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MSC-07629 

NATIONAL  AERONAUTICS  AND  SPACE  ADMINISTRATION 


APOLLO  17 

TECHNICAL  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


Pr^ared  by 
Test  Division 
Apollo  Spacecraft  Program  Office 


MANNED  SPACECRAFT  CENTER 

HOUSTON.TEXAS 
December  1972 


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INTRODUCTION 


This  dociunent  is  the  transcription  of  the  technical  air-to-ground 
(tag)  voice  conmninications  of  the  Apollo  17  mission.    The  transcript  is 
divided  into  three  coliimna  — time,  speaker,  and  text.    The  time  column 
consists  of  four  two-digit  pairs  for  days,  hours,  minutes,  and  seconds 
(e.g.,  oh  22  h3  12).    All  times  are  in  Apollo  elapsed  time  (AET),  which 
is  true  mission  elapsed  time.    The  speaker  column  indicates  the  source 
of  a  transmission;  the  text  column  contains  the  verbatim  transcript  of 
the  cotmnuni  cations . 

The  time  used  by  Mission  Control  Center  (MCC)  and  indicated  as 
ground-elapsed  time  (GET)  in  the  Flight  Plan  may  be  updated  to  both  the 
spacecraft  and  MCC  computers  but  will  not  be  updated  to  the  telemetry 
downlink  pulse-code-modulated  bitstream  or  other  time- recording  devices. 
This  GET  updating  will  be  performed  only  to  correct  significant  changes 
in  the  Fli^t  Plan  time  occurring  as  the  result  of  delayed  lift-off, 
midcourse  corrections,  or  spacecraft  burn-time  differences  (trajectory 
dispersions) . 

Should  these  updates  occur,  the  Apollo  elapsed  time  (the  true 
mission-elapsed  time)  used  in  this  transcript  may  not  agree  with  Flight 
Plan  and  MCC  times.    Users  of  this  transcript  are  cautioned  to  apply  the 
appropriate  time  corrections  for  the  updated  periods. 

Communications  recorded  from  the  primary  coomiuni cations  network 
(GOSS  net  l)  comprise  the  biilk  of  this  transcript.    During  periods  when 
the  lunar  module  (U4)  and  command  modiile  (CM)  are  physically  sepeirated, 
it  is  occasionally  req\d.red  that  communications  with  both  spacecraft  be 
available  simultaneously.    To  accomplish  this,  another  communications 
network  (GOSS  net  2)  is  activated.    At  such  times,  this  transcript  will 
include  the  simultaneous  but  separate  communications;  GOSS  net  1  communi- 
cations will  be  contained  on  tapes  with  the  suffixed  letter  A  (i.e. , 
Tape  88a);  GOSS  net  2,  with  B  (i.e..  Tape  88B) . 

_A  series  of  three  dots  (...)  is  used  to  designate  those  portions  of 
the  text  that  could  not  be  transcribed  because  of  garbling.    A  series  of 
three  asterisks  (***)  is  used  to  designate  those  portions  of  the  text 
that  could  not  be  transcribed  because  of  clipping  caused  by  the  voice- 
actuated  (vox)  mode.    One  dash  (-)  is  used  to  indicate  a  speaker's  pause 
or  a  self-interruption  and  subsequent  completion  of  a  thought.  Two 
dashes  (-  -)  axe  used  to  indicate  an  interruption  by  another  speaker  or 
the  point  at  which  a  recording  was  abxriptly  terminated.    Words  given 
unusual  emphasis  by  the  speaker  are  underlined. 


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The  Apollo  17  mission  was  flown  December  7  to  19,  1972;  lift-off 
occurred  at  05:33:00. 60  G.m.t.  (12:33:00. 60  a.m.,  e.s.t.)  on  December  7. 

Speakers  in  the  transcript  may  be  identified  as  follows. 
Spacecraft: 

CDB  Commander 

Canmand  module  pilot 
Lunax  module  pilot 
Unidentified  crewmember 
Multiple  speakers 


CMP 
LMP 

SC 
MS 

Mission  Control  Centers 
CC 
MCC 


Eugene  A.  Cernan 

Bonald  E.  Evctns 

Harrison  P.  (Jack)  Schmitt 


LCC 
F 

S 

Remote  sites: 
AB 
CT 

TIC 

P-1,  P-2,  etc. 
S-1,  S-2,  etc. 
R-1,  R-2,  etc. 


Capsule  commTjnicator  (CAP  COMM) 

Unidentified  speaker,  other  than 
CC,  in  the  Mission  Operations 
Control  Room  or  a  Staff  Support 

ROCM 

Launch  Control  Center 
Flight  director 
Surgeon 


Airboss  (Recovery  aircraft) 

Communications  technician 
(COMM  TECH) 

USS  Ticonderoga 

Photographic  helicopters 

Swim  teams 

Recovery  helicopters 


Ill 


When  the  CDR  and  LMP  are  in  the  undocked  lunar  modiile  or  on  the 
lunar  surface,  their  speaker  designations  will  he  STof fixed  hy  either  LM 
or  EVA.  to  indicate  their  status  (e.g.,  CDR-EVA  or  LMP-LM) .    Voice  calls 
dioring  this  mission  were  assigned  in  accordance  with  the  following 
station  operating  procedures:    "For  all  phases  when  only  the  CSM  is 
manned,  the  AS-512  call  sign  will  he  Apollo  17.    When  both  vehicles  are 
manned,  the  voice  csill  will  be  America  for  the  CSM  and  Challenger  for 
the  LM.    The  calls  for  the  CDR  and  LMP  during  lunar  surface  operations 
will  be  individual  crew's  first  names." 

Transcription  of  these  tapes  was  managed  by  James  L.  Gibbons, 
Test  Division,  Apollo  Spacecraft  Program  Office,  to  whom  inquiries  re- 
garding this  document  should  be  referred. 


ACRONYM  LIST 


Because  specialized  readers  of  the  Apollo  17  transcription,  such 
as  the  principal  investigators ,  may  not  be  thoroTighly  familiar  with 
the  acronyms  used  during  the  mission,  the  decision  was  made  to  define 
those  acronyms  that  probably  will  be  encountered.    For  obvious  reasons, 
no  effort  was  made  to  include  every  acronym  that  conceivably  could  be 
used;  only  those  acronyms  that  are  considered  likely  to  be  used  are 
included  here. 

AEA  Abort  electronics  asseiibly 

AGS  Abort  guidance  system 

ALSD  Apollo  lunax-surface  drill 

ALSE  Apollo  lunar  soimder  experiment 

ALSEP  Apollo  lunar-surfau;e  experiments  package 

AOS  Acquisition  of  signal  (or  of  site) 

AOT  Alinement  optical  telescope 

AP  Alpha  particle  (spectrometer) 

APS  Auxiliary  proptolsion  system  (S-IVB)  or  ascent  propulsion 

system  (LM) 

ARIA  Apollo  range  instrumentation  aircraft 

AES  Atmosphere  revitalization  system 


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AfTlrt  II 

AiLA 

Attitude/translation  control  assembly 

BEF 

Blunt  end  forwsurd 

OPiAKi 

Booy-mounted  attitude  gyro 

Buddy  secondary  life-support  system 

Biomedical  urine  sampling  system 

CM 

Command  module 

nun 

Command  module  computer 

CO  AS 

Crev  optical  alinement  sight 

/TO 

CP 

Control  point 

CRD 

Cosmic  ray  detector  (experiment) 

CSC 

Close-up  stereo  camera  or  contingency  sample  collection 

now 

Command  and  service  module 

C¥EA 

Caution  and  warning  electronics  assembly 

DAC 

Data  acquisition  camera 

DAP 

Digital  autopilot 

DEDA 

Data  entry  and  display  assembly 

Digital  event  timer 

DUX 

Descent  orbit  insertion 

Descent  propulsion  system 

DSE 

Data  storage  equipment  (CM) 

DSEA 

Data  storage  equipment  assembly  (LM) 

DSKY 

Display  and  keyboard 

ECS 

Environmental  control  system 

EI 

Entry  interface 

Entry  monitor  system 
Extravehicular  mobility  unit 
Electrical  power  system 
Equipment  transfer  "bag 
Extravehicular  activity 
Extravehicular  transfer 
Fligjit  director  attitude  indicator 
Fli^t  Dynamics  Officer 
Far-ultraviolet  spectrometer 
Guidance  and  control 
Ground-commanded  television  assembly 
Gyro  display  coupler 
Guidance  Dynamics  Officer 
Ground-elapsed  time 
Ground-elapsed  time  of  ignition 
Hi^-galn  antenna 
Heat  flow  experiment 
Inertial  measiorement  unit 
Initial  point 

Integrated  position  indicator 
Interim  stowage  assembly 
Infrared  scanning  radiometer 
Instrument  imit 

Lunar  atmospheric  composition  experiment 


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LCG 

Liquid-cooled  garment 

LCRU 

L\mar  conmiunl  cations  relay  unit 

LEAM 

Lunar  electa  and  meteorite  (experiment) 

LEB 

Lower  equipment  bay 

LEG 

Lunar  equipment  conveyor 

LEVA 

L\inar  extravehicular  visor  assembly 

LGC 

Lvuaar  module  guidance  computer 

LM 

Lunar  module 

LNP 

Lunar  neutron  prote  (experiment) 

LOI 

Lunar  orljit  insertion 

LOPC 

Lunar  orbit  plane  change 

LOS 

Loss  of  signal  (or  of  site) 

LED 

Landing  point  designator 

LEV 

Lunar  roving  vehicle 

LSG 

Lunar  surface  gravimeter 

LSPE 

Lunar  seismic  profiling  experiment 

LTG 

Lunar  traverse  gravimeter  (experiment) 

MCC 

Mission  Control  Center  or  midcourse  correction 

MESA 

Modular  equipment  stowage  assembly 

MET 

Mission  event  timer 

MPVC 

Manueil  thriast  vector  control 

OPS 

Oxygen  purge  system 

ORDEAL 

Orbital  rate  display  earth  and  lunar 

PDI 

Powered  descent  Initiation 

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DO  A 

rUA 

PressTire  §8X1116111;  assenibly 

Fcaics 

Primary  guidance «  navigation,  and  control  system  (CM) 

PONS 

Primary  guidance  and  navigation  system  ^LMJ 

PI 

Principal  investigator 

PIPA 

Pulsed  integrating  pendulous  accelerometer 

PLSS 

Portable  life-support  system 

PRD 

Personal  radiation  dosimeter 

1  Mil 

PTC 

Passive  thermal  control 

RCS 

Reaction  control  system 

ECU 

Remote  control  unit 

REFSMMAT 

Reference  to  stable  member  matrix 

RLS 

Radius  of  landing  site 

FTG 

Radioisotopic  thermoelectric  generator 

SBT 

S-band  transponder 

SCE 

Signal-conditioning  equipment 

SCS 

Stabilization  control  system 

SECS 

SeqTiential  events  control  system 

SEP 

Sharp  end  forward 

SEP 

Surface  electric  properties  (experiment) 

Scientific  equipment  bay 

SIM 

Scientific  instrument  module 

SLA 

SM/LM  adapter 

SM 

Service  module 

SME 

Soil  mechanics  experiment 

SPS 

Service  propulsion  system 

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SRC 

Sample  retiorn  container 

TEC 

Trans earth  coast 

TEI 

Trsinsearth  injection 

ephem 

Time  of  ephemeris 

T. 

ig 

Time  of  ignition 

TLC 

Translunar  coast 

TLI 

Trans limsir  injection 

TPI 

Tenninal  phase  initiation 

TSB 

Tenrporary  stowage  hag 

TVC 

Thrust  vector  control 

UHF 

Ultrahigh  frequency- 

VHF 

Very  high  frequency 

APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


PREFLIFT-OFF  COMMUNICATIONS 


Tape  2/1 

APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

00  00  00  03    CDR  Roger.    The  clock  has  started.    We  have  yaw. 

00  00  00  12    CDR  Roger;  tower.    Yaw's  complete.    We're  into  roll.  Bob. 

00  00  00  17    CO  Roger,  Geno.    Looking  great.    Thrust  good  on  all 

five  engines. 

CDR  Okay,  hahe-    It's  looking  good  here. 

00  00  00  21    CDR  Roll  is  complete.    We  are  pitching. 

SC  Wow  woozle I 

LMP  Thirty  seconds.    We're  going  up.    Man,  oh,  man  I 

00  00  00  36    CDR  Thirty  seconds,  and  17  is  GO. 

00  00  00  38    CC  Roger,  17.    You're  GO. 

CC  17,  stand  "by  for  Mode  I  Bravo  - 

00  00  01  01    CC  MARK.    Mode  I  Bravo. 

00  00  01  ok    CDR  Roger.     I  Bravo;  we're  GO  at  1  minute. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    You're  looking  great.    Right  on  the 

line. 

00  00  01  11    CC  17»  you  are  feet  wet  -  feet  wet. 

00  00  01  13    CDR  Roger.    Feet  wet. 

00  00  01  3h    CDR  01:30,  and  we  are  GO,  Bob. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    You're  looking  great. 

CC  Stand  by  for  Mode  I  Charlie,  17- 

00  00  01  59    CC  Mark.    Mode  I  Charlie. 

00  00  02  00    CDR  Roger.     I  Charlie;  2  minutes  and  EDS  is  OFF  and 

we  are  GO. 


cc 

IMP 


CC 


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00  00  02  06    CC  Roger,  IT;  you're  GO.    IT,  you  are  GO  for  staging. 

CDR  Roger.    We're  GO  here. 

00  00  02  22    CDR  Inboard  cut-off. 

00  00  02  23    CC  Roger.  Inboard. 

00  00  02  k9    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I  guess  ve  got  all  five. 

Roger.    They're  looking  here  -  looking  good. 

Sure  felt  like  it.    I  think  we  sav  them  all  from 
here. 

Roger,  Jack.    And  the  thrust  is  GO  on  all  five  of 
them.    They're  running  good. 

00  00  03  02    CDR  Okay;  3  minutes  ajid  we're  GO. 

CC  Roger,  IT. 

00  00  03  15    SC  Say,  we  Just  had  skirt  sep. 

00  00  03  18    CC  Roger.    ¥e  confirm  skirt  sep. 

00  00  03  21    CDR  There  goes  the  tower.     Oh,  there  she  goes! 

00  00  03  2k    CC  Roger.    The  tower;  you're  Mode  II. 

00  00  03  26    CDR  Roger.    Mode  II. 

00  00  03  3T    CC  The  steering  has  converged.    The  CMC  is  GO.  You're 

going  right  down  the  pike,  IT. 

00  00  03  39    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I  Just  confirmed  guidance.     Okay,  Bob. 

I  got  the  ELS  SEP  circuit  breakers.    And  we've 
seen  it  all:     ignition,  staging,  and  tower. 


CC 


Roger.     Got  you. 


00  00  Ok  03    CDR  Okay;  k  minutes  and  we're  GO  here.  Bob. 

00  00  01.06    CC  Roger,  Gene.    We ' re  going  round  the  room.  Looks 

GO  here.  You're  looking  real  good.  Gene.  Right 
down  the  line. 


Tape  2/3 


00  00  OU  29    CDR  Okay;  Ok:  30  and  we're  still  GO  cm  "board. 

CC  Roger,  17.    You're  GO. 

CDR  Let  me  tell  you,  this  night  latinch  is  something 

to  "behold. 

00  00  05  Oh    CC  Five  minutes,  Geno,  and  you're  GO  down  here. 

You're  looking  great. 

CDR  Okay,  Ro'bert.    We're  GO  here  at  5. 

00  00  05  26    CC  17,  Houston.    Yovtr  times  are  nomin  al.     Level  sense 

arm  at  8  plus  36;  S-II  shutdown  at  9  plus  20. 
Noninal  times. 

CDR  8  plus  36  and  9  plus  20.  Roger. 

CC  Stand  hy  for  S-I"VB  to  COI  capability. 

00  00  06  00    CC  MARK.    S-IVB  to  COI  capability. 

00  00  06  02    CDR  Roger.    S-I"VB  to  COI.    We're  GO  at  6. 

CC  Roger,  Geno. 

00  00  06  22    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We're  got  four  good  motors  and  we're 

GO  at  06:20. 

CC  Roger.    And,  17,  we  copied  the  gimbals  and  watched 

them  and  they  looked  good. 

CC  Stand  by  for  S-IVB  to  orbit  capability. 

00  00  06  51    CC  MARK.    S-IVB  to  orbit  capability.    And  we'd  like 

OMNI  Delta,  Jack. 

00  00  06  58    LMP  Roger.    You've  got  it. 

CC  Roger. 

00  00  07  08    CDR  Seven  minutes.  Bob.    We're  looking  good  on  board. 

CC  Roger. 

00  00  07  hi    CDR  We  have  inboard  cut-off. 


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CC 

Roger,  Gene.    Inboard  on  time. 

00 

00 

08  03 

CDR 

Eight  minutes,  and  we  are  GO. 

CC 

Roger,  17.    You're  looking  great. 

00 

00 

08  22 

CC 

17,  Houston.     You  are  GO  for  staging. 

00 

00 

08  28 

CDR 

Thank  you.  Boh.    We  are  GO  for  staging  up  here. 

00 

00 

08  h2 

CC 

You  have  level  sense  arm  this  time.  Gene. 

SC 

Roger,  Boh.    Level  sense  arm. 

00 

00 

09.  02 

CDR 

Nine  minutes.  Bob,  and  17  is  GO. 

00 

00 

09  07 

CC 

Roger,  17.    You're  GO  here. 

00 

00 

09  18 

CC 

Stand  by  for  Mode  IV  capability. 

00 

00 

09  22 

CDR 

S-II  cut-off. 

00 

00 

09  23 

CC 

MARK.    Mode  IV  capability,  and  we  copy  cut-off. 

00 

00 

09  25 

CDR 

Roaer.    Mode  IV.    And  we  do  have  S— TVB  i unit ion 

00 

00 

09  30 

CC 

Roger.    We  see  it,  and  the  thrust  is  looking  good 

on  it. 

CDR 

We  saw  that  one,  too.  Bob. 

CC 

Roger. 

00 

00 

09  57 

CC 

17,  the  steering  has  converged  and  the  CMC  is  GO. 

You're  looking  great. 

CDR 

Roger.     The  CMC  is  GO,  10  minutes,  and  17  is  GO 

on  board. 

00 

00 

10  08 

CC 

17;  Houston.    You  are  GO  for  orbit  -  GO  for  orbit, 

00 

00 

10  11 

CDR 

Those  are  kind  words,  Robert.    We're  GO  for  orbit 

here. 

CC  Good  show.  Gene. 


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00  00  10  33    CDR  Okay.     10:30,  we're  GO. 

CC  Roger,  17.    You  look  great. 

00  00  11  05    CDR  Eleven  minutes  and  we  are  GO. 

00  00  11  08    CC  Roger,  Gene.    And  cut-off  will  te  at  11  plus  1+7, 

11  pliis  k-J. 

CDR  11  plus  1*7.  Roger. 

00  00  11  32    CDR  Okay.     11:30  and  we're  GO  here.     And  -  Standing  by. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    Cut-off  time  is  still  holding  good, 

11  plus  U7. 

00  00  11  h2    CDR  Okay.    Cut-off  at  h2, 

CC  Understand.     Cut-off  at  k2.     Roger.    We  copy. 

00  00  12  03    CDR  We're  looking  at  93.1  by  89.5. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    We're  copying  the  DSKY, 

SC  Okay,  Jack.  Give   

00  00  12  2k    CC  And  the  local  horizontal  maneuver  has  initiated. 

Gene. 

00  00  12  50    CDR  And,  Houston,  the  -  looks  like  the  -  tank  pres- 

sures are  venting. 

00  00  12  57    CC  Roger,  Gene.     The  range  safety  is  safe  and  we  - 

you  are  in  a  GO  orbit,  nominal. 

CDR  Roger.     GO  orbit,  nominal.     Thank  you. 

CC  And,  17,  I'll  be  unable  to  update  that  AOS  time, 

but  52:20  is  looking  good. 

CDR  Roger. 

00  00  lU  10    LMP  Houston,  can  you  confirm  -  MAIN  BUS  TIE  A/C,  OFF? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that.  Jack. 


Tape  2/6 


00  00  lU  18    LMP  I've  been  carrying  very  low  amps  on  the  EAT  BUS, 

and  I  did  not  see  a  drop.    I'm  carrying  about 
2  amps  now.    Volts  are  3  -  30.5, 

CC  Jack,  go  ahead  and  take  the  B/C  motor  switch  OFF. 

00  00  Ih  1+8    LMP  Okay,     It's  OFF.     And  I  confirm  that  one. 

CC  And  we  think  it's  the  EDS  POWER  switch  and  the 

fuel  cell  —  switch  that  are  drawing  the  current 
that  you're  seeing  there. 

LMP  Okay.    That  could  well  be. 


CC  Okay,  Jack,  we're  going  to  lose  you  in  about 

1  minute  off  of  Vanguard  here  and  see  you  at  52:20. 

IMP  Roger;  we're  pressing  and  thanks.  Bob. 

00  00  15  11    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    Everything  is  looking  GO  on  board. 

Everything's  stable.    We  can  see  the  APS  firing, 
and  our  altitudes  look  good. 


CC 

CDR 
CC 


Geno,  everything  is  in  good  shape  down  here.  The 
booster's  in  good  shape;  you're  looking  good;  and 
their  AOS  time  is  52:20  as  I 'gave  you. 

We  got  that,  babe.    We'll  see  you  coming  around. 

Good  show,  babe.    A  little  late  but  a  good  show. 


CDR  Outstanding  ride. 

00  00  16  26    CC  17,  Houston.     We're  hanging  with  you  here.  Looks 

like  you're  hanging  in  Vanguard  a  little  longer 
than  we  expected. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  3/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTIOIT 


CAEMRVON  (REV  l) 


00  00  52  20    LMP  Hello,  Houston;  how  do  you  read  17? 

CC  IT,  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

IMP  Hey,  we're  going  real  well  up  here.  Bob.     Have  no 

significant  anomalies  as  yet;  and  we've  just  about 
completed  our  part  of  the  insertion  checklist . 
Gene  has  his  SCS  check  yet,  and  Ron's  got  some 
P52  numbers  for  you.    And  the  only  thing  I've  seen 
so  far  is  a  -  some  spurious  MASTER  ALARM  without 
caution  and  warning  that  seem  to  be  associated 
with  moving  switches  on  panel  2. 

CC  Okay.    Can  you  get  a  sudden  -  what  switches  any- 

where -  any  , . .  any  switches  on? 

LMP  So  far,  it's  been  fairly  random.     Some  that  I  re- 

member is  the  SECONDARY  COOLANT  LOOP  EVAP  switch, 
the  LAMP  TEST  switch,  -  see  -  I  think  I  got  one 
with  the  TEMP  IN  AUTO  switch.     Gene  got  one  doing 
something.     I  can't  remember  exactly  what  it  was. 

CC  Okay   

LMP  Probably  random. 

CC  _  _  we  copy.    Jack,  we're  standing  by  for  that  P52 

data.    We've  only  got  about  a  U-minute  -  a  5-minute 
pass  here.    We'll  take  the  52  data,  and  I  got  a 
few  updates  for  you. 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP  Okay;  52  data  is  coming.     NOUN  71  is  2h  and  30; 

NOUN  05  is  .01;  NOUN  93s  are  plus  .080,  plus  .029, 
plus  .018;  and  we  torqued  at  35:25. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.     Okay,  while  we're  filling  in 

some  here,  you  might  want  to  know  this.  Jack.  Your 
sunset  and  sunrise  times  in  the  Launch  Checklist 


are  all  off  by  8  -  approximately  8  minutes  and 
30  seconds.     That  every  -  sunset  and  sunrise  will 
occur  about  8  minutes  and  30  seconds  sooner  than 
in  the  -  in  the  Launch  Checklist.     That's  an  ap- 
proximate nvmher. 

Okay,  we  got  you. 

Okay.    And  on  page  2-17  of  the  Laimch  Checklist, 
you're  going  to  want  to  delete  all  reference  to 
Honeysuckle  AOS  and  LOS  and  delete  all  reference 
to  Canaries  AOS  and  LOS. 

Wilco . 

And  we  want  to  add  an  Ascension  pass;  AOS  at  Ascen- 
sion, 01  plus  5^+  plus  00,  and  Ascension  LOS  will 
be  02:00:16. 

Okay,  Bob;  you're  going  to  have  to  repeat  that. 

Okay,  stand  by.  Let  me  give  you  a  page.  On 
2-lT  -  let's  go  Hawaii  AOS  first  of  all.  On 
Hawaii  AOS,  on  page  2-17.  AOS   

Go. 

  is  01  plus  17  plus  2k.    Hawaii  LOS,  01  plus  22 

plus  h9. 

Roger.    Now  what  about  the  Ascension? 

Okay,  here  -  give  you  the  Ascension  again  now. 
AOS,  01  plus  5^  plus  00.    Ascension  LOS  will  be 
02 : 00 : 16 .     Over . 

Okay,  I  got  those.    Hawaii  is  01  plus  17  plus  2k, 
and  LOS  is  01  plus  22  plus  k9.    And  Ascension  is 
AOS,  01  plus  5^:00;  and  LOS,  02  plus  00:l6. 

Roger,  Jack.    Good  copy.    And  booster's  looking 
good  down  here  and  you're  looking  good. 

Okay,  and  I'll  do  a  better  job  of  itemizing  those 
switches.    We  were  pressing  pretty  hard,  and  I'll  - 
I'll  be  able  to  go  back  and  get  most  of  them,  I 
think.    And  we'll  keep  an  eye  on  it  -  on  the 
MASTER  ALARMS. 


Tape  3/3 


CC  Roger,  Jack.    We  understand.     And  I  think  we  copied 

most  of  what  you  said  there,  and  we're  working  on 
it. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob;  other  than  that  MASTER  ALARM,  all  is 

well  on  America,  and  I  imderstand  the  booster  is 
looking  good  to  you. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  And,  Bob,  let  me  add  that  not  -  we  did  get  spurious 

MASTER  ALARMS  without  switch  movement,  but  many 
came  with  switch  movements.    We've  had  about  seven. 

CC  Okay;  understand. 

LMP  That  was  only  after  insertion. 

CC  Seven  times  that  your  heart  doesn't  need,  huh? 

UiP  Oh,  we  were  paying  attention  to  a  sunset  that  was 

the  biggest  -  - 

CDR  Sianrise. 

IMP  -  -  or  sunrise  or  something  that  we  saw.    It  was 

the  biggest  rainbow  I'd  ever  seen. 

CC  Beautiful.    We  can't  wait  to  hear  what  you  had  to 

say  about  that  -  the  ignition  on  the  S-II.  It 
soTinded  pretty  spectacular. 

LMP  Bob,  Just  let  it  be  said  that  that  was  quite  a 

booster  ride.    When  we  get  a  chance  a  little 
later  -  - 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  -  -  maybe  we'll  be  able  to  tell  you  something. 

CC  We're  about  ready  to  lose  comm  here.    You're  look- 

ing great,  guys,  and  we'll  pick  you  up  in  Hawaii 
here  shortly. 

CDR  Okay,  we're  looking  at  the  deserts  of  Australia 

right  now  and,  again,  everything's  good  on  board. 


Tape  3/ It 

CC 

00  00  58  2k  mp 

00  01  17  25  IMP 
CC 
LMP 

CC 
IMP 

CC 

IMP 

CC 

LfVEP 

CC 
LMP 


Roger.  Pick  you  up  at  01:1T:2U. 
Roger . 


STDN  (REV  1/2) 


Hello,  earthlings .    We're  back  with  you. 

Roger,  Jack,    Read  you  loud  and  clear;  how  us? 

You're  loud  and  clear.    And  no  change  systems- 
wise  that  I've  seen. 

Roger,  Jack.    Any  more  MASTER  ALAEMs? 

We  had  one  when  Ron's  -  looked  like  his  neck  ring 
hit  panel  2.  ... 

Okay.    Sounds  like  we  had  something  loose  in 
panel  2 ,  huh? 

Yes.     I  don't  know  -  It  may  be  annoying,  but  so 
far  it  doesn't  seem  to  be  a  problem. 

Roger.    Just  for  your  information,  everything  is 
looking  outstanding  and  no  problems.    We're  taking 
a  good  look  at  the  data  here  at  Hawaii,  and  we'll 
make  a  GO/NO  GO  decision  about  60  seconds  after 
acq.uisition  at  Goldstone.     But  there's  nothing 
right  now  to  lead  us  to  believe  that  zero  oppor- 
tunity will  be  required. 

Okay ,  Bob ,  understand  that .    We  are  prepared ,  how- 
ever .     Spacecraft ,  other  than  those  MASTER  ALARMs , 
is  looking  very  good.    We  got  the  docking  probe 
extended.    The  SCS  reference  attitude  check  is 
complete . 

Roger . 

Hey,  Bob,  I  Just  remembered  smother  switch  that  I 
think  gave  us  a  MASTER  ALARM  was  HO  QUABTITY 
INDICATOR. 


Tape  3/5 


CC  Roger.     Copy  that,  Jack,     H^O  QUANTITY  INDICATOR. 

CC  Roger  -  ITj  we're  going  to  lose  you  in  about 

30  seconds.     But  when  you  get  over  the  stateside 
here,  we're  going  to  take  -  take  the  d-ump  on  the 
data,  and  we'll  read  it  out  real  carefully  so  when 
you  get  in  TLC  we  ought  to  he  able  to  see  where 
that  MASTER  ALARM  glitch  is  coming  in  to. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     And  -  yell  at  me  if  you  want  anything 

done  on  the  coram  with  this  change  in  AOS  LOS  stuff. 

CC  Negative  on  that  right  now.     We'll  see  you  at 

01:28:59  through  Goldstone. 

CDR  Okay,  01:28:59,  Bob.    We'll  be  there. 

00  01  22  1+8    CC  Roger,  Gene. 

GOLDSTOKE  (REV  2) 

00  01  28  00    CC  17,  Houston.    We're  back  with  you. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We're  still  same  as  before  and  ready 

when  you  are  for  TLI . 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  I  can  see  the  lights  of  southern  California,  Bob. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

IMP  We're  going  to  be  going  a  little  bit  south  of  that 

area. 

CC  Right .     Your  ground  track  looks  like  it ' s  taking 

you  right  up  over  the  mid  part  of  Baja  California. 

LMP  Yes,  sir;  I'll  believe  that.     I'll  bet  you  I  can 

see  Ensenada  right  now, 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Bob,  I  expect  he'll  probably  be  able  to  see  the 

lights  of  Silver  City,  too. 


Well,  I'm  svire  going  to  be  looking  for  them,  I'll 
tell  you. 

Jack,  Just  for  your  information,  you'll  probably  - 
when  you  come  up  a  little  farther  in  this  orbit 
here  and  get  over  Mexico,  you  should  be  able  to 
see  all  that  bad  weather  that  was  giving  us  so 
much  worry  and  had  Tindall  and  New  Orleans  and 
everything  all  messed  up  this  morning  when  I  went 
through  there.    They  had  a  pretty  bad  line  of 
weather  along  there. 

I  assume  it  wasn't  too  bad.     I  think  you  made  it, 
didn't  you? 

Oh,  yeah,  I  made  it,  but  I  had  to  -  you  know,  I 
had  to  work  at  it.    But  it's  a  -  we  were  -  I  was 
worried  about  it  getting  down  as  towards  MILA  there 
after  -  you  know  if  we  had  to  scrub  and  go  tomorrow 
night.     Boy,  I'm  sure  glad  we  got  you  off  tonight. 

Guess  who  else  is. 

No,  I  can't  -  I  wouldn't  believe  that. 

Parker  can't  make  it  back.     He's  got  to  come  back 
on  the  ...    So  you  might  have  to  have  Young  on  for 
a  while  after  we  do  a  TLI . 

Hey,  you  Just  wouldn't  believe.  Bob,  the  light  you 
can  see  in  the  west  right  now.     It  must  be  abso- 
lutely clear. 

Roger,  Jack.    Sounds  spectacular.    Jack,  people  in 
the  room  here  want  to  know  if  you've  been  down  your 
checklist  yet? 

Oh,  we  got  that  out  of  the  way  in  about  5  minutes. 
Have  we  missed  something? 

There's  a  different  checklist  here  we're  talking 
about . 

(Laughter)  If  you're  talking  about  the  Flight  Plan, 
yes . 


Roger . 


Tape  3/7 


CMP  What  a  waste  . 

LMP  If  I'm  not  mistaken,  we  must  be  Just  south  of 

Arizona  now.     Is  that  right.  Bob? 

CC  That  looks  real  good.    Yes,  you're  over  Mexico 

there,  and  looks  like  you're  -  oh  -  maybe  a 
hundred  miles  south  of  the  border  there, 

LMP  Okay.     I  was  pretty  sure  I  was  looking  up  in  the 

Phoenix-Tucson  complex  there. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

IMP  Clear  night. 

CC  Little  better  than  . . .  Florida. 

LMP  The  west  is  always  that  way.     I  wish  it  was  day- 

light so  we  could  see  Sonora  and  that  country. 
That's  spectacular,  I'll  bet  you. 

CC  Roger. 

IMP  Man's  field  of  stars  on  the  Earth  is  competing  with 

the  heavens ,  Bob . 

CDR  Bob,  you're  coming  through  with  a  large  squeal 

right  now  in  the  background. 

CC  Understand  . . . 

LMP  Okay,  I  think  we  got  the  Gulf  Coast  showing  up  now 

by  the  band  of  lights ,  Bob . 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    Assume  the  booster  is  still  looking 

good,  and  we'll  be  GO  for  a  nominal  TLI . 

CC  That ' s  affirmative . 

LMP  Okay. 

CDR  And  you're  still  coming  up  with  a  loud  squeal. 

CC  Roger .  ... 


Tape  3/8 


CC  17,  how  do  you  read? 


CDR 


CDR 

CC 
CDR 

CC 


IMP 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CC 


Ko,  Bob,  you  still  got  the  loud  squeal. 


IMP  Would  you  believe  we're  just  south  of  Houston 

now.  Bob? 

00  01  35  17    CC  17,  are  you  receiving  Houston  now? 


All  right.  Bob.    You  came  up  unreadable  with  the 
squeal  that  time. 

Am  I  still  squealing?    This  is  Houston. 

That's  affirm.    You're  very  loud,  almost  xmreadable 
with  the  squeal.    Bob,  why  don't  you  give  us  the 
short  count? 

Geno,  don't  change  anything.    We  think  it's  a 
ground  site  situation  here,  and  Just  stand  by. 


CDR  I  believe  it's  in  the  VHF,  Bob. 


Okay,  Bob.     I'm  not  sure  exactly  where  we  are,  but 
I'm  looking  out  -  to  an  awful  lot  of  horiz  -  lights 
on  the  horizon  out  there  at  12  o'clock,  and  an 
awful  lot  of  lightning  in  the  clouds  out  there. 

Roger.    I  -  we  show  you  just  about  over  the  middle 
of  the  Gulf.    Looking  ahead,  you're  probably  seeing 
the  very  southern  tip  of  Florida  there. 

It  looks  like  almost  the  entire  Florida  peninsula 
has  got  lights  -  got  lightning  on  it  somewhere. 

Roger.    How  does  my  coram  sound  to  you  now.  Gene? 


CDR  Okay,  give  us  a  quick  short  count. 


Roger.  Short  count  follows:  5,  k,  3,  2,  1,  1,  2 
3 ,  ^ ,  5 ;  short  count  out . 


CDR  Bob,  you're  all  right  now. 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  3/9 


CDR  And  can  you  give  us  a  feel  for  what  the  final 

weather  was  at  the  Cape  -  at  laiinch? 

CC  Yes.    Let  me  get  that  for  you.    The  reason  why  we 

had  that  problem  on  the  comm  is  we  just  handed 
over  from  Texas  to  MILA,  and  we're  -  and  you're 
going  through  MILA  now.     And  it's  great.     So  we 
have  a  little  problem  with  our  Texas  site. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  The  television  coverage  had  you  all  the  way  through 

staging  very  well  on  -  and  the  S-II  ignition. 
Then,  you  went  right  behind  a  cloud  for  a  while, 
but  they  were  tracking  you  pretty  well . 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  They  also  -  cut  in  for  about  a  half  minute  or  so 

and  showed  a  view  of  the  crowd  in  Just  the  avail- 
able light  from  the  booster,  and  it  stood  out 
pretty  well. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.    We're  going  right  over  Florida  now, 

looking  down  at  Miami.  A  beautiful  view  of  the 
Keys  all  lit  up,  and  I  just  saw  a  shooting  star 
right  over  Miami . 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  That's  a  very,  very  fine  view  of  Miami.     Hard  to 

believe. 

CC  I'll  bet  they  sat  there  and  watched  you  go. 

00  01  38  hk    LMP  Looks  like  we're  right  over  the  Bahamas  now.  Bob. 

CC  Roger.     I'll  buy  that. 

LMP  Well,  I'm  not  easily  impressed.  Bob.     But  I'm  cer- 

tainly impressed  by  this  one. 

CC  Roger.    What's  the  CMP  doing?    We  haven't  heard 

much  from  him.     Is  -  is  he  at  the  other  window? 


CMP 


He's  crawling  around  looking  for  things  down  in 
the  LEB. 


Tape  3/10 


CC 


CC 


CC 


(LaTighter)  Okay.  They  won't  let  you  have  a  window 
tonight,  huh,  Ron? 


CMP  No,  I'll  catch  one  here  pretty  quick. 

CC  Just  a  reminder,  if  you  haven't  already  done  it. 

There  is  no  need  to  unstow  the  TV,  because  due  to 
this  late  lamch,  there's  just  no  site  available. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We're  not  going  to  unstow  it. 

LMP  Bob,  I  don't  -  I  guess  there's  no  site  available 

for  some  time,  is  that  correct? 


That's  affirmative.    And  if  I  can  piill  one  of  you 
guys  away  from  a  window,  I've  got  a  TLI  plus  90 
pad. 


HAP  Oh,  I'd  love  to  copy  that.    Just  a  minute. 

00  01  kl  29    LMP  Hello,  Houston;  Apollo  17.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  17,  Houston.    Go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay.    Lost  you  there  for  a  minute.     We  had  good 

signal  strength  all  through  that,  so  I  figured  it 
was  your  problem. 


Roger.  We're  Just  waiting  here  -  You  ready  for 
the  pad? 


IMP  We  were  calling  you,  and  you  missed  us.    So  you 

might  think  about  that.    Ready  for  the  pad. 

CC  Okay.    It's  a  TLI  plus  90,  SPS/G&N;  66953; 

minus  0.59,  plus  1.88;  ignit  ion  time,  OOU ;U0 :01 .US; 
minus  0351.8,  minus  0000.1,  plus  3378.2;  roll  is 
180,  073,  003;  HOUN  9^+  [sic]  is  -        is  not  appli- 
cable. Hp  is  plus  0020.1;  3396.1+ ,  U:50,  3380.8; 

sextant  star  is  number  11,  that's  11,  3k2.k,  32.3. 
Stand  by.    17,  Houston;  are  you  still  reading  me? 

IMP  Hey,  Houston,  if  you  read,  we're  reading  you.  Got 

you  all  the  way  through  the  trunnion  on  sextant 
star. 


Tape  3/11 


CC  Okay,  we'll  have  to  wait  and  pick  you  up  at  Ascen- 

sion.    We  ^ust  had  a  keyhole  pass  at  Bermuda,  and 
a  little  hit  of  a  pass  at  Vanguard, 

00  01  U3  51    IMP  Okay,  I'll  wait  for  you  to  finish  that,  and  on  the 

re  adh  ack ,    Okay . 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Stand  by.    We've  got  Vanguard, 

I  can  continue  on  with  -  after  trunnion,  the  bore- 
sight  Star  is  not  applicable.  Jack.     KOUIT  6l , 
plus  13.29,  minus  032,00;  1099-2,  3U90I+;  GET  of 
.050,  02l+:38:09.    Want  to  read  back  that  much  of 
the  pad.  Jack? 

LMP  Okay,  Bob,    It's  TLI  plus  90  pad,  SPS/G&K;  66953; 

minus  0.59,  plus  1.88;  OOUrUO: 01.^8;  minus  0351.8, 
minus  four  zeros  1,  plus  3378.2;  I80,  073,  003; 
is  NA;  plus  0020.1;  3396. li,  k:5^,  3380.3;  11, 

3^2. h  32.3.     Boresight  is  NA;  plus  13-29, 
minus  032.00;  1099-2,  3U90U;  02l+:38:09.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Good  readback  except  burn  time  is 

U:50  and  not  ki'^k.     And  we'll  be  losing  you  here 
in  about  a  minute,  so  wait  on  the  rest  of  that 
pad.     Just  a  reminder  for  Ron,  we'll  be  standing 
by  at  Ascension  for  the  next  gyro  torg,uing  and  - 
we,  might  have  a  drift  update  on  the  -  IMU  there, 

US'  Okay,  he  copied  that.    And  we'll  wait  for  the  rest 

of  the  pad. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Burn  time  was  U:50  -  I  think  that  was  when  you 

started  to  cut  out . 

CC  Roger . 

00  01  he  11    CC  17,  this  is  Houston  through  ARIA.     How  do  you  read? 

Over. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 

00  01  li8  53    CO  IT  Houston  through  ARIA.    Hov  do  you  read? 

CC  IT,  Ho\iston.    How  do  you  read  through.  ARIA? 

00  01  5U  OT    CC  IT,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Roger.    You're  back  with  us.     1*11  finish  up  that 

TLI  plus  90  pad  so  we  can  talk  a  little  here  if 
you  want. 

MP  Go  ahead. 

00  01  5k  19     CC  Okay.     Set  stars  are  Siriuis  and  Rigel;  f'^j^jQjii  is 

3l8;  ikQ;  358.     There'll  be  no  ullage.     Okay.  Down 
at  the  bottom  of  the  pad  we've  got  the  P3T  for 
lift-off  plus  9.     GET  is  009:00;  DELTA-V^,  U89T; 

longitude,  minus  1T5;  GET  of  UOOK,  033: 1+9 .  Over. 

00  01  55  09    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     Zero  -  Sirius  and  Rigel;  3l8;  lU8;  358; 

no  ullage;  009:00;  U89T;  minus  1T5 ;  033:^19.  Over. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,    Good  readback. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.    We  had  -  as  usual  -  up  here  (laughter) 

a  spectacular  simrise,  and  Gene  wants  to  teilk  to  you. 

CDR  I  got  some  numbers  on  Ron's  P52  for  you.  Bob. 

CC  Okay;  standing  by  to  copy.     Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay.    NOUK  Tl  were  stars  22  and  2hi    HOUU  05  are 

all  balls;    NQUH  93s  are  all  minus.    They're  00.03T, 
OO.OOT,  and  00.021.    That's  minus  3T»  minus  OT,  and 
minus  21;  and  they  were  torqued  at  01:51:^0. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

LMP  Bob,  we're  over  -  what  might  be  -  intermediate  to 

low  strata  that  have  a  very  strong  crenulation 
pattern  -  pulling  out  some  geological,  terms  here. 
I  don't  think  I've  ever  seen  anything  like  it  - 
flying. 


Tape  k/2 


CC  Roger. 

LMP  Looks  like  about  a  north-south  lineation  with  a 

very  strong  crinkling,  roughly  east-west. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that;    that's  Interesting.    You  know, 

you're  just  directly  over  that  South  Atlantic  area. 
Your  -  you  -  your  path  Just  kind  of  kept  you  going 
right  between  the  -  Africa  and  South  America,  right 
dead  center  all  the  way. 

00  01  57  hk    CC  And,  17,  just  for  your  information,  we've  searched 

all  the  data  we  can,  and  we  cannot  find  anything 
wrong  with  the  spacecraft  or  the  booster  at  all. 
Bveiything  is  looking  real  fine,  and  the  only  prob- 
lem in  the  air  is  that  -  those  master  alarms  that 
you  have  reported  -  we're  not  able  to  tie  in  any- 
thing common  yet  to  suiy  of  those  things  either. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We  have  not  had  any  for  -  quite  some 

time,  I  think,  since  the  last  time  we  talked  to  you 
about  them. 

CC  Roger.    Understand.    We'll  probably  get  a  good  work- 

out on  that  after  TLI  and  try  and  track  it  down  one 
more . 

CDR  Okay.    But,  also,  we  have  not  really  been  doing  much 

switching  since  the  insertion  checklist  was  com- 
plete, either. 

CC  Roger.    Understand.    It's  got  you  glued  to  the  win- 

dows, I  guess,  huh? 


CDR 


CC 
LMP 


They  are  interesting;  I'll  say  that. 


LMP  Well,  I  certainly  am,  Bob,  and  -  again  there's  a 

big  -  a  fairly  continuous  intermediate  cloud  deck, 
I  think.    And  it  has  patterns  comparable  to  what 
I've  seen  on  pictures  of  ice  floes. 


Roger.  Understand, 

And  -  of  pack  ice;  I  should  say  pictures  of  pack  ice 
in  the  Antarctic, 


Tape  h/3 


00  01  59  00    CC  17,  Houston.    We've  got  two  questions  concerning 

the  MASTER  ALARMs.     One,  do  you  get  the  MASTER  ALARM 
on  the  LEB  also;  and,  two,  do  you  get  the  tone  with 
the  MASTER  ALARM? 

JM>  We  did  get  the  tones.    The  MASTER  ALARMs  were  on 

both  -  panel  1  and  panel  3.    I  can't  tell  you  about 
the  LEB  right  now.    Maybe  Ron  can. 

CMP  No,  I  didn't  pay  that  much  attention. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  And,  Bob,  there  was  something  interesting  I  wanted 

to  get  around  to  tell  you.    The  -  MISSION  TIMER 
down  in  the  LEB,  when  Ron  went  down  there  to  get 
things  squared  away,  was  about  15  seconds  or  so 
behind  all  the  other  clocks. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that. 

CDR  Okay;  and  we  reset  it  -  resynced  it  -  and  it's 

been  running  okay.    I  don't  know  whether  that's 
a  clue  to  ai^hing  or  not,  but  apparently  it  hap- 
pened either  during  launch  -  or  somewhere  before 
we  got  down  there  right  after  insertion. 

CC  Okay.    We're  going  to  lose  you  here  in  about 

9  seconds.    You  are  GO  and  looking  great,  and  we'll 
work  on  it.    And  if  you  get  another  MEV  [?],  will 
you  check  the  LEB  for  us? 

CDR  Yes,  sir;  sure  will  do.  Bob.     We'll  see  you. 

What's  our  next  AOS? 

CC  Stand  by.     It's  Carnarvon  at  02:25. 

CDR  Thank  you. 

00  02  25  18    CDR  I  see  you're  trying. 

CC  ITs  Houston.     How  are  you  doing? 


LMP 


Well,  we're  pretty  good.  You're  wavery  here  a 
little  bit  on  signal  strength. 


Tape  k/h 


CC  Okay.    We've  got  a  TLI  pad.  any  time  you're  ready 

to  copy  it.  Jack, 

MP  Goodness;  okay,  let  me  get  rid  of  something  here. 

Ron,  I'm  putting  that  right  underneath  you. 

CC  And,  guys,  we'd  like  POO  and  ACCEPT,  please. 

LMP  Okay, 

CC  You'll  get  a  CSM  state  vector  if  you'll  give  us 

POO  and  ACCEPT. 

00  02  25  51    CDR  Got  POO  and  ACCEPT. 

LMP  Okay.      Let  me  have  my  favorite  pad. 

00  02  25  5h    CC  Okay.    Here's  the  TLI  pad.     Time  hase  6  at 

3:02:57;  180,  312,  000;  5:51;  DELTA- is  10359.6, 

35582;  000,  3*t5,  OUO;  extraction  will  he  at 
300,  165,  320;  312,0,  306,0,  57:10,  yaw  is  0; 
ejection  time,  h  plus  39  plus  00,  Over. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Here's  your  TLI  pad.  3:02:57; 

180,  312,  000;  5:51;  10359.6,  35582;  000,  3^'?,  OkO; 
300,  165,  320;  312.0,  306.0  57:10,  000;  ejection 
time,  k  plus  39  plus  00. 

CC  Good  readhack,  Jack;  and  we'd  like  OMNI  Charlie, 

and  it's  your  computer,  and  you've  got  your  state 
vector. 

00  02  28  OU    MP  Okay.     You've  got  OMRI  Charlie.     And,  Bob,  we  had 

almost  a  completely  weather- free  pass  over  Africa 
and  Madagascar.     And  the  scenery  -  both  aesthet- 
ically and  geologically  -  was  something  like  I've 
never  seen  before,  for  sure. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  We  got  odds  and  ends  on  the  tape  and  quite  a  bit 

on  the  film. 

CC  Roger;  good  show.    Are  you  saying  that  you  didn't 

have  any  weather  over  that  southern  Africa  there? 


Tape  i+/5 


LMP  Not  very  much.     Barely  broken  clouds  in  some  places, 

Most  of  the  countryside  was  clear. 


CC  Roger. 
LMP 


There  were  -  patterns  -  like  I  haven't  even  seen 
in  textbooks.    Maybe  I  haven't  been  looking 
enough,  but  some  of  the  desert  and  grassland  pat- 
terns -were  -  had  the  appearance  of  ice  crystals 
almost,  except  on  a  megascale,  if  you  -  have 
ever  looked  at  ice  crystals  in  sand. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Or,  better  yet,  ice  crystals  on  your  car  window 

when  you  -  get  out  early  in  the  morning  up  in  - 
northern  areas. 

CC  Roger.     And  just  be  advised,  we'll  be  standing  by 

for  the  GO/NO  GO  for  PYRO  ARM  when  we  get  to 
Hawaii,  and  we'll  be  giving  you  a  GO  for  TLI  about 
that  time. 

LMP  Okay;  and  we'll  be  ready. 

CC  And,  Ron,  in  -  on  the  Launch  Checklist,  on  2-25, 

on  the  manual  and  nominal  S-IVB  TLI-1,  add  3i+  de- 
grees on  the  nominal  pad  for  all  the  pitch  angles; 
and  on  the  manual  pad,  add  3h.^  degrees  to  all 
the  pitch  angles,  and  you'll  have  it  right, 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.     You  ...  -  - 

CC  And  -  - 


CM? 


CC 


  let  me  get  set.     That's  -  okay,  we'll  Just 

add  3k  to  the  nominal  and  3U.5  to  all  the  manual 
ones  ...  -  - 

And  you'll  want  to  do  that  on  your  cue  card  also, 
Ron, 


CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm, 

CC  And  we're  about  ready  to  LOS;  we'll  see  you  at 

Hawaii . 


Tape  l|/6 


CDR  Okay,  Boh,  we'll  see  you  -  - 

CC  02  plus  50  at  Hawaii. 

CDR  Okay,  50.     And  we'll  be  into  our  TLX  checklist, 

and  -  we'll  Toe  ready  for  that  PYRO  ARM. 

CC  Okay. 

HAWAII  (REV  2) 

00  02  I49  52    CC  Apollo  IT,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Houston,  this  is  Apollo  17.     Go  sthead. 

CC  Hey,  Ron,  you're  somding  great.     Good  voice  here. 

LMP  Golly,  we've  got  things  all  set  up  here  and  we're 

kind  of  standing  hy  for  a  logic  check  -  whenever 
you  guys  -  can  give  us  a  GO. 

CC  Roger.     As  soon  as  we  get  some  TM  in  here,  we'll 

give  you  a  GO. 

LMP  Okay . 

00  02  50  37    CC  17,  Houston.    We're  ready  for  the  logic  check. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    Okay.    Wait  1. 

00  02  50  55    CDR  Okay.    SECS  ARM  breakers  are  closed. 

CC  Roger. 

00  02  51  00    CDR  Okay;  and  LOGIC  1  is  ON  - 

00  02  51  02    CDR  MARK  it;  and  LOGIC  2  is  OK  - 

00  02  51  05     CDR  MARK  it. 

00  02  51  16    CC  17,  you're  GO  for  PYRO  ARM. 

CDR  Thank  you;  understand  GO  for  PYRO  ARM. 

CC  17  -  - 


Tape  U/T 


LMP  And,  Bob,  in  case  you're  interested,  there  -  all 

through  the  nightside  pass  here  -  there's  a  - 
q.uite  a  strong  -  well  -  stronger  than  I  would 
have  ever  expected  -  horizon  glow  off  to  the  north. 
I  suspect  that,  I  think  Gene  said  a  while  ago 
that  it's  around  on  his  side  also. 

53  15    CC  Roger.     Guys,  I've  got  the  word  you  wanted  to 

hear;  you  are  GO  for  TLI  -  you're  GO  for  the  Moon. 

CDR  Okay,  Robert.     I  understand.     America  aind  Chal- 

lenger with  their  S-IVB  are  GO  for  TLI. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  You're  a  sweet  talker. 

CC  We  try  to  please  here.  Gene. 

CDR  You  know,  somehow.  Boh,  I  knew  you  were  going  to 

say  that  -  we  were  GO  -  and  that  you  try  to  please. 

CC  We've  been  working  together  too  long,  I  guess. 

CDR  Not  long  enough,  yet. 

CC  And,  IT;  Houston.     You're  about  1  minute  from 

LOS,  and  we'll  pick  you  up  at  Goldstone  at  about 
3  hours  and  00  minutes;  and  that's  only  a  couple 
of  minutes  prior  to  time  base  6  start. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We'll  be  with  you. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Bob,  that  glow  is  actually  above  the  horizon,  just 

in  case  you're  curious.     I  can  see  -  stars  below 
the  top  of  the  glow  -  down  closer  to  the  Earth. 

00  02  55  21    CC  Roger,  Jack. 


GOLDSTONE  (REV  2) 


00  03  01  16  CC 


17,  Houston.  We're  with  you  again,  and  you're 
looking  good. 


Tape  k/% 


CMP  Okay;  mighty  fine.  Bob, 

23    CDR  And,  Bob,  we've  got  the  PYROs  AJMED  now, 

CC  Roger,    And  you  can  expect  some  different  OMNI 

calls  as  we  go  LOS  and  AOS  again. 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  I  always  expect  that ,  Boh . 

CC  Roger. 

00  03  03  00    CDR  SEP  light  is  ON  on  time. 

CC  Roger. 

00  03  03  07    CC  And  it  shows  time  base  6  right  on  time.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay , 

CC  We'd  like  OMNI  Delta,  please. 

00  03  03  27    LMP  Okay,  you've  got  it. 

CC  Roger. 

IMP  I'll  just  switch.  Bob.     I  won't  give  you  a  call. 

CC  Roger. 

39    CDR  SEP  light  was  OUT  on  time. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

00  03  06  15    CDR  ComiQ  check.  Bob. 

CC  17 »  Houston;  go  ahead, 

CDR  I  was  just  checking  with  you;  you're  so  quiet 
down  there ,  we  almost  forgot  you  were  there . 

CC  Roger.     Don't  want  to  forget  me.     We're  just  watch- 

ing everything;  we  can't  find  anything  wrong,  so 
we're  just  trying  to  keep  quiet  here. 

CDR  Okay-,  Bob.     We're  watching  the  S-IVB  tanks 

pressuri ze. 


Tape  hl9 


CC  Roger. 

CDR  You  ought  to  look  for  the  good  things  rather  than 

the  bad. 

CC  Well,  that's  good  when  we  don't  find  anything  wrong. 

CDR  Can't  agree  more. 

00  03  OT  30    CC  IT,  the  chilldown  is  in  progress,  and  the  tank 

pressures  are  looking  good. 

CDR  Okay,  Boh;  looking  down  here. 

00  03  09  35    CC  17,  Houston.     You  are  GO  at  3  minutes  prior  to 

ignition.     You're  looking  good,  and  you're  going 
to  -  we're  going  to  have  A  -  AEIA  coverage  all 
the  way  through  the  hum  until  Ascension. 

CDR  Roger;  understand.  Boh.     5T:10,  ORDEAL  OPERATE  - 

00  03  11  01    CDR  We're  in  average  g. 

CC  Roger.    We  confirm  it. 

00  03  11  13    CDR  SEP  light  ON  at  3:06, 

CC  Roger. 

00  03  12  01    CC  17,  you're  looking  great  on  the  final  status 

check  here,  and  you're  GO  for  TLX. 

ARIA  (REV.  2) 

00  03  12  20    CDR  ...  U2,  the  SEP  lights  are  OUT. 

SC  Roger. 

00  03  12  37    CDR  The  lights  on  and  we  have  ignition. 

CC  17,  Houston.     You're  looking  good,  and  the  thrust 

is  GO. 

CDR  Boh,  you're  now  advised  that  we're  GO  on  board  at 

'  20  seconds. 


Tape  k/10 


CC  Roger. 

SC  ...  antenna. 

CDR  One  minute,  Houston,  and  we're  GO. 

GC  Roger,  Gene.    We  can  barely  hear  you  through  ARIA, 

but  you're  GO. 

CDR  You  have  reasonable  signal  strength,  but  you  are 

unreadable. 

CDR  Everything's  GO  at  1:30. 

CDR  Confirm  a  PU  shift  to  GO  at  01:1+5. 

CC  17,  Houston,    We  can  confirm  PU  shift,  and  you 

are  GO. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  2:30  -  in  the  blind  -  we're  still 

GO, 

CC  Roger,  IT.    You're  GO;  looking  great. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     Got  that.     Understand  we're  GO  from 

the  ground;  and  it's  a  good  ride,  although  it's 
rumbling  around  a  little  bit. 

CC  Okay. 

00  03  15  38    CDR  Three  minutes,     and  we  are  GO. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CDR  Bob,  we're  going  to  TLI  right  through  sunrise. 

CC  Roger;  understand. 

00  03  16  06    CDR  Okay,  3:30  is  GO.    We  have  -  IT  is  GO  at  3:30. 

CC  Roger,  17. 

00  03  17  06    CDR  Okay,  Bob,  IT  is  GO  at  lt:30.    You're  still 


unreadable. 


Tape  k/11 


CC  Roger.     How  do  you  read  me?     You  are  GO,  ty  the 

way. 

CDR  Okay,  we  got  you  that  time.     Understand  we're  fiO 

on  the  ground,  and  we're  still  GO  here,  and  we're 
TLI-ing  right  through  sunrise. 

CC  Understand. 

CC  17,  Houston.       Your  'burn  time  is  nominal. 

CDR  Roger.     Understand  burn  time,  nominal. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  5/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUM)  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


00  03  18  30    CMP  Cut-off  at  52.    Did  you  read  the  DSKY? 

CC  We  don't  have  the  DSKY.     You  have  to  read  it  to 

us ,  Ron . 

00  03  18  ho    CMP  Okay.  is  -  I  got  a  00  and  a  00  and  NOUN  95 

is  35573  -  is  a  plus  9.    And,  Bob,  the  EMS  is 
minus  -  EMS  is  minus  19 -^j  minus  19-^. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that. 

CMP  And  it  was  an  auto  cut-off  -  auto  cut-off  on 

time . 

CC  Understand  a  guided  cut-off  on  time.  Looking 

great . 

CMP  And  I  am  watching  takn  pressures  -  are  venting, 

the  tanks  are  venting. 

CC  Understand.     The  tanks  are  venting. 


NOTE 


After  the  ARIA  pass  following  TLI,  there  is  con- 
tinuous acquisition  among  Goldstone,  Parks,  Honey- 
suckle, and  Madrid. 


00  03  22  52    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  how  do  you  read? 

CC  IT,  Houston.     We'd  like  OMNI  Delta. 

00  03  22  59    LMP  Okay.     I  picked  it  up  a  little  bit.     How  do  you 

read  now? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear. 

LMP  Okay.     I  hope  you  got  all  that.     It  was  a  beautiful 

burn,  right  through  smrise.     Did  you  get  the 
numbers? 


Tape  5/2 


CC  Yes,  we  copied  your        and  your  EMS  numbers,  and 

we've  got  a  nijmber  for  you.    Maneuver  start  time 
will  be  at  03  plus  33  plus  27. 

IMP  Okay,  we  got  you.    Maneuver  at  03:33:27- 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack. 

LMP  You  gays  didn't  tell  us  we  couldn't  see  anything 

going  through  the  sunrise . 

CC  (Laughter)  Roger. 

00  03  25  01    CC  17,  Houston.    We're  making  plans  here  for  a  space- 

craft SEP  time  of  03  plus  1+3. 

LMP  03  plus  U3.  Roger. 

00  03  27  27    CC  17,  Houston.    We're  copying  cabin  press  of  5-9  this 

time. 

CMP  Roger.    We  -  we  Just  got  it.  Bob. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Thank  you. 

00  03  31  55    LMP  Frame  65  for  the  LMPs  mag  November  November. 

00  03  3I+  10    LMP  Okay.    We  -  we  are  maneuvering,  Houston. 

CC  Roger.     We're  watching  it. 

CMP  How  we've  got  a  few  very  bright  particles  or  frag- 

ments or  something  that  go  drifting  by  as  we 
maneuver . 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

LMP  There's  a  whole  bunce  of  big  ones  on  my  window 

down  there  -  just  bright.     It  looks  like  the 
Fourth  of  July  out  of  Ron's  window. 

CMP  Yes.     Now  you  cexi  see  some  of  them  in  shape. 

They're  very  Jagged,  angular  fragments  that  are 
tumbling. 


Tape  5/3 


CC  Roger.     They  look  like  fluid  of  some  sort? 

CMP  Not  to  me.     They  look  like  pieces  of  something. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  They're  very  bright. 

CC  Jack,  we'd  like  OMNI  Charlie. 

CMP  Boh,  for  the  most  part,  these  fragments  are  not  - 

or  are  tumbling  at  a  very  slow  rate.     I  tried  a 
couple  of  pictures  of  them  -  different  settings. 
You  may  get  an  idea  of  what ,  at  least ,  the  patterns 
look  like . 

CC  Roger.     I've  got  you.     We're  all  ears  on  these  frag- 

ments.    Do  you  think  you  can  figure  out  what  they 
might  he? 

CMP  Well,  you  know  I  -  I  don't  know.     There  are  a  num- 

ber of  possibilities.     If  you  had  some  kind  of  a  - 
I  got  the  impression  maybe  they  were  curved  a  little 
bit,  as  if  they  might  be  -  off  the  side  of  the 
S-IVB.     And  that's  a  wild  guess  -  - 

CDR  Okay.     RCS  LOGIC  is  ...   

CMP    ice  chunks,  possibly.     Or  maybe  there's  paint 

coming  off  of  it. 

00  03  37  3^     CC  Roger.     I  noticed  on  one  trip  up  the  elevator  last 

weak  near  one  of  the  flags.     I  thought  it  was  on 
the  S-II,  but  it  might  have  been  on  the  S-IVB. 
Looked  like  it  was  peeling.     Maybe  that's  what 
you ' ve  got . 

00  03  3T  ^5     CC  And  the  S-IVB  maneuver  is  complete. 

00  03  37  U6     IMP  ...  in  1  minute. 

CDR  Okay.     We'll  set  the  old  clock. 

CMP  Okay.     And  the  -  with  the  maneuver  complete,  the 

fragment  field  is  essentially  static,  except  for 
very  slight  tumbling  within  the  fragments. 


Tape  5/i+ 


00  03  38  01    CC  Roger.     Cut  in. 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CDR 


CC 


Every  once  in  a  while,  a  fragment  of  consideratily 
higher  velocity  than  the  others  goes  across  my 
window.     But  that's  very  rare. 


CC  Roger. 


Hey,  that's  that  field  of  view  I  saw  out  my  window, 
Jack,  do  you  see  it  now? 


LMP  Yes 


And,  Boh.  At  least,  there  -  there's  no  apparent 
relative  motion  between  fragments. 


CC  Roger.  Understand. 


I'll  take  two  pictures  about  a  minute  apart  if  I 
can.     And  it'll  be  Frame  70. 


CC  Okay.    Frame  70, 


And,  Bob.     This  is  Geno.     My  impression  is  that 
they  are  -  flat,  flakelike  particles.     Some  may 
be  6  inches  across.     And,  although  there's  no 
relative  motion  between  the  two,  most  of  them  seem 
to  be  twinkling.     And  I  think,  for  the  most  part, 
they're  all  moving  away  from  us. 


Roger,  Gene.     Thank  you. 

00  03  39  35    CMP  Okay.     We've  got  Ol8o  and  0  on  the  old  thumbwheels. 

LMP  Okay, 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

00  03  39  53    CMP  Okay.     TRANS  CONTROL  is  ARMED. 

LMP  . . .  two  ARMED . 

00  03  39  57     CMP  CONTROLLER  number  2  is  ARMED. 

LMP  . . .  SECS  LOGIC  . . . 


Tape  5/5 


00  03  ho  01    CMP  Okay.     SECS  LOGIC  is  CLOSED;  SECS  AEM  are  CLOSED; 

LOGIC  POWER  is  ON. 

LMP  Okay . 

00  03  ho  13    CC  IT,  Houston.     You  have  a  GO  for  T&D. 

CDR  Okay.     A  GO  for  T&D. 

00  03  ho  38    CMP  Okay.     We'll  ARM  the  PYROs .     And  we'll  hit  the  GDC 

ALIGN . 

00  03  hi  00     CMP  And  maneuver's  complete.     And  Ol80  and  0?     On  the 

GDC?    No.     It's  just  ...     It's  kind  of  diddling. 

00  03  ^1  19     CMP  Okay.     DELTA-V  in  NORMAL. 

00  03  i+1  1+2    CMP  S-IVB,  okay.     Okay,  switches  are  all  set. 

LMP  Okay;  59:30. 

00  03  Ul  55    CMP  Okay.     Let's  start  the  DET. 

00  03  hi  59     CDR  Tickity-tick-tickity ,  Houston.    We're  running 

at  59:30. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay . 

00  03  1+2  12     CMP  Okay.     That's  LAUNCH  VEHICLE  SEP,  push  button. 

LMP  Okay . 

00  03  1+2  19     CMP  MC  in  AUTO. 

CMP  Next  ? 

00  03  1+2  29    CDR  SEPARATION,  Houston. 

CMP  Okay,  check  the  covers.     Okay.     And  check  the 

other  ones  off. 

LMP  They're  all  . . . 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  going  to  start  the  -  My  gosh,  look  at 
the  Junk!  Okay;  there's  15  seconds.  Pitch  her 
up.     Okay,  we'll  PROCEED  on  the   


Tape  5/6 


LMP  . . .  normal   . . . 

CMP  Okay,  we've  already  PEOCEEDed,  Jack. 

00  03  h3  10     CMP  Okay,  we've  checked  her  out. 

CDR  Houston,  we're  right  in  the  middle  of  a  snowstorm. 

CC  Roger.     And  we'd  like  OMNI  Delta. 

CMP  Hey,  look  at  that  burst.     It's  going  to  be  bright 

as  all  get  out . 

00  03  h3  22    CDR  And  there  goes  one  of  the  SLA  panels. 

CMP  Yes . 

CMP  We're  not  there  yet.     Long  ways  to  go  yet.  It's 

on  the  other  side  of  the  Earth,  if  the  simulator's 
any  good. 

CMP  Oh,  man! 

00  03  h3  58    CDR  There  goes  another  SLA  panel,  Houston,  going  the 

other  way, 

CMP  Yes . 

CDR  I've  -  ~ 

00  03  U1+  03    LMP  Hey,  there's  the  booster! 

CC  Roger.     Bet  you  never  saw  the  SLA  panels  on  the 

simulator . 

CDR  No,  but  we've  got  the  booster  and  is  she  pretty. 

Challenger's  Just  sitting  in  her  nest. 

CC  Roger.     We'd  like  OMNI  Bravo,  now.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  we'll  plus-X  it.     We'll  see  the  -  oh,  you 

can't  see  ...  Okay.     Oh,  I  can't  see  my  COAS. 

CDR  And,  Houston,  some  of  the  particles  going  by  the 

window  -  - 

LMP  Okay,  did  you  change  the  DAC? 


Tape  5/7 


CDR  -  -  were  obvious  enough  -  fairly  obvious  to  me  - 

paint , 

CC  Okay.    We'll  buy  that. 

LMP  Okay.    There  it  is.     Okay,  did  you  change  the  HAC? 

Got  ATT  1/rate  2? 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  you  want  the  high  gain? 

CC  Roger.    We're  standing  by  for  it,  and  the  angles 

as  published  on  L/3-3  should  be  good. 

CDR  Okay . 

00  03  U6  01     LMP  Okay,  it's  flying  pretty  good. 

LMP  Okay,  we're  in  REACQ  here. 

LMP  Houston,  how  do  you  read?    We  don't  have  a  very 

good  knock  -  lockon  here  in  REACQ. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     We're  reading  you  pretty  good  - 

voice . 

LMP  Okay.     It  looks  like  it's  improving.     It  dropped 

off  -  signal  strength  dropped  off,  and  now  it's 
picking  up  again. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  We're  getting  good  signal  now.  Jack. 

CC  Jack,  the  high  gain  is  looking  good. 

LMP  Oh,  okay. 

CMP  I'm  guessing.     I  don't  know  -  about  a 

hundred  ...  -  - 

LMP  That's  good  news.     It  seemed  to  smoo  -  slew  very 

smoothly,  so  it  looks  all  right. 

CC  Roger ,  Jack . 

LMP  ATT  l/RATE  2? 


Tape  5/8 


CDR  I  can't  tell  you  too  much.  Bob,  from  the  center 

seat  other  than  Captain  America  is  very  intent  on 
getting  Challenger  at  the  moment, 

CC  Roger.     I  can  believe  that. 

00  03  h8  26    CMP  Yes,  I'm  coming  in  a  little  slow,  but  we've  got 

plenty  of  time . 

00  03  ^8  59    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    While  we're  moving  in  here,  I  can 

see  a  few  chunks  of  that  platy  material,  possibly 
paint,  down  in  the  SLA  sort  of  bouncing  around 
between  the  S-IVB  and  the  LM. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  But,  so  far,  LM  looks  very  clean.     Can't  see  any- 

thing abnormal  from  this  view  yet. 

CC  Okay. 

IMP  Isn't  it,  though?    That  thing  is  really  stable  out 

there . 

00  03  50  31    IMP  Yes.     Can  you  see  it  at  all.  Gene? 

00  03  51  20     LMP  Got  one  little  chunk  coming  out  -  it  just  came  out 

of  the  SLA,  and  it's  spinning  along  the  long  axis, 
and  it  looks  very  stable. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Every  once  in  a  while,  a  small  particle  flies  off 

of  it  though. 

CC  How  big  of  a  chunk  are  you  talking  about ,  Jack? 

LMP  Say  again? 

How  big  an  item  are  you  talking  about? 


CC 


LMP  Oh,  I  -  reference  to  the  thrusters ,  about  the  same 

diameter  as  the  thruster  on  the  LM. 

CC  Oh,  Roger. 


Tape  5/9 


LMP  That's  how  long  it  was,  and  about  -  oh,  a  fifth 

that  thick  or  that  wide. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  I  don't  think  -  I  don't  think  it's  more  than  a 

quarter  of  an  inch  or  maybe  even  less  thick. 

CDR  That  same  particle.  Bob,  came  by  and  as  it  went 

spinning,  it  was  throwing  off  pieces  of  itself  - 
radially  out . 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

00  03  52  31    CDR  There's  a  small  one  come  floating  by  and  it  looked 

like  flakes .    And  I  think  I  caught  three  of  the 
four  SLA  panels  going  as  we  were  maneuvering.  I've 
got  one  out  the  hatch  window  now.     It's  quite  a 
ways  out . 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  It's  tumbling  in  all  three  axes. 

LMP  And  I  saw  the  fourth  one  out  my  side,  so  we  saw 

them  all. 

LMP  Area  around  the  two  spacecraft  is  cleaned  up  pretty 

well  by  now.  There  are  just  a  few  fragments  moving 
around . 

CMP  Now  she's  coming  in. 

00  03  5^  58    LMP  Rover  looks  in  good  shape,  so  far. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Can  you  see  down  on  that  quad?  Is 

that  what  you're  looking  at? 

LMP  Yes ,  I'm  looking  right  at  it .     And  I  got  a  good 

view  of  the  MESA  top  anyway.     It's  pretty  well 
covered,  but  it  looks  aJLl  right  also. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  All  the  antennas  look  good;  thruster  quads  all 

look  great.     I  could  see  all  four  of  them  a  min- 
ute ago. 


Tape  5-10 


CMP  Okay,  about  10  feet  there,  Gene.     Stand  ty  for 

a  ...  on  the  "barber  pole. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  All  right ;  in  good  shape  . 

00  03  56  35    CMP  It's  out  now. 

00  03  56  U5     CDR  Capture,  Houston. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  FREE;  rates  look  pretty  good.  Let's 
lock  it  together. 


LMP 

Okay.     You  ready? 

CMP 

Ready.     She's  lined  up  not  bad. 

CDR 

Okay. 

CMP 

PRIM  1. 

00 

03 

57 

03 

CDR 

MARK  it.     Stand  by. 

00 

03 

57 

OU 

CMP 

Here  she  comes. 

00 

03 

57 

10 

CMP 

Ka-chunk .     My  gosh ! 

00 

03 

57 

13 

CDR 

Okay,  Houston,  ripple  fire;  but  we  still  have 

ber  A  barber  pole. 

CC 

Roger.    We  copy. 

00 

03 

57 

19 

CDR 

And  we  have  a  MASTER  -  and  a  MASTER  ALARM. 

CC 

Roger . 

CDR 

We  got  -  we  got  the  most  of  the  latches,  but  J 

barber  pole,  and  B  is  gray. 

00 

03 

57 

29 

CMP 

Okay,  check  both  circuit  breakers;  they're  IN 

Okay. 

CMP  We  had  one  clear  fire,  maybe  one  or  two  latches 

and  then  a  ripple  fire  on  the  rest . 


Tape  5/11 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  And,  "by  the  way,  I  had  a  good  view  into  the  AOT , 

and  I  can  still  look  in  there,  and  it's  very  clean. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  In  fact  -  - 

CC  Eon  and  Gene,  we  saw  your  MASTER  ALARM.     Did  you 

have  any  -  anything  on  the  matrix  light  up? 

CDR  No,  not  a  thing.     I  looked. 

CC  Roger. 

00  03  59  20    CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we're  going  to  go  ahead  and  take  a  look 

at  that  docking  malfunction  hefore  we  press  on 
here  further  axid  check  this  barber  pole  out . 

CC  Roger,    We're  working  some  words  up  here.  We'll 

be  back  vith  you  in  a  second  on  that.  Gene. 

00  03  59  33    CDR  Okay.     We're  down  on  the  checklist  through  the  EDS 

POWER  breakers,  OPEN. 

CC  Understand. 

CDR  And,  Houston,  in  case  we  didn't  tell  you,  it's 

talkback  A  that's  barber  pole. 

CC  Understand.    We  have  it. 

CC  Say  -  say.  Gene,  we  don't  think  it's  a  problem. 

We'll  find  out  what  it  is  when  you  get  in.  We 
think  we  should  Just  press  right  on  with  the  Flight 
Plan  checklist  and  keep  going. 

CDR  Okay,  we  concur  with  that.     Okay,  we'll  press  on. 

Bob , 

00  Ok  01  38    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We  just  got  a  MASTER  ALARM  when  I  went 

to  the  RETRACT  PRIM,  from  1  to  OFF. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.     Looks  like  panel  2  is  jinxed 

up  there,  huh? 


Tape  5/12 


00  OU  03  09    CDR  Okay,  0^  HEATER  number  3  went  to  AUTO. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

00  0l+  07  i+T     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We're  reading  a  DELTA-P  of  greater 

than  1+,  and  I'm  going  to  open  the  PRESSURE  EQUALI- 
ZATION VALVE  now. 

CC  Roger,  IT-     We  copy  that. 

00  0l+  08  hk     CDR  Okay,  the  DELTA-P  is  coming  down.  Bob. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Gene,  while  you're  watching  that,  I  Just  thought 

you'd  be  interested.    ¥e  talked  to  some  of  our 
friends  down  at  the  Cape  who  watched  the  launch , 
and  they  said  you  were  aglow  all  the  way  until  you 
faded  into  -  you  couldn't  tell  you  from  a  star. 
They  saw  staging,  and  they  could  just  see  you  as 
a  star  way  off  in  the  distance  until  you  faded  out. 
Hot  a  cloud  in  the  way  at  all. 

00  ok  09  31     CDR  Beautiful.     Okay,  we're  at  -  we're  at  2,  and  we're 

monitoring  it  for  3  minutes . 

CC  Okay . 

00  0l+  09  1+6    LMP  And,  Houston.    While  we're  checking  the  integrity 

here,  on  mag  Alfa  Alfa,  there's  about  50  percent. 

CC  Mag  Alfa  Alfa,  50  percent.  Roger. 

00  0l+  12  28    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    That's  3  minutes.     It's  -  DELTA-P 

change  is  less  than  0.1. 

CC  Three  minutes  and  less  than  0.1. 

CDR  We  are  pressing  on. 

CC  Roger;  press, 

00  Ok  Ih  18    CMP  Okay,  you  want  cabin's  at  I4.8  now;  REPRESS  is  about 

empty.     Okay.     No,  not  yet,  it's  still  gettinf^  a 
little  bit. 


CMP 


That  REPRESS  PACKAGE  VALVE  is  kind  of  noisy. 


Tape  5/13 


00  oh  Ik  56     CMP  That's  all  the  REPRESS  0^.     We'll  turn  that  OFF. 

Okay,  Houston,  the  REPRESS  PACKAGE  is  empty  now, 
and  we're  down  to  a  DELTA-P  of  0.2. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

CC  And,  17.     Just  he  advised,  you're  going  to  have  an 

S-IVB  nonpropulsive  vent  start  0U;l8:27-  You've 
got  about  3  minutes  on  that . 

CDR  (Laughter)     Okay.    Thank  you. 

00  ok  16  kO    LMP  Can  you  reach  . . .  there? 

CMP  Yes,  I'll  get  them. 

00  Ok  16  k3    CDR  Okay,  Boh.    We  seem  to  he  holding  DELTA-P  at 

about  0.2.     I  suspect  that's  probably  zero. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

00  Ok  17  00     CDR  And  the  cabin  pressure's  about  k."}.     You  want  us 

to  wait  until  5  psi  for  the  EMERGENCY  CABIN  PRES- 
SURE SELECTS? 

CC  Negative  on  that.     Let's  just  go  ahead  and  let's 

press  on. 

CDR  Okay.     They  should  be  BOTH. 

00  OU  17  33    CMP  Okay,  EMERGENCY  register  working. 

CMP  Coming  down  though.  Gene.     Let's  vait  until  it 

gets  down  a  little  ways. 

CMP  Yes , 

CMP  Yes .     Straight  up  and  down  as  well . 

CMP  Up  one  one.     Must  be  the  nonpropulsive  VENT  that's 

banging.  (Laughter)  Here  comes  all  the  -  look  at 
all  the  stuff  going  again.     It's  really  glowing. 

LMP  Your  nonpropulsive  vent  gives  quite  a  glow. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 


Tape  5/1^ 


CMP  It  looks  like  a  rainlDov.     Dark  one. 

00  0I4  19  16     CMP  Okay.     REPRESS  PACKAGE  to  FILL. 

CDR  That  ought  to  take  the  surge  tank  down  a  little  bit. 

.  .  .  ahout  at  what?    Ahout  i+00? 

CDR  500  on  the  surge.     No,  they  ought  to  be  closed  off 

by  now ,  I  think ,    Yes . 

CC  IT,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Roger.     Be  advised,  you  don't  have  to  wait  until 

5  psi  cabin  to  go  ahead  and  open  the  hatch. 

CDR  Okay,  we're  not.  Bob.     We're  pressing  on  with  it 

now. 

CC  Roger. 

00  OU  20  07    CDR  Okay,  it  looks  like  we're  going  to  maintain  about 

kOO  on  the  surge. 

CMP  Okay? 

00  Oh  20  53    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    The  hatch  is  coming  out. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I  don't  know  what  you're  going  to  do 
with  it. 

CDR  Put  it  up  here  in  the  -  in  the  -  on  the  couch. 

CDR  There  we  go. 

CDR  Hey,  that's  a  lot  lighter  than  it  used  to  be. 

CDR  There's  going  to  be  a  lot  of  happy  people  down 

there.  Bob.     I  haven't  checked  them  all,  but  vis- 
ually, they're  all  locked. 

CC  Understand,  Gene.     All  of  them  are  locked. 

CDR  Let  me  give  them  a  good  check. 


Tape  5/15 


CMP  Yes.     You'd  better  check  them,  because  we  got  a 

barber  pole  on  that  one . 

CDR  Okay,  here's  one  that  ***  over. 

CMP  What  is  the  position  of  it? 

CDR  7  *** 

CMP  7  and  9? 

CDR  Hey,  Bob.    Maybe  we  aren't  all  going  to  be  so 

happy . 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  T,  9,  and  10  -  the  handle  is  flush;  the 

bungee  is  vertical,  but  the  handle  is  not  locked 
down,  and  the  -  and  the  red  button  is  showing. 
And  I  can  pull  each  one  of  them  back  slowly.  I 
haven't  done  anything  with  them.     That's  7,  9i 
and  10 . 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that.    The  handle  is  flush;  the 

bungees  are  vertical,  but  the  handle  is  not  locked 
down,  and  the  red  button  is  showing  on  7,  9, 
and  10. 

CDR  That's  affirm. 

00  01+  23  58    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     Bob,  I  just  pushed  the  handle  on  10 

home  a  little  bit  and  it  did  lock.     And  the  red 
button  is  flush.     So  that  leaves  me  9  and  7- 

CC  Roger;  understand. 

CC  Geno,  go  ahead  and  try  the  handle  on  9  and  7;  and, 

if  that  doesn't  work,  cock  them  and  refire  them 
starting  with  9,  please. 

CDR  Okay;  the  handle  doesn't  work,     I'll  have  to  re- 

cock  them. 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  When  you  trip  it  with  your  -  did  you  cock  it 

twice? 


Tape  5/16 


CDR  Yes . 

CMP  And  it  took  two  cocks  to  make  it  go? 

CDE  Yes . 

00  oh  25  Oil     CDR  Okay,  9  cocked  twice;  it  tripped.     It  is  overcenter 

and  locked. 

CC  Roger.     How  about  the  barter  pole  now? 

CMP  Okay.    Wait  a  minute,  I've  got  -  DOCKING  PROBE 

MAIN  A  circuit  breaker's  IN  and  gone  to  RETRACT, 
and  it's  gray. 

CC  Okay   

CDR  Aha!     That  did  it. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  And  - 

00  Oh  25  hj     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     Cocked  7  twice  and  tripped  it,  and 

it's  overcenter  and  locked. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  I  think  that  takes  care  of  them  all. 

CC  Good  show. 

00  Oi+  26  3^    CMP  Okay,  DOCKING  PROBE  circuit  breakers  are  OUT  and 

EXTEND /RETRACT  is  OFF. 

00  oh  26  U8     CMP  Because  it  belongs  on  the  probe.      ...   it's  painted 

yellow,  it  belongs  on  the  probe. 

00  Oh  28  08     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     The  umbilicals  are  connected. 

CC  Roger. 

00  Oh  29  06     LMP  Okay,  Houston,  T  Delta  on  the  test  meter  is  now 

reading  1.0.     It  Jumped  up  to  2.6,  and  is  now 
back  to  1.0. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy.     That's  good. 


Tape  5 /IT 


00  OU  30  31    LMP  There  we  go.     Okay.     There,  we're  going  up  in  the 

tunnel . 

CMP  Pretty  good  ham  sandwich. 

00  oh  32  02    CDR  Okay,  Boh,  the  hatch  is  back  in. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

00  Oi*  3*+  57    CC  IT,  Houston. 

CMP  Go  ahead,  Houston. 

CC  Roger.    We've  got  some  new  -  new  angles  here  for 

you. 

LMP  Stand  by  a  minute,  and  let  me  find  a  place  to  copy 

them. 

CMP  What  -  what  kind  of  angles  are  they.  Bob? 

CC  They're  your  NOUN  22  attitude  maneuver  for  APS  burn 

out  of  the  hatch  window.     They're  in  the  middle  of 
the  page  L/3-5. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Instead  of  2T0,  we  want  21 h . 

CMP  Wait  1,     We're  not  quite  with  you. 

CC  Okay , 

CMP  Okay.     I  think  I'm  with  you  at  3-T ;  go. 

CC  It's  on  3-5,  Jack,  middle  of  the  page  there.  Those 

NOUU  22s. 

LMP  Okay,  I  teuke  it  back;  3-5,  middle  of  the  page. 

CC  Okay.     You  notice  there's  three  angles  there  - 

2T0,  make  that  2'jk. 

LMP  Okay.     That  the  only  change? 

CC  And  the  -  N,  the  next  one,  the  129-8,  change  that 

to  l6U.     And  U.3  on  the  yaw,  change  that  to  zero. 
It's  close  enough;  zero  on  the  yaw. 


Tape  5/18 


LMP  Okay.'  We  got  them  27 h ,  iGh  ,  00. 

CC  Roger,  and  the  high-gain  angles  that  you've  got 

on  the  Flight  Plan  are  close  enough  and  should  do 
it. 

LMP  Very  good. 

00  Oh  39  23    CMP  Okay.    We're  6  frames  a  second.     Okay,  what  -  what 

did  . . .  RAMGE  . . . 

CMP  Okay,  I'll  -  I'll  leave  it  at  10  feet  and  about  an 

f  -  f/8.  Okay,  ...  at  set.  Because  I  had  that  one 
to  Ol80  to  0. 

00  01+  1+0  32     CDR  Okay,  Boh.     We're  aligning  our  GDC,  and  the  next 

thing  we'll  pick  up  will  be  SECS  ARM  circuit 
breakers.     And  we'll  give  you  a  call  on  the  LOGIC. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     While  we're  waiting,  does  the  balance 

on  the  -  - 

CMP  I  see  what  you  mean  (laughter). 

LMP    and  0^  flow  into  fuel  cell  3  -  well, 

actually,  in  all  three  fuel  cells,  look  pretty 
good  to  you? 

CC  Jack,  the  flows  look  just  right  for  the  current. 

LMP  Okay.     Used  to  seeing  them  more  or  less  lined  up, 

and  I  hadn't  calciaated  any  further  than  that. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  0^  -  0^  seems  a  little  higher  H^,  relatively 

speaking. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  pretty  close.     Verified:     SECS  ARM 

breakers  are  CLOSED. 


CMP 


Okay,  Houston.  We're  ready  to  come  up  with  the 
LOGIC . 


Tape  5/19 


00  oh  1+2  13    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  LOGIC  1  is  coining  on  nov  and 

LOGIC  2. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And,  Houston,  just  to  keep  track  of  EMS  null  tia? 

check  that  time,  was  -  went  from  100  to  100.7  in 
100  seconds. 

CC  17,  we'd  like  to  just  verify  on  that  top  line 

S-IVB/LM  SEP  circuit  breakers  -  "both  of  them  are 
CLOSED? 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  verify  them  again.     We  doublechecked 

them. 

CC  Okay,  we  just  didn't  hear  your  call  and  we  want  to 

make  sure  of  that.    Didn't  want  to  miss  anything 
here . 

CMP  Okay.     They  are  -  they  are  verified  CLOSED,  and 

Jack  just  checked  them  again. 

00  OU  1+3  27     CC  Okay.     You  are  GO  for  PYRO  Ai^M  and  GO  for 

extraction . 

CMP  Okay,  GO  for  PYRO  ARM;  GO  for  PYRO  extraction  - 

or  IM  extraction  (laughter) . 

LMP  Okay,  PYRO  ARM. 

00  0I+  1+3  1+1     CMP  Okay,  we'll  ARM  the  old  PYROs .     There's  PYRO  A; 

PYRO  B. 

LMP  SERVO  POWER  number  1  ... 

00  OI+  1+3  1+9     CMP  TVC  SERVO  POWER,  AC  1. 

LMP  TRANS  CONTROL  POWER,  up  and  ON. 

00  OI+  1+3  5h     CMP  TRANS  CONTROL  POWER  is  ON. 

00  OI+  1+3  59     LMP  Okay,  ROT  CONTROLLERS  are  ARMED.     Okay,  I'll  wait 

just  a  little  bit  on  that  -  EMS  to  NORMAL.  Get 
DELTA-V  . , . 


00  OI+  1+1+  28  CMP 


Okay,  EMS  to  NORMAL?     Push  right  there.  Yes. 


Tape  5/20 


CDR  Okay;  on  ray  mark,  the  S-IVB/LM  SEP  will  come  on. 

00  Ol+  hh  ho    CMP  Okay,  ajid  then  I'll  back  it  off  to  -  Okay? 

00  Ok  kk  51    CDR  Okay,  on  my  mark,  S-IVB/LM  SEP:  3,2,1- 

00  Ol+  i+5  02    CDR  MARK  it.     Okay,  we  got  it. 

CMP  Oh,  ho!     Man,  did  we!  There  she  goes.     Yes;  LM 

came  with  us . 

00  Oh  li5  13     CMP  Okay,  we're  CMC,  AUTO.     All  right.     We've  got  0.6. 

It's  all  right.     Okay,  whoopee-dee-doo ! 

00  oh  1+5  28     CMP  Safe  the  PYROs .     Okay,  LOGIC'S  OFF. 

00  oh  h5  38     CMP  SECS  -  SECS  ARM  breakers  are  OPEN. 

00  oh  h6  10    CMP  Now  I  think  we  ought  to  go  to  the  maneuver  pretty 

quick.     Otherwise,  the  S-IVB  will  be  so  far  away 
you  can't  see  it.     Okay,  you  ready  to  maneuver? 

00  Oh  h6  26     CMP  Okay,  CMC  in  AUTO,  caged.     Away  we  go.     That  - 

that   ...  wasn't  as  bad  as  the  original  ... 

CMP  Yes . 

CMP  Came  right  out,  though. 

GO  OU  h6  i+8    LMP  MAPPING  CAMERA  and  PAU  CAMERA  are  OFF. 

00  Oh  1+7  05     CMP  Okay.     POWER'S  OFF.  Hey,  Jack.     Hand  me  the 

Hasselblad.     I  think  we're  bowing  the  right  direc- 
tion.    Yes,  the  Moon  is  there.     The  Earth  is  - 
that ' s  the  Earth . 

CMP  SERVO  POWER'S  OFF,  yes. 

CMP  The  Earth  just  fills  up  window  5-     Okay,  f  infinity, 

about  a  250th. 

00  Ol*  1+T  1+5     CMP  What  -  what  do  you  have?     A  zero  in  there?  Hey, 

I  lost  my  watch.     Turn  ...  OFF.     Yes,  AC  is  OFF. 
Whoo,  what  a  beauty!     What  a  beauty!     Yes,  the 
Earth. 


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Tape  6/1 

APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUID  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 


00  01+  U8  16    CDR  I  can't  see  the  S-IVB.     It's  gone. 

SC  Look  at  that. 

LMP  Yes,  Madagascar  and  Africa.     Got  to  be. 

CDR  . , .   see  it. 

LMP  Got  to  be. 

SC  Yes,  as  soon  as  I  ...  the  S-IVB,  we'll  - 

LMP  Hey,  there's  Antarctica.     It's  all  full  of  snow. 

Okay.    You  want  to  look? 

CMP  Yeah. 

LMP  Yes.     Oh,  there  it  goes,  there.     Looks  kind  of 

empty  down  there  without  the  LM  -  - 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we're  looking  right  up  the  dome  of  the 

S-IVB. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.     We're  standing  by  for  youi- 

GO  for  yaw  maneuver. 

CMP  We  caji  give  them  a  GO  for  yaw,  can't  we?    We  can 

see  it  now. 

CDR  Yes,  we  can  see  it.     You've  got  the  GO  for  the  yaw. 

CC  Roger.     Thank  you,  IT- 

CDR  Looks  like  she  came  out  of  there  clean  as  a 

whistle. 

CC  17,  Houston.     The  yaw  maneuver  will  be  starting 

in  about  k  plus  52,   a  little  less  than  2  minutes 
from  now. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  Sounds  like  you  are  taking  a  picture  of  that  old 

dome  out  there,  huh? 


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CMP  Oh,  ve're  at  the  end.     (Laughter)     We're  at  the 

end  -  you  know. 

SC  ...     in  there. 

00  Ok  52  Oh    LMP  Hey,  there  it  goes.     Look  at  the  aft  fire  of  the 

thing. 

CDR  Yes,  we  can  see  it  fire  now. 

CC  Roger,  17.     Yaw  maneuver  started. 

LMP  The  old  S-IVB  had  a  flare  for  the  dramatic,  hut  it 

certainly  did  its  job  for  us. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Preliminary  data  indicate  that  you 

are  about  as  nominal  as  you  can  be. 

CDR  That's  the  way  we'd  like  to  keep  it ,  Bob. 

CC  You'd  better  believe  it. 

CDR  Okay.     She's  -  as  we're  looking  at  it,  she's 


pitching  up.     She  was  looking  right  at  us  -  we 
were  looking  right  at  the  dome  -  and  now  she's 
pitching  up.     The  shroud  around  the  lU  seems  to 
be  totally  intact.     It  -  it  looked  like  a  super 
clean  separation.     I  can't  really  see  where  there's 
any  paint  or  anything  externally  chipped  off  the  - 
the  booster  from  here.     We're  beginning  to  -  to 
pick  up  the  bell.     It's  really  a  shame  you  don't 
have  this  -  this  whole  thing  on  TV;  it's  really 
q.uite  a  sight . 

CC  Roger.     We  concur  with  that. 

CDR  The  Mylar  and  the  gold  coating  on  the  inside  of 

the  shroud  that's  now  visible  is  also  intact.  It 
looks  like  you  could  use  it  again  if  you  could  get 
it  back. 

CC  Well,  it's  got  a  job  to  do  when  it  hits  the  Moon 

yet. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We've  -  we're  almost  looking  at  it 

broadside  now. 


CC 


Roger. 


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CDR  Okay.     She's  spitting  a  little;  looks  like  the 

yaw  maneuver  may  be  complete . 

CDR  We  got  a  -  full  view  of  the  -  entire  J2  from  here  ; 

and  no  kidding.  Boh,  the  whole  bird,  the  shroud  at 
the  top  by  the  lU,  the  separation  plane  down  by  tlie 
S-II,  from  here  all  looks  as  clean  as  a  whistle, 
all  the  way. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     If  you're  happy,  we'd  like  a  GO  from 

you  for  the  evasive  burn. 

CDR  Okay.     You're  going  to  burn  on  the  boosters  plus 

X-axis,  is  that  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Let's  get  a  picture  or  two  here  yet,  and  we'll 

give  you  a  GO. 

CC  And,  Gene,  it'll  be  about  T  minutes  until  the 

evasive  burn;  5  plus  03. 

00  Oh  56  31    CDR  Okay.     You  have  a  GO. 

LMP  And  for  your  reference,  at  frame  105  I  started  a 

few  250-millimeter  -pictures  of  the  S-IVB. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

CDR  And,  Bob,  the  entire  sky,  as  far  as  I  can  make  it 

out  through  the  hatch  window,  is  completely  filled 
with  our  twinkling  flakes . 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

LMP  I  saw  a  couple  peirticles  go  by  the  window  awhile 

back,  and  it  looked  a  little  bit  like  insulation 
in  this  -  these  particular  case  -  styrofoam  insula- 
tion, but  in  flat  flakes. 

CC  Roger  that. 

LMP  That  was  right  after  we  separated  from  the  S-IVli. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  CSM  sep  -  CSM  sep.  Bob. 


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CC  Roger.  Understand. 


00  Ok  59  05    CDR  Bob,  I  know  -  I  know  we're  not  the  first  to  dis- 

cover this,  but  we'd  like  to  confirm,  from  the 
crew  of  America,  that  the  world  is  round. 


CC 


CDR 


CMP 


Roger.    That's  a  good  data  point.     Have  you  gotten 
a  good  look  at  any  of  that  weather  down  there  on 
the  Antarctic? 

Well,  on  Ron's  window  number  1  -  maybe  he  can  tell 
you  a  little  about  it . 

You  know,  it's  ^-eal  funny  there  in  Antarctica  the  - 
You  can  see  the  snow,  but  there  isn't  any  weather 
at  all  in  it.     All  of  the  weather's  around  it  in  the 
water. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  That's  where  the  moisture  is.     I  don't  know  what 

to  take  a  picture  of. 

CMP  I  can't  see  the  U.S.  at  all. 

CC  17,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 


CC 


CDR 


CMP 
CDR 

CMP 
LMP 


Look's  like  you've  got  a  superconservative  CMF  up 
there.     We've  run  off  some  numbers  -  Looks  like 
you  used  about  1+0  pounds  of  RCS  on  the  T&D ,  and 
you've  used  about  a  total  of  i+2  pounds  RCS  total; 
so  we're  hanging  right  in  there.  Beautiful. 

Very  fine;  glad  to  hear  that. 


SC  ...  velvet  touch. 


Still  a  little  bit  too  much,  but  that's  not  bad. 

We'll  be  glad  to  leave  all  that  extra,  I  hope,  in 
the  service  module  when  we  get  home. 

It's  in  the  Volkswagen  pouch  down  there. 

Oh,  I'll  change  the  lens  now. 


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CC  17,  Houston.     It's  about  30  seconds  from  the 

evasive  maneuver  burn. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Here,  Jack,  can  you  see  him  good?     Check  the  set- 

tings there.     I  took  an  f/22  stop. 

00  05  03  19    CDR  There  it  goes.  Bob. 

IMP  There  it  goes;  finally. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  IT,  Houston.     The  evasive  burn  is  complete,  and 

the  LOX  dump  will  be  at  5  plus  2k  plus  20. 

CDR  Okay;  5  plus  2k  plus  20. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  It's  going  to  be  gone,  I  think,  before  we  see  it. 

CDR  And,  Bob,  you  can  tell  Frank  to  forget  the  - 

returning  that  phone  call  I  made  to  him  a  couple 
days  ago . 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

CDR  All  my  questions  are  answered. 

CC  Think  you've  had  enough  booster  briefings,  hula? 

CDR  Yes.     I  figure  this  is  probably  the  best  one  of 

all. 

CC  Frank  said  he'd  guarantee  all  those  S-IVBs  would 

be  just  as  good  as  that  one. 

CDR  Okay.     That's  -  fair  enough. 

CDR  The  S-IC  and  the  S-II  didn't  put  on  a  bad  show 

either . 

CC  That's  right. 

CMP  Houston,  magazine  November  November  is  on  about 

1/23  right  now. 


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00  05  08  ll+    CC  Okay,  Ron.     Magazine  November  November  is  on  1/23. 


CDR 


CC 


LMP 


CC 


CC 


LMP 


And,  Bob,  ve're  on  page  3-9  of  the  Flight  Pl;m 
now.     We'll  check  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P,  get  the  oabin 
fan  filter  In.     We'll  go  over  the  check  -  the 
Systems  Checklist,  get  the  primary  EVAP  and  a  few 
odds  and  ends,  and  start  doffing  our  PGAs .  How's 
that  sound? 

Sounds  like  a  winner.  Gene. 


CDR  Okay. 


I  guess  you  saw  that  one,  Houston.  That  had  nc 
caution  or  warning  with  it. 


Roger.     That  a  MASTER  ALARM? 
LMP  Yes,  sir. 

CC  How  about  the  LEB? 

LMP  ...  say  again.     (Laughter)  You  caught  me.     I  for- 

got to  look.     Keep  after  us;  we'll  get  you  that 
data  point. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  Gene's  got  his  hands  all  over  panel  2,  which  prob- 

ably is  what  caused  it . 

CC  Jack,  we  think  that  might  have  been  a  real  one  due 

to  the  accumulator  cycle  with  the  0^  makeup  flow 

going  on  there  -  it  gave  -  it  held  the  0  flow 
higher  for  -  greater  than  l6  seconds. 

00  05  11  35    LMP  Well,  that's  certainly  a  possibility.     We  didn't 

notice  it  -  Looked  upright  at  the  time.     But  it  - 
Sure  that  was  the  right  time? 


Well,  EECOM's  watching  it  here,  and  he  feels  It  in 


LMP  Gee,  I  can't  argue  with  him. 


Okay,  Houston.  Ready  to  deactivate  the  primary 
evaporator  if  you  concur. 


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CC  Roger,  Jack.     We  concur. 

00  05  15  18    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     VHF  SIMPLEX  Alfa's  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  we're  gradually  moving  into  getting  out  oC  the 

suits . 

CC  Yes.     I'll  bet  you're  looking  forward  to  that, 

LMP  Well,  I'll  tell  you  it ' s  a  different  world  without 

that  old  one  g  on  you.  The  old  suit's  a  little  bit 
friendlier. 

LMP  And,  as  you  may  have  noticed.  Bob,  we've  come  to 

the  end  of  the  Launch  Checklist. 

CC  That's  affirmative,  and  we've  put  ours  away  for 

posterity.     We  also  stored  it  with  our  TLI  zero 
data  that  we  worked  so  hard  to  generate. 

LMP  V/ell ,  I'm  Just  happy  -  didn't  -  use  it.     That  view 

of  the  Earth  for  a  rev  there  was  something  I  was 
].ooking  forward  to  and  I  was  not  disappointed. 

CC  That's  great.  Jack. 

CDR  Bob,  you've  got  a  pretty  good  size  storm  over  the 

north  -  1  guess  the  northwestern  coast  of  India, 
where  it  starts  to  wrap  up  and  around  to  the  west . 
It's  a  -  rounded  out  on  the  horizon,  so  I  can't 
make  out  exactly  where  it  is  too  well. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Could  we  get  a  read-out  on  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P? 

00  05  18  20    LMP  Plus  O.k. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.  ^ 

CDR  Bob,  Antarctica  is  what  I  would  Ga,ll  ef  f ectivi;  ly 

just  a  solid  white  cap  down  on  the  -  South  Poll--. 
There's  definite  contact  between  the  continent  and 
the  \-rater .     But,  as  Ron  said,  most  of  the  clouds 
seem  to  be  very  artistic,  very  picturesque  -  some 
in  clockwise  rotating  fashion  but  appear  to  be 


Tape  6/8 


very  thin  vhere  you  can,  for  the  most  part,  kind 
of  see  through  those  clouds  to  the  blue  water 
below. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  The  continent  -  the  continent  itself  is  -  is  the 

same  color  as  the  clouds ;  but ,  of  course ,  more 
dense  -  and  striking  difference  than  any  of  the 
other  white  background  around  because  you  can 
definitely  see  that  contact  with  the  water  and 
with  the  clouds  over  the  water. 

CC  Roger.     Understand.     There'll  soon  be  a  comm  switch 

over  to  Madrid  here  shortly.     We  may  break  ...  in 
just  a  few  minutes  here.     Or  a  few  seconds,  rather. 

CC  And  you  might  watch  -  your  accumulator's  going  to 

cycle  in  about  20  seconds  here.     Let's  see  what 
happens  on  the  MASTER  ALARM. 

CC  17,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  through  Madrid? 

00  05  20  36    CMP  You're  loud  and  clear.  Bob,  and  could  you  give  us 

our  distance  from  the  Earth? 

CC  Roger.     I'm  looking  up  at  the  board.     I'd  guess  at 

about  19,000  miles.     Want  me  to  get  it  exact? 

CMP  No,  Just  approximate ' s  good  enough. 

CC  18,100,  FIDO  says. 

CDR  Okay.     And  I  suppose  we're  seeing  as  100  percent 

full  Earth  as  we'll  ever  see;  certainly  as  I've 
ever  seen.     It  appears  to  be  -  it  may  be  a  little 
bit  -  a  little  bit  of  a  terminator  way  out  to  the  - 
well,  to  the  east  -  out  beyond  Australia  and  beyond 
India.     But  beyond  that  it's  about  99  percent  pure. 

CDR  Bob,  it's  these  kind  of  views  -  these  kind  of  views 

that  stick  with  you  forever. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

00  05  22  39    CDR  We've  got  a  -  I  guess  probably  the  continent  of 

Africa  dominates  the  world  right  now.     It's  cover- 
ing the  -  oh,  the  upper  third  -  upper  and  wentern 


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third  of  the  -  of  the  world.     We  can  see  the  Sinai; 
■we  can  see  up  into  the  Mediterranean;  -we  can  see 
across  the  Mediterranean,  although  we  can't  quite 
make  out  the  countries  up  there;  we  can  see  across 
into  India.     1  catch  a  glinpse  of  Australia  out  in 
the  far  horizon.     Got  Zanzibar  on  the  southern  tip 
of  Africa,  the  Cape  doim  there  just  almost  directly 
belov  us.     And,  I  don't  know  exact. ly  how  big 
Antarctica  is,  but  I  guess  we  can  certainly  see 
more  than  50  percent  of  it.     And  -  the  rest  of  it 
is  all  ocean.     The  Indian  Ocean  out  into  the 
Pacific  Ocean  and  back  into  the  Atlantic  Ocean. 
And  for  the  most  part  relatively  clear  of  clouds 
except  in  the  Antarctica  region,  and  up  towards 
Europe  which  is  -  which  is  on  the  horizon,  across 
the  Mediterranean,  it  looks  like  there  might  be 
some  clouds  back  up  in  that  way.     I  probably  - 
probably  -  well,  not  probably  -  I  can  make  out  the 
entire  coast  of  Africa  from  Mediterranean  around  to 
the  west,  coming  back  to  the  south  back  where  it 
takes  its  big  dip  to  the  east ,  back  around  the 
Cape,  back  around  up  through  the  Suez  Canal,  almost 
perfectly. 

CG  Roger.     We  understand. 

CDR  And  there's  one  batch  of  clouds  in  northern  Africa, 

just  a  small  batch,   it  looks  like  it  may  be  up  near 
the  -  well,  no,  it's  not  near  the  mouth  of  the  Nile; 
it's  quite  a  bit  west  of  that,  as  a  matter  of  fact, 
I  can  see  the  mouth  of  the  Nile;   1  can  see  it  run- 
ning straight  down  towards  us  as  it  parallels  the 
Suez  and  then  sort  of  fades  out  into  the  central 
darker  brown  or  darker  green  portions  of  Africa. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     Sure  be  nice  to  have  that  on  TV, 

wouldn't  it? 

CDR  Boy,  I'd  love  to  give  it  to  you;   any  way  I  could. 

CDR  You  know  -  and  there's  no  strings  holding  it  up 

either.     It's  out  there  all  by  itself. 

CC  Roger.     I  just  was  -  going  through  the  IT  status 

report  on  CSM  systems  and,  boy,  everything  is 
absolutely  nominal,  with  the  exception  of  ... 
glitching  MASTER  ALARMs  that  we're  trylnr,  to  ntii.l 
track  down;  but  every  other  system  is  just  noininaj  . 
Everything  is  great. 


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00  05  26  01    CDR  Okay.     Sounds  good.     That's  the  way  they  built  it 

for  us. 

CC  Gene,  looking  at  our  plot  board,  you're  directly 

over  the  southern  tip  of  Africa  or  just  slightly 
out  in  the  Indian  Ocean  there,  according  to  our 
plot  board,  which  isn't  exactly  accurate  all  the 
time.     But  shortly  you're  going  to  start  going 
backwards  on  the  Earth  here  and  head  back  across 
the  Atlantic.     That  ought  to  be  some  sort  of  a 
first.     You  cross  the  Atlantic  twice,  going  from 
west  to  east,  and  then,  now  you're  going  to  cross 
it  going  from  east  to  west  here  shortly.    All  in 
a  very  short  span  of  time. 

00  05  27  ho    CDR  Yes.     I  guess  that  does  sound  like  a  first. 

00  05  29  53     CDR  Bob,  I  can  assume  that  from  what  you  said  there 

will  be  -  probably  not  be  a  midcourse  1? 

CC  That's  exactly  what  we're  working  towards,  Gene. 

And  I  -  I'm  sorry  I  didn't  convey  that  feeling  to 
you  a  little  earlier.  There's  no  reason  for  mid- 
course  1  right  now. 

CDR  Okay.     Because  we  prefer  to  press  on  and  get  the 

suits  off  and  hit  the  sack  rather  than  make  it , 
unless  we  have  to. 

CC  That's  for  sure.     Roger.     The  earlier  data  showed 

us  midcourse  1  would  have  been  less  than  3  feet  per 
second,  and  we  wouldn't  have  done  it.     And  the 
data's  been  fluctuating,  but  they're  smoothing  it 
out,  and  it's  still  holding  that  way;  so  we  won't 
be  doing  it,  probably. 

CDR  Okay.     Very  good, 

LMP  Bob,  I'm  looking  over  Gene's  shoulder  here  at  the 

Earth,  and  it  must  be  an  awful  clear  day  for  the 
so-called  convergence  zone  across  Africa.  Gene, 
I  think,  indicated,  as  it  looked  to  us  as  we 
crossed  it  earlier,  most  of  Africa  is  clear.  Only 
some  -  probably  are  broken  and  scattered  clouds  - 
cumulus  in  the  east  central  portion  that  are  run- 
ning along  the  line  of  -  north/south  lines. 

CC  Roger. 


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LMP  Looks  like  a  major  circulation  system  off  the 

southern  tip  of  Africa,  as  Gene  mentioned,  plus 
one  west  of  that,  20  or  30  degrees  of  longitude. 
Make  that  east  of  that. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And,  southwest  of  the  -  make  that  south  southwest 

of  the  tip  of  Africa  at  Cape  Good  Hope,  there  looks 
like  an  incipient  circulation  system  developing 
about  half  way  between  the  coast  of  Antarctica 
and  Africa.     If  I  had  to  guess,  it's  going  to  swing 
up  north  towards  the  Cape  and  -  and  then  swing  west. 
The  whole  pattern,   ...  it  looks  like  now,  is  a 
fairly  equally  spaced  cyclones  that  are  sort  of 
circling  around  the  Antarctic  continent,  as  we  can 
see  it  now. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

00  05  33  50    LMP  But  I  would  guess  that  South  Africa  is  going  to 

have  good  weather  for  several  more  days,  at  least. 
And  if  the  pattern  is  -  is  apparent  in  the  clouds 
we  see  is  correct,  the  last  disturbance  I  mentioned 
probably  is  going  to  pass  south  of  the  Cape  also. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

LMP  As  we  were  going  -  over  our  daylight  around  the 

Earth  in  orbit ,  it  was  very  clear  looking  at  the 
various  clouds,  Bob,  what  were  high  clouds  and 
what  were  low  clouds,  particularly  when  you  had 
them  together.     The  high  clouds  cast  very  distinct 
shadow  patterns  on  the  lower  ones  and,  very 
commonly,  had  entirely  different  orientations  - 
pattern  orientations.     The  low  ones  seem  to  be  moi"e 
associated  with  arcuate  front  patterns;  whereas, 
the  high  clouds  were  generally  transverse  to  that, 
roughly  north/south  directions.     That's  not  com- 
pletely general  observation,  but  I  noticed  it 
several  times. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

CC  I  just  noticed  on  the  plot  board  here,  it  looks 

like  you're  come  up  on  20,000  miles  out,  right 
about  now. 


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00  05  35  27    LMP  It  feels  like  about,  20,000  miles. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Bob,  I  have  the  first  hint  of  contamination  on 

window  5.     It's  covering,  probably,  the  central  - 
well,  I'd  say,  -  roughly  around  -  it's  square 
about  -  7  inches  in  -  on  the  side  with  a  very  thin 
film  that's  catching  the  sunlight;  and  slightly 
irridescent,  but  also  very  finely  granular  -  very 
finely  granular.     You  can  just  barely  tell  what 
it  is,  actually. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

00  05  37  ^5    LMP  Looks  like  very  uniform  in  thickness  right  now. 

00  05  k6  31    LMP  Bob,  this  is  Jack,     We've  got  a  UCTA  dump  scheduled, 

or  is  possible,  at  6  o'clock.     There's  nothing 
sacred  about  that  time,  is  there? 


CC 

00  05  h9  03    LMP  Okay 


Nothing  at  all.  Whenever  you're  ready,  just  go 
ahead  and  dump. 


Bob,  one  of  the  things  that  we  miss  in  our  training 
is  a  good  geography  lesson,  and  particularly  on 
Antarctica.     I  got  the  monocular  out,  and  appar- 
ently the  dark  band  that  Gene  -  Ron  mentioned  as 
interface  between  the  continental  water  is  that 
between  the  pack  ice  and  the  water.     And  you  can, 
by  very  subtle  changes  in  the  apparent  smoothness 
of  the  ground,  probably  make  out  where  the  actual 
continent  begins  and  the  pack  ice  ends.     There  are 
a  few  exposed  ranges,     I  guess  it's  midsummer  down 
there  now,  and  you  can  make  out  the  snow-free  areas 
scattered  at  least  in  the  northern  portion  of  the 
continent . 

Roger.    Did  you  get  any  pictures  of  that.  Jack? 

Oh,  yes.     We  got  some  pictures  earlier.     I'm  going 
to  get  another  one  here  in  a  minute.     I'll  tell 
you,  if  there  ever  was  a  fragile-appearing  piece 
of  blue  in  space,  it's  the  Earth  right  now. 


CC 


Roger. 


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00  05  50  21    CDR  And  ve  got  a  mSTER  ALARM. 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that • 

CDR  And  there's  one  in  the  LEB. 

CC  Okay.     Good  data  point. 

CDR  And  there  are  no  caution  lights. 

CC  It  came  right   ...   acciimulator  cycle,  along  with 
the  high  0^  flow  again. 

CDR  Yes,  I  just  checked  the  time,  and  1  think  you  are 

right  on  that  one.     Well,  we  gave  you  your  LEB 
data  point. 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

LMP  The  problem  with  looking  at  the  Earth  (laughter) 

particularly  Antarctica,  is  it's  too  bright. 

CC  Understand. 

LMP  And  so  I'm  using  my  sunglasses  through  the  monoc- 


ular, which  is  not  the  best   (laughter)  viewing 
platform.     I  think  I  can  see  some  of  the  areas  of 
the  Dry  Valley,  but,  again,  I'm  not  too  sure  of 
my  geography.  Bob-     There  are  clouds  over  the  con- 
tinent, I  believe.     But,  of  course,  they're  just 
as  white  as  the  snow,  and  you  only  see  differences 
in  texture  brought  out  by  -  probably  varying  photo- 
metric return  because  of  fairly  low  sun  angles  down 
there. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  But  you  can  see  patterns  of  what  I  believe  is 

pack  ice  -  leading  off  from  that  sharp  interface 
that  was  talked  about  earlier.     And  those  patterns 
seem  to  merge  directly  with  the  patterns  of  the 
clouds  as  if  the  -  at  least  near  the  continent  - 
the  oceanic  currents  are  controlling  the  air  cur- 
rents, up  to  a  point,  along  with  the  movement  of 
the  pack  ice. 

CC  Roger . 


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LMP  I'm  distinguishing  the  pack  ice  from  clouds  mainly 

hy  the  angularity  of  the  patterns  within  them. 
There  is  no  good  clear  color  or  alhedo  distinction. 
So,  I  could  -  I  could  be  looking  entirely  at  clouds, 
but  I  suspect  there  are  some  pack  ice  patterns, 
too.     I'm  not  keeping  you  awake,  am  I,  Bob? 

^'^  No»  sir.     Just  keep  talking;  we're  listening.  And 

I'm  sure  not  much  of  the  world  is  listening,  but 
this  will  all  be  recorded,  and  you  can  read  it  all 
when  you  get  back  and  think  it  through  and  tie  it 
up  with  the  pictures.     And  I'm  sure  there's  goinp 
to  be  people  interested  in  this.     And  we're  inter- 
ested ourselves;  Just  keep  talking. 


00  05  53  29    LMP  All  I  want  to  do  is  read  what  I 


LMP 


CC 


LMP 


say, 


CC  Roger.     If  I  had  a  little  more  geology  training, 

I'd  be  asking  you  some  better  questions.  I'm 
afraid,  right  now,  1  can't  think  of  anything  to 
ask  you. 


Well,  I  can't  -  I  really  wish  I  knew  that  geography. 
I  don't  know  -  I  wish  I'd  thought  of  bringing  a 
good  map  of  Antarctica.     Could  somebody  do  a  little 
researching  for  me  and  see  if  they  could  tell  me 
if  we're  -  have  a  Little  American  view  -  say  on  the 
eastern  edge  of  the  continent? 

Roger.     We'll  see  if  we  can  get  some  Antarctica 
geographers  around. 


LMP  Yes,  I'd  like  to  -  and,  also,  whether  or  not  they 

think  the  Dry  Valley  area  is  visible  to  us.  Let'; 
see,  there's  some  -  some  of  the  people  over  there 
in  Bill  Bennett's  group,  I  think,  have  a  little 
Antarctic  experience,  or  used  to.     They  might  be 
able  to  help  you  out . 

Okay.     We'll  see  what  we  can  track  down  on  it. 


Don't  use  up  a  lot  of  people's  time  on  it,  but  - 
but  I'd  be  interested. 


CC  Roger.     It's  getting  pretty  empty  around  here, 

It's  5:00  in  the  morning,  so  -  (laughter) 


Tape  6/15 


LMP  Okay.     There  is  a  good  strong  northern  hemisphere 

cyclone  up  near  India,  and  I  think  Gene  mentioned 
that.     It,  I  think,  was  one  I  saw  in  some  of  the 
forecast  sheets  as  a  dissipating  hurricane  or 
typhoon.     I'm  not  sure  which  it  is  there.     I  guess 
it's  a  typhoon.     And  I  see  something  here  that  I 
noticed  in  Earth  orbit.  Bob.     That  as  you  approach 
the  terminator  -  and  now  I'm  looking  at  the  eastern 
terminator  -  have  to  keep  all  my  directions  straight 
here  -  yes,  eastern  terminator.     The  clouds  -  those 
associated  with  the  cyclone  over  India  and  one 
that's  -  appears  to  be  due  south  of  there  -  maybe 
30  degrees  of  latitude  -  have  a  gray  appearance. 
The  -  instead  of  the  brilliant  white  of  other 
clouds  as  you  approach  the  terminator,  those  -  at 
least  the  high  level  clouds  are  gray.     Now,  when 
we  were  going  over  them  in  orbit,  the  lower  level 
clouds  were  still  white,  and  I  think  I  can  see  a 
hint  of  that  right  now.     The  Sun  gives  a  strong 
light  reflection  off  of  the  buildups  in  the  low- 
level  clouds;  whereas,  the  high-level  and  probably 
layered  cirrus  and  maybe  some  of  the  intermediate 
level  stratus  tend  to  look  gray  because  of  grazing 
Sun,  I  suspect. 

00  05  56  U6    CC  Roger.     You  mentioned  something  in  Earth  orbit 

that  kind  of  intrigued  me.     You  mentioned  seeing 
the  rainbow,  and  we  were  trying  to  figure  out  how 
you  saw  a  rainbow  up  there.     And  you  were  in  orbit 
already  at  that  time.     Do  you  remember  that? 

LMP  Well,  -  we're  not  -  we  were  speaking  of  the  merits 

of  the  sunrise. 

CC  Okay.  Roger. 

LMP  Of  having  a  banded  color  appearance  that  varied  as 

you  approached  sunrise.     I  can't  remember  what 
we  -  I  think  we  put  some  of  that  on  tape ,  and  we 
were  probably  LOS  at  the  time.     But  the  banded 
character  of  the  sunrise  in  the  atmosphere  was  very, 
very  marked.     There  was  a  gray-blue  upper  layer 
followed  -  that  merged  or  graded  Lnto  a  brilliant 
blue  intermediate  zone  that  was  Just  above  th(-- 
cloud  levels.     And  within  the  clouds,  yoii  got  a 
orange  to  yellow  band,  getting  more  yellow  as  the 
Sun  rose,  that  was  broken  by  the  dark  patterns  of 
the  buildups. 


Tape  6/16 


CC  Roger.     Good  show. 

LMP  The  interesting  thing  was  the  continual  glow  on  the 

horizon  we  had,  even  at  night,  on  the  darkside  pass. 
And  that  glow  was  in  the  atmosphere  because  I  could 
see  stars  rise  over  the  horizon  in  it  and  then  pass 
on  through  it . 

CC  Roger.     You  were  talking  -  the  airglow,  I  guess,  is 

the  phenomenon  most  of  the  guys  had  seen  before. 
It's  kind  of  interesting,  huh? 

LMP  Yes,  that's  -  that's  right.     It's  interesting  -  I 

guess  standard  airglow,  but  it  is  very  striking  that 
it's  a  continuous  thing  even  in  the  dark  pass. 

CC  Roger. 


LMP 


CC 


CC 


LMP 


LMP 


I  think  I  did  see  the  eastern  tip  of  South  America, 


now. 


CC  Roger.     You're  starting  to  back  up  now,  coming  the 

other  way.     So  you're  still  over  Africa,  according 
to  our  chart  here,  but  you're  backing  up  towards 
the  -  South  America. 

LMP  Yes,  I  can  see  the  part  of  South  America  that 

Mercator  thought  that  fitted  in  with  the  bend  in 
Africa  so  many  decades  ago  and  started  people 
thinking  about  moving  continents  around  on  the 
crust . 


Roger.  Jack,  how'd  the  PGA  doffing  go?  Most  of 
you  -  are  you  all  out  of  the  PGAs  now? 


00  06  00  01    LMP  That's  in  work.     We're  taking  It  slow  and  easy 

up  here,  Bob. 


Roger.     Understand.     I'll  just  be  curious  to  see 
if  they  all  fit  in  that  bag. 

I  think  you'll  find  that  Ronald  Evans  will  also  be 
curious  about  that.     He's  already  made  comments. 


CC  Roger. 


Bob,  you  certainly  do  have  a  very  clear  Lnt.uit,  Iv(- 
impression,  although  the  evidence  is  hard  Lo  pull 


Tape  6/lT 


together,  that  the  -  any  frontal  systems  that  move 
off  the  Antarctic  continent  do  not  take  on  any 
well-defined  character  until  they  get  into  the   . . . 
regions  of  the  ocean.     And  when  they  do,  they  seem 
to  pick  up  an  arcuate  cire  -  circulation  that,  in 
the  view  we  have,  seem  to  get  fairly  regularly 
spaced  cyclone  patterns  that  lie  between  the  Ja-oe 
of  Good  Hope  and  northern  portion  of  Antarctica,. 
And  these  -  circulations  of  cyclones  follow  rouglily 
an  east/west  pattern,  and  the  curve  -  and  the  arcs 
of  the  fronts  are  more  north/south  than  -  let's 
say  northwest,  swinging  around  to  the  south. 

CC  Roger. 

MP  All  of  them  -  all  of  them  very  -  very  nicely 

defined  as  southern  hemisphere  cyclones.  There 
are  ahout  four  of  those  visible  swinging  around  - 
oh,  I  guess,  that's  latitude  -  I'm  having  to  guess 
here,  but  I'd  say  latitude  50  to  6Q  south. 

CC  Okay;  50  or  60  south  on  that,  huh? 

LMP  Yes ,  I  have  to  look  at  the  map  here  in  a  minute 

and  see  if  that  puts  me  between  Antarctica  and  the 
Cape. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Well,  the  tip  -  the  tip  of  Africa  there  is  at 

about  32  south. 

LMP  Well,  that  sounds  like  a  pretty  good  guess,  then. 

It  looks  like  the  intertropical  convergence  zone 
over  Africa  is  starting  to  get  more  and  more  clouds 
in  it  now.     I  suspect  as  midday  approaches,  whii'h 
is  what  we're  seeing  there,  we  can  expect  to  see 
more  and  more  moisture  indications. 

CC  Roger.     They're  -  they're  probably  about  noontime 

right  there  right  now.     It's  11:36  at  the  zero 
meridian  at  Greenwich,  so  it's  just  a  little  bit 
before  noon  right  in  that  area  you're  talking 
about . 


LMP 


Yes,  some  of  those  masses  of  what  I  suspect  are 
cumulus  buildups  -  well,  not  really.     They  don't 


look  like  they're  as  concentrated  and  localized. 
More  like  just  masses  of  fairly  dense  clouds  that 
are  developing  in  that  band  of  green  that  crosses 
the  lower  portion  of  Africa. 

Roger . 

Stay  tuned  for  the  next  installment  on  the  Earth. 
I'll  try  to  get  out  of  this  suit. 

Okay.     Just  take  it  easy.  Jack,  and  we'll  be 
listening. 

Man,  I've  never  taken  it  so  easy  in  my  life.  I'll 
tell  you.  Bob,  I  couldn't  have  believed  this  would 
be  an  experience  like  it  is  now. 

Roger. 

Every  time  you  turn  around,  there  is  something 
else  to  see  and  wonder  what's  causing  it.  Whether 
it's  a  particle  zipping  across  the  window,  or  one 
zipping  across  the  cabin,  or  spring  mechanics  here 
in  zero  g;  there's  always  something  going  on. 

Roger. 

Bob,  if  I'm  not  waking  you  up,  an  observer  from 
another  planet  certainly  -  probably  could  decide 
that  we  have  such  things  as  clouds  and  at  least 
large  thunderstorms  because  right  at  the  terminator 
you  get  a  brightening  of  the  sunlit  side  and  a  long, 
long  shadow  out  to  the  -  out  to  the  east  that  is 
reminiscent  of  what  we  saw  in  the  early  days  look- 
ing at  the  Moon  at  the  terminator. 

Roger . 

However,  in  the  next  pass  around,  I'll  bet  you 
wouldn't  see  them. 

I've  never  been  a  big  -  Well,  I  didn't  grow  up 
with  the  idea  of  drifting  continents  and  sea- floor 
spreadings,  but  I  tell  you,  when  you  look  at  the 
way  the  pieces  of  the  -  of  the  northeastern  por- 
tion of  the  African  continent  seem  to  fit  together 
separated  by  a  narrow  gulf,  you  could  almost  make 
a  believer  of  anybody. 


Tape  6/19 


CC  Roger.     It's  beginning  to  look  like  the  globe  that 

you  might  buy  down  at  the  store,  huh? 

LMP  Oh,  I  don't  think  so.  Bob.  (laughter) 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  I  don't  think  we'd  better  put  this  one  up  for  sale. 

Somewhere  there  might  be  somebody  who  would  like 
to  buy  it. 

00  06  12  53    CC  Say,  Jack.     We  noticed  the  0^  flow  has  dropped 

down  now.     We're  wondering,  did  you  all  close  the 
waste  storage  vent  valve? 

CMP  I  don't  think  so;  let  me  check  on  that.     It  might 

have  gotten  closed  inadvertently  in  this  game  we 
were  playing  down  in  the  LEB. 

LMP  Ron  says  it's  still  on  VENT. 

CC  It's  on  VENT,  Roger. 

CC  Okay.     We're  noticing  the  flow  is  coming  back  up 

slowly;  so  something  caused  it  to  drop,  and  it's 
coming  back  up. 

00  06  13  i+2    LMP  Okay. 

00  06  18  09     CC  IT,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Jack,  just  to  ease  those  words  I  said  before,  we 

looked  at  the  schematics  here  a  second,  and  you'd 
be  dumping  urine  out  of  that  same  line  as  that 
waste  vent,  and  that  would  probably  cause  the 
pressure  to  build  up  enough  to  slow  the  0^  flow. 

And  we  noticed  that  the  0^  flow  is  climbing  back  up 
to  where  it  belongs. 

LMP  Well,  that's  clever.  Okay. 

CC  Didn't  mean  to  worry  you  there.     Shouldn't  have 

said  it,  I  guess,  before  we  looked  at  the 
schematic . 


Tape  6/20 


LMP  Oh,  I  really  hadn't  started  to  worry  about  it  yet. 

Boh ,  so  no  sweat . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  7/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROXJltD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


00  06  22  hk    LMP  How'd  the  S-IVB  work  go.  Bob? 

CC  They  just  finished  their  second  b\irn,  and  it's 

targeted  right  where  they  want  it.     Just  working 
perfectly. 

IMP  Where  were  they  going  to  put  that  one?     I  guess 

I  lost  track  of  that. 

CC  Seven  degrees  south  ajad  8  degrees  west.  Jack. 

IjMP  Say  again,  you  cut  out  on  the  first. 

CC  Okay;  7  degrees  south  6ind  8  degrees  west. 

00  06  23  h5    LMP  Okay.    That  ought  to  he  interesting. 

00  06  29  19    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  how  do  you  read  CDR? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay. 

LMP  Bob,  LMP's  going  off  the  air  for  a  little  while. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  It  sounded  like  a  sigh  of  relief. 

CC  No,  sir.    Been  enjoying  listening  to  you;  keeping  - 
keep  me  awake  down  here. 

LMP  You  had  a  long  day. 

CC  Not  as  long  as  you've  had. 

LMP  I've  just  been  lying  around,  floating  around. 

CC  You  make  it  sound  so  good. 

LMP  Piece  of  cake.    I'll  talk  to  you  in  a  little  while. 

00  06  30  hi    CC  Yes,  sir. 


Tape  7/2 


00  06  1^0  31    CMP  Houston,  Apollo  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 


CMP 


CC 


Okay;  we  had  another  MASTER  ALARM,  and  I  Just 
glanced  up  and  it  was  the  MAIH  A  UNDERVOLT  light 
that  was  on,  just  for  a  second. 

Okay.     Ron,  we  didn't  see  anything  at  all  on 
MAIN  A  down  here.     We  did  have  an  ACCUMULATOR  cycle 
again.    Don't  know  if  that  ties  in  or  not. 

CMP  Well,  the  MAIH  A  UITDERVOLT  -  I  Just  happened  to  be 

looking  right  at  the  panel  and  the  MAIN  A  UNDERVOLT 
light  blinked  on  for  a  second.    And,  of  course, 
obviously,  MAIN  A  is  up  now. 

CC  Roger . 

CC  Ron,  Houston  here.    We've  checked  the  back  room  and 

the  hi^-speed  charts  and  that  and  don't  see  any 
glitch  on  MAIN  A  at  all  on  our  data  down  here, 

00  06  k2  3h    CI4P  Okay,  Bob. 

00  07  10  28    CMP  Houston,  I7.     That  was  0^  FLOW  HIGH. 


CC 


Roger.  We  copied  that  one.  ¥e  saw  it.  Just  about 
ready  to  call  you  when  you  called  us  Just  now. 


00  07  10  hi    CMP  Okay.     Mighty  fine. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  8/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAMSMISSIOW 


00  07  50  33    CMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Roger.     Go  IT- 

CMP  That  little  MASTER  ALARM  there,  I  can't  be  abso- 

lutely positive,  but  out  of  the  corner  of  my  eye, 
I  think  it  was  the  SUIT  COMPRESSOR  light  that 
gilt chad. 

CG  Okay.    We  copy  that.    You  -  ve  believe  down  here 

it  was  the  HIGH  0^  FLOW. 

CMP  Well,  they're  pretty  close.     I  thought  it  was  red 

and  I  thought,  okay;  that's  good.  That's  the  right 
time,  I  guess. 

CC  Okayi  because  we'd  Just  called  it  out.     I  was  just 

read  for  you  5  seconds  before  you  called  me. 

CMP  Very  good.  Doctor. 

CC  Roger.    And  Tony  is  back  in  Houston  on  the  console. 

CMP  That's  hard  to  believe.    What  are  you  doing  back 

there?    We're  -  we  haven't  even  had  time  to  go  to 
sleep. 

CC  Well,  I  tell  you,  it's  a  tale  that's  hard  to  be- 

lieve.    It's  almost  as  miraculous  as  your  escape 
from  the  pad  tonight. 

CMP  Did  you  enjoy  the  launch? 

CC  Beautiful. 

CMP  You've  seen  one  night  launch,  you've  seen  them  all. 

Huh ,  Parker? 

00  07  52         CMP  We  go  to  SCS.  Okay. 

CMP  Never  know  if  it's  drifting  up,  but  we'll  try  it. 

CMP  Dust  whipping  all  over  the  place.    The  stars  in 

there  - 


Tape  8/2 


CMP  ...     Yes,  let's  do  a  little  better  now. 

00  07  57  21    LMP  MARK.    Bob,  mag  November  November  is  130  now.  And 

I  just  took  another  set  of  Earth  pictures. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     November  November  at  130. 

CMP  And,  Houston,  17.     You  copying  the  torquing  angles 

now? 

CC  Roger.     Stand  by. 

00  07  57  59    CC  Okay.    We  have  them,  and  you're  GO  to  torque  them. 

00  07  58  05     CMP  Okay.     I'll  torque  it  at  58:10. 

00  07  59  38    CMP  ...  REFSMMAT. 

CC  And,  17,  we  have  a  preferred  REFSMMAT  standing  by 

if  you  want  to  give  us  ACCEPT,  and  we'll  send  it 
up  before  you  do  your  second  P52. 

00  07  59  53    CMP  Okay,  you  have  POO  and  ACCEPT  now. 

00  07  59  55    CC  Roger.    Understand  we  have  updata.     It's  coming  in. 

And,  Ron,  while  we're  sending  it  up  to  you,  we'll 
also  send  you  an  update  on  the  zero  trunnion  bias, 
as  per  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine. 


CMP 
CMP 


CMP 


Somewhere.     There  it  goes. 
There  they  are,  right  there, 


00  08  03  15    CC  Okay,  17.     Ron,  you  can  go  to  BLOCK  now.  You've 

got  your  PTC  REFSMMAT.     You're  free  to  do  a  P52 
option  1,  if  you  want.     And,  be  advised  we  are 
suspicious  from  time  to  time  you  may  have  an  open 
mike  there. 


Okay.    Thank  you.  Bob. 


00  08  10  1+5    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    Those  are  the  differences  in  the 

gyro  torque  and  I'll  torque  it  -  oh,  11,  I  guess. 
Eight  to  11. 


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Okay.    Copy  that. 

Apollo  IT,  Houston.  Over. 

Go  ahead. 

Roger.    We've  been  discussing  the  question  of  what 
your  sleep  configuration  is  going  to  be  in  terms  of 
headsets  or  not ,  particularly  with  reference  to  all 
of  these  various  MASTER  ALASMs .     And  I  guess  we'd 
feel  better  if  one  of  you  guys  slept  with  his  head- 
set on.    We  were  curious  as  to  what  your  plans  are? 

Bob,  since  I've  got  to  wear  the  biomed  anyway,  I 
might  Just  as  well  go  ahead  and  keep  it  on. 

Okay.    The  other  option  is  for  us,  -  if  we  were 
trying  to  get  hold  of  you  -  is  to  put  the  Klaxon 
up.     But  we're  a  little  -  un-in-favor  of  that,  be- 
cause of  the  possibility  of  one  of  these  spurious 
things  waiting  everybody  up  that  way. 

Yes,  I'll  go  ahead  and  keep  it  on  and  see  how  it 
works  out  for  a  while. 

Okay.     We  copy  that.     And,  when  you  guys  are  ready, 
we  have  a  couple  of  -  we  have  three  items  to  read 
up  to  you,  three  updates  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

Okay.     Go  ahead.  Bob. 

Okay.  The  first's  in  the  Flight  Plan  itself,  and 
it's  the  quads  for  the  PTC  spinup,  and  they'll  be 
Alfa  and  Bravo. 

Okay.    For  PTC  spinup,  quads  Alfa  and  Bravo. 

All  right,  we  just  took  that  back.     It  should  be 
Bravo  and  Delta  for  spinup;  Alfa  and  Bravo  only  for 
daniplng.     Copy  Bravo  and  Delta  for  spinup;  Alfa  and 
Bravo  for  damping. 

And,  IT,  if  you  have  that,  I  have  two  others.  One 
in  the  Flight  Plan  Supplement  Book,  and  the  other 
one  is  in  the  G&C  Checklist. 


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CMP  Okay.     Go  with  the  Supplement. 

CC  Okay,     In  the  Flight  Plan  Supplement,  we  have  an 

E-LOAD  update  on  page  1— U3.     Okay;  1— U3  —  give  me 
a  call  when  you  get  to  that  page. 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.     I'm  there. 

00  08  18  23    CC  Okay.    Under  line  -  it's  307  Ol+,  column  Bravo  - 

you'll  find  currently  33550.     And  let  me  give  you 
a  word  of  warning.    When  we  change  this,  we'll  be 
changing  it  again  around  6^  hours.     These  are  pri- 
marily due  to  the  launch  delay.     And  we'll  give  you 
another  GET  update  of  this  sort  later  on.     The  new 
number  to  replace  3  -  - 

CMP  Bob   

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Let  me  get  a  pencil,  please. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  I'll  use  that  instead  of  a  pen. 

CC  Okay. 
CMP  Go  ahead. 

GO  08  20  03    CC  Okay.     Under  -  Again,  I  remind  you,  307  Ok  column 

Bravo,  which  was  33550,  is  now  3it76l.     The  line  Just 
below  it,  which  is  05,  also  in  column  Bravo,  is 
15^03.  Over. 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.    For  30701+  Bravo,  3I+76I;  and  for 

310  05  Bravo,  15U03. 

CC  Okay.     Very  good.     The  next  one  is  in  the  G&C  Check- 

list under  the  P37  block  data.  And  to  help  you  find 
it,  that's  on  page  l|-23. 

CMP  Okay.     Go  ahead. 

00  08  21  20    CC  Okay.     On  the  lift-off  plus  15,  be  the  first  block. 

It's  015:00,  3893,  minus  17I+ ,  057:56.     The  second 


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block  for  lift-off  plus  25  is  05  -  Pardon  me, 
start  over  again  there;  025:00,  6651,  minus  175, 
057:25.  Over. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston;  Apollo  IT.     First  one  would  be 

015:00,  a  DELTA-V  of  3893,  minus  17^+,  and  GET^^qj^ 

is  057:56.     The  other  one  is  T.     of  025:00, 

DELTA-V  of  6651,  longitude  of  minus  175,  GET  of 
1+OOK  is  057:25. 

CC  Roger.     Good  readback. 

00  08  23  13    LMP  Okay,  Boh.     This  is  Jack.     I'm  going  to  he  moving 

into  the  presleep  checklist  here.    Are  there  any 
things  you  want  to  change  or  alter  in  that?  Are 
you  ready  for  the  waste  -  waste  stowage  vent  to 
he  closed? 

00  08  23  30    CC  Roger,  17.    We're  ready  for  the  vent  valve  to  go 

closed.    WASTE  STOWAGE  VEKT  to  CLOSED.     And  we 
have  no  anticipated  changes,  at  the  present  time, 
in  the  Flight  Plan,  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  I'm  just  looking  at  1-29  in  the  presleep 

checklist  and  -  wondering  if  there  was  anything 
there . 

CC  Stand  hy,  Jack. 

00  08  2h  k3    CC  Okay,  17-     For  antenna  management  tonight,  we'd 

like  you  to  select  OMNI  Bravo  at  the  current  time, 
and  stow  the  high-gain  antenna.     And  we'll  take 
care  of  managing  our  antennas  from  here  on. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  give  you  OMNI  Bravo  and  stow  the  high- 

gain. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  And,  Jack,  we  indeed  do  not  have  anything  to  add  to 

the  presleep  checklist  tonight. 

IMP  Okay. 

00  08  25  56    LMP  And  -  with  your  concurrence,  I'll  take  the  H  FANS 

all  to  AUTO  now. 


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CC  Stand  by. 

00  08  26  07    CC  Roger.     We're  ready  for  that.     All  to  AUTO. 

00  08  27  10    CC  Okay,  Jack.     I  guess  that  you  -  we're  not  quite 

sure  what  you  said  or  meant  there  -  or  what  -  what 
it  is.     In  the  Flight  Plan  itself,  we  want 

HEATERS  1  and  2  to  AUTO,  and  ve  want       FANS,  on 

tank  3  only,  to  AUTO.    They're  three  there  for 
tank  3. 

IMP  Okay.     You're  teaching  me  to  read  carefully  early, 

aren't  you? 

CC  We're  trying.    The  1  and  2  HEATERS  will  be  in  AUTO 

and  3  FAN  will  be  in  AUTO. 

00  08  27  U6    LMP  That's  the  way  it  is  now,  and  consider  the  fans 

have  been  cycled. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  According  to  the  checklist,  you  might  look  at  the 

third  line  on  1-29,  and  look  at  the        line  on  the 

Flight  Plan,  and  see  why  I  was  confused. 

CC  Roger.     We  were  just  dlscussing'whether  or  not 

there  was  a  fan  or  fans  in  each  tank. 

LMP  That  ought  to  keep  you  awake  this  morning. 

CC  Going  to  take  something. 


LMP 


What  I  was  really  trying  to  do.  Bob,  was  get  out 
of  chlorinating  the  potable  water,  but  you  wouldn't 
bite. 


CC  Apollo  IT,  Houston.     Over,  Jack. 

LMP  Go  ahead.     Over,  Bob. 

00  08  31  33    CO  Okay.    We're  going  to  give  you  a  little  high-gain 

antenna  practice  here.    We'd  like  to  pick  up  with 
the  high-gain  antenna  again  so  that  we  can  get  your 
PTC  or  can  watch  yotir  PTC  develop.    We'd  like  you 


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to  go  to  a  PITCH  of  hO  and  YAW  of  275  on  the 
HIGH  GAIN.  That's  kO,  PITCH:  275,  YAW;  and 
MANUAL  and  WIDE.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.     You  want  the  high  gain  selected,  I  presume. 

CC  That  helps,  yes. 

00  08  32  15    LMP  You  got  it. 

CC  Roger.     Our  apology. 

IMP  Oh,  I  don't  expect  that'll  be  the  last  time  you 

have  to  apologize.     I  think  we're  running  ahout 
even  now. 

LMP  You're  missing  quite  a  view,  Bob.     Sorry  you're 

not  here. 

CC  That  makes  two  of  us.     White  Just  said;  "That 

makes  three  of  us . " 

LMP  What  are  you  trying  to  tell  me? 

CC  Look  out. 

LMP  Who's  your  friend  off  on  your  right,  tonight? 

CC  Wally  Moon,  would  you  believe? 

LMP  Say  again? 

CC  Wally-  Moon. 

LMP  Oh,  a  Moon,  huh?    Why  don't  you  ask  him  what  he's 
reading  at  H^  tank  3  q.uantity? 

CC  Okay.     I'm  asking  him. 

IMP  In  percent. 

00  08  3^+  05    CC  Okay,  17.     On  tanks  3  of  H^,  we're  reading  8i+.38. 

00  08  3^  13    LMP  Okay,  it  looks  like  we're  reading  almost  the  same 

n  owadays . 

CC  Good. 


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LMP  I  thought  we  launched  a  little  bias,  "but  I  guess 

that's  gone  now.     We're  a  little  higher  than  that. 


00  08  36  09    CC  And,  17,  Houston.     We're  seeing  your  rates  are 

quite  low  enough  to  start  the  spinup  to  PTC. 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  see  if  we  can't  get  it  right  this  time. 

CMP  Houston,  IT- 

CC  Go  ahead,  IJ. 

CMP  Does  it  make  any  difference  with  the  plus  or  minus 

roll  there  with  the  -  now  that  you  are  going  to 
use  the  high  gain? 

CC  Okay.     Well,  the  Flight  Plan  says  minus  roll,  why 

don't  we  do  it  that  way? 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

00  08  38  59     CC  And  after  you  start  the  roll,  IT,  we'd  like  to  go 

hack  to  OMNI  Bravo  and  stow  the  high  gain. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  We  only  needed  the  high  gain  to  just  keep  a  good 

check  on  your  rates. 

CC  And,  17,  that  means  stow  the  high  gain  after  you  - 

after  the  startup.    We'd  like  to  watch  the  startup 
itself. 

CMP  Okay.     I  was  just  going  to  ask  you  when. 

00  08  k2  18    CC  Okay,  17.     We're  ready  for  high  gain  to  stow  and 

select  OMNI  Bravo. 

CMP  Okay. 

00  08  ^^9  35    CC  17,  Houston.     We  gather  you're  ready  for  sleep, 

almost.     One  thing  we'd  like  to  check  at  the  end 
here  is  your  0^  heater  configuration.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.     Go  ahead.  Boh. 

CC  Roger.     Can  you  give  us  your  0    heater  configura- 

tion? 


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CMP  Okay.     We've  got  1  and  2  in  AUTO,  and  3  is  OFI''. 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  those  per  the  Flight  Plan;   1  and 

2  to  OFF,  and  3  to  AUTO. 

00  08  50  09    CMP  Okay;  1  and  2  to  OFF  and  3  to  AUTO. 

CC  Okay.     And  do  you  have  a  final  change  or  update  on 

the  film  status  -  beyond  that  130  that  Jack  gave 
us? 

00  08  50  19    CMP  Stand  "by  1. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


00  08  58  03    CC  And,  17,  your  PTC  is  looking  real  good  so  far. 

CDR  Okay.     That  number  on  that  mag  is  still  130,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that.  Gene. 

CDR  And  Alfa  Alfa,  that  l6-millimeter  mag,  is  about 

25  percent  left. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that  as  well. 

CC  And  I  guess  as  soon  as  you  change  the  LiOH  canister, 

if  you  have  or  haven't,  and  charge  BATTERY  Bravo, 
then  we're  ready  for  you  to  sleep  at  your  leisure. 
Configuring  your  comm,  remember  the  SQUELCH,  ENABLE, 
and  the  VOICE,  OFF,  when  you  get  ready  to  go  to 
sleep. 

00  08  59  31    CC  Roger,  Apollo  IT-    We  copy  the  film  update,  and 

we're  ready  for  you  to  go  to  sleep  once  you've 
got  the  LiOH  canister  changed,  if  you  haven't. 
And  remember  also  the  charge  on  brady  -  BATTERY 
Bravo.     After  that,  it's  just  the  comm  configura- 
tion, SQUELCH,  ENABLE,  and  VOICE,  OFF,  when  you 
get  ready  to  go  to  sleep. 

CDR  Roger .     You  cut  in  and  out .     Stand  by .     We ' 11 

talk  to  you  in  a  minute. 

CC  Okay,  I  think  we're  losing  an  omni  here. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


GO  15  02  57    CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.     Good  morning. 

CDR  Hello,  Robert. 

CC  Glad  to  have  you  with  us  again.     You  guys  got  a 

good  night's  sleep,  we  think. 

CDR  Well,  I'll  tell  you,  it  was  (laughter)  looked 

forward  to. 

CDR  Give  us  a  few  minutes  here  and  we'll  -  get 

operational. 

CC  Roger.     Give  us  a  call  when  you're  ready  to  talk 

to  people. 

CDR  Okay . 

00  15  09  hh    CDR  Yes,  from  the  looks  of  things.  Boh,  down  there, 

it  looks  like  getting  off  last  night  was  a  good 
idea. 

CC  Got  a  new  CAP  COM  now,  Geno.     Why?     Looks  kind  of 

cloudy  down  there? 

CDR  Yes.     Hello,  Gordo.     How  you  doing?     Yes,  I'm 

looking  -  oh,  we're  prohahly  directly  over  -  just 
west  of  the  -  out  in  the  Pacific,  but  abeam  of  the 
bottom  third  of  South  America,  I  suppose.     And  I've 
got  North  America,  Mexico,  and  the  U.S.  on  the  top 
third  -  the  top  25  percent  of  the  Earth.     And  it 
looks  like  you've  got  cloud  cover  from  somewhere 
where  the  coast  bends  around  Corpus  right  on  north 
into  the  Great  Lakes  and  is  completely  out  Into 
the  Atlantic,  including  covering  Florida  out  there. 

CC  Roger.     I  can  verify  the  part  between  the  Cape  and 

H  ous  t  on ,  anyway . 

CDR  Yes,  the  Gulf  looks  like  it's  pretty  well  filled 

with  clouds.     Looks  pretty  thick  from  here. 

CC  Roger. 


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CDF  However,  if  you're  interested  in  going  to  South 

America,  the  whole  continent  looks  -  looks  pretty 
good.    A  few  clouds;  but,  for  the  most  part,  you 
can  see  the  entire  continent. 

CC  Roger.     Guess  it's  suDnnertime  down  there. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  -  we're  stirring  slowly.  We'll 

get  back  with  you  here. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  Gordo,  one  q_uestion.     How  does  the  spacecraft  look 

to  you?     I  didn't  hear  anything  all  night  long  as 
far  as  any  MASTER  ALARMs  or  anything. 

CC  I'm  getting  the  word  that  nothing  was  seen  here 

either.     It  looks  absolutely  super. 

CDR  Very  good. 

00  15  15  26    CDR  Okay,  Bob  -  or  Gordo,  I've  got        HEATERS  1  and  2, 

OFF,  now. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

00  15  l6  5U    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     I'm  looking  over  the  Flight  Plan 

today.     We'll  be  with  you  with  the  postsleep  check- 
list, and  primarily  it  looks  like  a  P23  day  for  Ron. 
And  what  we'd  primarily  like  to  do  is  spend  a  good 
part  of  that  time  getting  the  spacecraft  cleaned 
up,  reshuffled,  restowed  a  little  bit,  and  get  it 
in  order  for  the  next  few  days  ahead.     It  doesn't 
look  like  today's  that  big  of  a  day. 

CC  Okay.     Geno,  I  might  give  you  some  words  on  what 

we  have  in  mind  to  get  the  GET  back  in  sync  here, 
if  -  if  you  want  to  hear  those  while  you're  looking 
through  the  upcoming  hours. 

CDR  Yes,  why  don't  you  -  why  don't  you  pass  a  few  words 

on  that? 


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CC  Okay.     The  plan  we're  considering,  and  we're 

offering  it  to  you  now  for  your  opinion,  is  at 
65  hoiirs  GET,  we'll  update,  and  at  the  time  the 
clock  goes  to  65,  we'll  update  it  2  hours  and 
ho  minutes  to  67:^0.     And  we're  shaping  your  tra- 
jectory such  that  you'll  arrive  at  the  Moon  at  the 
same  time  G.m.t.   as  you  would  have  had  you  launched 
on  time.     In  other  words,  your  translunar  time  is 
2  hours  and  hO  minutes  less.     So  once  we  do  that, 
we'll  he  back  with  all  the  right  times  in  the  Flight 
Plan  without  any  updating.     And  the  one  thing  we 
think  of  is  that  your  next  day  will,  which  is  now 
a  16-hour  day,  will  shorten  to  a  13-hour  and 
20-minute  day-.     But  that's  about  the  only  real  ef- 
fect we  can  see.     How  does  that  sound? 


CDR  Yes,  we  -  we'll  get  to  the  Moon,  you  say,  the  same 

G.m.t.,  so  all  our  sunrise,  sunset,  lunar-orbit 
activities,  and  Sun  angle  at  landing  will  be  the 
same.     And  let  me  -  I'll  -  It  sounds  pretty  good, 
Gordo.     I  just  want  to  take  a  look  at  that  day  that 
you're  shortening  and  see  what  we're  doing  in  there. 

CC  Okay.     It  doesn't  cut  out  anything.     In  fact,  we 

picked  a  time  that's  pretty  much  dead  time  as  far 
as  the  Flight  Plan  goes.     Take  a  look,   and  we'll 
talk  about  it  later. 

CDR  Okay . 

IMP  Good  morning,  Gordy.     This  is  Jack. 

CC  Good  morning.  Jack. 

LMP  Let  me  fill  my  square  on  the  postsleep  checklist. 

I've  got  2i+030,  PRD. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  And  I  slept  in  and  out  -  probably  totaled  about 

h  hours  in  that  last  period.     But  I  feel  pretty 
good  in  spite  of  that,  and  expect  now  that  I've 
educated  myself  on  how  to  sleep,  that  it'll  pick 
up  the  next  time  around. 


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CC  Roger. 

IMP  No  medication  yet,  but  I'm  considering  a  couple 

of  aspirin.     I'll  let  you  know  if  I  take  them. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And,  fluids?    Let's  see,  I  guess  I've  had  two  of 

your  little  water -measurement- containers-full  so 
far,  plus  the  meal  I  had  in  my  pocket.     And  I'll 
catch  up  on  -  I  think  I'm  a  little  dehydrated. 
I'll  catch  up  on  fluids  with  "breakfast. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  And  my  meal  yesterday  was  the  meal  B  in  the  pocket. 

CC  Roger.     Meal  B. 

IMP  And  I  guess  consumables  update.     That's  mainly 

yours . 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  There's  plenty  there.     And  I'll  wait  for  your  words 

on  that.     And  the  watch  is  wound. 

CC  Roger.     Okay.     Got  the  consumables  update  numbers, 

if  you're  ready  to  copy. 

LMP  Not  quite,  Gordy.     I'll  give  you  a  buzz. 

CC  Okay.     No  hurry. 

00  15  22  ho    LMP  Okay.     The  CMPs  rad's,  1509- 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  15019.  15019. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     How  do  you  want  to  send  the 
consumable  -  consumables  information? 


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CC  We  were  just  discussing  that  here.     Used  to  -  in 

flights  gone  by,  there  was  a  place  in  the  Flight 
Plan,  a  little  form  to  fill  out.     But  we're  try- 
ing to  figure  out  if  there  is  such  a  place  in  the 
current  data  file.     Do  you  know  of  one? 

LMP  Well,  I'll  tell  you  what  I've  got.     I've  got  the 

consumables  curves,  and  if  there  are  any  major 
changes  to  those  curves,  I  guess  you  could  give 
them  to  me,  and  I'll  put  them  on  as  points. 

CC  There's  no   

CDR  Hey,  Jack. 

CC  -  -  changes  at  all. 

LMP  Okay.     And  why  don't  we  just  do  it  that  way  in  the 

future  in  case  there  is  anything.     And  that's  on 
page  l-i+5  and  subsequent  in  the  Flight  Plan 
Supplement . 

CC  Okay. 

IMP  Looks  like  you  took  good  care  of  my  space  -  my 

systems  last  night. 

CC  No  troubles  at  all. 

00  15  31  05    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    Your  friendly  medical  officer  up 

here  has  some  more  information  for  you.     CMP,  con- 
tinuing, had  about  3  hours  of  sleep,  had  -  three 
cans  of  fluid  -  of  water,  that  is.     And  he  ate 
everything  in  meal  B  but  the  fruitcake,  and  he 
didn't  use  the  brownies  and  the  beverage  in  meal  C. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  Okay.     And  continuing,  the  CDRs  PD  -  PRD  is  17019. 

He  had  3  hours  of  fair  sleep,  no  medication,  and 
1-1/2  cans  of  water,  and  one-half  a  sandwich.  The 
CMPs  sleep  was  3  hours.     And  I'll  try  to  get  more 
systematic  as  we  go  along  here. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  13/6 


CC  Jack,  we  are  assiiming  no  -  no  medication  on  the 

CMP.     Is  that  right? 


LMP 


That's  affirm.     We  haven't  gotten  that  kit  out  yet, 


CC  Okay. 

00  16  00  33    LMP  Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     Looks  like  the  windows  have 

cleared  up  pretty  well  in  PTC  from  the  -  ice 
crystals,  anyway,  that  were  on  window  -  window  1. 
The  hatch  window  still  seems  to  have  a  film  of 
something  on  it.     But,  otherwise,  they  look  pretty 
good. 

CC  Okay,  sounds  good.     Jack,  while  you're  there,  I 

might  try  -  we've  heen  talking  about  consumable 
updates  and  what  would  be  the  most  meaningful  way 
to  give  you  the  information.     As  a  trial,  for 
Ik  hours,  with  reference  to  the  charts  in  the  back 
of  the  book,  which  in  the  case  of  -  in  case  of  all 
of  them,  are  listed  in  percentages  except  the  RCS, 
which  is  in  pounds.     On  the  cryo  quantities,  when 
I  take  all  the  tank  percentages  and  plot  them,  it 
turns  out  that  there's  no  real  significant  differ- 
ence from  the  lines  that  are  plotted  on  either 
hydrogen  or  oxygen.     On  RCS,  you're  running  about 
3  percent  ahead  of  the  line.     And  if  that's  a  sat- 
isfactory way  to  put  it,  that's  the  way  we'll  give 
you  the  -  the  updates  rather  than  giving  you  every 
tank  percent  by  percent.  Over. 

LMP  Okay,  that's  good.    That's  outstanding. 

00  16  12  20    LMP  MARK.     Two  aspirin  for  the  LMP. 

CC  Roger,  LMP. 

CC  Jack,  next  time  the  Surgeon  would  like  a  mark  on 

each  individual  aspirin. 

LMP  Well,  I  gave  it  to  you  since  I  swallowed  them 

both  simultaneously. 


CC 


Roger. 


Tape  13/7 

LMP  I  knev  they  wanted  that,  Gordy,  and  that's  why  I 

only  gave  you  one . 

CC  Okay, 

LMP  Would  they  rather  have  them  go  down  one  at  a  time? 

00  16  ll;  06    CC  I'll  have  to  go  bach  to  the  "backroom  on  that. 

END  OF  TAPE 


Tape 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAMSCRIPTION 


00  16  hk  52    CC  17,  Houston.    We  see  the  optics  starting  to  stir 

there.     You  can  go  ahead  vith  a  P52,  but  before 
you  do  the  P23,  we  have  some  updates  to  it. 

CMP  Hey,  okay,  Gordo.     We'll  do  that. 

CC  17,  Houston.     Can  you  confirm  that  you  did  change 

the  LiOH  canister  before  going  to  sleep  last  night? 

CMP  Well,  we  can  confirm  that  we  didn't.     How  about 

that? 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  We'll  -  Thanks  -  thanks  for  reminding  us.  We'll 

try  that  first  thing  this  morning.     I  was  just 
getting  too  tired,  and  the  CO^  didn't  look  quite 

that  high  last  night,  so  I  -  - 
CC  Roger. 
CMP  -  -  I  let  it  go. 

CC  Okay,  that's  -  that's  fine.     We're  not  concerned 

about  being  late  with  it. 

00  16  1+6  22     CMP  Okay. 

00  16  53  15    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     That  looks  like  a  pretty  good  one 

that  time.     You  note  the  star  angle  difference? 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

CMP  Okay  (chuckle).     1  can't  see  squat  out  through  that 

telescope.  I  just  hope  it  lines  it  up  and  does  the 
right  thing.  Okay.  Those  are  the  torquing  angles, 
and  you  can  let  me  know  when  you  have  them. 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by. 


The  telescope  is  no  different  than  any  other  time. 
There  is  just  a  lot  of  reflection  from  the  lunar 
module.    And  even  though  everybody  said  that  he- 
fore,  you  don't  quite  believe  it  until  you  see  it 
yourself. 

Okay,  Ron.     You're  clear  to  torque  it. 
Okay.     We'll  torque  it  at  '?h  30. 
Okay. 

17,  Houston.     When  you  -  if  you  can  find  a  stenog- 
rapher, I  got  some  dictation,  some  pads  for  you 
and  also  a  Flight  Plan  update. 

Stand  by  1,  Gordon. 

Okay,  Gordy. 

P3T. 

Oh,  okay.     Stand  by.     Okay,  Ron's  ready  to  copy. 
P3T  pad's  first. 

Okay.     Okay,  the  P3T  block  data  for  35  hours. 
Well,  we've  got  35,  h5 ,  55,  65.     GET  ignition  of 
035:00.     DELTA-V^  is  5326,  minus  175,  08l:39.  For 

a  GET  of  0145:00,  7728,  minus  177,  08l:l8.     For  a 
GET  of  055:00,  5859,  minus  175,  105:30.     GET  of 
065:00,  1+703,  minus  175,  129:1+0. 

Okay,  I'll  read  that.     Let's  see,   35:00  at  532o, 
minus  175,  and  8l:39.     At  U5:00,  7728,  minus  177, 
and  8l:l8.     At  55:00,  it's  5859,  minus  175,  105:30. 
At  65:00,  it's  1+703,  minus  175,  and  129:1+0. 

Okay,  that's  correct.     I've  got  a  maneuver  pad  for 
you.     It's  a  flyby  maneuver  at  a  time  of  8I  hours, 
which  is  5  hours  prior  to  LOT.     This  is  required 
because  you're  presently  on  an  impacting  trajectory. 
And  this  is  assuming  you  wouldn't  do  midcourse  2. 
Midcourse  2  will  put  you  on  a  -  on  the  proper  tra- 
jectory.    If  you  can  get  a  maneuver  pad  out,  I'll 
give  it  to  you. 


Tape  llt/3 


LMP  Okay.     That's  in  work. 

00  17  02  23    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     This  is  17.     Ready  for  the  flyby 

pad. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  were  just  watching  your  roll  angle. 

You're  going  to  -  we're  going  to  be  updating  the 
optics  cal  attitude.     And  the  roll  will  be  loh, 
and  you're  coming  up  on  that.    Maybe  you  want  to 
stop  the  PTC  near  that  roll  angle. 

CMP  Hey,  that's  a  good  idea. 

LMP  Gordy  .  .  . 

IMP  Gordy,  did  you  read  Jack? 

CC  Loud  and  clesir.  Jack. 

LMP  I  can  take  the  pad,  if  you  want  to  while  Ron 

stops  PTC. 

CC  Okay.     Why  don't  I  give  you  the  update  to  the 

Flight  Plan,  since  that'll  give  you  the  new  attitude 
and  also  the  -  change  in  the  star  for  the  P23.  -Ai^d 
then  Ron  can  get  on  with  that.     The  pad  we  can  get 
after  that. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     Turn  to  17  hours  in  the  Flight  Plan,  page  l8. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     The  "VERB  1+9  maneuver  to  optics  cal  attitude" 

right  at  the  top  of  the  page.     Cross  out  the  at- 
titude n\jmbers  and  replace  them  with  "Roll  l6U, 
pitch  301,  and  yaw  3^+8  at  a  high-gain  pitch  angle 
of  minus  1+8  and  a  yaw  of  315  ■"  Over. 

LMP  Okay;  l61+,  301,  3hQ,  minus  1+8,  and  315- 

CC  That's  correct.     Now  go  down  a  few  lines  to  the 

sighting  attitude  at  -  one's  at  17  hours  and 
15  minutes.    And  cross  out  that  attitude  and  the 
high-gain  pitch  angle  and  change  to  a  "Roll  of 
196,  pitch  30U,  and  yaw  3I+8."     High-gain  pitch  is 
minus  61,  and  the  yaw  remains  the  same,  357.  Over. 


Tape 


IMP  Okay,  196»  30 1+,  3ii8,  minus  61. 

CC  That's  correct.     And  now,  on  the  first  star  of 

P23,  we're  going  to  change  the  star,  so  cross 
out  -  replace  the  NOUN  70  nuuabers  with  star  21. 
That  would  be  three  "balls  21.     And  delete  the 
NOUM  88  and  the  vector  numbers  there. 

00  IT  06  25    LMP  Okay,  start  21  and  no  NOUK  88s. 

CC  Right.     And  over  on  the  right  where  it  says 

"Merak,"  you  can  write  in  "Alphard. "     That's  what 
21  is. 

LMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     Now  down  on  the  next  pate,  at  I8  hours 

20  minutes,  where  it  says  "Optics  calibration 
attitude."    We  got  to  put  In  the  same  thing  as  - 
the  same  change  as  above.     We  want,  instead  of 
"175,  298,  330,"  change  that  to  "l6k,  301,  and 
3^48.     High  gain  of  minus  1+8  and  315."  Over. 

LMP  Okay,  l6k,  301,  3^+8,  minus  1+8,  315.  Over. 

CC  Okay.     Now,  about  10  lines  down,  delete  "Charge 

battery  A."    We're  going  to  leave  battery  A 
charged  for  a  while  longer,  since  we  used  up  so 
much  of  it  on  the  pad  last  night. 

LMP  Okay.     Delete  "Battery  charge  A,"  and  you  want  to 

leave  it  on  B. 

CC  Yes.     Right.     Flip  the  page.     Might  as  well  clean 

up  all  of  these  checklist  changes.     At  19  hours 
kO  minutes,  change  "Magazine  Kilo  Kilo"  to  "Mag- 
azine November  November." 

LMP  Okay.     That's  done. 

CC  And  then  skip  a  few  pages  to  2k  hours  and  30  minutes, 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  And  Just  above  the  "CSM  Systems  Checklist"  call- 

out  there,  write  in  "Charge  batterer  A." 


Tape  lU/5 


IMP  Okay,  I  got  you, 

CC  And  ve'll  "be  leaving  it  on  "battery  A  all  night 

long.     Okay,  that's  all  the  Flight  Plan  changes. 
I've  got  that  flyty  pad  when  you're  ready. 

LMP  Okay,  I'm  all  set. 

00  IT  09  12    CC  Okay,     Purpose  is  flyby,  SPS/G&N.     The  weight  is 

66839;  plus  1.21,  minus   .02  -  correction,  the  yaw 
trim  is  a  minus  0.12.     Ignition  time  is  081:17:21.03. 
NOlffl  81  is  a  plus  0091.1,  plus  020U.1,  plus  Oii59.3. 
Attitude  is  121,  153,  and  321,     Apogee  is  NA;  per- 
igee, plus  0021.2.     DELTA-V  total  of  0510.8,  1:17, 
0506.3.     Sextant  star:     26,  O96.5,  33.9.  Bore- 
sight  star  is  NA;  NOUK  6I,  plus  15-57,  minus  175-00; 
1099.9,  362.^3;  and  GET  of  0.05G  is  153:2U:11.  PTC 
align  stars  are  Sirius  and  Rigel;  256,  152,  069. 
Ullage  is  none.     And  for  remarks:     number  1  is 
"Burn  docked;"  number  2  assumes  PTC  KEFSMMAT: 
number  3,  LM  weight,  3628I;  and  number  h  is  "As- 
sumes no  Midcourse  2."  Over. 

00  17  12  1+5    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     You  read  that? 

CC  I  haven't  heard  anything  since  I  finished  the  pad, 

Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     I'll  push  the  other  button  then.  Okay, 

your  readback:     Flyby,  SPS/G&N;  66839;  plus  1.21, 
minus  0.12;  081:17:21.03;  plus  009I.I,  plus  020U.1, 
plus  01+59.3;  121,  153,  321;         is  NA,  plus  0021.0; 

0510.8,  1:17,  0506.3;  26,  096.5,  33.9-  Boresight 
star  is  NA;  plus  15-57;  minus  175.00;  1099-9, 
362.1+3;  153:2l+:ll.     Sirius  and  Rigel;  256,  152, 
069.    No  ullage.     Remarks:     1,  burn  docked;  2,  PTC 
REFSMMAT  assumed;  3,  LM  weight,  3628I;  and  h, 
assumes  no  midcourse  2. 

CC  Okay.     One  correction  on  perigee  of  NOUN  1+1*. 

That's  a  plus  0021.2. 

LMP  Okay;  0021.2  plus. 


Tape  lU/6 


CC  And  one  additional  remark.     This  results  in  a 

187-mile  perigee  -  perilune. 

IMP  Okay.     I  got  that. 

00  17  15  16     CC  Okay.     For  general  information,  we're  planning 

midcourse  2  tomorrow  at  about  35:30,  and  it 
should  be  about  10  feet  per  second. 


LMP 


Okay.  Strangely  enough,  that's  even  scheduled 
35:30. 


CC  Roger. 

CC  I  have  one  reminder  to  open  the  WASTE  STOWAGE 

VENT  valve  as  shown  on  the  -  at  I7  hours  there 


LMP  Oh,  okay.     We  were  just  going  back  to  clean  up. 

I  think  we  owe  you  a  LiOH  canister  change,  too. 

00  17  16  25     CC  Roger.     We  concur  with  changing  it. 

00  17  20  15     CMP  And,  Houston.     Apollo  17  will  maneuver  to  the 

optics  calibration  attitude  now. 

CO  Okeydoke . 

CMP  It's  funny  eating  potato  soup,  and  all  the  soup 

is  all  around  the  outside  of  the  bag.     And  you 
get  a  little  hole  right  down  through  the  middle 
of  it. 

CC  Hov  about  that? 

CMP  It's  just  like  in  one  g.     The  spoon  isn't  quite 

long  enough  to  reach  the  bottom  without  getting 
your  fingers  on  the  side  of  the  bowl. 

00  17  21  09     CC  Roger. 

00  17  2I4  11    LMP  Gordy,  I  don't  know  what  your  weather  is  like 

down  there,  but  from  here  it  looks  like  you're 
probably  overcast  today.     Might  even  have  a 
pretty  good  storm  going. 


Tape  l!+/T 


CC  Well»  it's  gray  and  cold  and  a  little  rain,  so 

your  -  your  cal  is  correct. 

IMP  Yes,  it  looks  like  Mexico,  in  general,  is  pretty 

nice,  although  there  is  a  band  of  east-west  trend- 
ing clouds  that  start  from  the  Gulf  of  California, 
cross  Sonora  and  probably  up  through  New  Mexico, 
and  over  into  Texas  as  far  aroimd  as  I  can  see. 
Southern  California  looks  like  it's  in  pretty 
good  shape  today,  but  northern  California  looks 
like  it's  probably  overcast.     And  a  major  system 
probably  associated  with  that  that  stretches  into 
the  northern  western  United  States.     But  a  band  of 
clear  weather  looks  like  it  stretches  from  Arizona 
right  on  up  through,  I  would  guess  it  -  through 
Colorado  and  Kansas  and  probably  into  the  Midwest 
pretty  well, 

CC  Roger.     You're  a  regular  human  weather  satellite. 

LMP  If  Ron  would  just  stop  his  maneuvers  I'd  tell  you 

some  more,  but  the  Earth  just  set  behind  the  LM. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  More  specifically,  it  set  behind  the  Rover,  which 

may  be  a  space  first.     Pretty  impressive  storm 
system  down  off  the  west  coast  of  Antarctica. 

00  17  26  27    CC  Roger. 

00  17  27  !+0    LMP  And,  Houston.     The  canister  has  been  changed. 

Number  3  is  in  A  as  per  the  earlier  Flight  Plan 
instructions. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Sorry  we  were  late,  but  we  got  a  little  tired 

last  night. 

00  17  28  57    CC  Jack,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  go  ahead  and  get 

that  WASTE  STOWAGE  VENT  open  now,  so  we  can  keep 
to  the  schedule  on  cabin  enrichment. 


LMP 


Okay;  Ron  is  getting  that.     Keep  nagging. 


Tape  lU/8 

00  IT  29  13    CC  Thank  you. 

00  IT  35  59    CMP  That  the  same  as  I  had  before? 

CMP  Hey,  that  looks  like  a  pretty  good  optics  cal 

right  there.     That's  three  times.     Okay.  No, 
that's  not  very  good. 

CC  Ron,  we're  copying  your  comments. 

CMP  Okay.     Think  we'll  use  that  one  there  for  the 

optics  cal. 

CC  Roger. 

00  IT  3T  OT    CMP  Okay.     Let's  go  to  the  old  sighting  attitude. 

Well,  let's  put  the  other  thing  in  there  first. 

00  IT  hi  OT    CMP  Yes.     That's  a  pretty  good  VERB  k9 .     1  got  the  - 

got  an  orange  Earth  in  the  sextant.     Let  me  put 
up  the  old  EMP  now.     If  you  all  don't  need  all 
that  light  in  there.  Jack,  I  could  sure  -  Like 
the  window  shade  might  help  a  little  "bit,  really. 
Wot  -  not  very  much.     Okay.     Address  30h ,  we 
want  06.     Address  305,  2h  kk;   306,  60  06  ENTER; 
30T  vas  T7.     Okay,  at  address  310,  we  want 
15  62  ENTER;  311,  we  want  a  52  05  ENTER;   330,  we'll 
VERB  30  37-     VERB  25  NOUIT  26  ENTER  1.  Okay. 
R-2  is  a  hk  ENTER.     R-3  is  a  ikO  -  5.     Okay,  ENTER 
that.     Now,  we're  ready  to  go  on  the  first  star 
here;  7  ENTER;  23  ENTER.     ...  we  don't  want  to 
do  an  optics  cal.     No,  we  don't  want  to  do  that. 
ENTER.     Okay,   first  star  is  21.     ENTER.     I  am 
going  to  use  the  ...   110  ENTER.     PROCEED.     Son  of 
a  giin.     Okay,  we  don't  want  to  do  the  l80  option, 
so  ENTER  that  one;  I9630  ...  getting  pretty  close. 
Okay.  PROCEED. 

LMP  . . .  mike  . . . 

00  IT  i+U  2T    CMP  Okay,  we're  CMC  OPTICS  ZERO'S  OFF  and  ...  Now 

let's  see  if  we  can  see  the  old  star  in  there. 


LMP 


Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     You  guys  did  a  good  job 
fixing  that  MAS  -  MASTER  ALARM  problem.     What  did 
you  do? 


Tape  1^4/9 


CC  Jack,  did  you  call? 

LMP  I  was  wondering  what  you  did  to  fix  the  MASTER 

ALARM  problem. 

CC  Let  me  check  and  see. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Yes,  I've  got  to  find  the  subsolar 

point.     A  little  bit  of  an  error  looks  like.  Let 
me  see,  we'll  fix  it  down  a  little  bit.  That 
really  jars  us  back,  doesn't  it? 

CC  Jack,  I  guess  all  we've  done  is  wish  it  away. 

Actually,  we  think  it's  still  there,  and  you  may  - 
you  may  get  them  here  later  after  the  waste  stow- 
age vent  -  Og  flow  gets  on  up. 

00  IT  h6  13    LMP  Okay,  but  those  were  associated  with  the  accumula- 

tor as  1  recall.     Yes,  the  random  ones  is  the 
ones  I  was  interested  in.     They  just  seemed  to 
stop.     Of  course,  we  haven't  been  moving  switches 
on  2,  but  we  were  getting  them  without  doing  that 
also. 

CMP  Okay,  there's  the  old  star.     Works  just  like  the 

simulator;  you  can't  see  the  star  when  it  goes 
down  in  the  Earth, 

CC  It's  still  being  worked  on.  Jack.    Though  we  don't 

have  any  real  concrete  story  to  give  you  on  it  yet. 

LMP  Okay,  it  seemed  to  be  pretty  quiet  last  night, 

so  that's  the  only  problem.     Okay.     Gene,  you 
want  to  give  me  CMC  FREE? 

00  IT  1+T  05     CDR  Okay. 

00  IT  ^9  ^2     CMP  Let's  see.     3T9,  okay.     That's  not  too  bad. 

There  it  is;  EMTER.     Release  23;  ENTER. 

00  IT  51  32     CMP  Okay. 

00  IT  53  05     CMP  Yes,  I  don't  know  what  -  what's  - 

00  IT  53  U2     CMP  Okay,  those  would  punch  a  hole  in  it. 


Tape  1I+/IO 


00  17  55  22    CMP  I  think  that's  five  on  that  star.     Do  you  concur 

that  that's  five  on  that  star,  Houston? 

CC  Stand  "by.     Let  me  check. 

00  17  55  38    CMP  I  think  it  was.     I'll  take  another  one  just  in 

case . 

00  17  56  15     CMP  Okay,  Gene.     CMC  AUTO. 

CDR  Roger. 


CMP 


Okay,  Betelgeuse.  All  right.  That's  all  right; 
don ' t  move . 


00  IT  57  11    CMP  20.     Okay.     Earth's  far  horizon;  25  ENTER.  Plus 

0271+5  ENTER.     Plus  99128;  28  ENTER.     Plus  12885  - 
1288  -  5  -  2885.     Okay.     Hit.     It's  okay;  want 
the  180  option,  no?     Computer  ...  Betelgeuse. 
Okay,  that's  Earth's  far  horizon. 

00  IT  58  30     CMP  Punch  a  hole  in  them.     Yes.     Good.     Okay,  as  soon 

as  we're  there  -  Okay.     Set  the  old  ...  at  the 
substellar  point.     Okay,  it's  the  far  horizon, 
the  double  line  is  down  in  the  -  down  in  the 
Earth.     Shaft  280;  okay.     Reach  up  a  little  hit 
here . 

00  17  59  55    CMP  Okay.     Didn't  do  such  a  hot  job  of  putting  them 

on  there.     You  want  to  go  to  CMC  FREE.  Okay. 
Give  it  a  flip  that  way  and  a  flip  thataway  and 
a  yaw  that  way,  two  yaws  that  way. 

00  18  01  h6     CMP  (Singing) 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  15/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRABSCRIPTION 


GO  18  03  09    SC  Oh!  ... 

SC  Yes .     That  was  a  good  . . . 

LMP  Gordy,  this  is  IMP. 

LMP  Hello,  Houston;  17.     Are  you  reading? 

CC  Go  ahead,  Jack. 

LMP  Yes,  you  got  any  news  today  -  to  read  up  to  us? 

CC  Well,  yes.     As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  have  a  little 

bit  made  up  here.     I  guess  along  the  personal  line, 
we  checked  with  Barbara  and  Jan  and  the  kids,  and 
they're  all  back  home  safe  and  sound  and  they  men- 
tioned that  they're  going  into  their  own  personal 
quarantine  period,  glued  to  the  squawk  box.  Over. 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  I  was  afraid  you  were  going  to  get  too  personal 

there,  for  a  minute.  (Laughter) 

CC  I'll  run  down  a  few  quick  summaries  of  this  morn- 

ing's news.     Former  President  Harry  Truman  has 
rallied  slightly,  despite  his  weakened  heart  and 
labored  breathing.     His  doctors  report  that  their 
main  worry  is  whether  his  heart  is  strong  enough 
to  withstand  the  strain,  the  physical  strain  of 
88  years.    Despite  the  slight  rally,  Truman's  con- 
dition is  still  considered  critical.     In  Paris, 
Henry  Kissinger  met  with  Hanoi's  Le  Due  Tho  for 
k  hours  yesterday  in  planned  secret  talks.  Paris 
newspapers  report  an  imminent  cease-fire ,  but 
neither  Kissinger  or  Tho  indicate  that  this  is 
true.     After  the  it-hour  talks,  Kissinger  shook 
hands;  and  ...  -  got  a  little  typo  error  here  - 
but  neither  representative  made  any  comment  con- 
cerning their  meeting.     At  Camp  David,  Maryland, 
President  Nixon's  press  secretary,  Ron  L.  Zlegler, 
said  that  Kissinger  and  Nixon  are  in  close  commu- 
nication by  cable  concerning  the  secret  peace 
talks.     But  Ziegler  declined  to  provide  more 


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information  about  progress  in  the  talks.  President 
Nixon  selected  Claude  S.  Brinegar ,  a  California 
oil  executive  and  a  doctor  of  economics,  to  be 
Secretary  of  Transportation  succeeding  John  A. 
Volpe.     Volpe  "will  become  the  U.S.  ambassador  to 
Italy.     Here's  one  concerning  last  night's  launch. 
Mrs.   Spiro  Agnew  reportedly  made  a  vish  on  a  falling 
star  just  before  the  delayed  launch  of  Apollo  IT. 
Sitting  beside  her  at  the  VIP  viewing  site  was 
Barbara  Cernan,  who  said  that  she  was  nervous  when 
the  lift-off  was  postponed.     She  added,  "But  Al  Bean 
was  there  with  me.     He  said  not  to  be  concerned." 
Mrs.  Cernan  was  accompanied  by  her  daughter,  Tracy, 
and  her  mother,  Mrs.  Jackie  Ashley.     Mrs.  Ron  Evans, 
who  saw  the  launch  with  her  children,  Jamie  and 
John,  said  that  she  was  never  worried  because 
everybody  knew  what  they  were  doing. 

SC  (Laughter) 

00  18  07  36    CDR  Good  summary,  Gordo.     ¥e  thank  you,  and  our  best 

wishes  for  the  return  to  health  of  Mr.  Truman. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Gordo,  we  were  figuring  up  here  that  we  probably 

launched  on  the  6th  of  December  in  Houston  and 
on  the  Tth  of  December  in  Florida. 

CC  That's  right.     You  called  it  right. 

CMP  Okay,  CMC  AUTO  there.  Gene,  please. 

SC  Oh,  boy. 

00  18  09  Ok    CMP  Okay,  let's  use  the  VERB  23,  ENTER.     Oh,  what  did 

I  do  there.     ENTER,  let's  see,  is  a  110.  There, 
okay.     VERB  25  -  ENTER.     Oh,  Gamma  Prime  Leonis. 
(Coughing)    Okay,  minus  8i+90  -  8U9OO,  I  mean; 
plus  I4O299,  plus  40299,  ENTER;  plus  3^176,  plus  - 
T6,  ENTER;  okay,  proceed.     202  ...  18,  okay.  There 
already.     ...  I  guess.     We'll  try  that  one  more 
time.     ...  CMC,  AUTO?     196306,  ... 

LMP  Gordy,  you  still  there? 

CMP  Okay;  that's  right. 


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CC  Go  ahead,  Jack. 

LMP  I  mentioned  to  Bob  yesterday  how  -  when  we  moved 

away  from  the  Earth  -  how  fragile  a  piece  of  hlue 
it  looked  to  he,  and  that  impression  certainly 
grows  the  farther  you  get  from  it .     I  wish  every- 
body could  have  a  chance  to  get  that  impression. 
Things  might  go  a  little  easier  for  us. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  Gene,    ...   CMC  FREE? 

CMP  (Singing)     ...  must  be  making  the  vector  worse  and 

worse  instead  of  better.      (Laughter)     Well,  it  was 
on  the  substellar  point  that  time  except  it  was 
halfway  through  the  Earth  almost.     Not  really. 

00  18  12  hi    CMP  Hey,  Gordy,  we  haven't  really  had  a  clear  and 

detailed  description  of  what  you  or  somebody  else 
saw  at  the  launch,  in  terms  of  the  lighting  around 
the  countryside,  the  state  of  the  flame,  and  how 
long  the  -  exhaust  was  under  the  S-IC.     Do  you 
have  anything  to  add  to  that? 

CC  Well,  I  can  give  you  my  feelings,  anyway.     It  was 

a  spectacular  sight,  and  no  doubt  about  it.  I'd 
say  the  level  of  illumination  would  have  made  it 
easy  to  -  to  read  a  newspaper  or  anything  like 
that  from  my  vantage  point  near  the  VAB.     The  - 
the  plume  itself  actually  looked  no  larger  or  -  or 
even  any  brighter,  really,  except  in  contrast, 
than  it  does  on  a  day  launch  by  comparison.     But  - 
well,  the  effect,  I  guess,  was  about  what  I  ex- 
pected just  trying  to  extrapolate  previous  launches 
into  a  nighttime  situation.     The  weather  was  very 
clear.     That  was  one  advantage  gained  by  delaying 
the  launch  the  2  hours  and  kO  minutes  that  you  did. 
By  that  time,  there  were  very  few  clouds  around  at 
all.     And  we  could  see  a  brilliant  flash  there 
when  the  first  stage  cut  off  and  the  second  stage 
ignited.     And  I  lost  you  visually  probably,  oh, 
4  to  5  minutes  into  the  second  stage ,  as  best  I 
can  remember.     Part  of  the  problem  was  the  bright- 
ness of  the  plume  during  the  first  stage,  it  kind 
of  burned  a  spot  on  my  eye;  and  so  then  I  was  - 
had  reduced  efficiency  at  looking  for  a  small 


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CMP 
CC 

00  18  15  26  CMP 


00  18  16  Ih  CC 
SC 
CC 

CMP 
CMP 


00  18  22  Ik  CMP 

CC 

CMP 

CMP 


point  of  light  from  there  on  out.     Stu's  here  with 
me  and  he  was  watching  it,  too.     I'll  see  if  he  has 
anything  to  add. 

Stu  who? 

He  said  after  that  comment  he  has  no  comment. 

(Laughter)     I'm  sorry,  Stu."     I  can't  believe  that; 
Stu  always  has  something  to  add.     (Singing)  Houston, 
in  case  you  just  noticed,  I  forgot  the  VERB  6? 
until  just  now.     Although,  in  reality,  all  we're 
trying  to  do  here  is  get  a  DELTA-H  measurement 
anyhow.    And,  Houston,  do  you  have  any  feel  yet 
for  what  the  DELTA-H  is  -  line  has  been? 

Stand  by,  Ron. 


Ron,  this  Is  Houston.     We're  not  going  to  be  able 
to  give  you  a  handle  on  the  DELTA-H  until  we  have 
a  chance  to  take  all  the  data  and  reduce  it  and 
work  it  around  a  little. 

Okay,  that's  mighty  fine. 

Okay,  Geno,  CMC  AUTO?    Let's  see  what's  on  this 
star  here.     Kalinan  [sic]  -  Menkalinan,  I  guess. 
Okay,  Earth  far  horizon;   23,   ENTER  120,  ENTER,  25 
ENTER     ...    (Coughing)     (Singing)     Plus  -  7073 
ENTER,  plus  7061+1+  ENTER.     Okay,  that  is  the  unit 
vector  of  the  star. 

Okay,  it's  a  l80  option  we  don't  want.     ...  the 
real  option.     (Laughter)     I  guess  they're  getting  - 
Houston,  you  must  be  getting  all  the  good  data 
without  the  high  gain,  huh? 

That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

Okay;  let's  ENTER  that. 

Okay,  Gene,  you  go  CMC  FREE  now?    Yes,  that's 
about  a  half  a  sextant  diameter  above  the  -  above 
the  horizon.     Substellar  point  looks  pretty  good, 
though. 


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00  18  25  51    CMP  Hey,  guys,  - 

00  18  30  5^     CMP  -  Yes,  not  yet. 

00  18  31  11    CMP  Yes,  it's  on  there. 

00  l8  36  i+T    CMP  30  ENTER  -  oops!     CMC  AUTO  ...     Now,  last  star. 

What  was  that?  I'm  going  to  go  hack  to  the  calibra- 
tion attitude. 

00  18  38  oh    CMP  Okay,  CMC  auto  engaged,  and  away  we  go. 

CMP  Hey,  we  ...  the  waste  water,  too  -  to  10  percent. 

00  l8  38  37    CMP  16U,  301,  and  3l8  -  that's  the  optics  calihration 

attitude  that  we  want  to  start  with.     Put  the  . . . 
line  of  sight  mark  on  star  22.     Also  the  optics  line 
of  sight,  with  optics  zero.     Let's  see,  I'll  ... 
the  optics,  I  guess  first. 

00  18  ii-5  ^+3    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  looks  like  optics  calibration  here 

is  89  995.     I  get  that  half  the  time  and  997  the 
rest.     So  (laughter)  we'll  use  995i  I  guess. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston,  you  ready  for  some  purges  and  dumps? 

CC  Let  me  make  sure  here.     We're  standing  by. 

LMP  Okay.     I'll  get  going  on  the  0^  purges  on  the  fuel 

cell. 

CC  Okay . 

00  18  h9  28    LMP  Well,  I  had  my  clock  on  the  wrong  scale.     Is  that 

about  2  minutes,  Houston? 

CC  That's  good.  Jack. 

CC  Did  you  copy  that.  Jack?     They  said  that  was  fine. 

LMP  Yes,  sir,  Stu;  I  copied  that.     How  are  you? 

CC  Okay ;  swinging . 

LMP  That's  good  to  hear. 


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CC 
LMP 


LMP 


LMP 

CC 
LMP 


Sure  am  enjoying  your  descriptions. 

Well,  if  I  could  get  Ron  off  his  -  work  with  the 
optics,  we'd  look  at  the  Earth  some  more.  But 
that  will  come.     Right  now  I'm  seeing  all  sorts 
of  little  ice  crystals  of  various  composition, 
(laughter)  that  are  moving  around,  and  every  one  of 
them  bounces  off  the  LM  that  I  can  see.     No,  none 
of  them  stick.     I  noticed  that  some  of  them  will  go 
into  a  corner  with  a  fairly  high  velocity  and  either 
he  turned  around  by  a  double  bounce,  or  just  get 
lodged  in  the  corner  and  have  very  low  velocity  when 
they  come  out. 


CC  Roger. 


Most  of  them  look  like  they  have  at  least  a  foot 
or  2  per  second. 


CC  Roger 
CC 


Hey,  Jack,  I  was  surprised  when  you  said  when  you 
got  Ron  off  the  optics.     Don't  tell  me  that  Ron  is 
going  to  let  you  look  through  his  optics. 

Oh,  heavens  no!     We  just  move  the  windows. 
(Laughter ) 


CC  (Laughter)  Okay. 

00  18  52  02    CMP  That's  for  sure. 


Stu,  apparently  you  get  -  do  get  some  particle/ 
particle  collisions,  because  some  of  the  trajec- 
tories are  back  towards  us. 

Okay;  we're  waiting  for  the  explanation  of  that. 

Well,  I  think  it's  because  the  particles  and  - 
some  of  them,  you  know,  are  bouncing  off  the  LM 
and  get  out  into  the  stream,  which  normally  would 
have  no  collisions.     How's  that?     You  can  say  it's 
not  very  good.     I  don't  care. 

00  18  53  20    CC  Got  to  use  tact  here. 

00  18  55  i+0    CC  You  can  terminate  the  purge  on  fuel  cell  3  -  0^. 


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CMP  Yes.     I  even  forgot  to  listen  for  the  ding  on  that 

one.     Thank  you. 

00  18  5T  58    CC  IT,  we'll  "be  having  a  conmunl cations  handover  to 

Honeysuckle  in  about  a  minute  and  a  half. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo. 

LMP  That's  great.     Next  time  I  look  at  the  Earth,  I'll 

see  vhat's  happening  in  Australia. 

00  19  00  51    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     We're  starting  our  waste  water 

dump. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  Wish  us  luck.     Wish  us  luck. 

CMP  Hey,  that  really  goes  out! 

CC  Can  you  give  us  POO  and  ACCEPT?     And  we'll  give  you 

a  new  state  vector. 

00  19  01  33    CMP  Prohably  need  one  after  all  those  ...     Okay,  you've 

got  POO  and  ACCEPT. 

CC  Roger. 

00  19  03  38    CC  Okay,  the  vector's  in  there.     It's  your  computer. 

00  19  03  kk    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     Thank  you. 

00  19  09  51    LMP  Houston,  you  going  to  want  to  cycle  some  film 

here? 

CC  That's  affirm.     We're  planning  on  it.     Let  me  make 

sure  they're  ready,  though,  before  you  do  it. 

LMP  Well,  I  didn't  want  to  bring  it  up,  but  you're 

about  -  20  minutes  late  on  your  cue. 

CC  You  must  have  missed  our  first  call. 

00  19  10  3h    LMP  I  probably  did. 

00  19  12  21    CC  Jack,  we're  ready  for  the  pan  and  mapping  camera 

film  cycling.     You  haven't  started  into  the  pro- 
cedure yet,  is  that  correct? 


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LMP  No,  not  yet. 


CC 


LMP 


CC 


Okay,  at  your  convenience,  we're  ready  to  -  watch 
you  do  it. 

Okay.     And  were  those  last  high  gain  -  I  guess 
they're  still  good,  huh?     You  want  the  high  gain 
on  it? 

Okay;  we'd  like  you  to  use  PITCH  at  minus  50  and 
YAW  320  and  acquire  the  high  gain. 


LMP  Okay,  will  do. 

CC  You  have  10  percent  waste  water  now.     You  can 

terminate  the  dump. 

00  19  Ih  12    LMP  Okay.     We're  just  ahout  there. 

00  19  15  07    CMP  Okay,  the  old  IMAGE  MOTION  is  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

00  19  15  13    LMP  DATA  SYSTEMS  are  going  ON.     AUX  TV  is  going  to 

SCIENTIFIC. 

CC  Jack,  we'd  like  AUTO  and  NARROW  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

00  19  15  38    LMP  There  you  go.  Okay? 

CC  Thank  you. 

00  19  15  52    CMP  Okay.     SM/AC  POWER  is  coming  ON.     MAPPING  CAMERA 

is  going  to  STANDBY;  talkback's  gray.     PAN  MODE  is 
verified  in  STANDBY.     PAN  CAMERA  MODE?    Yes.  Okay. 
PAN  CAMERA  is  going  to  POWER  -  now.     Barber  pole 

*  •  • 

CDR  Okay,  the  PAN  CAMERA  just  went  to  POWER.  Okay, 

Ron's  talking  to  you.     Didn't  know  that. 

CC  Roger. 

00  19  16  UO    CMP  PAN  CAMERA  SELF  TEST  has  gone  to  HEATERS. 

CDR  High  bit  rate.     Okay;  waiting  your  cue,  Gordy. 

CC  Okay,  stand  by. 


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CC 

Okay, 

Ron,  we're  ready  for  the  film  cycling. 

00 

19 

IT  ^5 

CMP 

Okay, 

MAPPING  Camera  is  going  OK. 

00 

19 

18  15 

CMP 

Okay, 

PAN  CAMERA.  SELF  TEST  is  going  to  SELF  TEST. 

That  makes  barterpole.     Okay,  I  forgot  to  time  it. 

yes. 

00 

19 

19  08 

CMP 

Okay, 

talkhack  went  gray  on  the  PAN  CAMERA. 

CC 

Roger 

00 

19 

19  27 

CMP 

Okay, 

PAH  CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF. 

00 

19 

19  5U 

CT^P 

Okay, 

MAPPING  CAMERA  is  going  OFF. 

00 

19 

20  3I+ 

CMP 

Okay. 

SM/AC  POWER  is  coming  OFF,  huh? 

LMP 

Okay, 

Houston.    Film  cycling  is  complete. 

CC 

Okay. 

It  looked  real  good  on  both  cameras. 

LMP 

Very 

good. 

00 

19 

23  U9 

LMP 

Okay , 

Gordy.     If  yo\ir  friends  there  on  your  left 

are  wondering  what  strange  sounds  they're  hearing, 
I  just  got  the  harness  on, 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  And,  then,  I  guess  if  you're  through  with  the 

high  gain,  I'll  go  back  to  OMNI  Bravo. 

CC  Okay.     We  concur  with  that  idea. 

LMP  And  if  I  could  ever  get  Ron  out  of  the  kitchen, 

we'd  get  into  PTC. 

CC  Jack,  you'll  be  glad  to  know  your  heart  is  beating 

normally.     We  have  a  good  signal. 

00  19  25  07    LMP  Just  so  long  as  it's  beating,  Gordy.  About 

20  hours  ago,  I  wasn't  so  sure. 

00  19  27  06    CDR  Gordo,  (cough)  we're  maneuvering  to  the  PTC  atti- 

tude now. 

CC  Okay. 


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00  19  29  20    CMP  Houston,  Apollo  1?.    Any  recommended  quads  for 

damping  the  PTC  rates? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.     We'll  give  it  to  you  in  a 

minute. 


CC  Ron,  we're  recommending  AB  for  damping  and  Bravo 

Delta  for  roll  spinup.     I'll  say  again.  Alpha 
Bravo  for  damping  and  Bravo  Delta  for  roll  spinup. 

CMP  Okay,  Robert,  and  welcome  back  aboard. 

CC  Roger,  sir. 


CItP       -    You  know,  this  eating  in  aero  g  is  not  so  bad  if 
you  keep  your  bags  right  side  up.     If  you  keep 
them  that  way,  you  get  the  right  perspective.  li 
sure  something  funny,  if  you  turn  the  bag  upside 
down,  and  it  still  doesn't  fall  out,  you  know. 

CC  Roger . 

00  19  31  hi    CMP  Having  a  little  peach  ambrosia  for  a  snack  here. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 


GO  19  51  52    CC  1T»  the  rates  are  looking  good.     They're  damped 

adeq^uately.     We're  ready  for  spinup. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob. 

00  19        23    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  in  PTC.     Or,  Bob,  I  guess  you're 

down  there  now. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

00  19  55  20     LMP  Bob,  did  you  ever  find  out  what  part  of  Antarctica 

we  were  seeing  at  various  Earth  orientations? 

CC  Jack,  I've  -  I  tried  that  this  afternoon,  and  I 

couldn't  get  hold  of  anybody,  and  I  looked  on  a 
map  for  a  while,  and  I  -  I'm  not  sure  where 
Little  America  was.     I  can't  truthfully  say  1  did 
it  -  get  it.     I'll  keep  looking  at  it. 

LMP  Okay.     I  -  at  any  rate,  it  looks  like  there's  a 

very  well-developed  front  coming  out  of  the  north- 
western portion  of  Antarctic  ice  shelf.     And  - 
and  it  -  let's  see  here.     Well,  stand  by  1. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Have  to  change  windows. 

00  19  58  25    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     That  front  looks  like  it  starts  and 

develops  as  a  small  -  it  -  it  actually  seems  to 
start  with  an  anticyclone  development  off  the 
coELst  of  Antarctica.     Moves  up  across  New  Zealand. 
Looks  like  the  South  Island  primarily,  a  little 
bit  of  the  North  Island  is  still  visible  and  into 
the  eastern  coast  of  Australia.     And  I'll  give 
you  a  spot  where  it  intersects  and  crosses  the 
whole  of  Australia.     However,  it  -  it  breaks  up 
and  is  not  very  well  formed,  once  it  gets  inland 
away  from  the  coast.     I  see  no  well-developed 
waves  on  it  at  this  time,  so  it's  hard  to  say  how 
strong  it  is.     There  might  be  one  developing  just 
to  the  south  of  New  Zealand  or  right  off  the  coast 
of  New  Zealand. 


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CC 
LMP 


CC 


CC 
LMP 

CC 


Roger.     I  copy  that.  Jack. 

There  at  least  is  some  sinusoidal  motion  or  ap- 
pearance to  the  front  ...     And  you'll  have  to  vait, 
"because  I  lost  it  again. 


CC  Roger. 

00  20  00  05    LMP  I  took  two  5  -  50-millimeter  pictures.     Mag  November 

November  is  on  132. 


Roger.  November  November  on  132.  Those  are 
pictures  of  the  -  - 


LMP  And  that  was  the  - 


CC 


Jack,  Houston.     Was  that  -  were  those  pictures  of 
those  fronts  you  are  talking  about? 

00  20  02  59    IMP  Bob,  I  got  our  orbital  map  out  now,  and  that  front 

is  going  off  across  to  the  coast  of  Australia  north 
of  Sidney  and  largely  a  little  south  of  Brisbane 
and  -  and  swings  across  the  whole  of  Australia  and 
seems  to  come  -  near  as  I  can  tell,  go  by  into  the 
Indian  Ocean  about  -  well,  where  the  Great  Sandy 
Desert  intersects  the  northwestern  coast  of 
Australia. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

00  20  07  02    CC  17,  I've  got  a  Flight  Plan  update  here. 

LMP  Stand  by,  please. 

Roger.     It's  just  a  short  one.     One  item  to  change. 

Well,  if  you  saw  my  hands  right  now  (laughter), 
you'd  know  why  I  said  wait  1. 

Understand.     I'm  Just  -  Just  waiting  for  your  call. 
Just  didn't  want  you  to  think  we're  going  to  give 
you  a  whole  rafter  of  it. 


LMP 


Oh,  we  know  you  wouldn't  do  that. 


Tape  16/3 


CC  If  you're  eating.  Jack,  just  go  ahead  and  eat. 

This  is  nothing  that  can  -  we  can  Just  wait,  and 
any  time,  just  go  ahead. 

LMP  Yes,  I'm  not  panicking. 

00  20  09  00    LMP  Okay,  Bob,     Go  with  the  update,  and  LM/CM  DELTA-P 

at  20  ...  09. 

CC  Want  you  to  know.  Jack,  we  just  cut  out  by  the 

antenna  switching.    Say  again  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P. 

LMP  Okay,  0.6  at  20  plus  09. 

CC  Roger.     Okay.     My  update  is  just  simply  on  the 

"botton  of  page  3-23  at  2300  hours  in  the  Flight 
Plan  or  23  hours  in  the  Flight  Plan.  "WASTE 
STOWAGE  VENT  valve,  CLOSED."    Just  delete  that 
one,  and  move  it  over  to  2l+:30,     That's  "becatise 
you  got  started  late  on  that. 

LMP  Okay.     You  could've  just  said,  move  it. 

CC  Okay.    Just  change  it  down  to  2i+:30. 

LMP  2l+:30. 

00  20  11  U8    LMP  Okay.     Bob  -  about  revision  one  on  previous 

discussion  of  the  weather  around  Australia.  That 
front  does  cross.     Probably  Brisbane  is  probably 
cloudy.     It  does  cross  about  that  area,  and  -  how- 
ever, there  is  a  bank  of  clouds  that  runs  off  of 
it  down  the  coastline.     So  Sidney  is  either  cloudy 
or  has  some  pretty  nice  clouds  off  -  off  shore. 
And  the  remnants  of  the  front  as  it  dissipates  in 
the  hinterland  of  Australia  dies  out  at  about  the 
Great  Sandy  Desert,  and  there  is  not  a  good  indica- 
tion that  it  crosses  into  the  Ind  -  Indian  Ocean. 
But  we're  getting  over  near  the  LM,  axid  that's  a 
little  hard  to  tell. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Now,  it  -  more  -  looks  more  and  more  like  the 

cyclone  circulation  developing  right  over  the  top 
of  New  Zealand;  the  South  Island,  I  think.  And 
now  I'm  looking  with  the  binoc,  and  as  much  at 


anticyclone  circulation  is  centered  on  the  ice 
shelf.     And  I  think  that  -  well,  I  Just  don't 
knov.     I  think  that's  the  Ross  Ice  Shelf,  but  I'm 
not  siire,  off  Antarctic.     And  the  clouds  from  that 
circulation  do  extend  over  the  ice  shelf  and  barely 
into  the  Antarctic  con  -  continent. 

Roger,  Jack. 

Now  to  the  north  of  Antarctica.     Let's  see  now. 
I  ought  to  give  you  a  better  orientation  than  that. 
But,  anyway,  there  is  a  large  cyclone  circulation 
pattern  that  has  its  southern  extremity  right  on 
the  edge  of  the  ice  shelf.    And  that  -  that  is 
east  by  20  or  30  degrees  of  longitude  of  the  front 
that  I  just  was  discussing.     By  the  way,  that  front 
intersects  Antarctica. 

Roger,  Jack. 

Between  New  Zealand  and  Australia,  the  front  I  was 
discussing  previously  has  some  fairly  strong  trans- 
verse cloud  patterns.     It's  hard  to  say  whether 
they're  high  cirrus  or  not.     But  the  clear  area  to 
the  south  of  the  front  suggests  that  maybe  the  Jet 
stream  is  roughly  paralleling  that  front  in  that 
area. 

Roger.     I'd  have  to  look  up  and  see  -  - 
If  I  had  to  guess,  I'd  - 

-  -  if  they  do  have  any  Jet  stream  down  there 
right  now. 

I  -  if  I  had  to  guess,  if  you  were  flying  -  west 
from  Sidney  this  afternoon,  you'd  have  a  pretty 
strong  tailwind  behind  you.  Bob. 

Roger. 

Let's  see,  did  I  get  that  right? 
Would  you  believe  a  headwind? 


Okay.     I'll  believe  that. 


Tape  16/5 


LMP  But  the  bulk  of  Australia  is  very  clear,  all  the 

south  ajid  the  north.     It's  Just  that  one  line  of  - 
of  clouds  that  crosses  the  center  section. 

CC  Roger. 

00  20  18  U5    LMP  That  put  all  the  major  cities  of  the  south,  Perth 

and  Adelaide,  at  least,  and  Melbourne,  certainly 
in  the  clear.  And  in  the  North  Darwin,  in  those 
areas,  are  very  nicely  clear  today. 

CC  Roger.     I  hope  we  can  get  this  out  to  them  and 

let  them  know  that  you're  watching  and  tell  them 
how  good  the  weather  is. 

IMP  Oh,  that's  all  right.     I'm  just  having  ftm.  Bob. 

CC  Understand.     I  imagine  they'd  appreciate  it  though. 

00  20  3^  06    LMP  Bob,  I  tried  to  pick  out  the  Hawaiian  Islands  on 

that  last  little  turn  here  through  window  5 .  And 
I  can't  say  that  I  did.     I  think  I've  got  them  - 
the  area  spotted.     It  looks  like  they  might  be 
under  some  fairly  heavy  cloud  cover  today.     I  do 
not  see  the  islands.     I'm  not  sure  I  could,  if  it 
was  clear. 

CC  Roger.     Hey,  Jack,  I  got  some  answers  to  your 

question  from  last  night  on  where  Little  America 
is  with  respect  to  -  on  Antarctica. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  There's  a  -  in den  -  Indentation  that  looks  like  a 

gulf  that's  called  the  Ross  Sea,  and  on  the  north- 
west edge  of  the  Ross  Sea  is  Little  America,  That's 
the  location  of  it. 

LMP  Okay.     And  that  would  be  the  coast  of  Antarctica 

that  sort  of  faces  New  Zealand  and  Australia.  Is 
that  correct? 

CC  Negative.     According  to  the  map  I've  got,  it's  - 

the  Ross  Sea  looks  like  it  would  be  more  facing  up 
towards  the  South  America  area.     It's  actually  kind 
of  facing  up  sort  of  the  middle  between  Australia 
and  South  America,  Jack. 


Tape  16/6 


IMP  Okay,  Bob.     You  cut  out,  and  I  presume  you  meant 

that  -  the  Ross  Sea  was  facing  north  -  sort  of 
the  Pacific  between  South  America  and  Australia? 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.     It's  a  very  sharp  in- 

dentation or  sea  or  gulf  onto  the  Antarctic. 

IMP  Okay.     I  think  I  know  the  area  you  mean,  and  I'll 

check  it  out  again  when  it  comes  "by. 

CC  Okay.     That's  Little  America  on  that  west-northwest 

edge  of  that  Ross  Sea.  That's  where  Little  America 
is . 

LMP  Yes,  all  that  -  those  names  are  familiar.     I  just 

had  forgotten  my  geography.     I'll  see  if  I  can 
recognize  them. 

00  20  50  13    LMP  Okay,  Bob,  cheeking  on  the  Ross  Sea,  and  if  I've 

got  her  pegged  right,  it's  got  a  fair  amount  of 
open  water  in  it  this  time  of  year. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Although  it's  completely  surrounded,  I  think, 

completely  surrounded,  I  think  by  portions  of  the 
icepack.     And  off  to  the  west  of  there,  it  looks 
like  there's  an  area  that  might  be  -  clear  of 
snow,  and  -  does  my  memory  serve  me  correctly, 
that  that's  where  McMurdo  Sound  is,  and  some  of 
the  dry  valleys? 

CC  I  believe  so.     That's  the  Little  America  area 

right  now,  all  that  general  vicinity.  Jack. 


LMP 


Okay.     It  looks  like  the  prime  recovery  area  and 
the  Samoa  Island  region  is  clear,  and  my  guess 
would  be  from  the  fairly  subdued  zero  phase  point, 
that  they  might  have  fairly  nice  seas  out  there. 
The  boys  on  the  Ticonderoga  are  probably  enjoying 
themselves  immensely,  I  hope. 


CC  Roger. 


Tape  16/7 


IMP  Indonesia  looks  like  it's  having  a  nice  day,  with 

the  possible  exception  of  the  region  over  just 
north  of  Australia.    New  Guinea  and  that  area 
they  -  some  clouds  in  there.     I  can't  tell  whether 
they  are  high  or  low  clouds  though.     They  look  like 
they're  probably  fairly  high  clouds.     But  north  of 
New  Guinea,  there's  a  strong  concentration  of 
clouds.     Although  small,  it  looks  fairly  dense  like 
there  might  be  a  little  tropical  depression  in  that 
area. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  The  folks  in  Carnarvon  ought  to  be  enjoying  a  very- 

nice  day. 

00  20  53  31    IMP  I've  been  trying  to  spot  tropical  storm  Teresa, 

which  is  -  a  couple  of  days  ago  was  in  the 
Philippines.     But  I  can't  -  I  don't  think  I  quite 
have  that  visible  to  me  right  now. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Say,  you  might  want  to  put  something 

in  the  back  of  your  mind  here  a  minute.    We  made  a 
run  of  the  DSE  recording  just  now  of  the  TLI  to 
get  an  idea  of  the  quality  of  the  DSE  recording, 
and  Gene  came  through  loud  and  clear.     Ron  was 
very  weak  and  almost  unreadable,  and  we  never 
caught  you.  Jack,  in  there.     We  don't  -  maybe  you 
weren't  saying  anything  during  TLI,  but  we  never 
did  catch  anything  you  said. 


LMP 


Okay.     I  don't  recall  talking  too  much  during  TLI. 


CC  Roger.     Understand.     Now  Gene  -  Gene  came  through 

real  loud  and  clear.     So  whatever  technique  he 
was  using  went  on  that  tape  real  well. 

00  20  55  ^8    CC  Hey,  Jack;  Houston. 

LMP  Hello. 

CC  Hey,  Jack.     Just  a  couple  more  comments  on  that 

DSE.     I  think,  as  you  well  know,  it's  very  critical 
on  the  position  of  your  -  of  your  boom  there,  and 
those  axeas  that  you're  critical  in,  why,  make  sure 
that  you've  -  you've  really  got  those  beauties  up 
or  you're  talking  right  in  -  right  into  it.  And 


this  -  this  really  makes  a  difference,  because 
the  DSE  -  The  volume  is  -  is  fairly  low,   and  if 
you're  muddled  just  the  least  hit,  why,  it  -  it's 
going  to  be  difficult  to  pick  it  up.     So  talk 
slow,  and  -  and  get  right  up  next  to  the  mike, 
because  I  know  you  -  you're  doing  it.     Just  some 
voices  come  across  a  little  better  than  others. 

Roger,  Stu.     Thanks  for  the  comments.     As  a  matter 
of  fact,  you  probably  called  it  just  right.  I 
think  during  -  once  I  got  the  helmet  off,  I  lessened 
up  my  chinstrap,  and  my  mike  booms  had  moved  away 
from  my  mouth  some.     And  I'll  keep  that  in  mind. 
Thanks  for  the  reminder. 

Yes.     It's  -  that's  probably  the  most  critical 
item  is  that  -  is  the  position  of  those,  and  this 
has  been  true  of  -  in  the  past,  and  it  just  really 
makes  a  difference  in  -  in  that  -    being  able  to 
pick  up  the  data  off  the  voice. 

Roger,     I've  -  Ron  and  I  did  some  experimentation 
with  that  in  the  chamber,  and  couldn't  agree  more. 
But  I  sometimes  don't  remember  it.     Thank  you. 

Well,  Stu,  I  just  -  - 

I  -  I  ~ 

  thought  I'd  - 

Okay.     Go  ahead,  Stu. 

No,  I  was  saying  I  was  -  I'm  sure  you  -  you're 
aware  of  that,  but  I  think  the  fact  that  the  vol- 
ume is  -  is  down  just  accentuates  the  -  the  problem. 

Okay.     Gene  had  something  he  wanted  to  ask  you. 

Stu,  I  -  I  just  thought  you'd  like  to  be  aware  of 
it,  as  much  time  as  we've  all  spent  down  at  the 
cape,  probably  May  is  one  of  the  nicest  months 
down  there.     However,  having  had  the  opportimity 
to  -  to  be  up  here  during  May,  I  find  out  that  it's 
not  nearly  as  nice  up  here. 


Tape  16/9 

CC  Okay . 

CDR  And  I'd  like  to  -  to  thank  all  my  friends  for  that, 

00  20  58  Ok     CC  Okay. 

END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  lT/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


00  21  10  2h    IMP  Bob,  you  with  me? 

CC  Roger.     We  wouldn't  go  away.  Jack,     We're  listening. 

Did  you  call? 

LMP  Well,  I  just  -  Yes,  I  almost  lost  a  pass  here,  and 

just  a  couple  more  words  about  Australia.     As  a  - 
as  a  general  landmass ,  it's  red.     Very  strong  red 
hues,  except  for  the  north  and  eastern  coasts, 
where  that  red  gradually  merges  into  a  greenish- 
gray.     It's  as  -  as  red  as  portions  of  -  of  northern 
Africa  appeared  to  "be  yesterday. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Very  striking  color.     It  would  be  more  of  an  orange- 

red,  really,  with  brown  subduing  it.     It's  not  - 
obviously  not  crimson  or  anything  like  that . 

CC  You  think  it's  a  function  of  Sun  angle,  Jack,  or 

is  it  just  -  just  a  red  like  we  see  out  in  New 
Mexico  area  sometimes  -  some  of  the  areas? 

LMP  Yes.     No,  it's  not  Sun  angle,  because  that'll  hold 

a  good  red  color  right  -  right  in  towards  sunset 
or  sunrise.     It's  -  it's  due  primarily,  I'm  sure, 
like  most  desert  areas,  to  the  oxidation  of  the 
iron-bearing  minerals  in  the  sands  and  rocks  in 
those  regions. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  Getting  limonite  and  hematite.     Little  geology 

thrown  in  there.  Bob.  Sorry. 

CC  That's  all  right.     Got  to  keep  you  warmed  up  for 

the  next  couple  of  days. 

LMP  Well,  I  think  the  Flight  Plan  will  probably  keep 

me  warmed  up,  too. 

CC  Roger.     We  thought  that  time  around  T&D  was  juyt 

outstanding. 


Tape  lT/2 


CDR  Hey,  Bob.     We  -  I  think  we've  pretty  well  got 

impressions  from  you  down  there  on  that  -  on  that 
night  launch.     I  might  give  you  a  few  of  mine. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Gene. 

00  21  13  ho     CC  17,  Houston.     Are  you  there?     You're  right  on  the 

edge,  if  you  read  me.     We're  getting  a  lot  -  You're 
right  on  the  edge,  if  you  read  me.     We're  getting 
a  lot  of  static.     If  you'll  just  hang  on  a  minute, 
we'll  "be  hack  into  some  calm  air. 

CC  Gene,  Houston.     Go  ahead. 

00  21  1^  5^     CC  17,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  We're  just  standing  by  for  your  comments  you 

wanted  to  make.     I  think  we  lost  comm  there  a 
minute.     We're  back  with  you. 

00  21  15  0  5     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     The  entire  boost  itself  was  not  unlike 

what  you've  heard  and  what  Stu  down  there  under- 
stands from  the  physical  cues,  and  what  have  you. 
But  the  significant  part  of  going  at  night  is  that 
as  soon  as  we  did  have  ignition  down  there  in  the 
bottom  of  the  S-IC  stack  -  even  though  I  only  have 
a  little  slit  out  of  -  out  of  the  rendezvous  win- 
dow here,  and  Ron  doesn't  have  much  of  a  hole  in 
the  boost  protective  cover  out  of  the  hatch  window, 
we  could  definitely  confirm  ignition  because  we 
could  see  the  reflected  light  on  out  through  in 
front  of  us.     It  was  by  no  means  blinding,  of 
course;  we  had  the  cockpit  pretty  well  lit  up. 
We  -  as  soon  as  we  lifted  off,  that  light  immedi- 
ately went  behind  us     We  came  into  just  S-IC 
staging,  and  I  had  an  opportunity  to  say,  "l  told 
you  so,"  to  Jack  and  Ron.     It  was  just  like  the 
great  train  wrecks  of  the  past.     I  definitely 
could  see  the  S-II  ignite;  and,  then,  of  course, 
the  -  I  could  see  the  significance  of  the  reflec- 
tion through  the  window,  besides  all  the  other 
cues  we  had  for  ignition,  very  much  like  the  S-IC 
lit  up  the  windows  on  the  stack.     Tower  jett  was 
pretty  spectacular.     I  could  see  -  the  entire  boost 
protective  cover  and  some  flames  from  somewhere  - 
I'm  not  sure  -  maybe  it  was  through  the  hole  in 


Tape  17/ 3 


the  windows  -  but  I  could  definitely  see  it.  Of 
course,  it  disappeared  in  short  order.     When  the 
S-II  shut  down,  the  delay  time  between  shutdown 
there  and  the  S-IVB  igniting,  the  entire  -  the 
entire  flame  overtook  us,  and  we  literally  through  - 
flew  through  the  S-II  flame  when  the  S-IVB  ignited, 
if  you  can  imagine  that.     It's  very  similar  to  the 
Titan  staging,  where  you  actually  fly  through  tne 
fireball  on  the  S-II.     And  that's  something  you 
never  see  -  none  of  those  things  you  ever  see  quite 
that  way  in  daylight.     On  the  S-IV,  I  could  see  - 
Of  course,  once  we  got  going,  I  couldn't  see  any 
light  from  that  plume  again ,  but  we  could  see  the 
APS  firing  all  the  way  through  the  burn.     And  once 
we  got  in  orbit,  as  other  guys  have  seen,  you 
could  see  the  APS  firing  at  night  without  any  dif- 
ficulty.    One  of  the  most  significant  things  about 
TLI  is  the  fact  that  we,  of  course,  started  at 
night  and  flew  right  on  up  and  through  a  sunrise, 
which  in  itself  was  a  pretty  spectacular  thing. 
But,  when  you  do  it  during  a  TLI  burn,  it  even 
adds  a  little  bit  of  momentum  to  your  effort. 

00  21  l8  25     CC  Roger,  Gene.     Any  comment  you  might  make  on  the 

possibility  of  picking  up  your  yaw,  if  you'd  lost 
your  platform  at  that  time  -  remember  the  discus- 
sion we  had  about  the  yaw  in  the  late  -  like  a 
Mode  IV  or  something  like  that? 

CDR  Yes,  Bob.     I  not  only  will  comment  -  I  was  aware 

of  it,  and  I  was  looking  for  it.     And  during  parts 
of  the  S-II  and  parts  of  the  S-IVB  burn,  I  even 
turned  the  lights  down  in  the  cockpit  -  in  hopes 
that  I  could  see  stars  out  there;  but  I  could  not 
make  out  a  one.     Ron,  I  think,  may  have  saw  Saturn 
out  the  overhead  hatch;  but  looking  through  the 
rendezvous  window,  during  a  boost  phase  and  during 
a  time-critical  phase  like  a  Mode  II  or  Mode  IV, 
I  am  very  much  afraid  that  we  would  not  have  been 
able  to  pick  up  that  reference. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  As  I  remember  it,  as  low  as  1  had  the  interior 

lights  there  for  a  period  of  time  -  and  I  didn't 
want  to  keep  them  that  low,  of  course  -  to  see 
if  I  could  get  adapted  very  fast  because  we  were 


Tape  17/1+ 


in  a  dynamic  phase  of  the  hurn.     But  my  window  just 
gave  me  a  very  deep  purplish  hue,  a  hue  of  which  I 
could  not,  literally,  see  through  to  look  to  see 
any  stars  at  all.     Now,  that  may  have  been  due  to 
the  very  low  intensity  of  our  interior  flood  lights. 

00  21  19  53    CC  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP  Bob,  this  is  Jack.     A  little  lay  impression  there. 

I  think  I  -  saw  just  about  everything  Gene  was 
talking  about  -  as  far  as  his  description  -  and 
felt  like  it  was  -  although  everything  was  an 
amazing  experience,  each  one  in  Itself,  after  each 
one  was  over,  you  could  think  back  and  say,  "Yes, 
that's  what  other  guys  said  it  was  like."     The  old 
Saturn  V  has  got  to  be  a  pretty  consistently  per- 
forming vehicle.     But  -  with  the  added  night-time 
contrast ,  I  think  it  made  it  probably  the  best 
ride  any  three  guys  have  ever  had. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  Bob,  I  might  add,  that  the  S-I  was,  as  usual, 

pretty  shakey  on  lift-off.     I  saw  all  the  maneu- 
vers as  I  called  them  out  -  the  yaw  and  small  re- 
verse roll.     Going  through  max  q,  I  got  up  to 
25  percent;  but  my  yaw  attitude  error  was  zero  and 
my  pitch  attitude  error  probably  wasn't  even  at  - 
oh,  certainly  less  than  2  degrees.     After  max  q, 
she  smoothed  out  by  comparison  quite  a  bit ;  and 
the  S-II  was  a  very  quiet  ride,  a  very  smooth  ride. 
However,  you  are  always  aware,  due  to  just  a  little 
rumbling  out  in  the  S-IVB,  that  she  was  still  burn- 
ing for  you.     The  S-IVB,  I  think,  was  just  a  con- 
tinually -  rumble  but  smooth  or  consistent  ride, 
all  the  way  through  TLI . 

CC  .Roger. 

00  21  22  06    LMP  Gee!     I  think  one  of  the  big  things  that  impressed 

me  was  the  -  how  instantaneous  the  decelerations 
were  of  each  one  of  the  boosters  when  they  cut  off. 
That  included  the  S-IV  TLI  cut-off.     No  physical 
appreciation  of  tailoff  at  all. 

LMP  And,  Bob,  from  my  rendez  -  from  the  right-hand 

rendezvous  window  when  the  tower  jett  occurred, 
there  seemed  to  be  a  lot  of  burning  particles 


Tape  17/5 


streaming  away  from  it.     I  could  not  see  -  did  not 
notice  or  remember  seeing  the  actual  cover  or  tower 
itself;  Taut  I  -  we  were  inside  the  cone  of  the  burn 
and  with  a  lot  of  streaming.     It  looked  very  much 
like  a  sky  rocket  -  portion  of  one  at  any  rate. 
Reminded  me  of  the  Fourth  of  July  out  in  Silver 
City  a  few  years  ago. 

CC  Roger.     Say,  any  time  you  got  your  Flight  Plan 

handy,  I've  got  a  discussion  here  I'd  like  to  run 
through  with  you  on  the  -  how  we're  going  to  re- 
cover those  2  hours  and  ko  minutes  from  the  launch 
delay  -  and  you'll  need  to  copy  it  into  the  Flight 
Plan.     And  then  just  wanted  -  want  you  to  be  ad- 
vised, we're  not  happy  with  the  PTC.     V/e  get  a  half 
angle  of  about  IT  degrees;  and  so  sometime  after  the 
P52  coming  up  at  23:00,  we'll  want  to  do  another 
PTC,  or  initiate  PTC  again. 

00  21  2k  05     cm  Well,  that  was  the  commander  who  initiated  PTC, 

and  I've  already  heard  about  that. 

CMP  (Laughter)     You  bet  he  has.     Okay.     We've  got  the 

Flight  Plan  here.  Bob,     Which  part  of  it  are  you 
talking  about   . . .? 

00  21  2k  IT     CC  Well,  let's  just  talk  some  words  here  for  a  minute, 

and  then  I'll  go  through  some  specifics  that  you 
can  just  write  down  on  a  page  because  you  don't 
want  to  do  it  until  a  little  later.     Okay,  what 
we're  going  to  set  up  here  -  You  will  arrive  at 
lunar  orbit  at  the  same  GMT  time.     Tlie  landing 
Sun  angle  -  S\in  elevation  angle  -  and  the  camera 
settings  and  everything  will  be  -unchanged  when  you 
get  to  lunar  orbit.     To  compensate  for  the  2  hour 
ko  minute  late  launch,  we're  going  to  hack  2  hours 
and  1*0  minutes  out  of  the  timeline.     And  we're 
going  to  -  They'll  be  out  of  the  TLC  timeline  -  and 
we're  going  to  do  it  in  two  groups.     And  this  is 
where  you  might  want  to  start  copying  now,  Ron. 
Delete  1  hour  from  h6  to  1+T.     From  k6  to  UT  ,  we're 
just  going  to  delete  the  activities  that  are  pres- 
ently scheduled  at  1|6:30  to  UT:00,  you'll  perform 
at  H5  -  move  those  to  Let  me  read  that  again. 

Delete  1  hour  from  U6:00  to  UT:00.     The  activiLio? 
that  are  listed  at  k6:30  to  UT:00,  perform  at  !4':):00. 


Tape  lT/6 


00  21  25  hi    CMP  Okay,  Bob,  looks  like  we  delete  1  hour  from  k6  to 

1+7  hours.     And  then  the  activities  that  are  at 
i+6:30,  we'll  do  those  at  ^5:00. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     And  then  starting  at  hj ,  just  take  - 

just  scratch  1  hour  off  of  each  time.  Just  subtract 
1  hour  from  each  of  those  times  up  through  66  hours. 
Just  subtract  1  hour  from       up  through  66. 

CMP  Okay,  we  can  do  that.    Subtract  1  hour  from 

through  66  hours . 

CC  Okay.     And  then  just  for  your  information  -  you 

won't  have  to  do  it  -  but  we're  going  to  play  the 
old  simulator  step-ahead  game  at  66  hours  of  the 
old  time,  which  will  be  65  hours  of  the  new  time. 
So  however  you  want  to  call  it,  we'll  call  you; 
and  we're  going  to  sync  you  up  at  67 '.kO  at  that 
point.     We'll  play  the  old  step-ahead  game  there. 

00  21  26  hh     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     That  means  that  you're  not  going  to 

actually  do  ajiy  clock  updates  or  syncs  until  - 
until  somewhere  in  the  60's  there  and  not  in 
the  1+0's. 

CC  Roger.     It'll  be  65  hours  of  the  new  time  or 

66  hours  under  the  old  time;  depends  on  how  you 
want  to  look  at  it .  But  that ' s  when  we ' 11  sync 
you  up. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  You'll  be  in  sync  all  the  way  out  to  that  time; 

just  -  we're  just  going  to  delete  and  jump  you 
to  67:'+0. 

00  21  27  17    SC  Okay. 

CC  And  just  another  note  of  interest  -  You  don't  have 

to  write  this  down  -  what  -  let's  see;  I'll  read 
it  to  you.     The  awake  periods  will  be  -  on  day  3, 
you'll  be  15  hours,  8  hours  sleep  starting  at 
11:33  CST;  then  at  day  U,  you'll  be  ih  and  20  hours, 
with  8  hours  sleep.     So  -  it  actually  Just  shorl.ons 
a  couple  days  there. 


00  21  27  h9  CMP 


Okay.     Mighty  fine. 


Tape  17/T 


CC  The  "beauty  of  that  -  that  Tommy  came  up  with  on 

that,  Ron  -  is  that  all  you  have  to  do  is  go  sub- 
tract those  1  hours  and  no  more  reading  or  anything 
else;  just  subtract  them  and  we're  in  business. 

CMP  Yes,  it  looks  real  fine. 

CC  We're  going  to  give  Tommy  a  gold  star  for  that  one. 

00  21  28  20    CMP  (Laughter)     You  bet. 

LMP  (Cough)     Bob,  this  is  Jack.     I'm  going  to  try  and 

get  a  little  exercise.     I'd  be  interested  to  know 
hov  high  I  can  get  my  heart  rate  just  fooling 
around  up  here . 

00  21  28  1+1+    CC  Okay,  if  we  can  -  We'll  keep  you  posted,  Jack. 

CDR  Bob,  just  to  keep  you  and  the  people  there  thinking 

a  little  bit,  today  is  a  relatively  short  day;  but 
it  is  a  good  day  because  it  gives  us  a  chance  to 
again  get  acclimated  finish  our  stowage  and  just 
generally  go  through  all  the  things  that  have  to 
be  gone  through  for  the  rest  of  the  mission.  We've 
got  3  eating  days  today,  and  judging  from  what 
we're  thinking  and  talking  about  now  -  that  the  last 
two  are  going  to  be  sort  of  stretched  into  one 
eating  period  because  three  meals  on  this  particu- 
lar day  just  is  not  really  going  to  be  stomachable . 

CC  Roger ,     We  understand  that . 

SC  I  think  you'll  find  out  that  our  eating  and  drink- 

ing, for  the  most  part,  is  starting  off  relatively 
slow;  but  -  I  think  we'll  pick  it  up  here  by 
tomorrow. 

00  21  30  2l+    CC  Roger. 

00  21  33  18    CDR  Bob,  one  other  thing  while  I'm  thinking  about  it. 

The  PU  shifts  were  all  noticeable,  but  probably 
the  one  that  really  caught  me  a  little  bit  by  sur- 
prise was  the  PU  shift  on  the  S-IVB  during  - 
during  TLI. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  17/8 


CDF  It  just  felt  like  you  lit  in  the  other  burner. 

00  21  33  hi    CC  Roger.  Understand. 

CC  Just  for  Jack's  information,  you're  riinning  in  the 

80s  on  your  heartbeat.    We  saw  a  91  or  2  there  for 
a  few  minutes.     Are  you  working  -  still  working 
out? 

IMP  (Laughter)     Yes.     That's  sort  of  discouraging. 

CC  I'm  sorry,  babe  (laughter). 

CDR  Hey,  Bob,  what  was  Jack  running  before  he  started 

that? 

CC  He  was  running  in  the  60s;  the  count's  somewhere 

in  the  mid  60s . 

00  21  3h  ho     CDR  Okay. 

00  21  35  29     CC  Okay,  Jack.     You're  running  about  105  and  10  3 

right  now. 

CC  Kind  of  interesting.  Jack.     You  slowed  down,  and 

then  you're  back  up  to  105  right  now.     Now  you're 
slowing  down  again. 

00  21  ho  11    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead,  17;  this  is  Houston. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  17 . 

CC  Roger,     Go  ahead. 

CC  17,  Houston.     Go  ahead. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  17. 

CC  Roger,  17.     Go  ahead.     Roger,  17-     Go  ahead. 

CC  Hello,  17;  Houston.     You  read? 


Tape  17/9 


00  21  kl  20     CT  Honeysuckle  comm  tech,  Houston  coram  tech,  net  1. 

Goddard  voice,  Houston  comm  tech,  net  1. 

CT  Goddard  voice. 

CT  Roger,  Goddard.     I'm  reading  you  loud  and  clear. 

Honeysuckle.     I'm  not  getting  to  him. 

00  21  Ul  36     CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  America.  Over. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Stand  by.     If  you  read  us, 

don't  change  anything  in  the  cockpit  yet. 

CT  17,  Honeysuckle. 

CT  Roger,  Honeysuckle.    I  read  you  -  - 

CMP  Hello,  Honeysuckle.     17 's  reading  you  loud  and 

clear. 

CT  Roger.     We  have  a  comm  outage  and  I'll  "be  right 

with  you. 

CMP  Okay.     Very  fine.     How  are  things  down  there 

today? 

CT  Fine .     Your  . . . 

SC  ...  from  here . 

00  21  h2  22    CC  Okay,  17;  Houston.     How  do  you  read  now? 

00  21  k2  28    CDR  We  got  you.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     That  was  our  network  problem,  not  your 

problem  on  board. 

CDR  Okay  thank  you,  I  just  figured  out  what  happened 

on  my  PTC.     Here  -  with  his  exercises.  Jack  is 
shaking  all  of  America  in  all  three  axes,  here. 

CC  Roger.     He  finally  got  to  115  on  the  heart  rate. 

00  21  h2  52     LMP  Yes,  my  rate  needles  are  boiincing  back  and  forth 

a  half  a  degree  (laughter). 

CC  Roger.     Got  to  find  something  to  pin  it  on. 


Tape  17/10 


00  21  kk  U8    CC  Jack.     Surgeon  over  here  says  you  got  a  120  on 

the  heartbeat  for  a  moment  there  -  122  right  now. 
Okay,  130,  Jack.     130.     lUo ,  Jack,  lUo. 

00  21  liT  l8    CC  17,  we've  got  a  serious  one  here.     You  might  be 

interested.     All  that  exercise  banging  around  in 
there  has  destratified  tank  3  0„ ,  so  it  stirred 
it  all  up  good. 

LMP  Yes,  glad  we  brought  him  along  then.     We  found  seme 

use  for  him.  Once  an  EECOM,  always  an  EECOM.  I 
have  to  ere  -  create  my  own  g  in  order  to  run  in 
place . 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  How  high  up  did  the  heart  rate  get.  Bob? 

CC  We  got  you  at  ll+O ,  Jack.     Were  you  running  in 

place?    Is  that  -  - 

LMP  ll+O  was  -  Yes,  I  was  -  I'm  underneath  the  right- 

hand  couch  holding  on  to  the  main  Y-Y  strut  with 
my  hands  and  running  against  the  LEB . 

CC  Roger.     It  worked  real  well.     lUo  and  you  were 

running  in  the  mid-60'E,  so  you  picked  up  about  - 
almost  70  beats  there,  no  problem.     The  surgeon 
is  very  happy. 


LMP 


Roger.     Well,  I'm  happy  too.     You  know,  it  took  a 
while  to  find  a  technique  I  was  -  initially,  I  got 
up  to  90  with  just  isometrics  -  pushing  against 
the  couch,  and  the  running  Is  obviously  what  it 
takes  . 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  But  I  don't  -  Bob,  I  don't  I  really  don't  frcl  - 

I  guess  I  lost  you. 

00  21  51  33     LMP  Hello,  Houston;  17 .     You  still  there? 

CC 


Roger.    We're  with  you.    We  had  a  little  comm 
problem  there  as  -  you  know,  coning  on  this  -  as 
we  were  changing  on  the  antenna  -  but  we're  with 
you. 


Tape  17/11 


LMP  Okay.    What's  the  heartrate  right  now? 

CC  Right  at  -  Stand  by.     We  ha.d  a  data  dropout, 

Jack,  that's  why  I'm  holding  up.  And  it  just  came 
on  and  we'll  tell  you  in  a  second  here.  About  60 , 
Jack.     Right  about  60  even. 

LMP  Okay.     That's  where  I  was  when  I  started,  so 

that's  -  you  certainly  recover  fast.  I  don't  know 
whether  that's  faster  than  in  one  g  or  not. 


CC 


Well,  we're  happy  with  it  -  the  Surgeon  is  happy 
with  it,  so  it's  good. 


LMP  Well,  I  just  -  How  does  that  compare  -  do  they 

have  any  data  on  how  that  compares  with  the  re- 
covery -  say,  the  5-ininute  recovery  time  on  the 
ergometer? 


'^'^  We  can  look  it  up.  Jack,  if  you're  interested. 

We  -  we'll  have  to  check  your  records,  they  don't 
have  it  right  in  front  of  us. 

LMP  No  big  deal.     I  was  just  curious. 

00  21  52  5h     CC  Roger. 

00  21  55  1+7    CC  Jack,  Just  for  your  information  -  the  Surgeons 

pulled  out  the  recovery  rate  data  and  it's  the 
same  with  our  data,  which  is  a  little  rough  here. 
It's  the  same  for  zero  g  as  your  one-g  ergometer 
data. 

LMP  Okay.     That's  very  interesting. 

00  21  56  12    CC  Roger. 

00  21  59  kS    LMP  Bob,  since  we've  got  a  few  moments  to  talk  -  wliich 

I  know  we  won't  have  later  in  the  mission.  Some- 
thing I  don't  ever  remember  happening,  but  it's 
happening  now  in  the  windows.     That's  the  1,  3, 
and  5,  but  not  2  and  i+ ,  is  that  in  the  center  of 
the  window  about  6  or  8  inches  in  diameter,  as 
you  come  through  the  night  side  of  the  rotation, 
you  pick  up  a  very  light  -  oh,  you  might  call  it 
even  a  frost.    Very  light  frost  on  the  window  - 
more  like  a  -  a  moisture  frost,  film  of  moisture. 


Tape  17/12 


00  22  01  ik  CC 
00  22  02  38  LMP 

CC 

LMP 

SC 

LMP 

CC 

LMP 

CC 

LMP 


or  film  of  frost  -  not  very  thick  like  crystals  at 
all.     As  you  come  through  the  sunlight,  it  tends 
to  sublime  away,  'but  never  -  you  never  fully  lose 
it  until  you  go  hack  into  darkness  again.  The 
very  artistic  definite  ice  crystals  that  we  had  on 
my  number  1  window  over  here  yesterday  -  I  think 
we  reported  to  you  this  morning  that  they  were  gone 
or  they  sublimed  away.     But  the  impression  they 
left  on  the  window  is  still  there;  it's  very  sharp 
and  very  evident . 

Roger.     We  copy  that. 

Bob,  I  don't  know  whether  you  were  copying  Honey- 
suckle's call  to  us,  while  you  lost  comm  there 
for  a  while. 

Roger.     We  copy. 

But  they  said  that  they  had  -  - 


Okay . 

They  kind  of  concurred  with  your  -  - 
Okay  

-  -  weather  report  there.  Jack. 

Oh,  lucky  guess.     I  might  say  that  the  sub  -  tlie 
zero  phase  point  that  we're  looking  at  is  right  at 
the  northeast  coast  of  Australia,  and  it's  much 
brighter.     Very  -  it's  a  very  bright  point  now  - 
oh,  it's  hard  to  say  how  far  across.     But,  quite 
unlike  what  I  mentioned  being  in  the  vicinity  of 
the  Samoan  Islands  earlier.     And  it's  right  at  the 
shore,  and  it  could  be  just  that  the  shore  area 
has  somewhat  choppier  seas.     So  maybe  -  maybe  the 
brightness  of  that  point  is  a  function  of  sea  state, 
although  1  don't  know  exactly  what  type  of  seas  it 
would  take  to  brighten  it  up.     I  suspect  choppy 
seas  are  better  than  long  swells. 


CC 


Roger,  Jack. 


Tape  17/13 


00  22  Ol+  15    LMP  That  front  is  -  seems  to  have  slowed  down  its  prog- 

ress.    It's  ahout  in  the  same  position,  possibly 
sli^tly  farther  north  than  when  I  started  talking 
ahout  it  this  morning.     The  wave  that  has  -  seems 
to  be  developing  off  the  -  now  off  the  southwest 
coast  of  New  Zealand  is  much  more  pronounced  than 
it  was.     Definitely  seems  to  now  have  a  slight 
cyclonic  pattern  -  clockwise  pattern.     And  I 
wouldn't  be  surprised  if  the  next  couple  of  days 
that  moves  along  the  front  over  towards  Sydney. 
And  maybe  a  little  farther  north  than  that  might  - 
Brisbane  is  probably  more  likely. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  Except  I  got  the  movement  wrong  again.     Although  it 

does  seem  to  have  progressed  west  from  New  Zealand. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  I  take  back  what  I  said  about  forecasting  Sydney's 

weather.     I  think  that  will  -  I  would  suspect  that 
would  move  to  the  northeast  like  -  now  that  I  look  - 
it  seems  like  an  earlier  front ,  which  is  partly 
dissipated,  had  the  same  kind  of  motion,  and  now 
lies  considerably  north  and  east  of  the  one  I've 
been  talking  about. 

CC  Roger. 

00  22  06  k6    LMP  Thinking  back  on  some  weather  briefings  we  had  last 

week.  Bob  -  Are  you  there? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  I'll  talk  to  you  later.     I  think  you're  -  We're 

losing  you  for  a  little  bit  here. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We're  reading  you  loud  and  clear  right 

now.     Oh,  you're  going  out  a  little  bit  now. 

00  22  10  36     LMP  You  back  with  us ,  Bob? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 


Tape  11 /Ih 


LMP  Okay,  I  was  going  to  try  to  recover  there  from  that 

last  few  statements.     As  I  recall,  the  weather 
briefings  that  we  had  at  the  Cape  last  week,  tliat  - 
talking  with  Ken  Wabor  and  Jim  Nicholson  down  there, 
that  the  patterns  we  were  seeing  from  the  satellite 
pictiAres  in  their  forecast  -  or  analysis  anyway, 
charts  in  the  New  Zealand  part  of  the  Pacific, 
those  waves  formed  along  the  front  woiild  move  north 
and  then  curve  east.     And  that  appears  to  be  the 
pattern  that  was  visible  in  one  of  the  older  fronts. 
And  I  suspect  if  that  pattern  wo\ild  hold  with  the 
wave  that's  developed  off  the  coast  -  right  on  the 
coast  of  New  Zealand  now,  that  it  might  move  on  up 
the  western  coast  of  New  Zealand.    We'll  probably 
have  a  chance  to  watch  that  the  next  few  days  and 
see  what  happens  to  it, 

00  22  11  52     CC  Roger,  Jack. 

00  22  12  CDR  Houston,  how  are  you  reading  now? 

CC  Reading  you  loud  and  clear. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     As  I  look  at  the  clock,  we're  -  just 

2h  hours  ago  we  were  about  within  our  hold  some- 
where.    For  this  period  yesterday  we  were  in  our 
hold,  and  I  think  it  goes  without  saying;  but  we'd 
sure  like  to  pass  on  our  bit  of  gratitude  and 
thanks  for  the  response  that  the  people  down  at 
the  Cape  came  up  with.     And  particularly  at 
Marshall.     I  think  we  all  knew  no  one  would  be 
going  anywhere  unless  everyone  was  satisfied  that 
we  were  going  all  the  way.     And  that's  certainly 
the  way  we  felt,  but  we  do  want  to  thank  everybody 
who  had  a  part  in  making  that  come  true. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     I  think  it  was  a  superb  show  between 

the  Cape  and  Marshall  and  Houston  and  probably  even 
Goddard,  with  the  Network  and  Just  about  every- 
body concerned,  really,  had  to  do  some  work  there 
to  bring  it  off.     And  it  went  off  real  smoothly. 

CDR  Yes.     After  flying  with  Stafford  a  couple  of  times 

and  having  that  happen  a  fev^  times  back,  1  thought 
maybe  he  was  aboard. 


Tape  17/15 


CC  (Chuckle)     Okay.     I  think  that  vas  a  fi  rst  for 

getting  a  Saturn  V  to  30  seconds  before  ignition 
and  -  or  rather  actually  30  seconds  before  lift- 
off and  holding  there. 

CDR  It  got  mighty  quiet  onboard  about  30  seconds. 

CC  I  sure  imagine . 

LMP  We  all  felt  like  old  hands  the  second  time  around, 

though . 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Bob,  I've  been  at  that  30-second  count  one  other 

time  and  it's  no  different  the  second  time  around. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  But  we  do  appreciate  the  work,  and  I  think  it's 

typical  of  -  of  what  made  this  manned  space  pro- 
gram such  a  superprogram.     The  response  of  people 
like  that . 

CC  We  concur  with  that.  Gene,  wholeheartedly. 

CDR  And  with  that  in  mind,  tell  everyone  to  stick 

around  because  there's  a  lot  yet  to  be  done. 

00  22  15  2k    CC  You  better  believe  it. 

00  22  20  28     LMP  The  old  acciunulator  cycle  again,  I  guess,  gang. 

CC  Roger.    We're  seeing  it.     It  looks  like  you  got 

a  MASTER  ALARM.     Is  that  affirm? 

LMP  Yes,  sir.     That's  how  we  tell  these  days.  Although 

it  doesn't  happen  all  the  time,  and  I  guess  as  long 
as  -  Whenever  we  have  that  WASTE  VENT,  CLOSED,  we 
probably  wouldn't  be  bothered  by  it  at  night. 

CC  Roger.     That's  -  that's  our  feelings  here.  Jack. 

00  22  21  2h     CC  Say,  Gene  and  Ron,  I  talked  to  your  fraus  on  the 

phone  here  a  little  while  ago ,  and  they  gave  m.e 
a  very  interesting  observation  you  might  appre- 
ciate.    They  were  standing  close  to  some  water 


when  launch  and  they  noticed  that  when  the  booster 
lit  up,  something  scared  all  the  fish  because  the 
water  literally  began  to  boil  with  fish  jumping 
from  the  light,  I  guess,  or  from  the  shock  wave 
or  something.     It  must  have  made  a  very  distinct 
impression  because  that's  the  first  thing  both 
of  them  told  me  about . 

Yes,  that's  pretty  neat. 

A  neat  way  to  go  scare  up  the  fish,  I  guess. 

(Laughter)  Right. 

How  are  they  doing  today.  Bob? 

Really  fine,  really  fine.     They're  just  -  like  I 
said,  they're  just  really  tickled  pink,  and  Barbara 
said  that  she  wants  you  to  know  she's  going  into 
quarantine  until  after  the  weekend  here,  until 
after  landing. 

If  she  goes  into  q.uarantine,  it'll  be  a  space  first. 
Roger. 

You  got  to  be  careful  -  - 

Well,  you  know  what  to  tell  them  -  - 

-  -  about  all  this . 

Go  ahead ,  Bob . 

You  got  to  be  careful  now  -  The  hotboxes  are  open  - 
the  hotlines  are  open  at  the  houses  there,  so 
everything  you  say  is  being  listened  to. 

Yes;  okay.     In  that  case,  just  want  to  say  hello 

and  we're  having  a  super  good  time  looking  forward 

to  what's  coming,  and  we  thank  you  for  the  news, 
Robert . 

Roger. 

And  my  impression  of  the  world,  philosophically, 
I  suppose  you'll  be  getting  from  time  to  time, 
but  it  sure  hasn't  changed. 


Tape  IT/IY 


CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CDR  It's  sure  beautiful.     It's  sure  "beautiful  and, 

looking  "back  at  it,  there's  several  billion  people 
who  have  got  a  lot  to  work  for  because  it's  one  of 
the  most  beautiful  sights  we've  ever  seen  here. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     You  guys  are  sounding  great  and  doing 

real  great.    We're  pressing  right  on  here. 

CDR  I  just  want  to  emphasize.  Bob,  that  these  first 

2  days  -  of  course ,  yesterday  was  a  pretty  good 
day,  but  today  we're  catching  up  and  -  and,  as  I 
say,  on  the  food  consumption,  don't  be  expecting 
too  much. 


CC  Roger. 

CDR  Acclimation  and  familiarity,  and  stowage  and  pre- 

paration, and  enjoyment  and  relaxation  -  are  ready 
to  call  it  a  day  today,  which  is  probably  the  most 
ideal  day  in  the  Flight  Plan  to  put  it ,  because 
it's  probably  the  only  one  we'll  have. 


CC  Roger. 

CDR  Not  that  they  aren't  all  going  to  be  enjoyable. 

LMP  Hey,  Bob,  your  hourly  weather  report  is  due  and  - 

(laughter)  I'll  wait  awhile.     I  keep  losing  your 
comm. 


00  22  25  ll+     CC  Okay. 

00  22  26  06    LMP  Bob,  you  there? 


CC  Roger,  Jack.     We're  standing  by. 

LMP  Okay,  I  had  a  q.uick  -  quick  look  axid  just  to  bring 

you  up  to  date,  we're  starting  to  be  able  to  see 
the  coast  of  Asia.    The  Philippines  are  wide  open 
today.     And  the  -  that  tropical  storm  Theresa  that 
I  mentioned  I  thought  I  could  see  -  indeed,  I'm 
sure  that's  what  that  little  concentrated  mass  of 
clouds  was  north  of  New  Guinea.     And,  I  suspect, 
although  I  didn't  get  a  good  fix  on  it,  that  the 
folks  in  Guam  may  be  in  for  some  heavy  weather. 


Tape  17/18 


CC  Roger. 

LMP  Oh,  and.  Bob,  I  got  another  pair  of  pictures.  And 

that  would  he  up  to  I3I+. 

CC  Roger.     That's  on  Novemher  November,  is  that 

affirm? 

LMP  That's  affirm. 

CC  Good.     Good  show, 

LMP  And  that  was  taken  -  the  last  pass,  about  10  min- 

utes ago,  if  you  want  to  keep  track  of  GET. 

CC  Roger.     Thanks,  Jack;  I'm  doing  that. 

CC  Just  for  some  information  for  Ron,  in  partic^llar. 

We've  evaluated  the  data  from  the  mapping  camera 
and  the  pan  camera  cycling  there  and  it  looks 
real  good.     Everything  looks  right  normal. 

00  22  28  1+5    CMP  Hey,  that's  outstanding.     Good  deal. 

00  22  35  01    LMP  Bob,  how  do  you  read  17? 

CC  17,  read  you  5  by. 

LMP  That's  the  strangest-sounding  Bob  I  ever  heard. 

CC  He's  taking  a  short  break. 

LMP  Okay.     Good.     Nice  to  talk  with  you.     Hey,  I  don't 


know  whether  you  were  around.  Gene,  the  other  day 
when  I  was  talking  about  the  circialation  patterns 
around  Antarctica.     We  were  looking  then  at  the 
Indian  Ocean  -  actually.  South  Atlantic  in  the 
Indian  Ocean  region.    And  you  see  the  same  pattern 
at  about  the  same  latitude,  say  60  degrees  south, 
where  all  the  linear  cloud  patterns  which  presum- 
ably are  -  reflect  the  various  cold  fronts  have  - 
are  arcuate  with  their  convex  sides ,  or  more 
actually,  almost  pointed  sides  are  all  lined  up 
in  a  west-to-east  direction  around  that  latitude. 
It's  quite  a  spectacular  appearing  circulation 
pattern.     And  the  little  wave  that  I  mentioned  on 
New  Zealand  seems  to  be  beginning  to  form  another 


Tape  17/19 


arrow  or  another  convex  point  on  that  front  that's 
fitting  right  into  the  same  clrciilation  pattern. 


CC  Okay,  copy. 

LMP  That  would  make  four  of  those  major  convex  fronts 

that  I  can  see  from  this  view  crossing  -  south  of 
Australia  up  into  the  South  Pacific. 


CC  Okay. 

LMP  On  -  on  that  tropical  storm  that  was  Theresa,  I 

don't  know  whether  they're  still  calling  it  now  - 
that  now,  but  I'm  not  sure  it  may  be  a  little  south 
of  Guam.     Guam  may  not  be  in  trouble  with  that  one. 

CC  It  looks  like  it's  just  a  bit  to  the  west  of  Manila 

there  -  about  ?  or  6  degrees ,  no  more  than  that 
about.     It  looks  like  it's  about  5  degrees  west  of 
Manila  and  about  5  degrees  south.     And  it  is  still 
called  Theresa. 


00  22  39  5h     LMP  Okay,  Gene,  if  you're  still  there,  I  don't  like 

to  argue  with  you  but  I  think  our  analysis  chart 
is  a  little  more  up  to  date. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  That  center  ~  that  area  that  you  just  mentioned  is 

very  clear  now  -  east  of  the  Philippines.     Did  you 
say  west  or  east  of  the  Philippines? 

CC  West  of  the  Philippines. 

LMP  Okay,  that  a.rea  that  you  mentioned,  5  degrees  east, 

is  very  clear  and  the  center  of  the  -  what  appears 
*o  be  the  storm  that  I'm  speaking  of,  would  be 
about  1I+2  longitude  and  maybe  8  degrees  north 
latitude . 


CC  Okay , 

LMP  Vn-iich  would  put  it  south  of  Guam. 

CC  Okay,  yes,  you're  over  in  the  area  between  Guam 

and  the  Carolines,  then. 


Tape  17/20 


LMP 
CC 

LMP 

CC 

00  22  1+0  5h  LMP 


Say  again.  Gene? 

You're  over  in  the  area  between  Guam  and  the 
Carolines,  then.     You're  saying  it  would  be  just 
about  due  west  of  the  Carolines,  then. 


Okay. 

Yes,  you're  probably  looking  at  a  -  oh ,  I  don't 
know  -  maybe  a  what  -  a  12-hour  old  prog,  or 
something? 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  18/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


00  22  i+O  58    LMP  12-hour-old  prog,  or  something. 

CC  Yes,  that's  the  one  I  had  for  lautnch  date. 

LMP  Okay.    Well,  it's  -  it's  -  moved  quite  a  hit  now, 

and  I  guess  it's  the  same  storm;  still  seems  to 
be  very  well  organized  hut  quite  concentrated  and 
small . 


CC 


Okay.  I'll  get  a  new  prog  in  and  compare  your 
estimage  there. 


00  22  hi  30    LMP  Okay.     I  think  that's  pretty  good  -  those  -  li+2 

and  8  degrees  would  be  pretty  good  center  of  that 
storm.     I've  got  some  pretty  good  coor  -  I  can 
see  Mindanao,  and  I  can  see  the  -  let's  see  - 
just  a  second  -  what  is  that  on  Australia? 

OC  22  k2  12    LMP  Yes,  of  course,  that  is  Port  Moresby.     I  can  see 

that  point  there,  and  between  those  two  -  I  can 
pin  that  one  down  probably  within  a  couple  of 
degrees . 

CC  Okay.    We'll  get  a  satellite  photo  and  bring  it 

in  here  in  just  a  bit. 

00  22  50  23    LMP  Houston,  canister  number  k  is  in  Bravo  now. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

00  22  56  36    LMP  Houston,  11. 

CC  Go  ahead,  17- 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     That  storm  off  the  -  just  off  the 

southwest  coast  of  New  Zealand  is  still  intensi- 
fying and  has  both  high  and  low  level  clouds  as 
you  can  see  by  shadow  lines.     It  looks  like  it 
may  go  into  pretty  -  pretty  fair  storm  system. 
Borneo  is  very  clear  today;  and,  as  is  the' Phil- 
ippines .     And  as  I  mentioned,  there's  a  -  looks 
like  a  very  strong  frontal  system  that  stretches 


Tape  18/2 


from,  oh,  let's  say,  the  south  coast  of  -  or 
southeast  coast  of  Vietnam  up  -  up  between  and 
across  Tai  -  between  the  Philippines  and  Taiwan 
and  across  Taiwan.     And  right  along,  and  I  can't 
tell  I  think.  Just  off  -  Just  south  of  Japan.  I 
can't  tell  whether  Japan  is  in  the  front  or  not. 
I'll  look  at  it  some  more.     The  strongest  storm 
center  that  I  can  see  on  that  is  -  is  way  north, 
and  probably  -  Hokkaido  is  -  has  a  fair  amount  of 
weather  from  that  storm  system.     There  seems  to 
be  a  tropical  depression  just  north  of  Borneo. 
A  very  strong  circulation  system  north  of  Borneo 
and,  I  guess,  just  south  of  -  of  Vietnam. 

CC  Roger. 

00  22  59  01    LMP  Probably  south  -  probably  southeast.     I  hadn't 

noticed  it  before,  but  it's  extremely  concentrated 
northern  hemisphere  cycl  -  cyclone  pattern.  I 
don't  know  whether  that's  on  your  prog  or  not. 
That's  not  what's  left  of  Sally,  is  it? 

CC  Stand  by.     Let  me  look  at  the  prog  over  here  a 

sec.     Okay.     We  -  it  doesn't  show  on  the  old  one; 
the  new  one  is  coming  in  there  shortly.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     If  that  is  a  developing  depression,  it's 

approaching  Luzon  and  not  very  far  away  - 
2  or  3  degrees  of  longitude  now,  although  Luzon 
is  clear. 

CC  Roger. 

00  23  00  02    LMP  I  can  see  Korea  quite  well.  Bob.     It's  clear  today. 

CC  Yes,  we  -  we've  got  the  fronts.     The  leading  edge 

of  the  front  on  our  prog  was  past  Korea  and  on 
Japan,  and  you've  got  it  moving  quite  a  bit 
further  east  there. 

LMP  Well,  I'm  not  absolutely  sure  - 

00  23  00  22    LMP  MASTER  ALARM  on  the  accumulator. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 


Tape  18/3 


00  23  00  33    LMP  I  can't  make  out  Japan  spe  -  specifically  yet; 

"but  it '  s  clearly  past  Korea ,  and ,  by  -  iDy 
inspection,  it  looks  like  it  would  "be  also  past 
Japan  "by  now,  the  trailing  edge  of  the  front. 
However,  the  circulation  center  on  farther  north- 
east may  "be  affecting  Hokkaido,  as  I  said. 

CC  Roger.     Like  I  said,  the  front  on  the  old  prog  for 

yesterday  showed  that  front  on  the  other  side  of 
Japan,  so  it's  moved  across  pretty  well. 

00  23  01  26    LMP  As  I  recall,  they  had  a  tropical  storm  called 

Sally  that  went  into  -  ...  a  few  days  ago ,  and  so 
I  suspect  this  new  one  that  seems  -  that  I  think 
I  see  between  Borneo  and  "Vietnam  mayhe  something 
else;  a  new  depression  or  I  may  "be  -  "be  fooled  by 
it. 

00  23  02  16    LMP  Mainland  China,  Bob,  was  the  last  pass  here.  I 

can't  see  the  Ear  -  see  the  Earth  now,  but  Mainland 
China  looked  like  it  was  clear  as  far  as  I  could 
see .     There  might  be  another  front  quite  a  ways 
inland,  but  that  gets  right  at  the  LM,  and  I  can't 
tell.    But  Korea,  Yellow  Sea,  and  the  regions  of 
China  south  of  there  -  Shanghai  ,  Nanking  and  those 
places  are  -  look  as  if  they  are  quite  clear 
today,     I'll  check  that  again  next  time  around. 

00  23  02  50    CC  Roger.    And,  Jack,  we  are  ready  to  terminate  the 

charge  on  BATTERY  B  and  start  the  charge  on 
BATTERY  A. 

00  23  03  OU    LMP  Okay.     That's  in  work. 

00  23  ok  23    LMP  Houston,  for  your  information,  system  test  TA  is 

about  0.6. 

CC  Say  that  eigain ,  Jack.     I  missed  that.     0.6  on 

system  test  7A? 

00  23  oh  36    LMP  That's  affirm.     Battery  compartment  pressure. 

CC  Thank  you.  Jack. 


Tape  18/1+ 

00  23  05  13    IMP  Okay,  Bob.     BATTERY  A  is  being  charged  nov. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

00  23  07  02    LMP  Bob,  you  got  any  of  the  LMies  in  there  today 


CC 


LMP 


LMP 


LMP 


Any  of  your  LMies?  Roger.  They're  all  sitting 
by.    Just  gave  me  a  big  thumbs  up.  Jack. 

Okay.     Give  them  a  thumbs  up  on  the  rendezvous 
radar  antenna.     It  looks  real  good. 


CC  Roger. 


I'm  nose-to-nose  vith  it  practically  here  at  about 
2  feet,  and  it's  extremely  clean.    And  I  see 
absolutely  no  sign  of  any  -  anything  abnormal 
vith  it . 


CC  Roger. 


Matter  of  fact,  compared  to  some  of  the  flaking 
problems  and  things  like  that  ve've  heard  about 
in  the  past,  I  never  saw  a  cleaner  piece  of  hard- 
ware that  that  LM  looks  right  now. 


CC  Roger. 


LMP 


Appropriately,  finally  we're  getting  -  we're 
starting  to  use  it  during  the  Christmas  season. 
It  sure  looks  like  a  Christmas  package  with  all 
the  orange  tape  on  it. 

CC  Roger. 

00  23  08  38    CC  Ron,  we  got  your  NOUN  -  KOUN  05 . 

00  23  08  1+2    CMP  Okay.     I'll  go  ahead  and  accept  that  one  this  time, 

00  23  09  29    CC  We  got  the  9  degrees,  Ron.     You  can  torque. 

00  23  09  36    CMP  Okay.     I'll  torque  at  9i+0. 


Tape  18/5 


00  23  09  kh     CC  Okay.     We  got  it. 

00  23  09  56    CC  And,  Jack,  we've  "been  looking  at  our  records.  We 

don't  have  a  previous  SYSTEMS  TEST  reading  for 
T  Alfa.     Do  you  recall  any  previous  readings  on 
that  one? 

00  23  10  3^    LMP  Okay.     That  looks  like  another  accumulator  cycle  - 

got  a  MASTER  ALAEM. 

CC  We  dropped  data  just  then.  Jack,  so  we  can't 

concur  or  confirm  it .     That ' s  exactly  the  right 
time  -  - 

LMP  ...  all  right . 

00  23  11  05    LMP  Boh,  you  cut  out  about  your  SYSTEMS  TEST  meter 

discussion. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    Do  you  have  any  previous  7  Alfa 

readings?  We  don't  have  any  in  our  log  here 
written.  We're  just  wondering  what  the  past 
readings  on  that  were . 

LMP  No ,  I  think  that  was  the  first  one  we  would  have 

heen  called  to  make  after  a  battery  charge,  right? 

CC  That's  affirm.  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Jack.     I  -  you're  coming  in  very  weak. 

LMP  Well,  I  didn't  intend  to  be  transmitting.  We 

were  just  discussing  the  battery  vent  and  things. 
We  may  have  missed  something  in  the  d\xmp  checklist. 
We ' 11  check  it  out . 

CC  Wo,  sir.    We  don't  think  so.     We  just  thought  may- 

you  might  have  read  it  earlier. 

00  23  12  22    LMP  Oh,  yes,  you  want  the  battery  vent  -  It  should  be 

closed  now,  right? 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     Ron  says  it  ought  to  be  open. 


Tape  18/6 


CC 
LMP 

00  23  12  38  CC 

00  23  12  1+1  LMP 
CC 

LMP 
CC 

00  23  13  06  LMP 


CC 

00  23  13  57  CC 
LMP 

00  23  15  11  LMP 

00  23  15  21  CC 
00  23  15  23  LMP 


That  -  that's  affirm. 

. . .  checked  the  checklist . 

It  should  be  open.    That  -  there's  no  question 
ahout  that .     It  should  be  open . 

Okay .     It ' s  open . 

Really,  there's  no  problem.  Jack.     It  should  be 
open ,  but  the  value  appears  a  bit  low  to  us ,  and 
we'd  like  to  read  it  again  before  you  go  to  sleep. 
We  may  want  to  close  it.    And  a  nominal  reading 
would  be  1.7  -  - 


-  -  on  that . 

Okay.     We  -  we  closed  it  when  we  were  doing  all 

our  dumping  some  time  back  and  neglected  to  open 

it  again.     So,  it  was  closed  when  I  gave  you  the 

reading,  and  it  has  been  closed  during  some 

2  hours,  anyway.     I'll  -  you  can  figure  out  how 

long. 

Okay.    We  -  we  copy  that. 

Jack,  would  you  mind  opening  the  vent  and  watching 
the  system  meter  concurrently  with  it? 

Stand  by. 

Well,  it's  -  it's  CLOSED  now,  and  it's  still 
reading  what  it  -  0.6.     Do  you  want  us  to  open  it 
again? 

Roger.     Open  the  VENT  and  -  - 

I  mean,  it's  open  now.  I'm  -  I'm  sorry.  Bob.  It 
is  now  open  and  reading  0.6.  It  read  0.6  when  it 
was  CLOSED. 


Tape  18/7 


CC  Okay.     Just  leave  it  open  now. 

IMP  Okay . 

CC  And  we  will  want  to  still  check  it  prior  to  your 

sleep  period. 

LMP  Okay . 

00  23  15  07    LMP  Okay,  Bob,  a  little  update  on  the  coast  of  Asia. 

It  looks  like  some  residual  cloudiness  would  "be 
affecting  the  Pusan  region  of  Korea.     And,  also, 
that's  residual  after  the  frontal  passage.  And 
it  looks  like  maybe  Shanghai,  after  all,  may  have 
some  storms  associated  with  it,  but  it's  really 
hard  to  pick  out  exactly  -  the  exact  coast  line 
of  Asia,  but  I  -  there  are  some  clouds  in  the 
Yellow  Sea  behind  the  front .     Look  like  they  might 
be  possibly  some  high  cirrus  is  all. 

CC  Jack,  do  you  still  see  that  storm  that  you  said 

was  sitting  between  Guam  and  -  Borneo  in  that  area? 

00  23  17  07    LMP  Okay.     I  see  there  is  this  cloud  concentration 

between  New  Guinea  and  Guam.     The  more  I  look  at 
it  the  less  well  developed  it  appears  to  me 
compared  to  some  of  the  other  circulation  patterns . 
It  could  be  just  a  residual  depression  from 
Teresa  that  has  moved  out  into  that  area.     It  is 
an  isolated,  a  relatively  isolated  cloud  pattern, 
fairly  small,  but  apparently  fairly  dense.  But 
has  -  does  not  have  a  strong  cyclonic  pattern  to 
it.     Nothing  at  all  like  the  pattern  that  now 
exists  above  Borneo  and  seems  to  be  moving  towards 
Luzon. 

CC  Roger .    We  copy . 

SO  Okay . 

00  23  22  09     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     We're  moving  in  the  pieces  of  a 

Presleep  Checklist.     Here's  some  more  read-outs 
for  you.     BATTEEY  C  is  37-0;  PYRO  BAT  A,  37.2; 
PYRO  BAT  B,  37.2;  RCS  A,  95;  Bravo,  9^;  Charlie,  9^+ : 
Delta  is  96. 


Tape  18/8 


00  23  22  1+5     CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.     And  if  you've  started  it, 

we  don't  want  you  to  reinitialize  the  PTC  until 
ahout  21+00  on  the  time  line. 

CMP  Okay.     We're  -  we're  just  getting  a  little  ahead  - 

we  -  took  us  longer  last  night  on  the  presleep 
than  we  expected.  We're  trying  to  work  it  out 
again . 

CC  Yes.     We  don't  to  -  we  want  to  terminate  the  waste 

stowage  vent  at  that  time,  because  we  think  that 
that  vent  is  what's  contrihuting  to  our  PTC  coning, 

CMP  Okay.     We're  -  we're  not  -  we're  not  really  ready 

to  go  to  sleep  yet,  but  we're  Just  moving  ahead. 

CC        •  Roger. 


CMP 
CC 


And  if  it's  okay,  I'll  cycle  the  fans. 
Roger.     We're  standing  by. 
00  23  2k  53    CMP  Okay.     The  fans  are  off. 

CC  Roger. 

00  23  29  06    CC  Say,  Jack,  we  got  a  request  in  here  from  our  ARIA 

friends . 

LMP  Go  ahead. 


CC 


LMP 
CC 


They  were  Just  wondering  if  your  looking  out  that 
way,  if  you  could  give  them  some  sort  of  update 
of  what  the  weather  in  the  Wake  Island  -  Kwajalein  - 
the  south  of  the  Wake  area  looks  like. 

Okay.    Let  me  work  on  that  one. 

Okay.     You're  going  to  mearn  -  earn  your  American 
Meteorological  Society  badge  here  pretty  quick. 


00  23  29  k6    IMP  Okay.     Let  me  get  the  monocular,  and  we'll  look 

at  Wake  Island.     I  miss  having  all  those  nice 
latitude  and  longitude  lines  on  the  globe. 


Tape  18/9 


. . .  there . 

Okay,  Bob.     I'll  probably  have  to  work  on  this 
one  a  little  more,  hut  -  hut  it  looks  like  around 
Wake,  or  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Kwajaleins  and 
north  of  Wake,  about  all  you  have  is  a  lot  of 
cloudiness  although  -  and  in  a  generally  -  over 
wide  part  of  that  Pacific,  I'm  talking  about  15 
or  20  degrees  of  longitude  and  latitude,  there's 
a  -  roughly  a  clock  -  a  clockwise  circulation 
pattern.     But  the  clouds  do  not  look  very  dense 
or  concentrated  in  any  one  area.     And  at  leading 
off  to  the  southeast  from  that  general  cloud  mass  , 
there 're  cyclonic  -  anticyclonic  cloud  mass  is 
a  -  is  one  of  the  old  fronts  -  or  at  least  one  of 
the  old  linear  cloud  patterns  that  extends  down 
into  the  South  Pacific. 

CO  Roger,  Jack.     I'm  sure  that  the  ARIA  troops  are 

listening  down  at  Patrick  and  caught  all  that. 

LMP  Well,  my  guess  is,  Bob,  and  it's  purely  a  guess, 

is  that  there  -  probably  -  if  they  were  out  there 
right  now,  would  be  experiencing  an  intermediate 
layer  of  clouds  with  scattered  showers .     And  a 
not  too  strongly  developed  circulation  system,  so 
I  can't  predict  the  winds.     But  I  wouldn't  expect 
them  to  be  anything  -  anything  what  might  be 
down  -  associated  with  the  remnants  of  the  tropical 
depression  Theresa.    Now  that  Theresa  -  what's 
left  of  it,  if  I'm  correct  in  -  in  picking  it  out 
there,  probably  is  -  is  moving  in  that  direction, 
although  it  looks  weak  enough.     But  right  now  I 
don't  think  it  would  be  any  big  problem.     And  it 
may,  in  fact,  go  south  of  there. 

00  23  36  55    CC  Roger.     The  prog  I  got  in  my  hand  for  3-hour-old 

weather  has  Theresa  located  just  about  in  the 
Manila  area.    Did  you  concur  with  that,  or  do  you 
think  it  passed  the  -  the  Philippines? 

00  23  37  09     IMP  Well,  I  don't  -  Manila's  clear.     The  only  thing 

approaching  near  Manila  is  -  is  this  other  storm 
center  that  now  is  north  of  Borneo.    And  to  the 
east  of  Manila,  it's  clear  all  the  way  over  to 
this  little  cloud  mass  that  I  was  guess  might  be 
Theresa. 


CC 

00  23  3h  26  LMP 


Tape  18/10 


CC  Roger.    All  I  say,  this  is  3  hours  old  so   

IMP   And  that's  about  -  I  gave  Gene  Kranz  some 

coordinates  on  it.     You  can  look  it  up.  Those 
were  pretty  good  coordinates  for  that  cloud  mass. 
Now  whether  that's  really  Theresa  or  not,  I  don't 
know. 

00  23  37  h3    CC  We  got  one  thing  with  -  for  the  last  couple  of 

hours  here,  we've  been  getting  high-bit-rate  data 
through  our  new  facility  -  a  new  facility  at 
Tidblnbilla.     Tidbinbilla  is  to  a  210  dish,  and 
they're  covering  the  first  -  - 


LMP 


CC 


  between  Wake  in  the  Kwajaleins,  Marshall 

Islands,  in  that  area,  it  doesn't  look  like  a  very 
concentrated  weather  pattern,  although  it  looks 
like  you'll  have  ceilings  in  that  region.  And 
they're  overcast  ceilings  rather  than  broken. 
Except  around  the  fringes  of  it. 


CC  Roger. 

LMP  We'll  keep  an  eye  on  it  of  course. 

00  23  38  35    CC  Jack,  how  do  you  read  us  now? 

LMP  You're  loud  and  clear, 

CC  Okay,  17,  for  the  last  2  hours,  we've  been  getting 

high-bit-rate  data  from  a  new  facility,  the 
facility  at  Tidbinbilla  and  they're  working  their 
first  Apollo  flight  ever,  you  might  give  them  a 
cheery  hellow. 

LMP  Tidbinbilla,  is  that  correct? 


That's  affirmative.  It's  very  close  to  the  Honey- 
suckle base  -  - 


LMP  Where  is  that? 


CC 


Very  close  to  Honeysuckle. 


Tape  18/11 


00  23  39  19    LMP  Well,  how  you  doing  -  how  you  doing  mikes?  We 

certainly  appreciate  you  guys  "being  on  the  loop 
for  this  one. 

00  23  1+0  U6    CC  IT,  Houston.     We'd  like  ACCEPT,  and  we'll  update 

your  gyro  drift,  the  pitch,  roll,  and  yaw  drifts. 

00  23  ho  57    CDR  Okay,  got  ACCEPT  and  POO. 

hi  01    CC  Roger. 

00  23  U5  57    CC  17  J  Houston.    The  computer  is  yours.    And  you  can 

go  "back  to  attitude  and  reinitialize  PTC  whenever 
you  want  to. 

CDR  Go  aiiead.  Boh. 

00  23  U6  06    CC  The  computer  is  yours ,  Gene  -  - 

CDR  Go  ahead.    We're  reading  you. 

CC  You  can  go  to  attitude  and  reinitialize  PTC  when- 

ever you  want  to . 

00  23  1+6  19    CDR  Okay.     Did  you  mean  to  leave  the  computer  with 

VERB  21  NOUN  01  up? 

00  23  1+6  23    CC  Roger.     That's  your  computer  with  that  -  as  you 

got  it . 

CDR  Okay;  that's  right.    That's  lU  62.  Okay. 

CC  17,  Houston. 

LMP  Roger.    Go  ahead. 

00  23  50  15    CC  Roger.     We've  got  a  recommended  configuration  for 

your  H^  fans  and        heaters.     We  would  like  the 

HEATERS  1  and  2  to  AUTO  and  H^  FANS  1  and  2, 

OFF;  3  to  AUTO.     Your  0^  heaters  look  good. 


Tape  18/12 


LMP  Okay.     Let  me  verify  that  I've  got  these  right. 

HEATERS  1,  2,  AUTO.     0^  HEATERS,  1  OFF;  2,  OFF; 

3,  AUTO.  FANS  -        FANS,  you  want  OFF;  OFF; 

and  AUTO.     Is  that  correct? 

CO  That's  what  ve  want  on  the        FANS.     And  the  0 

is  fine,  as  you've  got  it.  ^ 

00  23  51  ik    LMP  Okay.     They're  OFF,  OFF  -  Okay;  H    FANS:     OFF,  OFF, 

and  AUTO. 

00  23  51  19    CC  That's  affirmative,  Jack. 

00  23  51  35    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I  just  cleaned  the  suit  circuit  return 

valve  screen,  here.  It  was  probably,  as  expected, 
a  little  crud  on  it .  A  few  things  have  collected, 
but  really  not  too  bad. 

CO  Roger,  Gene. 

00  23  53  30    LMP  Bob,  a  little  more  about  Wake  and  the  Marshalls 

and  Kwajalein.     That  large  pattern  of  what  appear 
to  be  broken  to  overcast  clouds  in  a  -  a  clockwise 
circulation  pattern  -  crosses  the  equator  region 
now  that  I've  tried  to  project  that  through. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

00  23  57  27    CC  17,  Houston. 

CMP  17,  go  ahead. 

00  23  57  36    CC  Roger,  Ron.     When  you  stop  the  present  roll  on 

the  PTC  to  reinitialize,  pick  a  roll  angle  of  315 
or  130  for  stopping,  so  that  we  have  good  comm 
during  the  damping  period. 

CMP  Okay.     315  or  120,  okay? 

CC  130,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.     315  or  130. 


Tape  18/13 


CC  Roger.    That'll  give  us  good  comm  to  watch  the 

data  on  the  damping. 

CMP  Okay . 

01  00  00  3k     CDR  Hello,  Houston.     Hov  do  you  read? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  17. 

01  00  00  ho    CDR  Okay.     We're  at  300.     Do  you  want  us  to  go  to 

315  yet,  or  is  300  going  to  be  okay? 

CC  That's  good  enough.  Gene.    And  we'd  like  you  to 

close  your  waste  vent  at  this  time,  please. 

CDR  Okay . 

01  00  01  12    CDR  Okay.     It's  CLOSED  now. 

CC  Roger. 

01  00  01  37    CC  And,  17,  Houston.    We've  got  the  same  recommen- 

dation. We  recommend  Alfa  and  Bravo  for  damping; 
Bravo  and  Delta  for  spinup.  Over. 

CDR  That  was  Alfa  and  Bravo  for  damping  and  Bravo  and 

Delta  for  spinup. 

CC  That's  affirmative 

01  00  Ok  51    CC  17,  Houston. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  If  one  of  you  want  to  break  out  the  Flight  Plan 

Supplement ,  we  have  a  change  to  the  E-LOADS  on 
page  ikS  due  to  the  change  of  gyro- compensation 
parameters .     If  you  wajit  to  copy  them  down  when 
you  get  the  Supplement  out . 

CDR  Okay.    We'll  give  you  a  call. 

CC  Roger.    We'll  be  standing  by. 


Tape  I8/1I+ 


01  00  06  27    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We're  in  our  -  ve're  on  our  damping 

cycle  now. 

CC  Roger.    We're  watching  you.  Gene. 

01  00  12  13    CDR  Bob,  I  just  hit  the  control  stick.     It's  locked 

again  in  roll;  it  may  have  bumped  it  a  little  bit. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     We  copy. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  19/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  00  12  11    CDR  Bob,  I  just  hit  the  control  stick.     It's  locked 

again  in  roll.     I  may  have  bumped  it  a  little  bit. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     We  copy. 

01  00  17  15    CDR  Houston,  IT.     Okay  if  ve  CLOSE  the  waste  stowage 

vent  now?    Oh,  okay.     I'm  sorry.     It's  CLOSED. 

CC  Roger,  IT. 

CDR  Forget  it.     We  got  it.     I  -  I  was  left  out. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     On  the  film  status,  we're  still  where 

we  were,  November-November,  13^.    And  I'll  prob- 
ably take  two  more  pictures  before  we  go  to  sleep. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 


CC 


Okay.     And,  17,  if  one  of  you  are  down  in  the  LEB, 
could  you  give  us  a  read-out  on  SYSTEMS  TEST  T 
Alfa? 


CDR  Stand  by. 

01  00  20  58    CDR  Houston,  IT.     7  Alfa  is  0.6. 

CC  Roger.     7  Alfa  equals  0.6. 

01  00  22  5^    LMP  Okay,  Houston;  IT.    Are  we  configured  properly  now 

for  comm? 

CC  Stand  by,  Gor  -  stand  by.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     I've  got  -I'm  going  OMNI  Bravo  right  now. 

CC  We're  in  good  shape  on  the  comm,  and  we'll  be 

controlling  the  omnis. 

IMP  Roger,  Bob. 

CC  IT,  the  rates  look  great.    We're  ready  to  initialize 

FTC. 


Tape  19/2 


CDR  Okay,  Bob. 

01  00  27  li+    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     PTC  Is  initiated. 

CO  Roger,  Gene.     We  copy,  and  we  watch  the  roll  start. 

01  00  33  06    CDR  Hello,  Houston.     I  think  we've  got  everything  done 

on  the  checklist.     The  chlorine  has  been  -  water 
has  been  chlorinated,  we're  in  PTC,  and  I  think 
Jack  picked  up  everything  else.    How  does  it  look 
to  you? 


CC 


CDR 


CDR 


CDR 


CC 


Roger,  Gene.  Let's  -  let  us  make  a  check  through 
the  room  here,  and  then  just  a  reminder  that  I've 
got  that  addition  on  the  E-LOADS  for  the  -  in  the 
Flight  Plan  Supplement. 

Yes.     Stand  by.    Jack's  going  to  keep  the  headset 
on  and  the  biomed,  and  he'll  close  you  out  with  that 
and  if  there's  nothing  else,  I'm  going  to  go  off 
the  air . 


CC  Roger,  Gene, 


Okay,  say  good  night  to  my  friends  back  there. 


CC  We  certainly  will, 


Hey,  Just  so  that  we  know,  it  is  about  midnight, 
right? 

It's  about  7  minutes  after  midnight.  Gene. 


CDR  Okay,    Just  didn't  want  -  wanted  to  make  zure  it 

wasn't  noon. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Good  night  there,  Robert. 

CC  Good  night.  Gene. 

CMP  Okay.     Say  good  night,  Dick. 


Tape  19/3 


01  00  36  i+8    LMP  Bo"b?    This  is  Jack.     Your  last  report  for  the  day 

as  the  Earth  goes  past  window  5.    The  first  thing 
I  noticed  was  that  otir  zero  phase  point  is  not 
nearly  as  bright  on  the  west  coast  of  Australia  as 
it  is  on  the  -  was  on  the  east.    And  it's  looking 
right  at  the  coastline  now  and  see  no  bright  spot 
in  the  center.    Also,  that  circulation  pattern  or 
tropical  depression  possibly  that  I  saw  earlier 
north  of  Borneo  is  now  even  more  strongly  developed 
at  the  tail  end  of  the  front  that  stretches  up 
toward  Japan.    And  it  -  it  really  looks  like  a 
humdinger  from  here.    Beautiful  circulation  pattern 
and  very  concentrated.    And  it  is  now  east  of 
Vietnam,  and  again  between  Vietnam  and  -  and  the 
island  of  Luzon. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

LMP  And  I'd  be  very  -  be  very  curious  to  know  tomorrow 

morning  if  you  -  you  people  are  carrying  that  one 
on  their  progs  or  on  their  analysis  chart . 

CC  Roger . 

01  00  hi  33    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     You  want  me  to  erase  something  on 

page  I-U3  and  insert  something  else? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Jack.     On  1-^+3  under  column  A, 

down  at  line  11  and  12  and  13.     Just  to  make  sure 
you're  at  the  right  spot,  the  line  11  0-data  is 
00115.     Do  you  copy  that?    Do  you  see  that? 

LMP  I'm  with  you. 

CC  Okay.     Change  that  line  to  0037T . 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Change  line  12  to  OOO5O. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  And  line  13,  00523.  Over. 


Tape  19/h 


LMP  Okay,  I  got  that  and  (laughter)  as  you  might 

imagine,  when  I  said  erase,  I  did.    And  do  you 
have  the  OU  and  the  05  again,  please?    That  is,  if 
they're  pertinent. 

CC  Stand  hy.  Jack.     I'm  lost  myself  here  a  second. 

LMP  See,  you  gave  me  an  update  on  3OT0I+  and  31005,  and 

I  Just  erased  it, 

CC  Okay.    The  Oh  under  colmn  B  is  3I+761,  and  the 

05  line  under  column  B  is  15^03.  Over, 

LMP  Okay,     Here  we  go.     In  line  Alfa,  311*  n,  OO37Y; 

315  12,  OOO5O;  316  13,  00523.     In  line  Bravo, 
307  0I+  is  3^761;  310  05  is  15^+03.  Over. 

01  00  UU  13    CC  Roger.    We  copy.  Jack.     Just  a  reminder  to  he  sure 

and  configure  the  comm  per  the  presleep  checklist , 
And,  Just  for  your  information.  Jack,  I  -  I  hold 
you  at  100,116  miles.     I  was  going  to  give  you  a 
call  at  100,000  even,  and  then  I  got  talking  to 
you.     So  you've  crossed  the  100,000  mark  right 
now.    Tomorrow,  you're  probably  not  going  to  be 
giving  us  our  weather  report.     You'll  be  too  far 
out,  but  we'll  probably  be  starting  to  hear  from 
the  Moon,  huh? 

LMP  We're  not  going  to  see  much  of  the  Moon,  you  know. 

It's  going  to  be  pretty  dark,  so  I'll  have  to  keep 
looking  at  the  Earth. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  Pretty  good  -  pretty  interesting  place.  Very 

interesting  place. 

CC  I 'm  real  sure . 

LMP  And  I  guess  -  I  guess,  maybe,  I  -  100,000  miles. 

My  goodness  gracious.    That's  impressive. 

CC  Yes,  sir.    You're  slowing  down  all  the  way.  Jack. 

LMP  Well,  it's  sure  downhill  all  -  all  the  way  back, 

isn't  it? 


Tape  19/5 


CC  That's  for  s\are. 

CC  Jack,  did  the  CMP  get  off  the  line,  and  is  he 

sacked  out  now,  too? 

LMP  Yes,  I  lost  both  those  guys.    They  -  they  decided 

they  wanted  to  sleep,  and  I  may  "be  rumbling  around 
here  for  a  while  hut  I  took  -  we  all  three  took 
Seconal,  so  I  think  we'll  get  to  sleep  before  long. 

CC  Roger.     Just  give  us  a  call  if  you  need  anything, 

and  we'll  be  watching  everything  there,  and 
pleasant  dreams. 

LMP  Now,  you  don't  really  mean  that,  do  you? 

CC  Well,  I  can't  come  up  and  tuck  you  in  so  -  hope 

you  have  a  good  sleep.    You  need  lots  of  rest  up 
there,  gang. 

LMP  I'll  tell  you,  Bob,  about  halfway  though  this  day, 

I  think  I  acclimated.    And  I  really  feel  good. 
I've  been  eating  a  lot  better,  and  I'm  not  -  the 
only  thing  I  ever  really  felt  was  a  slight  headache. 
It  really  ~  not  the  fullness  of  the  head  that 
people  described,  I  guess,  but  just  a  little  head- 
ache.    I  could  have  been  looking  at  the  Earth  too 
much.     I  don't  know. 

CC  Roger,  Jack,     You've  been  sounding  good. 

LMP  Oh,  actually,  I  feel  -  I've  been  feeling  fine. 

Just  -  none  of  us  have  felt  like  eating.    And  that's 
probably  normal,  and  everybody's  eating  more  now, 
and  we'll  start  getting  to  sleep,  I  think, 

CC  Roger.     Jack,  Just  a  reminder  on  that  comm  for  the 

presleep  checklist.     It's  important  to  us  because 
we  can  get  the  -  we  can  get  high-bit-rate  data 
more. 

LMP  Bob,  he  cut  out,  but  I'm  in  the  comm  sleep  con- 

figiiration  now.     I'm  working  that  way. 

CC  Okay.     Ed  Grindell  was  shaking  his  head  for  a 

minute.     Now  he  says  as  long  as  you're  working 
that  way. 


Tape  19/6 


LMP  Bot,  you  still  cut  out.     Let's  try  it  again. 

CC  No  —  no  protlem.  Jack,     Just  a  reminder  on  the 

coEnn;  that's  all.     We're  watching  you  go  through 
the  checklist  here. 

LMP  Okay . 

01  00  1+9  19    LMP  I'm  on  HIGH  GAIN  now,  and  OMNI  Bravo  selected. 

LMP  How  do  you  read.  Bob,  on  the  HIGH  GAIN? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     And  it's  in  REACQ  and  NARROW. 

01  00  1+9  50    CC  Stand  "by.     Stand  "by  on  that.  Jack. 

CC  Say,  Jack,  can  we  refer  you  to  the  checklist  on 

S/1-27,  a  sleep  configuration  there,  where  you 
S-BAND  SQUELCH,  ENABLE,  et  cetera? 

01  00  50  50    LMP  Roger.  I'm  ENABLED. 

LMP  Oh,  et  cetera.  Yes. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  Okay.  I'll  get  to  that  in  a  minute.  Bob.  Who 

knows,  I  might  have  something  else  to  say. 

CC  Okay .     ( Laught  er ) 

LMP  Bob,  I  Just  probably  ought  to  qualify  all  those 

remarks  about  the  Earth's  weather.     It's  purely 
novice  talking  about  something  he  is  very  un- 
familiar with,  except  for  having  a  longstanding 
interest  in  it.    And  I  think  the  one  philosophical 
point,  if  any,  that  comes  out  of  it  is  that  some- 
body, probably  3-1/2  billion  years  ago  or  so, 
could  have  looked  at  the  Earth  and  described 
patterns  not  too  dissimilar.    And  it  was  within 
those  patterns  that  life  developed,  and  now  you 
see,  I  think,  and  obvious  to  everybody,  what  that 
life  has  progressed  to  doing.    And  I  certainly 
think  all  of  us  feel  that  it  has  not  stopped  doing 
that  progression,  and  we'll  probably  see  it  do 
things  that  even  you  and  I  can't  imagine  them  doing. 
I  certainly  hope  so. 


Tape  19/7 


CC  Roger,  Jack.     Ve  concur. 

01  00  5^  11    liMP  Bob,  you  always  wished  that  you  had  a  poet  on  board 

one  of  these  missions,  so  he  could  describe  things 
that  we're  seeing  and  looking  at  and  feeling  in 
terms  that  might  -  might  transmit  at  least  a  part 
of  that  feeling  to  everybody  in  the  world.  Unfor- 
tunately, that's  not  the  case.     But  he  certainly 
couldn't  look  at  that  fragile  blue  globe  and  not 
think  about  the  ancient  sails  of  life  that  are 
crossing  its  paths  and  wonder  ahead  to  the  -  up 
to  the  present,  to  the  modern  sails  of  life  that 
are  represented  by  men  that  developed  out  of  that 
life  that  are  sitting  there  next  to  you  and  that 
are  the  country  in  all  sorts  of  different  guises 
and  working  towards  the  same  end,  and  that  is  to 
put  that  life  farther  into  the  universe.     I  cer- 
tainly hope  that  someday,  in  the  not-too-distant 
future,  the  guy  can  fly  who  can  express  these 
things . 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     You're  doing  a  pretty  good  job 

expressing  them. 

01  00  58  29    CC  Jack,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Jack,  we'd  like  to  go  to  select  OMNI  Bravo,  and 

stow  the  high  gain  the  the  normal  stowage.  It's 
customary  we  do  not  use  the  high  gain  for  FTC  going 
TLC. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob,     I'm  sorry,  but  the  checklist  indicated 

that  you  do  all  go  back  to  OMNI  Bravo. 

CC  Roger.     It's  probably  ambiguous.     If  you  end  up 

going  up  on  the  checklist,  up  to  the  top  of  1-28, 
it  shows  you  where  you  want  OMNI  Bravo. 

LMP  Ambiguous  Is  the  best  word  I  can  think  of  for  it , 

CC  Say  again.  Jack. 

LMP  Ambiguous  is  the  best  word  I  can  think  of  for  it . 


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CC  Roger.    We  -  I  concur.     I  should  have  prohably 

called  you  earlier  and  Just  pointed  out  on  the 
Flight  Plan  where  it  says  presleep  checklist.  And 
then  there's  the  word  "coram,"  and  it  says  "omni," 
and  that  leads  you  into  the  checklist  and  makes 
sure  you  use  the  OMNI  setup  for  -  for  the  sleep 
configuration. 

LMP  Ho,  ho,  ho.    Tricky  fellows.     I  guess  you're  right. 

CC  Yes,  it's  something  we  don't  -  we  don't  -  sim  PTCs, 

TLCs,  and  TECs  very  often.    That's  for  sure. 

LMP  Well,  that's  "because  we  have  a  whole  day  to  learn 

out  here. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  OMNI  Bravo. 

CC  Roger . 

01  01  25  kh    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     I  think  I'll  hit  the  hay.     How  does 

everything  look  to  you? 

CC  Looking  pretty  good,  Jack,    We'd  like  the  S-BAND 

NORMAL  VOICE  to  OFF,  and  S-BAKD  SQUELCH  ENABLE, 
please. 

LMP  Yes,  I'll  get  that.     I  just  want  to  make  sure  that 

PTC  and  everthing  looks  good. 

CC  Yes,  it  looks  real  fine.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.    Talk  to  you  in  the  morning  -  or  to  somebody, 

anyway. 

CC  Roger.    Par  -  Parker  will  wake  you  up,  I  think. 

LMP  Oh,  gosh. 

01  01  26  26    CC  Have  a  good  sleep. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROmro  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

01  09  00  38    CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.     Good  morning. 

01  09  01  06    CDR  Is  that  the  best  you  could  do? 

CC  That ' s  not  very  good  either .     Give  us  a  call  when 

you  want  to  talk  to  us . 

LMP  Good  morning  to  you. 

CDR  How's  everything  look.  Boh? 

CC  You  guys  look  absolutely  super.     No  problem  at  all. 

CDR  Nice  way  to  wake  up.    Maybe  we'll  Just  sleep  in  for 

a  few  more  hours . 

Stand  by.    I'll  check  on  that. 

(Laughter) . 

Bob,  IT.     How  do  you  read? 

IT,  this  is  Gordo.     Bob  Just  finished  up  his  work- 
day with  that  last  call,  and  I'll  be  on  now. 


CC 

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CDR 

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Tape  25/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

01  09  31  23    LMP  Houston,  1?.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Good  morning,  Gordy.     How  you  doing? 

CC  Real  good.     How  about  you? 

LMP  We  all  feel  pretty  good  this  morning.     Got  some 

reports  for  you. 

CC  Okay.     Ready  to  copy. 

LMP  Okay,  on  the  CDR.     PRD  is  1702  5;  6-1/2  hours  good 

sleep.     One  Seconal,  which  is  the  one  I  reported 
last  night,  so  that's  just  one  now.     Had  a  - 
yesterday,  midday  or  so  -  he  had  a  nausea  pill  for 
gas.     And  we  hadn't  found  the  other  gas  pill,  so 
he  tried  that  one.     And  he  drank,  since  I  last 
reported,  two  and  a  half  containers  of  water. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  The  CDR  food  intake,  as  with  all  of  us ,  is  a  little 

bit  random,  and  I  don't  know  exactly  the  best  way 
to  report  it,  unless  you  want  it  all  in  detail. 

CC  Let  me  check  while  you  -  Go  on,  and  I'll  see  if 

they  want  a  detailed  description  of  the  food  or  not. 

LMP  Okay.     LMP  medical.     PRD  2i+036;  5-1/2  to  6  hours 

good  sleep,  1  intermittent.     Again,  I  had  a  Seconal 
but  that's  the  same  Seconal  I  mentioned  last  night. 
And  since  last  report  -  I  guess  one  -  two  and  a 
half  containers  of  fluid.  Water. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  And  just  for  checking  on  the  water  intake,  you 

should  have  me  down  for  six  containers  of  water. 

CC  Roger.     Six  total. 


Tape  25/2 


LMP  That's  affirm. 

LMP  CMP  medical.     PRD  is  15023;   7-1/2  hours  very  good 

sleep.     He  had  the  same  Seconal  we  had.  And, 
since  last  report,  has  three  water  containers  for 
a  total  of  six  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Jack,  I  guess  we  do  want  an  accounting  of  all  the 

food.     Whatever  you  think  is  the  hest  way  to  re- 
port it. 

01  09  35  19    LNIP  Okay,  Gordy.     Back  on  the  CDR,  and  I'll  just  tell 

you  what  we  ate.     For  the  day  2.     CDR:     mixed  fruit, 
that's  the  can,  instant  breakfast,  one  vitamin  pill, 
a  bag  of  tea,  turkey  and  gravy,  the  wet  pack,  and 
orange  juice. 

CO  Roger. 

LMP  Okay.     The  LMP:     cinnamon  toast  bread,  mixed  fruit, 

instant  breakfast,  coffee,  lemonade,  peach  arabrosia, 
one  vitamin,  one  slice  of  bread,  grapefruit  drink, 
gingerbread,  orange  drink.     And  I  have  one  coiii- 
plaint.     Somebody  slighted  me  on  a  caramel  candy 
in  meal  C. 


CC 


Roger.     We'll  start  an  investigation. 


LMP  Yes,  it  was  not  there.     Okay.     CMP:     the  spiced 

oat  cereal,  mixed  fruit,  instant  breakfast,  and 
coffee,  potato  soup,  ajnd  peach  ambrosia.  That's 
8.11  for  breakfast.     And  then  later  on,  he  had 
chocolate  pudding  and  a  grape  drink.     And  let's 
see  -  we  all  -  You  might  log  him  for  a  vitamin  pill 
and  me  for  a  vitamin  pill. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Oh,  yes,  I  forgot.     It's  here;   one  frankfurter, 

for  lunch. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  25/3 


LMP 


IMP 


CC 
LMP 


And  we  just  changed  LiOH  canister  as  per  the 
Flight  Plan. 


CC  Okay. 


And  in  a  minute,  I'll  have  weather  report  for  you. 


01  09  37  57    CC  Very  well. 

01  09  ho  58    LMP  Hey,  Gordy, 

CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP  Gordy,  the  null  bias  check.     Plus  0.9  and 

100  seconds. 

CC  Okay,  one  question  G&C  had.     Do  you  do  that  null 

hias  at  plus  100  or  minus  100  on  the  EMS  counter? 

LMP  Plus  100. 

CC  Okay,  and  it's  increased  up  to  101.9,  right? 

LMP  No,  it  increased  to  100.9. 

Roger.    Miscopied  you;  0.9.     Okay;  thank  you. 


Yes,  okay.  Seems  to  me  like  last  night  it  was 
100.7. 


CC  Roger. 

CC  And  for  o-ur  part  of  the  postsleep  checklist,  I 

have  the  consvimahles  status,  if  you'd  care  to 
listen. 

01  09  h2  22    LMP  Stand  by,  Gordy. 

01  09  U5  11    LMP  Gordy,  we'll  take  your  consumables  in  a  second. 

Let  me  bring  you  up  to  date  on  the  weather  around 
the  world,  if  you're  interested. 

CC  Yes,  we  are;  go  ahead. 


Tape 


LMP  Africa,  looks  in  pretty  good  shape.     There  is  a  - 

except  for  an  area  probably  around  Zambia  and 
Rhodesia  in  the  tropical  convergence  zone  there, 
where  it  looks  pretty  cloudy  and  probably  quite 
rainy.     There's  a  very  strong  circulation  pattern 
and  presumably  a  storm  off  -  just  off  the  coast  of 
northwest  Africa.     Very  spectacular  spiral  forma- 
tion of  clouds  in  a  cyclone  development.     It  looks 
like  there  are  probably  two  fairly  weak  cyclones  - 
Southern  Hemisphere  cyclones  in  the  South  Atlantic. 
One,  southwest  of  Cape  of  Good  Hope,  and  the  other 
about  due  vest  of  -  of  the  Falkland  Islands,  maybe 
a  little  bit  north  of  that.     South  America  looks 
to  be  in  quite  good  shape  weatherwise,  except  pos- 
sibly Uruguay  and  maybe  northern  Argentina  which 
appear  to  have  a  -  at  least  some  fairly  thick 
clouds  there,  although  no  strong  circulation  as- 
sociated with  this.  ... 


01  09  hQ  01    CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  got  all  that  up  to  Argentina, 

the  omni  switch  kind  of  cut  you  off. 


CC 


then 


Jack,  we  got  the  -  at  least  the  first  part  of  your 
weather  report  fine  up  through  the  clouds  in 
northern  Argentina,  and  then  the  switch  in  omnis 
cut  you  out. 


Okay,  that  was  about  it,  Gordy.     Ttiat's  -  I'll 
talk  to  you  some  more  later  about  it.     I  guess  the 
main  thing  I  need  now  is  -  are  youx  consumables. 

Okay.     By  the  way,  you  were  looking  back  from  more 
than  halfway  to  the  Moon.     You're  about  125,000 
out  now.     On  the  consumables,  the  RCS  is  running 
at  1.3  percent  over  the  Flight  Plan  line.     On  the 
0^:     tanks  2  and  3  are  right  on  the  line,  and 

tank  1  is  about  h  percent  below  the  line.     But  it's 
been  there  all  the  way  since  launch,  that  same  bias 
on  tank  1,     On  the  hydrogen:     tanks  1  and  3  are 
right  on  the  line,  tank  2  is  about  3  percent  above 
the  line.     All  in  all,  you're  looking  real  good 
c on s umab lewi s e . 


LMP 


Okay.     That's  hardly  worth  writing  down,  I  guess. 


Tape  2  5/5 


CMP  That's  the  way  we  like  to  see  it. 

CC  Same  here.     The  only  other  thing  I  have  in  the  way 

of  updates  is  a  PIPA  hlas  update.     You  can  load  it 
yourself,  or  we  can  load  it  when  we  come  up  with 
the  up-link  prior  to  the  "bum.     Yotir  choice.  And 
then  we'll  have  an  update  to  the  erasable  load 
update  and  a  supplement  to  correspond  with  that 
bias  update. 

CDR  Gordy,  why  don't  you  go  ahead  and  load  it  yourself 

when  you  send  up  the  vector? 

CC  Okay,  and  I'll  give  you  that  update  for  the  sup- 

plement.    It's  on  1-^4-3  whenever  you're  -  whenever 
it's  convenient. 

CDR  Okay,  Jack's  getting  that  out.     I  ran  another 

PIPA  bias  at  minus  100,  and  it  confirmed  the  first 
one.     It  ended  up  at  99-2. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Go  ahead  with  your  update  on  l-i+3,  Gordy. 

CC  Okay.     It's  in  the  load  A  of  the  octal  ID  of  03, 

which  now  reads  77252.     Change  that  to  77655. 

LMP  Did  you  copy,  Gordy? 

CC  I  didn't  copy  your  readbackj  no.     Okay,  306  03 

and  Alfa  77655. 

01  09  52  U2    CC  That's  right. 

01  10  03  17    IMP  Gordy,  how  do  you  read? 

CC  Loud  and  clear. 

LMP  Okay.     For  the  reference  on  -  on  those  menus,  at 

least  for  the  LMP,  I  think  I'm  probably  putting 
8  or  9  ounces  of  water  in  the  citrus  drinks  and 
those  kind  of  things,  rather  than  7,  which  has 
probably  upped  my  water  intake  some. 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  25/6 


LMP  And  I  think  that  prohal:ly  goes  for  everybody 

That  probably  goes  for  -  it  goes  for  Ron  and 
probably  Gene  also. 

01  10  03  52     CC  Roger. 

01  10  10  05     CC  17,  Houston.     I  have  a  little  synopsis  of  the  news 

here,   if  you'd  like  to  listen  during  breakfast 
Let  me  know. 


CDR 
CC 


Okay,  mighty  fine.     Send  it  up. 

Okay,  front  page  first.     In  Paris,  Henry  Kissinger 
met  for  30  minutes  this  morning  with  French  Presi- 
dent George  Pompidou  at  the  El^-see  Palace  just 
hours  before  his  scheduled  conference  with  Worth 
Vietnamese  Politburo  member  Le  Due  Tho  -  Tlio  that 
is,     North  Vietnamese  spokesmen  accused  Kissinger 
of  attempting  to  force  a  peace  settlement  by 
threatening  further  escalation  of  the  war.     As  both 
U.S.  and  North  Vietnamese  negotiators  expressed 
disappointment  at  the  continued  deadlock.  Chief 
American  delegate  William  J.  Porter  traveled  to 
Brussels  to  brief  Secretary  of  State  William  B. 
Rogers.     Rogers  will  -  will  return  later  today 
from  the  NATO  Conference  of  Ministers.     This  one 
IS  datel  -  date  -  datelined  Brussels.  Diplomatic 
sources  indicated  today  that  NATO  allies  will  re- 
quest negotiations  with  the  Soviet  Union  and  its 
allies  on  mutual  troop  reductions  in  central  Europe 
Exploratory  talks  expected  to  begin  about  Janu- 
ary 31,  with  full-scale  negotiations  to  follow 
sometime  next  fall.     In  Kansas  City,  vital  life 

^'  ^PP^^^  t°  have  stabilized. 

But  the  88-year-old  former  President  remains  on  the 
critical  list  at  Kansas  City's  Research  Hospital. 
Truman  is  suffering  from  lung  congestion  and  heart 
weakness.     In  Argentina,  aides  to  popular  Argentine 
politician  Juan  Peron  said  that  Peron  will  refuse 
the  nomination  to  the  presidency  of  Argentina  and 
will  return  to  exile  during  the  coming  week.  And 
on  the  sports  page.  Rice  coach  Al  Conover  is  ex- 
pected to  reveal  today  -  sometime  today  his  deci- 
sion to  either  remain  at  Rice  as  head  coach  or  move 
tc.  his  alma  mater  Wake  Forest  in  a  similar  position. 
T^e  Owl  head  coach  has  said  that  he  has  been  offered 
the  job  and  promises  a  yes-or-no  decision  today. 


Tape  25/T 


There  is  some  speculation  that  head  coach  Joe 
Paterno  of  Penn  State  may  move  to  a  head  coaching 
job  in  the  pros  next  year.     Paterno  is  busy  pre- 
paring his  Nittany  Lions  for  a  Sugar  Bowl  meeting 
with  Oklahoma  and  is  refusing  to  discuss  the  matter 
until  after  the  game.     Locally,  the  state  high 
school  football  playoffs  -  - 


CDR  Lost  you,  Gordo. 

01  10  12  1+T    CC  Say  again? 

01  10  ik  26    CC  Okay,  17.     Continuing  after  being  rudely  inter- 

rupted by  the  omni  switch,  the  state  high  school 
football  playoffs  here  in  Texas  are  underway  and  - 
with  a  whole  host  of  games  scheduled  this  weekend. 
And  the  final  item,  the  Major  League  Baseball 
Players'  Association  and  the  Commissioner's  Office 
are  going  at  it  again.     It  must  be  getting  close 
to  spring  training  time. 


Gordy,  you  cut  out  since  the  Nittany  Lions, 

Okay.     Did  you  hear  about  the  -  the  high  school 
playoffs? 

No,  the  last  we  heard  was  the  Nittany  Lions. 

Okay.     (Laughter)  Paterno,  the  head  coach  at  Penn 
State,  may  move  to  a  head  coaching  Job  in  the  pros 
next  year.     He's  busy  setting  up  his  Nittany  Lions 
for  a  Sugar  Bowl  meeting  with  Oklahoma  and  is  re- 
fusing to  discuss  the  matter  until  after  the  game. 
Here  locally,  the  state  high  school  football 
players  are  -  playoffs  are  underway  with  a  whole 
host  of  games  scheduled  for  this  weekend.     And  the 
final  item,  the  -  the  Major  League  Baseball  Players' 
Association  and  the  Commissioner's  Office  are  going 
at  it  again,  which  means  it  must  be  getting  close 
to  time  for  spring  training. 


01  10  l6  00  LMP 


No  editorials,  please  (laughter). 


Tape  25/8 

01  10  29  25    LMP  Gordy,  film  update  on  mag  November  November.  I'm 

on  frame  138,  and  that  includes  a  couple  of  pictures 
I  mentioned  to  Bot  I  took  Just  before  I  went  to 
sleep.    And  also,  two  pictures  this  morning  at 
about  33:30.     Those  are  the  Earth. 

01  10  29  51    CC  Okay,  Jack. 

01  10  35  18    CC  17,  Houston.     A  reminder.     We  need  the  PURGE 

LINE  HEATERS,  ON,  now.  And  I  do  have  a  maneuver 
pad  for  the  midcourse  when-you're  ready  to  copy. 
Over. 

01  10  35  33    CDR  Okay.     I've  already  got  the  HEATER,  ON.     And  give 

me  about  5  minutes,  and  I'll  get  the  pad. 

CC  Okay.     And  if  you'll  give  us  ACCEPT  and  POO,  we'll 

get  the  up-link  started  just  after  the  next  antenna 
switch.     We  want  to  catch  it  between  switches.  Over. 

01  10  35  55     CDR  Okay.     You  got  POO  and  ACCEPT. 

01  10  35  58    CC  Thank  you. 

01  10  he  16     CC  17,  it's  your  computer.     You  have  a  state  vector, 

VERB  66,  and  a  target  load,  and  a  PIPA  bias  update. 

01  10  k6  25     CDR  Very  good. 

01  10  k9  U6  ■  LMP  Believe  it  or  not,  Gordy,  I'm  ready  for  your  pad. 

01  10  1+9  52    CC  Okay,  Jack.     It's  a  midcourse  2,  SP§/G&W;  the 

weight  is  66786;  plus  1.21,  minus  0.13;  ignition 
time  is  035:29:59.09;  minus  0003. i+,  plus  0002.1, 
minus  0009.8;  attitude  is  132,  19I1,  3I43;  H^  and 

are  NA;  DELTA- 0010.6,  burn  time  is  0:02,  0006.5; 

sextant  star  is  25,  233.7,  16.^;  rest  of  the  pad 
is  NA.     Ullage,  none.     Other  remarks:     LM  weight, 
36281.     High  gain  angles:     PITCH,  minus  21;  YAW, 
181.     And  this  will  give  you  a  perilune  of  53.1. 
Should  make  everybody  onboard  feel  a  little  more 
c  omf or t  ab le .     0 ve r . 


Tape  25/9 


01  10  51  57    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     We  haven't  been  particularly  uncom- 

fortable, but  knowing  no  way  we  would  hit  the  Moon. 
Here's  MCC-2,  ^  -  SPS/G&N;  66786;  plus  1.21, 
minus  0.13;  035:29:59.09;  minus  0003.^,  plus  0002,1. 
And  you  cut  out  on  DELTA-V  .     Give  me  that  again, 
please. 


CC  Okay.     DELTA-V^  is  a  minus  0009.8 

LMP 


Okay.     DELTA-V^,  minus  OOO9.8;  132,  19!+,  3I13; 

NOUN  kk  is  NA;  0010.6,  0:02,  0006.5;  25,  233.7, 
16. 4;  rest  of  pad  is  NA.     No  ullage.     LM  weight, 
36281.     High  gain  PITCH,  minus  21;  YAW,  18I. 
Ferilune,  53.1. 

01  10  53  20    CC  Okay.     That's  a  good  readback. 

01  10        18    CC  17,  Houston.     You  can  go  back  to  BLOCK  now. 

01  10  5^+  31    CDR  Okay.    We're  in  BLOCK. 

CC  Jack,  a  couple  of  quick  items.     We  would  like  for 

you  to  terminate  the  BATTERY  A  charge  now,  and 
also  turn  the  H    tank  HEATERS  for  tanks  1  and  2 
OFF. 

01  10  55  31    LMP  Okay.     H^  tank  HEATERS  1  and  2  are  OFF,   and  I'll 

terminate  the  charge. 

01  10  55  37    CC  Roger. 


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Tape  26/1 


01  11  02  51    CMP  Okay,  Gordo,  there's  all  tails  and  05  on  that  P52. 

CC  Roger.     That  looks  good. 

01  11  03  02    CMP  And  you're  looking  at  NOUN  93.     Okay,  you're 

looking  at  NOUN  93. 

01  11  03  Oi+     CC  Okay,  and  we  go  to  torque  it. 

CMP  Houston,  Apollo  17.     When  we  ran  the  DELTA-V  test, 

we  -  we're  reading  minus  22.2  and  I'm  having  a 
little  trouble  finding  the  SPS  cue  card.  Wonder 
if  FAO  know  exactly  -  knows  exactly  where  that  is? 

CC  Stand  hy;  I'll  check. 

01  11  07  07    LMP  Houston,  if  you  saw  a  MASTER  ALARM,  it  was  the 

POWER  SCE  NORMAL  switch  getting  hooked  to  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

01  11  07  33    CC  As  far  as  we  know,  the  SPS  "burn  card  ought  to  be 

in  with  the  rest  of  the  cards  in  R-2. 

LMP  Gordy,  we  finally  found  that  thing.     It  was  way 

back  in  the  back;  sorry. 

CC  Okay . 

01  11  08  2U    LMP  We're  starting  our  purges,  Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

01  11  ih  50    CMP  Okay,  Houston,    We'll  get  to  the  attitude  in  about 

another  k  minutes  or  so.     Then  we'll  whip  in  the 
P30  and  go  right  into  PUo.     We're  doing  a  waste 
water  dump,  urine  dTjmp,  and  -  man,  the  sky  is  just 
full  of  little  bitty  particles . 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  Hey,  I  doubt  if  we  can  get  the  star  sextant  check, 

but  you  can  try  it. 


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01  11  18  h2    CMP  Okay.     Okay,  35:29:59-09  for  the  time.     NOUN  8I  - 

okay,  NOUK  8ls  are  loaded  good. 

CMP  Just  the  hurn  time's  good. 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  see  if  we  can  get  the  DET  started 

here . 

01  11  20  Oh    CMP  Okay;  got  the  DET  started. 

CC  Jack,  you  can  hring  up  the  high  gain  any  time  now. 

01  11  20  10    CMP  In  10  minutes,  Jack's  ...  good  shape.     Okay,  got 

that .  ... 

CMP  Yes,  he's  dumping  waste  water.     It's  about  15 . 

Yes.     Yes,  straight  up  to  RELIEF,  Jack. 

CC  And,  Jack,  also  we're  showing  10  percent  on  waste 

water ,  now . 

01  11  20  hh    CMP  ...   86,  LM  weight.     Okay,  OFF;  OFF. 

That's  what  I'm  doing  now.  To  what?  One  three, 
okay.  Here  we  go.  Set  ...  IMU.  Okay.  Realign 
the  old  GDC  a  little  "bit. 

01  11  21  U5    CMP  Okay,  GDC  is  aligned.     STAB  control  breakers.  All 

IK  and  good  shape. 

01  11  21  5k    CMP  MAMJAL  ATTs  are  RATE  COMMAND;  DEADBAWD,  MIN;  FATE 

to  LOW.  Yes. 

01  11  22  07    CMP  Okay,  TVC  is  in  RATE  COMMAND.     LM/CSM  is  in 

LM/CSM.     GIMBAL  DRIVE  is  in  AUTO.  Okay. 

CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.     We're  ready  for  the  high 

gain. 

SC  (Laughter) 

CC  IT,  Houston.     Do  you  read? 

CMP  I  think  there's  no  trim  on  this  ... 

SC  Okay. 


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CC  Apollo  17 >  Houston.     How  do  you  copy? 

CMP  Okay,  so  that's  ...  trim,  to  0.2. 

CDR  No  trim  if  it's  greater  than  2  feet  per  second. 

01  11  23  26    CMP  Yes,  we're  down  to  6  minutes. 

CC  Apollo  IT,  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

01  11  23  3h    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    We  got  you. 

CC  Okay,  we  weren't  getting  through  there  for  a 

minute  or  2.    We're  ready  for  the  high  gain  now. 

CMP  Okay.    Miniis  -  min\is  21  and  I8I. 

01  11  2h  06    CC  ***,  IT.     You're  GO  for  midcourse  2. 

CMP  Okay.     Sounds  good. 

CM?  And,  Jack,  you  ready  for  GIMBAL  MOTORS  -  I  mean 

the  BUS  TIES? 

LMP  Ready  for  the  BUS  TIES. 

01  11  2k  kl    CMP  Okay,  TAPE  RECORDER,  HIGH  BIT  RATE,  RECORD, 

FORWARD,  and  COMMAND  RESET. 

CMP  Check  your  HELIUM  VALVES  and  check  your  N^. 

01  11  25  01    CMP  Okay.     SERVO  POWER  1  and  2,  we  got. 

01  11  25  11    CMP  Okay,  got  SERVO  POWER.     ACl  and  AC2. 

01  11  25  16    CMP  AC,  DIRECTS  are  OFF. 

01  11  25  20    CMP  BMAGs,  1/2.  Okay. 

01  11  25  26    CMP  Ko  hardovers.     Okay.     We'll  go  to  SCS.  Okay, 

PITCH  1,  Jack  - 

01  11  25  32    CMP  MARK  it.     YAW  1  - 

01  11  25  35    CMP  MARK  it.     Okay.     Got  a  minus  -  plus  1.1,  okay. 

A  minus  0.13;  that's  almost  zero.    Okay.  Whoo! 
Man,  bounces  it  around!     (Laiighter)  little 
difference . 


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CDR 

Okay,  we'll  give  it  to  the  computer.  Clockwise. 
Go  TVC  TVC.     Okay,  PITCH  2. 

MARK  it.     Got  it.     YAW  2. 

MARK  it.     Got  it?    Okay,  got  the  trim,  about  a 
plus  12  and  a  minus  0,1.     TVC,  TVC,  TVC,  TVC. 

01tay>  give  it  to  the  computer.     Returns  to  zero. 
Go  TVC  TVC.  Okay. 

AC /DC.     DIRECTS  are  MAIN  A/MAIN  B. 

Okay,  zero  EMAGs. 

Okay,  50  18.  PROCEED. 

ENTER  it. 

Okay.     Uncage  EMAGs. 

Okay.     Let's  try  a  gimbal  test.     Plus  2,  minus  2, 
0,  plus  2,  minus  2,  0. 

Okay,  she  went  to  trim.  02:38  to  go.  Okay,  we'll 
reach  -  SCALE  was  5  what? 

39. 

Okay.    RATE  to  HIGH. 

Okay,  EMS  NORMAL  at  1  minute.     Yes,  we  use  bank  A. 

This  second  burn,  use  bank  A  only.     Okay,  so  in 
3  seconds ,  Jack. 

Okay,  cycle  to  MIN,  RATE  to  HIGH,  DIRECT, 

CMC  AUTO;  uncaged,  RATE  COMMAND,  GIMBAL  MOTORS, 
LM/CSM  and  GIM  -  AUTO. 

Okay,  Houston.  01:30  and  we're  going  on  board  for 
the  burn. 


CC  Roger, 


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01  11  28  1;0    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     No  ullage. 

01  11  28  U5    CDR  Houston  -  Houston,  I'm  stire  you've  seen  it.  We're 

reading  iDelow  the  green  band  oxidizer  pressure, 
about  163. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  (Singing)     Okay.     Let's  wait  until  30  seconds  and 

01  11  29  08    CMP  CONTROL  POWER  is  OK.     ...  DELTA-V  THRUST  A  switch. 

Get  it  and  EMS  at  30  seconds.     Ullage  -  no  ullage. 

01  11  29  28    CDR  ...  an  average  G  is  coming. 

01  11  29  35     CMP  EMS  to  NORMAL.     DELTA-V  THRUST  A  is  ON.     Okay,  no 

manuals  to  it.  You'll  get  the  99-  Okay? 

01  11  29  50    CMP  10  seconds,  Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

01  11  29  59    CMP  99. 

01  11  30  00    CMP  Uh-hoo!    There  we  go.  Lift-off! 

01  11  30  03    CDR  Okay.     The  burn  is  on  time  and  -  au  -  auto  shutdown. 

CC  Thank  you. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see  what  kind  of  trim  we  got.  Yes, 

we  trimmed  it.     Trimmed  it  to  0.2.     Yes.  Less 
than  2.     Okay,  plus  T  on  the  EMS. 

CO  Roger  -  - 

CMP  I  mean  on  the  R-1.  (Laughter) 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  trim  it  out  to  2.     Plus  0.3.     One  more 

chance.     Okay,  there  we  go. 

01  11  30  hh    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     You're  looking  at  NOUM  85,  and 

the  EMS  is  mlniis  3-3. 


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CC  Roger,  Gene. 

01  11  30  kg  CMP  Okay,  gimbal  motors  check.     Two  - 

01  11  30  52  CMP  MARK  it.     Two  - 

01  11  30  55  CMP  MARK  it.    One  - 

01  11  30  58  CMP  MARK  it.     One  - 

01  11  31  01  CMP  MARK  it. 

01  11  31  Oh  CMP  Okay.     SERVO  POWER  is  OFF. 

01  11  31  08  CMP  TRANS  CONTROL  POWER  and  DIRECTS  are  OFF. 

01  11  31  Ih    CMP  ULLAGE  circuit  "breeikers  are  OPEN.     Hey,  we  J  1:1st 

caught  up  with  all  the  particles.     They're  all 
. . .  with  us  . 

01  11  31  33    CMP  DIRECTS  are  OFF.     PITCH  and  YAW.     PITCH,  ROLL, 

and  YAW  1  are  OPENED.  Okay,  you  got  the  DELTA-V 
counter? 

01  11  31  57    CMP  Okay.     HyiAGs  are  caged.     BUS  TIES,  JACK? 

01  11  32  23    CMP  Okay.     BUS  TIES  are  OFF.     BIT  RATE  to  LOW,  while 

you're  up  there. 

01  11  32  57    CMP  That  shouldn't  change,  I  don't  think;  should  it? 

SC  Okay . 

CDR  Hoiiston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


01  11  33  32    CDR  Okay,  the  burn  was  on  time.     Looked  like  it  was 

about  2  seconds.     DELTA-V^^  was  0,7.     ROLL  was 

132,  PITCH  was  193,  and  YAW  was  3^+2,  Residuals 
after  trim  were  zero  -  plias  0.1,  zero,  and 
minus  0.1,  and  DELTA-V^  is  minus  3.3-     OX  007. 

FUEL  is  009  and  DECREASE  50. 
CC  Thank  you. 


Tape  26 /T 


01  11  3k  57    CMP  PAN  CAMERA'S  OFF.     MAPPING  CAMERA'S  OFF,  hiih? 

And  SM/AC  POWER  will  be  coming  OFF,  shortly. 

01  11  35  5h    LMP  You  know,  Houston,  we  must  of  caught  up  with  every 

one  of  those  particles.     Because  we're  right  in 
the  middle  of  them.     They're  going  kind  of  in  a 
random  fashion.    Most  of  them  are  drifting  right 
along  with  us.     Some  of  them  are  going  against  us 
and  away  from  us.     But  before  we  did  the  b\irn  - 
you  know,  the  propulsion,  they  got  out  of  the 
vent.     Sent  them  all  away  from  us  in  what  looked 
like  -  in  more  or  less  the  X-direction. 

CC  How  about  that. 

01  11  36  26    LMP  ***  we  really  got  a  star  field  out  there  now. 

CC  Roger. 

01  11  36  30    CDR  Say,  Gordy,  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P  is  1  -  That's  1.0. 

You  want  me  to  go  to  TUNNEL  VENT? 

CC  Stand  by. 

01  11  36  55    CC  Yes,  that's  affirmative,  Geno.     You  have  a  GO  for 

TUNNEL  VENT  valve,  VENT. 

CDR  Okay. 

01  11  hi  11    CC  IT,  Houston. 

CMP  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

01  11  hi  16    CC  Okay,  we  do  want  to  put  BATTERY  A  back  on  CHARGE 

as  shown  in  the  Flight  Plan.     And,  also,  I  have  a 
new  flyby  pad.     No  hurry  on  this  one,  but  it's  a 
flyby  pad  post-MCC-2. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo,  how  quickly  should  this  tunnel  vent? 

CC  Let  me  get  a  reading  on  that. 

01  11  1+2  11    CC  Geno,  that  should  take  about  an  hour.  We'll 

try  to  remember  to  occasionally  remind  you  to 
look  at  it. 


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01  11  1*2  2k    CDR  Okay.     I'm  glad  you  said  that  because  I  don't  see 

any  indication  of  it  moving  here  yet,  at  all. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Houston,  1?. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

01  11  1+3  5l^    LMP  Never  got  to  give  you  a  T-Alfa  reading  on  a  - 

after  the  last  charge.     It  was  0.6  -  decimal  6 
as  before. 

CC  Okay.     Ed  Mitchell  -  Ed  Mitchell  must  be  working 

now.     I  was  just  about  to  ask  you  for  that.  And 
for  Geno,  one  reminder,  you  will  have  to  switch 
back  to  LM/CM  DELTA-P  in  order  to  read  the  DELTA-P. 
Over. 

CDR  Yes,  Gordo,  I'm  -  I'm  aware  of  that,  and  I've 

done  it.     But  in  the  about  3  or  1+  minutes  that  I 
vented,  I  didn't  see  any  change  yet. 

CC  Okay.     It's  a  pretty  slow  process. 

01  11  46  30    IMP  Okay,  Gordy,  battery  A  is  being  charged. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And  I  checked  that  7-Alfa  in  the  VENT  position,  and 

it's  0.6  also. 

CC  Okay. 

01  11  52  16    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    How's  the  CMP's  "zippen"  or  SPN? 

CC  Let  me  take  a  check  to  my  left  here. 

01  11  52  27    CMP  I'll  take  a  deep  breath  for  you. 

01  11  5I+  29    CC  Okay,  Ron.     Your  ZPN  looks  good. 

CMP  Okay,  I  don't  have  the  other  one  on  yet.     But  I 

was  a  little  bit  curious  because  I  left  the 
electrodes  in  this  thing,  and  -  you  know,  the 
little  sponges,  I  left  those  inside  the  electrodes, 
but  they  stuck  to  -  to  the  back  of  the  electrodes 
and  kind  of  corroded  the  inside  of  it  there  a 
little  bit. 


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CC  Evidently,  it's  working  okay. 

CMP  Okay,  mighty  fine. 

CMP  I'll  put  some  new  ones  in. 

01  12  07  1+3    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  is  niy  heart  beating? 

CO  I'm  sure  it  is,  Ron,  but  I'll  check  to  my  left. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  We'll  wait  a  couple  of  minutes.     It  takes  that  long 
to  settle  down  and  give  you  a  reading  on  it. 

CMP  Okay.     No  problem. 

01  12  09  13    CC  Ron,  your  EKG  looks  real  good. 

CMP  Okay.     Thank  you  much. 

CMP  That's  all  new,  what  you  call  it  -  those  sponges 

and  stuff,  you  know.    And,  Houston,  I'm  not  - 
I'm  not  putting  -  putting  any  cover  tape  on  it, 
so  if  it  quits  -  you  know,  comes  loose  or  some- 
thing like  that,  well,  let  me  know  and  I'll  push 
it  on  again. 

CC  Okay,  will  do. 

01  12  10  50    LMP  You  might  make  a  note  that  Dr.  Evans  was  assisted 

in  that  operation  by  Dr.  Schmitt. 

CC  Roger,  Doctor. 

01  12  11  05    CC  Jack,  I've  still  got  this  flyby  pad  standing  by. 

LMP  Kag,  nag,  nag. 

CMP  Can't  talk  with  a  mouthful  of  bread  cubes,  it  all 

comes  out. 

LMP  Okay,  what  kind  of  pad  you  want  to  give  mel 

Flyby,  right? 


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CC  Right.     A  regular  maneuver  pad. 

IMP  Okay,  and  I  guess  the  other  one  I  can  cross  out, 

right? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     That's  obsolete  now  that 

you've  done  midcourse  2. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  I'm  all  set. 

01  12  12  12    CC  Okay,  it's  a  fly  "by.     SPS/G&K;  66678;  plus  1.21, 

minus  0.13.     Ignition  time  is  08I  :lU :  U3. 149  ; 
plus  OOi+3.3,  plus  0211.8,  plus  0I+53.2.  Attitude 
is  128,  ll*6,  317;        is  NA.  is  plus  0021.1. 

DELTA-V^  is  0502.1.     Burn  time,  l:l8,  OU9T.6. 

Sextant  star  is  25,  I89.3  21. h.     Boresight  star  is 
NA.     NOUN  61  is  a  plus  15. 60,  minus  175-00; 
1101.6,  3621+2.     GET  at  .05G  is  153:2U:03.  GDC 
stars  are  Sirius  and  Rigel;  256;  152;  069.  Ullage, 
none.     Remarks:  1,  burn  docked;  and  number  2, 
assumes  PTC  REFSMMAT.     And  that's  it.  Over. 

01  12  ik  51    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     Here's  yomr  readback.  Flyby, 

SPS/G&N;  66678;  plus  1.21,  minus  0.13;  08I : li+ :  i+3. 1+9 ; 
plus  OOU3.3,  plus  0211.8,  plus  0U53.2;  128,  1I+6, 
317.  is  NA.     Plus  0021.1;  0502.1,  l:l8,  0U97.6; 

25,  189.3,  27.il.     Boresight,  NA.     Plus  15. 60, 
minus  175-00;  1101.6,  362I+2;  153:2l+:03.  Sirius 
and  Rigel;  256;  152;  069.     There's  no  ullage. 
Remark  1,  burn  docked  -  docked;  and  2 ,  PC  -  PTC 
REFSMMAT  is  assumed. 

CC  Okay,  that's  a  good  readback. 

01  12  17  h9    CDR  Gordy,  I  might  mention  for  future  reference  that 

we've  established  a  new  list  of  consumables,  or 
at  least  added  it  to  the  old  one.  Now  includes 
gray  tape  and  tissues. 

CC  Okay,  you  want  us  to  track  those? 

CDR  It  might  help.    We  have  a  heck  of  a  time  finding 

them  in  here. 

CC  Roger. 


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CDR  Oh,  you  meant  q.uantitywise . 

CC  Yes,  ve'll  set  up  in  a  special  back  room, 

CDR  We  could  call  it  the  T-T  room.     Tissue  and  tape, 

of  course. 

CC  Roger. 

END  OF  TAPE 


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APOLLO 

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CC 

Apollo  17 J  Houston.     It's  been  about  an  hour.  You 

might  check  the  LM/ COMMAND  MODULE  DELTA-P  again. 

01 

12 

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CDR 

Okay;  thank  you.     We'll  do  that. 

01 

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CDR 

It's  2.2,  Gordo;  I  put  it  hack  in  VENT. 

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Okay. 

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CMP 

Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC 

Roger,  America.    Go  ahead. 

01 

13 

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17 

CMP 

Okay,  Gordo.    We're  up  to  2.5  on  the  tunnel  and 

still  venting. 

CC 

Okay.     Is  that  music  we  hear  in  the  background? 

CMP 

Yes,  sir.     (Music:    Up,  Up,  and  Away  by  Brazil  '66 

They've  been  making  f\m  of  some  of  my  music.  ... 

CC 

Yes,  it's  coining  down  to  us  in  living  stereo. 

CMP 

Reminiscent  of  yesteryear.     (Music:     Up,  Up,  and 

Away  by  Brazil  '66). 

CMP 

Music  from  America. 

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CC 

Rocr^T*-      TTnwnlr  vnn    fnT*  "hh^           r*pi>*i"         TT^n"t"  tjaq  TroT*\r 

appropriate . 

01 

13 

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56, 

CDR 

Gordo,  Ron  went  off  the  air  for  a  minute,  and 

j-ilYl  uZiLii.R.—r   IS   now  £1 . 0 . 

01 

13 

10 

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CC 

Okay ,  Gene . 

01 

13 

10 

23 

CC 

Geno,  we'd  like  for  you  to  let  it  get  up  to  2.8 

before  closing  off  the  VENT.  (Music) 

01 

13 

10 

31 

CDR 

Okay,  Gordo.    We'll  make  it  2.8. 

01 

13 

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36 

CC 

Roger. 

01 

13 

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32 

CC 

Houston.     That  was  a  slight  handover,  the  rea- 

son  we  lost  signal  for  a  second  there. 


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01  13  20  37    CDR  Okay. 
01  13  32  ho    cm  Houston,  17- 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Say,  are  we  going  to  have  a  pretty  good  viev  of  the 

Earth  out  of  any  CSM  windows  at  the  LM  checkout 
altitude? 

CC  I'll  check  on  that. 

CDR  We're  sort  of  blocked  right  now. 

01  13  32  59    CC  Roger. 

01  13  h2  31    CC  America,  Houston.     We'  re  predicting  that  your 

LM/CM  DELTA-P  ought  to  be  about  right  now,  about 
2.8. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  We  would  like  a  reading. 

CDR  We'll  check  it. 

01  13  h3  16    CDR  Gordo,  2.9. 

01  13  k3  19    CC  Okay.    Sounds  good. 

01  13  kk  31    CDR  Gordy,  the  reason  I  asked  about  that  view  of  the 

Earth,  we  were  sort  of  thinking  maybe  we  might  go 
early,  if  it  was  all  right  with  you,  and  watch  the 
Earth  a  little  bit  more. 

01  13        h3    CC  Okay.    We're  still  trying  to  get  the  answer  on 

whether  you'll  have  a  window.     Stand  by.     I  might 
have  it  here. 

01  13  50  06    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    The  LM  inspection  attitude  that  you'll  go  to 

results  in  kind  of  a  marginal  view  of  the  Earth  out 
of  window  1,  about  60  degrees  away  from  it,  bore- 
sight  line  of  sight.    And  we're  -  we  can  -  what 


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we've  started  to  vork  on  and  if  you  wanted  to  do 
is  you  can  go  to  kind  of  intermediate  attitude, 
which  will  be  the  LM  attitude  except  for  roll  which 
will  be  off  by  about  6o  degrees,  which  will  -  will 
give  you  a  good  view  of  the  Earth  out  of  window  1. 
And  then  when  we  get  ready  to  do  the  LM  entry,  you 
can  roll  that  additional.  6o  degrees  to  get  to  the 
proper  attitude,  if  you  wish.     Your  choice.  Over. 

CDR  Yes,  if  that  doesn't  bother  anybody  down  there, 

we'd  like  to  do  that. 

01  13  51  06     CC  Okay.     We'll  have  something  for  you  here  in  a  few 

minutes . 

01  13  5^+  02    CC  Okay.     If  you're  ready  to  copy,  I  have  a  VERB  1+9 

maneuver  for  you  that  will  let  you  look  at  the 
Earth. 

CDR  Wait  a  minute,  Gordo,  and  I'll  Just  let  you  load 

it  as  we  go  here. 

CC  All  right. 

CDR  Okay;  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay.    Roll  is  2U0,  pitch  is  089,  and  yaw  is  0. 

And  the  high  gain  for  that  attitude,  we  think  it'll 
probably  track  to  this  attitude,  is  plus  29  and  27. 

CDR  Okay.     Plus  29  and  27. 

01  13  55  03     CC  Roger. 

01  13  59  17    CC  America,  Houston.    Until  you  get  the  attitude,  OMNI 

Charlie  will  probably  work  better. 

01  13  59  3k    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    We  got  you  OMNI  Charlie  now. 

01  13  59  37    CC  Okay;  loud  and  clear. 


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Tape  28/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  Ik  05  13    LMP  Gordy,  for  your  information,  we  have  our  LM 

transfer  items  in  the  jettison  hag  ready  to  go 
over.    And  we're  pretty  well  squared  away  on  the  - 
all  the  command  module  stowage  now,  with  minor 
exceptions . 


CC  Okay, 

01  ih  12  58    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  go  ahead  and 

get  on  the  high  gain  again  since  -  and  stop  it 
Just  wandering  around  aimlessly.     And  how  does  the 
Earth  look  now? 

LMP  Sorry,  Gordy,  to  he  so  slow.     Earth  looks  great, 

and  we'll  get  the  high  gain  up  in  just  a  second. 

CC  Okay. 

01  li+  19  31    LMP  Houston,  17-     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Go  ahead.     You're  loud  and  clear. 


LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  going  from  south  to  north  on  noon- 

time, at  least  our  noontime  weather,  it  looks  like 
there  is  a  fairly  strong  mass  of  polar  air  moving 
from  the  southwest  up  towards  Tierra  del  Fuego. 
It's  mixed  with  some  cloudiness  that  extends  from 
that  area  all  the  way  down  to  the  Antarctic  ice 
shelf.    But  it  looks  like  some  pretty  good  move- 
ment patterns  from  the  southwest,  north  -  north- 
east.   No  strong  weather  waves  or  cyclone 
development  on  that  yet,  although  one  may  be  picking 
up  ahout  halfway  between  Tierra  del  Fuego  and  the 
coast  of  Antarctica,  the  -  where  the  front,  or  at 
least  the  cloud  masses,  curve  from  the  east-west 
direction  to  an  almost  due  south  direction.  Most 
of  South  America  still  looks  like  pretty  good 
weather.     There  is  cloudiness  along  the  Andean 
Ridge  and  also  in  the  Amazon  Basin,  stretching 
from  the  eastern  coast  of  South  America  on  up 
about,  oh,  two-thirds  of  the  way  towards  Central 
America.     It  doesn't  look  like  frontal  weather 
there.     It's  probably  tropical  convergence  weather. 
Now  there  is  this  -  still  this  small,  moderately 


Tape  28/2 


developed  cyclone  pattern  that's  hanging  pretty 
much  over  Buenos  Aires  now,  I  think.     Uruguay  and 
Buenos  Aires.     I  think  I  mentioned  that  earlier  in 
the  day.    And  that  still  is  there,  and  I  suspect 
those  folks  are  getting  a  fair  amount  of  weather 
out  of  it . 

CC  Roger. 

01  11+  22  00    MP  Except  for  scattered  clouds.  Central  America  and 

Mexico,  for  the  most  part,  are  clear  -  as  is  most 
of  the  Caribbean  Islands.     Cuba  and  the  others  are  - 
all  look  like  they've  pretty  good  weather.  There's 
a  little  clouds  off  -  cloud  pattern  off  to  the  east 
of  those  islands,  but  it  doesn't  look  like  any 
major  weather  in  that  area.     The  eastern  half  and 
Midwest  of  the  United  States  is  completely  cloud 
covered  right  now.     Iliere  -  however,  the  -  extend- 
ing from  Mexico  to  Sonora  and  up  into  Arizona  and 
New  Mexico,  and  possibly  as  far  north  as  Colorado, 
is  a  clear  band.     But  then  there  is  more  cloudiness 
to  the  north  of  that.     The  Pacific  regions  west 
of  -  The  West  Coast  of  the  United  States  is  cloudy, 
at  least  west  of  Southern  California.     I  cannot 
see  Baja,  so  that  cloudiness  extends  down  south 
of  -  into  BaJa  California.     I  see  no  strong  new 
frontal  patterns,  although  I'm  looking  right  across 
the  limb  at  the  Earth  now.     There  may  be  one  that 
would  be  lying  maybe  across  northern  California 
and  -  and  into  Colorado,  with  a  little  clear  area 
ahead  of  it,  possibly  in  Kansas.     But  then  into 
this,  a  solid  bank  of  clouds  that  stretches  from 
Brownsville,  at  least,  clear  up  to  -  well,  along 
the  Gulf  Coast  across  the  panhandle  of  Florida, 
up  the  East  Coast  and  on  out  past  Nova  Scotia,  I'm 
sure.     Florida  is  clear.     Florida  -  the  peninsular 
portion  of  Florida  is  -  it  looks  very  clear  and  some 
of  the  deep  turquoise  green  waters  to  the  south  and 
southeast  of  that  area  are  -  are  very  obvious  at 
this  time. 

01  Ik  2k  i+3    CC  Roger,  Jack.     I'm  following  along  on  the  satellite 

weather  picture  here  that's  taken  from  about  your 
same  vantage  point  and  -  although  nowhere  near  the 
detail  that  you're  describing. 


Tape  28/3 


LMP  Have  you  seen  today's  analysis  charts  of  the  United 

States  or  North  America? 

CC  No,  I  haven't.     I  was  just  told,  Jack,  that  the  - 

the  weathermen  and  a  lot  of  other  people  around 
here,  too,  are  following  your  weather  reports  with 
great  interest. 

LMP  Yes.     Does  that  mean  they're  right  or  wrong? 

CC  You've  got  the  better  view,  by  far. 

LMP  That  doesn't  prove  much.     Okay,  Gordy,  I'm  -  I 

suspect  that  that's  a  pretty  healthy  front.  I 
don't  know.     Your  weather  must  be  cloudy  and  bad 
today.     Is  that  right? 

CC  It  is.    We've  got  about  a  half-mile  vis  and  drizzly 

rain. 

LMP  Okay.     Vfell,  I  suspect  comparable  weather  extends 

all  the  way  across  the  eastern  United  States.  That 
looks  like  awful  dense  clouds,  although  there's  no 
obvious  frontal  pattern.     It  just  stretches  from 
the  Midwest  to  the  East  Coast.     And,  also,  there's 
no  good  indication  of  stratification  of  those 
clouds,  as  if  they'd  be  fairly  -  fairly  thick  up 
into  the  cirrus  levels. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  Looks  like  Arizona,  New  Mexico,  and  northern  Sonora 

probably  have  some  -  one  band  of  high  cirrus.  But 
other  than  that,  probably  a  beautiful  day  out  in 
that  area. 

01  1^  27  20    LMP  There's  some  transverse  cloud  patterns  over  the 

Mississippi -Alabama  area.     It  suggests  maybe  that 
the  jetstream  may  be  Just  north  of  that  region.  But 
otherwise,  there's  no  good  indication  of  jetstream 
position  right  now. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  28/it 

01  Ih  29  11    LMP  Gordy,  there  is  one  minor  weather  disturbance,  pos- 

sibly just  about  over  Puerto  Rico  or  maybe  just  - 
just  to  the  east  of  that  island.     No  strong  circu- 
lation patterns  ,  although  there's  a  hint  of  a 
cyclone  development.     There  might  be  just  a  small 
depression  in  that  area.     I  don't  know  whether 
your  maps  are  carrying  anything  down  there  or  not. 

CC  I  think  I  see  what  you're  talking  about  on  the 

satellite  picture,  but  I  don't  have  a  surface  anal- 
ysis that  goes  that  far.     I  do  -  I  just  now  got  a 
copy  of  the  surface  charts  for  the  United  States. 
And  there's  -  there's  a  front  stretching  from 
northern ^ Texas  northeastward  up  through  Tennessee 
and  Virginia  and  another  one  sort  of  parallel  to 
it.     But,  this  ...  southward  from  Louisiana  along 
the  Gulf  Coast  across  northern  Florida  and  on  out 
into  the  Atlantic.     And  I  guess  the  two  are  kind 
of  blending  together  to  make  that  irregular  mass 
of  clouds  you  mentioned. 

MP  Okay,  Gordy.     If  I'd  been  a  little  more  observant 

I  could  see  that  there  was  a  little  bit,  looks  like 
a  decrease  in  at  least  the  thickness  of  the  clouds, 
vertical  thickness,  between  the  two  areas  you  just 
mentioned.     So,  there  is  some  indication  here  of 
those  two  fronts,  although  they  are  contributing 
to  a  general  weather  pattern  in  the  eastern  United 
States . 


CC  Roger. 

01  Ih  31  06    IMP  I  think,  with  a  little  experience  in  this  business 

you  might  have  picked  those  two  out  of  that  mass. 
But  it's  not  immediately  obvious. 

CC  RoKer. 


LMP 


CC 


You  got  anything  on  there  coming  in  from  the  north- 
west now,  say  up  in  Wyoming  and  Colorado? 

The  way  it's  drawn  on  this  surface  charts  shows 
that  -  that  northern  front  that  I  mentioned,  just 
now,  sort  of  curving  on  up  through  central  Colorado, 
and  then  bending  westward  toward  -  through  Utah. 
That's  about  the  only  other  frontal  activity.  There's 
one,  probably  dry  front,  then  a  short  one  through 
central  Arizona  and  southern  Utah. 


Tape  28/5 


LMP  Okay.     Well,  that  makes  sense.     That  would  match 

with  that  -  what  I  was  thinking  was  high  cirrus 
m  Arizona.     And  also  I  can  see  how  you  could 
bend  -  that's  the  northern  front  up  through  Col- 
orado and  then  hack  westward  to  explain  the  pat-- 
terns  we're  seeing  in  the  clear  areas  south  of 
that . 

CC  Roger. 

01  Ih  33  Ok    LMP  Gordy,  the  zero-phase  point  now  is  off  the  coast 

of  Chile  and  Ecuador  -  oh,  mayhe  10  or  15  degrees 
of  longitude,  and  it  is  fairly  dull.     It  does  not 
seem  to  indicate  any  great  amount  of  choppiness 
or  wave  action  in  that  area. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  ahout  15  minutes  ago,  Gordy,  I  took  two  more 

Hasselhlad  shots  of  the  Earth. 

CO  Okay. 

CMP 


LMP 


LMP 


And,  also,  Houston,  frame  number  -  let's  see 
that's  16  and  17  ~  were  taken  of  the  Earth  about 
15  minutes  ago,  too.     And  that's  magazine  Sierra 
Sierra. 


Okay,  Ron.     We  copy  that. 


01  Ih  3k  55    LMP  Gordy,  with  respect  to  the  icepack  off  the  coast 

of  Antarctica,  it's  difficult  to  distinguish  pack 
ice  from  clouds,  in  general.     However,  the  clouds 
seem  to  pick  up  reflection  patterns  with  respect 
to  the  Sun,     And  using  that  as  a  -  and  some  shadows 
m  below  as  the  criteria,  it  looks  as  if  the  pack 
ice  in  the  South  Atlantic  would  extend  to  a  latitude 
almost  comparable  to  that  of  Tierra  del  Fuego  I 
don't  know  whether  that  -  that's  reasonable  or  not. 

CC  Okay.     I  don't  either.     But  maybe  someone  who's 

more  of  an  expert  can  clear  up  your  q.uestion  on 
that.     I'll  let  you  know. 


Now  to  the  southwest  of  Tierra  del  Fuego  there's 
a  -^looks  like  a  small  cyclone  develoning,  clock- 
— rotation,  just  off  the  edge  of  the  pack  ice. 


wise 


and  -  Taut  it  does  not  seem  to  be  closely  associ- 
ated with  the  frontal  activity  that  I  mentioned 
when  I  started  out  speaking  at  this  -  this  partic- 
ular time , 

Roger, 

There  is  another  -  there  is  another  one,  maybe  a 
front,  a  little  bit  ahead  of  that  cyclone  that's 
now  extending  north-south.     Starts  in  the  pack  ice 
area  and  extends  up  -  oh,  about  halfway  from  there 
to  Buenos  Aires  -  in  the  direction  of  Buenos  Aires. 
It  doesn't  look  like  a  veiy  major  mass  of  air  or 
frontal  system.     It  may  develop  into  something 
over  the  next  couple  days  though. 

Okay. 

And  centered,  Gordy,  at  about  1+5  south  and  say 
30  west,  there  is  another  cyclone  area  that's 
ahead  of  the  last  front  I  talked  about  that  doesn't 
look  -  I  think  I  talked  about  it  yesterday  -  still 
does  not  look  too  strong,  although  the  clouds,  as 
I  recall,  the  cloud  cover  is  somewhat  more  well 
developed,  and  circulation  patterns  seem  to  be 
better  developed.     It  may  be  an  intensifying  storm 
over  what  we  saw  yesterday. 

Roger. 

I  cannot  see  that  it's  associated  with  any  clear 
frontal  activity,  however. 

Okay. 

That,  I  presume,  should  be  migrating  in  the  direc- 
tion of  the  -  of  the  southeast  coast  of  Africa,  so 
we'll  keep  an  eye  on  it. 

Roger. 

And  that  reminds  me,  did  you  get  any  information 
on  the  -  that  -  what  looked  like  a  very  strong, 
concentrated  typhoon  or  hurricane  in  the  South 
Pacific  between  Borneo  and  the  Philippines? 


Tape  28/7 


CC  Let  me  check  and  see  what  we  got  on  that.     I  wasn't 

here  when  you  first  talked  about  it  evidently. 

LMP  Well,  it  was  one  that  they  didn't  seem  to  be  carry- 

ing, and  it  looked  extremely  well  developed  from 
here . 

01  ih  ho  3k    LMP  Gordy,  yesterday  that  -  the  one  I'm  speaJting  of  - 

was  centered  at  about  15  north  and  a  hundred  and  - 
make  that  about  117  east. 

CC  Okay.     I've  been  informed  that  they  are  -  the 

satellite  people  are  carrying  that  one  now.  I'm 
not  sure  whether  they  had  seen  it  before  or  didn't 
see  it  until  after  you  did.     But  they  are  aware 
of  it  now  and  are  tracking  it. 

LMP  Well,  we're  not  competing.     They  just  didn't  have 

any  information  for  me  on  it  yesterday.  We'll 
probably  be  able  to  see  that  again  late  this 
afternoon. 

CC  Okay.     The  one  that  you  just  gave  the  coordinates 

on  is  -  does  have  a  name,  -  that's  Therese,  Hur- 
ricane Therese.     And  ~  so  the  -  the  other  one  must 
be  the  -  must  not  have  the  name. 

LMP  Okay.     Wow  which  one  has  -  is  Therese. 

CC  The  one  you  just  -  the  coordinates  you  gave  almost 

exactly  pinpoint  Therese. 

LMP  Okay.     That's  near  the  Philippines. 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Between  there  and  Vietnam, 

01  Ih  h2  38    LMP  Okay.     Well,  then  that  sounds  like  -  if  that's  an 

up-to-date  position,  it  has  relatively  little 
movement  since  yesterday. 

CC  Soger.     They  show  it  moving  just  very  slightly 

westward. 

LMP  Okay.     Are  they  carrying  anything  south  of  Guam 

now  that  we  talked  about  yesterday? 


Tape  28/8 


CC  Take  a  minute  to  get  something  on  that.     They  don't 

have  a  current  map  shoving  anything  in  Guam  right 
now. 

LMP  And  we  also  had  a  storm  developing  south  of  -  or 

southwest  of  New  Zealand.    Might  look  at  that  one, 
too. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Jack,  are  you  making  these  observations  through 

the  monocular? 

LMP  Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Although  most  of  them  -  well,  at  this  distance, 

Gordy,  the  circulation  -  detailed  circulation 
patterns  to  say  what's  a  cyclone  and  what  isn't 
are  not  visible  to  the  naked  eye,  at  least  not 
to  mine. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  The  major  frontal  patterns  are,  however. 

01  ih  h6  Us    CC  Jack,  that  disturbance  you  mentioned  near  Guam 

isn't  being  carried  on  the  current  charts  here  as 
anything  significant.     They  do  show  some  cloudiness 
north  of  the  tropical  convergence  zone,  but  just 
that . 

LMP  Okay.     Well,  I  had  a  feeling  what  I  was  seeing 

yesterday  might  have  just  been  the  remnants  of 
Teresa  [sic],  which  I  think  went  -  got  into  that 
area  a  couple  days  ago.     It  was  not  a  very  well- 
developed  system,  but  did  seem  -  seem  to  be  iso- 
lated from  the  other  cloudiness  that  I  would  have 
put  into  the  tropical  convergence  zone.     That  was 
between  Wake  sind  Kwajalein. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  28/9 


01  ik  h9  03    LMP  Gordy,  let  me  try  to  give  you  a  description  of 

something  that  is  a  little  "bit  unusual  than  what 
we've  been  seeing.     The  -  there's  an  axis  that 
r\ins  from,  say,  the  outer  portion  of  the  Ross  ice 
shelf  along  the  -  and  Just  off  the  coast  of 
Antarctica,  then  bends  up  so  that  it  would  pass 
just  to  the  east  of  Tierra  del  Fuego  and  -  and 
then  continues  on  that  heading  so  that  it  would 
intersect  the  far  east  coast  of  South  America,  if 
It  continued.     Now  along  that  axis,  the  -  what 
appear  to  be  multiple  frontal  patterns  or  at  least 
linear  cloud  bands,  bend  very  sharply  and  change 
from  a  heading  that  roughly  parallels  the  axis 
around  the  one  that  is  roughly  north-south.  And 
some  of  the  front  -  frontal  direction  changes  that 
I  gave  you  earlier,  down  in  that  area,  are  -  also 
bend  around  that  axis. 

CO  Okay. 

LMP  And  there  Just,  oh,  there  are  probably  a  dozen, 

if  you  tried  to  pull  them  out,  cloud  bands  between 
the  Ross  Sea  and  Tierra  del  Fuego  that  bend  around 
the  same  axis.     Quite  striking. 

CC  Roger. 

01  ih  51  06    LMP  Now  there's  some  indications,  to  me  at  any  rate, 

that  the  Jetstream  in  that  area  may  be  essentially 
east-west  -  oh,  maybe  20  degrees  of  latitude  north 
of  the  Ross  Sea,  and  then  bends  down  very  sharply 
so  that  it  intersects  the  -  or  approaches  the  coa  - 
Antarctic  ice  shelf  to  the  east  of  the  Ross  Sea, 
and  then  maybe  it  bends  up  and  forms  the  axis  that 
I  Just  described  that's  causing  that  bending  of 
the  cloud  patterns. 

CC  Okay.     Sounds  like  a  good  theory. 

01  Ik  52  08    LMP  There's  a  linear  clear  area  in  that  area  north  of 

the  Ross  Sea  that  -  and  to  the  north  of  that  is  a 
sharply  defined  front  that  I  talked  about  earlier. 
And  then,  both  the  -  that  front  continues.  The 
clear  area  is  cut  off  by  the  axis  that  I  described, 
a  cloud  axis. 


Tape  28/10 


CC  Roger. 


LMP 


Now  that  shoiild  show  up  real  well  on  the 
250-mlllimeter  pictures  we  took.     Gorc3y,  I'm  back 
looking  at  zero-phase.    And  now,  apparently,  the 
exact  zero-phase  was  partially  ohseured  by  a  cloud 
pattern  earlier.     Now,  when  I  -  There  is  a  very, 
very  small  bright  spot  in  the  center  of  the  zero- 
phase  area.     Nothing  comparable  to  what  I  described 
off  the  coast  of  Australia  yesterday,  but  an  ex- 
tremely small  spot.     I  suspect  that  the  size  of 
your  bright  spot  in  zero-phase  has  some  direct  - 
or  indirect,  at  any  rate,  relationship  to  sea  state. 

CC  Roger. 

01  11+  55  ^9    LMP  Gordy,  as  you  might  expect,  the  whole  coastline  of 

Chile  is  -  or  all  of  Chile,  practically,  is  clear. 
Beautifully  exposed  to  us  here,  particular  the 
Atacama  Desert,  which  is  noted  for  that  particular 
characteristic,  and  -  at  least  among  geologists  it 
is.    And  the  coast  of  Peru  is  also  clear  with  clouds 
following  the  Andean  Ridge,  probably  the  -  certainly 
the  coast  side  of  the  Andean  Ridge.     Lima  ought  to 
be  enjoying  a  very  nice  day  today.     The  -  Ecuador, 
however,  looks  like  it  might  have  a  little  more 
cloudy  weather,  although  it  doesn't  look  like  any 
major  storm  activity. 

CC  Roger. 

01  15  03  12    CC  America,  Houston.     We  have  a  couple  of  words  here 

on  medications.     Is  everyone  listening? 

CDR  Yes;  we're  on,  Gordo.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     Geno,  you  mentioned  taking  a  nausea  pill  for 

some  gas  yesterday,   and  we  were  looking  into  some 
of  the  side  effects.     You  definitely  don't  want  to 
use  that  particular  pill  for  gas.     One  of  the  side 
effects  is  that  it's  an  appetite  depressor.  And 
there  are  some  pills  loaded  in  A-T,  along  with  the 
vitamin  pills,  specifically  for  the  purpose  of 
eliminating  gas.     We  would  appreciate  if  you'd  give 
us  a  call  in  advance  prior  to  taking  any  medications 
except  the  Seconal  and  aspirin.  Over. 


Tape  28/11 


CDR  Okay,  Gordj*-,  will  do.     I  was  aware  that  those  gas 

depressors  were  around.     At  the  time,  we  couldn't 
find  them  in  A-7.     And  so  I  took  one  of  those  other 
things,  whatever  it  is.     And  while  you're  talking 
about  that,  as  per  the  pref light  food  check,  gas 
is  very  evident  on  -  particularly  on  me  -  and  I 
think  I'm  suppressing  it  slowly.     But  is  there  any 
problem,  or  what  do  you  recommend  on  that  f^linol 
[sic]  or  Mylicon  or  whatever  it  is? 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by  1. 

CDR  This  goes  hand-in-hand  with  the  amount  of  gas  that 

I  experienced  preflight. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  And  it's  the  kind  of  gas  -  it's  the  kind  of  gas 

that  just  stays  in  your  stomach. 

CC  Roger. 

01  15  05  ^3    CC  Okay,  Geneo.     The  recommended  use  of  those  gas 

pills  is  to  chew  one  after  each  meai.     And  then, 
if  needed,  chew  up  another  one  before  going  to 
sleep  at  night. 

CDR  Okay;  fine.     I  chewed  one  after  breakfast. 

CC  Okay.     A  little  water  after  you  chew  it  up,  I 

guess,  helps  its  effectiveness. 

CDR  That's  a  basic  requirement,  I  believe.     The  effect 

of  it  has  not  been  too  obvious  yet  though. 

CC  Roger. 

01  15  07  51    CDR  Gordy,  you  want  the  0^  HEATERS  1  and  2  to  AUTO  now? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

01  15  08  06     CDR  Okay.     They're  there. 

01  15  09  05     CDR  Gordy? 

CC  Go  ahead. 


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CDR  I  don't  vant  to  cause  any  concern  on  that  gas. 

It's  no  real  great  pro-blem.  It's  just  a  slight 
discomfort;  that's  all. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     I  think  we  understand. 

01  15  10  31    CDR  Gordy,  I  have  just  eaten  my  first  peanut  butter 

sandwich  in  orbit  aromd  the  Earth. 

CC  Roger.     How  was  it? 


CDR 

CC 
CMP 


What's  that?  Well,  it  was  Just  as  good  as  it  was 
when  I  was  growing  up  -  which  means  it  was  great. 
I  grew  up  on  those  things,  as  I  recall. 

Charlie  Duke's  here  with  me  and  he   

Miss  the  lettuce.     Sure  have  missed  the  lettuce 
and  mayonnaise  on  mine  though. 

01  15  Ih  30    CMP  And,  Houston,  we'll  go  ahead  and  maneuver  onto 

the  LM  attitude. 

CC  Okay.     We're  watching  you.    Punch  it  in  there. 

CMP  Okay . 

01  15  27  20     CMP  Okay.     DIRECT  0^  is  coming  OPEN  now. 

CC  Okay. 

01  15  30  09    CMP  DIRECT  0^  is  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

01  15  30  55    CC  America,  before  you  open  the  equalization  valve, 

we'd  like  one  final  reading  on  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P. 

01  15  31  07    CMP  Okitydoke. 

01  15  31  17    CMP  Okay.     With  this  cabin  pressure  now,  it's  up  to 

3«5»  almost  3.6. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 


Tape  28/13 


Jack,  Houston.  We're  ready  to  terminate  the 
charge  on  "battery  A. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  29/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  15  35  30    CMP  CSM/LM  pressure  equalization,  huh?     Okay.  CRYO 

PRESSURE  INDICATOR  to  SURGE/ 3  and  verify  the  cryo. 
Wait  a  minute.     See  if  I  got  the  right  one  here. 
DIRECT  Og  is  ON. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo,  I  cycled  the  CRYO  PRESSURE  INDICATOR 

from  up  to  down,  hack  to  SURGE/3.     And  we  got  a 
MASTER  ALARM  and  there  was  no  0^  HIGH  FLOW  with  it 
at  all , 

CC  Okay. 

01  15  36  32    CDR  Okay,  I  just  did  it  again  to  verify  it.     And  that 

picked  up  -  it  picked  up  the  MASTER  ALARM,  although 
it  might  be  associated  with  the  fact  that  the  surge 
tank  is  down  and  coming  back  up- 

CMP  No,  I  don't  think  so. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     Although,  the  surge  tank  shouldn't 

have  caused  it. 

CDR  Okay,  let  me  give  you  one  more  try  on  it.  Well, 

that  time  it  didn't  ...  it.     All  I  did  was  go  up 
to  1  slash  2  and  the  ALARM  came  on. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  I  went  back  to  surge/3;  it  did  not.  So 

maybe  it's  coming  on  when  I  go  up  to  1  slash  2. 

CC  Roger, 

CDR  Yes,  there  it  is,  Gordy.     It's  definitely  repeat- 

able.     I  can  go  up  to  PRESSURE  CRYO  QUANTITY 
1  slash  2  and  the  ALARM  comes  on. 

CC  Okay,  Geno;  understand. 

CDR  You  might  note  that  -  hey  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Gordo,  you  might  think  about  the  fact  that  we  were 

getting  them  when  the  cabin  pressure  was  high  after 
launch.  And  there  might  be  some  association  there, 
also. 


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CC  Okay,  a  good  observation. 


01  15  38  05    CMP  EMERGENCY  CABIN  selector  to  OFF.     We  got  to  unbolt 

it  down  there  somewhere.  Underneath  the  commander's 
couch.  Okay. 

01  15  38  38    CMP  REPRESS  PACKAGE  valve  OFF,  should  be  OFF. 

01  15  38  51    CMP  Okay;  verify  DIRECT  0^  is  CLOSED.     Okay;  TUNNEL 

VENT  VALVE,  LM/COMMAND  MODULE  DELTA-P.  Okay, 
it's  greater  than  3-1.     It's  up  around  3-6. 

01  15  39  38    CMP  Okay,  we're  going  to  open  the  pressure  equalization 

valves . 

01  15  hi  08    CMP  Okay.     DELTA-P  is  2-1/2. 

01  15  hi  12    LMP  And,  Gordy,  battery  A  charge  has  been  stopped  and 

the  battery  compartment  pressure  is  still  reading 
0.6. 

CC  Roger ,  Jack. 

01  15  hi  36    CMP  Okay.     There's  the  DELTA-P  of  2.     We'll  close  the 

equalization  valve.     Yes,  we'll  monitor  for 
3  minutes  now. 

01  15  hk  01    CC  Geno,  Houston.     We  just  wanted  to  verify  that  no  - 

none  of  the  lights  in  the  matrix  were  -  flashed 
when  you  operated  that  switch  and  got  the  MASTER 
ALARM. 

CDR  That's  affirmative,  Gordo;  none  of  the  lights 

flashed  at  all. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  When  we  get  the  cabin  pressure  down,  Gordy,  here, 

we  might  try  one  more  time.     Which  Gene  Ju;;t  did. 

CC  Okay,  and  nothing  happened? 

CMP  That's  affirm, 

CC  Roger. 


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01  15  U5  ho     CMP  Okay,  still  holding  at  2.0  on  the  DELTA-P. 

01  15        kQ    CMP  Okay,  we'll  open  the  pressure  eq^ualization  valve 

and  when  the  cahin  pressure  gets  to  k.O,  hit  the 
REPRESS  0^  ... 

01  15  h6  57     CMP  DELTA-P  is  about  0.6,  we  might  make  it  this  time. 

01  15  i+T  20    CMP  DELTA-P' 5  -  Okay,  I'm  going  to  open  her  right  up. 

DELTA-P  is  0.2  now. 

01  15  48  29    CDR  Okay,  Houston,  the  hatch  is  open. 

CC  Roger. 

01  15  50  39     CMP  Okay,  the  EXTEND  LATCH  is  ENGAGED.     Red  is  not 

visible.     GH^  BLEED  button.     (Singing)     Okay;  GN^ 

BLEED.     Not  too  much  in  there. 

01  15  51  06    CI-IP  Okay,  PRELOAD  SELECTOR  lever  -  rotate  parallel  to 

the  orange  stripe.     Okay.     PRELOAD  HANDLE,  torque 
clockwise  to  unload  the  old  support  beams. 

01  15  51  32    CMP  CClanking  noise)  the  probe  is  big.     Whoops  -  Oh, 

okay . 

01  15  51  36    CMP  Ah-hah,  the  probe  is  loose  in  the  tunnel.  Okay, 

rotate  away  from  the  orange  stripe.  (Singing) 
Torque  - 

01  15  52  25    CMP  Okay,  we'll  probe  umbilicals.     Is  the  LM  POWER 

OFF?     Proceed  -  doesn't  make  any  difference.  DOCK 
PROBE  CIRCUIT  BREAKERS  undone?     ...     That's  good 
and  tight . 

01  15  52  56  (Clanking  noise) 

01  15  52  57     CMP  Oops.     Get  the  sergeant.  Okay. 

01  15  53  22    CMP  Son  of  a  buck.     Okay,  I'm  trying  putting  those 

things  back  on  now,  just  for  the  heck  of  it.  It's 
brand  new;  nice  and  tight. 

01  15  53  U8    CMP  Can  you  smell  nitrogen?     Smell  something  up  here. 

01  15  53  56    CMP  Okay,  probe  umbilicals  disconnected  and  stow. 

Electrical  connector  covers  are  closed.     Yes,  yes. 


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those  are  yellow  ones.     PRELOAD  HMDLE,  position 
against  -  against  the  umbilical  connector.  Okay, 
that's  done. 

01  15        18    CMP  SELECTOR  LEVER  is  in  the  mid  position.  INSTALLA- 

TION STRUT. 

01  15  5^  31     Gt^P  Okay,  INSTALLATION  STRUT  is  unstowed.  CAPTURE 

LATCH  RELEASE  HANDLE  LOCK.     Okay,  the  RELEASE 
HANDLE  is  unlocked. 

01  15  5^  57    CMP  Okay,  RATCHET  HANDLE  unstoved  to  the  full  exten- 

sion; hoost  to  the  first  detent.     That's  good  and 
tight  going  back  to  the  first  detent.     Okay.  Fold 
probe,  looks  like.     Yes,  it's  out.  (Singing) 

01  15  55  31    CMP  Ooooh!     There  it  comes.     That's  just  like  in  the 

simulator.     It  comes  down  by  itself.     It  comes  - 
pushes  me  out  of  the  way,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 
Okay.     I'll  get  it  a  little  better. 

01  15  56  00    CMP  Okay,  RATCHET  HANDLE  piilled  to  full  extension  and 

then  ratchet  one  stroke.  Gets  it  so  it  gets  it  off 
the  thing. 

01  15  56  25    CMP  Okay,  that's  one  stroke  backwards  now .     Okay , 

RATCHET  HAHDLE  and  INSTALLATION  STRUT  are  restowed. 
CAPTURE  LATCH  RELEASE  HANDLE. 

01  15  57  08    CMP  Okay,  CAPTURE  LATCH  RELEASE  HANDLE  is  rotated 

180  degrees  and  it's  back  in  the  recess.  Okay, 
let's  see  if  it  comes  out. 

01  15  57  20  (Clanking  noise) 

01  15  57  22    CMP  Ooops.     There  it  comes.     I  couldn't  see  it  awhile 

ago.     Let  me  look  -  the  PROBE  STRUT  in  the  way. 
That's  why  you  can't  see  it  until  now.     Where  do 
we  want  to  go  with  this  thing  down  over  here  at 
the  - 

01  15  58  23    CMP  Houston,  it's  a  nice  clean  ...   and  release  there  on 

top  of  the  probe.     It's  nice  and  clean  down  there. 
The  button  is  depressed.     There's  play  around  the 
little  button  on  the  end  of  the  probe  there,  too. 


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CG  Okay,  Ron.     In  aloout  1  minute,  we're  going  to  have 

a  site  handover.  You'll  "be  taliiing  through  Hawaii 
after  that  takes  place. 

CMP  Okay.     What's  the  docking  angle?     Blew  it,  I  guess, 

1.2  degrees,  huh? 

CMP  Yes,  I  think  I  better  ver  -  verify  that.  Just  to 

make  sure.     COAS  looks  great, 

01  15  59  Ul    CMP  Hold  a  minute.  Gene  -  wait  a  minute.     You  got  - 

there  we  go. 

01  l6  00  00  (Clanking  noise) 


NOTE:     During  the  period  01  l6  00  XX  to  01  l8  21  XX, 
the  CMP  aboard  America  was  switched  to  the  GOSS  2 
net,  for  which  time-annotated  recordings  are  not 
available . 


CMP  Am  I  not  looking  in  the  right  place? 

CMP  Let  me  look.     I  don't  know  where  one  is,  right 

offhand.     I'll  check  here. 

Ct<!P  Well,  just  help  me  with  some  terms  here.     1  was 

just  looking  again  at  sight  of  -  underneath  the 
power  bungee. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordy;  we're  at  the  top  of  1-13  and  all 

switches,  valves  were  in  proper  configuration. 

CC  Okay,  you  could  have  asked  me  and  I  could  have 

told  you  that. 

CMP  We  were  just  trying  to  give  you  a  plug  -  Well,  if 

you  don't  want  them  -  Well,  we'll  take  it  back. 
(Laughter)  I  shouldn't  have  said  anything  to  the 
world's  most  experienced  DLMP.  Right? 


CC 
CMP 


Roger. 


Ron,  at  first  glance,  it  doesn't  look  like  you  have 
one  on  "board  ...     We're  still  looking  though,  but 
I  don't  think  we  have  one. 

Well,  it's  kind  of  the  conclusion  I  came  to  when 
I  didn't  find  it  in  the  system  data  -  Hey,  I  got  a 
little  bit  to  tell  you  about  that.     Oh,  those  little 
ones  underneath  the  power  hungee. 

Okay ,  go  ahead . 

Okay,  if  you  look  at  the  docking  lights,  number  h 
up  beside  of  that  -  Oh,  kind  of  a  ...  looking 
thing.     There  is  a  snowman.     In  other  words,  a 
great  big  fat  thing  with  a  head  on  top  of  it .  And 
if  you  consider  the  fat  thing  with  the  head  on  it 
as  a  snowman,  well  then,  the  snowman's  head  is 
pointing  out  a  09:00  on  that  one.     Whereas  one 
that's  fully  cocked  and  latched  over  there,  the 
snowman's  head  points  up  at  about  11:00.     And  - 
Okay,  there  is  a  lever  that  comes  right  out  of  the 
bottom  of  the  power  bungee,  it  looks  like,  and 
then  it  comes  out  of  the  bottom  then  left  out  of 
that  lever,  is  another  silver  slot  or  silver  bar 
that  goes  from  the  lever  to  the  J-hook  with  the 
snowman  on  it.     That  particular  thing  that  connects 
the  J-hook  to  the  lever  coming  out  of  the  bottom 
of  the  bungee  is  visible.     In  other  words,  it's 
not  sticking  back  underneath  the  J-hook.  It's 
visible . 

Ron,  we've  got  just  a  line  drawing  here  and  we've 
still  haven't  got  with  you  on  what's  what  accord- 
ing to  the  drawing.     Maybe  you  can  hold  off  until 
we  get  a  model  of  the  latch,  then  we  can  stay  with 
your  description. 

Oh ,  okay ,  Gordy . 

I'll  give  you  a  call. 

Okay. 

It's  up  to  you.     ...     I  want  to  float  up  in  the 
tunnel.     Do  you  want  to  float  up  and  look? 

You  know,  the  congestion  I  had  all  day  yesterday 
is  just  about  gone. 


Tape  29/T 


LMP  Gordy,  you'll  "be  happy  to  know  that  putting  the 

LMP's  camera  together  is  500-percent  easier  in 
zero  gravity. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  It  hecomes  a  two-hand  process. 

CMP  Is  that  temporary  stow? 

CMP  Hey,  Jack,  if  you  get  a  chance,  take  a  picture 

"back  this  way. 

LMP  Okay. 

LMP  Putting  the  cue  cards  up  now,  and  the  cajnera,  "by 

the  way,  Gordy,  operated  for  two  frames  and  the 
Reseau  clean  lens  looks  clean  and  everything's 
fine  with  it. 

CC  Okay,  Jack;  sounds  good. 

SC  The  regular  type ,  huh? 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo,  on  the  top  of  1-15,  we're  ready  to  go 

ahead  and  transfer  the  power.     We'll  give  you  a 
call. 

CC  Okay,  Geno. 

SC  Okay,  the  LM  POWER  circuit  "breaker  is  IN.  What 

the  -  let  me  know  what  you  want,  okay?     Okay,  going 
to  OFF,  RESET.     Okay,  hack  ON.     And,  I  have  to  open 
my  . . .  again.     The  pressure's  been?     I  don't  know 
what  it  is. 

SC  Okay,  Houston;  we  got  a  good  transfer. 

CC  Roger. 

SC  Got  it  again  hy  hitting  the  panel. 

CC  Ron,  this  is  Houston. 

CMP  Yeah,  go  ahead,  Gor. 

CC  Okay,  we've  got  considerable  conversation  going  on 

here  a"bout  that  docking  latch,  and  it's  not  at  all 


Tape  29/8 

settled  yet.     The  primary  thing  we  want  to  guard 
against  is  the  possibility  that  it  is  malfunction- 
ing and  that  we  get  it  latched  down  on  the  ring 
and  can't  unlatch  it,  and,  therefore,  have  problem 
with  undocking,  or  possi"bly  even  prevent  it.  So, 
we'd  like  you  steer  clear  of  that  until  we  come  up 
with  a  final  solution.     Ho  experimentation,  please. 
Over . 

CMP  Okay,  I  understand.     I'll  leave  them  alone.  And 

just  one  little  other  bit  of  information  to  let 
you  know  the  handle  itself  is  not  free  at  this 
point  to  come  on  back  down  like  it's  -  you  know. 
Like,  if  it  were  fully  cocked,  the  handle  itself 
would  be  free  to  come  back  down.     It  is  not  free, 
I  did  not  try  to  put  a  whole  lot  of  pressure  on  it , 
but  it's  not  free. 


CC  Okay.     I  understand. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     GLYCOL  PUMP  2  is  OK,  it's  been  on 

about  a  minute,  and  we've  got  good  talkbacks  from 
batteries  1  and  h. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

SC  ...  CDE  buses  are  262. 

CC  Roger. 

SC  Okay,  Jack,  you  can  go  ahead  and  switch  onto  high 
taps  1  and  k. 

SC  Yes,  it  works.     Okay,  1  and  U  on  high  taps. 

CC  Roger. 

LI^P  Houston,  glycol  pressure  is  22. 

CC  You  faded  out.  Jack.     Say  again  on  glycol  pressure. 

LMP  Roger.     It's  22.0. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Well,  you  can  cut  off  the  decimal. 


Tape  28/9 


Okay,  stand  by  1.     Okay,  it's  on,  Jack,     l^o ,  wait 
a  minute,  I  got  to  go  get  it.     Which  one  you  on? 
A.     Okay.     Okay,  Jack,  I'm  SIMPLEX  Alfa.  Okay, 
try  it  again.     I  got  the  -  How  me?     Okay,  Jack, 
you're  cutting  out  on  everything,  and  all  I'm  get- 
ting is  the  end  of  your  transmission  there.  Okay, 
I'm  counting  -  1,  2,  3,  ^.     Jack,  you  read  me? 
Okay,  you  -  you  were  unclear  after  your  first  two 
words  in  every  case,  Just  like  you  were  cutting  out 
on  Boh.     Got  it  all  that  time.     You  read  me  too? 
Well,  that's  interesting.     Let  me  adjust  the  squelch 
on  this  one  here. 

Okay.     They  used  to  work.     I  can't  hear  the  squelch 
on  any  of  those. 

Jack,  ...  yo\ir  main  TRANSMITTER  and  RECEIVER,  OFF, 
and  B  TRANSMITTER   . . . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  30/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTIOH 


Note:     During  the  period  01  l6  00  XX  to  01  l8  21  XX, 
the  CMP  aboard  America  was  switched  to  the  GOSS  2 
net,  for  which  time-annotated  recordings  are  not 
available . 


01  IT  l6  06     LMP  Well,  it  shouldn't  make  any  difference  on  trans- 

mission.    Could  be  we're  so  close  that  -  that  I  - 
Ron,  it  might  be  that  we're  so  close  that  it  has 
something  to  do  with  overdriving  something  in  here. 
We'll  try  -  check  it  out  again  later.     But  it's 
loud  and  clear  now,  right? 

CMP 

LMP  Okay.     VOICE,  OK.     Okay.  T/R. 

LMP  Okay.     You're  loud  and  clear,  Ron,     How  me? 

CMP  Okay . 

LMP  Okay.     And  my  -  my  VRF  Alfa  had  to  go  to  2  on  the 

SQUELCH,  and  I'm  in  3  on  Bravo. 

CDR 

LMP  You're  loud  and  clear.  Gene. 

CDR  . . .  okay? 

LMP  Okay.    How  do  you  read  now? 

CDR 

LMP  Okay.     I  took  it  V  to  2 ,  so  it 's  the  same  kind  of 

thing,  I  guess. 

CDR 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  Challenger? 

Counting  1,  2,  3,  h,  5.  Over. 


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01  IT  18  03     CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston.     You're  loud  and  clear, 

although  we  have  a  lot  of  background  noise.  Not 
sure  whether  that's  getting  through.     Do  you  know 
if  Ron  is  still  on  VOX? 

SC 

SC  Hello,  Houston;  America.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  America,  this  is  Houston.  Over. 

SC  Okay.     Stand  hy,  and  Challenger  is  going  to  give 

you  a  call  on  S-band,  and  VHF  checks  are  "both  GO 
on  A  and  B. 

CC  I  think  I  side  marked  on  Challenger.     We  are  get- 

ting some  data.     We'll  stand  "by  for  another  check. 

01  1?  19  21     CMP  Do  you  acknowledge  that? 

LMP  I  heard  him  the  first  time. 

CDR  Okay.     ...  me  get  S-band  in  ... 

01  17  19  29     LMP  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  Challenger.     Counting  1,2, 

3 ,  U  ,  5 •     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     You're  loud  and  clear,  with 

the  background  noise. 

LMP  They  don't  have  a  good  up-link.  Gene.     I  -  I  had 

signal  strength.     And  now  I  don't  have  any  at  aJ.1 . 

CDR  Okay.     Houston,  Challenger. 

LMP  There  it  is.     Now  I  do;  2.2. 

CDR  Okay .  ... 

LMP  Tell  them  I  heard  their  transmission  to  you. 
SC 


LMP 
SC 


No,  a  few  minutes  ago. 


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01  17  20  3h  IMP 
IMP 

01  IT  21  13  CC 
LMP 

CC 
LMP 

sc 

LMP 

SC 
LMP 

01  IT  22  18  CC 
LMP 

CC 


I  was  at  zero  signal  strength,  and  I  heard  their 
transmission  ...     One  of  them.     The  first  time 
they  acknowledged  that  your  -  that  I  was  going  to 
do  it . 

Did  you  shift  my  hose  back?     Oh,  ... 

Hello,  Challenger;  this  is  Houston.     Do  you  read 
me? 

Okay,  Houston.     I  read  you.     You're  weak  but  clear. 
Signal  strength  is  fluctuating.     When  you  called 
me,  it  fluctuated  down  to  about  1.6.     Over.  And 
it's  2  now. 

Okay,  Jack.     You're  loud  and  clear.     The  background 
noise  I've  been  mentioning,  although  I  guess  you 
haven't  heard  me  mention  it  until  now,  is  what  we 
expect  in  DOWN  VOICE  BACKUP  and  LOW  BIT  RATE.  How 
have  you  read  this  transmission  all  the  way  through? 
Over. 

Did  he  say  "say  again?"     Gene?     Gene,  did  he  say 
"say  again?" 


I  got  a  little  bit.     Oh,  he's  got  3.   -  - 


What?     Okay,  Houston.     I've  got  3-'^^  on  the  signal 
strength,  and  try  me  again. 

Okay,  Challenger.  You're  coming  in  loud  and  clear. 
How  do  you  read  me? 

Okay,  Houston.     1  know  you  tried  to  transmit.  I 
could  just  barely  tell  that .     I  could  see  the 
signal  strength  vary  down  to  3.     You  were  modu- 
lating, aparently,  but  you're  not  getting  through 
to  me . 

Okay,  Challenger.     I'm  transmitting  simul  now  in 
both  S-band  frequencies ,  and  it  sounds  to  us  like 
for  some  reason  when  I  transmit,  the  up-link  sig- 
nal starts  to  break  up.     It's  just  the  way  you  see 
it .     Over . 


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01  IT  22  59  LMP 

CDR 

01  17  23  15  CC 
LMP 
LMP 

01  17  2k  31  CC 
CMP 

01  IT  25  01  CMP 

01  IT  2T  kO  CC 

CC 
SC 
CC 
SC 
CC 

SC 
CC 

01  IT  29  00  CC 


Okay,  Gordy.     You're  l)reaking  up  there.  Still 
modulating,  "but  I  cannot  read  you.     Would  you  - 
would  you  tell  America  what  you  said? 

Yes,  Gordy,  ve  read  you  in  America  loud  and  clear 
on  that  s  imul . 

Okay,  Geno. 

Is  he  talking,  Gene? 

As  soon  as  he  starts  trying  to  talk,  the  signal 
strength  drops  off  atiout  O.h.     Now,  I  have  had  - 
I  heard  him  loud  and  clear  one  time  when  he  called 
you  guys. 

America  and  Challenger,  we're  going  to  hand  over  to 
a  different  site  and  try  that  here  in  about 
30  seconds. 

What  else  do  we  have  to  do,  get  some  of  these  mags 
stowed? 

We've  got  to  stow  the  mags.     Here,  put  the  PPK 
where  it  belongs . 

Hello,  Challenger;  this  is  Houston  through  Ber- 
muda.    How  do  you  copy? 

Challenger,  this  is  Houston.     How  do  you  read  me? 


Back  in  Houston? 
Right ,  Gordo . 

Okay,  Jack.     I  think  he  answered  us,  but  he  was 
completely  lost  in  the  noise.     I  could  just  barely 
hear  somebody  talking.     Could  he  hear  us  okay? 

No.     If  he  did  hear  you,  he  didn't  answer. 

Okay.     It  was  my  imagination  then. 

Challenger,  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 


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01  IT  29  13    CC  Hello,  Challenger;  Houston.     Hov  do  you  read? 

SC 

01  IT  30  59     CC  Hello,  Challenger;  this  is  Houston.     1,  2,  3,  , 

5.     How  do  you  copy?  Over. 

SC 

CC  Can  you  tell  Jack  -  ask  him  to  verify  he's  on 

AFT  OMNI? 

SC  Okay,     I'll  have  him  verify  he's  -  That's  affirm. 

He's  verified. 

CC  Okay. 

SC  ...  earlier  when  he  was   . . .  that  he  ... 

CC  Roger. 

CC  But  on  this  last  set  of  checks,  we  didn't  hear 

anything  . . . 

SC  Apparently  not . 

CC  Okay. 

SC  There  was  one  time  earlier  when  he  had  zero  signal 

strength  where  he  said  he  could  hear  you  transmit- 
ting to  us  very  weak  but  clear. 

CC  Okay . 

01  IT  3^  Oi+     CC  Hello,  Challenger.     Hello,  Challenger;  this  is 

Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

LMP  Okay.     You're  loud  -  well,  you're  ahout  3  by, 

Gordy,  but  very  clear. 

01  IT  3h  l6    CC  Okay,  Jack.    We  can  hear  about  1  by  1  in  the 

midst  of  a  lot  of  noise,  but  we  could  tell  you're 
sounding  much  better. 


01  IT  36  33    LMP  No.     I've  got  2  now,   ...  3. 


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01  IT  37  23    CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston.     Going  up  to  you 

through  Bermuda,  and  your  -  you  should  come  down 
through  Goldstone .     How  do  I  sound  now? 

01  17  37  ^8     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

01  17  37  57    LMP  You're  1.8,  1.8.     Yes.     Never  heard  him. 

01  17  38  hi     CC  Hello,  Challenger;  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

01  17  39  52    LMP  Gordy  received  me,  didn't  he?    Well,  he  started  to 

say  something;  then  he  dropped  off. 

01  17  1+1  13    LMP  Now  he's  up.     Haven't  heard  him. 

CC  Roger,  Houston. 

CC  Okay.     We're  going  to  go  hack  to  Goldstone,  both 

up  and  down,  and  we'd  like  Jack  to  do  step  hOc  on 
the  checklist;  in  other  words,  go  to  VOICE. 
S-BAWD  VOICE  to  VOICE,  the  BIOMED  to  RIGHT.  And 
we're  going  to  give  it  a  try  in  the  normal  con- 
figuration. Over. 

SC  A  I7I+  and  t6  ,  gentlemen.     BIOMED,  RIGHT;  and 

S-BAMD  VOICE  to  VOICE. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

SC 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Houston,  do  you  read  Challenger? 

01  17  h2  08     CC  Roger,  Challenger.     Read  you  weak  but  clear.  How 

do  you  read? 

LMP  Okay,  Houston,     You  just  came  in  loud  and  clear. 

How  do  you  read? 

CC  Okay.     And  that  time,  you're  loud  and  clear.  Jack 

and  sounds  read  good. 


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01  IT  h2  26    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     Let  me  say  once  again,  way  back  when 

we  first  started  and  Gene  was  talking  to  you,  I 
heard  one  of  your  answers,  weak  but  clear,  with 
zero  signal  strength  showing  here.     Now,  that 
might  have  been  through  Ron's  VOX,  I  don't  know. 
Since  then,  you've  been  able  to  modulate  the  signal 
strength,  with  occasional  weak  words.     And  -  and 
then,  when  that  signal  strength  was  up  around  3-2, 
where  it  is  now,  then  you  came  in  loud  and  clear 
with  a  broadcast.     I  answered  you,  you  said  about 
three  words,  then  dropped  off  completely.  And 
then  we  -  we  changed  conf iguxation . 

01  IT  ^3  09     CC  Okay,  Jack.     That  correlates  with  what  we've  seen 

here  in  the  way  of  signal  strengths  dropping  in 
and  out.     Stand  by,  and  I'll  see  where  we  want  to 
go  from  here . 

01  17  Uh  25     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  do  step  T- 

We'll  check  out  the  telemetry  and  have  that  ready. 

LMP  Okay;  step  7- 

CC  And,  Challenger;  Houston.     Making  a  voice  check. 

How  do  you  copy? 

LMP  Roger.     You're  loud  and  clear.     How  me? 

01  IT  Uk  5U     CC  You're  loud  and  clear. 

01  IT        57     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We're  looking  at  the  HIGH 

BIT  RATE  for  a  minute  here  while  we're  waiting. 
Would  you  check  the  CROSS  TIE  circuit  breakers, 
panel  I6?    Verify  they're  open. 

01  IT  U6  09     LMP  That's  verified.     CROSS  TIEs  BUS  and  BAL  LOADS 

open . 

01  IT        li+    CC  Roger. 

CI  IT  ^6  56    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We'd  like  you  to  accomplish 

step  ninnber  8. 

01  IT  ^7  09     LMP  Roger.     Step  8. 

01  17  ^7  28    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  the  Challenger? 

1,  2,  3,  h,  5.  Over. 


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CC  Challenger,  you're  loud  and  clear.     How  me? 

LMP  Loud  aj:id  clear . 

01  IT  U7  38    CC  Roger. 

01  17  h9  07    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     Go  ahead  with  step  9- 

Report  the  ED  BAT  VOLTAGES. 

01  17  kg  16    LMP  Wilco.  Standby. 

01  17  50  07     LMP  Okay,  Houston.     ED  BATs  A  and  B  are  37.2. 

CC  Roger.     Okay.     And  go  ahead  with  step  10,  and 

then  we'll  go  back  and  try  to  find  out  what's 
wrong  with  DOWN  VOICE  BACKUP. 

LMP  Gordo,  say  again,  please. 

CC  Go  ahead  and  check  the  sequence  camera,  if  you 

haven't  already,  Jack,  and  then  we'll  have  some 
steps  for  you  to  check  out  what  was  wrong  with 
DOWWOICE  BACKUP. 

01  17  51  00     LMP  All  righty.     Stand  by. 

01  17  51  ig    LMP  Sequence  camera  -  sequence  camera  is  GO. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  And  I'm  ready  for  your  step. 

01  17  51  30    CC  Stand  by  1. 

01  17  53  hi    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We'd  like  the  RANGING  switch 

to  OFF /RESET,  and  the  VOICE  switch  to  DOWNVOICE 
BACKUP,  then  give  us  a  call.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.     OFF/RESET  on  RANGE,  and  DOWNVOICE  BACKUP 

on  VOICE. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

01  17  5h  05     LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     On  DOWNVOICE  BACKUP,  how  do  you 

read?     1,  2,  3,  h,  5. 


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CC  Okay,  Jack.     You're  readable.     You're  -  okay. 

Challenger.    We  read  your  transmission,  but  you're 
just  about  -  just  about  lost  in  the  noise.  Give 
us  another  count,  please. 
01  17  5U  3k    LMP  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  the  Challenger.     You  were 

loud  and  clear,  loud  and  clear.     No  different  from 
the  transmissions  in  VOICE,  and  coimting  1,  2,  3, 
h,  5.    How  do  you  read?  Over. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,     It  got  a  lot  better.     You're  -  you're 

perfectly  readable  now.     Sounding  good. 

01  IT  5h  57     LMP  That  sounds  good. 

01  17  55  13     CC  Okay,  Jack.     Would  you  go  to  HIGH  BIT  RATE? 

01  17  55  17     LMP  Roger.     Challenger's  HIGH  BIT  RATE.     How  do  you 

read  HIGH  BIT  RATE? 

CC  Okay.     Still  the  same.     Loud  and  clear. 

01  17  55  ho     CC  Okay.     We'd  like  BIOMED,  OFF  now.  Jack. 

03  17  55  kg     LMP  Roger.     Going  BIOMED,  OFF.     Okay,  Houston.     How  do 

you  read  the  LM?     DOWNVOICE  BACKUP;  BIOMED,  OFF; 
PCM,  HI.  Over. 

01  17  55  58     CC  Okay,  Jack.     You're  loud  and  clear. 

01  17  56  OU     LMP  Okay,  Gordy.  And  that  was  hot  mike,  so  that's 

working  fine  up  here.     And  you're  loud  and  clear, 
also . 

01  17  56  16     CC  Okay,  Jack.  Let's  try  PCM,  LO ,  now. 

01  17  56  2  3    LMP  Okay.     Talking  to  you  DOWNVOICE  BACKUP;  BIOMED, 

OFF;  and  PCM,  LO .     How  do  you  read?  Over. 

CC  Okay.     Same  old  loud  and  clear. 

"LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     Certainly  is  clear  up  here.  You're 

coming  through  5  by  at  signal  strength  3-2,  and  - 
all  appearances  up  here,  that  previous  problem 
was  an  up-link .     But  I  guess  you  were  not  reading 
me.     Is  that  correct? 


Tape  30/10 


CC  Well,  I  was  -  The  answer  is  yes  and  no  at  various 

times.     We  think,  though,  we  have  a  good  handle 
on  the  prohlem. 

LMP  Okay;  very  good. 

IMP  Are  you  ready  for  us  to  press  on  here,  Gordy? 

We're  all  stowed  and  -  in  pretty  good  shape  in  the 
LM. 

01  IT  57  29    CC  Okay.    We'd  like  you  to  check  one  more  switch 

first  before  moving  on.     Check  the  UPDATA  LINK 
switch  to  OFF. 

01  IT  57  ho     IMP  Okay.     That  is  verified  OFF. 

01  IT  57  h3    CC  Roger. 

01  IT  58  01    CC  Want  you  to  stand  by  a  minute  or  2,  Jack,  until  we 

verify  a  funny-looking  parameter  here  on  that 
up-link  switch. 

01  17  58  17     LMP  Standing  by.     What's  that?     No,  they  want  -  they 

got  something  looking  funny  on  the  up-link  - 
they're  -  I  guess  on  the  up-link  switch. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston. 

LMP  They  want  to  look  at  it. 

CC  That  was  a  bad  call.     We  were  reading  the  data 

wrong.     You're  clear  to  press  on  with  the  check- 
list now  on  page  1-20. 

01  17  58  50     LMP  Okay.     We'll  press  on.     Geno ,  here  is  your  jetti- 

son bag.     You  can  get  back  to  Ron. 

SC 

01  IT  59  08     LMP  Okay.     S-BAND  T/R ,  OFF;  VHF,  OFF.     I  can  hear  you. 

01  IT  59  2k     LMP  PM,  OFF. 

CC  Roger,  Geno. 


Tape  30/11 


SC  Okay,  Houston.    We  Just  transferred  to  CSM  pover, 

and  the  caution  warning  light  did  go  off. 

CC  Roger. 

01  18  21  25     CT  You  going  hack  to  air-to-ground  1? 

01  18  21  32     CMP  Okay.     I  heard  somebody  go  to  air-to-ground  1  that 

time,  and  - 

SC  Gordo,  we're  ahout  wrapped  up  here  in  Challenger. 

It  looks  like  there's  some  life  in  the  old  hird, 
huh? 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay.     We'll  give  you  a  call  when  we  get  the  hatch 

closed.     Ron's  doing  some  housekeeping  in  the 
command  module,  and  we're  going  to  take  it  slow 
getting  back  in. 

CC  Okay,  Gene. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  drogues  are  going  in. 

01  18  21  ho     CC  Roger,  Ron.     Got  a  couple  of  q_uestions  on  those  - 

that  latch  nuraher  h,  if  you  can  answer  them  for 
me . 

01  18  22  00     CC  America,  Houston. 

01  18  22  U3    CC  America,  Houston.     We're  back  with  you  after  some 

site  changeover.    How  do  you  read? 

CMP  Okay;  loud  and  clear.     How  me.  Bob? 

CC  Real  good,  Ron.     On  that  number  k,  latch  number  h, 

is  the  hook  back  away  from  the  ring  about  1  inch 
as  opposed  to  resting  against  the  ring?     Do  you 
have  about  an  inch  clearance  on  that  hook  right 
now? 


CMP  Well,  there's  about  1/2  inch. 


Tape  30/12 


CC  Okay.     Understand  about  1/2  inch.     In  what  position 

was  the  latch  handle  when  the  hook  was  first  moved 
back,  Ron?  We  it  kind  of  like  in  a  normal  stroke- 
back,  or  was  it  just  flopping  back? 

CMP  No,  when  I  first  looked  at  it,  the  latch  handle 

was  -  see,  the  hook  itself  was  over  the  ring  when 
I  first  looked  at  it . 

CC  Roger.     We  understand  that. 

CMP  The  hook  was  over  the  ring,  and  the  -  and  the  latch 

handle  was  flush,  you  know.     It  looks  just  like  a 
normal  -  hooked  docking  latch,  you  know. 

CC  Roger.  Understand, 

CDR  And,  Bob,  this  is  Gene.     I  can  confirm  that  it  did 

not  fold  back  easily,  because  I  -  I  checked  it 
yesterday.     I  didn't  check  -  I  checked  to  see  that 
the  hooks  were  over  as  well  as  where  the  handles 
would  fold  back,  but  I  obviously  didn't  check  to 
see  whether  that  one  was  seated.     But  the  handle 
was  locked. 

CMP  That's  right. 

CC  Roger.     Understand.     And  the  first  thing  you  saw 

was  the  depression  in  the  Bungee .     Is  that  -  is 
that  affirm? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm.    And  the  bungee  is  depressed 

about  3/8  -  3/8  to  a  1/2  inch. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  can  push  the  -  you  can  push  the  hook  about  an 

inch  away  from  the  ring,  but  the  normal  -  just  a 
resting  position  on  the  thing  is  about  a  finger's 
width  or  1/2  inch  from  the  ring. 

CC  Roger.     In  other  words,  the  loose  -  The  hook  is 

loose  so  it  flops  a  little  bit;  you  can  move  it 
back  and  forth.     Is  that  affirm? 


Tape  30/13 


CMP  Yes.     I  can  move  it  from  about  1/2  inch  to  an  inch 

from  the  edge  of  the  ring  -  clearing  the  edge  of 
the  docking  ring. 

CC  Roger.     Ron,  when  you  pulled  the  hook  -  when  you 

pulled  the  handle  back,  did  you  reach  and  pull  the 
hook  back  with  it,  or  did  it  come  back  with  the 
handle  like  a  normal  pullback  then? 

CMP  No,  the  -  the  hook  did  not  come  back  with  the 

handle.     The  hook  did  not  come  back  with  the  handle, 
Although,  when  I  -  when  I  pulled  the  handle  back 
to  -  you  know,  which  is  -  which  is  kind  of  a  nor- 
mally uncocked  position  -  and  then  it  wouldn't  go 
any  further,  you  know.     It  wouldn't  go  an  further. 
And  then  the  latch  itself  -  or  the  hook  -  the 
J-hook;  I'll  call  it  the  hook.     I  moved  it  off  the 
docking  ring  back  to  this  position  that  was  about 
an  inch  or  1/2  inch  from  the  docking  ring.  And 
it  stays  right  there  now.     And  I  can't  push  it 
back  up  into  the  docking  ring  at  all.     Can't  push 
the  hook  back  up  to  the  docking  ring  at  all. 

01  l8  26  28     CC  Okay.     We  copy  that. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     Our  plan  here  is  to  leave  it  like  it 

is.     And  we're  going  to  think  about  it  tonight, 
and  we'd  like  you  to  just  keep  pressing  on.  Just 
leave  it  alone,  okay? 

01  18  26  56     CMP  Okay.     Sounds  good.     It'll  clear  the  docking  ring; 

no  problem. 

01  18  27  06    CDR  Houston,  America.    While  Ron  is  putting  in  the 

probe  and  getting  the  hatch  back  in,  I'm  going  to 
go  ahead  and  maneuver.     How  does  that  sound? 

01  18  27  19     CC  That's  real  fine,  Gene. 

01  18  29  17     CDR  Bob,  are  you  all  going  to  want  OMNI  or  HIGH  GAIN 

on  this? 


01  18  29  2U  CC 


Stand  by  on  that . 


Tape  30 /lU 


CC  We're  all  locked  on  the  HIGH  GAIN.    We'd  just  like 

you  to  leave  it  on  HIGH  GAIN.     The  angles  you  see 
in  the  Flight  Plan  are  in  case  it  breaks  lock. 
That's  what  you  need  for  -  with  this  attitude. 

01  18  29  56    CDR  Okay. 

01  18  33  11    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  probe  is  installed.     We'll  get 

the  hatch  in  now. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  I'm  not  going  to  connect  the  umbilicals  unless  you 

really  want  to  look  at  probe  temperature. 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.     We  concur  on  that,  Ron. 

01  18  33         CMP  Okay;  good. 

01  18  39  29     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  hatch  went  in  nominally,  once 

the  probe  installation  strut  was  stowed  in  the 
right  position. 

01  18  39  h2    CC  Roger. 


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Tape  31/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  l8  h3  h6    CC  IT,  Houston.     We  -  we  are  recommending  quads  Bravo 

and  Delta  for  spinup. 

01  l8  h3  56     CMP  Okay;  Bravo  and  Delta.     Thank  you. 

"jI  IS  57  53    CMP  Okay,  Houston,     At  042 : 56 : 52  .OU ,  I  started  the 

stop  watch,  and  also  the  watch  read  18:30:01. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  got  that. 

01  19  02  2k     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     We've  started  on  the  heat  select 

radial  and  lineal  part  -  part  of  it.     The  little 
pie-shaped  things  are  changing  color  as  we  go  out. 
The  lineal  part  of  it  -  all  of  the  chips  seemed 
to  have  been  concentrated  on  the  front  edge  of  the 
glass,  and  they're  all  pretty  much  in  the  linear 
direction  or  in  XX-direction.     At  this  point  in 
time,  I  haven't  seen  any  movement  yet. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Aren't  they  on  ...  heads  the  same  way 

they  were  on  the  hackup  unit  the  other  evening  in 
the  White  Room  -  on  the  lamp? 

CMP  Yes,  all  those  chips  seem  to  be  -  well  -  in  an  XX- 

I  got  the  lineal  direction,  the  lineal  part  of  the 
experiment  in  the  XX-direction.     And  all  the  chips 
are  lined  up  in  that  XX-direction  on  the  front  or 
the  top  of  the  glass. 

CC  Roger.     That's  just  the  way  ou  were  in  the  backup 

unit  the  other  day  in  the  White  Room. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right. 

01  19  II  36     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     We've  started  the  cooldown  in 

LIGHT  5  position  there.     The  radial  cells,  they 

all  started  to  change  color  except  the  one  from 
about  10  o'clock  to  12  o'clock. 

CC  Roger.     Except  from  10  to  12.     We've  got  it.  Did 

the  lineal  ...  stay  right  in  line  there,  Ron? 


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CMP  Yes,  the  crystals  or  chips  that  are  inside  there 

didn't  move  at  all.     Yes,  they're  ...  -  - 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  On  the  color  patterns  hehind  there  -  the  one  on 

the  left,  as  you  look  at  the  unit  -  the  color 
crystals  only  changed  down  to  about  0-9  of  the 
first  square  as  you  come  down  from  the  top.  The 
rest  of  them  are  adl  black  on  that  partic  -  on  the 
left  row. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

01  19  12  kh    CMP  So  that's  the  maximum  extent  of  the  -  that's  the 

max  extent  of  the  heating. 

01  19  12  59    CMP  You  might  check  and  see  if  the  guys  want  to  heat 

it  a  little  hit  longer  the  next  time,  when  they 
do  it  in  the  PTC. 

CC  Yes.     Roger,  Ron.     We're  copying  everything  you're 

saying,  and  we've  got  all  kinds  of  support  here; 
we  -  in  fact,  we've  got  one  backup  unit  here 
watching  what  you're  doing,  so  we'll  keep  you 
posted  on  what  we  think. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Is  the  "backup  CMP  operating  it? 

CC  Matter  of  fact,  that's  affirm. 

CMP  That's  the  way  to  do  things. 

CC  And,  Ron,  we'd  like  you  to  stay  nominal  on  the 

heating  time  due  to  the  film  limitation. 

CMP  Okay;  will  do. 

01  19  15  09     CMP  Okay,  Houston;  IT  here.     Is  there  enough  film  in 

there  to  allow  me  to  keep  the  camera  running  while 
I  try  to  fill  up  that  flow  pattern. 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron. 

CC  It's  affirmative,  Ron.     You  can  leave  it  running. 


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CMP  Okay. 

01  19  l6  51     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  first  thing  I  noticed,  as  soon 

as  I  opened  the  FLOW  four  turns,  it  started  running 
out  a  little  "bit,  even  -  even  without  doing  the 
Inject.     Okay;  that's  because  the  INJECT  thing 
was  open  just  a  little  bit,  but  it's  all  right. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

01  19  IT  22     CMP  Okay;  I'll  try  to  squirt  some  fluid  in  there  - 

CC  Okay. 

CI^IP  With  the  fluid  inject  thing. 

01  19  l8  11    CMP  Okay;  I'm  tak^ing  it  in  quite  slow.     It's  noted 

there  are  quite  a  few  small  bubbles  coming  out 
with  it.     So  far,  so  good.     It  hasn't  overflowed 
the  -  the  first  capillary  ring.     And  it's  taken 
off,  and  it's  going  by  capillary  action  toward  the 
bottom  and  toward  the  top. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

01  19  19  26    CMP  Okay;  it  finally  met  together  at  -  that  part  going 

around  the  top  and  around  the  bottom  -  met  together 
180  degrees  opposite  of  the  inject  port  and  now 
is  starting  to  go  out  across  the  middle  and  fill 
up  from  the  inject  port. 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  20  58     CMP  We're  getting  a  lot  of  big  bubbles  coming  out  now. 

That's  after  about  a  turn  and  a  half. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

01  19  21  1+1    CMP  Okay;  that's  two  turns  now.     the  meniscus  is  still 

holding  on  the  first  inner  ring  -  it  looks  like 
all  the  way  around,  at  least  as  far  as  I  can  see. 
The  bubbles  -  big  bubbles  that  have  been  coming 
out  now,  and  also  the  fluid  have  taken  over  the 
right  half  of  the  bottom  of  the  dish.  We're 
starting  to  fill  in  a  little  bit,  maybe  a  fourth 


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of  an  inch  -  fourth  of  an  inch  circumference 
coming  around  from  the  left  side  opposite  the 
injection  port. 

GC  Roger. 

01  19  22  31     CMP  Okay;  I'll  keep  going  here.     We're  about  two  and 

a  half  turns  nov.     And  it  looks  like  all  of  the 
hubbies  have  already  come  out.     We're  getting  real 
fluid  now  coming  out.     It's  a  real  pretty  picture 
anyhow . 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  22  55     CMP  Okay;  that's  three  turns.     I  don't  believe  we're 

going  to  be  able  to  cover  the  entire  bottom  with 
the  four  turns . 

01  19  23  27     CMP  Okay.     That's  four  turns,  and  -  it's  covered  up 

the  right  -  oh,  three- fourths  of  the  floor  of  the 
thing  and  about  three-eights  of  an  inch  on  the 
left  side  of  the  -  of  the  floor  -  three-eights  of 
an  inch  annul us  all  the  way  around,  except  for 
the  right  -  oh,  say  right  two-thirds  of  the  floor. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     You  can  use  more  than  four  turns  if 

you  need  it. 

01  19  2k  02     CMP  Okay;  let's  go  ahead  and  try  to  cover  up  the  whole 

floor  on  the  thing  before  we  do  it.     The  bubbles 
are  in  there,  and  I'm  afraid  they're  going  to 
stay  un  -  unless  they  disappear  when  we  heat  it. 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  24  35     CMP  There  now  it's  -  it's  coming  out  with  no  bubbles 

now,  and  it  looks  like  It  almost  formed  a  meniscus 
on  top  of  itself  -  on  top  of  where  the  bubbles 
were . 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Is  it  continuing  to  spread  out? 

CMP  Yes,  it's  continuing  to  spread  out  now,  and 

without  pumping  anything  into  it  at  all  -  I  did 
that  last  turn  fairly  fast  -  and  it  seems  to  be 


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spreading  of  its  own  accord  now,  and  it  should 
go  on  over  axid  cover  up  the  "bottonij  I  think.  Once 
it  completely  covers  up  the  hottom,  I  think  we 
should  go  ahead  and  start  the  heat  HIGH  on  this 
pattern. 

01  19  25  59     CMP  Okay.     Now  the  -  Everything's  all  hooked  together 

now.     We  completel^f  filled  up  the  "bottom  of  the 
floor. 

01  19  26  15     CMP  Hey,  for  some  reason,  the  "bubbles  seem  to  be 

starting  to  break  now. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that,  Ron. 

01  19  26  53     CMP  Okay.     I  don't  know  if  it's  coincidence  or  what, 

but  all  the  bubbles  are  formed  together,  essen- 
tially in  the  center  ~  in  more  or  less  at  least  - 
I  mean  -  yes,  along  the  plus-X-axis  direction. 
And  they're  about  1  inch  wide.     And  then  they 
start  about  three-quarters  -  I  mean  three-eights 
of  an  inch  in  from  the  circumference. 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  27  58    CMP  Okay;  I  was  going  to  try  to  break  the  bubbles  with 

a  pencil,  but  if  you  try  to  push  a  pencil  into  the 
bubble,  it  just  moves  aside. 

01  19  28  23     CMP  So  that  being  the  case,  I'm  going  to  go  ahead  and 

start  the  -  start  the  timer. 

CC  We  concur  on  that,  Ron. 

LMP  That's  called  the  old  push-a-bubble-with-a-pencil 

trick. 

CC  Roger.     Just  need  a  sharper  pencil,  Jack. 

LMP  Either  that  or  a  thinner  bubble. 

01  19  29  l8    LMP  This  is  the  best  Friday  afternoon  matinee  I've  ever 

been  to. 

CC  How  about  Friday  evening,  Jack? 


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LMP  Well,  I've  lost  track.     I  don't  think  -  I  don't 

think  there's  any  ...  - 


CMP  Stand  by. 

01  19  29  38    CMP  mSK.     That  was  1  minute  after  the  start. 

CO  Roger . 

CMP  I'll  give  you  another  mark  when  I  go  to  HIGH  on 

the  -  with  the  SELECT  switch. 

01  19  30  38    CMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  31  36    CMP  Each  buhble  looks  like  it's  locus  of  -  it  looks 

like  it's  starting  one  of  the  Berau  -  Bernudi 
cells . 


CC  Say  that  again,  Ron? 

CMP  Okay;  each  one  of  those  bubbles  looks  like  it's 

the  locus  -  or  the  start  of  one  of  the  Benard 
cells . 


CC  Roger. 

Ct<IP  So  far,  the  bubbles  aren't  breaking. 

CC  We  copy  that . 

LI^  Is  Stu  getting  -  did  Stu  get  bubbles  on  his 

pattern.  Bob? 


CC  We're  not  running  it  down  here.     We're  just  demon- 

strating on  the  demonstrator  there,  but  Stu  can 
tell  you. 

LMP  Oh,  I  thought  you  were  running  -  - 

MCC  Roger,  Jack.     Yes,  I  -  you're  talking  of  the  one 

that  -  that  we  did,  right? 


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lMP  That's  right-     Well,  I  am  now.     I  thought  you  were 

running  it  down  there  also. 

MCC  lio.     Okay.     The  one  that  we  did  in  flight  -  Yes, 

I  had  -  I  had  a  lot  of  "bubbles,  but  I  couldn't  get 
mine  -  Krytox  out  across  the  center.     So,  you  all 
are  already  well  ahead  of  what  I  did. 

LMP  Gee,  I'm  sorry  you  had  to  admit  that,  Stu. 

MCC  Oh,  you  all  just  do  such  good  work. 

01  19  33  05     CMP  Okay,  the  thing  is,  it  seems  to  me  like,  in  one  g, 

the  Benard  cells  started  completely  back  to  the 
edge,  you  know,  right  back  to  the  edge  of  the 
circle.     And  in  this  case,  at  least,  they  haven't 
filled  in  yet  back  to  the  edge  of  the  circle  at 
all.     They  all  started  out  in  the  center  and  are 
working  around  the  bubbles,  and  then  it's  now  - 
just  now  starting  to  form  a  few  of  them  where 
there  aren't  ajay  bubbles. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.. 

01  19  33  37    MCC  How  large  are  the  cells,  Ron? 

CMP  Well,  they're  varying  considerably  in  size.     I  can 

see  one  that's  about  a  half  an  inch  across,  and 
then  the  other  ones  -  they've  got  a  great  big 
bubble  in  it,  and  yet  the  cell  itself  is  down  to 
maybe  an  eighth  of  an  inch.     The  bigger  ones  seem 
to  be  on  the  outside;  and,  of  course,  there  are 
very  few  bubbles  on  the  outside  also. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  And  the  bigger  ones,  generally  right  now,  are 

averaging  about  -  oh,  a  fourth  to  three-eights  of 

an  inch  in  their  cross  -  cross  section  . . . 

01  19  3U  57    CMP  The  cells  tend  to  be  somewhat  polygonal.  Let's 

see,  we've  been  going  6  minutes  -  h  minutes  into 
the  heating  part  of  it,  and  the  -  the  cells  are 
polygonal,  but  they  don't  seem  to  be  quite  as  -  as 
stralghtlined  as  they  were  on  the  ground. 


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CG  Roger.     We  copy. 

01  19  36  18    CMP  It  almost  looks  like  it's  reached  a  steady  state 

now.     It's  9  minus  2  -  T  minutes. 

CC  Roger. 

01  19  36  30     CMP  Hey,  I  think  the  one  thing  I  neglected  to  mention 

is  that  we  essentially  have  a  convex  surface  from 
the  -  the  material;  in  other  words,  con  -  convex 
with  the  high  part  in  the  middle;  and,  of  course, 
that's  where  the  huhhles  are,  too,  but  I  think 
you'd  generally  have  that  type  of  a  surface  anyhow. 
And,  it  hasn't  "broken  the  meniscus  of  the  lower, 
or  the  thinnest  ring. 

01  19  37  35    LMP  We  should  have  had  some  popcorn  on  our  stowage 

list. 

CC  Roger-. 

01  19  39  ^8     CMP  Okay;  now  the  Benard  cells  are  starting  to  form 

in  that  outer  annul us  that  went  all  the  way  around. 

CG  Roger. 

01  19  i+5  55     CMP  Okay;  we  went  back  to  light  h  now.     And  we  never 

did  get  any  real  beliginal  [sic]  cells  formed 
around  the  outer  annulus .     And  even  the  cells  that 
were  formed  on  the  thing,  it  seemed  like  the 
particle  flow  within  the  cells  was  very  slow  when 
you  compare  that  with  the  way  it  was  in  one  g. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

01  19  hQ  03    CMP  Okay;  I'm  trying  to  -  such  the  stuff  back  in  the  - 

the  entry  tube  there,  and  it  looks  like  part  of 
it's  going  in. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy  that. 

01  19  ^9  07    CMP  And  the  camera  is  down  to  about  50  percent  here, 

so  I'm  going  to  go  ahead  and  turn  it  off  now. 

GC  Roger,  Ron. 


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01  19  ^9  ^0     CC  Ron,  if  ±  didn't  tell  you,  we  concur  with  turning 

the  DAC  off  there. 

CMP  Okay;  yes,  I  got  you.     I'll  turn  it  off. 

01  19  50  06     CMP  You  know,  I  Just  happened  to  think,  after  I've 

already  sucked  part  of  those  bubbles  back  in  there, 
we've  got  enough  fluid  in  there  to  pump  it  out 
the  next  time  without  sucking  that  back  in  there, 
don't  we? 

MCC  I'm  sorry,  Ron.     Say  that  again. 

CMP  Don't  we  have  enough  of  the  Krytox  fluid  without 

sucking  that  back  in  there?     Maybe  I  can  just  wipe 
the  Krytox  off  with  some  Kleenex,  and  maybe  there 
won't  be  any  bubbles  the  next  time. 

MCC  Okay;  stand  by. 

01  19  51  00     MCC  Ron,  I  guess  we  understand  you've  pulled  some 

back  in,  but  you  haven't  pulled  any  of  the  bubbles. 
Now,  if  you  pull  any  more  in,  you're  going  to  start 
the  bubbles  back  in.     Is  that  correct? 

CMP  Yes;  that's  correct. 

MCC  Okay;  why  don't  you  stand  by  here  on  that  then? 

CMP  Let  me  see  -  I'll  see  if  I  can  push  the  bubbles 

out  of  the  way  here  with  something. 

01  19  51  29     MCC  Okay.     The  consensus  is  that  we  would  like  to  not 

pull  the  bubbles  back  in.     I  think  you've  got  a 
good  idea. 

CMP  Okay. 

MCC  It's  the  old  keep-the-bubbles-out-of-the-Krytox 

trick. 

01  19  51  U8    CMP  (Laughter)     Okay;   I'll  see  If  I  can  do  it. 

01  19  52  09     LMP  I  see  you're  finally  getting  caught  up  in  the 

humor  of  the  thing  there,  Stu. 


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MCC  Oh,  I've  always  been  in  good  humor.     It  sure 

sounded  like  that  batt  did  the  trick,  Ron. 

CMP  Yes,  I  think  it  did,  too.     It  looks  like  it  worked 

real  well. 

01  19  56  21    MCC  And,  17,  jiost  so  you  say  we  didn't  give  you  our 

cue,  we're  standing  by  for  the  1-17  procedures 
there  in  your  Experiments  Checklist  -  the  film 
cycling. 

CMP  Okay;  we'll  have  to  get  that  shortly. 

MCC  Okay. 

01  19  57  53     LMP  Okay,  Stu,  we  got  you  on  that.     The  Saturday 

afternoon  or  Friday  evening  matinee  was  absorbing 
us  so,  we  almost  missed  it. 

MCC  Okay. 

01  20  03  28    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     DATA  SYSTEMS  coming  ON. 

CC  Roger. 

01  20  03  39     LMP  AUX  TV's  to  SCIENCE,  and  SM/AC  POWER  is  coming  ON. 

CC  Roger, 

LMP  Okay;  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  STANDBY  - 

01  20  03  51     LMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Roger.     Mark  it. 

LMP  PAH  CAMERA  MODE,  STANDBY  - 

01  20  03  59     LMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  I  guess  that's  verified. 

01  20  Oi*  21     LMP  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  to  POWER. 

01  20  Oi;  23    CMP  Barber  pole  and  a  gray. 


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cc 

Roger . 

01 

20 

Oh 

3h 

CMP 

t^JLJjr    ±i:jO±    xti    going   T>0   ilciAXlliriD . 

01 

20 

05 

06 

LMP 

Okay;  we're  standing  by  for  your  cue  on  MAPPING 

CAMERA,  OH,  and  SELF  TEST, 

CC 

Roger.     Stand  by  on  that. 

01 

20 

05 

51 

CC 

IT,  you're  GO  for  cycling  the  pan  camera  and  the 

mapping  camera. 

01 

20 

06 

00 

LMP 

Okay. 

01 

20 

06 

13 

CMP 

Okay;  MAPPING  CAMERA  has  gone  ON;  FAN  CAMERA  to 

SELF  TEST.     Barber  pole  and  release. 

01 

20 

06 

CC 

Looks  lik  10  seconds  on  the  PAN  CAMERA  there. 

01 

20 

07 

28 

CI^IP 

Okay;  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  coming  OFF. 

CC 

Roger,  Ron. 

01 

20 

08 

21 

Gl'^P 

Okay;  MAPPING  CAT-IERA  siainu  OFF 

GC 

Roger,  Ron, 

01 

20 

09 

0*4 

CC 

That's  30  seconds  off  on  the  mapping  camera,  Ron 

01 

20 

09 

11 

CMP 

Okay;  SM/AC  is  OFF. 

01 

20 

09 

19 

LMP 

S-BAND  AUX  TV's  OFF,  and  BIT  RATE,  LOW,  now? 

CC 

That's  affirmative. 

01 

20 

09 

h3 

LMP 

Say,  Bob,  say  again  those  jetts  you're  commended 

for  PTC. 

CC  We  recommended  Bravo  and  and  Delta  for  spinup  - 

B,  D. 

LMP  Ckay;  do  the  rates  look  okay  to  you? 

CC  Tliat's  affirmative. 


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01  20  11  02     CC  Jack,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Jack,  when  you  get  done  with  the  PTC  area  here, 

we'd  like  you  to  get  out  the  Flight  Plan  Supplement 
We'd  like  to  get  a  food  report  from  you  all  on 
your  food  intake  for  toda^". 

LMP  1  thought  we  gave  you  that  in  the  morning.  Happy 

to  do  it ,  hut  -  - 

CC  That's  affirm.  Jack  

LMP  You  want  a  special  report?    Is  that  what  you  want? 

CC  We'd  just  like  to  have  it  -  prefer  tonight. 

CMP  It  sounds  like  you  don't  think  we're  eating  enough. 

01  20  11  h2     CC  Ron,  would  you  check  your  NOIM  78? 

CMP  Ah-ha!     Thank  you. 

CC  Roger. 

01  20  13  30     CC  Jack  or  Ron,  when  you  come  around,  we'll  ask  you 

to  stow  the  high  gain  on  our  call,  and  we'll  he 
wanting  OMNI  Bravo. 

LMP  Roger. 

LMP  And  are  you  ready  for  the  trotting  gourmet's 

report? 

CC  roger.     Everybody's  here  with  all  ears. 

01  20  Ik  02    LMP  Okay.     The  CDR  today  had  scrambled  eggs  and  three 

hacon  sc^uares  and  a  can  of  peaches  and  pineapple 
drink  for  breakfast.     And  then  later  on  in  the 
day,  he  had  peanut  butter.  Jelly,  and  bread  with 
a  chocolate  bar  and  some  dried  apricots.     The  LMP 
had  scrambled  eggs  and  four  bacon  squares,  an 
orange  drink,  and  cocoa  for  breakfast,  and  potato 
soup,  two  peanut  butter  and  Jelly  sandwiches,  and 


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a  cherry  bar,  and  an  orange  drink.     And  that  hero 
of  the  matinee,  the  matinee  idol  of  Spaceship 
America,  had  scrambled  eggs,  tiacon  squares, 
peaches,  cinnamon  toast,  orange  juice,  and  cocoa 
for  breakfast.     That's  how  he  keeps  his  form.  And, 
for  l\mch,  he  had  a  peanut  butter  sandwich  and 
citrus  beverage.     And  that's  it,  since  there's 
nobody  else  up  here. 

01  20  15  i+5     CC  Roger.    We  copy  that.     We'd  like  you  to  stow  the 

high  gain  at  this  time  and  OMNI  Bravo. 

01  20  l6  kl    CC  Jack,  we  appreciate  all  your  information,  and  we'd 

like  to  just  pass  on  some  recommendations  here 
from  the  gromd  that  we'd  like  you  to  keep  on  with 
your  regular  menu  as  much  as  possible.     And,  if 
you  do  cut  anything  off,  we'd  like  you  to 
concentrate  on  eating  the  meats,  the  juices,  and 
the  fruitcake,  which  are  the  most  effective  for 
maintaining  your  electrolyte  balance. 

01  20  17  32     LMP  Okay. 


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01  20  17  h6  CC 
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MCC 
LMP 


IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


Okay,  Bol3.     We  understand  what  you're  saying.  We're 
showing  at  eating  -  eating  it  all.     It's  just  a  lot 
of  food,  that's  all. 

Roger.    We  understand,  Gene,    Also,  on  that  group 
of  foods,  peanut  butter's  great  for  the  bal  - 
electrolyte  "balance,  also;  so  you're  doing  okay. 

I  knew  it  was  good  for  something.     It  couldn't  be 
that  good  without  being  good  for  something. 

I  think  we're  all  trying  to  make  a  concentrated 
effort  also  to  keep  quite  a  bit  of  water  down. 

Roger.     I  understand.     Real  fine. 

Houston,  17. 

Go,  IT;  Houston, 

Okay.     Got  a  little  information  on  what  we  were 
talking  about  yesterday  with  respect  to  southern 
Pacific  weather,  if  you've  got  nothing  else  going 
on . 

Go ;  speak  to  me . 

Okay,  looks  like  a  little  -  cyclonic  circulation 
we  had  over  New  Zealand  is  still  there.     It's  - 
looks  like  the  front  it  was  associated  with  is 
broken  up  a  little  bit;  however,  that  pattern  is  - 
seems  to  be  hugging  the  New  Zealand  area,  and  - 
but  not  -  has  not  intensified.     If  -  if  not  -  it 
may  have  even  weakened  a  little  bit  since  yestery- 
day.     It's  hard  to  be  sure  exactly.     The  front 
does  not  look  as  strong,  and  it  still  seems  to  be 
hanging  Just  stabilized  and  with  all  of  Australia 
clear  now  and  the  western  edge  of  that  front  being 
just  offshore  north  of  Brisbane.     The  -  there  is  - 
east  of  New  Guinea  -  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Solomon 
Islands,  it  looks  like  a  fairly  moderate- sized 
cyclone  developing  at  the  western  edge  of  the  -  of 
a  front  that  was  somewhat  farther  north  and  west 
than  the  one  over  New  Zealand.     North  of  that  - 
^^ake/Kwajalein  region  that  was  of  interest 


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yesterday  to  the  ARIA  people  -  still  seems  to  he 
in  general  overcast  condition,  "but  the  clouds  lio 
not  look  very  heavy  or  impacted  at  all.     New  (liiiiien. 
is  just  on  the  limb,  so  - 

01  20  28  27    LMP  Oh,  I  think  I  lost  them. 

01  20  31  56    MCC  Okay,  I  think  we've  got  you  now,  IT. 

CMP  You're  loud  and  clear,  Stu. 

MCC  Okay. 

01  20  32  k6    LMP  Stu,  I  think  we  lost  you  ahout  the  time  I  lost  view 

of  the  Earth  and  mentioned  the  Wake/Kwajalein  area; 
right? 

MCC  That's  affirmative.     We  didn't  f^et  much  of  the 

Kwajalein  report. 

LMP  There  was  nothing  new  to  add  over  yesterday.  There 

just  seems  general  cloudiness  in  the  area,  but  they 
do  not  look  too  intense  or  well  organized.  Just 
probably  a  general  overcast . 

MCC  Okay. 

LMP  I'll  try  to  get  some  exercise,  and  then  I'll  be 

back  at  you  with  some  more  information.     Maybe  we 
can  see  the  Philippines  by  then . 

MCC  Okay, 

LMP  And,  Stu,  I've  got  my  biomed  hooked  up.    Are  you 

guys  bringing  it  in  during  this  exercise  thing? 
This  is  Jack. 

MCC  Yes,  Jack.     We'll  check  on  that. 

MCC  Okay;  you're  coming  in  loud  and  clenr,  Jack. 

01  20  3^+  15    LMP  Okay. 

01  20  35  ^6    CDR  Stu,  are  you  reading? 

MCC  Roger.    We're  reading  you  loud  and  clear. 


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CDR  Okay,  I  think  that  hi^  storm  that  Jack  was  referring 

to  -  that  has  moved  off  to  the  -  well  to  the  east  of 
Australia.    Very  definite  counterclockwise  rotation 
and  then  it  stretches  to  the  south  or  what  mipht 
even  be  the  southeast.     And  then  just  rolls  ripht  - 
we  ...  a  big  frontal  pattern  and  then  rolls  right 
into  another  -  another  clockwise  -  clockwise 
rotating  low  down  there  near  Antarctica.     It  gives 
me  the  impression  of  a  -  of  a  parrot's  comb  when 
he's  got  his  feathers  ruffled.    And  it,  in  turn, 
has  another  low  trailing  it,  arcing  and  then  flow- 
ing into  another  -  another  low  that  is  very  near 
the  continent  down  there  of  Antarctica.     They  form 
a  chain,  as  I  just  described  froming  -  coming  from  - 
well,  possible  southeast  of  Antarctica  -  it's  hard 
to  really  tell  what  east  is  dovm  there  -  on  up  to 
due  west  of  Australia  by  several  hundred  miles. 

CC  Roger . 

01  20  37  20    CDR  South  of  Australia,  you  get  a  hint  of  a  very  large 

cloud  mass,  from  there  all  the  way  down  to  Antarc- 
tica, that  has  the  tendency  to  -  - 

01  20  39         CC  17,  Houston. 

CC  IT,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Just  wanted  to  get  comm  there  again.     We  had  some 

switchover  there.     You  might  be  interested;  we've 
got  an  ATS  map  in  here  from  this  morning.     Just  - 
you're  just  about  on  -  We  can  see  the  flow  patterns 
in  the  Antarctic  just  about  at  -  120  degrees  west, 
which  is  a  little  closer  to  South  America  than 
what  you're  calling,  I  guess.     But  we  do  -  we  do 
see  that  activity  down  there. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     And  there  is  a  very  large  cloudy  :i,  ir 

mass  between  Australia  and  Antarctica.     Tt  hnr,  .'i. 
tendency  to  want  to  start  a  rotation,  and  you  can 
see  a  hint  of  that;  it's  not  too  strong  right  now. 
We're  seeing  about  three-quarters  of  the  Earth,  I 
guess.    Judging  from  our  clocks  and  what  we  can 
see,  it  looks  like  the  Sun  is  setting  out  over  the 
west  coast;  and  it  leaves  us  with  about  three- 
Quarters  of  the  Earth  available  to  us. 


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01  20  hi  21    CC  Roger.     It'll  be  about  06:15  Los  Angeles  time  ripht 

now,  so  it's  probably  sunset  out  there. 

01  20  h2  kl    CC  Ron,  just  a  reminder  from  the  Flight  Plan  change 

last  night.     You'll  have  a  P52  coming  up  here  at 
^5  hours  in  your  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Roger.    Mighty  fine;  thank  you. 

01  20  k2  58    CC  Roger,  Ron. 

01  20  hG  32    CC  Jack,  just  for  information,  you've  got  your  heart 

rate  to  103. 

01  20  1+8  25    CC  Jack,  you've  got  your  heart  rate  to  about  103;  and 

we  lost  data  right  now. 

CC  Jack,  Just  for  information,  the  last  heart  rate  we 

had  was  103;  and  it's  -  we  lost  data  right  now, 
so  103  is  max  we  saw  right  now. 

LMP  Okay,  I  was  Just  doing  some  isometrics.     I  was  tired 

running  in  place  again  then. 

CC  Roger.     Do  you  want  us  to  call  you  your  heart  rate 

if  -  if  we  get  data  in  here  now? 

LMP  Sure. 

01  20  U9  ih    CC  Okay. 

01  20  50  25    CC  Okay,  you're  up  to  115,  Jack. 

01  20  56  20  SC 

01  20  59  55    CC  What  are  you  doing.  Jack,  -  resting,  or  did  you 

quit? 

LMP  No,  I'm  resting  right  now.     Didn't  seem  like  my 

arms  have  the  stamina  they  did  yesterday  to  hold 
the  artificial  g.     What  -  - 


CC             ...  understand. 
LMP   did  I  get  to? 

CC  We  copied  about  a  maxim\am  of  about  ll8  -  - 


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LMP 
CC 

cc 

CC 

01  21  00  30  IMP 
01  21  00  52  CC 

CC 
CC 

SC 
LMP 

CC 

LMP 

CC 

01  21  01  52  LMP 
01  21  03  03  LMP 


What  heart  rate  did  ~  - 
-  -  on  the  heart  rate. 
About  ll8  max.  Jack. 
Roger .     Under  stand . 

Don't  let  me  -  let  me  harrass  you.     I  just  wan 
kidding  you  on  that.     Whatever  you  think  is  fair. 

You're  not  harrassing  me.     When  my  arm's  rested, 
I '11  try  again. 

Couple  of  interesting  data  points  for  you.  Jack. 
We  saw  the  -  while  you  were  doing  that,  we  saw 
the  PP  COg  go  up;  and  we  saw  the  tanks  destratify 

again  the  same  way. 

Very  good.     Next  mission  they'll  have  to  Flight 
Plan  it. 

That ' s  affirmative . 

You  saw  the  P  CO^  go  up? 

That's  affirmative.     Let  me  get  the  numbers  here, 
if  you  want.     It  took  a  jump  from  1.3  to  2.U  on 
that . 


Okay.  That  -  that  was  with  two  of  us  going,  and, 
part  of  the  time,  three  of  us  going. 

Roger.    Under  st  and . 

Now  we've  still  got  one  going. 

Well,   it's  not  unexpected.     I  just  thought  you'd 
"be  interested. 

Sounds  sort  of  normal. 

Hey,  Boh,  with  this  change  in  the  hour,  what  time 
does  penumbra  start? 


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.  CC  Say  again  the  question.  Jack.     What  time  does  vhat 

start? 

IMP  With  the  change  in  hour,  what  time  does  the  penumbra 

-  what  time  do  we  enter  the  lunar  penumbra? 

CC  Right  now,  we  don't  -  Tommy  doesn't  think  we're 

going  to  go  into  the  penumbra,  and  we're  verifying 
that . 

liMP  Okay . 

CC  Hey,  Ron,  could  we  ask  a  question  about  the  heat- 

flow  experiment  setup? 

CMP  Sure.     Siire,  go  head. 

CC  You  mentioned  that  the  lineal  chips  were  all  on 

the  -  in  the  XX  plane,  and  we're  just  wondering  - 
do  you  mean  along  the  XX  axis  of  the  spacecraft? 

CMP  Yes;  along  the  XX  axis  of  the  spacecraft. 

CC  Is  the  long  XX  axis  of  the  lineal  cell  along  the 

XX  axis,  Ron? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  affirmative.     It's  right-side  up,  if 

you're  looking  at  the  connect  panel,  you  know? 

CC  Yes.     That's  -  we'd  -  they'd  like  it  so  that  that  - 

the  axis  of  that  lineal  cell  was  -  would  be  paral- 
lel to  the  bottom  of  the  panel  100,  as  an  example. 
It's  prob  -  right  now,  it's  perpendicular  to  the 
bottom  of  panel  100,  isn't  it? 

CMP  Now,  wait  a  minute. 

01  21  05  IT    CMP  Yes,  the  lineal  thing  is,  right  now,  perpendicular 

to  the  bottom  of  panel  100. 

01  21  OT  36    CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  I  think  I  see  what  you're  saying.     I'm  sorry; 

I  read  the  thing  with  lineal  cell  in  a  plus-X 
direction.     But  what  they  mean  is,  lineal  cell  in 
the  -  in  -  (laughter)  - 


Tape  32 /T 


CC  Lineal  vord,  I  guess,  is  the  -  - 

CMP  ...  lineal  cell  up. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Okay,  I'll  tiirn  around  the  other  for  this  PTC  part 

of  it  then. 

CC  Wait  a  minute  on  that,  Ron.     We're  having  a  debate 

whether  we  vant  to,  maybe,  continue  the  next  part 
in  the  same  attitude  or  just  rotate  it. 

Cr^P  Okay.     Seems  to  me  like  you'd  like  to  ~  maybe  leave 

it  in  the  same  attitude. 

CC  Ron,  the  only  rational  reason  to  change  it  right 

now  is  we're  hearing  words  that  if  you  had  rotated 
to  the  other  way,  that  you'd  get  better  pictures 
out  of  the  DAC  due  to  the  lighting  reflection  on 
it.    The  PI  would  like  to  change  it  back  to  the 
other  way. 

01  21  09  07    CMP  Okay. 

01  21  12  31    CC  IT,  just  for  information,  we  will  not  be  going  into 

the  penumbra. 

01  21  12  hi    LMP  Okay.     Sorry  to  hear  that. 

01  21  15  U5    CC  Ron,  we  see  your  52;  and  you  can  go  ahead  and 

torque. 

CC  Ron,  Houston.     We're  watching  your  52,  and  you  can 

go  ahead  and  torque. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston;  17.     Thought  you  said  go  ahead  and 

torque.     Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  torque  at  163O. 

01  21  16  30    CC  Roger. 

01  21  23  50    CC  Ron,  a  couple  reminders  -  The  LOI  [sic]  -  - 


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01  21  2h  59    CC  IT,  Houston. 

01  21  25  53    CC  IT,  Houston. 

CMP  Roger .     Go  ahead . 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    Just  a  reminder  on  the  LOI  [sic] 

canister  change  -  Have  you  gotten  into  that? 

Cf-IP  No,  not  yet.     We're  -  probably  get  started  on 

this  - 

CC  Okay.     On  the   

CMP  On  the  heat  flow  first. 

CC  Roger.     Understand.     We'd  like  to  know  when  you 

start  on  that  heat  flow,  Ron,  because  we  need  to 
get  the  DSE  to  high  bit  rate. 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  having  a  little  trouble  getting  them 

mounted  -  in  a  stable  position  this  way. 

01  21  26  1+1+    CC  Understand. 

01  21  29  50    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  IT.     I'm  about  ready  to 

start  it  here  in  about        seconds  here;  let  me 
know  when  you  get  the  tape  recorder  going. 

CC  Roger,  Ron, 

CC  Okay,  we  got  the  tape  recorder  in  HIGH  BIT  RATE. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Hey,  stand  by  1,  Ron.     We  got  a  little  change  here 

we'd  like  to  make  on  the  plan  on  page  2-f>. 

CMP  Okay.     Stand  by  for  zero.     3,  2,  1  - 

01  21  30  36    CMP  MAEK  it.     It's  reset.     Start  the  stop  watch. 

CC  Roger.    And,  Ron,  on  the  checklist  on  page  2-6 

after  the  l6-minute  "End  of  test  and  proceed  to 
next  test,"  we'd  like  to  turn  the  DAC  OFF  at  that 
position. 


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CMP  Okay.    Will  do. 

CC  And,  then,  you  tvocn  it  back  on  at  the  re  -  where 

it  says  "Reset  stop  vatch  and  start."  The  time 
zero  there  -  point.  Prior  to  that,  txarn  it  on. 
I ' 11  remind  you  of  it . 

CMP  Okay.     You.  don't  want  to  watch  me  fill  that  pan 

again,  huh? 

CC  Say  again,  Ron. 

CMP  You  don't  want  to  watch  me  fill  the  pan  again, 

CC  Yes.    Roger.     Yes,  it'll  he  up  before  then.  We'll 

watch  you  fill  the  pan.  We  just  -  while  you're 
taking  time  wiping  it  and  all  that,  that's  when 
we  -  we  don't  want  to  use  up  the  film  there. 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  with  you.    Actually,  I've  already  cleaned 

out  the  -  the  little  area  there. 

CC  Roger.     I've  got  1  minute  on  my  timer  right  now  - 

about  01 : 27 ,  actually , 


CMP  Oh,  thank  you. 

01  21  32  2'k    CMP  Well,  we'll  start  at  2  minutes. 

SC 

01  21  33  3T    CMP  You're  still  on  the  front  page  with  the  lineal  cell. 

01  21  UT  50    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  DAC  is  OFF  now, 

CC  Roger,     DAC  OFF. 

CC  Say,  Ron. 

CMP  Go  ahead,  Houston. 

CC  Yes,  Ron.     If  it's  not  too  much  bother,  it's  one 

of  those  nice  things  to  have.     The  PI  would  like 
you  to  take  a  picture  with  the  -  with  the 
35-millimeter  indoor  of  the  orientation  of  the 
heat  flow  as  it's  mounted.     See  if  you  can  get 
that,   if  it's  not  too  much  problem. 


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CMP  Okay.    No  proljlem.     Good  idea. 

CC  And  that  should  'be  magazine  SS,  vhich  is  the  sare 

one  you'll  use  for  -  with  the  ALFMED  tomorrow. 

CMP  Affirmative;  okay. 

CMP  Okay.     I  opened  the  flow  about  four  turns.  A 

little  bit  is  running  out  -  one  big  bubble  in  it. 
And  I  still  have  a  little  bit  left  over,  even 
though  I  wiped  it  out  pretty  good  awhile  ago. 
The  meniscus  is  up  to  the  bottom  ring,  and  I  think 
we  put  in  eight  things  in  there  where  it's  going 
to  try  to  get  the  meniscus  up  to  the  top  baffle. 
Is  that  correct? 

01  21  h9  55    CC  That's  correct,  Ron. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  33/1 


APOLLO  17  A1R-T0-GR0UHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  21  51  IT     CMP  There  must  have  been  a  few  more  bubbles  down  in 

there  again.     That  was  two  turns  now,  and  I've 
got  it  about  half  full  all  the  way  across. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  But,  maybe  there's  just  about  eight  or  10  bubbles 

in  it . 

01  21  52  36     CT^P  That's  three  tiorns .     The  fluid  is  essentially  ... 

And  we're  still  going  on  the  first  -  fourth,  so 
for  turn  now,  and  it's  still  develops  a  meniscus 
around  the  lower  baffle  -  the  smaller  baffle. 

01  21  5h  58     CMP  Okay.     Looks  like  about  six  of  the  bubbles  have 

developed  into  three,  for  some  reason. 

CC  Roger. 

01  21  55  57    CMP  Oh-oh.     It  was  doing  real  well  there.     Then  on 

seventh  turn,  a  bunch  of  bubbles  came  in  again. 

CC  Roger. 

01  21  57  25     CC  Ron,  I  night  have  given  you  a  bad  call  before. 

We  don't  want  the  DAC  on  until  just  before  that 
2-minute  mark  here,  where  just  prior  to  going 
EXPERIMENT /HEAT  SELECT  -  FLOW  PATTERN  -  LOW.  At 
that  point,  is  where  vre  want  the  DAC  on, 

CMP  Okay.     You  want  the  DAC  on  when  it  starts  heating 

up. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

01  21  57  52     CMP  Okay.     You,  know  -  I  may  have  lost  track  of  the 

turns  here,  but  I  think  we've  got  7-1/2  or 
6-1/2  turns  in  here.     And  it  still  hasn't  over- 
flown that  first  lower  baffle.     I've  got  a  tre- 
mendous concave  -  convex  surface  on  the  fluid, 
but  it  still  hasn't  broken  the  meniscus  of  the 
first  has  -  baffle. 


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CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 


01  21  58  57     CMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  go  ahead  and  take  it  another 

turn,  "because  it  was  my  understanding  we  wanted 
to  try  to  get  in  the  second  baffle,  anyhow.  So, 
I'm  going  to  take  another  turn  of  Krytox  and  put 
some  more  in  there. 

CC  'That's  correct,  Ron. 

01  21  59  37    CC  Ron,  if  that  -  if  that  doesn't  do  it,  they're 

saying  you  might  want  to  take  a  pencil  or  something 
and  stir  it  up  a  hit  and  try  and  break  it  up  from 
lower  baffle  into  the  upper  baffle. 

01  21  59  51     CMP  (Chuckle)     Okay.     I'm  afraid,  1  may  have  it  all 

over  the  place  if  I  do  that,  but  I'll  try  it. 

CC  Roger.     Very  slowly. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Right. 

01  22  00  56     CC  Ron,  just  a  question  while  you're  watching  it 

here.     Do  you  have  any  bubbles  in  the  lineal  cell? 

01  22  02  57     CMP  Yes.     This  one  is  going  to  be  interesting.  There 

are  about,  oh,  a  dozen,  nine  to  a  dozen  -  small 
bubbles  right  next  to  the  inject  board  and  then 
about  the  same  number  right  in  the  center  of  the 
convex  portion  of  it. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Did  you  -  we  didn't  copy  your  answer 

to  our  question  about  any  bubbles  in  the  lineal. 

01  22  03  27     CMP  JIo,  I  didn't  get  to  your  question  on  that.  Ir. 

the  lineal  unit  there  are  no  bubbles  whatsoever. 

CC  Roger.     Thank  you. 

01  22  03  35     CMP  And  there  might  have  been  very  slight  movement. 

Matter  of  fact,  I  can  see  just  a  very  slight  move- 
ment, even  now.     The  particles,  in  there,  they're 
still  lined  up  in  the  YY  direction  essentially 
though,  although  it  looks  like  some  of  them  may 
have  deviated  from  the  front  of  the  lineal  unit 
back  toward  the  center,  or  toward  the  back  of  the 
lineal  unit,  as  you  call  it. 


Tape  33/3 


01  22  Oh  09    CMP  Well,  I  missed  the  2-niinute  start  time  there,  but 

I  can  keep  track  of  it  here. 

01  22  oh  15     CMP  So  we'll  start  the  DAC,  and  then  I'll  turn  this 

to  LOW  at  02:1+5. 

01  22  oh  31    CC  Okay.    We  got  a  hack  on  it,  Ron.     If  you  started 

it,  we  started  our  clock, 

CMP  Okay.     You  know,  just  for  future  reference  here, 

if  we  like  to  do  things  in  zero  g  and  without 
jarring  or  jiggle,  we  want  to  make  sure  that  the 
switch  actuates  with  a  minimum  of  pressure. 

CC  Roger,     A  good  point. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

01  22  06  IT     CMP  Okay.     That's  just  now  starting  to  develop.  Look 

like  circular  cells,  great  big  ones.  And  then  some 
of  the  bigger  ones  are  subdividing  now. 

CC  Okay.    We  got  that. 

01  22  06  3!+    CI^P  That  one's  ...     Some  of  them  are  even  getting 

bigger.  One  of  them  is  -  oh,  about  three-quarters 
of  an  iich  in  diameter,  and  it  hasn't  divided  yet, 
at  all . 

CC  Those  are  real  good  comments,  Ron.     I  was  in  just 

talking  with  the  experimenters,  and  if  you've  got 
nothing  else  to  do,  giving  us  some  sizes  of  those 
cells  would  certainly  be  very  beneficial. 

CMP  Okay . 

01  22  07  21    CMP  Okay.     Frame  2?  was  taJten  at  an  elapsed  time  of 

about  h  minutes. 

CC  Okay.    We  got  that. 

01  22  07  h2     LMP  Stu,  this  is  Jack.     I  was  taking  the  pictures.  I 

took  fo-ur  pictures  about  20  seconds  apart  -  of  the 
sequence  just  after  he  started  it.  And  that  ended 
with  -  or  started  with  frame  26. 


Tape  33/i+ 


CC  Okay.     Frame  26  for  k  seconds  -  I  mean  for  four 

frames . 

01  22  08  15     CMP  Okay.    That  one  cell  I  spoke  of  that  was  about 

three-quarters  of  an  inch  in  diameter  now  is  about 
an  inch  long  and  maybe  three-quarters  of  an  inch 
wide.     Each  -  All  of  the  cells  seem  to  he  bigger, 
in  general.     They're  bigger  this  time.     There  is 
two  small  ones  at  about  an  eighth  of  an  inch  and  - 
and  along  one  side.     The  other  one  is  a  half-inch, 
a  half-inch  -  oh,  a  quarter  of  an  inch,  a  half- 
inch,  and  then  a  circular  when  you  get  around  the 
outs  -  out  -  annulus  of  the  cup.     Then  you  start 
getting  circular  sides  instead  of  straight  sides. 
All  of  the  flow  comes  from  the  little  center  spot 
and  flovrs  outward  from  the  center  toward  the  out- 
side of  the  cells. 

CC  Okay.     We  -  we  copy  that. 

01  22  08  09     CMP  ...   all  of  the  bubbles  have  disappeared,  except 

two. 

01  22  09  20     CC  Ron,  is  the  smallest  cell  you  see  about  an  eighth 

of  an  inch  across? 

01  22  09  27     CMP  The  smalles  cell  I  see  is  a  four-sided  one;  it  looks 

like  a  diamond.  And  it's  an  eighth  of  an  inch  on 
one  side,  an  eighth  of  an  inch  on  the  other  side, 
and  maybe  3/l6  on  the  other  two  sides. 

CC  Okay.     That  sounds  -  that's  a  good  description, 

Ron.     I  know  on  mine  some  of  the  smaller  onet; 
didnH  show  up  in  the  -  in  the  film,  and  we  were 
not  -    not  sure  what  size  they  are.     So  you  mif^ht, 
before  you  quit,  bracket  the  -  the  smalles  or  the 
biggest  cells  by  your  estimate  of  the  size. 

01  22  11  27    LMP  At  any  rate,  frame  number  31,  frame  niimber  31  . .  . 

01  22  11  38     CMP  And  the  information  first  half  of  the  experiment. 

The  orientation  was  90  degrees  from  this  one. 
(Laughter)     In  that  the  lineal  cell  was  on  the 
right,  and  the  lineal  cell  was  aligned  with  the 
XX  axis . 


Tape  33/5 


CC  Okay,  Ron.    We  got  -  We  had  a  drop  in  our  signal 

strength  there,  and  we  did  get  your  last  comment 
about  the  orientation.     We  missed  some  comment 
about  the  frame  numbers ;  I  think  came  from  Jack. 

01  22  12  15    CMP  Okay.     Something's  a  little  different  on  this  one 

here.     Right  at  the  top  of  the  flow  circle,  it 
looks  just  like  a  finger.     It's  a  curved  surface 
that  goes  out  and  almost  touches  the  -  the  cir- 
cumference of  the  dish.     And  it  looks  just  like 
if  you're  holding  your  finger  up  and  looking  at 
it.     It's  that  type  of  a  shape  to  it.     It  comes 
back  down,  and  it's  about  a  half  an  inch  wide. 
The  flow  again  emanates  from,  a  source  that  is 
almost  on  the  fingertip,  you  might  say. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

01  22  13  11    CMP  Okay.     Somehow,  that  fingertip  finally  touched 

the  complete  circumference,  and  the  tip  of  the 
finger  disappeared. 

CC  Okay. 

01  22  13  2k     CMP  Okay,     Ky  -  my  small  one-eighth  inch  -  or 

one-eighth  of  an  inch  sided  diamond  Joined  with 
another  one,  now,  and  one  side  of  the  diamond  is 
gone.     I  still  have  three  sides  of  the  diamond 
and  the  fourth  side  of  the  diamond,  or  the  upper 
right-hand  corner  of  the  diamond,  you  might  say, 
has  disappeared  and  goes  on  with  another  little 
square  -  or  rectangle.     One  -  one  end  of  the 
rectangle  is  about  3/l6  of  an  inch  long;  the 
other  two  sides  are  about  three-eights  of  an  inch 
long. 

01  22  lU  07     CC  Ron,  what's  the  location  of  that  -  of  that  diamond 

and  rectangle  in  the  -  in  the  circular  dish?  And 
is  it  near  the  edge,  or  is  it  towards  the  center? 

01  22  Ik  l8     CMP  There  are  almost  -  No,  it's  almost  in  the  center. 

Towards  the  center.     Almost  in  the  center.  On 
the  left  edge,  as  you  look  at  the  piece  of  equip- 
ment, as  you're  looking  at  it,  there  are  absolutely 
no  patterns  at  all.     There  is  a  flow.     You  can  see 


Tape  33/6 


a  stream  of  flow.     Vrhoops .     I  can  get  up  then  and 
start  looking  at  it.     I  blew  on  it  when  I  was 
talking.     You  can  see  a  stream  of  flow  from  the 
circumference  in  toward  the  outer  group  of  cells. 
The  outer  group  of  cells  is  at  least  half  an  inch 
from  the  circumference,  though,  at  that  point. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  copy  all  that. 

01  22  15  20     CMP  Yes.     I  think  there  is  a  general  migration  of  -  of 

the  cells.     Kind  of  toward  the  bottom  of  the 
circle,  if  you  want  to  look  at  it  that  way.  They 
seem  to  be  stretching  kind  of  in  that  direction, 
too. 

01  22  15  h2     CC  Okay.     You're  saying  that's  toward  minus  X? 

01  22  15  h5     CliP  ...     No,  toward  the  plus  Y,  as  you're  looking  at 

it. 

CC  Okay.     They're  migrating  toward  plus  Y. 

CI'^  I'll  -  I'll  try  to  make  all  directions,  witVi  re- 

spect to  -  with  respect  to  the  rif^ht-side-up  of 
the  equipment ,  you  know. 

CC  Okay.     We've  got  you. 

01  22  l6  06     CJ-IP  And  the  first  finger  I  talked  about  was  at 

12  o'clock.     It  has  joined  the  edge  now  and  almost 
disappeared.     The  second  finger  was  -  still  es- 
sentially the  way  it  was  -  is  getting  slightly 
closer  to  the  edge.     There's  maybe  -  oh,  less 
than  1/32  of  an  inch  between  the  tip  of  the  finger 
and  the  edge.     And  it  goes  out  at  -  at  2  o'clock. 
Okay,  from  3  o'clock  on  around  to  about  7  o'clock, 
the  cells  -  It's  in  a  shadow,  and  I  can't  see  for 
sure  if  they're  touching  the  edge  or  not,  but  it 
looks  like  they're  probably  essentially  touching 
-  the  sk  -  the  edge. 

CC  Okay. 

01  22  l6  58     CMP  And  then  from  7  o'clock  on  around  to  12  o'clock 

again,  none  of  the  cells  are  touching  the  edge  at 
all.     And  they're  -  oh,  an  average  of  three-eighths 
of  an  inch  from  the  outside  circumference. 


Tape  33/7 


CC  Okay.     We're  getting  all  that,  Ron. 

01  22  l8  03    CC  And,  Ron,  we'd  like  to  verify  that  the  fluid  is 

up  to  the  second  baffle. 

01  22  l8  11     CMP  That's  -verified.     It's  up  to  the  second  baffle. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  All  I  had  to  do  was  start  it  in  one  position,  and 

as  soon  as  I  started  it  -  started  it  in  one  po- 
sition, it  whipped  all  the  way  around  it.  From 
the  point  I  started  it ,  it  went  all  the  way  around 
in  both  directions. 

01  22  l8  28     CC  Okay.     That  sounds  beautiful.     That  ought  to  be  a 

good  data,  point  for  something. 

CMP  Yes.  Right. 

01  22  l8  38     CMP  I  think  that  in  the  low  flow  here  evidently  things 

are  even  a  little  bit  slower  than  they  were  in 
the  high  rate  -  in  the  high  -  in  the  high  heat 
rate.     But  my  little  diamond,  now,  is  almost 
joined  with  the  rectangle.     And  I  think  given  half 
a  chance,  it's  tending  to  go  into  another  five- 
sided  figure. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

01  22  20  hk    CW  And  we  start  to  cool  down  . . . 

01  22  21  ih     CMP  Okay.     As  we're  cooling  down,  the  flow  patterns 

tend  to  join  together,  so  far.     The  ones  on  the 
outer  periphery  dissolve  into  straight  lines. 
Straight  lines  are  emanating  in  a  radial  direction 
from  the  center  of  the  circle, 

01  22  2h  12     CMP  And,  Houston,  if  you're  listening;  or  DSFJ  if 

you're  listening.     Had  a  little  bit  of  film  - 
oop,  there's  the  end  of  film  right  now.     May  as 
well  stop  it.     Hey,  I  went  to  HIGH  for  a  little 
ways . 


Tape  33/8 


CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  came  back  in;  I  didn't  get  all  of 

that.     Understand  you  ran  out  of  film.     And  say 
the  other. 

01  22  2h  36     GJS"  Well,  I  still  had  a  little  "bit  of  film  when  the 

cooldown  -  the  2-minute  cooldown  period  was  left, 
so  I  went  back  to  HIGH  on  the  FLOW  PATTERN  just 
to  see  what  wo\ild  happen.     And  it  looked  like  they 
were  starting  out  with  -  again  larger-sized  cells 
developing  into  smaller  ones.     And,  initially, 
all  of  the  cells  were  about  a  half  an  inch  in 
diameter,  and  they  were  closer  to  the  periphery 
of  the  dish  than  they  were  in  the  LOW  FLOW  position, 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that,  Ron.     After  -  after  you  went 

to  HIGH  -  after  the  19  minutes  -  how  long  was  it 
before  you  started  seeing  a  change? 

CMP  It  was  within  a  minute  there.     See,  it  cooled 

down  fairly  rapidly  at  the  end  of  the  2  minutes . 
All  of  the  cells  had  essentially  dissolved.  You 
had  some  radial  lines  on  the  outer  perim  -  The 
cells  that  were  on  the  outer  side  degraded  into  a 
strictly  radial  lines,  back  to  the  second  row  of 
cells.     The  row  of  cells  that  were  on  the  inside 
kind  of  joined  together  and  all  ended  up  into  one 
or  two  large  cells  about  an  inch  -  or  about  3-3/^ 
of  an  inch  across, 

CC  Okay.     Sounds  like  real  good  data  -  - 

01  22  26  21     CW  Still  got  the  HIGH  going. 

01  22  27  h2     CMP  I  still  have  it  in  HIGH,  and  the  pattern  that's 

developing  is  almost  identical  to  the  -  what 
was  happening  in  the  LOW  except  it  seems  to  be 
happening  at  a  faster  rate. 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that. 

01  22  20  01    CMP  . . .  triangle  or  a  little  diamond  developed  down 

there  and  then  -  and  it  disappeared.     Only  this 
time,  it  kind  of  joined  with  a  different  little 
cell,  but  it  was  the  same  cell  next  to  it.  I 
still  have  the  big  one.     It's  about  an  inch  long  - 
at  11  o'clock  -  as  I  had  before.     I  still  have  a 


Tape  33/9 


finger  that's  developing  about  12  o'clock,  and 
another  one  about  2  o'clock.     And  they  seem  to  be 
migrating  again  toward  the  bottom  of  the  dish. 

01  22  29  57    CC  Okay,  Ron.     It  sounds  like  you've  really  wired  that 

experiment  in  great  shape,  and  all  the  -  and  every- 
body's real  happy  with  the  -  with  the  data.  I 
guess  now  you  might  as  well  tear  it  down  and  press 
ahead. 

01  22  31  33    CC  Okay,  Ron.     We're  back  with  you  now,  and  every- 

body's real  happy  about  the  data  and  experiment. 
And  it  looks  like  you  did  a  super  job,  and  you 
might  as  well  tear  it  down  and  press  ahead. 

01  22  31  1+8     CMP  Okay.     I  still  got  it  in  HIGH,  and  I'm  kind  of 

sucking  the  fluid  back  down  the  -  the  intake.  And 
as  I  get  the  fluid  thinned  out ,  low  and  behold 
there's  a  whole  biinch  of  bubbles  underneath  there. 
And  each  bubble  is  a  source  for  one  of  those 
little  cells.     It's  the  internal  source. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    We  got  that.    You  may  have  made  a 

break-through  for  science. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  IT,  Houston. 

CMP  17,  go  ahead. 

01  22  3U  ik     CC  Ron,  just  a  reminder  that  we're  scratching  that 

page  3-^5  that  -  from  U6  to        -  that's  scratched 
out.     And  from  then  on  all  the  times,  you  just 
subtract  an  hour  from  it,  if  you  haven't  done  that 
already. 

CMP  Let's  see.     Yes,  we've  already  done  that.  Bob. 

Thank  you. 

CC  Roger.     Just  a  reminder  on  that.     And  EECOM  is 

over  here  trying  to  figure  out  if  you  changed  the 
canister  or  not.     Just  a  reminder  on  that  one. 


Tape  33/10 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  get  that  as  soon  as  I  get  this  out 

of  the  way.  Okay? 

01  22  3h  1+7     CC  Sure.     While  you're  hack  there  -  Panel  100  and 

that  ~  you  might  park  the  optics.     We  see  they're 
not  in  zero, 

Cr^P  Okay. 

CC  And  along  that  same  line,  Ron,  we  did  notice 

several  times  vhile  people  were  watching  throuf^h 
the  optics  that  they  went  to  ZERO.     And  it's  no 
problem  If  the  rates  are  low,  hut  just  a  reminder 
that  we  don't  want  to  bump  them  into  the  stops 
with  any  kind  of  a  rate. 

CMP  Yes.     I  concur  with  that.  Bob.     I  guess  I  didn't 

realize  we  were  doing  that. 

CC  We  just  picked  up  some  data  points  down  here  that 

people  -  You  were  all  looking  aroimd,  I  guess, 
and  you  might  -  It's  easy  to  miss  that  TRUNNION 
going  to  ZERO,  I  guess. 

I14P  Houston,  IT- 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack,  or  Gene. 

LMP  I'm  ready  to  update  your  weather  in  the  Western 

Pacific,  if  you're  interested. 

CC  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

01  22  36  OT     LMP  Still  can't  quite  figure  out  what  that  circula- 

tion around  New  Zealand  means.     It  looks  like 
it's  merging  with  some  more  weather  to  the  south- 
east.    I  suspect  it's  stormy  there,  hut  I  still  - 
It's  not  a  terribly  well-developed  storm,  although 
it  seems  to  be  broadening  in  its  extent.  Australia 
is  completely  free  of  any  significant  weather  and 
almost  completely  free  -  free  of  clouds.     The  -  There 
appears  to  be  a  front  -  although  right  now  it 
does  not  look  too  intense  -  approaching  from  the 
southwest.     And  it  looks  like  it's  about  5  degrees 
of  longitude  south  of  the  southwestern  tip  of 
Australia.     The  typhoon  Cirrus  -  or  Therese,  1 
guess  it  is  -  appears  to  be  just  about  the  same 
position  it  was  yesterday.     And  that  is  north  of 
Borneo  and  between  Vietnam  and  the  Philippines. 


Tape  33/11 


GC              Roger.     We  see  that  on  the  proR  here.  Jack, 
01  22  3?  39     LMP  Okay   

01  22  ho  02     CC  Jack,  we've  "been  out  of  comm  here  -  ...  we've 

missed  any  of  your  last  report  here! 

01  22  Ul  37    CC  Ron,  did  you  ever  get  your  P23  data  from  today. 

CMP  That's  negative;  never  did. 

CC  Okay.     Just  got  some  updating  information  for  you, 

if  you  vant  to  listen  to  it.     I  don't  think  you 
need  to  copy  it  down. 

CMP  Very  good.     Go  ahead. 

01  22  Ul  56     CC  Okay,  Ron,  the  effective  horizon  was  25,  plus  or 

minus  6  nautical  miles,  which  is  real  fine.  The 
substellar  pointing  error  was  1  arc-minute,  plus 
or  minus  1  arc-minute,  which  is  less  than  the 
1-SIGMA  error.     The  marking  data  was  extremely 
consistent,  and  all  techniques  and  procedures 
were  excellent.     And  the  horizon  updates  from  the 
current  onboard  value  of  28  -  is  not  required,  so 
you're  extremely  good  P23.  Outstanding. 

a-IP  Hey,  that's  good  to  hear.     Great.     Thank  you. 

CC  And  1  do  have  one  input  from  your  other  half. 

There's  a  concern  that  if  you  spill  grape  juice 
your  flight  suit,  it's  hard  to  get  out.     So  be 
sure  -  and  when  you're  eating  -  drinking  grape 
juice  ~  you  want  to  make  sure  you  learn  to  drink 
it  righu . 

01  22  h2  55     CMP  (Chuckle)     Okay.     We  -  we'll  try  that,  for  sure. 

Note:  During  the  period  01:22:ii5:55  to  01:22:5^:12, 
time-annotated  recordings  are  not  available. 


on 


CC 


Ron,  this  is  Houston.  We'd  like  to  confirm  the 
tunnel  index  angle  -  that's  a  positive  plus  1.2 
is  that  right? 


Tape  33/12 


CMP  Stand  by.     I  don't  believe  it  yet.     I  want  to  check 

it  myself.     Yes,  Gordo,  that'r.  what  I  read,  but  1 
figure  it's  his  privilege. 

CMP  I  was  checking  for  any  scratches  on  the  drogue, 

but  it  doesn't  look  like  there  is  any  on  there. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  See  ... 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  roll  docking  index  is  on  a 

1.2  -  a  plus  -  1,  a  plus  1.2. 

CC  Roger.     Plus  1.2. 

CMP  'And  -  let's  take  a  look  up  there  in  the  docking 


latch  number  U.     The  bungee  is  parallel.  Roger. 
Bungee  is  parallel,  but  it's  not  fully  extended. 
You  look  dovn  in  the  end  of  it  and  -  you  know  - 
and  it's  not  fully  extended.     And  -  and  the  - 
capture  -  the  docking  latch  itself  or  the  docking 
lever  is  loose  on  the  docking  ring.     So,  it  looks 
like  to  me  that's  when  I  ought  to  recock  and  fire 
it  again. 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that,  Ron.     Stand  by. 

CC  Ron,  can  you  estimate  in  inches  how  far  down  the 

bungee  piston  is? 

Cr-IP  Yes,  it's  down  about  a  half  an  inch. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  -  a  -  when  I  take  the  -  and  move  the  handle 

back  aways  and  I  can  take  the  -  hook.     There  I 
did  it  ...  I  took  the  hook  and  I  pulled  it  back 
off  the  docking  ring  and  then  it  caught  again,  so 
now  it  won't  go  back  over  the  docking  ring. 
Maybe  -  I  just  lifted  the  hook  off  the  docking 
ring  with  my  finger. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  33/13 


CC  Say,  Ron,  I  would  like  to  caution  you  again,  stick- 

ing your  finger  around  or  under  that  hook  -  there 
may  still  "be  some  spring  energy  stored  up  there 
that  could  release. 

CMP  Oh,  you  het  you.     Yes,  I  know  that.     No,  I  was 

just  touching  the  top  of  the  hook  when  I  pulled 
it  hack  off  the  docking  ring.     I'm  pulling  back 
onto  the  docking  ring,  and  it  looks  like  it's 
hack  in  the  cocked  position  now, 

CC  Okay.     I  think  we've  got  the  picture. 

CMP  Do  you  want  me  to  open  the  hatch  here.  Jack,  or 

do  you  want  to  -  while  they're  thinking  about  that 
I'll  get  out  of  the  way  and  come  on  and  open  the 
hatch, 

Cf4P            (Laughter)     Can't  get  up  and  can't  get  down  - 
Okay  

CC  We're  having  a  long  conversation  about  that  latch, 

Ron.  Why  don't  you  all  just  press  on  down  the 
checklist  and  leave  it  as  it  is  while  we  think 
about  it? 

CMP  Okay.     That's  what  we're  doing  here  Gordo. 

a^P  Okay,  Gordo,  do  you  want  the  0^  HEATERS  1  and  2, 

OFF,  and  3,  AUTO?     That's  what  you've  got. 

CC  Yes,  that's  fine, 

CMP  Okay.     He's  going  to  open  the  hatch  and  IVT, 

Gordo,  let  me  tell  you  a  little  more  on  that  dock- 
ing latch.     When  I  looked  at  it,  of  course,  my 
handle  was  flush  against  the  edge  and  it  was 
also  -  essentially  -  locked  in  position.  But 
since  the  bungee  was  down  on  the  thing  I  took  hold 
of  it,  and  I  felt  that  the  hook  itself  was  loose. 
Okay,  so  I  took  the  handle  and  the  handle  will 
come  back  -  would  come  back  once  you  pressed  the 
little  button,  you  know,  to  release  the  handle. 
The  handle  would  come  back  to  about  a  i+5-degree 
position  just  like  it  normally  does  when  you  try 


to  cock  the  latches.     Okay,  with  the  handle  back 
in  that  U5-degree  position,  then  I  grabbed  hold 
of  the  hook  and  brought  the  hook  off  of  the  dock- 
ing ring  with  my  finger  and  back  to  about  that 
i+5-degree  position  again  just  like  it  was  coin- 
parable  to  the  first  cocked  position.     And  that's 
the  way  it  is  right  now. 

Okay ,  Ron . 

Okay.     One  piece  of  tape  coming  up  shortly,  pro- 
vided I  can  find  the  tape.     Here  it  is.  Okay, 
Gordo,  I'm  running  up  through  the  tunnel  from 
America  to  Challenger. 

Roger. 

Piece  of  tape  coming  up.     I'll  tell  you,  Gordo, 
it's  remarkably  clean  up  here.     It  doesn't  look 
like  the  snowstorm  that  I  remember  coming  into 
last  time. 

Roger.  Understand, 

...     up  here.     Hey,  you  did  a  good  job,  friend. 
Hey,  that's  good.     Where  is  it?     Oh,  you  ... 

straight  out  there?     Let  me  see;  I  want  to  see. 
I  want  to  take  a  look  at  it,  too.     Hey,  there  it 
is;  sticking  straight  out.     Okay,  Houston,  Americ 
has  a  VHF  antenna  -  looks  deployed  perfectly. 

Roger, 

...     upside  down  in  there.     ...  The  commander's 
window  has  a  slight  amount  of  condensation  on  the 
lower  left  edge  -  that's  the  left-hand  edge, 
really.     It  seems  to  be  just  there  when  the  Sun 
warms  the  window. 

Roger,  Jack. 

Okay,  Houston.     7^  on  1-3. 


Okay. 


Tape  33/15 


LMP  Geez,  what  was  that?    What  was  that  from?  What 

the  heck  is  this? 

CC  Sounds  like  the  cabin  ...  is  working  up  there. 

LMP  Holy  smole.     ...     Sun's  out  -  there's  Sun  out  in 

the  AOT. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     I'm  looking  out  the  AOT,  and  I  see  a  VIIF 

antenna  and  part  of  a  umbra  radar  antenna  in  po- 
sition 1.     Position  2  looks  right  in  the  radar 
antenna,  and,  as  I  said  yesterday,  it  was 
beautiful. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Position  3,  I  see  the  other  side  of  America  and 

very,  very  clean  air,  very  clean.       Okay,  I  got 
a  good  view  of  the  side  of  the  service  module, 
and  you  can  see  these  little  blisters  in  the  side 
of  the  covering  there  quite  distinctly.     I  think 
people  were  talking  about  those  before. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Yes,  I  take  that  back.     That's  the  side  of  - 

that's  the  side  of  the  command  module  we're  look- 
ing at  that  has  the  little  blisters  on  it.  Got 
to  get  oriented  up  here.     Got  a  great  view  of  the 
hatch  -  you     ...     watch  your  eyes  and  everything. 
Look  up,  rather  than  into  the  Sun  ... 

SC  Okay.     Step  1  on  1-k . 

SC  Okay,  Gordy.     The  LMP  OPS  is  6lOO  psi,  6lOO . 

CC  Roger. 

SC  And  the  CDR  OPS  is  5900,  that's  five-nine-zero- 

zero. 

CC  Okay. 

SC  Okay.     Zip  bag  coming  up. 


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SC  You  von't  scare  me  any  more  if  I  come  on  up  here 

with  you,  will  you?  (Laughter). 

3C  I  got  to  go  hack  in  there. 

SC  Okay. 

SC  Yes,     Do  you  want  to  stack  part  of  it  over  there? 

No,  wait  a  minute.     There's  strips  of  the  stuff, 
you  know,  I'll  just  give  you  a  strip  of  it.  Take 
it  over  there. 

SC  Okay.     Here  you  go.     That's   ...  of  them  is  that 

enough? 

^'^  Yes,  go  ahead.  Jack.     Yes,  in  the  tunnel.     What  do 

you  need. 


SC  Okay. 

SC  Okay. 

SC  Checking  circuit  breakers  now,  Gordy, 

CC  Roger. 

•••  ^oth  circuit  breaker  panels  were  as  advertised, 
Gordy . 

CC  Okay. 

01  22  5^  12     LI-IP  Houston,  17 . 

CC  Go  ahead.     IT,  Houston.     Go  ahead. 

01  22  5h  22     LMP  I  need  to  make  a  correction.     Roger.     I  need  to  make 

a  correction.     It  looks  as  if  that  storm  area  that 


was  in  New  Zealand  yesterday  has  moved  up  across 
the  two  islands  and  is  now  sitting  northwest.  Jt's 
getting  a  little  hard  to  identify  the  smaJ  It-r  islands 
in  the  pacific,  but  --  pretty  sure  I've  got   it    In  the 
right  place  now  looking  at  the  map.     And  it  is 
northwest  of  New  Zealand.     And  it  looks  like  Mew 
Zealand  is  probably  having  reasonably  good  weather 
today,  although  I  suspect  it  rained  last  night. 


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Tape  33/17 


CC  Roger,  Jack.     That's  interesting  because  on  my  prog 

it  doesn't  show  a  thing  down  that  area.     This  just 
may  not  he  up  to  date  here  yet. 

01  22  55  ^3    LMP  Well,  there  may  be  nothing  down  there  except  some 

cloud  patterns  and  -  hut  that's  all  I  can  see, 
of  course.     The  front  that's  south  of  Australia 
now  -  I  presume  front  -  just  looking  at  a  fairly 
well-developed,  although  narrow,  cloud  line,  is 
about  5  -  about  10  degrees  south  of  Perth  right 
now,  southwest  of  Perth  and  runs  on  a  northwest- 
southeast  line  -  over  to  a  point  about  10  or 
15  degrees  southwest  of  Tasmania.     And  then  it 
intersects  a  curved  front  that  runs  from  there  up 
to  -  to  Tasmania,  and  then  back  around  down  south 
of  New  Zealand  about  10  degrees . 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

01  22  56  2U     CDR  Say,  Bob,  this  is  Gene.     I  got  some  new  sensors  on. 

You  might  want  to  take  a  look  at  them. 

CC  Roger.     Good  show,  Gene.     We  were  just  wondering 

about  that,  and  I'll  bug  the  guys  on  my  left  here 
and  make  sure  they're  looking  at  them. 

01  22  56  51     CC  We're  not  getting  any  data  yet.  Gene. 

01  22  56  55     LMP  Bob,  we're  starting  to  get   ...   from  just  off  Luzon 

on  the  northeast  trend  , . ,  seen  so  far  a  shadow 
line  of  fairly  thick  high  clouds  overlying  sono 
thick  lower  clouds  behind  the  front. 

01  22  57  52     CC  Roger.     You  might  have  -  be  of  interest  on  board 

there,  the  FIDOs   

01  22  58  52    CC  Jack,  we've  been  having  comm  dropouts  here  on  this 

OMNI.     Have  you  swing  around  on  us? 

01  22  59  06     LMP  Okay.     What  -  where  did  I  leave  you.  Bob? 

CC  Well,  I'm  not  sure  because  we  picked  up  a  niimber 

of  different  bits,  and  then  we  dropped  it  all. 

LMP  Did  you  get  the  overcast  over  Korea  and  Manchuria 

bit? 

CC  Negative.     I  didn't  get  that. 


Tape  33/18 


01  22  59  36     LMP  Okay.     That  generally  -  South  China  looks  clear. 

I  haven't  had  a  real  good  look  at  it  yet,  it's  out 
on  the  limb.     It's  clearly,  however,  overcast  over 
Korea  and  Manchuria.     It  does  not  appear  to  be 
frontal  weather  there,  though.     The  dominant  front 
in  the  northwestern  Pacific  stretches  on  a  north- 
west line  from  just  off  Luzon  on  up  as  far  as   I  can 
see  to  the  terminator.     And  it  seems  to  be  an 
extremely  strong  front  with  what  I  would  guess  is 
heavy  air-mass  weather  all  along  it.     And  up  to 
the  east-northeast  of  Japan,  there's  an  excellent 
example  of  a  shadow  line  from  some  fairly  thick 
high  clouds  on  solid  overcast  of  lower  clouds. 
Don't  see  any  major  cyclone  development  alonp  it, 
or  wave  development.     It  just  locks  like  a  very 
strong  air-mass  front. 

GC  Roger,  Jack.     We've  got  it  on  our  prog  here.  We 

don't  show  the  one  on  the  northeast  part  of  Japan, 
but  we  do  show  a  front  prog  for  tomorrow  morning 
going  off  of  Taiwan  and  -  right  from  Taiwan  east- 
ward -  past  the  Ryukyu  Islands  and  just  on  into 
the  northern  Pacific  there.     Looks  like  pretty 
heavy  cloud  mass  over  there. 

Lm  Roger.     That's  the  one  I'm  -  Roger.     That's  the  one 

I'm  looking  at.     Extremely  heavy.     And  right  now  it  - 
in  fact  starts  ahout  at  Luzon.     It  looks  like  Taiwan 
is  almost  on  the  back  side  of  it. 

•^C  Yes.     That's  what  our  prog  -  it  shows  it  right  on 

Luzon  and  then  Taiwan's  clear. 


Say,  you 


LMP  Very  good. 

CC  We'll  keep  up  with  you  yet  there.  Jack. 

may  be  interested.     We've  got  9  hours  of  good 
tracking  on  the  -  after  the  midcourse  -  and  we 
show  a  perilune  of  about  52  miles  which  confirms 
a  good  midcourse . 

CDR  Sounds  outstanding. 

CMP  'That's  great. 


01  23  03  05  CDR 


You  can  cross  off  the  canister,  by  the  way;  it's 
changed. 


Tape  33/19 


CC  Okay.     EECOMs  happy  atout  that  now,  finally.  And, 

Gene  -  the  CD  -  your  data  looks  good. 

01  23  02  19     LMP  Okay.     1  never  had  a  chance  to  tell  you.  Bob,  but 

you  -  as  you  see  -  I  presume  -  I  -  the  LMP  no 
longer  has  sensors  on. 

OC  Roger.     We  confirm  that. 

::iMP  By  the  way,  those  were  the  -  I  guess  you  know  - 

the  sensors  that  we  put  on  at  the  Cape.     And  they 
still  seemed  to  he  in  good  shape  when  I  took  them 
off.     I  figured  I'd  let  things  rest  a  while,  and 
then  I'll  put  them  on  again  tomorrow. 

01  23  02  55    CC  Roger.     Looks  like  you've  got  eat  period 

scheduled  here  for  an  hour,  and  then  into  the 
presleep  checklist. 

LMP  Whoopee!     The  old  preslip  [sic]  checklist. 

01  23  12  19     CC  Apollo  IT,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  T.P. 

CC  Yes.     I  was  going  to  say,  is  that  talkative 

commander  on  hoard? 

CC  How  are  you  doing  down  there? 

CC  Well,  1  feel  lots  "better.     Like  I  told  you,  Geno  - 

I  think  that  you  were  the  jinx  on  Gemini  9  for  all 
the  delays .     Over . 

CDR  No  way;  you  got  a  longer  history  than  I  do. 

CC  Everything's  looking  great. 

CDR  Yes,  it's  looking  good  on  board.     We're  -  I  think 

we're  pretty  well  squared  away.     We've  got  our 
stowage  in  shape,  and  we're  in  the  house-cleaning 
routine.     And  that's  about  50  percent  of  the  battle, 

CC  Right. 

CDR  The  weather  down  there  didn't  look  too  good  today. 

How's  it  been? 


Tape  33/20 


CC 


LMP 
CC 

LMP 


CDR 
CC 


Well,  as  it  started  out,  it  was  below  itiinimiuns 
this  morning  and  finally,  this  afternoon,  it 
cleared  up.     But  it  was  strictly  zilch  this  morn- 
ing and  starting  last  night.     There's  another 
front  due  in  here  later  tonight . 

Yes,  we've  heen  watching  that  one. 

Well,  Jack,  you're  turning  into  a  very  trained 
weather  observer  besides  being  a  geologist. 

Oh,  I'm  enjoying  it  immensely,  Tom,  as  you  may 
have  gathered . 


CC  Right . 

LMP  Very  interesting  place  to  watch;  I'll  tell  you. 

CC  Absolutely  superb. 

01  23  19  CDR  How  are  things  on  the  home  front,  T.P.? 

CC  Geneo,  things  couldn't  be  better. 

Well,  you  might  sound  all  the  good  words  from  us, 

Oh,  will  do.  I  plan  to  drop  by  ajid  bum  a  cup  of 
coffee  tomorrow. 


CDR  I'd  love  to  invite  you  up  here  for  supper. 

CC  And  I  wish  I  could  join  you.     I  could  make  another 

couple  of  remarks,  but  they'd  be  X-rated;  so  I 
shouldn't. 

CDR  Okay.     I'll  accept  that. 

CDR  You  notice  I  haven't  yet. 

01  23  21  Oh     CC  (Chuckle)  I'm  very  well  pleased,  Geneo.     Your  - 

your  language  is  superb. 


ERD  OF  TAPE 


Tape  3^+/! 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


01  23  27  37    CC  17,  Houston.     Just  a  couple  words.     We'd  like  you 

to  know  we're  real  satisfied  with  all  the  LM  data 
that  we  saw  during  the  LM  activation  work  today. 
And,  looking  at  it,  the  data  looked  real  good. 

IMP  Great,  Bob.     I  was  -  you  had  me  worried  there  for 

a  while  with  the  comm.     Do  you  have  a  good  idea 
what  caused  that? 

CC  Yes,  we're  sure  about  99.9  percent  of  it  was  Just 

ground  linkup. 

LMP  Yes,  that's  certainly  the  way  it  acted  onboard. 

CC  I  guess  there  won't  be  any  need  to  go  back  and 

change  the  Checklist  on  that,  but  there's  a  lot 
to  be  said  for  maybe  going  to  a  real  good  stable 
condition  and  then  getting  a  good  firm  checkout 
before  you  go  into  that  downvoice  backup  mode  and 
things  like  that.     And  I  think  that's  what  we'll 
do  in  the  future. 

01  23  28  35    LMP  Understand. 

01  23  i+5  50    LMP  Houston;  7-17- 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  Say,  I'm  just  a  little  curious  about  the  difficulty 

on  holding  the  omnis.     Is  that  about  the  same  as 
past  missions,  or  are  we  losing  a  little  bit  more 
than  usual? 

CC  We're  going  to  have  Ed  here  give  us  a  description 

for  a  minute,  so  let  me  stand  by. 

LMP  Okay . 

CC  Jack,  according  to  that  -  to  our  stalwart  INCO 

over  there,  due  to  this  new  210  down  at  Tidbinbilla 
we're  holding  actually  longer  than  in  the  past 
history. 


Tape  3^+/2 


IMP  Okay.     I  just  guess  I've  never  been  on  this  end 

"before . 

CC  Roger.     Do  you  -  do  you  hear  it  onboard  when  we 

break  lock  there? 

LMP  Yes,  matter  of  fact,  with  our  SQUELCH  ENABLED,  we 

lose  all  the  "background  noise.     And  we  know  when 
we're  picking  you  up  because  we  start  to  get  back- 
ground noise  again. 

CC  Roger.     In  other  words,  you  -  you  are  able  to  stop 

talking  or  something  when  you  -  when  you  know  we're 
breaking  lock  then? 

LMP  Well,  if  we  happen  to  be  talking  when  you  break 

lock  -  no,  unless  we're  watching  the  meters  we 
won't.     We  lose  you  when  you  get  about  55  -  say 
60  percent  signal  strength.     And  apparently  we're 
not  talking  to  you  when  we  have  less  than  that. 

CC  Roger.     Yes,  INCO  gave  me  a  briefing  tonight  and 

showed  me  what  chart  to  watch  so  I  can  look  at 
numbers  when  to  talk.     I've  been  talking  to  myself 
too  much,  lately. 

01  23  ^8  09    LMP  Yes,  they  have  a  beautiful  chart  there  for  that 

purpose . 

CC  I  never  really  wanted  to  be  an  INCO,  but  I  guess 

I  was  forced  to  tonight. 

LMP  There  are  lots  of  comments  for  that  one,  Bob;  but 

I'd  better  not  say  anything. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  You'd  never  speak  to  me  again. 

CC  Well,  that's  all  right.     We  can't  X-rate  the  trans- 

cripts, so  we'll  just  have  to  take  -  take  it  easy. 

LMP  Say,  Bob,  I've  got  another  question  about  the 

Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead,  sir. 


Tape  3lt/3 


LMP  (Music)     Yes,  sir.     The  battery  voltage  on  low 

taps,  strangely  enough,  was  just  like  the  simu- 
lator; "but  I  had  expected  that  the  simulator 
might  have  been  wrong  -  that  we  would  have  seen 
higher  voltage  there.     Is  that  -  is  that  about 
what  you  guys  expected? 

CC  Roger.     They  said  they  expected  that  because  the 

extra  time  on  the  pad  that  they're  running.  That 
2-hour-and-i<-0-minute  delay  is  coming  into  play 
again . 

LMP  Oh,  yes,  yes.     That's  right.     Good.     I  forgot  all 

about  that.     Something  made  that  slip  my  mind. 

CC  Well,  things  have  been  going  so  well  that  I  can't 

blame  you  forgetting  that. 

IMP  ...   Stanley  Holloway's  crazy  Flight  Plan  updates 

that  we've  just  forgotten  that  we  were  ever  late. 

CC  Roger.     Say,  by  the  way,  we  like  the  music  in  the 

background.     Sounds  pretty  good. 

LMP  Yes,  we  sort  of  -  didn't  -  we  didn't  get  it  out 

at  all  until  today.     [Music:     Whipped  Cream  by 
Al  Hirt]     I  don't  know  whether  we  forgot  about  it 
or  too  many  other  learning  things  going  on.     It's  - 
it's  quite  pleasant. 

CC  Roger.     I  don't  think  you  forgot  about  it.  I 

think  you  were  Just  glued  to  those  windows. 

01  23  50  32    LMP  Well,  I  still  am,  as  a  matter  of  fact.     The  old 

Earth's  coming  by.  And,  say,  I  mentioned  a  couple 
of  fronts  that  joined  together  about  20  degrees 
south  of  -  of  -  the  south  coast  of  Australia.  And 
it  looks  like  that's  a  fairly  healthy  storm  center 
developing  down  in  there  -  conceivably  may  migrate 
up  across  Tasmania  and  maybe  up  -  up  the  Sydney- 
Brisbane  coastal  area  in  the  next  few  days. 

CC  Roger.     Where  is  the  exact  center  of  that,  Jack? 

It  took  me  a  second  to  get  my  prog  out  here. 


Tape  3h/k 


LMP  Well,  just  a  second.     Let  me  give  you  better  ... 

from  the  map. 


01  23  51  20     CC  Roger. 

CC  While  you're  looking  at  your  map,  I  just  might 

mention  to  Gene.     I  just  talked  to  your  -  your 
better  half  over  there,  and  everybody's  fine  and 
happy. 

CDR  Great.     Always  like  to  hear  nevs  like  that,  Bob. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Bob,  did  you  get  that  -  15  to  20  def^rees  south 

southwest  of  Adelaide? 

01  23  52  i+5     CC  Roger. 

01  23  53  21    CC  IT,  Houston,     Are  you  into  your  pre  -  presleep 

checklist  yet? 

CC  17,  Houston.     Are  you  into  your  ... 

CC  17,  Houston.     Are  you  into  your  presleep  check- 

list now? 

CDR  We're  just  about  ready  to  get  started.  Bob.  We're 

running  a  little  bit  behind,  but  -  we'll  catch  up 
here. 

CC  Okay.     No  sweat. 

LMP  (Music)     Trying  to  get  some  more  of  this  good 

food  down. 

CC  Roger.     Keep  saying  those  words.     The  people  on 

ray  left  appreciate  that. 

CDR  Yes,  but  it  does  take  awhile. 

CC  I'm  sure  of  that. 

LMP  You  know  what  we  really  need  is  Rita  to  fix  it 

for  us . 

CC  That's  affirmed.     I'll  go  along  on  that. 


Tape  3it/5 


01  23  56  19     CDR  Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  cycle        FMS  1  and  2. 

01  23  56  25    CC  Okay,  we're  watching. 

01  23  57  50     CDR  FMS  are  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  BoTd,  we're  still  on  November  November  frame  1^+0, 

and  I'm  going  to  take  two  more  pictures  before 
I  go  to  sleep, 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     We  copy  that.     November  November 

frame  lUO.     And  you  ought  to  be  on  1^+2  when  you 
go  to  sleep,  I  guess,  huh? 


01  23  59  37    LMP  That's  affirm. 

02  00  1I+  i+8    LMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP  Roger.     One  final  word.     I  got  those  pictures; 

and,  I  tell  you,  that  typhoon  off  -  north  of 
Borneo  -  looks  like  it's  right  off  the  coast  of  - 
the  east  coast  of  Vietnam  now.     And  it's  about  as 
tightly  organized  and  solid  as  anything  I  can 
remember  seeing  in  photographs.     It  looks  as  if, 
from  yesterday,  it's  moved  quite  a  bit  to  the 
west. 


CC  Roger.     We  concur.     The  prog  for  12:00  -  Let's 

see,  that's  about  6  hours  from  now  -  shows  it  to 
be  right  over  the  Vietnam  area,  the  Viet  -  Vietnam 
peninsula  there.     So  it  looks  like  it's  moving 
the  way  they're  progging  it,  huh? 

LMP  Yes;  well,  it's  right  there.     Yes,  it  certainly  is. 

It's  -  it's  moved  from  just  a  little  bit  west  of 
Luzon  over  to  the  coast  there.  So  it's  a  pretty 
healthy  storm. 


CC 


Roger.     It  looks  -  on  the  prog  chart  here  -  it 
looks  real  tight.     It's  a  very  -  very  centralized 
thing  and  real  tight  circular. 


Tape  3*4/6 


LMP  Oh,  yes,  you  better  believe  it.     It  in  really  - 

it  is  tight.     It  -  it's  really  -  really  no  hii^rc-r 
than  the  -  in  terms  of  cloud  pattern  -  no  bi,'"^(^er 
than  the  -  say.  South  Vietnam  itself. 

CC  Roger.     How're  you  getting  that.  Jack?     Are  you 

looking  with  the  monocular  now? 

LMP  That's  affirra.     Monocular  still  gives  real  good 

resolution  on  the  cloud  patterns.     [Music]  Naked 
eye,  you  just  see  the  masses;  but  with  the  10-povei 
monocular,  it's  perfectly  adequate  for  seeing  the 
kind  of  patterns  we're  talking  about. 


02  00  17  02  CC 
02  00  20  00  CC 


Roger.     I  understamd. 

V/ell,  guys,  I  guess  I  won't  get  the  chance  to  say 
goodnight  to  you  beca.use  Parker's  going  to  come 
in  to  put  you  to  bed. 


IMP  Heavens. 

CC  And  we'd  -  we'd  like  you  to  clear  ~  - 

LJ'IP  You  can  still  say  goodnight,  Bob. 

CC   the  DSKY,  if  you  will. 

II-'P  Say  goodnight,  Bob, 

CC  Say  goodnight,  Dick,  hulri?     One  last  word.  You 

know,  we're  alvrays  hounding  you  guys  -  really  don't 
mean  to  -  but  we  -we'd  like  to  see  a  clear  DSKY 
so  something  doesn't  burn  out.     Don't  know  the 
exact  words  on  that,  but  - 

CDR  Okay,  we  -  we'll  give  you  a  clear  DSKY. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Goodjiight,  Robert, 

02  00  20  50     CC  We'll  see  you  tomorrow,  troops.     And  we  had  a  good 

show  today,  and  we '13.  have  more  tomorrow. 

LMP  Ron  says  goodnight.  Bob. 


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02  00  21  23     CC  Roger. 

02  00  28  25     IMP  RolDert  Parker,  are  you  there? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  Well,  you're  just  in  time  to  put  us  to  sleep,  and 

I'll  give  you  one  last  little  old  ohservation  here. 
Extremely  bright  zero  phase  point  right  off  the 
northwestern  corner  of  Australia  right  at  Carnarvon, 
It's  as  bright  as  I've  seen.     They  must  have  a 
pretty  good  sxirf  or  something  going  in  there. 

CC  Okay,  that  sounds  good. 

CC  Okay,  17,  we  copy  all  that;  and  I  gather  you're 

going  to  sleep  at  this  point. 

LMP  Well,  we're  going  to  try.  Bob.     I  don't  think  any 

of  us  are  real  sleepy  right  now,  but  we're  going 
to  give  her  the  old  space  try,  here;  and  I'm  sure 
we'll  be  asleep  before  long.     Ron  is  on  watch; 
and,  if  you  don't  wake  him  up  with  your  voice, 
give  hiir.  a  crew  alert.     He  says  he'll  wake  up  witli 
a  MASTER  ALARM. 

02  00  30  00    CC  That's  a  healthy  sign.     All  right,  gujs ;  if  1  stick 

aroxmd  long  enough  in  the  morning,  I'll  wake  you 
up. 

02  00  33  25     CDR  Okay,  Robert,  are  you  happy  with  your  high  - 

antenna  configuration? 

CC  That's  affirm.     IWGO  is  happy. 

CDR  Okay,  you  have  anything  else  for  us?    I'll  take 

care  of  our  sleep  configuration  if  you  don't. 

CC  Okay,  stand  by.     I'll  go  around  the  MOCR  here 

with  white. 

SC  (Laughter) 

CC  Okay.     A  lot  of  happy  people  down  here  with  nothing 

to  ask  you. 


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CDR 

02  00  36  12  CC 


Okay,     Rice  to  have  ei^er^rDody  happy.     And  you  - 
that  includes  the  ~  the  "biomed  on  the  coimandor, 
huh? 

Okay-     I  guess  they're  happy. 

Okay,  are  you  going  to  sing  to  Ron  in  the  morning 
to  "wake  us  up? 

Depends  on  how  soon  you  g^uys  decide  to  vfake  up  in 
the  morning,     I'll  "be  aro^'ond  for  8  hours  anyv^ay. 

Vfhat '  s  your  expected  3ET  of  awsiie? 

Sxand  t>y.     Okay,  2.7 ,  it  should  say  56  -  - 

.,  56. 

Go  sJi.ead, 

Yes  5  we're  just  going  to  say  the  same  thing. 

Okay.     Should  show  56  on  your  clock. 

In  fact,  Dr=   Kranz,  here.  Just  decided  that  you 
guys  get  another  h.aj.f  hour  in  the  morning  if  you 
vanted  it.     But  you  hetter  tell  us  now  because 
we'll  wake  you  up  at  5^  3.nd  ask  you  if  you  vant 
the  othei'  half  hour  then,  tmless  you  tell  us. 


Yes,  why  don't  you  give 
if  we  happen  to  wake  up 
well 3  we'll  do  it„ 


us  another  half  hour;  and 
and  vrant  to  move  around, 


Okay;  we'll  wake  you  up  a.t  5b: 30, 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


REST  PERIOD  -  HO  COMMUNICATIONS 


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APOLLO 

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02  08  37  00  CC 

02  08  38  IT  CC 

02  08  39  18  CC 

02  08  111  IT  CC 

02  08  1+5  55 

02  08  l+T  58  CC 

02  09  05  Ok  CC 

02  09  23  lU  CC 

02  09  23  33  CC 

02  09  39  39 

02  09  ho  36  CC 

02  09  i+0  U6  LMP 
CC 
LMP 
CC 
SC 
LMP 

02  09  1+1  l6  CC 


IT  AIR-TO-GROUiro  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

(Music:    Jayhawk  Fight  Song) 
Good  morning,  Apollo  IT.     It's  Houston.  Over. 
Apollo  IT,  Houston.    Good  morning. 
Apollo  IT,  this  is  Houston.    Good  morning. 
Apollo  IT,  Houston,    Good  morning. 

(Music:     Jayhawk  Fight  Song) 

Apollo  IT,  Houston.     Good  morning.    Are  you  with 
us  this  morning? 

Good  morning,  Apollo  IT.    It's  time  to  rise  and 
shine .    Over . 

Apollo  17;  oh,  Apollo  IT;  it's  morning.    Time  to 
get  up.  Over. 

Hello,  Apollo  IT;  do  you  read?  Over. 

(Music:    Jayhawk  Fight  Song) 

Hello,  IT.     Hello,  IT.     How  do  you  read  us  this 
morning? 

We're  asleep. 

That's  the  understatement  of  the  year. 
Never  let  Eyajis  be  on  watch. 

I  think  we'll  go  along  with  that  from  here  on. 
. . .  good  morning. 

(Laughter)  That  was  some  party  last  night,  Gordy. 
Man,  that  was  a  humdinger. 

Must  have  "been. 


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02  09  h5  11    CC  IT,  Houston.  Over. 

SC  Go  ahead  . , , 

CC  Okay,  we're  starting  out  late,  as  you  know;  but 

there's  nothing  ahead  that  we  can  see  that's 
time-critical.    So  you  might  try  to  hurry  a  little, 
but  don't  -  don't  go  to  any  great  lengths  to  try 
to  catch  up  with  the  Flight  Plan,    We  can  slip 
the  LM  telemetry  activation  without  any  problem. 
Over. 

IMP  Okay,  we  got  you.    Our  biggest  problem  this  morn- 

ing is  keeping  Ron  from  going  back  to  sleep. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  By  the  way,  my  sleep  report  is  -  looks  like  I  had 

about  7-1/2  hoiirs  of  pretty  good  sleep. 

SC  And  if  you  believe  that,  you're  really  a  ... 

02  09  52  20    IMP  Okay,  Houston;  17.    I  don't  know  if  you're  ready 

for  this  or  not,  but  we  have  a  few  reports  for 
you, 

CC  We're  ready.    Go  ahead,  Jack. 

IMP  Okay.    On  your  CDR:    PRD,  17028;  he  claims 

7-1/2  hours  of  good  sleep.  He  had  a  Seconal  before 
going  to  bed,  and  since  the  last  reporting,  has  had 
four  containers  of  water. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  OkEQT,  with  respect  to  food  -  Let's  see,  we  gave 

you  a  -  intermediate  report  yesterday.    Do  you 
want  that  repeated? 

CC  Negative. 

LMP  Well,  I'm  not  sure  I  can  differentiate  what  I 

said  yestei^ay,  so         Jxist  better  give  it  all  to 
you.    This  is  yesterday's  complete  report. 


CC 


Ok^. 


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LMP  CDR  was  scrambled  eggs,  three  bacon  squares, 

peaches,  pineapple-grapefruit  drink,  peanut  butter. 
Jelly,  bread,  chocolate  bar,  orange  drink,  apricot  - 
that's  dried  apricot  -  one  frankfurter,  a  third  of 
a  fruitcake,  half  a  beefsteak,  butterscotch  pud- 
ding, orange  drink,  and  tea. 

CC  Okay,  we  got  that. 

LMP  Let  me  know  if  I'm  too  fast  for  you. 

CC  No,  we've  got  it  all  on  tape.     Go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay,  with  respect  to  food  yesterday  -  LMP:  scram- 

bled eggs ,  four  bacon  squares ,  orange-pineapple 
drink,  cocoa,  potato  soup,  two  peanut  butter, 
two  Jelly,  two  bread,  cherry  bar,  orange-grapefruit 
drink,  beefsteak,  orange  drink,  and  tea. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Okay,  and  the  PRD  is  -  - 

CC  Jack,  we're  Just  about  to  switch  antennas  now. 

Why  don't  you  wait  until  we  get  through  it  before 
continuing. 

02  09  55  '^O    LMP  Roger. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     You  back  with  us? 

Okay,  Jack.     I  think  we're  back  with  you  again. 

Okay;  got  you.    LMP:    PRD,  2ho6k;  T-l/2  hours  veiy 
good  sleep,  1  hour  intermittent.    Had  a  Seconal. 
I  took  two  aspirins  yesterday.    And  since  the  last 
reporting,  I've  had  fowr  containers  of  water. 

CC  Roger. 

02  09  58  29    LMP  Okay.     Old  CMP  -  the  man  of  the  hour,  one  mipht 

say.     Scrambled  eggs,  bacon  squares,  peaches, 
cinnamon  toast  bread,  orange  Juice,  cocoa,  peanut 
butter.  Jelly,  bread,  cherry  bar,  citrus  beverage, 
fruitcake,  butterscotch  pudding,  orange  drink. 


CC 
LMP 


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tiarkey  emd  gravy,  two  frankfurters,  and  tea.  You 
might  say  he  was  a  little  logey.    Okay.  CMP: 
PRD,  1502T;  T  and  a  -  let's  -  Make  that  8  hours 
of  very  good  sleep.    He  claims  he  didn't  get  to 
sleep  for  a  while,    Seconal,  and  he's  had  five  con- 
tainers of  water  since  the  last  reporting, 

CC  Okay. 


CC  Jack,  if  -  future  reports  if  it's  any  easier,  we 

can  go  to  negative  reporting.     If  you're  fairly 
close  to  the  memos.  Just  tell  us  the  differences. 
Whatever  is  easiest  for  you  is  fine  with  us. 

02  10  00  ho    IMP  Okay.    Well,  now  that  we're  eating  well,  that  may 

he  the  best  way  to  do  it. 

CC  Okay,    I  have  the  -  your  consumables  status,  if 

everybody  that's  interested  is  listening. 

MP  Go  ahead,  Gordon. 

CC  Okay.    Your  RCS  is  running  right  along  at  1.3  per- 

cent above  the  Flight  Plan  line.    On  your  cryos , 
the        tanks  2  and  3  are  right  on  the  lines. 

Tank  1  is  still,  as  before,  about  k  percent  below  - 
below  the  line  but  looking  real  good.     On  hydrogen, 
you're  a  little  above  on  one  tank  -  on  tank  2  -  a 
little  bit  below  on  tank  3,  but  the  average  is 
right  with  the  Flight  Plan  lines.     So  consumables 
look  good.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.     That's  good  to  hear.     And,  I  see  that  our 

old  SPS  oxidizer  pressure  has  dropped  some  more. 
I  guess  the  old  -  the  helium  is  working  it's  way 
in  there  -  or  out  of  there. 

CC  Okay.    That's  the  way  it  looks  to  us.    One  final 

thing.    Management  has  informed  me  that  since 
you've  been  so  late  getting  to  work  this  morning, 
we  are  going  to  have  to  dock  you  all  a  day's 
annual  leave. 


LMP  All  of  us !    I  can  understand  -  I  can  understand 

that  for  the  commander,  since  he's  always  the 
commander,  but  I  do  not  understand  why  the  LMP 
loses  a  day  -  an  hour. 


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CDR  Hello,  HoTiston.    This  is  America. 

CC  Hello,  Gene.     Good  morning. 

CDR  Hello,  Gordo.    Request  is  that  I  handle  the  dis- 

ciplinary protlems  up  here;  how's  that? 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Geno,  we'll  have  FAO  work  on  a  good  time  in  the 

Flight  Plan  later  here  to  work  in  a  captain's  mast. 

CDR  Okay;  (chuckle)  that'll  be  great.    Hey,  Gordy,  for 

the  record;  I  swallowed  three  of  those  -  those  gas 
pills  yesterday. 

02  10  Ol+  Qlt    CC  Okay. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

02  10  18  27    CMP  Houston,  17. 

CMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  we  see  the  93s;  and  you're  clear  to 

torcjue  them. 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  torque  them  at  19:20. 

02  10  19  17    LMP  And,  Houston,  I've  started  the  dumping. 

CC  Roger. 

02  10  20  07    LMP  And,  Houston,  we're  going  to  dump  A  on  the  water 

dump  -  WASTE  WATER  DUMP. 

02  10  20  11    CC  Okay. 

02  10  28  30    LMP  Houston,  we're  starting  a  -  0^  purge. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

CDR  Hey,  Gordo,  we'll  get  everything  cleaned  up  in 

the  Flight  Plan,  including  eating  up  to  59  hours, 
where  we  start  checking  the  DELTA-P  and  pres- 
surizing the  CSM  for  LM  entry. 

CC  Okay.    We  see  you  doing  all  that  now,  and  we're 

just  checking  things  off  as  you  call  them.  Sounds 
good. 

CDR  Okay.     And  then  when  we'll  clean  all  that  up  - 

regards  to  what  the  time  will  be  -  We'll  pick  up 
the  59-hour  mark  then. 

02  10  29  CC  Okay. 

02  10  31  30    IMP  Okay.    Waste  water  dump  is  terminated. 

CC  Roger. 

02  10  35  23    LMP  Fuel  cell  purge  complete. 


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CC  Roger  on  the  fuel  cell  purge. 

02  10  39  23    LMP  Hello,  Houston;  1?. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  Roger.     While  we're  getting  organized  to  eat  a 

little  bit  here,  I'll  give  you  jomt  morning  weather 
report,  if  you  want  it. 

CC  Okay,  go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    That  little  storm  -  fairly  big 

storm  ~  that  was  off  the  coast  of  northwest  Africa 
yesterday,  has  moved  inland  and  presumably  is 
giving  those  people  up  there  some  weather.  Might 
even  be  getting  some  snow  up  in  the  Atlas  Mountains. 
It's  still  fairly  well  organized  and  inland  a  few 
hundred  miles  -  or  the  edge  of  it  is  inland  a  few 
hundred  miles.    The  people  at  the  Cape  of  Good  Hope 
ought  to  be  seeing  some  clouds  that  are  forer\mners 
of  a  large  circulation  system  that's  south- 
southwest  of  them  -  that,  although  large,  it  seems 
to  have  most  of  its  heavy  clouds  to  the  southeast 
of  the  center.     And  they  may  not  get  any  major 
weather  out  of  this  one.     But  they'll  probably 
have  cloudiness  for  a  few  days.     The  storm  that 
was  over  Buenos  Aires  yesterday  has  apparently 
moved  out  to  sea  and  is  now  west  -  or  east- 
southeast  of  that  area.    Otherwise  the  -  except 
for  those  three  storm  areas,  the  South  Atlantic 
looks  relatively  calm.     The  zero  phase  point  is 
now  off  the  -  east  coast  of  South  America,  and  it 
looks  fairly  dull  and  gray.     And  I  suspect  no  ex- 
tensive choppiness  in  that  area. 

02  10  kl  50    CC  Jack,  take  a  breather  there.     We  got  an  antenna 

switch  coming. 

02  10  U5  10    CC  Okay  Jack,  we're  back  with  you  and  listening. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  I  can't  see  you  right  now.     I  think 

that  was  about  the  extent  of  it.  We'll  get  some 
food;  and,  while  I'm  eating,  I'll  look  at  it  and 
see  if  there  are  any  more  details. 


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Okay. 

17,  Houston.     I  have  the  morning  news  here,  when- 
ever you'd  like  to  hear  it  -  if  you  would. 

Go  ahead,  Gordo.     We'd  like  to  hear  it  now. 

Okay.     First,  a  look  at  the  weather  in  the  local 
area.     It's  going  to  he  mostly  cloudy  throuigh 
Sunday,  with  a  chance  of  showers  here  today  -  tut 
much  warmer.     I'll  have  to  wait  until  we  get 
through  the  omni  switch  here,  and  then  I'll  he 
back  with  you. 

Okay,  1T»  continuing  on  with  the  weather.  It 
should  be  -  get  up  to  the  upper  60s  here  in  Houston 
today.     It  was  foggy  when  I  came  to  work,  hut  I 
understand  the  Sun  is  out  now  and  the  fog  is  burned 
off.     On  the  international-national  scene:  There's 
another  reported  snag  in  negotiations  between 
Dr.  Henry  Kissinger  and  North  Vietnam's  Le  Due  Tho. 
The  two  have  discussed  the  peace  terms  since  Mon- 
day; but,  so  far,  little  news  concerning  the  talks 
has  been  released  by  either  side.     They  meet  again 
today.    A  judge  in  the  Pentagon  Papers  trial  of 
Daniel  Ellsburg  has  declared  a  mistrial.  Judge 
Matt  Bum  has  asked  that  a  new  jury  be  selected. 
Both  sides  in  the  cases  must  now  go  back  to  the 
beginning  and  prepare  their  arguments  again. 
Former  President  Harry  Triitnan  is  still  hospitalized 
with  a  serious  heart  condition.     Although  listed 
in  critical  condition,  the  88-year-old  former 
Chief  Executive  has  shown  some  improvement,  accord- 
ing to  his  daughter,  Margaret  Triiman  Daniel. 

President  Nixon  has  completed  selection  of  his  new 
cabinet  by  annoiancing  that  he  will  keep  Richard 
Kleindlenst  as  Attorney  General,     There  will  be  a 
number  of  major  changes,  though,  in  upper  levels 
of  the  Justice  and  Interior  Departments.  Life 
Magazine  will  be  no  more  as  of  the  end  of  December. 
The  pictorial  magazine  lost  over  30  million  dollars 
during  the  past  k  years.    No  doubt  some  of  the 
final  pictures  to  appear  in  the  famous  36-year-old 
publication  will  be  those  of  the  Apollo  IT  mission. 
An  airliner  crashed  at  Midway  Airport  in  Chicago, 
Friday.    Of  the  61  persons  aboard,  only  18  survived 


the  crash.     In  other  national  and  international 
highlights:    Unemployment  figures  show  a  drop  to 
the  lowest  level  in  2  years;  5.6  billion  dollars 
has  been  released  by  the  Federal  Government  in 
the  first  revenue-sharing  payment  to  the  state 
and  local  governments;  and  the  NATO  foreign  min- 
isters have  urged  the  Soviet  Union  to  cut  down 
troop  strength  and  slIIow  freer  movement  of  people 
over  the  east-west  borders.    In  locaJ.  and  regional 
news:     New  hijack  control  devices  have  been  in- 
stalled at  Houston  Intercontinental  Airport.  The 
new  metal  detectors  are  being  installed  in  many  air- 
ports around  the  United  States.    New  inspection 
procedures  will  also  begin  in  January  -  of  all 
hand  l\iggage  carried  aboard  airliners .    And  on 
the  sports  page:    Al  Conover  is  not  going  to  re- 
turn to  Wake  Forest  as  rumored.    The  Rice  coach 
has  met  with  University  President  Dr.  Norman 
Hackerman  to  discuss  a  firm  5-yeai'  contract  agree- 
ment.    Professional  football  highlights  today's 
sports;  the  "Over-the-Hill-Gang"  from  Washington 
with  Billy  Kilmer  and  Larry  Brown  will  take  on  the 
Dallas  Cowboys  at  Texas  StadiTm  in  Irving.  The 
Cowboys  will,  no  doubt,  go  with  Craig  Morton  at 
quarterback.    Dallas  can  ensure  itself  of  a  "wild 
cajrd"  slot  in  the  playoffs  with  the  Redskins,  if 
they  win .    For  Dallas ,  it's  a  revenge  game .  The 
Skins  have  won  nine  straight. 

Johnny  Bench,  the  Cincinnati  Reds  all-everything 
catcher,  has  been  hospitalized  for  tests.  X-rays 
showed  a  spot  on  a  lung.    Doctors  feel  sure  the 
lesion  is  benign,  thoiigh.    The  University  of 
Houston  basketball  team  takes  on  Xavier  tonight . 
The  Coijgars,  with  four  wins  and  one  loss,  will 
face  a  Xavier  team  that  likes  to  play  slowdown 
basketball.     The  Hotiston  Rockets  beat  the  Portland, 
Oregon,  Trailblazers  last  night  in  Hofheinz,  Ilk 
to  108.     The  Big  Eight  Athletic  Conference  has 
joined  the  Big  Ten  and  the  Ohio  Athletic  Conference 
in  breaking  relations  with  the  U.S.  Olympic  Com- 
mittee.   Back  in  Houston  again:     Bill  Peterson, 
the  Oiler  coach,  says  he's  not  planning  on  new 
assistant  coaches.    He  says,  "The  Oilers  need  more 
togetherness  with  their  coaches,  not  new  ones." 
And  a  final  item:    the  Des  Moines,  Iowa,  post 
office  was  emptying  a  mail  pouch.     One  package 


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fell  on  the  floor,  broke  open,  and  spilled  all 
over  the  place.     The  contents  were  Postal  Service 
instructions  on  how  to  wrap  and  mail  packages  to 
insure  safe  transit  and  delivery." 

02  11  00  02    LMP  Very  good  news  report,  Gordo  - 

CDR  Yes.     That  crash  in  Chicago,  can  you  tell  me  a 

little  hit  more  ahout  it? 

CC  I  read  real  briefly  in  the  paper,  just  before  I 

came  in,  that  it  did  crash  in  a  populated  area. 
It  was  a  very  brief  report.     I  don't  think  the 
final  details  have  been  published  yet.  I'll 
check  to  see  if  we've  got  anymore  in. 

CDR  Okay.    And  I  guess  you  know  where  -  at  least  my 

wishes  go  for  that  Cowbcy  game,  don't  you? 

CC  I'm  not  sure  that  I  do. 

CDR  I'll  just  let  you  make  an  assumption. 

02  11  00  59    CC  Okay.    We've  got  an  antenna  switch  coming  here. 

02  11  Oh  22    CC  IT,  Houston.     I  have  a  little  more  on  the  plane 

crash,  if  you'd  like  to  hear  it. 


CDR  Yes,  sir,  Gordy.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     It  was  a  United  Airlines  jet,  6l  people 

aboard.     And  it  crashed  Into  a  south-side  Chicago 
neighborhood  while  trying  to  land  at  Midway.  Most 
of  the  55  passengers  -  There  were  -  well,  I'm  not 
sure  I'm  getting  all  the  nimbers  right  here.  But 
it  said  here  that  most  of  the  55  passengers  were 
found  dead  in  the  debris  of  a  -  and  it  was  a 
Boeing  T3T  about  a  half  a  mile  away  from  the  air- 
port.    One  of  the  victims  was  representative 
George  Collins,  a  Democrat  from  Illinois  -  who  was 
returning  from  Washington  to  organize  a  children's 
Christmas  party.    The  weather,  at  the  time,  was  a 
500-foot  ceiling  and  1-mile  visibility.     And  sleet 
and  snow  were  falling  at  the  time.     There  were  no 
report  that  any  occupants  of  the  houses  were  in- 
jured or  killed.     I  turn  back  to  the  back  of  the 
paper,  here.     A  United  spokesman  said  one  of  the 


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six  crewmenibers ,  a  stewajrdess ,  was  among  l6  persons 
admitted  to  Holy  Cross  Hospital.     She  said  there 
were  two  infants  among  the  passengers.     Jet  appar- 
ently missed  runway  13  at  Midway  on  -  and  cruised 
over  the  neighborhood  of  bungalow  homes  at  heights 
of  500  to  1000  feet  and  then  with  his  nose  up  and 
tail  down  tore  into  the  dwellings.     Witnesses  said 
the  plane  scraped  the  roofs  of  two  bungalows  and 
sheared  through  six  houses,  setting  them  aflame. 
The  fuselage  of  the  airliner  split,  but  the  nose 
remained  intact.    A  tail  section  was  sticking  out 
of  one  house.    The  plummetting  airliner  sheared 
through  utility  lines  and  a  2-square-mile  area 
was  blacked  out.    Telephone  service  was  knocked 
out.     A  power  company  spokesman  said  5000  homes 
were  affected. 


CDR  Okey doke . 

CC  And  a  little  news  about  your  trajectory.  Since 

the  midcourse  2,  you've  been  looking  real  good. 
You've  -  you're  homing  in  on  53-1/2-mile  parallel. 
We're  discussing  midcourse  k,  which  -  if  we  do  it 
all  -  it's  going  to  be  very  small.     It's  looking 
like  about  a  foot  and  a  half  per  second  right  now. 
And  I  guess  if  we  do  it,  it  will  only  be  because 
it  will  save  us  DELTA-V  at  LOI.  Over. 


CDR  Okay,  I  was  Just  looking.     Those  dumps  really 

knocked  us  for  a  loop,  didn't  they? 

CC  Yes,  it  -  it's  driving  your  PTC  out. 

02  11  07  hi    CDR  Yes,  we're  at  almost  kO  degrees  now. 

IMP  Gordy,  has  the  temperature  been  pretty  cold 

down  there? 


CC  Here,  in  Houston,  it  warmed  up  considerably  last 

night  -  yesterday  afternoon  and  last  night.  And 
this  morning,  it's  probably  in  the  60s  somewhere. 


02  11  11  20  LHP 


Makes  it  - 


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02  11  18  33    CC  17,  Houston.     I  have  some  words  about  the  troubles 

we  had  during  the  LM  comm  checks  yesterday,  if 
you  have  a  free  moment  to  listen. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  Gordy.    We're  listening. 

CC  Okay.    We  think  we've  got  a  pretty  good  handle  on 

what  the  problem  was  -  and  that  was,  that  the  - 
the  LM  communications  gear,  we  think,  was  jumping 
on  the  voice  subcarrier,  rather  than  the  main 
carrier.    And  the  symptoms  that  we  had  point  to 
that.    What  would  happen  is,  when  I  would  try  to 
transmit,  then  it  would  lose  lock  as  soon  as  I 
put  modulation  on  the  voice  subcarrier.  During 
the  checks  today,  we're  going  to  try  to  verify 
that  the  system  is  indeed  working  okay.     And  we 
can  do  it  without  any  changes  in  the  onboard  pro- 
cedures by  -  piorely  by  procedures  that  will  be 
handled  at  the  ground  site  and  here  at  Mission 
Control.     And  so  that's  what  we're  planning  to  do. 
We  really  don't  -  The  problem  that  happened  has 
been  seen  before,  evidently;  and  it's  not  that 
iiniisual.     We  really  don't  think  there's  anything 
wrong  with  the  onboard  equipment.  Over. 

LMP  Sounds  good,  Gordy.    We'll  just  take  her  slow  and 

easy  when  I  get  over  there  today  and  make  sure  we 
understand  it. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     And  there's  no  -  real  no  voice  check 

scheduled,  and  we  don't  think  any  are  required. 
We  can  tell  what  we  need  to  do  without  any  voice 
checks  . . . 

LMP  Gordy,  you're  breaking  up.     Talk  to  you  as  soon 

as  we  get  another  omni. 

02  11  20  3h    CC  Okay. 

LMP  While  I  got  you,  I  took  three  pictures  of  the  Earth. 

I  thought  I  might  have  moved  one  of  them.  And 
we're  on  frame  1^+5. 

LMP  Did  you  copy,  Gordy? 


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CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.     I  copy.     You  may  not 

be  reading  me  through  the  omni  switch. 

LMP  Okay,  that  was  mag  November  November. 

02  11  21  21    CC  Roger. 

02  11  23  50    DIP  Houston,  IT.    Do  you  want  us  to  go  into  a 

battery  B  charge? 

CC  Let  me  check,  Jack.    That's  affirmative.    Go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay. 

02  11  25  2U    LMP  BATTERY  B  is  being  CHARGED.    And,  Gordy,  different 

than  the  last  time  -  the  charger  amps  is  moving  up 
very  slowly.     Started  out  at  about  0.02  and  now 
is  1  amp  -  little  more  -  It's  still  going  up.  Be- 
fore, it  Jumped  right  up  to  about  2  amps.     Is  that 
expected? 

CC  Oh  ...  we'll  check  on  that.     Stand  by. 

CDR  Gordy,  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P  is  0.6.     You  still  want 

us  to  taJte  the  command  module  up? 


CC 


Geno,  that'll  be  fine.  You  will  not  have  to  Jack 
up  the  command  module  pressure. 


CDR  Okay,  I  think  I'll  maneuver  at  attitude  then. 

02  11  26  1+0    CC  Okay;  sounds  good. 

02  11  28  07    CC  Jack,  the  way  the  amps  are  going  to  look  when  you 

put  the  charger  on  is  the  function  of  the  state 
of  the  charge  of  the  battery.     And  what  you  de- 
scribed is  about  what  we'd  expect,  considering 
where  the  battery  should  be. 

LMP  Okay;  that's  what  I  figured.     It's  up  about 

one  and  three-quarter  amps  now. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  it  appears  to  be  stable. 


I 


Tape  hl/9 


CC  Okay • 

LMP  Gordy,  I'm  in  the  process  of  -  I'm  in  the  process 

of  putting  hiomed  sensors  on. 

02  11  28  U5    CC  Roger. 

CMP  Hey,  Houston i  IT.    Thanks  to  a  little  South 

Carolina  boy  we  had  up  here  last  time,  we've  got 
some  grits  up  here.    And  they're  really  not  too 
bad.     A  little  butter  on  them  and  -  A  little  bit 
dry.    Of  course,  you  could  add  a  little  more 
water  to  them  and  they'd  be  a  little  better,  but 
not  bad  at  all. 

CC  I  can't  believe  I'm  hearing  that  from  a  real  Yankee. 

CMP  Of  course,  Kansas  is  not  exactly  Yankee. 

CDR  Let  me  tell  you,  that  does  not  apply  to  the  little 

old  farm  boy  from  Chicago. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  As  you  students  of  American  history  may  recall, 

Kansas  caused  a  lot  of  the  problem  we  had  with 
those  two  people. 

CC  Roger. 

02  11  31  U8    CDR  And  grits  is  causing  the  rest  of  it. 

02  11  32  39     CC  IT,  Houston.     We  see  that  you're  making  a 

maneuver  uncoupled  in  pitch,  and  we'd  rather 
you  make  it  coupled  to  keep  FDO  happy.  Over. 

LMP  Okay. 

02  11  33  56    CDR  Yes,  that  was  my  fault,  Gordo.     I  screwed  up  here. 

02  11  h2  50    CMP  Houston,  EMERGENCY  CAB  REPRESS  is  OFF. 

CC  Roger, 


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02  11  1+3  03    CMP  Okay,  REPRESS  PACKAGE  valve  is  OFF. 

CC  Say  again,  Ron. 

CDR  Hello,  Gordy.     You  with  tis? 

CC  Yes.     How  do  you  read? 

CDR  We're  reading  you  loud  and  clear.    The  EMERGENCY 

CABIN  PRESSURE  SELECT  is  OFF.     And  we're  about 
ready  to  open  the  EQUALIZATION  valve. 

CC  Okay.    And  we're  ready  for  the  high  gain. 

02  11  43  31    CMP  Okay. 

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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROTJMD  VOICE  TRANS CEIPTION 


02  11  kk  h2    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    That's  the  highgain.    How  do  you 

like  it? 

02  11  kk  U5    CC  Looking  good. 

02  11  1+5  19    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    I  was  reading  0.2  on  the  DELTA-P  and 

the  hatch  is  cracked. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

02  11  1+8  39    LMP  Hey,  Houston;  17.    How  do  you  read  the  LMPs  biomed? 

CC  Let  me  check. 

02  11  1+9  09    CC  Jack,  the  EKG  looks  great.    Your  ZPN  looks  like  a 

sensor  may  be  loose. 

CC  And  we'll  be  handing  over  here  in  -  - 

LMP  . . .  loose  sensor  . . . 

CC  -  -  about  30  seconds. 

02  11  1+9  31    LMP  Okay.    We're  in  the  process  of  getting  the  probe 

and  drogue  out.  I  pushed  on  the  sensors  real  hard 
a,gain,  and  see  if  that  helps  it. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  take  a  look. 

02  11  1+9  52    CC  That  helped  it.    Don't  worry  about  it,  until  we 

call  you  sigain. 

CDR  ...  on  that  one,  Gordy.    You've  always  been  one  of 

those  smooth  talkers. 

02  11  3k  51    CMP  There's  all  -  yes  -  they're  down  there  somewhere. 

02  11  51+  53    CMP  Okay.    The  probe  is  out.    And  we'll  try  the  drogue 

now. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

02  11  5T  50    CDR  Okay,  the  -  the  drogue  is  out,  and  we're  going  up 

to  take  another  look  at  Challenger. 


Tape  h2/2 


CC  Okay,  Gene. 

02  11  59  30    LMP  Somebody  left  their  lights  on  in  here. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  It's  just  like  a  refrigerator. 

CC  Roger. 
02  12  00  36    IMP  Docking  index  is  unchanged. 

CC  Okay.    It's  a  plus  1.2.  Right? 

02  12  00  J+lt    LMP  That's  affirm. 

02  12  03  17    CC  Ron,  Houston.  Over. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    When  you  get  a  -  a  moment,  when  it's 

convenient,  we'd  like  you  to  go  up  to  the  latch 
number  k  there,  the  one  that's  been  giving  \is 
trouble,  and  we'd  like  you  -  well,  we  think  it's 
Just  half  cocked  and  we'd  like  you  to  stroke  it. 
We  think  it  will  probably  cock  on  one  -  with  one 
more  stroke.    We'd  like  you  to  stroke  it  at  least 
twice  more  to  verify  that  it  is  really  cocked. 
And  as  you  do  stroke  the  handle,  we'd  like  you  to 
notice  approximately  what  point  in  the  -  in  the 
throw  that  the  resistance  increases.    I  think  that 
summarizes  what  we  want  you  to  do,  if  you  keep  us 
advised  as  you  go  along. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  We  -  we're  going  to  leave  it  cocked  then  from  here 

on  until  redocking  after  rendezvous.    Well  -  we 
don't  want  to  -  we  don't  want  you  to  fire  it. 

CMP  Sure.  Understand. 

02  12  05  08    LMP  Houston,  we're  transferring  to  IM  power. 

CC  Roger . 

IMP  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  going  to  give  them  UA  POWER. 

I'm  going  to  go  RESET  and  OFF. 


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02  12  05  21    IMP  And  we  have  LM  power. 

CC  Roger. 

02  12  05  h9    CDR  Gordo,  this  is  Geno. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Gene. 

02  12  05  5^    CDR  Okay.    While  my  compatriots  are  carrying  out  their 

respective  tasks,  I'm  going  to  go  off  the  sdr  here 
for  a  -  a  few  short  minutes.    And  give  you  a  call 
when  I  get  "back. 

CC  Okay. 

02  12  06  12    LMP  And  I'm  in  step  3,  Gordy,  on  2-2. 

CC  Roger. 

02  12  07  25    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    America  here.     I'm  on  ny  docking 

latch  number  k  now. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

02  12  07  50    CMP  Okay,  the  handle  itself  is  free  swinging  at  -  to 

a  point  about  1  inch  beyond  the  "backside  of  the 
J-hook . 

CC  Roger. 

02  12  08  10    CMP  And,  I'll  go  ahead  and  try  to  cock  it  now, 

02  12  08  21    LMP  Gordy,  ED  BATs  are  37.2  and  37-2,  and  the  BUS 

VOLTAGES  are  26.2  and  I'll  bring  on  the  high  taps. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    Sounds  good. 

02  12  08  h2    CMP  And,  Houston,  as  we  all  suspected,  it  has  one  cock 

on  it,  or  it  had  one  cock.    Now  it's  fully  cocked. 
And  the  handle  itself  is  free  swinging.  The 
plmger  has  depressed,  oh,  almost  three-quarters 
of  an  inch  from  the  top.    And  it  is  no  longer 
parallel  with  the  surface. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 


Tape  k2/h 


02  12  09  19    CMP  Okay.    When  you  look  tack  in  the  side  of  it  there, 

that  little  J-hook  with  the  snowman  in  it,  the 
snowman's  head  points  -  as  you  look  directly  at 
the  side  of  it,  it  points  -  the  snowman's  head  is 
at  8  o'clock  and  the  connecting  link  from  the  one 
that  connects  -  the  one  that  goes  into  the  plunger 
to  -  to  the  little  fat  J-bar  there,  is  parallel 
with  that  slot,  so  that  the  point  of  the  J  sticks 
out.    So  it  is,  indeed,  fully  cocked. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    Sounds  good  and  that's  where  we'd  like 

to  leave  it. 

CMP  Okay.    Will  do. 

02  12  10  20    mP  Okay.     Step  5,  2-3. 

CC  Roger. 

02  12  11  21    DIP  Okay,  Houston.    Step  5  coB5>lete.    Glycol  pressure 

is  21.     It's  down  about  a  psi  from  yesterday. 


CC 


CMP 
CC 

CC 

CMP 


Okay,  Jack.  Copy. 


02  12  11  32    CMP  And,  Houston,  is  magazine  II  a  good  one  to  use  for 

a  -  some  opportunity  interior  photos? 

CC  Let  me  check,  Ron. 

02  12  11  56    CC  That's  affirm;  II  sounds  good. 

Hope  so.    Looks  like  that's  the  only  one  1  have. 

Do  you  -  do  you  recall  when  you  did  the  heat  flow 
on  HH,  if  you  used  all  of  HH  up  on  that  experiment? 

Don't  get  it  out  to  look,  but  I  just  wondered  if 
you  remembered. 

...    No,  it  ran  out.    It  didn't  -  I  got  the  com- 
plete cooldovm  part  of  the  ex  -  of  the  experiment 
on  HH  and  then  switched  to  HIGH.    And  I  got  about 
2  minutes  of  HIGH  before  the  film  ran  out  again. 
Had  that  at  HIGH  power  on  the  -  on  the   


CC 


Okay,  Ron.    Thank  you. 


Tape  l;2/5 


CMP  iUrter  the  main  part  of  the  experiment  vas  com- 

plete. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  And,  Jack,  we're  copying  LM  data  now. 

02  12  13  02    IJyiP  Okay,  Gordy.    Beautiful.     I  was  just  going  to  say 

step  6  is  complete. 

02  12  16  1*5    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

IMP  Roger.    I  just  was  thinking  while  I  was  waiting 

here  that  the  cleanliness  of  these  two  spacecraft 
is  certainly  a  tribute  to  the  -  all  the  people  at 
Grumman  and  Downey  and  at  the  Cape,  who  worked  so 
hard  to  put  them  that  way. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  make  sure  they  hear  ahout  it. 

02  12  19  31    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We're  -  we've  looked  at  the 

LM  data  and  it  looks  perfect,  no  problems  at  all. 
What  we're  doing  right  now,  though,  is  -  is  -  the 
checkout  on  the  carrier  and  subcarrier  lockups  on 
the  IM  comm.  So  far,  we've  had  no  trouble  with 
it,  but  we  haven't  quite  completed  the  routine  we 
wanted  to  try.  Over. 

IMP  Okay.    I  \mderstand,  Gordy.    No  -  no  hurry  here. 

02  12  25  3^*    CC  Okay,  Jack.    We've  completed  our  Investigation  of 

the  comra,  there.     It  all  looked  good.    You  can 
press  on  page  2-'k. 

LMP  Roger. 

02  12  27  13    LMP  Say,  Gordy,  I  see  I  neglected  to  pull  the  BAL  LOAD 

circuit  breaker  when  I  went  to  -  after  going  to 
high  taps.  You  want  me  to  go  back  and  show  you 
that  again? 

CC  Stand  by. 


02  12  27  36  LMP 


That's  the  BAL  LOADs  breaker  on  l6,  so  the  buses 
were  tied  together. 


Tape  U2/6 


CC  Roger.    I  iinderstand. 

02  12  27  50    CC  Jack,  there's  no  need  to  go  back.    Just  keep  on 

going. 

LMP  Okay.    Sorry  about  that. 

CC  No  problem. 

02  12  31  1*2    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  all  ready  for  the  E-MOD 

dtmp,  if  it's  convenient  to  you. 

02  12  32  18    CMP  Houston,  this  is  America.    I  guess  that's  for  me 

isn't  it? 


CC 
CMP 


CC 
CDR 

CC 


That's  right,  for  Captain  America. 
(Lau^ter)    Okay.    We'll  get  her  here. 


02  12  32  39    CMP  Okay,  VERB  jk  ENTER. 

02  12  32  41*    CC  Okay,  we're  getting  It. 

CMP  Okay. 

02  12  33  11    CMP  And,  Houston,  we  have  50  percent  remaining  on 

magazine  India  India. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  they're  all  taken  at  6  frames  a  second. 

CC  Okay. 

02  12  33  5h    CC  Okay,  America,  we've  got  the  dump. 

02  12  3h  05    CMP  Okay.    Understand;  you  have  the  dump. 

02  12  37  35    CDR  Hello,  Clordo.    This  is  Geno.     I'm  -  back  on  the 

line. 


Okay.    Welcome  back. 

Yes,  I  was  Just  testing  out  the  survival  techniques 
in  space. 

Roger.    Did  you  survive? 


Tape  U2/T 


CDR  Well,  so  far. 

02  12  38  00    CDR  And  we've  got  the  IM  back  on  CSM  power. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  Gordo,  it's  called  education  of  necessity. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay.    I  guess  the  LM  looked  pretty  good  to  you, 

huh? 

CC  Yes,  sir.     It  looked  perfect.     And  we  also  went 

through,  the  little  comniunications  main  carrier 
sub  carrier  lockup  check,  and  the  -  and  the  comm 
system  worked  perfectly,  so  there's  no  problems 
at  all  to  report. 

02  12  39  07    CDR  Okay,  fine.    We'll  start  in  -  with  the  -  Jack 

donning  the  PGA,  and  then  I'll  follow  him. 

CC  Okay. 

02  12  ho  38    LMP  Gordy,  how'd  that  ZPN  turn  out? 

CC  Let  me  get  another  check,  here. 

02  12  kl  21    CC  Okay,  Jack.     It  looks  fairly  good  right  now. 

Don't  bother  changing  anything. 

IMP  Well,  I'm  just  going  to  be  in  a  position  to  work 

on  it  in  a  little  while  and  if  the  occasion  arises, 
I  could. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  keep  that  in  mind,  although  it  looks 

reasonable  at  the  moment.     It  has  shown  some  - 
at  some  times,  it's  gone  to  -  from  edge  to  edge 
on  their  scale  but  it's  come  back  in  right.  Find 
out  later  if  they  want  to  do  anything. 

02  12  h2  00    LMP  Okay,  the  -  the  electrolyte  pads  may  be  still  ex- 

panding a  little  bit  so  I'm  going  off  the  air 
briefly  to  start  getting  into  the  suit.    And  I'll 
talk  to  you  in  a  little  while. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  1*2/8 

02  12  53  1^8    CDR  Hello,  Gordo. 

CC  Hello. 

02  12  53  57    CDR  Okay.    We're  up  to  frane  covmt  151  on  magazine 

Novenajer  November,  ^ey've  been  plctitres  of  the  - 
primarily  of  the  CSM  out  the  LM  windowB  by  the  CMP, 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  He's  been  up  there  fooling  around  for  a  while.  We 

may  have  to  check  it  out  and  see  what  he  did. 

02  12  57  k2    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  Gordo. 

CC  That  dropout  there  was  because  Ascension  had  a 

problem.    We're  now  over  on  Madrid,  and  you're 
sounding  good. 

02  12  57  59    CDR  Okay. 

02  13  01  ik    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    Jack  is  in  his  suit,  unzipped  at  this 

time.  I'm  going  off  the  air,  and  Ron  will  come  on 
and  keep  you  informed  as  to  how  we're  going. 

CC  Okay.  Fine. 

02  13  03  07    IMP  Houston.    How  do  you  read  the  LMP? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

02  13  03  13    LMP  Okay.    I'm  in  w  suit,  presently  unzipped.  Didn't 

seem  to  be  any  problem  at  all. 

CC  Okay. 

02  13  OU  07    IMP  And,  Gordy,  I  think  I  found  the  problem  with  the 

biomed  sensors.    And  when  I  come  out  of  the  suit, 
I  can  fix  it.     I  put  a  little  of  that  bacterial 
cream  on  the  sensor  places  last  nigjit  as  a  pre- 
ventive medianism,  and  I  think  it's  Just  a  little 
greasy  to  hold  the  sensor. 


CC 


Okay. 


Tape  U2/9 


02  13  09  08    CMP  Okay.    Gene's  got  his  suit  on  and  he's  going 

across  to  the  llA  nav. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

02  13  15  26    CMP  Okay.    This  is  CMP.    1*11  go  off  the  line  here, 

for  a  little  hit,  until  I  can  get  ray  suit  on  again. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CMP  And  Jack's  still  on  the  line  up  there  in  the  IK 

thOTl^. 

CC  Okay. 

02  13  17  37    IMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  "both  zipped  now,  and  it  went 

quite  easily. 

02  13  17        CC  Okay,  Jack.    Sounds  super. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  U3/I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


02  13  29  37    CMP  ...  CMP.     I  fineilly  got  my  s^xit  on  now. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CC  America,  Houston,    Did  you  call? 

CMP  No,  I  was  Just  saying  -  the  CMP.    Got  my  suit  on 

now.    And  I  had  a  little  trouble  with  the  donning 
liners  getting  stuck  -  stuck  in  the  zipper;  but 
I  figured  out  how  to  get  them  out  of  the  way  now. 

CC  Okay. 

02  13  38  ho    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    Gene  has  his  suit  pretty  well  on 

now. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CC  We  reviewed  the  data  on  the  E-MOD.  Everything 

looks  normal.    One  thing  you  might  do  is  -  no  big 
thing,  but  you  might  zero  NOUN  26.    It's  still 
loaded,  left  over  from  the  EMP  you  used  in  the 
P23  yesterday. 

CMP  Okay.     Thank  you  much. 

02  13  39  h9    LMP  Gordy,  this  is  the  LMP.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Say,  when  I  was  switching  batteries,  I  noticed 

switching  from  low  to  high  taps  that  there  were 
some  reverse- current  indications.    Sure  that's 
nothing  to  be  concerned  about;  you  probably  ex- 
pected those ,  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.     That's  normal. 

LMP  Right . 


02  13  55  31  CC 


America,  Houston.  We'd  like  to  terminate  the 
charge  on  battery  B. 


Tape  it  3/ 2 


CMP 


Okay;  stand  "by  1.  Okay,  we'll  get  that  in  a  min- 
ute, Gordon. 


CC  Okay. 

02  13  58  51    CMP  Okay,  Gordo,  the  charge  should  be  terminated  on 

BAT  B. 

CC  Okay. 

02  13  58  57    CMP  And  7  Alfa's  still  -  7  Alfa's  still  0.6. 

CC  Roger. 

02  Ik  Oh  03    CDR  Okay,  Gordy,  I  -  I'm  looking  around,  but  I  can't 

figixre  out  what  that  MASTER  ALARM  is.     I  didn't 
see  any  0^  HIGH  PLOW  and  I  didn't  see  any  lights. 

and  we  did  get  it  down  in  the  LEB. 

CC  Okay,  Gene. 

02  Ik  Ok  20    CDR  And  there  it  is  again. 

CC  Roger. 
02  Ik  Ok  32    CDR  And  again. 

CC  Roger. 

02  lit  Ok  37    CDR  Okay,  I  saw  SPS  PRESSURE  blink  on  that  one. 

CC  Roger. 

02  lit  Olt  lt8    CDR  Yes,  Gordy,  she's  triggering  continually  on  SPS 

PRESSURE. 

02  lit  05  01    CDR  Yes.     I  can't  reset  it,  and  a  minute  later  she's 

coming  up  with  a  blink  on  SPS  PRESSURE. 


CC 


Okay,  Gene.    We  think  it's  the  -  well  -  well,  we  - 
we're  sure  that  it's  the  oxidizer  pressure  is  right 
on  the  trip  limit.    We're  almost  certain  it's  due 
to  helium  absorption. 


02  ll+  05  28  CDR 


Yes,  we're  reading  155  right  now. 


Tape  1*3/3 


CC  Roger. 

02  Ik  08  28    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    We  got  the  SPS  PRESSURE  light  on 

steady  now, 

CC  Roger. 

02  lit  15  25    CC  America,  Houston.     If  you  give  us  ACCEPT,  we'll 

give  you  a  new  state  vector.  Nothing  much  wrong 
with  the  one  you've  got,  but  we're  just  going  to 
tweak  it  up. 

02  Ik  15  36    CDR  Okay,  Gordy,  you've  got  it. 

CC  One  other  question.     Do  you  have  the  LM  closed  up 

now?    We're  seeing  some  heater  ciirrents  that  are 
a  little  high^  indicating  maybe  the  light's  still 
on.    And  we're  just  trying  to  understand  where  the 
LM  is  at  the  present  time. 

02  Ik  16  Ok    CMP  Okay ,  I  Just  closed  the  hatch,  just  about  the 

time  you  started  talking  there. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  take  a  look  at  the  currents  now. 

02  lit  l8  03    CC  America,  it's  yo\ir  computer,  and  we  did  the  VERB  66. 

CDR  Okay . 

02  Ik  29  03    CDR  Say,  Gordo,  what's  the  trend  in  thinking  on  that 

SPS  light  -  to  leave  it  lit  or  to  bump  the  pressure 
up? 

CC  Well,  I  -  Ed  Mitchell  must  be  at  work,  because  we 

were  just  talking  about  that  subject.     I'll  call 
you  when  they  come  up  with  a  final  decision. 

02  ll+  29  33    CDR  Okay.    And  Ron  has  put  the  -  has  closed  LM  hatch. 

He's  put  the  drogue  in.    He's  put  the  probe  in, 
and  he's  putting  the  CSM  hatch  in  as  a  one-man 
exercise  -  stiited.    So  he's  doing  the  whole  thing, 
and  he's  still  in  his  suit.    Qvtr  suits  are  stowed. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.    We  got  one  question  here,  that  -  just  - 

just  waiting  for  a  convenient  time  to  ask,  and 
that  was  -  wondered  if,  with  reference  to  the 


wakeup  problems  we  had  this  morning,  if  you'd 
clarify  jiist  exactly  why  Ron  didn't  hear  our  crew- 
alert  MASTER  ALARM.    You  know  exactly  why? 

Well,  it's  not  the  Seconal.    As  much  as  I  hate  to 
admit  it,  the  POWER  AUDIO/TONE  was  OFF  (chuckle) 
in  my  headset. 

Okay.    We  kind  of  suspected  that  -  that  one. 

Okay;  that  lets  you  rest  a  little  hit  easie^. 
And  just  to  prevent  something  like  that  from 
happening  again  -  or  if  it  should  happen  again  - 
what  we'll  do,  we'll  hook  up  the  tone  booster, 
which  we  didn't  have  hooked  up  last  night. 

Okay.    We  concur.    Sounds  good. 

Yes.     I  woke  up  and  I  saw  that  light  there  and  I 
thought,  "Gee-whiz,  I  just  got  it  in  time."  Until 
I  tried  to  push  -  push  out  that  caution  and  warning 
MASTER  ALARM.    And  burned  my  end  of  my  finger. 

(Laughter) 

I  was  also  in  a  sleep  restraint  and  upside  down 
with  a  zipper  in  the  back.    And  I  had  a  little 
problem  getting  my  hands  up  to  start  with,  also. 

Roger . 

Hey,  Houston,  CABIN  REPRESS  is  back  to  BOTH  now  - 
I  mean  IMERGEKCY  CABIN  REPRESS. 

Roger,  Ron. 

Gordo,  if  you  don't  have  any  objections,  we'd  like 
to  ge  ahead  and  secure  the  high  gain,  and  go  on  to 
PTC  while  Ron's  doffing  his  PGA. 

Let  me  check  and  see  if  we  have  any. 

Sounds  good  to  us.    Go  ahead  and,  per  Flight  Plan, 
spin  it  up. 


Okay. 


Tape  k3/5 


02  Ik  37  3k    CC  Okay,  I  didn't  want  to  mislead  you.    I  mean,  you 

can  get  ready  to  spin  it  up.  We'll  give  you  the 
GO  to  spin  up. 

LMP  Okay. 

02  lit  39  06    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     You  vant  to  leave  the  high  gain 

until  you  call? 

CC  Stand  hy. 

CC  Okay.    Jack,  this  is  a  good  attitude  to  go  to 

OMNI  Bravo,  and  you  can  go  ahead  and  secure  the 
high  gain. 

LMP  Okay. 

02  lU  kk  1*5    CC  America,  Houston.    The  rates  look  good;  you're 

GO  for  spinup. 

CDR  Okay;  great,  Gordo;  we're  GO  for  spinup.    We've  - 

we've  got  a  show  in  here  that  very  few  men  have 
ever  seen,  and  that's  a  CMP  trying  to  get  out  of 
his  suit  hy  himself. 

CC  Wish  I  was  there  to  watch. 

LMP  It  really  is  a  story  to  behold. 

CDR  Needless  to  say,  we're  both  very  impressed. 

CC  I  can  tell. 

02  lU  1^5  53    CC  America,  Houston.    Use  B/D  roll  for  spinup. 

CDR  Okay. 

02  ll+  U6  31    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    This  is  the  LMP  on  hiomed.  How 

do  you  read? 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    Let's  take  a  point  check  here. 

CC  America,  D-2  ROLL  is  not  on.    You  need  the  Delta 

ROLL  Jet. 


Tape  ii3/6 


Yes,  I'm  still  working  on  it,  Gordo.     I  was  just 
deciding  whether  to  spin  minus  or  plus;  but  I 
guess  we  ought  to  spin  minus,  as  per  the  Flight 
Plan. 


CC  Okay, 
02  Ih  hB  Ik    CDR  We're  on  our  way. 

02  Ik  k8  IT    CC  Okay.     Okay,  -  the  IMF's  EKG  and  ZPN  look  good. 

And  on  the  SPS  light,  we  recommend  not  doing  any- 
thing with  the  system.    We  want  you  to  go  to 
ACKNOWLEDGE  so  the  -  get  the  light  out  of  your  eyes , 
and  then  just  fly  there  in  ACKNOWLEDGE  on  the 
CAUTION  and  WARNING. 

02  Ik  k6  5k    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     We're  in  ACKNOWLEDGE,  and  -  I  pre- 

sume, probably  after  LOI,  we'll  be  able  to  go 
back  to  NORMAL,  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

02  Ik  k9  Ik    CDR  Is  that  an  abnormal  amount  of  helium  ingestion 

[sic],  or  do  you  think  that's  about  right? 

It's  -  it's  absorption,  and  that's  normal. 

02  Ik  52  06    CDR  Hello,  Houston.    You  read? 

CC  Loud  and  clear. 

02  Ik  52  12    CDR  Okay,  now  that  we  got  another  look  at  you.  Gordy, 

It  looks  like  Houston  might  be  right  on  the  fringes 
of  either  being  clear  or  clearer.    The  entire  Gulf 
is  pretty  nice.    Florida  looks  pretty  clear,  and 
Mexico  looks  pretty  clear.    There's  a  big  air  mass 
of  clouds  that  looks  like  it  picks  up  somewhere 
around  the  coast  at  Houston,  heads  on  up  north,  and 
then  covers  most  of  the  Midwest  and  the  East  - 
from  about  the  middle  of  Mississippi,  Alabama,  and 
Georgia  on  north.     It's  clear  enough  now  to  even 
see  the  coral  reefs  down  off  of  Florida. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  hk/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROim)  VOICE  TRASTSCRIPTION 


02  ik  52  5^    CDR  And  it  looks  like  west  Texas  is  probalDly  also 

pretty  clear,  at  least  in  a  run  from  east  to  west. 
We  can  see  Baja,  and  on  up  the  coast  of  CeLlifornia 
up  north. 

CC  Okay,  so\mds  like  the  whole  crew  is  turning  into 

weathermen . 

CDR  It's  one  of  the  better  views  we've  had  of  the 

States,  I  think,  even  though  we're  quite  a  ways 
out. 

CC  Roger.     Looks  like  your  suhso  -  suhsijacecraft 

point  is  just  about  at  Peru  right  now. 

CDR  Yes,  we're  -  looks  like  we're  looking  straight 

down  on  the  center  of  South  America,  pretty  close 
to  what  you're  saying. 

CDR  Gordy,  you  want  to  bring  us  up  to  date  briefly  on 

how  you  plan  on  handling  this  time  update  again? 

CC  Okay.     I'll  do  that.     Let  me  -  but  let  me  practice 

before  I  start  here.    Just  a  minute. 

CDR  Okay.    I'm  primarily  interested  in  those  paxts  of 

the  Flight  Plan  which  we're  going  to  eliminate. 

02  ik  55  l6    CC  Okay.    Just  one  second - 

02  ik  57  33    CC  Geno,  I'll  read  you  the  PAO  release;  they  summed 

up  pretty  well,  and  I'll  Just  use  their  words  here 
The  time  has  been  made  up  in  two  increments .  The 
first  one  of  1  hour  and  U5  minutes  in  the  Flight 
Plan.    The  crew  activities  were  jumped  ahead  by 
1  hour,  and  they  essentially  began  doing  those 
things  that  were  called  for  1  hour  later  in  the 
Flight  Plan.    They  will  again  Jimp  ahead  an  hour 
suid  kO  minutes,  and  that  will  occur  at  65  hours. 
:By  that  time  they  will  have  completed  all  those 
activities  required  up  through  67  hours  and  hO  min 
utes  in  the  Flight  Plan.    Or,  In  other  words,  they 
will  have  completed  all  the  activities  required  to 
get  them  into  lunar  orbit  2  ho\irs  and  Uo  minutes 


Tape  kk/2 


CDR 


early,  and  in  order  to  make  the  clocks  then  agree 
with  vhere  the  crew  will  he  in  the  Flight  Plan, 
we'll  jump  the  clocks  ahead  2  hours  and  ko  minutes. 
This  clock  update,  which  can  be  likened  to  going 
on  daylight  saving  time ,  only  2  hours  and  kO  min- 
utes worth  of  change  instead  of  1  hour  of  change 
as  we  do  on  daylight  saving  time,  will  occur  at 
65  hours  when  the  crew  will  have  completed  all  of 
those  Flight  Plan  activities  up  through  6?  hours 
and  1+0  minutes.     (Chuckle)    This  simply  involves 
setting  our  clock  to  65  hoTors  in  the  Control  Center 
and  aboard  the  spacecraft  to  65  hours,  moving  them 
ahead  to  6f  hours  and  1*0  minutes.     Then,  barring 
any  further  changes  in  the  mission  time  line,  from 
that  point  on,  the  elapsed  time  clocks,  which  are 
used  as  a  cue  to  Flight  Plan  activities,  should 
agree  with  the  Flight  Plan  and  events  that,  in  the 
Flight  Plan  are  called  out  for  a  certain  time  will 
happen  at  that  time  on  the  elapsed  time  clocks 
(laughter)  in  Mission  Control  and  aboard  the  space- 
craft,    (Laughter)    This  is  a  convenience  factor. 


You're  lucky;  we're  going  to  lose  an  omni. 
CC  Okay.     I'll  hold  off  there  for  the  rest. 

02  Ik  59  26    CDR  Gordy,  never  mind.    I  think  I  got  the  gist  of  it. 

02  15  Ok  16    CDR  Did  you  give  up,  Gordy? 

CC  Okay.    What  we're  really  going  to  do  -  (chuckle) 

really  is  simple.    At  65  hours  we're  going  to  do 
the  update  of  2  hours  and  1|0  minutes .    And  the 
procedures  are  shown  in  the  Flight  Plan  at  67:35. 
There  Just  happens  -  happens  to  be  really  no  -  no 
activities  we  have  to  reschedule  in  the  intervening 
time.    So,  after  the  update  is  complete,  we'll  be 
right  on  the  Plight  Plan,  both  timewiae  and  activ- 
itywise.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,    We're  looking  at  it.     Going  to  have  to 

sq.ueeze  my  shave  in  somewhere  else,  I  guess. 

02  15  07  38    CC  Hey,  Gene;  Houston. 


CDR 


Go  ahead. 


Tape  kk/3 


CC  Hey,  you  got  to  break  -  you  can  cast  the  tying  vote. 

Which  is  the  test  description:    the  water  h&g  or 
the  clock  one? 

CDE  Oh  yes.     Now  I  rememher.     You  got  a  little  -  give 

a  little  credit  on  this  last  one,  I  guess,  to  -  to 
Public  Affairs,  because  I  don't  think  Gordo  could 
have  thought  that  one  up  all  by  himself. 

CC  Very  diplomatic . 

CDR  . . .    Considering  I  -  I  was  trying  to  do  -  to  do 

Charlie's  techniq,ue  step  by  step,  I  guess  I  got  to 
give  him  little  bit  more  credit  from  the  gymnastic 
point  of  view. 

LMP  That  sounded  like  one  of  Gordy's  aircraft  schedules. 

02  15  09  07    CC  Amen. 

CDE  One  thing  they  didn't  ...    They  were  moving  another 

Satiirn  V  out  on  the  pad. 

CC  Jack,  we  lost  all  of  that  due  to  the  antenna  switch. 

Say  again. 

CC  Jack,  we  missed  your  last  transmission  -  - 

CDE  Gordy,  you  listening? 

CC  -  -  due  to  the  antenna  switch. 

CDE  You  say  you  got  it,  or  you're  getting  it? 

CC  No,  we  missed  it. 

CDE  Okay.     I  said  you  can  look  right  down  at  the  Cape 

area  -  that's  the  Cape  that  we  know  -  in  Florida, 
and  it's  little  disheartening  because  the  last 
time  I  was  up  here  looking  back  from  this  angle, 
they  were  moving  another  Saturn  V  for  another  Moon 
trip  out  on  the  pad  already.    But  I  guess  they're 
working  pretty  feverishly  out  there  on  B. 


02  15  11  53  LMP 


Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     I  think  Gene  was  right.  You 
got  some  -  probably  scattered  cloud  weather,  but 
not  very  far  away  from  you  there's  a  pretty  heavy 


mass  of  clouds.    It  may  be  the  forerunner  of  that 
dry  cold  front  you  were  talking  about  yesterday, 
which  I  can  see  stretching  over  into  Sonora.  But 
where  it  hits  the  stateside,  it's  got  quite  a  mass 
of  clouds  associated  with  it.     It  looks  like  they're 
moving  in  your  direction. 

Okay,  Jack,  thanks  for  the  warning. 

Clear  behind  it,  in  Arizona  and  New  Mexico  and 
maybe  southern  Colorado,  it  looks  like  there  may 
be  another  front  stretching,  or  maybe  it  hits 
northern  Arizona  and  Utah  and  up  through  northern 
Colorado,  and  on  in  to  Canada,  trending  northeast. 

You're  calling  it  right  on,  Jack.     I'm  looking  at 
the  siirface  chart,  and  that's  about  what  we  see. 

Looks  like  a  low  might  be  developing  on  that  one  - 
a  wave  up  in  northern  Colorado  and  -  although  the 
clouds  are  a  little  hard  to  read. 

Roger . 

Our  sub  -  or  our  zero  phase  point  -  About  20  degrees 
west  of  Bolivia,  our  sub  -  our  zero  -  zero  phase 
point,  and  it  is  quite  a  bit  brighter  than  yester- 
day and  looks  as  if,  and  more  general,  as  if  maybe 
the  seas  have  picked  up  in  that  region  a  little  bit. 

Roger . 

One  of  the  more  unusual  features  is  developed  -  as 
I  see  -  developed  in  the  southeast  Pacific  just 
north  of  the  Ross  Sea  and  that  is  a  very  striking 
mushroom  pattern  on  a  very  large  scale.    It  has 
north/south  clouds  streaming  streamers  from  the 
Ross  Sea.    And  when  it  gets  up  about  the  latitude 
of  Tierra  del  Puego,  but  quite  a  bit  west  of  that 
land,  it  brajiches  out  to  the  east  and  west  in  a 
large  m\ishroom  pattern.    And,  it  looks  like  the 
top  of  that  mushroom  may  be  a  curved  cold  front 
that's  pushing  its  way  up  into  the  southeast  Pa- 
cific.    It  currently  -  the  eastern  edge  of  that 
front  is  probably  10  degrees  longitude  from  Tierra 
del  Fuego,  and  it  looks  like  that  land  in  southern 
Chile  is  picking  up  high  clouds,  probably  associ- 
ated with  that  front's  movement. 


Tape  kh/3 


CC  Roger . 

LMP  I'll  get  some  shots  of  that  next  time  around. 

That's  a  spectacular  pattern.     You  almost  get  the 
feeling  that  the  cold  airmass  moving  out  of  Ant- 
arctica streams  for  a  while  north/south.    And  then 
it  picks  -  The  cloud  patterns  change  and  as  it 
starts  to  migrate,  the  winds  start  to  change  from 
east  to  west.    Mayhe  that's  where  it  encounters 
the  Jetstream. 

02  15  16  29    CC  Roger. 

02  15  19  ^5    CC  America,  Houston.    I  have  a  couple  of  miscellaneous 

items  here . 

CMP  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  you  to  disable  B2  and  D2  just 

for  a  drill  here. 

CDR  Oh,  thank  you,  Gordo. 

CC  Also,  the  SHe  tank  looks  exactly  nominal,  as  far 

as  the  rise  rate  goes ,  to  us . 

CDR  Can't  argue  with  that. 

CC  And  to  summarize  your  film  budget  situation,  have 

three  magazines:     KK,  LL,  and  MM  are  budget  for 
the  schedtiled  photos  such  that  they  have  only 
five,  19,  and  one,  respectively,  frames  left  over 
after  you've  done  all  the  scheduled  pictures.  And 
November  Novanber,  we  think,  has  just  -  has  just 
nine  frames  remaining  now.    The  two  nonscheduled 
magazines  are  00  and  PP;  160  frames  each.  Those 
are  the  ones  provided  for  optional  use.     We  have 
hh  additional  frames  scheduled  out  of  November 
November ,  scheduled  dwing  lunar  orbit ,    There  is 
only  nine  left  in  it  now,  so  we'd  like  to  save  at 
least  60  frames  out  of  either  Oscar  Oscar  or  Papa 
Papa,  the  two  optional  magazines,  to  cover  the 
schediiled  frames.     Guess  what  we're  saying  is 
there  is  no  problem.     We've  still  got  plenty  of 
film,  but  you  will  have  to  use  some  of  your  op- 
tional mags  for  scheduled  pictures.    Sixty  frames 
is  what  we  want  to  save. 


Tape  kk/6 


CMP 


Okay;  mighty  fine,  Gordo.  Plan  on  Oscar  Oscar  for 
that  magazine. 


02  15  22  12    CC  Okay. 

02  15  3U  12    LMP  Gordy;  this  is  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

^  I  -  Cal  Tech  will  never  forgive  me;  I'm  a  little 

hesitant  on  my  elementry  optics.    But  I  just  put 
Ron's  polarizing  filter  in  front  of  the  monocular, 
looking  at  the  Earth  and  rotate  90  degrees,  and 
from  max  to  min  in  terms  of  brightness,  there's  a 
remarkable  change.    And  I  suspect  that  means  that 
the  Earth  is'  polarizing  light  enough  to  see  it . 
Ihe  main  thing  that  happens  is  that  the  oceans 
get  considerably  darker  when  I  rotate  the  filter 
towards  the  dark  position  anyway.    The  continents 
don't  seem  to  show  any  obvious  change,  but  the 
oceans  and  the  zero  phase  point  darken  -  oh,  I 
"^^^^  Suess  by  a  factor  of  two  in  brightness. 
Maybe  that's  an  extreme,  but  I  think  it's  that. 

CC  Roger.    I  was  just  trying  to  think  of  a  reason. 

Is  it  uniform  change  over  all  ocean  areas,  or  is 
it  more  of  a  change  in  some  areas  than  others? 

Well,  I'd  say  that  the  subsolar  point  shows  the 
greatest  change,  but  you  can  still  -  the  zero 
phase  point  shows  the  greatest  change.    But  all 
the  oceans  get  darker. 

02  15  35  51    CC  Very  interesting.    We  are  just  about  to  switch 

omnis . 

02  15  1+2  15    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP 


CC 


Gordy,  I  figure  you're  getting  an  optics  briefing 
ready  for  me,  right? 

I  haven't  had  anybody  volunteer  one.  Strictly  some 
layman  theories  going  around,  but  nothing  official. 


LMP  Okay. 


Tape  hh/7 


02  15  1*6  05    CC  America,  Houston.     Just  got  started  on  the  Cowboy- 

Redskin  game,  about  5  minutes  into  it.    The  Cow- 
boys are  ahead  7  to  nothing.    They  scored  the  first 
time  they  got  the  ball. 

LMP  Gordy,  you  started  talking  before  we  had  an  omni. 

Try  it  again. 

CC  Okay.    The  Cowboy-Redskin  game  just  got  started. 

It's  now  T  to  nothing.  Cowboys.    They  scored  the 
first  time  they  got  their  hands  on  the  ball. 

IMP  Okay.    I  think  we  got  most  of  that.    It  happened 

again,  though. 

CDR  Did  you  say  it  was  7  to  nothing.  Cowboys? 

CC  That's  what  I  said.     They  scored  the  first  time 

they  got  the  ball.     It's  -  the  game's  Just  about 
5  minutes  old. 

CDR  Outstanding.     I  thoiight  this  was  Saturday.     Isn't  - 

isn't  today  Saturday? 

CC  It  is,  but  the  college  is  all  through,  so  the  pros 

are  playing  on  Saturday  now. 

CDR  Beautiful.    Seven  to  nothing,  huh?    Go  get  'em. 

Cowboys . 

LMP  But,  he  would  say  the  same  thing  for  Washington, 

I'm  sure. 

02  15  hj  1^5    CDR  Nosiree.    Go  get  'em.  Cowboys. 

02  15  h8  57    CMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordo,    ^fy  apologies  on  the  CMP's  insuit 

drinking  bag.    There  was,  in  fact,  water  in  it. 
However,  somehow,  when  we  put  the  suit  on,  the 
water  bag  had  gotten  turned  sideways,  I  guess,  is 
the  way  to  explain  it.     It  had  gotten  turned  side- 
ways such  that  the  suction  tube  was  crimped  side- 
ways.   And,  as  a  result,  there  was  no  way  that  you 
could  get  any  water  to  go  through  the  tube. 


Tape  kk/8 


CC  Okay.     You're  talking  about  the  problem  we  had 

there  Just  before  launch,  right? 

CMP  That's  affirmative  -  prelaunch. 

CC  Okay,  and  for  your  information,  the  PTC  looks  good. 

It  ought  to  hold. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine.    I  lost  my  scissors.    If  there 

is  anything  you  can  do  to  help  me  find  them,  I'd 
be  -  appreciate  it. 


CC  Okay. 
02  15  50  22    CMP  Okay  (laughing). 

02  15  52  kO    CC  Got  a  game  plan  update  for  you  here.     It's  now 

ll^-nothing,  Dallas;  still  in  the  first  quarter. 

CDS  You're  sure  a  bearer  of  good  news,  Gtordy.  That's 

great . 

IMP  Gordy,  I  just  -  this  is  Jack.    I  just  tried  the  red 

filter  on  the  front  of  the  monociaar  and  about  the 
only  major  thing  I  noticed  was  that  the  cloud  pat- 
terns overjbhe  landmasses  seemed  to  be  enhanced. 
The  contrast  between  cloud  and  land,  particularly 
green  land  is  enhanced.    Otherwise,  all  it  does  is 
make  the  red  -  the  Earth  look  a  little  red. 

02  15  53  3T    CC  Roger,  Jack. 

02  16  Ok  13    cm  Hey,  Gordo;  this  is  Gene. 

Hey,  Houston;  this  is  17. 

Roger,  Geno.    I  think  we've  got  you  now.    Go  ahead. 

Okay,  Geno.    I  think,  we  got  you  

CDR  ...  17. 

CC  -  -  Now.    Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,    I  just  happened  to  be  throwing  a  few 

switches,  and  I  see  owe  helium  tank  temperature 
on  quad  A  is  about  95  or  so.    And  the  others  are 
quite  low.     Is  that  because  of  our  attitude  there 
during-  the  LM  checkout? 


CDR 

CC 

CC 


Tape  hh/9 


CC  That's  affirm.    That's  the  reason. 

CDR  Okay.    I  also  see  the  tank  that  -  package  tempera- 

ture a  little  higher  on  that  quad  too.    But,  heing 
close  to  a  hxmdred  it  seems  a  little  unusual. 
You're  -  you're  happy,  right? 

CC  That's  affirm.    No  problem.    We've  been  watching 

it,  and  it  seems  to  be  coming  down  now. 

CDR  Okay.    Fine.    Thank  you. 

02  16  09  07    LMP  Houston,  you  want  the  H    HEATERS  to  AUTO  and  the 

FAN  3  OFF  now? 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack. 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.    Go  ahead. 

02  16  09  51*    LMP  Okay.    That's  done. 

CC  Now  21  to  nothing.  Cowboys.    Second  quarter. 

CDR  Super  Bowl,  here  they  come.    Watch  out  now. 

CC  Should  remind  you  that  the  Commander  in  Chief  is 

a  Redskin  fan. 

CDR  I  read  about  that.    That's  why  the  Cowboys  need 

as  much  help  as  they  can  get , 

LMP  Gordy,  in  the  continuing  saga  of  looking  at  the 

Earth  through  rose-colored  glasses,  I  tried  a 
blue-colored  glass,  and  it  -  as  you  might  expect, 
completely  masks  out  the  continent.    The  land  areas 
axe  just  not  visible  through  the  blue.  Otherwise, 
the  ocean  and  clouds  -  or  the  contrasting  ocean 
and  clouds  remain  about  the  same. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And,  Gordy,  I  tried  putting  all  the  filters  we  had 

together  to  check  the  Sun  for  sunspots ,  but  Just 
not  quite  enough  light  attenuation  to  do  that . 

CC  Okay.    For  a  while  I  thought  you  were  a  human 

weather  satellite.    Now  I  think  you're  a  human 
Esjrth  resources  satellite. 


Tape  hk/10 


LMP 


LMP 


Well,  about  all  I  can  say  is  I'm  a  satellite  I 
guess . 

Gordy,  it  looks  as  if  the  distribution  of  water  and 
ice  in  the  ri  -  Ross  Sea  has  changed  in  the  last 
day  or  two.    I  don't  remember  looking  at  it  yester- 
day specifically,  but  it  seems  to  be  different 
today  than  it  was  the  first  day. 

02  16  12  k6    CC  Roger. 

02  16  19  53    LMP  Houston,  1?. 

CC  Cjo  ahead,  Jack. 

LMP  Yes,  about  this  icepack  in  the  Ross  Sea.     The  -  as 

I  remember  a  couple  days  ago,  there  were  two  clear 
areas,  triangular  in  shape  and  quite  elongate,  that 
were  projecting  out  into  the  sea  from  the  inner- 
most part  of  the  bay,  or  the  -  from  the  continent. 
Today  those  are  not  apparent,  at  least  the  first 
look  I  made.    And  it  looks  like  there  is  an  elon- 
gate, more  irregular  clear  area  that  is  roughly 
parallel  to  the  Antarctic  coastline  within  the  sea 
itself.     We'll  check  that  a  little  more  closely  and 
see  if  that's  right. 

CC  Okay.    Seems  like  kind  of  a  quick  change  for  some- 

thing like  ice,  doesn't  it? 

LMP  Yes,  and  that's  what  bothers  me.    That's  why  I 

wonder  if  I'm  not  being  fooled  by  cloud  patterns 
or  something. 

02  16  21  16    CC  I'm  looking  at  a  satellite  picture  here,  which  I 

guess  is  around  12  hours  old  though.    But  over  to 
the  east  of  Australia,  maybe  about  a  continent 
width  east  of  AustrEilia,  there  is  really  striking 
long  frontal  system  -  striking  because  it's  so  long 
and  so  straight,  sort  of  west-northwest,  trending 
west-northwest  and  east-southeast  trending.  Can 
you  see  that? 

02  l6  23  38    CDR  Gordo,  are  you  there? 


CC 


Yes,  sir,  right  here. 


Tape  1+14/11 


CDR  Okay.    Now  Jack  and  I  may  be  talking  about  two 

different  frontal  systems  or  patterns,  but  the 
one  I  think  you  might  be  referring  to  is  the  one 
I  referred  to  yesterday  as  a  ruffled  parrot ' s 
beak.    Actually  two  of  them  tied  together,  one 
starting  up  probably  southeast  of  Australia  and  - 
and  then  heading  down  with  a  long  arcing  frontal 
system  to  another  clockwise  rotational  parrot's  - 
parrot's  cone,  I  should  say,  down  around  -  near 
the  tip  of  South  America,  between  it  and  Antarctica. 
There  is  one  strong  tributary  front  heading  up  to 
the  north-northwest  from  the  western  side  of  this 
big,  arcing,  frontal  mass.    And  I  think  that's 
probably  what  you're  referring  to.     I'm  not  sure. 
I  can't  quite  see  Australia  coming  up  over  the  - 
over  the  horizon  yet . 

CC  Okay.     1  -  my  pictiire  cuts  off  right  about  the  - 

oh,  two-thirds  of  the  way  south  in  Australia,  that 
latitude.    So  most  likely  we're  talking  about  the 
same  thing,  but  I  can't  verify  the  southern  part 
of  it . 

02  l6  25  19    CDR  There  is  some  tremendous  -  western  side  of  that 

cvocve  front  is  a  tremendous  clockwise  rotational 
airmass.     It  must  cover  hundreds  of  square  miles. 
The  one  down  near  -  near  the  continent  of  Antarc- 
tica, down  there,  near  the  tip  of  South  America, 
seemed  to  be  squashed  slightly  as  if  there  is  pos- 
sibly some  -  some  squashing  or  effect  coming  off  - 
off  the  South  Pole  area  near  Antarctica.    I  think, 
if  I  turn  aroTind  and  look  at  it  the  way  Jack  was 
looking  at  it,  it's  a  cap  of  a  mushroom.  Only 
instead  of  simply  curving  in  underneath  the  cap, 
it  has  clockwise  rotations  on  both  sides  as  it 
curves  xmder. 

CC  Roger . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAIJSCRIPTION 


02  16  28  28    LMP  Gordy,  I  just  took  two  pictures  of  the  Earth  at 

the- present  time.    And  those  are  -  Right  now  the 
camera  is  on  frame  153. 

CC  Okay;  153. 

LMP  Gordy,  where  did  you  say  your  ATS  satellite  picture 

left  off  to  the  west? 

CC  Okay.    To  the  west,  it  goes  clear  on  over  to  Africa. 

But  to  the  south,  it  cuts  off  about  30  south,  or 
not  q^uite  all  of  Australia. 

LMP  Okay.     Yes,  that  mushroom  pattern  we've  been  talking 

about,  on  either  edge  -  either  end  of  the  cap  -  and 
the  mushroom  points  north  -  is  a  major  cyclone  cir- 
culation system.    And  also  taking  -  moving,  in  one 
case  -  or  trending,  in  one  case,  to  the  northwest 
and  the  other  to  the  northeast ,  there  are  linear 
cloud  patterns.     Gives  it  a  very  symmetrical  and  a 
striking  appearance.     I  hope  it  shows  on  those 
pictures . 

02  16  30  h3    CC  Okay.     It  doesn't  show  on  the  one  I  got.  Maybe 

a  later  version  will  have  that  one.     Because  it 
cuts  -  it's  cut  off  on  this  one. 

CDR  (Chuckle)  Hey,  Gordo.     This  is  Geno. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  To  put  this  update  in  simple  terms  -  at  65,  I  guess 

on  our  clocks,  you'll  update  us  to  about  67:^0, 
right? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Does  that  mean  we  have  to  eat  2  hours  and  ko  min- 

utes earlier? 

CC  Oh,  you  got  me  there.    I  -  You  haven't  been  eating  - 

you  haven't  eaten  since  breakfast.     Is  that  right? 

CDR  Oh,  yes,  sir.    We  just  finished.    We'll  take 

another  go  at  it,  but  I  feel  I've  spending  my  life 
here  eating. 


Tape  1+5/2 


CC  Yes.     Well,  we'll  leave  it  up  to  you  on  this  special 

case  here. 


CDR 


Okay,  I  think  we'll  take  -  a  -  a  jab  at  supper  here 
later  in  the  day  as  per  the  Flight  Plan. 


02  16  3k  02    CC  All  right, 


CDR  Gordy  -  the  whole  suiting  operation  -  I  was  really 

very  pleased  with.     Jack  and  I  both  got  in  our 
suits  very  easily.    And  one  by  one  we  went  into 
the  LM.     And  that's  where  we  zipped  each  other  ur. 
And  we  really  had  little  or  no  trouble.    We  took" 
our  time.     We  got  all  configured  in  terms  of 
changing  our  pockets  around  and  whatever  else  we 
needed  to  do.    And,  actually,  I  think  it's  much 
easier  to  get  suited  than  it  is  to  get  unsuited, 
personally. 

CC  Okay.     Soimds  good. 

CDR  Eon  stayed  suited  and  did  the  entire  tunnel  work. 

And  then  went  -  did  it  by  himself  -  and  then  totally 
doffed  his  suit  and  stowed  it  by  himself,  also,  to 
sort  of  extend  that  little  exercise. 

02  16  35  16    CC  Roger. 

02  16  h6  31    CC  America,  Houston.     Halftime  score  is  28  to  3  - 

Cowboys . 

CDR  Keep  talking,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay,  I'll  keep  talking  (laughter).    The  -  I've 

learned  that  when  you  get  to  the  ALFMED  and  pull  it 
there,  you'll  see  some  tape  around  the  emiilsion 
shields.     Those  are  three  rectangular  areas  in 
front  of  your  eyes  and  to  either  side  that  contain 
the  photographic  emulsion.     This  tape  is  around  the 
edges  of  each  of  those  three  areas  to  help  seal  out 
light  leaks.     You  haven't  seen  it  before.  Leave 
the  tape  on  there.    Don't  pull  it  off.  Over. 

CDR  Okay. 

02  16  48  12    LMP  Gordy,  Just  took  a  series  of  pictures  of  the  Earth 

with  the  35-millimeter  using  the  polarizing  filter 


Tape  i+5/3 


in  the  two  positions.    And  the  frame  count  is 
now  39-     I  took  six  pictures.    And  with  the  filter, 
on  the  first  of  each  pair,  in  the  DOWN  position. 
The  second's  in  the  UP  position.    And  I  changed 
the  f-stop  from  -  the  first  set  at  f/U,  the  second 
set  at  f/2,  and  the  third  set  at  f/8. 

CC  Okay;  we  got  all  that,  Jack. 

LMP  And,  Gordy,  you  might  ask  one  of  the  experts 

around  there  in  -  Is  the  lightmeter  in  the 
35-iiiillimeter  integrating  over  the  interior  spot, 
or  over  the  hairline  spot?    The  larger  one. 

CC  Okay,  I'll  ask. 

LMP  It  acts  as  if  it's  the  interior  one,  hut  ... 

02  16  1+9  52    CC  Okay. 

CC  Jack.    The  answer  to  your  question  is  the  center 

spot  is  weighted  for  60  percent  of  the  reading 
and  the  rest  of  it  for  kO  percent.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.    That  -  that  makes  sense.    That  would  explain 

why  the  needle  moved  as  I  moved  it  across  the  series 
of  spots . 

02  16  51  W    CC  Roger. 

Note:    At  2  days  17  hours,  the  GET  in  the  MCC  was 
updated.     To  correlate  times  from  this  point  on, 
add  2  hours  hO  minutes  to  those  shown  in  this 
transcript  to  make  them  correspond  to  MCC  GET. 

02  17  00  k2    CDR  Gordo,  we're  -  we're  ready  any  time  you  are  for  that 

update.    And  after  we  get  the  T    ,       and  everything 

ephem 

squared  away,  we'll  go  into  ALFMED. 

CC  Roger.     Stand  by  on  that,  Geno;  and  we'll  he  with 

you  in  a  minute. 

CDR  Hello,  Robert.    How  are  you  today? 

CC  Real  fine.  Gene.     You're  sounding  great. 


Tape 

02  17  01  06    CDR  Doing  great  out  here. 

02  17  03  h3    CC  Geno,  we're  ready  for  the  clock  update.     We'd  like 

POO  and  ACCEPT.  And  we're  got  two  loads  to  put  in, 
so  it  will  take  a  couple  of  minutes  here. 

CMP  Okay,  you  got  it? 

02  17  03  58    CC  Thank  you,  Ron, 

02  17  06  08    CC  17,  Houston,     I've  got  an  update  on  your  flyby 

maneuver  pad  due  to  this  clock  update.     Would  you 
like  to  copy  it? 

CDR  Stand  hy  just  1  second  (music). 


LMP 


Okay,  Houston.     Go  ahead  with  the  flyby  pad. 


CC  Okay,  stand  by  1  on  that  -  on  our  end.     We're  done 

with  the  -  we're  done  with  the  up-load.     The  com- 
puter is  yours,  and  we  need  a  read-out  on  the 

T 

ephem* 

LMP  Okay,  that's  in  work. 

CC  Okay,  we've  got  the  read-out. 

02  17  10  05    CC  17,  Houston.    The  data  looks  good,  and  you're  GO 

to  copy  it,  and  recommend  you  copy  it  into  the 
Plight  Plan  Supplement.    And  that's  on  page  1-1+3 
of  the  supplement. 

02  17  10  27    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    We  have  it. 

02  17  11  k9    CC  And,  17,  we  got  that  flyby  pad  now.     If  you're 

still  residy,  we're  ready. 

LMP  Okay.     Is  this  a  full  pad  or  Just  a  change  to  the 

other  one? 

CC  It's  Just  a  change.  Jack.     It's  a  change  to  NOUN  83, 

the  GETI,  and  a  change  to  the  bottom  line,  the 
GET  of  .05G.     Just  two  changes. 


LMP 


Okay,  go  ahead. 


Tape  1+5/5 


CC  Jact,  if  you'll  just  add  2  hours  and  hO  minutes 

to  each  one  of  them,  that's  it.    The  GETI  is 
08l:5l+:U3.U9.     The  GET  of  .05G,  156:0U:03-  Jack, 
I  guess  I  read  8l.     I  was  looking  at  the  old  pad. 
It's  83  -  083  -  on  the  GETI- 

LMP  You're  too  fast  for  me.     I  was  just  going  to  chew 
you  out. 

CC  Sorry  about  that,  Jack.     I  got  it  around  the  room. 

LMP  083  -  (laughter)  083 :5i+: ^3.^+9;  156:Ol+:03. 

CC  Roger. 

02  IT  Ik  10    CDR  Okay,  Boh.     We  got  all  of  our  clocks  set  on  board. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

CDR  What  was  the  exact  amount  of  that  update  time? 

CC  Two  hours,  kO  minutes;  2  plus  kO. 

CDR  Okay,  2  plus  kO,  exactly.     Thank  you, 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.    We're  going  to  work  up  sin  appetite 

with  the  ALFMKD  today. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Hey,  Bob.    May  be  a  little  premature  -  but  I  don't 

think  so  -  but  I  think  there  was  some  good  thinking 
into  that  update,  looking  at  the  Flight  Plan  up 
until  now  and  where  we  go  from  here.     I  don't  think 
we  -  we  overlooked  a  thing. 

CC  Roger.     Like  I  said  the  other  night,  we  gave  Tommy 

a  gold  star  on  that  one. 

CDR  Except  I  think  he  and  Rita  got  in  -  in  cahoots. 

CC  A  little  soon  for  supper,  huh? 

CDR  Yes.    We  just  finished  lunch,  and  it's  about  time 

to  eat  again. 

CC  That's  known  as  the  simiilator  step-ahead. 


Tape  U5/6 


LMP  Can  you  give  us  our  distance  from  the  Moon  -  from 

the  Earth? 

CC  Roger,     Stand  by  on  that. 

LMP  Are  we  about  5OOO  miles  closer  now? 

CC  Don't  you  wish. 

LMP  Well,  isn't  that  what  -  isn't  that  the  way  these 

step-aheads  work? 

02  17  16  58    CC  Normally,  yes.     But  this  one  didn't  work  that  way. 

Jack,  you're  at  183,000  miles.  It's  really  amazing 
how  time  flies  when  you're  interested  in  your  work, 
isn't  it? 

02  17  18  36    CC  Jack,  Houston.     Did  you  read  your  -  my  last  call 

with  the  distance? 

02  17  2h  32    CDR  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead,  17. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob,  we're  getting  ready  for  the  ALFMED.  I 

just  took  a  red-filter  and  a  blue-filter  pictures, 
-  On  frame  kl  now,  with  a  35-millimeter  -  pictures 
of  the  Earth.    And  I  took  them  one  stop  smaller  - 
that  is,  more  open  -  than  the  lightmeter  said, 
hoping  to  compensate  for  the  small  Earth.  The 
Earth  just  barely  fills  the  most  inner  -  the 
innermost  circle  of  the  spotmeter.    Also,  there's 
a  very  strong  band  of  clouds,  shaped  sort  of  like 
a  narrow  fir  tree,  with  a  base  about  20  degrees  of 
longitude  west  of  Baja  California,  that  extends 
up,  I  believe,  into  the  vicinity  of  Hawaii.  And 
the  top  terminates  in  a  very  strong  northern  cyclone 
pattern. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Was  your  magazine  Sierra  Sierra? 

LMP  That's  affirm.     Sierra  Sierra. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    And  you  say  that  cloud  is  right  - 

that  cloud  area  is  right  near  Baja  California? 
I've  got  a  picture  of  it  here  in  front  of  me,  from 
one  of  the  satellites. 


Tape  1+5/T 


LMP  No,  it's  about  20  degrees  west  -  longitude  degrees 

west  of  that. 

CC  Yes.     Okay,  we've  got  it  on  the  spot  here. 

02  17  26  13    LMP  And  maybe  even  more  than  that.    Okay,  maybe  even 

more  than  that .     It ' s  -  it  might  be  as  much  as 
kO  degrees  west ,  and  -  Actually  Hawaii  may  be  on 
the  west  side  of  that.     It's  a  little  hard  to  tell. 
It's  close  enough  to  the  LM  that  it's  hard  to  say. 

CC  Roger,  Jack,     I  think  I've  got  it  on  our  map  here. 

It  shows  a  pretty  heavy  dense  cloud  area  right  . 
down  in  that  area  you're  talking  about. 

02  17  27  26    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     For  the  ALFMED,  CDR  will  be  in  the  left 

seat.    CMP  will  be  in  the  center  seat  with  the 
ALFMED.    For  our  reporting,  when  we  get  the  VOX, 
we'll  just  call  out  our  first  names  to  shorten  it 
and  the  comments  following.     And  Jack  will  be 
recording. 

02  17  27  h9    CC  Roger.    We'll  be  listening. 

02  17  31  00    CMP  Okay,  wait  a  minute.    Houston,  how  do  you  read  on 

VOX  with  the  lightweight  headset? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Yes.     Walt  a  minute.     Let  me  get  this  little  old 

box  set  to  go  here,  first. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Yes. 

02  17  32  09    CMP  Okay,  UTILITY  POWER  is  OFF. 

SC  Yes.     POWER  switch  is  OFF.     Okay,  it's  connected, 

now. 

02  17  32  33    CMP  Okay,  UTILITY  POWER  is  ON.     Okay,  let  me  get  strapped 

in  here,  somehow,  or  I'll  float  all  over. 


CMP 


(Music)  Okay,  let's  see. 


Tape 

CMP  Uh  huh,  I  think  I  can. 

02  IT  35  02    CMP  Okay,  my  hlindfold's  going  on,  now. 


CMP 


SC 


CMP 


CC 
CDR 


CMP 
CDR 

CC 


CMP 


Okay.     Sounds  like  they  clipped.     Okay,  somebody 
will  have  to  help  me  put  this  thing  on  now;  yes, 
Just  kind  of  like  so;  yes.     It  goes  around  the 
old  -  - 

Yes,  but  you  ought  to  . . .  kind  of  maintain  your 
head  in  the  same  position,  if  you  can. 


CMP  ...  to  operate  now? 

02  IT  3T  57    SC  No,  Just  turn  it  down  a  little  bit. 


Go  to  operate  while  you're  taking  the  pictures 
there  ( chuckle ) . 


CDR  Hello,  Houston.     CDR  put  his  blindfold  on  at  68:18. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that. 

02  IT  39  12    CDR  And  how  do  you  read  me  in  VOX,  Bob?    This  is  Gene. 

Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Gene. 


Okay,  I'm  conducting  the  experiment.    And  the  - 
frame  Sierra  Sierra  is  now  at  ^5.     I  got  two  shots. 
One  -  two  from  the  side  and  two  from  the  bottom. 


CC  Roger.  Copy. 


Hey,  looks  like  a  countdown  for  ready  to  go,  Jack? 

Hey,  Bob,  does  it  make  any  difference  if  your  eyes 
are  opened  or  closed? 

(Chuckle)  It  may  be  a  personal  thing.  Gene.    I  - 
This  is  Stu.     I  had  to  have  my  eyes  closed  but 
give  it  either  way. 


CDR  Okay;  thank  you. 


Okay,  we'll  count  down  to  start.    3,  2,  1  - 


02  IT  kO  28    CMP  MARK  it.    It's  buzzing. 


Tape  U5/9 


02  IT  ^0  52  CDR 
SC 

02  17  45  35  CDR 
CMP 

02  17  h6  08  CDR 


02  17  U7  03  CDR 


02  17  48  50  CDR 
02  17  50  GO  CDR 


02  17  50  h6  CDR 

CDR 

SC 

CDR 


Yes. 


Change  it.     The  other  side  is  not  very  good. 
. . .  two . 

MARK.    Gene.     I've  got  a  series  of  random  lines, 
which  do  not  appear  to  be  the  width  of  my  field  of 
view,  that  are  moving  like  a  flashing  horizon  with 
thunderstorms  on  the  horizon.     They're  dimly 
flashing,  and  they're  moving  across  the  eye  from 
left  to  right  and  from  top  to  "bottom,  individually. 
Both  eyes.     It's  stopped  now. 

MARK,  this  is  G-ene  again.     Going  from  the  upper 
left  to  the  bottom  right.    Lines  of  the  same  sort 
of  thing.    Dimly  lit  flashing  horizon-type  flashes. 
But  they're  linear.     They're  linear,  and  they  tend 
to  come  from  the  -  either  the  upper  left  or  the 
upper  right  and  work  their  way  downward.  Now 
they've  stopped.     Both  eyes. 

MARK.     Gene  again.     Both  eyes.     This  time  the  same 
flashes  on  the  horizon,  but  they  don't  seem  to  be 
moving  out  of  both  eyes.     Tend  to  be  up  at  the  tops 
of  both  eyes.     Just  rapid,  sequential,  lightninglike 
flashes.     And  they've  stopped. 

MARK.     Gene  again.     Similar  type  of  flashes.  They 
don't  seem  to  be  moving,  but  they're  coming  from 
the  right  of  the  right  eye  and  from  the  upper  left 
of  the  right  eye.    And  I  can  actually  see  an  out- 
line of  a  -  of  a  curved  horizon,  and  the  flashes 
are  coming  out  from  behind  it.    They've  stopped. 

MARK.     Gene  again.     I  see  -  peripherally  out  of  my 
right  eye  -  I  cannot  see  these  flashes  -  but  I  cein 
see  peripherally  the  right-hand  and  upper-right- 
hand  side  of  my  right  eye  being  lit  up. 

Pardon? 


This  last  one?    They  were  peripherally.     I  couldn't 
see  them.    All  I  know  is  that  there  was  some  light 
out  -  peripherally  out  -  yes,  but  a  flashing  glow. 


Tape  U5/IO 

02  17  52  08    CDR  Oh,  msm,  there  is  a  good  one.     The  left  eye,  right 

in  the  middle,  it's  -  almost  a  purple  flash.  It's 
still  going.     Right  in  the  middle  of  ray  eye,  and 
it's  coming  out  frcm  behind  a  -  a  horizon  that  is 
almost  -  It  starts  out  as  a  semicircle  and  then 
folds  into  a  point  like  on  a  pencil.    And  then  it 
disappears.    That's  the  horizon,  and  the  light  is 
flashing  from  behind  it.     It's  gone. 

02  IT  53  31    CC  Hey,  Gene,  Houston, 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    According  to  all  our  experts  here,  the 

phenomena  you're  describing  is  pretty  much  the 
phosphene  effect  -  sort  of  like  when  you  rub  your 
eyes  or  squint  your  eyes  too  hard  -  because  the 
effect  is  lasting  too  long.    The  streaks  or  the 
flashing  that  we're  looking  for  are  very  fast,  and 
they  do  not  remain  as  a  scene  to  your  eye.    And  I 
guess  the  only  thing  we  could  say  would  be  to 
maybe  either  relax  your  squint  a  little  bit  or 
to  ...  the  blindfold' s  on  exceptionally  tight. 
I  know  this  sounds  kind  of  screwy,  but  those  are 
the  words  that  we  would  like  to  -  like  to  say  to 
you.     But  the  actual  phenomena  we're  looking  for 
will  be  a  very  short-lived  phenomena.     It  will 
either  be  a  flash  or  a  very  fast  streak.  Some- 
thing along  this  -  We're  not  trying  to  load  the 
data,  but  we  feel  you're  describing  a  different 
phenomena. 

02  17  55  20    CDR  Stu,  we  lost  all  that  last  conversation.  You 

better  repeat  it, 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     Sorry  about  that,  and  here  I  thought 

I  had  waxed  so  eloquently.     But  the  -  the  effect 
you're  describing  is  an  effect  that  can  come  from 
rubbing  yoTor  eyes  or  perhaps  squinting  too  hard. 
But  the  effect  we're  looking  for  -  and  I  guess 
we're  really  not  trying  to  load  the  data  -  but  the 
effect  that  we're  looking  for  is  a  very  short-lived 
phenomena  and  would  not  -  - 


02  17  55  50  CMP 


MARK.  Ron.  I  got  one.  In  the  right  eye.  Coming 
from  -  back  -  going  towards  . . .  Very  narrow  streak. 


Tape  k3/ll 


CC  And,  Gene,  oior  only  words  of  wisdom  are  try  to 

relax  the  -  the  eyes  a  little  bit  or  if  you  have 
the  blindfold  on  exceptionally  tight,  you  might 
work  on  that.     But  the  -  just  -  I  guess  sort  of 
relax  and  see  if  we  can  see  the  other  -  the  other 
phenomena. 

02  17  56  28    CDR  Okay. 

02  IT  59  26    CMP  MARK,  Ron.    One  about  12:00  in  the  right  eye; 

looked  like  it  was  Just  a  spot. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  1+6/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


02  l8  02  1+3    CMP  About  15  seconds  ago.    It's  so  dim  I  hardly  noticed 

what  it  was ,  but  kind  of  starting  in  the  left  eye 
and  then  -  just  a  flash  in  the  left  eye  and  then 
a  flash  in  the  right  eye;  very  dim.    Going  left  - 
from  left  to  right. 

02  18  Ol+  38    CMP  MARK.    Can't  tell  if  it's  right  or  left  eye.  Looks 

like  it's  almost  between  the  two  eyes.    There's  a  - 

02  18  OU  1+7    CMP  MARK.     One  in  the  left  eye.     Just  about  right  in  the 

center.    Spot;  no  streak  or  anything.  Just  a  spot. 
First  spot  seemed  to  be  right  between  the  two  eyes, 
upper  half  of  the  field  of  view. 

02  l8  08  1+3    CDR  MARK;  Gene.     Streak  from  the  upper  right,  of  the 

right  eye,  down  to  about  the  middle. 

02  l8  10  2l+    CMP  MARK;  Ron.    About  8  o'clock  ...  diameter  out,  just 

a  bright  flash;  it's  the  brightest  flash  I've  seen 
yet .     Left  eye . 

02  18  10  1+5    CDR  Just  about  a  second  or  two  after  Ron  said  "Mark," 

I  saw  a  vertical  bright  line  in  the  left  side  of  the 
left  eye;  just  flashed. 

02  l8  11  36    CMP  It  was  the  greatest  intensity  -  the  intensity  on 

that  last  one  I  had  -  but  -  the  brightness  was 
there ,  but  it  was  kind  of  dull  glow  to  it .  It 
wasn't  a  -  a  spot  that  you  could  really  focus  on. 

02  18  13  22    CMP  MARK;  Ron.    Left  eye,  about  09:30,  half  way  -  - 

02  18  13  29    CDR  MARK  -  - 

CMP   to  the  left. 

CDR  -  -  Gene.     Left  eye,  very  bright  spot;  left  eye, 

left  side  about  halfway  in  towards  the  middle. 
TSi&t  was  the  brightest  one  I've  seen,  and  it  was 
Just  a  spot. 


CMP 


Ron.     The  intensity  of  the  last  one  I  had  was  - 
oh,  a  foijrth  of  the  bright  one  I  had  before  that. 


Tape  1+6/2 


CMP  Spot.     Yes,  on  the  left  eye. 

02  18  15  08    CMP  MARK  about  5  seconds  ago,  about  6  o'clock  in  the 

right  eye. 

02  18  15  15    CMP  MARK.    Right  between  the  two  eyes,  seemed  like. 

Both  spots . 

02  18  15  27    CDR  MARK;  Gene.    A  sharp  line  from  the  center  of  the 

left  eye  to  the  upper  left-hand  -  upper  left-hand 
side. 

02  18  16  kl    CDR  MARK;  Gene.     It's  a  very  short  -  very  short  line, 

upper  left  hand  of  left  eye  going  towards  the  right . 

02  18  17  32    CDR  MARK;  Gene.     Upper  right  eye,  tangential  to  my 

eye,  just  a  very  short  line.    Moving  -  - 

02  18  17         CMP  MARK;  Ron.    Oh,  a  fourth  of  a  diameter  out  in  the 

right  eye.     Bright  spot.     Seemed  like  it  was  coming 
in.     I  could  see  the  spot  and  then  the  streak.  It 
went  from  that  point  kind  of  in  -  or  up,  I  guess. 

02  18  19  53    CDR  MARK;  Gene.     A  dull  flash  on  the  bottom  inside 

corner  of  the  right  eye.     Correction  -  - 

02  18  20  02    CMP  MARK;  Ron.     Go  ahead.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay.     Correction,  Gene.     That  was  on  the  left 

eye,  that  last  one. 

02  18  20  11    CMP  The  last  one  for  Ron  was  at  10  o'clock.  Three- 

fourths  of  the  diameter  out.     Just  a  -  ...  was 
only  about  an  eighth  of  an  inch  in  diameter. 
Right  eye. 

02  18  23  Ok    CDR  MARK;  Gene. 

02  18  23  06    CDR  MARK  again.     A  flash  -  first  flash  was  in  the  left 

eye  on  the  left  side.     It  went  vertal  -  vertically 
up  and  away.     And  following  that  was  a  flash  in 
the  identically  same  spot.    It  was  a  line  flash, 
up  and  away.     On  the  left  side  of  each  eye,  and  it 
went  up  in  both  cases,  but  they  were  split  by 
about  2  seconds. 


Tape  i+6/3 


02  18  28  1*0    CMP  MARK;  Ron.    A  fourth  of  the  diameter  out  at 

3  o'clock  in  the  right  eye.     I  mean  a  half  a 
diameter  -  half  a  radius;  put  it  that  way. 

02  18  28  51    CDR  MARK;  Gene.     A  flash  across  the  bottom  of  the  right 

eye  coming  inward  from  left  to  right. 

CMP  On  the  last  one,  it  looked  like  it  was  a  -  - 

02  18  29  15    CDR  MARK;  Gene.    Just  a  spot  flash  in  the  bottom  of 

the  left  eye. 

CMP  This  is  Ron.     On  my  last  one,  it  was  just  a  spot 

flash.     No  direction  to  it  at  all. 

02  18  29  57    CMP  Ron;  MARK,     MARK;  this  is  Ron.    When  I  first  said 

the  word  -  it  kind  of  looks  like  a  -  almost  a  sine 
wave  transition  from  the  corner  upper  at  10  o'clock 
in  the  right  eye  to  about  2  o'clock  in  the  left 
eye.    Right  between  the  two  of  them.     The  sin 
wave  was  -  maybe  two  wiggles  in  it,  and  it  was 
about  a  fourth  of  an  inch  long.     Going  from  right 
to  left,  yes.    And  going  into  the  left  at  about 
2  o'clock. 

CDR  Turn  that  music  higher. 

CMP  Yes. 

02  18  31  20    CMP  MARK;  Ron.    Seems  like  I  looked  up,  and  as  I  looked 

•  up,  there  was  one  in  the  left  eye  about  12  o'clock 
just  a  flash.     On  the  outer  periphery. 

02  18  38  01    CMP  MARK;  Ron.     ...  down  about  06:30;  Just  a  flash. 

Right  eye. 

02  18  38  k2    CMP  MARK;  Ron.     Left  eye,  about  03:30,  three-quarters 

of  the  radius  out.    A  very  dim  flash.    About  03:30. 

02  18  39  hh    CMP  MARK;  Ron.     Left  eye.     Starting  at  5  o'clock  on 

the  circumference  going  to  3  o'clock  at  about 
three-quarter  diameter  -  three-quarter  radius,  X 
mean.    Just  a  straight  line. 

CMP  Did  I  say  left  eye?    I  guess  I  meant  did.  Okay, 

let ' s  -  Okay ,  the  motor  quit . 


Tape  hG/k 

02  18  Ul  11    CDR  Okay.     Is  that  it?    Yes,  I  can  get  that.  Gene, 

CMP  Okay,  you  want  to  take  a  picture  of  it  first? 

Okay,  POWER  ...     Okay,  stand  by.     3,  2,  1  - 

02  18  itl  59     CMP  MARK  it.     POWER  switch  OFF. 

CDR  Say,  Bob  or  Stu. 

CC  Roger-     Go  ahead. 

02  iB  U2  3h    CDR  Okay,  add  -  to  ad  to  today.    Not  last  night,  but  - 

I  guess  the  first  night  I  was  in  bed  -  I  definitely 
saw  some  of  these  -  because  I  had  a  hard  time  going 
to  bed,  to  start  with  -  I  saw  some  of  the  same 
peripheral  horizon-type  things  you  said  were  not 
the  type  of  data  you  were  looking  for;  but  I  also 
saw  a  -  some  sets  of  the  streaks.    And  probably 
the  one  most  imposing  thing  I  remember  is  -  and  the 
last  one  I  remember  before  falling  asleep  -  was 
the  fact  that  there  was  a  very  bright  spot  that 
flashed  right  between  my  eyes  like  a  very  bright 
headlight  -  like  a  train  coming  at  you,  only  with 
a  flash.     It's  difficult  probably  to  estimate  the 
frequency  of  any  of  those  because  I  was  in  a  - 
sort  of  a  sleep-hazy  mode. 

CC  Roger, 

CDR  But  then,  as  today,  I  saw  some  that  flashed  and 

lit  up  the  horizon  and  some  that  lit  up  peripher- 
ally; and  I  guess,  as  you  say,  that's  a  different 
kind  of  data,  but  I  did  see  them  there  and  they 
impressed  me. 

CC  Okay.     We  got  all  that.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay. 


CMP 


CC 


And  it  might  be  interesting  to  know  I've  never 
seen  it  before  today. 

Hey,  Gene,  we  appreciate  all  the  data.  We  were 
just  trying  to  make  the  data  fit  the  curve;  you 
know  the  old  trick. 


Tape  1+6/5 


02  18  hk  kO    CDR  Okay,  I  just  wanted  you  to  -  Just  told  them  like 

we  saw  them.    That's  all. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  I  will  say  one  thing,  though;  no  question  in  my 

mind  but  that  they're  there.     Last  trip  I  took, 
I  guess  I  just  wasn't  looking  for  them  or  paying 
any  attention  to  them.    Maybe  they  were  there  and 
I  ignored  them  because  of  other  things.    But  they're 
there . 

LMP  Okay,  all  you  flash  bugs  down  there  -  or  flash- 

bulbs I  guess  is  the  word  -  frame  50.     I  Just  took 
four  pictures  to  show  -  two  on  the  side  and  two 
on  the  bottom  -  to  show  the  position  of  the  ALFMED , 
and  one  of  them  of  each  set  was  focused  on  the 
ALFMED.    The  others  were  focused  on  the  -  the 
other  set  was  focused  on  the  struts. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And  when  you  don't  have  anything  else  to  do,  why 

don't  you  have  somebody  predict  where  the  S-IVB 
is.     I  think  I've  got  her  spotted  -  behind  us  and 
above  us  with  respect  to  the  Earth  and  our  travel 
from  it . 

CC  FIDO  just  went  out  and  shot  himself,  but  we'll 

get  working  on  it. 

LMP  Oh,  don't  worry  about  it.     Shoot.     I  thought  you 

guys  might  have  an  idea  off-the-cuff  there. 

CC  No,  what's  humorous  on  this.  Jack,  is  they  have 

really  been  working  on  that  S-IVB  impact  point  - , 
and  they've  really  been  -  it's  been  a  -  a  real 
difficult  problem  for  them  so  far. 

LMP  I'll  tell  you,  I  bet  you  Ron  could  give  a  star 

sighting  on  it  (laughter).     I  looked  at  it  throtigh 
the  monocular  and  sure  looks  like  the  S-IVB. 

CC  Jack,  we're  not  doubting  you  at  all.     We  coiild 

probably  start  cranking  it  right  now. 


Tape  1+6/6 

02  18  U6  h6    CC  Jack,  are  you  sto  -  you  all  stowing  the  ALFMED 

now  or  are  you  done? 

CMP  What's  that,  Bot? 

CC  Are  you  all  done  with  the  ALFMED  now,  Ron? 


CMP 


Yes,  I've  got  to  get  it  to  -  get  the  plate  moved 
back  down  there  yet. 


CC  Okay,  Ron   

CMP  . . .  get  the  blindfold  off  first  so  I  can  see  what 

I'm  doing. 

CC  Roger.     I  just  want  you  to  know.     We've  got  a  real 

long  update  coming  up  to  you  here  on  the  LOI  abort 
charts  and  that  -  and  it's  going  to  be,  probably, 
a  difficult  readup.     And  you're  the  most  familiar 
with  the  charts ;  you  probably  would  want  to  take 
them.     But  whenever  you  want  to  take  them,  they 
are  on  -  charts  on  page  3-8l,  3-82,  and  then  the 
cue  card  for  LOI  limits.    Whenever  you  want  to 
take  them.     It  will  be  a  lengthy  one. 

CMP  Stand  by.  Bob.     Let  us  get  squared  away  from  the 

ALFMED;  then  we  can  get  going  on  that. 

No,  I  don't  want  to  hurry  you,  Ron.     I  just  want 
you  to  know  what  -  when  -  just  get  yourself  com- 
fortable and  be  ready  to  take  them  whenever  you 
want  them.     It's  going  to  be  a  lengthy  time, 
though . 


02  18  kl  31    CMP  Okay. 


CDR  Hey,  Bob,  I'm  looking  at  what  -  what  Jack  was 

talking  about ;  and  it ' s  definitely  not  a  particle 
that's  nearby  because  there  is  another  one  I  can 
look  at  and  get  a  three-dimensional  comparison 
with.     It  is  a  -  It  is  a  bright  object,  and  it's 
obviously  rotating  because  it's  flashing.  It's 
way  out  in  the  distance,  as  I  say,  because  there 
are  particles  that  are  close  by  and  it's  obviously 
not  one  of  those.     It's  apparently  rotating  in  a 


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very  rhythmic  fashion  because  the  flashes  come 
around  almost  -  almost  on  time.  And  it's  as  we 
look  hack  at  the  Earth ,  it ' s  up  at  about  11 : 00 
about  -  oh,  maybe  10  or  12  Earth  diajneters.  I 
don't  know  whether  that  does  you  any  good,  but 
there  is  something  out  there, 

CC  Roger.    We  don't  doubt  it.  Gene.    And  ve  might 

work  out  a  set  of  gimbal  angles  or  something  here; 
maybe  we  can  get  a  look  at  it  through  the  optics. 

02  18  1+9  02    CDR  Okay.    And  I  -  I  -  I  just  want  to  emphasize  that. 

it's  definitely  not  -  not  one  of  these  particles 
that  tends  to  look  like  a  star  out  there.  It's 
something  physical  in  the  distance.  (Laughter) 
Oh,  yes. 

SC  ...  thing  off. 

02  18  50  13    CMP  Yes,  guess  I  am. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     If  you  can  call  up  a  NOUN  20  so  we 

know  the  spacecraft  attitude,  and  if  you  can 
reference  the  object  you're  looking  at  out  of  your 
window,  with  -  with  respect  to  body  axis  and  let 
us  look  at  your  -  your  -  give  us  a  mark,  somehow, 
and  give  us  your  NOUN  20s,  we  can  try  and  get  a 
tie-in  and  start  locating  -  locating  this  object 
down  for  you. 

02  18  50  58    CDR  Okay,  I'm  looking  it  out  -  looking  at  it  out  the 

center  window  -  the  hatch  window  -  and  I'll  give 
you  a  hack  when  it  crosses  the  XX  axis  at  the 
center  window;  and  I  guess  it's  up  maybe  1+5  degrees, 

CC  Okay,  give  us  a  hack  and  we're  copying  your 

NOUN  20s  right  now. 

CDR  Okay,  Jack  says  pitched  up  about  30  degrees  but  -  - 

LMP  No.     1+5  J  because  - 

CDR  Yes,  he  agrees.     It's  1+5  degrees  pitched  up,  and 

I'll  give  you  a  hack  when  it  crosses  the  XX  axis. 

CDR  Okay  - 


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02  18  51  32    CDR  MARK  it.     It  just  crossed  through  the   

CC  Mark.     We  got  it . 

CDR  -  -  let's  call  it  the  XZ  plane  of  the  spacecraft. 

One  unique  thing  ahout  it.  Bob,  is  that  it's  got 
two  flashes.    As  it  comes  around  in  -  in  rhythmic 
fashion,  you  get  a  very  bright  flash;  and  then 
you  get  a  dull  flash.    And  then  it'll  come  around 
with  a  bright  flash,  and  then  a  doill  flash. 

02  18  52  18    LMP  That's  the  side  and  -  of  the  S-IVB  -  and  then  the 

engine  bell.  Gene. 

LMP  The  commander  doesn't  think  that  I  can  see  the 

engine  bell  on  that  thing. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Is  that  with  the  monocular  you're 

looking  at  it? 

CDR  He  couldn't  see  the  engine  bell  if  he  had  10  monoc- 

ulars. 

CMP  Okay.     I've  got  the  cable  restowed  now. 

CC  Say  again,  Ron. 

02  18  53  10    CMP  And,  Gene,  where' s  your  blindfold?  ... 

02  18  55  2h    IMP  Bob,  couple  of  revolutions  ago  when  I  was  looking 

at  it ,  I  had  a  much  brighter  view  and  I  believe 
I  was  looking  at  it  broadside.     It  looks  to  me  like 
it  may  be  flashing  more  or  less  end-on  now.  It's 
much,  not  -  not  as  bright,  although  it's  getting 
brighter.    But  it's  not  as  bright  now  as  it  was 
awhile  ago. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  ...  we've  been  noticing  that,  I  think,  for  about 

2k  hours  or  so.  I  just  -  hadn't  put  it  together 
as  maybe  being  the  S-IVB.  I  thought  it  was  just 
some  other  particle  out  there. 


02  18  56  27  CC 
CDR 


Roger,  Jack. 


Hey,  Robert,  what's  the  final  Cowboy  score? 


Tape 


CC  Okay;  I  vreis  just  going  to  update  that.    The  Cowboys 

won  it  3^  to  2k.    And  by  winning  it,  they  wrap  up 
the  wild-card  slot  in  the  NFC  i  and  so  both  Wash- 
ington and  Dallas  will  be  in  the  playoffs. 

02  18  56  53    CDR  Sounds  good. 

IMP  Bob,  that  line  of  clouds  I  called  a  fir-tree  pat- 

tern that  swings  up  towards  Hawaii  -  Hawaii,  if 
you  will  -  has  -  also  has  a  mushroom  pattern  on 
the  top.     It  has  the  appearance  as  if  tvo  major 
air  masses  -  one  going  from  west  to  east  and  the 
other  form  east  to  west  -  have  converged  along 
that  line,  and  the  Joint  movement  of  air  at  the 
interface  being  south  to  north.    And  up  in  the 
area  of  Hawaii,  I  think,  it  tends  to  mushroom  so 
that  the  pattern  then  goes  back  to  flow  from  west 
to  east  on  the  east  side  and  from  east  to  west  on 
the  west  side. 

CC  Roger. 

02  18  58  27    LMP  In  a  little  while,  we'll  probably  get  a  pretty 

good  look  at  a  -  what  looks  like  a  very  concen- 
trated intense  storm  that,  I  think,  is  jxist  -  east  • 

CMP  ***  And  then  we'll  put  them,  once  we  get  updated  a 

little  bit.     Yes,  I'll  get  out  of  VOX  in  a  minute. 

LMP  I  was  looking  for  the  Flight  Plan  and  stuff.  And 

the  little  books. 

LMP  Say,  Bob. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  Houston,  17.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack.     Read  you  loud  and  clear. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  you  want  to  update  the  LOI  card  and 

Flight  Plan  3-82  and  3-8l;  is  that  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative- 

CDR  Which  one  do  you  want  to  start  on? 


I  woiild  say  3-8l  is  the  most  difficult  one  to 
stEirt  on. 

Okay,  in  that  case,  why  don't  you  start  on  the 
board  -  on  the  cue  card? 

Okay.    We  can  start  on  the  cue  card.  Your  -  your 
druthers. 

Yes,  go  aJiead.     I'm  ready. 

Okay,  on  the  LOI  limits.    The  VGO  column  -  let's 
go  right  down  the  VGO  column;  I  think  that  would 
be  the  easiest  way  to  do  it.    Where  it  says, 
"VGO  2980,"  change  that  to  "2986." 

Why  don't  you  Just  keep  going? 

Okay.     The  next  one  going  straight  down  the  line, 
"2T21,  2521,  and  23l6."    That's,  all  the  changes 
on  the  VGO  line. 

Okay;  and  all  those  changes  were  in  Mode  I? 

That ' s  affirmative . 

Okay,  I  got  2986,  2721,  2521,  2316. 

Roger.    Now  under  the  burn  time  column,  the  first 
one  opposite  the  2986,  the  burn  time  remains  the 
same.     Do  not  change  that  one.     The  next  one 
changes  - 

Go  ahead. 

Zero  plus  kO. 

Which  one  is  that,  Bob?     I  missed  you. 

Okay.    Where  it  says,  "0  plus  28,"  change  that 
to  "0  plus  1+0." 

Okay,  press  on  through  them  all  now. 

Change  the  "O  plus  53"  one  to  "l  plus  10."  Change 
the  "1  plus  31"  to  the  number  "l  plus  kO" .  Over. 


Tape  U6/11 


CDE  Okay.     I  got  -  in  order  -  "bxirn  time  0,  and  then 

0  plus  UO,  1  plus  10,  and  1  plus  UO. 

CC  Roger.  V-measured  column:    the  first  one,  the  zero 

does  not  change.    The  next  one  -  in  this  order: 
"265,  and  670."  Over. 

CDR  Okay.     I  got  0,  265,  U65,  and  67O. 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Gene.    That's  the  changes  to 

the  LOI  limits  cue  card. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  I  think  we  got  all  that.     I  guess 

DELTA-V  measured  down  there  in  the  bottom  -  298O  - 
should  be  2986,  huh? 

CC  Roger.    We  felt  that  wasn't  -  that  -  that  is  - 

correct.    To  be  technically  correct,  it  should  be 
29  86  at  that  last  one . 

CDR  Okay,  I  guess  we're  coming  in  just  a  sukosh  hotter, 

huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CC  You'll  see  from  the  curves  that  we're  going  to 

have  to  update,  that  you're  a  lot  closer  to  the 
free-return  trajectory. 

02  19  06  17    CDR  Okay,  why  don't  you  go  ahead  on  3-8l? 

CC             Okay,  this  is  the  tough  one.     The  first  thing  we're 
going  to  do  is  plot  a  couple  or  three  points  here 
in  the  Mode  I  -  2-hour  -  the  Mode  I  2-hour  line 
changes,  also.    So  you  might  want  to  draw  a  line 
at  a  LOI  DELTA-V  DVM  of  265,  265  and  draw  that 
straight  up  the  curve.    That'll  be  the  no  -  the 
new  

CDR  Okay,  the  LOI  DELTA-V  magnitude  of  -  DVM  of  265, 

huh? 


02  19  07  01  CC 


Roger.  That  will  be  the  crossover  point  from  the 
Mode  I  2-hour  to  the  Mode  I  30-minute. 


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Bob,  are  you  there? 

That's  affirmative.    Go  ahead. 

Okay,  BoTd,  I've  got  a  -  265  verticea  line  drawn 
and  I  expect  I  cm  extend  the  Mode  I  2-hour  abort 
to  that  limit. 

That  is  affirmative,  Gene. 

Now  you're  going  to  have  a  new  curve,  so  don't 
bother  to  draw  in  the  old  curve.    We're  going  to 
give  you  three  points  to  plot  and  draw  a  straight 
line  in  between  them  that  will  create  a  new  curve. 

Go  ahead. 

Okay.    The  first  one  is  at  -  the  point  is  defined 

with  a  DELTA-VM  of  zero  and  an  abort  DELTA-V  of 
1525,  1525. 

Okay. 

Okay ,  the  second  point  is  defined  by  a  DELTA-VM 
of  150;  an  abort  DELTA-V  of  l8lO.  Over. 

Bob,  that  last  was  l8lO? 

That's  affirmative. 

Okay.    I  got  it. 

Okay,  and  the  last  point  is  defined  by  DELTA-VM 
of  265;  an  abort  DELTA-V  of  2105. 

The  curve  -  - 


  defined  by  those  three  points  will  be  your 

LO  -  LCI  plus  2-hour  abort  DELTA-V. 

Okay,  and  that  -  that  last  point  is  just  the  DPS 
available  curve  with  265. 

That's  affirmative. 


Tape  1*6/13 


cm  Okay,  it's  drawn  in  and  I  

CC  Okay,  now  we  got  a  curve  1. 

CDR   guess  at  2,    Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  I'm  sorry  I  cut  you  out.    Did  you  have  something 

else  you  want  on  that? 

CDR  No,  it's  good.    Our  curve's  in. 

CC  Okay.     Curve  1  is  two  points  defining  it.  The 

first  one  is  DELTA-VM  of  265,  abort  DELTA-V  of  1855- 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  And  the  second  one  is  a  DELTA  -  DELTA-VM  of  kOO, 

abort  DELTA-V  of  2065. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    Those  two  points  from  the  curve  1  of  the 

Mode  I  30-minute. 

CDR  Okay,  I  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  now  curve  2  has  three  points  defining  it. 

The  first  point  is  identical  with  the  end  point 
of  curve  1.     It's  ItOO  on  the  DELTA-VM  and  2065  on 
the  abort  DELTA-V. 

CDR  All  right. 

CC  Okay,  the  second  point  is  530  for  the  DVM  and  22U5 

for  the  abort  DELTA-V. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  And  the  last  point  is  DVM  of  67O  and  a  DELTA-V  - 

abort  DELTA-V  of  2U75. 

CDR  Okay. 


Tape  k6/lh 

02  19  ih  k9    CC  Okay;  and  if  you  draw  a  line  up  the  page  at  the 

DVM  of  670,  that  is  the  end  of  the  Mode  I  30-minute 
and  everything  to  the  right  of  that  you  are  in 
Mode  II. 

CC  Gene,  Houston. 

CDR  Stand  by.  Bob. 

02  19  16  05    CC  Roger. 

02  19  20  lit    CDR  Hello,  Houston.    Are  you  reading  yet? 

CC  Roger.    Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  curve  looks  good.     I  just  checked  the 

DPS/APS  crossover  on  the  DPS  available,  and  it 
comes  out  with  what  you  gave  me  on  the  card  - 
about  2521. 

CC  Roger.    And  just  one  minor  point.    Across  the  top, 

on  the  velocity  to  be  gained,  you  can  bias  all 
those  numbers  -  add  a  six  to  every  one  of  them 
across  the  top,  to  be  technically  correct. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  The  next  thing  we  have  on  that.  Gene  -  - 

CDR  . . .  correct ,  I  could  have  done  that  before  I  - 

before  I  plotted  the  curve;  but  that's  good.  We 
understand,  and  we  got  it  down. 

CC  Okay.    The  next  thing  I've  got  is  -  that  whole 

update  column  in  the  little  block  there  is  all 
updated;  and  we  probably  ought  to  get  a  readback 
on  all  these  numbers.  Gene.     I  can  give  it  to  you 
right  like  a  regular  pad,  just  from  the  -  right 
down  from  the  top  to  the  bottom,  and  then  read  it 
back  to  me.     I  think  that'll  be  the  best  way, 
don't  you? 


CDR 
CC 


Okay.  Ron's  going  to  go  ahead  and  take  them;  and 
we'll  doublecheck  them,  and  he'll  read  them  back. 


Okay. 


Tape  1*6/15 


CMP  Okay,  just  go  ahead  suid  start  at  the  top  and  go 

down. 

CC  Okay.    I'm  starting  at  LOI  ignition  time. 

88:51+: 26. 8.    Pitch  is  minus  1*3,  yaw  112.    GET  atort 
ignition,  89:2l*:26.8;  roll  217,  pitch  6,  yaw  25. 
Minus  h2  on  the  Pitch,  110  on  the  yaw.    2l6,  6,  18. 
High-gain  angles  again.    Minus  75,  Yaw  250;  GET 
abort  ignition  there  90:5l*:26.8;  153,  17,  19. 
Next  time  there  is  GET  abort  ignition  for  the  LM 
FDAI  angles  there  -  90:5l*:26.8;  Roll,  Pitch,  and 
Yaw  angles,  202,  29,  330.  Over. 

CMP  Okay,  Boh,  here  we  go  on  the  readback.    I'll  Just 

read  them  rigtit  down  the  line.  88:51*526.6; 
minus  1*3,  112,  89:2l*:26.8;  217,  6,  25;  minus  1*2, 
110;  216,  6,  18;  minus  75,  250;  90:5l+:26.8; 
153,  17,  19,  90:5l*:26.8;  202,  29,  330.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    A  real  good  readback.     The  -  on  the 

next  page,  on  page  3-82,  the  data  there  is  exactly 
the  same  as  the  LOI  limit  cue  card  -  the  changes. 
We  can  read  it  up  to  you  individually  or  you  can 
take  it  from  yoiir  cue  cards;  your  choice. 

02  19  25  00    CMP  No,  we'll  change  it  from  the  cue  card. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  Bot,  since  they  won't  let  me  write  anything,  I 

tried  looking  for  the  Moon  near  the  Sun  with  the 
filters  and  could  not  see  it. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  You  sure  you're  sending  us  to  the  right  place? 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    Hey,  I've  got  some  information  on 

that  S-IVB  that  you're  looking  at.    The  azimuth 
was  in  -  within  1  degree  of  what  you  called  when 
we  looked  -  checked  out  on  your  angles. 

CC  Hey,  Jack.  Houston. 

CC  17,  Houston. 


Tape  U6/16 


CMP  Go  ahead,  Bob. 

19  27  5h    CC  This  was  for  Jack  and  Gene.    The  trench  has 

computed  the  S-IVB  location  in  reference  to  yoiir 
hody  axis;  and  the  aziimith  was  within  1  degree, 
very  close,  and  the  -  we  calculate  it  should  have 
been  out  of  that  window  at  62  degrees  from  the 
X-axis,  and  you  reported        degrees,  which  is 
just  a  17-degree  error.    It's  real  close  there. 
You  know,  jiost  eyehalling  it  like  that. 

That's  great.    Then  that  is  the  S-IVB,  huh? 

Okay.    Well,  we  -  you  might  check  it  this  way. 
Jack.     Line  up  the  star  Denehola  and  Rigel  -  say 
again,  Regulus;  I'm  sorry,  Regulus  -  Denebola  and 
Regulus.    And  then,  on  that  line,  go  perpendicular 
to  that  line  right  above  Ri  -  ri^t  above  Regulus, 
and  that  should  be  the  S-IVB.     It  forms  one  point 
of  a  right  triangle  with  Denebola  and  Regulus. 

What  you're  saying  is,  it's  the  eye  of  Leo  the 
Lion. 

That's  firm. 

Except  we  can't  see  Leo  the  Lion  very  well. 
Okay. 

And,  17;  Houston. 
Go  ahead. 


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02  19  29  11  CC 
CC 
LMP 


CC  We've  got  a  rather  lengthy  Flight  Plan  update 

series  here.    We  can  read  up  to  you  any  time  you 
want.     Just  a  reminder  that  we  are  sitting  here 
waiting  with  it.    Your  call. 

LMP  Generally  what  is  it.  Bob? 

CC  It's  changing  a  number  of  attitudes  all  through 

the  Flight  Plan,  81^:32  -  81*: 35;  changing  VERB  h9 
maneuver,  things  like  that,  due  to  the  TLC  change 
here  on  times  and  that. 


Tape  1*6/17 


LMP  Okay,  where  axe  you  going  to  start? 

CC  Okay,  it's  at  8U:32.     Standby  1.     Jack,  FLIGHT 

Just  told  me  we  can  wait  on  this  if  you  want  until 
some  other  time  in  the  Flight  Plan.    We  want  to 
get  into  this  Experiment  Checklist  with  the  pa  - 
pan  camera,  mapping  camera  film  cycling.    Or  we 
can  do  both  of  them  concurrently. 

02  19  31  2h    CDR  Hey,  Bob,  let's  get  the  camera  cycling  out  of  the 

way  first,  and  then  we'll  pick  up  the  Flight  Plan 
updates . 

CC  Roger.    We  concur  with  that. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob,  I'll  get  to  that  camera  in  just  a 

second.     The  coast  of  Australia  is  starting  to 
come  into  view.    Still  looks  pretty  clear.  We'll 
give  you  more  on  that  later,  probably.  That 
cyclone  I  talked  about  yesterday  in  the  vicinity, 
I  believe,  of  the  Solomon  Islands,  looks  even 
better  organized  than  yesterday.    It's  really 
tightening  up.     Starting  to  look  very  bright  and 
dense  right  in  the  core,  not  too  dissimilar  from 
Therese.    Although  it  has  a  little  broader  extent 
in  the  southeast  quadrant. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

CC  Trying  to  match  that  up  in  ussy  prog  here.     I  can't 

find  it. 

LMP  Well,  you  didn't  have  it  there  yesterday  either. 

It  certainly  looks  like  a  tight  little  storm  now 
though. 

CC  Roger.    I  understand. 

CC  Jack,  would  you  mind  repeating  that  location  of 

that . 

LMP  Can't  give  you  much  on  the  progress  -  - 


Tape  U6/18 


LMP  Well,  I'll  try  to  give  it  to  you  a  little  "better 

later.    It's  the  one  I  was  talking  about  yesterday 
as  being  in  the  vicinity  of  the  Solomon  Islands. 
That's  somewhat  east-southeast  of  New  Guinea. 

CC  Yes.     Roger.     I've  got  it. 

IiMP  I  think  before  we  go  to  bed,  we'll  probably  be 

able  to  update  the  progress  of  the  -  that  front 
south  of  Australia,  also. 

CC  Oh.    Roger.    I've  -  I've  got  a  pretty  disorganized 

area  to  the  east  of  New  Guinea.    It's  probably 
right  over  the  Solomons.    Looks  pretty  disorganized 
on  our  satellite  photo  -  from,  let's  see,  I  guess 
that  was  this  morning  sometime. 

IMP  Well,  there  is  a  lot  of  cloudiness  in  the  equa- 

torial regions,  the  intertropical  convergence 
zone  in  there.    This  is  south  of  that,  sort  of 
on  a  -  I'll  talk  to  you  later. 


02  19  35  26    CC  Roger. 


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Tape  U7/I 

APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 


02 

19 

38 

2T 

LMP 

Houston,  how  do  you  read  IT? 

CC 

Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP 

Okay,  S-BAND  AUX  TV  to  SCIENCE. 

02 

19 

38 

ho 

LMP 

MAEK  it. 

T.MP 

OTcav     flM/Af!  POWER  t      rominff  ON. 

02 

19 

38 

59 

LMP 

MARK  it. 

LMP 

MAPPING  CAMERA  to  STANDBY. 

02 

19 

39 

13 

LMP 

MARK. 

02 

19 

39 

39 

LMP 

PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  POWER;  barber  pole  -  gray. 

02 

19 

39 

50 

LMP 

SELF  TEST  is  to  HEATERS. 

02 

19 

39 

58 

LMP 

And,  do  you  want  the  high  gain? 

CC 

That's  affirmative.    Minus  50  on  PITCH  and  2T0 

on  YAW. 

02 

19 

ho 

53 

LMP 

Okay,  there  she  is,  all  locked  up.     PCM  RATE'S 

goxng  n±un . 

CC 

Roger. 

LMP 

Okay.    When  you're  ready,  I'll  do  the  big  deal 

CC 

Roger.     Stand  by  for  my  cue  on  that.  Jack, 

CC 

Okay,  Jack;  ve're  ready. 

02 

19 

hi 

28 

LMP 

Okay,  MAPPING  CAMERA  -  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  OK. 

CC 

Roger.    We  mark  it. 

02  19 

hi 

1*1 

LMP 

Okay;  and  PAN  CAMERA  SELF  TEST  -  going  SELF  TE! 

Got  a  barber  pole. 

02 

19 

h2 

37 

LMP 

And  the  PAN  CAMERA  SELF  TEST  -  or  talkback  is 

Tape  1+7/2 


CC  Roger.    We'd  like  EEACQ  on  the  HIGH  GAIN.  Check. 

LMP  You  got  it. 

CC  Thank  you. 

LMP  Sorry,  I  didn't  read  the  checklist. 

02  19  k3  39    LMP  MAPPING  CAMERA,  is  OFF. 

CC  Jack,  say  your  last. 

LMP  MAPPING  CAMERA,  went  OFF  at  2  minutes ,  and  the  PAN 
CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF. 

CC  Roger.    And  ve'd  like  to  select  your  checklist 

angles  now  on  the  high  gain,  please. 

LMP  Oke^. 

LMP  Do  you  want  those  on  the  dial?    You  don't  want  me 

to  try  to  acq.uire  there ,  do  you? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

02  19  kk  38    LMP  Okay,  SM/AC  POWER  is  going  to  come  OFF  here,  now. 

CC  Roger. 

02  19  hh  50    CMP  Okay,  SM/AC  POWER  is  OFF;  and  how  is  my  ZPN  doing? 

CC  Jack,  say  again  your  question,  please. 

CMP  This  is  Ron.    How  is  my  ZPN  doing? 

CC  Oh.    Roger.    Let  me  take  a  look  here. 

CC  Hey,  Ron,  we  don't  -  we  don't  want  to  say  it's 

bad.  Taut  we're  glad  you're  talking  to  us  because 
we  want  to  make  sure  you're  with  us. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.     Let  me  ...  a  little  bit  then. 

CC  Roger.    We  think  we've  got  a  bad  skin  -  skin  sensor 

Interface  there,  Ron. 


Tape  kl/3 


02  19  kg  36    LMP  BoTd,  hov  do  you  read  17? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay;  that  storm  I'm  talking  about  -  a  little  more 

precisely  is  maybe  centered  at  2  degrees  latitude, 
north  of  the  Solomon  Islands. 

CO  Yes,  that  kind  of  matches  up.  Jack.     Does  it  look 

like  Hew  Guinea  and  that  is  pretty  well  clobbered? 

LMP  Ko,  not  really.    New  Guinea  is  at  the  western 

edge  of  a  cloud  zone  that  is  part  of  that  inter- 
tropical convergence  zone  that  starts  at  New  Guinea 
ajid  swings  east-northeast  in  an  arc  for  about  half 
the  visible  Pacific,  and  then  that  arc  crosses 
back  down  over  the  equator  and  heads  generally 
towards  Central  America,  I  suspect,  although  that's 
beyond  the  tertainator  now.    The  storm  I'm  talking 
about  is  clearly  south  and  separate  from  that  inter- 
tropical convergence  cloud  -  pattern. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  It's  getting  very  tightly  wound  in  the  -  the  clock- 

wise sense,  and  -  sind  is  -  is  just  where  there  was 
a  less  well-organized  pattern  yesterday.  Although 
maybe  it  *  s  moved  northward  a  little  bit . 

CC  Roger.     We  understand.  Jack. 

LMP  Our  zero-phase  point,  Bob,  is  about  10  degrees  - 

make  that  15  degrees  longitude  east  of  the  Solomons 
and  has  a  -  is  a  -  fairly  -  low  intensity  at  this 
time.     I'll  keep  an  eye  on  it  as  it  approaches  that 
storm  area  and  see  if  it  changes . 

LMP  Okay  -  I'll  be  ready  for  them.    Bob,  Just  one  last 

thing  on  that  line  of  clouds  that  stretches  up 
toward  Hawaii .    They ' re  very  -  they  look  very 
thick  and  dense  based  on  the  structure  you  can 
see  as  that  -  as  the  terminator  approaches  them. 
They  cast  a  pretty  strong  shadow  to  the  west . 

CC  Roger.     I  see  those  on  our  satellite  photo.  They 

look  pretty  -  pretty  thick  in  there.     I'm  strictly 
an  amateur  talking  to  you.  Jack,  but  it  looks 
pretty  thick  in  there. 


Tape  kf/h 


LMP  Yes,  right. 

LMP  How  about  some  flight  -  when  you  come  around  again, 

CEin  you  start  the  Flight  Plan  updates? 

CC  Any  time  you  want  them,  I  can  start  them. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  the  first  one  is  at  8U:32  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

LMP  8U:22,     Go  ahead. 

CC  8U:32.     32.    Add  the  following. 

LMP  Okay . 

CC  "Roll  right  12  degrees,"  in  parentheses,  "To  a 

roll  of  150."    The  piarpose  of  this  change  is  to 
avoid  -  - 

LMP  Say  Eigain  the  -  say  sigain  the  number  in  parentheses. 

CC  R,  roll  of  150,  150. 

LMP  Okay,  at  8U:32,  "Roll  right  12  degrees  to  roll  150." 

CC  Roger.    And  in  parentheses  here,  just  a  comment, 

it's  to  avoid  gimbal  lock  during  VERB  k9  maneuver 
directly  below  it. 

LMP  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    At  3h:35,  the  VERB  1+9  maneuver,  change  the 

attitude  to  "Roll  320,  pitch  010,  yaw  32i+."  And 
we  want  the  high  gain  antenna  angles:  PITCH, 
minus  29;  YAW  IT.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.    320,  010,  32U.    High  gain:    PITCH,  minufi  29; 

YAW,  IT.    And  that's  at  -  that's  for  the  VERB  1+9 
maneuver  at  81+:  35- 

CC  That's  affirm.    And  it  goes  without  saying,  scratch 

ou  -  scratch  out  "OMNI  Alfa"  there. 

LMP  Got  you. 


Tape  U7/5 


CC  Okay,  the  next  one  is  at  85:^2.  85:^2, 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  This  is  Just  a  couple  of  notes  here.    The  P52  stars 

we  got  in  the  CMS  are  I6  and  IT.     Gyro  torquing 
will  take  10  minutes  k'J  seconds,  10  minutes 
U7  seconds. 

LMP  Okay,  the  stars  will  he  stars  I6  and  17 •  Torquing 

will  take  10  minutes  kO  seconds  -  hf  seconds. 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.    Okay,  at  85:1+1+,  over 

there  on  the  right  where  it  says,  "LOl  REFSMMAT 
attitude,"  change  that  -  "roll  06I+,  pitch  135, 
yaw  005."  Over, 

LMP  Okay,  got  you.    Change  is  to  roll  O6I4,  pitch  135 » 

yaw  005. 

02  19  58  23    CC  Okay,  Jack,  and  let's  take  a  hreak  here,  and  you 

can  go  ahead  and  secure  the  high  gain  and  give  me 
OMNI  Bravo,  and  call  me  when  you're  ready  for  some 
more  of  these. 

02  19  59  05    LMP  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    The  next  one  is  an  addition  at  86  hours, 

86  hours .    We  just  want  the  following  words :  "Man- 
ually pressurize  SPS."  Over. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okayi  did  you  get  that  last  one,  86  hours? 

LMP  Roger.     86  hours,  "Manually  pressurize  the  SPS." 

CC  That's  affirmative.    And  just  for  your  information, 

that's  because  we  need  a  couple  hours  of  data  on 
it.     Like  to  look  at  it  a  couple  of  hours  prior 
to  LOI.    Okay,  the  next  one's  at  87:20. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    Where  it  says,  "Manual  roll  left  to  30  de- 

grees," change  "30  degrees"  to  "63  degrees," 
63  degrees .    Change  the  roll  angle  -  - 


All  right. 

  from  "050"  to  "001." 

Okay,  that's  roll  left  63  degrees  and  the  roll  is 
001. 

That's  affirmative.    And  the  new  high  gain  angles 
will  be  PITCH,  minus  2T ;  YAW,  339. 

Okay,  minus  27  and  339. 

Okay,  just  a  little  tit  below  that  -  where  - 
at  about  87:2T  or  87:30,  where  it  says,  "Manually 
roll  right  30  degrees,"  change  the  "30"  to  "63," 
63.    Change  the  roll  to  "06U." 

Okay,  roll  right  63  degrees.     Roll  will  be  061+. 

That's  affirmative.    And  scratch  out  "OMNI  Alfa" 
and  add  "High  gain  antenna:    PITCH,  minus  29; 
YAW,  17,"  YAW  IT. 

Okay.    That's  high  gain:     PITCH,  minus  29;  YAW,  17 . 

Roger,  Jack.    And  the  next  one  is  over  at  89:03. 
We've  got  a  coram  attitude. 

Okay,  89:03. 

Okay,  that  attitude  there  should  -  it's  pretty 
close.    Roll  165,  pitch  060 ,  yaw  338. 

Go  ahead.  Bob. 

Did  you  get  that  last  -  the  attitude  change  there? 
It's  a  real  trivia  change;  we  probably  shouldn't 
have  called  it,  but  it's  -  - 

89:03  ...  to  me . 

-  -  165,  060,  and  338. 

89:03;  excuse  me, 

Roger.    Did  you  get  that  attitude  at  89:03? 


Tape  UT/T 


LMP  Repeat  89:03. 

CC  Roger.    Roll  l65,  pitch  060,  yaw  338. 

LMP  Okay.     New  comm  attitude:     165,  060,  338. 

CC  Roger.    That  seems  hardly  worth  it  on  that.  Jack. 

Sorry  on  that  one .    Just  one  last  note ,  general 
note  on  all  this  we  gave  you.    Everything  has  been 
checked  in  the  CMS.    You  probably  figured  that 
anyway . 

CMP  Roger.    Always  know  those  fellows  are  working  with 

us . 

CC  Roger.    And,  Ron,  we've  got  good  data  on  you  now. 

LMP  Is  that  it? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Jack. 

CMP  Okay;  thank  you.  Jack 

02  20  05  h3    LMP  Bob,  Gene  Just  told  me  I  may  have  confused  you  on 


the  clouds  that  I  told  you  I  could  see  near  the 
terminator  with  a  good  shadow  -  and  the  shadow's 
on  the  eastern  side  as  the  -  the  terminator 
approaches . 


CC  Roger. 

02  20  09  ho    LMP  Bob,  hou  do  you  read  IT? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  I  mentioned  earlier,  I  can't  remember  exactly 


when,  that  it  looked  like  the  wa  -  pattern  of  water 
in  the  Ross  Sea  -  clear  areas  within  the  Ross  Sea 
icepacks  had  changed,  and  I  feel  more  strongly 
about  that  now.    It  looks  like  it's  opened  up  con- 
siderably.   The  tri  -  long  -  elongate  triangular 
areas,  two  of  them  that  were  there  a  couple  of 
days  ago,  seem  to  have  merged,  and  you  also  have 
clear  water  along  most  of  the  inner  portion  of  the 
shoreline  of  that  sea. 

CC  Roger.    Must  be  getting  towards  summertime  down 

there . 


Tape  hf/8 


LMP  Well,  I'm  very  stirprised  that  it's  dieinged  shape 

as  much  as  that ,  and  it  could  be  that  that  tri- 
angular pattern  was  caused  "by  a  cloud  hank  that 
split  what  is  now  open  water  and  made  it  look  as 
if  it  was  icepack. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

02  20  11  10    IMP  Hey,  Bob,  can  one  of  the  guys  there  give  me  a  - 

a  hack  on  when  -  when  the  terminator  should  cross 
Hawaii? 

CC  Roger .    We ' 11  work  it  out . 

LMP  Do  it  in  either  GET  or  CST,  either  one. 

CO  We'll  crank  it  up  to  you  in  GET. 

02  20  13  1+3    CC  Ron,  we  missed  a  NOUN  05  in  there.     Can  you  give 

MS  a  NOUN  05? 

CC  Ron,  Houston.    We  missed  the  NOUN  05  on  the  data  - 

can  you  give  ^ls  what  yovjr  NOUN  05  was? 

CMP  Would  you  believe  five  balls? 

CC  Oh,  I'd  believe  that. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  You  can  go  ahead  and  torque,  Ron. 

CMP  Roger.     Roger.    We'll  torque  at  30  -  5^  30. 

02  20  l6  IT    CC  Jack,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Roger.    We've  been  listening  to  the  playback  of 

the  DSE  tape  from  the  ALFMED  period,  and  all  three 
of  you  sound  pretty  good  on  that.    Gene  is  still 
clearer  thaji  the  rest ,  but  all  three  of  you  sound 
real  clear  and  very  readable . 

MP  Excellent.    That'll  make  up  for  my  note  taking. 


Tape  U7/9 


CC  Roger.    And  also.  Jack.    You  had  a  question  earlier 

about  the  different  response  of  sea  and  continental 
areas  when  viewed  through  monocular  polarizing  fil- 
ter, and  I've  got  a  note  here  from  John  Dietrich 
that  kind  of  explains  it . 

LMP  Okay,  let's  hear  what  John  has  to  say. 

CC  Okay.     This  is  pretty  much  referencing  the  time  you 

were  looking  at  it,  and  here  it  is.     "Ocean  scenes 
near  the  bright  area  off  Bolivia,  which  is  the 
spel  -  specular  point ,  include  a  high  proportion 
of  polarized  light.    The  spacecraft-Earth-Sun 
geometry  now  is  approximately  equal  to  the  Brewster 
angle  which  is  nearest  53  degrees,  where  maximum 
plane  polarization  due  to  reflection  occurs.  There- 
fore, a  high  response  of  scene  brightness  to  changes 
of  filter  position  can  be  expected.  Continental 
scenes  are  dominated  by  Lambert ian  or  diffuse  re- 
flectors, which  are  characterized  by  low  proportion 
of  polarization  in  the  reflected  beam.     For  such 
scenes,  changing  position  of  the  polarization  fil- 
ter produces  changes  in  scene  brightness  that  are 
near  or  below  the  threshhold  of  detectability . " 
Over. 

LMP  Okay.    That  sounds  very  good.     It's  sort  of  like 

the  contrast  between  the  lunar  surface  response 
and  -  the  oceans  being  more  like  that ,  I  guess , 
and  the  -  between  the  lunar  surface  and  terrestrial 
land  surfaces . 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  That's  very  good,  very  interesting.    Thank  -  thank 

John  for  me .    I  should  have  thoiaght  about  that , 
but  I've  been  away  from  it  too  long. 

CC  No  problem.    Okay;  terminator  over  Hawaii  at 

73:^*5  GET. 

02  20  19  09    U^P  73:1+5;  thank  you. 

02  20  25  U7    LMP  Houston,  17 ,    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Go  ahead.    Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 


Tape  U7/IO 


LMP  Roger.     Gene  and  I  are  going  to  stir  yoair  cryos  - 

Gene  and  I  are  going  to  stir  your  cryos  for  you. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  tie  watching  for  it. 

02  20  29  21    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  Apollo  IT  here.    We  have  canister 

number  8  in  the  Bravo . 

CC  Roger;  8  in  the  Bravo.    We  got  it.     You  made  EECOM 

happy  tonight  there,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  and  I'm  still  looking  for  my  scissors. 

CC  For  your  what? 

CMP  Vly  scissors. 

CC  What  did  you  do,  misplace  them?    Or  do  you  want 

me  to  look  up  and  see  where  they're  supposed  to  be? 

CMP  (Laughter)     No.    They  were  stuck  in  the  hand  con- 

troller number  1.     That  little  thing  you're  supposed 
to  put  the  lap  belt  and  things  into.     It  was  stuck 
in  there  last  night  when  I  went  to  bed,  and  I  got  up 
this  morning,  it  was  gone. 

CC  Scissor,  scissor,  who  got  the  scissor,  huh? 

LMP  . . .  waiting  for  him  to  get  up. 

CMP  Yes. 

CC  Well,  I've  got  a  -  I've  got  a  feeling  they're  still 

with  you  somewhere. 

CDR  All  sorts  of  things  happened  on  his  watch. 

CMP  Yes;  we  won't  talk  too  mich  about  that. 

02  20  35  31    CMP  Houston,  are  you  watching  Jack's  EKG? 

CC  Say  again,  Ron;  we  missed  that. 

CMP  Roger.    Are  you  watching  Jack's  and  my  EKG? 

CC  Roger,    Let  me  punch  the  Siirgeon  here. 


Tape  1+7/11 


CMP  We're  doing  a  little  -  we're  doing  a  little  bit  of 

exercising,  now. 

CC  Oh,  we  can  see  that  in  the  cryos .    We  know  you're 

doing  exercises .    Let  me  go  over  and  get  the  num- 
bers here. 


CC  Jack's  at  120  on  the  heart  rate. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  And,  Ron,  you're  about  90. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  And,  Jack  -  guess  you  can  peiss  the  word  to  Jack  we 

refined  that  Hawaii  terminator  number  through  the 
Pacific  fleet  and  called  it  all  around.    It  is 
actually  at  72:55  GET. 

CMP  Okay.     72:65  GET. 

CC  No,  72:55,  55- 

02  20  36  1+5    CMP  Roger.  72:55- 

02  20  37  56    CC  Okay,  Jack.    We  got  you  at  130  right  now. 

02  20  UO  51    LMP  Houston,  this  is  the  LMP.    What  was  the  last  num- 

ber you  saw  on  my  heart  rate? 

CC  Okay,  you  peaked  at  135,  and  we  had  you  at  130  for 

several  minutes . 


LMP  Okay. 

02  20  k2  07    CC  Jack,  Just  for  interest,  in  that  time  you  got 

banging  around  so  hard  there ,  you  caused  the  heaters 
in  the  H^  to  shut  off.    The  -  the  pressure  went  up 

until  the  heater  shut  off. 


LMP  Well,  that's  what  you  wanted,  wasn't  it? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP  Good  thing  there's  not  another  mission  or  we'd  have 

to  flight  plan  this  kind  of  thing  for  your  EECOMs. 


Tape  kl/12 


CC  That's  right.     Got  to  conserve  at  all  cost. 

LMP  Who's  sitting  on  your  right  tonight? 

CC  Got  a  big  Moon  over  there. 

LMP  He's  always  there,  isn't  he? 

CC  Roger. 

02  20  kk  33    LMP  Say,  Bob,  I  took  another  picture  of  the  Earth  and 

forgot  to  give  you  the  GET  on  it.    That  was  about 
15  minutes  before  the  end  of  the  ALFMED  experiment, 
if  you  can  go  back  that  way. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Let  me  see.  Jack.    We  -  the  last  thing  we  had  was 

right  about  the  end  of  it.    We  had  you  in  Sierra 


Sierra,  frame  50.    And  you  had  four  pictiores  then. 
Is  that  before  that  or  after  that?    Okay,  those 
four  were  for  the  ALFMED,  weren't  they? 

That's  affirm.  No,  this  was  with  the  -  the  Hassel- 
blad,  the  EL  camera. 


CC  Oh,  okay;  got  you. 

CC  We  had  FAO  working  on  matching  that  one  up. 

02  20  U5  3h    LMP  Okay. 

02  20  ha  28    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  Roger.    That  weak  front  that  I  talked  about  south 
of  Australia  yesterday  has  moved  north,  but  it 


looks  considerably  weaker  than  it  did  yesterday 
even.    Just  a  very  thin  line  of  clouds  -  very  thin 
line  of  clouds  that  now  is  touching  the  -  the  tip 
of  Australia,  south  of  Perth. 

02  20  51  06    LMP  Houston,  17.     I  think  maybe  you  dropped  out  before 

I  said  that  little  weak  front  moving  north- 
northeast,  south  of  Australia.    The  western  end  of 


Tape  UT/13 


it  is  Just  touching  the  coast  of  Australia,  south 
of  Perth,  hut  it  looks  much  weeiker;  emd  I,  right 
now,  would  not  expect  very  much  weather  out  of  it. 

CC  Okay.    That  -  I  can't  tie  up  with  you  on  that  one, 

Jack,  "because  my  prog  doesn't  go  down  that  far; 
it  only  stays  up  in  the  landing  area.    And  bqt 
satellite  photo  doesn't  go  down  that  far  south 
either.    So,  I  can't  touch  up  with  you  on  that  one. 

LMP  Okay.    Well,  it  -  it  looked  stronger  yesterday, 

and  it  might  have  developed.     Now  there  is  a  larger 
disturbance  at  the  southeastern  end  of  that  front , 
still  south  of  Tasmania;  although,  I  suspect,  un- 
less it  stays  on  a  pretty  northerly  co\irse,  it  will 
not  affect  the  weather  on  the  east  coast  of  Aus- 
tralia very  much. 


CC  Roger. 

02  20  53  05    CC  Jack,  just  thought  you  might  "be  interested.  I 

called  some  friends  of  yours  in  Tucson,  and  every- 
body's fine  there  and  wanted  to  say  hello  and  tell 
you  everybody's  fine  and  getting  along  real.  good. 

LMP  Thank  you  very  much.    Good  to  hear.  They've 

learned  to  take  care  of  themselves  pretty  well, 
haven't  they? 

CC  They  sure  have.    They  -  they're  -  they're  having  a 

little  trouble  with  the  squawk  box,  and  we'll  get 
working  on  that  and  it's  -  they're  having  trouble 
reading  a  little  bit,  but  they're  keeping  up  with 
us. 


LMP  That's  nothing  new. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  But  try  to  fix  it,  please. 

CC  Oh,  we'll  -  definitely  on  that  one. 

02  20  53  59    LMP  Bob,  Ron  got  you  all  -  the  Earth  down  there  zeroed 

in  in  the  sextant,  and  it  puts  my  little  binocular 
to  shame.     I  tell  you,  it's  a  fine  instrument. 


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And  I'll  just  confirm  that  the  -  that  disturbance 
over  the  So  -  Solomon  Islands  is  an  awfully  tightly- 
wound  little  storm  system.     And  right  now,  I  finally 
have  see  New  Zealand  for  the  first  time  in  a  couple 
of  days,  for  sure.    And  the  South  Island's  got  some, 
probably  high  cirrus  over  it .    North  Island  looks 
pretty  clear.    That's  the  end  that  I  can  get  right 
now. 

CC  Eoger.    We  saw  you  looking  at  Regulus  there;  we 

didn't  realize  you  were  looking  at  the  Earth 
instead. 

LMP  Ron's  been  looking  for  the  booster.    And  he  called 

me  down  and  asked  me  to  look  at  the  Earth.  He's 
been  holding  out  on  me. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Pass  the  torch  of  weather  forecasting  to  Ron. 

02  20  55  22    CC  Hey,  Jack.     I  also  have  some  words  for  you  and 

Gene.     Got  some  advice  from  the  home  front.  The 
thing  to  do  with  Ron  in  the  future  is  to  hook  up 
a  Baby  Ben  and  a  metaJ.  dishpan.    It  works  every 
time,  if  you  want  to  wake  him  up. 

CMP  No.     I  think  that's  not  a  good  way. 

CC  Ron,  everybody's  fine  over  at  El  Lago.    They  are 

doing  great.     Listening  to  every  word. 

CMP  Very  good,  Bob.     Thank  you  very  much. 

CDR  Hey,  Bob.    We  got  two  of  those  flashers  out  there. 

They  could  be  SLA  panels.     I  don't  know.  They're 
alike  in  intensity  and  pretty  regular  in  the  -  in 
the  intensity,  bright  and  dim  flashes  they  come 
out  with,  and  they're  widely  separated.    One  is 
about  the  position  we  called  at  the  first  time  i 
the  other  one  is  -  oh ,  as  I 'm  looking  at  the  Earth , 
far  to  the  left.     Closer  to  the  center  window  now. 

02  20  56  52    CC  Roger. 

02  21  01  07    LMP  Houston,  17. 


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CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  Yes,  Bob,  what  is  your  -  analysis  chart,  if  you 

have  it  -  surface  terms  analysis  chart  show  for 
Hawaii  today? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that. 

CC  Jack,  according  to  the  -  - 

LMP  The  reason  I  ask  is  that  for  using  your  term  - 

Go  ahead. 

CC  No,  go  ahead  on  that.  Jack. 

LMP  I  was  going  to  say,  using  your  terminator  time  as 


a  partial  -  mark  for  where  Hawaii  ought  to  be, 
Hawaii  ought  to  be,  it  looks  like  that  cyclonic 
circiolation  at  the  north  end  of  the  cloud  bank  I 
described,  approaching  that  axea,  would  be  Just 
about  on  the  Hawa  -  Hawaiian  Islands.     I'm  curious 
if  they're  getting  some  weather  down  there  now. 

CC  Stand  by  right  now;  I've  got  my  weatherman  right 

beside  me  here. 

LMP  Also,  that  major  front  we  talked  about  last  night 

as  being  east  and  south  of  Japan  has  progressed 
even  farther  and  is,  oh,  maybe  20  degrees  longi- 
tude -  about  20  degrees  longitude  from  the  Hawaiian 
Islands.    And  I'm  making  some  guesses  on  exactly 
where  Hawaii  is . 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    We've  got  nothing  adverse  in  the 

Hawaiian  area  at  all.    Just  a  lot  of  winds,  high 
winds  and  surface  winds  and  surface  roughness, 
but  we  don't  have  any  bad  cloud  area  in  the 
Hawaiian  area.    I'll  get  the  Hickam  sequence  re- 
port here  shortly,  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  ...  a  little  bit.    The  -  our  zero-phase 

point  is  now  centered  just  a  little  south  of  the 
disturbance  near  the  Solomon  Islands.    And  I  see 
no  distinct  change  in  the  intensity  of  that  zero- 
phase  point  over  what  I  had  talked  about  a  couple 
hours  ago. 


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02  21  oh  23    CC  Roger,  Jack.    The  Solomon  Islands  disturbance 

and  everything  is  confirmed  on  this  chart  that 
I've  got.    It's  very  definitely  confirmed  in  there. 

LMP  Okay.    Well,  It's  a  lot  more  ohvlous  today  than 

it  was  yesterday;  but  even  then  it  was  showing 
pretty  strong  circulation.    It  is  starting  to 
wrap  up,  look  very  much  like  Therese  did  yesterday. 

CC  Roger.     I'm  sure  of  that.    The  one  right  off  of 

Vietnam  is  also  pretty  tight,  isn't  it  still? 

LMP  Well,  we  can't  see  that  one  yet. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Australia  in  general  is  still  very  clear  except 

in  the  northeastern  portions  where  it  looks  like 
they  have  got  scattered  clouds;  but  it  looks  like 
a  pretty  night  -  over  Australia. 

CC  Roger.     Looks  that  way  from  the  satellite  photo 

from  the  last  couple  days.     Looks  pretty  nice 
down  there, 

02  21  05  3h    LMP  Right. 

02  21  07  05     CC  Jack,  in  looking  at  the  sequence  reports  for 

Hickam  and  Hilo  and  that  area,  it  looks  like  they 
Just  got  their  standard  3500  scattered,  1+500  broken 
clouds,  maybe  a  rain  shower  or  two.    But  Just 
their  standard  tropical  fluffy  clouds. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  i+8/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


02  21  12  35    CMP  Houston,  Apollo  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

02  21  12  1*5    CMP  Bob,  I  don't  know  whether  I  told  you  or  not,  but 

we  ended  up  with  the  LMP  and  the  CDRs  suit  .'n  the 
bottom  of  this  suit  hag.     Ity  suit  is  in  the  top, 
and  I  sure  don't  have  any  idea  how  in  the  world 
the  other  crews  got  three  suits  in  there.     I  guess 
they  never  did  because  these  things  are  pltiinb  full 
right  now,  of  suits,   ...  suit  hag.     And  it's  a 
good  thing  we  lengthened  them.     I  don't  have  room 
for  anything  else  inside  the  suit  bag.    The  water 
bags  and,  you  know,  contingency  water  bags,  and 
my  g-suit,  and  those  flight  things  are  -  I  fo\and 
a  place  to  stick  them  all  around  the  wall  on  the 
outside  of  the  suit  bag. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    Good  work. 

02  21  13  50    LMP  Bob,  you  made  some  comment  earlier  about  the 

weather.     It  may  have  been  Hawaii,  but  you  broke 
up. 

02  21  13  56    CC  Roger;  I  Just  got  the  seq.uence  report  for  Hawaii, 

and  Hickam  had  3500,  scattered;  i+500,  broken  with 
minor  rain  showers;  and  Hilo  had  about  the  same. 
And  basically,  it's  Just  their  tropical  puffy 
weather  out  there.    The  typical  nothing.  No 
frontal-type  weather  -  no  cyclonic-type  weather. 

LMP  Okay.    Well,  it  may  be  just  patterns  induced  by 

the  -  the  wind  currents,  or  maybe  I  don't  have 
the  position  of  Hawaii  quite  right. 

CC  Well,  it's  -  it's  possible.     You  know  they  do  have 

high  winds  out  there,  and  I've  seen  it,  just  fly- 
ing in  that  area  in  the  past,  where  those  broken 
clouds  get  pretty  close  together  at  times.  It 
almost  looks  like  a  solid  overcast.    And  especially 
when  you  look  at  it  from  aji  angle,  they  all  blend 
together. 


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LMP  I  hope  you're  going  to  save  all  those  charts  you're 

gathering  together  as  we  talk  ahout  it  on  this 
oufboimd  leg.     Be  interesting  to  compare  them  and 
the  pictures  we  take  sometime  in  January. 

02  21  15  l8    CC  Jack,  the  Weather  just  was  out  here,  and  they  told 

me  that's  exactly  what  they're  doing.    And  if  your 
time  will  permit  in  January,  they'd  like  to  go 
through  and  maybe  help  piece  them  all  together, 
but  they're  going  through  these  transcripts  and 
they're  gathering  all  their  satellite  pictures  and 
plotting  what  you're  seeing  versus  the  satellite 
pictures  etc.,  etc.     And  they'd  like  to  go  over 
it  with  you  when  you  get  back. 

LMP  I'd  love  to  do  that,     I  hope,  in  general,  we're 

getting  the  directions  right.    At  least,  I  know  I 
thought  I'd  worry  about  the  descriptions,  and  it's 
hard  to  place  points  on  the  globe,  particularly  in 
the  Pacific,  if  you  can't  identify  land  masses 
near  them  or  have  those  nice  little  latitude  and 
longitude  lines  painted  on  the  Earth. 

CC  Well,  that's  right.    We'll  -  we'll  put  ill  a  request 

for  some  lat  ~  long  lines  out  there. 

02  21  17  15    CC  Jack,  we're  going  to  have  a  slight  changeover  from 

Goldstone  to  Honeysuckle  at  72  hours,  so  we  will 
probably  break  by. 

LMP  Okay.     Bob,  you  know  you're  just  the  last  turn  or 

so,  you  started  to  break  up  occasionally  as  if  you 
might  be  getting  a  bad  mike  button  or  something. 

CC  Okay,  I'll  check  it  owt, 

02  21  22  kg    CC  17,  Houston  through  Honeysuckle.     How  do  you  read? 

CDR  You're  loud  and  clear.  Bob, 

CC  Roger.    Samo,  samo. 

02  21  28  15    LMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


Tape  1+8/3 


02  21  28  23    LMP  I's  just  playing  with  the  polarizing  filter  again, 

and  it  looks  as  if  -  when  you  have  the  knob  on  the 
filter  parallel  to  the  -  roughly  parallel  to  the 
polar  axis  of  the  Earth,  -  you  get  maximum  darken- 
ing.   And,  of  course,  the  opposite  90  degrees  to 
that  you  get  maximum  lightening  of  the  globe.  And, 
in  the  -  in  the  case  of  Australia,  it  also  appears 
to  lighten  and  darken,  but  not  to  the  extent  of 
the  -  of  the  ocean  areas. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  It  could  be  that  in  the  more  desert  climate  you 

get  finer  grain  material  on  the  ground  and  give 
you  the  response  that  John  Dietrich  had  talked 
about. 

CC  Roger. 

02  21  31  02    LMP  Houston,  1?. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  I  rechecked  that  little  story  I  was  trying  to 

give  you  about  the  ice  pack  there  in  the  Ross  Sea. 

CC  Roger. 

02  21  31  l6    LMP  And  whether  I  was  right  a  couple  of  days  ago  or 

not  -  whether  I  was  right  a  couple  of  days  ago 
or  not  in  the  patterns,  right  ncnr  there  is  a  lot 
of  open  water  between  the  ice  pack  and  the  inner 
or,  let's  say,  southern  and  south  -  eastern  shore 
of  the  sea  that  I  don't  recall  being  there  the 
other  day. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  I  don't  know  whether  you  have  any  connections 

with  all  the  Marines  stationed  in  Antarctica, 
but  maybe  somebody  knows  what  the  ice  pack's  been 
doing  the  last  few  days. 

CC  I'll  -  I'll  see  if  we  can  find  out.  Jack.     I  don't 

think  we've  got  any  gates  in  Antarctica,  though. 


Tape  kd/k 


LMP  Well,  that  way  you  can't  lose  any. 

CC  Roger.    Well,  they  never  stole  the  continent. 

LMP  Soimds  like  pretty  good  duty.  Bob, 

02  21  51  13    LMP  Houston,  I7. 

CC  Go  aJaead,  IT- 


LMP 


CC 


CC 


Yes,  I  -  may  have  misled  you  earlier  about  a  storm 
system  south  of  Tasmania.    It's  -  If  there  is  one, 
it's  Just  developing,  and  it's  probably  20  degrees 
of  longitude  south.     As  I  recall  yesterday,  there 
was  some  indication  that  a  couple  fronts  were  join- 
ing forces  and  moving  in  that  direction.    Today,  the 
weaJter  and  more  western  front  appears  to  have  domi- 
nated the  system,  and  the  only  area  where  there 
seems  to  be  cyclonic  circiaation  developing  is  - 
is  that  point  way  south  of  Tasmania.     That  con- 
ceivably might  move  up  and  affect  New  Zealand  in 
a  few,  in  a  couple  days,  but  right  now  I  don't  see 
how  it  could  affect  Australia. 


CC  Roger,  Jack- 

02  22  15  30    CC  IT,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead.  Bob. 


I  just  wanted  to  give  you  fair  warning.  Jack.  In 
case  you  all  feel  a  bump  there  when  you're  about 
ready  to  go  to  sleep  there.     At  T3:17:U5,  you'll 
cross  that  magic  line  into  the  lunar  sphere  of 
influence. 


02  22  15  53    CDR  What's  the  number.  Bob? 

CC  T3:17:it5. 
02  22  16  06    CDR  Bob,  do  you  read  us? 


Roger.  We  read  you  loud  and  clear.  We're  reading 
you.  Jack.     How  me? 


Tape  kQ/3 


02  22  16  23    CMP  You're  reading  Gene.     How  me? 

CC  Okay,  sorry.     I'm  reading  -  reading  IT  loud  and 

clear. 

02  22  16  33    CDR  Okay,  this  is  Geno.    What  was  that  number  on  the 

lunar  sphere  of  influence? 

02  22  16  37    CC  73  hours  17  minutes       seconds:  73:17:U5. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    You're  a  little  intermittent.  Anyway, 

what  you  mean  is  we  start  hauling  the  mail  I  gue***. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  I  guess  we  hit  our  slowest  point.    How  fast  are 

we  going  now? 

02  22  17  1+7    CC  Gene,  you're  pretty  slow  today.    You're  at 

235^  feet  per  second. 

CDR  Yes.     That's  -  that's  quite  a  drop  from  the  35  K 

that  the  S-IVB  put  us  on. 

CC  That's  for  sure. 

CDR  Say,  Bob.    What  do  you  hear  from  my  home  front? 

Anything? 

CC  Talked  to  Tracy  a  little  while  a^o,  and  she's 

listening  to  the  box  quite  often  and  enjoying  it, 
and  everybody's  fine  there. 

02  22  18  33    CDR  Bob,  you're  continuing  ...     We're  getting  every 

third  word. 

02  22  18  55    CC  Gene,  do  you  read  me  any  better  on  this  one? 

02  22  19  13    CC  17,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  How  do  you  read  me  now? 

02  22  19  27    CDR  I  think  you're  still  ...  off. 


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02  22  19  30    CC  Roger;  you're  breaking  up  on  us.  too.     Let's  check 

it  through  here  a  minute. 

CDR  Okay. 

02  22  19  UT    CC  We  vere  wondering  who  was  going  to  be  wearing 

the  headset  tonight.  Jack.     Who's  got  the  duty? 

02  22  20  15    CC  17,  Houston. 

02  22  2k  35    CDR  Hey,  Bob.    You  reading  us  now? 

02  22  25  10    CC  17,  Houston,  did  you  call? 

CDR  I  just  wondered  if  you're  reading  tas  now.  Bob. 

02  22  25  25    CC  Roger.    Reading  you  now  loud  and  clear.     I  was 

just  off  a  mnute  there,  talking  to  Barbara  on 
the  phone.    Everybody's  fine  on  the  home  front 


CDR 
CC 

CDR 


CDR 


CC 


Gene.  ' 
Okay,  what  did  you  say  Tracy  said  earlier? 

She  just  said  she's  tickled  pink  and  listening  - 
listening  on  the  squawk  box. 

I  guess  that's  the  way  a  9-year-old  daughter 
should  be  in  a  case  like  this,  huh? 


CC  That's  affirmative. 


In  case  she's  not  listening,  tell  her  not  to  for- 
get to  feed  the  horses. 

Roger.     Barbara  said  I  should  find  some  nice  young 
female  voice  around  here  to  tell  you  she  loves 
you,  good  night.    But  I  figure  we'd  better  not 
do  that. 


CDR  Okay;  enough  said.     I  guess  what  we  don't  need 

right  (chuckle)  right  now  is  a  nice  female  voice. 

CC  I'm  svre  of  that. 

CDR  We're  just  happy,  health  -  healthy,  hungry,  and 

homesick. 


Tape  1+8/7 


CC  You  got  a  lot  of  work  to  do,  and  you  better  not 

say  you're  hungry.     The  doctor  about  went  through 
the  overhead  over  here  when  you  said  that. 

CDR  That's  a  cliche. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Bob,  Just  in  general,  how  is  the  spacecraft  look- 

ing to  you?    Pretty  good,  I  hope. 

CC  That's  affirmative.    We  -  we  haven't  found  anything. 

I  guess  we're  -  stopped  getting  those  spurious 
MASTER  ALARMS  here  for  a  while.     So  that  -  that 
was  the  only  witch  hunt  we  were  having  right  there, 
was  trying  to  find  that. 

CDR  Yes,  they  disappesxed.     The  ones  we've  had  recently 

seem  to  be  real  ones. 

CC  Roger. 

02  22  27  58    CC  Hey,  guys,  we  were  just  still  trying  to  figure  out 

who  is  going  to  wear  the  headset  and  got  -  who  has 
the  duty  tonight? 

CDR  Oh,  I'll  wear  it  tonight.  Bob. 

CC  Is  that  Gene? 

CDR  Yes. 

CC  Okay. 

02  22  28  30    CMP  And,  Houston;  17.     You  ready  for  some  onboard 

re ad- outs? 

CC  You  better  believe  it, 

02  22  28  39    CMP  Okay.     BAT  C,  36.8;  PYRO  BAT  A,  37-0;  and  Bravo  is 

37.0,    RCS  Alfa,  93,  91,  91,  and  9I+.  Over. 

CC  Roger.    Got  them  all,  Ron, 


Tape  1+8/8 

02  22  31  38  CMP 
CC 

02  22  31  5h  CMP 
02  22  31  58  CC 


Houston,  we're  cycling  the  FAK 
Roger,  IT.    Go  ahead. 
Okay.     We're  cycling  the  FANs. 
Okay;  we  copy. 

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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRAMSCRIPTIOH 

02  23  03  09    CDR  Hello,  Houston. 

CO  17,  Houston;  go  ahead. 

02  23  03  20    CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we're  going  to  tuirn  out  the  lights  now 

and  hit  the  sack. 

CC  Okay.    Have  you  gone  through  the  presleep  check- 

list, getting  reac3y  on  the  coram  and  all  that? 

CDR  Yesi  that's  affirm  -  the  presleep  checklist. 

CC  We're  not  getting  any  "biomed  data  on  -  supposed 

to  be  on  Ron,  I  guess.    We're  not  showing  any 
biomed  data. 

CDR  Houston,  do  you  read  IT? 

CC  IT,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  me? 

CDR  Yes,  I'm  reading  you.  Bob.    What  did  you  say  I 

might  want? 

CC  You  might  check  the  sensors  on  Ron,     We're  not 

getting  any  biomed  data.    Is  he  unplugged? 

CDR  Well,  that's  because  he's  -  Yes,  he's  unplugged. 

Give  him  a  chance  to  get  hooked  up  and  change  some 
leads  here. 

CC  Okay . 

CDR  Everything  else  -  the  presleep  check  -  the  presleep 

checklist  is  complete.     I'm  going  to  leave  the 
comm  cap  on  tonight.    Our  tone  boost  doesn't  work, 
so  I'll  just  be  on  comm  all  night. 

CDR  Do  you  have  any  biomed  on  Ron? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that.  Gene. 

02  23  OT  OT    CDR  Good  night,  Robert. 


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02  23  07  10    CC  Good  night.  Gene. 

02  23  07  15    CC  Got  a  busy  day  tomorrow,  and  we'll  -  we'll  be  with 

you  then. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIE-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

03  06  50  09    CDR  Good  morning,  Houston.    How  are  you? 

CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.    Did  you  call? 

CDR  Good  morning,  Houston.    Anybody  there? 

CC  Okay,  good  morning.     It's  LOI  day,  Apollo  IT • 

CDR  Hello,  Robert.    You  gave  us  an  extra  half  hour. 

CC  That's  affirmative.    We're  presently  still  debating 

on  midcourse  U,  Geno,  and  at  the  present  time,  it's 
small,  about  a  half  a  foot  per  second.    We're  ex- 
pecting a  final  decision  on  whether  it's  necessary 
or  not  in  approximately  1  hour  at  8  -  82:30.  We'll 
let  you  know  then,  but  it  will  be  small,  and  so 
we  decided  to  give  you  an  extra  half  hour  of  sleep. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  without  me  having  to  look  it  up,  when 

will  it  come  if  it  comes? 

CC  Stand  by.    83:55,  so  we'll  give  you  about  1  hour  and 

25  minutes  advance  notice. 

CDR  Okay.    Well,  we'll  start  stirring  around. 

03  06  52  06    CC  Okay,  give  me  a  call  when  you  want  to  talk  to 

people . 

03  06  59  56    LMP  Hello,  Houston. 

CC  Hello  there,  IT.    Good  morning. 

LMP  I'm  not  sure  we're  ready  to  talk  yet.  Bob,  but  I 

Just  thought  you'd  like  to  know  we  got  a  pretty 
spectacular  view  of  -  of  Africa  today.    We  can  see 
the  Sinai,  can  see  the  Red  Sea,  the  Sea  of  Aden, 
and  for  the  first  time  I  think  we  can  not  only 
see  the  Mediterranean,  but  we  can  see  the  -  most 
of  the  Southern  European  countries,  Turkey  and 
Greece  and  up  into  Italy  and  some  of  those  places, 
can't  quite  see  Spain  because  you're  just  about 
on  the  horizon.    And  for  the  most  part,  it  looks 
like  the  weather  throughout  the  Mediterranean  and 
Northern  Africa  looks  pretty  good . 


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CC  Okay,  we're  copying  that.    And,  if  you  guys  are 

villing  to  do  a  little  switch  flipping  this  early 
in  morning,  we'd  like  you  to  turn  on  the  pan  cam- 
era heaters,  which  means  if  somebody's  down  there 
in  that  vicinity,  it's  SM/AC  POWER,  ON,  and  the 
SELF  TEST  switch  to  HEATERS.  Over. 


LMP  You  want  the  SM/AC  POWER,  ON,  and  the  SELF  TEST 

switch  to  HEATERS? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP  Okay,  we'll  get  that. 

CC  Okay . 

03  07  01  30    SC  Okay,  we  got  both  of  those. 

CC  Gee,  I  didn't  wake  you  up,  did  I? 

03  OT  02  00    LMP  Well  - 

03  07  08  h3    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     The  LM/CM  DELTA -P  is  0.6. 

03  07  20  hi    CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    Sounds  good. 

CMP  Hello,  Houston;  Apollo  17.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Hello.    Loud  and  clear,  17.    We're  with  you. 

CMP  Okay,  we  didn't  get  you  there  for  about  5  minutes. 

Bob,  with  good  up— link  signal  strength.     Were  you 
guys  having  a  problem? 


CC  No,  not  that  I  know  of.    We  were  getting  a  lot  of 

noise  down  here,  and  we  seem  to  think  that  you 
guys  were  prob  -  assumed  you  guys  were  turned 
away  from  us  or  something.    But  we're  with  you. 

CMP  No,  you  might  think  about  that  one  a  little  bit. 

We  had  a  very  strong  up-link  -  signal  strength,  as 
good  as  right  now.    And  Gene  was  trying  to  call 
you,  off  and  on,  for  several  minutes  and  we  didn't 
get  any  response.     But  sounds  real  good  now. 


CC 


Okay,  sorry  about  that. 


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CMP  Hey,  Bob.    Good  morning.    It ' s  a  good  chance  to 

talk  to  you  for  once. 

CC  Yes,  for  once,  yes.    Talk  to  me  now  this  next  hour 

and  I  won't  talk  to  you  again  for  another  3  or 
1*  days ,  Ronald . 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  Nice  to  he  ahle  to  talk  to  somebody  for  a  change  - 

LMP  Boh,  your  friendly  medical  officer  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 

IMP  Go  ahead,  if  you've  got  something  to  say. 

CC  Speak. 

LMP  Okay.    Your  friendly  medical  officer  has  all  the 

good  words  starting  with  the  CDR  and  the  food. 
Are  you  ready  to  copy? 

CC  Ready  to  copy. 

LMP  Okay.    It  was  a  hig  day  yesterday,  eatingwise. 

CDR  had  sausage  patties,  pears,  and  cocoa  for 
hreakfast.    And  a  quarter  -  one-fourth  cheese 
spread,  one-half  bread,  and  one-half  cereal  bar, 
and  one  orange  beverage.    For  lunch.    Tomato  soup, 
half  a  hamburger,  half  mustard,  vanilla  pudding, 
and  an  orange-pineapple  drink  for  dinner. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP  ...  5  hours  of  good  sleep,  and  two  more  containers 

of  water . 

CC  Okay,  IT,  I  got  the  CDRs  food  and  then  you  broke  up, 

and  I  got  5  hours  of  sleep  and  two  containers  of 
water.    Was  there  something  between? 

LMP  That's  firm,  your  -  his  PRD  reading,  1T032. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that . 

LMP  And  I  think.  Bob,  we're  coming  around  different 

omni,  so  I'll  wait  on  the  rest  of  it. 


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03  07  23  59    CC  Roger.    That's  affirm. 

03  07  26  55    LMP  Okay,  Houston ;  17 .     How  do  you  read  now? 

CC  Okay,  read  you  again;  go  ahead, 

LMP  Okay,  for  the  LMP,  the  food  eaten  -  Well,  let's 

see,  I  guess  it ' s  a  tossup:     eaten  versus  not 
eaten,  so  I'll  give  you  what  I  ate.  Sausage 
patties,  grits,  pears,  pineapple-grapefruit  drink, 
coffee,  and  let  me  make  a  note  that  the  package  of 
peaches  in  that  pack  had  been  -  was  broken  in  the 
package.    Also,  chicken  -  I  had  chicken  soup,  ham, 
bread,  orange  drink,  and  four  bacon  squares.  For 
dinner,  I  sort  of  ate  some  leftovers  and  grape 
drink,  corn  chowder,  chocolate  pudding.    And  I've 
had  -  Well,  stand  by.    The  PRD  reading:  2Uo80; 
and  7-1/2  hours  of  very  good  sleep  last  night .  I 
took  a  Sec onal_in  order  to  get  to  sleep,  and  I've 
had  1  and  1  or  -  2-1/2  containers  of  water  since 
last  report. 


CC  Okay,  copy  all  that.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  the  CMP,  the  chowhound  of  the  kennel  here, 

had:     sausage,  grits,  fruit  cocktail,  orange 
beverage,  and  coffee.    He  had  ham,  cheese  spread, 
peaches,  cereal  bar,  and  orange-pineapple  drink. 
Later  on,  he  had  tomato  soup,  half  a  hamburger, 
half  mustard,  vanilla  pudding,  sugar  cookies,  grape 
drink,  and  tea.     And  he  has  a  complaint  this 
morning,  much  like  mine,  that  his  apricot  package 
had  broken  in  the  bag;  and,  although  not  too 
significant  itself,  it  makes  everything  else  pretty 
sticky. 


CC  I  copy  that. 

LMP  Okay,  CMP  medical  is  15031  PRD;  he  had  7  hours 

restless  sleep,  and  he'd  like  a  comment  from  the 
doctors  on  how  that  looked  on  his  biomed;  and  he 
had  a  Seconal,  and  he's  had  four  containers  of 
water . 


CC 


Okay,  we  copy  all  that  one  also.  Jack,  you  guys 
still  going  to  fit  in  your  space  suits? 


Tape 


LMP  If  you'd  stick  around  -  you'd  know  ve  tried  those 

on  yesterday. 

CC  Roger;  copy.    Tried  to  talk  to  you  guys  yesterday 

morning,  but  I  didn't  quite  make  it,  there  was  a 
problem  apparently  some  place. 

LMP  That's  all  right,  we're  stuffing  him  with  food  so 

he  can't  sleep. 

03  07  30  1+3    CC  Okay,  and  the  comment  concerning  Ron's  sleep  from 

the  Surgeon,  Jack,  is  that  he  was  restless  the 
first  hoiar  and  had  periods  of  restlessness  during 
the  night,  but  we  logged  him  for  about  7  hours  of 
sleep  also.     But  we  did  see  periods  of  wakefulness, 
sane  of  which  were  maybe  up  to  10  minutes  long. 

CMP  That  sounds  about  right;  that's  good,  thank  you. 

If  I  can't  tell  how  long  I'm  awake  and,  you  know, 
how  long  you  were  really  asleep, 

CC  I'll  tell  you,  Ron,  if  you  wake  up  during  the 

night,  you  might  sit  there  and  stare  at  the  second 
hand  then  maybe  you  could  count  and  tell  how  long 
you're  awake. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  we  owe  you  guys  a  consumable  update  -  update. 

And  on  RCS  consTjmables ,  your  RCS  fuel  remaining  is 
still  l.U  percent  above  the  Flight  Plan;  that's  a 
slight  improvement  over  the  1.3  percent  from 
yesterday. 

03  07  32  19    LMP  I  guess  everything  else  is  about  like  yesterday. 

Is  that  right.  Bob? 

CC  Roger.    The  consumables  are  still  about  the  same. 

And  if  you  guys  will  wind  your  watches,  we'll 
consider  the  postsleep  checklist  finished. 

LMP  Okay,  and  Geno  has  got  his  null  bias  check  for  you. 

CC  Okay,  Roger  on  that.    We're  waiting. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  made  two  checks  over  a  period  of 

100  seconds.  One  was  minus  99-0  and  the  other  was 
minus  98 •9. 


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CC             Okay,  we  copy  minus  99-0  and  minus  98.9,  Geno. 
CDR  And   

03  07  33  21    CC  And  we'd  like  OMNI  Charlie,  please  there,  17. 

03  07  35  26    CC  And,  Apollo  17;  Houston.    We'd  like  to  recommend 

you  go  SQUELCH,  OFF,  at  this  time,  if  you  haven't; 
and  we'll  keep  calling  you  the  omnis  to  change  as 
you  rotate  there.  Over. 

LMP  Okay,  Boh,  we've  been  flying  normally  with  it 

enabled;  maybe  you  think  that's  the  problem. 

CC  Stand  by  on  that  and,  while  we're  thinking  about 

it,  can  we  confirm  that  the  only  medication  you've 
had  is  a  Seconal  for  you  and  a  Seconal  for  Ron,  and 
nothing  for  the  Commander? 

CDR  This  is  Geno,  that's  right;  I  did  not  take  any 

Seconal  last  night.     One  thing  I  wanted  to  talk 
to  you  about  though,  I  -  I  took  one  antigas  pill 
after  breakfast,  I  took  one  after  supper,  and  I 
took  one  prior  to  going  to  sleep,  which  were  prob- 
ably within  an  hour  apart.     If  you've  got  a  better 
solution  than  those  gas  pills,  I'd  sure  like  to  hear 

CC  Understand  that.  Gene.    We'll  get  back  with  you,  I 

guess,  on  that  later. 

03  07  37  20    CC  And,  Jack,  as  far  as  turning  the  SQUELCH,  OFF,  I  - 

they  do  believe  that  we're  better  with  that  for 
margins  and  general  management  at  this  distance 
with  the  omni.     As  soon  as  we  plot  a  PTC  and  go  on 
the  high  gain,  we'll  be  much  better  off, 

LMP  Okay,  Bob. 

03  07  38  k6    CC  And,  17;  Houston.    You  can  do  without  your  water 

dump  now.    We're  in  good  shape.    We'll  dump  at 
9^  hours. 

CDR  9^  hours.  Okay. 

CDR  Bob,  does  that  mean  we  can  go  ahead  with  the  urine 

dump  on  schedule? 


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CC  Say  again  there,  Geno,  on  the  urine  d\itrip. 

CC  Say  again,  Geno,  on  the  urine  dump. 

CDR  Roger.    Can  ve  press  on  with  it  on  schedule? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  sir.     It's  Just  that  we  don't 

need  to  do  the  water  dump,  that's  etll. 


CDR  Oh, 

CDE  Okay,  fine. 

03  OT  kk  hi    IMP  Hello,  Hou  -  Houston;  IT.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Roger.    We  have  you  back  again,  17. 

CDR  Okay.    We  may  play  the  S-band  squelch  by  ear,  a 

little  bit .    We  got  an  awful  lot  of  noise  when  you 
guys  drop  off  the  line.    So,  if  that's  all  right, 
we'll  just  use  it  as  required.     Also,  I'm  on 
frame  l63  on  the  Hasselblad,  and  I  just  completed 
two  pictures  of  the  Earth  about  5  minutes  ago. 
And  there's  one  that  I  did  not  report  late  yes- 
terday at  about  72:30  GET.    A  set  of  two  pictures 
of  the  Earth. 


CC  Copy  that. 

CC  Say  again  that  time.     Was  that  78:30?    You  were 

sleeping  then. 

CDR  Negative.    That  was  72:30. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    And  part  of  the  reason  we  had  a 

little  problem  that  -  this  -  this  last  time.  Jack, 
was  we  planned  to  call  the  omnis  and  we  didn't  get 
the  word  around  down  here.    And  we  didn't  call  the 
omni  to  you  in  time.    We're  still  planning  on  doing 
that,  and  I  think  we'll  be  more  coordinated  next 
time. 


LMP 


Okay.    We'll  bear  with  you. 


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CC  And,  Jack,  I  presume  that's  magazine  November 

Hovanber . 

03  07  h6  53    LMP  That's  affirm,  Bob. 

ETTO  OF  TAPE 


Tape  55/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


03  07  50  2k    CC  OMNI  Charlie,  17,  please, 

CMP  You  got  it. 

CC  And,  Apollo  17;  Houston.    For  your  information,  we 

are  scrubbing  midcourse  k;  and  you  can  stay  in  PTC 
\mtil  83:30,  which  will  be  about  when  you  start 
to  get  ready  for  LOI  anyway.    We'll  give  you  a  call 
on  that. 

5C  •  •  • 

03  07  5^  31    LMP  Hey,  Bob,  we're  about  three-q^uarters  of  the  way 

through  eating.     You  got  some  news  for  us? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  see.     Did  you  catch  the  midcourse-U 

scrub? 

LMP  Yes,  sir.    Apparently,  you're  not  getting  some  of 

our  acknowledgements. 

CC  Okay,  must  be.    Captain  Young  here  wants  to  tell 

you  that  it's  raining  outside;  and  the  paperboy 
apparently  hasn't  come  in  yet.    OMNI  Delta,  please. 

CDR  I'm  surprised  he  didn't  get  his  papers  delivered 

before  he  came  in. 

CC  Roger.     I  suppose  I  should  apologize  to  all  the 

paperboys  after  saying  that ,  but  the  news  is  still 
being  put  together  for  you  guys.    And  -  stand  by. 

CC  And,  Geno,  some  advice  to  you  on  the  gas  pills. 

I  guess  -  suggestion  down  here  from  the  Surgeon  is 
that  one  thing  we  ought  to  be  sure  to  do  is  chew 
the  pills  thoroughly.    It  apparently  is  -  helps  in 
their  effectiveness  quite  a  bit ;  and  Dr.  Young, 
beside  me,  also  suggested  if  you're  chewing  chewing 
gum,  you  might  cut  down  on  that  a  bit  becaxise  he 
thinks  this  might  be  causing  some  gas. 

CDR  Thank  you. 


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03  07  56  Ul    CDR  I  might  add  that  both  of  those  alternatives  have 

heen  -  worked  on. 

CC  We  thoiaght  probably  so. 

LMP  Bob,  althoiigh  we're  getting  close  to  concentrating 

OTir  attention  on  the  Moon,  it  doesn't  decrease  the 
interest  in  looking  back  at  the  patterns  of  activity 
we  can  see  on  the  Earth.    That  storm  I  talked  about 
yesterday  that  was  in  Horth  Africa,  looks  like  it 
has  left  that  area  and  has  moved  in  -  maybe,  if  it's 
there  at  all,  it's  Just  over  the  -  Iberian  Penin- 
sula,   And  maybe  Gibraltar  and  that  area  is  getting 
a  little  activity  today. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that,  Jack. 

LMP  It  does  not  look  very  well  organized,  but  -  it's 

not  very  well  organized  right  now,  but  -  it's 
right  out  on  the  LM,  and  it's  hard  to  get  a  good 
view  of  It. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  The  storm  I  guessed  yesterday  -  I  thought  might 

be  moving  into  the  Cape  of  Good  Hope  looks  like 
it's  dissipating  and  also  staying  south  of  that 
area.     The  whole  of  Africa  is  essentially  clear, 
except  in  the  southern  part  of  the  intertropical 
convergence  area  where  there's  scattered  patches 
of  -  of  fairly  dense  clouds.     They're  probably 
getting  scattered  rain  showers  of  some  kind  in 
there  this  morning.    Some  of  those  extend  farther 
south  than  I've  -  them  we've  seen  them  -  down  into 
South  Africa.    There's  a  -  On  one  of  the  earlier 
revs,  although  now  it's  at  the  terminator,  it 
looked  like  there  was  a  depression  developing 
about  30  degrees  longitude,  east  of  Madagascar  in 
the  middle  of  the  Indian  Ocean.    A  little  bit 
northeast  of  Madagascar,  there's  also  a  new  area 
of  clouds  developed  that  looks  like  it's  getting 
organized  into  a  cyclone  pattern. 

CC  Roger.    OMNI  Alfa,  please. 

IWP  Okay,  you  got  it. 


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CC  Thank  you. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  while  you  guys  are  finishing  your 

lunch  -  your  "breakfast  there ,  excuse  me  -  Are  you 
all  on  your  headsets? 

IMP  Yes,  sir.     Go  ahead, 

03  08  00  06    CC  Okay.     Let  me  brief  you  on  a  little  funny  that  we 

we  saw  last  night.    And  I'll  start  the  briefing  by 
mentioning  that,  at  the  present  time,  it  is  not  a 
great  concern;  but  just  to  keep  you  up  to  date 
with  what's  going  on,  let  me  mention  it  to  you. 
About  70  hours,  which  was  probably  about  the  time 
of  your  last  exercise  period,  we  saw  three  funnies 
with  the  hydrogen  tanks  -  as  I  say,  none  of  which 
is  causing  any  great  concern.     The  first  of  these 
was  a  shift  of  the  limits  of  the  pressure  switch, 
the  one  that  turns  the  heaters  on  and  off.  Remem- 
ber, there  are  two  of  those  switches,  one  on  tank  1 
and  one  on  tank  2  and  they  work  in  series.  And 
one  of  those  switches  -  we  can't  tell  which,  but 
we  suspect  it's  probably  tank  2  because  of  the 
other  funnies  I'll  get  to  in  a  minute  on  tank  2  - 
one  of  those  switches  went  from  a  13-psi  range; 
in  other  words,  a  plus  or  minus  6.5-psi  range. 
It  changed  its  range  down  to  plus  or  minus  1.5  psi , 
So  it's  now  -  its  total  range  is  only  3  psi.  The 
main  result  of  that  is  that  it  means  that  the 
pressure  switches  and  the  motor  switch  turning  the 
heater  on  acts  more  frequently  over  shorter  periods 
of  time.     The  second  thing  which  we  observed 
following  this  -  and  we're  not  at  all  sure  if 
there  is  any  correlation  between  this  and  the 
others  -  We  observed  a  high-frequency  pressure 
oscillation  in  tank  2,    It  was  about  a  5-psi  peak- 
to-peak  oscillation,  a  frequency  of  about  2  cycles 
per  second.     And  this  lasted  about  3  to  5  minutes, 
A  third  funny  that  we  observed  -  and  this  was  in 
tank  2  -  the  third  funny  that  we  observed  was  an 
erratic  -  and  possibly  correlated  with  the  high- 
frequency  oscillation  -  but  an  erratic  total  fuel 
cell  currents,  and  here  again  we  were  looking  at  - 
oh,  peak-to-peak  variations  of  something  like 
5  amps,  or  of  5  to  10  amps.     And  the  suspicion  is 
that ,  coupled  with  the  shift  in  the  limits  of  the 
pressure  switch,  some  acoustic  vibrations  were  set 


Tape  55/^ 


up  in  that  tank  -  we  may  have  seen  them  causing 
the  oscillation  of  the  motor  switch,  which  was  then 
reflected  in  the  fuel  cell  currents.     The  -  again, 
these  erratic  and  possibly  correlated  fuel  cell 
currents  lasted  for  about  3  to  5  minutes.  And 
since  then,  all  during  the  night,  they've  [sic] 
been  no  further  events  of  this  sort;  and  the  pres- 
sure switch  with  its  reduced  limits  has  been  acting 
quite  normally,  just  with  the  reduced  limits  over- 
night.   As  I  say  again,  we're  looking  at  it,  people 
are  studying  it  in  great  detail,  with  no  real 
answer  at  the  moment ;  but  there  is  no  great  concern 
at  present.     And  it  appears  that  the  worst  that 
c6Ln  happen  is  for  the  motor  switch  to  "stale"  be- 
cause of  overuse.    And  if  this  were  to  happen,  it 
would  force  us  to  go  to  man  -  manual  maJiagement  of 
the  heaters  on  the        tajik.     But  that  appears  at 

the  moment  to  be  the  worst ,  that  we  can  anticipate 
from  this  -  from  this  group  of  funnies.  Over. 

03  08  03  kO    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I  understand  that.     You  know,  I  wonder 

if  we  ought  to  stop  stirring  the  cryos  the  way 
we've  been  doing  it. 

CC  That  -  that  has  been  suggested,  but  -  but,  again, 

it ' s  not  very  cle  ELT  that  any  of  these  things  are 
terribly  correlated. 

CDR  Okay,    Also,  you  know,  if  you  want  to  reduce  the 

activity  on  that  switch  -  depending  on  how  much 
you  need  to  have  it  done  during  quiet  periods, 
such  as  eat  periods  and  things  like  that  -  we 
could  go  to  manual  operation. 

CC  Negative,  Jack,  because  the  switch  -  OMNI  Bravo, 

please,  17. 

CC  ...  If  you  poill  out  your  schematics  there,  you'll 

find  that  the  -  no  matter  what  you  do,  the  -  you 
can  turn  the  thing  off,  in  fact,  and  the  switch 
will  continue  to  operate  the  motor  switch  -  the 
pressure  switch  will  continue  to  operate  the  motor 
switch  off  the  service  module  buses.  There's 
nothing  you  can  do.    The  only  thing  you'll  do  if 
you  go  from  AUTO  to  MANUAL  or  OFF  is  you'll  keep 
the  current  from  going  to  the  heaters,  but  the 
motor  switch  will  still  operate. 


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CDR  Okay.     Thank  you  for  the  education. 

CC  And  I've  been  corrected.    The  freq.uency  of  the 

pressure  oscillation  was  more  in  the  vicinity  of 
a  cycle  every  U  or  5  seconds. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  And  7   

IjMP  Boh,  let  me  ask  a  couple  of  questions  to  make 

sure  -  - 


03  08  06  26    CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP  Make  sure  I  understand  this.     You're  not  sure 

whether  the  heater  cycling  and  the  pressure 
cycling  were  correlated.    Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

IMP  In  a  cycle  very  U  or  5  seconds ,  is  it  possible 

for  the  heaters  to  affect  the  tajik  that  fast? 

CC  That's  not  possible,  so  the  only  thing  that  really  - 

we  think  could  -  The  tank  is  too  much  of  a  heat  sink 
to  do  it  that  way.    What  may  have  happened  was  that 
if  you  set  up  an  oscillation  -  a  mechanical  oscil- 
lation in  the  tank  -  through  -  one  way  or  another, 
that  this  could  then  have  acted  back  up  on  the  motor. 
But  the  motor  switch  in  driving  the  heaters  could 
not  have  reinforced  the  oscillation  because  the 
tank  is  too  much  of  a  heat  sink. 

LMP  Okay.    When  did  you  say  this  happened  with  respect 

to  our  exercise  period? 

CG  That's  not  well  pinned  down,  17.    We  do  know  it 

hasn't  occurred  since  about  71  hours;  and  it  did 
occur  at  approximately  70  hours ,  which  was  about 
the  time  of  your  exercise  period.    But  we  haven't 
been  able  to  correlate  that  exactly  with  the  start 
of  or  the  finish  of  the  exercise  period. 


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03  08  08  56    IJ«!P  Well,  you  know  you  shoiild  be  able  to  do  that 

because  of  the  biomed  on  -  at  least  on  me,  and 
Ron  was  on,  too.    But,  as  soon  as  I  started  exer- 
cising, you  should  have  the  biomed  data  on  my 
heart  rate.    It  was  an  unscheduled  exercise  period. 
We  Just  went  into  it  before  an  eat  period  there,  I 
think.    Let  me  check  back. 

CC  Okay.    And  we  can  check  back  and  inform  you  more 

specific  on  what  the  times  were  there  in  terms  of 
your  exercise  period,  also.     I'd  like  OMNI  Charlie, 
please,  there,  17.    And  we  might  mention  that 
oscillations  like  this  have  been  seen  on  the  ground 
under  somewhat  different  circumstances,  but  oscilla- 
tions like  this  have  been  seen  on  the  ground  in 
ground  tests  previously.    And  I  might  say,  also, 
that  as  fsir  as  other  things  in  the  spacecraft  are 
concerned,  everything  looks  absolutely  normal  or 
nominal,  as  the  case  may  be,  and  in  great  shape 
and  eiaph  -  I'd  emphasize  again  that  we've  seen 
none  of  this  oscillation  again  since  71  hours. 
Over. 

IMP  Okay,  Bob.    That  was,  as  you  say,  pretty  close  to 

the  exercise.    I  can't  pin  it  down  in  the  checklist 
exactly,  but  it  was  somewhere  after  ALFMED  was 
complete  and  before  we  changed  that  canister.  I 
think  we  changed  that  canister  a  little  early, 
about  70:50.     So  I  think  the  medic  should  have 
pretty  good  data  on  when  we  were  exercising.  And 
the  reason  I  say  that  was  because  the  way  we  were  - 
I  was  exercising  anyway  -  I'm  sort  of  running  in 
place  against  the  LEB  and  conceivably  could  have 
gotten  an  oscillation  going  in  the  tank. 

CC  Boger.    Understand  that. 

03  08  13  55    CC  OMNI  Delta,  17 . 

CC  And,  17,  we  did  a  little  -  a  little  investigation 

of  times  down  here.    We  found  that  at  71:12  you 
were  exercising  at  130  beats  per  minute.  Jack. 
And  we  think  the  exercise  period  ended  about 
10  minutes  later  at  71:22.    The        tank  funnies 

started  at  about  71:37  with  the  pressure  switch 
shift  and  71:1|2  with  the  oscillations.     Over.  So, 
there  it's  -  oh ,  at  least  15  minutes  after  the 
exercise  period  was  over. 


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LMP  Okay.    I  just  wanted  to  clear  my  reputation,  Bob. 

Now  it's  perfectly  clean  again. 

03  08  Ih  02    CC  As  clean  as  ever,  anyway. 

CC  Okay.     17,  I  guess  we  decided  we'd  let  -  we'll  ran 

the  omnis  down  here  instead  of  having  you  guys  push 
them  all  the  time.     So  if  you'll  select  OMNI  Bravo 
at  the  present  time,  then  we'll  take  over  and  run 
the  omnis  for  you. 

IMP  Okay,  Boh.     It's  not  too  big  a  deal.     If  anytime 

you  think  you  want  to  talk  to  us  continuously,  go 
ahead  and  call  them,  if  we're  not  busy. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    Let  us  know  when  you're  ready. 

I've  got  a  pad  here  for  you  guys  to  copy,  hut 
there's  no  big  hurry  on  it.    Finish  your  eat  period 
and  give  us  a  call. 

LMP  Okay.     I'll  be  with  you  in  about  5  minutes. 

CC  Say  again  there,  17. 

LMP  Be  right  with  you.  Bob. 

CC  All  right. 

03  08  15  36    CDR  And,  looking  at  the  Flight  Plan,  we're  going  to  go 

ahead  and  change  a  canister;  and  we've  got  the 


purge  LINE  HEATERS,  ON.    We're  going  to  configure 
for  the  urine  d\amp.    We'll  go  ahead  and  do  our  - 
stop  our  PTC  at  83:30,  and  then  we'll  do  our  P52. 


CC  Roger.    Copy  that. 

CC 


And,  17,  that  P52  at  83:10  was  primarily  intended 
for  the  MCC-ll.  There's  some  more  following,  any- 
way, before  LOT.  So  we  suggest  you  scrub  the  P52 
at  83:10. 

CMP  Okay,  fine.    I  may  just  do  a  little  OJT  without 

torquing. 

CC  That's  your  business. 


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03  08  17  ho  CDR 

CC 
CDR 

CC 
CDR 
LMP 
CC 

CC 

03  08  21  Ul  LMP 

CC 
LMP 

CC 
LMP 

CC 
LMP 


Bob,  when  we  come  out  of 
go  right  to  the  SIM  door 

That's  affirmative,  IT. 


PTC ,  then  you  want  us  to 
jett  attitude? 


Okay,  and  you  weint  us  to  do  that  about  8o  -  83:30, 
huh? 

Roger.    That's  affirm. 
Okay. 

Bob,  what  pad  are  you  going  to  give  me? 

Okay,  I've  got  a  -  coming  up,  pericynthion  -  plus- 
2-hour  abort  pad  here. 

17 »  Houston. 

Yes ,  Bob .    Here ' s  17 .    Say ,  for  a  while  here ,  why 
don't  you  guys  go  ahead  and  manage  the  oranis.  I 
think  we  can  get  things  done  a  little  better;  and 
when  it  becomes  inconvenient  for  us  to  switch,  we' 
let  you  know. 

Okay.     You  want  xis  to  call  them  to  you  -  Is  that 
what  you're  saying  by  you  manag  -  we  manage  the 
omnis? 

Yes,  we  lose  5  or  10  minutes  going  around  here 
without  comm,  and  it  usually  breaks  up  seemingly 
when  somebody  has  something  to  say,  either  you  or 
us. 

Roger.    Okay.    That's  fine.  Standby. 

That's  up  to  you  guys,  but,  it  seems  to  me,  it 
wo\ild  be  more  convenient . 

Okay;  things  aj:e  good  now.  Jack.  Do  you  want  to 
copy  this  pericynthion-plus-2  pad  at  the  present 
time? 

Yes,  I'm  just  about  ready.  Bob. 


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CC  Okay,  give  me  a  call  when  you  get  it.    And,  while 

you're  getting  ready  there,  you  might  think  back 
to  yesterday  afternoon  Just  after  the  exercise 
period;  and  the  question  that's  raised  is  whether 
you  were  running  the  DAC  or  some  other  miscella- 
neous equipment  at  that  time  which  might  have 
caused  some  high  current  usage  -  or  erratic  current 
usage. 

LMP  We'll  think  about  that,  Bob;  but,  offhand,  none  of 

us  can  remember  doing  anything  like  that. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

03  08  26  IT    CC  OMNI  Charlie,  1?. 

CC  And,  17,  your  faithful  nigjit  shift  capcomm  is 

signing  off.     I'll  talk  to  you  on  the  surface 
tomorrow.     Good  luck. 

CDR  Thank  you,  Robert.    Looking  forward  to  seeing  you 

there . 

LMP  Are  you  leaving  us ,  Bob? 

CC  That's  affirm;  he's  already  left, 

03  08  28  02    LMP  Boy,  he  doesn't  stick  around  long,  does  he?  And 

he  wanted  to  read  that  pad  to  me;  well,  that's  too 
bad.    Okay,  Gordy,  I  can  take  the  pad  now. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    It's  pericynthion  plus  2;  SPS/G&N. 

Weight  is  66373;  plus  l.l8,  minus  O.lU;  ignition 
time  is  090:1+9:55.82;  plus  1787.5,  minus  1891-7, 
minus  2396.8;  attitude  is  237,  126,  332;  and  all 
the  rest  of  the  PAD  is  NA.    GDC  align  stars  are 
Sirius  and  Rigel;  122;  35^;  000.    Ullage  is  none. 
Remarks:    number  1,  burn  docked;  number  2,  assumes 
LOI  REFSMMAT.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.     Pericynthion  plus  2,  SPS/G&N;  66373,  1  - 

plus  1.18,  minus  O.lk;  090:1+9:55.82;  plus  IT87.5, 
minus  I891.7,  minus  2396.8;  237,  126,  332;  rest  of 
pad  is  NA;  Sirius  and  Rigel;  122;  35I+ ;  000.  No 
ullage.    Remark  1,  burn  docked;  2  is  LOI  REFSMMAT 
assiamed. 


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CC  That's  correct. 

03  08  30  h9    CC  Need  OMNI  Delta  now. 

03  08  31  hi    CMP  Houston,  17.    Canister  change  complete. 

CC  Okay. 

03  08  35  10    CC  America,  switch  to  OMNI  Alfa. 

03  08  37  38    CC  America,  Houston.    I  have  the  morning  news  at  the 

convenient  time. 

LMP  Fire  away,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay,  first  of  all  the  weather.     It's  raining 

fairly  -  fairly  heavily  all  night;  there's  a  lot 
of  water  standing  around.     Temperatixres  here  are 
in  the  high  50 's,  "but  it's  supposed  to  get  a  little 
cooler  tonight  with  a  low  in  the  UO's.     I  think 
you  know  how  the  Dallas-Redskin  game  came  out  -  the 
only  thing  additional  mentioned  here  is  that  chances 
look  good  now  that  Washington  and  Dallas  may  meet 
in  the  rubber  games  for  the  National  Conference 
representative  in  the  Super  Bowl.     In  the  other 
pro  game  yesterday,  a  field  goal  by  Don  Cockroft 
was  the  difference  in  a  26-to-2l+  win  by  Cleveland 
over  rival  Cincinnati .    Other  sports  highlights : 
The  Pittsburgh  Steelers  play  the  Oilers  today  in 
the  Dome.    Other  big  games  will  be  Atlanta  at  San 
Francisco,  Green  Bay  at  Minnesota,  and  Baltimore 
at  Kansas  City.    Tennessee  State  beat  Drake  Uni- 
versity in  the  Pioneer  Bowl  29  to  7.    And  East 
Texas  State  beat  Carson  Newman  in  the  NAIA  football 
playoffs.    The  Southwest  Conference  has  pulled  out 
of  the  U.S.  Olympic  Committee.     Some  college 
basketball  scores:    The  Houston  Cougars  routed 
Xavier  last  night  out  at  Hofheinz  Pavilion  111;  to 
73;  and  Rice  downed  George  Washington  93  to  89, 
Geno,  you'll  be  glad  to  hear  Purdue  ripped  TCU 
101  to  70,  and  it  was  Texas  over  Oklahoma  State 
86  to  66.    And  SMU  over  Oklahoma  City  106  to  83. 
We  couldn't  find  any  score  at  Cal  Tech,  Jack,  but  - 
Switch  to  OMNI  Bravo,  please.     But  one  final  score, 
Ron,  Kansas  lost  to  Iowa  69  to  56.     The  only  thing 
new  on  the  plane  crash  Friday  in  Chicago  -  it's 
reported  here  that  the  plane  was  apparently  waved 


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off  because  another  plane  was  still  on  the  assigned 
roonway.    The  Democratic  Party's  stormy  session 
in  Washington  saw  the  old-guard  Democrats  appar- 
ently take  back  control  of  the  Party  from  pro- 
McGovern  forces.    Mrs.  Jean  Westwood  was  replaced 
as  Party  Chairman  by  Texas  lawyer/businessman 
Robert  Strauss.    Former-president  Truman  appears 
to  be  more  than  holding  his  own  at  a  hospital  in 
Kansas  City.    There's  a  good  chance  the  88-year- 
old  former  Chief  Executive  may  be  taken  off  the 
critical  list.    There's  been  a  1-day  interruption 
in  the  secret  peace  talks  between  Dr.  Henry 
Kissinger  and  Le  Due  Tho,    The  two  conferred  for 
over  3  hours  yesterday.    Both  sides  have  agreed 
not  to  talk  to  newsmen  on  any  svibstantive  matters. 
In  other  news  highlights.  President  Nixon  has 
named  Daniel  Moynihan  as  U.S.  Ambata  -  Ambassador 
to  India.    And  Chilean  President  Allende  has  flown 
to  Cuba  to  vis  -  to  visit  Fidel  Castro.  Here's 
an  interesting  one.    A  U5-year-old  pilot  lost  in 
the  Arctic  for  31  days  has  been  found  alive  and  well. 
Three  companions  were  killed.     The  Soviet  Party 
boss  Leonid  Breshnev  has  delayed  a  scheduled  visit 
to  the  U.S.    It  looks  as  if  the  visit  may  come  in 
the  fall  rather  than  this  coming  spring.     One  last 
note:    The  news  media  says  that  the  flight  of 
Apollo  IT  is  the  smoothest  on  record  so  far,  and 
I  call  that  last  one  pretty  accurate  reporting. 
Over. 

Thank  you,  Gordo,  appreciate  the  news.  Sounds 
like  things  are  still  happening  down  there. 


CC 


Got  some  more  parochial  news  here  -  - 


LMP 


Houston,  we're  starting  our  - 


CC 


Go  ahead. 


03  08  U2  hh  LMP 


No,  we  just  -  I  just  wanted  to  tell  you  we're 
starting  ovoc  waste  dumps . 


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Okay.    A  little  more  parochial  news.     I  have  your 
oxygen  consumable  status  here.     Tank  1  is  still 
running  k  percent  helow  the  line;  the  other  two 
are  right  on  the  line;  really  no  news  there. 
Same  with  the  hydrogen;  all  three  are  essentially 
right  on  the  pref light  lines.  Over. 


LMP  Okay,  that's  the  way  like  to  hear  it. 

LMP  We'll  bring  all  of  it  home  if  we  can. 

CC  Okay. 

03  08  kk  08    CC  We'd  like  OMNI  Charlie,  please. 

03  08  U8  k9    CC  Need  OMNI  Delta  now. 

h9  08    CMP  Okay,  Gordy.    How  would  you  like  a  hydrogen  p\rrge 

this  morning? 

CC  ...  make  sure. 

CMP  Go  ahead,  Houston;  17. 

17,  we  do  want  the  hydrogen  pturge;  go  ahead. 


CC 


CMP  Okay,  hydrogen  piorge  is  in  process.    You'd  never 

believe  it ,  dust  collection  container  assembly 
serial  number  5725  developed  a  hole  in  it. 
Fortunately,  with  a  lot  of  dexterity,  I  was  able 
to  put  a  piece  of  tape  over  the  hole. 

CC  Okay.     I  guess  that's  why  we  sent  men  into  space. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Hight . 


Gordy,  while  the  purges  are  going  on  here,  I  might 
mention,  a  little  while  ago,  I  looked  at  the  Earth 
through  a  Polaroid  colored  glass  again  and  had  a 
full  view  of  Africa.    And  it  appeared  as  if,  in  the 
red  and  yellow  portions  of  Africa,  that  the  land 
areas  darkened  considerably  more  than  those  areas 
that  are  green  or  foliated,  and  that  would  be  the 
central  portion;  that  is,  they  darkened  with  the 
orien  -  handle  on  the  lens  going  in  a  north-south 
rather  than  east-west. 


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CC  Roger. 

LMP  The  land  areas,  though,  still  do  not  show  as  marked 

a  contrast  as  do  the  oceans. 

CC  Roger. 

03  08  53  21    CC  We'd  like  OMNI  Alfa. 

LMP  Okay,  hydrogen  purge  is  complete.    HEATER  is  going 

OFF, 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  Gordy,  it  looks  like  the  cloudiness  and  possibly 


the  showers  associated  with  the  intertropical  con- 
vergence over  Africa  are  moving  as  far  south  as 
Johanneshurg  right  now.     It's  quite  a  distinct 
change  from  even  an  -  aji  hour  or  so  ago  -  a  couple 
of  hours  ago.     They're  down  into  an  area  where, 
presumably,  they're  not  normally  found  if  vegetation 
indications  are  any  criteria.    And  also,  in  the 
Atlantic  -  South  Atlajitic  near  Goa  Island,  there 
seems  to  be  a  possible  storm  developing  as  part  of 
what  was  probably  now  a  fairly  weak  front.  And 
whether  or  not  that  will  develop  into  anything  and 
move  in  towards  Capetown  is  hard  to  say  at  this 
time . 


CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  It  looks  as  if  our  old  friends  at  Ascension  are 

enjoying  a  fairly  nice  day  out  there. 

CC  Roger, 

03  08  57  hh    CC  OMNI  Bravo,  please. 

CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    We  recall  you  mentioning 

the  purge  complete  and  the  heaters  off.    We  just 


wanted  to  be  sure  that  you  did  leave  the  H^  purge 

line  heaters  on  for  10  minutes  after  terminating 
the  purge.  Over. 


LMP 


Thank  you,  Gordy,     I'll  turn  them  back  on. 


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CC  Okay. 


LMP 


LMP 


CC 


LMP 
CC 
LMP 


Who's  sitting  over  there  reminding  me  of  all  these 
good  things  this  morning? 


CC  Well,  that  was  a  combination  effort  by  John  Aaron 

and  Charlie  Dumis. 


Wow!     You've  got  a  real  powerful  team  there, 


CC  Youhet. 


LMP 


Hey,  you  really  ought  to  get  them  a  cup  of  coffee 
though  sometime  this  morning. 

LMP  Gordy,  also  curious  who's  wa  -  who's  watching 

Challenger  this  morning? 

CC  Well,  let's  see, 

LMP  Not  much  to  see,  I  realize,  but  I'm  sure  somebody's 

there, 

03  09  02  36    CC  We  need  OMNI  Charlie,  Jack. 


Well,  we've  got  the  first  team  on  -  the  gold  team  - 
your  LOI  and  landing  team,  and  the  LM  guys  are 
Merritt  and  Thorson. 


LMP  You  cut  out  on  the  telmu.    Who  is  it? 

CC  Merlin.    Merlin  the  Magician. 

LMP  I'm  sorry,  Gordy,  you  clipped  off  the  first  again. 

CC  Merlin  Merritt,  the  magician. 

Oh,  yes;  of  course.  As  I  recall,  he's  the  only  one 
that  really  understands  Thorson. 


He  says  he  doesn't  think  anybody  understands 
Thorson . 

Well,  we're  sure  looking  forward  to  having  a 
chance  to  make  those  guys  work  a  little  bit. 


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CC  They  say  -  well  -  Merlin  says  he  is,  too.     I  don't 

know  about  Thorson,    He's  out  of  the  room  at  the 
moment . 


LMP  He's  probahly  spilling  coffee  in  SPAM. 

CC  Roger . 

03  09  06  31    CC  We  need  OMNI  Delta  now. 

03  09  08  hk    LMP  Gordy,  for  some  reason,  it's  a  lot  easier  to  tell 

the  difference  between  the  Antarctic  Continent  and 
the  icepack. 


CC  Roger. 

LMP  Maybe  the  glancing  Sun  is  picking  up  the  breaks 

in  the  icepack  and  giving  it  a  different  appearance. 

CC  Roger . 

03  09  09  32    LMP  The  continent  itself  -  all  you  can  see  are  very  - 

what  appear  to  be  very  gentle  differences  in  -  or 
subtle  differences  in  shading,  possibly  indicating 
rolling  relief  due  to  a  photometric  dark  beam  along 
the  -  as  a  function  of  local  phase  angle. 


CC  Copy. 

LMP  And  except,  maybe,  for  the  area  Just  -  well,  no  - 

even  there,  I  didn't  the  ...  -  it  looks  like 
the  whole  visible  continent  is  clear  of  clouds  this 
morning.    Possibly  some  clouds  Just  east  of  the 
Ross  Sea,  which  is  Just  coming  into  view,  I  think. 


CC  Roger . 

LMP  I  know  we  don't  have  many 

but  it  looks  like  they're 
fine  day  over  the  portion 
see . 


listeners  in  Antarctica, 
having  a  -  exceptionally 
of  the  continent  we  can 


CC 


Roger, 


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03  09  11  20    LMP  That  weak  front  I  mentioned  in  the  South  Atlantic 

stretches  from  the  apparent  storm  center  around 
Goa  Islarid  -  I'm  not  s\ire  about  that  pronunciation 
either  -  up  just  to  the  coast  of  South  America  from 
Brazil,  where  it  reaches  its  maximum  eastward 
extent . 


CC  Roger . 

LMP  Our  suh  -  o^xr  zero-phase  point  of  the  spacecraft 

is  in  the  middle  of  the  South  Atlantic.     And  it's 
moderately  bright,  although  there  is  no  central 
bright  point  at  all  -  a  fairly  large  area,  but 
moderately  bright.    The  seas  down  there  might  be 
moderately  choppy  or  rough  this  morning. 


CC  Okay. 
03  09  ih  26    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go. 


LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    You  might  say  "uh"  before  you  -  you 

start  your  sentences  because  you're  clipping  your 
first  word.    The  question  I  had  was  the  pan 
camera  -  we're  on  1-6  of  the  Experiments  Checklist 
and  need  your  word  on  whether  you  want  the  PAN 
CAMERA,  OFF,  at  this  time  -  SELF  TEST,  OFF. 

CC  Stand  by. 

CC  We'd  like  you  to  leave  it  in  HEATERS. 

03  09  15  20    LMP  Okay,  we're  leaving  it  in  HEATERS. 

03  09  16  38    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    The  S-BAOT)  AUX,  TV  is  to  SCIENCE  -  - 

CC  Roger . 

03  09  16  U5    LMP   and  I'm  turning  the  IR,  ON. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Jack,  we'd  like  OMNI  Alfa. 

LMP  How  do  you  read  on  OMNI  Alfa? 


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CC  Okay;  you're  readable,  fair  amoiint  of  noise. 

03  09  17  29    IMP  Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    You're  clear  with  consider- 

able noise.  Over. 

03  09  18  35    LMP  HoTiston,  how  do  you  read  17? 

CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.    Still  reading  you  with  a  lot 

of  backgroTind  noise.  Over. 

03  09  19  03    LMP  Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  IT,  Houston.    Weak  but  readable. 

03  09  19  13    LMP  Okay,  we'll  have  you  up  on  your  high  gain  pretty 

soon.    I'm  turning  the  IR,  ON, 

CC  Roger;  Roger;  Roger.    IR,  OK. 

LMP  Say  again,  Gordy. 

CC  We  copy.     IR,  ON.  Over. 

03  09  19  56    CC  America,  we'll  take  the  high  gain  now.  PITCH, 

minus  15;  YAW,  l88.  Over. 

03  09  21  05    CC  America,  Houston.    Let's  try  the  high  gain  now. 

I  see  you're  moving  it.    Minus  26  and  199. 

LMP  Okay,  I  think  we've  got  a  main  load  block  now  on 

the  high  gain .     How  do  you  read? 

CC  You're  loud  and  clear.  Jack.    It  looks  good  here. 

03  09  21  31    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    Let  me  keep  going  here.     I  did  not 

turn  the  IR  on  because  I  thought  you  said  some- 
thing.    IR  is  going  ON  now. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  56/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

03  09  21  U3    CMP  Roger.     I  thought  you  said  something.     IR's  going 

ON  now. 

CC  Okay.    What  I  said  is,  "Roger.     IR,  ON." 

03  09  21  51    CMP  Coming  on.    MAPPING  CAMERA  going  to  STANDBY. 

03  09  22  06    CC  Okay;  STANDBY  on  the  MAP  CAMERA. 

CMP  Okay.    I'm  waiting  yovir  cue  for  PAN  CAMERA  POWER, 

to  POWER. 

CC  Roger.    We're  still  locking  up  on  the  data.  We'll 

give  you  a  cue. 

03  09  23  3k    CC  Okay,  Jack.    You  have  our  cue  for  PAN  CAMERA  POWER 

to  POWER. 

03  09  23  51    CMP  Okay.     PAN  CAMERA  going  to  POWER - 

03  09  2k  13    CMP  Okay,  Gordo.    We're  in  the  SIM  hay  door  Jett 

attitude . 

CC  Roger . 

03  09  26  IT    CMP  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  going  to  BOOST. 

CC  Roger. 

03  09  29  Ik    CMP  Oh,  down  there.  Oh. 

CMP  Me  to  you. 

03  09  30  06    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    I'm  in  VOX  now.    Do  you  read? 

CC  Yes,  sir.     You're  loud  and  clear. 

03  09  30  16    CMP  Okay.    On  panel  I81,  the  LOGIC  POWER  MAIN  A, 

MAIN  B  circuit  breakers  are  CLOSED. 

CC  Roger. 


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03  09  30  26    CMP  Okay.    LOGIC  POWER  number  1  is  going  to  JETT, 

number  2  to  JETT.     Standing  by  for  your  GO, 
Houston. 

CC  Okay.    Stand  by. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  America,  you're  -  - 

CMP  What  happens  now  is  -  - 

03  09  30  U8    CC  -  -  GO  to  jett  the  SIM  bay  door. 

CMP  Okay,  Jack,  let  me  know  when  you've  got  the  camera 

ready. 

03  09  31  02    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    You  say  we  are  GO  to  Jett  the  SIM 

bay  down  a  little  early,  huh? 

CC  Well,  stand  by.     I  think  we're  backing  down  here. 

Stand  by  1  second. 

CDR  Okay. 

03  09  31  39    CMP  No.     I  checked  it  at  one  frame, 

CDR  Might  check  it. 

03  09  31  h6    CC  Okay,  America.     Once  again,  you're  GO  to  jett  the 

door,  6Lnd  you  can  do  it  early,  if  you  wish. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    We'll  do  it  on  -  on  Ron's  mark  down 

there. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  Hey,  Houston.     You  know  this  attitude  -  this  at- 

titude has  the  Sun  right  into  window  5.  It's 
probably  going  to  be  on  the  lens  of  the  camera. 
I'll  -  I'll  try  to  shade  it  the  best  I  can,  but  I 
don't  have  an  awful  lot  of  hope  for  these  pictures. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  I  think  we're  probably  stuck  with  it.  Jack,  because 

we  need  to  be  in. this  right  attitude,  for  the 
clearance  and  - 


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CMP  Okay.    SIM  door  jett  5,  1+,  3,  2,  1  - 

03  09  32  51    CMP  JETT.    Oh,  I  got  a  good  bang.    You  see  it.  Jack? 

03  09  33  00    MP  Houston,  there  it  goes,  I  got  it  out  the  hatch 

■window  and  it  looks  like  it  was  a  clean  Jett. 
It's  rolling  and  pitching  and  yawing,  slightly. 
There  is  a  lot  of  garbage  that  came  out  with  it. 

CMP  Can  you  take  a  picture.  Gene? 

CDR  Let  me  see  it. 

CMP  Ah  -  ah  (laughter). 

CDR  You  take  a  picture.    Yes,  there  it  goes. 

CDR  Hello,  Hoiiston.    How  do  you  read? 

CMP  It's  really   

CC  Sounded  good. 

CDR  Okay.     Did  you  get  the  word  we  got  a  clean  Jett? 

CC  That's  right,  Geno.    Sounds  good. 

03  09  33  56    CDR  Okay.    The  door's  moving  -  the  door's  moving  di- 

rectly away  from  us ,  mostly  rolling .    And  it  looks 
like  it  was  a  very  clean  -  clean  separation. 

CC  Oke^. 

CMP  Yes.    Boy,  we  got  a  good  bang  out  of  it.    You  could 

hear  that  -  that  pyro  going,  I  think.  It's  rotating 
at  about  5  -  or  1  revolution  per  5  seconds . 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  And  it's  rotating  -  what,  about  the  long  axis? 

Yes .    Rotating  about  the  long  axis . 

03  09  3^  58    CDR  Houston,  the  garbage  that  I  said  went  with  it  was 

Just  a  small  amount  of  debris,  I'm  sure  around  the 
seaJ.ant  pyro  area.    There  was  one,  oh,  about  a 
U-foot-length  piece  of ,  oh,  1  or  2  inch  tapelike 
material  that  also  went  out  with  it. 


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CC  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    What  do  we  do  with  these  LOGIC 

POWER  switches?    Don't  they  go  back  to  OFF  now? 

03  09  35  28    CMP  DOOR  JETT's  OFF,  down. 

03  09  35  32    CMP  Okay.     You  go  on  to  the  DEPLOY/RETRACT  on  number  1. 

03  09  35  35    CMP  DEPLOY /RETRACT  on  number  2. 

03  09  35  1*3    CDR  FUEL  CELL  REACT  VALVES  are  NORMAL.     I'm  sort  of 

glad  we  had  those  in  LATCH. 


CMP 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


Yes,  me,  too,  because  that's  a  pretty  good  bang. 


03  09  36  25    CC  You've  loaded  the  wrong  pitch  angle  there  in 

NOUN  22. 


Well,  I'm  -  I  got  10  degrees  loaded;  that's  what 
we've  got  copied  down  here  in  the  change. 

Maybe  there's  some  mistake.    Let  us  check  here, 
Geno. 

Okay,  we  got  320,  010,  and  32i*,  and  before  I  go 
into  the  muver  -  maneuver,  I'll  roll  right  about 
12  degrees . 

Bad  call,  Gene.    Our  error;  you're  right. 


CDR  Thank  you,  sir. 

CMP  Okay,  and  the  UV  SPECTROMETER  is  going  to  go  ON 

here. 

03  09  3T  32    CMP  MAEK  it. 

CC  Roger.    Mark  the  UV. 

LMP  Okay,  and  the  IR  will  be  OFF  on  your  cue. 


CC 


Okay,  Jack,  that'll  be  12  or  15  minutes  from  now. 


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LMP  Okay,  Just  give  us  a  call. 

03  09  39  ^1    liMP  Okay,  the  100-WATT  Op  HEATER  circuit  breaker's 

coming  OPEN. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

03  09  ho  Ik    LMP  Okay,  0^  HEATERS  1  and  2  going  to  AUTO,  and  3,  OFF. 

CC  Roger . 

03  09  hi  51    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    We'll  wait  until  50  past  the  hour  and 

pick  up  the  LM/CM  DELTA-P;  we're  still  reading  0.6. 

CC  Roger.    That  sounds  good. 

03  09  h2  09    CDR  And  we're  in  the  process  of  maneuvering  and  I 

guess  I'll  start  to  see  if  I  can't  get  you  some 
biomeds . 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  I  don't  know  whether  you  were  watching  the  LMP  on 

the  door  jett,  did  you  see  a  Jett  on  my  heartbeat? 

CC  Well,  we'll  check  this  data  here,  Jack. 

LMP  I  guess  I  was  remembering  erroneously  15 's  comment 

that  it  was  very  quiet ,  but  I  -  of  course ,  Ron 
reminded  me  they  were  in  the  suits. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    John  Young  was  talking  about  the 

same  thing  here,  but  we  didn't  see  anything  on 
your  EKG. 

LMP  How  stable  could  you  get? 

03  09  *+3  29    CMP  And  Houston,  IT  here,    Mag  Bravo  Bravo  is  indicat- 

ing 20  -  let's  see  -  indicating  76  percent  now  - 
76-percent  full. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CDR  And,  Gordo,  we  are  watching  the  8-baJ.l. 


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CC 


CC 
LMP 


CC 
IMP 


CC 


LMP 


LMP 
CC 


LMP 


Roger.    We're  keeping  an  eye  on  it,  too, 


03  09  53  05    CC  America,  we'd  like  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO,  please. 

03  09  53  15    LMP  Okay,  you've  got  it  to  AUTO.     I  think  we  may  have 

a  new  discovery  about  microphones  up  here. 

Oh,  is  that  right?    What's  that? 

Well,  Gordy,  it  looks  as  if  you  could  improve  yo\ir 
voice  quality  hy  putting  fingers  over  the  end  of 
the  mike  booms.    At  least  that  works  on  the 
intercom. 

CC  How  about  that. 


America,  Houston.  We're  reac^  for  the  IR  to  OFF. 
Okay.     IR's  coming  OFF  - 


03  09  55  31    IMP  MARK  it. 

03  09  57  16    IMP  Hey,  Gordy.    Who's  operating  in  the  trench  in  front 

of  you  today? 


Okay.     It's  the  LOI  and  descent  team,  Presley, 
Green,  and  Deiterich. 

They're  a  trio  of  musketeers,  if  I  ever  heard  of 
one. 


CC  Roger. 


All  they  lack  is  a  French  accent. 

A  New  York  accent  is  about  the  best  they  can  do. 

LMP  I  wasn't  going  to  exercise  any  value  judgments, 

Gordy. 

03  10  00  57    CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.     I  have  a  preliminary  LOI 

pad  anytime  it's  convenient. 


Okay,  Gordy.     I  was  just  checking  to  see  if  I 
could  find  the  Moon,  and  I  still  can't  see  it  out 
there . 


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I ' 11  he  vith  you  in  30  seconds . 
Okay. 

Okay,  Gordy.    Go  ahead. 

Okay.    This  is  a  preliminary  LOI,  SPS/G&N. 
6636I;  plus  1.21,  minus  0.12;  O88: 5it: 22. Tl; 
minus  2798.8,  plus  10^5.7,  minus  0037-3.  Attitude 
is  all  zeros.  is  0170. 1,  plus  0052.5;  2988. 0, 

6:38,  2981.7;  sextant  star  1*5,  252.1,  13.5-  Bore- 
sight  star  and  all  the  rest  is  NA.     GDC  align 
stars:     Sirius  and  Rigel;  122;  35l*;  000.  Ullage, 
none .    Remarks ;    LM  weight ,  36312 ;  and  single-hank 
bum  time  is  06:51.    Go  ahead. 

Okay.     Preliminary  LOI,  SPS/G&N.     6636I;  plus  1.21, 
minus  0.12;  088:5^:22.71;  minus  2798.8  plus  10^5.7, 
minus  0037.3.    All  zeros;  all  zeros;  all  zeros; 
0170.1,  plus  0052.5;  2988.0,  6:38,  2981.7;  i*5, 
252.1,  13.5.    Set  stars  are  Sirius  ajid  Rigel; 
122;  35^;  000.    No  ullage.    LM  weight  is  36312, 
and  single-bank  burn  time  is  06:51. 

One  correction  on  the  ignition  time.    The  seconds 
are  22.77. 

Okay,  22.77. 

That's  affirmative;  otherwise,  good  readback. 

Okay,  Houston.  At  81+:  1+5,  we've  got  about  2-1/2  to 
3  minutes  Eind  1  frame  a  second  on  mag  Bravo  Bravo, 
through  the  celestial  adapter  of  the  Eeirth. 

Okay,  Ron.    We  caught  that.    And  if  you're  looking 
for  the  Moon,  according  to  our  figures  here,  it 
should  be  visible  out  window  number  1  about  30  de- 
grees off  the  boresight  axis.  Over. 

Okay,  got  you.     I'll  try  again. 

America,  Houston.     I'm  ready  with  a  TEI-l*  pad 
anytime  it ' s  convenient . 


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CMP  Stand  by. 

03  10  13  36    CMP  Okay,  Gordy,  I'm  ready  for  a  TEI-1+  pad. 

CC  Okeydoke.     It's  TEI-U,  SPS/G&N;  J+DO9O;  plus  O.5O, 

plus  l.lT.     Ignition  time  is  097:20:1+7.^5,    NOUN  8I, 
plus  2OOU.8,  minus  2951.1,  minus  15^7-3;  attitude 
will  be  202,  O83,  312.    Rest  of  the  pad  is  NA. 
GDC  align  stars  are  Slrius  and  Rigel;  133;  200;  030. 
Ullage:     four  jets,  12  seconds.     And  remark  num- 
ber 1:    burn  undocked;  number  2:     assumes  no  DOI ; 
number  3:    assumes  landing  site  REFSMMAT;  number  U; 
with  the  LOI  REFSMMAT,  your  attitude  will  be: 
roll,  180 ;  pitch,  220;  yaw,  38  -  correction  - 
yaw  is  338.  Over. 

03  10  16  Ik    CMP  Okay,  TEI-U,  SPS/G&N;  UOO9O;  plus  O.5O,  plus  1.17; 

097:20:147.^^5;  plus  200U.8,  minus  2951.1, 
minus  15'+7.3;  202,  O83,  312.    Rest  of  pad  NA. 
Sirius  and  Rigel;  133;  200;  030.    Four  Jets, 
12-8econd  ullage.    Remark  1:    bum  undocked; 
2:    no  DOI  assumed;  3:    landing  site  REFSMMAT; 
k:    LOI  REFSMMAT  attitude  I80,  220,  338.  Over. 

CC  Okay.     That's  a  good  readback. 

03  10  19  28    CC  America,  Houston.    If  you  give  us  ACCEPT,  we'll 

pop  up  a  state  vector  -  a  preliminary  state  vector 
and  a  VERB  66,  preliminary  target  load,  and  an  LOI 
REFSMMAT.  Over. 

03  10  19  1+3    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    You  have  it. 

03  10  21  01    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    This  is  America.     How  do  you  read 

the  commander  on  biomed? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  take  a  look  here. 

03  10  22  kh    CC  America,  Houston.    Looking  at  the  0^  pressiires ,  we 

think  maybe  TANK  3  ISOL  VALVE  got  jarred  closed. 
Would  you  check  the  barber  pole  over  on  panel  278. 
If  it's  barber  pole,  would  you  reopen  the  valve? 


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03  10  23  01    LMP  Gordy,  ve  checked  that.    I'll  check  it  again.  We 

checked  it  right  after  the  jet, 

03  10  23  16    LMP  And,  Gordy,  it's  gray.    Would  you  like  me  to  cycle 

it? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Jack.    Go  ahead  and  cycle  it 

OPEN. 

03  10  23  39    IiMP  Okay.    That's  "been  done. 

CC  Roger. 

03  10  2k  08    CC  America,  Houston.     It's  your  computer.     You  can  go 

back  to  BLOCK. 

03  10  2h  17    CMP  Okay,  we're  back  to  BLOCK.    In  the  DELTA-V  test, 

I  got  a  minus  22.0,  and  I'm  on  a  bias  check  right 
now. 

CC  Roger. 

03  10  26  36    CC  America,  Houston,    The  biomed  looks  good  on  all 

three  of  you. 

CDR  Okay. 

03  10  27  01    CMP  And  the  null  bias  check,  on  a  plus  100,  it  went 

to  100. U.     I'm  working  on  a  minus  now. 

CC  Okay,  sounds  good. 

03  10  28  18    CMP  Okay.     The  minus  100,  it  ended  up  minus  99.5- 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

03  10  30  38    CMP  Gordy,  the  EMERGENCY  CABIN  PRESSURE  REGs  are  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

03  10  30  59    CMP  Okay,  EQUALIZATION  valve  in  the  tunnel  has  come 

OPEN. 

CC  Roger. 


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03  10  33  10    CMP  Okay»  Gordy,  the  LM  TUNNEL  valve  is  in  LM  PRESS, 

and  EQUALIZATION  valve  is  CLOSED. 

CC  Roger.    And  was  it  a  0.6  DELTA-P  when  you  started 

this,  as  before? 

03  10  33  28    CMP  That's  affirm.    It  was  0.6  and  now  it's  down  to  - 

we  heen  seeing  it  as  ahout  0.1. 

CC  Roger. 

03  10  33  55    CMP  And,  Gor^,  I've  got  the  EMERGENCY  CABIN  PRESSURE 

REGs  back  to  BOTH. 

CC  Roger. 

03  10  37         UiP  Okay,  Gordy,  we're  changing  mags  on  the  -  the 

EL  camera,  and  mag  November  November  is  being 
stowed  with  59  frames  on  it  -  or  59  frames 
used  -  159. 

CC  Okay,  Jack;  copy. 

03  10  38  27    CMP  Gordy,  you  can  record  that  as  the  second  commander's 

P52  that  came  up  all  balls. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  get  a  hard  copy. 

03  10  39  OI+    CC  •  Okay,  we  got  the  93s;  you're  clear  to  torque. 


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Tape  57/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 

03  10  57  35    CDR  Okay,  Gordo,  there's  the  gyro  torque  angles. 

CO  OkEQT,  we're  copying  them  down.    Stand  by. 

03  10  58  07    CO  Okay,  Geno;  torque  them. 

03  11  32  17    CO  America,  Houston.    America,  Houston.    We've  lost 

the  high  gain  and  data.     Go  on  OMNI  Alfa. 

CC  America,  Houston  in  the  hlind.     Go  OMNI  Alfa,  if 

you  read. 

CC  America,  this  is  Houston.    How  do  you  copy? 

03  11  33  29    LMP  Clear,  and  we're  OMNI  Alfa.    If  you  don't  answer 

this  transmission,  we'll  try  the  high  gain  again. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We're  reading  you  now.    I  heard  you 

say  OMNI  Alfa.    Say  again  the  first  part, 

LMP  Roger.    We've  heen  reading  you.     I  think  you're 

on  VHF,  however.  Would  you  like  us  to  reacquire 
on  the  high  gain? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  check  on  that. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,    We'd  like  you  to  try  the  HIGH  GAIN 

at  a  PITCH  of  minus  29,  YAW  17,  MANUAL  and  WIDE. 

03  11  3h  27    LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  we're  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP  How  do  you  read? 

CC  I'm  reading  you  -  I  can  read  you,  but  there's 

still  a  lot  of  background  noise. 

LMP  Like  VHF  would  so\md,  but  I'm  not  sure  I  believe 

it. 

03  11  35  29    CC  Jack,  we  just  commanded  NORMAL  voice. 


Gordy,  did  we  end  up  somehow  out  of  NORMAL  voice? 

Jack,  we'd  like  you  to  try  a  NORMAL  acquisition. 
Go  AUTO  and  NARROW  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

Okay,  that  peaked  it  up,  AUTO  and  NARROW. 

Okay,  you're  loud  and  clear  now. 

Okay,  Gordy,    You  said  that  you  had  to  command 
NORMAL  voice.    Did  we  get  a  spurious  command  in 
there  some  way? 

Okay,  we  had  -  we  did  all  that  ourselves  to  es- 
tablish voice  through  Ascension;  no  problem.  Over. 

Okay,  Gordy.  How  did  you  reach  us  when  you  finally 
started  calling? 

Stand  by. 

Jack,  we  didn't  do  anything  to  cause  the  problem 
there,  we  were  up-linking  through  Madrid  and  down- 
linking through  Ascension.    Did  you  see  anything 
on  board  that  could  have  caused  the  loss  of  lock? 

No,  sir.    We  had  good  signal  strength.     It  wasn't 
peaked  for  the  high  gain.     It  was  more  like  an  omni 
signal  strength,  about  TO  percent.     And  we  called 
you  several  times  after  the  switch  in  lines,  and 
then  finally  you  CEime  through  clear,  but  with  some 
background  noise  and  sounded  like  VHF.     I  presime 
it  wasn't,  now.    And  when  you  called,  I  went  to 
OMNI  Alfa,  with  no  change  in  signsil  strength,  still 
about  70  percent,  and  you  were  still  coming  up  the 
same  way  and  apparently  didn't  hear  us.    And  then 
the  high  gain  -  with  high  gain  acquisition,  it's 
been  pretty  clear. 

Okay,  that's  the  way  -  that  story's  the  way  it 
sounded  to  us.    And  we're  looking  around  here  to 
see  if  we  can  figure  out  a  reason  for  loss  there. 

Okay,  and  I'm  ready  to  pressurize  the  SPS,  If 
that's  what  you  want. 


Tape  57/3 


CC  Okay,  let  me  make  sure  here, 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We're  ready  for  it. 

IMP  Okay,  you  want  me  to  just  use  SPS  HELIUM  VALVE  1? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

03  11  39  35    IMP  Okay,  Gordy.    We're  going  to  ON  with  SPS  HELIUM 

VALVE  1.    We  checked  the  circuit  breakers,  they're 
IN. 

CC  Okay. 

03  11  39  '^6    LMP  Okay,  pressure's  com  -  pressure's  up;  FUEL  PRESSURE 

is  stable  at  175  and  OXIDIZER  at  175,  and  the  light 
is  out.    And  we're  hack  to  NORMAL  on  CAUTION  AND 
WARNING.    And  the  VALVE  now  is  hack  to  AUTO. 

CC  Roger.    And  looks  -  looks  good  here.    We're  reading 

l8U  oxidizer  and  185  fuel. 

03  11  ho  hi    LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  this  is  the  IMP.     I  got  a  question 

for  you. 

CC  Shoot . 

LMP  I'm  Just  wondering  if  -  I'm  showing  about  85  amps, 

and  is  that  a  good  normal  power  load  with  -  I  pre- 
sume the  Og  HEATERs  are  ON  now. 

CC  Just  a  second,  we'll  check  that. 

LMP  I'm  Just  trying  to  reestablish  my  references  here 

for  LOI. 

CC  EECOM  says  the  HEATERs  are  ON  and  that's  the  normal 

load. 

03  11  hi  33    LMP  Okay.    Very  good.    Thank  you,  sir. 

03  11  k2  55    CMP  Houston,  17. 


I 


Tape  31 /h 


CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Roger.    We  got  about  an  hour  sitting  around  here. 

We  can  go  to  wide  dead  band,  if  you  want,  if  you'll 
remind  me  to  go  back  to  narrow  again  when  we  need 
to. 

CC  Let  me  check,  on  that. 

CMP  Might  save  a  teacupful  of  fuel. 

CC  Ron,  we  suggest  just  staying  where  you  are  on  the 

dead  band;  there's  no  problem  on  fuel. 

03  11  hh  53    CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine,  CJordo.    Thank  you. 

03  11  U7  kl    CC  America,  Hou  -  Houston.    We  just  finished  a  site 

handover.    And  we're  seeing  some  excessive  counts 
on  the  UV.    We'd  like  to  chase  the  problem  a  little, 
and  to  do  that,  we'd  like  you  to  turn  the  UV  OFF 
for  5  seconds  and  then  back  ON.  Over. 

03  11  53  3*t    LMP  Houston,  IT;  how  do  you  read  after  a  COMMAND  RESET? 

CC  17,  this  is  Houston.     You're  loud  and  clear.  Have 

you  been  calling? 

LMP  Yes,  sir,  we've  been  calling.     After  your  handover, 

we  heard  your  statement  that  you  handed  over  and 
then  hadn't  been  able  to  contact  you  after  that. 
I  Just  hit  a  COMMAND  RESET. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  that  was  a  problem  here  on  the  ground. 

Over. 

LMP  Okay. 

03  11  55  17    IMP  Say,  Gordy,  17 . 

CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP 


Yes,  we've  got  B  DUPLEX  -  B  SIMPLEX  ON,  apparently 
left  over  from  the  LM  checks.    I  suspect  I  should 
turn  that  OFF.  Right? 


Tape  57/5 


That's  affirmative. 
Houston,  17* 
Go  ahead. 

Gordo,  Just  an  interesting  observation  on  my  part. 
I  don't  know  why,  but  all  the  air  huhhles  in  the 
beverage  packs  -  you  know,  none  of  the  air  bubbles 
will  come  together  at  all.    If  you  get  it  a  small 
air  bubble,  it  stays  in  a  small  air  bubble.  And 
they'll  never  co  -  come  together.    However,  in 
my  chicken  and  rice  soup  package  here ,  I  had  a 
whole  bunch  of  smeill  air  bubbles  and  now  it '  s  all 
one  great  big  air  bubble  in  the  middle. 

Okay. 

Most  of  the  -  most  of  the  spoon  bowl  packs  you 
know  -  or  wet  packs,  whereas  the  Juice  ba^s  won't 
do  it. 

Okay,  that's  interesting.    I  sure  don't  know  why 
either. 

We're  Just  trying  to  keep  your  day  interesting 
here,  Gordy.    Now  that  you  won't  let  us  look  at  the 
Earth  anymore,  we'll  start  looking  in  the  cabin. 

Okay,  while  you're  looking  in  the  cabin,  I've  got 
a  new  hydrogen  cryo  configuration  for  you  to  mini- 
mize the  pressure  cycling  and  cut  down  the  wear 
and  tear  on  the  motor  switch.    If  you're  reacty  to 
do  it,  I'll  read  it. 

Go  ahead. 

Okay,  on  Hg  TANK  1  and  TANK  2  HEATERS,  both  of 

them,  OFF.     On  the  FANs,  TANK  1  FAN's  ON,  TANK  2 
fan's  off.    I  think  they're  there  alreat^.  And 
TANK  3  FAN'S  AUTO.  Over. 

Hey,  there's  a  new  configuration.    Okay,  HEATERs 

1  and  2  are  OFF.  Hp  FANs  -  1  is  ON,  2  is  OFF,  and 
3  is  AUTO. 


Tape  57/6 


CC  Okay,  souads  good. 

LMP  That  soTinds  like  an  EECOM  special. 

CC  That  it  is. 

03  12  06  31    CDR  Hello,  Houston,  I've  got  the  limb  of  the  Moon. 

CC  Very  good. 

CDR  I've  got  the  limb  of  the  Moon  out  the  -  got  it  out 

the  center  hatch  and  we're  Just  barely  seeing  a  - 
barely  seeing  the  horizon  of  the  Moon.  But,  boy, 
is  it  big. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Well,  that  must  be  a  -  what  -  you  know,  talk  about 

a  sliver  of  the  Moon,  that  is  a  sliver  of  a  sliver. 

CDR  Gordo,  we're  coming  in  right  down  on  top  of  it. 

What's  our  perigee,  did  you  say?    73  miles? 

CC  Roger.     That's  about  right.    Don't  worry,  you'll 

miss  it. 

CDR  I  Just  want  to  hear  you  say  it  because  I'm  going 

to  hold  you  to  it.    As  long  as  you  shadow  your 
eyes  from  the  Sun  -  the  Sun  is  just  about  laying 
on  the  horizon  of  the  Moon,  and  as  a  matter  of 
fact,  as  I  watch  it,  I  can  watch  the  horizon  -  the 
amount  of  -  of  daylight  terminator  get  larger. 

CC  Roger. 

03  12  08  56    CDR  Gordy,  unless  I  get  proven  wrong  here,  I  think 

we'll  be  able  to  watch  it  all  the  way  in  as  long 
as  we  can  keep  shadowed  from  the  Sun. 

CC  Okeydoke. 

CDR  I'll  tell  you,  when  you  get  out  here,  it's  a 

big  mamou. 


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03  12  12  02    CDR  Gordy,  it's  a  sight  to  remember.    Not  Just  be- 

cause of  the  uniqueness  of  the  view,  but  because 
we  all  got  to  ask  ourselves  if  we  really  know  where 
we  are  and  what  we're  reeLLly  looking  at  right  this 
moment,  and  when  you  answer  that  question,  it's 
yes,  it  certainly  becomes  an  epic  sight  in  your 
mind. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

IMP  Hy  congratxilatlons  to  the  trench  for  solving 

suiother  rendezvous  -  rendezvous  problem. 

CC  Roger. 

03  12  13  ^3    CDR  Gordy,  can  you  tell  us  how  far  we  are  right  now 

from  the  -  from  the  Moon? 

CC  Surely  can;  stand  by. 

CC  Right  now,  you're  about  5000  miles  from  the  surface. 

CDR  Okay.    Thank  you. 

03  12  15  26    IMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

IMP  I  think  I  got  a  visual  on  the  SIM  be^y  door  now 

out  window  5*    It's  Just  about  directly  off  our 
present  plus-Y  axis. 

CC  Okay.    Must  be  way  out  there  by  now. 

IMP  Oh,  yes.     It's  a  long  way  out  there;  jiist  flashing. 

CC  Roger. 

03  12  17  31    IMP  Gordy,  what's  the  MOCR  having  for  dinner  Sun  - 

this  Siinday? 


CC 


Well,  let's  see.    I  guess  we  haven't  sent  out 
for  hainburgers ,  yet .    There '  s  a  few  brown  bags 
In  sight,  but  that's  about  it. 


Tape  57/8 


LMP  }iy  goodness . 

CDR  Gordy,  it  doesn't  look  like  I'll  have  a  chance 

to  go  to  church  today,  but  under  the  circumstances, 
I  guess  it'll  be  okay.    Next  time  you  see  the 
good  father,  you  might  have  him  put  a  good  word 
in  for  us. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  do  that. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  58/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

03  12  27  56    CDR  Gordy,  is  -  in  our  present  attitude,  I'm  seeing 

the  -  the  limb  of  the  Moon  convex  down  towards  our 
minus-X  axis.     That's  out  of  the  hatch  window.  Can 
you  tell  me  which  is  the  North  and  which  is  the 
South  Pole? 

CC  Okay.    Stand  by. 

CDR  Yes,  I'd  be  all  squared  away  if  -  if  the  Moon 

were  on  Jack's  side,  because  he's  got  that  end  on 
his  head,  but  I'm  a  little  mixed  up  now. 

CC  Roger.    I  understand  your  problem. 

CDR  Gordy,  I  -  I'm  thinking  the  -  the  top  of  the  -  the 

LM  towards  the  Sun  is  probably  the  north. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Hello,  Gordy.     I  -  I  think  I  got  it.     Window  - 

the  -  the  north  has  got  to  be  on  the  right  as  I 
look  at  the  limb  of  the  Moon  opposite  the  Sun. 
Because  when  ve  go  into  retrograde  attitude,  it's 
got  to  be  over  there.    I  think  I  can  see  Korolev 
without  any  problem.     It's  a  little  bit  north  of 
the  -  of  the  equator. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  Gordy,  are  you  still  with  us? 

CC  That's  affirm.     I'm  with  you,  and  I'm  getting 

lots  of  advice  here. 

CDR  Okay.    Okay.     I'll  bet  you  are.    But  I  -  I  think 

I  got  it  oriented.    You  can  literally  watch  your- 
self fall  down  in.     As  we  get  closer,  if  we're 
going  to  have  a  view  like  this,  it's  going  to  be 
pretty  dramatic.    Because  we're  calling  the  way 
you  climb  on  out  of  the  Moon  when  you  leave  it, 
if  you  can  see.    And  I  remember  remarks  at  that 
time,  "Gee,  if  we  could  see  it  like  this  when  we 
came  back  in,  we'd  have  to  close  our  eyes."  If 
we  can  see  this  thing  coming  in  like  I  think  we 
may  be  able  to  see  it  at  50  miles,  it  isn't  going 
to  look  like  very  much. 


Tape  58/2 


CC  Roger.    We  agree. 


CDE 


And  we're  even  considering  the  win  -  putting  - 
Gordy,  we're  consider  -  Gordy,  we're  considering 
putting  the  window  covers  up. 


CC  You're  chickens,  huh? 

03  12  32  21    CDE  It's  going  to  be  one  of  those  high  -  high  -  angle 

energy  conversion  roundouts, 

CC  Roger.    From  our  information  here,  if  you're 

looking  at  the  Moon  so  that  the  -  the  dark  limb 
is  up,  then  north  should  he  to  the  right. 

CDE  Yes.     I  -  I  concur,  and  that's  the  way  it  is. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  The  horizon  is  Just  steadily  growing  bigger. 

CC  Does  it  look  about  the  same  as  last  time? 

CDE  What  do  you  mean,  "last  time?"    Couple  years  ago? 

CC  Right. 

CDR  Gordy,  we  never  saw  it  coming  in  a  couple  years 

ago.     We  saw  it,  as  I  recall,  a  day  out,  and  we 
saw  Just  a  -  a  shadow  of  the  limb.    But  we  -  to 
my  best  re  -  recollection,  we  never  saw  it  this 
close.     As  a  matter  of  fact,  we  went  into  darkness 
prior  to  going  into  LOI,  and  this  time,  much  to 
my  amazement,  we  don't.     But  I  see  now  that  we 
won't,  and  I  see  why,     I'll  tell  you,  everyone 
who's  seen  that  view  leaving  knows  how  fast  you 
climb  out.     And  by  golly,  the  closer  we  get  to  it, 
the  faster  we're  coming  in. 

03  12  33  56    CC  Roger. 

03  12  39  28    CDR  Gordo.    The  -  the  widest-most  part  of  the  convex 

horizon  probably  covers  a  good  couple  of  degrees. 
I  can  now  see  relief  on  the  -  on  the  horizon  it- 
self against  the  dark  space. 


CC 


Roger . 


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CDR  And  the  rim  of  Korolev  is  readily  visible  standing 

out  by  itself  in  the  -  in  the  darker  or  the  unlit 
part  of  the  -  of  the  Moon.  I  can  see  the  central 
peaks  or  mountains  very  well  lit  up. 

03  12  ho  50    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     This  is  Jack.     Is  there  any  reason 

not  to  start  the  checks  at  about  8?: ^3? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     What  I  -  what  I  called  a  -  a  central 

peak  or  range  In  there  must  undoubtedly  be  that 
inner  ring,  but  it  -  the  way  it  was  lit  up  in  the 
sunlight  gave  you  a  definite  impression  that  it 
had  an  enlongated  central  range. 

03  12  Ul  U6    CC  Roger.    And  for  Jack,  no  problem  starting  early 

on  the  checks. 

03  12  1*1  56    LMP  Okay.    They're  in  work. 

03  12  1*3  36    CDR  Okay,  Hous  - 

LMP  Houston.     Going  to  put  the  UV  COVER  OPEN. 

How  long? 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    And  we'd  like  5  minutes  of  operation 

with  it  OPEN. 

LMP  Okay . 

03  12  1+3  57    LMP  MARK  it,  OPEN. 

03  12  1*5  1*0    LMP  Okay,  Houston;  IT-    I've  started  the  secondary 

glycol  pump,  and  it  -  I  neglected  to  make  a  check 
on  the  evap  OP  temperature.     Do  you  have  that, 
and  did  we  get  a  decrease? 

CC  Stand  by.     Looks  okay.  Jack. 

LMP  Thank  you. 

03  12  1+8  13    LMP  Okay,  Gordo.     There's  NOUN  05. 


CC 


Roger . 


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LMP  And  you're  looking  at  the  torquing  angle, 


03  12  1+8  58    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  going  SPS  PRESSURE  INDICATOR 

to  2. 


CC  Okay,  Jack.    And  you  can  close  the  UV  cover,  and 

go  ahead  and  roll  back  to  06k  ROLL.     And  you're 
clear  to  torque  the  P52. 

03  12  1+9  19    LMP  Okay.     UV  COVER  is  CLOSED. 

03  12  1+9  55    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Going  back  to  SPS  PRESSURE 

INDICATOR  1. 

03  12  50  02    CC  Okay, 

03  12  52  31    CC  America,  Houston.    We  -  ve  still  see  the  UV  door 

open.    Have  you  closed  it  yet? 

03  12  52  51    LMP  Okay.    It's  now  CLOSED,  Gordy. 

CC  Roger. 

03  12  53  31    CC  America,  Houston.    I  have  the  LOI  and  map  update 

pads  when  you're  ready. 

CDR  Stand  by  1,  Gordo. 

03  12  51+  59    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     What  do  you  have,  a  map  update  on 

page  3-83  of  the  Flight  Plan? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Why  don't  you  go  ahead? 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


Okay.    It's  for  rev  1.    AOS  without  burn  is 
089:07:1*6;  with  the  burn  is  089:l6:29. 

Okay.  Without  the  burn  is  07:1+6,  and  with  the 
bum  is  16: 29. 

That's  affirmative,  and  then  I  have  your  LOI 
maneuver  pad. 

Okay.     We're  ready  to  go. 


Tape  58/5 


03  12  55  53    CC  Okay.    LOI,  SPS/G&N;  the  weight  is  6636I; 

plus  1,21,  minus  0.12;  ignition  time  is  O88: 5^: 21.  jlt; 
NOUN  81,  minus  2798. 8,  plus  10itl+.9,  minus  00^2.5; 
roll,  pitch,  and  yaw  are  all  zero;  NOUN         0170. 1, 
plus  0052.5;  2987.7,  burn  time  is  6:38,  2981.U; 
sextant  star  is  k^,  252.1,  13.5;  rest  of  the  pad 
is  NA.    GDC  align  stars  are  Sirius  and  Rigel; 
122;  35U;  000.     Ullage  is  none.    Remarks:  LM 
weight,  36312;  single-hank  hurn  time  is  6:51.  Over. 
Stand  hy  on  the  readhack.     Okay.    We'll  take  ACCEPT, 
and  give  you  the  up-links  while  you're  reading  it 
back. 

03  12  58  20    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    Here's  your  readhack.    You've  got 

ACCEPT.     It's  LOI  pad,  SPS/G&N;  6636I;  plus  1.21, 
minus  0.12;  O88: 5^^: 21. 7^+;  minus  2798.8, 
plus  10l^l|.9,  minus  OOi+2.5;  000,  000,  000;  0170.1, 
plus  0052.5;  2987.7,  6:38,  298l.lt;  it5,  252.1,  13.5; 
rest  of  pad  is  NA.     Sirius  and  Rigel;  122;  35^;  000. 
There's  no  ullage.    LM  weight,  36312;  single-bank 
bum  time,  6  plus  51. 

CC  Okay.     That's  a  good  readhack. 

03  13  01  06    CC  It's  jo\xr  computer,  America.     You  have  a  state 

vector,  a  VERB  66,  and  a  target  load.     Go  hack  to 
BLOCK. 

03  13  01  15    CDR  Okay.     It's  in  BLOCK,  Gordy.    We're  finishing  up 

on  the  hottom  of  3-79. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  And  I  can  just  roll  attitude.     I've  got  the  hig 

old  Moon  again,  and  from  where  I  sit,  it  looks 
like  we're  right  on  target.  Fifty  miles  above 
target,  I'd  like  to  add. 

CC  Okay.    That  sounds  good. 

CDR  The  limb  is,  of  course,  still  growing  and  a  little 

more  rapidly.     And  what  I  can  see  of  the  -  of  the 
limb  that's  not  blocked  out  by  the  S\m,  it's  getting 
obviously  much  larger  in  the  window. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  58/6 


CDR  Ncfv  I  guess  it  depends  on  the  shadowing  of  the 

Sun  as  to  whether  or  not  we're  going  to  see  too 
much.    I  think  retrograde,  we  ought  to  see  quite 
a  bit  once  we  get  over  the  terminator. 

CDR  Gordy,  there's  enough  of  the  lighted  portion  of 

the  Moon  where  you  can  see  the  relief  -  not  Just 
a  shadowing  relief,  but  the  actual  relief  of 
several  craters  as  they  stretch  across  the  termi- 
nator, both  to  the  north  and  to  the  south.     I  can 
see  even  more  definite  relief  now  on  the  horizon, 
just  to  the  north  and  behind  Korolev  -  on  the 
black,  horizon  against  space. 

CC  Roger. 


The  -  the  unlit  part  of  the  Moon,  as  you  might 
expect,  is  Just  as  dark  from  here  as  is  deep  space 
itself.  ^ 


CC  Roger. 


CDR 


CDR 


It's  black,  I  might  say  at  this  point. 


03  13  03  58    CC  America,  Houston.     For  your  information,  your 

altitude  is  about  3000  miles  now. 

CDR  Okay,  3000  miles. 


Gordy,  the  -  the  limb  has  much  more  three-dimensional 
relief  now.    Towards  us,  you  can  -  you  can  get  the 
feeling  that  the  horizon  -  the  litted  portion  of 
the  horizon  definitely  does  flow  in  o\ir  direction. 
And  although  you  can't  see  the  uinlit  portion  of 
the  Moon,  you  get  a  feeling  that  there's  a  great 
deal  more  of  it  a  lot  closer  than  that  which  you 
can  see. 


CC  Roger. 

03  13  05  52    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     The  pre-SPS  burn  aim  prep  is 

complete. 

CC  Roger. 


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CDR  And  I'm  going  to  give  imr  "buddies  a  chance  to  look 

at  it  now. 


CC  Okay. 

CDR  I  never  thought  I'd  see  a  geologist  speechless  at 

his  first  near  -  near  shot  at  the  Moon,  but  I 
haven't  heard  a  word  from  him  yet. 


CC  Roger . 

LMP  This  geologist  turned  engineer  for  about  an  hour. 

CC  He's  probably  speechless,  becaiose  there's  no 

clouds  to  talk  about. 

03  13  08  08    CDR  Gordo,  everything's  looking  good  on  board.  We're 

just  waiting  for  about  88:05.    We'll  be  in  our 
maneuver  at  that  time. 


CC  Okay.    Everything  looks  good  here  also. 

CDR  Okay.    And  is  your  LOS  of  about  U5  still  good? 


CC  I'll  doublecheck  that. 


03  13  10  ih    CC  America,  the  Flight  Plan  is  correct  on  LOS.  To 

be  exact,  it  will  be  88;l+3:UO. 

CDR  1+3:  UO.     Thank  you,  Gordo. 

CDR  If  -  if  you  guys  could  get  an  idea  down  there  of 

the  needle  you're  threading  when  you  shoot  for 
50  miles  at  a  quarter  of  million,  you'd  be  mighty 
proud  of  yo\irselves.     I'll  tell  you,  we  are. 


CC  Roger . 

CDR.  I  guess  I  really  ought  to  wait  and  tell  you  that 

at  89:16:29. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Hey,  Gordy.     Do  you  have  any  idea  what  our  relative 

speed  is  to  the  -  to  the  Moon  at  this  time? 


Tape  58/8 


Yes.    It's  5000  feet  per  second.  You're 
presently  266o  miles  up. 

CDR  Okay.     I  assume  T.  P.  is  there,  and  I  guess  John 

is,  too.     I  don't  know  if  John  saw  this  coining  in 
on  16,  hut  I  know  they  can  recall  what  we  saw 
leaving  on  10,    And  other  than  the  fact  that  you 
can't  see  as  much  of  the  Moon,  it's  Just  as 
impressive. 

CC  Roger.     I  was  just  talking  to  John  ahout  it  a 

couple  of  minutes  ago.  Their  view  on  l6  was  - 
they  didn't  have  any  sunlit  Moon,  hut  they  did 
have  some  pretty  good  earthshine. 

03  13  13  59    CDR  Well,  he  -  he  knows  what  I'm  talking  ahout  then. 

03  13  16  59    CDR  Gordy,  it's       unbelievable  view  through  the 

monoeiilar  now.    You  can  really  see  down  in  the 
depths  of  some  of  the  larger  craters  and  with  a 
great  deal  of  clarity.    And  you  can  see  the  -  some 
of  the  higher  ridges  actually  rolling  right  over 
the  horizon  as  they  go  away  from  you. 

CC  Roger,  Geno. 

03  13  25  32    CDR  Hey,  Houston.     As  much  as  I  hate  to,  I  think  we're 

going  to  have  to  maneuver  out  of  this  attitude. 

CC  Roger.    As  you  take  your  last  look  there,  you're 

presently  20  -  just  a  little  over  2000  miles  up, 
and  you're  coming  down  about  1+500  feet  per  second, 

03  13  25  59    CDR  Yes.    You'd  better  believe  that. 

03  13  29  33    CDR  Gordo,  there's  only  one  better  view  than  this. 

CC  What's  that.  Gene? 

CDR  Right  at  the  moment  anyway.    Right  at  the  moment 

anyway,  is  to  be  out  there  and  watching  this  space- 
craft maneuver  in  attitude  and  -  and  watch  it  burn 
over  the  lunar  surface.     I  get  the  feeling  someone 
is  watching. 

CC  Roger. 


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03  13  31  07    CC  Give  us  OMNI  Charlie,  please. 

03  13  33  25    CC  Apollo  IT,  HoTiston.    We  just  had  a  site  handover. 

That's  resulted  In  the  LOS  time  changing  19  seconds, 
It's  now  1*3:21. 

03  13  33  ho    IMP  Okay;  1+3:21,  and  we  are  -  we're  on  OMNI  Charlie, 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  just  to  round  out  things  as  we  pitch  back 

into  LOI  attitude,  lo  and  behold  from  over  the 
top  of  the  LM  came  the  Earth. 

CC  Veiy  good. 

LMP  Got  the  whole  thing  in  one  big  package. 

03  13  35  ih    CDR  Pretty  interesting,  Gordo.    We  can  -  we  can  see 

we're  right  over  South  America  and,  of  course,  we 
can  see  up  the  Gulf  Coast.    And  it  looks  like 
Houston  is  covered  with  clouds,  but  poetically 
enough,  we  can  see  the  Cape,  at  least  we  can  see 
Florida. 

CC  How  about  that. 

03  13  39  Ok    CMP  Yes,  a  VERB  1+1  NOUN  91.     And  I'm  on  VOX  now.  Get 

the  commander's  light.  (Laughter) 

CC  Ron,  you're  loud  and  clear  on  VOX. 

03  13  39  28    CMP  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  in  attitude  now. 

CC  Roger. 

03  13  1*0  1*7    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  star  sextant  check  is  GO. 

We've  got  it  in  the  sextant. 

CC  Roger. 

03  13  1*1  U8    CMP  Okay.    Okay.     Let's  go  ahead  and  go  and  do  the  PUO; 

22  -  about  -  - 

CDR  How  many? 


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CMP 


CDR 


  about  20  minutes.     Well,  it  looks  like  it's 

going  pretty  close  to  vhere  we  want  to  be  anytow. 


CMP  Okay  -  okay. 

CMP  ...  back  the  other  way. 

03  13  kh  23    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  standing  by  in  PUO. 

CC  Roger.    We're  watching  you. 

CDR  Okay.     Everything  is  checking  out  good  on  board. 

CC  Roger. 

03  13  kh  52    CMP  Okay.     Let's  go  over  the  cue  cards.     Okay.  DELTA-V 

check's  complete.    Set  the  DELTA-V  2981. 1+.  Okay. 
We  have  the  pre-DELTA-V  in  standby.     And  the  SIM 
bay's  been  checked.  Jack? 

LMP  Yes,  it's  been  checked. 

03  13  U5  29    CMP  Okay.    We're  in  RATE  2  on  the  BMAGs.     Okay,  no 

trim.    We'll  Just  leave  12  of  them  ON  then.  I've 
checked  the  DAP.     Yes.     Yes.     Check  it  again.  Yes. 
B/D  -  B/D  ROLL.     Get  it?    That's  good.     Plus  1.21 
and  minus  0.12. 

03  13  he  36    CMP  Okay.     The  DAP  is  loaded. 


Okay,  Houston.     The  DAP  looks  good. 


CC  Roger. 

03  13  i+6  50    CMP  Okay.     We're  CMC  and  AUTO.     And  we're  at  the  pad 

attitude  now.    Okay.    Boresight  sextant  star  check 
is  complete.     Yes,  I  did  it  once.     Let's  try  it 
again.     It  kind  of  drifts  quite  a  bit. 

03  13  hi  27    CMP  Okay.     The  old  GDC  is  aligned. 

03  13  1+7  33    CMP  Okay.     DIRECT  ULLAGE  breakers  are  going  IN. 

PITCH  1.     YAW  1. 

03  13  U7  hk    CMP  MAIN  A  circuit  breakers  are  IN.     The  rest  of  them 

are  all  IN. 


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03  13  hi  51    CMP  DAP  control  and  SPS  are  all  CLOSED, 

03  13  U7  56    CMP  Okay.    We  have  three  of  them  in  RATE  COMMAND. 

That  looks  like  about  DEAD  BAND,  RA.TE  to  LOW. 

03  13  U8  21    CMP  SCS  TVC  is  in  RATE  COMMAND. 

03  13  kS  28    CMP  Okay.     CG  is  in  LM/CSM. 

03  13  U8  32    CMP  GIMEAL  DRIVE:     PITCH  1,  YAW  1,  AUTO.     PITCH  and 

YAW  in  AUTO. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    We're  down  to  6  minutes  in  the 

checklist. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Okay. 

03  13  50  kk    CMP  Okay.    We  keep  tight  limits,  though,  to  1  plus  10, 

huh?    Okay.    Here  ve  go;  25  -  25  21.    BR.  That's 
not  it.    Getting  tight  -  tight  lim  -  SUO.  Yes. 

03  13  51  31    CMP  06:38.     Single-bank  bum  time  is  06:51.  I'll 

start  off  BANK  A  first.  That  -  that  means  we  may 
get  a  chug  when  we  start  on  BANK  B. 

CMP  Yes,  but  if  -  Okay. 

CMP  Oh,  my  scissors  flew  up  and  disappesjred  somewhere. 

I'll  have  a  hard  time  eating  if  you  guys  take  all 
the  scissors  with  you. 


CMP  But  my  teeth  are  pretty  good  though. 

CMP  Okay. 
CMP  Okay. 


03  13  53  5T  CMP 


That's  unless  you  start  -  start  an  hour  and  20 
minutes  late,  and  then  it's  bum  time  plus  5. 


Tape  58/12 


CMP  Okay. 
CMP  Okay. 

03  13  5h  kj    CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.    If  -  if  you  three  are  Inter- 

ested in  sticking  around  awhile,  you  have  our  GO 
for  LOI. 

CDR  Roger,  Houston.    Understand.    America  is  GO  for 

LOI.  And  let  it  "be  known  that  the  crew  of  America 
is  GO  for  LOI. 

CC  Roger  that. 

03  13  55  23    CMP  I'm  kind  of  worried  about  this  camera  back  here. 

It  might  come  banging  down. 


CMP 


It's  up  there  yet.     Yes.  Yes. 


CMP  (Humming) 
CMP  Okay. 
03  13  57  56    CMP  Okay.    Panel  8  looks  good. 

03  13  58  05    CMP  Okay.     We're  5/1,  1/2,  CMC,  GDC.     COMMAND,  RATE 

COMMAND,  RATE  COMMAND. 

03  13  58  12    CMP  LIMIT  CYCLE  is  OFF.     DEAD  BAND,  MIN.     RATE  to  LOW 

TRANS  CONTROL  POWER  is  OFF. 

03  13  58  17    CMP  A  -  AC  DIRECTS  are  OFF  CMC  in  AUTO.  RATE  2 

RATE  2,  RATE  2. 

03  13  58  25    CMP  TVC  is  RATE  COMMAND.     GIMBAL  MOTORS  are  OFF. 

03  13  58  29    CMP  LM/CSM,  ELS  is  AUTO  -  I  mean  the  ELS  is  MANUAL. 

03  13  58  31*    CMP  RCS  lOGIC  is  OFF.    ROLL  is  OFF.     .05G.    AC  a^d 

GPI. 

03  13  58  k2    CMP  GIMBAL  DRIVEs  in  AUTO.     Everything  looks  good. 

(Humming) 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  59/1 

APOELO  IT  AIR-TO-GROOTD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 

03  Ih  00  56    CDR  Stick  it  in  w  pocket. 

03  Ik  01  33    LMP  Four  minutes  -  a  little  better. 

CDR  Hello,  Gordy.    As  we  approach  LOS,  we've  still  got 

America  out  the  view  of  the  hatch  window.  We'll 
see  you  at  89:16:29, 

03  Ih  02  08    CC  Okay,  Gene.     About  1  minute  len  until  LOS.  You 

have  our  wishes  for  a  good  burn. 

CDR  Thank  you,  sir.     We  shall  have  one. 

LMP  Okay. 

03  Ik  02  56    CDR  And,  Gordy,  I  assure  you  we  will  be  out  at  16:1.0. 

CC  Very  good. 

03  ll*  5^+  XX  BEGIN  LUEAR  REV  1 

03  Ik  36  58    CMP  Didn't  ...  me  yet. 

03  1^37  06    CMP  it's  not  in  yet.    Well,  yes,  it  is.  here's 

AOS  limits  right  there. 

CMP  I  think  we  Just  passed  Hertz  and  - 

03  111  3T  17    CC  Hello  there,  America.    We  heax  you  talking. 

03  Ik  37  32    CMP  AUTO  and  NARROW.     Yes,  AUTO  and  NARROW. 

03  Ik  37  k8    CMP  Good;  I  thought  it  dropped  off.    Hey,  it  dropped 

03  Ik  37  56    CMP  Minus  1^3  and  3lt5. 

CC  Hello,  America;  this  is  Houston.    How  do  you  read? 

CMP  Attitude?    Yes,  65,  60,  8.    Yes,  we're  in  attitude. 


Tape  59/2 


03  Ih  38  22    CC  America,  Houston.  Over. 


CMP 
CMP 
CMP 


Don't  tell  me  the  old  high-gain  crurnped. 
Okay.     Let's  see  you're  MAlifUAL  - 
Yes,  we  started  to  get  it  -  awhile  ago. 
03  lU  39  13    CMP  Yes,  put  it  in  AUTO  and  NARROW. 

CMP  There. 
CMP  The  time? 

03  1^  39  h8    CMP  Yes,  we're  at  the  edge  of  Marginis. 

03  li+  1+0  16    CMP  There's  Al-Biruni  over  here. 

03  lU  kl  Ok    CDR  Okay.     It  cajne  in  then.     There  it  goes.  Hello! 

03  Ih  kl  ik    CC  Hello,  America.     How  do  you  read  Houston?  Over. 

03  Ik  kl  19    CDR  America  -  Houston,  this  is  America.    You  can 

breathe  easier.    America  has  arrived  on  station 
for  the  challenge  ahead. 

CC  Very  good.     We've  been  hearing  you  for  a  couple 

of  minutes  now.    We've  had  a  ground  site  problem, 
but  you're  loud  and  clear  now. 

CDR  Okay.     That's  what  we  sort  of  thought ,  Gordo .  The 

SPS  bxim  could  not  have  been  more  nominal.  I've 
got  some  numbers  for  you,  if  you're  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

03  Ik  kl  56    CDR  Okay,  T^^  was  on  time.    T.^  was  on  time,  bum  time 

vas  6  plus  33,        is  2989.9;  roll  was  008;  pitch, 

357;  yaw,  006;  all  at  the  end  of  the  bum.  Resid- 
uals minus  0.3,  plus  0.1,  and  0.     DELTA-V^  was 

minus  6.8;  oxidizer,  S^+.O;  fuel,  3k. 3i  unbalance 

is  110,  decrease.    The  CMC  holds  us  in  a  170.3  by 
52.5. 

CC  That  sounds  great.  Gene. 


Tape  59/3 


It  was  an  auto  ignition.     It  was  an  auto  shutdown. 
I  think  any  comments  during  the  burn  are  on  the 
tape.     But,  to  me,  it  was  probably  the  smoothest 
and  quietest  SPS  burn  I  ever  remeniber. 

Roger . 

Houston,  this  is  Jack.     The  PUGS  was  erratic.  It's 
the  only  thing  I  noticed  that  was  offnominal.     It  - 
it  bounced  ground  a  lot,  in  bouncing  arou  -  it  was 
initially  for  about  a  minute  -  axo\ind  -  oh,  1.8 
decrease,  then  it  gradually  started  to  diverge  from 
that  to  a  more  decrease,  down  to  about  2.5  or  make 
that  3  decrease.    And  I  went  to  DECREASE  on  the 
switch;  and  about  the  time  of  crossover,  I  had  it 
at  -  oh,  about  1  decrease  and  it  crossed  over  and 
stabilized  at  zero,  and  I  went  to  NORMAL  and  it 
stayed  there  the  rest  of  the  bum  -  until  just  near 
the  end,  it  started  to  go  decrease  again. 

Okay,  we  copy  that.  Jack. 

Okay,  Gordo,  did  you  by  any  chance  get  the  S-IVB 
impact? 

We're  -  Okay,  the  new  ln^jact  time  for  that  is  89:39, 
so  we  haven't  quite  got  there  yet. 

Okay.     Thank  you. 

And,  Houston  -  Ron  here.    Something  a  little  bit  of 
a  STorprise  to  me.    When  I  turned  on  bank  A,  the 
chamber  pressure  came  up  to  87  percent,  and  stayed 
there  essentially.    Five  seconds  later,  I  put  on 
band  B,  the  chamber  pressure  rose  to  90  -  about  91  - 
somewhere  in  that  area.    And  then,  tbrou^out  the 
bum,  chamber  pressure  increased,  which  you'll  see 
on  the  strip  chart.    But  I  was  sure  surprised  at 
only  8T  percent  when  we  started  it.    It  looked  like 
the  velocity  gained  versus  time  was  correct  through- 
out the  bxirn,  though.    The  msiximum  the  chamber  pres- 
sure ever  got  to  was  about  97  percent,  and  that  was 
toward  the  end  of  the  bum. 

Roger,  Ron. 


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03  Ih  k6  10    CDR  A_ little  disappointed  here,  Gordo.     I  brought  an 

airborne  and  a  ground  geologist  along  with  me  and 
it  took  them  until  AOS  to  make  sure  they  knew  where 
we  were. 

CMP  Ha,  ha,  ha.    That's  not  true. 

CC  Roger . 


CMP 


CC 

LMP 
CC 


CC 


%  big  problem,  was  all  the  holes  were  hills  when  I 
first  started.    Looked  Just  like  you  had  the  pic- 
ture upside  down. 


CC  Roger,  Ron.     I  have  a  couple  pan  camera  photo  pads 

for  you. 

LMP  Go  ahead,  Gordo. 


Okay,  the  first  one  goes  in  the  Flight  Plan  at 
90:ll5,  and  the  start  time  is  090:50:32.     Stop  time 
is  091:10:57.    Go  ahead. 

Okay,  I  got  090:50:32  and  091:10:57. 

Okay,  and  next  one  goes  on  the  next  page.  Start 
time  is  09l:l8:05.     Stop  time  is  091:27:^3. 

LMP  91:18:05,  91:27:^+3. 

CC  That's  right. 

03  Ih  hi  58    LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  I  turned  the  PAH  CAMERA,  OFF,  there 

about  30  seconds  ago  and  the  post-SPS  bum  checks 
are  con$>lete.    lOGIC  -  no,  that's  -  well,  just  a 
minute.    The  post-SPS  bxims  are  complete  down  to 
LOGIC  POWER,  two,  to  DEPLOY/RETRACT.    No,  that's 
your  Flight  Plan.     Okay?    MODE  is  STANDBY. 

03  Ik  HQ  33    LMP  MARK  it.    POWER  is  ON  on  the  PAN  CAMERA.  Okay, 

Houston,  we're  waiting  your  cue  on  the  power. 


Okay  on  that,  and  there'll  be  no  update  to  the  TEI-i( 
pad.  Over. 


LMP  Beautiful. 


LMP 


Here's  Smythii,  gang.  Coming  over  Mare  -  No,  let' 
see,  Crisium.  Coming  over  Crisium.  It's  -  coming 
underneath  us  now. 


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I  will  have  in  a  Jiffy.     Okay,  I'm  going  to  hang 
off  then  a  little  hit.    Get  a  -  Boy,  this  window. 

And»  Gordo,  how  did  the  spacecraft  look  to  you  as 
we  came  around? 

Real  good,  Geno.    Kothing  to  report. 
Very  fine.    Thank  you. 

(Laughter)    One  little  minor  problem,  Gordy,  is 
that  we're  breathing  so  hard  that  the  windows  are 
fogging  up  on  the  inside  for  a  change. 

Okay,  and  we'd  like  the  PM  CAMERA  POWER,  off,  now 
The  pan  camera  run;  good. 

Beautiful. 

Oh,  boy,  there  is  Picard  -  or  Peirce,  one  of  the 
two. 

Okay,  Gordy,  all  those  dark  and  light  albedo 
changes  around  Picard  and  Peirce  are  not  obvious 
at  this  particular  angle  yet.    There's  some  hint 
of  them. 

Roger. 

The  -  rim  -  Is  there  one  farther  south  of  Peirce? 

Which  -  is  it  far  -  Is  the  one  farthest  -  Picard, 
yes. 

Picard,  I  think,  is  the  one  I'm  looking  at.  Yes, 
it  is.     Yes,  and  I  can  see  Peirce  now  Just  - 
behind  the  rendezvous  antenna  -  or  radar.     And  - 
Yes,  way  out  there,  you  ought  to  start  seeing  them 

I  guess  I  ought  to  get  that  other  stuff  on  the 
camera,  huh? 

Okay.    We're  Just  about  over  the  top  of  Picard, 
and  the  rim  materials,  which  go  out  about  a  third 
of  a  crater  in  diameter,  as  near  as  I  can  tell, 
are  -  are  distinctly  darker  but  not  by  much. 
They're  more  gray,  really,  then  the  gray-tan,  or 
tannish  gray  of  the  rest  of  the  mare. 


Tape  59/6 

CC 
MP 


Roger.  Now  we  assume  you're  all  set  up  or  about 
to  get  that  way  for  the  landing  site  photos. 

Yes,  sir.    There  is  no  obvious  ray  pattern  or 
secondary  pattern  outside  of  that  blsmket  around 
Picard. 


CC  Roger. 


LMP 


I  see  no  loops  or  obvious  alignment  that  would  be 
related  to  that  crater.     There  are  blocks  -  look 
like  great  big  blocky  areas  on  the  rim. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Do  they  want  the  80-millimeter  lens  on  these  termi- 

nators now? 

LMP  There's  Taruntius,  Ron. 

LMP  Yes,  I  guess  that's  right. 

LMP  I've  got  to  get  another  magazine  on  it. 

03  ll;  55  12    CC  Roger.    Can  you  verify  the  position  of  the  P  -  PU 

valve  at  this  time  for  us? 

03  Ik  55  19    CDR  Roger.     It's  in  NORMAL. 

CC  Okay. 
03  111  55  1+5    LMP  Macrobius,  Macrobius,  my  friend. 

CDR  No,  it's  Microbus  [sic]. 

LMP  Okay,  I'm  loaded  up  for  your  terminator,  Ron. 

What's  -  is  it  not  out  of  105,  or  what?    Is  it  - 
Okay,  80-millimeter  or  - 

CMP  80. 

LMP  80  -  - 

CMP  . . .  Millimeter  . . .  f/n  at  1/500  . . . 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP  80-millimeter. 

IMP  Okay. 


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CMP  f/11  at  1/500. 

IMP  Five  frames  over  the  terminator,  huh? 

CMP  12  frames. 

liMP  12  frames.     Very  good.     How  soon  do  I  start? 

CMP  Well,  about  - 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP 

03  1^+  56  37    LMP  Okay,  In  ahout  5  minutes.    All  right.  Gordy, 

you'd  he  interested  -  there's  a  -  crater  that  just 
on  the  -  on  the  west  rim  of  Crisium.  Relatively 
fresh  rim  -  fairly  crisp  rim,  but  no  strong  ray 
pattern.     There's  no  ray  pattern  apparent  at  all. 
It  looks  like  it's  pre  -  the  plains  material  around 
xt  -  that  -  since  they  come  right  up  over  the  - 
right  up  to  the  edge  of  the  crater  in  one  spot. 
That  is  Posidonius.     That's  right.     That's  what 
I'm  looking  at . 

CC  Roger . 

LMP  Not  Posidonius,  Proclus.    That's  what  I'm  describ- 

ing.   You  know  I  -  You're  looking  where? 

CDR  ...  kl. 

MP           Infamous  Proclus.     Okay,  give  me  a  mark  when  I'm  - 
Hey,  look  at  the   


CDR 


Okay ,  I '  11  give  you  a  mark ,  Jack . 


LMP  At  the  Cauchy  Rilles  here.     Man,  is  that  neat. 

Let  me  see.     Going  to  have  to  - 

CDR  One  right  there  with  the  shadowed  peak  in  there. 

Right?     Yes,  yes,  yes,  yes,  yes.     And  that's  out 
of  this  window,  huh?    I'm  not  -  sure  I'm  seeina 
it  yet.  * 

LMP  Manischewitz!     Look  at  those  terminators. 

CDR  Shadows . 


Tape  59/8 


LMP  There's  the  mare  doines  for  the  central  craters. 

They're  certainly  obvioiis .  In  -  northern  part  of  - 
Let's  see  - 


CDR 


LMP 


CMP 


CDR 


CDR 


LMP 


CDR 


The  lineations  that  trend  to  the  northwest  throu^ 
this  entire  -  entire  section  -  they  go  through  the 
mostly  throiigh  the  highlands. 

I  can  get  the  pictures.     Is  it  directly  out  of 
window  5?    Okay.     We've  got  about  another  minute 
and  a  half.     I'm  going  to  proceed  here  at  kl. 

It'll  he  right  \mdemeath  the  groundtrack.  It's 
right  under  it. 


03  Ik  59  36    LMP  Well,  that's  the  way  we're  going.     I'm  taking 

them  east-west. 

CMP  Okay.     I  ... 

LMP  0  -  yes.  Okay. 

CDR  Hey,  Jack,  we're  at  -  coining  up  on  i+O. 

03  15  00  07    CC  ...  about  a  minute  to  PRO  on  P20. 


Yes.  We're  at  1*0  -  Okay,  I'm  with  you,  Gordo. 
Thank  you. 


CMP  Okay,  you  got  it, 

LMP  Okay. 


Don't  forget  to  PRO,  Ron;  you've  got  -  you  got 
8  seconds. 


03  15  01  02    CDR  MARK  it  -  1+1.     Okay,  I  guess  you  can  -  - 

LMP  Goes.    With  the  usual  FAO  flight  planning,  that  was 

a  good  time. 

CC  Roger. 


Hey,  you  can  even  see  horizon  in  the  -  earthshine 
out  there. 

Boy,  you  sure  can.  You  can  see  an  earthlit  hori- 
zon out  there  into  the  dark  part  of  the  Moon. 


Tape  59/9 


LMP  Can  you  see  the  landing  site?    I  think  it's  going 

to  be  in  the  darkness. 

CDR  No,  I  -  it  -  The  shadows  are  so  contrasting  here, 

Ron,  that  I  - 

CMP  Give  me  that  thing  a  minute. 

03  15  02  00    LMP  Donius  [sic].    There's  le  Monnier,  the  landing 

site,    I  can't  - 

CDR  No,  it's  just  -  it's  just  dark. 

IjMP  Isn't  it  a  little  north  of  track? 

CDR  Ko,  I  think  it's  right  below  us.  Jack.     I  think 

it's  right  smack  below  us  in  darkness. 

LMP  Yes,  I  yes,  it  is.     I  can't  -  I  think  I'm  looking 

at  Littrow  right  there ,  right  below  us .     But  I 
can't  quite  tell. 

CDR  If  I  could  see  Vitruvius ,  I'd  have  a  better  handle 

on  it . 

CC  A  reminder  to  go  to  f/U  and  1/250  on  the  last  six 

pictures . 

CDR  Roger.    That's  Posidonius  all  right,    le  Monnier; 

we're  here  early. 

LMP  Boy,  I  tell  you,  there's  no  question  that  right  at 

the  terminator  you  -  you  pick  up  relief  that  you 
normally  would  not  believe  is  there  in  the  mare. 
I  remember  Bill  Anders  talking  about  the  appearance 
of  a  sea  swell  within  the  mare  Itself  and  that's 
certainly  clearly  shown  right  at  the  terminator, 
lilies s  you  start  to  see  the  shadows  from  all  the 
very  small  craters  that  otherwise  don't  show  up 
as  much  more  that  just  little  depressions,  if  that. 

CC  Okay.    We  need  ACCEPT  so  we  can  give  you  a  landing 

site  REFSMMAT. 


Tape  59/10 

03  15  03  it5    CMP  Okay,  you  have  it 

LMP 


LMP 


LMP 


CC 
LMP 

CC 


LMP 


CC 


Yes.     Okay,  I  think  that  will  do  her.  Okay, 
Hoiiston.    I  cheated.    I  took  three  extra  pictures, 
and  those  were  at  2.8  and  a  250th  at  the  end. 


CC  Okay,  Jack. 


And,  your  -  actually  your  times  might  have  been  a 
little  off,  because  I  was  just  about  ready  to  lose 
the  terminator  because  of  the  maneuver  -  are  we 
maneuvering  or  have  we? 


CMP  Yes, 


But,  I  think  we  got  a  good  set  going  up  to  the 
terminator. 


CC  Roger . 


Plus  a  couple  of  shots  -  a  few  shots  on  the  CEX 
mag  Quebec  Que  -  No,  mag  Kilo  Kilo  as  we  c  ame 
around  the  Moon  and  that  niunber  '  s  now  on  20 .  Kilo 
Kilo  is  20,  and  Quebec  Quebec  is  h2. 

Okay,  we  need  the  IR,  ON,  now. 

Okay,  back  to  work. 

It's  your  computer;  the  up-link's  in  there,  and  you 
can  go  back  to  BLOCK. 


LMP  IR  going  ON  - 

03  15  05  33     IMP  MARK  it. 


Yes,  enough  -  enough  tourist  activity. 


LMP  Warm  in  here,  isn't  it? 


America,  a  couple  of  items.    Would  you  verify  the 
S-RAND  AUX  TV  switch  is  in  the  SCIEUCE  position? 
And  one  other  thing,  we  think  you  were  in  LOW  BIT 
RATE  during  the  bum. 


03  15  06  3h  LMP 


Okay,  it's  in  SCIENCE  and  we  very  definitely  were 
in  HIGH  BIT  RATE  during  the  bum  by  the  checklist. 


Tape  59/11 


CC  Roger.    We  may  have  a  prolalem  there  "because  it 

looks  like  LOW  to  us  on  the  data.     We'll  check 
further . 

LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  there  was  -  Ron  questioned  -  brought 

up  the  question  or  possihllity  of  not  having  gone 
to  COMMAHD  RESET;  but,  just  before  we  left  you, 
you'll  probably  be  able  to  see  that  I  went  COMMAND 
RESET  and  turned  on  the  tape,  because  I  remember 
seeing  the  tape  motion. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We're  discussing  it  -  what  happened 

there . 

03  15  08  35    CC  America,  you  can  go  back  to  BLOCK, 

03  15  11  52    IMP  Okay,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  17? 

CC  You're  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     Before  we  really  got  concentrating  on  the 

bTom,  and  I  had  an  opportxinity  to  -  we  all  had 
an  opportunity  to  look  at  Korolev,  at  a  very  low 
grazing  Sun,  one  of  the  striking  things  was  the  - 
to  me  was  the  extreme  absence  of  relief,  the  very 
smooth  surface  that  existed  in  Korolev,  independ- 
ent, of  course,  of  the  craters  that  are  penetrating 
that  surface.     And  it  looked  like  there  was  a  ring 
in  the  floor  -  out si  -  next  to  the  wall  about  maybe 
one-sixth  of  a  crater  radius  that  was  somewhat 
brighter  at  the  low  grazing  Sun,  suggesting  it 
may  have  had  a  different  slope.     And  I  believe  I'm 
correct  in  saying  that  the  inner  floor  may  be 
slightly  raised.    We'll  try  to  make  other 
observations  this  next  time  around  on  that  one, 
but  there  was  Just  a  very  smooth  floor.     The  light 
plains  material  in  that  crater  is  very  smooth. 

CC  Okay;  understand.     One  quick  word  from  FAO's  -  - 

MP  .And,  of  course,  that's  independent  -  - 


Tape  59/12 


CC  -  -  film  watchers  here,  has  to  do  with  optional 

photographs.    We'd  rather  you  take  the  optional 
photographs  on  either  00  or  PP  and  reserve  KX  for 
the  scheduled  photographs.    And,  as  it  stands  now. 
we  ve  got  to  reserve  80  frames  on  either  00  or  PP 
for  scheduled  photography.  Over. 

03  15  13  h2    m?  Okay,  you  have  to  keep  track  of  that.    We  need  - 

I  was  hoping  we  had  an  optional  capability  on  our 
first  rev,  and  we'll  work  it  out. 


CC 
CC 


LMP 


We  do.  We  just  want  to  put  them  on  00. 
That's  right;  just  stick  them  on  00. 


CC  Jack,  the  problem  on  the  high  and  low  bit  rate 

there  was  a  synchronization  problem  between  you 
on  the  bum  checklist  and  us  on  the  ground  on  our 
pre-LOS  command.    No  hardware  problems,  and  I  don't 
think  It  will  be  a  problem  in  the  future. 

LMP  Okay.    But  you  did  lose  the  high  bit  rate.  Is 

that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative.    We  Just  had  low  bit  rate 

during  the  bum. 

03  15  15  19    LMP  Okay.     I  may  have  jumped  the  gun  on  you  there  a 

little  bit.     But  I  thought  we  were  supposed  to  do 
that  just  before  we  went  AOS  -  LOS.     I  think  I 
did  it  about  a  minute  before. 

CC  Okay.     It  was  almost  identi  -  simultaneous  with 

our  sending  the  command.     You've  got  about 
h  minutes  to  start  looking  at  Copernicus  coming 
here.  * 


Okay.    Thank  you.    We're  Just  -  Sun's  just  setting. 
03  15  16  08    MP  Okay,  I  have  a  visual  on  Copernicus. 

03  15  17  06    CC  iind  by  the  way,  the  S-IVB  crunched  in  on  time,  and 

It  s  been  ringing  the  ALSEP  seismometers  like  mad 
for  some  time  now. 


Tape  59/13 


VOX,  and  that's  VOX.    How  do  you  read  the  LMP, 
Gordy? 

Loud  and  clear.  Jack, 

Hiank  you.     Okay,  good.    All  right,  I've  got  a 
visual  on  Eratosthenes  and  Copernicus.     The  -  there 
are  obviously  different-age  craters  in  this  light. 
You  can  see  the  ray  patterns  in  Copernicus 
moderately  well.    You  can  even  tell  that  they  do 
cross  Eratosthenes.     Stadius  shows  up  as  a  very 
clear  dark  area  to  the  southwest  of  Eratosthenes. 
Now,  one  of  the  things  that  we  mapped  on  the 
southeast  and  south  rim  of  Copernicus  were  dark 
albedo  areas  within  the  eject a.    And  those  are 
apparent  here,  very  clearly.     And  also,  within  - 
on  the  upper  portion  of  the  rim  and  on  the  benches, 
in  that  quadrant.     The  walls  -  there  are  the  dark 
spots  -  lower  albedo  material  that  we  mapped.  They 
are  -  form  linear  patterns  along  the  benches, 
apparently.     Although  the  bench  -  the  topography 
is  not  too  clear.    But  the  dark  spots  are  in 
arcuate  linear  arrangement  parallel  to  the  rim. 
And  they  appear  to  have  -  be  elongate  along 
radius  -  along  the  radius  of  the  crater. 

Roger,  Jack. 

This  is  in  the  southeast  -  southeast  quadrant  I'm 
referring  to.     Copernicus  H  is  also  veiy  obvious 
as  a  dark- rimmed  crater,  relative  to  the  albedo 
of  the  ejecta  blanket.     And  the  northwest  quadrant, 
which  we  mapped  as  a  smooth  floor  material  and 
somewhat  darker  albedo,  is  just  as  apparent  here, 
although  all  the  contrasts,  of  course,  are  less. 
The  main  thing  that  you  can  pick  out  in  earthshine 
are  albedo  distinctions.     Now  -  now  we  -  we  -  I 
remember  that  we  also,  at  one  time  -  and  I  can't 
remember  whether  it  made  the  final  map  or  not  - 
mapped  an  arcuate  fault  structure,  based  on  the 
change  in  albedo.    And  this  was  on  the  southwest 
quadrant  of  Copernicus.     And  that  crossed  the 
southern  rim,  more  or  less  north-south,  went  down 
and  curved  across  the  floor  and  up  the  southwest 
rim,  and  that  is  a  very  clear  arcuate  pattern  in 
this  lighting.     Darker  albedo  than  the  rest  of  the 


Tape  59 /lit 


crater.    And  along  the  arc.  there  appear  to  be  a 
couple  or  three  even  darker  spots  -  much  as  we 
thought  we  saw  in  some  of  the  early  photography. 

CC  Roger . 

03  15  21  2k    IMP  There  is  a  general  streai^ing  -  radial  streaicing  - 

within  that  arcuate  dark  area  that  radiates 
radially  from  the  crater,  and  if  I  had  to  project 
the  dark  area  would.  -  north  -  whose  northeast 
terminus  is  the  arc  in  the  crater,  I'd  project  it 
Off  to  southeast  about  crater  diameter  and  a  half 
Wbe^    Now  there's  -  I'm  getting  -  essentialiT 
directly  overhead,  end  again  the  dark  spots  within 
the  crater  wall  are  still  apparent,  and  the 
streamng  or  the  radial  elongation  of  these  spots 
IS  clear.    Wow,  on  the  lower  wall  -  that's  below 
the  first  bench  -  I  can  see  four  of  these  dark 

first  bench    there  are  two  -  two  obvious  ones  and 
a  couple  that  are  somewhat  more  subtle. 

CC  Okay  -  - 

LMP  In  the  middle  of  the   


CC 


IM' 


we 


-  -  Can  you  see  anything  of  the  -  that  stuff 
were  wondering  about  in  the  central  peaks? 

No,  Gordy,  I  can't.     The  -  there's  very  little 
indication  of  relief  in  earthshine  and  particula^rly 
at  this  high  Sun  ang  -  hl^  Earth  angle,  pardon 
the  expression. 


CC  Roger. 
LMP 


lighter_ albedo  area  within  the  crater.    It  looks 
to  me  like  the  best  thing  you  can  do  in  earthshine 
IS  vork  with  albedos.    Knowing  the  general  topog- 

raphy  We're  coming  up  on  Kepler  now.  Copernicus 
^  you.lo?  ^^^^ 


Tape  59/15 


CMP  Ko,  it's  out  of  DQT  view  now,  too. 

IMP  Okay,  we,  we  -  - 

CDR  Can  you  see  Reinliold  over  there? 

LMP           Relnhold,  I  was  not  conscious  of.    Yes,  I  can  see 
Reinhold.    Reinhold  is  one  of  the  craters  just 
like  Copernicus  that  may  have  contributed  ejecta 
into  the  Apollo  12  soil.     Do  you  see  anything   

CMP  An  S  -  an  S-IVB  -  l6's  S-IVB  hit  out  there  to  the 

south,  I  think. 

LMP  Well,  I  don't  - 

CMP  No,  I  don't  think  you'd  see  it. 

LMP  I  don't  see  anything  that  would  Indicate  that. 

Reinhold  is  an  Eratosthenian  Age  crater,  as  you 
may  recall.     It's  crossed,  very  obviously  even 
in  this  light,  by  the  Copernican  rays,  which  is 
prime  -  the  main  way  we  determine  the  age,  other 
than  it  doesn't  have  any  rays  itself.  Although, 
on  the  good  photography  we  now  have,  we  know  it 
has  secondary  crater  patterns  around  it. 

CDR  You're  not  looking  at  the  same  crater  I  am  then. 

LMP  Reinhold  is  right  down  here,  Geno. 

CDR  Where  are  you  looking  . . . 

LMP  Well,  it's  south  of  Copernicus. 

CDR  Okay,  I'm  looking  up  here. 

03  15  2k  53    LMP  South  and  a  little  west. 

CDR  I  don't  have  the  same  view  you  have. 

LMP  Okay,  I  can  see  Lansberg  now.     And  I'm  afraid  I 

can't  shed  any  light,  pardon  the  expression,  on 
the  old  question  we've  had  about  the  age  of 
Lansberg  relative  to  the  mare. 


Tape  59/16 

03  15  25  IT    CC  Okay. 

MP  Kepler  ray  pattern  is  very  striking  in  this  light  - 

an  anastomoting  -  mosing  series  of  -  of  bands 
which  only  average  being  radial.    In  most  cases, 
they're  a  little  off  radial,  but  by  Joining 
together,  they  give  you  a  general  radial  pattern. 

CDR  I  Just  wanted  to  see  a  - 

03  15  25  51    LMP  Okay.    Out  the  winder  1;,  I  have  an  excellent  view 

of  Kepler.    Once  again,  albedo  differences,  such 
as  the  -  are  very  clear  -  such  as  the  distinction 
between  the  wall  -  light  -  or  brighter  wall 
materials  and  the  rim  which,  in  itself,  is  brighter 
than  the  surrounding  mare.    We  can  look  right  down 
some  of  the  rays,  and  the  rays  are  not  conipletely 
linear.     I'm  looking  now  to  the  northwest.  Gene, 
you  can  see  Aristarchus  way  up  there  in  the 
northwest.    See  it? 


CDR 
LMP 

CDR 


LMP 


Yes.     It's  coming  into 


You  ought  to  have  a  good  view  of  Aristarchus . 
Very  bright,  up  in  the  northwest  part  of  our  field 
of  view. 

The  inside  of  that  crater  almost  looks  as  if  it's 
backlit. 


LMP  That's  right.    Well,  it  should  be  (chuckle), 

Strangely  enough. 


And  -  but  I  want  -  these  rays  when  contrast  to 
the  -  maybe  the  feeling  one  would  have  that  they 
are  -  once  they  get  started,  they  form  a  linear 
pattern  across  the  surface.    They  don't  seem  to 
have  done  that.     As  a  matter  of  fact,  they're 
quite  strikingly  curved  along  their  pattern. 
They'll  break  from  the  general  radius  they're  out 
on,  cmrve  away  and  then  curve  back.    Some  -  all  - 
let's  see,  there  are  one  -  one,  two,  three,  four  - 
four  rays  that  go  from  out  to  the  northwest  of 
Kepler,  all  of  which  show  that  nonlinear 
characteristic. 


Tape  59/17 


CDR  Yes,  they're  all  radial,  though. 

IMP  They  are  radial,  in  general.    But  when  you  look 

at  them  in  detail,  only  portions  of  them  are 
radial.    And  a  single  ray,  which  you  can  follow 
continuously,  will  hend  and  then  curve  hack. 

CMP  The  -  it's  unique.    We've  got  rays  from  -  I  guess 

those  must  he  Copernicus  over  here  -  those  long 
ones  out  to  the  right,  which  you  might  not  he 
able  to  see.     Kepler  and  Reiner  are  all  -  all 
intermingling  up  here. 


IMP 


IMP 


Yes,  this  is  the  area  now  we're  going  over  where 
the  gamma  ray  work  on  15  indicated  a  relatively 
high  radioactivity.    And  -  not  yet,  it's  - 


CMP  Houston,  America  here.    Do  you  see  the  torquing 

angles? 

LMP  I  was  going  to  look  for  the  Hortensius  domes  near 

Copernicus,  hut  got  sidetracked  with  Kepler  and 
missed  them. 

03  15  28  37    CC  Okay,  ...  torquing  angles,  Ron, 


They  are  not  obvious,  though,  in  looking  in  the 
general  direction  - 


CMP  Okay,  I'll  torque  it  to  Bk5. 

CC  Roger. 

03  15  28  58    LMP  Okay,  we're  getting  out  into  Procellarum  -  Oceanus 

Procellarum  proper  now  and,  before  long,  should 
pick  up  the  medial  ridge  that  makes  that  mare  so 
distinctive  from  the  other  mare.    Actually,  the 
ridge  that  stretches  something  like  2000  kilometers 
north  to  south,  if  you  wajit  to  tie  a  vari  -  a 
number  of  things  together.     And,  probably  is  the 
Ixm  -  the  Moon's  closest  analogy  to  an  oceanic 
ridge,  which  has  -  which  have  been  in  the  news 
over  the  last  decade. 


CC 


Roger. 


Tape  59/18 


03  15  29  k9    LMP  Once  a^ain.  the  topography  of  the  Procellarum 

Mare  is  not  clear  in  this  light.  It's  just  not 
auite  enough,  light  to  give  you  strong,  distinct 
shadows,  at  least  not  yet  at  this  Earth  angle. 

CC  Okay.    And  as  you  get  the  camera  set  up  for  the 

orbital  science  pictures  of  Galois  would  want  to 
change  and  use  magazine  00  instead  of  KK.  That's 
listed  in  the  Flight  Plan  at  90:20. 

LMP  Okay,  we'll  -  we'll  do  that. 

03  15  30  32    LMP  Okay  I'm  -  out  of  the  window  k,  I'm  able  to  see 

some  of  the  Rima  Gamma  materials,  and  it's  -  awful 
hard  to  say  more  than  just  the  fact  there  is  a 
very  clear  light-colored  pattern  off  to  the  north  - 
of  our  position  at  any  rate.     I  think  all  I  can 
say  is  that  I've  seen  it.     I  can't  give  you  much 
information  on  it. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  We  can  see  the  area  where  Marius  Hills  should  be, 

although  it's  not  an  obvious  topographic  feature' 
in  this  light.     Still  see  Aristarchus  off  up  there 
shining  like  a  star,  if  the  Moon  co\ild  have  stars, 

03  15  31  1+0    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    I'm  going  to  torque  those  cos  - 

coarse  align  errors  out  at  1,  2. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

LMP  And   

CDR  You  squared  away? 


CMP 


LMP 


It's  good  to  be  able  to  see  some  stars  out  of  the 
telescope.  It's  the  first  time  I've  been  able  to 
see  any. 

Gordy,  we  have  a  -  a  very  clear  zero  phase  point 
for  the  earthli^t.     It's  certainly  not  a  strong 
contrast  for  the  Sun,  but  it's  out  there.  And 
within  it,  again,  the  fresh  craters  tend  to 
brighten  -  quite  a  bit  more  than  the  surrounding 


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mare.    Still  looking  at  Oceanus  Procellarum.  And 
now,  out  window  3,  up  to  the  northwest,  Grimaldi 
is  starting  to  show  up  -  a  very  obvious  dark  area 
within  the  highlands  of  that  part  of  the  Moon  - 
and  one  of  the  darkest  mare  regions  that  we  have 
seen  on  the  -  on  the  Moon.     It's  comparable,  at 
least  in  the  photographs,  to  that  of  Tsiolkovsky. 

CC  Roger. 

03  15  33  25    IMP  Normally,  of  course,  we  think  of  the  dark  mare  as 

being  the  younger  basalt  flows  that  -  on  the  Moon, 
but  in  our  case,  of  course,  young  means  something 
on  the  order  of  3  billion  years  or  older. 


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Tape  60/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 


03  15  33  kk    CC  Roger. 

LMP  For  our  interp  -  If  we  can  extrapolate  from  the 

samples  returned  by  other  missions. 

LMP  Amazing  how  far  over  -  now  the  highlands  to  the 

west  of  Procellarum  are  -  still  are  "bright,  and  the 
contrast  between  fresh  craters  ajid  the  normal  high- 
land are  very  -  are  very  obvious  still  in  earthlight, 
particiilarly  along  the  zero  phase  point  with  respect 
to  the  Earth.    Rima  Gamma  now  is  -  is  coming  a  lit- 
tle bit  closer  to  our  oval  track  in  the  horseshoe 
in  the  -  larger  and  more  western  end  of  it;  the 
dark  horseshoe  is  q^uite  clear  in  this  light.  It's 
a  west  -  or  northwest-pointing  horseshoe,  as  is  the 
complete  trend  of  that  strange  feature.     I  think 
Ron  is  going  to  have  an  excellent  chance  to  study 
these  light-colored  swirls  within  the  mare  and 
other  parts  of  the  Moon.    We  had  some  good  views 
of  them  and  Mare  Marginis  and  to  the  east  of 
Crisium  -  Mare  Crisium,  and  he  should  -  if  there 
is  anything  to  be  seen,  he  should  be  able  to  see 
it  for  -  during  the  next  few  days. 

CC  Okeydoke . 

03  15  35  50    CDR  Say,  Gordo,  something  I  Just  noticed  here  in  work- 

ing with  the  GDC  what-have-you.     I  -  looked  at  the 
Pc  gage,  and  in  the  Pz  -  Pc  position,  there  is  a 
continuous  bias  on  it  now  of  about,  oh,  7  percent, 
and  if  I  switch  to  ALPHA,  it  goes  to  zero.    We  never 
saw  that  bias  before  this  last  burn. 

CC  Roger ,  Gene . 

03  15  36  35    LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  I'm  looking  right  up  the  western  edge 

of  the  Procellarum  mare  where  it  contacts  the  - 
the  -  the  high  -  western  highlands  of  the  Moon,  and 
we're  Just  about  to  fly  a  little  bit  south  of 
Grimaldi .    That  edge  is  very  irregular.    There  is 
no  obvious  indications  that  it  -  there  are  large 
basins  that  have  been  flooded  by  mare  that  have 
formed  that  edge,  but,  again,  the  topographic  dis-* 
tinction's  possible  in  this  lighter  small.     Wow  I'm 
starting  to  see  that  there  are  shadows  in  the  craters- 


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CC  Roger. 

LMP  That's  the  small  craters.    There,  in  the  Mare 

Procellariim  closest  to  Grimaldi,  there  are  two 
arcuate  rilles.     Look  like  they  are  prohahly 
V-shaped  in  their  cross  section.     I'm  sure  we've 
seen  those  on  the  photographs  much  better  than  I 
can  see  them  here.     Those  -  the  rille  patterns, 
though,  do  seem  to  project  over  into  the  highlands. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  To  the  north  of  that  -  to  the  north  of  that  bay 

of  mare.    Just  interrupt. 

03  15  38  09    LMP  Hey,  I  just  saw  a  flash  on  the  lunar  surface! 

CC  Oh,  yes? 

LMP  It  was  just  out  there  north  of  Grimaldi.  Just 

north  of  Grimaldi.    You  might  see  if  you  got  any- 
thing on  your  seismometers ,  although  a  small  impact 
probably  would  give  a  fair  amount  of  visible  light. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  check. 

LMP  It  was  a  bright  little  flash  right  out  there  near 

that  crater.     See  the  crater  right  at  the  edge  of 
Grimaldi.     Then  there  is  another  one  north  of  it. 
Fairly  sharp  one  north  of  it  is  where  there  was 
just  a  thin  streak  of  light. 

How  about  putting  an  X  on  the  map  where  you  saw  it. 

I  keep  looking  occasionally  for  -  yes,  we  will. 
I  -  I  was  planning  on  looking  for  those  kind  of 
things.     Starting  to  see  the  edge  of  Orientale, 
Gordy.    Way  off  to  the  west.     Hey,  just  yell. 
Gene,  anytime  you  -  - 

03  15  39  h6    LMP  Gordy,  to  the  north  of  Grimaldi  there  is  a  large 

basin  that  is  about  the  same  size  but  only  incom- 
pletely filled  with  mare  in  its  northeastern 
quadrant.     The  rest  of  it  looks  like  a  fairly  ir- 
regular and  hummocky  floor  material  of  some  kind. 


CC 
LMP 


CC 


Roger . 


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But  it's  almost  the  same  size  as  Grimaldi.     It  even 
looks  like  it  is  a  little  bit  deeper,  but,  of 
coiirse,  Grimaldi  has  considerable  fill.  Grimaldi 
on  its  eastern  edge  has  some  of  the  graben ,  or  it ' s 
rim,  if  you  vlll,  is  cut  by  three  or  four  anastomo- 
sing grabens  that  make  it  look  like  some  of  the 
bench  areas  in  the  larger  basins. 

Okay,  the  first  ring  of  Orientale  is  showing  up. 
The  inner  -  next  ring  in  is  extremely  obvious ;  got 
some  very  bright  east  -  east-facing  slopes . 

I'll  turn  off  the  intercom. 

It  has  some  very  bright  east-facing  slopes,  and  you 
can  see  the  bands  of  mare  that  are  filling  the  - 
both  the  first  bench  area  and  the  inner  bench. 

Any  time  you  need  us,  Gordy,  just  interrupt  me. 

Okay;  we'll  do  that. 

Now,  as  I  look  north  along  the  first  bench,  that's 
the  first  bench  from  the  outside,  one  inside  the 
Cordillerian  ring.     I  better  check  that;  I  may  have 
my  names  mixed  up.    Got  Orientale,  there  -  handy? 
See  it.     Should  be  on  there.     Yes,  this  is  what  I 
need.    What's  the  name  -  they  got  a  name  on  that 
ridge,  there?    That's  Rook  Mountains.     Yes,  the 
Cordillera.    Yes,  that's  right.    Looking  just  west 
of  the  Cordillera  on  the  first  bench,  as  I  look 
north,  in  this  light,  which  is  casting  some  shadows 
now,  Gordy,  over  in  the  area,  it  looks  extremely 
smooth.    Now  this  is  not  mare;  it's  lighter  albedo, 
lighter  reflectivity  than  the  mare,  and,  although 
there  are  patches  of  mare  in  the  lower  areas  in  it. 
But  looking  along  that  plain,  in  fact,  a  lar  -  long 
linear  plain,  it  -  it  looks  quite  smooth  with  only 
some  very  broad  undulations  that  appear  to  be 
roughly  radial  to  Orientale  itself.     The  more  - 
closer  we  get  to  it,  the  more  I  see  minor  relief 
showing  up.     I  start  to  see  the  shadows,  I  guess. 
And  that  relief  seems  to  bring  out  a  huramocky  tex- 
ture in  -  in  addition  to  the  craters  you  would 
expect  to  see  there. 


Roger . 


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LMP  I  won't  try  to  give  you  a  trend  on  the  hummocks 

because  I  think  the  shadows  are  biasing  my  view; 
they  do  appear  to  be  north-south  trending,  but  I 
think  that  is  because  of  the  shadow  patterns.  This 
is  a  spectacular  sight,  you  guys;  you  ought  to  take 
a  look  at  Orientale.     One  of  the  largest  fresh 
basins  on  the  Moon.     It  still  is  probably  k  billion 
years  old,  or  3.8  at  any  rate,  if  oxor  dating  cri- 
teria are  any  -  any  good.     It  has  the  outer  Cordil- 
lerian  ring  and  the  inner  ring  called  the  Rook 
Mountains  -  very,  very  nicely  shown.     There  are 
massifs  on  that  inner  ring,  the  Rook  Mountain  ring; 
there  are  massif  complexes  much  like  what  we'll 
be  studying  at  Taurus -Lit trow.    There  are  low  areas, 
nonmare  areas,  that  are  comparable  to  some  -  to  the 
Taiirus  -  the  valley  that  we'll  be  landing  in.  And, 
all  in  all,  I  think  we'll  find  that  our  ring  in  the 
"Taurus-Li tt row  area  around  Serenitatis  is  comparable 
in  many  regards  to  this  Rook  Mountain  ring  around 
Orientale.    You  want  -  did  you  interrupt,  Gordy? 

No.     I  didn't  say  anything. 

03  15  h5  33    LMP  Okay;  I  thought  I  heard  yoiir  key.     Okay;  in  the 

inner  portion  of  Orientale,  as  we  approach  a  ter- 
minator, the  lighting  is  still  excellent.  Matter 
of  fact,  it  appears  brighter  than  what  we  were 
looking  at  over  at  Copernicus.     Now,  part  of  that 
may  be  we're  seeing  much  sharper  relief  since  the 
slope  -  Earth-facing  slopes  are  nicely  lit,  and 
the  backfacing  slopes,  of  course,  are  in  shadow. 
The  first  portion  of  the  bench  inside  the  Rook 
Mountains  is  partially  filled  by  mare.    Now,  the 
higher  land  in  there  is  very  smooth,  in  a  gross 
sense,  is  a  very  smooth  hummocky  terrain,  cut  by 
roughly  circumferential  grabens .     The  trend  of  the 
hummocks  themselves  are  not  radial;  they're  more  - 
well,  they're  about  a  1+5-degree  angle  to  the  radius. 
They,  in  detail,  have  a  much  finer  hackly  texture, 
much  like  we've  been  able  to  see  on  photographs 
before.    And,  in  general,  you  get  the  impression 
that,  in  several  areas  here,  that  that  hackly  tex- 
tured surface  is  draped  over  material  that  resembles 
the  massifs  of  the  Rook  Mountains  themselves. 
There's  one  area  Just  to  the  north  now  of  our  track 
where  there's  a  large,  roughly  equi dimensional 
mountain  mass,  with  a  few  projections  of  massiflike 
peaks  throu^  this  hackly  textured  surface. 


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CC  Roger. 

03  15  UT  51    LMP  There  are  also  some  radial  grabens ;  I  just  now 

picked  one  up,  which  we've  also  seen  on  the  Orien- 
tale  photographs  taken  hy  Lunar  Orhiter.  It's 
amazing  how  fresh  appearing  this  basin  looks,  con- 
sidering its  great  age.     But  it's  -  it  probably  is 
not  -  had  any  more  violent  a  history  than  Imbrium. 
Now,  we're  getting  up,  just  about  to  go  over  a 
delta-rim  crater  that's  out  in  the  basin.     I  don't 
remember  the  name  of  it  offhand.    But  it's  -  should 
be  familiar  to  some  of  the  geologists  who  have  mapped 
this  basin.     It  does  not  appear  to  have  a  strong 
impact  ejecta  blanket  around  it.     It's  filled  with 
mare,  and  it's  quite  sharply  in  contrast  to  a  cra- 
ter of  comparable  size  to  the  northwest.    See  that 
one,  Ron;  I  don't  know  whether  you  can  get  it.  I 
get  a  good  view  out  of  5  now  of  that  one .     And , 
once  again,  it  looks  as  if  this  hackly  textured 
material  that  forms  the  higher  hills  in  the  inner 
bench  -  has  a  draped  appearance  over  the,  over 
preexisting  terrain,  and,  in  fact,  along  the  ridges 
of  the  hunmiocks  ,  you  -  we  now  can  pick  up  little 
rilles  that  roughly  parallel  the  hummocks  ,  although 
not  -  not  -  not  consistently.     They  do  cross  down 
into  the  valleys .     But  it  has  appearance  that  there 
may  have  been  a  tensional  relief  along  the  crest  of 
each  of  the  hummocks ,  or  many  of  the  hummocks . 

CC  Roger. 

03  15  hg  58    LMP  Delta-rim  crater  just  as  has  been,  I  think,  dis- 

cussed in  the  literature,  has  just  that  —  delta 
rim  with  no  obvious  ejecta  blanket  around  it,  com- 
pared to  other  larger  craters  within  the  basin. 
We're  directly  over  that  crater  right  now.  It's 
filled  with  mare,  very  smooth  mare.    Matter  of 
fact,  within  that  fill,  I  can  see  no  -  no  craters. 
Getting  very  close  to  the  Earth  terminator,  but  you 
see  good  texttire  in  the  ejecta  blanket  of  the  large 
crater  in  the  north  -part  of  the  inner  basin  of 
Orientale.    The  radial  ridge  and  valley  patterns 
are  very  clear;  the  concentric  coarse  hummocks  near 
the  rim  are  apparent;  and  you  can  even  see  the 
second  -  patterns  of  secondaries ,  the  larger  sec- 
ondaries, extending  out  away  -  radially  out  away 
from  that  crater.     The  south  -  the  mare  fill  in 


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CDR 

CC 

CDR 


LMP 


CDR 


LMP 


the  south  floor  of  Copernicus,  I  mean  of  Orientale, 
IS  very  smooth  but  does  have  the  sea-svell  texture 
that  we  saw  over  in  Tranquillitatis . 

Better  let  him  say  something  before  AOS. 

I  ain't  got  nothing  to  say. 

Houston,  I  guess  we're  getting  close  to  AOS.  We're 
getting  close  to  AOS.     Do  you  have  some  words  for 
us? 


03  15  51  5I+    CC  Okay.    We  show  about  9  minutes  to  LOS.    We'd  like 

to  clarify  one  thing,  and  that  was  on  this  tape 
recorder  commands  and  high  and  low  bit  rate.  And 
we  just  want  to  make  it  clear  that  preburn  the 
6  minute  callout  is  HIGH  BIT  RATE,  RECORD,  FORWARD, 
COMMAUD  RESET.     Did  you  -  did  you  tell  us  a  few 
minutes  ago  that  you  did  indeed  do  all  those  at 
about  6  minutes? 


Yes,  Gordy,  I  certainly  thought  I  did,  but  I  can't 
specifically  -  I  know  the  HIGH  BIT  RATE  was  there, 
because  we  switched  to  LOW  later.     I  can't  -  I'm 
afraid  I  can't  specifically  verify  the  COMMAND 
RESET. 

Gordy,  I  can  specifically  say  that  when  those  - 
after  the  bus  stars  came  on,  we  called  that  out. 
I'm  almost  sure  Jack  did  get  it,  because  I  had  him 
then  check  the  helium  valves  and  the  nitrogen  - 
helium  and  the  nitrogen  valves, 

CC  Okay.    We're  Just  trying  to  make  sure  if  we  -  or 

to  determine  if  we  do  have  a  switch  problem.  The 
INCO  did  send  LOW  BIT  RATE,  COMMAND,  just  prior 
to  -  to  LOS  there  before  LOI,  which  is  the  way  it's 
called  out  in  the  Flight  Plan.     And  then  you  should 
have  come  along  later  with  a  COMMAND  RESET,  setting 
the  switch  to  HIGH  BIT  RATE,  and  the  COMMAND  RESET 
switched  into  HIGH  BIT  RATE  mode,  and  for  some  rea- 
son it  did  not  go  into  HIGH  BIT  RATE. 


Well,  you  want  to  test  it  out  here,  before  we  go 
around? 


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CC  That's  a  pretty  good  thoiight.     I  think  we  will. 

On  stand  by.    We'll  give  you  -  we'll  figure  out 
how  we're  going  to  do  it  here. 

03  15  5^  27    CC  Okay,  Jack.    We  just  now  coramanded  LOW  BIT  RATE, 

and  you're  in  LOW  BIT  RATE.    We'd  like  you  now  to 
select  HIGH  and  COMMAID  RESET. 

03  15  5h  h3    LMP  Okay.    Gordy,  you  also  have  an  oscillation  in  up- 

link signal  strength  and  a  clicking  in  the  -  in 
the  audio.    Do  you  read?    We  just  switched  steady 
and  at  ahout  60  percent  -  70  percent  signal 
strength. 

CC  Roger.    We  hear  that. 

LMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  -  you  want  me  to  go  ahead  and 

command  HIGH  and  COMMAJTD  RESET? 

03  15  55  Ih    CC  That's  affirmative.    The  HIGH  GAIN  just  went  WIDE 

BEAM,  but  we're  still  reading  you  loud  and  clear. 
Go  ahead  in  HIGH  BIT  RATE  and  COMMAKD  RESET. 

03  15  55  2k    LMP  Okay.     HIGH  BIT  RATE;  COMMAND  RESET. 

CC  Okay;  it  seems  to  have  worked  properly.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     I  may  not  have  got  the  COMMAUD  RESET 

at  6  minutes.     I  -  I  -  I  just  can't  tell  you  right 
now. 

CC  Okay;  I  want  to  assiare  you  it  was  no  big  problem 

as  far  as  the  burn  goes .     No  great  loss  there . 

LMP  I  hope  not . 

03  15  56  36    CC  America,  Houston.    About  5  minutes  to  LOS  now.  We'd 

like  to  have  you  go  ahead  ajid  get  the  jet  inhibits 
and  the  covers  open  as  shown  in  the  Flight  Plan  so 
we  can  see  that  before  we  lose  you. 

LMP  Okay;  Gordy.     IR  COVER  is  coming  OPEN. 

03  15  57  06    LMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Roger. 


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LMP  Okay;  UV  COVER  coming  OPEN  - 

03  15  57  Ih    LMP  MARK  It. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  And  you  want  me  to  stay  in  HIGH  BIT  RATE? 

CC  That's  affirmative.    You're  there.    You're  going  to 

have  to  do  it  in  a  minute  anyway,  so  since  you're 
there  already,  stay  there. 

03  15  57  hi    LMP  Okay.    We're  there;  we've  got  tape  motion. 

CC  Okay. 

03  15  57  53    CDR  Gordy,  the  deadhan  -  or  the  A/C  -  B/D,  A/C  roll  has 

been  changed,  and  you  should  have  the  proper  Jet 
configuration  now. 


CC 


Okay.    We  see  it;  it  looks  good,  Geno. 


CDR  Okay. 

03  15  59  02    LMP  Okay;  if  you're  still  with  us,  we're  going  to  OPEN 

up  the  MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER, 

CC  Okay,  Jack, 

LMP  Okay.    We're  going  to  EXTEND  the  MAPPING  CAMERA. 

CC  Roger  on  that. 

LMP  Okay.  Okay. 

03  15  59  *+0    LMP  MARK.    Barter  pole. 

CC  Roger. 

03  16  17  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  2 

03  16  kh  3h    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  with  you  on  the  OMNI  Delta. 

CC  Roger,  Ron,     Read  you  loud  and  clear. 


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CDR  Okay,  Rotert .    We  should  have  gotten  everjrthing 

right  on  up  through  AOS  here  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

CC  Good  show. 

CDR  And  the  pan  camera  should  be  running  right  now. 

03  16  U5  30    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    America  here.    We  stopped  the  or- 

bital photo  path,  frame  59-    And  about  the  sub- 
stellar  point ,  we  took  59  to  66 ,  and  frame  6T  was 
taken  of  the,  oh,  the  dark  slide  on  the  corner  of 
Lob  ache  vsky. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

LMP  Those  frames  that  Ron  mentioned  -  this  is  Jack  - 

that  he  mentioned  were  taken  of  a  area  where  there ' s 
a  much  lighter  gray  albedo.    Rather  than  the  tannish 
gray,  it's  pure  gray  material  that  generally  is  on 
the  rim  crest  of  a  number  of  craters.     It  may  be 
related  to  the  swirls  that  we  see  elsewhere. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

03  16  h'J  56    LMP  Bob,  we're  abesun  of  Al-Biruni  and  coming  up  on 

Goddard  and  Marginis  right  now. 

CC  Roger,  America.    We're  tracking  you  on  the  map  here, 

watching  it . 

LMP  Okay. 

LMP  Al-Biruni  has  got  variations  in  the  -  its  floor, 

variations  in  albedo.    It  almost  looks  like  a  pat- 
tern as  if  water  were  flowing  on  a  beach.  It's 
that  irregular.     Not  in  great  areas,  but  in  small 
areas  around  on  the  southern  side,  and  the  part 
that  looks  like  it's  a  water— washing  pattern  is  of 
a  much  lighter  albedo,  although  I  cannot  see  ajiy 
real  sotirce  for  it.     The  texture,  however,  looks 
about  the  same. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

03  16  U9  25    CMP  And  Houston,  America.     For  your  info,  it  took  an 

hour  -  an  hour  (laughter)  -  a  minute  and  1+5  seconds 
for  the  map  -  your  mapping  camera  to  extend  and  a 
minute  and  Il5  for  it  to  retract. 


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CC 
CDR 


CC 


Roger,  Ron.  Copy.  l:h^,  extend  and  retract. 
Bob,  what's  our  altitude  now? 


03  16  1*9  58    CC  Looks  like  you're  crossing  -  you're  just  about 

90  miles,  but  we'll  firm  that  up  here,  Gene,  You're 
90.8  -  - 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  -  -  America. 

CDR  Okay;  thank  you. 

LMP  Bob,  this  is  Jack.    And  the  question  of  these  ir- 

regular swirls  that  we've  got  in  Mare  Marginis,  and 
we  are  looking  just  north  of  Nep  -  Neper  now.  I 
tell  you,  in  the  mare,  there  just  is  no  visible 
relief.    Although  there  seem  to  be  some  sinuous 
systematics  anyway  to  the  distribution.  Like, 
there'll  be  a  very  dark  area  associated  with  the 
light  area.    And  that  dark  area  is  darker  than  the 
mare.    I  think  the  pictures '11  show  that.    Now,  in 
the  highlands,  however,  the  -  the  light  albedo 
areas,  which  are  very  comparable,  that  appear  to  be 
swirllike  patterns  of  the  same  type,  seem  to  be 
associated  with  a  crest  of  crater  ridges  and  other 
high  points.    We're  on  over  -  right  over  a  concen- 
tration of  these  now  in  the  northern  part  of  Mar- 
ginis, where  the  rule  of  a  -  of  the  light  areas 
being  associated  with  a  -  either  -  either  symmet- 
rically around  a  much  darker  area  than  the  normal 
mare,  or  on  one  side,  and  in  this  case,  generally 
the  south  side  -  of  a  dark  area  is  -  that  rule  is 
very  clear.    And  that  also  seems  to  hold  in  the  back 
side  that  there  was  a  slightly  darker  region  be- 
tween areas  of  light-colored  swirls. 


Roger,  Jack,  We  understand,  and  we're  standing  by. 
We  have  a  DOI  pad  and  some  other  updates. 


LMP  Okay.    We'll  go  back  to  work. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  PAN  CAMERA,  OFF. 

You're  reading  our  minds.  Bob. 


CDR 


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03  16  53  32    LMP  It's  OFF. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  It's  off. 

CC  PAN  CAMERA'S  OFF,  and  we'd  like  ACCEPT.     We've  got 

the  DOI  target  load,  the  CSM  state  vector,  PIPA  - 
and  an  31^  tailoff  constant. 

03  16  53  k9    CDR  Okay;  you've  got  ACCEPT,  Bob. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    And  there  will  be  no  PIPA  bias. 

CDR  Okay. 

LMP  Bob,  I  can  start  with  that  pad  if  you  want  to. 

CC  Roger.    We're  standing  by.     I'll  start  with  DOI-1. 

Are  you  ready  to  copy? 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

03  16  55  02    CC  Piirpose:    DOI-1,  SPS/G&N;  U0035;  plus  1.90, 


minus  0.6U;  093:11:36.60.  NOUN  8l's  minus  OI9.6, 
all  balls  for  DELTA-V  .     DELTA-V    is  plus  OOUT-8; 

000,  228,  000;  0058.9,  plus  OOlU.5;  0197. 0:22, 
0192. 1;  sextant  star  is  1+5,  187. 5,  19.I.    Let  me 
say  trunnion  again;  it's  I9.I.     The  rest  of  the  pad 
is  not  applicable.    Set  stars  will  be  Sirius  and 
Rigel;  133,  200,  030.    Four  Jet,  I5  second  on  the 
ullage.    Other  coimnents :    overburn  limits,  DELTA-V 
one  seven  -  17  feet  per  second;  burn  time,  2  sec- 
onds. Over. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     Ready  for  a  readback.     DOI-1,  SPS/G&N; 

U0035;  plus  1.90,  minus  0.6I+;  093:11:36.60; 
minus  O19.6,  all  zeros,  plus  OOU7.8;  all  zeros, 
228,  all  zeros;  OO58.9,  plus  OOlU.5;  0197.1*,  0:22, 
0192. 1;  1*5,  187.5,  19.1.     Rest  of  pad  is  NA.  Sirius 
and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030.    Four  Jets,  15  seconds 
ullage.     Overburn  limits:     DELTA-V  7-17  feet  per 
second;  burn  time,  2  seconds. 

CC  Roger ,  Jack .     Good  readback .     Okay ;  I ' ve  got  a  map 

update  for  -  at  93:38  in  the  Flight  Plan. 


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CMP  Okay;  go  ahead.     I  have  it. 


C  Okay,  Ron.    AOS  without  burn,  93:31:37;  with  burn 

is  3h:2k.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.    Without,  93:31:37;  with  burn  is  3h'.2h. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     I've  got  a  -  You  can  go  back  to  BLOCK, 

Ron.    And  on  that  same  page  with  the  J-3,  I've  got 
the  T-horizon  and  TCA. 

CMP  Okay;  ready  to  copy.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     You  can  go  to  BLOCK  on  the  computer. 

T-horizon  time  93:1+8 :0i+;  TCA  minus  20  is  93:50  :UU. 
Over. 

CMP  Okay.     T-horizon,  93:^+8:0^;  TCA  minus  20  is  50:UU. 

CC  Roger.     Good  readback. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    Over  at  93:52,  93:52,  we've  got  a  dif- 

ference in  the  NOUN  69  value. 

CI^P  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     the  ROUN  89s  have  changed  to  the  following: 

NOUN  89,  the  first  one,  plus  20.28l|,  plus  15.151, 
minus  001. 96.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.     It's  a  plus  20.281+,  and  a  plus  I5.I5I, 

minus  001. 96.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    And  here's  a  note  for  you.     The  land- 

mark is  F  Crater,  located  on  landing  site  —  pic- 
ture 1+  of  1+  in  the  Lunar  Landmark  Maps.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.  Understand. 

CC  Okay;  and  I've  got  a  TEI  minus  5  pad.  Over. 

LMP  Okay;  go  ahead.  TEI-5. 

03  17  01  30    CC  Roger,  Jack.    TEI  minus  5-     SPS/G&N;  38 570; 

plus  0.1+9,  plus  0.92;  098:39:1+3.21+.     NOUN  8I , 
plus  2329.8,  minus  2U03.I,  minus  1152.8;  193,  099, 
318.    The  rest  of  the  pad  is  all  not  applicable. 
Set  stars,  Sirius  and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030.  Ullage: 
four  jet,  12  seconds.    Comments:    burn  undocked; 
assumes  a  DOI.  Over. 


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LMP  Okay,  Bob.    TEI-5,  SPS/G&H;  38570;  plus  O.U9, 

plus  0.92;  098:39:'+3.2U;  plus  2329.8,  minus  2lt03.1, 
minus  1152.8;  193,  099,  3l8.    Rest  of  pad  NA. 
Sirius  and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030.    Ullage:  four 
jets  for  12  seconds.    Comment  1:    burn  undocked; 
comment  2:     assume  DDI. 

CC  Good  readback.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.    What  else  can  we  do  for  you? 

CC  Stand  by  1,  here.     I've  got  an  addition  for  Ron 

on  that  comment  about  that  F  Crater  landmark.  Let 
me  get  it.    It's  right  here,  and  I'll  come  right 
up  to  Ron  on  it . 

CMP  Okay;  I'll  standby. 

CC  Ron,  this  additional  coiranent  will  have  -  the  crater 

is  8  nautical  miles  north  of  your  track.     You  will 
lose  the  landmark  at  a  36-degree  elevation  angle. 
,  Over. 

CMP  Okay.     It's  8  miles  north,  and  I'll  lose  it  at 

30  degrees.    Okay;  so  that'll  be  pretty  quick. 

CC  Thirty-six  degrees;  pretty  quick  still. 

CMP  Is  that  the  one  on  Family  Mountain? 

03  IT  05  11    CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.    Let  me  look  at  the  book 

here.    And  I'll  get  Farouk  to  help  me  out  on  that 
one . 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     I've  got  F  Crater,  now.     I'm  all 

squared  away.     Thank  you. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     It's  -  it's  right  in  the  middle  of  that 

landing  site  U  of  it  which  is  right  before  Ache-in[?] 
in  the  book  on  your  -  on  the  Landmark  Tracking  Book. 
,  And  it's  right  dead  center  on  that  page. 

CMP  Okay,  I've  got  it  now.     I  wrote  down  hOk;  it's 

k  of  k. 


03  IT  07  09  LMP 


Okay,  Houston.  We've  got  a  good  shot  of  the  land- 
ing site. 


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CC  Roger.    Understand.     And  Roger,  Ron. 

IMP  The  shadows ,  Boh ,  go  all  the  way  across  the  Scarp 

and  very  long  pyramiding  shadows  go  all  the  way 
past  Family  Mountain.     The  -  looks  like  the  Sciilp- 
tured  Hills  are  lit  up  on  this  side,  hut  it  almost 
puts  the  entire  North  Massif  in  shadow,  from  where 
I  stand. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

03  17  08  07    LMP  Quite  an  interesting  place  to  land  down  there. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO -GEOmro  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


03  1?  08  12    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  We  can  now,  I  think,  see  contrast  down  in  the 

shadow.  And  the  only  part  of  the  scarp  that  is 
visible  -  I  think  Jack  picked  it  out  -  as  being 
right  where  Lara  is. 

CC  Roger.    America,  Houston. 

LMP  Roger;  go  ahead. 

CC  Roger.    Jtist  some  words  in  your  -  You'll  be  going 

through  your  systems  checklist  here  and  you'll 
probably  see  that  it  says  dump  the  waste  water  if 
it's  greater  than  85  percent  and  you  are  at  about 
89.6  percent.    We'd  -  we'd  like  you  not  to  dump  the 
waste  water  until  the  nominal  time  in  the  Flight 
Plan.     Do  not  dump  the  waste  water  during  this 
systems  check.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,  and  I  understand  that  was  about  9^  hours  as 

I  recall. 

CC  That's  affirmative.    That's  where  the  nominal  time 

is  and  that  is  where  we'd  like  it  dumped. 

CDR  Okay . 

CDR  Bob,  that's  a  -  a  fantastic  black-and-white  shot 

of  the  landing  area  with  the  shadow  stretching 
across  most  of  it. 

CC  Roger .    Understand . 

03  17  10  SU    CDR  Bob,  I  can  now  see  down  in  through  the  shadow.  I 

can  see  -  Bare  Mountain.    I  can  see  -  I  can't 
really  make  out  the  -  the  slide  yet.    Most  of  the 
North  Mass  -  Massif  are  still  in  shadow  due  to  the  - 
due  to  the  Sculptured  Hills.    And  just  at  the  point 
where  we  can  start  really  to  see  through  the  shadows 
and  see  the  -  some  hummocky  terrain  on  the  North 
Massif,  it  just  went  out  of  my  next  reach.    But,  I 
did  see  some  sort  of  albedo  change  that  went  across 
the  canyon  about  in  the  vicinity  of  the  -  of  the 
scarp. 


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03  17  12  20    LMP  BoTd,  with  respect  to  the  landing  site  -  this  is 

Jack  -  when  we  had  near  -  or  were  closer  to  low 
phase  angle,  approaching  it  -  when  I  first  had  it 
in  view  -  there  was  a  clear  lightening  in  the  area 
of  the  light  mantle.     It  was  not  sharply  defined, 
but  around  the  crater  Lara  and  Nans en  and  to  the 
west  of  the  scarp  -  there  was  very  clearly,  slightly 
brighter  -  reflectivity. 

CC  Roger ,  Jack . 

03  IT  16  27    CDR  Houston,  America.     The  MAPPING  CAMERA  and  LASER 

ALTIMETER  COVERS  are  CLOSED.     I'm  going  to  ENABLE 
A-1,  A-2,  and  C-2. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CMP  Yes,  it  looks  like  the  old  gravity  gradient  worked 

there  or  something.     I  didn't  see  it  get  out  of 
attitude  at  all.    Did  you  all  see  any  movement  at 
all? 

CC  Max  er  [error?]  was  about  0.2  -  0.3  of  a  degree, 

Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 

03  17  17  35    LMP  I'm  sorry,  Houston.    I  should  have  cued  you  on 

changing  the  SPS  pressure  indicators.    You  want  to 
see  that  again? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that . 

CC  Jack,  it's  not  required  to  go  back  and  do  them 

again;  we  watched  it  on  telemetry. 

LMP  Okay.     I'll  try  to  remember  to  be  a  little  more 

informative . 

03  IT  18  1+6    CC  No  problem.  Jack;  no  problem. 

03  17  28  52    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    There  are  the  torquing  angles. 

CC  Roger.    We  see  them.    They  look  good. 

CMP  Just  for  another  little  matter  of  interest  -  once 

the  Earth  is  in  the  field  of  view,  which  it's 


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about  -  looks  like  it  mist  be  about  12  degrees 
from  Regulus  -  it's  so  bright,  that  it  blacks  out 
any  -  blanks  out  the  telescope  for  any  star  recog- 
nition.   However,  it  worked  real  good  in  the  sex- 
tant.   You  can  see  the  star  real  well.     You  just 
have  to  assume  it's  Regulus,  though. 

CC  Roger.    Would  that  star  angle  difference   

CMP  Okay,  I'll  torque  at  30 . 

03  17  29  35    CMP  I  torqued  at  30  -  09:30. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

CMP  And  the  first  -  the  first  star  angle  difference 

was  -  you  know,  you  can  get  a  little  bit  lax  about 
it  -  if  you  wajit  to  spend  a  little  time  at  it ,  you 
can  get  five  balls  every  time,  looks  like. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    With  that  star  angle  difference  on  the 

second  one,  I  can  assume  it  was  Regulus.     I  think 
you're  safe  in  your  assumption. 

CMP  Oh,  yes.  Right. 

CDR  He  had  to  do  it,  or  else  I'd  have  to  go  down  there 

and  do  it. 

03  17  30  13    CC  Roger. 

03  17  3U  06    CC  America,  Houston.    Vko  looks  good. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine;  we'll  go  ahead  and  maneuver  to 

attitude  then. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  Houston,  I  think  I  put  the  wrong  number  in  on  the 

PITCH.    We'll  correct  it.     It's  228,  isn't  it? 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Gene. 

03  17  35  31    CDR  Okay,  we'll  fix  it. 

03  17  38  09    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 


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03  17  38  20    CDR  You've  got  it. 

CC  Roger . 

03  17  ^1  ^8    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  you  to  hold  off  switch- 

ing to  OMNI  Charlie  \intil  we  cue  you  on  that. 

CDR  Wilco . 

03  17  ^2  k3    LMP  Bob,  this  is  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  Was  there  any  indication  on  the  seismometers  of  an 

impact ,  about  the  time  I  thought  I  saw  a  light 
flash  on  the  surface? 

CC  Stand  by  that  -  we'll  check  on  that.  Jack. 

LMP  Don't  worry  about  it.     Some  -  I  thought  somebody 

was  looking  at  it .     It  could  have  been  one  of  the 
other  light  flashes . 

CC  Roger.    We  copied  the  time  and  -  - 

LMP  I  have  a  place  marked. 

CC  -  -  passed  it  to  the  back  room. 

03  17  ^3  23    LMP  Okay,  I  got  it  marked  on  the  map,  too. 

03  17  51  20    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     The  star  sextant  checks  out  okay. 

03  17  51  2h    CC  Roger,  Gene.     Good  show. 

03  17        kl    CC  America,  Houston.     You  are  GO  for  DDI  and  you  can 

leave  the  high  gain  selected.    We're  holding  good. 

CDR  Okay,  Robert.    DOI .     ...  the  high  gain. 

CC  Ro  -  Gene,  say  again.    You  were  way  down  in  the 

mud  on  that  one.     Can  you  say  again,  please? 

CDR  Roger;  understand.    We  are  GO  for  DOI,  and  you 

have  the  high  gain. 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Gene.     Just  - 


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LMP  Hey,  BoId,  I  know  I've  argued  against  this  kind  of 

thing,  but  you  got  tenths  on  that  burn  time? 

CC  It's  0.1  on  that. 

LMP  Okay,  0.1. 

CC  Jack,  just  some  words  from  the  hack  room  on  you. 

The  a  -  There  may  have  been  em  impact  at  the  time 
you  called,  but  the  Moon  is  still  ringing  from  the 
S-IVB  impact.     So  it's  masked  any  other  -  would  mask 
any  other  impact.    So  they  may  be  able  to  strip  it 
out  at  a  later  time,  but  right  now  they  don't  see 
anything  at  your  called  time. 

03  IT  56  05    IjMP  Just  my  luck. 

03  18  00  39    LMP  Bob,  log  us  for  a  picture  of  the  Earth  at  92:1+0  on 

mag  Oscar  Oscar.    And  we're  on  frame  68. 

CC  Roger,  Jack;  we've  got  that. 

LMP  You've  got  a  lot  of  healthy  weather  out  there  in 

the  Pacific  today.     Looks  like  most  of  those  things 
we  talked  about  yesterday,  up  in  the  Hawaii  region 
and  also  in  the  south,  have  intensified. 

CC  Roger. 

03  18  05  38    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  about  3  minutes  until  LOS 

and  everything  is  looking  great.    No  changes  since 
our  GO  for  DOI .    We'll  expect  to  see  you  at 
93:3i+:2U. 

cm  We'll  see  you  at  93:3U:2U,  Bob. 

03  18  05  58    CC  Roger,  Gene. 


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Tape  62/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 

03  18  25  XX  BEGIN  LUKAE  REV  3 

03  l8  5h  51    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  America,  Houston.    Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay.    And  the  burn  was  good  on  all  counts, 

22-second  burn.    It  was  on  time,  V^^,  1982;  roll 

after  the  burn,  357,  225,  and  003.  Residuals 
were  plus  0,  plus  0.2,  and  plus  0.1.  DELTA-V^^ 

is  0.1,  and  that  was  with  DELTA-V  total  set  into 
the  IMS.    Shotad  have  been  -  should  been  zero 
and  the  residual  on  the  EMS  was  plus  0.1. 
OXIDIZER'S  305,  and  FUEL  is  311  and  an  UNBALANCE 
of  150  DECREASE.    We're  in  a  59.1  by  lh.9. 

CC  Okay,  America;  sounds  great. 

CDR  It  looks  pretty  great. 

CDR  We're  getting  back  down  among  us  where  us  plain 

folks  belong. 

03  l8  56  20    CC  Roger. 

03  19  01  01    LMP  Houston,  this  is. the  LMP.    There  seem  to  be  two 

general  kinds  of  ray  patterns:     those  associated 
with  a  lot  of  secondaries  and  light  colored  and 
those  that  have  no  visible  secondaries.    And  that's 
independent,  yet,  from  the  irregular  light-colored 
areas  we've  been  calling  swirls. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    We're  copying. 

LMP  Houston,  there  also  -  a  lot  more  -  there  is  - 

there  is  a  lot  more  of  that  light-colored  swirl- 
like irregular  material,  or  discoloration  -  if  - 
whatever  you  want  to  call  it,  in  the  back  side 
highlands,  particularly  as  we  approach  Marginis, 
than  I  had  previously  gathered  from  the  available 
photography . 


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CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And  there  still  seems  to  be  no  relief  associated 

with  it.    Although,  in  many  cases,  it  seems  to 
follow  ridge  lines,  or  crater  rims  part  way.  In 
other  cases,  it's  quite  irregular  in  its 
distribution. 


CC  Okay. 

03  19  03  33    CMP  And  bank  A,  that  time,  with  the  chamber  pressure, 

was  up  to  95. 


CC  Roger,  Ron.    And  we  got  tracking  data  on  you;  has 

a  13.1  perigee  -  peri  -  perllune,  rather. 

CDR  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  great.  Bob,  and  we're  still  looking 

at  that  zero  bias  on  the  DC  meter  of  about  5  to 
7  psi. 


CC  Roger. 
CMP  Okay. 

03  19  05  52    LMP  Some  of  the  boys  might  be  interested  to  know  that 

in  a  place  where  the  Sun  is  just  grazing  the  slope 
it's  a  steep  slope  on  the  north  rim  of  Crisixom, 
I  can  see  the  horizontal  lineaments  that  were 
such  a  controvery  on  15. 

CC  Roger.    Understand.    The  north  rim  of  Crisium? 

CDR  •••  big  one  with  the  central  peak. 

LMP  Roger.    There  are  some  very  steep  slopes  that 

just  have  grazing  Sim  on  them  now,  and  with  the 
binocs,  you  can  see  that  horizontal  lineation 
pattern. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  There  it  is.     T-horizon  will  be  good.     Yes.  Okay, 

I've  got  the  edge  of  Crisium  now.     ...  Getting 
hills  on  the  side  of  Crisium,  there.     Sure  a  lot 
smoother-looking  material  than  I  thought  it  would 
be. 


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CC  Ron,  you're  about  1  minute  from  T-horizon. 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.    Thank  you.    Oh.     (Laughter)  Here. 

CC  And,  Ron,  we  -  we're  copying  you  on  VOX,  we  believe. 

Is  that  affirm? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  You're  not  supposed  to  copy  the  other  guys,  though. 

Are  you  copying  the  other  gioys? 

CC  No,  Just  you,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  I  may  have  been  talking  loud. 

03  19  08  03    CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  should  be  at  T-horizon. 

03  19  08  08    LMP  MARK.  T-horizon. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  pointing  at  the  horizon  all  right. 

I  don't  see  the  crater,  yet. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Okay,  I  can  see  the  rims  of  Microbus  [sic]  A  and 

B. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Okay,  I  really  don't  see  it  yet.     I  can  see 

Microbus  A  and  B,  real  well. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  going  to  pick  out  one  and  start  marking 

on  it. 

CMP  1,  2,  3,       5,  6,  7,  8.    That's  the  wrong  one. 

Okay,  now  I  see  what  I'm  supposed  to  mark  on; 
okay. 

CMP  1,  2,  3,  h,  5,  6,  7,  8,  9,  ***  12,  13,  lU,  15, 

16,  17,  18,  19,  20,  21,  22,  23,  and  it's  gone. 


Tape  62/lt 

CMP  Okay? 

03  19  11  23    CMP  No,  the  ones  I  just  wrote  in  there.  Right? 

CMP  Okay?    And,  lets  -  now  I'm  going  to  taJce  a  look 

and  see  if  it  looks  like  a  cinder  cone.  Hey! 
There's  Majraldi  Gamma,  the  mound  sticking  up  there 
right  beside  Maraldi.     Hey,  you  guys  are  going  to 
have  some  good  hills  to  run  down  in  there.  Can 
you  see  it  all  -  at  elLI  ,  coming  up? 

CMP  . . .  north.     That  crazy  radar  is  going  to  he  in  the 

way  -  the  LM  (laughter).  Okay,  it's  going  through 
the  landing  site,  now.  The  shadow  is  just  up  to  - 
You  can  really  see  the  scarp  on  there. 

LMP  See  what  they  mean  by  Sculptured  Hills,  Gene? 

See  the  knobby  characteristics  in  that  -  - 

CDR  Yes.    That'll  be  . . . 

LMP    area  down  there.     That's  part  of  the  Sculpured 

Hills. 

CDR  That's  a  massif  there,  too. 

LMP  Now,  we're  just  over  the  rim  of  Serenitatis, 

looking  over  the  Graben  Plains  -  - 

CMP  Yes,  I  can  just  see.     I'm  going  to  switch  to  17-1. 

3,  h,  5,  6  -  just  got  six  of  them  on  17-1  and 
then  the  other  three  were  were  on  F  -  F  Crater; 
17-1  was  just  barely  in  the  -  Sherlock  was  just 
barely  beyond  the  shadow. 


LMP 


CDR 


This  is  all  supposedly  covered  with  the  dark 
mantle.  Gene,  what  you're  seeing  down  there. 

Yes,  the  Sun  angles  are  so  that  you  can't  tell  the 
difference  in  albedo. 


LMP  And  look  at  those  mare  ridges,  though. 

CDR  I  tell  you,  that's  looking  out  into  the  gray  - 

gray  desert  down  in  there. 


Tape  62/5 


LMP  That's  the  old  Littrow  site. 

CDR  I  think  so.     I  think  we're  just  about  ready  to 

climb . 

LMP  I  think  the  terminator  is  giving  you  the  feeling 

of  that,  maybe.    Ain't  nothing  out  there. 

CC  Jack,  Houston.     Can  you  see  any  albedo  difference 

in  the  landing  site  area  between  the  dark  massif 
and  the  light  area? 

LMP  We  can't  see  any  difference  between  -  in  the  low 

areas,  between  the  dark  mantle  and  other  materials 
right  now.    We're  right  at  the  terminator. 

03  19  ih  ho      CDR  Yes,  but  Jack  and  I  weren't  really  looking  at  the 

landing  site.     I  think  Ron  was. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Jerry,  you  could  really  see  a  difference  between 

the  -  the  South  Massif  and  the  -  the  mantle  mate- 
rial around  through  there .    The  mantle  is  not 
nearly  as  dark  as  it  looks  on  the  pictures ,  though . 
But  the  massif.  South  Massif,  especially,  looked 
almost  a  whitish  color.     I  guess  it's  because  the, 
partly  the  Sun  was  shining  on  it .    But  then  -  - 

CDR  Could  you  see  anything  that  looks  like  the  slide? 

CMP  Oh,  yes.     You  can  see  the  slide  on  the  thing  and 

definitely  see  the  scarp  going  across  through 
there.     I  was  primarily  concentrating  on  looking 
for  the  various  craters  so  I  didn't  spend  that 
much  time,  you  know,  concentrating  on  how  the 
thing  looked.     But  in  the  marks  on  the  thing,  the 
first  about  foxxr  or  five  marks  were  on  F  Crater 
and  then  I  saw  Sherlock  about  halfway  through  it 
and  I  got  about  five  marks  on  the  Sherlock  for 
17-1. 

IMP  Gene . 

03  19  16  25      LMP  Houston,  in  crossing  Crisium  and  Marginis ,  it 

looked  fairly  clear  that  with  the  small  fresh 
craters,  and  I  don't  have  a  good  size  estimate 


Tape  62/6 


right  now  -  I  think  I'm  looking  in  terms  of  100 
or  2  meters .     You  can  distinguish  vhere  blocks 
have  been  thrown  up  by  them,  or  not  -  possibly- 
giving  depth  of  the  local  regolith  from  the 
pictures  you'll  get  in  there. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And,  also,  on  that  lineation  question,  not  only, 

where  the  Sun  grazes  a  -  a  slope  do  you  see  the 
horizontal  lineations ,  but  they're  at  the  southern 
end  of  the  shadowed  area  on  a  slope .     You  get  a 
couple  other  lineations  showing  up  at  least  in  a 
couple  places  I  saw.     One  would  be  parallel  to 
the  slope  -  that  is  cross-contour,  and  the  other 
was  at  a  -  an  angle  to  that  direction  -  oh  -  say 
of  about  30  degrees . 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    We're  copying  you  loud  and  clear 

and  no  problems  with  coram  at  all. 

03  19  18  12      mP  Okay.    We  just  had  sunset. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America.     On  mag  Bravo  Bravo,  75  to 

TO  percent  were  utilized  on  J-3  and  F  Crater  and 
17-1  through  the  sextant. 

CC  Roger,     Just  want  to  confirm,  Ron.     You  started 

on  J-3  and  then  you  went  to  F  Crater  and  - 

CMP  Yes.     I  went  to  F  Crater  and  then  back  to 

Sherlock  or  17-1. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Actually,  on  J-3,  I  took  four  marks  on  a  crater 

that  was  to  the  west  of  J-3  and  then  I  finally 
saw  J-3  and  started  marking  on  it. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.    Mag  Oscar  Oscar  is  85. 

CC  Roger »  Jack.    Thank  you. 

LMP  And,  then  -  okay;  and  there's  a  number  of 

pictures  -  Now,  Just  a  minute,  let  me  try  to  give 
you  a  general  feeling  for  where  they  were  taken. 
St  and  by  1 . 


Tape  62/T 


LMP  Okay;  a  number  of  the  last  pictures  that  were 

taken  on  that  series,  or  that  rev,  were  taken 
between  -  say  about  115  east,  and  -  oh,  about 
100  east  and  they  show  several  examples  of  the 
light-colored  or  swirl  -  - 

CMP  Coming  up  now. 

LMP    alterations  to  the  surface.     And  that's  in 

highland  comtry  where  that  is  a  distinct  gray 
against  the  tan-gray  or  tan  highland  background  - 
general  highland  color. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     I  got  that, 

CMP  And,  all  my  pictures  (laughter). 

CC  Ron,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  move  up  and  do 

the  waste 
cell  purge 


the  waste  water  dump  starting  now  and  the  0^  fuel 


liMP  Okay,  we'll  get  to  that  and  mag  Quebec  Quebec  is 

on  frame  50. 

CC  Roger .    Copy , 

03  19  21  35      CMP  Okay,  you  want  to  dump  the  waste  water  on  the 

front  side? 

CC  That's  affirm,  Ron.    We'd  like  to  get  a  third 

dvimp  now,  so  we  have  it  dumped  prior  to  the 
camera  pass . 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  We  want  to  get  a  dump  prior  to  the  UV  work  there, 

Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  right  -  I'm  sorry,  I  forgot  about 

that. 

CMP  ...  how  ...  going  to  go,  with  BATTERY  VENT  to  -  Okay, 

BATTERY  VENTED,  BATTERY  VENT  is  CLOSED  and  going 
to  DUMP  A. 


03  19  23  31  LMP 


PAN  CAMERA  POWER  going  OFF. 


Tape  62/8 


03  19  2U  2k      LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Beginning  the  fuel  cell  purge  - 

°2- 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

03  19  25  15      CDR  Boh,  any  objections  to  making  that  Vkg  maneuver, 

now? 

CC  Stand  hy  on  that.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  America,  no  objection  to  going  to  VU9  maneuver 

any  time.     Just  do  not  open  the  UV  door  until 
the  9^:1+5  Flight  Plan  time. 

03  19  26  08      CDR  Okay.    We're  with  you. 

03  19  29  25      CDR  Hey,  Gordo.     I  think  we're  still  in  LM  PRESSURE 

up  there  in  the  tunnel.    You  want  us  to  go  back 
to  LM/CM  DELTA-P? 

CC  Okay,  Gordo's  off.     I'll  have  to  wait  a  minute 

here ,  Gene . 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


For  a  Sunday  night,  you're  -  you're  hard  to  get 
along  with. 


CC  Oh,  come  on. 

LMP  Wise  Marines  -  wise  Marines  end  up  in  Antarctica. 


Roger.  Can't  do  that.  They  don't  have  any  gates 
down  there . 

That  sounds  like  a  job  you  could  probably  handle. 


IiMP  Listen,  after  that  answer,  I'll  build  one  down 

there  for  you. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir.    Hey,  you  can  go  to  LM/CM  DELTA-P, 

03  19  30  32      CDR  Okay,  thank  you.  (Laughter) 

03  19  32  29      CC  America,  Houston.     The  fuel  cell  3  purge  can  be 

terminated. 


Tape  62/9 


LMP  I  beat  you. 

03  19  37  37      CDR  Hey,  Bob.    Who  you  talking  to  us  with.  Honeysuckle 

or  Golds tone?    Honeysuckle,  I'd  guess. 

CC  We're  talking  through  Goldst  -  Goldstone,  Gene. 

CDR  Okay,  looks  like  about  a  tossup  from  here.  I'll 

tell  you,  there  is  really  one  heck  of  a  big 
low-pressure  area  developing  somewhere  off  the 
coast  of  California,  Washington,  or  Canada,  out 
in  the  Pacific  Northwest  part  of  the  country. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

CDR  We  were  watching  it  earlier  today,  but  I  tell 

you,  now,  it's  really  dragged  in  some  other 
clouds  with  it.     It  must  cover  an  enormous  dis- 
tance and  it ' s  got  some  real  spectacular 
circulation. 

CC  Just  for  curiosity,  are  you  using  a  monocular  on 

that? 

CDR  No,  I'm  using  a  binocular. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  Bob,  it's  -  it's  got  a  trailing  front.     I  can't 

really  see  the  States,  or  even  the  North  American 
continent,  because  -  - 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack  -  or  Gene.     We'd  like  for  you  to 

terminate  -  - 

CDR  -  -  pretty  well  covered  -  - 

CC  -  -  waste  water  dump. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  Sorry  about  that .    Go  ahead . 

03  19  39  56      CDR  Okay,  I  was  Just  going  to  say,  it's  got  a  -  looks 

like  a  tremendous  trailing  front.  Ro\ighly, 
north-northwest,  south-southeast,  and  it  looks 
like  it  may  Just  sweep  up  the  western  coast.  It's 
hard  to  tell  how  far  off  the  actual  center  rotation 


Tape  62/10 


or  even  a  front  is.     I  Just  remember  from  earlier 
this  morning,  when  I  could  see  landmasses,  that 
it  appeared  to  me  to  he  off  the  Pacific  Northwest 
out  in  the  ocean. 

CC  Roger . 

03  19  U2  21      CC  Jack,  Houston  here.     We've  just  been  kicking 

around  with  Farouk,  and  if  you  get  -  if  you  want 
to,  during  your  -  any  of  your  free  time,  if  you 
have  any,  you  might  look  at  Copernicus  with  your 
binociilars  and  see  if  the  dike  goes  all  the  way  - 
all  the  way  across.    He  would  recommend  using  the 
binoculars.     Don't  take  any  of  your  eat  or  sleep 
time  at  all,  but  you  might  get  a  chance  on  this 
one  eat  pass  to,  as  you  go  by  there. 

IMP  Okay.     I'll  give  her  a  try.     You  might  give  me  a 

couple  minutes'  warning  the  next  time  around. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 


LMP 


CC 


I'm  not  sure  the  attitude  is  too  good  for  that. 
I  wish  I'd  thought  of  it  this  round. 


GC  Roger.     Well,  we  were  pretty  busy  coming  up  on 

it  this  time.     I  think  the  -  that's  why  we  men- 
tioned the  attitude  may  be  okay  during  the  eat 
period.     We  don't  want  you  to  break  away  from 
your  eat  period  unless  you  see  you  can  spare  the 
time . 

03  19  hk  Ok      LMP  Just  looking  at  the  southern  edge  of  Grimaldi , 

Bob,  and  we  probably  have  it  covered  on  photos, 
but  there's  a  nice  tangential  to  slightly  cir- 
cumferential graben  along  the  southern  wall  and 
climbs  out  over  the  western  rim  and  off  the 
eastern  rim,  and  that  graben  is  premare  -  premare. 

Okay ,  I  copy  on  that ,  Jack ,  and  as  long  as  we ' re 
talking  about  Grimaldi,  you  might  just  rem  - 
we'd  like  to  have  you  brief  Ron  exactly  on  the 
location  of  that  flash  you  saw.     We'll  probably 
ask  him  to  take  a  picture  of  it ,  maybe  diuring  one 
of  his  solo  periods . 


Tape  62/11 


CDR  Hey,  Bob,  "before  we  get  awfully  involved,  just 

let  me  tell  you  what  otir  motive  is  here  in  the 
next  couple  of  ho\irs .    That's  to  eat  and  get  done 
what ' s  in  the  Flight  Plan ,  and  come  our  rest 
■period,  we're  probably  going  to  tixrn  out  the  lights 
and  make  sure  everything's  done  by  then  so  we  can 
start  it  on  time  tonight. 

CC  Yes,  that's  a  definite  -  we  concur  with  that 

definitely.  Gene.    Don't  want  you  to  work  into 
your  sleep  period. 


03  19        kk      CDR  Okay. 

03  19  ^7  20      CC  Gene,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 


CC  Gene,  last  night  you  didn't  use  a  tone  booster, 

and  the  work  you  gave  us  was  that  it  had  -  it 
wasn't  working,  and  we're  Just  wondering  if  you 
want  -  we're  thinking  about  working  up  a  test 
board  to  see  if  -  did  you  test  it  out  thoroughly 
to  make  sure  it  wasn't  working,  or  was  that  just 
your  desire  not  to  use  it? 


CDR  We  tried  it ,  Bob ,  and  it  did  not  work .    The  only 

reason  I'm  reluctant  on  a  test  is  I  just  don't 
want  it  to  take  much  time. 

CC  I  don't  think  it  wo\ild  take  much  time.    The  only 

thing  I  could  say  is  it  would  -  you  know  -  two 
obvious  things  I'm  svare  you  checked  them.  Gene, 
would  be  the  utility  power  and  make  sure  you  had 
the  right  lamp  tests  on  when  you  tried  it,  and 
that's  the  only  -  I'm  sure  you  did  it,  and  that's 
the  only  obvious  thing  -  maybe  a  circuit  breaker 
or  something  like  that. 

CDR  Well,  we  checked  it  both  on  the  left  side  and  on 

the  right  side  with  two  separate  UTILITY  POWERS 
and  verified  that  the  MASTER  ALARMs  came  on  with 
the  test  on  both  sides,  and  nothing  ever  happened. 

CC  Roger.     I  was  sure  of  that.  Gene.    Just  wanted  to 

make  it  -  put  everybody  at  ease  that  it's  just  not 
working.     That  was  essentially  the  test.  Just 
forget  anything  we  said  about  tests , 


Tape  62/12 


CDR  Okay. 

IMP  What  test? 

CC  Roger .    Got  you  g\iys  trained  up  there ,  finally . 

03  19  ^9  09      LMP  Art,  arf . 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Roger.    Go  ahead,  Ron- 

CMP  If  I  don't  find  my  scissors  here  one  of  these 

days,  I  think  it  takes  about  fo\ir  bolts  on  either 
side  of  the  -  you  know  the  optics,  where  they 
stow  the  optics?    It  looks  like  there  are  four 
little  tool  E  bolts  that'll  come  out.    And  I 
think  maybe  they  might  be  back  behind  there ,  I 
don't  know.     See,  there's  a  great  big  slot  up  at 
the  top  of  that  -  oh ,  it ' s  at  least  an  inch  -  inch 
between  the  top  of  the  optics  thing  and  the  top 
of  the  spacecraft.     I  looked  back  in  there  with 
a  flashlight  and  can't  see  anything,  but  it's  a 
big  hole  back  there  anyhow. 

LMP  I  think  the  commander  might  have  something  to  say. 

CDR  Hey,  Bob,  Just  ignore  everything  he  said.  We'll 

leave  him  a  pair  of  our  scissors,  and  he's  Just 
worried  about  being  hungry. 

Roger.    Those  are  your  EVA  scissors,  too,  aren't 
they? 


CC 


CDR  But,  he  is  not  -  Yes,  but  we  can  handle  -  we  can 

handle  it  with  one  down  there .    He  is  not  taking 
the  spacecrEift  apart  to  find  his  scissors ,  and 
I  will  not  let  him  go  hungry. 

CC  Roger . 

03  19  50  ho      CMP  Okay,  either  way. 

03  19  55  U6      LMP  Hey,  Bob,  before  we  lose  you,  how  did  the  Oilers 

do  today?  (Laughter) 

CC  9  to  3.     Stealers  over  the  Oilers. 


Tape  62/13 


IMP 
CC 
lilP 
CC 

IMP 

CC 

LMP 

CC 
LMP 
CC 
IMP 

CC 
LMP 

03  19  58  12  CC 

CDR 

CC 
CDR 


9  to  3? 
That's  affirm. 
9?    09  to  03? 

That's  affirmative.    Played  one  of  their  better 
games,  I  guess. 

How  about  the  Chicago  Bears?  You  got  their  score 
handy? 

Hey,  Jack,  how  about  if  we  pick  you  up  during  the 
eat  period.  While  you're  eating,  we'll  brief  you 
of  the  whole  NFL  situation  for  today.  Okay? 

Well,  we  are  eating.     I  guess  we  wait  xmtil  we 
come  around  next  time.  Okay. 

Oh  -  I  -  the  Bears  were  -  - 


-  -  the  last  we  heard,  the  Bears  were  losing. 

Bob,  we'll  wait  and  you  can  get  up  the  late  evening 
news  prepared  for  us  here  the  next  time  around. 

Okay.    Have  your  gourmet  dinner  and  I'll  give  you 
the  news . 

Okay. 

America,  Houston.    We're  going  to  lose  you  here 
in  about  2-1/2  minutes.    We'll  see  you  at  95=28, 
according  to  the  Flight  Plan,  and  you're  looking 
good.    We  don't  have  sinything,  ajiy  anomalies  or 
6inything  against  you  right  now.    You're  looking 
great . 

Thank  you,  Robert.    We'll  see  you  coming  around 
the  horn. 

Roger . 

Hey,  Bob,  if  you  could,  it  might  be  appreciated 
with  a  word  or  two  from  our  home  fronts. 


Tape  62/1I+ 


CC  Yes.    You  didn't  let  me  do  it .    I  was  going  to 

give  them  all  a  call  while  on  this  LOS  here.  Gene, 

CDR  It's  that  thing  again.     I  bet  you  were  concen- 

trating on  the  dot . 

03  20  00  15      CC  Hey,  guys.    The  Bears  21  to  12  over  Philadelphia. 

CDR  Thank  you.    We're  going  to  watch  your  signal  get 

cut  off  here. 

CC  Roger.    Was  touch  and  go  on  that  because  at  one 

time  they're  losing  that  game. 

03  20  00  30      CDR  I  watch. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  63/3 


IMP  Okay.    Go  ahead. 

CC  TEI-19,  SPS/GSsN;  38023;  plus  O.U9,  plus  0.86; 

the  T.    time,  125:U6:U7.22;  plus  21+56.3,  minus  1925.3, 

minus  0731.3;  I86,  IO8,  325.     Rest  of  the  pad  is 
not  applicable.    All  the  notes  are  the  same  as  on 
the  TEI-12  pad,  except  the  longitude  is  minus  1U7.62. 
Over. 

LMP  Stand  by  1. 

03  20  58  20    LMP  Okay.    Here's  your  readback.    TEI-19,  SPS/G&N; 

38023;  plus  O.U9,  :plus  0.86;  125:1*6:1+7.22; 
'•-^  pius-P'56i 3  j-'miiiaS^ ^192573 ;  mimis^073l.3;  186,  108, 
-  •  325i  ■  Rest 'tepi*-  pSa  i's^A  J    And  the  remarks  are  the 
iaM  Ss^  for^#Ei^l2;  <-th'i€  includes  set  stars.  And 


ji:<'^<!  .Kse-'d  .elJ;  I  £.;  q^h^oonl^  fehaigef-iS^^'tlie'^'S,  which  is  the  lunar  longi- 
3::B'iLc  .i-^axj-zi':,'.  &nj  r  ct^gbat  TiJi-ioi" 'a%in^t§-£U7.62.  Over. 

CC  That's  a  good -riadlfScK /-Jack.  "^i-'ve-lot'^a^tM-BAP 

read-up  here  for  you.     They  recommend  this  be 

i       21    1  .  -  (c'-y;.!-    ::<^  -  eSfiM-eii  fage^IJof  tfi^CJLM  Data*  eJard  Book,  Jack. 

J   n,,  ;v:.:^:.,.?rj        ;^:=i:  'lUo'r  ;OFn  ,  GO':  ,t£i  .-LSsiS 

;  /  :  .     : ]a9t>;     n -  i^Wellv^g'tgafigsaiy  eKCrtight^-the  LM  Data  Card  Book's 

CC  Yes,  I  figured  as  much. 

LMP  We'll  put  it  in  our  Activation  Book.     Let  me  find 

c:^y',:^r:A     lirt^  f^-- - ^^^^^^-cth^ys-ight^ageis'; ' 

IMP  Let  me  find  the  right  page. 

^.i-;  :Sv       :;':ja  ..v^.C  ;OV?oJ    jVii^O'. ','Ic: 

03:i20  59  i+5- ,-CC.         ^  xA8§y  :J§gk»  .th|S  ppmgutgrJIfS  yours. 

03,^1^00^.56^    LMg.;^;.^GO  aJiead,:^Ob^ 

be    ' '     "dicay^"  L^^dIp 'infojtifetio^      LM  weight,  367llt; 
,  CSM  weight,  58078. 


Tape  63/2 


CC  Okay.    Now,  j\ist  a  note,  or  you  can  Jump  way 

ahead  to  106:51  where  it  says  delete.    See  where 
it  says  UV,  OFF;  just  delete  that  or  else  make 
it  a  verified,  hecause  it  will  be  off  during  that 
whole  period. 

LMP  106,    Yes,  I'll  Just  put  a  verified  hy  that;  106:51- 

CC  Roger.    The  next  thing  I've  got  are  the  pads.  The 

TEI-12  and  TBI -19  pad. 

LMP  Ok€^.     Go  ahead. 

CC  The  first  one  is  TEI-12,  SPS/GM;  3857O;  plus  0.U9, 

plus  0.92;  NOUN  33  times,  111:5^:^2.86;  plus  251*3.8, 
minus  1765-6,  minus  0795-0.    Roll  is  186,  109,  328. 
Rest  of  the  pad  is  not  applicable.    Break,  break, 
Jack.    We'd  like  ACCEPT  on  the  computer,  please. 


03  20  53  21    LMP  You  got  it. 


CC  Oke^.    The  set  stars  are,  as  always ,  Sirius  and 

Rigel;  133,  200,  030 j  fo\ir  jet;  12  seconds  on  the 
ullage.    Three  notes:    Burn  undocked,  assumes  no 
circ,  longitude  of  the  Moon  at  T.    -  it'll  be 
minus  llt0.19  degrees.    Over.  ® 

IMP  Bob,  give  me  note  2  again,  please. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    The  three  comments  are:  Assumes 

burn  \mdocked.    Asstjmes  no  circ  burn.    And  the 
Moon  at  T^^,  the  longitude '11  be  minus  lUO.19  de- 
grees .    Over . 

IMP  Okay.    I  got  everything  but  number  2.    All  right, 

here's  your  readback.    TEI-12,  12,  that  is; 
SPS/GMT;  38570 ;  plus  O.U9,  plus  0.92;  111:51*:  1+2. 86; 
plus  251*3.8,  minus  1765.6,  minus  0795.0.    I86,  109, 
328.    Sirius  and  -  Rest  of  the  pad  is  NA.  Slrlua 
and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030.    Ullage  is  foia-  jets 
for  12  seconds.    Remarks:    1,  burn  undocked; 
2,  assume  no  circ;  3,  longitude  -  lunar  longitude 
at  T^g,  minus  lUo.19  degrees,  .19  degrees. 

CC  Roger.    Good  readback.  Jack.    And  I've  got  the 

TEI-19  pad,  if  you're  ready. 


Tape  63/3 


IMP  Okay.     Go  ahead. 

CC  TEI-19,  SPS/G&K;  38023;  plus  0.1i9,  plus  0.86; 

the  T,     time,  125:^6:^7.22;  plus  2U56.3,  minus  1925.3, 

minus  0731.3;  I86,  IO8,  325.    Rest  of  the  pad  is 
not  applicable.    All  the  notes  are  the  same  as  on 
the  TEI-12  pad,  except  the  longitude  is  minus  1U7.62. 
Over. 


LMP  Stand  by  1. 

03  20  58  20    LMP  Okay.    Here's  your  readback.     TEI-I9,  SPS/G&N; 

38023;  plus  0.h9,  plus  0.86;  125:1^6:1+7.22; 
plus  2U56.3,  minvis  1925-3;  minus  0731.3;  I86,  IO8, 
325.    Rest  of  pad  is  NA.    And  the  remarks  are  the 
same  as  for  TEI-12;  that  includes  set  stars.  And 
the  only  change  is  the  3,  which  is  the  lunar  longi- 
tude at  T.     of  a  mimas  1^7.62.  Over. 

CC  That's  a  good  readback.  Jack.     I've  got  a  LM  DAP 

read-up  here  for  you.    They  reconmiend  this  be 
copied  on  page  1  of  the  LM  Data  Card  Book,  Jack. 


LMP  Well,  strangely  enough,  the  LM  Data  Card  Book's 

in  the  LM. 


CC  Yes,  I  figured  as  much. 

LMP  We'll  put  it  in  our  Activation  Book.     Let  me  find 

the  right  page. 

CC  Okay. 

IMP  Let  me  find  the  right  page. 

CC  Roger. 

03  20  59  U5    CC  And,  Jack,  the  computer's  yours. 

LMP  Okay. 

03  21  00  56    LMP  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     LM  DAP  information:     LM  weight,  3671U; 

CSM  weight,  38078. 


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LMP  Okay.     The  DAP  load  is  LM  weight,  3671^^;  CSM 

weight,  38078. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     And  I'd  like  to  correct  one  call  on 

my  -  the  TEI  pads.  There  is  one  other  difference 
"between  the  TEI-19  and  the  TEI-12  on  their  notes. 
And  the  TEI-19  assumes  a  circ  hurn.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.    That's  corrected  to  assume  circ  on  the 

TEI-19. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     I'm  sorry  on  that.     I've  got  some  - 

some  notes  from  the  Flight  Surgeon  -  - 

LMP  That's  all  right.  Bob. 

CC  Got  some  notes  for  Gene  from  the  Flight  Surgeon. 

He  promised  an  update  to  you  on  some  meal  recom- 
mendations here  on  food  -  if  you  -  you  might  want 
to  copy  this  into  the  supplement. 

CDR  Okay.    Just  stand  by  1,  please. 

CC  Roger. 

03  21  03  56    CDR  Bob,  let  us  take  a  look  at  the  landing  area  and 

we'll  be  right  back  with  you. 

CC  Okay.     Just  whenever  you  want  it,  there's  no  hurry 

on  this  at  all.    Jack,  you  Just  might  put  a  little 
note  there  somewhere  for  yourself  -  Copernicus 
at  96:03  -  if  you  want  to  look  at  it. 

LMP  Okay;  96.03. 

03  21  06  55    LMP  Now  we're  getting  some  clear  -  look  like  pretty 

clear  high-water  marks  on  the  -  - 

CMP  There's  high-water  marks  all  over  the  place  there. 

LMP  -  -  on  the  north  part  of  Tranquillitatis  in  here  - 

mare  onto  the  highlands. 

CC  Roger. 


\ 


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CMP  Yes,  there's  high-water  marks  all  over  that  - 

that  -  I  think  that's  Maraldi  there,  isn't  It? 
Are  you  sure  we're  at  13  miles  up? 

CC  You're  at  lU.l,  to  be  exact,  Ron. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Looks  pretty  low. 

CDR  Gee,  I  wonder  what  it  feels  like  to  be  at  8  to  10 

CC  You're  going  to  find  out,  I  think. 

03  21  08  IT    LMP  I  tell  you  there's  some  mare  ridge  or  scarps. 


very  sinuous  -  just  passing  one.     They  not  only 
cross  the  low  planar  areas  hut  go  right  up  the 
side  of  a  crater  in  one  place  and  a  hill  in 
another.    And  it's  not  at  all  like  a  fault  scarp. 
It  looks  very  much  like  a  constructional  ridge. 
And  it  has  the  sinuousity  of  a,  pardon  the  ex- 
pression, rattle  snake. 

CC  Roger.    Does  it  look  like  that  one  we  saw  on  the 

track  the  other  day? 

IiMP  Yes,  very  much  like  that  one  that  you  almost 

caught.     Look  at  that.     There's  a  tongue  depress 
several  of  them  -  grabens  in  here.    We  must  be 
out  on  the  edge  of  Serenitatls  now,  right? 

CC  Yes,  we  show  you  on  the  edge  of  Serenitatis , 

Jack. 

LMP  Roger.     I  jiost  -  we  didn't  get  a  view  of  the  site 

though,  going  over  this  time.    I  think  it  was  off 
to  the  north  of  us  Just  a  tad.     That's  the  best 
example  of  a  mare  -  marelike  ridge  that  was  as 
clearly  constructional  as  I  would  want  to  see  it. 
Out  on  the  mare,  it's  never  quite  that  obvious. 
But  there ,  it  climbed  up  over  a  hill  and  then 
back  down  again. 

CC  Roger. 

MP  And  that  was  Just  east  of  the  -  an  area  just 

east  of  the  edge  of  Serenitatis  and  probably  a 

little  bit  south  of  the  landing  site. 


Tape  63/6 


cm 

CC 

CDR 

CC 


CDR 

CC 
CDR 
CMP 
CC 

03  21  11  19  CMP 

CC 

CMP 
LMP 

03  21  12  23  LMP 
CC 
LMP 


Say,  Bob,  rather  than  copy  specific  recommended 
changes  or  deletions  to  a  diet,  can  you  have  a 
general  comment  that's  any  different  than  what 
I  already  iinderstand? 

Right.    It's  no  problem. 

If  not ,  I  would  rather  delay  it . 

It's  no  problem.  Gene.     Two  quick  comments:  the 
next  couple  of  days,  delete  the  peaxih  ambrosia 
and  the  mixed  fruit  bar,  and  don't  delete  anything 
from  the  LM  menu.    And  make  sure  you  get  all  the 
water  in  for  rehydration,  and  take  -  bias  it  if 
you  think  you  get  30  percent  gas ,  then  put  in 
30  percent  more  so  you  get  all  the  water  that  is 
required.    And  take  two  antigas  tablets  after  each 
meal  instead  of  one.     That  sums  it  up. 

Okay  -  Okay.    Very  good.    I'll  -  I'll  handle  all 
those  words  according  to  their  needs. 

Roger . 

Appreciate  them,  though. 
Houston,  America. 
Go  ahead. 

We're  shooting  magazine  QQ,  frame  50  -  frame  50, 
51,  and  52,    We're  taking  -  looking  south  at 
the  terminator. 

Ron,  we  need  to  get  looking  at  the  pan  camera 
here,  per  the  Flight  Plan. 

Thank  you. 

Okay,  Bob.     POWER  on  the  PAN  CAMERA  now. 
MARK  it. 

Roger.     We  got  it. 

Okay.     And  has  my  biomed  been  looking  all  right? 


Tape  63/T 


GC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  Okay. 

03  21  13  k2    CC  America,  you  can  turn  the  PAN  CAMERA »  OFF. 

IMP  Okay.     PAW  CAMERA,  going  OFF. 

03  21  13  52    LMP  MAEK. 

03  21  15  22    CDR  . . .  the  up-link . 

03  21  20  29    LMP  Okay,  Boh.     Let's  see.    Will  Copernicus  -  will  be 

north  of  our  track.    Is  that  correct? 

CO  I  helieve  so,  from  my  charts  here,  but  let  me 

doublecheck  that.    That  is  affirmative.  Tommy 
just  gave  me  the  up  on  that  one. 

CC  If  you  guys  got  time  to  listen,  I  can  update  you 

on  the  homefront  while  you're  wor  -  looking  out 
the  windows. 

CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  Let's  see.     For  the  CDR,  they're  eating  beans  and 

combread  over  at  Nassau  Bay  tonight.  Probably 
a  good  thing  they're  eating  beans  there.  Gene, 
becaxise  you're  feeding  25  tonight.    And  the  horse 
is  getting  fed,  also. 

CDR  Beans  and  combread?    It's  a  good  thing  I'm  eating 

up  here. 

CC  You  better  believe  it.    And,  of  course,  everybody 

sends  their  love.    And  over  in  El  Lago,  they're, 
well  -  Go  ahead.,  Gene. 

CDR  I  was  Just  going  to  ask  you  to  return  mine  for  me, 

would  you? 

CC  Oh,  you  better  believe  it.    They're  listening  to 

the  squawk  box.    You  don't  have  to  say  anything 
to  me.    And  over  in  El  Lago,  Jamie's  saying  -  is 
saying  her  prayers  ending  them  with,  "God  bless 
America  and  Challenger  from  now  on."    And  John  is 
saying,  "There's  Daddy's  rocket  -  makes  it  go  pitch, 
light  out."    And  of  course,  everybody  sends  their 
love  -  - 


Tape  63/8 


CMP  They're  great. 

CC  And  they're  all  listening  right  now  if  you'd   

CMP  Tell  John,  though,  that  I  shaved  the  other  night. 

CC  Roger.     He'll  he  listening,  hearing  that.  They're 

all  over  at  the  -  in  Nassau  Bay  at  a  hig  meeting 
of  the  Flight  Plan.     The  Parkers  are  briefing  the 
Cernans  and  the  Evans  on  the  Flight  Plan  tonight. 
And  out  in  Tucson,  for  the  LMP,  it's  kind  of  cloudy 
and  cold  out  there  today.     It's  colder  than  normal. 
Everything's  working  fine  on  the  speaker  out  there. 
Jack,  and  they're  just  listening,  and  Mother  - 
your  Mother  is  really  tickled  and  just  pleased  as 
all  get  out. 

03  21  23  22    LMP  That  sounds  like  Mother.    And  I  just  got  a  real 

good  view  of  Copernicus,  but  I'm  afraid  I  can't 
help  you  out  on  that  structure  in  the  central 
peak.    Just  a  little  too  dark. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  But  it's  a  fantastic  sight  at  this  altitude. 

It  is  a  big  crater.     It  looks  like  it's  about 
80  kilometers  in  diameter. 

CC  I'll  drink  to  that. 

03  21  2k  01    LMP  And  put  down  a  verify  on  those  dark  deposits  in 

the  wall.  And  also  on  the  southeast  wall,  there's 
one  ri^t  on  the  rim.  I  think  we  mapped  that  one, 
too,  but  I'll  have  to  go  back  and  check. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  That  one  looked  like  it  had  a  crater  in  it.  How- 

ever, they  all  tend  to  be  elongate  radially,  with 
respect  to  the  crater.     But  that's  about  all  I 
can  add  now. 


CC 


Okay. 


Tape  63/9 


LMP  Bob,  I'm  glad,  the  squawk  "box  is  fixed.    And,  of 

course,  send  my  love  and  best  wishes  out  there 
to  Tucson. 

CC  That's  a  Roger,  Jack.    You  guys  might  also  be 

interested,  here  in  the  Houston  area,  all  of  the 
ground  voice  or  air-to-ground  is  being  carried  on 

stations  a  hundred  percent  of  it.    And  KUHT, 
the  television  station,  will  cover  the  -  educa- 
tional TV  station  -  is  going  to  cover  100  percent 
of  the  EVAs,  all  three  of  them,  for  all  the  time. 

CDR  That  sounds  great.    We  hope  we  can  provide  them 

with  as  much  education  as  we  can  entertainment . 

CC  We're  counting  on  it. 

CDR  I  guess  Parker's  all  we  had  left  down  there  to 

brief  them  on  the  Isinding  site ,  huh? 

CC  \[  won't  even  comment  on  that  one. 

CDR  (Chuckle)    Okay.     I  figure  he  will  later. 

CDR  I'd  like,  aJLso,  to  send  my  best  up  north  to  the 

Bellwood  -  the  Bellwood  area  up  there ,  because  I 
think  there's  a  squawk  box  up  there,  too. 

CC  Beautifia, 

CDR  And,  Bob,  it's  -  all  in  all,  it's  been  a  pretty 

exciting  day.     I  think  a  pretty  accomplishing 
day,  and  certainly  a  rewarding  day  on  our  part. 
It ' s  also  been  a  long  day ,  but  we ' re  hoping  that 
it  can  only  be  superseded  by  tomorrow.    And  judg- 
ing from  what  we've  got  in  store,  it  might  very 
well  be. 

CC  I  think  that  sums  up  the  day.     It's  a  day  of 

anticipation  for  what's  going  to  happen  tomorrow. 
Everything's  gone  off  real  well  here,  and  we're 
Just  glad  you're  in  the  orbit  you're  in  and  ready 
for  tomorrow. 


Tape  63/10 


LMP  Hy  goodness.  Bob.     This  is  Jack.     It's  awful 

hard  to  spend  much  time  up  here  anticipating.  The 
events  come  so  fast  and  certainly  are  exciting 
and  rewarding,  each  one,  one  at  a  time.    But  ob- 
viously, tomorrow  is  going  to  he  the  biggy. 

CC  Roger . 

03  21  27         CC  Ron,  we're  watching  your  52;  and  just  be  advised 

you  do  not  have  to  do  the  option  1. 

CMP  Okay.     Real  fine.  Bob. 

LMP  Bob,  I'm  not  sure  whether  it's  entirely  proper, 

being  a  bachelor,  but  I'd  like  to  send  nry  regards 
to  everybody  -  all  the  families  listening  to  squawk 
boxes  tonight . 

CC  Roger. 

03  21  29  5U    LMP  Bob,  we're  going  right  over  the  Procellarum  Ridge 

now,  if  I'm  not  mistaken,  out  in  the  middle  of 
Mare  Procellarum.    And  we're  low  enough  now  that 
you  can  see  some  of  the  terrain. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  That  is  -  that  is,  some  of  the  hills  and  rilles 

and  valleys  associated  with  that  ridge  system. 

03  21  30  22    CC  Roger.     Break.     Ron,  we've  got  the  52,  and  it 

looks  good.    You  can  torque. 

CMP  Okay.     I'll  torque  it  10,  3,  0. 

03  21  32  Oh    CMP  Houston,  America.     You  want  an  E-raemory  dump? 

CC  Roger.    We're  standing  by.     We're  ready  for  it. 

03  21  32  18    CMP  Okay.     VERB  ih  -  [sic] 

03  21  33  02    CMP  The  GDC  is  aligned,  and  we  verified  that  the  LM 

valve  is  in  LM/CM  DELTA-P. 

CC  Roger.    We  got  you. 


Tape  63/11 


The  E-MOD  is  finished,  Ron. 
Okay.    Thajifc  you. 

Ron,  we're  ready  to  up-link  the  Jet  monitor  pro- 
gram and  one  of  the  burn  constants . 

Okay.    You  have  CMC  and  ACCEPT. 

Okay. 

P20  and  ACCEPT. 

While  you're  eating  or  getting  ready  to  eat,  I 
can  update  some  of  the  news  for  you  tonight,  if 
you're  away  from  the  windows.     Or  are  y'all  still 
looking  out? 

No .     Go  ahead ,  Boh . 

Okay.     There's  not  a  whole  lot  of  news  on  the 
wire  tonight,  matter  of  fact.     President  Nixon 
received  a  firsthand  report  on  private  Vietnam 
peace  negotiations  today  from  a  key  member  of  the 
U.S.  negotiating  team,  General  Alexander  Haig,  Jr., 
Henry  Kissinger's  Chief  Lieutenant.     Halg  flew 
back  from  Paris  to  report  to  the  President,  while 
technical  experts  from  both  sides  held  an  unusual 
Sunday  meeting  in  the  French  capitol.  Presidential 
Assistant  Kissinger  will  resume  his  talks  with 
North  Vietnam's  Le  Due  Tho  on  Monday  after  a 
1-day  recess.    And  former  President  Harry  Truman 
continued  to  show  some  signs  of  improvement  late 
today  after  he  was  earlier  removed  from  the  crit- 
ical list  at  Research  Hospital  up  -  up  in  Kansas 
City.     His  cardiac  situation  has  improved,  and 
this  improvement  included  a  slower  and  stronger 
pulse  and  a  stable  blood  pressure.    The  football 
scores  are  as  follows  in  the  National  Football 
League  today:    The  Bears  defeated  the  Eagles 
21  to  12;  the  Detroit  Lions  and  the  Buffalo  Bills 
played  to  a  21-21  standoff;  Dolphins  extended 
their  undefeated  streak  23  to  13  over  the  New 
York  Giants ;  the  Patriots  defeated  the  New  Orleans 
Saints  IT  to  10;  Green  Bay  sewed  up  the  Central 


Division  of  the  NPC  by  defeating  the  Vikings 
23  to  T;  the  Cardinals  upset  the  Rams  today  2h  to 
lU;  Denver  defeated  San  Diego  38-13;  Kansas  City 
upset  Baltimore  2k  to  10 ;  the  Upers  defeated  the 
Falcons  20  to  nothing,  20  to  0;  and  Pittsburg 
defeated  Houston  9  to  3,  and  they  -  they  took 
the  Central  Division  of  the  AFC.     So  the  playoff 
picture  is  becoming  a  little  clearer.  You've 
got  -  In  the  NFC,  you've  got  Washington,  Dallas, 
and  Green  Bay.    And  tlie  fourth  teaia  will  either 
be  San  Francisco,  Los  Angeles,  or  Atlanta.  That 
will  be  decided  next  week.     In  the  AFC,  Pittsburg, 
Miami,  and  Oakland  are  in  it.    And  the  fourth 
team  will  be  either  the  Jets  -  and  another  team. 
They've  got  the  Giants  listed  here,  but  it  can't 
be  the  Giants  because  that's  the  wrong  division. 
So  we'll  -  we'll  check  that  one  out.  Cleveland; 
okay,  Cleveland.     The  fourth  team  is  either  going 
to  be  Cleveland  or  the  Jets.     And  did  you  get  a 
spurious  MASTER  CAUTION  and  WARNING? 

No.     Ron  was  retesting  our  bleeper  again. 

Okay. 

And  it's  one  of  those  that  worked  in  lunar  orbit, 
I  guess.     It  doesn't  work  dxiring  coast  because  it's 
working  now. 

Good  show. 

Sounds  like  there's  going  to  be  some  good  football 
games  coming  up. 

Yes,  indeed.    You  really  can't  call  -  - 
Who  Is  playing  tomorrow  night? 
Stand  by. 

That's  the  Oakland  -  Oakland  and  the  Jets. 

Ron,  the  up-link  is  complete.    The  EMP  is  running, 
and  the  computer  is  yours . 

Okay ,  Bob .    We  got  it  back . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  6U/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


03  21  UU  08    CC  Ron,  we  wo\ad  like  the       TANK  FANs,  ON,  and  that 

will  be  the  sleep  conf igTiration.         TANK  1  FANs, 
ON.    And  leave  3  in  AUTO  like  it  is. 

CDR  You  want        TANK  1  -  You  want  1  and  2  ON? 

CC  Negative.     TANK  1  ON. 

CDR  Okay,  that  leaves  us  with  TANK  1,  ON;  TANK  2,  OFF; 

and  TANK  3  in  AUTO.     Is  that  what  you  want? 

CC  Roger.     If  you're  calling        fans;  that's  what  we 

want. 


CDR 


Yes,  FANS,  Boh;  I'll  say  it  again.  FANs: 
1  is  ON,  2  is  OFF,  and  3  is  AUTO. 


CC  That's  a  good  configuration,  and  that  will  he  the 

sleep  configuration. 

CDR  Okay. 

CDR  Hey,  Bob,  it  looks  like  we  might  make  -  getting  to 

sleep  on  time  tonight,  and  -  well,  we  will  make 
it.    And  I  think  it  goes  without  saying,  we  def- 
initely weint  to  get  up  on  time  tomorrow. 

CC  Roger. 

03  21  k3  53    CMP  I'm  going  to  have  the  tone  booster  plugged  in, 

and  also  I  want  to  make  sure  the  suit  power  and 
audio  power  and  all  that  stuff  is  on. 

03  21  U6  01    CC  Roger. 

03  21  h9  30    CC  Ron,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead,  Bob. 

CC  If  Ron's  listening,  just  some  words  about  the 

mapping  camera  extend/retract  times.    We  came  up 
with  slightly  different  times  than  what  he'd 


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called  and  we  were  wondering  if  his  were  just  ball- 
park or  whether  he  had  timed  it?     In  either  case, 
the  times  are  a  little  hit  long  on  extend/retract 
which  is  a  little  cause  for  worry  about  that  -  the 
mapping  camera  may  fail  and  later  on  downstream 
we  may  want  to  change  our  operating  mode  on  that 
mapping  camera  and  he  might  want  to  time  it  a  lit- 
tle closer.     If  he  -  if  he  can  -  the  chance  should 
come  up. 

What  -  what  times  -  - 

Hey,  Bob,  that's  a  good  point  on  the  thing.  Those 
weren't  exact  times  and,  as  matter  of  fact,  we 
looked  -  kind  of  looked  away  and  it  was  about  in  - 
you  know,  somewhere  around  that  -  that  period  of 
time.    We  looked  away  and  when  -  when  we  looked 
back,  it  was  gray  again,  so  -  next   

Okay  

-  -  next  time  we  extend  them,  I'll  get  a  good 
accurate  indication. 

Okay.    Well,  no  problem. 


We'll  believe  the  strip  chart.     We'll  take  the 
strip  chart  data.    We've  got  01:2U,  1  minute 
2k  seconds  for  extend  and  01:51,  1  minute  51  sec- 
onds for  retract.    And  both  those  are  a  little 
bit  on  the  high  side. 

Okay.     I  would  believe  the  strip  chart. 

Roger,  Ron.     You  all  are  about  k  minutes  from  LOS. 

Okay,  we  might  lose  you  a  little  bit  earlier  than 
that .     IHCO . 

Okay,  we  may  lose  you  a  little  early  due  to  the 
SIM  bay  attitude  and  we'll  pick  you  up  at  97:22. 

Okay,  Bob.    Once  more  around  at  97:22. 


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Hoxistonj  IT. 

1T»  Houston.    Go  ahead. 

Roger.     We're  just  about  ready  to  finish  up  here. 
I  have  a  couple  of  questions.    Do  you  want  us  to 
cycle  cryo  fans  or  just  leave  them  alone  now? 

We'd  like  them  just  left  alone,  left  in  you  con- 
figuration you  are  now.  Jack. 

Okay,  there  will  be  no  cycling  then. 

Roger.    We  have  one  question.    Who's  got  the  duty 
tonight  or  will  he  be  wearing  a  headset? 

Yes,  he  -  Ron  has  the  duty.  He  will  be  wearing 
the  headset,  but  I  will  be  on  the  biomed  under- 
neath. 

Understajid  that.    And  one  note  for  Gene.    It's  an 
addition  to  that  Flight  Surgeon's  note.    When  you 
rehydrate  your  food,  make  sure  that  you  go  the  - 
let  it  rehydrate  for  the  maximum  amount  of  time. 
I  know  you  miss  it  on  this  one,  but  the  next  - 
like  tomorrow  morning,  make  sure  it  rehydrates  the 
maximim  amount  of  time. 

Okay,  I'll  tell  him. 

Roger . 

And  we  got  the  star  crater  stereo  trio. 
Roger . 

And  the  -  we're  -  mag  -  Oscar  Oscar  is  on  93  now. 
The  last  three  pictoires  were  that  trio. 

Bob,  we're  ...  complete  on  the  presleep  checklist. 
And  except  for  computing  communications  configu- 
ration and  Ron  will  take  care  of  that. 


Tape  6h/h 


CC  Roger . 

LMP  And»  Bob,  while  we're  gradually  getting  in  con- 

figuration here,  let  me  reiterate  something  that 
I've  been  watching  this  rev  as  we  did  a  lot  of 
other  things.    And  that  was  this  relationship  of 
the  light-colored  or  light  gray  swirl  patterns  on 
the  surface  to  patterns  -  associated  pattern  - 
parallel  patterns  that  are  darker  than  the  average 
of  the  surrounding  area.    And  this  is  true  both 
in  Mare  Marginis  and  in  most  cases  on  the  back 
side. 


CC  Roger,  Jack.    We'll  get  that  to  the  PI, 

LMP  Roughly,  although  they're  very  irregular  patterns  - 

roughly  it's  concentric  zoning  of  dark  to  light 
within  a  intermediate  albedo  surface.     Now  there 
are  variations  on  that  theme;  sometimes  you  don't 
get  the  symmetry  quite  as  good,  but  it's  common 
enough  that  I  think  it's  worth  noting. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Also,  there's  a  sequence  of  different  kinds  of 

crater  filling  on  the  far  side,  and  I  think  that, 
as  the  orbital  stay  progresses,  we  may  be  able  to 
pin  down  the  relative  age  relationships  and  the 
characteristics  of  those  crater  fill  -  filling 
episodes.     Whether  they  are  single  episodes  that 
happen  in  a  variety  of  crater  or  they're  a  function 
of  the  age  and  characteristics  of  the  craters  in 
which  you  find  them  is  not  clear  right  now,  but 
the  -  they  seem  to  form  fairly  distinct  groupings 
of  crater- fill  material. 


CC  Roger.  Jack. 

52  07    LMP  One  of  those  crater-fill  materials  that  you  also 

see  in  other  kinds  of  depressions  other  than  cra- 
ters is  a  very  smooth,  light,  plains- forming 
material.    And  it  is,  although  cratered,  when  you 
see  it  at  the  terminator,  it  is  smoother  than  the 
mare;  that  is,  it  does  not  seem  to  have  the  swell, 
the  sea  swell  characteristics  or  ridges  or  any 
other  features  other  than  the  crater's  superimposed 
on  it. 


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CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

03  22  55  19    GC  17 J  Houston.    You  can  go  ahead,  and  close  the  UV 

cover .    We ' d  like  to  hold  off  1  minute  before  you 
turn  the  UV  off.    We  want  to  look  at  1  minute  of 
data  with  the  cover  closed. 

LMP  Oh,  okay.     Roger.    A  walkon.     I  see  it  now. 

03  22  56  08    LMP  Okay»  it's  CLOSED. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  give  you  a  cue  when  you  go  IN ^  OFF, 

and  IKCO  would  like  to  know  what  you've  got  on 
your  high  gain  pitch  ajid  yaw  knohs .     Not  the  dials 
but  the  knobs . 

LMP  All  right.    The  knobs  are  -  let's  see,  about 

plus  20  and  I85. 

CC  Okay,  PITCH  of  20  and  185  on  the  YAW. 

LMP  That's  affirm. 

03  22  58  22    CC  And,  Jack,  you  can  turn  the  UV  off  now. 

03  22  58  38    LMP  Okay,  it's  OFF. 

03  23  01  53  Okay,  I  got  the  landing  site.    We're  right  over 

the  top  of  it,  and  the  scarp  is  fantastically 
detailed  at  this  -  Can  you  see  in  there.  Gene? 
Right  down,  right  down,  straight  down  there. 

CDR  Ko,  I  can't. 

LMP  Okay,  well,  the  sli  -  the  light  mantle  is  ob  - 

very  obviously  mantling  the  area.     The  scarp  was 
very  detailed,  and,  so  far,  coiild  not  see  any 
structure  in  the  massifs  at  all,  but  I  haven't 
had  any  -  didn't  have  much  time  to  watch  it  on 
that  pass . 

LMP  The  slide  very  definitely  subdued  the  general 

detail  in  the  plains  area  -  or  the  light  mantle, 
if  you  will,  rather  than  slide.  MOCR  Crater  was 
finally  out  of  the  dark. 


Roger . 


Jack,  we'd  like  to  know  if  you  think  you  can  adjust 
the  high  gain  as  close  to  plus  15  and  YAW  190  as 
possible? 

Okay,  Bob,  that's  adjusted  plus  I5  and  190,  and 
I  suspect  I  was  a  little  closer  to  15  than  20 
when  I  called  you  before. 

Roger . 

I'll  tell  you,  from  this  altitude  and  with  that 
low  Sun,  there's  no  question  of  the  sharpness  of 
the  topographic  features  in  the  landing  area. 
The  -  The  scarp,  and  -  and  even  some  of  the  appar- 
ent back  -  pardon  -  backflow  features  -  and  Parker 
will  know  what  I'm  talking  about  -  that  is  apparent 
flows  to  the  west  in  the  light  majitle  area  were 
extremely  sharp,  even  those  fronts  going  west  were 
sharp.    It  looked  even  more  like  a  mare  ridge  than 
it  ever  did  before. 

Roger . 

Okay,  Bob,  this  is  Gene.     I  had  a  -  just  a  quick 
view  of  the  site,  and  if  we're  anywhere  near  it, 
we'll  recognize  it,  I  think,  without  question. 
And,  I  think  with  that,  we'll  bid  farewell  and 
good  night. 

Okay,  gang.    And  looking  for  a  bxisy  day  tomorrow  

Never  fear .     Your  old  CM  -  - 
Go  ahead;  I  cut  you  out. 

I  said,  "Never  fear,  your  CMP  is  watching." 

Roger.    And,  just  a  reminder  S-BAND   

He's  got  the  watch  tonight. 

-  -  NORMAL  VOICE  to  OFF  tonight,  please? 

Okay,  okay,  as  soon  as  I  get  bedded  down,  I'll 
do  that. 


Tape  61+/7 


LMP  Don't  worry,  he's  got  a  batch  of  g\ays  up  here 

reminding  him  of  that  one. 

CMP  And  I  checked  out  the  little  whistle,  and  it  works 

like  a  charm. 

CC  Roger.     I  was  betting  on  -  - 

CMP  Just  to  make  siore ,  I'm  going  to  check  it  again. 

CC  -  -  you  guys  to  get  that  switch  last  night ,  and  I 

lost  iBy  bet. 

LMP  And,  Robert,  good  night  to  all. 

CC  Good  night  up  there. 

03  23  07  22    LMP  And  that  is  a  test.    This  is  a  test,  test,  test. 

03  23  07  27    CDR  Good  night,  babe. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


0^+  OT  05  01  (Music:    City  of  New  Orleans  by  John  Denver) 

ok  OT  OT  28    CC  Good  morning,  America.    Hov  are  you? 

CMP  This  is  America.    That's  a  good  way  to  wake  up. 

CC  Good  morning,  America.    How  are  you?    You'll  be 
gone  a  million  miles  "before  the  mission  is  done. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CMP  HoTOston,  America.    How  you  reading?    Okay  now? 

CC  You're  loud  and  clear,  Ron.    How  are  we? 

CMP  Okay;  might  fine,  Joe. 

ok  OT  09  09    LMP  Let's  hear  it  again,  Joe. 

CC  Are  you  serious? 

LMP  Well,  I  Just  got  on  a  headset.    You  never  had  a 
chance  to  -  - 

CC  St8uid  by.    Here  it  comes. 

LMP    wake  me  up  before.  (Laughter) 

CC  It's  coming  at  you,  America. 

LMP  Okay. 

Ok  OT  11  OI+  (Music:    City  of  New  Orleans  by  John  Denver) 

OU  OT  13  ^5    CC  How  about  that? 

LMP  Thank  you,  Joe.    That's  great.    We're  moving  on. 

CC  Don't  you  know? 

CMP  And  a  big  eight-wheeler. 

CC  And,  America,  you're  10  minutes  from  LOS,  and  the 
spacecraft  looks  great. 


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LMP  Okay,  Joe.    That's  good  to  hear.    And  ve're  starting 

to  move  now,  and  we'll  he  ready  for  you  when  we 
come  around. 

CC  All  righty. 

LMP  How  long  are  you  with  us  this  morning? 

CC  Oh,  not  too  many  more  minutes. 

LMP  Hope  we  didn't  keep  you  up  last  night. 

CC  The  pleasure  was  ours.  Jack.    We  devoted  our 

8  hours  to  selecting  yovir  wakeup  call  this  morning 
ajid  got  a  little  help  from  the  news  room  pool  on 
that  siiggestion. 

LMP  Well,  that  was  a  good  suggestion.     I  had  forgotten 

all  about  that  song.    That's  a  good  one. 

LMP  You  ought  to  find  the  "Golden  Rockets"  for  us  some 

morning. 

Ok  07  15  1^5    CC  You'll  wish  you  hadn't  asked. 

Oi;  07  16  55    CC  17,  this  is  Houston.     You'll  be  pleased  to  hear  that 

the  IR  in  the  SIM  bay  is  returning  some  beautiful 
data  to  us  here. 

CMP  Hey;  great,  Joe.    That's  good  to  hear,  by  gosh. 

LMP  What  are  you  learning,  Joe? 

CC  Hotspots  on  the  Moon,  Jack. 

LMP  Well,  we  know  we  had  one  going  around  it.  We 

didn't  know  we  had  any  on  it. 

CMP  Houston,  the  IM/m  DELTA-P  is  0.1*. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP  Where  -  where  is  your  big  anomalies,  Joe?  Can 

you  summarize  quickly? 


CC 


Jack,  we'll  get  -  get  that  for  you  next  pass. 


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LMP  Well,  don't  worry  about  it.     I  think  we're  going 

to  have  a  lot  of  things  on  our  mind  the  next  pass. 
But  we're  Just  passing  over  Orientale  again,  Joe, 
and  in  earthlight  it ' s  probably  one  of  the  most 
spectacular  sights  in  nature. 


CC  Copy  that ,  Jack .     I  can  imagine . 

oh  07  20  39    IMP  Joe,  can  you  imagine  waking  up  anywhere  else? 

CC  17,  we'll  think  about  that  until  you  go  LOS. 

LMP  Roger. 

CC  17,  about  30  seconds  to  LOS.    We'll  see  you  on  the 
other  side.     It's  boing  to  be  a  good  day. 

Ok  07  21  1+7    LMP  Righto,  Joe. 

OI4  07  U3  XX  BEGIN  LUHAR  REV  10 


ok  08  Ik  35    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  with  you  and  we're  in  the 

process  of  getting  the  tunnel  pressurized  and 
moving  right  towards  probe  and  drogue  removal. 


CC  Okay,  Jack.     Good  morning. 

LMP  Good  morning,  Gordy.    Welcome  aboard. 

CC  Thank  you. 

LMP  I  take  it  you're  going  to  pick  up  the  -  the  reports  - 

postsleep  reports  later.     Is  that  correct?  From 
Ron? 


CC  Anyway,  it's  convenient  to  you. 

LMP  Well,  we're  moving  towards  getting  the  suits  on. 

Unless  you  want  me  to  take  5  minutes  here,  we'll 
leave  it  alone  and  let  Ron  give  it  to  you. 


CC  That'll  be  fine. 

LMP  Everybody  ate  and  drank  and  slept  Just  about  like 

last  night. 


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CC  Okay. 

CDR  Good  morning,  Gordy. 

CC  Good  morning.  Commander. 

CDR  Tell  Joe  I'm  sorry  I  didn't  get  a  chance  to  say 

hello  to  him,  hut  I  did  hear  his  presence  being 
evident . 

CC  Okay.    We'll  pass  it  along. 

Oh  08  16  5^    CMP  Houston,  America.     The  tunnel  hatch  is  out. 

CC  Okeydoke,  Ron. 

CDR  Gordy,  how  does  America  look  to  you  this  morning? 

CC  Beautiful,  as  it  has  all  the  way  to  date. 

Ol+  08  17  27    CDR  Okay. 

0I+  08  20  39    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.    The  old  probe  is  under- 

neath the  couch. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CMP  Okay.    How  are  Jack's  EKGs  and  stuff.     He's  going 

to  tape  them  now, 

CC  Let  me  get  a  check. 

CMP  (Chuckle)    Wait  a  minute.    He's  not  plugged  in. 

But,  you  know,  he's  had  them  on  all  night.  Were 
they  good? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CC  Yes,  Ron.    He  was  plugged  in;  we  had  good  signals. 

Ok  08  2k  21    CMP  Okay;  good. 


Tape  TO/5 


CC  America,  Houston.     If  someone's  near  the  telemetry 

switch,  if  you  go  to  ACCEPT,  we'll  give  you  a  state 
vector. 

OU  08  28  20    CMP  Okay.     You  have  ACCEPT. 

CC  Okay.    And  as  we're  supposed  to  update  your 

trajectory,  which  is  looking  good  -  predicted 
perilune  at  PDI  without  DOI-2  would  be  11.9,  a 
little  lower.    So  that  means  that  DOI-2  will  he  a 
little  less,  in  terms  of  DELTA-V,  than  nominal. 
But,  otherwise,  looking  good. 

CMP  Okay.    Did  you  say  11.2  for  perigee,  now  -  without 

DOI-2? 

CC  I  might  have  said  that.     It's  11.9  predicted  at 

PDI  time  withou  DOI-2. 

CMP  Okay.    11,9  predicted  without  -  at  PDI  time  with- 

out DOI-2. 

CC  That's  right. 

CMP  Okay.    SO  DOI-2  will  be  a  little  less  than 

predicted. 

CC  Affirmative. 

CMP  I'm  repeating  it  to  these  guys  that  are  getting 

suited  here,  see. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     I  have  your  vector  now.     You  can  go  back 

to  BLOCK. 

Oh  08  30  33    CMP  Okay.    We'll  go  to  BLOCK. 

CC  America,  Houston.    You  owe  us  a  reverif ication  of 

docking  tunnel  index  angle. 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  check  it. 

CMP  Well,  I  kept  ...  thinking  it  might  move  back  to 

zero,  but  it  hasn't  moved  -  plus  1.2. 


Tape  TO/6 


CC  Okay;  plus  1.2.    For  your  information,  Ron,  on 

cons\iiaa'bles  this  morning,  ve're  running  6  percent 
alDove  the  Fli^t  Plan  line  on  RCS.    On  the  hydrogen, 
we're  about  8  percent  ahove  the  line  on  tank  2; 
right  on  the  lines  on  the  other  two  hydrogen  tajaks . 
And  on  the  O^,  we're  running  our  standard  k  to 

5  percent  below  the  line  on  oxygen  tank  1;  tank  2 
is  right  on;  ajid  tank  3  has  now  gained  to  about 
3  percent  above  the  line.    All  looking  good. 

Ok  08  3I+  26    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    Hey,  that's  mighty  fine. 


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CMP  Hellc  ,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay .     I ' 11  give  you  the  commander ' s  food  from 

yesterday. 

CC  All  right.    Ready  to  copy. 

CMP  Four  "bacon  squares,  cornflakes,  orange  beverage, 

two  sips  of  coffee,  a  vitamin.     Okay.     Meal  B: 
chicken  and  rice  soup,  meatballs  and  sauce, 
orange  PA  drink,  and  caramel  stick  -  one  caramel 
stick.     Okay.    Meal  C:     potato  soup,  beef  and 
gravy,  citrus  beverage,  a  chocolate  bar,  a 
package  of  pecans. 

ok  08  Ul  11      CC  Okay.    We're  with  you  so  far. 

CMP  Okay;  commander's  medical  log:     PRD  17036, 

6-1/2  hours  of  good  sleep,  one  Seconal  last  night, 
three  bags  of  fluid, 

CC  Roger . 

Qi*  08  U2  58      CMP  Three  bags  of  water,  let's  -  I  better  put  it  that 

way,  I  guess. 

Ok  08  k2  53      CMP  Okay.     Here  we  go  on  the  LMPs  food. 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  Okay;  two  bacon  squares,  scrambled  eggs, 

two  apricots,  cocoa,  and  a  coffee.    Meal  B: 
fruitcake,  cit  -  citrus  beverage,  hamburger,  and 
a  coffee.     Meal  C:     lemonade,  beef  and  gravy, 
ambrosia,  cereal  bar,  and  tea.     I  guess  that's  it. 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  Hey,  Houston.     Why  don't  I  give  you  LMPs  menu 

this  morning,  too  -  day  5? 

CC  Okay . 


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CMP  Then  I  won't  have  to  get  back  in  their  pages. 

Okay.     It's  a  sausage  patty  for  LMP  -  sausage 
patties,  cinamon-toasted  bread,  instant  breakfast, 
coffee  with  K,  and  a  grape  drink,  and  a  vitamin. 
Okay;  for  the  commander  on  day  5;     spiced  oat 
ceral,  sausage  patties,  instant  breakfast,  and 
vitamins . 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Okay;  for  the  LMPs  medical  log:     PRD  2i+108, 

7-1/1+  hours  very  good,  one  Seconal  last  night, 
3-1/2  cans  of  water, 

CC  Roger . 

Ok  08  1+7  59      CC  Okay.    We're  ready  to  go  on  command  module  pilot 

of  the  spaceship  America  and  his  . . .  menu. 

CC  Go  ahead,  captain. 

CMP  Okay.     Bacon  squares,  scrambled  eggs,  cornflakes, 

orange  juice,  two  coffee,  three  caramel  candies  - 
that's  three  sticks  of  caramel  candy.    Meal  B: 
chicken  and  rice,  meatballs,  butterscotch  pudding, 
orange  PA  drink.     I  missed  the  vitamins  up  there 
in  A,  too.     Okay;  Meal  C:    potato  soup,  beef  and 
gravy,  chicken  stew,  orange  GF  drink,  tea, 
chocolate  bar ,  and  a  package  of  pecans . 

CMP  Okay;  CMP  medical  log:     PRD  I503I+,  and  about 

5-1/2  of  good  sleep;  a  little  trouble  getting  to 
sleep  last  night,  and  I  woke  up  early  this  morning. 
I  took  a  Seconal;  didn't  seem  to  have  much  good  - 
much  effect,  and  I  had  four  cans  of  water. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  I  think  I  was  on  the  biomed  all  the  time  last 

night ,  too ,  so  you  can  check  out  that  sleep . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     While  you've  got  that  book  with  you, 

I  can  give  you  a  one-line  change  to  the  E-memory 
load  as  a  restilt  of  our  changing  the  short -burn 
const  Eint . 


Ok  08  50  10  CMP 


Okay.     Stand  by  1  here. 


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CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.     I've  got  the  right  page 

now. 

CC  Okay.     It's  page  I-U3.     It's  load  Delta.  Identi- 

fier number  5 ;  the  old  value  is  OI606 .  Change 
that  to  01637. 

CMP  Okay.     It'll  be  load  Delta,  and  the  octal 

identifier  05,  and  its  new  value  is  Ol63T- 

CC  That's  correct. 

oh  08  52  33      CMP  Okay.    The  LMP  has  got  his  suit  on.  They're 

connecting  up  the  LCG  water  connection,  and  he's 
still  vinzipped. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     In  the  Flight  Plan,  you're  coining  up 

on  a  VERB       and  then  going  to  POO  prior  to  the 
P52.     After  going  to  POO,  we'd  like  you  to  chajige 
to  B/D  ROLL  from  A/C.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  change  the  B/D  ROLL.     Looks  like 

we're  going  to  run  into  a  problem  on  our  P52 
down  here,  with  these  guys  getting  suited.     Is  it 
really  necessary  now? 

CC  There's  no  time  criticality  on  that.    When  they're 

out  of  the  way ,  go  ahead  with  it . 

OU  08  53  27      CMP  Okay.  Good. 

OI+  09  02  hh      LMP  Okay,  Houston,  how  do  you  read  the  LMP? 

CC  LMP,  you're  loud  and  clear. 

ok  09  02  51      LMP  Okay,  Gordy ,  I'm  opening  the  hatch. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  And  the  light's  still  on. 

CC  Roger . 

Oh  09  03  36      LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    Index  1  plus  -  or  plus  1,2. 

CC  Roger . 


Tape  -JlKfh 

Ok  09  05  U9  •    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  I'm  going  to  skip  the  P52  for  a 

while  and  maneuver  to  the  docking  attitude  -  undock 
attitude,  that  is. 


CC 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


CC 


Roger.    -  Stand  by  on  that  one,  Ron, 


CMP  Wilco 


Oh  09  06  ll+      CC  We  want  to  he  sure  we  can  get  some  stars  -  good 

stars  in  the  undock  attitude. 


Ron,  this  is  Houston.  We  didn't  see  you  do  a 
VERB  1+5.  Over. 


Oh  09  07  22      CMP  You're  rieht . 


one , 


And  if  there's  any  -  if  you  -  if  there's  no  reason 
why  not,  we'd  just  as  soon  you  go  ahead  and  do  the 
P52  now.     Finish  that  off  and  then  start  the 
maneuver .    Over . 

Okay.     The  Mg  reason  is  that  Gene's  getting  into 
his  suit  right  now. 


CC  Okay, 


As  soon  as  he  gets  out  and  gets  in  his  suit,  well, 
I'll  do  a  P52  maneuver. 


CC  Okay, 


Ron,  Houston.  Can  you  give  us  AUTO  on  the 
HIGH  GAIN? 


CMP  Okay.    Just  a  second,  Houston. 

Oil  09  09  22      LMP  We're  transferring  to  LM  POWER,  Houston. 

Oh  09  09  2h      CMP  Okay;  OFF,  RESET,  back  to  OFF. 

Oh  09  09  29      LMP  Okay.     We  have  LM  POWER. 

CMP  Okay.     That  was  107:ll9:28. 

CC  Roger . 

Oh  09  10  16      LMP  LM  WATER  is  OPEN,  and  0^  is  OPEK. 


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CC  Roger . 

Oh  09  10  55     IMP  Okay;  3-^,  Houston,  in  the  LM.    And  step  1  is 

good. 

CC  Okay . 

Ok  09  12  31      LMP  Okay.     Step  2  is  complete. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP  And  I'm  going  off  of  CSM  coram,  and  I'll  "be  coming 

at  you  before  long  on  S-BAUD,  if  I  can. 

CC  Okay . 

ok  09  l6  15      CC  Ron,  Houston.    We've  taken  a  look  at  stars  avail- 

able in  the  undock  attitude,  and  they  don't  look 
too  good.    We  suggest  you  use  the  present  attitude 
for  your  52  and  then  maneuver.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  Just  about  to  get  Gene  out  of  the  way 

here,  and  then  I  "will. 

CC  Okay,  and  we're  less  than  3  minutes  to  LOS  now. 

So  when  you  finish  that  52,  we'd  like  you  to  copy 
down  the  NOUN  5  and  93s  for  us. 

CMP  Okay;  will  do. 

CC  America,  Houston.     About  1  minute  to  LOS.  Nothing 

further  for  you.    We'll  see  you  on  the  other  side. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  hustling  -  like  heck.  We 

might  make  it.  (Laughter) 

OU  09  l8  38      CC  Roger. 

Ok  09  37  XX  BEGIN  LUTTAR  REV  11 

OU  10  07  3k      LMP  There  we  go.     Should  have  done  that  in  the  first 

place . 

LMP  Okay.  Okay. 


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CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston.    How  do  you  read? 

LMP 

CDR  Hello,  Gordy.    This  is  Challenger.    We're  reading 

you  loud  and  clear. 

CC  Okay.     You're  readable.     Lots  of  background  noise 

at  the  moment . 

CDR  Okay.    We'll  update  you  in  just  a  minute. 

LMP  Okay,  Gene,  that's  locked. 

LMP  Okay.    Another  one  is  verify  locked.     The  band 

was  up.    So  you're  locked  here;  the  red  thing  is 
in. 

CDR  Okay . 

LMP  And  I'll  ...  you  up. 

CDR  Okay,  and  I  got  it  over  here. 

LMP  Okay .     Okay .     Comm  checks . 

CDR  Let  me  give  them  an  E-memory  dump.     I  can  press 


on.     Gordy,  Jack  will  update  you  in  just  a  second. 
And  I've  got  some  words  for  you,  but  I'd  like  to 
give  you  an  E-memory  dump  as  soon  as  you  get  the 
steerable . 

...  they  got  the  steerable.    Okay.    Okay,  Govdy . 
How  do  you  read  the  LMP?     This  is  yo\ar  S-BAWD 
T/R  in  secondary  power  amp  check. 


CC  Okay,  IMP.     You're  clear.     Lots  of  background 

noise  though. 

0^+  10  09  30      IMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  bring  up  the  steerable. 

CC  Okay;  go  eihead. 

SC  Okay ,  steerable  . . . 

CDR  . . .  going  to  make  it? 


Tape  TIA/T 


LMP  ...  I  have  to  wait  for  this  one. 

CDR  Pitch  is  good. 

LMP  Okay .    YAW  minus  ...  2 . 

CDR  Yaw  is  good. 

CDR  Do  you  know  where  our  scissors  -  - 

ok  10  12  31      LMP  Okay,  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Okay.    You're  loud  and  clear,  Jack. 

LMP  Yes,  they're  in  the  -  - 

CDR  Okay .     Okay . 

LMP  . . .  data  file. 

LMP  Hey,  Ron.    We  need  to  check  out  that  VHF.  You 

ought  to  get  that  done  "before  you  close  up,  Ron. 
Houston,  we'll  he  right  with  you.    We're  going  to 
check  out  our  VHP.     Let  me  finish  this  part  of  it, 
and  then  -  we ' 11  get  that . 

LMP  Okay.    You  want  to  read  that  to  me.  Gene  -  the 

S-BADID? 

CDR  Okay.    Where  are  you  now? 

LMP  I'm  right  here  in  the  middle  of  the  page. 

CDR  Okay.     S-BAND  PM. 

LMP  PM. 

CDR  Secondary  -  - 

LMP  Houston.     How  do  you  read  the  LM? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.    We're  in  step  2,  and  -  we're  giving  you 

your  second  S-BAMD  check.    And  I'm  going  TRACK 
MODE  AUTO. 

CC  Okay.    You  sound  good. 


Tape  71A/8 


Oh  10  ik  05      LMP  Okay,  Houston.     I  can  hear  the  antenna  riJinbling 

up  there,  but  -  I  still  have  not  peaked.  Still 
reading  3.7. 

CC  Okay.    You're  loud  and  clear.  Jack.     It  looks 

like  a  good  lock  to  us . 


mp 


Okay.  We'll  leave  it  -  Okay.  I'll  leave  it  there, 
and  I'm  going  BIOMED  RIGHT. 


CC  Roger. 

01+  10  1I+  35      LMP  Okay.     SQUELCH  is  OFF.     How  do  you  read? 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  71B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROmD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

oh  10  07  57    CC  Hello,  America;  Houston.     Standing  "by. 

CC  America,  Houston.    Standing  by. 

CC  America,  America;  Houston.     Standing  by. 

ok  10  09  08    CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America.    Man,  you  wouldn't  believe 

it.     I  finally  got  my  suit  on. 

CC  Nothing  to  make  you  feel  good  like  a  new  suit  of 

clothes . 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  give  you  some  P52  stuff  here. 

CC  Okay;  shoot. 

CMP  I  had  to  arc  all  over  the  sky  before  I  could  find 

some  stars.     Okay.     Let's  see.     Use  star  ih  and 
25.    Star  angle  difference  was  .01,  NOUN  93  is 
plus  .065,  minus  .076,  minus   .102;  and  I  torqued 
at  108:20:00. 

CC  Okay;  copy. 

CC  America,  are  you  pretty  well  caught  up  with  time 

line  now,  or  can  you  give  me  some  indication  where 
you  are? 

oh  10  10  hQ    CMP  I'm  checking  it  off  here.    Right  now  I'm  at  108:10. 

I'm  -  haven't  -  changed  the  canister  yet.     Let  me 
check  and  see  if  I  can  have  time  to  do  that  or  not. 

oh  10  11  07    CMP  Okay.    I'm  VOX.     Do  you  hear  me  now? 

CC  Yes  sir;  loud  and  clear. 

CMP  Okay.     I've  removed  the  umbilicals  -  the  CSM/LM 

umbilicals.    Guess  I  need  to  install  the  probe 
and  the  drogue.    I'll  get  those  things  done  right  now. 

CC  All  right.     I'll  make  a  note  of  the  canister  and 

remind  you  of  it  later. 


Tape  TlB/2 


CMP  Yes;  okay. 

CC  Hey,  America.    Can  you  confirm  that  you've  got  a 
pair  of  scissors  on  looard  with  you? 

CMP  (Laughter)    Yes,  I  made  him  keep  one. 

CC  Okay.    That's  good  thinking. 

CMP  They  couldn't  ever  find  the  other  set,  either. 

CC  Okay.    Gets  hungry  without  those. 

CMP  (Laughter)    It  sure  does.  (Laughter). 

CC  We  could  hear  your  drogue  and  prohe  hanging  around 
there.    It  sounds  like  the  kitchen  is  what  reminded 
us  of  it. 

CMP  Oh;  okay. 

CMP  Okay.    Let's  check  out  the  VHF  now. 

nU  10  1-^  09    CMP  Okay.    1 'm  SIMPLEX  Alfa  and  VHF ,  RIGHT .  Now, 

OU  10  13  09    CMf  ^^T^gB,     oj^ay.    We're  AHTENHA  RIGHT,  SIMPLEX  B. 

CMP  Okay,  Jack,  I  don't  read  you  yet. 

CMP  Okay.    I'm  sitting  on  SIMPLEX  Bravo. 

CMP  I  don't  read  you  yet. 

CMP  I  <ion't  read  you  at  all.     Do  you  read  me? 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  read  you  at  all.  Jack. 

CMP  Okay.    I'm  down  to  SIMPLEX  Bravo. 

CMP  Yes;  go  ahead. 

CMP  I'm  talking  on  B  now.    How  do  you  read? 

CMP  Ho,  I  don't  read  you  at  all  here,  Jack. 

CMP  No,  I  don't  read  you. 

CMP 


Okay.  I've  got  everything  on  in  my  AUTO  panel. 
Let  me  try  the  other  one  for  backup. 


Tape  71B/3 


CMP  Yes  ,  I 'm  on  LEFT .    I 'm  on  LEFT .     Let  me  go  to 

BACKUP. 

CMP  . . .  you ,  yet . 

LMP  Stand  by.    Stay  where  you  are. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Hey,  I  finally  got  you. 

CMP  Okay.    You  were  kind  of  clipping  there  for  a  little 

bit.     I  got  the  last  part  of  your  transmission. 

CMP  Okay.    I  heard  it  -  I  Just  missed  -  I  Just  missed  it. 

It  was  Just  warming  up,  but  I  got  you  loud  and 
clear. 

CMP  Okay.    I  read  you  loud  and  clear;  that's  VHF  B. 

CMP  Yes,  I  didn't  hear  you  at  all  that  time.  Yes, 

you're  still  clipping.    All  I  got  was  "now." 

CMP  Okay.    How  do  you  read  now?     I  got  that. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Then  I  missed  that  part  of  it. 

CMP  Okay.    Loud  and  clear.  Gene. 

CMP  Now,  you're  still  clipping.  Jack.    Can  you  move  your 

mikes  a  little  bit  closer  or  something? 

CMP  Ko,  I  didn't  read  you  at  all  that  time. 

CMP  Not  clear. 

CMP  No,  you're  going  to  have  to  yell  or  something. 

I  still  -  you're  still  clipping  yourself  out.  Jack. 

CMP  No,  I  didn't  read  you  that  time. 

CMP  Okay.    Okay;  switching  to  Alfa. 

CMP  Bravo  is  off;  SIMPLEX  Alfa  is  on. 

CMP  Don't  read  you. 

CMP  Don't  read  you. 


Tape  71B/h 


CMP  Okay.    I  don't  read  you  guys  at  all,  except  through 

the  tunnel. 

CMP  Okay.     Got  you  loud  and  clear  that  time.    And,  Gene, 

can  you  verify  the  capture  latches  are  all  engaged? 

CMP  I  didn't  read  you  at  all,  Jack.    Didn't  read  you. 

CMP  Okay.    I  got  you  that  time,  and  check  the  capture 

latches . 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Yes,  I'm  up  in  the  tunnel,  but  go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay.    I  read  you.    Go  ahead. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

oh  10  23  06    CMP  Okay.    I'm  getting  the  probe  umbilical  installed 

nov. 

ok  10  2h  5k    CMP  Okay,  Gene.    Can  you  look  at  the  capture  latches? 

I've  got  it  preloaded  here  nov. 

CMP  Okay.     Preload  the  -  It's  pushing  on  by,  so  I'll 

going  to  -  ...  preloaded. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  What  do  you  mean;  probe  locked? 

CMP  Yes,  it  was  locked.     Oh,  the  dorgue.     Yes.  Yes, 

it's  locked  in  there. 

CMP  Okay.     I  can  do  that  now;  put  the  tun  -  txmnel  in  - 

the  hatch  in  a  little  bit  later. 

Ok  10  26  01    CMP  MIN  DEADBMD,  ATT  hold.    Okay.     I  got  that  right 

now.    Wait  a  minute;  I  don't  have  SCS.    Let  me 
give  you  SCS. 

CMP  Okay,  Gene.    You've  got  MIN  DEADBMD,  ATT  hold,  now. 

ok  10  26  51    CMP  Okay.    There  we  go.    Plus  356.95,  plus  106.3U,  and 

a  plus  001. Ug. 


Tape  TIB/ 5 


Right? 

America,  Houston. 

Hoiiston,  America.    Go  ahead. 

In  order  to  get  a  better  drift  check,  they'd  like 
to  tweak  up  the  attitudes  before  they  do  that  coarse 
align.     So  how  about  doing  a  VERB  Up  tweak  back  to 
the  original  undocking  attitude. 

Okay,  that's  the  what;  0105  and  0? 

Yes,  sir. 

Okay.    Stand  by.  Gene.    We'll  get  back  here. 
Okay? 

Okay,  Houston;  America.     0105  and  0,  correct? 
Yes,  sir. 

That's  interesting.     I  don't  know  how  it  got  off 
attitude . 

Yes,  I  was  going  to  ask  you  the  same  thing.  You 
might  have  knocked  a  -  a  -  a  stick  or  something 
while  everybody  was  flailing  around  down  there. 
Coiild  you  -  - 

Maybe  -  maybe  I  hit  the  stick  or  something.  Yes. 
Yes, 

Okay,  Gene.    We're  MIN  DEADBMD  ATT  hold  at  0105 
and  0. 

Okay;  VERB  6,  NOUN  20:     000.32,  lOU.ltO,  359-55. 
Okay? 

Okay,  Houston.     I  forgot  to  release  the  docking 
latches.     Okay.     I'll  go  up  and  release  the  docking 
latches  1  and  T* 


Okay. 


Tape  71B/6 


CMP  And  if  I  just  put  the  -  Ho,  I'll  do  that. 

CMP  I  was  going  to  say  you  could  read  the  probe  temp 

if  I  put  the  circuit  breakers  in. 

CMP  Okay.    There's  number  1.    One  releases i  two 

releases,  and  it's  free.    Seven.    One  release,  two 
releases,  and  it's  free. 

Oh  10  31  30    CMP  Okay.    DOCKING  PROBE  circuit  breakers;  two  of  them 

are  going  CLOSE.  MAIK  A.  MAIN  B.  PROBE  EXTEND/ 
RELEASE  is  going  to  RETRACT.  I've  got  two  barber 
poles . 

CC  That's  a  good  sign. 

CMP  Okay.    The  docking  probe  circuit  breakers  are 

going  to  open.    Okay.    Extend/releases ,  and  they 
went  gray,  of  course,  when  they  went  open.  Okay. 
EXTEND/RELEASE  to  OFF.     Verify  probe  extend  latch 
engage  indicator  not  visible.    Well,  I'll  go  back  - 
it  wasn't  awhile  ago,  but  I'll  go  look  again. 
Only  if  you  hit  EXTEND  with  the  circuit  breakers  in. 
Mighty  fine.    It's  still  back  inside  there.  Extend 
latch  is  still  engaged. 

CMP  Okay.    Standing  by.     Go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay.    000. UU,  lOlt.63,  359.69- 

CC  America,  Houston,  in  order  to  get  on  and  stay  on 

the  time  line,  I'll  remind  you  about  the  lithium 
canister  after  PDI;  we  can  let  that  one  go.  And 
if  you'd  like  to  let  the  camera  business  slide 
until  after  your  suit  check  and  we'll  get  those 
things.    I'll  come  back  and  remind  you  of  those, 
too . 


Okay.    I've  got  the  -  the  cameras  all  set.     I  got 
them  out,  anyhow.     I  don't  have  the  -  the  right 
values  on  the  lenses  yet;  but,  anyhow,  the  camera 
are  out  and  they're  loaded. 

Okay. 

I've  got  mag  00  on  the  Hasselblad. 


Tape  TIB/T 


CMP  Okay,  Houston.    ¥hy  don't  I  go  ahead  and  get  the 

PGA  ver  out  of  the  way,  and  then  we  can  get  some 
of  the  -  data,  or  would  you  rather  get  the  data 
up  first? 

CC  No,  it's  yoiar  choice.    Why  don't  we  go  ahead  and 

get  the  PGA,  and  I'll  just  sit  on  these  pads,  and 
coiild  you  tell  me  if  you  ever  got  aound  to  playing 
with  the  squelch  on  the  VHF? 

oh  10  36  39    CMP  Man,  I  did.    And,  let's  see,  we're  at  SQUELCH  A 

now.     I've  even  got  it  all  the  way  down  to  1,  and 
I  still  don't  hear  them. 

CC  Okay.    You  did  get  a  satisfactory  check  on  your 

side,  didn't  you? 

CMP  Oh,  yes. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  I  got  a  satisfactory  -  Every  once  in  a  while  I 

can  hear  them  now;  they're  cutting  in  and  out 
somewhere,  I  don't  know  where. 

CC  All  righty . 

CMP  Okay-    SQUELCH  A  is  setting  at  about  h. 

CC  And,  America,  we'll  give  you  a  state  vector  if 

you  give  us  ACCEPT. 

Oh  10  38  01    CMP  Okay.    You  have  it. 

CC  Thank  you. 

ok  10  hh  ih    CMP  Houston,  America.    How  much  time  to  AOS,  yet  -  LOS? 

CC  Oh,  ahout  29  minutes. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Got  a  little  time  for  the  PGA  ver  then, 

I  guess . 

CC  And  it's  your  computer,  anytime  you  want  to  get  it, 

Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 


Tape  71B/8 


CMP  Ah  ha,  I  got  the  old  helmet  and  gloves  on. 

CMP  More  cables  all  over  the  place  here  than  I  know 

what  to  do  with. 

CC  Well,  this  place  looks  like  a  pigpen  -  you've  run 

the  same  course  everyone  else  has,  I  guess. 

CMP  (Laughter)    I  got  cables  and  hoses  and  - 

OU  10  h6  1+2    CMP  Son-of-a-muck  -  I  hit  the  stick  again.     Now  I  got 

to  unlock  it. 

CMP  Okay.    You  want  me  to  maneuver  back  to  attitude. 

Gene? 

CMP  We're  out  of  attitude  just  a  little  bit.  Well 

I'm  MIN  DEADBMD,  but  I  maneuvered  out  of  attitude. 
You  want  to  go  back  to  regular  attitude? 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     ...  flow  return  is  ...  SUIT  FLOW 

valve.    The  other  two  are  closed;  mine  is  open, 
and  I  got  the  inner  connect  in  between  the  other 
ones . 

CC  Sounds  good, 

CMP  How's  the  old  suit  pressure?    Okay.     Looks  like 

its  pretty  good.    Okay.    0^  flow  is  lower  limit 

lot.     Okay.     Let's  go  up  to  PRESS.    Here  we  go. 
That's  going  up  to  PRESS,  and  it  feels  like  it's 
going  up. 

ok  10  1+8  1+6    CMP  And  terminal  direct  0^  on  air  to  .  . .    0^  FLOW  HIGH. 

CMP  Okay.    Wait  a  minute.  Jack.    I'll  just  go  to  RECEIVE 

on  the  VHF.     I'll  just  go  to  RECEIVE  on  the  VHP, 
Jack. 

CMP  Okay.    Let's  see,  and  there's  a  DELTA-P  of  about  - 

6-1/2  -  Now  we're  going  to  cycle  suit  circuit 
return  air. 

CMP  Okay.     It's  out;  it's  back  in. 


Tape  71B/9 


CMP 
CMP 


CMP 


CC 

CMP 

CMP 


CC 


CMP 

CC 

CMP 


CMP 


Okay.  Now  we  can  squirt  a  little  more  0^  flow  in. 
Boom,  boom  -  There  we  go.    Man,  oh  man! 


CMP  DIRECT  0^  is  off. 


That's  coming  down.  Shoot!  I'm  reading  U.5  in  my 
suit.    Is  that  right? 


CMP  5? 


Looks  like  about  h  on  our  meter,  Ron. 

Well,  I'll  be  durn.    The  old  suit  gage  read  U.5. 

...  that  close  in  there.    Let's  say  at  maybe  nine 
or  scmething  like  that.    That's  closer  to  four. 
Can't  tell  for  sure  what  it  feels  like.  Anyhow, 
the       flow  is  down.    It's  not  leaking  very  much. 

I'm  leaking  about  0.3.    Something  like  that. 

Okay.    We're  -  we're  showing  k.2  to  k.3  on  our 
pressure  spread,  and  you're  cabin  and  suit  pres- 
sure gages  probably  show  something  similar.  And 
we  show  that  the  flow  rate  is  down.  - 

Oh,  okay.    That's  not  too  bad.    That's  pretty  close, 

Yes.    And  the  0^  flow  is  staying  pretty  good. 

...  let's  go  to  DEPRESS  on  this  thing,  huh? 


CC  Sounds  good. 


Okay;  so  it  looks  like  it's  sta  -  stable  there, 
isn't  it? 


CC  Yes,  sir. 

Ok  10  52  Ik    CMP  Okay.     Let's  go  to  DEPRESS. 


CMP 


...my  ear  are  pretty  good.  I  think  I'm  going  to 
go  to  OFF.    Save  a  little  time  here. 


Tape  71B/10 


CC 


CC 


America,  I  don't  know  if  I  copied  you  correctly. 
You  don't  want  to  go  to  OFF  on  that  SUIT  TEST 
valve  until  the  pressure  are  back  down  to  normal, 
If  that  was  what  you  asked. 


CMP  (Laughter) 


Are  or  you  already  there? 


CMP  I  chEinged  jny  mind. 

CMP  Yes.    Hiy  ears  are  popping  to  beat  the  band  -  I 

changed  my  mind,  I'll  let  it  go  down  slowly. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    And  we've  got  about  20  minutes  before  LOS, 

so  there's  no  hvirry  on  those  pads.     I've  got 
them  standing  by  when  you're  ready,  and  didn't  know 
what  you  -  what  you  had  in  mind  about  working  on 
these  things .    We  might  get  -  you  might  get  started 
on  the  hatch  integrity  check,  if  you  get  to  that 
point ,  and  I  can  give  you  the  pads  while  you ' re 
waiting  for  it  to  bleed  down  or  whatever  it  turns 
out  to  be  convenient . 

CMP  Okay.    Let's  see,  I  guess  it's  about  time  to  - 

CMP  Integrity  check;  okay. 

CC  Okay.    And  I  guess  the  LM  is  going  to  be  asking  you 

for  a  NOUM  20  pretty  soon  like,  here. 

CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America  here.     I'll  go  back  to 

CMC.    Stand  by.  Okay. 

Olt  10  5U  58    CMP  GO.    Okay;  002.15,  IOU.36,  359.69.    And  Houston, 

do  we  want  to  release  those  docking  latches  before 
they  do  their  hot  fire?    I  don't  think  so.    Do  we? 

CC  I'll  check.  Standby. 

CMP  No. 


Tape  TlB/11 


CC  You're  right,  Ron,  we'll  -  we'll  just  hold  up  on 

that  release  on  the  latches  until  the  hot  fires 
are  over.     So,  when  you  get  your  copying  hand  ready, 
why,  we'll  give  you  some  pads.    We'll  clean  thiat 
one  up. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see. 

CMP  Reading  2  SCS.    Integrity  check  -  Okay,  it  didn't  - 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Let's  see  -  where  axe  we  going  to 

start  on  the  pads? 

CC  Okay.    And  you  might  go  to  BLOCK  on  the  computer, 

too. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    The  first  thing  I'll  give  you  is  the  SEP 

pad. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  go. 

CC  And  that  is  on  page  113. 

CMP  Okay, 

CC  Okay.    WOUK  33  is  110:27:55.00.    Roll  is  0, 

105  pitch,  and  yaw  is  0. 

CMP  Okay.    NOUK  33,  110:27:55.00,  and  roll,  pitch, 

and  yaw  as  depicted:    0,  105,  and  0.  Right? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CMP  Okay;  got  it. 

Ol^  10  5  8  29    CC  Okay.     The  next  thing  I  have  for  you  is  a  P2li  pad 

that  goes  on  page  115. 

CMP  Okay.    SUIT  TEST  valves  in  OFF  now.     On  page  115. 

Okay;  got  it. 

CC  Okay.    It'll  he  17-1;  110:58:13;  T„  is  111:00:30; 

01:00:01  -  - 

CMP  Walt  a  minute.    Wait  a  minute. 


Tape  71B/12 


LMP  . . .  deadband  attitude  . . . 

CMP  Hold  it ,  Ge  -  hold  it . 

CMP  Okay.    WIDE  DEADBMD  ATT  hold.    That's  what  I'm 

on.    And  Amer  -  Houston;  America,  I  missed  on. 

CC  Okay.     Are  you  ready  to  go  back  to  it  now? 

CMP  Okay;  ready  for  T^. 

CC  All  right,  sir.    T^:    111:00:30;  01:  -  - 

CMP  Shoot ! 

CC  -  -  00;  01:26;  Roll  015,  297,  000;  North  02.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.    I'll  read  hack  what  I  have.    T^  110:58:13. 

I  missed  T^.    TCA  is  01:00;        is  01:26;  Roll  15, 
pitch  297,  and  0;  North  02.    I  presume  17.1- 

CC  Yes,  sir.    And       time  is  111:00:30. 

CMP  Okay.  111:00:30. 

CC  That's  correct. 

CMP  Challenger  said  something  every  time  you  talked  on 

that  one. 

LMP  ...    Houston    ...    RATE  COMMAND.    Cold  fire  ... 

CMP  Hey,  Jack,  could  you  go  to  RECEIVE  only  on  the  VHF 

for  a  little  hit? 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America.    You  can  go  ahead  on  the  next 

pad. 

CC  Okay.    On  page  113,  I've  got  a  DAP  load  for  you. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    The  weight:     37983;  plus  0.1+0,  plus  0.91- 


Tape  TlB/13 


ok  11  01  38    CMP  Okay,  CSM  weight  is  37983;  pak  to  off,  plus  O.i+0; 

yak  to  off,  plus  0.9I. 

CC  Okay.    That's  correct.    And  the  last  one  comes  up 

on  page  121,  and  it's  a  LM  P76. 

CMP  Ah  ha;  okay. 

CC  Okay,  NOUTM  33. 

CMP  . . .  about  the  -  121  -  Got  it . 

CC  All  right,  sir.    112:02:51.92;  minus  - 

CMP  Okay.    ¥ait  a  mln  -  Hold  it.    America,  ... 

Challenger.    The  hot  fire  -  you  want  FREE, 
Challenger? 

CMP  Challenger,  America.    You  want  FREE  for  the  hot 

fire? 

04  11  02  39    CMP  Okay.     Going  to  FREE  now. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America.     You  can  try  that  one  again. 

CC  All  righty.    HOUN  33  is  112:02:51-92;  minus  0007-5 

and  all  zips  for  Y  and  Z. 

CMP  (Laughter).    Okay,  say  that  NOUN  33  again. 

CMP  Houston,  America.    We're  cut  out  on  NOUN  33  again, 

and  I've  got  minus  OOO7.5  and  X,  Y,  and  Z  are  0. 

CC  Okay.    And  the  time ,  112:02:51.92. 

CMP  Okay,  NOUK  33  is  112:02:51  -  112:02:51.92. 

Ok  11  ok  ok    CC  That's  correct. 

SC  ... 

CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     You're  in  ATT  hold. 

You  didn't  get  very  far  off  that  time,  either. 
That's  good.  Okay. 


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oh  11  07  Ih    CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.    Okay.    I'm  going  to 

turn  off  B3  and  also  my  roll  jets,  and  then  I'm 
going  to  undo  the  docking  latches.     ...  verified 
TRANSPONDER  is  OFF. 

CMP  Say  again  about  umbilical.    All  I  get  is  umbilical. 

I  didn't  get  the  q^uestion. 

CMP  Verify.     I  have  those  down  here. 

Ok  11  08  05    CMP  And  jet  Bravo  3  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  we're  about  5  minutes  from  LOS.  And 

the  only  thing  that  you  wouldn't  he  able  to  do 
following  right  down  your  checklist  is  to  get  the 
VHF  data  on  and  check  the  tape  recorder  at  LOS . 
The  rest  of  that  stuff  you  can  follow  right  on 
through,  and  we'll  remind  you  on  the  lithium  change 
after  descent.    So  it  looks  like  we're  caught  up 
again . 

Ol*  11  08  52    CC  And,  America;  Houston. 

CMP  Okay  . .  . 

CC  You  have  a  GO  for  undocking  from  here. 

CMP  Roger.    Go  for  undocking. 

Ok  11  09  28    CMP  Okay.    Number  1  is  disconnected;  and,  Houston, 

could  you  watch  my  0^  flow  -  as  I  disconnect 

these  things? 
CC  Yes,  s\ire. 

CMP  Okay.    Two  clocks  on  ntanber  2,  and  that's  out  of 

the  way.    Number  1  J-hook  is  out  of  the  way.  One 
hook  -  Okay,  that's  three  of  them  on  number  3, 
and  it's  out  of  the  way.    Nijmber  k  was  already  cut. 
And  it ' s  out  of  the  way .     Okay ,  number  5 •     One , 
two  -  and  it's  fully  released,  and  the  hook  is  off 
of  the  docking  ring.    Okay.    Number  6  is  -  one,  two 
£tnd  it's  fully  released,  and  the  hook  is  off  of 
the  docking  ring.    Okay,  T  is  released,  and  the 
hook  is  off  of  the  docking  ring.    0^  flow  still 
okay? 


Tape  7IB/I5 


CC  Yes,  sir.    Looking  good. 

OI+  11  11  ok    CMP  Okay,  here's  number  8.    Here's  one,  two.    And  the 

chute's  fully  released,  and  the  hook  is  off  the 
docking  ring. 

OU  11  11  22    CMP  Okay,  here's  number  9.    One,  two,  and  she's  fully 

released;  the  hook  clears  the  docking  ring.  Okay, 
number  10.    Here's  one,  two  -  fully  released,  and 
the  hook  clears  the  docking  ring .    There ' s  one  . . . 
Okay,  handle's  free;  J-hook  clears  the  ring.  I've 
only  got  one  more  to  go.    There's  the  first  latch 
there's  two  latches  ...  came  over.    And  the  hook 
stays  clear;  the  handle  is  free.    And,  by  golly, 
they're  all  off.    Hey,  Challenger;  America. 
You're  hanging  on  those  three  little  bitty  things. 
Okay.     I  put  the  old  -  hatch  in. 

Ok  11  12  U9     CC  Okay,  Ron,  we're  within  a  minute  of  LOS.     Your  0^ 

flow  still  looks  good,  and  the  rest  of  the  stuff 
that  you  can  get  on  the  VHF  is  going  to  be  Just 
fine.    You're  right  on  schedule  now. 

CMP  Okay.    I'll  get  that  VHF  stuff  and  then  put  the 

hatch  in. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  in  RECEIVE  ONLY  to  B  DATA.  Hey, 

Challenger;  America.    I'm  going  to  RECEIVE  ONLY 
the  B  DATA. 

Ok  11  13  37    CMP  Hey,  Challenger;  America. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  72A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10 

Ih 

ho 

CC 

Still  loud  and  clear. 

ok 

10 

Ih 

h6 

LMF 

Roger.    Okay  . . . 

oh 

10 

15 

10 

LMP 

Hello,  Houston.    I'm  ready  to  give  you  an  E-memoiy 

dump. 

CC 

Okav .     We're  readv  to  take  it.     (ro  ahead 

LMP 

Okay,  Ron,  how  do  you  -  Ron,  how  do  you  read 

on  SIMPLEX  Bravo? 

OU 

10 

15 

23 

LMP 

I  do  not  read  you.     Coming  at  you. 

oh 

10 

15 

3T 

LMP 

Hey,  Ron,  I  do  not  read  you.     Check  your  VHP  switch. 

Oh 

10 

16 

03 

LMP 

I  do  not  read  you.    Do  you  read  me? 

Oh 

10 

16 

5h 

LMP 

Okay.     I've  got  you;  I  got  you. 

Oh 

10 

IT 

01 

LMP 

Okay.    How  do  you  read  on  VHP  Bravo?    You're  loud 

and  clear. 

Oh 

10 

IT 

OT 

LMP 

That  was  my  fault,  Ron. 

LMP 

Okay.     It  was  just  warming  up.     You're  loud  and 

clear  now. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.     I've  got  a  couple  I  want  to  pass 

out  to  you. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay.     When  I  first  put  in  the   

LMP  Okay,  Ron,  how  do  you  read  now? 

CDR   LGC  breaker  - 

CDR  Stand  hy,  Houston. 

LMP  Am  I  clipping  now,  Ron? 


Tape  72A/2 

MP  Am  I  clipping  now? 

01+  10  18  00    LMP  Okay.    How  do  you  read  now? 

LMP  Okay.    I  guess  we're  okay.    It  was  the  squelch. 

CDR  Ron,  how  do  you  hear,  Gene? 

CDR  Okay;  very  good. 

Ok  10  18  22    LMP  How  do  you  read  the  LMP  now,  Ron? 

ok  10  18  3k    LMP  Okay.    How  do  you  read  now? 

LMP  How  do  you  read  now? 

01+  10  18  1+1+    LMP  Okay.    I've  got  the  SQUELCH  to  full  decrease. 

LMP  Okay.    Do  you  read  Gene,  Ron? 

Olt  10  l8  58    CDR  Okay.    We're  going  to  press  on  and  get  these  VHF 

checks  GO.    We  can  cut  them. 

Ol*  10  19  20    LMP  Okay,  Ron.    How  do  you  read  on  Alfa? 

Olt  10  19  27    LMP  How  do  you  read  on  Alfa,  Ron? 

ok  10  19  1+9    LMP  How  do  you  read  on  Alfa,  Ron? 

Oi+  10  20  01    CDR  Okay.     How  do  you  read  me? 

CDR  This  is  Gene .     How  do  you  read  me  on  Alfa? 

0l+  10  20  07    CDR  Okay.     Let's  press  on.     You're  getting  us  inter- 

mittent.   We  can  get  it. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  pretty  sure  the  VHF  is  all 

ri^t  -  - 

CDR    It  seems  to  have  something  to  do  with  the 

SQUELCH  setting,  and  it's  protably  "because  we're 
so  close. 

Ol+  10  20  28    CC  Okay.    We  concur.    We'd  like  you  to  press  on 

and  not  worry  about  the  VHF  any  more  now. 


Tape  T2A/3 


Oh  10  20  35    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    ¥e  are.    Here's  a  couple  of  quick 

ones.    When  I  pushed  the  LGC  DSKY  breELker  IN,  I 
did  not  get  a  restart  light.    The  keyboard  came 
up  with  UOO  in  R-2.    The  LGC  light  vas  already 
on,  and  it  went  off  as  prescribed.    When  I  did  a 
VERB  35  J  I  got  all  the  proper  lights  except  when 
the  LGC  and  ISS  lights  came  on,  the  entire  caution 
and  warning  dimmed.    One  more  item.    In  our  DAP 
setting,  we  are  reading  in  our  checklist  for  R-1 
plus  6^*5  and  for  R-2  plus  6kl.     The  DSKY  DAP  came 
up  plus  6hl  and  plus  61+5.     It  Just  reversed  those 
numbers .    And  I 'm  going  to  deploy  the  landing 
gear. 

Ok  10  21  36    CC  Okay. 

OU  10  21  51    CDR  Okay,  Ho\iston.     MASTER  ARM  is  on,  and  B  light  is 

on. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Roger.    Are  you  ready  for  a  landing  gear? 

CDR  Ron,  if  you  read,  the  landing  gear  is  coming  on 

my  MARK. 

CDR  3,  2,  1  - 

Oh  10  22  11    CDR  MARK. 

Oh  10  22  Ik    CDR  Hey,  Houston.    We  got  a  good  one  out  front. 

CC  Sounds  good. 

Ol+  10  22  22    CC  We  show  them  all  deployed. 

Oh  10  22  2k    CDR  And  the  flag  is  gray.    Okay.    The  flag  is  gray. 

CC  Roger. 

ok  10  22  27    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    The  PRIMARY  EVAP  FLOW  time,  108  - 

EVAP  FLOW  time  108:l6:55.     And  I'm  ready  to  copy 
your  abort  constants  and  a  DOI-2  pad. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    Here  come  the  abort  constants. 

22l+  is  -  6  -  - 


Tape  72A/U 


LMP  Stand  "by,  Gordy. 

CC  Okay.    Stand  by. 

CDR  Ron,  when  you  get  the  tunnel  closed  out,  I'll 

need  you  for  an  IMU  coarse  align. 

oh  10  23  15    CDR  Okay.    I'll  need  your  NOLTN  20s,  when  you  get  a 

chEince. 

Oh  10  23  18    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    You  can  go  ahead,  and  you  have  DATA 

on  the  UPDATA  LINK. 


CC 


Okay.    We'll  have  the  up-llnk  in  a  minute.    22h  is 
6o4TO,  2936U,  60386,  0059^+,  32772,  51+1+01+.    Go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay.    60it70,  2936U,  60386,  00591+,  32772,  5I+I+0I+. 

CC  Okay.    That  was  a  good  readhack.    Ready  with 

DOI-2  when  you  are. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    The  -  it's  DOI-2;  T.     time  is  112:02:^0.92; 

NOUN  81  is  a  minus  0007.5,  DELTA-V    plus  all  "balls, 
and  DELTA-Vg  is  plus  all  halls. 

CC  NOUN  1+2,  00615  -  - 

CC    plus  00067  -  - 

CC  -  -  00075;  burn  time  0:22;  000,  07I+. 

CC  And  373  is  a  0122.7- 

CC  The  AGS  DELTA-Vs  are  NA. 


LMP 


Okay,  Gordy.    112:02 : Uo. 92  ;  minus  three  zeros  75, 
plus  all  zeros,  plus  all  zeros;  OO615,  plus 
three  zeros  67,  three  zeros  75;  0:22;  all  zeros, 
07I+;  0122.7;  rest  of  pad  NA. 


OI+  10  26  11+    CC  That's  correct.  Jack. 


CDR 


Okay.    Stand  by  -  I've  -  let's  see.  Okay. 


Tape  72A/5 


CDR  Okay,     I  need  your  numbers  then.     NOUN  20. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy.    I'm  going  to  start  the  lunar  hatt 

check,  and  it'll  be  silent. 

CC  Okay.    We're  watching. 

CDR  Ron,  I  need  your  -  your  NOtW  20  numbers. 

CDR  Okay.    I  got  356.95,  106.3lt,  and  001. U9. 

OI+  10  27  17    CC  Challenger,  we  want  to  get  the  attitude  tweaked 

hack  up  closer  to  the  normal  before  doing  the 
coarse  align. 

CDR  Hey,  Ron,  they  want  a  more  normal  attitude  for  you. 

You're  not  quite  nominal. 

CDR  If  you're  talking  to  me.  It's  about  0  -  IOI1.7 

and  then  0. 

ok  10  28  05    CC  Challenger,  the  up-link's  in  there.     It's  your 

computer. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    Thank  you.    And,  Ron,  let  me  know 

when  you're  tweaJsed  up,  and  then  go  MIN  DEADBAND 
ATT  HOLD. 

oh  10  29  18    CDR  Okay.     Read  out  NOUU  20. 

CMP  Okay.    VERB  6  NOUN  20.    000.32,  lOl+.l+O,  359.55- 

CDR  Okay.     I  got  all  those. 

CMP  Okay. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     I  skipped  a  step  on  LUHAR  BAT, 

0FF/RESE7F;  I'll  go  back. 

Oh  10  30  ih    CC  Jack,  we  need  the  -  we  think  you  missed  a  step. 

We  need  to  - 

CC  CDR,  LIMAR  BAT,  OFF/RESET. 

LMP  Yes.     That's  right,  I'll  go  -  that's  affirm;  I'll 

go  back.     Stand  by. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  72A/6 


Ok  10  30  kO    LMP  Okay.    I 'm  back  to  LUNAR  BAT  -  LMP  LUNAR  BAT 

OFF/RESET. 

CC  Roger. 

Oh  10  30  58    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    For  the  LM,  I've  got  300.88,  281|, 

and  three  halls  h3 .    How  does  that  sound? 

CC  Stand  by.    We're  checking. 

OU  10  31  56    CC  Okay,  Geno.    Those  angles  are  okay. 

Oit  10  31  57    CDE  Okay,  figured  they  were.    They're  going  in. 

Ok  10  33  3k    CDR  Okay,  Ron.    On  my  mark,  I'd  like  an  06  20. 

CDR  Okay;  3,  2,  1  - 

Oh  10  33  hi    cm  MARK  it. 

CDR  Okay.     Got  those. 


CC 


LMP 


Okay,  Challenger.  We've  got  those  angles  here 
on  the  ground   


LMP  Okay   

CC  -  -  for  both  spacecraft. 

CDR  Fine,  Gordy. 

Ok  10  3k  31    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  ED  bat,  37-2,  37-2  at  109:lU:00. 

0I+  10  3k  kO    CC  Roger. 


And  all  battery  indications  on  board  were  normal, 
once  I  got  started. 


CC  Okay.    They  look  good  to  us,  also. 

CDR  Ron,  I  want  you  to  stay  in  that  MIN  DEADBAND  ATT 

HOLD.     I'm  going  to  do  a  P52. 

CO  Okay. 
Ok  10  35  36    LMP  Houston,  this  is  the  LMP  -  - 


Tape  T2A/T 


LMP  -  -  a  couple  minor  things  on  the  back-side  check- 

out.   The  secondary  glycol  pump,  when  I  started  it, 
the  sound  and  the  pressure  was  ragged,  oscillated 
around  -  20  psi,  and  then  stabilized-    After  about 
15  seconds,  it  sounded  smooth.    It  had  a  sound  as 
if  it  was  cavitating  a  little  bit;  but,  after 
that ,  it  was  smooth .    Over . 

CC  Copy  that ,  Jack . 

LMP  And  on  step  3  on  page  3-15  -  - 

LMP   When  I  went  to  SUIT  FAN  1,  I  got  a  MASTER 

ALARM  

LMP  -  -  but  all  other  indications  were  okay,  and  the 

MASTER  ALARM  reset. 

CC  Okay. 

oh  10  36  hi    LMP  Okay.    I'm  sorry.    I  misinterpreted  the  words 

there;  I  should  have  gotten  that.     Forget  that 
one . 

CC  Roger.    We  concur. 

Ol+  10  37  00    LMP  Okay,  Geno.     You  need  some  help? 

oh  10  38  i»8    CDR  ...  what  star  you  got,  30?    Or  no,  what  star? 

LMP  Loaded  it?    Okay.    Okay,  and  those  are  the  num- 

bers. Hey,  that's  good.  Okay.  You  ready  to  mark? 
What  do  you  want  first?  ... 

oh  10  ho  31    CC  Jack,  we'd  like  to  take  a  look  at  the  glycol 

pump  pressTore.     Can  you  close  the  GLYCOL  PUMP 
SECONDARY  pressure  breaker? 

LMP  . . .  Better  finish  this . 

LMP  Gordy,  you  want  the  secondary? 

CC  That's  affirmative;  panel  I6,  GLYCOL  PUMP  SECOND- 

ARY breaker  -  third  row,  in  the  middle. 


Tape  72A/8 


I 


Ok  10  k2  20    LMP  Okay.    We've  got  a  GLYCOL  light,  and  the  tempera- 

ture is  50. 

CC  Okay.    The  pressure  looked  good  there.    We'd  like 

that  hreaker  back  open.    The  MASTER  ALARM  you 
have  is  normsLl, 

LMP  Roger.    Understand  it. 

oh  10  h6  k8    CDR  Ron,  keep  in  MIH  DEADBAND  ATT  hold.     I've  got  to 

finish  the  P52. 

CDR  No,  just  stay  where  you  are. 

CDR  Just  stay  where  you  are,  and  put  it  in  MIH 

DEADBAND. 

01+  10  k2  11    CDR  No!     N-0,  no. 

Ol+  10  kQ  52    CDR  Hey,  Ron,    This  is  Challenger.    We're  going  to 

be  off  your  loop  for  awhile,  so  we  can  finish  the 
mark. 

Oil  10  53  IT    CDR  Hello,  Houston. 


CDR 


That  looked  to  be  a  pretty  good  alignment  from 
where  I  saw  it.    There's  07  for  you. 


Ok  10  53  25    CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

Olt  10  5k  03    CC  Okay,  Challenger.    Torque  them. 

01+  10  5I*  35    CDR  Hello,  America;  Challenger.    We  no  longer  need 

your  MIN  DEADBAND. 

Ol+  10  ^k  1+9    CDR  Okay.    But  I  would  like  a  NOUN  20  from  you  on 

my  mark. 

01+  10  55  00    CDR  Okay;  3,  2,  1  - 

01+  10  55  02  CDR  MARK. 
01+  10  55  22    CDR  Okay. 

Ol+  10  55  37    CC  Okay,  Challenger,  we've  got  the  NOUN  20s,  both 

spacecraft . 


Tape  72A/9 


Ok 

10 

56 

22 

CC 

Challenger,  Houston,  we're  ready  anytime  for  the 
RCS  pressurization.    You  might  turn  the  data 
switch  off. 

ok 

10 

56 

33 

CDR 

We  Just  got  that,  and  we're  going. 

ok 

10 

56 

36 

CC 

Okay. 

ok 

10 

57 

05 

CDR 

MASTER  ARM  is  ON;  I've  got  one  good  light  - 
SYSTEM  A. 

ok 

10 

57 

09 

CC 

Okeydoke . 

ok 

10 

57 

22 

CDR 

Okay .     On  my  mark ;  3 ,  2 ,  1  - 

ok 

10 

57 

25 

CDR 

MASK  it.    We  heard  it. 

ok 

10 

58 

08 

CC 

Okay,  ChaJ-lenger.    We  saw  it,  and  it  looks  good. 
RCS  looks  good. 

ok 

10 

58 

Ik 

CDR 

Looks  good  on  board,  Gordo. 

ok 

10 

59 

Ok 

CDR 

Okay,  Houston.    Verify  high  bit  rate  -  and,  Ron, 
we  need  you  in  WIDE  DEADBAND  ATTITUDE /HOLD . 

ok 

10 

59 

23 

CC 

Challenger,  we  verify  high  bit  rate. 

ok 

10 

59 

k2 

CDR 

Okay.     Here  we  go,  Houston,  with  the  cold  fire 
check . 

ok 

10 

59 

1+5 

CC 

Okay.    All  set. 

ok 

11 

00 

kk 

CDR 

Okay,  Houston.     PGNs  RATE  COMMAND  (Cold  Fire), 
AGS  pulse  (Cold  Fire)  check. 

ok 

11 

00 

1+8 

CC 

Okay;  press  on. 

ok 

11 

02 

03 

LMP 

All  right,  Houston.     Step  i+.     AGS  RATE  COMMAND 
(Cold  Fire),  k  JET  SECONDARY  COIL  (Hot  Fire) 
check . 

ok 

11 

02 

09 

CC 

Okay.     Go.    We're  looking  good  so  far.  . 

ok 

11 

02 

11 

LMP 

Hey,  Ron.    We're  going  to  have  some  hot  fires  here 

We're  going  to  have  some  hot  fires  here  in  a 
minute . 


Tape  72A/10 


Oh  11  02  26 

LMP 

It's  affirm.    Go  CMC  MODE  FREE. 

ok  11  02  36 

CDR 

That  is  affirm.    We  want  you  FREE,  Ron. 

OU  11  02  55 

CDR 

Ron,  go  RECEIVE  ONLY. 

OU  11  03  h6 

CDR 

Houston,  hardover  looked  good  from  here. 

Ok  11  03  50 

CO 

Okay;  looked  good  down  here. 

OU  11  03  55 

LMP 

All  right,  Houston.    PONS  MINIMUM  IMPULSE  (Hot 
Fire)  check. 

Ok  11  03  59 

CC 

Okay. 

Ol*  11  ok  2k    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    We  had  a  sticky  talkhack  red  on 

SYSTEM  A,  QUAD  k.    And  it  went  to  gray  with  a  tap. 

Ok  11  Ok  36    CC  Okay,  Jack. 

ok  11  06  05    CDR  Okay  -  Ron,  the  hot  fire  checks  are  complete.  You 

can  go  into  WIDE  DEADBAND  ATT /HOLD. 

Ok  11  06  17    CC  Challenger,  those  all  look  good  here. 

Ok  11  06  19    CDR  And  I  think  we  got  them  all.     Okay,  Gordo. 

Understand. 

Ok  11  06  k9    CDR  Okay.    We're  on  the  top  of  3-28,  Gordo. 

Ok  11  06  52    CC  Roger.    We're  with  you. 

01+  11  07  18    CDR  Go  -  go  ahead,  Ron. 

Ok  11  07  27    LMP  Okay,  you  want  to  verify  your  -  your  transponder  is 

OFF  as  well  as  B3? 

OI+  11  07  3k    CDR  Okay,    And  you  did  get  the  umbilicals.  Right? 

Ok  11  07  39    CDR  You  did  get  the  LM-to-CM  umbilicals,  right? 

Ok  11  07  kj    CDR  Did  you  disconnect  the  LM-to-CM  umbilicals? 

Verify. 

01+  11  07  3k    CDR  Okay.    Very  good. 


Tape  72A/11 


Ok  11  08  20    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We  cannot  completely  explain 

the  startup  indications  you  had  on  the  PGNS,  but 
they  are  of  no  great  concern.     It  looks  good  so 
far.     The  DAP  gimbal  trims  are  no  problem.  Don't 
bother  changing  them.     And  there  will  be  no  PIPA 
bias  update  yet,  anyway.  Over. 

oh  11  08  kl    CDR  Okay.    Understand.    Was  the  checklist  written  back- 

wards on  that? 

Ok  11  08  kl    CC  It  was  a  Cape  problem  on  their  tape,  and  they  had 

it  reversed.    But  it's  in  the  noise  level,  anyway. 
No  problem. 

OI+  11  08  56    CDR  Okay. 

ok  11  09  39    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    You  have  a  GO  for  undocking 

and  sep. 

ok  11  09  kk    CDR  Roger;  understand.    A  GO  for  undocking  and  sep. 

OI+  11  12  35    CDR  Okay.    Fine,  Ron. 

Ok  11  12  38    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    About  1  minute  to  LOS,  and 

we'll  see  you  when  you  come  aroxmd  the  other  side, 
independently . 

ok  11  12  1+8    CDR  Okay,  Gordo;  vmderstand.    I'm  in  step  U,  RENDEZVOUS 

RADAR  mode  ...  to  AUTO , 

Ok  11  12  53    CC  Roger. 

OU  11  13  00     CDR  And  the  radar  has  come  out,  and  I'm  in  RADAR  TEST 

now. 

ok  11  13  08    CC  Jack,  Just  a  friendly  reminder  to  do  the  LOS  proce- 

dures on  the  steerable . 

Ok  11  13  18    LMP  Okay. 

Ol;  11  31  XX  BEGin  LUKAR  REV  12 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  72B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ok  11  02  31    CMP  Okay.    ChaO-lenger,  America. 

CC  America,  Houston;  standing  by. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.    This  is  America.    We're  floating 

free  out  here.    The  Challenger  looks  real  pretty. 
The  residuals  on  the  'Phi  were  plus  1.9 »  minus  0.2, 
and  0.    Undock  and  sep  was  on  time. 

CC  Sounds  good. 

OU  11  31  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  12 

Ol*  12  06  32    CC  America,  Houston.    ¥hen  you  have  an  opportxmity , 

how  about  cycling  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  WIDE  and  back 
to  REACQ? 

CMP  Okay.     Can  do. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

CC  Okay,  America.    How  about  going  back  to  NARROW  on 

the  antenna.    And  covild  you  verify  what  you  loaded 
on  NOUN  3U?    It  went  by  so  fast  on  the  down-link, 
we  didn't  get  it  a  chance  to  look  at  it. 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  call  it  again  here. 

CMP  There,  you  got  it? 

CC  Okay.    That  looks  good. 

CMP  Does  that  look  okay? 

CC  Yes,  sir.     Sure  does, 

CMP  Okay.    No  update  then,  huh? 

CC  TSiat's  correct. 

Olt  12  08  05     CMP  Okay. 


Tape  72B/2 


ok  12  10  20    CC  America,  can  you  verify  that  you  gave  us  NARROW 

on  the  HIGH  GAIN? 

CMP  Houston,  America,     Say  again. 

CC  Could  you  verify  that  you  gave  us  NARROW  on  the 

HIGH  GAIN  AKTEMA,  please? 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


Negative,  I  gave  you  WIDE.     (Laughter)  I'll  give 
you  NARROW  now. 

Okay.  I  -  I  asked  for  WIDE  awhile  back,  and  guess 
■we  missed  the  call  there. 

Got  your  eyehall  in  that  telescope? 


CMP  I'm  about  to. 

Oh  12  12  2k    CMP  Okay,  Houston j  America.     Had  50  percent  on  mag 

Charlie  Charlie  when  I  changed  mags  there  for  the 
landmark  tracking.    And  let's  see,  frame  110,  I 
think  -  or  112  -  let  me  look  on  that  one. 


CMP 


Frame  103  on  mag  00.     Shoot.     I  mean,  pardon  the 
French  (laughter).     Okay;  go  ahead.  Challenger. 
How  you  guys  doing? 


MP-LM  Hey,  Ron,  this  is  . . .  coming  up. 

CMP  Looks  like  it's  pretty  low  down  there. 

LMP-LM  Well,  when  you're  up  here  looking  ... 

CMP  (Laughter)    I'll  bet. 

01+  12  16  55    CMP  Hey.  Challenger;  America. 

CC  Okay,  America.    You're  coming  up  on  3  seconds  to 

T-1. 

CMP  Okay,  3  seconds  to  T-1.     Thank  you. 

Ok  12  18  26    CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     Good  luck  on  your  PDI 

burn  there.  I'm  going  to  track  your  landmark  for 
you. 


Tape  T2B/3 


CDR-LM  Okay,  "babe.     Have  a  ... 

CMP  Will  do. 

CDR-LM  Don't  forget,  no  TEI  ... 

CMP  Yes,  I  got  it,  too. 

LMP-IM  Hey,  ...    We  got  the  Xanding  site;  we're  coming  ... 

CMP  That  slide  really  shows  up  'beautiful. 

Oh  12  20  02    CC  Okay.     Coming  up  on  30  seconds  to  T-2.    Expect  the 

AUTO  pitch  rate,  and  remember,  the  good  old  Sun  is 
going  to  he  staring  at  you  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  -  -  when  you  come  around. 

Ol+  12  21  25    CMP  Beautiful  results. 

CMP  Blink!    There's  the  Sun  in  the  sextant. 

CMP  Oh,  those  guys  are  going  to  have  fun  down  there . 

CMP  (Laughter) 

oh  12  23  l6    CMP  Oh,  Houston,  I  got  so  excited  on  that,  I  forgot  to 

turn  the  camera  On. 

CC  Oh,  that's  fair?    You  got  any  comments  to  make  on 

any  of  those  marks?    They  were  -  they  were  collect- 
ing the  marks  in  real  time.    Do  you  have  any  that 
they  ougiht  to  pay  particular  attention  to? 

CMP  Well,  let  me  think  for  a  minute,  now.     They  were 

all  within  the  crater  itself.    None  of  them  were 
outside  of  the  crater.     The  -  the  last  ones  I 
took  at  -  started  taking  marks  at  -  beyond  what 
the  really  time  was,  Just  because  you  could  still 
see  it.     So  I  wouldn't  put  too  much  faith  in 
those  -  in  about  the  last  four. 

CC  Okay.    Sounds  good. 


Tape.  12B/k 

Oh  12  25  39    CMP  Challenger,  America.    Yon  want  to  tr^-r  VHE  F.^iMGING 

RAIIGING  and  RENLT'JZVOUS  RADAP  conrparo? 

CMP  Okay.    TRAHSPONDER  oondng  0N»  short!:/-. 

Ok  12  26  08    CMP  Okay.     ^IIIMSPOHDER'S  ON  now. 

CC  America,  sounds  like  Qialleng^r  is  E?till  wc'rXir.'^ 

on  their  RESET,  if  you  wfjit  to  go  absad  and  g=t~ 
your  52  out  of  the  way  \-hile  you're  waiting  for 
the  rajige  check.     That  mi.ght  save  a  little  time. 

CMP  Okay.    I  think  they're  about  ready  to  dc  it  now. 

Challenger,  America.    You  ahout  ready  for  a  VHF 
RAMGING? 

Ok  12  28  51    CMP  Okay.     There  goes  RESET.  Wow. 


CMP 


Ah-ha!  It  works!  Point  -  O.'jO  miles.  Okay,  0,50 
or  0.i*9  miles. 


Ok  12  30  07    CMP  Okay,  I'm  going  to  turn  the  RAWGING,  OFF,  then. 

Coram' s  a  little  better  that  way. 

Ok  12  33  3^    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  you  copying  the  93? 

CC  Yes,  sir.    Talk  any  time. 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  talk  at  1+5:13:)|5. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  And,  America;  Houston.    Have  some  vectors  to  send 

if  you  give  us  ACCEPT.  And  we're  standing  by  with 
a  pad. 

Ok  12  35  50    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America,  ready  to  copy.    Pad's  here, 

and  you  have  ACCEPT. 

CC  Okay.    First  one  vill  be  the  circ  pad,  or  the  same 

page. 

CMP  Okay.    Press  on. 

CC  SPS/G&Hi  37983;  plus  O.i+O,  plus  O.9I;  111:57:28.09; 

plus  0070.5.     DELT.A-V„  is  all  zips;  DE7.T.A-V^^, 


Tape  72B/5 


minus  0000.5;  0Q0»  092,  358;  OO69.7,  plus  OO5U.5J 
0070. 5,  0:0U,  0059.9.    The  stars  are  Sirius  and 
Rlgel;  133,  200,  030.    The  ullage  is  four  jets  for 
12  seconds.     Comment  on  your  PC:     If  you  happen  to 
notice  the  chamber  pressure,  it'll  probably  be 
rrmning  90  to  95,  and  we're  predicting  that  it'll 
show  you  about  6  psi  less  than  what  the  actual 
chamber  pressure  is. 

CMP  JUi-ha!    Okay,  that's  good  to  know  on  that  chamber 

pressure.    What  you're  saying  is  that  even  during 
the  LOI  bum,  the  velocity  gain  and  what-have-you 
was  -  for  chamber  pressure,  probably  up  around  a 
little  better  than  100,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

CC  We've  got  a  couple  of  transducer  problems  we'll  -  - 

CMP  I've  got  a  readback  on  that  circ  pad. 

CC   Talk  about  them  some  time  when  we're  bored. 

CMP  Okay.    For  the  P30  circ  pad.    NOUN  37-1  meaxi 

NOUN  kj  is  37983;  plxis  O.UO,  plus  O.9I; 
111:57:28.09;  NOUN  8I,  plus  0070.5,  zero  on  the  X, 
and  a  minus  0.5  on  the  Z.    Okay.    The  roll  is  0; 
pitch,  092;  yaw,  358.    NOUN  kh  is  69.7  and  a  plus 
5^.5.    DELTA-V  total,  70.5;  hum  time,  0:0i+; 
DELTA-V,  59.9.     Sirius  and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030. 
That  will  be  tour  jets  at  12-second  ullage. 

CC  Okay.    That's  a  good  readback.     I  have  your  RP-3 

tracking  pad. 

CMP  Okay.    Ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay.    RP-3:     112:17:01,  21:51,  23:31,  2U:19, 

north  ok. 

CMP  Okay.     Copy  that.     Hey,  while  I  think  about  it, 

on  the  landmark  tracking  there  in  that  lower 
attitude  mark,  the  computer  wsis  pointing  me  -  I 


Tape  72B/6 


wish  I  knew.     I'd  have_t.o  get  a  map  to  look  at  the 
name  of  it,  hut  there  i  consider  Sherlock.  And 
then  the  one  to  the  south  of  that,  and  then  another 
one  to  the  south  of  that.    There  are  three  in  a  row. 
And  it  was  pointing  to  the  one  just  soT.ith  of 
Sherlock  -  one  about  the  same  size  as  IT-i.  Okay. 
A  readhaek  on  RP-3.    T-1,  112:17:01;  T-2,  21:51 
23:31,  2U:19;  he  north,  Ok  miles. 

Okay,  that's  good.    And  I  have  the  -  the  other  pads 
if  you're  ready  to  copy  them,  or  if  you  want  to 
press  on,  then  we'll  com.e  back  and  pick  them  up 
later.    Your  choice. 

0lll2  UO  55    CMP  Why  don't  I  get  started  to  the  VERB  ^9  attitude, 

then  I'll  get  the  rest  of  the  pads,  okay? 


CC 


CC 

CC 

CMP 
CMP 


CC 


All  right,  sir.  I  think  that  sounds  like  a  good 
plan. 

And  we're  through  with  our  up-link,  you  can  go  to 
BLOCK  when  you  want  to. 


Okay.     Got  you  loud  and  clear,  too. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Okay.     PROCEED.     Okay,  Challenger 

and  Houston.     I'm  maneuvering  to  circ  burn 
attitude  -  Okay,  sure  will  -  Ah-ha!  Great! 

01^  12  45  1*0    CMP  And,  Houston;  America  here.     While  we're  maneuver- 

ing I'll  go  to  RECEIVE  on  the  VHP,  and  you  can 
send  those  pads  E  to  N  up. 


Okay.     Here  they  come.     Echo:  113:02:00 


CMP  Wait      minute.    Hold  it.    Hold  it.    Hold  it.  Hold 

It.    I'll  tell  those  guys  to  go  it  -  to  RECEIVE 
only.    Hey,  Challenger;  America.    Okay,  Jack,  can 
you  go  to  RECEIVE  only  on  your  VHP?    I've  got  all 
these  pads  to  pick  up  now.     I'll  call  you  when  - 
when  I'm  all  through. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.     Let's  tiy  it  again  on 

pad  E. 


/ 


Tape  72B/7 


CC  All  righty.    Pad  Echo:  113:02  all  zeros;  Foxtrot: 

pltis  10l3.it,  plus  all  zips,  minus  0050.0;  Golf: 
113:57:00.001  Hotel:    115:36:1+5.00.  India: 
112:1+9:52.35.    Juliett:    115:36:1+5.00.  Kilo: 
117:35:^5.00.    Lima:    113;ll+:2l+.91;  Mike: 
119:3l+:30.00;  November:     llU:57:19.09.  Over. 

CMP  Okay,  readback  as  follows:     Echo:  113:02  all  zips; 

plus  0103. 1+,  all  zips,  minus  0050.0;  Golf:  113:57 
all  zips;  115:36:1+5.00.     112:1+9:52.35.  115:36:1+5.00. 
Kilo:     117:35:1+5-00.     Lima:  113:ll+:2l+.91; 
lll+:3l+:30.00;  HovemlDer:    lll+:5T:19.09.  Over. 

CC  Okay,  let's  go  back  over  Mike  again.  Hiat's 

119 : 3I+ : 30 , 00.    The  rest  are  correct. 

CMP  Okay.    On  Mike,  119:3l+:30.00. 

CC  Okay,  got  them  all. 

CMP  Amazing. 

Ol+  12  1+9  3h    CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     I'm  through  with  all 

the  pads  now. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  73A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ok  12  01  35    CDR-IM      Hello,  Houston.     Do  you  read  Challenger? 

Olt  12  01         CDR-m      Hello,  Houston.     ...  Challenger  ...? 

Oh  12  01  58    CC  Hello,  Challenger;  Houston.     You're  very,  very 

•weak.  Over. 

Ok  12  02  Ok    cm-m      Okay,  Houston.     Challenger  ...  checkout  is  complet 

...  and  we're  looking  at  America,  the  beautiful. 

CC  Okay,  Geno,  I  understand  you're  undocked.  But 

we're  not  reading,  hut  about  10  percent  of  what 
you're  saying.     Standby  ... 

Ok  12  03  20    IWP-LM      Houston,  this  is  Challenger.     Won't  hold  on  the 

steerable  antenna  yet.     It  looks  like  I'm  getting 
oscillations  in        up-link  signal  strength,  and 
then  it  gradually  drops  off  to  zero. 

01+  12  03  35     CC  Okay,  Jack.     We're  reading  you  better  now. 

Understand. 

Olt  12  03  kk    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo.     If  you're  reading,  you  got  the  words 

We  are  undocked.     Landing  radar  self  test  is  GO. 
We're  ready  to  press  on  to  the  DPS  throttle  check, 
and  we've  been  looking  at  America,  the  beautiful. 
It's  rare  form. 


CC 


Okay,  Geno.     We've  got  that.     It  sounds  good. 


Ol4  12  Ok  05    CDR-IM      Okay,  and  the  residuals  on  Fkf  at  undocking  were 

0,  minus  0.1,  and  0. 

0l+  12  Oil  Ik     CC  Okay.     We  copy  that.     We'd  like  you  to  try  the 

steerable  again. 

01+  12  01+  35    IMP-LM      Okay,  Houston;  we've  got  it. 


CC 


Okay.    You  sound  real  good;  loud  and  clear. 


IMP-LM      Okay ,  let  me  give  you  some  NOUM  20  angles ,  if  you 
want  them. 


CC 


Go  ahead.    Ready  to  copy, 


Tape  73A/2 


IMP- 

-m 

The  IM:    plus  301.09,  plus  28U,53,  plus  359.^*8; 
the  CSM:    pltis  three  zeros  35,  pliis  IOU.67, 
Talus  000  S?  ■  +h(=  -Htup-     iin-pli-nn  n-tm-y 

01+ 

12 

05 

20 

CC 

Okay,  Jack,    We  got  that. 

ok 

12 

05 

25 

CDR- 

-m 

Okay,  Gordo;  we're  ready.     DPS  throttle  check. 
I'm  ready  to  hit  engine  stop. 

Qk 

12 

05 

30 

CC 

Stand  by.     Okay;  we're  ready. 

Ok 

12 

05 

39 

CDE- 

-m 

Okay.     And  the  light  is  on.     The  REG  light  is  ON 

Ok 

12 

05 

51 

CC 

Roger.    We're  showing  the  ENGINE  ARM  circuit 
ureaiter  may  ue  out,     wouia  you  check  that.' 

Oh 

12 

06 

17 

IMP- 

-IM 

"i^tsV  •    J.  la  buiijr  ,  Lroray,    h  ±iT/Tj±e  —  we  misseu. 
that  here.     Okay,  we'll  try  it  again. 

Ok 

12 

07 

21 

CDR- 

■m 

Gordy,  if  the  throttle  test  looked  okay,  I'll  go 
ENGINE  ARM  OFF. 

Ok 

12 

07 

26 

CC 

Okay.     It  looked  real  good.     Go  ahead. 

Ok 

12 

09 

23 

CDR- 

■m 

Okay,  Gordy,  the  MASTER  ARM  is  coming  on. 

Ok  12 

09 

25 

CC 

Roger. 

Ok 

12 

09 

28 

CDR- 

■m 

I  got  two  good  lights . 

Ok 

12 

09 

30 

CC 

Two  lights . 

Ok 

12 

09 

36 

CDR- 

■m 

Okay;  on  my  mark.     DESCENT  PROP  ISOL  VALVE.  3, 
2,1- 

ok 

12 

09 

ko 

CDR- 

■IM 

MARK  it.     We  heard  it. 

ok 

12 

09 

k5 

CC 

Roger. 

ok 

12 

09 

51 

CC 

Okay;  looks  good. 

ok 

12 

09 

52 

mp- 

■IM 

Gordy,  there  was  a  slight  upward  -  Gordy,  there 

was  an  upward  fluctuation  in  pressure  in  the 
manifold  when  we  fired  that.    It's  back  to  where 
it  was  prefiring. 

CC  Okay.    That's  what  it  should  have  done.  Jack. 


Tape  73A/3 


04 

12 

10 

24 

IMP- 

■IM 

Okay,  HELIUM  PRESS,  DESCENT  START.  3,2,1- 

04 

12 

10 

29 

LMP- 

-IM 

MAE^K  it.     We  got  it. 

04 

12 

10 

43 

IMP- 

■IM 

Okay  i  looks  good  onboard.     About  2l+0  both  sides 

04 

12 

10 

50 

CC 

Okay;  looks  good  on  the  ground. 

CDR- 

■m 

Say,  Gordy,  this  thing  sounds  a  little  hit  like 

my  stomach  sounded  a  couple  of  days  ago. 

CC 

Roger  there. 

01+ 

12 

11 

2k 

mp- 

■m 

AGS  caning  on  to  STAUDBY. 

Ok 

12 

11 

1+2 

IMP- 

■m 

Okay.     MASTER  ALARM  and  AGS  light. 

ok 

12 

12 

06 

Okay,  10  ...  110:52:00  for  the  time  on  the  AGS. 

04 

12 

12 

-1 1. 
14 

cc 

Roger,  Jack. 

nil 
04 

12 

12 

47 

cc 

Geno »  we  snow  jacK  s  ouii  idujj  vaxve  m  duu 

DISCONNECT,     Should  be  in  SUIT  PLOW.     Would  you 

check  that  for  -  for  us,  please? 

oi+ 

12 

12 

58 

CDR- 

■m 

Yes.     He's  in  SUIT  FLOW  now. 

04 

12 

13 

02 

cc 

Okay.     Thank  you. 

CDR- 

■m 

I'll  tell  you  -  I'll  tell  you,  this  LOG  sure  mai 

a  world  of  difference  up  here. 

cc 

Roger . 

CDR- 

■LM 

Hey,  America;  Challenger. 

CDR- 

•IM 

Hey,  Ron;  listen.     This  ridge  you're  coming  on 

over  -  Just  stick  your  hand  out  the  hatch  and 

grab  a  rock. 

CDE- 

■LM 

Well,  when  you're  up  here  looking  at  where  you 

are ,  it  even  looks  lower . 

Oh 

12 

16 

52 

CC 

Challenger;  Houston.     I  have  a  new  AGS  K  factor 

for  you. 

ok 

12 

16 

58 

UVIP- 

•IM 

Stand  by  a  second. 

Tape  fSA/h 


Oh  12  17  h2    IMP-IM     Go  with  the  K  factor. 

Oh  12  17  hh    CC  Okay;  it's  109 : 59 :59 .9^^-  Over. 

01*  12  17  59    LMP-m      109:59:59. 9l|. 

CC  That's  right. 

CDE-IM      Gordo,  this  is  spectacular.     It  is  absolutely- 
spectacular  looking  at  that  ccamnand  module, 
America,  down  there  coining  across  the  surface. 
We're  Just  tracking  him  at  about  a  30-degree 
dive  angle. 

CC  Sounds  great. 

Oil  12  18  30     CDR-IM      Okay,  babe;  have  a  good  time,  and  go  get  that 

landmark.    Don't  forget  -  No  TEIs.    See  you  in 
about  3  days. 

CC  Geno,  Houston,  with  a  couple  of  items. 

IMP-IW      Go  ahead,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay.     Your  perilune  seems  to  be  -  - 

Oil  12  19  39    CDR-IM      Hey,  we  got  the  landing  site,  Gordo. 
CC  Okay.     I'll  hold  -  - 

CDR-IM     Gordo,  we  got  the  landing  site.    We're  coming 

right  over  the  front  of  it.  Stand  by  a  minute. 
You  can  see  the  Slide.  I  think  you  can  see  the 
Great  Cross. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-IM     We'll  get  a  picture  of  America  coming  right  across 
it. 

CC  All  righty. 

IMP-LM      Super  targeting. 


CDR-IM 


Gosh,  we've  got  Family  Mountain;  we've  got  -  of 
course  -  the  Massif;  we  can.  see  the  Scarp;  we  can 
see  the  light  mantle;  I've  got  the  Great  Cross, 
Camelot,  Sherlock. 


Tape  73 A/ 5 


IMP-IM.      Believe  it  or  not,  Houston,  they're  all  there. 
CC  How  about  that. 

IMP-M      I  see  possible  structure  -  possible  structure  in 

the  upper  part  of  the  South  Massif,  little  bit  east 
of  station  2.    It's  subhorizontal ,  dipping  to  the 
southeast, 

CDR-IM     Houston,  I  can  even  see  Poppy,  right  where  we're 
going  to  set  this  baby  down. 

CC  Very  good. 

CDR-LM      As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  can  see  Rudolph.     I  can 
even  see  the  triangle:     Rudolph,  Frosty,  and 
Punk.    Man,  Gordo,  this  is  absolutely  spectacular. 

CC  Sure  sounds  like  it. 

Oi;  12  21  11    CDR-m      We  can  watch  Ron  track  ~  we  can  watch  Ron  track 

right  on  through  the  landmarks.     I  don't  know  what 
kind  of  results  he  got,  but  he  sure  had  a  nice 
smooth  track  from  here. 

CC  Roger. 

oh  12  21  38    IMP-IM      Gordo,  you  can  go  ahead  and  update  us  with  those 

words . 

OU  12  21  itl    CC  Okay.     Your  perilune  is  shifting  west.     PDI  will 

be  a  little  higher  than  nominal:     10.7  miles  or 
65,000  feet;  should  be  no  problem.     And,  from  the 
time  you  first  came  around  until  we  had  a  solid 
lockup  on  the  steerable  on  this  acquisition  was 
about  3  minutes.    We're  going  to  try  to  speed  that 
up  some  on  the  next  time  around.    We'd  like  you  to 
ji:ist  keep  trying  the  steerable  until  we  come  to 
you  -  and  say,  "stop  trying."  Over, 

OU  12  22  Ih    IMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  understand  that;  and  apparently  this 

time,  had  I  let  it  -  had  I  waited  a  little  longer, 
it  would  have  dropped  to  zero  and  then  come  up, 
because  that's  what  happened  when  I  finally  got 
you,     I'll  give  it  more  time  next  time, 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  T3A/6 


Ok  12  22  38    CC  And,  Jack,  I've  got  lots  of  pads  for  you  whenever 

you're  ready. 

Ok  12  23  37    IMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy;  go  with  the  pads. 

CC  Okay.     The  first  one  is  a  PT6  with  a  CSM  circ. 

IMP-m  Go. 

CC  Okay.    NOUH  33  is  111:57:30.09;  NOUW  8k: 

plus  0070.5,  plus  five  zeros,  and  minus  0000. 5. 
Go  ahead. 

MP-IW      Okay.    111:57:30.09;  plus  0070.5,  plus  all  zeros, 
minus  four  zeros  5. 


CC 


Okay.  Good  readback.  Next  one  I  have  is  the  no 
PDI  pltis  12  abort,  item  Echo. 


IMP-IM      Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,     Echo  is  113:02:00.00;  Foxtrot,  plus  0103. 14, 

plus  five  zeros,  minus  OO5O.O;  NOUW  k2:  0lit2.0, 
plus  OOO5.it,  OllU.9;  bum  time  is  0:1+8;  000, 
272;  373  -  - 

Ok  12  25  kk    CDR-IM      Okay.    Just  a  second.    Give  me  a  transponder,  and 

we'll  start  with  the  radar.     Jack's  tied  up  right 
now. 

CC  373  is  OIB2.O;  AGS  DELTA- Vs :    plus  0103.7,  plus 

five  zeros,  minus  00U9.3;  Golf,  113:57:00.00;  Hotel, 
11  -  Okay,  I'll  start  over.     115:36:^5.00;  and  the 
no  DOI-2  DELTA- V^,  009 6. 6.     Two  remarks:  throttle 

profile  is  10  percent  for  26  seconds,  kO  percent 
for  the  rest  of  the  bum.  Over. 

Oi+  12  27  15    LMP-IW      Okay,  readback.    11  -  no  PDI  plus  12  -  113:02  all 

zeros;  plus  0103.1*,  plus  all  zeros,  minus  OO5O.O; 
OIU2.O,  plus  three  zeros  5.1+,  Oil  It.  9;  0:U8;  all 
zeros,  272;  0182.0;  plus  0103.7,  plus  all  zeros, 
minus  001+9-3;  113:57  all  zeros;  115:36:1+5.00;  OO96.6; 
remarks:    throttle  profile  10  percent  for  26  seconds; 
1+0  percent  for  the  remainder. 


CC 


Okay,  that's  a  good  readback.  Item  India: 
112:1+9:52.35  -  - 


Tape  T3A/T 


CDR-m  Say,  Gordo. 
CC  Go  ahead. 


OU  12  28  21    CDR-IM     Gordo,  Gordo.     Hey,  Gordo;  stand  by.    We  want  to 

finish  the  radar  VHF  test;  and  when  I  go  to  P52, 
you  can  finish  the  PADs . 


CC  Okay . 

Ok  12  28  1+5     CDR-IM      Okay.     We're  in  VHF  RAKGIKG,  and  I've  got  you  on 

radar,  Ron.     We'll  be  q.uiet  for  a  second  and  see 
if  you  can  get  a  lockon. 

CDR-M  Okay. 

Ok  12  29  3k    CDR-IM      Ok^,  Gordo.     The  VHF  ranging  and  radar  checks 

out  very  well. 

CC  Okay,  sounds  good.     Tell  me  when  you're  ready  for 

item  India  again. 

Ok  12  30  02    mP-m     We  cut  you  off,  Ron. 

01+  12  30  10    IMP-m      Go  ahead,  Gordy. 

CC  Okay.     India  is  112:1+9:52.35;  11:01,  plus  0002.2; 

attitude  is  002,  108,  290;  plus  569OO ,  Juliett, 
115:36:1+5.00:    Kilo,  117:35:1+5.00.     Go  ahead. 

IMP-LM      Okay.     It's  a  PDI  pad;  112:1+9:52.35;  11:01, 

plus  three  zeros  2.2;  002,  IO8,  290;  plus  5690O; 
Juliett,  115:36:1+5.00;  Karen,  117:35:1+5.00.  Go 
ahead. 


CC  Okay,  that's  a  good  readhack.     Lima  is  113:ll+:2l+.91; 

Maytro  [?],  119  :3l+:30 .00 ;  and  November  is 
lll+:57:19.09.    And  your  T-2  at  PDI  -  T-2  will  be 
at  PDI  plus  2l+:33. 


LMP-LM  2l+:33? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

mP-IM      Okay,  Linda  is  113:ll+ :2l+,91;  Mary  is  119  :3l+ :30.00  , 
and  Nancy  is  III+ :57  :19 .09 . 


Tape  73A/8 


CC  That's  a  good  readback. 

CC  Okay,  one  thing  left.  Jack,  is  the  SHe  pressures 

on  the  PDI  page. 

mp-m      Go  ahead. 

Ol+  12  33  30    CC  Okay;  at  T.    ,  the  pressure  will  he  1310;  plus 

1  minute »  ll+lO ;  2  minutes,  ikOO;  3  minutes,  1310; 
and  k  minutes,  1230.  Over. 

MP-IM      Okay,  I  got  those.     Thank  you. 

CC  Roger. 

Ok  12  kl  25    CMP-CM      You're  loud  and  clear. 

OU  12  kk  58    IMP-LM      Roger,  America.     Have  a  good  burn.     You  look 

Just  as  pretty  in  earthlight  as  you  do  in  siinli^t. 

CC  We  see  that.    Looks  like  a  good  job. 

Ol+  12  k5  36    LMP-m  Yes,  but  it's  not  an  easy  one,  Gordo. 

mP~m  Go  ahead. 

Ok  12  k6  Ik    LMP-LM  Okay,  RECEIVE  only.    We  got  your  GO,  Gordo? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  torque  them. 

Ok  12  U7  29    CC  Challenger,  we  need  AFT  omni  and  select  the 

steerable  to  SLEW.    Jtod  LOW  bit  rate. 

Ok  12  k8  13    CC  Challenger,  select  FORWARD  omni,  please. 

IMP-IM      Okay,  Gordo,  the  COAS  alignment's  good  and  the 
DAP  is  retracking. 

CC  Okay,  and  like  the  rest  of  the  spacecraft,  the 

platform's  beautiful,  there's  no  drift  compensation 
or  PIPA  bias  update.  Over. 

IMP-m      Beautiful.     It's  ...  like  a  ... 

CC  Roger.     Give  you  one  update,  you  can  write  it  in 

the  Timeline,  page  8;  the  T-1  time  is  PDI  plus  1T:00. 
Over. 


Tape  73A/9 


Olt  12  kg  52    CDR-m      Okay;  T-1  is  PDI  plus  17:00,  we  got  it, 

GC  Roger, 
Ok  12  50  30    MP-LM      Okay,  Hoiiston,  you  got  POO  and  DATA. 

CC  Okay . 

IMP-IM      Gordo,  can  I  start  maneuvering  to  the  AGS  cal  while 
you're  getting  those  updates  -  up-links  ready? 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  the  steeratle  hack  again.  Try 

PITCH  of  miniis  25 ,  and  YAW  of  minus  72 . 

Oi»  12  52  26    mP-m      Okay;  you  got  the  steerable. 

CC  Okay,  we  need  HIGH  bit  rate. 

CC  If  we  start  on  the  up-links  now,  we'll  get  that  in 

before  we  go  to  the  AGS  cal  attitude.  Over. 

LMP-IM      Okay,  Gordo,  I've  got  -  I've  got  the  Earth  and  the 
direction  I  have  to  maneuver  is  nothing  but  good 
for  the  high  gain,  so  I'll  start  over  slowly. 

Ok  12  53  07    CC  Okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  T3B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUIID  VOICE  TI^AIISCRIPTION 

Ok  12  56  28    CMP  Hey,  Challenger;  America.     Are  you  still  with  me? 

Okay;  I  got  something  like,  "yes." 

CMP  Okay,  I  Just  wanted  to  make  sure  on  the  voice 

check  if  we  still  have  the  VHP  problem. 

Ok  12  57  25    CMP  Okay;  loud  and  clear  OMNI,  Jack. 


CMP 


Challenger,  America.     Read  you  loud  and  clear  OMNI, 


OI+  12  57  59     CC  Okay,  America,  we  show  you  inside  of  20  minutes, 

saying  you  have  a  GO  for  circ. 

CMP  Houston,  America.     Roger.    We'll  do  ovir  best. 

Ok  13  00  01    CMP  Okay,  we're  in  burn  attitude,  and  we  don't  have 

any  sextant  star  check  this  time.    And  we're  in 
PkO;  got  a  58  10;  align  the  old  GDC, 

Ok  13  00  3k    CMP  Okay,  GDC  is  aligned. 

Ok  13  01  13     CMP  STAB  CONTROL  and  SPS  breakers  are  CLOSED.  MANUAL 

ATTITUDE  are  RATE  COMMAND. 

Ok  13  01  20     CMP  LIMIT  CYCLE  OFF.     DEAD  BAND,  MIN.      RATE  to  LOW. 

SERVO  POWERS  in  RATE  COMMAND. 

OU  13  01  kl    CMP  Okay,  DELTA-V^^,  is  in  CSM.     GIMBAL  DRIVE  PITCH  and 

YAW  is  in  AUTO.     Standing  by  for  the  bus  ties. 

CC  Hey,  looking  good. 

CMP  Okay. 

Ok  13  06  36    CC  Okay,  America.    About  a  minute  \intil  LOS.  All 

systems  look  good.  We'll  see  you  on  the  other  side 
with  a  good  circ . 

Ol^  13  06  1*7     CMP  Okay.     Mighty  fine. 


Tape  73B/2 

Ol+  13  25  XX  BEGIN  LUHAR  REV  13 

ok  13  55  00    CC  America,  Houston  standing  ty. 

Ok  13  55  09    CMP  Hey,  Houston,    This  is  America.     Good  burn. 

CC  Okay.    Glad  to  hear  it. 

CMP  And  I'll  give  you  some  dope  here.     Okay,  it  was  on 

time.     Burn  time,  as  near  as  I  can  tell,  was 
it  seconds.     V^^  was  69.9.     Okay.     The  trim  angles 

were  357,  89,  and  k  degrees  of  yaw.     Okay,  at  the 
completion  of  the  burn  there,  the  NOUN  85 's. 

IMP-IM      Okay,  Houston.     This  is  Challenger.     How  do  you 
read  . . .  LM  data? 

Ok  13  55  55    CMP  The  NOUN  85 's  were  plus  1.70  and  a  minus  0.6. 

They  are  trimmed  out  to  00  and  a  plus  0.1, 
DELTA- was  minus  10.0. 

LMP-LM      . , . ,  Houston .     How  do  you  read  Challenger? 


CMP 


CC 


And  I  didn't  look  at  that  one  lintil  112  plus  00. 
Oxidizer  was  30.3.     Fuel  was  31.1.     And  unbalance 
was  minus  200.  Over. 


Okay,  that  sounds  good. 
And  -  oh,  P76  was  good  on  the  LM,  too. 
Okay,  sir.    I've  got  your  P2l^  pad. 
CMP  I'm  on  . . ,  three. 

CMP  Okay,  I'd  better  take  it  first. 


CMP 
CC 


CC 


Okay.  I'll  give  you  a  17-1.  112:50:52,  55:^+2, 
57:22,  58:10;  north  02. 


CMP  (Laughter)    Okay,  Ken;  Jack  keeps  talking  every  time 

you  do.     So  maybe  you  can  keep  one  ear  on  them  or 
something.     I  got  T-1  and  112:50:52;  and  I  think 
T-2  was  55:^+2,  and  that's  all  I  got. 


Tape  T3B/3 


CC 


Okay ,  America.  Are  you  ready  to  try  again  on  the 
I>2k  pad? 


CMP  Okay.     Let's  try  it  now. 

CC  Okay.    17-1:     112:50:52,  55:^2,  57:22,  58:10; 

north  02. 

CMP  Okay;  I  copied  that  that  time.     112:50:52,  55:^2, 

57:22,  58:10;  north  02  miles. 

CC  Okay,  that's  correct.    And  you  were  starting  to 

say  something  about  your  RPs  -  target? 

CMP  Yes.     RP-3  is  Just  about  the  limit  of  high  Sun  angle 

that  you  could  take  to  track  that  thing.     I  could 
track  it  up  to  TCA.     And  then,  from  TCA  on  across, 
you  could  hardly  even  tell  there  was  a  crater  there, 
at  all.     It's  just  completely  washed  out. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  keep  that  in  mind  when  they  look  at  it. 

CMP  I  think  we  got  some  good  marks  on  it  anyhow,  though. 

CC  Real  fine. 

Ok  Ik  00  06    CMP  Also,  Houston,  I  lost  the  landmark  at  2k:01  instead 

of  2k:19. 


CC  Okay . 

ok  Ik  01  lU    CC  Okay,  America,    We've  taien  one  last  look  around 

your  bird  and  it's  looking  good.  So  at  least  your 
half  is  GO  for  PDI. 


CMP  Okay,  mighty  fine.    And  I  think  that  chamber  pres- 

sure was  up  around  95.     I  really  couldn't  swear  to 
it.     So  you  might  take  a  look  at  the  read-out  on 
the  playback. 

CC  Okay.    You  got  a  mighty  fast  scamp  ...  to  see  all 

that . 

CMP  (Chuckle)    That's  what  I  say.     I  really  couldn't 

swear  to  it . 


Tape  73B/1+ 

Ok  Ih  06  12    CC  And,  America;  Houston.    We  haven't  watched  you 

load  P2k  yet. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  a  good  point,  I'll  go  ahead  and  get 

01+  Ik  10  Itl    CC  Coming  up  on  T-1. 

CMP  Okay,  Ken.    Thank  you. 

01+  ll+  15  39     CC  Five  seconds  to  T-2 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  fkA/l 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GEOUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 

OU  12  56  01    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     It's  your  computer.  UP 

DATA  LINK,  OFF. 

LMP-LM      Roger . 

LMP-LM      Still  with  you. 

LMP-LM      Say  again,  Ron.     Okay,  I'll  have  to  give  you 
another  one  here  in  a  minute. 

01+  12  57  23    LMP-LM  Okay,  how  do  you  read?    You're  loud  and  clear. 

oh  13  02  18    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    You're  GO  for  DOI-2. 

LMP-LM  Thank  you,  Gordo,    We're  GO  here  for  DOI  2. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  Houston,  did  you  get  the  AGS  cal  numbers? 

CC  Challenger,  that's  affirmative. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  it  all  looks  pretty  good  to  me.     5U6  may 

have  been  a  little  more  than  specs,  but  it  looks 
pretty  good. 

CC  Okay,  looks  good  here. 

CC  Jack,  have  you  gone  through  an  omni?     If  you  have, 

go  LOW  BIT  RATE. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  we  got  you  on  an  omni  and  LOW  BIT,  RA  - 

Olt  13  06  50    CC  Okay. 

Oh  13  56  13    LMP-LM  Hello,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  Challenger? 

CC  Challenger,  you're  loud  and  clear. 

LMP-LM     Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read  Challenger  on 
an  omni  right  now? 

CC  Okay,  Challenger,  you're  loud  and  clear  on  the 

omni.     How  did  it  go? 

LMP-LM      Okay,     The  burn  was  GO.     We're  in  a  T-mile  perigee 
on  the  PGNS,  and  we  had  0,  plus  0.1  and  plus  0.1 
residuals. 


Tape 


CC  Okay,  sounds  good. 

LMP-LM      Ok  -  Okay,  Gordy,  I'm  going  to  try  the  high  gain. 
I  had  you  locked  up  once,  and  then  I  lost  you. 
Let  me  try  it  again. 

CC  We  concur.     Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  that's  my  fault.     I  didn't  know  you 
were  up-linking.     You've  got  the  omni,  and  I'll 
leave  it. 

Oh  13  58  07    CC  Okay,  we'll  stay  on  the  omni  for  the  up-link. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  ED  BATs  are  37.2,  both  batteries. 

The  ascent  battery  on  time  was  112:19:00,  about 
k  minutes  late. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.  Copy. 

CC  Jack,  we  want  BATTERY  3  OFF  for  preconditioning. 

LMP-LM  Roger . 

CC  Challenger,  we'd  like  you  to  verify  that  the  ... 

LMP-LM  And  ve  did  Gordy. 

CC  ...  is  egress . 

LIvlP-LM  That's  verified. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM  And  do  you  have  a  231  update? 

CC  Stand  by.    Negative.     No  change,  Jack. 

LMP-LM  Roger. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Gordo,  how  do  you  read  CDR  on  VOX? 

CC  CDR,  you're  loud  and  clear  on  VOX. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    How  do  you  read  the  LMP  on  VOX? 


Tape  lhk/3, 


CC  Loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Gordo,  up  until  this  time,  the  bird  has 
looked  beautiful  -  perfectly  plain.    All  the 
check's  have  come  out  just  as  advertised, 

CC  Okay,  sounds  good. 

Oh  Ik  00  U8    LMP-LM      And  we're  looking  at  9  minutes  and  5  seconds 

from  PDI. 

CC  Challenger,  do  you  see  a  VERB  33  out  of  DSKY? 

If  you  do,  ENTER  it. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  it's  there,  and  I  will  ENTER. 

CC  Roger. 

IMP-LM      Okay,  it  took;  and  I'm  showing  POO. 
CC  Okay.     lour  computer;  the  up-link's  in. 

Oh  Ih  01  20    LMP-LM      Okay,  we've  got  a  tone  on  the  upvoice  backup. 
CC  Roger. 

Oi+  11+  01  26    CDR-LM      VERB  hi  coming  in  at  you.  Jack.     Okay,  hit  it. 

Okay,  I  got  it.     2l40  -  wait  -  231,  5690O,  that's 
supposed  to  be.     Okay,  569OO  ...  2l+0s  are  the 
same  -  569OO.     Okay?    Okay,  25^+  is  plus  Q\9hh . 
Okay.     Okay,  262  is  minus  OOlUS.     Okay,   UOO  plus  3, 
and  I'll  watch  it. 

LMP-LM      How's  it  look? 


LMP-LM 


It's  -  it's  had  that  all  the  way  along  -  a  little 
bit  of  roll  bias. 


CDR-LM      Okay.     That's  good.     1+00  plus  1. 
LMP-LM      ItOO  plus  1  is  in. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  and  we  do  have  your  needle.    ¥e  do  have 
yoiir  needle. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 


Tape  'Jkk/k 


1 


CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 
01+  Ik  Oh  26  CC 

LMP-LM 


Okay,  and  there's  VERB  83  looking  at  you.  Our 
CROSSPOINTERS  are  LOW  MULT  for  you.  Okay,  and 
there's  VERB  83-     Give  me  a  317  and  a  hhO. 

Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  try  the 
high  gain  once  more.     PITCH  is  minus  -  PITCH  is 
zero  and  YAW  plus  59. 

Are  you  happy  with  this.  Jack?    Let  me  ...  63. 

Yes.     Go  ahead. 

Okay. 

That's  good. 

Gordy,  understand  no  NOIM  68  prior  to  P63  or 
NOUN  69,  right? 

That's  affirmative. 

...  you  need  to  ask  him  anything,  I'll  try  to 
high  gain. 

No.     Go  ahead;  try  it. 
Try  the  high  gain,  Gordy. 
Okay. 

Okay,  it's  locked  up  in  AUTO. 
Roger. 

And,  Gordy,  he  advised  that  you're  clipping  on 
your  first  word. 

Okay,  Jack.     We'd  like  you  to  set  UlO  in  the 
AGS  to  all  balls.    Plus  all  balls. 

That's  4lO,  UlO  not  kOQ.     Check  that  again. 

That's  affirmative;  UlQ. 

Thank  you,  Gordy. 


Tape  lkk/3 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 

Ok  Ik  05  38  LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
Ok  Xk  05  51  CC 

CDR-LM 

CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


You  better  go  "back  and  check  400  now. 

It's  okay.     I  fixed  it. 

Okay. 

Oh,  man,  are  we  down  among  them,  bahe!  Whooh! 

Challenger,  Houston.     I  have  a  PDI  T.  update. 

It's  112:1*9:51.87.  And  NOUN  6l  cross  range  should 
be  a  plus  2.8.  Over. 

Okay.     Say  the  seconds  again  on  the  PDI. 

PDI  seconds  are  51. 87.  Over. 

Okay.    And  the  cross  range? 

Cross  range  is  -  is  a  plus  2.8.  Over. 

Okay,  Gordy.     That  clock  checks  with  -  with  our 
time  out  of  P63. 

The  LANDING  RADAE  breaker's  IN,  I've  got  altitude, 
velocity,  power.     We're  coming  up  on  k  minutes. 

I'll  give  you  the  final  trim  at  k. 

Okay. 

Challenger,  Houston.     You're  GO  for  PDI. 

Oh,  thank  you,  Gordy.     We  are  GO  up  here  for  PDI; 
doing  the  final  trim  at  it. 

Hello,  America.    Do  you  read  Challenger? 

Hey,  Jack,  you  can  check  your  watch. 

Okay. 

At  2  minutes,  I'll  get  the  MASTER  ARM. 
All  right . 


Tape  7UA/6 


CDR-LM      At  30  seconds,  I'll  get  the  ENGINE  ARM;  and  we'll 
watch  the  PGFS  tapemeter  pick  up  average  g.  If 
you  give  me  a  GO  on  the  ullage,  I'll  back  up  the 
ullage . 

LMP-IiM  Okay . 

Ql+  Ik  06  52     CDR-LM  And  I'll  back  up  the  START. 

CC  Challenger,  should  we  lose  the  steerable,   

CDR-LM  You  get  the  steerable. 

CC    go  FORWARD  OMNI. 

CDR-LM  Roger.     FORWARD  OMNI. 

LMP-LM  ...  down  a  little  bit. 

Ok  Ik  07  15     CDR-LM  Okay,  02:1+1. 

Okay,  we  picked  it  all  up.    Power  still  good. 


CDR-LM 


LMP-LM      Okay.     Coming  up  on  2  minutes;  I'm  changing  over 
here. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

01+  11+  07  3k    LMP-LM      MASTER  ARM,  ON  -  2  minutes. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.     2  minutes.    MASTER  ARM  is  ON.  I've 
got  two  good  lights . 

CC  Roger. 

Olf  lit  08  01    LMP-LM      MODE  SELECT  is  PONS. 


CDR-LM 


Okay.     Once  again,  in  average  g,  I'll  get  the 
ENGINE  ARM.    You  confirm  the  ullage,  I'll  get  the 
PRO.     I'll  back  up  the  ullage  and  get  the  START. 


LMP-LM      Roger , 


CC 


Challenger,  we're  going  to  leave  BAT  3,  OFF,   


LMP-LM       ...  AUTO,  AUTO. 


Tape  T^+A/T 


CC 


  until  after  ignition.     We'll  call  you. 


01+  lit  08  56 

Ok  Ik  09  19 

Oi+  111  09  30 
Ok  Ik  09  1*8 

Ok  Ik  09  56 

Ok  Ik  10  01 


LMP-LM      Roger.    Yes,  I  should  have  put  that  on  like  we 


CDR-LM     Man,  I'll  tell  you,  we  are  getting  close. 

LMP-LM      Looking  out  your  window  is  really  strange. 
(Laughter).    From  over  here. 

CDR-LM      One  minute,  Houston,  and  we're  standing  "by.  We're 
.     GO  for  PDI. 

CC  Roger.     You're  looking  good  here. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  approaching  30  seconds.     Blank,  DSKY. 

CDR-LM      DSKY  blank? 

LMP-LM     Average  g.     Got  two  lights. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  ENGINE  ARM  is  DESCENT.     I  think  the  tapemeter 
drove.     I'm  not  sure.     Confirm  the  ullage.  Stand- 
ing by  for  ullage.     Ten  seconds. 

LMP-LM      Fuel  ullage.     We've  got  ullage.     PROCEED  on  the  99. 
It  took.     2,  1,  0  - 

LMP-LM      IGNITION.     IGNITION,  Houston.     Attitude  looks  good. 

LMP-LM      ENGINE  OVERRIDE  is  ON,  MASTER  ARM  is  OFF.     We  got 

a  DESCENT  QUANTITY  light  ON  at  ignition,  just  prior 
to  ignition. 

CDR-LM      DPC  [?]  tank's  good.     RCS  is  good  at  15  seconds. 
CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM      RCS  is  golden.     Should  be  stable  throttle  up. 


talked  about. 


Stand  by  . . . 


CDR-LM 


. ..  Houston.     And  the  computer  likes  it. 


CC 


Roger. 


LMP-LM 


Still  got  the  QUANTITY  light  ON. 


Tape  Ti+A/8 


CDR-LM      Okay,  attitude  looks  good.  Jack. 
LMP-LM      Okay.     At  30  seconds.     Should  have  about  108. 
CDR-LM      Oh,  boy. 

LMP-LM  AGS  and  PONS  are  CLOSED. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  coming  up  on  1  minute. 

LMP-LM  One  minute,  you  ought  to  have  98. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  H-dot  is  high  right  now. 

01+  Ik  10  57    LMP-M  MARK  it,  1  minute. 

CDR-LM  Altitude's  high. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     I  have  a  NOUM  69   

LMP-LM  ...  looks  good,  Houston. 

 pliis  031+00,  plus  3itOO  feet.  Over. 

LMP-LM  You're  looking  at  it. 

01+  11+  11  17    CDR-LM  Okay;  3^00.     I  confirm. 

Challenger,  you're  GO  for  EMTER. 


CC 


LMP-LM      Roger.     GO  for  ENTER  01:30.     We're  GO  coming 

through  5TK.     Okay,  the  altitude's  high  and  the 
H-dot  is  high.     ...  -  that's  right. 

Okay.    At  1  -  2  minutes,  you  ought  to  have  89  on 
the  ball.     We're  still  30  feet  per  second  high  in 
H-dot.     But  we're  about  8000  feet  high   


LMP-LM 


CC  Challenger,  Houston  -  - 
IW-LM   7000   


CC 


We'd  like  you  to  cycle  the  PQGS  switch  OFF  and 
then  back  ON. 


Tape  7^A/9 


CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.     Coming  up  on  2  minutes. 

Ok  Ik  12  01    LMP-LM      Okay.     It's  OFF.     And  it's  back  ON.  QUMTITY 

light  is  out. 

CC  Roger.     That  should  be  good  now. 

LMP-LM      And,  Houston,  ve  -  Okay,  we  have  ENGINE  THRUST  and 
COMMANDED  THRUST,  full-scale  high. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM      Man,  that  looks  good. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  babe,  let's  check  them  at  02:30. 
LMP-LM      RCS  looks  good. 
Ok  Ik  12  27    CDR-LM      02:30,  I'm  about  89  degrees  -  - 
LMP-LM      Cabin  looks  great  -  - 
CDR-LM    coming  through  51  5. 

LMP-LM      89  is  great.     We're  catching  up  -  on  our  altitude. 

We  should  start  dropping  H-dot  here  a  little  bit, 
AGS  and  FNGS  are  together.     AGS  has  us  a  little 
bit  out  of  plane.     And  we're  north  -  has . us  north 
of  track. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston  -  - 

LMP-LM      Houston,  we're  ...  up  on  3  minutes,  we're  GO  and  -  - 
01+  11+  12  ^k    CC  -  -  you're  GO  at  3. 

LMP-LM      --  -  we're  out  of  U9K. 
CDR-LM      Roger.     Understand  we're  GO. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     At  3  minutes.     82 's  your  ball  number.  We're 
still  looking  for  the  right  altitude.     So  H-dot 
is  high. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     The  day  of  reckoning  comes  at  k  minutes.  Jack. 

Got  the  weight  building  up,  looking  good.  Attitudes 
are  good. 


Tape  lkA/10 


LMP-LM     Okay,  at  03:30,  you  ought  to  have  79   

CDR-LM      And  it's  right  on. 


LMP-LM 


We're  still  a  little  high  -  about  2500  feet.  H-dot 
is  still  high.     Okay.     The  tapemeter  moves  in  spurts 
and  jerks,  both  on  altitude  and  altitude  rate. 


CDR-LM  Yes . 

01+  Ik  13  58    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     You're  GO  at  1+  minutes. 

LMP-LM  Yes.     ED  BATs  are  37.2. 

CC  Roger.     ED  BATs. 

LMP-LM  ED  BATs  are  3   

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  Gordo,  yaw's  coming  at  3k0. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM  And  the  radar  lights  are  out.  Beautiful. 

CC  Okay,  sounds  great.     Both  systems  are  GO   

LMP-LM  You're  looking  at  DELTA-H. 

CC    right  on  the  line. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    You're  looking  at  DELTA-H. 

CC  And  you're  GO  for  a  VERB  57. 

Ok  Ik  Ik  3k    LMP-LM  Okay,  VERB  57  is  in.     Hey,  Houston,  is  the  AGS 

out  of  plane  correct? 

CC  Stand  by. 


Okay,  coming  up  on  5  minutes.  Jack.  Let's  take  a 
check  at  it.    About  Ik  degrees. 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM     That's  good 


Tape  TUa/II 


CDR-LM      70  feet  per  second;  we're  coining  down  36  -  you're 
still  . . .  -  - 

Ok  Ik  Ik  56    CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  at  5  minutes  -  - 

CDR-LM    down  at  30   

  the  AGS  out  of  plane  looks  okay  to  us. 


CC 
CDR-LM 

CC 


Okay.  GO  at  5.  We're  out  of  365  now.  We've 
got  the  Earth  right  out  the  front  window. 

Challenger,  Houston.     BATTERY  3,  OK,  at  your 
convenience. 


Oi+  li;  15  23    LMP-LM      BATTERY  3  is  ON. 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


05:30,  Gordo.     We're  GO.     We're  out  of  3kK. 

73,  3^+.  We're  right  on  altitude.  The  H-dot  ought 
to  start  dropping  off. 


CDR-LM      Except  that  we  want  to  keep  it  high.     We're  allowed 
two  quick  looks  out  the  window,  one  now  and  one 
when  we  pitch  over. 

LMP-LM      I  can't  see  a  thing  except  the  Earth. 

CDR-LM      That's  what  I'm  telling  you  to  look  at. 

LMP-LM      (Laughter)     Ok,  there's  the  old  Earth.  Okay, 
Houston,  coming  up  on  6  minutes.     Six  minutes, 
you  ought  to  have  72  on  your  "ball. 

Oi*  Ik  15  56    CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  at  6, 

CDR-LM      72  and  GO. 


LMP-LM 


31.     Altitude's  great.     H-dot 's  great.     AGS  and 
PNGS  are  very  close,  couple  feet  per  second 
difference. 


CDR-D4  Okay. 


Tape  lkk/12 


Oh  Ok  16  10    LMP-m      Okay,  Houston.     We  went  over  the  hump.  DELTA-H 

Just  jumped, 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM      And  looks  like  it's  back  down. 
Roger.     Sounds  good. 


CC 


LMP-LM      06:30,  Geno.     It  looks  good,  babe.     T2.  Altitude 
is  right  on.    H-dot  is  very  close. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  30K,  YAW  to  zero. 


CC 


Throttle  down  time,  7  plus  26, 


LMP-LM      7  plus  26. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  we  got  everything  -  We're  YAW  at  zero. 

04  Ik  16  56    LMP-LM      Okay.     At  7  minutes,  67 's  your  angle,  26  -  27- 

that ' s  great  ...  -  -  '  ' 

OU  lU  16  59    CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  at  7. 

LMP-LM      -  -  H-dot 's  slightly  high,  but  okay. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  Gordo.    We're  GO  at  7,  we're  now  at 

25,000  feet.  We're  quite  a  bit  out  of  the  com- 
mand module  plane,  but  I  guess  we're  on  target. 
Okay,  watch  the  throttle,  now.     Here  it  comes. 

LMP/CDR-  Throttle  down  - 
LM 

Qh  Ik  17  22    LMP-LM      -  at  27;  computer  likes  it.  Beautiful. 
CC  Roger. 

01.  lU  17  29  CDR-m  Okay,  07:30,  63.  Okay,  1^5  to  pitchover.  Jack. 
Oil  111  17  3k    LMP-LM      Okay.  63's  your  angle,  about  56  now. 


Tape  lkk/13 


CDR-LM      Okay,  that's  getting  closer. 

LMP-LM      H-dot  and  H  are  great.     Standing  by  for  the  camera. 

CDR-LM      19K,  Houston.     We're  GO  coming  up  on  8. 

Ok  Jk  IT  55    LMP-LM  Okay.     The  old  camera's  on,  Gordy.  Believe 

it  or  not. 

Oi+  Ih  IT  58    CC  Hov  about  that.    You're  GO  at  8.    Monitor  fuel,  2. 

LMP-LM  Fuel  2,  2T.     That's  good. 

CDR-LM  Come  on,  haby. 

Oil  Ik  18  13    LMP-LM  Okay,  at  08:30,  Gene. 

Ok  lit  18  IT    CDR-LM  Okay,  I  got  the  South  Massif. 

OU  lit  18  21    LMP-LM  Okay,  update  the  AGS,  Houston?  ... 

CDR-LM  Yes. 

CC  That's  affirmative;  update  the  AGS. 

Ok  Ik  18  35    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo,  I've  got  Nansen ;  I've  got  Lara; 

and  I've  got  the  Scarp.    Oh,  man,  we're  level 
with  the  top  of  the  Massifs,  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  151  -  1510  ENTER.     Okay,  Jack,  -  - 

01+  Ik  18  53    CC  Challenger.     You're  GO  at  9. 

CDR-LM    pitchover  is  at  24;  2k  is  pitchover. 

Ok  Ik  18  58    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordo,  we're  out  of  11,000  at  9.  Okay, 

stand  by  for  pitchover.     Oh,  are  we  coming  in. 
Oh,  baby. 

04  Ik  19  11    LMP-LM      ...  through  9000. 

Ok  14  19  12    CDR-LM      Stand  by  for  pitchover.  Jack. 


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Oh  Ih  19  Ik    LMP-LM  8000. 

Oi+  li+  19  15    CDR-LM  I'll  need  the  PRO. 

LMP-LM  I'll  give  it  to  you. 

Ok  Ik  19  18    CDR-LM  Pitchover. 

Ok  Ik  19  19    LMP-LM  There  it  is!  PROCEEDed. 

Ok  Ik  19  21    CDR-LM  And  there  it  is,  Houston.    There's  Cajnelot!  Wow! 

Right  on  target, 

LMP-LM      I  see  it. 

CDR-LM      We  got  them  all. 

Oi+  14  19  26    LMP-IM      Forty-tvo  degrees,  37  degrees  through  5500, 

38  degrees  -  - 

01+  14  19  32    CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  for  landing. 

04  14  19  34    LMP-LM      -  -  5000  feet,  4o  -  42  degrees  through  4000,  47  now; 

47  degrees  through  3500;  49  degrees;  3000  feet, 

53  degrees . 

04  14  19  54    CDR-LM      Okay,  I've  got  Barjea;  I've  got  Poppy;  I've  got 

the  triangle. 

04  14  19  59    LMP-LM      At  2500  feet,  52  degrees.     The  H-dot  is  good.  At 

2000,  H-dot  is  good.     Fuel  is  good.     1500  feet, 

54  degrees.  Gene.    Approaching  1000,  approaching 
1000  feet,  57  degrees.     Okay,  you're  through  1000, 
and  I'm  checking  -  radar  altitude  and  PNGS 
altitudes  agree.     You're  through  800  feet.     H-dot 's 
a  little  high. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  I  don't  need  the  numbers  any  more. 

04  14  20  32    LMP-IM      Okay,  you're  31  feet  per  second,  going  down 

through  500;  25  feet  per  second  through  400. 
That's  a  little  high,  Geno. 


CDR-LM 


Okay. 


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Ok  Ik  20  1+2    LMP-LM      300  feet,  15  feet  per  second.     A  little  high. 

H-dot's  a  little  high. 

Ok  Ik  20  51    CDR-LM      Okay.     I've  got  P66. 

01+  lit  20  55    LMP-LM      Okay;  9.  feet  per  second,  down  at  200.     Going  down 

at. 5.     Going  down  at  5,     Going  down  at  10.  Cut 
the  H-dot.     The  fuel's  good.     110  feet.     Stand  by 
for  some  dust.    Little  forward.  Gene. 

CDR-LM 

0l+  ll+  21  15    LMP-LM     Move  her  forward  a  little.    90  feet.  Little 

forward  velocity.     80  feet,  going  down  at  3. 
Getting  a  little  dust.     We're  at  k  -  60  feet, 
going  down  ahout  2.    Very  little  dust.  Very 
little  dust,  1+0  feet,  going  down  at  3. 

01+  11+  21  1+2    CDR-LM      Stand  by  for  touchdown. 

01+  11+  21  1+3    LMP-LM      Stand  by.     25  feet,  down  at  2.     Fuel's  good. 

20  feet.     Going  down  at  2.     10  feet.     10  feet  - 

01+  11+  21  58    LMP-LM  CONTACT. 

01+  ll+  22  03    LMP-LM      ***  op,  push.     Engine  stop;  ENGINE  ARM;  PROCEED; 

COMMAND  override,  OFF;  MODE  CONTROL,  ATT  HOLD; 
PGNS,  AUTO. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  TUB/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAMSCRIPTIOH 

Ol+  ik  22  56    CMP  Hey,  Challenger;  this  is  America.     I  heard  you  all 

the  way  down .     That ' s  great .     Beaut  i  ful . 

Oi+  lit  26  21    CC  And,  America;  we  have  a  STAY  for  T-1. 

CMP  Challenger  -  understand  a  STAY  for  T-1.  Good. 

ok  ih  31  17    CC  And,  America,  I  have  a  pan  camera  photo  pad  whenever 

you're  ready  for  it.     It'll  go  on  page  129. 

Ok  Ik  33  33    CC  America,  Houston.     The  LM  has  a  STAY  for  T-2, 

CMP  Hey,  okay.     Great,    STAY  for  T-2.  Beautiful. 

CC  Okay,  and  I   

CMP  Looks  like  they  hit  the  right  spot? 

CC  Yes.     They  must  he  right  in  there.     And  I  got  your 

pan  camera  photo  pad,  whenever  you're  ready  for  it 
on  129.     That's  page  129-     Excuse  me. 


CMP 

Okay . 

Just  a  second. 

CMP 

Okay. 

Ready  to  copy . 

Ok  Ik  3k  19 

CC 

Okay. 

T-start:     lli+:03:ll;  T-stop:  llU:33:l8. 

CMP 

Okay. 

T-start:     114:03:11;  stop:  llU:33:l8. 

CC 

Okay, 

That's  correct. 

Ok  Ik  35  08 

CC 

And, 

America,  we're  ready  for  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  . 

OU  lli  35  15 

CMP 

Okay. 

You  have  it . 

OU  Ik  37  05 

CMP 

Yes. 

It ' s  a  good  thing  it ' s  in  the  sextant  he- 

cause  you  can't  see  it  in  the  telescope.  The 
Earth  is  in  the  field  of  view. 

CC  Are  you  able  to  get  something  in  the  sextant ,  or 

would  you  like  for  us  to  look  for  some  new  stars 
and  attitudes? 


Tape  jkB/2 


CMP  No.     You  can  see  them  in  the  sextant  real  well.  Ken, 

You  just  can't  see  them  in  the  telescope. 


CC 


CC 
CMP 


CC 

CMP 

CC 

CMP 


Okay.  That's  a  mighty  pretty  thing  to  look  at  in 
the  telescope,  though,  isn't  it? 


CMP  Yes,  it  sure  is. 


CMP  You  know,  I  noticed  there's  even  a  lot  of  difference 

in  earthshine  and  -  and  in  the  double  umhra.  You 
get  in  earthshine  on  the  thing ,  and  it ' s  -  it ' s 
hard  to  see  the  stars  even  if  you  don't  have  the 
Earth  in  there . 

Yes.     That  -  that  makes  a  surprising  difference. 

The  double  umbra  on  the  back  side  of  the  Moon  - 
Yes.     The  double  umbra  on  the  back  side  of  the 
Moon  is  even  better  than  the  simulator  (laughter).' 

Oh  Ik  39  36    CMP  Okay.     If  those  look  good  to  you,  I'll  torque  at  20. 

CC  Okay.     That  looks  good. 

Ok  Ik  1+5  18    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  America.     I  think  I'll  go 

ahead  and  use  a  shaft,  200.12,  and  a  57.1+TO. 

CC  Okay.     We  copied  that. 

CMP  That's  for  the  COAS  cal. 


All  righty.  That  thing  flies  a  little  better  than 
the  simulator  on  that,  doesn't  it? 

Yes.  It  sure  does.  It's  outstanding,  as  a  matter 
of  fact.    You  can  even  see  the  star  out  here. 

Yes,  it's  a  rather  wondrous  thing.     When  you  get 
aj^ound  to  it,  I've  got  a  HYDROGEN  tank  1  call, 
I'd  like  to  have  you  turn  that  to  OFF. 

Okay.     Let  me  get  started  here  in  the  P20  attitude. 


CC  Sure  thing. 

Oil  Ik  kQ  01    CMP  Okay.     GO  on  the        .  .  .  TANKS. 


Tape  7k-B/3 


CC  Okay.,  That's  HYDROGEN  tank  number  1  shoiild  be 

turned  OFF. 

OU  ll*  U8  26    CMP  Okay.         FAMS,  number  1,  OFF. 

CC  Okay.     And  I  missed  seeing  you  set  the  VEBB  kh . 

Did  you  get  that  one  in? 

CMP  Yes.     I  did  it  while  I  was  doing  the  P52  for 

pericynthion.     I'll  do  it  again. 

Ok  Ik  U8  56    CC  Okay.     It's  all  -  it  looks  good,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 

01+  lit  kg  12    CMP  And  RENDEZVOUS  TRANSPONDER  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

Ol*  111  50  28    CMP  Okay.    PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  coming  OFF. 

CC  All  right. 

OI+  II4  50  kl'   CMP  And  the  VHF  is  OFF  to  RECEIVE  ONLY  -  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay .     And  Olso ' s  [ ? ]  standing  here  with  baited 

breath . 

CMP  He's  ready  to  go  to  work,  isn't  he? 

CC  Yes.    He's  chomping  at  the  bit. 

Ol*  lU  51  07    CMP  Okay.     We're  in  DEPLOY/RETRACT.     Circuit  breakers 

are  IN. 

Ok  Ik  51  11    CMP  SM/AC  POWER'S  ON,  and  those  circuit  breakers  are 

IN.     So  181 's  squared  away. 

Ql*  Ik  51  27  CMP  Okay.     DATA  SYSTEM  is  going  ON. 

.  CC  Okay. 

01+  Ik  51  33  CMP  IE  is  going  ON. 

OI+  lit  51  37  CMP  UV  is  going  ON.    Okay.    Let's  open  a  few  covers. 

Ok  ik  52  08    CMP  Okay,     MAPPING  CAMERA.     LASER  ALTIMETER.  Barber 

,   pole;,  and  then  a  gray. 


Tape  jkB/k 


Ok  Ih  32  18    CMP  IR;  "barber  pole,  and  a  gray. 

Oi+  Ih  52  26    CMP  UV  COVER;  barber  pole,  and  a  gray.    And  we'll  try 

timing  the  old  mapping  camera.     See  how  she  does 
this  time. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  I'll  watch  it.     Okay,     3,  2,  1  - 

01+  II+  52  50    CMP  MARK  it. 

OU  Ik  52  52    CC  Okay.     Got  my  clock  running. 

CMP  Okay. 

Ok  Ik  55  01    CMP  Still  barber  pole. 

CC  Yes.    We're  commenting  on  the  same  thing.  We 

don't  have  any  data  yet,  but  ...  -  - 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CMP  Hey,  it  went  gray. 

Ol*  lit  56  10    CMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

CMP  About  3  minutes  and  20  seconds,  wasn't  it? 

CC  Yes,  sir.    03:21.    Okay,  Ron.    And  before  we  get 

started  this  morning,  we  skipped  the  Lithiian  canir.ter, 
and  that  was  back  at  IO8  hours  and  10  minutes  on 
page  3-109 .    So,  at  your  convenience,  you  might 
want  to  catch  up  on  that  one. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.     Do  you  have  it  handy  there? 

What  it  is?    Which  one? 

CC  Yes.     Just  a  second.     I'll  read  it  to  you. 

CMP  Can  you  just  tell  me? 

Ok  Ik  57  00    CC  Okay.    We  wanted  to  take  11  into  A,  and  stow  num- 

ber 9»  which  you're  going  to  take  out,  into  A-9. 

CMP  Into  A-9.    Okay.    That  must  be  where  11  is  then. 


Tape 


CC  Eleven  should  ,13 e  , in  -  Yes,  okay.    Get  all  of  you 

in  A-9  now,  hopef\illy. 

CMP  (Whistling) 

Ok  15  01  01    CMP  Okay.     "Ch^  old  lithiim  hydroxide  canister's  changed. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

CMP  And,  Ken,  can  you  give  me  a  hack  on  Houston  time 

there?     Or  Greenwich  mean  time  or  something  so  I 
can  set  my  watch? 

Oh  15  02  l6    CC  Okay.     I'll  give  you  Houston  time.  It's 

lU:35:21  -  2-  3-  ^t-5. 

CMP  Okay.     Mighty  fine.     Thank  you. 

Ok  15  03  25    CC  Okay,  America.    We're  ahout  3  minutes  from  LOS. 

All  systems  look  good.    And  G&C  has  noticed  that 
you've  got  the  OPTICS  not  in  ZERO,  and  next  time 
you're  down  that  way,  it  would  make  everybody  feel 
"better  if  you'd  put  it  there.     It's  not  -  not  some- 
thing that  you  have  to  do  right  away. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    Will  do.     Good  way  to  keep  me 

honest . 

oh  15  03  58    CC  And  a  ...  to  that. 

Olt  15  2l+  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  ih 

Oh  15  52  15    CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Do-de-do-do.    Looks  like  we're  about  to  acquire. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  33:l8  is  stop  time.    No,  no.    That's  better  than 

having  a  trail.    Let's  try  It.     Cantaro  [?]. 
Wtioops.     Good  work.    There  it  goes.     Just  about 
to  make  it. 


Oh  15  53  22  CMP 


MAP  CAMERA  is  STANDBY. 


Tape  ThB/6 

Oh  15  53  37    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  reading  you. 

OUl5  53^U    CMP  Okay.    Just  about  have  you,  Houston  - 

END  OF  TAPE 


How  us? 


Tape  T5A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ok  Ik  22  11    CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.     The  Challenger  has  landed! 

CC  Roger,  Challenger .     That's  super. 

LKP-LM      Okay,  Parker  valves  -  Bqy,  you  bet  it  is,  Gordo. 

CDR-LM      Boy,  when  you  said  shut  down,  I  shut  down  and  we 
dropped,  didn't  we? 

LMP-LM      Yes,  sir.    But  we  is  here;  man,  is  we  here.  How 
does  that  look? 

CDR-LM      That  looks  good. 

0^+  Ik  22  35    LMP-LM      Pressure  -  pressures  look  great.     Tank  2  is  down 

just  a  little  from  before. 

Oil  lU  22  UO    CDR-LM      The  ENGINE  OVERRIDE  is  OFF  ...  

Ok  Ik  22  kl    LMP-LM     Manifold  is  great.    Manifold  is  right  on.     Get  - 

go  to  JETS. 

01+  ll+  22  kk    CDR-LM      Okay.     I  am  JETS. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     That  side's  complete.     Houston,  you  can 

tell  America  that  Challenger  is  at  Taiunis-Littrow. 

CC  We'll  do  it. 

CDR-LM      Ron,  I  had  the  meatball  all  the  way.     Jack,  are 

we  going  to  have  some  nice  boulders  in  this  area. 

0!+  Ik  23  08    LMP-LM      Okay.     The  old  camera's  off, 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

Ok  Ik  23  12    LMP-LM      LANDING  RADAR  breaker,  OPEN.     Checking  the  water. 

.And,  Gordy,  ascent  tank  1,  we  started  out  a  little 
low.     It's  still  -  same  place.     That's  water. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 


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Oh  Ik  23  28    LMP-LM  Batteries  look  good. 

CDR-LM  Oh,  man.     Look  at  that  rock  out  there. 

LMP-LM  Absolutely  incredible.     Absolutely  incredible. 

CDR-LM  I  think  I  can  see  the  rim  of  Camelot. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM  Epic  moment  of  ray  life. 

LMP-LM  Where 'd  you  land?    You  never  let  me  look  outside 
at  all.    Hey,  you  can  see  the  boulder  tracks. 

Oh  Ih  23  58    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.    We're  standing  by  for  your  GO.  We 

look  good.     We're  looking  good  on  board. 


CC 


Okay.    You're  looking  great  here  so  far. 


LMP-LM      There  are  boulders  all  over  those  massifs.  Gosh, 
look  at  that  propellant.     We  could  have  gone  all 
around  and  looked  around. 

CDR-LM      We  should  have  hovered  aromd  a  little  bit;  gone 
and  looked  at  the  Scarp. 

U-IP-LM     No,  thank  you. 

CDR-LM  (Laughter) 

LMP-LM      I  like  it  right  where  we  are. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  Gordy.    While  you're  -  while  you're  waiting 
on  that  GO,  I  had  to  -  I  -  I  shot  for  a  spot, 
around  2  o'clock  from  Poppy.     There's  a  number  of 
boulders  out  at  12  o'clock  from  Poppy,  and  I 
really  think  I'm  probably  not  more  than  about 
100  meters  out  in  front  of  it  -  and  slightly  to 
the  north.    Actually,  I  may  be  a  little  bit  closer 
to  Trident  than  I  expected  Poppy  to  be.     I  -  I 
think  I've  got  Trident  right  out  the  left  window. 
And  our  first  cut  at  the  mobility  around  here  in 
the  Rover.     It  ought  to  be  super. 


Tape  T5A/3 


CC  Okay.     Sounds  good. 

IMP-UA      But  I  tell  you,  the  massifs  and  Bare  Mountain  are 
two  different  products. 

CDR-LM     Do  look  it,  don't  they? 

LMP-LI-l     Of  course,  they're  different  slopes,  too. 

CDR-M      I  think  you're  looking  -  probably  -  that  may  be 
Rudolph,  right  there.  Jack,  out  your  window.  I 
was  looking  more  at  those  boulders  and  trying  to 
stay  in  the  spots  in  between  them  than  I  was  -  - 

LMP-LM      Yes,  you  did  great.  Gene. 

CDR-LM      -  -  relationship  to  that  crater.     Man,  there  was 

practically  no  dust,  just  a  little  bit  of  a  film; 

you  had  the  ground,  all  the  way  to  the  ground. 

LMP-LM      Yes.     I  could  call  touchdcFwn  on  the  shadow.  Look 
at  that.     Really  here. 

Ok  Ik  25  hk    CDR-LM      (Laughter)    Okay,  Gordy,    We're  hanging  in  for 

your  GO. 

LMP-LM      It  better  be  a  GO.     I'll  check  everything  again. 
Let's  just  doublecheck. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

LMP-LM      That  hasn't  changed. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  that's  good. 

OU  Ik  25  55    LMP-LM      Those  -  the  manifold  hasn't  changed.     The  RCS 

hasn't  changed.     Ascent  water  hasn't  changed. 
The  batteries  haven't  changed. 

CDR-LM      Oh,  my  golly. 


LMP-LM 


Only  we  have  changed. 


Tape  T5A/i| 


CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
Oh  Ik  26  16  CC 

LMP-LM 

Oii  Ik  26  23  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

Ok  Ik  26  37  LMP-LM 

Ok  Ik  26  k2  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Olt  Ik  27  02  CDR-LM 

Ok  Ik  27  09  CC 

OU  Ik  27  11  LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


You  knew  the  -  you  can't  see  into  Camelot,  Jack; 
that  rim  is  -  is  Camelot  out  in  front  of  us. 

Yes. 

You  ...  -  - 

Challenger,  you'll  be  glad  to  hear  you're  STAY 
for  T-1. 

Gordy,  you're  a  smooth  talker,  you  know  it? 
Very  good. 

We  are  STAY  for  T-1. 

Okay.     You  can  forget  all  I  told  you  about 
VERB  22  NOUN  1+6. 

What  was  that?  (Laughter) 

Okay.  Let's  find  out  where  we  are.  Engine  stop 
is  reset. 

Okay.     The  AGS  is  ready  for  us  if  we  need  it. 

Okay.     I  need  a  P12  time  as  soon  as  I  get  60   

Okay. 

Okay,  Gordy.     You're  looking  at  KOTJW  1|3.  Copy 
that  down.  Jack,  right  here. 

Okay.    We've  got  it. 

20  21  and  20  21  and  30  75,  and  I'm  going  to  P12. 
Okay.     I  need  a  P12  time  from  you. 

Okay.    For  T-2.    For  T-2,  the  time  is  113  -  - 

Okay. 

lU  -  - 

11.. 


Tape  T5A/5 


CDR-LM  2U.91. 
CDR-LM      Yes,  sir. 

LMP-LM      I  can't  feel  any  difference  between  l/6g  and 
anything  else  right  now. 

CDR-LM      Well,  you  still  got  your  restraints  on.  (Laughter) 
Okay.     113:  ll+:2U.91.     You  happy  with  that? 

LMP-LM      That  looks  good,  sir. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      I  got  to  change  these  numbers.     You  didn't  get  an 
update  on  NOUN  76,  did  you?    I  don't  think  so. 


CDR-LM      No.  No. 
LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      No.     Okay;  5515.     Hello,  Gordy.     How  would  you 
like  me  to  handle  R-3  of  NOUN  76? 

Ok  Ik  28  26    CC  stand  by.     I'll  come  back  to  you. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Oh,  that  radar  performed  super. 

LMP-LM     How  was  the  view  on  the  way  down.  Gene?  (Laughter) 

CDR-LM      You  know,  after  we  pitched  over,  I  was  just  looking 
for  a  place  to  land.     I'm  not  sure,     I  just  didn't 
want  to  hit  one  of  those  boulders  out  there  which 
would  have  been  as  easy  -  and  look  at  that.  Look 
at  right  in  front  of  us .    I  didn't  want  to  land 
there  either. 

LMP-LM      I  see  that  one  right  in  front  of  us. 

CDR-LM      You  see  that?     ...  a  boulder,  a  hole, 

LMP-LM      Where's  the  hole?    I  can't  see  the  hole   


Tape  T5A/6 


OU  lU  28  58    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    R-3,  cross  range,  is 

okay  as  is. 


LMP-LM 


Okay.    Okay.    We're  coming  up   

Ok  Ik  29  11    CDR-LM     We're  in  posture  for  a  T-2,  Gordy. 
CC       ■  Roger. 


CDR-LM 


Okay.    I  can  see  the  Scarp.    I  can  see  Hanover. 
Good  thing  ve  didn't  plan  to  go  to  Hanover. 
(Laughter)     It's  steep. 


LMP-LM  Look  at  the  boulder  -  halfway  up  the  hill. 
CDR-LM      Yes . 

LMP-LM      Not  halfway,  just  enough   


CDR-LM 


Yes,  the  boulder  tracks  -  they're  beautiful. 


LMP  LM      It's  sitting  right  there  in  the  end  of  the  tracks. 

There  are  tracks  all  over  that  hillside.  There's 
a  boulder  came  right  down  to  the  surface  there. 
See  it? 


CDR-LM      Yes . 

LMP-LM      That  one  right  through  that  little  crater  - 
CDR-LM  Yes. 

LMP-LM      -  -  sitting  right  there  for  us  to  sample.  Look 
at  it. 

CDR-LM     Yes,  sir.     I'll  bet  Bare  Mountain  and  the  Sculptured 
Hills  are  the  same. 

LMP-LM      Yes.     They  -  Well,  the  slope's  different.  We'll 

have  to  look  at  it  from  outside.    You  may  be  right. 
How  I  see  why  they  call  them  sciaptured.     My  gosh, 
they're  so  hummocky  that  there's  shadow  all  over 
them. 


CDR-LM 


Yes. 


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LMP-LM      Gosh,  there  are  some  holes  and  rocks  aroiand  here. 
Who  told  me  this  was  a  flat  landing  site? 

CDR-LM      It  is  flat.     For  crying  out  loud.     What  do  you 
want,  an  airtight  guarantee? 

Ok  Ih  30  ik    LMP-LM      Let's  see,  we  got  about  2  degrees  left  and  about 

5  degrees  pitchup. 

CDR-LM      We're  about  what  -  about  100  meters  from  Trident? 

LMP-LM      Yes  -  yes,  less  than  that,  I  think  Trident's 

right  here.    Our  shadow's  about  ICQ  feet,  Geno, 
I  think. 

CDR-LM     Yes,  we're  only  about  -  yes,  less  than  100  meters 
then.    It  doesn't  look  that  long,  but  it  ...   

LMP-LM     Yes,  there  are  some  holes  I'm  glad  I  didn't  land 
in  around  here,  I'll  tell  you. 

CDR-LM      Now,  if  you  look  at  the  massif.  Jack.     I  don't 

know  if  you  can  see  it  over  here.     You  see,  they're 
almost  like  a  series  of  linear  boulder  tracks,  but 
they  come  crossways  down  the  slope.     So  it  looks 
like  there  may  very  definitely  be  some  -  some 
Jointed  -  There's  outcrop  on  top  the  massif,  too. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  it  sure  looks  like  it,  gray  outcrop.  And 

there's  a  bluish  gray  compared  to  the  -  the  brown 
or  tan  gray  of  the  massif  side. 

CDR-LM      And  a  lot  of  that  boulder  is  -  a  lot  of  that  out- 
crop down  on  the  bottom  is  boulder. 

LMP-LM      Yes,    Do  you  know  what  that  reminds  me  of,  way  up 
on  top  -  that  outcrop?    It  reminds  me  of  sunset 
where  you  cotad  Just  get  a  little  piece  of  outcrop 
around  the  comer. 

CDR-LM      That's  right. 


Ok  Ik  31  25  LMP-LM 


Okay.  Let's  see  what  we're  doing.  We  got  3  min- 
utes for  T-2.     Let's  take  another  check. 


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CDR-LM     Okay.    I  Just  looked  at  them. 

LMP-LM     Okay.    Ascent  looks  good. 

Ok  ik  31  36    CDR-LM     Gordy,  I  noticed  something  ever  since  we've  landed. 

The  oxidizer  quantity  went  from  -  from  7  or  8, 
and  now  it's  down  to  2,  and  the  fuel  has  stayed 
constant. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-UVI     And  the  QUANTITY  light  came  on  somewhere,  I 
believe,  after  we  landed. 

LMP-LM     Yes,  it  did.    1  noticed  the  QUANTITY  light  also. 

I  was  thinking  reg  light,  though,  when  I  saw  it. 
Oh ,  man . 


CC 


CDR-LM 


Challenger,  we'll  have  a  story  on  that  for  you 
later.    We  don't  think  we  were  really  low  level. 

Okay.  It  doesn't  make  any  difference  now,  Gordy, 
expect  to  talk  about  when  we  get  home. 


CC  Roger. 

Oh  Ik  32  27    CDR-LM      And  we're  2  minutes  and  counting  to  T-2. 
CC  Roger. 


LMP-LM 


We  better  hurry  if  -  you're  going  to  give  -  they're 
going  to  give  us  the  GO. 


LMP-LM     How  about  some  water? 
CDR-LM      Yes,  you  can  zap  me. 

LMP-LM  Oh,  I  tell  you.  That's  something  eveiyone's  got 
to  do  once  in  their  life.  I  want  to  -  We're  not 
going  to  have  much  time  for  T-2  -  - 

01+  11*  33  18    CC  Challenger,  Houston,     You're  STAY  for  T-2,  and  GO 

for  the  DPS  vent. 


LMP-LM 


Okay. 


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CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ok  Ik  33  h6  CDR-LM 
Olt  Ik  3h  kl  CDR-LM 
CO 

Ok  Ik  3U  U5  CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 

Ok  Ik  35  01  CDR-LM 
CC 

ok  Ik  35  11  CDR-LM 
Oh  Ik  35  IT  LMP-LM 

OU  Ik  35  28  CDR-LM 
Oi+  lU  35  36  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 


Okay.     Understand.     STAY  for  T-2,  and  GO  for  the 
DPS  vent.     Let  me  get  out  of  -  Okay,  we  can't 
hack  that.     I'm  going  to  get  out  at  12. 

Excuse  me.  Gene. 

Okay.     You  can  unzap  that  water,  if  you'd  like. 
And  let's  go  off  VOX.     Let's  go  on  PTT. 

Okay.     REG  1  is  CLOSED,  Houston;  OXIDIZER  FUEL 
VENTS  coming  OPEN. 

Roger. 

MASTER  ARM,  ON.    MASTER  ARM's  coming  ON.  Okay, 
Gordo.     I  got  two  good  lights. 

Roger. 

DESCENT  VENT,  FIRE.     Okay  - 

MARK  it.     Now  we  did  not  hear  anything  on  that 
one ,  Gordy . 

Roger. 

...  pressiire's  coming  down,  though.  Pressure's 
coming  down. 

Okay.     MASTER  ARM,  OFF.     Okay.     We'll  monitor 
oxidizer  pressure  until  20  to  UO,  and  then  OX  VENT, 
CLOSED;  fuel  pressure  to  less  than  8.     FUEL  VENT. 

DESCENT  QUANTITY  light  -  REG  light.    Excuse  me. 

Okay.     MODE  CONTROL,  two  to  ATT  HOLD.     Well,  we 
just  keep  going,  I  guess. 

Yes.     Hey,  we  can  press  on.     Okay.     Okay.  Now 
wait  a  minute.     Here  we  go.     Let's  get  that.  Go 
up  here  first,  because  I  haven't  selected  it. 


01+  lU  36  03    LMP-LM      Okay,     ECA  CONTROL  is  CLOSED.     Three  is  back  on. 


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Ok  Ik  36  11    LMP-LM     BATTERY  5  is  OFF/RESET,  and  it's  off  the  line. 

Ok  Ik  36  18    LMP-LM      BATTERY  6,  OFF/RESET,  and  it's  off  the  line. 

INVERTER  ntJinber  2  breaker  is  IN.     INVERTER  2. 
Let  me  check  the  voltage.    Voltage  is  great. 
Okay.     Keep  going. 

Cli  ll+  36  kl    LMP-U^      DESCENT  ENGINE  OVERRIDE 's  OPEN.     ASCENT  ECA 

CONTROL'S  OPEN.     CWEA  cycling,  cycled;  both 
lights  are  out.     Okay.     Cabin  pressure  is  good. 
Okay. 

Ok  Ik  37  Ol+    LMP-LM      And  then,  A  and  B  going  to  CABIN.     A  is  to  CABIN. 

B  is  to  CABIN.     PULL-EGRESS.     RETURN  is  EGRESS. 
REPRESS  going  to  AUTO.     Stand  by  for  a  noise. 

Ok  Ik  37  29    LMP-m      There  you  go.     It's  in  AUTO.     Okay.    Now  it's 

yoTir  turn.     Verify  -  Wonder  where  it's  going? 
(Laughter)     Out,  I  guess. 

OU  Ih  37  51    LMP-m      INVERTER  2  is  selected.     Okay.     And  DECA  POWER, 

OPEN.     And  guess  what?    Take  your  helmet  and 
gloves  off. 

OU  lit  38  59    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.    We're  in  1-1.     Helmets  and  gloves 

are  off.    DI VERIER  VALVES  are  IV. 

CC  Okay.    We're  right  with  you. 

Ok  Ik  39  l6    LMP-LM     And  you're  looking  at  NOUN  20. 

LMP-LM      Window  shades  are  going  close.     I  just  -  I'm  using 
it  instead  of  a  light  switch  because  I've  got  it 
covered  up. 

CDR-LM      Gordy,  you  got  NOUN  20? 

OI4  ik  kO  26    CC  That's  affirmative.     We  copy  NOUN  20. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Jack's  going  to  pick  up  the  AGS  -  on  the 

right  side  of  that  page,  and  I'll  part  the  antenna. 

CC  Roger. 

Oi*  Ik  k3  01    CDR-LM     P20's  in  work.     Correction,  P57's  in  work. 


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01+  ll+  U3  13    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     Your  DPS  OXIDIZER  PRESSURE 

is  1+0  or  less.    You  can  close  it. 

CDR-LM      Thank  you,  Gordy. 

CDR-LM      Gor(5y,  while  the  P5T  is  doing  its  gravity  work, 
let  me  say  that  the  LNA  and  the  landing  site, 
■from  a  relief  point  of  view,  I  -  I  think,  are 
identical.     I  -  I  couldn't  say  enough  for  the  LNA. 
I  actually  didn't  look  around  nearly  as  much  as  I 
thought  I  would,  or  as  I  wanted  to,  because  I  had 
fixation  on  -  on  a  reasonable  spot  to  land.  They're 
not  all  reasonable  in  that  there's  some  very  subtle 
hummocky-like  craters  right  in  and  around  where  we 
are.    And  there's  not  a  -  a  lot  of  boulders  laying 
on  the  surface,  but  there's  a  lot  of  what  appear 
to  be  boxilders  that  are  covered  up  by  some  of  the 
dark  mantle.     Numerous  enough  that  you  would  not 
like  to  take  a  chance  at  putting  a  -  a  pad  down 
on  one  of  them  or  in  one  of  those  hummocky  subtle 
craters.    As  a  result,  I  really  didn't  have  a 
chance  to  look  all  around  at  where  I  wanted  to 
except  to  put  the  bird  down  where  I  wanted  it. 

CC  Okay.     We've  got  no  complaint  with  that. 

CDR-LM      I  guess  the  thing  that  probably  -  probably  sur- 
prised me  most  about  the  site,  as  far  as  landing 
is  concerned,  is  the  fact  that  there  were  these  - 
these  -  I  hesitate  to  say  they're  outcrops  but 
certainly  they're  buried  massive  pieces  of  rock  - 
whether  they're  boulders  or  not,  we'll  have  to 
find  out  -  out  here  in  the  plains  area,  partially 
covered  and  filleted  by  the  dark  mantle.     And  I 
expected  to  find  a  number  of  craters,  but  I  guess 
I  really  didn't  expect  to  find  -  to  find  the  - 
the  rock  types  around.     And  we're  talking  about 
anywhere  from  1  to  2  meters  down  to  -  oh,  2  or 
3  feet,  which  when  they're  sticking  out  and  on 
the  sides  of  some  of  these  subtle  craters  look 
pretty  menacingly.     But  that  probably  is  the  one 
thing  that  surprised  me  most. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 


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Oi;  111  1+5  1+9    CDR-LM      The  visibility  prior  to  pltchover  was  such  that  I 

could  see  Nansen.     I  could  see  the  Scarp,     I  could 
see  Lara.    I  could  not  see  Camelot  until  after 
pitchover.    However,  once  I  had  pitchover,  if  I 
could  have  froze  it  right  there  like  we  do  in  the 
simulator  occasionally,  I  could  have  picked  out 
everything  there  was  to  see.    Even  at  60OO  feet, 
the  small  triangle  with  Frosty  and  Rudolph  and 
Punk  were  visible  to  me.     I  had  -  I  had  Poppy 
from  orbit,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  so  it  was  - 
easily  -  easy  to  see.    Barjea  was  a  very  sharp 
round  crater  just  as  depicted  on  the  LNA.  The 
thing  I  really  didn't  get  a  good  look  at,  because 
I  didn't  pay  too  much  attention  to  it,  was  from 
Trident  on  to  the  south. 


CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM      Gordy,  this  is  the  LMF.    Let  me  say  -  Gordy,  this 
is  the  LMP.     Let  me  say  that  the  inside  of  the 
spacecraft  looked  just  like  the  simiaators. 

CC  Very  good.  Jack. 

CDR-LM      Another  interesting  thing,  Gordy.     All  the  way 

through  PDI  prior  to  pitchover.  Jack  and  I  had  - 
had  the  real  America  -  or  the  other  America  - 
right  out  -  smack  out  the  front  window  all  the 
way  down,  which  was  pretty  spectacular. 

Ok  Ik  1|7  21    CC  I  bet  it  was.     And  you  can  consider  yourself 

STAY  for  T-3. 


CDR-M      Thank  you,  sir.     You're  getting  smoother  all  the 
time.     If  you're  happy  with  NOUN  22,  I'll  PRO. 

CC  Stand  by  1. 

01+  11+  1+7  1+6    CC  You're  clear  to  PRO, 

01+  11+  1+8  1+1    LMP-LM     Okay,  Gordy.    I  had  the  angles  matched  on  the 

steerable  and  went  to  SLEW,  and  they  -  it  held 
for  a  few  seconds  and  then  dropped  off. 


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CC  Okay.     It  looks  pretty  good.     You  might  try  to 

peak  it  up  just  a  little  more. 

Ok  ik  k9  01    LMP-M  No,  we're  on  an  onmi  now. 

CC  Roger. 

Oh  Ik  kg  12    LMP-IM  I'll  try  the  steerahle  one  more  time  here. 

CC  Okay,  you  should  be  -  - 

Ok  Ik  kg  22    LMP-LM      Okay.    We're  on  the  steerable,  and  I'm  not  going 

to  touch  it. 

Ok  ±k  kg  35    LMP-LM      It's  steerahle  and  SLEW,  and  I  got  3.8. 

CC  Okay.     That  looks  good  to  us.  Jack. 

CC  Jack,  we'd  like  you  to  verify  the  TAPE  RECORDER, 

OFF. 

OU  lU  50  12    LMP-LM     Yes,  that's  verified,  Gordy. 

LMP-LM      Gordy,  how  does  the  fuel  vent  look  to  you? 

Ok  Ik  51  Ok    CC  Okay.     Looks  like  8  to  us.     You  can  go  ahead  and 

close  it. 

LMP-LM      Anyway,  it  -  Okay.     I  already  did. 

Ok  Ik  58  28    CDR-LM      Gordy,  I  -  I  guess  I'm  puzzled  on  that  one.  I 

had  the  right  star.     You  see  anything  we  did  wrong 

CC  Standby.    We're  checking. 

Ok  ik  59  52    CC  Gene,  our  only  guess  is  that  you  might  have  loaded 

NOUN  88  wrong.     We'd  like  you  to  start  over,  and 
we'll  watch  you  real  close  again. 

Ol+  15  00  05    LMP-LM      Gordy.    Listen,  I  think  we  know  what  we  did.  We 

loaded  SPRL  for  CRSR,  and  CRSR  for  SPRL.  How 
would  it  be  if  we  went  through  the  P5T  again  and  - 
Yes  -  we'll  -  I  guess  we  got  to  do  it  all  over. 
Those  old  numbers  are  no  good  Etnymore. 

CC  Okay. 


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LMP-LM     I  -  you  can  -  I'm  sure  that's  what  we  did.  We 
loaded  CRSR  for  SPRL,  and  SPRL  for  CRSR. 

CC  Okay.    And  it's  our  fault,  too.     We  should  have 

watched  that. 

Oh  15  01  51    CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    We  do  have  the  pre-PDI 

AGS  cal  numbers.  You  won't  need  to  read  them  to 
us . 


LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     Gordy,  you  going  to  want  a  recycle  on  this  gravity 
measurement?    I  douht  if  it'll  need  it. 

CC  Stand  iDy.    Wo,  no  recycle  necessary  this  time 

through. 


CDR-LM  Okay. 

Ok  15  02  32    Uff-LM      Gordy,  ED  BATs  are  37-2. 

CDR-LM      Gordy,  let  me  comment  about  the  handling  of  the 
bird.    After  you  once  fly  it  around  in  orbit  a 
little  bit,  you  get  accustomed  to  the  thrusters, 
and  it  -  it  came  back  to  me  quite  a  bit  from  10, 
anyway.     And  you  get  a  feel  for  acceleration  and 
deceleration  as  well  as  the  attitude  hold  capa- 
bility.   And  it  really  -  the  response,  even  with 
a  heavy  descent  -  descent  stage  near  the  surface  - 
is  phenomenal.     Responded  exactly  in  the  direction 
I  wanted,  held  attitude  very  good.     And,  let  me 
tell  you,  the  LLTV  plays  no  small  part  in  this 
landing  as  far  as  I'm  concerned. 


CC  Roger,  Gene. 

01+  15  03  1*5    LMP-LM      Okay.    NOUN  22  again.    I'll  go  ahead  and  torque 

them. 

CC  Okay.    Go  ahead. 

01+  15  10  18    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     It's  a  little  better. 
CC  Roger.     Looks  good. 


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Oh  15  10  28    LMP-m      Computer  is  NOUH  93. 

Oh  15  10  k8    CC  Okay.    Torque  it. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We're  standing  by  for  the 

dumps . 

Ok  15  11  38    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordo.     I'm  rea^  to  give  the  E-mem  - 

Coming  at  you  - 

01+  15  11  U6    LMP-LM      MARK  it.     It's  on  the  way. 

Ok  15  12  58    CDR-LM      Gordy,  one  other  thing  ahout  the  landing.     I  saw 

the  light,  I  think.    And  I  heard  Jack  call  it  - 
the  COUTACT  light.     I  think  I  waited  about  a 
second  and  -  and  hit  the  stop  button.     She  shut 
down  Immediately.    And,  of  course,  you  could  feel 
the  fall.     I  don't  really  feel  we  fell  that  much, 
but  it  was  quite  a  change  in  acceleration  at  that 
point . 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CDR-LM     And  I  guess  I  had,  from  what  I  would  guess,  a 
foot  or  2  for  -  per  second  forward  on  that  one. 

CC  Okay.     Sounds  good, 

CBR-LM      And  let  me  know  when  I  can  have  the  computer,  please. 

Ok  15  Ik  13    CC  Okay.     It's  your  computer.     And  I'm  standing  by 

with  parking  angles  when  you're  ready  to  load  thera. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     We'll  be  ready  in  a  second. 

LMP-LM     Go  ahead  with  the  angles. 

Oi+  15  15  02     CC  Okay.     These  are  the  IMU  parking  angles. 

Plus  295.86.     I  see  you're  loading  the  radar.  Do 
you  Just  want  to  load  these  or  write  them  down? 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead.     I'm  writing. 

Oil  15  15  29    CC  Okay.     Y  will  be  plus  all  zeros.     And  plTis  OBlt.lU. 

Over. 


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LMP-LM      Okay.     NOIM  20  will  be  plus  295.86,  plus  all 
zeros,  plus  O8U.1I+. 

CC  That's  correct. 

01+  15  16  16    LMP_LM      Okay,  Houston.    I'm  going  to  power  down  the  AGS, 

if  you're  willing. 


GO 


Not  yet.  Jack.  We'd  like  you  to  read  out  Okj  and 
053  to  us. 


LMP-LM      Okay.     You  want  the  new  ones. 

01+  15  16  1+6    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     If  you're  happy  with  NOUN  22,  I'll 

ENTER  them. 

CC  We're  happy. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     And  it  just  dawned  on  me.     I'm  sorry  about 
the  zero  on  the  NOUN  69.  (Laughter) 

CC  That's  okay.    You're  forgiven. 

CDR-LM  I  appreciate  that. 

01+  15  IT  21+    CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  got  0I+7  and  053. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Am  I  GO  to  PULL  the  breakers? 

OU  15  18  01    CDR-LM  Okay.     Are  you  happy  with  NOUN  20? 

01+  15  18  11+    CC  Okay.     We're  happy  with  NOUN  20,  and  you're  clear 

to  power  down  the  AGS. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

01*  15  19  37    LMP-LM  Gordy,  the  breakers  are  coming  OPEN  on  1-1+  and  1-5 

CC  Roger. 

01+  15  22  11    CDR-LM  Gordo,  we're  on  1-6. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 


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oh  15  31  31    LMP-LM     Okay,  Houston.    We're  at  the  "bottom  of  1-8,  and 

I'm  standing  by  for  your  lift-off  times. 

01+  15  31  38    CC  Okay,  Jack.    Lift-off  time  for  rev  15  is  ll6:55:51; 

16  is  ll8:5lt:28;  120:53:0U;  122:51:^+0;  12ll:50:17i 
126:1+8:53.  Over. 

01+  15  32  2T    LMP-LM      Okay.    Starting  with  rev  15,  ll6:55:51;  ll8:5l+:28; 

120:53:01+;  122:51:1+0;  12l+:50:lT;  126:1+8:53. 

CC  That's  a  good  readback. 

Ol+  15  35  11    CDR-LM      Gordo,  the  PLSS  is  against  the  hatch,  and  we're 

installing  the  BRA. 

CC  Roger  on  that. 

01+  15  1+8  22    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We've  got  three  questions  for 

you  to  help  pin  down  your  exact  position,  any  time 
it's  convenient.    Maybe  when  you're  taking  the 
out-the-window  pictures.  Over. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo.     I  think  we  can  give  it  to  you.  Why 
don't  you  wait?    We're  just  getting  the  -  the 
mag  bag  out  and  jett  bags  out  from  behind  the 
engine  cover  here,  to  give  you  an  idea  where  we 
are. 

CC  Okay.     Ko  hurry  at  all. 

CDR-LM      I  had  it  pinned  down  for  you,  until  I  got  to 
about  500  feet,  when  I  changed  my  mind. 

CC  Roger. 

01+  15  50  17    CDR-LM      Gordy,  we're  not  going  any  fiirther,  and  we'll 

answer  your  questions  here  when  we  get  some  time. 
I6y  best  guess  is  150  meters  from  Poppy  at  1  to 
2  o'clock. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 


CDR-LM 


CC 


And  I'll  bet  on  that  one.  But  we'll  get  with  you 
in  a  minute. 

Okay.     150  north-northwest  of  Poppy. 


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CDR-LM     Yes.    Mostly  vest,  but  slightly  north. 


CDR-LM      I'll  tell  you  the  -  we're  abeam,  I  think,  just 


about  abeam  of  Trident  1.     I  can  see  it  out  there, 
but  I  can't  really  define  Trident  1  from  Trident  2. 
And  the  thing  that  is  a  little  different  is  that 
I  appear  to  be  closer  to  it  than  I  normally  would 
have  expected  to  be. 


LMP-LM      That's  probably  as  close  as  the  Navy  Captain 
could  ever  guess  where  he  is  anyway. 


CC 


Roger. 


CC 


Okay. 


Oh  15  51  56  CO 


Roger.  (Laughter) 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  T5B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUITD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

oh  15  53  03    CMP  Just  about  to  make  it. 

oh  15  53  23    CMP  PAN  CAMERA  to  STANDBY. 

CC  America,  Houston.     We're  reading  you;  how  us? 

CMP  Okay;  Just  about  have  you,  Houston.     But  not  quite. 

CMP  Not  quite. 

Oh  15  56  01    CMP  ...  vent's  closed.    Okay,  Houston.    This  is 

America.     Looks  like  we  have  you  for  good  now. 

CC  Roger.     Ron,  you're  looking  great.     We  need  a  - 

words  on  the  spacecraft  condition.    We  got  a  couple 
of  rockets  out  at  White  Sands  ready  to  launch  for 
a  UV  calibration,  and  we  need  the  GO  from  you  on 
that . 

CMP  (Laughter)     Yes,  I'm  great  up  here.    They're  not 

going  to  try  to  hit  me,  are  they? 


CC 


No,  babe.  We  wouldn't  do  that.  These  Eire  a  couple 
of  calibration  rockets  on  Aerobee. 


CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.    Sounds  great.     Tape  motion  has 

stopped,  by  the  way.     And  I'm  ready  to  charge 
battery  B. 

CC  Roger.    That's  a  GO  on  that. 

CMP  By  the  way,  battery  -  Okay  -  the  battery  compart- 

ment pressure  went  up  to  0.8  after  3  or  it  days  here. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy  that. 

Oh  15  57  18    CMP  Okay.     BUS  TIES  are  OFF;  PYRO  BUS  TIES  are  OPEN. 

Let's  see  about  BUS  A  and  B.     I  think  those  are 
OPEN.    Yes,  they're  OPEN. 

Oh  15  57  UO    CMP  Okay;  RELAY  BUS  BAT  B  is  OPEN  -  coming  OPEN. 

Getting  around  to  battery  charger.     BAT  CHARGE  to 
Alfa  and  then  to  Bravo.    Both  about  30. 


Tape  T5B/2 


CC  Ron,  we're  ready  for  "bat  -  PAN  CAMERA  POWER,  OFF. 

Ok  15  58  2k    CMP  Okay.    PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF.    And  -  let's  see. 

Is  the  time  for  the  lunar  sounder  stuff? 

CC  Got  about  3  minutes  on  that,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 


CMP 

CC 

CDR 

CC 


cc 

CMP 


CMP 

CC 


CC 


You  know,  all  I  did  was  eat  for  3  days.     And  now  I 
don't  even  get  a  chance  to  eat. 

Roger.     You  getting  hungry? 

I've  had  two  gingerbread  bars  and  a  brownie,  so  far. 
Yes.    We're  going  to  keep  you  busy. 


CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    That's  good. 


I  understand  they  left  you  some  scissors  so  you 
can  eat .  Huh? 

Yes,  fortunately.  I  still  got  them.  I  even  got 
them  tied  down  this  time. 


CC  Roger, 


Did  Challenger  figure  out  where  they  are?  Are  they 
pretty  close  to  -  the  center  of  the  ellipse? 

They  look  like  they're  a  couple  of  hundred  meters 
short,  Ron.  No  problem.  They  landed  in  a  smooth 
area.    And  that's  what  counted. 


CMP  Oh,  that's  great. 

Ok  16  02  11    CMP  Okay.     LUNAR  SOUNDER  OPERATE  is  in  STANDBY. 

RECORDER  is  going  ON.    RADAR  is  going  ON.  RECORDER 
is  gone  OFF.    OFF  to  center;  not  to  HEATERS.  And 
the  MODE  is  going  to  VHF. 


Thank  you,  Ron.  I've  got  that  pan  camera  photo  pad 
any  time  you  want  it. 


CMP  Okay.    Let's  see,  ll6:30.  Huh? 


Tape  75B/3 


CMP  (Humming)     Okay;  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    T-start  time:     ll6:31:10.  T-stop 

time :     ll6 : 59 : U6 . 

CMP  Start:     ll6:31:10.    T-stop:  Il6:39:h6. 

CC  Good  readback,  Ron. 

CC  Ron,  we'd  like  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

0*1  16  Oh  09    CMP  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America  here.     I'm  ready  to  do  the 

LUNAR  SOUNDER  EXTEND  test  here  for  a  while,  if 
you  want.    Whenever  your  ready. 

CC  Roger.     Stand  by,  Ron. 

0I+  16  05  ^0    CC  Okay,  America.     We're  ready  for  the  HF  ANTENNA 

EXTEND  test,  and.  Just  for  your  infonnation.  White 
Sands  got  one  of  the  rockets  off.    The  other  one 
was  a  NO  GO. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.  Good. 

Oh  16  06  02    CMP  Okay.    HF  ANTENNA  1.    Barher  pole.    1001,  1002. 

It's  OFF.  Gray.  Okay;  number  1,  RETRACT,  barber 
pole.  Barber  pole?  No  barber  pole.  Very  inter- 
esting. 

CMP  Would  you  believe  number  1  stuck  out  there? 

CC  Roger,  Ron.  We're  seeing  stall  current  right  now. 

CC  Ron,  we'd  like  to  go  OFF  on  HF  ANTENNA  1.  And 

standby  on  number  2. 

CMP  Okay;  it's  OFF,  and,  of  course,  it  went  gray 

again . 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  say  standby  for  number  2? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that ,  Ron .     Don ' t  do  number  2  yet . 


Tape  75B/U 


CMP  Okay.    I  won't  do  it  yet. 


Ol;  16  09  51    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  try  MTENNA  1  again. 

We'd  like  you  to  go  EXTEND  for  barber  pole  plus 
3  seconds,  then  OFF,  then  RETRACT. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  try  that.     HF  number  1,  EXTEND.  1001, 

1002,  1003.  It's  OFF.  And,  of  course,  I  got  a 
barber  pole  as  it  was  going  up.  Okay;  you  want 
to  try  RETRACT  again? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

ok  l6  10  32    CMP  Okay.     HP  for  number  1  to  RETRACT,  now.    And  a 

barber  pole . 

CC  Ron,  we'd  like  you  to  turn  it  OFF  now. 

Oh  l6  11  ik    CMP  Okay;  it's  OFF,  and  the  talkback  is  gray. 

Oh  l6  13  56    CC  Ron,  Houston  here.     On  that  one,  we  followed  your 

RETRACT  current  in  for  7  seconds,  and  then  it 
went  into  stall;  so  it  apparently  is  the  track  - 
it's  retracting  normally  up  to  a  point,  and  then 
goes  into  stall.     We'd  like  you  to  press  on  and 
do  EXTEND  on  HF  ANTENNA  2.     And  we're  going  to 
press  on  here,  probably  thinking  like  maybe  we 
won't  get  the  antennas  in.    And  on  ANTENNA  2  -  - 

CMP  Okay . 

CC    it's  -  it's  according  to  the  Flight  Plan, 

barber  pole  plus  2  seconds, 

CMP  Okay;  we'll  go  barber  pole  plus  2. 

Oh  16  II+  31    CMP  Okay.    Number  2,  EXTEND.     Barber  pole  1001,  1002. 

Off.     Okay;  number  2  going  to  RETRACT,  now.  Barber 
pole  1001,  1002.    Hey!     Okay;  it  went  gray  -  and 
back  to  OFF. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You're  GO  for  the  extending,  and  just 

a  reminder  on  the  Flight  Plan,  there's  a  RECORDER, 
ON,  prior  to  the  EXTEND  there. 


Tape  T5B/5 


CMP  Oh,  okay;  that's  good. 

Oil  16  15  28    CMP  Okay.     RECORDER'S  going  ON.     And  we'll  extend 

number  1.     Let  me  get  the  clock  going  here.  Okay; 
3,  2,  1  - 

Ok  16  15  hk     CMP  MAEK  it. 

CC  Currents  are  looking  good.     The  extension  is 

looking  normal,  so  far.  And  the  Aerdbee  rocket  had 
some  problem  -  - 

CMP  Okay;  great. 

CC  -  -  and  didn't  get  a  chance  to  look  at  the  Sun. 

CMP  Uh-oh . 

CC  And  they're  going  to  try  and  launch  a  couple  more 

the  day  after  tomorrow. 

CMP  Very  good. 

Oh  16  16         CMP  Hey,  I  think  I  can  see  a  light  spot  down  there  on 

the  landing  site  where  they  might  have  blown  off 
some  of  that  halo  stuff. 

CC  Roger.     Interesting,  interesting  comment. 

CMP  It's  between  Sherlock  and  Camelot  -  between  - 

Ok  16  17  00    CMP  Hey,  it's  gray  now  on  the  number  1  EXTEND. 

CC  Roger.     We  got  it.    And  we  got  -  we  copy  it's  all 

the  way  out  down  here.     You  can  to  go  OFF  on  that 
one. 

OU  16  17  08    CMP  Okay;  ntmber  2  is  going  to  -  it's  OFF.     And  num- 

ber 2  is  going  to  EXTEND. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     The  currents  look  normal  on  number  2 

while  it  extends . 

CMP  Okay. 

Ok  16  18  17    CMP  Hey,  I  can  see  number  2. 


Tape  T5B/6 


CC  Roger.    That's  good  show.     It's  going  to  be  moving, 

Ron. 

CMP  All  the  way  out  there.     It  is? 

CMP  rty  window's  all  fogged  up  here,  and  can't  see  a 

thing, 

CC  Roger . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    We  show  it  all  the  way  out   

CMP  Fogged  up  on  the  . . .  side  . . . 

CC  -  -  so  you  can  go  ahead  and  turn  it  off. 

OU  16  19  09    CMP  Okay;  we'll  turn  it  off. 

CMP  Houston,  this  is  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  I  didn't  have  my  map  there,  but  I  was  looking  at 

the  landing  site,  and  as  close  as  I  can  remember, 
it  had  to  be  somewhere  around  about  DN  83.3  on 
the  200-meter  scale,  the  TL25-8. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     I'm  coming  up  on  some  Flight  Plan 

operations  on  the  mapping  camera  that  you  might 
want  to  check. 

CMP  Thank  you. 

CMP  Okay . 

oh  16  23  58    CMP  Probably  dark  down  there.     MAPPING  CAMERA  to  OFF. 

OU  16  2h  kg    CMP  Okay;  MAPPING  CAMERA  to  STANDBY.     LASER  ALTIMETER, 

OFF.     IMAGE  MOTION,  OFF.     Barber  pole;  gray. 

Ok  16  25  08    CMP  MAPPING  CAMERA  to  OFF. 

Ok  16  26  09    CMP  Let's  see.    PAN  CAMERA  SELF  TEST,  OFF.    And  it's 

after  sunset.     UV,  OFF.     IR  is  OFF.     DATA  SYSTEM 
is  OFF.  SM/AC  POWER,  we're  going  to  get  that  OFF. 
SM/AC  POWER  is  OFF.     Okay;  it  looks  like  12. 
LUNAR  SOUNDER  to  OPERATE. 


Tape  T5B/T 


oh  16  29  01    CC  America,  while  we're  waiting  for  this  lunar  sounder 

to  operate  for  2  minutes ,  could  you  -  could  you  say 
again  those  coordinates  you  gave  us .     I  dug  out 
the  map  TL  25-8,  and  I  got  the  83. 3,  hut  what  was 
the  azimuth  coordinate  on  that ,  Ron? 

CMP  It  was  Dog  Hovember,  and  maybe  Just  a  little  hit 

to  the  right  of  Dog  November. 

CC  Okay;  Dog  November.     Thank  you.    And  you  think  that's 

where  they  are ,  huh? 

CMP  Yes . 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  Well,  there's  the  -  there's  a  real  white  spot 

down  there,  you  know.    And  I  didn't  have  -  I  only 
got  a  short  -  I  only  got  a  look  at  that  thing  for 
about  30  seconds  before  I  had  to  so  something  else. 
But  I'm  just  re  -  re  -  recalling  in  my  mind  where 
the  -  where  the  white  spot  is  with  respect  to 
those  -    there's  Camelot  and  there's  Sherlock,  and 
them  from  Camelot  to  Sherlock,  there  were  two  other 
craters,  and  they  were  Just  a  little  bit  closer  to 
Camelot ,  but  between  those  two  other  craters  there . 

CC  Good  show.  Roger. 

CMP  There's  a  white  spot  -  yes,  there's  a  white  spot 

on  the  -  like  it  might  have  been  dust  blowing  or 
something,  you  know. 

CC  Roger.     That  may  be  the  -  the  rocket  exhaust.  It 

might  be  Just  a  little  off  that  light  spot . 

CMP  Yes . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We're  ready  for  LUNAR  SOUNDER,  OPERATE 

to  OPERATE.    And  if  you'll  give  me  a  mark,  I'll 
time  it  out  for  you. 

CMP  Okay.     Stand  by.     3,  2,  1  - 

Oh  16  31  13    CMP  MARK  it.     Barber  pole;  gray. 


Tape  T5B/8 

Oh  16  33  15    CMP  Okay;  she's  STMDBY.     MODE  has  gone  to  HF.  I'll 

select,  I'm  going  to  need  Bravo.    Too  had.  Do  old 

HIGH  GAIN,  MANUAL  and  WIDE.    That's  12  and  211. 

Oh  l6  3h  23    CMP  Okay;  minus  12,  211.    HIGH  GAIN  ANTENNA  POWER  is  OFF. 

BIT  RATE  is  LOW.    Okay;  ready  for  the  HF  part  of  it? 

CC  Stand  by,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay;  standing  by. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  can  go  LUNAR  SOUNDER  OPERATE  to 
OPERATE . 

Ol+  16  35  03    CMP  Okay.     OPERATE  at  15.     Barber  pole  and  then  a  gray. 

Ok  l6  37  03    CMP  SOUNDER  to  STANDBY  at  17 . 

CC  Roger. 

Oh  l6  37  09     CMP  Okay;  BIT  RATE  -  BIT  RATE  to  HIGH. 

CC  Stand  by,  Ron. 

CMP  May  as  well  pull  some  film  for  -  Okay;  we'll  stand 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     LUNAR  SOUNDER  OPERATE  to  OPERATE.  We're 

all  set. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  make  it  at  17:1+0. 

CC  Roger. 

Oh  l6  37  h3    CMP  17:^0,  went  to  OPERATE. 

Oi+  l6  38  hh    CMP  18:U0.     LUNAR  SOUNDER,  STANDBY. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    Just  for  your  information,  whatever  we 

could  read  down  here  was  looking  great . 

CMP  Hey,  great! 

CC  Both  HF  and  VHF  look  good,  and  we  saw  no  visible 

interference  on  the  CSM  telemetry. 


Tape  75B/9 


CMP  Hey,  outstanding!    That's  great. 

CMP  Now,  if  the  old  antenna  ■would  come  back  in,  we'd 

be  in  good  shape,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

0^+  16  39  56    CMP  Okay;  we're  maneuvering  to  VHF  test  attitude. 

oh  16  h6  26    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  about  ready  to  press  ahead, 

if  you  all  are? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.     Okay,  Ron.    We  are  all 

ready  to  press  on. 

Oh  16  U6  53    CMP  Okay.    HIGH  GAIN  MTEOTA  POWER  is  ON.    We  go  to 

MANUAL  and  WIDE.    Minus  about  12,  and  YAW  about 
21  or  something,  211.     ...  on  the  HIGH  GAIN.  Ah-ha, 
AUTO.    Looks  like  it  worked  pretty  good.  Okay. 
MODE  to  VHF.     Find  it  -  there  it  is.     MODE  to  VHF. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,     We're  ready  for  LUNAR  SOUNDER  OPERATE 

to  OPERATE. 

CMP  Okay.     OPERATE  at  28. 

oh  16  h8  oh    CMP  OPERATE. 

CMP  Boy,  you  talk  about  night  flying,  this  is  the 

kind  of  night  flying  you  want  to  do ,  by  the  full 
Earth . 

CC  Is  that  right? 

CMP  Beautifia  out  there. 

OU  16  50  OU    CMP  Okay.     It  went  to  STANDBY  at  30. 

CC  Roger. 

Oh  16  50  10    CMP  MODE  is  gone  to  HF.     RECORDER  is  OFF.     Lose  a  little 

comm  here,  huh?    Maybe.    Okay;  there's  Bravo. 
Select  OMNI.     The  HIGH  GAIN  at  minus  -  MANUAL,  WIDE. 
Minus  10  and  25  for  AOS. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    We're  still  riding  you  -  reading  you 

loud  - 


Tape  T5B/10 


Oh  16  51  08    CMP  Okay;  good".    And  HIGH  GAIN  AlfTENNA  POWER  is  going 

OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  We  Just  want  to  give  you  some  fair  warning,  Ron. 

When  you  come  around  AOS  next  time  at  II6 : 30 ,  it ' s 
a  -  Flight  Plan  update.    We  got  q^uite  a  lengthy 
update  on  the  Flight  Plan  -  all  orbital  picture 
work,  hut  quite  lengthy. 

CMP  Okay.    Are  you  going  to  try  to  pull  that  antenna 

hack  in  first  before  we  completely  change  the 
Flight  Plan? 

CC             Ron,  we're  going  to  take  a  good  hard  look  at  that, 
and  see  if  we  can  generate  up  either  a  test  on 
that  or  what.    That's  kind  of  in  limbo  right  now, 
Ron.    These  Flight  Plan  changes   

CMP  Oh ,  okay . 

CC  -  -  these  Flight  Plan  changes  I've  got  for  you 

coming  up  later  will  be  all  some  items  FaroiA  has 
on  camera  pictures  on  the  -  that  spot  Jack  thought 
he  saw  the  light  spot  and  a  few  other  changes. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  And,  Ron,  just  for  your  information,  regardless  of 

what  we  do  on  that  antenna,  we  won't  have  any 
Flight  Plan  changes  until  after  ihh  hoTors  due  to 
that  antenna. 

CMP  Oh!  Okay. 

CC  Ron,  we  would  like  H^  tank  2  FANS  to  ON. 


Oil  16  3h  00    CMP  tank  2  FANS  are  ON,  now. 


CC  Okay,  Ron.     You're  lucky  you're  up  there  tonight,, 

Ron.  We're  having  really  ratty  weather  down  here. 
Low  clouds  and  rain  and  drizzle  and  cold. 


CMP 


Oh,  really? 


Tape  T5B/11 


Yes.    You  walk  -  you  walk  outside,  you  just  about 
can't  see  the  top  of  building  2. 

Gee  whiz!    Guess  I  picked  a  good  time  to  he  gone. 

That's  for  sure. 

Hey!     You  know,  you'll  never  believe  it.     I'm  right 
over  the  edge  of  Orientale,    I  just  looked  down 
and  saw  a  light  flash  myself. 

Roger.  Understand. 

Right  at  the  end  of  the  rille. 

Any  chance  of  -  - 

That's  on  the  east  of  Orientale. 

Roger. 

You  know,  you  don't  suppose  it  could  be  -  Vostog  [?] 

I'll  be  derned.     I've  got  to  mark  that  spot  on  the 
map. 

Ron,  just  before  you  leave,  you're  too  bad  to  hear. 
You're  looking  good  as  you  go  around  the  horn,  and 
we'll  pick  you  up  at  ll6:30.    Voices  will  be  pretty 
marginal  the  rest  of  the  way  out . 

Just  about  to  lose  you. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  76a/ 1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


Ol+  15  58  37    LMP-LM     Okay,  Houston,  we're  just  starting  our  eat  period. 

Sorry  to  be  a  little  behind.    PRD  readings  are 
17037  and  LMP  is  2U117. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  got  that. 

CC  Would  you  verify  your  BIOMED,  RIGHT? 

LMP-LM  Yes,  that's  verified.    How  does  it  look? 

CC  Looks  good. 

Ok  16  01  11    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.    We're  starting  to  cut  into  a  little 

lunch  here  and,  if  you've  got  any  questions,  why 
don't  you  come  up  with  them  now? 

CC  Okay.    We're  wondering  if  you  can  give  us  estimate 

of  the  angoilar  position,  clock  position  of  Rudolph, 
And  can  you  line  up  Rudolph  with  a  horizontal 
feature  out  beyond  it? 

CC  I  -  I  should  say  horizon  feature  -  out  in  the 

distance,  not  horizontal. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     I  thought  Rudolph  was  right  out  there  at 

3  o'clock.    Jack's  looking  at  it  and  he  said,  yes, 
that  is  Rudolph  right  at  3  o'clock  out  his  right- 
hand  window. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM      I  don't  know  if  it'll  mean  anything  to  you,  but 

the  shadow  of  the  LM,  the  rendezvoois  radar  antenna 
is  pointing  about  one-third  of  the  way  down  from 
the  peak  of  Family.     And  that,  I  know,  is  pretty 
gross.     And,  Gordo,  I  -  I  must  be  right  here 
abeam  of  Trident  1.     The  only  reason  I  hesitate  is 
that  I'm  so  close  -  but  it's  probably,  well  I 
guess  it's  close  to  100  meters  -  80  meters  sinyway  - 
to  where  the  -  where  the  rim  of  Trident  1  falls 
off.    And  I  am  abeam  of  the  center  of  Trident  1, 
and  that's  the  only  possible  thing  it  could  be. 
And  that  would  put  Poppy  just  about  where  I  ex- 
pected it  to  be. 


Tape  76A/2 


CC  Okay. 


CC 


We  just  want  to  confirm.    You're  referring  to 
Trident  1  as  the  easternmost  part  of  T-idf^nt 
that  right?  '  ' 


IS 


Cm-m      No,  sir,  Gordo.     It '  s  always  been  the  westernmost 
part  of  Trident.     The  -  the  landing  site  was  on 
a  line  between  Trident  1  and  Rudolph  and  judging 
from  what  Jack's  got  on  his  right-hand  window  and 
What  I  got  on  my  left-hand  window  we're  right 
there,  except  possibly  a  skosh  further  south  on 
that  line. 

CC  Okay,  understand. 

MP-LM      And  the  target  point  that  was  in  the  PGNS  was 

right  up  where  we  all  had  expected  it  to  be  about 
halfway  between  here  and  what  we're  calling  the 
rim  of  Camelot.    We  can't  see  into  Camelot;  we 
can  just  see  the  rim  of  it.     It's  several  -  oh, 
at  least  200  meters  -  2  to  300  meters  ud  there, 
I  expect.  " 


CC 


CC 


Okay,  what  o'clock  position  is  the  west  -  th- 
nearest  part  of  the  rim  of  Camelot?    Or  maybe  if 
it's  better  defined   


LMP-LM      12  o'clock. 


-  -  Define  the  south  rim.  Can  you  see  the  south 
rim  of  it? 


CDR-LM      Yes,  Gordy,  but  it  -  it  blends  in  so  well;  all 

we  re  seeing  is  a  -  an  undulating  high  as  the  rim. 
And  to  the  best  of  my  knowledge,  we've  got  the 
south  rim  at  -  or  correction,  the  east  rim  right 
at  12  o'clock.     Hey,  Gordy,  right  at  12  o'clock 
also  IS  a  boulder  that's  at  least  3  meters  and 
maybe  5,  and  I  wouldn't  be  a  bit  surprised  if  you 
can  find  it.     It's  on  a  line  between  us  and  the 
intersection  of  the  South  Massif  and  the  Family 
Moun  -  Mountain  horizon.    Just  slightly  left  of 
that  line  or  south  of  that  line.    And  that  boulder 
ought  to  show  up  on  your  best  photographv. 


Tape  76a/ 3 


CC  Okay,  Jack.     We'll  take  a  look.     One  other 

question  -  - 

LMP-M      And  it's  at  -  it's  at  least  -  that  boulder's  at 
least  200  meters  away. 

CC  Okay.    Can  you  see  the  west  rim  of  Trident,  and 

can  you  give  us  a  clock  position  on  the  west  rim 
of  West  Trident? 

CDE-LM     Okay,  Gordy.    The  west  rim  of  Trident,  which,  by 
the  way,  is  full  of  outcropping- looking  "boulders, 
is  at  10  o'clock. 

CC  Okay,  Gene   

CDR-LM      Okay,  I  can  look  back  around  the  corner  now  and 

,   I  can  -  I  cem  see  where  the  east  -  where  Trident  1 
rose  up  to  its  rim  on  the  east  side,  and  I  would 
say  we're  abeam  of  a  point  -  abeam  of  a. point 
one-third  the  way  from  east  to  west  up  the  center 
of  Trident;  that  is,  we're  -  we've  covered  one- 
third  of  Trident  1  and  we're  abeam  of  a  point  of 
a  line  that  goes  through  the  one-third  point  from 
east  to  west  of  Trident  1. 

CC  Okay,  Gene;  that's  very  clear.     I  think  we've  got 

you  pretty  well  nailed  down.    And  you're  pretty 
close  to  the  -  the  planned  landing  site. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  I  think  it's  very  close  to  our  planned  land- 
ing site  and  I  -  I'm  (chuckle)  -  I'm  anxious  to 
see  where  Poppy  is,  becaiose  I  think  what  I  said 
earlier  is  true. 

CC  Okay.    That's  all  the  questions  now.    Enjoy  your 

dinner. 

ok  16  10  2h    LMP-LM      Houston,  I  have  calmed  down,  but  be  advised  that 

our  dinner  is  corn  chowder. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      He  went  to  captain's  mast  for  eating  that  the 
other  day. 


Tape  76a/ it 


Oh  16  16  09    LMP-LM      Gordv    Houq+on  •   -,7      v  a 

vjuiujf,  nousxorij  J./-.  How  do  you  read  -  or  Chal- 
lenger or  whoever  we  are? 


CC 

LMP-LM 


Whoever  you  are;  you're  loud  and  cle 


ar. 


I  took  the  binocs  and  looked  at  some  large  boulders 
at  our  12  o'clock  position.    They're  probably  on 
the  order  of  a  half  meter  to  2  meters,  buried  but 
without  strong  filleting.    And  most  of  them  that 
I  could  see  had  the  same  mottled  light-gray  and 
medium-gray  texture,  and  it  looked  like  there's  a 
lineation  in  it.    And  whatever  the  mottling  is, 
It  s  on  a  frame  size  or  fragment  size  of  a  -  or 
a  few  centimeters,  and  it  looks  as  if  it's  very 
uniform  in  that  mottling;  that  is,  there's  one  - 


one  fragment  size 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-LM      There  are  a  few  near  one  crater  out  at  12  o'clock  - 
dark-gray  rock  that  may  be  glass  coated.  Matter 
of  fact,  one  of  them  looks  like  it's  right  at  the 
rim  and  might  have  been  part  of  a  projectile  that 
made  the  crater. 

CC  Roger . 

Ok  16  17  1.7    LMP-M      T^e  large  boulder  that  I  mentioned  that's  several 

meters  in  diameter  -  I'm  not  even  sure  it's  a 
boulder  -  It  does  have  a  well-developed  fillet. 
It  s  highly  fractured.     It  looks  like  the  fractures 
generally  are  north-south.     At  least  you  can't  ~ 
we  can  t  see  end  on  into  the  fractures.     And  it's 
too  far  away  to  be  sure,  but  it  looks  like  it's 
mottled  also,  although  there  did  appear  in  the 

LT-^""  monocular  to  be  a  more  heterogeneous 

mottling.     It  might  be  a  breccia. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-LM      That  boulder  ought  to  be  very  close  to  the  ALSEP 
site . 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  76a/ 5 


CDR-LM      Gordo,  in  reference  to  these  boulders,  everywhere 
I  can  see  out  of  my  left  window  and  out  ahead  of 
me  in  referring  to  that  boulder  Jack's  talking 
about  which  is  just  a  little  bit  on  my  side  at 
12  o'clock,  it  appears  that  the  dark  mantle  has 
filleted  and,  for  the  most  part,  covered  -  or  it 
has  covered  part  of  or  is  up  on  top  of  some  of  the 
crevices  and  the  crannies  in  the  boxilders  them- 
selves, with  the  exception  of  -  Well,  I'll  take 
that  back  -  even  the  very  small  ones.    I'd  say 
from  a  popiilation  point  of  view,  boulders  of  the 
size  Jack's  talking  about  that  are  visible  through 
the  surface  anywhere  from  1  to  2  to  3  meters  -  a 
very  small  percentage,  but  when  you  look  at  them 
at  our  level,  it  looks  like  they  are  quite  popu- 
lous.    I'd  say  there  are  maybe  about  25  of  them 
in  view  between  myself  and  the  -  where  the  horizon 
falls  off  down  away  from  us  towards  the  South 
Massif.    The  area  back  towards  Station  1,  at  least 
the  other  side  of  Trident,  looks  like  it's  more 
heavily  strewn  with  some  of  these  filleted  and 
partially  mantled  large  fragments. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP-LM      To  say  that  there  is  a  boulder,  as  such,  actually 
sitting  on  the  surface,  I  can't  -  I  really  can't 
find  one,  unless  they're  along  -  around  something 
very  small  and  possibly  younger  craters.     But  I 
think  for  the  most  part  everything  is  somewhat 
mantled. 

CC  Okay. 

ok  l6  20  1*8    LMP-LM      Gordy,  I  think  maybe  the  predictions  of  a  fairly 

thin  regolith  were  good.    I  have  a  crater  at 
about  -  oh,  130  feet.     It  looks  like  it's  not  more 
than  a  meter  deep.    It's  very  fresh,  has  a  bright 
halo  around  it,  and  it's  very  rocky  in  its  interior 
and  has  some  rocks  that  are  at  least  10  or  20  cen- 
timeters in  diameter  on  the  rim.     It  looks  like 
it's  penetrated  into  some  rockier  -  much  rockier 
substrate  than  what  we're  seeing  on  the  siirface. 
The  surface  itself  looks  like  a  -  oh,  probably 
15  percent  fragments  greater  than  half  a  centimeter. 


Tape  76A/6 


CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP-M      I  don't  see  any  general  si  -  I  don't  see  any 

general  size,  Gordy.     I  do  have  a  crater  out  here 
that's  -  mayhe  a  meter  in  diameter  that  -  fairly 
fresh,  although  not  hright  halo  -  that  has  not 
penetrated  to  blocky  material.    And  it  looks  like 
that  the  saturation  crater  size  is  very  small  in 
the  area  we  can  see;  that  is,  there  don't  seem  to 
he  any  old  or  very  subdued  craters  -  Well,  let  me  - 
let  me  think  about  how  to  put  that  again.    They're  - 
It's  obviously  saturated  with  craters  a  few  centi- 
meters in  diameter,  but  when  you  get  bigger  than 
that,  there  seems  to  be  more  of  a  -  a  clear  distri- 
bution rather  than  a  saturation. 

CC  Okay . 

23  02    LMP-LM      Gordy,  let  me  give  you  a  quick  far  horizon.  At 
12  o'clock,  I've  got  Family  Mountain.     It's  a  - 
it  and  South  Massif  are  a  replica  from  their  plane 
form  where  I  -  up  from  where  I  am,  except  that 
Family  Mountain  is  much  more  symmetrical  and 
rounds  off  to  a  very  more  definite  peak.  The 
South  Massif,  in  turn,  has  got  a  high  plateau,  a 
high  flat  peak  on  top.    Ify  far  horizon  then,  at 
12  o'clock,  from  about  -  to  11:30  is  dominated  by 
Family  Mountain,     It's  -  Well,  I  hate  to  use  the 
word  anorthosite  without  getting  out  of  the  space- 
craft, but  it  sure  is  white.     It  s\ire  is  white, 
but  its  varied  shades  of  white  -  with  -  sort  of  a  - 
a  tendency  on  its  southern  or  southeastern  slope 
to  sort  of  be  marble  caked  with  a  darker  material 
much  the  same  color  as  the  mantle  that  we're  -  we've 
landed  on.    The  Family  Mountain  disappears  just 
about  at  the  level  of  the  rim  of  Camelot  on  my 
far  horizon  and  just  in  front  of  it  -  it  starts 
out  -  that's  at  about  11  o'clock  -  it  just  -  Just 
there  is  where  the  South  Massif  starts  up  very 
abruptly  -  I'd  say  -  well,  I'll  try  not  to  over- 
estimate, but  certainly  30  degrees,  I'd  say  -  very 
abruptly  to  a  very  impressive  altitude.     I  know 
I  was  at  13,000  when  I  said  I  was  at  their  level, 
but  -  it  siare  looked  it  from  there.    It  -  it  pla- 
teaus off  from  about  10:30  to  about  9:30,  and  then 


Tape  76a/ T 


it  starts  sloping  back  dovn  towards  the  east  at 
about  the  same  angle.    Very  symmetrical.  There 
are  several  places  where  you  can  see  what  appear 
to  be  outcrops.    I  say  several  -  about  a  dozen 
anyway,  where  you  can  see  relatively  large  areas 
of  outcrop  on  the  South  Massif.    That  outcrop  is 
a  -  of  a  darker  gray  color  than  the  white-gray  of 
the  Massif  itself.    The  one  most  domineering  - 
dominant  outcrop  is  right  at  the  change  in  slope 
to  the  west,  where  it  goes  upslope  and  then  pla- 
teaus off,  and  there  is  a  definite  outcrop.  And 
you  can  see  several  boulders  on  all  levels  of  the 
Massif  that  have  come  apparently  from  outcrops 
and  I  feel  certain  we  will  be  able  to  get  to  some 
of  those  -  that  have  come  all  the  way  down.  South 
Massif,  too,  is  a  -  appears  to  be  in  areas  maxbly 
caked  dirty,  such  as  if  it  was  sprinkled  with  a 
dirty  or  a  darker  covering,  and  that  covering  is 
more  evident  as  -  as  it  slopes  back  here  towards 
the  -  towards  the  east.    As  the  far  horizon  now, 
I  can  see  -  I  can  see  -  South  Massif  all  the  way 
to  9  o'clock,  but  then  behind  it,  there's  just  a 
little  breadloaf-type  dome  of  a  much  darker,  much 
more  hummocky  mound  back  there,  relatively  big. 
It's  probably,  from  where  I  stand,  at  least 
lOpercent  the  -  the  size  of  the  Massif,  the  South 
Massif.    Gray  in  texture.    There  appear  to  be 
some  lineations  running  -  well,  as  I'm  looking  at 
them,  they're  dipping  down  into  the  west  at  about 
20  degrees,  but  that  may  be  a  Sun-angle  problem. 
But  they're  definitely  there.    And  then,  contras- 
ting that  is  -  is  Bare  Mountain  which  is  also  much 
darker  gray,  much  different  than  the  Massif  from 
where  I  stand,  much  more  hummocky  surface.  It 
appears  to  be  to  me  what  I  would  expect  Sculptured 
Hills  to  be  like.    One  other  thing  about  the  South 
Massif  is  that  -  as  I  look  at  -  as  I  look  at  it  - 
at  about  9:30  to  10:30,  there  is  a  little  knob  of 
the  South  Massif  that  sort  of  flows  toward  - 
towards  the  east  or  slightly  towards  the  northeast. 
That's  the  one  that  tends  to  be  a  little  bit  more 
heavily  covered  with  the  -  darker  dusty  material  - 


Oh  16  28  06  CO 


Challenger,  Houston,  over. 


Tape  76a/ 8 


LMP-LM      There  are.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    We're  about  12  -  13  minutes  behind  the  time 

line  for  starting  cabin  preps.    And  backroom  is 
enjoying  your  descriptions,  but  we  think  we'd 
rather  you  press  on  with  the  preps  and  get  ready 
to  get  out  for  a  really  good  view.  Over. 

LMP-m     Okay,  Gordy.    We're  -  we're  doing  this  and  eating 
too  -  We're  trying  to  do  them  both  at  the  same 
time,  and  we  are  pressing.    Just  want  to  say  one 
other  thing  about  the  Massif.     I  can  see  a  couple 
of  places  where  craters  have  -  have  penetrated 
very  small  craters  and  penetrated  the  Massif  - 
craters  maybe  a  meter  or  2  in  size,  some  5  meters, 
and  there's  a  lot  of  rock  debris  around  them, 
which  tends  to  believe  that  there  is  very  little, 
11  any,  soft  covering  on  that  Massif. 

Roger. 

LMP-LM     Gordy    just  a  couple  more  words  about  the  North 
Massif.    It  looks  like  a  good  distribution  of 
boulder  tracks.    Many  of  the  boulders  are  acces- 

least  to  mxdslope.    Ihafs  at  my  3  o'clock  position. 
And  occasionally,  at  that  midslope  position,  par- 
ticularly northwest  of  Henson,  you  can  see  abun- 
dent  boulders  suggestive  of  outcrop.  That's 
something  that  we  had  missed  seeing  on  thp  pre- 
mission  photos.     But  -  And  it  isn't  as  abundant 
as  on  the  South  Massif,  but  there  are  apparent 
ledge  formers  about  midslope. 

Ok  16  30  08    cm-m     Yes,  let's  make  ...     I  don't  know  . 

No  way  it  coiild  be  1. 

CDR-LM      Give  me  that  ...  throw  away. 

Oh  16  31  03    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     There's  also  a  few  very  bright 

sparks  -  sparkles  from  the  surface  -  not  abundant, 
out  a  few. 


a  lot  of 


CDR-LM 


Well,  let  me  -  I  -  I  need  these. 


Tape  76A/9 


Ok  16  33  52    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     I'm  going  to  hand  you  over 

to  the  good  Dr.  Parker  here.     Have  a  good  trip 
outside  there. 

CDR-LM     Gordy,  thank  you.    You  do  outstanding  work  and  we 
sure  do  appreciate  it,  babe. 

CC  tty  pleasure. 

Ok  16  37  12    CDR-LM     Bob,  we'll  give  you  a  call  in  a  minute.    We  Just 

made  a  couple  of  suit  adjustments. 


CC 


Okay.    Copy  that. 


OU  16  kO  38    CC  Apollo  17,  Houston. 

CDR-LM     Go  ahead,  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  Challenger;  we've  just  lost  about  I6  dB  on 

your  high  gain  signal  strength  there.  We're 
wondering  if  you  happened  to  hit  the  switch  there, 
has  it  moved,  or  could  you  give  us  a  check  on  it? 

CDR-LM     We're  nowhere  near  it.    Stand  by  1. 

Okay.    And,  Challenger,  that  should  be  a  PITCH  of 
21  and  a  YAW  of  minus  I45. 

Plus  21  and  minus  k3>  Roger.  Bob,  about  2  minutes 
here. 


CC 


CDR-LM 


Ok  16  k6  30    LMP-LM      Bob,  this  is  Jack.    On  that  high  gain,  I'm  up 

close  to  39  now,,  which  is  better  than  when  we 
landed.    Do  you  want  me  to  do  anything  to  it? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that. 


CC 
CC 

LMP-M 


Leave  it  alone.  It  seems  to  have  gone  away.  Jack. 
It  may  have  been  a  ground  problem. 

Did  you  gyys  adjust  it.  Jack? 

Yes,  Bob.    We  had  to  fix  the  drink  bags  and  a 
couple  other  things. 


Tape  76A/IO 


No-    Did  you  guys  adjust  the  high  gain  antenna? 
LMP-LM     No.     I  didn't  touch  it. 
CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-LM      Buddy  SLSS's  in  there? 

LMP-LM      No.    That's  over  there.    Oh,  did  they?    ***  in 
there?    I  don't  -  I  thought  it  was  over  on  your 
side.     Okay?    Okay,  that's  over  there.  Bigger 
than  it  used  to. 

Ok  16  kj  51    CC  And,  Challenger,  we  have  your  hot  mike. 

LMP-LM  Well,  because  I   

01+  16  k9  Oh    CC  Challenger,  Houston.  Over. 

CDR-LM  Go  aliead.  Bob. 


CC 


CDR-LM 


Okay.    When  you  guys  get  to  the  top  of  page  2-5, 
and  I  assume  you're  down  still  in  the  -  ETBs  from 
what  your  comments  were  on  the  hot  mike  there. 
When  you  get  to  the  top  of  page  2-5,  we'd  like 
you  to  put  both  DEMAND  REGs  to  EGRESS.  Over. 

Okay,  Bob.    Will  do.     We'll  give  you  a  call  as 
we  go  along. 


CC  Roger.     Thank  you. 

Oh  16  50  55    CDR-LM     Hey,  Bob,  while  I'm  thinking  of  it,  we're  -  we're 

working  with  one  pair  of  scissors  down  here. 
We're  going  to  take  them  out  with  us  in  the  ETB. 
You  might  make  a  point  of  reminding  us  to  bring 
them  back. 


CC 

CDR-LM 


Okay.     I  copy  that.     Never  did  find  Ron's,  huh? 

No,  sir,  and  I  couldn't  just  leave  him  up  there 
starving  to  death. 


CC  Roger  on  that. 

CDR-LM      By  the  way,  how's  he  doing? 


Tape  76a/ 11 


CC  Stand  by. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.    Your  "buddy  is  doing  great, 

and  the  sounder  is  also  doing  great,  which  is  a 
siirprise,  I  guess. 

CDR-LM      I'm  glad  to  hear  that. 

LMP-LM     That  was  no  siirprise.  Boh,    We  wouldn't  have  taicen 
it  if  it  wasn't  going  to  work. 

CC  I  thought  about  that  after  I  said  it. 

Ok  16  53  09    CDR-LM     Boh,  I  just  turned  the  URINE  LIKE  HEATER,  OK. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-LM     And  the  physical  stat"us  of  the  crew  is  excellent, 
by  the  way. 

CC  Beautiful,    The  Surgeon's  happy. 

Ok  l6  5**  35    CDR-LM      Say,  Bob,  we're  at  the  top  of  2-5,  and  I  forgot 

what  it  was  you  wanted  me  to  do  up  there. 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  you  to  have  DEMAND  REGs ,  both  of 

them,  go  to  EGRESS,  please. 

ok  l6  5k  kg    CDR-LM      Yes,  sir.     Okay,  they're  EGRESS  now. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

Ok  l6  57  36    CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob,  we're  in  the  middle  of  the  first  para- 
graph on  -  at  115:15  in  the  time  line. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

Ok  17  ok  12    CDR-LM  CDR's  OPS  ...  580O. 

CC      '  Okay;  we  copy  58OO. 

Ok  17  ok  U5    LMP-LM  LMP's  OPS  is  6OOO  plus. 

CC  Copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  eng. 


Tape  76A/12 


0I+  17  05  31    CDR-LM     Okay.    Both  regulators  are  reg  -  regulating  slightly 

under  U.O. 

CC  Copy  that,  Challenger. 

OI+  17  09  k8    CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob.     The  URIME  LINE  HEATER  is  OFF  and  the 

URINE  LINE  BREAKER  is  OPEN,  and  we  are  down  to 
applying  antifog. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Challenger. 

Ok  17  17  12    LMP-LM  Okay,  Boh,  the  BRA  is  stowed. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.  Challenger. 

0^  17  20  15    LMP-LM  Ok£^y.    We're  at  "Starting  PLSS  donning  on  LMP." 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  T6B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUM)  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTION 
Ok  IT  22  XX  BEGIH  LUITAE  REV  15 

OU  17  5I+  1*5    CMP  Okay,  Hoiiston.     This  is  America.     Looks  like  you're 

with  me  now. 

CC  That's  affirmative,  America.    We  read  you.  loud 

and  clear. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Did  you  get  the  pan  camera  start  time  there,  Ron? 

CMP  That's  affirm.     But,  I  got  a  31:11  instead  of 

31:10. 

CC  Oh,  Roger.     No  problem. 

CMP  Okay.     (Laughter)     I'll  try  to  do  better  next  time. 

CC  America,  is  the  bird  in  good  shape? 

CiJSP  So  far  as  I  know. 

CC  Okay,  great.    Anytime  you  want  to  start  taking  a 

Flight  Plan  update,  just  let  me  know. 

CMP  Okay.     (Cough)    Give  me  a  little  bit  of  time  to 

lead  into  the  landing  site  there,  and  we  can  go 
ahead  and  do  it  now. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  The  first  thing  is  at  119:00,  119:00.    Add  the 

following  words ,  Ron:     "Configure  camera."  In 
parenthesis,  "Earthshine  photos.     CM5,  command 
module  5  window/November  Kilo.  Nikon/55/VHBW." 
That's  Victor  Hotel  Bravo  Whiskey. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  In  parenthesis;  f/1.2,  1,  infinity,  end  of  paren- 

thesis.   Eighteen  frames  FR  -  18  FR. 


Tape  T6B/2 


CMP  Good. 

CC  Magazine  Zulu  Zulu. 

CMP  Okay,  got  it. 

CC  Okay.     Go  down  to  119 :2U  and  add  the  following. 

Let  me  just  read  it  to  you  in  -  quickly  here,  so 
you  can  put  in  the  words  you  want  to.    The  words 
are  "Point  at  target  marked  "by  LMP.    Use  same 
technique  as  for  Copernicus  central  peak." 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  point  at  the  target  by  the  LMP.  Use 

the  same  technique,  which  is  starting  out  at 
1  second  -  - 


CC 


CC 


Roger,     Let  me  read  it  to  you. 


CMP   was  it  30  seconds? 

CC  Roger,     1  second,  two  frames;  1/2  second,  two 

frames;  1/U  second,  two  frames;  1/8  second,  two 
frames;  l/l6  second,  two  frames.    On  Copernicus, 
we're  using  a  30-second  interval.     It's  not  im- 
portant, -  the  interval.     It's  mainly  just  the 
stop  settings  on  that.     You're  going  to  use  a 
total  of  10  frames. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  then  add  the  following  after  that:  After 

completion  of  above,  switch  to  window  CBS.  For 
8  frame  of  end  of  target.  Papa  17  Delta.  At 
30-second  intervals.     Record  frame  number. 

Ok  17  59  52    CMP  Okay,  I've  got  to  switch  to  window  number  3  for 

end  of  target.     Say  again,  the  target  number. 

CC  P,  as  in  Papa;  17  Delta,  D  as  in  Delta.     17  Delta. 

CMP  Okay,  Papa  17  Delta. 

CC  As  30-second  intervals. 


Okay,  Ron.  There  is  a  caution  note  on  this.  It's 
a  note  concerning  the  frame  usage. 


Tape  T6B/3 


CMP  Seems  to  me  like  Zebra  Zebra  only  has  18  frames, 

doesn't  it? 

CC  That's  affirm.    Do  not  exceed  18  frames.  The 

balance  of  mag  Zebra  Zebra  was  used  for  pre flight 
calibration.    Do  not  exceed  18  frames.    You  can 
put  that  dovn  any  way  you  want  it. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    Under  rev  17,  I've  got  a  note  -  a  similar 

note,  Ron,  for  rev  17 . 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  The  note  is,  do  not  exceed  ko  frames  on  earthshine 

mag  Whiskey  Whiskey.    Balance  of  magazine  was  used 
for  preflight  cal.     I'll  say  again,  do  not  exceed 
ho  frames  on  earthshine  mag  Whiskey  Whiskey. 

Okay,  on  mag  Whiskey  Whiskey  don't  exceed  hO  frames. 
The  balance  is  already  on  calibration. 


CMP 


CC  That's  affirmative.    And  I've  got  three  notes  then, 

Ron,  just  general  notes  -  may  come  up  in  the  crew 
film  area.    Mag  Papa  Papa  for  crew  option.  Just 
use  mag  Papa  Papa  for  crew  option.     Do  not  use 
Kilo  Kilo  for  crew  option.    Do  not  use  Kilo  Kilo 
for  crew  option.     The  last  one  is  save  all  the 
remaining  VHBW  on  Quebec  Quebec  and  Romeo  Romeo 
for  scheduled  photos.     We  have  a  very  small  margin 
on  each. 


CC  ...  end  of  update . 

CMP  That  was  -  Okay,  save  all  remaining  on  Quebec 

Quebec.    And  what  was  the  other  one.  Jack? 

CC  Romeo  Romeo. 

CMP  Okay,  no  extras  on  those  two,  then  -  on  the  VHBW, 

huh? 

Yes,  we  got  a  very  small  margin  on  those  now. 
And,  you're  about  10  minutes  prior  to  landing 
site  orbital.     Why  don't  you  go  over  and  start 
studying  that,  if  you  want? 


Tape  76B/U 


Oi;  18  03  20    CMP  Okay. 

OU  18  11  52    CMP  You  kncfw  you  look  at  -  next  to  Macrobius  A,  there 

is  a  lind  of  a  dark  halo-type  crater  there.  Very 
small  one.    And  it  doesn't  have  the  appearance  of 
a  hummocky  crater  rim  to  it,  at  all.     It  looks 
like  the  material  just  kind  of  spreads  out  all 
over  the  area,  but  it  doesn't  have  a  hummocky 
appearance  to  it.     I'm  going  to  take  a  look  at 
that  again  when  I  come  back  -  on  back  around  on 
the  other  side.    There's  a  small  mound  down  in 
the  bottom  of  the  crater,  also.     It's  a  domical- 
shaped  structure  in  the  bottom  of  that  small  cra- 
ter.   It's  right  next  to  J3.    North  of  J3. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  Coming  in,  I  can  see  the  landing  site,  now  - 

quite  well.     The  appearance  of  the  slide  area 
definitely  shows  up.    The  South  Massif  seems  to 
have  the  Sun  shining  right  on  the  walls.  I'm 
looking  for  any  type  of  layering,  or  anything 
like  that.    And  can't  see  anything  that  -  that 
would  show  that  up.    The  big  difference  between 
the  massif  structures  and  the  Scxilptured  Hills  is 
that  the  massifs  look  like  they  are  a  steeper 
slope.    And  they  -  they  don't  seem  to  have  that 
type  of  covering  over  them,  like  the  Sculptured 
Hills  do. 

CMP  I'm  right  over  now.     The  scarp  definitely  cuts  up 

through  the  North  Massif.     I  can't  see  continuation 
on  into  the  South  Massif  at  all.    But,  you  can 
definitely  see  a  vertical  exaggeration  as  it  cuts 
on  around  up  over  the  North  Massif.    And  it's 
almost  -  I'd  have  to  take  another  look  at  it  for 
sure,  but  it  almost  looks  like  a  flow  coming  from 
Family  or  in  the  vicinity  -  in  the  direction  of 
Family  Mountain  -  but  from  the  direction  of  Fam- 
ily Moiintain  -  lapping  up  on  the  side  of  the  North 
Massif.    That's  the  way  it  looks  as  you  go  on  by 
it.     I  couldn't  see  anything  that  would  lead  you 
to  believe  that  the  slide  area,  so  to  speak,  would 
come  on  across  anything  that  would  be  the  source 


Tape  76b/ 5 


of  that  slide  area.     I  still  think  I  can  see  the  - 
one  spot  that  has  a  lighter  albedo  than  the  sur- 
rounding area  there  in  the  Pentagon  coinplex.  And 
it's  pretty  close  to  the  -  Let  me  get       chart  out 
here  and  taJte  a  look  at  it  again. 

Oh  18  16  50    CMP  No,  it  still  looks  like  that  area  that's  blown 

away  there  is  Dog  November  -  between  Dog  November 
and  Dog  Papa.    And  about  83. U  or  something  like 
that . 

ok  18  IT  07    CC  Copy. 

CMP  Yes,  Just  like  the  map  shows,  and  all  the  pictures, 

you've  got  a  definite  demarcation  in  the  annulus 
around  Serenltatis  here,  as  you  look  by  Sulpicius 
Gallus  area.    As  you  look  at  it  -  I'm  going  to 
have  to  take  another  check  on  it  -  but  the  dark 
annulus  looks  to  me  like  it's  raised  above  the 
mare,  proper,  itself.     I'll  check  that  a  little 
more  as  we  come  on  across. 

CMP  You  know  all  those  rilles  to  the  north  of  -  I 

mean  to  the  west  of  Sulpicius  Gallus.    There  is  a 
bunch  of  crisscrossing.    One  is  right  on  the  edge 
of  the  Serenitatis  basin  -  and  I  don't  remember 
the  name  of  that  crater,  I'll  have  to  look  it  up 
later  -  but  they've  got  slightly  raised  rims  around 
the  rilles.     You  can  see  some  layering  down  inside 
the  rille  itself,  in  the  east-west  and  the  one 
that  runs  in  the  east-west  direction. 

CC  Roger.     You're  talking  about  near  Menelaus? 

CMP  Yes,  I'll  have  to  look  on  the  map  and  see  for 

sure  what  the  crater  is,  but  there's  an  impact 
crater  right  on  the  edge  of  Serenitatis  basin  - 
right  on  the  terminator.    Right  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  then  those  rilles  are  Just  to  the  north  of 

that  crater. 

CC  Roger.     That's  probably  Menelaus  -  M-e-n-e-l-a-u-s  - 

Menelaiis . 


Tape  76B/6 


CMP  I  think  it  is. 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  Ron.  Is  The  PAJ^  CAMERA,  OFF?  T-stop  time. 
PAW  CAMERA  to  STAITOBY.    T-stop  time. 


CMP  Okay.    Is  it  now? 

CC  Roger.    You're  just  a  little  bit  past  it. 


Oh,  okay,  thank  you.     (Chuckle)    Okay,  PAH  CAMERA  - 
STAHDBY.    Thank  you.    That's  the  first  chance  I 
had  to  look  at  the  Moon,  you  know.    These  guys   


CC  Roger . 

CMP  -  -  let  me  look  at  the  windows, 


That's  all  right.  We  don't  mind  calling  you,  if 
you  don't  mind  getting  the  call. 


CMP  (Chuckle)    No,  not  in  the  least. 


Ron,  I'll  give  you  a  cue  here  shortly  for  PAN 
CAMERA  -  OFF.     I  just  want  you  to  know,  we  will 
not  be  retracting  the  mapping  camera;  and,  there- 
fore, we  will  not  be  closing  the  mapping  camera, 
laser  altimeter  cover.    But  we  will  be  dumping 
normally.  Over. 

Okay.    We're  going  to  dump  with  the  mapper  open, 
IS  what  you're  saying,  huh? 

That's  affirmative. 


CMP  Okay. 

CMP  You  know  it  looks  to  me  like  it  all  disappears 

anyhow.    It  just  kind  of  leaves  the  spacecraft. 
I  don't  think  ar^thing  comes  aroimd  or  even  sticks 
aroiand. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

Ok  18  22  03    CC  At  your  convenience,  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

CMP  You  have  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 


Tape  76b/ 7 


CC  Thaiik  you,  sir. 

CMP  Okay,  it's  orbital  science  photos  coming  up  here. 

Do  you  want  to  use  magazine  KK  still?    Or  should 
we  finish  up  Oscar  Oscar? 

CC  Stand  by,  Ron.    Checking  with  Tammy  on  that  one. 

CC  Ron,  they'd  like  you  to  use  mag  KK  on  that. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  While  you're  looking  at  the  Flight  Plan  there,  at 

117=20  where  that  mapping  camera  stuff  -  Just 
delete  mapping  camera,  retract;  and  mapping  cam- 
era, laser  altimeter  cover,  closed  at  117:15- 

CMP  Okay.    Delete  mapping  camera,  retract;  and  mapping 

camera,  laser  altimeter,  closed.  Okay. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Okay,  magazine  KK  is  starting  with  21  pictures. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

CMP  Okay .     Bob ,  if  -  would  you  give  me  a  call  when 

you  get  ready  for  that  mapping  camera  stuff?  I 
was  kind  of  shoved  off  this  morning,  and  I  got 
to  san^le  their  buses. 

CC  Yes.    Roger,  Ron.    We'll  give  you  a  call  -  first 

one  will  probably  be  a  pan  camera  call  here  shortly, 
and  then  I'll  call  you  when  it's  time  for  those 
^2  P^ge  line  heaters  -  things  like  that. 

Oh  18  26  20    CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF. 

Ok  18  28  22    CMP  Okay,  PAR  CAMERA  POWER  -  Let's  see.     PAN  CAMERA 

POWER  is  OFF. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

CMP  Good. 


Tape  76b/ 8 


CMP 

CC 
CC 

CMP 
CMP 


Oh  18  32  25  CMP 

Ok  l8  kl  05  CC 

CC 

CC 

CMP 

CC 

CMP 

CC 
CMP 

Ok  18  i+5  31  CMP 


Hey,  this  is  not  so  bad,,  if  you  think  of  iced  tea» 
I  guess. 

Roger . 

Just  for  your  information,  Ron.    Gene's  out  on 
the  surface  right  now. 

Oh,  they  are?    Hey,  great  I 

Did  they  confirm  my  position  yet? 

I  don't  -  Let  me  check  here  -  I  don't  think  we 
have  it  pinned  down  exactly.     You're  pretty  darn 
close  to  it.    That's  for  sure. 

You  know,  it's  funny.     It  wasn't  as  bright  -  That 
pass  over  -  This  last  pass  -  as  it  was  the  time 
before . 

I  hope  you  haven't  -  I  hope  you  haven't  spilled  any; 
and,  by  the  way,  LMP  is  on  the  surface  now,  too. 

America,  Houston.    You  can  go  with  the  H  0  PURGE 
HEATERS  now.  2 

America,  Houston. 

Houston,  America.    Go  ahead. 

Roger.     You  can  go  with  the        PURGE  LINE  HEATERS 
and  the  rest  of  that  Flight  Plan. 

Okay .    What  do  you  know?    The  PURGE  LINE  HEATERS 
have  been  ON. 

Roger.     We  kind  of  suspected  that- 

Okay.     (Laughter)    Okay.     Let's  see.  MAPPING 
CAMERA  can  come  OFF.    Thirty  seconds. 

Okay,  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  going  to  STANDBY.  IM 
PITCH  MOTION  is  OFF.     Altimeter  -  LASER  ALTIMETER  - 
is  OFF.    UV  is  OFF.    IR  is  OFF.    Okay,  UV  cover  - 
box,     UV  COVER  is  CLOSED;  barber  pole,  gray.  IR 
COVER  is  CLOSED;  barber  pole,  gray.    Okay,  MAP 
CAJpRA  LASER  ALTIMETER  -  we'll  leave  that  one  OPEN. 


) 


Tape  T6B/9 


CC  Good  show,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.     Then  it's  my  understanding  you  don't  want 

to  do  any  dumping  until  I  go  on  the  back  side  of 
the  Moon.    Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirm,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  According  to  the  Flight  Plan,  you  do  it  at  117:50. 

Right  about  that  time. 

CMP  Okay.     Will  do. 

Ok  18  1+8  23    CMP  Bob,  one  little  notice.    Supplies  I  had  this  morn- 

ing.   Might  made  notes,  so  I  wo\ildn't  forget  about 
it.     It  was  when  you  go  to  timnel  vent,  it  takes 
a  heck  of  a  long  time  to  vent  that  timnel.     In  the 
simulator  down  there,  you  go  to  tunnel  vent,  and 
it  flips  right  down  and  vents.     And  I  was  beginning 
to  wonder  if  it  -  if  it  was  leaking  or  something. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  As  it  turned  out,  as  it  t\irns  out,  it  worked  out 

all  right.     But  I  bet  it  took  a  good  10  minutes,  - 
to  get  up  to  3.5.    Before  I  could  turn  the  jets 
back  on,  you  know. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Go,  that's  ready  to  go. 

CC  Ron,  just  one  reminder  as  we  go  around  the  horn 

here.     The  waste  water  -  the  way  -  the  position 
it  is  in  will  probably  take  between  10  and  12  min- 
utes to  dump  it  completely.     Or  dump  it  to  yoiir 
10  percent  number. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  good.    Oh,  glad  I  don't  have  anybody 

watching  for  me  this  time.    Do  I? 

CC  Yes,  that's  right.    We  won't  be  able  to  call  you 

on  that.    When  it's  down  to  8  percent. 


Tape  76B/IO 


CMP  (Laughter)    Okay,  I'll  put  my  old  timer  on. 

CC  Hey,  Ron»  one  other  reminder.    We  know  it's  in  the 

Flight  Plan,  hut  you  may  get  real  husy  just  prior 
to  that  orbital  science  photos.    And  EECOM  woiild 
like  to  make  sure  you  get  the  H    purge  line  heaters 
off,  as  scheduled,  at  118:02. 

CMP  Okay.     Okay,  is  she  in  there?     Yes  -  it's  in  the 

Flight  Plan.  Okay. 

Ok  18  53  21    CC  Roger;  it's  in  the  Flight  Plan.    But  it's  just 

before  you're  going  to  get  busy  on  that  orbital 
science  photo.    You  might  of  -  you  might  go  to 
the  window  earlier  or  something. 


CMP 
CC 


CMP 


CC 


Okay.     It's  a  good  point. 

And  your  friends  out  on  the  surface  have  the 
Rover  out  now  and  -  starting  to  load  it  up  and 
getting  ready  to  check  it  out. 


CMP  Hey,  great  I 


CC 


The  surface  work  is  going  really  good.  They're 
J  list  a  little  bit  behind  the  time  line  from  their 
suiting-up  exercise.    But  it  doesn't  make  a  whole 
lot  of  difference. 

Uhuh.     Utiuh.     250  lens  on  that  thing. 

Ok  18  58  19    CC  Ron,  you're  5  minutes  to  LOS  here.    And  you're 

looking  real  good  all  around  the  room.     No  problems 
with  any  of  the  systems  that  we  can  see.  We'll 
see  it  at  ll8:29.    And  we'll  be  with  you  for 
another  5  minutes  here. 

CMP  118:29,  okay.    Okay,  we're  going  to  have  a  little 

grape  drink. 


Just  remember  what  Jan  says.  Don't  spill  it  on 
your  flight  suit. 


CMP  (Laughter)  Right. 


Tape  76b/ 11 


CMP  Did  I  miss  lianch?    Or  wasn't  I  supposed  to  get  any 

lunch  today? 

CC  I  don't  knov,  that  wasn't  on  my  shift.    But  if 

you're  hungry,  why  don't  you  eat  something? 

CMP  (Laughter)    That's  what  I'm  doing, 

CC  It's  been  a  long  time  since  lunch   

CMP  I'm  nibbling. 

CMP  Yes.     Long  time  since  breakfast,  I  think,  wasn't 

it? 


CC  Yes,  I  think  it  was.    And  you  got  about  h  more 

hours  until  scheduled  eat  time.    So  -  you  got 
some  lunar  sounder  work  there  -  and  about  II9  or 
so,  so  you  might  as  well  consider  eating  a  lot. 

CMP  Yes,  I  could  eat  dinner.     I'm  kind  of  nibbling  a 

little  bit. 

CC  Just  want  to  make  sure  you  don't  lose  your  scissors, 

too. 

CMP  Yes.    This  time  I  got  them  snapped  to  the  hand 

controller  and  stuck  in  the  little  thing  around 
it,     I  don't  know  how  I've  lost  those  things. 

CC  Roger . 


CMP 


CC 


I  didn't  like  that  big  string  on  there  all  the 
time.     I  didn't  like  that  big  string  getting  all 
over  the  place.     So  I  rolled  the  string  on  the 
strap,  and  stuck  the  scissors  in  that  little 
bungee  that's  on  the  hand  controller.    I  woke  up 
the  next  morning  and  they're  gone.     I  still  think 
it's  behind  the  optics. 

Just  don't  go  look  at  them;  okay?  We'll  find  them 
pre  -  postf light.  Okay? 


CMP  Okay. 


Tape  T6B/12 


Hey,  Ron.     I  don't  know  what  Tommy  has  against 
you,  hut  they  just  never  scheduled  an  eat  period 
in  here.    We  checked  this  out  so  thorovighly  that, 
we  forgot  to  check  it  to  see  if  there  was  an  eat 
period  in  there. 


CMP 


We  prohably  weren't  hungiy  when  we  checked  it  out. 


Oh  19  00  5h    CC  Roger. 


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Okay.  The  LMP  has  got  the  RCU  connected  to  the  PLSS. 
Copy  that.  Jack.  . 

Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  get  on  the  PLSS,  now. 
Okay,  Geno.     Copy  that. 
Sublimator  exhausts . 

Okay,  Bob.     I've  got  my  PLSS  on.    We're  picking  it 
up  with  verifying  the  powerdown  configuration  on 
the  upper  right-hand  corner. 

Roger •     Copy  that . 

Circuit  breakers  are  configured, 

Houston  copies . 

Okay,  I'm  in  VOX.  VOX  SENSITIVITY  is  MAX,  A  is  T/R 
and  B  is  RECEIVE.  Okay.  You  can  open  your  breaker 
and  connect  to  the  PLSS  comm.  Houston,  I  guess  you 
heard  that . 

That's  affirm.     Loud  and  clear. 

...  just  AUDIO  breaker.     Your  AUDIO  breaker,  that's 
all.    Want  some  help  with  that? 

Yes.     Do  it  while  you're  facing  that  way.  Just 
hang  them  up.     Got  time  to  do  it.     All  you've  got 
is  water. 

Okay,  Bob.     We're  getting  Jack  up  on  PLSS  cornm, 
and  we'll  be  picking  it  up  -  the  coram  check  here  on 
left-hand  column  of  the  bottom  sheet. 

Roger.    We're  following  you. 

Okay.    You're  on  and  locked.    Okay,  and  you  got  the 
cover?     Okay.     Your  AUDIO  breaker,  CLOSED.  Okay, 
on  your  PLSS  PTT  go  MAIN;  that's  right. 


Tape  77A/2 


CDR-LM 

Oh  17  hj  16  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oi+  17  1+7  20  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

OU  17  1+7  23  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  17  ii7  32  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  17  1+7  1+0  LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay.     PLSS  MODE  A. 
A. 

Okay;  tone  ON;  VENT  flag,  P. 

Got  a  weak  tone  and  a  VENT  flag,  P. 

Okay . 

Got  a  good  tone  right  now. 
PRESS  flag,  0;  and  0^  -  - 
...  0  and  -  - 

-  -  momentarily . 

-  -  0^  still  there. 

Okay,  PLSS  0^   

It's  on. 

What's  your  PLSS  0^  pressure  gage? 
The        "  - 

Give  Houston  a  call  and  give  it  to  them. 

I'm  reading  100  percent,  Houston. 

Roger,  Jack.    And  we're  reading  you  slightly 
garbled  but  loud. 

Okay.    Well,  you're  loud  and  clear.  Bob. 

Okay,  Jack.     You  got  that,  and  I'm  reading  you. 
How  you  reading  me? 

Loud  and  clear. 

Okay.  We  will  not  unstow  the  antenna.  You  are  a 
skosh  garbled,  but  very  readable. 


Tape  TTA/3 


GDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ol+  IT  1+9  37  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ok  17  h9  39  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ok  17  k9  k3  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ok  IT  k9  k-J  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

ok  IT  k9  53  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ol+  IT  k9  59  CDR-LM 

Ok  IT  50  06  CC 
Ok  IT  50  13  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


Okay.  Stay  where  you  are.  I'm  going  to  get  mine. 
Okay.     AUDIO  breaker  is  - 


B. 

Okay.     I  got  a  tone. 

VENT  flag,  P. 

I  got  a  VENT  flag,  P. 

PRESSURE  flag  and  0^,  momentarily. 

PRESSURE  flag,  and  I  still  got  an  0^  flag. 

Off  with  your  tone. 

Okay.     The  tone  is  gone.    The  0^  flag  cleared. 
Okay.    PLSS  0^  PRESS  quantity. 
Okay;  and  I'm  reading  10  percent. 
Okay. 

Okay.    Note  crewman  in  MODE  B,  that's  me,  cannot 
hear  Houston.     Houston,  "broadcasting  in  the  blind 
100  percent  on  the  CDR. 

Roger,  CDR.     Houston  reads  you  loud  and  clear. 
I  read  you  loud  and  clear.  Gene.     ...  me? 
I'm  reading  you  loud  and  clear. 
Okay. 

Give  me  a  call  again. 

Okay.    How  do  you  read.  Gene?    1,  2,  3,  k,  5- 


Tape  T7A/U 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ok  IT  50  32  LMP-LK 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
IMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

MP-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 
CC 

Ok  IT  51  19  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


Give  me  again. 
1,  2,  3,  k,  5. 

I  think  so.     I  can't  -  Okay.     I'm  reading  you. 
Okay.     PLSS.     LMP  go  B. 

Going  B. 

Try  that.  B  ...  A.  Okay.  How  do  you  read  me. 
Jack . 

You're  loud  and  clear,  and  I  got  a  tone. 
Okay.     Give  me  a  short  count  once. 
Starting.     1,  2,  3,  U,  5. 


You're  great. 

Okay.  I  had  a  tone,  too.  I  still  got  a  PRESSURE 
and  a  VENT  flag. 

And,  Houston,  how  do  you  read  the  LMP? 

Roger,  LMP.    We  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

Okay,  Bob.     I'm  reading  you  loud  and  clear,  and 
he's  not  reading  you  in  this  mode.     How  me? 

I  read  you  loud  and  clear  also.  Gene. 

Very,  very,  good.     We're  hoth  going  AR ,  now. 

Let's  go. 

Okay.  Ought  to  get  a  tone.  I  didn't,  but  my  VENT 
flag  did  clear. 

Here  it  is . 

Tone  and  a  VENT  flag. 

...  my  tone  and  -  VENT  flag . 


Tape  7TA/5 


CDR-LM 

CC 

Oh  IT  51  52  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ol+  IT  52  l6  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  IT  52  30  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  1?  52  33  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  17  52  36  LMP-LM 


Okay,  Jack.    The  wheel  is  Houston  and  the  hlade  is 
me.     Hello,  there;  Houston.     How  are  you  reading 
CDR? 

Read  CDR  loud  and  clear.  And,  for  your  information, 
your  TM  on  the  PLSSs  looks  good. 

Okay.    Let's  go. 

How  do  you  read,  Houston?    This  is  the  IMP. 

Houston  reads  LMP  loud  and  clear  now.     You're  much 
clearer  than  you  were  before.  Jack. 

Very  good. 

Okay.    Jack,  we  gave  them  our  quantities  already; 
so,  SQUELCH,  VHF  B  LMP,  FULL  DECREASE. 

SQUELCH  B  is  to  FULL  DECREASE,  huh? 

That's  affirm. 

Okay.     It's  FULL  DECREASE. 

Okay.     On  60 ,  leave  that  PUMP  breaker  CLOSED. 
Okay. 

Oh,  that's  cold;  but  that's  good.     Okay.     On  l6, 
ECS,  CABIN  REPRESS,  CLOSED. 

Okay.     It's  -  Is  that  a  verify? 

That's  a  verify. 

Okay.     It's  CLOSED. 

SUIT  FAN  DELTA-P,  OPEN. 

Okay.     DELTA-P  is  OPEN. 

And  SUIT  FAN  number  2,  OPEN. 

2 ' s  open . 


Tape  T7A/6 


Oh  IT  52  38  CDR-LIvi 


Oh  17  52  57  LMP-LK 
CMP-LM 

OU  17  53  03  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  IT  53  07  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  17  53  21  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Oh  17  53  26  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
U'^P-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 


Okay.     And  I've  got  SUIT  FAH  number  2.     There's  a 
MASTER  ALARM.     Okay.     And  I  heard  it  run  dovn. 
Okay.     I  don't  see  a  -  No,  there's  not  an  ECS 
caution  until  that  thing  rujis  down  -  about  a  minute 
or  so.    We'll  watch  for  that.     Okay;  SUIT  GAS 
DIVERTER,  PULL-EGRESS. 

Okay.     DIVERTER  is  PULL-EGRESS. 

CABIN  GAS  RETURN,  EGRESS. 

TURN  [sic]  is  EGRESS. 

SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF,  AUTO. 

RELIEF  is  AUTO. 

Okay.     OPS  CONNECT.     You  ready? 
Yes  . 

Okay.     SUIT  ISOL,  ACTIVATE  OVERRIDE. 
Okay .     OVERRIDE . 

Okay,     Disconnect  your  LM  0^  hoses. 
Okay.     LM  0^  hoses  are  disconnected. 
Okay.     And  they're  stowed,  right? 
Right. 

Okay.     Connect  OPS  0^  hose  to  PGA,  blue  to  blue. 
Okay.     Where  is  it? 

Okay.     It's  sticking  -  right  -  Turn  around.  No, 
that ' s  not  right . 

No,  that's  the  water. 

Could  you  turn  towards  me  a  little  bit?     Tiirn  to  the 
left.     There  you  are,  because  I  got   ...     Okay.  Here 
it  comes  -  right  here.     OPS  hose  under  it  now. 
Right  here. 


Tape  TTA/T 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
IT  5I+  19  CDR-LM 


Oh  17  3k  37  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

OI+  17  5^  50  CDR-LM 

Ok  17  55  03  LMP-LM 
Oil  17  55  06  CDR-LM 


Here  it  is. 

Let  me  get  it.     I'll  get  it  -  I'll  get  it  under 
your  electrical  cable. 

Guess  you're  going  to  want  a  purge  valve  in  a  minute. 
Okay.    That  is  locked  in  the  lock  lock. 
Move  your  arm. 

This  is  ...     Could  you  do  that? 

I  will  in  a  second. 

Move  your  arm.     I  can't  see. 

Okay. 

Okay.    We're  right  here.    Okay.     And  I'm  going  to 
connect  OPS  hose  to  put  it  blue  to  blue,  retrieve 
PURGE  valve .     Let  me  give  you  ptirge  valve ,  and  I '  11 
pick  that  up.  Jack.    The  cockpit's  just  as  small  as 
the  mockup.     Okay.     Here  you  are.     You  verify  it's 
in  LOW,  LOW. 

Okay.     It's  in  LOW. 

Slip  to  the  right  just  a  skosh. 

Yes;  slipped  it  to  the  right  Just  a  skosh. 

Oh,  it's  -  man,  that's  easy. 

( Laughter )    Whee  . 

Okay.  Pin's  installed.  And  I  might  be  an  iceberg 
when  I  get  out  there,  but  it's  going  to  feel  good. 

Okay.     It's  in. 

Okay.  My  PURGE  valve's  LOW,  locked,  and  the 
pin's  in.  Want  some  help  with  that?  I  want 
to  take  a  look  at  it. 


Tape  TTA/8 

Oh  17  55  18    LMP-LM      There's  the  old  MASTER  ALARM. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    That  should  be  the  WATER  SEP. 

LMP-LM      Yes . 

CDR-LM      It's  on. 

LMP-LM      Yes.     It's  harely  on. 

CDR-LM     You're  going  to  have  to  push  my  lock  lock  down. 

LMP-LM      I'll  get  it. 

CDR-LM      I  don't  know  why,  but  - 

LMP-LM  Why  don't  you  check  mine,  too.  That's  it.  I'm 
going  to  have  to  check  you  anyway.  Let  me  turn 
this  way. 

CDR-LM  Okay, 

Ok  17  55  56    LMP-LM     That's  why;  because  it  wasn't  locked. 

CDR-LM      Is  that  where  you  want  it;  facing  down  or  in? 
You  don ' t  want  it  there ,  do  you? 

LMP-LM  No,  I  don't  want  it  there.  Must  have  had  it  in 
the  wrong  -  ...    Thank  you . 

CDR-LM      Is  that  where  you  want  it? 

LMP-LM      Yes . 

CDR-LM     Okay.     It's  there. 
LMP-LM  Good. 

Ok  17  56  ik    CDR-LM      The  lock  lock  is  down  and  it's  verified  LOW  and  the 

pin  still  is  in.    Okay.     Look  at  mine  while  you'ro 
there . 

Oh  17  56  25    LMP-LM     Okay.     It's  safe  and  in.    Lock's  in  and  rides  [?] 

low.     Pin's  in;  it's  good. 


Tape  77A/9 


CDR-LM      Okay.     Let  me  get  my  -  this  thing  right  here.  Reach 
that  hose  for  me  under  my  arm. 

LMP-LM      Put  it  under  the  electrical  cable. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      I  think  that'll  be  better,  isn't  it? 
CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      ...  and  lock.    Verify  lock  lock. 
Oh  IT  56  56    CDR-LM  Lock. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     And  the  cover  is  going  on. 
LMP-LM  Okay. 

UfP-LK      Look  pretty  good  under  that 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM      Yes.     That's  right. 
CDR-LM  Good. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    You're  covered.    Okay.     I  think  we're  getting 
to  our  favorite  part  here.     (Laughter)     Okay.  PURGE 
valves  are  installed  on  both.     PGA  DIVERTER  VALVE; 
put  it  vertical. 

ok  IT  5T  ho    IMP-LM      Okay.     It's  vertical. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  commander  repeat  -  that's  done.     Drink  -  Let's 
take  a  drink  then  close  the  descent  water. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      My  ...  is  already  prepared.     And  drink  and  position 
mikes . 

LMP-LM     Oh,  those  little  ...  covers  are  next.  Okay. 


Tape  T7A/10 


CDR-Lf4 

Oh  17  58  19  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

Olt  17  58  31+  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 
OU  17  59  05  CC 

LMP-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 


Had  enough  water  today;  they  could  -  you  could  say 
you  discovered  me.     I'm  water  on  the  Moon,  Okay." 
Let's  turn  the  descent  water  off,  and  let's  stow 
this . 

Okay.     WATER  is  going  OFF.     DESCENT  WATER  is  OFF. 
Okay.    And  it's  -  Man,  is  it  -  Okay. 
Position  your  mike. 
Okay;  mikes  are  good. 

Top  of  the  page.  Okay,  Before  we  turn  the  fans 
on,  let's  make  sure  we've  got  -  all  I  got  hooked 
here  is  the  water.  Those  cables  are  all  stowed. 
They're  not  in  your  way,  are  they? 

No,  not  in  my  way. 

Pretty  good. 

. . .  though . 

Do  you  want  to  put  -  put  this  around  them? 
Yes. 

That's  probably  a  little  bit  better.  ... 
17,  Houston.  Over. 
Go  ahead,  Houston. 

Roger.    We're  still  seeing  the  commander's  SUIT 
DISCOBNECT  VALVES  in  CONNECT. 

How's  that? 

Yes,  there  it  goes.    We  got  it.     Thank  you. 

Okay,  Bob.     Okay.     We  got  to  get  the  PLSS  fan  on. 
Don't  forget  that's  battery  power.    We  can  don  our 
helmets ,  check  our  drink  bags ,  don  our  LEVAs  ,  pro- 
tective visors,  secure  our  tool  harness.    Our  0 
umbilicals  are  already  stowed.  ^ 


Tape  7TA/11 


0"+  17  59  38  CDR-LM 

Oh  IT  59  5h  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ok  18  00  11  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


CDR's  under  the  handhold.    Verify  the  following. 
Now,  where  we  pick  up  our  - 

Have  to  put  the  helmets  on,  I  think. 

Okay,  yes.    Then  we  pick  up  our  gloves. 

I  reckon. 

Yes,  there  it  is.    Okay.    Well,  let's  do  one  at  a 
time  here . 

That ' s  mine . 

That ' s  yours . 

Okay.    Do  you  want  to  turn  your  fan  on  for 
circulation? 

Well,  I  guess  I  better.    Pan's,  on. 

Now  pull  this  out  just  to  get  it  out  of  your  way? 

Okay. 

Okay.    Okay.     All  your  candy  bars,  and  lemonade, 
and  all  that  jazz  are  all  clear.    Water,  I  should 
say. 

That  sounded  good. 

Okay.    Try  it.     Okay.     It  looks  good  here.  Jack. 
Okay.    And  what's  your  LEVA? 

Okay. 

Enjoy  it  in  there;  you're  going  to  be  in  there  for 
a  few  hours . 

Can't  think  of  any  place  I'd  rather  be  right  now. 

Sounds  like  you're  in  there,  too.  Darn,  too  far 
back.  Okay,  that's  better.  I'm  freezing  my  you 
know  what  off. 


LMP-LM      Me,  too.  (Laughter) 


Tape  7TA/12 


CDR-LM      Okay.     Does  that  look  lined  up  to  you? 
LMP-LM      Looks  pretty  good. 

CDR-LM     Okay.     Let  me  -  Wait  a  minute.     Let  me  get  this 
down  around  -  Okay.     That's  around  behind  you; 
thermally  protected  hack  there.     That's  below  the 
OPS  hose. 

LMP-LM      Right  now,  I'm  hoping  to  get  out  of  this  warm. 
(Laughter) 

CDR-LM     Okay.     You're  thermally  -  Let  me  double  check  that. 

The  helmet  is  locked.    Your  visor  is  locked.  It's 
one  thing  you  don't  want  to  lose  among  some  others. 
Okay.     Okay.    You  want  to  give  me  a  hand? 

LMP-LM      Not  particularly.  (Laughter) 

Oh  18  02  15    CDR-LM     Oh,  man.    Where  did  that  come  from? 

LMP-LM     Watch  your  nose,  drink  bag,  candy  bars,  popcorn. 
Click,  click,  click. 

CDR-LM  Breathe  hard  back  there. 

LMP-LM  Want  your  fan? 

CDR-LM  Yes . 

LMP-LM  Looks  good . 

CDR-LM  Okay.     I  can  hear  the  fan  running.     Oh,  man,  whew! 

Ok  18  03  23    CDR-LM  Looks  good  here. 

LMP-LM  Yes.    That's  all  right. 

CDR-LM  Steady  ... 

LMP-LM  New;  never  been  used  before. 

CDR-LM  Make  sure  that  flap  in  back  goes  below  that  OPS  hose. 

LMP-LM  Want  to  put  your  protective  visor  down? 

CDR-LM  Yes,  if  you  got  that  thing  all  -  You  got  it  all  done? 


Tape  77A/13 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

ok  18  05  27  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


Yes. 

You  happy  with  it  back  there? 

Yes,  sir.     You're  nice  and  protected.     Okay.  Good 
Velcro . 

Okay.    You're  all  covered  here. 
Okay. 

Not  my  other  one  is  it?  No. 
No. 

Okay.     Ohhh!     I  think  we've  got  to  get  two  harnesses 
here.     Don  LEVAs.     Look  at  that  scratch  right  in  the 
middle  of  that  thing.    Okay.    Don  LEVAs  and  lower 
protective  visor. 

Okay.     Secure  harness  and  self  doff  straps. 
Okay.     Stay  where  you  are. 
Can't  miss  it. 

Okay.    Stow  LM  0^  -  the  LM  0^.     And  comm.  Okay. 
They're  all  stowed;  everything  except  water,  right? 

Okay.    Verify  the  following.     Check  your  helmet 
and  visor. 

Okay.    You  check  me.    I'll  read  them.    Helmet  and 
visor,  aligned  and  locked. 

Okay.     That's  locked. 

Okay.    Og,  cover  is  all  locked.     There's  a  ... 
That's  locked. 

Purge  valve;  everything  down  there. 
That's  locked;  that's  locked. 
Comm  CEirrier. 
Stand  hy.    That's  locked. 


Tape  77A/li+ 


CDR-LM      Okay.    DIVERTER  VALVE  is  vertical. 

LMP-LM      Comm  is  that  way.     DIVERTER  VALVE  is  vertical. 

CDR-LM  Okay.  One  more  time.  Your  helmet  is  locked,  purge 
valve,  locked.  Yes.  That's  locked;  that's  locked; 
that's  locked.  And,  let  me  see  -  let  me  see.  Sure 
and  that's  locked. 

LMP-LM  Don't  let  anything  to  chance, 

CDR-LM  Today? 

LMP-LM  And  the  DIVERTER  VALVE  is  vertical. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     Comm,  you  check,  too. 

LMP-LM  Yes,  sir. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Verify  your  old  white  dots. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    Old  white  dots.    My  old  white  dots  -  Can 
you  manage  to  move  a  little? 

CDR-LM      Yes,  I'll  move. 

LMP-LM     Okay.    Got  it. 


CDR-LM 


I'm  going  to  miss  Danny  being  out  there  to  hand  us 
those  light  PLSSs . 


LMP-LM      That's  right, 


CDR-LM 


You  want  -  Okay.  I  want  the  EVA  decals ,  also. 
Jack. 


LMP-LM  Yes,  white  dots  plus  decals. 

CDR-LM  Roger.     Okay,  Boh,  we're  turning  the  page. 

CC  Roger.    We're  right  with  you. 

Oh  18  07  31    CDR-LM  Okay;  don  EV  gloves. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    Is  that  it? 


CDR-LM 


That's  it.  Don  EV  gloves.  Do  a  little  grease  in 
here. 


Tape  llA/l'^ 


CDR-LM     And  make  sure  your  wrist  locks  are  locked.  Glove 
straps  adjusted  and  cover  the  wrist  rings.  Golly. 

0^+  18  08  ih    CDR-LM      I  sure  missed  heading  it  click,  but  they  axe  locked. 

One  of  them  is,  anyway.    Hey,  Jack.    I  verify  -  - 


LMP-LM  ( Laught er ) 

CDR-LM  What? 

LMP-LM  Guess  what? 

CDR-LM  They  don't  go  on  any  easier  in  one-sixth  g,  do  they? 

LMP-LM  They  break  just  as  easily,  too. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  I've  got  my  one  glove  locked.    One  of  them  - 
one  of  the  old  fist  covers. 

LMP-LM  I  never  had  that  happen  in  training;  you  did. 


CDR-LM      It's  locked  -  that's  about  as  locked  as  it  can  go. 

Boy,  I'd  hate  like  the  devil  to  have  that  pop  open. 
Okay;  that's  very  good.    You  want  me  to  help  you  with 
one,  or  can  you  get  it? 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  don't  know.     I've  only  worked  on  one  so  far. 

CDR-LM      I've  got  a  free  hand  before  I  grease  it  up. 

Ok  18  09  17    LMP-LM      I  broke  that  one. 

CDR-LM      I'm  telling  you,  from  the  looks  of  that  soil  out 
there,  that  drill  may  have  a  job  ahead  of  it. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  I  didn't  have  a  chance  to  mention  that.     I  don't 
think  the  regolith  is  very  thick,  and  I  think  you've 
got  rocks  below  it . 

CDR-LM  You  got  that? 

LMP-LM  Vfell,  how  does  it  look? 

CDR-LM  Let  me  take  a  look.  No. 

LMP-LM  Didn't  make  it,  huh? 


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CDR-LM  Yes,  well,  let  me  -  Hold  your  hand  up  here.  Hold 
it  up  here. 

CDR-LH  Looks  good  on  my  side.    How  is  yoTir  side? 

LMP-LM  Good  over  here. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Let  me  pull  this  one  out  for  you. 

oh  18  10  08    LMP-LM  Okay.    Thank  you. 

CDR-LM  Get  the  old  other  hand. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    That's  locked. 

LMP-LM  And  mine  -  other  glove  is  locked. 

CDR-LM  How  for  the  fun  in  "back  (laughter)  . 

CDR-LM  Oh,  me;  oh,  my. 

LMP-LM  I  think  I  got  it.     I  think  I  got  it. 

oh  18  11  37    LMP-LM  Pull  it  and  let  go.     Isn't  that  the  word? 

CDR-LM  That's  what  they  tell  me.    Want  me  to  get  it? 

LMP-LM  I  got  mine  -  No,  I  got  it. 

CDR-LM  Verified  your's  locked? 

LMP-LM  Yes,  sir. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Both  n^r  gloves  are  verified  locked.  How 
does  that  grah  you? 

LMP-LM  Okay;  feels  good. 

CDR-LM  Is  your  air  on  tight  enough?    Checklist  on  tight 
enough? 

CDR-LM  That's  the  hest  I  can  do;  I  guess. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    Now  what? 

ok  18  12  22    CDR-LM  Wrist  rings  are  covered.     Note  if  PGA  Taiting. 

No,  mine's  all  right.    Your's  okay? 


Tape  7TA/1T 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ok  18  12  k2  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LI^P-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Ok  18  13  27  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


No;  it's  fine. 

Okay.  LGC  cold's  required.  We  been  on  cold  all  this 
time,  right? 

Yes. 

Okay.    Guess  you  can  open  that  breaker,  and  I'll 
stop  shivering.  (Laughter) 

Okay. 

And,  we  can  disconnect  the  LM  water  hoses.  Let's 
help  each  other  with  those,  so  we  don't  screw  up 
the  other  hoses . 

Okay;  breaker's  open. 

Okay. 

Let  me  turn  around  this  way. 

Okay.     Go  ahead  and  I'll  - 

Okay.    You  want  to  get  mine  or  you  -  - 

No,  I'll  get  yours. 

Okay. 

Okay.     First  of  all  I'm  going  to  take  that  off. 
Okay.    Now  let  me  get  your  other  one.     There  it  is. 
Okay.    We  did  this  before.     Stand  right  there.  It's 
locked.  Jack. 

Okay.    It  is  locked. 

Get  the  cover  on.     Okay.    The  cover  is  on. 
Okay.     Yovors  off? 

Get  that  in  a  second.     Okay.     Yours  is  just  laying 
there,  too. 

Okay.     Hang  on. 

Okay.  I'll  push  towards  you.  Make  sure  that  thing 
falls  in  the  hole,  because  yours  didn't  right  away. 


Tape  7TA/18 


CDE-LM     Did  it  fall  in? 
LMP-LM     Yes  -yes,  it's  in  the  hole. 
CDR-LM     Okay.    Wrist  cover  on. 
LMP-LM     Wrist  cover's  on. 

CDR-M      And  my  PGA  is  going  to  start  biting  here  if  we  don't 
get  going. 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Yes.     Okay  -  okay  -  PLSS  to  the   

I've  got  to  turn  my  oxygen  on  a  second.  Jack. 
LMP-LM      Yes,  so  do  I. 
LMP-LM     That's  that.    There  it  is. 
CDR-LM     Okay.    It's  on. 

CDR-LM     A  little  hard  to  get  it  off,  isn't  it. 
LMP-LM      Yes . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Mine  is  back  off. 
LI*1P-LM      Yes,  mine  is. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     PLSS  DIVERTER  VALVE,  MIN;  verify. 
Oil  18  Ih  56    LMP-LM      Okay.    Mine's  MIN. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    PLSS  PUMP,  ON;  that's  to  the  right.  PRES- 
SURE REGs  A  and  B,  EGRESS. 

LMP-LM      I  think  we're  already  at  EGRESS. 

CDR-LM     Pump's  on. 

LMP-LM     We're  in  EGRESS. 

Okay,  n^sr  PUMP  is  on.     I  can  feel  it  running. 


CDR-LM 


LMP-LM     Keep  talking. 


CDR-LM 


Pressure  integrity  check.  Okay.  PLSS  0  ON.  You 
ready  for  this?  ^ 


Tape  11 A/ 19 


LMP-LM  I  hope  so. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     PLSS  0^  ON. 

LMP-LM  Mine's  on. 

CDR-LM  PRESSURE  flag  and  0^  flag  clear,  3.1  to  3.h. 

oh  l8  15  38    LMP-LM  Okay.     I'm  coming  up.     I  know  that. 

CDR-LM  Gee,  it's  10  minutes  to  6  at  home. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Okay.     I'm  still  coming  up,  coming  up. 

CDR-LM  Keep  coming  up.    Just  got  mine  on. 

LMP-LM  Oh,  okay.    Well,  I'm  ahead  of  you  then. 

CDR-LM     Yes.    Okay.    The  PRESS  flag  will  clear  3T  - 
correction  -  3.1  to  3.'+. 

LMP-LM     What  do  you  want  me  to  do  when  I 'm  pressurized? 

CDR-LM     We'll  want  to  make  an  integrity  check. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  hut  then  what? 

CDR-LM      Can  you  reach  those  water  hoses  right  there?  By 
chance  hefore  you  get  too  hard? 

LMP-LM     Throw  them  out  of  the  way? 

oil  18  l6  25    CDR-LM     Okay.    When  you  get  -  when  you  get  up  -  Okay.  A 

PRESS  flag  cleared  on  the  conmiander.  Okay.  The 
Og  flag  did  not  clear.    I'm  at  3  -  B  -  Okay.  0^ 

flag  cleared  on  the  commander. 
LMP-LM      Still  got  an  0^  on  the  LMP. 
CDR-LM     Okay,  you're  not  up  yet;  I  suppose. 
LMP-LM      Wo . 

0^4  l8  l6  58    CDR-LM     Okay.     I'm  going  to  take  my  PLSS  0^  OFF  for  1  - 

counting  1  minute,  57.  Let  me  know  when  you're  up. 
Jack,  and  I'll  give  you  a  minute  hand. 


Tape  77A/20 


LMP-LM      Okay.     I'm  clear. 
CDR-LM     Okay.    You  up? 
LMP-LM     Yes . 


CDR-LM 


You  can  turn  your  PLSS  0^  OFF  any  time.     Let  me 

know  when.  Can  you  reach  it?  If  you  can't,  I'll 
get  it  for  you. 


LMP-LM  Why  don't  you  get  it. 

CDR-LM  Okay.  Okay. 

Oh  18  17  3k    CDR-LM  MARK  it. 

IjMP-LM  Okay . 


CDR-LM 


You're  on  the  30-second  mark,  and  I'm  on  the  minute 
mark. 


LMP-LM     Okay,  and  I'm  at  3.8. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     I'll  give  you  a  hack  on  it.. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     I'm  coming  up  on  1+5  seconds. 

Olll8  18  01    CDR-LM      Okay.     I 'm  1  minute ;  going  back  on.     Okay,  Houston, 

Commander  went  from  3.8  to  about  3.67.     I'll  get 
yours  on  when  you  need  it  on.  Jack. 

CC  I  copy  that.  Commander. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    And  we'll  pick  Jack  up  here  in  about  10 
more  seconds. 

CC  Okay. 

Ok  18  18  31    CDR-LM  Okay,  Jack.     I'm  turning  on.     Did  you  mark  it? 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Houston;  3.8  to  3.6. 

LMP-LM  Hello,  Houston;  you  copy  the  LMP? 

CC  Roger.     Copy  the  LMP.     Okay;  and  Challenger  -  - 


Tape  7TA/21 


CDR-LM 
GC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

OU  .18  19  16  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

oh  18  19  25  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


Okay.     Standing  by  for  your  GO  for  depress. 

You'll  be  glad  to  know  you  are  GO  for  depress. 

Thank  you,  Robert.     I  understand  we  are  GO  for 
depress . 

That's  affirm. 

Okay,  Jack.     Can  you  reach  the  front  valve,  or  do 
you  want  me  to? 

Well ,  let  me  tiirn  around  here . 

Okay,  on  16  -  first  around,  on  I6,  CABIIT  REPRESS, 
OPEN. 

Okayi  16:  CABIH  REPRESS,  OPEN.  Circuit  breaker  is 
op  -  coming  open. 

Okay,  and  CAEIW  REPRESS  valve,  CLOSED  on  the  panel. 
Okay.     The  valve  is  closed. 

Okay.     If  you  can't  reach  it,  I  guess  I  can. 
Okay.     I  just  had  a  momentary  tone. 
So  did  I.    I  got  it,  too. 
Okay. 

I  think  it  was  when  you  closed  the  REPRESS  valve. 

Can  you  reach  it?  If  not  I'll  reach  your  overhead 
one. 

I  think  you  better  reach  your  overhead  one. 
Okay.    Slip  over  to  your  right. 
Some  more? 

Let  me  turn  here.    Wait  a  minute,  I  got  turned. 

Okay.  How  far  down  are  we  going  to  take  it?  3.5, 
right? 


Tape  77A/22 


CDR-LM     Yes,  wait  a  minute.     I'm  not  there  yet. 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  Just  want  to  make  sure  that  I'm  watching. 

CDR-LM     Okay;  now. 

oh  18  20  18    CDR-LM      Okay,  coming  open.    You  ready?    You  reading  the 

checklist? 

LMP-LM     Stand  by  AUTO.     REPRESS  is  CLOSED. 

CDR-LM     Say  when. 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM     You  ready? 

LMP-IM     Wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute. 
CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Got  the  wrong  place.    OPEN,  then  AUTO  at  3.5-  Okay; 
go  ahead. 

Ok  18  20  37    CDR-LM      Okay.     Here  it  comes.     I  can  see  daylight  through 

it. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  ifs  coining  down.    Okay.    That's  h  -  Stand 

Oh  18  20  53    LMP-LM     MARK.  3.5- 

CDR-LM      Okay.     It's  off. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    And  your  cuff  gage  should  not  be  below  h.6, 
and  mine's  at  5  -  mine's  at  5.0. 

CDR-LM      One?  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay,     The  suit  circuit  is  locked  up  at  U. 5.  We're 
at  3.5  and  holding. 

CDR-LM      And  I'm  decaying. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    I'm  below  5. 

CDR-LM      So  am  I. 


Tape  77A/23 


LMP-LM 

Ol+  18  21  32  LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

Ok  18  21  kl  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

Ok  18  22  09  LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

Ok  18  23  05  CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 


Verify  that;  okay. 

Okay.    I'll  start  my  watch. 

Okay.    We  verify  and  we're  coiinting. 

Watches  staorted. 

Okay.    OVERHEAD  or  FORWARD  DUMP  VALVE,  OPEN. 
Okay.    Here  it  comes. 
And  it's  going  down. 

You  going  to  want  me  to  put  this  in  AUTO  afterwards 
or  not?    So,  I  can  turn  around,  Jack. 

Stand  hy. 

. .  .  open  -  - 

-  -  leave  it  open. 
Leave  it  open. 

No,  we  don't,  because  then  we  don't  want  that  hatch 
to  get  closed. 

You  got  to  turn  around  here.     Oh,  boy! 

Boy,  you  sure  get  heavy  at  5,  don't  you?  Okay. 
Where  are  we?    Right  here,  huh?    What  that  was  - 

What's  cabin.  Jack. 

Do  you  read.  Jack? 

Jack,  this  is  Houston. 

Wait  a  minute. 

CDR,  we're  not  reading  the  IMP  either. 
Now,  how  do  you  read? 


Tape  77A/2i» 


CC  We  read  you  -  - 

CDR-M     Now,  how  do  you  read.  Jack? 

LMP-m      Okay.     You're  loud  and  clear.  Okay. 

LMP-LM     We  got  a  switch  in  the  wrong  place  as  usual.  Bob. 
I  just  hit  the  MODE  SELECT;  that's  all. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    Partially  open  the  forward  hatch,  when  we 
can.    Okay.    Can  you  zap  over  to  the  left  as  much 
as  you  can? 

CDR-LM  To  the  right,  you  mean? 

LMP-LM  Yes . 

CDR-LM  Yes.     To  the  north. 

LMP-LM  To  the  north. 

CDR-LM  The  north. 

LMP-LM  The  north.     (Laughter)    Okay,  it's  about  0.2,  Gene, 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Let  me  - 

LMP-LM  You  going  to  be  able  to  get  to  it? 

CDR-LM     Yes.     You  bet  you.    I've  come  this  far.     I'm  not 
going  to  miss  getting  that  hatch  open. 

Ol+  18  23  56    LMP-LM      Hey,  something  just  flew  out. 

Ok  18  23  58    CDR-LM      It's  open  now. 

LMP-LM      Gosh,  look  at  those  trajectories  (laughter). 

CDR-LM      Yes.    Put  just  enough  air  in  here,  we're  -  Okay; 
it's  open,  babe.     Okay;  it  is  open. 

Oil  l8  2h  12    LMP-LM      Good.    Okay;  final  prep,  PLSS  primary  H^O.  I've 

got  to  figure  out  how  to  open  that  now. 


Tape  T7A/25 


Oh 

18 

2h 

39 

LMP- 

-LM 

Oh 

18 

2h 

i^T 

CDR- 

-LM 

CDR- 

-LM 

LMP- 

-LM 

CDR- 

-LM 

Oh  18 

25 

13 

CDR- 

-LM 

Oi* 

18 

25 

16 

LMP- 

-LM 

Oil 

18 

25 

18 

CDR- 

-LM 

Oh 

18 

25 

22 

LMP- 

-LM 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     When  you're  at  5  psi,  it's  -  We  never  did  really 
train  for  this  in  the  right  way. 

Yes,  we  did.    Okay.    My  water  is  OPEN. 

And  my  water  is  OPEN. 

Okay.    Well,  let's  see,  rest  until  cooling  suf- 
ficient; 3.7  to  U.6.    I'm  to  h,9;  coming  down. 

Yes,  I  am,  too.     Coming  down. 

CWEA  status. 

PREAMPs  and  ECS.     Can  you  see  that? 

See  a  PREAMPs,  and  I  see  ECS. 

Okay.    Water  SEP  component  light,  on. 

Water,  excuse  me,  water  SEP.    Well,  the  next 
thing  it  says  that  Gene  gets  out. 

CDR-LM     I  don't  see  that. 

LMP-LM      That's  what  it  says  on  my  checklist. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Good  heavens!    That  means  you  got  to  get 
out  of  the  way  so  I  can  open  the  hatch. 

LMP-LM     Well,  I'm  going  to  have  to  turn  around  a  little, 
I  think,  so  I  can  help  you. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    Boy,  heware  of  that  corner. 

LMP-LM      It's  high  pressure  (laughter). 

CDR-LM      Yes.     I  tell  you  at  h~l/2,  you're  really  pretty 
heavy. 

LMP-LM     What  was  that  that  came  shooting  up  here?  A 

piece  of  "bread?     (Laughter)    Would  you  believe 
that? 


Tape  T7A/26 


CDR-LM     Yes,  I'dbelieve  it. 

LMP-LM     Why  is  our  hatch  open?    Somebody  opened  our  hatch. 
Are  you  getting  cooling? 

CDR-LM      I'm  beginning  to,  I  think. 

LMP-LM     I  still  got  a  vater  flag.    Not  hot.    Stand  by. 
Okay .    Well . 

Oh  18  26  39    LMP-LM     How  does  the  water  pressures  look,  Houston? 

Oh  18  26  1+6    CC  Challenger,  they're  looking  just  a  little  bit 

low.    We're  still  expecting  it  to  build  up. 
It's  going  to  take  a  little  while, 

01+  18  26  3h    CDR-LM      Okay.     I'm  getting  down  on  my  knees  out  here. 

How  am  I  looking.  Jack? 

LMP-LM      You're  Just  fine.     I'm  holding  you  away  from  the 
DEDA,  the  ...  DSKY. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    I'm  going  to  put  this  visor  down  now,  I 
think.    How  does  that  look  to  you? 

LMP-LM  What? 

CDR-LM     How  are  my  legs?    Am  I  getting  out? 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  don't  know.     I  can't  see  your  legs. 

CDR-LM      Oh,  okay  (laughter). 

LMP-LM      I  think  you're  getting  out  though,  because  there's 
not  as  much  of  you  in  here  as  there  used  to  be. 
Oh,  hey;  Gene,  when  I  get  down  there,  I  got  to 
fix  your  tool  harness.    Hold  it. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    Can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-LM     It's  come  off  the  bottom  again. 

CDR-LM     Can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  can't  do  it  now,  because  it's  come  off 
from  the  bottom.    I'll  have  to   


Tape  T7A/2T 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

Ok  18  07  h6  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
OU  18  28  21  CDR-EVA 

oh  18  28  30  CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

Oh  18  28  h6  CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 

OI+  18  29  00  CDR-EVA 


Oh,  the  bottom  of  the  PLSS ,  huh? 
Yes. 

Okay.    Well,  my  legs  are  out.     Keep  that  hatch 
open . 

Can  you  squat  down  any  further,  because  you're 
hooked  on  -  you're  making  it  worse.  Okay, 

How's  that? 

Okay.     How,  I  think  I  -  Be  careful  because  you 
might  hook  it  on  something  down  there. 

Oh,  the  tool  harness? 

Yes.    The  back.     It's  loose  on  your  back;  on  the 
back  of  the  PLSS. 

Oh,  man,  I  don't  like  that.     Okay.     I'll  watch  it. 

Well,  I'll  fix  it  when  I  get  out  there. 

Okay.  I'm  still  reading  U.O.  Houston,  Commander 
is  on  the  porch  of  Challenger. 

Roger.    We  copy  you.  Commander,  and  your  feed 
water  pressure  is  looking  much  better  -  - 

-  -  now,  and  you're  probably  getting  cooling. 
Okay.    Everything  else  look  good  to  you? 
That's  affirmative. 

Okay,  Jack.     I'm  going  to  get  the  MESA. 

Okay.    And  I'll  have  an  ETB  ready  for  you. 

Oh ,  man ;  oh ,  man ;  oh  ,  man . 

Deploy  MESA. 

Okay.    Here  it  comes. 


Tape  TTA/28 


Ok  18  29  08    CDE-EYA    There  she  goes.  Babe. 
LMP-LM      Yea,  hey! 

CDR-EVA    There  she  is.    All  the  way  down;  it  looks  like. 
Okay.    I  Jettisoned  -  Oh,  you  want  an  ETB? 

LMP-LM     That's  up  to  you. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-LM     You're  the  commander. 

CDR-EiVA    I  got  it.     I  got  it.    And,  the  pressure  looks  like 
it's  started  to  stabilize  at  3.8.    I  don't  know 
whether  I'm  getting  cooler  or  not,  hut  I  feel 
pretty  good. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-LM      How  about  a  jett  bag,  too? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Oh,  Jack,  I  coiad  swing  it  over  the  -  Won't 
be  any  problem.    Over  the  strut.    Okay;  and  the 
jet  bag  is  springing  free  -  swinging  free. 

LMP-LM     You  mean  the  ETB. 

CDR-EVA  ETB.  Oh,  man.  This  looks  like  a  Santa  Claus  bag. 
LMP-LM      It  is. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy.    There  it  goes.    The  Rover  looks  in  good 
shape.    ETB  is  down  there.    Okay.     I've  got  all 
my  visors  down.    Jack,  I  wouldn't  lower  your  gold 
visor  until  after  you  get  on  the  porch,  because 
it's  plenty  dark  out  here. 

LMP-LM  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-LM  Tape  recorder  -  - 

OU  18  30  1+3    CDR-EVA  I'm  on  my  way. 


Tape  77 A/ 29 


LMP-LM  is  off. 

CDR-EVA    Sensitivity,  max  and  max. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Houston.    The  Commander  is  about  three- 
q^uarters  of  the  way  down. 

OU  18  31  09    CDR-EVA    I'm  on  the  footpad.    And,  Houston,  as  I  step  off 

at  the  surface  at  Taurus-Littrow ,  I'd  like  to 
dedicate  the  first  step  of  Apollo  17  to  all  those 
who  made  it  possible.    Jack,  I'm  out  here.  Oh, 
my  golly.     Unbelievable.     Unbelievable,  but  is  it 
bright  in  the  Sun.    Okay.    We  landed  in  a  very 
shallow  depression.    That's  why  we've  got  a  slight 
pitch-up  angle.    Very  shallow,  dinner-plate-like 
dish  crater  just  about  the  width  of  the  struts . 
How  you  doing.  Jack? 

Ok  18  32  12    LMP-LM     Fine.    Getting  the  circuit  breakers  verified. 

CDR-EVA    The  LM  looks  beautiful.    Oh,  do  we  have  boulder 
tracks  coming  down.    Let  me  see  exactly  where  we 
are.     I  think  I  may  be  Just  in  front  of  Punk. 

oU  18  32  1*5    CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.  Gene,  and  are  the  boulder 

tracks  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I 'm  beginning  to  

CC  -  -  to  both  the  north  and  south? 

oh  18  32  53    CDR-EVA    Okay.    On  the  North  Massif,  we've  got  very  ob- 
vious boulder  tracks.     A  couple  of  large  boulders 
come  within  20  or  30  feet  of  the  -  Looks  like 
where  we  can  get  to  them,  but  there's  a  couple  - 
there's  a  couple  I  know  we  can  get  to.  Well, 
the  Sun  angle  is  such  that,  what  I  saw  on  the 
South  Massif  earlier  I  can't  see  very  well.  But, 
I  know  there  were  boulder  tracks  over  there.     The  - 
Bare  Mountain  -  Boy,  it's  hard  to  look  to  the 
east  -  Bare  Mountain  and  the  Sculptured  Hills  have 
a  very,  very  similar  texture  on  the  surface.  The 
Sculptured  Hills  is  like  the  wrinkled  skin  of  an 
oldjiQld,  lOO-year-old  man  -  is  probably  the  best 
way  I  could  put  it.    Very,  very  hummocky,  and  - 
but  smoothly  pockmarked.     I  do  not  see  any  boulder-s 
up  by  the  Sculptured  Hills  from  here.     But  it's 
awful  hard  to  look  to  the  east  and  to  the  southeast 


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CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.  Gene.    Have  you  got  an  LMP 

with  you  yet? 

Ok  18  3k  09    CDR-EVA    Well,  here  come  his  feet.    Jack,  let  me  make  sure. 

We  didn't  have  an  awful  lot  of  dust  on  landing; 
but  I  can  dig  my  foot  in  8  or  10  inches,  and  I 
know  we're  at  least  that  thick.     There's  a  small 
little  1-meter  crater  right  in  front  of  us  with 
a  whole  mess  of  glass  right  in  the  middle.  That's 
right  in  front  of  the  MESA,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 
Right  where  I  want  to  park  the  Rover.  Jack, 
you're  looking  good. 

CC  Beautiful,  guys;  beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  take  a  quick  look  back.    I  think  this 
is  Poppy,  and  I  can  give  you  a  real  better  idea 
where  we  are. 

LMP-LM     Hatch  is  closed,  barely. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  don't  lock  it. 

LMP-LM     I'm  not  going  to  lock  it. 

CDR-EVA    We've  got  to  go  back  there.    You  lose  the  key, 
and  we're  in  trouble. 

ok  18  35  01    LMP-EVA    Oh,  I'm  on  the  porch.    Who  said  this  place  was 

smooth? 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  there's  a  lot  of  local  depressions  here  I 
didn't  figure  existed. 

Ok  18  35  IT    LMP-EVA    Hey,  who's  been  tracking  up  my  lunar  surface? 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  I'm  east  of  the  LM  now.     I'm  east  of 
the  LM,  and  the  back  strut  of  the  LM  is  -  Well, 
the  LM  straddles  this  crater  I  talked  about,  and 
that's  where  we  get  the  pitch  angle;  the  back  strut 
is  probably  right  down  in  the  eastern  one-third  of 
that  crater.    Just  a  little  -  very  subtle  crater. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  man;  you  had  some  forward  velocity. 


CDR-EVA 


That's  what  I  wanted  to  have. 


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LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

Oh  18  36  39  CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

Oh  18  37  28  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Boy,  I  look  at  some  of  these  rocks  that  are 
filleted  here.  Jack,  and  there  sure  are  a  lot  of 
sparklies  in  them.    Awful  lot  of  sparklies. 

You  landed  in  a  crater! 

That's  a  pretty  good  shot. 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  get  to  vork  in  a  minute,  just 
as  soon  as  I  take  a  look  at  Trident. 

Why  don't  you  come  over  here  and  let  me  deploy 
your  antenna. 

Okay.    Just  walk  around  for  1  second. 

(Laughter)    Hey,  man,  put  your  visor  down. 

And,  I'll  be  over  there,  and  you  can  fix  my  tool 
harness.    I  don't  like  that  thing  loose. 

I  don't  like  it  loose,  either.  What  are  you  doing 
over  there?    We're  supposed  to  be  working. 

I  was  just  going  to  give  them  a  fix.    All  these 
little  craters.  Jack,  have  got  glass  in  the  bottom 
of  them.    Here's  another  one. 

There's  very  clear  sweeping  of  the  surface  by  the 
descent  plume  out,  oh,  about  10  meters  -no, 
15  meters.     Come  over  here,  and  I'll  fix  your 
antenna. 

Okay.    Hey,  Bob,  how  big  is  Poppy  supposed  to  be? 

Stand  by.     It  looks  on  the  map  -  - 

I  didn't  hear  you.    You  cut  out. 

Okay.     It  looks  on  the  map  like  it's  about 
75  meters  in  diameter.     Fairly  subtle. 

Ok^.    Okay,  I  tell  you  where  I  think  I  landed  - 
oh,  about  100  meters  from  Poppy  at  10  o'clock. 

You  think  that's  Poppy,  huh? 


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GDR-EVA    I  think  so  -  I  think  -  - 
LMP-EVA    That's  an  awful  big  hole. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  know.    I  got  to  look  around  a  little  more. 
It  sure  is  not  Trident. 

LMP-EVA    Bend  over  and  I'll   

CDR-EVA    It  might  he  part  of  Trident. 

LMP-EVA  get  your  antenna.     Get  your  antenna.    Oh,  a 

little  more. 

CDR-EVA    Gosh,  it's  beautiful  out  here. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  hang  on. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     The  immediate  surf   

LMP-EVA    Not  yet.    Yes,  go  -  you  talk  to  them.     I  don't 
want  you  to  stand  up  yet. 

CDR-EVA  The  sttrface  is  moderately  cohesive,  which  holds 
a  pretty  good  bootprint  -  very  fine  grain .  ... 
looks  very  much  like  previous  soils.    You  got  her? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    You  got  a  hole  behind  you  now. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  stand  in  it,  and  you  can  get  at  it 
better. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  you  got  me  right  in  the  Sun.    Can  you  come 
around  this  way?     Ho-ho.     (Laughter)     I'm  going 
to  have  to  get  upstream  of  you. 

CDR-EVA    Look,  you  get  up  on  the  hill,  and  I'll  get  in 
the  hole. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     There  you  go.    Whoa,  whoa,  whoa,  whoa. 

CDR-EVA   Don't  move  too  fast.    Boy,  your  feet  look  like 
you  Just  walked  on  the  Moon,  you  know. 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  I  tell  you  Gene,  I  think  the  next  genera- 
tion ought  to  accept  this  as  a  challenge, 

LMP-EVA    Let's  see  them  leave  footsteps  like  these  someday. 
Got  another  -  there,  that'll  be  all  right. 

Ok  18  39  12    CDR-EVA    Okay.    What  did  you  do  with  my  tool  harness? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  work  on  it;  that's  what  I'm  going 
to  do.     Whoa;  hold  still. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Boy,  I  tell  you,  looking  to  the  east,  you 
might  just  well  forget  it . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  see.    How's  this  thing  -  I'm  going 
to  have  to  loosen  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  if  you  could  just  stretch  it  around. 

LMP-EVA    I  can't. 

CDR-EVA    You  can't  huh? 

LMP-EVA    But  I  will  be  in  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  loosen  it  to  the  point  where  you  can't  get 
it  back  on. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    You're  almost  reconfigured. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Somebody  tied  you  on  wrong,  too.  They've 

got  the  strap  reversed  for  the  Velcro .  Okay ,  Gene . 
I  think  that  will  hold. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  I'm  going  to   

LMP-EVA    If  it  doesn't  I'll  fix  you  again. 

oh  18  ItO  20    CDR-EVA    Man,  there's  sparklles  in  the  soil.  Jack.     You  can 

just  look  at  it.    See  them  all  over?    Very  fine 
grained.     It's  sparkly,  that's  all.    Bob,  I'm  going 
to  min  cooling  -  or,  intermediate  cooling. 

Ok  l8  1*0  33    CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 


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LMP-EVA    Boy,  that  sure  - 

CDF-EVA    See  the  soil  sparkle? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  that's  a  little  glass. 

CDR-EVA    There's  -  Let's  go  back  here  and  get  to  work,  and 
I'll  show  jrou  that  crater  that's  got  nothing  hut 
glass  in  the  hottom. 

LMP-EVA    That's  a  vesicular  rock  of  some  kind  there,  Geno. 

It  almost  looks  like  a  mono  crater  -  pumice,  but 
don't  quote  me . 

oh  18  kl  01    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  have  to  reiterate.    Even  the  small  -  even 

the  very  small  -  the  1-  and  2-inch  -  3-inch  frag- 
ments that  are  laying  around  here  have  been  dusted 
and  filleted   

LMP-EVA    Do-tu-doo , 

CDR-EVA    -  -  with  the  dark  mantle. 

LMP-EVA    And  that  sweeping  by  the  descent  stage  goes  all 

the  way  out  there,  Houston,  to  where  we  were,  which 
was  about  50  meters,  I  guess.    Hey,  man  -  whuh, 
whuh,  whuh,  whuh  -  these  rocks  -  they  almost  have 
a  pink  -  very  light  pinkish  hue  to  them,  and  they 
are  not  -  they're  not  obviously  breccia.  Now, 
that  -  that's  a  -  like  a  breccia  there.    But  this 
stuff  is  something  else  again. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  don't  think  there  is  any  place  you  could 
land  ajTOund  here  where  you  wouldn't  have  one  foot 
in  the  crater. 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  a  vesicular,  very  light-colored  porphyry 
of  some  kind;  it's  about  10  or  15  percent  vesicles. 
I'm  right  in  front  of  the  LM.     They  -  Quite  a  few 
of  the  rocks  look  of  that  type.     Sort  of  a  pinkish 
hue  to  them.    The  texture  is  coarse,  but  I'm  not 
sure  how  crystalline  they  are,  yet.    Okay;  back 
to  work. 


CDR-EVA 


Jack,  when  you  put  up  the  ETB,  the  -  check  down 
there  below  it . 


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LMP-EVA    Oh-ho-ho  (laughter). 
oh  18  U2  33    CDR-EVA    Okay,  let's  take  a  look  at  the  Rover. 
LMP-EVA    Let's  don't  forget  those. 
CDE-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That's  my  fault;  I  guess. 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh  maji,  I  tell  you,  ve  came  down  at  just  a  little 
forward  velocity.     Look  at  that  -  right  there. 
Ahout  a  foot  slip  on  the  pad.    I  tell  you,  there's 
craters  all  over  here.    Okay,  haby.     I'd  sure  like 
to  think  that  that  wheel  is  where  it's  supposed  to 
be .    It  looks  good  to  me . 

OU  18  1+3  06     CDR-EVA    Our  next  little  vehicle  to  work. 

ok  18  h3  35    CDR-EVA    Okay.     Boh,  so  far,  the  Rover  looks  pretty  good. 

ok  18  1+3  39     CC  Roger;  sounds  good,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  let  me  ask  you.    When  I  was  behind  the  LM,  I 
could  look  right  into  an  area  and  see  the  bell  of 
the  ascent  stage.     I  never  realized  that  before, 
but  I  guess  that's  normal,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    We  saw  it  on  the  pad.  Remember. 

CDR-EVA  Barely. 

LMP-EVA    Remember  when  we  went  out  there? 

CDR-EVA    The  only  reason  I  asked.  Bob,  I'm  sure  it's  normal, 
and  it  doesn't  look  anything 's  missing,  it's  just 
right  -  right  into  the  Sun. 

CC  Yes.    The  consensus  of  opinion  down  here  is  that 

you  can,  also. 


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CDR-FVA  Yes,  that's  protably  the  best  place  in  the  world 
to  get  a  consensus  of  opinion  from.  Okay,  Jack, 
it's  about  work  time.  I've  got  this  Rover  about 
ready  for  -  your  pull  up  there. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  a  little  delayed  here. 

GDR-EVA  Okay.  I'm  sure  glad  those  guys  made  us  train  so 
hard. 

IJtP-EVA    Okay.    The  MESA's  up.    Let  me  know  when  you're 
ready  to  deploy. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Babe,  I  am  -  I  am  ready  for  you.  Everything 
I  can  see  looks  pretty  good.    The  walking  hinges, 
you  will  be  glad  to  know,  are  intact.    They  did 
not  drop. 

Oh  18  U5  12    CC  Roger.    That's  a  first. 

LMP-EVA    You  want  me  to  go  up  there  and  do  that,  huh? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     The  beginning. 
LMP-EVA    You  ready  for  me  to  deploy? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  just  doublecheck.     Drape,  contingency, 
unstow  aft  deployment  cable,  verify  walking  hinge, 
forward  and  aft  chassis  parallel.    They  are. 

LMP-EVA    MESA  insulation  is  not  coming  off  as  easy  as  in 
training. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Outrigger  cables  are  taut.     Looking  good 
to  me.    Yes,  Jack.    You  can  go  on  up.    Go  on  up. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  ready  for  you.    Gosh,  that  LM  is  a  pretty  sight. 
Challenger,  you're  a  beauty, 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  see  how  good  I  am. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  drop  that.    Let  me  get  that  thing  again. 


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CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
OU  18  1+6  29  CDR-EVA 
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CDR-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


Yes,  sir.  (Laughter)    Yes,  sir.    You're  pretty 
agile  there ,  twinkle  toes . 

You  bet  your  -  life  I  am. 

All  I  asked  you  to  do  was  pull  that  handle  up 
there.    Man,  anything  you  grab.  Jack  -  I  just 
grabbed  this  lanyard  that  was  in  the  dust  -  is 
really  black. 

You  ready? 

Go.     She  fell,  Houston.     She's  open. 

Okay.    You've  got  parallel  chassis;  the  wheels 
look  good  on  this  side. 

Okay.  They're  good  on  this  side.  Let's  get  done. 
Let's  get  it  out. 

I'll  wait  for  you  to  get  the  deploy  cable,  I'll 
tell  you.  Jack,  this  place  is  not  locally  level. 

You  -  you're  right. 

Okay.  There's  not  -  there's  not  many  places  you 
could  put  the  LM  down  and  have  it  be  zero,  zero, 
zero.    Okay.     I'm  ready  if  you  are. 

I  don't  know  how  much  help  I'm  going  to  be. 

Well,  I'm  starting;  you  pull.  It's  coming.  It's 
coming.  It's  coming,  baby.  How's  your  wheels  on 
that  side?     Can  you  see  them:    Mine  look  good. 

Wheels;  they  looked  good  a  minute  ago.     I  got  the 
Sun,  so  I  can't  tell  much  -  - 

Okay. 

Eeee.     The  only  way  to  do  it. 

I'm  putting  all  my  weight  (laughter). 

Okay.  Wait  a  minute,  I'm  coming  down  now.  She's 
going  to  pop  here. 


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LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Wait  a  minute.     Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA  I  may  pull  a  Jim  Irwin  here. 

CDR-EVA  Wait  a  minute.    Watch  out.    Here  she  goes. 

LMP-EVA  Got  her. 

Oil  18  UT  52    CDR-EVA  Okay.    Beautiful,  Houston.     The  aft  chassis's  out 

OU  18  hi  57    CC  Roger.  Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA  Beautiful.    Whoa,  whoa,  wait,  wait,  wait,  wait. 

LMP-EVA  Tried  to  get  off  the  hinge  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes.     She's  on,  though.     She's  all  in.  She' 
in  the  walking  hinges .     I  wish  you  could  see  it . 
Jack,  those  wheels  did  not  lock  all  the  way  up 
though.    We  ought  to  pull  them  up  before  we  - 
well  -  - 

LMP-EVA     . . . 

CDR-EVA    Well,  there  it  goes  by  itself.    Okay.    Wait  a 
minute  -  wait  a  minute.    Okay.    Let  me  pull  it 
until  the  outriggers  cables  get  slack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Walk  away  from  it.  Easier. 

CDR-EVA  That  tape  up  there  -  on  the  reel. 

LMP-EVA  Yeah,  it's  all  - 

CDR-EVA  It's  coming, 

LMP-EVA  It's  free  reeling. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Let  me  -  let  me  -  don't  pull  it  until  I  - 
Okay.    How  I've  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I'd  walk  and  fall  into  that  crater  if  I  went 
to  the  end  of  this  line. 


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ok  18  U8  59    LMP-EVA    Houston,  I  do  think  we've  got  a  different  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  deploying  it  at  an  angle.     Okay.  The 
outrigger  cables  are  free.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Got  a  different  breed  of  rock  up  here.  The 
stuff's  sticking  through  this  thin  regolith  -  or 
regolith,  period.    I  don't  know  whether  it's  thin 
or  thick  yet  (singing).    Okay.    Mine's  free, 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  this  -  let  me  get  all  this  cable  out 
of  the  way.    Otherwise,  I'll  -  is  that  enough  of 
this  stuff?     I  don't  like  all  that  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    A  geologist's  paradise,  if  I  ever  saw  one.  Boy, 

you  certainly  are  changing  the  color  of  that  cable , 
sir. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Just  tried  a  John  Young  trick. 
LI4P-EVA    Did  it  work? 
CDR-EVA    Yes.  (Laughter). 
LMP-EVA    You're  getting  dirty. 

CDR-EVA    But,  I'm  still  getting  my  balance.    I  didn't  touch 
the  ground.    Just  got  to  get  some  of  this  cable 
out  of  here. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure  my  pockets  are  going  to  be  accessible. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I'll  tell  you,  I  don't  know  how  long  this 
line  to  pull  the  Rover  out  is,  but  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  tell  you,  it  sure  is  easy  to  get  dusty, 
but  that's  nothing  new  to  anybody.     Okay,  Babe, 
let  me  get  -  Wheel 

Oh  18  50  32    LMP-EVA    I  think  it's  safe  to  say  this  surface  was  not 

formed  yesterday.    There  is  a  regolith;  it  looks 
classic.    Area  distribution  of  particles  up  to 
3  OT  h  centimeters,  anyway.    Then,  you  start  to 
get  maybe  a  selective  distribution  of  large  frag- 
ments.    Got  that  cable? 


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CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

rjyip-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

Ol+  18  51  09  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 


Ol*  18  52  12 
Ok  18  52  15 


Yes. 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  walk  away  with  this  one. 
Okay;  outrigger  cahle. 
You  ready? 

Okay.  When  forward  wheels  on  surface;  okay.  Let 
me  -  let  me  pull. 

Okay,  Houston.    She's  continuing  to  come. 

Here's  a  couple  of  different  looking  rocks.  One's 
very  white;  one's  quite  dark.    But  we  do  have  a 
general  rock  type,  I  think,  in  the  area  -  of  the 
hig  boulders.     Gosh,  how  much  cahle  is  there? 

There's  a  lot  of  it  Jack.    Keep  going. 

(Laughter) 

You're  going  to  he  a  long  way  away.    We're  not 
there  yet.    Keep  going.    Okay.    We've  got  the 
front  wheels  on  the  surface,  hut  keep  going,  I 
don't  think  you've  got  it  up  there. 

I  never  thought  I'd  do  geology  this  way. 

Okay.     I  think  you  got  it.     Let  me  see. 

Is  it  slack? 

I'll  get  up  there  and  take  a  look.     Okay.  It's 
s lack . 

Longest  cahle  in  the  world. 
It's  slack. 

Wait  till  you  get  to  the  ALSEP  package. 
Okay.     By  golly,  those  wheels  did  lock. 


Tape  77A/1H 


LMP-EVA    (Laughter)     I  never  knew  that  cable  was  that  long. 
Bob.    Oh,  a  glass  bottom  -  a  glass  bottom  crater 
with  a  little  bench.     Looks  like  one  of  the  Flag- 
staff explosion  craters  except  for  the  glass  in 
it.    Right  out  at  12  o'clock.    That's  the  one  I 
was  talking  about,  about  having  a  bright  halo. 
I  don't  know  whether  it's  easier  to  walk  out  there 
or  to  do  what  I  did  in  training  -  that  I  wouldn't 
do  on  the  Moon.    Somebody's  going  to  get  tangled 
up  with  this  thing. 

CDR-EVA    That's  why  I'd  get  it  all  under  the  LM  somewhere. 

I'd  -  what  I'd  -  took  me  5  minutes  to  do  and  get 
it  all  out  of  the  way.     Okay,  Bob,  the  front 
wheels  locked  in.    I  had  to  pull  the  rear  wheels  - 
rear  wheels  back  to  get  them  to  lock  in. 


Oh  18  53  11    CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

OU  l8  53  l6    CDR-EVA    At  least  no  one  let  any  air  out  of  the  tires.  Man, 

I  look  like  I've  been  on  the  surface  for  a  week 
already.    Holy  smoley.    Okay.     Pull  pins  on 
deploy  cable  and  fittings  -  move  LEV  from  LM. 


LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute.    I  haven't  —  the  -  - 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  other  pins.     It's  going  to  take  awhile.  Think 
we  can  avoid  that  cable? 


CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  set  it  there,  pull  this  pin,  and  then 
you  can  go  back  and  get  it;  that  is,  it's  better 
to  use  the  Rover  contingency  tool,  because  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  that's  off  over  there  on  the  ground  now, 
somewhere  or  another. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Pull  that  pin.    Until  we  get  that  saddle 
loose . 


OU  18  53  52    LMP-EVA  Loose. 


CDR-EVA    Beautiful.    Okay,  we're  going  to  have  to  move  that 
thing  -  that  line.  Jack.    You  ready? 


Tape  77A/U2 


LMP-EVA    I'll  move  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let's  find  a  -  back  over  here.     See  that? 
liMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man.    Face  a  little  more  east,  so  I  don't 

have  to  run  into  the  ,.,    Okay,  how  about  here? 

LMP-EVA  That's  -  You're  the  driver. 

CDR-EVA  Okay;  right  there. 

LMP-EVA  You  like  it? 

CDR-EVA  Like  it, 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    You  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Not  yet.     You  got  some  fenders  and  stuff  for  me  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  was  going  to  get  my  cable.     I  thought  you  said 
I  could  work  on  the  cable. 

CDR-EVA  Ohh. 

LMP-EVA  You're  putting  me  farther  and  farther  behind. 

CDR-EVA  Oop. 

LMP-EVA  Don't  forget  your  post. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

0^  18  5i*  38    LMP-EVA  Okay.    Pull  pins.     I  can  see  a  little  yellow  ... 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    The  post  is  up. 

LMP-EVA  Hinge  pins. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Yours  is  in,  but  mine  is  not. 

LMP-EVA  Well  -  neither 's  my  outboard  one. 

CDR-EVA  }fy  outboard  is  in,  but  my  Inboard  is  not. 


Tape  77A/U3 


LMP-EVA  And  my  outboard  isn't. 

CDE-EVA  Well. 

oh  18  55  09    LMP-EVA  Tliat's  supposed  to  do  it.    But  it  didn't. 

Ok  18  55  lU  CC 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  the  contingency  tool  and  try  to  push 
those  things  closed. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Be  care  - 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  piece  of  glass  I  picked  up.     I'm  going 
to  set  it  right  on  the  floor  of  the  Rover.  Jack, 
let  me  get  that  tool.    We  got  to  get  those  pins 
in,  I  think. 

oh  18  55  52    CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  got  any  words  on  the  yellow  pins  on  the 

resir  chassis? 

Oil  18  55  55    CC  Roger.    The  best  way  to  put  those  in,  if  you've 

tried  bouncing  the  chassis ,  would  be  to  push  them 
with  the  contingency  tool.  ...  what  you're  going 
to  do. 

LMP-EVA    That's  affirm.     Can  you  get  that,  Geno? 
LMP-EVA    Need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    Nope.    Well,  I  found  how  to  get  up. 
LMP-EVA    Did  you  fall  down? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  this  thing  was  in  the  mud  down  here.  We'll 
find  out  in  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Jack.     Got  an  out  one  here,  huh? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Let  me  try  to  push  it  in. 

OU  18  57  06    CDR-EVA  Okay.    Yours  is  in. 

LMP-EVA  Good. 

CDR-EVA  Can  I  get  mine  in? 


Tape  TfA/kk 


LMP-EVA    Want  me  to  get  it? 

CDR-EVA   Well,  yes.    Can  you  reach  it  from  there?    It's  a 
nice  ...  on  it.    Almost.    A  little  more.     Wait  a 
minute.    Let  me  get  it  -  let  me  get  it  right  - 
Okay;  push.     It's  in.     It's  in. 

LMP-EVA    Very  good.    Why  don't  you  put  that  "between  the 
s  eats  ? 

Ol+  18  57  39    CDR-EVA    Yes.    Okay.    Bob,  they're  in. 
01+  18  57  ho    CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Now  where  was  I?    I  got  dqt  fender,  got  the 
post,  got  to  get  the  seat. 

LMP-EVA  Ready? 

CDR-EVA    I 'm  going  to  take  it  a  little  slower  here  in  a 
minute . 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Just  a  little  bit  slower  in  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    The  blush  is  off  the  rose.     Okay,  your  front 
pin  is  in.    And  both  of  mine  are  in. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.  ... 

LMP-EVA    Not  quite  as  easy  as  in  the  training  building. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  a  case  of  knowing  how  to  play  in  1/6  g, 
is  what  it  amounts  to.    Okay.    Okay.    I'm  ready 
on  the  -  the  lock? 

Ok  18  58  1+1  LMP-EVA  Yes.     It's  locked. 

OU  18  58  1+3  CDR-EVA  Let  me  get  the  seat  down.    Okay.     I  got  the  console. 

01+  16  58  1+8  LMP-EVA  Okay;  and  I  got  the  handle. 

OU  18  58  50  CDR-EVA  Okay;  mine's  pulled. 


Tape  77A/1+5 


LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

Ok  18  59  i+5  LMP-EVA 

Ol+  18  59  57  CDR-EVA 

oh  19  00  01  LMP-EVA 

0^+  19  00  02  CDR-EVA 

Ok  19  00  05  LMP-EVA 


Ok  18  58  51 
Ok  18  58  53 

ok  i8  58  56 
01+  18  58  57 
Ok  18  58  58 
OU  18  59  00 
Oit  l8  59  0^4 


Mine's  pulled, 

Ccme  on  down,  baby.    Here  it  comes.     Stiff,  but 
come  on. 

There  it  is. 

Okay;  make  sure  your  T  locks. 

I'm  not  -  you're  not  all  the  way  down  yet.  Gene. 

Yes.     I'm  locked.    There  you  go. 

Okay.    Okay.     I'm  locked  and  secured.  Okay. 

Oh,  Jack,  I  put  a  little  piece  of  glass  I  picked 
up  right  by  the  Rover,  here. 

Yes .     Okay . 

Just  a  little  piece.     I'm  going  to  leave  it  right 
behind  your  footstool.    It  ^ust  -  just  sparkled 
at  me .     I  had  to  pick  it  up.  Okay? 

That's  yours.     Your  sample  for  the  day. 

I  doubt  that.  Man,  I  tell  you,  zero  g  is  a  piece 
of  cake  if  you  -  or  1/6  g,  if  you'd  play  it  right. 

Okay,  Gene,  you've  got  -  fenders,  your  pin  was 
good.     I  checked  that.    I  could  see  mine,  too. 
Mine  are  okay,  and  you'll  have  to  check  your  out- 
side ones. 

Okay.    My  two  pins  are  good  here. 
Yes.     And  mine  are  good. 

This  one  isn't  quite  flush.     Almost.     It's  good, 

I'm  going  to  poill  your  flags.     Oops,  I  bent  that 
one  -  that  one.    And  yo^xr  attitude  indicator  is 
free. 


Ol+  19  00  17  CDR-EVA 


Man,  look  at  that  stuff  go,  will  you? 


Tape  T7A/U6 


Ok  19  00  18    CC  And,  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    We're  seeing  -  Looks 

like  your  water  temperature's  getting  pretty  high. 
You  might  want  to  go  to  intermediate  cooling  or 
slow  down  or  something.     Looks  like  you're  getting 
a  little  warm. 


OU  19  00  38    CDR-EVA    You  hear  them.  Jack? 

Oil  19  00  39    LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  got  it.    Thank  you.  Bob. 

Oh  19  00  1+1    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  get  that  cable,  because  I  tripped 

over  it  coming  back. 

Oh  19  00  1+6    LMP-EVA    Yes.     I'll  get  it. 

01+  19  00  1+7    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let's  see.    Verify  hinge  pins  and  seal. 

Erect  seat,  seat  -  seatbelt.    Armrest  is  lowered, 
piill  T-handle,  console's  lowered.    Tripod  apex 
J  is  gone  both  sides.    Tool  behind  f ootrest ;  that's 

^'  done.    Front  hinge  pins  are  in.    Erect  footrest. 

Extend  front  fenders;  they're  down.     Verify  batt 
covers  are  closed.    They  are  closed.    And  let's 
keep  them  clean. 


END  OT  TAPE 


Tape  TTB/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ok  19  01  19    CC  You've  got  a  Itmar  sounder  HF  pass  at  1  -  start- 

ing -  at  119,  for  a  site  -  well,  actually  a  2  hour, 
no,  1  hour  that  you  could  probably  grab  some  food 
at  that  time. 

CMP  Okay. 

0»+  19  19  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  l6 

Ok  19  51  12    CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Houston,  America.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     Just  wanted  to  make  sure  you're  there. 

Your  friends  are  out  on  the  surface,  and  we've  got 
a  live  TV  picture  coming  from  the  Moon. 

CMP  Hey,  great! 

CC  And  Boh  just  passed  word  that  they  just  dropped 

the  scissors  up  there,  hut  they  found  them  under 
the  dirt  awhile.    Anyway,  they  almost  lost  a  pair 
of  scissors. 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


(Laughter)    Oh,  come  on  now.     They've  only  got  one 
pair,  too,  I  think.    Unless  both  of  them  ended  up 
over  there. 


Get  some  good  pictures  of  Aitken  there,  Ron? 
CMP  Yes,  I  sure  did. 

CC  Out  of  curiosity  -  - 

CMP  Almost  missed  ...  picture. 


Roger.  When  you  came  by  Arabia,  could  you  see  the 
subdued  rings  of  Arabia? 

You  know,  I  haven't  had  a  real  chance  to  look  at 
those  yet. 


Tape  77B/2 


CC  Roger. 
Oh  19  53  16    CMP  Okay.    Magazine  SS  is  full. 

Roger.     We  copy. 


CC 
CC 

CMP 
CC 


Ron  any  time  you're  ready,  I've  got  a  TEl-26  pad 
and  aji  earth  -  earthshine  photo  pad. 

Let's  see.  (Humming) 

Ron    if  you've  got  1/2  scale  on  your  HIGH  GAIN, 
will  you  go  to  REACQ  and  NARROW? 


04  19  54  50    CMP  Okay.     Good  idea.     REACQ  and  NARROW. 

CC  Good  show,  Ron. 

CMP  (Whistling) 

"""^  SS^'..-^*''  ^  S^-^-  I  ought  to  do  a  TEI 

What  did  you  say  it  was,  26? 

That's  affirm,  Ron.  TEI-26. 


CC 


CMP  Okay.    Ready  to  copy. 

Ok  19  55  51    CC  ~;  37630;  plus  0.53,  plus  0.97; 

139:41:11;. 32;  NOUN  8l's  plus  2450.7,  minus  2097  8 

rest  of  the  pad  is  not  applicable.    Good  old 

Moi^  ;  J""^  Longitude  of  the 

Moon  at  T.^  will  be  minus  l60.39.  Over. 

Okay.     Say  again  the  longitude. 
Roger,  Ron.     It's  minus  -  minus  I6O.39. 
04  19  57  37    CMP  Okay.     Readback.     TEI-26.  SPS/G^;  3763O;  plus 

245  Ot''    .'  °- ^1^.^39: 41:14.32;  and  8l's  ^lus 

Fou;  w'   lo"-™  ^'^  ^^S^l'  133,  200,  030. 

^ our  jet,  12  seconds.     Lunar  longitude  at  T.  is 

minus  160.39. 


CMP 
CC 


Tape  7TB/3 


Oh  19  58  IT    CC  Good  readback,  Ron.    And  the  earthshine  photo  pad 

is  at  121:05  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

Ci^P  Okay.  Stand  by  just  a  second.     121:05,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Okay.  Have  it. 

CC  Roger.  T-start,  121:03:59. 

CMP  Okay.  T-start,  121:03:59. 

Ok  19  59  01    CC  And,  Ron,  we'd  like  the  RECORDER,  ON,  on  the 

LUNAR  SOUNDER. 

Oh  19  59  09     CMP  Okay.     RECORDER,  ON. 

CMP  (Humming) 

01*  20  06  2h    CC  Just  talked  to  the  home  front ,  Ron.     And  I  guess 

some  of  you  guys  will  do  anything  to  get  out  of  - 
get  away  from  putting  up  - 

CMP  Roger. 

CC  -  -  Outdoor  Christmas  decorations.    All  the  neigh- 

bors are  outside  putting  up  your  Christmas  deco- 
rations tonight.     It's  pretty  bad  when  you  have 
to  travel  thousands  of  miles  to  -  - 


CMP 


CC 


Well,  I'll  be  darned.     That's  -  (Laughter)  Yes. 
That's  pretty  dam  nice  of  the  neighbors,  though, 
I  think. 

And  the  Putnaans  got  home,  so  you  got  the  whole  - 
whole  neighborhood  back  now. 


CMP  Gee  whiz. 

01.  20  07  i.8    CMP  Okay.     Finally  got  mag  ZZ  on  the  ole  Nikon. 

CC  Roger.     Looking  at  the  Flight  Plan,  Ron,  you're 

coming  up  on  selecting  OMNI  Bravo  and  setting  up 
the  HIGH  GAIN  and  pow  -  powering  it  OFF;  and  get- 
ting ready  for  the  LUNAR  SOUNDER  receive  only 
section  here. 


Tape  77BA 


CMP  Okay.  (Humming) 

Oi.  20  09  52    CMP  0^^.  k9.     OMNI  Bravo.     And  set  the  HIGH  GAIN 

MANUAL  and  WIDE,  minus  jh. 


CC 


CMP 


Ran.  your  friends  down  here  said  that  they 
could  hear  you  on  the  VHP  loud  and  clear. 

(Laughter)  Very  good.  I  was  Just  curious.  I 
don  t  hear  them.  I  thought  maybe  I  could  hear 
them.    Yes,  have  a  ball  down  there,  guys. 

0^20  13  UO    CC  OKay,  Bon.    We're  -  It  looks  like  we're  about 

CMP  Okay. 


CC 


And  we  re  not  going  to  have  a  number  -  -  any  calls 
here  for  a  good  kO  minutes,  so  this  is  a  good  time 
to  catch  up  on  your  meal  regimen  there  if  you  want. 


CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

Ok  20  20  59    CC  f^'J^qJp^""         ^  <=hance,  we'd  like  H^  TANK  3 

01.  20  21  09    CMP  Okay.  TANK  3  FANS  are  OFF. 

CC  Roger , 

CMP  Hey.  Bob.    Did  Jack  call  down  where  that  flash  is  - 

where  he  saw  that  light  flash? 


CC 
CMP 

CC 
CMP 


Roger. 

Okay.     I've  got  a  mark  next  to  Riccioli  G  - 
Riccioli  Golf.     Is  that  correct? 

That's  affirmative.     We  -  we  circled  it  -  at 
Grimaldi  B  and  the  east  and  north  of  Grimaldi  B. 
ri^t  m  that  area. 

Okay      We've  put  it  just  -  got  a  little  X  about 
the  diajneter  of  Riccioli  G,  to  the  west  of 
Riccioli  G. 


Tape  77B/5 


CC  Okay.     That's  probably  

CMP  . . .  west  of  it. 


CC 


CMP 
CMP 


CMP 
CC 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


That's  probably  -  he  didn't  ever  call  the  -  I'll 
ask  FAO  here,  but  I  don't  think  he  ever  called 
the  actual  -  coordinates  on  it,     I'll  ask  FAO. 
That's  probably  close  enough.     They'll  probably 
all  be  in  the  picture  anyway,  wouldn't  it? 

Oh,  yes.     They'll  all  be  in  the  picture  anyhow. 

You'll  never  believe  it,  but  I  saw  lightning  flash 
down  there  too.     I  don't  know.     That  last  rev. 
Did  you  hear  that? 


CC  Roger.    We  heard  that,  Ron.     The  thought  that 

occurs  to  us,  should  you  be  seeing  the  -  those 
cosmic  ray  flashes  just  while  you're  looking  at 
the  lunar  surface  and  getting  that  effect? 


Yes,  that's  what  I'm  wondering  myself,  you  know. 

As  Charlie  said,  he  mentioned  he'd  seen  something 
similar  to  that  and  possibly  thought  it  was  that. 
And  we  were  thinking  that  maybe  what  it  was  with 
Jack,  but  it  won't  hurt  to  take  a  picture  of  the 
area  anyway. 

Well,  I  think  we'll  try  taking  a  picture  of  it, 
but  I  think  I  tend  to  agree  with  you.  That's 
probably  what  it  was. 

We^re  just  guessing  just  like  anybody  else  on  that, 
We're  just  -  just  guessing  on  it,  Ron. 


CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    Nothing  showing  up  on  the 

seismometer  anyhow  . . . 


Well,  you  have  to  remember  on  the  seismometer,  on 
at  least  the  one  for  Jack's  call,  the  S-IVB  had 
just  clobbered  the  seismometer,  and  -  and  that 
there  was  something  small  impact  that  when  the  - 
it  was  in  the  mud,  you  wouldn't  have  seen  it. 


CMP  Oh,  okay;  sure. 


Tape  77B/6 


Ok  20  27  58    CC  Ron,  I  know  you're  wondering.    All  the  data  so  far 

on  the  lunar  sounder  has  come  out  real  good,  and 
the  HF  pass  is  looking  real  good. 

CMP  Oh,  that's  dandy!     Hey,  that's  great! 

Let's  hope  something  is  going  on  the  film.- 

15iat's  -  that's  Roger  on  that.     We  sure  hope  so. 

(Laughter)    Oh,  I'm  sure  it  is. 

You  take  another  look  at  Copernicus,  or  did  you 
eat  during  the  test? 

Just  stuck  nor  head  out  the  window.     I've  got  to 
fxnd  It.     There  it  is.  right  here. 

Oh,  boy.    Just  wasn't  quite  light  adapted  there. 
I  m  not  sure  if  you  could  really  tell  . . .  going 
through  there  or  not.  ^ 

Roger.  Understand. 

You  know,  light  and  dark  albedos  show  up  real  well. 
You  ca^  see  some  indication  of  terrain;  that  is, 
hilliness  or  burrows  or  -  or  grabens  or  rilles. 
Of  course,  the  fresh  craters  show  up  a  -  lot  wider 
wxtk  reapect  to  the  surromding  territory  tJal 
I  think  they  do  in  the  -  on  the  bright  side,  you 
imow?    With  the  Sun  shining  on  themf 

CC  Roger . 

01.  20  33  20    CC  ^-irst  auto-mechanic  on  the  Moon  as 

one  of  the  rear  fenders  fell  off  the  Rover  right 
after  they  deployed  it.  so  he  had  to  tape  it  on 
wq.th  some  tape. 


CMP 
CC 
CMP 
CC 

CMP 

CMP 

CC 
CMP 


CMP 


CC 


(Laughter)    Oh,  he  did?    Well,  they  were  pretty 
much  sure  those  things  were  going  to  fall  off 
anyhow. 


Yes,  they  were  willing  to  bet  on  it. 
Ok  20  33  35    CMP  You  can't  pack  thez„  in  there,  you  have  to  -  yes  -  - 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  78A/1 


Ok  19  01  21  CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

Oil  19  03  OU  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Okay;  and  ITj  you're  right  on  schedule. 

Okay.     Thank  you,  Bob.     Did  you  tell  Captain 
America  we're  on  the  surface? 

Roger.     We  "broke  the  news  to  him  awhile  ago. 

Okay;  next  spacecraft  to  powerup  is  going  to 
commence  right  now. 

Okay.     That  takes  care  of  that  little  job. 

How's  my  cooling  look  now.  Boh?  Oops. 

Roger.     It's  come  down  quite  a  bit.     You  were 
86,  and  now  it's  down  to  75.    Looks  much  better. 
We  didn't  want  you  to  sweat. 

Well,  I'm  just  a  hot  geologist;  that's  all. 

Or  something. 

Somebody  kicked  dirt  all  over  the  MESA.  Let's 
see  if  there  is  any  life  -  in  this  here  baby. 

Okay.     Getting  up  and  on. 

Give  me  a  yell  when  you  start  to  go,  and  I'll  try 
to  be  sure  to  be  there  with  the  camera. 

Okay. 

Big  bag  is  deployed. 
Copy  that. 

Well,  the  seat  belt  fits  perfect. 

Shoot.     I  thought  I  was  going  to  get  to  drive. 
Man,  I  got  so  much  dust  over  ny  visor  already, 
I  got  to  wipe  it  off.    Get  that  lens  brush;  I 
want  you  to  dust  me  off  a  little  later.  Jack. 


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IMP-EVA    The  lens  brush? 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I've  got  to  dust  my  visor  off  with  something. 
CC  Roger.     Don't  use  your  glove  or  dust  brush  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  when  I  was  bringing  that  - 
U^-EVA    No,  we'll  use  the  lens  brush.  Bob. 
CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I^t's  try  to  see  if  I  can  read  in  this  Sun 
now.    Rotate  the  hand  controller.     Let's  wipe  it 
out  a  couple  of  times  to  make  sure  we  got  all  the 
the  steering.    She's  wiped  out.     She  goes  forward 
and ^ she  goes  reverse.     She's  back  in  forward; 
she's  wiped  out,  and  she's  in  park.     Reverse  is 
down.    Okay,  here  we  go.     Stand  by  for  life.  It 
ought  to  be  on  this  one.    There's  life  in  this 
here  baby.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  who's  responsible  for  packing  this 
ETB,  but  I  think  it  was  me.     You  didn't  by  any 
chance  pick  up  those  scissors,  did  you? 

CDR-EVA    No,  sir. 

LMP-EVA    They're  going  to  be  hard  to  find,  but  I  think  we 
can  do  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  they  were  right  down  there,  unless  you 

picked  them  up.     That's  exactly  where  the  Rover 
tool  was,  too,  and  I  picked  it  up,  so  it's  - 
they're  probably  there.     I  didn't  see  them  though. 
Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  got  iny  camera. 

CDR-EVA    All  the  breakers  closed  except  NAV. 

LMP-EVA    The  old  k  o'clock  pan. 


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Oh  19  05  50    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Houston.    Amp-hours,  I'm  reading  115,  Amps 

are  0.    Volts  are  82  and  82.    Batteries  are  - 
95  and  110.     FORWARD  MOTORS  are  off  scale  low, 
off  scale  low,  and  REARS  are  off  scale  low,  off 
scale  low.     Houston,  you  with  us? 

CO  Roger.    We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    DRIVE  ENABLE,  FORWARD  ...  time-1.     Take  it  nice 
and  easy.     Here  we  go  at  time-2.     And  that  is 
BOTH;  I  know  that.     That's  SECONDARY.  Okay; 
STEERING,  go  FORWARD  to  A   

LMP-EVA    Boy ,  it ' s  hard  to  see  in  that  Sun . 

CDR-EVA    and  REAR  to  D,  and  REAR  to  D.     DRIVE  POWER 

FORWARD  is  going  to  A.     I  didn't  feel  any  Earth- 
shaking  rumbles  like  I  do  in  the  -  in  the  trainer, 
hut  let ' s  see  what  happens . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack.     I'm  going  to  find  out  in  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

ok  19  07  3^+     CDR-EVA    Okay.     Here  we  go.     Okay.  The  runt  -  the  fright  - 

the  front  wheels  turn.     I  can't  see  the  rear  ones. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  verify  them  in  a  minute. 

oh  19  07  50    CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  can't  see  the  rear  ones,  hut  I  know  the 

front  ones  turn.     And  it  does  move.  Hallelujahl 
Hallelujah,  Houston!     Challenger's  haby  is  on  the 
roll. 

CC  Roger .     Copy  that .    Sounds  great . 

CDR-EVA    And  Judging  -  judging  from  the  way  it's  handling, 
I  think  the  rear  wheels  are  steering  too. 

CC  That's  a  first. 

CDR-EVA    What  do  you  see.  Jack? 


LMP-EVA 


Well,  I  -  you're  wrong  angle.     Yes,  they're  turning. 


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CDR-EVA    Hov  does  that  grab  you? 
LMP-EVA    They're  turning. 
CC  How  about  that? 

IMP-EVA    Come  towards  me,  baby.    Looks  like  it's  moving. 
CDR-E\fA    Oh,  boy.     Keep  moving. 
LMP-EVA    Don't  run  over  me. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  worry.    Man,  if  they  don't  like  this. 
CDR-EVA    How's  that? 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  -  Let  me  move  back.  Okay? 
CDR-EVA    How's  the  time  line.  Bob? 

CC  As  far  as  I  can  tell,  you  guys  are  right  on  within 

a  minute  or  2. 

LMP-EVA    They're  just  a  little  high  for  me,  Geno. 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure  I  can  get  it  without  getting  way 
away. 

CDR-EVA-  Okay.     Don't  worry. 

LMP-EVA    Somebody  said  it  was  going  to   be   Just  behind  the 
south  end.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  take  a  little  spin  around 
here,  and  I'll  meet  you  at  the  front  end. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  there's  a  lot  of  static,  though,  everytime 
-1..  start  driving. 

04  19  10  09    MP-EVA    I  know  what  that  was  over  there,  I  think.     Let  me 

see.     Whee!     Okay,  Houston.     The  basic  material 
around  the  LM  is  Just  what  I  said  —  a  fine-grained, 
medium-gray  regolith-appearing  material  that  is  the' 


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standard  Eirea's  population.    The  craters,  though, 
bigger  than  about  a  meter  in  diameter,  seem  to  - 
get  to  -  rock  fragments  -  which  I  haven't  yet 
learned  hov  to  pick  up. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack.     I'm  going  to  give  them  our  position 
here.     I  think  I  know  exactly  where  we  are  now. 

LMP-ETv^A    Well,  once  you  get  them  dirty,  just  like  the  boys 
say,  it's  hard  to  tell  what  they  are. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Houston.    I'm  -  I'm  parked  right  next  to 
Barjea.    And  we  axe,  from  Barjea,  12  o'clock  - 
Jack,  how  far  -  oh,  you  can't  see.    You're  looking 
at  the  Sun.     I  guess  about  150  meters  due  west  of 
Barjea.    And  that's  why  we  looked  so  close  to 
Trident.     I'm  coming  right  up  on  Poppy.     Ho  ques- 
tion about  where  I  am  now.     I've  got  Trident,  and 
when  I  get  up  there  -  We  are  abeam  of  Trident  1, 
just  where  I  said  we  were .     I'm  right  at  Poppy. 
We're  about  -  oh,  100  meters  just  about  due  -  due 
west  of  Poppy,  which  is  almost  in  line  with 
Barjea,  of  coiur-se,  but  basically,  on  that  line, 
I  think,  between  Rudolph  and  Trident  1.     And,  as 
I  look  at  it  in  the  cross  section,  about 
100  meters  -  about  100  meters  north  of  Trident  1. 
That's  the  landing  point. 

CDR-EVA    Sure  get  dirty  fast.     Jack,  that  is  Trident  right 
here  that  I  -  that  we  walked  over  to.  (Laughing) 
I  just  got  my  first  initiation  to  getting  very 
dirty . 

IMP-EVA    You  sure  did  (laughter).     Where  are  you?    Are  you 
ready  to  go? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  coming  right  around  the  front  now.  Houston, 
did  you  get  that  position? 

CC  Roger.     We  copied  that,  Geno . 

CDR-EVA    And  Bob,  I'm  -  I'm  -  I'm  very  firm  of  that  now. 

I'm  almost  positive,  unless  I'm  awfully  mistaken 
about  Trident.     I  don't  see  how  I  could  be  from 
here.    At  the  sacrifice  of  my  cleanliness,  Houston 
the  basic  bright-colored  rock  type  in  the  area 
iQoks  very  much  like  a  cristobalite  gabbros  of 


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the  -  I  didn't  see  cristobalite,  but  it  looks  like 
the  gabbros  in  the  mare  basalt  sweep.  The  coarse- 
grained clinopyroxene  plagioclase  rocks. 

CC  Okay.    We  have  that. 

Ok  19  13  50    CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  to  park  -  How  about  along  side  - 

Am  I  gonna  screw  up  that  little  crater  with  glass 
in  it  if  I  park  there? 

IMP-EVA  Well,  we  will  eventually. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  there's  that  one  anyway.    Let  me  park  right 
here . 

LMP-EVA  I'm  sure  we'll  find  some  more, 

CDR-EVA  Yes  -  Jack ,  where  you  been? 

LMP-EVA  I  fell  down. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  that's  about  close  enough.     Isn't  it. 

mP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  she  is  locked. 

LMP-EVA  Here,  let  me  get  the  15-volt  ... 

CDR-EVA    I  think  this  camera  is  probably  a  little  dirty 

on  the  lens.  Okay,  Houston.  We're  parked.  No. 
The  lens  is  okay.  When  you  uncover  one  of  those 
lens  brushes,  I  want  to  use  it  on  my  visor.  Oh, 
boy. 

CDR-EVA    It  just  takes  a  little  getting  used  to  the  l/6g. 
Jack . 

LMP-EVA    I  want  to  put  this  camera  over  here  right  now, 

because  it's  pretty  dirty  to  put  back  in  that  bag. 
Okay,  get  to  work. 

Ok  19  li+  5^+    CC  Roger.    We  copy  that  guys.    You're  about  7  minutes 

behind  right  now. 

CDR-EVA    LRV  front  configure.    Whoops.     Hold  it.     Hold  it. 


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CDR-E:\'A    What?     Okay,  we'll  catch  up. 

LMP-EVA    I  haven't  quite  learned  how  to  pick  up  rocks  in 

my  hands  yet.  Bob,  or  I  would  of  had  you  a  sample. 
That's  why  I  fell  down,     Vty  day  will  come  (singing). 
Oh,  oh!     It's  an  old  "blue  traverse  gravimeter, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     On  the  plains  of  Taurus-Littrow.     What  a 

valley.     I'd  like  to  cut  down  here,  through  here, 
with  a  P-38  sometime . 

LMP-EVA  That'll  be  the  day. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  it  will. 

LMP-EVA  Whoa  there. 

CDR-EVA  You  never  know. 

LMP-EVA  Friend  of  mine  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Install  LCRU,  lock  posts;  I'll  get  that.  Okay. 
That's  the  next  big  hooker,  the  LCRU. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  geopallet's  off  the  m. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  know,  you  Just  got  to  take  it  easy  imtil  you 
learn  to  work  in  l/6g. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  haven't  learned  to  pick  up  rocks,  which 
is  a  very  embarrassing  thing  for  a  geologist. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  look  like  an  elephant  stumbling  around  here. 

CDR-EVA    Careful  with  the  LCRU.     One  dust  cover  came  off. 
Careful  with  this  baby.     That's  the  real  one. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  you  sure  move  that  Rover  around  when  you  do 
that . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  the  geopallet  is  locked  on. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  getting  pretty  good  at  throwing  things  - 
already . 


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CDR-EVA    Man,  that  thing  won't  want  to  go  on.    That's  be- 
cause it's  not  in  there.    Put  it  in  right,  and  it 
goes  on. 

01+  19  18  05    CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  power  cable's  on  to  TCU,  Boh. 
CC  Got  that. 

LMP-E\^A    TGE  is  on.     22  -  oh,  you  Just  want  the  last  ones. 
Okay,  07. 

CO  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  07 . 

CDR-EVA  Gosh,  the  dirtiest  checklist  in  the  world  (laughter). 

LMP-EVA  Doesn't  take  long,  does  it?    Doesn't  take  long. 

CDR-EVA  Manischewitz,  look  at  that  go!     Did  you  see  that? 

LMP-EVA  I  wish  you'd  be  more  careful. 

CDR-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA  No,  no,  no!     Not  the  television  camera!  (Laughter) 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  It ' s  warm  out  here  ,  you  know? 

LMP-EVA  I'm  certainly  glad  I  got  cool. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  the  TCU  is  locked  in. 

Oh  09  19  3h    LMP-EVA    Houston,  I've  seen  an  awful  lot  of  rocks,  as  I 

worked  here.    They  look  just  like  those  pyroxene 
gabbros  that  I  mentioned.    The  pyroxene's  irri- 
descent  in  the  bright  sun.     The  grain  size  is 
about  -  oh,  between  -  Maybe  the  mean  is  2  milli- 
meters with  max  maybe  up  at  3  or  U.    And  it  looks 
like  predominantly  a  pyroxene  plagioclase  rock  - 
Glmopyroxene ,  but  I  haven't  looked  at  it  real 
closely. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack.     I  set  the  rake  on  the  -  - 
LMP-EVA  Beautiful. 


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CDR-EP/A 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

Oi+  19  21  09  CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


-  -  on  the  seat,     I  just  haven't  learned  -  I'm 
getting  more  finesse  now.     I  think  you  can  over- 
work yourself,  instead  of  making  use  of  the  l/6g. 

Yes. 

It's  going  to  take  a  whole  EVA  to  get  familiar. 
Well,  I  hope  it  doesn't, 

I  find  I'm  using  my  arms  almost  as  much  as  I  ever 
did.     I  remember  the  last  time  I  was  on  the  Moon  - 
about  2  hours  ago. 

Okay,  guess  what?  That  old  hammer  goes  to  the 
gate  top.  The  blue-handled  hammer.  What  more 
could  you  want? 

Okay,  Bob.     I'm  getting  a  low  gain  out  now. 

Okay .     Copy  on  that . 

...  live  the  Rover,  huh,  Geno? 

Beautiful. 

I  just  covildn't  feel  it  murmur  when  I  pressed  the 
breakers  in.     I  could  feel  life  in  it,  but  -  - 

Hey ,  you  let  me  down ,  sport .     You  let  me  down . 
There's  a  pin  you  didn't  pull. 

Okay,  I'll  let  you  get  that;  keep  you  honest. 

Not  only  keep  me  honest.     There,     Okay.  Where 
am  I?     Okay.     Gnomon's  an  island.     Actually,  up 
here ,  it ' s  a  geometric  reference  for  photogramat  - 
grat  -  photogrammetry . 

Woiild  you  believe  that  the  doggone  antenna  -  here 
Jack.     When  I  bend  this,  pull  the  - 

Okay. 

Pull  the  antenna. 
Rather  awkwaxd . 


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CDR-EVA    Pull  the  -  pull  the  antenna.     I  got  to  open  it  up 
to  get  it  out . 

IMP-EVA  Okay.     Big  connector,  you  know. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  connector  was  wedged  in  there. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  that's  probalDly  the  way  it  was  designed. 

CDR-EVA  Boy,  don't  drop  any  of  those  connectors  on  the   

LMP-EVA  Look  at  that  go. 

CDR-EVA  -  -  in  the  dust.    We'll  never  clean  them  out. 

MP-EVA  (Hum.  ) 

CDR-EVA  Good  thing  we're  well  coordinated  human  beings, 

LMP-EVA  Man,  I  can't  believe  -  yes  I  can. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let's  see.     Do  it  right  now. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  I  can. 

CDR-EVA  See  that? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Which  way  are  you  going  to  put  it  on? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  thought  maybe  I  would  put  it  on  that  way, 
so  I  will  put  it  on  this  way,  because  that's 
probably  right. 

CDR-EVA    If  you  put  it  on  right,  you're  going  to  disappoint 
me , 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  hate  to  touch  -  touch  the  old  gnomon.  I'll 
do  my  best  to  please. 

CDR-EVA  Very  bad  general   

IMP-EVA  Okay,  Bob  the  low  gain  is  -  - 

CDR-EVA  -  -  will  never  forgive  me. 

LMP-EVA    low  gain  is  hooked  up. 


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CC  Okay.    We  copy  the  low  gain  hooked  up. 

LMP-EVA     (Hum.)     The  rake  -  the  rake  is  on  the  extension 
handle . 

CC  Roger,  17. 

LMP-EVA    My  king  -  my  kingdom  for  a  scoop. 

CDR-EVA    The  scoop  is  on  the  extension  handle.  Different 
extension  handle's  of  course. 

LMP-EVA    Go  ahead  Boh.     Were  you  calling? 

Ok  19  2k  56    CC  Roger.    And  your  exuherance  is  showing  up  on  the 

BTUs .     You're  running  a  little  high  on  those. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Exuberance!     I've  never  "been  calmer  in  my  life  ... 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let's  get  -  we'll  take  it  easy.  Bob.  I 
think  it's  a  great  deal  a  part  to  just  get 
accustomed  to  handling  yourself  in  zero  gravity, 
the  only  vice  on  the  Moon. 

CC  Roger.     I  thought  you  were  at  l/6g. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     You  know  where  we  are,  whatever. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  old  sample  bag  - 

CDR-EVA    Sample  containment  bag,  sample  collection  bag,  or 

whatever.     ...    What  is  this  thing  called  (singing) 
crazy.     Come  on.     Okay,  that's  there.     Some  of 
the  simplest  things  in  the  world  you  forget. 
Okay,  let's  get  this  one  right  this  time. 

LMP-EVA    You  did  a  great  job  of  parking,  so  I  was  standing 
in  a  hole . 

CDR-EVA    Don't  want  to  mess  up  all  those  good  looking 
craters  around  here. 

LMP-EVA    OopI     Hang  on  there  accessory  staff.  Accessory 
staff,  huh?    Most  staffs  are  accessory  I've 
learned. 


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Oi*  19  26  5U.   LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob  the  high  gain  is  up  and  connected. 
CC  Okay.    Copy  that.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    And  raised. 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Cahle  is  to  staff.     See  if  I  can't  get  your  TV 
camera. 

CC  We're  waiting  with  breathless  anticipation. 

LMP-EVA    Ah,  let's  keep  them  in  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  how  is  my  cooling  doing?    I'd  like  to  stay 
on  intermediate.  Bob.     I  feel  pretty  comfortable. 
I 'm  not  cold  but  I 'm  pleasant . 

LMP-EVA    Pleasant?    He  thinks  he's  pleasant? 

CC  You're  fine,  no  problem;  your  option,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  just  don't  want  to  run  out  of  consumables 
about  6  or  7  hours. 

LMP-EVA    You're  about  as  -  Oh  well.     Okay.     I  don't  think 
It  makes  any  difference.    You  got  to  use  the  heat. 
Matter  of  fact,  that's  one  of  the  little  known 
facts  of  this  business,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  here  we  go.     Coming  up.     I've  got  the  TV 

camera  in  my  hand,  Bob.    Oh  man.    Hey,  Jack,  Just 
stop.     You  owe  yourself  30  seconds  to  look  up  over 
the  South  Massif  and  look  at  the  Earth. 

LMP-EVA    What?    The  Earth? 
CDR-EVA    Just  look  up  there. 

LMP-EVA    You  seen  one  Earth,  you've  seen  them  all. 

CDR-EVA    Ko  you  haven't,  babe.    When  you  begin  to  believe 
that .    Come  on  camera ,  go  in  there  . . . 

LMP-EVA    I'll  look  in  a  minute,  Gene.    But  I  tell  you,  once 
I  start  this  little  operation,  if  I  don't  finish 
it,  it  never  gets  done. 


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CDR-EVA    Oka;y,  get  in  there.     Okay,  that's  in  there.  That's 
in  there. 

OU  19  28  39    CDR-EVA    Camera  is  locked  down.     Okay,  TCU,  sunshade  the 

camera  and  then  the  cable.    Okay,  let  me  get  the 
sumshade . 

oh  19  28  %    LMP-EVA    That's  always  more  of  a  job  than  it  ought  to  be. 

However,  SCB-3  is  on  the  handhold. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I'm  getting  smarter  about  l/6g. 

LMP-EVA    That  gate  works  great.     Snaps  in,  snaps  closed 

with  the  slightest  flick  of  a  coordinated  wrist. 
Where  is  that  camera  anyway? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  it's  over  here.    Oh,  boy.     I  just  still  barely 
see  the  scissors. 

LMP-EVA    I  ought  to  get  those. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  when  we  go  hungry. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure  I  can. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  don't.     Okay,  we'll  -  we'll  get  them  when 
we  get  the  tongs  out.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    There  are  some  tongs  in  the  Rover,  and  I'll  come 
over  and  get  them  in  a  minute. 

CC  Roger,  Challenger.    And  we  refrained  from  mention- 

ing that  to  Ron. 

CDR-EVA    Tell  him  -  Tell  him  I  hope  he's  enjoying  our 

scissors.  Okay,  Bob,  the  TV  is  connected  to  the 
TCU  electrically.  The  sunshade  is  on.  I've  got 
to  deploy  the  high  gain. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  now,  well  let's  see  how  smart  you  are.  That 
was  a  pretty  good  attitude  you  parked  at. 


CDR-EVA 


Okay,  Jack  is  the  high  gain  away  from  my  antenna. 
Can  you  see? 


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LMP-EVA    Let  me  turn  around.     Yes.     You're  clear. 

CDR-F/A    Okay,  it's  locked.    Locked.    Kow  let  me  see  if  I 
can  find  beautiful  big  dot  up  there.    I  know  what 
I  m  going  to  have  to  do.    I'm  going  to  have  to 
get  the,  oh,  I  got  It  right  there.    Might  be  able 
to  peak  that  but  I  got  that. 

LMP-EVA    You  hit  it,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Put  my  hand  over  it,  so  I  could  see  it. 

IWP-EVA    Hey,  that's  an  interesting  problem.     Your  seat 
won't  stay  up. 

CDR-EVA    How  about  that  piece  of  Velcro  there. 

LMP-EVA  That's  just  what  I'm  working  on  there.  Great 
minds  think  alike.  Okay,  that  goes  in  there. 
The  trouble  is  to  reach  it,  I've  got  to  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  bet  you  it  says  put  MAG  Bravo. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  your's  is  in  a  circle. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  check  LCRU.    Deploy  LCRU  with  antenna?  Okay. 
Deploy  the  LCRU  with  antenna.     Blanket's  open 
100  percent . 

LMP-EVA    Come  on,  baby,  open.    Ponna,  it  goes. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  are  those  mirrors  nice.  I  hope  they  stay 
that  way  for  a  while. 

LMP-EVA    They  won't.     John  and  Charlie  know  exactly  what 
we're  talking  about.    Mark  my  words. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  I'm  going  to  close  the  circuit  breaker. 
Bob. 

Oh  19  32  k3    CDR-EVA    Okay,  circuit  breaker  is  CLOSED. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    POWER  switch  is  INTERNAL.     POWER  switch  is 

INTERNAL.     Okay,  let  me  give  you  some  -  some 


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numbers ,  AGC  is  3  -  about  S.'+i  temp  is  about  1,8; 
and  power  is  about  2.1.     Okay;  POWER  to  EXTERNAL. 

CC  We  copy  those ,  Geno . 

CC  Geno . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  POWER  is  EXTERNAL.    MODE  SWITCH  is  going  to 
two  FM/TV.     Okay.     Man,  did  you  peak  out  at  signal 
strength  of  hO. 

LMP-EVA    I  can't  see  right  now,  but  I  think  I've  still  got 
you  right  in  the  center. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  POWER  switch  on  to  TCU.     Okay,  it's  on  to 
TCU.     Okay,  AGC  and  POWER.     Yes  sir.  Bob,  I'm 
verifying  at  kO.     That's  a  good  Navy  term,  kO  on 
the  AGC. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  the  TV  is  all  yoiir's. 

CC  Roger.     Have  you  got  a  power  reading  there  for 

us  ,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    I  hope.     Okay,  I'll  give  you  a  power  reading, 

EXTERNAL,  if  you  want  it.     I'll  give  you  -  TEMP 
is  still  about  IT  and  POWER  is  about  l8  on 
EXTERNAL. 

CC  Hey,  we  have  a  picture,  IT.     We  have  a  picture. 

CDR-EVA    You  have?    Beautiful,  babe.     It's  all  your's.  I 
hope  it  moves  now. 

CC  It  does. 

CDR-EVA    I  hope  it  moves.     You'll  find  out  -  hey.  It  moves. 
It's  alive. 

CC  And. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  get  SRC  1. 

CC  Okay ,  could  we  have  a  EMU  check  on  you  fellows 

when  convenient? 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.    Commander  is  3.8  plus.     I'm  -  I  must  be 
80  percent  and  no  flags  and  no  tones. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  LMP  is  -  LMP  is  ahout  80,  let  me  see  -  75, 
about  60  percent,  and  no  flags,  no  tones.  I've* 
got  83  percent. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And  you've  sure  got  a  lot  of 

stuff  on  the  Rover  a1  ready . 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  MAG  Helen  has  Just  gone  Into  the  bag  -  into 
the  seat. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    MAG  Cynthia  is  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  SRC  is  open. 

LMP-EVA    Gail  is  in. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  watch  these  SRCs.     I  don't  like  the  lock  on 
this  cable  very  well. 

LMP-EVA    I  never  have. 

CC  Okay,  and  Jack.     You  did  get  that  mag?. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC  Charlie  as  well? 

LMP-EVA    That's  affirm. 

CC  Okay.    And  we  did  not  copy  your  cuff  gage  reading 

down  here. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  you  didn't?    Well,  maybe  that's  because  I 
didn't  give  it  to  you.     3.9-     No  wonder  that's 
so  much  work. 

CC  Go  ahead.     Copy  that. 

OU  19  36  53    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  SRC  1  is  -  She  sure  won't  stay  in  the 

MESA  ... 


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LMP-EVA    Let  me  try  that.     Okay,  that  will  stay  in  there 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     It's  closed.     It  sure  doesn't  seem 
like  it  wants  to  stay  there,  though.     And  the 
organic  sample  has  been  sealed. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-E\'A    I  guess  you  believe  we're  here  now,  huh? 

CC  Now  we  believe  you're  here.     We  see  you  in  person. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Bob,  the  -  Bob,  the  SRC  cover  will  not 

stay  closed.  It  just  slowly  springs  up.  There's 
nothing  I  can  seem  to  do  for  it .  I  might  be  able 
to  set  something,  a  blanket,  on  top  or  something. 

CC  Okay,  stand  by  on  that.     We'll  get  back  with  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  putting  -  yes,  it  just  flops  open. 
I'm  taking  SCB  1  to  the  Tool  Gate. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  me  a  hammer,  and  I'll  give  you  a  gravim- 
eter  reading. 

LMP-EVA    Ko,  you  won't.     Not  until  you're  done.     I'll  go 

get  the  flag  there.     Guess  what?     We're  here  again 

LMP-EVA    The  Buddy  SLSS  is  on  the  Rover.     Okay,  ETB.  Okay, 
CDR's  camera  film  magazine  I  had  to  work  on  a 
little  bit  to  get  it  to  work  but  it's  working. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    If  I  get  that  camera,  you  can  punch  the  gravimeter 
I  think. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Get  the  camera,  and  I'll  give  them  a  grav- 
imeter reading.     Is  that  all  you  need?  Because 
I'll  go  get  the  flag. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you'd  better  let  that  -  yes,  but  why  don't 
when  you  go  -  let  me  get  some  tongs ,  too .  We 
need  to  salvage  those  -  - 


CDR-EVA 


Okay . 


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li^P-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
01+  19  39  08  CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
mP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
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-  -  scissors. 
Okay, 

Okay .    Let  me  steady  the  Rover  . . . 
Okay,  Bob. 

MARK:     Gravimeter  and  the  light  is  flashing. 
Okay.    We  copy  that. 

(Singing)  Oh,  hury  me  not  on  the  lone  prairie. 
Where  the  coyotes  hovl ,  and  the  wind  blows  free 
Okay. 

Okay,  where  am  I? 

You're  doing  a  gravimeter,  getting  the  flag.  I 
got  your  camera.    I'm  going  to  salvage  the 
scissors . 

Okay,  get  the  scissors,  and  I'll  be  putting  the 
flag  in.    And  don't  no  near  the  Rover. 

Don't  go  near  the  water.    That  reminds  me  of  a 
good  book  -  Boy.     I  can't  go  near  the  Rover. 

Let  me  tell  you. 

No,  I  can't  go  near  the  Rover. 

Why  don't  you  set  them   

How  about  you  letting  me  stick  these  in  your 
pocket  with  your  -  - 

No.  Set  them  up  there.  Just  set  them  in  there 
We'll  get  them  when  we  come  back  in. 

Okay,     I'll  tell  you  what  I'm  going  to  do. 

Just  set  them  inside  the  -  put  them  in  the  - 

I'm  going  to  hang  them  here  on  the  hook. 

Okay,  that's  good. 


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LMP-EVA    Right  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack.     Hov  about  the  flag  right  over  here 
in  this  little  mound? 

LMP-EVA    Which  mound? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  let  me  take  a  look  around. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  right  up  there  on  that  little  high 
point.     Right  up  in  here  where  I'm  going. 

■  CDR-EVA    Yes.     Of  course,  your  idea  of  a  high  point  might 
"be  different  than  mine. 

LMP-EVA    I  meant  the  North  Massif.  (Laughter) 

Oh  19  ho  58     CDR-EVA    That's  probably  the  best  place  in  the  world  for 

the  flag,  is  right  up  on  the  top. 

LMP-EVA    Okay ,  let  me  come  over  and  help  you .     How  about 

right  -  how  about  right?    Well,  we'll  find  out  ... 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Hey,  you're  in  the  edge  of  the  crater  though. 
That ' s  no  test . 

MP-EVA    Yes,  that's  all  right.    Move  right  over  here  near 
your  tire  tracks. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     This  is  a  high  point  right  here. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  that's  good.     Right  there. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  that  wasn't  too  good. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  let  me  give  it  a  few  whacks.  Baloney. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Watch  yoiir  fingers.     Now  that  wasn't  too 
bad.     Want  to  make  sure  it  stajids  up.  That's 
getting  pretty  -  I  can  -  I  -  well  -  we'll  -  we 
can  probably  -  what  we  could  do  -  I  don't  know 
how  far  we  could  drill,  but  we  hit  something  solid 
with  that  one. 

CDR-EVA    No,  it  was  still  going. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  did  you  ever  see  a  vibrator  like  that? 


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CDR-EVA    No,  I've  never  put  a  flag  up  on  the  Moon  before. 
LMP-EVA    What?    PvlII  that  in. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)    You'll  have  to  get  it  down  to  my  level. 
Tall  guys  are  all  alike . 

LMP-EVA    Wait,  I'm  not  throiagh. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     How  about  getting  it  stretched  out? 

LMP-EVA    I  will.     I  Just  can't  start  forward  as  fast  as  I 
would  like  to.    Hate  to  touch  it,  my  hands  are 
so  dirty. 

CDR-EVA  Okay? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it's  going  to  want  to  curl.    Maybe  it'll  - 
it  sort  of  looks  like  it's  waving  in  the  breeze. 

CDR-EVA    Yes  sir.     How  about  right  there? 

LMP-EVA    Take  a  couple  this  way,  and  we'll  take  a  couple 
that  way.     How's  that? 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  I  ought  to  get  -  let  me  get  over  to  the  other 
side  -  you  can  get  the  Rover  in  the  background. 

LMP-EVA    Yeah,  and  the  LM. 

CDR-EVA    It  does  wave  when  you  do  that, 

CC  We've  got  a  beautiful  picture  of  you  guys  up  - 

down  there . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  tell  you.  Bob.     This  flag  is  a  beautiful 
picture.     You  see  that? 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  you're  -  it's  partially  covering  the  Rover, 
but  I  think  it ' s  a  pretty  good  shot .  How ' s  that  ? 
Let  me  get  the  focus  right. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  where  to  put  it. 

CDR-EVA    There  you  go.    Wait  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    All  right  I  got  you  reaching  for  the  flag. 


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CDR-EVA  How's  that? 

LMP-EVA  That's  very  good.  Gene.    Let  me  get  it  to  stereo. 

CDR-EVA  Houston   

LMP-EVA  That's  beautiful. 

Oh  19  k3  53    CDR-E\rA    It's  got  to  be  one  of  the  most  proud  moments  of  my 

life.     I  guarantee  you.     Let  you  get  a  close  in 
one  and  we'll  trade  cameras.     Houston,  I  don't 
know  how  many  of  you  are  aware  of  this,  hut  this  - 
this  flag  has  flown  in  the  MOCR  since  Apollo  11. 
And  we  very  proudly  deploy  it  on  the  Moon,  to 
stay  for  as  long  as  it  can,  in  honor  of  all  those 
people  who  have  worked  so  hard  to  put  us  here  and 
to  put  every  other  crew  here  and  to  make  the 
country.  United  States  and  mankind,  something 
different  than  it  was . 

CC  Roger,  IT-     And  presuming  to  speak  in  behaJ-f  of 

some  of  those  that  work  on  the  MOCR,  we  thank 
you  very  much. 

CDR-EVA    Back  right  where  you  were.     Step  to  the  right. 
Right  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  alright.     I'll  keep  it  down, 

LMP-EVA     ...     Get  closer.     I'm  going  to  get  on  the  other 
side . 

CDR-EVA    Well ,  I  want  to  get  something  here . 

LMP-EVA    What's  that? 

CDR — EVA  I  want  to  get  the  Earth. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  get  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    Get  aroimd  on  that  side. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  -  I  don't  think  it's  going  -  you're  a 
little  close,  maybe.     Get  them  both  in  focus. 


CDR-EVA    That  might  do  it.     Try  that  one  time,  then  we'll 
give  up  Eind  get  to  work. 


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LMP-EVA    Higher  up  a  little  - 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-IT/A    Let  me  try  it  again,  okay?     I  don't  know,  Geno, 

okay?    Let  me  get  over  here  closer  to  you.  Okay. 
That  might  have  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  very  good. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Alright,  looks  good.    You  think  your  gravimeter's 
ready  so  I  can  go  back  there? 

CC  Roger,  17.    The  gravimeter's  ready  and  a  couple  of 

words  here.  One,  I  presume  you  found  the  scissors, 
right? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay.     Two  - 

CDR-EVA    Not  Ron's,  we  found  ours. 

CC  Roger.    And  the  second  thing  is  we  do  want  the 

SRC  closed.     And  if  you  can  partially  latch  it, 
I'm  not  sure  tha't  easily  done,  that  would  he  one 
solution.    The  other  would  be  to  put  something 
on  top  of  it  to  hold  it  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I'll  find  something 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.     One  of  the  brackets  off  the  MESA 

would  be  something,  or  a  rock  that's  nearby;  that's 
another  possibility. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Gene,  what  are  you  going  to  be  up  to  now? 

CDR-EVA  I'm  going  to  go  get  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA  . . .  pallet? 

CDR-EVA  -  -  pallet. 

Oh  19  hj  52    LMP-EVA    Okay,  why  don't  -  why  don't  I  give  the  old  -  the 

old  inspection  here  bit.    And  I  really  ought  to 
have  my  camera,  shouldn't  I? 


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CDR-EVA    I  need  a   

IMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Roger.     That's  affirmative. 

CDR-EVA     ...  on  this . 
LMP-EVA    What  would  you  just  - 
CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  find  something. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  take  the  old  CDR's  camera.     Not  a  had  camera 
to  take. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I'm  going  to  take  the  old  gunny  sack  hera 
and  put  it  over.     That'll  hold  it  down. 

CC  I  presume  you're  talking  about  the  big  ba^;,  Cieno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  the  big  bag  that  was  on  the  ladder.  That's 

all  it  needs.     It's  just  a  little  bit.     There's  just 
enough  spring  force  in  it.     Okay,  Houston.     I  think 
you've  had  all  the  good  words  about  the  LM.  We 
have  never  flown  a  better  LM.     I  guess  that's  safe 
enough  to  say.     The  quads  look  great.     The  old 
steerables  are  aimed  right  at  you.  Rendezvous 
radar ' s  in  good  shape .     It's  parked  -  looks  like 
parallel  to  Z.    Just  about  perfectly.    There's  no 
visible  -  I'm  on  the  3  o'clock  position,  plus  Y. 
No  visible  contamination.     There's  a  little  bit  of 
discoloration  of  the  plume  shield  below  the 
thrusters.     The  engine  bell  never  touched  the 
ground.     It's  about  -  15  centimeters  off  the  ground. 

CC  How's  that  for  coming  down  gentle? 

CDR-EVA    That's  what  you  call  okay  number  three  wire.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Hey ,  we  never  heard  what  our  landing  parameters 
were . 

CC  We ' 11  worry  about  that  later . 

CDR-EVA     ...  now  that  we're  here. 


Tape  78A/2U 


IMP-EVA    Oh,  but  they  always  -  they  always  give  them  to  us 
m  the  simulator.     Hey,  Bob,  judging  from  what  I 
see  on  my  clock,  we're  not  but  about  5  minutes 
behind. 


CC 


That  agrees  more  or  less  with  the  way  we  read  it. 


Ok  19  50  03    LMP-EVA    Gene  had  a  little  forward  motion  as  I  think  you 

heard  his  call.    And  that  shows  up  in  the  forward 
footpad  at  any  rate  or  did.     It  looks  like  he  may 
have  hat  tail  first  a  little  bit.     That's  embedded 
to  the  full  pad  depth.     I  see  no  -  By  George,  Gene. 
you  may  have  had  a  first.     I  think  you  stroked 
that  thing. 

CDR-EVA    I  stroked  what? 

LMP-EVA    The  rear  -  the  rear  landing  gear. 
CDR-EVA    Well,  we  can  measure  it  and  find  out. 
LMP-EVA    I'll  take  a  picture  of  it. 

CDR-EVA    May  have  stroked  it.     The  Mylar,  the  lower  orange 
%lar,  is  folded  a  little  bit. 

CC  Roger.     There's  word  floating  around  down  here 

about  a  typical  Navy  landing,  but  I'm  not  sure 
whether  we  believe  it  or  not. 

LMP-EVA    He  caught  his  tail  hook.     Say,  Bob  -  - 

CC  That's  the  best  way. 

MP-EVA    -  -Just  behind  the  LM  in  that  very  fresh  crater, 
1  picked  up  an  example  of  the  kind  of  gabbro  I  was 
talking  about.    And  I'll  stick  it  in  the  big  bag, 
except  the  big  bag  has  disappeared. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I've  got  to  give  you  a  reading.  Bob,  if 
you're  ready. 

CC  Ready . 

LMP-EVA    You  put  the  big  bag  up  -  - 


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CDR-EVA 


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CDR-EVA 


6T0  003  101.     That's  67O  003  101. 
Okay.    We  copy  that. 

Jack,  I  put  that  there  to  hold  the  SRC  down. 

That's  alright,  I  just  put  our  sample  in  it.  It's 
in  the  bottom  of  the  hag.     It's  ahout  8  hy  5  centi- 
meters hy  3  centimeters.     Slightly  tabular. 

Okay.    We  copy  that.     It's  in  the  big  bag. 

Yes  sir. 

Okay,  okay.  Bob.     A  MARK  on  gravity. 
Copy  that . 

And  the  light  is  flashing. 
Copy  that . 

I've  got  to  tell  you.  Bob.     I  haven't  done  every- 
thing there  is  to  do  in  the  Navy,  but  deploying 
that  flag  has  got  to  be  the  most  proud  thing  I'll 
ever  do  in  my  life.     If  you  could  see,  and  you 
could  see  it  from  where  we  are,  I  know  you'd  feel 
the  same  way. 

Roger  on  that,  Geno- 

( Laughter ) 

God,  he's  pretty  up  there.     God,  you're  pretty  up 
there  over  the  South  Massif.  Beautiful. 

Hope  nobody  saw  that. 

Beautiful. 

Oh,  they  were  watching  me.     (Laughter)  Those 
finks.     Okay,  you  weren't  doing  anything  with  this 
gravimeter  on  here ,  I  hope . 

No,  its  on  the  deck. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay, 


Tape  78a/ 26 


CC  Okay,  you  might  grab  me  a  ...  when  you  set  it  on 

there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Too  late.  Bob. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  I'll  get  it  later. 

CC  We'll  get  it  later.    No  hurry. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  now  if  I  can  figure  how  to  get  this  off. 
You've  got  to  educate  us  again. 

LMP-EVA    We  may  not  remember  those. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  the  sceptre's  in  hand. 

CC  Roger  on  that. 

MP-EVA    Okay.     I'll  give  you  a  temperature.     Let's  see 
whether  it  fits,     1*11  bet  it  does. 

CDR-EVA    Come  on.     Lock,  baby.     Okay,  it's  ON  - 

CC  Copy  that. 

ok  19  5I+  2k    CDR-EVA  LOCK. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Here's  a  temperature  for  you.  Forty 
degrees . 

CC  Say  again. 

LMP-EVA  kO. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Both  covers.     Okay,  number  1  -  something  over 

here.  Never  did  figuire  out  what.  Okay,  Bob,  tho 
shade  is  deployed  facing  deep  space. 


CC 


Copy.    Roger.     Understand  the  cosmic  ray. 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     The  antenna  is  deployed.     It's  not  on 
the  post  yet,  but  it's  deployed. 


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DIP- EVA    Oh,  oh,  come  on.     Don't  get  -  don't  get  all  caught 
on  something.     That's  better,  that's  better.  Okay, 
Bob.     I  think  -  just  about  got  a  -  the  sunside 
deployed,  just  as  perpendiculaj-  to  the  Sun  as  I 
think  anybody  could  do. 

CC  Okay .     Copy  that .    Good  enough . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  don't  have  any  pictures  yet,  so  you  might 
put  that  down  as  something  to  get  later. 

CC  Yes,  we'll  catch  that  in  the  PAN  with  the  next  EVA 

or  something  like  that . 

LMP-EVA    Man  if  that  -  Boy,  if  that  antenna  doesn't  get  some 
noise  from  outer  space,  I  don't  know  what  will. 
If  they  axe  out  there,  and  they  are  I'm  sure. 
They'll  see  that  one.     That  is  even  weirder  looking 
out  here  than  it  is  in  the  high  bay.    Hey,  Bob, 
before  I  leave  the  ALSEP,  remind  me  to  check  the 
cosmic  ray.     I  might  hit  it  here  in  the  process 
of  deployment. 

CC  Okay ,  try  not  to . 

LMP-EVA  I  got  a  little  close. 

CC  Okay , 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  I  will.     Okay,  the  doors  are  open,  beautifully. 

MP- EVA    I  don't  know  what  talent  you  have  for  landing  in 
holes,  Cernan,  but  once  again  I'll  be  doing  all 
the  ALSEP  work  in  the  hole. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  .  Are  you  saying  we  should  have  kept  the  pulleys 

there.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Yes,  I  need  the  pulleys. 

CDR-EVA  You  know.  Bob,  I've  got  a  little  bit  of  a  problfm 
here.  I've  got  the  SEP  connector  on,  (Lauf;;hter) 
But  it  -  it  -  it'll  -  it'll  -  it'll  slide  -  slide 
down  in,  but  the  locking  cover  just  won't  go  over. 


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CC  Roger,  Geno.     Understand.     It  slides  in  far  enough, 

you  think  it's  aligned,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  positive  it's  aligned.     It  just  -  it  didn't 
appear  to  lock  over,  well  not  appear,  it  just  won't 
lock  over.    I'm  shoving  it  home.    Okay,  I  got  it. 

CC  Okay.  Copy. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it.    Makes  everyone  happier. 

CC  I'm  glad  we  have  the  right  solution  to  that  one. 

Gene. 

CDR-EVA    The  right  solution  is  the  fact  that  you've  got  a 
man  here  doing  it. 

CC  Laughter . 

Oh  19  58  30    CDR-EVA    Okay.     Hey,  Bob.     The  ECS  TEMP  MONITOR  switch  is 

ON. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    There's  an  easy  way  and  a  hard  to  do  everything. 

Don't  know  why  we  don't  do  it  the  easy  way.  Pay- 
day.    RTG  is  on  the  surface. 

CC  Copy  that. 

IMP-EVA    Central  station  is  . . .  Gene's  little  pet  Job  makes 
these  things  slide  out  by  themselves  almost. 


CC 


Better  thank  him  next  time  you  see  him. 


CDR-EVA    Okay.     Hey,  Jack,  you  notice  there's  none  of  those 
guys  up  there  holding  those  hoses  as  we  go  around 
the  LM. 

LMP-EVA    What  do  you  mean?     I  saw  one  just  a  minute  ar,o. 
CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     You  want        5,  6,  and  7. 
CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  1*,  5,  6.  and  7.     It's  coming  off. 
CC  Roger  on  that. 


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CDR-EVA  Okay. 

oh  20  00  36    CDR-EVA    Just  took  time  out  for  a  snack  and  a  little  water. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     How's  the  TV  working? 

CC  Beautiful  -  To  coin  a  phrase,  it's  a  panorajnic 

scene  of  "beauty. 

LMP-EVA  Come  on  now.  Boh. 

CDR-EVA  Say,  Bob,  what  do  you  think  of  the  terrain? 

CC  Looks  flat.    Looks  very  flat  and  smooth. 

CDR-EVA  That ' s  why  you ' re  an  astronomer . 

LMP-EVA  That's  why  you're  -  (laughter).     Oh,  well. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  give  you  a  reading  on  the  TGE  if  you're 
ready. 

CC  Roger ,  ready . 

CDR-EVA    Don't  kick  dust  on  it.     Hope  I  can  read  it  down 

here.     Okay.     Okay,  Bob.     Bob,  you're  going  to  have 
to  bear  with  me.    When  I  leaned  over  to  punch  it, 
I  hit  GRAVITY  instead  of  READ,  so  I  guess  I  got 
to  wait  it  out. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  set  the  timer  again. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  -  I  should  have  been  more  -  more  careful. 

Okay.  Orient  pallet  to  the  Sun.  If  you  can  see  it, 
it's  directly  at  the  Sun  so  that  ought  to  be  good. 

CC  Okay ,  copy  that . 

CDR-rEVA    The  SRC  doesn't  have  to  be  all  the  way  closed  does 
it? 

CC  No.     Not  all  the  way.     Just  as  long  as  it'y  mofit 

of  the  way  closed.     You  can  have  a  crack  there  in 
the  top. 


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CDR  Okay,  that's  what  it  is.     Man,  I'll  tell  you. 

This  -  this  thing  got  low  all  of  a  sudden.  How 
are  you  coming,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Great. 

CDR-EVA    You  get  it  fueled  yet? 
LMP-EVA    No.     Okay,  coming  soon  though. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  know  if  you  have  any  problems  with  that. 
LMP-EVA    All  right,  I  will. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Come  on  bag.    You're  all  I  got.    Man,  I  - 
there  we  go.     (Hum)    Bob,  that  gravimeter  went 
right  to  steady.    It  blinked  once  and  went  right 
to  steady,  so  I  don't  expect  it'll  be  too  long. 

CC  Okay,  I'll  give  you  a  call  in  a  couple  of  minutes 

there.    Ought  to  be  done. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And  Jack.     I  understand  you  have  the  RTG  fueled? 

LMP-EVA  Negative. 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  supposed  to  call  you  when  I  have  it  fueled. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  do  you  have  a  -  am  I  missing  a  map  I  should 
have  up  here? 

LMP-EVA    There  should  be  two  maps.    They're  under  the  seat. 

I  put  them  in  there  so  they  wouldn't  bounce  off. 
I  n  sorry.     I  forgot  to  tell  you. 

Ok  20  Qh  06    CDR-EVA    Okay.  I  got  them.     Hello,  Houston. 
CC  Hello,  Challenger. 

LMP-EVA    I  wish  I  could  go  back  and  make  that  landinfr  about 
6  or  7  times  so  I  could  take  in  all  that  I  missed. 


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CDR-EVA    So  do  I.     I  might  as  well  have  stayed  at  the  Cape. 

Okay.  Let's  see.  Core  bore  neutron  flux,  and  I'll 
get  the  drill  and  I ' 11  go  hack  and  . . . 

CC  Geno,  you  know  you  might  wander  by  the  gravimeter. 

I  think  it  might  be  done  by  now.    You  might  Just 
check  the  light  and  see  if  it's  steady,  or  on 
or  not. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'll  go  by  there  right  now.  Bob  - 

IMP-EVA    For  future  reference ,  Bob ,  the  dome  removal  tool 
doesn ' t  -  it ' 11  turn .     Shoot . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  let's  see.     It's  not  lit.     Can  I  take 
a  reading? 

CC  Roger.     If  the  light's  out ,  give  us  a  reading. 

ok  20  06  01    CDR-EVA    Well,  let's  see  if  I  can  push  the  right  button  this 

time.     Okay,  it's  670  017  201,  670  017  201.  And 
it  was  about  75  percent  in  the  shade  of  the  Rover. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that.    And  now  we're  ready  for  bias. 

CDR-EVA    How,  you  want  -  okay,  a  bias  coming  at  you  on  the 
ground,  correct? 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    It's  blinking  -  it's  blinking.  Bob. 
CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  the  core  bag  and  the  neutron  flux,  and  - 
LMP-EVA    Gene,  I  need  yoiir  hammer. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  need  my  help?     Okay,  coming  over.  What's 
the  problem? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  the  dome  removal  tool  never  latched  into  the 
dome,  but  it  turned  it.  I  think  it's  pretty  badly 
chewed  up.     I'm  not  sure  what  happened. 


CDR-EVA 


Oh,  boy. 


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LMP-EVA    So,  let  me  have  your  hammer  because  I'm  going  to 
have  to  pry  off  the  dome- 

CDR-EVA    Can't  you   

LMP-EVA    No.     I  -  I,  you  see  I  -  I've  stripped  it,  I  think. 
I  didn't  think  I  could  do  it. 

CDR-EVA    No.    Wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute. 
Let  me  - 

LMP-EVA    See,  it's  stripped.     See,  but  it's  open.     Wait  a 
minute.    See,  no  wait,  see.    Just  put  your  blade 
in  there.     Don't  touch  it.     Put  the  blade  in  there 
and  pry.     It'll  come,  I  hope. 

CDR-EVA    Be  careful.     Here,  let  me  get  it  once  from  this 
side.     Can  I  - 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  don't  get  so  close.     Move  your  hand  -  There, 
you  got  it.     Nice  work. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  it's  off.     It's  off. 

LMP-EVA  Nice  work. 

CDR-EVA  Whoo . 

CC  Roger.     Once  again  we  have  the  right  solution. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure.  Bob,  what  happened.    You  might  ask 
them  that  if  you  only  partially  get  the  dome 
removal  tool  on,  if  you  can  strip  the  whole  thing 
out? 

CC  Okay,  we'll  look  at  it  . . . 

LMP-EVA    It  won't  make  much  difference  any  more. 

CC  We'll  make  sure  of  its  change  on  the  next  dome 

removal  tool. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  just  taking  a  breather. 

CC  Okay,  we're  watching  you. 


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LMP-EVA    That  was  a  strange  one.  Gene.     Did  you  see  how  I 
mangled  that  thing? 

Cm-mA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  TRG  is  out. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  trip. 

LMP-EVA    Wouldn't  think  of  it . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  where  was  I?    I've  got  to  go  hack  and  get 
the  drill,  if  I'm  not  mistaken.    Yes  sir,  and 
then  I'll  be  caught  up  with  the  TGE.  Okay, 
Houston.     The  RTG  is  inserted.     The  element, 
that  is  - 

CC  Okay,  we'll  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Bob ,  I ' 11  -  I ' 11  give  you  my  word .     Before  we 

leave  here,  I'll  make  sure  that  the  SRC  is  closed. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     As  long  as  it's  got  only  an 

inch  or  two  showing  there,  should  be  no  problem. 
That  looks  fine  .  . . 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I've  got  to  put  something  on  it  to  get  it 
down  to  that  far. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that  cajne  out  like  a  dream.     Man,  is  this  MESA 

low  when  you  go  -  Come  on ,  baby . 

ok  20  09  33    LMP-EVA    SEQ  bay  doors  are  closed. 

CC  Roger .     Copy  that . 

LMP-EVA    And  I'm  checking  out  the  cosmic  ray.     Cosmic  ray 
looks  good. 

CC  Beautiful. 


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LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  snuck  a  queek  -  quick  peek  at  the  drill, 
and  it  does  work.    What  in  the  world  is  that? 

CDR-EVA    That's  Ron. 

LMP-EVA  Ron? 

CDR-EVA    That's  Ron.    Got  his  VHF  on,  that  fink.    Hey,  you 
might  tell  Ron  we  can  hear  him. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Drill  -  LMP  seat.    With  seat  belt  -  Bob, 
you  still  with  us? 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  ALSEP  is  put  together  in  the  barbell  mode. 

And  Charlie  Duke,  I  have  checked  it  -  and  it  is 
locked. 

CDR-EVA  Hello,  there,  Ron.     If  you  read,  we're  reading  you. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  (singing)  "We're  off  to  see  the  Wizard." 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  do  you  need  me.  Gene? 

CDR-EVA  No.     I'm  going  to  go  deploy  an  ALSEP. 

LMP-EVA  Have  at  it. 

CDR-EVA  First,  I've  got  to  find  an  ALSEP  site. 

LMP-EVA  Don't  fall  into  Camelot . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.    I'd  like  to  read  a  TGE. 

CC  Roger,    You're  ready  to  read  the  TGE?    We  are. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  you  won't  believe  it. 

LMP-EVA  You  did  it  again. 

CDR-EVA  Ah  -  there  goes  a  fender.    Oh,  shoot! 

LMP-EVA  Say,  Bob,  I'm  moving  down-Sun, 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I'll  get  that  in  a  minute. 


Tape  T8A/35 


LMP-EVA    I'm  moving  dovn-Sun,  and  where  we've  walked,  we 

stir  up  darker  material  -  just  slightly,  hut  it's 
da^rker.    The  same  old  thing,  the  most  mature  - 
that  most  regoliths  have. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    Have  you  got  a  bias  reading 

there.  Gene? 

oh  20  11  3h    CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  giving  it  to  you  right  now  -  337,  ^5*+, 

001  -  that's  33T,  ^+5^+,  001 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  I  hate  to  say  it,  but  I'm  going  to  have  to 
take  some  time  to  try  -  I'm  going  to  have  to  - 
I'm  going  to  have  to  try  to  get  that  fender 
back  on. 

CC  Okay.    Was  it  the  rear  fender,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Caught  it  with  my  hammer,  and  it  just 
popped  right  off. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  for  future  reference  -  it's  a  piece  of  cake 
putting  the  TGE  on  or  off. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  is  the  tape  under  my  seat,  do  you  remember? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  may  need  it.     Okay.     Let's  set  my  hydroxide 
canister  to  middle  -  I'm  in  MAX  -  MAX  cooling. 
Man,  you're  romping  around  like  a  -  how  are  you 
doing? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  fine.     It's  just  -  it's  work  going  out  here. 
CDR-EVA    Yea,  I'll  bet  it  is.    Just  take  it  easy. 
LMP-EVA    I  am. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  be  a  little  bit  behind  you  if  I  have 
to  work  on  that  fender,  anyway. 


CC  Yes,  you  can  walk  a  bit  more  slowly  than  you're 

walking.  Jack. 


Tape  78A/36 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  more  and  more  -  What's  that? 

I  said  that  you  cam  walk  more  slowly  than  you 
started  out ,  anyway . 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  texturially,  scane  of  these  rock  that  I 

believe  -  gabbros  -  have  a  texture  not  unlike  a  - 
a  welded  tuff.    But  I  don't  think  -  I  know  they're 
not.    But  they've  got  some  mottled  characteristic 
to  them  that  I  haven't  yet  figured  out. 

CMP-EVA    Yes,  if  it  wasn't  for  that  fender,  I'd  be  ready  to 
go.    Makes  me  sort  of  mad. 

CC  I  say  there,  Jack,  that  looks  like  a  big  rock  there 

beyond  you. 

LMP-EVA    That's  the  one  we  were  talking  about.  Earlier. 
CC  We  believe  you  now. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I've  done  this  in  training.     I  can't  say 

I'm  very  adept  at  putting  fenders  back  on.    But  I 
sure  don't  want  to  start  without  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  shoot! 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    I  think  I'm  going  to  move  a  little 
bit  to  the  northwest  of  my  present  position  in 
order  to  get  a  little  farther  away  from  that 
big  rock. 


LMP-EVA  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  And  to  get  out  of  the  shallow  depression   

CC  Roger. 

LMP-EVA  -  -  get  out  of  the  shallow  depression  that's  here. 

CC  Roger.     It's  not  so  shallow.    You  disappeared  out 

of  sight  from  the  last  . . . 


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Oh  20  16  10    LMP-EVA    Well  it's  shallow  relative  to  other  depressions 

I've  been  in.     You  know,  this  ALSEP  is  almost  as 
heavy  as  what  we  had  at  the  Cape .     I  lost  one  of 
my  blocks.     Oh  well,  I'll  -  I'll  get  it  on  a  rock, 
or  I'll  retrace  your  steps. 


CDR-EVA    Don't  worry  about  that,     I'll  be  able  to  -  there 
are  enough  rocks  around.    I  can  use  it. 

CC  Copy  that.  Jack.    And  Gene,  if  you're  having 

trouble  with  that  fender  and  you  think  it  might 
be  easier  with  two  guys ,  you  could  wait  until 
you  get  out  to  the  ALSEP  site. 

CDR-EVA    No  sir,  I  got  it  on,  but  a  little  piece  of  the 
rail  is  cracked  off.    And  I'm  just  going  to  put 
a  couple  of  pieces  of  good  old-fashioned  American 
gray  tape  on  it  -  see  whether  we  can't  make  sure 
it  stays.    Because  I  don't  want  to  lose  it.  Ex- 
cept good  old-fashioned  gray  tape  doesn't  want 
to  stick  very  well. 

LMP-EVA    I've  not  seen  any  sign  of  layering  in  any  of  the 
craters .    In  their  walls . 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    The  rocks  still  seem  to  be  the  pinkish-gray  - 
the  pinkish-gray  gabbro  out  here. 

CDR-EVA    Good  old-fashioned  American  gray  tape  doesn't 

stick  to  lunar-dust-cover  fenders.     One  more  try. 
I  think  it'll  stay,  for  an  indefinite  period  of 
time,  right  now.    Rot  bad  for  EV  gloves. 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  see  me.  Bob? 

CC  We're  watching  Gene,  right  now.     You  disappeared 

out  of  sight  a  long  while  ago.    Hey,  you  just 
came  into  sight  again.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  leave  me  enough  room  to  deploy  the  heat  flow. 


LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to,  I'm  looking  for  a  place.     Away  from 
craters  and  rocks . 


Tape  78A/38 


LMP-EVA    That's  why  I  didn't  land  up  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  I  think  I've  got  a  place.  And  I  think  it 
will  also  give  you  a  spot  for  the  KEUTIZON  flux 
that's  sheltered  from  the  RTG. 

CC  Okay.    You  say  you  have  a  place  like  that.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  -  pretty  much,  I  think.  Boh. 

CC  Okay. 

UVIP-EVA  Let  me  work  on  it  here  a  little  more. 

oh  20  19  36    CC  Okay,  and  right  now  you're  about  10  minutes 

behind  the  time  line.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  only  going  to  spend  another  minute  or 
two  on  the  fender. 

LMP-EVA    We'll  catch  up. 

CDR-EVA    I  never  thought  I ' d  be  out  here  doing  this . 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  I'll  tell  you,  Geno  -  Okay,  I'm  going  to  go 
back  this  way.     Central  Station  can  be  near  a 
crater.    It  will  be  pretty  good,  that'll  put  the 
LEAM  right  out  over  there,  which  is  probably  all 
right.    The  graviometer  out  over  there,  which  is 
probably  all  right.    Going  to  put  your  drill  holes 
a  little  too  close  to  that  rock,  though.    Bob,  ask 
Mark  if  he's  worried  about  mcks  as  much  as  craters 

CC  Okay,  stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  a  rock  about  2  meters  in  diameter, 

partially  buried  -  that  one  of  the  probes  may  be 
near. 

CC  Stand  by  and  define  near. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it  could  be  10  feet. 
CC  Okay. 


Tape  t8a/39 


LMP-EVA    Well,  I  can  move  a  little  more  south,  I  guess. 

CC  Okay.    And  Jack,  it  seems  like  a"bout  -  if  you're 

about  3  meters  from  the  rock,  that's  no  problem. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Okay,  this  is  it. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  tell  you  the  block  -  the  -  let's  see,  the  Sun's 
south,  this  way.    South  of  east.    Okay.  Well, 
shoot ! 

CDR-EVA    What's  wrong? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  just  about  impossible.     Bob,  it  looks 
like  the  probes  are  going  to  be  in  a  shsillow  de- 
pression.    I'll  try  to  improve  that  a  little. 
It's  not  a  real  crater  -  it's  j^st  a  shallow 
depression. 

CC  Stand  by.    Stemd  by  on  that.  Jack,  a  minute. 

That  may  be  okay.    Okay,  shallow  depression's 
all  right.  Jack,  don't  worry  about  it. 

LMP-EVA    It's  not  more  than  a  meter  deep. 

CC  That's  okay.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Stay  there. 

LMP-EVA    All  righty.     It  looks  pretty  good  to  me. 
CC  Okay.    Good  enough. 

LMP-EVA    It's  just  -  Bob,  it's  really,  in  detail  -  The 
meter  and  half-meter  scale  relief  is  a  little 
more  than  we  can  stand  here  for  a  good  site. 
But  I  think  -  I  think  this  will  be  all  right. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    We're  ready  to  press  on  with 

ALSEP  INTERCONNECT.  And  Geno,  how  are  you  doing 
on  that  fender? 


Tape  T8A/J+0 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  am  done.     If  that  fender  stays  on,  I'm 
going  to  take  a  picture  of  it  because  I'd  like 
some  sort  of  mending  award.     It's  not  too  neat, 
but  tape  and  lunar  dust  Just  don't  hand  in  there 
together. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  let's  hope.    Keep  your  fingers  crossed,  and 
I'll  be  more  careful  around  the  fenders. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Whoops.    Bob,  I'm  going  to  do  one  other  thing 

real  qinck  here.    I've  got  to  dust  my  visor  off. 

LMP-EVA    Gene ,  do  you  want  me  to  do  that? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I  can  do  it.    I'll  Just  do  it  right  here. 

Only  have  to  do  it  in  a  couple  of  places  right 
In  front  of  me.    That  didn't  do  much  good,  did 
it.    Someone  should  have  told  me  that.    That  just 
really  screwed  it  up.    Okay.    Bob,  you  might  ought 
to  be  thinking  of  a  good  way  to  clean  that  visor 
when  I  get  in  the  cabin. 


CC 


Okay,  we'll  put  someone  on  that 


Ok  20  2k  20    CDR-EVA    Okay,  LRV  equipment  check.    Blankets  are  open 

100  percent;  TV/sunshade  is  on;  SEP  receiver/ 
antenna  -  nav  cable;  we've  got  k,  5,  6,  and  7  on 
the  charges;  TC^  -  I've  got  three  measurements 
complete,  I've  got  the  drill,  the  bag,  and  the 
neutron  flux.    The  TV  camera  -I'm  taking  it  away 
from  you. 

CC  Okay.  Roger. 

Ol*  20  2h  kj    CDR-EVA    Sorry  about  that,  Ed.     Okay.    MODE  switch  is 

going  to  1. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.  MODE  switch  is  1.  I'm  ready  to  drive  to  the 
ALSEP  site.  Still  want  to  park  60  northeast  -  east 
and  north. 


Tape  T8A/Ui 


CC  Okay,  Geno.    And  'before  you  leave  the  LM  there, 

how  attout  giving  me  another  BAT  TEMP  reading. 
Those  were  a  little  high  and  we'd  like  to  try 
and  verify  some  of  that  stuff. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  oh  boy.    Yes,  I  get  you  Boh.    Boy,  oh  hoy. 

You  just  got  to  he  careful  where  you  kick  dust. 

LMP-EVA  That's  right. 

CDR-EVA  Boy!     Don't  do  that  again. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  Boh,  I  thought  they  were  a  little  high,  too. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    BAT  TEMP  are  100  and  120  -  right  now. 

CC  Okay.    How  about  tapping  the  meter  a  little  bit 

for  us? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  think  the  meter's  been  tapped  since  we've 
been  working  on  the  Rover.    Yes  -  100  and  120. 

CC  Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Get  this  baby  started. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  be  heading  west.  The 
low  gain  -  is  270. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  I'm  on  the  way. 

CC  Okay,  and  Geno ,  we'd  like  to  vary  the  parking  a 

little  bit  because  of  this.    We'd  like  to  try  and 
get  those  batteries  cooled  down.    We'd  like  to 
have  you  park  about  60  feet  north  of  the  Central 
Station, 

CDR-EVA    Park  about  50  feet  from  Central  Station  . , . 

CC    .         And  facing  east.    Down  -  Sun.     And  then  we'll  open 
the  battery  covers  -  - 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  can't  read  you,  but  facing  east  and 
down-Sun  are  not  the  same. 


Tape  78A/U2 


CC  Well,  approximately  there - 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  you  need  your  block?    I  got  it  right  here. 

CC  Facing  -  - 

LMP-EVA  You're  on  the  Rover,  aren't  you? 

CC  Facing   

CDR-EVA  I  got  it,  valt  a  minute. 

CC  Hey,  Geno,  we  mean  up-Sun.    Sorry  about  that- 

CDR-EVA  I  got  your  block  coming.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Boy,  it  doesn't  take  much  to  get  those  battery 
covers  dirty. 

CC  Okay,  Gene,  did  you  copy  me  that  we  meant  facing 
up-Sun? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  Bob. 

LMP-EVA    What  did  you  do ,  get  ... 

CC  Okay,  I  got  that. 

Ok  20  29  07    LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  shorting  plug  meter  is  90  percent  scale 

to  the  right. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  give  me  that  parking  heading  again, 
would  you? 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  you  to  park  facing  the  Sun.  How's 

that  for  being  definite. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  About  60  feet  north  of  the  Central  Station. 


Tape  T8A/i+3 


CDR-EVA    Sixty  feet  north  of  Central  Station  -  I  can't  park 
a  little  northeast?    Now,  okay,  and  you  want  the 
battery  covers  open? 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Gene.     And  that  means  you.  will 

have  to  dust  them  "before  you  open  them. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  guess  so.    Man,  am  I  glad  I  didn't  land 
up  here.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    So  am  I. 

ok  20  30  OU    CDR-EVA    Okay,  ALSEP  is  connected,  RTG  is  connected.  Is 

that  where  you're  going  to  have  the  Central  Sta- 
tion, huh? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  Geno,  that's  the  best  I  can  do  without 
spending  a  lot  more  time . 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    And  let  me  -  let  me  talk  to  you  about  it.  Say, 
I  asked  them  about  this  depression. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    You  probe's  all  right  out  in  here.    And  if  you 

get  in  the  bottom  of  it  for  the  -  eigher  this  one , 
or  go  out  there  -  especially  in  the  straight  line 
between  you  and  me  now,  another  depression  would 
be  good  for  the  neutron  flux.     You  need  to  be  over 
that  way  -  you're  just  a  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  they  went  -  they  want  me  to  park  about  here 
where  -  - 

LMP-EVA  You  need  to  be  over  here . 

CDR-EVA  Where's  Central  Station,  right  there,  huh? 

LMP-EVA  You  need  to   

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I've  got  to  park  in  the  Sun  for  the  batteries, 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Okay,  ITj  for  your  planning  - 


Tape  78AAU 


LMP-EVA    Ok^,  about  60  feet  northeast.    How  does  it  look 
behind  you. 

CC  Okay,  17,  for  your  planning,  we're  -  we're  now  about 

20  minutes  behind  the  time  line  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  good. 

CDR-EVA    You're  cutting  out.  Bob.    You'll  have  to  wait. 
CDR-EVA    What  are  you.  Bob? 

CC  Roger,  we're  about  20  minutes  behind  the  time  line, 

two— zero  minutes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Yes,  I  guess  it  could  be  worse  considering 
a  couple  of  things.    Okay,  about  time  I  got  those 
batteries.    Okay,  Jack,  let  me  give  you  this  first, 
so  I  can  get  to  work, 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  the  block. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    I'm  sorry,  I  forgot  you  had  It.     Thank  you. 
CDR-EVA    Okay,  where  are  we? 

CDR-EVA    MARK.     Sixty  north  heading,  okay,  15  VOLT  is  OFF. 

Let  me  double  check  that  while  I  was  thinking  of 
something.    Wouldn't  want  this  Rover  to  go  rolling 
over  the  terrain  without  me.    Okay,  it  is  OFF. 
MODE  switch,  position  3.    Dust  TV/TCU,  and  the 
whole  works,  huh?    There  is  TV  REMOTE. 

Ok  20  32  5i*    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.    You're  aligned  on  the  high  gain. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  And  you're  in  position  3. 

CC  Cow  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let  me  get  these  covers  dusted. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that's  a  consolation.     It's  not  as  hard  to 
get  at  the  covers  as  one  might  think. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  T8B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIONS 

OU  20  39  29    CKP  Well,  I  can  see  Reiner  Gamma  real  well  out 

window  3. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  I  should  be  able  to  get  back  there  next  rev,  I 

guess . 

CC  Roger.    Look  like  a  gamma  up  there?    Is  that  why 

they  call  it  a  gamma? 

CMP  Hey,  that  sure  does.    Oddly  enough,  it  almost 

looks  like  an  elongated  crater  in  this  -  this 
light. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  You  know,  with  the  gamma  part  of  it  ... 

CC  Now,  we've  got  both  of  -  we  got  two  -  or  a 

number  of  picture-taking  sections  here  next 
rev,  but  we  got  that  sequence  on  Copernicus  and 
that  seq.uence  on  Reiner  Gamma  there. 

CMP  Aha .     Okay . 

CMP  And  now,  I'll  see  if  I  can  find  Riccioli . 

CMP  I  should  be  able  to  see  Grimaldi ,  I  think, 

CC  Getting  pretty  easy  to  locate  yourself  as  you 

go  along  your  track? 

CMP  Yes,  it's  starting  to  get  that  way.     It's  not 

as  good  as  I  -  as  I  want  it  yet.     Every  once  m 
awhile,  you  look  out  of  the  window,  you  don't 
have  the  slightest  idea  where  you  are  (chuckle), 

CC  Right . 

CMP 


Yes,  I  can  see  Grimaldi  and  Riccioli  coming  up 
now.    Just  passing  over  the  edge  of  the  mare  ., 


Tape  78B/2 


CC  Roger.     That's  Grimaldi  mare  there? 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 
CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


Yes,  I  can  see  it  coming  up. 


CC  Okay , 


There's  a  pretty  stark  difference  between  the 
mare  and  the  -  I  guess  you  might  as  veil  go 
ahead  and  call  them  highlands,  that's  what  they 
look  like. 

East  of  Procellarum,  in  fact  Just  hefore  you 
get  to  Grimaldi. 


01+  20  kk  32    CMP  Okay,  I  want  to  switch  to  window  3.    A  little 

better  to  try  and  get  the  pictures. 

CC  Roger . 


Getting  too  much  glare  on  the  windows. 

Okay,  Bob.  That  is  correct.  Now,  you  want  to 
continue  on  across  here  at  a  15th,  huh? 


CC  Roger. 

Ok  20  1|8  53    CC  Okay,  Ron.    No  . .  .  for  picture  taking,  but  you 

need  to  select  OMNI  A  when  you  get  a  chance. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  There  you  go. 

CC  Good  show. 


Say,  I  can  only  take  l8  pictures  on  tliat ,  I 
think. 


CC  Say  again,  Ron. 


It  will  only  take  l8  pictures,  I  think. 


CC  Roger 
CMP 


(Laiighter)  Fool  around  in  here  by  yourself,  and 
you  get  disoriented. 


Tape  T8B/3 


Ok  20  5k  05    CMP  Well,  I  didn't  see  any  slices  down  there  that 

time. 


CC  Roger . 

CC  Hey,  you're  looking  good,  Ron.    You're  right  on 

the  Flight  Plan.    We  haven't  missed  a  thing  yet 
today,  I  don't  think.    In  really  good  shape. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    Good.    I  tell  you,  there's  a  little 

more  hussling  up  here  than  I  thought  there  vould 
be  though. 

CC  Keeping  you  busy,  huh? 

CMP  (Laughter)    Xes ,  a  little  bit.     That's  all 

right.     It's  fun. 

CC  Just  don't  want  you  to  get  lonely  up  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Sure  won't. 

CMP  Okay.     That  weis  mag  Zebra  Zebra,  I  guess. 

Started  out  just  like  we  had  it  planned.  Took 
two  each  in  1  second  and  a  half,  and  then  a 
fourth,  and  then  an  eighth.    The  total  count  on 
this  camera  is  going  to  be  50  instead  of  60. 


CC  Back  at  150. 

CMP  And  then  the  rest  of  them  -  - 

CC  Yes. 

CMP    And  then  the  rest  of  them  are  l60  -  150 

throughout,  except  the  last  2  foot  and  a  half. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  I'll  get  a  confirmation  on  some,  Ron,  but  I 


think  when  we  get  on  to  Reiner  Gamma  on  that 
pass  of  target  15  Delta,  we're  not  going  to  have 
enough  film  left  to  run  out  over  Riccioli  and 
that  area,  which  is  already  taken.     That's  why  we 
hate  to  take  these  now,  because  when  -  when  we 
come  up  there  in  the  next  pass,  you'^re  not  going 
to  have  enough  film. 


Tape  78B/U 


CMP  Oh,  I  see.  Okay. 

CMP  Let's  see.    While  I  got  the  camera  out,  I  can 

look  ahead,  I  guess,  and  see  what  -  what  mag  to 
put  in  there. 

Ci'tP  WW,  I  guess,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  that's  affirm.    WW  on  the  lunar  ... 

CMP  Okay.     Give  you  that. 

CC  Ron,  coram  is  getting  pretty  bad  down  here  with 

us,  we're  going  to  lose  you  in  about  h  minutes, 
maybe  5,  completely.    And  we'll  pick  you  back  up 
at  -  120:28  thereabouts,  120:28. 

CMP  120:28.    Okay.    We'll  see  you  there. 

CC  Roger . 

OU  21  01  52    CC  Ron,  you're  about  ready  to  go  over  the  hill. 

You're  looking  really  good. 

CMP  Okay ,  Robert .     Thank  you  much .     See  you  in  about 

1+5  minutes  then ,  I  guess . 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

Oh  21  20  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  IT 

Ok  21  50  05    CC  Hello,  Ron.     How's  it  going  up  there? 

CMP  Hey,  pretty  good,  Robert.     The  last  photo  pass 

was  a  -  a  good  one . 

CMP  Just  about  half  an  Earth  now. 

CC  ^Roger . 

oh  21  53  01    CMP  Houston,  America.     The  mag  Lima  Lima  is  on 

frame  number  5^  now. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy.     Lima  Lima  on  5^. 


Tape  T8B/5 


CMP  And  mag  -  and  mag  Quebec,  Quebec  is  starting  on 

frame  53. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

Ok  22  02  l6    CMP  Houston,  America.     I  got  to  unplug  you  for  a 

little  bit.  I'm  so  tangled  up  in  my  hoses  here, 
I'm  getting  strangled  to  death. 

CC  Okay.    Ko  problem,  Ron.    We'll  just  sit.  Give 

us  a  call  when  you're  back  on  the  air.  Okay? 

ok  22  08  01    CMP  Houston,  do  you  need  OMNI  Bravo  yet?    Will  you 

give  me  a  call  when  you  want  it? 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We'll  give  you  a  call.    You  can  go 

on  to  Bravo  now,  Ron. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     Do  you  have  it?  Okeydoke. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  79A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIE-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ok  20  3lt  05    LMP-EVA    Okay;  I'm  working  on  the  LEAM  connection  now.  Bob. 

CO  Okay.     I  copy  that.  Jack.     Understand  you  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Say,  it's  hard  to  hit  that  garbage  pile. 

CC  Roger.    Understand  you  almost  have  the  heat  flow 

connector  connected  by  now? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  a  little  late.  Jack,  until  I  get  these  battery 
covers  opened, 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  got  the  heat  flow  for  you. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  the  old  LEAM  connector  doesn't  connect,  just 
like  usual,  or  lock. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I'm  not  going  to  touch  the  batteries.  The 
covers  are  clean,  and  the  batteries  themselves 
are  clean.     The  LR  -  LCRU  has  been  dusted  and  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    so  has  the  TV. 

LMP-EVA  It's  locked.   

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    LEAM's  locked  on. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'm  going  to  use  this. 

ok  20  35  kk    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.     The  battery  covers  are  in  the  shade. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that,  Geno. 

OU  20  36  02    CDR-EVA    Well,  well,  well,  well,  okay;  I  hope  that  helps. 

Whoo!    I'm  going  to  go  to  MAX  for  a  minute  here. 
Do  you  buy  that? 


Tape  T9A/2 


CC  Okay,  Geno.     We  copy. 

CDR-EVA    It  seems  hot  in  the  valley  of  Taurus . 

CC  Okay. 

Oi+  20  36  27    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Oh,  man,  -  Whoo!    Yes,  I'm  going  back  to 

INTERMEDIATE . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.     I'm  ready  to  go  to  work. 

CC  Good. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'm  going  to  push  the  gravimeter. 

CC  Roger  - 

Ol+  20  36  U2    CC  MARK. 

Oi*  20  36  51    CDR-EVA  Okay.    You  have  a  mark. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    It's  blinking,  and  remember  what  I  said,  it's 

a  piece  of  cake  to  take  on  and  off. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     This  is  north  over  here,  huh?     Okay.  Off- 
load old  heat  flow ,  10  ...  northwest .     You  got  the 
connector  connected.     Carry  heat  flow  30.  Place 
on  ground,  experiment  up;  okay.    Way  to  do  that. 
Jack.     Keep  your  eye  on  cables. 

mP-EVA  Oh,  man,  all  I  could  do  is  go  down  hill  over  here. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  do  you  read? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  just  trying  to  level   

CDR-EVA  Are  you  going  to  move  that  very  much? 


Tape  79 A/ 3 


LMP-EVA    No,  I'm  just  -  I'll  be  working  with  it  to  try  to 

level  it.     It's  -  that's  going  to  be  a  major  task. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  there's  30  feet,  I'll  just  -I'll  get  this 
thing  squared  away  when  I  -  Okay,  Boyd  "bolt  time. 

LMP-EVA  Ha,  wheel  That  really  went.  Man,  these  things  are 
just  like  they  are  at  the  Cape.  You  can  feel  every 
one  of  them. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  has  Ron  been  able  to  see  the  LM? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  find  out. 

MP-EVA    Oh  -  oh  - 

CC  Watch  it.  Jack. 

OU  20  39  06    CDR-EVA    First  cable  -  first  cable  hooked.     Jack,  you  all 

right? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    I'll  straighten  it  up  in  a  minute.  Okay. 
The  LSG  is  going  out. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I  hope  it  does  the  things  that  we  want  it  to  for 
us . 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I'm  not  doing  too  badly  on  keeping  things 

clean.     The  -  the  base  of  the  central  station  and  - 
got  some  stuff  on  it,  but  -  otherwise  it's  pretty 
good. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We  appreciate  your  efforts,  and  we 

understand  you  got  the  LEAM  connected  eventually. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  and  it  locked;  just  took  some  diddling. 

Okay.     Sun's  over  there.     Oops,  I  forgot  my  Boyd 
bolts.     Let's  see. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  never  drilled  a  hole  where  there's  not  a 
can. 

LMP-EVA    Boyd  bolts  are  OFF.     Bob,  does  it  bother  him  that 
the  base  of  the  LSG  is  touch  -  touching  soil? 
Because  this  is  pretty  soft. 


Tape  79A/U 


LMP-EVA    Bob,  did  you  give  me  an  answer? 

CC  Roger.     Ron  thints  he  has  seen  it.     We  haven't  had 

a  confirmation  on  the  last  orbit  when  you  were 
talking  to  him,  but  he  thinks  he  saw  it  the  previous 
orbit . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  hey.  Bob.     Hey,  Bob. 
CC  Go. 

LMP-EVA    Can  the  LSG  -  the  base  of  the  LSG,  be  touching 
the  soil? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that.     Roger,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  very  soft  and  it's  going  to  be  very 
hard  to  level  for  it. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     The  base  can  be  touching  the  ground. 

Oh  20  hi  37    LMP-EVA    Okay.     It's  level,  aligned,  the  sunshield  is 

shaded  inside.    The  level  bubble  is  Just  touching 
the  outer  circle;  a  one  circle.     And  I  improved 
that.     It's  perfectly  centered  now  and  I'm  going 
to  \jncage.    Whoops.     I  moved  -  the  experiment 
moved.     It's  still  pretty  good  level.     Okay,  it's 
uncaged;  the  gimbal  is  swinging. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

Oh  20  h2  26    LMP-EVA    The  gimbal  is  swinging. 

CC  Copy  that.    And  Jack,  you're  still  in  MAX   

LMP-EVA    The  bubble  is  back  just  touch  -Yes,  I  know   

CC  Okay. 

IJ4P-EVA    I've  been  working,  man. 
CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  went  to  "pseudo  intermediate,"  between 
minimum  and  intermediate.     The  bubble  is  just 
touching  the  -  its  circle,  and  the  alignment  -  Sun 
alignment  is  good. 


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CC  Roger.     Copy  that.     Thank  you. 

LMP-F/A    Okay,  Gene.    You've  got  some  good  slack  here,  if 

you  can  leave  it  that  way.     You  shouldn't  have  the 
cable  draped  across  anything,  that's  good. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  want  to  try  and  get  this  thing  in  there. 
It  won't  -  there  it  is. 

LMP-EVA    Can  I  help  you.  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    No.     I  got  a  little  dust  in  this  mirror,  though. 

I'm  not  sure  I  -  Bob,  I  got  a  little  dust  on  the 
white  surface,  not  on  the  mirror  -  of  the  heat 
flow.     You  got  any  recommendations? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that.  Jack  -  Gene.     Is  that  the  -  on 

the  heat  reflector? 

CDR-LMP    Yes.    Yes,  it's  on  the  north  side. 

CC  Okay.     As  long  as  it's  not  on  the  mirror,  it's 

okay ,  Gene . 

CDR-EVA  Well,  let  me  take  another  look.  I'll  double  check. 
LMP-EVA    Watch  it.    You're  pulling  pretty  hard. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  watching   

mP-EVA    You're  pulling  

CDR-EVA    I'm  watching;  I'm  not  pulling.     Okay.     The  mirror's 
clean. 

CC  Okay;  then,  it's  good  enough. 

LMP-EVA    Give  me  some  more  slack  up  here,  you're  draped. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Okay.    That's  where  it's  going.  Jack, 
right  there. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  -  okay. 

CDR-EVA    How's  that? 


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LMP-EVA    That's  good. 
CDR-EVA    Got  enough? 

mP-EVA    This  way  just  a  little,  Geno.     That's  good. 
Doesn't  take  much. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  we  sure  didn't  need  blocks  or  anything  out 
here.  There's  enough  soil  here  to  level  almost 
anything. 

LMP-EVA  But  that's  so  soft,  though,  it's  hard  to  get  a  - 
fast  level.  Whoops!  That's  strange.  I  think  I 
did  something  wrong. 

CDR-EVA    What's  that? 

LMP-EVA    Pulled  the  pin  at  the  wrong  time  . . . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     The  heat  flow  is  level;  the  gnomon  is 

good.    And,  Boh,  I  verified  that  that  dirt  is  not 
on  the  mirror.     It's  on  -  on  the  white  stuff  that  - 
that,  you  know,  is  horizontal  to  the  surface  of 
the  box. 

CC  Okay,     Copy  that.  Gene;  that's  okay. 

CDR-EVA    The  mirror  -  mirror's  -  the  mirror's  clean. 
CC  Roger.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  I'll  give  you  a  TGE  reading. 
CC  Roger.    We're  ready. 

Ok  20  U6  IT    CDR-EVA    Okay;  67O  002  6OI  -  67O  002  6OI. 
CC  Okay.     We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Boh,  was  that  with  the  camera  -  with  the  camera 
running? 

CC  Roger.     The  camera's  been  running  all  this  time. 

CDR-EVA    That's  beautiful.     Okay.     Your  temperatures  are 

down  to  a  hundred  -  and  maybe  a  sukosh  120  under, 
so  maybe  those  batteries  are  cooling  off. 


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CC  Okay;  good. 

CDR-E\^A    It's  sure  good.     I  don't  want  to  walk  on  that  third 
EVA. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  getting  to  like  driving  this  machine.  Okay, 

pull  pin  2.  Pin  2  always  comes  after  -  goes  before 
pin  1. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  that's  in  the  NASA  documents  now. 

CDR-EVA    What's  that? 

LMP-EVA    Pin  2  comes  before  pin  1. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Reel  3  comes  before  reel  1  and  2,  also.  I  think 
I  overdid  that  one. 

CC  Yes,  it  went  clean  out  of  sight;  but  by  all  means, 

watch  reel  2. 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter)  Oh,  you  think  you're  so  clever.  Be- 
lieve it  or  not.  Bob,  I'm  anchoring  the  geophone 
module . 

CC  Hey,  Jack,  it  looks  to  us  on  the  TV  as  though 

you're  m  -  anchoring  the  geophone  module  with  a 
flag. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  what  I'm  doing.     I'm  anchoring  the  geo- 
phone module  with  a  flag. 

OU  20  U8  ih    CDR-EVA    Okay;  one  leg,  two  legs,  three  legs.     And  none  of 

them  -  none  of  them  - 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  remind  me  to  police  the  garbage  pile. 
CC  All  right. 

LMP-EVA    The  garbage  pile  is  turning  out  to  be  -  just  like 
every  other  ALSEP  deployment.     It's  hard  to 
control . 


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CC  And  I  understand  all  your  legs  came  out  okay, 

Geno,  or  didn't  come  out, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Yes,  sir;  they  all  came  out  okay. 

01+  20  kQ  51    LMP-EVA    Okay.     LMS  ring  is  piilled. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Amazing.  Amazing. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I've  got  my  tools  of  the  trade  right 
here.     I'm  ready  to  go  to  work.     Now  I  put  a  mark 
in  the  deck  -  Here  it  is;  right  there. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  what  have  I  forgotten?    The  package  won't 
rotate. 

CC  Try  rotating  the  UHT. 

LMP-EVA    Ho,  I'm  serious.     Oh,  rotate  the  UHT,  hiih? 
CDR-EVA    Yes ,  remember  that  one? 

LMP-EVA    No  -  that's  right.     I'm  sorry.     I  knew  it,  I  knew 
it  would  happen. 

CDR-LMP    Where's  your  garbage  pile.  Jack?    Well,  I  -  I 
can't  find  yours. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  don't  worry  about  my  garbage  pile.     It  turns 
out  it  looks  very  much  like  the  ALSEP. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  made  a  mark  over  here  that  says  -  that  says 
that  should  be  about  cable  length. 

LMP-EVA    What  am  I  doing  over  here?    You're  awfully  - 
you're  awfully  close. 

CDR-EVA    No ,  my  -  iny  -  I 'm  going  right  in  here.  Jack. 
Right  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I  can  move  it  further  

LMP-EVA    No.     That's  all  right. 


Tape  79 A/9 


CDR-E7A    further  north. 

LMP-EVA    No,  this  will  be  all  right.     I  just  want  to  keep 
away  from  you  there. 

CDR-SVA    We  shall  soon  see  how  tuned  we  are.     I'm  anxious 
to  see  what's  under  this  mantle. 

CC  So  are  we. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  Bob,  I  hope  I  can  drill  you  a  couple  of  good 
holes . 

CC  How  about  three? 

CDR-EVA    And  I  know  you  do,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  arrow  is  east /west,  pointing  west. 

The  bubble  is  in  the  center.     If  I'm  lucky,  it'll 
stay  there.     I'm  not  -  I'm  more  like  east /northeast . 
I'm  trying  to  keep  a  little  further  away  from  Gene. 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Break  seal  is  OPEN. 

Ok  20  52  02    CDR-EVA    Okay,  that  was  my  MARK.     Let  me  see.     Double  check 

that  cable  length.     I'd  sure  hate  to  drill  a  hole 
that  was  outside  of  the  -  length  of  the  cable. 

Ok  20  52  22    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  LMS  is  deployed.     I'm  policing  the 

site.    The  screen  is  over  the  port. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  more  -  one  big  rock.     What  am  I  doing 
down  in  here? 

CDR-EVA    What  were  you  doing  down  in  there? 

LMP-EVA     (Latighter)     Okay.     And,  Bob  


CDR-EVA 


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LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

Ok  20  55  Ih  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 


  Bob,  there's  a  little  bit  of  dust  adhering 

to  the  -  sides  of  the  LMS.     And  a  few  particles 
less  than  -  half  a  percent  of  the  surface  on  the 
top.    But,  of  course,  you're  going  to  clean  that 
one  off;  so  that's  all  right. 

That's  affirm  on  the  top. 

The  -  the  north  side  has  about  a  -  10-  or 
15-percent  dust  cover. 

Copy  that. 


-  And,  Geno,  you're  leaning  pretty  heavy  forward 
on  that  drill. 

Ok£^ ,  Bob .    She  went  in  -  she ' s  going  in  like  she ' s 
in  some  pretty  dead  stuff,  and  then  I  hit  some 
rock  here.    I'll  watch  it  -  I  won't  lean  forward. 
I'm  not  putting  too  much  pressiire  on  it. 

Okay. 

It  sounds  to  me  like  she's  chippering  away  through 
rock.    May  be  just  a  little  longer  drilling  hole 
than  it  was  at  the  Cape. 

Bob,  she's  going  in  -  but  not  without  a  little  bit 
of  resistance. 

Roger.     We're  observing  that,  Geno. 

Every  once  in  a  while  -  every  once  in  a  while, 
she  breaks  through  a  soft  spot . 

Good. 

Bob,  I'll  tell  you,  this  central  station's  a 
bear  -  bear  to  get  level.    Well,  I  just  got  dust 
on  it  now. 


LMP-EVA    It's  just  too  soft. 


Tape  79 A/ 11 


CDR-EVA  Boy,  that  sure  was  drilling  in  hard  stuff  because 
it  took  a  lot  to  get  it  off. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     And  we  could  certainly  stand  a  little 

bit  of  dust,  at  least  on  top  of  that  central  station 
sunshield. 

IMP-EVA    Yes,  I  guess  the  level's  important, 
CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    I  can  just  see  what  John's  thinking  right  now. 

That's  what  makes  the  difference.     That's  where 
you  expend  your  energy. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  I  don't  know  that  I'm  going  to  be  able  to  do 
that  without  a  lot  of  time.  It's  hanging  against 
the  south  edge. 

CC  Say  again  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  whether  I'm  going  to  be  able  to  level 
it  -  the  central  station. 

CDR-EVA    Anything  I  can  do.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I  got  it  off  the  edge. 

CC  Okay;  maybe  we  better  just  leave  it  there. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I'm  making  it  worse  by  getting  dust  on  the 
top. 

CC  No,  the  dust  on  the  top  is  not  as  important  as 

getting  it  leveled.  Jack.     But  if  you  get  it 
broken  off  the  edge,  that  ought  to  be  good  enough. 

Oh  20  59  02    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  riding  at  about  382.     I've  got  -  oh ,  I 

guess,  about  80  -  Well,  no,  there's  half  -  I 
guess,  60  percent;  no  flags  and  no  tones. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that,  Geno. 

oh  20  59  2h    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     It's  touching  the  second  ring;  the 

gnomon  is  aligned,  and  I'm  going  to  leave  it  alone. 

CC  Roger  on  that . 


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LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  I  lost  all  the  time  I  might  have 
made  up. 

CDR-E7A    Hey,  Bob,  it's  obvious  that  I'm  going  through  some 
pretty  stuff  -  tough  stuff.     Consolidated  material, 
like  rock  fragments,  and  then  it  breaks  through; 
and  then  it  jumps  for  about  3  or  U  inches  and  then 
I  hit  some  more  fragments . 

CC  Roger.    We're  seeing  that  Geno.     Looks  interesting. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  me.     I  got  too  low  on  that  one.     I  thought  I 
had  that  gaged. 

CDR-EVA    If  you  deploy  that  geophone,  you'll  go  out  of 
sight. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  there  would  be  absolutely  no  way  of  breaking 
this  drill  from  that  -  those  bores  without  that 
tool,  I  guarantee  you  that. 


CC 


Okay.    We  copy  that,  Geno, 


CDR-EVA    I  think  I  found  a  way  to  get  this  off,  thougti ,  with 
a  little  help.     Okay,  number  3  coming  up. 

CC  Roger.    The  third  and  last  one  on  this  hole. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     Oh,  boy.     Time  out. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Don't  work  too  hard. 
CC  Roger . 

CDR-EVA    My  fender's  still  on,  which  makes  me  happy.  I'll 
tell  you,  if  you  could  come  and  sprinkle  the  whole 
area  with  water  and  get  rid  of  some  of  this  dust  - 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     And  can  you  remember  if  those  heat 

flow  cables  are  not  crossed  as  they  come  out  of  that 
box? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     I  very  definitely  made  a  point  of  them  - 
not  crossing  them. 


CC 


Okay;  very  good. 


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Ok  21  02  U5    CDR-EVA    They  are  not  -  they  are  not  crossed. 
CC  Good. 

LMP-EVA    (Lauighter)    Where  do  we  find  such  men? 
CDR-EVA    How's  it  coming.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  slow.    This  leveling  is  really  throwing  me 

behind  the  power  curve;  but  I  know  they  -  they're 
serious  about  it,  so  -  If  I  can  keep  it  where  it 
is  now,  I'm  in  like  Flynn.     It's  perfectly  cen- 
tered.    Even  the  gnomon  is  aligned  within  a  shadow 
width. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  is  that  thing  biting. 

I,MP-EVA    Really  working  down  there,  are  you? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  you  betcha,  man.     I'm  in  something  tough  down 
there  now.  Whew. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  what  -  what  bore  are  you  in? 

CDR-EVA    Number  3.    If  I  let  go  of  that  drill  and  it  kept 
runni ng  -  If  that  drill  kept  rimning  and  I  wasn't 
anchored  to  the  ground  -  - 

LMP-EVA    ( Laughter ) 

CDR-EVA    -  It  would  throw  me  over  a  massif  -  in  tangential 
turns . 

CC  Okay,  Geno  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I'm  in  the  mother  lode  down  there. 

CC  Gene,  if  its  getting  really  tough  and  you're  not 

making  much  progress,  we'll  be  happy  with  it 
where  it  is . 

CC  Well,  looks  like  you  really  -  - 

CDR-EVA    No,  sir,  you're  going  to  be  happy  with  it  where 
it's  supposed  to  be;  and  that's  where  it's  -  - 


Tape  ISk/lh 


CC  You  were  hiding  it  from  \is  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  We  couldn't  tell  how  deep  in  you  were. 

CDR-EVA    I  wanted  to  surprise  you.     They're  going  in  all 
the  way,  and  they're  both  going  to  work.  It's 
a  little  tough  looking  into  the  Sun. 

LMP-E\'A    Yes . 

Oh  21  05  10    CDR-EVA    Oh,  Manischewitz !     I  don't  know  where  I  picked 

that  work  up,  but  (chuckle)  it's  better  than  some, 
I  guess.  Now  if  I  can  use  my  little  lean-to  here. 
Oh,  man,  that  works  great.  That  works  great.  Put 
this  out  of  the  way.  Bob,  I'm  into  the  white 
mark;  it  depends  on  what  you  want  to  call  the  sur- 
face. You  know,  it's  -  I  can  -  I  can  give  you  6  - 
or  give  or  take  6  or  8  inches. 

CC  Yes,  something  like  that  will  do.  Gene,  I  guess. 

You  can  measure  it  ... 

IMP-mk    Gene,  is  the  dust  coming  up  changing  color  on 
you  at  all? 

CDR-EVA    No,  Jack.     It  isn't  changing  color.     I  can't  even 
tell  -  I  can't  even  tell  where  it's  coming  up. 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  think  it  is  coming  up,     I  think  I'm  Just 
pushing  it  aside. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  I'll  tell  you  -  - 

CC  I  saw  something  come  up  then  just  then.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  -  -  the  old  ALSEP  central  station  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  it  deploys  itself;  it  turns  out. 

CC  Roger  on  that.     That  was   

LMP-EVA  Bob   


Tape  T9A/15 


CC    pretty  amazing. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    When  I  -  I  finally  leveled  it  in  a  bull's 
eye.     I  don't  know  whether  you  hesird  me  or  not, 
hut  it  was  -  it  was  perfect.    So  it's  okay.  It's 
just  got  a  fair  -  it's  got  about  20-percent  dust 
cover  on  the  top. 

Okay. 

...  Glad  you've  got  that  probe  covered. 

And,  Jack,  ALSEP  says  that  that's  okay  ...  but 
that's  no  problem. 

Okay.    1  put  a  rock  under  the  northwest  comer. 
Oops  -  guess  what  happened?     (Laughter)    Just  like 
in  training,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    What  happened? 

LMP-EVA    The  old  geophone  cable  caught  on  the  corner. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Oops,  I'm  not  ready.    That  says  fUB  on 
that;  that's  an  airplane. 

Ok  21  08  2Y    CDR-EVA    Houston,  there's  no  dust  on  the  probe  except  that 

which  was  on  my  hands. 


CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    That  must  be  solar  wind. 

LMP-EVA    -  Sorry  not  to  be  more  talkative,  but  -  this  is 

taking  all  the  concentration  I  got.     I'll  have  to 
push  this  down,  I  can  see  that.     Yes,  this  ... 
doesn't  hold  any  better  here  than  it  -  did  in 
training. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  don't  -  don't  lose  that  -  Geno,  don't  lose 
that  -  don't  lose  that.     Notice  how  you  talk  to 
yourself  out  here? 

LMP-EVA    Who,  me?  (Laughter) 


CDR-EVA    Help . 


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LMP-EVA  I  says  -  you  is  getting  farther  and  farther  behind. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I've  had  my  one  for  today. 

LMP-EVA  Yoxxr  one  what? 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I  just  did  my  "whifferdill. " 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  did  you  fall? 

CDR-E\''A  No.     It's  funny  how  for  every  action  there's  an 
equal  and  opposite  reaction,  isn't  it? 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  I've  heard  that  before.     Okay,     Secure  thermal 
curtains  • 

Ok  21  10  05    LMP-EVA    Thermal  curtains  are  secured. 
CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    How  far  behind  am  I,  Bob? 

CC  Stand  by.    Roger.    We're  showing  -  Gene,  just 

about  20  minutes;  and  Jack,  J  list  about  25  - 
between  20  and  25  minutes  for  both  of  you. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    -  How  are  our  consumables? 
CC  Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  if  this  thing  isn't  going  to  work  better  than 
that  - 

OU  21  11  52    CDR-EVA    Bob,  just  like  the  book  says,  it's  down  to  Papa  1; 

and  it  hooked. 

CC  How  about  that. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy,  the  old  fingers  really  suffer  on  these. 
LMP-EVA    Take  it  easy. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Now  this  one  down  to  Fl.     Would  you  believe 
Fl? 


Tape  T9A/17 


CC  Yes  ,  I  believe  you ,  Gene . 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  in  this  soil,  best  number  I  can  give  you  is 
about  an  inch  below  the  white  spots  -  or  Bravo  i. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  Bravo  1. 

CDR-EYA    I  got  a  -  I  got  a  better  way  of  putting  that  last 
thermal  shield  on  now. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  you're  looking  at  it  -  coming  out  to 

the  south,  but  I  don't  expect  it'll  stay  that  way 
unless  I  put  some  dirt  over  the  cable.     How  does 
that  grab  you? 

CC  Stand  by.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    You  like  that  thermal  shield  the  way  it  is?  Okay. 
That's  coming  out  south.    That's  in  good  shape. 
I'm  pleased  with  that. 

CC  Dirts  okay,  if  you  want  to  put  it  on  there.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    ...  happy  with  it.    I'm  moving  on. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Now  the  thermal  shield  is  on  there.  Bob.     I  got 
them  all  on  there. 

CC  I  was  talking  about  -  If  you  want  to  put  some 

dirt  on  there  to  hold  it  down,  that's  okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  okay.     Well,  I  got  it  down  without  the  dirt. 

CC  Okay.     Good  enough. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  just  finding  all  sorts  of  good  ways  to  make 
life  easier  out  here. 

LMP-EVA    Stay  away  from  the  cable. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  and  I  didn't  forget  the  last  measurement 
either . 


CC  Roger  that. 


Tape  79A/18 


CDR-EVA    Hey,  can  you  see  this  big  mound  that  I  Just 

walked  -  it's  just  to  the  north  -  not  the  mound  - 
the  depression  that's  just  to  the  north  of  me? 

CC  Roger,  l?.  ... 

CDR-EVA    It's  probably  behind  the  Rover,     Okay.  Well, 
how's  -  how's  that  look  for  the  core? 

CC  Stand  by. 

Ok  21  15  26    CC  Geno,  can  you  give  us  a  distance  estimate  to  that? 

Does  it  look  like  it's  80  feet  or  so? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Okay.     Then  that  sounds  good. 

mP~EVA    Oh,  shucks.     Hey,  Bob,  is  there  any  way  a  level 
bubble  can  fail  (laoighter)? 

CC  Hey,  Jack,  remember  that's  on  top  of  those  wobbly 

legs  and  -  or  wobbly  springs  there.    And  with  the 
thing  not  being  straight,  you  shouldn't  really 
expect  the  level  bubble  to  be  level  after  the 
thing's  been  deployed.    That  happened  at  the  Cape 
a  couple  of  times,  remember? 

UiP-EVA    Yes,  but  Bob,  I've  -  I've  moved  this  practically 
all  the  way  down  the  full  throw  and  it  -  That 
bubble  won't  move,  and  I  can't  get  it  to  move  by 
tilting  it;  and  I  was  level.     And  the  bubble  on 
the  top  of  the  central  station  is  still  level. 

CC  Okay.    You're  talking  about  the  level  on  your 

other  one,  huh?    Stand  by  on  that. 

LMP-EVA    The  gnomon,  yes  -  Both  of  them?    I  can't  get  it 
to  move  to  the  other  side  of  the  -  fluid. 

CDR-EVA    Keep  working.     That  -  that  thing  shouldn't  fail. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I've  gone  full  throw  -  - 


CDR-EVA    That's  not  level. 


Tape  T9A/19 


LMP-EVA    That  bubble's  stuck  in  there,  somehow.     In  both 
of  them.    That's  not  even  pointing  close  to  the 
Earth.    Okay,  I'm  going  to  have  to  tweak  it  up 
and  let  them  see  the  signal  strength  -  and  tweak 
it. 

CC  Okay.     Why  don't  you  try  and  manually  point  it  - 

try  and  level  it  and  see  if  we  -  see  what  you  can 
do  toward  getting  it  towards  the  Earth. 

LMP-EVA    I  will.  Bob.    That  bubble's  just  not  working.     I  - 
I  can't  figure  that  one  out. 

CC  Okay.     Just  go  ahead  and  use  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Maybe  I  jarred  it  loose  here. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,     I  think  I  jarred  it  loose. 
CC  That ' s  another  first  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Don't  ask  me  how. 
CC  -  -  Okay ,  we  won ' t . 

LI^-EVA    Okay.     I  got  the  other  one  loose.     That's  very 
strange.     A  sticky  level  bubble.  (Laughter) 
Never  heard  of  it. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack  -  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    If  you're  looking  at  me,  what  I'm  talking  about 
is  this  depression  -  is  this  depression  in  here 
for  the  core  -  oh,  maybe  15,  20  meters  out  in 
here.     Jack,  what  did  you  have  in  mind  for  the 
neutron  flux? 

LMP-EVA    Either  the  one  you're  in  -  you're  down  in  there, 
or  next  one  over  behind  that  rock  in  front  of  you 
over  there. 


CDR-EVA    Hey,  I  can  go  way  over  there.     That's  not  too  far 
probably  for  -  - 


Tape  79A/20 


LMP-EVA    Well,  either  way  I  think  is  fine.  Gene.     But  I 
woTild  suggest  behind  the  rock. 

CDR-EVA  For  a  neutron  flxix,  huh? 

LMP-EYA    Yes,  sir;  and  the  core. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  wanted  -  I  thought  they  wanted  a  core  in 
that  depression. 


LMP-EVA  Well,  that  -  there's  al.so  one  over  there. 

CC  Okay,  and  -  17   

LMP-EVA  ...  a  choice. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  go  behind  that  rock;  that  looks  good  from  here. 

CC  And,  17,  we  think  you  guys  are  in  far  -  by  far  the 

best  position  to  Judge  that  -  far  better  than  we 
are.     You  know  what  the  requirements  are  on 
shielding  and  -  - 


CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  -  -  greater  than  50  meters  -  25  meters. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    Okay.    The  long  -  long  bores  in. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Gene.    Looked  like  that  one  went 

in  fairly  well. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  probably  about  like  the  other  one  did.     Not  - 
not  too  bad. 


CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  must  be  getting  old. 

CDR-EVA    I  expect  the  next  two  are  going  to  be  a  little 
harder. 


LMP-EVA    Bob,  I'm  not  very  happy  with  this  level.     But  I'll 
turn  it  on  and  -  Have  me  come  back  a  little  bit 
later,  when  they've  warmed  up  some  more,  and  let's 
see  what  it  looks  like. 


Tape  79A/21 


CC  Okay.    We'll  do  that.     Give  me  a  mark  when  you 

turn  it  on,  and  we'll  see  what  kind  of  signals 
we  get. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     The  shadow  gnomon  is  -  aligned;  I'm  going 
to  turn  the  shorting  plug  on. 

CC  Copy  that. 

Ok  21  20  05    IMP -EVA    It's  on. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP-EVA    And  -  the  needle  is  fullscale  left. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  believe  that. 

LMP-EVA    What's  your  problem? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that  whole  bore  turns  in  the  -  in  the 

ground,  it's  so  loose.     I  got  -  and  I  got  that  - 
You  know  how  those  threads  sometimes  stick  on  you 
a  little  bit.     I  got  one  stuck  halfway  down  and 
the  whole  bore  is  turning,  so  now  I've  got  to  use 
a  wrench  on  it. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     And  we  have   

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I've  got  a  -  I've  got  a  -  rock  about  10  feet 
southeast  of  my  LEAM  location.     I  can  move  -  I 
can  move  a  little  more  north  and  get,  oh  -  get 
15  feet  from  that.     That  okay? 

CC  How  big  is  the  rock  there.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  it  stands  -  it's  a  meter  wide  and  stands  about 
a  third  of  a  meter  high. 

CC  About  a  third,  and  about  a  foot  high? 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  how's  that  for  

LMP-EVA  A  third  of  a  meter. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  79 A/22 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  how's  that  for  soil  mechanics?    I  pulled  the 
first  bore  right  on  out  trying  to  get  this  thing 
on  right. 

CC  Well,  put  it  in  -  put  it  in  before  your  hole  fills 

up  there,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Right  now  I'm  interested  in  getting  this 
second  bore  on.    Now,  let's  see  if  I  can  get  it 
back  in.     Well,  not  q.uite  as  far,  but  high  enough 
for  me  to  reach  the  -  It  still  feels ,  Bob ,  like 
there's  a  lot  of  fragmental  material  down  there. 

CC  I  copy  that,  Geno.    Good  luck. 

CDR-EVA    That  was  an  interesting  little  -  exercise.  Well, 
I  got  the  bore  on  right ,  ajiyway . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  shoot. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     As  long  as  it's  only  1  foot  high  and 

10  feet  away,  that's  satisfactory. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

Ok  21  2k  5k    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  LEAM's  deployed,  aligned;  and  the 

level  bubble  is  -  just  touching  the  inner  ring. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob.     Did  you  get  anything  from  the  ALSEP  yet? 

CC  Watch  that  cable.  Jack.    Roger.    We  started  to 

tell  you  that  when  you  had  the  question  there,  and 
we're  getting  a  good  lockup  on  the  data. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  keep  an  eye  on  it,  because  I'm  not  happy 
with  the  level, 

CC  Okay.    We'll  get  back  with  you  on  that. 

LMP-EVA  I'll  check.     ...  checking. 

LMP-EVA  I  found  a  way  to  get  over  cables. 

CDR-EVA  Shoot . 


Tape  T9A/23 


LMP-EVA     ( Laughter ) 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  Maniscliewitz.  Whew. 

LMP-ET/A    There  you  go  again. 

CDR-EVA    I  know.     Let  me  get  this  one  off  and  take  a  ... 
here. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  kind  of  having  trouble  with  UHTs  today.  They 
just  don't  want  to  lock  in  when  you  get  dust  in 
there . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack.    Be  careful  with  that  UHT  on  the  heat 
flow  because  it  was  aligned  -  real  good. 

LMP-E\^A    It  was  what? 

CDR-EVA    The  heat  flow  experiment  electronics,  when  you 
go  over  there  for  that  UHT,  was  aligned. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  going  to  take  a  zap  of  cold  water. 
CC  Okay.    Soiands  good  to  me. 

CDR-EVA    Whee.    Almost  looks  like  it's  getting  dark  out. 
Is  it?    Guess  not. 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    Hope  not,  or  we  is  in  trouble. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I  may  have  gone  the  wrong  way.     I  did. 

I  went  to  MIN  instead  of  MAX.     Here  it  comes. 
Oh,  boy.     Oh,  boy.    Man.    Watch  it.     Okay,  Jack. 
You're  all  right.     Still  deploying. 

LMP-EVA  Huh? 

CDR-EVA    Still  deploying.    Nothing;  you're  all  right.  It' 
coming  out  a  little  -  hard. 

LMP-EVA    Wouldn't  you  know  it? 

CDR-13VA    Okay.     I'm  back  in  MIH ,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 


Tape  T9A/2U 


CDR-EVA    By  any  chance  have  any  heat  flow  data  yet? 

CC  No,  Geno.     We  don't  have  the  heat  flow  tiirned 

on  yet . 

CDR-EVA    All  right.    Oh,  that's  right.     Okay.     I  think 

that's  right.     Okay.     I'm  about  to  give  you  your 
number.     Oh,  dam  it.     (Laughter)    Crank  it  a 
couple  of  times.    Clean  as  a  whistle.     Clean  as 
a  whistle. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  Just  like  I  thought;  antenna  doesn't  want 
to  go  in. 

OU  21  28  57    CC  Is  that  the  number  3  section  there,  Geno? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it's  in. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.  Bob. 
CC  Roger.  Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  the  last  one  I  got.     I  guess  we'll 

find  out  when  I  put  the  probe  in.     I  think  they're 
all  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  about  ready  to  deploy  some  geophones. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     Did  you  get  the  antenna  into  that 

pallet  okay,  eventually? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Good  enough. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  occasionally  hit  stuff  and  it  -  it  spits 
this  whole  drill  back  at  me.     Knocks  it  back 
about  a  half  an  inch  or  so,  and  then  it  will  bite  - 
bite  through  it . 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    My  general  impression  is  that  there  is  an  awful 
lot  of  fra^ents  I'm  busting  up  down  there. 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  T9A/25 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     That  last  6  inches,  I  really  came 

into  something  hard;  but  it's  down  all  the  way. 

CC  Beautiful,  Geno. 

LMP-EVA    Oops,  there's  a  heat  flow  probe. 

CDR-EVA    What  happened? 

IMP-EVA    (Laughter)     I  -  I  messed  up  - 

CDR-EVA    Man,  don't  hit  that.     Give  me  heart  failure  after 
all  that  drilling. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  jiist  walked  too  close  to  it.     I  apologize 
for  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  care  how  close  you  walk  to  it  - 
LMP-EVA    Well,  ...  does  ...  does. 
CDR-EVA    Just  don't  step  on  it. 
LMP-EVA    I  do  that  . . . 

CDR-EVA    Ooh.     Hey,  Bob,  just  out  of  curiosity,  what  kind 

of  heart  rates  has  this  drill  been  producing  on  me 

CC  Stand  by.    Okay,  you've  been  running  at  120  flush. 

Gene,  with  peaks  of  1^+0  to  150  from  time  to  time. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

OU  21  32  02    CC  And  there  goes  the  last  heat  flow  hole  on  the 

Moon. 

CDR-EVA    Oh.     Yes,  sir.     I  tell  you,  if  you  learn  how  to 
use  your  instruments  in  this  l/6g,  you  take  your 
time  and  you  get  around;  it's  frank  phenomenal. 
But  if  you  try  and  bend  over  without  some  help; 
not  so  phenomenal. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  what  a  ride  that  Challenger  gave  us  coming 
down.    What  a  ride. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  you  dummy  -  you  dummy.     Jack  you  still  with 
me. 


Tape  79A/26 


LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
IMP-E^/A 
CDR-F7A 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

Ok  21  36  29  CDF-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 


Oh  21  35  11 


Yes, 

Okay.     Boy,  I'm  getting  dropsies  now.  Getting 
dropsies . 

Don't  push  it. 

Getting  dropsies. 

Take  a  rest. 

Unbelievable  -  ixnbelievable. 

Okay,  Geno.  And  the  heat  flov  is  on  and  looking 
good. 

That ' s  good  news ,  Bob .     Let  me  give  you  another 
one  here.    While  it's  ...  I'll  tell  you  I'm  in 
to  the  bottom  of  the  white  marks,  and  that's  - 
oh,  about  Bravo  1  again. 

Okay,  I  copy.    Papa  1,  Foxtrot  1,  and  Bravo  1? 

No,  sir.  Bob.     Now  the  —  the  bore  stem  is  in  to 
the  top  of  the  white  marks;  I'm  still  putting  the 
probe  down. 

Okay,  copy  that.     -  - 

And  the  top  of  the  white  marks  is  about  bravo  1. 
Copy  that. 

About  bravo  1.  Okay.  Here  go  -  here  goes  the 
probe.  Pick  a  number  you'd  like  to  hear.  How 
about  Papa  1? 

How  about  Papa  1  there,  Geno. 
Bingo,  babe,  you  win;  and  it  locked  in. 
Roger.     I  think  Mark  won  on  that  one,  too. 
Papa  1. 

Roger.     And,  Jack,  I  gather  you  are  probably 
traipsing  across  the  landscape  with  a  geophone 
about  now,  right? 


Tape  T9A/27 


LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

Oh  21  38  07  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


That's  firm. 

Okay.     And  let  me  ask  you  -  - 

Good  gravy!    You  know  how  big  that  rock  - 

Stand  by.     Go  ahead. 

Go  ahead.  Bob. 

Okay.    I  gather  -  you  said  that  the  heat  -  the 
LEAM  was  leveled  and  aligned,  and  I  gather  that 
meant  it  was  on  the  black  decal  on  top.     Do  you 
happen  to  remember  what  number  was  on  that? 

Well,  I'll  check  it.     But  I  think  you  know  where 
that  decal  is. 

Well,  okay.    Good  enough. 

Okay,  Bob.  The  little  thermal  shield  went  to  Fl. 
Hey,  that's  another  bingo. 

And  it's  coming  out  to  the  south.  I'm  coming  out 
to  the  south. 

Roger . 

And  the  thermal  shield  is  in  place. 
Roger .     Copy  that . 

Well,  it  was  until  I  moved  it.    Do  I  need  my 
javelin  anymore? 

You  might. 

Yes ,  I  might . 

One  never  -  one  never  knows ,  Geno . 

I  think  I'll  save  it  until  after  -  I  think  I'll 

save  it  until  after  I  drill  the  core.  Oh,  rae  oh 
my. 

Take  it  easy,  Geno.    You  sound  like  you're  - 


Tape  79A/28 


CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  doing  fine. 
I21P-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    That  Sun  is  just  bright.    I  ought  to  put  those 
visors  down,  I  suppose  -  those  other  visors. 
Okay.     Let  me  take  a  look  at  my  list  and  see  whether 
I've  got  everything.    Measured,  measured;  height, 
height;  you've  got  all  the  shields;  you're  coming 
out  south;  verify  heat  flow  is  level  and  aligned  - 
It  is  aligned  and  gnomon  was  good;  UHT  to  the 
LRV  IMP  seat;  and  then  what  do  I  do?    Let  me  see. 
Deep  core  prep.     Jack,  I'm  going  to  leave  the  UHT 
in  the  heat  flow  in  case  you  need  it. 

IMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  go  behind  a  rock  over  there  - 
LMP-EVA    Now,  now. 

CDR-EVA    In  that  depression.    Boh,  you  do  want  the  core  in 
a  depression,  right? 

CC  Roger.    That's  affirmative,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  nobody  touch  my  heat  flow.    That's  the 

prettiest  Job  I've  ever  done.     Okay,  I'm  going 
behind  a  boulder  over  here .    Bob ,  I ' ve  got  about 
385;  and,  I  guess,  about  50  percent.     I  can't  see 
it  too  well. 

CC  I  copy  that ,  Geno . 

CDR-EVA    And  no  flags  and  no  tone;  and'  I'm  on  -  I'm  on 
intermediate  coolant  and  I  feel  great. 

LMP-EVA  Likewise;  and  I'm   

CC  Roger . 

MP-EVA  and  IMP  is  -  LMP  is  56  percent. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  What  are  you,  Geno? 


Tape  79 A/ 29 


CDR-EVA    Well,  I  can't  see  it.    The  Sian  vas  -  I  don't  know. 
Jack.     I  can't  -  It  was  about  5  -  yes,  about 
55  or  5^. 

IMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Now,  this  ought  to  shield  that  thing  from  the 
doggone  - 

LMP-EVA    Pressure's  385  on  the  LMP. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  one  comment  on  -  getting  the  geophones  within 
a  few  degrees  of  vertical  -  In  this  undiilating 
terrain  (chuckle),  I  think  they're  pretty  good; 
but  it's  not  real  easy  to  tell  what  vertical  is. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  this  is  right  in  line  with  the  shallow 
depression;  and  it's  right  in  line  with  the  - 
RTG,  with  a  rock  in  the  middle. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     As  long  as  you're  drilling  behind  the 

rocks  from  the  RTG,  that's  great. 

CDR-EVA    That's  where  you're  going  to  get  it.     Let  me  see 
what  I  need.    Drill,  rack,  core  bag  -  drill  at 
1  IPS.     Okay.     Let's  go  do  it  right. 

OU  21  k2  29    CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  see,  I'm  going  to  put  it  right  in 

this  depression.    Right  in  it. 

LMP-EVA    There,  get  the  middle  of  that. 

CDR-EVA    It's  a  shallow  one.     If  I  go  over  there,  I'm  not 
shielded.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    No,  that's  good.     Get  in  the  middle.     Get  it  in 
that  place . 

CDR-EVA    Right  in  this  little  -  It's  only  about  a  U-meter 
depression. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  wait  a  minute  -  oh,  you're  on  the  other  side 
of  the  rock.  Okay. 


Tape  79A/30 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes.     Yes,  I  want  to  get  back  here. 
LMP-EVA    That's  good.     Oh,  man,  go  slow. 

LMP-EVA    Bob ,  the  -  all  of  these  big  boulders  aroimd  here 
that  I've  looked  at,  are  the  same  -  same  rock 
type. 

LMP-EIVA    Oh  -  who  pulled  over  the  geophone  module? 
CDR-EVA    Can't  imagine. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     That  sounds  like  the  title  of  a  book. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  oh.     There  it  went. 
LMP-EVA    What  happened? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  lost  my  vise.     I  see  it.     I  see  it. 

LMP-EVA    Hope  I  took  number  1  in  the  right  direction. 

Yes.     Okay,  n-umber  ^4-  will  be  a  little  hard  to 
pick  up. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  all  these  little  craters  are  filled  with  glass. 
Come  on  back  here.     I've  got  to  chase  this  thing 
over  the  lunar  surface. 

LMP-EVA    I've  seen  glass  covers.     Oh,  about  out  towards 
there,  I  guess. 

LMP-EVA    As  I  was  saying.  Bob,  all  these  big  blocks  that 
I've  looked  at  look  like  the  gabbroic  rock  that 
I  was  talking  about  -  possibly  upwards  of 
50-percent  plagioclase  rather  than  30  like  the 
mare  -  but  an  intermediate  gabbro  of  some  kind. 
And  one  big  block  there  had  very  sharply  defined  - 
parallel  parting  planes.     I  think  there  is  a 
foliation  of  minerals  that  parallel  that  parting, 
but  I'll  have  to  check  it  out. 

Ok  21  h6  08    CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Those  parting  planes  go  over  the  -  go  through 
the  whole  boulder  on  the  order  of  at  least 
3  meters  long  and  outcrop. 


Tape  T9A/31 


LMF-EVA    How  is  it  going.  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Fine.     I'm  on  ray  second  stem,  here  -  or  I'm 
starting  on  it.     How  are  you  coming? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  just  about  ready  to  -  pick  up  -  old  the 
Islggys  geophone  h. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)    Have  a  good  time. 

CC  Okay.     And  Geno,  how  are  you  doing?    We've  been 

watching  Jack  traipse  back  and  forth  across  the  . . 

LMP-EVA    I'm  getting  there.  Bob.    I'm  trying  to  pit  - 

CDR-EVA    Talk  about  seven  league  boots. 

LMP-EVA    Put  stem  number  2  on. 

CC  And,  Jack,  how's  the  visibility  back  at  the  center 

geophone  . . . 

LMP-EVA    How's  the  vis? 

CC  Yes.    Are  you  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Not  bad. 

CC  Okay.    You're  not  having  to  worry  about  the  photos 

yet? 

LMP-EVA    No,  I've  been  checking  it.     Bob,  my  biggest  prob- 
lem is  that  the  flags  don't  anchor, 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    In  general,  the  lines  are  following  the  contours. 
Whoops  -  whoops  -  whoops . 

CDR-EVA    Well,  try  another  one.    Doggonit . 

CC  What's  the  problem,  Geno?     It  won't  screw  on? 


Tape  79A/32 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  yes.     It's  no  problem.     You  know,  it's  the 
same  problem  you  always  have.    You  get  these 
threads  -  get  a  little  side  force  on  them  and  - 
you  know,  with  the  helmet  and  gloves  and  what 
have  you  -  It's  just  -  you  can't  -  Sometimes  they 
go  on  easy;  sometimes  they  don't. 

CC  Copy  that. 

Oh  21  50  Ok    CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  got  this  one  on  now. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  do  I  have  a  ball  of  spaghetti  here.  But 

the  geophones  are  going  in  the  right  direction. 
I  hope  you  don't  have  an  EMI  problem.    Can  the 
geophone  lines  cross.  Bob? 


CC 


Stand  by  on  that.    Okay;  no  problem.  Jack. 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    Hey,  if  you  see  me  start  to  pull  over  that  - 
module  there 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  don't  do  that. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  mean  -  oh,  I  won't  hurt  it.     It's  Just  that 
it  -  it  stretches  the  other  geophones  tight . 


CC 


Okay.     Well,  right  now  we're  watching  Gene, 


LMP-EVA    Okay.     Don't  worry  about  it.     I'll  watch  it. 

The  anchors  are  completely  unsuccessful  -  on  the 
module ,  anyway . 

CC  That  looks  pretty  good,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Not  too  bad.  Bob.     The  first  core  was  awful  loose. 
I  think  I  could  have  pulled  it  back  out  with  my 
hajids . 

CC  That's  not  the  idea. 

Ok  21  53  02    CDR-EVA    Oh  boy,  oh  boy.     Speaking  of  boy,  oh  boy  -  are  you 

a  long  way  off. 


Tape  T9A/33 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  going  to  stop  for  a  second.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.    We've  observed  your  problem  there  getting 

the  wrench  off,  Geneo. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  had  to  get  down  to  get  that  -  to  get  that 
third  -  third  stem  aligned  and  get  it  on  there. 
This  is  the  easy  part,  but  I  just  got  myself  be- 
hind the  power  curve  for  a  second. 


CC  All  right, 

LMP-EVA    How's  the  time.  Bob? 

CC  Stand  by.    Okay.    Presuming  you're  taking  photos 

now  on  geophone  k.  Having  to  finish  geophone  h. 
Jack,  you're  about  -  right  now,  looks  like  about 
15  minutes  behind. 


LMP-EVA    Okay . 

ok  21  56  09    CC  And  no  problem  on  the  time  line  so  far. 

CDR-EVA    Darn  it.     You  know.  Bob,  one  of  the  problems  is 
I'm  working  in  a  small  crater;  and  it's  just  a 
little  difficult  to  work  on  these  slopes.  Okay. 
It's  on.    I'm  ready  to  put  the  drill  in. 

CC  Okay,  Geneo. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  get  the  dust  out  of  the  bit  by 

blurping  it.  Oh,  man;  okay.  How  am  I  doing.  Bob 
on  the  time? 

Oh  21  58  oh    CDR-EVA  Jack,  do  you  read  me? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  because  I  don't  see  you. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  out  by  the  big  rock. 


Tape  19k/ 3h 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  okay;  I  got  you.    Man,  I  hope  that  hole  doesn't 
collapse.     I'm  going  to  be  awful  disappointed.  I 
think  I  could  drive  that  heat  flow  flux  -  or  heat 
flow  -  or  neutron  flux  in,  at  least  for  one  probe, 
without  any  problem.    Okay,  Bob,  if  all  goes  well 
in  the  next  few  short  moments,  you'll  have  the 
final  -  unleaded(?)  -  cores  stem  -  automatic  -  in 
this  area  -  on  Apollo  IT. 

CC  On  a  Monday  evening,  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  on  Monday  evening.     That  is  what  it  is,  isn't 
it?    Hey,  who's  winning  the  football  game? 

CC  Stand  by;  we'll  find  out. 

CC  Okay;  and,  Jack  and  Gene,  the  score  is  10  to  10  at 

the  half. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  Oakland  and  -  and  who? 
CC  Jets . 

CDR-EVA     ...  Kansas  City.     What  am  I  thinking  of? 

Oh  22  03  lit    CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  would  you  settle  for  about  8  inches  out 

of  the  groiand?    It's  about  as  low  as  I  can  get. 

CC  Okay  

UyiP-EVA    I  haven't  heard  from  them  recently, 

CC  Okay,  Geno.    We'll  give  you  A  minus  for  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  know, 

LMP-EVA    There  he  is. 

CC  But  it's  still  an  A. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  go  lower  if  I  could  get  an  A  plus.  But 
I  am  going  to  accept  an  A  minus,  because  I'll  never 
get  the  wrench  on  it  if  I  go  any  lower. 


CC 


Roger  there.  Gene 


Tape  79 A/ 35 


CDR-EVA    I'm  -  I'm  within  an  inch  of  the  white  stripes. 
How's  that? 

CC  That  sounds  great  to  me  -  - 

CDR-EVA    An  inch  of  the  white  stripes.  Boh. 

CC  Roger.     And  they're  worried  up  here  that  you  didn't 

clear  the  flutes,  Geno.  You  want  to  tell  them  that 
so  they'll  be  happy? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     I'll  tell  them  I  did  clear  the  flutes. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  where  are  you  lost  on  the  plains  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  did.     But  if  you  want  me  to  do  it  some  more, 
I  will. 

CC  No,  if  you  cleared,  that's  sufficient.     And,  Jack, 

where  are  you  lost  on  the  plains  of  Taurus -Litt row, 
there? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    He's  l80  from  where  your  camera  -  from  where  I  am. 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Right  across  the  Rover. 

CC  Okay.    Are  you  getting  ready  to  take  geophone 

photos  or  ALSEP  photos? 

LKP-EVA    I'm  getting  ready  to  enable  the  old  geophone. 

CC  Okay.     I  take  it  that  means  you've  taken  the  geo- 

phone photos . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes,  sir;  and  I  forgot  the  gnomon  (laughter). 

CC  (Laughter)    Hey,  Jack.    How  about  giving  me  a 

couple  of  q.uick  readings  here  to  satisfy  some 
people .     One ,  was  there  a  decal  on  the  LEAM  that 
you  aligned  it  with?    There's  some  controversy 
down  here  that  there's  no  decal  there;  and  the 


Tape  79A/36 


question  is,  if  there  isn't  they  want  a  reading 
out  of  the  degrees.    But  ve  keep  saying  there's  a 
LEAM  decal,  and  we  can't  prove  it. 

IWP-EVA    I'll  go  prove  it.  Bob.     I'll  go  by  there.  Stand 
ty. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    What's  the  other  question? 

CC  And  the  second  question  is,  is  there  a  decal  and 

was  it  aligned  on  the  ...  the  20-degree  decal  on 
the  LSG.    Was  that  also  aligned? 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

IWP-EVA  The  orange  one. 

CC  Roger .    Agree . 

LMP-EVA  As  per  drawing. 

CC  Roger,  sir. 

LMP-EVA  As  per  drawing. 

CC  Roger.    You  don't  have  to  prove  it  to  me. 

UIP-EVA  Yes,  I  do. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Okay,  Bob,  I  was  able  — 

CC  Okay;  and.  Jack,  how  far   

CDR-EVA  -  -  to  pull  the  core  out  -  - 

CC  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  -  -  with  the  drill.     I  was  able  to  pull  the  core 
out  with  the  drill,  about  3  inches.    And  it's 
all  Jacking  material  from  there  out. 


Tape  T9A/37 


CC  Okay,  copy  that,  Geno.    And  we  finally  got  some 

word  from  the  Cape  to  prove  to  people  that  there's 
a  decal  on  the  LEAM,  so  you  don't  have  to  go  hack 
by  that.  Jack.    Just  at  the  right  time. 

LMP-EVA    I  already  have.     It's  reading  -  it's  reading  30. 
And  here's  the  decal. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I  guess  I'd  take  ALSEPs  word. 
CDR-EVA  Good. 

LMP-EVA    One  more.  Once  more  I  tempt  the  fate  of  the  god 
of  the  cables. 

CC  Okay;  and.  Jack,  we're  getting  ready  here  to  try 

and  save  a  little  bit  of  time.    And  we're  saying 
that  why  don't  we  just  take  two  stereo  pans  for 
the  ALSEP  photos.     First  stereo  pan  will  be  in 
the  vicinity  of  the  original  stereo  pan;  and  the 
second  one,  they  suggested,  will  be  to  the  north- 
west -  of  that  original  one. 

LMP-EVA    Northwest.  Okay. 

CC  Yes,  and  I  suggest  that  you  go  far  enough  so  that 

you  can  see  the  LEAM  past  the  central  station. 

MP-EVA    Yes  ,  sir . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  (laughter)  you'll  be  interested  to  know 
I  just  put  a  -  I  just  put  a  plug  in  the  top  of 
that  core;  and  it  disappeared  from  sight  down  the 
center  -  center  of  the  core.     I'll  put  a  cap  on 
it,  too;  but  I  want  to  plug  it  first.     I  want 
to  -  I  want  to  get  the  rammer  to  plug  it  down. 

oil  22  07  h3    LMR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  where  do  you  want  the  focus  on  the  pan- 
to be? 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  T9B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


oh  22  08  27    CMP    within  the  crater  rim. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  But  I'm  sure  it  isn't  that  way. 

CC  Yes ,  we've  got   

CC  Ron,  if  you're  right  there,  we'd  like  you  to  take 
the        tank  2  FANs  to  OFF,  please. 

Oh  22  09  h2    CMP  Okay.  tank  2  FANs  to  OFF. 

CMP  You  know,  from  the  pictures  of  Maraldi  Gamma, 


looked  to  me  like  it  might  have  been  some  sort 
of  a  -  a  -  well,  mayhe  even  a  volcanic  dome  or 
some  kind.    Now  when  you  look  at  it  up  there  now 
and  compare  it  with  the  rest  of  the  surrounding 
material,  it  looks  just  like  any  other  -  any  of 
the  other  sculptured  hills.    They  have  small 
domical  structures  on  it,  the  same  type  of  material 
that  carries  on  through  south  of  Maraldi .    And  it 
looks  like  maybe  some  kind  of  a  mare  fill  has 
come  in  and  filled  up,  Maraldi  itself.    You  can 
see  flow  lines,  it  looks  like,  going  down  into 
Maraldi  from  Tranquillitatis .     Now  -  The  impact 
on  the  craters  that  are  inside  Maraldi,  they're 
smaller-type  craters  and  they  have  a  -  they  have 
a  definite  bluish  tinge  to  the  halo  that  comes 
out  as  opposed  to  the  bright  -  opposed  to  the 
bright  craters  or  white-type  thing  and  those  are  - 
have  more  of  a  bl  -  a  darkish  bluish  tin  -  tinge 
to  them.     And  -  - 

CC  Thank  you,  Ron. 

CMP    oddly  enough,  that's  the  same  type  of  -  That's 

the  same  type  of  bluish  tinge  that  I  see  right  in 
the  landing  site  right  now.     In  the  Pentagon  com- 
plex, MOCR  shows  up  that  -  that  same  type  of  a 
bluish  tinge  to  it. 


Tape  79B/2 


CC  Roger.     Did  you  have  any  luck  locating  the  LM 

area  in  the  landing  site  this  time? 

CMP  Yes,  I  don't  even  see  the  bright  spot  there 

anymore.     I  know  -  I  know  where  to  look  for  it 
and  I  don't  even  see  it. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

Oh  22  12  30    CMP  Well,  South  Massif  just  went  into  a  hole,  too, 

so  - 

CC  Roger.    Our  hest  estimate  of  their  location  down 

here.     Ron  is  -  83  -  Delta  Mike  83.     Delta  Mike  83. 

CMP  Delta  Mike  83,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  and  that's  -  that's  seen  on  the  southeast 

sheet  -  the  FE  sheet  with  the  landing  site  and 
the  first  EVA  on  it.     The  one,  the  25,000  grid 
map  on  the  -  one  of  those  you  had  put  in  at  the 
last  minute  there. 

CMP  Okay, 

CC  And  I  assume  you're  set  up  for  these  pictures 

coming  up  at  121,  right? 

CMP  Yes.     It's  funny,  I  can  see  Bessel,  but  I'll  be 

durn  if  I  can  see  a  Copernican  ray  going  across 
it  -  I  mean  a  Tycho  ray  going  -  Copernican  ray, 
I  guess. 

CC  I  think  you  were  right  the  first  time,  weren't 

you? 

CMP  Yes,  it's  a  Tycho  ray. 

CC  Ron,  I'm  sorry  we  missed  this  last  time.  If 

you'll  give  me  a  hack  when  you  start  on  the  oarth- 
shine  photos  on  PIT,  the  Copernicus  one,  I'll  - 
I'll  time  your  30  seconds  for  you  down  here  .-irid 
save  you  looking  at  the  clock.     And  -  - 


CMP 


Oh,  okay.     Hey,  that's  a  good  idea. 


Tape  T9B/3 


CC  I  guess  even  though  the  start  time  we  passed  and 

everything  is  the  time,  Farouk  wanted  to  remind 
you  that  when  you  pass  Eratosthenes  is  a  good 
time  to  he  looking  into  the  heart  of  Copernicus, 
there.     If  you'll  remember  from  the  map,  there. 

CMP  Okay.    Hey,  that's  a  good  idea;  thank  you. 

ok  22  16  28    CC  Were  you  able  to  see  the  SuX-  Sulpicius  Gallus 

Ridge  there,  Ron? 

CMP  Yes,  man  oh  man.     That  thing  really  sticks  up 

there . 

CMP  I'm  trying  to  estimate  the  height  of  it  with  re- 

spect to  one  of  those  craters  down  there,  but  - 
I  -  I  still  can't  get  over  the  -  the  difference 
in  the  color  and  the  annulus  around  Serenitatis. 
And  that  thing  is  really  apparent. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  And  it  looks  like  -  the  color-  -  the  color  dis- 

tinction -  stops  right  at  this  ridge  here,  just 
as  we're  going  into  the  sunset  right  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  I'm  trying  to  determine  a  -  a  flow  with  respect 

to  those  ridges,  if  there  is  such  a  thing. 

CMP  I'll  have  to  look  at  it  again  when  I  come  around 

the  next  time.    Okay,  Ki  -  Kilo's  got  69  frames. 

CC  Roger . 

ok  22  21  hQ    CC  Okay,  Ron.     You're  about  2  minutes  from  T-start 

time,  but  again  bias  your  T-start  time  with  re- 
spect to  the  crater  Eratosthenes . 

CMP  Okay.    Why  don't  you  just  kind  of  give  me  a  -  ... 

gouge  when  I  should  be  at  Era-tosthenes  (chuckle). 

CC  Okay.     I'll  give  a  call  and,  of  course,  your  first 

frame  is  -  - 


Tape  79B/U 


CMP  I  think  I ' 11  -  - 

CC  -  -  first  frame  is  f/1.2  for  1  second  and  you'll 

take  two  frames . 

CMP  Okay. 

Ok  22  23  27    CC            Okay,  Ron.    You're  about  30  seconds  from  T-start 

time. 

Oh  22  23  1*5    CMP           Okay.  I  think  I  got  her. 

CC  Okay,  just  give  me  a  call  when  you  start.  You're 

about  10  seconds  out,  now. 

CMP  Okay.     Stand  by  3,  2,  1  - 

01+  22  23  59    CMP  MASK  it. 

CMP  Okayi  switch  to  a  half. 

CC  Okay,  coming  up  on  30  seconds. 

Oh  22  2h  27    CC  MAEK  it. 

CMP  Okay,  got  it.    The  fourth. 

CC  Okay,  coming  up  on  another  30  second,  here  - 

Oh  22  2h  57    CC  MARK  it. 

CMP  Okay.     Okay,  I'm  down  to  1/15-     I'm  Just  now  pass- 

ing it.  Bob.    So  there's  a  one  on  1/15. 

CC             Okay,  you're  one  ahead  on  the  figure.     You  should 
be  at  1/8   

CMP  Two  on  the  15   

CC  -  -  right  now. 

CMP   I'll  start  my  time  from  there.     Yes,  I've  - 

I've  already  passed  it  so  I  had  to  get  them  quick 
( chuckle ) . 

CC  Okay,  there  you  are  1/8  there. 


Tape  T9B/5 


CM'  Okay,  tell  me  when  to  -  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.    The  rest  of  them  1/8? 

CC  No,  at  1/16  or  l/l5. 

CMP  Okay.    Give  me  a  time  hack  every  30  seconds. 

CC  Well  -  okay. 

CMP  Or  whenever,  tell  me  to  switch  windows. 

OI+  22  26  00     CC  HACK  it. 

CC  Coming  up  on  30  seconds. 

Ok  22  26  30    CC  MARK  it. 

CC  Coming  up  on  another  mark,  Ron. 

ok  22  27  00    CC  HACK  it. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Just  a  reminder,  the  end  of  this  line  goes  up  to 
Encke  Eind  Kepler;  you've  probably  reviewed  that. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  Coming  up  on  another  mark. 

OU  22  27  30    CC  HACK. 

CC  Coming  up  on  our  other  mark. 

ok  22  27  58    CC  MARK  it, 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

Ok  22  28  30    CC  MARK  it. 

CMP  Pictures  in  here.  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You'll  be  coming  up  on  another  mark 
here. 


Tape  T9B/6 

Oh  22  28  57    CC  MARK  it. 

CMP  Got  it. 


CC  Okay,  according  to  my  calciilations  you've  got 

two  more  sets  of  two  frames  each  to  take.  You've 
taken  20  and  you've  got  four  more  to  go,  I  believe, 


CMP  Okay,  I  want  to  get  some  for  Reiner  Gamma  right? 

CC  Roger.    As  soon  as  you  do  that,  you  Just  switch 

windows  to  the  north  side  and  -  Reiner  Gamma  - 
You  got  two  more  to  go.     Here  we  go.     Coming  up 
on  another  30  seconds. 


CMP  Okay. 

Oh  22  29  29    CC  MARK  it.     You  probably  should  be  able  to  see 

Encke  out  there  now.  That's  your  last  target 
there . 


CMP  Okay.    Switch  over  to  window  3,  then. 

CC  Okay.    Did  you  take  that  last  one  on  Encke  or  you 

got  two  more  to  go  on  Encke  there? 

CMP  ...  I've  got  -  I've  only  got  19  frames  left  so  - 

CC  Okay .     That ' s  the  last  ...  it  marked  there . 

CMP  Same  thing  on  the  Eratosthenes?  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     On  these  Reiner  Gamma  pictures,  you 

don't  have  to  wait  30  seconds.     You  just  shoot 
the  frames  as  soon  as  you  get  it  in  view  there. 
Shoot  two  frames  at  1  second,  two  at  1/2, 
two  at  1/lt,  and  two  at  1/8. 

CMP  Okay.    Would  you  -  would  you  believe  that's  what 

I  did  on  Eratosthenes  and  also  on  Copernicus? 

CC  Roger.     That's  what  you're  supposed  to  do  on 

Copernicus  so  you  remembered  better  than  me  on 
that  one.     It  wasn't  30  seconds  -  - 


CMP 


(Laughter) 


Tape  T9B/7 


CC    until  after  Copernicus. 

CMP  Yes.    Well,  I  made  a  mistake  too.     I  thought 

Eratosthenes  was  Copernicus.  But  anyhow  we  t^ot  - 
we  got  a  series  on  Eratosthenes  and  also  a  series 
on  Copernicus.     So  we're  in  good  shape. 

CC  Okay.     You  should  be  seeing  Gamma  aljout  now, 

shouldn't  you? 

CMP  Yes,  but  I  don't  see  it  yet. 

CC  Okay . 

CC  Ron,  you  can  just  run  this  mag  all  the  way  out 

to  frame  UO.     After  you  finish  on  Gamma,  you  just 
continue  on  out  that  line  up  towards  Riccioli; 
and  -  and  then  run  out  to  frame  ko  and  stow  it. 

Oh  22  32  19    CMP  Okay;  will  do, 

oh  22  36  5h    CMP  Okay.    Got  her  in  sight  now. 

OU  22  h6  hS,    CC  Okay,  Ron.     Did  you  get  that  mag  finished  up? 

CMP  Okay.    All  but  one  picture  and  I  was  going  to 

try  to  take  one  of  Orientale.     I've  saved  one 
there  just  for  right  on  the  edge. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  So  I'm  just  kind  of  looking  out  the  window  now. 

Why,  do  you  have  some  Flight  Plan  stuff? 

CC  I've  only  got  one  minor  Flight  Plan  and  that's 

all  so  any  time  you're  ready,  don't  -  you  know, 
don't  tear  yourself  away  from  the  window  as  long 
as  you  can  see  anything  here. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  We  would  like  you  to  select  OMNI  Alfa. 


Oh  22  hi  30  CMP 


OMNI  Alfa. 


Tape  79B/8 


CC  And,  if  you're  looking  at  anything  and  you  can 

see  anything  interesting,  we  wouldn't  mind  hearing 
about  it. 


CMP  Okay. 

CMP  The  big  difference  right  in  here,  of  course,  is 

the  -  the  ejecta  and  the  radial  furrows  and  ridges 
and  what  have  you  from  Orientale  -  there  isn't  - 
doesn't  seem  to  be  that  type  of  a  pattern  at  all 
on  the  back  side. 


CC  Roger.  Understand. 

Ol*  22  50  27    CC  Can  you  still  see  -  see  things  in  earthshine  or 

is  it  getting  pretty  black  down  there? 

CMP  Actually,  you  know.     You  can  still  see  it.  'niat's 

what  kind  of  amazes  me.     It's  almost  like  -  you 
know,  sunrise  and  siinset. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Pretty  soon,  the  shadows  get  longer  and  longer. 

CC  I  tell  you,  we  got  the  television  screen  here  of 

the  -  - 

Oh  22  51  07    CMP  Okay;  that's  my  last  picture  off. 

CC  Roger.     You're  going  to  have  a  couple  of  dirty 

companions  when  they  come  back  up,  I'll  tell  you. 

CMP  (Laughter)    What  are  they  doing?    Getting  all 

dirty? 

CC  Well,  I  think  they've  just  fallen  a  couple  of 

times,  and  they're  black  all  over. 

CMP  Yes,  it  looked  like  a  dark  area  down  there. 

CC  Well,  they  s;ire  are  dirty.     Okay,  Ron,  I  -  in  the 

Flight  Plan  at  133:12,  way  on  ahead,  you  just  might 
mark  this  down  somewhere.     It's  a  real  simple  - 
"MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER,  OPEN,"  and 
"MAPPING  CAMERA,  EXTEND,"  you'll  just  delete  those 
since  they're  already  there. 


Tape  T9B/9 


CMP  Okay.     Let's  see  -  where  was  that  now,  about 

131,  Bob? 

CC  133:12.     It's  in  the  other  volume,  in  the  next 

volume  of  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Oh,  (chuckle)  I'll  Just  write  it  down,  I  don't 

have  that  voliame  out . 

CC  Yes,  Just  mapping  -  it's  delete  the  "MAPPING 

CAMERA/ LASER  ALTIMETER,  OPEN,"  and  "MAPPING 
CAMERA  -  EXTEND."    Just  delete  those  two  functions. 
You  remember  it's  already  out  and  the  cover  is 
staying  open  because  it's  out. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    And  that's  about  131,  huh? 

CC  133:12,  133:12. 

CMP  Okay.    133  plus  12. 

CC  And,  Ron,    We  made  a  trip  arovind  the  room  here 

and  the  CSM  systems  are  all  GO.     They  all  look 
good  and  the  lunar  sounder  is  looking  good  also. 

CMP  Hey.     Real  fine.     I  guess  I'll  grab  a  bite  to  eat 

then  here  pretty  quick. 

CC  Yes ,  do  that ,  will  you?    Sorry  you  missed  that 

other  one. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Oh,  I  filled  in,  every  once  in  a 

while  so  that's  not  too  bad. 

CC  Good  enough. 

CC  And  just  a  reminder,  which  is  in  the  Flight  Plan, 

DSE  voice  recorded  at  the  back  side  will  not  be 
dumped  -  so  - 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 


Tape  T9B/10 


CC  And,  Ron,  the  reason  vhy  we  've  got  all  the        FAUs , 

OFF,  now  is  we're  trying  to  get  the  press\ir€s  to 
drop  some  and  we'll  come  up  with  a  sleep  config- 
uration this  next  half. 

Ok  22  3h  12    CMP  Oh,  okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  80A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

oh  22  07  51    CC  Stand       on  that. 

LMP-EYA    About  15  feet? 
CC  Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    Where's  my  rammer?    There  It  is. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  that's  strange.    That  plug  was  too  small 
for  the  core. 

CC  Hey,  Jack.    You  got  a  focus  that's  somewhat  short 

of  7  -  Well,  between  7^  feet  and  -  Just  a  little 
short  of  ih  feet? 

LMP-EVA    I've  already  taken  it  at  15,  Bob.     I  think  that's 
pretty  good. 

CC  Okay;  that's  -  Okay.    We  couldn't  get  an  estimate. 

LMP-EVA    It's  not  a  calibrated  detent,  but  I  don't  think 
you  need  it  here. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    How  far  northwest? 

CC  Go  aliead,  17. 

LMP-EVA    About  the  same  -  about  the  same  position  as  the 
heat  flow  down-Sun  -  or  up-Sun? 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  -  I  was  able  to  -  - 

CC  Yes.    That  sounds  pretty  good  to  me.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    to  get.     Bob,  I  ran  that  plug  three-quarters  - 

two-thirds  of  the  way  down  the  rammer,  and  it  -  11. 
hit  solid  paydirt. 

CC  Okay.    That  sounds  good. 


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LMP-EVA    And  I'll  put  a  cap  on  it  for  you,  too. 

CC  Okay.    That'll  make  people  happy.    Did  you  copy 

me.  Jack,  that  ...  6  o'clock  to  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  knew  it  would.    And  that   

CC  And  - 

LjyiP-EVA    Roger,  Bob. 

CC  And,  Jack,  would  you  confirm  for  the  ground  that 

you  got  the  LSP  enabled? 

LMP-EVA    That's  cap  Alfa.    No,  I  didn't.    You  interrupted 
me.    Good  boy.    I  was  on       way,  and  the  LEAM 
interrupted  me.     I'll  get  it. 


CC  Roger. 
oh  22  11  01    LMP-EVA    Keep  after  me. 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  that's  cap  Alfa  -  that's  on  the  -  that's  on 
the  -  the  core. 

CC  Say  again  there,  Geno. 

CC  Jack,  you're  taking  your  second  pan,  right? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  not  sure  they're  hearing  us  all  the  time. 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  the  camera  Just  stopped. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  man! 

CC  Okay,  what   

CDR-EVA    Oh ! 

CC   was  your  question,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    I  just  said  that  was  cap  Alfa  on  the  core.    And  let 
rae  tell  you  it's  coming,  but  this  thing  is  really 
in  something.  Oh. 

LMP-EVA    Woiold  you  believe  I'm  out  of  film.  Bob? 

CC  Okay.     I'm  afraid  I'll  have  to. 


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LMP-K'^A    Why  didn't  I  look  at  the  number? 

CC  You  want  to  give  me  a  frame  count ,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Mag  Alfa  is  empty. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    It's  158. 

CC  Copy,  158. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  we're  recommending  magazine  Hotel,  and 

we  also  suggest  you  take  the  second  pan,  when  you 
retake  it,  at  7^  feet. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Man,  it  didn't  feel  like  this  stuff  was  this  hard. 

LMP-EVA    What's  the  problem,  Geno?    You  need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    No,  nothing  you  can  do.    Just  -  just  jacking  away. 

See  if  I  can  get  this  thing  out  of  the  way.  See 

if  I  can  get  It  out,  is  what  I'm  really  saying. 

I  may  be  jacking  the  treadle  down  into  the  siirface. 

LMP-EVA    Change  hands. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  if  you  haven't  put  magazine  Hotel  on, 

we  want  to  recall  that  amd  make  it  magazine  Golf  - 
Gail. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  Bob,  I've  already  got  it  on. 
CC  Okay ,     Sorry  about  that . 

LMP-EVA    Is  that  okay? 
CC  Leave  it  on. 

LMP-SVA    I  know  what  you  want .    You  want  color . 
CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  anyway,  it's  black  and  white  also. 


Tape  SOA/k 


CDR-EVA    Gail  is  not  -  you  mean  Charlie. 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  want  color,  or  do  you  want  Charlie? 

CC  Stand  -  stand  ty.  Jack,  if  you're  still  at  the 

Rover . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  still  here,  but  I  got  Hotel  on. 

CC  Okay.    Leave  Hotel  on.    That's  -  we  -  we 

goofed.     ...  accepted. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  okay.    We  don't  have  much  time;  otherwise 
I'd  change  it.     I  should  have  thought  of  that 
myself. 

Oh  22  15  37    CC  Well,  couldn't  get  ...  there  -  - 

CDR-EVA    We  got  a  little  time  because  I've  got  a  lot  of 
Jacking  to  do.    Man!  I   

LMP-EVA    Let  -  let  me  finish  the  pan  and  come  and  help  you. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  there's  not  -  not  a  lot  you  can  do.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  the  neutron  flux  ready. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  thanks  a  lot. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Come  on,  baby.    I'm  going  to  get  this  thing 
out,  now  that  I  got  it. 

CC  Boy,  you  know,  that's  what  you  call  getting  down 

into  your  work. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'll  save  my  comments  until  later.     I  hope  - 
this  core  is  appreciated. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    And  I  have  word  from  the  back  room 

that  it  is  appreciated. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that  makes  me  feel  warm.     I'll  get  it.  You're 
going  to  have  to  bear  with  me.    Man,  I  don't  know 
what  it's  in. 

LMP-EVA    I  was  afraid  that  would  happen  -  with  all  those 
rocks . 


Tape  80 A/ 5 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  it  didn't  go  in  that  hard. 

CC  Hey,  Geno,  hovr  about  slacking  off  for  a  ^linute 

there.     You  got  pretty  -  going  pretty  lard. 

CDR-ET/A    Okay .     One  more  turn  and  I '  11  get  up .     I '  ve  got  to 
hit  an  easy  spot  sooner  or  later. 


CC  It  seems  that  way. 

CDR-EVA.    You're  right.  Boh.     I'm  going  to  take  a  rest.  You 
^et  you.     Man,  I  hate  to  say  it,  but  I  -  I  had  that 
25  percent  of  the  way  there.     I  can  feel  it  ticking 
now.     I'm  going  cold. 


CC  Okay. 

oh  22  l8  19    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh.     I  i:Gt  your  pans  and  a  couple  pictures 

of  the  heat-flov  probe. 


CC  Okay  -  - 

LMP-EVA    ITow,  let's  see  

CC   okay.  Gene  -  Jack.     If  you've  got  the  two 

separate  pans  there,  we're  suggesting  that  you  - 
in  since  the  -  the  CDR  is  still  working  on  the 
core  recovers,  we  suggest  that  you  sample  the  large 
boulders  and  loose  material  on  top  of  some  of  the 
smaller  large  boulders  in  the  vicinity.     I  would 
look  through  some  sampling  here  while  Geno's  pump- 
ing  on  the  old  Jack.    Unless  you've  got  something 
that  -  - 


Ll'C-EVA    You  want  me  to  help  him? 

CC  Well,  unless  you  guys  -  Okay.     If  you'd  let  me 

finish.    Unless  you  guys  think  that  two  guys  can 
do  that  better  than  one,  I'm  not  sure. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  you  want  me  to  spell  you  a  little? 

CDR-SVA    Jack,  I  don't  think  there's  a  lot  you  can  do. 

Come  on  over  here  1  minute.     Let's  see  if  I  can  -  - 


LMP-EVA    Well,  I  can  use  up  some  of  my  water. 


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CDR-EVA    Let's  see  if  I  can't  get  a  bigger  bite  -  you  on  one 
end,  and  let  me  stand  on  the  treadle  and  ve  might 
be  able  to  get  a  bigger  bite.     See,  I  can't  get  a 
very  big  bite.    That's  one  of  the  problems. 

CC  And,  Jack,  could  you  verify  we  have  the  LMP  ENABLE 

on  ...  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  just  hope  that  jack  doesn't  break. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I'll  get  it.    I  knew  there  was  something  I 
needed  to  do . 

CDR-EVA    Get  the  jack  end  over  here  -  other  side.     Let  me  - 
let  me  put  some  weight  here.    See  if  you  can  - 
see  -  what  -  what  kind  of  bite  you  can  get. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  man. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  what  I've  been  doing.    See  if  you  can 
get  a  bigger  - 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  no. 

CDR-EVA    It's  coming,  though.     See,  Just  -  Here,  let  me  get 
my  foot  down  there  and  you  get  -  you  get  -  jack. 
See,  that's  the  key.    No,  I  think  I  can  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     If  I  do  it  that  way  - 

CDR-EVA    Get  her  way  down  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Wow  try  it. 

CDS-EVA    See,  we  got  a  couple  of  inches  there  to  throw. 

We're  all  right.    There  you  go.    Do  that  for  a 
little  bit. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Let  me  put  my  foot  on  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  ready? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  It's  got  to  loosen  up  sooner  or  later. 


Tape  80A/T 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    That's  another  good  one.    When  you're  tired, 
I'll  do  that  and  you  can  do  this.     See,  this  way, 
I  can  -  you  can  get  a  bigger  throv.     Okay.  Let 
me  know  when  and  I'll  do  that . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  all  right. 

LMP-EVA    Does  it  feel  like  it's  loosening  up  at  all? 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 
LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Excuse  me.     Yes,  go  ahead.     (Laughter)     Okay,  okay, 
okay  (laughter). 

LMP-EVA    Stay  there.    Stay  there.    Okay,  hack.    Thank  you. 

Fell  on  my  UHT,  among  other  things.    Okay.  Let's 
try  that  again. 

CDR-EVA    You  want  to  get  over  here  and  I'll  do  that  for  a 
while . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  that's  all  right.     I'm  -  I  Just  lost  my  balance. 
Let  me  -  can  I  hold  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    You  can  hold  there,  and  I'll  hold,  too. 

LMP-EVA    That  seems  like  a  little  easier. 

CDR-EVA    Yes .    That  looks  to  me  like  it  should  be  getting 
easy.    Just  hold  on  to  me  and  - 

Oh  22  21  51    LMP-EVA  What  was  that? 

CDR-EVA  Huh? 

LMP-EVA  I  had  a  tone.    It  was  probably  a  - 

CDR-EVA  You  still  got  it? 

LMP-EVA  Gone,  momentary.     I  probably  got  a  - 

CDR-EVA  You  get  over  here.     Get  over  here.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  This  is  all  right. 

CDR-EVA  No,  let  me  get  over  there. 


Tape  80A/8 


LMP-EVA    It's  coming  now. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  come  over  here? 

LMP-EVA    Come  on,  one  more.    I  think  we're  going  to  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Come  on  over  here  and  hold  your  foot  against 
that  thing.    Just  hold  that  -  that  little  thing 
down.    That's  the  main  thing.  Ready? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we're  getting  it  now. 

CDR-EVA    I  need  your  foot  on  that  thing.    See  if   

LMP-EVA    There  you  go.    I  don't  know  what  kind  of  hole  we're 
going  to  have. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Put  it  -  get  your  foot  down  on  that  thing 
again. 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute.    Let  me  -  Okay.    I  jacked  the 

treadle  down  about  6  inches.  Okay.  It's  loosening 
up  a  little  bit,     I  keep  saying  that,  don't  I? 

CDR-EVA  No.    It  -  it  didn't  change  while  I  had  it  there. 

CDR-EVA  I  can  get  it.    Why  don't  you  go  get  your  -  your  pan. 

LMP-EVA  You  got  that? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.    Why  don't  you  get  your  pan  and  your   

LMP-EVA  I've  got  that.     I  got   

CDR-EVA  -  -  LSPE,  and  I'll  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I'll  get  that  and  a  few  samples,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Go  ahead  and  do  that.    I  can  get  it. 

CDR-EVA  Whee.     Let  me  tell  you.  Red  Rover,  let  me  tell  you. 

LMP-EVA  I  know  whose  face  is  smiling  back  there. 

LMP-EVA    You  don't  suppose  this  is  why  we  didn't  have  much 
dust  from  the  LM,  do  you? 


Tape  8OA/9 


CDR-EVA    I  think  it  is  (laughter). 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    I  saw  all  the  way  to  the  ground  during 
landing. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

OU  22  2k  2k    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston.    Mark  it,  enabled. 
CC  Okay,  finally.    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Whoops,  I  moved  your  an  -  your  central  station, 
I've  got  to  realign  on  your  antenna. 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack.    Wait  a  minute. 

I,MP-EVA    Well,  the  gnomon's  still  aligned.     I  thought  I 
moved  it. 

CC  Okay.    Well,  let  it  be. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    We  should  have  raised  the  flag  on  this  thing. 
It  looks  just  the  same  as  when  I  left  it,  but  I 
thought  I  moved  it . 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Is  it  okay.  Bob? 

CC  Okay.    Leave  it  alone  for  right  now.  Jack,  and  we'll 

get  a  reading  on  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  For  a  minute  or  so.    And,  Jack,  I  guess  riglit  now, 

you  might  get  some  fairly  rapid  samples  in  the  ai-ea, 
since  you're  probably  almost  ready  to  leave.  And 
can  you  tell  us  what  you  saw  there  in  the  vicinity 
of  the  -  you  were  giving  us  a  description  of  the 
boulders  there  and  plateness  of  the  -  and  alignment 
of  the  crystals  -  the  plag.    You  want  to  amplify 
that  a  little  bit? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  then.     I  will  as  soon  as  I  get  back  over 

there  with  the  sample  bag.    Bag  10  Echo  -  10  Echo  - 
is  a  sample  of  a  very  large  boulder  that's  just 
beyond  geophone  3.     Just  west  -  just  south. 


Tape  80A/10 


CC  Copy  that,  10  Echo,  and  boulder  east  of  which 

geophone? 

LMP-EVA    South  of  geophone  3  -  southwest.     And  I  got  a  few 
photos  to  doc,  here  -  document  the  boulder.  I'm 
not  svire  I  documented  the  sample,  though. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    It  -  it's  a  -  it's  the  -  the  same  kind  of  rock  - 
the  same  kind  of  rock  I  saw  near  the  LM  -  and  the 
gabbro  -  I'm  beginning  to  lean  towards  50  percent 
plagioclase,  though. 


CC  Okay. 

OU  22  27  13    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  had  to  remove  the  treadle  from  the  hole  and 

I'll  tell  you  later  why. 


CC  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  me.    Wo,  I'll  tell  you  later  why.    I'm  Just 
figtiring,  oh  me,  how  am  I  going  to  get  all  this 
stuff  now?    I'm  going  to  lose  my  hole.    Okay,  it 
was  right  there.     In  our  fiasco  over  here,  we 
knocked  everything  over. 


LMP-EVA    Did  I  ruin  something? 

CDR-EVA    Ko,  I've  Just  got  to  stoop  over  to  get  things  and 
that's  a  major  -  major  -  effort  these  days. 

LMP-EVA    Can  I  help  you? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I  got  it  here.     I've  got  a  delicate  core  in  one 
hand,  and  I'm  trying  to  get  some  core  caps  in  the 
other.    You'd  be  glad  to  know  it's  full,  Bob.  And 
while  I 'm  the  only  one  to  see  the  bottom  end  right 
now,  I'm  going  to  tell  you,  it  -  it  looks  like  -  it 
looks  like  what  I'm  walking  on,  but  it's  obviously 
now  powdery.    It's  obviously  very  -  very  cohesive, 
because  it  -  it  -  The  bottom  of  the  core  is  not 
smooth,  it's  very  jaggedy,  and  f ragmental-like . 

CC  Okay,  copy  that,  Geno.    Very  good. 


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CDR-EVA    Yes .     I 'm  -  I 'm  being  very  caref^ll  with  yoiu'  core 

here,  but  I've  got  to  do  a  few  -  little  lioutiokt^epLnf; 
chores  first . 

CC  Okay.    Have  you  got  that  neutron  flux  over  there 

in  the  vicinity,  or  is  it  still  back  at  the  Rover? 

CDR-EVA    No,  sir,  I  already  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  good  enough. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I've  been  looking. 

CC  And  Jack,  in  your  travels  there,  while  you're  doing 

some  sampling,  if  you  hap  -  happen  to  wander  by 
in  the  vicinity  -  approximate  vicinity  of  the  double 
core  -  the  deep  core,  you  might  get  us  a  Rover 
sample  of  the  soil  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Bob  -  Bob ,  and  -  the  core  is  filled  to  within  a  -  aii 
eighth  or  certainly  less  than  a  quarter  of  an  inch 
from  the  -  from  the  bit. 

CC  Okay.    Sounds  good  to  me.     Soiinds  like  a  good  - 

good  candidate  for  a  cap. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir,  and  it's  got  Bravo  on  and  the  plug  has 
been  discarded. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Now,  let  me  see  what  else  I  can  get  here,  before  I 
get  too  upset.     I  need  my  -  my  -  the  -  the  -  the 
drill,  besides  performing  admirably,  is  a  tool  of 
necessity  to  lean  over  and  pick  things  up  with. 
Except  when  you  let  it  fall  down. 

CC  Okay.     And  our  next  priority  is  to  put  the  neutron 

flxix  down  the  hole,  we  hope. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we  shall  see.    Man,  I  don't  even  know  if  I 
can  find  the  hole.     It's  in  the  shadow  now.  I 
guess  I  can  see  it  down  there.     There  it  is. 
Okay.     You  asked,  and  with  a  little  bit  of  luck, 
you  shall  receive. 


Tape  8OA/12 


CDR-EVA    Listen,  I'm  earning  my  three  and  a  quarter  a  day- 
today.    Oh,  hoy,  I  don't  want  to  lose  the  raimner 
either.    Let  me  get  that  before  that  gets  lost  in 
the  shuffle.    We  don't  want  to  lose  that  for  sure. 

Oh  22  31  OT    CDR-EVA    I  het  you  all  think  I'm  stepping  on  that  hole,  don't 

you? 

CC  I  don't.     John  doesn't,  either. 

LMP-EVA    Boh,  I  see  no  -  no  clear  alignment  of  plagioclase 
or  pyroxene  in  this  rock.    That's  the  one  with  the 
parting  in  it.     It  looks  as  if  -  integrating  what 
I've  seen  here  and  over  at  the  big  rock  -  the  geo- 
phone  rock  -  I  -  that  the  layering  or  the  foliation 
or  the  parting,  whichever  it  is,  is  the  result  of 
variations  in  vesicle  concentrations.     The  sample 
10  Echo  is  a  sample  of  the  more  coarsely  vesicular 
rock.    I  could  not  get  one  of  the  finer  -  more 
finely  or  nonvesicular  fragments.     But  I  got  pictures 
of  it. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And  do  you  see  any  -  any  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  having  trouble   

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA    Go  ahead. 

CC  Can  you  see  any  evidence  of  soil  on  top  of  some  of 

these  medium-sized  boulders? 

LMP-EVA    There's  soil.    A  little  bit  of  dust  in  some  of  the 

holes.    But  I  -  there's  not  enough  to  sample  at  this 
point.    I  may  find  some  later. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    He's  picking  up  ... 

LMP-EVA    Vesicle  walls  do  not  seem  to  be  as  shiny.    Most  of 
them  seem  to  have  dust  in  them. 

CC  Copy  that. 


LMP-EVA 


The  vesicler;  are  not  cleanly  spherical  -  they're 

spherical  but  they  have  fairly  roiagh  outlines. 

They  look  as  if  there's  been  some  recrystallization . 


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CC  All  right. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  will  ver  -  verify  that  the  lower  section  is 
on. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you,  Geno. 

LMP-EVA    I  picked  the  wrong  rock  to  sample  with  a  scoop, 
I'll  tell  you  that. 

CDR-EVA  Boy,  I'll  tell  you,  housekeeping  is  the  key  to  the 
world  right  now. 

CC  Okay,  Geno  and  -  let's   

CDR-EVA    Okay,  another  key  to  the  world  is  one  of   

CC  Geno,  stand  "by.    Hold  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Okay,  make  sure  that  the  top  of  it  doesn't  go  down 

through  the  hole,  too,  and  disappear,  either  by 
putting  it  through  the  treadle,  or  if  you're  sure 
this  the  -  or  whatever. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  Bob,  that  sure  is  a  good  thought.    You  know, 
I  had  to  take  the  treadle  off  because  the  Jack 
wouldn't  go  down  and  no  way  I  could  put  that 
treadle  -  Well,  let  me  t\irn  it  on  first.    That  was 
a  good  thought.    It  may  -  it  may  go  down  that  hole. 
That  would  be  terrible. 

CC  How  big's  the  hole  look,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA  See,  the  Jack  wouldn't  -  Well,  looks  big  enough  to 
put  this  down.  Let  me  -  let  me  use  my  Judgment  on 
it.    And  a  little  ingenuity. 

CDR-EVA  I  verified  the  top  was  on,  by  the  way. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

Ok  22  35  27    CDR-EVA  Shazam! 

CC  How  about  that,  loud  applause,  loud  applause. 


Tape  8OA/1U 


CDR-EVA    See  what  happened,  here,  to  that  treadle.  Bob.  I 
couldn't  get  the  jack  to  go  down  and  it  -  it  -  it 
made  the  hole  ohlong  when  I  -  but  it's  all  right 
now. 


CG  Okay;  beautiful,  beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    And  it  ended  up  all  right. 

CC  Okay.    And  why  don't  we  get  you  two  guys  together 

again,  now,  and  break  down  the  core  and  press  on. 
And  we've  got  a  little  revision  here  to  the  EVA. 
I'll  get  with  you  in  just  minute  on,  as  soon  as  I 
find  out  what  it  is . 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  feel  pretty  good  about  that  -  that  -  that 
makes  me  feel  pretty  good. 

LMP-EVA    Bag  17^+  -  k-Tk ,  klk ,  soil  from  next  to  this  big 

rock,  it's  the  fillet.  I  can't  get  a  chunk  of  the 
rock. 


Copy;  ITU,  fillet  beside  the  big  rock.    And,  Jack, 
while  you  coming  back  here  to  the  Rover,  why  don't 
you  get  one  more  Rover  sample  in  the  vicinity  of  the 
deep  drill,  while  you  and  Gene  get  ready  to  take  on 
the  core  stems .    And  because  of  being  a  little  bit 
behind  here,  what  we're  doing  is,  we're  getting 
prepared  to  drop  station  1  in  favor  od  doing  Steno. 
Over.    And  I'll  get  with  you  on  more  details  on 
that  In  a  minute. 


LMP-EVA    Well,  how  far  behind  are  we? 


Stand  by.     You're  about  -  between  35  and  1+0  minutes. 
And  part  of  the  problem  is  that  we're  a  little 
short  on  oxygen  on  Gene's  PLSS .     It  looks  like  it's 
a  6  minute  and  h  -  6  hours  and       minute  EVA  from 
that  point  of  view,  which  means  that  we  have  to  - 
we'd  have  to  leave  station  1  too  early,  which  is 
another  -  which  is  the  reason  to  curtail  station  1 
apart  from  just  behind  which  is  what  the  hooker 
was . 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  approaching  the  rear  of  the  Rover. 

I've  got  the  core,  the  cap,  the  wrench,  and  the 
rammer. 


Tape  8OA/15 


CC  '  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I  didn't  mean  to  breathe  up  all  that  oxygen. 

CC  Well,  there's  something  you  can't  help.     Even  the 

Surgeon  agrees  with  me  on  that  one.    And  for  yoiir 
thinking.  Jack  and  Gene,  what  we're  doing  is  planning 
on  going  to  the  west  side  of  Steno  and  that  boulder 
field  that's  part  way  out  to  station  1. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you  want  me  to  get  a  -  you  want  to  break  that 
and  I'll  go  get  this  sample.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    I'll  -  I'll  break  this  Jack;  no  sweat. 

LMP-EVA    Gene  has  pretty  well  chewed  up  the  ground.     I  helped 
him.    Do  you  want  me  to  get  a  little  ways  away 
frcm  it? 

CC  Stand  by.     I  don't  think  we're  interested  in  a  sur- 

face sample  in  the  last  top  little  bit  ring,  it's 
Just  a  -  in  the  top  -  just  a  surface  sample.  Stand 
by  1. 

CC  Anything  there  in  the  dirt.  Jack.     It  doesn't  have 

to  be  a  skim  sample  of  any  sort. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  breaking  down  the  core  at  the  tail 
end  of  the  Rover,  here. 

CC  Okay,  congratulations. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  don't  do  it  yet,  I  haven't  gotten  it  broken 
down  yet.    But  I  got  it  out  of  the  ground  with  a 
little  help. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  first  piece  of  three  sections  -  Bob,  it's 
full. 

CC  Okay,  beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    And  I  have  to  tell  you  which  end  I'm  taking  it 

from.    I  don't  remember  which  end  I've  got  here. 

CC  Tliat's  all  right,  since  we  got  the  cap  and  Alfa  on 

one  end  and  Bravo  on  the  other  end  -  Bravo. 


Tape  8OA/16 


CDR-EVA    Man!    There's  a  cap  that's  going  to  be  tough  to  get 
on.     I  put  that  on  with  a  hammer.    Oh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  there's  a  mixture  of  soil  and  rock  in 
CC  Okay,  copy  1|T5. 

LMP-EVA    The  soil  came  from  about  -  the  soil  came  from  about 
5  centimeters  -  0  to  5  centimeters. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    And  it's  about  3  meters  -  3  meters  -  3  meters  from 
the  hole.    Well  - 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  cap  Charlie  is  opposite  Alfa,  that  was 
the  first  3-section. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  it's  about  3  meters  from  the  hole.     I  got 

stereo  before  with  -  at  11  feet  and  one  after  at 
11  feet. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And  how  about  a  frame  count  there, 

Jack . 

LMP-EVA    Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    I  tell  you, 

CDR-EVA    No  -  no,  I  can  get  it.    Boy,  this  system  works  good. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  let  me  see.    Let  me  configure  the  old  LRV 
sampler ,  here. 

CC  Jack,  when  you  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Oh   

CC  Jack,  when  you  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  boy;  oh,  boy;  oh,  boy;  oh,  boy. 

CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston,  Over. 

LMP-EVA  Go  ahead. 


Tape  8OA/17 


CC  When  you  took  those  two  pans  off  the  ALSEP,  was 

one  at  15  feet  and  one  at  20  feet? 

LMP-EVA    One  was  at  focus  for  15  and  Jk. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    There's  a  partial  pan  -  there's  a  partial  pan  on 
mag  A,  which  was  taken  at  15 . 

CC  Okay.  Understand. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Boh  -  I  can't  see  what  it  is  -  I  guess  Delta 
and  Echo  is  the  -  the  2-section  core.  Delta  heing 
adjacent  to  the  first  section  of  3- 

ok  22  k3  08    CC  Roger.     Copy  that.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  baby,  just  go  on  there  -  nice.     The  last  - 
the  last  one  is  Foxtrot.    And  it's  on  tight. 


CDR-EVA  Ouch. 
LMP-EVA    Ann's  tired? 

CDR-EVA    That  hurts.     Oh,  me;  oh,  my.     I'm  going  to  take  a 
big  drink  of  water  here.    We  got  three  cores;  we 
got  the  neutron  flux  down;  and  we  got  two  heat 
probes,  and  an  ALSEP.     I  don't  care  if  we  are 
30  minutes  late.    Bob,  did  I  give  you  the  last  cap? 


CC  That's  okay.  Gene.     We  don't  really  need  it  -  the 

way  they're  broken  down,  there's  no  problem.  The 
323  stands  out  and  the  Bravo  on  the  bit  end  - 
there's  no  problem  there. 


CDR-EVA    Hey  - 

LMP-EVA    What  do  you  need,  babe?    Okay,  pull  that  off.  Pull 
this  off.  Here. 

LMP-EVA    Rotate  it  I80,  there. 

CDR-EVA    No,  no,  no,  just  the  -  the  total  thing.  That's 
good.    There  you  go. 

LMP-EVA    Like  that? 


Tape  8OA/I8 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

CC  Okay,  and,  17   

CDR-EVA    Now  you'll  have  to  line  it  up. 
CC  Go  ahead, 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'll  hold  it.    You  do  it. 
CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    ...  give  you  a  reading.  Boh,  before  you  speak. 

Wait  a  minute,  let  me  -  let  me  get  it  over  with. 
It's  670,  002,  601.     That's  67O,  002,  6OI. 

CC  Did  you  punch  GRAV  a  second  time?    That's  identical 

to  the  first  one. 


CDR-EVA    You  just  did  to  read  it.    That's  what  you  want,  isn't 
it? 


CC  Yes,  is  that  -  but  you  -  did  you  punch  GRAV  after 

the  first  reading  you  gave  me  there  at  the  ALSEP? 
Or  are  you  Just  reading  me  the  same  measurements 
you  did  before? 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  called  them  out  every  time  -  Bob,  I'm  read- 
ing it  right  here.    Everywhere  I've  punched  GRAV, 
you've  got  it  written  down  somewhere. 

Yes,  and  I  didn't  copy  your  punching  GRAV,  but 
the  one  -  - 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  did  not  -  when  I  went  back  -  Bob,  I  did  not  - 
when  I  went  to  get  the  treadle  and  the  neutron  flux 
and  rammer,  I  did  not  punch  GRAV. 

CC  Okay.    So  that's  the  same  as  the  first  one.  Never 

mind,  thank  you.    And  guys  -  we're  ready  for  you 
guys  -  as  you  go  along  here,  to  do  the  geo  prep 
and  press  on.    As  I  say,  we'll  go  to  Steno  and  come 
back  from  there  and  do  the  SEP.     Over.    Any  ques- 
tions about  that?    We'd  also  like  to  know  if  you 
have  the  gnomon,  back  of  the  Rover? 


Tape  80 A/ 19 


CDR-EVA  Yes,  we're  just   

LMP-EVA  Yes,  we  do. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  lay  cores  in.  Okay   

LMP-EVA  Can  you  -  can  you  put  that  in  that  sampler  tool 
"bag,  there? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  sir.    We're  configuring  for  geology,  now.  Bob 

CC  Okay ,  copy  that . 

OU  22  h6  kk    CDR-EVA    Bob,  right  now,  10  Echo  is  in  my  suit  pocket,  I 

hope . 

CC  .  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  my  20-'bag  dispenser  is  SCB  1.     Let  me  get  at 
them. 

LMP-EVA    I 've  got  mine  on. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.  Oh. 

LMP-EVA    This  probably  goes  under  the  seat,  doesn't  it? 

CDR-EVA    The  camera  -  where  the  devil  mine  is  -  where  the 
devil  mine  is.     Excuse  me.    Oh,  I  see  the  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA    I  put  it  there  so  I  wouldn't  forget  it. 

CDR-EVA    (La\;ighter)    Okay,  I  tell  you,  dexterity  is  the  key 
We  might  leave  -  Look  at  those  cover  gloves . 

LMP-EVA    I  guess  we  can  take  those  off.     I  don't  know 
whether  we  ought  to  or  not. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  leave  mine  on  for  a  while.     I  changed 
my  mind.     I  want  to  look  at  my  gloves  before  I 
take  them  off.    Okay,  where  are  we?    You  got  your 
camera,  obviously.     This  is  ray  camera.     I  got  the 
bag  dispenser  on  it.     It's  not  a  bad  day's  start. 
Bob,  is  the  ALSEP  working  good? 

GC  The  last  we  heard,  it  was  working  great,  guys. 

We'll  check  a^ain,  though. 


Tape  80A/20 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    You  got  yoior  camera.    Viy  camera  is  in  the 
floor  pan.     Cap  dispenser,  SCB  to  Gate  1.     Let  me 
get  that ,  Jack  • 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    You  haven't  been  on  the  Rover  yet.    It's  real  easy, 
but  it's  also  very  easy  to  kick  dust  all  over 
those  battery  covers,  so  don't  even  get  on  it  until 
I  put  those  bat  covers  down. 

LMP-EVA    Yes  -  Hey  -  I  guess  -  I  should  -  we  ought  to  press 
on  as  if  we're  going  to  station  1. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  you've  got  to  walk  -  you  got  to  walk  back  to 
the  LM  anyway  -  I  got  to  -  we  got  to  -  - 

CC  Roger.     Guys,  we  are  going  to  play  it  per  the 

checklist.     Jack  will  carry  the  things  back.  Gene 
will  get  the  thing  aligned.    We'll  go  out  to  the 
SEP  site.    And  then  we'll  press  on  from  there  down 
to  Steno.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  very  good. 

CC  And  right  now  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Stow  LMP  -  you  want  to  come  over  here  and 
I'll  stow  your  PLSS? 

CC  Go  ahead.    Never  mind. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    ffy  camera's  under  my  feet. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  you  can  turn  around.  Oh,  man,  what  have  you 
been  in?  Hallelujah. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  keep  the  hammer,  I'll  give  you  this.  Can  you 
reach  the  rammer?  It's  right  in  front  of  you.  On 
the  

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  -  I  haven't  got  that  cap  in,  yet  -  there  it 
is.     Okay,  the  caps  are  in.     If  we  ever  come  out 
here  a^ain,  I  want  to  get  yo\ar  hammer,  here  ... 


Tape  80A/21 


CC  ...  you  might  give  us  a  frame  count  on  Hotel. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob. 

CC  And  we're  going  to  hand  over  stations.    You  might 

get  a  dropout. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  under  the  seat  right  now.     I'm  -  Okay, 
rammer  -  I  got  the  hammer.    Turn  around.  I'll 
give  you  a  SCB  2 . 

LMP-EVA  Okay, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Now,  guess  who's  watching  to  see  how  these 
hooks  are  going  to  work? 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  man.     Like  a  charm,  so  far. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  except  your  doggone  harness  of  off,  too.  Jack 

LMP-EVA  Is  It? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  you've  got  to  undo  the  strap  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  -  let  me  get  at  it. 

LMP-EVA  You  got  to  loosen  that  strap  and  then  just  put 
her  underneath,  and  tighten  it  up  again. 

CDR-EVA    This  one  here? 

LMP-EVA    The  one  on  -  the  one  on  my  right.  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Now  -  let  me  turn  around  then.     I  got  to  get  on 
your  -  oh,  on  your  right.     Right  here. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  it  is  -  Yes.     That's  where  it  is  on  yours 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'd  like  to  make  sure  the  other  side  is  all 
right,  though. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  -  Yes,  it's  all  right.     Turn  around.  Let 
me  just  get  it  underneath. 


Tape  80A/22 

Oh  22  51  ih    LMP-EVA    I  got  it  so  tight  nov,  the  Rover  -  Okay,  now. 
CDR-EVA    I  got  it  on. 
LMP-EVA  Okay? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  now,  I'll  get  this  hook.     That  hook's  going 
to  be  a  piece  of  cake.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Keep  it  in,  and  it's  all  on  and  locked. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you  got  a  SCB  2.    You  got  the  rammer.  You 
got  a  cap  dispenser. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     You  can  secure  SCB  1.     Doesn't  this  go  under 
your  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Not  yet,  I  don't  think.     I  think  it  stays  there. 

CDR-EVA  This  does.  No   

LMP-EVA  That  does.    Yes.    That  goes  lander  the  seat. 

CDR-EVA  And  this  goes  here. 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  the  long  can's  going  under  my  seat. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA  They  got  a  handover,  I  think. 

CC  Handover's  complete,  guys. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  ***  which  way  it  unlocks,  though. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  you  can  pull  it  off. 

LMP-EVA  It's  unlocked. 

CDR-EVA  It's  unlocked.    There  it  is.     It's  usually  stiff. 
Okay.    For  once,  I  have  my  camera  off. 


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CDR-EVA    Did  you  get  the  heat-flow  pictures,  by  the  way? 

LMP-EVA    I  got  most  of  them.    Not  all  of  them.    They  revised 
the  whole  camera. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  is  it  going  to  hurt  to  leave  the  UHT  in 
the  heat-flow  electronics? 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute.     I  ought  to  get  that,  I  guess. 

LMP-EVA    One  -  tall. 

CDR-EVA    Here,  let  me  lean  down. 

LMP-EVA    Two,  and  the  hook's  still  hooked.     Check  for  sure. 
Those  hooks  weren't  designed  for  new  bags. 

CC  Okay,  Jack   

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  think  that  will  ride  all  right. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  They  don't  want  us  there.     If  you  -  if  one  of  you 

guys  can  get  to  it  and  pull  it  out. 


CDR-EVA  I'll  get  it  right  now. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA  Watch  the  alignment,  as  you  said, 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  sort  of  thought  you  might  like  it  out  of 

there.     Let's  stay  away  so  I  don't  get  a  cable  and 
I  don't  get  dust  in  the  mirror.     The  alignment  If, 
still  good. 


Oh  22  53  hQ    CC  Okay. 


LMP-EVA    Now,  if  I  can  get  it  out.    Okay,  I'm  going  back  to 
the  LM. 


CDR-EVA 


Okay,  Bob,  the  alignment's  good  on  the  heat  flow,  and 
I've  got  the  UHT  out.    Jack,  do  you  need  this? 


Tape  8OA/2U 


LMP-EVA    You  "better  leave  -  save  it.     Save  it. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  leave  it  right  here  by  the  ALSEP. 

LMP-EVA    Save  it.  Careful. 

CDR-EVA    Jeeminy,  I  just  threw  it  right  here  in  this  little  - 
little  ditch. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  right.    Okay,  the  other  UHT  is  by  the  ALSEP. 

We  probably  ought  to  have  it  with  us,  Geno.  For 
the  sampler. 

CC  Have  you  got  one  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Well,  you've  got  one   

CC   UHT  sampler? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    That's  all  right.    Keep  it  on  the  ... 

CC  Okay,  we  gather  you're  on  the  way  back  to  the  LM 

with  the  core  stems  there,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay. 

Ok  22  5h  hk    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  take  the  TV  away  from  you 

and  get  these  battery  covers  squared  away  before 
I  put  the  tongs  and  the  camera  on. 

Ok  22  ^k  53    CC  Okay,  Geno,  and  you  guys  have  the  gnomon  in  the 

little  quiver,  right? 

OU  22  55  00    CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     The  temperatures  on  the  batteries  are 

96  and  110. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CDR-EVA  Can  I  close  the  covers? 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA  Can  I  close  the  covers? 

CC  Roger;  Roger. 


Tape  8OA/25 


CDR-EVA  Hey,  you're  turning  our  voice  around.  Bob. 

CC  No,  I  said   

CDR-EVA  We're  getting  a  repeat. 

CC  I  said,  "Close  the  covers,  please." 

CDR-EVA    That's  right.     I  heard  what  you  said,  but  you're 
turning  our  voice  around. 

LMP-EVA    (Singing)     I  was  strolling  on  the  Moon  one  day  - 

LMP/CDR        in  the  merry,  merry  month  of  December  - 

EVA 

CDR-EVA    No,  May. 
LMP-EVA  May. 

CDR-EVA    May's  the  month  this  year. 
LMP-EVA    May  -  that's  right. 
CDR-EVA    May  is  the  year,  the  month. 

LMP-EVA     (Singing)    When  much  to  my  surprise ,  a  pair  of 
bonny  eyes  -  be-doop-doo-doo  -  - 

CC  Sorry  about  that,  guys,  but  today  may  be  December. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  battery  cover   

LMP-EVA    (Humming)    Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dee-da-dee  -  - 

OI+  22  56  IT    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  battery  covers  are  closed.  I'm 

ready  to  go  MODE  switch  1.     I  guess  I'll  just  wave 
goodby.    You  look  pretty  clean,  so  I  won't  touch 
you. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you, 

ok  22  56  36    CDR-EVA    Oh,  man.     It's  even  hard  to  move  you  counterclock- 
wise.   Here  we  go.     Counterclockwise,  facing  aft. 
Okay,  I'm  going  to  go  MODE  switch  number  1.  Okay, 
we're  MODE  switch  number  1   


Tape  8OA/26 


Oh  22  56  56    CC  Roger.    We  can  confirm  that. 

CDR-EVA    and  you  want  me  to  leave  those  two  blankets 

open  100  percent,  right? 

CC  Roger,    That's  affirm. 

CDR-EVA    Okay ,  now  I  got  -  now  I  got  to  mount  ray  camera  and 
tether  my  tongs.    Boy,  Jack,  I  can  bare  -  I  can't 
see  you  at  all.     Looking  into  the  east  is  terrible. 
All  I  can  tell  you  is  that  there's  a  LM  there. 

ok  22  57  2k    CDR-EVA    Okay,  mount  camera,  tether  tongs.     See  if  my 

camera's  going  to  work.    Bob,  I 'm  on  -  on  Bravo  - 
mag  Bravo  and  frame  count  19. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that,  Gene. 

oil  22  57  50    CDR-EVA    And  for  EMU  status,  I  can  give  you  about  36  percent, 

no  flags,  3.85,  and  I'm  on  -  I'm  still  INTERMEDIATE 
cooling. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  inventory.     Camera,  tongs,  gnomon.     Okay,  I'm 
ready  to  get  on.     Ready  to  get  on. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you  want  us  to  take  the  -  Ouch!    That  rock 
by  your  front  porch  is  really  a  major  nuisance. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  doggone  it. 
LMP-EVA    What's  the  problem? 

CDR-EVA    Oh!     Every  time  I  get  on,  I  get  dust  around.  I 
still  haven't  learned  how  to  get  on  yet.  You'd 
think  after  three  times,  I'd  know  better.     I  know 
better,  but  it's  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I've  got  the  transmitter.     I'm  heading  west  - 
or  east.     (Laughter)     Heading  east.     Sorry  about 
that.  (Humming) 

Ok  22  59  11    CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  PRIMARY.    Okay,  you  want  a  nav  initialiiie 

here,  huh,  Houston? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 


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CDR-EVA    By  the  way.  Bob,  station  6  is  pretty  obvious  up  on 
the  hill.    It's  fairly  high  up.    I  don't  know  if 
we'll  get  to  drive  up  there  or  not. 

CC  Okay.     I  think  you  csin  see  the  boulder  and  that's 

how  you  can  tell,  right? 

GC  Okay.     Thinking  you  can  see  the  boulder  and  that's 

how  you  caji  tell,  right? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    And  the  crater.    A  shame  not  to  -  Well,  maybe 
that's  the  wrong  one.    I'll  have  to  check  the  map. 
A  shanie  not  to  go  to  station  1.    Sure  is  a  shame. 
Why  don't  you  consider  station  1  as  a  possibility? 
Okay,  Bob,  let  me  give  you  some  numbers. 

CC  We're  ready. 

ok  23  00  13    CDR-EVA    Sun  shadow  is  zero.    I  am  rolled  right  k  degrees. 

I  am  pitch  zero.     I  can't  be  rolled  right  h  degrees. 
That  indicator  can't  be  right.     I  question  that. 
If  the  roll  indicator's  right,  I  might  be  rolled 
left  a  couple  of  degrees . 

OU  23  00  5^    CDR-EVA    Are  you  happy  with  that.  Bob?     I'm  -  roll  indicator 

is  indicating  -  make  it  3  degrees  right  -  3  degrees 
right. 

oh  23  01  02    CC  Okay,  and  I  copy  -  Okay,  torque  to  279  will  be  the 

heading  -  279. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

Oh  23  01  32    CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  heading  when  I  put  the  NAV  POWER  breaker 

IN,  Bob,  was  23  -  23h. 

oh  23  01  ho    CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.    We'll  torque  that  to  279- 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  waiting  for  my  minute  and  a  half  here. 

CC  Roger  that. 

Oh  23  02  19    LMP-EVA    By  the  way.  Bob,  LMP  is  at  39  percent,  3.88,  and 

no  flags ,  no  tones . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Jack. 


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LMF-EVA    I'm  at  the  SEP  site,  and  I  found  a  place  I  think 
we  can  lay  out  a  pretty  good  grid. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  and  when  you  lay  it  dovn  there,  we 

want  to  put  it  down  with  the  gnomon  side,  the  side 
you're  going  to  face,  you  want  to  put  that  facing 
away  from  the  Sun.    We  found  out  a  thermal  constraint 
this  evening.  Just  as  the  EVA  started. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Away  from  the  Sun.    Gnomon  -  you  want  the 
gnonon  side  or  corner? 

CC  The  gnomon  side  away  from  the  Sun.    That's  those  - 

the  side  with  the  solar  panel  has  to  be  away  from 
the  Sun.    The  sides  with  the  solar  panel  ...  to  be 
in  the  shade. 

LMP-EVA  Okay, 

Ok  23  03  31    CDR-EVA    Bob,  everything's  working  fine  so  far.  She's 

zeroed  ai^d  I'm  torqued.    And  I'm  ready  to  press 
on.    RESET  is  back  OFF.     Okay,  Jack,  here  I  come. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     You  see  me? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  facing  the  other  way. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you  -  just  about  all  you  can  see  in 
that  direction  is  the  LM.     Boy,  that's  tough 
driving  into  the  Sun! 

LMP-EVA    Go  right  to  the  LM,  and  then  a  little  bit  to  your 
left,  to  the  left  of  the  LM. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I've  got  to  go  to  the  LM  and  give  them  a 
reading  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    You  get  that  -  that  shadow  up  there  and  you're 
all  right. 


CDR-EVA 


Say  again.  Bob? 


Tape  80A/29 


CC  That's  affirmative.    We  want  the  range  and  bearing 

at  the  LM.    I'm  glad  you.  remembered. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir,  I'll  give  it  to  you.     I  even  got  -  Oh, 
oh,  don't  get  in  there.    Whoo!     I  even  got  the 
low  gain  working  for  you.     I  don't  know  if  you're 
using  it. 

CC  I  think  we're  using  the  LM  right  now. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  that  LM  is  pretty.  Whoo! 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  everything  I've  seen  so  far  indicates  that 

the  so-called  subfloor  boulders,  if  we  have  gotten 
that  deep,  are  this  gabbro.    I'm  out  here  at  the 
SEP  site,  and  the  large  blocks  are  still  the 
plagioclase  pyroxene  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  let  me  give  them  a  range.     I'll  be  on  my  way 
out . 

LMP-EVA    Go  ahead. 

ok  23  05  ll5    CDR-EVA    Okay,  bearing  292  ,  0.2,  and  0.2.     I'm  standing  right 

in  front  of  the  MESA. 

CC  Okay.    Beautiful,  Geno.    Thank  you. 

Ol+  23  06  00    CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  coming.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    The  zap  pits  are  nice  white  halos ,  although,  for 
the  most  part,  the  rock's  too  coarse  to  show  them 
very  well.    Some  of  the  larger  ones  have  white 
halos.    We  may  not  be  down  to  the  subfloor,  but  - 
it's  hard  to  say. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  making  8  to  10  kilometers,  and  I'm  barely 
moving . 

CDR-EVA    Where 've  you  got  the  SEP,  Jack? 
LMP-EVA    Right  out  over  there. 

CDR-SVA    Okay,  let  me  give  them  a  bearing,  distance,  and 

range,  and  some  numbers  here.     Meet  you  over  there. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay. 


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CDR-EVA    Oh ! 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  did  see  a  dense  gray  rock  that's  different 
than  the  others  on  my  traverse  out  here.  We'll 
try  to  find  some  of  that,  too. 

Olt  23  07  12    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Boh,  I'm  reading  278,  003,  and  003  at  the 

SEP  site. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that,  Geno.    And  how  about  giving  me 

amp-hours  and  batteries  Just  as  long  as  you're 
there? 

0^4  23  07  30    CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir,  it's  coming  at  you.    Amp-hours  are  112 

and  110;  batteries  are  9-92  and  about  1  - 
about  112. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  Motors  are  all  off  scale  low. 

CC  Yes,  okay  thank  you. 

Olt  23  07  5k    CDR-EVA  NAV  is  going  to  RESET. 

GO  Say  again  there.  Gene.     You're  going  to  go  to  RESET, 

right? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  going  to  RESET. 

olt  23  08  Ok    CC  Okay.    Jack,  you  can  be  getting  on.     You  won't 

need  a  bomb,  and  I  guess  you  won't  need  the  LMP 
camera  unless  you  want  it.    We'll  be  deploying  the 
bomb  at  Steno, 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    I  thought  we  were  playing  it  by  the 
checklist,  Geno.    Here's  the  bomb. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  give  it  to  me. 

LMP-EVA    The  charge. 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  it. 

CC  Yes,  it  just  happens  that  the  station  is  at  the 

place  we're  going  to  deploy  the  charge. 


Tape  80A/31 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  well,  we  got  it  off. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Do  you  know  which  aide  of  Steno  he  wants  us 
to  go ,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Not  yet. 

CC  Yes.    We're  going  -  Okay,  let  me  fill  you  in  on 

the  plan,  guys.    We're  going  to  go  to  the  west 
side  of  Steno,  which  is  where  you  would  have  driven 
by  anyway,  and  the  stop  is  -  will  be  at  the  3^0/1.2, 
which  is  where  you've  got  the  little  Delta  for 
EP  6,  in  your  checklist.    And  we  will  plan  on 
spending  about  30  minutes  there  sampling  primarily 
boulders . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Geno,  west  side  of  Steno  there. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    I  got  it  here.    Okay  -  - 

LMP-EVA    You  got  a  good  feeling  on  how  to  head  out  of  here? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  want  to  get  around  the  back  side  -  now  that 
I'm  down  there,  on  the  back  side  of  Trident,  and 
make  sure  that  that's  what  I'm  looking  at,  is 
Trident  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  let  me  try  to  get  on  this  thing. 

CC  Okay.    And,  IT,  Just  to  fill  you  in  a  little  bit 

more  here.    We're  looking  at  a  6  plus  i+5  EVA. 
We've  given  you  15  minutes  to  drive  to  station  1; 
30  minutes  at  station  1;  and  15  minutes  to  drive 
back  to  the  SEP,  and  then  deploying  the  SEP  for 
22  minutes .    And  then  a  iiO-minute  closeout  at 
6  plus  1*5. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  sorry.  Bob.    After  30  minutes  at  station  1, 
,  what  did  you  say? 

CC  Okay.    Then  we're  going  to  drive  back.    There's  a 

15-mlnute  return  to  the  SEP  site,  and  then  22  min- 
utes at  the  SEP  site  to  deploy  the  SEP,  and  then 
return  to  the  LM  in  1*5  minutes  for  the  closeout. 


CDR-EVA    Okay.  Understand. 


Tape  80A/32 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  strapped  in? 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we've  got  to  start  getting  on  this  Rover 
facing  90  degrees  to  the  seats,  I  think. 

LMP-EVA    I  did  the  same  thing. 

CDR-EVA    Right  through  d\ist? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we  both  did.     I  tried  to  knock  it  all  off  w 
feet. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     That's  impossible.     Okay,  Jack.     Let's  see 
if  we  can't  get  around  -  around  Trident  East  over 
here . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  don't  -  I  wish  I  didn't  have  this  charge. 
If  they  played  it  by  the  checklist  -  I  wasn't 
paying  attention.  Okay   

0^  23  11  02    CDR-EVA    We're  on  the  move.  Bob. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  this  is  Trident,  isn't  it?    So  we're  starting 
out  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     It's  got  to  be. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    So,  you're  starting  out  on  the  -  You  really 
want  to  hit  about  29  -  - 

CDR-EVA    No,  no,  no. 

LMP-EVA    No,  wait  a  minute.    Where  are  we? 
CDR-EVA    We  want  to  go  southeast. 
LMP-EVA  l8l   

CC  17,  we'll  start  out  on  the  same  general  traverse 

that  you've  been  on.     It's  just  that  we'll  stop 
it  sooner. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we  understand. 
CC  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    We're  just  getting  our  bearings.  Bob. 

CDR-EVA    This  has  got  to  be  Trident  East,  right,  right  here. 
Jack.    See  that?    That's  got  to  be  Trident  East, 
That's  the  big  one. 

LMP-EVA    On  the  right  or  the  left? 

CDR-EVA    On  the  right, 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    And  we  -  and  Poppy  -  and  was  Just  over  about 
where  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Watch  your  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  Just  want  to  get  our  bearings  here.  You 
can't  look  to  the  east. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I've  got  to  -  That's  an  awful  big  depression 
over  there,  isn't  it?    Says  go  along  this  way. 

CDREVA  Boy,  it  sure  is.  Wheel 

LMP-EVA  Watch  it.     Ho  -  bo  -  ho  hold  it,  held  it,  hold  it! 

CDR-EVA  Got  it ,  got  it ,  got  it  . . . 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  I  tell  you  I've  got  to  get  out  east. 

CDR-EVA  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA  Gene,  I  think  -  I'm  going  to  head  about  120  out 
of  here. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  a  - 

LMP-EVA    You've  got  another  hole  on  your  right  here, 
CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    Whoa,  whoa.     I'm  not  sure  what's  wrong.  Why 
don't  you  go  left  there? 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 


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LMP-EVA    Go  left  around  this  thing. 

CC  And,  17;  Houston.     For  your  advice,  we're  trying  to 

use  the  low  gain  antenna  on  this  traverse  also. 
Might  try  and  he  good  guys  and  turn  it  for  us  when 
you  have  to. 

Oh  23  13  05    LMP-EVA    Okay.  Bob. 

CC  That's  general  reminder  number  1. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  I  think  we  need  to  head  south. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    We've  got  to  go  out  here  southeast.  What's 

that  big  map  look  like  in  relation  to  Bare  Mountain 
to  you? 

LMP-EVA    You  mean  the  -I'm  not  sure  I  can  get  to  it.  Okay. 
Okay,  I  won't  -  - 

CDR-EVA    It  calls  for  II6  at  0.62  -  - 

LMP-EVA    ...  near  the  SEP.     I  ended  up  with  this  charge  in 
my  hand.    There's  a  big  -  What  are  you  headed  now, 
south  pretty  much? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA    I  think  you're  getting  -  That  must  be  station  - 
that  must  be  Emory  over  there.    See  with  all  the 
blocks  in  the  wall? 


CDR-EVA    Where  you  looking?    Which  way? 
LMP-EVA    Southeast.    Way  over  there. 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That  may  very  well  go  -  this  is  very  easily  Steno 
right  over  here.    Let's  -  let's  see,  we're  between 
the  two  big  ones  -  that  would  be   

CDR-EVA    That  would  be  Powell. 

LMP-EVA    That  would  be  Powell  on  the  right . 


Tape  80A/35 


CDR-EVA    You  think? 

LMP-EVA    Certainly  doesn't  look  like  th  LNA  yet. 
CDR-EVA    No,  it  sure  doesn't. 

CC  How  about  a  range  and  beaxing,  guys,  I  think  we  can 

help  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  330,  0.3- 

CC  Okay,  it  sounds  like  you're  probably  just  driving 

by  the  East  Trident  or  Trident  3. 

oh  23  ih  1+5    LMP-EVA    You  think  all  that  right  there  is  Trident? 

CDR-EVA    Vty  gosh,  if  it  is,  that's  incredible.    I  -  I  - 
That's  hard  to  believe. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  there  -  you're  going  to  go  in  a  hole  with 
your  right  -  No  problem. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  see  the  lip  too  well  because  of  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Well,  if  that's  Trident  - 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  if  you  -  do  you  have  yoixr  camera 

on  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Boy ,  I  wish  . . . 

CC  -  -  If  so,  could  you  give  me  a  frame  count  some 

time? 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  got  my  hands  full  with  this  charge. 

CC  Oh,  okay,  forgot  about  that  one.     Sorry  about  that. 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  1*5. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  if  that's  Trident,  whoo! 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  you  know  that  is  -  don't  you  suppose  that's 
Trident? 


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LMP-EVA  Well,  it  sure  looks  like  it,  doesn't  it? 
CDR-EVA  Yes .  We  were  quite  a  ways  from  Trident . 
LMP-EVA    I  bet  you  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    If  that's  true,  we're  at  3h2.h.    That's  about  right; 
we're  half  a  mile  -  that's  about  right.    Boy,  what 
I  was  looking  at  Trident  isn't  nearly  that  -  any 
where  near  that  big. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  if  that's  true,  then  we  want  to  go  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 


I,MP-EVA  we  want  to  go  I8I. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir,  we're  all  right  now.    That's  got  to  be 
Trident.    WJt  we  were  looking  at  before  -  I've 
got  to  stop  and  see  what  that  is.    I've  got  to 
look  at  those  maps  when  we  get  in. 

Oh  23  16  12    LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  a  triplet  all  right,  with  some  septar 

between.  Well,  wish  I  could  take  pictures.  Take 
a  few,  but  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  let  me  get  a  few  here. 

LMP-EVA    No.    You  keep  pressing.    We  can  get  them  coming 
back. 


LMP-EVA    Take  a  few,  but  it's  not  continuous.    Nfy  hands  are 
giving  out.     I  wish  I  hadn't  said  follow  the  check- 
list.   Okay,  we're  at  0.5  and  3U6.    And  the  surface 
has  not  really  changed  except  slightly  more  hum- 
mocky  and  rolling,  because  of  a  larger  number  of 
irregular  depressions,  or  craters.     The  -  boom!  - 
the  rocks  at  first  glance  from  the  Rover  look  very 
much  like  what  we  had  around  the  LM,    That's  the 
big  ones . 

Oh  23  17  21    CC  And,  17,  you  might  be  -  - 


LMP-EVA    There  are  occasional  -  - 


CG 


  Jack,  you  might  be  expecting  WATER  flag  and  a 

tone  in  a  couple  of  minutes,  to  go  to  AUX. 


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LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And  CDE  -will  te  about  5  minutes  after  that. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  stopped  here  in  a  minute.  Jack  -  as  scon 
as  I  get  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  think  maybe  that  might  be  Steno  over 
there  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  think  we're  too  far  off. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  there's  Toy  -  I've  got  to  go  to  AUX. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-EVA    I  hope  so. 

oh  23  18  09    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston,  do  you  see  me  in  AUX? 

CC  Stajid  by.    Roger.    We  see  you  in  AUX. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  hit  some  of  these  broadside.  Jack, 
and  then  we  won't  get  any  roll  angle. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  how  far  have  you  come? 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  to  go  O.T  -  about  another  O.T  mi  - 

kilometers.     I  may  be  coming  up  on  the  edge  of  it. 
I  don't  know,  I  may  -  I'm  on  the  right  bearing. 
Yes.    We're  all  right.    Steno  has  got  a  dimple  on 
the  north.     Boy,  this  is  a  heck  of  a  way  to  start 
out  our  navigation  because  it's  into  the  cross -Sun 
here  -  not  cross-sun  -  but  Sun.     Kow,  that's  got  to 
be  Powell,  wouldn't  you  say? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.     Must  be. 

CDR-EVA  Must  be. 

LMP-EVA  Listen,  you   

CDR-EVA  Then  that's  Steno  with  eill  the  blocks  in  it. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  an  I  glad  we  didn't  laxid  out  here!  Whew! 


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CDR-EVA  See  this  high  point  up  here  coming  ahead? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  That  should  give  us  our  bearings,  I  hope. 

LMP-EVA  I  can't  hold  that  bomb  any  longer. 

CDR-EVA  What  are  you  going  to  do  with  it? 

LMP-EVA  I'm  going  to  drop  it  at  my  feet. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  it's  there. 

CDR-EVA  Keep  it  between  your  feet. 

LMP-EVA  It  will.    My  hands  aren't  going  to  be  any  good  for 
sampling. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  Powell,  huh? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

Ok  23  19  53    LMP-EVA    Okay,  if  that's  Powell.     Quite  a  ways  over  there, 

but  I  think  the  thing  to  do  is  get  up  on  that 
little  ridge  there. 

Ok  23  20  03    CDR-EVA    I  think  we  may  end  up  looking  right  into  Steno 

when  we  get  up  there.    Bob,  we're  3U2.9. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CC  3.0  and  1   

CDR-EVA    Are  you  reading  the  low  gain,  by  the  way? 

CC  Yes.     Roger.     Beautiful.     3^0  and  1.2  is  what  we 

expect  the  station  to  be. 

CC  And  it  shotild  be  up  on  the  top  of  a  little  bit  of 

a  rise.    That  you  see  coming  up  there.     Almost  to 
that  rise.    You  ought  to  be  in  the  vicinity  of  some 
very  large  boulders. 


Tape  80 A/ 39 


CDR-EVA    Hoiiston,  there's  a  -  there  are  certainly  a  lot  of 

big  boulders  -  Whoops !    Let  me  take  a  look  into  the 
Sun  here .     That  doesn ' t  look  what  I  thought  Steno 
looked  like.    There's  no  dip  there.     1.2  he  said. 
All  right.    This  is  it  over  here,  though,  I  guess. 

CC  Yes,  Steno  ought  to  be  at  -  right  at  your  9  o'clock 

there.  Gene. 

CBR-EVA    At  my  9  o'clock.  Yes. 

CC  Either  that  or  your  3  o'clock,     I  forgot  which  one 

it  is . 

LMP-EVA    How  do  you  know  where  we  are? 

CDR-EVA    I  think  you're  probably  right,  although  it  doesn't 
impresss  me  as  what  I  saw  in  the  LNA.     How  much 
time  have  we  got  to  drive  now.  Bob? 

CC  Okay,  stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  that's  probably  Emory  up  there. 
LMP-EVA    That's  Steno,  I  guess. 

CC  Yes,  yes,  Steno  -  Gene  and  Jack,  we'd  like  you  to  - 

If  you're  in  the  vicinity,  we  think  you're  just 
about  there.    We  were  planning  on  you  leaving  the 
SEP  and  getting  to  this  place  at  about  h  plus  58 
and  we're  showing  about  5  plus  00  right  now  so 
you're  right  on  time.    And  if  you're  at  3^0  and 
1.2  in  that  vicinity,  you  must  be  at  the  station 
or  very  close  to  it  where  you  can  see.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it  doesn't  look  real  familiar.  Bob,  as  far 
as  Steno 's  concerned. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  -  I  think  they  can  locate  us  if  we 
work  that  block  field  right  there. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  my  water. 

CC  Okay,  on  the  map  we're  showing.  Jack,  that  you're 

probably  looking  at,  you're  seeing  that  there's  a 
couple  of  bo\alders  at  -  just  above  -  at  about  the  - 
With  north  being  12  o ' clock ,  there  are  a  couple  of 
boulders  at  about  the  09:30  position  on  Steno. 


Tape  80A/kO 


And  then  there's  a  couple  of  more  at  about  the 
9  o'clock  position  on  Steno.    And  we're  putting 
the  station  right  in  the  midst  of  all  those 
houlders.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  Bob,  I  don't  know.    It's  hard  -  hard  to 

follow  that  that's  where  we  are.     I'm  not  sure. 
It  doesn't  look  like  what  I  expected  Steno  to 
look  like  -  - 


LMP-EVA    No,  me  neither. 


CC  Okay.    What's  the  range  and  hearing  one  more  time? 

Oh  23  23  03    CDR-EVA    Okay,  3^6;  1.1.    I  think  it  would  almost  be  worth  - 

I  bet  that's  Emory  up  on  that  hill.    It's  got  to  be. 

LMP  Yes. 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  well,  let's  -  - 


LMP-EVA    We  better  park  in  this  boulder  field  here. 
CDR-EVA    ...  boulder  field. 

LMP-EVA    . . .    Wish  we  could  have  gotten  near  one  of  the 

big  ones,  but  let's  do  it.  We're  going  to  run  out 
of  time . 


CDR-EVA    Yes , 


CC  That's  affirmative,  guys   

CDR-EVA    , . .  big  one  anyway. 
LMP-EVA    Okay.    You  want  me  -  - 


CC    There's  no  point  in  deviating  around  and 

spending  15  minutes  trying  to  get  a  particular 
spot  or  down  to  a  bigger  boulder.     You  must  be  in 
the  near  vicinity.    If  you're  really  worried 
about  it,  I  guess  you  might  drive  a  little  bit  to 
the  east  to  the  rim  of  the   

LMP-EVA    Okay.    We  got  -  - 


Tape  8OA/UI 


CC  -  -  crater,  unless  you're  there.     Over.  Your 

judgment . 

LMP-EVA    No,  we're  okay.    We  got  a  good  place. 
CC  All  right. 

OI+  23  2h  02    CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  parked  -  I'm  parked  I80. 

CC  Roger.    Stand  by  on  that  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    You,  want  us  to  get  off?    What  do  you  mean? 

CC  Okay.  No   

CDR-EVA    What  heading? 

CC  -  -  Okay.     I  was  just  wondering  about  where  you 

were  going  to  park.     Go  ahead  and  park  I80.  There 
was  a  question  on  whether  they  wanted  us  to  park  into 
the  Sun,  but  don't  worry. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  heading   

CC  180  is  a  good  heading. 

Ok  23  2h  27    CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  headed  -  I'm  headed  -  I'm  headed  l82,  3^+6, 

1.2,  1.1,  110,  108,  100,  and  II8,  and  off  scale 
low  on  all  of  the  bo  -  motors . 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  can  we  deploy  -  Okay.     You  want  this  charge 
deployed  here? 

CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  I'll  deploy  it  now. 

CC  You  can  deploy  it  right  now.     That's  good. 

Qit  23  25  25    LMP-EVA  Okay,  the  centers  [?]  are  still  on,  thank  goodness. 

CC  Beautiful.    We'll  give  you  the  Taper  of  the  Year 

award. 


Tape  8OA/U2 


LMP-EVA    Boy,  you're  going  to  have  to  give  me  the  Dunce  of 
the  Year  Award  after  this. 

CDR-EVA    Pan  1 ,  ...  two  - 
Ok  23  25  hh    CDR-EVA    MARK,  SAFE. 

CDR-EVA    Pan  3  - 
Oil  23  23  hj    CDR-EVA    MARK,  SAFE. 

LMP-EVA    That  will  he  in  the  pans,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob ,  you  got  MODE  ...   

CC         _    • • •  confirm  that  is  EP-6 ,  right? 

CC  17,  Houston.     Do  you  read? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh;  we're  ahout  I5  meters  from  a  20-meter 

hlocky  rimmed  crater.     It's  ahout  3  -  3  to  i+  meters 
deep.    All  the  blocks  on  the  rim  look  like  the 
pyroxene,  plagioclase  gabhro  -  the  vesicular 
rocks  seen  at  the  LM.    At  least  all  that  I've 
seen  so  far. 

CC  Okay.     I  copied  that,  Jack.    And  is  this  crater  to 

the  east  or  west? 

Oil  23  27  01    LMP-EVA    It's  to  the  northwest  of  the  Rover. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    The  vesicu  -  visicle  popula  -  the  vesicle  popula- 
tion varies  from  about  a  2  milli  -  a  millimeter  to 
1  centimeter-     It  forms  about  15  percent  of  the  rock 
10  to  15.    And  I've  given  you  grain  size  and  - 
for  the  rocks  near  the  LM  and  that  goes  well  for 
this  one. 


CC 


Okay,  I  copy  that.  Jack.    Very  good. 


Tape  80A/it3 


LMP-EVA    There  is  -  the  parting  that  I  mentioned,  still  of 
somewhat  unknown  origin,  and  we'll  try  and  get  a 
sample  along  a  parting  plane.     It's  clearly  evident 
in  one  of  the  bigger  blocks. 

CDR-LM     Hey,  Boh,  just  as  we  stopped  the  Rover,  I  went  on 

AUX  water.  Do  you  want  me  to  turn  my  primary  water 
off  -  I  don't  have  to,  do  I? 

CC  No,  no,  no  need  to. 

CDR-EVA    That's  what  I  figured.    Just  wanted  to  cover  all 
hets.     Okay,  Jack.     I  think,  I've  got  my  house- 
keeping done. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Hey,  get  your  hammer.    We're  going  to  need 
it. 

CDR-EVA    I've  been  carrying  it  all  day,  it's  about  time  I 
used  it.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  you're  going  to  want  a  core  at  this  site? 

CC  Roger.    We'd  like  to  get  -  number  1  priority 

will  be  some  black  samples,  including  any  dirt 
that  was  on  the  blocks,  if  there  is  such.     And  then 
the  second  priority  is  a  rake  soil  sample;  the 
third  priority  is  a  double  core.     Then,  also  in 
there,  the  pans,  of  coixrse,  and  other  documented 
samples.    But  the  double  core  is  there  although 
it  is  third  priority. 

CDr-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  do  you  think  -  Got  you  gnomon,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I've  got  my  gnomon,  and  I've  got  to  give  a 
TGE.    When  you  said,  bring  a  hammer,  I  came  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  sorry. 

CDR-EVA    No,  no  problem. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  sho\ildn't  have  - 


Tape  QOA/kk 


CDR-EVA    The  two  go  hand-in-hand.     Nothing  disrupts  your 

thought  patterns  more  than  somebody  saying  something. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  listen,  this  is  my  first  geology  stop.  I 

guess  I'm  entitled  to  do  that;  Boh,  you  ready  for 
a  mark? 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

Ok  23  29  37    LMP-EVA    MASK  it.    The  light's  flashing. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  got  one  picked  out? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  let's  hit  this  -  see  if  we  can  work  on  that 
one,  it's  at  the  edge,  but  it's  got  -  we  can  chip 
at  the  parting  plane.    And  that's  one  of  the  things 
that's  come  up  that  I  think  is  of  interest  that 
we've  got  to  figure  out  why  they  have  that  foliation 
in  them. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  that  rock  is  one  of  the  more  vesicular  ones 
I've  seen  aro\ind. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  they're  all  about  that.  Gene.    They're  too  - 
they're  either  that  or  mixed  with  that  variety.  In 
the  same  boulder,  you'll  see  a  -  see  a  nonvesicular  - 
a  relatively  nonvesicular.     Okay,  that's  the   

CDR-EVA  Watch  your  shadow. 

LMP-EVA    that's  the  down-Sun.     Okay,  right  into  the  Sun. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Right  at  that  overlapping  fracture,  huh? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  get  where  I  can  maybe  save  the  rock.  If 
you  can  hook  your  - 


Tape  8OA/U5 


CDR-EVA    That's  what  I'm  going  to  do.    I'm  going  to  try 
and  get  it  right  -  right  up  on  top  is  where  I'd 
like  to  - 

LMP-EVA    If  you  hit  it  -  if  you  hit  it  on  the  right  side, 

it'll  go  this  way,  maybe.    There  you  go.     Good  man. 

CDR-EVA    Piece  right  there. 

LMP-EVA    I  can  get  another  one,  too.    Try  another  one;  don't 
lose  that  one. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  that  one  for  you. 

LMP-EVA    I  can  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Got  it?    Vlhoops .     Can  you  keep  it  in  sight  here  for 
a  minute?    Is  that  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Go  ahead.    Try  hitting  -  There  you  go.  Can 

you  use  the  other  end  against  the  right  side  of  the 
Rock? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  pressing. 
LMP-EVA  Oh. 
CDR-EVA    It's  coming. 
LMP-EVA    That's  all  right. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  that  one,  wait  a  minute. 
LMP-EVA    Be  careful  down  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    The  whole  thing  is  going  to  fracture  off  here,  in 
a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    That's  why  - 

CDR-EVA    Trying . 

LMP-EVA    It's  trying  to  fall.    Don't  wear  your  hand  out. 
That ' s  good ,  Gene . 


Tape  Q0A/h6 


CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute.    Let  me  give  one  more  whack.  The 

whole  thing  is  -No,  that's  too  tight.     Let  me  get 
that  other  piece  - 

Olt  23  32  21    LMP-EVA    Okay.    Bag  U76  is  the  rock  sample  with  a  little  bit 

of  the  soil  near  it  -  with  a  chip  -  chip  off  the 
rock,  and  it's  the  -  Watch  it.  Gene. 

CDR-EV.A.    Here's  your  other  chip.    If  I  go  down  there,  that 
thing  is  about  15  feet  deep. 

LMP-EVA    Right.    Got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Now,  do  you  think  you  can  chip  off  the  other  side 
of  that  plane,  up  on  the  edge? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Then  we'll  get  the  soil,  and  maybe  just  a  small 
rock,  one  nonchipped. 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  tell  you  -  my  hands  from  that  drill   

LMP-EVA  Yes,  I'm  sure  they  are. 

CDR-EVA    Really  know  I've  been  out  here  today. 

LMP-EVA  kl6.  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  It's  from  the  southeast  -  southeast  side  of  the 
parting  plane  - 

CDR-EVA    There  it  is  -  a  whole  big  slab,  right  there. 
LMP-EVA    Okay,  very  good, 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  look  at  those  dark  minerals  in  there.  Are 
those  dark  black? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  they  may  be  ilmenite  or  fresh  pyroxene.  We'll 
look  at  it.     Gives  the  impression  of  pyroxene. 


Tape  80A/ltT 


CDR-EVA  Okay,  you  wa.i:.t  my  bag?  I  tell  you,  if  you  work  on 
any  kind  of  slope,  like  this  little  crater  -  Okay, 
I'm  going  to  leave  it  open  for  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    While  we  get  that  one. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  have  to  -    you're  going  to  have  to  use 
yoTJir  tongs  on  that  one ,  I  think . 

CDR-EVAOkay.     I  got  it. 

CC  And,  IT,  a  reminder  to  factor  into  your  thinking, 

this  is  only  a  30-minute  stop,  and  there's  about 
20  minutes  remaining. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.    But  we  got  to  sample  something. 

CDR-EVA    Here's  a  big  one.     Get  him  the  bag  number,  too. 

Qit  23  3h  27    LMP-EVA    Bag  h^k.    Okay,  and  the  flashes  are  from  inside  of 

vugs  and  recrystallized  vesicles.     They  looke  like 
pyr  -  pyroxene  flashes;  they  could  be  ilmenite. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  my  after  picture. 

LMP-EVA    Okay;  let  me  ~  and  let  me  get  in  there  and  get 
scane  soil. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let's  get  it  first. 

LMP-EVA  From  the  north  side.  Whoops.  Okay,  the  bag  tore 
around  that;  it's  pretty  jagged  rock,  but  I  think 
it'll  hold. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA     ...  in  yours.     Okay?     It's  in  Gene's  sample 

collection  bag.    And  a  scoop  sample.     You  got  a 
bag  handy.  Gene?    Okay,  bag  ^55,  Bob.     It's  from 
the  west  side  of  the  rock.     It's  under  a  slight 
overhang  of  the  rock  -  in  a  shadow,  anyway.  Okay, 
that's  from  about  1  centimeter  down  ~-  deep,  1  to 
2  centimeters.    And  the  next  one  is  down  to  about 
5  -  5  or  6.    And  it's  got  some  chips  in  it. 


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OU  23  35  53    CDR-EVA  That's  bag  U56 ,  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that, 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA  I  know.  I  know. 


LMP-EVA    Oh,  shoot.    1.2  kilometers  is  a  long  way  from  the 
LM.     Look  at  the  Challenger  down  there.     Makes  you 

get  a  feel  for  how  big  this  valley  really  is. 

CDR-EVA    I'd  rather  not. 


LMP-EVA  Okay.  I'll  help  you. 
CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 


LMP-EVA    Turn  around  and  let  me  help  you  get  these  in  yoior 
bag, 

CDR-EVA    I  learned  now.     You  learn  of  necessity  out  here. 

Okay.  See  if  we  can't  fill  this  up  for  Christmas. 
Okay,  let's  -  You  happy  there? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  let's  -  get  your  after  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    And  if  we  can,  we  might  get  just  a  block  instead 
of  breaking  on  it,  and  then  we'll  go  to  the  rake. 
Let's  go  around  to  the  - 

CDR-EVA    Bob  wanted  a  core  here,  too,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  the  rake's  next,  as  you  might  imagine. 

Geno,  now  this  -  this  looks  -  this  stuff  here 
looks  a  little  less  vesicxaar.     Why  don't  we  try 
that  one? 


CDR-EVA    Hey,  here's  -  ro  -  look  at  this  rock,  where  the 

vesicularity  changes  from  a  hummocky  vesicularity  to 
a  very  fine  vesic\ilar.    Look  at  this.    Let  me  try 
and  crack  -  get  a  -  See  that?    The  change? 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  what  I'm  after;  that's  it. 


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CDR-EVA    Let's  see  if  I  can't  crack  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  it.    That's  what  I  saw  in  that  other  boulder. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  see  if  I  can't  crack  the  corner  and  get  that 
contact . 

LMP-EVA    Yes .    And  get  a  piece  of  both  -  I  think  you  can 
get  -  if  you  can  reach  down  there. 

CDR-EVA    See  if  I  can't  get  a  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  a  contact  in  a  rock. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CO  Beautiful.    And  you  guys  -  do  you  guys  see  any 

2-ineter  blouders  around  there? 

CDR-EVA    We  just  sampled  one.     ...  -  - 

CC  Well ,  if  that  one  showed  up  in  the  photos  ,  I  wonder 

why  those  down  near  the  ALSEP  didn't  show  up. 

LMP-EVA    Ro,  we're  not  where  you  think  we  are.    We're  not 
sure  where  we  are.     Gene,  can  you  get  down  into 
that?     Need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  just  -  give  me  the  shovel  to  hold  n^yself  with. 
Give  me  a  shovel. 

CC  I  don't  know. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  that  one? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Get  that  little  piece. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  see  it.     It's  pretty  hard.     See  if  I  can't  - 
It's  low  and  hard  to  hit. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  -  how  about  coming  around  from  this  side? 

oil  23  38  59    CDR-EVA    Well,  I  got  the  gnomon  in  the  wrong  place  really. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  80B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


ok  23  18  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  l8 

Oh  23  1+9  22    CMP  Houston,  America.  ... 

CC  Go  aliead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.    Had  ny  headset  off  here,  and  I  wasn't  paying 

nnich  attention  when  AOS  came. 

CC  Oh,  I  wasn't  even  talk  -  listening  for  you.    I  was 

talking  to  your  wife. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Did  you  get  a  decent  meal? 

CMP  Well,  it  wasn't  too  had. 

CC  Jan  said   

CMP  Turkey  and  gravy. 

CC  Jan  said  she's  -  you're  the  last  person  she  would 
ever  think  would  miss  a  meal  up  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)    That's  probably  true,  really. 

Oh  23  59  08    CMP  Thank  heavens. 

05  00  00  05    CC  Ron,  are  you  out  -  glued  to  a  window,  or  are  you 

just  eating  now? 

CMP  I'm  really  just  eating. 

CC  Roger,    Just  thought  I'd  update  here  before  you 

get  into  your  presleep  checklist  . . .  Have  a  little 
bit  of  news  from  the  day,  but  today's  -  - 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 


Tape  80B/2 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


-  -  sure  not  much  news  today.    It's  a  good  thing 
you  guys  made  the  lajading  today,  because  there 
wouldn  t  he  any  news  in  the  paper  tomorrow  if  it 
wasn't  for  you  all. 


CMP  (Laughter) 
CC  Let's  see 


Let's  see.    Japanese  Prime  Minister  Tanaka's 
Liberal  Democrats  lost  26  seats,  but  he  still  has 
a  firm  hold  on  the  Diet ,  and  Tanaka  still  has  a 
firm  majority.    And  Henry  Kissinger  and 
Le  Due  Tlio's  secret  Paris  peace  talks  have  bogged 
down  some  more,  and  they  think  they  are  bogged 
down  under  some  academic  situations.    And  -  news 
out  of  Kansas  City  isn't  too  good,  but  President 
iruman  is  -  feeling  some  irregular  heartbeats  and 
has  reduced  the  optimism  for  his  recovery. 


CMP  Not  too  good. 


This  la^t  one  has  got  to  be  the  height  of  trivia. 
i  m_  just  going  to  read  it  to  you  exactly  the  way 

^  ^^^^  Saigon.    Question?    What  does 
an  Air  Force  enlisted  man  do  when  he  meets  a  naked 
general?    He  salutes.    An  order  issued  by  Major 
Paul  M.  Boseman  at  Tan  Son  Nhut  Air  Base  makes  the 
requirement  clear.     Salute  when  you  recognize  an 
officer,  even  though  you  both  are  nude.    An  Air 
Force  spokesman  said  he  didn't  know  under  what 
circumstances  officers  and  enlisted  personnel 
mght  encounter  -  encounter  each  other  in  the  nude, 
iund  of  -  news  for  tonight. 

(Laughter)    News  -  a  little  trivia,  isn't  it? 
CC  Yes,  indeed. 

CC  Everybody  from  the  homefront  sending  their  love 

ITiey  are  having  a  little  trouble  hacking  out  the  - 
the  comm.  since  we're  all  on  a  squawk  box  together. 
fL  ^Z  f  ^  ^"^""^  *°         *°  set  it  set  up  so  just 

of  a  jumble  for  them. 


Tape  80B/3 


CMP  (Laughter)    I  imagine  so,  wouldn't  it?    They  can't 

turn  one  dovn  -  or  something,  h^ih? 

CC  That's  right.    Well,  they  are  going  to  -  they  are 

going  to  try  and  get  it  worked  on  for  tomorrow  so 
that  only  the  CSM  loop  will  go  in  there.    They  Just 
had  to  finaJ.ly  give  up  on  it  and  go  watch  the  -  the 
surface  work,  on  television  because  over  where  the 
loop  was,  it  was  Just  too  much. 

CMP  Yes,  I  bet. 

CC  When  you  get  into  the  presleep  checklist,  you  can 

delete  the  stir  cryos,  which  is  in  the  checklist. 
We  won't  stir  the  cryos,  and  then  as  you  get 
further  downstream  closer  to  LOS  here  -  the  sleep 
period,  we'll  have  you  turn  the        TAHK  2  FANS  to 

the  ON  position.     I'll  give  you  a  reminder  on  that. 
CMP  Okay. 

05  00  05  06    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.    BAT  C  is  about  36.8  or  9, 

something  like  that  (cough). 

CC  Say  again.     Say  again  

05  00  05  l6    CMP  PYRO  A  is  37. 

CC  Okay. 

05  00  05  18    CMP  PYRO  -  okay.    PYRO  A  is  37;  PYRO  B  is  37-    BAT  C 

is  oh  -  36.9-     Okay.     I  think  you  want  the  quads 
now,  ...? 

CC  Roger. 

05  00  05  hk    CMP  Okay.    Alfa  is  82.    Bravo  -  a  78.    Charlie  is  80. 

Delta  is  -  about  83. 

CC  Roger.    We  got  those,  and  that  matches  pretty  close 

with,  what  we  got  right  in  front  of  us  on  those 
quads.    You  can  go  ahead  and  take  the       tanks  2 

FANS  to  ON  at  this  time   


Tape  QOB/k 


CMP  Okay. 

05  00  06  22    CMP  Okay.    Tank  2  FMS  are  going  ON.    H^,  that  is. 

CC  Roger. 

05  00  07  35    CC  And,  Ron,  we'd  like  Omi  Bravo. 

05  00  07  hk    CMP  Okay.    You  have  OMNI  Bravo. 

05  00  18  13    CC  Ron,  you  have  less  than  a  minute  to  LUNAR  SOUNDER, 

OPERATE  and  STANDBY. 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CC 


Oh,  okay.    Thank  you.    2:59,  hioh? 


CC  Roger.  122:59. 


How  about  giving  me  a  mark  on  it  so  I  can  see 
what  the  actual  delay  is  here  in  the  room?  If 
you're  going  to  do  it  right  at  59,  give  me  a  mark, 
will  you  please? 


CMP  Okay. 


55  -  56  -  57  -  58  -  59  - 


05  00  19  03    CMP  MARK  it. 


Answer:    3  seconds  away,  big  as  life. 


CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 


You  may  he  far  away,  but  you're  as  close  as  yovir 
telephone. 


CMP  (Laughter)    That's  right. 

05  00  20  13    CC  You  can  go  RECORDER.  OFF,  now,  Ron. 

05  00  20  21    CMP  Okay.    RECORDER  -  is  OFF. 


And  If  you  will,  you  can  pick  up  on  the  top  of  the 
next  page,  123.     RADAR,  OFF;  DATA  SYSTEM,  OFF; 
et  cetera.     ...  DATA  SYSTEM,  ON. 


Tape  80B/5 


CMP 

Okay. 

05  00  21  2k 

CMP 

Okay.    RADAE  is  coming  OFF,  DATA  SYSTEM  is  coming 
OK. 

05  00  21  32 

CMP 

HIGH  GAIN  AMTEMA  is  going  to  POWER. 

05  00  21  h2 

CMP 

MAmJAL,  WIDE. 

05  00  21  50 

CMP 

7k,  280. 

05  00  22  22 

CMP 

Okay.    SM/AC  POWER  is  coming  ON. 

05  00  22  h3 

CMP 

MAPPING  CAMERA  is  STANDBY.    Self  test  to  heaters. 

05  00  22  56 

CMP 

UV  is  ON,     IR  is  ON. 

05  00  23  05 

CMP 

(Cough)    UV  COVER  is  going  OPEN.    Barber  pole  and 
a  gray. 

05  00  23  11 

CMP 

IR  is  OPEN.    Barber  pole  and  a  gray. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    Just  on  those  HIGH  GAIN  ANTENNAS,  on 

your  knob  settings,  we'd  like  you  to  tweak  those 
as  close  to  those  settings  as  you  can  possibly  get 
it,  for  good  comm  during  the  night. 

CMP  Okay.    You  want  -  minus  7k  and  280,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative;  we  just  wanted  to  tweak  them 

up  as  best  we  can. 

CC  I'll  say  it  again.     It's  the  one  in  the  sleep 

checklist.    You'll  get  to  it  at  -  you  get  to  it 
down  here  at  about  -  at  about  23:10. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Sounds  like  some  good  music  in  the  background  there. 

CMP  Oh,  not  too  bad  really. 

05  00  25  30    CC  Ron,  if  you're  finished  there,  we  would  like  the  - 

ACCEPT.     We  got  to  get  on  monitor  load,  and  we  got 
a  state  vector  for  you  tonight. 


\ 


Tape  8OB/6 

05  00  25  k2    CMP  Okay.    You  have  ACCEPT. 

CC  Roger. 


CC 


CC 


CMP 
CC 


CC 


FDO  showed  me  wiiere  those  -  they're  plotting  on 
Doppler  what  those  mas  cons  are  doing  to  you.  They 
realOy  -  really  have  effect. 


CMP  Oh,  they  are,  huh? 


Yes,  you  can  really  see  when  you  are  going  ri^t 
over  Imhrium  and  -  Serenitatis. 


CMP  (Laughter) 


CC  And  Just  prior  to  getting  into  the  rest  -  sleep, 

we  can  take  BATTERY  B  off  the  charge;  terminate 
the  charge. 

05  00  26  36    CMP  Okay. 

05  00  27  35    CMP  Okay,    i  checked  out  the  tone  booster,  and  it's 

hooked  up. 

CC  Good  show, 

05  00  30  3h    CMP  Well,  I  guess  I'd  better  chlorinate  the  old  water. 

05  00  35  20    CC  Okay,  Ron.    You  can  go  to  BLOCK.    The  coniputer  is 

yours . 


Okay.    Will  do  shortly. 

Okay.  You  want  me  to  remind  you  again  while 
you're  -  after  you're  chlorinated  here? 


CMP  No,  I'll  get  it  out. 

CC  Okay. 


The  -  the  sur  -  the  surface  boys  are  on  the  way 
back  to  the  LM,  completed  their  EVA,  and  they're 
getting  -  they're  driving  back  to  LM  right  now. 


CMP  Hey,  good. 


Tape  80B/T 


CMP  They  got  out  and  did  a  little  riding  around  on 

the  Rover  too,  huh? 

CC  That's  right.    It  -  they  -  they   

CMP  After  the  ALSEP  was  all  deployed? 

CC  Yes.    The  ALSEP 's  deployed.    They  had  to  cut  their 

time  at  Station  1  a  little  hit.    They  got  to 
curtail  th^e  EVA  slightly  short  of  T  hours  due  to 
the  higih  oxygen  usage  during  the  -  deploying  the 
ALSEP.    Only  15  minutes  early,  so  it's  no  hig  deal. 

CMP  Oh.,  I  see.    Well,  that's  not  had. 

CC  Ho,  they're  -  Gene  was  working  pretty  hard  putting 

that  drill  in  the  ground,  and  it  was  some  pretty 
diffictilt  work.    And  they  -  they  each  fell  a 
couple  of  times,  so  they  were  really  pretty  busy". 

CMP  (Laughter) 

05  00  39  00    CMP  Are  we  going  to  leave  tank  3-1  mean,  tank  2,  H 

FAS,  OK,  all  the  time? 

05  00  39  05    CC  Roger.         tank  2  FAST,  OK,  for  all  night. 

CWP  Okay. 

05  00  '39  32    CC  Only  thing  we've  got,  Ron,  is  it  looks  like  you've 

got  to  get  the  BAT  B  off  the  CHARGE  and  then  - 
configure  the  comm,  and  you  are  already  to  bed 
down. 

CMP  Okay. 

05  0  0  39  59    CMP  Okay.    BATTERY  B  relay's  breakers  IH.  Charger's 

OFF. 

CMP  Okay.     I've  got  to  clean  the  old  suit  circuit 

return  screen  yet. 

CMP  Plus  X  forward  here  so  -  plus  25  and  195.  No, 

wait  a  minute.    Mintis  10  and  plus  25. 


Tape  80B/8 


CC 
CMP 

05  00  h2  37  CC 
CMP 

05  00  hk  27  CC 

CMP 

CC 

CMP 
CC 

CMP 
CMP 
CC 

05  00  hi  57  CC 

.  CMP 

CC 
CMP 


Roger.    That  -  that's  affirmative.    Minus  10, 
plus  25.    And  as  tight  as  you  can  get  it  to  those 
ntunbers,  Ron. 

_^®llv  you  what.    I  believe  the  dials 

more  than  I  believe  the  set  knobs,  so  -  Was  that 
the  AOS  there?    No.    Not  quite. 

Ron,  ve  just  been  debating  here;  you  need  to  be 
sure  to  do  the  knobs  at  the  minus  10  and  plus  25. 

Okay.    I'll  put  the  knobs  there. 

Ron,  everything  is  looking  great  down  here.  It 
was  a  really  great  day,  really  busy.    We're  sorry 
about  that  eat  period;  and  it's  been  real  -  lot 
of  -  lot  of  things  accomplished. 

(Laughter)  It  was  a  good  day.  Don't  worry  about 
that  eating.    No  problem  there. 

And  the  bird  looks  great ,  and  we ' 11  see  you  when 
we  wake  you  up.    You  can  sign  off  any  time. 

Okay. 

One  point,  Ron.    They  would  like  to  have  the  ... 
here  -  - 


•  •  • 


Got  it? 

Yes,  beautiful. 

Ron,  Just  a  reminder  on  the  S-BAND  NORMAL,  VOICE, 
OFF,  when  you're  ready  to  -  back  out. 

Okay.  Let  me  throw  a  little  ...  solution  down  In 
the  water  here  for  about  10  minutes,  I  think. 

Roger . 

It  takes  a  little  longer  to  do  all  this  stuff  by 
yourself  (laughter). 


v.. 

1 


4. 


Tape  80B/9 


CC  It  sure  does. 


05  00  53  2k    CC  Okay,  Ron.    We're  going  to  drop  the  up-link  here 

in  1  minute,  so  see  you  tomorrow. 

CMP  Okay.    Thank  you  all.    We'll  see  you  in  the 

morning. 

CC  That's  all  right.    You  -  you  can  call  us,  hut  we  - 

05  00  53  36    CMP  ...  VOICE  is  going  OFF.    You  can  call  me,  hut  I 

can't  call  you.  (Latighter) 


05  01  17  XX  BEGIN  LUKAE  REV  19 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  81A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

Ol+  23  39  01    LMP-EVA     ...  let  me  see  here. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  going  to  lean  on  the  -  on  the  rock 

maybe.     I  got  that  other  little  piece  in  sight. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  I  got  that  piece  in  sight,  too.     Let  me  - 

LMP-EVA  Get  them  both  with  your  - 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  get  them  both  right  now. 

LMP-EVA  You  can  stick  that  in  the  ground  if  you  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  this  is  a  sample  of  the  -  of  the  more  coarsely 
vesiculELT  rock. 

LMP-EVA    You  got  it  in  your  hand? 

CMP-EVA    I  got  them  both.     I  think,  actually,  we  got  a 
sample  of  both  sides;  but  I  woiildn't  bet  on  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  just  got  a  chxmk  of  that  side. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  got  both  of  these. 

LMP-EVA    See  that  rock  right  over  there  on  the  little  mound. 
Just  projecting  out  of  the  edge  of  it? 

CDR-EVA  Where  are  you  looking? 

LMP-EVA  Right  over  there. 

CDR-EVA  Here? 

LMP-EVA  No . 

CDR-EVA  Here? 

LMP-EVA  Where  I'm  pointing. 

CDR-EVA  There? 


Tape  8IA/2 


LMP-EVA    There  you  go;  you  just  about  touched  it.  Right 
there,  that  piece. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  get  these  in  a  bag  here. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'll  get  that  piece;  and  that's  the  sampleG 
from  either  side  of  the  contact  anyway.     Can  you 
get  a  bag  -  - 

CDR-EVA  They're  pretty  small. 

CDR-EVA  Give  me  a  hammer,  and  get  a  bag  and  I'll  -  - 

LMP-EVA  You  take  the  hammer. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  these  in  my  hand  I  want  to  put  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Bag  UTT  is  the  -  coarsely  vesicular  rock. 

CDR-EVA    Are  two  of  them  there?     I  hope  two  of  them  fell 
in. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  only  got  one. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  here's  that  other  one.     It  had  to  fall 
right  here. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  think  it  ever  -  Is  that  -  There  it  is; 
get  your  tongs. 

CDR-EVA    Right  here? 

LMP-EVA    Now  you're  full  of  dirt  in  the  scoop;  you  just 
covered  it  up. 

CDR-EVA  Got  it;  I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Here,  put  it  in  here  with  the  dirt.    That's  good. 

CDR-EVA  A  little  dirt  never  hurt  anybody. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    1+77  are  tvo  chips  of  the  -  They're  small,  but  I 
think  they'll  give  you  the  -  if  there's  any  com- 
positional difference. 

CDR-EVA    But  these  two  are  the  ones  you  saw  -  that  right 
there?    That's  what  you  pointed  at. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  you  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  take  a  -  a  closeup  stereo  on 
that  contact . 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  definitely. 

CC  Okay;  and.  Jack  and  Gene,  when  you  get  done  with 

that  boulder,  we'd  like  you  to  move  on  to  the  - 
the  rake  soil  sample,  please;  emd  that'll  be  a 
kilogram  sample,  please. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  we're  going  to.    We're  going  to. 

LMP-EVA    In  bag  U78  is  the  chip  from  the  finely  -  more 

finely  vesicular  rock.    Both  of  them  are  coarse. 
It's  a  small  chip;  but  it'll  tell  the  story,  I 
think. 

CDR-EVA    Dust,  dust,  dust,  dust.    Here  you  are.     I'll  go 
ahead  and  get  a  closeup  stereo  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Get  a  closeup,  and  I'll  get  the  rake.     I'll  get 
started  on  the  rake. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  if  you  can  pick  up  one  more  rock  in  that 
picture,  with  your  tongs,  let's  bag  it. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA  As  you  come  back. 

CC  And,  17.    We'd  like  to  have  you  guys  

CDR-EVA  Sure  wish  I  could  read  this . 

CC  -  -  driving  in  ID  minutes,  please. 


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CDR-E\'A    Nag,  nag,  nag. 

CC  That's  right,  that's  right,  that's  right. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  can't  see  my  camera  setting,  it's  so  full 
of  dust . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  guess  you  want  to  sort  of  -  out  in  nothing's 
land  here,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    I  can  hag  it  for  you,  Geno. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    That's  all  right.     I  want  to  get  this  closeup  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I've  moved  about  -  5  meters  -  5  to  8  meters 
northeast  of  the  Rover.    And  -  as  soon  as  Gene 
gets  here  with  the  gnomon  - 

CDR-EVA    Coming,  coming. 

Ok  23  h3  50    LMP-EVA    Bob,  I've  got  a  -  a  sample  that  was  laying  next 

to  that  boulder.     I  did  not  get  an  after  picture 
of  it,  but  it's  -  as  I  was  taking  my  closeup 
pictures,  it  -  is  on  my  side  of  the  boulder  just 
U  or  5  inches ,  covered  with  the  daxk  mantle . 

CDR-EVA    I  think  we  -  I  think  we  probably  disturbed  that 
one.     It'll  probably  show  up  in  the  befores. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  we  want  a  rake. 

LMP-EVA  That's  in  bag  1+79. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Gene,  let's  rake  -  let's  rake  right  out  there. 

CDR-EVA    Look,  let's  go  ahead  and  bag  that  one;  and  I'll 
get  the  gnomon  out  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 


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CDR-EVA    Boh,  as  you  might  have  seen  from  the  camera,  up 
towards  where  we  think  Emory  is  you  get  a  pretty 
high  concentration  of  hoiaders  up  there. 

CC  Okay.    And  I  think  that  that's  where  we  thought 

we  were  a  little  bit  closer  to  Emory  than  you  are. 

CDB-E\^A    Well,  we  thought  about  going  on  up  there;  although  - 
we're  in  a  pretty  good  area  here,  too,  from  the 
standpoint  of  boulders . 

CC  Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Again,  I  think  -  Face  the  Sun, 
CC  •  » • 

CDR-EVA    I  think  for  the  most  part,  large  and  small,  all 
the  frag  -  all  the  fragments  seem  to  be  -  seem 
to  be  filleted  or  even  mantled  by  the  dark  material. 

IM'-EVA    Let  me  get  out  of  your  way. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I've  got  to  clean  my  camera;  I  can't  even 
see.    What  area  are  you  going  to  rak:e? 

LMP-EVA    To  the  -  your  left  of  the  -  well,  ahead  of  the  - 
ahead  of  the  gnomon  and  to  your  left,  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  Gene,  we  copy  that.     That's  a  good  observa- 

tion.    And  I  also  gathered  that  most  of  the  rocks 
look  pretty  much  the  same. 

LMP-EVA    That's  what  I  said. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  except  a  change  in  vesicularity   

CC  Roger . 

CDR-EVA    in  terms  of  the  size  of  vesicles,  where  I 

described  one  as  being  a  more  huramocky  vesicular- 
type  rock.    The  first  time  I've  noticed  any  of  the 
dark  minerals  was  when  we  took  that  one  big  flat 
chip  off  that  boulder. 


Tape  8IA/6  . 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

Oh  23  U6  hi  CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 


CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
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CDR-EVA 


Okay;  copy  that. 

I  didn't  look  at  it  that  close  to  see  what  it  was. 
Copy  that,  guys. 

I'm  going  to  get  a  pan.  Jack,  while  you're  doing 
that. 

Okay. 

Good  idea.  Gene. 

Man,  are  there  some  good  targets  for  the  500 
aroiand  here.    We've  got  to  get  those  massifs  with 
the  500. 

And,  17;  again,  we'd  like  -  - 

And,  Bob,  I'm  really  only  penetrating  -  I'm  only 
penetrating  about,  at  the  most,  3  centimeters 
into  this  area  with  the  rake.     I've  picked  up  a 
very  good  sample  of  bla  -  of  boulders  but  most 
of  them  were  -  were  in  that  distance  of  the  sur- 
face and  projecting  out  of  it. 

Okay;  I  copy  that. 

You  ready.  Gene? 

A  couple  of  more,  Jack.    Okay,  coming  at  you. 
Bob,  the  pan  is  complete.     I'll  give  you  a  frame 
count  shortly. 

Copy  that ,  Geno . 

There's  two  bags,  I  think. 

Two  bags  full.     First  bag  is  i+57  

Copy  that . 

-  -  i+57. 

Let  me,  let  me  -  don't  let  me  lose  them.  That's 
enough .    Give  me  a  couple  of  small  ones . 


LMP-EVA 


Okay. 


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CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  good.    That's  good.  Okay. 
LMP-EVA    Here ,  ...    They  are . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  in  hag  Il58  is  the  rest  of  the  -  the  rake 
sample.    They're  all  fragments. 

CC  Copy  that.     Now  we  need  the  kilogram  of  the  soil. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh.    All  the  fragments,  of  course,  are  - 
are  completely  covered  with  -  the  mantle ;  and 
they  are  slightly  -  oh,  maybe  20-percent  vesicular. 
I  just  took  a  glance  at  them.     But,  for  the  most 
part ,  they  appear  to  he  rounded  and  subrounded 
fragments . 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Let's  get  the  kilogram. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  well,  shoot.    Start  all  over. 

CDR-EVA  Try  it  again.     U59  will  get  the  kilogram.  Boh. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Get  some  more. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  fill  it  up. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  close  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes ,  yes ,  I  can  close  it . 

LMP-EVA  That's  a  good  kilogram. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I  Just  can't  even  read  my  camera  anymore. 

I've  got  to  learn  how  to  control  the  dust.  Okay, 
that's  in. 

LMP-EVA    Okay;  you  get  the  answer? 

CDR-EVA    I  tried  to  blow  the  dust  off  my  camera  -  - 


Tape  8IA/8 


LMP-EVA  If  we  could  get  a  -  I  think  it's  going  to  be  hard 
to  get  a  double  core  here.  We  could  try  a  single 
right  there.    Bob,  we  got  time  to  get  the  core? 

CC  Negative.     The  core  has  been  deleted.     We'd  like 

for  you  to  get  your  second  pan.  Jack,  and  then 
we'll  press  on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  it  over  here  where  our  two  sample  sites 
are  in  view. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  now  I  know  why  I  felt  that  we  were  much  too 
close  to  Trident  than  what  I  thought.    We  weren't 
really  too  close  to  Trident  because  Trident  is 
way  out  here.    That  makes  me  feel  better.    A  guy 
would  know  if  he  landed  100  meters  from  a  big  set 
of  craters  like  that.    You  know,  on  a  landing  site 
like  this,  you  ought  to  know  exactly  where  you  are. 
Anyway,  I  landed  where  I  wanted  to.     Okay,  Bob, 
here's  a  reading  for  you. 

OI+  23  51  3h    CC  Okay.    Ready  for  it. 

CDR-EVA    670,  012,  901;  670,  012,  901. 

CC  Okay ;  copy  that ,  Geno . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  we  -  no  more  charges  to  deploy  back  - 
going  back,  right? 

CC  No,  we  will  deploy  charge  number  7  on  the  way 

back. 

CDR-EVA    On  the  way  back.  Okay. 

CC  Roger.     It  will  be  deployed  at  the  same  location 

we  were  originally  planning  on  deploying  it,  which 
was  in  the  checklist  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Very  good,  sir.     We'll  get  at  it. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay.     I'm  taking  your  camera. 


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CC  Okay.     And,  Jack,  you  got  the  pan  or  getting  it? 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  sir. 

CDR-EVA  And,  Bob,  CDR  is  on  frame  count  60. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Which  one?    And  the  LMP  is  on  95- 

CC  Copy,  95. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  We  need  EP-T ,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  You  got  the  gnomon? 

CDR-EVA  Got  the  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA  And  the  rake  aJid  the  scoop? 

CDR-EVA  The  rake  and  the  scoop  are  back  on.    Okay,  get 

the  charge.    I'll  set  the  low  gain,  and  we'll  be 
ready  to  do  it . 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  ray  impression  right  now  is  that  the  dark 

mantle  may  Just  be  a  -  a  -  well ,  at  least  in  here 
it's  indistinguishable  from  a  regolith  that  might 
be  derived  from  these  other  rocks .     It  seems  to 
be  a  little  dark  for  that,  but  that  might  be  the 
answer . 

CC  Okay.  We'll   

LMP-EVA  EP-T? 

CDR-EVA  EP-7. 

CC  We're  ...  to  do  on  that  again  tomorrow.  And 

EP-T  is  the  charge,  right? 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I  figured  out  if  you  -  if  you  mount  the 

Rover  at  90  degrees,  when  you  kick  up  your  feet, 
you  -  you'll  miss  the  dust. 


Tape  8IA/IO 


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LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
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CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

Ok  23  55  07  CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 


Let  me  hook  you  in  before  I  do  that. 
Okay. 

Just  put  your  seat  90  degrees  to  it. 
Yes. 

Well,  you  certainly  ride  high. 
Do  I? 

Yes.     I'm  surprised  the  belt  fits. 
Yes,  it  fits  fine.    Okay.     I'm  in. 
Okay. 
Oop  - 

Not  too  good,  huh? 

Yes.    We're  learning.    I  hope  my  bag  was  closed. 
Yours  was.    Did  you  get  it? 

Yes  -  yes.    I  -  as  a  matter  of  fact,  I  did.  I 
thought  that . 

Okay,  we  mark  you  underway. 

Hey,  you  ought  to  put  that  sampler  d  -  - 

Not  yet. 

It's  not  the  sampler  -  it's  these  bags  with 
Emony  [ ? ] . 

This  thing  is  too  high  for  you.     You're  hitting 
it  all  the  time.     No,  we're  not  on  our  way.  Bob. 

Okay. 

Okay.    And  you  want  the  -  charge  deployed  at 
320.7,  huh? 

Roger.  It  will  be  0.6.  We'll  change  that  to  0.6 
on  EP-7  but  -  and  it  will  really  be  just  wherever 
you  cross  0.6  on  the  range. 


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Okay  • 

Well,  it  fit  once- 

Did  you  twist  it,  Jack?  I80,  that  took  out  some 
of  your  -  Wait  a  minute  -  here. 

Which  way? 

Well,  I  can't  see.    Your  left  hand's  in  the  way 
now.    Away  from  you.    Twist  it  away  from  you 
180  degrees . 

Like  that? 

Yes,  now  the  other  90.    Okay,  now  try  it. 
Well,  let  me  see. 
You  got  it? 

That  should  -  that  should  do  it.  Okay. 
Okay? 

Here's  your  charge.     I  think  you're  learning. 
That's  half  of  the  first  EVA.     Okay,  Boh,  we  are 
rolling. 

MARK  it. 

Okay,  copy  that.  Jack  -  Gene. 

Okay,  what  was  it  -  where  did  they  want  it 
deployed? 

Six-tenths  of  a  kilometer. 
Back,  huh? 

Roger.     It'll  be  at  a  range  of  0.6,  guys. 
You've  got  a  block  right  ahead  of  you. 
I  got  it. 


Tape  8IA/I2 


CC  Okay.    And  remember  you'll  be  taking  photos  coming 

"back  here.  Jack  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC   if  you  get  a  chance. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.    Thank  you.     I  got  a  fev  going  out.  Bob, 
but  they  weren't  too  well  spaced. 

CC  Okay.    And  I  assume  you've  got  the  low  gain  antenna 

aJ-igned. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir;  it's  aligned.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    That's  got  to  be  Trident,  Jack,  because  that's 
too  big  for  anything  else . 

oh  23  58  52    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston.    There's  -  the  classic  raindrop 

pattern  over  this  fine  debris.    I'd  say  that  the 
s-urface  definitely  is  sorted,  the  fine  regolithic 
material  forming  one  fraction  and  then  the  blocks 
another.    The  blocks  are  prob  -  those  blocks  are 
greater  than  a  -  2  centimeters  in  diameter.  In 
general,  make  up  less  than  10  percent  of  the  surface. 
But  there  are  some  big  ones .    And  it  -  fairly 
uniformly  distributed.    There  are  blocks  a  meter 
in  diameter. 

CC  Copy  that . 

CDE-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  that  big  crater  out  there  at  2  o'clock 
has  probably  got  to  be  Sherlock.     That's  got  to 
be  Sherlock  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  probably.    I  think  the  only  place  I've  really 
identified  that  we  can  go  to  is  to  station  6. 

CDR-LMP    Yes,  but  you  can't  -  we've  got  to  get  on  a  high 
vantage  point  here  one  of  these  days. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Wall,  I  think  we'll  find  Camelot  without  any 
problem. 


CDR-EVA 


Yes.    Okay,  watch.    I'm  going  through  it. 


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LMP-EVA    Okay.    No  problem, 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'd  rather  straddle  or  go  throiigh  those 
little  ones . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  here's  another  crater  about  the  same 
size  we  sampled  -  the  last  station.    And  it 
doesn't  have  as  many  blocks,  but  it  does  have 
blocks.    And  from  this  distance,  their  vesicular 
texture  and  their  light  color  shows  up  very  well. 
I  suspect  they're  the  same  general  kind.  There's 
a  glass-bottom  crater. 

CC  Okay.    You  got  a  range  and   

SC-EVA 

CC    bearing,  there,  guys,  please. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  3^1.8. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Did  you  take  a  picture.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  You're  pointed  right  at  station  6,  I  think.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  you  may  be  right.    There's  that  boulder. 

I  just  want  to  get  up  here  where  I  can  . . .  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Not  the  one  on  the  track  but  the  one  over  there 
to  the  right  of  that. 

LMP-EVA    Unless  the  one  with  the  track  -I'm  -  I've  got 
mixed  emotions  which  is  6. 

CDR-EVA    That's  -  that's  probably  -  look  over  there  to  the 
left.    You  see  that. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    That's  Trident.    Man,  I'll  tell  you. 


Tape  8lA/llt 


LMP-EVA    Look  at  this  thing.    That  looks  like  the  same 

kind  of  rock  except  it  doesn't  have  any  vesicles. 

CDR-EVA    There's  some  white  stuff  in  that  rock.    Just  let 
me  take  a  quick  pic  ... 

CDR-EVA    See  that  one  right  in  front  of  it?    Take  a  pic- 
ture of  it. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  you  mean  this  one,  here. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  a  -  that's  a  big  zap  pit,  isn't  it? 
Take  a  picture  of  that? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  they're  big  zap  pits.    Same  rock  with  big 

zap  pits.    I  got  to  change  the  -  well,  ...  Okay. 
Although  there  are  -  I  think  those  are  zap  pits. 
It's  a  little  hard  to  say. 

CDR-EVA    Looks  like  a  big  chip  out  of  the  rock. 

LMP-EVA    They're  white  halos ;  it  Just  has  more  of  them. 

CDR-EVA    But  it's  a  hig  one;  it's  about  an  inch  and  a  half 
or  2  inches  across . 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  tell  you,  I've  got  to  go  and  get  my  skies  and 
geometry  squsired  away. 

CC  Okay,  17,  how  about   

CDR-EVA    Did  you  see  this  one? 

CC  -  -  range  and  bearing? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     31+1.7-    Bob,  we're  moving  at  about  11  clicks 
right  now. 

CC  Copy  that.     Beautiful.     Remember  the  charge  goes 

off  Ht  0.6. 

LMP-EVA    Doesn't  sound  like  -  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    Okay,  we  want  to  -  - 

CDR-EYA    Over  there's  the  mantle  -  there's  the  white  mantle. 

Jack,  look  over  there.    Can  you  look  to  your  left? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  does.  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  white  mantle. 

LMP-EVA    Swing  around  that  way. 

CDR-EVA    Call  it  a  slide  or  not,  hut  that's  the  white 

mantle.    Whoo!     That's  my  first  real  good  picture 
of  it.    That  is  something. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  some  of  that.    Okay,  how  are  we  doing? 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  want  to  go  in  that  crater,  that's  what  I 
don't  want  to  do.    Okay.    We're  at  0.6;  how  about 
339  ... 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  got  a  couple  of  shots  right  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Coming  right  around  to  you. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  that's  good.     Hold  that  heading.  V/hoa. 
That'll  he  good. 

CDR-EVA    Right  here? 

LMP-EVA    Yes ,  whoa. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  get  my  -  Okay,  I  got  my  locator. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  now  this  one  we  want  me  to  get  a  partial  pan 
until  something's  identified. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We'll  do  that.    We've  got  to  t\irn  that  way 
anyway. 

05  00  02  32    LMP-EVA    Okay,  pin  1,  pull,  SAFE.    Pin  2,  pull,  SAFE. 

Pin  3  - 

05  00  02  Ul    LMP-EVA    MARK  it,  pull,  SAFE. 

CC  Okay.    And  I  copy  that  as  charge  number  7- 

LMP-EVA    That's  affirm. 


Tape  8IA/I6 


CC  Okay.    And  we'd  like  a  frame  nuiriber  vhen  you  get 

done  there.  Jack,  after  you  get  it  on  the  ground. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  stand  "by.    Okay.    I  think  we'll  miss  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Bearing  is  339-6. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  start  a  -  a  pan  around  it.  Gene   

CC  Copy  that.  Gene   

LMP-EVA    Okay,  let  me  get  it  out  -  Okay,  camera  starts 
slowly  . . .  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Going  to  miss  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  by  a  lot. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  taking  your  pictures? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.    Wheels  cleared  it  by  -  it's  got  to  be 
a  lot.     Is  my  low  gain  dropping  out? 

CDR-EVA    How  much  are  n^r  wheels  missing  it  by  -  going 
around? 

LMP-EVA    Lots.    About  a  meter.  Okay, 

CDR-EVA    Ok^.    We're  on  our  way.    The  low  gain  is  set 
again. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  heading  on  back  to  SEP. 

CC  Okay,  and  a  frame  count  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  pan  -  was  more  -  the  pan  was  more  or  less 
complete  at  lh6. 

CC  Copy,  ikS  on  auto[ mobile ] . 

MP-EVA    Bob,  you  know,  the  more  I  look  at  this  -  Watch 
out  for  those  babies  there  -  at  this  -  at  this 
dark  dust,  if  you  will,  the  more  it  doesn't  seem 
like  the  kind  of  thing  you'd  expect  to  have  been 
derived  from  the  underlying  bedrock.     But  I  think 
you're  going  to  have  to  play  that  game  in  the 
lab  right  now. 


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CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.     Can  you   

LMP-EVA    We'll  see  how  it  works  out  later. 
CC  Roger . 

LMP-EVA    It  just  seems  dark  and  much  too  fine  grain.     It  - 
don't  have  the  impression  that  you're  getting  the 
size  distribution  you'd  expect  to  get  by  having 
6lL1  these  blocks  around. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Definitely,  I  think,  at  least  in  my  mind,  ... 
population  -  size  population  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  that  almost  looks  like  bedrock  over  exposed 
in  there.    See  that? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  why  don't  you  take  a  pass  over  that  way. 
Get  through  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  can  get  through  there. 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  know  where  you  are? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    In  Trident? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  no-no,  we're  not  in  Trident.  That's 

awful  -  that's  pretty  steep  down  in  there.  I'd 
walk  down  there.    I'm  not  sure  I  want  to  drive 
down  there  yet. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  didn't  mean  down  in  there.     I  meant  right 
over  there. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  here's  some  right  here. 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Take  a  picture  of  that? 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 


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CC  And  how  about  a  range  and  bearing  when  you  stop, 

to  take  the  picture. 

CDR-EVA  Okay   


CC  We  need  a   

CDR-EVA    336. U. 

CC  336.it.  Roger. 

05  00  05  59    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  get  a  distinct  impression  that  -  Jack  says 

it's  going  to  be  hard  to  tell  whether  this  is 
regolith  composed  from  the  rock  field  we  see 
around,  but  -  I  get  a  distinct  impression  -  you  can 
see  that  dark  mantle  over  on  top  of  almost  all  the 
rocks.    Except  we  have  fresh  glass,  possibly,  in 
the  bottom  of  some  of  these  small  craters. 


CC  Okay 
CDR-EVA 


Everywhere  else  there  is  actually  mantle,  I  be- 
lieve, in  and  around  some  of  the  crevices  and  in 
the  vesicles  and  what  have  you. 


CC  Okay,  I  copy  -  - 


CDR-EVA 


It's  all  material  though,  that  could  be  -  it's 
material  that  coiild  be  knocked  in  there  by  the 
local  impact. 


CC  Okay;  but  I  gather  you  find  a  lot  of  material  on 

top  of  the  rocks . 


LMP-EVA    I  think  we  lost  them. 


CDR-EVA    Not  a  lot.  Bob.    Not  a  lot.     It's  there,  though. 
CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    They're  not  nearly  as  covered  with  dust  as  they  - 
as  they  get  when  -  when  you  drop  one.     It's  Just 
a  -  it's  really  a  salting  or  a  scattering  of 
debris  in  the  depressions  -  - 

CC  Okay. 


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CDR-EVA  on  the  rock.    The  projections  of  the  rock  are 

perfectly  clean. 

CC  Okay.    I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  hut  most  of  all  -  most  of  all  the  craters 

are  -  have  relatively  . . . ,  except  vhere  the  rocks 
are  showing  the  "boulders  on  the  side,  or  -  within 
the  craters  are  evident  -  are  suddenly  covered 
over  with  this  mantle.     You  don't  see  any  good 
sharp  ridges  on  -  walls  on  some  of  these  craters. 
Even  the  small  ones . 


CC  Okay.    Roger  on  that. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I  tell  you,  you  could  lose  the  rear  end  of 
this  thing  in  a  hurry,  if  you'd  like. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  you  have  lost  a  fender.    I  keep  getting 
rained  on  here. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  no, 

LMP-EVA    Look  at  that  rooster  tail  -  look  what's  ahead  of 
us  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  probahly  it.    It  prohahly  didn't  stay. 
I  can  see  it  in  a  shadow. 


LMP-EVA    Sure,  look  at  it. 

CDR-EVA    Oh  boy,  that's  going  to  be  terrible.    That  is 
really  going  to  be  bad. 

LMP-EVA    I  didn't  see  it.    We  probably  lost  it.    I  think 
I  know  when  because  I  just  started  to  notice  it. 
Bob,  I'm  going  to  state  what  Gene  said  slightly 
differently.    There  just  aren't  a  lot  of  very 
sharp,  bright  craters,  but  there  are  some.  All 
the  craters  seem  to  be  pretty  well  formed.  It 
isn't  an  extensive  mantle.    Matter  of  fact,  for 
exataple,  hasn't  filled  the  ...    Are  we  due  to 
deploy  that  thing  now? 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  -  want  to  -  want  to  -  come  in  at 


a  - 


LMP-EVA    Hasn't  filled  the  bottom  of  the  craters. 


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I'm  going  to  come  in  at  a  heading  here  and  see  if 
I  can  get  on  it  for  you. 

Ok^y,  drop  me  off  there. 

Look  at  that  fender .    Look  at  the  dust  it's 
produced.    Look  at  the  LCRU. 

Yes,  it's  going  to  make  -  - 

I  don't  know  how  to  keep  that  thing  on. 

Make  it  west. 

Okay,  I'm  rolling  west  right  now. 

That  looks  good.    That  looks  good.    Hold  that 
heading . 

Boy,  I  don't  like  losing  that  fender. 

We're  hack  at  the  SEP,  Boh.     I'm  starting  to  lay 
out  my  first  track. 

Roger.     Copy  that. 

How's  our  time.  Boh? 

Okay. 

Roger.    You're  about  5  minutes  behind  on  the  - 
the  arrival  time  at  the  SEP.    But  we're  -  we're  - 
No  real  problem.    And  I  assume  that  the  range  and 
bearing,  when  you  got  there,  was  about  zero. 

Okay,  get  -  Let  me  leave  my  camera. 

Well,  let  me  read  it.     252,  2.5,  and  0.  I'm 
resetting. 

Okay.    Copy  that. 

And  the  LMP  frame  count  is  19  -  19T,  and  it  was 
still  turning. 

Amp-hours  are  IO8  105 ,  and  batteries  are  100  and 
120. 


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CC  Okay.    Copy  100  and  120- 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Oh,  wait  a  minute.    I  need  my  camera,  don't 
I? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  I  don't  think  it's  much  good  to  you  with  a  197 

there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA   Ko,  I  don't.    I  don't  need  my  camera. 

CC  Roger  on  that . 

LMP-EVA    We're  deploying  it.    No,  you  take  the  pictures. 
I  don't  need  it.    Go  ahead,  play  it  out. 

CDH-EVA    Okay;  you're  right.    Okay,  here  we  go.  I'm 
headed  out . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston,    The  location  is  in  ahout  the  least 
cratered  area  I  could  find,  between  a  large  crater 
or  a  large  depression  that's  ahout  -  oh,  ranges 
from  mayhe  50  to  150  meters  hehind  the  LM.  That's 
maybe  -  south  -  or  east-southeast;  and  it's  between 
that  depression  and  another  large  depression  that 
is  really  a  doublet  with  a  blocky  septum  between 
them.    That's  to  the  northeast  of  the  LM  about 
200  meters;  that's  the  start  of  that  second 
depression.     I  think  we  can  get  a  nice  layout, 
although  there'll  be  a  general  slope,  I  believe, 
towards  the  LM  -  of  about  1  degree. 

CC  Okay,  that's  no  real  problem,  Jack.    No  problem. 

Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  am  I  about  abeam  of  you?    I  can't  see. 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  turn  in  around  this  crater. 
LMP-EVA    Hey,  if  you  come  right  - 

LMP-EVA    That  depression  to  the  northeast  is  at  least  a 

couple  hundred  meters  in  diameter,  and  it's  Joined 
with  one  that's  probably  of  comparable  size  Just 
to  the  northwest  of  the  first  depression. 


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CC  Okay,  I  copiy-  that  too.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    How's  that  look.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Great . 

CDR-EVA  Far  enough? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.     Yes,  come  hack. 

CDR-EVA  ...  we  head  on  up  to  station  2  without  that  fender 
and  are  we  going  to  be  full  of  dust. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  there's  no  special  - 

CDR-EVA  I  can  park  180  but  - 

05  00  lit  03    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  I've  stopped  -  back  at  the  SEP. 

CC  Copy  that ,  Gene . 

CDR-EVA  Dropped  tlie  -  One  came  out.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes.    This  thing  is  a  lot  harder  to  turn  than 
it  was  in  training. 

CDR-EVA    Oops.    Okay,  that's  the  first  two  we've  got  to 
deploy.     Can  you  bring  your  tongs? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  do  you  want  me  to  dust  this?     I'll  dust 

b  ack  at  the  LM .    We ' re  going  to  deploy  the  SEP . 
God  bless. 

CC  Okay.    They  all  say  to  dust,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    You're  going  to  have  to  wait  for  me.  Jack, 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I've  got  antennas  all  over  the  place  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  you  do.    Stand  by  1  sec- 
ond.    I'll  make  it  a  quick  one. 

LMP-EVA    That's  all  right.     No,  I  can  handle  it,  I  think,  here. 
But  we're  going  to  need  your  tongs  to  pick  them  up 
and  not  get  them  all  confused.    Okay,  Where's  the 
shadow  graph?    There  it  is.    Sun  quadrant  -  that's 
the  Sun  quadrant , 


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CDR-EVA    For  sure  we  lost  that  fender. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'll  deploy  nuinber  2  and  h.    And,  let's  see, 
that's  number  1.    This  one  must  be  nmber  2.    It  is, 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  almost  there.  Jack.     Let  me  run  around 
and  dust.    Let  me  tell  j^ou,  this  dust  isn't  going 
to  be  fun  tomorrow. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  I  won't  bore  you  with  details  on  why  you 
see  the  antenna  all  over  the  ground  (laughter) 
but  it  has  to  do  with  1/6  g. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    Understand  you  dropped  a  couple  of 

the  antenna  reels . 

LMP-EVA    You  know.  Bob,  they're  very  -  more  accurately,  I 
dropped  three  of  them.    Bob,  you  know  this  fine- 
grained dust  that  we're  in  could  be  groundup 
pyroclastic.    It  might  grind  more  easily  than 
other  things,  and  the  blocks  are  just  the  -  those 
blocks  that  have  been  excavated  from  below  that 
pyroclastic  by  the  larger  craters  and  some  of  the 
smaller  ones  in  the  area. 

05  00  17  U6    CDR-EVA    MARK,  gravimeter  reading. 

CC  Okay;  mark  that.    Roger,  Jack.    That  would  make  a 

nice  story,  wouldn't  it? 

LMP-EVA    ...    Well,  you'd  think  glassy  pyroclastic  might 
turn  into  regolith  a  little  bit  faster  than  some 
of  these  other  things.    But  we'll  check  that  one 
out. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    You  want  2? 

LMP-EVA    Two,  and  you  get  1.    Right  there. 

CC  And,  Jack,  did  you  get  the  reels  straightened  out 

again? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  they're  okay. 


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CC  Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    How  can  you  stop  a  crew  like  this? 
CC  I  don't  know  any  way. 

LMP-EVA    In  all  modesty,  I  mean.     Okay,  Geno,  I 'm  on  my  way. 
Pull  gently  on  that  thing  "because  I  -  it's  awful 
easy  to  knock  it  over.    I  had  that  geophone  modiile 
all  over  the  place. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  tell  whether  I'm  pulling  gently  or  not. 

LMP-EVA    Any  time  you  feel  a  tug,  stop. 

CC  Careful,  guys. 

CDR-EVA    At  least  we're  pulling  at  the  hase.     I  better  watch 
what  I'm  backing  into.    There's  a  lot  of  holes 
around  here . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it  happened.  Bob.    I'm  glad  we  Velcroed 
those  -  tabs. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  at  the  end.  Jack.    Are  you  having  - 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  -  What  happened  was  which  we  thought  might 
happen.     It  twisted  on  my  -  I'll  be  there  in  Just 
a  second. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  want  f/ll  at  250  and  jh  feet.    Well  -  ah, 
ah,  ah,  ah.    Ah,  ah,  yes;  you're  pulling  it  over. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not.    You  are. 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  not.    I've  got  all  sorts  of  slack  in  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  it's  okay. 

CDR-EVA    All  right.    Are  you  out  there? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  back  up  -  a  skosh  and  take  the  slack 

out.    And  I  would  say,  offhand  -  Oh,  boy,  what  have 
you  got  a  -  that's  about  as  close  to  a  1/6-g 
orthogonal  -  at  least ,  not  orthogonal  yet ,  but 
straight  lined.    That's  it  Jack,  here. 


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Stay  there,  and  I'll  take  a  picture. 

I  thought  you  did. 

Wo.    Okay,  I  got  it  now. 

Hey,  if  you  try  and  stick  that  thing  in.  Jack, 
you're  going  to  fall  over.    Just  set  it  down,  and 
we'll  stay  away  from  it. 

Yes.    You  talked  me  into  it. 

That  was  a  good  idea,  but  -  that's  a  good  straight 
line. 

(Singing)  We  were  strolling  in  the  park  one  day  - 
Well,  we've  had  lots  of  good  ideas  in  our  time. 

Oh,  boy;  the  thing  that  makes  me  sick  is  losing 
that  fender.    I  can  stand  a  lot  of  things,  but  I 
sure  don't  like  that. 

Okay,  I  get  number  U ,  which  -  Where  is  it? 
Is  that  the  one  on  the  ground? 

It's  probably  the  one  on  the  ground.     Got  it? 
Is  that  the  right  one? 

Well,  3  -  No,  this  is  yours. 

No.    Take  it;  doesn't  maJie  any  difference. 

Okay,  I'm  deploying  the  -  the  LMP's  deploying 
reel  3  for  your  photography  purposes. 

Roger.     Copy  that. 

Oh,  -  Hey,  push  that  in. 

Roger . 

Ha,  ha,  ha.    Ha,  ha,  ha. 

Serves  you  right . 
This  doesn't  push. 


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CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  ready  to  stroll. 

LMP-EVA    {Humming)     I  found  a  loro-wn  rock  that  I'm  going  to 
bring  back. 

CDR-EVA    Please  do. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  it's  the  back  side  of  a  piece  of  glass, 
but  it's  brown. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  think  I'm  more  or  less  on  your  track.  It 
wiggled  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  we're  -  Oh,  oh,  oh,  ooh,  stop,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  wait  a  minute.    That  looks  orthagonal 
to  me.    Got  your  picture? 

LMP-EVA    Will  have  in  a  sec.    Wait  a  minute.    Every  time  1 
do  something,  I  change  the  setting.    Okay,  I  got 
it.    I  straightened  the  line  out  a  little  bit 
better  after  I  took  the  picture  -  a  few  kinks  in 
it.    Now  Where's  my  brown  rock?    I  saw  it  when  I 
was  driving  with  the  Rover.     I  knew  I'd  be  able 
to  come  back  here  because  of  the  tracks.  Looks 
like  an  old  piece  of  bread. 

CC  Is  that  the  one  that  came  out  of  the  hatch? 

CDR-EVA    ...  the  heck  is  that?    Huh?    Oh,  it's  a  piece  of  - 
Well,  it's  a  piece  of  glass,  all  right  -  crumbled  - 
part  of  it  crumbled  but  -  I  got  to  get  that  in  a 
bag.     Oh,  man,  is  that  a  nice  piece  of  glass. 
Just  laying  out  there  all  by  itself.    Jack,  well  - 
you  got  a  bag  handy  while  I  take  my  pan.     I  can't 
reach  a  bag;  I  got  this  sample  in  the  wrong  hand. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  have  a  bag. 

CDR-EVA    You  don't  have  -  well,  take  one  off  of  mine  and 
give  it  to  me.    I'll  take  it  back  to  the  Rover. 
Wa,  wa,  wa!    Watch  itj  you've  got  a  wire  under  your 
foot. 


LMP-EVA 


Bag  number  h60 . 


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CC  Copy  that .    U6o  has  brown  glass . 

CDR-EVA    I'm  halfway  out  on  the  north  coiirse  -  - 
CC  Sorry  about  that. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  halfway  out  on  the  north  course  of  the  - 

of  the  SEP. 

LMP-EVA    It's  brown  vesicular  glass.     Sort  of  a  yellow-brown, 
as  a  matter  of  fact, 

05  00  26  01    CDR-EVA    Okay,  it  says  -  take  locator  photo  to  LM.     I  thought 

I  took  a  pan  here.    The  LM  wasn't  -  Okay. 

CC  Yes,  the  locator  is  really  all  you  need;  but  a 

partial  pan  to  show  the  eirea  would  be  appreciated. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  here.     I'm  going  to  get  a  partial  pan. 
Bob. 

CC  Ok^. 

CDR-EVA    The  only  reason  I'm  doing  it  is  I  know  it  would  be 
appreciated. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  take  locator  to  photo  LM;  I  got  it.  Bob, 
I'm  on  -  if  I  can  get  where  I  can  read  it  -  on 
about  Tl  on  my  frame  count;  and  let  me  give  you  - 
Boy,  we  got  to  stay  out  of  this  area.  Jack.  We'll 
pick  up  these  cables  Just  as  sure  as  the  devil. 
Oh,  that  fender.    Boo  -  boo. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  Houston,  will  you  look  at  yoTir  solar  panel? 

CC  Roger.    We  see  the  solar  panel. 

LMP-EVA  You  notice  how  they  flop  up? 

CC  We  noticed  that,  too. 

LMP-EVA  I  think  we  need  some  gray  tape. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  67O,  010,  101;  that's  6T0 ,  010,  101. 

CC  Okay,  I  got  that  one,  Geno . 


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CDR-EVA    The  wires  have  memory.    Okay,  let  me   

LMP-EVA    I  need  gray  tape. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  put  this  in  your  "bag,  and  I'll  get  the 
gray  tape. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  we  didn't  break  any  records  collecting 

samples,  hut  at  least  we  got  an  ALSEP  deployed. 
That  gray  tape.  Jack,  is  not  going  to  stick  on 
anything  with  dust. 

LMP-EVA    I  know;  that's  what  I  was  thinking. 

CDR-EVA    Because  I  just  been  there  with  that  fender. 

LMP-EVA   Well,  let's  tiy  it.    You  have  a  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  need  the  scissors.    I  can  cut  it  without 
it.    Come  on.    Once  we  -  Don't  back  up  in  that 
wire  -  Just  like  the  cover  of  a  - 

LMP-EVA  Got  it? 

CDR-EVA  . . .  that? 

LNBP-EVA  Yes,  I  guess.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Get  this  side? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Keep  from  falling  over.     You  want  to  take  those 
polar  -  solar  panels  off? 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  hold  on  to  you. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  lean  on  me. 

CDR-EVA  If  not,  let's  take  them  off  and  hold  them. 

LMP-EVA  No,  I  think  it's  going  to  be  easier  this  way. 


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Okay,  try  it.     I  don't  think  they're  going  to  be 
imich  problem  the  way  they  are,  ar^yvay. 

You  holding? 

Yes ,  go  ahead  and  lean  if  you  want . 
I  don't  know  how  long  it  will  stay. 
No,  I  don't  know.    Okay,  there's  one. 
Give  me  another  one . 

It's  only  going  to  stay  for  2  days,  guys. 
. . .  pull  the  whole  thing  over . 

This  will  be  a  -  this  will  be  a  test.  If  it  holds 
holds  until  we  see  it  again  - 

...    Don't  knock  the  whole  thing  over. 

Okay,  I'm  leaning  on  you. 

Okay,  lean. 

The  piece  of  tape  is  so  dusty  -  it  may  not  work. 

Try  it  somewhere.     Okay,  are  you  happy  with  the 
alignment? 

I  was.     Is  the  gnomon  the  zero  mark? 
Gnomon  is  right  up  to  zero  mark. 
That's  where  it's  supposed  to  be. 

Okay,  and  the  level  bubble  is  just  touching  the  - 
the  inner  circle. 

Okay,  copy  that.    And  we  have  that  transmitter 
switch  in  STANDBY,  right? 

Bob,  there's  just  a  couple  little  bows  around  the 
transmitter,  is  that  - 


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LMP-EVA    It  will  "be  - 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  those  are  all  right  -  those  are  okay. 
LMP-EVA    Let's  forget  those. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  looking  where  the  LM  is,  if  I  were  you,  I'd 
just  walk  down. 

LMP-EVA  Come  here.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  What  do  you  need? 

LMP-EVA  I  need  same  support . 

CDR-EVA  Yes;  boy,  that's  the  key  aro\ind  here. 

LMP-EVA    Everything  on  this  SEP  is  coming  off  harder  than 
it  did  in  the  -  when  we  deployed  it  at  the  Cape. 
See  that?    It  Just  ...     It  may  not  he  harder,  but 
it  ... 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Now,  I  got  to  reorient  it. 

CDR-EVA    How,  let  me  see.    You're  STANDBY  -  now  let  me  look 
at  it  -  The  gnomon's  right  at  zero. 

MP-EVA    Okay,  right  at  zero. 

CDR-EVA    It's  just  the  same  -  it  settled  back  Just  the  same. 
Zero  gnomon  and  inner  circle. 

CC  Okay;  beautiful. 

LMP-EVA  Let's  go. 

CMP-EVA  You  want  to  walk  back  or  ride? 

LMP-EVA  Let's  see  - 

CDR-EVA  It's  up  to  you  but  - 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  I'll  walk  back. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  I  hate  this  dust.    I  got  to  make  a  new  fender 
tonight . 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  see,  I  guess  I'm  supposed  to  - 

CC  Hey,  Gene,  I  presume  that  the  fender  that  came  off 

is  the  fender  that  came  off  before,  right? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  same  one.    VSy  tape  didn't  hold;  it  was  too 
dusty. 

CC  All  right. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  watch  out  for  this  antenna  line  I  found  out 
here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Okay,  travel  to  LM.    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  not 

going  to  change  anything  right  now  except  get  in 
and  travel.    All  right? 

CC  That's  affirm.    Time  to  go  home. 

LMP-EVA    How's  our  time.  Boh? 

CC  You'll  have  a  nominal  closeout,  guys,  as  soon  as 

you  get  hack.    We're  right  about  on  the  time 
that  we've  been  figuring  on  for  you  guys  to  get 
back  there  on.    Right  now,  you  are  6  hours  and 
11  minutes  into  the  EVA. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  here's  a  big  boulder. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  I  discovered  something  -  I  learned  a  lot 
today,  let  me  tell  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you're  going  to  lose  TV  because  the  high 

gain  is  going  to  be  out  of  whack  here  in  a  minute. 

05  DO  33  39    LMP-EVA    Hey,  I  got  a  football-size  rock  of  this  vesicular 

coarsely  vesicular  gabbro ,  Bob.    It's  off  a  large 
3_  to  U-meter  buried  boulder  to  the  north  - 
oh,  let's  say,  northeast  of  the  LM  about  30  meters 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  read.  Bob? 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Read  you  loud  and  clear  on  that  one. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay.     It'll  be  in  the  big  bag. 


Tape  8IA/32 


CC  Okay,  ... 

LMP-EVA    Undocumented,  it's  about  -  it's  roughly  tabular  - 
15  by  25  centimeters  and  about  5  to  7  centimeters 
thick.    One  -  one  face  is  very  flat;  looks  like  it 
was  off  of  a  parting  plane,  which  were  in  that  rock. 

CC  Okay,  and  if  it  fits  in  the  SRC  with  all  the  other 

samples,  you  might  put  it  there  because  the  SRC's 
going  to  be  kind  of  empty. 

CDR-EVA    Got  any  new  parking  angles  for  your  batteries  or 
anything? 

CC  No,  it  will  be  a  heading  of  013,  which  is  hardly 

a  change  at  nil  from  the  012  in  the  checklist, 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  buy  that. 

CC  Jack,  did  you  copy  my  comments  about  putting 

that  thing  in  the  SRC  perhaps? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it  was  pretty  big.    It's  in  the  big  bag  now. 
We  can  do  that. 

CC  Well,  I'd  get'the  other  samples  -  the  small  ones 

and  partictilarly  soils  in  the  SRC  first. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Are  you  through? 

LMP-EVA    No,  I'm  going  right  -  right  about  here.    Now  I'm 
done . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Right  there. 

05  00  36  15    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  O86,  0. 5,  0 .1,  IO8  -  Oh  -  oh,  102. 

LMP-EVA  Stand  by  1 . 


CDR-EVA 


Amp-hours  are  at  108,  102;  volts  are  ih  and  75. 
Batteries  are  IO8  and  123.    Motors  are  all  off 
scale  low,  all  four  of  them. 


Tape  81A/33 


CC  Roger,  Gene.    Understand  108,  102  on  the  amp-hours, 

huh? 

CDR-EVA    That's  affirm;  108  and  102. 
CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  read  this  thing,  "because  it's  full  of  dust, 
so  I've  got  to  get  off  and  dust  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  SEP  receiver  temp  is  1^5,  ^5- 

CC  Copy  U5.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    You  know,  I  think  they  left  some  Velcro  off  of 

this  thing.  Gene.  There's  no  Velcro  holding  those 
flaps  down. 

CDR-EVA    Isn't  there? 

LMP-EVA    No . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,    I  've  got  to  get  the  "brush  and  dust  that 
thing  -  a  minute  or  2. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  ...  get  the  high  gain. 

CDR-EVA    I  feel  like  taking  some  core  tubes  tomorrow. 

CC  I  have  a  feeling  you've  got  a  couple  left  over, 

don't  you? 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  you  got  - 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  you  got  the  high  gain? 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CDR-EVA  Is  that  -  is  that  my  bag.  Jack,  you  got? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  That's  pretty  good. 


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CC  Okay,  let's  put  all  the  stuff  In  that  bag.  Jack  - 

"both  the  stuff  that's  In  yours  and  the  stuff  that's 
in  Gene's . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     . . .    Samples  -  two  samples  from  under  the 
LMP's  seat. 

CDR-EVA    Put  these  under  the  seat.     Clean  you  up  here  while 
I'm  at  it.    Oh,  man,  I  tell  you,  it's  going  to  take 
us  half  -  a  dozen  Sundays  to  dust.    Look  at  that 
fender;  that's  terrible. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you  want  to  get  my  bag  off? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    If  you're  ready. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  to  put  your  -  those  samples  in  the  SRC, 
in  your  bag;  ajid  we'll  save  this  one,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute.    Let  me  clean  you  up. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  get  me  cleaned  up? 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  you've  lost  your  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute. 
LMP-EVA    -  -  your  strap  though,  here. 

CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute,  now,  ...    Okay,  you  get  my  hook  back 
up  over  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  -  my  -  turn  around.    Your  hook's  up,  but  I'm 
not  sure  I  closed  yoiir  -  your  other  one.    Take  a 
look  at  it.    Yes,  it's  all  closed.    Okay,  you're 
good.    There  you  go. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you're  filling  which  bag,  the  - 

LMP-EVA    Putting  them  in  the  bag  that  goes  into  the  SRC  - 

CDR-EVA    That's  SRC  -  SCB  1. 


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CC  Roger . 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  let's  see,  offload  LM  -  PLSS  -  core  cap 

dispenser  tools.    Okay,  as  soon  as  you  get  that, 
I'll  take  that  SCB  1  from  you,  and  I'll  close  the 
SRC  1. 

CC  Okay;  and  I  gather  you  didn't  have  any  Rover 

samples  today,  did  you.  Jack? 

CDR-EVA    I've  still  got  my  tongs  here.    I  got   

LMP-EVA    No,  I  have  one  sample  bag  in  my  pocket  that  has  a 
rock  in  it. 

CC  We'll  have  to  take  that  out  when  we  get  in  the 

Rover,  I  assume. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Gene,  where 's  that  -  you  want  to  put  that 
little  rock? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  is  it  there? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  what  did  you  do  with  it? 

CDR-EVA  It  was  on  the  floor  on  my  side. 

LMP-EVA  Your  side? 

CDR-EVA  There  it  is ;  let  me  get  it . 

LMP-EVA  We  can  put  that  in  one  of  the  core  tube  slots  here. 

05  00  Us  02    CDR-EVA    Boy,  that  one  fender  just  -  just  is  an  order  of 

magnitude  more  of  a  dust  problem.    Here  can  you 
reach  it? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  rock  that  Gene  picked  up  -  early  -  right 
at  the  start,  is  in  a  core  tube  slot  in  the  SRC  1. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Gene,  you  want  this  one? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  want  the  full  one. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  Latched. 


Tape  8IA/36 


CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  that's  sOmost  full  of  samples,  and  I  think 

that  hig  rock  would  be  -  probably  wouldn't  fit  in 
there . 


CC 


Okay,  then  ve  Ml  put  that  in  the  big  bag. 


LMP-EVA    It's  in  the  big  bag. 


CC 


Good  enough.  And  I  gather  there's  no  Rover  samples 
today,  right? 


CDR-EVA    Okay  -  No  Rover  samples;  sorry. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  seal  is  clear,  like  I  promised  I'd  make 
it,  coming  over  the  top.    Bob,  the  seal  is  clear. 

CC  Beautifta. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  if  it's  beautiful,  but  it's  clear. 
CC  It's  clearly  beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  okay,  that  big  mamou  is  locked.     I  got  a  lot 
of  oxygen.    I  still  got  22  percent. 

LMP-EVA    I  expect  our  feedwater  may  be  getting  a  little  low. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  leave  this  right  here  until  I  take  it 
up  to  you.     Okay,  close  ...  verify  good  seal,  place 
in  plus-Z.     Okay,  LRV  circuit  breakers:     LRV  LCRU 
power  OFF.    Dust  -  well,  let  me  get  at  that  dusting 
first . 

LMP-EVA    Give  me  a  yell  when  you  need  a  spell  there. 
CDR-EVA   What,  dusting? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA   Well,  I  need  a  fender,  that's  what  I  need.  Figure 
out  something  we  can  make  a  fender  with. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  one  of  the  others  that's  not  as  critical? 


Tape  8IA/37 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  I  -wouldn't  ever  take  one  of  those  off. 

You  know»  getting  it  -  I  had  one  to  put  on  and 
it  didn't  stay,  which  is  what  I  figured. 

LMP-EVA    I  thought  you  said  it  was  broken,  though? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it  was.    But  these  aren't  supposed  to  come 
off,  either,  unless  you  break  them.     I  broke  that 
one.    iiy  hammer  got  caught  underneath  it.  It 
wasn't  the  fender's  fa\ilt. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  core  tube  is  packed. 

LMP-EVA    Every  time  I  read  containment  bag,  it  fools  me;  I 
can't  figure  out  what  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    Every  time  what? 
LMP-EVA    I  read  containment  bag. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)    You've  been  thinking  of  the  other  kind 
too  long.    You've  been  living  in  the  command  module 
too  long. 

CDR-EVA    That's  a  pretty  good  day's  workout,  you  know.  You 
know,  I  don't  think  we  need  an  exercise  period. 
We  get  back  in  there.    I  don't  think  we  have  to 
apologize  to  anybody.    I'm  sorry  we  didn't  get 
out  to  station  1.    One  of  the  main  reasons  is,  I 
think,  we  could  have  got  our  navigation  bearings 
a  little  bit  better. 

LMP-EVA   Well,  I'll  tell  you.    That  new  ALSEP  had  more  to  it 
than  met  the  eye . 

CDR-EVA    This  hole  out  here  -  you  know,  this  is  Just  such  an 
easy  site  to  find  out  and  to  identify  yoiirself  on 
and  to  land  in.    But,  I  tell  you,  all  of  a  sudden 
there  is  so  memy  local  holes  that  I  can't  think 
big  enough. 

LMP-EVA    Does  that  sound  familiar? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  ...  rest  of  my  dusting  until   


LMP-EVA    Am  I  in  your  way? 


Tape  8IA/38 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'd  like  to  get  over  there  to  get  the  -  this 
last  tattery  cover.    I  can.    That's  good  enough. 
I  can  get  over  there  now.    I  want  to  make  sure 
these  things  stay  clean  because  I  don't  want  to 
walk. 

LMP-EVA    I  agree.    Okay,  Bob,  containment  bags  and  two 
cameras  are  stowed  in  the  ETB. 

CC  Copy  that.    And  don't  forget  the  scissors,  guys. 

LMP-EVA  Don't  worry.     I've  got  them  right  here. 

CC  Beautiful  -  don't  want  to  go  hungry. 

LMP-EVA  It's  a  good  call,  Bob.    That's  right. 

CC  And,  Jack,  give  me  your  consideration  -  or  Gene  - 

on  that  question  of  bringing  back  the  big  bag  into 
the  cabin.    The  people  down  here  are  saying  they 
want  to  bring  it  in,  and  then  we'd  end  up  bringing 
it  back  out  in  the  second  EVA.    What  do  you  guys 
think  about  that? 

05  00  iij  23    LMP-EVA    That's  all  right;  we  can  do  that. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  can  do  that  -  I  guess  Just  because  that 
rock's  in  there,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    I'd  like  to  do  that  -  look  at  that  rock  with  the 
hajidle  in  it. 

CC  All  right;  so  then  we'd  be  taking  it  back  out  in 

the  second  EVA,  if  you  giyrs  are  agreeable  to  that. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  we'll  do  that.  Bob. 

CC  And,  Jack,  do  you  think  it'll  go  in  the  SCB? 

LMP-EVA  Say  again. 

CC  Do  you  think  it'll  go  in  the  SCB  number  2? 

LMP-EVA  What  would  -  the  bock  -  the  rock? 

CC  Yes,  that's  right. 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  it'll  go  in  there.     It's  not  that  big. 

CC  Okay,  why  don't  you  put  it  in  SCB  -  why  don't  you 

put  it  in  SCB  2  and  hring  that  in,  instead.  Leave 
SRB  out,  and  then  we'll  just  leave  SCB  2  in  forever. 


L^4P-EVA  Okay. 

05  GO  U8  18    CDR-EVA    Ok^,  verify  SRC  plus-Z  pad.    What  are  those  things 

going  over?    What  is  that.  Jack?    Hey,  something 
just  hit  here!    What  blew?    Hey,  what  is  that? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  your  antenna  -  your  -  it's  that  styrofoam  off 
the  high-gain  antenna  package. 


CDR-EVA    On  the  LM? 


LMP-EVA    No,  the  one  you  deployed.    The  Rover  high-gain 
antenna. 


CDR-EVA    My  gosh,  it  blew  up! 
LMP-EVA    Yes , 

CDR-EVA    I  thought  we'd  been  hit  by  a  -  by  a  -  Look  at  that 
stuff  just  keeps  flying  over  the  top  of  our  heads. 
I  thought  we  were  the  closest  witnesses  to  a  lunar 
meteor  impact.    I  wonder  if  . . .  that's  the  same  glass 
I  picked  up? 


LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  don't  know. 

CC  John  says  it  blew  up  on  his  mission  too,  guys. 

LMP-EVA    Isn't  that  what  you  thought  it  was?     Isn't  that  what 
you  thought  it  was?    Huh?    I  thought  you  were 
kidding. 


CDR-EVA    Ho,  I've  never  seen  that  before. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I'm  sorry.     I  thought  that  was  - 

CDR-EVA    No  -  you  just  -  you  just  -  Well,  you  saw  that  stuff 
coming.    I  didn't  see  that  at  all.    Holy  Smoly! 


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CC  Roger,  17.    And  John  says  that  it  blev  up  on  his 

mission,  as  well. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  guess  I'm  going  to  take  the  TV  away 
from  you. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  one  thing  we'd  like  before  you 

guys  leave  the  Rov  -  - 

CDR-EVA     . . . 

  one  thing  we'd  like  before  you  guys  leave  the 

Rover  is  a  fairly  good  description  of  what  happened 
to  the  rear  fender  when  it  came  off.  Is  the  damage 
primarily  to  the  piece  that  you've  lost,  or  are  the 
rails  on  the  pieces  remaining  fairly  bad? 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Mag  -  - 

CDR-EVA    -  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Romeo. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  a  piece  of  the  rail  on  the  -  on  the  aft  -  aft 
inboard  side  here  -  the  rail  isn't  missing  -  it's 
just  a  piece  of  the  flange  -  the  rail  that  fits 
against  the  fender  -  but  that  doesn't  hold  any  part 
of  the  fender  on.    I  don't  remember  what  I  saw  on 
the  fender  -  The  rails  look  pretty  good.  Bob.  And 
I  had  one  of  them  completely  on,  and  I  Just  couldn't 
get  the  other  one  on.    If  I  had  known  what  that  dust 
was,  I  would  have  tried  an  awful  lot  harder. 

CC  Okay,  do  you  have  any  feeling  that  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  heard  John  telling  me,  but   

CC  Do  you  have  any  feeling  that  you  coxild  get  away 

with  putting  a  front  fender  on? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  have  done  it  before,  but  it's  not  easy. 

CC  Okay,  as  far  as  you  can  tell,  so  that  we  can  look 

at  it  over  night,  the  rear  fender  -  the  part  that's 
remaining  -  looks  in  fairly  good  shape,  right? 


Tape  8IA/U1 


CDR-EVA    Let  me  take  a  good  look  at  it.     Yes,  the  part  you 
need,  I  think,  to  hold  that  fender  on  - 

LMP-EVA    Let's  see  -  we  better  take  those  dusthrushes  up 
there . 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  there's  eno\igh  here  to  hold  the  fender  on. 
Boh, 

CC  Okay,  we'll  take  a  look  at  it  here  while  you're 

sleeping. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  get  some  hreakers  here.    LRV  breakers 
Alfa,  Bravo,  Charlie,  and  Delta. 

LMP-EVA    Boh,  while  you  were  talking,  I  got  all  the  mags  - 
Romeo,  Alfa,  Bravo,  Charlie. 

CC  Hotel .    Hotel . 

LMP-EVA  That's  on  a  magazine.    That's  on  our  camera. 

CC  Okay.     Got  you  on  that  one;  you're  right. 

LMP-EVA  Is  it  not? 

CC  You're  right;  my  fault  -  you've  got  the  maps,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  need  those  maps.  Gene.     Could  you  hand  me 
the  maps? 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know.    Pretty  good  clip,  splitting  apart 
a  hit,  too,  aren't  they? 

LMP-EVA    Getting  hot. 

CDR-EVA    This  thing  keeps  falling  out  of  your  clip,  in  case 
you're  interested,  or  I  keep  knocking  it.  out. 

LMP-EVA    Put  it  down  here.     Okay,  I've  got  the  maps,  the 
500  mag,  yes  -  and  the  three  -  two  cameras. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  have  to  get  the  contamination  hags, 

too ,  there . 

CDR-EVA  Huh? 


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LMP-EVA    Say  that  again.  Bob. 

CC  Roger,    We've  got  the  contamination  bags  to  get 

too  -  out  of  the  MESA.  ' 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  them. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Mentioned  that  earlier. 

CC  Sorry  about  that. 

LMP-EVA    They're  in  there. 

CC  Okay;  do  you  know  when  you're  brushing  LCRU,  we'd 

like  the  blankets  left  at  100  percent  rather  than 
65  percent  -  we'd  like  them  all  left  open;  and 
it's  been  a  little  warm,  also. 

05  00  53  56    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I've  already  dusted  everything.    And  it 

all  looks  pretty  good.    The  bay  -  the  breakers 
are  OPEN;  the  LCRU  power  is  OFF     ...     Where  do 
you  want  the  TV  camera?    Do  you  want  it  tilted  down 
and  aft? 


CC 


Roger.  Down  and  away  from  the  Sun,  like  we  talked 
about.    Think  that's  what  you  mean  by  aft. 


CDR-EVA    That's  what  I  thought.    Okay.    It's  down  -  yes 
it's  there.  ' 


CC 


Okay;  can  you  confirm  that  that's  100  percent  on 
the  LCRU  blanket  rather  than  65  percent  as  per 
the  checklist? 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  I  sure  can. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  opening  all  the  battery  covers.  The 
batteries  are  not  dirty.    I've  been  dusting  the 
covers  every  stop. 

CC  Okay;  good. 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  through  -  are  you  through  with  the  SRC? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  just  left  it  there. 


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LMP-EVA    I've  got  to  get  to  the  table. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  "batteries  look  pretty  good.    Bob,  you  got 
you  got  -  The  left-hand  forward  reflector  on  the 
batteries  is  about  10  percent  in  shade.    The  others 
are  in  the  Sun.    Is  that  what  you  want? 

CC  Stand  by.    Okay;  that  sounds  right,  they  say. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  LCRU  has  been  dusted;  everything  is 

dusted.    Our  blajokets  are  open  100  percent.  ... 
I'll  check.    Battery  covers,  open;  LCRU  blanket 
is  open  100  percent;  samples  off.    You  got  them 
all  off.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    And  anything  else?    Let  me  look  around.    I  got 
to  get  the  TGE. 

LMP-EVA    Check  it  one  more  time. 

CDR-EVA    Samples  off;  let's  look  under  here.  There's 

nothing  \mder  here.    This  bag  is  empty.  Those 
are  sample  bags. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  we  do  not  bring  up  the  LM  ECS  canister. 
Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  correct,  IT- 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And,  Jack,  confirm  you  have  the  scissors  in  the 

ETB .    Roger . 

LMP-EVA    Just  a  second.     (Laughter)    Yes,  sir.    Thank  you, 
again . 

CDR-EVA    Okay ,  ...  the  old  blanket . 

05  00  56  39    LMP-EVA    Okay,  that  pin's  green;  that  pin's  green.  Both 

pins  are  green. 

CC  Copy  that. 


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CDR-EVA    Boy,  that's  dirty. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Okay,  I'll  take  some  stuff  up.     SCB  2,  we 
don't  have.    Oh,  wait  a  minute.    What  did  we 
decide  to  do  -  - 

CC  SCB  2  for  the  big  rock  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Put  that  big  rock  in  the  -  Oh,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    How's  our  time.  Bob? 

CC  No  problem  on  time. 

LMP-EVA    A  little  in  on  those  . . .     Can  I  sneak  in  and 
get  a  bag? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    See  you  later.  Rover. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  SEP  blankets  are  open;  it  is  dusted. 

Okay,  and  I  verify  that  the  DSEA  is  OFF,  and  the 
power's  OFF. 

CC  Copy  that.  Gene;  thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  want  the  TGE,  right  side  of  the  MESA, 
but  in  the  shade.  Okay. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  did  it  get  covered  with  dust,  too. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  no  trouble  with  the  TGE  in  the  TV,  huh? 

CC  None  so  we  can  tell.    We'll  get  another  reading 

here  when  we  see  it  on  the  ground  here. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  if  I  set  this  here,  we'll  -  Jack? 
LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  just  want  to  set  it  here  so  you  don't 
knock  it  over. 

LMP-EVA    tmat's  that? 


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CDR-EVA  The  TGE,  right  where  you  left  foot  is. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  well. 

CDR-EVA  I'm  afraid  we'll  knock  it  over  if  I  set  it  any- 
where else . 

LMP-EVA  Well,  stand  by;  I've  got  a  lot  of  stuff  here. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  You  should  have  volunteered  to  take  the  big  bag  in. 

CDR-EVA  Why?    You  having  trouble  getting  that  thing  in? 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  it's  just  ...    Yes,  I'm  having  trouble. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  here;  let  me  help  you. 

LMP-EVA  Hold  this  big  bag,  please. 

CDR-EVA  Just  don't  back  up  if  you  can  help  it. 

LMP-EVA    Hold  the  bag.    This  big  one,  this  one.    No,  the 
other  one,  the  other  one;  don't. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  . . . 

LMP-EVA    I  got  it.    That's  a  big  rock. 
CDR-EVA    ...  fit  there  is  long  ways. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  there  shotild  be  another  one  in  there.  Is 
there?    Feel  it,  squeeze  it,  hit  it. 

CDR-EVA     ...  the  box,  see  if  there's  any  in  there. 

LMP-EVA     . .  . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA   Well ,  let ' s  leave  it .     ...  let ' s  get  it  out .    Here , 
pick  it  up.    We'll  get  it  out. 

CDR-EVA    Hold  the  top. 


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05  01  00  39  LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 


05  01  01  18  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


Shake  it.    Well,  I  thought  there  was  one  in  there. 
I  don't  think  there's  anything  in  there. 
I  thought  I  put  one  in  there. 
Okay. 

Well,  I  guess  not.    If  I  did,  it's  gotten  out. 
Okay,  got  away. 

Okay,  I'm  going  to  leave  the  TGE  right  here.  I'll 
put  the  TGE  right  side  of  MESA.    Okay,  I  might 
give  them  a  gravimeter  reading,  believe  it  or  not. 
Boy,  I'll  tell  you,  the  only  thing  bad  about  put- 
ting this  thing  on  the  ground  -  it's  like  every- 
thing else  -  you  have  to  bend  over  to  get  at  it . 
And  you  need  support  to  get  back  up.  Okay. 

MARK,  gravimeter. 

Roger.  Mark. 

And  she's  flashing.  Bob. 

Thank  you. 

Okay,  I'm  supposed  to  take  this  and  the  core 
stem  bag  up  there. 

I'll  get  it  for  you. 

Can  you  get  the  core  stem  bag? 

Yes,  I'll  get  it  for  you. 

Okay,  you  got  a  core  stem  bag? 

Yes,  let  me  give  it  one  zap  with  the  brush. 

Okay.    I  didn't  mean  to  drop  that,  but  I  did. 

Yes,  we  got  to  -  we  got  to  keep  from  dropping 
everything.     I'll  tell  you,  the  big  lesson 
today  -  - 


Tape  8IA/I+7 


LMP-EVA  Dropped. 

CDR-EVA    Dropped,  I  guess, 

LMP-EVA    The  big  lessen  is  that  it's  going  to  get  dropped 
if  your  hands  get  tired. 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    . . .  come  down .     Got  it . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Me  see.     Okay,  the  TGE  is  reading.  We 
got  to  stow  our  antennas  and  . . .  dusting  down 
here.    I'll  make  a  check  of  what  you've  got  up 
there.    What  have  you  got  up  there  so  far? 

LMP-EVA   Just  the  SRC  2  and  the  core  steins. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  SRC  2  and  the  core  stems.    Okay.  Where's 
EVA  pallet? 

LMP-EVA    It's  on  the  MESA  table. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  good;  that's  ready.    Where's  ETB? 
That's  ready  to  go  up. 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  core  stem  bag,  SRC  2;  SRC  1  is  in  the  -  SCB 
is  in  SRC  1.     ...  It's  there.    Big  bag  is  not 
req.tiired.    Okay,  any  more  room  up  there?    If  not, 
why  don't  - 


LMP-EVA    Ho,  I  think   


CDR-EVA    Why  don't  I  dust  you  here, 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    This  rock  you  laid  it  on  here. 

CDR-EVA    Watch  your  foot;  you're  caught  in  that  thing. 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 


Tape  81AA8 


CDR-EVA    Pick  up  your  right  foot.    Jack,  you're  just  going 
to  have  to  get  up  on  that  ladder  somewhere  so  I 
don't  -  don't  get  the  dust  all  over  this  thing. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I've  got  to  dust  you,  too. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  okay.    Go  ahead  and  get  me. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  where 's  your  "brush? 

CDR-EVA  Right  on  the  hook. 

05  01  Ok  18    LMP-EVA    Right;  see  what  I  can  do.    Kick  most  of  it  off, 

I  hope . 

CDR-EVA    You  have  to  go  apywhere  else,  now? 

LMP-EVA    Just  right  around  here;  no  place  "but  right  around 
here.    Man!    That's  a  -  that's  like  a  super-endless 
task. 

CDR-EVA    Get  the  top  of  that  thing  if  you  can. 
LMP-EVA    Oop  -  oop.    It  landed  on  a  slope. 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    That's  good. 
CDR-EVA    About  the  arms? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  hold  them  up  and  shake  them,  too,  in  case 
there's  anything  down  in  them? 

CDR-EVA   Let  me  just  -  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  lower  so  you  can  get  at  me.  Okay, 

how's  that?    At  best,  it  is  going  to  be  bad  but 
we  want  to  get  as  much  off  as  we  can, 

CDR-EVA    How  about  this  one? 

LMP-EVA    Guess  I  can  come  around  on  the  other  side,  if 
you  want. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  can  hold  on  better  that  way. 


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LMP-EVA    Just  take  some  of  it  off. 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 
LMP-EVA    Hold  still. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  up  on  that  ladder  and  you  get  a  whack  at 
my  legs,  best  you  can.    And  I'll  kick  my  hoots 
clean. 

LMP-EVA   That  fender  is  really  going  to  he  a  nuisance. 
CDR-EVA    Mean  going? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  have  to  get  you  to  hend  over,  too, 
so  I  -  not  now.    Know  there's  a  lot  on  the  OPS. 

05  01  06  h5    CDR-EVA    I  Jiist  will  stow  -  my  antenna  while  you're 

up  there. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  hoy!    That's  really  putting  the  finishing 
touches  on  the  old  arms,  isn't  it? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    How'd  you  get  so  dirty? 

CDR-EVA    Wait  until  I  show  you  the  picture  I  took  of  you. 

LMP-EVA    Didn't.    Okay,  Gene.    Most  of  what's  left  is  up 
on  your  -  get  your  antenna.    Oh,  you're  going  to 
go  up  there,  first. 

CDR-EVA  You  want  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  I  don '  t  know  how  you  do  that . 

LMP-EVA  Just  -  Just  really  spring.    You  got  it.  Beautiful. 

05  01  07  UT    CC  Okay,  IT,  do  we  copy   

LMP-EVA  Okay. 


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CDR-EVA    Better  get  my  legs,  then  I'll  ... 
CC  -  -  both  antennas  up? 

CDR-EVA    No.    No,  sir.  Bob.    I'm  still  getting  dusted. 
We're  trying  to  go  over  this  thing  pretty 
thoroughly. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Pocket  is  fairly  full  of  dirt. 

LMP-EVA  Thiat  brush  does  pretty  good,  thoiagh. 

CDR-EVA  Want  me  to  move,  or  anything  now? 

LMP-EVA  No. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    I'm  Just  a  mess.    Course,  vhen  I  do  this, 
I  get  dirtier. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  01  08  3k    CDR-EVA    Once  I  get  you  this  far,  I'm  Just  going  to  shove 

you  on  up  that  ladder  and  not  let  you  get  in  the 
dust .    Whoo ! 


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05  01  07  38    CDR-EVA  Okay? 


LMP-EVA    No.    You're  not  okay.    You're  awful  dusty,  but 
I  don't  know  that  I  can  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  —  do  too  much  more. 

CDR-EVA  That  looks  pretty  good.     I'll  walk  - 

LMP-EVA  Hit  yovix  hoots  real  hard  when  you  come  up. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    I've  Just  got  to  stay  on  my  feet  here  for 
a  while. 

IMP-EVA    Want  me  to  - 

CDR-EVA    Stand  in  -  stand  in  the  pan^    Yes,     Stay  there 
and  I'll  get  your  hack  and  yoiar  PLSS  while  I'm 
at  it  -  to  start  with.    Stoop  down,  if  you  can. 
Stand  on  the  bottom  of  the  p  -  there  you  go. 

LMP-EVA    How's  the  old  ALSEP,  Bob? 

CC  It's  looking  great,  guys. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  forget.  Jack;  you'll  have  to  stow  my 
antenna  yet. 

LMP-EVA    Right . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  while  I'm  up  here  let  me  get  the  top  of 

your  OPS  and  I'll  stow  yoiir  ajitenna  at  the  same 
time . 

Cm-m  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    I  -  You're  going  to  have  to  get  further  down. 
I  can't  reach  you. 


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CDR-EVA    That's  good.     I  feel  like  I'm  praying.     I  guess 
I  am, 

LMP-EVA    Now,  maybe  I  can  get  some  dust  off  you,  if  you 
stay  there.     The  antenna  will  be  stowed  in  half 
of  a  jiff. 

05  01  10  ko    IM'-EVA    Oh,  my  fingers.    They  do  not  have  the  dexterity 

that  they  once  had. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

DIP-EVA    Make  sure  you  don't  have  anything  hanging  on  you. 
Wait  a  minute. 

IWP-EVA    Okay.     You  can  stand  up.    I'll  work  on  your  arras. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  come  around  that  side  and  get  the  other  one. 
No,  maybe  I  won't  either.    Maybe  I'll  get  it  - 
hold  onto  the  ladder  some.     It'll  give  me  stabil- 
ity, too.    Okay,  I'll  get  the  backside  of  your 
arm  from  the  other  side.    Let  me  get  around  - 
around  your  waist  here  now. 

LMP-EVA    Getting  there  -    kilter.  Ah. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  let  me  try  your  left  arm. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay? 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  go  -  up  the  steps. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    You're  there. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy.     Hallelujah.     Yes,  do  that.     That  gets 
a  lot  off.  Jack.    Keep  doing  that.     Keep  doing 
that.    Boy,  that  gets  it  off  your  shoes. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Okay.    Put  this  foot  out  here. 

CDR-EVA    We're  still  at  it,  Bob. 

CC  Yes.    It  seemed  to  go  a  lot  faster  down  there  in 

the  clean  room  at  the  Cape. 


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CDR-EVA    Boy,  you  bet  you.     And  I  know  why  we  didn't  do 
it .     It  was  just  as  tough  down  there  as  it  is 
here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay? 

CDR-EVA    No,  not  yet.     I  want  to  get  -  the  other  leg.  And 
then  I  want  you  to  lean  over  and  get  my  antenna. 

LMP-EVA    Roger.    Right.     I  need  to  brush  off  the  top,  too. 
I'll  stow  your  antenna  first. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  babe.    That's  about  all  I  can  do  for  you. 

Okay,  get  my  antenna.  Oh,  I  think  all  the  dust  I 
took  off  you  went  on  me. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  reach  it  from  there? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  yes;  I  think  I  can.     Oh,  whew. 

05  01  15  13    IMP-EVA    I  have  7  hours  from  the  time  I  looked  at  my 

watch.    That's  got  to  be  pretty  close. 

05  01  15  19    CC  You  guys  have  got  6  hours  and  53  minutes  and 

kO  seconds . 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Gene,  you're  stowed.    Let  me  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Let  me  see  your  brush. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Here  it  is. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,     That's  the  best  I  can  do. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Let  me  get  the  top  of  this  pocket. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Gio  on  up;  stay  clean. 

IJi!P-EVA  Well  -  you've  got  -  let's  see  - 

CDR-EVA  .1  hand  you  something. 

LMP-EVA  You've  got  to  bring  stuff  up  I  guess,  h\ah? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Bo  -  I  need  the  EVA  pallet. 


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CDR-EVA    Okay,  I've  give  you  that  and  then  I'll  get  to 

work,  I've  got  some  work  I've  got  to  do  for  Bob. 
Ah.    Okay,  everything  on  the  EVA  pallet? 

IMP-EVA    Yes.    Joast  hand  it  to  me  and  I'll  start  vuistowing 
it  up  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Man,  I  forgot  I  had  my  visor  up.  Zowie! 
See  if  I  can  get  back  in  the  shade. 


CDR-EVA    Got  it? 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  01  16  37    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I'll  try  giving  you  one  at  a  time. 

IWP's  got  the  EVA  pallet.  Let  me  give  you  a 
MESA  reading,  then  I'll  tidy  -  or  -  reading, 
and  I'll  tidy  the  blanket. 


CC  Okay. 

05  01  16  55    CDR-EVA    Okay.    The  reading  is  000,  133,  201,  and  I  can 

only  assume  that  one  of  us  hit  it.  I  think  I've 
got  time  to  give  you  another  one. 

CC  Okay.  Quickly. 


CDR-EVA    Well,  that's  the  way  it'll  be,  because  it's 
already  punched. 


05  01  17  l6    CDR-EVA    MARK  it. 


CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  tidying  up  the  MESA  blanket.  I'm 
pretty  tidy. 


LMP-IM      I  did  that. 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  MESA  blankets  are  tidied.     Okay.     Open  TGE  - 
I'll  do  that.    Brush  to  ladder  hook.  Final 
transfer.  Jack.     I'm  going  to  -  Okay,  I'll  tell 
you  what  I'm  going  to  do.    You've  got  the  -  I'm 
going  to  -  I'm  going  to  inventory  here.     You  got 
the  pallet.     ETB  is  here,  and  you  got  the  core- 
stem  bag.     SR  -  SCB-2  is  there;  SRC-1  is  here; 
big  bag  is  not  required.    Bob,  I  think  we  got 


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CC 

CDR-EVA 

IMP-IM 

CDR-EVA 


IMP-LM 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-LM 

CDR-EVA 

mp-iJ»i 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-m 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 
05  01  19  31  CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-IM 


everything.     The  tvo  things  on  the  surface  yet 
are  the  ETB  and  the  SRC  and  me. 

Okay,  we  copy  that.    But,  of  course  -  - 

Jack,  get  down  a  little  bit  more,  and  you've  got 
another  2  or  3  inches. 

I  can't  get  any  lower,  Willie,  [sic].  Me  buttons 
are  in  the  way. 

Okay.    Keep  going.    Get  your  pockets  over  the 
sill  -  There  you  go.    There  you  are  -  you're  in. 
Kick  off  your  feet  if  you  can  -  kick  them  right 
there.    That's  good.    That  got  a  lot  off.  Okay, 
go  on  in.    You're  over  to  the  right  -  Okay,  there 
you  are.     You've  got  all  the  room  you  want  now. 

That's  not  as  easy  as  in  the  J-bird. 

Okay.     I  think  I'll  give  this  rockbox  a  quick 
dust  in  here. 

Your  hoses  -  we've  got  to  have  a  better  way  to 
store  your  hoses. 

Yes,  I  don't  like  them  there  either.  I  saw  that 
when  we  went  out. 

(Heavy  breathing)    Whew,  boy. 

You  in? 

Yes. 

SoTonds  like  it. 

Oh,  come  on  get  up  there. 

Okay,  Jack,  coming  up  with  the  rockbox. 

I 'm  not  ready . 

Well,  I've  got  to  -  I've  got  to  - 
You  . . .  put  it  on  the  porch? 


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CDR-LM 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

05  01  21  11  CDR-EVA 
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CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
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mp-LM 

CDR-EVA 
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Well,  I  only  got  one  more  thing  to  do  and  that's 
taking  out  there  -  Just  clean  up  the  TGE.  Okay, 
I've  got  to  come  up  there  anyway. 

God  speed  the  crew  of  Apollo  17. 

Who  signed  it?    I  forgot  to  read  it. 

I'm  not  going  to  tell  you,  hut  I  like  the  mes- 
sage.   Probably  shouldn't  tell  you. 

Okay,  that  ought  to  stay  up  there. 

Okay,  I  can't  hand  you  anything  in  anyway.  I'm 
going  down  and  clean  up  the  TGE. 

Roger.     It  should  be  ready  to  read  by  now. 

Oh!    That  last  step  down  again.     Okay?  Bob, 
before  -  well,  let  me  get  this  for  you. 

Okay,  Bob,  670,  021,  501  -  670,  021,  501. 

Okay.     Got  that.  Gene. 

And  the  cover  is  up.    Cover  is  up,  if  I  can  keep 
it  up.    If  I  can  keep  it  up.    That'll  keep  it  up. 
It's  been  dusted.    And  I'll  get  it  to  STANDBY. 

Okay.    Copy  that.    And  did  you  dust  the  radiator? 

Yes  sir,  I  dusted  that  a  little  earlier.  Okay, 
it  is  STANDBY,  Bob.     Radiator  is  up. 

And  dusted. 

Cover  is  open.     Okay.     I'm  going  up  to  the  porch. 
All  I've  got  down  here  is  ETB,  and  it's  on  the 
LEC. 

I'm  ready  for  you. 

Have  you  got  anything  else? 

Negative. 


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LMP-M 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-I/4 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

mp-m 
cm-m 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 
CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-m 
CDR-EVA 


I'm  ready  for  you  up  here. 

Let's  see  what  kind  of  dusting  joh  I  can  do  on 
myself. 

Okay,  Jack,  coming  up.  Whee! 

Okay. 

Okay. 

A  little  higher.  — 
I  got  it . 
Watch  the  seal. 

Okay.    Okay,  here's  an  SRCj  okay? 
Put  her  in  here. 

Oh,  me.    Well,  I'll  get  it  up  for  you. 
No.    That's  all  right. 

Ah.  I  think  you  got  the  ticket  right  there.  Ah. 
I'll  watch  that. 

No  sense  making  it  hard.     See  if  I  can't  stand 
this  one  up.     Okay.     Okay.     There  come  the  core 
tubes.    Boy  let's  -  protect  that  core  tuhe.  Man, 
that  was  -  that  was  the  txirning  point  today. 

Got  it? 

Got  it.     Yes,  we  had  a  lot  of  turning  points. 
Do  you  want  the  LEG  in  there?    You  don't,  do  you? 
Negative,  you  can  leave  the  LEG  outside. 
No,  Just  the  bag. 

Where  are  the  scissors ,  by  the  way? 


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I/4P-LM 

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LMP-LM 
CC 

mP-JM 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
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LMP-IW 
CDR-EVA 
IM'-LM 
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CC 

LMP-LM 
CDR-XM 

CC 


They're  in  the  bag. 

Okay.    I  hope  they  don't  come  out  this  time. 

Well,  I  stuck  them  down  in  there.     I  hope  they 
don't. 

Yes,  Jack  -  - 

We'll  have  to  figure  out  something  else  if  they 
do . 

  You  guys  put  the  tools  in  the  ETB? 

I  think  so.  Bob.     I'll  take  a  peek  down  there. 
If  they  fell  out,  they'll  be  right  on  top.  Okay. 

Mama  me. 

Okay,  Gene.  And  you  got  the  SCB  number  2  in  and 
the  pallet  out,  right? 

Right.     Here  it  comes.  Jack.     Take  that.  There 
are  no  scissors  on  the  ground  beneath  where  the 
ETB  was.     So  I  would  say  that  they're  probably 
in  the  ETB. 

Well,  good  enough. 

Okay.     You  got  everything,  now? 

Yes  sir. 

Okay,  let  me  get  out  of  the  way. 

Okay.    Whoops,  that's  me  dusting.    Well,  I  guess 
I  got  about  -  25,  20,  15  -  I  guess  13  percent 
oxygen,  3.8.    Okay,  babe. 

I  copy  that.     Fifty  percent  oxygen,  Geno  -  that's 


Come  on  in. 

...  Comes  through  that  hole.  Ho;  13  -  13  percent, 
I  think. 

One,  five  [sic]. 


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LMP-LM      Okay.    Put  your  "but  -  put  your  "buttons  down. 

You're  great.    Now  your  head  up.    You're  right 
against  the  top ,  right  against  the  ...  27 .  Come 
towards  me.    Okay,  now  up. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 
LMP-LM      Tight  fit. 

CDR-LM      What  am  I  caught  on  back  there? 

LMP-LM      You're  Just  getting  -  you're  just  scraping  against 
your  PLSS. 

CDR-m      Okay.     I'll  just  bend. 

LMP-IiM     Watch  your  your  -  your  pockets.    Your  leg 

pockets  might  be  part  of  the  problem. 

CDR-LM     Okay . 

LMP-LM     Okay.    Come  on  in.    Just  hug  as  close  as  you  can. 
Okay,  you're  there. 

LMP-LM  Oke^? 

05  01  28  09    CDR-m      Yes,  let  me  just  get  on  my  feet  here.     Oh  -  ah  - 

Wait  a  minute.  Got  to  turn  one  way  or  the  other. 
Does  this  look  better? 

MP-LM     Yes.    I'd  tiirn  towards  yo\ar  right. 
CDR-LM     Well,  can't  do  that. 

IMP-LM      Try  the  other  way.    Get  your  PLSS  back  in  there 
towards  the  circuit  breakers.    Move  your  right  - 
your  left  arm. 

CDR-LM      (Laughter)    Where?  Okay. 
LMP-LM      There . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Let  me  make  sure  there's  nothing  in  that 
hatch . 

LMP-LM      Well,  there's  dust.     That's  one  thing  that's  in 
there . 


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CDR-LM      Well  -  Take  one  quick  peek. 


LMP-LM 


CDR-LM 


I  can't  -  From  where  I  stand,  all  I  can  see  is 
dust . 

Okay,  it's  clear.    Did  it.    Now  what  do  we  do 
next? 


LMP-LM      Pockets  -  your  pockets. 
CDR-LM  Okay? 
UIP-LM      Okay . 

05  01  29  07    U4P-LM     Primary  water,  CLOSED.    Forward  hatch  -  Turn  that 

WATER  OFF. 

CDR-IM      Do  you  have  to  ttirn  the  PRIMARIES  or  just  the 
SECONDARY,  Bob? 

LMP-LM     Primary . 


CC 


Prinaiy  only.  That's  why  you  don't  turn  your 
PRIMARY  WATER,  OFF,  when  you  go  to  AUT, 


CDR-LM  Okay.     I've  got  them  both  OFF.    Is  that  all  right? 

CC  That's  okay,  too. 

CDR-M  Well,  wait  a  minute.    Got  yours? 

I*IP-LM  No,  I  can't  quite  reach  it. 


CDR-LM 


Well,  if  you  can  roll  to  the  left,  I'll  get  it 
for  you. 


LMP-LM      Yes,  I  can. 


CDR-LM 


Let  me  get  -  let  me  get  back  here.     I've  gotten 
bigger  since  I've  been  out  there.    You've  got  to 
go  more.    You've  got  to  go  more. 


IMP-m      Yes.     There's  something  keeping  me  from  going 


more. 


CDR-LM      Okay.     Okay,  let  me  see  if  I  can't  - 


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05  01  30  23  CDR-m 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-m 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  01  31  08  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  01  31  12  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  01  31  35  CDR-m 
LMP-m 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


...  to  "be  awfully  far  inboard  for  what  I  -  fitted 
it. 

Okay.    Your  PRIMARY  WATER  is  OFF. 
Okay,    imp's  WATER  is  OFF. 

Now  you're  going  to  have  to  move  way  over  there, 
so  I  can  get  the  hatch. 

Yes ,  I  have  to  go  back  the  way  I  was . 

Back  up  against  the  circuit  breakers . 

Yes. 

Can  you  see  what  I'm  catching  on,  upward? 
Yes.    You're  just  hitting  the  rail  over  there. 
Okay.  Now. 

...  I  can't  -  Close  and  lock  forward  hatch,  huh? 

Yes.     Can  you  do  it? 

Yes.     Can't  see  it.  Okay. 

Forward  HATCH  is  CLOSED  - 

Locked? 

And  LOCKED.    Which  one  of  those  dump  valves  is  - 
That  one  up  on  top.    I  can  get  that  one. 

Okay.    Take  it  easy. 

Oh,  whew! 

It's  AUTO,  and  it's  locked. 

You're  sure?    Is  that  locked  there? 

Yes,  sir. 

Okay.    And  it  is  AUTO.  Okay. 


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CDR-LM 
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CDR-LM 

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CDR-IM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-m 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-IW 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-m 

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CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay. 

Hey,  I  got  a  tone  and  a  -  and  I  got  an  H2O  flag. 
Okay. 

Roger,  Jack;  we  saw  it. 

Okay,  PLSS  Og  is  not  less  than  10  percent. 
Yes .    Okay , 
Okay,  let's  go. 

If  we're  not  less,  go  to  manual  control  repress. 
Okay.    I've  got  to  t\irn  - 

Okay.    Let  jne  get  out  of  your  way. 
Ok^. 

About  as  far  as  I  can  go.    Okay.     I'll  read  it 
to  you,  when  you  get  there. 

I  think  part  of  our  problem  is  -  is  this  -  slope. 
There's  no  purchase  -  as  my  Father  used  to  say  - 
no  purchase. 

Okay,  are  you  ready?    Are  you  ready? 
Wait  a  minute. 

I  need  you  on  CABIN  REPRESS,  AUTO;  and  then  on  I6 
I  need  you. 

Okay. 

Okay,  CABIN  REPRESS,  AUTO. 
Going  AUTO. 

Okay.     ECS  CABIN  REPRESS,  CLOSED. 
Okay.     Stajid  by  -  for  repress. 
I'll  try  and  get  cabin  ...  master. 


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05  01  32  5U    LMP-LM      Okay,  there's  the  MASTER  ALAEM,    Heck,  I  can't 

get  it . 

CDR-LM      I'll  catch  it. 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

05  01  33  01    CDR-LM      Cabin  is  coming  up.     ...  closed  at  1  psi. 
LMP-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM     Okay.    Verify  cabin  pressure  increasing.  PRESS 
REG  A  and  B  to  CABIH, 

LMP-LM  Now? 

CDR-LM  Now. 

05  01  33  19    LMP-IiM      A's  CABIN;  B's  CABIN. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  and  I  want  yoxir  PLSB  O2  ,  OFF  -  vhen  I  give 
you  a  call.    That's  when  we  get  greater  than  2.5. 

05  01  33  33    CDR-LM      Okay,  now.    We're  at  3-     Can  you  get  it?     If  you 

can't,  I'll  reach  it  for  you. 

05  01  33  39    LMP-LM      It's  OFF. 

05  01  33  1+0    CDR-LM     Okay,  CABIN  warning  light  OFF.    Verify  cabin 

pressure  stable  at  h.6  -  Okay,  it's  coming  up. 
It's  3.6.    And  you  use  the  PURGE  valve  to  depress. 

MP-LM     What's  our  pressure? 

05  01  33  57    CDR-LM      Cabin  pressure  is  1;.    Let  me  Just  take  a  look 

here  at  h.6.    Okay.    I'm  coming  down.  She's 
coming  down.    Cabin's  up  to  -  Cabin's  up  to  5, 
Jack. 

05  01  3h  09    LMP-LM     Okay,  it's  5-     It  shut  off. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    Okay,  I'm  about  depressed. 
LMP-LM      So  am  I. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    Post-EVA  configuration.     White  dots  out 
and  EVA  decals.     Okay.  Checking. 


Tape  82A/1U 


LMP-LM     White  dot. 


CDR-LM 


IMP-LM 


Okay.    Give  me  a  chance  to  turn  around  and  look. 
Okay.    White  dots  are  out  -  out  -  all  the  white 
dots.    Okay,  they're  all  out  here. 

Boy,  does  this  feel  good  to  get  soft  suits.  Oh, 
my  hands.     Okay,  they're  all  out  here. 


CDR-LM      Okay.     Okay,  on  l6,  SUIT  FAN  number  2,  CLOSED. 
05  01  3k  liSP-m      SUIT  FAN  2,  CLOSED. 

CDR-LM     And  SUIT  FAN  DELTA-P,  CLOSED. 
05  01  3h  58    LMP-LM  CLOSED. 

CDR-LM      ECS  caution  and  WATER  SEP  component  lights  on  [sic] 
Okay,  ECS  -  I  think  it's  on.     It's  hard  to  see  it. 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay.     Doff  yovir  gloves.    Stow  on  coram  panel. 
Hallelujah!     Cabin's  stable,  Houston.     How's  it 
look  to  you? 


05  01  35  28    CC  Looks  good  to  us,  17.    And  I'd  like  you  to  know 

you  had  a  7-hotir  and  12-minute  EVA,  from  3.5  to  3.5. 

CDR-LM      Well,  until  I  get  out  of  this  suit,  I'm  still  EVA. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR-IM      Oh,  doesn't  that  feel  good.  Whoo! 


CC 


And  I  think  it's  a  tremendous  Job  for  what  we 
might  call  a  "challenging"  EVA. 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  that's  no  pun.     It  really  was.     It  really 
was . 


CC 


I  know  it,  men.     I  know  It. 


CDR-LM      I  tell  you,  I  really  wish  you  guys  could  have 

been  here  with  us.  You  worked  as  hard  at  it  as 
we  did,  if  not  harder. 


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LMP-LM     Harder,  I  think.    Until  today.    Oh!    You  don't 
have  a  tuh  of  hot  water  I  can  soak  my  hands  in, 
do  you?    Wait  until  that  dust  hits  the  sweat  of 
your  hands.    Oh!    I  tell  you. 

05  01  36  57    CDR-LM      Man!     Okay,     ity  gloves  are  off.     Doff  helmets  with 

visors,  lower  shades,  and  stow  in  BRA.  Well,  I 
guess  the  first  thing  is  to  get  this  thing  off. 
Boy,  let  me  tell  you. 

CC  Okay.    And  IT  -  or  Jack  and  Gene,  I'm  going  to 

turn  you  over  to  Joe  now.     I'll  he  back  in  a  while. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob.    Thank  you  for  a  Job  well  done. 

CC  Well,  job  well  done  on  your  side,  guys. 

CDR-LM      Oh,  I  can't  do  it.     I  don't  know  if  I  -  How  about 
getting  my  glove  off? 


LMP-LM      Can  you  handle  it? 
CDR-LI'l      I'm  not  sure. 
LMP-LM      Thank  you. 

CDR-LM      Jack,  the  big  one's  out  of  the  way.     What  we 

really  had  to  get  out  there  on.  Boy,  look  at  that 
visor.    No  wonder  I  couldn't  see. 


CDR-LM     Jack,  do  you  read? 
LMP-LM  Yes. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  I  thought  you  knocked  your  thing  to  AR  -  - 

CDR-LM      -  -  or  to  A  or  something.     There's  a  lot  of  noise 
in  the  background.     That's  why  I  was  wondering. 
Need  some  help? 

LMP-LM      Stow  the  visors,  huh"!    What  is  it? 

CDR-LM     Yes,  stow  them  in  the  BRA. 

LMP-LM      Ko,  but  I  mean  -  Keep  the  protective  visor  down. 


Tape  82A/16 


CDR-LM 


Keep  the  protective  visor  over  it,  and  stow  the 
whole  thing  in  the  BRA. 

Verify  safety  on  the  dump  valve.  I  guess  I  can 
do  that  now  - 


05  01  39  39    LMP-IM  Again? 

CDR-LM  That  one's  still  safe.     And  that  one's  still  safe. 

LMP-LM  That  was  like  gunpowder,  just  like  the  boys  said. 

CDR-LM  Oh,  it  does,  doesn't  it? 

05  01  39  5k    CDR-LM      Okay,  DESCENT  WATER  valve,  OPEN.     Oh,  hoy.     I  ran 

out  of  water  out  there.    I  mean  the  drinking  kind. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  what's  next? 

CDR-LM  Okay,  DESCENT  WATER  valve,  OPEN. 

05  01  kO  2k    mP-LM  Okay.     Coming  OPEN. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  and  then  you  get  your  purge  valve  out. 

LMP-LM  It's  too  hard  . . . 

CDR-IW  ...  (Laughter) 

CDR-LM  (Laughter)     ...  If  they  say  anything.  Just  say, 

I  told  you  so."    Okay.    Remove  your  purge  valve  - 

mP-IM  (Laioghter) 

CDR-IW    and  disconnect  your  OPS  hose. 

Yes,  sir  (laughter).     If  I  can.  Okay. 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


I  tell  you,  I  haven't  seen  anything  -  Drilling 
those  holes  was  a  piece  of  cake  until  I  couldn't 
get  that  core  tube  out.    I  thought  that  whole   


LMP-LM      I'm  glad  there  were   

CDR-U4      I  thought  that  -  - 


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LMP-LM      I'm  glad  there  were  two  of  us. 

CDR-LM      I  thought  that  whole  thing  was  going  to  break. 
It  was  bending  about  -  at  about  (laughter) 

LMP-LM     Well,  next  time  we  have  to  do  it  - 

CDR-LM      Yes . 

LI-IP-LM      Let's  see,  OPS.     That  must  be  this  one. 

CDR-LM      Disconnect  OPS  hose.     Connect  LM  hoses  -  red  to 
red,  blue  to  blue. 

LMP-LM      I  don't  want  LM  hoses  yet.     I'll  just  get  on  water 
right  away. 

CDR-LM      Let's  put  - 

05  01  Ul  01    LMP-LM      I'm  going  to  -  DIVERTER  valve,  horizontal. 

05     CDR-LM      SUIT  ISOL,  both.     I'm  going  SUIT  FLOW,  get  some 
flow  in  this  cabin.  Okay. 

LMP-LM     Here,  you  want  me  to  get  it? 

CDR-LM      I  tell  you,  my  hands,  after  working  -  at  -  picking 
up  little  things. 

LMP-LM      I  feel  the  same  way.     I  think  you  had  the  worst 
of  it. 

CDR-LM     Hey,  let's  keep  as  much  dust  out  of  those  con- 
nectors as  we  can  (laughter).    Wise  guy. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    Let's  wait  on  these. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  yo^ir  diverter  valve  horizontal? 

LMP-LM      Yes.    And  if  we   

CDR-LM      Okay,  and  if  you  can  get  to  the  SUIT  FLOW,  you 

can  go  SUIT  FLOW.  In  the  meantime,  get  your  FAN  - 
your  PUMP  OFF. 


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05  01  k2  08    LMP-LM      fan's  OFF.     PUMP's  OFF. 

CDR-LM     Joe,  are  you  still  reading  us  down  there? 


CC 


CDR-LM 


CC 


Loud  and  clear.  Gene.  We're  following  you  close 
and  -  - 

Okay.     I  jTist  wanted  to  see  whether  you  were 
there . 

Roger.    Following  you  close  here. 


MP-LM     Keep  us  honest. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  we're  Just  looking  at  5  psi  and  all  the 
hatches  are  battened  down,  and  the  safeties  are 
on.    You  can  keep  a  look  at  the  rest  of  it  for  us. 

Copy  that.    And  we're  saying  the  same  thing  - 

CDR-M      Okay,  disconnect  your  PLSS  water.     Now  what  I  do. 
Jack,  is  -  I  was  going  to  say  put  your  cover  on, 
but  we're  going  to  stow  those. 


CC 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  guess  we've  got  to  go  off  the  air  for  a 
little  while.    We're  both  going  0, 


CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM  And  we'll  get  on  otir  LM  coram  here,  shortly. 

05  01  h2  53    CC  Roger.     Check  back  in. 

05  01  kk  kg    LMP-LM  ...     Okay,  we  got  to  do  some  more  switching,  yet. 

05  01  hh  51    CDR-LM      Okay.     Connect  the  -  Okay.     Now  in  -  AUDIO  circuit 

breakers  CLOSED.    Now,  both  panels,  VHA  -  VHF  A, 
RECEIVE;  B,  OFF.     Okay.     MODE  ICS/PTT. 

05  01  1^6  01    CDR-LM     Hello,  Houston.    Do  you  read  Challenger  on  LM 

comm? 


CC 


Okay,  Challenger.  This  is  Houston.  Reading  you 
5  by. 


CDR-LM     Okay,  we're  going  to  go  ahead  and  charge  up  the  - 
let's  see,  the  LMPs  -  PLSS. 


Tape  82A/19 


CC  We  copy. 

05  01  52  56    LMP-LM      Hello,  Houston.     The  recharge  on  the  LMP: 

95  percent. 

05  01  53  03    CC  Copy  that. 

05  01  59  ho    CDR-LM      Hello,  Houston.     It's  CDR  with  a  recharge  of 

93  percent. 

05  01  59  1*5    CC  Sounds  good.  Gene. 

05  02  08  18    lM>~Ui      Okay,  Houston.     OPS  pressures:     IMP,  61OO,  and 

CDR,  5900. 

CC  Thank  you.  Jack. 

05  02  18  01    CDR-LM      Joe,  we're  changing  a  cartridge  out  in  my  PLSS. 

We've  got  the  battei*y  changed. 

CC  Okay,  Geno;  thank  you. 

CDR-LM  You  don't  have  a  cold  something  or  other,  do  you? 

CC  I'm  sorry  you  even  mentioned  it. 

LMP-LM  We  can  think  about  it,  can't  we? 

CC  Mercy,  yes. 

LMP-LM  Hey.     Does  Captain  America  know  all  about  this? 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     He  does.     He's  been  fully  advised, 

and  his  response  is  -  he's  sound  asleep,  now. 

LMP-LM     Yes.     I  forgot.    He  was  going  to  bed  before  we  did 
today. 

LMP-LM     Did  he  have  a  good  day  up  there? 

CC  He  surely  did.     Fine  day.    And  I  want  to  make  the 

observation  -  as  a  casual  bystander.     It  was  a 
real  pleasure  to  watch  your  EVA  unfold  down  here. 


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05  02  19  55    CDR-LM      Thank  you,  Joe,     I  think  you  are  more  than  a 

casual  bystander  though. 

05  02  27  23    CDR-LM     Hey,  Joe.    We've  got  -  1  and  3  -  or  correction, 

I's  replacing  the  3s  and  2's  replacing  the  ks  on 
the  PLSS. 

CC  We  copy. 

05  02  30  51    LMP-LM  Joe,  we're  in  the  right-hand  column  of  3-3  now. 

CC  Roger. 

05  02  35  2k    LMP-LM  Joe,  hag  -  collection  bag  2  is  l6. 

CC  Thank  you. 

05  02  35  01    IMP-LM  And  the  SRC  is  32  pounds. 

CC  Copy;  32  pounds. 

05  02  37  03    CDR-IM  Okay,  Joe,    The  HEATER  is  ON  for  the  dump. 

05  02  37  10    CC  Okay. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANS CRIPTIOU 

05  02  Ul  51    LMP-Lli     Okay,  Joe.    The  circuit  breakers  are  verified. 

On  both  11  and  l6,  with  the  exception  of  the  line 
heater. 

CO  Okay,  copy  that.    Thank  you  very  much. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston,  we're  going  to  turn  the  BIOMED,  OFF. 
05  02  kk  12    CC  Okay. 

05  03  06  kh    LMP-LM     Houston,  Challenger.    We'll  both  be  off  the  air 

briefly  here  as  we  swing  into  getting  our  suits 
and  LCGs  off.    The  Commander  presently  has  his 
suit  off,  and  I'll  start  on  mine. 

CO  Roger,  Jack. 

05  03  29  U3    CDR-LM     Hello,  Joe;  you  there? 

CC  Waiting  patiently. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  if  you're  keeping  score  on  the  bottom  of 

3-U,  we're  both  out  of  o\ir  suits.    And  does  that 
feel  good. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     Thank  you. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  I'm  out  of  icy  LCG,  if  you  want  to  turn  the 
page. 

CC  Okay,  Geno,  and  how  are  your  hands  feeling? 

CDR-LM  Oh,  they're  a  little  tired.    On  both  sides,  here. 

CC  Can't  imagine  - 

CDR-LM  But  I  think  they'll  p\ill  through. 

CDR-LM     Do  I  read  this  that  the  -  that  the  LMP  sleeps  on 
bio  tonight?    Is  that  right? 

CC  Stand  by.    Roger;  that's  affirm. 


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CDR-LM  Okay,  so  I  can  take  mine  off,  huh?    l^^jr  sensors? 

CC  That's  affirm.  Gene. 

CDR-m  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Well,  we'll  -  we'll  be  up  to  the  EVA  debriefing 
time  here  very  shortly, 

CC  Roger . 

CDR-LM  Joe,  do  you  know  how  much  time  has  elapsed  since 


ve  initially  charged  our  PLSS's  with  0^? 


CC 


Geno,  it's  time  to  charge  them  again,  if  you  want 
to. 


CDR-LM     Okay,  I  Just  might  pick  that  up. 
CC  All  righty. 

CDR-LM     We'll  let  you  know  where  we  are,  though. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM     Say,  Joe,  I  guess  the  home  front  was  probably 
listening  in.    Any  one  talked  to  them? 


CC 


Haven't  talked  to  them  today,  Geno.  I  haven't  at 
least , 


CDR-LM     Hello,  boss,  how  axe  you  doing  down  there? 


CC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-I24 


Just,  fine.    Waiting  for  you  guys  to  go  to  sleep 
so  we  can  do  the  same.    Had  a  great  day  up  there, 
guys , 

Oh,  you  don't  have  to  wait  for  that.    We're  -  it 
vas  super  from  here  -  it's  quite  an  experience, 
Deke,  and  quite  a  challenge. 

Yes,  it  looked  beautiful  from  here. 

I  tell  you  it  makes  you  feel  -  feel  like  you  had 
a  good  day's  work  behind  you,  though. 


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05  03  3k  U2    CC  I  can  believe  that. 

CC  We're  about  to  give  you  the  rest  of  the  day  off, 
Gene. 

CDR-LM  Thank  you,  Joe, 

CC  Geno  -  While  you  troop  are  - 

CDR-LM  Hey»  it's  3  o'clock  in  the  -  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-LM  Go  ahead,  Joe  I  was  just  going  to  say,  it's 
3  o'clock  in  the  morning  hack  there. 

CC  We  know  it. 

CC  It's  3  o'clock  in  the  morning  up  there,  too. 

CDR-LM  Yes  (chuckle)  and  we  know  that  too. 

CC  Troops,  while  you're  in  a  listen  mood  up  there, 


we're  going  to  be  coining  at  you  with  a  nuniber  of 
items  here,  not  too  many,  but  the  first  will  be 
some  surface  block  data.     Then  we're  going  to 
read  up  to  you  a  LEVA  cleaning  procedure  which  is 
fairly  simple,  a  real  short  geology  debrief,  a 
one-line  change  in  the  Lunar  Surface  Checklist. 
And  then,  we've  been  doing  some  thinking  down  here 
about  how  to  fix  the  fender.    And  it's  going  to 
involve,  we  think,  although  we'll  work  on  it  while 
you  guys  are  getting  some  rest,  it's  going  to 
involve  using  utility  clanrps,  from  inside  your  IM 
there,  instead  of  tape,  to  fasten  some  sort  of 
stiff  material  onto  the  Rover  in  place  of  the 
missing  fender.    And  we'll  go  with  either  with 
one  of  your  -  your  cue  cards,  or  possibly  with 
part  of  insulation  that,  was  the  flame  blajiket 
protecting  the  Rover  during  the  landing.  Or 
perhaps  part  of  the  packing  material  that  was 
between  the  Rover  wheel  and  is  probably  lying  on 
the  ground  underneath  the  LM  there. 


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CDR-LM     Joe,  you  couldn't  be  reading  our  nind  more.  We 
were  talking  about  that,  and  there  is  a  piece  of 
It  right  outside  my  window.    I  saw  it  after  we 
got  in  here.    Either  that  or  back  of  a  part  of  a 
data  book  or  something  -  I  hate  like  the  devil  to 
tear  one  of  those  other  fenders  off.    And  the 
reason  tape  won't  stick  is  that  everything's  got 
a  fine  coating  of  dust,  and  the  only"  way  I  could 
finally  get  it  to  stick  was  to  put  tai^e  on  it  - 
rip  the  tape  off  -  or  take  the  tape  off  -  which 
took  some  of  the  dust  off  and  then  tape  would 


CC 


CC 


tend  to  hold  it.    But  it  just  won't  hack  it  up 


here. 


Roger,  Gene.    That's  exactly  what  we're  thinking. 
And  what  we're  going  to  do  is  run  through  the  fix 
in  a  pressure  suit  a  few  hours  from  now.    And  if  it 
looks  like  we  can  do  it,  and  it  won't  cost  you  many 
more  than  say  10  minutes,  we're  going  to  have  you 
go^through  with  it.     If  it  takes  longer  than  that, 
we  re  going  to  go  back  to  the  drawing  board  and 
see  what  else  we  can  do  here. 

CDR-LM     Well    you  know  John  and  Charlie  can  tell  you  Just 
had  bad  It  IS.     I  wouldn't  have  believed  it  -  I 
guess  I  didn't  believe  it,  or  I  would  have  worked 
a  little  harder  to  make  sure  that  fender  was  going 
to  stay  on.    But  it  -  Man,  Just  that  short  tr^ 
back  from  where  we  lost  it ,  and  we  were  Just 
covered.    The  whole  -  I  couldn't  even  read  the 
parts  of  the  panel  on  the  Rover,  plus  all  the 
battery  covers  and  everything. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    What  we  really  need,  I  thinly,  is  some 

White  mud  flaps  up  there. 

CDR-LM     That's  a  little  too  old  fashioned.  Joe. 


I  guess  we'd  know  wouldn't  we? 


CDR-LM     I'm  afraid  so. 
05  03  39  56    CDR-IW      Okay,  Joe, 


CDR-IM 


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CC  We're  watching. 

CDR-m     You  sure  of  that?    You  should  be  getting  LMP 
hiomed. 

CDR-IM     And  Joe,  give  me  a  hack  after  about  10  minutes  in 
case  I  forget  on  that  PLSS  recharge. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR-LM      Can  I  do  both  the  -  I  can  do  both  the  water 

recharge  and  the  0^  recharge  at  the  same  time, 
can't  I? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

CC  Gene,  I  caution  not  to  tilt  the  PLSS  while  you're 

doing  that. 

CDR-LM     Yes,  good  idea.    Mine's  in  the  station. 

CC  And,  Gene,  if  -  if  you  want  to  get  the  geology 

debrief  out  of  the  way  anytime.  Just  give  us  a 
whistle  on  that. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  why  don't  you  give  -  give  me  the  block  data, 
and  then  we  can  go  on  that  geology  brief? 

CC  Okay,  are  you  ready  to  copy? 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead? 

05  03  ^3  03    CC  Okay,  Jack  surface  block  data;  lift-off  times, 

T21,  128  plus  1+7  plus  12;  T22,  130  plus  1+5  plus  UU; 
T23,  132  plus  Uk  plus  l8;  T2l+,  131^  plus  1+2  plus  50; 
T25,  136  plus  1+1  plus  28.  Over. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Joey,  21,  reading  in  order  128:1+7:12; 

130:1+5:1+1+;  132:l+l+:l8;  13l+:l+2:50;  136:1+1:28.  And 
what's  the  present  rev? 

CC  Present  rev  is  20,  and  readback  is  correct. 


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IMP-LM     Okay,  Joe,  you  can  go  ahead  and  fire  avay  at  the 
LMP, 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  and  for  the  geology  questions.  I'm 

going  to  turn  the  console  over  to  the  well-known 
geologist  of  the  Seifort  Galaxies. 

UlP-m     Can't  hack  it,  huh?    You've  all  forgotten  eveiy- 
thlng  I  taugtit  you. 

CC  I  draw  my  sword. 

CC  Okay,  guys,  you  want  me  to  address  first  those  to 

Gene  -  those  to  Jack,  and  then  address  them  to 
Gene  later  on,  or  you  guys  both  want  to  answer  them 
at  the  same  time? 

IJIP-LM     Well,  we're  hoth  listening.    We  can  answer  them. 


CC 


Okay,  the  way  you  asked  that,  I  wasn't  sure. 


CC  Okay.    Question  number  1  is  -  concerns  the  Rover 

mobility  rate.    The  Rover  mobility  rates  over  the 
short  span  you  drove,  which  is  hardJjr  represent- 
ative, are  slower  than  people  had  anticipated. 
Do  you  think  this  is  due  to  visibility,  terrain, 
or  what?    Do  you  think  you  can  still  hack  a  7-3  or 
o-kilometer  minimum  or  average  to  Station  2 
tomorrow? 

CDR-LM     The  answer  to  that  is  yes.  Bob.     I  think  it's 

partly  -  partly  fam,  but  it's  also  the  fact  that 
we  did  a  lot  of  circling.    We  didn't  drive  in  many 
straight  lines.    Trying  to  find,  for  the  most  part, 
our  bearings,  and  tried  to  pick  some  high  spots 
so  we  could  look  around.    So  I  think  straight-line 
navigation  out  in  the  area  we're  going  is  going 
to  be  easily  8  kilometers . 

CC  Okay,  great.    Qkay.    Another  .question  here.  Gene, 

that  you  should  be  able  to  answer  with  a  simple 
yes  or  no.    Was  there  any  spillage  of  the  material 
m  the  drill  core  while  you  were  breaking  it  down? 


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CDR-LM      Simgple  no. 

CC  Okay.  And   

CDR-m      Spillage  out  of  it? 

CC  -  -  Yes,  you  know,  when  you  broke  the  sections, 

did  you  lose  rauc±i  material  out  of  it? 

CDR-LM     Ko,  sir;  I  didn't  lose  any. 

CC  Okay,  next  simple  q^uestion.    When  you  were  drilling 

the  deep  core  where  the  neutron  probe  weis  ,  could 
you  see  the  RTG  over  the  rock? 


CDR-m     Yes . 

CC  Okay.    You  have  any  feel  for  how  high  the  rock  is 

or  how  low  -  how  deep  the  thing  wsis  with  respect 
to  the  -  with  respect  to  the  RTG?    Where  you  down 
in  a  level  that  was  below,  even  without  the  rocks 
being  there? 

05  03  k&  10    CDR-LM     Yes,  I  think  I  -  yes.     I  was  in  a  -  in  a  sliiiiip. 

There  was  a  ridge  between  us  and  the  RTG,  and  I 
had  the  rock  in  a  line  of  sight  between  it  and 
where  I  put  that  core.    And  I'd  say  the  rock  was 
certainly  near  the  ridge  and  it  was  -  what.  Jack?  - 
I  don't  know  was  it  meter  to  -  meter  high  for  the 
most  part.    And  it  sloped  off,  and  I'd  say  at 
least  a  half  a  meter  high  in  the  line  of  sight 
from  where  the  neutron  probe  is  to  the  -  to  the 
RTG.    Plus,  there's  a  lot  of  undulations  -  I  think 
it'll  be  below  the  line  of  sight,  anyway. 


CC  Okay.    And  a  somewhat  more  general  question,  here. 

It  says  -  and  I'll  read  it.    We're  still  puzzled 
as  to  whether  there  is  a  dark  mantle.     Could  you 
say  something  more  about  the  dark  regolith  surface? 
There's  a  lot  of  discussion,  today,  about  whether 
or  not  it  could  have  been  a  regolith  derived  from 
the  intermediate  gabbro  which  you  were  san5>ling 
as  boulders . 


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CDR-LM     Bob,  I  -  I  think  I  don't  have  too  much  to  add  to 
what  I  said,  near  the  end  of  the  EVA,  is  that  I 
do  not  have  an  intuitive  feeling  that  the  regolith 
has  been  derived  from  most  of  the  boulders  that 
we're  seeing.    But  -  because  those  boulders  are 
fairly  light-colored,  they  look  like  they're 
probably  50  percent  plagioclase.    The  -  it  could 
be  that  the  regolith  is  derived  from  some  other 
material  that  has  blanketed  the  area.    I  don't 
think  we  have  that  answer,  yet. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that. 

CDR-LM     Bob,  the  boulders  -  the  boulders  we  are  sampling  - 
I  think  Jack  and  I  both  feel  that  it's  probably  - 
we  feel  we  sampled  the  aubfloor  because  we  saw 
on  the  sides  of  the  craters  where  some  of  these 
boulders  were  exposed  almost  as  if  they  were 
bedrock  down  there.    In  driving  back  from  what  we 
called  Station  1,  we  -  we  could  definitely  see  the 
light  mantle  out  in  the  area  where  the  potentials 
of  a  slide  are. 

CC  Okay,  very  good.    Yes,  I  think  that  the  -  At  least, 

it  B  a  going  bet  aroiind  here  that  we're  sampling 
the  sub  floor  when  we're  sajnpling  -  at  least  the 
top  of  the  subfloor  when  we're  sampling  the 
intermediate  gabbro  there.    The  rocks  and  the 
boulders . 

CC  Okay.    We  also   

CDR-LM  Yes,  the  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-m  Bob. 

CC  Go. 


LMP-IM 


It  is  sort  of  strange  that  we  don't  see  a  good 
population  of  fine  -  of  finer-grained  rocks.  These 
rocks  look  very  much  like  igneous  rocks,  but 


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they're  considerably  coarser  than  comparable  - 
well,  they're  about  the  grain  size  of  some  of  the 
coarse-grain  Mare  basalts  that  tend  to  differen- 
tiate the  crystallobalite  and  tridymite  -  but  we 
didn't  see  any  of  the  finer-grain  versions.  If 
it's  an  intermediate  crystalline  rock,  we  have  not 
seen  any  fine-grain  eq.ui Talents  yet.    At  least  not 
in  abundance. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

CC  We  get  -  we  gather  that  there's  no  color  change  in 

the  dark-mantle  material  at  depth.    In  other  words, 
the  footprints,  wheel  tracks,  and  the  rake  sample, 
et  cetera,  were  sort  of  uniform  in  color. 

LMP-LM     No,  there's  no  major  change,  but  looking  out  the 

window  and  I  think  I  commented  on  it ,  the  disturbed 
regolith  is  darker.    Oh,  I  don't  know,  maybe  by 
10  percent  albedo,  something  like  that,  than  the 
mdisturbed  surface. 


CC  Okay,  I  remember  your  commenting  that  when  you 

were  walking  to  the  ALSEP,  I  think.  Jack,  in  fact. 

CC  Okay,  during  drilling  of  the  heat  flow  holes. 

Gene  -  - 

CDR-LM     That's  right. 

CC   Was  there  change  in  color  of  the  cuttings  as 


they  piled  up  -  as  you  went  down  in  depth?    Do  you 
remember  any  of  that? 

CDR-LM     Yes,  Bob,  both  in  the  core  and  the  heat  flow  holes, 
it  really  didn't  -  didn't  seem  to  pile  it  up  like 
you're  accustomed  to  it  at  the  Cape,  and  I  guess 
maybe  that's  because  I  was  kicking  so  imich  dust 
around  there.     But  I  looked  specifically  when  I 
cleared  flutes,  and  what  have  you,  and  I  didn't 
see  any  difference  in  terms  of  color,  texture,  or 
anything  else  coming  up. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 


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05  03  53  01^    CC  On  the  -  i^he  outcrops  you  think  you  see  in  the 

North  and  South  Massif a »  do  they  appear  to  be 
linear  horizontal,  or  suhhorizontal?    Can  you  see 
layers,  and  do  you  have  any  feel  for  the  thickness 
or  the  attitude  or  the  continuity  of  them?    Can  you 
discuss  these  outcrops? 

CDR-LM     Boh,  the _^-_going  over  yesterday,  I  thought  I  could 
see  a  -  a  structure  dipping  off  to  the  southeast, 
apparent  dip  anyway,  on  the  eastern  side  of  the 
South  Massif.    Or  northeastern  side.    ¥e  haven't 
examined  them  in  detail  because  we  were  in  a  rush 
to  get  out.    We'll  put  the  binoculars  on  them  and 
try  to  examine  that  question.    There's  nothing 
very  obvious,  any  more  than  you  can  see  on  the 
photos,  that  the  ledges  were  concentrated  in  the 
upper  portion  (cough)  -  excuse  me  -  in  the  upper 
portion  of  the  Massif's  imits. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.    Here's  a  short  one  that  I'll 

ask  Jack  since  he  did  it.    Again  I  guess  we'll 
have  to  prove  this  -  the  shade  portion  of  the 
cosmic  ray  experiment.    The  question  is,  and  I 
repeat  -  I  quote  -  "Are  you  sure  that  the 
detectors,  not  the  decals,  were  facing  out?" 

LMP-LM  because  I  said  I  was  sure,  and  I  called 

CC  Roger.    I  was  sure,  too,  but  I  had  to  ask  the 

question. 

LMP-LM     I  -  I  under  -  I  know.    I  understand  why  it  was 
asked,  because  I  did  it  wrong  at  the  Cape.  But 
that's  why  -  that's  why  I  mentioned  it  when  I 
deployed  it. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  And  ready  to  -  Okay,  and  we  can  go  and  recharge 

the  other  PLSS  whenever  you're  ready  there,  guys. 


LMP-LM 


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CC  Okay,  the  next  q.-uestion  which  calls  for  a  little 

"bit  of  discussion  is:    The  layers  of  lineaments 
that  you  remarked  on  in  the  Sculptured  Hills,  can 
you  say  anything  about  them? 

CDR-LM      Yes,  Bob,  I  did.     I  think  I  said  -  and  I  commented, 
I'm  not  sure  whether  it  was  the  Sun  angle  or  not, 
but  see,  I  was  not  looking  at  the  Sculptured  Hills. 
I  was  looking  back  at  Bare  Mountain,  I  believe. 
And,  to  me  it  looked  like  there  was  some  organiza- 
tion that  was  dipping  back  to  the  east,  somewhere 
between,  oh,  20  and  25  degrees  maybe.    And  it  was 
very  obvious  to  me  but  I'm  a  little  -  a  little 
hesitant  because  of  some  of  this  Siin-angle  stuff. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.    I  gather  we  didn't  get  any 

500-mlllimeters  of  these  lineations,  that  right? 

CDR-LM     Ko,  but  I  think  we  will.    I  -  they  were  on  the 
western  side  of  Bare  Mountain  back  there,  and  I 
think  I  commented  that  I  thought  that  Bare  Mountain 
is  probably  what  the  Sculptured  Hills  look  like. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.    Is  there  a  scar  above  the 

light  mantle  material?    In  other  words  the  slide, 
is  there  a  scar  above  that  on  the  South  Massif? 
Can  you  see  anything  up  there  to  indicate  that  it 
might  have  come  off  of  there? 

CDR-LM     Nothing  obvious  yet ,  Bob . 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    On  the  way  back  to  Station  1, 

you  described  a  small  crater  with  light  material 
on  the  bottom^     Can  you  say  anything  more  about 
that  crater? 

LMP-LM     Bob,  I  don't  remesiber  saying  that,  or  Gene  doesn't 
either . 

CC  Okay.    You  talked  about  something  that  vas  ligjit 

I  don't  remenflaer  -  I  thought  it  was  a  boulder,  but 
the  q.uestlon's  about  a  crater. 


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LMP-LM     You're  ri^t.    You're  right,  there  was  a  large 

zap  pit  in  a  boulder  that  was  very  white.    It  must 
have  been  -  the  crater  for  the  zap  mist  have  been 
2  centimeters  diameter  anyway.    And  it  had  about 
that,  or  maybe  3-centimeters  worth  of  crushed 
minerals  around  it,  that  gave  it  a  white,  very 
bright  white  appearance. 

CC  Okay.    Well  that  was  indeed  a  small  crater,  so  I 

guess  the  question  was  right. 

05  03  57  59    CC  Let  me  change  the  mode  here  and  ask  you  three  or 

four  siinple  ALSEP  questions  again,  to  verify  for 
various  people,  exactly  what  happened.    Just  to 
make  sure  that  they're  clear  on  it.    When  -  Jack, 
when,  you  were  laying  out  the  geophone  leads ,  you 
mentioned  and  asked  me  if  it  was  all  right  if  the 
geophone  leads  crossed  one  another,  if  there  was 
EMI  problems.    And  so  that  made  people  wonder 
whether  or  not  it  was  possible  the  geophone 
positions  were  reversed;  i.e.,  geophone  1  was  laid 
out  in  geophone  2s'  direction,  et  cetera. 

LMP-LM     No,  that  was  Just  a  geophone  k  problem.  Hie 
geophones  are  in  the  ri^t  directions. 

CC  Otay. 

LMP-LM     Geophone  k  fell  out  of  the  module  and  rolled  under 
one  of  the  other  lines,  or  vice  versa,  I  don't 
know  which,  and  it  was  -  it's  crossing  one  of  the 
other  lines,  geophone  1,  I  think. 

CC  Okay,  no  problem.    Was  the  -  When  you  went  to  put 

the  I£PE  antenna  in  the  heat-flow  socket,  you 
didn't  have  -  weren't  able  to  do  it  at  first,  was 
it  because  of  there  was  a  lot  of  dust  in  there? 

USP-m     Wo,  I  think  it  was  the  same  old  problem  of  that 
piece  of  -  of  aluminiim  foil  or  whatever  it  is 
going  down  in  the  socket  and  Jamming  briefly. 


Tape  83A/13 


CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.    Did  you  clear  out  that  foil 

vhen  you  did  it,  or  did  you  Just  push  it  on 
through.? 

LMP-LM     I  pushed  it. 

CC  Okay.    When  you  taped  the  SEP  solar  cells  down, 

did  you  -  how  much  of  them  did  you  cover  with 
tape? 

LMP-LM     ¥e  tapsd  the  back. 

CC  Ah,  very  good  thinking.    And,  Geno,  a  question  for 

you  on  the  Rover  when  you  parked  it.     Do  you  have 
any  feeling  for  the  roll  angle  it  was  parked  at 

the  m?    She  roll  angle? 

CDR-LM     Here  let  me  look.    Boh,  it's  pretty  flat.     If  I 

had  to  guess,  I'd  say  zero.    And  you  can  bias  that 
by  a  degree  or  so,  but  basically  zero. 

CC  Okay,  is  the  pitch  scale  still  on  it,  or  did  it 

fall  off  yet? 

CDR-LM     Wo .    I  was  going  to  comment  on  that .     It '  s  still 
there . 

CC  Okay,  very  good.    Okay,  when  you  went  to 

Station.  lA,  we're  calling  the  new  Station  1  - 
Station  lA.,  were  the  blocks  there  as  well-filleted 
as  those  near  the  IM  and  the  ALSEP?    Do  they  all 
look  the  same? 

CDH-LM     Bob,  they  -  All  the  boulders  had  filleting  to  a 

slight  degree,  but  not  an  extreme  amount.    I  think 
it  no  more  than  what  is  being  caused  by  the 
redistribution  of  the  darker,  fine-grained  regolith. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-LM     Bob,  if  had  to  answer  -  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 


Tape  83A/11; 


LMP-LM     -  -  If  I  had  to  answer  that  question,  I'd  say  yes, 
Yes  that  the  fillet  -  "boulders  are  filleted  over 
there  about  like  they  are  over  here.    That  would 
be  my  impression. 


CC 


All  right.    Is  there  any  indication  that  the 
fillets  are  directional,  in  other  words,  that  the 
fillets  are  heavier  on  one  side  than  the  other? 

CDR-m     Bob,  haven't  noticed  that. 

05  Oil  01  1.9    CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.    Do  you  have  the  feeling  that 

some  boulders  are  more  rounded  -  - 


CDR-IM 
CC 


Well  that's  a  good  -  -  that's  a  good  - 
Roger.     I  agree  with  that. 


CDR-LM     That's  a  good  re  -  that's  a  good  reminder.  Bob. 

CC  Okay ,  do  have  any  feeling  that  some  boulders  are 

more  rounded  thaa  others?  Apparently  this  looked 
this  way  in  some  of  the  TV  pictures. 

CDR-LM     Some  of  the  big  ones  that  are  Just  bareOy  exposed 
above  the  regolith  looked  guite  well-rounded. 
Most  of  those  around  the  craters  are  subangular. 
I  think  -  I  got  the  impression  that  It's  Just 
purely  a  function  of  how  long  the  same  material's 
been  exposed;  but  some  of  the  big  boulders  like 
the  one  out  near  the  geophones  is  quite  angular 
in  part  and  quite  rounded  on  other  parts.  It's 
quite  variable. 

CC  Okay,  do  you  want  to  say  any  more  about  that 

boulder?    Did  it  seem  to  have  more  or  less  the 
same  morphology,  in  addition  to  the  variation  in 
vesicle  size  that  the  other  rocks  in  the  vicinity 
of  the  AI£EP,  and  the  other  rocks  out  at  Station  1 
had? 

IMP-LM     It's  veiy  comparable  to  the  ones  that  we  saw  at 
Station  1,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 


Tape  83A/15 


CC  Okay,  I  copy  that, 

CDR-LM     Both  types  of  rocks  were  there,  both  variations. 

CC  Do  you  have  a  feeling  for  where  the  big  blocks  in 

the  LM  ALSEP  area  came  from?    Do  you  think  they 
were  from  Camel ot,  like  I've  been  saying? 

LMP-LM     Don't  have  an  idea  yet ,  I 'in  really  not  sure. 

CC  Okay,  and  as  you  drove  a].ong  on  the  traverse  from 

the  SEP  to  Station  1,  did  the  size  of  the  small 
craters  with  blocky  rims  vary?    In  other  words, 
what  we  are  looking  for  here  is  the  variation  in 
the  thickness  of  the  dsxk  mantle? 

LMP-M     I  can't  answer  that  one  yet,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     Let  me  sum  up  by  saying,  that  I  guess  as  I 

indicated  before,  our  best  guess  is  that  the 
vesicular  crystalline  rock,  probably  gabbro,  or  I 
think  you've  been  calling  it  intermediate  basalt 
or  gabbro,  forms  at  least  the  upper  part  of  the 
subfloor.    I  don't  think  we've  been  close  enou^ 
to  a  large  crater  rim  to  say  that  it's  a  -  what 
the  deep  sections  of  the  subfloor  form,  but  we 
think  that  this  intermedj-ate  gabbro  vesiculeir 
rock,  at  least  medium- grained,  perhaps  coarse- 
grained rock,  forms  at  least  the  upper  layer  of  the 
subfloor.  Over. 

LMP-LM     Yes,  Bob,  I  think  that's  pretty  safe,  riglit  now. 

Once  again,  I'm  surprised  that  it's  as  coarse  as 
it  is ,  that  being  the  upper  portion  of  a  plains 
unit. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM     Say,  Bob,  driving  back  from  Station  1,  driving  back 
from  Station  1,  where  we  did  some  of  our  circling 
and  what  have  you.    We  didn't  have  time  to  get  off, 
bxit  we  did  see  down  in  -  I  don't  remember  whether 
it  was  in  the  slopes  of  some  craters ,  or  down  on 
the  slope  itself,  but  I'd  say  several  meters  down 
below  the  inantle  where  there  was,  what  we  almost 
agreed  to,  might  be  bedrock  at  least,  a  deeper 
portfLon  of  the  subfloor. 


Tape  83A/16 


CC  Okay,  well,  I  think  we'll  get  to  it  tomorrow.  I 

think  I  might  Just  give  you  a  clue  to  our  thinking 
for  tomorrow.    But,  I  don't  think  we've  seen,  or 
done  anything  today  that  is  going  to  make  us  change 
very  much  from  the  nominal  station  of  ~  nominal 
EVA-2  plans.    OSie  fact  we  didn't  get  the  station  - 
to  the  EVA-1  at  the  large  houlders  at  Emory  is 
probably  going  to  mean  that  Station  5  might  be 
shifted  a  little  bit  to  the  boulders  on  Camelot. 
But  certainly  Station  5  on  the  subfloor  and  also 
to  Station  10  have  assumed  a  higher  priority  than 
they  originally  had.    Other  than  that  I,  don't 
think  we'll  see  an  awful  lot  of  changes  to  EVA-2 
Over. 

05  01^  06  15    LMP-LM     Okay    Bob.    I  think  that's  safe.    I  suppose  some- 
body s  thinking  about  the  possibility  of  going  down 
to  Emory.    Maybe  you  Just  said  that.    Going  dovm 
to  Emory  late  in  EVA-3. 


CC 


CC 


I  think  at  the  moment  they're  thinking  primarily 
^ey  re  going  to  Station  10,  and  not  going  to 
Station  1. 


Okay,  Jack,  I've  wrested  control  - 

LMP-LM     Some  of  your  experts  might  

CC  Gk>  ahead, 

LMP-LM     -  -  some  of  your  experts  might  think  about  what 

they  might  expect  to  happen  to  put  the  regolith  on 
a  bigrain  pyroclastic  would  look  like. 

CC  Okay. 


CC 


We'll  tell  them.    I'll  see  you  tomorrow,  guys, 


IMP-LM     Sleep  well.  Bob. 

05  Ok  07  29    CDR-LM     Okay,  I've  Just  got  one  question.  Bob,  before  you 

run  off.    Did  the  TGA  perform  okay,  with  the  - 
vlth  the  camera  on? 


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APOLLO  IT  ArR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  OU  OT  39    CC  As  far  as  I  could  tell,  Geno,  it  did.    As  a  matter 

of  fact,  I  didn't  see  the  gravimeter  people  after- 
wards to  talk  to  them.    But  as  far  as  I  could  tell, 
it  did.    We  had  one  funny  reading  back  at  the  LM 
very  early  when  it  was  on  the  ground,  which  I 'm 
at  a  loss  to  understand  right  off.     But  other  than 
that  everything  seems  to  have  gone  very  well.  The 
readings  were  quite  uniform  in  fact,  which  makes 
me  think  they  went  well. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  well,  I'd  like  to  leave  it  -  You  know  it's 

a  little  change  in  my  thinking  -  I'd  like  to  leave 
it  on  the  Rover  if  we  can,  although  it's  a  piece 
of  cake  to  take  off.     It's  very  difficult  to  lean 
over  that  "bar  without  losing  your  balance  and 
taking  your  -  your  readings  and  what  have  you. 
So  if  we  can  leave  it  on  it  would  be  far  better. 

CC  Roger.     I  was  noticing  that.    And  I  also  noticed 

the  only  three  -  three-ball  reading  we  got  was 
whsn  it  was  on  the  gro\md. 

CDR-LM      Yes . 

CC  Gene  and  Jack,  if  you'll  get  Lunar  Siirface  Check- 

list 3-5 »  I've  got  an  easy  change  to  read  up 
to  you. 

CDR-LM     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    After  the  line:     "Empty  ETB  As  Follows," 

change  the  first  line  which  reads,  B&W  Mag  Golf  In 
Forward  RHSSC  to  read,  B&W  Mag  Hotel  In  LCG  Com- 
partment.    And  then  go  into  the  next  column, 
which  begins,  "Stow  In  ETB."    Change  the  second 
line,  which  reads:     LMP's  Camera  With  B&W  Mag 
Hotel  to  MP's  Camera  With  B&W  Mafe  Golf.  That's 
Mag  G,  ETB.  Over. 

CDR-LM      Got  you.    Hotel,  stow  it;  and  go  out  with  Gulf. 


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CC  That's  got  it.    And  I've  got  a  LEVA-cleaning 

procedure  which  maybe  you  could  pencil  in  there. 
It's  an  easy  three-step  procedure.    And  I'll  go 
ahead  and  read  it  step-hy-step  here.    Step  num- 
ber 1  is  tap  LEVA  base  to  remove  loose  dust. 
Step  number  2  reads;     If  excess  dust  still  re- 
mains, use  a  towel  from  the  LM  tissue  dispenser, 
which  has  been  wetted  with  water,  and  gently 
wipe  the  visor  from  the  top  to  the  bottom;  that 
is,  in  one  direction.    And  fold  this  towel  after 
each  wipe  to  keep  the  contact  sturface  clean. 
There's  a  note.     "Take  care  not  to  wet  the  inside 
that  is,  the  concave  surface  of  the  gold  visor." 
And  the  last  step  is:     Allow  it  to  air-dry.  And 
that's  it  on  the  LEVA  cleaning. 

05  01+  11  20    CDR-LM      Okay,  Joe,  we  got  that.    The  Commander's  PLSS 

has  had  its  final  charge,  and  we're  in  the  process 
of  working  on  the  LMPs  PLSS  now.     I  guess  there's 
no  way  to  verify  how  much  water  you've  got  in 
there  except  to  go  through  the  procedure. 

CC  That's  right,  Geno.    And  we  think  you  fellows 

have  earned  a  good  meal  now,  and  maybe  you  can 
take  the  rest  of  the  day  off. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Joe.    Thank  you. 

05  ok  17  1+5    LMP-LM      Okay,  Joe.     Just  to  bring  you  up  to  date  on 

magazines.    Mag  Bravo  has  77  frames. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-LM     Mag  Hotel  has  83  frames. 
CC  Roger. 

CC  Jack,  on  yoijir  mag  Hotel,  we'd  showed  you  all  the 

way  up  to  183  at  one  time,  on  that.     Did  you  miss 
the  1,  this  time? 


LMP-LM 


I  may  have  clipped  it  out,  Joe.     I83,  yes. 


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cc  Okay,  yes,  you  did  clip  it  out,  clipped  it  out 

cleanly.    So  thanks  for  verifying  that. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  mag  Romeo  has  21  frames.    And  I  took  a  few, 
random,  and  probably  not  very  good  500-millimeter 
of  the  Korth  and  South  Massifs  -  Morth  and  South 
Massifs. 

05  01+  22  1+6    CC  Okay,  Jack,    Thank  you. 

LMP-LM      And,  Joe,  verify  that  you  want  mag  Charlie  sub- 
stituted for  Mag  Bravo  on  the  CDRs  camera. 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-LM      Don't  get  me  wrong.     I  think  it's  a  good  idea, 

Joe.    Don't  let  everybody  work  all  night  on  that 
one. 

CC  Jack,  I  think  the  answer  to  that  is  yes.     Per  the 

checklist,  by  the  way.     That's  the  way  we  show 
it  in  our  checklist  here. 

LMP-LM      Roger.     We  just  have  -  probably  have  a  -  about 

100  frames  left  on  Bravo,  so  we'll  Just  keep  track 
of  that. 

CC  Jack,  it'll  go  out  later  on  -  Bravo  will  -  It's  - 

apparently,  it's  kind  of  your  backup  magazine 
there. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

05  01+  25  30    CC  The  reason  being,  we  want  to  start  that  EVA-2 

with  a  fresh  mag. 

05  Oi+  30  31    LMP-LM     Hey,  Joe.    Bob  told  us  earlier,  the  sounder 

looked  like  it  was  working. 

CC  Gene  and  Jack,  just  a  general  comment  on  that. 

SIM  bay's  cooking  along  beautifully.    We  are 
getting  lunar  soimder  data.     It  looks  quite 
interesting.     We've  only  got  one  or  two  annoying 
problems,  but  nothing  major,  that  is  with  the 
SIM  bay,  not  with  the  sounder.    One  of  them  being 
that  we  have  o\ir  usual  mapping  camera  extend 
problem.    And  we've  just  decided  to  leave  it  ex- 
tended and  it  will  serve  it  right  if  it  gets  a 
little  contaminated  with  an  occasional  dump.  And 


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I  guess  there's  a  minor  problem  with  one  of  the 
"big  eintennas.     It  didn't  pass  its  retract  check 
properly,  so  I  guess  it  may  have  to  be  Jettisoned 
when  we  do  a  plane  change.     Otherwise,  things  are 
working  beautifully.  Over. 

05  01+  32  05    LMP-LM     That  sounds  great,  I'm  glad  to  hear  that. 

05  05  02  56    LMP-LM      HoTiston,  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-LM     We're  sort  of  around  27:30  in  the  checklist, 

more  or  less,  and  you  want  the  POWER  AMP  and  TM 
to  high? 

CC  Ready  when  you  are.    And,  troops,  are  you  raiding 

the  pantry  up  there  yet? 

LMP-LM     Yes,  we  are.    We've  been  hitting  it  as  hard  as  we 
can.    Okay,  POWER  AMP  is  going  to  PRIMARY  and  PCM 
to  HIC3I.    And,  while  we're  waiting  for  Gene  to 
look  at  this  computer,  shall  I  do  the  battery 
management? 

CC  Jack,  stemd  by,  lontil  we  get  the  high  bit  rate, 

on  that  battery  management.    And,  a  reminder,  are 
you  recharging  that  PLSS  number  2  there,  or  have 
you  taken  that  off  the  line? 

LMP-LM     No,  we're  -  we're  through  with  that.    We  caught 
it  with  10  minutes. 

CC  Okay.     We've  got  high  bit  rate  now.     Go  ahead  with 

battery  management. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  we'll  play  it  -  Gene '11  work  the  computer, 
and  I'll  work  the  batteries.     And  the  ED  volts 
are  37.2,  both  bateries. 

CC  Thank  you. 

05  05  05  56    UfP-m      Okay,  you  got  POO  and  DATA,  Joe. 


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05  05  07  35    CO  Thank  you. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  Joe,  the  battery  management  complete.  How 
does  the  rest  of  the  spacecraft  look,  what  you 
can  see  of  it? 

CC  Okay,  Jackie.     Copy  the  hattery  management  complete, 

and  the  Challenger's  looking  beautiful  from  down 
here. 

LMP-LM      I  guess  you  don't  have  telemetry  on  dust  yet,  huh? 

CC  Negative  on  the  dust.    And  the  computer's  yours. 

Sounds  like  you've  got  hay  fever  sensors,  as  far 
as  that  dust  goes. 

LMP-LM      It's  come  on  pretty  fast  just  since  I  came  back. 
I  think  as  soon  as  the  cabin  filters  most  of 
this  out  that  is  in  the  air,  I'll  be  all  right. 
But  I  didn't  know  I  had  lunar  dust  hay  fever. 

CC  It's  funny  they  don't  check  for  that.  Maybe 

that's  the  trouble  with  the  cheap  noses,  Jack. 

LMP-LM      Could  be.     I  don't  know  why  we  couldn't  have 
gone  and  smelled  some  dust  in  the  LRL  Just  to 
find  out. 

CC  Goodness  knows  we've  tried. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I'll  wait  for  your  cue  on  the  rest  of  it. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     TELEMETRY  PCM  -  LO,  and  your  POWER 

AMP  -  OFF,  please. 

LMP-LM  Roger. 

CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston  requesting  DOWNVOICE 

BACKUP,  and  then  configure  your  ECS  for  sleep  at 
your  convenience. 

05  05  10  51    LMP-LM      Okay,  we're  working  in  that  direction.  DOWWVOICE 

BACKUP,  now. 


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CC  Okay,  Jack  and  Gene.    And,  unless  you've  got 

questions,  or  we  can  help  you  out  in  some  way, 
we'll  say  good  night  to  you. 

CDR-LM      Good  morning. 

CDR-LM     The  reason  I  say  that,  Joe,  it's  going  to  be 
another  30  minutes  or  so  anyway  tefore  we  - 
protably  more  like  an  hour  before  we  actually 
close  our  eyes. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    You  think  you'll  he  able  to  use 

about  30  more  minutes  of  sleep  tomorrow  morning? 
What's  your  wish  on  that? 

CDR-LM     Yes,  I'd  like  to  try  to  get  the  full  amount.  As 
I  recall,  tomorrow's  a  little  bit  flexible.  If 
we  get  up  30  minutes  late,  it  doesn't  really 
hurt  us. 

CC  Sounds  like  a  good  way  to  proceed.     We'll  give 

you  the  full  8  hours.     Good  night,  Geno,  And, 
you  do  have  a  time  pad  in  there,  so  it  shouldn't 
hurt  a  thing. 

CDR-IM     Yes,  as  long  -  the  big  object  tomorrow  is  to  get 
out,  and  get  back  in,  and  the  same  thing  with  the 
next  day.    I  don't  think  we're  really  that  time 
critical  either  day  that  we  can't  go  an  hour 
either  way.    And  I  think  we'd  prefer  to  have  the 
full  8  tonight. 

CC  Roger,    We  couldn't  agree  with  you  more.    And  if 

there's  anyway  we  can  be  helping  you  now,  just 
speak  up. 

CDR-LM  No,  you've  been  doing  -  doing  fine.  We  just  got 
a  little  housecleaning  we  got  to  do  that's  going 
to  take  us  -  I  expect  we'll  be  an  hour  late,  Joe. 


05  05  21  56    LMP-IM      Hey,  Joe, 


CC 


Go  ahead. 


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LMP-LM      Some  ambiguity  in  your  statement.    You  want  us 

to  use  a  tissue  or  a  towel  on  that  visor  cleaning? 

CC  Jack,  they  call  it  -  they  call  it  a  towel,  "but  it 

comes  from  the  LM  tissue  dispenser,  so  I  would 
interpret  that  to  mean  tissue. 

LMP-LM     Well,  you  and  I  are  thinking  alike.    But  can  you 
ask  hack  there  and  find  out? 

CC  Asking  right  now. 

CC  Jack,  our  guess  was  right  on  the  cleaning  of  the 

visors  there.     We're  to  use  a  tissue  from  the  LM 
tissue  dispenser.    And  I've  got  an  unrelated 
question  for  you.    We're  tracing  water  usage  down 
here.     Coiild  you  tell  us,  please,  if  you  filled 
your  drink  dispensers  -  refilled  the  drink  dis- 
pensers in  the  suit  already?  Over. 

LMP-LM  That's  affirm.     We  have, 

CC  Okay.    Thank  you. 

LMP-LM  We  have  been  drinking  quite  a  bit  of  water,  Joe. 

05  05  2k  59    CC  Okay.    Thank  you. 

LMP-LM  Houston;  Challenger.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  You're  loud  and  clear.     Go  ahead. 

LMP-LM      Joe,  I  just  took  a  -  quick  look  with  the  hand 

lens  at  that  large  rock  I  brought  in ,  and  I ' 11  - 
I  don't  think  there's  much  more  than  30  percent 
plagioclase.     I'll  go  back  -  could  be  more  of  a 
standard  basalt  or  gabbro.    It  has  a  fair  propor- 
tion of  ilmenite  in  it,  I  believe.     There's  a 
bright  platelets  -  in  the  vugs  or  vesicles  -  of 
ilmenite.    Now  it  could  be  that  the  glass  -  if 
the  soil  is  very  glassy,  that  it's  developed  the 
darker  color  from  the  contribution  of  the  -  of  the 
basic  minersLls  through  the  glass,  particularly 
the  iron  and  the  titanium. 


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CC  Roger,  Jack.     Copy  that.    Sounds  interesting. 

LMP-LM     All  it  means  is  that  we  don't  yet  know  the  origin 
of  the  dark  mantle. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM      That  rock  -  looks  I  may  have,  by  accident,  sampled 
the  front  side  of  one  of  the  parting  planes  that 
I  mentioned.     Very,  very  sharply  boimded  on  one 
side  by  a  planar  surface. 

05  05  29  52    CC  Roger,  Jack.     Say  again.    You  may  have  sampled  by 

accident  the  side  -  the  side  of  what? 

LMP-LM     No,  I  didn't.     I  mentioned  when  I  sampled  it,  it 
had  one  very  planar  surface,  and  looking  at  it 
more  closely,  it  looks  like  one  of  those  parting 
planes  that  I  talked  about  even  earlier  in  the  EVA. 

CC  Roger.     Copy.     Parting  planes,  thank  you. 

LMP-LM      It's  like  a  parting  shot. 

CC  Of  which  you've  been  known  to  have  an  overabundance, 

by  the  way. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  I  didn't  know  that, 

CC  All  us  fast  finishers  do. 

UG>-IM      That's  right.     You  got  to  figure  out  what  race 
you're  in  though,  first,  Joe. 

CC  I'm  sure  that  Sherlock  Holmes  would  have  a  suitable 

quotation  to  answer  that.  Jack.     I  just  can't  come 
up  with  it  right  now.     Something  like  "therein, 
Watson,  lies  the  problem"  -  - 

LMP-LM      That,  in  itself,  is  a  singular  event. 

LMP-LM     But  the  dog  did  nothing  in  the  nighttime,  Joe. 


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CC  And  when  you've  examined  all  possibilities  and 

eliminated  all  but  the  very  improbable  ones, 
then  the  improbable  one  must  mean  the  truth. 

LMP-LM      I  told  you,  he  was  a  good  geologist,  one  of  the 
experts  on  the  soils  of  London.    Wot  to  mention 
their  relationship  to  all  kinds  and  brands  of 
tobacco. 

CC  Jack,  maybe  we  better  get  off  onto  another  vein. 

Surgeon's  giving  me  a  puzzled  look  over  here.  We 
may  be  getting  in  trouble. 

LMP-LM  You  want  to  talk  about  veins  -  now  that ' s  some- 
thing an  old  ore  geologist  could  talk  about  all 
night. 

CC  Ore  geologists  and  cardiologists  alike. 

LMP-LM     Thou  strlkest  for  the  jugTilar. 

CC  Jack,  we  running  a  contest  down  here  to  come  up 

with  a  reply  to  that.     We're  getting  a  request, 
many  requests,  for  a  weather  report.    We've  been 
missing  your  weather  report  and  wonder  what  the 
weather  is  on  the  Moon  right  now. 

LMP-LM     Well,  the  Moon's  weather  is  clear  and  sunny.  It's 
only  scattered  clouds,  and  all  of  those  seem  to 
be  attached  to  the  Earth. 

CC  Except  for  a  cloud  of  diist  around  the  right  rear 

wheel  of  the  Rover,  we've  noticed. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  but  dissipates  in  the  morning  warmth.  Believe 
it  or  not,  Joe,  I'm  going  to  be  off  the  air  briefly. 

05  05  35  15    CC  So  far,  I  don't  believe  that. 

LMP-LM      Well,  if  you  don't  get  any  heart  beat  for  a  little 
while,  don't  worry. 

05  05  35  32    CC  Okay. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAIfSCRIPTION 


03  06  22  37    LMP-LM     Joe,  we're  asleep.     There's  no  need  to  answer. 

See  you  in  the  morning.  [Talking  in  his  sleep 
apparently ] . 


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86B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRANSCRIFTIOlt 

05  08  k3  33    CC  Hello,  America;  this  is  Houston.    Good  morning, 

sir. 

CMP  Roberta? 

CC  Hey  there,  Ron.    I  heard  some  signs  of  life  there. 

CMP  Let's  see.     I  -  got  w  DUPLEX,  OFF,  there  so  I 

won't  talk  to  those  guys  on  the  surface. 

CC  TOiat's  a  good  idea.    We  don't  want  to  wake  them 

up. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  Ron,  we're  going  to  he  going  LOS  here  in  about 

3  minutes.    Just  wanted  to  get  you  up.  We're 
letting  the  LMies  sleep  over  -  sleep  in  an  extra 
hour  this  morning.  Over. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     I'll  get  my  Flight  Plan  out  here  and 

see  what  I'm  supposed  to  he  doing.  Prohably 
Just  eating  thou^,  I  think  isn't  it? 

CC  That's  ri^t.    Get  up,  turn  the  VHF  A,  OFF,  change 

your  canister,  and  have  breakfast. 

05  08  h3  h9    CMP  Okay.    Sounds  good.    That's  what  we'll  do  then. 

05  09  11  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  23 

05  09  **3  05    CC  Hello  there,  America.    How's  breakfast  this 

morning? 

CMP  Scrant)led  eggs  and  bacon.    Not  bad  at  all. 

CC  Sounds  better  than  what  I  had. 


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CMP  It's  really  not  bad.     Cocoa  and  orange  juice  along 

with  it.    Even  have  four  toasted  "bread  cuhes. 

CC  Very  good. 

CMP  Hey,  Gordo.    Do  you  have  any  sort  of  -  some  kind 

of  a  ground  truth  wrap-up  of  the  first  EVA  as  far 
as  the  type  of  material  they  ran  across  down  there 
and  things  like  that? 

CC  Ron,  I  kind  of  personally  -  on  and  off.    Let  me 

work  on  a  good  summaiy,  and  I'll  come  back  to  you 
on  that. 

CMP  Okay.     Nothing  elaborate  but  Just  -  you  know  - 

CC  Okay.    Talking  about  the  America  though,  your 

consumables  -  You're  3.8  percent  high  on  RCS 
auantity.    On  the  0^,  well  -  all  the  points  of 

the  three  tanks  have  fallen  between  the  -  the  two 
sets  of  lines  on  your  graph  with  a  total  result 
as  on  ©2  you're  about  10  poTinds  below  the  average 

quantity  expected.    However,  your  trend  is 
paralleling  the  lines  and  that's  of  absolutely  no 
concern.    On  hydrogen,  by  best  guess  is  you're 
probably  a  little  bit  high,  total.    Your  Tank  1 
is  right  on  the  line;  Tank  2  is  -  oh,  about 
6  or  7  percent  hi^;  and  Tank  3  is  about  k  percent 
high,  so  you're  fat  on  hydrogen.  Over. 

CMP  That  doesn't  sound  too  bad  then,  does  it? 


CC  No.    It  sounds  great. 

05  09       h3    CMP  Sounds  good,  I  think. 

05  09  1*8  56    CMP  Houston,  America.    I  can  give  you  the  old  CMP's 

medical  log,  if  you  want  to  do  it. 


CC 
CMP 


Okay,  Ron.    Go  ahead. 


Okay.     PKD  is  -  You  didn't  cut  out  on  me  (laughter). 
W  orange  juice  is  leaking.    Okay,    PRD  is  I5038. 
Had  about  6  hours  of  good  sleep.    Took  me  about  an 


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hour  to  get  things  squared  away  last  ni^t.  Then 
I  woke  up  early  this  morning.    Didn't  take  any 
medication.    And  I  had  four  cans  of  fluid. 

Okay. 

Okay,  on  the  menu.    Did  I  give  you  day  5,  meal  A, 
yesterday  or  not? 

I  guess  you  did  not. 

Okay.     Spiced  oat  cereal,  sausage  patties,  instant 
hreakfast,  coffee,  and  a  half  an  ambrosia.  Okay. 
Four  frankfurters,  ate  the  pears,  chocolate 
pudding,  grape  drink,  and,  in  addition,  I  had  a 
grape  punch,  package  of  brownies,  package  of 
graham  crackers ,  and  two  gingerbreads .    Yes ,  for 
the  bottom  one  there,  I  had  turkey  and  gravy,  and 
an  orange  beverage,  and  if  I  find  my  chocolate 
bar,  I'm  going  to  eat  it  today.    But  I  didn't  eat 
it  yet.    Oh,  yes,  and  I  had  the  vitamins  yesterday 
too. 

Okay,  Ron. 

Ron,  if  you'd  like,  I  could  give  you  a  summary  of 
the  EVA-l.    I'm  Just  sort  of  editing  the  report 
put  out  by  the  back  room  on  that. 

Sure.    Go  ahead,  Gordo;  Appreciate  it. 

Okay.    I'll  read  a  few  selected  excerpts  here. 
The  surface  etround  the  landing  site  is  generally 
an  undulating  plain,  which  was  somewhat  rougher 
and  had  a  greater  abundance  of  blocks  than  was 
expected  by  the  astronauts.     It  is  saturated  with 
small  craters  not  exceeding  a  few  centimeters  in 
size  but  not  with  larger  craters.     Small  craters 
commonly  have  glass  on  their  floors.  Boulders 
ranging  from  about  1/2  meter  to  k  meters  are 
common.    All  of  them  axe  partieilly  buried  or 
covered  with  the  dust  of  the  dark  mantle.    In  one 
locality,  a  crater  of  about  1  meter  deep  pentrated 
the  relatively  fine  dark  surface  material  and 
excavated  small  blocks.    Other  shallower  craters 


in  this  area  did  not  fully  penetrate  the  mantle. 
This  fact,  together  with  the  abundance  of  small 
boulders  on  and  near  the  surface,  indicates  that 
the  dark  mantle  is  relatively  thin.    A  minor 
amount  of  dust  noted  upon  landing  suggested  a 
thin  layer  of  fine  grain  unconsolidated  material. 
Footprints  and  LEV  tracks  left  firm  impressions 
in  the  fine  grain  material  when  darker  material 
was  kicked  up  from  underneath.    At  the  ALSEP  site, 
the  drill  encountered  harder  material  several  times 
and  definitely  seem  to  reach  harder  material  at 
about  a  T-foot  depth.    The  deep  drill  core 
apparently-  also  bottomed  in  harder  material.  In 
the  core,  the  material  was  noted  to  be  cohesive, 
and  it  contained  more  fragments  than  did  the 
surflcial  material.    Predominant  rock  type  between 
the  LM  and  Steno  Crater  is  medium  grained, 
vesicular  or  nonvesicular  basalts  or  gabbro.  They 
contain  about  equal  amounts  of  plagioclase  and 
pyroxene  along  with  less  abundant  opaque  material. 
The  guys  took  a  total  of  -  well,  they  took  a  lot 
of  pictures.     They  had  229  color  and  197  black- 
and-white  during  EVA-1.    And  they  got  17  samples 
in  addition  to  the  deep  drill  core.     Three  were 
large,  unbagged  rocks,  and  the  total,  excluding 
the  core,  estimated  to  weigh  about  13  kilograms 
so  far,  and  they  traveled  about  3  kilometers  in 
the  Rover.    As  a  summary  conclusion,  the  observa- 
tions made  on  the  first  EVA  support  the  premission 
interpretation  that  at  least  the  upper  part  of 
the  subfloor  materials  consist  of  basaltic  lava 
flow.    The  overlying  dark  mantle  may  be  part  of  the 
regolith  on  subfloor  material,  but  the  possibility 
that  it  is  an  independent  unit  remains  open  and 
will  be  tested  by  observations  on  second  and  third 
EVAs.    Both  the  dark  mantle  and  upper  subfloor 
units  contain  remarkably  little  foreign  material 
between  the  ALSEP  site  and  Steno  with  suggests 
conrparatively  young  ages.  Over. 

Hey,  that  sounds  like  a  good  report  there.    They  - 
sounds  like  they  got  a  lot  of  stuff  done  and  also 
getting  a  lot  of  good  information  out  of  it  already. 


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CC  Yes.     I  think  that's  a  safe  conclusion.  They're 

going  to  get  a  lot  more  today. 

05  09  55  52    CMP  Oh,  you  bet. 

05  09  58  01    CC  Ron,  for  your  information,  the  ALSEP  seems  to  he 

working  pretty  well.    The  central  station  and  all 
the  experiments  with  the  exception  of  one  are 
working  normally.    The  one  that's  giving  them 
trouble  is  the  LEAM,  and  the  data  on  the  LEAM 
doesn't  seem  to  want  to  sync  up  properly.  They're 
thinking  that  one  over  and  maybe  have  something 
for  them  to  try  to  get  that  to  -  to  work  right. 
Over. 


05  09  58  33    CMP  Oh.    Okay.    Mighty  fine. 

05  10  11  1*5    CC  America,  Houston.    I  have  a  couple  of  Flight  Plan 

updates  to  give  you.    We  suggest  you  take  them 
down  before  you  start  the  P52,  at  your  convenience. 
Joast  so  we  don't  interrupt  your  preparation  for 
the  zodiacal  light. 


CMP  Okay.    Got  mag  XX  from  the  camera,  finally.  Some- 

thing about  the  zero  g  -  it  kind  of  pulls  that 
crazy  little  cassette  back  out  of  the  way,  and 
you  have  a  heck  of  a  time  getting  the  lid  closed 
on  that. 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay.    Ready  for  updates. 

CC  Okay.     Your  T-start  time  for  zodiacal  light,  goes 

in  there  at  133:25,  is  133  -  - 

CMP  Okay.    Have  it. 

CC  -  -  28:03. 

CMP  T-start,  133:28:03. 

CC  That's  correct,  and  then  flip  the  page  over  to 

131+ :  35. 


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CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  write  in  "C3iarge  Battery  A." 

CMP  Charge  Batt  A  at  13^+:  35. 

05  10  13  12    CC  Affirmative.    At  bottom  of  the  same  column,  at 

13U:5U,  delete  "MAPPING  CAMERA,  RETRACT."  And 
also  a  couple  of  lines  later,  delete  "MAPPING 
CAMEatA/LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER,  CLOSED." 


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Tape  87B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUTfD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  10  13  36    CMP  Okay.     We  deleted  the  retraction  of  the  mapping 

camera  and  also  deleted  covering  the  -  closing 
the  mapping  camera/laser  altimeter. 

CC  That's  affirmative.    Above  that  whole  sequence, 

ve  have  some  verifies  for  you.     You  can  write  this 
in  about  13^:50.     Actually,  you  better  start  - 
start  a  little  higher  to  have  room.     "Verify  all 
VHF  OFF  for  sounder  pass."    And  here  are  the  - 
the  steps.     "VHF  AM,  A  and  B,  OFF.     VHF  AM,  RECEIVE 
OKLY,  OFF.     VHF  BEACON,  OFF.     And  VHF  RANGING,  OFF." 
Four  steps  there .     Over . 

05  10  Ik  h6    CMP  Okay.     We'll  just  verify  that  all  VHF  is  OFF  for 

sounder  operations.     VHF,  A  and  B,  OFF.  RECEIVE, 
OFF.    And  RECEIVE  ONLY,  OFF.     BEACON,  OFF.  And 
RANGING,  OFF. 

CC  Okay.     That's  all  you  got   

05  10  15  00     CMP  RANGING  is  OFF.     BEACON  has  been  OFF.     RECEIVE  ONLY 

is  ON.  Okay. 

Cl^  Hey,  Gordy.     How's  the  fidelity  on  my  transmissions 

with  the  way  I  got  the  microphone  set  now? 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    You  sound  pretty  good  to  me. 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  have  this  comm  carrier  on  very 

tight.     I  just  wanted  to  make  s\xre  1  was  still 
coming  through  all  right. 

CC  Yes,  think  it's  perfectly  adequate. 

CMP  Okay . 

05  10  18  22    CC  Ron,  we'd  like  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

05  10  18  27     CMP  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO.     You  have  it. 

CC  Thank  you. 


CMP 


( Cough ) 


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CC  Looks  like  another  good  one,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Was  it  good?    Torque  them  up. 

05  10  19  51    CMP  ...  at  133:01. 

CC  Okay. 

05  10  25  58    CC  America,  Houston.    Give  us  ACCEPT,  and  we  give  you 

a  vector. 

05  10  26  07    CMP  Okay.    You  have  ACCEPT. 

05  10  28  ill    CC  America,  Houston.    It's  your  computer  now. 

CMP  Okay.    Back  to  BLOCK. 

05  10  31  36    CMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  enable  jets  Charlie  3  and  Dog  3. 

Disable  Bravo  3  and  Alfa  3. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

OC  Ron,  just  for  general  information  on  your  platform 

drift  rates.     Not  too  tad.     X  is  minus  O.OOT  de- 
grees per  hour,  Y  -  min  -  plus  0.002,  and  Z  is 
really  hard  to  believe.     It's  a  minus  0.0003  de- 
grees per  hour. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Hey,  that's  beautiful. 


CC 


CC 


That's  got  to  be  some  kind  of  record. 


CMP  Boy,  I  guess 


We  may  just  cancel  all  further  P52s . 


CMP  (Laughter)    Yes,  they're  kind  of  easy  here  in 

lunar  orbit.    All  except  that  one  that  I  didn't 
get  done  on  time  yesterday.    By  the  time  I  got 
around  to  doing  it,  I  was  pointing  right  at  the 
Moon.     Roll  and  pitch.     It  was  daylight,  and  I 
couldn't  see  any  stars.     Finally  got  to  the  right 
attitude,  so  that  the  PICAPAR  would  work. 

CC  Roger. 


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05  10  hi  30    CMP  Well,  Gordo.     Looks  like  I'll  lose  you  right  in 

the  middle  of  this  zodiacal  light  sequencer. 

CC  That's  right.     We  aren't  going  to  be  ahle  to  be 

much  help.     I'll  give  you  a  little  warning  before 
T-start.     But  you're  on  your  own  after  that,  I 
guess . 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

05  10  1+7  31    CC  Ron,  you  have  about  30  seconds  now  until  T-start. 

CMP  Ah,  hah.     Okay.     28:03,  we'll  start  the  clock. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

05  10  U8  h9    CC  Ron,  it's  about  time  -  coming  up  on  time  to  start 

the  90-second  exposure . 

CMP  Okay . 

05  10  50  19    CC  Coming  up  on  time  to  close  the  shutter  now. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  America.     We're  just  about  LOS.     See  you  on 

the  other  side. 

05  10  51  h3    CMP  Okay,  Gordo.    Thank  you  much. 

05  11  10  XX  BEGIN  LUKAR  REV  2k 


05  11  37  57    CMP  And  out  on  the  -  on  the  sides  of  the  wall,  also, 

there's  another  fresh  impact  just  south  of  . . . 
I  guess  it's  more  west  really. 


CC  Hello,  America. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.    America's  here.    The  -  the  zodiacal 

light  seq_uence  worked  real  well.     Oddly  enough,  I 
ended  up  right  (laughter)  on  the  right  setting 
with  the  right  times  and  everything.    The  only 
thing  is  on  the  8-minute  -  on  the  8-minute  picture, 
for  some  reason,  I  didn't  notice  that  the  shutter 
shut  as  soon  as  I  took  it  instead  of  60  seconds 
later.     So  we  just  missed  that  picture  altogether. 

S 


Okay,  Ron.  Understand. 


But  the  time  ve  worked  out  good.     It  was  about 
2  seconds  after  the  lh:50  -  seq.uence.     Not  2  sec- 
onds -  about  1  second  after  the  ih-.^O  sequence. 
And  the  Sun  came  up. 

Okay. 

It's  going  to  be  hard  to  -  to  determine  any  real 
relief  around  the  vicinity  of  Saenger  right  in 
there,  because  it's  right  at  the  zero  phase  point 
now. 

Roger. 

Ron,  here's  some  words  on  what  we've  been  seeing 
in  the  sounder  and  the  optical  recorder  when  you 
get  a  free  moment. 

Okay.  I'm  just  kind  of  looking  out  the  window  now, 
Gordo.     Go  ahead. 

Okay.    According  to  our  rather  crude  read-out  on 
film  remaining,  it  looks  like  we're  using  more 
film  than  we  should  be  in  the  recorder,  and  - 
it's  -  if  you  add  up  the  amount  of  film  used  ac- 
cording to  that  telemetry  compared  to  some  times 
when  the  RECORDER  has  been  ON  and  also  in  STANDBY, 
it  looks  like  there's  a  possibility  they  Jive  to 
show  that  we  might  be  pulling  film  through  the 
RECORDER  in  -  while  we're  in  STANDBY.     This  is 
unlikely  because  it  takes  a  couple  of  failures 
that  we  don't  think  are  really  likely  at  all,  but 
we're  going  to  try  to  run  a  little  test  at  13^^:50, 
during  that  sequence  of  getting  set  up  with  the 
VHF  sounder  pass. 

It  will  just  involve  a  couple  of  switch  throwings 
by  you  to  try  to  conclusively  prove  that  this  is 
or  is  not  the  case.  Over. 

Oh,  okay.     Mighty  fine.     Sure.     ¥hen  you  get  to 
it  there,  just  holler  out  the  switches  because 
I'll  be  over  at  the  panel  at  that  time. 


Tape  87B/5 


CC  Okay. 

05  11  h6  51    CMP  I  kind  of  hope  our  telemetry  is  wrong. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  88B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GEOUKD  VOICK  TRMSCRIPTIOK 


05  11  k3  50    CMP  Microphone  set  now? 

05  11  k9  22    CMP  How'd  you  like  to  have  the  PAN  CAMERA  POWER,  ON, 

here? 

CC  Okay.    We're  ready. 

05  11  ^9  35     CMP  Okay.     MODE  is  to  STANDBY;  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is 

coming  ON. 

CMP  You  know,  Houston,  just  west  of  Condorcet  and  on 

the  edge  of  -  - 

CC  Okay.    We  need  the  PAN  CAMERA,  OFF  now,  and  then 

go  -  - 

05  11  51  lit    CMP   the  hills  down  in  there.     Oh,  okay.  PAN 

CAMERA  is  OFF. 

CC  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

CMP  But  you  get  the  same  vertical  -  you  get  the  same 

vertical  streaking  that  we  do  on  the  edge  of 
Serenitatis,  off  in  the  Massif  units. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Coming  up  at  Picard  now.     Looking  at  it  -  a 

little  hit  from  a  distance,  there's  a  darker 
albedo  that  goes  about  a  half  a  crater  in  diam- 
eter from  it.     And  then,  on  top  of  that  darker 
albedo  -  It  only  goes  out  maybe  a  fourth  of  a 
crater  diameter  -  there's  a  lighter  type  material 
-  that  seems  to  be  covering  it  up.     The  lighter 
type  material  though  only  goes  in  a  generally 
westerly  -  well,  from  the  south  around  to  the 
west  side  and  then  kind  of  from  the  northeast 
around  to  the  northwest  side,  and  it  leaves  the 
dark  material  draping  down  in  the  side  of  Picard 
on  the  east  side  of  Picard. 

CC  Roger. 


It  looks  like  it's  a  -  fairly  easy  to  -    When  you 
go  aroiind  the  south  to  the  west  side,  it  has  a 
light  material  on  it.    You  can  pretty  well  carry 
a  light  layer  in  the  top  portion  of  the  wall  all 
the  way  around  to  that  -  that  part  where  it  stops 

-  where  the  light  part  stops.     And  then  you  come 
to  a  dark  layer  again  -  and  then  -  as  you  con- 
tinue aro\md  from  the  west  to  go  on  around  to  the 
north  side.     It's  a  little  bit  in  shadow  on  the 
east  side,  so  I  can't  tell  for  sure  whether  that 
light  layer's  in  there  or  not.     But  starting  on 
the  south  side,  hoing  around  to  the  west  again, 
you  can  see  a  layer  of  dark  -  dark  material, 
although  it  -  there  doesn't  seem  to  be  a  change 
in  the  slope  -  in  the  slope  or  the  inner  wall 

of  the  crater. 

Okay. 

And  then  just  below  -  just  below  the  dark  layer, 
again  a  change  in  slope  a  little  bit.  It 
maintains  that  a  slope  throughout  the  -  all  the 
way  down  to  the  crater  floor,  where  you  get  into 
the  slump  blocks.     And  then  in  the  center  of  the 
crater,  it  looks  like  a  maria-type  film  with  - 
Yes,  I'm  about  to  lose  sight  of  it  again,  but 
with  something  comparable  to  a  central  peak  in 
it.     And  I'll  have  to  get  the  rest  of  that  a 
little  bit  later  on. 

Roger. 

You  know  right  west  of  -  I  think  it's  Yerkes 
or  Yerkes  or  whatever  it  is  -  between  there  and 
Proclus ,  there's  a  real  small  crater  I'm  looking 
at  with  the  binocs.    And  the  reason  it  stands 
out  is  because  it's  a  fresh  -  fresh  crater  and 
yet  it ' s  a  dark  -  dark  halo  all  the  way  around  it . 

Roger. 

And  it's  also  dark  down  on  the  inside  of  it.  I 
still  don't  have  a  feeling  for  the  relative  size 
cf  things.     I'll  try  to  get  that  one  in  the  next 

-  next  pass  around  through  here.     But  that's  what 

I  would  call  a  small,  maybe  even  in  the  -  thousand- 
meter  bracket.     Probably  somewhere  in  there. 


1'ape  86b/ 3 


CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  Am  I  suppose  to  charge  tiattery  A  here  somewhere? 

CC  That's  affirm  vhen  j'-ou  get  a  chance.     And  also, 

you  are  due  tc  turn  some  switches  on  panel  230. 

05  11  57  29     CMP  Okay.     Let's  see,  BATTERY  \rENT  VALVE  is  still  on 

VENT,  and  we're  not  tied  together.  BA'I  RSLAY 
BUS  BAT  A  is  OUT.  Okay;  32  volts.  Go  to  EAT 
CHARGER  BAT  A.     About  2-1/2  -  2  -  2-1/1+  anps  . 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  And  31+  volts  on  the  charge. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  This  work  gets  interesting.     After  that,  I  got 

to  go  to  230,  huh? 


CC  Right. 

05  11  58  19    CMP  Okay;  let's  -  You  want  to  get  that  lunar  soimder 

stuff,  now?     Sounder's  STAMDBY;  RECORDER  is  OU. 
RADAR  is  ON.     PllCORDER  is  OFF.     MODE  went  to  VHF. 


CC  Okay;  sounds  good. 

05  11  58  50     CMP  And  all  the  VH  -  all  the  VH  switch  -  VHF/AM 

switches  are  verified,  OFF. 

CC  Ron,  I  got  one  more  update  for  the  Flight  Plan, 

unless  scaaething  interesting  at  the  window. 
There  is  no  -  no  hurry  on  that  update. 

CMP  Okay;  let  me  take  another  look  at  the  landing 

site,  and  then  I'll  get  it.  Okay? 

CC  Okay;  fine. 


05  11  59  57    CMP  Okay,  the  Sun's  getting  a  little  hit  higher  now. 

And  as  I  look  at  the  landing  site  and  the  albeao 
-  differences  in  the  color  in  there  -  the  color 
in  the  Maraldi  Gamma  is  the  same  as  in  the  land- 
ing site  itself.     And,  also,  it  looks  like  the 
type  of  material  that  we  say  is  essentially  cov- 
ering the  whole  area  -  goes  on  out  to  and  includes 
T^he  annulus  of  Serenitatis . 


Roger . 


Let's  see.     Did  I  mention  that  -  that  it  looks 
like  -  the  flow  out  of  Maraldi  has  gone  on  around 
it  and  down  to,  and  almost  encroaches  on  the 
Vitruvius  A.    But,  it's  breached  out  of  the  side 
of  Maraldi.     Gone  around  that  depression  and  up 
to  the  side  of  Vitruvius  A. 

Roger,  Ron, 

You  still  get  that  same  bluish  -  bluish-type 
tint  from  the  area  in  the  landing  site.  At 
station  number  2 ,  on  the  landslide  -  it's  going 
to  be  a  pretty  good  -  pretty  good  little  depres- 
sion there.     The  scarp  itself  -  it  looks  like  they 
had  picked  the  least-slope  portion  to  go  up  it. 
And,  that's  kind  of  between  Lara  -  I  think  Lara's 
the  one,  right  -  the  crater  Just  to  the  west  of 
the  scarp. 

Roger.     I  haven't  been  on  all  your  revs. 

You  ever  had  any  -  anything  you'd  call  a  visual 

on  the  IM? 

No,  I  really  haven't  looked  that  much,  Gordo. 
See,  my  optics  are  always  pointing  up  in  the  air; 
so  I  can't  use  the  sextant.     The  binocs  -  I'm 
having  a  heck  of  a  time  holding  them  still 
enoxigh  to  -  to  concentrate  on  anything  very  small. 

Roger, 

Oh,  when  we're  coming  around  the  dark  annulus , 
follow  it  around,  by  Menelaus  and  Tacquet ,  and 
then  -  it  kind  of  changes  -  seems  to  change  colors 
a  little  bit  when  we  get  up  to  the  Sxilplcius 
Gallus . 

Roger. 

I  guess  the  only  thing  you  can  say  is  that  -  the 
southern  part  there,  in  the  Tacquet  region,  has  a 
more  of  a  bluish  tint.     And,  then  to  me,  this  has 
more  of  a  brownish  tint  to  it  when  you  get  to  the 
Sulpicius  Gallus  region. 


Tape  8eB/5 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  Hey,  wait  a  minute.     I'm  just  now  passing  Menelaus 

now.     So  J  it  changes  color  right  at  the  -  Tacquet 
and  then  -  at  about  Tacq.uet  and  Menelaus . 
Sulpicius  Gallus  is  just  now  coming  up. 

CMP  You  know,  I  think  Sun  angle  has  got  a  heck  of  a 

lot  to  do  with  that,  because  this  whole  thing  - 
in  the  Sulpicius  Gallus  region  looks  kind  of 
brownish  to  me. 

05  12  07  35    CC  Okay. 

CMP  I'll  have  to  check  that  when  the  Sun  gets  a 

little  bit  higher  when  I'm  coming  across  there 
again. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordo.     I  guess  I'd  better  get  some  work 

done  here.  (Laughter) 

CC  Okay.     I  would  like  you  to  go  through  all  those 

switches  as  shown  on  the  Flight  Plan.     And,  when 
you  finish  all  of  those  with  SM/AC  power  OFF,  J 
have  a  couple  more  for  you. 

CMP  Okay.     I  forgot  to  turn  the  lights  on  in  hare. 

I  can't  see  in  the  dark. 

CMP  Okay,  MAPPING  CAMERA  -  Is  that  the  right  time? 

Let's  see  -  No,  wait  just  a  second  on  the 

mapping  camera,  there.     It  takes  good  terminator 
pictures,  too,  doesn't  it? 

CC  Ron,  go  ahead  and  turn  the  mapping  camera  off. 

Just  a  minute  or  2  ago,  it  started  acting  up. 
We'll  turn  it  off  now  and  troubleshoot  it  later. 

05  12  10  38     CMP  Okay.     The  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  OFF  right  now. 

Eight,  30  seconds. 

CMP  Okay,  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  STANDBY.     IMAGE  MOTION  is 

OFF, 


S. 

I- 

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Tape  88b /6 


CMP  Okay,  there  we  go  -  STANDBY.     Now,  IMAGE  MOTION  is 

OFF.    We  got  a  iDarberpole  —  -  a  gray,  okay. 
Now  MAPPING  CAMERA,  to  OFF.     LASER  ALTIMETER  to 
OFF.     Okay,  you  want  the  RECORDER  to  ON,  huh? 
All  right.     IR  is  going  OFF.     PAN  CAMERA,  SELF 
TEST  is  going  OFF. 

05  12  12  ik    CC  Wait  until  sunset  on  the  next  one. 

CMP  And,  the  o  -  oh,  okay.     I  can  really  tell  simset 

beca\ise  the  -  that  EVA  pole  that  sticks  out  here 
by  window  5-  Looks  like  it's  lit  up  now  the  way 
the  Sun's  shining  on  it. 

CC  Roger , 

CMP  Hey,  Gordo.     How  good  is  that  VOX?    Could  you 

hear  me  chewing? 

CC  No,  I  can't  hear  you  chewing.    Hear  you  talking 

fine. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  good,  then. 

CMP  That  has  to  be  s\mset. 

CC  About  the  right  time. 

05  12  l6  29    CMP  Okay,  V  is  OFF.     Now,  I'm  gonna  close  the  IR 

COVER,  barberpole,  gray;  UV  COVER,  barberpole 
and  gray.     Okay,  turn  the  old  SM/AC  POWER,  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    Now  -  now  we  want  LUNAR  -  LUNAR 

SOUNDER  OPERATE  switch  to  OPERATE. 

CMP  Okay.     Go  to  OPERATE  - 

05  12  17  15     CMP  Now. 

CC  What  we're  doing  this  for  is  to  get  a  readout  of 

the  film  quantity. 

CMP  Oh,  I  see. 

CC  Okay,  we  got  her.     You  go  back  to  LUNAR  SOUNDER 

OPERATE  switch  to  STANDBY,  now. 


Tape  88B/T 


Okay,  LUNAR  SOUNDER  is  in  STANDBY. 

Okay,  that  completes  that  test.  I  have  a  couple 
more  additions  to  the  Flight  Plan  for  -  for  136: 
35,  is  the  first  one. 

Okay,  I'm  there. 

Okay,  136:35,  add  VERB  U8  (11102)  ( 01111 ). 

Okay  at  136:  35,  VERB  hd,  (21102)  and  (Ollll). 

Okay,  that  first  one  is  three  ones  -  02, 

Okay,  three  ones  -  02  and  a  zero,  four  ones. 

Right.    What  we're  doing  here  is  making  a 
20-degree  roll  hy  keeping  P20  going,  to  allow  them 
to  cal  the  VHP  -  I  guess  they  had  some  unexpected 
noise  on  the  VHP  sounder  and  they  want  to  -  slip 
this  in  as  another  check  on  it.     So,  the  next 
step  is  136 :kk  and  at  that  time  put  in  VERB  22, 
NOUN  78  (plus  072.21+)  ,  then  VERB  58  ENTER.  Then 
some  words ,  "When  maneuver  complete ,  wait  20 
seconds."     Then,  a  VERB  22,  NOUN  78  (plus 
052.25).     That's  plus  052.25.    And  follow  that 
with  a  VERB  58  ENTER.     And,  then  one  more  line  - 
you  still  with  me? 

Yes,  still  with  you.    Got  it. 

Okay,  at  136:ii7.  write  in  "VERB  1+8"  and  we  go 
hack  to  (11101)  and  zero  and  four  ones. 

Okay.     At  kk^  we  -  VERB  22,  NOUN  78  [sic]  -  that 
changes  to  72.21+  degrees.     And  VERB  58.  Okay, 
then  we  -  we're  going  to  stay  at  that  attitude 
for  20  seconds.     Then  change  it  back  to  plus-X 
forward  SIM  hay  attitude  again.     And  as  soon  as 
we  get  back,  we'll  change  our  DAP  back  to 
two  tenths  of  a  degree  per  second. 

That's  right  and  what  this  will  do  is  stick  the 
VHP  antenna  right  straight  down  at  nadir  for  a 
count . 


Okay. 


Hey,  at  your  convenience,  we  need  AUTO  and  HIGH 
GAIN. 

You  have  AUTO. 

Pretty  convenient  when  you're  laying  in  the 
center  couch.  (Laughter) 

(Humming) 

Ron,  I  got  the  morning  news,  if  you're  interested, 
and  I  can  watch  the  clock  there  for  that  DATA 
SYSTEM  ON  time.     Or  OFF  time,  rather. 

Okay,  sure.    Go  ahead. 

Okay.  -  - 

. . .  setting  up  the  camera. 

Front  pages  around  the  country;  they're  head- 
lining last  night's  EVA,  as  you  might  expect, 
with  photographs  taken  from  TV  monitors  showing 
Ceman  and  Schmitt  doing  their  tasks.     And  by 
the  way,  their  TV  camera  is  spectacularly  clear 
and  sharp.     It's  almost  like  a  regular  studio  TV. 
In  other  news.  South  Vietnam's  President  Thieu 
is  -  - 

Outstanding. 

-  -  is  suggesting  that  all  prisoners  of  war  be 
released  before  Christmas.     He's  also  asked  that 
all  Vietnamese  parties  be  included  in  peace 
negotiations.     South  Vietnam  and  the  Viet  Cong 
are  not  directly  represented  in  the  secret  talks 
now  underway  in  Paris,     Meanwhile,  Henry  Kissin- 
ger met  for  more  than  h  hours,  yesterday,  with 
Hanoi  representative  Lec  Due  Tho.     The  two 
negotiators  are  expected  to  meet  again  this 
afternoon.     The  former  President  Harry  Truman 
is  still  resting  quietly  although  his  condition 
remains  serious ,  according  to  his  doctors . 
American  poet,  Mark  Van  Doren,  died  at  the  age 
of  78.    He  was  a  professor  of  literature  at 
Columbia  and  a  winner  of  the  19^0  Pulitzer  Prize 
for  his  poetry.     President  Nixon  announced. 


Tape  88B/9 


yesterday,  that  he  wants  to  extend  wage  price 
control  "beyond  the  scheduled  April  30  expiration. 
He  also  plans  to  freeze  new  hiring,  promotions, 
and  pay  increases  for  executives  of  the  Federal;. 
Government.     I  guess  that  doesn't  include  us. 
The  Republican  National  Committee  has  a  -  - 

05  12  26  59     CMP  (Laughter)     I  don't  think  it  does  either. 

CC  -  -  a  new  chairman  -  George  B\ish  of  Houston,  who 

is  now  ambassador  to  the  United  Nations.    He  will 
continue  his  UN  post  through  the  present  session 
of  the  General  Assembly.     Both  national  political 
parties  are  now  headed  by  Texaxts .    I  simply 
mention  to  you,  Robert  Strauss  of  Dallas  became 
chairman  of  the  Democratic  National  Committee 
last  Saturday.     And,  when  you  see  Jack  again, 
you  can  tell  him  he  has  been  replaced  by  the 
Nimbus  5  weather  satellite  which  is  operating 
in  orbit  after  being  launched  from  Vandenburg 
very  early  Monday  morning. 

05  12  27  i+1    CMP  (Laughter)  Outstanding. 

CC  Joe  Kamath  -  I  think  you  might  have  heard  the 

football  score  last  night  -  the  Oakland  Raiders 
got  to  Namath  and  the  Jets  in  a  -  in  the  foiarth- 
quarter  and  beat  them  2k  to  l6.     Namath  passed 
for  more  than  kOO  yards ,  but  only  scored  one 
touchdown.     And  Hoiiston  weather,  we've  had  two 
kinds  of  weather  since  you've  left:     it's  been 
either  cold  and  rainy,  or  chilly  and  rainy.  And, 
it's  foggy  and  drizzly  here  again  today  and  tem- 
peratures are  expected  to  rise  to  the  mid  UO ' s 
and  go  down  to  a  low  of  32  tonight.     There  you 
have  it . 

CMP  Gee,  whiz.     I  thank  you. 

CC  Any  time.     You  need  to  get  to  the  DATA  SYSTEM 

switch.     And  turn  on  the  sounder  at  -  in  about 
a  minute. 


CMP 


Okay. 


Tape  88B/10 

05  12  29  ^8    CMP  Okay.     DATA  SYSTEM  is  OFF,  58,  59  -  oops. 

05  12  30  03    CMP  MARK  it.     Okay,  went  to  OPERATE. 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  All  talkbacks  are  still  gray. 

CC  Roger. 

05  12  lt8  l6    CC  America,  Houston.     About  3  minutes  to  LOS. 

Spacecraft  looks  good  and  the  sotmder's  filling 
the  Moon  with  RF  energy,  just  the  way  it's 
supposed  to.  Over. 

CMP  Hey,  outstanding.    Trying  to  consolidate  all  of 

my  trash.  Man,  I  didn't  realize  you  had  so  much 
Junk. 

CC  Roger. 


END  OF  TAPE 


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Tape  89B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 
05  13  08  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  25 

05  13  37  22    CC  Hello,  America.     Houston.  Over. 

05  13  37  28    CMP  Hello,  Houston.    This  is  America;  loud  and  clear. 

CC  You,  too. 

05  13  h6  50    CMP  Houston,  America.    Magazine  Lima  Lima  will  be 

starting  with  frame  'yk. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that,  Ron.     The  sounder  still  looks 

good,  perking  right  away.     And  the  mapping  camera 
fimny  I  mentioned  earlier  -  we  haven't  nailed  down 
exactly  what  it  is.    Most  likely,  we  think  it's 
just  an  instrumentation  erroneous  indication. 
And  so,  we're  going  to  continue  with  the  normal 
schediQe  of  activities  on  the  mapping  camera, 
except,  of  coTorse,  for  the  deploy  and  retraction. 


CMP 


Uh-huh.  Okay.  ¥ell,  hey,  that  -  let's  hope  that's 
what  it  is  then. 


CC  Roger. 

05  13  U9  22    CMP  I'd  like  to  change  that  instruct  to  frame  55 

instead  of  5ii-.  I  just  took  a  picture  of  the  crater 
on  the  -  well,  I  guess  southwest  of  Crisi\m. 

CC  Okay,  Ron   

CMP    ...  different.     It's  got  a  light-color  - 

light-colored  dike  or  something  through  the 
central  peak  in  the  hottom  of  the  small  crater. 
The  crater's  about  -  oh,  30  to  50  kilometers,  I 
guess,  in  diameter. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  The  small  crater  west  of  Condorcet. 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  89B/2 


CMP  You  know,  the  Crater  Peirce  has  got  that  same  dark 

halo  aroimd  its  crater,  and  it  extends  out  -  again, 
you  can  see  it  real  well  out  to  about  a  half  a  cra- 
ter diameter.    You  don't  see  any  of  the  light- 
colored  ejects  on  top  of  it  though,  like  you  do  on 
Picard, 

CC  Okay. 

05  Ih  00  30    CMP  Boy,  that  Scarp  sure  looks  like  a  flow  down  there 

to  me. 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Roger.     On  the  landing  site  Scarp? 


CMP  Yes.     I  don't  know  how  you  get  it  to  go  up  the 

North  Massif,  hut  it  sure  looks  like  it  runs  that 
way  -  Just  from  the  shadows  and  everything. 

05  Ik  02  45    CMP  Gordo,  does  this  go  all  the  way  out  to  Bessel? 

Does  it  cross  the  annulus  ridge  there? 


It  doesn't  go  all  the  way  to  Bessel.     It  stops 
short  of  Bessel.     About  halfway  across  Serenity 
from  the  Taurus-Littrow  to  Bessel. 


Oh,  okay.    Forgot  to  look  where  it  stopped. 

05  1^+  Oi+  13    CMP  Okay.     I  ended  up  on  frame  92. 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that.     Frame  92. 

05  Ik  Ok  21    CC  Okay.     Ron,  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO  when  you  get  a  chance, 

05  Ik  06  22    CMP  Okay.    There's  our  20  seconds  or  so. 

05  Ik  18  15    CC  Ron,  Houston  here.    We're  coming  up  on  some  TEI-38 

pad,  and  some  flight  -  and  a  solar  corona  pad,  and 
some  Flight  Plan  update  any  time  you're  ready? 

CMP  Okay.    Let's  see.     I  think  I've  got  the  -  ... 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see.     I'll  get  my  TEI  book  here.  Okay. 

All  set  for  TEI-38. 


0k£^,  Ron.    TEI-38,  SPS/G&N;  37580;  plus  0.55, 
plus  0.9Ti  l63:21:5U.0l+;  NOUN  8ls  are  plus  2668.0, 


Tape  89B/3 


minus  1238.0,  minus  OUll+.l;  roll,  I8I;  pitch,  11 J+; 
yaw,  338;  rest  of  the  pad  is  not  applicable.  Good 
ole  Sirius  and  Rigel  for  our  set  stars;  133,  200, 
030.    Ullage,  four  Jets,  12  seconds  -  that's 
12  seconds.     Ten,  the  longitude  of  the  Moon  at  the 
Tj_g  time  is  minus  153.71.  Over. 

Okay.    TEI-38  is  SPS/GM;  37580;  plus  0.55, 
plus  0,97;  T      is  163:21:5^.0^;  NOUH  Bis, 

plus  2668.0,  minus  1238.0,  minxis  OiHU.l;  roll, 
181 ;  pitch,  Ilk,  338;  Sirius  and  Rigel;  133, 
200,  030;  four  jet,  12  seconds;  longitude  at 
T      is  a  minus  153.71. 

Good  readback,  Ron. 

Okay .     All  the  rest  of  our  readup  here  is  in  the 
Flight  Plan. 

Okay.     Just  a  second. 

Okay .     Go . 

Okay.    At  137:33,  the  solar  corona  photo  pad  is 
T-start:     137:33:U8.  Over. 

Okay.     Solar  corona  pad,  137:33:U8. 

Roger.     The  next  one's  over  at  139:20. 

Okay .     Go . 

Okay.     The  old  one,  delete  "MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER 
ALTIMETER  COVER,  OPEN."    And  at  139:21,  delete 
"MAPPING  CAMERA,  EXTEKD,"  since  they're  already 
there. 

Okay.    Got  them. 

Okay, ^ Ron.     At  139:21,  vhere  it  says,  "UV  COVER, 
OPEN,"  move  that  down  to  139:23.     Make  the  fol- 
lowing note.     "Delay  opening  2  minutes  to  check 
operating  current  with  cover  closed."    We'll  "be 
checking  that  and  giving  you  a  cue  on  that. 


Oh ,  okay . 


Tape  B9B/k 


CC 


CMP 


And  there's  nothing  -  no  problems  expected  there, 
Ron,  We're  just  getting  some  extra  data  that  OSO 
wants . 


CMP  Okay.     Good  deal. 

05  Ih  23  35    CC  Okay.    The  next  one  is  at  11*1:50. 

CMP  lUl  - 

CC  li+l:50. 
CMP  11+1:50;  okay. 

CC  Okay.     We  got   

CMP  Okay,  I  got  it. 

CC  We've  got  a  little  -  seeing  some  funnies  on  the  V/H 

OVERRIDE,  so  after  FAM  CAMERA,  STANDBY,  STEREO, 
and  POWER,  we  want  to  add  the  following:  V/H 
OVERRIDE,  HIGH  ALTITUDE  -  HIGH  ALT. 

CMP  Okay,  V/H  OVERRIDE  to  HIGH  ALTITUDE. 

CC  Okay,  make  -  - 

CMP  After  you  get  the  PAIT  CAMERA  POWER,  ON, 

CC  Pardon  me,  Ron.     I  missed  that. 


That's  right.  That's  -  after  you  get  the  PAN 
CAMMA  POWER,  ON,  V/H  to  HIGH  ALTITUDE. 


05  11^  2k  kO    CC  Roger.    Okay,  Ron,  the  next  two  are  just  a  coT:?,le 

of  info  notes  for  you.     I  don't  know  where  you 
want  to  write  this  one,  but  FAO  would  like  to 
remind  you  that  you  don't  have  any  margin  on  mag 
Lima  Lima  anymore;  you  \ised  up  all  your  margin  on 
that  mag.     Everything  else  is  needed  for  planned 
operation. 

CMP  Uh-huh!  Okay. 

05  11+  25  10    CC  And,  the  last  one  Just  -  - 


Tape  89B/5 


CMP  Discontinue  spares  on  Lima  Lima. 

CC  Roger.     Just  use  Lima  Lima  as  scheduled,  but  don't  - 

don't  use  any  spare  shots  on  it.    And  the  last 
one  is  just  a  sum  up  here,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


CC 

CMP 
CC 


You  ohviously  are  aware  of  it,  but  you  have  not 
missed  any  mapping  camera,  pan-  camera,  or  lunar 
sounder  operations  to  date.     And  we're  all  on 
schedule  and  right  on  the  Flight  Plan  -  outstanding 
Flight  Plan. 

Yes.     You  bet  It's  an  outstanding  Flight  Plan. 
That's  great! 

Yes,  Ron.     I  think  you  had  a  really  outstanding 
Flight  Plan  to  be  flying  at  this  time  of  the  year, 
because  the  weather  in  Houston  is  so  miserable 
that  you  can't  believe  it. 

(Laughter)    Oh,  boy.     That's  what  eveiybody  keeps 
saying. 


05  Ih  25  57    CC  Roger.     I  just  drove  in,  and  it's  kind  of  a  sleety 

rain.     It  feels  like  it  might  snow  at  any  moment, 
although  it's  really  not  that  cold.     The  ceiling  is 
probably  down  about  6  -  700  feet.     It  is  really- 
rotten  out  there. 


(Laughter)  Yes,  we  did  -  we  did  pick  a  good  time 
to  make  the  flight  then. 


CC  That's  affirmative.     It's  been  this  way  since  you 

left.  ^ 

CMP  (Laughter) 


You  guys  -  you  realize,  of  course,  that  you're 
going  to  get   

Well,  we  want  everybody  to  get  ...   

  blamed  for  that,  because  with  two  people  on  the 

Moon,  that's  what  happens. 


Tape  89B/6 


CMP  (Laughter)    Yes,  right. 

CC  Okay.    You  can  get  back  to  work  then,  if  you  want. 

CMP  Okay. 

05  1^  26  5^    CMP  See  if  I  can  get  my  solar  -  solar  corona  squared 

away  here. 

CC  Okay. 

05  1^  27  35    CMP  Okay.     Solar  corona  is  mag  QQ,  and  we're  on  frame  69. 

CC  Okay.    Mag  QQ,  69. 

05  Ih  31  56    CMP  And,  Houston;  America.     Let's  see.     You're  going 

to  send  me  over  the  hill  in  high  tit  rate  this 
time  for  sure,  are  you?    As  usual  (chuckle). 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.    Let  me  check  in  the  go  on 

that . 

CMP  Looks  like  it. 


CC 


CC 
CMP 


That's  affirmative,  Ron.  You'll  be  going  over 
the  hill  in  high  bit  rate. 


05  Ih  36  Ih    CMP  And,  Houston;  America.     Just  so  I  won't  get  con- 

fused there,  I  put  two  protect  frames  at  the  start 
of  this. 


Roger.     That's  affirm.    We  got  that. 

I  just  wanted  to  try  out  that  -  mode  contrable  [sic]  - 
control  cable  with  the  PCM  stuff,  you  know? 


CC  Roger.  Understand. 

05  ii+  1+1+  k2    CC  Ron,  we're  coming  up  on  5  minutes  to  LOS  and  just 

want  to  update  you.    We  went  around  the  room,  and 
the  spacecraft  is  looking  great.    We  just  have  one 
reminder  and  that's  at  the  end  of  the  solar  corona 
period.     Please  use  only  one  protect  frame  -  one 
protect  frame  per  the  Flight  Plan  or  per  the  check- 
list.    And  the  other  thing  is  -  the  lunar  sounder  - 
the  little  check  you  did  at  the  beginning  of  this 
pass  -  the  recorder  is  pulling  film  as  normal. 


Tape  89B/T 


The  glitch  we  sav  was  a  telemetry  grit  -  glitch 
and  the  lunar  sounder  is  looking  great. 

05  Ih  1+5  19    CMP  Hey,  outstanding!    That's  good  to  hear.  Soimds 

like  we're  getting  kind  of  low  on  VHBW  film  though 
is  what  you're  saying,  huh? 

CC  On  that  particular  magazine;  yes,  Ron.     That's  the 

problem,  I  think.     Looking  at  the  total  thing  is 
more  -  is  which  magazine  has  got  what  on  it. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

05  Ih  k5  52    CC  And  we'll  see  you  at  01:38:15  when  you'll  be  just 

about  eating.     So  give  us  a  call  if  you  want  any- 
thing.    We'll  be  listening. 

CMP  Okay.    I'll  be  on  the  loop.    Oh  -  Hey,  one  thing. 

Can  you  check  on  mag  -  what  do  I  have  on  the  Nikon 
now,  XX,  I  guess?    It  seems  to  me  like  -  we  just 
need  that  for  another  zodiacal  light  thing. 

CC  Okay.    We  got  FAO  working  on  that. 

CMP  ...  know  is,  in  other  words,  are  there  two  or  three 

frames  available?    Do  we  have  two  or  three  frames 
available  on  that  one? 

CC  Okay.     Let  me  check  on  it,  Ron? 

CMP  Okay. 

05  1^  ^6  kh    CMP  I  want  to  take  a  red  and  a  blue  pictiire  of  the 

landing  site  sometime. 

CC  It's  going  to  take  a  little  bit  of  chasing  on 

that,  Ron.  We  may  not  have  the  word  before  you  go 
LOS,  but  we'll  have  it  definitely  when  you  come  up 
AOS. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    Yes,  don't  -  No  -  no  problem.     I  won't 

use  it  until  we  get  to  the  landing  site  anyhow. 

05  1^  ^1  2h    CC  Okay,  Ron.     There  are  I8  spares  on  X-ray  X-ray 

that  you  could  use. 

05  1^  ^7  31    CMP  Oh,  okay.  Good. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  90A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROOTD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

05  Ik  15  05    CC  (Music:     Rite  of  the  Vallyrie  by  Wagner) 

05  1^  16  39    CO  Good  morning,  Challenger. 

LMP-LM      Sounded  like  Parker  has  the  duty.     Both  monumental 
and  epic . 


CC 


Jack,  that's  supposed  to  take  you  back  to  Cal  Tech 
final's  week. 


LMP-LM  (Humming) 

LMP-LM      Hov's  everything  look,  Gordy? 

CC  Couldn't  look  better.     How's  it  look  to  you? 

LMP-LM      Well,  it's  nice  to  have  rested  some. 

CC  Roger.     I'm  sure  of  that. 

LMP-LM      How  do  our  consumables  look  today? 

CC  They  look  good,  as  expected.     Right  on. 

LMP-LM      Be  through  in  a  jiffy, 

LMP-m      Stow  your  sleep  restraint  up  there.     I  mean,  your  - 
hammock.     Either  way.     I'll  -  I'n  just  stuff  my  - 
I'll  stuff  all  mine  in  this  compartment  here,  if 
you'll  just  get  yours  in  there.     Otherwise,  we 
can  rearrange  it.     See  how  it  looks  first. 

LMP-m      Gordy,  you  guys  held  comm  pretty  well  last  night, 
I  only  remember  one  -  one  break. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

CC  Take  you  off  biomed  for  a  minute. 

05  Ik  2h  28    LMP-LM      We  have  , , . 

LMP-LM     Well,  how  about  it,  Gordy?    Are  we  STAY  or  NO 
STAY  for  EVA-2  prep? 


Tape  90A/2 


CC  It's  STAY.     Never  any  doubt. 

LMP-LM      Thank  you,  sir. 
CC  Have  any  medication? 

CDR-LM      My  report  to  . . . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     Status  report  is  excellent.  No 
medication  for  either  one  of  us.     CDR  slept 
6  hours  pretty  good;  I  slept  6  hours  intermittent, 
hut  generally  good. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP-LM      And  we've  eaten  well,  I  think.    The  food's  a  little 
bit  confused  since  we  had  oux  little  -  minor  ex- 
plosion in  the  cabin,  but  -  I  think  you  can  Just 
say  it's  good.     We've  had  a  lot  to  drink,  a  lot  of 
juices.    We  ate  the  frankfurters.    We're  sharing 
a  lot  of  the  stuff  because  it's  not  symmetrically 
packed.     If  you  want  more  details,  it  will  take 
time. 

LMP-LM      Huh?  No. 

nvlP-LM      And,  Gordy,  we  did  not  eat  the  corn  chowder. 

CC  Okay.     Roger.    You  did  not  eat  the  corn  chowder, 

but  most  everything  else  on  the  menu.     Is  that 
right? 

LMP-LM      Yes,  we  got  just  about  everything  else.    We  got 

into  -  maybe  mixed  up  two  meals,  but  essentially  - 
meal  B  and  C  for  yesterday  were  eaten,  except  for 
the  corn  chowder. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  copy.     We're  wondering  if  you 

could  come  up  with  a  quantitative  estimate  on  the 
water  you've  each  drunk  -  drunk  and  also  your  PRD 
readings . 


LMP-M 


Stand  by,  Gordy.     That  may  be  difficult.  Yes, 
we'll  get  the  PRD  a  little  bit  later  when  we  start 
suiting  up. 


Tape  90A/3 


CC  Yes;  okay.     That'll  be  fine.     My  mistake. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  Gordy,  on  this  water.     We  saturated  ourselves 
before  we  went  out.     I  finished  my  drink  bag  out 
in  the  suit  on  the  siorface.     Jack  finished  about 
better  than  three-quarters  of  his.    We've  had 
water  and  tea  and  then  the  juice,  and  we  have  been 
drinking  water  constantly  -  post-EVA.     And  to  give 
you  a  quantity  is  almost  impossible. 

CC  Okay;  that's  fine. 


CDR-LK      If  the  water  is  down,  it's  probably  because  we've 
been  drinking  it.    And  I'm  ready  for  your  lift-off 
pad  data. 

05  Ih  29  30    CC  Okay.     For  rev  26,  lift-off  time  is  138:U0:15; 

27  is  lU0:38:lt9;  1^2:37:22;  lUU:35:55;  11*6:3^:29; 
lU8:33:03.     And  the  last  one,  rev  32,  is  150:31:37. 
Go  ahead. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  rev  26.     Is  that  the  first  one,  Gordy? 
CC  That's  affirm. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Rev  26  is  138:U0:15;  ll+O  :  38  :  il9  ;  lii2:37:22; 

ll*i^:35:55;  lU6:3il:29;  lit8:33:03;  150:31:37.  And 
what's  our  present  rev? 


CC 


Okay;  I'll  have  to  check  that  myself.    We're  on 
rev  25.     He's  about  three-quarters  of  the  way 
across  the  front  side.     Coming  up  back  side 
will  start  26. 


CDR-LM      Okeydoke . 

CC  And,  for  your  information,  he's  running  the  VHF 

SOUNDER,  and  it's  working  fine. 

CDR-LM      That's  good  to  hear.     By  the  way,  good  morning, 
Gordy. 

CC  Good  morning,  commander. 


CDR-Ijy[ 


How  does  America  itself  look? 


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CC 

CDR-UA 
CC 

05  Ih  33  15  CO 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  1*+  35  33  LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

cm-m 


Just  as  good  as  ever.     I  added  on  the  consumables. 
No  problem  on  the  spacecraft  systems.     Only  minor 
funnies  in  the  SIM  bay,  but  even  it  is  almost 
100  percent. 

Okay.     And  I  guess  from  -  I  didn't  heeur  your 
comment,  but  I  guess  Challenger  is  the  same  way. 

That's  affirm.     That's  the  way  it  looks  here, 
anyway . 

Challenger,  Houston.    We've  been  working  while 
you've  been  sleeping  on  a  fix  for  the  missing 
fender.     John  Young  has  been  over  working  it  out 
in  the  suit  with  the  mockup  Rover,  and  we  have 
about  probably  5  to  10  minutes  worth  of  words. 
And  how  do  you  want  to  go  about  that?  Whenever 
you  have  that  much  time  to  listen  -  It'll  be  mostly 
listening  on  your  part  -  let  us  know. 

Okay,  Gordy.     Will  do. 

No.    Well,  I  did  but  I  covered  it. 


Gordy,  you've  implied  that  we  may  be  a  little 
behind  on  water.     Is  that  correct? 

No.  That's  -  that's  not  the  problem,  Jack.  I 
think  our  concern  was  more  that  you  -  that  you 
were  taking  enough  -  enough  onboard  internally. 

Our  water , 

That's  right.     That  you  were  drinking  enough. 
That ' s  what  we  were  worried  about . 

Okay;  we'll  keep  pushing  it. 

Huh? 

Oh ,  a  ... 

And  cold  scrambled  eggs. 

Gordy,  we're  going  to  start  to  eat  here.  Why 
don't  you  talk  to  us  about  that  fender? 


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CC  Okay;  let  me  round  up  -  John  Young.    He  stepped 

out  -  for  a  second.     We'll  have  him  here  in  a 
minute.    Might  as  well  let  the  resident  expert  on 
fenders  talk. 


CC 


MCC 


Okay;  I'll  now  turn  the  microphone  over  to 
Captain  Young. 

Hey,  Geno.     This  is  John.    We  spent   


CDR-LM      Hello,  John.     How  you  doing? 

05  lU  1+0  11    MCC  Oh,  just  fine.     You  guys  are  doing  a  superb  Job; 

really  beautiful.     Hey,  we  spent  some  time  on 
this  -  fender  problem  and  worked  out  a  pretty 
simple-minded  procedure,  which  involves  essentially 
taking  four  of  those  chronopaque  pages  out  of  your 
lunar  surface  map,  ones  which  are  not  going  to 
be  used  for  discussing  the  site,  taping  them  to- 
gether with  gray  -  gray  tape  so  that  you  end  up 
with  a  piece  of  paper  about  15  inches  by 
10-1/2  inches,  and  then  using  the  AOT  lamp  clamp, 
preposition  them  full  opened,  and  taking  them  out, 
and  taking  that  piece  of  paper  out ,  laying  it  on 
top  of  the  fender  guide  rails  and  -  and  clamping 
the  edges  of  it  with  the  AOT  lamp  clamps.  It's 
simple  and  straightforward,  and  the  beauty  of  it 
is  you're  only  spending  about  2  minutes  in  the 
clamping  operation,  and  it  could  save  you  up  to 
about  12  dusting,  I  think  maybe.    What  do  you 
think? 

CDR-LM      Yes,  John.     I  -  I  -  I  think  we  ought  to  try  some- 
thing because  you  told  me,  but  I  -  I  guess  you 
can't  appreciate  it  until  you  see  it  happen  your- 
self.    That  -  that  dust  without  that  -  that  fender 
is  just  almost  unacceptable.     It  -  this  soiands 
pretty  good.     How  do  you  want  those  things  taped 
together? 


MCC 


You  just  take  four  pages  and  allow  -  Well,  I've 
got  the  detailed  procedures  here,  if  you're  ready 


to  copy.  Over. 


Tape  90A/6 


CDR-Ii«l      Well,  no.     I'm  not  ready  to  copy  yet,  but  what  do 

you  do?  Tape  the  four  squares  into  a  bigger  sq_uare 
about  16  by  20. 

MCC  Yes.     Allow  about  an  inch  of  overlap,  and  tape 

both  sides  of  them. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

MCC  And  then  you  get  the  AOT  clamps  off  the  utility 

lights  and  open  the  clamp  Jaws  to  max.     And  you 
stow  the  clamps ,  and  you  roll  up  the  paper  -  roll 
up  the  -  roll  up  your  fender  shortwise  and  put  a 
gray  tab  over  that  and  stow  it  in  the  ETB.  You 
got  both  the  clamps  and  the  paper  fender  in  the 
ETB.    And  then  when  you  get  out  to  the  Rover,  you 
lay  the  edge  of  your  fender  over  the  inboard  guide 
rail  and  clamp  it ,  and  then  you  lay  the  other  edge 
of  the  sheet  over  the  outboard  rail  and  clamp  it . 
And  the  only  thing  you're  -  really  have  to  worry 
about  Is  making  sure  that  the  inboard  clamp  is 
right  over  the  shock  strut  so  that  you  don't  get 
any  interference  with  the  LRV  structure  when  you 
turn  the  wheel. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  that's  the  type  of  thing  I  was  going  to  ask 

about,  some  of  those  subtle  points.     There  -  there 
really  should  be  quite  avrays  -  Well,  I'll  look  at 
it  -  but  almost  vertical  over  the  hub.  Right? 

MCC  Yes,  on  the  inboard  one.     On  the  inboard  one.  On 

the  outboard  one,  if  you  put  it  a  little  further 
back  aft  on  the  wheel,  it  -  it  allows  you  to  -  it 
allows  you  to  give  your  paper  fender  a  little  more 
rigidity. 

05  Ih  kk  10     CDR-LM      And  you  Just  say  lay  them  over  the  guide  rails, 

so  the  clamps  -  put  the  clamps  -  so  the  clamps  are 
also  over  the  guide  rails.     They're  not  trying  - 
align  that  -  the  makeshift  fender  in  the  guide 
rails  itself,  huh? 

MCC  No,  it  -  Just  clamp  the  thing  right  to  the  rails. 

Just  allow  a  little  overlap,  and  clamp  that  rascal 
right  down.     And  I  know  you  can  tighten  those  clamps 
down  so  good  it'll  never  get  loose.     I  know  -  I 
know  you  can  do  it  if  I  can  do  it. 


Tape  90A/7 


CDR-LM      Okay,  John.     I  think  I  knov  vhat  you're  talking 
about,  and  I'd  sure  like  to  give  it  a  stah.  The 
only  hooker  is  I  hope  that  tape  holds  the  fenders 
together  well  enough  -  - 

MCC  Yes,  they  -  - 


CDR-LM 


  the  pieces  together  veil  enough. 


MCC  Roger.     One  of  the  things  -  when  you're  taping 

the  -  the  pages  together  that  you  want  to  he  care- 
ful of  is  that  you  -  is  that  you  make  sure  and 
get  the  air  bubbles  out  so  when  you  get  in  a  vac- 
uum, It  doesn't  open  up  by  itself.     And  maybe  you 
can  put  an  X  across  there  to  -  to  make  sure  that 
you  -  If  you  get  any  separation  -  that's  it's 
still  held  together  pretty  good.     We  think  the 
tape  will  work  -  - 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

MCC  -  -  think  the  tape  will  work  because  back  about 

in  13,  we  were  using  it  Just  sort  of  incidentally 
m  the  thermal  vacuum  chamber,  and  it  worked  okay 
there  for  some  reason. 

It  would  seem  to  stick  on  the  surface  okay  if  I 
could  find  a  dust-free  spot  when  I  put  that  other 
fender  on  earlier. 

Yes,  I  agreed. 

As  far  as  -  as  far  as  how  much  of  the  new  fender 
to  overlap  on  the  present  fender,  just  make  it 
about  symmetrical  with  the  other  side,  and  that 
probably  ought  to  give  me  plenty  of  overlap,  huh? 

MCC  Well,  if  you  -  are  you  talking  about  over  the 

dovetail  part  of  it ,  or  are  you  talking  about  off 
the  aft  end  of  the  -  of  the  vehicle? 

I'm  talking  about  -  about  the  present  fender  that's 
on  there,  the  aft  end  of  that  fender.     About  how 
much  overlap  do  you  want  with  this  makeshift 
fender?    Just  give  me  an  idea.     I  think  I  could 
figure  out  when  I  get  there,  but  I'd  rather  have 
your  feelings  before  I  do. 


CDR-LM 
MCC 

CDR-U4 


CDR-LM 


Tape  90A/8 


MCC  We  think  if  you  get  it  out  about  h  inches  past 

that  fender  -  You  understand  what  this  looks  like 
when  you  get  it  put  on  the  fender.     It  just  looks 
like  sort  of  a  roll,  and  you  end  up  with  a  sort 
of  a  straight  fender  right  at  the  back  end  of  the 
of  the  -  of  the  Rover  -  a  sort  of  a  straight  - 
about  half  a  pipe  straight  out  there.     And,  if 
you  get  it  out  U  or  5  inches,  that  will  keep  the 
dust  from  coming  back  over  the  vehicle. 

CDR-m      Yes,  that  would  be  about  where  I  want  it.  That 
would  be  about  U  or  5  inches. 

MCC  Yes,  it's  just  sort  of  like  a  -  a  horizontal 

fender,  like  on  a  -  a  old  automobile. 

LMP-LM      I  thought  I  understood  what  he  was  talking  about. 

MCC  Say  again,  Geno. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  John.     This  is  Jack.     Did  you  say  pipe  there 
a  minute  ago?  P-i-p-e? 

05  ih  U7  56    MCC  Yes,  but  it  doesn't  roll  up  into  a  circle;  it's 

sort  of  a  -  a  hemisphere.     I  mean  it's  half  of 
one . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  90B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUliFD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

05  15  07  XX  BEGIN  LUKAE  REV  26 

05  15  36  33    CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Hello,  America.     Hovr  are  you  doing? 

CMP  Well,  I  think  I've  got  it  "back  under  control  again. 

CC  What  happened  -  any  problems? 

CMP  Let's  see.     Let  me  go  back  to  my  -  Well,  I  almost 

got  into  gimbal  lock  (laughter). 

CC  Okay.     You  almost  got  into  gimbal  lock.  Go 

ahead  -  - 

CMP  Just  at  the  last  step  of  the  -  last  step  of  the 

solar  corona  thing  which  says  go  back  to  CMC 
AUTO  -  which  wouldn't  have  been  too  bad,  except 
as  soon  as  you  get  a  waste  water  dump,  it  really 
torques  it  around,  I  guess.     And,  somewhere  -  you 
ought  to  be  able  to  check  it  back  on  the  tape  - 
at  about  137:50  -  between  50  and  probably  -  no, 
between  55  and  58,  somewhere  in  there,  I  got  the 
GIMBAL  LOCK  light  and  all  those  good  deal  things; 
and  got  her  under  control.     Took  her  back.  And 
we  got  back  to  SIM  bay  attitude  at  137:59:20.  In 
the  meantime,  while  I  was  doing  all  that,  looked 
like  my  waste  water  dropped  do^m  kind  of  low,  too. 
How  much  are  you  reading  down  there? 

05  15  38  25    CC  Okay.     Stand  by  on  that,  Ron. 

CC  We're  reading  0.l6  percent  and  0.9  pound  -  1.6  per- 

cent and  0.9  pounds,  Ron. 

CMP  I  didn't  q^uite  make  it  to  zero,  did  I? 

CC  Ron,  that's  affirm. 

CMP  Okay.     Caught  that  in  time,  anyway. 


Tape  90B/2 


CC  Hey,  Ron,  just  a  question,  here.     Pick  up  where 

you  were  briefing  us  there.     Did  you  go  to  CMC 
AUTO  after  the  solar  corona,  or  did  you  get  the 
GIMBAL  LOCK  light  prior  to  going  to  AUTO. 

05  15  ^0  Ok    CMP  (Laughter)    I  got  it  prior  to  going  to  AUTO.  I 

forgot  to  go  to  AUTO  after  the  solar  corona  thing. 

CC  Okay.     We've  got  you. 


CMP 
CMP 

CC 


The  full  cell  purge  and  the  waste  water  dump.  Yes. 

I  saw  it  before  it  tumbled  the  platform,  though. 

Roger.  We've  got  you,  and  the  platform  looks  good 
then,  too? 


CMP  Oh,  yes.     The  platform's  okay. 

CMP  And  if  Enco's  [?]  timing  his  bit  rate  forces 

there,  high  bit  rate  was  -  I  mean  going  to  low 
bit  rate  is  about  137:^+2  -  was  pretty  -  - 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that. 

CMP  ...  this  thing.     Okay.     And  then  going  to  high 

bit  rate,  I've  got  the  high  bit  at  137:50:30. 
And  I  hit  LOW  BIT  RATE  again  at  138:08;  went  to 
HIGH  BIT  RATE  at  138:ll+. 

05  15  h2  05     CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy  those  times. 

CC  Sounds  like  you  might  have  got  your  heartbeat 

going  good  for  your  eat  period.  Is  that  right, 
Ron? 

05  15  i+3  17    CMP  (Laughter)     Yes,  might  have.     I'm  goinp;  to  have 

some  peanut  butter  now,  if  you  guys  don't  care. 

CC  Roger.     It's  your  eat  period. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  At  least  he  didn't  forget  this  one.     Ron,  we've 

got  some  data  here  for  you. 


Tape  90B/3 


Yes,  that's  right,  by  gosh.     I've  even  got  one 
scheduled.     Go  ahead. 

We've  got  some  data  here  for  you,  for  -  if  you're 
planning  on  taking  those  red  and  blue  filtered 
exposures  across  the  landing  site  -  if  you  want 
this  information. 

Oh,  yes.     Okay;  go  ahead. 

Okay,  Ron.     Here  is  -  here  it  is.     It's  a 
Nikan  [sic]  -  NK  -  November  Kilo  55;  VH  -  VW; 
mag  X-ray  X-ray.    Okay.    With  the  red-blue  filtered 
exposure  you  want  it  at  F/11,  1/125,  one  frame 
each  filter;  F/11,  1/250;  one  frame  each  filter. 
With  no  filter,  expose  at  F/11,  1/1000.     And  if 
you  want  to  use  the  polarizing  filter,  expose  at 
F/11,  1/500  of  a  second. 

Okay.     Looks  like  we'll  bracket  it,  there:  F/11, 
1/125,  one  frame  on  each  filter;  and  F/11  at  1/250, 
one  frame  on  each  filter;  and  without  a  filter,  one 
F/11  at  1/1000;  and  polarizing  F/11  at  1/500. 

Okay.    Here's  a  note  that  I'm  not  sure  I  understand 
totally,  but  let  me  read  it  to  you.     "Observe  tar- 
gets through  viewfinder  and  shoot  as  desired  with 
polarizing  filter  in  different  positions.  Mark 
exposure  time  with  polarizing  filter  as  data 
analysis  req^uires  the  incidence  angle." 

Okay.     So  we  need  the  GET  time  when  we  take  the 
picture . 

That's  -  that's  affirm  -  with  the  polarizer. 

...  Yes.     Yes,  with  the  polarizer.  Right. 

And  there's  another  note  here.     Do  not  exceed 

l8  frajnes  total  for  the  above  pictures.     l8  frames 

total. 

Okay. 

And  your  TCA  -  TCA  is  -  for  the  landing  site  -  is 
138:39:11. 


Tape  90B/U 


CMP 

CC 


CC 


Okay.     TCA  is  138:39:11. 

And,  Ron,  if  you'll  Just  give  us  a  MAiyC  vhen  you 
make  the  shot.     That'll  be  close  enough  and  we'll 
we  11  mark  the  time  here  on  those  polarizing  ones 
So  we'll  get  the  angle  that  way. 


05  15  UT  22     CMP  Oh,  okay. 

05  15  h9  37    CMP  Lost  the  freaking  camera. 


Ron,  we'd  like  ACCEPT  on  the  computer.     We  have  a 
new  state  vector  for  you.     Your  downtrack  there 
got  to  he  in  excess  of  30,000  feet,  and  this  has 
nothing  to  do  with  your  backside  water  dump  just 
now  -  it's  Just  accumulation  of  errors  in  the 
path. 

05  15  51  53    CMP  Oh,  okay.    You  have  ACCEPT. 

CC  Ron,  it's  your  computer. 

CMP  Okay,     Going  to  BLOCK. 

05  15  57  11    CC  Okay,  Ron,  anytime  you  want  to  reach  up  and  so 

AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN  -  your  -  your  convenience. 

CMP  Okay.     Stand  by.     Is  it  I/5OO?     Yes.     Stand  by. 

05  15  58  37    CMP  MARK  it.     And  the  polarizer  all  the  way  to  the 

left.     Stand  by. 

05  15  58  U5    CMP  MARK  it.     That 's  the  polarizer  all  the  way 

counterclockwise.  ' 

CC  Got  you. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  eight  pictures.     Okay.  Standby. 

Okay.    Wait  a  minute.     I  lost  the  landing  site 
Stand  by.     Okay.     Stand  by. 

05  15  59  31;    CMP  MARK  it.     It's  all  the  way  to  counterclockwise. 

Stand  by. 

05  15  59  k2    CMP  MARK  it.     And  that's  all  the  way  clockwise. 


Tape  90B/5 


CC  Roger.    We  got  them. 

CMP  Frame  23  and  2h  -  1  mean  -  yes,  23  and  2k;  we're 

looking  north  along  the  ridges  there.     The  other 
two  polarizers  -  the  two  before  that  were  looking 
at  the  landing  site.     Then  I  had  three  -  three  red 
ones  at  a  1/500  and  1/250  and  a  l/25th  and  the  rest 
l6.    And,  the  "blue  one's  at  the  same  thing. 

CMP  And  we're  setting  on  frame  number  25  on  mag  XX  - 

that's  XX  .  .  . 


05  l6  01  03    CC  Roger,  Ron. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  9IA/I 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRAESCRIPTIOK 


05        kQ  08    LMP-LM      Oh,  okay.     I  thought  I  was  with  you  until  you  said 

pipe,  and  then  you  lost  me.     Okay.     I  think  I 
understand,  too. 

CC  You  know  the  prohlem  I  have  with  comnunication . 

LMP-LI'I      Hey,  thank  you,  ba.he.     We'll  give  it  a  try.     In  a 
week,  we  can  get  something  to  work. 

CC  Okay.     And  we  CEin  watch  you  on  the  tube  -  and 

make  recommendations  if  -  I  think  you've  got  the 
idea  of  it.    And,  you  know  Terry  Neil  thought  of 
these  ACT  clamps,  and  that's  a  great  idea  "because 
you  can  -  you  can  clamp  those  things  -  on  that  -  that 
old  dog  tail,  you  can  put  a  force  on  there,  that  - 
those  pages  ~  that  chronopaque  pages  will  never  get 
loose. 


CDR-LM  Yes,  on  those  other  clamps  we  had,  I  was  thinking 
about  -  paper  clip  -  type  clamps  would  never  hack 
it. 


CC 


CC 


We  tried  that  -  they  just  don't  have  -  they  don't 
have  the  push. 


CDR-LM      Sounds  good,  babe;  appreciate  it 


Okay.  We've  got  a  detailed  procedure  here  if 
you're  -  if  you  want  to  copy  it;  just  in  case. 


CDR-LM  Yes.  Stand  by  1,  though, 
CC  Okay. 


Hey,  you  know,  after  thinking  and  looking  at  the 
map  last  night ,  and  recalling  what  I  saw  during 
landing  and  where  I  was  planning  on  putting  it 
down  and  everything,  I  still  think,  to  the  best  of 
my  knowledge,  that  we  are  about  1  or  2  o'clock,  and 
I'll  increase  -up  to  about  200  meters  or  so  west 
and  slightly  north  of  Poppy. 


Tape  91A/2 


CC  Okay,  Geno. 

CDR-LM      . . .  ahead  of  you  . . . 

05  Ih  50  56    CDR-LM      Hey,  Gordie,  the  thing  that  fooled  me  yesterday 

is  this  depression  out  at  -  out  at  9  o'clock  here, 
which  I  -  is  greatly  undersized  for  Trident,  really 
isn't  Trident,  and  I  said  yesterday,  I  didn't  think 
how  we  could  be  that  close.     Well,  we  really  aren't. 
Trident  is  way  out  there,  and  I'll  still  hold  to 
my  200  meters  at  1  to  2  o'clock  of  Poppy. 

CC  Okay.     We're  thinking  you  might  have,  on  the  way 

to  the  geology  stops,  driven  between  a  couple  of 
the  Trident  craters  then. 

CDR-Il.!      Yes,  we  may  have  coming  back.     I  think  I  went  all 
the  way  around  to  the  east  of  the  last  one  going 
out ,  though , 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM      If  you  had  asked  me  at  3-  or  1*000  feet  where  we 

were  going  to  land,  I  could  have  told  you  exactly. 
But,  once  you  decide  where  it's  going  to  be,  then 
you  decide  where  in  that  where  it's  going  to  be 
if  you  forget  everything  else  aro-und  you. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      Besides,  Gordy,  when  you  land  on  a  boat,  all  you're 
worried  about  is  that  the  boat's  there.     You  let 
the  captain  worry  about  where  it  is. 

CC  Roger. 

05  15  5I+  51    CDR-LM      Gordy,  while  we're  eating,  have  you  got  a  short 

synopsis  of  the  news? 

CC  Yes.     Eure  do.     Stand  by  1.     We'd  like  JilOMMI), 

LEFT,  please. 

CDR-LM      I  don't  have  any  sensors  on,  Gordy. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM      You  have  to  wait  until  I  start  putting  my  suit  on. 


Tape  91A/3 


CC  Okay.     As  you  might  have  expected,  front  pages 

around  the  country  are  headlining  last  night's 
EVA  with  photographs  taken  from  TV  monitors  shov- 
ing you  and  Jack  going  about  your  tasks.     I  might 
add  that  the  TV  camera  is  really  spectacular.  It 
couldn't  have  been  a  clearer  or  more  beautiful 
picture,  both  for  fidelity  and  color.     In  other 
news.  South  Vietnam's  President  Thieu  has  sug- 
gested that  all  prisoners  of  war  be  released  before 
Christmas.     He  has  also  asked  that  all  Vietnamese 
parties  be  included  in  peace  negotiations.  South 
Vietnam  and  the  Viet  Cong  are  now  not  directly  rep- 
resented in  the  secret  talks  now  under  way  in  Paris. 
Meanwhile,    Kissinger  met  for  more  than  h  hours  yes- 
terday with  Hanoi  representative  Le  Due  Tho.  The 
two  negotiators  are  expected  to  meet  again  this 
afternoon.     The  former  President,  Harry  Truman,  is 
still  resting  q,uietly,  although  his  condition  re- 
mains serious  according  to  his  doctors.  American 
poet  Mark  van  Doren  died  at  the  age  of  78.     He  was 
a  professor  of  literature  at  Columbia  and  a  winner 
of  the  19^+0  Pulitzer  Prize  for  his  poetry.  Presi- 
dent Nixon  announced  yesterday  that  he  wants  to 
extend  price  controls  beyond  the  scheduled  April  30 
expiration  date.     He  also  plans  to  freeze  new  hiring, 
promotions,  and  pay  increases  for  executives  of 
the  Federal  Government,  which  doesn't  affect  us, 
I  guess.     The  Republican  National  Committee  has  a 
new  chairman. 

CDR-LM      How  about  me? 

CC  George  Bush  of  Houston,  who  is  Ambassador  to  the 

United  Nations.     He  will  continue  his  UN  post 
through  the  present  session  of  the  General  Assembly. 
Both  national  political  parties  are  now  headed  by 
Texans.     As  you  recall,  Robert  Strauss  of  Dallas 
became  Chairman  of  the  Democratic  National  Commit- 
tee last  Saturday.     And  Jack,  I'm  sorry  to  say 
that  you've  been  replaced.     The  Nimbus  5  weather 
satellite  is  now  operating  after  its  launch  from 
Vandenberg  early  Monday  morning. 


LMP-LM      Can  it  talk? 


Tape  91A/lt 


CC  Joe  Namath  tried  mightily  to  lead  the  Jets  to  the 

play-offs ,  hut  the  Oakland  Raiders  grounded  the 
Jets  in  the  fourth  quarter,  2k  to  l6.     I  think 
you  have  already  heard  that  score.     Namath  passed 
some  more  than  kOO  yards ,  but  he  was  only  able  - 
New  York  only  scored  one  touchdown.     And  the  last 
item  concerns  the  Houston  weather,  which  is  been  - 
there's  been  two  kinds  of  weather  since  you  aJ.1  left 
us:     That's  cold  and  light  rain  and  cold  and  hea\ry- 
rain,  and  it's  still  doing  it.     Fog  and  drizzly 
rain  are  here  now,  and  we're  only  supposed  to  get 
up  to  the  mid-UO's  and  probably  down  to  32  tonight. 
Over. 


LMP-LM      Holy  Smoly.     That  doesn't  sound  too  good  on  the 
weather.     I'm  going  to  take  a  look,  right  here 
up  the  overhead  window. 

05  1^  59  55    LMP-LM      Gordy,  you're  right.     There's  a  band  of  clouds 

that  comes  right  up  the  coast  of  Mexico.  Looks 
like  it  comes   . . .   Old  Mexico  and  then  gets  very 
dense  as  it  comes  up  into  the  Texas  area  and  south- 
eastern part  of  the  United  States  with  a  -  with  a 
counterclockwise  rotation  which  gets  very  dense 
down  over  the  Atlantic,  I  believe,  off  the  east 
coast  -  southern  east  coastal  states  and  from  about, 
oh,  I'm  guessing,  maybe  the  center  of  Texas 
straight  north,  straight  east.     It  looks  like  the 
whole  country's  cloudy. 


CC  Roger. 

LMP-LM  Baja  looks  nice;  west  coast  of  Mexico  looks  nice. 
CC  Roger. 

05  15  00  '?h     LMP-LM      At  Taurus  Littrow,  the  weather's  great. 
05  15  Oh  05    LMP-LM      Hey,  Houston;  Challenger. 
CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-LM      Roger,  Gordy.     How's  the  ALSEP  doing  and  in  that 
light  I  hope  you  people  will  take  as  close  a  look 
as  you  can  at  the  signal  strength  and  its  varia- 
tion and  see  if  you  get  some  idea  whether,  when  I 


Tape  91A/5 


go  after  the  neutron  flux  tomorrow,  if  I  ought  to 
work  on  that  antenna  alignment  again.     I'm  still 
a  little  Tait  concerned  about  it. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We'll  consider  that  although  they've 

been  getting  good  performance  out  of  the  central 
station,  as  I  understand,  and  a  couple  of  probloms 
with  the  experiments.     One  was  the  LEAM  data  isn't 
syncing  up  like  it  should.     I'll  have  to  get  a 
further,  more  complete  story  on  that.     And  we're 
thinking  that ' s  -  - 


LMP-M      I  told  you  — 

CC  —  mostly  on  ground  software  problem.     The  other 

one  is  the  LSG  isn't  leveling  up  properly,  and 
we'll  cover  this  further  in  the  planning  briefing 
for  the  EVA  here,  but  we're  probably  going  to  let 
you  off  -  I  mean  have  Geno  let  Jack  off  at  the 
Rover  -  I  mean  at  the  ALSEP.     Let  him  off  the 
Rover  at  the  ALSEP  and  take  another  look  at  the 
leveling  on  the  LSG.     That'll  be  at  the  end  of 
the  EVA. 


mP-LM      Roger.     I  may  just  run  out  there  and  let  Gene 

pick  me  up  after  we  -  after  I  tmrn  -  well  -  while 
he  fixes  the  fender  maybe  -  We'll  work  that  out, 
Gordy.     I'm  joking,  but  maybe  I  could  go  kick  the 
LEAM  -  that  might  help  it. 

CC  Let's  make  sure  we've  got  all  our  problems  solved 

down  here  before  you  do  that . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  hey.  Family  Mountain,  the  northeast  facing 
slopes,  although  lower  has  boulders  and  outcrops. 
I  mean,  below  the  outcrop.     It  has  boulders  from 
local  block  concentrations.     Looks  very  much  like 
the  South  Massif  does. 

CC  Roger 

CDR-LM  ...     the  old  sinuses  ... 

CDR-Lr4  I've  about  had  it,  1  think. 

LMP-LM  ...  chocolates? 


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CDR-LM      Huh?     No,  I've  had  two. 
LMP-LM      Oh.  ... 

15  09  50  Hey,  Gordo,  we're  still  eating,  but  let  me  give 

you  a  few  observations.     That  outcrop  I  talked 
about  that  was  way  at  the  top  of  the  South  Massif 
at  the  break  in  slope  -  at  the  very  top  of  the 
break  in  slope  -  almost  looks  -it's  hard  to  tell 
that  it's  inplace  outcrop  up  there.     It's  hard  to 
convince  myself  that  it  is.     Looks  like  there's 
some  very  large  and  many,  many  small  fragments  of 
large  -  like  3-  and  i+-raeter  rocks  up  there  and  a 
lot  of  smaller  fragments.     I've  seen  that  type  of 
of  thing  in  a  number  of  places  over  the  South 
Massif.     However,  I  -  do  see  -  they  also,  they  all 
seem  to  be  sitting  on  top  of  the  South  Massif  sur- 
face, but  I  do  see  one  other  area  that  it  looks 
like  there  is  a  -  it  is  protruding  from  within 
some  sort  of  mantle  on  the  South  Massif.  So 
conceivably  some  of  that  could  be  a  place  [?] 
An  additional  impression  I  got  is  -  is  that  at 
least  with  the  monocular,  that  those  fragments  - 
those  boulders  look  much  more  angular  than  what 
we've  seen  here.     And,  for  the  most  part,  they 
appear  to  be  -  if  covered  at  all  -  very  little 
by  any  mantle  except  the  one  I  just  mentioned. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-LM      And,  Gordy,  through  the  monocular,  in  contrast 

to  the  tan  gray  of  the  South  Massif,  those  large 
blocks  up  there  look  blue  -  very  distinctly 
blue-gray.     Not  unlike  Gene  mentioned  yesterday, 
anorthosite  -  anorthosites  look  in  certain  ter- 
restrial environments. 

CC  Roger  5  Jack. 

CDR-LM      And,  Gordy,  now  that  I  get  my  -  my  three-dimensional 
eyeballs  working,  I  can  look  up  on  the  scarp  -  out 
to  9  and  10  o'clock.     It's  practically  the  same 
color  as  the  South  Massif.     It  just  looks  to  be 
very  undulating.     I  see  no  outcrop  evidenced  from 
here  in  the  scarp.     I  think  I  can  just  about  see 
where  Hole- in-the- Wall  is,  but  it's  so  subtle  that 


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I  can't  really  tell  you  much  about  it.     And  the 
local  terrain,  which  I  think  is  the  southern  rim 
of  Camelot,  Just  about  blanks  out  where  Hole-in- 
the-Wall  should  be  -  just  about  covers  it  up.  But 
what  I  can  see  in  a  small  little  saddle  to  our 
local  horizon  here  in  front  of  us  -  I  can  see  out 
there  just  about  -  oh,  I'd  say  a  100  meters  or  so 
to  the  south  of  Hole-ln-the-Wall  and  it  just  looks 
like  a  subtle  undulating  slope.     We  can't  really 
tell  too  much  the  steepness  from  here. 

CC  Okay,  Geno ,  we're  -  Stand  by  1. 

CC  Okay.     I  had  something  for  you,  but  we  just  decided 

to  cancel  the  call.     Although,  when  you  do  get  out 
the  prep  and  post  card,  I  have  one  write  in  for  you 
so  just  holler  when  you're  -  when  it's  handy. 

05  15  13  25    CDR-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      We're  wrapping  up  our  eating  and  drinking,  here 
now,  Gordy.     We'll  be  ready  to  go  in  a  minute. 

CC  Okay. 

05  15  IT  20    LMP-LM      Gordy,  Challenger.     Could  you  ask  somebody  there 

in  the  FAO  console  to,  -  where  the  hiking  kit  is  - 
is  stowed? 

CC  Okay.     Will  do. 

05  15  20  00    CC  Jack,  take  a  look  on  the  right-hand  side  stowage 

compartment  there,  on  the  forward  lower  corner 
under  the  LEG  kit  compartment. 

LMP-LM      Gordy,  you  broke  -  broke  up  with  the  changeover 
or  something.     Say  again. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     You're  right.     I  got  caught  right  in 

the  middle  of  a  site  handover.     Look  on  the 
right-hand  side  stowage  compartment,  the  forward 
lower  corner,  under  the  LEG  kit  compartment. 


LMP-LM 


Fantastic.  You  picked  the  one  place  I'd  never 
look . 


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05  15  25  57    LMP-LM      Houston,  Challenger. 
CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-LIvI      One  quick  thought  about  the  gravimeter.     Anu  I'm 
sure  it's  heen  mentioned,  but  I'll  say  it. 
Diiring  the  CF  squared  we  asked  about  that  bundle 
of  wires  that  has  contact  with  the  girabal  -  and 
when  I  deployed  it,  that  bundle  was  -  it  still  had 
contact  with  the  gimbal  and  everybody  at  the  CF 
squared  said  that  was  okay.     But,  you  might  think 
about  it.     I  don't  know  what  I  coiold  do  to  help  if 
that  is  the  problem.     But  that  might  be  causing 
the  problem  here  that  it  wouldn't  cause  on  Earth. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     I'll  make  sure  the  experts  hear  that. 

CDR-LM      Gordie,  everthing  okay  at  home  today? 

CC  Yes,  everything  is  fine  here. 

CDR-LM      Well,  thank  you. 

CC  I'm  not  sure  I  copy  your  question  precisely. 

Haven't  talked  to  -  to  your  home  today,  at  all. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Don't  -  don't  worry  about  it.     I  just 
thought  you  might  have  heard. 

CDR-LM      Well,  if  you  hear,  Gordie,  just  tell  them  they're 
missed . 

CC  Okay;  I'll  sure  do  that. 

LMP-LM      Gordie,  has  anybody  heard  from  Tucson  recently? 

CC  Check  on  that.  Jack.     Just  a  minute. 

LMP-LM      And,  Gordie,  if  you  have  any  updates  to  tho  i-JV/V-2 
checklist,  give  me  a  yell. 

CC  Okay.     The  update  I  do  have  -  I  think  the  EVA 

checklist  changes,  we'll  just  call  you,  real  time. 
But,  I  do  have  one  for  the  prep  card. 


LMP-LM 


Go  ahead. 


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05  15  31  07     CC  Okay.     On  the  front  side  there,  middle  column, 

lower  half  at  138:^^5  OPS  COMECT,  half-way  down, 
it  says  install  PURGE  valve  in  PGA,  red  to  red. 
Mark  that  LMP  serial  number  211;  CDR ,  208.  This 
is  to  maximize  the  OPS  operation,  should  you  have 
to  use  it . 

U-T-m      Okay.     Give  me  the  nuir.bers  again,  please. 
CC  LMP,  211;  CDR,  208. 

LMP-LM      I  take  it  those  are  serial  numbers. 

That's  right,  the  serial  numbers  on  the  purge  valve. 


CC 


05  15  33  07     CC  Okay,  Challenger.     This  is  Houston.     Would  you  like 

to  have  a  little  update  on  the  EVA  plans? 

IMP-m      Do  you  want  me  to  take  notes? 

•^C  Wo  J  I  don't  think  there  are  essentially  any  notes 

required.     I'll  make  a  few  real-time  callups  to 
you;  but,  1  don't  think  there's  anything  you  really 
have  to  write  down. 

LMP-m      Okay,  Bob,  I  didn't  realize  that  things  were  getting 
a  little  hectic  yesterday.     But,  if  we  end  up  making 
any  changes  where  I  don't  need  to  get  a  charge  in 
my  hands  -  that's  an  awfully  good  thing  to  call, 
because  not  only  does  it  tire  your  hieart  -  your 
hands  out  holding  it,  but  it  m.eans  you  don't  get 
as  many  pictures  or  Rover  samples  or  anything  else. 

05  15  33  5^     CO  Roger.     You  guys  are  just  ahead  of  us  there.  We 

were  trying  to  get  that  up  to  you.     Okay.     No,  I 
don't  think  there  Is  anything  here  that  really 
needs  to  be  written  down.     I'll  go  through  with 
you  first,  and  we  can  talk  about  details  and 
writing  in,  if  you  want  to  on  any  of  them.  But, 
I  don't  think  there  is  anything  that  really  needs 
to  be  written  in.     The  EVA  -  it  is  going  to  be 
essentially  nominal,  with  two  minor  exceptions. 
One  is  the  -  we've  allowed  about  5  minutes  extra 
at  the  LK  before  leaving  for  the  Rover  fender  fix; 
and,  John,  we'll  be  ta.lking  to  you  about  that  in 
a  minute.     And  the  second  tig  change,  is  that  we're 
also  extend  -  allowing  5  more  minutes  at  tlie  end 


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of  the  EVA  so  that  we  can  have  extra  time  for 
dusting.     And  I  suspect  that  if  the  Rover  fender 
fix  works  and  we  aren't  getting  as  dirty  as  we 
did  last  night,  then  we  may  gain  "back  that  5 
minutes.     We're  also  allowed  -  well,  what  we've 
done  is  we've  taken  the  time  here  out  of  some  of 
the  tasks  at  station  3  and  station  k.     And  along 
with  the  fact  that  we  think  you're  a  little  bit 
farther  east  than  planned  -  and  we're  allowing 
h  minutes  additional  driving  time.     But  again, 
that's  all  real  time,  and  if  we're  doing  well  on 
time,  we  can  reinstitute  all  those  tasks  and  get 
rid  of  the  5  minutes  that  we  are  allowing  here, 
there,  or  elsewhere.     So  that's  just  sort  of  to 
keep  in  your  thinking. 

05  15  35  2k    GC  There  is  a  possibility  that  we'll  have  some  addi- 

tional overhead  at  each  stop,  depending  on  what 
the  Rover  ba.ttery  temperatures  are  when  you  get 
out  this  morning.     If  the  Rover  -  if  they're  high 
again,  then  we'll  have  to  probably  park  at  least 
on  some  of  the  stops,  if  not  all  -  with  the  up-Sun 
heading  and  dusting  the  battery  covers  and  then 
opening  them  to  let  them  cool.     But,  again,  that 
will  depend  upon  what  we  find  on  the  Rover  bat- 
teries when  we  get  out  this  morning. 

05  15  35  53    CC  The  varia-cions  that  we  found  on  the  surface  of  the 

South  Massif  indicating  a  possibility  of  layering 
-  I  guess  you  saw  those  mostly  with  the  monocular 
and  the  observation  of  boulder  tracks  and  the  size 
of  the  Massif  emphasizes  the  importance  of  sampling 
boulders  that  can  be  traced  to  sources  at  various 
elevations  of  the  Massif.     And  I  guess  we  should 
say  that's  hopefully.    And  we'll  just  have  to  sec 
what  happens  when  we  get  down  to  station  2  on  that. 
But  5  if  we  see  boilLders  with  tracks,  I'm  sure  you 
guys  remember  that  they  obviously  will  have  a 
higher  priority.     Since  we  didn't  get  to  Emory, 
and  since  we  didn't  really  get  to  the  rim  of  Steno 
itself,  the  question  of  sampling  of  the  actual 
subfloor  is  still  somewhat  ambiguous  although 
there  is  a  large  consensus  opinion  that  says  that 
we  sampled  the  subfloor  when  we  sampled  that  inter- 
mediate Gabbro  that  we  sajnpled  yesterday  at  both 
the  ALSEP  and  station  1.     The  -  here  is  a  possible 
alternative  conclusion  which  says  that  the  subfloor 


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has  not  iDeen  sampled,  but  that  these  blocks  that 
we  sampled  and  the  surface  are  both  parts  of  a 
later  flow.     And,  in  that  line,  we're  still  look- 
ing for  specific  observations  which  will  help  us 
distinguish  between  whether  or  not  the  dark  mantle 
is  a  -  whether  the  dark  mantle  is  a  separate  unit 
from  the  intermediate  gabbro  that  we're  seeing  or, 
whether  it's  the  -  Stand  by. 

05  15  37  30    CC  Okay.     Whether  or  not  the  dark  mantle  is  an  entirely 

separate  unit  from  the  Intermediate  gabbro  you  were 
sampling  yesterday  or  whether  it  Just  represents 
the  top  of  very  well  churned  up  layer  of  a  flow 
that  was  later  than  the  subfloor  -  if  you  see  what 
I'm  saying  there.     All  this  says  is  that  we're 
very  interested,  of  course  now  -  - 

CDR-LM      Roger,  Bob. 

OC  -  All  this  says  that,  we're  very  much  more  interested 

in  station  5,  as  you  might  expect,  than  we  were 
before.     And  I  guess,  for  this  reason,  we'll  be 
trying  to  keep  the  time  line  a  little  tighter  than 
usual  to  guarantee  that  we've  got  some  time  left 
over  at  station  5.     And,  we're  also  interested  in 
moving  perhaps  -  in  perhaps  moving  station  5  from 
its  present  location  there  in  the  southwest  of 
Camelot  over  to  the  southeast  or  east  or  some 
location  where  we  have  a  feeling  that  we've  got 
big  boulders  up  on  the  rim.     This  would  be  so  we 
could  sample,  hopefully,  some  of  the  light  material 
and  some  of  the  boulders  together  and  get  a  better 
confirmation  that  the  materials  from  deep  in  the 
subfloor  unit  is  this  intermediate  Gabbro,  as 
opposed  to  just  material  from  the  upper  part  of 
the  subfloor.     It's  just  a  matter  of  proving  to 
ourselves  whether  or  not  the  boulders  we  sampled 
yesterday  are  from  deep  within  the  subfloor,  or 
only  at  the  surface  of  the  subfloor;  or,  perhaps, 
as  I  said,  the  other  alternative  being  that  the 
intermediate  gabbro  is  part  of  the  dark  mantle, 
and  we're  seeing  a  churned-up  regolith  on  top  of 
it  -  sort  of  being  the  gaseous  upper  part  of  the 
flow  having  been  broken  down  rather  rapidly  into 
the  dark  mantle.     Okay,  stand  by  a  minute. 


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05  15  39  1^    CC  Okay.    To  summarize  that  again,  reading  -  I  guess 

I  got  ahead  of  myself  here  in  the  little  deal  they 
wrote  up.     At  the  present  time  we  have  two  working 
hypotheses  for  the  dark  mantle,  the  gahhro  -  and 
the  gabhro  relationships  to  each  other.     One:  the 
crystalline  rocks  that  we  found  in  the  gahbro  are 
an  upper  unit  of  the  suhfloor  with  their  dark  mantle 
cover  unrelated  to  them  in  time.     Key  observations 
that  they  suggest  here,  are  stratigraphy  at  Camelot, 
station  5,  and  other  steep  craters.  Especially, 
perhaps,  the  trench  and  sheltered  spots  which  are 
unguarded  -  ungardened,  as  in  plowed  -  for  an  older 
regolith  underneath  the  dark  mantle,  if  such  a 
thing  could  be  found.     We  don't  think  we  found  that 
yesterday.     Or,  look  at  the  superposition  relations 
between  dark  mantles  and  boulders  or,  the  mantles  - 
instances  of  the  mantle  on  the  boulders  or,  in- 
versely, of  small  boulders  on  the  mantle. 

05  15  ^0  06    CC  The  second  working  hypothesis  is  that  -  is  that 

the  dark  mantle  is  regolith  derived  from  a  vitreous, 
vesicular,  flow  top  of  the  crystalline  rock  flow 
beneath.     And,  it  again  goes  to  say  that  perhaps 
the  re  -  gabbro  that  we  sampled  yesterday  was 
indeed  the  late  flow;  and  what  the  regolith  was, 
was  derived  from  the  vitreous,  vesicular  flow  top, 
as  it  were.     Again,  many  of  the  same  observations 
are  called  for.     In  particular,  they'd  be  interested 
then  in  looking  at  the  coarser  fines  as  they  define 
as  from  a  millimeter  to  20  millimeters,  for  some 
sort  of  transitional  lithologies  and  textures.  In 
other  words,  what  do  the  small  walnut-size  rocks 
look  like,  if  you  can  in  hand  specimens?     If  I 
can  get  more  specific  in  terms  of  EVA  mechanics, 
let  me  say  that  we'll  call  out  in  real  time  ^he 
deletion  of  the  tasks  at  stations  3  and  h,  if  they 
become  necessary.    And  what  we're  planning  on  doing 
is,  deleting  the  trench  in  the  base  of  the  scarp 
at  station  3,  and  also,  deleting  the  radial  sample 
of  the  -  on  Shorty  at  station  h.     That's  the  pro- 
vision that  we're  planning  on.     And  depending  on 
how  the  time  is  going,  we'll  call  that  out  real 
time.     We  also  have  -  The  experiments  remain  pretty 
much  the  same.     We'll  deploy  the  charges  at  the 
same  locations  as  we're  planning  in  the  checklist 
at  the  present  time.     We  also  don't  -  for  yo-ur 


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planning  further  ahead,  we  don't  anticipate  any 
significant  changes  in  EVA  3.     The  charge  number  5, 
■which  we  were  going  to  deploy  at  Emory,  will  not  - 
but  didn't,  will  not  be  deployed  during  EVA  2,  but 
we'll  deploy  it  on  EVA  3  out  at  station  10.  And, 
what  we're  going  to  do  there,  is  when  you  take  the 
8  pounder  and  put  it  between  the  seats,  we'll  then 
have  the  3  pounder  left  over,  and  we'd  like  to  put 
that  on  one  of  the  footpads  in  the  Sun  -  that's 
probably  either  the  minus-Z  or  minus-Y  footpad. 
And,  we'll  leave  it  there  in  the  Sun  until  the 
start  of  EVA  3,  in  which  case  we'll  put  in  the 
Rover  underneath  the  IMF's  seat.     And,  thermally, 
that  looks  okay.     There  is  a  probability  that  we're 
going  to  play  the  "return  to  the  ALSEP  game,"  and 
we're  going  to  do  this  for  a  couple  of  reasons. 
One,  we're  going  to  go  back  and  look  at  getting 
some  more  ALSEP  photos.     I  guess  Gordy  says  you've 
got  that.     And,  that  will  probably  be  at  the  end 
of  EVA  -  in  fact,  it  will  certainly  be,  if  it 
happens,  at  the  end  of  EVA  3  when  you  go  back  to 
get  the  neutron  flux  probe.     I  might  also  say  with 
regard  to  EVA  3  that,  obviously,  we're  more  inter- 
ested in  station  10  than  we  were  before.  Another 
"return  to  the  ALSEP"  goodie  that  we're  looking 
at  -  if  we  have  the  consumables  today  when  you  get 
back  from  finishing  station  5  -  is  that  the  lunar 
surface  gravimeter  has  been  unable  to  level  itself 
over  the  night,  and  they  sent  some,  you  know,  some 
thousand  commands  trying  to  get  it  straightened 
out,  and  they  say  it  looks  as  though  it's  not 
level.     And,  so,  we'd  like  Jack  to  go  back  with 
his  practiced  hand-on-bubble  levels  and  recheck 
that  at  the  end  of  -  after  station  5  today,  if 
there's  sufficient  consumables.     And,  we've 
planned  for  Gene  to  just  let  Jack  off  and  let  him 
walk  back  to  the  LM,  after  he  gets  off  and  looks 
at  that.     And,  that's  about  -  everything  we  have. 
As  I  say,  in  summary,  that  the  big  changes  are 
going  to  be  extra  time  at  the  beginning,  taking 
care  of  the  fender  extension,  and  the  probability 
of  extra  time  at  the  end.    Although  we'll  have  to 
see  how  well  the  fender  works  and  how  things  go. 
The  probability  of  extra  time  at  the  end  to  allow 
for  dusting  and  the  time  spent  on  those  particular 
activities  we'll  probably  end  up  taken  out  of  the 
task  at  station  3  and  station  k.     Over.  Comments? 


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05  15  kh  12     LMP-LM      Oiay,  Bob.     We  copy  all  that.     Obviously,  you're 

going  to  have  to  catch  us  in  real  time  on  some  of 
the  details  there  -  on  the  charges  and  the  task 
deletion.     One  question,  did  you  say  we  vere  going 
to  delete  the  trench  at  station  3? 

CC  Hoger.     The  trench  at  the  base  of  the  Scarp,  in 

other  words,  some  of  the  stuff  that  you  would  be 
doing  while  Gene  was  taking  the  double  core. 

LMP-U^      What  do  you  gain  by  that? 

CC  Well.     No  coiiunent  on  that,  Jack. 

IMP-M      If  you  haven't  deleted  Gene's  tasks,  then  what  am 
I  supposed  to  do? 

CC  You're  supposed  to  help  Gene,  I  guess. 

IMP-LW      Well,  but  that's  not  the  way  we  worked  it.  Bob. 
Let's  play  that  one  in  real  time. 

05  15  ^5  05     CC  Roger.     That's  why  I  said  there's  no  point  in 

marking  up  the  checklist  on  that.  Jack,     Let  me 
hit  you  with  one  more  thing  concerning  the  battery 
■cemps.     An  initial  reaction  down  here  is  that  the 
battery  temps  were  high  on  deployment  because  of 
particularly  unfavorable  heat  soaking  on  the  way 
out.     And  the  Marshall  people  are  hopeful  that 
they'll  be  back  to  normal  this  morning.  However, 
we're  obviously  anxious,  as  I'm  sure  you  are,  to 
get  an  early  reading  on  the  battery  temp  -  that's 
number  1.     And  number  2,  just  for  the  off  chance 
that  the  meter's  not  working,  I  think  we've 
pretty  much  discounted  that,  because  of  the  waj' 
the  meter  worked  yesterday.     But,  on  the  off  chance 
that  the  meter's  not  working,  you  might  just  lean 
over  and  see  if  the  meter  is  reading  zero  before 
you  punch  in  the  circuit  breakers  ,  because  that 
would  give  us  at  least  a  psirtial  confirmation  in 
that  direction,  that  there's  not  something  wrong 
with  the  offset.     If  they're  reading  -  sitting 
there  reading  30  to  kO  degrees ,  then  that  prob- 
ably says  something  about  the  offset.     And,  beyond 
"Ch  at  -  - 

SC-LM 


Tape  9IA/I5 


CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-LM      I'll  look  at  that,  Bob,  what  the  meter  has  indi- 
cated in  terms  of  a  temperature  change.     I'll  look 
and  see  if  there's  a  hias  on  them  at  all. 

CC  Roger.     We  -  ve  again  also  think  that  that's  prob- 

ably not  too  likely. 

05  15  h6  26    LMP-LM      Bob,  I  think,  based  on  what  I  saw  yesterday,  that 

the  chances  are  pretty  good  that  all  the  big  blocks 
out  here  in  the  dark  mantle  area  will  be  pretty 
much  the  gabbros.     By  the  way,  1  looked  at  that 
with  a  hand  lens  last  night,  and  I  don't  know  that 
you  got  the  report,  and  I'm  back  to  saying  that 
it's  probably  closer  to  30  -  kO  percent  plagio- 
clase.     It's  very  -  it's  a  good  gabbro,  a  final 
pyroxene  gabbro,  and  it  apparently  has  a  fair 
amount  of  ilmenite  in  it.     There's  some  bright 
shiny  flakes  within  the  vugs  and  some  dark  minerals 
in  the  matrix  that  are  probably  ilmenite.     And  one 
other  additional  possibility  then,  is  that  the 
mantling  we're  seeing  here,  is  the  ~  is  just  dark 
fine  glass  -  darker  than  usual,  because  of  the  iron 
and  the  titaniijm  in  the  rock  itself.     Also,  the 
probability,  I  think,  still  has  to  be  considered 
that  you're  dealing  with  a  true  mantle  that  has 
been  gardened  enough  that  at  least  where  we're 
seeing  it  now,  in  the  first  few  tenths  of  a  centi- 
meter that  it  is  unrecognizable  as  a  mantling  unit 
yet.     The  relationship  to  the  large  boulders  is, 
I  think,  one  right  now,  of  just  filleting  and  a 
small  amount  of  covering  because  of  the  local 
gardening  process.     Vfe  haven't  seen  any  clearly 
mantling  relationships  between  the  dark  mantle  or 
the  surface  materials  here  and  the  large  boulders. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     And,  we'll  be  anxious  to  see 

what  else  you  find  out  today.     And  one  last  word 
for  your  interest;    che  Marshall  people  have  decided 
to  allow  us  to  go  to  ikO  degrees  on^this  EVA  with 
the  batteries,  if  necessary. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

05  15  ^8  UO     CC  Okay,  now.     John  would  like  to  talk  to  you  aboux 

the  fender  fix. 


Tape  9IA/16 


LMP-LM      Okay.     Hold  on  for  30  seconds. 


05  15  ^+9  22    CDR-LM      Hey,  while  John's  talking  to  me,  why  don't  you 

check  my  biopad  out.     We're  going  left. 

CC  Okay,  fine.     We'll  take  a  check,  Geno.     Let  me 

ask  you  one  q^uestion  here  on  the  -  on  Jack's  water 
-  on  his  PLSS  water  cell.     We're  showing  about 
3  pounds  too  much  water  in  the  LM  system,  and  we're 
wondering  if  you  got  the  AUX  tanks  filled  up  in 
Jack's  PLSS.     Two  questions.     Did  you  -  were  you 
sure  to  have  the  AUX  valve  open  and  did  you  see  good 
clear  water  in  the  sight  gage  with  no  bubbles  after 
the  fill?  Over. 

LMP-LM      I  guess  we'd  have  to  say  yes  to  those  questions, 

but  if  you've  got  a  question  on  it  we  can  go  through 
it  again.     I'd  rather  do  that  than  take  a  chance. 

05  15  50  21    CC  Let  me  make  sure  we  want  to  do  that.     While  we're 

making  sure,  I  checked  with  both  homefronts  and 
Nassau  Bay  and  Tucson  are  both  in  good  shape. 
Geno,  Tracy  upstaged  you  for  about  30  minutes  last 
night  on  local  TV  during  her  own  interview  there 
and  drew  everybody  away  from  watching  EVA  during 
that  time.     She  did  very  well. 

CDR-IM  Yes,  that  sort  of  -  that  sort  of  figures.  Key, 
Gordo,  why  do  you  say  Jack's  PLSS?  Did  you  see 
the  water  drop  in  the  LM  when  we  charged  mine? 

CC  It  was  the  profile  of  the  water  quantity  as  you 

were  filling  both  PLSS's,  and  it  was  the  fill  - 
during  Jack's  fill  that  looked  suspicious  like 
just  maybe  3  pounds  less  than  there  should  have 
been  flow  when  you  were  filling  Jack's. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  well,  you  know  there  -  it's  all  -  it's  only  ... 
to  know  whether  or  not  you've  got  it  filled.  I 
sure  don't  want  to  go  out  there  and  have  him  Just 
have  some  partial  water.     So  let's  do  the  conser- 
vative thing. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  -  I'll  verify  that.     There  was  r.orae 

drinking  water  going  -  going  out  at  that  time, 
too,  which  muddles  up  the  data  a  little  bit,  so 
we're  not  absolutely  certain  on  that. 


Tape  9LA/1T 


LMP-LM      Okay.     We  weren't  drinking  water  while  we  were 
filling  the  PLSS,  however. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     You  come  up  with  what  you  think  "best  on 
that,  and  I  going  to  copy  John. 

5  15  52  00    MCC  Okay,  Geno,  I  don't  think  you  need  to  copy  this. 

Sort  of  just  -  ad-lib  it.     With  your  f our"  chrono- 
paque  maps,  tape  two  maps  and  allow  about  a  1-inch 
overlap  to  a  15-inch  by  10-1/2-inch  configuration. 
That's  an  estimate.     And  then  repeat  with  two  othe: 
maps,  and  then  tape  both  the  two  maps  -  now  four 
maps  -  tape  them  together,  and  you'll  end  up  with 
a  sheet  that's  about  15  inches  by  19  inches,  a 
sheet  of  chronopaque.     And  then  tape  both  sides  of 
it  -  the  overlapping  edges  to  strengthen  it.  And 
you  can  further  strengthen  it,  if  you  tape  an  "X" 
of  tape  across  both  sides  of  it.     And  then,  on  the 
roll  up,  on  the  long  axis,  and  secure  it  with  a 
strip  of  tape  and  put  it  in  the  ETB.     And  on  that 
strip  of  tape  you  secur-e  it  with  -  be  sure  and 
leave  a  tab  on  the  end  of  it  so  you  can  get  it 
off  with  your  gloves.     And  then  remove  clamps 
from  both  the  utility  light  units,  and  open  the 
clamp  jaws  to  max.     And  then  tighten  the  mounting 
bracket  that  you've  got  on  it  so  it  will  be  swing- 
ing around;  and  stow  the  clamps  in  the  ETB,  You 
got  that.  Gene? 


CDR-LM      Yes,  sir. 

05  15  53  i+3    MCC  Okay.     And  then  -  now  you've  got  everything  you 

need.     And  it's  all  put  together  and  all  ready  to 
-  to  be  fastened  to  the  -  to  the  Rover.     And  then 
when  you  get  the  ETB  in  the  seat,  you  unroll  the 
chronopaque  sheet  and  you  locate  the  front  edge 
with  the  long  axis  fore  and  aft,  even  with  -  even 
with  the  axle.     And  you  lay  the  edge  of  the  sheet 
over  the  inboard  guide  rail  and  you  clamp  it.  And 
you  lay  the  other  edge  of  the  sheet  over  the  out- 
board guide  rail  and  clamp  it.     And,  as  I  said, 
the  inboard  clamp  must  be  directly  over  the  axle 
to  avoid  interference  while  steering.     And  tighten 
the  clamps  securely,  both  of  them.     And  then  while 
you're  driving  around  out  there  by  yourself,  it 
would  be  good  if  Jack  could  take  a  look  at  it  and 


Tape  9IA/I8 


see  if  you're  getting  any  unusual  dynamics.  And 
at  station  2,  you  should  inspect  the  fender  for 
any  unusual  wear  that  might  have  been  caused  by 
this  mass  out  there  on  the  fender,  of  those  clamps 
boimcing  up  and  down.     One  thing  about  it,  doing 
it  in  a  suit ,  Gene ,  you  have  to  push  in  with  your 
leg  and  hold  -  and  it's  sort  of  a  two-handed  job. 
And  I'm  not  sure  in  1/6  g  if  you  can  position  the 
fender,  the  pseudof ender ,  on  there  without  Jack 
say  holding  on  to  the  long  end  behind  the  Rover 
so  that  won't  -  won't  fall  off.     It  works  okay  in 
one  g  for  one  man.     But  I'm  not  sure  it's  not  a 
2-g  proposition  -  a  two-man  proposition  in  1/6. 
Over. 

05  15  55  27    CDR-LM      Okay.    We'll  take  a  look  at  it,  babe. 

MCC  Okay,  and  you  really  have  to  bear  down  to  get 

those  -  - 


CDR-LM      I  just   

MCC  -  -  things  on  a  dovetail  there. 

CDR-LM      I  just  want  to  make  sure  of  the  geometry  now. 

We  want  to  put  the  -  take  two  of  those  pages  and 
put  the  10-inch  sides  together  overlapping,  right? 

MCC  Yes,  sir. 

CDR-LM      Then  take  two  more  and  put  the  10-inch  sides  to- 
gether overlapping,  right? 


MCC  That's  true. 

CDR-LM      And  then  take  those  two  pieces  you've  got  now  and 
put  them  end  to  end,  so  you've  got  the  long  -  a 
long  fender.     Sounds  right  to  me.     Sound  right  to 
you? 


MCC  Well,  you  end  up  with  -  you  end  up  with  four  - 

you  end  up  with  all  four  pieces  in  a  big  rectangle. 
See  what  I'm  -  you  see  what  I'm  saying,  you've  got 
a  15-inch  by  19-inch  sheet  of  paper. 


Tape  9IA/I9 


MCC 


CDR-LM      Yes,  we  got  it  -  we  got  it,  John.     And  I  copy  the 
overlap  and  everything.     If  you  had  no  overlap, 
I  guess  you'd  have  ahout  16  by  20. 

That's  correct.     But  you  need  to  overlap,  and 
taping  hoth  sides  of  it  gives  it  more  strength, 
which  you  need  in  that  situation.     You  just  want 
to  make  sure  it's  not  more  than  an  inch,  or  you 
won't  have  enough  to  cover  up  those  dovetails. 

Okay,  babe,  we're  going  to  work  on  it  right  now. 


CDR-Lt-1 


05  15  57  25    CC  Jack  and  Gene,  this  is  Gordo  again.     On  the  PLSS 

charge,  we're  recommending  you  hook  up  Jack's 
according  to  the  decal.     Go  right  ahead  and  -  stand 
by  1.     Okay.     Go  by  the  decal  and  do  the  full 
5-minute  fill  on  Jack's  PLSS.     It'll  take  that  long 
to  get  the  AUX  tanks  filled  up,  if  it  was  indeed 
empty.     And  maybe  that's  something  you  can  start 
and  then  work  on  the  -  the  paper  taping.  Over. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

05  16  00  30    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     I  started  -  I'm  on  step  1+  on  the  decal 

-  step  5  on  the  decal. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,     John  Covington  advises  that  the  sight 

gage  is  not  a  certain  indicator  that  you're  filled, 
and  so  we're  just  going  to  go  by  time  to  be  sure, 
and  try  to  disregard  the  sight  gage  readings  as  a 
positive  Indication  anyway. 

LI^P-LM      Okay,  understand  that  from  the  past,  and  we  went 
exactly  by  time  before.     We'll  try  it  again  here. 

05  16  01  06    CC  Okay. 

05  16  05  hi    cm-m      Okay,  Gordy.     Is  that  about  5  minutes? 

Stand  by.     See  if  anybody  timed  you  here.  That's 


CC 


affirm;  5  minutes  now, 
LMP-LM      Okay.     Step  7  is  complete. 


CC 


Okay.  And  we  did  not  see  any  water  flow  to  speak 
of,  so  it  probably  was  full. 


I 


Tape  91A/20 


LMP-LM      Yes,  the  condensate  indications  here  were  that  it 
was  full. 

CC  Okay.     Better  to  he  sure. 

05  16  07  11    LMP-LM      No  questions. 

05  16  09  38    CC  Geno,  this  is  Houston  -  we  want  to  he  sure  to  have 

one  look  at  your  BIOrCED  before  you  get  into  the 
suit  in  case  something  is  wrong  with  it.    And  if 
you  go  right  hy  the  checklist,  we'll  miss  that 
look.     So  when  you  get  to  a  convenient  place,  if 
you  can  go  to  LEFT  and  have  us  take  a  look  at  it, 
we'd  appreciate  it. 

CDR-LM      Gordy,  apparently  you  -  Okay.     Stand  by.     I  called 
it  out.     I  didn't  give  it  to  you.     Stand  by. 

05  16  10  27    CDR-LM      Okay.     Now  it's  yours. 

CC  Okay . 

CC  Okay.     That  looks  good,  Geno.     You  can  press  on 

with  the  suiting  operation,  there. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Call  me  the  little  old  fender  maker. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      S-EAMD  VOICE  going  to  VOICE. 
05  16  12  06    CC  Roger. 

05  16  18  kT    CG  Jack,  Houston.     With  respect  to  the  PLSS  water  fill, 

last  thing  we  heard  you  say  was  doing  step  7.  We 
just  want  to  verify  that  you  did  go  ahead  and  do 
step  8,  which  is  connect  the  waste  management  sys- 
tem to  the  PLSS  AUX  vent  for  10  seconds.  Over. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  that  was  all  done,  Gordy.     We  just  got  side- 
tracked, and  I  didn't  call  you. 

05  16  19  08    CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  91B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAITS CRIPTIOW 


05  16  25  05    CC  Ron,  you  should  not  see  a  tape  motion  light  at  LOS 

here,  he  -  or  -  flag,  hecause  we've  got  the  dump 
done  and  rewound  ahead  of  time.     They're  rewinding 
it  right  now. 


CMP 


CC 


Oh,  okay.  Want  me  to  configure  the  DSE,  though, 
at  39:32  right? 


CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Okay . 

05  16  28  h9     CMP  How's  the  crew  of  Challenger?     Are  they  getting 

ah out  ready  to  go  out  again? 

They're  a  little  hit  delayed,  Ron,  hut  there's  no 
problem.    They  Just  slept  a  little  longer  and  - 
Yes,  they're  in  their  prep  -  pre-EVA  prep. 


CMP  Yes . 

CC  And  everything's  going  good 

CMP 


Bet  they're  going  to  find  that  Scarp  is  a  pretty 
good  hill. 


05  l6  29  19    CC  Roger,     We  understand. 

CC  America,  Houston.     At  your  convenience,  Ron  -  no 

hurry  on  this  -  we'd  like  you  to  service  your 
ZPN  sensors  on  each  side  there.     We're  getting 
some  had  data  on  that  now. 

CMP  'They're  itching.  (Laughter) 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Yes,  it's  pretty  dry. 

CC  Roger,     The  -  Dr.  Z.  recommends  you  might  find  a 

new  location  for  them  -  just  move  them  around  a 
little  hit,  and  put  some  cream  on  the  other  ones. 

CMP  Okay. 


Tape  91B/2 


CC  There's  no  hurry  on  that,  Ron,  I  wouldn't  interrupt 

what  you're  doing  now  to  -  for  that  -  it's  not 
critical. 

CMP  Okay,  I  understand.  Boh,  I'll   

CC  You  sound  like  a  tour  -  - 

CMP  I  will  as  soon  as  I  get  a  chance .  Okay? 

CC  Roger.     You  sound  like  a  tourist  up  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)     That's  right. 

CC  Going  to  need  a  Kodak  store  here  shortly,  I'm 

afraid. 

CMP  ( Laughter ) 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  you  might  want  to  look  at  your  Flight 

Plan  when  you  get  a  chance.    We're  coming  up  on  a 
SIM  hay  reconfiguration  here  shortly. 

CMP  Ah-ha.  Okay. 

CMP  56,  57,  58,  59  - 

05  16  35  02    CMP  MARK  it.  OFF. 

CC  Roger.     We  got  it. 

CMP  . . .  wherever  that  is . 

CMP  Okay.     RECORDER  is  going  OFF,  not  the  HEATERS. 


RADAR  is  OFF.    DATA  SYSTEM  is  ON.    Uh-oh.  Should 
have  the  SM/AC  POWER  switch  up  -  up  there  (laughter) 
at  230,  as  much  as  we  use  it. 


CC  Roger.     I  concur  with  that  one.     I  thought  it  would 

only  be  in  the  simulation  that  it  would  get  to  you 
on  that  one. 

CDR  (Laughter)     Yes.     Okay.     SM/AC  POWER  is  ON.  The 

old  MAPPER'S  going  to  STANDBY.     IR  is  going  ON. 
SELF  TEST  is  going  to  HEATERS.     UV  is  going  ON. 
Now,  we're  going  to  open  IR  and  we're  going  to 
wait  on  UV. 


Tape  91B/3 


05  16  37  19    CC  We  concur  with  that,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  We'll  give  you  a  cue  on  that  TJV  COVER,  OPEN,  here. 

05  16  37  33     CMP  Okay,  there's  the  IR.     Barher  pole.     And  a  gray. 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.    Are  you  going  to  try  to  ship  the  back-side 

DSE  back  in  there  for  this  next  pass  -  on  the 
Orbital  science  visuals  and  stuff? 

CC  Ron,  ve're  calling  for  the  DSE  operation  exactly 

as  -  as  it  is  in  the  Flight  Plan.     Is  that  -  do 
you  concur  vith  that? 

CMP  Oh,  yes.     I  concur-,  but  I  mean  -  sure,  that's  - 

that's  no  problem  there.     But  I  mean  getting  it 
back  to  Houston  before  the  end  of  the  flight ,  you 
know, 

CC  Negative.     That  was  not  in  the  plans  unless  you 

want  us  to,  Ron.  We  don't  have  any  provision 
to  -  to  -  to  record  it  and  send  it  back  here, 
mtil  it  comes  back  in  the  transcript  form. 

CMP  Okay,  no  problem.     I'll  paraphrase  what  I  say  then, 

and  when  I  get  into  AOS  over  there. 

CC  Okay.    No  sweat.    And  if  you  have  something  you 

really  want  us  to  listen  to,  we  can  bring  up  the 
loop  to  get  it,  but  it  takes  a  little  effort,  Ron. 
That's  all. 

CMP  Okay.    Yes.    No,  I  -  it's  -  let's  don't  do  it,  yet. 

CC  Ron,  I  just  heard  the  voice  quality  has  been  real 

good.     We've  listened  to  it  several  different  times, 
and  it's  been  real  good  and  we  can  bring  it  in 
without  too  much  problem.     Probably  wouldn't  be 
ready  for  the  next  rev,  but  we  can  get  it  in  here 
without  too  much  strain,  if  you  want  it  brought  in. 


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Okay.     I  think  it  might  be  worthwhile,  especially 
on  -  on  this  particular  one,  where  I'll  be 
essentially  talking  all  the  way  across,  on  this 
one . 

Okay,  we'll  just  plan  on  it,  Ron. 

If  it's  not  too  much  of  a  problem.  Yes. 

Okay,  Ron.     You  can  UV  COVER,  OPEN,  anytime. 

Okay .     Okay . 

OFF,  OPEU,  barber  pole.     And  it's  gray. 

Ron,  we  need  to  precondition  our        tanks  again. 
We'd  like        tank  2  PMs  to  OFF,  please. 

tank  2  FMs  are  OFF. 

Roger . 

And,  Ron,  just  a  reminder,  we  will  bring  in  that 
voice  from  the  -  the  rev  27  backside  pass. 

Oh,  okay,  good.    Thank  you.    Tell  the  lunar 
sounder  guys  I'm  sorry  if  I  pointed  their  antenna 
in  the  wrong  direction  there,  for  a  short  period 
of  time. 

No  problem.    Just  one  question,  Ron,  that  is  the 
Hasselblad  we're  hearing  every  once  in  a  while, 
isn't  it? 

There's  what? 

Is  that  your  camera  running?    Every  once  in  a 
while? 


Yes  . 


CMP 


Ko ,  not  now. 


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How  about  diiring  this  eat  period  -  on  this  pass, 
were  you  running  the  camera  quite  a  bit? 

Wo.     The  only  thing  was  -  was  the  Kikon. 

Okay,  understand.     We  keep  hearing  something  that 
sure  sounds  like  the  camera  is  chugging  -  - 

The  -  might  have  been  picking  up  the  tape  re  - 
no,  it  might  have  been  the  tape  recorder.  Might 
have  been  me ,  trying  to  clear  my  ears ,  you  know? 

No,  I  don't  think  so. 

Ron,  we're  a  few  minutes  from  LOS.    And  you're 
looking  real  good. 

Okay,  Robert.    Thank  you  much.     We'll  see  you  on 
the  other  side. 

Okeydoke,     And  I'll  try  and  get  through  to  the  - 
the  homefront  here,  maybe  for  this  next  pass.  And 
you  are  going  to  be  pretty  busy,  but  I'll  give  you 
a  little  update. 

Okay. 


BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  27 


...  it  as  well  as  the  -  some  of  the  more 
Eratosthenian  craters  around  Saenger.     Looks  to 
me  like  you  can  still  have  a  little  bit  of  a 
hint  -  at  least  of  the  layering,  or  a  broken-up 
different-colored  material  at  the  top  of  all  these 
craters . 

And  supposed  to  stop  and  rewind  the  DSE .  Forgot 
to  do  that . 

Roger,  Ron.    We'll  take  care  of  the  DSE. 
Okay.     Okay,  I'll  let  you  do  it. 


Tape  9IB/6 


CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  .  .  .    Okay . 

CMP  Okay.     I  took  three,  or  four,  pictures  on  mag  00 

up  to  frame  lOU  kind  of  looking  north  across  the 
Arabia. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy. 

CC  Ron.     Just  some  words  for  you.     We  placed  -  - 

CMP  Okay,  kind  of  a  -  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  No,  go  ahead  -  go  ahead  with  yours.    We  don't 

want  to  interrupt . 

CMP  I  was  just  going  to  say  that  on  the  crater  Aitken, 

on  the  other  side,  is  probably  -  there  are  no  - 
no  -  rays  -  visible  rays  that  I  can  see  at  the 
low  Sxm.  angle,  anyhow,  coming  across  there.  There's 
definitely  a  mare  floor  in  there.     It's  a  dark 
albedo-type  -  flat  floor  with  swirls  in  it i  no 
definite  expression  of  swirls.     One  thing  that's 
quite  apparent  5  you  have  a  flow  scarp  in  the  north- 
east corner  of  it  coming  out  of  -  oh ,  a  little 
cloverleaf-type  of  an  area  there.     I'm  going  to 
have  to  look  the  next  pass  over  it  to  see  if,  on 
account  of  the  south  domical  structure  that's  in 
there,  it's  breached.     And  I  can't  tell  if  the 
flow  of  material  is  flowing  to  the  east  out  of 
that  domical  structure  or  if  the  flow  is  flowing 
into  the  domical  structure.     I  ought  to  take  a 
better  look  at  that  the  next  time  -  the  next  time 
around . 

05  IT  37  11     CC  Roger.     We  got  you.     See  any  lava  marks  on  the 

crater  rims,  there? 

CMP  Well,  that's  -  that's  the  -  the  lava  mark  is  what 

I'd  call  -  is  almost  a  lava  scarp  -  in  -  up  in 
the  northeast  corner.     There  are  some  lava  marks 
along  the  central  peak.    They  aren't  nearly  as 
apparent  as  the  one  up  in  the  northeast  corner. 
The  northeast  corner  is  definitely  a  flow  front  - 
a  lava  flow  front ,  that  has  flown  up  the  -  the  old 
interior  wall  of  the  crater. 


Tape  91B/T 


CC  Roger,  Ron.    What's  the  color  of  the  dome  in  Aitken? 

CMP  Well,  the  color  of  the  dome  in  Aitken  is  -  the 

colors  are  hard  to  -  to  visualize  -  the  color  of 
the  dome  is  essentially  the  same  as,  as  -  pretty 
much  the  surrounding  material  around  there.  Maybe 
a  little  hit  lighter  -  a  little  bit  lighter  than 
the  surrounding  material.     Of  course  it's  defi- 
nitely lighter  than  the  floor.     The  floor  Itself, 
to  me,  has  a  tan  -  had  a  tan  to  it. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    We'll  have  to  break  away  here  a  sec- 

ond.    PM  CAMERA  MODE  to  STANDBY. 


05  IT  38  i+1    CMP  Okay. 

CC  If  you  haven't  got  your  Plight  Plan,  it's  PAN 

CAMERA  MODE  to  STANDBY,  then  POWER  ON. 

05  IT  38  55    CMP  ...     Okay,  POWER  is  going  ON. 

CC  Okay,  Ron-    And  it's  time  to  charge  battery  A  and 

we'll  cue  you  on  the  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  OFF.  Okay, 
that  should  have  been  deleted.     We've  already 
charged  the  bat  A,  so  -  - 

CMP  ...     Yes.     Yes.     It's  already  charging. 

CC  Right.     Sorry  about  that,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  no  problem. 

05  IT  39  IT    CC  How  about  the  freshness  of  the  wall  and  ejecta 

materials,  and  the  brightness  of  the  rim  deposits 
on  Aitken  while  we  have  a  minute  here. 

CMP  Okay.    The  brightness  of  the  rim  deposits  are  a 

little  bit  brighter  than  the  surrounding  area  on 
the  thing.     The  way  that  you  put  it,  probably 
early  Eratosthenian.     It's  definitely  not 
Copernican  because  I  can't  see  -  well,  at  least 
in  that  low  Sun  -  I  can't  see  any  rays  -  any  rays 
around  it.     But  probably  late  Eratosthenian  - 
somewhere  in  that  area  because  you  have  the 
slumping  -  Well,  it's  not  subdued  at  all.  The 
walls  themselves  -  of  the  crater  are  not  subdued. 
They  are  fairly  fresh  -  not  as  fresh  as  Copernican, 


Tape  91E/8 


And  -  and  I  just  can't  remember  whether  we  had. 
the  -  seems  to  me  like  it  was  brighter  at  the 
higher  Sun  angles  around  there,  which  indicate 
that  there  would  still  be  some  remnants  of  a  - 
of  a  bright  ring  around  it. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     And  whenever  you're  reatiy,  FM  CAMERA 

POWER  to  OFF. 

05  IT  ^+0  35    CMP  PAH  CAMERA  POWER  is  going  OFF. 

CC  And  we're  with  all  eyes  here  waiting  for  a 

Crisium-Serenitatis  visual. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  Anything  at  all,  Ron,  while  we've  got  an  open 

area,  anything  you  want  to  say  -  we're  following 
you  on  the  map  -  just  sing  out. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  Ron,  while  you're  thinking  here  a  second,  do  you 

have  any  views  on  the  possible  origin  of  the  domes 
in  Aitken*? 

CMP  Well,  I'm  pretty  sure  they've  got  to  be  volcanic 

in  origin.     That's  what  -  that's  what  it  looks 
like  to  me  anyhow.    And  especially  if  I  can  deter- 
mine that  the  material  in  the  northeast  corner  of 
Aitken  has  flown  out  of  that  domical  little  struc- 
ture in  there. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

05  IT  ^2  51    CMP  You  know  something  -  the  observation  that  I  think 

is  pretty  significant  is  the  fact  that  most  of 
the  30-kilometer  craters  on  the  back  side  of  the 
Moon  seem  to  be  fairly  fresh.     And  any  of  them 
that  are  fresh  -  by  fresh  I  mean  you  don't  have 
any  real  definite  ray  pattern  to  them,  but  you've 
got  a  real  smooth  -  not  smooth  but  streaked 
straight  -  slope,  U5-degree  angle  going  down  into 
the  crater  and  the  crater  wall.    And  then  you  get 
down  to  the  bottom  of  the  crater,  and  you  got  a 
flat  floor  down  there  or  sometimes  there  is  a 
domical  type  of  a  floor.     And  the  domical  material 
down  there  doesn't  resemble  anything  like  the 
stuff  that's  slumped  down  the  side. 


Tape  91B/9 


CC  Okay,  we  copy.     Ron,  if  you're  handy,  you  might 

hit  Error  RESET  on  the  DSKY.     It  looks  like  you 
might  have  hit  a  MARK  button  or  something. 

CMP  ...     Yes,  might  have  hit  the  MARK  button. 

CC  That  -  that  makes  it . 

CMP  Okay,     I  just  got  used  to  the  other  attitude,  and 

now  I'm  at  a  different  attitude.  (Laughter) 
attitude ,  though . 

CC  Roger.    Understand.     Roger.     Are  you  able  to  pick 

anything  up  on  the  Crisium  yet? 

05  17        37     CMP  No,  just  now  coming  up  on  Crisium.     I  just  now 

see  it  out  of  window  5.     Just  off  the  southern 
edge.     Let  me  try  window  3;  I  think  it  might  be 
better. 

CC  Okay;  you  might  remember  we're  looking  for  the 

colored  tones  ,  the  shades  between  units  up  on 
Crisium,  and  we're  looking  for  location  of  color 
boundaries  relative  to  the  mare  ridge  system. 

05  17  ^5  10    CMP  Okay,  I'm  looking  at  the  eastern  edge  of  Crisium 

now.    As  you  come  across  there,  it  looks  there 
might  be  -  a  little  bit  darker  -  You  know,  I  keep 
seeing  browns  all  the  time  up  here  instead  of 
grays  -  gray  tones.    Maybe  that's  just  the  way  I 
interpret  them.    They  are  -  to  me  kind  of  a 
brownish  tint  to  them,  and  it's  a  darker  brown 
than  the  -  the  stuff  to  the  -  to  the  south  of  the 
ridge  system  there. 


CC 


Roger.  Ron,  our  data  would  show  that  CM5  might 
be  a  better  window. 


CMP  Take  a  look  at  that  one.     Yes,  it's  a  little 

better.     Looking  straight  down.     I  am  just  now 
passing  that  crater  I  took  a  picture  of  on  the 
last  time  -  of  the  pass  on  there.    And  Instead 
of  having  a  round  bottom,  it's  got  a  diamond- 
shape  fill  in  the  bottom.     And  the  diamond,  itself, 
is  about  -  oh,  a  half  of  the  crater  diameter.  And 
this  is  on  the  south  rim  of  Crisium. 


Okay.    We  copy.    Does  the  ridge  system  cross  the 
color  boundary,  Ron,  in  Crisium? 

Well,  this  ridge  system  is  running  east  and  vest 
down  here.     The  color  boundary  isn't  nearly  as 
apparent  in  Crisium  as  it  is  in  Serenitatis.  Ex- 
cept that  right  under  me  right  now  there ' s  kind 
of  a  subdued  crater-type  thing  and  with  a  southern 
part  of  a  ridge.    The  ridge  runs  east  -  west,  and 
it  looks  like  we've  got  a  flow  coming  out  of  it. 
Let  me  see  if  I  can  get  a  quick  picture  of  that 
one.    Well,  lost  my  camera  (laughter).     Here  it  is. 
Oh,  it's  too  late;  it's  gone  now.     You  know  some- 
thing, you  see  this  subsolar  point,  it's  kind  of  - 
zero  phase  -  zero  phase  point,  I  mean,  is  following 
me  right  along  out  here  in  Crisium,  so  I  get  a 
different  color  straight  out  from  the  window  than 
I  do  out  from  the  edge  of  it.     So  I  think  that's 
going  to  influence  my  thinking. 

Roger,  Ron.     How  does  color  of  Picard  -  the  rim 
deposits  on  Picard  compare  to  the  surrounding 
mare  material  there? 

Okay.     The  color  on  Picard  is  -  is  definitely 
darker.     It's  got  a  darker  rim,  darker  material 
that  goes  out  to  -  oh  about  a  half  a  crater  and 
some  points  extending  out  to  a  crater  diameter. 
And  then  from  south  arcing  around  to  the  west  to  - 
to  the  northwest  corner,  you  got  some  light- 
colored  material  on  top  of  that . 

Is  any  of  that  tan  or  brown? 

It's  kind  of  a  -  the  darker  material  I'd  call 
tannish-gray .     More  gray  than  tan.     In  other 
words,  the  whole  mare,  itself,  I'd  consider  kind 
of  a  -  kind  of  a  light  tan.     And  then  the  type  of 
material,  the  dark  material  that's  flowing  out  - 
has  flown  out  -  is  kind  of  a  tannish-gray. 

Okay.     In  the  inner  appearances  of  Picard,  for 
color  variations,  can  you  determine  different 
units  based  on  color  and  flow  characteristics? 


Tape  91B/11 


05  17  ^9  ^2    CMP  Yes,  you  can.     In  the  area  vhere  you  have  the 

white  thrown  out  on  top,  you  essentially  got  a  - 
as  -  as  you  go  down  the  crater  wall,  you've  got  a 
white  streak  that  goes  all  the  way  around  it ,  and 
then  you've  got  a  dark  layer  underneath  that.  And 
then  a  white  layer  on  below  that. 

CC  Roger.     Are  you  saying  the  color  zones  are 

concentric? 


CMP 


Yes,  the  color  zones  are  concentric  going  around. 


CC  Beautiful.    How  about  the  central  peak  material 

to  that  of  the  crater  walls? 

05  17  50  30    CMP  Well,  the  central  peak  material  is  -  you  know, 

it's  more  smooth-type  stuff.    This  stuff  in  the 
crater  walls  is  -  fine,  straight  sloping,  except 
where  it  is  slumped  down.    Where  it's  slumped 
down,  it's  just  kind  of  piled  up  -  a  jumble  of  - 
type  stuff,  you  know? 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  know,  in  the  crater  nearest  over  there  has 

the  same  color  distinction  around  it  for  -  out  for 
about  a  crater  diameter,  except  it  doesn't  have 
any  of  the  light  material  on  it  at  all. 

CC  Okay,  Eon,  we  might  direct  your  attention  to  the 

dark  halo  craters  in  the  western  Mare  Crislum. 
Are  they  impact  or  volcanic  in  origin? 

CMP  You  can  see  some  of  the  rays  from  the  crater 

Proclus  have  spread  out  all  the  way  across  here. 
And  they  completely  cover  up  the  ridge  system 
that  goes  around  there,  so  I  can't  see  any  color 
distinction  on  the  eastern  -  or  on  the  western 
edge  of  Crlsium. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy.    How  about  those  dark  halo  craters? 

Are  they  volcanic  in  origin? 


Tape  91B/12 


05  IT  51  ho    CMP  Some  of  the  -  Yes,  I  was  looking  at  the  volcanic  - 

or  the  dark-rimmed  craters,  and  some  of  them  have 
what  I'd  call  a  -  an  ejecta  pattern  around  them; 
and  the  others  Just  have  kind  of  a  raised  rim  with 
no  apparent  "blocks.    The  one  to  the  vest  -  let's 
see,  southwest  -  of  that  little  V  that  sticks  out 
there  by  Yerkes  -  that  hill  that  sticks  out  there 
hy  Yerkes  -  now,  that's  the  one  that,  to  me,  looks 
like  it  has  an  ejecta  pattern  around  it  with  blocks, 
It's  about  a  -  oh,  a  thousand-meter  crater. 

CC  Roger.     Got  it.    Oh  that  crater  that  you  mentioned 

was  a  flow  pattern,  will  you  be  sure  and  make  a 
mark  on  your  map  on  that,  please?  We're  really 
interested  in  that . 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  ShoTild  be  coming  up  on  Macrobius  by  now,  aren't 

you? 

05  17  53  07    CMP  Yes,  I  can  just  barely  see  Macrobius.    And  -  ... 

be  better  out  of  window  3. 

CC  Okay.    We're  standing  by. 

CMP  I'm  looking  for  any  dark-halo  craters  in  -  I  was 

looking  for  any  dark-halo  .craters  in  this  area 
that  might  be  sticking  through  the  Proclus  rays. 
Well,  you  know,  you  compare  on  either  side  of  the 
Proclus  ray,  though,  and  the  same  size  crater 
rather  . . .  Tranquilitatis  or  the  -  the  moundy 
stuff  before  you  get  to  Tranquilitatis  are  really 
underneath  Coper  -  the  -  the  Proclus  ray.  You 
get  the  same  albedo  of  ray  material  from  the  small 
craters  in  either  case. 

CC  Roger.    We  understand. 

05  17  5^+  12    CMP  Oh,  here's  a  Macrobius  A  and  B.     Course,  J-3  is 

up  there.  The  two  dark  craters  -  well,  the  one 
just  -  north,  I  guess,  of  Macrobius  A,  and  also 
north  of  J-3  -  that's  the  one  that  has  the  dark 
momd  around  it .  It '  s  got  a  small  dome  down  in 
the  center.  It  -  it  doesn't  have  any  ejecta 
pattern  around  it  -  you  know,  no  rays,  no  nothing. 
To  me,  that  looks  like  -  it  sure  looks  like  a 


Tape  91B/13 


cinder  cone  to  me.    You  get  that  same  type  of 
feeling.     The  dark  halo  that  goes  around  it  goes 
out  for  at  least  a  crater  and  a  half  diameter. 
The  raised  dome  down  in  the  center  of  the  crater 
is  about  a  fourth  of  a  crater  diameter.     And  there 
are  no  rays .    And  it  has  a  dark  halo . 

See  any  color  tones  on  that  crater  at  all,  Ron? 

05  17  56  05     CMP  Yes,  the  color  on  that  particular  -  color  of  that 

is  the  same  color  as  you  see  in  Maraldi  and  as 
you  see  in  the  landing  site.     And  that  is  what  I 
consider  the  dark  tannish  -  tannish  gray. 


CC 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  92A/1 

APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

05  16  ho  09    CDR-L!'4      Okay,  Gordy.     Jack's  coming  up,  and  I'm  going  off 

the  air. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     LMP  is  suited,  and  -  stand  "by. 
21+128.     PRD  is  2I1I28. 

LI^P-LM  Hello,  Houston.     Did  you  copy  the  LMP? 

CC  Roger.     Copy.  2^128. 

CC  How  come  you  guys   . . .  not  flight  directing  like  I 
am? 

05  16  hi  23    CDR-LM  And,  Boh,  170U0  is  Commander. 

CC  Say  that  again  please ,  Geno . 

CDR-LM  The  last  two  digits  are  Uo . 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-LM  lTOi+0  

CC  Thank  you.     Thank  you. 

05  16  51  ^0    LflP-Lf^  Boh,  how  do  you  read  the  BIOMED  on  the  LMP? 

CC  Stand  hy,  Jack.     It  looks  heautiful.  Jack.  I 

think  that  means  loud  and  clear. 

CC  And,  Challenger,  have  you  changed  your  ECS  LiOH 

can? 

LI4P-LM      Boh,  we  did  not.     I  guess  we  missed  that  in  the 
checklist . 

CC  Okay.     That's  sort  of  towards  the  end  of  3-9. 

LMP-LM      Bob,  I  guess  we're  not  quite  there  yet. 
CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

05  16  59  ih     CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob.     The  canister's  changed. 

CC  Roger.     We  saw  that.     Thank  you. 


Tape  92A/2 


05  17  00  2k     LMP-LM  Okay.     BIOMED,  LEFT. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-LM  Bot,  how  do  you  read  me? 

CC  Loud  and  clear,  Geno. 

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  Bat  -  battery  management  going, 

CC  Roger. 

05  1?  00  kk    LMP-LM  37.2,  both  batteries. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     Just  like  always. 

05  17  00  52    LMP-LM  P  -  PCM  is  HIGH. 


CDR-LM 
CC 


Is  he  ready  for  the  batteries? 

Stand  by.  We're  still  picking  up  . . .  HIGH  BIT 
RATE. 

"'^  OJ^y-  Geno,  we  have  good  data  from  you  on 

the  Surgeon.     And  we  have  HIGH  BIT  RATE. 

Well,  that's  good  to  hear.  I  got  good  data  up 
here .  " 


CDR-LM 


05  17  02  15     CC  Yes    we're  GO  to  do  the  battery  management  now, 

Jack.     Pick  up  the  HIGH  BIT  RATE. 

LMP-LM      Roger , 


CC 


CDR-LM 


CC 


And  a  thought  for  the  day.     We're  not  sure  if 
there  is  going  to  be  any  need  for  the  scissors 
outside  today.     And  if  you  guys  wanted  to  keep 
from  picking  them  up  off  the  ground  and  worrying 
about  them,  you  might  just  leave  them  inside  if 
you  haven't  packed  them  already. 

Bob    you  never  know.    We're  going  to  take  them  out 
with  us.     So  just  make  a  note  that  we  bring  them 
back  in,  would  you? 

Okay.     I'll  make  a  little  note  again. 


Tape  92A/3 


IMP-LM 

05  IT  03  02  CC 

05  17  Oh  kd  IMP-m 
CC 

05  17  05  00  CDR-LM 
CC 
CC 

LMP-LM 

05  IT  05  i+5  CDR-LM 
05  17  05  h8  LMP-LM 
CC 

05  IT  12  1+0  LMP-LM 
CC 

05  IT  IT  ^T  LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 

05  IT  2k  23  CDR-LM 


Okay.     Battery's  complete,  and  your  cue  on  the 
LOW  BIT  RATE. 

Okay.     You  can  go  LOW  BIT  RATE  again.  We've 
looked  at  the  ...  too. 

LMP  is  6  ~  6l00  on  the  OPS. 

Copy  that ,  Jack . 

And  about  5 850  on  CDR. 

Okay .     Copy  that ,  Geno . 

And  you  guys  got  the  word  about  which  purge  valves 
to  use? 

That's  affirm. 

CDR's  OPS  is  GO. 

LMP  -  LMP  is  GO. 

Okay.     Copy  that.  Good. 

Okay.     Bob,  the  forward  hatch  is  unlocked. 
Okay.     Copy  that. 

Bob,  the  LMP  has  his  OPS  on.     Would  you  believe 
the  PLSS? 

Say  again  there.  Jack. 
The  LMP's  PLSS  is  on. 

Okay.  Good  enough.  And  I  bet  the  CDR's  doing  his 
now. 

You 're  right . 

Okay,  Bob.     We're  in  the  top  of  the  right-hand 
column. 


CC 


Okay.     Copy  that, 


Tape  92A/i+ 


05  IT  26  19     CDR-LM      MAX.     Okay.     I'm  in  VOX.     Okay.     Going  to  T/R. 

B  is  RECEIVE.     A,  T/R;  B,  RECEIVE.     Bob,  how  do 
you  read  commander  on  VOX? 

CC  Loud  and  clear,  Geno. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack,     Won't  be  able  to  hear  you. 

05  IT  26  51    LMP-LM      And  l6 ,  SE  AUDIO,  OPEN.     Okay.     Connect  your  PLSS 

coimn.    And  when  you  get  done  with  that,  we'll  go 
right  into  the  coram. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  zap  me. 

05  17  27  36     CDR~LM      Okay.     You  audio  closed?     Okay,     Your  PLSS  PTT  to 

main,  right,  verify?     PLSS  mode  A? 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     You'll  get  a  tone,  a  vent  flag,  a  press  flag, 
and  an  0^  flag. 

LMP-LM      Press  flag,  tone,  vent  flag. 

CDR-LM  Okay.  Give  Houston  a  call,  and  give  them  your  - 
your  oxygen  reading. 

05  IT  27  59    LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston.     This  is  the  LMP  with  93  percent, 

93  percent. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  read  you  loud  and  garbled  just 

like  last  night  when  the  antenna  was  stowed. 

05  17  28  08    LMP-LM      Okay.     And  93  percent. 

CC  Copy  the  93  percent . 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Houston.  You  got  93?  Okay.  He  got  that. 
Jack.  Okay.  We'll  leave  the  antenna  in.  Okay. 
On  mine,  I'm  going  to  OPEN  my  AUDIO,  and  connect 
to  the  comm,  Jack. 

LMP-LM      Okay . 


05  17  29  28  LMP-LM 


Okay,  Houston.     ...  on  ECS.     Cabin  pressure  may 
be  high.     I  picked  out  a  little  pvunping  in  the  ECS 
system  -  in  the  hoses. 


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CC 
CC 

CDR-LM 
CC 

CDE-m 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CC 

05  IT  30  22  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  17  30  1+9  LMP-LM 
05  17  30  CDR-LM 

CC 

05  17  31  03  CDR-LM 


Roger.     Stand  by  on  that. 

Okay,  Challenger.    We're  seeing  it  at  the  WATER 
SEPARATOR . 

Yes,  we  can  see  that. 

You  can  pull  the  WATER  SEPARATOR  circuit 
breaker  -  - 

You  don't  have  a  bleed  on  yours.  Hit  your  -  hit 
your  disconnect. 

Okay. 

Okay .     That ' s  bett  er . 

That  should  do  her.     I  think  we've  fixed  it.  I 
had  the  hoses  in  my  storage  box. 

Okay.     Copy  that. 

What  was  the  press  ...? 

Let  me  give  them.  Houston,  CDR  is  reading  -90- 
91  percent , 

Okay.     Copy  91. 

Did  they  get  that ,  Jack? 

Yes  ,  they  got  it . 

Okay.     LMP  comm  check  -  okay.     You  did  them? 
Yes  ...  -  - 

Okay.     You  go  B,  and  I'll  go  A. 

Okay.     Going  B,  Houston.     LMP  on  B. 

Okay.     And  the  CDR  is  B,     I  -  I'm  reading  loud 
and  clear.     Houston,  how  do  you  read  CDR? 

I  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

Okay.     Let's  go  to  AR,  Jack.     You'll  get  a  tone. 


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LMP-LM      Okay.     You're  loud  and  clear.  AR. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 
05  IT  31  11    LMP-LM      I'm  AR.     How  do  you  read? 

CDR-LM      And  I  -  you're  loud  and  clear.     How  me? 

05  IT  31  15    LMP-LM  And  so  are  you. 

CDR-LM      Got  my  tones. 

LMP-LM  Yes,  and  I  got  mine,  too. 

05  IT  31  18    CDR-LM  You  got  an  0  flag  and  a  vent  flag,  press  flag 

a  -  - 

LMP-LM  That's  affirm. 

05  IT  31  21    CDR-LM  Okay.     Houston,  how  do  you  read  CDR? 

CC  Loud  and  clear,  CDR. 

05  IT  31  28    LMP-LM  And  how  do  you  read  the  LMP? 

CC  Loud  and  clear. 

CC  Okay.     And  we  have  -  - 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Jack,  VHF  B   

•^C:   good  PLSS  data  for  both  of  you. 

CDR-LM    full  decrease. 

LMP-LM  SQUELCH? 

CDR-LM  Full  decrease. 

05  IT  31  hi    LMP-LM  Yes,  that's  SQUELCH.     VHF  B  SQUELCH. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     On  l6,  ECS  LGC  [sic]  PUMP,  closed.  Why 
don't  you  close  it  again. 

05  IT  31  h6    LMP-LM  Okay,  it's  closed. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     On  l6,  CABIN  REPRESS,  closed. 


Tape  92A/T 


05  IT  31  51  LMP-M 

cm-m 

CDR-LM 

05  17  32  09  LMP-M 

cm-m 

05  IT  32  12  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  IT  32  21  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  IT  32  25  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  IT  32  2T  LMP-LM 
05  IT  32  28  CDR-LM 

05  IT  32  35  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  IT  32  39  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Repress  -  is  closed.     Hit  this,  too. 
Huh?  Okay. 

Okay.     CABIN  REPRESS,  closed.     SUIT  FAJS  DELTA-P, 
OPEN? 

Delta-P  is  OPEN. 
SUIT  PAN  2,  OPEN? 
2  is  OPEN. 

Verify  ECS  CAUTION  and  0^  -  and  WATER  SEP  lights 

come  on  in  atout  a  minute.     Okay.    We'll  watch 
for  it. 

Okay. 

SUIT  GAS  DIVERTER,  PULL,  EGRESS.     These  are 
verify. 

Okay.     That's  EGRESS. 

CABIN  GAS  RETURN,  EGRESS? 

Okay.     EGRESS,  yes. 

SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF,  AUTO. 

AUTO. 

Okay.     You're  OPS  connect.     SUIT  ISOL  ACTUATE 
OVERRIDE,  SUIT  DISCONNECT.     Disconnect  your  hoses. 
Secure  ahout  PGA.     They're  stowed. 

That's  done. 

Connect  your  OPS  hose  PGA  "blue  blue. 

OBS  [sic]  going  to  PGA,  and  I'll  turn  around  and 
let  you. 

Okay.     Make  sure  I  get  that,  "because  it's  under 
that  connector. 


Tape  92A/8 

LMP-M 


Okay.  Did  you  already  get  -  let's  see,  where 
are  ve  here? 


CDR-LM      Right  here. 

05  17  32  56     IMP-LM      Oh,  here  it  is,  now.     MASTER  ALARM  and  ECS  llpht ■ 

WATER  SEP  light.  ' 

05  17  33  10    CDR-LM      Okay.     It  is  locked,   ...  is  on. 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM      Now,  you  want  211,  right? 
LMP-LM      Roger.  211. 
05  17  33  20    CDR-LM      Okay.     Bob,  LMP  is  getting  purge  211. 

And  out  to  the  side  -  there  you  go. 


LMP-LM 


CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.     Thank  you. 

05  17  33  35    CDR-LM  Here,  I'll  lock  it.     Okay.     And  you  are  LOW  and 

you  are  in  and  you  are  locked. 

05  17  33  42    CDR-LM  Okay.     Purge  valve  is  in.     And  you're  vertical. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     You  get  to  do  the  same.     Okay,  get  my  hose? 

05  17  33  1+7    CDR-LM  Water  hose. 

LMP-LM  Come  around  behind  my  shoulder. 


CDR-LM 


It  won't  fit  in  there.  Okay,  it's  in  there  and 
it's  locked,  vented,  and  the  dust  cover  is  on. 


LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      And  now,  we  get  to  put  your  PURGE,  in  208. 
LMP-LM      Make  sure  it's  in  LOW. 

05  17  3i+  18    CDR-LM      It  is,  and  LOW,  and  the  pin  is  in.     Okay.     And  you 

like  it  where?     Down  a  little  bit? 


LMP-LM 


No.     Same  place  just  -  no,  let  me  show  you. 


Tape  92A/9 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  IT  3h  hk  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

cm-m 
LMp-m 

CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR~LM 
LMP-LM 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  17  36  11  LMP-LM 

05  17  36  Ih  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 


Right  there? 
Yes. 

Okay,  there.     And  verify  it's  still  in  LOW  axid 
locked. 

Okay. 

Okay.     That's  good. 

Let's  get  another  zap  of  water  here. 

If  I  have  any  more  water  I'll  float  out  there. 

(Laughter) 

Good  Navy  man. 

Be  a  good  place  to  fill  with  water,  you'd  make  a 
nice  rec  site  out  of  this  valley.     You  could  put 
some  cabins  up  on  the  side  of  the  massif.  Nice 
flat  bottom,  no  trees.     Both  mags  up.     The  fishing 
ought  to  be  pretty  good  if  you  stocked  it. 

Have  a  bear  island  and  a  family  island. 

(Laughter) 

We're  going  to  fill  up  the  other  end  though,  so 
It  doesn't  drain  out. 

Looks  funny  like  that. 

. • .  turn  your  DESCENT  WATER  OFF . 

Snaps,  snaps,  snaps;  the  whole  world  is  held 
together  with  snaps! 

Okay,  I've  got  my  hand  lube.     You  can  position 
your  mikes . 

Water  is  going  off. 
Okay. 

Fasten  your  mikes  now,  before  we  turn  the  fans 
on  you'd  better  - 


Tape  92A/10 


LMP-LM      Well  let's  just  look  ahead;  we've  got  helmets 
ready  to  go  -  big  bag  position  you  happy  with. 

Cm-m      Yes ,  more  or  less  a  little  far  out ,  but  I  think 

LMP-LM      Make  sure  you've  got  the  plug  out. 

05  17  36  30    CDR-LM      Okay.     Plug  is  out.     My  end- s  red  now,  but  that ' 

all  you  can  get  it  out. 


CDR-LM 


Feel  a  little  pressiure  in  there.     You  might  let 


out 


LMP-LM      Okay.     And  then  we'll  lower  our  protective  visor 
and  secure  tool  harness  and  self  doff  straps. 

CDR-LM      Okay  ,  and  that ' s  ... 

LMP-LM      That's  already  stowed.     Okay.     Let's  start  with 
you  first.     You  can  turn  your  -  let  me  get  your 
then  you  can  get  it  over  your  head  and  turn  your 
0^  -  your  fan  on  rather. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  you  ready? 

CDR-LM      Okay,  check  all  that  - 

LMP-LM      Wait  what  is  this  right  here?     Okay,  now  let  me 
make  sure  it's  in  front  of  everything. 

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  The  alignment  is  way  over  here. 

LMP-LM  Let  me  - 

CDR-LM  That's  good.     Okay.     That's  aligned  right  there. 

LMP-LM  Oh,  boy. 


That  will  never  do.  With  that  down  in  there 
Okay.     You're  still  clear.  Starting. 


CDR-LM 
CDR-LM  Manischewitz 


Tape  92A/11 


LMP-m 

CDR-M 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

05  IT  39  13  CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  17  39  22  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  IT  39  57  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


I  think  it's  caught  on  the  food  stick.     I  think 
you  ought  to  open  it  up. 

I  think  you're  right. 

Okay.     Get  it  all  the  way  off. 

Okay.     Now  let's  try  it.     Looks  like  it's  going 
to  "be  much  "better.    Getting  it  back. 

Want  to  make  sure  that  thing  is  on. 

No ,  not  happy  yet .     Not  happy  yet . 

Guess  what  now.     I  tell  you,  I  got  my  fingers  on 
it  all  the  way  around. 

Okay.     It's  locked.     It's  aligned.     Better  put 
your  .fan  on  here  pretty  quick. 

Okay .     Fan ' s  on . 

Okay,  let  me  get  you  dressed  up  back  here.  If 
that  center  doesn't  work,  you're  going  to  keep 
this  thing  - 

And  I'm  vertical. 

You  are  vertical  alright.     Okay.     You're  covered 
down  there.     You  are  locked.     Okay  -  whool  Okay? 

This  is  my  turn. 

Let's  verify  all  these  things. 

Okay.     Go  ahead. 

Okay.     Got  your  comm.     That's  you  OPS,  that's 
your  Inlet,  that's  your  oxygen  or  your  exhaust  and 
your  purge  valve. 

Okay. 

And  your  water 

Okay ,  let  me  take  a  look  at  all  yours ,  Okay . 
Tliat's  locked  -  locked,  that's  locked,  you're 
vertical.     That's  locked.     That's  locked.  That's 


Tape  92A/12 

locked.  Okay.  Get  my  helmet  on.  The  main  thing 
is  to  get  this  stuff  back  over  here. 

CDR-LM      Yes . 
CDR-LM      Way  out. 

LMP-M      Okay.     Caji  you  grab  your  food  stick,  cause  that  - 
that  hung  up  on  mine. 

CDR-LiVI  Okay . 

CDR-LM  Got  it.     You're  locked. 

mP-m  Feels  good  in  the  back? 

CDR-LM  Yes.     And  it's  locked. 

LMP-LM  It's  hard  to  see  with  that  visor  on  there. 

CDR~LM  Okay.     That's  latched  down.     You're  locked  again. 

CDR-LM  And,  she's  in  the  engaged  position  here,  huh? 

LMP-LM  That's  affirm.     I'm  engaged. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Verify,  verify,  verify.     Circuit  breaker 
wiped  out  plus  EVA  decals. 

CDR-LM      Whoo!     Can  you  give  me  a  little  room  to  turn? 

LMP-LM      Yep.  Go  ahead. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     White,  white.     Leave  the  pump  on  for  a  min- 
ute .  You  want . 

LMP-U^  Yes . 

CDR-LM  Okay;  and  EVA  decals,  all  right? 

LMP-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  You  want  me  over  here? 

LMP-LM  Let  me  turn  the  page.     Don  our  EV  gloves. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     In  work. 


Tape  92A/13 


CC  Geno,  we  don't  see  your  fan  on.     If  you've  got 

your  helmet  on ,  you  ought  to  have  your  fan  on . 

CDR-LM      Thank  you ,  Bob .     Good  call .     The  royal  MOCK  . . . 

Boy,  grease  and  luneir  dust  really  make  a  nice 
motiile  graphite  material. 

05  IT  ^3  52     IMP-m      Okay.     I'm  locked  on  the  right,  verified.     The  old 

gauntlet's  coming  on.     Okay,  and  I've  got  my  cover 
on  over  here.     Get  yours? 

CDR-M  Yes,  I'm  getting  one  of  them  anyway. 

LMP-LM  I  can  get  the  other  one  for  you. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Number  2.     Okay,   ...  many. 

CDR-LM  And  it's  on,  and  locked,  and  locked  verified. 

LMP-LM      I  may  be  learning  how  on  these,  finally.  Okay. 
Mine's  on  and  locked.     If  I  can  get  my  black 
band  on  here.     I  think  I'm  learning  how,  Geno. 
Crazy.     Like  a  trained  band  putter  onner.  Okay. 
I  feel  pretty  good.     Need  some  help? 

CDR-LM      No,  mine's  all  on.     I  can't  figure  that  out.  Must 
be  easier  in  1/6  g. 

CDR-LM  (Laughter) 

CDR-Lf-I      Get  my  gauntlet  donned.     And  that's  dirt  protecting 
dirt . 

LMP-LI^l      Don't  throw  down  a  gauntlet.  Gene. 

CDR-LM      That's  dirt  protecting  dirt.     Okay.     It's  all  on. 
Jack. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     Where  did  we  leave  off? 

05  IT  ^6  11    CDR-LM      Right  up  here. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  PGA  is  not  biting,  LCG's  cold,  let's  leave 
it  cold. 

CDR-LM      Well,  I  guess  you've  got  to  open  it  now.  We've 
got  to  disconnect  the  water. 


Tape  92A/11+ 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-U'^ 

05  17  h6  27  LMP-LiM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

05  17  1|8  07  CDR-LM 


You  ready? 
Yes . 

Let's  do  it  then. 

Okay.     It's  disconnected. 

Okay,  and  did  you  disconnect  your  - 

Let  me  come  aroimd  -  okay ,  let '  s  turn  around  and 
let's  help  each  other.     Let's  get  the  - 

It's  still  3  degrees.     Pitch  up  5  degrees. 

Pitch  up  yours  -  its  an  awful  nuisance,  Cernan. 

Hold  that  for  a  minute. 

I  don't  know  why  you  don't  learn  how  to  land  one 
of  these  things . 

Hold  that  for  a  minute  -  it  was  a  pitching  deck. 
Okay,  that  is  in.  Boy,  its  in.  Locked  -  took  a 
lot  to  "in"  it. 

Okay.     Dust  cover  is  covering  it. 

Okay,     You  know  those  chamher  runs  we  had  were 
probahly  some  of  the  best  training  we  ever  did. 
I  hate  to  say  that,  because  it  was  some  work. 
Push  that  thing  on.     There  you  go.     Good.  Keep 
trying.     It  was  just  a  little  sluggish.     Let  me 
verify  it. 

Lock? 

It  won't  turn. 

Oh,  every  time  you  do  that,  my  stomach  gurg] es . 
(Laughter)    Okay,  let  me  turn  around  to  stow. 

You  can  stow  that,  and  mine's  over  here. 

Okay.  Attach  our  PLSS  water  hoses.  PLSS  diverter 
valve,  MIN.     Want  to  verify  that? 


05  IT  ^8  21  LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LI-'I 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LI.1 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  IT  h9  h2  CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 


Tape  92A/15 

And,  connect  PLSS  water  hose,  verify  lock,  PLSS 
diverter  valve  MIN,  and  PLSS  pump.  Okay? 

Wait  a  minute.     I  want  to  make  sure  this  is  out 
of  the  way  when  I  come  in. 

Okay.    Watch  my  diverter  MIW. 

Watch  your  diverter  - 

It's  MIN. 

It's  MIN?    Your  pump's  on  and  PRESS  REGs  A  and  B 
egress . 

Okay .     Pump ' s  on . 

Man,  I'm  getting  a  little  bite  ... 

Okay.  The  next  thing  is  to  turn  your  PLSS  0  on, 
anyway .  2 

Oh ,  okay . 

Then  we  go  to  egress. 
Egress . 

Egress  on  the  REGs. 

The  REGs  are  egress. 

Okay.     You  ready  on  my  mark. 

Wait  a  minute. 

Tell  me  when  you're  ready. 

Find  it. 

Say  when. 

Well,  where  is  it?     Okay,  let's  go  aft. 

Okay  mark  it.     Get  it? 

If  not,  I'll  get  it  for  you. 


Tape  92k/lG 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-M 

05  17  1+9  57  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

05  17  51  22  LMP-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

05  17  51  32  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


No. 

Here.     Let  me  get  it  for  you. 

Wait  a  minute.     I  didn't  get  it.     No,  there  it  is. 
Okay,  I've  got  it.     Okay.     We  going  at  the  same 
time  I've  got  us  marked. 

Okay.     PLSS  0^  tone  on;  0^  flag.     PLSS  flag  clear 
3  to  i+  -  3. it.     CUFF  gauge  3.7  to  U.O. 

Do  you  need  me  to  watch  the  panel  or  you  got  it? 

No,  no  sweat  I've  got  that.     We'll  have  to  get 
the  PLSS  0^  OFF.     I'll  get  mine;  I  can  reach  yours 

real  easy.     I  can  get  it  in  a  minute.     As  soon  as 
we  get  up  I'll  get  it.     Yes,  I  can  reach  it,  I 
think,  now.     And  we're  going  up  to  HIGH  PRESSURE 
here  when  we  start  dumping  the  cabin. 

I've  gone  through  3.5  now  -  3,U  really. 

Just  off  the  peg  here.     1^  press  flag  didn't  clear. 

There's  mine. 

Turn  mine  off.     Okay.     Mark  it.     It's  off. 
Where  are  you? 
At  385. 

Okay,  when  you  get  up,  you  can  turn  yours  off. 
Give  me  a  hand,  and  I'll  check  the  time. 

Okay.     Mine's  off. 

Okay.     Check  your  pressure. 

38 .     I  went  at  20 ,  you  went  at  30 . 

It  looks  like  it's  a  little  tighter. 

That  was  the  suit  loop  we  were  checking  yesterday 
up  in  orbit,  though. 


Tape  92A/17 

LMP-IiM      Yes  ,  but  you  know  we  got  two  tenths . 
IMP-IM      Yesterday,  too, 
LMP-LM      I  did. 

CDR-LM      I'm  coming  down  20  more  seconds,  you  got  30  more 
seconds . 

CDR-LM      I'm  over  about  a  tenth  I  guess. 

05  IT  52  20     CDR-LM      Okay;  1  minute  for  me  Houston;  85  to  7  -  about 

7.2. 

CC  Copy  that,  Geno. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     That  it? 
CDR-LM      Okay.     Mark  yours. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     And  the  IMP  was  8  -  .8  to  .7. 
CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-LM      And  I'm  back  on.     Okay,  and  we'd  like  your  GO, 

Robert . 

CC  You're,  you're  GO  for  DEPRESS. 

05  IT  52  55     CDR-LM      Okay.     Jack,  I6  CABIU  REPRESS,  OPEN  and  CABIN 

REPRESS  valve,  CLOSED. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  CABIW  REPRESS.     Circuit  breaker  first. 

Circuit  breaJter  first.     CABIN  REPRESS,  OPEN. 


LMP-LM 


Okay.     Might  turn  around  here.     Okay,  it's  open. 


U/IP-LM      Okay.     And  REPRESS  valve  closed. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     It's  going  closed.     And  stay  over  there  as 
far  as  you  can,  cause  I  got  to  get  the  overhead 
dump  valve . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I'm  over  as  far  as  I  can  get.     I  can  turn 
around  and  give  you  more  room. 


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CDR-Kvl      Yeah,  turn  around  and  you'll  have  to  look  at  the 
CABIN. 

LMP-m      Watch  yourself  there.     You  went  awful  weak  all  of 
a  sudden.    Are  you  -  Hello.     How  do  you  read? 

CDR-LNI  Very  weak.     You  better  call  again. 

LMP-LM  Very  weak? 

CDR-LM  Okay.     My  volume  got  tang  - 

LMP-LM  You  got  to  hit  your  volume. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  now. 

IjMP-LM  Let  me  get  over  here  ~ 

CDR-LM  Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-LM  Is  that  enough? 

U^P-LM  Yeah,  your  garb's  in  the  way. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     I  can  get  at  it  now. 

liVCP-LM  You  want  to  go  to  -  you  want  to  get  that  -  OPEN 
and  AUTO  at  3-5.     Okay,  go  ahead. 


CDR-LM 


Okay.  Coming  down.  I  can  see  it  open.  There 
it  is.     That's  5,  k  and  one-half,  U,  stand  by. 


CDR-LM      Mark  it. 

05  17  5h  09    CDR-LM      It's  off,  say  about  3.4.    And,  I  go. 

LMP-LM       ...     Look  at  our  watch.  Okay? 

CDR-LM      .And  my  cuff  gage  went  up  to  5.  -  5.0.  Good. 

Suit  circuit's  at  k.6.  That's  okay.  And  I'm 
decaying. 

CDR-LM      Are  you  decaying? 

LMP-LM      I'm  decaying. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     We  can  start  our  watch. 


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05  IT  5U  50    CDR-LM      Okay.    My  watch  is  started  at  5:30,  more  or  less. 
LMP-LM      My  watch? 
CDR-LM      At  5:30. 

LMP-LM      Yes  sir.     Okay.     Good  laye . 
05  17  55  01     CDR-LM      Okay.     OVERHEAD  FORWARD  DUMP  valve,  OPEN. 
LMP-LM      Okay,  batiy! 
LMP-U4      It's  open  all  the  way. 
CDR-LM      Okay,  and  pressure's  coming  down. 
LMP-LM      Okay.     I  believe  it. 

CDR-LM      I  get  a  tone  and  an  HO  flag,  and  you  should  pop 
your  RELIEF,  I  think. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  I'm  at  my  relief  pressure  now. 

CDR-LM      What's  CABIH  now? 

LMP-LM      Cabin  is  one  -  a  little  1.2.  One. 
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Tape  92B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GRCOTD  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTIOK 


05  IT  55  59     CC  See  any  color  tones  on  that  crater  at  all,  Ron? 

CMP  Yes,  the  color  on  that  particular  -  the  color  cf 

that  is  the  same  color  as  you  see  in  Maraldi  and 
as  you  see  in  the  -  the  landing  site.     And  that  is 
what  I  -  what  I  consider  the  dark  -  tannish  - 
tannish-gray  type  of  material.     And  again,  the 
fresh  craters  around  t4araldi  still  look  kind  of 
bluish  to  me,  not  as  much  as  they  did  yesterday, 
but  they  still  look  kind  of  a  -  have  a  bluish  tint 
to  them  from  the  reflection  of  the  Sun .     In  other 
words,  they  are  fresh  craters  and  they  are  about 
the  size  of  -  one  of  them  is  about  the  size  of 
MOCR,  and  the  other  one  is  about  the  size  of  Sher- 
lock or  Camelot . 

CC  Okay.     You're  around  Maraldi  now  ...  -  - 

CMP  ...  same  way.     Yes,  I'm  still  on  Maraldi.  Yes. 

CC  Okay  -  - 

CMP  I  was  on  Maraldi,  and  -  - 

CC  How  about  comparing  the  floor  fill  of  Maraldi  to 

the  light  plains  in  Maraldi  E? 

CMP  The  floor  fill  in  Maraldi  is  definitely  a  darker 

color.     The  light  plains  in  Maraldi  E  are  the  - 
the  light -tan  material.     And  Maraldi  -  The  floor 
of  Maraldi  looks  just  like  the  landing  site. 

CC  How  about  the  color,  tone,  and  texture  of  Maraldi 

Gamma? 

05  IT  5T  1+1+     CMP  Okay,     feraldi  Gamma  looks  just  like  the  rest  of  all 

of  the  surrounding  hills  around  there.     I  think 
that's  just  a  -  some  of  the  -  what  do  you  call  it, 
the  Sculptured  Hills  type  of  material  that  has 
been  -  was  high  and  has  been  inimdated  by  mare 
flow  at  one  time  or  another.     It  had  -  mare  flows 
kind  of  come  up  around  it . 

CC  Okay.     How  about  the  domical  hills  inside  of 

Vitruvius  A,  as  compared  to  A^tken? 


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CMP  Okay.     I  just  missed  that  one.     We'll  have  to  pet 

that  one  on  the  way  hy. 

CC  Okay. 

05  IT  58  23    CMP  Next  time  I  guess.     Right  nov,  I'm  locking  at  the 

ridge  system  around  the  annulus  of  Serenitatis. 
And  the  dark  material  stops  before  you  get  up  to  - 
Oh,  what's  the  crater  that  sticks  into  the  side  of 
Serenitatis  and  sticks  out  heyond  the  eastern  edge 
of  Serenitatis?    Anyhow,  the  dark  material  stops 
hefore  you  get  to  there.     The  dark  material  only 
goes  up  to  -  let's  see  -  There's  a  definite  rille. 
There's  a  wrinkled  ridge  and  at  the  east  of  the 
wrinkled  ridge,  there  are  two  craters,  about 
20  kilometers  in  diameter.     And  then  farther  east 
of  that  is  the  -  the  rille.     A  graben,  it  looks 
like  that  goes  up  -  and  that's  about  the  extent  of 
the  dark  area  that's  the  same  as  the  -  the  same 
material  as  the  landing  site. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     That  -  that  completes  the  visuals  on 

this  pass.     We  -  if  you  want  to  look  some  more, 
we've  got  some  time.     We  do  have  some  Flight  Plan 
camera  pads  and  all  that ,  but  no  hurry  on  any  of 
it . 

CC  We  do  have  some  attitude  changes  -  - 

CMP  -  -  continue  looking  here  until  we  pass  -  oh,  do 

you  need  an  attitude  change  now? 

CC  No,  that's  not  until  U6.    We  got  some  time  on  that. 

It's  a  VERB  -  change  of  NOUN  T8. 

CMP  Okay.     Give  me  a  clue  about  a  minute  ahead  of  that. 

CC  Yes,  I'll  do  that,  Ron.     Just  keep  talking. 

05  l8  00  09    CMP  Okay.     We're  in  the  Tacquet  area  now,  and  in  this 

case,  the  wrinkled  ridge  system  that's  out  in  the 
middle  does  not  make  a  change  in  the  color  boundary. 
The  color  boundary  is  completely  out  to  the  outer 
edge  and  is  -  in  the  area  of  those  -  the  rille. 
Those  are  -  There's  kind  of  arcuate  rilles ,  straight 


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rilles,  and  in  the  Tacquet,  yesterday,  I  said  this 
was  Sulpicius  Gallus,  but  it's  Tacquet  -  Tacquet 
area,  hut  . . .  -  - 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Can  you  give  us  a  color  difference  on 

the  dark  mantle  and  the  mare  at  this  Sun  angle? 

05  18  01  07    CMP  Yes,  the  color  difference  -  again  the  -  You  know, 

I  just  -  I  just  now  noticed  that  when  I  get  down 
at  this  Sun  angle,  out  in  front  of  me,  I  got  one 
color,  and  then  I  look  straight  down  and  I  have  a 
different  color.     But  in  this  Tacquet  area,  you've 
definitely  got  some  cinder  cone  type  -  No,  I  don't 
want  to  say  cinder  cone,  "but  anyhow  -  volcanic. 
And  it  almost  looks  like  a  breached  cinder  cone 
right  next  to  -  I  think  it's  Melrose  [?]  -  is  the 
name  of  that  -  that  crater  -  the  hig  one  that's 
right  on  the  edge  of  Serenitatis.     I'll  find  it 
on  the  map  and  mark  it  for  sure.     But  just  to  the 
east  of  that,  it  sure  looks  like  a  breached  cinder 
cone  in  -  in  -  in  one  of  those  rilles  down  there. 
And  then  that  type  of  material  is  -  is  -  kind  of 
a  dark  tan  in  -  at  this  Sun  angle.     And  it's 
definitely  darker  than  the  -  than  the  Serenitatis 
Basin  material. 

CC  1  think  it's  Tacquet  is  the  name  of  that  crater. 

Isn't  it,  Ron? 

CMP  Tacquet  is  the  little  one,  and  then  -  then  there's 

a  bigger  one  right  next  to  Tacquet. 

CC  Okay.     Menelaus  is  just  to  the  east  of  Tacquet 

there . 

05  18  03  ok    CC  Hey,  Ron,  I  -  I  blew  that.     Menelaus  is  west  of 

Tacquet  up  there. 

CMP  Yes,  Menelaus;  that's  the  one. 

CC  Any  textural  difference  between  the  dark  marille 

in  the  site  and  the  Sulpicius  (lallus  formation, 
Ron? 

CMP  Yes,  there  is. 


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CC 


Would  you  attribute  it  to  the  actual  ground  or 
would  you  attribute  it  to  possibly  the  Sun  angle 
difference? 


CMP  I  think,  1  vould  attribute  it  really  to  the  -  to 

the  actual  groimd.     I  guess  what  I  am  going  to 
have  to  do  is  really  wait  until  the  Sun  angle  geti; 
a  little  bit  higher  there  in  that  Tacquet  region 
to  answer  that  for  sure.     But  it  seems  to  me  like 
the  -  the  material  in  the  landing  site  area  is  - 
is  more  smooth,  you  know,  or  smoother  than  what's 
in  the  Tacquet  region.     The  part  in  the  Tacquet 
region  seemed  to  me  like  it  was  -  is  -  It's  just  a 
rougher-looking- type  material.     You  know,  not  -  not 
massive.     Hey.     There's  D  -  D-Caldera .     Hey,  what 
do  you  know? 

05  18  05  06    CC  Do  you  have  -  do  have  any  dark  -  do  you  have  any 

dark  halo  craters  near  Sulpicius  Callus? 

CMP  Yes.     The  -  I'll  be  darned. 

CC  We're  -  we're  with  bated  breath,  waiting. 

CMP  ...  Picture  28  of  D-Caldera  with  the  Hasselblad. 

I  mean  with  the  Nikon  (laughter),  and  Sun  angle 
must  be  about  1  or  2  degrees. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy. 

CMP  You  know,  I  really  didn't  concentrate  too  much  on 

-  on  Sulpicius  Callus  at  that  -  that  particular 
passing,  I  was  concentrating  on  the  Tacquet  area, 
and  in  that  -  in  that  case,  all  of  the  -  the  rilles 
and  the  ridges  -  not  the  wrinkled  ridges  out  in 
the  middle  out  in  there,  but  the  rilles  and  the 
area  built  up  around  the  rilles  and  also  associated 
maybe  -  Oh,  I  was  going  to  say  10  times  the  will  - 
the  rilles  width  is  all  one  color. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We'd  like  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO,  and  we'd 

like  to  load  your  ROUN  78. 

05  18  06  hi     CMP  Okay.     HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO.     bet  me  see,  ^'P  NOllK  TO 

to  ENTER.     Okay.     Let's  see,  plus  5?. 25-  I'lus 
52.25.     Up-link.     VERB  58  ENTER. 


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...  PROCEED  to  . . .  gets  out  of  the  vay.  Okay. 
D-Caldera  was  taken  on  picture  number  28.  It 
was  f/8  at  1/500,  and  then  I  took  three  more 
hefore  that.    They're  terminator  photos,  looking 
north  across  Sulpicius  Gallus  and  farther  nortli. 
And  they  were  1/500  at  f/l6  to  start  with  and  tlien 
f/11. 


CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  That's  prohably  about  all  I'm  allowed,  I  think, 

on  this  XX  film. 

CC  What  was  your  last  frame  number  on  XX,  Ron? 

CMP  Yes,  that  was  -  I'm  on  number  29  now. 

CC  29.     Roger.     You're  on  29,  right  here. 

CMP  Say,  on  magazine  Oscar  Oscar,  did  we  get  enough 

of  our  required  photos  out  of  that ,  or  are  the 
rest  of  those  -  opportunity  or  not? 

CC  We'll  check  on  that  with  FAO,  Ron.     I  do  have  one 

Flight  Plan  update  for  you  on  the  pan  ceimera  photo 
pad.     But  you  first  ought  to  go  to  the  IMAGE 
MOTION,  INCREASE,  barber  pole  plus  four  steps,  to 
ON,  and  LASER  ALTIMETER,  ON. 

CViP  Right  now,  you  mean? 

CC  Yes,  it's  -  it's  time,  Ron.     It's  time  for  that. 

05  18  09  35     CMP  Okay.     IMAGE  MOTION  -  let's  see  -  I  think  that  was 

barber  pole  plus  three  before.     There  it  is ,     3  -  ^ 

05  18  09  56     CMP  LASER  ALTIMETER,  ON. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     That  pan  camera  -  - 

CMP  I  hope  to  jiiek  up  some  anawerr.  to  come  oV  iAiay.o 

things  on  a  couple  more  passes.     Okay.  That's 
right .     Go  ahead . 


CC  Okay.     Did  -  did  it  bother  you,  me  -  me  reading 

some  of  those  questions  to  you?     I  know  you'd 
probably  had  time  to  study  them,  but  I  thought  I'd 
jog  your  memory  on  them. 


Tape  92B/6 


CMP  Oh,  no.     That's  -  no,  that's  good,     I  appreciate 

it . 

CC  Okay.     I'll  get  a  conference  here  with  Farouk 

"before  we  start  the  next  pass  on  the  next-  rev 
around  and  see  if  we  can  improve  it.  Things 
worked  perfect  down  here.     We  -  I  had  the  questions 
in  front  of  me,  and  Farouk  flipped  them  into  the 
screen  and  it  really  worked  great . 

CC  Okay,  Ron  -  - 

CMP  Yes.     That's  good,  okay. 

05  18  10  CC  -  -  at  li+l:50,  I've  got  the  pan  camera  photo  pad. 

CMP  Okay.     Ready  to  copy. 

05  18  10  5^+    CC  Okay.     T-start  time,  11+1:5^:01;  T-stop  time, 

l'+2:l8:2l+. 

CMP  Okay.     T-start,  li+l:5l+:01;  T-stop,  lU2:l8:2l4. 

CC  Good  show,  Ron.     It's  -  your  bird  now  for  a  while. 

CMP  Okay . 

05  18  12  37     CC  Ron,  just  for  your  information,  we're  playing  back 

the  voice  playback  from  the  last  rev,  and  it'll 
be  recorded  in  house.     It  is  readable,  and  we  can 
read  it . 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Good.     I  purposely  tried  to  keep  one 

of  the  microphones  right  on  my  mouth  on  those 
things.     I  don't  know  if  that  helps  or  hinders^  It. 

CC  Roger,  Ron  -  - 

CMP  At  least  I  could  hear  myself  talk  that  way. 

CC  Roger.     It  worked.     We  can  read  it,  and  somebody 

can  listen  to  it  here  when  we  get  a  chance.  How 
about  on  this  back  side  of  this  next  rev?  Looks 
like  you're  pretty  busy  with  some  pads  and  -  and 
some  photo  work  in  there.     Do  you  expect  to  be 
doing  any  recording  -  much  recording  there? 


Tape  92B/T 


CMP  No,  protably  not.     I'll  just  try  to  -  try  to  make 

notes  of  it  or  something,  and  then  pass  it  on  out 
when  I  come  out  the  other  side. 

CC  Good  show,  Ron.     Good  show. 

05  18  ih  07     CC  And  your  -  your  grounded  friends  down  there  are 

"busy  working  around  the  LM  right  now  and  doing 

some  loading  the  Rover  and  that,  getting  ready 

for  the  EVA-2  work.     They're  out  on  the  surface 
and  loading  the  Rover. 

CMP  Very  good.     I'll  be  glad  to  -  curious  to  know  if 

they  can  make  it  up  that  hill  or  not  -  to  Scarp. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Looks  like  they  should  he  able  to  go  right  up  that 

valley,  the  way  they've  got  it  planned  there. 

CC  Gene's  got  to  take  some  time  here  on  this  EVA  and 

make  a  fender.    We're  -  we're  piecing  together  a 
couple  of  maps  and  trying  to  get  a  fender,  because 
they  lost  a  piece  of  the  fender  last  night. 

CMP  (Laughter)     They  did,  huh? 

CC  We're  going  to  give  Gene  his  auto  mechanic's 

license  if  it  works. 

05  18  Ih  57     CMP  How's  my  -  yes,  right.     How's  my  ZPW?     All  I  did 

was  move  it.     I  didn't  put  in  a  new  sensor  yet. 
Do  I  need  to  put  on  a  new  sensor? 

05  18  17  3h     CC  Ron,  the  ZPN  data  isn't  too  good.     It's  the  sensor 

sponges  need  to  be  replaced,  if  you  didn't  already 
replace  them. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Thought  I'd  get  by  without  replacement. 

Yes,  I'll  replace  them  pretty  quick. 

CC  Hey  -  you  know  -  your  choice.     We  can  -  we  can 

stand  the  crew  exercise  period  without  replacing 
them,  I'm  sure. 


Tape  92B/8 


CMP  Okay.     VOiile  I  was  eating  my  peanut  "butter  awhile 

ago,  I  lost  my  lobster  bisque  and  my  Juice.  And 
I  j  ust  now  found  it . 

05  18  19  08     CC  Okay,  Ron.     Here's  your  word  on  some  magazines  here. 

X-ray  X-ray  has  to  be  left  for  the  Zodiacal  light. 
You  -  you  should  not  take  any  more  on  X-ray  X-ray 
until  after  Zodiacal  light.     Mag  Oscar  Oscar  and 
Papa  Papa  are  yotirs  to  play  with,  as  long  as  you 
stay  with  the  Flight  Plan  on  the  rest  of  the  mags. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  those  are  your  crew  options  for  the  rest  of 

the  mission,  those  two  mags. 

CMP  Okay .     In  other  words ,  we  made  it  up  on  Oscar 

Oscar,  I  guess,  on  that  one  pass,  huh?    Rest  of 
them  are  -  are  crew  options . 

CC  Roger . 

05  18  25  38     CC  Hey,  Ron.     You  got  a  110  heart  rate.     What  are  you 

doing? 

CMP  (Laughter)     Shaking  the  couch. 

CC  (Laughter)     I  thought  we  could  hear  that.  That's 

pretty  good. 

CMP  Shaking  the  couch  (laughter). 

05  18  26  19    CC  Okay.     Keep  it  up,  there;  you  got  120  now.  Dr. 

Berry  would  like  to  keep  it  there  for  a  while. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I'm  getting  tired. 

CC  That's  the  whole  idea  of  the  thing,  Ron. 

CMP  ( Laught  er ) 

05  18  26  51    CC  Okay.     Got  you  130  that  time. 

CMP  Oh. 


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Hate  to  say  this,  because  it's  very  dead  serious 
work,  "but  I'm  kind  of  watching  a  lunar  comedy  as 
the  -  the  two  lunar  stalwarts  are  trying  to  plan 
the  new  fender  on  the  vehicle  down  there. 

(Laughter)     I'll  bet  that's  really  no  easy  job, 
you  know. 

That's  right.     They've  got  a  couple  of  their 
clamps  -  what  they  did  is  they  -  - 

. . .  kind  of  hard . 

They  took  a  couple  of  their  clamps,  and  they  took  - 
taped  together  in  the  cockpit  a  couple  of  their 
big  lunar  maps  -  the  big  heavy  maps  -  and  they're 
-  now  they're  clamping  that  map  to  the  fender  where 
the  removable  part  is. 

Oh,  I  see.     Must  be  pretty  dusty  down  there  or 
something. 

Yes.    Well,  they  lost  a  fender,  and  it  was  throwing 
dust  up  on  Gene.     It's  just  ridiculous  how  much 
dust  they  got  on  them,  so  they  -  they  just  decided 
they  just  had  to  go  ahead  and  do  something. 

Yes. 

I  would  hate  to  be  paying  for  that  fender  repair 
job  by  the  minute. 

(Laughter)     Boy,  that's  for  sure. 


Say  again,  Houston. 

Oh,  that  was  me  -  went  off  on  the  wrong  loop,  -  loop 
there,  Ron. 

Oh ,  okay .     ( Laught  er )     Okay . 

On  that  Crisium  Serenitatis  -  number  U  of  5  -  that 
-  dark  dome  just  to  the  northwest  of  J- 3  -  the  one 
I  was  talking  about  that  had  the  typical  cone-type 
shape  with  the  dome  down  in  the  side  of  it. 


Tape  92B/10 


CC  Roger.     We  had  it.     Farouk  had  a  pointer  on  it 

the  whole  time.     I  knew  just  what  you  were  talking 
at . 

CMP  Yes.     Okay.  Okay. 

05  18  ho  k5    CC  Just  talked  to  the  home  front  a  little  while  ago, 

and  everybody's  fine,  Ron.     And  they  were  able  to 
get  the  squawk  boxes  squared  away,  so  she  should 
have  been  listening  to  you  for  last  couple  of 
passes  -  all  on  the  ...      The  problem  was  it  wasn't 
able  to  shut  off  one  loop  or  the  other,  so  today 
■we've  been  -  they've  been  able  to  get  all  -  just 
the  CSM  loop  in  there  for  -  diu-ing  the  AOS  periods. 

CMP  Oh,  I  see.     Otherwise,  they  -  they  were  both  coming 

in,  huh? 

CC  Yes.     Last  night,  they  were  both  coming  in.  Today, 

they  got  it  squared  away,  so  you're  just  coming  in, 
and  they  are  able  to  watch  and  listen  to  the  other 
one  on  -  on  the  TV  cajnera. 

CMP  Yes.     TV,  yes. 

CC  And  they  say  they  are  looking  forward  to  good 

weather  tomorrow.     Supposed  to  finally  get  a 
break  in  this  stuff  tomorrow. 

05  18  Ul  38    CMP  Hey,  good.    We  can  say  that's  because  the  guys 

went  to  the  Moon,  see? 

CC  Roger.     Okay  (laughter). 

CMP  ...  get  the  good  break's  in  the  weather  (laughter). 

05  18  hi  56     CC  About  5  min  -  h  and  1/2  minutes  to  LOS  now,  Ron. 

We  went  around  the  room,  and  all  systems  look  good 
and  you're  just  looking  great. 

CMP  Okay.     Mighty  fine,  I'm  feeling  pretty  good. 

CC  That's  great.    We  noticed  your  heart  rate  went  up 

pretty  well  on  the  exercise.     Looks  like  you  got 
some  exercise,  and  we'll  be  seeing  you  at  1U2:12. 


CMP 


i+2:12.  Okay. 


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CC  And  we'll  be  all  set  up  with  our  backroom  for 

those  orb  science  visuals  from  Copernicus  on 
down  to  Reiner  Gamma;  and  you  know,    ...  too,  but 
we'll  be  up  for  all  -  everything  in  between.  So, 
just  standing  by  for  your  word. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  And  Stu's  mentioned  if  you  hadn't  earlier,  that 

you  might  try  the  binoculars  when  you  look  at 
Copernicus  for  that  dike  you  said  -  if  you  hadn't 
thought  of  it  before . 

CMP  Yes.     I'm  going  to  try  that  this  time. 

05  18  h2  5^    CC  Okay.     Good  show. 


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Tape  93A/1 

APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

05  17  55  50     CDR-LM      Well,  let's  see  if  I  can  partially  get  this  hatch 

open . 

LMP-LM      That's  0.7  still. 
CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      0.5.     0.3.     You  got  it  at  what  -  ahout  0.2 
yesterday? 

CDR-LM      Why  don't  you  move  over  as  far  to  the  right  as  you 
can  -  - 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  So  I  can  "bend  down. 

LMP-LM  Well,  I  think  that's   

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  That's  good.     I  can  reach  it. 

CDR-LM  No,  too  much  pressure  on  it  yet. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Ah out  0.3. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     There's  my  H^O  full  -  flag. 

CDR-LM  Flag. 

LMP-LM  Well,  in  that  case,  let  me  see  if  I  can't  get  the  - 
Oh ,  man .     No . 

CDR-LM  No . 

LMP-LM  It's  unlocked,  huh? 

CDR-LM  Yes,  I  unlocked  it  earlier. 

LMP-LM  0,2. 

CDR-LM  Hey,  it's  unlocked.     It's  on  again.     Here  it  comes. 


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LMP-LM      There  goes  all  the  junk  out  there  again.  Guess 
that's  ice. 

CDR-LM      Yes . 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Probably  cleaned  some  of  the  dust  out,  I  hope. 
LMP-LM      Yes,  there  goes  a  lot  of  junk. 

CDR-LM      Sure  wish  it  would  clean  the  dust  out.     But  it 
isn't.     It's  cleaning  everything  else  out. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  Geno.     We  turn  our  PLSS  vat  er  on . 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  If  we  can  get  to  it. 

LMP-LM  Feels  like  a  water  valve. 

05  17  58  09    CDR-LM  Okay.    Mine's  on. 

05  17  58  10    LMP-LM  LMP's  water's  on. 

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Open  - 

LMP-LM  We're  right  there. 

CDR-LM  What?    My  water  flag  is  clear. 

LMP-LM  That  just  means  you've  got  feedwater  pressure. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Open  hatch.     Rest  until  cooling  sufficient; 

verify  PGA  3-7  h.6.     Now  mine's  coming  through  k.b; 
let  me  stand  there  a  second.     CB  status  PREAMPS 
and  ECS. 

LMP-LM      Roger . 

CDR-LM      Water  SEP  component  light  OR? 
LMP-LM  Roger. 


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CDR-L.M  Okay. 

LMP-IM      I  mean  affirm.     Get  my  terminology  straight  here. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack.     I'm  going  to  start  doing  about  a 
90  here. 

LMP-LM      Okay .     Let  me  -  I  need  to  turn  around  as  soon  as  you 
do  so  I  can  help  you  get  under  that  - 

05  IT  59  2k    LMP-LM      That's  hatter. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  I  knocked  it  off.     Okay.     I'm  out  of  the  way 
now,  if  you,  can  move  your  left  leg.     Okay.     I  got 
an  0^  FLAG.     And  it's  cleared.     The  pressure  is  k .6 . 

Okay,  Houston.     If  you're  happy  -  CDR  is  going  to 
get  out . 

CC  Roger.     We're  happy,  Geno. 

CDR-LM      Okay .  ... 
05  18  GO  05     LMP-LM      Okay.     Hatch  is  full  open. 
CDR-LM      Okay . 

UIP-LM  And  you're  still  -  your  scraping  your  -  just  a 
little  hit.  Just  get  your  buttons  down  there. 
That's  good.  Okay.  Oh,  hey,  remind  me  to  fix 
your  - 

CDR-LM      Foot  straps . 

LMP-LM      Your  -  your  donning  straps . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     That  is  ice,  by  the  way.  Jack. 

05  18  00  3T    CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  I  tell  you,  with  a  stiff  suit  -  still  at 

i+ .  5  .     But ,  I  am  out  here  on  the  porch  . 

LMP-LM  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  man.     Okay,  I'm  out  here. 

LMP-LM  . ■ .   assisted  you. 

LMP-LM  Here  comes  the  jett  bag  whenever  you're  ready. 


) 


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CDR-EVA    Well,  let  me  get  -  Okay.     I'm  all  set.     Man,  I 
wish  this  suit  vould  come  down  to  3.8.     Here  it 
comes.    Okay,  any  time. 

CDR-EVA  Give  it  a  swat;  there  you  go. 

LMP-LM  Oh,  the  beauty  of  -  ... 

CDR-EVA  Okay;  let  me  look  at  something  here  (laughter). 

LMP-LM  What's  that? 

CDR-EVA  I  was  Just  turning  my  checklist  pages. 

LMP-LM  Oh.     Here  you  go. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Jett  bag.     I  need  -  What  you  got  next;  ETB? 

LMP-LM  ETB . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-LM  Can  you  reach  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.    Get  it  hooked  up  here. 

05  18  02  ih    L^-IP-LM  Okay.     Turn  the  tape  recorder  off. 

LMP-LM  Tape  recorder's  off. 

CDR-EVA  Big  . , .  that ' s  a  legacy  of  Gemini  9 . 

LMP-LM  Mags . 

LMP-LM  EVA  decals.    ETB  is  hanging. 

CDR-EVA  That  all  I  need? 

LMP-LM  I  think  so.     You  hit  your  comm  again. 

CDR-EVA  No,  I  didn't;  I'm  okay. 

LMP-LM  What  happened  to  the  static?     Did  we  lose  Houston? 

No.    We  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

LMP-LM      Hello,  Houston.    Oh,  you  must  have  switched  to  -  Oh, 
I  don't  know. 


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CDR-K'/A    Okay.     I'm  going  dovn  the  ladder. 

LMP-LM     All  of  a  sudden,  all  the  noise  is  gone;  that's 
very  good. 

CDR-EVA    God  speed  the  crew  of  Apollo  IT-     I  think  I'll 
read  that  every  time  I  come  down  the  ladder. 

05  18  03  32    IjMP-LM      Okay.     All  the  circuit  breakers  are  verified. 

Noise  is  "back.     Okay  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    My  visor's  coming  down;  utility  lights  eire 
off.     We're  not  going  to  use  the  camera? 

LMP-LM      Hey,  I  get  to  get  out. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Houston.     On  this  fine  Tuesday  evening,  as 
I  step  out  on  the  plains  of  Taurus-Littrow, 
Apollo  IT  is  ready  to  go  to  work. 

CC  Roger,  Geno.     Good  deal. 

CDR-EVA    And  the  first  thing  I'll  do  is  give  you  a  TGE .  Let 
me  turn  it  on.     And  you  want  a  reading.     Okay.  It's 
on.     Bob,  and  the  reading  is  222,  262,  207;  that's 
222,  262,  207- 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Looks  good  from  here,  Jack.    Keep  coming.     Come  on, 
hatch.     Oh,  what  a  nice  day.     (Laughter)  Funny, 
there's  not  a  cloud  in  the  sky.     Except  in  the 
Earth.    Take  it  nice  and  easy  today  and  get  ac- 
customed. Wheel 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

CDR-EVA    I'll  be  right  there.  Jack,  to  get  the  antenna,  as 
soon  as  I  turn  the  LCRU  on. 

05  18  05  16    LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  on  the  ladder.     Door  is  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  POWER  switch  is  INTERNAL.     I'm  in  MODE  3- 

LCRU  blankets  are  open  100  percent.  AGG  is  Uo  plus, 
and  power  is  about  1/8.     Sensors  are  about  1/6  or 

CC  Okay.     And  we  have  a  good  picture  there,  Geno. 

Thank  you. 


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CDR-EVA    Already,  iiuh? 
CC  Already. 

CDR-K'/A    Well,  let  me  just  tweak  you  up  a  little  bit.  Okay, 
I've  got  you  tweaked,  right  in  the  middle. 

CC  Thank  you.     And,  Gene,  after  you  set  hoth  those  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

-  -  battery  covers  -  up  front  there,  why  don't  you 
go  back  and  give  us  that  temperature  reading  and 
then  put  the  breeikers  in  and  then  give  us  another 
temperature  reading  on  the  batteries . 

CDR-EVA    Yes  sir,  I'll  do  that.     Jack,  here,  let's  get  the 
antennas . 

LMP-EVA    You  want  to  get  -  you  want  to  hang  on  the  Rover? 
CDR-EVA    I  guess  -  well,  okay. 
LMP-EVA    I  think  it's  easier. 

CDR-EVA    Now,  I'm  below,  so  get  mine,  now.     I'm  in  a  hole. 
05  18  07  00     LMP-EVA    Okay;  you're  up. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA     ...  get  down  there  yet.     Got  to  secure  the  flaps. 
Okay,  you're  all  right. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you're  up. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

05  18  07  hi    LMP-EVA    Okay,  POWER  switch  is  going  to  STANDBY.    And  the 

temperature  is  80.    And  I'll  close  the  blankets. 

CC  Copy  80  on  the  SEP. 

LMP-EVA    That's  affirm.     You  know  what  happened?    The  Velcro 
came  unbonded.     That's  why  those  don't  hold  down. 
We  probably  ought  to  get  a  piece  of  tape  on  those. 
Because  they've  got  to  set  and  it's  going  to  get 


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dusty.    The  blankets  -  there's  no  Velcro  left  to 
hold  the  SEP  blankets  down,  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Do  you  have  a  reading  on  the  gravimeter? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  took  a  reading,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CC  It's  measuring  right  now.  Jack,  we'll  get  it  later. 

CDR-EVA  All  right. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I  hope  I  didn't  hit  it  with  some  dust. 

CDR-EVA  Hey,  it  is  not  regis  -  measuring.  Bob  -  - 

CC  That's  right.     Sorry  about  that. 

CDR-EVA  -  -  All  I  did  was  take  a  reading.     I  turned  it  on 
and  took  a  reading. 

CC  Yes,  you're  right,  you're  right,  and  I'm  wrong. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  Bob. 

CDR-EVA  The  battery  temperatures  are  0  and  0. 

CC  Copy  that.  Okay. 

LMI'-EVA  Bob,  there's  your  pendulum  [?]. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  It's  not  a  very  good  one.     I'll  work  on  that. 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  going  to  be  there  for  a  minute,  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Just  putting  these  batteries  in.     I'm  done  on  this. 
Oh,  you'll  be  glad  to  hear  this.     We  got  TO  on 
battery  1  and  about  92  on  battery  2. 


CC 


Beautiful.     Beautiful.     70  and  92.     I  copy. 


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LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

05  18  10  kQ  LMP-EVA 
Lf-IP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
05  18  12  05  CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Yes  sir. 

Let  me  just  verify  this  Jack,  and  I'll  be 

all  done . 

Okay.     You've  got  it. 
I 'm  all  done . 

Okay.     Okay,  here's  your  old  fender. 
Now  work  on  that . 
Shortly . 

Well,  I  think  I'm  going  to  INTERMEDIATE  cooling  to 
start  with  here . 

Okay.     I  think  I  will,  too.     Good  idea. 

One  zap  of  cold  to  see  if  it's  working.  It's 
working,  and  hack  to  INTERMEDIATE. 

Okay.     ...  go  to  mags. 

Okay ;  mag . 

I'll  have  the  same  problem  with  this  SRC,  I'll 
bet. 

Mag  Romeo  is  going  to  go  on  the  -  the  old  500  in 
a  minute.  Mag  India  is  in  there.  Mag  Kilo,  Mag 
Juliet,  Mag  Bravo,  Mag  Delta. 

Okay,  Bob,  the  SRC  organic  sample  has  been  sealed. 
And  the  SRC  lid  is  staying  almost  closed,  about 
2  or  3  inches  open;  if  that's  fine,  I'd  like  to 
leave  that . 

Okay.     Go  ahead  and  leave  it,  Gene.     If  it's  not 
we'll  get  back  with  you  on  it. 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  hit  your  gravimeter  here. 

Polarizing  filter  -  - 

Torque  it  -  - 

-  -  . . .  light  clamps . 


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CDR-EVA    -  -  and  the  light  is  flashing. 
C  Copy  that. 


n 


CDR-E\'A     . .  . 

CC  Okay.     And,  Jack,  you're  getting  ready  to  take  care 

of  the  charge;  remember  EF-k  goes  within  the  Rover 
seat,  and  EP-5  we're  going  to  put  on  one  of  the 
footpads  in  the  Sun.     Probably  either  the  minuz-Z 
or  the  minus-Y  footpad,  whichever  is  more  con- 
venient, probably  the  minus-Z  is.     Just  as  long  as 
it  is  sitting  in  the  Sun  is  the  Important  thing  on 
the  footpad. 

LMP -EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  oh  boy.     Going  to  be  a  -  Why  won't  that  come 

out?    Yes,  Bob,  I'm  having  a  little  trouble  getting 
the  LCRU  battery  out.     I'll  have  to  -  I'll  have  to 
go  back  and  use  two  hands. 

CC  Okay.    That  sounds  like  a  familiar  problem. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you  got  any  familiar  answers? 

CC  Someone  who's  been  there  before  says  you  just  got 

to  work  it  back  and  forth  until  it  comes  loose. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  can  get  that.  Jack.     I've  got  to  -  - 

LMP-EVA     . . .  hang  it  up? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I've  got  to  work  here  anyway. 

05  18  15  i+8    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  it's  on  the  minus-Z  and  the  -  One  corner 

is  facing  directly  into  the  Sun. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    That  was  -  that's  EP-5 . 

CC  Roger  that.     And  I  copy  number  k  was  put  -  was 

put  between  the  seat. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it's  -  a  -  yes,  it's  between  the  seat,  or  will 
be  very  soon. 


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CDR-EVA    Boy,  this  is  ridiculous.  Ridiculous. 

LMP-EVA    Whoops,  I  need  that  other  track. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  nothing  worth  getting  upset  ahout  it, 

but  it  sure  makes  you  start  out  -  But,  you  shouldn't 
have  to  this  way. 

LMP-EVA  Come  on.  Just  don't  wear  your  hands  out  now. 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

CC  Hey,  Geno  -  Geno   

LMP-EVA  Need  a  little  help? 

CDR-EVA  No,  I  think  I  can  do  it,  just  got  to  wiggle   

CC  -  -  Jiggle  it  gently  and  sort  of  let  it  come  free 

there.     It's  a  matter  of  it  wedging  itself  in,  of 
course,  on  the  parallel  rail. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  -  I  see  what's  happening.  Bob.  Still 
ridiculous . 

CC  Okay  

05  18  IT  37    LMP-EVA    Bob,  did  you  hear  my  comment  about  the  -  about  the 

SEP  receiver? 

CC  Roger.     That  the  blankets  won't  stay  closed.  We're 

talking  about  that  down  here. 

CDR-EVA    Boy;  a  bag  of  peanuts.    Whew.     Man  in  space.  With- 
out them  we ' d  be  lost . 

LMP-EVA    Without  them  we  wouldn't  have  the  LCRU  and  the 
MESA  probably, 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)     Manischewitz .     Okay.     Let  me  see  what 
I  can  do  for  you  while  I'm  here.     Okay.  LCRU 
battery  under  seat,  dustbrush  to  LCRU.  Okay. 
I'll  go  get  that;  then  I'll  get  to  work. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  what's  my  shadow  length  right  now? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  ask.     We'll  get  it  for  you 

momentarily. 


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CC 


Okay,  Jack.     We've  got  ^.5  meters  or  I5  feet. 


LMP-EVA    ^.5  meters,  huh?     I5  feet?     Is  that  how  long  I  am 
on  the  ground?     No  wonder  I've  misjudged  distance. 
Zap!     Hello  there,  Houston. 

CC  Hello  there.     Okay,  Jack,    And  do  we  have  the  new 

charge  transporter  on  the  pallet? 

LMP-EVA    I'll  say  yes,  hut  you  could  have  looked  for 
yourself. 

CC  Well,  we  just  looked  away. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  here.     It's  here.  Boh. 

CC  Copy  that.     I  won't  ask  if  we  got  the  LCRU  battery. 

That  one,  I  did  see. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we  got  it.     You  don't  think  I'd  leave  it 
here.     Okay,  7. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  this  gate's  working  like  a  charm. 

LW-EYA    Okay.     Transfer  from  5  to  7.  Okay? 

CC  Okay  and  -  - 

05  18  21  22    LMP-EVA    Okay.     The  pan's  complete. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    And,  Bob,  those  pans  around  here  have  more  pictures 
because  I'm  having  to  be  sure  I  get  the  massifs  - 
I'm  having  to  take  extra  pictures. 

^'^  O^ay.    Copy  that.    And  I  guess  we'd  suggest  that, 

if  you  haven't  talked  about  it  already,  that  you 
work  on  the  fender  before  you  do  the  geo  prep. 
You  don't  have  your  cameras  and  bags  to  worry  about 
at  that  point . 


CDR-EVA  Okay.  Would  that  be  a  good  time  for  Jack  to  go  t 
the  ALSEP,  do  you  think?  Or  do  you  think  we  both 
have  to  do  this  fender? 

CC  Ko.     The  ALSEP  work  -  we're  not  going  to  do  until 

the  end  of  the  EVA. 


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CDR-EVA    I  heard  John's  vords  . 
CC 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And,  Jack,  if  Gene's  working  there  on  unstowing  SCB, 

whatever  it  is ,  5  -  yes ,  5 ,    Maybe  when  you  put  the 
camera  down,  you  might  want  to  shoot  off  a  few 
500-niillimeter  frames  of  the  North  and  South  Massifs, 
if  they  look  interesting.     I  -  I  can't  tell  from 
the  TV.     That  might  be  an  opportune  time  to  grab 
a  couple . 

LMP-EVA    If  they  look  interesting!     If  they  look  interesting! 
Now  what  kind  of  thing  is  that  to  say? 

CC  Then,  when  Gene  gets  done  configuring  that  SCB-5  , 

we'd  like  to  get  on  with  the  fender  fix.  Then, 
we'll  do  the  geo  prep  after  that. 

05  18  22  55    CDR  We'll  get  on  with  it.  Bob. 

CDR-EVA    }fy  gosh,  we  got  a  lot  of  loose  stuff  in  SCB-?. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I  got  three  core  tubes  -  well,  wait  a 
minute  -  only  got  one  core  cap  dispenser.     Let  me 
get  the  other  one.    Okay.     Well,  it's  all  on  wide. 
Okay;  three  core  tubes,  two  20-bag  dispensers,  one 
ca  -  that's  one  core  cap  dispenser,  and  a  short  can. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  Jack   

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Are  you  ready  to  work?     See  this  right  here? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  I'm  going  to  put  that  right  -  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 


LMP-EVA    Are  you  ready  to  work? 


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CDR-EVA    Just  let  me  turn  my  page  here .     ...     Stand  by . 

Okay;  I  already  got  one  on  the  gate.     That  didn't 
c  ount . 

05  18  2k  52    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Want  a  couple  20-bag  dispensers? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  -  Okay,  -  waiting  for  you  to  - 
CDR-EVA    Well,  let's  get  this  done. 
LMP-EVA    You  want  to  - 
CDR-EVA  Here. 

LMP-EVA    Well ,  what  are  you  doing  now? 

CDR-EVA    I  was  just  getting  this  gear  out  now  ...  to  work  on 
the  fender. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    I'm  not  to  geo  prep  yet. 

LI^P-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Here  you  are. 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    We'll  just  set  these  here. 

LMl'-EVA    And  there's  another  one. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  SCB-T  goes  under  your  seat. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'll  get  that.     The  camera  has  the  -  bags  on 
it.     You  might  -  just  put  it  there,  and  I'll  come 
over  and  get  those  maps  and  eveiything. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     That  goes  under  your  seat.     Let  me  get  k  - 
Okay,  we  got  h  and  6.     I'm  going  to  start  on  a  - 
We  got  SCB-H,  goes  to  you,  and  SCB-6  goes  on  the 
gate  yet  Jack,  but  let's  pick  that  up  with  geo 
prep,  and  let  me  get  that  fender  gear-.     Where's  the  - 

LMP-EVA  It's  in  your  seat  pan. 
CDR-EVA    In  my  seat  pan?  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    I  should  have  put  it  over  here.     That  was  just 
where  It  ended  up . 

CDR-EVA    You  already  used  the  500? 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  didn't  get  a  chance  to. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     You  might  do  it  while  I  try  the  fender,  and 
then  you're  here  to  help  me  in  case  I  need  it. 

LMP-EVA    No,  it's  all  -  all  your  stuff's  right  there.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  okay.     I  see  it.     Well,  let's  hope  it  does  the 
jOD. 

05  18  27  19     LMP-EVA    Okay,  SCB-T's  in  my  seat.     And  I  put  the  return- 

to-LM  map  in  there,  too;  it's  just  going  to  be  in 
the  way  anywhere  else . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  check  something,  though.     On  the  way  to  - 
the  Hole-in-the-Wall ,  we  want  to  drive  . . . 

CC  ...  notch, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Hope  this  thing  gets  stiff.     It's  just  a 
flapper.     Sure  isn't  stiff  like  I  want  it  to  be. 

LMP-EVA    You  want  me  to  hold  it  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  you're  going  to  have  to,  I  reckon.     But,  that 
may  do  the  job.     Let's  see,  does  it  come  over  the  - 
I  wajit  it  about  right  above  the  axle  -  let  me  - 
move  yoirr  hand  a  minute.     Let  me  align  it.  Okay. 
Hold  it  right  there.     Let  me  get  the  - 

LMF-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  move  it  up  just  a  little  bit.     Right  there. 

Okay.     Hold  it  right  there.     Let  me  see  how  much 
room  I've  got  coining  out.     I  want  to  turn  this 
around.     We  can  tape  that  other  end.  Jack.  There 
you  go. 


05  18  28  k2  LMP-EVA 


It's  tending  to  fold  a  little  bit  - 


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CDR-EVA    I  think  -  Yes  ,  but  the  dust  will  be  coining  up  from 
under  us.     Let's  see. 

LMP-EVA    Temperature;  I  think  is  making  it  fold. 

CDR-EVA  How,  that'll  give  us  plenty  of  room  down  there, 
that  -  Yes,  I  just  don't  want  to  interfere  with 
the  steering. 

LMP-EVA    You  think  -  you  think  that'll  stop  the  dust  that 
way? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it'll  stop  some  of  it  if  it  stays  on. 

IjMP-EVA    Well,  what  I  mean,  it's  not  projecting  outward  at 
all.     It's  curling  back  under. 

CDR-EVA    Well ,  when  I  -  when  I  put  a  clamp  here ,  and  a  clamp 
here,  see  what  will  happen. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay. 

LMP-EVA    Is  that  about  how  -  where  you  want  it? 

LI^IP-EVA    Lean  against  me,  if  you  need  to. 

CDR-EVA    Trying  to  figure  out  -  No,  I've  got  to  clamp  it 
right  in  that  rail;  it's  not  much  to  clamp  it  on 
the  inside. 

LMP-EVA    No.     Keep  the  knob  up.     There,  you  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Hold  it  right  there.    We  got  it  all  folded  up  on 
this  side? 

LMP-EVA  Why  don't  you  try  the  outside. 

CDR-EVA  Let  it  go  a  minute.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Why  don't  you  try  the  outside,  first? 

CC  Fix  it  inside  first;  probably  be  better,  guys. 

LMP-EVA  Got  enough  overlap  there. 

CDR-EVA  No,  I  want  a  little  more. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 


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CDR-EVA    And,  I  am  going  to  try  this  side  "because  I  can  get 
my  overlap  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Now,  hold  it  right  there  while  I  clamp  it 
down , 

CDR-EVA    No,  that  paper  isn't  going  to  come  off,  and  the 
clamp's  not  going  to  come  off,  I'll  say  that.  1 
don't  know  how  much  we're  going  to  get  out  of  the 
fender  but  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  that's  ~  fixed? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  fix  that  at  all? 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That  ought  to  give  us  a  little  strengthening, 
stiffening. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LI-IP-EVA     .  .  .  tight? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Tighter  for  the  road.     I  don't  want  to  lose 
that.     Man,  that's  tight.     Now,  let's  see  if  I  can 
get  this  one.     Jack,  why  don't  you  come  on  this 
side  and  hold  the  fender  down  right  there.  Hold 
it  right  about  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     You  want  to  get  it  outboard  a  little  more  - 
I  mean  aft? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I  want  to  keep  it  ahove  this  -  this  center  - 
The  -  the  hub  here. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    For  steering  purposes.     See  this   

LMP-EVA    Is  that  -  is  that  fixed  for  the  -  well  - 

CDR-EVA    I'll  take  a  look  at  it .     I'm  going  to  tighten  it 

down  so  it  stays,  then  I'm  going  to  take  a  look  at 
it.     I  miglit  turn  this  thing  down  too. 


Tape  93A/17 

LMP-EVA    Yes,     I  was  just  going  to  suggest  that. 

05  18  32  15     CDR-EVA    Let  me  take  a  look  before  I  get  it  too  tight.  Well, 

I'll  tell  you,  that's  going  to  help  some. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     It  may  do  the  trick. 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  see  what's  imder  this  rail  too  well,  hut 
I  know  that  clamp  is  on.     It's  on  tight. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  it  looks  - 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  move  this  - 

LMP-EVA    Move  your  left  hand  a  little.     Okay.     Tighten  that 
now. 

CDR-EVA    Get  this  out  of  the  way. 
LMP-EVA    Looks  as  if  - 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  loosen  it,  and  get  it  a  little  straighter. 
LivIF-EVA    Yes,  I  think  you  need  to  straighten  it. 
CDR-EVA    Well,  I  had  it  tight. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  you  know  you've  got  another  piece  in 
there  so  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes,  that's  why  it's  crooked,  it's  over  those 
pieces , 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Well,  you  might  want  to  move  it  -  if  you 
could  move  it  this  way  about  a  -  an  inch,  you'd 
be  past  the  ridge  you  got. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  just  taking  John's  word  on  the  steering. 
I  -  I  

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  -  -  keeping  above  the  hub  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay;  tighten  her  down  then. 

LMP-EVA  I  think  that'll  stay. 

CDR-EVA  I  think  it'll  stay. 


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LMP-EVA    Why  don't  I  turn  this  one  -  - 

CDR-EYA    Okay.     You  won't  get  that  any  tighter. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  mean,  why  don't  I  turn  that  down  because  it'll 
keep  -  that  much  less  to  run  into.     There  you  go. 

CDR-EVA    No,  not  too  close  to  that  wheel. 

LIvIP-EVA    Okay?     I  think  that's  good. 

CDR-EVA    Too  bad  we  don't  have  one  more  clamp  -  well,  one 
more  clamp  would  probably  interfere  with  the 
steering. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  that'll  stop  the  rooster  tail,  because 
that '  s  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  think  that'll  stop  a  lot  of  it,  Houston. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  that's  swinging  forward.     Okay.     Let's  go. 

CC  Okay.     It's  -  - 

05  18  33  59    CDR-EVA    The  maps  are  confi^red. 

'^C   That  sounds  like  a  good  attempt,  men.  We'll 

hope  it  works . 

CDR-EVA    Does  that  look  -  does  that  look  good  to  John,  from 
what  he  did. 

CC  It  looks  exactly  what  his  did,  he  says. 

LMP-EVA    That  tape  will  keep  it  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  he  didn't  run  in  the  dust,  so  I  guess  we'll 
have  to  give  it  a  trial  run. 

CC  Roger  on  that, 

CDR-EVA    That  ought  to  help  some   

CC  We're  anxiously  waiting. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Jack.  Let's  -  I'm  going  to  HIGH  for  a  little 
bit.  Okay.  I  need  S  -  S  -  oh ,  shoot.  Now,  I  want 
h . 


Tape  93A/19 


LMP-EVA    I  took  8  off. 


CDR-EVA    No,  sir.     I  want  k  and  6.     Why  don't  you  just 
substitute  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  I  just  took  8  off.     Can  we  use  8  instead  of  6? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  can. 

CC  Yes,  I  don't  see  there's  any  reason  why  you  shouldn't 

he  able  to  use  that.  Jack.     Go  ahead.     We'll  just 
mark  it  down. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Turn  around.  Jack.     Hey,  Bob,  we'll  use  8 
instead  of  h. 

CC  Okay.     Understand  8  will  be  on  the  -  - 

CDR-EVA  8  instead  of  h. 

CC  -  -  8  will  be  on  the  LMP. 

CDR-EVA  That's  affirm;  8  will  be  on  the  LMP. 

CC  Geno,  you  went  to  MIN  instead  of  MAX. 

CDR-EVA  I  think  you're  right.     I  just  realized  that. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  let  me  go  to  MAX  here  for  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  We  need  6  off  of  there.  Jack. 

LfJiF-EVA  Oh,  your  5  stays  back  here,  huh? 

CDR-EVA  We  need  -  we  need  -  we  need  6  to  the  gate. 

LMP-EVA  It's  probably  behind  1+ ,  isn't  it. 

CDR-EVA  Well  -  - 

CC  Well,  put  k  on  the  gate  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Probably . 


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CC 


-  -  then  put  5  on  the  commander. 


CDR-EVA    Yes.     Okay;  h  is  going  on  the  gate  and  5  on  the 
commander. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  a  little  paperwork  for  you,  but  that's 
all  right ,     Okay . 

05  18  36  00    CDR-EVA    Nov,  I  got  to  do  some  more  stowing  on  you  when  you 

get  that  on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    They're  in  the  - 

LMP-EVA  Where  do  you  want  me? 

CDR-EVA  Your  left  side. 

LtvIP-EVA  Anywhere  -  Which  way  are  you  going  to  turn? 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  man,  does  that  -  that  Velcro  get  tough. 

LMP-EVA  Here  you've  got  a  core  cap  dispenser. 

CDR-EVA    Stand  by;  let  me  fix  these  for  you  while  I'm  here. 

Okay.  Here's  your  doffing  harness  on  this  side. 
Don't  move  yet,  I've  got  to  -  I've  got  something 
I've  got  to  do  to  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  okay.     Turn  around,  I'll  get  your  harness 
on  the  other  side. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  yours  too. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  there  you  go.     Okay,  you've  got  a  cap 
dispenser,  you've  got  a  rammer,  and  you've  got  - 
well,  I  guess  SCB-8,  if  I'm  not  mistaken. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  all  right,  they  got  it.     Okay.     That';-.  1 

CDR-EVA    Okay,     You  can  give  me  SCB-5  then,  and  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Can  you  move  -  move  a  little  bit?     There  you 
go.     Okay.     There  you  are. 


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CDR-EVA    You  got  it? 

LMP-EVA    No  -  no,  I'm  sorry.     In  fact,  I've  got  to  tighten 
up  your  - 

CDR-EVA    We've  got  to  take  a  picture  of  that  fender  if  it 
works . 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute  -Ho,  if  you  weren't  so  tall  -  and 
you  -  you  are  always  saying  -  you  just  invariably 
stand  so  I  have  to  get  in  a  hole.     Okay.     Now  let 
me  tighten  up  your  whole  shooting  match  here.  It's 
loose  again.     Hang  on.     Okay.     Between  Velcro  and 
snaps,  the  world  could  never  fall  apart. 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  all  set? 
05  18  39  00    LMP-EVA    You're  set. 


CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  get  a  hainmer,  and  then  I'll  get 
the  TGE. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  get  my  camera,  and  I'll  go  to  the  SEP 
site. 

CC             Okay.    Why  don't  you  start  to  the  SEP  site  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  when  you  start  running   

-  -  also,  I  presume  that  the  dusttirush  is  on 

the  Rover  now. 

CDR-EVA    It  is. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    It  is.    Jack,  when  I  drive  out  there  why  don't  you 
watch  the  rear  wheel. 

LMP-EVA    I  will.     Give  me  a  yell  when  you  start  to  drive. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Both  the  steering  and  the  rooster  tail  - 
Oh,  I  hope  it's  not  all  zeros.  Okay,  Bob.  6tO 
017,  701;  670,  017,  701. 


CC 


Okay.     Copy  that 


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05  18  39  53    CDR-EVA    Okay;  and  the  SCB  is  good.     It's  closed.     It's  in 

the  shade.     The  rest  ...  I  guess. 

CC  Okay.     And,  Jack,  when  you  get  out  to  the  SEP  site, 

ycu  might  give  us  a  reading  on  what  the  solar  panels 
look  like  -  how  they  survived  the  night  with  the 
tape  on  them. 

LMP-E^A    I  wouldn't  think  of  not  doing  that.     I'm  curious 
myself. 

05  18  UO  32    CDR-EVA    Okay.    The  TGE  is  on  the  LRV. 
CC  Okay.     Copy  that . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,     I'm  maicing  an  inventory.     I've  got  the  LCRU 
hattery.     Okay.     We  got  1,  3  and  2  and  8;  LCRU 
"blankets  are  open  100  percent.     Battery  covers  are 
CLOSED.     Dustbrush  is  on  the  LCRU.     TGE  is  on 
the  Rover.     Jack,  can  you  verify  we  got  the  right 
mags  and  a  polar  filter?  Polarization. 

LMP-EVA    Yes  sir.     I  verified  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Very  good. 

LMP-EVA    You  hetter  put  that  500  back  under  the  seat . 
CDR-EVA    Yes.     That's  where  it's  going. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  Bob,  it  looks  like  -  it  survived.     There  is 
a  -  as  I  stand  behind  the  panels  -  the  left-hand 
panel  may  be  tilted  at  about  -  well,  less  than 
5  degrees  ,  probably  about  2  or  3 ,  but  that ' s  all . 
Looks  pretty  good  right  now. 

CC  Okay;  beautiful.     Thank  you.     Good  fix. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  take  the  TV  from  you. 

CC  Okay .     Copy  that ,  Geno . 

05  l8  1+1  36    mP-EVA  And  the  transmitter's  going  on. 

CC  Copy  that ,  Jack . 


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LMP-EVA     (Laughter)     If  I  can  do  it  without  destroying  it, 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     That's  hard  to  do  out  there.  Jack.  Okay. 
TV  camera  going  POSITION  1. 

LMP-EVA    Transmitter's  on  and  -  ...  fix  the  level  there. 

Okay.     The  level  is  on  the  inner  ring  again.     And  - 
well,  the  gnomon  has  moved  a  little  bit,  hut 
not  much.     But  you  would  expect  that,  I  guess. 

CC  Yes .     Seeing  the  other  end  of  the  gnomon  up  there 

In  the  sky  it's  moved  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA     Yes.     That's  what  I  said. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Camera,  tongs,  and  I'll  drive.     West  leg, 
heading  270. 

LMP-EVA    Camera  is  on.     Bob,  I 'm  on  -  I  guess  26. 
CC  Okay.  Copy   

Lt4P-EVA    This  here's  frame  27,  mag  Charlie. 
CC  Copy  that.     Charlie  26  -  27. 

K4P-EVA    I  had  to  relearn  how  to  document  samples,  Bob.  I 
just  have.     The  first  part  of  my  roll  will  have 
a  lot  of  random  exposures  and  focuses. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     We're  back  in  business.     And  I'm  -  while  I'm 
waiting  for  Gene,  getting  a  rock  -  it  looks  a  little 
finer  grained  than  the  others  we've  seen  in  the  LRV 
sampler,  along  with  some  soil.     And  that's  done. 
Hey,  that's  a  neat  sampler.     Only  way  to   fly.  Okav, 
and  that's  in  hag  22E.     It  has  the  stereo  documen- 
tation and  a  locator  to  the  LM,  and  it's  about 
2  meters  from  the  S  -  from  the  SEP. 


CC  Okay,  Jack, 

05  18  kk  02    LMP-EVA    22  Echo. 


Roger.     Copy  that.     Did  you  ever  find  any  sign  of 
that  brown  fine-grained  rock  you  saw  on  the  way 
out  to  the  SEP  yesterday? 


Tape  93A/21+ 


CDR-EVA    Bot,  let  me  give  you  some  readings,  so  I  can  get 
going. 

CC  Okay.     Go  ahead,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Amp  hours,  108,  100;  volts  are  68,  68; 

batteries  are  80  and  102;  and  motors  are  all  off 
scale  low.     I'm  on  the  way.     On  the  way,  Jack. 

LI'4P-EVA    I'm  waiting. 

CDR-EVA    Oh ,  there  you  are  over  there ,  huh? 

CC  And,  Jack,  how's  the  rooster  tail  look  on  that 

fender? 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  it's  going  hackwards.     I  don't  see  any 
coming  up  over  the  top.     Looks  like  a  good  fix. 

CC  Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  I  got  to  come  around  -  I'm  going  to  come 
on  this  side  and  head  west. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Watch  for  -  You  got  the  antennas? 

CDR-EVA  I've  got  one  over  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I'll  -  give  you  a  line  on  the  other  one. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'm  getting  close. 

LMP-EVA  Okay .     Turn . 

CDR-EVA  Where  is  it? 

LI-IP-EVA  Right  here.     I'm  on  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Okay.    And  I  see  the  other  one  -  let  me 
parallel  that  line. 


CC 


Low  gain,  Gene,  please;  after  you  get  stopped. 


CDR-EVA    I  guess  that's  about  2  or  3  meters,  huh.  Jack? 
You  can  better  see  where  it  -  is  at. 


LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA' 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

05  18  hj  05  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 


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Yes,  that's  good,  Geno. 
Okay.    Heading  2T0. 
You  want  to  -  - 

Am  I  10  meters  from  the  transmitter? 

Prohably  not,  huh?     You're  pretty  -  no,  you  need 
to  go  about  5  meters. 

How  far  am  I?     See  if  it's  okay. 

You're  about  3  meters  -  h  meters. 

Hey,  Bob,  I 'm  3  meters  to  the  west  of  the  trans- 
mitter and  about  2-1/2  meters  south  of  the  line 
going  west  -  - 

There's  no  problem  there,  Gene. 

-  -  Is  that  okay? 

Don't  move.     It's  just  they  had  to  be  less  than 
those  nmnbers. 

Okay.     That's  where  I  am. 

I'm  getting  your  photos. 

Okay;  and  let  me  give  them  a  voltage  reading, 
and  I'm  still  reading  68  and  68. 

Okay;  copy  that.     We  don't  need  those,  ve  Just 
got  them.     And  -  - 

I  know,  I  just  wanted  to  keep  you  on  it. 

-  -  give  me  the  nav  numbers.     And  give  us  some 
nav  numbers . 

Okay,     265,  0.2,  and  O.I. 

The  -  that  heading  -  we  want  heading,  pitch,  roll, 
and  sun  dial  there.  Gene. 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  sorry.  Bob.     Okay;  you  want  a  nav  update 
here? 

CO  Kav  initialized,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  you  do. 
CC  Roger. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  I'm  sorry. 
CC  Go  to  the  next  page. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  -  let  me  change  my  position  here,  just  a 
siikosh.     Let  me  change  my  position  a  sukosh . 

CDR-EVA    I  knew  you'd  -  Boh,  what  was  that  last  LRV  sample 
numher  I  gave  you? 

CC  22  Echo,  22  Echo. 

05  18  1+8  2h    LMP-EVA    23  Echo,  if  that  followed  in  sequence,  is  another 

rock  about  -  near  the  SEP  documented  in  the  same 
way . 

Okay;  copy  that. 

Okay,  Bob.     265  -  265 ,  0 . 3 ,  0 . 1 ;  roll  is  1  right, 
pitch  is  0,  and  the  sun  shaft  device  is  0.  I'm 
heading  28l  degrees. 

Okay;  copy  that.     Stand  by. 

Okay.     The  recorder  is  OK  -  - 


CC  Copy  that . 

LI4P-EVA  -  -  and  the  RECEIVE  POWER  switch  is  on. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  And,  I  guess  you're  going  to  hand  me  EP-i+ .  Get 


rid  of  this . 


CDR-EVA 

CC 

05  18  U8  56  LI'4P-EVA 


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CC  Okay.     282  is  the  preferred  l3ut  that's  too  small  to 

bother  torquing.  Gene;  you're  good  as  is.  We're 
ready  for  you  guys  to  go. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     That  looks  good  because  I  have  to  come  left 
Just  a  sukosh  there  to  proceed  parallel  down  the 
west  line. 

CC  Okay.     We're  ready  for  you  guys  to  go.     We  presume 

you  have  the  SEP  photos.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  do. 

Okay.    And  get  your  frame  -  we  don't  need  -  you 
can  give  us  a  frame  count  if  you  want.  Remember 
to  pick  up  EP-1|  when  you  get  in  the  Rover. 

Okay.     We  got  it,  and  the  frame  count  is  IT. 

Copy  IT  for  the  LMP,  and  we  need  a  nav  reset  to 
verify  there.  Gene. 

I  did  nav  reset;  I'm  reading  all  balls. 

Okay.     And  did  you  happen  to  check  the   

And  it  is  back  off. 

-  -  SEP  temperature  when  you  turned  it  on.  Gene? 
Jack?    The  receiver? 

No.     I  didn't;  I  didn't.     Doubt  if  it  changed 
much  since  I  called  you. 

Okay.     We'll  catch  it  at  station  2. 
Okay.     Low  gain  -  - 

Okay,  Jack,  we  got  transmitter  and  receiver  both 
on,  huh? 

-  -  antenna  is  2Uo  and  we're  ready  for  you  guys  to 
leave . 

CC  Give  us  a  mark  on  the  leave. 


CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 


LMP-EVA 

CC 
CC 

CDR-EVA 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.     Here  you  go,  Jack;  we  need  -  The  SEP  antenna 
ssxi  receiver  ~  receiver  and  transmitter,  both  on, 
huh? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.     , . .   

CC  Okay.     And,  Gene,  re:^ieiaber  we  want  a  mark  when  you 

pass  the  end  of  the  antenna. 

CDR-EVA  Okar,-, 

LMP-EVA    Can  drive  fairly  slowly,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  mitil  I  get  past  the  end.     I  got  to  get  my 
heading  changed  ahout  10  degrees  to  parallel. 
We':-e  still  in  the  same  relative  position.  Bob. 

CC  Oitay .     Very  good. 

CDR-EVA    0":^.,-v . 

05  18  51  Ok     CDR-SVA    Okay=     We  are  moving  right  now. 

CC  Ckay,     We're  manning  that, 

CDR-EVA    Slowly.     Okay,     Standby,  Bob. 

tlAjZ  it , 

tivcLy  .     Couy  that . 


05  18  51  Us  CDR-EVA 


CDR-EVA    Or.ay,     V7e  want  to  go  past   ...   at  neading  260 , 
Jack. 

LkP-EVA    Well,  we  want  tc  get  at  080  and  0.4  and  get  rid 
of  this   charge . 

CDR-EVA    Okay .     , , .  

Llv]P-SVA    Yes .     I  want  xo  ...  

CC  Okay,  17,  a  couple  of  words  there  as  you  drive 

aicng.  Lec  me  give  them  to  you  early  here.  One, 
we  didn't  bother  zo  cnange  all  the  numbers  on  the 
checklist,  but,  by  and  large,  because  we  think 


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we're  200  meters  east  of  where  we  were,  you  should 
probably  increase  all  those  numbers  except  for  the 
explosive  package  numbers  by  about  two-tenths  to 
get  the  distance  at  which  you  will  come  across  these 
areas.     Again  it's  about  0 .k ,  0.5,  and  we  expect  to 
deploy  EP-1|.     The  more  important  number  though  is 
that  it's  0.2  west  of  the  ALSEP.     As  you  pass  the 
ALSEP,  you  might  know  what  the  range  and  distance 
are  reading  at  that  point . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Range  -  range  is  the  one  that  changes  -  on 
No,  wait  a  minute,  that  - 

ODR-EVA    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  it.    Which  is  it?    Range  changes  every 
half  -  on  the  half  kilometer, 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Distance. 

CC              Roger,  Jack.     The  range  is  -  - 
CDR-EVA     ...  go  around  ...   

CC  What  changes  in  the  middle  at  0.50  meters  and 

150  meters . 

LIv!P-EVA    Okay.    We  -  The  fender  fix  is  working  so  far. 
CC  Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  around  your  flag.     There's  your  flag 
way  out  there,  isn't  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  around  that.     Man  -  That's  really  giving 
the  ALSEP  some  room. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Okay,  Bob.     We're  still  seeing  -  the  light- 
colored  gabbroic  rocks.     I  think  the  reason  I  said 
50  percent  was  because  in  this  light  they  look 
light-colored,  and  that's  probably  largely  because 
of  the  zap  pit  halos. 


CC 


Okay.     I  copy  that.  Jack. 


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LMP-EVA    But,  in  the  it  looked  like  the  standard  - 

standard  gabliro. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  And,  Bob,  I'm  -  I'm  full  ouv  at  about  11   

LMP-EVA  Okay,  you  can  ~  you  ean  turn  right,  now. 

CDR-EVA  I'm  full  out  at  about  11  clicks  right  now. 

CC  Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA  Oops.     ...  (Laughter) 

•^C  You  can  give  me  a  call  as  you  pass  by  the  ALSEP 
as  you  get  ready  to  deploy  the  charge,  please. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     We're  almost  due  south  of  the  ALSEP  now. 

CC  Okay  

CDR-EVA     ...  that.     I've  got  to  work  my  way  through  here. 

-  -  copy  that.     Go  about  0.2  kilometers  further 
than  that , 

LI/[P-EVA    It's  a  little  rocky  out  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it  sure  is. 

LtvIP-EVA    Every  -  In  the  area  we  are  now  -  you  get  a  dis- 
tance that  was  - 

CDR-SVA    Okay.     We  Just  clicked  to  U .     I  want  to  move  over 
this  way  just  a  suJtosh. 

LMP-EVA    Yes  . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  can  -I'm  just  south  of  my  geophone  2 
flag  now. 

CC  Okay=     If  you  just  clicked  to  k,  let's  go  to  6 

then,  just  past  the  click  on  6. 

LMP-EVA    Cksy.     And  you  want  about  080? 


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CDR-EVA    Plenty  good  enough.     I  got  to  start  heading  right 
out  here,  right  toward  my  -  upper  graphic  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Hole-ln-the-Wall  should  he  Just  to  the  left 
of  the  notch. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     That's  exactly  where  I'm  heading. 

LMP-EVA    And  I  think  we're  coming  up  closer  to  the  rim  of 
camelot.     It's  starting  to  look  like  a  crater  now. 

CC  Okay;  very  good. 

05  18  55  00     LMP-EVA    Looking  down-Sun,  I  see  no  major  alhedo  changes 

except  for  the  very  fresh  craters  which  are 
brighter.     By  a  few  -  hy  a  -  maybe  20  percent. 
The  surface  -  - 

CDR-EVA,    How  are  we  doing. 

LMP-EVA    5 . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Here's  your  charge.     Pick  a  spot. 
Jack. 

LI#'-EVA    Okay;  can  you  swing  right  out  over  there  

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    about  10  meters  ahead? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Give  me  a  shallow  turn. 
CDR-EVA    How's  that? 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  And  I'll  set  it  right  there  on  that  -  in 
that  -  Can  you  move  forward,  and  I'll  get  it  in 
that  little  depression. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  You  see  on  the  other  side  of  the  rock. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob;  O83,  0.6,  and  0.5. 


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CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

05  18  55  57    LMP-EVA    Okay.     Pin  1,  pulled  and  safe;  Pin  2  is  pulled  and 

safe;  Pin  3,  pulled  and  safe.     Ever  stop  and 
ask  yourself  what  I'm  doing. 

CC  I  copy  that ,  Jack  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes  (laughter). 

-  -  if  you  can  give  us  a  frame  count,  we'd  appreci- 
ate it.     And  I  might  remind  you  two  to  "both  check 
that  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Don't  fall  over. 

CC  -  -  you're  at  MIIJ  cooling  since  you've  got  a  long 

drive  ahead  of  you  there. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  I  lost  my  sample  thing. 

CDR-EVA  Threw  it  in  the  floor? 

LI4P-EVA  I  hope  so. 

05  18  56  i+3     CDR-EVA  That  look  good? 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  it's  going  to  stay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Have  you  got  anything  to  . . .     If  not,  I'll 
do  a  iDartial  for  you. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  We  got  to  do  a  partial.  I'd  like  to  know 
where  that  sampler  is.  Well,  we  can  do  without 
it,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Sure  he  nice  to  -  What  did  it  do;  come  off 
the  end? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  I  can  check  it  though. 
CDR-EVA    Get  your  pan? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     If  you  go  around  to  -  to  seeing  that  big 
block  there  by  the  ALSEP ,  then  you  can  -  Forget 
it . 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.     Okay.     I'll  Just  come  on  around,  and  I'll 

pick  up  my  tracks.  Do  you  want  to  get  that  sampler? 
Can  you  see  it? 

LMP-EVA    I  think  I'd  better  look. 

CDR-EVA    All  right.    Take  a  look.     Bob,  one  stop  here  for 
about  2  seconds. 

CO  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     It's  down  there. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  put  it  on  real  quick  and  - 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  why  -  It  was  hard  to  put  on. 

Surprised  it  came  off.     Here  let  me  -  let  me  hold 
the  end. 

CDR-EVA    You  got  to  -  got  them  retracted? 
LMP-EVA  Retracted. 

CDR-EVA    They'll  retract.     And  let  me  know  when. 
LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay.     It's  -  it's  loose. 
CDR-EVA    Retracted.     You  want  it  -  how  you  want  it? 
LMP-EVA    Retract  it  again. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.     Retract  it. 

LMP-EVA    No  -  Let  go,  let  go  -  no,  it's  just  hooking. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Try  it  -  push  it  in  once  more. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  best  I  can  do.     I'll  just  lock  -  I'll 
twist  it  down  on  there  and  maybe  it'll  hold. 

05  18  58  20     CDR-EVA    Okay.     Twist  it  tight.     I  got  the  rod. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'll  just  have  to  be  careful.     Okay.  I've 
got  it . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Oh  -  oh. 


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LMP-EYA    I've  got  it. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    You  don't  have  to  put  it  in  -  push  down. 
CDR-EVA    OX ay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Okay.     Let's  go.     Every  time  you  pick  your 
seatbelt  up  ...  It's  untwisted  now. 

CDR-EV4  Okay? 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 
CDR-EVA    All  set? 
LMP-EVA    Just  about. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  a  reminder.    We're  still  seeing  you  in 

intermediate.     You  probably  will  want  to  go  to 
min  before  you  get  back  on. 

CDR-EVA  He's  back  on  now. 

LMP-EVA  And  we're  rolling. 

05  18  59  22    CC  Okay,  copy.     You're  moving. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Let's  go  to  Hole-in-the-Wall .     Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay.     One  other  thing  1  might  mention  to  you  guys 

as  you're  driving  here.  Jack,  before  you  start  talk- 
ing again,  is  that  -  as  you  go  by  Camelot ,  you  might 
keep  an  eye  out  for  blocks  along  the  rim  there, 
because  remember  -  we  may  be  wanting  to  come  back 
and  move  station  5  to  an  area  where  there's  blocks, 
unless  there  are  blocks  at  the  present  nominal  sta- 
tion 5.     So  you  might  keep  an  eye  for  that  and  plan 
for  the  way  back.     A  second  thing  a  reminder,  if 
you  do  stop  for  a  Rover  sample  or  one  thing  or 
another  along  the  way,  give  us  a  call  and  keep  us 
informed,  because  we're  timing  you  on  the  way  out 
and  the  assumption  is,  of  course,  that  driving  time 
out  equals  drive-back  time.     And  we're  under  a 
63-minute  limit  to  get  you  from  the  LM  out  to  the 
station  2  because  of  OPS  drive  back.     So,  keep  us 
informed  so  we  can  keep  a  good  tab. 


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LMP-EVA     Okay,  Bob.     Okay.     We'll  keep  you 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  got  the  thing  tube-locked,  and  I'm  averaging 
probably  10  to  11  clicks.     It's  not  exactly 
straight-line  navigation,  but  I  think  I  can  hold 
most  of  it. 


CC  Roger.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    Watch  the  crater  -  there  you  go 

CC  And,  Jack,  a  reminder  -  - 


LMP-EVA    I  tell  you,  when  Gene  decides  to  turn  -  whoo! 

CC  And,  Jack,  a  reminder  on  photos  yesterday.  You 

apparently  took  quite  a  few  on  the  way  back  from 
station  1  to  the  SEP,  and  we're  right  nominal  on 
budget  now.     But,  considering  the  fact  that  we 
didn't  do  much  sampling  if  you  continue  to  use 
them  at  the  rate  you  did  yesterday  coming  back 
from  station  1,  at  least  as  we  understand  it, 
you'll  be  pushing  us  pretty  hard  in  the  budget. 
Should  be  every  50  meters  or  every  100  meters. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  okay.     And  you  want  to  hear  something? 

CC  Roger.     I'll  listen  now. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     The  surface  is  not  changing  in  terms  of 
the  detail.     The  surface  texture  of  the  fine- 
grained regolith  still  is  -  has  a  raindrop  pattern. 
We're  more  -    the  blocks  still  look  very  much  like 
what  we  sampled  yesterday  around  the  LM.  They're 
light  colored,  apparently  gabbros  ,  with  zap  pits  - 
zap  halos.     Occasional  craters  show  lighter  colored 
ejectas  both  all  the  way  down  to  -  say  half  a 
meter  in  size.     Other  craters  that  are  Just  as 
blocky  as  those  with  bright  halos  have  no  bright- 
ness associated  with  them.     Most  of  the  brightest 
craters  have  a  little  central  pit  in  the  bottom 
which  is  glass  lined.     The  pit  is  maybe  -  a  fifth 
of  the  diameter  of  the  crater  itself.     It's  a 
fairly  standard  thing  for  most  of  these  fresher 
craters,  is  that  little  central  pit. 


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05  19  02  20     CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  just  south  of  the  rim  of  Camelot . 

There  is  a  light  mantle  on  the  other  side.  Look 
at  that  crater.  Whool 

LMP-EVA    We've  got  the   ...  -  oh,  and  there's  Camelot . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  Whoo!     Manischewitz .     Take  a  couple  of  pictures 
looking  at  that . 


U^P-EVA  Okay.  Can  you  swing  a  little? 
CDR-EVA    Yes . 


05  19  02  36    LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  them. 

CDR-EVA    That  is  a  600-meter  crater. 


LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  -  I  -  - 


CDR-EVA    And  It  is  very  likely  we  won't  have  any  problem 
finding  blocks  on  the  rim  of  Camelot. 

CC  Hey,  how  about  a  bearing  and  range  there  to  help 

us  pick  out  the  LM  . . ,  Roger.  How  about  bearing 
and  range  to  help  us  pick  out  the  LM  location. 

05  19  02  50     CDR-EVA    Okay.     08,  31.2,  and  1.0. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you.    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  listen  - 


LMP-EVA    Okay.     There's  a  little  - 
CDE-EVA    Man,  are  there  blocks  there. 


LMP-EVA    Now  that  -  little  crater  in  the  ejecta  did  not  - 
of  Camelot,  at  least  the  rim  of  Camelot,  did  not 
bring  up  blocks  on  the  rim.     It  may  have  been  an 
old  depression.     Bob,  there  is  extremely  blocky 
area.     This  would  -  I  think  station  5  was  over 
there  where  that  block  area  is.     The  light-colored 
areas  on  the  photos  are  essentially  -  blocky. 
They're  probably  30  percent  blocks.     All  of"  them 
are  in  the  -  many  of  them  are  in  the  2-  to  3-  to 
i+-meter  size  range.    All  of  them  look  light 
colored,  look  like  the  gabbro  we  sampled  from 


Tape  93A/3T 


a  distance.     They  have  light-halo  zap  pits  on  them. 
I  see  only  occasional  grayer  varieties,  which  I 
believe  are  the  nonvesicular  ones  like  we  also 
sampled. 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that,  Jack.     Very  good. 

LMP-EVA    But  the  light-colored  gahbros  are  dominant. 
CC  Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Station  5  would  have  been  -  rather  than  in 
a  light-colored  area  would  have  been  in  a  very 
blocky  area.     Station  5  is  probably  still  very 
good  for  blocks . 


CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    There  is  probably  as  big  blocks  there  as  anywhere 
on  the  rim  that  we've  seen. 


CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     We  ought  to  be  going  be  -  really  between 
Horatio  and  Camelot  now. 


CDR-EVA    No.     I'm  going  to  give  them  a  call  when  we're  due 
south  of  Camelot  and  see  if  they  can't  get  a  posi- 
tion on  us  . 


CDR-EVA  Hold  it.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Ooh,  watch  it. 

CDF-EVA  Hold  it;  hold  it. 

LMP-EVA  You  can  go  around  that  one. 

CDR-EVA  You  bet  you  (laughter).     Whoo!     That  slowed  th 
speed  up  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA  You  can  \inwrinkle  your  toes  now.  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    Oh.     I  wasn't  worried.  Gene.     V/atch  that  block 
there;  it's  probably  more  than  lU  inches.  And 
got  a  fairly  close  look  at  the  rock,  and  it  is  the 
vesicular  -  looks  very  much  like  the  vesicular 
clinopyroxene  gabbro. 

CC  Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Now,  the  surface  of  Camelot  is  mantled  -  or  the 

rim  ~  is  mantled  with  the  same  dark-gray  material, 
and  it  has  the  same  surface  texture  -  a  very  fine 
raindrop  pattern.     The  saturation  crater  size  does 
not  look  bigger  than  a  half  a  meter,  if  that. 

05  19  05  30     CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  give  you  08l,  1.6,  and  l.h. 

We're  south  of  the  center  of  Camelot. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you.  Gene. 

LMP-EVA  One  crater  -  Okay.  We  ought  to  see  Horatio  here 
pretty  quick.  I  think  it's  right  up  in  front  of 
us  , 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  think  you're  right. 

05  19  05  52     CDR-EVA    We  can  definitely  see  the  light  mantle  as  it  comes 

out  over  the  valley  here,  and  we're  looking  at 
Hole-in-the-Wall,  although  it's  still  too  subtle. 
We're  looking  right  at  Lara,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  There's  Lara,  very  clear;  and  Hole-in-the- 
Wall,  you  can  see  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  19  06  09     CDR-EVA    There's  Horatio  way  over  there  where  those  blockLi 

are.     See  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  Horatio.     We're  right  on  course,  sir. 

There's  a  little  depression  we  didn't  talk  about, 
though ,  between  Horatio  and  Camelot .     But  it  '  s  a 
depression  and  not  a  blocky  crater  at  all.     As  a 
matter  of  fact,  the  total  block  population  has 
changed  out  on  the  -  once  we  get  away  from  the  rim 
of  Camelot  the  block  frequency  is  quite  a  bit 
smaller.     It's  down  -  maybe  to  only  ~  less  than 
1  percent  of  the  surface. 


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CDR-EVA    Much  easier  driving  with  the  Rover.     Boy,  am  I  glad 
we  got  that  fender  on.     Very  obvious  that  the  Rover 
navigation  -  because  of  the  blocks  and  because  of 
the  smaller  ...  craters,  and  very  subtle  type 
craters  are  in  this  area. 


05  19  07  27 


LMP-EVA    There  are  up  to  2-meter,  bright-halo,  blocky 

craters  -  and  that's  blocky  wall  craters  that  may 
be  incident  rock  rather  than  -  I  think  it  is 
rather  than  bedrock  -  in  the  rim  area  of  Camelot . 

CDR-EVA    Horatio  has  got  to  be  -  there's  Horatio,  right 
there . 


LMP-EVA    Yes.     That's  Horatio. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  give  another  mark  on  the  southern  rim  of 
Horatio, 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     The  scarp  looks  very  smooth  from  here  - 

no  obvious  outcrops  at  this  time.     Don't  seem  to 
be  penetrating  to  any  bedrock  in  the  area  we're 
traversing  now,  just  to  the  southeast  of  Horatio. 
Horatio  has  a  blocky  wall;  however,  the  upper 
several  tens  of  meters,  probably,  of  rim  look  as 
if  it's  either  mantled  or  composed  of  -  the  light- 
gray  regolith  material  we've  been  driving  on. 
The  blocks  do  not  come  to  the  rim  of  Horatio. 


CC 


Okay.     Copy  that.  Jack. 


CDR-EVA    -  -  know  if  I  want  to  take  you  down  there  or  not. 
Yes,  Jack,  hold  on  . . .  you  down  there. 

LMP-EVA    Horatio  has  quite  a  different  appearance  than 

Camelot.     It  is  -  and  that's  the  main  one  -  the 
rims  -  the  blocks  do  not  get  to  the  rim. 

LMP-EVA    What's  your  roll?     (Laughter)     I  know  it's  not  much, 
but  it  seems  like  a  lot. 


CDR-EVA 


go  around  that  crater. 


LMP-EVA    Yes.     The  -  It  looks  like  -  if  Horatio  is  any  gage, 
the  rim  thickness  of  maybe,  and  this  is  a  wild 
guess.  Bob,  but  maybe  an  average  of  20  or  30  meters 
stratigraphic  thickness  lies  above  the  exposuros 


Tape  93A/iiO 


of  the  siibfloor;  exposures  being  blocks  in  the 
wall.    And  some  of  those  blocks,  again,  are  several 
meters,  if  not  5  to  10  meters  in  diameter.  And 
they're  concentrated  on  the  west  rim  that  I  can 
see.    There  are  very  few  blocks  on  the  east  - 
excuse  me,  the  west  wall  -  there  are  very  few 
blocks  on  the  east,  north,  and  south  walls  of 
Horatio. 


CC  Copy  that ,  Jack. 

05  19  09  hi    CDR-SVA    Okay,  Bob.    We're  on  the  southern  rim;  078,  2.3, 

and  2.0. 


IJy[P-EVA    Yes.     We're  maybe  100  meters  south  of  the  rim. 

Actually,  we're  on  the  rim  crest.  We're  100  meters 
south  of  the  brealc  in  slope  into  the  crater. 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  lot  of  -  it's  an  undulating,  hummocky 
traverse  terrain  in  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    These  little  craters  make  it  bumpy;  but,  other 
than  that,  it's  really  smooth  sailing. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right.    This  is  what  I  sort  of  expected 
dark  mantle  to  look  like,  rather  than  what  we 
landed  on.    Not  more  than  1  percent  of  the  sur- 
face, and  that  -  and  that  percentage  continues 
right  over  the  rim  crest  of  Horatio  down  onto  the 
wall  until  you  hit  the  big  blocks. 

05  19  10  2h     CDR-EVA    What's  this  depression?     That's  not  -  No,  we're 

not  to  Bronte  yet. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  don't  have  any  -  No,  we're  not  at  Bronte  - 

Okay,  17.     And  how  about  an  amps  and  a  mobility  - 
a  speed  reading, 

05  19  10  38    CDR-EVA    I've  been  pushing  aywhere  from  9  to  11  clicks, 

and  most  of  the  time  that's  full  out,  and  amperes 
are  bouncing  around  100  apiece. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  watch  these  down-Sun  craters.     They're  htivd 
to  see . 


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CDR-EVA    I  know  they  are.    We're  climbing.  Jack.  Because 
I've  "been  full  bore  most  of  the  time,  and  all  I 
can  get  out  of  it  is  10  clicks;  and  when  I  deceler- 
ate, she  decelerates  in  a  hurry.     What's  our  next 
stop  here,  a  sample  at  3.9? 

LMP-EVA    A  -  080/3.9. 

05  19  11  13    CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  sitting  on  O8O  right  now  and  2.6.  I 

think  we've  got  to  add  a  little  hit  to  that  ... 

05  19  11  21    CC  Okay.     Stand  hy.     We'll  get  a  new  correction  for 

you  guys  on  that  shortly. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh.     The  surface  is  not  changing.     We  see 
no  craters  that  seem  to  penetrate  into  bedrock 
out  in  here  -  that  is  with  blocky  rims,  and  that's 
quite  a  contrast  to  the  area  we  sampled  at  sta- 
tion lA  yesterday.     I  see  -  I  cannot  see  in  my 
field  of  view  any  blocky-rim  craters.     There  are 
slight  craters  with  -  with  fragment al  walls  and 
rims,  hut  it  looks  like  incident  rock  rather  than 
the  suhfloor  material. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,   can  you  see  over  there  to  the  left?  I'll 
turn  a  little  bit  -  on  the  -  on  the  dark  area  of 
the  South  Massif  where  you  get  those  -  those  im- 
pressed lineations.     See  them  going  from  left 
upward  to  the  right? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  see  what  you  mean;  right. 

CDR-EVA    That's  what  I  saw  out  my  window. 

LMP-EVA    Yes  -  lower  left  they  -  they  go  obliq.uely  up  the 
slope . 

CDR-EVA    They're  more  like  wrinkles,  they're  -  linear 
wrinkles . 

LMP-EVA    Yes,     Crenulations ,  you  might  say,  in  the  slope 

that  look  something  like  those  I  saw  from  orbit  - 
looking  in  the  shadowed  area  -  at  the  edge  of  the 
shadows.     Bob,  we've  seen  craters  as  much  as  - 
20  meters ,  maybe  30  meters  in  diameter  without 
blocky  rims. 


Tape  93A/ii2 


05  19  12  hh    CC  Copy  that,   ...    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    The  rim  block  population  is  not  much  dif  -  The  rim 
■block  popiilation  is  not  much  different  than  the 
average  for  the  terrain  in  here. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I'll  tell  you.     If  we  can't  recognize  a 

change  in  that  albedo  when  we  get  onto  that  white 
mantle,  I'm  going  to  be  surprised. 

LMP-EVA    Mark  my  words.     Okay.     The  light  mantle  is  just 

what  Gene  has  said,  it's  a  -  that's  it,  right  now  - 
there  are  some  very  bright  craters  in  it  -  they 
stand  out,  bright-haloed  craters  scattered  over  it, 
that  -  seem  to  be  quite  a  bit  brighter  than  any- 
thing we  have  out  here  on  the  dark  mantle.  See 
those  blocks  over  there?    That's  the  first  dif- 
ferent colored  blocks  I've  seen^  they're  sort  of 
gray  looking. 

CDR-EVA    Where  are  you  looking? 

LMP-EVA    Over  to  the  right  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA    Darker  gray,  a  little  bit. 

05  19  13  hi    LMP-EVA    Watch  yourself  here.     Okay.     There's  a  crater  with 

a  big  mass  of  block  in  the  bottom.     It  looks  like 
there  ~  it  might  be  a  secondary  fragment  from 
somewhere . 

CDR-EVA    Do  you  want  to  get  a  photo  as  we  go  by? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  let's  -  can  you  swing  a  little  bit  to  the 
right? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That  might  be  worth  a  -  How's  our  time  for 

traverse,  Bob?     Do  we  have  time  for  an  LRV  sample? 

05  19  Ih  03    CC  You're  doing  great,  so  far.     We're  looking  for 

that  first  LRV  sample  at  about  h .2  -  that's  in 
the  light  mantle,  if  you  can  do  it  quickly.  But 
it's  -  we  weren't  planning  on  it. 


Tape  93A/U3 


CDR-EVA  Want  one  here? 

U^P-EVA  Yes,  let's  get  - 

GC  Target  of  opportunity  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  get  - 

CDR-EVA  Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Swing  a  little  bit  to  the  right  now. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Right  up  across  that  little  ray. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  And  I'll  try  to  get  a  chunk  of  whatever  -  okay,  I 
want  -  keep  going  -  keep  going  - 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  that  big  ...   

LtlP-EVA  Whoa,  whoa,  whoa, 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LlyP-EVA  Let  me  get  the  switch  off. 

05  19  Ih  3h    CDR-EVA    082,  3.0,  and  2.6.     And,  Bob,  I've  been  making  -  10  to 

12  clicks  coming  across  the  surface;  and,  as  I 
say,  for  the  most  part,  that's  full  bore  except 
where  I  have  to  do  some  rapid  changes. 

CC  Okay.     And,  by  and  large,  the  back  room  ifi  inter- 

ested in  you  guys  pressing  on  to  station  2. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we  are.     Just  watch  the  batt  -  or  the  - 
LCRU. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Gene.     That's  a  pretty  big  rock  in  there. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    And,  Bob,  I  think  there's   


Tape  93klkh 


CDR-EVA    Hold  it.    Hold  it  down  farther  -  down.     It's  got 
quite  a  bit  of  dirt  in  it. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  this  is  a  sam  -  this  is  a  block  from  a 

linear-strewn  field  of  very  irregular  and  jagged 
rocks  that  are  -  that  are  southwest  of  the  -  of  a 
crater  that's  10  to  I5  meters  in  diameter.     If  - 
ii"-if-it  looks  like  the  material  that  may  have 
formed  the  crater,  and  you  can  look  at  some  of  the 
pictures  and  make  up  your  own  decision. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  get  it  in  there?     Okay.     You  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  No,  no.     No ,  I  didn't. 

LMP-EVA  Efo? 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  The  bag's  not  open. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  okay.     Yes,  that's  bad. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  push  it  in?     Pull  down. 

05  19  16  02    CDR-EVA  Okay.     It's  down.     26  Echo,  Bob.     We're  on  our  way. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that   

CDR-EVA  Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  And,  you  got  a  frame  count.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  yes.     Let  me  - 

CDR-EVA  And  I  did  get  my  locator  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I  got  mine. 

CC  Thank  you.  Jack,  Gene. 

05  19  16  17    LMP-EVA  And  the  frame  -  the  frame  count  is  95. 

CC  Copy  that. 


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LMP-EVA    Holy  cow!     I'd  better  slov  down  my  picture  taking. 
CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    We're  in  a  little  area  where  the  fragment 
population  may  be  up  to  3  percent.     It's  getting 
a  little  more  like  what  we  saw  around  the  LM. 
In  fact,  I  would  say  it  was  comparable  now. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  down  this  slope  and  up  the  other  side. 
Jack . 

LMP-EVA    But  nothing  like  station  1. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     And  the  next  planned  Rover 

sample  will  be  at  a  distance  of  k.2;  so,  080  and 
h.2.     And  it  will  be  in  the  light  mantle  if  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     We  got  it.  Bob. 

CC  -  -  that's  the  big  reason  for  those  numbers. 

LN!P-EVA    Okay.     It's  in  the  first  fall  of  light  mantle,  as 
I  recall.     Is  that  right? 

CC  Roger;  the  thumb. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Your  heading  at  260  looks  like  it's 
right  on,  by  the  way,  from  what  I  see  on  the 
skyline . 

CC              Okay.     And  how's  the  low-gain  antenna  holding  up? 
LMP-EVA    Look  at  that  ...   

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  moving  it,  so  I  guess  you're  getting  it. 

CC  Yes,  we're  getting  it  -  just  checking. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I'm  still  -  the  blocks  I  see  still  seem  to  be 
the  gabbro,  except  for  that  one  sample  we  took, 
which  I  hope  was  what  I  thought  it  was  - 

CDR-EVA    Gee,  it's  blocky  here. 

LMP-EVA    Let's  see   

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  a  big  crater.     We  got  to  get  around  here. 


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05  19  17  50    LMP-EVA    Okay.     That  musx  be  Bronte. 

CDR-EVA    My  gosh,  is  that  big. 
LMP-EVA    That's  bigger  than  I  expected. 
CDR-EVA    Whoo!     I  got  to  go  around  this  thing. 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  yes.     There  are  some  very  -  - 
CDR-EVA    I  got  to  go  back  here. 

LMP-EVA    (Noise)     Blocks,  greater  than  the  normal  gabbro 
we've  seen,  that  are  very  -  have  very  large, 
egg-sized  vesicles  in  them. 

LMP-EVA    Watch  it  -  you  got  one  on  your  right  there  -  Here 
you  go. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  got  them. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  -  don't  mind  me,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    No.     No  problem.     That's  all  right,  because  some 

of  those  down-Suns  are  hard  to  see.     I  want  to  get 
off  this  slope . 

LJ^-EVA    I  wonder  if  I  took  a  picture  of  that  block  deal? 
(Laughing)     I  hope  I  did.     Getting  to  be  so 
automatic  that  I'm  not  sure  what  I'm  taking  any 
more . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  go  through  this  niche  between  - 
on  a  high  point  in  the  saddle  here. 

05  19  18  1+8    LMP-EVA    Okay.     How  does  It  figure.  Bob?     I  think  we're 

just  north  of  Bronte.    Does  that  figure? 

05  19  18  5I+    CC  Roger.    That  seems  to  be  about  where  you  should  be 

on  the  map  here.     We  gather  you're  circumnavigating 
a  little  bit.     Comm's  dropping  out  from  time  to 
time . 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  19  19  03     CDR-HVA    0.8,  3-5,  and  2.9;  and  we're  on  the  north  siae  of 

Bronte . 


Tape  93A/1+T 


LMP-EVA    And  it  looks  like  Bronte  has  penetrated  the  dark 
mantle  in  here.     It  got  the  suh floor,  but  there's 
not  an  awful  lot  of  hlocks  around  the  rim  -  There 
are  just  some  small  ones  -  compared  to  what  we 
saw  around  -  Watch  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes .     Yes . 


LMP-EVA    What  we  saw  around  Horatio  or  in  the  walls  of 

Horatio  and  around  Cainelot .     Nothing,  also,  like  we 
saw  yesterday  at  station  1.     Bob,  that  characteristic 
little  dimple  in  the  bottom  of  the  craters  is  still 
with  us,  and  it's  invariably  glass-lined  in  the 
fresh  ones  . 


CC  Okay.     Very  good. 

Lt^P-EVA    Now,  that's  not  a  complete  lining.     It  just  -  there 
seems  to  be  glass  agglutinates,  if  you  will  -  that's 
holding  the  fragments  in  the  bottom  of  the  crater 
together.     There's  one  on  the  side  of  an  older 
crater.     We're  back  into  about  a  1-percent  coverage. 
I  suspect  that  the  reason  we  -  our  block  population 
went  up  there  was  because  of  Bronte. 

CDR-EVA    An  awful  lot  of  these  ...  glass-1  Ined  little  craters 
around. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  and  you  notice.  Gene,  what  I  was  saying  about 
the  little  dimple  in  the  bottom? 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA    Watch  the  fresh  ones,  and  they  all  have  that  little 
dimple  as  if  that  -  You  see,  there's  one  right 
there . 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  right  there. 
LMP-EVA    Man,  you  can  predict  it. 


CDR-EVA    Jack,  you  know,  I  think  the  white  mantle  is 

starting  right  over  there.     See  on  your  right? 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  the  first  - 


Tape  93A/U8 


CDR-EVA.   The  place  you  can  really  see  it  is  vhere  it's  re- 
flected off  the  slopes  of  the  -  or  the   

LMP-SVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    -  ~  Of  the  cliffs  out  there,  but  I  think  -  I  hate 
to  say  it,  "but  Charlie  may  be  right. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  but  you  know,  one  thing  that  may  distinguish 
it  is  the  -  the  bright-halo  craters  are  brighter. 

CDR-EVA    But  I  can  see  it  from  here  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes , 

CDR-EVA    -  -  On  the  floor  of  the  valley  here. 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    On  the  scarp  it  really  shows  up. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Block  population  is  unchanged;  still  appears 
to  be  the  -  when  I  can  see  large  enough  blocks  - 
appears  to  be  the  gabbro,  although  there's  not  as  - 
not  as  much  to  look  at  now  in  terms  of  blocks. 
The  surface  characteristics  have  not  changed. 
There  are  no  craters  that  we  see  that  are  bringing 
up  clear,  blocky  rims.     There's  a  -  most  of  the 
fresh  craters  have  incident  rock  around  them.  The 
craters  are  the  same  size.     They  are  older  and  more 
subdued.     That  incident  rock  is  apparently  broken 
down.     I  suspect  a  small  zapping  breaks  that  down 
fairly  quickly. 

Okay,  IT.     Copy  that.     You  still  making  about  9  to 
11  kilometers? 

No,  sir.     I've  been  making  from  10  to  12,  Bob,  - 
mostly  12. 

Okay.     Can  you  give  me  a  reading  on  the  amps  this 
time,  Geno. 


CDR-EVA 
CC 


CDR-EVA    Okay.     You're  getting  -  Stand  by.     I've  got 
little  navigating  to  do. 


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CC 

05  19  22  11  CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
L.W-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

05  19  23  27  CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


Okay;  standing  by. 

Okay.  I'm  read  -I'm  reading  -I'm  reading  100  - 
bouncing  -  around  100  on  both  of  them. 

Okay.    How  about  amps  and  not  amp-hours? 

...  up-and-down,  hummocky  terrain,  I  think  with  - 
Oh,  I'm  sorry. 

Watch  your  -  you  got  a  hole  in  front  of  you. 
Yes, 

Oh.     There  you  go.     Spun  out  a  little  bit. 
Here,  let  me  get  up  here. 
Good  vehicle  you  got  here. 

Yes.     It  takes  a  little  getting  used  to,  though. 
Yes. 

I'm  not  sure  I  want  to  go  through  many  of  those. 
No. 

Okay,  Bob.     I'll  give  you  an  amp  reading  as  soon 
as  I  can.     Just  stand  by  for  it. 

All  right.     There's  no  hurry.     Wo  hurry. 

Would  you  believe  my  camera  handle's  coming  off? 

The  terrain  gets  a  lot  more  locally  hummocky  with 
some  -  with  some  well-rounded  rims  but  very  -  very 
large-aspect-ratio  craters,  which  you  got  to  get 
around  in  here  -  in  the  h~  or  5-meter  size. 

Charlie,  that  -  Charlie  -  I  was  thinking  of  white 
mantle.    That's  the  white  mantle  we're  coming  up 
on  right  up  here . 

Yes . 

See  that  on  your  right? 


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LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    That's  it,  there's  not  going  to  "be  that  much  dif- 
ference . 

LMP-EVA    Oh . 

CDR-EVA    Wot  going  to  he  that  much  difference,  hut  -  look 
where  you're  going. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  to  watch  I  don't  lose  my  camera.     It's  -  come 
loose . 

CDR-EVA    See,  now  you  can  look  where  we're  going  to  come 
up  on  the  white  mantle.     It's  dusted  with  that 
light  -  light  -  look  at  it. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    We're  only  100  meters  from  the  light  mantle. 
LMP-EVA    Well  -  - 

CC  Okay.    How  about  giving  us  the  range  and  bearing 

when  you  get  to  it. 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  -  look  at  this  crater  in  here.  We're 
coming  right  up  on  it  now. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     There  certainly  is  a  change  in  the  general 
albedo,  particularly  in  the  craters.    The  craters 
are  much  brighter  in  their  walls  than  we've  seen 
before . 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That's  a  - 

LMP-EVA    Although  there  still  is  a  brown  -  a  light  gray 
dusting  over  the  top  of  it  in  here,  but  it's 
clearly  different  -  no  question  about  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  can't  see  the  contact  as  you  cross  it  but  we're 
just  -  we  know  we're  coming  into  something  lighter  - 
You  can  -  obviously  see  it. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     We  ought  to  sample  the  rim  of  one  of  these 

craters  when  we  get  our  LRV  sample,  because  that's 
what's  distinctly  lighter. 


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CC  How  alDout  a  range  and  bearing,  guys? 

05  19  2h  hk    CDR-EVA  We're  at  3.8  here,  and  we  can  sample  that  rim  -  - 

CC  Copy  the  3.8. 

05  19  2k  hQ    CDR-EVA  0&3h.h,  3.8,  and  I've  been  ...  -  - 

LI/IP-EVA    How  about  right  over  there,  Geno?     Can  you  get  on 
the  rim  of  that  crater? 

CDR-EVA    Right  here? 

LMP-EVA    No,  right  to  the  right  there.     Right  here  -  that 
light  stuff.     See  the  big  crater  here  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    -  -  and  the  light  material  right  on  the  rim? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  can  get  there.    But  I'm  going  to  have  to 
not  give  you  much  of  a  turn  because  it's  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  all  right.     I  got  the  pictures.     Now,  if 

you  can  swing  to  the  left  a  little  bit  and  then 

back  -  whoa.     Now,  back  right.     Okay.  Hope  my 
camera  stays  on  there. 

CDR-EVA    You  like  that? 

LIv[P-EVA    VJhoa.     Yes.     Whoa,  whoa. 

05  19  25  IT    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    We're  083,  h.k,  and  3.8;  and  I've  been 

running  about  20  to  25  amps,  I  think,  on  both. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    We  are  in  the  light  mantle.     It's  not  a  contrasting 
light  like  you  might  expect,  or  like  we're  looking 
at  on  the  scarp  as  the  Sun  shines  on  it,  but  I  don't 
think  there's  any  question. 

CC  Okay.  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    Yes .     The  craters  are  definite  -  that  penetrate 
into  it  are  definitely  different.    However,  the 
surface  tex±ure  is  unchanged.     There  may  be  fewer 
blocks . 


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CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LIvIP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
05  19  26  31  LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
05  19  26  50  CDR-EVA 


05  19  27  13  CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


05  19  26  02 


05  19  26  16 


Okay;  bag  27  Echo,  27  Echo. 

Copy  that .     And  frame  time ,  Jack? 

Hold  your  bag?    We  don't  vant  to  lose  it. 

Stand  by. 

Hold  it  up . 

Okay.     It's  in  there. 

Is  it  in?     Okay.     Oops,  that  bag  won't  stay  open. 

Yes.     It  will  after  we  get  a  couple  of  samples  in 
there.     Okay;  my  locator. 

And  ray  locator. 

I  hope  I  don't  lose  my  camera. 

I  can't  reach  it,  or  I'd  help  you. 

Okay;  110. 

Copy  that.  Jack. 

I  guess  I  never  -  -  I  guess  I  didn't  do  what  I 
wanted  to  do  and  that's  get  that  thing  really 
cinched  down. 

Boy,  Bob,  one  of  the  remarkable  things  is  the 
Sun-angle  difference  on  that  light  mantle  when 
you're  looking  at  the  slopes  of  the  Scarp  versus 
what  we're  on.     I  hate  to  use  a  familiar  term, 
but  my  impression  right  here  is  there  is  more  of 
a  raindrop  influence  than  back  at  the  LM,  or  in 
the  darker  mantle. 

Okay.     Copy  that. 

Yes.     Might  -  might  by. 

I  think  so. 

I  think  the  big  thing  is,  though,  that  each  one  of 
these  little  craters  is  much  light  -  much  more 


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lightly  colored.     But  ve're  still  not  -  there's  no 
crater  in  view  that  does  -  that  has  a  blocky  rim. 
There's  fragmental  rims  based  on,  almost  certainly. 
Incident  rock,  but  no  blocky  rims. 

CDR-EVA    You  know,  one  of  the  reasons  those  craters  look 
lighter  is  because  of  their  Sun  angle.     Walls  of 
some  of  these  little  craters  -  It's  the  same 
material  we're  driving  on,  I'll  bet.     Yes,  there 
is  incident  rock  right  there.  Jack,  you're  right. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA    The  fragment  population  is  certainly  less  than 
1  percent  in  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Right  now.     V/hen  I  say  fragments,  I'm  talking  about 
rocks  that  are  -  are  greater  than  a  centimeter  in 
grain  size. 

CDR-EVA  You  know,  it  may  be  me.  Bob;  but  it  -  it  also  seems 
to  be  a  little  bit  more  difficult  to  drive  down-Sun 
in  this  area. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  it  is  brighter,  Geno.     I  was  thinking 

that  a  minute  ago,  but  it's  hard  to  make  a  -  I  think 
your  normal  albedo  is  -  is  greater.     Here's  some 
rocks  now  starting  , . .  -  - 

CDR-EVA  And  the  little  craters  still  have  the  central  pits. 

05  19  28  30    CC  Okay.     We're  losing  your  comm  a  little  bit,  guys. 

CDR-SVA  . . . 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  there's  a  few. 

CDR-EVA  . . . 

LMP-EVA  Yes.     There 're  a  few  blocks.     They  still  -  they 

still  look  like  the  gabbro,  though.     Hard  to  tell. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  a  couple  of  them  looked  to  me  like  they  had 
some  verj--  light  ***  crystals  in  them.     See  that? 


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LMP-EVA    I'm  afraid  those  are  zap  pits. 
CDR-EVA    They  could  be. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  -  I  think  I've  lieen  fooled  by  that,  too, 
and  that's  why  I  estimated  the  ...  time. 

CDR-EVA    I  Just  want  to  keep  you  out  of  those  slopes,  and 
I'll  tell  you,  I  get  you  in  some  to   

Ll'lP-SVA    That's  all  right. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  keeping  you  out  of  them. 

05  19  29  11+    LMP-EVA    Okay.     We're  getting  a  little  more  blocks  in  here. 

Of  course,  we're  approaching  the  dark  mantle  again. 
Now,  you  can  see  the  difference.     You  got  to  look 
hard  for  it.     But,  you  see  those  craters  out  in 
there  are  not  white  anymore. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  to  get  around  that  slope. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Okay,     You  still  got  Hole-in-the-Wall  picked 
out  over  there,  don't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  it.     I'm  just    And,  I'm  trying  to 

keep  coram  with  them  as  I'm  turning  here. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 


CDR-EVA    And,  I've  been  keeping  the  thing  on.     I  don't  know 
if  they're  reading  us,  but  I've  been  moving  it. 

05  19  29  k6    CC  Reading  you  loud  and  clear,  giays . 

05  19  29  50    LMP-EVA    Okay.     Looking  up  on  the  South  Massif,  we've  got 

real  good  views  of  the  block-strewn  fields.  There's 
one  that  -  there  seems  to  be  two  dominant  colora- 
tions of  the  rock.     The  light-colored  ones,  very  - 
very  light  tan  and  to  white,  and  then  there  are 
the  blue-gray  rocks.    There's  one  major  outcrop 
of  blue  gray  about  a  sixth  of  the  way  down  the 
slope,  the  center  of  the  field  of  view  we  have, 
and  it  looks  very  much  like  similar  blue-gray  rockr, 
right  at  the  crest,  the  highest  point  from  our 
vantage  point. 


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Tape  93B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUl©  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  19  33  13    CMP  There's  the  ole  Earth.     It's  ahout  a  half  Earth 

now. 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  Robert.     I  guess  the  big  thing  I  want  to 

report  from  the  hack  side  on  this  one  here  is 
that  I  took  another  look  at  the  -  the  Cloverleaf 
in  Altken,  with  the  hinocs,  and  that  southern, 
domical  crater  of  the  Cloverleaf  -  it  has  a  "breach 
on  the  east  -  east  side  of  it.     It  -  I  can't  tell  - 
There's  -  there's  a  flow  -  In  other  words,  the 
domical  structures,  themselves,  are  part  of  a 
flow  material  that  is  partially  filled  up  the 
breach.     In  other  words,  the  breach  has  either 
flowed  into  that  little  domical  structure  before 
the  domes  were  built ,  or  else  all  of  that  stuff 
that's  in  the  mare  floor  has  flown  out  of  that 
domical  structure  before  the  domes  came  in.  In 
other  words,  the  domical  structures,  themselves, 
are  different  time  relationship  to  the  floor, 
itself.     They  are  -  are  younger  than  the  floor, 
itself. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  copy  that. 

05  19  35  20    CC  Ron,  is  there  a  difference  in  the  color  between 

the  dome  and  the  mare  in  Altken,  there? 

CMP  Yes,  there  -  yes,  there  is.     The  dome-type  mate- 

rial is  -  the  colors  again  are  very  hard,  you  know? 
I'm  just  going  to  have  to  say  that  it's  -  it's 
slightly  darker  than  the  mare  floor  -  is  the  way 
it  looks  to  me,  right  at  this  point  in  time. 
Also,  the  texture  is  a  coarser  texture  than  the 
floor  itself.     In  other  words,  the  floor,  to  me, 
is  kind  of  a  standard  mare  flat-floor-type  stuff. 
And  I  have  to  compare  the  texture  of  the  domical 
hills  to  -  Oh  -  I  guess  what  I  would  imagine  is 
some  of  the  daeite  flows  that  I've  seen  out  in 
California.     You  know,  the  heavy  viscous-type 
flows . 


Tape  93B/2 


CC  Roger.     We  copy  there,  Ron. 

CC  That's  good  data  on  Aitken  there,  Ron.     Those  color 

differences  any  -  on  any  of  these  things  -  that 
color  is  one  of  the  most  important  things  you  can 
give  us.     We'll  "be  all  ears  for  that. 

CMP  Okay.     I'll  try  to  -  The  trouble  with  colors,  I'm 

finding  out,  is  that  -  it's  sure  a  function  of 

the  Sun  angle  as  to  what  color  it  appears  to  your 
eye. 

CC  Roger.     We  can  believe  that.     We  just  -  we'll   

CMP  . . .  passes.     Yes . 

05  19  3T  hi    CMP  You  know,  you  take  a  look  at  the  central  peak  of 

Neper ,  and  on  the  south  and  western  edge  of  it , 
you  get  the  vertical  stripes  in  it  or  streaking 
like  you  get  off  of  the  massifs  in  the  landing 
site  area.    And  then,  you  look  at  the  area  around 
in  the  rim  -  around  the  rim  of  Neper ,  and  you  get 
the  corncob  -  I  guess  -  or  Sculptured  Hill-type 
of  appearance. 

CC  Ron,  it's  time  for  PAW  CAMERA  T-stop  time. 

CMP  Okay.     Thank  you.     **«teen  2k  ~ 

05  19  38  38    CMP  Now.     Okay,  went  to  STANDBY  at  -  whatever  I  said 

now.  (Laughter) 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  It's  been  about  30  -  something. 

CC  That's  fine.     No  problem. 

CC  Ron,  if  you  start  your  Picard  orbital  science 

photos  on  time,  I'll  be  glad  to  call  you  to 
change  to  f/5.6  and  the  change  to  f/k,  if  you 
want . 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  can  go  PAN  CAMERA,  OFF  at  this 

t  ime . 


Tape  93B/3 


Okay.     PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  - 
OFF. 

That's  Conder  -  Condorsay  or  Condorcet,  or  whatever 
you  want  to  call  it,  there.     Condorcet  Hotel  is 
the  one  that  has  got  that  diamond- shaped  fill  down 
in  the  -  in  the  floor. 

Roger.     Understand.     Condorcet  Hotel. 

Condor  -  Condorcet  Alfa  -it's  either  got  a  land- 
slide -  I'll  get  a  picture  of  that  the  next  time 
with  -  with  the  other  frame,  hut  it's  either  got 
a  landslide  on  it,  or  it's  had  a  -  And  it  doesn't 
look  like  a  crater  on  the  side  of  the  wall,  on 
the  northwest  wall  of  the  crater. 

Okay.     We  copy  that.     Northwest  wall  of  Condorcet  A. 

That's  a  -  the  area  is  oval  or  ellipse  shape.  Of 
course,  the  top  of  the  ellipse  is  toward  the  top 
of  the  crater.     And  it  looks  like  it's  -  almost 
gets  a  flow  out  of  the  bottom  of  the  ellipse, 
which  is  about  a  fourth  of  the  way  up  from  the 
bottom  of  the  crater. 

Ron,  can  you  give  me  a  scale  on  the  size  of  that 
flow,  as  compared  to  the  rest  of  the  crater? 

Uhhh.     The  -  the  hole  or  the  slope  or  the  slide, 
or  whatever  you  want  to  call  it,  down  through 
there,  is  maybe  one-eighth  of  the  crater  diameter. 
And  the  floor  area  is  only  just  a  real  small  por- 
tion of  one-eighth  size.     It's  a  ...  -  - 

You  seeing  any  lineaments  in  the  area?    Any  linea- 
ments in  the  area? 

Yes.     There  was  some  lineaments  on  the  area  -  in 
the  area;  and  again,  they're  vertical-type  linea- 
ments or  lineations  kind  of  like  the  -  the 
downslope  -  operations  of  most  ...  craters. 


Roger. 


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05  19  ^5  3^    CMP  They're  fresher  ones.     Okay,  let's  see.  We're 

going  to  Plcard  and  then  on  up  to  -  Yerkes  -  Where's 
Yerkes?     There  it  is.     Okay.     Let's  see  where  we're 
aiming  at,  here.     Okay.     Is  it  about  time,  does  it 
look  like? 

CC  Roger.     You  can  start  at  ~  you're  ^ust  about 

30  seconds  from  starting  on  Picard.     And  like  you 
said  on  the  map,  you  go  up  -  you  go  up  Picard,  after 
you  start  up  Picard  X,  there,  and  you  go  on  up 
through  Picard  and  Yerkes  and  that  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC    that  front  there,  up  at  Yerkes'   area.  That's 

the  Yerkes.  Right  above  there  is  where  you  change 
to  f/11. 

CMP  Okay.     Okay,  here  we  go. 

05  19  ^6  21    CMP  Started  it,  Picard  X= 

CMP  Works  better  when  you  take  the  slide  out. 

CC  If  you'll  give  me  kind  of  a  call  at  what  you're 

aiming  at,  like  Picard  X  and  Picard,  I  can  give 
you  a  call  on  those  f-stops,  Ron, 

CMP  Okay.     1  Just  passed  Picard  X;  and  then  the  one 

west  of  that.  what  it  was=     The  next  -  about 

half  the  size  of  Picard  X.     Hey,  does  this  go  right 
through  Picard?     Or  south  of  it? 

CC  No,  it  goes  right  through  dead  center  of  Picard. 

CMF  Okay.     We'll  get  it. 

05  19  ^7  ^3    CMP  Sure  hope  thai;  color  difference  shows  up  in  -  on 

Pica.rd. 

CC  Roger.     We  hope  so,  zoo. 

CMP  There's  black  material  -  now  -  get  on  up  here  - 

you  get  on  up  here 5  the  darker  tannish-gray  material 
covers  essentially  from  the  east  all  the  way  around 
to  the  south.     It  goes  outside  the  rim  as  well  as 
inside  the  rim.     It  drapes  over  the  rim.  That 
can't  be  a  shadow  effect. 


Tape  93B/5 


CC  Have  you  taken  Pi card  yet ,  Ron? 

CMP  Just  now.     Just  one  more,  and  I'll  ^be  through  with 

Pi card.    Change  to  what? 

GC  No,  not  yet.     You  don't  change  it  until  you  get 

on  the  other  side  of  Yerkes,  up  there.     Your  path 
goes  directly  between  Yerkes  and  , . .  -  - 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  go  to  f/ll. 

No.     Don't  change  to  f/ll  until  you're  at  Yerkes. 

CMP  Yes,  okay.     Until  I  get  to  the  other  side  of 

Yerkes. 

CMP  I  can  still  see  those  dark  halo  craters  down  there. 

I'm  going  to  have  to  look  at  them  with  the  binocs 
sometime. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Okay.     When  you're  at  Yerkes  there,  you  want  to 
switch  to  f/ll.     Just  -  - 

CMP 

CC    just  on  the  other  side  of  Yerkes. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  looking  west,  you'll  go  right  through  Proclus, 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Now,  what  comes  after  Proclus? 

CC  Okay.     You  Just  keep  pressing  on  up  through  - 

through  -  up  in  towards  Maraldi.     You  go  up  through 
Proclus,  and  then  Proclus  D;  and  at  that  point, 
you'll  change  to  f/5.6  and  then  get  -  get  into  the 
Maraldi  N,  across  the  maria  there;  and  the  mare 
of  Tran  -  Tranquillity. 


Tape  93B/6 


CMP 
CMP 

CC 

05  19  53  13  CMP 
CC 
CMP 

05  19  53  32  CC 
CMP 
CC 

CMP 


CC 
CMP 

CC 


Ob.,  okay. 

It's  sure  easy  to  see  vhy  that  -  ray  excluded  zone 
shows  up  on  the  pictures  because,  to  me,  it's  - 
it's  a  tan  Sciaptured  Hill-type  material  -  where  - 
in  the  ray  excluded  zone  of  Proclus. 

Okay,  Ron.     The  ~  this  pass  continues  and  you 
change  to  5-6  up  there  at  Proclus  D  at  the  mare/ 
highland  contact  at  Proclus  -  up  around  Proclus 
and  Franz. 

Okay.     It's  about  now.     Change  to  5.6.  Getting 
out  into  the  mare. 

Okay.     You  go  right  across  the  Mare  -  Maraldi  M 

and  Maraldi  D,  and  across  Vitruvius  A  and  Vitruvius. 

Oh.     Okay.     It ' s  a  little  closer  in,  then. 

And,  at  Vitruvius  again  -  - 


  on  that  contact,  the  mare  to  the  highlands  is 

where  you  go  to  f/h. 

At  -  Okay,  Vitruvius?     Yes,  okay;  f/U.     You  know, 
if  you  can  look  up  on  your  map,  it  looks  like 
there's  kind  of  a  subdued  ...   almost  submerged 
crater,  between  -  I  mean  just  east  of  Vitruvius  A. 
And  that  -  that  domical  mounds  that  are  sticking 
up  around  there  are  the  same  type  of  struct^ares 
as  Maraldi  Gamma.     And  that's  what  lead  me  to 
believe  that  -  you  know  -  it's  just  some  old 
jumbled-up-type  stuff  that  was  here  before  the 
mare. 

Roger.    We  copy. 

That  has  a  completely  -  it  has  a  completely  dif- 
ferent -  textiire  to  it  than  the  domical  structures 
of  Ait ken. 

Okay.     We  got  that. 


Tape  93B/T 


CC  Okay.     Have  you  gotten  up  over,  vertical  over 

Vitruvius?    If  you  are,  that's  where  you  go  to 
f/U. 

CMP  Not  guite.     I'm  in  Vitruvius  A,  right  now. 

CC  Okay.     Good  show. 

CMP           And  I  just  took  a  peak  at  it  with  the  "binocs  and  - 
Let's  see,  I'm  5.6  at  1/250.     And  that's  a  dif- 
ferent type  of  material.     It  looks  like  it ' s  a  -  it 
almost  has  to  be  a  slump-type  of  operation.  Some- 
how, it  gets  piled  up  down  in  the  middle.  But 
they're  a  smoother,  more  subdued  type  of  domical 
structures  than  the  ones  in  Aitken.     Okay.  Switch- 
ing to  t/h   

CC  Roger;  f/U   

CMP   1/250. 

CC  Your  track  goes  right  across  the  mare  -  the  mare 

there  between  Tranq^uillity  and  Serenity  -  right 
across  Dawes,  and  ends  at  just  to  the  east  and 
north  of  Plinius.     On  that  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  -  -  that  appears  to  be  the  boundary  between 

Tranquillity  and  Serenity. 

CMP  No,  when  I  take  a  look  at  it  from  this  angle,  you 

even  get  a  different  -  the  -  the  ejecta  from 
Plinius  kind  of  covers  up  the  rilles  and  the 
annulus  around  Serenitatis. 

05  19  57  29    CMP  Now,  we're  getting  into  a  relatively  low  Sun. 

And  Serenitatis  is  a  lot  lighter  colored  than  the  - 
the  light  tan,  to  me.     And  then  you  -  in  the  low 
Sun,  you  look  out  into  Tranquillitatis ,  across 
Plinius,  and  that  demarcation  turns  out  to  be 
the  same  -  same  kind  of  gray-tan.     You  know,  it's 
a  darker  - 


Tape  93B/8 


CC  But  there  is  a  color  difference  between  Serenity 

and  Tranquillitatis ,  there? 

CMP  Yes.     There's  a  definite  color  difference  between 

Tra  -  and  it  almost  looks  like  -  If  you  could 
stand  on  color  alone,  the  color  from  Tranquillitatis 
extends  on  over,  and  covers  into  -  you  know,  kind 
of  drapes  over  the  edge  and  covers  up  part  Serenity. 

CC  Okay.     We  got  that.    Well,  that  should  be  all  of 

your  photos  there,  on  that  pass,  Ron. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.  (Laughter) 

CC  And,  Ron,  before  we  get  into  the  visual,  here,  we'd 

like  HIGH  GAIH,  AUTO. 

05  19  58  ho    CMP  Okay.     HIGH  GAIN  ~ 

CC  And,  can  you  give  me  -  - 

CIvIP  . . .  away  from  the  window ,  here . 

-  -  a  magazine  report  on  that  two  pictures? 

Okay.     We're  magazine  Lima  Lima.     And  it's  129. 

Yes,  we're  at  the  same  Sun  angle,  and  there's  no 
doubt  about  it  from  TaGq_uet  on  up  to  Mel  something 
or  other,  there's  a  group  of  small  rilles  in  there, 
and  those  rilles  have  got  ejected  material,  around 
and  up  and  over  the  rilles.    And  not  -  not  impact- 
t-yge  ejecta.     It's  got  to  be  a  volcanic  ejecta  of 
some  kind  up  and  around  there.     It ' s  a  dark  bro™  - 
a  darker  brown,  than  the  tan  of  Serenitatis. 

Roger.     You're  referring  to  the  Menulus  [sic] 
rilles,  there,  right  to  the  west  of  Tacq^uet , 
right?    That's  to  the  west  of  Tacquet?     Still,  it 
looks  like  it's  in  the  Serenitatis  -  Serenitatis 
Basin,  right  on  the  edge  of  it. 


CC 

c^^p 

CMP 


CC 


Tape  93B/9 


05  20  01  13    CC  Roger.     We  see -them. 

CMP  And  then  they  kind  of  st  -  they  stop  just  even 

with  Mel  whatever  it  is.     (Laughter)     Malinius  or 
something  like  that. 

CC  Kot  Melinius  or  Menelaus?     Pick  your  pick. 

CMP  Yes.  Okay. 

05  20  01  36    CC  You  see  a  ray  coming  out  of  Menelaus  going  through  - 

through  Bessel?     Is  that  one  of  Tycho's  rays? 

CMP  It  disappeared.     I  couldn't  -  couldn't  see  that  one. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Take  a  look  the  next  time  around. 

CC  That  was  my  q^uestion.     I  was  just  curious. 

CMP  Yes.     I  know  it  shows  it  on  the  map  there,  and  I 

haven't  really  got  a  good  -  a  good  clear  picture 
of  a  ray,  yet. 

CC  I'm  going  to  be  more  interested  to  see  it  -  - 

CMP  I'll  look  for  it  for  sure  the  next  time. 

CC  -  -  I  want  to  -  more  interested  to  see  if  you  can 

see  the  alleged  crater  Arabia  on  this  next  pass. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I've  heen  looking  for  that  every  pass. 


And  -  there's  a  lot  of  depressions  -  and  ridges 
and  -  hills  around  there.     It's  hard  to  -  see, 
you  don't  really  get  a  big  picture  view  of  it. 
You  get  a  little  piece  of  it  at  a  time.     And  I 
think,  in  order  to  really  con  -  convince  yourself 
that  you  got  something  there,  you're  going  to  have 
to  get  -  get  off  -  away  from  it.  And   

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

CMP  ***  D-Caldera  is  sure  a  depression.     Like  nothing 

I've  ever  seen  before. 


Tape  93B/10 


CC  Got  you.     You're  going  to  get  a  chance  to  get  some 

pictures  of  that  next  -  next  rev. 

CMP  Next  rev?     Okay,  they  ought  to  be  good  ones  be- 

cause the  Sun  angle  is  going  to  be  pretty  good. 
But,  at  this  point,  you  get  a  dark  tan,  kind  of 
a  mare-type  material  -  it's  in  mare-type  materials. 
And  then  it ' s  a  light  gray  down  in  the  D-Galdera 
itself.     Sure  looks  like  a  "d"  all  right.  But 
it's  a  light  gray  down  in  there.     And  then  it's 
got  bumps  that  stick  up,  and  the  bumps  themselves 
are  -  I  want  to  look  at  it  again  for  sure.  But 
I  get  the  impression  the  bumps,  themselves,  are 
the  light  tan  material. 

05  20  Ok  59    CC  Okay.     Understand.     The  bumps  are  light  tan. 

Right? 

CMP  Whereas,  down  -  Yes,  the  bumps  are  light  tan. 

And  down  between  the  bumps  that  are  down  in  the 
Caldera,  it  looks  like  a  rough  -  real  rough 
blocky  -  gray  material. 

CMP  Bob,  I  hope  you're  keeping  me  honest  on  the  Flight 

Plan.     I  got  my  head  out  the  window.     I  can't 
follow  the  Flight  Plan. 

CC  Affirmative.     All  you  got  is,  in  about  k  minutes, 

or  3  minutes,  now,  you  pick  up  orbital  science 
visuals  on  Copernicus.    And  we'll  just  stay  with 
you  on  those  orb  science  visuals  right  through 
Reiner  Geumna.    And  at  lU3:12,  you've  got  a  rather 
rapid  time,  you  might  want  to  q_uit  early.  You 
got  the  LOI  [sic]  canister  change.     Then  you  got 
a  F52.     So,  your  choice  on  that.     I'll  call  you 
right  at  143:12,  if  that's  what  you  want. 

05  20  06  13    CMP  Okay,  yes.     Give  me  a  call  right  there,  because  I 

got  to  get  ready  for  this  -  I'll  do  the  P52  first, 
so  you  all  can  see  it,  then  I  can  always  change 
that  canister. 

CC  Yes,  okay.     We'll  concur  on  that;  but  just  don't 

forget  it. 


CIvlP 


Okay. 


Tape  93B/11 


CC  Ron,  you're  coming  up  on  Copernicus;  I  might  read 

you  some  of  these  questions.     One  of  them  was, 
"study  the  floor  of  Copernicus,  and  compare  its 
material  to  that  on  the  walled  terraces."  The 
other  one  is,  "When  viewed  from  the  opposite  di- 
rection, is  there  an  extension  of  the  structure  in 
the  middle  central  peak?"     I  guess  that  we  refer 
to  that  as  what  might  he  a  dike  in  that  middle 
central  peak.     And  "What  is  the  nature  of  that 
structure?" 

CMP  Okay.     I  think  those  things  are  going  to  "be  kind 

of  hard  to  see.     But  we'll  try. 

CC  The  back  room  would  like  you  to  kind  of  concen- 

trate on  looking  on  that  dike,  if  it  is  at  all 
possible,  Ron.     Even  if  you  have  to  use  -  - 

CMP  Okay.  I'll   

CC  -  -  even  if  you  have  to  use  the  binoculars. 

CMP  -  -  get  the  ole  binocs ,  here.  Okay. 

05  20  08  25    CC  If  you  want  to  feel  for  some  scale  on  that,  Just 

a  reminder:  the  crater  is  about  3  kilometers  deep, 
and  the  central  peak  is  kOO  meters  high,  Ron. 

CMP  kOO  meters.  Okay. 

CMP  Is  this  Eratosthenes  I'm  passing  over  now?  I 

hope. 

CC  Yes.     You  should  be  just  about  over  Eratosthenes 

right  now. 

05  20  09  57    CMP  I  hope  it's  Eratosthenes  because  the  old  Sun's 

shining  right  on  my  rendezvous  light,  out  here. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  you  can't  see  anything  out  the  window. 

CMP  Ahhhhhh,  there's  Copernicus. 

CMP  And  I'll  tell  you  what.     I  think  we  -  need  more 

dayl ight  ( 1 aught  er ) . 


Tape  93B/12 


CC  Kind  of  tough,  huh? 

CMP  Yes,  especially  the  binocs  cut  off  -  they  must 

cut  off  too  much  light  or  something. 

CC  Okay,  we  understand  that.     Might  just  stick  with 

the  naked  eye  then  and  do  the  best  you  can,  I 
guess . 

CMP  Well,  I'm  trying  to  -  to  recall  what  Jack  said 

on  it,  and  what  I  see.     I'm  not  sure,  did  he  men- 
tion the  -  the  dark  part  to  the  south  -  on  the 
south  side  of  Copernicus?     In  other  words,  you 
can  see  albedoes  real  well,  and  there's  a  dark 
area  that  extends  maybe  -  oh,  a  half  a  crater 
diameter,  three-quarters  of  a  crater  diameter  to 
the  south,  and  then  it  kind  of  flows  down  in  - 
I  don't  know  -  I  don't  want  to  say  flows,  but  at 
least  it  carries  itself  doTO  -  down  the  crater 
wall  -  down  to  the  crater  floor.     And  this  is 
kind  of  in  the  south  maybe  from  6  -  or  let's  see, 
from  about  k:3Q  to  7:30,     And  then  the  rest  of 
the  crater  all  the  way  -  all  the  rest  of  the  way 
around  it,  you  can  see  light  albedo  step  all  away 
around  the  crater.     The  first  step  down  about  a 
fourth  of  the  way  down  in  the  crater  wall. 

05  20  13  31    CC  I  don't  recall  that,  but  sounds  good,  Ron, 


CMP 


Okay.  Unfortunately,  those  things  really  disappear 
fast . 


Roger.     Take  -  take  a  look  at  the  peaks  and  con- 
centrate on  that  mountain  in  the  center  of  the 
peaks,  if  you  will,  Ron. 

Okay.     Is  -  it's  already  passed  now  but  I  can 
recall  as  -  as  I  was  looking  at  it ,  the  peaks  - 
well,  seems  to  me  like  there's  four  and  they  have 
the  same  light  albedo  texture  as  the  -  not  texture, 
but  the  same  light  albedo  -  as  that  first  -  rings 
on  the  inner  wall  of  the  crater.     And  then  inter- 
spersed between  those  white  peaks  were  a  darker  - 
you  could  just  tell  it's  the  darker  -  albedo.  And 
you  coiildn't  tell  for  sure  -it's  not  part  of  the 
crater  floor,  it's  just  a  darker  albedo  inter- 
spersed in  there.     And  I  spent  -  oh,  half  my  time 


Tape  93B/13 


trying  to  acq^uire  the  thing  in  the  binocs.  And 
it  just  cuts  -  the  binocs  just  cut  down  the  light 
too  much. 


CC  Okay.     We'll  try  maybe  later  on  with  the  binocs 

on  Copernicus.     I  guess  you're  coming  up  in  the 
Kepler  area,  aren't  you  -  your  -  your  right  coming 
up  on  Kepler  B, 

CMP  Yes.     I  think  there  should  be  Kepler  B  right  out 

there  now. 

CMP  Let's  see  -  Yes,  that's  out  in  Oceanus  Procellarum, 

I  guess,  isn't  it? 

05  20  15  32    CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Yes,  and  then  Aristarchus  is  coming  up,  I  think, 

isn't  it?    No,  that's  Kepler. 

CC  I  think  Kepler  is  the  real  bright  one  with  many 

bright  rays  from  -  coming  out  it. 

CMP  Yes,  it's  got  a  -  got  a  lot  of  the  bright  rays 

on  it .     Kepler  D ,  and  must  be  another  one  down 
there.     They,  the  two  small  Keplers,  don't  show 
any  bright  rays  at  all.    Do  show  they're  -  they've 
bright  slopes  on  the  inner  walls.     The  rays  of 
Kepler  really  show  up  q^uite  markedly  in  the  earth- 
shine.     I  bet  -  I  bet  they  show  up  probably  better 
in  earthshine  than  they  do  -  otherwise.  Because 
I  think  earthshine  tends  to  bring  out  the  -  the 
albedo  differences  -  considerably. 

05  20  l6  55    CC  Why  don't  you  give  me  a  hack  when  you're  right 

over  Kepler ,  Ron? 

CMP  Okay,  will  do.     And  then  what's  directly  south  of 

Kepler,  there's  one  about  the  same  size  as  Kepler? 

CC  Encke  is  about  the  sajne  size  and  directly  south 

of  Kepler. 


Tape  93B/lk 


CMP  Yes,  that's  Encke.     Okay,  Encke. 

CMP  Encke  has  -  departing  from  the  west  -  Yes,  no,  I 

mean  departing  on  its  eastern  side  -  it's  either  - 
it's  a  light  -  I  don't  see  how  in  the  world  it 
can  have  only  one  ray,  but  that's  the  only  one  I 
can  see.     But  there's  a  light  streak  -  oh  about 
an  eighth  of  the  diameter  of  Encke;  and  it  goes 
out  to  the  east  a  little  ways  and  then  curves 
back  -  it  goes  out  to  the  east  -  oh,  about  three- 
quarters  of  the  crater  diameter,  and  then  it  es- 
sentially curves  back  to  the  northeast  and 
continues  on  out  for  another  crater  diameter. 

05  20  18  20    CC  Roger.     Good  show. 

CMP  That  might  be  -  that  might  be  the  margin  of  the 

highlands ,  there .     I'm  not  sure . 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Let's  see,  Reiner  Gamma  is  going  to  be  out  of 

window  3,  won't  it? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron.     Window  3  for  Reiner 

Gamma. 

CMP  Yes.     Okay.     Just  north  of  -  sure  can't  remember 

those  names  -  Kyber? 

CC  North  of  Kepler,  there? 

CMP  Kepler.  Yes, 

05  20  19  i+5    CMP  And  I'm  looking  out  window  3  now,  and  you  can  still 

see  those  rays.     They  must  be  coming  from  Kepler. 
They  go  way  on  up  north  toward  -  the  next  one 
is  -  is  -  - 

CC  Yes ,  did  you  see  them  going  up  toward  Marius ,  there? 

CMP  Yes,  there's  ...   zero  phase.     Yes,  I  can  see 

Aristarchus.     I  think  that  must  be  Aristarchus. 
Way  back  over  to  the  north. 

CC  Yes,  that's  -  that's  Aristarchus. 


Tape  93B/15 


C!-IP  Sure  

CC  That's  affirm. 

  yes,  yes. 


CMP 


05  20  20  31    CC  Can  you  see  anything  on  that  Marius  Rille  up 

there?    Or  is  that  too  far  up? 

CMP  Yes.     It  -  I've  sort  of  kind  of  looking  for  it. 

I  can  just  see  some  -  about  three  or  four  light 
spots  up  in  there.     But  that's  a  long  ways  away, 
you  know. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  It's  about  halfway  -  it's  about  halfway  to  the 

horizon.     Or  the  real  light  area.     Let's  see,  and 
you  can  see  Reiner  Gamma.     I  guess  Reiner  is  the 
crater  there.     ...     Isn't  there  a  big  crater  just 
before  you  get  to  it  -  - 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CMP    I  think.     And  then  Reiner  Gamma  -  Hey,  you 

know,  from  here  it  almost  looks  like  it's  the  - 
the  ejecta  from  a  crater,  because  (chuckle)  and 
then  continuing  from  the  bottom  of  the  -  bottom 
of  the  Gamma  is  a  -  again  a  lighter  albedo  that 
comes  down  toward  the  crater  Reiner  about  halfway 
between  the  two  of  them,  and  then  it  takes  off 
and  goes  perpendicular  to  -  to  the  line  between 
Reiner  and  Reiner  Gamma. 

05  20  21  51    CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

CMP 


CC 


And  that's  a  lighter  -  lighter  albedo  demarcation, 
there. 

Is  there  any  topographical  expression  associated 
with  brightness  -  with  the  brightness  of  Gamma? 


Tape  93B/16 


CMP  Well,  that's  what  it  -  is  -  is  very  hard  to  pick 

up.    Maybe  that's  what  the  -  what  I'm  describing 
here  -  is  going  perpendicular  to  the  -  to  the  two 
of  them.     I  got  to  check  and  see  if  that's  a  - 
know,  a  rise  from  a  relatively  flat  area  up  to  a 
kind  of  a  ~  a  hilly  terrain. 


you 


GC  Any  dark  deposits  associated  with  the  Gamma? 

Reiner  Gamma? 

CMP  Yes,  it's  -  the  Gamma,  itself,  is  -  is  dark.  Now, 

when  zero  -  zero  -  Hey,  I  think  we're  going  to  be 
lucky  -  zero  phase  is  going  to  go  right  through  it, 
But  there  are  dark  -  in  other  vrords ,  the  Gamma, 
itself  -  is  about  the  same  size  as  the  -  as  the  - 
the  full  extension  is  about  the  same  size  as  the 
crater  Reiner.     And  then  half  of  a  crater  diameter 
on  the  inside  of  that  -  and,  of  course,  in  the 
Gamma- type  shape  is  a  dark  type  material.  Zero- 
phase  is  going  right  through  it  right  now.  By 
gosh,  it  didn't  blot  out  the  dark  at  all. 

05  20  23  k6    CC  Got  any  -  any  more  thoughts  about  what  it  is? 

CMP  The   

GC  Do  the  light-colored  markings  to  the  north  look 

the  same,  Ron? 

CMP  You  know,  you  get  -  you  mean  off  toward  the  Marius 

Hills  area? 

CC  Yes,  that's  right. 

CMP  There's  a  -  the  only  light  -  yes,  the  only  light- 

colored  stuff  that  you  can  see  -  I  don't  see  any- 
thing off  towards  the  Marius  Hills  on  the  thing. 
You  see  it  right  around  Reiner  Gamma  itself.  And 
intermixed  within  that  is  that  dark  -  it's  a  dark 
anniilus ,  except  the  annulus  is  on  the  inside  of 
the  white.    And  it  looks  like  -  I  don't  know  if 
your  eyes  deceive  you  in  this  darkness  or  not,  but 
it  sure  looks  the  light-colored  stuff  is  raised 
up  with  respect  to  the  dark.     In  other  words,  the 
dark  almost  looks  like  the  interior  of  a  crater  - 
crater  rim,  interior  of  a  crater  wall,  you  know  -  - 


Tape  93B/1T 


05  20  2k  58    CC  Roger. 

CMP  -  -  with  the  light  material  around  it .    Now  that ' s 

what  it  looks  like  in  the  -  in  the  darkness.  And 
then  on  the  -  let's  see  ~  southwestern  rim  of  it, 
it  almost  looks  like  you've  got  a  breach  of  the 
dark  albedo  stuff  going  out  to  the  southeast  corner 
of  it  in  two  spots.     Okay,  then  the  light  stuff 
turns  into  -  how  do  you  put  it  -  a  darker  swirly 
looking  type  stuff  as  you  continue  on  west  of 
Reiner  Gamma.     It  crosses  kind  of  a  wrinkle  ridge, 
I  can  see  a  wrinkle  ridge  down  there,  now.  It 
crosses  the  wrinkle  ridge  with  the  no  -  no  apparent 
change  in  albedo,  anyhow,  as  it  crosses  the  ridge. 

CC  Roger.     Got  you,  and  I  think  I've  got  the  ridge  on 

my  map.     I  think  we've  got  you. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Still  -  still  think  it  might  be  a  ray  from  one  of 

those  craters  -  - 

05  20  26  09    CMP  That's  the  last  of  the  -  you  know,  it's  kind  of 

associated  with  its  own  little  thing.     It  doesn't 
look  like  it's  a  ray.     It  doesn't  look  like  a  ray, 
in  other  words,  it  doesn't  thin  out  in  different 
parts  of  it,  like  a  ray  does. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  It  looks  like  it  was  a  lot  thicker  than  -  than  a 

ray. 

CMP  Yes.     Okay,  this  must  be  -  what  -  Riccioli,  I 

guess?    The  big  crater?    About  - 

05  20  27  03    CMP  Now. 

CC  You're  just  coming  up  on  Ricci  -  Grimaldi  and  you 

got  to  go  through  Hevelius,  first  of  all,  and  then 
you  get  into  Grimaldi  and  Riccioli. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  Hevelius,  then,  is  the  one  I'm  passing 

right  now.  Hevelius  is  showing  up  real  clear.  You 
can  see  the  slumping  of  the  crater  walls  coming 


Tape  93B/18 


down  there.     It's  a  fairly  old-type  crater  "because 
you  don't  see  any  -  any  rays  associated  with  it. 
Although  the  -  the  slumping  is  not  completely 
degraded.     There's  a  flat  floor  with  a  central 
peak  on  it.     The  central  peak  has  the  same  albedo  - 
it's  a  lighter  albedo  -  no,  the  same  albedo  texture 
as  the  walls  -  as  the  west  wall. 

05  20  28  20    CMP  We're  passing  over  a  -  well,  generally  a  hilly 

type  of  terrain,  and  then  just  before  we  get  into 
Grimaldi  area,  it  looks  like  we're  out  into  a 
plains-type  material,  again,  interspersed  with  a 
hujumocky-type.     I  guess  that  huramocky  -  is  - 
hummocky  stuff  is  associated  with  Grimaldi. 


CC 


Roger.  Looks  like  you're  just  passing  a  little  bit 
to  the  west  of  Grimaldi  now.  You  concur  with  that? 
About  right  over  Riccloli? 


CMP  It  doesn't  look  like  Grimaldi  to  me  -  I  guess  it 

is,  though. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  probably  ought  to  think  about  -  If 

it's  getting  kind  of  dark  there  for  seeing  or  any- 
thing, you  might  consider  getting  in  the  P52 , 
although  you're  a  couple  more  minutes  -  still  a 
couple  minutes  left  on  it.     If  you  can  see  back 
at  anything  within  Reiner  Gamma  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

  from  this  angle,  it  would  be  good;  otherwise, 

if  it's  out,  you  ought  to  just  consider  the  52. 

05  20  29  h8    CMP  Ah,  she's  pointing  in  the  wrong  direction. 

CC  Okay.     That  was  some  good  stuff,  Ron.     Just  don't 

hesitate  to  keep  talking  on  that.     We  can  sort  it 
all  out  when  we  get  down. 

CI'IP  Okay.     Well,  the  bright  -  I'm  looking  out  window  1 

now.     Must  be  out  to  the  north  I  guess,  and  there's 
two  very  bright  craters,  in  there,  just  crossing 
some  rilles  that  run  north  and  south.     There's  a 
little  bit  of  a  mare  material  out  in  there.  I 
wish  I  knew  what  that  crater  was.     Well,  I  better 
get  going  on  P52,  I  guess. 


Tape  93B/19 


Cf^P  {Humming  -  "Deck  the  Halls") 

05  20  3^+  IT    CMP  Old  heaters  sure  work  on  these  optics.  They're 

always  nice  and  warm  when  you  take  them  out. 

CC  Well,  Roger.     Understand  you're  changing  the  LOH  - 

LiOH  canister  now. 

CMP  (Laughter)     No,  the  optics. 

CC  Okay,  good. 

CMP  Tele  -  yes  -  telescope.     When  you  -  you  take  the 

telescope  out,  it's  got  a  heater  on  it  in  there  and 
it  keeps  it  nice  and  warm.     Okay,  CMC,  FREE.  Do 
a  P52,  option  3.     Okay,  then  back  to  P20. 
Okay,  this  time  we  will  not  forget  to  go  to  AUTO. 

CMP  Okay,  computer,  find  me  a  star.     ***  out  there. 

Menkar.     Okay,  take  me  to  Menkar.     Oh I 

05  20  36  03    CMP  Looks  like  Menkar. 

05  20  37  06    CMP  Okay.     Canopus.     Canopus.     Okay,  take  me  to 

Canopus . 

CMP  And  Canopus  is  as  bright  as  all  get  out. 

CC  Just  like  the  simulator,  huh? 

CMP  «**  bright  that  -  brighter  than  any  star  we've 

ever  had  in  the  simiilator.  ***  so  bright  it  almost 
blanks  out  the  crosshair.     Got  Saturn. 

CC  Yes,  hope  it's  not  Saturn,  huh? 

CMP  (Laughter)    Me,  too. 

CC  Well,  we'll  know  in  a  minute  when  we  look  at  your 

NOUN  05. 

CMP  Oh,  man,  okay. 

CC  Nothing  wrong  with  that  one. 

CMP  That's  pretty  good. 


Yes.     We'll  buy  that. 


Think  that's  a  good  one? 

Okay,  Ron,  you  can  go  ahead  and  torq^ue. 

Okay.    We'll  torque  at  19 . 

Good  show,  huh? 

mow  my  new  -  bet  that's  in  there,  isn't  it  -  unit 
vec-tors  of  Saturn.     Would  that  be  in  here,  somewhert 

Say  again,  Ron? 

These  unit  vectors  of  Saturn,  aren't  they  in  my  - 
planet  unit  vectors  -  yes,  stars  -  oh,  here  we 
go. 

Okay,  we  just  got  a  beautiful  picture  of  the  Earth 
from  the  -  from  the  Rover.    Just  spectacular 
picture  of  the  Earth. 

Oh,  really? 

Yes. 

Great . 

Just  beautiful.     Old  Fendell's  been  hunting  for  all 
night,  but  he  finally  found  it.     It's  just 
beautiful. 

(Laughter) 

Ron,  we're  5  minutes  from  LOS  here.  Everything's 
looking  great.    Just  -  you  have  to  finish  off 
your  checklist  on  that  TM,  P20  and  CMC  MODE  back 
to  AUTO.    And  then  just  a  reminder  on  that  LOH  [sic] 
canister:     if  you'd  go  back  and  pick  that  up,  we'd 
appreciate  it. 

Okay,  we'll  get  that  one-     I'm  going  to  try  and 
see  if  I  can  find  Saturn  here. 


Tape  93B/21 


CC  Okay. 

CC  This  VOX  mode  is  just  great.     We're  sitting  here 

following  what  you're  doing.     You  don't  even  have 
to  talk  tc  us.     It's  really  great. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I  think  it's  great,  too. 

CC  Your  voice  is  so  clear  -  -    Oh,  shucks.     Now  the 

fuel  is  -  - 

CC  You  sound  like  you're  in  the  next  room. 

CMP  Oh,  really?    You  know,  that's  funny  "because  I  really 

can't  hear  myself  and  the  -  you  know,  on  the 
intercom. 

05  20  hi  28    CC  You  sound  -  you  sound  -  - 

CMP  Well,  I'll  have  to  look  ...   

CC  -  -  louder  in  my  earphone  than  in  the  simulator, 

when  you're  down  at  the  Cape,  or  over  here  across 
the  way.  You're  just  loud  and  clear,  even  better 
than  down  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)    That's  good.     Well,  it's  beyond  the 

field  of  view.     So  we'll  have  to  catch  it  another 
time. 

CC  Yes,  that's  too  bad. 

CC  We're  going  to  pick  you  up  at  litUrlO.     I'll  be 

losing  you  in  a  minute  or  so.     And  1^1+:  10  has  a 
good  back  side. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  you  might  check  your  ZPN  settings  when  you  - 

your  sensors  -  when  you  get  a  chance  on  the  back 
side  here.     They're  still  not  giving  much  good 
data. 


CMP 


Okay.  Yes,  it  looks  like  I'll  have  a  little  time 
this  time,  so  I'll  do  it. 


Tape  93B/22 

CC 

CMP 
CC 

05  20  1+2  50  CMP 

CC 
CMP 

05  20  1+3  5^  CMP 
CC 

05  20  hh  25  CMP 
05  20  1+5  09  CMP 

05  21  03  XX 


Roger.  Just  don't  let  them  tear  you  away  from  the 
window,  though. 

( Laught  er )     Okay . 

And  we've  dumped  the  data  from  the  last  couple 
of  back-side  revs  and  you  sound  real  good,  Ron. 

Okay,  hey,  real  fine.     You  know  the  guys  at  lunar 
surface  don't  even  have  any  ZPN,  you  know.  They 
left  it  up  here . 

Roger .     { Laughter ) 

I  didn't  even  -  I  didn't  know  that  until  they  left. 
Okay,  the  old  LiOH  canister,  let's  see  -  13  into  A, 
and  13  must  be  in  A-9  then.  (Humming) 

Oh,  there's  old  13.     Take  ll+  out,  so  we  -  put  ... 
in  the  bottom. 

Hey,  Ron.     We  just  had  a  discussion  here  and  your 
point  is  well  taken,  and  why  don't  you  Just  go 
ahead,  if  you  want  to,  and  take  the  ZPN  sensors, 
the  yellow  plug  ones,  off  and  take  them  off  for 
the  evening,  if  you  like. 

Hey,  that  sounds  like  an  excellent  idea.  Thank 
you. 

Okay,  we're  11  -  out  -  picked  nice  small  ones,  I 
guess.     Hone  of  them  have  been  stuck  so  far. 


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Tape  9U/I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

05  19  30  3h    CC  Okay,  give  me  a  range  and  bearing,  please. 

CDR-EVA    BoTd    you  vant  another  sample  of  the  dark  mantle 
here?     Could  you  use  that? 

CC  Yes ,  we  want  -  As  soon  as  you  get  into  the  dark 

mantle  -  We're  estimating  it's  something  like 
4.34,  4.5,  somewhere  in  that  vicinity. 

LI^-EVA    We're  there. 

CC  Okay.     We're  ready  for  another  one,  then. 

LMP-EVA    We're  there.     Now,  let's  -  If  you  can  -  Okay,  right 
over  there,  and  mayhe  I  can  get  a  rock  with  it. 
bee  that  batch  of  rocks  there? 

CDR-EVA    Right  here? 

LlvIP-EVA    Whoa      Yes.     Swing  it.     Whoa,  now  swing  back  over. 
Little  more,  little  more.     Whoa.     Little  more. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  -  can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-EVA    Now,  if  you  go  forward. 

CDR-EVA  Can  you  reach  it? 

MF'-EVA  Hold  it.     Right  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob;  082,  5.O,  and 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-LMP  And  CDR  is  3.85  and  about  TO  percent  and  no  flags. 

CC  Ckay.     Thank  you,  Geno . 

LMP-EVA  I  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  You  got  it?  Okay? 


Tape  9W2 


LMP-EVA  I  got  the  rock.  1  got  the  rock,  and  there's  soms 
dirt  in  there.  Maybe  I'd  better  get  a  little  hit 
more  dirt . 


CDR-EVA  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    You  don't  have  any  trouble  getting  dirt.     Can  you 
see  in  there?     Is  there  -  - 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA  -  -  Much  soil? 
Cm-E'JA    Oh,  a  little  bit  

LMP-EVA    Okay,     I'll  get  -I'll  get  this  soil. 

CDR-EVA    Couple  teaspoons full.     Twenty-eight  Echo,  Bob. 

CC  Say  again  there,  IT- 


05  19  32  Ik    CDR-EVA    Twenty-eight  Echo. 


CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  that's  primarily  a  rock  fragment.  Jack's 
getting  a  soil  fragment  -  soil  sample  vith  it. 


CC  Copy . 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  look  at  the  wrinkles  over  there  on  the 
North  Massif. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  there's  no  question  that  there  is  apparent 

lineations  all  over  these  Massifs,  in  a  variety  of 
directions.     Hey,  look  at  how  that  Scarp  goes  up 
beside  there.     There's  a  distinct  change  in  texture. 


CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    As  a  matter  of  fact,  lineations  are  not  present 

on  the  Scarp,  that  we  can  see,  where  it  crosses  the 
North  Massif.  There  is  no  sign  of  those  lineations 
on  there. 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  man;  yes.     1  can  see  what  you're  talking  about 
now. 


Tape  9hh/3 


Llv[p-E\'A    Look  over  by  Hanover. 

CDR-E^;A    It  looks  like  the  Scarp  overlays  the  North  Massif, 
doesn't  it? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-F/A  Okay.     This  last  one  vas  29  Echo. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     And  that's  the  soil. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  now  I  need  to  get  in  that  ba«.     That's  firm. 

CDR-EVA    Here's  another  one.     You're  going  to  -  don't  lose 
those. 

LMP-EVA     I  won't.     I'll  put  it  down. 
05  19  33  28    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  we  are  rolling. 
CG  Copy  that. 

LI4P-EVA    And  pray  for  me.  Bob,  that  I  don't  lose  my  camera. 

Okay.     Hanover  is  very  -  quite  a  ways  up  the  slope. 
I  don't  tnlnk  we'd  have  gotten  to  it,  as  ve  planned 
that  time.     But  the  appear-ance  you  have  of  the 
Scarp  -  North  Massif  contact  is  one  of  the  Scari; 
being  smoother  textured,  less  eratered,  and  cer- 
tainly less  lineated.     And  I  wouldn't  be  a  bit  sur- 
prised if  it's,  as  Gene  says,  younger. 


CC 


Okay,  Jack.     Copy  that. 


CDR-EVA    But  that  goes  -  It's  not  just  the  -  it's  not  iu^.t 
this  slope,  it's  the  materials  on  the  other  side 
of  the  Scarp,  on  the  west  side. 

LMP-EVA     Okay,   I'm  going  to  ha-^e  to  really  ease  up  on  pic- 
tures.    I  forgot  to  give  them  a  frame  count. 

^^s-     We  didn't  get  a  frame  count.     You  want  to 
give  us  a  frame  count  there.  Jack? 

mP-INA    Well,  Bob.     The  problem  is  I  -  if  I  -  every  time  I 
take  my  hand  off,  my  camera  loosens  up  again. 


Tape  9^A/i+ 


CC  Okay;  I  copy  that.     And  our  estimate  is  that  if 

you  kind,  of  go  "between  50  and  100  meters  "between 
frames ,  we ' 11  make  it . 

CDR-ET/A    Boy,  I  tell  you.     Are  those  Massifs  getting  to  look 
"big  now.    Holy  Smoly. 

LMP-EVA    That  frame  at  the  LRV  sample  was  about  115. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  tell  you,  that  Scarp  looks  nice  over  there, 

too,  doesn't  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

MP- EVA    Okay,  we're  hack  down  in  our  old  friend,  the  dark 
mantle.     And  I  think  the  zero  phase  point  is  not 
as  "bright  as  it  was.     Passing  a  small  crater,  hut 
the  hlock  population  is  still  way  down  there  in 
about  -  Whoops,  watch  that  one  -  1  percent. 

CC  And,  17,  for  your  benefit,  we're  showing  you  with 

very  good  net  mobility  rates  here;  and  things  look- 
ing quite  good. 

LMP-EVA    Thank  you.     Gene's  doing  a  great  job. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  tell  you,  it  takes  all  your  time  to  drive, 
though.     You  look  aroiand,  and  you're  in  a  hole. 

05  19  36  12    LMP-EVA    Okay  here's  another  small  crater  -  instant  (?)  rock, 

with  the  same  little  pits  and  a  spattering  of 
glass  holding  the  pit  materials  together.  None 
of  these  -  none  of  the  glass  linings  look  very 
coherent.  Bob.     They  mainly  just  seem  to  be  a 
sprinkling  of  glass  that's  -  some  -  helping  or 
coating  the  instant  rock. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    We  still  don't  have  -  The  craters  at  about  10  to 
15  meters  in  diameter  seem  to  have  somewhat  more 
blocky  material  in  their  rims.     But  they're  not 
clearcut  blocky  rim  craters.     And  here's  one  that's 
probably  50  meters  across  that  has  a  -  a  fair  num- 
ber of  blocks  in  the  bottom.     Looks  like  it  might 
have  just  about  gotten  down  to  where  the  gabbro 
is  -  starts  to  be  abundant  again. 


Tape  9'^A/^ 


GC  Okay;  I  copy  on  that  one.  Jack. 

CDR-F/A     ...   start   ...  12  o'clock  -  12  o'clock;  and  I'm 
going  to  work  my  way  up  to  Hole-in-the-Wall  and 
from  there  on  up,  right? 

IMP- EVA    That ' s  good. 

CDR-M:a    Take  a  long,  easy  irurnout . 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Got  Hole-in- the- Wall,  Bob.  It's  a  very  long,  very 
subtle,  Tery  gentle  slope.  We'll  just  have  to  get 
some  more  vords  when  we  get  there. 


CC 

cc 


Okay;  we're  anxiously  awaiting  them. 

How  about  a  range  and  bearing  while  you're  at  it 


Cm-WIA    Yes.     I've  been  taJxliig  10  or  12  clicks  most  of  the 
time . 

05  19  37  58    CDR-EYA    Okay,   ...   ^.6  and  k.Q. 

CC  Copy  k.g  on  the  range, 

CDR-EVA    And  about  ~  20  to  22  amps  inost  of  the  time. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  we're  losing  a  little  bit  of  LOW  GAIN  there, 
Geno. 

CDR-EVA     Yes . 

L!^-EVA     I  think  you  need  to  tilt  it  up  a  little.  Probably 
undershooting  the  Earth.     I  don't  know. 

CDR-E^/A    Well,  our  pitch  angle  changes  all  the  time.  That's 
the  problem.     Bob,  I  have  been  within  10  to  20  de- 
grees of  you  the  whole  time. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  we're  not  in  light  mantle,  I  don't  think. 
Maybe  we  are» 

CDR-EVA    I  think  we  are.  Jack. 


Tape  9W6 

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CDR-EVA 
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LMP-EVA 
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LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

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CDR-EVA 


Yes,  I  guess  we  are. 

I  think  we  are.    According  to  my  geology  map  . . . 

I  guess  we  are.     Gosh,  I  was  going  to  say  the 
craters  are  white  -  whiter  than  they  have  "been. 
So,  we're  hack  in  it.    And  -  - 

I  think  -  - 

-  -  even  the  phase  point's  brighter,  too. 

I  think  that  place  where  we  had  those  small, 
blocky  craters  was  within  the  dark  mantle.     I  - 
They're  not  evident  here  in  the  lighter  stuff. 

Yes ,  yes . 

Boy,  is  that  getting  big. 
Whoo-ee ! 
Hold  on. 

Whoooee !  Oh,  boy,  that  really  gives  me  a  strange 
feeling  (laughter). 

Gives  me  a  strange  feeling  too.     Those  are  not 
intentional. 

I  understand. 

I'm  not  sure  I've  got  enough  guts  to  make  them 
intentional.     Man  everything's  getting  to  look 
big  the  closer  you  get.     Hole-in-the-Wall  looks 
more  promising,  though.  Bob. 

Yes,  I  don't  think  that's  going  to  be  ar^  problem 
until  we  get  up  and  look  back.     Oh,  man,  what  a 
trip  this  is  going  to  be.  Golly. 

That  vent  cooling  is  just  about  right,  isn't  it. 

No,  it's  just  about  warm  for  me. 

Yes. 

Bob,  is  my  PLSS  cooling  working  all  right? 


Tape  9^A/7 


CC 


Roger.     It  looks  like  It's  working  to  us, 


CDR-E^/A  Okay. 

LMP-EV'A    Bob,  I'm  not  -  The  rock  fragments  look  -  still 

look  like  gabbro.     The  craters  tend  to  have  white 
walls  and  white  rims,  which  they  don't  have  in  the 
dark  ~  mantle  area,     Ttie  block  population  is  way 
down,  1  percent  or  less.     However,  the  bigger  cra- 
ters do  have  more  blocks;  but  nowhere  does  that 
population  seem  get  above  about  5  percent.  And 
that's  on  the  walls  and  the  rims  of  the  craters, 
say  bigger  than  15  meters.     There's  one  probably 
20  meters  in  diameter  that  has  some  blocks  on  it. 

CDR-E^'A    Have  you  seen  Kemo?     I  think  Jlemo  is  right  over 

there,  if  I'm  not  mistaken.     It's  -  I  don't  know. 

LI^-E^A    Nemo  will  be  hard  to  see.     But,  yes,  it's  probablv 
that  one  right  in  there.     Or  back  here.     There's  ^ 
one  back  here. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  pretty  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  well  -  Yes,  that's  closer  to  Scarp.  You're 

probably  -  it's  probably  right  off  your  wing  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  straight  ahead  and  then  I'm  going 
to  make  a  left  turn. 

05  19  Ul  10     LMP-EVA    Okay.     We're  looking  at  Lara  -  Now,  Lara  -  I  c.u. 

see  blocks  in  the  northwest  rim  of  Lara.     At  lea-=;t. 
It's  rugged  terrain;  and  it  looks  like  blocky 
terrain.     One  spot  -  is  all  I  see.     It  looks"  like 
it  may  be  a  couple  hundred  meters  in  average  di- 
ameter.    On  -  It  starts  about  -  maybe  three-quarters 
of  the  way  up  the  wall  and  goes  right  up  to  the  rim. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  Hole-in-the-Wall  seems  to  be  a  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  look  at  that.     Look  at  that  crater!! 

CDR-EVA    Right  there?  Yes. 

LMP-E\'A    That  pit  -  that  central  pit  goes  down  about  half 

the  depth  of  the  crater,   and  the  crater  is  a  fresh 


Tape  9W8 


3-meter  crater.     That's  -  It  almost  was  a  cylin- 
drical pit.     Hey,  Bob,  Hole-in-the-Wall  is  a  - 
is  just  a  step  -  headed  down  to  the  south  or 
southeast  on  the  Scarp.     It's  a  -  Scarp  is  just 
about  what  I  think  we  all  expected  it  to  be.  It's 
very  rolling  and  relatively  smooth.     I  don't  really 
see  any  outcrops  exposed  anywhere  out  here  to  the  - 
to  the  south. 


LMP-EVA    No.     You  see,  now  there's  station  3  area  right  up 
there . 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  maybe  that  -  set  of  -  see  that  bright 
bigger  crater  over  there  to  the  right  of  Lara? 
That's  probably  a  good  place  for  station  3. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  way  over  there.     Yes.     Okay,  we're  going  to 
find  out  something  very  shortly. 

LMP-EVA  It  doesn't  look  very  rooky.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  No . 

LMP-EVA  . . . 

CC  How  about  bearing  and  range,  guys? 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'll  give  it  to  you  Just  as  soon  as  I  make 
my  turn.     It's  not  too  far  -  100  meters  - 

LMP-EVA    Are  -  are  you  -  are  you  going  to  turn  over  that  or 
go  on  closer  -  - 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  going  right  up  straight  ahead  and  then  go 
on  to  the  inside  of  that  place. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     That's  more  than  100  meters. 

05  19  h3  08    CDR-EVA    Yes.     I'll  -  08I  and  5.6. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    There's  the  -  Now  the  craters  are  getting  very, 
very  light  colored  -  in  the  rims  and  walls . 


Tape  9^A/9 

CDR-EVA  You  notice  when  we're  in  the  light  mantle  looking 
at  the  scarp,  at  this  angle,  it  loses  some  of  its 
high  albedo? 

LMP-EYA    Yes.     Yes.     I  think  we're  getting  -  - 

CDR-EVA    We've  got  a  long  depression  to  go  around. 

LI4P-EVA    Your  eyes  get  used  to  it. 

Cm~EVA    Okay,  Jack,  we  got  to  watch  it  because  I  got  to  go 
around  a  long  depressions.     That's  a  crater  over^ 
there . 

LMP-EVA    On  the  right,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  how  -  can  get  over  there  to  - 
LMP-EVA     I  think  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  may  have  to  go  up  over  there.     I  can't  go  down 
that  hole.     That  one's  not  going  to  make  it. 

LMP-EVA    Wliat's  your  pitch? 

CDR-EVA    Let's  go  back  here.     We  can't  get  there.  I'm 
going  to  go  over  here. 

LMP-EVA  What  was  your  pitch  then,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA  Oh,   ...  primarily.     I  can't  go  there. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  I  think  you're  right. 

CDR-EVA  We'll  go  up  this  gentle  slope.     See  what's  on  top. 

CDR-EVA  Okay .     Let  me  get  my  . . . 

05  19  hk  17    LMP-EVA    We  made  a  turn  to  the  south  a  little  bit  at  OBl 

and  5.7.     Are  you  going  to  try  to  drive  up  there? 


CDR-EVA     I  don't  think  we're  going  to  have  any  choice. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Looks  to  me  like  right  on  the  -  jusx  to  the 
left  of  that   


Tape  9W1O 

CDR-ET/A    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    -  -  white  crater  is  a  -  or  even  right  like  you're 
headed  now  and  then  veer  off  to  the  right. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Find  out  how  this  climbs  in  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  think  you're  all  right.  That   

05  19  hh  U7    CDR-EVA    And,  Bob,  I'm  starting  up  the  scarp  at  081,  6.6, 

and  5.7. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that,  Geno. 

LMP-EVA    This  is  the  first  tongue(?)  of  the  scarp. 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  even  think  the  Rover  kiows  it's  going 
uphill.  I've  got  about  3  -  7  or  8  amps.  See 
what's  on  top  here. 

LMP-EVA    You're  making  alDout  8-8  clicks. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  full  bore. 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  tell  you,  this  Rover  doesn't  know  it's 
going  up  the  hill. 

LMP-EVA    Looks  to  me  like  you  may  be  able  to  head  just  like 
you're  going. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Hey,  Bob,  we'll  make  it. 

LMP-EVA    And  get  down   

05  19        25    CDR-EVA    Yes.     We  will  make  it.    ...     Get  my  antenna  adjusted. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Whatever  makes  up  the  light  mantle  is  -  in  - 
at  least,  the  incident  rock  that  it  forms  is  much 
lighter  than  anything  we  see.     Those  fragments 
probably  -  are  30  percent  lighter  than  any  frag- 
ments we  see  on  the  dark  mantle.     And  that's  around 
the  fresh  craters.     But  it  is  not  blocky.  Bob, 
are  you  still  reading? 


Tape  9W1I 


CC 


Roger.     Read  you  loud  and  cle 


ar . 


LMP-E^/A    Okay,  I  just  wanted  to  make  sure  my  antenna's 
working 

CC  Roger. 

05  19  h6  25     CDR-EVA    We're  doi  nsr  «  "ini-n^  ■ 

/A     we        uoing  a  little  zig-zag  navigation.     I'm  - 

literally  came  up  a  slope  at  about  a  heading  of 
240.     We  couldn't  get  through  the  actual  turn  to 
the  south  because  there  is  a  big  crater  right  at 
the  foot  of  it.     So  we're  just  making  our  way 
through  some  relatively  local  undulating  slopes 
that  get  pretty  steep,  but  it  seems  to  be  no 
problem. 

LI4P-EVA    Yes,  I  think  we're  in  good  shape.     Bob,  I  can't  - 
there  are  not  any  blocks  big  enough  to  really  nake 
a  statement  about  what  the  rock  is.     But  it  -  it 
really  doesn't  look  like  gabbro  anymore. 


CC 


Okay.     Copy  that. 


LKP-EVA     It  doesn't  have  that  - 


CC 


LMP- EVA 


And  a  reminder  that  eventually  you're  going  to 
have  to  turn  to  the  south  a  little  bit  to  pick  up 
the  final  thing  at  the  -  station  2. 

We're  not  on  top  of  that  scarp,  yet.  We're  still 
in  the  Hole-in-the-Wall  rim. 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that, 


Bob,  as  far  as  lineatlons  in  the  soil  or  on  the 
surface  that  are  observable  at  this  range,  I  don't 
i  don't  see  any.     I  think  there  may  be  a  finer 
raindrop  pattern  on  the  light  mantle  than  maybe 
there  was  out  on  the  dark.     But  that's  an  awfully 
hard  judgment  to  make. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP- EVA    How  you  doing,  Geno? 


Tape  9W12 


CDR-EVA    Doing  fine,  Bob.     We've  slowed  down  "between  about 
5  to  8  -  maybe  5  to  10  clicks  most  of  the  time. 
I'm  going  to  head  right  up  there,  I  think.  Get 
around  this  crater. 


LMP-E^'^A    Pretty  healthy  roll  you're  going  to  have  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  going  to  head  more  straight  up  the  hill. 
Once  I  get  up  on  top,  I'll  be  all  right.  I'm 
going  to  head  down  in  this  hole  and  then  up  that 
way. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  mind  pitch,  but  I  sure  don't  like  roll. 
LMP-EVA    I  don't  either. 

CDR-EVA    Now  I'm  going  to  head  straight  up  -  I'm  going  to 
head  straight  up  that  slope  right  there.  Okay. 

05  19  ^8  kg    LJvIP-EVA    Bob,  I  still  -  It  looks  like  maybe  the  large  frag- 
ments in  here  are  still  crystalline.     They  have 
white  zap  pits  on  them.     But  they  do  not  yet  really 
resemble  the  gabbro. 


CC  Okay,  Jack.     Copy  that.     Give  us  a  hack  when  you 

get  up  on  top  of  the  scarp  there. 

mP-EVA    Okay . 

CMP-EVA    Let  me  tell  you,  Bob,  I've  got  to  go  cross-slope 
some  of  the  time  because  the  Rover  is  really 
working  to  go  uphill  now. 


CC  All  right. 

CDR-EVA    But  we're  almost  there. 

LMP-EVA    As  I  look  up  the  scarp  to  the  west,  there  are 

some  big  blocks  scattered  around  on  our  horizon; 
but,  again,  I  would  guess  that  we're  not  dealing 
with  more  than  -  2  or  3  percent  total  coverage  of 
blocks  in  here,  at  that. 


CDR-EVA 


Well,  I  think,  for  the  most  part  -  for  the  most 
part ,  we ' re  on  top ...  -  - 


Tape  9W13 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  we're  -  we're  on  top. 
05  19  k9  53    CDR-EV^A    Bob,  we're  at  7.8  -  correction  078,  7.2,  and  6.2. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  where  was  Nansen  with  respect  to  those  tracks 
up  there? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  they  never  really  had  any  good  tracks  pinned 
down,  I  don't  think,  on  that  -  You'll  he  able  to 
see  Nansen,  1  think  soon  as  you  get  over  this  hill. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you,  when  we  look  back,  that's  goin^- 
to  be  quite  a  sight  if  we  can  see  into  that  Sunt 
We  have  been  coming  uphill.     Well,  I'd  say  this  is 
the  -  this  is  the  last  straw  to  the  top.     And  is 
she  working!     Come  on,  baby. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  think  you  bear  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  try  to  get  over  along  the  base  of  the 
massif  now. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Head  towards  that  track  area  there,  anyway 

There  are  a  lot  of  boulder  tracks  coming  down  from 
the  blue-gray  rocks,  Bob.     We'll  see  whether  or  not 
we  re  going  to  get  to  those  tracks  at  Nansen,  or 
we  might  want  to  move  over  to  the  track  and  see  if 
we  can  find  the  boulder  that  made  them. 


CC 


Okay;  if  they're  In  the  vicinity,  it  might  be  a 
nice  idea  -  - 


LMP-EVA    But  there's  no  question  where  those  tracks  come 
from. 


CC 


And  we  gather  you're  slowing  down  to  about  5  clicks 
now,  coming  up  this  last  rise. 

CDR-LTA    Yes,  I'm  back  up  to  about  7  to  10  now.  Bob.  That's 
the  slowdown  -  is  because  that's  about  all  It  wiil 
take . 


Tape  9UA/1U 


LMP-En/A 


CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
05  19  52  18  IMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


Bob,  I  have  the  impression  that  there  is  a  dipping 
zone  of  blue-gray  outcrops  or  block  concentrations 
up  there  on  the  Massif  that  trends  from  the  high 
point  just  beneath  the  Earth  -  cross-slope  -  and 
probably  is  -  at  least  the  apparent  depth  is  - 
oh,  I  don't  know,  10  or  15  degrees  to  the  east. 
It  looks  like  those  outcrops  may  match  up  along 
that  trend. 

Okay . 

Jack,  I'm  going  to  head  right  along  this  ridge 
because  I  think  that's  the  depression  we  were 
talking  about. 

Yes,  That's  Nans en  down  there. 
Right  -  Where  are  you  looking? 
I  think  J  right  below  - 

I  think  you're  right.     I  think  that's  it.  Let 
me  get  over  here,  and  then  I'll  head  a  little  bit 
to  the  south. 

Yes,  we're  a  little  more  west,  I  think,  than  we 
intended  to  be. 

Yes,  I  think  you're  right. 

Bob,  7  -  Wait  a  minute  -  7.8  and  6.5. 

Bob,  I've  had  an  impression,  and  I  can't  prove  it 
yet,  that  we're  dealing  with  more  heterogeneous 
rock.     Possibly  there  are  breccias  in  here.  But 
it's  -  it's  -  awfully  hard  to  tell  right  now. 
They're  very  light-colored  rocks  -  I  think  even 
lighter  colored  than  the  gabbros . 

Okay.     We'll  soon  find  out. 

I'm  afraid  those  -  I  think  we  can  follow  those 
tracks  -  the  pictures,  maybe,  or  - 

Yes,  I  think  we  can  see  some  of  those  coming  down. 


Tape  9^A/15 


LMP-Fv/A     I  think  the  ones  from  the  big  outcrop  of  "blue-gray 
rock,  though,  are  the  ones  going  into  Nans en. 

05  19  53  29     CDR-EVA    Bob,  my  best  guess  -  let's  see  -  077,  7-7,  6.6  - 

is  that  we're  coming  up  on  the  northern  .side  of 
Wans en . 


CC  Okay.     We  copy  that,  Geneo. 

CDR-EVA    And,  let  me  tell  you,  this  is  quite  a  Rover  ride. 
CC  It  sure  sounds  like  it. 

CDR-EVA    That  is  quite  a  machine,  I  tell  you.     I  think  it 
would  do  a  lot  more  than  we'd  let  it. 

LMP-EVA     (Laughter)     That's  right.     I  think  that  big  crater 
up  there  on  the  side  is  the  one  that  you  can  see  in 
the  photographs,  just  above  station  2. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.  I  think  if  I  come  up  here,  do  a  hard  left 
turn;  you  unbuckle  your  belt,  you'll  roll  right 
down  into  the  bottom  of  Nans en. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  afraid  you're  right. 

CC  Okay.     And  remember  we're  going  to  about  068  and 

about  T.h  will  be  station  2.     At  least  that's  our 
estimate . 

LMP-EVA  Bob  

CDR-EVA    Okay,  there's  Hansen  over  there,  huh? 
LMP-EVA    Well,  I  think  so. 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 


'-EVA     I  think  you're  right.     It's  got  to  be  it.     Got  to 
be  it.     Yes,  Bob,  I  think  we're  into  a  breccia 
population  now.     I  think  the  blocks  in  the  light 
mantle  are  largely  breccias.     They're  mottled  in 
their  characteristics.     Their  white  zaps  do  not 
seem  to  be  nearly  as  burned.     They  tend  to  be 
chalky  when  they  get  hit.     At  least,  in  the  large 
craters,  the  walls  are  chalky  looking.     Oh,  yes. 
We've  got  boulders  in  station  2. 


Tape  9W16 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  they're  there.     Yes,  sir. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you,  if  I  hand  on  to  this  camera  -until 
you  stop  and  can  tighten  it  up,  it'll  he  a  miracle. 

CDR-EVA    Boh ,  hov  long  have  we  been  driving? 

GC  Stand  hy.     We  estimate  you've  got  about  a  kilometer 

and  a  half  to  go  -  a  little  over  a  kilometer, 
anyway.     Stand  hy,  we'll  check  on  the  time.  You're 
doing  great. 

CDR-EVA    How  long  in   

liMP-EVA    Man,  this  has  been  a  trip. 

GDR-EVA    Man,  I  tell  you.     You  know,  we're  really  up  on 
top  of  this  thing.  Whoo! 

CC  You  guys  have  been  driving  6U  minutes,  and  that 

counts  the  time  to  stop  and  deploy  the  charge  and 
pick  up  the  Rover  samples. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob.     We're  very  clearly  going  downhill  now, 
into  the  trough  area  that  -  that  surrounds  the 
Massif  where  -  or  between  the  mantle  and  the  massif. 
But  the  trough  is  much  greater  in  extent  than  just 
Nansen  scale.     It's  probably  a  kilometer  wide.  I 
never  realized  that  it  was  so  -  so  much  of  a  de- 
pression in  here. 

CC  Okay.     How  about  a  range  and  bearing  readout. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure  we're  going  to  be  able  to  see  the 
LM. 


05  19  56  35    CDR-EVA    01k,  8.2,  6.9. 

CC  Copy  that. 


CDR-EVA    We  won't  be  able  to  see  the  LM  from  down  here. 

We'll  be  too  low  to  see  it.  Fact  is,  I  don't 
think  I  can  see  that  far. 


Tape  9WIT 


LMP- EVA    The  surface  patterns  are  still  the  same.  Bob. 

The  main  difference  being  that  we're  getting 
probably  a  gradual  increase  in  block  population, 
and  the  blocks  seem  to  be  of  a  different  char- 
acter.    They  -  they  may  be  breccias. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP- EVA    And  around  the  crater  here  that's  maybe  75  meters 
in  diameter,  the  -  there's  probably  5  percent 
blocks  -  fragments,  I  should  say  -  greater  than 
a  centimeter, 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  look  at  all  the  dust  around  that  fender.  I 

hate  to  think  of  what  it  would  have  been  like  with 
that  fender  gone. 

IJ^-EVA    Yes.     There's  a  good-sized  block,  sort  of  blue-gray. 

CDR-EVA    Looking  up  there.  Jack,  I  ought  to  get  some  500a 
looking  right  up  that  hill,  but   

LMP-EVA    Well,  you  may  want  to  do  that  way  out  a  way,  a  ways. 

CDR-EVA    It's  -  some  of  that  stuff  is  mantled  -  or  buried 
in  the  massif  material.     Some  of  it  Just  seems  to 
be  laying  on  it,  of  course. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  Well,  I  think  it  has  to  do  with  how  long  it's 
been  there.  You'll  tend  to  get  the  downs lope  move- 
ments forming  uphill  fillets,  and  that's  what  a  lot 
of  it  looks  like. 

CDR-EVA    Most  of  it  is  uphill  fillets.     Most  of  it  is  pretty 
sharp.     But  my  guess,  from  back  at  the  LM,  that 
those  blocks  on  the  massif  were  much  more  angular  - 
I  think  is  a  good  guess  because  that's  what  they 
look  like  to  me  here. 

LMP-EVA    And  looking  up  into  our  bluo-gray  outcrop  urea,  1 

still  have  even  more  the  impression  that  tliere ' u  - 
a  planier  (?)  orientation  that  dips  off  to  the 
southeast  -  maybe  just  fracturing,  but  I  -  pretty 
clear  up  there,  I  think.     It  may  -  it  may  be  shadows. 


Tape  9W18 

05  19  58  51  CDR-F/A 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


The  LM  is  now  50  percent  away  from  the  massif  - 
let's  see,  50  percent  of  the  massif  heigth  away 
from  the  massif.     How's  that?     I  think  we  will 
keep  that  on  top. 

That  is  a  high  mountain. 

Gemine  Christmas! 

Listen,  if  the  Earth  goes  "behind  it,  we're  changing 
station  2.     (LaiJighter)     It'll  be  nip  and  tuck, 
pardon  the  expression.     Okay.    As  we  get  closer, 
actually,  we're  out  of  the  very  -  the  block  area. 
And  that  blocky  region  of  5  percent  may  have 
been  just  associated  with  that  crater.     I  still 
see  no  lineations  although  -  - 

Look  at  these  wrinkles,  though.  Jack  -  - 

Yes.     I  mean  on  -  I  was  talking  about  the  mantle. 

Oh. 

But  you're  right  about  on  the  massif. 

The  same  wrinkled  lineations  we  saw  trending  - 
sloping  uphill  to  the  west  on  the  eastern  half  of 
the  massif  are  still  very  evident  at  this  Sun  angle. 

Okay,  17;  And  we're  estimating  that  you  should  be 
there  within  -  - 


-  -  about  5  minutes  to  meet  the  walkback  constraints. 
Well,  we're  -  Bob,  we're  almost  ready  to  park. 
Okay.  Beautiful. 

Well,  I  wouldn't  have  gone  so  far  as  to  have  said 
that . 

Well  


LMP-EVA 


We're  getting  close. 


Tape  9I+A/19 


CDR-EVA     I'll  give  them  their  5  minutes.     We'll  make  it  by 
then. 

IJ4P-EVA    Bob,  the  boulder  tracks  are  really  Just  chains  of 
small  craters,  for  the  most  part. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that.     That's  interesting. 

CDR-EVA     I  don't  think  we  can  tilt  that  television  -  I 

don't  think  they  can  tilt  the  television  camera 
high  enough  to  see  the  top  of  the  massif.  Jack, 
we're  on  the  edge  here,  but  I  don't  know  -  Is 
that  that  -  Well,  let  me  go  up  here. 

LMP-EVA    No,  you're  doing  great. 

05  20  01  08    CDR-EVA    Brazil  71,  8.9,  and  7.  It. 

LMP-EVA    See,  there's  Nansen  off  to  my  right  now. 

CDR-EVA     Yes,  I  just  want  to  make  sure  that  I'm  not  driving 
down  a  hole  here,  which  I  am,  but  -  I  don't  want  to 
drive  down  Hansen. 

Ll'IP-EVA    Wo,  I  -  you  won't.     The  saddle  -  the  end  of  Hansen 
is  over  there  near  those  blocks.     Right  over  there. 

Ii^P_EVA    Look  at  those  blocks.     Unfortunately,  the  boulder 
tracks  ~  good  boulder  tracks  are  over  into  Nansen. 

CDR-EVA    Going  out  of  here  very  slowly. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  station  -  just  about  anywhere  near  the 
big  blocks  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes  -  ~ 

LMP-EVA    would  be  a  good  station  2. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  that's  where  I'm  going  to  put  it.     We  could  try 
to  - 

LMP-EVA    Let's  see. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  where  we're  going  to  make  station  2; 
right  up  there. 


Tape  9kA/20 


LMP-E\'A  What?     Straight  ahead? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Boy-,  you're  looking  right  into  Nansen. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     We're  right  where  we  wanted  to  be  for  sta- 
tion 2.     It  looks  like  a  great  place.     Big  blocks. 
It  looks  like  quite  a  bit  of  variety  from  here. 
Different  colors,  anyway.     Grays  and  lighter  colored 
tans  . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  I'm  going  to  do  a  l80  and  park  the 
Rover  at  0U5. 

LMP-EVA    Those  are  two  good  -  there's  a  blue-gray  rock 
and  a  lighter  colored  tan  rock. 

CDR-EVA     See  where  they  can  look  in  here. 

Ll'iP-EVA     How  about  -  Are  you  going  to  park  it? 

CDR-EVA    Right  on  the  other  side  of  this  little  crater.  ... 
heading  . . . 

CC  ...  heading. 

CDR-EVA     ...  1+5 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob  ...  0^*5  ...  9-1,  7-6.     Are  you  reading,  by 
the  way? 

CC  Roger.     Reading  you  loud  and  clear. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let  me  get  undone  here.    Amp  hours  are 

98,  98.     Batteries  are  90  and  112,  and  the  motor 
forward  left  is  OFFSCALE  LOW,  and  right  is  3^0. 
Forward  rear  is  OFFSCALE  LOW,  and  right  is  2Uo. 
I  expect  we've  got  a  bad  meter. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that  on  the  31+0.     And  you  want  to 

give  me  the  bearing  one  more  time  there.  Gene. 
All  I  got  was  the  distance  at  9-1  and  the  heading  - 
and  the  range. 


Tape  9UA/2I 


CDR-ET/A  Yes,  sir.  0.1,  9. 1,  7-6.  We  are  right  at  station  2 
LMP-E\^A    Look  at  Nansen, 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that.     When  you're  at  the  sT:ation, 

here's  a  couple  of  things   

CDR-EVA    Five  minutes   

'^s'l  like  for  you  giiys  to  look  at  in  the  over- 
head.    In  addition  to  them.     We'd  like  the  TV  lens 
to  be  dusted,  in  addition  to  the  regular  dusting. 
That'll  take  the  lens  "brush,  remember. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  try  to  tighten  that? 

CC  You  might  check  the  low  gain  antella  -  antenna 

elevation  to  make  sure  it's  at  If 5  degrees.  We'd 
like  -  we  think  you  commented  on.  that,  and  I  think 
you're  right  now  looking  at  tightening  Jack's 
camera  handle. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  work  on  that,  Gene.     You  go  ahead  with  the 
other  -  - 

05  20  05  00     CDR-EVA    Okay.    _ Yes ,  we  are  at  h5  degrees.  Bob.     Let  me 

check  it.     I'll  lose  the  comm  on  you  a  second. 
I've  got  to  turn  it  towards  me. 

CDR-EVA     ...   at  Ol+5 . 

CC  And,  17.     Jack,  we'd  like  you  to  check  the  SEP 

for  us.     I  suspect  we'll  have  to  turn  it  off  and 
open  the  mirrors  and  dust  them. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  when  you  get  this  picture  - 

05  20  05  h8     CDR-EVA    You  got  HIGH  GAIN. 

CC  Roger.     Thank  you.     We  have  TV. 

CC  Geno,  we  do  not  get  a  good  bearing  from  you  guys. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  Manischewitz! 

We  might  also  check  the  LMP's  camera. 


Tape  9k^/22 

CDR-P/A    Okay.     I'll  give  it  to  you  again. 
LMP-F;A    That's  fixed.     Oh,  you  mean  for  pictures? 

CC  Roger.  ...   

IMP- EVA    Okay,  LMP  - 

Cm-Wk    071,  071  is  the  bearing. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

LMP- EVA    li;2  on  LM  -  lh2  on  the  LMP's  camera.     The  temper- 
ature is  105- 

CC  Roger.     Let's  turn  off  the  power  and  the  recorder, 

open  the  blankets,  and  dust  it. 

05  20  06  55    LMP-EVA    Power's  off,  blankets  are  open;  and.  Gene,  you'll 

have  to  dust  it. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  it.     I've  got  a  lot  of  dusting  to  do  here. 
Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Let's  see  what  we've  got  to  do. 

CC  And,  Jack,  I  presume  when  I  told  you,  you  turned 

off  the  receiver,  didn't  you?    Kot  just  the  DSEA? 

LMP-EVA    That's  affirm.     I  turned  off  both  switches. 

CC  That's  what  I  thought.     Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  my  scoop.     My  scoop  just  came  off.  That's 

interesting.  I'd  better  check  the  rake.  Vibrated 
loose,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  the  battery  covers. 

CC  Okay;  and  Jack,  and  we'd  like  to  get  an  EMU  check 

on  you. 

LMP-EVA    Stand  by. 

CC  And,  Jack,  we'd  like  to  go  to  India  on  the  maga- 

zine for  you.     Okay,  magazine  India.    My  goodness, 
we'll  never  get  started. 


Tape  9W23 


CDR-KVA    Man,  we  are  down  in  a  -  Look  at  where  we  came  down. 
Jack.     And  that  was  just  one  of  the  hills.     Got  to 
go  back  up  and  then  down  some.     Hey,  thank  you  for 
that  fix  on  the  fender,  by  the  way,  because  I'd 
hate  to  see  what  it  would  look  like  without  it. 

CC  Okay.     And  John  suggests  that  we  might  just  check 

it  momentarily  while  you're  here  to  make  sure  it's 
still  holding  on  good  and  tight.     Both  the  clamps 
and  the  tape. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  on  my  list.     If  it  stayed  on  through 
that  ride  it  may  never  come  off.     Okay.     Have  you 
got  a  lint  brush  in  there.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  hold  it  a  minute.     I've  got  to  get  this  SEP. 

Do  you  want  me  to  brush  the  SEP,  is  that  what  you 
said? 

LI4P-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Do  you  want  the  covers  open? 

LMP-EVA  They  should  be  open  and  dusted. 

05  20  09  5^+    CDR-EVA  Okay.     The  SEP  is  open.     It's  about  100  degrees. 

LMP-EVA  105  ... 

CDR-EVA  105?     Okay.     And  it's  dusted. 

LMP-EVA  Here's  your  lint  brush;  if  you  need  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  thanjs  you.     That  camera  look  all  right  to 
you?     Let  me  get  yours;  lean  over  here,  and  I'll 
get  yours.     Okay.     I'll  get  mine,  too. 

CC  And,  Jack,  we're  suggesting  that  you're  getting  a 

little  warm  -  maybe  intermediate  might  help, 

LI4P-EVA    Bob,  I  feel  the  same  way,  but  I  want  to  get  this 
camera  fixed. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  9hk/2h 

LMP-E\i'A  I  mean  the  film  changed. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Can  I  change  . . . ? 

CC  Oh,  thank  you,  Geno.     It  looks  much  better. 

CDR-EVA  How  about  Any  other  service  I  can  be? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  Houston,  the  number  of  blocks  plotted 
on  the  map  are  not  nearly  enough.     In  the  greater 
than  1-meter  range,  there  are  many  hundred  blocks 
on  the  flank  -  on  the  massif  flank  of  Nans en  and 
up  eiround  station  2,  where  we  are.     There  are  only 
one  or  two  blocks  on  the  light  mantle  side  of 
Nans en.     It  looks  as  if  the  material  in  the  bottom 
of  Nansen  is  overriding  the  light  mantle  materials 
of  the  north  wall.     That's  just  an  impression. 
There's  slightly  lighter  albedo  than  the  north  wall 
of  Nansen. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Jack.     Looks  fantastic  up  there. 

LI'IP-EVA    And  I  suggest  that  we  -  I  suggest  that  we  do  our 

raking  -  That's  right.     I  just  told  you  everything 
you  can  see  -  fairly  close  to  the  Rover  to  get  the 
front  of  the  general  population  of  talus  material 
coming  off  the  massif. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  on  my  mark  -  I've  got  everything  -  hammer, 
gnomon,  film.  Okay. 

05  20  12  51    CDR-EVA    MARK,  if  you  have  a  gravimeter  measurement  going. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  the  mark. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     The  blue-gray  rocks  are  breccias. 

They're  multilithic,  gray  matrix  -  matrix  breccias, 
I  guess.     There  are  fragments  in  them,  but  it 
doesn't  look  like  more  than  about  10  or  15  percent 
fragments.     Some  of  the  light  -  the  light-colored 
fra^ents  seem  to  have  fine-grained  -  very  fine- 
grained dark  halos  around  them.     The  zap  pits  do 
not  have  white  halos,  so  I  suspect  they  are  not 
crystalline.     They  might  be  glass  -  they  might  be 
the  vitric  or  glassy  breccias.     At  least,  the  one 
big  rock  we  have  here. 


Tape  9I4A/25 


CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    There's  a  rough,  very  rough,  foliation  in  them  - 
that  -  that  and  I'm  not  sure  -  it's  shovn  by  tlie 
elongate  knobs  on  the  surface.     It  looks  like  a 
fractTJire  foliation  of  some  kind. 

CDR-m-A    Jack,  that  rock  has  almost  got  to  have  come  down, 
don't  you  think? 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  no  question  about  it.  I'll  bet  you  -  I'll  bet 
you  it's  the  same  as  the  blue-gray  rocks  ve  see  up 
higher.     Here's  some  more  blue-gray  ones  over  here. 

CDE-EVA  Let's  -  let's  start  taJiing  -  Oh,  yes.  Look  at  the 
size  of  some  of  these  light  fragments  in  here. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  but  it  still  -  I  don't  -  It  looks  like  they're 
dominantly  matrix  breccias.     There  -  there  are 
light-colored  fragments,  and  they  may  be  crystalline. 

CDR-EVA    -  Okay   

LMP-EVA    They  are.     They're  very  light  colored;  they  look 
like  the  shattered  anorthosites .     They  have  white 
halos  -  I  xhink  that's  what  those  fragments  are. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  let's  get  a  piece  of  this  one  right  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Biggest  one  here. 

LMF-EVA  Get  her  up.     This  is  the  blue-gray  variety,  Houston. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  on  that. 

CDR-EVA  I'm  going  to  take  that  little  knob  off  up  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay;  well,  you  can  sample  -  you  can  work  that 
block  over  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    We  can  get  several  examples.     We  ought  to  sample 
across  that  layering,  actually  -  that  foliation. 


Tape  9I+A/26 

05  20  15  21    CDR-EVA    One  comment.    When  you  look  down  into  the  l)ottom 

of  Hansen,  it  looks  like  -  like,  I  guess  -  which 
sounds  obvious  -  that  some  of  the  debris  that  has 
rolled  off  of  the  South  Massif  covers  up  the  original 
material  there  that  covers  the  north  wall  of  Nansen. 
There  is  a  distinct  difference.     You've  got  that  very 
wrinkled  textiire  in  the  north  slopes  of  Hansen,  and 
you've  got  the  South  Massif  -  debris  in  the  south 
slopes  of  Hansen.    And  the  debris,  of  course,  over- 
lays the  -  the  north  slope.    And  all  the  rock  frag- 
ments ,  all  the  boulders  that  have  come  down  are  all 
on  the  west  side  of  the  -  of  the  -  correction,  on 
the  south  side  of  the  slope  of  Nans en. 

CC  Okay;  got  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston.     I  take  back  what  I  said  about  no 

halos.     There  are  light  -  not  very  sharply  light  - 
but  light  halos  around  zap  pits  in  the  matrix. 
The  matrix  glass  is  dark,  and  it  seems  to  have  a 
greenish  cast;  but  it's  very  dark. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  look  at  that  blue. 

LMP-EVA  Oh. 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  the  white  fragments  in  there. 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  come  and  help  you  there. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  there's  some  boulder  rolling  rocks  here,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA     (Laughter)    Okay,  don't  wreck  the  fillets.  There's 
an  overhang  we've  got  to  get  into. 

05  20  16  53    LMP-EVA    Okay.     51^  is  the  -  Okay,  I'll  take  it  back.  On 

the  fresh  surface,  these  look  like  fragment  breccias 
although  the  fragment  size  is  fairly  small.  There 
are  dark  gray  framgents  and  the  light  frsigments 
we  talked  about.     The  gray  ones  are  very  fine 
grained  and  dense,  although  I  see  flashes  that  in- 
dicate they  may  be  crystalline.    The  light-colored 
fragments  are  as  I  described  them  earlier,  I  think. 

CC  Copy  that. 


LMP-EVA 


Tape  9'4A/:"7 


CC  Okay;  Jack.     If  you  could  tear  yourself  awaj-  in  the 

middle  of  that  sometime  to  give  us  an  EMU  read-out, 
we'd  appreciate  it.     We  haven't  gotten  that  from 
you  yet  on  the  EVA. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  I'm  -  Stand  l)y.  Gene's  got  a  rock  to  go. 
That's  from  up  higher? 

CDR-EVA    That's  a  little  higher.     See  that  shelf  up  there? 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  The  first  rock  was  from  about  a  -  51I1  was 
from  a  meter  above  the  base  of  the  rocks;  515  is 
from  about  a  meter  and  a  half. 

CDR-EVA  Here,  can  I  get  this  in  your  - 

05  20  18  05    I>IP-EVA  Can  you  get  some  on  either  side  of  those  two  now? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

Lf-IP-EVA  Okay.     You're  open.     I'll  leave  you  open  for  a 
minute . 

CDR-EVA  Well,  okay.    Just  so  they  don't  fall  out.     Am  I  in? 

LMP-EVA  No.     Let  me  get  this  other  one. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  try  from  back  here. 

LMP-EVA  Of  course,  that's  a  north/south  overhang. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     That  one? 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  you're  facing  right  into  the  east. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes.     I  don't  know  if  I  can  get  a  piece  back 
here  or  not. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  right  where  you  ...  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Right  here?     I  can  get  that. 

LfiP-EVA    Yes,  that's  good. 


Tape  9W28 


GDR-E\'A  Oh,  beautiful.     Hit  the  gnomon. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I'll  re   

LMP-EVA  It  didn't  move.     It  just  tilted  it.     This  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  that's  it  right  there. 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  set  my  working  tool  dovn  here. 

CDR-EVA  Got  a  bag? 

LMP-EVA  Coming  right  up.     Boy,  that  dust.     Once  you  get  it 
on  there,  you  might  as  well  forget  it. 

IjMP-EVA    k9h.     kgh  is  from  a  half  a  meter  above  the  base 
of  the  rock. 

CC  Understand,  O.5  meters  up. 

LMP-EVA  And  these  are  samples  from  across  the  layering  - 
or  the  -  -  These  are  samples  from  -  across  the  - 
foliation.     I  missed  that,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that  now. 

LMP-EVA    What  do  you  think?    Can  you  get  that  -  can  you  get 
that  one  up  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  might  either  get  that  or  this  other  piece 
up  here. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  don't  take  axiy  chances. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  not  going  to.     How  about  this  one?  Here's 
a  whole  big  piece. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     That's  a  good  -  good  representative  fragment. 
Can  you  get  it? 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  reach  you  without  my  camera  hitting. 

LMP-EVA    That's  a  football-size  fragment.     Okay,  this  next 
sample  -  Can  you  get  a  bag  out,  and  we'll  try  to 
put  it  around  it.     Around  the  end.     Bob,  it's  highly 


Tape  9W29 


variable.     This  is  a  light  matrix  breccia;  whereas 
the  other  three  fragments  were  dark-matrix  or  dark- 
fragment  breccias.     The  big  rock  is  a  light-matrix 
breccia  with  dark  fragments,  and  it's  the  one  tliat 
has  the  halos  around  the  -  around  the  light  frag- 
ments.    And  that's  in  1+95,  barely.     It's  not  even 
in  it.     It's  just  -  U95  is  wrapped  around  it. 

05  20  20  50     CDR-EVA    It's  not  going  to  stay. 

IMP-EVA    It's  not  going  to  stay,  is  it? 

CDR-EVA    No.     Well  - 

LMP-EVA     It's  a  football-size  fragmental  rock.     Let  me  - 

Why  don't  you  Just  stuff  it.     See  if  you  can  stuff 
it  in  there  with  that  -  with  the  bag  down  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it'll  -  We'll  be  able  to  identify  it  when  we 
get  -  it95  when  we  get  back.     Okay,  it'll  stay. 

LMP-EVA     Is  the  bag  on  it  now? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  yes,  -  it's  ... 

LMP-EVA  Great. 

CC  Okay;  we  copy  that.  Gene.     And  do  you  guys  see  any 

tracks  coming  down  to  these  boulders?     Do  have 
any  feeling  that  these  -  you  can  place  these  that 
way? 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  unfortunately,  no.     The  main  tracks  are  out 
into  Nansen,  and  we  -  I  don't  think  we  can  get 
over  there. 

CC  Okay;  that's  those  biggies  that  we  see  on  the  left, 

huh? 

LMP-EVA    But  the  visual  resi  -  Yes.     Coming  up,  I  was 

looking;  and  there  are  no  obvious  tracks  coming 
down  here. 


CDR-EVA    Wa-jch  your  shadow.  Jack. 


Tape  9W30 


LMP-EVA  Here,  I'll  get  it.  Wait  a  minute;  that  gnomon  is 
probably  not  -  Well,  that's  right;  you  got  stereo 
earlier, 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  reset  it. 

LMP-E'/A  The  gnomon  was  moved  a  little  between  the  samples. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Do  you  need  to  take  a  vertical  pan? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I've  gotten  it  all.     I'm  getting  it  all. 

LMP-EVA    You  getting  the  flight  line?    I'll  get  a  flight  line 
this  way.     Posts ample,  flight  line. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.     I'm  on  frame  count  k2. 

CC  Copy,  1+2. 

05  20  22  19    CDR-EVA  Did  you  get  a  locator  from  here.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I  got  flight  line  on  the  north/south  trend; 
Gene  got  east/west. 

CDR-EVA    You  going  to  get  that  sample  under  there? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we  got  to  get  the  soil. 

CDR-EVA    There  may  be  an  overhang.    And  look  at  that  frag  - 
that  rack  -  rock  is  fragmented;  let's  see,  but  it's 
east  -  it's  southeast/northwest.     There's  a  split. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  that  one  right  over  there  is  okay.  You  want 
to  get  -  hey,  did  you  want  to  get  this? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  get  that. 

LMP-EVA    This  fillet? 

CDR-EVA    You  got  it? 


Tape  9W3I 


CC  And,  17   

LMP-F/A    This  is  a  fillet  from  underneath  the  rock. 

CC  Roger.     And  an  update  on  the  rake  samples  when 

you  get  around  to  it.     We'd  like  to  get  one  up  on 
the  massif  slope  as  much  as  you  can,  if  you  can 
get  over  to  it.     And  then  the  second  one  dovn  near 
the  Rover. 


CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh.     This  fillet  is  up  underneath  an  over- 
hang.    I  got  it  from  about  - 


CDR-EVA    I  got  to  get  uphill  from  you. 

LMP-EVA    It's  about   

CDR-EVA    That's  good. 

Lr^P-EVA    -  -  oh,  a  third  of  a  meter  under  an  overhand.  And 
it's  the  upper  3  centimeters  of  soil. 

CDR-EVA    And  it's  bag  i+96. 

LMP-EVA    Now  let  me  get  one  out  away  from  the  overhand  a 
little  bit. 


CDR-EVA    -  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     You  think  that's  permanent  shadow? 

LMP-EVA    And  a  one  away  from  -  -  No. 
CDR-EVA    No.     It's  facing  east. 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA     Okay.     And  a  sample  down  to  a  depth  of  about 

5  centimeters,  about  two-thirds  of  a  meter  from  Lhe  - 
boulder  -  the  south  side  -  is  in  *+9T . 


CC 


Copy  that. 


Tape  9W32 


LMP-EVA    Now  let  me  -  let  me  get  a  skim  sample,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  got  to  take  a  set  of  pictures  after  that, 
by  the  way.     Show  where  they  are. 

LMP-EVA    I  can  piece  them  into  my  flight  line  stereo. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     They  were  in  "both  of  the  before  pictures 
on  those  rocks . 

LMP-EVA    Okay;  about  a  centimeter  deep  -  skim. 

CDR-EVA    Careful.     You're  in  a  hole.     Can  you  -  you  better 
come  out. 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Boy,  that's  hard  on  the  hand  even  in  1/6  g. 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    And  that  was   

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EIVA    And  I  didn't  park  that  Rover  in  a  very  good  spot 
for  them  to  watch  what's  going  on,  I  guess;  but 
that  was  the  heading. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  shoot.     They're  missing  all  of  it. 

CDR-EVA    We  didn't  work  in  the  right  spot;  that's  all. 

CC  Every  now  and  then  we  get  a  peek  at  you  gijys.  But 

only  every  now  and  then. 

CDR-EVA  Sorry,  Bob. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  -  oh  wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  You  know,  that's  the  way  it  happens 

CC  Give  sample  bag  number,  please. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     It's  back  on. 


Tape  9W33 


MP-E^/A    Okay,  Bob.     I  missed  that.     I  didn't  give  it  to 
you;  but  I  think  -  well  the  next  bag  I  take  out, 
you  can  check  the  num  -  Well,  wait  a  minute,  I'll 
do  it  for  you. 

^o-     That's  okay.     I  suspect  it's  1+98. 
LMP-EVA    I'm  almost  positive  it  was  1+98. 
CC  Okay.     We'll  put  that  down. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  did,  too. 

05  20  26  13    MP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  -  looking  at  the  blocks  directly 

down-Sun,  there  are  -  the  light  gray,  or  the 
gray-matrix  breccias  seem  to  be  fragments,  or  . . . 
anyway,  within  the  white-matrix  breccias. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    And  I  got  a  couple  pictures  down-Sun  to  show  that 
texture . 

CC  Okay.     And  one  thing  we'd  like  to  do  would  be  to 

sample  a  variety  of  blocks,  in  terms  of  looking  at 
differences  in  the  blocks  -  from  block  to  block. 

LMP-EVA    Roger.     We 're  going  to  do  that .     We're  going  after 
a  gray  -  I  mean  a  lighter-colored  block,  now 
Are  you  going  up  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Okay;  and  if  you're  going  up  the  massif,  why 

don't  we  try  and  get  the  rake  sample  up  there  now. 
when  you  finish  these  rocks . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack  -  Jack,  don't  come  up  here  unless  you 
bring  the  rake.     It's  a  long  trip.     Ko  sense 
coming  up  here  twice.     I  can  go  get  this  sample. 
1  d  get  the  rake,  if  I  were  you.     Don't  walk  back 
up  twice. 

Lf^-EVA    Well,  I  don't  -  I'm  not  sure  they're  going  Lo 
gam  anything  by  coming  up  to  the  top. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    You're  not  going  to  gain  a  thing,  Bob. 
GC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    You're  still  on  the  talus.    You  guys  -  Oh,  well. 

The  rims  of  the  small  craters  in  the  talus  are  - 
are  softer  than  the  -  normal  terrain.     My  foot 
goes  in  maybe  10  centimeters  where  normally  it 
only  goes  in  a  centimeter. 

CC  Okay.    As  long  as  it's  above  the  break  of  the 

slope.  Jack,  we  don't  have  to  get  very  far  up  the 
slope. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right. 

CC  And,  Jack,  if  you're  back  at  the  Rover,  how  about 

giving  us  a  grav  reading  when  you  -  before  you 
leave . 

LMP-EVA    Because  I'm  late  sampling,  that's  why.     But  I'll 
do  it ,  anyway . 

CC  Roger. 

05  20  28  20    LMP-EVA    Okay,  670  155  201;  6T0  155  201. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.  Jack.     Press  on. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  at  another  boulder  up  the  slope 
here.    It's  -  looks  quite  similar  to  the  one  we 
Just  sampled,  except  there  is  a  lot  of  flake 
fractures  on  it.    Non-uniform,  nondirectional ,  - 
but  quite  -  quite  different ,  at  least  from  that 
other  rock,  in  terms  of  the  fracture  pattern.  The 
texture  looks  to  be  quite  similar.     Boy,  I'm  glad 
I  don't  have  to  walk  to  the  top  of  this  thing. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  look.  Gene,  on  these  rake  samples,  there  is 
Just  no  point  in  carrying  a  rake  all  the  way  up 
here  -  - 

CC  Negative,  Jack,  as  long  as  you're  above  the 

break  -  - 


Tape  9i+A/35 


-  -  because  all  we  needed  was  a  break  in  the  slope. 

As  long  as  you're  above  the  break  in  the  slope; 
that's  right. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  that's  all  right.     It's  being  done;  but 
let's  vatch  those  kind  of  calls  please. 

CDR-EVA    They  can't  appreciate  the  -  toughness  of  going 

up  this  slope,  though.    We  can;  we've  got  to  tell 
them  that. 


LMP-EVA 
CC 


LMP-EVA    Well,  we  did. 

CC  Yes,  that's  what  we  were  saying.     Don't  go  above  - 

just  at  the  base  of  the  break  in  the  slope.  Jack. 
Don't  climb  all  the  way  up  there  with  it. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  relaoc. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  all  set,  Bob.     Wo  problem  ... 

LMP-EVA    We  want  to  get  away  from  that  big  rock  because 

it's  probably  shedding.     Hey,  that's  a  different 
rock,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Well,  it  looks  like  the  same  texture,  but 

it's  got  that  flaky  fracture  pattern  all  over  it. 
I'm  going  to  get  a  stereo  while  I'm  at  it. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 


CDR-EVA    This  ought  to  cover  any  samples  I  take  off  of 
that  thing. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  get  myself  a  zap  of  cold  water. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  we've  got  to  be  a  million  miles  away  froi 
the  LM. 


Okay,  this  is  a  crystalline  rock,  Houston.     It ' 
got  nice  white  halos  around  the  zap  pits.  The 
zap  is  -  the  zaps  are  not  -  dense  black  glass  , 
but  a  dark  greenish  -  very  dark  greenish-gray. 


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CDR-EVA    Are  those  heaos  or  fragments? 

LMP-EVA    No,  they're  halos .    Well,  they  are  fragments,  I 

think,  also.     But,  right  now,  it's  fairly  crystal- 
line, "but  It  is  heterogeneous.     Matter  of  fact 
(laughter)  there's  a  big  fragment  of  a  porphyry 
caught  up  in  this  thing,  I  think. 

CDR-EVA  Did  you  get  a  locator,  "by  any  chance? 

LMP-EVA  I  haven't  done  a  thing. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Well,  I  vant  to  start  taking  some  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  we  got  to  get  some  of  that. 

05  20  31  19    CDR-EVA    That's  what  I  want.     That's  where  I'm  going  right 

now. 

Lt'iP-EVA    And  there's  a  chunk  there  we  can  get.    That's  a 
big  fragment  within  this  crystalline  rock  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Take  a  picture  of  that   

LMP-EVA    -  -  inclusion. 

CDR-EVA    Take  a  pictiire  of  that  and  then  -  and  then  -  your 
locator,  I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA  Go  aJiead.     I've  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I've  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Beautiful.     Looks  like  a  porphyry. 

CDR-EVA  Boy,  it  does  look  like  a  crystalline  rock. 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  an  anorthosite  porphyry  is  what  it 
looks  like . 

CDR-EVA    The   ...  has  got  the  very  large  crystals  in  there. 

They're  very  -  they're  very  reflective,  elongated 
crystals . 


Tape  9W37 


LMP-EVA 


CDR-EVA 


It's  a  relatively  angular  inclusion  a"bout  -it's 
about  a  half  a  meter  in  size,  and  it's  a  square 
cross  section.     Well,  it's  irregular;  but  gen- 
erally square  cross  section.     It's  in  bag  516, 
and  it  looks  like  a  -  well  it's  a  high  feldspir 
rock.^   It  may  be  an  anorthositic  gabbro ,  but  it 
is  -  it  does  look  like  a  porphyry. 

There's  a  big  chunk  where  I've  got  -  I  can't  gr-t 
it  out,  though;  it's  buried  in  a  rock  -  a  very  - 
oh,  half  an  inch  elongated  -  I  can't  see  whether 
they  are  colorless  or  not,  but  they  are  certainly 
reflective  crystals.     See  that  up  here?  See 
right  there? 


CDR-EVA    And  then  in  the  big  rock,  you've  got  massive 

things  like  this  big  -  this  big  fragment  here  - 
that's  5  Inches  across. 

L^^P-EVA    Well,  it  -  that  may  be  a  spall  point.  Gene,  that's 
a  lighter  color,  in  general,  because  of  a  zap  or 
something. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  get  the  -  let  me  get  some  more  samples  of  it. 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  we  need  to  get  some  of  the  host  rock  here. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.     We'll  get  a  piece  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay  now,  you're  still  sampling  the  one  we  Just 
got.     So  we'll  get  another  one. 

05  20  33  h2    LMP-EVA    Okay.     The  sa^ne  kind  -  or  the  contact  of  -.hat 

rock  looks  very  much  -  looks  like  it  might  be 
finer  grained  -  but  it's  about  the  same  -  in  517. 
That's  the  contact  in  the  -  the  inclusion  side  of 
the  contact.     Keep  going  after  the  other  one,  Gene, 
I'll  get  this  in  you  ~  your  bag. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  could  probably  see  this  rock  if  you  look 
over  this  way.     We're  high  enough. 


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CC  Yes,  we  saw  it,  Geno.     £luite  a  sight  -  quite  a 

goodie . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  see  if  I  can't  get  this  one  here. 
There  it  is. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  host  rock  for  the  inclusion,  which 
appears  to  be  also  crystalline  but  may  be  a 
recrystallized  rock  of  some  kind  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Can't  see  it  too  well. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  metamorphic  -  also  looks  like  a  high 

plagioclase  -  high  feldspar,  anyway.     That's  in 
bag  518  -  and  that  was  a  loose  frag  -  fairly 
loose  but  in  place  freigment  along  the  fracture 
zone . 

CC  Okay.   

CDR-EVA    Will  you  hold  this  a  minute?     I'm  going  to  try 
to  get  the  rest  of  it  up  there. 

CC  Okay,  17.     And  for  your  thinking  in  the  next  few 

minutes,  you  might  also  factor  in  the  guestion 
the  backroom  raises  about  taking  10  minutes  out 
station  h  and  adding  it  into  this  station,  given 
the  wealth  of  interest  that  seems  to  be  occurring 
here.    You  might  think  about  that.     You  never  - 
haven't  been  to  station  U,  so  it's  a  little  hard 
to  judge.     But  if  you  think  10  minutes  can  be  very 
profitably  spent,  you  might  as  well  do  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  we'll  think  about  it.     This  is  a  medium- 
green  anorthositic  gabbro,  and  it  looks  like  it 
has  some  pastel-green  allophane  (?)  crystals  in 
it.     Did  you  get  it? 

CC  We  copy  that . 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  get  any  more  of  it,  Jack,  up  there.  I 
can't  reach  any  more. 


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LMP-EVA    Okay,  and  that  small  chip  of  that  is  in  519.  It's 

the  same  host  -  rock,  much  like  the  previous  sample. 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  good  sample  for  you. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     And  another  -  chunk  of  the  host  - 

CDR-EVA    Oops,  he  careful. 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    It's  still  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I've  got  it.     I  need  to  get  rid  of  this   

CDR-EVA  Okay? 

LMP-EVA    It's  in  there.     I  haven't  closed  your  bag  yet. 

And  we've  got  to  get  a  -  get  one  soil  sample  up 
the  hill  here.     Oh,  we  didn't  get  the  rake  - 

CDR-EVA    We  ought  to  get  a  soil  sample,  though,  up  here, 
so  -  - 

LMP-EVA    We'll  get  the  rake  sample  right  over  here  on  this 
slope . 

CDR-EVA    Where  did  that  thing  go.  Jack? 
LMP-EVA    Right  here, 

CC  Okay.     Was  that  last  sample  in  518,  as  well? 

CDR-EVA    There  it  is.     That's  it  right  there. 
05  20  36  31    LMP-EVA    No.     We  haven't  put  it  in  yet. 
CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  that  will  go  in  1+99. 
CC  Copy  that. 


Tape  9Wi+0 


CDR-EVA    You  get  it? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Bob,  this  is  a  fairly  -uniform-looking  rock. 

It  does  have  some  -  widely  spaced  fractures  across 
it.     It's  -  cleaj^ly  crystalline  and  has  crystal- 
line inclusions  in  it, 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack   

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Might  get  the  soil  from  around  that  thing. 

LMP-EVA    Both  rocks  look  like  they  might  he  in  the 
anorthositic  :lasB  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Your  bag  is  still  open  part  way,  too. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  of  rocks.     It's  Just  that  it  -  one  is  -  has 
the  appearance  of  being  a  por  -  finer  grain 
matrix.     Looks  like  a  porphyry  in  -  in  the  boulder. 

CC  Okay.     And  a  reminder,  as  you  photograph  it,  to 

remember  that  the  photograph  in  the  southwest 
quadrant  there  will  be  the  best  ones .  Around 
the  corner  on  two  sides  there  will  be  the  best 
ones  to  show  the  structure  through  the  whole  rock. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  sir.     On  the  southwest? 

CDR-EVA  South  and  west. 

CC  Roger. 

LMF-EVA  South  and  west.  Yes. 

CC  Roger. 

Lf'lP-EVA  No,  the  west's  in  shade.     No,  no.     You  mean  the  - 

CC  Southwest  - 


LMP-EVA 


South  and  east. 


Tape  9^A/l4l 


CC  Roger.     The  southwest  face  -  or  it  faces  not 

quite  south. 

05  20  37  59     CDR-EVA    Okay.     I've  got  a  stereo  -  I'll  just  continue 

stereo  around  here.     Hey,  Jack,  you  can  get  way 
under  there,  and  I  know  you  could  get  soil.  I 
don't  know  how  long  it's  been  shadowed,  but  it '  r, 
been  shadowed  as  long  as  this  rock's  been  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'll  do  that. 
CDR-EVA    Way  out  under  there. 
Lf^-EVA    I've  got  to  stereo  this  one. 
CDR-EVA    I've  already  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I'm  getting  it  from  this  way,  and  they  like 
that.     Did  we  kick  any  dirt  in  imder  there? 

CDR-EVA  No.  I  don't  -  no,  I  don't  think  so.  Go  way  down 
m  there.  Let  rae  get  a  couple  of  after  pictures. 
Yes,  we  want  to  get  two  sides  of  these  rocks,  and 
you  can  see  their  structure. 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  that.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  Okay, 

LMP-EVA    I  took  those.     I  took  that  stereo. 

CC  Okay,  and  if  I  could  remind  you  guys  to  get  a 

pan  from  up  there  before  you  leave  the  high  uphill 
area  there.  There's  no  point  in  climbing  uv  there 
twice.  Remember? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.  Bob.     How  much  time  we  got  here  now? 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     You  got  your  bag? 


Tape  9^A/k2 


CC  Okay.     We  got  12  or  13  minutes  left  at  this  station; 

unless  you  take  that  extra  10  minutes  that  we  were 
offering  you. 

CDR-EVA  Let's  take  it.  Bob. 

LMP-EVA  We  got  to  get  the  rake. 

CDR-EVA  Let's  take  it;  we'll  need  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Let  me  try  again. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  know  whether  I  can  or  not. 

CDR-EVA    Do  you  know  how  far  under  you're  getting,  by 
any  chance? 


LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  got  in  a  -  I  got  under  an  east-west  over- 
hang about  -  20  centimeters  -  way  back  -  By  the 
way,   ...  it  goes  even  farther,  but  that's  about 
as  far  as  I  can  reach  back  there  now. 


CDR-EVA    That's  enough.  Jack  let  me  - 
CC  Okay.     I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    That's  in  bag  500. 

CC  And,  IT,  if  you  want  to  take  a  minute,  you  might 

look  up  in  the  sky  and  notice  that  our  camera  is 
taking  a  beautiful  picture  of  Mother  Earth. 

05  20  ho  10    CDR-EVA    Isn't  that  pretty  over  -  Can  you  see  the  Massif, 

too? 


CC  How  we're  coming  down  to  look  at  the  massif. 

Isn't  that  a  beautiful  picture  of  the  Pacific 
there?    Ed  finally  found  it.     Now  we  see  the  massif. 


LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    And,  Bob,  I  took  an  after  picture  of  -  of  where 
Jack  just  got  that  soil  sample  under  the  rock 
from;  and  I'm  on  60 . 


Tape  9hA/h3 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  through  with  the  gnomon? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LIff-EVA  I'll  set  it  up  for  the  rake. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'll  go  up  there  and  get  a  pan.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     You  get  that  pan  -  - 

'^^  ^  ~  tiifin't  get  that  soil  bag  number.  Gene  -  Jack. 

CDR-EVA  Vfe've  been  here  --  - 

LMP-EVA  500 . 

CC  Copy  that . 

LiW-EVA  We're  on  a  pretty  good  slope,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    You  bet  you.     And  do  I  know  it.     Hey  -  Bob,  how 
long  have  we  been  at  this  station? 

CC  Stand  by.     You've  been  here  about  i+O  minutes 

right  now.     Can  you  believe  it? 

CDR-EVA    No,  T  -  Is  that  -  all  ready?     Jack  -  - 

CC  And  we're  going  to  give  you  that  extra  10  minutes 

there . 

CDR-EVA    I  C8,n't  believe  we've  been  here. 

CC  That  leaves  you  about  20  minutes;  then  you'll  have 

to  be  moving. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  this  pan  may  be  looking  -  Okay.     This  pan 
m-ay  be  looking  right  smack  in  the  sides  of  the 
Massifs.     Only  way  you  can  get  it  is  to  lean 
back  -  and  I  can't  lean  downhill. 

CC  Hey.    Watch  out  for  that  crater  behind  you 

there,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  standing  in  the  crater  so  I  can  get  level. 


Tape 


CC  Yes,  we  see  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  1  have  some  good  pictures  of  Nansen,  anyway, 
and  - 

05  20  k2  28    CDR-EVA    You  know,  1  look  out  there,  I'm  not  sure  I  really 

helieve  it  all. 

LMP-EVA    Boh,  my  down-Sun  pictures  on  the  rake  were  taken 
at  f/8.     I'm  sorry. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that  ...    We'll  take  it  into  account. 

CDR-EVA    This  isn't  an  easy  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  to  get  out  of  my  shadow  or  I  can't 
see  what  I'm  doing. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  he  right  down  there  to  hag  that  rake  for  you. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  to  get  it  first. 

CDR-EVA     (Laughter)     Man,  I  tell  you;  can  you  come  downhil.] 
in  a  hurry.     Going  uphill  is  a  nice  Joh.     Bob,  I'd 
say  we  can  meet  our  walkhack  constraints,  if  any- 
one's interested. 

CC  Okay.     I  expect  it's  all  downhill  from  here. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  no,  sir.     Not  exactly. 

CC  Can  you  guys  see  the  LM  or  are  you  down  too  far 

to  see  the  LM? 

CDR-EVA    ...  our  walkhack  constraints.     Oh,  no.     The  LM 

is  over  ahout  three  rises  in  the  Scarp  before  we 
can  even  see  it. 

CC  Okay,  I  thought  that  might  have  happened. 

CDR-EVA    You're  looking  -I'm  not  even  at  a  lev  -I'm  not 
even  at  a  level  of  the  last  -  the  last  hill  we 
came  over. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  if  you've  looked  up  that  way. 


Tape  9W^5 


CC  Roger.    We  had  a  feeling  for  that.     I  was  just 

cheeking. 

CDR-EVA    We  can  meet  them,  but  I  wouldn't  stretch  them. 
CC  Okay , 

LMP-EVA    Not  many  small  walnut-sized  fragments  in  here. 
Boh.     Gotten  about  seven  or  eight. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Gene,  you  got  a  bag? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  sir.     Right  here.     How  you  doing? 

LMP-EVA  My  hands  are  getting  tired. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Bag  501. 

CDR-EVA  No,  there  aren't  a  lot;  but  that'll  fill  up  a  bag. 

LMP-EVA  This  kilogram  of  sample  site  2? 

CDR-EVA  I'll  have  to  look;  I  think  so.     I  think  they  all 
are,  aren't  they?  Practically. 

CC  And  this  is  the  one  that  we  would  like  to  get  the 

kilogram  of  soil  from,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I'll  use  my  scoop  for  that. 

05  20  1*5  27     CDR-EVA  Bag  501. 

CC  Copy  that.  Gene. 

LiMP-EVA  Okay,  what  do  we  have  left  here? 

CDR-EVA  We  want  to  get  a  -  I  got  the  high  pan. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let  me  look.     They  want  it   

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  how  we  used  up  all  the  time,  but  we 
did, 

CDR-EVA    Okay,        pan,  by  the  way  -  I  got  extensive  vertical 
coverage  down  into  Nans en.  Bob. 


Tape  9hk/h6 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Gene.    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA     . . .  getting  to  my  ... 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  where  the  hour  went  that  it  took  to 
drive  here. 

LMP-EVA    Maybe  time's  different  in  space.     Adventures  in 
space  and  time . 

CDR-EVA    We  changed  2  hours  and  UO  minutes.     I  don't  know 
whether  that  makes  us  older  or  not ,  tout  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Ooops  - 

CDR-EVA    Awrrrrrr  - 

IWP-EVA    Try  again.     I  got  half  of  it .     I  got  three-quarters 
of  it. 

CDR-EVA    502,  Boh,  will  he  the  kilogram. 
CC  Copy  that . 

LMP-EVA    And  that's  sample  down  to  about  5  -  about 

h  centimeters  -  Don't  get  too  close  to  the  camera. 
Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  a  big  bag  full.     Want  to  put  it  in  mine? 

LMP-EVA    It's  all  right.     I  can't  feel  it.     You  might  as 
well  - 

CDR-EVA    How's  your  cooling,  okay? 
05  20  1+6  55    LMP-EVA    Cooling's  fine.    My  hands  are  tired. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  natural. 
LMP-EVA    Okay,  ... 

CC  Okay.    And  guys  -  do  you  see  any  more  different 

blocks  up  there  that  are  worth  sampling  before 
you  go  on  down  on  to  the  flats  and  sample  the 
light  mantle? 


Tape  9kk/h'J 


LMP-EVA    We  haven't  had  a  chance  to  look  around  any  more 
than  you've  heard. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EYA    You  want  a  rake  and  a  light  mantle  here? 

We  want  a  rake  and  a  light  mantle.  You  might  as 
well  get  that  down  "by  the  Rover  -  later  on  and  - 

LMP-EVA    Get  an  after  -  get  an  after.  Gene.     Gene,  get 
an  after. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Got  it,  got  it,  got  it,  got  it. 
CC  Then  you  might  look  around  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  sorry,  Boh.     Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  . . .   documented  samples  there  -  up  on  the 

slope  of  the  massif,  hefore  you  move  down  the 
flatter  light  mantle  areas  by  the  Rover.  Just 
do  the  other  sampling. 

LMP-EVA    We  -  we  will. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Jack  got  the  befores  on  the  rake  and 
I  got  the  after. 

CC  Okay;  we  have  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  here  are  two  rocks  side  by  side,  a  meter 
or  two  in  diameter.    And  one  is  the  anorthositic 
gabbro,  if  I  can  use  the  term;  and  the  other  is 
the  -  is  that  two-cycle  breccia. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  that's  the  way  to  come  downhill. 

LMP-EVA  Just  don't  stub  your  toe. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  that's  the  way  to  come  downhill. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 


Tape  9W+8 


LMP-EVA    Set  up  right  there.    Let's  get  that  -  let's  get 
that  big  clast . 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  fram  -  a  fracture  right  in  there  I 
want  to  get  near.     Oh,  the  clast.  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CDR-EVA    Good  eye,  good  eye. 

LMP-EVA    Big  white  clast  -  in  the  two-cy  -  in  the  gray- 
matrix  hreccia. 


CDR-EVA    Good  eye.    Man,  that's  a  prize.     Let  me  get  this 
over  here  so  I  can  . . . 


IMP-EVA    I  think  you  can  even  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  can  get  both  sides.     I  want  to  get  this  big  - 
Yes,  I  think  I  can  get  that.     I'm  going  to  try. 
Oh.     I  can't  believe  the  trouble  I  have  with 
f-stops . 

LI^ff-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  try  to  take  this  piece  off  first. 

LMP-EVA    Pretty  hard,  isn't  it?     That  boulder's  going 
to  roll. 


CDR-EVA    Man,  that  is  hard.    There's  the  same  clast 
over  there . 


LMP-EVA  Well,  we  get   

CDR-EVA  That  clast  is  soft. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  use  your  -  your  blade  end? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Yes,  let  me  get  that  little  piece,  anyway, 
to  start  with.     Got  it.     There's  two  more  pieces. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Before  we  cover  them  up,  let's  get  them. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  to  get  a  sample  of  that  mother  rock. 

LMP-EVA  Okay ,  there  you  go . 


Tape  9^A/U9 


CDR-EVA    The  other  one's  right  there. 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Nov,  I'm  going  to  see  if  I  can't  get  a  sample  - 

LMP-EVA    Want  to  try  to  hit  that  one  more  time.     I  think 
we ' ve  got  another  one  coming  there .     There ' s 
another  little  one. 

LMP-EVA    That  looks  almost  like  a  rhyolite  from  here.  I 
don't  believe  it,  though. 

CDR-EVA    No,  that's  not  -  - 

05  20  50  l6    LMP-EVA    I  think  that's  it.     Got  a  hag?     Okay,  this  is  a 

fine-grained  -  but  crystalline  vhite  clast  -  in 
the  gray  breccia j  and  it's  mixed  with  soil.  We 
had  to  pick  up  a  little  soil.  503. 

CDR-EVA    I  guess  they're  all  there,  aren't  they? 

LMP-EVA    1  think  they  are.    There  are  three  clasts ,  anyway  - 
or  three  fragments  that  we  got  off. 

CDR-EVA    Chips.     Let  me  get  a  piece  of  the  rock  it's  in. 

And  I'm  going  to  take  a  closeup  stereo  of  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  don't  get  it  -  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  See  it? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.     See  it?     You  hit  me  with  it. 

CDP-EVA  Well  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I  tried  to  catch  it. 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  you  still  there? 

CC  Roger.     Still  there.     Listening  with  great  delight. 

CDR-EVA    I  believe  ...  the  piece  that  came  off  there, 
though.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  another  piece  of  it  up  here. 


Tape  9^A/50 


CDR-EVA    And  I'd  roll  that  downhill   

LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  -  the  host  rock  for  that  -  that  inclusion 
of  white  material  will  be  in  bag  -  What  is  it? 

CDR-FVA  501+ . 

IjMP-EVA  50k.    Two  chips  with  soil.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Getting  heavy? 

LMP-EVA  What?     The  bag? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  No.     Just  the  scoop. 

CDR-EVA  Just  malce  suxe  they're  closed  so  they  don't  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  wore  my  hand  out  holding  that  camera  together 
coming  out  here. 


CDR-EVA    We're  getting  some  samples  this  time.     I  want  to 
get  a  far  -  an  after,  and  I  want  to  get  a  closeup 
stereo  of  that.     And  I'm  going  to  get  some  pictures 
around  this  block,  too. 


LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    There's  an  after  and  now  I'm  going  to  get  -  sort 
of  a  closeup  stereo  around  it.     That  ought  to 
do  it . 


05  20  52  18    LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  while  he's  doing  that,  there's  a  real 

good  example  of  pit-bottom  crater  up  here  even 
on  this  talus  slope.     I'll  try  to  take  a  stereo 
of  it. 


CO  Okay,  Jack,  that  sounds  great.     I  guess  there's 

always  a  problem  of  getting  the  in-place,  glass, 
if  you  think  that's  appropriate  at  this  point. 
Word  along  those  lines,  though,  is  we'd  like  your 
Rover  moving  in  11  minutes;  so  it's  probably  not 
appropriate  at  this  time  on  that. 


Tape  9W51 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  there  isn't  any  glass  in  this  -  this  crater  - 
you  can  see  it  with  your  TV. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    It's  just  bigger  -  it's  bigger  than  the  average 

crater.     And  it  still  has  that  pit,  the  pit  being 
about  a  third  of  the  diameter  of  the  -  the  inner 
diameter  of  the  crater  -  third  of  the  -  make  it 
a  fourth  of  the  rim  diameter,  that's  easier. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  can  I  look  -  can  I  look  at  that  closely? 
LMP-EVA    Look  at  what? 

CDR-EVA    Hold  the  rake  a  second.    We  got  to  be  moving  in 
how  many  minutes ,  Bob? 

CC  We'd  like  to  have  you  moving  in  10  minutes,  which 

means  -  allow  about,  you  know,  the  -  the  usual 
3  or  1+  or  5  minutes  for  closeout  -  before  that  time. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we'll  get  hustling. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     That  white-colored  inclusion  we 
sampled  looks  like  a  strange  - 

CDR-EVA    Look  out.  Jack. 

CC  It's  the  old  boulder-rolling  trick. 

CDR-EVA    How  about  getting  a  soil  sample  under  there? 

CC  Don't  hit  the  Rover. 

CDR-EVA    Get  that  -  get  that  sample  under  there.  Jack. 
Under  that  rock. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Got  a  bag? 

CDR-EVA    Got  a  bag. 


Tape  9hk/'^2 


05  20  5^  12    LMP-EVA    The  soil  from  right  underneath  the  rock  -  down 

to  ahout  h  centimeters  -  in  505.     And  I'll  try 
to  skim  it  here  a  little,  too-     Get  the  upper  - 
centimeter. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  this  "big  white  clast  -  I'm  not  sure  there 

aren't  -  some  smaller  ones  in  some  of  those  other 
big  houlders.    That's  just  an  intuitive  guess. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  there  are. 

CDR-EVA    But  we  never  saw  any  as  obviously  big,  as  gross 
as  this  one.     Such  as  this  particiilar  boulder  I 
photographed,  I  had  three  of  them  other  than  the 
one  we  sampled.    And  that's  505  -  and  506 ,  in 
that  order. 

CC  Okay ;  we  copy  that . 

CDR-EVA    On  the  -  - 

CC  And  by  now,  probably  the  best  thing  for  you  guys  ■ 
LI'IP-EVA    Bob,  that  rock  

CC  -  -  to  do  is  to  go  back  to  the  Rover  and  pick 

up  the  rake  samples.     Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  That   

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     That  rock  -  that  clast  -  white  clast  -  I 
looked  at  it ,  and  it  has  a  light ,  pastel-green  - 
fairly  rounded  crystals  in  a  fine-grained  white 
to  light  pinkish-tan  matrix.     And  you  can  figure 
that  one  out.     Looks  like  olivine  and  something. 

CC  Roger  on  that.     Sounds  like  a  rainbow. 

LMP-EVA    It  might  be  a  -  No,  it's  not  those  -  the  colors 
aren't  that  distinct.  Bob.     I  was  just  giving 
you  shader; . 


CC 


Okay;  Roger. 


Tape  9^A/53 


CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  have  you  panned  -  down  into  Hansen  and 
seen  this  rock  that's  -  oh,  30  or  Uo  meters  from 
us?    To  give  you  an  idea  of  the  kind  of  upslope 
filleting  you  have  on  some  of  those  boulders. 

CC  Okay,  we'll   

CDR-EVA  It's  down  to  your  right. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  send  Ed  over  there  to  look  at  it. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  I'll  help  him. 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  think  you  got  enough  time. 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  you  guys  to  get  going  on  the  rake 

sample.     We'd  like  a  handle  on  the  rake  there. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  to  have  to  move  out  here  a  ways, 
Geno . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Coming  right  there. 

CDR-EVA  Right  there  is  what  I'm  looking  at. 

CC  Okay.     We're  going  to  check  it  out;  thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    And  there's  no  sense  trying  to  get  500 's  up. 
Well  -  Let's  see  what  happens. 

CC  Okay.    Also,  we're  running  out  of  -  there's  no 

time  to  get  500 's  either,  unfortunately.  We're 
planning  on  station  h,  which  will  be  a  better 
perspective  distance  anyway. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  was  going  to  say  there's  no  sense  in  trying 
to  get  them  up  the  massif;  I  don't  think  you'll 
see  anything  up  there. 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  9kk/5^ 

05  20  57  22    LMP-EVA    Gene.     You  getting  your  pan? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  said  where  do  you  want  it? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  right  over  there  where  there's  some  frag- 
ments .     And  you  get  the  - 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  the  before  and  the  locator. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  and  then  I'll  get  the  down. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     (Laughter)    ...  to  take  pictures. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Let  me  tell  you,  you  just  got  to  think  an 
order  of  magnitude  "bigger  than  what  you're  norm- 
ally are  accustomed  to  thinking. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  pan's  complete. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  get  the  rake  sample  so  we  can  move  on.  Bob, 
I  couldn't  get  those  500 's  anyway.     It  would  re- 
quire me  to  pitch  up  too  far,  and  there's  no  way 
I  could  do  it. 

CC  Okay.     No,  we're  definitely  not  in  favor  of  that. 

Gene,  at  this  area. 

CDR-EVA    I  know,  I'm  just  mulling  it  over,  but  there  really 
isn't  any  way  I  could  get  them. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you  - 

05  20  58  53    CDR-EVA    How  are  your  hands?    Let  me  rake  that  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  all  right;  there  just  aren't  any  rocks. 
Should  have  brought  the  scoop  and  used  the  old 
shovel  trick. 


CDR-EVA 


There's  a  couple,  keep  going.  There  sure  aren't, 
are  there? 


Tape  9W55 


CC  Okay,  do  you  have  any  feeling  -  do  you  have  that 

hard  layer  underneath  there  like  you  did  yester- 
day, when  you  raked  at  station  1,  Jack? 

CDR-EVA    There's  one  under  the  gnomon  you  can  get. 

LMP-EVA    Several  I  thought  were  rocks  turned  out  to  be 
clods . 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  that's  what  most  of  them  are  is  clods.  How 
do  you  get  clods  if  it's  never  "been  wet?  You're 
not  getting  any.  You've  had  three  in  there  ever 
since  the  last  four  scoops. 

LMP-EVA    There  jus-c  aren't  many. 

CDR-EVA  5OT. 

CC  Okay,  copy  50? »  very  few. 

CDR-EVA    Three  rocks .     Yes ,  you  got  about  four  rocks  - 
about  2  inches  and  smaller. 

LMP-EVA    And  let  me  get  the  down-Sun  which  -  - 

CC  Okay,  let's  just  get  the  soil  and  press  on. 

We'd  like  to  move  in  3  minutes,  3  minutes. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  got  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  put  this  in  your  bag  and  .  .  . 
we'll  forget  the  soil. 

LMP-EVA    Forget  the  soil? 

CDR-EVA    He  wants  us  moving  in  3  minutes.     So  let's  go. 
LMP-EVA    Well  - 

CC  No,  get  the  soil,  guys.     Get  the  soil.  Don't, 

forget  the  soil;  get  the  soil. 

LMP-EVA    Yes ,  we  want  it . 

CDR-EVA    I'm  sorry,  I  thought  you  said  to  skip  it. 


Tape  Shk/'^G 


CDR-EVA  Got  your  bag? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    May  be  a  little  messy. 

CDR-EVA  That's  all  right. 

LMP-EVA  One-scoop-Schmitt,  they  call  me. 

CDR-EVA  That's  good.     That's  bag  508. 

CC  Copy  that. 

05  21  00  50     CDR-EVA    You'll  have  to  start  putting  some  of  these  samples 

in  my  bag.  You're  getting  a  full  bag  for  Christmas 
here. 

LMP-EVA    Is  it  so  full  we  ought  to  change  it? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Let's  do  that  after  we  get  to  the  next 
station,  though. 

LMP-EVA  Well  -  okay. 

CDR-EVA  We  ought  to  start  moving  out  of  here. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  let's  go. 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  get  one  after  of  the  area  that  we  messed  up. 

CC  Beautiful  station,  guys;  just  simply  beautiful. 

Almost  deserves  a  Falcon  code. 

LMP-EVA    Man,  I'll  tell  you.     (Laioghter)     Falcon  109-  I 

couldn't  help  that.  Bob;  it's  just  too  beautiful. 

CDR-EVA  Hey,  Jack,  will  you  look  where  we  kicked  up  this 
stuff.  There's  some  light  -  the  light  -  well,  I 
can't  see  it  now,  I'm  looking  in  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  can  see.     There's  a  light-colored  fragment  I 
think  we  break  into. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  kick  it  up. 

LMP-EVA    They  are  light-colored  clods. 


Tape  9^A/5T 


CDR-EVA    And  when  I  was  walking  uphill,  I  really  wasn't 
sinking  in  protably  more  than  an  inch  or  two. 

LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  -  can  you  -  want  to  take  this 
hag  off  of  aie? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  one  out.     We  can  use  this  one. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Because  we  want  to  get  rolling. 

CC  Okay,  IT,  there's  a  couple  of  things  here,  while 

your  getting  undone  there.     There's  our  house- 
keeping to  close  out.     Change  those  bags.  We'd 
also  like  to  get  the  SEP  turned  on,  and  you  might 
read  us  the  temperature  when  you  turn  it  on.  And 
other  than  that ,  stowing  the  TV  and  low  gain 
antenna  and  you're  on  your  way.    We've  taken  care 
of  the  gravimeter  already. 

CDR-EVA    What  did  it  -  did  our  reading  change  much.  Bob? 

CC  Which  one? 

LMP-EVA    Make  sure  that's  locked  on  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it  is  locked;  make  sure  the  cap's  locked. 

Okay,  bag  8  is  on  the  gate,  and  Jack's  getting 
bag  k. 

CC             Okay ;  copy  that .     Copy  that . 
05  21  03  00    CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  know  my  camera's  going  to  be   


EUD  OF  TAPE 


Tape  9^B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  21  30  12    CMP  Houston,  it's  coming  in.     Rooster  Tail  ...  -  Yes, 

dark  striations,  vertical  -  ***tlon  up  and  do-um 
the  a  -  area  rim.     And  it  looks  like  there's  a 
black  -  hut  they  all  look  green.     You  know,  it 
looks  kind  of  a  green-gray  in  this  type  of  light, 
back  on  this  side.     And  a  green-gray  material 
down  in  the  center  of  the  Rooster  Tail,  on  the 
floor  of  the  Rooster  Tail.     And  the  floor  is  about 
one-fourth  of  the  diameter.    Turn  this  thing  off  - 
60  -  minus  Peirce,  scale  250,  8-second  inter- 
valometer,  and  I  lost  my  intervalometer .  Count 
8  seconds,  I  guess.     Stuck  it  around  here  and  it 
disappeared.  Nothing. 

CC  Ron,  this  is  your  friendly  inter  -  intervalometer 

speaking,  can  I  help  you? 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     Let's  see,  we're  about  159  - 

I'm  going  to  take  two  more  pictures  on  this  frame, 
and  finish  it  up  on  Lima  Lima,  huh?    Off  to  the 
north.     Maybe  it's  got  I60 ,  I'll  keep  it. 

05  21  3h  12    CMP  Okay,  Lima  Lima  is  on  161.     I  don't  know  how  many's 

left.     It  says  I60  on  it,  still  going,  but  - 

05  21  3k  2k    CMP  Mike  Mike  is  starting  with  number  1. 

CC  Mike  Mike,  number  1.  Roger. 

CC  Ron,  just  for  your  information,  we're  not  going  to 

give  you  a  TEI-lt9  pad  or  a  state  vector  this  pass  ■ 
We're  going  to  give  it  to  you  at  the  beginning  of 
the  next  pass.     We  want  to  refine  our  data  a  little 
bit. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Hey,  I  found  the  intervalometer,  atuck 

under  the  seat  -  between  the  web  and  the  -  the 
metal  part.     ...  that. 


05  21  35  5^  CMP 


250  lens  on  there. 


Tape  9^B/2 


CMP  Okay.     (Singing)    Okeytedokeyte .     Let's  see  now. 

...  8,  ...  50,   ...  88  frames  -  take  lots  of  pic- 
tures.    Here's  frame  l60  on  Lima  Lima.     And  now 
configure  camera.     Okay,  Peirce  ...  that  ...  and 
then  mag  QQ's  standing  by  (whistling). 

05  21  38  1+8    CO  How'd  the  photos  go,  going  right  across  Arabia 

there,  on  this  last  -  little  bit  of  go,  Ron? 

CMP  Okay.     Yes,  those  were  good.     You  can  -  you  can 

kind  of  see  the  topographic  rise  in  the  Saenger 
area  especially,  it's  a  little  bit  higher  to  the 
west  of  Saenger  than  to  the  east.     But  you  can 
still  see  a  general  rise  in  that  area. 

CC  Roger. 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


You  get  a  kind  of  a  hint  of  the  -  the  second 
of  Arabia. 


ring 


Real  good,  Ron.  We  need  to  get  the  batt  ery  A  - 
terminate  the  charge  on  battery  A. 

05  21  39  39    CI4P  Okay,  BATT  CHARGER,  OFF.     And  A  looks  about 

37  volts.     RELAY  BUS  is  going  CLOSED. 


of  a  time  to  lose  my  map, 


CMP  (Singing)    There  it  is. 

CMP  Okay.     This  is  on  the  pan  camera  photos.  When 

you  want  to  start  looking  at  something,  look  for 
a  small  -  Okay,  just  to  the  east  of  Abul  Wafa, 
there's  a  small  crater.     About  -  on,  he  must  be 
about  2  to  kOO  meters  in  diameter.     And  he's  got 
a  black  strip  right  on  the  western  wall  -  going 
down  -  going  down  the  western  wall  of  the  crater. 
It  doesn't  look  like  the  strip  extends  beyond  the 
rim  at  all;  just  down  inside  the  crater  wall. 
Also  next  to  a  -  Now  I  forgot  where  I 


was 


Wnat  was  that  najne  of  that  crater  wi-ch  the  black 
wall  there;  where  -  where  was  it  near  again? 


CMP  Well,  it's  right  near  Abul  Wafa  on  the  first  ring 

of  Arabia. 


Tape  9^B/3 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  And  I  think  that  oiight  to  be  up  in  -  should  show 

up  in  the  pan  camera. 

CC  Okay,  good.     Good  show.     You  notice  the  swirls 

right  near  Ahul  Wafa? 

05  21  Itl  58    CMP  Yes,  I  really  saw  them  that  time.     And  where  the 

swirls,  they  really  show  up,  are  ahout  a  crater 
diameter  from  Firshov  -  crater  diameter  to  the 
west.     And  I  talked  about  it  on  the  tape.  But, 
basically  they're  kind  of  concentric  swirls  in 
that  area  with  light  and  dark.     And  the  contrast 
between  the  light  and  dark  is  -  is  something  tre- 
mendous.    The  dark  is  not  a  mare  dark  -  tan,  but 
it  comes  real  close  to  it. 


CC  Real  good.     Ron,  you're  coming  up  within  a  minute 

of  this  or  a  couple  minutes  of  this  orbital  science 
photo  of  Peirce  starting  at  -  in  the  Sea  of  Cr  - 
Crisium  and  going  through  Peirce  in  that  area. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see  that  ought  to  be  out  window  3. 

We  are  going  to  stay  f/3  all  the  way  across  with 
this  one,  huh? 

CC  No,  it  says  f/8  at  start.     And  then  according  to 

the  Flight  Plan,  you  change  to  f/5.6  and  you'll 
change  that  at  about  Macrobius  A.     And  then  you'll 
go  to  1/125  right  at  the  Littrow  area. 

05  21  43  31     CMP  Okay.     ...  do  I  want  to  jump  to  f/11  going  across 

those  highlands ,  huh?     At  -  on  the  western  edge  of 
Crisium? 

CC  Well,  see,  f/8  -  1  shows  f/Q  on  the  map  all  the 

way  across  Crisium,  starting  at  f/8  and  using  f/8 
all  the  way  across  Crisium. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see  there's  Picard  X,  so  we  should 

start  in  here  somewhere. 


CC 


Yes,  it's  those  rilles  or  whatever  you  call  -  rilles  , 
I  guess,  to  the  north  of  the  Picard  X  is  where  you 
start. 


Tape  9I+B/I+ 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  me  get  a  shot  of  those  -  oh,  come  on  . . . 
longer.     Okay,  we  started  it,  ...  then  about  10  [? 


time. 


05  21  hh  5h    CMP  Okay.     There  is  atsolutely  no  color  variation  on 

these  flow  fronts  or  scarps,  or  -  By  golly,  flow 
fronts,  looks  to  me  like.     Just  looking  north, 
right  from  the  Picard  X. 

CC  Roger.     You'd  call  them  flow  fronts  and  - 

CMP  Well,  flow  front,  or  -  or  I've  hardly  even,  it's  - 

let  me  see  they're  bright  on  the  high  side,  as 
you're  looking  north.     You  know,  they're  -  they're 
bright  on  the  high  side.     I  would  presume  they 
kind  of  run  east  and  west. 


Roger.  According  to  the  map,  they're  just  exactly 
east  and  west. 


CMP  -  -  ...  inside  of  them.  Yes. 

CC  Your  photo  path  goes  directly  between  Peirce  and 

Pease  -  Peirce  Bravo.     And  then  leads  up  toward 
Peirce  Charlie  just  a  little  bit  north  of  Peirce 
Charlie. 


CMP  Okay. 

05  21  1+6  21    CMP  Well,  Peirce  Charlie  has  really  got  some  black 

lines  going  down,  vertical  down  them. 


CC 


You  talking  about  inside  the  crater,  black  vertical 
lines  inside  the  crater? 


Yes,  inside  the  crater.     And  it  also  looks  like 
it  carries  on  across.     As  I  get  a  little  bit  closer, 
I'll  see  if  it  carries  on  across  or  not.  This 
can't  be  shadow.     You  can  still  see  the  darker 
sjinulus  around  -  Peirce.     Peirce  Bravo 's  also  got 
a  dark  annulus  around  it.     In  Peirce  Bravo  has 
only  -  goes  out  to  about  a  half  a  crater  diameter, 
tho-ogh . 


CC 


Roger . 


Tape  9i+B/5 


CMP  Well,  you  know  Peirce  Charlie  looks  like  -  the 

sides  of  the  South  Massif,  almost.     Look  down  in 
that.     In  other  words,  it  is  kind  of  highly  eroded, 
elongate  crater. 

CMP  ...  are  all  vertical;  you  know,  I  don't  -  I  don't  - 

vertical  is  the  only  way  I  know  how  to  describe 
them.     They  point  toward  the  -  you  know,  radial  - 
they  point  radial,  but  they  all  point  toward  the 
middle  of  the  crater. 

CO  Roger. 

CMP  Does  that  make  sense?  (Laughter) 

CC  We  will  try  to  salve  them  out.     Yes,  that  makes 

sense,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Peirce  Charlie  was  right  in  the  middle  of  a  little 

framelet  there.     South  of  Microbius,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  just  a  little  bit  south  of  Mic  -  Maerobius 

there.     Lay  it  on  the  edge  of  it  actually,  and  on 
the  nor  -  southern  edge  of  Maerobius . 

CMP  Okay. 


CC 


As  you  get  up  ahead,  between  the  contact  line 
between  the  mare  and  the  highlands  at  Maerobius  Alfa, 
is  where  you'll  change  to  5.6. 


CMP  Okay. 

05  21  1+9  5^    CMP  Hey,  do  we  go  north  of  Maerobius  Alfa? 

CC  Boy,  it  looks  like  you  just,  yes,  you're  north  of 

Maerobius  Alfa.     That's  affirm.     You're  even  jusT. 
a  little  bit  north  of  Maerobius  Bravo. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  ...  what  I  mean  ...  Maerobius  Bravo. 

Boy,  it's  a  beautiful  -  between  Maerobius  Bravo 
and  Maerobius  there  is  a  beautiful  -  ray  excluded  - 
what  you  call  it  ~  butterfly  I     Little  butterfly  - 
about  a  1000-meter  crater. 


Tape  9W6 


CC  Roger, 

CMP  Got  him  (laughter).  5.6. 

CMP  You  know  this   

CC  Okay,  you  ought  to  he  changing  5.6. 

CMP  Okay.     I^t's  see  about  5  -  Now  here  again  is 

where  Sun  angle  may  make  a  little  bit  of  difference 
on  the  thing.     But  this  kind  of  a  hummocky,  well 
close  to  sculptured-hill-type  of  material  that  we 
are  flying  over  between  Proclus  and  Macroblus  A 
and  B,  doesn't  look  at  all  like  the  Sculptured 
Hills  m  the  landing  site  area,  next  to  -  In  other 
words,  all  along  the  edge  of  Crisium,  or  the  edge 
of  Serenitatis  you  have  the  sculptured-hills  effect 
that  have  the  vertical,  dark  lineations ■ in  it . 
These  vertical,  radial  or  whatever  you  want  to  - 
Imeations,  striations,  I  guess,  dark  striations 
are  not  apparent  under  the  western  edge  of  Crisium 
at  all.     Where  does  this  come  out  by  the  landing 
site?     North  of  the  landing  site? 

05  21  52  16    CC  Roger.     You're  quite  a  bit  north  of  the  site  You 

are  over  Li  -  Littrow.     In  fact,  you're  nor-h  of 
Littrow. 

CMP  Over  Littrow? 

CC  You're  north  of  Littrow. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  to  get  the  Littrow  ... 

Okay ,  when  you  cross  into  the  mare  on  Serenity 
there,  after  Littrow,  you  want  to  change  to  1/25. 

...   25;  okay.     So  that'll  be  - 

05  21  5h  26    CC  And,  Ron,  this  is  camera  path  ends  at  Eessel  A  - 

Eessel  Alfa  in  the  Sea  of  -  in  Serenity  - 
Serenitatis , 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


Okay.     Okay,  let's  see,  that's  beyond  the  -illes 
out  ^  there.     Let's  see,  it's  quite  a  -  in  zhe  ir.idale 
isn  t  it  -  way  out  there.  Okay. 


Tape  9^B/T 


CC  Yes,  you  cross  those  east-west  -  east-west  running 

rilles  there  in  Serenitatis  and  then  get  right  up 
to  the  Bess el. 

CMP  Okay . 

CiVIP  Well,  I  don't  think  that  scarp  could  be  a  flow 

front  across  there,  hut  it  sure  does  look  like  it. 
The  thing  that  changes  your  mind  about  it  being  a 
flow  front  is  that  it  goes  up  to  North  Massif.  I 
couldn't  see  any  real  continuation.     It  looks  like 
there's  two  possible  continuations  on  a  south  side 
and  the  South  Massif.     I'll  have  to  take  another 
look  at  that  the  next  time  around. 

CC  Okay,  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO  when  you  get  a  chance 

there,  Ron.     And  you  got  to  switch  over  for  this 
terminator  photo  P29  Charlie  on  Sulpicius  Callus. 

CMP  Okay. 

05  21  5T  18    CMP  Okay.     Serenitatis  Sulpicius  Gallus ,  huh? 

CC  Roger.    You  get  -  - 

CMP  Two  of  500. 


CC 


And  then  f/ll  on  the  mountains  right  behind,  right 
to  the  west  of  Sulpicius  Gallus.     That's  using  a 
250-millimeter. 


CMP  Okay.     These  are  250  m  -  250,  f/22.     Okay,  and  it's 

mag  Quebec  Quebec,  starting  at  79. 

CC  Got  it,  starting  at  79.  Roger. 

CMP  Got  six  and  one  -  yes,  which  window  was  the  - 

CC  I  don't  have  my  friendly  helper  here  or  I  could 

give  it  to  you. 

CMP  There's  the  ones  that's  going  to  be  ...  (laughter). 

CC  CM-5  is  what  we  think. 

CMP  ...  seeing  it  out  of  window  3. 


Tape  gkB/Q 


CC  Try  CM- 5,  Ron. 

CMP  And  -  Yes,  that  CM-5  is  . . .       Okay,  about  six  of 

them  around  Sulpicius  Gallus  there.     There's  22 
to  500. 


CC 


CMP 


CC 
CMP 


CMP 


CC 


cc 

CMP 


Okay .  Get  those  Haemus  Mountains  right  to  the 
west  of  Sulpicius  Gallus. 


CMP  Yes . 

CC  Then,  you  get  D-Caldera. 


Okay.  Hope  I  can  find  it  this  time  again  (laughter) 
Wouldn't  that  be  a  heck  of  a  note? 


CC  You  better  believe  it. 

05  21  59  32    CMP  Try  to  take  a  picture  of  it  and  couldn't  find  it 

(laughter).     Okay.     Let's  see,  1,  2,  3,  k,  5, 
Okay,  next  one  is  11. 


Okay.    On  D-Caldera,  you  want  to  go,  f/8  at  1/250. 

Okay.     Let  me  get  some  of  these  mare.     Still  got 
to  get  the  Haemus  Mountains  there. 


CC  Okay. 


And  got  to  get  some  of  the  -  Okay,  D-Caldera. 
250th,  huh? 


Yes,  1/250  f/8,  f/8,  1/250  on  D-Caldera. 
05  22  01  31    CMP  Okay.     I  found  it. 

CMP  Okay.     What's  the  next  one? 

CC  Okay.     I  don't  even  know  what  the  name  of  it  is. 

It's  just  immediately  up  that  hill  and  rille  there, 
Just  immediately  to  the  west  of  D-Caldera. 

CMP  Okay . 


Looks  like  it  would  be  right  at  the  terminator. 
...  125th.     Yes,  it  is,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 


Tape  9^B/9 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Ron,  when  -  soon  as  you're  done  with  the  photos, 
you  might  check  the  laser  altimeter.     We  -  it 
went  belly  up  during  this  photo  pass  -  just  ab- 
solutely quit  like  you  had  shut  it  off  with  your 
toe  or  something. 

Thank  you.     Okay,     It  is  off,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 
Shall  I  turn  it  on  now? 

Why  don't  you  turn  it  on  so  we'll  get  a  check  here, 
and  then  it'll  be  coining  off  in  a  second.  Think 
you  got  it  with  a  toe  or  something? 


05  22  03  32    CMP  Okay.     It's  ON.     I  must  have. 

CC  Okay.     It's  working  good,  too. 

CMP  I  wonder  if  I  ever  turned  -  I  wonder  if  I  ever 

toirned  it  on? 

CC  Wo,  it  was  -  it  was  on  and  running,  Ron.  And 

then  all  of  a  sudden,  about  5  minutes  ago,  we  got 
just  a  complete  belly  up;  no  power  to  it  at  all. 

CMP  Oh.     Well,  I'll  tell  you,  I've  (chuckle)  worn  the 

toes  throiigh  in  my  underwear  here,  so  you  do  a  lot 
of  rolling  aroimd  (chuckle).     Let's  see  -  let's 
recapitulate  here.     In  mag  QQ,  we're  on  frame  lO^i. 

CMP  I'm  not  sure  where  it  was  when  we  started  on  that 

one. 


? 


CC  I  think  you  gave  me  a  call  at  79,  didn't  you 

CMP  I  didn't  write  it  down  (chuckle). 

CC  That's  all  right.     You  -  We've  gotten  all  your 

calls.     I  think  Tommy  can  pick  that  one  up. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Tommy's  shaking  his  head  that  he's  got  it  all 

sauared  away.     So,  if  the  bookkeeper's  right, 
we're  right. 


CMP 


Oh,  okay  (laughter). 


Tape  9^B/10 


CC 


And  you  can  go  ahead  and  start  down  that  line  now. 
We've  seen  the  laser  altimeter  enough,  I  think. 

05  22  05  32    CMP  Okay.     I  have  the  camera  OFF.     Yes,  it's  dark  down 

there.     I'm  not  getting  any  more  pictures.  Okay. 

05  22  05  1+6    CMP  MAPPING  CAMERA  to  OFF.     Wait  30  seconds,  it  says. 

Okay.    Rolling  them  up. 

CC  Okay.     You've  got  MAPPING  CAMERA  to  STANDBY  and 

IMAGE  MOTION,  OFF. 

05  22  06  39     CMP  Okay.     MAPPING  CAMERA  to  STANDBY.     OFF,  barberpole , 

gray.  LASER  ALTIMETER,  OFF.  Okay.  We've  already' 
in  CMC  FREE,  and  we're  rolling  left. 


CC 


CMP 


CC 

CMP 

CC 


CC 


Roger.    Ron,  INCO  just  asked  me  to  remind  you  that 
those  high  gain  angles  that  you  see  in  this  block 
here  are  strictly  if  ve  lose  lock  here  during  the 
manuever.     That's  the  reacquire  angle. 

Okay.     That's  after  we  get  the  attitude.  Okay. 


CC  Watching  your  buddies  on  the  screen  down  here 

right  now,  and  they've,  believe  me,  they've  got 
more  black  showing  than  they  do  white  right  now  - 
of  those  suits.     They've  really  been  down  among 
them. 

CMP  They  out  to  the  Scarp  yet? 


Yes,  they're  -  Let  me  ask  Bob  here. 

At  the  edge  of  the  mountain?     Have  they  -  - 

They've  gone  up  and  down  the  Scarp.     Wh  - 


CMP  Okay.     They've  gone  all  the  way  past  station  2 

and  then  they're  going  to  station  k,  huh? 


Roger.     Let's  see,  they're  -  they're  at  station  3 
right  now,  matter  of  fact.     That's  where  "Chey  were 
showing  them  on  TV.     They've  been  up  the  ^Massif 
and  up  to  station  2,  and  now  they're  back  down 
to  station  3. 


Tape  9^B/11 


05  22  08  k2    CMP  Okay,  Mike  Mike  is  at  95-     I  don't  know  if  I  ever 

told  you  that  or  not.     I  think  I  always  get  more 
pictures  than  I'm  supposed  to. 

CC  We  decided  that  what  you're  doing  is  trying  to  use 

up  all  the  crew  options  "before  Jack  gets  up  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)     You  guessed  it! 

CMP  Hey,  yes,  which  reminds  me,  if  -  you  know,  you  get 

to  a  point  where  we've  got  one  of  these  mags  that 
doesn't  have  enough  for  a  complete  set,  you  know 
we  could  make  those  options  on  the  end  of  a  -  a 
reel  and  use  Papa  Papa,  there. 

CC  Roger.     That's  -  that's  affirmative. 

CC  Ron,  I  got  to  ask  this  -  During  the  last  eat 

period,  did  you  leave  the  Hasselblad  running  with- 
out a  mag  in  it,  just  to  pull  our  chain? 

CMP  (Laughter)    No,  honest  I  didn't;  I  really  didn't. 

You  heard  something  clicking  all  the  time,  huh? 

CC  Roger.     It's  very  periodic,  Just  like  it  was  on 

the  intervalometer  and  it  sounded  Just  like  -  Just 
like  the  Hasselblad  sounded  this  last  time.  Just 
exactly  like  it. 

CC  Tommy  was  Just  pulling  his  hair  out  over  there. 

CMP  Did  -  have  I  used  up  any  more  film  on  some  of  these 

than  I  should  have? 

05  22  11  08    CC  Wo,  we  haven't  caught  any,  anomalies  in  the  film 

usage. 

CMP  (Humming:     "Who's  afraid  of  the  Big  Bad  Wolf") 

CMP  ...   32;  roll  attitude. 

05  22  ll+  39     CMP  You  know,   I  just  noticed  something  that  I  didn't 

know  before. 


CC 


What's  that? 


Tape  9^B/12 


CMP 


CMP 

CMP 

CO 

CMP 


That  is  that  the  -  when  you  manuever,  you  know, 
in  a  simulator,  it's  Just  like  the  eye-view  ball. 
You  know,  it's  nice,  smooth  transition,  you  know.' 
You  look  at  the  GDC  hall  and  it  goes,  it  kind  of' 
takes  a  jump  in  pitch  and  then  a  jump  in  yaw;  a 
jump  in  pitch  and  then  a  jump  in  yaw.  You  put  it 
on  ball  2  ...  ball  1  and  it  all  does  the  same  thing. 


CC  Roger. 


Yes,  it  does  the  same  thing.     That's  just  the  way 
the  GDC  operates  I  guess. 

Yes,  not  the  -  not  the  ball,  it's  just  the  GDC. 

Roger.    The  G&C  is  -  just  said  that's  a  nominal. 

Well,  I'm  sure  it  is,  but,  you  know,  I  just  didn't 
even  know  it.     Because  I  hadn't  noticed  it  before 
I  guess,  either.  ' 

05  22  18  55     CC  Ron,  while  you're  sitting  there  watching  this  man- 

uever to  completion,  I've  got  some  read-up  from 
the     orbital  science  report  for  the  CMP  if  you 
would  like  to  hear  it? 

CMP  Yes,  I  sure  would.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     Let's  talk  about  the  UV.     The  far  UV  spec- 

trometer data  has  been  excellent  throughout  the 
mission.     Indications  are  that  the  hydrogen  atmos- 
phere of  the  Moon  is  much  less  than  expected.  The 
Aerobee  launched  from  White  Sands  on  Monday  failed 
to  get  solar  UV  calibration  because  an  instrument 
viewing  port  failed  to  open.     A  second  Aerobee 
flight  is  scheduled  for  tomorrow.     The  IR  scaiining 
radiometer  is  performing  beautifully.  Indications 
are  that  the  subsolar  point  surface  temperatures 
are  higher  than  Earth-based  observations  predicted. 
Many  thermal  anomalies  are  being  seen  in  the  Ocean' 
Procellarum  area  west  of  Copernicus.     A  few  unusual 
cold^ spots  have  also  been  detected  indicating  areas 
of  fine  soil  with  few  and  no  blocks.     The  lunar 
sounder  data  is  excellent  and  the  specular  power 
monitor  signals  correlate  with  surface  features; 
HF  data  indicates  that  layers  are  being  detected 
in  the  mare  areas.  Over. 


Tape  9ta/l3 


05  22  20  li+     CMP  Hey,  "beautiful.     Man  oh  man.     That  sounds  like  all 

that  stuff's  working  good.     Outstanding.  That's 
good  -  good  to  hear. 

CC  Roger.     And  don't  voTTy  about  that  short  period 

of  time  the  laser  altimeter  was  off;  it  shouldn't 
affect  anything. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  And  anytime  you  can  reach  over  there,  Ron,  it's 

tank  2  FMs  to  ON  for  the  night. 

05  22  20  18    CMP  Okay,  tank  2  FANs  are  going  OK. 

05  22  25  hi    CMP  Hear  it  rattling.     It  must  be  pretty  close  to 

attitude.  Yes. 

05  22  25  Us    CC  Roger.     You've  got  a  50  l8  on  the  DSKY. 

CMP  Okay.     You  know,  it  doesn't  shakie,  rattle,  and 

roll  as  much  since  we  got  rid  of  that  tin  can. 
But  it  still  does  a  little  bit,  you  know,  you 
get  a  -  it  is  a  little  more  dynamic  than  I  had 
thought  it  would  be. 

CC  We'd  like  ACCEPT,  we've  got  a  Jet-on  monitor  load 

for  you,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

05  22  26  30    CMP  There  you  got  ACCEPT. 

CC  You're  trying  to  say  you've  got  a  -  you're  prej- 

udiced and  you  think  you've  got  a  better  flying 
vehicle  than  somebody  else. 

05  22  26  kk    CMP  (Laughter)     I  just  said  it  doesn't  shake,  rattle, 

Eind  roll  as  much  as  it  did  when  -  when  the  other 
guys  were  on  there. 


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Tape  95A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  21  03  00    LI/EP-EVA     ...  my  camera's  going  be  -  - 

CC  You  copy  on  the  SEP  receiver  turn  on  and 

temperature? 

LI-4P-El'A    Right.     You  want  that  closed? 

CDR-E\'A    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Mag . 

CDR-EVA    We  got  that,  Bob. 
LiMP-EVA    It's  closed. 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 
KiP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     17,  take  all  that  back,  we've  just  had  a 

change  of  heart  back  here.     And  we're  not  going 
to  turn  the  SEP  on,  just  cover  it  up.     And  you 
might  give  us  a  temperature  reading  as  you  go  by; 
that'll  help  us  think  what  to  do  with  it. 

05  21  03  30     CDR-EVA    It's  about  98. 

CC  Copy  98,  then  leave  them  both  off. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

IT,  John  and  Charlie  are  kind  of  advising  you  to 
put  that  SC  -  that  full  SCB  underneath  the"  seat  to 
keep  -  make  sure  the  top  doesn't  bounce  open  and 
lose  some  of  those  rocks. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you  can't  take  better  advice  than  from  those 
who  have  been  here , 

CC  Roger  on  that . 


CDR-EVA 


CC 


Their  advice  has  been  pretty  good  so  far. 
I  won't  pass  that  on  to  them,  I  think  they  - 


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CDR-EVA    These  locks  are  clanming  up.  Jack.     I  can't  un- 
lock that  one  now. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  lock  that  one? 

CDR-EVA    They  all  get  sticky. 

LMP-EVA    That  one  just  didn't  want  to  work  any  more. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  see.     It  isn't  moving  either  way.     This  one 
this  one  was  sticky,  too.     Let  me  see. 

LMP-EVA    CUT'S  open,  right? 

CDR-EVA  Huh? 

LMP-EVA    OUT  is  open   

CDR-EVA    OUT  is  OPEN,  yes.     Let  me  try  once  more  if  I 
have  to  -  Here  I  got  it . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  those  are  really  getting  dusty.     I'll  hit 
those  with  a  dust  brush  next  time  around. 

05  21  05  11     CDR-EVA    Charge  that  time  up  to  John  and  Charlie! 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     What  haven't  we  done? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  got  to  get  the  camera.     Okay,  Bob,  I'm 
taking  your  camera. 


CC 


Okay,  looks  like  it's  in  the  right  place,  as  long 
as  it's  turned  around.     Good  coordination. 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.     Okay.     We  read  the  TGE,  I'm  going 
MODE  1. 

CC  Roger  on  that.     Okay;  we  lost  the  picture. 

CC  And  give  me  a  call  when  you  guys  get  rollinf:^. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC  And  we'd  like  frames  when  it's  convenient  on  you 

guys . 

IMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob. 
05  21  06  l6     LMP-EVA    Okay.     LMP  is  at  h6. 


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CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  CDR ,  is  at,  if  I  stop  long  enough,  113. 
CC  Copy.  113. 

mP-EVA    Oh,  look  at  that.     Boy,  I  tell  you.     Okay,  Geno, 
why  don't  I  follow  our  tracks  back;  well,  Tintil 
we  get  over  the  big  hump  and  then  we  can  start 
picking  our  way  to  3- 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  3  pretty  well  spotted. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay;  low  gain  is  set,  and  heading  about 
035  -  oh,  let  me  set  this  thing  out  of  the  way 
again.     This  has  been  giving  me  more  trouble. 

CDR-EVA    What's  that?     The  haramer? 

K4P-EVA    Yes,  the  handle. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  getting  caught  in  there? 

05  21  07  25    LI4P-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     We're  ready,  we're  rolling.     You  need 

any  readings? 

CC  Ho,  no  readings  called  out.     And  when  you  get  go- 

ing, I'll  give  you  a  little  advice  on  what  we're 
going  to  do  on  the  way  to  station  3. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  let  me  tell  you  a  few  things  first.  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  start  telling  me. 

LMP-EVA  I  think  those  two   

05  21  07  CDR-EVA  We're  rolling! 

LI^P-EVA    All  right.     Those  two  major  kinds  of  blocks  that 
we  sampled  there  -  it  was  about  the  two  varieties 
we  saw  in  the  area,  it's  a  long  extrapolation  I 
realize,  but  they  do  resemble  in  color,  and  I 
believe  in  texture,  the  blue-gray  rocks  and  the 
light  tan  rocks  up  on  the  Massif.     So  I  feel  con- 
fident that  -  fairly  confident  that  we  sr-unplcd  aL 
least  the  two  major  units  visible  from  a  dist.arK-c 
in  the  South  Massif. 


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CC  Excellent,  excellent. 

LMP-EVA     I  think  that  there  is  some  -  a  lot  of  postmission 
worlt  to  be  done  on  correlating  the  angialarity  and 
possibly  even  the  albedoes  of  the  rocks  we  sampled 
vlth  those  on  the  Massif.     We  should  have  good  - 
good  pictures  of  them  -  of  both  from  a  distance 
and  up  close. 


CC 


Okay.     I'm  reminding  you 


LMP-EVA    So  we  may  be  able  ...   

'^^   That  extrapolation  is  the  nature  of  our  art . 

LMP-EVA    Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.     And,  Bob,  I'm  not  going  to  - 
How  ajn  I  on  the  film? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  my  golly!     Look  at  that  valley! 

05  21  09  10     CC  Stand  by.     I'll  get  that  for  you,  Jack  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  think  there's  a  -  - 

I'™  picking  you  up  fairly  well,  now.     And  before 
you  guys  get  too  far,  a  couple  of  comments  we  want 
to  do  on  the  way.     If  -  there  is  a  Rover  sample 
stop  in  your  checklist,  it  used  to  be  at  the 
073  and  6.3;  it's  the  first  thing  there,  halfway 
out  to  Hole-in-the-Wall.     And  we're  now  going  to 
have  that  Rover  sample  stop  at  078  and  7.0.  That 
should  be  along  your  tracks  going  home.  So, 
about  078  and  7-0,  we'll  have  the  Rover  sample 
stop.     And  the  gravimeter  people  have  won  today, 
and  we're  going  to  stop  and  get  off  the  Rover  and 
get  a  gravimeter  reading  at  that  location.  We're 
taking  out  another  stop,  I'm  not  sure  quite  where. 
And  right  now.  Jack,  you're  right  on  on  the  film 
says  a  little  note  in  front  of  me. 

MP-EVA    Okay.     I'll  take  pictures,  then. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  we're  on  the  top,  coming  off  the  highest  lobe 
of  the  scarp  looking  back  into  the  valley.  And 
it's  quite  a  scene  back  there,  but  we  still  cannot 
see  the  LM.     That  may  be  it  -  T  don't  know. 


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LMP-EVA    Hey,  turn  a  partial  pan,  I  know  it's  into  the  Cyan. 
Wait  a  minute.     Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let's  take  one  from  right  here.     I  want  - 
I  want  tne  whole  thing. 

CDR-EVA  You  ready  to  start? 

05  21  10  28    Lt4P-EVA  Yes,  I  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Start  taking.     Well,  that's  - 

CDR-EVA  Take  the  whole  thing. 

LMP-EVA  Go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  Get  around  this  crater. 

LMP-EVA  I  got  a  pan  down  in  the  valley.     This  is  Just 
going  to  be  right  into  the  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Don't  take  that  one.     Get  it  up  as  we  come 
around.     You  get  it?     There  we  go. 

Lf^P-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  one  we  want.     And  you  got  the  valley? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Keep  going.     Okay.     Keep  turning  around 
over  there,  and  I'll  get  that  scarp. 

CDR-EVA    That's  beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    Isn't  that  something?    Man,  you  talk  about  a 

mysterious  looking  place.     They  can  cut  some  fra.nes 
some  parts  of  those  pictures  out  and  make  a  nice 
photograph.      (Laughter)     TV  cameras,  maps  - 

05  21  11  10     LMP-EVA    Okay,  looking  at  the  north  man  -  the  light  mantle. 

No  more  comments  except  that  by  that  rake  sainule 
and  just  looking,  there's  certainly  -  are  fewer 
fragments  than  we  saw  at  station  2.     The  main 
thing  that  we  can  tell  about  the  light  mantle  and 
when  we're  on  it,  of  course,  is  the  light-colored 
craters .     The  fresher  craters  all  appear  to  be 
light  colored.     As  they  get  older,  they  seem  to  - 
the  albedo  goes  down  and  potentially  have  been 


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dusted  with  material  from  the  dark  mantle  or 
from  other  sites.     Either  that  or  it's  just  the 
lunar  patination  that  we're  all  familiar  with. 

CDR-EVA    You  know ,  it ' s  a  shame .     They  could  have  had  TV 

coming  down  here  because  my  heading  isn't  going  to 
change  much  at  all.  The  high  gain  could  have  heen 
on  the  whole  time . 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  none  of  the  craters  out  here  in  the  light 

mantle  appear  to  show  -  they've  got  new  bedrock. 
Almost  all  of  them  are  instant  rock  craters. 

CDR-EVA    Say,  Bob.     Give  me  that  bearing  and  range  again 
for  the   

mP-EVA    TO  right  here. 

CO  07  and  7.0. 

05  21  12  32    CDR-EVA    up  on  the  hill.     How  about  071  and  7.0?  Will 

that  do? 

Yes.     I  think  that  that  will  be  enough  to  hack  it. 
CDR-EVA    Well ,  if  not ,  we  can  go  down  there . 


CC 


No,  no,  no.  Stay  on  the  road  -  stay  on  the  road 
you're  on. 


CDR-EVA  Well,  I'm  not  on  any  road,  but  I'm  stopping  here, 

CO  I  thought  you  guys  were  making  a  road  - 

CDR-EVA  071 . 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  turn  it  off. 

CC  Yes,  also  -  - 

LMP-EVA  ...  98  and  70. 


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CC  Okay.     And  the  Rover  . . .   should  he  fairly  flat  for 

the  ole  gravimeter. 

Cm-EVA    Oh,  oh. 

GDR-EVA    Well  -  That  means  we  have  to  change  here. 
LMP-EVA    Hey,  right  over  here  to  my  right  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Mayhe  it's  the  hest  we  can  do,  but  it's  still  going 
to  be  on  a  slope. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  level  it  off  on  a  local  -  - 

LMP-EVA    On  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  on.     Do  you  see  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  see  it.     Right  there. 

CDR-EVA    On  the  rim  of  that  crater  that's  huilded  up  a 
little  bit?     Right  up  here.     What's  your  -  can 
you  tell  your  roll?     Okay,  now  that's  about  aero 
right  there.     What's  your  roll? 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  turn  this  off. 

CDR-EVA  What's  your  roll  indicator  ... 

LMP-EVA  Oh;  zero. 

CDR-EVA  Zero? 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  punch  it. 

LMP-EVA  You'll  change  it  as  soon  as  you  get  off. 


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CDR-EVA  Oh,  it's  zero. 

rj-IP-EVA  Oh,  you  got  to  get  off  anyway? 

CDR-EVA  Do  I  have  to  get  off  for  this? 

CC  Roger.     Both  of  you  get  off. 

IMP-EVA  Gravimeter  reading. 

CDR-EVA  Why  should  I  have  to  get  off? 

So  you  don't  move  the  ole  gravimeter. 

LMP-EVA  Think  you  can  hold  still? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     I'll  hold  still. 

05  21  li+  06    CC  No.     Negative  on  that.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Give  me  your  sampler  cause  that's  the 
other  thing  I  have  to  do. 

CC  Yes.     We'll  get  bag  samples  here  -  Rover  samples, 

at  least . 

CDR-EVA    But  you  need  me  off  to  sample? 

CC  Roger.     We  want  Jack  -  Gene  and  Jack  both  off. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  if  you  need  me  off;  Jack,  Just  punch  it. 

MP-EVA    Okay.     Hold  still.     They  don't  know  anything  about 
your  PLSS  noise. 

CDR-EVA  We'll  get  off. 

CC  Gene,  we'd  like  both  of  you  off. 

LI4P-EVA  07  -  071,  9.8,  and  7-0,  Bob. 

CC  Got  that. 

CDR-EVA  Don't  push  it  yet  -  did  you? 

LMP-EVA  No . 


05  21  ll+  59  CDR-EVA 
mP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
IMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

05  21  15  30  LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

LI^-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


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Okay.    Go  ahead.    Push  it. 

Let  me  wait  until  it  settles  down  here. 

This  thing  is  off  tape  START,  isn't  it? 

Oh  -  if  this  thing  doesn't  change. 

Oh ,  that  should  he  good  -  - 

Yes,  it  does  change  -  vibrate  a  couple  of  times. 
Huh? 

Vibrate  a  couple  of  times. 
No,  the  settings. 

Oh,  I  don't  know  -  yes,,  they'll  change. 
Okay.     Quiet  Rover.  Gravity. 
MARK  it. 
Copy  that. 

Say,  Bob,  I  need  a  quick  f-stop  for  the  500. 
F-stop • 

It's  the  same  -it's  the  same  film. 
Stand  by. 

Hey,  Bob,  can  I  punch  it  again? 

Oh  yes.     Go  to  STANDBY  and  then  punch  it  aj^ain. 

...   time  out,  do  you?     Go  to  STANDBY. 

Stand  by. 

Stand  by.  Jack. 

Okay. 


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05  21  15  56    LMP-EVA    MARK  It. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CC  Okay.     And,  Geno,  f-stop  for  the  500  millimeter 

should  "be  the  same  as  -  for  the  70. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And,  Jack,  I  presume  you're  getting  some  Rover 

samples  here  off  the  Rover. 

LMP-EVA     Bag  30  Easy. 

CC  Copy.     30  Easy.     Are  you  guys  finding  much  in  the 

■way  of  rocks  here? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  looking.     I  can  get  you  some  instant  rock  out 
of  a  small  pit  crater  -  pit  bottom  crater. 

05  21  17  25     MP-EVA    Bob,  up  to  frame  count  36  is  the  outcrop  or  boulders 

at  the  top  of  the  South  Massif. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Bag  31  Easy.     Instant  rock  out  of  a  2-meter  pit 
bottom  crater  -  off  the  inner  wall. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  make  it  30  centimeters  down  from  the 
rim , 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  17.     We've  got  about  30  seconds  left  for 

that  gravimeter  reading.     You  want  to  be  finishing 
up  the  task  and  getting  back  toward  the  Rover. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     And  through  frame  count  57  are  the 

Korth  Massif  and  -  from  part  of  the  western  por- 
tions to  part  of  the  eastern  portions. 


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CC  Okay,  now;  and  what  was  that  frame  count? 

CC  Okay.     Copy  the  57,  then. 

CDR-EVA  Here's  something  different  -  here's  a  little  -  - 

CC  Hey,  guys,  we're  ready  for  the  gravimeter  reading. 


And  we'd  like  a  frame  count  from  you.  Jack.  I 
guess  if  you'd  prefer  -  - 

LMP-EVA    A  chunk  of  yellow -brown  rock  that  apparently  has 
several  spots  behind  it,  probably  indicating  di- 
rection from  which  it  came  -  Oh,  no  -  What  is  that? 
That's  a  reflection  (laughter).     That  really  fooled 
me.     A  reflection  off  the  I^lar  (laughter).  Crazy. 
Well,  what  the  heck,  I'll  sample  it  anyway. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  get  my  antenna  set  so  -  it's  not 
quite  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Is  it  through  reading? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  through  reading.     I'll  -  Probably  read 
it  better  by  now.  Bob.     I've  got  Family  Mountain 
and  some  of  the  hills  way  up  to  the  right  of 
Family  Mountain.     I'm  at  67  on  the  -  on  the  -  500 
Eind  I'll  give  you  the  reading  on  the  gravimeter. 

CC  Okay.     Copy.     67  on  Family  Mountain. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  get  the  other  words  on  the  500? 

CC  Roger.     Copied  them  all. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you  were  reading  at  probably  a  90-degree 
low-gain  angle . 

CC  Roger.    W^e've  been  reading  them  on  the  LM  also. 

LMP-EVA    Thirty-two  Easy  is  another  -  just  small  -  another 
small  fragment . 

CC  You  know  what  I  need? 


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05  21  20  56  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

05  21  21  5^+  CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Okay,  670,  123,  501  -  6T0 ,  123  501. 

Okay.     Copy  that,  Geno.     And  we're  ready  for  you 
guys  to  go  on  at  your  earliest  convenience. 

Do  you  want  me  to  load  the  LRV  sampler? 

Go  ahead.  Yes. 

And,  Jack,  is  that  your  last  LRV  sample  bag? 
I  only  had  one  left,  but  it's  loaded  now. 
Okay. 

You  did  get  the  reading,  right.  Bob? 
Roger.     Got  the  reading. 
Okay.    We're  buttoning  up. 

Okay.    And  if  you've  got  something  -  if  you  don't 
have  one  left  for  that  sample  at  Hole-in-the-Wall , 
Jack,  we'd  like  you  to  get  a  new  set  of  sample 
bags  . 

We ' ve  got  it . 

Okay.     Got  it.     Still  understand  that  32  Echo  was 
your  last  sample. 

Thirty-two  Echo.     Got  three  here. 

Okay. 

Oh,  oh. 

Okay? 

Yes. 

Need  some  help? 

No.     I've  got  the  Rover. 

Was  that  me? 


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CDR-EVA  No. 

CDR-EVA    That  was  interesting.     Bob,  about  2  inches  below 
the  surface  here ,  you  ran  into  that  very  -  that 
blue-gray  material  down  there  and  it  just  -  it's 
in  little  clods ,  and  it  breaks  apart  in  your  hands . 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  that's  right, 

CDR-EVA  Did  you  get  some  of  that  in  your  Rover  sample? 

LMP-EVA  No,  but  I  got  it  out  of  that  instant  rock  crater. 

CDR-EVA  Let's  grab  a  quick  Rover  sample  and  we'll  take  off. 

LMP-EVA    That's  why  that  was  a  pretty  interesting  (laughter) 
episode . 

05  21  23  06     CDR-EVA    Yes.     Well,  you  know,  we  haven't  been  trenching  like 

we  should  or  we  would  have  -  - 

LMP-EVA    But,  really  those  trenches  -  those  craters  are 
giving  us  the  same  information.     That  there's  a 
light-colored  material  underneath. 

CC  Okay.     17,  we're  ready  for  you  guys  to  move  on 

and  we'd  like  to  eliminate  the  Rover  sample  at 
Hole-in- the-Wall . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     We're  getting  on  now. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    We  got  on  a  minute  ago  (laughter) 

CC  And,  do  I  understand  that  these  Rover  samples. 

Jack,  are  in  your  pockets? 

LMP-EVA  No.     They're  in  the  bag  on  the  Rover. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Forty  Yankee. 

CC  Copy  that. 


Tape  95A/lli 


LMP-EVA    That's  light-colored  soil  from  a  depth  of  a"bGut  - 
it's  mixed  vith  a  little  of  the  upper  surface,  but 
mostly  light-colored  soil  from  a  depth  of  about 
15  centimeters . 

GDR-EVA    Wonder  what  would  I  do  for  an  encore? 

LMP-EVA    It  looks  like  the  light  mantle  in  here  is  covered 
with  dark  to  a  depth  of  about  5  or  10  centimeters. 

CDR-EVA    You  might  want  to  go  MIN,  Jack,  on  your  diverter. 

LMP-EVA    Right  now,  I'm  sort  of  warm. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     When  we  start  driving,  you  might  want  to  go. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  zap  myself  with  a  cold.     I  can  do  it 
on  here . 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  take  any  pictures  at  all  while  you  were 
there? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes.     I  didn't  take  a  pan.     Why  don't  you  turn 
right  to  a  , . . ? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     If  you  read,  we're  rolling. 

05  21  25  08    CC  Okay.     Mark  that. 

CDR-EVA    Making  a  right-hand  turn  for  a  pan. 

LMP-EVA    Left.     Let  me  see  where  we're  going.     I  guess  ... 
again.     You  know,  a  little  more  and  that  hole 
would  have  been  in  the  way.     We  left  some  of  our 
litter. 

CDR-EVA    Not  a  complete  pan  but  it  will  show  the  location. 
LMP-EVA    Okay.     LMP  frame  count  80 . 
CC  Copy  that;  80. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Geno ,  you're  heading  for  a  spot  that's  about 
080/5.5,  approximately. 


Tape  95^1 


LMP-EVA  Okay? 

CC  Yes,  you  guys  following  ...   form  or  not? 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  have  an  update? 
CDR-EVA    No . 

CC  Okay;  and  -  Roger.    The  Hole-in-the-Wall  should  be 

at  a"bout  080  or  maybe  5-T.     And  we're  not  going 
to  stop  and  get  a  Rover  sample  at  Hole-in-the- 
Wall. 

CDR-EVA    What  about  station  3? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that  sounds  reasonable  because  it's  Just 
nothing  but  lots  of  rolling  terrain. 

05  21  26  25    LMP-EVA    Okay.     Bob,  I  -  I  think  we  have  a  good  sample  of 

only  partially  contaminated  light  mantle  in  that 
last  Rover  sample  that  Gene  accidentally  dis- 
covered was  right  \mder  our  feet.     It's  almost 
certainly  the  light-colored  material  that's  the 
crater  -  we've  been  talking  about  in  the  walls  of 
the  crater.     And,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  that  in- 
stant rock  sample  I  took  was  light-colored  and 
probably  represents  the  same  stuff,  indurated 
slightly . 

CDR-EVA    Light-colored  mantle  has  that  bluish  tint  that 
you  saw  in  those  rocks, 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    I  still  don't  think  there's  anything.     We  ought 
to  -  we  ought  to  get  a  core  in  this  light  mantle 
sometime;  and  probably  station  3  is  going  to  be 
the  place.     I  hope  that's  still  in  the  agenda. 

CC  Roger.     It's  still  in  the  agenda. 

CDR-EVA    Say,  Bob,  can  you  update  tiie  mileage  on  station  \'l 

CC  Okay,  you  want  mileage  to  it  or  do  you  want  tlie 

range  and  bearing  at  it? 


Tape  9 5 A/ 16 


CDR-EVA    Well,  range  and  "bearing  at  it. 
CC  Okay.     Stand  hy . 

CDR-EVA    The  Hole-in-the-Wall  is  fairly  nebulous. 


CC 


Okay,  we're  going  to  say  about  O89  and  6.1  for 
station  3. 


CDR-EVA    Okay . 

CC  Do  you  want  to  hear  another  range  and  bearing 

right  now? 

CDR-EVA    Do  you  get  the  feeling  that  we're  the  only  ones 

out  here.  Jack?     Looking  around  -  G73,  10. 3,  6.6. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  have  a  feeling  that  whatever  darkens  the  - 

Ooh,  there's  a  beautiful  little  glass-lined  crater, 
pit  bottom  crater  -  whatever  darkens  the  light 
mantle  is  not  a  -  a  one-time-only  mantling  of 
darker  material.     It's  something  that  happens  over 
a  period  of  time,  continually,  because  craters  of 
all  sizes  and  apparent  degradation  are  dark  - 
darkened  and  there  are  lighter  craters  that  are 
light  to  varying  degrees,  there  seems  to  be  a 
continuing  -  continuum  of  albedo  change. 

05  21  29  08     CDR-EVA    You  know  that  little  crater  on  the  side  of  the 

North  Massif  that  we're  thinking  about  going  to 
doesn't  look  nearly  as  light-colored  or  haloed  as 
it  does  in  pictures ,  does  it? 

LI^P-EVA    You  mean  -  Yes  -  no. 


CDR-EVA    Now,  let's  see  where  we  are,  I  don't  want  to  run 
into  that  big  crater  at  the  foot  of  the   

LMP-EVA    I  think  you're  almost  to  the  rim. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  want  to  go  down  here  if  I  can.     %  tracks 
are  over  there  to  the  left,  I  haven't  crossed 
them  yet. 


Tape  95A/17 


05  21  29  h3    LMP-EVA  073,  6.3. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  LMP  frame  count  is  86. 

CC  Copy  86. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  that's  a  sight,  isn't  it? 

GDR-EVA  That's  spectacular. 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  know  why  something  that's  all  approximately 
the  same  hue  should  - 

CDR-EVA    The  lack  of  color  has  got  to  contribute  to  the 
inability  to  judge  distance. 

LMP-EVA    See  the  lobes  coming  out  -  looks  like  lobes  out 
from  the  Scarp.     The  Scarp  rather  being  a  line 
in  there  on  the,  on  the  plain,  appear  to  be  lobes. 
I  got  a  couple  of  shots  of  that.     Whereas  when  it 
gets  up  on  the  Massif,  it's  a  fairly  continuous 
curve;  although  it  does  appear  to  be  younger,  at 
least  -  at  least  there's  less  relief  on  it  for 
the  first  few  kilometers  of  that  bend  there. 


CDR-EVA  We're  going  to  have  to  go  down  like  the  way  we  came 
because  there's  that  big  crater  down  at  the  bottom, 
I'm  afraid. 

CC  Yes,  I  think  we  agree  with  that  suggestion,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  Scarp,  so  called  Scarp,  impresses  me  as 
less  of  a  scarp  than  a  series  of  -  of  lobes  which 
roiighly  have  a  north-south  trend.     And  we've  been 
driving  over  various  hummocks  within  those  lobe;; . 


CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  we  made  a  gross  mistake  in  not  trying  to 
let  them  get  TV,  my  heading  hasn't  changed  much 
at  all  here .     Then  we  would  have  a  spectacular 
view.     Look  at  it  out  in  that  valley.  Jack. 


Tape  95A/18 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Good  gosh.     I  still  don't  know  where  the  LM  is  - 
I  see  it,  I  think.     The  shadow  or  blob  -  that's 
the  only  sharp  shadow  out  there  right  in  the  - 
because  you  sure  can't  make  out  the  craters  from 
here,  can  you?     Okay,  hold  on.     Over  the  hill  and 
down  the  vale.     Man,  I  tell  you,  this  machine  is 
fantastic , 

LMP-EVA    Yes;  Roger.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Quite  a  machine. 

LMP-EVA    Likes  to  spin  when  you  turn  going  down  hill. 
CDR-EVA    Quite  a  machine. 

LMP-EVA    But  -  I  think  you've  got  something  right  ahead  of 
you.     Here  - 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    See  the  instant  rock. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it.     You  know,  the  crater  doesn't  look 

nearly  as  bad  from  here,  but  it  sure  is  deep  whe- 
you  get  up  there.     We'll  just  -  I'll  meander  aroun. 
It  over  next  to  this  next  little  lobe  then  I'll 
head  down  the  next  one  -  the  first  lobe  we  came 
up  -  and  then  along  it. 

05  21  33  08    LMP-EVA    Okay,  there's  Lara,  and  I  think  we  can  see 

station  -  Watch  it,  watch  it,  watch  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  through  it  slow. 

U-IP-EVA    Beautiful.     I  fibred  we'd  buckle  the  LCRU  with 
that  one. 

CDR-EVA     I  bet  they  can  watch  this  road.     My  heart  rate 

just  dictates  the  kind  of  terrain  we're  going  over. 

LMP-EVA    Okay  -  Houston,  we're  navigating  and  not  talk'nr 

-orry.     But  the  light  mantle  is  a  fair  -  is  a  uni- 
fonri  surface  and  I  think  you've  heard  Just  about 
everything  we've  had  to  say  so  far. 


Tape  95A/19 


CC  Roger.     Your  comm's  great  and  you  guys  a.re  doing 

good  work. 

LMP-EVA    The  fragment  population  is  not  -  the  fragment 

population  hasn't  changed,  nor  has  the  crater  pop- 
ulation, as  near  as  I  can  tell.     I  hope  the  LRV 
photos  will  give  you  more  detail  than  that .     Okay , 
Gene,  do  you  have  the  target  over  there,  that  set 
of  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  to  get  over  to  this  next  knoll  and  I'm 
going  to  be  off  the  Scarp.     We're  about  three- 
quarters  of  the  way  down. 

CDR-EVA    Isn't  that  sharp  shadow  out  there  the  LM?    See  it 
way  out  there?     Almost  under  the  Sun.     It's  got 
to  he.    It's  the  only  sharp  shadow  out  there. 
Right  under  the  Sun,  straight  down  there. 

LMP-EVA    Probably . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  to  ti-y  to  make  it  down  there. 
Hold  on. 

IMP-EVA    This  is  what? 

CDR-EVA    This  is  the  one  we  climbed  up. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  there's  Nemo  over  there  to  lay  right. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir,  this  is  the  one  we  climbed  up.  Would 
you  believe  that? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I  don't  know. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  would. 

LMP-EVA  The  problem  is  if  there  is  any  crater  on  the 
side  -  - 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  want  to  give  it  the  roll,  are  you  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I  think  you're  all  right. 

CDR-EVA  We're  all  right.     I  don't  know,  that's  goz   


9 5 A/ 20 


LMP-EVA    Keep  your  speed  dovn  because  if  you  have  to  turn 
it  doesn't  like  it  on  a  downhill  slope. 

CDR-EVA    And  that's  got  to  "be  a  pitch-angle  ...  and  I  don 
knov  vhat  that  means.     Okay.     Right  on  time  -  - 

LMP-EVA     . . .  scarp. 

21  35  ^5     CC  You  guys  cut  each  other  out  hut  I  take  it  that 

means  you're  at  the  edge  of  the  Scarp. 

CDR-EVA    We're  off,  we're  off,  we  came  down. 

CC  Roger.     You're  down  the  Scarp. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  will  you  look  at  the  hill  we  came  down  same 
way  we  went  up? 

LMP-EVA    I'd  rather  not. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  don't  know,  I 'm  impressed. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  now  where  we  got  to  go.     3^5  roughly.  And 
we  want  to  go  to  O87/6.I  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay,     you're  -  I  think  you're  headed  right  - 
right  for  where  we  want. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    It's  that  "bright  -  see  that  bright  crater?  You 
can  Just  start  to  see  station  3  over  there  now. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  navigation  says  I've  got  more  than  9  de- 
grees -  I  should  be  increasing  range.     Bob,  we  * ro 
at  0T9,  11.5,  and  5-7. 

CC  Okay,  beautiful,  guys.     Really  going  smooth. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  headed  northwest. 

CC  Roger.     In  fact,  we  understand  it's  been  going 

so  smooth  dovn  here  that  they  haven't  even  soille 
any  coffee  in  the  SFM  room  yet  this  mission. 


Tape  9 5 A/ 21 


CDR-EVA    Morrison  must  not  he  on  duty.     I'm  glad  we  don't 
have  any  sitting  on  the  LCRU. 

LMP-EVA    Right  over  there  Is  station  3,  I  think. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  actually,  I  guess  -  they  would  want  it  -  is 
there  -  I  can  just  start  to  see  two  craters  -  - 

LMP-EVA    You  know  what  the  problem  is? 

CDR-EVA    -  -  and  they're  closer  to  Leu-a. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  a  full  planar  view  of  the  high  gain  and  I 
can't  see  a  thing  out  there. 

CDR-EVA    That's  right. 

LMP-EVA    Full  planar  view.     All  I  can  do  is  see  underneath 
it. 

CDR-EVA    Well  I  -  going  to  take  it  broadside.     See,  I  can't 
see  a  lot  of  craters  now  that  I'm  out  in  front. 
Oh,  I  guess  I  can  see  them  both. 

LMP-EVA    Here's  a  nice  sharp  little  hole;  look  at  that. 

Bob,  the  texture  of  the  light  mantle  -  surface 
texture  -  is  really  no  different  on  the  Scarp,  on 
its  flank,  or  out  here  to  the  east  of  the  Scarp. 
Fragment  population,  crater  population,  everything 
looking  about  the  same.     If  there  is  such  a  thing 
as  a  light  mantle,  it  seems  to  be  uniform  across 
the  Scarp. 

05  21  37  59    CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Here  are  your  tracks  -  Hey!     We  crossed  somebody's 
tracks  -  we  sure  did  ...  we  made  a  loop. 

CC  Hope  they  look  like  yours . 

05  21  38  li+    CDR-EVA  That  was  at  08l/5.7. 

CC  Okay,  copy  O81/5.T.     Do  they  look  like  your  tracks' 

LMP-EVA  Well,  here's  another  set. 


Tape  95A/22 


CDR-EVA    Yes ,  this  is  where  we  went  to  the  hig  crater  and 
I  came  southeast  in  order  to  get  around  it ,  re- 
memher?    We  saw  that  hole? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  that  hig  turn  I  made,  ha  ha!     That  was  a 

q_uick  change  of  mind  when  we  came  over  that  ridge. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  still  headed  northwest.  Bob. 
LMP-EVA    Here  -  I  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  guess  one  thing  we  don't  have  a 

handle  on  yet  is  what  are  the  -  I  think  we  sampled 
them  -  once  in  a  Rover  sample,  but  what  are  the 
fragments  out  here  mixed  with  the  light  mantle? 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  I  got  one  at  our  last  -  our  last  gravimeter 
stop,  a  small  one,  and  I  guess  there's  one  other 
Rover  sample,  but  -  station  3,  we  probably  ought 
to  make  sure  we  get  a  representative  suite  of 
those  fragments , 

CC  Roger.     Agree  to  that. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  how  long  have  we  been  out? 

CC  Say  there  again.  Gene?     How  long  have  you  been 

out? 

CDR-EVA    How  long  have  we  been  out? 
CC  3  plus  k3. 

CDR-EVA    Thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    We're  at  083/5-7.     Well,  it  certainly  doesn't 

look  like  the  geology  of  Norway,  but  it  certainly 
is  interesting. 


CDR-EVA 


That  must  be  Lara  right  there,  huh? 


Tape  95A/23 


LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    On  the  left.     You  can  see  the  blocks  on  the  other 
side  of  her. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right.     I  told  them  about  those  earlier. 

That's  the  only  no  -  I  think.  Gene,  you  want  to 
bear  a  little  bit  -  Hold  on  -  a  little  bit  to  the 
left.     See  those  two  craters,  two  bright  craters, 
that  are  just  this  side  of  Lara? 

CDR-EVA    Now  -  well  -  I'm  not  - 

LMP-EVA    You're  pointed  right  -  almost  right  at  them,  now. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  can  barely  see  them  now  through  that  high 
gain. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    But  I  can  see  -  I  know  where  we're  going  now. 

05  21  ho  25    LMP-EVA    Those  are  the  two  I  think  they  wanted  us  to  be  at, 

and  I  think  that's  a  good  choice  if  we  can  get  up 
there. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  want  to  get  some  500s  the  way  that  scarp 

flows  up  on  top  -  well,  it  looks  like  it  flows  up 
on  top  of  the  North  Massif.  Now  if  may  look  like 
the  North  Massif  may  drape  material  down  upon  it. 
Look  at  that. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Not  really.  The  texture  is  so  different.  It  just 
doesn't  look  like  as  old  a  surface,  but  definitely 
different. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA 


Wish  they  had  never  said  ajiything  about  plcturer, , 
because  I've  tended  to  not  take  enough  -  to  do 
better. 


Tape  95A/2J| 


CC  Okay,  but.  Jack,  you're  doing  quite  veil  in  the 

picture  department  -  you're  not  getting  too  far 
behind  or  ahead.     Copy  that.  Gene? 

LMP-EVA    No,  but  I  mean  I'm  not  getting  the  coverage  I've  - 
I'm  not  sure  I'm  getting  the  coverage  I  should. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  look  at  the  frame  count  when  you  get 

to  station  3- 

LMP-EVA    Oops,  oops!     Oh,  there's  another  big  crater  witli 
a  pit  in  it , 

CDR-EVA    What  was  it,  17-1/2  or  l8  clicks  we  hit  coming 
down  the  Scarp ,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  (laughter). 

05  21  1+1  kS    CDR-EVA    I'm  in  MIW  cooling  now. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  look  at  that  -  wait  until  you  get  over  and 
look,  at  that  South  Massif.     Is  that  - 

LI4P-EVA    Yes.     I  don't  know  where  we're  going  to  get  a 

good  -  Well,  let's  see.     You  know,  that  big  block 
up  there  might  be  worth  going  to. 

CDR-EVA    087  at  5.9.     I  think  that's  the  best  station  we've 
got  right  here. 

LMP-EVA  Well   

CDR-EVA    Let's  see  what's  over  on  your  right.     Let's  see 
if  we  can  get  at  that  scarp  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    I've  sort  of  lost  track   

CDR-EVA    We're  about  there. 


CC 


I  think  we  expected  you  guys  to  be  a  little  bit 
farther  north.     We  were  getting  a  heading  of  080 
for  the  bearing  which  really  kind  of  says  you 
said  you  were  going  a  bit  farther  north  than  this, 


CDR-EVA    Well,  there's  that  first  crater,  there.  Jack. 


Tape  95P^/23 


05  21  U2  i+1    LMP-EVA  080? 

CC  Roger.     080  is  where  we  think  - 

LMP-EVA  All  of  a  sudden  I've  lost  track. 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA  There's  nothing  wrong  with  that  except  that  - 

LMP-EVA  I  think  we  ought  to  go  hack  to  that  hig  block, 

CDR-EVA  Heading  O80  is  -  heading  north  is  not  going  to   

CC  Roger,     I  Just  realized  that,  Geno. 

05  21  1*2  58    CDR-EVA  I'm  08T  now. 

CC  Yes,  I  realize  that.  Gene;  m  mistake.  Somebody's 

got  a  wrong  thing  down  here. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  I  think   

CC  That's  the  Hole-in-t he-Wall .     My  mistake. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we  need  to  go  -  go  back  there  a  little 
bit. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  we're  at  O8T/6.O.  I  think  that's  probably 
about  right.    Why  don't  we  stop  here? 

CC  Okay,  1T>  that's  a  great  stop.    That  was  my  mis- 

take, I  was  reading  the  Hole-in-the-Wall  coordinate. 

05  21  U3  25    CDR-EVA    All  right.  Bob,  we've  got  the  boulders  over  here 

that  are  in  the  light  mantle. 

CC  Okay,  now,  let  me  brief  you  on  station  3-  It's 
going  to  be  a  very  brief  station  to  make  up  for 
the  

CDR-EVA    We  can  see  a  little  bit  down  into  Lara,  too. 


Tape  95A/26 


CC  Okay,  it  will  lie  a  "brief  station  to  make  up  for 

the  time  we  added  on  at  the  -  first  of  all,  renien- 
ber  we  want  to  get  the  nav  update.     Let  me  go  into 
a  heading,  of  270  more  or  less  and  give  us  the  nav 
read-out  so  we  can  start  that  here. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  get  where  you  want  from  here? 

LMP-EVA    No,  this  is  no  good.     I  wanted  to  get  a  high  spot. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  let's  -  let  me  park  down  here,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Why?     You  should  have  stayed  up  there.     This  is 
good  right  here. 

CDR-EVA     It's  not  going  to  be  very  level  for  the  gravineter. 

CC  Gene,  remember,  we  want  to  -  head  for  the  west  so 

we  can  get  the  nav  update. 

CDR-EVA    We'll  park  right  out  here  and  we  can  work  those 
blocks  right  up  behind  us.     Okay,  you  want  a  nav 
update  here? 

CC  Roger.     That's  affirm.     You  need  to  get  your 

antenna. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  get  off,  Jack?     Oh,  I  was  looking 
at  the  wrong  -  oh,  no,  I'm  not.     Okay.     I'll  get 
a  nav  update.     Get  off  and  look  around.  I'll 
give  them  a  nav  update.  Jack,  and  we'll  press  on. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  sir,  you're  right,  Bob.     Hey,  get  your  - 

LMP-EVA  I  will. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  Fnat  do  you  need?    Take  your  scoop  or  whatever  you 
need. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  you're  going  to  move? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     I  want  to  give  them  a  nav  update  real  quick. 


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Oh,  I'm  sorry,  I  -  - 

Okay.    And,  Jack,  ...  for  you.    We're  going  to 
want  you  to  do  some  doctiment  sampling  on  your  own. 
I'll  get  with  you  guys  on  the  rest  of  the  station 
plan  shortly.    Go  ahead.  Gene,  we're  ready. 

Okay,  I  ought  to  get  the  gnoraon,  I  guess.  Okay, 
let  me  find  a  level  spot;  I'll  come  hack  towards 
you. 

I'll  get  it.  There  is  none. 
Well,  okay,  if  you  got  any  - 
No,  go  ahead,  make  your  park. 

Yes,  I'm  looking  for  a  level  spot,  but  my  gosh, 
there  sure  aren't  very  many. 

That ' s  probably  pretty  good . 

It  will  be  in  a  minute. 

It  doesn't  have  to  be  all  that  level.  Jack  -  Gene. 
Okay,  087  and  12.6,  6.0. 
I  got  your  gnomon. 

Sun  shadow  is  zero.    Pitch  -  if  I  can  get  it  over 
to  read  it.     Pitch  is  -  pitch  is  zero.     Roll  is 
zero.     About  1  left.  Bob? 

Okay ,  copy .    And  how  about  that  -  - 

About  1  left. 

And  how  about  heading? 

Heading  is  282. 

Okay,  go  ahead  and  park.  We'll  givi;  you  an  update 
when  you  get  done. 


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CDR-EVA    What  else  do  you  need? 

CC  That's  all  we  need.     Go  ahead  and  park  on  your  OU5. 

We'll  give  you  an  update  when  you  are  done. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  is  one  coming  right  there? 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  a  pretty  good  location  to  sample  the 
rim  materials  of  this  crater. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  at  the  south,  let's  say  the  east-southeast 
rim  of  a  -  oh,  30-meter  crater  in  the  light  mantle, 
of  course;  up  on  the  Scarp  and  raayhe  300  -  200  me- 
ters from  the  rim  of  Lara  in  a  northeast  direction. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    It's  Dody  shows  up  as  a  bright  crater  -  a  bright 
crater  on  your  map.     There's  only  about  a  half  a 
centimeter  of  gray  cover  over  very  white  material 
that  forms  the  rim. 

CC  Okay.     And,  Gene,  give  me  a  call  when  you  get 

parked  and  I'll  give  you  an  update  on  what  we  want 
to  do. 

05  21  k8  38    CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  am  parked. 

CC  Okay,  good.     We'll  take  the  Rover  read-out  first. 

05  21  1+8  1+5     CDR-EVA    Okay.     08? ,  12.7,  6.0;  105  and  100.     On  the  bat- 
tery temps  100,  120.     The  rear  motors  are  off 
scale  low  and  the  forward  motors  are  0  and  2h0. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that.     Understand  that  PUo  now  in- 

stead of  a  3I+O.     And  what  was  your  heading,  01,5? 

CDR-EVA    Heading  is  Oi+3. 

CC  OKay.     We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    If  I  ever  gave  you  a  motor  temperature  of  3I+0  , 
that  figure  was  erroneous . 


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CC  Okay;  Roger.    And  what  we'd  like  you  to  do.  Gene, 

is  we'd  like  you  to  get  the  CSVC  samples  yourself, 
that  will  essentially  be  your  sole  task  at  this 
station.  Jack  can  do  the  solo  sampling  and  we'd 
like  to  get  one  pan  eind  the  gravimeter,  and  then 
we'll  leave  this  station.    We're  going  to  alisorb 
some  of  the  time  we  spent  with  the  extra  gravimeter 
reading  and  some  of  the  time  we  absorbed  at  sta- 
tion 2  in  the  longer  stay  time  in  sampling  at 
station  3.     That's  our  plan.     So  it  will  be  CDR 
for  the  CSVC  for  the  long  cans ,  excuse  me ,  and 
LMP  for  solo  sampling  and  then  a  pan  by  Jack,  I 
presume,  and  then  the  gravimeter  and  then  leave. 
And,  Jack,  you  might  check  your  film.     We  aren't 
quite  sure  where  you  are  right  now,  before  you 
get  too  far  from  the  Rover. 

05  21  50  IT    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  got  any  -  Bob,  you  got  any  preference 
up  in  this  area  where  you  want  that  long  can? 

CC  Negative.    That's  something  that  was  sort  of  near 

the  scarp,  but  you're  parked  so  near  the  scarp  and 
that  something,  remember  we  do  it  in  solo,  we 
only  did  it  with  the  Rover,  so  you'd  have  to  stay 
right  there  beside  the  Rover  and  do  it .     No  ex- 
pectations of  doing  it  otherwise. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That's  what  I  figured. 

LMP-EVA    Gene . 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  think  you're  in  good  shape.     Yes,  I  don't 
have  any  other  choice.    Matter  of  fact,  if  there 
is  a  scarp,  and  if  it  is  a  fault,  I'm  right  - 
right  on  it  because  the  projection  of  it  would  be 
uphill  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  be  right  on  the  side  of  it.     I'm  parked 
on  the  side  of  it  if  it  exists. 

CC  Okay,  and.  Jack,  what's  your  frame  count? 


05  21  51  35    LMP-EVA    Well,  1-122. 


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CC  Okay ,  copy  that   ...     Go  ahead ,  Gene . 

LMP-EVA    ^-hat  do  you  need,  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  yes.     Boh,  I  dug  a  trench  in  the  side  of  f---. 

crater.     I've  got  dovn-Sun  pictures  of  it.  The-e 
IS  quite  a  marbling  of  light  and  dark  soil  or  fine 
gram  material.     It  looks  as  if  there's  a  uniform 
about  3-centimeter  layer  of  light  material  over 
that  marbled  light  and  dark.     On  the  very  top 
surface,  there's  a  half  centimeter  of  light  gray 
and  when  1  say  dark,  I  mean  a  medium  gray. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.     Sounds  like  a  ^eat  sample  site. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  to  start  sampling  the  soils,  and 
then  I  11  get  you  the  fragments. 

CC  Okay,  I  presume  that  we'll  at  least  have  the  sin- 

gle upper  core  which  we  can  use  to  sample  of 
that  stuff  in  the  soil,  and  we  - 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  there's  no  guarantee  that  this  is  a  crater 
rim. 

CC  Okay.     And,  Gene,  are  you  still  near  the  Rover? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  am. 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  to  get  the  SEP  blankets  opened 

Gene,  and  dusted  if  they're  dirty,  so  they  can' 
cool  some  more. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy. 

CC  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  now  I  can't  give  you  the  gravimeter  reading 
while  I'm  working  on  the  Rover,  so  I'll  have  to 
time  It  when  I  get  away  from  it. 

Roger  on  that.  I  think  you'll  be  pounding 
on  the  haimner  for  a  long  while  while  you  can  take 
the  Rover  -  gravimeter  reading. 


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Yes.    Well,  we'll  see.    Let  me  get  your  brush 
back . 

Okay,  bag  520  has  a  skin  sample  of  the  upper  light- 
gray  soil.  Don't  know  where  I'm  going  to  put  these 
things,  I've  got  to  come  down  and  get  a  bag. 

Have  you  punched  the  gravim  -  No. 

No,  I  can't  punch  it  until  I  get  out  of  here. 

These  switches  are  on  OFF,  STAMDBY ,  right? 

They  should  be . 

Okay,  that's  where  they  are  and  the  temperature 
is  100,  about  lOh  and  

No,  they  should  be  OFF.     Isn't  it  OFF? 

No,  it  was  STANDBY. 

No,  push  it  OFF. 

Okay,  it  doesn't  matter  whether  it's  STANDBY;  it 
won't  be  heating  at  that  temperature  anyway,  but 
put  it  OFF. 

Okay.  It  might  have  gotten  hit  when  I  changed 
the  blanket.  Now  I  have  to  go  to  INTERMEDIATE 
cooling  here. 

Zap  me  with  a  cold.     Imagine  those  PLSS  got 
chareged  okay  last  night.  ... 

Okay,  back  to  intermediate.    How's  Ron  doing? 

They're  both  looking  -  Stand  by,  I  thought  he 
said  both  fine.     Ron's  doing  great,  too.  He's 
sitting  here  busily  -  - 

No ,  no . 

Go  ahead. 

I  mean  Captain  America. 


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CC  Yes,  I'm  just  inquiring  of  Bob.     I  think  he's 

doing  great.     He's  just  passed  a  little  hit  north 
of  you  a  couple  of  minutes  ago  and  took  some 
pictures  of  you. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  do  my  work  around  the  IMP  seat  here. 

CDR-EVA    That's  lock.     That  must  be  unlock. 

05  21  56  36    LMP-EVA    Okay,  unlock.     Brake  is  off.     Four  is  coming  in. 

Okay,  Bob,  the  upper  -  the  upper  5  centimeter  - 
3  centimeters  mixed  with  that  upper  half  centi- 
meter, is  the  next  sample. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  guess  I'm  going  to  go  pound  away  and. 
Jack,  I'm  going  to  hit  the  gravimeter. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay  - 

05  21  57  30    CDR-EVA    MARK  it. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  521  is  the  sample  bag. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  the  first  core  has  gone  down  pretty  good. 
Bob. 

CC  Okay,  great. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  you're  not  going  -  you  won't  have  any  problem 
in  here  coring. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  I  tell  you,  I  wish  I  was  putting  a  drill 
hole  in  here.     Looks  pretty  nice. 

05  21  58  29    Lt^P-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     The  next  sample  is  mostly  the  medium 

gray  fraction  of  the  marbling.     It's  mixed,  though. 

05  21  59  19     LMP-EVA    That's  in  bag  522. 


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CC  Copy  that ,  Jack . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  think  I  got  it.     I  think  I  got  it,  Bob. 
CC  Okay. 

CC  And,  Jack,  when  you  get  done  with  this  trench  you 

might  hit  one  -  two  of  those  blocks  there ,  but 
then  we'd  -  since  we're  really  trying  to  cut  this 
station  down  to  a  minimum,  after  that  you'd 
probably  get  -  better  get  to  the  pan. 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  what  do  you  think,  can  I  read  a  gravimeter? 

CC  Yes,  if  it's  not  flashing  -  - 

CDR-EVA  The  light's  out. 

CC  Yes ,  it  should  be  just  done . 

05  22  00  15    CDR-EVA  6T0,  Oi+9 ,  TOl;  670,  Ol+9 ,  701. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  the  -  the  white  marble  in  the  -  the  white 
fraction  in  the  marble  zone  in  523. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Bob ,  I  forgot  to  give  you  the  core  numbers ,  but  I 
will . 

CC  Okay.     And  don't  forget  to  put  your  little  note 

in  the  long  can  there. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I'll  get  the  note  in  there.     I'll  get  it  in 
there.     Nobody  will  ever  know. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  our  52^+  is  what  1  think  is  a  bluo-gray 
rock  probably  breccia.     It's  got  a  little  dust 
cover . 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    From  just  off  the  rim  of  this  little  crater. 


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Okay,  copy  that.     It's  a  iDlue-gray  rock,  it's  not 
part  of  the  trench,  right?    You  finish  with  the 
trench? 

Yes.     As  you  see.  Bob,  it's  full.     See  that? 

Roger.    We  see  a  long  thing  in  your  hand  there, 
Gene . 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  didn't  think  that  was  supposed  to  happen. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'd  know,  Jack?     Shoot!     Thought  I  had  them 
on  the  Rover. 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  the  core  cap  covers.     I'll  get  them. 

LMP-EVA    No,  you  got  some  there  in  that  little  ca  -  in  that 
little  pocket  -  in  that  little  pocket.     Yes,  and 
there's  so  many  bags  in  here,  I  can't  get  at  them. 
No,  I  mean  the  pocket  on  the  Rover,  on  the  back. 
Remember? 

CDR-EVA    No,  they're  not.     I  took  them  out  and  put  them  on 
you. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    The  rest  of  them  are  in  this  bag.     I'll  come  and 
get  them. 

CDR-EVA     ...     This  other  -  but  I  don't  want  to  get  into 

your  seat.     We  got  those  bags  pi  -  packed  in  there 
like  gangbusters.     How  are  you  doing  there  by 
yourself? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  hard. 

CDR-EVA    Your  hook  came  off.     If  you  wait  a  minute,  I'll 
hook  it  on  this  bag.    See.  See. 

LIvIP-EVA    I  never  -  I  didn't  think  the  sample  bag  could  come 
off  the  camera.     But  they  can. 


CDR-EVA 

CC 


CDR-EVA    Yes.     Doggone  it. 


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LMP-EVA    What's  your  problem? 

CDR-EVA    Just  as  well  fix  this  bag  now.     Let  me  Qet  this 
bag  -  it's  going  to  come  off  at  the  bottom  if  we 
don't.     It's  going  to  come  off  again.     I  don't 
think  the  harness  is  tight  enough  now. 


LMP-EVA    Want  to  tighten  the  harness? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  to.  Jack. 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  your  harness  -  I  might  just  as  well 

do  it,  so  it's  right.     If  it's  worth  doing  at  all, 
it's  worth  doing  right.     Now,  let  me  try  getting 
that  bag  back  on.     No,  don't  bend  over,  I  can't 
get  down  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    You're  plenty  short  enough. 

LMP-EVA    Thanks  -  thanks  a  lot.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Just  think,  that  hook  -  or  something  changes  the 
geometry. 

CC  Okay,  don't  worry  about  it  too  much,  guys;  I'm 

sure  the  bag  will  stay  on  without  the  hook, 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it  will;  the  conclusion  I  just  came  to. 

LMP-EVA    You  through? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  go  ahead. 

05  22  05  38    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  what  I  know  is  a  blue-gray  breccia  i 

in  bag  525  • 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And,  Jack,  you  just  skipping  up  - 

scooping  up  little  rocks  along  the   . . .  here  -  in 
your  little  xenolith  mode?    Go  ahead.  Gene. 


LMP-EVA 


Yes,  ...  you  read  my  mind.  I  do  want  to  get  one 
of  these  light-colored  rocks,  thoiogh. 


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CC  Go  ahead.  Gene. 


CDR-EVA    Bob,  the  -  vhen  I  broke  the  cores  apart,  there's 
Just  a  lot  of  dried  clods  and  -  and  the  bottom 
core's  full,  the  top  core  about  -  oh,  I  got  to 
look  -  it's  dark  down  there,  but  about  an  inch  - 
inch  and  a  half  of  the  core  is  just  -  just  zero  t 
to  1/6  g'd  itself  right  out. 


CC  Okay,  we  copy  that.     I  guess  we  still  just  cover 

it,  and  see  what  we  got.    Might  just  again  trying 
compacting  it  after  that's  through;  after  you're 
done  with  the  lower  core. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I'll  do  that. 

CC  And,  Geno ,  how  about  -  - 

05  22  07  23    LMP-EVA    Bag  526. 

CC  Copy;  526. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  in  a  long  can  -  I'll  give  it  to  you;  wait  a 
minute.     That  may  have  been  a  piece  of  gabbro . 
But  again,  I  can't  be  completely  sure. 

CC  Copy  that.     Go  ahead.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    It's  either  that  or  anorthositic  gabbro  we  saw 
up  on  the  front.     Up  on  the  massif. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    And  my  bags  aren't  staying  on  my  camera  worth  a 
darn. 

05  22  07  56     CDR-EVA    Forty-six,  Bob,  is  going  Into  the  long  can. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  another  exercise  in  dexterity.     Okay,  LMI' 
has  gone  to  INTERMEDIATE. 

05  22  08  1+0     CDR-EVA    And,  by  the  way,  I'm  at  about  1+9  percent  and  3.85 

and  INTERMEDIATE  cooling  and  no  flags. 


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CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 


05  22  09  hi  CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 


Okay  5  copy  that ,  Geno .     Have  you  got  a  number  for 
the  upper  core  when  you  done  -  I  guess  you're 
probably  putting  the  other  one  in  the  long  can, 
aren't  you,  right  now? 

Yes,  yes,  yes;  that's  right. 

And  somewhere  here  along  the  line,  Jack,  I  guess 
maybe  when  you  get  those ,  you  ought  to  stop  and 
take  the  pan. 

Okay ,  Bob . 

Okay,  Bob,  the  -  the  long  can  is  sealed  and  I 
guess  nobody  knows  what's  in  it  but  me. 

No  one  ever  will,  probably. 

I  may  not  -  I  may  not  even  tell.     It  does  not  - 
none  of  the  material  in  this  core,  in  either  the 
top  section  or  the  bottom  section,  look  unlike 
that  -  that  stuff  Just  beneath  the  surface  that 
we  sampled  at  that  special  stop  back  there.  It's 
a  blmsh-gray,  and  it  tends  to  clod  and  break  up 
in  your  hands.    And  that's  core  31  -  the  num- 
ber is  31. 

Copy.     Thirty-one  on  the  ... 

Oh,  man.     Bob,  you've  got  better  than  -  oh,  you've 
got  two-thirds  of  a  core  after  I  packed  it  down 
a  little  bit . 

Okay,  thank  you,  Geno.     Copy  that. 

Okay,  that  little  set  of  h  samples  is  in  527, 
barely. 

Okay,  we  hope  it  was  worth  the  effort. 

Oh,  it's  all  worth  the  effort;  it  just  hurts. 

Okay.     We're  ready  now  for  your  pan  and  don't 
forget  your  scoop. 

I  won't  -  You  don't  mind  a  little  dirt  here  and 
there,  do  you,  ...? 


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CC  No . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  dadgunnnit .  Well  

CC  Hey,  Gene,  would  you  help  -  would  you  go  over  and 

help  Twlnkletoes  ,  please? 

LMP-EVA    I  tell  you  -  you  fix  that  camera  bracket  so  the 
backs  stay  on  and  I'll  be  a  lot  better  off. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    Want  some  help.  Jack?     I'll  be  there. 
LMP-EVA    No,  I  don't  need  any  help. 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 

CC  Jack,  you  might  worry  about  whether  your  camera 

lens  is  dirty  or  clean.  Jack.     I  don't  know  what 
you  could  do  about  it. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  very  worried  about  that. 

CC  I  don't  know  what  you  could  do  about  it,  but  you 

might  worry  about  it . 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  have  a  thing  to  do  -  it's  clean. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I'll  be  a  son  of  a  gun. 

LMP-EVA  What's  your  problem? 

CDR-EVA  (Chuckle)     "  can't  get  this  thing  locked  on. 

LMP-EVA  What  the  -  - 

CDR-EVA  The  rake! 

LIv!P-EVA  The  rake? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     That  should  lock.     I  turn  that  like  that  - 
there  it  comes . 

CC  Jack,  have  you  ever  started  your  pan,  so  we  get 

an  EMU  check  from  you? 


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05  22  13  00    LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  about  50  percent.    About  385. 
CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-E^/A    And  no  flags.     ...     Come  on.     Get  back  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  all  put  away.     That  goes  back  on 
your  back.     I'll  get  it. 

CC  Why  don't  you  go  over  and  -  over  towards  Jack, 

Gene,  and  then  the  two  of  you  can  pick  up  the 
scoop  and  the  bag  together  and  get  back  towards 
the  Rover  after  that? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'm  cleaning  up  this  seat  here.     I'll  do  that. 
I  think  I  can  hack  it. 

CC  And  then,  at  that  point,  we're  ready  for  you 

guys   ...  and,  at  that  point,  we're  ready  for  ycu 
guys  to  leave. 

CDR-EVA    Whew  -  Okay.     Jack,  I've  got  the  rammer  I've  got 
to  put  on  you.     I'll  just  leave  it  on  your  seat 
right  now? 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC  We're  watching  you.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    What's  that? 

CC  I  said  we're  watching  you,  but  don't  let  that 

inhibit  you. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  -  Bob,  I  don't  let  anything  inhibit  me  - 
and  I  don't  stay  mad  very  long. 

CC  That  was  very  good. 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    Well,  there's  an  easy  way  to  do 

everything.     The  question  is  can  you  hang  on  to 
it  once  you've  done  it? 


CDR-EVA 


Lat  me  get  those,  Jack.  Don't  get  down  there 
Let  me  get  those . 


Tape  95A/I4O 


LiMP-EVA    Where  are  you?    They  don't  stay  on  my  camera 
anymore . 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we'll  fix  it. 

LMP-EVA    There's  no  reason  why  they  shouldn't,  according 
to  this.    But  there  are  a  lot  -  - 

CDR-EVA     . . .     The  samples  from  that  -  Oh  -  I  need  it  - 

Wait  I  gotta  go  up  there.  Take  an  after  -  cross- 
Sun,  from  over  to  the  north  of  the  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA  You  didn't  get  an  after,  huh? 

CDR-EVA  No . 

LMP-EVA  How  come  you're  cleaning  up  the  Rover? 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA  If  you'll  mount  this  thing. 

LMP-EVA  Just  set  it  there.     Just  set  it  there.     I'll  take 
four  deep  breaths . 

CDR-EVA    Boh,  what  else  do  you  want  us  to  do  here? 

CC  Nothing.     Get  on  the  Rover  and  leave.     Get  the 

heck  out . 

05  22  16  03    CC  Don't  forget  the  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     We're  going  back  to  get  that  after  -  and 
we  won't  forget  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  you  might  be  able  to  decipher  this  sta- 
tion. Bob. 

CC  That's  the  general  idea.     And  be  advised  that  the 

switchboard  here  at  MSG  has  been  lit  up  by  calls 
from  the  Houston  Ballet  Foundation  requesting  your 
services  for  next  season. 


Tape  95A/U1 


CDR-EVA    I  should  hope  so.    Well,  we  can't  use  that  one. 

The  right-hand  gate  lock  is  -  how's  that  -  non- 
functional and  the  left  one  is  almost  nonfunctional. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    We  -  once  you  get  it  open,  you  can't  get  it  locked. 

I'll  dust  them  if  I  get  a  chance,  hut  it's  locked 
on  the  left  side. 

CC  Okay,  well,  we'll  keep  those  hags  under  your  feet, 

anyway. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  I'll  work  on  it. 

CC  I  think  the  samples  are  safer  under  there, 

anyway . 

CDR-EVA    We  don't  have  any  room.     ...  we  can  take  hag  T  out. 

CDR-EVA    That  one  is  locked  -  in  good  shape. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  press  on.    We  got  the  reading?    Let  me  put 
the  rammer  on  your  hack  and  see  if  we  can't  get 
this  on  your  camera. 

05  22  IT  k2    LMP-EVA    Are  we  going  to  run  the  SEP  this  time? 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know;  he  hasn't  said  anything.     I  expect 
he  will. 

CC  No,  we  will  not  turn  the  SEP  on.  Jack.    You  might 

cover  it  with  a  blanket  as  well  as  you  can.  And 
how  about  a  temperature  reading  before  you  leave, 
when  you  do  that? 

CDR-EVA    It's  100. 

CC  Copy  that,     100,  and  understand  both  switches  arc 

OFF  and  the  covers  are  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  the  covers  are  closed  now.     They  weren't. 

CC  Okay.    Roger.    That's  what  I  mean. 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.     Turn  -  turn  the  other  way,  left.     I  think 
it  might  just  put  you  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  don't  know  why  it  isn't  staying  on,  "but 
it  certainly  isn't. 

LMP-EVA  ...     Move  over  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Is  that  the  same  one?     I  may  have  bent  it. 

CDR-EVA  I  think  you  did  now.  Yes, 

LMP-EVA  I  Just  "bent  that,  didn't  I? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  that's  not  going  to  stay  on.     Yes,  you  bent 
it  (laughter)  very  well. 

LMP-EVA  . . .  how  I  did  that? 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  know  ...     You'll  lose  these  bags. 

Uyp-EVA  Okay ,  well ,  we ' 11  -  - 

CDR-EVA  I  got  bags . 

LMP-EVA  We'll  revise  our  procedures. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  bags . 

LMP-EVA  I  guess  I  bent  my  camera  mounting  brae  -  point, 
the  camera  point, 

CDR-EVA  Turn  around, 

LMP-EVA  We  may  have  to  -  think  about  a  fix  there. 

CDR-EVA  We  might  be  able  to  fix  that  in  the  cockpit. 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CC  Okay   

LMP-EVA  Okay,  are  we  all  through,  have  you  got  -  - 


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CC    worry  about  that  right,  when  you  get  back  in. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  where  are  we  here? 
CDR-EVA    I'll  get  on. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Oh,  I  guess  I  need  to  get  another  film 
mag,  huh? 

CC  Okay,  how  about  frame  counts  on  both  you  guys  be- 

fore you  start? 

05  22  19  k3    LMP-EVA    152  on  the  LMP  - 

CC  We  suggest  magaline  -  magazine  Juliett,  please. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)     Okay,  we'll  get  magaline  J\ilieing. 
The  CDR's  on  II8. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that,  Geno. 

LMP-EVA    Fire  fire,  two  frames.     You  know,  I'd  enjoy  this 
if  it  weren't  so  much  fun. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  you  going  to  change  yoxir  mag. 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Shoot  a  500  while  you're  doing  that.  (Laughter) 

LMP-EVA  Listen  to  me  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  my  thumb. 

LMP-EVA  I  know. 

CC  IT,  we'd  really  like  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Any  time  you  want  to  do  somethiiig,  though. 

CC  -  -  we'd  like  to  press  on  as  quickly  as  possible. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it. 


Tape  95A/U1+ 


CDR-EVA    Got  it. 

CC  In  case  you  didn't  get. 

CDR-EVA    TaJie  a  portion  of  the  scarp  over  there  you  can 
see . 

IT,  do  you  copy?  Houston. 
CDR-EVA  What? 

CC  We'd  like  to  press  on  -  - 

CDR-EVA  What? 

CC    as  soon  as  possible,  please. 

05  22  20  U8    CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  are.  Bob,  but  -  but  he's  got  to  change 

his  mag. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  stand  here  and  look  around. 
CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'm  picking  up  with  mag  -  or  with  frame  56 
and  I'm  going  to  try  to  get  a  little  bit  of  where 
the  scarp  overlaps  the  North  Massif.     I  can't  see 
much  of  it.    All  I  could  get  was  three  frames  of 
that.     Now  I'm  picking  up  the  South  Massif. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  how  are  you  coming.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Oh,  I  ought  to  put  that  in  there  so  you've 
got  room  for  your  camera. 


CC 


You  got  a  final  frame  count  there,  Gene? 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'm  all  set. 

05  22  22  51    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     When  I  finished  with  South  Massir,  I 

was  on  94  and  I  took  -  now  I 'm  on  99  -  I  took 
five  more  pictures  back  over  to  the  northeast. 

CC  We  copy  that .     And  we  assume  you  guys  are  ready 

to  go  by  now. 


Tape  95A/U5 


CDR-EVA    And,  Bob,  they  were  all  with  the  lens  -  Yes,  sir  - 
they  were  all  with  the  lens  cap  off. 

CC  Splendid. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  what's  the  headings  say?  And 

we'll  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  fix  that  high  gain  so  you  can  see? 

CC  We'll  -  we'll  get  the  reading  we  need  for  the  nav 

update.  Do  you  think  you  can  give  us  the  heading 
right  now? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  heading  is  1+1  -  I  think.     I'm  at  a  little 
hit  of  an  angle.    Better  let  Gene  do  it  for  you. 

CC  Okay.    We're  waiting. 

LMP-EVA    I  got  some  -  Gee,  I've  got  some  parallax.  I 
think  it's  Ul,  though. 

CDR-EVA    What  you  looking  at? 

LMP-EVA    The  headings. 

CDR-EVA    h3  -  OkS  is  what  I  gave  them  earlier. 

05  22  2h  12    CC  Yes,  we  were  wondering  if  it  drifted  while  you 

were  there,  because  we're  going  to  give  you 
now  a  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  let  me   

CC  -  -  going  to  give  you  one  to  update  it  if  it  has 

drifted  at  all. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  it  did  drift,  Ohl  is  a  good  number. 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by. 

CC  Okay.     That's  fine.    No  torque  necessary,  Geno. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  strapped. 


Tape  95A/1+6 


CDR-EVA  You  liked  the  drift,  huh? 

CC  Great . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  I'll  -  Dadgmmnit . 

IMP-EVA  What's  wrong?     Oh,  the  hammer? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Every  time.     Okay,  let's  go. 

CDR-EVA  All  right,  sport.     I'm  going  to  head  - 

LMP-EVA    We  didn't  really  do  all  the  things  we  wanted  to 
do,  but  I  think  we  did  everything  we  could. 

CC  We  did  everything  we  wanted  to  . . .  time  line  . . . 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  let's  get  ready  to  roll. 

CDR-EVA  Flight  line  stereo. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob  -  Oh  - 

LMP-EVA  You  got  the  TGE  ...  on  and  the  low  gain  is  060. 

CDR-EVA  You  get  the  gnomon  in? 

LMP-EVA  Didn't  you  get  it? 

CDR-EVA  Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  You  took  the  after.     It's  not  sitting  out  there. 

LMP-EVA  No,  I  thought  I  handed  -  didn't  you  stick  it  in? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  stuck  it  in.     I  got  it.     Okay.     We  can  look 
back  (laughter). 

CDR-EVA    Bob . 

LMP-EVA    I  sure  thought  I  handed  it  to  you,  Geno. 
CDR-EVA    You  did,  and  I  put  it  in. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  that's  good.     Okay,  whoo-boy ,  rest  the  old 
hands  . 


Tape  95A/iiT 


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Okay,  we've  recommendations  for  MINIMUM  for  you. 
Gene  -  Jack. 

...  ejecta.     It's  double. 
I  think  I  am  in  MINIMUM. 
Jack,   ...  -  Jack. 
I  am  already. 

Yes,  I'll  go  to  MINIMUM.     Yes,  I  will. 

And  give  us  a  mark  rolling,  please. 

Yes,  Bob,  I  gave  you  one.  We've  been  rolling  for 
about  30  seconds. 

Copy  that . 

We're  at  08T  -  08T  and  5.9  on  that  range. 
Copy  that. 

And  the  drive  to  station  k  will  be  nominal  and 
we'll  get  a  Rover  sample  at  about  O^k/^.l  but  it 
will  be  the  track  as  indicated  on  the  map  and  the 
cuff  checklist . 

Okay.     Going  to  Shorty. 

Okay. 

On  our  way. 

You  got  your  checklist  there? 
Yes,  I  got  it  in  front  of  me. 
Okay. 

And,  we're  heading  -  heading  is  O69 ,  around  - 
Well,  up  -  I  got  it  - 


LMP-EVA 


Yes,  that's  pretty  close. 


Tape  95A/1*8 


CDR-EVA  I  know  we're  next  to  that  band  but  I  know  where 
we're  going.  Ify  next  Is  09^+75. 1  is  what  I  want 
for  that  sample. 

LMP-EVA    Yeah.     Zero  what? 

CDR-EVA    I  think  he  said  09i+/5.1. 

LMP-EVA    He  meant  -  052  is  what's  nominal.    What's  the 
sample  again.  Bob? 

05  22  27  39    CC  5.I;  09^^/5.1. 

05  22  27  hQ    LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay,  that's  the  heading. 

CDR-EVA    All  right.     You  got  I+51. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Just  drive  by  this  big  rock.    Want  to  look  at  it. 
Can't  see  it.     I  can't  see  when  that  off  LCRU 
shines  into  my  eyes . 

LMP-EVA    Looks  like  one  of  the  gray  breccias. 

CDR-EVA    Big  3-meter  -  3-  to  U-meter  block  out  here  all 

by  itself  on  the  light  mantle  -  I  got  some  pictures 
It  was  at  088/5.6. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    And  it  looked  like  a  gray  breccia,  I'm  not  sure 
though,  all  I  could  see  was  the  surface  texture, 
and  it  had  the  modular  or  elongate  modular  texture 
that  those  breccias  had  up  on  the  South  Massif. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Where  are  you.  Shorty?     And  the  battery  tempera- 
tures are  100  and  130. 

05  22  29  06    CC  Copy  that. 


Tape  95A/i+9 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  as  far  as  any  of  the  things  we  talked 
ahout  trying  to  see  at  the  surface,  dynamics  or  a 
variation  of  the  light  mantle,  I  think  you've  heard 
it  all,  there  isn't  much  to  say  ahout  the  dynamics 
right  now.     I  have  a  feeling  that  the  surfaces 
are  old  enough  that  all  those  kind  of  detailed 
relationships  have  been  obscured.     ...  is  just 
about  the  same  all  over  here,  it  varies,  but  there 
are  no  systeraatics  that  I've  seen. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.     Do  we  ever  see  a  Rover  flag  come 

up  when  you've  got  high  temperatures  there  on  the 
battery  -  have  you  seen  the  flag  up  yet? 

CDR-EVA    No,  you  didn't.     No,  you  did  not,  you  did  not. 

CC  Okay,  that  may  be  telling  us  something,  we  hope. 

Press  on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     LMP  is  in  MINIMUM. 

CC  Copy  that,  thank  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Ought  to  cut  left  up  here  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  think  so.  Oh. 

LMP-EVA  Don't  -  Keep  her  going. 

CDR-EVA  (Laughter) 

LMP-EVA  Good  gosh!    Was  that  a  -  ...  aspect  ratio  of 
that  little  thing. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  what  they  call  a  pit  crater.     Can  you 
swing  a  little  bit  and  let  me  get  that  fragment 
crater  -  see  that  one  on  your  left  there? 

CDR-EVA    Quite  a  scene  up  here.     Got  your  pictures? 
Pictures? 


05  22  31  ok  LMP-EVA 


Yes,  I  got  them. 


Tape  95A/50 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     We're  at  090/5-3  for  a  quick  Rover 
sample  of  a  very,  very  fragmental  crater.  The 
ejecta  is  about  50-percent  small  angulai-  fragments  , 
much  different  than  we  have  seen  before  in  terais 
of  the  type  of  patterns. 

CC  Okay,  copy. 

05  22  31  35    CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  that's  in  bag  kl  Yankee. 


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Tape  95B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROiraD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


05  22  32  09    CC  Ron,  we  need  REACQ  and  NAEROW  and  the  dials  at 

25  and  195  as  is  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Hi±L?     Okay.     Have  you  got  it? 

CC  Thank  you,  sir.    We  would  have  lost  you  here 

shortly  in  AUTO. 

CMP  Oh.  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  the  EMP  is  running,  and  you  can  go 

back  to  BLOCK. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  It's  working. 

CC  Ron,  Jaime  wanted  me  to  mention  the  fact  that 

she  got  a  couple  of  A's  on  some  tests  today,  and 
she's  real  tickled  and  knew  you'd  be  happy  to 
hear  that. 

CMP  Hey,  you  bet,  by  golly!     That's  great! 

CC  Bon,  we  are  probably  going  to  lose  you  a  little 

early  on  this  half,  and  we  may  pick  you  up  a 
little  late  at  the  start  of  the  next  half,  mless 
you  were  to  try  and  acquire  us  manually,  or  some- 
thing like  that.     If  you  go  via  the  Flight  Plan, 
which  is  really  what  we  want,  we  will  be  coming 
in  a  little  bit  later  than  is  shown.     If  you 
have  to  talk  to  us  or  anything  like  that,  you  can 
acquire  manually,  and  we'll  be  right  there. 

05  22  38  21    CMP  Manually,  yes.     Okay.     I  was  Just  looking  at  the 

Earth  out  of  window  3  here.     Boy,  that's  beauti- 
ful!    I  have  an  earths et  pretty  quick. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Took  some  pictuires  of  it  the  other  day. 


Tape  95B/2 


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Yes,  we  were  going  to  steal  Jack's  thunder  and 
take  a  -  take  our  own  weather  report  when  we  had 
the  TV  looking  at  the  Earth  here  a  little  bit  ago. 

(Laughter) 

John  told  me  tc  tell  you  to  be  sure  and  -  that 
he's  so  glad  you're  there  because  he  knows  you 
worked  so  hard  all  these  years  to  be  there.  He's 
really  tickled.     Jan  said  to  send  her  love. 

Hey,  tell  them  I  appreciate  it  very  much. 

Roger.     They're  listening,  and  they're  hanging 
on  every  word. 


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America,  Houston. 

Okay,  Houston;  America.     I'm  with  you  now. 

Roger,  Ron.     Good  show.     We  need  the  -  we  need 
ACCEPT,  so  we  can  give  you  state  vector. 

Okay.     Sorry.     I  had  my  helmet  off. 

No  problem.     Did  you  unplug  your  EKG  blue  lead? 

No.     But  I  didn't  have  the  pov^er  on.     See?  I 
didn't  have  the  suit  power  on. 

Okay;  the  signal  looks  good  right  now.  You're 
in  good  shape  there. 

Yes.  Okay. 

Ron,  we  want  to  delete  "CEYO  STIR"  tonight  from 
the  presleep  checklist. 

Okay.     It's  deleted. 

And  I've  got  a  TEI-U9  pad  any  time  you  want  it. 
Okay. 


Tape  95B/3 


CC  Okay.     You  ready  to  copy? 

05  23  30  37    CMP  Stand  by. 

CMP  Okay.     Ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay,  Eon.     TEI-il9 ,  SPS/GM;  37568;  plus  O.56, 

plus  0.96;  l85:12:i+7.95.     NOUN  8I:     plus  2781.5, 
minus  1831.5,  minus  0532.3.     Roll,  l82 ;  pitch, 
lOU;  yaw,  330.     Rest  of  the  pad,  not  -  NA.  Okay. 
And  the  set  stars  are  the  same  as  always:  Sirius 
and  Rigel;  133,  200,  030.     Four  jet;  12  seconds. 
Okay.     And  -  let  me  see.     Two  comments.  Longi- 
tude at  T.    :    minus  I78.3I+.     That's  minus  178.3U. 
ig 

And  second  comment:     assume  no  plane  change  1. 
No  plane  change  "burn.     Over.     And  the  computer  is 
yours  5  Ron. 

05  23  32  kk    CMP  Okay.     Going  to  BLOCK.     TEI-1+9 ,  SPS/G&N;  37568; 

plus  0.56,  plus  0.96;  and  T.     I85:  12:1+7-95. 

DELTA  V^:     plus  2781.5,  minus  183I.5,  min\is 

0532.3;  80,  lOU,  and  330;  Rigel;  133,  200.  Jet; 
12  seconds.     Lunar  longitude  at  T.     is  minus 

178.  3I+.     Assume  no  plane  change. 

CC  Good  readhack,  Ron.    But  I  didn't  catch  your 

readhack  on  the  roll.     l82  is  the  roll,  l82. 
Did  you  read  that? 

CMP  Roger.     Roll,  l82. 

CC  Okay;  I  just  missed  the  readhack  on  that  one. 

Good  readback. 

CMP  Roger . 

05  23  33  56     CC  While  you're  doing  your  presleep  checklist,  you 

may  he  interested  that  -  at  Shorty,  the  surface 
crew  foimd  some  very,  very  orange  soil,  a  great 
deal  of  it.     Indicates  strong  oxidation  and 
possibly  indicates  water  and/or  volcanics  in  the 
area.     And  they're  really  -  Jack's  kind  of  like 
a  boy  at  Christmas  time.     I'll  tell  you,  a  little 
kid  at  Christmas  time  on  that  one. 


Tape  95B/i+ 


CMP  (Laughter)     I  bet  he  would  he.     Hey,  that's  a 

great  find,  hy  gosh! 

CC  Yes,  that's  first  time  we  find  -It's  orange. 

Boy,  you  could  see  it  in  the  television;  it's 
bright  orange  soil.     Ho  question  about  it. 

CMP  I'll  be  darned. 

CC  And,  as  luck  would  have  it,  they  found  it  all 

and  got  working,  and  then  they  got  -  had  to  pull 
out  of  Shorty  due  to  constraints  ,  walkback  con- 
straints in  the  area.     You  know  consumable 
versus  walkback. 

CMP  Yes. 

05  23  35  12     CC  Okay.     Ron,  everything  is  -  That's  everything 

we've  got  from  down  here.     Once  you  finish  your 
presleep  checklist,  then  you'll  be  clear  to  turn 
the  comm  off  and  -  or  turn  the  -  the  DOWN  VOICE, 
OFF,  and  have  a  good  night's  sleep.     And  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  -  -  And  if  you  got  anything  in  specific  you  want 

me  to  check  through  at  the  homefront ,  be  glad  to 
take  it  down  and  give  them  a  call  later  or  let 
you  know  tomorrow,  or  even  before  you  go  to  sleep 
if  you  want . 

CMP  Okay.     Appreciate  it,  but  can't  think  of  anything 

right  now.     Just  send  my  love. 

CC  Roger.     They'll  hear  that. 

05  23  36  01    CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.     Panel  9  is  RECEIVE,  and  we're 

in  DUPLEX,  and  SQUELCH  B  is  adjusted. 

CMP  I'll  check  my  tone  booster  here. 

CC  Ron,  we  -  that  got  garbled.     Say  again,  please? 

CMP  Hear  it? 

CC  Yes,  we  got  you.    We  got  you.     Just  working  great. 


Tape  95B/5 


CMP  ( Laughter )    Okay . 

05  23  U2  20    CMP  Well,  we'll  get  down  here  and  clean  the  old  suit 

circuit  return  valve . 

05  23  1+5  IT    CC  Hey,  Ron.     Did  you  have  some  noise  in  the  cockpit 

just  now? 

CMP  Yes.     I  was  down  there  in  -  cleaning  the  suit 

circmt  return  valve.     Could  you  hear  it?     I  was 
hanging  the  door. 

CC  Yes,  that's  exactly  -  We're  getting  a  noise  on 

the  loop.     It  sotmds  exactly  like  that  Hasselblad. 
Just  exactly  like  the  Hasselhlad,  and  that's  what 
we  got  all  during  that  eat  period.     But,  you  know, 
it  gives  a  click,  and  then  it  sounds  like  its 
transporting  film,  and  then  another  click.  Just 
exactly  like  the  Hasselhlad. 

CMP  Yes.     (Laughter)     No,  that's  -  that's  not  from 

up  here.     At  least  I  don't  hear  anything  like 
that . 

05  23  U6  00     CC  Roger.  Understand. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  96A/I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTION 

05  22  31  35    CC  Copy  that. 

05  22  31  UO    CDR-EVA  And  we ' re  on  our  way . 

CC  Great . 

CDR-EVA  Get  your  picture.  Jack? 

05  22  31  51    LMP-EVA  Yes.    LMP  frame  count  is  I5. 

CC  Copy  that. 

05  22  31  58    CDR-EVA    About  a  30-seeond  stop.     Okay,  09^+  -  I'm  O90 ,  5.3 

now.  Bob.    We're  heading  toward  your  stop. 

CC  Okay,  090 ,  5-3. 

LMP-EVA    See  Shorty  out  there  yet? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  - 

05  22  32  IT    LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  couldn't  tell  whether  that  was  just  -  it 

looked  like  that  that  might  have  been  a  crater 
that  had  got  to  bedrock.     There  may  have  been  a 
high  point,  or  let's  say  a  thin  point  in  the 
light  mantle,  and  it  got  down  to  bedrock.     But  I 
can't  -  It's  the  most  blocky-rimmed  crater  we've 
seen  for  a  long  time. 


CDR-EVA    Yes.     All  these  others  are  nowhere  near  that  - 
look  at  that . 


LMP-EVA    Ko.     It  was  about  15  meters  in  diameter. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  there  -  there  are  no  obvious  lineation?3 ,  at 
the  scale  we  can  observe,  on  the  light  mantle. 
I  think  the  pan  photography  and  the  metric  stuff 
may  be  what  you'll  have  to  use  for  any  directional 
trends  out  in  here.     Depending  on  what  we  decide 
the  origin  is . 


LMP-EVA 


Bob,  are  you  still  reading? 


Tape  96A/2 


CC  Roger.    We're  still  reading  you,  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Are  you  reading  us  through  the  m  or 
through  the  low  gain? 

CC  As  far  as  I  can  tell,  we're  reading  you  through 

the  lov  gain.  It's  "been  working  just  great  to- 
night, Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  great  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Tonights 

CDR-EVA    -  -  hecause  I  just  scraped  bottom  on  the  LCRU . 

if  it's  still  working,  I'm  glad  to  hear  that. 

05  22  33  CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  093  and  5-2.     We're  aUnost  there. 

LMP-EVA    Going  to  be  right  on  the  rim  of  that  crater. 

05  22  3k  08    CC  Okay.     And,  IJ,  the  word  from  the  backroom  is  - 

with  that  last  Rover  sample  you  got,  we'd  like 
to  go  straight  to  station  k  -  and  we  won't  get 
the  one  here  at  Ogk  and  5.3  -  5-1,  excuse  me. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  thought  the  purpose  was  to  sample  the 
light  mantle? 

CC  I  -  We  talked  to  them  about  that,  but  they  -  - 

LMP-EVA    We  didn't  sample  light  mantle  at  that  last  one. 

-  -  ^  agree.     I  talked  to  them  about  that.  But 
they  are  so  anxious  to  get  to  station  k,  1  guess 
they  don't  want  to  do  it. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  how  about  it,  Gene?     A  little  real  time  - 

CDR-EVA  I  think  we  got  to,  right  here. 

LMP-EVA  I  think  we  got  to. 

05  22  3h  ha    CDR-EVA  09^,  5.1.     You  got  your  picture? 

Lt^-EVA  Yes.     Okay,  that's  good  enough. 

CDR-EVA  You  happy? 


Tape  96A/3 


IMP-EVA  We'll  get  the  sample  -  anyway. 

05  22  3^  58    CDR-EVA  Okay.    09^,  5.1. 

CC  Copy  that. 

05  22  35  02    CDR-EVA  That's  good.  Jack.    Sample  is  in  h2  Yankee. 

CC  Copy  that. 

05  22  35  13    CDR-EVA    And  we  are  rolling.     And  give  me  a  bearing  and 

a  range  to  station  h. 

CC  Roger.     It  will  "be  hearing  of  100  and  range 

of  h.6. 

05  22  35  29    CDR-EVA    Okay,    We're  now  at  5-0  -  09U  and  50. 
05  22  35  33    LMP-EVA    LMP  frame  coiint  is  25. 

CDR-EVA    Was  that  100,  if, 6? 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP-EVA    Houston,  there  aren't  very  many  rocks  that  Just 
sit  on  the  surface.     All  of  them  seem  to  -  to  he 
slightly  buried  to  moderately  buried.    That  one 
looked  like  it  might  be  vesicular.    There's  a 
trench  -  linear  set  of  craters . 

CDR-EVA    Hold  it,  babe.    We  got  to  do  a  little  detouring . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  what  we're  looking  for  is  101  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     100,  k.6,  I'll  detour.     I'll  just  get  down 
this  slope.     I  don't  see  Shorty  though,  do  you? 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute,  is  that  it?     Is  that  it  out  there 
sstraight  ahead? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  let  me  get  down  this  slope. 

LMP-EVA    Something's  dark  out  there.     I  think  that's  it. 

CDR-EVA    The  -  the  dark  -  It  might  be  right  over  there  to 
the  left  a  little  bit? 


Tape  96A/i+ 


LMP-EVA    Your  left,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  right  over  there.     I  think  I  can  cut  it  right 
across  there.     That's  going  to  te  ahout  the  right 
place. 

LMP-EVA    Seems  a  little  far  from  here  -  hut  -  maybe  not. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  forgot  to  take  pictures  again.     Trying  to 

shade  my  eyes.  That  Scarp  certainly  is  spectacular 
gcmg  up  there  hy  Hanover,  isn't  it? 

CDR-EVA    It  just  rolls  over  the  side,  doesn't  it? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  22  38  00    LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  vhat  else  we  can  say  about  it,  though 

""^'^^  setting  a  good  view  of  the 
North  Massif,  and  the  cross-hatched  lineaments 
that  Gene  has  talked  about  are  over  there ,  also 
They  seem  to  be  a  set  that  -  that  plunge  about,' 
oh,  30  degrees  to  the  east  and  another  set  that 
plunge  about  the  same  to  the  west.     Plus  the 
boulder  tracks,  which  we  see  occasionally  over 
there.     And  there  are  areas  -  boulder  fields  up 
on  the  Massif  Itself,  such  as  we  saw  on  the  South 
Massif.    As  a  matter  of  fact,  it  looks  like  there's 
one  Just  above  where  we  may  -  where  station  6  mav 
be.    Straight  ahead  of  us  there,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  Um~hum. 

If  I  Change  that  heading,  that  LCRU  comes  right  in 


CDR-EVA 


LMP-^VA    I  ^on't  see  any  -  anything  like  layering  u.  .here. 

Although  the  upper  boundary  of  those  boulder  fields 
on  the  North  Massif,  and,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  on 
the  South  Massif    on 

CDR-EVA    Tha.'s  Shorty  straight  ahead  of  us,  I  think.  Yes 
yes,  that's  got  to  be  it. 


Tape  96A/5 


LMP-EVA    -  -  all  tend  to  have  a  linear  boundary. 

the  upper  portion  of  the  field;  the  lower  portion 
is  strung  out  downslope.    That  looks  like  it  might 
be  Shorty.  Yes. 

05  22  1+0  07    CDR-EVA    We're  at  9  -  099 ,  l+.T,  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  great.     Sounds  like  you're  just  about  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  think  we  got  it  in  front  of  us. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  looking  at  the  Sculptured  Hills,  I  think 

Gene's  comments  the  other  day  about  Bare  Mountain 
would  apply.    There's  a  small  relief  -  or  small 
amplitude  hummockiness  to  the  surface.  It's 
formed  by  cross-hatch  of  -  Let's  say  the  slope  I'm 
looking  at  is  sort  of  west-facing  slope.     So  on 
the  other  side  of  Wessex  Cleft,  it's  formed  by 
lineaments  going  -  plunging  about  10  degrees  to 
the  north  and  about  10  degrees  to  the  south.  And 
the  combination  gives  some  hummocks  that  are  quite 
distinct . 


CDR-EVA    Well,  you  know  it's  hard  to  see  a  blanket  here,  but 
that's  got  to  be  Shorty  right  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay  

CDR-EVA    It's  the  only  large  -  real  large  - 

LMP-EVA    We  want  to  park.     I  don't  think  we'll  see  a  blanket 
down  -  - 


CDR-EVA    I  don't  either. 

IMP-EVA    It  -  Well,  I  think  -  At  least  we're  going  to  see 
where  the  break  in  slope  is  for  the  rim.  My 
goodness . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  look  at  the  boulders  sitting  on  that  rim. 
LMP-EVA    It's  different. 
CDR-EVA    It  is  darker. 


96A/6 


LMP -EVA  Let's  go  over  there. 

22  1+1  k2    CDR-EVA  No  question.     We're  at  101,  k.'^. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay   

CC  Let  us  know  when  you  stop  and  where  you're   

CDR-EVA  Which  rim  do  you  want  to  park  on? 

LMP -EVA  Well,  I  think  we  ought  to  park  over  here  near  that 
big  "boulder. 

CDR-EVA  Yes  -  yes,  if  I  can  get  up  there.     I  think  I  can. 

LMP-EVA    You  can  swing  in,  you  know,  and  Just  park  parallel 
to  the  -  Of  course,  that  will  put  them  looking  back 
What  -  Can  you  park  any  direction? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  yes,  but  Oii5  gives  me  a  good  -  Let  me  -  I'll 
work  on  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  up  there  slowly.     I'll  put  them  on  this 
low  saddle  here.     Ol+5  vill  give  them  a  good  heading 

LMP-EVA    Shorty  is  a  crater,  the  size  of  which  you  know. 

It's  obviously  darker  rimmed,  although  the  fragment 
population  for  most  of  the  blanket  does  not  seem 
too  different  than  the  light  mantle.     But  inside  - 
Whoo ,  whoo ,  whoo ! 

CDR-EVA  Man,  are  you  going  to  get  a  picture  now. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  yes. 

CC  We  can  hardly  wait . 

CDR-EVA  That's  about  as  far  as  I  want  to  take  it i 

CC  Okay.    And  when  you  stop  and  get  off,  give  me  word 

and  I'll  read  you  up  some  revised  plans  for 
station  U. 


Tape  96A/7 


05  22  h2  57    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  we're  heading  OUl;  bearing  is  102; 

distance,  5.1;  and  on  the  range.  Amp-hours 

are  92,  90,  102.  And  128  on  the  batteries.  Off- 
scale  low  on  the  fronts,  and  off-scale  low  on  the 
rears . 

CC  Copy  that.    And  did  I  understand  i+.2  on  the  range. 

Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Yes  sir! 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  whether  you're  wrong,  or  we  are,  but   

CC  Sounds  like  an  interesting  crater.  In  any  case. 

CDR-EVA.    -  -  this  is  an  impressive  one. 
LMP-EVA    Wait  until  you  see  the  bottom  of  it . 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston.     Shorty  is  clearly  a  darker  rimmed 
crater.    The  inner  wall  is  q^uite  blocky  over  -  but 
except  for  the  western  portion  of  it,  which  is  less 
blocky  than  the  others.     The  floor  is  hummocky,  as 
we  thought  it  was  in  the  photograph.     The  central 
peak,  if  you  will,  or  central  mound,  is  very  blocky 
and  Jagged.    And  the  impression  I  have  of  the  other 
mounds  in  the  bottom  is  that  they  may  -  they  look 
like  Scarp  masses  that  may  have  come  off  the  side. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that  and  -  - 


LMP-EVA    That's  just  what  they  look  like.     I'm  not  sure 

that  -  They  have  a  -  they  have  a  bench  appearance. 

CC    Okay,  and  the  primary  priority  -  number  1  and 

2.  priorities  -  at  this  station  will  be  saariples  fro 
the  crater  rim  and  the  pan  from  the  crater  rim. 
Over . 


Tape  96A/8 


LMP-E\A    Okay,  ve've  got  a  large  boulder  of  very  intensely 
fractm-ed  rock,  right  on  the  rim,  right  near  the 
Rover.     It  looks  like  -  it  looks  like  a  finely 
vesicular  version  of  our  clinopyroxene  gabbro. 
It  s  obviously  crystalline  and  has  generally  that 
same  appearance.    There  is,  in  one  spot  here,  some 
inclusions  of  a  darker  gray  rock  also  intensely 
fractured.     The  fracture  systems,  I  think,  will 
show  up  veil  in  the  flight  line  stereo. 

05  22  k5  48    CDR-EVA    Bob,  do  you  have  TV? 

^°  have  TV,  and  you  might  brush  the  lens 

lor  us  before  you  run  away. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  get  it.     I've  got  to  get  my  battery 
covers  cleaned. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'm  going  to  take  a  pan  while  I'm  waiting 
for  you.  ^ 

CC  And  we're  going  to  want  the  SEP  opened  and  dusted 

as  well  here  so  we'll  be  -  switches  turned  off. 

CDR-EVA    Ooo-kaay.  Ooo-kaay. 
05  22  46  22    LMP-EVA    Oh,  hey  -  Wait  a  minute  -  - 
CDR-EVA  What? 

LMP-EVA    -  -  Where  are  the  reflections?     I've  been  fooled 
once.     There  is  orange  soil] 

CDR-EVA  Well,  don't  move  it  until  I  see  it. 

LMP-EVA  It's  all  over!  Orange! 

CDR-EVA  Don't  move  it  until  I  see  it. 

LMP-EVA  I  stirred  it  up  with  my  feet. 

CDR-EVA  Hey,  it  is !     I  can  see  it  from  here! 

LMP-EVA  It's  orange! 

CDR-EVA  Wai-.  a  minute,  let  me  put  my  visor  up.     It's  still 
orange ! 


Tape  96A/9 


LMP-EYA  Sure  it  is!  Crazy!  Orange!  I've  got  to  dig  a 
trench,  Hoiiston. 

CC  Copy  that,  I  guess  we'd  "better  work  fast. 

CDR-EVA  Hey,  he's  not  -  he's  not  going  out  of  his  wits. 
It  reaily  is . 

GC  Is  it  the  same  color  as  cheese? 

05  22  1+7  07     CDR-EVA    Temperature  on  the  SEP  is  about  100  and  -  temperature 

on  the  SEP's  ah out  102. 

LMP-EA      It's  almost  the  same  color  as  the  LMP  decal  on  my 
camera. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    That  is  orange.  Jack! 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  this  brush  is  getting  harder  to  get  on  and 

off  too.     But  I  sure  don't  want  to  lose  it.  Man, 
I  may  start  putting  that  under  ray  seat.  Well, 
zap  me  with  a  little  cold  water.     Okay,  the  SEP 
has  been  dusted.     I  think  I  gave  you  102  or  some- 
thing like  that . 

LMP -EVA  Fantastic,  sports  fans.  It's  trench  time.  You 
can  see  this  in  your  color  television,  I'll  bet 
you. 

CDR-EVA    How  can  there  be  orange  soil  on  the  Moon? 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  that  is  really  orange.     It's  been  oxidized. 
Go  around  and  get  the  lunar  sounder  [sic]  over 
here , 

LMP -EVA    It  looks  just  like  -  an  oxidized  desert  soil, 
that's  exactly  right. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  going  to  clean  their  glasses  so  they 

don't  -  so  they  know  we're  -  Can  you  wait  a  minute 
on  that  -  on  that  pan  you're  taking? 

LMP-EVA    I  already  took  it. 

CDR-EVA    So,  I  mean  the  television  camera.     I'll  put  you  hack 
where  I  had  you. 


Tape  9  6  A/10 


CDR-EVA    Nov.  I'll  let  you  put  your  -  right  where  you 
finished  your  pan. 

LMP-EVA    You  know  -  that  orange  -  that  orange  is  along  a 
line,  Geno,  along  the  rim  crest  - 

CDR-EVA    To  follow  -  what?    Circum  -  circumferential? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Man,  if  there  ever  was  a  (chuckle)  -  I'm  not 
going  to  say  it.     But  if  there  ever  was  something 
that  looked  like  a  fumarole  alteration,  this  is  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  give  you  a  gravimeter  -  - 

05  22  h9  k2    CDR-EVA    MARK  it. 

CC  Okay,  mark  the  gravimeter. 

CDR-EVA    And  she  is  flashing.     Oh,  never  mind.  Bob.  I'm 

going  to  go  to  STATOBY.     I've  got  to  get  my  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  I  think  we  hit  one  of  those  things  we've  got 
to  reconsider  on,  Houston. 


CC 


Yes.^  The  problem  is  we're  looking  at  PLSS  con- 
straints right  now,  as  luck  would  have  it,  of 
course.  ' 


02  55  50  15    CDR-EVA    MARK  it.  Gravimeter. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that, 

CDR-EVA    What's  wrong  with  the  TV?     Aren't  you  watching  it? 

I't  seems  to  have  died  slowly  there. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  stand  by.     Now,  I'm  going  to  give  you  another 
STANDBY  and  another  MARK. 

CC  Okay. 

05  22  50  56    CDR-EVA  STANDBY,  ON,  and  - 

05  22  51  00     CDR-EVA  MASK  it. 

CC  Copy  that . 


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LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I've  trenched  across  the  trend  of  the 
yellov  -  or  the  orange.    There  is  light  gray 
material  on  either  side. 

GDR-EVA  Oh,  man,  that's  incredihle. 

LMP-EVA  Say,  Gene,  we're  going  to  have  to  -  - 

CDR-EVA  That's  incredible. 

LMP-EVA  You  need  to  get  a  down-Sun  color  -  - 

CDR-EVA  That's  incredible. 

LMP-EVA    as  well  as  -  I'll  get  my  black-and-white. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA  We  also  got  to  get  that  rock  up  there  -  that's  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we'll  get  that.    Okay,  let's  start  sampling 
that  trench.     We've  got  to  get  -  that's  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  That's  phenomenal.     Look  at  where  the  contact 
between  the  gray  and  the  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Right,  and  it's  on  both  sides   

CDR-EVA    Before  you  disturb  it,  let  me  just  get  a  couple 
of  closeups  of  that. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  can  you  get  a  down-Sun?     I  think  your  color 
will  be  best  down-Sun. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Go  to  f/11.     Get  a  little  closer,  Geno ,  if  you 
think  you're  minimum. 

LMP-EVA    Come  up.     There  you  go. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  one  more.     Hey,  you  want  any  of  this 

bagged  in  a  -  in  the  can.  Bob?  Canned  in  the  bag  - 
or  whatever  it  is? 


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Stand  by.     They're  debating  that  right  now. 
Are  they? 

Roger.     Let's  get  the  short  can  for  some  of  that 
and  -  - 

Okay,  the  color  is  -  - 

Okay  let  us  get  the  -  let  us  sample  it  first,  then 
we ' 11  get  it . 

It's  quite  -  it's  -  it's  indurated. 
Aah  -  Go  hack  and  get  that  one. 
Go  get  a  new  chunk . 
I'll  go  get  a  new  chunk.  . 

Give  me  that,  and  get  a  new  one.     Give  me  that. 
Get  some  more. 

I'm  going  to  slow  down  here. 
Yes,  just  take  it  easy. 
I  can't  see  into  this. 

I  can't  see  when  your  shadow  is  there. 
Can  you  get  around  on  the  other  side? 
Yes. 

Because  I  can't  see  to  sample. 
Oh,     Well.     Yes,  that's  it. 

See  if  you  can  get  a  sample  right  across  that 
contact  too. 

I  will.     Okay,  hag  that  one. 

Bag  509  has  got  the  -  the  orange  material  from,  oh, 
about  2  to  3  inches  down. 


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Copy  that . 

Okay,  we're  suggesting  INTERMEDIATE  for  you. 
Jack . 

Okay,  the  light  gray,  which  is  on  either  side  -  we 
sample  the  -  the  -  Want  me  to  get  some  more? 

Yes ,  a  little  more . 

It's  -  all  of  this  is  getting  mixed  a  little  hit 
with  a  -  about  a  half-centimeter  thick  light-gray 
or  a  medium-gray  covering  over  the  whole  area. 

Bob,  the  gray  material  that  is  adjacent  to  the 
red  material  is  in  at  5  -  how  would  I  say  510. 

Copy  that. 

I  had  it,  and  I  can't  see  it  now. 
And  the  LMP  is  INTERMEDIATE. 
Copy  that . 
510,  Bob. 
Copy  that . 

And  that  -  and  that  orange  band  is  about  a  meter 
wide,  I  think. 

About  a  meter. 

You  can't  get  to  the  end  of  it  -  bottom  of  it 
though,  can  you? 

I  haven't  been  able  to  yet. 

Okay. 

Just  to  be  sure,  why  don't  we  sample  this  side  of 
it,  too? 

Then  I'm  going  to  go  get  the  can. 
Okay  -  one . 


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CDR-EVA    If  I  can  remember  vhere  we  put  it.     Bob,  where 
did  we  put  the  small  can? 

LMP-EVA    It's  in  the  -  it's  in  bag  7  under  my  seat. 

05  22  55  itO    CDR-EVA    Okay.     That's  good.     511  has  the  gray  from  the  other 

side  of  the  orange  band.  And  the  other  side  happens 
to  "be  the  crater  side. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right.     North  side. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Why  don't  you  look  around  a  minute,  and 
I'll  get  that  can. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  see  -  see  if  this  goes  on  down 
here  as  a  zone . 

CDR-EVA    It  looks  like  it's  -  ellipsoidal  area  if  foot- 
prints are  any  indication. 

CO  17,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  get  the  double  core  here 

instead  of  the  small  can,  -  Double  core,  please, 
instead  of  the  small  can. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LI^-EVA    Did  you  want  it  in  the  orange? 

CC  Roger.    That  affirm.    We  can  put  cores  in  gray 

soil  all  the  time. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  a  vertical  stratigraphy.     Do  you  want 

to  go  sideways  a  little  with  it?     Or  you  Just  want 
to  get  it  as  deep  as  you  can,  huh? 

05  22  56  52    CC  I  expect  we  want  to  get  -  let's  go  as  deep  as  we  can 

in  the  orange,  please,  there,  Jack.     And  the  one 
problem  at  this  station.  Jack,  is  not  that   

LMP-EVA    All  right. 

CC    we  can  . . .  decide  priorities  between  this 

station  or  any  other  station.  It's  the  fact  that 
we're  running  up  against  the  walkback  constraints 
here  in  just  a  very  few  minutes,  about  20  minutes. 


LMP-EVA 


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05  22  57  15    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  and  the  Tjottom  will  t.e  UU,  and  the  top 

will  he  35 . 

CC  Copy  that.    And  after  the  core,  we'd  like  for  you 

to  go  over  and  sample  some  of  that  -  some  of  the 
hlg  rocks  there  on  the  rim,  if  you  could  very 
quickly.    That'll  he  the  next  order  of  priority 
after  that. 

LMP-EVA    We  will. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  And  I'm  not  sure  whether  your  pan  will  look  down 

into  the  crater  or  not.  Jack.    But  if  it  didn't, 
we'd  like  to  get  another  one  from  there.  Hey, 
there's  the  crater, 

CDR-EVA    It  did.     Yes  -  yes  -  look  into  it  yourself  and  - 

and  then,  I'll  also  get  you  a  stereo  pan  before  we 
leave.     I  can  do  that. 

CC  Roger.     That's  some  crater. 

LMP-EVA    Got  your  hammer? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I've  practiced  too  long  on  taking  stereo  pans 
of  craters,  without  getting  one  here. 

LMP-EVA  I  got  mine  from  right  -  Just  right  down  there.  Gene 
So  - 

CDR-EVA  What  is  that  right  there? 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA  That  right  there. 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  see  -  Oh,  it's  a  piece  of  glass,  probably. 

CDR-EVA  Eoy,  it  sure  is. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  how  about  right  up  here? 


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LMP-EVA    You  know  that  -  we  were  aMost  -  we  Just  about  got 
(laugh)  to  the  upper  edge  of  this  little  ellipsoid 
zone.    I  think  we're  going  to  have  to  -  we've  messed 
up  most  of  it.     Let's  try  right  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  a  little  piece  of  glass  in  my  pocket. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  upper  portion  of  the  core  is  going  to  be 
a  little  bit  disturbed,  because  we've  walked 
around  the  area  so  much. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    There  was  a  little  piece  of  black  glass   

LMP-EVA    You  may  want  to  get  up  here  -  - 
CDR-EVA    solid  black  glass. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     That  -  did  you  get  a  -  hold  it,  and  I'll 
get  a  shot . 

05  22  59  26    CDR-EVA    Take  your  picture.    That's  about  as  far  as  I  could 

shove  it  in. 

CC  Okay.     And,  17,  while  you're  doing  that,  was  the 

gray  mantle  over  the  top  of  this,  or  was  this 
showing  all  the  way  through  to  the  surface? 

LMP-EVA    Ko,  it  was  over  the  top.     It  was  about  a  half  a 
centimeter  over  the  top. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    He's  getting  about  -  about  3  centimeters  a  whack. 
CC  Very  good. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  tell  you,  it's  a  lot  harder  going  in  than 

that  double  core  was  back  there.     It's  pretty  hard. 

LMP-EVA    It  acts  like  it's  inherently  cohesive.     It  breaks 
up  in  angular  fragments . 

CC  Copy  that. 


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An  essential  portion  of  the  zone  is  -  actually 
has  a  crimson  hue,  or  red  hue.     Outside  of  that 
it's  orange.    And  outside  of  that,  it's  gray. 

Pardon  me.  Jack. 

That's  all  right,  take  it  easy.     I'd  offer  to  hit 
it,  hut  I  don't  think  I  can,  my  hands  are  so  tired. 

I'm  going  up  to  max  here  for  just  a  minute  or  2. 

Copy  that . 

Okay,  let  me  hit  some  more.  Ready? 
Yes ,  go  ahead. 

Watch  it  -  I'm  afraid.     Jack,  it's  stable  enough. 
Why  don't  you  get  out  of  the  way?     I'm  afraid  if  I 
leave  go  of  this  thing,  you'll  get  it  in  the  head. 

Okay.     Have  at  it.     He's  still  getting  a  centimeter 
a  vhack,  poor  guy.     Let's  see.     I  didn't  get  a 
locator,  I  "better  get  a  locator.     Oh,  it's  in  the  - 
No,  it  isn't. 

The  only  thing  I  question  is  our  ability  to  get  it 
out.    Man,  that's  really  hit  bottom. 

Has  it? 

Yes. 

Okay,  do  I  have  core  tubes  on  me  now?     I  mean  caps? 

Yes. 

Caps  . 

Yes,  sir. 

And  the  rammer. 

Yes. 

Okay  -  only  - 


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CDR-EVA  That's  all  the  way  down.     But,  I  really   

LMP-EVA  That's  it.     Thanks,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  -  -  I  really  wonder  about  getting  it  out. 

LMP-KVA  Well,  we'll  give  it  the  old  college  try. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  ought  to  be  good  at  getting  cores  out  by 
now. 

LMP-EVA    It'll  come  out. 
CDR-EVA    Wow!  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    It  wouldn't  dare  not  come  out  -  wait  a  minute  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Is  there  enough  to  hold  on  to? 
LMP-EVA    Whoops  -  Which  side  you  got? 

CDR-EVA    I  was  Just  getting  this  out  for  you.     Let  me  -  I 
can  get  this  side  better. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 
CDR-EVA    You  ready? 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

05  23  01  57    CDR-EVA    Go.     Okay,  pull  slowly.     Slowly  so  I  can  cap  it 

all  right.     Let  me  get  a  cap. 

LMP-EVA  Okay, 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Hold  it  -  hold  it  -  let  me  get  a  cap. 

LMP-EVA  All  right,  get  the  cap. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Now,  wait  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  ready? 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  very  slow.    Even  the  core  tube  is  red! 

LMP-EVA  Look  at  that! 


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Even  the  core  is  red!     The  "bottom  one's  "black  - 
black  and  orange,  and  the  top  one's  gray  and 
orange ! 

The  fact  is,  the  "bottom  of  the  core  is  very  black 
compared  to  anything  we've  seen. 

Hey,  we  must  have  gone  through  the  red  soil  because 
it's  filled,  but  it's  filled  with  a  black  material. 

Let  me  see ,  Gene. 

Dark  gray,  almost  a  very  very  fine  grained  -  - 
That  might  be  a  magnet  -  magnetite. 
Fantastic . 


I  got  it. 
Fantastic. 
Go  ahead. 
Okay. 

But  it,  it,  it  - 

Let  me  -  God,  it  is  black  isn't  it? 

Yes.     I've  got  to  get  it  so  I  can  get  the  -  Boy, 
it  is  black  and  is  it  contrasted  to  that  orange 
stuff.     Very  black.     Well,  not  very  black.  It's 
a  good  dark  gray.     Very  dark  bluish  gray. 

Yes  -  contrast . 

Okay,  turn  that  thing  so  I  can  push  this  cap  a 
little  bit.    Just  turn  - 

Which  way? 

Either  way.     Just  turn  the  whole  tube. 
Oh,  okay. 


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CDR-EVA    It's  just  easier  to  turn  the  tube  than  my  hand   

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

05  23  03  1^    CDR-EVA    some  more.     I  don't  vant  this  cap  to  come  off. 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  INTERMEDIATE  cooling.  Okay. 
Now  you  don't  have  any  caps,  so  let's  take  this 
hack  to  the  Rover. 

LMP-EVA    Where's  the  hole? 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  take  a  picture  of  the  hole,  while 
you've  got  a  camera  there? 

LMP-EVA    Be  careful  with  that. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CC  The  caps  are  in  SCB-J.     They're  under  the  LMP  seat. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  the  hole's  most  -  the  hole's  mostly  in 
shadow. 

CG  And,  IT   

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  them  Bob. 

05  23  03  U2    CC  -  -  And,  IT,  so  you're  at  a  spot  -we'd  like  -  We 

have  to  be  leaving  here  -  not  like  -  we  have  to  be 
here  in  Ik  minutes  on  the  move  because  of  walkback 
constraints.    And  we'd  like  to  get  a  quick  sample 
of  the  basalt  up  there  on  the  rim,  and  Gene's 
stereo  pan,  and  then  press  on.     And  I  emphasize 
that  the  walkback  constraint  we're  up  against  in 
lU  minutes  -  13  now. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'll  get  a  sample  -  I'll  doc  -  I'll 

sample  it  by  hand.    But  it'll  be  documented.  And 
I'll  get  it  in  a  bag  in  a  minute  since  I  don't 
have  any. 

CDR-EVA    Come  back  this  way  when  you  do.     I  need  that 
rammer  again. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay.     Well,  I  better  come  there  first,  I  guess. 


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CDR-EVA    Well,  I  don't  need  it  right  this  second   

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Why  don't  you  leave  the  core  there  Gene,  and  you 

can  take  the  stereo  pan  while  Jack's  getting  that 
sample.    And  then  you  can  get  together  and  ram  the 
core  home . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Boh,  the  hottom  of  the  upper  core  is  also 
dark . 

CC  Copy  that.     Sounds  a  little  thin. 

CDR-EVA    And,  like  you  might  expect,  the  top  of  the  bottom 
core  is  dark,  too. 

CC  How  about  that . 

LMP-EVA     . . . 

LMP-EVA    It  -  If  I  ever  saw  a  classic  alteration  halo  around 
a  volcanic  crater,  this  is  it.     It's  ellipsoidal. 
It  appears  to  be  zoned.     There's  one  sample  we 
didn't  get.    We  didn't  get  the  more  yellowy  stuff, 
we  got  the  center  portion  - 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  those  caps,  Jack.     What's  -  That's 

what's  holding  it.     Holding  it  from  coming  out. 

LMP-EVA  Steal  a  bag. 

CDR-EVA  Okay 

05  23  06  10    LMP-EVA  Okay,  the  -  I  got  it.    Basalt  is  in  bag  512. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  getting  in  your  bag  here  Gene.     Got  it.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  our  lock  is  on  the  outside  here,  so  we  ought 
to  watch  this  gage. 


LMP-EVA 


Wiiat  happened? 


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05  23  07  00     CDR-EVA    Wot  going  to  worry  about  it.     This  lock  is  on  the 

outside  of  that  lever  lock  -  out  there.  You'll 
see  what  I  mean  when  you  look  at  the  lock.  Okay, 
I'm  going  to  go  get  my  pan. 

IMP -EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    The  cores  are  not  rammed  yet .     You  want  to  ram 
them  while  you're  here? 

LMP-EVA    What  did  you  do  with  my  extension  handle"^  Oh 
it's  - 

CDR-EVA    Here.     And  if  you  want  to  ram  them  -  - 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  there  you  are.     They're  not  rammed. 
MP-EVA    I'll  get  them. 

05  23  07  31    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  several  meters  around  to  the 

east  and  towards  the  south  to  get  this  pan. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  I  -  I'm  going  upslope.     I'm  circum  -  I'm  -  on 

the  circum  -  Oh,  you  know,  on  the  rim.     And  I'm  up. 
Oh,  that  ought  to  he  a  beautiful  shot,  if  I  could 
see  what  my  settings  are. 

05  23  07  57    LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  lower  core  is  chucky-Jam  full. 

I  don't  think  I've  budged  that  thing. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CO  Okay,  and.  Jack,  I  copied  -  aside  from  three  trench 

samples,  I  copied  one  single  rock  -  one  single  bag 
of  Dasalt  samples.     Is  that  correct? 

05  23  08  35    LMP-EVA    That's  right.  512. 
CC  Copy  that. 


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05  23  08  37    CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bo"b,  from  vhere  I  am,  about  100  meters 

around  the  west  side  of  the  rim  of  this  crater,  the 
mantle  on  the  inside  of  the  rim  turns  from  this  gray- 
material  we've  been  sampling  -  sampling  in  here  - 
to  a  very  dark  gray  material.     And  there's  a  lot 
of  ...  stuff  that  goes  down  -  radially  down  into 
the  -  into  the  pit  of  the  crater. 


CC  Okay.     Copy  that.  Outstanding. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  those  cores  didn't  feel  like  they  -  the 
follower  went  down  at  all. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Shoiadn't  it  have  gone  a  little  bit? 


CC  Not  necessarily,  if  it's  pretty  compact  stuff. 

You  were  having  a  hard  time  getting  it  in. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  thought  there  was  a  little  space  up  there, 
but  maybe  I  just  didn't  feel  it. 

CC  Hot  very  much  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  think  there's  much  danger  of  them  coming 
apart • 

CC  Okay.  Great. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  to  take  a  couple  of  more  pictures  at  that 

contact  slope  over  there.     I  know  -  you  can't  see 
it  from  where  you  are.  Jack,  but  I  guess  we  got 
to  leave.    Otherwise  it  woiold  be  nice  to  sample 
that  dark  stuff  up  on  top. 

CC  We  need  you  guys  rolling  in  T  minutes. 

CDR-EVA    We  can  get  a  spool  -  oh,  I  bet  I'm  out  of  filmi 
Well,  I  got  them  all  anyway,  Bob.     I'm  at  162. 
I'm  out  of  film.     That  stuff  -  and  you're  looking 
at  me  with  the  camera  -  that  stuff  is  up  toward 
that  boulder,  around  that  -  about  as  far  away  from 
that  boulder  on  the  other  side  as  we  are  on  this 
side.     And  we  want  a  hack  at  that  boulder,  too. 
Jack,  let's  see  if  we  can't  get  that  boulder, 
anyway. 


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CDR-EVA    But  I  don't  have  any  film. 

CC  Guys,  ve  don't  have  that  much  time. 


CDR-EVA    I  know.  Boh,  I  know.     There's  a  lot  of  little 
pieces  -  not  a  lot  -  hut  enough  that  I've  seen 
five  or  six  of  them.     Little  pieces  of  ohsidian- 
like  glass.     I  got  one  in  my  pocket.  Unbagged. 
Undocumented.     This  boulder  that  you  were  looking 
at  with  the  TV.     I'm  going  to  take  a  sample. 
Undo  cumented . 

05  23  11  00    LMP-EVA    I  got  it  I     I  got  it! 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  you  got  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Let's  go. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  sorry,  I  didn't  know  you  got  that.     Bag  hGl 
has  another  sample  of  the  -  of  basalt  that  I 
picked  up  right  near  where  we  dug  the  trench. 

CC  Copy  561  [sic]. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  give  you  something  with 

the  -  I'm  going  to  give  you  something  with  the  TV. 
I  want  to  show  you  where  that  dar  -  dark  material 
starts . 


LMP-EVA    Hold  still,  now. 

CDR-EVA    As  you  -  okay.     As  you  look  at  the  inner  rim  - 

as  it  goes  down  (cough)  to  the  right  -  you  see  a 
lot  of  boulders  -  a  lot  of  rocks  that  are  protruding 
out.    Where  that  rock  pattern  thins  out,  ^ust 
beyond  that  is  an  orange  -  a  visible  orange  radial 
pattern,  and  then  beyond  that  is  a  definite  change 
in  albedo  where  you  get  the  gray  material,  and  a 
definite  change  in  the  number  of  -  of  rocks  on 
the  slope. 


CC 


Gene ,  Roger . 


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05  23  12  09    CDR-EVA    And  that  particular   

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    material  can   

CC  And  if  -  - 

CDR-EVA    -  -  and  that  particular  material  -  that  par  -  Let 
me  finish.  Bob!     That  particular  rim  material 
there  continues  around  to  the  due  north,  and  then 
there's  a  drastic  change  again  where  you  see  the  - 
the  inner  rim  completely  terraced  with  this  boulder 
fill. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.  Gene  -  - 

CDR-EVA    And  I  can't  bet  on  it,  but  I  can  see  it  -  - 
CC  -  -  and  you  can  talk  about  it  when  you  get  home. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     As  long  as  you're  happy,  I  am. 
LMP-EVA    Wait,  Gene.    Wait,  wait,  wait. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  to  get  the  filjn  changed.  Jack  

CC  All  right.  Gene,  change  the  film  at  the  next  -  - 

CDR-EVA  ... 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  -  -  station.    We  can  save  time  that  way. 

CDR-EVA    All  right. 

CC  And  we  would  like  the  SEP  turned  on  before  you 

leave  -  ■ 

CDR-EVA    We  did  that. 

CC    and  we'd  like  EP  number  1  taken,  Jack,  so  you 

can  deploy  that  at  Victory. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay.     I'll  get  -  I'll  get  your  scoop  for 
ycu.     Have  you  been  leaving  it  cocked  like  that? 


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CDR-EVA  Yes.  Of  course,  we  haven't  heen  taking  any  SEP 
measurements,  and  I  don't  know  what  difference 
it  makes . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  everything  is  locked  on,  I  guess  -  How  are 
you  reading.  Bob? 

CC  We've  been  reading  you  loud  and  -  - 

CDE-EVA  It's  70,  012,  501;  67O ,  012,  501. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that,  Geno ,  and  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  got  the  - 

CC  Charge  number  1  and  -  - 

LMP-EVA  We  got  the  gnomon,  we  got  the  rake  -  - 

  we  need  the  SEP  on  -  - 

CDR-EVA  SEP  on.  Jack?     I'll  get  charge  number  1  for  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     I'll  get  the  SEP  on. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  just  hand  it  to  you. 

CC  And  what's  your  frame  count.  Gene  -  Jack? 

SC  Charge  number  1. 

05  23  11*  07    LMP-EVA    Okay,  power-power's  on,  recorder's  on,  the 

temperature  is  112. 

CC  I  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  get  it,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  You  get  in  -  I'll  Hand  it  to  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  And  then  I'll  offer  to  get  the  TV. 

CC  And,  Jack,  what's  your  frame  count,  please? 


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LMP-EVA    Wait,  Bot ,  I  can  give  you  that  on  the  Rover. 

CC  Okay.     I  thought  you  were  on  there. 

05  23  lU  liT    CDR-EVA    Okay,  camera  MODE  svitch  is  1  -  MODE  switch  is  1; 

camera's  going  APT  -  camera's  going  AFT.    Well,  I 
guess  that's  the  breaks  of  life.     Low  gain  on  SEP 
when  I  get  on,  I'll  give  you  -  this  when  you're 
ready.     First  thing  I  got  to  do.  Boh,  is  change 
film  at  the  next  station. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-EVA  And,  Bob,  LMP  is  at  75. 

CC  Say  again,  there.  Jack,  I  -  I  missed  that. 

LMP-EVA  75 . 

CC  Copy  that.     Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA  I  must  be  getting  fatter,  you  know  it. 

LMP-EVA  Fatter? 

CDR-EVA  Well  - 

LMP-EVA  Depends  on  how  you  get  in.    Where's  your  hammer? 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  we  got  a  flag  on  the  Rover. 

LMP-EVA  Your  hammer's  caught  again. 

That's  all  right.    We  got  a  flag  on  the  Rover,  and 
I'm  reading  136  on  battery  number  2. 

Say  again  on  that  one.  Gene. 

I'm  reading  I36  -  make  that  132  on  battery  number  2, 
and  we  did  get  a  flag. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  I'm  going  to  make  a  very  sharp  right 
turn  here  because  I  do  not  want  to  go  down  that 
hill.     Okay.    We're  moving,  Houston. 


CDR-EVA 
CC 

05  23  16  03  CDR-EVA 


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05  23  16  25    CC  Roger.    You're  moving  exactly  37  seconds  early. 


n 


:DR-EVA    Early?     I  could  have  got  -  gotten  that  dark  mantle 
on  the  side  of  that  crater.    That's  all  it  would 
have  taken  me. 

LMP-EVA    So  you  saw  a  radial  orange,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it  was  radial,  Jack.     You  could  see  it  very  - 
It'll  he  in  the  pictures.     Oh,  man,  I  can't  drive 
into  that  heading.     Let  me  get  my  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That  was  on  the  inside  of  the  crater? 

CDR-EVA    On  the  inside  rim  of  the  crater. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  where  the  surface  ...  keeps  slumping 
off  so  it's  exposed,  probahly. 

CC  Quite  a  station,  men.     We  thought  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  get  my  . . .     Okay.     I'm  MIN . 

-  -  station  2  was  a  good  station. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  MIN.     Man,  I'll  tell  you,  that  -  that 
heading  is  going  to  put  us  right  -  Okay,  Bob, 
give  me  a  -  Dang  -  wait  a  minute. 

CC  The  heading  you  should  be  generally  taking   

CDR-EVA    Where  we  at? 

^'^   toward  Victoiy  is  090,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  can  you  give  me  a  bearing  and  range  at 
Vi ctory? 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    Did  you  get  the  TGE  read? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  did  -  I  get  it  read.     They  got  everything, 
■chat  station  -  but  not  every-thing  I'd  like  to  give 
them. 


CC 


Okay,  it's  going  to  be   


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CDR-EVA  Houston   

CC   105  and  3.1. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Man,  I  tell  you  that  LCRU  is  terrible,  when 
it  lashes  into  you. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  you  can  always  zigzag. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  what  I've  got  to  do.     I've  got  to  tack 
into  that  Sim. 

mP-EVA    I  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We  got  to  go  to  Victory. 

LMP-EVA    Houston,  I  don't  know  what  exa  -  I  didn't  have 
time  to  really  think  at  that  station  but  that 
could  -  I  think  based  on  having  found  the  alte  - 
If  I  hadn't  seen  that  alteration,  and  all  I'd  seen 
is  the  -  is  the  fractured  block  on  the  rim,  I 
might  have  -  which  looked  like  the  stuff  in  the 
bottom  -  I  might  have  said  it  was  just  another 
impact.    But  having  all  the  color  changes  and 
everything,  I  think  we  might  have  to  consider  that 
it  coiild  be  a  volcanic  vent. 

CC  Roger.     It  surely  was  different,  anyway. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure  how  we  -  I'm  not  sure  how  we  prove  it. 
We  didn't  have  time  to  prove  it. 

CC  We  noticed.     I  guess  that's  the  breaks  of  the 

game,  sometime. 

05  25  19  03    CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  I  forgot  your  numbers  at  -  I  forgot  your 

numbers  at  Victory.     How  about  giving  them  to  me, 
again? 

CC  Okay.     IO5 ,  3.1.     And  it'll  be  a  heading  of  O90   

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Thank  you. 

CC  -  -  that's  the  general  heading  in  that  direction. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     105,  3.1. 


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I  guess  we  always  have  Station  9  to  look  forward 
to,  guys.     That  may  be  the  same  thing  -  We'll 
prohalDly  he  out  of  time  when  we  get  to  that  one, 
too . 

CDR-EVA    Nobody  likes  a  pessimist. 

05  23  20  11    CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob  -  I  note  on  those  radiators  -  I  have  been 

dusting  the  covers  at  every  stop,  whether  that's 
any  help  or  not . 

CC  Okay;  we  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  sports  fans.    We're  still  about  on  the  - 

well,  I  think  we  moved  -  yes,  we  moved  -  we  moved 
out  into  the  Tortilla  Flat  area,  I  guess.  Not 
very  flat. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR-EVA    Those  kind  I  can  go  through  -  I  can  see  them 
coming.     102,  3.8.     And  where's  Victory? 

CC  Dead  ahead. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  Victory  is  going  to  be  subtle,     I'll  tell 
you.     Bob,  how  long  we  been  out? 


CC 


Stand  by.     5  plus  26,  5  plus  26. 


LMP-EVA    Hey  -  hey.  Bob,  I  recommend  that  if  we  ever  do  this 
again  they  let  me  get  off  and  pick  the  charge  off 
when  we  want  to  deploy  it.     It  really  adds  to  the 
fatigue  of  the  hands. 

CC  I  tell  you  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Couldn't  you  just  hook  it  onto  your  fingers? 

CC  We  -  we  copy  that.  Jack.    And  Charlie's  got  a  big 

smile  on  his  face  here. 

LMP-EVA    Mark  my  words.     There's  Victory  over  there,  I  bet. 
See  that's  the  long  edge. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  yes.     I  can't  see  over  there,  but   


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LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  got  too  much  Sun  in  my  eyes . 

LMP-EVA    That's  the  right  way  to  go.    That'll  be  aoout  it, 
too . 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I  haven't  seen  -  I  don't  think  I've  really 
seen  the  LM,  except  . . .  -  - 

LMP-EVA     ...  "big  rock  in  front  of  you. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Well,  you  can't  tell  much  ahout  the  country- 
side going  into  the  Sun,  can  you? 

CDR-EVA    Put  your  upper  visor  down.     That's  what  -  that'll 
give  you  a  whole  different  perspective. 

LMP-EVA  It  doesn't  vise  very  well.     It's  stuck. 

CDR-EVA  That's  got  to  be  Victory  over  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

05  23  23  03    CDR-EVA  We're  at  103,  3.U. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  That  is  Victory. 

LMP-EVA  We're  still  seeing  the  pit-bottom  glass  -  the 

glass-lined,  pit-bottomed  craters.     How's  that? 

CC  Otherwise  known  as  -  - 

CDR-EVA  That's  geology-ese  if  I  ever  heard  it. 

CC  -  -  the  GLPBC. 

LMP-EVA  Took  you  a  while,  didn't  it? 

CC  It's  11  o'clock  down  here,  guys. 

CDR-EVA    It's  11  o'clock  up  here,  too.  Bob.     There's  a 
square  boulder  -  look  at  that  one! 


Tape  96A/32 


LMP-EVA    Yes     it's  square  all  right  -  or  at  least  one  side 
or  it  13 . 

CDR-EVA  t^ree  sides  of  it  are  square.     It  Just  fractured 

that  way  -  that's  hy  accident,  looking  at  it.  So 
how  do  we  get  over  here? 

LMP-EVA    Go  left,  prohably.    And  along  the  rim. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  where  I'm  going  to  go.     Hold  on. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  holding,    tfhew!     If  Charlie  is  smiling  because 

my  ha^ds  are  tired,  why  did  he  let  you  give  me  -  get 
the  charge  off?    Fine  backup  crew  we  got . 

CC  You  guys  didn't  really  mean  to  say  that,  did  you? 

CDR-EVA    106,  3.2.     We're  approaching  the  rim  of  Victory. 

LMP-EVA    And  the  LMP  frame  count  is  somewhere  around  7  - 
well,  8.5,  maybe. 

CDR-EVA    That..  Victory;  lool.  at  it  go  to  the  left  and  looX 

on  tlVie  ""^"'^^ 
LMP-EVA    Yes .     Yes . 

CC  Okay;  and  we're  picking   

CDE-EVA    We're  at  106,  3.  -  - 

CC  -  -  on  a  Rover  . . . ,  you  guys  -  Copy  that . 

CDR-EVA     1  -  106,  3.2. 
LMP-EVA    Okay,  let's  see. 

CDR-EVA    Tell  me  where  you  want  that  thing  and  we'll  get 
a  pan  around  it.  j-x  gci, 

LMP-EVA    Ok.ay    let's  -  I  tell  you  what  -  you  see  ri^ht 
ahead  of  you  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    There's  -  i  +  t  t -i 

s^ir  r^i  1^^^  ^  Pla=e  you  could 

spin  L?j  a  profile  on. 


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CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  could  do  it  -  right  up  in  here. 

LMP-EVA    And  deploy  the  charge.     Tell  me  where  you're  going. 

CDR-EVA    I 'm  going ,  right  here ;  you  could  put  it  in  that 
hole.    No,  you  don't  want  to  do  that. 

LMP-EVA    That's  all  right. 

CDR-EVA    Just  pick  a  spot  and  take  your  photos. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I've  got  them.     Wow,  go  just  heyond  there. 
Little  bit  more.     That's  good. 

05  23  25  5^    CDR-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  Boh,  we're  at  IO6,  3-2. 

CC  Copy  that. 

05  23  26  Ok    LMP-EVA    Okay,  pull  -  pin  1  is  pulled  and  safe.     Pin  2  is 

pulled  and  safe,  and  -  Boy,  these  are  stiff  this 
time  around.     Push  it  in  -  try  again. 

CDR-EVA    That '  s  a  -  that '  s  a  big  black  box .     Don '  t  pull 
it  too  hard. 

LMP-EVA    Stand  by  on  pin  3,  gang. 

CC  Copying  that.     Remember  to  push  it  all  the  way  back 

in.  Jack,  and  start  from  scratch. 

LMP-EVA  I  did  -  I  did  -  I  did.     I  remembered  -  I  remembered. 

CC  Good,  good,  good. 

LMP-CDR  But  now  I  can't  get  to  the  - 

CDR-EVA  Your  hands  are  tired.     Let  me  try  it  once, 

LMP-EVA    No,  it's  -  it's  not  that.     It's  just  -  it's  coming. 
Got  it. 

05  23  27  00    LMP-EVA    Pin  3  is  out  and  safe. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    And  look  at  the  orange  flag.  Zowie! 

CC  That's  what  you  guys  were  sampling  at  station  h,  I 

bet , 


Tape  96Al3k 


CDR-EVA    Huh?     Yes  -  it's  about  that  orange,  only  a  little  - 
not  quite  as  bright.     Same  -  same  shade.  Okay. 
Okay,  let  me  turn  my  switch  on.    Hey,  Boh   

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute.     Let  me  get  that  out 
a  little  more. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  there's  no  question  hut  what  that  we're  at 
Victory. 

CC  Say  again  there,  IT- 

CDR-EVA    It's  the  first  crater  that  looked  like  I  thought 
it  would. 

CO  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     You  ready? 

IMP -EVA  Let  me  change  my  setting  here. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Good. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let's  get  a  nice  Rover  pan  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  turn  the  other  way  first. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  . . .  slow. 

CC  And  we'll  get  a  Rover  sample  here  before  you  guys 
leave,  too,  after  the  circular  pan. 

LMP-EVA  We  will. 

CDR.-EVA  Low  enough? 

LMP-EVA  Yes , 

LMP-EVA  Look  at  the  light  mantle  over  there. 

CDR-EVA  You  can  siire  see  it  now,  can't  you  now? 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 


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CDR-EVA    Getting  your  -  your  setting  changed  fast  enough? 
LMP-EVA    I  got  it;  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Okay,  let's  get  our  Rover  sample. 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

05  23  29  01    CDR-EVA    And  the  Rover  sample  will  he  from  the  same  locality, 

Boy,  it's  just  a  couple  of  meters  from  the  charge, 
isn't  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  hope  I  didn't  put  too  much  soil  in  there 
for  you.     Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Rover  sample  works  just  as  advertised. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Not  had.     That  -  bag  ^3  Yankee. 

CC  Copy;  h3  Yankee.    And  hov  about  a  frame  count 

after  -  right  now.  Gene  -  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I  will.     Stand  by.    You're  jumping  the  gun 
occasionally  but  not  very  often.  106. 

CC  Copy   

CDR-EVA  Jack.  Okay? 

CC   106. 

05  23  29  57    LMP-EVA  Okay.     I  guess  we're  ready  to  leave  here,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  if  they  don't  want  us  to  stop  here,  I  guess 
we  leave. 

CC  Roger.     We're  ready  for  you  guys  to  leave  there   

LMP-EVA    No,  there's  nothing  else  here  now. 

  and  we're  pressing  on  toward  station  5. 

CDR-EVA    Okay  - 


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LMP-EVA  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  I  want  to  go  at out  120. 
LMP-EVA    Gene . 
CDR-EVA  Yes? 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  when  you  -  can  you  swing  out  there  and  give 
me  one  look  down  east  -  or  north  into  Victory? 

CM-EVA    Yes     I  can  do  that,  we  can  -  I've  got  to  go  by 
that  way  anyway.  & 

LMP-EVA    North.     Well,  you  know,  Just  swing  it  -  point  north 
so  I  can  look  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    I  never  got  a  good  look  at  it.     Well,  it's  a  -  it's 
a  series  of  three  craters.     There's  some  boulders 
on  the  -  on  the  Talus  slope  of  the  easternmost  ! 
eastern  slope  of  the  west  -  eastern  slope  of  the 
southernmost  crater,  the  one  we're  closest  to 

CDR-EVA    Now  how  does  that  look  to  you? 

?1on't\'°°''  ''"^  -  ^^--'^  tne  other  - 

of  Z\  Z:  """^li^  northwest  end 

of  the  V  has  a  white  block  -  white  blocks  on  it  - 

P^fir"  ~  ""^^  -ie^t  at  the  rim. 

And  the  northeast  end  of  the  V  looks  like  it  has 
somewhat  darker  rocks. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Part  of  that  is  shadowed,  but  I  think  tney  are 
darker.     And  they  look  like  about  the  as 
down  here  near  the  tip  of  the  V  on  this  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Got  to  he  careful  on  that  one,  because  there's 
one  sxopmg  away  and  one  sloping  towards  us. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  know.     I've  qualified  it. 

05  23  3128    CDH-EVA    Okay,  we  are  rolling,  by  the  way.     And  we're  a- 

-06  and  -  Well,  we're  still  3.1. 


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CC 


Yes.    Copy  that.    Thank  you. 


LMP-EVA    In  the  rim  itself  though,  Victory  is  -  is  not 
blocky.    There  a  little  -  there  is  an  -  some 
increase  in  fragment  size,  hut  that  seems  to  be 
the  result  of  some  craters  in  the  rim  that  have 
gotten  below  the  debris  that's  covering  it.  I'd 
say  that  Victory's  somewhat  like  Horatio  in  that  it 
has  blocky  inner  walls  but  essentially  a  normal 
block  population  on  the  rim. 

CC  Okay.    And  we've  got  a  Rover  sample  going  toward 

station  5  at  about  103  and  2.5. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    103  and  2.5-  . 

CC  Roger.    And  that'll  be  just  a  grid  sample. 

LMP-EVA    They're  -  none  of  them  Just  grid  samples.  Bob 
(laughter) . 

CDR-EVA    You  see,  you  can't  tell  how  deep  they  are  until 
you  get  up  to  them. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    That  one  I  could  have  gone  through. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Okay;  Station  5  is  Camelot.    Good  old 
Camelot .    ( Humming) 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  the  size  of  that  one.    That's  another  one 
of  those  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    ...  -  there's  another  one  on  the  right.  Lookit. 
LMP-EVA    Seme  of  them  have  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that  one  doesn't  have  any  fragments  in  the 
bottom  of  it. 

LMP-EVA  No. 


CDR-EVA    Looks  like  someone  walked  across  it. 


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LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  that  there's  quite  a  variability  in  the 
thickness  of  the  dark  mantle  in  here.    Did  you  - 
I  for  -  I  didn't  notice  us  crossing  the  -  that  one 
tongue  of  light  mantle. 

CDR-EVA  Ho,  I  didn't  either. 

LMP-EVA  I  -  we  obviously  did   

CDR-EVA  I  think  we  did. 

LMP-EA  Right  at  Victory,  but  it  didn't  show  up. 

CDR-EVA    Looking  into  the  Sun.  you  can't  tell  any  difference 
anyway.    However,  I  tell  you,  I  certainly  get  the 
impression  there  is  a  mantle.    I  would  say  that  - 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  think  so.    I  don't  know  what  it  is,  but  the 
dark  mantle  exists.    They're  Just  -  the  craters  - 
these  craters  are  just  too  big  not  to  have  thrown 
up  blocks.    And  they're  either  subdued  by  the  mantle 
or  they  haven't  penetrated  it. 

CDR-EVA    And  a  lot  of  -  and  these  blocks  -  - 

LMP-EVA    And  I  think  you  probably  have  both.     Excuse  me 
Gene. 

CDR-EVA    And  I  -  I'd  say  they've  been  subdued  by  the  mantle. 
That  -  that  really  imposes  an  impression  on  me. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    There  are  those  that  appear  that  way,  like 

Horatio,  for  example,  or  the  big  ones.    But  others 
I  think,  are  too  young.    They  Just  don't  penetrate. 
Particularly  those  that  are  big  and  have  bright 
halos . 

CDR-EVA    Well,  now  -  yes,  but  the  only  ones  that  look 

fresh  and  not  enough  to  penetrate  are  these  little 
ones  with  the  glass  in  then. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  there's  been  some  big  -  big  fresh  ones. 
We'll    -  we'll  look  for  one. 

CDR-EVA    Now  there's  one  with  glass  in  it,  probably. 


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LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  think  that  one  -  that's  one   

CDR-EVA    And  without  any  blocks  on  it.     That  -  that  may  not 
have  penetrated. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,    Yes,  that  just  has  the  -  mostly  the  shock- 
indurated  rock  -  ...  rock. 

05  23  35  13    CDR-EVA    We're  coming  up  to  103  at  2.6  now,  so  we  need  a 

sample  up  here. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    103,  2.5,  anywhere. 
CC  Roger.    That's  affirm. 

CDR-EA      Okay,  let  me  -  good.     Let  me  slowly  go  to  the 
right  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Right  out  in  that  little  inner-crater  area, 
right  out  in  there  is  good.     If  you  let  me  guide 
you  a  little,  I  might  get  a  rock  sample.  Whoa, 
whoa,  whoa.    That's  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That  wasn't  quite  enough. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.     Pick  a  point. 

LMP-EVA    Move  -  move  ahead  about  -  yes ,  right .    Just  -  no , 
that's  good.     Straight  ahead.     Straight  ahead. 
Good,  good,  good,  good,  good,  good,  whoal  Now 
we'll  give  it  a  try. 

05  23  35  55    CDR-EVA    Okay,  103,  2.5- 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  that  battery  is  still  at  about  132. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.    We're  allowed  to  go  to  lUo, 

tonight . 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  expect  we'll  make  it.     I  think  we'll  get 
done  before  that.    Save  that  for  tomorrow.  I'll 


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tell  you  those  batteries  deserve  any  temperature 
they  want  today,  after  going  -  going  up  that  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  -  that's  the  soil. 

CDR-EVA    that  Scarp. 

05  23  36  27    LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  soil  is  in  hk  Yankee. 

CC  Copy;  kk  Yankee. 

LMP-EVA    That  block's  too  big.     I  can't  get  it.     Too  big. 
Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Get  your  picture? 
LMP-EVA    No.    Okay,  got  mine. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    What's  the  -  well,  we'll  find  Camelot . 
05  23  37  01+    LMP-EVA    And  the  -  125 's  the  MP  frame. 

CC  Copy  that.    And  just  press  on  the  same  heading 

you've  been  carrying  there.  Gene,  and  that  will 
get  you  to  Camelot. 

CDR-EVA    We  want  the  southwestern  edge,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  want  to  go  where  Station  5  is ,  Bob? 


CC  That's  my  understanding.  Jack.    So  press  on  towards 

there  unless  I  tell  you  otherwise. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  but  you  were  talking  about  changing  Station  5. 
I  think  Station  5  is  a  pretty  good  spot. 

CC  Roger.    And  I  think  that's  where  we  want  to  go  - 

I'm  just  trying  to  verify  that.  You  can  go  in  that 
direction,  though.    I'll  get  with  you  if  it's  not. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    It's  probably  the  most  concentrated  boulder 
field  on  Camelot. 

CC  Okay.    You  know  where  it  is,  and  we  think  it's 

about  092  and  1.6. 

CDR-EVA    092  and  1.6.    You  know  this  country  -  - 


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CC  Roger.    But  you  know  where  it  is,  so  you'll  find 

it  when  you  get  there. 

CDR-EVA    is  rug  -  is  undu  -  It's  different. 

LMP-EVA    Wonder  where  Horatio  is? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  going  to  run  into  something  in  a 

minute  if  it's  -  it's  prohahly  right  over  that 
rim  on  the  right.  Jack.    Right  off  your  right 
hand  at  2  o'clock. 


LMP-EVA    Right.    I  guess  so. 

CDR-EVA    You  know,  it  doesn't  have  boulders  on  it.     It  should 
"be  over  there.    That  should  he  it  right  over  that 
rim.    You  know,  I  see  why  Al  and  Ed  heid  trouble 
walking  up  Cone  Crater.     You  -  you  could  stand 
right  on  the  edge  of  the  rim  of  a  crater  and  not 
know  it  was  there. 


LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Man,  that  was  spectacular.  It's  color  on  the  Moon! 
mP-EVA    Whooo ! 

CDR-EVA    It  was  really  orange!     Can  you  see  that  color  on 
the  television? 

LMP-EVA    No  answer. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  het  they  couldn't. 

CC  No,  we  couldn't  see  it,  Gene.     ...  guys  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  the  -  look  at  the  Sculptured  Hills.  Okay. 
I'm  sure  glad  I  went  up  to  take  that  second  pan 
to  see  that  stuff  go  radially  down  into  the  center 
of  the  crater  at  that  contact . 


LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Yes ,  that • s  good . 


Hope  it  comes  out. 


Doesn't  make  any  difference,  it's  there  -  comes 
out  or  not.    Okay.    Sculptured  -  - 


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CDR-EVA    Okay.     Look  at  -  look  at  up  -  up  the  cleft  over 

there.    You  can  see  definite  change  in  albedo  now 
between  the  North  Massif  and  the  Sculptiored  Hills. 
Lookit ,  right  at  -  right  up  the  -  the  valley. 
Well,  you  can't  see  it  -  let  me  - 

LMP-EVA    (Laughing)    You're  right. 

CDR-EVA    You  got  -  you  got  to  see  this.    See  that? 

IMP -EVA    Yes.    There  -  but,  again,  that  may  be  your 
photometrous  effects . 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  one's  an  upslope  ajid  one's  a  downslope. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Yes.     Just  about  right,  but  it's  supposed  to 
be  darker  in  the  -  in  the  cleft  you  know. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  guess  ...  I've  been  on  -  LMP's  back  to 
MINIMUM. 


CC  Roger.    Thank  you. 

05  23  ho  18    CDR-EVA    Oh,  whoop,  whoop,  whoopi    I  wish  I  had  a  movie 

picture  of  us  driving. 

LMP-EVA    You're  doing  it  -  you're  doing  the  driving, 

CDR-EVA    Who's  going  to   

LMP-EVA    Who  you  plan  on  taking  it? 

CDR-EVA  ...  centiiry.     You're  doing  -  Well,  there  must 

be  somebody  out  there. 

05  23  kO  ho    LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  fragment  population  -  We're  at  099,  2.0  - 

is  still  about  the  1-percent  category  of  -  And  it's 
hard  to  teU-,  going  into  the  Sun,  what  kind  of 
blocks  you're  dealing  with.    But  -  my  -  my  guess 
is  most  -  well,  more  than  a  guess  -  most  of  them 
look  like  they're  slightly  vesicular.    And,  in 
that  regard,  resemble  the  gabbros . 


CC 


Okay ,  copy  that . 


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LMP-EVA    Many  -  there  are  -  nov  there  is  something  -  there's 
a  class  of  boulders  that  is  flat  topped  and  fairly 
well  rounded  that  is  just  about  completely  buried. 
Only  the  -  the  -  oh,  not  more  than  5  centimeters 
of  it  projects  above  the  surface.    We've  seen 
those  off  and  on,  both  days.     Remember,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    And  they  seem  to  be  quite  distinct.    At  least  you 

notice  them.    Now,  whether  it's  just  a  continuation 
of  the  mantling,  I  don't  know.     But  -  the  -  most 
other  boulders  -  the  big  ones  seem  to  be  -  project 
above  the  surface  more  than  just  that  5  or 
10  centimeters. 

CDR-EVA    I  tell  you,  the  Sculptured  Hills  just  have  that 
wrinkled  old-face  feeling. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    There  are  blocks  over  there  though,  aren't 
there? 

CDR-EVA    There's  blocks,  but  I  don't  see  any  concentrated 
outcrops  -  — 

LMP-EVA    No . 

CDR-EVA    -  -  or  concentrated  masses  of  blocks  up  on  the 
slope  anywhere  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Possibly   

CDR-EVA    like  you  did  on  the  Massif. 

LMP-EVA  Possibly  due   

CDR-EVA  Oh.    Do  you  think  that's  Cajnelot  or  not? 

LMP-EVA  I  think  that  might  be  Camelot . 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  that. 

LMP-EVA  Nice  shot. 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  that.     Right  on  the  southeastern  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Now,  wait  a  minute. 


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CDR-EVA    -  -  southwestern  rim. 
LMP-EYA    Yes,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  because  Horatio's  got  to  be  on  our  right. 
Well,  wait  a  minute,  doggone  it. 

LMP-EVA  It's  not  Horatio,  is  it? 

05  23  k2  h3    CDR-EVA  Well,  we're  at  09k,  1.7. 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA  No,  I  think  that's  Camelot.     Horatio  didn't  -  - 

CDR-EVA  That's  too  -  that's  too  -  - 

LMP-EVA  -  -  have  blocks  that  far  up  the  rim. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  let  me  -  yes,  let  me  look  -  look  at  the  bottom. 
I'll  tell  you.     I  remember. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    That  kind  of  stuff's  like  Camelot  dust. 
These  blocks  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  remember.     Yes,  that's  it.  Bob.  We're 
coming  right  up  at  station  5-    Right  at  it. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Only  way  to  fly.     Okay.     You  want  to  park  up  on 
the  rim  so  they  can  have  a  good  panorama? 

CDR-EVA    Sure.     I'd  like  to  get  a  little  on  the  other  side 
of  those  blocks,  if  I  can. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  you  better.    Then  they  can  look  with  the  Sun 
on  them. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Because,  otherwise,  they  can't  see  that  other  rim 
over  there. 


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CDR-EVA    Same  heading.    So,  I'll  be  all  right,  there.  Yes. 
I'll  get  to  the  other  side.    Then  they  can  look 
at  these  blocks  and  those  across  the  way.     I  got 
to  go  around  this  block  field,  though. 

LMP-EVA    I  should  hope  so.     ...  seeing  Druid. 

CDR-EVA    Then  you  really  -  There's  Horatio  back  there.  I 
can  see  Horatio  now.  Okay? 

LMP-EVA    Looks  just  like  it  did  before. 

CDR-EVA    So ,  we  came  right  where  we  were  supposed  to . 

LMP-EVA    All  the  blocks  look  very  much  the  same  in  the  wall 
of  Horatio. 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  path  through  - 

LMP-EVA    Watch  it.    Watch  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Well,  that's  a  test. 

LMP-EVA    That  was  a  good  one. 

CDR-EVA    That  was  a  good  test.    Didn't  let  any  air  out  of 
that  tire,  did  it? 

LMP-EVA    Wo,  I  don't  think  so. 

CDR-EVA    Talk  about  a  block  field! 

LMP-EVA    I  think  my  guess  of  30  percent  was  reasonably  good 
before.     I  -  Where  are  you  going  to  park.  Right 
over  there? 

CDR-EVA    I'll  park  right  over  here,  so  that  they  can  look 
in  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Yes.     I  got  to  head  Oi+5,  so  I  head  right  into 
those  blocks . 

IM>-EVA    Oh,  you  still  got  to  turn,  remember? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  why  I  want  to  leave  myself  a  little 
room  over  there. 


Tape  96a/ 46 


LMP-EVA  Oh. 

05  23       15    CDE-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    We're  stopped.    086  and  l.h. 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Not  very  level  for  the  gravimeter.    What's  their 
limit? 


CDR-EVA    I  don't  know,  but  it's  taken  a  couple  better  than 
this . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  I  got  to  change  film. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  things  going  here. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  I  can  get  by  this  station  without  it. 

CDR-EVA    Hov's  our  time.  Bob? 

CC  Stand  by.    We're  talking  about  that  now.  You've 

got  -  Stand  by.     You've  got  25  minutes  at  this 
station,  guys.    We've  given  you  somewhat  of  an 
extension  here.    You're  using  up  some  of  it  back 
at  the  LM,  but  we've  given  you  -  I've  given  you 
somewhat  of  an  extension.    You've  got  25  minutes 
at  this  station.     The  primary  priority  will  be 
subfloor  documented  samples,  and  then  subfloor 
rake  soil.    As  you  can  imagine. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

As  you  get  off,  we'd  also  like  to  open  the  SEP  and 
again  get  back  to  COOL. 

Okay.     You  wanted  to  turn  it  OFF. 

That's  affirm   

CDR-EVA    Turn  it  off. 

CC  -  -  Turn  it  OFF,  open,  dust   

CDR-EVA    You  want  it  off? 


CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 


CC 


  the  same  thing  we've  been  doing  to  it  all  aft  - 

all  evening. 


Tape  96A/Ut 


LMP-EVA  Well,  it's  midday  here,  Bob. 

CDR-EVA  Leave  it  open  and  I'll  dust  it.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Oh,  the  temperature  -  they'd  like  to  know. 

05  23  h7  01    CDR-EVA  Temperature  is  still  about  112. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  You  know,  the  thing  I  -  you  know  the  thing  I  dread 
most?    About  closeout? 

LMP-EVA    What's  that? 
CDR-EVA    Is  dusting  you. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I'm  not  going  to  be  able  to  do  much  today 
I  don't  think. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you  know,  we  don't  have  nearly  as  much  dust 
on  -  because  yesterday  we  were  wallowing  around 
m  It.    Today,  we're  - 

LMP-EVA    Who?  Me! 

CC  Okay,  and.  Gene,  if  you're  not  off  the  Rover,  how 

about  the  rest  of  the  Rover  readouts? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  off,  but  I'll  get  them  for  you. 

I  m  sorry.    I  look  at  them,  and  they  all  look  good 
to  me.    And  it  -  you  know.     I  keep  forgetting  to 
give  them  to  you. 

LMP-EVA    Bob    I  have  135  frames.    I  think  I  can  finish  the 
station,  don't  you? 


CC 


Yes,  probably. 


05  23  U8  08    CDR-EVA    You  know  that  SEP  isn't  get  much  -  well,  it's 

getting  a  little  on  it,  but  those  mirrors  don't 
clean  off  as  nice  as  the  -  as  the  LCRU  mirrors. 


Tape  96A/U8 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bol).    This  looks  Just  like  our  old  friend, 

the  pyroxene  galabro  vith  the  shiny  ilmenite  plate- 
lets in  the  vugs  and  partially  recrystallized 
vesicles.    The  textural  variations  are  planar,  and 
they're  primarily  -  sutplanar  In  the  concentrations 
of  vesicles . 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I'm  going  to  put  this  brush  under  my  -  jny 

seat.     It's  just  getting  too  hard  to  get  off  that 
place  up  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Boh,  what  magazine? 
CO  Magazine  Delta. 

LMP-EVA    Wa  -  vatch  yourself  through  here,  Geno. 
CDR-EVA    Yes.    Delta,  huh? 
CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Delta  -  Bravo.    There's  Delta.    Boy,  this  is 
certainly  a  uni  -  subfloor,  as  we  mapped  it.  It's 
certainly  a  uniform  -  uniform  rock  type.  I'll 
tell  you.    The  only  variation  -  are  those  gray 
zones  which  are  -  just  seem  to  be  either  finer  or 
the  absence  of  vesicles.    Boy,  I'm  nose  to  nose 
with  a  piece  of  it  right  now. 

CDR-EVA    Say,  Bob,  where  can  I  get  a  new  set  of  bags? 

CC  Okay,  you  want  -  The  new  bags,  they'll  be  under 

Jack's  seat. 

LMP-EVA    There's  some  under  -  Under  my  seat,  there's  some 
Geno . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Just  loose? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  23  50  37    LMP-EVA    Here  I  am,  folks,  in  the  middle  of  a  boulder  field. 

Just  minding  my  own  business.     There  -  I  don't  know 
whether  I  mentioned  it.    The  texture  -  mineral 
texture  -  is  -  appears  to  be  subophitic  to  -  sort 


Tape  96a/ 1+9 


of  like  -  like  a  good  diabase,  although  a  little 
coarser.  But  it's  unquestionalDly  organized  with 
that  variation  in  vesicle  concentration. 


CDR-EVA    Starting  on  frame  k.  Bob. 
CC  Copy  that.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I've  got  to  get  new  hags.     I've  only  got 

one  left,  and  you  don't  have  any,  I  don't  believe. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  have  any. 


LMP-EVA    Bob,  there  -  I  have  the  impression  that  these 

blocks  are  buried  up  here.    That  the  mantle  does 
exist,  even  on  Camelot.    There  are  a  few  blocks 
that  are  lying  out  on  the  -  looks  like  they're 
lying  more  less  on  the  surface,  but  you  might  - 
you  can  attribute  those  to  -  to  craters  that  have 
disrupted  the  block  field. 

CC  Okay;  good  observation.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    The  big  ones  seem  to  be  projecting  out  of  the  - 
the  big  ones  seem  to  be  projecting  out  of  the 
meuitle . 


CC  Okay.    Do  you  see  any  such  mantle  on  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Although  I  can't  see  how  the  mantle  in  here  could 

CC   on  top  of  them. 

LMP-EVA    It's  not  as  -  No,  I  don't.    What's  there  seems  to 
be  what  could  have  been  knocked  up  there. 

CC  Okay.  Understand. 

LMP-EVA    I  see  a  place  where  -  I  see  a  place  where  I  think 
we  can  skim  some  off  the  top  of  a  rock,  which  I 
think  we  probably  ought  to  do. 


CC 


Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    But  it  -  I  don't  have  the  impression  of  draping, 
so  niuch  as  I  have  Just  of  burial.    And  I  have  a 
feeling  that  the  zap-pitting  process  just  has 
cleaned  these  boulders  off  -  of  anything  that  may 
have  been  on  top  of  them,  in  excess  of  what's 
around  them,  right  now. 


CC 


0^a.y,  you're  talking  about  


LMP-EVA    Also,  like  Horatio,  the  -  Go  ahead. 

CC  You're  talking  about  mantle  -  blocks  -  then  mantle  - 

and  then  cleaned  off  by  zap  pits,  in  other  words. 

05  23  53  38    LMP-EVA    That's  right.    Most  of  the  rocks  seem  -  that  seems 

to  be  what  has  happened  all  over  the  Moon  that 
we've  looked  at.    But  the  rocks  are  always  cleaner 
than  the  -  than  the  surface,  of  course.    The  -  the 
far  rim  of  Camelot  -  you  can  see  -  fact  is  every- 
where but  where  we  are  and  on  the  rim  near  the  LM  - 
the  -  there  seems  -  the  rim  seems  to  be  completely 
covered  or,  at  least,  the  blocks  don't  show  through. 
They  show  up  in  the  wall  but  not  at  the  rim.  That's 
much  like  Horatio,  but  not  to  the  extreme  that  we 
saw  at  Horatio.     I'd  say,  at  Camelot,  the  mantle 
IS  -  oh,  maybe  -  at  the  most  -  the  rim  thickness, 
if  that's  mantle,  is  on  the  order  of  a  half  of 
what  we  saw  at  Horatio. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    The  pan  should  let  you  measure  that  -  Well,  we 

didn't  get  a  pan  at  Horatio,  but  we  got  some  Rover 
shots  of  it.    But  you  may  be  able  to  come  - 
quantify  that  a  little  bit. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    How  coming,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I've  got  new  bags.     I've  got  new  mags.  I've 
got  everything  cleaned  up  and  - 

05  23  55  00    CDR-EVA    MARK,  gravimeter. 

CC  Copy.    Mark  that. 


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LMP-EVA    Here's  a  -  here's  a  nicely  structured  rock  that  we 
probably  ought  to  work  on  here.    Structured  again 
in  the  vesicle  concentration.    And  then  I  think  we 
ought  to  try  to  get  -  right  over  there,  we  can  get 
mantle. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  I'll  tell  you  what  impresses  me  about  some  of 
these  rocks.    There's  a  lot  of  -  they  may  be  zap 
pits  -  I  guess  you  looked  at  them  closer  than  I 
did,  but  there  sure  is  a  lot  of  -  lot  of  lineation 
in  some  of  that  white  -  white  material.  Jack. 

IM'-EVA    But  at  what  scale? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  on  a  -  on  a  -  on  a  -  on  a  visual-obvious 
scale. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  mean  the  -  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  show  you.     If  you  don't  -  Let  me  see  if  it's 
up  here. 

IMP-EVA    The  crystal  grains  are  -  seem  to  be  linear,  but  they 
are  more  or  less  random.     Is  that  what  you  mean? 

CDR-EVA    No,  they're  linear,  thoiogh.    I  can't  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    can't  be  really  linear  and  random.    There's  some 

rocks  here  that  are  -  - 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  mean  -  - 

CDR-EVA    -  -  that  are  highly  vesicular  and  there's  others 
that  are  not . 

LMP-EVA    That's  right. 

CC  Okay,  and  a  reminder,  17   

LMP-EVA    Gene,  if  this  is  what  you  mean,  it's   

CC  -  -  you  guys ,  that  the  primary  priority  is  the 

blocks  and  then  a  rake  soil  of  the  -  of  the  white 
subfloor  soil  there.    And  you've  only  got  15  min- 
utes before  we  want  you  driving  back  to  the  LM. 
Over. 


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MP-EVA    Okay.    We'll  get  to  work. 

CDR-EVA  Okay  

LMP-EVA    Let's  sample  this. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  these  two  first  and  then  ve' 11  go  get 
that  one,  because  there's  two  different  kinds 
here  -  at  least  apparent  kinds .    One ' s  a  relatively 
new  fracture. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you,  watch  when  you  back  up.     ...  you 
already  -  - 

CDR-EVA    ...  told  you. 

LMP-EVA    learned  that. 

CDR-EVA    I've  already  cycled  film. 

LMP-EVA    We  need  to  sample  the  structures,  though,  in  this 
thing.    We  haven't  really  done  that. 

CDR-EVA    We'll  try  and  get  a  around-t he-corner   

LMP-EVA    And  we've  got  to  get  -  - 

CDR-EVA    picture. 

LMP-EVA    We  need  to  get  that  stuff  on  the  mantle,  too.  I 
mean  on  the  blocks. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     Okay,  we  want  to  get  an  around-the-corner 

picture  of  one  of  those  big  ones,  too.    See  if  we 
can  get  the  structure  of  it.     Okay,  you  get  your 
picture? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

05  23  57  19    CDR-EVA    Here's  a  piece  right  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  can  you  hand  me  a  bag,  or  I'll  pick  it  up 
with  a  scoop,  whichever  you  prefer. 


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CDR-EVA    Get  the  laagl    Let's  see  if  we  can  fix  your  bag 
thing  tonight. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  it.     Okay,  that  looks  like  our  -  our 
old  friend,  the  gahhro,  all  right. 

CDR-EVA    That  for  a  piece. 

LMP-EVA    U62  is  Gene's  fairly  freshly  fractured  rock.  Okay, 
you  can  put  it  in  the  hag. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  here's  another  one  right  here.     That  one. 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  can't  squeeze  these  things  anymore.     Here  you  go. 
Got  a  hag? 

LMP-EVA    Not  yet, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    You  in  there? 

05  23  58  53    LMP-EVA    Okay,  h63.    Is  another  of  the  same  variety.  Wish 

we'd  started  on  that  structured  rock  because  we're 
going  to  run  out  of  time.     Let's  go  over  there 
and  get  at  least  one  off  of  it. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  we'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA  Get  the  after.    Whoops  -  Got  it? 

CDR-EVA  Got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  why  don't  we  - 

CDR-EVA  What  did  you  have  picked  out? 

LMP-EVA  This  -  this  -  this  in  here  with  the  layering  in  it . 

CC  Okay,  guys   

LMP-EVA  I'll  get  a  -  - 

CC  -  -  looks  like  you'll  be  going  in  about  10  minutes. 

LMP-EVA  a  flight  line  photo.  Yes. 


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LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  get  a  flight  line  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  get  that  from  here. 

LMP-EVA    Sort  of  northeast.    Hov  you  going  to  go? 

CDR-EVA    I'll  come  axound  from  this  end  and  go  around  to 
that  side. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'll  go  perpendicular  to  you  more  or  less. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  that  one  right  behind  you  is  ^ust  vesicular, 
hy  conrparison,  to  a  high  degree  -  like  three 
times  as  much. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  hope  those  hags  weren't  in  the  way  of  every 
one  of  those  pictures.    Okay.    Boy,  I  tell  you 
there  ought  to  he  a  lot  of  permanent  shaded 
samples  in  here.  Jack. 

06  CO  01  17    LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  the  down-Sun.    Man!    That's  a  hard 

Moon. 

CDR-EVA    Just  a  little  piece  but  that's  -  see  - 
LMP-EVA    How  about  this  chunk  down  there.  Gene? 
CDR-EVA    Where  you  looking? 
LMP-EVA    That'd  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  think  that'll  -  that  plate  -  piece? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  think  that'l].  come  off  very  easy. 
LMP-EVA    Let's  see  here. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  try  -  here  try  it  -  you're  over  there.  You 
know  I've  worn  the  RTV  off  that  hammer  already. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  saw  that. 

CC  Roger,  17.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    There  you  go;  beautiful  call.    Beautiful  call. 
Beautiful  call. 


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LMP-EVA    That's  why   

CDR-EVA    I  wore  the  RTV  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That  comes  from  15  years  as  a  trained  -  trained 
hammer  bearer. 

06  00  02  18    CDR-EVA    By  golly,  your  geology  training  did  come  in  handy. 

You  learned  where  to  hit  rocks. 


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06  00  02  36    Cm-mA    Bob,  3  -  well,  k6k.     Won't  all  go  in  there  but  -  - 
LMP-EVA    That's  all  right,  you  can  wrap  it  around  it. 
CDR-EVA    I  get  it  -  no,  I  get  it,  babe.    It's  in  there. 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CC  Okay   

CDR-EVA    Ok^,  let's  -  - 

CC  -  -  Jack,  and.  now  -  - 

CDR-EVA    What  do  you  -  can  we   

CC  -  -  if  you  coxild  get  that  rake  soil  and  maybe 

also  get  the  soil  off  the  top  of  one  of  those 
boulders  that  you  thought  you  saw. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Whew.     I've  got  to  have  Gene  with  me  since 
my  -  can't  carry  sample  bag,  you  know. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP-EVA    I  probably  can  if  I'm  careful;  but  I  keep  dropping 
them. 

CDR-EVA    These  rocks  here  have  an  awful  lot  -  a  much  greater 
density  of  the  white  -  white  minerals  in  them,  or 
crystals,  than  I've  ever  seen  before.  Jack.  Where 
did  we  see  these  kind  before? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  when  I  looked  at  them  right  at  first,  that's 
what  I  thought  -  but  I  think  that  the  zap  pits  are 
making  the  white  stand  out  more.     They're  fooling 
you  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA    They  might. 


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LMP-EVA    Because  vhen  1  looked  it  with  the  hand  lens,  it 

looked  like  a  fairly  normal  gabbro  -  like  some  of 
those  that  have  crystallized  with  the  mare  basalt. 

CDR-EVA    Where  are  you?    You  ready  to  take  them  back  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  back  over  here.    What  I  want  is  a  sample  of 
this  soil  off  one  of  these  rocks. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let's  get  that  now  and  then  let's  get  the 
rake  sample. 

LMP-EVA    But  it  looks  to  me  like  it's  soil  that's  been 

thrown  up  there  rather  than  -  This  rock  is  about 
3  meters  in  diameter  and  it  -  but  it's  one  of  the 
flat  surfaced  rocks.    It  only  stands  about  -  at 
the  most  -  one-third  of  a  meter  high . 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    But  we  can  get  up  about  a  meter  from  the  -  the 
soil/rocks  interface  and  get  soil  off  the  rock, 
I  think. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     See  what  you  can  do. 
LMP-EVA    Whoops,  oh,  yes;  I  got  some  soil. 
CDR-EVA    Don't  kick  up  anything  new. 
LMP-EVA    No,  that's  all  right. 
06  00  Olt  56    CDR-EVA    \55  is  that  bag  number.  Bob. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  this  is  soil  from  a  half  a  meter  in.  It's 
about  a  centimeter  deep  and  a  half  a  meter  in. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  take  that  chip  there  that's  lying  on  top 
with  the  next  scoop. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I'm  going  to   

CDR-EVA    Let's  take  the  soil  on  that.    No.    I  was  taking  - 
No.    Okay,  take  that  one  then.    Well,  that's 
another  bag.    Put  this  -  before  you  pick  that  one 
up,  pick  that  little  chip  up  - 


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LMP-EVA    Well  -  I  don't  -  I  don't  want  to  get  the  chips.  I 
want  the  soil.    Either  that  or  a  coherent  rock. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  there  you  go. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we  better  leave  it  at  that. 

06  00  05  ^+3    CDR-EVA    Okay,  k63.     Pick  that  other  one  up  and  I'll  hag 

it  real  quick. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  soil  from  on  top  the  rock.     And  we're 
taking  a  piece  of  the  rock  itself,  which  looks 
pretty  much  like  the  other  one.  Boh.    It  might 
he  a  little  hit  more  vesicular. 

CC  Okay,  and  that'll  be  in  h66 ,  right? 

06  00  06  06    CDR-EVA    You're  right  again.    Here  we  are  and  I'll  be  able 

to  grab  it  with  my  hand.    Put  this  away. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  the  soil  came  from  a  half  a  meter  in  from 

the  soil  boundary.    We  need  to  get  a  -  let  me  get 
over  here  and  try  to  get  a  -  one  bag  of  soil  that ' s 
away  from  the  botilder.     I'm  going  to  get  hqt  after 
while  I 'm  here . 

CC  Okay,  1?  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Could  you  -  could  you  -  - 

CC  Roger.    And  the  present  time,  we  drop  the  raJte 

soil,  we'd  just  like  to  get  the  kilogram  of  soil 
someTirtiere  between  the  boulders  -  as  open  as  you 
can. 

CDR-EVA    My  scoop  in  that? 

LMP-EVA    It  will  be.     ...    Okay,  it  is  now. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  you  want  a  kilogram? 

CC  Roger. 


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CDR-EVA    From  between  the  boulders? 

CC  Roger.    That'll  replace  the  rake  soil  sample  we 

were  going  to  get .    And  we • d  like  you  moving  in 
3  minutes. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Let's  do  it  right  here. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  right  there.    Let  me  - 
LMP-EVA    Oh,  okeor. 

CDR-EVA    This '11  go  -  this  will  be  a  matched  pair  with  our 
soil  sample,  too. 

CC  Roger. 

06  00  07  32    CDR-EVA    Okay,  bag  1+67  is  where  your  kilogram  is  coming 

from. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA  Another  scoopful. 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA  That's  -  I'm  sampling  down  to  about  5  centimeters. 

CC  Copy. 

LMP-EVA  Get  your  hand  down,  please.     I'm  coming  down  to 
you. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  okay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

06  00  08  15    CDR-EVA  That's  full.     That's  U67. 

LMP-EVA  Pinch  her  down  tighter  or  that  will  leak  out. 

CDR-EVA    Jfow  let  me  get  your  big  bag  tight.    Okay,  let  me 
try  to  get  a  -  Jack,  you  got  a  shot  of  where  my 
scoop  was,  didn't  you? 


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LMP-EVA    Yes.    Let  me  get  an  after  of  it,  though. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston,  we  sampled  about  3  meters  southwest 
of  the  gnomon  that  was  set  up  for  the  top  of 
"boulder  soil  sample.     So  it's  a  match  pair,  really, 
in  that  regard. 

CDR-EVA  Don't  forget  your  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  not. 

LMP-EVA  Now  I  need  to  get  a  pan  -  are  you  in  a  pan? 

CDR-EVA  I'm  -  I've  already  started  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  I'll  go  over  near  the  Rover  and  get  one. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  I  got  the  gnomon. 

CDR-EVA  When  do  you  want  us  to  leave.  Bob? 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  do  you  read  me? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Hello,  Houston. 

CC  Hello,  17.     Loud  and  clear.    We'd  like  you  to  leave 
immediately,  if  not  sooner. 

CDR-EVA    Hippity-hoppity ,  hippity-hoppity ,  hippity- hopping 
over  hill  and  dale.     (Singing)  Hippity-hopping 
along.    Okay,  my  golly,  this  time  goes  fast. 

GC  That's  affirm.     Okay,  and  when  you  leave  here  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Vlhere  did  it  go? 

CC  -  -  IT,  remember  that  we  want  to  pick  up  -  - 

CDR-EVA  I'm  giving  you  readings. 

CC  -  -  EP  number  8.     Roger.     We're  ready. 

LMP-EVA  Go . 


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06  00  11  23    CDR-EVA    06  -  070,  031,  and  l+Ol,     670,  031,  and,  kOl. 

CC  Copy  that.    And  when  ve  leave  we  want  to  take  EP 

number  8  with  us,  guys.    "We'd  like  the  SEP  turned 
back  ON  and  the  blankets  closed.    Okay,  Jack,  I 
guess  that's  your  option,  you  may  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  . . . 

CO    stop  and  take  the  charge  off  when  you  get  to 

the  distance  or,  if  it's  only  a  short  one,  you 
might  like  carrying  it  in  your  lap, 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I  can  hold  it  in  my  left  am  on  the  seat. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I'll  get  it.     I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  you  want  the  SEP  ON? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  both  DSEA  and  the  other  switch. 
CDR-EVA    You  want  the  blankets  open? 
CC  No,  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Closed.    Well,  closed  is  -  What  happened  to  the 
Velcro  on  that  other  side?    I  thought  they 
mounted  that  thing,  so  that   

LMP-EVA    It  came  off.  Gene.    It  stuck  to  the  Velcro. 

CDR-EVA    That  thing  they  ...  it.     Okay,  you  got  the  TG. 
We'll  get  EP-8.    The  camera's  going. 

LMP-EVA    We  made  a  mistake  earlier  and  it's  too  late  to 
rectify  it  in  carrying  these  charges. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  don't  know  -  - 

CC  Negative,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    We  did.     I  wouldn't  want  -  - 

CC  If  you  don't  have  it  off,  we  could  stop  and  get 

off  and  get  it,  if  you  want  to?    Bur.  this  is  a 
short  distance.    You  might  want  to  carry  this  one. 


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LMP-EVA    That's  right,  that's  right.     I  say  the  mistake  was 
made  earlier.     There's  no  prohlem  now. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  traverse  to  LM,  low  gain  100. 

LMP-EVA    Did  you  turn  this  on? 

CDR-EVA    It's  all  on,  all  squared  away. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Push  that  thing  down  and  it'll  stay.     ...  Well, 
sometimes  it  will.  Okay. 

CC  And  how  ahout  a  frame  callout  before  you  get  back 

on,  guys. 

CDR-EVA    Got  it. 

LMP-EVA    Yes ,  I  need  some  new  -  Do  you  want  me  to  get  it 
here? 

CDR-EVA    CDR's  at  50. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    170 . 
CC  Copy  170. 

LMP-EVA    LMP's  170. 

CC  And,  Jack,  it'd  be  my  opinion,  since  you're  just 

going  back  over  the  same  path,  that  you  came  up 
this  morning,  it's  probably  not  necessary. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  I'll  use  it  until  it  runs  out. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  I  am  out  of  film  anyway. 

LMP-EVA  But  when  you  leave  me  at  -  Okay. 

CC  Yes,  we'll  let  -  we'll  let  Gene  take  some  of  the 

photos  near  the  bomb ,  on  near  charge ,  ... 


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CDR-EVA    Just  jump  up  again  and  get  your  'boiiib.     Yes,  there 
you  go.    You  got  to  ccme  this  way  quite  a  bit. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Up  this  slope. 

CDR-EVA    This  seat  is  rising  with  you,  for  some  reason. 
There  it  is ,  I  guess.    You're  all  right. 

CDR-EVA  Up  closer  to  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Let's  go. 

06  00  15  16    CDR-EVA  Okay,  the  switch  is  coming  ON. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  traverse  to  LM:     12  minutes,  085/l,l+. 

That's  -  Man,  that  says  086/1. li  to  the  LM,  and  my 
checklist  O85/I.U.    We  must  have  landed  where  they 
wetnted  us  to. 

LMP-EVA    Just  ahout. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Boh. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    You  know  where  we  landed  yet? 

CC  Well,  we  think  so.    We've  heen  transsecting  ... 

positions  tonight - 

CDR-EVA    It  must  he  -  - 

LMP-EVA    It  must  he  pretty  close . 

06  00  15  59    CDR-EVA    You  het  your  life.     I'm  reading  O85/I.U,  and 

that's  what  my  checklist  said. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I  guess  mj  impression  and  it's  purely 
pure  interpretation  right  at  this  stage  -  that 
Camelot  is  mantled  by  whatever  has  formed  the 
dark  mantle. 


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CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    It  does  not  seem  to  te  mantled  to  the  degree  that 
Horatio  is . 

CC  Okay,  copy  that,  too. 

CC  And  give  us  a  mark  when  you're  going. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  I'm  sorry.  Bob   

CC  And  we  don't  have  -  - 

06  00  16  58    CDR-EVA  And  we've  "been  going  ahout  -  a  minute. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And  we  don't  have  battery 

temperatures  there,  if  you  could  quickly  give 
them  to  us. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  I  never  did  give  you  that.  It's  110  and  136. 
CC  Copy  that,  good  enough.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Never  did  get  that  for  you. 
CC  That's  okay. 

LMP-EVA    But  I  tell  you,  the  inner  wall  of  Camelot  is  - 
the  inner  wall  of  Camelot  to  the  east  is  cer- 
tainly blocky. 

CC  Well ,  there  were  a  few  blocks  where  you  guys  were , 

too . 

CDR-EVA    ...  mantle,  too.  Jack.    Yes,  well,  I  don't  know, 
you  could  see  the  outer  wall,  too.    It's  -  Hey, 
here ' s  some  Rover  tracks . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  somebody's  been  here  before. 

CC  Okay,  and,  IT,  what  we're  looking  for  is  deploying 

charge  number  082  and  O.U  on  the  range. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 


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06  00  18  08    CDB-EVA    Okay,  we're  at  O63  and  1.1.    We're  Just  about 

abeam  the  eastern  rim  of  Camelot.  And  there's 
Challenger . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  hello.  Challenger,    You  can  even  see  the 
ALSEP. 


CDR-EVA    I  think  I'll  go  this  way.  (Laughter) 

LMP-E\'A    Gee,  it  seems  like  a  short  day.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  tell  you,  the  time  went  fast. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you've  heard  about  this  coiintry.  Hey, 

looking  over  there,  though,  there's  no  -  we're 
about  -  oh,  50  meters  from  boulders  at  -  in 
Camelot.    And  their  appearance  from  this  distance 
is  the  same  as  what  we  sampled  from  5.     I  think 
we've  pretty  well  identified  the  subfloor.  Bob. 


CC 


Okay,  sounds  like  we  have  and  sounds  like  from  the 
very  deepest  -  even  from  the  bottom  of  Camelot  - 
It  looks  like  it's  about  the  same. 


LMP-EVA    It  sure  does.    I  can't  say  I  understand  it.  But 
that's  the  way  it  appeaxs  right  now. 

CC  You  can't  say  what.  Jack?    Okay,  understand  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  can't  say  that  I  understand. 

CC  Copy. 

LMP-EVA    Whatever  filled  this  valley  -  it  certainly  was 

different  than  the  Massif.     I  think  we've  proved 
that.    And  it,  presumably,  at  least  everything  I 
see  indicates  that  it  was  an  igneous  extrusion  of 
some  kind.     Either  that,  or  we're  -  the  whole 
valley's  been  tilted  and  we're  looking  at  a  -  some 
strange  cross  section,  plansir  more  or  less  - 
relative  to  the  other  mountains,  of  a  crystalline 
body  that  was  formed  at  depth.    But  I  don't  think 
that's  likely. 


CC 


Okay. 


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Man,  we've  covered  19.3  kilometers.  Jack. 
Is  that  what  we  planned  to  cover? 
That's  outstanding. 

I  don't  know.    What  did  we  plan  to  cover,  Bob? 

Stand  by.    But  we've  been  everywhere  we've  plajined 
to  go,  so,  we  must  have  gone  Just  about  as  far  as 
we've  planned  to  go. 

Yes ,  but  it ' s  a  straight  line .  I  don ' t  know  what 
the  wander  factor  was,  but  I'm  sure  it  was  pretty 
high . 

IT. 6,  they're  telling  me.  So  we  went  a  little  bit 
out  of  our  way. 

Well,  it's  all  mileage. 

0.7  and  what  was  the  bearing?    08  -  083? 

082,  I  think,  but  we  want  l.U. 

O.k  -  O.U,  guys  -  you   

Oh,  O.h. 

Yes ,  that ' s  the  range . 

Yes,  that's  what  I  said,  O.U. 

But  you  want  -  you  want  to  bear  north,  don't  you, 
a  -  little? 

Yes,  I  want  -  what'd  you  say,  082,  didn't  you. 
Bob? 

That's  affirm.     That'll  be  close  enough.  It's 
probably  be  right  on  your  track,  there. 

Okay.    Well,  I  don't  make  a  habit  of  following 
myself.     I  like  to  cover  new  ground. 

Okay,  copy  that. 


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LMP-EVA    Watch  out  for  that  nev  ground  there  looks  like  in 
the  -  look  at  the  Italian  flag. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  there  is  one  there.    I  saw  the  hox  before  I 

sav  the  flag.  No,  I  didn't,  I  saw  the  flag  first, 
I've  got  to  admit  it. 

LMP-EVA    Come  on  now. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  to  admit  it,  I  saw  the  flag  first. 

LMP-EVA    The  boss  said  you  saw  the  flag  first. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  082  and  I'm  0.5.    I'll  Just  head  right  in 
towards  the  LM.    Man,  I  want  to  stay  away  from 
ALSEP,  I  see  the  hlg  boulders,  so  I'll   

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I 'm  going  to  go  around  -  - 

LMP-EVA    0.5.    Okay,  you'll  have  to  swing  right  after  we 
deploy,  probably. 

CDR-EVA    Yes .    Whoo . 


CDR-EVA    Did  we  ever  get  any  glass  out  of  the  bottom  of 
those  craters? 

LMP-EVA    No,  we  haven't,  we've  got  to  try  to  do  that  before 
we  leave.    There  haven't  been  any  good  -  - 

CC  Sometime  you'll  have  time  to  do  that,  I  guess, 

guys .    I 'm  not  sure  when  -  - 

06  00  22  UO    LMP-EVA  Four, 
LMP-EVA    Okay . 

06  00  22  k-J    CDR-EVA  '  Okay,  08,  well,  she  just  went  to  1.  Okay, 

081/0. U. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  let's  put  It  in  that  little  depression 
there.    See  right  ahead  of  us  to  the  right. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


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LMP-EVA    Can  you  

CDR-EVA    Got  joMT  pictiores? 
LMP-EVA    I'm  getting  them. 
CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Now  Just  swing  into  that  depression  and  I'll  put 
it  there.    Beautiful.    Okay.    Oh,  whoo. 

06  GO  23  12    LMP-EVA    Okay,  charge  number  8. 

CDR-EVA    You  didn't  get  a  picture  to  the  LM  then,  did  you? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  did.    I  got  several  of  them. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we  don't  have  to  take  ar^  more,  do  we? 

LMP-EVA    No . 

06  00  23  21    LMP-EVA    Okay,  antenna  is  deployed.     Pin  1  is  pulled  and 

SAFE.    And,  let  me  check  that.     It's  dusty.  Yes, 
it's  SAEE.     Pin  2  is  pulled  and  SAFE.     Pin  3, 
pulled  and  SAFE. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  guess  as  long  as  it  didn't  go  off,  it's  safe. 

CDR-EVA    Ooh,  don't  bang  it.     (Laughter)    I  don't  care  what 
they  say,  that's  a  charge. 

CDR-EVA    You're  having  great  luck  with  those. 

LMP-EVA    You're  right. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  the  LM  was  in  the  -  approach  shot,  I  believe, 
let  me  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Go  ahead  and  turn  around  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  to  go  around  anyway. 

LMP-EVA    This  was  I  can  get  a  running  shot  of  ...  -  right 
in  the  middle  of  it  -  let  me  get  you  -  get  them 
both  in  it. 


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LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  ran  out  of  film,  too. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA    Now  that's  pretty  veil  located. 
CDR-EVA    Where  is  it? 

LMP-EVA    When  you  come  axound,  take  a  picture  of  the  LM  on 
yoTir  camera. 

CDR-EVA    I  will.    I'll  take  it  right  out  the  front  looking 
right  at  the  thing. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  and  give  them  a  frame  count.    At  ahout  a  56  - 

CDR-EVA  Fifty-six. 

LMP-EVA  Boh,  I've  got  the  locator  of  the  charge  and  the 
LM  all  in  the  same  order  here ,  and  I 'm  one  more 
than  what  I  just  gave  you.     I  can't  look  at  it  now. 

CC  Okay,  one  more  than  what  you  gave  me  at  station  5 , 


06  GO  25  00    LMP-EVA    . . . ,  Boh .    You  want  me  to  go  to  the  gravimeter 

now. 


iindersteuid. 


CC 


Roger.    And  if  you  guys  will  start  out,  we'll 
drive  you  hy  the  ALSEP,  Gene  -  Jack,  and  if  you'll 
get  out  at  the  ALSEP,  we'll  have  you  take  a  look 
at  the  surfsuJe  gravimeter  and  Gene  can  press  on 
home  to  the  LM. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay. 


CDR-EVA 


Jack,  I'm  going  to  drive  you  in  this  way,  and 
then  I'll  drive  all  the  way  back  around  that  one 
geophone . 


LMP-EVA 


Okay.    Shall  I   


CC 


While  you're  to  the  north,  you  could  drive  in 
toward  the  heat  flow,  towards  that  big  rock,  if 
you  can  see  that. 


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Yes,  well,  okay;  that's  as  good  as  anything. 
Bob,  you  want  me  to  get  some  ALSEP  pictures? 
Negative. 

Okay,  and  Jack,  you  can  stand  by  -  - 
I  got  a  flag. 

-  -  for  a  feedwater  dump  very  shortly.  Okay, 
FEEDWATER,  go  to  AUX,  please. 

I  just  got  it. 

Man,  look  at  that  mess  of  cable.     I  hope  that 
thing's  working.  Bob. 

Every  -  Well,  a  lot  of  it's  working,  we've  Just 
got  to  try  and  see  if  we  can't  level  this  thing 
tonight.    When  you  get  off  there.  Jack,  I'll  talk 
to  you  a  bit  about  procedures  for  that .     And  in 
the  meanwhile,  it's  my  understanding  -  - 

Okay;  that's  good.  Gene  -  - 

-  -  that  the  second  UHT  is  not  in  the  immediate 
vicinity,  where  it's  accessible,  is  that  right? 

No ,  it  is ,  I  cem  get  it . 

Okay;  if  you  can  -  - 

Okay,  and  watch  my  heat  flow  over  there,  don't 
trip  over  them. 

Okay,  I'm  going  to  taJce  a  pair  of  tongs  -  - 
Do  you  have  any  film  at  all? 
No,  I  want  your  camera. 
You  want  my  camera? 

Okay,  Jack,  you  won't  need  -  we  aren't  planning 
on  taking  the  ALSEP  photos  right  now. 


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LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  we're  not  sure  you  went  to  AUX 

on  yovir  water  yet. 

CDR-EVA    . . . 

LMP-EVA    I  thought  I  did. 

CC  Okay,  it's  coming  up,  now,  we  see  it  coming.  Jack, 

don't  worry. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  can  you  -  Okay, 

CDR-EVA    You  got  what  you  want? 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  take  the  set  of  tongs  in  case  I  drop 
something. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  reach  them? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    You  got  everything  you  need? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

06  00  27  h2    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack's  got  my  camera  and  tongs,  and  I'm  on 

my  way. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

06  00  27  50    LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  got  a  tone  a^ain.  Boh.     I  got  a  tone  again. 

CC  Okay,  what's  it  say?    Probahly  just  your  water  - 

. . .  been  huilding  up  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  can't  -  I  can't  read  my  gages.    Want  me  to  take   

06  00  28  15    CDR-EVA    Well,  we  better  take  a  look.    Okay,  I'm  coming 

over  there. 

CDR-EVA    I  just  -  I  think  I  Just  got  my  water  tone.  Bod. 
CC  Okay,  that's  right,  also. 


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LMP-EVA  Okay,  AUX  water's  ON.    We  got  our  tones  -  our  tones 
yesterday.    Can  you  see  anything? 

CDR-EVA  Well ,  not  unless  -  Let  me  see ,  let  me  brush  your  - 
Bend  over.     You  don't  have  a  brush  to  brush  off. 
Okay,  no  flags. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    You  got  no  - 

LMP-EVA  Huh? 

CDR-EVA  You  got  no  flags. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  You  look  good  to  us ,  Jack . 

CDR-EVA  Once  more  -  a  good  look. 

06  00  28  hh    CC  Jack,  you  look  good  to  us. 

CDR-EVA  No  flags.    All  right,  no  flags.  Jack. 

CC  Okay,  and.  Gene,  I  think  you  need  to  GO  AUX  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

CC   if  you  didn't. 

06  00  28  53    CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  just  did.  Bob,  and  my  water  flag  cleared. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that  -  - 

CDR-EVA  No,  it  didn't  -  not  yet. 

CC  Yes,  it's  probably  still  coming  up. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Jack,  just  be  careful  of  the  cables. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  you  want  me  to  get  a  UHT,  huh? 

CDR-EVA  It's  right  over  there  by  the   

LMP-EVA  Yes,  I  know  where  it  is  -  - 


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CC  If  it's  quite  close,  but  if  it's  not,  don't  bother, 

I  think  ve  can  probably  try  this  by  hand. 

CDE-EVA    No,  it's  there.  Bob;  he'll  get  it. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    You  got  a  heading  for  me  at  the  Rover,  is  017 
good? 

CC  018  -  018. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  You  don't  want  me  to  kick  the  LEAM  yet,  huh? 

CC  Negative . 

06  00  29  5I+    LMP-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  I've  got  a  UHT. 

CC  Okay,  when  you  go  back  to  the  LSG,  Jack,  we  first 

of  all  would  like  a  reading  of  where  the  bubble 
is  in  the  circle,  whether  it's  in  the  center.  And 
what  we're  going  to  have  to  have,  unfortunately. 
Is  to  have  the  bubble  centered  in  the  inner  circle 
because  the  -  this  is,  apparently,  a  requirement, 
even  though  we  didn't  train  to  it,  apparently  it's 
something  that  came  up,  and  it's  going  to  have  to 
be  within  the  inner  circle  of  the  bubble.  The 
first  thing  we  need  to  do  is ,  when  you  go  up  there , 
is  to  see  whether  the  bubble  is  in  the  center  of 
the  circle. 

06  00  30  39    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    That  bubble  is  centered. 

CC             Okay.    Okay,  the  next  thing  we  want  you  to  do  is 
put  the  UHT  in  the  socket  there,  and  move  the   

LMP-EVA  Hey,  Bob. 

CC    LSG  from  side  to  side   

LMP-EVA  Bob  

CC  -  -  do  not  pick  it  up.    Okay,  go  ahead.  Jack. 


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LMP-EVA    I  did  not  have  to  touch  it,  it  is  centered. 

CC  Okay,  hut  nov  they're  worried  that  it's  stuck  like 

your  gimbal  thing  was  last  night  and,  also,  the 
thing  is  that  maybe  -  we  maybe  -  something's  hung 
up  inside,  and  by  moving  it  we  can  jostle  it  free. 
They  do  not  want  it  picked  up,  but  they'd  like  to 
have  UHT  put  in  there  and  sort  of  have  the  instru- 
ment rocked  from  side  to  side  to  again  see  the 
bubble  move.    And  once  that  is  done,  to  then  press 
it  down  into  the  ground  and  again  realign  it  and 
put  the  bubble  within  the  inner  circle.  Over. 
They  would  also  like  to  see  if  the  gimbal  is  free. 

LMP-EVA    How  much  do  you  want  me  to  -  how  much  do  you  want 
me  to  rock  it?    How  far  should  I  let  the  bubble 
travel? 

CC  Basically,  we  just  want  to  see  it  move.     You  -  you 

go  up  to  the  outer  circle,  that's  -  that's  plenty. 
And  again,  you  . . . 

LMP-EVA    There's  only  one  circle.  Okay. 

CC  Oh,  I  mean  the  outer  rim,  the  -  the  rim  of  it. 

06  00  32  05    LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  did  that.    It's  still  centered  and  gimbal 

is  swinging. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  the  gimbal  is  swinging  and  we  copy 

you  moved  the  bubble  out  to  the  edge  of  the  bubble 
level  and  come  back  into  the  inner  circle. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right. 

06  00  32  2k    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'm  reading  O89,  20.1,  002,  92,  88. 

Volts  are  65  and  66.     Batteries  are  1  -  l4  and 
138.    Rear  motors  are  off  scale  low.    Forward  left 
is  off  scale  low  and  right  is  210  degrees. 

CC  Copy  that,    What's  the  first  battery  temperature 

there.  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    First  battery  temperature  is  llU. 


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CC 


CC  Okay,  Jack.    They  apparently  don't  believe  you 

when  you  said  you  aligned  it  last  night  and  they're 
concerned  the  shade  is  not  on  20  degrees.  Copy 
ll^t  on  that  battery  tenrperature ,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    It  is  on  -  It's  on  20,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.    In  that  case,  I  guess  you're  free  to  come 

home. 

06  00  33  28    LMP-EVA    Well,  what  is  basicaUy  the  problem  with  it? 

They  haven't  been  able  to  level  it  for  some  reason, 
and  they  were  afraid  that  the  thing  wasn't  level. 
They  were  hoping  also  maybe  by  moving  it  that  you 
might  Jostle  it  a  bit  and  it  would  come  to  level , 
but  I  think  we'll  Just  have  to  think  about  it  some 
more.    The  first  presumption  -  the  easiest  solu- 
tion was  to  have  it  unleveled,  which  case  we  could 
fix  it  this  way.    But  I  guess  that's  not  the  case. 
We'll  have  to  see  what  happens  overnight.     Give  us 
a  chance  to  follow  the  tradition  of  coming  back  to 
the  ALSEP  tomorrow. 

Well,  do  you  want  me  to  change  it's  posl  -  it's 
level  a  little  bit  -  put  it  off  level  a  little 
and  see  if  you  can  work  it. 

I  don't  think  so.  Jack.    That  doesn't  sound  very 
good  to  me  -  - 

Well,  it  might  be  air  in  the  level  bubble  or 
something. 

Why  don't  you  just  leave  it  there  if  it's  centered 
with  the  level  bubble  within  the  inner  -  within 
the  inner  circle  there.    That's  the  requirements 
as  far  as  we  can  tell,  and  we'll  just  have  to  leave 
It  overnight  again.    And  why  don't  you  come  on  back 
to  the  LM. 

Okay,  Gene,  are  you  at  the  Rover? 


LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 


CC 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    Yes,  sir.     I'm  parked. 


CC 


Okay  - 


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CDR— EVA    Gave  you  my  readings . 

CC  Okay.    You  gave  me  my  -  your  readings  and  when 

you  get  done,  let  me  know,  because  the  first  thing 
we  want  to  do  is  work  on  the  SEP  a  little  bit. 

06  00  35  00    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Stand  by.    Get  TV.    Okay.    What  do  you  want 

to  do  to  the  SEP? 

CC  Okay,  Geno.    When  you  go  back  to  the  SEP  now,  and 

let's  do  this  first  and  get  it  out  of  the  way, 
it'll  -  you  can  probably  do  this  anyway  while 
Jack's  coming  home.    When  you  opened  the  blankets, 
remember  that  at  the  back  of  the  SEP  there  was  a 
piece  of  Velcro  on  the  case  and  a  piece  of  Velcro 
Just  above  the  -  just  inside  the  rear  hinge  on 
the  covers ,  and  this  is  what  you  sort  of  peel  back 
when  you  go  to  remove  the  back  end  there  so  you 
can  get  the  DSEA  out.    You  remember  that  piece  of 
tape  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That  came  off. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    That  came  off, 

CC  Okay.    This  is  on  the  side  away  from  you  as  you 

stand  facing  it.  Right? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  no.    That's  the  side  -  Go  ahead.  Gene,  I'm 
sorry, 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  go  ahead. 


CC 


Gene,  I'm  -  if  you  stand  facing  it,  in  the  back 
away  from  you  is  this  -  there's  a  strip  of  Velcro 
on  the  case  and  there's  another  strip  of  Velcro 
on  the  blanket  Itself  and  this  is  the  Velcro  you 
have  to  tear  off  or  to  unhook,  as  it  were,  when 
you  come  to  tear  the  blankets  down  to  get  the 
DSEA  off.     Remember  that  piece? 


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CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  that's  on  the  -  yes,  that's  on  the  side 
away  from  me.    I'm  on  the  LMPs  side  and  that's  on 
the  other  side. 

CC  Right.    That's  on  the  other  side  of  the  top.  And 

what  we're  interested  in,  nimiber  1,  is  that  piece 
of  Velcro  still  mated  or  when  you  open  the  blankets 
to  cool  it ,  does  that  Velcro  come  open?    Over . 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that's  the  Velcro  that's  so  full  of  dust  it 
comes  open.  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  and  so  what  happens  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Trying  to  stay  -  it's  hooked  -  it'll  stay. 

CC  Okay.    Well,  the  feeling   

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  if  you  can  see  that  but  it's  -  Well, 
you  can't  depend  - 

CC  Okay,  well,  feeling  is  that   

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  swung  the  covers  and  -  they  will  stay  open 
about  150  degrees . 

CC  I  -  Stand  by  a  minute.    What  you're  saying  is  that 

the  cover  actually  stands  up  a  little  bit  in  space. 

CDR-EVA  Now,  if  you  want  the  cover  open,  I  can  open  it  and 
normally  it  should  swing  I80  degrees  parallel  with 
the  top  of  the  SEP. 


CC 


Okay,  but  does  that  Velcro  in  back  stay  mated"; 


CDR-EVA    Well,  the  Velcro  holds  -  the  way  that  we've  been 
opening  it  -  it  holds.    Yes,  it's  being  mated  but 
it  -  but  it  and  probably  it  holds  the  covers  open 
150  degrees. 

CC             No.    That's  okay.    What  we're  -  talk  -  what  the 
concern  originally  was  was  that  when  this   

CDR-EVA    The  Velcro   


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CC  -  -  happened,  the  front  light  was  getting  down  in 

the  hack  there  and  warming  up  the  hack  of  the  SEP. 
That's  apparently  not  the  case.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    No,  that's  not  the  case.    The  Velcro  that  came  off 
is  the  Velcro  that  helps  the  -  keeps  the  covers 
closed. 

CC  Okay.    We  were  concerned  ahout  both  pieces  of 

Velcro  since  the  one  had  come  off. 

CDR-EVA    No.    The  other  one  is  still  on  and  it  still  holds 
in  the  back  part  of  the  SEP  where  the  DSEA  is  in 
the  shade. 

66  GO  38  22    CC  Okay.     I  copy  that.     Okay.    While  we're  talking 

about  this  and  I'll  get  back  with  you,  turn  the 
DSEA  and  the  receiver  both  to  OFF,  please.  And 
read  me  a  temperatiare ,  please. 

CDR-EVA  112  degrees. 

CC  Copy  that.    And  I  mark  them  both  off,  right? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Boh,  I  just  dusted  it  as  clean  as  it'll  get. 

CC  Okay.    Thank  you. 

06  00  39  h6    LMP-EVA  Hey,  Bob. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA  I  cheated  on  you. 

CC  I  was  sure  you  would.    What  did  you  do? 

LMP-EVA    I  Just  sampled  the  glass  in  the  bottom  of  a  crater. 
I  documented  it  by  shooting  the  LM  across  the 
crater  at  infinity  and  then  shooting  the  crater 
with  sterep  at  11  feet  and  in  that  cross-Sun  pair 
at  7 ;  and  then  I  s  ampled  it . 

CC  Okay . 


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IMP-EVA    Then  I  took  a  cross-S\m  pair  at  7  after. 

CC  I  guess  -  I  guess  now  gnomon  is  a  LM. 

LMP-EVA    It's  very  fragile.    That's  right.     It's  very 

fragile,  and  I  double  "bagged  it.    I  don't  know 
whether  we  can  keep  it  or  not. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  hope. 

CDR-EVA    You  may  think  about  how  to  preserve  it. 
CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    While  you're  thinking,  I'll  put  it  on  ay  floor 

pan,  I  guess.    Okay,    ^at  do  I  have  to  do  here? 

CDR-EVA    Get  this  bag  off  me  to  start. 

LMP-EVA    Get  that  bag  off  you  to  start  with. 

CDR-EVA    Be  careful  of  that  sample  there. 

CDR-EVA    Those  are  the  cleanest  battery  covers  in  existence 
on  a  Rover  right  now,  I  tell  you.    Oh,  you  don't 
believe  me  -  look  at  that. 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA    They  don't  believe  me. 

LMP-EVA    Excuse  me.    Move  forward  Just  a  little.    And  I'll 
get  your  bag.    Here  you  go. 

CDR-EVA    Now  you're  stuck  down  there,  aren't  you?  No 

you're  not.    Seems  like  you  ...  I  may  be  going 
nuts  talking  to  that  moving  machine  over  there. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  I  -  we  don't  need  any  hooks;  I'll  tell  you. 

CDR-EVA  I  know  it. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  stoop  Just  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  all  that  stuff  is  getting  -  There,  it's  fixed. 


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LMP-EVA    Get  your  hook  back. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  hooked  my  harness  back  up  so  I  don't 
forget  that. 

06  00  hi  50    LMP-EVA    Velcro's  closed.    Okay.    You  know  as  you  look  at 

those  little  sparkles  In  the  soil  we're  walking 
on  and  they  change  colors  on  you  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    -  -  Greens  and  purples,  iridescent.  Iridescent 
sparkles . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I'll  come  over,  and  I'll  iinload.your  stuff. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Now,  we  got  more  samples  than  we've  got 

sense  -  I  think.  Let's  see  here  -  you  got  -  you're 
taking  care  of  the  SEP. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  don't  -  that's  all  right.     Okay.     Hey  Bob, 
the  battery  covers  -  or  the  covers  are  open  on 
the  SEP,  rather. 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  why  did  I  do  that? 

IMP -EVA    Hey,  Bob,  you  think  that  glass  sample  would  be 
better  off  in  the  SRC? 

CC  We're  still  talking  about  that. 

06  00  k2  kS    CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute.    Your  core  cap  assembly  empty.  Up 

and  away  it  goes.    And  that's  all  closed.  Check 
your  bag.     Okay.    Now,  Bob,  you've  got  to  tell  us 
which  one  of  these  you  want  in  the  SCB  and  which 
one  you  want  just  taken  in  because  we  got  our  num- 
bers sill  confused. 

CC  Okay.    Go  ahead.    What  we  would  like  to  do  here  -  - 

GDR-SVA    Got  it. 


Tape  9TA/26 


  the  closeouts,  guys.     Let  me  read  this  to  you 

first  of  all.  In  the  SRC,  we'd  like  the  following 
stuff  along  with  -  let's  see  -  Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    Is  this  9  or  6? 


Okay,  guys.    We're  going  to  follow  an  Apollo  l6  mode 
and  put  stuff  in  loose,  because  they'd  like  to 
segregate  stuff  in  the  following  way.    Like  to  put 
the  long  can  and  four  core  tubes  in  the  SRC.  I 
guess  it's  going  to  take  a  long  -  going  to  take 
a  while  just  carrying  stuff  back  and  forth.  But 
they'd  probably  like  to  get  this  in,  because  it's 
a  volatile  stuff.    They'd  like  to  get  the  long  can 
and  three  core  tubes  in  the  SRC  number  1.    And  then 
we'd  like  to  get  all  the  SCB-U  samples  in  the  same 
SRC.  Over. 


LMP-EVA  Oh,  wait  a  minute.  Wait  a  minute. 
CDR-EVA    Yes .     You  want   


LMP-EVA  Okay. 


CDR-EVA    Three  -  three  -  three  plus  the  long  can;  that's 

four  cores  ail  together. 

CC  Right.     Put  those  in  the  SRC  -  - 


CDR-EVA    All  samples  from  h. 

CC  All  the  samples  from  SCB-l*. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    These  are  k.    You  want  to  get  the  core  tubes  in 
first,  though. 


06  00  hk  kO  CDR-EVA 


Yes.     I  want  to  put  these  in.     If  you'd  give  me 
the  -  Yes,  I  only  got  two  hands.     I'll  come  back 
by  the  time  you  pick  them  out. 


Tape  97A/2T 


CC  Okay,  and  then,  17,  do  you  guys  remember  where  the 

trench  samples  -  the  three  trench  soil  samples  - 
which  bag  those  vere  put  in  -  from  station  U?  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  let's  see.     I'm  the  only  one  who  had  bags,  so 
I  bagged  them  and  put  them  in  whatever  bag  Jack 
had.    I  think. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Okay,  then  that'll  be  SCB-U,  so  we'd  like  those  in 

SCB-U.    And  that  -  those  are  the  ones  that  will  go 
in  the  rock  box  and  that ' s  in  agreement  with  what 
we  want  to  do. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  give  me  those  other  two  cores,  if  you've  got 
them.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Long  can. 

LMP-EVA    The  long  can.     Here's  a  -  oh.     Got  it?  It's 
slippery. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  and  we  need  one  more  core. 
LMP-EVA    One  more  core. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     That  right  now?    Three  core  tubes  and  a 
long  can? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  got  them  all. 

CC  And  then  -  Roger  that.     And  then  SCB-U  -  all  the 

samples  in  SCB-U.    We  won't  bother  to  try  and  sort 
them  out,  and  then  beyond  that  we'll  fill  them  up 
with  samples  from  SCB-5.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Which  one's  that?    That's  5.     Let  me  get  k,  first. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  hold  this.    I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  it's  on  the  gate  right  there,  just  hanging, 
I  just  put  it  there. 


Tape  97A/28 


CDR-EVA    Four  is  the  one  I  had  on  there  at  Shorty?    Or  you 
had  on  at  Shorty?    Yes.    You  had  it  on.    I  don't 
know,  but  they  should  have  that  logged.    That's  - 
I  don't  remember  vho  had  it  on. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  now  wait  a  minute.    I  -  I  took  the  trench. 
You  held  the  bags,  and  I  put  them  in  you. 

CDR-EVA    You  put  them  on  me.    Did  I  have  k  on  at  Shorty? 

CC  Yes . 

LMP-EVA    That's  what  they  said. 

CC  That's  affirm.    That's  why  we  want  SCB-1*  put  in 

the  -  or  dumped  into  the  thing.  But  it's  a  dirty 
bag,  so  we  jiist  want  to  dump  the  samples  in. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  you  want  5  to  fill  it  up.    Okay,  Bob  - 

06  00  l+T  27    CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  it  probably  would  protect  the 

glass  a  bit  better  if  you  put  it  in  the  SRC  gently 
with  the  other  rocks  there.    But  particularly  if 
you  don't  fill  the  SRC  too  full.    But,  again,  we'll 
be  putting  SCB  samples  in  there  to  more  or  less 
flesh  it  out  if  there's  not  too  many  SCB-lt  samples, 

LMP-EVA    Leave  a  space  for  a  sample,  I  guess.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  you'd  better  give  it  to  me.    There's  not  much 
space,  it's  going  fast.    You  really  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Well,  can  you  leave  one  - 

CDR-EVA    Where  is  the  sample? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA    Ho,  I'll  bring  it  to  you-     I  just  -  There's  some 
way  to  - 


Tape  9TA/29 


CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
06  00  1+8  58  CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 


Just  set  it  in  there.     ...  I'll  "be  delicate  with 
it.    Take  this  bag  back.    Okay.    It's  in  the 
right-hand  back  corner  of  the  SRC. 

Okay.     Copy  that. 

You're  just  about  full  -  you  -  you  got  some  left 
in  there? 

I  got  some  small  ones  and  some  big  ones,  too. 

Don't  fill  it  too  full. 

No.    Hey,  we  got  some  big  rock  samples. 

Okay,  Bob.  SCB-6  and  SC  -  wait  a  minute  -  what's 
in  6? 

Six  -  probably  nothing.    But  tell  us  -  - 
No,  there's  samples  in  6. 

Okay.  You  should  also  have  SCB-8  under  your  seat 
with  samples  in  it. 

This  is  what  I  sampled  at  -  - 

At  station  3,  maybe. 

Six  has  the  samples  from  -  from  -  Yes. 

Okay.    Let's  take  up  SCB-8  -  - 

We  have  more  samples  today  than  Carter  -  - 

And  let's  take  up  SCB-6  with  a  ...  and  why  don't 
you  dump  out  the  Rover  samples  into  SCB-6? 

Well,  one  reason  not  to  take  6  is  I  don't  know  if 
I  can  get  it  off. 

Okay.    And  let's  save  SCB-U  because  I  think  you 
may  need  that  tomorrow. 

Four  is  on  the  rack,  empty. 


Tape  97A/30 


CC 


Okay.  How  about  SCB-5?  Is  that  only  partially 
emptied,  or  is  it  totally  emptied? 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  it's  ahout  half  full.  Boh. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  take  that  up  with  us. 

06  00  50  08    CDR-EVA    Bob  -  Bob,  I've  already  -  Let  me  tell  you  what  I've 

done.    I've  got  SCB-8  full. 

CO  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Let's  take  it  up. 

CC  Roger.    On  that. 

CDR-EVA  It's  got  Rover  samples  in  it. 

CC  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  But  I  can't  get  them  all.    They  won't  all  be  in 
there . 

CC  Okay,  8. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Bob,  the  seal  was  clean.    It  was  clear,  and 
I  got  -  I  got  your  four  cores  -  three  cores ,  plus 
a  long  can.    I  got  Jack's  glass.    I  got  SCB-k  and 
a  couple  of  samples  out  of  SCB-5. 

CC  Copy  that.    Sounds  great. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Now  where  was  I?    You  got  me  all  out  of 
whack,  here. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CDR-EVA    Core  cap  dispenser  -  Okay,  you're  clean  cosmic 

ray  is  done.    SCB-5,  yes,  okay.    Now,  Jack,  we've 
got  SCB-5  that's  half  full.    What  have  you  got  over 
there? 

LMP-EVA    Bring  it  over  here,  and  I'll  put  it  into  6.  Six 
is  half  -  is  a  little  more  than  half  full. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  this  is  a  little  less  than  half  full.  Okay. 


Tape  97A/31 


LMP-EVA    That  ought  to  make  one  full  bag.     Hey,  these  are 
big  rocks  so  they'll  come  out  easy.    Where's  that 
big,  big  rock  we  got?    That's  in  one  of  those  bags, 
too.    Picked  up  a  big  rock  -  here  let  me  see  if  I 
can't  dump  it.    How's  that  for  a  lunar  dump,  hiih? 
Perfect. 

CDR-EVA    I  want  to  see  if  I  can't  dust  -  did  you  lock  this 
one  over  here?  -  No. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  don't  lock  those   

CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  going  to  see  if  I  can  dust  them  and  make 
them  work  easier. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  I'll  tell  you  -  I  really  had  to  pull.  I 

pulled  harder  than  I  like  to  in  a  pressure  suit, 

CDR-EVA    See  if  I  can  - 

06  00  52  15    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    SCB-8  and  6  are  going  up. 

CC  Okay,  and  I  understand  5  will  be  -  - 

CDR-EVA    ...  go  up . 

CC  -  -  on  the  gate . 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.  Bob.     It'll  be  there. 

LMP-EVA    And  7  under  the  LMPs  seat. 

CDR-EVA    k  and  5  sill  be  on  the  gate.     You  know,  here's  a 

problem  for  you  tonight.    You  got  ai^  way  of  free- 
ing up  these  gate  hinges  that  lock  the  bags  on? 
They're  -I'm  dusting  them,  but  they're  not  going  to 
lock  -  any  of  them.    They're  frozen  tight,  just 
about . 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    We'll  talk  about  it. 

CDR-EVA    If  you  do  get  them  locked  -  if  you  do  -  if  you  do 
get  them  locked,  you  may  never  get  them  off. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  give  them  something  to  work  on 

overnight . 


Tape  9TA/32 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'm  -  I'm  dusting  them  right  now.     But  it  - 
I  still  can't  free  them  up. 

LMP-EVA    Maai  those  axe  heavy  hags. 

CC  Jack,  have  you  got  the  top  of  the  hag  closed? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  what  do  you  need? 

06  00  53  19    CC  Okay.    No.    John  thought  mayhe  you  were  still  open. 

We  were  worried. 

IMP-EVA    Oh,  no,  I  latched  them.    I'll  check  them  again 
he fore  I  go  up. 

CC  Okay,  and  we  got  no  FSRs  underneath  the  seat.  We 

xinderstand,  Roger. 

LMP-EVA    No,  if  -  I  just  checked  and  it's  -  it's  all  -  they' 
all  in  the  bags.    And  the  Rover  sample  bag  is 
empty. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Not  nothing  left. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  Bob,  neither  one  of  these  bag  latchers  are 

going  to  latch  on  the  back.    I  dusted  them,  but  -  - 

CC  Okay.   

CDR-EVA    They're  not  going  to  work.     I  can't  free  them 

up  

CC  We'll  talk  about  it  tonight   

LMP-EVA    We'll  use  the  seat. 

CC  -  -  Don't  worry  about  it  now, 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  can  probably  -  we  can  probably  use  the  seat 
We've  got  a  little  more  room  than  we  had.  Okay. 
Let  me  get  something  else  done. 

LMP-EVA    I  wonder  if  I  ought  to  take  a  sample  bag  holder  up 
there  to  see  if  I  can  fix  that,  to  see  if  it  fixes. 


Tape  9TA/33 


CC  Roger,  Jack.     I'd  suggest  that. 

IMP-EVA    Probably  ought  to,  huh? 

06  00  5U  28    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Receiver's  been  dusted  and  blankets  are 

open;  power  is  OFF  and  OFF.     Okay.     I'm  going  to 
take  the  TGE  off  now,  or  dust  it  and  then  take  it 
off,  and  then  just  leave  it  there.    Hey,  congratu- 
late Jose  on  that  fender  will  you,  because  I  think 
he  just  saved  us  an  awful  lot  of  problems .    He  and 
whoever  else  worked  on  it. 

CC  He  mumbled  something  very  humbly  about  a  thousand 

guys. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  tell  him  -  tell  him  that's  going  to  be  my 
bring  home  present  to  him  -  a  picture  of  his 
fender . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    Unused  gear,  which  you  have  an  inventory 
on  is  in  the  -  under  the  LMPs  seat . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Where  am  I? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  bringing  the  TGE  over  here,  but  I'm  not  pushing 
it  yet . 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

06  00  55  h2    LMP-EVA    Cosmic  ray's  deployed.    Man,  I  got  the  sorest  hands 

in  the  world,  right  now. 

CC  How  about  on  the  Moon? 

CDR-EVA  (Singing)  Nothing's  in  the  big  bag,  is  it? 

LMP-EVA  I  just  can't  compete  with  you  astronomers. 

CC  Just  keep  trying. 

CDR-EVA  Nothing's  in  the  bag,  is  it?    Big  bag? 

LMP-EVA  Nothing's  in  the  big  bag. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


Tape  97A/3i* 


LMP-EVA    Unless  there's  one  rock  that  disappeared  yesterday. 
I  don't  know  what  happened  to  it. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  we  forgot  the  polarizing  filter  work. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  saw  it  on  the  checklist,  and  I  mentioned  it 
to  Boh,  and  he  didn't  come  back  with  anything. 
And  there  was  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I  guess  I'm  going  to  go  ahead  and   

LMP-EVA  Put  those  in  the  -  under  that  seat,  please. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  there's  only  one  left. 

LMP-EVA  One?    No,  there's  three  or  four  -  - 

CDR-EA  There's  three  left. 

LMP-EVA  Just  put  them  under  there.    Who  knows,  we  may  need 
them  at  the  rate  we ' re  going . 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  while  you're  unloading  there   

CDR-EVA    Dust  TV  before  I  pull  those  breakers. 

 on         500  millimeter,  you  might  squeeze  off 

a  few  shots  of  the  North  and  South  Massif  there, 
if  there's  any  lineations  visible. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  -  I'll  give  it  a  try.    Why,  are  we 
ahead  of  time? 

CC  No,  we're  working  right  on  time. 

UytP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  give  it  to  me  while  you're  packing 
the  ETB,  Jack;  I'll  do  it. 

LMP-EVA    Am  I  -  am  I  behind  you,  now? 

06  00  57  18    CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  -  I  just  -  I'm  going  to  start  invenxorying 

the  Rover  and  pulling  the  breakers  so  -  Man,  we 
are  so  far  off  nominal  on  what  bags.  (Laughter) 
I  sort  of  didn't  think  -  The  checklist  is  going  to 
have  to  be  updated,  I  guess. 


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CO  Totally. 

06  00  57  52    LMP-EVA  Oh,  I  should  call  -  mag  Charlie. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Mag  Kilo. 

CC  Copy . 

LMP-EVA  Mag  Bravo. 

LMP-EVA  Mag  Golf. 

LMP-EVA  Mag  India. 

CC  Copy  all  those.    And  tell  Gene  that  we  can  confirm 
that  his  lens  cover's  off. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Confirm  that  yoxuc  lens  cover's  off.  The 
scissors  are  in. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Lens  hrushes . 

CDR-EVA    I  hope  that's  at  the  right  setting.     It  is 
(laughter) . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  try  f/5.6  directly  down-S-un  or  up-Sun  at  that 
Sculptured  Hills  there  in  the  -  in  the  distance. 
See  where  I  mean? 

CDR-EVA    Yes  I  get  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Boh.    What  else  do  I  need  Here?    Let's  see. 

500,  mag  R,  need  mag  R  -  as  soon  as  you're  through. 

CC  Yes.    I  think  we've  got  enough  of  those  now.  Gene. 

You  got  the  maps? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  got  them. 

CDR-EVA    Some  of  these  won't  overlap.  Bob,  because  I'm 
hurrying . 

LMP-EVA    Don't  -  Don't  smear  them. 


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CC  Don't  -  Don't  hiirry  and  smear  them. 

CDR-EVA    They're  not  smeared,  but  I  just  didn't  overlap 
some  of  them. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Everyone  agrees  to  that.     Don't  hurry  and 
smear  them  (laughter).    I'll  get  those  others. 
Jack,  tomorrow. 

CC  Okay.    You  got  the  maps  in  there,  too.  Jack? 

CDR-EVA  Frame  count.  Boh,  is  - 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Frame  count  is  152  on  the  500. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  (Laughter) 

LMP-EVA  Let  go  of  it.  There. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Dynamic.    Did  you  cycle  it  tvice? 

CDR-EVA  No,  I'll  cycle  it  twice. 

CC  Do  you  have  the  maps  there,  Jack? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  guess  I'll  go  in  and  pull  some  Rover 
breakers . 


CC 


Okay.    And  -  Roger.    Copy  that, 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  hoy  -  Oh,  boy.    Pulling  -  pulling  breakers  is 
not  going  to  be  much  fun. 

LMP-EVA  You  want  me  to  -  you  want  the  scissors  or  something? 

06  01  00  51    CDR-EVA  No.    Oh,  boy.    Oh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA  Mag  Romeo. 

CC  Copy  that .    You  got  the  maps ,  Jack? 


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LMP-EVA    No.     (Laughter)    You  ask  me  that  one  more  time 
partner,  and  I'm  going  to  get  mad  at  you. 

CDR-EVA    Oh ,  I  got  -  What  have  you  got  over  there  -  you 
got  the  scissors? 

LMP-EVA    Yes ,  you  want  them? 

CDR-EVA    I  got  three  or  four  "breaJiers.    Let  me  try  this 

other  one  one  more  time.    Okay.     I  got  it  -  with 
the  old  fingers . 

06  01  01  36    CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    All  four  of  them  out.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  Alfa,  Bravo.    Yes,  sir.    Alfa,  Bravo,  Charlie, 
Delta  are  OPEN.     I'll  get  the  LCRU  power. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  when  you  leave  the  camera,  a 

reminder  to  face  it  away  from  the  Sun  and  tilt  it 
down. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Hey,  Gene.    That's  not  quite  away  from  the  Sun. 

Really  it  ought  to  be,  you  know,  down-Sun. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  **»  I'll  get  it.  Bob. 

06  01  02  29    CDR-EVA    Bob,  are  you  reading? 

CC  Roger.     Loud  and  clear. 

LMP-EVA    I  read  you.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    See,  I  Just  turned  LCRU  power  off;  they  got 
to  go  through  the  LM.     I  got  to  go  through  the  LM. 

CC  That's  right. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  do  you  read? 

CC  Loud  and  clear . 

LMP-EVA    Is  this  gravimeter  working? 

CDR-EVA    No,  it's  not.     I  didn't  push  it  yet.  Hello, 

Houston,  come  on  -  In  other  words,  I'll  turn  this 
power  back  on. 


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CC  Read  I you  loud  and  clear.  Gene.    Do  you  read 

Houston? 

CDR-EVA   Well,  let  me  turn  it  on  and  talk  to  them. 

CC  We  read  you  loud  and  clear.  Gene. 

06  01  03  13    CDR-EVA    Well,  I  just  turned  the  LCRU  back  on.    Are  you 

reading  us  through  the  IM,  now? 


CC 


Yes,  we  came  through  the  LM  that  time, 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    I'm  turning  it  off  and  the  -  and  the  camera 
is  pointed  down  and  it's  pointed  effectively  to  the 
west  -  down-Sun. 


CC 


Okay.    Copy  that.    Very  good.    Thank  you. 


06  01  03  27    CDR-EVA    LCRU  POWER'S  going  OFF.    Okay,  LCRU  POWER  is  OFF. 

Battery  covers  -  open  hattery  covers.  They're  all 
dusted  already. 

CC  Roger  that.    Roger.    They're  reading  us.    17,  you 

read  Houston? 

CDR-EVA    Uh-ooh,  I  got  to  -  got  to  work  on  one  battery. 

CC  17,  you  read  Houston? 

CC  17,  you  read  Houston?  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob  -  - 

CC  Roger,  17.    Do  you  read? 

CDR-EVA    Still  there?    Well,  they're  supposed  to  be  going 
through  the  LM  . . . 

CC  17,  do  you  read  Houston? 

LMP-EVA    Got  something  fouled  up.    Maybe  we  got  the  switches 
wrong,  or  something,  up  there.     ...  think  so, 
though . 

CDR-EVA  No. 

LMP-EVA   They  talked  to  us  first. 


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CDE-EVA    Let  me  give  them  a  call. 

CC  17 »  do  you  reeid  Houston?  Over. 

06  01  05  09    CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  want  to  try  again.    We're  on  the  LCRU. 

Yes,  we  read  you,  but  I'm  on  the  LCRU  again.  We're 
not  reading  you  through  the  LM. 

CC  Yes,  I  don't  understand  that.     Stand  by.     Press  on 

with  the  rest  of  the  closeout. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  leave  you  on  the  LCRU,  here.     And  we're 
pressing  on.    Okay.    For  the  first  time,  I've  got 
to  dust  the  center  battery  cover.    All  the  others 
are  good. 

CC  Okay.    Roger,  IT-    Do  you  read  Houston  now? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  yes,  but  I'm  on  the  LCRU.     I  don't  know. 

CC  No,  now  they  say  we're  going  back  to  the  LM  again. 

Press  on  with  the  closeout . 

06  01  05  h6    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    I'm  going  to  go  t\arn  the  LCRU  POWER, 

OFF.    And  for  the  first  time,  I've  got  to  dust  the 
center  radiator  on  the  batteries . 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    ...  until  this  time,  they've  all  been  real  clean. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Give  me  a  short  count.     And  In  the  interim 
I'm  going  to  turn  the  LCRU  POWER,  OFF. 

CC  Okay.     Roger.     1-2-3,  3-2-1.     Okay,  Houston,  or  17, 

do  you  read  Houston?  Over. 

06  01  06  15    CDR-EVA    Okay.    We've  got  you. 

CC  Okay;  veiy  good. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    We  got  you.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.    We've  got  about  20  minutes  before  we  have 

to  be  inside  the  LM  there,  fellows.    Let's  hustle 
on. 


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CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  think  we'll  just  sort  of  take  it  easy.  Bob. 
Okay.    The  MESA's  tidied. 

CC  Thajik  you. 

LMP-EVA  I've  got  the  canisters;  pins  are  green. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  The  LM  canister's  in  the  pocket. 

CC  Very  good. 

LMP-EVA  And,  let's  see.     I  think  I'm  ready  to  dust.  Could 
I  help  you? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'm  leaving  here  right  now, 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  as  you  go  l>y,  how  about  giving 

us  the  SEP  temperature  readings . 

CDR-EVA     ...  I  got  to  take  these  hags  up.     Oh,  me.     I  will. 

CC  17,  Houston.    It's  awfully  quiet. 

06  01  07  55    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    Here's  your  reading.     About  100  and  - 

about  108  to  10  degrees. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    Okay.    We'll  leave  it  there, 

as  is,  overnight.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'll  give  it  one  good  little  smack  with  the 
brush.    And  it's  as  clean  as  it'll  ever  come. 

CC  Okay.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  you  might  just  as  well  go  cold  water.  There's 
no  more  use  for  it  now,  if  you're  warm. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I'm  not  warm  I'm  Just  -  want  to  hand  me  that 
other  SCB  there. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man!     (Laughter).     Oh,  the  -  The  cover's 
open  on  this  one . 

LMP-EVA    You  wonder  why  it's  hard  to  get  up  the  ladder. 

CDR-EVA    Don't  hold  it  by  the  cover. 


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LMP-EVA  What  do  I  want  these  tongs  on  for? 

CDR-EVA  Give  them  to  me.    I'll  take  them  out. 

LMP-EVA  Just  noticed  them. 

CDR-EVA  Don't  want  them. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA  Don't  take  it  hy  the  cover.    The  cover's  going  to 
come  open.    Take  it  by  this. 

LMP-EVA  Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  Got  it? 

LMP-EVA  I  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Probably  got  tongs  on  for  the  same  reason  I've  got 
them  on, 

06  01  09  ^9    CC  And,  1T»  we're  ready  for  a  grav  measurement. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.  Bob.     Just  cleaning  up  the  Rover.  Get- 
ting our  tongs  out  of  the  way. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    And  for  your  information  -  for  your  information, 
at  this  heading,  the  -  the  western-most  battery 
cover,  like  I  talked  about  yesterday,  is  Just 
starting  to  cover  the  -  just  started  to  cover  the 
radiators . 

CC  Okay;  cover  that  -  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    (Humming)     You  know,  I  think  another  good  day's 
work. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Okay.    I  dusted  all  that.    I  just  knocked  as 
hard  as  I  could,  on  my  feet,  several  -  several 
times . 


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CDR-EVA  What  you're  going  to  say  is  you  want  me  to  brush 
you,  huh?  Well,  let  me  keep  this  out  of  the  way 
so  it  doesn't  get  dusty, 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Wonder  if  oiir  bouncing  around  that  gravimeter  is 
going  to  disturn  it  like  this. 

LMP-EVA  Shouldn't. 

CDR-EVA  Got  to  do  -  well   

LMP-EVA  ...  Want  me  down. 

CDR-EVA  You  got  to  do  me  first. 

LMP-EVA  Yea .    Plink . 

CDR-EVA  You're  not  nearly  as  dusty  as  you  were  yesterday; 
you're  Just  dirty,  that's  all. 

LMP-EVA  Well. 

CDR-EVA    1  think  I  can  get  everything  off  my  shoes  hy 

hanging,  if  you'll  Just  get  ray  arms.     I  didn't 
really  fall  in  much  todeor,  except  maybe  my  left 
am.    But  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  tell  you,  we  saw  some  of  the  things  I  think  we 
saw  today.    We  both  fell  in  (laughter). 

CDR-EVA    Don't.  Oh! 
LMP-EVA    What?    I  hurt  you? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  you're  hitting. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  you're  right.    Sorry.    I  don't  have  much 
control  (laughter). 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)  I  know  it.    That's  the  way  mine  feels. 
That's  dirty.  There. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  glad  they  can't  see  this. 


Tape  9TA/li3 


CDR-EVA  Oh,  I  stand  out  here  and  I  look  at  that  flag,  and 
I  look  at  the  Rover,  and  I  look  at  those  massifs. 
It's  still  hard  to  believe. 

LMP-EVA    What  did  we  deserve  to  do  -  do  to  deserve  being 
out  here,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    That's  not  very  good.     Let  me  get  your  - 

some  -  your  PLSS,  here.    Keep  -  go  forward  just  a 
little .     . . .    There  you  go . 

LMP-EVA    Thiiik  your  sheirp  turns  Eire  -  Hey,  that  fender  is  - 
is  really  a  classic.    One  might  say  it's  a  Young 
fender;  just  put  it  on. 

CDR-EVA   Do  we  need,  do  we  really  need  those  clamps?  ... 
clamps? 

LMP-EVA    Ho.  No. 

06  01  12  53    CDR-EVA    I  can't  think  of  anything  we  need  them  for.  That 

that  light  -  but  you  can  tie  that  light 
somewhere  -  - 

LMP-EVA    We  don't  -  well  - 

CDR-EVA    I  might  bring  one  back. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    We  ought  to  leave  one  in  tribute  -  Dr.  Young 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  that  orange  soil  was  something. 
LMP-EVA  Huh? 

CDR-EVA    And  the  way  it  went  radially  down  that  -  down  that 
crater.    Let  me  turn,  and  then  take  another  look, 
and  then  I ' 11  -  then  you  get  up  there . 

LMP-EVA    You  got  quite  a  bit  arotmd  your  hoses  here. 

CDR-EVA    My  hoses? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  and  I  don't  know  what  I  can  do  about  it, 
Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  just  give  it  a  swap  ... 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  I  got  it  the  best  I  could.    Let  me  get  the 
top  of  your  LCHU  there. 

CDR-EVA  Mine's  pretty  good. 

LMP-EVA  ...  ECU. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  mine's  good.    Okay.     Let  me  get  to  your  front. 

LMP-EVA  No,  I  didn't  get  your  other  arm  here. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  know  that  I  can. 

CDR-EVA  It's  the  inside  am.    I  don't  have  anything  on  it. 

LMP-EVA   No,  that's  right.    You  don't.    It  isn't  -  it's 
ahout  the  same. 

CDR-EVA    When  you  fall  out  -  you  fall  out  on  your  other 
aim. 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  -  there  is  some  on  that  leg  there. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

IMP -EVA    Don't  know  what  I'm  going  to  do  about  it.     I  think 
we're  Just  going  to  have  to  make  do. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  see  what  I  C6U1  do  with  you.    Just  look  at 
me. 

06  01  ll*  22    LMP-EVA    What  is  this  rock,  right  here,  by  the  pad. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  -  I.    Did  I  Just  turn  your  conm? 
Do  you  still  hear  me? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    I've  Just  been  intending  to  mention  that 

several  times.    Anybody  that  lands  on  a  rock  ought 
to  have  their  head  examined. 

CDR-EVA    Put  their  ladder  -  Boy,  where  have  you  been  again 
today? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  played  some  games  there  around  station  3. 
I'm  sorry. 


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CDR-EVA    Boy,  oh»  toy! 
LMP-EVA    Wasn't  intentional. 

CDR-EVA    Whoo  -  But  I  -  lot  of  your  turns   

CDR-EVA    Hold  your  arm  up.    Hold  your  arm  up. 
LMP-EVA    Lot  of  your  turns  threw  dust  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  noticed  that  (chuckle). 
LMP-EVA  on  me. 

CDR-EVA  Gosh  dang  that  rock!  If  I  was  strong  enough,  I'd 
move  it.  Hey,  I  am  strong  enough.  That's  one  we 
ought  to  bring  home. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  if  we  can't  fill  up  the  LM  with  everything 
else. 

CDR-EVA    That's  about  the  size  of  the  S  -  SRC.    Stand  up  on 
the  pad.    Oh,  shoot!     First  time  that's  happened. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  hold  on  to  me. 

CDR-EVA    You  know ,  by  rights  ,  that  should  of  happened  more . 

I  want  to  get  around  back  and  then  I  want  you  to 
get  up  on  the  ladder  some.    Oh,  man,  let  me  get 
the  back  of  yoxir  PLSS.    What  did  you  bump  against? 
I  guess  that's  from  the  Rover  seat. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    No,  I  mean  you  got  a  couple  abrasions  right  on 
throiJgh  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    So  do  you.     I  wasn't  going  to  mention  them. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  these  are  only  a  pin-hole  thick,  but  -  - 

LMP-EVA    All  I  can  say  is  it's  better  than  walking. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  I'll  tell  you,  we  covered  over  20  kilo- 
meters today,  babe.    You  like  to  walk  up  and  down 
those  hills  and  ditches  at  20  kilometers?  Okay. 
Can  you  -  turn  towards  me?    I  want  to  get  the  front 
of  your  legs  one  time  (laughter).     Come  back. 


Tape  9TA/1+6 


06  01  16  Ul    CC  Okay.    And,  17,  Houston  -  how's  the  dusting  coming? 

LMP-EVA    Man,  you've  had  your  day  of  dusting,  haven't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  almost  there.    I'm  going  to  send  the 
LMP  in  in  ahout  a  minute. 

CC  Ok^.    We're  getting  to  a  point  where  we  need  

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  tell  you,  I've  ...  more  hours  ...  dustbrush  -  - 

CC    where  we  need  to  he  inside  in  less  than 

10  minutes,  with  the  thing  closed  up. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.    We're  on  our  way,  Boh.    That  takes  care 
of  it.    Knock  your  feet  off.  Jack.    Knock  your 
feet  off  on  the  ladder. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And  don't  forget  the  antennas,  guys. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I  need  the  pallet. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  Bob,  you're  a  beauty.    How  did  you  think  of 
that? 

CC  John  suggested  it. 

CDR-EVA    John  who?    (Laughter)    He  strikes  again.  You'd 

broke  yours  off  sure,  because  I  wouldn't  have  seen 
it  as  you  went  up  unless  I  took  inventory  with  my 
book,  which  I'll  do  here  in  a  minute.    Open  battery 
covers,  taken  care  of;  dusted  LCRU;  blankets  open  * 
100  percent.    They've  been  open  100  percent  all 
day. 

CC  Ok^. 

LMP-EVA    If  I  can  Just  get  up  here.    Oh,  shoot.    I  forgot 
a  snap  up  there. 

CDR-EVA    Now,  let's  make  sure  we  got  all  of  those.     I  don't 
want  to  get  hvmg  up  on  anything. 

LMP-EVA    Here.    I  mean  I  forgot  to  put  the  antenna  under  the 
snap  -  under  the  other  thing. 


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CDR-EVA    ...  get  the  snap. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.     Get  it. 
LMP-EVA    Okay.    You're  set. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Go  on  up.  Jack,  and  I'm  going  to  read  the 
gravimeter. 

06  01  19  00    LMP-EVA    I  need  that  pallet  before  I  go. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  and.  Gene,  we  don't  think  you've  punched  the 

grav  reading  yet. 

CDR-EVA    Yes  -  Yes,  I  did.  Boh.     I'm  going  to  read  it  for 
you  in  a  minute. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

06  01  19  2h    CDR-EVA    The  reading  is  670,  023,  501;  that's  670,  023,  501. 

CC  Okay.     We  got  that.     Go  to  STANDBY.     Open  the  cover 

and  dust  the  radiator  if  it  needs  it.     Or  dust  the 
radiator,  period. 

06  01  19  U7    CDR-EVA    It's  dusted  already  -  it's  dusted  already,  I  took 

care  of  that.    And  I'm  in  STANDBY. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Final  check  -  LRV.    Blankets  open  100; 

battery  covers,  open;  samples  off.    We  checked 
under  both  seats.    Eqtilpment  stowed.    Okay.  You're 
all  clean  to  go  in.    Okay.     Dust  SEP,  blankets 
open;  verify  POWER,  OFF;  RECORDER,  OFF;  TGE,  that's 
read,  that's  where  I  dusted.     Tidy  the  MESA 
blankets  -  they're  okay.     Okay,  and  I've  got  this 
box  to  bring  up  when  I  go.    Okay,  let's  see  -  Oh, 
man ,  that ' s  bright  -  no  PLSS  antenna ,  brush  the 
ladder  hook,  EVA  pallet  to  LMP  -  you  got  it  -  the 
pins  are  green  and  reading,  STANDBY,  open  TGE 
thermal  cover  lid  and  dust  -  that's  done.  Final 
check:    we  got  the  pallet,  ETB  is  on  the  hook,  you 
inventoried  the  S-IVBs  [sic],  Mr.  Parker,  and  I 
guess  you're  happy  we  got  them  all. 


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CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    SRC-2  is  in  my  hand.    The  big  bag  is  not  required. 

CC  Roger  that.    And  we're  ready  to  call  you  all  in  as 

you  go  through  the  hatch. 

05  01  21  05    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Jack's  going  in  with  the  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack's  halfway  through  it  now,  and  I'm  going 
on  up  the  ladder. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  my;  oh  me.    How  you  coming? 

LMP-EVA    Just  about  there. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  a  nice  one-handed  first  step.  Godspeed 
the  crew  of  Apollo  IT.    I'm  going  to  keep  reading 
that.     I  like  that  message.    How's  Captain  America, 
speaking  of  Apollo  17. 

CC  Captain  America  is  sound  asleep  -  just  about  to 

come  around  to  AOS.    We  think  he's  sound  asleep, 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  how  does  that  always  happen?    That  happened 
yesterday. 


CC 


He  got  up  before  noon  this  morning,  too, 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  okay.    Just  take  it  easy.  Jack,  it'll  -  here 
you  go  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Pip  pin  didn't  work. 

CDR-EVA    Lot  of  things  don't  work  when  your  hands  get  tired; 
that's  the  problem.    Wasn't  a  bad  day.     How  long 
we  been  out.  Bob.    Of  course,  we're  still  out. 

06  01  22  37    CC  7  plus  27,  so  far. 

CDR-EVA    7  plus  27? 
CC  How  does  that  grab  you? 

CC  Well,  we're  getting  anxious  to  get  you  in  and  get 

the  hatch  closed. 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  we  understand  that. 

06  01  22  57    CDR-EVA    Jack's  unloading  the  pallet  and  as  soon  as  it 

comes  out,  I'll  shove  this  stuff  in,  and  we'll 
be  gone. 

LMP-LM     Just  takes  a  certain  amount  of  time. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.    Are  the  three  SCBs  inside  the  hatch 

already? 

CDR-EVA    Ho  -  Bob,  I  don't  think  any  of  them  are  inside. 
Let's  see  I've  got  -  - 


LMP-LM  No. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  I've  got  8  here  and  6  here  and  -  and  we  emptied 
the  contents  of  k  into  the   


CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    SRC,  and  we  emptied  the  contents  of  5  into  one 

of  these  other  two  bags.  So  we've  only  got  two  of 
them  here,  plus  the  SRC. 

CC  Roger  that . 

CDR-EVA    Five  went  into  6. 


CC  Roger  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  we've  got  two  of  them  hanging  on  the  tail  of 

the  Rover.    And  I  don't  know  what  it  is  under 

Jack's  seat  right  now. 

LMP-LM  Seven  is  under  my  seat. 

CC  We  copy  that.    Don't  worry  about  it. 

06  01  2k  03    LMP-LM  One  more  battery,  Geno,  and  it's  yours. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-LM  You  always  used  to  stand  and  watch  me  do  this , 
anyway. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  but  we  had  some  long  EVAs  at  the  Cape,  but  - 


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LMP-LM     There  you  go. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Just  be  careful  of  the  -  let  me  get  up  there 
a  little  farther.     Careful  of  that  hatch.  Getting 
to  look  like  a  regular  garbage  dump  down  there. 

LMP-LM     Okay.  Ready? 
CDR-EVA    Sorry,  babe, 
LMP-LM      It's  all  right, 

GDR-LM     Now,  this  one's  going  to  come  open  if  we're  not 

careful.    Let  me  see  if  I've  got  one  more  step  to 
go  up.    No  I  think  that's  the  last  one.     I'll  just 
hold  it  here  until  you  get  it.    I  could  shove  that 
in  if  I  push  it  with  the  SRC.    Jack,  the  cap '11 
come  open.    Be  careful. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    We  got  big  silver  box. 

CDR-EVA  Can  you  push  on  that  a  little  bit? 

LMP-LM  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

06  01  26  13    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  you've  got  the  two  SR  -  two  SCBs  - 

LMP-LM  I'll  push  it  in. 

CDR-EVA    SRC,  and  there  goes  the  ETB. 

CC  Copy  that.    Now  how  about  a  CDR? 


CDR-EVA    There's  only  one  thing  left  -  that's  right,  that's 
the  only  thing  left  out  here. 

LMP-LM     Are  you  on  a  checklist? 

CDR-EVA    Ho,  I'm  not  even  on  my  checklist,  but  I  guess  - 
Yes,  I  am,  it  says  INGRESS.    Let  me  knock  some 
more  dust  off. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     Let  me  get  behind  the  door. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  going  to  take  what  dust  I  got  in  with  me. 
Oh! 


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06  01  27  08  LMP-LM 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

06  01  28  11  LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Push.    There  you  go.    Keep  ...  close.    You're  good, 
Beautiful,    Just  float  in.    Hanging  up  a  little 
on  the  purse,  but  that's  all  right.    There  you 
go. 


Oh! 


That's  my  arm  I'm  getting  in  the  way,  there  -  Let 
me  get  out  of  the  way  - 

Let  me  just  check  that  seal  "before  we  close  that . 
Okay.    Can  you  get  your  arm  off? 

Okay. 

There's  no  hig  rocks  in  it,  that  I  can  see.  Lots 
of  dust  on  the  floor. 

Yes,  I  think  it's  okay.  Okay,  the  hatch  is  partially 
closed  -  - 

Let  me  get  it.     I  think  it  says  to  lock  it,  doesn't 
it? 

Well,  we're  supposed  to  close  our  water  first. 

Okay,  FORWARD  HATCH,  CLOSE  and  LOCK;  dump  valves 
hoth  AUTO,  okay;  confirm  ovir  water  CLOSED.  Let 
me  see  if  I  can't  get  my  ...  here. 

Here,  why  don't  I  get  yoiars  and  you  get  mine. 

Okay.    I  just  got  mine.    And  if  you'll  turn,  I'll 
get  yours.    You'll  have  to  -  your  PLSS  -  your 
right  arm  high;  pick  it  up  high. 

Oh,  wait  a  minute. 

No ,  I  can't  reach  you.  Jack,  unless  you  turn  - 

Don't  move  yet;  don't  turn  around. 

Okay. 

Move  over  to  the  corner. 

Okay.     ...  sure  I  got  the  right  ones.     Far  right, 
fair  left,  secure  oxygen.    Okay.     Your  water's  OFF. 


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LMP-LM      Okay.    Water's  OFF. 

CDR-LM     Now,  stay  there  and  I'll  lock  the  hatch. 

LMP-LM      I've  got  to  get  into  position  to  do  the  other  good 
things.    You  go  ahead, 

CDR-LM     Am  I  -  Do  you  have  enough  room  or  do  I  need  to  turn? 
No,  let  me  get  down  there.    Nov,  why  can't   

LMP-LM      Okay.    Let  me  turn  back;  get  out  of  your  way. 
Got  it? 

06  01  29  hk    CDR-LM     Okay.    Hatch  is  closed  and  locked. 


CC 


Okay.  And  rememher,  I  think  it's  the  overhead 
valve  that  you  have  to  position  to  OPEN. 


LMP-LM     That's  right. 

CDR-LM     Yes,  you'll  have  to  move  over.  Jack,  so  I  can 
reach  it. 

CC  And  you  ought  to  verify  both,  I  guess. 

CDR-LM     You're  going  to  have  to  wait,  then. 
LMP-LM     Can  you  reach  it  now? 

CDR-LM-    Okay.    Ho,  you  got  to  -  got  to  swing  left   

LMP-LM     Well,  I'll  have  to  - 
CDR-EVA    -  -  Right. 

LMP-LM     I'll  have  to  turn  around,  then.    How's  that? 
Any  better? 

CDR-LM     No,  you've  got  to  -  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Gene,  for  some  reason  I  can't  put        PLSS  toward 
you. 

CDR-LM     No,  you  can't.    Just  face  front,  if  you  can,  and 
move  as  far  forward  as  you  can. 

LMP-LM      Well,  if  I  get  my  -  I 'm  going  to  have  to  go  all 
the  way  around,  I  guess. 


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CDR-LM     Well,  just  - 

LMP-LM     Look,  I've  got  to  get  the  PLSS  against  the  circuit 
breaker  - 

CDR-LM     Wait.    I've  got  you  just  where  I  want  you.  Now 
stay  right  there,  and  shift  your  weight  as  far 
to  the  right  as  you  can. 

06  01  30  hQ    CDR-LM     Okay,  it's  AUTO  -  - 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

06  01  30  50    CDR-LM    and  it's  -  and  it's  locked.  Okay? 

LMP-LM      All  rigjit. 

CDR-LM      Now,  CABIN  REPRESS  -  AUTO.     Can't  get  it.  I'll 
have  to  turn  left ,  here . 

LMP-LM  Hioh? 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Let  me  turn  left. 

LMP-LM  No,  I  can  get  it. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     CABIN  REPRESS,  AUTO. 

06  01  31  12    LMP-LM  AUTO. 

CDR-LM  And  at  l6,  CABIN  REPRESS  breaker,  CLOSED. 

06  01  31  l6    LMP-LM  CLOSED. 

06  01  31  18    CDR-LM  MASTER  ALARM  and  CABIN  warning  lights.  Cabin's 

coming  up,  Bob,  0.5. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-LM      I've  still  got  15  percent  oxygen, 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Cabin  pressure's  increasing  -  go  PRESSLTIE 
REGs  A  and  B,  CABIN. 

06  01  31  hh    LMP-LM      A  CABIN. 


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CDR-LM     Okay.    And  you  PLSS  0^  OFF  at  cabin  greater  2.5. 

It's  there  now.    And  you're  probably  getting 
talked  to. 

06  01  32  05    CDR-LM     Mine's  OFF. 

06  01  32  06    LMP-LM     Mine's  OFF. 

06  01  32  08    CDR-LM     Okay,  cabin's  up  to  3.5,  cabin's  up  to  It.O. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    Next  thing.  Jack,  you  can  start  verifying 
yovo'  white  dots  are  out. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     And  you  can  tise  your  PURGE  valve  to  depress  ,  if 
you  have  to. 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  don't  think  I  have  to.    Okay;  white  dots. 


CDR-LM 


Wait  a  minute.    White  dot's  plus  for  you,  EVA  decals, 


LMP-LM     Okay,  I'm  good  here,  here,  here. 

06  01  32  5h    CC  And,  17,  congratulations.     That  was  two  EVAs 

and  a  half. 


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Tape  98A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  01  33  03    CDR-LM      Thank  you,  Robert,  but  until  I  get  my  helmet  and 

gloves  off,  I  won't  say  anything.    Okay,  Jack. 
On  16,  ECS  SUIT  FAN  2,  CLOSED. 

06  01  33  10    LMP-LM  CLOSED. 

Cm-m      SUIT  FAN  DELTA-P,  CLOSED. 
06  01  33  13    LMP-LM  CLOSED. 

06  01  33  Ik    CDR-LM      Okay.    MASTER  ALARM  just  came  on.    Okay.    And  the 

HEATERS,  MESA,  OPEN.     You  can  OPEN  your  MESA 
HEATERS.    We're  getting  a  MASTER  ALARM,  Houston. 
I  don't  know  why. 

LMP-LM      I  think  that's  the   

CDR-LM      You  did  get  SUIT  FAN  number  2? 

06  01  33  33    LMP-LM      -  -  got  the  SUIT  -  SUIT  PAN  DELTA-P 

CDR-LM      Okay.    You've  got  SUIT  FAN  number  2  and  me  -  and 
DELTA-P,  Okay.   

06  01  33  39    LMP-LM      MESA  is  OPEN. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    ECS  cau  -  That's  why  it  came  on.  ECS 

CAUTION  WATER  SEP  light  -  component  light  should 
go  out  after  that  fan  comes  up.    You  can  doff 
your  glove. 

CC  Roger.    We  think  that's  what  happened. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM     Well,  I  never  thought  I'd  wear  my  EV  cover  gloves 
through  two  EVAs. 


LMP-LM 


Oh,  I  forgot  all  about  them. 


Tape  98A/2 


CDR-LM 

LMP-U.1 
CC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 


CDR-LM      Ko    I  didn't      I  thought  about  taking  them  off 

LI^-Lf^     Yes,  I  think  it's  a  good  idea. 

^Lvef  "^i^^  -  t^ese  cover 

^Zll  ^  ^^-^  it's  not  ly 

I  might  consider  taking  them  off  tomorrow. 

Roger,  17.    You  talking  about  your  cover  gloves? 

Yes.    We're  still  wearing  them.  Bob.    And  I 
swore  I'd  take  them  off  after  the  drill,  but  I 
used  a  bit  of  real-time  common  sense. 

Okay. 

Okay.     Gloves  are  off.    LMP's  gloves  are  off. 
Ifeed  some  help? 

CDR-LM      ...  Yes.     I  think  you  just  about  -  - 

LMP-LM      No,  you  went  the  other  way. 

CDR-LM      Did  I  go  the  wrong  way?    Yes,  I  did. 

LMP-LM  What's  wrong  with  that  one? 

CDR-LM  I  don't  know. 

n^IP-LM  Shouldn't  have  done  that. 

CDR-LM  Hey  -  you  -  Let  me  get  this. 

CDR-LM  }fy  hand! 

LMP-LM  Yes,  I'm  sorry. 


CDR-LM 


I 


[■ape  98A/3 


CDR-LM      Ought  to  get  this  one. 


WSP-m      I'll  take  that  off,     (Laughter)    Hold  this  thing. 
Okay.    Let  me  try  that  one,  nov. 

CDR-LM      It  wants  to  go. 

LMP-LM  Let  me  try  that.  Yes,  that  one  ...  off.  Got  it? 
CDR-LM      Yes . 

LMP-m      It's  usually  easier  when  you  do  it  yourself.  The 
angle ' s  wrong . 

CDR-LM      Oh,  hoy.    It's  starting  to  get  a  little  stiff. 

Oh,  they  came  off.  Now,  they  came  off.  Oh,  ho, 
ho,  ho.  Okay.  Doff  helmets,  with  visors.  Here 
I'll  get  yours  for  you.     Turn  my  way,  if  you  can. 

LMP-Ui     Yes.    Do  the  -  I  know  how  you  feel. 

CDR-LM      I  don't  know  how  they're  so  wet.     I  don't  know 
whether  it's  -  they're  Just  soaking  wet. 

CDR-LM      Everything  is  just  twice  as  hard. 

OIP-LM     How  comes  the  old  hay  fever,  again.    That  went  up 
and  that  went  down. 

CDR-LM     Stow  in  BRA.    Let's  get  mine  off  though. 

LMP-IW      . . .  now  that  these  things  are  off . 

CDR-m      Oh,  man.    Does  that  smell,  doesn't  it?    You  sure 
can  pick  that  up. 

LMP-IM      Okay.     You  got  yours? 

CDR-m      I've  got  mine. 

06  01  38  3h    CDR-LM      Okay,  Boh.     Now  (laughter)  helmets  and  gloves  are 

off. 


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LMP-LM  Pressure  looks  good,  still. 

06  01  39  02    CDR-LM  Hello,  Houston.    Do  you  read? 

CC  Roger,  17 .     Read  you  loud  and  clear.  Challenger. 

CDR-LM  Very  good,  Robert.     The  helmets  and  gloves  are  off. 

CC  Absolutely  outstanding  crew,  there. 

CDR-M  Why  don't  you  go  home  and  get  some  sleep.  Bob? 

CC  Absolutely  outstanding.     I  can't  say  more  than 

that.    And  I  mean  it  from  the  bottom  of  my  heart 
or  the  bottom  of  my  soul  or  something ,  my 
conscience. 

LMP-LM     Thank  you.  Bob.    Well,  it's  all  ours. 
CDR-LM     Bob,  it's  all  your  good  training  and  help  -  - 
06  01  39  3h    CC  777  plus  37,  from  3.5  to  3.5. 

LMP-LM      As  mission  scientists,  you're  totally  responsible. 

And  the  backup  crew  says  that  you  are  even  better 
than  outstajiding. 


CC 


LMP-LM      Remember,  it's  in  your  contract  (laughter).  Well 
thank  you.    We  enjoyed  it.  ' 

Hey,  I'll  turn  you  over  to  Little  Joe,  here,  while 
I  go  talk  to  some  people. 


CC 


LMP-LM      Thanks  again.  Bob.  We   

CC  We've  got  a  9  ajid  1/2  hour  EVA  scheduled  for  you 

tomorrow.  We're  planning  to  spend  2  and  1/2  hours 
extra  over  there  at  station  k. 

CDR-LM      (Laughter)  I  hope  those  gloves  that  you've  got 
packed  in  the  back  have  got  something  in  them. 
(Laughter)  Oh,  let's  read  the  checklist.     See  if 
we  can  go  to  bed  on  time  tonight. 


Tape  98A/5 


LMP-LM      Oh,  man. 


CC 


Okay.    That  might  he  a  change. 


LMP-KM      I  feel  better  than  I  did  last  night ,  as  a  matter 
of  fact. 

CDR-LM      Do  you? 

I'm  tvirning  you  over  -  I'm  going  to  turn  you  over 
to  Joe. 

IMP-LM     That  didn't  do  very  much  good. 
CC  See  you  gviys  tomorrow. 

CDE-LM     Okay.    Verify  safety  on  dump  valve.  Yes. 
LMP-LM     Okay,  Bob.    Get  some  sleep,  huh? 
CDR-LM      Yes,  I  verified  them  both. 
LMP-U4      Sorry  to  be  touchy,  occasionally. 
CDR-LM      DESCMT  WATER  valve,  OPEN. 
06  01  1+0  51    LMP-LM      Okay.    WATER  valve's  OPEN. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    Then  you  can  take  your  purge  valve  off. 


CDR-LM 


There's  a  little  diist  in  that  tonight.  Little 
stiffer.     ...  again.    Remove  purge  valves,  stow 
in  piorse.    Disconnect  OPS  hoses. 


LMP-LM      Oh,  man.    That  is  dusty. 


CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 


Yes,  let's  -  let  me  disconnect  yours;  you 
disconnect  mine.     It's  easier  with  the  -  the  - 

I  think  I  can  get  -  What  did  you  say? 


CDR-LM    OPS  hoses, 


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LMP-LM      Oh,  yes.    Or  whatever  it  said. 
CDR-IM      Yes . 

LMP-m      Disconnect  -  disconnect  OPS  hose.     Is  that  what 
it  said? 

CDR-LM      Yes . 

CDR-M     Man  -  maneuver  my  fingers  in  here  a  little  bit 
better. 


IMP-M 


They  are  all  showing  a  little  bit  ...  stickiness. 
Mine  were  in  this  in  pairs. 


CDR-M      (Laughter)    Well,  just  everything's,  you  know, 
harder  to  fit. 

06  01  k2  01    IMP-IM  Okay.     Ihere,  you're  disconnected. 

CDR-M  PGA  diverter  valve,  horizontal. 

06  01  k2  05    LMP-m  Okay.  Horizontal. 

CDR-m  And  SUIT  ISOL,  both  to  SUIT  FLOW. 

IMP-m  All  right  -  - 

CDR-LM  We  don't  have  the  IM  hoses  on.    So  don't  -  Put 
mine  to  SUIT  FLOW  to  get  some  air  in  here. 

LMP-M  Yes.     ...  in  the  dust. 

06  01  k2  27    CDR-m  PLSS  pump,  off,  and  fan,  off. 

MP-M  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Man,  that's  hot.     Feel  that. 

MP-M  Out  in  the  Sun. 

CDR-M  Yes . 

06  01  1+2  llO    LMP-M  Pump's  off.     Fan's  off. 


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CDR-LM 
IMP-m 

mp-m 

CDR-LM 
mP-LM 
CDR-LM 
IMP-m 
CDR-m 

CDR-LM 

mp-m 
cm-m 

06  01  1+3  26.  CDR-IM 

CC 

CDR-M 
CC 

06  01  1*3  h3  cm-m 

CC 

IMP-IM 
CDR-IM 

06  01  hi  k2  IMP-m 
CC 


Okay.    Oh  -  Disconnect  PLSS  H^O  from  PGA.  Okay. 

And  connect  IM  water.    IlLat's  what  we  want. 

. . .  the  . . .  and  . . .  flags . 

Yes,  and  IM  water  -  water  hose,  here. 

I'm  sorry  that's  so  complex,  there. 

Oh,  that's  perfectly  fine. 

But  it  was  easier  to  start. 

It  had  to  he.  Smells  like  someone's  been  firing 
a  carhine  in  here. 

I'm  just  standing  here  pushing  that  - 

•  «  * 

Hot  breaker  -  mien  you  get  it. 

Hey,  little  Joe?    Are  you  there? 

17,  this  is  Houston.  And   

Little  Joe,  are  you  there? 

Roger.    How  do  you  read  Houston?  Over. 

Joe,  we're  reading  you  loud  and  clear.    We're  - 
the  left-hand  colimin  and  we're  both  going  PLSS 
mode  to  0  and  we'll  be  off  the  air  for  a  skosh. 

Roger,  Geno.  I've  been  following  you  real  close, 
and  you  two  are  mighty  smooth.  Boy,  was  that  nic 
today. 

. . .  feel  how  hot  that  is . 

Yes,  the  whole  thing. 

Okay,  Joe.     mP's  PLSS  is  getting  O^. 

Thank  you. 


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06  01  51  h5    IMP-M  Joe,  0^  is  off. 

CC  Roger. 

06  01  52  57    CDR-IM  Hey,  Joe.     This  is  Gene. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-m  Hey,  Challenger  has  been  holding  at  about  5.5  ever 
since  we  got  in  here.     Are  you  all  happy  with  that? 

CC  Looks  good  to  us,  Geno.    We  have  been  watching  it 

and  everyone  is  happy  down  here. 

CDR-m      Okay.    Well,  this  morning,  when  we  were  getting 

ready    we  saw  it  at  5-5  and  part  of  that  has  been 
at  5.0  all  of  the  time.    Just  so  we  are  not  venting 
anything,  that's  all.  ^ 

CC  Geno,  we  hear  you  on  that  and  we'll  -  we'll  be 

watching  it. 

06  01  5k  16    CDR-m      Joe.  we're  about  2  minutes  into  the  CDR's  0 

charge .  2 

CC  Thank  you. 

06  01  55  h8    IMP-m      Joe.  IMP  has  96  percent  on  his  gage. 

CC  Thank  you.  Jack.    We  copy  that. 

06  01  56  52    CC  Geno,  with  regard  to  your  observation  made  to  us 

a  few  monents  ago,  I  guess  we  will  ask  for  the 
CAEIH  RETlffiR  to  the  AUTO  position  and  your  SUIT 
DIVERTER  valve  to  CABIN,  please.     We  are  about 
0.2  of  a  psi  from  CABIN  RELIEF.  Over- 

CDR-LM  Okay,  we're  getting  that  now. 

06  01  57  57    CDR-m  Joe,  CDR  is  reading  9h  percent  on  the  0^  charge. 

CC  Thank  you. 

06  02  Oil  1+7    MP-m  Okay,  Joe.     MP's  OPS  pressure  is  6300. 


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CC  Thank  you. 

06  02  07  57    CDR-m      Commander's  OPS  pressure  is  6IOO. 

CC  Copy,  6IOQ. 

06  02  09  02    MP-IM      Say,  Joe,  our  cabin  pressure  is  rising  even 

higher,  now.    About  5.7. 

CC  We  copy  that. 

IMP-IM      Joe,  Joe,  we  had  the  ccxnmander's  hoses  stowed,  but 
in  SUIT  FLOW.     That  might  have  done  it.     Is  that 
right? 


CC 


Sounds  very  plausible.  Jack.  We'll  look  at  it  a 
little  more  here. 


06  02  13  Ik    CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston.     Requesting  you  move 

demand  REGs  A  and  B  to  EGRESS,  please, 

06  02  13  28    mP-m      They're  EGRESS. 
CC  Okay. 

CC  17,  Houston.    We  noted  down  here  that  your  SUIT 

DIVERTERS  went  to  EGRESS  and  we  want  the  demand 
REGs  to  the  EGRESS  position,  please. 

IMP-M      That's  right,  but  the  SUIT  GAS  DIVERTER  extends 
when  you  go  to  EGRESS. 

CC  You're  right,  again. 

06  02  17  Oh    IMP-IM      Houston,  do  you  figure  we're  relieving? 

CC  Jack,  we  don't  think  so.     It  looks  like  you're 

pretty  steady  at  between  5.5  and  5,6.  We're 
watching  it  very  closely,  however. 

mP-m      Okay,  you  know  when  we  had  that  problem  this 

morning,  I  hope  I  didn't  -  the  backflow  did  not 
h\irt  something  when  I  had  the  MP's  hoses  stowed 
in  the  ISOL  valve  and  SUIT  FLOW. 


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CC  Jack,  just  for  your  infoimation,  we  saw  about  the 

same  thing  last  night.     The  only  difference  was 
the  pressure  didn't  climb  quite  so  high.    So,  we 
think  whatever  it  is,  it  really  doesn't  involve 
the  problem  -  small  problem  you  had  this  morning. 

LMP-IM   ■  Okay,  Joe. 

06  02  19  35    CDR-m      Okay,  Joe.     We  got  the  corrMmxder's  PLSS  back  in 

the  rechajrge  station.    We  got  a  new  batteiy  in  it 
odd  numbers  and  a  new  -  and  a  new  canister  in  it  ' 
and  we  are  working  on  the  M  -  on  Jack's  right 
now. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     Sounds  good. 

06  02  22  kh    CC  17,  Houston. 

IMP-LM      Go  ahead,  Joe. 

CC  We  are  still  watching  your  cabin  pressure  down 

mcQ'^-^°'^^  ^""^  ^^^'^^  please,  if  the 

FLBS  fill  valve  is  securely  closed? 

IMP-IM     Yes,  it  was  closed. 

CC  Okay. 

mP-M      Joe,  do  you  want  me  to  check  out  the  regulator? 
CC  Stand  by. 

06  02  23  k9    JMP-m      Houston,  Challenger.    Do  you  want  me  to  check  the  - 

Okay.     ED  BATs  are  37.2. 

CC  Copy  that. 

06  02  2k  00    IMP-m      PCM's  going  HIGH. 

LMP-LM      Let  me  know  when  you're  ready  for  the  battery 
management . 

CC  Roger. 


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06  02  25  31    CC  IT,  Houston.    Stand       on  the  battery  manfsgement 

for  a  few  minutes,  please.    And,  in  the  meantime, 
could  you  checdt  the  low  pressiore  PLSS  fill  valve 
closed,  please?    Over.  ' 

mP-m     Joe,  I  checked  that.    It*s  closed. 

CC  Thank  you. 

CDR-LM      Houston,  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

UDE-m      Yes,  your  -  does  you  telemetry  and  our  gage  come 
off  the  same  telemetry  on  that?    Same  transducer? 

CC  That's  affirm.     It  does.     And,  Challenger,  we've 

got  a  ccnmiTmi cations  problem  at  one  of  the  sites 
and  are  going  to  ask  you  to  go  to  panel  12  and 
turn  the  POWER  AMPLIFIER  to  PRIMARY,  please. 

06  02  28  27    mP-m      Okay,  it's  PRIMARY. 


CC 


And,  Challenger,  we're  ready  for  battery  manage- 
ment ,  at  your  convenience . 


IMP-IM      Okay,  stand  by. 
06  02  32  03    CDR-M      Hey,  Joe. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


CDR-m      Okay,  this  is  Geno.     I  just  dug  a  rock  out  of  my 
pocket.    You  -  no  one  back  there  probably 
remembers,  but  when  we  were  at  Shorty,  fumbling 
around,  trying  to  get  everything  done,  I  said 
there  was  a  piece  of  very  shiny  black  glasslike- 
looking  material  that  reminded  me  of  -  of  obsidian. 
Well,  it's  not.     It  looks  like  a  veiy  fine-grained' 
gray  rock.     But,  it's  a  fractured  piece  and  it 
looks  like  it  -  I've  picked  up  fractures  of  about 
three  or  four  vesicle  faces  on  it.     The  vesicle 
faces  are  veiy  shiny  and  that's  what  reflected 
and  caught  my  eye.     I  think  the  unique  part  about 
it  is  -  Jack  may  want  to  tell  you  something  else 


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about  it  -  the  unique  part  atout  it  is  -  I  picked 
It  up  Shorty.    Undocumented,  halfway  between  the 
Rover  and  where  we  were  sampling  that  orange 
stuff.    And  it  will  be  in  bag  12  Echo. 

CC             Okay,  Geno.     Copy,  12  Echo.     And,  I  was  assured 
by  the  folks  here  when  I  came  in   

CD-R-m      That'll  go  in  it. 

CC  -  _  that  -  that  you  did  indeed  have  shiny  sample 

of  some  kind  in  your  pocket  and  would  probably 
find  it  later  on.     So,  we  called  that  one.  Could 
you  turn  OFF  the  POWER  AMPLIFIER  -  - 


CDR-m 


Okay,  we'll  put  in  it  in  SCB-8. 


CC  Okay,  go  ahead. 

06  02  33  3k    CDR-IM      Okay,  it's  off  and  we  will  put  that  rock  in  that 

sample  bag  and  put  in  SCB-8, 


iMP-m 


CC 


CDR-IM 


Joe,  this  -  rock  looks  very  much  like  12008,  12008. 
It  s  a  fine-grained,  coarsely  -  very  coarsely 
vesicular  gray  rock  -  probably  basaltic. 

Okay,  Jack.     Real  fine.    We'll  -  want  LOW  BIT  RATE 
POWER  AMPLIFIER,  OFF,  and  LOW  BIT  RATE  and  we  can  ' 
maybe  label  that  one  17OO8.    How  does  that  sound? 

No,  you  got  to  label  Gene-rock.     I  was  going  to 
tell  you  those  other  things,  but  I  thought  I'd 
let  Jack. 


CC  Okay,  thank  you. 


IMP-m      The  vesicles,  if  I  may  project  the  size  of  them, 

probably  were  up  to  U  or  5  centimeters  in  diameter. 
They  re  irregular  in  shape,  but  they're  clearly 
vesicles  and  it  looks  like  they  are  lined  with 
either  glass  or  veiy  fine-grained  crystals. 
They're  veiy  shiny. 


CC 


Roger. 


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CDR-IM      And  for  our  next  act  - 

06  02  35  h8    CC  Jack,  we're  going  to  ask  for  your  next  act  that 

you  check  for  us  both  PLSS  valves  OFF  and  "both 
OPS  valves  OFF.  Over. 

06  02  36  51    IWP-LM     Joe,  they're  both  verified  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We  understand  that  all  four  valves 

are  verified  OFF. 

IMP- DM      That's  affirm,  Joe. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you.     I'm  sure  that  you  realize  that 

we're  still  showing  that  pressure  increasing  very, 
very  slowly  and  are  pretty  well  convinced  that 
nothing  is  leaking  in  frcm  the  outside.     So,  we 
are  looking  around  on  the  inside  here, 

CDR-m     Joe,  is  our  oxygen  consumption  abnormal  at  this 
point? 


CC 


No,  not  al  all,  Geno.    Everything  looks  pretty 
normal,  except  this  -  this  slow  creep  in  the  cabin 
pressure. 


IMP-M     Well,  the  -  I  guess  the  possibility  is  a  creeping 
RiG  or  a  transducer,  is  that  right? 

CC  Yes,  either  that  or  it  may  be  we're  just  watching 

seme  of  the  effects  of  the  thermal  shock  that  your 
tanks  took  when  -  frcm  the  repress  itself.  We're 
not  worried  about  it  at  all,  but  we  are  still 
watching  it. 

IMP-IM      Joe,  you  might  make  a  note  that  my  two  SEP  area 
samples  went  into  bag  8  also. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    That's  noted. 

CDR-IM  Joe,  got  seme  numbers,  if  you'd  like  them? 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-rW  SRC  is  ltl.5.     Bag  6  is  2lt,  bag  8  is  35. 


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CC  Copy,  kl.5  and  2k  in  tag  6;  35  for  bag  8. 

CDR-IM  That's  it. 

CDR-m  Joe,  how  many  samples  did  we  get  today? 

CC  Stand  by. 


CDR-LM 

CC 
CC 

CDR-IM 

CC 


Don't  start  a  big  investigation.     I  was  just 
curious . 

Let  me  ask  around.  Gene.    We  will  see  in  a  minute, 

17,  we  think  you  have        samples  from  this  EVA 
plus  some  cores.  ' 

Thank  you,  Joe.     Just  curious. 
That's  not  half  bad. 


06  02  1.1  56    CDR-m     And,  Joe,  we're  on  5-5  and  I  am  going  to  start 

doffing . 


CC 


Okay,  Geno.     Copy  5-5,  and  before  you  get  started 
there,  would  you  put  both  demand  REGs  to  CLOSED, 
please?    As  we  continue  to  watch  this  pressure.' 

06  02  U2  19    CDR-IM      Okay,  Joe.     Demand  REG  A,  going  CLOSED.  Demand 

REG  B  going  CLOSED. 


CC 


Thank  you.     And  we  verify  them  both  CLOSED. 


06  02  U7  5 It    CC  17,  this  Is  Houston.     We'd  like  SUIT  DIVERTER 

back  to  CABIN,  please? 

06  02        Qlt    CDR-LM  CABIN. 

CC  Okay. 

06  02  51  h6    CC  Gene  and  Jack,  you'll  be  interested  to  hear  that 

the  cabin  PRES  is  dropping  down,  very  slowly  now. 
bo,  we  think  we  have  a  tiny  leak  in  one  of  the 
cabin  regulators,  one  of  the  demand  regulators 
and  we'll  run  a  check  after  you  get  squared  away 
there  a  little  better. 


Tape  98A/I5 


CDR-m 

06  02  52  26  CC 


OkE^jr,  Joe.  We'll  tie  at  your  beck  and  call. 
I'll  only  smile  at  that. 

EHD  OF  TAPE 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

06  03  0?  51    CDR-LM      Hooiston,  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

06  03  08  00    CDR-LM     Joe,  we're  going  to  air  out  the  suits.  We're 

going  to  go  to  SUIT  FLOW  on  the  Commander's  ISOL 
valve  now. 

CC  All  righty. 

CDR-LM     Say  again. 

CC  That  sounds  good. 

06  03  IT  02    LMP-LM     Joe,  I  guess  you  guys  are  tired  of  looking  at  my 

heart  beat.     So,  I'm  gonna  turn  the  BIOMED  off 
as  I  get  out  of  my  suit. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

06  03  17  h9    CDR-LM     Hey,  Joe.     This  is  Geno.    How  do  you  read  me? 

CC  Geno,  you're  5  hy. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  we're  going  to  get  Jack  out  of  his  suit. 
I'll  be  -  I'll  he  monitor. 


CC 


Roger.    From  the  way  the  two  of  you  worked  today, 
I'd  think  you  co-old  Just  about  turn  him  upside 
down  and  pour  him  out . 


CDR-LM     Yes,  if  he'd  fit  through  that  little  hole  in  the 
end  of  his  wrist. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  the  day  they  can  pour  me  out  of  anything, 
they'll  call  me  slim.     Talk  to  you  later. 

CC  Okay.    Among  other  things. 

CDR-LM     Remember  those  nice  white  suits? 

CC  The  Clean  Room  will  never  be  the  same  again. 


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CDR-LM     You'd  never  Taelieve  it. 

06  03  38  3h    CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston. 

CDR-LM      Go  ahead,  Houston.     Challenger  here. 

CC  Geno,  we're  going  to  start  to  investigate  which 

of  your  demand  regulators  is  leaking  and  we're 
going  to  ask  you  to  put  DEMAND  REG  Alfa  to  GABIK 
now.    And,  as  we  watch  it,  please  do  not  make  any 
urine  dumps.  Over. 

06  0  3  39  03    CDR-IM     Okay,  we  will  not  make  any  urine  dumps  and  we'll 

go^to  CABIN  now.     Okay,  Alfa's  in  CABIN.  And 
we'll  be  ready  for  your  dehriefing  here  in  about 
5  minutes. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.    And,  it's  going  to  be  a  short  one. 

06  03  1^7  17    LMP-LM     Okay,  Houston.    We're  going  DOWNVOICE  BACKUP. 
CC  Stand  by  on  that. 

IM>-LM     And  okay,  we  are  ready  for  your  EVA-2  debriefing. 

CC  Okay,  17.    To  begin  with,  we  want  you  to  delete 

that  step  going  to  DOWNVOICE  BACKUP.    And  I've 
got  a  surface  block  data  to  read  up  to  you.  A 
few  minor  changes  in  your  Lunar  Surface  Checklist. 
And  a  couple  of  very  quick  questions  for  the  de- 
briefing when  you're  ready.  Over. 

LMP-LM     Go  ahead,  in  the  stated  order. 

CC  Roger.    Moving  right  along  now  to  the  surface 

block  data.     Lift-off  time,  T-33,  152  plus  30  plus 
01;  T-34,  15i+  plus  28  plus  33;  T-35,  156  plus  27 
plus  05;  T-36,  158  plus  25  plus  37;  T-37.  l60  plus 
2h  plus  09-  Over. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  Joe.    Starting  with  33.  152:30:01,15^:28:33 
156:27:05,  158:25:37,  l60:2U:09.    And  what's  our 
present  rev? 


CC 


Rev  32,  Jack. 


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CDR-LM      Hey,  Joe,  for  pantry  purposes,  what  day  is  this? 

CC  We've  checked  around  the  room  here  and  the  consen- 

sus is  that  it's  Wednesday  morning.  Over. 

CDR-M      Oh,  okay.    I  really  wanted  to  know  whether  it  was 
irridated  [sic]  ham  or  frankfurter  morning,  cuad 
I  guess  we  can  work  that  out. 

CC  Eoger,  Gene.    Apparently,  the  Surgeon  is  happy 

with  either  of  those  days.    And  we  want  you  to 
turn  to  -  rigjit  now,  to  5-7  in  the  checklist  and 
perform  that  -  one  particular  step  at  150  hours, 
which  will  prevent  the  computer  clock  from  over- 
flowing.    And  that's  the  "PROCEED,  VERB  37  ENTER, 
06  ENTER,  PROCEED"  step.    We'll  stand  "by  for  that. 
Give  us  a  mark  as  you  start  it.  Over. 

06  03  51  3h    CDR-LM     Okay,  we're  starting. 

06  03  51  36    CDR-LM      PRO.     PROCEED,  VERB  37  ENTER  -  VERB  30  - 

06  03  52  00    CDR-M      Okay,  Joe.    You  don't  want  me  to  go  on  the  VERB  90 

-  You're  not  going  to  give  us  an  update,  hioh? 

06  03  52  07    CC  No  update  required.     That  was  just  to  prevent  an 

overflow.    And  then  I'm  ready  for  the  quick 
changes  in  the  Lunar  Siarface  Checklist  when  you 
are . 

06  03  52  h3    LMP-LM     Okay,  Joe,  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    Begin  "by  putting  the  demand  REG  Bravo  to 

CABIN  position  and  leave  the  demand  REG  Alfa  in 
the  -  in  the  CABIN  position  where  it  now  is.  And 
I'll  continue  on  with  the  changes  in  the  checklist 
here.     Page  5-6,  left-hand  side,  where  it  reads 
"Configure  STB."    The  -  the  fourth  line  down  that 
starts  out  "Four  B&W  mags,"  they  should  read, 
"Hotel,  India,  Juliet,  and  Romeo  in  LCG  compart- 
ment."   Then  going  up  to  the  right-hand  side  under 
"Stow  in  ETB,"  change  the  line  "One  B&W  mag  Romeo" 
to  read  "One  B&W  mag  Kilo."  Over. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  Joe.     I  changed  the  mags  in  the  "Empty"  from 
Kilo  to  Romeo  and  the  mag  in  "Stow"  from  Romeo  to 
Kilo. 


Tape  99A/1+ 


CC  Okay,  that  sounds  like  the  thing  to  do.    And  a 

note  on  your  demand  regulators.     We're  showing 
that  the  demand  regulator  Alfa  is  -  has  good  in- 
tegrity and  ve're  now  in  the  process  of  checking 
the  demand  regulator  Bravo.     I've  got  a  couple 
of  fairly  quick  questions  here  when  you're  ready 
for  those. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  Joe.    Go  ahead  with  your  questions,  and  in- 
tegrity is  certainly  what  we  need  around  here, 
right? 

CC  Okay.    Jack,  a  question  for  you  to  begin  with.  Is 

your  gold  visor  sticking  halfway  down?  Apparent- 
ly, that's  "based  on  a  discussion  earlier.  Over. 

CDR-LM     Yes.    Apparently  his  visor  is  sticking. 

CDR-LM     Which  one?    The  gold  visor?    No,  he  said  his  sun- 
shade is  sticking  halfway  down,  hut  his  gold 
visor's  not. 

CC  Okay,  that  answers  the  question.    We  couldn't  tell 

from  the  TV  whether  it  was  the  visor  or  the  sun- 
shade.   That's  fine.     We  also  heard  some  discus- 
sion about  possible  wear  in  the  seats  of  the  suits 
when  you  were  dusting  each  other  off.    We  want  to 
know  if  you  could  see  the  -  any  hint  of  the  alu- 
minum layers  showing  through  in  the  suits.  Over. 

CDR-LM     No,  Joe.     Not  to  worry.     It's  just  a  few  scars  on 
the  PLSS  thermal  blanket  in  back  where  you  prob- 
ably rub  the  seat  when  you  get  in.    Nothing  on  the 
suits. 


CC  Okay,  Geno,     Now  two  real  quick  geology  questions 

that  will  help  us  do  the  planning  for  your  EVA 
tomorrow.    The  first  one  has  to  do  with  station  h. 
And  you  called  out  some  material  on  the  rim  there  - 
the  crater  at  station  h  -  which  looked  like  bedded 
spatter.    And  we're  wondering  if  that  resembled 
things  that  -  that  you'd  seen  in  Hawaii?  Over. 

03  57  03    LMP-LM     Hey,  Joe,  I  think  they  misheard.     I  think  I  may 

have  said  shattered  and  you  might  of  said  -  thought 


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spattered.    No,  I  didn't  -  neither  one  of  us  in- 
tended to  leave  that  inrpression.    The  rocX  -  the 
big  rock  we  sampled  was  -  looked  like  shattered  - 
intensely  shattered  gabbro,  such  as  we've  had 
around  the  LM.    The  rocks,  probably  more  signifi- 
cantly, that  Gene  -  one  of  which  Gene  picked  up 
with  the  fine-grained  vesicular  basalt  -  co".^  oely 
vesicular  basalts.    And  we  didn't  have  any  time  to 
really  examine  the  interrelationships  of  those 
rock  types  there,  but  those  were  the  two  fragment 
types  we  saw. 


CC  Okay,  Jack.     That's  q_uite  clear  to  us  now.  Also 

a  question  about  station  k  -  - 

LMP-LM     Joe  -  Joe. 

CC  Okay,  go  ahead, 

06  03  58  Ok    LMP-LM     The  bottom  of  that  crater,  now,  had  material  that 

was  extremely  disorganized  in  its  aspect  and, 
really,  we  didn't  have  time  to  examine  it  in  de- 
tail in  order  to  decide  why  it  was  disorganized. 
It  did  not  necessarily  look  like  the  boulder  that 
we  saE5)led  at  the  rim. 


CC  Okay,  Jack.    Understand  that-    A  question  about 

the  boulder  you  sampled  at  the  rim.    Would  you 
con5)are  the  basalt  in  this  boulder  to  -  which  I  - 
you  may  have  called  a  gabbro,  I'm  not  sure  -  in 
any  case  the  basalt  -  to  samples  which  you  col- 
lected at  Camelot  and  at  ALSEP.  Over. 

LMP-LM     Well,  my  impression  was  that  they  were  the  same 
rock  types . 

CC  Okay,  that's  our  in^iression,  too.     Thank  you. 

That's  -  that's  it  for  us  on  the  questions.  And 
for  information,  we're  showing  your  cabin  pressure 
is  holding  fairly  steady  even  with  both  those 
demand  regs  on. 


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CDR-LM  Okay.  Keep  watching  it  for  us,  would  you,  and 
let  us  know.  I  expect  one  of  them  is  probably 
leaking  pretty  slow. 

CC  You  have  no  -  no  worry  about  that.  Gene.  We're 

locking  at  it  real  close. 

CDR-LM     How's  -  how's  America  looking  to  you? 


CC 


It  is  just  as  clean  as  a  whistle. 


CDR-LM      It  may  not  be  when  we  get  back  there.  Judging  from 
the  looks  -  looks  of  us.    That's  good  to  hear 
though.    It's  a  good  bird.    So  is  this  one. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  is  there  any  -  You  got  any  more  debriefing 
questions? 

CC  Negative,  Jack.    And  we're  interested  that  you 

move  right  along  so  we  can  get  you  -  get  you 
turned  in  there  and  get  some  rest. 

IWP-LM     We're  moving.    We're  eating  now,  and  we're  -  we're 
-  we  feel  the  same  way,  I  think. 

Troops,  enjoy  your  meal  there.    And  at  your  con- 
venience, you  can  go  ahead  with  the  feedwater  re- 
charge.   We  want  you  to  hold  off  on'  the  oxygen 
recharge  until  we  watch  these  regs  for  about 
another  10  minutes.    And  give  us  a  mark  if  you  do 
start  the  water  recharge,  please.  Over. 


CC 


06  Olt  01  36    CDR-LM  Okay. 


CC  And  if  there  are  any  ways  we  can  cut  corners  on 

the  time  here,  it'll  be  helping  us,  because  we're 
still  looking  at  -  at  being  down  a  couple  of  hours 
nearly. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  Joe.    We're  working  at  it  as  fast  as  we  can. 
Best  place  in  the  world  to  make  it  up  is  tomor- 
row night. 


CC 


Right,  Geno,  and  we  -  actually,  we're  going  to 
pick  up  a  good  one  shortly,  because  we're  coming 


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up  to  a  pad  in  the  time  line .     So ,  as  long  as  we 
don't  waste  too  much  time,  we're  doing  pretty 
well. 


CDR-LM      Okay;  "be  assured  we're  not.     There's  just  a  cer- 
tain amount  of  housekeeping  we  have  to  do.  But, 
very  seriously,  day  after  tomorrow  is  a  ve^-y  short 
day,  and  I  think  we  ought  to  look  at  making  up 
any  time.     I'm  a  hold-faster'  on  sleep  periods  but 
tomorrow  is  the  one  that  I  think  is  flexible. 


CC  Roger.    We  hear  you. 

06  Ok  06  12    IMP-UJl      Hey,  Joe.     This  is  Jack.     We're  eating  here. 

Won't  be  too  long  at  it,  but  if  you've  got  any 
significant  news  or  anything,  why  don't  you  give 
it  to  us? 

CC  Jack,  I  don't  know  if  it's  significant  news,  but 

at  least  I  know  you  will  be  interested.  Both 
your  demand  regs  look  good  now.    We  show  no  evi- 
dence of  a  leak  there  and  it  may  have  been  that 
just  recycling  them  reseated  them  and  solved  what- 
ever problem  we  had.    You  can  go  ahead  with  the 
recharge  on  the  PLSS  and  the  water  recharge  at 

your  convenience.    And  let  me  poll  the  room  here 
for  other  news  items.  Over. 

06  oh  08  21    CDR-LM     Okay,  Joe,  we're  starting  an  0    charge  of  the 

CDR's  PLSS,  10  minutes. 


CC  Okay. 
06  OU  13  29    CC  Challenger,  this  is  Houston. 

LMP-IM      Go  ahead,  Joe. 


CC  Roger.     This  is  a  news  report  to  eat  by.  I'll 

combine  an  orbital  science  report  with  a  sports 
report,  an  unusual  conflaination  here.     I'll  start 
out  with  a  sports  report  on  Monday  night  football, 
which  you  may  not  have  heard  yet.    Joe  Namath 
tried  mightily  to  lead  the  Mew  York  Jets  into  the 


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American  Football  League  playoffs,  but  the  Oakland 
Raiders  grounded  the  Jets  in  a  fourth  quarter  2k 
to  16  "blitz.    Namath  passed  for  more  than  kOO 
yards  bttt,  in  spite  of  it,  Hew  York  scored  only 
one  touchdown.    Moving  along  to  the  successes  of 
Captain  America,  I'll  run  down  different  items  in 
the  SIM  bay  here,  beginning  with  the  UV  spectrom- 
eter.   In  general,  the  data  has  been  excellent. 
We're  getting  indications  that  the  hydrogen  atmos- 
phere of  tlie  Moan  is  much  less  than  expected.  In 
fact,  I  don't  think  we're  detecting  any,  but 
rather  setting  a  limit  on  the  amount  of  hydrogen 
around  the  Moon.    There  was  an  Aerobee  launch  - 
an  attempt  at  an  Aerobee  la\mch  -  from  White  Sands 
on  Monday  to  calibrate  solar  UV  radiation,  but 
this  launch  failed  because  an  instrument  viewing 
port  in  the  rocket  failed  to  open.    A  second 
launch  -  let's  see  -  was  scheduled,  I  think,  for 
today,  and  I  don't  know  whether  that  was  success- 
ful or  not.    I  guess  it'll  be  launched  later 
today.    The  infrared  scanning  radiometer  is  per- 
forming beautifully.    Indications  are  that 
subsolar-point  surface  temperatures  are  higher 
than  we've  detected  from  our  Earth-based  observa- 
tions before.     We're  seeing  many  thermal  anomolles , 
particularly  in  Procellarum  and  in  the  Procellarum 
area  west  of  Copernicus.    And  we're  seeing  also 
a  few  unusual  cold  spots,  which  apparently  are 
indicating  areas  of  very  fine  soil  with  a  few  or 
no  blocks  in  and  on  the  soil.     The  Ivmar  soimder 
data  is  beautiful,  and  the  power  monitor  signals 
we  find  correlate  with  the  sxirface  features.  And 
the  HF  data  indicates  to  us  that  we  are  detecting 
a  variety  of  layers  in  the  mare  areas. 

16  52    LMP-LM     Joe,  this  is  Jack.    Do  you  know  where  specifically 
they're  seeing  the  hot  spots  west  of  Copernicus? 

CC  Jack,  I  don't  have  it  on  the  page  in  front  of  me 

here.    We're  going  to  check  into  it  and  I'll  get 
back  to  you  in  a  second. 

CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    With  regard  to  your  ques- 

tions on  the  hot  spots,  apparently  they've  not  yet 


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indexed  the  -  these  warmer  sources  that  they're 
detecting  to  the  CSM  ephemeris,  and  -  and  so  they 
don't  know  exactly  what  they  correspond  to  as  far 
as  the  surface  features  themselves  go.    So  I 
can't  help  you  on  that  right  now. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  Joe.    Juist  curious. 

06  Ol^  21  ok    CC  And,  Jack,  TELMJ  handed  me  some  nuinbers  which  I 

think  you  will  be  interested  in.     From  the 
EVA-2  EMU  summary,  the  elapsed  EVA  time  was  7  hours 
plus  37  minutes  plus  22  seconds  for  a  new  outdoor 
record  under  international  rules.     The  rest  of 
the  sheet  looks  free  from  problems  in  a  comforting 
way.     Let's  see,  average  metabolic  rates  -  for 
you,  Geno,  855;  and.  Jack,  you're  running  at 
around  920,     And  that,  relative  to  premission 
averages  of  around  850.    And  you  have  a  grand 
total  EVA  time  now  of  ih  hours  k9  minutes  and 
35  seconds. 

06  Ok  22  19    LMP-LM     Very  interesting  numbers,  Joe.    Do  you  have  any 

idea  how  the  metabolic  rate  compared  to  yesterday? 

CC  Good  q^uestion.     Let  me  ask  on  that  one.  Yesterday 

you  were  running  at  10U5  and  IO9O.     So  you're 
down  considerably  from  your  work  rates  of  yester- 
day, which  is  good  news.    Maybe  you're  learning 
how  to  do  it  more  easily  or  something  like  that. 

CDR-LM     Yes,  but  we  spent  a  lot  of  time  riding  today  and 
a  lot  of  time  working  yesterday. 

CC  That's  true.     But  I  guess  that's  not  taken  into 

consideration  of  the  average  here.     It's  certainly 
true.    We  can  ask  for  the  metabolic  rate  of  the 
Rover.    I  bet  that  is  pretty  impressive  for  today. 

CDR-LM      Well,  don't  -  don't  get  me  wrong.     Driving  that 
Rover  is  ...    But  I'll  tell  you,  it  keeps  your 
attention. 

CC  I'm  sure  it  does. 


LMP-LM 


It  keeps  the  passenger's  attention,  too. 


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CC  I'm  sure  it  does.    ¥e  noted  some  comments  when 

you  were  rolling  edong  today  -  and  reading  "between 
the  lines  from  time  to  time. 

06  Ok  23  59    CDR-LM     Actually,  Joe,  for  good  long  spans  on  the  run  up 

to  station  2,  except  when  we  had  to  pick  our  way 
up  the  Hole-in-the-Wall,  I  was  running  ftill  bore 
at  anywheres  from,  I  guess,  what'd  I  say,  10  to 
12  to  15  clicks.    I  didn't  hit  15  going  up  very 
much.    Coming  down  I  did,  but  it's  -  it's  reeilly 
a  "stand  by  for  turn  and  watch  where  you're  going" 
type  of  run.    Because  the  small  craters,  -  of 
course,  are  the  ones  that  can  really  jolt  you. 
But  the  trouble  is,  you  can't  -  you  can  never  see 
■  trtiat's  just  over  the  next  ridge,  and  the  next 
ridge  may  be  20  meters  away,  and  you  just  can't 
see  it  until  you're  there,  and  you  don't  know 
whether  its  a  dish  crater  or  pit  crater. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  that  des  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 

MP-LM     That  description  -  that  description  fits  the 

geology  up  in  there,  because  we  weren't  seeing 
blocky  rimmed  craters  and  otherwise  you  would  have 
been  able  to  tell  more  easily  about  the  old  versus 
new  craters,  which  would  be  the  ones  you  could 
either  go  through  or  not  go  through,  respectively. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM     That's  a  super  machine  to  drive  though,  Joe,  I'll 
tell  you.     If  you  had  enough  time  you  could 
really  learn  to  -  to  take  it  all  the  way.  But 
you  don't  really  do  that,  just  the  second  time 
around. 

CC  Geno,  was  it  spraying  dirt  at  you  today?  Could 

you  -  did  you  notice  that  you  still  missed  the 
real  fender  and  that  the  patch  fender  wasn't  quite 
doing  what  -  what  maybe  it  could? 


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CDR-LM     No,  sir,  I  don't  thinlc  we  missed  it  at  all. 
LMP-LM     Fact  is,  we're  recommending  a  design  change,  Joe. 
CC  That'll  "be  for  next  year's  model. 

06  Ok  26  32    CDR-M      That's  right. 

06  Ok  30  20    LMP-LM     Hey,  Joe.    Is  it  all  right  to  use  the  waste  man- 
agement system? 

CC  Roger.    We're  happy  with  those  demand  regs  now. 

And  you  can  proceed  on  with  that  and  includin'^ 
all  the  -  the  -  the  PLSS  recharges  that  you'll 
need  to  do  as  well. 

06  Ok  33  23    LMP-LM      Joe,  we're  filling  n^r  PISS  with  water  now.  You 

ml^t  check  on  the  water  quantity- 

06  Ok  33  29    CC  Roger.     Thank  you. 


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06  Ok  k3  11    CDR-LM      Joe,  that  should  take  care  of  my  PLSS  for  tonight. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     Thank  you.     Out  of  curiosity,  have 

you  packed,  or  are  you  packing  the  ETB  now? 

CDR-LM      Yes.     Jack's  doing  it  right  now. 

CC  Okay;  we've  got  a  last  minute  change.    We  show 

that  you  -  your  mag  Bravo  is  about  77  frames,  and 
we'd  like  for  you  to  leave  it  in  the  ETB  -  It  is 
already  in  the  ETB  -  and  take  it  out  with  you  to- 
morrow.   We  can  shoot  up  the  remaining  frames  if 
we  run  out  of  film,  otherwise. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  fine.     That  goes  along  with  our  thinking. 

CC  You  know,  apparently  you  made  some  comment  earlier 

In  the  day  about  being  bothered  by  comm  noise 
during  your  egress  from  Challenger.     Did  that  go 
away  right  away,  or  did  it  just  cease  to  bother 
you,  or  what  -  what  was  the  story  on  that? 

CDR-M      I  don't  remember;  so,  it  must  have  gone  away,  be- 
cause the  comm  was  great. 

CC  Okay;  that's  what  we  kind  of  assumed. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  we're  charging  Jack's  PLSS  with  oxygen. 

CC  Sounds  good. 

06  Oil  59  hk    CDR-LM      Houston,  Challenger.     The  0^  is  complete  on  -  0^ 

FILL  is  complete  on  the  LMPs  PLSS,  and  we're  work- 
ing on  the  water. 

CC  Roger. 

06  05  02  19    CC  Challenger,  for  your  information,  we're  coming  up 

on  coram  handover  in  about  a  minute  and  a  half. 


CDR-LM 


Okay. 


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06  05  07  33    CDR-m     Hello,  Houston;  Challenger.     The  LMPs  PLSS  is 

charged. 

CC  We  copy  it. 

CDR-IiM      Joe,  how's  the  weather  got  down  there?     Any  better? 

GC  Geno,  the  weather  Is  better.     We  were  really  socked 

in  yesterday.    That  front's  moved  on  through  the 
Houston  area,  and  it  is  cold  and  clear  tonight,  I 
suspect.    It's  been  a  while  since  we've  been  out, 
but  they  are  calling  for  it  to  go  down  right  near 
freezing. 


CDR-LM  Okay.    Thank  you. 

06  05  36  12    LMP-LM  Hey,  Joe;  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP-LM  They  succeeded  in  leveling  the  gravimeter,  yet? 

CC  Jack,  we'll  check  it,  update  our  information  on 

that,    tfy  understanding  at  the  moment  is  that 
they've  not,  but  -  but  they're  thinking  that  the 
unit's  just  too  cold  and  they're  in  the  process 
of  warming  it  up  by  dianplng  heat  into  it  by  run- 
ning some  of  the  eq^uipment  around  it  and  in  it , 
and  they've  by  no  means  given  up  -  given  up  hope 
for  that  unit. 


LMP-LM     I  figure  that  means  that  ngr  fooling  around  with 
it  didn't  help  Ijhem. 

CC  Apparently,  it  -  it  didn't  do  too  much  for  then, 

but  what  it  did  do  was  convince  them  that  it's 
probably  somehow  locked  up  because  its  tempera- 
ture's not  right  yet.    And  they're  not  worrying 
about  whether  it's  level  or  not  level  now.  They're 
-  they're  confident  that  it's  been  set  up  okay,  and 
now  they're  just  biding  their  time  to  brinp,  that 
temperature  up.     We'll  get  some  more  wordr.  to  you 
sometime  tomorrow  on  it  as  you  make  your  tradi- 
tional visit  to  the  site  again  -  ALSEP  site  a^^ain, 
probably.     How  are  you  coming  along  with  your  sleep 
prep? 


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CDR-LM      We're  just  about  there,  Joe.     We  picked  up  some 
time  somewhere  in  here.    Couldn't  "be  much  more 
than  1  hour  behind. 

CC  Ho,  that's  just  about  right.     You're  looking 

pretty  good  on  that. 

LMP-LM      If  you  get  to  sleep  in  the  next  5  minutes,  you're 
1  hour  behind. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  sir;  we're  -  I'm  putting  iny  hammock  up  now, 
as  a  matter  of  fact . 

LMP-LM      What  are  you  doing  up  so  late? 

CC  Well,  somebody's  got  to  sit  up  and  keep  you  guys 

honest.     I  think  we're  getting  more  sleep  down 
here  than  you  are. 

CDR-LM     Ah  me. 

CC  I  might  add  that  not  only  do  we  have  to  stay  up 

late;  we  have  to  get  up  mighty  early  to  keep  you 
honest,  too. 

LMP-LM     Okay;  you  going  to  let  us  sleep  8  hours  or  what? 

CC  That ' s  affirm.  Jack .    We ' re  -  we ' re  looking  good 

on  the  time,  and  we're  -  Not  only  will  you  get, 
we  hope,  8  hours  of  good  sleep,  but  you'll  have 
a  full  EVA  tomorrow.     So,. it's  not  costing  us 
anything  there. 

LMP-LM      Sounds  great,  Joe.     I  -  I  fully  expect  it  won't 
be  much  longer  now. 

CC  And,  Gene,  just  for  rougji  planning  purposes,  we'll 

start  to  figure  your  sleep  period  starting  axoiaid 
152 : 30 .    And  we ' 11  be  looking  at  your  getting  up 
around  8  hours  from  that  time. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Joe;  I'll  buy  that. 

CC  Might  add,  also,  that  there  are  a  lot  of  us  looking 

forward  to  that  third  EVA  tomorrow.    It's  going 


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to  "be  the  last  one  on  the  lunsir  surface  for  some 
time, 

CDR-M      I  tell  you,  if  it's  anywhere  near  what  the  first 
two  were  like,  we're  looking  forward  to  it,  also. 

CC  Gene  and  Jack,  we're  still  marveling  at  the  >  i- 

tiful  television  pictures  that  we're  getting  from 
your  TV  camera  there.     It's  fun,  in  fact,  to  watch 
the  -  the  tracks  that  you're  leaving  behind  in  - 
in  the  -  the  lunar  soil,  both  footprints  and  Rover 
tracks.    And  some  of  us  are  down  here  now  reflect- 
ing on  what  sort  of  mark  or  track  will  someday 
disturb  the  tracks  that  you  leave  behind  there 
tomorrow. 

CDR-LM     That's  an  interesting  thought,  Joe,  but  I  think 

ve  all  know  that  somewhere,  someday,  someone  will 
be  here  to  disturb  those  tracks. 

CC  No  doubt  about  it,  Geno. 

U^SP-JM     Don't  be  too  pessimistic,  Joe.    I  think  it's  going 
to  happen. 

CC  Oh,  there's  no  doubt  about  that.    But  it's  fun  to 

think  about  what  sort  of  -  of  device  will  ulti- 
mately distiirb  your  tracks. 

LMP-LM     Well  that  device  may  look  something  like  your 
little  boy. 

CC  Boy,  he'd  mak;e  short  work  of  them. 

LMP-LM     Joe,  I'll  tell  you  it's  also  a  pretty  philosophical 
thought  to  think  that  you're  riding  around  out 
here  on  what  is  really  undisturbed  -  undisturbed 
everything,  you  know.     If  there  wsis  someone  here, 
way  back  when  sometime,  they  didn't  leave  much  - 
much  sign  of  their  whereabouts,  but  that's  an 
interesting  thought,  too,  as  you  drive  around  and 
all  of  a  sudden  cross  your  own  Rover  tracks  and 
figure  out  those  are  the  only  ones  that  have  maybe 
have  ever  been  here . 


CC 


Very  true. 


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LMP-IiM      And  with  that,  I'm  rolling  out  my  hammock. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Joe.     I'm  waving  goodnight  to  you.  I'm 
rolling  up  iry  overhead  window  cover. 

CC  Okay,  Gene  and  Jack.    We'll  say  good  night  to  you 

from  down  here,  unless  there's  some  other  way  i-^"- 
can  help  you, 

LMP-LM     No,  sir.     If  there  is,  we'll  give  you  a  call, 
though . 

CC  Just  want  to  end  hy  saying  what  a  terrific  job 

you  did  today,  and  really  looking  forward  to  to- 
morrow.   Have  a  good  8-ho^ars  rest . 

LMP-IM      Thank  you,  Joe.    Tomorrow  we  answer  all  the  un- 
answered questions.  Right? 


06  05  i+5  22    CC  If  not  more. 

06  05  h6  16  LMP-LM 


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06  08  00  22    CC  Good  morning ,  America.     How  are  you? 

06  08  01  IT    CMP  Hey,  Houston.     This  is  the  command  module  pilot 

of  the  United  States  spaceship  America,  and 
we're  ready  to  participate  in  another  day's 
activity. 

CC  Glad  to  hear  it,  Ron,     Good  morning. 

CMP  Good  morning. 

CMP  I  slept  with  my  lightweight  headset  on  last 

night  so  didn't  have  to  have  that  cap  on. 
Is  the  fidelity  of  this  thing  any  good,  at  all? 

CC  Pretty  good,  Ron.     Pretty  good.     And  as  you 

start  your  morning's  activities,  you  can  be 
aware  that  we  were  watching  the  spacecraft 
through  the  night ,  and  as  Flight  puts  it , 
everything  is  swinging. 

06  08  02  21    CMP  Outstanding.     That's  what  we  like. 

06  08  06  26    CMP  Hey,  it's  still  dark  outside. 

CC  We  start  work  early  around  here. 

CMP  Well,  I  guess, 

06  08  12  3U    CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  You  know,  I'd  just  be  kind  of  curious  how  the 

old  heart  rate  compares  to  those  sleep  tests 
that  we  did  -  pref light?    Is  it  about  the 
same  when  I'm  soundly  asleep  or  is  it  lower 
or  what ,  you  know? 

CC  Standby,  Ron,  and  I'll  ask  the  men  on  my 

left. 


Tape  lOlB/2 


CMP  Okay.     You  know,  maybe  they'll  have  that 

information. 

CC  Roger.     They  think  maybe  5  minutes.  And 

ve'll  be  back  to  you. 

06  08  13  30    CMP  Okay.     No  problem.     Curiosity  more  than 

anything. 

06  08  lU  08    CMP  I  didn't  get  quite  as  much  sleep  last  night.  I 

took  a  bath  and  changed  my  underwear,  and  all 
those  good  ...  things,  you  know.    Probably  onlj- 
got  -  oh,  maybe  7  hours  at  the  most.  Probably 
closer  to  6-1/2  of  good  sleep 

CC  Roger . 


CMP 


I'll  give  you  the  rest  of  that  in  Just  a  jiffy 
when  I  get  it  squared  away. 


06  08  Ik  38    CC  Okay. 

06  08  18  21    CC  America,  this  is  Houston. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Apparently  in  yoiir  preflight 

data  base  they  show  you  with  a  rate  of  in  the 
low  60 's  or  high  50 's,  that's  a  sleeping  rate. 
And  we're  showing  you  now,  during  youx  sleep 
periods ,  of  heart  rates  of  about  10  beats 
lower  per  minute.     And  with  heart  rates  that 
show  less  variation  than  the  preflight  data 
shows . 

CMP  Ah  ha,  okay.    Well,  thank  you  much.     Tlie  heart 

does  slow  down  a  little  bit  up  here,  then. 

CC  Apparently  so  -  they  assured  me  however,  that 

it  would  not  be  approaching  zero.     So  you  can 
relax  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 


Tape  10 IB/ 3 


And,  Ron,  in  the  meantime,  Gordo's  arrived  here 
and  -  I'll  turn  the  console  over  to  him.  Be 
taJJting  to  you  later  perhaps. 

Okay,  Joe.  Hey,  we  thank  you  much.  Appreciate 
it. 

Enjoyed  it.    Have  a  good  day;  and  we'll  all 
be  watching  you  close. 

Okay. 

Okay,  Houston;  America.     Here's  my  medical 
log. 

Okay,  Ron.     Good  morning  and  go  ahead. 

I  just  got  something  a  day  off  (laughter). 
Okay,  Gordo.     Glad  to  have  you  aboard  with  us. 
Okay.    PRD,  150UI;  and  the  sleep,  I  mentioned, 
probably  about  6-1/2  or  T  good  hours .     I  took 
a  Seconal  last  night ,  and  I  had  four  cans  of 
fluid. 

Okay. 

Okay,  here's  the  old  chow  for  day  6. 
Okay. 

Scrambled  eggs  ,  bacon  squares ,  peaches  , 
cinnamon  toasted  bread  cubes ,  orange  juice , 
cocoa  with  potassiian  and  a  vitamin  pill. 
Okay.     Lobster  bisque,  all  the  peanut  butter, 
all  the  jelly,  three  pieces  of  bread,  citrus 
beverage,  a  tea,  a  chocolate  bar,  and  a 
package  of  pecans.     And  I  had  a  beef  steak, 
butterscotch  pudding,  and  an  orange  drink. 

Okay,  got  that. 

I  think  that  was  it.    Hey,  today  I  get  sausage, 
grits,  fruit  coctall,  orange  beverage,  and 
coffee . 


Tape  lOlB/U 


06  08  23  hk    CC  Roger. 

06  08  2k  10    CMP  And,  Gordo,  if  you  have  one  of  these  pref light, 

not  preflight  -  but,  what  do  you  call  it  - 
geology  summarys  of  EVA-2,  like  you  had 
yesterday.     I  thought  that  was  great. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    I  Just  picked  it  up.     Let  me  read 

it  over  and  then  I'll  give  you  a  summary. 

06  08  2h  33    CMP  Oh,  okay.     Sure;  no  problem. 

06  08  28  kO     CC  Hello,  Ron.     I'll  give  you  a  little  summary 

here  of  the  EVA.    It's  going  to  be  a  little 
rambling,  because  I  haven't  had  time  to 
organize  it,  but  it  was  a  very  interesting 
night  last  night  on  that  second  EVA. 

CMP  Siire  that's  ...    Go  ahead. 


CC  Traverse  1e^  over  terrain  of  extraordinary 

geologic  diversity  and  yielded  a  far  greater 
variety  of  information  than  ever  obtained  on 
any  other  lunar  traverse.  Systematic 
descriptions  and  samples  of  four  of  the  six 
main  units  of  the  area,  massif,  subfloor,  the 
light  mantle,  and  the  dark  mantle  were  obtained. 
In  addition,  detailed  descriptions  were  given 
of  a  variety  of  craters ,  including  exciting 
discoveries  that  the  crater  Shorty,  and 
descriptions  of  the  Lee-Lincoln  Scarp  and 
lineaments  in  the  hilly  terrain.    The  South 
Massif  is  composed  of  two  main  varieties  of 
breccia;  blue-gray  and  tan-gray  blocks  of 
both  varieties  were  abundant  at  station  2  up 
on  Nans en.     I  won't  go  into  the  geologic 
details  on  those  breccias .  But  -  they  then 
found  samples  of  the  subfloor  lonit  exposed  as 
blocks  in  the  ejecta  around  larger  craters 
that  had  been  partly  buried  by  the  dark  mantle . 
Stand  by. 


Tape  10 IB/ 5 


Okay.     They  are  going  to  take  the  antenna 
away  from  us,  Ron.     I'll  have  to  finish  this 
next  time  around.     Spacecraft's  looking  good, 
we'll  see  you  in  about  1+5  minutes  or  so. 

Okay.    Mighty  fine  Gordo.     Thank  you. 
BEGIN  LUMAR  REV  35 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  102B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAMSCRIPTION 


06  09  23  12    CMP  llouston,  this  is  America.     See  you  tried  to  come 

in  there. 

CO  Yes,  Ron.     You're  loud  and  clear. 


CMP  Okay.     I'm  just  finishing  up  my  fruit  cocktail. 

CC  Okay.    While  you're  munching  there,  let  me  give  you 

a  few  status  reports  here.    First  of  all,  your  RCS 
is  hooking  right  along  there  k  percent  above  the 
Flight  Plan  line;  however,  we  have  some  plans  for 
that  h  percent,  which  I'll  go  over  with  you  later. 
On  the  oxygen,  you've  gained  a  little  on  it,  since 
I  was  last  on  anyway.    0^  tank  1  is  a  little  low, 

"but  it's  balanced  by  tank  3  being  a  -  a  little  high, 
and  tank  2  is  right  on  the  redline,  so  I  think  they 
all  balance  out  to  be  about  on  the  redline  on  the 
Flight  Plan  line.     And  they  all  three  balance  out 
to  be  right  on  the  Flight  Plan  line,  as  close  as 
I  can  tell.     On  hydrogen,  you're  probably  up  about 
k  percent  in  tank  1,  and  the  other  two  are  right 
on  the  line,  so  you  are  in  good  shape  there,  still. 

CMP  Very  good. 

CC  Okay,  while  you're  -  I've  got  some  words  on  your  - 

on  your  orbit  here,  which  won't  require  anything  - 
writing  down  anything  -  but  for  some  reason  you're 
missing  the  mascons  or  something,  and  your  orbit's 
not  degrading  like  we  expected  it  to.    It's  not 
degrading  down  into  a  circular  orbit.     It's  -  I 
think  it's  staying  just  about  the  way  it  was,  and 
so  we're  looking  ahead  to  a  plane  change,  and 
we're  -  we're  thinking  about  an  extra  maneuver 
prior  to  plane  change  -  about  1  hour  prior  to  plane 
change  on  the  back  side.     There  was  some  discussion 
here  about  what  to  call  that  maneuver.  Somebody 
wanted  to  call  it  a  HAM,  height  adjustment  maneuver, 
and  someone  else  said,  well  that  one's  already  used 
in  the  rendezvous  sequence.    Maybe  we  ought  to  make 
it  "bacon."    And  even  "lox"  was  was  suggested, 
considering  the  FDOs  objected  to  "bacon"  because  of 
his  religion.     So  the  "lox"  was  eliminated  because 
•we  already  used  that  for  the  S-IVB. 


Tape  102B/2 


CMP  How  atout  "mascon  adjust?" 

CC  Anyway,  what  the  maneuver's  going  to  be  -  whatever 

we  call  it  -  is  ahout  11  foot  per  second  RCS  burn, 
1  hour  prior  to  plane  change  so  that'll  be  on  the 
back  side.    And,  that'll  just  about  use  up  your 
RCS  overage  and  put  you  back  on  the  Flight  Plan 
line.    That  will  adjust  the  height  when  you  get 
around  to  the  plane  change,  and  then  the  plane 
change  will  be  a  little  bigger  than  originally 
planned,  showing  about  365  feet  per  second,  SPS, 
of  course.     And,  looking  at  the  consumables,  that 
will  put  you  down  right  -  right  on  the  rescue  red- 
line  on  SPS,  so  we're  still  in  good  shape  -  con- 
suinablewise.    Further  tracking  will  refine  this, 
of  course,  so  we'll  have  updates  on  the  plan.  Any 
q.uestions  on  that?  Over. 

06  09  27  16    CMP  No,  it  sounds  like  you  all  thoiaght  it  out.  I 

appreciate  your  letting  me  know  about  that.  I 
think  -  Is  the  time  line  worked  out  good  enough 
in  there  to  work  in  a  Pltl?    I  guess  it  does  -  an 
hour  before,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  well  -  we'll  make  it.     I  haven't  looked  at  it 

myself,  but  we  are  -  FAO  has  -  and  I  haven't  heard 
exactly  what  needs  to  be  changed,  if  anything. 
Okay,  on  the  SIM  bay.     Basically  there's  nothing 
new  to  report.    And  all  the  people  down  here  ap- 
preciate your  timely  operation  of  the  SIM  bay, 
and  it's  responsible  for  really  maximizing  the 
data  return.    In  general,  we're  pretty  happy.  The 
problems  that  we're  have  -  having  with  it  are 
ones  that  have  already  been  mentioned  to  you.  On 
the  -  on  the  HF  antenna  retract  problem  that  we 
have,  if  we  have  it,  here's  the  plan.    We're  - 
Well,  first  of  all,  the  consensus  on  that  is  that 
we  really  think  the  antennas  are  retracting  okay. 
That  it's  a  malfunction  in  the  limit  switch  that 
drives  the  talkback  that's  really  the  problem.  So 
we  have  devised  an  alternate  method,  utilizing 
timing  and  stall  current,  and  actually  the  signa- 
ture of  the  motor  stall  current  down  here  in  the 
data,  to  determine  proper  retraction.     And  Just 
prior  to  168  hours  in  the  Flight  Plan,  you're 
supposed  to  retract  those  antennas,  and  we're 
going  to  check  the  data  at  that  time,  and  say 


Tape  102B/3 


yes    or  "no";  they  are  retracting  or  they  aren't. 
If  they  don't,  then  the  alternate  plan  we'll  swing 
into  at  that  time  is  to  reschedule  the  HF  targets 
that  are  now  scheduled  on  rev  55.     Reschedule  them 
and  do  them  on  rev  1*2.    After  which,  we'll  try  one 
more  time  to  retract  the  antennas,  and  if  it  still 
looks  like  they  indeed  are  not  retracting  -  I  guess 
it's  just  the  one  that's  in  question  -  then  we'll 
go  ahead  and  jettison  them  at  that  time.    And  we'll 
still  have  gotten  most  of  the  -  of  the  least  - 
priority  HF  targets  with  that  alternate  plan.  Over. 

06  09  29  h5    CMP  Yes,  that  sounds  like  -  sounds  like  a  good  plan  to 


CC 


me. 


Okay,  we  got  one  request  from  EECOM  here.  Can 
you  turn  the        tank  2  FAKs ,  OFF,  please? 


06  09  30  OU    CMP  tank  2  FANs  are  OFF  now. 

CC  Okay.    And  when  you  get  hetween  courses  on  break- 

fast there,  I  have  some  pencil  work  for  you  in 
the  way  of  Flight  Plan  updates.  Kot  too  much, 
really . 

CMP  Okay.    Contrary  to  the  way  I  eat  breakfast  on  the 

ground,  I  always  end  up  leaving  my  orange  juice 
to  last.     I  guess  that's  because  you  like  to  eat 
the  hot  things  first. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  What  I'm  saying  Is  the  only  thing  I've  got  left  to 

eat  is  orange  juice,  and  I'm  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay,  156:22  -  which  is  coming  up  here  -  like  to, 

at  that  time,  verify  all  command  module  VHF  off. 
You  are  now  11  after  -  You  have  to  terminate  the 
jet-on  monitor  and  then  get  the  sounder  operating. 
I  can  break  this  off  at  any  time  if  you  think  we're 
pressing  that.    Just  interrupt  me.    At  156:50, 
lunar  sounder  pad.    T-start  is  156:51:05,  and 
T-spot  is  156:56:09.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.    T-start,  156:51:05,  156:56:09. 

CC             That's  good.     Flip  the  page  -  flip  two  pages  and 
copy  the  next  sounder  pad,  which  is  for  158:40. 
T-start  is  158:149:35  and  stop  time  is  I58  


Tape  102B/1* 


CMP  Wait  a  minute;  wait  a  minute.    I'm  not  with  you. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.     I  got  it  (chuckle). 

CC  Okay.  T-start   

CMP  Go  ahead,  now,  very  sorry. 

CC  -  -  158:1+9:35,  and  stop  is  158:514:38. 

CMP  Okay.    Start  158:1+9:35,  158:5!+:  38. 

CC  Okay,  that's  correct.    Now  at  -  that  same  page  - 

158:13,  after  "PM  CAMERA  -  OK,"  add  a  line  that 
says,  "V/H  OVERRIDE  -  HIGH  ALTITUDE." 

CMP           Okay,  at  158:13,  "V/H  OVERRIDE  to  HIGH  ALTITUDE." 
CC  Okay,  and  at  I58   

CMP  I  think  it's  still  in  HIGH  ALTITUDE  from  yesterday. 

Yes  ,  it  is . 

CC  Okay.     158:21  is  another,  "Verify  all  command  module 

VHF,  OFF." 

CMP  Okay,  158:21,  "Verify  all  VHF,  OFF,"  and  I  know 

what  that  means . 

CC  Okay,  and  the  next  two  are  easy.     Next  page,  at 

159:01.     Just  draw  a  line  through  "MAPPING  CAMERA, 
RETRACT,"  and  at  159:05  -  - 

CMP  Okay,  I  got  it. 

CC   draw  a  line  through  "MAPPING  CAMERA  LASER 

ALTIM  -  LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER,  CLOSED." 

CMP  Okay,  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  I  think  we're  caught  up.     We're  ready  for 

HIGH  GAIN,  AUTO, 

06  09  31+  28    CMP  Okay,  I'll  go  back  and  see  where  we  are  in  the  old 

Flight  Plan.     Okay,  you  have  AUTO. 


Tape  102B/5 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  think  this  lightweight  headset  is 

quite  as  good  as  the  -  the  other  one,  and  I'm  going 
to  change  as  soon  as  I  get  a  chance  here. 

CC  Okay. 

06  09  35  06    CMP  Okay,  VHF  A  is  OFF,  B  is  OFF,  RECEIVE  ONLY,  B  DATA 

is  OFF,  BEACON  is  OFF,  RANGING  is  OFF.  That's 
all  (chuckle). 

CC  Okay. 


CMP  I  was  looking  at  -  Aitken  when  they  came  that  side. 

Aitken  is  almost  right  in  the  terminator,  right 
now.    So  when  they  come  up  on  terminator  photos 
there  -  The  only  thing  is  that ,  even  though  it  was 
down  in  the  shadow,  down  in  the  bottom  of  the  cra- 
ter, I  could  still  see  the  bottom  of  the  craters 
on  -  when  they  come  around  there  for  the  nestr- 
terminator  photography.    I'm  going  to  open  the 
camera  up  and  take  a  picture  down  in  the  shadow 
itself  and  see  if  that  works. 


CC  Okeydoke . 

CMP  And  there  was  quite  a  bit  of  backlight  -  quite  a 

bit  of  backlight  reflection  from  the  northeastern 
side  of  it  and  also  the  eastern  side  of  it ,  I 
guess.     Funny,  down  in  the  eastern  rim  -  - 


CC  Ron,  if  you  give  us  ACCEPT,  we'll  give  you  a  vector 

while  you  got  it . 

06  09  36  29    CMP    the  only  way  I  can  describe  it  -  Okay.  You 

have  ACCEPT, 


CC  Roger . 

CMP  And  the  DSKY  is  clear.    With  the  shadow  effect 

on  the  eastern  -  I  guess  the  east  and  southeastern 
interior  rim  of  the  crater,  it  reminds  me  a  lot  of 
some  eroded  hills.     Like  if  you've  got  a  valley 


Tape  102B/6 


that  mayhe  has  a  20-foot  -it's  bigger  than  that  - 
but  say  you  got  a  20-foot  drop  on  the  thing  where 
It  s  been  -  just  rain  erosion  down  the  side  and  it 
kind  of  washes  little  -  little  valleys  down  it  here 
and  there.    And  it  leaves  mounds  and  humps  in  be- 
tween that  haven't  eroded  away  yet.    And  that's  the 
way  the  side  of  that  crater  works.    And  then  the 
other  side  of  it,  the  northeastern  rim  of  it  and 
the  interior  rim,  looks  just  like  a  -  a  -  one  of 
the  massif  units.    That  is,  it's  a  very  fine  texture, 
no  real  erosional  processes,  just  a  smooth,  gentle  - 
gentle  slope. 

CC  Roger . 

CC  Okay,  Ron;  it's  your  computer.     Go  gack  to  BLOCK. 

06  09  38  17    CMP  Okay,  we're  in  BLOCK. 


CMP 


CC 

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CMP 


CMP 
CC 


CMP 


CC 


You  know  that  Skylab  drink  bag  has  really  been  a 
pretty  good  deal  because  you  can  use  the  nipple 
that's  on  the  end  of  that  thing  and  use  it  for  all 
of  the  beverage  packages.    And  that  way,  you  don't 
have  to  cup  open  the  end  of  it  and  let  it  drip  out 
all  over  the  place. 

Hey,  I'll  pass  that  along  to  the  Skylab  -  - 
  you  can  use  the  nipple. 

I'm  not  sure  if  they  have  any  of  our  beverage  packs 
or  not.     I  think  they  are  all  packaged  in  these 
expandable  little  things  we're  using  for  water  - 


water  cans 
CC  I  see. 

Hey,  Gordo,  what  day  is  it? 


Out  of  sync  there  myself.     It's  Wednesday.  It's 
about  9:15  in  the  morning,  Wednesday. 

Ah  ha  I     Thank  you.     I  guess  I  co-old  have  figured 
It ■ up ,  but  - 

That's  why  we're  here.    Answer  important  questions. 


Tape  102B/T 


CMP  (Laughter)    That's  right. 

06  09  h2  3^    CMP  Hey,  getting  ready  for  LUHAE  SOUISDER  to  STANDBY. 

That's  a  "verify." 

CC  Roger. 

06  09  h3  Ik    CMP  And  RECORDER  is  -  RADAR  is  ON.    RECORDER  is  OFF, 

not  heaters.     I  see  the  old  MODE  is  still  in  VHF. 
Ah  ha!     I  get  to  control  the  spacecraft  again. 

TaJtes  about  five  minimum  impulse  "blips  to  get 
a  tenth  of  a  degree  per  second. 


CC  Roger. 

06  09  h8  17    CMP  The  dark  annulus  around  Serenitatis  -  As  you  look 

north  -  the  dark  variation  there,  and  I'm  kind  of 
looking  hack  -  looking  a  little  bit  backwards  now  - 
but  that  dark  has  no  continuity  with  the  ridge  at 
all.    Goes  right  down  the  middle  of  the  ridges. 
As  you  look  directly  east  of  Littrow  -  east  -  I 
mean  directly  west  of  Littrow,  the  wrinkle  ridge  is 
there,  and  then  there's  -  it  comes  out,  and  you 
have  the  light  tan,  tannish,  tannish         There's  a 
dark,  I  guess  you  call  it  -  a  dark  tannish-gray . 
And  then  you  get  out  to  the  light  tan  of  the  Mare 
Serenitatis,  itself. 


CC  Okay,  Ron. 

06  09  53  09    CMP  You  know,  I'm  looking  almost  directly  into  the  Sun 

and  you  can  still  see  a  topographic  expression  - 
topographic  high  around  the  rilles  in  the  Tacquet 
area,  and  also  the  grayness  has  disappeared  out  of 
that  -  out  of  the  dark  material,  and  it's  just  - 
looking  into  the  Sun  now  -  it  looks  more  of  a  tan  - 
a  darker  tan  than  the  Serenitatis  area.    And  you 
can  all  see  -  also  see  the  topographic  rise  to  it 
now  -  I'm  looking  quite  a  ways  away  from  it  and 
looking  down  on  it. 


CC  Roger. 

06  09  5k  23    CMP  You  know,  that's  kind  of  funny  now,  looking  back 

at  Sulpiclus  Callus  and  just  to  the  north  of  that, 


there's  a  crater  that's  about  -  well,  it's  right 
at  the  end  of  those  rilles  that  go  north  from 
Sulpicius  Gallus.    And  you  can  really  see  the 
ejecta  blanket.    The  eject a  blanket  looks  very 
dark,  around  it  now  in  this  Sun.    Now  you  look 
out  across  the  Mare  Serenitatis  now  and  you're 
getting  toward  the  sunset,  looking  back  into  the 
Sun,  and  the  color  is  disappearing  all  except  in 
that  onespot.    Now  that  must  be  a  -  either  a 
fresh  ejecta  -  and  you  look  the  brightness  of  it 
or  something  -  or  either  that  or  it's  dark.  It's 
sure  a  dark  -  it's  a  dark  ejecta  blanket  around 
it.    The  blanket  itself  goes  out  maybe  two  or 
three  crater  diameters,  and  it  looks  like  It  has 
kind  of  a  ray-type  pattern  to  it.     I'll  mark  that 
crater.    I  don't  even  know  if  it  has  got  a  name 
or  not,  but  I'll  mark  it  on  my  map. 

Okay. 

I  got  a  ding.     Let's  see.     It  must  be  time  to  do 
something. 

Yes,  it's  time  to  txirn  the  recorder  on. 


RECORDER,  ON.     RECORDER'S  ON. 
Okay. 

Just  -  I  don't  know  where  I  am  right  now,  I'll  be 
honest.    I  Just  looked  out  window  3,  and  I'm  right 
on  the  terminator.    And,  let's  see,  I'm  going 
west,  so  we've  got  some  arcuate  -  There's  kind  of 
a  mare  area  down  there.    Okay,  I  think  it  is. 
And  you. can  see  lava  tongues  sticking  out  through 
there.    And  lava  flow  fronts  with  the  high  side 
on  the  east  side  because  you  got  a  shadow  all  the 
way  along  the  front.    And  they're  about  -  in  the 
one  area  -  you  might  consider  a  scalloped  area  - 
an  ejecta  scallop.     Coming  out  of  that  one  area 
you  can  see  a  crazy  lava  flow  coming  out  from  it. 

Roger  on  that. 

At  least  the  flow  - 

Hey,  those  are  Apennines  I'm  just  going  over, 
aren't  they? 


Tape  102B/9 


CC  That's  right.     That's  what  they  ought  to  be.  We 

need  the  IR,  OFF. 

CMP  You  look  hack  out  across  Seren  -  Okay. 

CC  We  need  the  IR  COVER,  CLOSED,  please. 

CMP  Say  aigain,  Gordo. 

CC  We  want  the  IE  COVER,  CLOSED.    Right  away. 

06  09  59  3U    CMP  Okay,  it's  going  CLOSED.     Okay,  it's  CLOSED. 

How  about  the  UV? 

CMP  IR  COVER  is  CLOSED. 

CMP  I  was  just  going  to  say,  looking  back  across 

Serenitatis  into  the  Sun  now,  there  must  be  Bessel 
that  has  ejecta  pattern  out  there.    When  you  look 
at  the  ejecta  patterns  into  the  Sun,  they  all 
look  black  with  respect  to  the  mare.     I  think  it 
must  be  a  shadow  effect  or  something  that  you  get 
off  of  the  -  the  raised  ejecta  that  comes  up 
across  it . 

CC  Roger . 

06  10  02  Ul    CC  Hey,  Ron,  that  frantic  call  there  was  because  the 

Sun  had  started  to  get  in  the  IR  and  hadn't  really 
thought  that  would  happen,  but  started  to  see  it 
get  in  there.    But  you  caught  it  in  time;  the 
cover  saved  it. 

CMP  Okay.    Real  good.    I  figured  that's  probably  what 

it  was. 

CC  And  you  can  go  ahead  with  the  rest  of  the  steps 

in  there  with  the  UV  off  after  s\inset. 

06  10  03  21    CMP  Okay.     MAPPING  CAMERA  is  going  OFF.     COVER'S  CLOSED 

on  the  IR  so  then  we'll  turn  it  off.     PAK  CAMERA, 
SELF  TEST,  OFF.     And  let's  see,  I  don't  see  the 
Sun  shining  up  a  light  out  there.     It  must  be  sun- 
set.   Couldn't  be  yet,  though.     Yes,  sure  enough 
is,  though.    Okay,  UV's  going  OFF.     You  want  the 
IR  COVERS  back  OPEN  just  to  keep  things  straight 
here? 


Tape  102B/10 


CC  Stand  by  on  that. 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


They're  just  -  I  -  next  time  we  use  the  IR,  let's 
just  remember  to  open  the  cover. 

Okay.    Just  open  it  up  the  next  time  we  use  it, 
which  is  in  about  15  minutes.    We'll  we'll  remind 
you  on  that  if  you  forget. 


CMP  Oh,  okay.    That's  right.     Okay.    That's  right, 

these  are  just  short  sounder  passes  now  aren't 
they? 

CC  That's  right. 


Ron,  I  can  finish  up  hqt  description  of  the  last 
night's  EVA  if  you  like  since  nothing  to  look  at 
now.     I'm  watching  the  clock  on  the  sounder  start 
for  you. 

Okay;  hey,  appreciate  it. 

06  10  06  01    CC  Okay,  think  I  left  off,  or  was  cut  off  there 

without  mentioning  two  varieties  of  breccia  in  the 
South  Massif.    They  found  blue-gray  and  tan-gray 
and,  without  going  into  the  geological  details, 
those  are  the  two  types  they  found  up  there  at 
Hansen.    The  subfloor  unit  was  exposed  as  blocks 
and  ejecta  around  larger  craters  had  been  partly 
buried  by  dark  mantle.    And  craters  apparently  had 
penetrated  thin  parts  of  the  light  mantle.  Espe- 
cially good  samples  were  obtained  from  the  rim  of 
Camelot  where  the  same  textural  characteristics 
which  are  banding  caused  by  variations  in  vesicle 
concentration,  coarse-grain  size,  and  mineralogic 
features,  as  reported  in  EVA-1,  were  found.  So 
apparently  this  unit  is  quite  uniform  over  the 
distances  that  they  have  covered  so  far  in  the 
traverses.     The  prominent  east-facing  scarp, 
crossing  the  valley  floor  from  north  to  south  about 
5  kilometers  west  of  the  LM,  was  traversed  twice 
near  the  crater  Lara,  near  Hole-in-the-Wall ,  al- 
although  Hole-in-the-Wall  appeared  to  be  pretty 
subtle.     No  change  in  the  surface  characteristics 
or  lithology  of  the  mantle  was  discernible  where 
the  astronauts  traversed  the  Scarp.     Outcrops  of 


Tape  102B/11 


boulders  were  observed  farther  to  the  north  where 
the  northward  extension  of  the  Scarp  crosses  the 
face  of  the  North  Massif,  it  forms  a  notably 
smooth  and  relatively  young-appearing  surface. 
Elsewhere,  the  surface  of  the  North  Massif  is 
prominently  furrowed  and  textured,  and  the  crew 
described  it  as  a  cross-hatched  pattern  on  the 
surface  that  they  could  see  with  one  set  of  linea- 
ments dipping  eastward  and  the  other  westward  at 
about  30  degrees.     Some  of  the  most  interesting 
observations  made  during  the  EVA  were  related  to 
craters.    Many  small  craters  within  the  dark  mantle 
have  glass-coated  central  pits.     Jack  called  them 
dimples.    Some  of  the  pits  are  nearly  cylindrical 
and  maybe  half  again  as  deep  as  the  crater  itself. 
Other  small  craters  occurring  in  both  the  dark  and 
light  mantle  have  bright  halos,  but  these  halos 
appear  to  be  noticeably  brighter  on  the  light- 
colored  material.    This  bright  material  is  not 
blocky  or  fragmental  ejecta  derived  from  a  subfloor 
layer,  but  rather  appears  to  consist  of  "instant 
rock"  or  soil  breccia  which  has  been  partly  con- 
solidated by  the  impact  shock  itself.     The  most 
interesting  eureka  during  the  EVA  was  at  station  U, 
Shorty  Crater,  where  Jack  found  some  bright  red  or 
orange,  he  described  it,  orange  dirt  within  the 
gray  to  dark-gray  rim  material.    The  colored  band- 
ing is  circumferential  to  the  crater  and  resembled 
alteration  halos,  which  occur  around  many  terres- 
trial volcanic  vents.    So  you  can  see  why  the 
geologists  are  excited  on  that  one.     The  morphology 
of  Shorty,  however,  is  similar  in  some  respects  -  - 

06  10  09  20    CMP  You  bet  you. 

OC  -  -  impact  craters  have  definitive  interpretation 

of  its  origin  may  depend  on  sample  analysis.  And 
I  got  about  a  , minute  and  a  half  to  start  the  sounder. 
It  might  be  close  to  02:30  there,  if  you  aren't. 
They  took  a  total  of  about  850  pictures.  They've 
taken  a  total  of  1270,  would  you  believe,  pic- 
tures ...  on  the  lunar  surface.     Including  about 
150  with  the  500-millimeter  camera  mostly  of  the 
North,  South,  East  Massifs,  and  Family  Mountain. 
They  got  56  samples,  two  double  cores,  probably 
about  36  kilograms  worth,  and  they  traveled  a 
total  distance  of  20  kilometers.  Over, 


Tape  102B/12 


CMP  Hey,  sounds  like  a  good  summary.    They're  finding 

all  kinds  of  things  up  there.  Which  is  the  reason 
you  explor,  I  guess,  to  find  -  to  see  what  you  can 
find. 


CC 


CMP 


Yes,  they  -  they  vere  really  in  their  element  last 
night.    About  30  seconds  to  T-start  time.  I'll 
let  you  call  it  yourself,  though. 


CMP  Okay.    I'll  get  it. 

06  10  11  Ok    CMP  DATA  SYSTEMS  are  OFF.    OPERATE,  05. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Hope  this  thing's  in  Reiner  Gamma.    Then  you  can 

find  some  sort  of  a  topographic  expression,  to 
that  light-colored  material  around  there.     It  looks 
to  me  like  there  is  -  right  around  the  Reiner  Gamma 
itself  anyhov. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Maybe  the  lunar  sounder  will  collaborate  my  moon- 

light investigations  here  -  or  earthlight  investi- 
gations, I'm  sorry. 

CC  (Laughter) 

CMP  While  we're  waiting  here  -  I  decided  to  sleep  last 

night  without  being  tied  down  or  anything.     So  I 
slept  in  the  old  -  What  do  you  call  them  in  the 
Navy?  - 

CC  Hammocks,  I  think. 


Well,  anyhow,  sleeper  strings,  we  call  them  up 
here.    Yes,  sleeping  bags  -  or  some  kind  of  sack. 
And  the  last  2  or  3  nights,  what  I'd  do  is  put 
the  lap  belt  on  loosely.    And  you  know,  it  just 
kind  of  keeps  you  from  rolling  all  over  the  cockpit. 
Then  last  night,  I  didn't  put  it  on  at  all  and 
stayed  in  the  sack.    And  I  really  didn't  go  too  far 
anyhow.    One  time  I  woke  up  and  I  was  crossways  in 
the  couch  up  here.    And  then  when  I  woke  up  this 


Tape  102B/13 


CC 


morning  my  feet  were  up  in  the  tunnel,  and  my  head 
was  kind  of  still  in  the  center  couch,  more  or  less. 
So  you  really  don't  roam  around  too  much  that  way 
anyhow,  even  if  you  aren't  tied  down.    And  you  can 
get  the  "huggy  pillow"  effect  hy  being  inside  that 
sack  and  laying  your  head  on  the  outside  of  the 
sack.     It  just  about  fits  me,  except  that  if  I 
stretch  my  feet  out  -  then  I  get  a  little  bit  of 
a  pull.    Little  bit  of  a  pull  -  on  it  and  it  feels 
like  a  huggy  pillow  that  way. 

Kind  of  a  security  blanket  effect,  huh? 

CMP  (Laughter)    Yes,  right.     That  was  the  biggest 

problem  the  first  2  or  3  days  here  -  what  do  you 
do  with  your  head  when  you  go  to  sleep.    I'm  used 
to  sleeping  with  a  pillow.    And  I'm  used  to  sleeping 
on  my  side.    And  it's  amazing  the  psychological  ef- 
fect that  you  can  get  from  -  for  me  it's  hard  to 
go  to  sleep  just  laying  on  my  back.     So  you  can  - 
turn  on  your  side  and  you  go  right  to  sleep 
(laughter).    What's  your  side  and  what's  your 
back  -  I  don't  know,  but  arQrhow,  it  works. 

CC  That's  got  to  be  psychological. 

06  10  16  57    CMP  (Laughter)    It  sure  is. 

CMP  5.  6,  7.  8  - 

06  10  16  12    CMP  MARK  it.     LUUAR  SOUHDER  to  STAITOBY. 

CC  Okay. 

06  10  17  Ik    CMP  Okay.     RECORDER  is  going  OFF.     ...  the  heaters. 

CC  Roger. 
06  10  17  2k    CMP  DATA  SYSTEMS  coming  ON. 

06  10  17  hi    CMP  Okay.     SM/AC  POWER  is  ON. 

06  10  18  i+O    CMP  I  guess  we  need  to  open  the  old  door.     IR,  OFF, 

barberpole,  gray  bar.     I  get  to  mess  with  the  old 
optics  again. 


Tape  102B/11* 


CC 


CC 


We're  getting  some  of  that,  Ron.    Sounds  like  the 
mike  might  have  slipped  away  from  your  mouth, 
thotigh. 


CMP  Okay.    That's  a  good  point  -  let  me  change  my 

headsets  here,  Anyvay,  I  went  right  through  the 
Flight  Plan  with  all  that  stuff. 

CC  Okay,  and   

CMP  ...  left  the  IP  COVER,  OPEN. 

CC  Okay.    Great  memory  there. 


Ron,  if  you  like  while  you're  getting  ready  for  the 
52,  I  can  summarize  the  news  real  rapidly.  There 
wasn't  a  whole  lot. 


Okay.    Sure,  go  ahead,  I've  got  a  different  head- 
set now.    Is  that  okay? 

Yes,  you're  loud  and  clear.     Former  President 
Truman  is  still  hanging  in  there.    His  heartbeat 
and  breathing  became  unstable  yesterday,  but  then 
improved  again.    Of  coiirse,  the  big  headlines 
were  about  the  discovery  of  the  orange  dirt  at 
Shorty  Crater.    And  there  was  a  picture  of  Jan, 
John,  and  Jaime  in  the  paper,  watching  the  EVA 
on  TV.    The  only  thing  new  on  the  peace  talks  is 
that  Kissinger  will  probably  be  coming  back  to  the 
United  States  today  and  there's  a  rumor,  the  French 
press  said  that  the  compromise  is  in  the  work  on 
the  withdrawal  of  the  North  Vietnamese  troops  from 
the  south.    The  Rockets  lost  -  the  Aeros,  the 
hockey  team,  won  last  night.    They  beat  the  Alberta 
Oilers.     The  Rockets  lost  to  Buffalo.    And  the 
weather  finally  cleared  out.     The  cold  front  cleared 
out  the  wet  stuff  and  last  night  I  think  was  the 
first  time  since  you  guys  launched  that  we've  had 
a  look  at  the  Moon,  so  we  had  a  direct  look  at 
you  last  night.    It's  just  nice  and  sunny  here, 
this  morning  when  I  came  to  work.  Over. 

Hey ,  thanks  for  the  news  and  I  guess  those  three 
guys  that  went  up  to  the  Moon  -  you  know,  they 
probably  cleared  that  weather  up  there  in  Houston. 


Tape  102B/15 


CC 
CMP 

06  10  2k  31  CMP 

CC 
CMP 

CC 

CMP 

CC 

06  10  26  lit  CMP 

CC 
CC 


06  10  2T  2k  CMP 

06  10  28  58  CMP 
06  10  53  XX 


It  sure  took  you  awhile  though. 
( Laught  er )    Ri ght . 

Okay,  ik    is  Canopus  again,  the  same  ones  I  had 
last  night  I  think.    That's  Canopus.  Canopus 
looks  about  as  bright  as  Sirius,  but  not  quite. 

Roger . 

^ty  sextant  -  is  good  and  everything  like  that,  but 
you  just  can't  quite  get  the  reticle  in  focus. 

Roger . 

It's  kind  of  the  way  they  said  it  was  going  to  be. 

Okay,  Ron.     We  copy  those.     Clear  to  torque  them. 

Okay,  let's  see;  we'll  torque  at  -  oh,  make  it 
06:30. 

All  righty. 

Ron,  we've  still  got  about  5  or  6  minutes  until 
LOS,  but  in  case  we  drop  off  on  your  maneuvering 
there  -  Just  want  to  tell  you  that  everything's 
looking  good.     In  fact,  the  IR  is  pumping  out 
good  data,  so  with  that  fantastic  teamwork,  we 
saved  it  back  there,  and  we'll  see  you  next  time 
around. 

Hey,  okay.    Sounds  good,  there's  little  old 
Aldebaran  in  there.     Saturn  still  must  be  out  of 
the  -  There  it  goes  into  the  - 

(Htunming)  got  to  align  the  old  GDC  here. 


BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  36 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  103B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAMSCRIPTION 

06  11  20  18    CMP  Aha!    We  have  acquired  on  OMNI  D. 

CC  Hello  there,  America.    We  hear  yoiir  scratchy- 

sounding  omni. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Probably  so. 

CC  You're  readable  but  noisy. 

CMP  You're  cutting  in  and  out  on  the  omni.    I  thought  I 

couldn't  get  you. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Looks  like  we  get  the  high  gain  here  pretty  quick. 

06  11  22  52    CC  Roger. 

06  11  27  29    CMP  Launch  a  little  heavy  [ ? ] . 

CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.    We  probably  have  pretty 

good  coram  now,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  Ron.    We're  getting  you  now,  and  you  sound 

good. 

CMP  Okay.    I  don't  have  any  observations  to  report 

from  the  back  side.    About  time  for  blue  bag 
number  k.    Somebody  has  got  to  develop  a  better 
mouse  trap. 

06  11  29  23    CC  Roger  on  that. 

06  11  32  07    CMP  Okay,  the  old  PAK  CAMERA'S  in  STANDBY. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  Power's  coming  -  power's  coming  on  and  V/H  is  the 

HIGH  ALTITUDE. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  we're  ready  for  SELF  TEST. 


Tape  103B/2 

CMP  Okay,  going  to  SELF  TEST  - 

06  11  32  k9    CMP  Kow.     Barber  pole. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  by  the  way,  mag  Lima  Lima  is  empty.     I65  frames 

showing  there.    Started  mag  Mike  Mike  with  frame 
number  95.    Finished  the  orbital  science  at  lU2. 
Took  the  crazy  camera  at  f/5.6  at  1/125.    When  I 
got  ready  to  change  to  f/5.6  at  1/250,  I  looked  at 
the  crazy  thing  and  it  was  setting  at  f/ll.  Maybe 
those  first  frames  in  there,  maybe  they  can  develop 
them  a  little  different  or  something  and  still 
bring  -  get  them  to  come  out. 

06  11  37  01    CC  Okay,  Ron.    We  got  that. 

CMP  I  think  what  happens  is  I  must  have  been  holding 

the  thing  by  the  lens  or  something  or  I  bumped 
the  -  the  f-stop  thing  somehow. 

CC  Ron,  we're  ready  for  PM  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF.  And 

did  you  go  to  HEATERS  after  you  set  the  SELF  TEST 
switch  to  SELF  TEST,  when  we  started  this? 

CMP  No,  I  just  went  back  to  to  OFF.    Was  I  supposed 

to  go  to  HEATERS? 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  it  in  HEATERS,  now. 

06  11  37  59    CMP  Okay,  it's  going  to  HEATERS.     Now  it's  spring- 

loaded  to  OFF,  and  I  Just  left  it  there.  Okay, 
going  to  HEATERS,  and  now  it's  going  to  -  power 
if  OFF. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Okay,  let's  see.    Are  we  ready  for  Lunar  Sounder? 

Heed  a  clock  down  here  by  panel  230  (laugh) . 
Not  really.    I  can  look  back  and  see  the  LEB  one. 
Okay,  it's  about  time.    Okay.    LUNAR  SOUNDER 's 
verified  in  STANDBY.    The  RECORDER  is  going  ON. 
RADAR  is  going  ON.     And  the  RECORDER  is  OFF,  not 
the  heaters.    If  antenna  1,  verify  they're  out, 
eh?    EXTEND.    No  barber  pole.    Back  to  OFF. 
Number  2  EXTEND.  No  barber  pole.    Back  to  OFF. 


Tape  103B/3 


Okay,  MODE  is  going  to  HF  and  let  me  take  a  look 
at  -  Alfa  is  OFF;  Bravo  is  OFF.    B  DATA  is  OFF, 
BEACON  is  OFF;  i?ANGING  is  OFF.    Okay,  let's  see. 
Two,  two.     250  lens.  Okay. 

D6  11  kO  27    CMP  5.6  ***  fifth  and  infinity.    Mag  QQ. 

CMP  Mike  goes  in  the  temporary  stowage  hag;  QQ  goes  on 

with  lOU  frames . 

CMP  That's  going  to  he  window  3. 

CMP  Somehody  had  -  had  his  nose  up  against  window  3,  here. 

Got  to  wipe  it  off.    Boy,  these  windows  have  really 
been  great  though.    They  haven't  -  you  know  - 
don't  have  any  coatings  or  anything  like  that  on 
them. 

06  11  k2  18    CC  Roger,  on  that. 

CMP  I'll  be  darned.     I'll  bet  that's  a  little  micro- 

meteorite  pit  in  window  3.     Right  in  the  middle 
of  it .    It  looks  like  two  of  them  out  there .     It ' s 
about  -  much  smaller  than  a  1/32  -  1/6U  -  l/6h  in 
diameter  probably, 

CC  Gotcha. 

CMP  It's  a  little,  round  -  Doesn't  seem  to  have  any  - 

It's  just  a  pit,  you  know. 

CC  Ron,  you  said  that  was  window  3? 

CMP  Window  3 ,  yes  . 

CC  Okay . 

C6  11  1+5  5^    CMP  Oh,  it  scared  me  for  a  minute  there.    I  was  con- 

figuring for  terminator  photos,  and  I  looked  on 
the  near-side  terminator,  and  I  didn't  see  any. 
It's  on  the  far  side. 

CC  Yes,  Stu  and  I  were  looking  at  the  same  thing. 

We're  Just  about  a  -  30  seconds  ahead  of  you. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.     One's  of  Aitkin  on  the  far  side. 

Okay.    Aitken  and  Ibn  Hyan  [sic],  I  think,  or  some- 
thing like  that.    Debber  [?],  Ibn  Hyan  [sic]. 


Tape  103B/1+ 


CMP  Yes.    You  know,  going  to  come  across  -  come  across 

the  Tacquet  area  again,  and  there  doesn't  seem  to 
be  any  -  it  -  there's  a  bright  crater  -  a  recent 
crater  in  the  annulus  -  in  that  dark  annulus ,  in 
the  southern  part  of  Serenitatis,  it  shows  up 
again  as  that  kind  of  a  blue-gray  brightness ,  as 
opposed  -  as  opposed  to  the  tannish  -  tannish 
brightness  of  the  -  of  the  bright  craters  in 
Serenitatis.    There's  still  is  no  apparent  wrinkle 
ridge  -  there's  no  color  tone  or  differentiation 
in  the  winkle-ridge  area,  in  this  part  of  it.  The 
only  differentiation,  and  -  It  looks  like  south  of 
Tacquet  you  get  the  same  color  tone  variation  occurs 
on  over  into  Tranquillitatis .    When  you  get  to  the 
Tacquet  area,  from  Tacquet  up  to  Miller  or  some- 
thing -  I  wish  I  could  remember  the  name  of  that 
crazy  crater. 

CC  How  about  Menelaus. 

06  11  1+9  31    CMP  Menelaus.    That's  it.    Yes.    From  Tacquet  up  to 

Menelaus  now,  the  -  that's  got  to  be  a  buildup  of 
material  and  it's  more  on  the  tan  side  than  it  is 
on  the  -  more  of  a  dark  tan  than  it  is  to  the 
tannish-gray.    So  it's  a  different  type  of  material 
than  -  than  on  the  annulus  down  below  the  crater, 
Tacquet . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    You're  saying  this  is  sort  of  a  annular 

plateau,  then,  that  stretches  across  between 
Tacquet  and  Menelaus? 


CMP 


Yes,  it  is.     It's  an  annular  plateau  in  there,  and 
the  plateau  is  got  to  have  been  coming  from  those 
rilles  down  -  that  are  down  in  there. 


CC  Okay,  do  those  -  Maybe  you've  already  said  this  - 

do  those  wrinkle  ridges  cross  the  color  boundaries? 

CMP  No,  I  can't  find  the  wrinkle  ridge  that  crosses  the 

color  boundary.    The  wrinkle  ridges  are  out  in 
Serenitatis  itself,  and  there  is  no  color  boundary 
on  the  western  edge  of  Serenitatis.     It's  all  the 
same . 

CC  Okay.     Those  sound  like  supergood  observations, 

Ron. 


Tape  103B/5 


CMP  Passing  over  -  Sulpic  -  and  -  I'm  Just  passing 

over  Sulpicius  Gallus ,  now.    And  Just  laeyond 
Sulpicius  Gallus  -  Sulpicius  Gallus  is  out  in 
the  Mare  Tranquillitatis ,  itself,  and  it  looks 
like  you  could  -  it's  either  a  talus  slope  -  you 
know,  you  got  a  gentle  slope  of  the  -  of  the  massif 
coming  down  and  then  it  changes  slope  a  little  bit , 
and  the  -  it  looks  like  you  have  finer-grained 
material.    And  that  might  be  what  we  have  at  one 
time  or  another  called  the  high-water  mark,  but  I 
kind  of  believe  that's  just  a  talus  change  in  the 
slope.    As  you..go  on  down  there  in  the  fine-grained 
material,  somehow  developing  down  there  in  the 
bottom.    But  as  soon  as  you  cross  that  area  - 
we're  going  west  now  from  Sulpicius  Gallus  -  again 
we've  got  kind  of  the  same  tannish  -  a  dark  tan 
material  that  essentially  covers  the  highland  - 
this  highland-type  of  an  area  here .    It ' s  a  hummocky- 
type  material.    There  are  a  few  rilles  Just  north 
of  Siilpicius  Gallus;  those  rilles,  again,  have  - 
have  the  dark  tan  material  on  it.    About  the  same 
as  the  tan  -  same  color  tones  that  you  pick  up  from 
Tacquet  to  Mele  -  Meleneis  [sic]. 

06  11  51  5J+    CC  Okay  sounds  great.    Keep  talking,  we'll  cue  you  as 

the  Flight  Plan  events  come  up. 

CMP  Okay.    D  -  D-Caldera  is  sure  fascinating.     I'll  try 

and  take  a  quick  look  with  the  binocs  on  that  one. 
***  binoc  and  I  can't  find  it  there.    There  it  is. 

CMP  I  hope  the  pictures  will  kind  of  confirm  a  little 

bit  of  a  -  of  a  topographic  rise  around  the  D-Caldera, 
Just  a  slight  one,  and  it's  about  half  the  width 
of  the  -  if  you  -  As  you  look  at  the  "D,"  it's  a 
half  a  width  of  the  "D,"  not  the  height,  but  the 
width.    And  it  seems  to  be  a  raised,  kind  of  a 
raised,  flat  rim  around  it.    The  color  of  the 
raised  bumps  down  in  the  D-Caldera  are  the  same 
as  the  surrounding  material,  around  there.  The 
de  -  the  bumps  that  are  raised  up  are  smooth 
looking  and  the  depression  for  it  has  to  be  a 
caldera,  I  guess,  or  at  least,  the  part  of  the 
depression,  anyhow,  is  a  light  bluish  gray;  I'll 
call  it  that  way,  very  light  bluish  gray. 


Tape  103B/6 


06  11  5I1  Ik    CC  Hey,  Ron  I'm  not  suggesting  you  do,  because  it's 

probably  trouble  to  find.    Have  you  tried  the 
color  wheel,  comparing  it  on  any  of  this  stuff? 

CMP  (Laughter)    No,  I  haven't.     Let  me  try.    That's  a 

good  idea,  though.    I'll  try  that  and  see  what  I 
can  come  up  with  on  that  thing. 

CC  Well,  don't  don't  go  to  a  lot  of  trouble.     I  never 

got  around  to  it,  but  you  might  -  you  might  peg 
down  some  of  these  colors  a  little  better.  Parti- 
cularly when  you  were  talking  last  night  about  - 
on  the  back  side  -  - 

CMP  That's  a  good  point. 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CC 
CMP 


CC 


On  one  of  those  passes  about  the  green. 


CMP  Yes . 


Okay,  you're  about  T  seconds  away  from  where  we're 
wanting  the  recorder  on,  Ron.    Any  time  here's  fine. 


CMP  Okay,  RECORDER  -  let's  see  - 

06  11  55  09    CMP  Is  ON.    Verify  RADAR  is  ON,  remove  HF,  okay. 


You  know,  to  me,  the  Moon's  got  a  lot  more  color 
than  I'd  been  led  to  believe.     I  kind  of  had  the 
impression  that  everything  was  the  same  color. 
That's  far  from  being  true. 


CC  Okay. 


I  guess,  maybe  we  could  say,  perhaps,  color  is  in 
the  eye  of  the  beholder. 

I  think  there  is  a  considerable  amount  of  truth 
to  that. 


CMP  (Whistling) 


Okay,  Ron.  We'll  take  the  MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF, 
now. 

06  11  59  00    CMP  Okay,  the  old  MAPPER  is  going  OFF. 


Tape  103B/T 


CC  Ron,  you're  clear  to  go  to  STANDBY  on  the  MAPPING 

CAMERA. 

06  11  59  51    CMP  Okay,  MAPPER 's  going  to  STANDBY.    MOTION  is  up, 

barlDerpole.     CAMERA  is  OFF.    PAN  CAMERA  SELF  TEST, 
OFF.     Okay,  turn  the  old  SM/AC  POWER,  OFF,  again. 
SERVICE  MODULE  AG  POWER  is  OFF. 

CMP  (Huimning) 

CMP  (Whistling) 

CMP  Okay,  must  he  sunset.     IR  is  coming  - 

06  12  Ok  59    CMP  OFF.     ***  ...  OFF.    Okay,  I'm  going  to  go  to  plus-X , 

Plus  52.25.    There  is  an  UP-LINK.     VERB  58  ENTER. 
Ah,  litl.    That's  pretty  close.  228. 

06  12  05  05    CMP  Ah  -  plus  666kl.    ENTER,  there  at  1+8  07.     ***  at 

U935.    That's  about  right. 

06  12  08  09    CC,  We're  about  a  minute  and  a  half  to  T-start ,  now. 

CMP  Okay.     Cue  release,  [?]  ENTER. 

CMP  OMNI  Bravo. 

CMP  Power  OFF.     Okay,  data  systems   

06  12  09  05    CC  Okay,  30  seconds  to  T-start. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  IOUb/I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  12  09  05    CMP    ...  five.     Okay,  at  ko  minutes  -  Okay.     I  got 

the  HIGH  GAIN,  OFF.     Got  my  finger  on  the  DATA 
SYSTEMS.     Okay.     DATA  SYSTEMS  are  going  OFF; 
OPERATE  at  1+9:35.     OPERATE.     5h:38.     Give  me  a 
call  on  that,  Gordo.     I'm  going  to  look  out  the 
window  here  for  a  tit. 

CC  Sure  will,  Ron. 

CMP  A  minute  before  that  or  so. 

CMP  I  had  the  lights  up.     I  may  not  he  light  adapted. 

CMP  Sure  is  . . . 

CMP  I  was  trying  to  think  if  there  was  anything  I 

could  add  to  the  Reiner  Gamma  ohservation  there. 
I'm  right  over  that  -  the  light  albedo  of  that 
type  of  material  that  goes  perpendicular  between 
Reiner  and  Reiner  Gamma.     It's  kind  of  a  crooked 
type  -  Well,  you  know,  it  goes  for  a  little  ways, 
and  then  it  breaks  off  into  a  dark-albedo-type 
stuff;  and  then  breaks  off  in  another  direction  a 
little  bit.    So,  it  doesn't  look  like  a  straight 
ray  at  all. 

06  12  12  26    CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  know  -  you  can  see  crater  holes,  and  this  type 

of  thing.    You  look  right  down  on  Reiner  now, 
you've  sure  got  that  dark  annulus  -  the  lighter- 
albedo-type  stuff  is  essentially  in  the  middle  of 
it.    And  the  ajinulus  is  -  let's  see,  maybe  30  kilo- 
meters wide  by  twice  as  long  -  that's  a  relative 
size,  anyhow  -  by  twice  as  long,  and  that's  the 
dark  area.     And  then  aroimd  that,  the  light  albedo 
stuff  is  about  half  of  the  width,  and  it's  lighter 
on  the  outside  than  it  is  on  the  inside.    The  in- 
side is  not  quite  as  light  as  the  -  I'd  call  it 
the  rim,  I  guess.     It's  very  hard  to  see  any  -  - 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  IOI4B/2 


CMP    great,  great,  great  topographic  expression 

to  it,  though.  The  reason  I  say  that  is  because 
it  kind  of  "blends  in  with  everything,  whereas  if 
you  look  at  a  crater  out  here  in  the  middle  of 
the  mare  or  a  hill,  you  get  a  brighter  -  part  of 
it's  brighter  than  the  surrounding  territory. 
You  can  actually  see  the  demarcation.  So  that's 
the  way  you  get  your  depth  perception  out  of  it. 

CC  Okay,  about  30  seconds  now  until  T-stop. 

CMP  Okay.    T-stop  is  5^:38  and  we'll  go  to  STMDBY 

at  that  time.    Tape  switch.     3,        5,  6,  7; 
STANDBY. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  give  you  a  call  in  a  minute. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     It's  been  a  minute. 

06  12  15  h7    CMP  Okay.     RECORDER  is  OFF  -  not  HEATERS.     RADAR  is 

OFF.  DATA  SYSTEM  goes  back  ON.  HIGH  GAIN  ANTENNA 
POWER  to  ON.  And  we're  about  minus,  kh,  I  guess. 
And  select  the  old  HIGH  GAIN.  There  we  go.  REACQ 
*»*  AUTO.  ***  in  NARROW.  INCO's  going  to  do  some 
commanding.  ***  goes.  Tape  motion  is  going. 
Continue  on  here  to  the  SM/AC  POWER.  Okay.  SM/AC 
POWER  is  ON. 

06  12  IT  Ok    CMP  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  STANDBY.     IR  *»»  CAMERA  SELF 

TEST  ***.     ***  is  ON.  PURGE  LINE  HEATER.  Do 

a  hydrogen  purge,  here,  shortly,  I  guess. 

06  12  17  1+2    CMP  Well  -  Leave  that  cover  open  there,  and  let  the 

Mendall  Mendall  [?]  get  some  data  for  a  while;  on 
Dr.  Low,  or  whoever  happens  to  be  there.    And  I'll 
step  ahead  and  sample  the  old  BUSS. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Do-do-do-do-dadoot-doot . 

CMP  Houston,  America.     You  might  tell  the  medics  not 

to  pay  any  attention  to  those  sample  numbers  on 
those  busses.    Pay  attention  to  the  GET  time. 


Tape  lOl+B/3 


because  when  you  take  them  out  of  the  buss  storage 
bag,  the  right  one  never  comes  out.    So  I  don't 
think  it  makes  any  difference,  just  pay  attention 
to  the  GET  time. 

06  12  20  2k    CC  Okay,  Ron.     I'll  pass  that  along. 

CMP  Dun-dun-du-dun-dun-diin-dun-dun. 

CMP  Where  are  the  guys  on  the  Challenger?    Are  they 

going  to  go  out  the  regular  time,  or  are  they 
getting  a  little  extra  sleep  period  here  or 
something? 

CC  I  think  we're  letting  them  sleep  in  again  today. 

They're  getting  up  1  hour  later  than  the  Flight 
Plein  shows;  however,  there's  enough  pad  downstream 
that  we're  planning  on  ascent  at  the  scheduled 
time. 

06  12  22  Ik    CMP  Okay. 

CMP  (HuEnnlng  and  whistling) 

CMP  (Humming) 

06  12  26  19    CMP  I  think  I'll  -  The  STOWAGE  VENT,  ON,  Just  for 

a  little  bit. 

CMP  (Whistling) 

CC  America,  Houston.    We've  got  a  couple  of  -  couple 

of  items  of  general  information,  as  you  come  up 
on  AOS  here  -  LOS.  The  -  we  want  to  remind  you 
to  CLOSE  the  IR  -  - 

CME'  Okay. 

CC    and  UV  COVERS,  before  you  do  any  dump.  After 

LOS,  you'll  have  to  -  - 

CMP  Okay.    Will  do. 

CC  -  -  reconfigure  the  comm. 


Tape  lOkB/k 


CMP  Okay. 


cc 


And  suggest  you  wait  on  the  duiirps,  as  per  the 
Flight  Plan,  until  after  the  photos.    And,  we 
estimate  the  waste  water  dump  will  take  10  min- 
utes. Over. 

06  12  28  19    CMP  About  10  minutes  on  the  waste  water.  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see  -  must  he  ***  LOW  BIT  RATE,  huh? 

Okay,  L0¥  BIT  RATE,  with  DATA  SYSTEMS,  so  no  DSE 
voice.     I'll  write  everything  down. 

06  12  30  27  CMP 

06  12  31  27    CMP  Okay.    I'll  get  up  all  the  hoses  and  stuff  I  put 

down  here. 

CC  Just  ahout  LOS,  Ron.     See  you  later. 

06  12  33  13    CMP  Okay,  Gordo.     Thank  you  much. 

06  12  52  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  37 


06  13  19  Ik    CI4P  (Humming) 

06  13  19  22    CMP  Well,  I've  got  AOS  with  you.  Okay. 

OFF.     (Singing)  ... 

CC  Hello,  America.     Are  you  there? 

CMP  Okay.     We  got  REACQ  and  NARROW  now. 

CC  Okay.     You're  loud  and  clear. 

CC  Ron,  when  it's  convenient  -  - 


CMP 

CC 


HEATERS 


Okay.    I  just  finished  mag   

  I  have  a  couple  of  updates  to  the  Flight 

Plan  


CMP  Okay.     Go  ahead. 


Tape  1QUB/5 


CC  Okay.    On  your  present  page,  there  -  the  UV  solar 

atmosphere  pad,  at  l60:38. 

CMP  Ah-ha.    I  have  it. 

06  13  20  56    CC  Okay.     It's  T-start  of  l60:lH:22;  T-stop  is 

l6l: 26:^7.    And  the  remark  that  goes  with  that  - 
you  don't  need  to  write  this  down  -  "but  the  T-start 
time  is  biased  10  seconds  prior  to  when  we  really 
think  sunset  will  occur.    If  you  see,  visually   


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  105B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUHD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  13  21  13    CC  And  the  remark,  that  goes  with  that,  you  don't  need 

to  write  this  down,  but  the  T-start  time  is  biased 
10  seconds  prior  to  when  we  really  think  sunset 
will  occur.     If  you  see  visually  -  Okay,  my  mistake 
that's  -  the  time  is  10  seconds  after  sunset, 
but  if  you  see  sunset  visually,  you  can  go  ahead 
and  proceed  with  the  UV  COVER,  OPEN,  as  soon  as 
you  see  it.    But  we'd  like  you  to  close  the  UV 
cover  exactly  on  the  T-stop  time  as  written.  Over. 


CMP  Okay.     Let's  see.    I'm  with  you.    We'll  make  sure 

it  gets  closed  at  6l:26:k'J ,  but  we  can  open  it 
as  soon  as  sunset  comes ,  okay?  Even  though  we 
haven't  stsirted  pitching  yet. 

CC  That's  correct,  and  do  you  want  to  read  back  the 

start  time? 

CMP  Hy  start  time  is  l60:Ul:22.     Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  correct;  Ul:22. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     Go  to  l6l:3lt. 

CMP  161: 3U,  okay. 

CC  Okay,  and  the  old  standard  "MAP  CAMERA/LASER 

ALTIMETER  COVER,  OPEN:"  cross  that  out.     A  couple 
lines  below,  at  36,  cross  out  "MAPPING  CAMERA, 
EXTEND,"  and  then  tirni  the  page  

CMP  I  got  them. 

CC  In  fact,  turn  two  pages  to  l63:31. 

CMP  31,  okay. 


Tape  105B/2 


CC  At  163: 31,  write  in  "verify  all  connnand  module  VHF, 

OFF." 


CMP  63:31,  verify  all  VHF,  OFF,  cjkay? 

CC  Okay.    That  completes  it. 

06  13  2k  06    CMP  Goody,  I've  got  a  zodiacal  light  coming  up  there 

sometime;  blue  filter,  no  less.    Oh,  I  started  to 
say,  when  I  was  coming  across  Aitken  -  Of  course 
Aitken  itself  was  down  in  the  shadow,  and  the  Sun 
was  really  shining  on  window  3.    I  took  the  first 
one  at  f/5.6  and  a  1/15,  the  second  one  56,  5.6, 
I  mean,  at  a  -  at  a  1/30,  and  a  third  one  at  a  I/60 , 
and  then  a  fourth  one  at  a  1/25,  and  the  fifth  and 
sixth  ones  I  took  off  to  the  north  -  looking  off  to 
the  north  -  out  of  window  U. 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  And  they  were  5.6  at  1/125.     I  kind  of  doiibt  if  - 

It  might  work,  hut  there's  sure  a  lot  of  glare  on 
the  window.    If  it  can  get  through  that  glare,  well 
then  we've  got  it  made. 

CC  Roger. 

06  13  27  10    CMP  Oh,  the  other  thing  I  was  going  to  tell  you  was 

that  magazine  Quehec  Quebec  -  I  finished  -Uiat  one 
on  111+ . 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  On  that  pass  there. 

CMP  I  don't  know  who  took  my  water  jug,  but  it's  gone. 

CMP  Ok^.    Overboard  drain  is  purged  enough.    I  guess 

we  can  turn  that  off. 


CMP 


'fh&t  big  filter  on  here  -  here.  I  always  leave  the 
hose  and  everything  disconnected  and  stick  it  back 


Tape  105/3 


behind  this  rock  bag.     I'm  afraid  I'll  kick  it, 
break  it  off.    You  know  -  you  know  those  rock 
bags.    I  unzip  those  and  blow  the  air  out  of 
them  every  night,  wake  up  the  next  morning,  and 
they're  full  of  air  again;  just  like  two  big  bal- 
loons down  there. 


06  13  29  08    CC  How  about  that. 

CMP  (Laijghter)  I  don't  know  ... 

CC  You  can  use  one  for  the  pillow  you've  been  missing. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Yes,  that's  an  idea.     I  could  use  that. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America.    If  FAQ's  got  his  finger  on 

the  next  magazine  -  next  Hasselblad  mag,  I'm  going 
to  use  -  save  me  looking  it  up,  here. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  ask  him, 

CC  Ron,  I  -  You're  scheduled  to  use  Mike  Mike  next. 

CMP  —  water  -  Go  ahead,    Mike  Mike.     Okay.  Thank 

you. 

CMP  Did  you  hear  me  sucking  all  the  bubbles  out  of  the  - 

out  of  my  teeth? 

CC  No,  we've  missed  that  pleasure. 

CMP  Good.     Didn't  want  this  VOX  to  be  too  good. 

CMP  Okay.    We  go  to  POO  in  about  2  minutes. 

CMP  Zero  phase  is  going  to  go  rigjit  over  Proclus  ,  I 


mean  Picard  this  time.     Just  as  that  darkness  dis- 
appears there,  if  I  can  still  see  the  change  in  the 
color  on  it. 


CC 


Okay,  Ron.  You  can  put  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO  next 
chance  you  get  and  FAO  advises  there's  no  more 


Tape  105B/1+ 


optional  film  left  on  Mike  Mike.  Everything  that's 
left  on  Mike  Mike  is  scheduled  up.  Over. 

01;  13  3h  kh    CMP  Okay.    I'll  buy  that.    You  know  you  could  even  - 

as  zero  phase  went  right  across  Picard  there,  you 
could  still  see  the  -  the  darkness  on  the  west  - 
let's  see  east  -  on  the  east  from  9  o'clock  around 
to  6  o'clock,  if  north  is  zero. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And.  if  north  is  zero  as  you  look  at  the  crater, 

then  over  about  1  o'clock  there's  some  kind  of  a 
fault  area  in  the  side  of  the  rim,  and  that's 
another  spot  where  the  dark  material  drapes  down 
into  the  rim  and  also  out  on  the  outer  -  outside  - 
outside  of  the  rim.    And  then  you  have  that  same 
type  of  impression  at  about  11  o'clock.  You've 
got  a  black  streak  going  down  inside  the  rim,  and 
then  it  widens  out  going  out  toward  a  little 
crater  out  there  on  the  outside  of  the  rim. 

06  13  36  03    CC  Okay,  -  - 

LMP  Now,  let's  see  -  - 


CC 
CMP 


 you're  scheduled  to  get  a  VERB  1*9  going  now. 

Thank  you.     Okay.    Pitch  is  plus  120.55  ENTER, 
plus  3ltl.00  ENTER,  and  a  plus  ENTER  for  0  yaw  622. 
Press  on.    50  l8.     CMC  caged.  Proceed. 

CMP  Okay;  let's  see.    We're  in  AUTO,  so  we  can 

***teen.    26  on  the  dial 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  change  07  to  8  plias  9  -  i  - 

CMP  ***  VENTS  OPEN.     ...  waste  water  dump.    Miist  have 

been  some  stuff  that's  just  frozen  on  the  -  the 
dump  or  something  and  then  when  the  -  when  the  jets 
fired  too  -  that  kicked  it  loose. 


Tape  105B/5 


p6  13  39  31    CC         .  .  Roger. 

CMP  Maybe  that's  the  particles  of  combustion  - 

b  liming. 

CMP  Minus  0.05  -  degrees  per  half  a  degree  dead  band. 

CMP  Five  up  -  Got  zero,  zero.     Stay  there  ... 

06  13  h3  Ik    CC  Ron,  this  is  Houston.     Check  NOWTf  79  again.  We 

think  you  niight  have  loaded  Rl  and  R2  negative. 
That's  the  way  it  looked  down  here,  anyway. 

CMP  Okay,  I'll  check  that. 

CMP  You  know,  I'm  looking  from  this  position  back 

toward  le  Monnier  -  le  -  le  Monnier  or  whatever. 
Le  -  le  Monnier,  and  you  can  see  the  -  well,  it's 
hard  viewing  it  -  to  see  it  here,  but  your  -  you 
can  see  the  annulus' around  Serenitatis.  The 
demarcation  is  about  the  diameter  of  le  Monnier 
toward  -  westward  frcm  there  and  the  demarcation 
of  the  color  -  the  color  from  this  observation, 
again,  is  a  light  tan.    Darn.    I  forgot  to  get 
that  color  wheel  out,  but  it's  a  darker  tan  than 
the  tan  of  Serenitatis. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 


CMP 


The  color  boundary  is  not  associated  with  any 
rille  or  anything  that  I  can  see.    Doesn't  look 
like  there's  any  topographic  expression  to  it. 


CMP  There  it  is. 

06  13  1*8  l6    CC  Diought  you  might  be  interested,  Ron.    We  just 

woke  up  the  Challenger,  and  they're  all  doing 
fine. 


CMP 


Oh,  hey,  good,  good.  Sounds  like  Robert,  You 
back  on? 


Tape  105B/6 


CC  Yes ,  they  pressed  me  into  service  because  they 

have  -  We  woke  up  the  Challenger  and  they  needed 
someone  on  that  one,  so  I'm  over  here.     Still  cold 
and  cloudy. 


CMP  (La\ighter) 
CC 


But  we've  got  one  blessing.     It's  not  raining  out- 
side. 

CMP  Well,  that's  good  anyhow.    You  know,  even  from  here 

now  I  can  still  see  that  annulus  around  le  Monnier 
or  le  Monnier  or  whatever  it  is. 

CC  I'll  buy  that. 

CMP  Pronounce  those  things  for  me,  you  know  (laughter). 

CC  Are  you  saying  that  annulus  extends  out  into 

Serenltatis,  and  you  see  some,  kind  of  like,  rings 
of  le  Monnier  out  there  in  Serenitatis  like  that? 


CMP 


No,  they  aren't  rings  there  -  they're  Just  a  -  it's 
a  diameter  that  extends  into  Serenitatis  about  the 
dlEtoeter  of  le  Monnier. 


06  13  k9  36    CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

CMP  And  even  from  this  distance.    You  know,  I'm  almost 

to  the  western  edge  of  Crisium,  looking  back  across 
there,  ajid  even  frcan  this  distance,  you  can  still 
see  the  -  the  color  boundary  between  the  two  and 
as  far  -  It  goes  up  north  by  Posidonius,  and  then 
it  kind  of  blends  in  and  it  will  look  -  as  far  as 
I  can  tell  anyhow.    Going  from  Posidonius  on  around 
to  the  north  side  of  Serenitatis.     Of  course,  it's 
a  long  ways  away,  and  I  really  can't  see,  but  I 
couldn't  tell  a  definite  demarcation.     It  just  kind 
of  blended  in  from  the  tan  to  -  to  the  dark  tan. 

CC  Oh,  Roger. 

06  13  50  k2     CMP  Yes.     Bessel  is  the  one  crater  that  really  shows 

up  out  there.     It's  the  biggest  one  in  the  -  in 


Tape  105B/7 


the  Mare  Serenitatis ,  and  it's  also  the  one  that 
has  that  -  an  ejecta  pattern  -  a  fresh  pattern 
ejecta  pattern  around  it  and  that  really  shows  up 
in  the  -  in  the  shallow  Sun  as  you're  looking  back 
towards  the  Sun. 


CC  Roger.  Roger. 

CMP  And  this  is  the  first  time  now,  looking  hack  toward 

the  Sun  where  I've  been  able  to  see  that  ray  from  - 
That's  supposed  to  be  a  Tycho  ray  isn't  it  -  going 
right  across  Bessel  in  the  north-south  direction? 

CMP  Here's  50  l8.     Let's  see.    What  are  we  supposed  to 

be  doing  here? 

CMP  Get  this  squared  away.    Bright  -  coming  in  the 

window  here,  I  can't  see  my  DSKY.     ...  GDC  -  Well, 
this  could  [?]  be  20  going  first.    ENTER  2-2  - 
enter  -  We  use  option  -  - 

CC  Ron,  if  you'll  stand  by  with  us,  we're  going  to 

have  a  roll  maneuver  here  real  quick  for  you,  so 
we  get  the  mapping  camera  out  of  the  Sun. 

06  13  52  35     CMP  Oh,  okay.     Which  way? 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    We  want  a  360  -  We  want  a  360  degree 

roll,  360  roll,  360,  or  000;  your  choice. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  only  20  degrees. 

CC  Yes,  it  would  mean  a  360  roll.    Just  roll  to  360. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right.     That's  what  I  assumed. 

CMP  Fifteen  degrees  to  go.    Will  that  hack  it? 

CMP  How's  that?    Got  me  in  the  clear? 

CC  Ron,  looks  good.     As  soon  as  the  Sun  goes  down, 

you  can  roll  back  to  3^1,  as  required. 


CMP 


Okay. 


Tape  105B/8 


06  13  55  01    CMP  There's  my  NOUN  78's  are  90  -  plus  90  minus  igklk. 

May^e  it  doesn't  make  any  difference, 

CC  Roger.    I'm  looking  at  them,  Ron,  and   

CMP   okay;  that's  minus  05,  plus  50.  Okay? 

CC  Got  it. 

CMP  50  ill  22.00.    Hiat  looks  good. 

CC  Yes,  ri^t  on  the  money. 

CC  Hey,  Ron,  did  you  kill  P20  when  you  grahbed  the 
stick  that  time? 

(MP  1  don't  know.    I  don't  think  so.    Tell  you  what 

I'm  going  to  do.    As  soon  as  the  Sun  goes  down, 
I'll  roll  back  to  all  my  error  needles,  recall 
P20. 

CC  Ron,  they're  saying  that  when  we  -  when  you  roll 

back  to  3^1,  you'll  have  to  restart  P20. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  -  that's  what  I'll  do. 

CC  Okay. 

06  lit  00  Oh    CMP  (Humming) 

CMP  **»  sunset. 

CMP  Can  you  tell,  are  the  pitch  rates  changing? 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Must  have  felt  good  to  be  able  to  fly  it  by  hand 
for  awhile ,  huh? 


Tape  105B/9 


CMP  Covers  are  open  -  Yes.     (Laughter)    Yes,  we're 

going  now.     Okay.    We  got  her  going. 


CC  Good  show,  Ron. 


CMP  Pretty  close,  but  we  made  it. 

06  lit  03  29    CC  Just  of  interest  to  you,  Ron.     We  are  really  pleased 

with  the  way  that  our  visual  display  and  that  worked 
out  last  night  during  the  orbital  science  visual. 
Farouk  was  able  to  feed  me  the  questions ,  and  I  was 
able  to  get  them  to  you.    If  you  have  any  comments 
one  way  or  another,  if  you  don't  want  us  to  do  it 
on  rev  ^4^0  or  not,  let  us  know.    We  plan  right  now 
on  rev  UO  for  those  orbital  science  visuals  to  do 
the  same  thing  going  -  It's  the  visuals  through 
landing  site  down  through  D-Caldera,  and  we're  going 
to  run  the  same  operation,  since  it  went  so  smoothly 
down  here.    We  hope  it  went  that  way  for  you  up 
there . 


CMP  It  sure  did.     As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  like  it  very 

much.     That  kind  of  clues  me  on  what  to  look  for 
as  you're  going  through,  because  you  see  so  many 
things  down  there  -  that  you  -  that  you  kind  of  - 
Frankly,  I  have  a  tendency  to  forget  what  the  main 
thing  that  you're  trying  to  look  for  is. 

06  ik  Ok  27    CC  Good  show.    We're  prepared  to  do  it  on  this  next 

rev,  and  I  guess  you  might  say  even  though  it  isn't 
that  way  in  the  Flight  Plan,  we'll  probably  just 
stand  by  right  straight  through  on  rev  kO  where  you 
-  you  pick  up  at  the  landing  site  and  go  right 
through  D-Caldera.    We'll  be  just  standing  by  for 
that  whole  rev  -  that  rev  -  whole  piece  -  about 
12  minutes,  or  so. 


06  Ik  Ok  1*9  CMP 
06  II+  12  07  CMP 


Okay. 


Okay.  Looked  like  she  worked.  We're  going  0.2  of 
a  degree  per  second,  now. 


Tape  105B/10 


CC  OMNI  Chaxlie,  Ron.    We'd  like  OMNI  Charlie. 

CMP  There  it  is. 

CC  Okay.    And  we  hear  the  crackle. 


CMP 


Yes,  it  sure  did.     I  hear  the  crackles  up  here, 
hut  I  think  it's  a  lot  worse  down  there.    Isn't  it? 


CC  Well,  we  can  live  with  it. 

CMP  Time  for  stuff  that  you  want  to  feed  through  to 

the  IM,  prior  to  -  lift-off? 

CMP  I'm  sitting  on  an  CMNI  waiting  for  lift-off,  I 

think . 

06  lit  15  UO    CC  ...  was . 

CMP  Say  agsiin.  Bob. 

CC  Vty  faiilt.     I  just  kicked  the  peddle  down  here, 

Ron. 

CMP  (Laiighter) 

06  ik  17  1*7    CC  Ron,  just  a  little  information  for  you.    One  of 

those  highlights  of  your  day.    When  you  come  around 
AOS  on  this  next  pass,  they'll  be  -  White  Sands 
will  be  steinding  by  in  a  countdown  on  an  Aero  - 
Aerobee  rocket  for  UV  calibration  shot,  and  if  that 
one  doesn't  go,  they've  got  one  for  tcmorrow,  same 
way. 

CMP  Very  good.    Yes,  I  hope  this  one  works. 

CC  Roger,    We  need  the  calibration  data. 

06  1I+  18  19    CMP  Right. 

06  Ik  2k  25    CMP  Is  it  starting  to  look  pretty  good  on  your  high 

gain  antenna  scale  down  there  -  to  switched  to 
high  gain  yet? 


Tape  105/11 


CC  That's  your  cue,  Ron.    What  -  what  you  think  on  the 

high  gain  meter  . . . 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  You're  at  that  time  in  the  Flight  Plan  where  you 

should  be  able  to  get  it  and  we  should  be  able  to 
get  our  PCM  data. 

CMP  All  right. 

CC  Sounds  like  you've  got  it. 

CMP  Okay.    Worked  like  a  charm. 

CC  Roger.     Boy,  it  sure  does  quiet  down  as  soon  as 

you  get  it  in  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)  It  does,  doesn't  it? 

CC  I  sure  hope  I'm  as  clear  to  you  as  you  are  to  us. 

You  sound  like  you're  jxast  in  the  next  room.  It's 
really  great  comm. 

06  ll+  25  50    CMP  Well,  you  are  really  -  It's  really  great. 

06  ih  30  36    CC  Ron,  we're  about  ready  to  lose  you,  and  at  l6l:30 

you  have  a  maneuver.  We  want  to  make  sure  that 
gets  started  on  time  because  of  Sun  problems  on 
the  camera. 

CMP  At  l6l:30.  Okay. 

CC  Yes,  it's  just  a  matter  of  doing  it  on  time  -  - 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  do  that. 

CC  -  -  or  else  we'll  have  Sun  problems. 


Tape  105B/12 


06  Ik  30  59  CMP 
CC 
CMP 
CMP 

CC 
CC 

06  lit  31  33  CMP 
06  Ik  50  XX 


Okay. 

And  it's  because  the  camera's  out  of  shade. 

I  tell  you  what.    I'll  start  that. 

Yes,  I'll  start  that  as  soon  as  I  get  the  clem  [?] 
cover  closed  on  T-stop.    That  will  give  \is 
a  minute  or  so  there,  too. 

Biat  would  be  real  fine ,  Ron. 

Okay.  We've  got  the  DSE  running,  Ron,  as  per  the 
Flight  Plan. 

Okay. 


BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  38 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  106A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCEIPTIOW 

06  13  1+5  ok  (Music:    Texas  Aggie  Fight  Song) 

06  13  1+6  31+    CDR-LM      I  want  you  to  say  it  first. 

CC  Hello  there.  Challenger.    The  Gold  Team  Flight 

Director  picked  out  the  morning's  selection,  and 
he  said  that  if  can  find  some  maroon  dirt,  today, 
instead  of  orange,  you'll  prohahly  get  a  lot  more 
cooperation  out  of  him. 

CDR-LM      I  figured  the  Gold  Team  might  do  that.    You  know, 
I've  woke  up  to  a  lot  of  pleasant  thoiights,  but 
never  to  an  Aggie  before. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  Gordo,  don't  forget  I'm  a  gold  -  I'm  a 
Boilermaker. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      I  feel  like  one  right  now.     Tell  the  Gold  Team 
Flight  Director  we'll  find  about  -  just  about 
anything  he  wants  today. 

CC  Okay;  I'll  do  that.    The  Challenger  looks  as  good 

as  ever.     No  problems  at  all  through  the  night, 

CDR-LM     That's  outstanding.    How's  America? 

CC  It's  in  the  same  shape.    Just  clicking  along. 

Ron's  been  up  for  a  few  hours  now  and  really 
gathering  up  the  data. 

CDR-LM      Outstanding,  Gordo. 

CC  Challenger,  the  name  of  the  game  today  is  to  stay 

with  the  -  the  EVA  prep  time  line.     We're  not 
going  to  talk  much  to  you  -  We'd  like  -  except  to 
bug  you  a  little  and  stay  on  your  back  to  keep 
with  the  time  line,  if  at  all  possible  -  We'd  like 
to  get  out  on  time.  Over. 


Tape  106A/2 


CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo.    That's  Taeen  our  motive  all  along, 

and  we  will  stay  with  it.  As  of  right  now,  we're 
1  hour  behind.    Is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative.    Although,  if  you  stay  on  the 

normal  time  line,  that's  fine  with  us.  We  don't 
need  to  gain  any,  but  we  just  don't  want  to  lose 
ai^  -  from  where  we're  starting  now. 

CDR-Uyi     Yes.    Understand.  Understand. 

LMP-LM     Good.    How  are  you  this  morning? 

06  13        52    CDR-M      Houston,  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Challenger. 

CBR-m      Okay,  Gordy.     Crew  status  is  good,  in  case  you 

hadn't  noticed.    And  again  I'm  not  going  to  -  We 
haven't  kept  an  itemized  accounting  of  the  food  - 
burning  up  blanks  on  the  paper  to  do  that.  But 
we  have  ate  -  have  eaten,  pardon  me  -  We  have 
eaten  just  about  everything  in  the  various  meals. 
I  guess  the  shrimp  was  the  only  thing  we  didn't 
really  eat.    And  we've  been  drinking  a  lot  of 
water  and  all  the  juices  and  tea  and  stuff,  so  I 
think  we're  in  pretty  good  shape  there.  The 
commander  had  a  Seconal  last  night ,  and  he  slept 
3  good  and  3  intermittent  hours.    IMP  had  no 
medication  and  had  6  good  hours  of  sleep.  If 
you've  got  some  lift-off  time  data,  well,  I'll 
copy  it. 


CC  That's  affirm.     Okay;  start  with  -  for  rev  38. 

Time  is  162:22:52.    Rev  39  is  l61t:21:2U; 
166:19:55;  168:18:27;  170:16:59;  172:15:31.  That 
should  have  been  rev  1*3,  and  read  back  starting 
with  rev  38. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  rev  38:     l62:22:52;  l61t:2l:2lt;  166:19:55; 

168:18:27;  170:16:59;  172:15:31.  And  what  is  our 
present  rev? 


Tape  IO6A/3 


CC  That's  a  good  question.     Let's  see  here.  We're 

working  on  rev  37.  Ron  just  went  by  10  minutes 
ago  on  rev  37. 


CDR-LM  Okay. 

06  1I+  01  32    CDR-LM      Gordy,  we're  pressing  on,  hut  if  you've  got  any 

good  words ,  like  news  and  what  have  you ,  where 
we  are,  we'd  appreciate  it. 


CC  Okay.    There  hasn't  heen  a  lot  of  news,  but  I'll 

read  you  what  we've  got.    President  -  former 
President  Triman  is  still  holding  on.     His  heart- 
beat, breathing,  and  temperature  all  became 
unstable  yesterday,  but  then  he  improved  again.  A 
Methodist  minister  in  Kansas  City  said,  "He's  a 
rugged  giiy  who's  hanging  in  there  and  he's  going 
.  to  make  it."    The  headlines  were  full  of  reports 
of  the  find  of  orange  dirt  and  the  rest  of  your 
adventures  yesterday.    Internationally,  the  U.S. 
and  North  Vietnam  held  intensified  secret  peace 
talks,  and  Henry  Kissinger  prepared  to  return  to 
Washington  probably  this  afternoon ,  I  understand , 
after  a  final  session  with  Le  Due  Tho .    The  French 
press  said  a  compromise  was  in  the  works  on  the 
withdrawal  of  North  Vietnamese  troops  from  the 
South.    The  Houston  Rockets  lost  to  Buffalo  up  in 
Buffalo  last  night,  but  the  hockey  team,  the  Aeros , 
took  a  6  to  4  win  over  the  Alberta  Oilers.     In  - 
Really,  that's  about  it  on  the  news,  except  maybe 
for  the  weather,  which  finally  broke.    The  cold 
front  cleared  out  the  drizzly  rain  last  night, 
and  for  the  first  time  since  you've  launched  - 
that  I  can  remember  anyway  -  we've  been  able  to 
look  up  and  see  the  Moon,  directly.     It's  a  pretty 
sight  as  always.    That's  not  much  of  a  report, 
but  that  *  s  about  all  we  have .     Over . 

CDR-LM      Okay;  thank  you.     What's  the  date  today? 

CC  It's  Wednesday  -  let's  see  -  Wednesday,  the  13t,h 

of  December. 


CDR-LM      Thank  you. 


CC 


Right  now,  it's  about  01:35  in  the  afternoon. 


Tape  106A/lt 


CDR-LM      Okay;  just  take  a  quick  peek  up  there.     I  can't 
really  see  too  much  of  the  North  American 
continent.     South  America  looks  pretty  good.  And 
it  might  "be  my  eyeballs  rather  than  the  -  the 
clouds  up  there,  but  it  looks  like  most  of  the 
clouds  are  up  into  the  north-central  part  of  the 
southwestern  or  southeastern  United  States . 

CC  I  have  a  satellite  picture  here,  and  that's  about 

the  way  it  looks. 

CDR-LM      Well,  it's  sunny  and  pleasant  on  the  valley  of 

Taurus-Llttrow.  And,  Gordo,  what  is  our  Sun  angle 
going  out  today? 

CC  I'll  get  you  an  answer  on  that.     Couple  of 

questions.    First  of  all,  the  Surgeon  would  like  a 
biomed  rate.    And  they  were  wondering  how  your 
hands  feel  this  morning? 

CDR-LM      Hands  are  in  good  shape,  Gordo.     No  problem. 

CC  Okay;  that  sounds  good.    Sun  is  getting  up  there 

about  33  degrees  now. 

06  ll;  06  22    CDR-U4      Okay;  we'll  go  a  mild  midleft ,  and  both  PLSSs  air 

have  been  topped  off. 

CDR-U4      Gordy,  the  IMP  isn't  hooked  up  right  now.     He  will 
be  shortly.    So  stand  by  on  the  biomed. 

CC  Okay.    Okay;  I  have  a  few  words  on  the  command 

module  trajectoiy  that  might  be  of  interest, 
although  it  doesn't  affect  your  procedures  any. 

CDR-LM      Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    The  com  -  the  command  module  orbit  somehow 

is  missing  all  the  mascons .     It's  not  de  - 
degrading  into  a  circular  like  we  thought  it 
would.     It's  just  staying  where  it  was,  about  a 
70  by  50.    And  so  what  we're  planning  on  is  an 
extra  little  maneuver  about  1  hour  prior  to  the 
normal  plane  change,  which  will  lower  the  command 
module  altitude  at  the  plane  change  mode  to  - 
to  60.     This  will  be  about  a  11-feet-per-second 


Tape  IO6A/5 


RCS  burn.    And  then  Ron  will  do  the  plane  change 
at  the  normal  time,  but  it'll  be  little  bigger 
than  -  that  we  had  planned.    I  think  the  last  half 
was  about  365  feet  per  second  for  plane  change. 
And  we've  checked  the  consumables.    That  puts  the 
RCS  right  on  the  pref light  line.    He's  been  running 
about  4  or  5  percent  above  it.     That  will  use  up 
that  pad  there,  put  him  back  to  nor  -  nominal  on 
RCS,  and  on  the  SPS ,  that  puts  you  right  down  on 
the  CSM  rescue  redllne;  so,  really  no  problem. 
In  good  shape,  consumablewise .  Over. 

06  ih  08  38    CDR-LM      Okay.     Soiinds  like  a  good  rendezvous  posture. 

06  Ik  kl  31    LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston.    You  got  any  updates  to  the  EVA 

cuff  checklist?  . 


CC  No,  I  don't  think  there  is.  Jack.    Although  I  do 

have  a  wri  -  write-in  for  the  Lunar  Surface  Check- 
list, and  one  that  you  really  don't  need  to  write 
in  on  the  prep  card.  Over. 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    Page  5-10  on  the  Lunar  Surface  Checklist. 

The  reason  for  this  change  is  to  prevent  cabin 
pressure  from  increasing.     It  got  up  to  5.7 
yesterday.    And  it  also  -  will  also  prevent  water 
sep  spindown  like  happened  yesterday,  if  you 
happen  to  have  the  hose  -  the  return  hose  blocked 
against  the  wall  outlet  there.    The  change  is  to 
write  in  on  the  upper  left  corner  of  5-10,  just 
prior  to  "SUIT  ISOL,  ACTUATOR  OVERRIDE  (SUIT 
DISCONNECT)."    Write  in  "PRESSURE  REGS  A  and  B  to 
EGRESS."    And  then  down  five  lines,  where  it  says 
"CABIN  GAS  RETURN,  EGRESS,"  change  it  to  "CABIN 
GAS  RETURN,  AUTO."    Verify.  Over. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     At  the  top  of  the  page,  "REGS  A  and  B 
to  EGRESS,"  and  then  five  lines  down,  "CABIN  GAS, 
RETURN,  AUTO.  Verify." 


CC 


That's  right.    And  the  only  other  change  I  have 
is  -  has  to  do  with  matching  -  just  like  yester- 
day, -  matching  the  purge  valve  to  the  OPS  to 


Tape  106a/6 


maximize  the  OPS  capability.    And  we  can  just  call 
you  when  you  get  to  that  point.    It's  -  Or  if  you 
want  to  write  it  down,  you  need  211,  and  Geno 
needs  208, 


LMP-LM      Okay.     We've  got  that. 
CC  Okay.    That's  all. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     I  guess  we  play  the  cuff  checklist 
just  as  planned,  with  the  exception  of  the  bag 
numbers  which  have  changed,  the  collection  bag 
numbers.    I  have  more  or  less  repaired  the  - 
sample  bag  holder  on  my  camera.     It's  taped  on 
there  pretty  well  with  good  tape,  believe  it  or 
not,  off  the  fruit  bag.    I  -  I  don't  know  that  we 
have  any  other  outstanding  hardware  problems.  I 
think  in  terms  of  sampling.  Gene  and  I  will  try 
to  shift  the  emphasis  in  the  mantle  area  to 
fragments  that  are  different  from  the  gabbros  that 
we've  sampled  fairly  well,  I  think,  up  to  now, 
that  presumably  are  subfloor  materials.    You  might 
pass  that  word  on  emd  see  if  they  agree  with  us. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     We  copy  that.     And,  Jack,  if  you  guys 

are  at  a  convenient  place,  sit  and  listen  while 
you're  doing  some  of  your  stuff.     Let  me  read  up 
the  planning  for  EVA  3  and  the  summary  of  what  we 
think  we  have  so  far. 


IJyiP-LM      Go  ahead. 

06  Ik  U5  26    CC  Okay.    I'll  read  here  from  this  thing  Just 

verbatim.    It  says,  "EVA  3  continues  to  follow 
essentially  the  nominal  premission  pleua.  Main 
objectives  continue  to  be  the  North  Massif; 
station  6,  7;  Sculptured  Hills;  and  Van  Serg 
Crater.    In  view  of  the  extensive  observations  of 
the  dark  mantle  and  main  -  and  plains  subfloor 
unit  on  EVA  1  and  2,  particularly  there  before 
station  5»  the  relatively  -  the  relative  priority 
of  station  10  is  reduced,  so  that  station  10 
becomes  a  flexible  station  as  time  allotment  is  a 
reserve,  possibly  providing  more  time  at  the 
earlier  station,  if  desired.     However,  mantle  and 


Tape  IO6A/7 


block  sampling  at  station  10  are  still  important 
objectives.    Block  pack  constraints  are  not  nearly 
as  tight  as  they  were  yesterday,  guys,  and  so  we 
can  be  more  flexible  in  reshuffling  station  times 
if  we  need.    ¥e  probably  won't  be  coming  up  against 
option  walkbacfcs  like  we  did  at  station  k. 
Closeout  time  at  the  LM  has  been  increased  by 
20  minutes  to  make  the  closeout  less  rushed  and 
to  allow  for  potential  ALSEP  troubleshooting. 
It  is  ciirrently  planned  to  take  this  time  from 
station  6,  7." 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  IO6B/I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  15  IT  28    CC  America,  Houston.    Don't  want  to  interrupt  your 

eat  period,  tut  Just  would  like  word  from  you  on 
how  the  SIM  bay  configuration  went.    Did  the  UV 
cover  come  open?    We're  standing  by  on  that  Aerobee 
launch . 

Cm>  Affirm.     UV  COVER  is  OPEN.     I  think  SIM  bay's 

all  squared  away. 

CC  Roger.    Thajik  you. 

CMP  Sunrise  was  -  that's  7  seconds,  I  think  -  after 

we  closed  both  covers  (laughter).    Good  timing. 

CC  Roger.     Okay,  I'll  keep  you  posted  during  your  eat 

period  of  how  the  Aerobee 's  coming.     It's  due  to 
launch  at  l62:10,  and  we  need  to  get  the  61t-kilobit 
data  here.    As  soon  as  we  get  that,  we'll  be  giving 
it  a  GO  for  launch,  but  we  did  want  to  get  your 
word  on  the  cover. 

CMP  It's  OPEN. 

06  15  18  Ul    CMP  It's  OPEN  and  verified  on. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    And  they're  in  the  coiint  at  White 

Sands . 

CMP  Okay. 

06  15  21  35    CMP  Okay,  frame  number  110  of  mag  Oscar  Oscar  was  taken 

from  window  1  off  toward  Lomonosov.     You  could 
really  see  the  swirls  in  Marginis.    They're  - 
Trying  to  compare  them  with  the  same  type  of  swirls 
back  there  in  Arabia. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

CMP  Let  me  take  the  old  binocs  and  look  out  there. 

It's  a  long  ways  away. 


CC 


Roger.    What  are  you  looking  at  again,  Ron? 


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Tape  106B/2 


06  15  22  31    CMP  These  are  the  swirls  looking  off  across  the  - 

Marginis  toward  Lomonosov  and  -  let's  see,  what's 
that  other  sea?    Big  -  big  crater  Just  to  the 
northwest  of  the  Neper? 


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Okay,  let  me  look  at  it  here. 
About  the  same  size  as  Neper. 

I  got  a  poor  map,  Ron.    All  I  show  is  -  next  to 
Neper,  you  have  the  Border  Sea  which  is  northwest 
of  Neper,  called  the  Border  Sea.    I  don't  know  if 
that's  the  proper  term  you  want  or  not. 

Yes,  that's  -  that's  -  that's  what  I  mean.     I  think 
that's  -  Mare  Marginis  is  a  round  one  up  there.  I 
think  that's  what  it  is. 

Yes,  I  think  so,  too.     I  -  Soon  as  I  get  ahold 
of  

And  in  that  case  -  Yes,  my  map  doesn't  go  up  that 
way,  either,  so  -  or  the  one  I  have  out. 


CC  Okay.  Standby. 


I  think  Marginis  is  a  circular  basin. 

Yes ,  Mar  -  Marginis  is  the  name ;  right . 

And  then.  Just  north  of  that  is   

You  got  a  big  -  big  one  called  Goddard   

Yes,  and  then  north  of  that  is  -  Yes,  okay.  But 
in  the  case  of  Marginis  -  there's  a  brand  new  crater 
Just  in  the  northeast  quarter  of  it  -  I  mean 
northwest  quarter. 

Okay.    Brand  new  car  -  crater  in  the  ...  Marginis. 

It  almost  looks  like  that  -  in  the  northwest 
quarter  of  Marginis,  and  it's  about  -  let's  see, 
I'm  guessing  -  100-kilometer  size,  probably. 

Okay.    We  copy  that   


Tape  IO6B/3 


CMP  Hey,  no,  50-kllometer  size. 

CC  Roger.     You've  never  seen  that  before  on  any  of 

the  maps? 

CMP  But  you  know,  it's  -  that  -  Well,  no.    I've  got  to 

look  on  the  map.    I'm  sure  it's  there,  because 
that's  what's  causing  all  the  swirls  going  across 
Marginis . 


CC 


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CC 


Okay,  do  you  see  a  color-texture  difference  between 
the  swirls  across  Marginis  there? 

Yes,  the  color  -  the  texture  is  hard  to  -  you  just 
can't  get  any  texture  out  of  it.    There's  a  dark  - 
a  dark  gray.    And  then  the  swirls  seem  to  be  around 
this  dark  gray  -  the  dark  gray  areas.    The  swirls, 
of  course,  are  a  light,  light  -  light,  light  tan. 

We'd  like  -  Stu  and  I  would  like  to  know,  do  you 
think  the  swirls  are  ejecta  from  that  new  crater 
you've  seen? 


06  15  26  20    CMP  Well,  yes.     The  swirls  in  that  one  crater  seem  to 

be  in  Marginis,  and  I  hope  that's  Marginis.  I 
want  to  look  at  my  map  here  in  a  minute  and  look 
for  sure,  but  they  seem  to  be  emanating  essentially 
radial  from  that  bright  crater  -  going  out  across 
the  mare . 


CC  Roger.    Just  a  reminder,  Ron,  we  don't  want  to 

tear  you  away  from  your  window  if  you  don't  want 
to,  but  this  is  your  eat  period. 

CMP  No,  that's  all  right.     I'd  better  grab  - 

CC  And  we're  T  minus  3  White  Sands  and  counting, 

CMP  Better  munch  on  something  here.     Hey,  good. 

CC  Ron,  if  you  were  in  the  simulator  right  now,  I'd 

have  you  adjust  your  mirrors. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Yes,  so  you  could  tell  which  -  where 

I'm  looking,  huh? 


Tape  IO6B/I1 


CC  No,  sir,  so  you  coiild  look  -  you  know  what  we  used 

to  adjust  the  mirror  for  down  at  the  simulator  all 


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the  time, 

(Laughter)     Yes,  I  know  what  you  mean.    Uh  huh! 

I  guess  what  I'm  saying  is  I  need  a  mirror  down 
here  on  ny  console  for  those  of  us  in  the  peanut 
gallery  here. 


CMP  (Laughter) 

06  15  28  1+9    CMP  Okay,  the  crater  I  was  talking  about  was  Al-Biruni 

is  the  one  that's  got  the  swirls  across  coining 
from  it.    And  then  off  in  the  northwest  corner, 
just  outside  the  rim,  that's  a  very  bright  crater. 
It  shows  up  on  this  -  contingency  chart.     So  that 
was  Al-Biruni.    Goddard's  got  a  lot  of  -  of  swirls 
in  it  also.    No,  wait  a  minute.     Goddard  was  the 
one  I  was  talking  about,  not  Al-Biruni. 


Okay.    Goddard.     Roger;  got  you. 


CMP  What?    Yes,  Goddard  is  the  one  I  was  talking  about. 

Crater  size  is  more  relative  on  that  one,  and  there 
weren't  any  craters  on  the  floor  so  that  had  -  that 
had  to  be  Goddard. 


Okay,  we  just  had  lift-off  at  White  Sands. 
Hey,  good!     Let's  hope  she  keeps  going. 


06  15  32  26    CMP  You  know,  I'm  looking  north  of  -  along  Crlsium. 

Okay,  yes;  there's  Pi card  and  Peirce.     And  you  get 
the  -  same  -  same  pattern  that  looks  kind  of  like 
a  swirl.     Looks  the  same  -  same  type  of  albedo  as 
a  -  as  a  swirl  with  light  places  and  dark  places. 
The  only  difference  being  that  you  can  definitely 
tell  that  these  are  eject a  from  Proclus  because 
the  pattern  is  somewhat  radial,  you  know,  from 
Proclus  itself.    And  then  you've  got  the  same 
thing,  there's  a  crater  up  on  the  north  -  north 
rim  -  - 

CC  Roger.    We  got  you. 


Tape  106B/5 


CMP  -  -  ...  Crisium,  Just  outside  of  it  is  about  a 

50-kilometer  crater  again.     And  it's  a  very  bright 
one.    And  there  the  rays  cross  the  Proclus  swirls  - 
or  rays .    Here  you  have  to  definitely  call  them  - 
call  them  rays  instead  of  swirls,  and  yet  they  look 
the  same  way.    And  the  only  -  the  only  distinction 
is  that  in  Crisium  they  go  essentially  radial. 
Th^  have  a  direction  to  them,  whereas  the  ones 
over  there  in  Margin! s  and  -  next  to  Fermi  or 
somewhere  off  in  that  part  of  the  country  are  - 
They  don't  have  any  particular  direction  to  them. 

06  15  37         CC  Okay,  Ron.    White  Sands  just  called  us  and  they 

got  a  good  data  take  and  their  -  Preliminary  report 
shows  a  good  report  on  Aerobee . 

CMP  Ah,  perfect. 

06  15  hi  39    CMP  You  know,  I'm  looking  out  of  window  2  now,  and  you 

can  definitely  get  three  different  color  text\;ires 
on  the  thing.    You've  got  the  light  tan  of  Seren- 
itatis,  and  then  you've  got  the  -  an  arinulus  ring 
that  stops  somewhere  in  about  the  middle  of  the 
two  ridge  systems  that  go  around.     And  then  you 
come  down  south  in  the  landing  site  area  and  the 
two  dark  things  change  -  Ah,  I  can't  quite  see 
it  anymore.    Then  landing  site  is  a  darker  -  more 
of  a  gray,  and  it  go  -  goes  on  -  goes  on  up  - 
There's  a  subdued  crater;  there's  kind  of  a  -  The 
rilles  go  on  up  there,  and  then  there's  a  filled-in 
crater  Just  to  the  west  of  one  that's  about 
20  kilometers  in  diameter.    And  that's  about  where 
the  dark-gray  material  ends,  right  on  the  edge  of 
that  crater.    And  then  you  run  in  to  the  annulus 
that  goes  all  the  way  around  Crisium.     I  mean  - 
not  -  not  Crisiimi  -  or  around  Serenitatis. 

CC  Serenitatis ,  Roger . 

CMP  Ouch ! 

06  15  hS  33    CMP  Frame  110  and  111  were  taken.  Just  now,  out  of 

mag  Oscar  Oscar  -  one  of  the  landing  site,  and 
ohe  north  of  the  landing  site,  trying  to  get  the 
color  distinction  between  the  three  of  them  there. 


Tape  IO6B/6 


CC  Roger;  we  copy. 


06  15  hi  hi    CC  Ron,  do  you  have  your  Flight  Plan  handy?  I've 

got  an  update  and  stuff  like  that.    I  don't  want 
to  interrupt  eating.    If  you  don't  have  it,  we'll 
get  it  after  the  eat  period. 


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Okay.    Just  a  second  here;  I'll  get  it. 


06  15  kd  31    CMP  Okay,  113,  ll^i,  and  U5  were  taken  on  the  western 

edge  of  Serenltatis.    I'll  get  unwoiind  from  the 
cord  here  in  a  little  bit  and  I'll  (laughter). 
You  know  if  we  design  another  spacecraft,  we  got 
to  have  something  with  a  -  so  you  don't  have  to 
be  tied  up  to  this  crazy  cord. 


Roger.     Copy  that.    Hey,  look,  there's  no  hurry  - 
hurry  on  the  Flight  Plan.    Just  keep  doing  what 
you  want,  and  I'll  call  you  at  about  l62:l+0. 

Let's  see,  where  are  we  now?    I've  got  - 


06  15  1+9  lit    CC  We're  at  152:29. 


Oh,  that's  right.    Yes.    I'm  not  doing  anything. 
Okay,  I'm  ready.     Go  ahead. 

Okay,  what  we  want  to  do  is,  we  have  to  take  a  look 
at  the  data  longer,  so  at  l62:U5,  we  want  to  put 
in  "MAPPING  CAMERA,  RETRACT"  at  that  point. 
MAPPING  CAMERA,  RETRACT. 


CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  that  will  delete  it  over  at  l63:05.  You'll 

Just  delete  it  from  that  point. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  the  zodiacal  light  photo  pad,  which  is  over 

there  at  l63:10  about  -  is  l63: 10:^9  there. 
That's  163:10:1+9. 


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Okay.    Zodiacal  light  T-start  163:10:1+9. 


Tape  106B/7 


CC  Okay,  the  only  reason  I  want  to  get  that  up  to 

you  is  that  "MAPPING  CAMERA,  RETRACT"  there  at  U5  - 
We  have  to  take  a  good  long  look  at  that  data, 
you  know.    You  know  the  prohlem  we're  having  with 
it. 

06  15  50  25    CMP  Oh,  yes,  uh  huh.  Okay. 

06  15  51  23    CC  Okay,  Ron,  if  you're  near  there,  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

06  15  51  30    CMP  HIGH  GAIN  is  AUTO. 

06  16  01  06    CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Roger.    Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  You  want  the  laser  altimeter  on  while  we  try  to 

retract  that? 

CC  That's  a  negative,  Ron;  Just  let  it  run. 

CMP  Okay.    Will  do. 


CC 


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CC 


They're  going  to  stay  running  until  over  at 
163 : 35  or  so  is  where  they  -  they  go  OFF,  and 
we're  -  we're  just  going  to  retract  the  camera. 

Okay .  La  -  laser  altimeter  still  putting  out  good 
data?    As  far  as  we  know,  anyhow? 

Yes ,  the  only  problem  we  had  was  when  your  toe 
caught  it  that  one  time.    It's  been  good  all  along, 


06  16  02  06    LMP  Okay. 

CC  Ron,  we'd  like       TANK  1  FAN,  ON,  please. 

06  16  OU  02    CMP  Okay.  TANK  1  are  going  ON. 

CC  Roger. 

06  16  Oil  56    CMP  Okay;  let's  try  to  retract  the  old  mapper,  huh? 

CC  Roger.    We're  ready.    You  were  watching  it. 

06  16  05  03    CMP  Okay.    TRACK  EXTEND,  OFF;  5,        -  Well,  let's  see, 

I'll  start  it  at  I5  -  15:15;  13,  ih  - 


Tape  IO6B/8 

06  16  05  18    CMP  GO. 

06  16  05  22    CMP  Got  a  barber  pole. 

CC  Okay,  we  see  motion,  Ron. 

CMP  Very  good. 

CC  Ron,  we've  got  one  change  to  the  Flight  Plan.  We 

should  have  got  it  to  you  sooner.  At  l63:ltO,  we 
want  to  change  that  VERB  1+9  maneuver,  because  we 
want  the  lunar  sounder  to  look  at  the  SEP  at  the 
landing  site. 

CMP  163: UO,  okay.  Go. 

CC  Okay,  let's  change  this  to  roll,  115;  pitch,  297; 

yaw,  0, 

Okay.    Roll  of  115;  pitch,  297;  yaw,  0. 


CMP 


06  16  06  21    CC  Roger,  Ron. 

06  16  09  12    CMP  MARK  it.    Barber  pole. 

CC  Mark  it.  Roger. 

06  16  09  22    CMP  I  don't  mean  barber  pole.    I  mean  gray  (laughter) 

Well,  whatever  it  was,  it  changed. 


CC 


Yes,  looks  like  it's  all  the  way  in. 


06  16  09  39    CMP  Yes. 

06  16  12  23    CMP  The  -  Since  we're  having  a  little  trouble  with 

that,  why  don't  I  put  the  TRACK  EXTEND  switch 
to  OFF  on  that  one? 

CC  That's  okay,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  Just  remember  it's  retracted. 

06  16  13  11    CMP  Houston,  America. 


CC 


Go  ahead,  Ron. 


Tape  106B/9 


CMP  Okay.    Looks  like  we're  running  a  bit  -  a  bit 

beyond  what  it  might  take  to  do  this  here.  Why 
don't  you  check  with  Bob  Mercer  and  see  if  we 
can  get  by  without' using  the  -  Call  that  one, 
that  frame  -  that's  -  the  protect  frame.  Either 
that  or  how  real  is  the  ko  expose  -  usable  exposures 
on  the  front  of  the  film?    How  much  protection  - 
how  much  room  is  there  to  -  gravy  -  before  he 
came  to  his  calibration  films? 

CC  Okay,  we're  checking  on  that,  Ron. 

06  16  Ik  12    CMP  Okay.     That,  or  he  may  want  to  skip  one  of  the 

60-second  exposures  in  there  somewhere,  you  know. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

06  16  lit  39    CC  Ron,  otjlt  film  record  down  here  indicates  you've  got 

three  more  frames  on  there  than  you  need  for  the 
zodiacal  light,  or  do  we  have  a  bad  number  somewhere? 

CMP  You  may  have.    Because  I'm  -  let's  see,  ready  to 

take  -  yes,  I've  only  got  11  more  pictures  on  here. 
I'm  sitting  on  number  30,  ready  to  take  picture 
number  30. 

CC  Okay,    Understand  you're  sitting  on  30,  ready  to 

take  number  30.    And  you've  got  11  pictures  left. 

CMP  Yes;  so  that's  30  -  11  pictures,  the  way  I  count 

it.    Unless  there's  some,  you  know,  a  little  gravy 
between  the  Uo  usable  frames. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    There  are  hk  useful  frames  on  that  mag, 

so  you  can  go  from  30  to  kk  in  getting  data. 

CDR  Ah  ha!    Okay,  that's  good.    We  can  get  the  whole 

works ,  then . 

CC  Roger. 

06  16  15  51    CMP  Outstanding. 

06  16  19  15    CMP  Okay,  Charlie  3  and  Bravo  3  are  ON.    Alfa  3,  and 

Bravo  3  are  OFF.     It  should  have  been  Charlie  3 
and  Dog  3  are  ON. 


Tape  IO6B/10 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that,  Ron. 

06  16  19  h6    CMP  Okay. 

END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  lOTA/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROimD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 


06  ik  h6  27    CC  But  if  6/7  requires  more  time  when  we  get  there, 

we  can  borrow  it  from  one  of  the  other  stations  ; 
I  guess,  in  particular,  station  10,  probably. 
As  the  initial  activity  then ,  we  are  going  to 
have  to  take  explosive  package  5  with  us,  and 
we'll  stick  it  mder  the  IMP  seat,  and  I'll 
remind  you  in  real  time  when  we  get  down  on  the 
ground  on  that  one.     And  nijmber  5>  3  pound,  will 
be  deployed  at  station  10,  and  again  I'll  remind 
you  about  that  in  real  time,  so  don't  -  you 
don't  have  to  bother  to  write  it  in  on  your 
checklist.    Planned  traverse  proceeds  as  normal. 
We're  expecting  to  spend  about  an  hour  and 
20  minutes  at  stations  6  and  7,  and  the  sugges- 
tion is  that  we  may  end  up  wanting  to  spend 
that  totally  at  the  split  boulder  at  station  6 , 
but,  of  course,  the  option  still  exists  to  visit 
more  than  one  place  and  sample  other  boulders  if 
it  seems  feasible  and  attractive  and  desirable. 
They  are  suggesting  additional  500-millimeter 
photographs,  especially  if  it  seenis  that  we  can 
use  those  to  docijment  tracks  and  sources  of 
docu  -  of  the  sampled  boulders;  for  instance, 
at  stations  6  and  1.    We  are  continiiing  to  hold 
the  nominal  1+7  minutes  at  station  8  -  that  is , 
8A,  and  we  still  think  that's  as  good  a  place 
as  any  to  sample  the  Sculptured  Hills .     Station  9 
is  still  nominal  30  minutes ,  but  in  view  of  the 
similarities  to  the  in  -  to  station  k,  we're 
anticipating  a  possible  desirability  to  remove 
time  from  station  10  to  enlarge  station  9 ,  but 
that  will  have  to  be  a  real-time  decision, 
based  upon  what  we  find  at  station  9-     Station  ii7 
-  station  10  continues  nominal.    We're  still 
interested  in  sampling  the  blocks  and  also 
interested  in  -  in  trenching  to  try  and  see  - 
if  we  can  say  something  about  the  dark  mantle  - 
light  area  relationship  and,  perhaps,  the  nominal 
coring.    We're  going  to  -  we're  going  to  deploy 
EP  5  there;  and,  other  thaji  that,  they're  basic- 
ally the  same.     If  we  have  the  time  during  that 
closeout,  and  you'll  know  if  we  have  enlarged 
the  closeout  somewhat,  of  the  LM,  based  on  our 
experience  the  last  two  nights ,  particularly  for 
dusting;  but  also,  if  time  permits,  in  that  time 


Tape  lOTA/2 


we  might  try  and  get  the  -  tise  up  the  extra 
double  core,  if  there  is  one,  in  the  dark  mantle 
near  the  IM  or  do  some  trenching  near  the  IM. 
But  that's  only  if  time  permits  at  the  very  end, 
depending  upon  how  the  consumables  run  out.  They 
want  to  call  attention  to  two  particular  things 
here.     One,  since  you  guys  reaJ.ly  haven't  gotten 
any  very  big  rocks  so  far,  they're  recommending, 
they  say  here,  and  I  quote:     "The  value  of  large 
individual  samples  has  been  demonstrated.  We 
reccmmend  that  several  football-sized  samples  of 
a  ijniform  igneous  rock  be  collected  at  station  9 
or  10 , "    I ' 11  pass  that  on  as  that .  Another 
point  of  Interest  is  the  1-  to  20-  millimeter 
size  section  of  the  regolith ,  the  dark  mantle, 
the  llthology.    Then,  any  observations  or  collec- 
tions you  can  make  pertinent  to  that  would  be  of 
interest  in  trying  to  determine  the  relationship 
of  the  dark  mantle  to  the  subfloor  units  of 
gabbro  underneath.     Two  short  questions  which 
I'll  ask,  which  I  hope  -  hope  you  can  answer  in 
just  a  very  few  words.     One  of  them  is  a  yes 
and  no  answer.     One,  we  -  they  can't  find  the 
geophone  photos  specifically  called  out  in  the 
transcript.     There  is  probably  a  little  bit  of 
garble  at  that  point ,  and  the  people  in  the 
back  room  will  be  very  happy  if  you  could  say 
once  and  for  all.  Jack,  that,  yes,  you  did  get 
the  geophone  photos .    Over . 

06  Ik  50  03    IMP-M  Yes. 

CC  Roger.     And  the  second  one  concerns  the  l/l+-pound 

charge  which  we  deployed  on  the  way  in  last  nigiit. 
Two  questions  on  that.     It  appears  to  us  from 
yoTir  voice  transcript  that  we  weren't  fast  enough 
on  it  at  the  time  that  that  may  be  deployed  closer 
to  the  ALSEP  than  the  one  you  deployed  on  the  way 
out.     And  we'd  like  an  impression  on  that.  And, 
number  2,  you  mentioned  that  you  placed  it  in  a 
depression.     We'd  like  some  feeling  for  that 
depression  in  terms  of  how  much  of  a  danger  that 
bomb  -  charge  might  play  to  the  AI-SKP  when  i  L  j^oci; 
off.     If  it's  in  a  depression  of  any  sort,  Ihcy'rt^ 
probably  pretty  well  protecting  the  AljCl'ir.  Any 
comment  on  those  two  questions?  Over. 


Tape  IOTA/ 3 


06  ih  50  UT'.  CDR-LM      Well,  the  second  one.     It's  not  in  a  major  de- 
pression.    But  it  is  a  -  maybe  a  -  it's  a  little 
ditch,  maybe  a  third  of  a  meter  deep.     I  imagine 
it  will  help  a  little  bit.    That's  why  we  picked 
it.    Just  a  second. 

LMP-LM      I'm  not  sure  we  understand  your  first  question 
very  much. 

CC  Okay.    We  have  a  feeling  that  when  you  -  - 

CDR-LM     Bob,  don't  you  have  the  mileages? 

CC  Roger.     But  there's  again  some  confusion  on  that. 

CDR-LM      Can't  you  -  can't  you  pinpoint  that? 

CC  Yes,  and  those  mileages  also  seem  to  indicate 

that  we  had  that  callout .     Remember,  you  drove 
back  by  and  you  said  you  saw  the  flag,  and  then 
you  said  you  actually  saw  the  charge  inself  first , 
And  It  was  some  time  after  that  you  said  you 
deployed  the  charge .    And  we  have  the  opinion 
from  both  that  and  the  mileage  that  you  probably 
deployed  the  second  charge  closer  to  the  ALSEP 
than  the  first  one.    Do  you  have  a  -  any  sort  of 
a  feel  for  that? 

06  ik  51  ^3    CDR-LM      Oh,  yes.     I  remember  saying  that,  but  that's  when 

I  did  a  big  360,  and  Jack  was  out  of  film.  And 
I  just  lined  up  to  take  that  picture  with  him  up 
in  the  background.    And  when  I  said,  hey,  I  saw 
the  charge  first.     I  was  really  -  Don't  take  that 
comment  too  strong. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-LM      As  far  as  position  of  it.  Bob,  I  -  I  -  we're 

looking  for  them  out  there  now.     As  a  matter  of 
fact,  we  can't  see  them  from  here. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  let  it  go  at  that.     And  that's  all 

the  questions  and  comments  we  have  on  today's 
traverse.     We'll  have  a  few  real-time  things  on 
the  surface,  which  I  won't  bother  you  with.  A 


Tape  107A/1+ 


possible  fix  to  the  siirface  electrical  properties 
and  a  possible  trip  back  to  the  surface  gravimeter, 
which  is  still  having  its  problems.     But  I'll  talk 
with  you  guys  in  real  time  on  those  when  you  pet 
on  the  surface,  rather  than  bothering  you  with 
them  now. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  Bob.     How  far  should  that  last  charge  be 
from  the  ALSEP? 

CC  They  want  it  about  300  to  UOO  meters. 

CC  And ,  Gene ,  you  ...  0.2  for  range  when  -  - 

CDR-LM      Bob,  I  ...  -  - 

CC  -  -  . ..     got  back  to  the  LM.    And  I  guess  the 

question  would  be.  Did  you  ever  go  through  zero 
on  the  way  back  to  the  LM?    If  you  are  at  0 .  - 
if  you  were  at  0.2,  and  we  think  9  -  092  was  the 
bearing,  then  the  LM  is  right  where  we  thought 
it  was,  and  we  were  just  a  little  confused  by 
our  distances.     Just  doesn't  quite  -  they  don't 
quite  hold  together. 

CDR-LM      No,  I  don't  think  I  ever  went  through  zero,  be- 
cause I  initiated  at  the  SEP. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM  And,  no,  I  didn't  go  through  zero. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-LM  I'm  positive. 

CC  We  copy  that.     Okay.     We'll  work  on  that. 

CDR-LM      Is  this  something  to  think  -  Yes,  this  is  some- 
thing to  think  about.     It's  not  that  far  out 
there.     You  know,  if  there  is  finy  question  about 
that  damaging  the  ALSEP,  it  -  it's  Jur,t  hard 
for  us  to  recall  how  close  they  were.     And  we 
sort  of  thought  you  had  them  pinpointed  for  us . 
But,  if  you  want  it  3  to  hOO  meters,  you  miplit 
think  about  a  late  ...  -  - 


Tape  IOTA/ 5 


CC  No.    We  thought  about  that.    We  don't  -  we  don't 

want  to  do  that.  Ko,  we  don't  want  to  do  that. 
So  we'll  take  care  of  it.  Don't  worry  ahout  it 
now.    That's  all  we  have.    Press  on  with  the  prep, 

LMP-LM      Boh,  I  can  -  Hey,  Bob;  this  is  Jack.     I  can  see 
the  charge  with  the  binocular .     It ' s  out  almost 
behind  a  rock  that's  between  us  and  the  LM,  but 
I  can  see  it.     I  (laughter)  -  I  mean,  a  rock  be- 
tween it  ajad  the  LM.     I  can't  give  you  any  idea, 
though,  how  far  it  is. 

CC  Okay . 

06  ih        5U    LMP-LM      No,  it's  the  one  off  to  the  left.     It's  the   ...  - 

Hey,  Bob.     Let  me  say  again,  I  think  we  ought  to 
emphasize  the  exotic  looking  fragments  on  the 
dark  mantle.    And  we  ought  to  try  to  make  sure 
that  we  look  at  a  variety  of  rocks  from  the  North 
Massif.     I  think  we  saw  the  major  rock  types  on 
the  South  Massif  yesterday,  but  we  really  didn't 
spend  a  lot  of  time  ranging  along  the  front  there 
to  verify  that  completely.     The  other  comment  on 
the  1-  to  20-millimeter  size  fraction.    There  isn't 
an  awful  lot  of  that  in  the  dark  mantle.  That's 
one  of  the  striking  things  about  it . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.    And  we'll  talk  -  - 

LMP-LM      But  we'll  keep  our  eyes  open. 

CC  -  -  I'll  talk  with  the  back  room  about  stations  6 

and  T.     We'll  get  with  you  on  that  when  you  pet 
there.    And  press  on. 

06  ih  57  38    LMP-LM      Houston,  Challenger.     I  was  BIOMED,  RIGHT,  there 

for  about  10  minutes,  in  case  you're  curious. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    And  it  looked  good. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob.     I've  got  them  both.    And  the  last  one 
we  deployed,  which  I  think  is  the  eastern  one  - 
easternmost  one,  is  definitely  farther  out  than 
the  first  one  we  deployed.    And  you  know,  at  this 
distance,  it's  awful  hard  by  looking  at  Jack's 
geophones .    What ' s  your  -  I  got  to  give  you  at 
least  300  meters.  Bob. 


Tape  107A/6 


CC  Okay,  Geno.    Bob's  in  the  back  room.     I'm  sure 

they're  listening,  euid  we  got  that'. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  I  -  I've  got  both  of  them  with  the  raonocular 
now.    And  the  -  the  second  one,  the  last  one  ve 
deployed,  is  quite  a  bit  farther  out  than  the 
first  one . 

CC  Okay.     I  think  that's  what  they  want  to  hear. 

CDR-LM     Gordo,  I  guess  it's  half  again  or  maybe  even 

twice  as  fax  away  as  -  as  the  first  we  deployed. 
So  we're  going  to  forget  it. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.    That  sounds  good. 

LMP-LM     And,  Gordo,  I'm  going  off  the  air  also  here  for 

about  10  minutes.    It'll  speed  things  up  a  little 
bit . 

CC  Okay .    Fine . 

06  15  12  50    CDR-LM     Houston,  Challenger.    CDR's  now  back  on, 

CC  Okay,  CDR.    You're  loud  and  clear. 

06  15  27  1+2    LMP-IM      Okay,  Houston.    This  is  the  LMP  from  Challenger. 

How  do  you  read? 

CC  Jack,  you  are  loud  and  clear. 

06  15  1+5  58    LMP-LM     Okay,  Houston.    I'm  ready  for  battery  management, 

and  the  ED  BATs  are  37-2    And  I'm  going  to  POWKl^ 
AMP,  PRIMARY,  and  PM  [sic],  HIGH. 

LMP-LM      Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read  Challenger? 

CC  Okay.    We  have  high  bit  rate  now.    You're  GO  on 

the  batt  ery  management . 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

06  15  hQ  13    CC  Okay.    We've  got  that.    We're  ready  for  POWER  AMP, 

OFF,  and  PCM,  LOW. 


Tape  lOTA/7 


06  15  1*9  U8    CDR-LM  Bob,  CDRs  PDR  -  PRD  is  170^+3 .  170^3. 

CC  Copy  that ,  Gene . 

06  15  50  hh    LMP-LM  And  Jack's  is  2U138. 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that. 

06  15  53  36    LMP-LM  Okay,  Houston.     CDRs  OPS  is  5900;  LMPs  is  61OO. 

CC  Okay .     Copy  that .    Very  good . 

06  16  00  58    LMP-LM  Gordy,  the  forward  hatch  is  unlocked. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-LM  I'm  sorry.  Bob. 

06  16  09  31    CDR-LM  Bob,  CDR  is  starting  on  with  the  PLSS  donning. 

CC  We  copy  that ,  Geno .    And  we  copy  the  forward 

hatch  \itilocked,  right? 

CDR-LM      Yes.    Sure  did. 

06  16  13  36    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We've  lost  down-links  with 

you  guys.    We've  got  a  very  weak  signal.  You 
might  check  your  configuration  up  there,  please. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston  in  the  blind.     We've  lost 

down-links  with  you.     Please  check  your  comm  con- 
figuiration.  Over. 

06  16  lU  06    LMP-LM      Roger,  Bob.     We're  checking. 

CC  Okay,  Challenger.     We  have  you  back  loud  and  clear. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston.    That's  -  Okay.    It  looks  like  I 

might  have  hit  the  YAW  knob  on  the  steerable  with 
the  PLSS. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

06  16  15  11    CC  Okay.     And,  Jack,  if  you  want  to  check  those 

again  for  numbers,  it's  PITCH  of  li;  and  YAW  of 
8,  08. 


Tape  lOTA/8 


06  16  15  29    LMP-LM      Bob,  that  doesn't  Jive  with  what  my  needles  say. 

I 've  got  a  20  and  -  and  50 . 

CC  Leave  them  there.    We'll  check  with  you. 

LMP-LM     That's  minus  50. 

06  16  18  20    CC  And,  Jack,  this  is  Houston.    What's  yo\ir  SIGNAL 

STRENGTH  meter  reading  there  on  your  high  gain, 
next  time  you  get  around  to  it? 

LMP-LM     We're  at  3.8.    It's  not  CLUite  as  good  as  it  was. 
We  had  about  3.9j  I  think. 

CC  Okay.    Ed  thinks  maybe  you  want  a  side  and 

he's  suggesting  a  PITCH  of  lU  -  lU  -  and  a  YAW 
of  plus  8.  Over. 

06  16  18  U6    LMP-m     Okay.    I'll  try  it. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  107B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

06  16  2k  07    CC  Roger,  Ron.    We're  probably  going  to  lose  you  early 

here.     You're  looking  good  as  you  go  around  the 
horn.     We  went  around  the  room,  and  everything's  - 
all  systems  are  GO.    Just  a  reminder  on  this  next 
back  side  that  there  is  no  recording  so  there  will 
be  no  DSE  recording  of  voice  on  this  back  side. 

06  16  2k  28    CMP  Oh,  okay.    Thank  you  much. 

06  16  U9  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  39 

CMP  Well,  let's  see  now. 

06  IT  21  06    CC  America,  Houston. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

06  17  22  16    CMP  Houston,  America  here.     Sorry,  but  I  didn't  have 

my  hat  on. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     No  problem.     We've  got  a  Flight  Plan 

update  whenever  you're  ready. 

CMP  Let  me  get  the  cameras  squared  away  here  first , 

okay? 

CC  Okay.    Just  give  me  a  call. 

CMP  I've  been  looking  out  the  window,  and  I  took  -  1 

took  the  four  before  120  on  the  horizon  across 
Arabia  -  with  an  80  millimeter. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Mike .     Mike  Mike .     There  he  is .     That  was  on  mag  - 

mag  -  mag  Oscar  Oscar,  by  the  way. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Did  you  see  Arabia? 


CMP 


Yes,  it  was  a  pretty  -  pretty  good  hit  at  it.  It 
doesn't  really  -  for  -  You've  got  to  study  it. 


Tape  107B/2 


CC  Okay.     We  don't  want  to  talk  you  into  something. 

CMP  (Laughter)  That's  right. 

CMP  ECX[sic]  20  intervalometer ,  f/U,  1/250  ... 

19  frames.    Okay.    We're  starting  with  1^3.  Mike 
Mike. 

06  17  25  50    CMP  Okay.    All  set  for  a  Flight  Plan  update  here. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    It's  a  couple  of  short  items.  Let's 

see.    First  of  all,  at  l6U:35,  just  anywhere  in 
that  area,  we'd  like  you  to  service  your  biomed 
harnesses  if  it's  convenient.    We're  getting  pretty 
ratada-ratty  data  on  you,  now. 

CMP  Oh,  I  just  put  a  new  one  on  last  night. 

CC  Okay.     We  think  you  need  to  service  it  with  some 

jelly  or  something. 

CMP  ...  A  sponge,  I  guess,  huh?    I  guess  they  could 

dry  out.  Okay. 

CC  Roger.     Okay  the  next  Flight  Plan  update  is  at 

166:36. 

Cl'IP  Okay.  Go. 

CC  Add  a  VERB  ^+9  maneuver  to  lunar  sounder  HF  target 

attitude  at  l66:kO.    The  angles  for  the  VERB  k9 
maneuver  are  as  follows:    lU2,  269,  359- 

06  IT  27  25    CM?  Okay.     That's  to  be  -  Okay.     It's  a  VERB  U9  to 

l42,  269,  and  359,  and  that's  for  the  pass  where 
we  pull  film  through  there,  huh? 

CC  Roger.     l66:kO  is  the  time  of  that  maneuver.  And 

it's  after  -  There's  a  note  after  that  -  resume 
nominal  Plight  Plan. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  That's  it.     You've  got  everything  up  to  date.  And 

you're  aware,  I  assume,  that  we  have  a  total  alter- 
nate Flight  Plan  laid  out  if  we  should  have  to 
jettison  the  an  -  high  -  the  antennas. 


Tape  107B/3 


06  IT  28  17    CMP  Yes,  you  bet.     I  don't  know  what  it  is  yet,  but 

(laughter)  -  - 

CC  iind,  Ron,  FAO  -  just  a  reminder  on  that  maneuver 

I  Just  gave  you  -  to  start  it  at  -  at  36  to  be  in 
attitude  by  l6lt:llO.    Say  again;  l66:kO. 

CMP  Okay  ,  I66 .    Okay .    Figured  it  was  ,  but  -  okay ,  I 

guess  that  -  I  stay  in  that  attitude,  then,  I 
guess  that's  what  it  is,  isn't  it?    Through  the 
best  of  the  SEP? 

CC  Affirmative .' 

CMP  Best  of  the  receive  only?  Okay. 

CC  And  just  for  your  information,  your  buddies  on  the 

surface  are  out  watlking  around  the  Rover  right  now 
on  television. 

CMP  Hey,  good  deal. 

06  17  30  10    CMP  Tacq^uet  up  to  Bessel  E  or  Men  -  Tacguet  to  Menelaus 

Go  right  along  the  pass.     Calderas  change  at 
Camion{?)  Rilles.    Across  -  2.8,  isn't  it?  1/250. 
The  terminator's  there. 

06  IT  3^  ^9    CMP  Well,  I'm  just  trying  to  match  my  color  wheel  with 

Crisium,  and  nothing  matches. 

06  IT  3h  54    CC  Roger.     Seems  a  few  other  people  have  found  that, 

too. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  Hey,  Ron.     You're  already  aware,  I'm  sure,  that  - 

with  this  different  attitude  you've  got,  your  look 
angle  on  D-Caldera  photos  here  are  going  to  be 
pretty  -  pretty  marginal,  and  CM-5 ,  I  guess,  is 
still  the  best  window;  But  it's  -  I  guess  we're 
going  to  go  ahead  and  get  them,  but  it  may  be 
marginal . 

06  IT  35  21    CMP  Okay.     I'll  see.     I  was  -  I  was  wondering  about 

that,  really. 

06  IT  39  10    CMP  You  know,  the  Crater  Dawes  has  got  -  starting  from 

the  top  going  down  the  rim,  there's  a  kind  of  a 
light-tan  layer,  it's  a  concentric  layer  that  c.'^as 


Tape  IO7B/J4 


all  the  way  around;  and  then  you  come  into  a 
lighter  -  it ' s  almost  to  the  white  and  it  looks 
like  on  the  hills  and  all  around  the  landing  site. 
And  this  first  layer  goes  down  maybe  -  let's  see, 
as  you  look  at  the  total  distance  in  there,  about 
a  third  of  the  distance;  and  then  the  white  layer  - 
concentric  layer  that  goes  all  the  way  around,  and 
this  is  in  the  western  wall  I'm  looking  at  now,  anrl 
it  goes  down  to  -  to  about  a  half  of  the  distance, 
not  quite  half  of  the  distance  from  the  top  of  the 
rim  down  to  the  bottom.    And  then  the  lower  portion 
of  it,  the  lower  half,  a  little  better  than  a  half 
really,  is  kind  of  a  tannish  gray  -  has  a  tannish- 
gray  albedo  to  it.     It's  all  streaked.    And  close 
to  the  bottom  of  the  layer,  the  bottom  of  the 
crater  itself  is  -  filled    with  -  Well,  oddly 
enough,  it's  the  seune  color  of  material  that's  - 
that's  laying  aro\ind  the  edges  of  the  crater.  It 
has  some  radial  rings  around  it ,  irtiich  gives  an 
indication  of  a  subsidence  of  some  kind,  or  a 
sliding  down  the  hill.    That's  really  the  first 
crater  where  I've  been  able  to  see  any  sort  of 
layering  in  the  walls.    Now  the  first  layer  on  the 
north  side  and  also  on  the  south  side,  in  the  dark 
brownish  layer  of  the  thing,  you  can  see  parts  that 
are  jagged,  Jagged,  and  sticking  out.     In  other 
words,  there's  a  slight  change  in  slope  in  it. 
That  looks  like  it's  a  very  steep  slope,  which 
would  indicate  that  it's  a  fairly  eon  -  compacted 
type  of  material  in  the  first  layer.    And  then  the 
slope  changes  in  the  white  layer  on  down  a  little 
bit  more.    And  the  Trtiite  layer  sems  to  sort  of 
combine  and  maintain  the  same  type  of  slope  as  the 
dark-gray  stand  -  layer  -  the  bottom,  or  from 
halfway  down  to  the  bottom  of  the  crater. 

06  17  h2  00    CC  Boger,  Ron.    Did  you  tie  in  some  of  that  ejecta 

material  to  the  layer  at  the  very  bottom  of  the 
crater,  like  an  overturned  flap  or  something? 


CMP  Yes.    That's  what  it  looks  like. 


CC  Roger.    Got  you. 

06  17  h2  17    CMP  The  ejecta  material  is  about  the  -  Yes,  that  the  - 

Okay ,  here  we  come  on  -  Well ,  it ' s  an  odd  angle , 
but  I  guess  it  will  work.     Good.     I  want  to  get 
some  of  the  -  30  and  let's  see.    The  first  one 


Tape  107B/5 


started  at  Tacquet ,     I'm  going  to  whip  her  back 
one  and  get  one  of  -  back  the  other  way,  because 
that's  kind  of  a  change  in  -  in  the  color.  The 
color  of  the  area  changes  right  at  the  Tacquet 
Rille  to  -  to  the  brown  -  browns.     This  -  I  forgot 
my  little  "gouge,"  here.     It  goes  north  of  Malinius 
[sic],  doesn't  it? 

06  17  ^3  oh    CC  You  come  up  Tacquet,  and  then  you  go  right  near 

Bessel  E,  up  in  -  you  follow  those  ridges  along 
into  Bessel,  there;  Bessel  E,  rather. 

CMP  Follow  the  -  follow  the  rilles?  Okay. 

CC  You're  north  of  Meilinius  [sic],  Menelaus  E  [sic]. 

CMP  Okay. 

06  IT  ^3  32    CC  And  you  cross  Just  a  little   

CMP  That's  definitely  a  volcanic  field. 

CC  -  -  bit  south  of  Sulpicius  Callus.     Say  again,  Rc 

CMP  Okay,  south.     I  was  going  to  say  that  -  that's 

definitely  a  volcanic  field  or  a  deposition.  And 
it's  -  You  have  relief  with  it  from  Tacquet  on  up 
to  even  Men  -  Menelaus . 

CC  Roger.  Understand, 

CMP  Bob,  you  say  we  cross  to  the  south  of  Sulpicius 

Callus? 

CC  Yes,  just  about;  just  a  little  south  of  Sulpicius 

Callus  and  the  Haemiis  Mountains .     Cross  the  Haemus 
Mountains,  and  then  you're  rigiht  over  D-Caldera. 

CMP  Okay.     I  think  I  got  D-Caldera  awhile  back  with  a 

250  lens,  too. 

CC  Good  show. 

06  17  hk  51    CMP  Now,  these  Haemus  Mountains  have  the  same  color 

tones,  and  what  have  you,  as  the  -  that  field  from 
Tacquet  to  -  to  Menelaus. 


Tape  107B/6 


06  17  k5  ho    CC  When  you're  a  little  bit  past  D-Caldera,  you  -  on 

to  -  There's  a  line  between  the  Sea  of  Vapors  mare 
and  the  Apennine  Moimtains,    That's  where  you  change 
to  f/2.8, 

CMP  Okay.    Yes,  that  is  pretty  good.    We're  going  to 

hit  D-Caldera,  suiyhow. 

CMP  (Cou^)    Biere's  a  Cannon  Rille,    You  know,  there's 

a  dark  halo  crater  just  to  the  vest  of  D-Caldera. 
It's  about  1^0  meters  or  so  in  diameter,  if  my 
scede's  right.     It's  about  1/U  of  -         of  the 
size  of  D-Caldera. 

06  17  UT  i*3    CC  Okay,  Ron,     I  don't  show  that  on  ny  map. 

CMP  Okay.    I  think  it  might  be  on  the  picture  there. 

I'm  not  sure.    I'll  have  to  get  a  better  look  at 
it  before  - 

06  17  h^  57    CC  Okay.    And,  as  you  cross  this  mare  that  you  -  just 

to  the  west  of  D-Caldera,  you'll  switch  -  as  you 
get  across,  and  up  into  the  Tannines,  you'll  switch 
to  f/2.8. 

CMP  Okay,     Bqy,  that  Cannon  Rille' s  sure  got  something 

sticking  up  on  the  west  side  of  it,  there.  They 
ought  to  take  a  look  at  that  picture.    Looks  like 
a  spire  sticking  up  on  the  left  side,  because  it 
creates  a  tr^endous  shadcnr.    And,  it's  a  perfectly 
round  -  Suppose  that  could  be  a  crater?  (laughter). 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Yes.    Might  be  a  crater.    2,8  at  1/250. 

06  17  1+8  51+    CC  Ron,  you  want  f/2,8;  and  then,  up  here  when  you 

get  to  the  Apennine  Mount edns ,  the  line  between 
the  Apennine  Mountains  and  -  the  mare  up  there, 
you  want  to  go  to  1/125- 

CMP  Okay.    1/125.  Okay. 

CC  Stay  at  1/250  until  you  get  across  the  Apennines 

there. 

CMP  Man,  oh  man.    Look.     I  think  those  are  the  La  Hire 

flows  or  something  out  across  there.    They  really 


Tape  107B/7 


stick  up.    You  can  sure  see  the  flow  fronts 
the  -  You  know,  in  Imbrixim,  you  can  see  the  flow 
fronts  and  -  the  rilles  a  lot  better  than  you 
could  in  Serenitatis.    They  must  be  bigger. 

06  17  50  12    CMP  2.8  at  1/125- 

06  17  50  56    CMP  Eratosthenes  is  just  -  being  -  picked  up. 

CC  Roger.    Roger.    The  terminator  is  going  to  go  right 

across  it  on  the  next  pass,  right  across  the 
eastern  edge  of  Eratosthenes. 

CMP  Oh.    Okay.    That's  all  we're  going  to  get. 

06  17  51  28    CC  Okay,  Ron.     Due  to  the  lunar  sounder  saturating 

from  the  SEP,  we  would  like  to  change  the  attitude i 
and,  right  now,  go  to  that  -  the  VERB  1+9  maneuver 
attitude  that  we  called  up  for  l66:36.    We'd  like 
you  to  go  that  now.  Over. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     The  old  SEP  is  saturated.  Let's 

see.     What  was  the  attitude? 

CC  Okay.     I  can  read  it  to  you.     It's  roll  -  - 

CMP  h2   

06  17  51  55   CC  -  -  ik2,  269,  359. 

CC  Okay,  CMC  in  AUTO;  ...  Proceed. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  108A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  16  20  27    LMP-LM     Bob,  I'm  in  AUTO  right  now,  and  it's  holding  at 

3.8  with  those  numbers  that  I  gave  you.     I  can't  - 
if  I  go  to  the  numbers  that  Ed  suggests ,  I  get 
down  to  about  0.3  and  it  won't  lock  up  in  AUTO. 


CC 


Okay,  we  noticed  that.  Let's  just  leave  her  there, 
please.    Go  to  SLEW,  please. 


CDR-LM     VOX  SENS  at  MAX.    A  T/R,  and  B  is  RECEIVED.    On  I6, 
your  breaker  open  and  connect  to  PLSS  comm.  Okay, 
connect  the  PLSS  comm  and  then  put  your  breaker  in. 


LMP_LM  *** 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Your  PLSS  comm  -  AUDIO  breaker,  CLOSED. 

Okay,  PLSS  PTT  MAIN  right,  verify,  and  go  MODE  A. 

LMP-IM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     Okay,  I  got  you.    You'll  get  the  tones  on,  vent 
flag,  press  flag,  and  0  flag. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Call  Hoiiston  and  give  them  your  0^  reading. 

LMP-M     Okay,  Houston.    This  is  the  LMP  on  MODE  A  and  my 
oxygen  is  9^- 

06  16  2k  kS    CC  Copy  that.  Jack,  you're  loud  and  clear. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     I'm  getting  a  little  bit  of  a  squeal  on  the 
initiation  of  my  transmission. 

CDR-LM     Yes.    I  hear  that  too,  but  it's  -  it's  loud  and 
clear  here.     Okay,  I'm  going  mine  open. 

CC  And  LMP  PLSS  data  looks  good  down  here. 


CDR-LM 


Yes.  There's  the  tone.  There's  a  press  flag  and 
a  vent  flag. 


LMP-LM     And  you're   


Tape  108A/2 


CDR-D4     And  Og. 

I24P-IiM      ...  you're  loud  and  clear. 

Cm-m     Okay.    C&ay,  I  cannot  hear  Houstrai  but,  Houston, 
this  is  CDR  with  91  percent. 


CC 


Roger,  CDR  and  LHP.  We  read  the  cm  loud  and 
clear.    We  have  good  IMP  medical  data. 


LMP-M     Okay,  you're  loud  and  clear  and  they  got  good  data 
on  me. 

Clffi-IM     (Stay,  you  go  B  and  I'll  go  A. 
I*G>-I«     Okay ,  going  t o  B . 
06  16  26  50    CDR-IM     <ft:ay,  how  do  you  read  me? 

lMP~m     You're  loud  and  clear.    Houston,  this  is  the  IMP 
in  Bravo.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Roger-    We  read  the  IMP  loud  and  clear. 

CDR-Ul     Ok^,  Bob.    And  how  me? 


CC 


Read  you  loud  and  clear  also.  Gene.  And  we  have 
good  medical  data  on  you.  Gene. 


CDR-IM  Okay,  Jack,  let's  go  AR. 

IMP-m  Okay,  going  to  AR. 

CDR-IM  Okay,  Houston,  how  do  you  read  CDR? 

CC  Loud  and  clear  on  AR. 

LMP-IM  And  the  IMP? 

CC  Also  loud  and  cleetr  on  AR. 

CDR-IM  Okay,  Jack,  SQUELCH  VHF  B,  full  decrease. 

LMP-IM  Decrease. 


Tape  108A/3 


CDE-LM      Okay.    At  l6,  our  LCG  PUMP  is  CLOSED.    At  l6 , 
CABIN  REPRESS  CLOSED,  verify. 

LMP-LM      It's  verified. 

CDE-LM      SUIT  FAN  DELTA-P,  OPEN,  and  SUIT  FAN  number  2, 
OPENED. 

LMP-LM      OPEN  and  OPEN. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  we  should  get  a  light  in  about  1  minute. 

Stand  by  for  that.    Okay,  SUIT  GAS  DIVERTER  to 
PULL  -  these  are  "verify"  -  PULL-EGRESS. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  PULL-EGRESS. 

CDR-LM      CABIN  GAS  RETUEN,  EGRESS. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston.    You  want  us  to  go  by  the  checklist 
now  on  the  ECS  system? 

CC  Stand  by.    Roger.    As  per  the  checklist. 

LMP-LM  Say  again.    You  didn't  come  through. 

CC  Roger.    As  per  the  checklist. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  EGRESS  on  CABIN  GAS  RETURN. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  that's  SUIT  GAS  DIVERTER,  EGRESS,  CABIN  GAS 
RETURN  -  EGRESS. 

LMP-LM      EGRESS  and  EGRESS. 

CDR-LM      And  SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF  -  AUTO. 

LMP-LM  AUTO. 

06  l6  28  07    CDR-LM      Okay,  OPS  connect  -  you're  first.     SUIT  ISOLATION, 

ACTUATOR  OVERRIDE,  and  SUIT  DISCONNECT. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  that's  done. 

CDR-LM      Your  hoses  are  stowed? 


Tape  108A/U 


IMP-IM     They're  stosre4, 

CDR-U4     Okay,  connect  your         feose,  aad  I'Ji  get  you  a 
number  211. 

liff-LM  Let  me  turn  around  so  I  4c«i't  -  - 

CDR-IM  Okay. 

WP-m  That'll  do  it.    Keep  poking  this  water  hose  here. 

Crn^m  211  is  yours. 

im^m  gp8  is  mine. 

Qm^Ui  Okay,  the  pin  is  in.    Ifs  closed,  you're  in  LOW 
PLOW, 

U^^IM  Selieve  it  or  mt,  it  still  works. 

CU^^IH  Yoy  want  any  mope? 

UfP^m  Yes,  I  do. 

Cm^UA  ^ay,  ^re  you  through  with  it? 

UfB-m  ...  I  thtijk  so,  Right  now.  ... 

CDR=fIM  I         get  down  there,  if  you  can't.  Jack. 

Llff-IM  .,,  I  can  reach  it,    I  got  it,  I  can  reach  it. 

CDR-LM     efeay,  let's  ggt  y©ur  OPS  hose.    OPS  hose.  OPS 

hos^,  it*e  wqy  ^jotm  here.    That's  your  water  hose. 
Herd's  yoT«r  OPS  iiose.    Now,  let's  get  the  dust 
coyer  pn  it.    OPS  hose  is  going  in.    I  verified 
its  locked  and  tb#  lock  -  lock  is  in.    Cover  is  up, 
aM  we'll  take  anpther  look  at  them.    Okay.  Okay, 
we  got  the  UASTSm  ALABMs . 

liMP-EVA    ...  3  aaps.    Sluggish  ope. 

Cm-m     But  it's  in  and  it's  lock  -  and  locked,  and  you're 
on     the  ^  that's  hi^.    That's  low.    You're  on 
WV  FW)W.    Pin  is  in  mi  everything's  locked. 
Okay, 


Tape  108A/5 

LMp-LM      »**  ...  valve  closed,  locked.     That's  all  those. 

Install  purge  valve.    DIVERTER  VALVE  -  VERTICAL. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Okay,  you  want  it  on  VERTICAL,     Pick  up  my 
OPS  hose, 

LMP-LM      It's  your  OPS  hose  time. 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Where's  the  top?    I'll  put  yours  on  top. 

That's  fine.     It's  as  good  as  anything. 

I'm  not  sure  it  makes  any  difference.  Okay,  over 
and  locked,  and  dust  cover,  verify. 


CDR-LM  Okay.    And  the  comm?  ... 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM  That  one's  locked,  verified.    Here's  purge  valve, 
and  it's  number  208,  I  hope. 

LMP-LM  No,  you  wanted  a  211. 

CDR-LM  No,     I  wanted  208.     I  want  208  and  you  want  211. 

LMP-LM  No.    I'm  sorry.    That's  what  I  copied  down. 

CC  Roger.    211  for  the  LMP 

CDR-LM  Verify  that,  will  you.  Boh? 

CC  211  for  the  LMP. 

LMP-LM  That's  right.  That's   

CDR-LM  Okay.    That's  what  he's  got. 

LMP-LM  Somehow  I  copied  the  wrong  one. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  give  me  206. 

LMP-LM  Same  thing  we  had  yesterday. 


Tape  108A/6 


CDR-LM     Well,  I  think  I'd  remeiaber  frcaa  yesterday,  and 

that's  vhat  I  thou^t  Gordy  said.  Okay.  That's 
in,  locked,  verified. 


IMP-LM  On  LOW? 

Cm-m  On  LOW  and  the  pin's  in.  Okay. 
LMP-U4  check  this  one.    Good,  ... 

CDR-IM  Okay. 

IMP-LM  All  right. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    We  just  had  oiir  drink.    You  can  turn  drink  - 
DESCENT  WATER,  OFF, 


IMP-IM     Okay,  DESCENT  WATER  is  OFF. 

CDR-m     And  my  hand  loop  is  all  prepared.    You  get  the 

scissors  and  the  ETB.  I  think  we  finished  up  with 
that . 


D4P-U1     They're  in  there. 
06  16  32  05    CDB-IM     Okay.    Position  mikes. 
IMP-IM  Okay. 

CDR-LM     Okay.    Here  we  go  again,  let's  take  a  look  at  it. 
PLSS  FAN  will  come  ON.    Don  helmets  and  LEVAs. 
Drink  hag,  position.    Lower  LEVA  protective  visor, 
and  secure  tool  harness  strap,  and  we'll  verify  the 
following  -  let's  verify  the  following,  then  we'll 
go  ahead  and  put  your  PLSS  FAN  ON,  and  get  your 
helmet,  and  you  can  put  mine  on. 


LMP-LM     Okay,  going  thro\igh  one  more  time.     ...  connector 
and  it's  locked.    And  yoTir  OPS  is  locked,  covered. 
You  don't  have  water  yet  -  exhaust  is  locked, 
covered.    Inlet  is  locked,  covered.    Purge  is 
locked  and  LOW. 


CDR-IM  Okay. 


LMP-LM 


And  vertical  our  DIVEHTER  VALVE. 


Tape  108A/T 


CDR-LM      That's,  right.    Okay,  let  me  take  a  check.  Comm 
is  locked  and  covered.    OPS  is  locked  -  and 
covered.    PLSS  exhaust  is  locked  and  covered. 
Inlet  is  locked  and  covered.    You're  vertical. 
Purge  valve  is  locked  and  low.    Okay,  let  me  get 
your  heljnet  here. 

LMP-LM     Let's  look  at  one  thing  here,  Geno. 


CDR-LM 


Let  me  put  this  up  here.  Get  it  out  of  the  way, 
because  that's  half  the  battle. 


JMP-m      ...  look  in. 

CDR-LM      That  -  that  shade;  then  you  can  check  it. 

LMP-LM      That's  what  my  . . .  like.    They're  all  stiff. 

•  Mine  -  mine  is  a  little  stiff,  too,  it'll  come. 
If  ,  you  pull.    If  need  be,  I  can  pull  it  down  for 
you. 

CDR-LM      Yes.  Okay. 

LMP-M      I  can  get  that  one  up  another  one. 


CDR-LM 


Okay.  As  soon  as  I  get  this  overhead,  you  can  put 
yoTir  PLSS  fan  on. 


LMP-LM     Okay,  now,  let's,  watch  out  for  all  your  parapher- 
nalia there.    Can  you  pull  -  that  -  pull  that  stuff 
away  from  there?  Okay. 

06  16  31^  U5    CDR-LM     Well  -  ...    Let  me  -  let  me  undo  this. 

LMP-LM      ***  problem? 

CDR-LM      I  Just  want  to  mate  sure  I  get  my  fingers  on  this 

thing,  and  make  sure  it's  locked.    Can't  get  it  on. 
Do  it.     There,  that  got  it.     Okay,  that  should 
have  it.     Get  your  fan  here  in  a  minute.  Okay, 
you  got  your  fan  on? 


LMP-LM 


FM's  ON. 


Tape  108A/8 


CDR-I«     Good.    Okay,  I  want  to  verify  it  right  now.  Your 
heOaiet  is  locked.    It's  aligned.    It's  aligned. 
It's  locked.    Flaps  are  down  in  back.    Your  LEVA 
is  locked.    Your  fan's  on,  right? 

I-MP-IM  Yes. 

Cm-IM  Okay,  let's  pick  mine  up, 

UfB~m  Okay. 

IMP-IM  Okay,  you  ready? 

CDR-D4  Yea. 

USP-m  You  can  feel  that  rim  all  the  way  around.    Wait  a 
minute . 

CDH-IM  Well,  let  me  -  you  Just  - 

CC  And,  Geno,  we  don't  see  your  fan  on  yet. 

CDH-IM  It  -  it'll  come  on.  Bob. 

LJO>,LM  There,  it's  locked. 

CDR-I/j  Okay,  are  the  engage  marks  marked. 

IMP-U4  WeU,  they  are  now, 

CDR-IM  Okay. 

LMP-IW  That's  in  alignaent  only. 

CDR-IM  Okay,  Bob,  my  FAN' s  ON.    It  is  locked?    Look  good 
to  you? 

LMP-IM     Yes.  Pine. 

Cm-Ui  Okay, 

CDR-LM     Get  the  LEVAs  locked.    The  curtcdn  down  and  back? 


Tape  108A/9 


LMP-LM     Yes.    Velcro  -  Okay.    Looks  good.    Okay,  where 
are  we  here?    Verify  white  dots  plus  EVA  decals 
and  then  -  you  can  don  your  gloves. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

06  16  38  08    LMP-LM     Okay.    Why  don't  you  turn  that  way  and  let  me 

turn  this  way? 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack,  I'm  going  to  turn  these  lights  off. 
LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      We  don't  need  those. 

LMP-LM     Okay.    EVA  decals,  white  dots. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  URINE  LINE  HEATER 's  going  to  come  off,  and 
the  "breaker  is  OUT.  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I'm  ready,  except  for  TC  pump  -  LOG  pump. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  leave  it  on.    We  can  don  our  gloves  now. 


LMP-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  right  glove  is  LOCKED  and  verified.  Okay 
and  the  wrist  cover  is  on  there.    On.     ...  Air' 
is  very  dirty.    Boy,  do  I  need  a  shave.  (Laughter) 
Okay.    I  got  all  mine  down. 

CDR-LM      You  all  set? 

LMP-LM      I  got  my  left  hand.    Got  the  left  hand.    Now  let's 
see  what  I  can  do  with  the  right  hand.  Almost 
tempted  to  take  those  cover  gloves  off  today. 

CDR-LM      I  might  take  a  look  at  that,  too.    I  hate  to  argue 
with  success,  hut  1  need  that  dexterity  today. 
Bob,  I  don't  know  if  you  caught  it  yesterday  -  a 
little  interesting  facet  of  the  whole  2-EVA 
exercise  was  the  fact  that  I've  already  worn  - 


Tape  108A/10 

06  16  kl  33    CC  Gene,  you  dropped  out  tliere  right  in  the  middle. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We  -  you  dropped  out  there, 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Boh.    How  do  you  read  now? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.  Gene. 

Cm-IM  Okay,  I  hit  the  VOX  switch  on  my  audio  panel. 

UfP-lM  You  did? 


CDR-IM 


CC 


Yes,  when  I  picked  up  my  glove.    Okay,  Bob,  the 
only  thing  I  said  -  little  point  of  interest,  I 
wore  the  RTV  off  the  -  not  all  of  it  -  but  right 
through  the  bare  metal  on  the  hammer  -  somed^  - 
some  time  in  the  previous  2  days.    No  problem;  it 
just  interests  me. 

Okay,  copy  that.    And  copy  that  you  still  have 
you  cover  gloveg  on  today,  right? 


CDR-IM     Yes,  sir.    I'll  tell  you,  we  have  become  very 
respectful  of  the  dust. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  yes,  cover  gloves,  yes  -  We've  also  got  the  - 
we've  also  got  the  wrist  dust  -  d\ist  covers  on, 
too. 

CC  Roger.    Strike  a  blow  for  Mason  oar  rings. 

LMP-IM     What's  left  of  the  -  and  what's  left  of  the  cover 
gloves . 

CDR-LM     Okay,  Jack,  you're  on? 
LMP-LM     I'm  on. 
CDR-LM     In  lock? 
LMP-m      In  lock. 


Tape  108A/11 


CDR-LM      Well,  I  just  -  I  got  my  thing  -  I  want  to  make 
sure  I'm  locked  again.    Yes,  I  am.    I  took  it 
off  again.    Well,  I  was.    Talking  and  you  just  do 
things  -  Okay.    Don  EV  gloves.    Cover,  okay.  PGA 
biting?    No.    Okay.    LCG  cold  as  required,  and 
LCG  PUMP,  OPEN.    I  guess  you  can  open  it. 

LMP-LM     Yes,  and  disconnect  the  LM   

CDR-LM     Okay.    LCG  pump,  water  hose.    And  I  got  a  tone 

but  that's  because  I  turned  my  oxygen  on  briefly. 
Okay.    Okay,  PUMP's  OPEN.    Turn  around  here  half 
you. 

LMP-EVA    You  can  -  you  can  take  the  water  off. 
CDR-LM      Water's  off. 
LMP-LM     Are  the  pumps  off? 


cm-m 


Okay,  your  water's  off.    »•«  that  there  for  a 
minute.    Okay,  hang  on.    Okay,  you're  in  and 
locked.    ***  over  nicely.  Okay. 


LMP-M  Okay. 


CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 


You're  off.  I'll  lay  that  there.  Where's  your 
water?    Here  it  is  way  over  here. 

Hold  on.     Okay,  ...  lock  and  your  cover's  on. 
I  got  to  zap  my  PGA.    Wait  a  minute,  I'm  biting 
here. 


LMP-LM  Okay, 
CDR-LM      . . .  Okay. 

liMP-LM      Okay,  verify  your  PLSS  is  -  WATER "s  MIN  when  you 
get  a  chance. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  that's  verified.    Did  that  a  minute  ago, 


LMP-LM     And  mine's  verified  and  your  pump  on. 


Tape  108A/12 

CDR-IM  Okay,  PUMP's  going  OH. 

LMP-LM  Mine  ON.    PPESSUEE  REQ  A,  B,  to  EGRESS. 

CDR-LM  Okay ,  they  are  EGRESS . 

LMP-LM  Okay,  pressure  integrity  check.  Reactsr? 

CDR-LM  Let  me  . . . 

UiP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Awful  lot  of  line  there,  isn't  there? 

LMP-LM  Yes . 

CDR-LM  exactly  what  to  do  with  it.  Okay. 

LMP-IM  All  right.    You  happy? 

CDR-IM  Yes . 

LMP-D4  PRESSURE  REGs  A,  B,  to  EGRESS. 

LMP-IJ4  They  are  EGRESS. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Put  your  PLSS  Og  water  -  No. 

06  16  k6  k3    mP-IH  ON,  now.    Mark  it. 

CDR-LM  PLSS  Og  ON. 

LMP-LM  PLSS  Og  ON. 

CDR-LM  Right. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  it's  on. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  and  mines  on.    We'll  wait  till  it  builds  us 

up.  Press  flag  should  clear  at  3.1  to  3.^,  0  flag 
is  clear  at  3.7  of  U.O, 


Tape  IO8A/13 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I'm  coming  up.    Hope  the  old  suit  integrity 
is  Just  as  good  as  it  has  been. 

LMP-LM  I  don't  see  why  not. 

CDR-LM  Coming  up? 

LMP-LM  Yes . 

LMP-LM  About  3.5  now. 

CDR-LM  Yes,  me  too.    Okay,  let  me  know  when  you  are  up. 

LMP-LI^  I  think  I'm  up;  I'm  3.8. 

CDR-Ll'I  Okay,  let's  see  if  we  can't  get  these  - 

CDR-LM  I  can't  get  yours. 

IM>-IM  1  can't  - 

CDR-LM  Okay,  mine's  OFF. 

LMP-LM  Mine's  OFF  - 

06  16  k8  27    CDR-LM  MARK  it. 

LMP-LM  ¥e  wanted  decay  for  1  minute. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  I  started  at  383. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    That's  about  exactly  where  I  was.  Another 
^5  seconds  to  go. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     So  far,  it  looks  as  tight  as  it  was 
yesterday. 

LMP-LM     Another  30  seconds.    Maybe  lunar  dust  is  a  good 
sealant . 

CDR-LM     Houston ,  CDR  ...  at  382  to  270 . 
LMP-LM      270?     370 . 
CDR-LM      370 . 


Tape  lOaA/ll* 


CC  Understand  370, 

LMP-IM     Okay,  LMP  was  ^  LMP  was  -  83  to  70. 

Okay,  Jack.    Yo^  can  get  your  Qg  on. 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM      It's  on. 


CDR-M     Okay.    Can  you  move  to  the  left  a  little  bit  -  to 
your  left?    I  got  to  get  in  front  here. 

CC  Okay,  you're  GO  from  here  - 

Gm^W     Okay,  let  me  tqj-n  this  over, 

CC  17.  you  copy  -  . . . 

CDR^LM     Okay,  stand  by.    Okay,         -vrtiat  time  we  have  to 
turn  the  checklist  over?    Okay,  we've  got  a  GO 
for  depress,    On  l6,  CABIN  REPRESS,  OPEN,  and 
CABIN  REPRESS  valve,  CLOSED. 

LMP-^LM  Okay, 

CDR-I4M  The  breaker  open  and  the  valve  closed. 

LMP-P4  Okay,  stand  by,    Can  you  give  me  a  little  room  - 

CDR<»]J<  Let  me  ^  Okay,  how's  that? 

06  16  50  28    IMPr-m  Okay,    Okay,  REPRESS  is  OPEN. 

CDR-LM     Okay,    Nov,  why  c^on't  you  face  the  wall  over  there 
and  Bi©ve  in  as  and  I'll  get  the  overhead  valve. 

LMP^LM      Wait  a  tainute,  I've  got  to  close  the  REPRESS  valve. 

You  got  it  all  ri^t.    Okay,  it's  CLOSED  and  I'll 
gft  where  I  v^s  yesterday, 

CDR-IM  Okay, 

LMP-LM     How's  that? 

CPR-m     We'll  find  out  in  a  minute. 


Tape  108A/15 


LMP-LM      Okay.     I've  got  to  get  my  PLSS. 
CDR-LM      Can  you  get  it? 

LMP-LM      Well,  can't  ...  I  can  turn  with  my  back  to  the 
wall  and  you  might  have  a  little  more  - 

CDE-LM      Well,  I  think  -  I  feel  like  I'm  hooked  on 

something.  Wait.  I  can't  turn  either  way  -  stay 
where  you  are.    There  -  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  the  safety  -  Oh,  boy,  I'm  glad  I'm  not  an 
inch  shorter.     Okay,  coming  down.  Jack.  You 
ready? 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead,  to  3.5. 
CDR-LM      Okay,  it's  OPEN. 
LMP-LM      Okay,  k.5  -  k  ~  Stand  by. 
06  16  51  51    LMP-LM  MARK. 

CDR-LM      AUTO . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  at  3.5. 

CDR-LM      Can  you  read  -  the  checklist? 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I  can.     Okay.     OPEN,  AUTO  3.5  cuff  check- 
list -  cuff  gage  does  not  drop  below  h.6,  it 
hasn't . 

CDR-LM     Mine's  good. 

LMP-LM      ...  you  put  your  hand  down.     I  can't  read  it. 
CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Cabin  is  holding  at  3.5.     And  suit  circuit  is 

locked  up  at  U.5  and  PGA  is  decaying  greater  than 
1+.5  -  ^.6,  okay. 

06  l6  52  33    CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob,  I'm  starting  my  watch. 

CC  We're  GO. 


Tape  IO8A/16 


LMP-UI     Olsay.    Ycu  c^-.  s<'  to  -  go  to  OPEN. 
CDH-LM      Okay,  it'.^  0?Ei:. 

IMP-H'I     Okay,  and  pi-essure  is  gone  up.    And  the  next  step 
Is,  vhen  you  oen ,  open  the  forward  hatch. 

CDR-LK      Okay,  E>y  suit's  relieving. 

UIP-LM     Down  to  elnost  I.5  now. 

LMP-UI      ...  psi.    Okay,  n^y  relief  valve  just  seated  at  5.3, 
CDR-LM     Okay,  where  are  we? 
LMP-LM     We're  at  0.5. 

CDR-LM      I  guess  the  next  thing  is  to  open  the  hatch,  huh? 
liMP-LM      Yes . 

CDH-LM      I've  got  tc  get  down  ...  5  ...  here  before  I  can 
turn  too  well  and  open  the  hatch.     I'm  going  to 
let  it  come  down  a  little  hit  this  time  so  I  don't 
get  down  there  unnecessarily. 

LMP-LM     Yes .    It ' s  got  a  ways  to  go  yet . 

LMP-LM     Ahout  0.3  nov. 

LMP-LM  0.2. 

CDR-LM      I've  got  a  tone  and  it's  water  tone.    Okay,  I'm 
going  tc  go  a^ter  that  hatch.     Can  you  slip  to 
the  right  as  far  as  you  can?    Got  it. 

LMP-M     Got  to  hold  it  until  the  pressure  decreases.  All 
sorts  of  JuTok  going  out  there. 

CDE-LJ4      Okay,  now.     Okay.     It's  partially  open. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  get  your  water  if  you  can. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    We'd  like  you  to  close  REG  A,  please. 


Tape  IO8A/17 


LMP-LM  Oh,  close  REG  A,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  stand  hy.     That's  not  an  easy  task. 

06  16  55  i+5    LMP-LM  REG  A  is  CLOSED.    Gene,  can  you  get  my  water? 

CDR-LM  Yes . 

LMP-LM  Did  you  get  in  there? 

CDR-LM  Okay,  it's  OPEN. 

LMP-LM  Okay.    LMP's  WATER  is  OPEN.     You  got  yours. 

CDR-LM  Yes,  I  got  mine.     Excuse  me.    Well,  let's  see. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  you  got  it  open,  so  I  need  to  turn  around. 

See  if  I  can  back  in  and  out  of  the  way  of  the 
door. 

CDR-LM  Say,  Bob.    What  did  you  see  in  REG  A? 


CC 


Stand  by.  Gene.  We're  seeing  high  suit  pressures, 
stand  by. 


LMP-LM      High  suit  pressure? 

CC  Ok£^,  and  about  your  

CDR-LM      ...     Yes,  I'm  seeing  about  your  - 


CC 


Challenger,  Gene,  you're  GO  to  go  out,  and  once 
you  get  out,  maybe  Jack  can  turn  aroiind  and  work 
on  those  a  bit  better.    We're  seeing,  I  guess,  the 
suit  looks  a  little  high  in  pressure. 


LMP-LM  Okay 
CDR-LM 


Okay,  I'm  looking  at  1^  -  at  about  i+.T  on  the  suit 
loop  right  now. 


Tape  IO8A/18 


CC 

CDR-m 
IMP-LM 
CDR-M 

CDR-LM 
LMP-liM 

CDR-IiM 
LMP-I*I 

CDB-LM 

LMP-I.M 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-IJi 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

06  16  58  h7  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-LM 


Okayi  we  copy  that. 

Okay,  Jack,    You're  a  -  tbei-e  you  go. 

I'll  get  i-t. 

Okay^  turn. 

Okay.    What  does  it  look  like  to  you? 

Well,  you're  -  you're  doing  great;  keep  down. 
Just  a  little  hangup  on  the  DSKY, 

I  didn't  get  mine.    Arm  down  there. 

You  need  to  go  to  your  left  a  little  to  clear 
the  purse  and  your  harness.    Ther^  we  go. 

Jack,  you  see  this?    This  is  one  of  those  cards 
that  -  - 

Yes,  I  saw  that,  Geno. 

I'll  put  it  right  there. 

. , ,    Can  you  coBje  forward  Just  a  little? 

Forward? 

That  clip  got  avay.    Come  towards  -  me,  in  the 
cabin  -  there. 

Okay? 

Wait  a  Blinute.    Okay,    I  got  it.    Hey,  you're 
in  good  shape. 

Okay,  I'm  on  the  porch.    Whee  -  I'm  still  at  h.3. 

Roger.  on  that. 

Okay,  I'm  on  the  porch.  Boh. 

Copy  that. 

Okay,  what  do  you  want?    What  can  I  do  for  you. 
Boh? 


Tape  IO8A/19 


CC 

CDR-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-LM 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-LM 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-LM 

CDR-EVA 

CC  ■ 

LMP-LM 

06  17  01  07  LMP-LM 
CC 


Stand  by  Jack.    We'll  get  a  word  to  you  in  one 
minute. 

Okay,  Jack,  in  that  -  Well,  I  guess  that'll  wait. 
Get  my  LEG  ready  for  you.    Okay.    And  everything 
looks  normal  on  me,  right  now.     ...  pressure  down 
a  little  bit. 

Things  norm,  except  a  part  of  my  nose  itches  I 
can't  get  to. 

I'll  give  you  the  jett  bag  anyway,  Geno,  while 
they're  thinking.     I  guess  that's  part  of  -  R&D. 
Oh,  yes,  the  Jett  bag. 

Santa  Claus '  bag  again. 

Okay,  Jack.    We'd  like  to  have  you  stay  in  just  a 
minute  or  so  longer.    We're  trying  to  keep  track 
here  of  the  suit  circuit  pressure  and  see  if  it 
stabilizes  or  starts  to  drop.    The  one  reg  which 
has  been  intermittently  leaking  -  we  still  haven't 
Isolated  it.    And  we  think  we've  got  it  shut  off, 
but  we're  still  watching  it.     So  bear  with  us 
just  a  minute  or  so. 

I'm  bearing.  Bob. 

Hey,  what  else  -  - 

I  thought  you  isolated  it  last  night.     Okay.  Let 
me  give  you  the  ETB. 

Yes .    Give  me  that  and  I ' 11  be  on  my  way  -  work 
on  the  TGE.     Okay,  got  it. 

Okay,  Jack,  and  how  about  taking  the  SUIT  CIRCUIT 
RELIEF  valve  -  cycle  it  just  to  OPEN  and  then  back 
to  AUTO. 

Okay,  Bob,  stand  by. 

SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF  going  OPEN,  then  AUTO.  That's 
done . 

Okay,  we'll  watch  it  for  a  minute  here  and  let 
you  know. 


Tape  108A/20 


06  IT  01  22    CDR-EVA   Okay,  Bob.    I'm  going  down  the  ladder. 
CC  Roger,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  still  there.  Jack.    "Godspeed  the  crew  of 
Apollo  IT." 

LMP-LM  Good, 

CC  Amen  there.  Gene.  Amen. 

CDR-EVA    Oke^,  Boh,  I'm  on  the  pad.    And  it's  about  U:30, 
a  Wednesday  afternoon,  as  I  step  out  on  to  the 
plains  of  Taurus -Li  ttrov,  "beautiful  valley.  The 
first  thing  I'll  do  is  I'll  turn  the  TGE  on, 
and  I'll  give  you  a  reading. 

CC  Okay;  we're  ready. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  very  much  interested  -  very  much  interested 
in  my  Rover  hattery. 

CC  And,  Jack,  you're  GO  for  exit  and  looks  like  we've 

got  it  taken  care  of. 

IMP-IW     OkSQT,  and  I'm  checking  the  circuit  breakers. 

06  IT  02  kO    CDR-EVA    It's  cm  and  read  -  Bob,  it  reads  222,  262,  20T; 

222,  262,  20T. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that,  Geno. 

LMP-LM     Okay,  get  the  visor  down,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Get  iiie  visor  down  -  Holy  Smoly.    Think  it'd  be 

better  to  leave  it  up.    Beautiful  out  here  today. 
Bob.    We  can  look  to  the  east  for  a  change  -  a 
little  bit,  anyvay. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA   A  hi^er  Sun  angle.    Okay,  I'll  get  the  LCRU 
battery  changed  out. 


CC 


Okay,    And  as  you  walk  by  there,  if  you  walk  by 
in  the  ri^t  side  of  the  Rover,  how  about  giving 
us  a  SEP  temperature  read-out ,  please . 


Tape  IO8A/21 


CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

06  17  Ok  h9  LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


SEP  temperature  is  103  degrees. 
Cow>  103. 

103 »  and  the  mirror  is  still  clean. 
Copy  that . 

Well,  let's  see  if  I  can  change  this  little  hahy 
now.    Supposed  to  he  simple.    Boh,  we  have  no  use 
for  the  old  battery,  right? 

That's  affirm. 

Okay.    I'm  on  the  porch  and  the  hatch  is  CLOSED. 
Oh,  don't  step  into  that. 
Are  you  talking  to  me  or  you? 
I'm  talking  to  me. 

Okay,  that  sounds  familiEir  Bsii  looks  familiar  - 
the  old  plain.    The  valley  of  the  Taurus-Littrow. 

You  want  to  get  your  antenna? 

Yes ,  let  me  get  that  - 

I'll  come  over  there. 

I'll  get  the  TV  on.  I've  already  got  the  "battery 
changed. 

There's  the  Earth  right  in  the  middle  of  the 
antenna.     Okay,  verify  MODE  3  -  I  am  in  MODE  3; 
LCRU  blankets  are  open  100  percent,  battery 
covers  I'm  closing,  the  battery  -  let  me  close  it. 
Yes,  you  can  probably  get  antenna. 

Wait  a  minute.     Let  me  set  this  down. 

Yes ,  okay . 

Okay,  stay  there. 

I  was  just  try  -  I'm  trying  to. 


Tape  108A/22 


I24P-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  your  antenna's  up.    Walt  a  minute.  Come 
here  and  I'll  snap  the  snap. 

CDR-K\^A  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Didn't  mean  to  do  that, 

Cm-EVA   That's  all  right.    I  can't  get  close  enough  to 
you. 

LMP-EVA    Here  you  are. 

CDR-EVA    Lean  a  little  more.    Antenna's  up.    Let  me  get  the 
snap. 

CC  And,  17,  if  you  guys  are  interested,  your  shadows 

vill  be  8  feet  long  tonight. 

LMP-EVA   How  many  meters  is  that,  Bob? 

CDR-EVA    I'll  draw  it  out  -  I'll  step  it  out  for  you. 
You  can  measure  it.  (Laughter) 

U^-EVA    Well,  I  don't  know.     Should  I  take  my  gloves  off? 
I  me€tn  my  cover  gloves. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  leave  them  on  for  a  while  and  see 
where  we're  going.    See  what  the  boulder  field 
looks  like  up  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  know  what  it's  going  to  look  like. 

CDR-EVA    Ho,  you  don't. 

LMP-EVA    The  point  is  my  hands  will  be  much  better  off 
without  them. 

CDR-EVA    Take  them  off,  then.    Okay,  battery  covers  are 

closed  and  tight.    Hi^  gain  is  already  oriented. 
Oh,  they've  even  got  TV,  I  guess. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CDR-EVA    . . . 


Tape  IO8A/23 


CC  And,  Geno,  when  you.  push  the  Rover  circuit  breakers 

in,  how  ahout  giving  us  a  battery  temperature 
reading  on  the  Rover  bats . 

CDR-EVA    Tell  them  what  my  batteries  are  reading  if  I  can. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let  me  see  if  I  can  do  something  else  while 
I 'm  waiting. 

ODR-EVA    Ko,  I'm  done.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  the  old  SEP  receiver. 

06  IT  09  13    CDR-EVA    Well,  Bob,  the  -  battery  1  is  95  degrees  and 

the  -  battery  2  is  reading  zero.     So  we  got  a  gage 
failure.    No,  it's  not  reading  zero;  it's  off 
s  cale  low . 

CC  Okay,  read  that  -  copy  that.    That's  a  real  cool- 

down,  isn't  it?    Okay,  Jack,  if  you're  going  to 
worry  about  the  SEP,  stand  by  and  don't  do  the  SEP 
until  after  you  worry  with  the  ETB,  and  we'll  get 
to  you  on  that.    When  you  get  the  ETB  to  the  seat, 
I'll  talk  to  you  about  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  it's  -  1  -  1  -  102  is  the  temperature. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.  Mark. 

CC  MARK. 

06  IT  10  02    CDR-EVA  MARK  gravimeter;  it's  flashing. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  we'll  take  the  big  bag.     I  hope  we  can  keep 
it  on . 

LMP-EVA    . . . 

CC  Okay .    A  couple  of  things  on  that ,  Geno .  You 

might  try  tapping  the  thing  to  see  if  that  loosens 
the  dust.    There's  also  the  hook  business  on  the 
inside  of  the  pallet  that  you  could  hook  it  on. 
Caution:     if  you  open  the  pallet,  be  careful  not  to 
knock  the  clamps  off  the  fender.    But  you  can  also 
reach  over  the  pallet  to  put  the  big  bag  on. 


Tape  IO8A./2I* 

06  17  10  h2    GDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.  ■  We  -  I  brushed  it  and  tapped  it  yes- 
terday,   I'm  not  sure  we're  going  to  have  much 
luck  with  them. 

CC  Say  again  there,  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    I  brushed  them  and  tapped  them  yesterday. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that.    You  might  want  to  put  the  big 

bag  on  the  inside  of  the  pallet  there,  if  you 
can't  operate  them. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  mag  Kilo  goes  on  the  500;  is  that  correct? 
CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP^EVA    Okay,  I've  got  Mary  and  Franny  and  Nancy  -  and 
Donna  -  and  Bobby  and  ■ 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I'm  also  going  to  keep  this  in  there. 
LMP-EVA    -  ^  Karen. 

CDR-EVA    Because  it's  too  hard  to  get  off  the  front  end. 
We'll  find  a  place  for  that  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    It's  Just  too  hard  to  get  off  the  front  end.  Okay, 
let's  see.    Big  bag  to  gate,  dustbrush  to  -  Let 
me  get  that  big  bag  on  the  inside  of  the  gate  if 
I  can.    Inside  thff  gate  or  the  pallet.  Bob? 

CC  Inside  the  pallet,    t^y  -  my  fault  there. 

LMP-EVA    That  -  that's  -  the  pallet,  the  pallet  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CC  And  if  you  open  the  pallet,  be  careful  of  the  clamp. 

Probably,  if  it's  feasible,  we  suggest  you  reach 
across  in  front  of  the  pallet  -  reach  across  the 
pallet  to  do  it.    Instead  of  opening  it  because  of 
the  clamp  on  the  fender. 


CDR-EVA 


It's  not  feasible.  It's  not  feasible  to  do  that. 
I  got  to  open  it,  plus  our  hook  is  -  overcenter. 


Tape  IO8A/25 


Let  me  get  something  to  work  on  that  with.  You 
know.  Bob,  how  that  pallet  locking  hook  can  -  can 
be  out  of  the  little  C-^-shaped  -  release  in  there? 
It  is  . 

CC  Oh,  boy. 

CDR-EVA    I  noticed  that  yesterday. 

CC  Jack.    When  you  get  done  with  the  ETB,  then  you 

might  save  the  gray  tape  out.    We're  going  to  use 
a  little  bit  of  that  on  the  SEP  when  you  get  done. 

LMP-EVA    When  are  you  going  to  do  that? 

CC  We'll  turn  the   

LMP-EVA    What  am  I  supposed  to  do,  stand  -  well  - 

CC  We'll  turn  both  switches  on  when  you're  out  at 

the  SEP  transmitter. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  the  tape  is  in  the  CDRs  seat,  and  it'll 
still  be  there. 

CC  Wo,  we'd  like  to  take  the  tape  from  the  CDRs  seat 

and  use  it  on  the  SEP,  right  now. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     You  want  me  to  do  it  or  Gene  to  do  it? 

CC  Why  don't  you  do  it  since  the  tape  is  there.  No, 

let's  -  let's  let  Gene  do  it.    Doesn't  really 
matter.    Whoever  wants  to. 

06  17  lh-2h    LMP-EVA    Okay,  we'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  big  bag  is  on  the  inside  of  the  - 
of  the  pallet . 

CC  Okay;  we  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  want  it  ... 

CDR-EVA    The  -  And  I  know  why.    This  is  a  ...  that's  on  the 
way.  Jack.    Get  rid  of  this  thing.    We  don't  need 
it  anyway.     Okay,  opening  and  closing  of  the  pal- 
lets didn't  interfere  at  all  with  those  fenders. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 


Tape  IO8A/26 


MP-EVA    These  aren't  claa^d  ikw  -  Now  the  tape. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    The  big  bag  is  on  the  inside,  though. 

Uff-EVA   Yes,  but  it's  -  also  in  the  way.    Okay,  I  got  it. 

CK?-EVA    Sure  is.    Wait  a  minute.    Wait  a  minute.  Don't 
close  it. 

I^-EVA    Want  me  to  get  out  of  the  way? 

CDR-EVA    I'll  open  it.    See?    It  drags  over  that  locking 
device.    Okay»  let  me  just  see  what  we  got  to  do 
here,    Ok^.    Big  bag,  ^tbnish,  SCB-7  to  gate, 
laount  20-bag  dispenser  on  CQUBnander's  camera, 
20-bag  dispenser  to  the  LMP,  core  cap  dispenser  to 
the  gate. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  are  you  going  out  to  take  the 

pan  now? 

06  17  16  15    IM>-EVA   Well,  as  soon  as  I  finish  up  here. 
CC  (atay. 
IMP-EVA    I'll  do  that. 

CC  Okay.    And  after  you  take  the  pan,  we'd  like  you 

to  retriere  the  cosadc  ray  experiment.  They're 
expecting  a  little  solar  storm,  and  before  the 
rain  gets  an  the  cosmic  ray  experiment,  they'd 
like  to  retries  it.    We'll  leave  it  in  the  ETB 
during  the  traverse. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  after  the  pan.    All  right. 

CC  Ro^r.    It  will  just  be  a  nominal  retrieval  and 

we*ll  put  it  in  the  ETB.    Copy  the  gate. 

LMP-EVA  C&ay. 


CDR-EVA 


Okay. 


Tape  108A/2T 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  SCB-T  -  20-bag  dispenser  goes  on  my  camera 
when  it  gets  l)ack.    Short  can  under  the  LMPs  seat. 
Okay.     Jack,  I'll  just  go  ahead  and  mount  some 
of  these  hags  on  your  camera  while  I'm  here. 

IM'-EVA    Okay.    Thank  you. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  if  you  got  time  there  with  the 

camera,  why  don't  we  -  when  you  get  done  with  the 
camera,  how  about  getting  some  gray  tape  and  we'll 
put  you  to  work  on  SEP  for  about  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    The  SEP  receiver? 

CC  That's  affirm.     And  if  you  get   

CDR-EVA    Stand  by.     Let  me  finish  with  SCB-J  here. 

CC  Okay.    And  did  you  get  Jack's  camera  fixed  last 

night?     I  didn't  hear. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  did.     Okay,  there  is  already  one  on  the 

gate.     Leave  that  one  there.    Okay,  SCB-T  to  gate, 
20-bag  dispenser  on  commander's  -  camera,  we'll 
do  it  when  I  get  back  -  20  bags  on  the  LMPs 
camera,  core  cap  dispenser  to  gate  -  there's  one 
there,  there's  one  under  the  seat  -  short  cans 
under  the  LMPs  seat.     Okay,  I  got  to  put  that  cap 
dispenser  on  him,  I  got  to  get  my  rammer,  hammer  - 
Hey,  Bob,  what  bag  do  you  want  on  the  LMP?    Do  we 
ave  8  here? 

CC  Stand  by.     I  think  8  went  in,  either      or  6.  No, 

excuse  me;  either  5  or  U. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We'll  put  either  it  or  5  on  there.  Okay. 

I'll  have  to  wait  until  he  gets  back.  What  do  you 
want?  Or  let  me  give  you  TGE  reading  and  get  that 
out  of  the  way  and  then  I ' 11  work  on  your  SEP . 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

06  17  19h3      CDR-EVA    Okay.    6T0 ,  027,  001;  that's  670,  027,  001. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that.  Gene.     Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Fender  wrinkled  up  in  the  Sun  a  little  bit  last 
night. 


Tape  108A/28 

LMP-EVA    Okay  - 

06  17  20  17    LMP-EVA   MARK  It.    The  cosmic  ray  is  terminated. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    And,  Boh,  I  took  two  5- foot  stereopairs  of  the 
configuration. 

CC  Copy.    And  we'll  stick  it  in  the  ETB  and  Just  hang 

it  there . 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    And  in  case  you're  wondering,  and  so  you 
don't  confuse  it  with  a  rock,  it's  in  hag  106, 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    What  do  you  want  done  to  the  SEP? 

CC  Okay.    Take  some  gray  tape  over  to  the  receiver. 

Gene.    And  with  reference  to  the  fact  that  the  - 
there  is  some  Velcro  missing  on  the  front  there 
which  hold  the  covers  down,  we'd  like  to  tape  the 
two  covers  together  -  on  the  -  in  the  middle 
there  -  you  know,  where  the  two  -  two  sides  over- 
lap in  the  middle  of  the  hox.    Tape  those  two 
together.    A  short  piece  about  an  inch  long  should 
do  it  if  they  are  clean. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  doubt  if  the  tape  will  stick  because  , . .  , 
but  I  Hiight  be  able  to  go  over  it  with  one  piece 
to  clean  it  and  another  piece  to  tape  it. 

CC  Okay.    And  the  question  beyond  that,  is  there 

Velcro  to  hold  one  of  those  flaps  down  or  not? 

CDR-EVA  Ho. 

CC  Okay,  ao  both  pieces  -  the  Velcro  is  missing  from 

both  flaps ,  I  take  it. 


CDR-EVA 


Yes. 


Tape  IO8A/29 


LMP-EVA    Bob ,  what  happened  was  that  the  tape  that  held 

the  lower  Velcro  on  there  apparently  came  loose, 
and  it  stuck  to  the  upper  Velcro. 

CC  Okay.     I  understand  that.     In  that  case,  we'd  like 

to  take  a  piece  of  tape  and  tape  the  cover  down  to 
keep  it  closed  when  it's  not  -  when  it's  supposed 
to  be  closed.    The  feeling  is  that  if  the  cover 
flaps  partly  open,  you  may  get  specular  reflection 
off  the  inside  of  the  I^lar  down  onto  the  mirrors 
caiosing  it  to  heat  up  during  the  drive  when  it's 
supposed  to  be  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  we'll  give  it  a  try. 


CC 


Okay;  thank  you.     And,  Jack,  if  you're  done,  you 
might  go  rescue  EP  number  5  from  the  footpad,  and 
we'll  put  it  under  the  LMPs  seat. 


06  IT  22  hS    LMP-EVA    Well,  be  a  lot  of  other  things  under  there.  Okay. 

I'll  rescue  it;  we'll  see  where  the  best  place  to 
put  it  is . 

CC  Okay, 

LI-IP-EVA    Hey,  I  got  -  I  got  bags  on  you  -  I  got  bags  on 
your  camera,  (Jeno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  thank  you. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  we're  going  to  put  those  two  bags  on  the 
rear  there  on  your  PLSSs? 

CC  One  of  them  will  go  -  - 

CDR-EVA    ...  those  two  on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 


CC 


The  one  under  LMPs  seat  will  go  on  the  CDR,  the 
one  with  all  the  stuff  in  it. 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  core  tubes  in  7  here.  Jack.  We'll 
put  either  one  of  those  -  - 


Tape  IO8A/30 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    So  I  can't  put  the  charge  under  my  seat. 

CC  That's  affim,  I  think.  Jack,  once  you  get  SCB-7 

out  of  there. 

mP-EVA    Yes,    I  feel  like  a  kid  stuck  in  taffy. 

LMP-EVA    Sure  is  strange  not  to  see  some  fine-grained  rocks 
out  here.    Seen  a  couple  hut  certainly  not  very 
many. 

CC  Copy  that. 

IMP-EVA    That  rock  that  you  picked  up  at  -  What  are  you 
doing  up  there?  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Boh,  that'll  hold  it  down.    I  hope  it  solves  the 
problem. 

CC  Roger.    And  so  does  Dr.  Strangelove. 

IMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  probahly  not  any  more  than  we  would  like  to 
see  it  solved. 

LMP-EVA    Bob  -  Nothing.    Gene,  your  bag's  going  to  have 
two  lovers  and  one  upper. 

CC  Did  you  re-sort  things  there.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  What's  that? 

CO  Did  you  re-sort  things  in  SCB-7?    I  was  told   

LMP-EVA  I  said  I  got  -  Bob,  I  -  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    Our  understanding  was  there  were  two  uppers 

and  one  lower  in  bag  7,  and  two  lowers  under  the 
LMP  seat.    Did  you  re-sort  things  there? 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  wazit  -  how  do  you  want  them? 


Tape  IO8A/31 


06  IT  26  03  LMP-E^7A 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 


It  doesn't  matter  to  us.     I  just  waxited  to  make 
sure  that  we  know  what  you  are  so  we  don't  let 
you  get  away  too  far  with  two  uppers  and  a  lower. 
Two  lowers  and  an  upper  Is  certainly  "better  than 
two  uppers  and  a  lower.     As  long  as  we  know  what 
it  is . 

Okay.     It's  two  lowers  and  an  upper. 
Got  that . 

Two  lowers  and  an  upper.    Man,  I'm  confused. 

Okay.    When  you're  ready,  I'll  configure  you. 

Okay,  here,  let  me  -  let  me  get  this  on  you  first 
since  I  got  -  - 

Okay. 

And  I'm  going  to  ask  you  to  turn  a  -  I80  degrees 
because  you're  up  on  a  hill.  I'll  never  lae  able 
to  do  it. 

How's  that?    I'm  down  in  a  hole  now. 

That's  beautiful. 

Okay,   ...     Can't  get  this  fixed. 

Tallest  man  on  the  Moon  right  now.     Okay,  that's 
done . 

Okay? 

Just  a  second.    Let  me  close  the  'cover.    Not  a 
very  good  cover.  Okay. 

Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  put  SCB-k  on  Jack. 
Go  ahead. 

Say  again  there.  Gene.    SCB-6?    SCB-1+ i  copy. 

SC  -  SCB-U  will  go  on  Jack.     Okay,  Jack,  I  got 
to  get  these  PLSS  straps,  too.     Did  you  get  mine? 


Tape  IO8A/32 


LMP-EVA  No, 


CDR-EVA   Those  harness  release  straps? 

LMP-EVA   Oh,  no.    Let's  4o  that.    I  sav  them  bs  you  go  out, 
and  then  I  forget  ahout  them. 

GPR-EVA    Yes.    Okay,  yours  is  on  over  here.    Probably  a 

better  time  to  do  them,  anyway,  rather  than  when  we 
go  out.    Okay,  let  me  get  the  bag.    I'll  get  the 
other  one  when  I  configure  your  other  side.  Okay, 
you're  on.    Okay,  want  to  get  my  PLSS  straps? 
Then  I'll  be  cleaned  up »  and  then  I  finish  your 
other  one  when  I  configure  your  other  side.  Okay, 
you're  on.    Okay,  want  to  get  my  PLSS  straps? 
Then  I'll  be  cleaned  up,  and  then  I  finish  yovir 
other  Bide. 


IMB~SVA    Let  me  get  the  other  one.    Warmer  out  here  today. 
...  on  the  hands.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA   Okay,  stay  right  where  you  are  so  I  can  get  this. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,    Now  come  over  here,  and  I'll  get  you  a  cor 
cap  dispenser,  which  I  left  here.     Okay,  you  got 
St3B-l|,  you  got  the  cap,  you  got  the  rammer,  I'll 
take  the  hapoifir.    You  got  the  -  That's  all  you 
need.    TGE  is  on  the  LRV.    Okay,  vba.t  transport  - 
irtitt  eherge  you  got  there.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA   fivts  is  under  my  seat. 

CDR-EVA    Five,  okay,    You  got  5  there,  we  got  2  and  3  on 
the  Rover,  LCHU  blankets  are  open  100  percent, 
battery  cover  are  closed.     I  want  to  -  Push  that 
battery  cover  over  there  down  just  to  make  sure 
it  goes  down. 


LMP-EVA   The  warning  flag  is  up  ... 

CDR-EVA    It's  probably  that  -  Already,  huh?    Yes.     ...  down 
on  there. 


LMP-EVA 
06  17  30  09  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Rover  -  Rover  warning  was  up. 
Get  one  ri^t  there. 
It's  down. 


Tape  IO8A/33 


CDR-EVA    I'll  take  a  look  at  that  gage  again,  but  the  gage 

on  the  high  battery  looked  like  it  may  have  failed. 
Okay,  LCRU  blankets  are  open,  battery  covers  are 
closed  and  pushed  closed,  dust  LCRU  - 

liMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  the  SEP, 


CC  Okay,  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute  before  you  do.     You  got  a  second? 

Just  come  over  here  by  the  left  front  wheel.  I 
know  you  got  a  second.    Just  a  little  bit  closer 
to  the  left  front  wheel,  towards  me.    Oh,  that's 
good,  anywhere  in  there.    Wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  do  that  likewise?    Or  can  you  hold  it  with 
that  other  camera?    It's  already  set  at  30. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    And  you  might  want  to  take  a  couple   

CC  17,  Houston.    ¥e  think  somebody  lost  their  comm. 

Jack,  it's  probably  Gene  going  to  zero. 

06  IT  32  03    LMP-EVA    You  read  us.  Bob? 

CC  Roger.     Read  you  now. 


LMP-EVA  Bob,  do  you  read  Gene? 

CC  Reading  you.  Jack.    I  haven't  heard  Gene  yet. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  Gene's  calling  you. 

CC  You  read  me . 

CDR-EVA  How  do  you  read  me.  Bob? 


CC 


Okay,  read  you  now. 


Tape  108a/3^ 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  didn't  do  anything.    I  Just  jiggled  iiy 

MODE  switch  here.    Okay,  ve  got  2  and  3  on  the  EPs, 
plus  one  under  Jack's  seat.    LCRU  hlankets  are 
opened  100  percent;  hattery  covers  are  closed; 
dustbrush.    I've  got;  TGE,  I've  got;  mags  and 
polarization  filter  is  taken  care  of;  and  I'm  ready 
to  traverse  to  the  SEP, 

CC  Roger.    We  understand  TGE  stowed  and  you're  taken 

care  of  in  the  ccanm.  And  you  might  give  us  a  Rover 
read-out  either  now  or  when  you  get  to  the  SEP. 

CDR-EV      Okay;  we'll  see  which  is  convenient. 

CC  Yes.    SEP  is  prohahly  more  convenient  while  you're 

sitting  there  waiting  for  the  nav  to  warm  up  or 
initialize  -  waiting  for  ms  to  give  you  the  reading. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  checking  your  TV.    MODE  switch  is  1. 

I/IP-EVA   Hey,  Bob,  are  you  watching  LMP? 

CDR-EVA    Not  anymore  he  isn't.    I  took  the  TV.    Bob,  you 
still  read? 

CC  Roger.    Read  you  loud  and  clear.    We're  now 

wattling  the  LMP. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  just  wondered  because  I  just  took  the  TV. 
I  just  want  to  make  sure  we  got  comm  here. 

CC  Yes.    We're  reading  you  in  MODE  1. 

CDR-EVA   And,  for  your  information,  we  both  got  our  cover 
gloves  off. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  in,  that's  in,  that's  in.  Should 
have  d\i8ted  my  checklist  on  the  Rover.    I  can't 
read  down  there. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  old  tape  fix  on  the  SEP's  still  working. 


Tape  108A/35 


CC  Beautiful. 

LMP-EVA    There's  a  little  -  both  mirrors  have  a  little 

angulsir  displacement  but  not  more  than  5  degrees. 

CC  Sounds  like  that's  the  least  of  the  SEP's  problem, 

but  we  have  hope. 

06  IT  35  01    LMP-EVA    Okay,  you're  going  to  be  over  there,  huh?  I'm 

over  here. 

CDR-E7A    I  don't  believe  this. 

LMP-EVA    What's  the  problem? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  nothing.    That  roll  indicator  isn't  worth  a 
dingdong  . . ,  roll  10  degrees . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Roll  zero,  pitch  is  zero;  heading  is  291; 

distance,  001;  range,  000;  amps  hours  are  90  and  85; 
volts  are  65  65;  Sun  shadow  device,  by  the  way, 
is  0. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CCR-EVA    Batteries  are  100  and  off  scale  low,  and  motors 
are  all  off  scale  low. 

CC  Okay,  and.  Gene,  we'd  like  to  torque  to  2&7 ,  287. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  in  work.     Let's  see,  28?.     That's  a  heading 
from  Dodge  City  to  Tindall.     Okay,  27  28,  28? 
right  on  the  money. 

CC  Copy  that,  Geno.     And  -  - 

06  17  36  31    LMP-EVA    Bob,  1+5  -  I+5  Yankee  is  a  sample  -  sample  from  near 

the  SEP. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  tell  you.  Jack.    That  was  all  cut  out. 
LMP-EVA    Oh,  well.     I  got  the  sample  anyway. 


Tape  IO8A/36 


CC  We  copied  J; 5  Ysuikee  nea*  the  SEP.    That's  all  we 

ha\'e.    If  you  give  us  a  freHM  count  when  you  get 
done,  and  give  us  sai  a^roxiaate  location  for  the 
Rover,  at  least  erossvise  from  the  Y,  we'd  appre- 
ciate it.    And  we  also  need  SEP  receiver  power  and 
DSEA.  both  on.    And  we'd  like  the  cover  taped  back  - 
taped  down  when  you  get  done,  Jack. 

Clffl-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  keep  me  honest  on  those  rilles. 

IJ«P-EVA    Okay,  you're  okay  now.    Let  me  get  over  on  the 
rille.    I  don't  afee  - 

CDR-EVA    See  me? 

IMP -EVA    Ccane  on.    You're  good. 

CDR-SVA    Oh,  there's  the  SEP.    Wait  -  did  I  miss  this  other 
riUe? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,    There's  the  -  I'm  on  the  antenna. 
CDR-EVA    What  about  the  one  coming  west? 

liM'-EVA    That's  what  I  -  No,  you're  okay  on  the  one  west  - 
you're  way  away  ft-om  it. 

CDR-EVA    Oks^.    Going  to  loc*  back. 

LMP-EVA    You  want  to  look  -  head  towards  the  SEP.  You're 
okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh.  I  see  it  now.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA   Head  towards  it  and  then  turn  -  then  make  your 
turn, 

CDR-EVA    I  see  it.    I'll  go  over  to  it. 

liff-EVA   Matter  of  fact,  turn  on  these  tracks. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    I'm  in  good  shape.    I  see  it.    I  see  it. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  that  U5  Yankee  was  a  fine-grained  "basalt,  I 
think .    One  of  the  few  around  here .    That ' s  why 
I  picked  it  up. 


Tape  108A/3T 


CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

□6  IT  39  07  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 


Copy  that . 

Okay,  you  stopped? 

I'm  stopped  and  I'm  ready  to  go.  I'm  2  meters  to 
the  west  of  the  north  line. 

Copy  that . 

And  I  guess  I'm  certainly  within  5  meters  of  the 
transmitter. 

Okay,  we'll  get  that  in  the  photos.    And  Gene, 
how's  the  low  gain  located  -  oriented? 

It's  oriented  355  and  my  heading  is  352. 

Okay,  copy  that. 

Okay,  you  want  the  receiver  on  -  - 
Roger.    Both  -  - 
-  -  and  taped  down  again,  huh? 
Yes ,   ...  put  . . . 

Roger.  Both  the  receiver  and  the  recorder  on, 
both  switches  on  and  then  tape  the  cover  down. 

Okay,  good  luck. 

I  don't  know  if  that  tape  is  going  to  hold.  Okay, 
ON  and  ON.     Okay,  it's  taped  down  more  or  less. 

Thank  you. 

And  then  I  guess  I'm  supposed  to  get  on,  huh? 
Roger  on  that. 

Hey,  Bob,  the  NAV  RESET  has  been  -  NAV  RESET  is 
now  OFF  and  I'm  all  zeroed  up. 

Okay.    Copy  that.    And  we're  ready  for  you  guys 
to  roll. 


Tape  108A/38 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  vhat's  the  first  reinge  and  bearing  to  the 
Rover  saraple,  past  Jones? 

CC  Okay,  it  vill  be  I85  and  1.5  on  the  range. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  I85  and  1.5.    185  and  1-1/2.  Okay. 

06  17  ho  k6    LMP-EVA  Okay,  then.  Gene;  no  problem. 

UJP-EVA  Well,  shoot.    I've  forgotten  hew. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  that  Challenger  looks  pretty  from  here,  you 
know  it. 

liff-EVA    Yes.    Okay,  I'm  on. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

IMP-EVA    Did  I  want  a  chart? 
CDR-EVA  Ho. 

CC  No  charts.  Jack;  no  charts. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Got  it.    Got  it;  I85  and  1.5  and  I'm  going  to 
head  <m  at  about  012.    We  oijght  to  go  right 
throtig^i  Jones.    Oh,  baby  -  Jones. 

CC  Okay,  and.  Gene,  remenfcer  the  driving  fairly  slow  - 

or  fairly  well  controlled  the  first  300  meters , 
and  a  mark  at  the  end  of  the  antenna. 

CDR-EVA  Watch  that.  Jack,  watch  that  antenna  lean   

IMP-EVA  Uh-oh.    Keep  going. 

CDR-EVA  Look  to  you? 

LMP-EVA  Ok^  so  feir;  keep  going. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let's  do  that  again   

LMP-EVA  Yes . 


Tape  108A/39 


CDR-EVA    but  a  little  different.     I'll  pick  up  that 

same  spot,  I  can  see  right  where  I  was. 

CC  Okay.    Give  us  another  mark  when  you  start  up  on 

that  side. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We'll  give  you  a  hack.  Bob. 
IMP-E\'A    Okay.    You're  a  little  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I'm  ri^t  on  the  track.  Same  tracks  exactly. 
LMP-EVA    Well,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    That's  exactly  -  I  just  came  right  over.  Okay, 
we're  starting  Bob  - 


06  17  h2  36     CDR-EVA    MARK  it. 

CC  Copy  that. 


CDR-EVA    We  can't  go  too  far  in  this  heading.    We've  got 
a  big  hole  up  here. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Like  a  big  one. 

LMP-EVA   Wonder  if  that's  Rudolph? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  see,  this  is  east  -  looks  awf  -  it's 

a  double  crater  but  it's  much  bigger  than  I  thought 
Rudolph  would  be . 

No,  if  you're  where  you  think  you  are,  you're 
beyond  -  you're  east  of  Rudolph  quite  a  ways. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  I  think  you  ought  to  know  where  we  are  by  now. 
Bob. 

CC  Roger  that. 

LMP-EVA    Maybe  that's  Lewis  and  Clark. 

CC  After  you  give  me  a  mark  there,  we'll  give  you  - 

I'll  talk  to  you  about  it. 


Tape  IO8A/UO 


CDE-EVA 


CC 


I'm  sorry,  Boli.    I  guess  you  -  you  didn't  hear 
it.     I  -  ve're  passed  the  end  of  the  antenna  and 
we're  headed  south  or  north  -  northeast. 

Okay,  I   


CDR-EVA    That  screw  you  up? 


CC 


CISi^A 


CC 


Did  you  give  me  a  mark  when  you  started  or  a  mark 
when  you  passed  the  antenna? 

I  gave  you  a  mark  when  I  started  and  it  took  about 
20  seconds  to  get  to  the  end. 

Okay,  copy  that. 


CIB-EVA    Is  that  good  enough  or  do  you  want  me  to  go  back? 

CC  No,    No.    Press  on.    And,  Jack,  if  you  look  at 

your  contour  map  there,  we  think  you  are  located 
right  now  at  approximately  where  the  P  in  SEP  is , 
just  below  the  P  in  Poppy.    In  which  case  you're 
probably  driving  through  that  little  crater  that's 
just  to  the  northeast  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  That's  probably  the  one  you  came  upon. 

CDE-EVA    Kot  very  little,  though. 


I^ff'-EVA 


06  17  hk  59  LMP-EVA 


Okay ,  Bob . 
better. 


Boy,  I  wish  I  could  see  a  little  bit 


The  major  houlders  still  look  like  the  -  the 
pyroxene  gahhro.     Surface  textiire  has  not  changed. 
There  is  a  -  there  is  a  granule  population,  now 
that  I  look  at  it  more  closely ,  with  the  shadows . 
But  I  have  a  feeling  that  most  of  those  are  - 
they  look  like  they're  just  small,  very  small  clods. 
That  shotild  show  up  in  some  of  the  bulk  samples 
weVe  taken.    It  is  remarkable  to  me  the  -  only  a 
small  nmher  of  fine-grain  rocks.    There's  one  at 
about  halfway  between  the  SEP  and  the  LM  that  I'd 
like  to  pick  up,  it's  a  fairly  good  sized  one. 
Maybe  we  can  get  it  when  we  get  hack.     It  looks  like 
a  fine-grained  "basalt.     I  may  have  sampled  one  in 
U5  Yankee  there . 


Tape  108a/1h 


CDR-EVA    Well,  I  tell  you,  it's  not  exactly  the  greatest 
place  to  navigate  through. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  you  ought  to  hear  left,  don't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That's  -where  I'm  going  here.     I  just  want 
to  get  across  this  mounted  boulders . 

06  17  h6  12    uMP-EVA    There's  still  -  there's  a  crater  we're  just  passing 

at  207.^  about  20  meters  in  diameter,  with  the 
pyroxene  gabbro  blocks  on  the  rim,  few  of  them. 
It's  not  an  exceptionally  blocky  rim  crater,  but 
we  are  in  an  area  where  the  block  population  is 
up  to  about  5  percent  in  contrast  to  most  of  the 
area  we  traversed  yesterday. 

CDR-EVA  I  tell  you,  going  is  a  little  bit  rough;  there's 
a  population  of  blocks  as  Jack  said  and  there  is 
an  awful  lot  of  small  craters. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  was  just  going  to  add  that  the  frequency 
of  craters  in  the  10-meter  size  range  is  quite  a 
bit  higher  than  we  were  used  to  yesterday.  Oops, 
there's  one. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Snuck  up  on  you.     And  they  all  -  although  not  ex- 
ceptionally blocky  rim  -  they  all  have  a  slightly, 
maybe  2  or  3  or  5  percent  more  blocks  in  their 
walls  and  on  their  rim  than  do  the  -  does  the 
normal  terrain. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Still  no  -  still  no  obvious  structure  within  the 
dark  mantling  material  itself. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  said  I85/I.5? 

CC  That's  affirm. 


LMP-EVA 


What  do  you  want?    For  the  Rover? 


Tape  IO8A/U2 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  for  a  sample. 

IMP -EVA    Oh,  they  changed  It  on  us.     Okay.     Okay  -  there's  - 
still  seeing  the  little  pit-bottom  craters  with 
the  glass  in  them.    I've  forgotten  the  acronym 
already.  Boh,  I'm  sorry.    And  you  asked  me  for  an 
LMP  frame  count  awhile  hack  and  I  believe  it  was  5. 
That  was  at  the  SEP. 

CC  That  was  after  the  SEP  photos,  rigjit? 

IMP-EVA    That's  affirm.    Negative;  that  was  before  the  SEP 
jAiotos . 

CC  Copy  that, 

06  17  hQ  39    IMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  looking  up  at  the  North  Massif,  we  see 

the  scattered,  strewn  field  of  boulders,  that 
generally  seem  to  start  from  a  -  more  or  less, 
from  a  line  of  large  boulders ,  which  might  in- 
dicate some  structure.    And  those  lines  axe  roughly 
horizontal  across  the  face  that  we're  looking  at. 
The  boulder  tracks  are  irregular  in  shape,  obvi- 
ously downhill,  but  you'll  see  in  the  pictures 
that  they  -  that  they  are  curved  in  places  but 
they're  all  -  that  I  see  -  tend  to  be  aggregates 
of  little  craters  -  where  the  boulder  was  ob- 
viously tumbling  and  bouncing  a  little  bit.  We're 
out  in  population  of  fragments  now  in  the  immedi- 
ate area  at  1  -  is  that  I88? 

06  17  h9  52    CDR-EVA  188/0.9. 

LMP-EVA    It's  generally  about  1  percent  between  craters. 

But  at  the  crater  rims,  it's  up  to  about  5  percent. 

CC            Okay.    Copy  that.  Jack.    And  how  far  down  the 
North  Massif   

LMP-EVA    And  these  craters   

CC  -  -  is  the  line  of  boulders? 


Tape  108A/1+3 


LMP-EVA    Oh,  there  are  several  of  them.  Bob.     What. I'm 

talking  about  is  about  lOO-meter-long  lines  where 
the  boulder  trains  initiate  and  they  are  -  there's 
one  about  -  looks  like  about  halfway  -  maybe 
two- thirds  of  the  way  down  in  perspective. 
Another  one  that's  probably  about  halfway  -  they're 
Just  sort  of  scattered  aroimd  on  the  Massif. 


LMP-EVA    I  think  we're  getting  close  to  -  Ko,  we  couldn't 
be . 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  to  move  over  here  a  little. 
LMP-EVA    That  must  be  Jones. 
CDR-EVA    Where  are  you  looking? 
LMP-EVA    Off  to  the  right. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  our  heading  that  they're  sending  us  down 

here,  it  really  should  put  us  to  west  of  Jones. 
So  that's  about  right.    A  lot  of  static  in  the 
background  today. 

06  17  50  58    CO  Yes ,  I  think  we  are  talking  to  you  guys  through 

the  LM  right  now,  and  how  about  a  speed  reading? 

06  17  51  oh    CDR-EVA  Okay.    We're  at  12  clicks  and  we're  FULL  BORE. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

06  17  51  2k    CDR-EVA  187/1.1. 

CC  Copy  that. 

06  17  51  36    LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  wish  I  could  give  you  more  on  that  structure 

in  there,  but  I  think  those  lines  of  boulder 
sources  are  about  all  we  can  see  right  now.  Talked 
about  the  lineaments  yesterday  and  they're  not  nearly 
as  obvious  today  in  the  higher  Sun.     Looking  up 
Wessex  Cleft  -  even  with  the  Sun  in  the  flat  area 
there,  it  looks  darker  than  where  -  that  North 
Massif  side.    But  again,  the  Sun  angle  may  be 
fooling  us  but  I  recall  it  was  darker  on  the  photos . 
The  old  man  wrinkled  face  on  the  -  - 


Tape  108A/ltU 


CDR-EVA    Scoolptured  Hills. 

LMP-EVA  Sculptttred  Hills ,  though ,  is  evident  as  soon 

as  you  come  out  of  the  Wessex  Cleft. 


END  OF  TAPE 


1 


Tape  108B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  17  52  37    CMP  Hey,  this  is  interesting.    Mag  Mike  Mike,  we're 

on  172. 


CC 
CMP 


Roger.    We  copy  mag  Mike  Mike  on  172. 

. . .  thejr  just  put  that  decal  for  the  heck  of  it , 
Do  I  use  the  rest  of  them  for  targets  of  oppor- 
tunity? 


CC  Stand  by.    I'll  check  with  Chuck  here. 

06  17  53  1*7    CC  Ron,  we  don't  think  Mike  Mike's  got  anything  left 

on  it,  but  if  you  -  if  you  can  use  it  for  targets 
of  opportunity,  but  it's  not  supposed  to  have. 

CMP  Well,  it's  clear  we've  got  one  or  two  of  them  left 

here,  you  know,  and  I'll  just  keep  it  handy,  and 
take  them  until  -  until  the  . . .  turns  red,  you 
know? 

CC  Roger. 

06  17  5h  09    CMP  The  next  one  might  be  the  last  one  (laughter). 

06  17  59  it9    CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Is  there  any  way  the  Surgeon  there  can  tell  which 

-  which  two  things  are  out  of  service  or  is  it  all 
three  of  them  or  -      You  know,  those  things  come 
in  packages  of  twos,  not  threes. 

CC  Okay.    Why  don't  you  say  it  again,  Ron?    I  just 

punched  up  the  Surgeon  here.  Why  don't  you  say  it 
again,  please? 

CMP  Okay.    Is  there  any  way  the  Surgeon  can  tell  which 

lead  needs  to  be  fixed  or  which  two  leads,  because 
the  ...  of  all  thos  e  things  come  in  packages  of 
twos,  you  know? 


Tape  loaB/2 


06  18  01  07    CC  Hey,  Ron,  we  Just  talked  it  over  down  here.  EKG 

is  good  and  just  forget  the  TPS  for  another  day. 
Just  go  EKG  and  forget  the  ZPN.    That's  compli- 
ments of  Dr.  Z, 

CMP  Oh,    Hey,  beautiful.    No  wonder  it  looked  kind  of 

erratic,  because  I  didn't  even  have  2PK  on 
(laughter). 

06  18  01  1^3    CMP  Yes,  last  night  I  moved  those  -  moved  all  three 

sensors  on  the  EKG  to  different  spots  and  put 
some  of  that  cream  stuff  on  them,  and  I  think 
that  helped. 

CC  Roger.    He  can  tell  and  he  noticed  that.    And  it's 

in^jroved  their  sigaal  on  the  EKG  part. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

06  18  17  17    CC  Ron,  we're  about  ready  to  lose  you  in  about  10 

minutes.    Everything's  fine.    We'll  make  one  more 
final  go-around  the  room  before  you  go  out  of 
sight.    I'm  watching  your  buddies  down  there. 
They're  up  against  a  rock,  which  is  about  twice 
as  tall  as  they  are,  and  they're  trying  -  pounding 
away  on  the  side  of  It.     Doesn't  look  like  they're 
having  much  luck  getting  anything  off  of  it,  but 
they're  beating  on  it. 


CMP 


(Laughter)    Tell  those  guys  that  if  they  don't 
roll  a  rock  down  a  crater  -    They're  supposed  to 
do  that  for  me. 


CC  Right.    I  think,  I  think  Jack  got  the  nickname 

TvrLnkle  Toes"  last  night.  He  was  bouncing  around 
very  graceful.  Every  time  he'd  hit  the  rock,  he'd 
fall  over  down  there, 

06  18  17  59    CMP  (Laughter)    Oh,  great. 

06  18  23  k3    CC  Ron,  everything's  looking  good  as  you  go  here  to 

n)S;  no  problems  at  all.    Your  buddies  are  down 
at  station  6  ri^t  now. 


CMP 


Oh,  okay.    We  thank  you  much. 


Tape  108B/3 


CC 

06  18  2k  01  CMP 

06  18  k8  XX 

06  19  13  32  CMP 
06  19  13  k2  CC 
06  19  13  h6  CMP 
CC 
CMP 

06  19  15  12  CC 
06  19  15  26  CMP 

CC 
CMP 


06  19  l6  35  CC 


Okay.  See  you  aroimd  the  other  side.  On  the 
Flight  Plan  schediile  now  - 

(Chuckle)  Okay. 

BEGIH  LUITAR  REV  kO 


. . . ,  I  think. 
America,  Houston. 

Houston,  America.    Roger.     Loud  and  clear. 
How  you  doing  up  there,  Ron? 

Okay;  real  fine.    I  jvst  saw  a  -  part  of  these 
rilles  -  tjrpe  things,  and  it's  got  a  light-brown 
-  well,  dark-brown  -  it's  almost  a  mare-type 
coloring  -  heading  in  the  southeast-northwest 
direction.    And  it's  down  from  -  oh,  yes,  there's 
Saenger,  east  of  Saenger  yet.     Let  me  find  it  on 
my  map. 

Down  east  of  Saenger  there,  you  get  into  the  first 
ring  of  Arabia  or  the  second  ring  of  Arabia  there. 

Yes.    Hey,  you  know  this  is  -    Let  me  get  this 
picture.    This  is  the  first  time  I've  really  been 
able  to  see  that  first  ring  of  Arabia. 

You  think  ~  think  you  see  it,  huh? 

And  it  shows  up  as  -    Yes,    It  -  I'll  take  two  of 
them.     First,  I'd  better  get  the  dark  slide  out. 
The  way  the  Sun  is  shining  on  the  dam  thing,  and 
it  shows  up  as  a  bright  -  I'll  be  darned!  That's 
amazing!    It  shows  up  as  a  bright  ring,  just  like 
we  got  it  drawn  on  the  map.     You  know,  you  -  you 
get  a  brighter  albedo  all  the  way  around  to  the 
top  of  the  ring.    That  was  frame  120  through  - 
or  122  through  12k  on  mag  Oscar  Oscar. 

Okay,  Ron,  we've  got  a  -  a  Flight  Plan  update  and 
a  lunar  somder  pad,  if  you  want  to  take  it  before 
we  get  into  the  visuals  here. 


Tape  10aB/i+ 


CMP  Okay,  I  better  I  guess. 

06  19  17  51    CMP  Okay.    Frames  -  last  three  frames  before  128  were 

also  looking  east.    Okay,  we  had  an  update,  huh? 

CC  Lunar  sounder  pad  is  at  l66:kO  on  the  Flight  Plan. 

Let  s  do  that  one  first,  okay? 

CMP  Okay. 

06  19  18  19    CC  Okay.    T-start  time.  l66:l»2:12;  T-stop  time.  kV^lO. 

Okay.    T-start,  l66:U2:12,  and  T-stop  is  1+7:10. 

Good  copy.    I've  got  the  lunar  sounding  -  grazing 
attitude  VERB  k9  at  l67:28. 

CMP  7:28,  okay. 

S^^'^^r^^''^  attitude  a  little  hit;  it's 

283.  063,  and  328.  Over. 


CMP 
CC 


CC 

CMP 

CC 

CMP 
CC 


(Laughter)  That's  really  tweaking  it  up. 
283,  063,  and  328.  «  ^P- 

Roger.  And  over  there  at  l67:55  where  it's  -  the 
antenna  retract  bit? 

Yes;  ri^t. 

Okay.  It's  pretty  obvious  we  want  to  take  "HF 
antenna  2,  retract"  and  move  it  above  "HF  anten- 
na 1.  We'll  call  for  the  retract  -  make  sure 
we  re  ready,  and  we'll  also  cue  it  on  our  cue. 
Ron.  What  we  want  to  do  is  look  at  HF  antenna  2 
retract  all  the  way,  get  the  times,  et  cetera, 
and  then  we'll  go  ahead  and  retract  HF  antenna  1. 

Oh,  okay.    Sounds  reasonable. 

06  19  20  11    CC  Okay,  Ron.  we're  all  Just  standing  by.    That  takes 

care  of  the  Flight  Plan  updates,  and  we're  Just 
standing  by  for  your  visuals.    This  pass  you're 
to  concentrate  on  the  landing  site  and  the 
B-Caldera,  you  know? 


CMP 


Tape  108B/5 


CMP  Okay. 

06  19  20  39    CC  Ron,  we  want  to  concentrate  on  the  small-scale 

featiires,  and  your  binoculars  may  be  what  you 
need.    We  want  to  look  at  the  dark-halo  craters 
in  the  site  area  and  examination  of  D-Caldera  with 
the  binocs. 

CMP  Okay.    That  sounds  like  a  good  idea.    We'll  see 

what  we  can  -  (Laughter)    That's  crazy.     I  go  over 
in  Inertial  attitude,  and  every  time  I  look  out 
the  window,  I've  got  to  look  in  a  different 
direction. 

CC  Roger;  we  understand. 

CMP  (Laughter)    It's  fvmny. 

06  19  22  lU    CC  Hey,  Ron,  when  you  come  up  on  the  landing  site, 

we  would  like  you  to  concentrate  on  Shorty  Crater 
and  F  Crater  and  then  the  other  dark-halo  craters. 
As  you  know,  as  I  told  you  last  night.  Shorty 
ended  up  with  some  orange-colored  material  that 
looks  an  awful  lot  like  a  fuma  -  fumara  -  event 
anyway  -  fmnarole.    And  it  locks  -  - 

CMP  Fumarole . 

CC  -  -  an  awful  lot  -    Yes,  okay  (laughter).  Looks 

an  awful  lot  like  it  and  what  we're  trying  to  do 
is  see  what  you  see  from  there,  and  that  may  give 
us  some  correlation  on  some  of  these  other  ones. 

06  19  22  1.9    CMP  Okay.    I  got  to  take  a  look  and  see  which  one's 

Shorty. 


CC 


Ron,  it's  the  dark  crater  on  the  slide,  the  dark 
crater  on  the  slide. 


06  19  23  13    CMP  Oh.  okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  109A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


C6  IT  52  22    LMP-EVA    Yes.    And  they  look  like  there  are  houlders  up  on 

the  side  of  Sculptiired  Hills  ,  except  that  they 
aren't  nearly  as  hlg  as  those  on  the  North  Massif. 
The  areas  where  the  "boulder  source  is  look  like 
they're  made  up  of  boulders  no  bigger  than  a  meter 
maybe;  whereas,  the  North  Massif  coulders  are  up 
to  several  meters.    Those  boulder  sources  all  seem 
to  be  up  within  a  third  of  the  height  of  the 
Sculptured  Hills,  just  south  of  -  just  east  of  the 
massif  -  of  the  Wessex  Cleft.    Here  is  a  boulder 
track  that  crossed  the  slope.    See  that,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    Yes  -  yes.    I  sure  do  now. 

LMP-EVA    It  looks  like  it  goes,  rather  than  perpendicular 

contours,  it  probably  is  crossing  them  in  a  fairly 
straight  line  on  an  angle  of  60  degrees,  maybe. 

CDR-EVA    Back  to  the  east. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  to  the  east.     That  one  may  be  fairly  near   

CDR-EVA    Jack,  see  that  big  boulder  with  that  big  track  - 
it  looks  like  it's  an  elongated  rolled-up  boulder. 
Look  at  that. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  does.    Looks  like  it  may  be  broken  now. 
CDR-EVA    Bob,  what  did  you  say  -  188/2  point  something. 
CC  2.8. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  thank  you.     See  that  big  boulder.  Jack,  with 
those  tracks? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  looks  like   

CDR-EVA    That's  funny  looking  boulder. 

LMP-EVA    It  looks  like  it  may  have  stopped  rolling  because 
it  broke  up. 

CDR-EVA    Looks  broken  to  me  now. 


Tape  109A/2 


CDR-EVA    Boy,  they've  got  the  low  gain  right  on.    But,  I 
tell  you,  we  still  got  static. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  have  any.  Gene.    You  may  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  sure  do. 

LMP-EVA     ...  Okay,  you've  got  yourself  in  some  holes  here. 

You've  never  -  I've  read  you  all  along,  though,  so 
there's  no  problem.    Okay,  there's  a  big  crater. 
I  haven't  recognized  Jones  yet.    Looks  like  you're 
getting  up  on  the  rim  of  Henry  here . 

CDR-EVA    Yes  -  no ,  Henry  should  be  to  -  I  'in  well  -  should 
be  well  west  of  Henry,  I  think.     I  wouldn't  be 
surprised  if  Henry  isn't  right  over  that  little 
rise  on  the  right. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  surface  structiire  hasn't  changed  textiire. 
We're  on  a  little  bit  of  a  rise  in  here  now  and 
still  about  1  percent  of  the  surface  -  - 

06  IT  57         CDR-EVA    There's  Henry  right  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    There's  Henry. 

CC  Okay,  how  about  a  range  and  bearing. 

LMP-EVA    I  thought  you  were  close  to  Henry. 
CDR-EVA    Yes.  188/1.8. 

LMP-EVA    And  we're  just  southwest  of  Henry. 
CC  Okay.     Copy  that, 

LMP-EVA    On  the  rim.     Oh,  Prince  Henry  the  Navigator. 
CDR-EVA    Watch  that  foot, 

LMP-EVA    It's  called  a  wheel,  I  think.    And  Henry  looks 

much  like  Horatio  did.     Has  boulders  on  its  inner 
wall  -  not  as  many.    They  look  light  colored  - 
a  light  eilbedo  gabbroic  appearance.    There  may  be 
some  right  down  there,  though,  that  are  fine 
grained;  they  look  a  little  grayer. 


Tape  109 A/ 3 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  there's  our  target  -  there's  -  either  one  of 
that's  one  right  down  there  on  -  on  ...  break  in 
slope. 

IMP-EVA    See  the  one  we've  got  over  there  has  a  boulder 
track.    That's  the  one,  that  crcssslope. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  if  we  could  get  up  high   

LMP-EVA    Can  we  get  up  there? 

CDR-EVA    We'll  see. 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  one  -  That's  station  6,  and  that  was 
the  -  the  turning  boulder. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  that's  it. 

LMP-EVA  The  one  right  there. 

CDR-EVA  Station  6  -  we  can  probably  get  up  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Here  we  are  -  1.5  and  I85. 

CC  Okay;  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  is  this  a  Rover  sample? 

CDR-EVA  A  Rover  sample. 

LMP-EVA  Okay  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Tell  me  where  you  want  it . 

LMP-EVA    see  that  little  pit  right  over  there  about 

30  feet  ahead. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  think  so. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I've  got  two  pictures  there. 
CDR-EVA    How's  that? 

LMP-EVA    That's  great.    Okay,  this  is  soil  sample  -  Hey, 
Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  I  Just  took  a  locator;  and  CDR  is  on 
frame  hi. 


Tape  109A/1+ 


LMP-EVA 


Got  it? 


CDR-EVA 


Oh,  not  yet. 


CC 


Copy  that. 


CDR-EVA 


Right  now.    Bag  kO  -  kS  Yankee. 


CC 


Copy  that. 


CDR-EVA 


Your  bag  open? 


LMP-EVA 


Yes. 


06  IT  5^  h2  CDR-EVA 


Okay,  it's  in. 


LMP-EVA  -  We  oiight  to  tape  that  head  down  if  we  can  re- 
member it  next  stop.  It's  in  the  way  of  -  it's 
sticking  up. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  get  it.    That  thing  came  down  -  came 

off  that  piece  of  Velcro.  I'll  get  it  when  I  get 
back. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  LMP's  frame  count  is  35. 
CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  I'd  like  a  -  bearing  and  range. 


Okay.     Bearing  and  range  for  the  large  block,  just 
beyond  -  let's  see,  it's  just  beyond  the  crater 
Henry.     The  large  clock  there  near  the  break  of 
the  slope,  which  is  our  next  aiming  point.  The 
bearing  and  range  there  is  l88  and  2.8. 


CDR-EVA    188  and  2.8.  Roger. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  do  you  -  what  do  you  see  in  the 

way  of  boulders  coming  down  the  base  of  the 
Sculptured  Hills,  in  terms  of  sampling  opportuni- 
ties of  station  8  and  in  terms  of  any  boulder 
tracks  that  we  might  -  might  lead  down  to  boulders 
that  might  just  possibly  be  accessible  at  sta- 
tion 8. 

LMP-EVA    Roger,  Gene.    Boiilder  tracks  are  not  obvious  on 


Sculptured  Hills  at  all.     It  looks  like  there  are 
fragments  over  there  that  would  have  had  their 
sources  higher  up  the  slope.     I  think  we  can  get 
boulders  there . 


Tape  109 A/ 5 


CC  Okay;  copy  that.    We'll  see   

CDR-EVA    We'll  have  to  get  a  little  closer.  Bob. 

CC  We'll  find  out  in  a  couple  of  hours. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  will  give  you  a  reading  on  that  before  long. 

I  wouldn't  eliminate  station  8  for  the  world  -  or 
the  Moon,  whatever 's  available  today. 

LMP-EVA  I  think  we  can;  it  doesn't  look  too  bad.  At  the 
break  in  slope,  right  now,  doesn't  show  anything 
obvious,  except  that's  where  the  boulders  start. 

CC  Okay,  we  hope  that's  fairly  obvious. 

06  17  59  09    LMP-EVA    And  on  up  the  hill  you  have  . , .  - 

LMP-EVA    But  as  I  was  saying,  Henry  just  looks  like  some- 
what more  mantled  Horatio  (laughter).    Getting  to 
be  ridiculous. 

CDF-EVA    Say,  Bob »  I'm  navigating  -  headed  northwest  now  - 
to  get  around  the  western  rim  of  Heniy. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    And  on  that  west  rim,  we've  got  about  10  or  - 
10  percent  boulder  cover. 

CC  Okay.    And  a  reminder.  Jack,  to  keep  taking  your 

Rober  photos. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.     And  when  I  -  By  boulder,  I  generally 
mean  fragment,  Bob,  in  this  case.    When  I  say 
10  percent,  I'm  looking  at  stuff  greater  than 
about  a  centimeter  in  diameter.     I'll  try  to  say 
fragment  from  now  on  and  be  more  precise.  Okay. 
Here's  a  little  area  where  there's  -  This  part  of 
Henry  -  this  is  the  one  part  of  the  rim  of  Henry 
I  see  that  has  fairly  large  fragments  ,  or  boulders , 
on  them  up  to  2  or  3  meters.    But,  again,  they 
all  appear  to  be  buried.    There  are  very  few, 
except  small  ones,  sitting  out  on  the  surface. 


Tape  109A/6 


06  18  00  32    CDR-EVA    And,  you  know,  the  fragment  population  out  here 

only  goes  out  to  maybe  200  meters ,  I  expect . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Now  this  concentration  of  houlders  is  he- 
cause  of  a  50-meter  crater  in  the  rim  of  Henry. 

CC  Okay,  say  that  sounds  like  a  lot  ...   

LMP-EVA    I  think  that  was  one  that  we  - 

CDR-EVA    Take  a  picture  in  here,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    No.    Locke,  I  can  see  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  getting  the  picture. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     That's  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  Locke's  right  ahead  of  us. 

LMP-EVA    This  is  one  on  the  -  about  50  meters  right  on  the 
rim  crest  of  Henry,  almost  due  -  the  west  rim  - 
due  west  rim.    Now  Locke  is  just  ahead  of  us.  It 
also  has  boulders  in  its  walls  but  has  relatively 
few  on  the  rim. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Characteristic  of  both  Henry,  Locke,  and  Horatio 
is  a  re  -  essentially  no  change  in  the  average 
frequency  of  boulders  on  the  rim.    The  increase 
comes  in  the  wall. 

CDR-EVA    We're  at  l81|/2.3.    We're  Just  about  between  Henrv 
and  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Locke . 

Locke.    Yes;  right  between  them. 

Okay.    I  copy  that.    And  you  guys  are  heading  for 
that  big  boulder,  which  must  be  just  dead  ahead  of 
you  there,  about  half  a  kilometer. 

Well,  we're  -  Gene's  sort  of  headed  for  station  6 
now. 


CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 


Tape  109 A/ 7 


CER-EVA    I 'm  going  to  take  a  toixr  around  that  boulder  and 
get  a  case  on  it, 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Go  ahead. 

CC  Yes .    That  would  be  a  good  mark  to  give  us  a  range 

and  bearing  on,  since  that's  a  pretty  good  straight 
point. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we  are. 

06  18  02  09    LMP-EVA    Bob,  the  boulder  concentrations  in  the  wall  of 

Henry  have  their  upslope  start  at  about  -  oh ,  I 
wovild  guess  an  average  of  30  meters  down  from  the 
rim  crest.    The  rim  crest  of  Henry  is  not  very 
well  defined,  but  it's  there.     And  they  -  from 
that  initiation  of  boulders ,  they  stream  down  the 
slope  to  the  break  in  -  in  slope  down  at  the  floor. 
Still  no  obvious  change  in  the  dark  mantle,  as 
we're  just  to  the  east  of  Locke  now.  There's 
some  -  there's  a  30-meter  crater,  fairly  subdued 
but  still  q^uite  deep  -  subdued  rim.     Again,  it 
looks  as  if  it  were  mantled;  that  -  has  no  sig- 
nificant increase  in  blocks  on  its  rim.  That 
crater,  in  any  other  place,  would  have  been  a  very 
blocky-rim  crater.     It  has  -  its  maybe  30  meters 
and-  by  5  meters  deep.    Man,  that  is  a  big  rock 
up  there.    Turning  Point  Rock  is  a  split  rock  - 
has  a  -  looks  like  a  northwest-southeast  overhang, 
with  another  block  just  this  side  of  it  -  just  to 
the  south  of  that  overhang.     It's  a  pyramid  shape 
in  cross  section  -  triangular  shape  in  cross  sec- 
tion.    And  it  looks  like  it  is  pretty  well  frac- 
tiired,  although  not  pervasively  like  the  rock  at 
Shorty  was. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  I  know  I  can  get  up  to  that  -  to 
station  6. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  might  drive  up  there. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  Now,  Bob,  station  6  rock  -  one  of  them  - 
is  from  that  boulder  track  that  runs  obliquely 
across  the  contour. 


Tape  109A/8 


CC  Okay.     I  copy  that.  Jack.     Sounds  like  good  news. 

LMP-EVA    And  there's  -  the  pictures  ought  to  be  able  to  - 
the  pictures  ought  to  pin  down  its  -  at  least  the 
end  of  the  boulder  track  pretty  well. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  this  is  a  big  rock,  Jack.  Whew. 

LMP-EVA    As  I  recall  -  as  I  saw  it,  the  boulder  tracks 

stopped  about  halfway  up  the  slope  of  the  North 
Massif.    That  is  a  big  rock. 

CDR-EVA    We're  at  Turning  Point  Rock.     And  it  looks  like 
it's  -  I  don't  know  if  it's  mantled  on  top,  but 
it's  certainly  filleted.    There's  a  -  a  lot  of  the 
dark  mantle  up  and  on  some  of  the  shallower  slopes 
of  the  boulder.    And  it's  on  a  little  mound  itself, 
as  if  much  of  it  might  be  covered  up. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     Okay.     It  looks  like  a  breccia  from  here. 

CDR-EVA    Can  you  get  a  sample  of  it  right  here?    You  see 
these  little  chips? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  probably  can. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    I'm  3  meters  from  Turning  Point  Rock 
on  the  east  side,  and  I'm  reading  l86  and  2.8. 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that.  Sensational. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    You  got  to  -  can  you  drive  up   

CDR-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA    -  -  to  the  -  right  there,  let's  see  -  no ,  I  can 
get  them.    The  thing  is,  I  don't  know  what  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  but  ...  it's  part  of  these  fragments  around 
here.     I  guess  Turning  Point  Rock  is  1,  2,  3,  1+ , 
5,  6,  -  6  meters  high  anyway.     It's  a  -  Well,  I'd 
say  it's  a  very  rough  subrounded  type  of  rock  - 
by  the  face  -  let  me  get  this.  Jack.  Okay. 
There  are  two  fragments  in  that  sample. 


CDR-EVA 


1^7  Yankee. 


Tape  109A/9 


IiMP-EVA    Plus  some  dirt.    And  it's  about  h  meters  from  the  - 
Turning  Point  Rock  on  the  north  side. 

CC  Okay.    Cojy  that.    And  presime  you  got  some  good 

photos  of  the  rock. 

06  18  06  21    LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  got  a  couple.    I  hope  they're  good. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  tell  you  what  I'm  going  to  do  here, 
real  quick. 

LMP-EVA    And  vsy  locator  is  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  do  a  -  - 

LMP-EVA  5,  6. 

LMP-EVA    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  let  me  spin  around  this  little  crater  here 
to  the  left. 

DIP -EVA    Boh,  it  looks  -  it's  very  coarsely  vesicular;  but, 
at  first  glance,  it  did  not  look  like  the  pyroxene 
galsbro  -  although  the  rock  -  that  rock  does.    I  - 
It  looks  like  it  might  be  fragmental,  although 
I'm  suspicious  that  I'm  looking  at  zap  pits.  That'd 
he  a  -  Oh,  yes  -  Getting  them.     I  got  them.  Pick 
one.    That's  a  nice  view. 

CDR-EVA    And  we're  on  a  little  rise  looking  at  this  boulder. 
That ' s  incredible . 

06  18  07  15    CDR-EVA    Okay.    We're  on  the  roll.  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  know  that  - 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  my  guess  is,  right  now,  is  that  Turning  Point 
Rock  is  a  big  piece  of  subfloor  gabbro. 

CC  Okay.     I  gather  you  changed  your  opinion. 

LMP-EVA    What  looked  like  fragments  is  just  -  what  looked 

like  fragments  is  Just  big  spalls  -  spalls  of  where 
the  zap  pits  have  cleaned  off  the  rock. 


cc  Okay.     I  copy  that.     And,  guys,  you  might  be  happy 

to  know  that  we  think  we've  finally  found  the  LM, 
"because  we  were  calling  that  for  l88  and  2.8,  and 
you  got  there  at  l86  and  2.8. 

LMP-EVA    That's  not  bad.  Okay   

12    CDR-EVA    It's  a  split  one  up  there.  Jack.     I've  had  iny  eye 
on  it.    There's  some  big  boulders  down  here. 

LMP-EVA    Got  it.     I  sort  of  lost  track  of  station  6. 

CDR-EVA    How,  I  got  it.     I've  had  my  eye  on  that  boulder. 

You  can't  see  the  track  from  here.     I'll  bet  you 
can.     I  can  see  it  now.    We'll  see  it  -  we'll  be 
looking  right  up  it  -  looking  right  up  the  old 
boulder  track.    Man,  I  tell  you,  this  navigating 
through  here  is  not  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    We're  in  a  region  where  the  really  -  the 

general  fragment  population  is  no  different.  We're 
up  on  the  -  off  the  break  in  slope,  although  you 
wouldn't  notice  it  -  but  we  are  quite  a  ways.  And 
the  -  but  the  fragment  popiilation  is  not  much  dif- 
ferent than  that  on  the  plains.    The  big  difference 
is  that  there  are  these  scattered  blocks  that  are 
from  a  meter  to  probably  10  meters  -  no ,  5  meters 
in  diameter.    Hard  to  say,  maybe  8. 

CDR-EVA    See  that  track  coming  down?    We'll  be  looking  right 
up  that  track. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  yes,  you  got  it.     I  didn't  realize  you  were 
that  far  upslope. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we're  way  upslope. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Hit  it. 

CDR-EVA    Not  very  uncomfortable  for  me  on  this  side. 
(Laughter)    How  do  you  feel? 

LMP-EVA    Oh.  I  feel  fine.     I  just  -  until  I  looked  down 
there  and  saw  the  slope  we're  on. 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  know  it. 


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And  I  can't  see  axiy  obvious  change  in  allaedo,  like 
we  could  see  with  the  light  mantle  yesterday.     You  - 
you  -  You  got  a  -  don't  -  There  you  got  a  nice  - 
nice  place.    Oh,  oh,  you  don't  wajit  to  go  over  that 

I  can  make  it.     I  want  to  park  right  -  - 


And,  17,  you  want  to  park  at  a  heading  of  107; 
we're  going  to  open  the  hattery  covers  and  let 
them  cool  at  the  station.    To  a  heading  of  107. 

107,  huh?    Okay.    I'll  get  it  up  here. 

Hey,  that's  going  to  be  moderately  level  right 
there . 

Yes. 

Trouble  is,  they're  looking  into  the  shady  side  of 
the  block. 

Well,  if  I  park  on  the  other  side,  they  won't  be 
able  to  -  I  can  go  right  upslope  a  little  bit. 

That's  all  right.    We  can  work  in  there.  No, 
that's  all  right. 

Yes,  I  can't  go  up  there.    Let  me  just  -  This  is 
going  to  have  to  be  good.     I  can't  go  up  there. 

I  think  you're  all  right. 

That's  not  too  level,  but  -  - 

Oh,  not  too  -  not  too  hard.     Watch  that  turn. 

That's  not  very  level,  but  we're  not  going  to  get 
much  more  level  than  that. 

Oh,  that's  good. 

Let  me  -  they  wanted  107.     That's  the  best  I  can 
do.    That's  not  very  level  for  the  gravimeter, 
but  -  Let  me  see  if  I  can  get  comm.     Hey,  Bob, 
how  do  you  read? 


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CC 


Loud  and  clear,  17.    How  do  you  read? 


06  18  11  2k    CDR-EVA    Okay.    We're  parked  on  a  heading  of  10?.    Are  you 

happy  with  that? 

CC  Roger.    Sounds  great. 

LMP-EVA.    (Laughter)    You  parked  on  a  slope,  too. 

CDR-EVA    There's  no  level  -  there's  no  level  spot  to  park, 
here,  though. 

LMP-EVA    You  want  me  -  some  help  getting  off? 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  to  go  uphill. 

LMP-EVA    I  just  about  ended  up  down  at  the  bottom  of  the 
hill. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  192/3.8.  3-1;  88  and  8O;  IO8  and  0  on  the 

batteries.  The  forward  motors  are  220  and  270,  and 
the  rears  are  0  off  scale  low  and  220. 

LMP-EVA    You  want  me  to  block  the  wheels?     (Laughter)  You 
got  the  brake  on,  I  hope. 

CDR-EVA    You  betcha.     I  don't  know  if  I  can  lean  uphill  or 
not.     (Laughter)     I  can't.     Holy  Smoley.     Boy,  are 
we  on  a  slope ! 

LMP-EVA    You  okay? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Let  me  get  this  thing  set  again. 
LMP-EVA    I  don't  think  you  can  .  .  . 
CDR-EVA    Boy,  are  we  on  a  slope! 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  stay  out  from  between  the 
rocks.    It's  a  beautiful  east-west  split  rock. 
It's  even  got  a  north  overhang  that  we  can  work 
with.    And  let  me  see  what  it  is.    We're  right  at 
station  6.    You  wouldn't  believe  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  would.     Oh,  man,  what  a  slope! 

LMP-EVA    And  this  boulder's  got  its  own  little  track,  right 
up  the  hill,  cross  contoured.     It's  a  chain  of 


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craters  track,  and  it  looks  like  it  stops  ...  where 
it  started.     It  starts  in,  what  looks  to  be ,  a 
lighter  colored  linear  zone  -  trying  to  give  you 
perspective;  it's  probably  only  about  a  third  of  the 
way  up  the  North  Massif.    Bob,  are  you  reading  us? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear;  and  we  got  a  picture. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  I  tell  you,  are  we  parked  on  a  slope! 

I  don't  know  whether  your  TGE's  going  to  hack  it, 

CC  Okay.    It'll  pick  up  to  15  degrees. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  this  is  a  -  Well,  it  is  going  to  have  it. 

LMP-EVA    It's  a  coarsely  vesicular,  carystalline  rock  - 

finely  crystalline.    Looks  like  a  -  probably  an 
anorthositic  gabbro  -  trying  to  see  the  zap  pits. 
For  glass  color,  I.  don't  have  a  good  one  yet. 

CDR-EVA    Say,  Bob,  you  want  both  the  recorder  and  the  - 
and  the  other  switch  off? 

CC  Roger.    Both  of  those  off,  and  the   

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  it  is  hard  to  get  around  here. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  it  looks  like  the  glass  is  fairly  light 

colored.     It's  not  white.     Well  no  -  it's  black. 
It's  anorthositic  gabbro,  rather  than  gabbroic 
anorthosite,  I  think.    Yes,  that's  black  glass  in 
the  pits . 

CC  Okay.     And,  Gene,  did  you  happen  to  notice  the  ... 

on  the  stuff  when  you  dusted  them? 

CDR-EVA    I  didn't  dust  it  yet. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  some  of  the  vesicles  are  -  they're  flattened. 
All  of  them  are  flattened.    There's  a  strong 
foliation  of  vesicles  in  the  rock.    Most  of  them 
are  flattened,  and  they  are  up  to  15  or  20  centi- 
meters in  diameter  and  about  5  to  6  centimeters 
thick  -  or  wide. 

CC  Outstanding. 


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06  18  15  56    LMP-EVA    And  there's  some  beautiful  north  overhangs  all 

around  the  hlock.    Well,  (laughter)  on  the  north 
side  of  the  hlock. 

CC  Okay.    That's  the  best  place  -  that  north  overhang; 

and  I  guess  that  means  one  of  you  guys  might  grab 
the  SEC  -  the  small  can  -  before  you  leave  the 
Rover. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     It's  going  to  take  me  awhile  to  dust. 
I  tell  you  -  - 

UyiP-EVA  Okay  

CDR-EVA    Hard  to  get  around  here. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  let's  get  it  straight.     You  w  -  want  -  let's 

get  it  straight,  you  want  the  north  overhang  sample 
in  the  SEC  -  or  the  short  can? 

CC  Miracle  of  miracles.    They  don't  want  the  short 

can.  I'm  not  sure  I  understand  that.  Jack,  but 
they  don't  want  the  short  can  here,  they  say,  I 
guess  they're  looking  for  volcanic  today. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  we'll  put  them  in  bags.     Oh,  man  - 

CC  They're  looking  for  volcanic  today.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  they  are,  huh?    We  found  those  yesterday. 

CC  Well,  they're  hoping  again  at  station  9. 

LMP-EVA    This  is  -  Now,  that  foliation  I  mentioned  does 
not  go  all  the  way  through  the  rock.     There  are 
variations  in  texture.     One  zone  was  strongly 
foliated.    There's  another  -  it  almost  looks  like 
a  large  -  it  is  -  a  large  incliision  of  nonvesicular 
rock  within  the  vesicular  rock.    There  may  be  some 
autobrecciation  involved  in  the  formation  of  this 
thing.     It  really  looks  mineralogically  like  the 
light-colored  samples  from  the  South  Massif.  But 
I  -  I  tell  you,  that's  only  because  it's  light 
colored,  and  I  -  I  can't  give  you  anymore  than  that 
right  now,  until  we  get  a  fresh  surface. 


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CDR-EVA    110  degrees  on  the  SEP  and  you  want  the  tape  -  the 
cover  closed,  right? 

CC  Cover  open,  please.    Cover  open.     Both  off. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Cover's  open. 

CC  Okay.    And  did  you  get  the  batteries  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  my  golly. 

CC  -  the  LRV  "battery  covers  open.    We  didn't  copy 

that ,  Gene . 

06  18  18  20    CDR-EVA    No,  I  didn't  copy  that  you  wanted  them  open.  I 

just  got  107.    I  WELS  about  to  ask  you  that. 

CC  Okay.    We'd  like  them  open.    And,  Jack,  while  I'm 

interrupting  everybody  here,  how  about  a  frame 
count,  if  convenient. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  shoot!     Bob.     I  gave  you  one  at  the  rock. 
It's  now  68. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  I  never  -  (Laughter)    You  can't  believe  how 
tough  it  is  getting  around  this  Rover,  on  this 
slope. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  I'll  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Man,  that  -  I  think  we're  probably  pitch  20  and 
roll  20. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  I'll  get  over  here  and  get  a  pan  while 
we 're  ...  sample . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  I  got  to  dust  those  radiators.     I  can't  leave 
them  like  that.     I  tell  you,  this  is  not  a  very 
good  place  to  dust  them,  though.    Let  me  try  one 
time .    Oh ,  boy . 

LMP-EVA    Be  careful,  Geno.    Need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    Ko.     I  need  a  little  finesse,  though.     It's  one 
thing  to  reach  over  -  here  and  do  this  on  level 
ground,     I  don't  know  if  I  can  do  that  without 
falling  on  the  battery. 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  I  found  a  place  to  stand  where  I  can  take  a 
pan. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  going  to  have  to  give  you  a  good  battery 
brushing  at  the  next  site.     I  can't  get  -  I  get 
half  of  them,  but  I  can't  get  the  other  half.  It's 
too  slopey. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

CDR-E\^A    But  the  covers  are  open.    What  are  you  working  on 
Jack? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  taking  a  pan. 

CDR-EVA    Veiy  good.     I'm  coming  right  now.     I  bet  you  a 
dollar  to  doughnuts  that  you  don't  get  a  TGE 
reading. 

CC  Yes,  Gene.     If  you're  -  if  it's  easy  enough  to 

take  it  off,  why  don't  you  take  it  off  the  Rover; 
and  we'll  try  and  level  it  in  the  stuff. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  come  on.     (Laughter)     I'm  not  sure  there's 
any  place  to  put  it  on  the  ground  level. 

LMP-EVA   No,  you  have  to  dig  a  place. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  do  it.     Okay.     It's  coming  off.  Well, 
I'll  set  it  right  up  here, 

LMP-EVA    It's  going  to  fall  down  the  hill.    You'd  better 
stomp  off  a  good  place. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.    That  looks  level  to  me.     Can  you  see  it  from 
there? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I  can  see  it. 

CDR-EVA  I  mean,  does  it  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  know.    I  have  no  perspective  anymore. 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  either. 

06  18  21  3k    CDR-EVA  MARK.  Gravity. 

CC  Copy  the  mark   


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CDR-EVA    It's  flashing.    Okay;  now  let  me  get  to  work.  Okay. 

...  My  fender  got  a  little  kinked  here,  which  isn't 
going  to  help  us. 

CC  Hey,  Jack.    And  we  see  your  gold  visor  up?  You 

may  want  to  put  it  down  out  here  in  the  Sun. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  think  I  might  -  I  can't  see  with  it  down; 
it's  scratched.    Bob,  I'll  use  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I  can  monitor  that  one. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  I'm  standing  on  a  houlder  track.     How  does 
that  make  you  feel? 

CDR-EVA    That  mak;es  me  feel  like  I'm  coming  over  to  do  some 
sampling.    Think  how  it  would  have  been  if  you  were 
standing  there  before  that  boulder  came  by. 

LMP-EVA    I'd  rather  not  think  about  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let's  go.    You  got  a  spot  picked  while 
you're  here? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  the  big  thing  is,  let's  get  those  -  let's  get 
the  boulder  and  then  get  in  that  east-west  split . 
Bob,  I  got  an  undocumented  sample  from  the  middle 
of  the  boulder  track. 

CC  Copy  that.    Soil  sample? 

CDR-EVA  Whew! 

LMP-EVA    Soil  sample.    Gene,  if  you  hit  them  off  in  there, 
it's  going  to  be  awful  hard  to  find  them,  that's 
the  problem. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  pick  a  spot  -  a  good  spot  while  you  were 
over  here? 

LMP-EVA   No,  I  didn't.    I  just  was  looking  at  it .    I  think 
we  need  to  get  in  the  light,  though. 

CDR-EVA    I  -  I  can  see  with  my  gold  visor. 


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LMP-EVA    Let  me  put  a  sample  in  your  "bag. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA    It's  bag  -  shoot  -  it's  53I;, 

CDR-EVA    This  "boulder  looks  fairly  uniform  from  top  to 
bottom. 

LMP-CDR    We've  got  to  get  a  reference  sample  out  -  this 
soil. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  get  where  we  can  get  that  90-degree  picture, 
too;  so  we  want  to  get  on  the  -  really  ought  to 
get  on  the  Sun  side.     Let  me  get  that  slab  right 
there,  though,  to  start  with,    I  can  get  that  one 
off.    Well,  there's  no  -  let's  go  over  on  the  Sun 
side  beca\ise  we  can't  really  photograph  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I  got  to  get  out  of  here  first. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  go  through  the  split. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  okay.    Be  careful,  though.    Why  don't  we 
sample  the  split  first  so  we  don't  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  that  overhang.    Man,  I  tell  you,  if  you 
can  get  yoTir  shovel  down  there,  you'd  have  a 
ball. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  let's  sample  in  the  split  first  so  that  we 

don't  get  it  too  messed  up.     And  then  we  can  sample 
some  of  this  stuff.     Not  -  we  want  this  overhang 
over  here,  Geno  -  the  north  facing  one. 

CDR-EVA    Ri^t  here? 

LMP-EVA    Yes .    I  got  to  get  -  sneak  by  over  there .    Whoops ! 
Don't  shuffle  too  much  dirt  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    You  by  me  so  I  can  set  the  gnomon  down. 

LMP-EVA    Not  quite.    Don't  think  I  can  make  it  -  without 
hitting  you.    I  can't. 


CDR-EVA 


Okay.    Now  try  it. 


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LMP-EVA    Okay . 
CDR-EVA  Ready? 
LMP-EVA  Okay, 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  set  the  gnomon  down  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Set  it  down  just  outside  the  shadow  here.     Right  - 
Whoa  -  right  there.    That's  good.    There's  still 
some  good  clean  ground  there.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  can  get  "back  far  enough  to  take  these 

pictures .    I  want  to  go  get  a  stereo  pan  around 

the  comer  anyway.     Let's  see  if  I  can't  start 
here  with  ahout  5/6.     I'm  so  close. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I'll  get  a  - 

CDR-EVA    I  must  have  a  boulder  . . . 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  it.     Let  me  -  - 

CDR-EVA    -  I'm  going  to  go  around  the  cor  -  I  got  it  now. 
LMP-EVA    Okay.     You  got  a  hag? 
CDR-EVA    All  set. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  get  the  shadowed  material. 
CDR-EVA    It's  in  hag  312 ,  Bob . 
CC  Copy  312. 

LMP-EVA  And  it's  -  it's  from  -  I  think  you  saw  where  I 
got  it.  It's  about  a  half  a  meter  back  of  the 
limit  of  the  overhang.    Put  it  down.    Put  it  down. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Can  you  reach  it? 

LMP-EVA  I  will  in  a  minute.  You  can  turn  it  a  little  bit 
towards  me.  Okay;  312.  And  the  soil  outside  the 
overhang  will  be  next. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Go  get  it. 


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06  18  26  57    LMP-EVA    And  the  first  one  is  from  the  upper  2  centimeters. 
CDR-EVA    Bag  313. 
CC  Copy  313. 

LMP-EVA    And  the  second  one  is  from  probably  down  -  fron 
2  centimeters  down  to  about  8. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  it  looks  like  the  fragment  just  to  the  -  or  the 
boulder  just  to  the  south  of  us  has  some  inclusions 
in  it  -  light-colored  inclusions. 

CDR-EVA  Bag  k72  on  that. 

CC  Copy  1*72  on  that.    You  mean  the  south  half  of  the 
split  boulder? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    I  haven't  seen  inclusions  in  the  other  half. 

CDR-EVA  Okay?    Okay.    Now  we  need  boulder  stuff . 

LMP-EVA  You  happy  with  that,  Houston?    Let's  get  ... 

CDR-EVA  . . . 

LMP-EVA  Got  your  hammer? 

CC  Yes,  we're  happy  with  that  ... 

LMP-EVA  It's  a  little  hard,  huh?     I  think   

CDR-EVA  I've  got  to  find  a  comer  I  can  get  at. 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  get  an  after  picture  down  in  this  hole. 

IMP-EVA    Oh,  that's  right.     You  almost  stepped  on  the  - 
I  forgot  the  after,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  there  are  chips  up  here  on  top.    Also,  that's 
been  spalled  off. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 


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LMP-EVA   We  can  get  some  of  those,  but   

CDR-EVA    Looks  like  somebody's  been  chipping  up  there. 

mP-E^TA  Looks  like  there's  been  a  geologist  here  before 
us . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  the  gnomon,     I  think  I  can  get  some  of 
these  pieces  over  here.    I  want  to  get  that 
90-degree  angular  flight  line  aroiand  this  boulder, 
too. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  the  more  I  look  at  this  thing  -  here's  the 
piece  -tiiat  fell  off.  Here's  the  piece  that  was 
knocked  off  up  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Look  at  that. 

CDR-EVA    We  ought  to  bring  a  big  piece  of  that  home.  That's 
obvious  it's  obvious  -  - 

LMP-EVA    How  about  this  one  up  here?    Take  your  picture. 

I  think  we  can  just  lift  that  off.    See  that? 

CDR-EVA    Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    I'd  better  get   

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  a  locator  from  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  was  going  to  get  my  down-Sun,  but  I'm  ... 
CDR-EVA    You  may  be  down-Sun  if  you  do. 
LMP-EVA    Yes,  we'll  get  some.    Get  it? 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  will  it  come  off? 
LMP-EVA    Yes , 

CDR-EVA  Just  throw  it  in  my  bag.  It's  broken,  but  it's 
in  place.  That's  a  nice,  big  piece,  too.  It's 
about  the  size  of  a  -  - 


Tape  109A/22 


LMP-EVA    Don't  you  put  it  in  mine.     I  can't  get  a  thing 
in  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.  Got  it? 
LMP-EVA  Yes,  I  got  it. 
CDR-EVA    Don't  move. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  there's  a  big  spall  lying  on  the  ground 
here  that  has  been  knocked  off  up  there,  from  right 
on  top  of  the  boulder.     And,  I  tell  you,  the  more 
I  look  at  this  -  the  south  half  of  this  boulder, 
the  more  heterogeneous  in  texture  it  looks.  It 
looks  as  if  it  may  be  either  a  recrystallized 
breccia  of  some  kind,  or  you  had  a  gabbroic 
anorthosite  -  magma  catch  up  an  awful  lot  of 
inclusions.     I  guess  I  prefer  the  latter  explana- 
tion becaiise  of  the  extreme  vesicularity  of  the 
rock . 

CC  Okay;  very  interesting. 

LMP-EVA    Now,  some  of  the  -  a  few  of  the  inclusions  are  - 
well,  they're  all  subrounded  to  rounded,  and  a 
few  -  and  a  few  of  them  are  very  light  colored. 
I'm  going  to  try  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  coming  around  the  corner  ... 

LMP-EVA    Are  you  going  to  do  it  now?    Okay.    Well,  you  know, 
I  ought  to  get  one  shot  back  here  with  a  black  and 
white.    I'll  get  this  half ■  black  and  white. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  if  we  could  get  - 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we  ought  to  pick  up  a  piece  of  that  spall 
there  by  the  gnomon  - 

CDR-EVA    I  can  break  it  off. 

LMP-EVA    There's  one  right  by  the  gnomon  we  can  just  pick 
up.    It's  a  finer-grained  vesicular  rock  than  - 
wait  -  where  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  oh,  oh,  oh  - 


Tape  109 A/ 23 


LMP-EVA    I  thought  I  was  going  to  get  this  half • 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I  don't  care.    I've  started  down.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  they  like  to  have  some  of  it  in  black  and 
white ,  you  know. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  that  rock. 

LMP-EVA    I  forgot  to  look  at  the  objectives  for  this 
station.     I  hope  we're  meeting  them. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we  want  to  get  500s  of  that  boulder  track. 
I  know  I  want  to  get  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    A  piece  of  that  Spalled  rock  that  was  sitting 
by  the  gnomon  -  Ooh,  watch  out  gnomon.    How  about 
that?  -  is  in  -  bag  535- 

CDR-EVA    You  got  one  in  there  already? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that  one.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    You  won't  be  able  to  reach  -  you  won't  be  able  to 
reach  zay  bag. 

LMP-EVA    No,  but  you  can  put  it  in  mine.    Can  you  reach  it? 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  darn  it. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  one  of  the  light-colored  inclusions  looks  like 
it  may  be  anorthositic  -  gabbroic  anorthosite  - 
Let  me  get  my  terms  straight.     The  host  rock  has 
dark  enough  zap  pits  that  it's  probably  gab  - 
anorthositic  gabbro,  if  I  didn't  say  that.  Some 
of  the  light-colored  inclusions  have  slightly 
lighter  colored  glass ,  and  they  may  be  the  gab- 
broic anorthosite. 

CC  Okay,  I  copy  that.  Jack. 


LMP-EVA 


Incliisions  like  this  one  and  that  one. 


Tape  109A/2lt 


CDR-EVA  Some  of  those  inclusions  get  to  "be  bigger  than  the 
size  of  a  baseball.  There's  one  here  and  a  couple 
up  there. 

LMP-EVA    Let  be  borrov  your  hammer. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Jack,  try  a  little  higher.    See  that  one 
ri^t  on  the  -  right  there.    Ri^t  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  a  hard  rock. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  a  hard  rock.    You  mi^t  be  able  to  do 
it;  I  can't. 

CDR-EVA  I  can't  get  down  there.  Okay,  we  need  some  of  the 
soil  outside  the  shadow  here. 

LMP-EVA    Yes .    How  about  over  where  your  bag  went?    Let ' s 
move  around  here  -  I  think  there  is  some  -  oops! 
Get  on  this  slope  over  here.    Okay.    How  about 
out  over  here?    Are  we  supposed  to  get  a  - 
Where  are  we  here? 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know.    I'd  like  to  get  -  When  you  face 
uphill,  your  camera  faces  down. 

LMP-EVA   We  want  to  get  a  rake  on  the  rim  of  that  little 
crater  down  there,  I  guess. 

CC  Okay,  17.    Roger.    You  were  asking  about  objectives. 

Of  covirse  the  primary  objective  is  docu  -  documented 
samples  of  the  blocks;  and  then,  also,  we'd  like 
to  get  some  of  the  rake  and  soil  sample  out  in  the 
surface,  namely,  the  rim  crater  there,  if  that's 
available.    And  one  of  the  things,  of  course,  we're 
looking  for  is  the  variety  of  rocks  here,  if  there's 
more  than  just  the  one  boulder.    You  can  sample  the 
boTilder  for  a  while ,  but  we  would  be  interested  in 
seeing  if  there  is  more  than  jiist  the  single  type 
of  rock.    Probably,  also,  samples  from  both  sides  - 
both  halves  of  the  rock.    What  we  said  this  morning 
in  terms  of  combining  stations  6  and  T  to  an  hour 
and  20  minutes  - 

06  l8  35  l8    LMP-EVA    Come  on  up  here,  Geno. 


CDR-EVA    Okay . 


Tape  109A/25 


LMP-EVA    If  you  can. 

CC  And  so  it's  sort  of  your  option  as  to  how  much  time 

you  spend  here  and  how  much  you  go  on  to  station  T 
and  spend.     If  you  feel  that  it's  worthwhile,  we 
could  spend  essentially  all  that  hour  and  20  min- 
utes at  this  station.    But  if  we  did  that,  we'd 
like  to  get  a  fair  variety  of  blocks,  if  they're 
available . 


LMP-EVA    Okay.     Geno,  we  sampled  some  of  the  light  colored 
group  -  as  a  matter  of  fact,  this  block  looks 
different. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  so  does  that  big  one  -  - 
LMP-EVA    It's  grayer. 

CDR-EVA    That's  why  I've  been  photographing  it. 

LMP-EVA    What  it  is,  I  think    -  it's  a  big  blue-gray  rock  - 
itself  is  crystalline,  I  believe.    The  inclusions 
are  much  more  sharply  defined,  and  it's  nonvesicular 
and  it's  Included,  or  at  least  it's  in  contact 
with  the  very  vesicular  anorthositic  gabbro  - 
ri^t  up  there.    See  that? 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  the  whole  big  one.     I  just  ... 
LMP-EVA    Did  you  get  some  pictures  of  it? 

CDR-EVA    As  I  bounced  around  there,  I  took  pictures  of  it. 

LMP-EVA    Look,  we  can  get  some  of  that  light-colored  stuff 
in  there,  along  with  the  blue-gray. 

CDR-EVA    We  ought  to  get  as  big  a  piece  of  that  inclusion 
as  we  cem.    There's  -  - 

LMP-EVA    See  it  up  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    I  think  we're  out  of  line  of  sight  with 
them.    We're  behind  a  boulder. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  sorry  about  that.  But   

CC  We  can  hear  you  loud  and  clear.    We're  just  looking 

at  rocks  right  now. 


Tape  109A/26 


CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  the  boulder  downslope  is  more  of  a 

light-gray  vesicular  boulder.    The  one  Jack  just 
taUted  about  with  some  of  the  Istrger  vhite  inclu- 
sions is  less  vesicular,  and  it's  a  -  more  of  blue- 
gray  rock.    And  if  I  don't  fall  on  my  tail  here, 
I'll  get  -  - 

LMP-EVA    The  locator  is  of  Henry. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  try  and  get  up  there.    Henry?  We 

must  be  hi^  enough  to  see  something.    I  haven't 
even  looked  back. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  a  closeup  before  you  start  pounding. 

CDR-EVA    No,  I  might  go  from  this  angle  too.    That  will 

give  them  sc»nething  a  little  different  up  in  there 
too.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    We  ought  to  try  and  sianiple  that.    Okay.    Let's  get 
the  - 

LMP-EVA    You  want  me  to  get  my  scoop  under  there?  Probably 
won't  fall  out. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,    Get  as  many  of  these  pieces  as  we  can.  I 
don't  know  how  many  are  going  to  come  out. 


06  18  38  19    LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 


CDR-EVA    Outstanding!     Outstanding!    This  whole  tiling  wilJ 
come  out  here  in  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  watch  it.     I'll  watch  it.    Got  it? 

CDR-EVA    Move  your  arm  up  or  down.    Okay.    I  got  it  in  case 
we  don ' t  get  another  one . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  we're  getting  good  at  that. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Can't  hold  that  much  longer. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  up  on  this  -  up  here. 


Tape  109 A/ 27 


LMP-EVA    Why  don't  we  get  a  -  get  a  bag  out.    Let  me  put 
these  in  a  hag. 

CDR-EVA    That's  why  I'm  getting  up  here  so  I  can  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  just  get  my  beilance.    Boh,  556  is  one  of  the 
light-colored  inclusions  in  the  blue-gray  rock. 

LMP-EVA    It's  chips. 

CDR-EVA    Chips  of  it. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we  lost  that  other  one.    That's  good 
enovigh . 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it;  I  know  where  it  is. 

LMP-EVA    That's  all  right.    It's  not  a  lot  of  sample,  but 
it's  representative,  I  think.     It  looks  a  lot 
like  that  svigary  rock  I  sampled  yesterday,  doesn't 
it?    Found  in  the  -  that  we  sampled  in  the  -  - 

06  l8  39  U3    CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  pretty  easy  to  break  up;  it's  really  not 

very  coherent  at  all. 

IMP -EVA    You  know,  I  thought  last  night.  Bob,  that  I  should 
use  the  word  aplitic  for  a  texture  that  we  saw  in 
that  inclusion  yesterday  on  the  South  Massif. 

CDR-EVA  If  I  could  keep  from  falling  on  my  tail. 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  get  a   

CDR-EVA  I  want  to   

LMP-EVA  Okay,  you  going  to  get  some  of  that? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  a  different  kind;  that's  a  more 

beat  up  inclusion  of  some  sort.     Oh,  there's  a 
nice  piece  coming  out.    Oh,  wait  a  minute  -  don'ti 
lose  it. 


Tape  109A/28 


LMP-EVA    I  got  it.    I've  got  it. 
CDR-EVA    Got  it. 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We  have  another  incltision  that,  on  the 

surface,  has  a  more  reddish-brown  texture.  In- 
terior looks  pretty  much  the  same;  it's  a  very 
li^t  gray. 

LMP-EVA    This  looks  like  a  piece  of  breccia    Looks  like  a 
fragment  briccia  that  got  caught  up  in  this  thing. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  well,  the  whole  thing  is  obviously  a  breccia. 
I'd  sure  like  to  get  that   

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'd  say  -I'm  not  sure;  it's  obviously  a 

breccia.  I  think  it  may  -  may  be  an  igneous  rock 
vith  breccia  Inclusions . 

CDR-EVA  Well,  okay,  but  - 

LMP-EVA  Which  is  sort  of  In  the  same  class. 

CDR-EVA  Sort  of  makes  a  breccia   

LMP-EVA  Well  -  - 

CDR-EVA  out  of  the  big  rock. 

D4P-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Except  you  can   

LMP-EVA  I  can't  get  in  there,  Geno,  you'll  have  to. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  No  vay  - 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  - 

LMP-EVA  Watch  it.    Hold  still  -  opps .     I  think  it's 
easier  for  you. 


Tape  109 A/ 29 


ODR-EVA    Did  I  give  them  a  niunber  on  that?  -  No. 
CC  Negative . 

CDR-EVA    It's  -  5  -  536. 

LMP-EVA    Squash  it  -  cramp  it  a  little  hit,  if  you  can;  a 
little  more . 

CDR-EVA  Did  you  get  that  536,  Bob? 

CC  Roger.     536  for  the  last  one. 

CDR-EVA  Let's  get  a   

CC  And  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Let's  go  get  the  host  rock  here. 

LMP-EVA    How  about  that  -  How  about  that  -  whew  -  how 
about  that  piece? 

CDR-EVA    How  about  this  one,  with  the  inclusion?    Maybe  I 
can  get  this  one. 


LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay;  and,  17,  we'd  like  - 

LMP-EVA    That  may  have  been  a  little  optimistic. 

CC  Do  you  guys  have  a  feeling  that  the  two  halves 

of  the  big  boulder  are  different  rocks?  Or 
is  it  the  same  rock  split? 


06  18  h2  13    LMP-EVA    Wo,  they're  -  they're  two  -  they  were  all  one 

boulder,  I  think.    They  are  just  two  major  rock 
types  in  the  -  whatever  they  came  from.    And  I 
tried  to  describe  that  to  you.    We  have  the  con- 
tact in  the  control  boulder.    They're  really 
three  big  boulders.    The  central  boulder  had  the 
contact  between  the  light-gray  rock  -  or  the  blue- 
gray  rock  and  the  vesicular  anorthositic  gabbro. 


CC 


Okay.  And  you  guys  have  that  pretty  well  photo- 
documented,  right? 


Tape  109A/30 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 


Yes,  it's  in  pretty  good  shape.  We're  working  on 
it  still. 

Okay .    Copy  that . 

Try  going  on  the  side  there,  Geno. 

Just  vent  from  the  side.  Jack. 

That's  enough.    You  got  a  piece  of  the  -  - 

, . .  host  rock . 

I  think  you  can  get  this  one  up  here,  can't  you? 

I  wanted  that  one  cause  it  had  that  inclusion 
wrapped  in  it.     Let  me  go  to  high  here  for  a 
minute.    Which  one  are  you  talking  about?  This 
one  here? 

Yes,  I  just  -  It's  about  to  come.    Oh  -  oh  -  oh, 
okay.    I've  got  it.     I've  got  it. 

Okay. 
. .  .  hag. 

They're  hoth  host  rocks;  we  can  put  them  in  the 
same  hag. 

No,  let's  don't.    No,  they're  different  places. 
537,  is  a  chip  of  the  blue-gray  rock;  and  the 
host  -  the  blue-gray  host  rock  -  and  let  me  get 
that  other  one  - 

Oh  - 

Oh  -  Be  careful  - 

Pick  the  rock  up  while  you're  there.  It's  right 
at  your  hand. 

I  will. 


LMP-EVA 


Okay. 


Tape  109A/31 


CDE-EVA    ...  hammer  somewhere. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  538  is  another  sample  of  that  material  - 
a  little  dustier. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

06  18  hh  57    LMP-EVA    That's  the  blue-gray  -  that's  the  blue-gray  Bob, 

with  the  inclusions  in  it.  Now  the  blue-gray, 
the  more  you  looked  at  it ,  it  looks  like  a  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Give  me  your  left  -  your  right  hand. 

LMP-EVA  Huh? 

CDR-EVA    Give  me  your  right  hand.     Turn  it  over.    Turn  it 
over.    Turn  it  over. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  did.    How  do  you  want  it  over? 

CDR-EVA    You  kept  turning  it  over  in  the  same  direction. 

Like  that,  so  I  can  fix  that.     Okay.     Now  give 
me  your  bag,  and  I'll  get  it  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    It  -  the  blue-gray  rock,  on  closer  examination, 
looks  like  a  partially  recrystallized  fragment 
breccia.    It's  very  hard. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  going  to  

LMP-EVA    Are  you  going  to  get  the  afters  in  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  get  them.     I  want  to  do  a  little  bit 
better  documentation  on  this  thing  -  Bob  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  going  to  go  over  and  look  at  that  contact. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  a  few  closeup  stereos  of  the  inclusion  that 
we  tried  to  sample,  and  I'm  going  to  see  if  I 
can't  give  you  a  little  ...  stereo  around  thia 
thing  -  if  I  can  stay  on  my  feet. 

06  18  h6  32    CDR-EVA    Do  you  read  me.  Jack,  okay? 

LMP-EVA    Yes ,  I  hear  you. 

CC  Yes,  Houston  reads  you  loud  and  clear,  also. 


Tape  109A/32 


CDR-EVA    You  can  see  vhere  we've  been  pounding  on  this  rock. 
We  didn't  succeed  in  getting  samples  everywhere. 
And  I'm  giving  you  a  90-degree  corner. 

LMP-EVA   Bob,  it  looks  to  me  like  there  are  inclusions  of 
blue-gray  in  the  gabbro  -  in  the  anorthositic 
gabbro . 

CC  Positively  outstanding. 

CDR-EVA    Are  you  saying  you  think  this  whole  bit  -  You 
think  this  whole  big  blue-gray  thing  is  an 
inclusion? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.     And  there's  some  little  ones  over  here. 

CDR-EVA    Yeah»  but  then  within  the  blue-gray,  we've  got 
all  these  other  frstgrnent. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  that's  right.    It's  Just  several  generations 
of  activity;  and  it  looks  like  the  gabbor  though, 
picked  up  the  fragmental  breccia  as  inclusion. 
Bob,  I'd  -  it  really  looks  that  way  right  now. 
There's  a  -  - 

CC  Okay,  Charlie  is  here  mumbling  something  about  it 

looking  just  like  house  rock  [ ? ] . 

LMP-EVA    It's  very  crystalline.     I'll  tell  you,  it's  not 

a  breccia  -  not  like  house  rock  [?].    Not  to  take 
anything  away  from  house  rock  [ ? ] ,  though . 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  there's  a  lot  of  mantling  on  a  very 
shallow  slope  of  a  fracture  here  on  one  of  the 
upslope  rocks.    I  would  assume  it's  just  part  of 
the  ...  picked  up  as  its  rolled  down.     But  if  it's 
worth  sampling,  you  might  think  about  it. 

CC  Okay,  Gene,  if  you  can  get  that  fairly  readily, 

why  don't  you  -  You  can  perhaps  just  scoop  it  up 
with  the  bag. 

CDR-EVA    That ' s  exactly  what  I  can  do . 


CC 


If  you  can  get  up  to  the  rock  there. 


Tape  109A/33 


CDR-EVA    And  it  will  be  in  my  -  It  will  be  in  my  flight 
line  stereo,  and  it's  going  to  be  bag  557.  And 
I'll  take  an  after  and  show  you  where  it  came  from. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    This  is  the  easist  part  of  the  rock  in  the  world 
to  work.    Man,  here's  a  big  -  here's  a  big  white 
clast.    There's  one  on  top  about  a  foot  and  a  half 
across,  and  here's  one  -  must  be  2  feet  across  - 
3  feet.    And  that's  in  the  blue-gray. 

CDR-EVA    Feel  like  a  kid  playing  in  a  sandbox. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  Bob,  I  think  I've  done  the  best  I  can.  I 
would  -  I'd  say  that  they're  pretty  clearly  in- 
clusions of  blue-gray  in  the  anorthositic  gabbro 
here  near  the  contact. 

CC  Okay.    And  Gene,  your  bag  is  hanging  by  one  hook 

there.    Be  careful,  if  you  can  -  or  LMP  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I  gave  you  557,  I  believe.    Didn't  I? 

CC  Roger.    We  have  that  one.    And  whoever  is  giving 

us  557  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I'll  have  Jack  fix  by  bag. 
CC  Yes . 

06  l8  50  07    LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  by  accident  -  I  didn't  think  I  could 

do  it  but  I  got  a  sample  of  the  inclusion.  And 
it's  in  bag  539. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack,  that's  your  bag  that's  hanging  by  one 
hook.    Let  me  go  get  it. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  they're  talking  to  me,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  because  I  didn't   

CC  Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  didn't  think  they  could  see  me.     I'm  way  up  on 
top. 


Tape  109A/3^ 


LMP-EVA    And  it's  blue-gray  with  light  colored   

CDR-EVA    Put  these  in  i^jr  bag. 

LMP-EVA  inclusions  in  it. 

CDR-EVA    All  ri^t, 

LMP-EVA    But  the  whole  thing  seems  to  be  pretty  well  altered, 
or  metamorphosed  -  compared  to  the  major  rock  we 
sampled  -  to  the  other  blue-gray  rock. 

LMP-EVA  This  bag  is  terrible-    I  can't  -  it  won't  latch. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  there's  a  dark  hole  in  there. 

LMP-EVA  Don't  let  me  -  I 'm  not  - 

CDR-EVA  Here's  another  bag  to  put  in  there  before  you  go. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  okay.    It  won't  latch. 

CDR-EVA  Well  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Not  at  this  angle. 

CDR-EVA  Put  the  thumb  on  one  side,  and  I'll   

LMP-EVA  It's  dead  or  scanething.    There,  that's  pretty  good. 

CDR-EVA  Now  let  me  fix  your  bag. 

CC  And,  17  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Bob,  I  think  that  inclusion  will  give  you 

an  example  of  what  this  thing  -  what  the  anortho- 
sitic  gabbro  did  to  the  blue-gray  breccia. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.    And  we're  ready  for  you 

guys  to  leave  this  rock  and  press  on  and  either 
get  the  rake  soil  and  cores  near  that  crater  down 
below  the  rock  just  a  shade,  or  else  go  on  to  some 
other  different  variety  rocks  in  the  area. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  tell  you,  going  down  to  that  crater  i  !■ 
not  a  problem.     Getting  back  up  is. 


Tape  109A/35 


CC  Okay,  well,  find  a  decent  area  to  get  the  rake 

soil  from  a  couple  of  cores . 

LMP-EVA  Tell  you  what.  Gene,  I  could  go  down  there  and 
start  a  rake,  and  you  coxild  come  down  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.  I  -  Yes,  I  don't  think  you  ought  to  try 
and  wsilk  back  up.  Jack.  Let  me  get  a  pan  from 
right  here  where  I  got  this  sample. 

IMP-EVA    Okay.    I'm  going  to  come  over  and  -  I'll  go  get 
the  rake  and  get  the  -  - 

CC  17,  it's  not  that  vital  to  get  to  that  crater. 

We  just  need  a  good  place  for  a  rake  soil  and  a 
doTible  -  a  single  core. 

LMP-EVA    Get  uphill  a  little  bit,  if  you  can,  for  the  pan, 

so  that  you  don't  -  so  you  see  i^y  other  pan  station. 

CDR-EVA    Where  was  it? 

LMP-EVA    It  was  over  there  in  that  crater.  Just  uphill  from 
the  Rover - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  up  there. 

CC  Hey,  and,  IT,  we  aren't  all  that  gung  ho  about 

that  particular  crater,  if  it's  that  much  of  a 
Job  to  get  down  to  it  and  back  up.    Just  -  we 
Just  need  a  decent  place  for  a  rake  soil  sample 
and  a  single  core. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  we  don't  move  ajround  from  here  too  much.  I 
tell  you,  these  slopes  ajr-e  something  else, 

CC  Yes .    We  agree  with  that ,  from  what  we  see  on  the 

television.    So  use  your  Judgement,  and  get  them 
where  it's  the  best  place 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you  might  take  a  look  at  me  walking  up.  But 
I  don't  think  I  can  get  to  the  top.    I  just  got  to 
get  a  place  I  can  get  a  pan  from,  right  here. 
Right  in  this  little  hole.    Okay,  now  I  left  the 
gnomon  down  there. 


Tape  109A/36 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'll  have  to  go  get  it.    I  think  they're 
set  up  right  here  near  the  Rover. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I'll  go  and  save  some  water,  back  on 
IHTERMEDIATE .    Okay . 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Hope  my  lens  is  clean.    Bob,  from  up  here,  the 
li^t  mantle  is  not  evident  until  you  see  the 
anglular  refleiction  up  on  the  scarp.    Very  thin- 
like  patches mi^t  be  evident  out  on  the  valley, 
but  not  nearly  as  pronounced  as  I  might  have 
thou^t  from  this  altitude. 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  and  there's  Challenger.    Holy  aaoley.  You 
know.  Jack,  when  we  finish  with  station  8,  we 
will  have  covered  this  whole  valley  from  corner 
to  comer. 

LMP-EVA    That  was  the  idea. 

06  18  55  20    CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  I  didn't  think  we'd  ever  really  quite 

get  to  that  far  comer.    Not  2,  but  this  other 
one.    And  we're  going  to  make  it. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  that  blue-gray  rock  near  the  contact  with 
the  anorthositlc  gabbro  does  get  some  vesicles 
in  it.    I  think  they'll  show  up  in  Gene's  pictures. 


CC 


Okay.    We  have  that  too.  Jack, 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    I  just  ran  out  of  film  at  I60.    And  I'm 

about  two  pictures  short  of  the  pan,  and  they're 
upslope.    I  think  I  can  cover  most  of  that  with 
the  500. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.     You  going  to  go  to  the  Rover  and 

change  your  mags  now? 

CDR-EVA   Well,  Jack's  going  to  need  some  help  from  me. 

CC  Okay.    Let  me  know  when  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I'm  starting  to  rake. 


Tape  109A/37 


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CDR-EVA 
CC 

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LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
06  18  57  26  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Let  me  know  when  you  get  to  the  Rover  to  change 
the  mags  after  you  get  done  with  that,  and  I'll 
tell  you  what  mag  to  change. 

Jack,  if  you  got  -  - 

But  press  on  and  help  Jack  with  those  first. 

Jack,  if  you  got  enough  film,  I'll  just  come 
and  help  you. 

Okay. 

Okay? 

Yes. 

Remind  me  to  dust  ray  camera,  too,  will  you? 

Don't  forget  to  dust  your  camera. 

Okay.    We'll  keep  track  of  that  for  you.  Gene. 

Okay.    Did  you  get  any  before  pictures? 

I'm  getting  them  now. 

Okay. 

(Laughter)    It  ain't  easy,  McGee. 

Man,  I  tell  you,  these  slopes  are  great.  I 
wouldn't  mind  being  up  on  top  coming  down;  but  - 
hey,  that  boulder  track  is  quite  a  trench. 

Yes,  sir. 

That  thing  must  be  a  meter  or  2  deep,  huh? 

Okay;  the  big  rake.     Well,  I  think  I'll  try  -  - 

Wouldn't  it  be  easier  to  rake  downhill. 

It  would,  but  the  stuff  wouldn't  stay  in. 

( Laughter) 

Right? 


Tape  109A/38 


CDR-EVA    Well,  I  don't  know. 
IMP-EVA    It's  a  thought. 

CDR-EVA    Make  svire  you  get  that  one  by  the  

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  vill. 

LMP-EVA    We're  not  really  soipposed  to  be  selective 
about  raking. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  you're  not;  you're  Just  covering  the  area. 
LMP-EVA    That's  why  I  set  up  there. 

CDR-EVA    A  selective  sample  is  better  than  no  sample  at 
all.    Let  me  put  some  in  there - 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Bag  558. 

CC  Copy  558. 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  most  of  them  are   

LMP-EVA  Let  me  go  another  couple  of  flights  [?]. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    There's  one  a  couple  of  inches.    Most  of 
them  are  an  inch  or  so  or  smaller.  They're 
angular  to  subrounded  fragments.    Some  of  them 
look  like  the  inclxisions.    As  a  matter  of  fact, 
the  ones  that  are  broken  open  look  like  some  of 
the  ligjit-colored  inclusions  we  saw  in  the  big 
bOTjLLder.    The  others  are  too  dust  covered  to  say 
anything  about. 

LMP-EVA    A  couple  of  them  look  fairly  coarsely  crystalline. 
Okay.    Put  these  in  there. 

CDR-EVA    Big  deal.    Now  we  ended  up  with  three  more. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  an  after,  such  as  it  is.     Oh,  we  want 
the  -  - 


CDR-EVA 


They  want  the  soil  here. 


Tape  109A/39 


LMP-EVA    Soil  -  that's  right. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

06  18  59  ^6    LMP-EVA    Okay.    You  want  to  put  that  in? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'd  better  put  it  in  before  I  -  Okay.  Let's 
try  for  the  soil.     559's  the  soil. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    And,  17,  our  present  plans 

from  the  back  room  are  that  we'd  like  to  get  the 
single  core,  the  500  millimeter  shots  -  and,  I 
guess,  maybe  one  could  do  one,  and  one  could  do 
the  other  -  and  then  we'd  like  to  press  on  and 
do  a  short  station  7,  unless  you  think  you  have, 
got  a  fair  variety  of  rocks  here.    The  feeling 
is  to  do  that  ...  variety  of  rocks. 

IMP-EVA    Yes . 


CDR-EVA    Little  more,  little  more,  little  more. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I'll  get  the  core  and  let  Jack  get 
the  500.    559  is  the  kilogram  of  soil.    I  think 
we've  pretty  much  covered  the  general  variety 
we've  seen  here.     I  think  we've  seen  most  of  them 
in  that  boulder. 


CC  Okay.    And  so  we'd  like  to  go  on  to  station  7, 

then,  when  you  get  the  500  and  the  core,  in  hopes 
of  finding  a  variation  of  boulders  along  the 
front . 

06  19  01  02    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let  me  know  when  you  get  it.    Okay.  The 

after.  Ok^,  why  don't  you  get  the  500,  and  I'll 
get  the  core. 


LMP-EVA    And  the  LMP's  on  120. 


CC  Copy  120  there.    And,  Gene,  if  you  want  to  change, 

we  recommended  magazine  Foxtrot  or  Frsin,  as  the 
case  may  be . 


CDR-EVA 


Okay.  Will  try  Foxtrot  -  Franny.  Dont'  forget 
to  get  that  boulder  track. 


Tape  109A/U0 


CC  ...    And  while  you're  at  it.  Gene,  you  might  remember 

to  ...  when  you're  leaning  over  the  seat. 

LHP -EVA    Let  me  look  at  your  camera. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  if  this  Rover  wasn't  here,  we'd  roll 
downhill . 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  I  think  we  could  use  an  upper  here  if 
you  want  to  save  the  lowers. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  so,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Whichever  you  want.    Do  you  want  your  -  - 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'll  get  it.    Why  don't  you  get  your  500,  and 
I'll  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    But  do  you  want  a  core?    Watch  the  fender. 
CDR-EVA    The  core's  in  there,  isn't  it? 

LMP-EVA    Well  there's  some  under  my  feet  if  you  want  to  use 
those. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  use  those. 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack.    We  have  three  lowers  and  two 

uppers,  so  we'd  just  as  soon  use  the  extra  lower 
here  in  the  single  core.    That'll  give  us  two 
uppers  and  two  lowers  left  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC   for  doubles. 

LMP-EVA    There  should  be  a  lower  in  there,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  Bob,  any  special  place  you  want  that?  Just 
out  here  on  the  slope? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP-EVA    Should  hfe.ve  put  the  gnomon  up.    Well  - 

CC  Just  out  there  on  the  slope.    I  guess  if  you  saw 

a  crater  ...  you  might  look  at  that,  but  primarily 
we're  looking  at  the  crater. 


Tape  109A/U1 


CDR-EVA    I'll  get  it.    I'll  get  it.  Jack.     Don't  worry.  Okay. 
We  have  a  couple  of  dents  in  out  fen  -  in  our 
wheels.    That's  better  than  having  a  flat  tire. 

CDR-EVA    Did  he  say  in  a  crater? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  svire  what  he  said.    Thinking  -  How  do  I 
get  this  doggone  - 

CDR-EVA  ...  to  come  off? 

IMP-EVA  You  got  to  unlock  it. 

CDR-EVA  Yes ,  it  is  unlocked. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Now  push  down  and  turn. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  How  am  I  going  to  see  up  there  to  shoot  this  thing? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  why  don't  you  lean  against  the  rock?  Go 
over  there  and  lean  against  it. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  have  to  do  something,     I  was  trying  to  get 
so  I  could  lean  against  the  Rover,  but  that  ain't 
going  to  work. 

CDR-EVA    The  Rover  isn't  steady  enough  for  you  to  lean 
against. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  steady  enough.    There's  just  no  place 
to  lean. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  and  if  you'll  listen  for  a 

minute,  I'll  tell  you  some  possible  500-mlllimeter 
targets  the  people  have  in  mind.    One,  the  LM,  if 
you  can  see  it  from  there.    Two,  Nansen,  if  you 
can  see  it  from  there.    Three,  Lara;  and  fo\ir. 
Shorty.     In  other  words,  I  guess  they're  talking 
about  looking  along  your  traverse  from  yesterday. 
It  would  be  mostly  the  back  shots ,  apparently. 
And  then,  also,  the  South  Massif,  and  I  don't  know 
what  you  can  get  of  boulder  tracks  leading  up  the 
North  Massif.    And  most  of  those  will  be  looking 
downhill  towards  the  LM,  stations  2,  3,  and  k. 
Over.     Nansen,  Lara,  and  Shorty. 


Tape  109A/lt2 


LMP-EVA    I  got  you.  Bob. 

CDK-EVA    Yes,  the  LM  Is  visible  by  the  way. 

06  19  05  27    LMP-EVA    Okay.    I  got  a  set  of  the  -  the  -  what  looks  like 

the  outcrop  from  which  the  boulder  came. 

liMP-EVA    I'm  afraid  they're  moved  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA    Oh.  I  can't  -  That's  it.    I  got  a  few  pictures 

looking  up  the  boiilder  track  and  then  off  to  the 
right  -  to  the  left  a  little  bit  -  and  one  off  to 
the  right.    And  I  think  -I'm  not  sure  how  well 
they  overlap;  that's  just  an  awful  hard  shot. 

Okay;  good  on  that.    And  if  you're  done  with  that, 
have  you  got  a  frame  count  -  or  you're  still  taking 
them,  I  guess,  it  looks  like. 


CC 


LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.  My  camera  is  clean.  Magazine  Foxtrot  -  is 
about  frame  2,  and  I  cycled  through  it.  And  I've 
got  the  core  all  set,  and  I'm  going  to  go  get  it. 
And  I  didn't  hear  where  you  said  to  put  it.  Bob. 

CC  Anywhere . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  you're  easy. 

CC  And  did  you  get  your  camera   

CDR-EVA  Anywhere.  Not  the  bottom  of  a  small  crater,  huh? 
CC  Any  place.    And  did  you  get  your  camera  dusted? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  got  it  all  dusted  and  the  mag's  chaiiged. 
CC  Good. 
CDR-EVA    It's  kkQ. 
CC  Copy  that. 

06  19  08  06    CDR-EVA    Okay.    I '11  even  get  you  a  picture  of  it . 
CDR-EVA    Oh  me.    Oh  my. 


Tape  109A/lt3 


CDR-EVA    Oh  me.    Oh  my.     Can  you  get  the  IM  from  there? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA   That  core  went  in  very  easy.  Boh.    I  pushed  it  in 
about  a  quarter  of  the  way.    And  ahout  emother 
five  or  six  whacks,  and  it's  in  all  the  way. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Come  on  out  now,  hahy. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Boh.    Shorty,  and  station  3,  ajid  station  2, 
and  what  else . 

CC  And  any  sort  of  outcrop  you  see  in  the  South  Massif. 

IiMP-EVA  I  thought  we  shot  those. 

CC  Okay.    If  you  got  those,  fine. 

LMP-EVA  No,  I  mean  the  other  day. 

CC  Well  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I'll  try  again. 

CC  Stereo  is  stereo  is  stereo,  I  guess. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  and  I  got  you  a  little  soil  me  -  Well,  but 
it's  not  stereo;  it's  right  along  the  same  line. 
Little  soil  mechanics  of  the  hole,  which  stayed 
intact;  very  nice  and  round. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Oh,  man. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  sir,  we  got  a  couple  of  dented  tires. 

I24P-EVA  Okay.    My  hands  have  had  it. 

CC  Okay;  good  enough. 

LMP-EVA  You  aren't  going  to  get  anything  else  out  of  me  if 
I  keep  taking  pictures. 

CC  And,  Gene,  what's  a  dented  tire? 


Tape  109A/l*it 


CDR-EVA    A  dented  tire  is  a  little  -  oh,  a  little  golfball 
size  or  smaller  indentation  in  the  mesh.    How  does 
that  sound  to  you?    Doesn't  hurt  anything. 

CC  That  sounds  like  a  dented  tire;  that's  how  it 

sotmds . 

LMP-EVA    Frame  31,  Bob. 

CC  Cappy  -  copy  frame  31. 

CDR-EVA    That's  sort  of  like  what  it  is. 

.  LMP-EVA    Okay.    LMP  was  what?    120?    I  guess  we  can  get  to 
the  next  station  with  that. 

CC  Yes,  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  a  hrand  new  mag  out. 

CC  And  we'd  like  to  get  you  guys  rolling  as  soon 

as  feasible  there. 

06  19  11  29    LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.     It's  our  policy. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I'll  need  your  rammer,  so  if  you'll  Just 
turn  rigjit. 

OdP-EVA    Good  timing.    Pin's  out;  core  tube  is  safe.  In 
full. 

CDR-EVA    I  knew  it  was.    Okay.    You  take  this  and  put  this 
under  your  seat,  if  you  want.  Jack.    And  I'll  get 
the  TGE.    Oh,  let  me  put  your  shovel  back  on  for 
you.     I'll  get  it. 

LMP-EVA  Get  that? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Don't  lose  that.    Boy,  if  you  do  - 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Did  you  give  them  the  number? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  they  got  the  number. 

LMP-EVA  Under  the  LMP's  seat. 


Tape  IO9A/45 


CC  Roger.    We  got  it.     Copy  that  -  under  the  LMP's 

seat. 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    I'm  sneaking  up  on  the  TGE. 
CDK-EVA    You  need  some  help? 

LMP-EVA    No.    No,  I  was  -  just  sneaking  up,  that's  all. 
CDR-EVA    . . •  let  you  lean  on  me . 
LMP-EVA    No,  I  got  it. 
06  19  12  51    CDR-EVA    670,  109,  8OI;  670,  109,  801. 
CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  wish  we  -  the  one  thing  I  didn't  do.    While  you're 
doing  that  - 

CDR-EVA    . . . 

LMP-EVA    Didn't  get  pictures  of  those  foliated  vesicles.  I 
don't  think  the  ones  you  had  were  in  that  kind  of 
rock . 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  want  to  lose  that  thing,  so  I  guess  -  - 

CC  Okay,  17,  when  you  get  hack  on  here,  we  don't 

need  aay  charges,  and  we'll  leave  the  sets  turned 
off. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  not  sure.    Did  you  turn  it  off,  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  turned  it  off.     I  turned  it  off.  Okay. 

Let  me  see .  We  want  to  move  on  to  7  here .    Rake , 
talus,  docirmented  core,  you  got  your  stereos,  we 
got  two  pans,  TGE,  camera.    Okay,  we're  going  to 
head  east  and  look  for  station  7  -  "block  variation, 
contact  change,  sxxd  get  a  different  sample  of  rocks. 
Okay,  I  sure  want  to  get  one  or  two  of  those  nice 
ones  in  the  big  bag  while  you're  over  there. 

CC  Okay   


IMP-EVA 


Open  the  gate,  and  I'll  bring  one. 


Tape  109  A/ 1*6 


CC  -  -  Seven  -  Okay.    And  let  me  know  when  you  get 

ready  to  get  back  on  the  Rover  there,  1?. 

CDR-EVA    Guess  what  isn't  opening  again.    Should,  though. 
It's  all  set  right. 

CC.  You  could  put  them  under  Jack's  seat  if  it's 

easier. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    What  do  you  want  done  to  the  SEP  while  I'm 
here?    Do  you  want  the  blanket  stayed  -  left  open? 

CC  Okay,  we'd  -  Negative.    We'd  like  the  "blankets 

closed  and  taped  down  again,  if  possible,  and 
both  switches  left  off.    We  won't  touch  it  again 
until  station  8. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  tape's  not  going  to  stick  anymore,  I'm  afraid. 

CC  Well,  try. 

LMP-EVA    Big  bag  open? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  all  open.    All  set. 

LMP-EVA    Get  me  a  -  I  need  a  normal  sample  bag  for  one  here. 
It's  pretty  fragile. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Oh,  that  doggoned  thing's  not  going  to  - 
That  tape  is  full  of  dust  now.    Okay.    Wait  a 
minute.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  let  me  get  this  big  one.    I'm  about  ready 
to  drop  it.     It  looks  like  a  gabbro. 

CDR-EVA    There's  sample  bag  56O. 

CC  Copy  560. 

LMP-EVA    And  56O  has  an  undoc  -  undocumented  except  by  tho 
pans  -  very  white  -  looks  like  a  crushed  anortho- 
site.     It  looks  like  the  -  some  of  the  inclusions 
in  the  breccia  -  in  the  gray  breccia  -  gray  and 
re crystallized  breccia. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 


Tape  109A/i+7 


CDR-EVA    Jack,  when  you  get  around,  and  we  close  this  gate, 
you  might  try  and  hit  that  -  top  of  that  SEP  down 
again. 

LMP-E\^A    I  will. 

06  19  16  30    CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob,  you're  staying  k^ed  an  awful  long  time. 

We  can  hear  a  lot  of  what's  going  on  hack  there. 
Wait  a  minute.     Let  me  get  this  out  of  the  way. 
Okay,    Close  it.    Yes.    That's  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    . . .  it's  - 

CDR-EVA    That's  got  it.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Oop,  oop,  oop.    Why'd  that  come  off? 

CDR-EVA   Well,  because  it's  not  locked.    It's  ...  never  was 
locked. 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    We  lucked  out. 

06  19  IT  10    CDR-EVA    Okay.    We're  moving.    Sort  of. 

CC  And,  before  you  get  on,  remember  to  close  the 

battery  covers  if  they  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Your  camera  lens  looks  all  right,  Geno. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  dusted  it  already. 
LMP-EVA  Oh. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Cover  closed  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Do  they  want  it  on  or  off?    Leave  it  off, 
huh? 

CDR-EVA    Leave  it  off,  but  try  and  close  that  cover  as  best 
you  can. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  afraid  the  tape  has  had  it. 
CDR-EVA    I  know  it. 


Tape  109A/1+8 


IMP-EVA    You  want  us  to  tape  it  again.  Bob?    What  did  you 
do  vith  the  tape? 

CC  If  you  can  grab  the  tape  right  off,  but  don't 

spend  a  lot  of  time  on  it. 

LMP-EVA    What  did  you  do  with  that  tape? 

CC  Let's  worry  about  -  let's  worry  about  it  at 

station  7,  if  we're  going  to  worry  about  it.  Press 
on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Let's  -  let's  forget  it  now.    It's  too  hard, 
to  work  on  there,  and  it's  not  going  to  take  just 
a  minute.    It's  going  to  take  too  much  time. 
I'm  not  sure  I  can  get  back  on  here- 

MP-EVA    Well,  let  me  give  you  a  hand.    We  need  any  a  -  we 
don't  need  any  - 

CDR-EVA  No. 

LMP-EVA    Nothing.    As  a  matter  of  fact  - 
CDR-EVA    I  can  drive.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  drive  down  and  get  -  so  you're  not 
You  can  get  on  - 

CDR-EVA    You  can  go  downhill  very  easy. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let  me  get  the  TV;  The  battery  covers  are 
closed  -  Let  me  carry  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Why  don't  you  just  go  down  there. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  carry  the  Rover  samples. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it? 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    I'll  get  that  out  of  your  way,  too. 


Tape  IO9A/U9 


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CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

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CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

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CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


Okay.    I'll  head  down  to  that,  ...  that  side  hill 
over  to  those  "boulders  right  over  there  and  then 
see  if  that's  any  change. 

Okay.    You  might,  if  you  get  another  sample  -  a 
large  sample,  you  mi^t  grah  it,  and  we'll  throw 
it  in  the  footpan  here  -  and  -  and  I'll  see  if  I 
can't  find  a  level  spot  to  -  - 

I  sort  of  otight  to  have  my  scoop,  too. 

 help  you  get  on.    No,  don't  take  too  much; 

just  take  that.    That's  all  you  need. 

How  ahout  letting  me  have  your  hammer,  then? 

Okay;  and,  IT,  can  you  verify  that  the  -  that  the 
gnomon  is  "back  in  the  Rover? 

Gnomon  is  on  the  Rover.    The  TGE  is  on  the  Rover. 
The  rake. 

The  rake  is  on  the  Rover.    The  scoop's  on  the 
Rover.    We  got  the  -  you  put  the  core  xjnder  your 
pan,  right? 

Yes,  that's  right. 

Okay.    I'm  going  to  power  up  and  see  if  I  can't 
come  down  and  get  you. 

It's  fun  walking  downhill.    Boy,  that  boulder 
track  is  impressive. 

Okay;  and,  17,  when  you  get  moving  -  when  you  get 
moving  we  want  to  get,  and  I  quote,  a  maximum 
variety  of  hand  samples  with  a  minimum  amount  of 
documentation,  in  a  minimum  amount  of  time  at 
station  7.     It's  Just  an  attempt  to  see  what  kind 
of  variety  we  can  get  along  the  face  of  the  front. 
Over. 

Roger.    Okay.    Well,  I'm  not  sure  I  can  get  down 
without  ending  up  in  your  seat. 

Need  some  help? 


Tape  109A/50 


CDR-EVA    No  ... 

LMP-EVA    I  shouldnH  have  left. 

CDR-EVA   No,  no.    I  don't  need  any  help,    I'll  get  on. 

06  19  21  00    LMP-EVA    I  probably  ought  to  turn  my  water  off  of  MAX  if 

that's  -where  it  is.    It's  cold.    I  don't  want  to 
run  out  today. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  the  roll  indicator  s^s  15  degrees;  and  the 
pitch  indicator  says  about  12.  I  don't  know  if  I 
believe  all  that.    Bob,  you  with  us? 

CC  Go  ahead.    Rig^t.    We're  with  you. 

06  19  22  10    CDR-EVA    (Stay.     I'm  rolling. 

CC  CoKT  that. 

CDR-EVA    Man,  this  is  still  a  slope.    Jack,  I'm  going  to 
pull  around  and  in  the  front  of  the  way  you're 
facing. 

LMP-EVA    I  can  go  down  -  There's  a  crater  over  here.  Don'1 
drive  through  it. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  there  you  are.    This  is  much  better.    How  is 
this? 

LMP-EVA    That's  great. 

CDR-EVA    We  oiight  to  be  able  to  pick  up  lots  of  those 
fragments  out  in  that  field  out  there. 

LMP-EVA    Be  ri^t  with  you. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Bob,  I  just  came  downslope  reading  193/3.1 
Just  about  100  meters  to  pick  up  Jack. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Bag  kQ  Yankee  has  a  sample  of  about  a  hair 
one-third-meter  boulder  that  was  lying  in  -  that ' s 
sitting  ri^t  smack  dab  in  a  little  crater  of  it's 
own . 

CC  Copy  that. 


Tape  109A/51 


CDR-EVA  Oh,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  you  Just  kicked  a  sncfwstorm  of  dust  across  here. 

IMP -EVA  I'm  sorry.    I  Jiist  fell,  too. 

CDR-EVA  Did  you?    You  all  right? 

IWP-EVA  Yes.     Got  your  hammer? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  to  drop  it  in  the  pan  here.    Hold  on  to  it, 
I  think. 

LMP-EVA  Couldn't  help  that  one. 

06  19  2k  12    CDR-EVA  Yes.    I  think  we  can  get  some  more  level  spots.  I 

can  dust  this  thing  hack  there. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  109B/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTIOK 


06  19  28  50    CMP  Oh,  I  hope  we  got  a  pan  camera  picture  of  that  - 

what  the  -  Condorcet  [?]  or    ...     or  something 
like  that,  the  one  I  was  describing  had  a  little 
hit  of  diamond  down  in  it? 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Because  what  that  -  little  diamond  turned  out  to 

he  with  the  binocs  -  It's  a  dome  of  material  in 
there,  and  the  reason  it  looks  like  a  diamond  is 
because  you  have  slide  material  or  talus-type  stuff 
that's  slumped  down  around  it.     And  in  that  dome- 
type  material,  there  are  three  or  four  black  spots 
in  it.     I  call  it  black;  they're  really  a  -  I  con  - 
I  kind  of  consider  it  a    greenish  -  greenish  black, 
you  know? 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  I  sure  hope  we  -  If  -  Why  don't  you  check  with 

Farouk  and  see  if  our  pan  camera  coverage  covers 
that  -  that  crater?    I  think  it  probably  did. 
That's  an  interesting  one  to  take  a  look  at  any- 
how. 

06  19  30  12    CC  Ron,  Farouk  thinks  it  is  on  the  pan. 

CMP  Very  good. 

06  19  31  02    CMP  You  know,  in  the  eastern  wall  of  Plcard  -  I'm 

looking  at  it  with  the  binocs  now,  and  you  can 
definitely  see  the  first  part  of  it  up  there  has 
some  vertical  enscarpments  [sic]  -  escarpments 
along  the  edge  of  it.     And  the  vertical  escarp- 
ments are  kind  of  in  irregular  layers  -  well,  just 
kind  of  like  you  would  suspect  if  you  -  you  eroded 
out  a  bunch  of  lava  layers .     In  other  words , 
they're  noncontinuous ,  but  they're  kind  of  inter- 
mingled along,  and  they  go  about  -  oh,  a  third  of 
the  way  down  from  the  top  of  the  rim,  down  to 
where  the  talus  starts  sliding  on  into  the  -  into 
the  crater. 


Tape  109B/2 


06  19  31  56    CC  Good  show.     We'll  tie  that  -  tie  that  up  with  vhat 

you  gave  lis  last  time  on  Picard. 

CMP  Okay. 


CMP 


All  these  dark-halo  craters  in  the  -  in  that  one 
picture  by  that  little  diamond  we've  got  up  there 
by  Yerkes.    The  one  that's  farthest  to  the  south 
looks  like  an  impact  type  of  crater.    In  other 
words    you've  got  a  definite  ejecta  lopping  out 
around  on  those.    The  one  that's  hard  to  look  at 
m  the  middle  of  my  picture,  but  I  think  it's 
probably  the  second  one  down  from  the  top.  It 
has  rounded  ridges  -  rounded  rims,  and  -  coming 
up  on  the  side  here  -  I  don't  know  if  i  going 
to  be  able  to  see  it  until  I  go  by  it.     It  has 
l^'^i    .  \^  rounded  rim.     The  ejecta  pattern  or 
the  dark  halo  is  about  twice  the  size  of  the 
one  crater  diameter.     And  it  doesn't  -  it's  -'it's 
either  a  highly  eroded  impact-type  crater,  or  it's 
a  volcanic-type  structure.     And.  to  me.  it  doesn't 
look  like  a  highly  eroded  impact  one.     Again,  that's 
a  little  one  we  can  probably  pick  up  ground  truth, 
so  to  speak,  off  of  the  pan  camera  film. 

06  19  35  38    CC  Ron    are  there  any  similarity  between  the  highlands. 

west  of  Crisium  and  those  east  of  Serenitatis? 


CMP 


Ir  ''n'i         "  -^ust  what  I  was  looking 

at.  And  the  ones  east  of  -  west  of  -  well  -  yes 
east  of  Crisium  and  west  of  -  No. 

CC  West  of  Crisium   


CMP 

CC 

CMP 


What  I  was  looking  at  was  the   

  and  east  of  Serenitatis. 

Yes,  west  of  Crisium  and  east  of  Serenitatis. 
Those  are  different  -  seem  to  be  a  different  type 
of  islands,  a^d  I  want  -  I  want  to  check  the  other 
ones  when  I  go  by,  but  it  looked  like  when  I  was 
coming  up  on  -  on  those  west  of  Crisium,  they're 
more  of  a  tan-type  colors,  smaller  -  undulations 
smaller  -  They  have  a  corn-cob  effect,  I  guess  is 


Tape  109B/3 


what  you'd  call  it  -  what  I  call  it  anyhow. 
Smaller  -  smaller  ears  of  corn  or  smaller  mounds 
closer  together  as  -  as  opposed  to,  when  you  get 
over  to  the  landing  site  -  The  ones  on  the  landing 
site  seem  to  he  more  -  raised,  I  guess.     In  other 
words,  you  still  have  a  -  a  group  of  the  small 
mounds  and  what  have  you,  hut  they're  a  little 
more  massive;  you  get  more  of  sin  appearance  of  a 
dark  flow  -  or  a  dark  alhedo  hetween  the  mounds 
and  between  the  blimps. 

CC  Roger.    Good  show. 

CC  Are  you  getting  the  landing  site  into  view  now? 

06  19  37  3h    CMP  I  got  it  in  window  2. 

06  19  37  51    CMP  Okay.     I've  got  Shorty  in  the  -  picture.     It  looks 

like  a  sharper  crater  than  any  of  them  in  the 
Pentagon  complex.  The  other  thing  that  looks 
sharp,  just  like  that  one,  is  F  Crater. 

06  19  38  HQ    CMP  ...  back  to  the  other  window. 

CMP  Did  they  kind  of  find  that  orange  stuff  on  the 

north  side  of  it? 

CC  Let  me  check  on  that,  Ron.     I'll  be  back  with  you 

in  a  second.  I  don't  think  so;  their  stop  was  at  - 
station  k  was  on  -  - 

CM'  ...  I ' 11  get  ... 

CC  Station  k  was  on  the  south  side  of  it. 

CC  Just  go  ahead  with  what  you  see  and  -  - 

CMP  I'd  say  they  just  barely  got  into  the  stuff,  then, 

becau  -  But  it  -  but  it  looks  like  -  kind  of  the 
north  rim  of  it  has  more  of  a  -  a  tint  of  a  dif- 
ferent color  to  it. 

CMP  I  ...  my  pictures. 

CC  Is  the  color  differentiation  concentric  aroimd  the 

the  crater  or  is  it  just  in  -  in  splotches? 


Tape  109B/it 


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No.     It's  just  in  the  -  kind  of  the  north  side  of 
It. 

What  would  you  say  the  color  is  then?    Is  it  one 
of  the  different  tans? 

Yes,  the  color  -  (chuckle)    Yes,  it's  a  kind  of  a 
different  -  Woiild  you  believe  kind  of  an  orangish  - 
tan  through  this  -  ztdc  -  throu^  these  hinocs?  I 
got  to  take  another  look  at  that  when  I  go  by  the 
next  time. 

Roger.     I'm  with  you. 


CC  Ron,  when  you  get  back  ~  when  you  get  done  with 

this,  we'd  like  you  to  sketch  -  when  you  get  a 
chance,  the  color  variations  -  just  some  thoughts 
on  where  the  color  splotches  are  with  respect  to 
Shorty,  in  particular. 


Okay.     The  -  I'll  do  that  when  I  finish  up  here. 

Roger,     Did  you  get  a  chance  to  look  at  F  Crater? 

06  19  1+1  50     CMP  Yes,  F  Crater  is  -  is  sharp  -  just  like  -  Shortv. 

I  hope  I  was  getting  F  Crater.  F  Crater  is  about 
the  same  size  as  Shorty,  isn't  it?  If  not,  I  was 
getting  one  between  Family  Mountain  and  - 

Just  about  the  same  size,  Ron.     Maybe  just  a  tad 
bigger. 


CMP  Yes . 


Ron,  is  there  a  cone  associated  with  F  Crater? 

I  didn't  get  a  chance  to  look  at  it  that  much. 
I'll  have  to  check  it  the  next  time. 

Okay.     Have  any  thoughts  on  how  -  what's  its  origin' 

06  19  if 3  02    CMP  I'll  have  to  look  at  F  Crater  again  the  next  time 

I  come  over  on  the  thing,  because  I  spent  most  of 
the  time  looking  at  -  Shorty. 


CC 


Okay. 


Tape  109B/5 


06  19  h3  ih    CMP  You  know  - 

06  19  1*3  32    CMP  This  -  this  formation  again  from  -  Tacquet  on  down 

to  Menelaus  or  Melinor  [sic].     Just  went  over  that 
again,  and  I  was  looking  at  it  with  the  binoculars, 
and  I  saw  one  sharp  crater  in  the  area  that  had  a  - 
an  ejecta  -  almost  the  same  color  as  the  stuff 
around  Shorty. 

06  19  hk  16    CC  Roger,  Ron.    You  may  point  -  pinpoint  that  crater 

between  Tacquet  and  Menelaus  when  you  . . .  down 
here. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Boy,  oh  boy,  D-Caldera  is  going  to  be  -  between 

all  the  windows , 

CC  You  have  any  flow  scarps  in  that  unit  -  near  that 

Menelaus  Crater? 

CMP  No.     I'll  tell  you  what.    There  aren't  amy  scarps 

there  at  all.     That's  why  -  That's  another  thinp; 
I  was  looking  for,  it's  just  a  gradual  degradation 
or  gradual  change  in  the  color. 

CC  You  have  any  topography  changes  with  respect  to 

that  color? 

CMP  Yes,  but  the  -  the  -  No,  the  topography  change  is 

just  a  gradual  -  gradual  change  -  with  -  There's 
a  mound  -  There  it  is.     I  got  to  switch  to  all 
the  windows . 

CC  Are  -  are  you  able  to  get  up  on  the  D-Caldera? 

06  19  h6  07    CMP  Yes,  I  got  D-Caldera  into  my  sights  now.  The 

mound  -  ...  in  the  center  -  are  the  same  type  of 
material  -  same  type  of  material  as  that  sur- 
rounding the  D-Caldera  itself.     Down  in  the 
caldera,    the  gray  blocky-type  of  stuff  -  and  you 
know  what?     I'd  almost  say  that  -  You  know  how 
water  drops  kind  of  form  on  a  -  on  a  -  on  a  sur- 
face as  you  -  as  you  -  Have  you  ever  had  a  high 
spot  and  something  kind  of  slowed  up  -  up  to  it, 
high  spot  -  and  water  kind  of  flowed  up  to  and 
didn't  qmte  stick  to  it  -  you  know  it  doesn't 
stick  to  it,  all  in  one  spot  -  - 


Tape  109B/6 


CC  Roger. 


CMP 


  but  it  would  leave  a  -  a  depression  due  to  a 

siarface  tension  as  you  come  on  up  there  -  and  then 
you  have  kind  of  a  little  -  little  bubbles  that  - 
float  across  there,  and  that's  what  that  looks  like 
to  me. 

Roger.    We  copy  that.    Keep  -  keep  going;  that 
sounds  great. 

How  about  the  dark-halo  crater  west  of  the  D-Caldera? 

06  19  i+7  59    CMP  Hey,  I'm  finding  out  with  -  with  the  binocs,  your 

observation  is  -  is  cut  ih  about  a  half,  and  I'm 
going  to  have  to  get  that  the  next  time  over. 

Roger.     You  think  the  dark  halo  crater  is  any 
relationship  to  those  marelike  patches  in  D-Caldera 
itself? 


CC 


CC 


Cl-IP  No,  I  don't  think  so.    Just  a  -  because  the  color 

differences  are  -  or  the  color  is  completelv  dif- 
ferent.    So  that  -  that's  what  -  that's  an  open 
question  on  that  one,  and  I'll  have  to  find  out 
the  next  time  around. 

CC  Any  thoughts  about  the  light-colored  annulus 

around  D-Caldera. 

CMP  Ho.     I  couldn't  see  a  light-colored  annulus. 

CC  Okay.     Hey,  we  need  a  RECORDER,  ON,  here  on  the 

lunar  sounder. 

06  19  k9  16    CMP  Oh,  okay.     Let's  see.     RECORDER  is  -  The  RECORDER 

is  ON. 


CC 


Okay,  Ron,  let  me  read  you  some  questions  here 
real  quick  on  EuCaldera.    Determine  the  color 
difference  between  D-shaped  expression  and  it's 
surroundings.     I  think  you  pointed  some  of  that 
out.     You  got  any  more  comments  on  that? 


Tape  109B/7 


CMP  Okay.     There  is  nothing  -  surrounding  D-Caldera 

that  looks  anything  like  the  -  the  silver  -  silver- 
gray  meterial  that  has  depressed.     It's  definitely 
depressed  with  -  with  respect  to  the  surrounding 
terrain.     The  little  humps  that  are  in  D-Caldera 
are  the  same  color  and  the  same  -  smoothness  - 
kind  of  -  smoothness  as  the  rest  of  the  material  - 
the  mare  material  surrounding  the  area. 

CC  Okay. 

06  19  50  17    CMP  I  could  not  detect  the  -  an  external  annulus  around 

the  caldera  itself. 

CC  Okay.    Do  -  do  you  feel  that  any  of  the  material 

on  the  caldera  is  related  to  the  material  in  the 
immediate  vicinity? 


C-f-IP 


The  smooth-looking  -  let  me  get  my  picture  -  the 
smooth-looking  -  bumps  in  there  are  definitely  - 
doesn't  look  to  me  like  they're  the  same  material 
as  the  stuff  in  the  whole  area. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  They're  smooth  -  tannish. 

CMP  You  know,  if  I  look  at  that  picture,  the  dark-colored 

stuff  looks  to  me  like  it's  a  depression,  you  know? 
And  it's  -  and  it's  the  other  way  around.    The  light  - 
light  -  the  light-colored  light-albedo  stuff  in  the 
picture  is  the  part  that's  depressed  and  the  darker 
portions  that  look  like  the  -  the  material  surround- 
ing the  area  is  the  part  that's  raised  up. 

CC  Roger.     We  copy  that.     ...  on  D-Caldera,  do  you  have 

any  view  of  any  more  of  this  terrain  below  you, 
or  are  your  windows  pretty  well  messed  up? 

06  19  52  17    CMP  It  just  got  dark. 

CC  Okay. 


CMP 


Yes,  I  -  I  stopped  talking  Just  about  the  time  we 
got  to  the  terminator. 


Tape  109B/8 

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Okay.    Good  show. 

Let  me  -  let  me  go  "back  to  a  map  and  make  sure  I 
was  talking  about  P  Crater. 

Ron,  I  think  if  you  put  an  order  of  priority  on 
some  activity,  as  far  as  the  geology  goes,  you 
might  consider  sketching  out  on  Shorty  -  with  just 
a  rou^  handle  on  where  you  thought  you  saw  some 
of  the  coloring  differentiation  up  on  the  northern 
side  of  Shorty  -  and  also  give  some  thought  on 
F  Crater,  if  you  will.     I  know  you  didn't  get  a 
chance  to  look  at  it  because  -  If  we  can  tie  up  the  - 
what  you  see  from  orbit  on  Shorty  to  what  we  know 
we've  got  from  the  ground  truth,  we  might  really 
have  something  here,  as  far  as  matching  up  on  some 
of  these  other  craters, 

Uh  huh;  that's  a  good  point. 

Guess  I  can  change  the  DAP  here  and  get  that  out 
of  the  way. 

Well,  let's  see,  just  kind  of  fouled  that  one  up. 
Really  wanted  lh2,  narrow  dead  band,  don't  you,  at 
lU2,  269,  and  0  -  and  359?    Thought  we  were  already- 
in  that  attitude. 

Ron,  you  might  want  to  trim  your  attitude  that  - 
you  were  not  to  go  to  that  VERB  k9.     That  was  the 
deleted  at  one  thir  -  at  l66:36.     That  VERB  1+9  was 
deleted,  and  your  attitude  is  back  to  the  - 
IU2,  269,  and  359,  and  you  mip}.t  want  to  trim  that 


Okay.     Just  did  it.     Thank  yoUj  Bob.     I'd  have 
done  it  by  myself  if  I  hadn't  .-rone  to  CMC  FREE, 
but  I'd  forgotten  we  were  already  in  that  attitude. 

Roger.     No  sweat  here;  you  got  a  minute    jr  so  before 
we're  in  the  lunar  sounder  attitude  for  the  Marius 
Hills  there. 

Okay;  l66:l+2.  , 


Tape  109B/9 


06  19  58  16    CC  And,  Hon,  you  may  be  interested  that,  after  we  got 

the  Ivmar  soimder  msatvirated  there  with  the  dif- 
ferent attitude,  we  -  we  could  detect  the  SEP  in 
the  lunar  sounder  data. 


CMP 


Oh,  very  good.    Kind  of  proves  it's  working  anyhow. 

'C  Yes,  that's  for  sure.     Everybody  seems  to  "be  pretty 

tickled  with  what  they're  getting  so  far.  Just 
hope  the  film  comes  out  as  well. 

Oh,  I'm  sure  it  will.    People  out  at  Goodyear  out 
there  at  Litchfield  Park  do  a  good  Job. 


CMP 


06  20  01  39    CC  Ron,  we  got  30  seconds  to  T-start. 

CMP  Oh,  thank  you. 

06  20  01  50    CMP  OPERATE;  she  started  at  1*2:12.     Okay.  RECORDER'S 

OK;  RADAR  is  ON.     Go  to  work. 

CMP  9  -  - 

06  20  02  12    CC  MARK. 
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  10,  11,  go.     Hey,  it  worked  out  fine  (chuckle). 

Must  have  hit  it  3  seconds  early. 

Roger.     I  still  haven't  figured  out  how  to  time 
this  thing,  I  guess. 

(Laughter)    No,  that  was  good.     I  got  the  mark 
the  SEime  time  I  did  it. 

Okay,  and  you  can  relax,  Ron,  and  I'll  give  you  a 
call  at  UO  -  about  30  seconds  prior  to  ^7:10,  so 
you  don't  have  to  sit  there  and  watch  for  anything. 


CC  Okay,  I'll  - 

CC  Got  to  earn  my  pay  down  here  somehow. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Boy,  you  already  have,  I'll  tell  you. 

06  20  06  37    CC  Okay,  Ron.    We're  about  30  seconds  from  T  -  from 

LUNAR  SOUNDER  STANDBY  time. 


Tape  109B/10 


CMP  Okay;  7:10,  OPERATE  to  STANDBY. 

06  20  07  06    CC  5  seconds. 

06  20  OT  09    CC  MAEK. 

06  20  07  Ik    CMP  Got  it. 

06  20  08  10    CC  Okay.    There's  your  1  minute,  Ron. 

06  20  08  16    CMP  Okay.     RECORDER  is  going  OFF,  not  to  HEATEEs. 

Joger.    Good  show,  Ron.  _Farouk  Just  came  out  and 
said  a  real  good  show.    He's  real  excited  about 
what  you  saw  there,  and  we're  real  pleased  with  it. 

CMP  Okay.    I  think  I  said  north  and  as  I  look  at  the 

map  -the  orange  distribution  goes  generally  about 
a  -  a  crater  diameter  to  the  north,  but  it  essenti- 
ally starts  -  Well,  if  you'd  cut  a  -  on  a  60-degree 
angle  -  from  Dog  Sierra  at  63  -  cut  a  60-degree 
angle  there  and  then  -  and  then  make  that  go  around  - 
out  about  a  crater  diameter. 


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CMP 


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Okay.     To  the  north  at  Dog  Sierra  at  63? 

Yes,  Dog  Sierra  at  63;  that's  on  the  1+00-meter  scale 
there. 


CC  Yes,  I've  got  it. 

06  20  09  50    CMP  On  TL-50.    And,  at  the  right-hand  side  -  if  you're 

looking  at  the  thing  from  the  bottom,  the  right- 
hand  side  is  0  -  go  up  60  degrees.    You're  6o  degrees 
up  from  the  horizontal  and  30  degrees  down  from  the 
vertical.    It'll  be  something  about  like  that. 

CC  Okay. 


It  had  kind  of  a  brownish-oranp:e  tint  to  it. 


06  20  11  57    CC  Ron,  I  guess  one  of  the  things  that  at  least  t^oes 

through  Stu's  and  my  mind  on  that  Shorty  Crater  - 
and  I  think  you  dispelled  it  when  you  say  it  goes 
out  like  in  a  60-degree  angular  cone  away  from  it. 


Tape  109B/11 


But  the  question  we'd  really  like  to  be  thinking 
about  -  Is  that  a  concentric  coloring  around  there, 
like  it  might  be  just  a  layering  from  a  flap  ov  - 
you  know,  a  turned-over  flap  or  something  like 
that,  or  whether  it  just  seems  to  be  some  sort  of 
a  -  I  don't  want  to  say  flow,  but  something  that 
would  give  it  direction  that  one  -  the  one  60-degree 
direction  like  that. 

CMP  Yes,  I  see  what  you're  saying.    And  -  It  all  - 

almost  looked  to  me  like  it  was  gradational,  as  you, 
as  you  went  away  from  the  crater.    In  other  words, 
more  -  more  orangish  -  more  orangish  closer  -  closer 
to  the  crater  than  as  you  got  away  from  it. 

06  20  13  05    CC  Okay.    We're  -  we're  ending  up  looking  at  future 

passes,  not  today  probably,  but  for  the  future 
and  see  if  we  can  fit  in  one  or  two  more  observa- 
tions to  you  here,  where  we  can  set  up  the  back 
room  like  we  had  in  all  the  -  if  you'll  go  along 
with  that,  and  if  we  can  fit  it  in,  would  you  like 
to  do  that? 

CMP  Oh,  sure.     The  crater  that  I  described  as  looking 

comparable  to  Shorty,  I  don't  think  is  the  one  on 
Family  Mountain.    I  think  it's  the  one  on  -  bright 
dot  -  about  the  same  size  dot  as  Shorty  on  the 
17-1  leadin  for  the  -  lT-1  for  the  landmark  tracking. 

CC  Okay. 

06  20  1I+  15    CMP  I  think  Family  Mountain  is  the  bigger  of  the  two 

mounds  to  the  west  of  the  landing  site,  isn't  it? 

CC  Stand  by  a  minute,  Ron.     Let  me  clarify  that. 

Roger,  it's  west  of  the  landing  site,  and  I  believe 
it's  the  bigger  of  the  two. 

CMP  Yes.     Okay.     The  one  that  I  said- that  looked  like 

Shorty  is  kind  of  between  the  two  mounds ,  and  that '  s 
the  one  I  looked  at. 


CC 


You  say  it  looked  like  Shorty  or  looked  like  the 
other  one? 


CMP  -  -  ...  a  little  bit. 


Tape  109B/12 


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F  Crater  or  Shorty? 

Looked  -  looked  like  Shorty. 


CC  Okay. 


Ron,  we'd  like  the        TMKs  and  3  FMs  to  ON,  please. 


06  20  15  ll8    CMP  Okay,        TANK  2  FAN  is  ON  now;  TANK  3  PAN  is  ON. 


CMP 


Roger.    Thank  you. 


20  16  53    CC  Ron,  I  just  might  draw  your  attention  to  the  Flight 

Plan  at  16?: 20,  in  that  area  where  the  lunar  sounder 
finishes  up,  and  it  says  that  there  will  be  no  SIM 
bay  or  PCM  data  recorded  until  l69:C3  and  then  you 
have  to  configure  the  DSE  there.    Just  want  to  draw 
your  attention  to  that. 


Okay.     That's  a  good  point. 


06  20  17  33    CMP  Hey,  when  you  all  drew  that  60-degree  angle  were 

you  making  that  63  degrees  up  from  -  not  60  - 
60  degrees  up  from  line  63? 

CC  Yes.     I  -  I  didn't  know  how  to  handle  on  63,  but 

I  took  a  point  at  Dog  Sierra  and  63  and  kind  of  - 
caught  -  created  a  6O- degree  cone  away  from  the 
crater  at  that  point. 

CMP  No,  you  want  to  create  a  semicircle.     Iliafs  the 

center  of  the  sem  -  Well,  let's  see.    With  the 
flat  half  of  the  semicircle  along  the  line  that 
goes  through  Dog  Sierra  63  and  Dog  Whisky  57. 

CC  Dog  Whisky  57?  Roger. 

CMP  Right. 

Okay.    I've  connected  a  line   

Connect  a  semicircle  to  the  right  of  that  line. 


Okay.     To  the  right  of  that  line  or  -  to  the  north 
side  of  that  line? 

Yes.  Actually,  it  will  be  kind  of  to  the  northeast, 
but  to  the  north  side  of  it,  yes. 


Tape  109B/13 


06  20  22  03    CC  Ron,  we're  going  to  lose  you  shortly,  and  all  the 

systems  look  GO  here.     I've  got  a  bet  with  EECOM 
that  you'll  get  everything  in  the  Flight  Plan.  You 
won't  miss  anything  for  me. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    We'll  try.     Hey,  before  I  go, 

take  a  look  at  Crisi\im  and  Serenitatis,  3  of  5; 
and  the  second  one  down  from  the  top  -  or  second 
one  from  the  north,  is  the  one  I  was  looking  at  as 
that  -  is  described  as  -  as  a  partially  subdued 
and  -  I  mean  a  rounded- type  thing  with  -  with  the 
kind  of  breaches  in  the  side  of  the  wall  -  what  I 
consider  breaches  in  the  side  of  the  wall, 

CC  Okay.    We  got  it.    Crisium,  3  of  5,  second  one 

from  the  north,  huh? 

06  20  22  ItT    CMP  Yes.    And  the  other  one's  not  even  circled;  it's 

Just  north  of  the  -  the  one  in  the  bottom,  and 
that's  the  one  that  even  shows  up  on  here  and  the  - 
impact-type,  because  it's  got  ray  -  ray  material, 
but  it's  a  fresh  impact  bringing  up  bluish  - 
bluish- type  material. 

CC  Okay.    Good  show.    You're  -  you're  saying  that  the 

two  of  them  are  distinctly  different  from  -  when 
you're  viewing.    One's  impact  ajid  one  is  possibly 
volcanic  . . , 

CMP  Yes .     Right . 

06  20  23  20    CC  Good  show. 


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Tape  llOA/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAHSCRIPTION 

06  19  2h  10    LMP-EVA    Couldn't  help  that  one. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.  I  think  we  get  some  more  level  spots,  I  can 
dust  this  thing  back  there. 

LMP-EVA    Am  I  really  on? 

CDR-EVA    You're  high-    You're  twisted.    Go  away  from  me  one 
twist. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Is  it  cataght  in  something?  Yes,  it  is.  You're  - 
Hold  it  -  wait  a  minute  -  get  up,  get  up,  get  up. 
You've  got  -  you're  sitting  on  -  get  up. 

LMP-EVA    VJhat  am  I  sitting  on? 

CDR-EVA    Can't  get  out.     You  didn't  put  this  away.  Wait 
a  minute.    Get  up,  out  -  all  the  way. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  that  thing. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  this  thing. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right.    That's  where  it's  setting  high.  I 
knew  I'd  forget  that.    Okay.    Now,  let  me  get  this 
thing  out.    Okay.     Okay.    Let's  press.    Better  get 
latched. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    All  set? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 

06  19  25  36    CDR-EVA  We're  rolling.  Bob. 

LMP-EVA  LMP  frame  -  is  130. 

CDR-EVA  You  got  a  lot  of  static  now? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay . 


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LMP-EVA    Hey,  you  got  a  rock  on  your  right.     I  guess  you  -  - 
CDR-EVA    Yes.    I  got  them. 
I24P-EVA    .  . . 

CDR-EVA    I  got  the  lov  gain  set.    Hello,  Houston ;    Do  you 
read? 

CC  Roger.    We  read  loud  and  clear. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

06  19  26  10    LMP-EVA    Okayi  how  about  that  field,  not  this  block  but 

there's  sort  of  a  collection  of  them  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.  out  there  

LMP-EVA    -  -  way  out  there,  about  300  meters  or  so. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  at  least.  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Oh;  going  into  the  Sun,  I  can't  see  a  thing  to 
tell  you  about  Wessex  Cleft. 

CC  Okay.    Station  T  is  nominally  208  and  3.3,  but 

it's  any  group  of  any  significant  boulders  you 
want  to  stop  at  in  reality. 

CDR-EVA  Understand. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  easy. 

CDR-EVA    You  feel  like  you're  on  a  downs lope  over  there? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  feel  like  you're  about  ready  to  spin  out 
downhill  any  minute. 

CDR-EVA    Do  you?    I  don't  feel  that  at  all  up  here. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  it's  hard  to  give  you  much,  looking  into  the 
Sun  the  way  we  are. 

CDR-EVA    We  must  be  about  200  meters  up  the  slope,  looking 
at  that  little  valley  down  there.  Jack.    Am  I 
right? 


Tape  llOA/3 


LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  think  you're  right.     The  pattern  on  the 
slope  really  doesn't  look  much  different  than  on 
the  light  mantle.    Matter  of  fact,  it  looks  very 
much  like  ligiht  mantle,  except  for  these  large 
blocks  that  are  in  it. 

06  19  27  23    CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    And  you  gt^rs  may  still  have 

your  visors  up.    We  can't  tell,  but  you  might  he 
better  off  with  them  down,  if  you've  forgotten 
they  they're  up. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  boy,  I  can't  see.    Ity  hands  work  Just  as  well 
as  ray  visor,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

CDR-EVA  No,  I  can't  believe  -  mine  could  be  up. 

LMP-EVA  You've  got  a  crater  right  in  front  of  you. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    That  looks  like  a  pretty  good  pile  to  work 
on. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Let's  go  over  in  there. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  wait  a  minute.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Bob ,  what  heading  are  you  going  to  want  me 

to  park  on?  I  want  to  get  in  that  flat  area.  Jack, 
sol  can  dust  the  radiators . 

06  19  27  57    LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CC  We  have  no  constraints.  Gene.    This  is  going  to  he 

a  very  short  station.     Probably  not  more  than  10  or 
15  minutes.    But  just  to  grab,  as  I  say  a  maxi- 
mum variety  of  hand  samples  with  a  minimum  amoiint 
of  documentation  and  a  minimum  amount  of  time . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We  can  do  a  pan,  and  pick  up  a  lot  of  those 
small  ones ,  Jack . 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Rather  than  trying  to  chip. 

CC  Okay.    We  would  like  to  have  the  -  - 


Tape  llOA/U 


CDR-EVA 


I'd  like  to  see  us  a  little  more  level. 


CC 


 TV  camera  and  its  mirrors  ajid  stuff  dusted 

there,  however.  But  we  won't  do  anything  to  the 
hattery. 


LMP-EVA    I  thought  you  were  going  to  stop  back  there. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  okay.     I  was  going  out  -  out  here  around  this 
big  one. 

liMP-EVA    I'm  sorry.    I  misunderstood  you. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     See,  there's  a  lot  of  little  ones  up  in  here 
I  want  to  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Do  not  do  anything  to  the  batteries. 
Understand. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-EVA    I  can't  figure  out  where  you're  going  to  stop. 

CDR-EVA    Right  in  here  -  right  here  to  give  you  as  much  of  a 
level  spot  as  I  can.     That's  about  as  level  a  spot 
as  I  can  find.    I'm  inside  the  slope  of  a  crater. 


LMP-EVA    You  want  me  to  help  you  with  it  -  that  thing,  Geno? 

CDR-EVA    No,  I'll  get  it.     Only  one  guy  can  do  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  just  -  we'll  take  -  you  take  a  pan  before,  and 
we'll  start  picking  up  some  of  those  samples,  and 
I'll  take  a  pan  afterward. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  see  here. 

CDR-EVA    See  what  kind  of  variety  we  can  get  here. 
LMP-EVA    There  is  another  one  of  our  blue-gray  breccias  , 


I  think,  over  there;  recrystallized  breccias  with 
some  of  that  crushed  anorthosite  in  it.     I  think 
right  in  here  I'm  going  to  take  the  pan  at  about   


06  19  29  05  CDR-EVA 


Bob,  I'm  at  200/3.3. 


CC 


Copy  that. 


Tape  110 A/ 5 


CC  And,  Jack,  what's  your  frame  count? 

LMP-EVA  131. 

CC  Okay.    Press  on. 

06  19  30  23    LMP-EVA    Bob,  I'm  going  to  take  the  pan  at  11  -  feet,  so 

you  can  see  the  fragments  that  we  are  going  to 
pick  up  here.    Then  we  can  take  another  oneat  - 
for  location  work. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Should  have  it.  Boh. 

06  19  31  09    CC  We've  got  a  TV.    And,  I  repeat,  we'd  like  to  get 

some  dust  both  on  the  mirror  -  diisting  of  the 
mirror  and  the  lens  of  the  TV;  TCU  and  the  TV. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  you  -  let  me  get  you  out  of  the  Sun. 

CDR-EVA    I  wouldn't  do  this  for  anybody  but  you,  you  know 
that . 

CC  Okay.    Looks  good.  Gene.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    You  know  what?     I'm  getting  tired  of  dusting.  Viy 
primary  tool ,  the  dustbrush  and  the  hammer  -  and 
my  head.    Okay.    You  ready  to  start  picking? 

LMP-EVA  Picking. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And   

CDR-EVA    You  notice  the  temperature  difference  with  that 
high  Sun  angle? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  Roger.     You're  probably  letting  in  a  lot  of 

infrared  through  that  -  without  having  that  gold 
visor  down,  too.    That's  sort  of  an  infrared  shield. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  mine's  been  down  ail  the  time.  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that . 


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CDR-EVA    Except  in  the  shade. 
06  19  33  09    LMP-EVA    Okay,  5^0  is  the  first  ha^  of  selected  samples. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'm  going  to  leave  it  open,  but  don't  let 
me  -  let  me  get  - 

CDR-EVA    Here,  put  that  one  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute,  let's  get  a  hag  on  it.    We're  getting 
too  many  rocks,  and  ve  don't  know  where  they  came 
from. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  think  it  will  fit.    Know  it? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  we'll  wrap  it  a  little  hit.     ...  it  will  fit. 
...  fit. 

06  19  3U  03    LMP-EVA    Okay.    Bag  5^*1  is  partially  around  another  big  rock 

in  Gene's  -  Gene's  collection  bag. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  get  pictures  of  this  thing  here? 

LMP-EVA    Yes;  well,  not  the  big  rock  yet.    Not  in  focus 
anyway. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  to  do  that. 

LMP-EVA    I  was  Just  collecting  in  this  area. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  keep  grabbing  a  few,  and  I'm  going 
to  -  - 

LMP-EVA    That's  what  I'm  doing. 

CDR-EVA    That's  one  of  the  blue-gray  rocks.  Bob.     And  it's 
got  a  light-colored  fragment  that  runs  the  full 
hei^t  of  it,  about  a  meter  and  a  haJ-f  thick.  And 
then  it's  got  the  gray  or  blue-gray  rock  on  the 
other  side.    As  a  matter  of  fact  -  Let  me  look  at 
it  closely.    It's  a  fragment  in  it  all  right. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.  Gene.    And  remember  to  document 

around  the  corner  at  your  . . .  get  some  photo 
documentation  of  the  bovilder. 


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CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  wouldn't  be  absolutely  positive,  but  it 

svoce  looks  like  I  see ,  a  dikelet  in  here  that '  s  in 
the  inclusion.    And  I'm  going  to  get  a  closeup 
stereo  of  it.     I'd  call  it  a  dikelet,  if  you 
pinned  me  down. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Pin  him  down. 

CDR-EVA  I  wish  I  could  break  a  sample  right  off.  Here's 
another  one.  It  is  a  dikelet!  There's  three  or 
four  of  them. 

CC  Okay,    Copy  that.  Gene.    Very  good. 

CDR-EVA    Oh  -  me ;  oh ,  ray .    The  material  in  the  dike  looks  - 
Yes,  it  is,  it  is,  it's  not  covering  it.  It's 
between  the  -  it's  between  the  -  lighter  colored 
rock,  and  it's  the  blue-gray  rock. 

06  19  37  05    LMP-EVA    5U2  is  another  bag  of  goodies . 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Gene,  let  me  get  rid  of  this. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  wait  a  minute.     I  got  -  I  got  -  Well,  maybe  it 

isn't  a  dikelet.  Maybe  it's  just  a  screen  covering, 
a  flow  covering. 

LMP-EVA  No,  you  got  -  They're  -  they're  dikes. 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  -  let  me  - 

LMP-EVA  They're  little  veinlets  of  - 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  get  this  whole  thing  in  a  bag. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  a  -  I  got  a  rock.  Bob.     It's  fractured, 

primarily  around  the  dike.     It's  in  several  pieces, 
but  we're  going  to  put  it  all  in  one  bag. 

06  19  37  35    LMP-EVA  5^+3. 

CDR-EVA    Some  of  the  men  are  going  to  have  to  assemble  that. 

CC  Copy,  5^+3. 


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LMP-EVA   Here . 

CDR-EVA    Here,  I  got  -  I  got  -  Let  me  get  it  piece  by  piece. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    We  need  to  get  a  -  put  one  of  those  dikes  in 
another  bag.    Bob,  it  looks  like  some  fraction  of 
the  blue-gray  material  has  obviously  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Not  too  full.    That's  all  right. 

LMP-EVA    intruded.    Huh?    Now,  can  you  get  that  dike 

there?    Piece  of  it? 

CDR-EVA    That's  right.  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  get  that? 

CDR-EVA    I  can  get  it  right  here. 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  think  -  No,  get  the  piece  with  the  -  you  get 
more  of  it,  right  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,    It's  this  soft,  white  inclusion  again.  It 
breaks  pretty  easy. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  it's  got  to  be  a  dike.    Look  at  that. 

LMP-EVA  It  is.     It  is. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

06  19  38  kO    LMP-EVA  Okay,  5^1*. 

CC  Cojsy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  yes,  it  is  because  I  just  broke  into  it. 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA  I'm  looking   

CC  And  we'd  like  to  have  you  guys  moving  again  in 
5  minutes  to  get  to  station  8  on  time . 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.     Looks  like  -  although  the  blue-gray  up 

on  the  hill  looked  like  a  fragment  breccia,  if  this 
is  still  related,  then  it's  -  been  some  partial 
melting  at  some  time. 


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CDR-EVA 

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LMP-EVA 


There's  a  preserved  contact  between  the  dike  and 
the  -  - 

That's  what  I  wanted. 

-  -  white  material. 
That's  what  I  wanted. 

Why  don't  we  get  this  big  piece  of  dike  now? 

See  if  you  can  get  -  Whoa!     Don't  hit  it  again. 
There,  you've  still  got  some  -  still  got  some 
contact  there. 

Now,  there's  some  good  contact.    Man,  that'll  do 
it. 

Okay. 

that'll  do  it. 

Dike  and  intruded  rock  in  5^^.     Now,  these  dikes 
are  a  dark  bluish-gray.    And  it  looks  like  there 
are  some  -  it  looks  like  they're  very  finely 
crystalline  -  maybe  with  some  -  - 

Get       bag.     I'm  taking  some  closeups . 

-  -  very  fine  phenociysts . 
Okay, 

Okay.    We  copy  that. 

We  ought  to  get  -  Well  -  we  ought  to  get  a  piece 
of  the  normal  gray  that  the  dikes  are  coming  from. 
You  got  your  hammer  handy  still? 

Yes . 


I  want  to  get  this  -  - 
Go  ahead. 


Tape  llOA/10 


CDR-EVA  finish  docxunenting  this  thing. 

CDR-EVA    Ah-hah !    Ah-hah 1 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  over  here  on  this  side,  it  looks  like  the 
veslciilar  anorthositic  gahbro, 

CDR-EVA  I  got  to  get  some  regular  pictures  on  this  set. 
Okay.  Here's  the  -  if  that  one  won't  come  off, 
this  one  will.    Got  it? 

06  19  1*0  38    LMP-EVA    And  -  Yes.     561.    That's  a  sample  of  the  gray, 

looks  like  recryst alii zed  hreccia  that  the  dikes 
are  continuous  with. 

CC  Okay.    And  a  - 

Ltff-EVA    And  a  -  Boh,  that's  my  turn  to  say  "and  a."  And 
the  -  the  vesicular  rocks  - 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  finish  the  stereo  around  the  corner  here. 

06  19  Ul  19    CC  Okay.    And  you  guys  have  dropped  the  scoop  there 

on  the  ground.    And  we're  ready  for  you  guys  to 
leave . 

CDR-EVA    I  know  you  are. 

CC  And  you  might  grab  one  FSR  on  the  way  out. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We'll  do  that, 

06  19  ^1  39    LMP-EVA    Okay.    There's  that  one.    The  vesicular  anorthositic 

gabbro  is  in  5  -  What  is  it?  62, 

CDR-EVA  62, 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  this  in  there,  and  you  take  the  - 
LMP-EVA    I  got  to  get  the  scoop. 

CDR-SVA    Scoop,  and  I'll  get  the  hammer.    Then  make  sure 
yowc  bag  is  closed, 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I've  got  to  check  yours,  too.     Let  me  get 
uphill  from  you,  though. 


Tape  llOA/11 


CDR-EVA    Wait  a  niinute.     Give  me  the  hammer.    Hows  that? 
Can  you  get  it  now? 

LMP-EVA   This  is  one  of  the  worst  hags  we've  had  -  packing. 

It  Just  doesn't  stay  down.     Probably  -  If  we  get 
time  somewhere,  we  ought  to  change  that  out. 

CDR-EVA    Two  of  the  corners  are   

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Well  - 

CDR-EVA  How's  she  doing? 

LMP-EVA  It's  okay.     It'll  hold  for  a  while. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

06  19  k2  52    CDR-EVA  Okay.    Here's  an  FSR  that's  about  - 

CC  And,  Jack,  you're  untied  on  one  -  one  side  of  your 

bag  is  undone  again. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I'll  get  it  -  for  you. 

06  19  h3  09    CDR-EVA    Here's  a  football-size  rock  that  was  50  percent 

varied. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  grip  it?    I  got  the  gate  open. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  get  your  bag.    Hey!    Did  you  see  the 
way  I  handled  that  hammer? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Tell  you  what,  I'm  getting  accustomed  to  things. 

CDR-EVA    That  gate's  a  little  sluggish,  too.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I  think  everything  is  so  full  of  dust,  nothing 
wants  to  move  any  more. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    That  one  looked  like  a  piece  of  the  gray 
rock,  I  think. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I'll  bet  I  didn't  push  the  gravimeter  here. 
Did  I,  Bob? 

CC  No.    We'll  get  it  at  station  8. 


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LMP-EVA    No.    They  didn't  tell  us  to. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Jack,  you're  going  to  have  to  close  the  gate, 
and  I'll  have  to  hold  the  hig  bag  over  the  top. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack,  before  you  leave,  we'd  like  you 

to  change  mags  before  you  get  to  -  before  you 
leave  this  station. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.    I'll  do  that.    No.  ...? 

CDR-EVA    Wait  a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  don't  push. 

LMP-EVA    I  won't. 

CDR-EVA    One  of  those  little  . . .  strip  -  Okay ,  now  you  can 
push.    Okay,  that's  blocked.    Well,  it's  in.  Wait 
a  minute,  wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute.    Let  me 
see  what's  going  on  in  there.    Oh,  -  we  -  this 
thing  isn't  -  didn't  -  isn't  released  all  the  way. 
Pull  it  out  this  -  That's  it.     Push.     Okay,  now  - 

LMP-EVA    There,  you  got  it.    It  went  in. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  that's  the  dvst  again.    Now,  the  bag's  in  the 
way.    Let  me  get  the  bag  out. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  you  might  get  the  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Now  shove  it.    That's  too  much.     Wait  a 
minute,  wait  a  minute,  wait  a  minute.    Let  me  - 
Okay.    Let  me  lift  it  up  and  do  it.     Well,  wait  a 
minute,  I've  got  to  tweak  this  thing.    Okay,  now 
shove  it  in.    Right  now. 

LMP-EVA    That  got  it.    No?    Why  don't  you  play  with  it,  and 
I'll  see  if  I  can  change  a  mag. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  dadgummit!     That  latch  is  - 

LMP-EVA    . . ,  ? 


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CDR-EVA    I'll  lock  it.     1*11  Just  push  tliat  latch  -  that 
latch  is  just  sticking,  that's  all.     It's  Just 
dust,  I  guess.    I  don't  know  what  you  do  ahout 
those  problems . 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  what  magazine  did  you  want.  Bob? 

CC  Magazine  Mike,  as  in  Mary. 

06  19  1*5  56    CDR-EVA  Okay.    It's  latched. 

CC  Gene,  you  might  spend  your  time  taking  a  -  - 

CDR-EVA  It's  latched. 

CC  -  -  standard  7U-foot  pan  while  Jack  is  changing  his 
mag,  if  you  got  a  chance  there. 

CDR-EVA    That's  a  splendid  idea,  sir.    And  that's  exactly 
what  I'll  do.    I  don't  mind  going  uphill,  because 
it's  so  much  fun  coming  down.     Down  in  my  little 
hole  here.    Oh!    That's  stability.  That's 
stability. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  Challenger  looks  a  long  way  away.  That's 
3  kilometers ,  huh?. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

06  19  hj  26    LMP-EVA    Okay,    Mag's  changed. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Bob,  those  two  bags  with  the  goodies  in  them  will 
have  enough  soil  to  be  representative  of  the  area 
we  sampled,  too,  I  think. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.    And  did  you  guys  get  your  bags 

fixed  up  there.  Jack?    We  were  concerned  about 
your  SCB  for  a  while. 

LMP-EVA    No.    We  have  to  do  that. 

CDR-EVA    We'll  do  it . 

CC  Okay. 


Tape  llOA/llt 


LMP-EVA    Look  at  my  camera  lens  and  see  how  dirty  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    Now  it's  the  other  hook  that  came  -  tiorn  a  little 
more  left.    No,  it  didn't  -  it  didn't  come  off,  I 
don't  think  -  unless  it  -  the  bottom's  off,  hut  the 
bottom  is  not  going  to  stay  up.    And  it's  not  - 
you're  not  going  to  lose  it.    The  tops  are  so 
ti^t  you'll  -  Your  bottom's  loose,  but  that  - 
that's  because  your  harness  shrunk  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    It  looked  like,  from  time  to  time,  guys, 

that  only  one  of  Jack's  hooks  was  hooked.     On  the 
top. 

06  19  1*8  37    CDR-EVA    Yes.    They're  both  on,  and  they're  both  tight. 

And  

CC  Okay.    We  copy. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  the  bottom  hooked  again,  too. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Bottom  -  but  his  bottom  is  not  going  to  stay. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Check  my  lens. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  your  lens  is  beautiful! 

LMP-EVA  ...    What's  mine  look  like?    Can  you  see  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  know  it's  clean.    Let's  forget  it. 

06  19  k&  58    CC  Okay;  and,  IT,  as  you  get  around  to  the  front 

there.  Gene,  would  you  dust  the  LCRU;  we  don't 
think  you  did  that  here,  and  the  top  of  the  TV 
camera.    And,  Jack,  would  you  take  a  peek  at  the 
SEP  temperature  for  us? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  sorry.  Bob.    I  already  did  that  when  we 
stopped  at  the  station. 

CC  Okay.     It's  ...  -  - 

06  19  ^9  17    LMP-EVA    SEP  temperature  is  about  II5. 


Tape  llOA/15 


CC  Copy.  115. 

CC  Okay,  then.    Press  on. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  this  is  tied  down  everywhere.    You're  just 
going  to  have  to  watch  it. 

LMP-EVA    I  will.     Okay,  I'm  in. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  we  seem  to  do  an  awful  lot  of  down -Sun  driving 
for  -  or  up-Sun  driving  for  all  the  plemning  we  did. 

CC  Yes.    Wait  until  we  come  home  from  station  8,  then 

we'll  take  care  of  it. 


CDR-EVA    Okay . 

CC  And,  Gene,  as  you  get  started  there,  we'd  like  a 

couple  of  Rover  "battery  temperatures  ;  at  least 
one,  we  know  what  the  other  one  says.    And,  Jack, 
we  might  get  a  frame  count  from  you  -    Oh,  excuse 
me,  we  already  got  that.    Thank  you,  "because  it's 
changed. 


06  19  50  U8    CDR-EVA    Well,  okay,  110;  and  CDR,  "by  the  way,  is  about 

73  on  the  frames . 

CC  Copy  that. 

06  19  51  00    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Boh.     I'd  like  the  range  and  hearing  to  the  - 

We're  roll  -  we  - 

LMP-EVA    How  did  you  get  in  reverse? 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know. 

06  19  51  09     CDR-EVA    Okay.     We're  rolling,  and  I'd  like  tlie  range  and 

bearing  to  the  next  - 

CC  Okay.    We  want  a  heading  of  around  1  -  we  want  a 

heading  of  around  125,  and  there's  going  to  be 
a  short  -  a  small  turn,  I  think  it's  at  crater  - 
the  SWP  Crater  at  225  and  3.^,  there'll  be  a 
slight  turn.    That's  a  heading  of  125  is  what  you 
shoiild  start  out  on. 


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LMP-EVA 


That's  what  I'm  looking  for. 
And  225  and  3.h  - 
I  thou^  we  were  bypassing  - 
No,  we  j\ist  do  that  -  - 


I  thought  we  were  bypassing  SWP. 
-  -  to  ...  the  planning  stages . 
225  and  3.h.  Okay. 
That's  pretty  close  to  nominal. 


Yes.     ...  got  my  -  Man,  I  tell  you,  this  little 
navigation  map  I 've  got  on       hand  -  cuff  checklist 
is  -  is  unquestionably  the  greatest  thing  that  I  've 
ever  -  done. 


Sure  hard  to  tell  where  north  is  on  it,  though. 

Trying  my  best  to  keep  you  out  of  those  slopes . 

That's  all  right.    I'm  learning  to  tolerate  it. 

Okay,  Bob.    We're  pretty  close  now  to  -  no,  reeLLly 
not.    We're  still  about  100  meters,  I  think,  from 
where  the  break  in  slope  is  -  with  the  flank. 
And  -  but  we're  away  from  the  block  population 
except  for  scattered  -  two  great  big  blocks  out 
ahead  of  us,  this  side  of  the  SWP  Crater.    And  - 
but  the  average  population  is  down  to  the  1  percent 
or  less,  again. 

That  average  population  really  never  changed  up 
in  here.    Just  the  big  blocks  were  around.  I 
saw  some  little  -  - 


Half-meter  to  one-third-meter,  glass-lined, 
pit-bottom  craters . 

Look  at  the  size  of  those  things! 


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CDR-EVA    Boy,  aren't  they  big  mamoos  (laughter). 

LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    And  it  looks  like  they're  probably 
the  same  thing  that  we  sampled.    They  have  the 
inclaisions  in  them,  white  inclusions.    They  look 
like  a  mixture  of  gray  and  the  -  sort  of  a  tan-gray 
of  the  -  the  gray  of  the  recrystallized  breccia, 
and  the  tan-gray  of  the  anorthositic  gabbro. 

06  19  5^  02    LMP-EVA    That  must  -  Hey,  look!    There's  Van  Serg,  blocky 

rim  crater.  That's  the  other  side  of  Cochise  there. 
See  it? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Way  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,    Cochise  is  certainly  a  shallow  crater, 
aJ-though  we  knew  that.     It  doesn't  have  any  - 
it  only  has  one  place  I  can  see  that  has  any 
blocks  on  the  inner  wall  of  Cochise.  Otherwise, 
it  has  a  surface  nnich  like  what  we're  driving  on 
for  walls  and  for  the  floor.     One  place  on  the 
south  -  southeast  wall  is  a  concentration  of  blocks 
much  like  we  saw  in  Henry  or  in  Horatio.     But  the 
rest  of  the  crater  seems  to  be  pretty  well  mantled. 
Van  Serg  is  a  very  blocky  rim  crater,  big  blocks 
up  on  the  rim. 

CDR-EVA    Do  you  have  a  lot  of  static.  Jack,  or  is  it  just 
me? 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  think  it's  just  you.    People  are  always 
giving  you  static. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  if  you  are  still  reading  me,  I'm  looking  at 
the  Sculptured  Hills ,  and  I  still  have  that  - 
that  old  man  wrinkled  face  appearance,  even  up  close 
at  this  Sun  angle.    And  those  wrinkles  go  from, 
generally,  upslope  at  the  west  to  downslope  at 
the  east. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  are  you  -  No,  you're  right  at  the  edge  of 
Cochise.    Aren't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Where?     Right  here? 


LMP-EVA 


Yes.    Aren't  you? 


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No,  we're  not  that  close.    Uh-\ih.     Cochise  is  up 
at  -  see  that  rim  where  those  blocks  are? 

No,  that's  a  small  crater. 

Oh,  I'll  bet  you  that's  Cochise  up  there.  We've 
got  to  go  quite  a  ways  yet  to  get  to  - 

How  about  a  range  and  bearing  there,  guys? 

This  sideslope  driving  is  reaJLly  a  tough  -  - 

How  about  a  range  and  bearing? 

Okay.     It's  210/3.1+. 

Copy  that.    210/3. And  you  should  be  somewhat 
noi-th  of  Cochise  there,  as  per  planning,  although 
you  may  be  cutting  south  to  try  going  directly 
up-Sun. 

I  guess  that's  some  other  -  That's  Just  a  depres- 
sion.   I  think  Cochise  is  over  that  rim. 

That's  Just  a  depression.    Yes,  yes.     Those  are 
getting  warm. 

Yes,  I  tell  you  that .    Every  bump  you  go  over  on 
that  sideslope  is  Just  accentuated. 

Yes,  we  don't  think  you're  anywhere  near  Cochise. 

Yes .     I  agree . 

Yes.     I  think  it's  over  that  rim  up  there. 

That's  Just  a  big,  shallow  depression. 

All  I'm  doing  is  flying  the  3 . l*-kilometer  arc 
right  now. 

Say  again  there.  Gene. 

There's  another  one  of  those  deep  craters  that's 
not  -  that  doesn't  have  a  blocky  rim. 

Okay.  21U/3.U. 


Tape  llOA/19 


CC  Copy. 

LMP-EVA    That's  one  of  the  more  striking  characteristics 

of  the  mantle  are  these  craters  that  look,  as  far 
as  the  diameter-to-depth  ratio  is  concerned,  like 
they  ought  to  be  fairly  young.    But  there's  no 
blocks  on  the  rim,  and  they  seem  to  be  -  have  this 
mantled  appearance.  Just  like  some  of  the  large 
craters . 

CDR-EVA    As  I  look  up  Wessex  Cleft  from  Just  about  abeam  of 
it  -  Let  me  get  over  here  -  It  still  shows  me  an 
albedo  chajige  and  a  surface  wrinkle-texture  change . 

LMP-EVA    And  -  yes,  I  think  so.     I've  got  it  at  the  same 
Sun  angle  more  or  less,  or  part  of  it  there. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that.    You  guys  may  be  getting  Just  a 

little  far  north . 

CDR-EVA    It's  sort  of  a  perfectly  formed  ... 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CC  You  may  want  to  head  Just  a  little  south  to  avoid 

running  right  into  the  middle  of  SWP  Crater. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    I  think  we  see  it  now.     Is  that  SWP? 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I  don't  know.     I  don't  - 

CC  SWP  will  be  at  22  -  SWP  will  be  at  225  and  3.U. 

CDR-EVA  Yes.    That's  my  -  that's  what  I'm  shooting  for.  Bob. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  I'm  Just  flying  a  3.^  mile  -  or  kilometer  arc. 

CC  Roger.    I  was  going  to  suggest  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  there's  something  I  haven't  mentioned,  but  if 
one  had  time  on  the  next  program  -  - 

06  19  58  31    CDR-EVA    I  think  that's  SWP  right  there.  Jack. 


Tape  llOA/20 


liMP-EVA  you  can  sample  secondary  craters,  and  they  tend 

to  have  blocks  either  in  them  or  on  one  rim, 
suggesting  that  you  covld  tell  directions  if  you 
put  your  mind  to  it.    Directions  of  the  -  where 
the  secondaries  came  from.    These  stre  small  ones. 

CDR-EVA    Did  we  ever  get  a  piece  of  glass  in  place? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  did  yesterday. 

CDR-EVA    Documented  in  place? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    That's  what  I  was  trying  to  protect  in  the  SRC 
yesterday. 

06  19  59  00    CDR-EVA    Here's  SWP,  Jack.    It's  coming  right  up,  and  I'll 

go  along  the  southern  rim. 

LMP-EVA    I  wish  I  wouldn't  lose  -  start  concentrating.  I'm 
forgetting  to  take  my  pictures. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    Don't  forget  to  take  your  pictures. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  tell  you,  if  we  don't  concentrate,  we  end  up  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'll  quit  thinking  and  Just  take  pictures. 

06  19  59  25    LMP-EVA   There's  a  crater,  that  double  pit-bottom  crater. 

That's  the  first  one  of  those  I've  seen. 

CDR-EVA    Right  here.  Jack,  you're  going  to  be  able  to  peek 
right  over  the  top  of  SWP. 

LMP-EVA  Right. 

06  19  59  36    CDR-EVA    Right  here.    How's  that  grab  you? 

LMP-EVA    That's  SWP,  all  right.    SWP's  a  bigger  hole  than  I 
thought  it  was. 

LMP-EVA    Mi^t  -  SWP  even  has  some  blocks  in  the  wall. 


Tape  llOA/21 


CDR-EVA   Yes,  but  the  eastern  and  southeastern  rim  of  SWP 

are  just  continuous  -  Ooh  -  they're  Just  continuous 
with  the  slopes  of  the  Scxilpt-ured  Hills . 

CC  Okay .     Copy  that . 

06  20  00  16 •  CDR-EVA    How  does  238 A. 2  sound  for  the  beginning  of  8? 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  you're  - 

CDR-EVA    May  have  to  take  these  slopes  Just  the  most 
comfortable  way  we  can. 

CC  238  and  h .0  we're  expecting  for  station  8,  the 

beginning  of  it.    238/1^.2  -  U.O,  excuse  me;  k.O. 

CDR-EVA  Roger. 

CC  And  remember  again,  station  8  is  a  very  flexible 

area.    You  Just  get  to  a  place  where  it  looks  like 
it's  feasible  to  sample  Sculptured  Hills. 

LMP-EVA   That's  right. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  tell  you,  this  Rover  is  a  machine.     I  don't 
know  if  it  saw  that  hill  we're  climbing,  but  I  did. 

LMP-EVA    How's  yooir  -  how' re  you  doing? 

CDR-EVA    Doing  fine.     I'm  trying  to  get  around  SWP  over  here 
and  start  hitting  that  - 

LMP-EVA    East  Massif  has  outcrops  on  it.     I  can  see  now  on 
the  north  side.    And  they  also  tend  to  have  linear 
upper  terminations .    And  some  of  those  line  up  as 
if  there's  roughly  horizontal  structure  within  the 
upper  one-half  of  the  East  Massif. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that,  Jack.    Stop  thinking  and  take 

pictures. 

LMP-EVA    Go  by  that  little  dark  crater  over  there.  Thiare's 
a  very  blocky-rim  small  crater  that's  a  dark-rim 
crater  Instead  of  a  bright  rim  like  we'd  seen  some 
around  that  looked  fresh.    It  partly  may  be  the 
angle  at  which  we're  approaching  it. 


Tape  llOA/22 


06  20  02  35    CDR-EVA    Bob,  we're  on  the  southeastern  rim  of  SWP  at  226 

and  3.6. 

LMP-EVA    Why  don't  we  get  some  samples  of  that  material 
in  there. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Right  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Keep  driving  toward  the  rim  and  then  just  - 
a  shallow  curve.    Ofcay.    Now,  cuarve  it. 

CDR-EVA   That  your  spot? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Right-    Just  keep  going,  and  I'll  stop  you. 

LMP-EVA    Whoa,  straight  in.    Good,  good. 

06  20  03  03    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    226/3.6.    There's  a  -  there's  a 

hi^ly  fragmental,  small  crater  about  1|0  -  30  or 
UO  meters  across ,  right  on  the  southeastern  rim 
of  SWP.    And  at  -  there's  a  -  most  of  the  frag- 
ments are  football  size  and  smaller,  and  they're 
very  angular.    And  probably  the  inside  of  that 
rim  is  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Turns  out  that  they'll  break.    They're  clods. 
CDR-EVA    Are  they  clods? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  guess  that's  going  to  be  about  70  percent 

covered  on  the  inside  of  the  rim  with  these  things. 

LMP-EVA    It's  all  instant  rock,  but  the  crater  rim  looks 
dark  compared  to  -  to  other  fresh  craters  like 
this  that  we've  seen. 

06  20  03  hi    CDR-EVA    50  Yankee. 

CC  Copy.     50  Yankee. 


Tape  llOA/23 


06  20  03  52    LMP-EVA  And  the  frame  count  is  26.     LMP  frame  is  26. 

CC  Copy  that.    Press  on. 

06  20  Oh  02    LMP-EVA  Yes,  you're  ...    We  are,  we're  rolling. 

CC  And,  17,  we're  hoping  to  go  to  station  8a   

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Your  wheels  are  just  chewing  those  things  up. 

CC  -  -  the  northernmost  section  of  station  8,  if  we 

can,  of  course. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    I  think  -  I  think  we  ought  to  head  just 
about  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    We'll  get  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  the  most  -  I  think  we  ought  to  get  below 
the  highest  peak  up  there  because  that  seems  to 
have  the  rocks  on  it. 

LMP-EVA    I  only  see  one  rock  so  far  -  - 

CDR-EVA    ...  straight  ahead,  in  there.    See  that  one.  Of 

course,  I  don't  know  where  that  came  down.  Doesn't 
look  like  it  may  have  came  down  from  the  top. 

LMP-EVA    Certainly  aren't  meiny  rocks.    It's  certainly  not 
like  the  old  North  and  South  Massifs.  Yes. 
There's  one  big  rock  over  there.    That  doesn't 
look  like  it  might  be  - 

CDR-EVA   Well,  let's  head  that  way.    That's  about  where 
the  station  is,  anyway. 

LMP-EVA    ...  I  think  we're  starting  to  see  blocks.  That 
one  Is  so  -  so  unusual  - 

CDR-EVA    That's  about  the  station.    That's  the  northernmost 
station  anyway.    There's  another  one  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  this  probably  is  -  We  can  get  the  other 

smaller  population  around  it.     I'm  worried  about 
that  one  being  exotic  to  the  Sculptured  Hills. 


Tape  llOA/21* 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  it  doesn't  look  like  it  rolled  - 
LMP-EVA  Ho. 

CDR-EVA    But  I  don't  see  any  others,  do  you? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  there's  some  small  ones  up  in  there.  Off 
to  about  the  2  o'clock  position.    But  I  think 
that's  all.    We're  going  to  have  to  be  satisfied 
with  small  ones.    Big  ones  don't  get  down.  There's 
some  big  ones  way  up  on  the  slope. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  see  those. 

LMP-EVA    Watch  it;  crater.    You're  ... 

06  20  05  59    CDR-EVA    Yes,  let  me  get  it  for  them.    Okay.  We're 

at  227/3.9. 

CC  Copy.  227/3.9. 

CDR-EVA    I  think  it's  worth  -  There's  smaller  ones  around 
here,  too,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    That  looks  like  subfloor  from  here. 

CDR-EVA    What's  it  look  like?    If  it  doesn't  look  worth- 
while stopping,  I'll  move  on  up  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  looks  like  subfloor.     I  woiad  recommend 
that  we  -  - 

CDR-EVA    All  right. 

LMP-EVA    try  to  get  up  to  some  of  those.     I  don't  know 

whether  we  can  or  not.    How's  your  -  what's  your 
pitch  indicate? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that  doesn't  mean  anything. 

LMP-EVA    See  that  -  those  two  up  there  would  be  reasonably 
well  up  the  slope. 

06  20  06  hi    CDR-EVA    Bob,  no  parking  constraints  on  the  battery? 


Tape  110 A/ 25 


CC  Roger.    No  parking  constraints.    We'll  park  at 

0U5»  Gene.    Or  wherever  you  like,  really. 

CDR-EVA    I  have  to  park  ahout  0U5  "because  I've  got  to  'be 
pointing  uphill  so  ve  can  get  out. 

CC  Okay.    Either  ~  any  place  you  want  to.     0U5  is  fine. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I'm  going  to  park  -  - 

LMP-EVA    How  afcout  just  that  rim  of  that  little  crater 
there? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  this  is  so  level  right  here.  Jack,  I'm 
going  to  just  park  it  - 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  was  jvist  thinking  on  top  of  that  crater 

is  closer  to  the  -  That's  level,  too,  on  the  rim. 
It'll  give  them  a  view  of  the  -  a  good  view  of  the 
sampling  area.     I  think  we  caji  -  if  we  work  on 
those  blocks  there,  we're  in  pretty  good  shape. 

06  20  07  28    LMP-EVA    Bob,  we're  directly  downhill,  and  that  is  from  the 

highest  point  that  I  could  see  up  on  this  first 
mass  -  first  Sculptured  Hill . 

06  20  07  ho    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I'm  parked  at  026;  bearing  is  226;  distance, 

6.6;  range,  ^.0;  amp-hours,  85  and  8O;  battery 
is  1  -  I  think  it's  115;  and  motors  are  all  off 
scale  low. 

CC  Okay  

CDR-EVA    Kot  really,  but  -  Okay   

CC  And  here ,  we  would  like  -  - 

CDR-EVA  0  -  230  on  the  -  on  the  forward  and  off  scale 

low,  and  220  on  the  right  rear. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.    We'd  like  to  get  the  usual 

dusting  here.    Up  front. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     And  I'm  fairly  level. 


LMP-EVA 


Not  really. 


Tape  llOA/26 


CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
06  20  10  17  CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 


I 'm  not ,  huh? 

(Laughter)     I  just  about  rolled  downhill  again. 

Oh,  man.     (Laughter)     I  am  pointing  uphill, 
aren't  I? 

Yes. 

Well,  at  least  we  don't  have  a  sideslope. 

And,  17,  we'd  like   

Battery  covers  stay  closed? 

Battery  covers  stay  closed.    But  we  do  want  the 
LCRU,  and  the  TV  camera,  and  the  TCU  dusted. 

Okay. 

And,  17,  we'd  like  the  SEP  blankets  opened  and 
dusted  one  more  time. 

I  think  you're  a  dreamer.  Boh,  but  I'll  do  it. 
Roger.    We  keep  hoping. 

Start  doing  your  thing.  Jack.  It's  going  to  take 
me  a  little  while  to  get  this  dusted. 

Bob,  the  first  block  I  looked  at  here  looks  like 
sub floor  gabbro. 

Okay.    We  copy  that. 

Shovild  have  it.  Bob. 

Okay.    We've  got  a  picture. 

You  even  sound  better.     Battery  covers  are  awful 
dirty,  but  I  will  not  dust  them  as  long  as  you're 
happy. 

Yes.    I  don't  think  dusting  the  battery  covers 
gives  us  any  cooler  batteries. 


Tape  110 A/ 27 


CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

CC 

06  20  12  00  CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 
CC 

06  20  12  39  CDR-EVA 


Well  5  I  know;  "but;  it  keeps  the  batteries  from 
getting  dust  in  them.     I've  had  pretty  good  luck 
with  them.     They've  "been  pretty  clean. 

Roger  on  that , 

You  are  dusted;  and  you're  shiny  bright  all  over. 

Okay.     Copy  that. 

We  thank  you.    Ed  thanks  you. 

And  we  all  thank  you.  Listen,  if  Ed  thanks  me, 
that's  enough.  A  man  couldn't  ask  for  any  more 
than  that.     Okay.     I've  got  my  ...  -  - 

I  think  your  LMP  just  ran  away. 

Where 'd  he  go?  Jack? 

What? 

Oh,  there  you  are.     I  thought  maybe  you  fell  in 
that  crater  I'm  looking  at.    Okay.    I'm  going  to 
give  you  a  TGE  reading. 

Roger.    Give  us  a  mark. 

0^lr  fender's  beginning  to  fade  and,  uh-oh,  the 
clip  came  off  on  the  inside;  that's  what's  wrong. 
We'll  have  to  fix  that  before  we  stsirt .    The  out- 
side ones  hold  but  the  inside  one's  not. 

Bob-o,  all  the  blocks  bigger  than  20  centimeters 
that  I 've  looked  at  up  here  are  subfloor  gabbro 
in  appearance . 

Copy  that . 

I've  looked  at  about  five. 

Did  we  get  a  mark  there  on  the  gravimeter.  Gene? 
Thirty  seconds  to  go,  Bob. 


Tape  llOA/28 


CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

IMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

06  20  13  56  CC 


Roger.     I  copied  it.    Just  vanted  to  check. 

Okay.    Jack.    You  find  anything  up  there? 

Gene,  I'm  going  to  go  up  and  look  at  this  one 
rock.    Why  don't  you  set  up  and  sample  any  one 
of  these  other  "big  ones.    They're  all  the  same. 
Like  the  one  near  the  Rover.    And  I'll  go  up  and 
try  to  get  this  "big  one  dovn  there. 

Well,  okay. 

It's  the  only  one  left  to  look  at,  but  right  now 
we're  dealing  with  subfloor  material,  I  think. 

What  about  some  of  these  little  fragments  that 
seem  to  be  sitting  more  on  the  surface? 

Yes,  we're  supposed  to  rake  here.  We'll  get  those 
with  the  rake. 

That  one  up  there,  by  the  way,  is  sitting  on  the 
surface.    These  others  are  submerged. 

Yes .    That ' s  why  I  want  to  look  at  it • 

If  you  -  you  won't  -  you  don't  have  a  hammer,  but 
if  you  need  me,  I'll  come  up  there  because  I  think 
that  may  be  worthwhile. 

I'll  roll  it  down  to  you. 

Yes  .    Thanks  a  lot . 

A  reminder,  IT.    We'd  like  to  have  you  leaving 
here  in  30  minutes  to  make  up  some  of  the  time 
we  spent  at  stations  6  and  T»  a  little  extra. 
And  we'd  also  remind  you  that  we'd  like  a  rake 
soil  sample  here,  too.    That  may  be  the  only  way 
we  try  and  pick  up  some  stuff  other  than  subfloor 
if  that,  indeed,  has  come  down  from  the  top  of  the 
Sculptured  Hills . 


Tape  110 A/ 29 


06  20  ik  20    LMP-EVA    OkEQr,  Bob.    This  rock  is  a  big  chunk  of  shattered, 

but  still  visible,  bluish-gray  anorthosite.  It's 
glass-coated,  and  it  actuaJ-ly  looks  like  it's 
vesicular.     I'm  going  to  roll  it  downhill  so  we 
can  work  on  it.    Well,  I'll  document  it  first. 

LMP-EVA    Did  you  copy  that? 

CC  Roger.     I  copy  that.    We'll  be  watching  it  coming. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    But  the  point  is,  as  Gene  said,  it's  the 

only  rock,  big  one  anyway,  in  the  area  that  I  see 
that's  perched  on  the  s^orface  as  if  it  might  have 
rolled  here . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  But  I  don't  see  a  track. 

CDR-EVA  Man,  this  one  here  is  tough  as  a  - 

LMP-EVA  Well,  we  can  get  some  .small  ones. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     That's  what  I'm  going  to  do.     I  tell  you, 
this  one  is  so  - 

LMP-EVA  I  thought  you  might  be  able  to  break  it  up. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  there's  no  -  there's  no  corners  on  it. 

Kff-EVA  Ready  for  this? 

CC  We're  ready. 

06  20  16  28    CDR-EVA  Bob,  563  is  the  sample. 

CC  Copy,  563. 

CDR-EVA  Over  here  to  the  -  ...  -  ~ 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  ready?    Are  you  ready  for  this? 

CDR-EVA  I'm  not  sure  I  am,  but  go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA    Go,  rollo     Look,  I  would  roll  on  this  slope,  why 
don't  you?     Five-sixths  gravity  that's  missing. 
Hey,  I'll  bet  you  they  would  like,  if  I  didn't 
step  on  it,  saxiiple  out  of  the  bottom  of  that  thing. 


Tape  llOA/30 


CDR-EVA    Yes,    These  others  all  look  -  You're  right.  Jack, 
thQT  look  like  what  we've  been  sampling.  And 
they're  all  pretty  well  mantled  except  the  ones 
you  got  up  there.    There's  one  more  piece  I  see 
on  the  side  of  that  crater  that  may  not  be. 

06  20  17  kh    LMP-EVA    Bag  51*5  will  be  soil  from  under  that  anorthosite 

boulder.  Bob,  the  only  thing  that  bothers  me 
about  that  boulder  being  subfloor  -  I  mean  at 
Sculptured  Hills  -  is  that  it's  glass-coated. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    It  may  have  been  thrown  in  here  by  an  impact. 
Oh,  you're  here. 

CDR-EVA    Thou^t  I'd  sample  it,  and  then  roll  it  down. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  okay.     I  never  would  have  moved  it  if  I 
thought  you  were  coming  up. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  wasn't  coming  up;  but  I  looked  at  some 
of  those  others,  and  there's  only  one  more  - 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Well,  I  got  it  documented  up  in  place. 

Let's  -  That's  not  the  -  I  think  that's  the  side 
that  was  down.    Let  me  roll  it  over  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  let  me  get  a  piece  of  that  side  since  it 

was  underneath .    Then  we ' 11  roll  it  over  and  get 
a  piece  of  the  other  side. 

LMP-EVA    Good  thinking.    Oh,  okay,  yes.    Let's  do  it  again. 
Except  I  got  dust  elLI  over  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well  - 

06  20  18  57    LMP-EVA    The  albedo  -  the  down-Sun  picture's  not  going  to 

mean  much.  Let  me  get  this  sample  in  your  bag. 
I  think  we  ought  to  change  your  bag  because  the 
stuff's  going  to  start  flying  out. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    It  won't  stay  closed. 


Tape  110 A/ 31 


CDR-EVA  Jack,  after  this  one,  there's  only  -  there's  one 
more  in  that  crater.    It  may  "be  from  that  crater, 
but  I  don't  know. 

LMP-EVA  How's  your  hand  for  hammering? 

CDR-EVA  Ohhhh 

LMP-EVA  This  will  be  easy.    This  will  be  easy. 

CDR-EVA  The  old  hammering  hand  - 

LMP-EVA  This  will  be  an  easy  one.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  Two  pieces  for  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Let  me  

CDR-EVA  Oh,  that's  a  pretty  one  inside! 

LMP-EVA  Well,  it's  stained  by  the  glass  coating. 

CDR-EVA  Oh. 

LMP-EVA  It's  stained  by  that  glass  coating. 

CDR-EVA  That's  a  pretty  one  Inside. 

CDR-EVA  Can  you  get  that?    Here,  take  my  hand. 

LMP-EVA  Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA  While  I'm  at  it,  I'm  going  to  chop  another  piece 
off  right  here. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  get  more  than  that. 

CDR-EVA  Piece  right  there.    You've  got  three  pieces  laying 
around.     Let's  get  those  before  we  lose  them. 

06  20  20  26    LMP-EVA  Bag  ^6h .    Maybe.     I  -  Okay,     I  got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Have  you  already  got  them  in  the  bag? 

LMP-EVA  No. 

CC  Copy.    We  copy;  36k  from  the  bottom  of  the  boulder. 


Tape  llOA/32 


CDR-EVA    Sure  that's  the  bottom,  huh? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it's  got  -  mixed  with  local  soil.    I'm  pretty 
sure.    Let's  txxrn  it  over.    I  think  I'd  recognize 
the  top,  although  it's  got  dust  all  over  it  now. 

CDR-K\rA    I  think  I'll  get  one  more  swap  off  there.     I  don't 
want  to  seal  this.    Let  me  get  another  swap  off 
there.    I  can  get  it. 


LMP-EVA  Okay. 


LMP-EVA    Well,  that  disappeared.     Get  it  this  way. 

CDR-EVA    One  time.    That  disappeared,  too?    That  probably 
went  into  orbit. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 


CDR-EVA    Boy,  is  that  pretty  inside.    Whoo!    We  haven't 

seen  anything  like  this.  I  haven't.  Unless  you've 
been  holding  out  on  me. 

LMP-EVA    No,  this  is  a  nice  crystalline  rock. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  see  that  one. 


LMP-EVA    Where  did  that  one  go? 


CDR-EVA    That's  a  good  one.     I'll  go  get  it  with  my  tongs. 

That's  a  good  one.    That  one  I  worked  too  hard  to 
get.    Hey,  I  see  how  it  makes  boulder  tracks.  I 
just  made  one  -  it  just  -  it  Just  skipped  along, 
made  those  little  pothole  craters  as  it  went. 

06  20  22  30    LMP-EVA    Hey,  Houston.    This  is  a  -  about  a  50-50  mixt\ire 

of  -  what  looks  like  maskelynite  or  at  least  blue- 
gray  plagioclase,  and  a  very  -  let's  say  yel  -  light 
yellow-tan  mineral,  probably  orthopyroxene .  It's 
fairly  coarsely  crystalline. 


Copy  that.    Okay.    When  you  guys  get  done  with  that 
rock,  we'd  like  to  get  to  the  rake  sample,  please. 
And  that's  probably  just  as  well  done  by  the  Rover 
as  anyplace  else.    We  don't  seem  to  see  anything 
worthwhile  here  doing  besides  that. 


Tape  llOA/33 


CDR-EVA    Did  you  get  it? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

06  20  23  29    CDR-EVA    Okay.    That  went  in  the  same  hag,  Bob,  as  the 

other  -  rest  of  the  chips  from  the  bottom.  All 
the  chips  from  the  bottom  are  in  k6h. 

CC  Copy. 

LMP-EVA    Here,  let  me  roll  it  over.     Go  ahead.    Want  to 
put  it  in? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA    By  coarsely  crystalline,  it's  -  probably,  the 

average  grain  size  will  turn  out  to  be  about  3  or 
k  millimeters,  maybe  -  maybe  half  a  centimeter. 
Hold  this,  and  I'll   

06  20  2h  09    CDR-EVA  Well,  I  got  to  go  get  a  couple  of  pictures. 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Yes,  we  really  got  that  one  messed  up, 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  - 

LMP-EVA  That's  all  right. 

CDR-EVA  If  you'd  hold  your  scoop  where  that  one  came  off, 
it'd  help. 

LMP-EVA  Yes:    I  was  just  going  over  there. 

CDR-EVA  On  that  other  side. 

LMP-EVA  Just  going  over  there . 

CDR-EVA  This  side  is  clear.    That  last  one  I  took  off.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Right  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  that's  good.    Let's  move  the  gnomon,  and  we 
won't  roll  it  over  on  the  gnomon. 


Tape  110A/3lt 


LMP-EVA    Watch  it.    Watch  it.    Oh,  yes.    That  other  side  is 
the  one  that  was  up.    Well,  I'm  not  sure  now. 
It's  got  so  much  dust  on  it.    But  let's  - 

CDR-EVA    It's  not  going  to  roll  dovn  that  hill  unless  we 
got  it  on  edge. 

LMP-EVA    No.    Did  it  come  up  to  you? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  look  at  that  glass  on  it.    That's  what  you 
said,  huh? 

LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Which  side  was  the  glass  on  when  you  looked  at  it? 
LMP-EVA    It's  on  all  sides.    It's  on  all  sides. 

17,  there's  protably  not  much  point  in  spending 
a  lot  of  time  out  here  trying  to  decide  which  is 
the  top.    It's  not  big  enough,  anyway,  really  to 
worry  about  -  - 

CDR-EVA    We're  not. 

CC  -  -  the  top  and  bottom  samples.    They're  radiol- 

ogically  significant. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  let's  -  If  you  don't  want  another  sample,  then 
we  can  go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  let  me  get  a  piece  of  this  glass. 

LMP-EVA  Righto. 

LMP-EVA  There  it  is.    Okay.    Let  me  try  to  get  them.  Put 
them  in  here. 

06  20  26  29    CDR-EVA  Okay;  a  piece  of  the  glass  from  it.  Bob,  is  3k6 . 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  5U6. 

CDR-EVA  With  a  little  of  the  local  soil. 

CC  And  now  we're  ready  for  you  guys  to  rake  -  - 


Tape  llOA/35 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    We'll  rake. 

CC  -  -  and  I  guess  they  suggest  the  crater  rim  if 

possible.    Probably  over  there  near  the  Rover. 

IM'-EVA    Okay.    Wow  you  got  a  sample  of  that  big  block 
down  there ,  huh? 

CDR-EYA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Don't  forget  your  gnomon.    Whoo!     Oh,  boy. 

06  20  27  08    CDR-EVA  Bob,  on  my  frame  count;  85. 

CC  Copy,  85  for  the  commander. 

LMP-EVA  Too  bad  I  don't  have  my  skiis. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  did  you  get  a  pan  up  here? 

LMP-EVA  No . 

06  20  27  25    CDR-EVA  I'll  get  one. 

LMP-EVA    Good,  I  forgot.    I  got  interested  in  skiing.  Whoo! 
Can't  keep  my  edges.     Little  hard  to  get  a  good 
hip  rotation. 

CDR-EVA    Let's  see,  I  must  be  looking  back  at  -  well,  there's 
SWP.     Golly,  I  don't  know.     I'm  looking  back  at 
the  complex:     Cochise  and  Shakespeare,  and  I  can 
see  the  LM. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Bob.    One  interesting  thing  up  here,  you  can 
see  the  erosional  pattern  of  the  talus,  the  mantle 
that  -  I  c6l11  it  a  mantle,  but  the  talus  that's 
on  the  Sculptured  Hills,  there's  little  -  little 
boulder  tracks  of  all  sizes  from  all  these  little 
clods.     And  they  all,  of  course,  point  downhill  or 
nearly  downhill. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 


LMP-EVA 


Hey,  Bob.  In  the  interest  of  time,  I'll  document 
this  without  the  gnomon. 


Tape  110 A/ 36 


CC 


Okay.    I  presiome  Gene's  got  the  gnomon  up  there. 


LMP-EVA 


Yes.    I  shovild  have  brought  it,  "but  -  - 


CC 


Okay.    Don't  forget  the  gnomon.  Gene. 


LMP-EVA 


-  -  I  didn't  think  about  it. 


CC 


And  ve  concur  -  - 


LMP-EVA 


Don't  forget  the  Gene,  gnomon  [sic]! 


CC 


-  -  with  Dr.  ...  about  the  gnomon. 


CDR-EVA    Wheel    Boy,  when  you  do  this,  and  you  go  downs lope, 
that  first  step  is  a  long  one. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  having  -  This  is  the  best  way  for  me  to  travel. 
Uphill  or  downhill. 

IMP-EVA    What's  that? 

CDR-EVA    Like  this.     Two-legged  hop. 

LMP-EVA    There  seems  -  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    And  on  level  ground,  I  can  skip.     I  don't  like  that 
loping  thing. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  the  loping 's  the  only  way  to  go. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  when  I 'm  on  level  ground,  I  can  skip.  But 


this  two-legged  thing  is  great.    Man,  I  can  cover 
ground  like  a  kangaroo.    Oh,  okay.    You  documented 
already;  I  was  just  going  to  put  this  in  the  field 
of  view  anyway. 


LMP-EVA    Yes .    Here  on  the  after  . . .  right  out  there . 


06  20  33  55    CDR-EVA    Well,  what  do  you  think  about  that?    There's  not 


much  in  here  worth  -  Man,  there's  just  nothing  - 
This  has  been  toteilly  mantled  with  Talus.  Well, 
it  is,  because  that  -  that  downhill  pattern  goes 
ri^t  down  the  slope  of  this  crater,  and,  actually, 
it  goes  upslope  of  the  crater.  This  may  be  on  a 
ray  somewhere.  Because  it  goes  rigjit  downhill  - 
this  little  . . .  boulder  trail  pattern  goes  right 
up  the  slope. 


Tape  110 A/ 37 


LMP-EVA    I  think  those  axe  later  than  the  crater  by  a 
long  ways . 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  -  did  you  sample  anything  over  here? 

LMP-K7A    No,  I  haven't  done  anything  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  pick  up  the  piece  out  of  that 
little   


LMP-EVA    Yes,  get  this   

CDR-EVA    crater. 

LMP-EVA    Want  your  gnomon  over  there? 

CDR-EVA   No.    I'll  jvst  take  it  to  it.    Let  me  know  when 
you're  ready  for  a  pan. 


LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  about  ready. 
CDR-EVA    You  about  ready? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

06  20  32  17    LMP-EVA    I  went  -  I  raked  about  a  2-meter  squaxe  area  - 

maybe  -  yes,  about  2  meters,  and  down  to  h  or 
5  centimeters  for  these.    Pretty  good  population. 
They  all  going  to  go  in? 


CDR-EVA  They're  all  in;  5  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Wait,  wait. 

CDR-EVA    5-565. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that   

CDR-EVA  565. 

CC  Sounds  great.     Sounds  like  a  good  rake  sample  for 
a  change. 


CDR-EVA 


Yes,  sir. 


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CC 

Uff-EVA 
06  20  32  5h  CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
06  20  33  16  CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


And  this  is  a  kilogram  soil  locations,  fellows. 
Yes,  sir. 

Jack,  your  bag  is  full;  we're  going  to  have  -  No, 
it  isn't,  but  we  ought  to  change  it  when  we  get 
back,  anyway.    And  that  one  ought  to  go  under 
your  seat. 

Oh,  okay. 

Get  your  kilogram.     I'll  be  ready  to  take  it. 
The  kilogram  is  in  566. 

Copy  that.    And,  remaining  here,  we'd  have  pri- 
marily a  trench.     If  you  fellows  think  it's 
feasible,  we'd  like  to  be  moving  in  1  -  1  minutes, 
11  minutes .    And  we  coiild  use  a  pan  from  this 
lower  location  also,  probably. 

Why  don't  you  go  back  and  dig  a  trench  at  the 
Rover? 

Roger.    That  sounds  good  to  us. 

And  we  also  remind  you  of  getting  -  - 

Once  you  get  a  trench  at  the  Rover  -  - 

  a  pan  at  the  lower  section  there. 

  we  Just  scoop  this  out.     I'll  get  the  sample 

here  that  I  got  documented  now  and  -  - 

Did  you?    -  Is  that  -  is  that  all  going  to  go  in 
there? 

Yes  ,  it '  11  go . 
Can  you  twist  it? 
Yes. 


Tape  llOA/39 


LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
06  20  35  oh  CDR-EVA 


CC 

LMP-EVA 


That  ...  rock  may  have  been  too  much.     Take  that 
rock  out ,  and  -  - 

No,  it'll  stay.    We're  going  to  have  to  put  it  in 
mine,  though.    Well,  let  me  try.     Since  we're 
going  to  unload  your  hag,  this  may  he  the  last  - 
the  last  one .    That ' s  the  last  one  for  your  bag . 

Okay. 

Okay. 

Did  you  get  anything  out  of  that  little  crater? 

No.    But  I'm  going  to  right  now. 

Okay. 

Why  don't  you  get  your  eifter  picture  over  there 
and  go  down  and  get  that  trench.    I'll  come  down  - 

You  don't  want  a  bag?  Okay. 

I  can  -  I  can  back  it  -  I  can  do  it  - 


Boy,  almost  pure  white  and  very  friable.    Oh,  boy, 
is  it  I    Pure  white.    Right  out  of  a  small  little 
pit  crater  on  the  side  of  this  crater  I  just 
walked  in,  Houston.    And  it's  pure  white,  very 
friable.    I  got  about  -  well,  one  big  piece  and 
several  small  in  567* 

Copy  that . 

Bob,  the  walls  of  these  craters,  the  big  craters 
around  here,  that  is,  the  ones  that  are,  say, 
15  meters  In  diameter,  tend  to  be  a  little  bit 
lighter  albedo  than  ones  down  in  the  mantled  area. 
I'm  afraid  those  pictures  on  that  rake  may  be  a 
little  bit  made  -  be  through  a  dust-colored  lens . 


Tape  llOA/ltO 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  they  were  also  in  my  docijmented.  sample  here, 
too. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Where  do  you  want  this  trench?    On  the  side 
of  this  crater? 

LMP-EVA  Well,   

CDR-EVA    I'll  drop  my  gnomon. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know.    I  don't  -  I  was  Just  thinking 

about  that.    I  think  -  I  think  we  -  we  -  we  ought 
to  get  out  in  the  inner  crater  area  to  see  if 
there's  any  stratigraphy  to  the  -  to  -  to  whatever 
the  talus  is . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack.    I'm  going  to  leave  the  gnomon  right 
here. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    And,  while  you're  digging  that  trench,  we've  got 
to  p€m  to  getj  but  I  want  to  fix  this  fender. 

LMP-EVA  I  guess  this  -  The  pan's  mine,  isn't  it,  this  one? 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  it  is.    And  I  want  to  fix  the  fender  before   

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    before  we  leave.  ...   

CC  Okay.    We  a^ree  with  that,  and  you  might  get  us 
a  -  - 

CDR-EVA    ...  one,  and  I'll  tighten   

CC    you  might  get  us  the  gravimeter  reading  there. 

Gene,  while  you're  at  it.    And  if  you  have  time,  you 
might  drop  the  gravimeter  on  the  ground,  and  we'll 
get  a  reading  with  it  on  the  ground  as  well. 

06  20  37  31    CDR-EVA    Holy  Smoley.    The  gravimeter 's  coming  up.  670, 

096,  001  -  670,  096,  001. 


Tape  llOA/lil 


CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  want  it  dropped  on  the  ground,  huh? 
CC  Gently. 

CDB-EVA    Gently,    I  can't  find  a  gentle  level  spot,  hut 

I'll  level  it.  If  it  takes  pictures  -  or  does  it's 
thing  on  the  Rover,  it'll  do  its  thing  here. 

CC  Yes,  this  is  Just  to  get  a  check  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

06  20  38  lU    CDR-EVA    MARK.  ... 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    It's  fender-fixing  time,  it's  camera-taking-off 
time.    And  I  think  I'll  zap  myself  with  a  little 
cool  water. 

CC  And  how's  the  trench  going,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  down. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  I  tell  you.    V/hen  you  call  for  cold  water, 
does  it  come  in  nicely.    Whew!     I'm  really  happy 
with  this  fender,  really  happy  with  it. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  have  dug  -  have  gotten  a  wall,  now  in  one 
place  that's  standing  ahout  25  centimeters  high. 
And  it  shows  no  apparent  change  in  the  texture  of 
the  soil  to  that  depth;  except  possibly  at  the 
lower  5  centimeters,  there's  some  zones  that  might 
be  slightly  more  granular.    Particle  size  may  be 
up  a  little  bit. 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that.     Probably  Just  three  samples 

then  will  be  sufficient,  then. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  -  I  think  so.    Maybe  four. 

CDR-EVA    Be  there  in  a  minute.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  that's  all  right.    I  can  probably  get  started. 


Tape  llOA/142 


CDR-EVA    Oh,  oh,  oh,  hoy. 
LMP-EVA    Need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    No.    Boy,  we're  sure  giving  this  suspension  sys- 
tem a  workout.    Whew!    I  can't  even  see  it.  Well, 
everything's  getting  awful  dusty.    Boy,  everything 
is  stiff.    Everything  is  Just  full  of  dust.  There' 
got  to  be  a  point  where  the  dust  just  overtakes  you 
and  everything  mechanical  quits  moving. 

LMP-EVA    Like  scoops. 

CDR-EVA    I'm  not  sure  whether  Detroit  would  like  the  fender, 
but  it  will  sure  buy  the  fix.    Okay,  it's  fixed. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  happy;  I  like  it. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy  that.    And  copy  it  again.  And 

we'd  like  to  have  you  guys  moving  in  about 
3  minutes . 

LMP-EVA    Good  luck, 

CDR-EVA    You  need  any  help  you  get  -  bag  those  samples, 
huh? 

IMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.    I  think  I  do.    I  can't  adjust  my  scoop 
to  my  belt-bagging  method. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  back  on  some  lighter  cooling  here  to  - 
to  save  seme  water.    Okay,  now. 

LMP-EVA    Okay  -  the  bottom  10  centimeters   

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  your  bags  -  I  left  my  camera  off  when 
I  - 

LMP-EVA  of  a  -  Well,  shoot!     I  didn't  take  a  picture 

of  the  trench  after  I  dug  it.    Let  me  take  one  - 
one  shot . 


CDR-LM     Which  is  the  bottom? 


Tape  110A/lt3 


LMP-EVA    That's  the  bottom. 

06  20  h2  30    CDR-EVA    Okay.    The  "bottom  is  in  51+8.    It's  very  cloddy. 

Looks  very  much  like  the  surface  we're  standing 
on  except  it  clods  up  quite  a  hit  more.    Can  you 
tell  them  anything  from  the  trench  itself? 

LMP-EVA    I  told  them  -  I  talked  to  them  a  little  bit  about 
it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    It  looked  a  little  coarser  grained,  but  that's  all. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    It  sure  holds  a  nice  wall,  though. 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  kind  of  wall  I  expect  those  core  tubes 
held. 

LMP-EVA    You  got  another  one? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Skim  of  the  upper  -  We'll  see  -  how  well  I 
do  -  skin  sample  of  the  upper  -  half  centimeter. 
Maybe  a  centimeter  deep. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Can  you  hold  this? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  going  to  put  it  in  your  bag. 

LMP-EVA    Is  it  going  to  fit  in  there? 

CDR-EVA    Well,  there's  no  choice,  right  now.     Let  me 

see  if  these  little  ones  will  fit  in  there.  Stand 
by.     I  want  to  put  this  one  in  there,  too. 

06  20  h3         CDR-EVA    That's  in  bag  51+9- 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Try  again.    Okay.    The  upper  -  Below  that 
skin,  the  next  5  centimeters. 


Tape  llOA/ltlt 


LMP-EVA    Put  it  down,  Geno. 
CDR-EVA    .  . .  pfut  over. 
IMP-EVA    Well,  I  can't  turn  it. 
06  20  hh  33    CDR-EVA  550. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    And  the  next  10  centimeters  down  - 
LMP-EVA    Can  you  get  this  one  too? 
CDR-EVA    Yes.    Now,  I  got  to  get  your  bag. 
LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    That  was  the  next  10  centimeters,  and  then 

the  first  sample,  of  course,  was  the  10  centimeters 
below  that. 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that. 

06  20  1*5  05    CDR-EVA    And  that  last  bag  was  551. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.    We're  ready  for  you  guys  to 

move  out. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    You  didn't  get  a  pan  here  -  while  I  clean  up  the 

Rover,  you  can  get  a  -  get  your  after  of  the  trench 
m  the  pan, 

LMP-EVA  I  will. 

CDR-EVA  I'll  get  the  TG  and  clean  up  the  Rover. 

CC  That's  affirm.    We  agree  with  that. 

LMP-EVA  What's  the  key  that  keeps  -  I  keep  getting  keyed. 

CDR-EVA  It  sounds  like  Bob's  stepping  on  his  foot  mike. 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  he's  so  excited  -  - 


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CDR-EVA  Okay  -  - 

LMP-EVA  -  -  he  can't  stand  it. 

CDK-EVA  -  -  You  done  with  the  gnomon? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Okay.     I'll  get  the  pan. 

CDR-EVA    You  get  your  pan,  and  I'll  get  the  TG  and  clean 
up. 

LMP-EVA    You  took  a  pan  up  the  hill  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    I  took  it  way  up  there,  somewhere. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'll  take  it  right  here,  then.    Uh  oh. 

CDR-EVA  What? 

LMP-EVA    Sample  came  out . 

CDR-EVA    The  seaaple  cane  out? 

IMP-EVA    I'll  pick  it  up. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  your  -  your  top  came  open.     It's  awful  full. 
Jack.    If  you  can't  get  it,  I'll  get  it  with  the 
tongs . 

LMP-EVA    Gro  ahead  and  go  to  work,  and  I'll  get  the  pan 
first.    I  lost  two  of  them,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  those  are  the  last  two  I  put  in  there.  They 
just  -  your  bag  is  so  full  they  won't  stay.  Let 
me  give  them  a  reading  here.    Hey,  Bob,  can  I  move 
it  on  the  Rover  and  then  give  you  a  reading? 

CC  Yes.    As  long  as  you're  careful  not  to  hit  the 

button  while  you're  doing  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  won't  hit  the  button.    Just  easier  to  do  it 

that  way.    I  don't  know  why  I  asked  you;  I  know 
I  can. 

06  20  U6  hh    CDR-EVA    Even  this  thing  doesn't  want  to  go  on;  it's  so 

dusty.    Okay.     It's  on  and  it's  locked,  and  here's 
your  reading.    6T0  -  6T0 ,  117,  301  -  that's  67O, 
117,  301. 


Tape  110A/lt6 


CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  to  dust  that  thing  the  next  time  aroiind. 
Jack,  we've  got  to  do  some  bag  changing  here. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I'll  get  those  things  with  my  tongs.    You  can't 
get  them  -  You'd  have  to  bend  over.    Every  time 
you  Jump  around,  you  come  close  to  losing  some- 
thing.   I'll  Just  take  them  back  there.    Put  them 
under  the  seat. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    You  want  me  to  take  that  one? 

CDR-EVA   Ko,  I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Ola&y. 

IJ4P-EVA  Dam. 

CC  You  got  another  one  dropped  there,  Gene  -  Jack 

got  it. 

CDR-EVA    Another  one? 

CC  Jack's  getting  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Jack,  we've  got  to  make  a  place  in  here 

for  your  -  that  full  bag.    Let  me  put  this  small 
can  over  there,  emd  core  tube  over  there. 

LMP-EVA    I  have  a  san^ile. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let  me  take  your  bag  off  first. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Well,  you  might  as  well  fill  it  as  full  as 
you  can. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  am.    Holy  Smoley. 
LMP-EVA    (Laughter)    Turn  -  turn  to  the  left. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    It's  off.    Let  me  fill  it. 
LMP-EVA    Your  bag  isn't  in  much  better  shape. 


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CC  Roger.    We'd  like  to  have  you  check  the  commander's 

bsig.    You  might  put  them  both  under  the  seat  there. 

LMP-EVA   Well,  we're  running  out  of  hags,  aren't  we? 

CC  Okay.    We've  got  one  hag  left  -  we  should  have 

there.    It  was  on  the  gate,  right? 

LMP-EVA    Okay .    Yes .    We  -  we  could  have  put  it  under  the 
seat . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  hag  number  k  -  bag  number  it  is  -  is  absolutely 
full  -  and  it's  under  Jack's  seat. 

CC  Okay.     I  suggest  that  you  take  the  other  bag  that's 

on  the  gate  there,  and  put  that  on  either  you  or 
Jack.    And  also,  the  commander's  bag  is  pretty 
full  also,  we  suspect. 

06  20  U9  57    LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  put  it  on  me?    Mine  gets  full  faster, 

somehow. 

CC  You  mi^t  -  you  might  check  Gene's  bag  anyway. 

CDR-EVA    There.    Stay  there,  stay  there.    I'm  trying  to  get 
the  bottom  off • 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I'm  sorry.     I  checked  it.    He's  got  about  six 
samples  to  go. 

CC  Okay.    And  -  - 

LMP-EVA    And  I  just  want  to  be  siore  that  it's  locked  down. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Well,  turn  to  the  left  so  I  can  get  this 
other  hook . 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    It ' s  not  coming  out ;  I  guarantee  you  that .  No 
. . .  take  your  -  - 

CC  Okay.    And  SCB  5  is  one  for  the  IMP  if  you  want 

to  take  it  off  the  gate. 

CDR-EVA    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    SCB-5  is  on  the  IMP. 


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CC  Okay.     Cory  that. 

LMP-EVA    There  is  nothing  on  the  gate. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  think  that'll  stay  down,  hut  it's  not  very 
good  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I've  got  one  more  loose  sample  I'm  going  to 
throw  in  the  big  hag  back  there.     .. . 

LMP-EVA  A  local  one,  you  mean? 

CDR-EVA  Yes, 

LMP-EVA  Well  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Well,  let  me  leave  it  \mder  your  seat. 

LMP-EVA  Now,  let's  -  Can  I  put  a  bag  a  round  it? 

CDR-EVA  No,  it's  got  a  bag  around  it  -  It's  all  bagged. 

CC  Okay.    Jack,  while  Gene's  doing  that,  why  don't 

you  read  the  SEP  tenrperature ,  or  somebody  read  the 
SEP  temperatxire  arorway,  and  close  the  blankets. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    I'll  do  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.    Let's  see,  you  got  your  readings   

06  20  51  25    LMP-EVA  120,  Bob,  120. 

CC  Copy .    120 . 

LMP-EVA  Those  blankets  Just  aren't  staying  closed. 

CDR-EVA    Ok^.    I  guess  we're  ready  to  head  on  out.  Do 
you  agree? 

CC  Okay.    And,  Gene,  when  you  go  to  change  the  - 

when  you  go  to  change  the  LCRU,  we'd  like  you  to 
turn  it  to  OFF  -  O-F-F,  on  the  POWER  switch,  the 
INTERNAL  POWER  EXTERNAL  switch.    And  we'll  be 
reading  you  through  the  LM.    It  will  give  you  a 
chance  to  cool  down  the  LCRU  on  the  way  home  to 
station  9- 


Tape  110 A/ U9 


CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
06  20  52  51  CDR-EVA 
CC 

C6  20  53  05  LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CC 

CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 


All  right. 

And,  Houston,  what's  the  temperatiire  limit  on  the 
DSEA? 

Stand  by.  Jack. 

Do  you  read  us ,  Boh ,  through  the  LM? 

Roger.    ¥e  read  you  through  the  LM.     Do  read  us 
through  the  LM? 

Yes.    Not  as  well,  but  we're  reading  you. 

Okay.    And  the  temperature  limit.  Jack,  is  I60. 
We'll  just  leave  it  as  is  until  we  get  back  to 
the  LM. 

Okay.     I  was  going  to  say,  we  could  take  it  out 
and  put  it  under  the  seat  or  something,  but  that 
sounds  all  right. 

Okay.  An  EMU  status  check.  I'm  at  388,  and  I 
got  1+8  percent,  no  flags,  and  I'm  INTERMEDIATE 
cooling. 

Copy  that . 

And  the  LMP  -  is  at  hi  percent,  no  flags,  3.86. 
Hey,  Gene? 

Yes. 

What  -  Well,  Bob,  I  guess  -  remind  us  to  change 
the  LRV  sampler  at  the  next  station.     It's  almost 
out  of  bags . 

Okay. 

Well,  let's  do  it  next  time  around. 

Okay.    When  you  get  on.  Jack,  you  can  give  me  a 
frame  count  as  you  start  moving. 

Yes.     Hang  on.     Need  some  help? 

Nope . 


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LMP-EVA  Go  downhill.    Get  yoiir  feet  downhill. 

CDR-EVA  Yea . 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Let  me  help  you. 

CDR-EVA  ( Laughter ) 

LMP-EVA  Watch  it,  there's  a  crater  right  behind  you. 

CDR-EVA  I  got  it.    I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Here,  here.    Grah  my  hand. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  now,  Just  push  up  on  my  head. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    I'm  not  going  to  do  it  too  hard.  Going 
backwards . 

CDR-EVA    All  ri^t;  Just  push  up. 

LMP-EVA  Okay? 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  are  you  -  you  got  your  pockets  completely 
filled  with  dirt . 

CDR-EVA  Well,  extra  samples. 

LMP-EVA  Do  we  throw  those  pockets  away  this  time  around? 

CDR-EVA  Extra  sample. 

LMP-EVA  Are  you  a  mess ! 

CDR-EVA  Well,  that  one  was  coming  for  a  long  time. 

LMP-EVA  My  hand's  are  already  tired  from  dusting  you. 

CDR-EVA    That  one  was  coming.    I  keep  tiying  to  blow  the 
dust  off  my  camera,  which  is  very  frustrating. 

IM'-EVA   Very  ineffective,  too. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Do  we  try  that  trick  again?    You  know  that 
happened  on  an  upslope  getting  on  the  Rover.  Okay. 
I'm  all  locked  in.    Let  me  know  when  you  are. 


Tape  110 A/ 51 


LMP-EVA    How  come  we  aren't  deploying  any  charges?    I  guess 
the  last  one  -  I  remember  when  that  one  is . 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

CC  We'll  deploy  one  at  station  10. 

06  20  55  33    CDR-EVA    Okay.    We're  heading  to  station  9  pointed  about 

267.     Okay,  and  they're  reading  us  through  the 
Dl,  so  I  won't  worry  about  the  low  gain.  We're 
powering  up.    The  switch  is  on.    Okay,  I'm  going 
to  make  a  turn  to  the  right . 

CC  Okay.    And  the  updated  headings,  since  you're  at 

the  north  end  of  station  8  will  he  something 
like  ahout  21^0. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Boh.  2lt0. 

LMP-EVA    Boh,  I  think  your  rake  sample  here  at  the 

Sculptured  Hills  is  going  to  have  to  tell  a  tale 
combined  with  the  observation  that  most  of  the 
hlocks  we  saw  were,  like  Gene  sampled,  looked  like 
subfloor  gahhro.    It's  conceivable  that  the 
Sculptured  Hills  could  be  the  same  kind  of 
material.     I  think  it's  fairly  clear  that  the 
boulder  population  does  not  resemble  the  massif 
population  at  all. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA  You  been  riding  on  this  downslope  all  the  time? 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter)    Yes,  but   

CDR-EVA  And  you  hadn't  said  anything,  huh? 

LMP-EVA  Scary,  isn't  it? 

06  20  56  58    CDR-EVA  Man,  I'm  glad  I'm  driving. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  llOB/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTION 

06  21  13  09    CMP  Hello,  Hoiistonj  America.    It  looks  like  we're  with 

you  again. 

CO  Roger,  Ron. 

06  21  15  02    CC  Ron,  we're  GO  for  retraction  on  EF  antenna  2,  HF 

antenna  2.    You're  GO  for  retraction. 

CMP  Okay,  Just  half  a  second  here. 

06  21  15  22    CC  Hold  on  that,  Ron.    Hold.    We've  lost  data  here 

2  second.    Please  hold. 

CMP  Ckay,  will  do. 

06  21  15  h3    CC  Ron,  will  you  verify  you  hadn't  started  to  retract 

them  yet? 

06  21  15  U9    CMP  Yes,  that's  verified.    I  did  not  touch  anything. 

CC  okay,  fine.    We'll  give  you  another  call,  as  soon 

as  we  get  data  here. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  It's  important,  Ron,  for  us  to  get  the  currents  on 

this  one,  so  we  can  compare  it  on  HF  1. 

CMP  On  the  other  one,  yes.  Okay. 

06  21  17  08    CC  Okay  Ron.     Let's  try  HF  ANTENNA  2,  RETRACT  now, 

please. 

06  21  IT  15    CMP  Okay. 

06  21  IT  27    CMP  There  we  go.     Let's  see.    Give  you  a  countdown  on 

it.    Okay,  5,  U,  3,  2,  1  - 

06  21  17  kk    CMP  MARK  it.    Barber  pole. 

CC  Okay  Ron,  we're  reading  good  data  on  that. 

06  21  19  56    CMP  MARK  it;  gray. 


Tape  llOB/2 


06  21  19  58    CC  Mark  it;  Roger. 

CC  Stand  by  for  HF  2.    We're  changing  some  data  points 

here . 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  I'm  sorry;  HF  1. 

CMP  (Lavighter)    Okay,  no  problem. 

CC  You  should  hear  -  hear  it  in  the  room  when  I  make 

a  comment  like  that.    I  get  lit  people  saying,  "l 
not  2." 

CMP  (Laughter)    Well,  I  knew  what  you  were  talking 

about . 

06  21  21  Ih    CC  Okay,  Ron,  if  you'll  give  us  a  hack,  we're  -  you're 

GO  for  HF  ANTEMA  1,  RETRACT. 

Cm>  Okay,  just  a  second.     (Chuckle)    You  know  that's 

funny,    I  can't  remember  which  one  I  can  see  out 
my  left  window  over  there. 

CC            Believe  you  and  I  covld  call  it  AKTEN  - 
AHTENNA  2   

CMP  I  hope  it's  number  1. 

CC  If  it's  still  out  there,  it  better  be  1. 

CMP  That's  what  bothers  me.    That's  what  I'm  saying. 

If  it's  still  out  there,  it  better  be  1.  Okay. 
I'll  give  you  a  countdown  on  this  one  here-     5,  U, 
3,  2,  1  - 

06  21  22  oil    CMP  MARK  it.    Barber  pole. 

06  21  22  15    CC  We 've  got  ...  -  - 

06  21  22  16    CMP  It's  going  in. 

06  21  22  IT    CC    ...  indication  of  motion  that  it's  going  in. 

Roger.    Is  that  the  one  you  can  see? 


Tape  llOB/3 


CMP  Yes.    I  can't  anymore.    It  was  gone.    I  could  only 

gee  sibout  -  I  don't  know,  6  or  8  -  maybe  8  feet  of 
it  sticking  out  there.    Started  to  nrove  and  it's 
gone ! 

06  21  2h  23    CC  Ron,  we  can  see  stall  cvirrent  now.    Can  you  give 

ANTEMA  1,  OFF? 

06  21  2k  30    CMP  Ok^;  it's  OFF. 

CC  And  you  do  not  have  a  sight.    Is  that  so? 

CMP  It  was  . . .  compared  to  the  other  one . 

CC  That  was  affirm.    I  did  not. 

CC  I  got  about  9  seconds  when  they  called  stall  cur- 

rent; 9  seconds  difference  in  the  other  one. 

CMP  Gee,  it  ox:ight  to  he  pretty  well  in  there  then, 

hadn't  it? 

CC  Yes ,  it  shoTild  he . 

06  21  25  30    CMP  Ready  for  PAN  CAMERA  MODE  to  STANDBY? 

CC  Stand  by;  let  me  ask  OSO.    Stand  by  on  that,  Ron. 

CMP  Wilco. 

06  21  26  07    CC  Ron,  we're  analyzing  the  data  on  the  antenna  that  - 

We're  1  second  out  of  the  tolerance  that  Stan  had 
established  for  determining  it  to  end. 

CMP  (Chuckle) 

06  21  27  kh    CC  Okay,  Ron,  PAN  CAMERA  to  STANDBY. 

06  21  27  50    CMP  Okay,  PAN  CAMERA.     ...  STANDBY.    Errr  -  It's 

coming  on.    Barber  pole.  Gray. 

06  21  28  58    CC  Ron,  you  can  turn  HF  ANTENNA  2,  RETRACT,  switch  to 

the  OFF  position. 

06  21  29  05    CMP  Okay.    Thank  you.  Sorry. 


Tape  HOB /It 


CC  Ron,  on  X-ray  X-ray,  is  it  still  in  -  - 

CMP  He  says  we're  1  second  off?  -  Yes.     Go  ahead. 

CC  If  X-ray  X-ray  is  still  in  the  Nikon,  you  should 

shoot  off  one  frame  as  a  protect  frame,  and  then 
you  can  just  keep  shooting  on  all  the  rest  of  them 
until  it  won't  pull  anymore.    And  you'll  feel  that, 
of  course .    And  those  etre  your  options . 

CMP  Oh! 

CMP  Don't  get  too  happy.    It  might  just  pull  one  -  one 

frame  and  be  done. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Yes;  probably. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  PAN  CAMERA  POWER,  OFF. 

06  21  30  10    CMP  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF. 

06  21  31  23    CC  Ok  -  okay,  Ron.    You  got  your  steno-maphic  [sic] 

tools  out  up  there?    Because  we  got  a  Flight  Plan 
update  for  tomorrow  -  the  trim  burn  or  the  bagel 
burn,  I  guess. 

CMP  Okay.    Ha,  ha.     You  know  what  I  did  on  that  camera? 

I  forgot  it,    I  wound  it  up  in  there.    I  haven't 
had  a  chance  to  take  the  film  out  yet.    But  I  wound 
it  back  in  the  can  (chuckle). 

CC  Okay,  well;  sorry  about  that.    Okay,  let  me  tell 

you,  Ron,  we're  -  all  that  data  analyzed  says  we 
got  a  good  retract  on  HF  antenna  1.    We're  going 
to  fly  nominal  Flight  Plan  the  rest  of  this  - 
tonight,  and  then  all  this  update  I'm  talking  about 
is  for  tomorrow  morning  at  l80:15. 

CMP  Ah  ha!    Outstanding.    I  figured  you  should  t;ome  to 

that  real  good  conclusion. 

CC  Yes,  we  think  so,  too  -  - 

CMP  Okay.  ...  

CC  -  -  Boy,  you  should  have  seen  the  Flight  Plan 

changes  we  would  have  had. 


Tape  llOB/5 


CMP  (Laugfiter)    I  can  imagine  them. 

CMP  Over  there;  okay. 

CC  Say  again,  Ron;  I  cut  you  out. 

CMP  I  was  just  going  to  say  that  -  running  Volume  3 

tomorrow  morning. 

CC  That's  right.    So  it   

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Yes ,  volume  3 . 

06  21  32  10    CMP  Okay.    At  -  Okay,  I've  got  volume  3  now. 

CC  Okay,  and  it's  at  l80:15;  l80:15  is  the  first  one. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  I  know  I  told  you  we  wouldn't  update  the 

ones  in  the  block,  but  the  very  first  one  is  inside 
the  block  so  you  -  where  it  says  "LOPC  target  load.." 
Just  cross  that  out  and  make  that  "Trim  target 
load." 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  And  below  the  update  block  -  the  next  block  -  as 

part  of  that  block,  add  "Trim  pads."    We'll  be 
coming  up  with  you  with  trim  pads. 

CMP  Okay. 

06  21  33  02    CC  Okay,  the  first  one  is  at  l80:20.    Add  "Poo,"  and 

below  it,  add  VERB  U9  maneuver  to  P52/trim  attitude." 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  put  a  note:    "Memeuver  will  take  Ik  minutes." 


CMP 

06  21  33  5^  CC 


Okay. 


Okay,  we're  going  to  give  you  the  high  gain  angle 
numbers  and  the  VERB  k9  maneuver  numbers  "tomorrow 
morning.    They'll  probably  change  on  latest  updates. 


Tape  llOB/6 


so  ve  won't  give  anything  for  the  -  You  can  J\ist 
put  three  "blanks  for  the  roll,  pitch,  and  yaw  there 
with  that  VERB  k9  maneuver.    Okay,  if  you  go  down 
the  page  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  You  go  down  the  page  to  180:27.    Delete  -  Cross  out 

"CMC  MODE,  FREE;  POO;  CMC  MODE,  AUTO;  LIMIT  CYCLE, 
ON;  ATTITUDE  DEAD  BAND,  MIN;  and  RATE,  LOW."  And 
delete  that  note  that  starts  "Do  not  stop  ORB  RATE 
early  (avoid  gimbal  lock  problems)"  over  there  right 
next  to  that.    Jxist  delete  all  that. 

CMP  Okay;  got  it. 

CC  OksQT,  on  the  next  column,  l80:U0,  delete  the 

VERB  1*9  maneuver. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay;  at  180:1*1;,  add  "UV  COVER,  CLOSED." 

CMP  "UV  COVER  CLOSED,"  l80:ltlt.  • 

CC  Roger.    And  at  l80:lt5,  if  you  can  fit  it  in  hetween 

the  Og  fuel  cell  purge  and  that,  add  the  following: 

"UV,  OFF;  IR,  OFF,  and  enable  all  Jets." 

06  21  35  1*6    CMP  Okay,  after  "IR  COVER,  CLOSE,"  we'll  put  "Turn  the 

UV,  OFF;  the  IR,  OFF";  and  then  enable  all  Jets 
before  the  fuel  cell  purge,  huh? 

CC  Well,  if  you  can  fit  It  in  there  wherever  it's 

convenient;  Roger, 

CMP  Okay. 

06  21  36  Ok    CC  Okay.    At  l80:58,  where  it  says  "Configure  DSE," 

change  "HIGH  BIT  RATE"  -  cross  it  out,  and  make  it 
"LOW  BIT  RATE." 

CMP  Okay;  LOW  BIT  RATE  instead  of  HIGH  BIT  RATE. 

CC  Okay,  at  -  over  on  the  next  page  at  l8l:15,  add 

the  following. 


Tape  llOB/T 


Okay. 

"Pre-SPS  burn  -  burn  sim  prep  cue  card."    Let  me 
read  that  again.     "Pre-SPS  burn  sim  prep  cue  card." 
Another  statement:     "Secure  equipment  for  trim/ 
LOPC." 

Okay.    At  l8l:15,  we'll  do  the  Pre-SPS  burn  sim 
prep  cue  card  and  secure  the  equipment  for  trim/ 
LOPC. 

Roger.    And  right  after  that,  put  "P30  -  P-30." 
Okay. 

Okay.    And  you  might  as  well  scratch  out  those  words 
where  it  says  "Eat  period"  on  that  line ,  and  down 
at  181 : 23,  add  "Fhl  -  PUl." 

Okay,  Pl+1. 

Okay.    At  l8l:33,  add  "Trim  burn  -  Trim  btirn." 
Okay,  trim  burn. 

Okay.    At  l8l:35,  add  the  following:     "VERB  U9 
msmeuver  to  LOPC  bvirn  pad  attitude." 

Ok^.    "VERB  U9  to  the  LOPC  burn  pad  attitude. 

Roger.    At  l8l:U3,  add  "Report  burn  status." 

Okay. 

Okay.    At  l82:15  on  the  next  page  -  182:15,  delete 
"Pre-SPS  burn  sim  prep  cue  card;  IR,  OFF;  UV,  OFF; 
enable  all  jets;  secure  equipment  for  LOPC."  De- 
lete all  those  because  you've  already  done  it. 

Okay. 

Okay.    At  l82:20,  delete  the  note  which  says  "PCM 
data  will  not  be  recorded  during  LOPC . "  Delete 
that  note. 


Okay. 


Tape  llOB/8 


06  21  39  58    CC  Okay.    And  then  the  last  -  - 

CMP  Is  that  -  - 

  one  is  Just  a  general  conment,  Ron.    As  you  can 

see,  ve're  cutting  into  yovir  eat  period,  and  you're 
going  to  he  awful  busy,  and  your  eat  period  is  very 
short.    So,  right  at  vakeup,  while  you're  working, 
you  might  he  considering  getting  eat  things  ready 
to  go  up  with  -  ready  to  eat.    You  know.  Just  as 
you're  doing  you  post sleep  check  and  that,  you 
might  be  getting  some  food  out.    You're  going  to  be 
busier  than  the  proverbial  one-armed  paperhanger 
there • 


CMP  Okay.    That's  probably  a  good  idea  (chuckle). 

CC  And  we  wanted  that  up  to  you  so  that  you  might  get 

a  chance  to  look  at  it  this  evening  or  the  rest  of 
this  rev  and  make  some  thoiights  or  pull  your  thoughts 
together  on  that  bum  in  the  morning  and  see  if 
we've  covered  all  bets. 

06  21  kO  57    CMP  Okay.     So  far  it  looks  pretty  good  here.    We'll  have 

some  different  high  gain  angles  there  at  l8l:00. 
And  you're  going  to  give  those  up  anyhow. 

CC  Okay,  at  l8l:00   

CMP  You  can  send  those  up  with  the  -  well,  for  the  next 

AOS  there. 

CC  Yes.    We  see  that.    Okay,    We'll  have  to  be  calling 

that  up  to  you  tomorrow  as  you  go  around,  I  guess. 

CMP  Oh,  won't  that  -  well,  that'll  be  the  sane,  because 

the  LOPC  burn  attitude  shotild  be  the  same  as 
nominal. 


CC  Yes.  Roger. 

CMP  Or  about. 

CC  Yes;  you're  right. 

CMP  Okay,  so  it's  all  right.    I'm  sorry. 


Tape  llOB/9 


CC  Ron,  just  to  make  sure.     You  understood  the  reason 

why  we  have  to  do  this  trim  burn  or  ham  burn  or 
whatever  you  want  to  call  it? 

06  21  k2  11    CMP  Yes.    As  I  understand,  the  mascons  didn't  work  the 

way  we  thought  they  would. 

CC  That's  about  the  size  of  it. 

CMP  It  didn't  get  down  into  a  circular  orbit.  Let's 

see.    Just  glancing  through  here,  it  looks  to  me 
like  we're  going  to  do  the  trim  burn  and  the  LOPC 
REFSMMAT,  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And,  Ron,  just  -  I  think  you  realize  it,  but  all  this 

has  been  checked  out  in  the  CMS  down  at  the  Cape 
already,  and  it's  all  been  run.    And  there's  no 
gimbal  lock  problem  as  far  as  we  know. 

CMP  Hey,  outstanding.     Okay;  good. 

CMP  Yes.    Those  guys  in  the  CMS  down  there  do  good 

work . 

CC  Roger. 

06  21  k6  17    CMP  You  know  that  crater  -  that  circle  next  to 

D-Caldera  -  has  a  lot  of  blocks  -  blocks  -  blocky 
material  lajring  around  it.    That  -  little  bit  of 
a  terrace  that  I  could  just  barely  see  on  the  west 
side  of  -  western  rim  -  down  inside  the  western 
rim. 

CC  Got  you.    I  didn't  think  you  were  going  to  be  able 

to  see  anything  with  the  attitude.     I'm  svirprised 
you  can  see  anything  at  all. 

06  21  kl  09    CMP  Yes.     I  was,  too.     I  just  happened  to  look  out, 

and  there  it  was. 

CC  Just  talked  to  El  Lago  a  few  minutes  ago,  Ron,  and 

all  the  neighbors  are  out  -  are  at  your  hojr.e  around 
the  squawk  box,  listening.     And  Jan  said  to  teil  you 


Tape  llOB/10. 


that  Jaime  and  Jon  will  be  out  here  at  -  with  iis 
tomorrov.  We're  going  to  all  -  They're  going  to 
watch  the  hurn  from  here  -  the  LOPC  and  the  trim 
hurn. 


CMP  Oh,  hey,  good  deall    Yes,  I've  got  some  real  fine 

neighbors  down  there,  I'll  tell  you  that. 

06  21  i+8  59    CMP  You  know,  I  look  at  that  D-Caldera  from  a  distance  - 

I  can  still  see  it  in  the  binocs  -  and  I  keep 
tiying  to  look  for  some  hint  of  a  topographic 
expression,  a  topographic  rise  surrounding  D-Caldera. 
And  I  can't  see  a  hint  of  a  shadow,  difference  in 
the  color,  or  anything.    It's  just  flat  out  in  the 
middle  of  a  flat  plain,  and  it's  a  D-shaped  de- 
pression that's  slumped  down.    There's  no  rise 
around  the  rims  -  or  anything. 

CC  Roger.    Got  you.    Must  be  frustrating,  because  it's 

supposed  to  have  some  type  of  topographical  ex- 
pression, hvh'2 

CMP  Yes;  right.    You  know,  it's  supposed  to  have  some- 

thing.   But  it  looks  like  it  just  fell  right  out 
of  the  flat  plain,  you  know.     It  took  part  of  the  - 
took  part  of  the  plain  with  it ,  because  there  are 
these  bubble-looking  things  down  in  D-Caldera. 

06  21  51  06    CMP  How  many  frames  in  the  next  Nikon  mag  do  I  have  to 

diddle  with? 


CC  Okay,  we're  running  that  one  through  FAO  here. 

Stand  by  a  moment,  Ron,  on  that. 


CMP  Okay. 

06  21  53  23    CMP  For  the  ejecta  pattern  of  Eratosthenes,  you  can 

just  see  it  looking  back  into  the  Sun  now,  and  the 
terminator  is  right  -  right  in  the  middle  of 
Eratosthenes  now.    And  you  can  sure  see  the  classic 
impact  ejecta  pattern  around  it.    It  goes  out  for  - 
you  know,  almost  two  crater  diameters  as  we  can 
see  the  topographic  expression.    You  can  see  the 
scalloping  or  sco\iring  as  it's  gone  back  across 
there,  due  to  the  shado-vra  that  are  created  in  ohe 
low  Sun  angle . 


Tape  llOB/11 


06  21  5^^  07    CC  Ron,  at  your  convenience,  we  would  like       TAMS  1, 


06  21  5^  20  CMP 


2,  and  3  FAKs,  OFF.  H  TMKS  1,  2,  and  3  FANS  to 
OFF. 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  turn  off  all  the  H  FANS. 
There's  3,  2,  and  1,  are  all  OFF. 


CC  Good  show. 

CMP  I  took  a  bath  last  night.    I  think  I'll  try  to 

shave  tonight.    Starting  to  itch  underneath  this 
helmet . 

CC  Roger. 

CC  You  mean  you're  not  going  to  come  home  with  a 

beard,  huh? 

CMP  Well,  Jon  wanted  me  to,  but  I  can't  seem  to  get  past 

the  itching  stage. 

CC  Just  be  comfortable .    Just  be  comfortable .     You  got 

another  week  to  go . 

CMP  (Laughter)    I  know  it.    I've  already  shaved  once. 

And  when  you  -  when  you  start  to  shave,  you  can 
only  -  you  can  only  put  that  brushless  shaving 
cream  on  -  oh,  maybe  a  third  -  a  third  of  your  face 
and  start  hacking  on  it  there  because  it  dried  out 
real  quick.    So  you  put  on  a  little  bit,  then  scrape 
it  off  with  a  razor,  then  get  some  more  on  and  then 
scrape  it  off. 

CC  Roger . 

06  21  57  10    CC  Okay,  Ron,  FAO's  data  says  that  on  miagazine  Yankee 

Yankee,  we  have  20  unscheduled  frames  that  you  can 
use  prior  to  the  scheduled  photography.    After  the 
scheduled  photography,  anything  that's  left  will 
also  be  yours. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    Yankee  Yankee  must  be  the  next  one  up 

then.     I  can  change  -  put  that  in,  hiih? 

CC  That's  affirm,  Ron.    You  can  go  ahead  and  put  it 

in  and  shoot  20  and  then  you  have  to  hold  the  rest 
for  the  scheduled  photography. 


Tape  llOB/12 


CMP  Okay,  will  do. 

CC  I  can  see  your  thoughts  there,  Ron.    You're  going 

to  get  those  20  shot  up  before  Jack  ever  gets  up 
there,  huh? 

06  21  58  03    CWP  (Laughter)    Oh,  that  is  a  good  thought.    No,  it's 

just  that  every  once  in  a  while  at  these  termina- 
tors, you  know,  you  -  you  have  some  real  good  shots, 
and  we  just  can't  schedule  them,  you  know,  all  the 
time,  because  sometimes  you  can't  do  it.    But  you 
take  one  or  two  shots  of  each  terminator  when  it 
comes  by,  you  get  some  real  good  pictures. 

CC  Roger.    We  understand. 

06  22  00  37    CMP  (Humming) 

06  22  Ok  51    CMP  Okay,  magazine  Yankee  Yankee  is  in  the  Nikon  - 

finally. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  I  think  I  mentioned  here  the  other  night,  didn't 

I,  putting  that  magazine  in  there  -  you  know,  it's 
a  real  critical  ti^t  fit .    And  you  get  it  pushed 
in  there  just  right,  and  then  in  zero  g,  the  thing 
bomces  back  out  of  the  way,  you  know  -  before  you 
can  get  the  back  on  there. 

CC  Roger.    You  don't  think   

CMP  Good  camera,  though. 

-  -  Nikon  was  designed  for  zero  gravity,  huh? 


CC 
CMP 


CMP 


(Laughter)    Ko,  it  works  great.     Sure  something 
to  be  seiid  about  a  removable  magazine  cassette 
though . 


CC  Roger. 


But  then  again,  you  can  focus  the  Nikon, 


CC  Roger. 
06  22  lit  27    CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America. 


Tape  llOB/13 


CC  Okay,  Ron.    We're  here. 

CMP  Okay.    I  was  looking  over  this  transfer  list  -  about 

l8U;00,  and  I  don't  remember  Gene  and  Jack  leaving 
their  helmet  stowage  tags  back  to  me.    So  I  think 
they  must  have  them  in  the  LM  -  in  Challenger. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  make  a  note  of  that  and  check  it  out 

tonight . 

CMP  Okay. 

06  22  18  07    CMP  Well,  let's  see,  probably  about  time  to  P20  here. 

Plus-X  forward,  SIM  bay  attitude;  2  EHTER  ENTER, 
plus  5  EHTER  -  ...  -  okay,  PROCEED.     Noun  78  - 
Well,  that's  already  loaded.     52.25;  plus  X  is 
180 ;  okay?    Except  we're  going  to  do  -  half  degree 
dead  band  2  ENTER  -  2-1/2  degree  dead  band,  I  mean. 
Plus  2.50,     ...  number  50  is  the  Moon.     And  right 
now,  we'd  like  to  orbrate  around  the  Moon.     ...  - 
2  -  ... 

06  22  20  39    CC  Hey,  Ron,  do  you  have  your  volxjme  3  handy? 

CMP  Yes ,  as  a  matter  of  fact . 

CC  Your  last  call  about  the  helmet  stowage  bags. 

Where  -  whereabouts  in  volume  3  is  that? 

CMP  At  l81t  -  about  19. 

CMP  Took  - 

CC  Okay,  we  got  it.    Thank  you. 

CMP  They  got  suited  and  took  their  helmets  and  gloves 

with  them  over  in  the  LM  -  took  their  helmets  and 
gloves  with  them  over  to  LM,  and  they  said  they 
were  going  to  send  the  back.    But  I  don't  think 
they  ever  did.     We  all  got  busy,  and  so  they've 
still  got  them  over  there  somewhere. 

06  22  2k  30    CC  Ron,  we're  going  to  lose  you  in  about  1  minute,  and 

you're  looking  great.     No  problems  at  all. 


CMP 


Okay,  we'll  see  you  on  the  other  side  there.  Bob. 
Thank  you. 


Tape  HOB/lk 


CC  Roger,  Ron.    And  at  l69:51  or  thereabouts,  we'll 

see  you. 

CMP  Okay, 

CC  And  you'll  be  eating,  wo  we  won't  call  you.  But 

we'll  be  stsmding  by. 

06  22  2k  55    CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  lllA/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

06  20  57  01    CC  Okay.    And,  Jack   

LMP  (Laughter) 

CC  -  -  When  you're  not  holding  on  with  two  bands, 

we'd  like  the  frame  count  from  you. 

LMP-EVA  Wait  a  minute .     Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Is  that  Van  Serg  over  there? 

LMP-EVA  Ahhhli  - 

CC  You  have  a  bearing  of  23^  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I  think  it's  -  - 

CC  -  -  and  a  range  of  2.1. 

LMP-LM  I  don't  know  -  no  -  it's  -  Okay. 

06  20  57  27    LMP-EVA  We  got  to  get  around  SWP  here  and  then   

CDR-EVA  Well,  let's  -  yes. 

LMP-EVA  -  -  and  then  head  on  more  westerly.    LMP  frame  is 
at  80. 

CC  Copy  80. 

LMP-EVA  SWP  or  Bowen,  I  mean  -  Bowen,  I  guess  it  is. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  yes. 

LMP-EVA  That's  SWP  over  there.     Bowen  is  out  here  ahead 
of  us . 

CDR-EVA  Yes .     ...  he  said  two  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Bowen  -  Bowen  isn't  much  of  a  crater  on  the  map. 

CDR-EVA    225  -  What  did  you  say.  Bob?    225  what? 

CC  23ii/2.1  -  - 


Tape  lllA/2 


IJ<P-EVA    23k  -  ~ 

CC  Heading  ought  to  be  about  2h0;  2k0  for  a  heading 

for  there. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  hear  him?    I  didn't  hear  him. 
LMP-EVA    2k0.    Are  you  not  reading  him? 

CDR-EVA    But  vhat  did  he  say  for  bearing  and  range?  That's 
what  I'm  interested  in. 

CC  23k  -  - 

LMP-LM     2k0.    State  bearing  and  range.  Bob. 

CC  -  -  2.1. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  got  that. 

CC  Okay.    And  we  think  you're  even  farther  north  than 

I  was  saying.    Maybe  it's  about  215  would  be  your 
heading  for  there, 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I'll  find  it.  23U/2.1. 
CC  Roger, 

LMP-EVA    And  all  the  big  blocks  still  look  like  subfloor 
from  the  Rover.     But  big  blocks  in  here  are  only 
about  a  -  a  third  of  a  meter  in  diameter.  And 
they're  subrounded  to  subangular.    Okay.  We're 
up  on  the  plains  again  now,  just  off  the  brink 
and  slope. 

06  20  59  k8    LMP-EVA    That  sure  looks  like  -  looks  like  outcrop  ... 

down  in  the  East  Massif  on  the  lower  slopes,  if 
it's  here  the  high  albedo  is.  Doesn't  it?  See 
it  over  there? 

CDR-EVA    Yes  -  Yes.     Yes.     It  does  -  ...  was  one  of  my 
guidelines  for  the  geophone  deployment  -  . . , 
points . 

06  21  00  21    CDR-E-/A    There's  some  more  of  the  blue-gray  rock  here  in 

the  east  end  of  the  South  Massif  down  low. 


Tape  lllA/3 


LMP-EVA    Yes.    It  looks  like  it  might  have  been  a  slump 
block  or  something. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    You  can  see  it's  blue-gray  because  of  it's 
contrast  with  the  light  mantle. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    It  might  be  a  slump  block,  or  something  -  like 
that . 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  I'm  going  to  go  to  the  left. 

LMP-EVA    You  going  to  go  soon?     (Laughter)    Need  23^   

CDR-EVA    No,  Wo.     I'm  going  over  here.    This  is  closer. 
That ' s  a  shorter  cut . 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  that  -  that's  probably  Bowen  there,  don't 
you  think? 

CDR-EVA    I  think   

LMP-EVA    Oh,  well   

CDR-EVA    Well,  see,  we  never  got  too  far   

CC  How  about  a  -  how  about  a  range  and  bearing, 

guys  . 

LMP-EVA    aren't  very  far  from  SWP. 

CDR-EVA    Maybe  we  got  too  far  east.     Okay.     It's  228/3-^. 

And  we're  moving  along  at  10  to  12  clicks.  That's 
all  it'll  hack. 

CC  Copy  that.     How  about  an  amps  reading?    We  haven't 

had  one  of  those  for  a  couple  of  ... 

LMP-EVA    Starting  to  rain  again.     Got  a  crater  ahead  of 
you, 

CDR-EVA    Oooh,  boy. 

LMP-EVA    Down-Sun  isn't  much  easier  than  up-Sun. 

CDR-EVA    It's  Just  easier  on  the  eyes.     You  just  can't  see 
any  more,  that's  ail.     You  don't  have  that  static, 
huh? 


Tape  lllA/lt 


LMP-EVA    No.    Hope  you've  still  got  an  antenna;  I  haven't 
looked  recently. 

CDR-EVA    Hope  there's  no  holes  in  the  high  gain. 
LMP-EVA    Might  have  hit  it  on  a  rock. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  boy.    Okay.    The  -  we're  back  into  the  mantle 
area  population  of  fragments  is  still  1  percent 
or  so.    The  crater  off  to  our  left,  which  is  at 
227  and  3.     -  What  is  that? 

LMP-EVA  3.1. 

CDR-EVA  3? 

LMP-EVA    3.3;  227/3.3. 

CDR-EVA  ■  -  is  a  fairly  good-sized  depression,  but  it's 
completely  mantled.    There's  no  blocks  showing 
in  the  wall  at  all.    How  do  you  read.  Bob? 


CC 


Loud  and  clear.     We're  listening. 


06  21  02  38    LMP-EVA    Now  there's  that  crater  in  the  wall  of  that  de- 
pression or  hollow  near  it.    And  it  has  one  big 
block  in  the  side  as  if  it  penetrated  the  mantle 
and  exposed  some  of  the  wall  of  the  depression. 
Just  about  a  30-meter  crater.    Valley  of  Taurus- 
Littrow  is  not  plsinar. 

CDR-EVA    Ho,  it  isn't. 

LMP-EVA    I'm  glad  we  changed  it  to  a  subfloor  instead  of  a 
plains  unit. 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

06  21  03  21    LMP-EVA    Okay.    We're  in  the  inner  wall  of  the  depression 

here,  and  the  rocks  still  look  like  subfloor 
gabbro.    Boy,  there's  certainly  not  much  variety. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Generally,  there  are  few  exotics. 

CDR-EVA    Ooh,  now  that's  got  to  be  Cochise. 

LMP-EVA    Ah,  look  at  Cochise. 


Tape  lllA/5 


CDR-EVA    That's  Cochise. 

CC  Roger.    We  think  you're  coming  up  on  Cochise. 

CDR-EVA    Get  your  self  a  couple  pictures  while  you're  look- 
ing right  at  it. 

LMP-EVA    Could  you  swing  right.     Swing  right. 

CDR-LM     Boh,  we  are  on  the  south  -  or  northeastern  rim 

of  Cochise.     I'm  going  to  work  my  way  around  the 
other  side.    And  Bob  -  - 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  looking  at  the  western  wall  of  Cochise,  I  can 
see  a  contact  within  the  suhfloor  between  albedo 
units,  one  of  which  is  a  light  tan-gray  and  the 
other  is  a  light  blue-gray.    May  reflect  the  two 
kinds  of  subfloor  gabbro  we've  already  sampled. 
Vesicular  and  nonvesicular.    And  that  contact 
that  looked  like  it  was  dipping  -  apparent  dip 
in  the  wall  -  was  to  the  north.    And  the  west 
wall  dipping  to  the  north  about  20  degrees . 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.     What  -  which  one's  on  top? 

Can  you  tell? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    The  blue-gray's  on  top.    I'm  sorry. 

CC  Thank  you.     And  you  got  a  bearing  and  range  there 

at  the  rim  of  Cochise? 

CDR-EVA    I  took  a  picture  of  it  and  -  Okay.    We're  at 

228/3.0,  and  we're  not  -  we're  headed  south  and 
not  quite  on  the  -  on  the  east  rim. 

CC  All  right. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  give  you  a  hack  at  the  east  rim. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  got  a  -  a  picture  of  that  contact  so,  I  - 
I  was  - 


LMP-EVA 


I  took  some  pictures  right  into  Cochise,  too, 
when  we  were  coming  up. 


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CDR-EVA    Good.     It'll  show  on  yours,  too,  proTjably  -  I  hope. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    We're  sort  of  on  the  inner  - 
LMP-EVA    Quicki  give  them  a  mark. 
06  21  05  39    CDR-EVA    MARK,     230/2.9-    We're  on  the  east  rim. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  sort  of  inside  the  east  rim  a  little 
hit. 

CC  Well,  don't  get  too  far  inside. 

CDR-EVA    We're  halfway  between  the  rim  and  where  the  hlocky 
wall  starts. 

CC  All  right.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Did  you  get  that,  Boh? 

CC  Yes.    We  got  that. 

LMP-EVA    Cochise  is  much  like  Horatio  and  -  actually,  more 
like  Camelot,  although  not  as  hlocky  in  the  walls, 
in  general,  in  that  it  -  it  has  blocky  walls  hut 
a  mantled  rim.    Again,  all  the  blocks  I  see  in  here 
are  big  ones .    And  blocks  down  to  about  20  centi- 
meters are  subangular,  in  general,  and  appear  to 
be  the  -  have  the  appearance  of  the  subfloor  gabbro, 
although  most  of  the  smaller  rocks  are  not  -  do 
not  appear  to  be  highly  vesicular. 

CC  All  right.    We're  copying  that  all. 

06  21  07  05    CDR-EVA  We're  at  232  and  2.7. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA  Watch  it. 

CDR-EVA  You  know  why  -  what  happened  there? 

LMP-EVA  What? 


CDR-EVA 


I  was  just  about  to  take  a  picture,  and  the  min- 
ute you  take  your  eye  off  anything  - 


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LMP-E^/A    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Yes .     I  got  another  view  of  that  contact ,  and 

let's  put  that  -  let's  put  that  on  the  northwest 
wall  of  Cochise  and  dipping  to  the  southeast . 

LMP-EVA    All  right.    South  and  east  is  to  our  left. 

CDR-EVA  No,  no,  no,  no,  no.  Put  it  on  the  northwest  wall 
dipping  to  the  northeast. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's  right.    See  that,  Geno,  can  you  see 
that  over  there? 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  yes.    I  can  see  it  now  between  the  gray  and 
hlue-gray? 

IJ4P-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  yes.    Yes,  I  sure  do. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  swing  in  there,  suid  let  me  get  another 
shot  of'  it? 

CDR-EVA    You  hetcha. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  this  is  a  good  view  right  here.    Okay  now,  I 
need  to  have  you  go  left. 

CDR-EVA    Ok^.    I  got  two  of  them  in  there,  too. 

LMP-EVA    Great . 

CDR-EVA  Look  at  that  rock  right  in  front  of  us .  It  looks 
like  a  contact  between  a  blue  and  a  gray. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes,  there  it  is.    Yes,  you're  right. 

CDR-EVA    We  can't  get  down  to  it,  but  take  a  picture. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I  think  we've  done  -  I  think  we've  got  tliat 
relationship.  I  think  we  got  it  at  station  1,  as 
a  matter  of  fact . 

CDR-EVA    But  that's  a  big  beautiful  boulder  on  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  that's   


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CDR-EVA    Inner  rim   

LMP-EVA  -  -  that's  ...  a  block. 

CDR-EVA    inner  south  rim  of  Cochise. 

IjMP-EVA  Oooh  

CDR-EVA  It's  a  single  block. 

IjMP-EVA  That's  how  you  bend  your  tires. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  that's  what  it's  for.    Oh,  that's  a  mou  - 
Oh,  man,  would  that  be  ...  

LMP-EVA    Well,  now,  that  might  be  glass  covered.    That  might 
be  a  glass  coating;  the  way  it  sort  of  hangs  on 
the  outside  there.    Hard  to  say. 

06  21  09  20    CDR-EVA    Okay,  we're  at  23h/2.3. 

LMP-EVA    Starting  to  sling  dust.     I  wonder  if  we've  lost 
our  fender. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    No,  they're  on  there  tight.     ...  -  - 

LMP-EVA    You  think  that's  Van  Serg?    Right  over  there. 


CDR-EVA    No . 


LMP-EVA    There  it  is.    Bet  you. 

06  21  09  37    CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  think  you're  right,  because  that's  just 

about  the  right  place.    Let's  see,  22k  -  okay,  is 
where  -  and  2.1  is  where  we  want  to  go,  and  I'm 
at  230/2.5. 


LMP-EVA    Okay,  our   

CDR-EVA    Pretty  close. 


LMP-EVA  Our  block  population  in  -  here  now  on  tlie  south 

rim  of  Cochise  and  it's  -  and  up  ahead  of  us  looks 
like  it's  up  to  5  percent.    And  it's  -  all  looks 
like  subfloor  -  light  to  tan  subfloor  gabbro  -  or 
tan-gray.    You  don't  see  much  blue-gray;  not  out 
on  here. 


Tape  lllA/9 


LMP-EVA    There's  a  recent  hit. 

CDR-EVA    This  Rover  is  getting  tested  for  what  it  was  built 
for  now. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    I  tell  you  it  handles  just  the  way  as  advertised, 
maybe  even  better. 

CC  Okay.    We  think  you  guys  are  getting  to  the  point 

we  ougjht  to  swing  a  little  bit  west  to  make  that 
23^^/2.1. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  am.  Bob. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we  -  We've  got  it.  Tallyho. 

CDR-EVA    Bob  -  Bob.    That's  my  fix.     I'm  just  navigating 
to  it. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  know  where.     I'll  get  there. 

CC  Roger . 

LMP-EVA    We  have  a  Tallyho  on  Shorty  -  I  mean  of  Van  Serg. 
How  about  through  there,  Geno.  Thanks. 

CC  Let's  not  prejudge  the  crater  too  much. 

CDR-EVA    You  want  231+/2.1.  Okay. 

CC  And  remember  we  tsQ-ked  about  parking  on  the  south- 

east rim. 

CDR-EVA    It  wanders  like  our  wander  factor  in  here  has  got 
to  be  50  percent . 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  you're  cut  -  you're  being  cut  out.     I  can't 
tell  what  you're  saying.     Isn't  that  where  we 
want  to  go,  over  there? 

CDR-EVA    23  -  Well,  - 


Tape  lllA/10 


LMP-EVA 


Well,  -  look, 


vay  to  get   


CDR-EVA 


-  -  ...  found  the  crater. 


CC 


23h  or  232  -  - 


LMP-EVA    No,  ve  didn't  ...  there  on  the  right. 

 I't  doesn't  make  much  difference,  17.     If  you 

see  Van  Serg,  that's  what  we  want. 

CDE-EVA    Well,  you're  -  Let  me  wander  over  that  way. 

That's  where  I  want  to  get,  but  I  couldn't  go 
there  because  of  that  - 

LMP-EVA    There's  a  different  looking  rock  there. 


And  remember,  we're  talking  about  parking  on  the 
southeast  rim. 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  think  you're  going  to  have  to  bear  right. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That's  why  I  -  I 've  got  to  get  throiigh  this 
field,  though. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  know  (laughter). 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    We're  still  primarily  in  an  extreme 


block  field  here  now.     It's  up  to  a  20  percent 
cover,  and  -  of  fragments  mostly  the  subfloor. 
Some  of  it  looks  quite  highly  shattered.    There's  - 
I  Just  saw  one  piece  that  looked  like  a  white 
anorthositic  rock. 


CDR-EVA    How's  this  look  to  you?    We  can  go  farther  up 
there,  I  guess.    Let  me  go  farther  up. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  okay,  if  you  can  get  up. 

CDR-EVA    Get  a  little  farther  on  the  southeast. 

LMP-EVA    A  little  higher  is  apt  to  overdo  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    There  are  -  there  is  some  -  some  grayish  rocks 
that  are  -  - 


Tape  lllA/11 

CDR-EVA    Oops!     I  centered.     Right,  coming  up  here.     I  turn 
to  the  right  and  park  right  here. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  That  have  a  -  somewhat  of  a  swirl  texture. 

06  21  13  10    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Boh,  we're  at  230/2.2. 

CC  Copy  that.    Copy  you  parked. 

CDR-EVA    Yes .    What  did  I  say?    230  on  that?    Yes ,  bearing 
is  230/2.2,  and  I'm  parked  on  a  heading  of  320, 
which  gives  you  a  "better  view. 

CC  Copy  320  for  the  parking. 

CDR-EVA    Yes ,  3  -  330 . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  boy.    This  is  getting  harder  and  harder.  Got 

it  ...  also.  Don't  know  what's  wrong  with  it,  now. 
I  mi^t  have  got  it  twisted. 

CDR-EVA    Here,  let  me  look  at  it. 

LMP-EVA    Got  it  hooked,  but  not  so  I  can  get  it  undone. 

CDR-EVA    Here  let  me  look  at  it,     I'd  say  stay  put,  but 
I  don't  think  you  have  any  choice. 

LMP-EVA    That  fender  Just  curled  under,  that's  where  we're 
getting  the  dust  -  starting  to  warp . 

CDR-EVA    Look  at  those  other  fenders,  talk  about  warping. 

LMP-EVA    Did  I  get  it  twisted  or  something? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  you  did  twist  it  when  you  put  it  on.  Okay, 
squanch  down. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  squanched. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Had  one  twist  in  it. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  that  makes  a  difference. 

CDR-EVA  Sure  does .    Here .    Your  f ootpan ' s  down ,  too . 


Tape  lllA/12 


IJ4P-EVA    I'll  get  it.    It's  lost  it's  stiffness  in  there. 

Okay  -  oke^,  I  guess  now  I'll  plan  for  Shorty, 
huh?     . , .  Van  Serg . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  2  POWER'S  ON  - 

UIP-EVA    Van  Serg  looks  like  a  hlocky  rim  fresh  impact 
crater  right  now. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.    How  about  scuffing  your  feet 

and  seeing  if  it  looks  oreinge  underneath? 

DtP-EVA    Slight  differences  -  Don't  worry. 

CC  And,  Gene,  before  you  go  away,  we'd  like  the  rest 

of  the  Rover  readouts ,  like  batteries .  And  how 
about  a  SEP  temp  readout  before  one  of  you  guys 
leave  there? 

06  21  15  U5    CDR-EVA    Get  -  Can  you  get  that  on  that  side.  Jack? 
IMP-EVA    I  will. 
CDR-EVA    Should  have  TV. 

CC  Roger.    We  have  it,  and  I'm  svire  that  Ed  would  like 

a  good  dusting  Job  up  front. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  there's  so  much   

MP-EVA    I'll  dust  it  if  you  can't  read  it.    I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    dust.    I've  got  it. 

LMP-EVA    I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Just  over  the  gage.    It's  about  12  -  125  on 

the  SEP. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

U4P-EVA    Boy,  everything  is  really  bad  now.     The  fender 
warped. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  the  fender  cut  -  dug  under.    See  if  you  can 
straighten  it  out . 

CC  Okay,  and  leave  the  covers   


Tape  lllA/13 


CDR-EVA    Okay .    Amp  hours ,  82  and  80 .    Battery ,  122  and  off 
scale  lov.     Forwards  are  210,  2l|0;  Rears  are  225 
and  2  -  220. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    That's  Just  a  sample  of  the  kind  of  -  kind  of  dust 
we  would  have  got,  Jack,  if  we  hadn't  of  had  that 
fender  yesterday.    Fender's  almost  worn  out. 

LMP-EVA    Can  you  get  a  dusthrush,  and  let's  check  our 
camera. 

CDR-EVA    Stay  where  you  are,  and  I'll  give  you  a  zappareno 
wherever  you  are. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    That  it? 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  how  many  hags  do  I  have. 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know,  hut  I've  got  a  lot  of  dusting  to  do 
here. 

LMP-EVA    Do  you  have  a  lot  of  hags? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.     I  must  have  -  I've  got  four  of  them  is  all. 
LMP-EVA    I'd  "better  change  my  hag. 
CDR-EVA    Can't  even  read  the  Rover. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     I  have  an  empty  hag  on  me  now,  right,  a 
collection  bag? 

CDR-EVA    Empty . 

CC  Okay,  17  -  - 

LMP-EVA    Don't  know  how  much  time  do  we  have  here? 

CC  Okay,  IT.    We're  looking  at  a  nominal  station  9 

here.    You've  got  ahout  25  minutes  remaining. 


Tape  lllA/lU 


CDR-EVA    No  such  thing  as  a  nominal  station  anymore. 

CC  This  may  he  the  first  and  only  one  of  the  traverse . 

LMP-EVA    The  geology  von't  let  it  te  nominal.    Hey,  I've 
got  some  new  "bags.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    And  I  guess  I'm  pretty  good  on  film. 

CC  Okay.    And  you're  going  to  get  a  radial  sample 

here,  and  so  you  might  check  your  Rover  sample  bag 
supply. 

LMP-EVA    That's  right.     I  want  to  take  that. 

CC  And  you  might  -  and  you  might  give  me  frame  count 

or  check  it  to  make  sure  you're  okay. 

06  21  18  3I+    LMP-EVA  I  just  did,  and  it's  123. 

CC  Okay,  good  enough. 

CDR-EVA  How  do  you  vant  the  SEP  blankets? 

CC  Leave  them  closed,  please.  Gene   

CDR-EVA  Open  or  closed? 

CC  -  -  as  closed  as  they'll  get. 

LMP-EVA  CLOSED. 

CDR-EVA  ¥e  been  riding  with  this  thing  off? 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA  SEP? 

LMP-EVA  Yes,  it  shoiad  be  off, 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  it  is.    Doesn't  seem  like  it'd  get  much  data 
that  way.    Even  if  it's  hot. 


CC 


Yes,  but  it's  -  it's  automatic  -  - 


Tape  lllA/15 


CDE-EVA    I  guess  they're  worried  about  getting  it  so  hot 
it  -  - 

CC  It  shuts  itself  off  when  it  gets  above  108,  so  it's 

no  good  anyway. 

CDR-EVA    Are  you  kidding?    We're  -  oh,  boy. 

CC  We've  been  hoping  all  day  -  it's  been  off  all  day. 

We've  been  hoping  that  it  would  -  since  station  6  - 
We've  been  hoping  that  it  would  cool  down  so  that 
we  could  get  some  more  data,  but  it's  not, 
obviously. 

CDR-EVA    It's  not  going  to  malce  it.  Bob. 
CC  That's  obvious  by  now. 

CDR-EVA    That's  a  -  that's  a  shame. 

LMP-EVA    This  is  starting  to  look  like  a  geological  survey 
expedition.    The  vehicle's  are  all  covered  with 
d\ist . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  look  what's  in  there. 

06  21  20  16    CDR-EVA    I  don't  think  I  can  read  that  unless  I  dust  it  with 

a  lens  brush  -  Okay.    Get  wy  -  Okay,  can  I  get  by 
you  here? 

LMP-EVA    ySy  -  vay  bag  look  all  right  to  you. 
CDR-EVA    Yes,  it's  still  closed. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Okay.    What  are  we  going  to  do  here?  We're 
going  to  go  up  there  and  sample  on  the  rim,  look 
at  the  walls,  and  the  floor,  and  miscellaneous, 
and  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Well ,  we  are  on  the  rim  . . . 

LMP-EVA    -  -  then  you're  going  to  take  500  millimeters  when 
you  get  back  to  the  Rover  while  I  do  a  radial 
sample. 


CDR-EVA 


Okay. 


Tape  lllA/16 


LMP-EVA    But  the  big  -  the  first  thing  we  do  is  go  up  to 

the  crater.    Boh,  I  think  the  mantle  objective  here 
really  is  iinmaterial  and  -  because  the  -  there's  - 
the  bloeky  ejecta  around  the  crater  covers  -  oh, 
boy  -  Well,  it  looks  like  it  -  it  extends  several 
hundred  meters  out  from  the  rim  -  say  a  couple  of 
bundled  meters. 

CC  All  ri^t.    Copy  that,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA   We're  ^uite  a  vays  -  ve're  pretty  close  to  the 
rim. 

CC  Yes ,  we  csui  see  that . 

LMP-EVA    We're  pretty  close.    I'll  go  up  on  the  rim.  Gene, 
and  See  Vhat  we've  got. 

06  21  22  21    IJdP-EVA    Tiptoe  through  the  tulips  (singing)  -  - 

GG  Okay.    Let's  get  grabs  before  you  guys  leave. 

LMP-EVA    (Singing)    I'm  getting  it  right  now.    Let  me  see; 

anything  else  you  want  me  to  do  while  I 'm  here? 

CC  Negative . 

LMP-EVA    Sure  look  like  shocked  rocks  to  me. 

CDR-EVA    Lot  of  glass  splattered  on  some  of  these.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    We  mi^t  even  find  scaae  shatter  cones.  But 
don't  tell  anybody. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  say  one  thing  for  old  Van  Serg,  it's 
blocky .    Whoo ! 

06  21  23  22    CDR-EVA    MARK.  Gravimeter. 

CC  Copy  that. 

mP-EVA    Bob.    This  is  about  -  I  think  this  is  the  only 
clearly  -  well,  I  won't  even  say  that.    This  is 
at  least  a  blocky  -  a  leurge  blocky  rim  crater. 
But  even  it  has  the  mantle  dust  ma  -  material 


Tape  IIIA/IT 


covering  the  rim,  partially  ljuried  rocks.  And 
it's  down  on  the  floor,  as  near  as  I  can  tell,  and 
on  the  waJ-ls.    The  crater  itself  has  a  central 
mound  of  -  of  blocks  that's  prohably  50  meters  in 
diameter  -  that's  a  little  high  -  30  meters  in 
diameter.    It  -  Many  of  the  blocks  are  -  - 


CDE-EVA    Holy  Smoley! 

LMP-EVA    -  -  intensely  shattered  in  that  area,  as  the  ones 
that  are  on  the  walls.     I  don't  see  any  sign  of 
organization  of  the  blocks  in  the  walls  right  now. 
There's  a  possibility  that  on  the  west  wall,  there's 
an  indication  that  there's  slightly  darker  gray 
rocks  starting  about  halfway  down  the  crater.  And 
that's  -  that  level  is  coincident  with  what  appears 
to  be  a  bench  on  the  northwest  wall.     And  that 
bench  -  hints  of  that  bench  -  it's  not  continuous, 
but  hints  of  it  axe  aroxmd  on  the  north  wall  and, 
I  think,  rig^t  below  us  -  yes,  on  the  southeast 
wall.    The  -  We'll  start  -  The  rocks  are  pretty 
badly  broken  in  many  cases.    And  -  well,  I  haven't 
seen  any  real  glass  yet.    Yes.    We'll  start  looking 
at  them  a  little  more  carefully. 


CDR-EVA    Some  of  them  -  That  looks  like  a  breccia  right 
there  in  front  of  us. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    There's  some  interesting  patterns  on  the 
surface . 

LMP-EVA    Stand  by.    Wait,  wait,  wait.     I  keep  -  Aw!  Sorry, 
Geno,  but  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay? 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  there.    Afraid  I  haven't  been  doing  my  duty 
on  locators,  occasionally. 

LMP-EVA  Do  that? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     I  got  it. 

LMP-EVA  Okay,  Gene's  tearing  apart  one  of  the  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Here.    There  you  go. 


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LMP-EVA    very  intensely  fractured  rocks.     And  it  comes 

off  in  small  flakes.     Let's  get  this  one,  because 
this  will  be  the  best  oriented  one  for  documenta- 
tion, plus  why  don't  you  get  that  one  you've  got 
inside  there? 


CDR-EVA  Yes,  I  am. 
LMP-EVA    Grot  a  bag? 

06  21  27  lU    IMP-EVA    Bag  568  is  a  fragment  from  the  surface.    That's  a 

comer,  I  think,  off  the  block  that  Gene  documented 
here . 


CDR-EVA    Yes;  it  is. 


LMP-EVA    We'll  get  -  we'll  get  another  sample  -  that'll  be 
from  inside  the  block. 

CDR-EVA    Get  it  with  this  real  easy.    Here's  a  whole  big  - 
we  ought  to  take  that  just  as  is. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  put  it  -  put  it  in  your  -  put  a  bag  around 
if  we  -  around  one  end  if  we  can.    Here  the  other 
end  is  smaller. 


CDR-EVA    Yes .    Hold  this  -  - 


LMP-EVA    Let  me  hold  this  end.     Let  me  hold  it,  and  you  put 
the  bag  on. 

CDR-EVA  That's  breccia,  too.  That's   

LMP-EVA  Well,  it's  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Well,  see  that?    See  the  white  fragments  in  there? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.     It  certainly  -  - 

CDR-EVA  It's  got  a  lot  of  very  small   

LMP-EVA    It  -  it  looks  like  this  big  one  over  here.  You 
know,  it  might  be  that  the  -  these  are  -  might 
be  pieces  of  the  projectile.     I  don't  know.  Be- 
cause it  doesn't  look  like  -  it's  not  subfloor. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Pin  it  down. 


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LMP-EVA    Well,  that's  -wrapped  in  -  if  you  can  put  it  -  if 
you  put  it  end  dovm,  it  may  stay  in  the  bag. 

CDR-EVA    I  doubt  it. 

LMP-EVA    What's  the  numiber? 

06  21  28  U5    CDR-EVA    It's  a  I+80,  and  it's  a  -  a  relatively  tabular  [sic] 

shape ,  and  it ' s  about  -  - 

LMP-EVA    And  it's  going  to   

CDR-EVA    10  inches  long. 

LMP-EVA    And  it's  hi^ly  friable.    It  breaks  apart. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  not  so  much. 

LMP-EVA    In  smsill  chips.    Well,  you  caji  -  you  did  it  with 
your  hands  there .    I  csuLl  that  being  friable , 
compared  to  what  we've  seen  anyw^. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  and  let  me  get  in  after  of  that. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  get  a  -  soil  -  soil  right  over  here.  Okay. 

The  soil  next  to  the  boulder  down  about  3  centi- 
meters ,  is  in  bag  569- 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  the  soil  and  chips  -  about  two-thirds 
of  a  meter  from  the  boiilder  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Get  another  one? 

LMP-EVA    Yes  -  are  in  bag  570. 

CC  CoK''  that. 

LMP-EVA  Okay? 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  over  here.    You're  going  to  step  on 
yoior  gnomon  there. 

LMP-EVA    I  wouldn't  step  on  my  gnomon.    I'm  going  to  get 
this  one  -  crimped.    Okay.    There,  very  clearly, 
is  a  central,  moimd.    And  now  that  we've  looked  at 


Tape  lllA/20 


CDR-EVA 

UC-LM 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
UdP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

IJ«P-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
Lfff-EVA 
06  21  31  51  CDR-EVA 

CC 


this  one,  the  moun4  looks  like  it's  composed  of 
gr^  fragment  breccias  much  like  vhat  we've  just 
sampled  -  - 


-  -  dark  gray.  And  again  it  might  he  related  -  - 
Jack. 

Oh,  excuse  me.    I  didn't  hear  you. 

Related  to  the  projectile.    Now,  we've  got  to  see 
if  there  is  sub floor  up  here,  or  whether  we're 
dealing  with  another  unit  somewhere. 

got  your  after.    Okay.    I  don't  see  any  -  - 

Well ,  the  more  coherent  rocks     this  looks  like 
sub floor. 

I  don't  see  any  orange  material  either, 
Not  yet. 

This  particular  rock  we've  sampled  has  tabiilar 
fractures,  and  in  one-half  of  the  rock,  they  are 
definitely  oriented. 

Boy,  I'll  tell  you,  I  don't  -  There's  more  dust 
on  these  rocks.    It's  harder  to  see  a  fresh  sur- 
face.   They're  not  as  clean.    That's  subfloor. 

Hey,  and  even  the  floor  of  the  crater  is  mantled 
down  there. 

You  know,  that  seems  -  Yes.    That  seems  like  a  - 
vhat  you  got?    A  piece  of  glass? 

Yes,  I  think  it  is  glass.    At  least  it's  glass 
covered  -  just  glass  covered.    Houston,  I've  got 
an  undocumented  sample.    It's  about  2  meters  left 
of  where  we  just  ssBpled.     It's  a  glass-covered  - 
oh,  baseball-size  rock  in  571- 

Copy  that. 


Tape  lllA/21 


06  21  32  ik    LMP-EVA    A  lot  of  these  blocks  up  here,  Houston,  are  - 

pajrticularly  the  more  fractured  ones,  "but  even 
some  that  aren't  -  €ire  a  gray  matrix  fragment 
breccia.    And  it  looks  like  -  reeilly,  the  fragments 
are  quite  fine .    There  are  no  -  On  the  rim  anyvay , 
we  haven't  seen  any  large  fragments.    The  largest 
I've  seen  is  about  2  centimeters.    But  down  in  the 
mound  you  can  see  some  fragments  that  are  probably 
hsilf  a  meter  in  diameter. 


CDR-EVA    Jack,  are  you  going  aroiind  that  rim  of  the  crater 
up  there? 

LMP-EVA    I  was  Just  looking  at  rocks. 
CDR-EVA   Well,  okay. 
LMP-EVA    We  -  we  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  want  to  get  a  pan  before  we  leave  back  there. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  yes.    We  need  to  see  if  -  we  can  get  some  of  the 
subfloor.    I'm  not  sxuce  I  understand  what's  hap- 
pened here,  yet.    This  should  have  broijght  up 
subfloor  according  to  the  theory,  and  it  hasn't. 


CDR-EVA   That  looks  like  some  of  the  -  look  at  some  of  the 
breccias  -  the  blue  breccias  with  the  white  -  big 
old  slabby  white  -  with  the  fracture  face  with  the 
white  inclus  ions . 


LMP-EVA    Down  there. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  down  in  the  floor.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  has  that  appearance  all  right.    Hey,  Gene. 
Do  you  see  that  rock  -  - 


CDR-EVA    That's  a   

LMP-EVA    -  -  that  rock  that's  fractured  in  sort  of  a 

pyramid  shape  down  there?    Out  here  on  the  right  - 
the  right  end  of  -  of  the  floor  down  there  -  that 
big  one? 


CDR-EVA    Yes . 


LMP-EVA 


It's  sort  of  pointing  west. 


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CDR-EVA  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    It's  really  neat.    That's  a  unique  fracture,  isn't 
it? 

CC  Roger,  17   

LMP-EVA    And  there's  another  one  that's  fractured  almost 
in  a  . . .    -  - 

CC  -  -  And  we'd  like  to  be  moving  from  here  in  about 

10  minutes,  so  we  probably  better  be  trending  back 
toward  the  Rover,  unless  you're  seeing  something 
really  great  out  there . 

LMP-EVA    Well.    Hey,  Bob,  we  ought  to  -  we  ought  to  find 
out  whether  or  not  we  got  -  whether  -  what  the 
rock  is  here,  if  you've  got  a  little  time. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  do  you  want  me  to  put  this  in  your  bag  and 
start  -  I'm  sorry, 

CC  Roger.     You  got  -  you  got  10  minutes.     I'm  just 

telling  you  to  start  thinking  about  getting  back. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.     We're  always  thinking  that  way. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     One  thing  I  noticed  we  do  \incover. 

There's  a  lot  of  -  oh,  2-  3,  U-millimeter-size 
fragments  of  glass  we're  kicking  up  all  over  the 
place . 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Little  glass  balls. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  Gene? 

CDR-EVA  Almost  like  Pele's  - 

LMP-EVA  Gene? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  Can  you  come  over  here?     I  think  there's  some 

sub floor  here.    We  ought  to   


CDR-EVA 


Okay. 


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LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
IMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

06  21  35  ^5  LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


We  ougLt  to  try  to  docment  it.    But  I  tell  you, 
most  of  the  rocks  are  the  -  are  the  fine-fragment 
breccias .    Let  me  see  if  I  can't  get  one  of  those 
little  -  - 

There's  some  glass. 

Hey. 

You  see  if  they're  like  Pele's  -  - 
Okay. 

  ...  eyeballs  or  whatever  they  are . 

I  think  we  can  get  some  over  here.     If  you're  - 
if  you're  careful  coming  over  here,  we  can  get 
glass  that  looks  like  it  may  have  crystallized  in 
place  there. 

Okay.    I'm  talking  about  those  little  -  little 
balls ,  too .    See  that  -  - 

Whoo,  take  it  easy  -  Take  it  easy. 

Where  are  you?    Right  there? 

Yes,  but  put  yoTir  gnomon  right  over  here,  and 
we  can  get  that  for  glass  and  that  for  sub floor. 

Okay.     Let  me  - 

But  I'm  not  sure  that  is.    I  Just  -  It  may  be 
breccia  there  -  Everything  is  covered  with  dust 
here,  and  it's  hard  to  tell  the  types.    Most  of 
the  rocks  we're  seeing  are  breccias.    Make  sure 
that  glass  is  in  your  stereo . 

Okay,  be  careful  with  it. 

Oh,  shoot! 

I  don't  have  any  bags  so  - 

Okay,  the  glass  -  looks  like  a  glass  agglutinate. 
Oh,  no! 


Tape  111A/2U 


LMP-EVA    Didn't  break?    Good.     I  think  that  will  survive 
going  hack  now. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     It's  a  frothy  -  glass  agglutinate  is  going 
to  be  in  hag  U8l. 

CC  Copy  that. 

r^-EVA    And  -  ajid  it  looks  like  a  -  almost  like  a  cowpie  - 
pile- type  of  bomb.  Bob,  if  you'll  pardon  the 
expression. 


CC 


I  will.    I  don't  know  whether  anybody  else   


LMP-EVA    Although  it's  not  flattened.     It's  -  it's  -  it's 

a  -  it's  an  aggregate  of  glass  in  -  or  it's  a  pile 
of  about  four  fragments,  much  like  the  one  we're 
sampling. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  we  want  to  get  a  good  scoop  sample  here. 

Maybe  can  we  get  some  of  those  little  fine  pieces 
of  glass  around. 

06  21  37  19    LMP-EVA    And  it  looks  like  it's  -  it's  in  place  from  the 

day  it  was  born. 

CC  Copy  that, 

CDP.-EVA    Oh,  gol  dig  da!     I'm  having  a  hard  time  with  this 
one . 

LMP-EVA    A  piece  of  that  rock  right  behind  it. 
CDR-EVA    If  I  can  - 


LMP-EVA    Want  a  bag? 


CDH-EVA    Yes.     I'm  going  to  turn  around.    Just  not  going  to 
be  able  to  get  that  one  in  the  bag,  I  don't  think. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Houston,    r^y  sample's  in  -  482  is  a  rock, 

but  it  doesn't  look  like  sub floor.     It  looks  like 
the  blue-gray  material  we've  been  seeing  -  the 
breccia-type  material. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 


Tape  lllA/25 


LMP-EVA  I  don't  think  there's  difference. 

CDR-EVA  Got  it  in! 

LMP-EVA  Mi^t  Just  as  well  throw  them  in  my  bag. 

CC  Okay,  and  

CDR-EVA  I  want  a  scoop  out  of  here,  though.  Jack. 

CC  17,  why  don't  we  get  that  scoop  sample  as  the 

first  sample  of  Jack's  radial  sample,  17? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    That's  right.    You're  getting  a  radial 
sample.    That's  fine.    I  forgot  you  were  doing 
that . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  man. 

CDR-EVA    That's  all  right.  Jack.    That  won't  come  out.  Just 
put  it  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  boy. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Let's  let  that  one  be  the  last  - 
LMP-EVA    Here's  one. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  okay.    Those  are  the  last  ones  that  ycu  can 
take.    Got  a  lock? 

LMP-EVA    No,  I  don't  see  in  my  ...  on  that. 

06  21  39  ^6    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Okay,  before  you  go  back  -  I  got  to  go 

down  after  a  picture  here.    And  I  want  to  get  a 
pan  of  this  thing.    We  can  get  a  stereo  pan  -  as 
you  start  your  radial  sample. 

LMP-EVA    Yes .    Are  you  going  to  -  You  -  you  ta^e  the  after 
from  there,  and  I'll  go  over  here  and  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay.  You   

LMP-EVA    Well,  wait  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA    -  -  you  need  the  gnomon? 


Tape  lllA/26 


LMP-EVA    No . 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    I'm  going  to  go  over  behind  me  and  take  part 
of  the  stereo. 

LMP-EVA    Where  are  you  going  to  take  your  pan?    Let  me  see. 

CDR-EVA    From  -  from  behind  me,  where  we  were. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  think  I'll  Just  take  my  radial  right  from 
here  to  the  Rover. 

CDR-EVA    That's  great.    That's  great.    Just  do  that,  and 
then  you'll  be  right  back  at  the  Rover. 

IMP-EVA    And  I'll  take  ray  pan  from  here,  so  you  - 

CDR-EVA    Man,  there's  about  four  or  five  different  modes 
of  travel  out  here. 

06  21  k2  06    CDR-EVA    I  don't  believe  it. 

LMP-EVA  What? 

CDR-EVA    I  think  I'm  out  of  film. 
LMP-EVA    You're  out  of  film? 

CDR-EVA    150.    And  it  stopped  clicking.    Jack,  I  -  I  -  I 
didn't  get  the  rest  of  that  crater  down  there. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I  only  got  it  12  o'clock  and  around.    Well,  shucks. 

LMP-EVA    I  can  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  here's  where  I  - 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  going  to  be  out  of  film,  too,  here 
before  long. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Just  don't  worry  about  it  then.    Just  presu 
on  with  your  radials. 

LMP-EVA    I've  got  -  I  got  a  good  pan  over  here.    Did  you 
get  the  crater  at  all? 


Tape  111A/2T 


CDE-EVA    I  got  the  right  half  of  it  and  probably  two-thirds 
of  it,  so  we're  going  to  -  I'm  Just  going  to  have 
to  let  that  do.    Okay.     I'm  going  to  see  if  I  can 
get  some  500s  while  you're  doing  that. 

LMP-EVA  Hey,  this  isn't  going  to  be  an  ideal  -  radial 
sample  -  but  it  will  have  to  do.  Giddyapping 
over  hill  and  dale  (singing). 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  would  you  tell  me  what  your  primary  desires 
are  again  on  the  500 ,  based  upon  what  we  have? 

CC  Okay.    The  primary  desire  will  be  the  North  Massif, 

the  blocks,  and  the  trail. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And  while  you're  at  the  Rover,  they  want  you  to 

take  the  gravimeter  off  again,  ajid  we'll  get 
another  Rover  and  a  -  well  another  sxirface  measure- 
ment here,  as  well  -  to  check  against  the  Rover. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Here's  a  reading.    I  think  I  owe  you  one  of 
those ,  don ' t  I ? 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-EVA    6T0,  037,  801;  670,  037,  801. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  didn't  know  we  were  going  to  do  both  of  these 

things .    I  thought  we  were  going  to  do  one  or  the 
other.    But  -  if  we're  going  to  do  it,  we  might 
as  well  do  it  right. 

06  21  kh  56    CDR-EVA    MARK  it.    It's  flashing. 

liMP-EVA    Okay,  bag  -  stand  by  -  52  Yankee  is  at  the  rim 
crest , 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'll  tell  you  what  I'm  going  to  do.  I'm 
going  to  use  the  Rover  to  steady  the  500 ,  and 
see  what  happens . 


Tape  lllA/28 


IMP-EVA    Oh,  I  should  have  let  you  take  this  scoop  back. 

Oh,  no.  Oh,  me.  Well,  shoot!  This  isn't  working 
out  too  well.  Dr.  Parker. 

CC  Say  again  there.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    This  isn't  working  out  too  well.    I've  got  to  get 
rid  of  this  scoop. 

CDR-EVA    Just  set  it  there  and  take  your  sample.    We'll  get 
it . 

LMP-EVA    I'll  take  the  samples  going  "back. 

06  21  hi  1+6    LMP-EVA    Just  like  in  training,  the  scoop  doesn't  stay 

locked  to  the  . . . 


CC  Okay,  If.    We'd  like  you  to  press  on.    We'll  abort 

the  radial  sample.    We'd  like  to  leave  here  imme- 
diately. If  not  sooner,  to  head  for  station  10. 
Enough  of  the  500  millimeters.  Gene.    And  we'll 
give  you  some  information  here  on  mags.     We  need 
the  gravlmeter  put  back  on  the  Rover,  if  you  haven't 
already.    If  it's  on  the  ground,  we  didn't  get  the 
mark,  but  it's  probably  done  by  now.     And  we're 
going  to  take  the  DSEA  out  of  the  tape  recorder 
here,  and  we'd  like  to  get  that  all  done  pronto. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     85  is  the  mag  count  on  the  500. 

CC  Copy  85  on  the  500. 


LMP-EVA    I  think  that's  a  smart  move.  Bob.     I  don't  think  - 
I  don't  think  the  radial  sample's  going  to  tell 
you  much  here. 

CC  Okay.     Let's  take  a  - 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  under  _  I  _  i  _ 

CC  Co  ahead. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  you  ought  to  get  a  scoop  of  that  dirt, 
though. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  there's  one  scoop  -  - 

CDR-EVA  We  don't  have  a  scoop  of  it,  do  we? 


Tape  lllA/29 


LMP-EVA    Look  wiiat's  underneath  it. 

CDR-EVA   Well ,  I  don ' t  know  what ' s  underneath  it . 

LMP-EVA    It's  white. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  wanted  to  make  sure  we  got  some  of  those 
small  glass  balls . 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  we'll  get  a  scoop  of  it.    Upon  the  top. 

CC  17,  we're  aiixious  for  you  guys  to  get  going. 

06  21  h9  52    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Here's  your  gravimeter  reading  from  the 

surface;  670,  057,  101;  67O,  057,  101. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  want  me  to  change  my  mag  at  the  next  station? 

LMP-EVA    Come  here.  Gene,  quickly.    We  can't  -  we  can't 

leave  this ,  This  may  he  the  youngest  mantle  over  - 
whatever  was  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Take  pictures  of  it.    I  don't  have  any  film. 

LMP-EVA    -  -  v&s  thrown  out  of  the  craters. 

CDR-EVA    Take  pictiires  of  it.    Boh,  we've  got  to  take 
5  more  minutes.    We'll  "be  right  with  you. 

CDR-EVA    What  Jack's  done  is  he  dug  a  -  a  trench  in  a  -  the 
southwest-northeast  direction,  and  he  discovered 
about  3  inches  below  -  U  inches  below  the  surface 
-  a  very  ligjit-gray  material. 

LMP-EVA    Possibility  here  -  Careful,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Take  that  crust. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  trying  -  I'm  trying  to  get  the  -  the 
upper  portion  there.    There  we  go. 

06  21  51  Oh    LMP-EVA   The  first  2  centimeters,  bag  U83.    The  next  5  - 

Ahhh  -  in  U8U.  Augh! 


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CDR-EVA    Get  some? 

LMP-EVA    I  got  <iuite  a  bit . 

CDR-EVA    That's  enough, 

LMP-EVA    I  got  quite  a  bit.    Here,  you  got  to  put  that  away, 
don't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    And  the  next  10  centimeters  of  the  light-gray 

material,  be  in  -  probably  in  I486,  if  we're  lucky  - 
get  it  off. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    I  think  it  is  right? 
CDR-EVA    Yes.     U85 ! 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    What  did  I  say  U83,  hdhl  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    You  with  us  ,  Bob? 
CC  Roger.    We're  with  you. 

LMP-EVA    He's  mad  at  us  now. 
CG  How'd  you  guess? 

06  21  52  29    LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  third  sample  is  in  U85. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Whoops,  sorry.    Bob,  a  possibility  here  is 
that  the  -  this  upper  6  inches  of  gray  material 
in  here  is  the  latest  mantling  in  the  area  and  the 
light-colored  debris  may  be  what's  left  over  from 
the  impact, 

CC  Okay,  I  copy.    I  understand.    But  we'd  like  to  get 

you  going.    In  qase  you  didn't  get  the  clue. 

CDR-EVA    I  know.    We're  going.  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    All  right.    What  else?  Magazines. 


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CDR-EVA    No,  we'll  change  them  at  the  next  station.  Isn't 
that  right.  Boh? 

LMP-EVA    Ko,  I've  got  to  have  some.    I  got  to  get  some,  or 
I  can't  take  - 

CC  Okay,  17.    We  need  Jack  to  put  on  magazine  Nancy. 

And  we'd  like,  Gene,  for  you  to  pull  out  the  DSEA 
tape  recorder  at  this  station. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I  need  a  magazine  too.  Bob.     I  don't  have 
any  film  at  all. 

CC  Roger.    That'll  be  Bravo  if  you  change  yours  here. 

You  could  change  it  at  station  10. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  change  it  here.    It's  just  as  easy  while  we're 
in  there. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    You  want  Bravo,  huh? 

CDR-EVA    Bravo.     And  I'll  get  the  tape  -  I'll  get  the  DSEA. 
Bravo  was  outside  there,  I  thought. 

LMP-EVA    There  you  go.     Let  me  get  this  -  hold  it  one  - 
long  enough  for  me  to  get  this .    Then  I  can  get 
rid  of  this  all  at  one  time. 

CDR-EVA  Oh. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  that's  all  right. 

CDR-EVA  I  can't  put  that  back  in. 

LMP-EVA  Got  it? 

CDR-EVA  I  got  -  I  got  Bravo. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    I  got  that  one. 

CDR-EVA  We  lost  the  dark  slide  out  of  Bravo,  and  it's  in 
the  dirt.    I'm  not  going  to  pick  it  up. 

06  21  5U  23    CC  All  right.    Copy  that.    There's  no  point  in  putting 

it  back  in.     It  probably  wouldn't  go  in  anyway. 


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CDR-EVA    Well,  that's  dirty.     Okay.    I'm  changed.     And  I 
don't  know  what  the  mag  count  is,  hut  let  me  get 
the  DSEA.     If  this  thing  is  true  to  form,  I'm 
going  to  have  to  get  in  there  -  I  got  to  - 
tripped.    Well,  now  what's  -  Hey,  we  got  some 
rocks  in  that  hig  hag.    Okay-    We're  done  with  the 
SW.    DSEA  is  coming  out.    I  hope  there's  something 
on  it. 

06  21  55  1*5    CDR-EVA    Oh  -  Jiminy  Christmas  -  I  can't  even  pick  up  that 

big  bag  to  close  the  gate. 

CDR-EVA    I've  got  to  -  I've  got  to  trip  that  latch  with  - 
with  tongs  or  something  to  lock  it. 

CC  Okay.    And,  Jack;  Houston.  Over. 

LMP-EVA    Go  eiiead. 

CC  Okay,  we've   

LMP-EVA    Gto  ahead. 

CC  -  -  had  a  change  of  heart  here  again,  as  usual. 

And  we're  going  to  drop  station  10  now  that  we've 
heeurd  you  so  much,  and  we're  going  to  get  a  double 
core  here.    And  we'd  like  to  get  the  -  some 
football -size  rocks  while  you're  doing  that.  But 
double  core  here,  and  then  we're  going  to  leave 
here  and  go  back  to  the  JM, 

UiP-EVA    You  don't  want  a  -  You  don't  want  a  -  you  don't 
want  a  double  core  here.    I  don't  think  we  caji 
do  it.  Bob.    It's  too  rocky. 

CDR-EVA    You  don't  think  we'll  get  through  that  stuff  you 
Just  trenched? 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I'm  afraid  there  are  rocks  all  through  it. 
Gene.    We  can  try,  but  - 

CDR-EVA    Let's  try  it. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  don't  like  to  try  things  that  there  is 

a  probability  of  failure  on  -  if  you  can  -  You're 
Just  going  to  lose  some  time.     Okay,  mag  Nancy 
in  on  the  LMP's  camera. 


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Copy  that. 

Well,  this  is  -  you  can  see  the  rock  population 
here,  Houston.    But  we  can  try  it. 

Sure-    If  we  get  a  single,  we  get  a  single  out 
of  it. 

Oh,  you're  doing  it,  huh? 
I've  got  it  started. 

Well,  you're  not  even  -  okay.    Not  even  going  to 
debate  the  issue. 

No,  it  takes  too  much  time  debating  it. 

Well,  let's  see  how  much  time  it  takes.    I  hope 
you're  ri^t. 

Okay.    And  - 

Okay,  and  we  need  a  -  we  need  a  lower  out  of 
my  bag. 

Let  me  get  the  core. 
A  lower  out  of  my  bag  is  all  we  need. 
Watch  it.    You're  in  a  crater  almost. 
Yes.    I  want  to  get  ...  for  you. 

Okay.    We  have  to  have  you  guys  moving  in  10  min- 
utes.   And  we'd  like  to  also  deploy  EP  number  5 
here . 

Okay.     I'll  start  on  the  ...  -  - 
-  -  . . .  the  lower  5? 
This  is  a  lower,  right? 
Yes. 


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LMP-E\'A    You  got  an  upper? 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Why  don't  you  get  5  out,  and  I'll  start  on 
the  core, 

LMP-EVA    ...    And  I'll  put  it  -  I'll  put  that  right  there. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    The  lower  is  50;  the  upper  is  37. 

CC  Copy.     50  and  37- 

CDR-EVA    You  got  5,  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Why  don't  you  put  it  up  -  well  -  You  put  the 
gnomon  away.    Put  it  fairly  near  that  trench. 
At  least  there  is  some  documentation  there.  I'll 
try  to  have  the  pan  going  while  you're  doing  it. 
Okay,  Houston.    Which  way  you  going  to  drive  out 
of  here? 

I 'm  driving  out  of  here  - 
Left  or  right? 

I  -  I've  got  to  go  right.    I  got  to  go  right. 

Okay.  Pin  1  is  pulled  and  safe.  Pin  2  is  pulled  - 
safe.    Pin  3  is  pulled  and  safe. 

Okay,  Jack.    And  we'll  docijment  it  hack  to  the 
Rover,  I  guess  is  the  best  way.    That  doesn't 
look  too  hard.  Gene.    Until  just  now. 

Thank  you.    Oops,  looks  like  you  proved  me  wrong. 

The  first  core  was  easy;  the  second  one  a  little 
tougher;  and  then  it  got  tough  down  at  the  end. 
There,  I'm  getting  a  picture  of  you.  Okay? 

Okay. 


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I  got  it. 

You  got  it  from  here?  Okay. 
Yes. 

Core  T3ut  it  wants  to  slide  out.  It's  full.  No 
rocks  in  it.  It  looks  like  just  the  same  stuff 
we've  been  traveling  through. 

Okay,  Jack.    I  think  you  better  help  Gene  with 
that  -  recovering  that  core  there  where  the  . .  . 
going  to  fall  out . 

You  know,  I  think  you're  right.    And  if  you'll 
just  wait  until  I  finish  the  pan,  that's  exactly 
what  I'm  going  to  do. 

Okay.    I  didn't  know  what  you  were  doing. 
Bob,  it's  capped. 
Got  you.  Okay. 

You  hold  -  just  hold  the  handle. 
Okay?    I  can  take  this  one. 

It's  very  -  very  loose  soil.  Jack.    And  it's  - 
just  any  little  movement  and  you'll  lose  some 
of  it. 

Let  me  cap  that  end.    Don't  move  it. 

Uh-oh,  you're  -  you  almost  knocked  some  out.  Get 
your  -  you  know  where  yoior  thing  is . 

Yes,  but  I  need  you  -  that  -  that  cap's  on  you. 
The  last  one's  gone  off  the  Rover. 

That's  all  right.    I'll  stay  here.     Go  put  yours 
out  there.    I  won't  move  it. 

Any  little  movement  and  that  stuff  starts  -  - 


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CC 

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Yes.  Okay. 

Go  -  turn  around.    I'll  get  the  rammer. 
Okay, 

Oh,  man!  Even  these  pins  are  getting  stiff. 
Okay,  Bob.  The  top  rammed  down  -  c*i,  almost 
half  vay  without  any  effort. 

Copy  that. 

The  . . .  back  on . 

The  bottom  rammed  down  about  an  inch. 
Copy  that. 

Okay,  Robert.    Let's  see.    Turn  around  and  I'll 
get  this.    What  was  the  last  thing  -  let's  see  - 
we  had  to  do? 

A  couple  of  footbail-size  rocks. 
You  got  the  I^EA? 

I  got  it,    I  got  the  charge.    You  got  the  double 
core.    I  got  the  double  core.    And  I  got  one 
sample  of  a  radial  sample  (laughter). 

We  got  a  -  that ' s  a  unique  one . 

In  w  pocket  (laughter). 

And  have  we  got  the  gravimeter  back  on  the  Rover? 
Yes;  it's  on. 
Okay.    Copy  that. 

And  we  want  to  get  a  large  block.  Why  don't  we  - 
Why  don't  we  -  - 

Okay,  and  there's  a  -  - 


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CDR-EVA    No,  let's  get  a  couple  of  them.    I've  got  -  I've 
got  one. 

CC  -  -  ...  here  for  a  SESC  from  the  shallow  trench. 

We'd  also  like  to  have  you  moving  in  k  minutes. 
That's  with  wheels  rolling  in  h  minutes. 

LMP-EVA    SESC,  huh? 

CC  Roger;  but  we  have  to  have  the  wheels  rolling  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  if  we  can  do  that.    We  can  try  it. 

CC  We  want  the  wheels  rolling  in  h  minutes ,  so  I 

don't  think  it's  practical  at  this  time. 

CDR-EVA  Bob,  we  cannot  get  an  SESC  in  k  minutes  -  - 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that  

CDR-EVA  -  -  and  roll  -  - 

CC   Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  at  the  same  time. 

06  22  Oh  31    CDR-EVA    Now,  I've  got  to  push  this  latch  on  the  -  on  the 

gate  to  get  it  locked  -  on  the  pallet  to  get  it 
locked . 

LMP-EVA    Need  some  help? 

CDR-EVA    Ptish  the  pallet  while  I  trip  the  latch,  will  you? 

Because  I  got  to  trip  the  latch.  There's  so  much 
dust  in  that  core. 

LMP-EVA    Get  it? 

CDR-EVA    No.    No.    Wait  a  minute.    Open  it  up.  Wait 
a  minute. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Now  -  now  that's  where  -  now  let  me  trip  it. 


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Okay.    Try  it. 

Locked? 

Yes .    Yes . 

Should  be  locked  now. 
That  got  it.    That  got  it. 
Okay. 

Got  a  hig  rock  there,  too? 

It's  a  -  well,  you  know,  the  thing  that  amazes  me 
is  that  there's  no  subfloor  arotmd  here. 

I  got  one  here. 

Okay.    I'm  about  ready  to  clean  up  the  Rover  here. 

Okay,  17.    What's  out  there  in  the  distance  on  a 
hillside  in  the  field  of  view  of  the  camera?  The 
camera  is  pointing  at  it.    Oh,  I'll  bet  that's 
the  -  that's  the  -  - 

What's  out  there  in  the  distance.    Which  hill? 
Let  me  see  the  -  - 

 ■  that's  the  flag,  I  bet,  on  the  charge. 

Yes,  but  it's  only  -  you're  looking  right  at  it, 
but  it's  only  10  meters  away. 

OkeQT.  It's  hanging  in  front  of  the  hills.  That's 
the  problem. 

You're  looking  right  at  the  flag. 

Okay.    It's  hanging  in  front  of  the  hills.  We 
thought  we  had  an  ajrtifact  or  something  like  that. 
Okay.    Press  on. 

Bob,  bag  1*86  is  a  light-colored  rock  taken  about 
3  meters  to  the  right  of  the  Rover.    It  should 
be  -  you  should  be  able  to  pick  it  out  in  that 
last  pan,  unless  the  focus  was  bad. 


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Bola ,  you  got  all  your  TG  readings  ? 

Roger.    We've  got  that.    We'd  like  to  have  you 
climb  on. 

You  vant  the  LCRU  off? 

Roger.    Let's  go  to  LCRU  power  off. 

Okay,  Jack,  let's  -  tetter  get  going. 

Yes.    You  know,  I  don't  think  there  is  any  sub- 
floor  in  here.    The  rocks  are  so  dust  covered 
that  it's  hard  to  be  sure,  but  no  rock  I  picked 
up  looked  like  subfloor. 

Get  on  there  one  time.    Ready?    I  got  three  of 
them  that  time. 

(Laughter) 

17,  Houston.    Do  you  read  me  through  the  -  the  LM? 
You're  loud  and  clear. 
Roger.    Thank  you. 
I  hope  they  came  out. 

I  get  that  twisted  this  time,  if  I  can  get  off. 

Oh,  let's  see  if  old  twinkletoes  can  do  it. 

Jack,  there's  a  big  -  a  big  one  right  there  in 
my  floor  pan.    That's  what  I  did  last  time. 

Okay.    I'm  on,  strangely  enough. 

Okay.    Let's  see.    Okey.    The  charge  is  off  to 
the  -  right. 

Yes,  you're  all  -  You  can  clear  it  this  way  or  -  - 
Yes.    I  see  it.    I  see  it. 


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LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    I  bet  you  they  thought  there  was  some  more  orange 
soil  over  there  on  the  hills. 

CDR-EVA    Get  out  of  this  block  field,  we'll  be  able  to 
move  it  a  little  bit. 

LMP-EVA    I  wonder  where  we  stand  on  time. 

06  22  09  25    CDR-EVA    Well,  we've  been  out  about  5  hours  and  20  minutes 

or  so, 

LMP-EVA    Where  is  it  -  where  are  we  headed,  now  that  we 
are  moving? 

CC  That's  affirm  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I'm  trying  to  get  around  -  trying  to  get 

out  of  the  block  field  here,  then  I'll  head  back 
to  the  southwest.    We  going  to  Sherlock  at  all. 
Bob? 

No,  we're  going  ...  follow  the  ...   

LMP-EVA    That  must  be  Catsby  over  there. 


CC 


And  a  reminder.  Jack.  We  can  get  lots  of  photos. 
We've  got  lots  of  film  left  right  now. 


LMP-EVA  Okay. 


CC 


And,  17.     Gene,  I  guess  you're  the  one  that  took 
the  SEP  out .    If  you  could  give  me  -  do  you  re- 
member the  reading  of  the  SEP  temperature  when 
you  broke  it  down? 

CDR-EVA  Didn't  even  look,  Bob. 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  It  was  125  -  125  when  we  started  the  station. 

CC  Roger.     Copy  that. 


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CDR-EVA    That's  Gatsby  there,  I  guess,  h\xh? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    It's  not  -  it's  not  unlike  Van  Serg,  though.  Hey, 
you  know  that  looks  like  mantling. 

LMP-EVA    Hopefully,  we  can  get  a  -  watch  your  rock  -  there 
you  go  -  we  can  get  a  shot  looking  back  to  the 
northwest  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I'll  get  that  when  I   

LMP-EVA    -  -  into  Gatshy,  because  it  looks  like  the  mantle 
streams  over  the  -  the  side  from  the  southwest. 
Can  you  swing  to  your  right  -  get  up  a  little 
closer  to  the  rim,  there? 

CDR-EVA  Hey,  here's  a  couple  fragments  in  spots  - 

LMP-EVA  Look  at  that.    See  that? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  See  that  structijre.    See  how  the  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  -  -  See  how  the  mantle  streams  over  - 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  -  from  the  northwest.    Can  you  get  that? 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  And  from  the  southwest. 

CDR-EVA  Got  it? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    Go  ahead.    Keep  going.     Good  shape.     Got  it. 

06  22  11  kl    CDR-EVA  We're  236/2.1. 


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LMP-EVA    Bob,  what  I'm  looking  at  is  the  -  northwest  portion 
of  Gatshy,  where  there's  a  very  very  concentrated 
block  field  on  the  inner  wall,  except  where  there 
are,  on  the  southwest,  three  streams  and  on  the 
northwest  ajid  north  a  continuous  stream,  if  you 
will,  on  "bsjid,  radial  hand,  of  mantle  that  is 
bur  -  appears  to  he  burying  that  field,  overlying 
and  mantling  the  field.    We  got  some  pretty  pic- 
tures of  it ,  I  think . 

CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

IjMP-EVA    Bob,  I'm  more  and  more  convinced  there's  a  mantle. 
One  possibility,  I  guess,  is  that,  if  it's  a 
pyrocleistic  mantle,  that  in  the  lunar  vacuum 
environment  and  with  whatever  volatiles  we're 
dealing  with,  the  stuff  becomes  extremely  fine 
upon  vesiculation.    We  may  have  been  on  it  all 
the  time  and  not  known  it  -  as  far  as  recognizing 
it. 

CDR-EVA    As  soon  as  we  come  through  this  draw,  ...  smooth  or 
free  of  einy  debris  or  boulders  it  is  on  the  other 
side  of  the  upslope. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Watch  it. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  do  we  have  an  extra  EP? 

CC  No.    We  have  two  of  them  behind  you.    We're  going 

to  deploy  -  we're  going  to  deploy  one.     I'll  give 
you  a  reading  soon  on  that. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Well,  one  -  one  I  deploy  at  the  end  I  know. 
I  thought  we  had  an  extra  one  here  somewhere. 

CC  Okay.    Yes,  that's  what  I  -  Okay,  that's  the  one 

we  were  planning  on  deploying  all  along,  and 
it's  there.    We'll  be  deploying  at  a  range  of  0.1, 
which  is  Just  before  you  get  to  the  SEP. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 


LMP-EVA 


I  guess  Sherlock's  going  to  be  right  over  the  top 
over  here.    I  saw  it  when  we  were  on  that  other 
ridge . 


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CDR-EVA    Hey,  you  know,  there's  a  lot  of  "bad  landing  places 
around  here.    That  old  Stin  ajigle,  I  think,  shows 
most  of  them  up .    Boh ,  I  -  - 

CC  And,  Geno,  we  were  looking  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  under   

CC  -  -  at  the  map  here  -  - 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  unders  

CC  -  -  and  if  you  keep  going  straight  to  the  LM, 

you're  probably  going  to  run  into  this  crater 
area  arovind  San  Luis  Rey.    You  probably  ought  to 
head  somewhat  south  of  directly  back  to  the  LM,  so 
we  can  at  least  tip  the  -  western  edge  of  Sherlock 
and  then  pick  it  up  and  go  from  there  back  to  the 
SEP.    It  looks  like  it  might  be  rather  rough  there 
in  that  dotted-lined  area,  if  you  can  look  at  the 
backside  of  your  map.  Jack. 

06  22  15  00    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I've  already  been  doing  it.    I'm  at  2i+l+/1.7. 

CC  Copy  that.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Already  been  doing  that . 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA    And,  Bob,  about  -  about  200  meters  back,  we 

crossed  back  into  our  standard  mantle  surface  of 
about  1-percent  fragment  cover  -  - 

CC  Okay  200  meters  back,  you  -  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    out  of  this  -  the  block  field,  which  - 

LMP-EVA    I  can  see  the  LM. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  can  see  the  LM.    And  there's  Sherlock, 
where  those  blocks  are. 


LMP-EVA 


Yes,  that's  the  block  field,  the  Sherlock  block 
field;  that's  right.    That  is  a  block  field. 


Tape  111A/U1| 


CDR-EVA    Some  big  ones  there. 
LMP-EVA  Yes. 

CDR-EVA    Old  station  10.    I  might  even  call  it  10  Alpha  in 
honor  of  the  Apollo  Program  Office.    The  -  - 

CC  10  Bravo,  Apollo. 

CDR-EVA    Apollo  Spacecraft  Program  Office. 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  that's  right.    10  Bravo.     I  knew  I'd  never  get 
that  straight. 

CC  Do  those  blocks  look  like  gabbros ,  you  guys? 

CDR-EVA    How  fast  do  you  think  we're  going,  Jack,  without 
looking? 

LMP-EVA    I  think  we're  going  about  l8  clicks. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  you're  just  about  right.    Seems  like  the 
first  time  we've  been  able  to  go  downhill. 

MP-EVA    ( Laughter ) 
CDR-EVA    Not  really. 

LMP-EVA    Pull  close  to  this  big  block,  if  you  can. 
CDR-EVA    Oh,  yes. 

LMP-EVA    And  I'll  try  to  get  a  reading  on  what  it  is  -  some 
pictures  of  it  as  we  come  up  to  it. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Boy  that's  a  big  one. 

LMP-EVA    Watch  it!     ...    Looks  like  our  old  friend,  the 
sub floor  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Subfloor,  isn't  it?  Yes. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.^  Vesicular  subfloor.    Vesicles  are  about  a 
centimeter  maximum  size.    Didn't  look  like  they 
were  -  they  look  like  they're  fairly  evenly  sorted. 
And  the  rock  itself  seemed  to  be  massif. 


Tape  lllA/it5 


06  22  IT  08  CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

06  22  17  Ul  CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
Ll-IP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
MP-EVA 
CC 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


250/1. 1+. 
250 /I. U. 

Okay,  we're  back  into  a  -  we're  back  into  about 
a  5-percent  rock  cover  as  we  cross  the  edge  of  the 
Sherlock  block  field. 

That's  Sherlock  over  that  rim  over  there. 

Yes.    Yes,     Once  again,  all  these  subfloor  blocks 
look  as  if  they're  buried.    Now  -  not  mantle, 
necessarily,  except  maybe  that  one.    Can  you  swing 
right.  Just  a  tad? 

That  one's  got  the  mantle  blowing  up  on  it,  in 
it  -  - 

Yes. 

-  -  in  it's  fractures  and  everything. 

That's  the  best  example  of  that,  I  think. 

Take  a  picture  of  that? 

I  got  it.    I  got  it. 

Watch  it. 

Got  it;  got  it. 

Okay.    Now,  do  those  blocks  look  like  the  same 
subfloor  gabbro? 

Yes,  that's  just  got  the  mantle  - 

Watch  it. 

. . .  one  of  those . 

Yes.    Everything  in  here  so  far  is  the  tan-gray 
subfloor  gabbro  that  I've  seen,    I  haven't  - 
Oh,  there's  one  over  there  that's  a  blue-gray. 
But  blue-gray  is  not  abundant. 


Tape  lHA/kS 


CC  Okay.    Cow  that.    And.  17,  as  you're  getting 

closer,  we're  going  to  vant  an  LEV  sample  at  1.1 
on  the  range. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  What  are  we  now?  1.2? 

CDR-EVA  1.2.    Okay.    We '11  try  to  get  block  and  soil . 

CC  That'd  be  good. 

LMP-EVA  There's  a  fresh  little  pit. 

LMP-EVA  Bob    I  am  continually  impressed  by  the  lack  of 
exotic  fragments  in  here. 

CDR-EVA    Hjy.Jack.    How  about  picking  out  a  place  over 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     If  you  head  into  that  little  -  Well  that's 
a  crater  there. 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  around  it.    We  can  go  a  little  bit 
further. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Maybe  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I'll  go  up  on  that  flat  area  up  there. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.  yes.    There  are  a  lots  of  little  fragments 
over  there  by  that  area  -  ha,  ha. 

CDR-EVA    Any  time. 

LMP-EVA    Okay      Now  swing  a  shallow  turn.    Whoa.     Yes,  that 
ought  to  . . , 

CDR-EVA    -  Did  you  get  any  of  those? 

LMP-EVA    Unfortunately,  I  can't  see  them  -  the  shadow. 

CDR-EVA    How  about  that  one  right  in  front  of  you,  in 

front  of  the  television  camera  shadow.  See  that 
little  one  up  there?    Right  there.    With  the  -  - 

LMP-EVA    It's  a  little  big,  I  think. 


Tape  lllA/l+T 


CDB-EVA    Upper  right,  no  upper  right.    Straight  up  the  line, 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  okay.    Yes.    If  you  can  get  over  there,  I  can 
get  it. 

CDR-EVA    I  can  get  there. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  guess  I  had  the  wrong  -  I  guess  I  wasn't 
looking  at  the  right  one.    The  shadow  is  maJcing 
it  impossible  to  see  down  there.    Now,  see  what 
you  can  get. 

06  22  20  Ok    CDR-EVA    Bob,  we're  at  253/1.1. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    You're  going  to  have  to  -  If  we  do  another  sample, 
you're  going  to  have  to  swing  right  so  I  can  - 
see.    I  can't  see  this  way. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

06  22  20  28    LMP-EVA  And  53  Yankee. 

CC  Copy  that.    Is  that  soil  or  rock? 

LMP-EVA  That's  soil.    I  can't  see  to  get  a  rock. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP-EVA  Go  forward  just  a  little  bit.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA     Bet  you're  going  to  get  yourself  in  a  box  there. 

CDR-EVA  No,  that's  all  right. 

LMP-EVA  Whoa. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  boy,  sorry. 

LMP-EVA  Little  more.  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Get  it? 

LMP-EVA  I  will.     Got  it. 


Tape  lllA/1+8 


CDR-EVA    I  can't  see  the  LM  anymore. 

06  22  21  10    LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  rock  fragments,  that's  5^+  Yankee.  Ahhl 

Okay.  You  got  a  rock  right  in  front  of  you,  don't 
you? 

CDR-EVA    I  see  it.    Rolled  over.     Good  old  Rover. 
LMP-EVA    LMP  frame  for  that  sample  -  Looks  like  ahout  6o. 
CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    60!    Have  I  taken  60  pictures? 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  these  rock  fields  are  something  else  again. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  60,    Looks  like  some  of  our  gray  variety  of 
subfloor  up  here  -  around  the  rim  of  that  little 
crater.    You  know,  I'm  starting  to  think  that 
mayhe  the  gray  relatively  nonvesicular  subfloor 
may  be  deeper  -  deeper  fraction,  based  on  what 
we  saw  -  well,  actually,  though,  let's  see  -  that 
CQvld  have  been  overturn,  I  don't  know.  Take 
that  back.    There  Just  isn't  much  of  it  around 
here,  although  we  saw  a  lot  of  it  in  the  wall  of 
Cochise. 

CC  Roger.    We  got  that. 

06  22  23  02    CDR-EVA    What  do  you  think  this  is,  San  Luis  Rey?  We're 

at  252/0.9. 

LMP-EVA    I  wouldn't  doubt  it  at  all.    I'll  bet  that's  San 
Luis  Rey.    Around  the  east  side  of  it  -  Mariner 
and  San  Luis  Rey.    They're  shallow  -  filled  with 
rocks . 

As  close  as  we  can  tell,  you're  at  one  or  the 
other  of  them. 

06  22  23  36    CDR-EVA    Boy.  I  tell  you  they're  a  lot  -  Okay.  We're 

at  250/0.9. 

CC  Copy  that, 

CDR-EVA    Mariner  should  look  pretty  fresh. 


Tape  IIIA/U9 


LMP-EVA    Boy,  I  certainly  don't  see  much  variety  other 

than  the  gray  and  the  tan  subfloor  variety.  There's 
old  Challenger. 

CDR-EVA    There  she  is.     Pretty  as  a  picture.    Boy,  I  tell 
you,  there's  no  getting  out  of  this  stuff.  You 
go  from  one  to  the  other. 

CC  Okay,  IT  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  don't  know  whether  I  said  it  or  not  -  - 

06  22  2k  25    CC  Gene,  your  range  is  0.1.    We're  going  to  deploy 

the  quajrter-pound  cheirge,  and  that'll  "be  Jack's 
getting  off  to  deploy  it  like  we  talked  about 
last  night. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    That's  EP-2,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    EP-2;  right. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  we're  still  -  we're  moving  in  and  out  of  areas 
of  say  1-percent  to  5-  to  10-percent  blockiness. 
And  where  it  gets  blocky  -  not  only  is  it  more 
blocky,  but  we  seem  to  have  more  of  the  medium- 
sized  craters  in  the  range  of  20-  to  5-iiieter- 
diameter  craters .    That  may  be  Mariner  right  there . 

LMP-EVA    How  do  you  read.  Bob? 

CC  Loud  and  clear.    Loud  and  clear. 

LMP-EVA    Hey,  Van  Serg,  let  me  mention  again,  was  an  unusual 
experience  in  the  plains  geology  here.    That  must 
be  part  of  San  Luis  Rey  or  MEirlner,  one. 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    That's  pretty  deep.    Pretty  deep. 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  it  is. 

06  22  26  13    CDR-EVA    It's  really  big.    Yes,  we're  at  252  and  0.6. 

CC  Copy  that . 

LMP-EVA  The  crater  on  our  left  -  that  is,  south  of  us  -  is 
a  large  crater.  It's  somewhat  deeper  than  craters 
of  the  same  size  that  we've  seen.    And  it,  too. 


Tape  111 A/ 50 


though,  has  -  its  hlocks  -  mainly  -  large  blocks 
mainly  in  the  walls,  although  there  are  blocks  - 
blocks  up  here  in  the  rim,  occasionally  up  to 
3  meters . 

LMP-EVA    Look  at  that  string  of  blocks  over  there  -  that 
may  be  it. 

CDR-EVA  Yes . 

LMP-EVA  That's  an  edge  of  a  crater,  I  guess. 

CDR-EVA  Want  a  picture  of  that? 

LMP-EVA  Got  it.    Look  at  the  way  that  thing's  fractured. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  this  is  the  San  Luis  Rey,  Luis  complex, 
because  see  how  elongated  it  is? 

LMP-EVA    Yes .    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    Fact  is,  we're  going  to  cut  right  through  the 
western  half  here. 

06  22  27  30    CDR-EVA    We're  at  2U1|/0.U. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  I  may  have  said  earl  -  early  -  early  on  up 
there  at  Van  Serg  that  I  saw  subfloor,  but  we 
never  did  sample  any  that  I  know  of.    And  the 
dust  was  thick  enough  that  I'm  just  not  sure. 
Breccias  were  the  most  obvious  thing  there. 


CC 


Okay.    Most  interesting. 


LMP-EVA    It  might  have  been  a  window  in  the  plains  here,  of 
some  kind.    But  -  it's  strange  to  see  it  there, 
with  so  much  subfloor  all  around  it  that  we  saw. 

06  22  28  29    CC  And,  Jack,  you're  going  to  get  a  feedwater  tone 

pretty  soon. 

LMP-EVA    Got  it.    Hey,  I  should  be  in  OFF  now. 
06  22  28  51    CDR-EA     252  and  0.2. 


Tape  lllA/51 


CC  Copy  that . 

CDR-E\''A    There  she  is. 

06  22  28  56    CC  And  as  soon  as  we  get  to  the  0.1,  let's  stop  and 

deploy  the  charge. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  lllB/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUlirD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 

06  22  45  XX  BEGIN  LUKAE  REV  U2 

06  23  10  12    CC  America,  Houston. 

CC  America,  Houston, 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

06  23  13  k9    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    Tliis  is  America.    Once  we  get  the 

antenna  set  right,  it  is  easy  to  lock  up. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  How  woiad  you  like  -  how  would  you  like  to  have 

some  P52  stuff? 

CC  Standing  by.    All  ears. 

CMP  Okay,  KOTJK  71's  -  excuse  me  -  on  6  and  k2;  KOUK  05, 

0.01;  KOUU  93,  plus  0.053,  minus  0.011,  minus  O.O39, 
And  I  torqued  at  l69:2l:00. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy,  Ron.     And,  Ron,  while  you're 

there  we'd  like  H^  TAHK  1  FANs  to  ON. 

06  23  Ih  52    CMP  Okay.    TANK  1  H^,  FANs  1,  are  on. 

CMP  I  got  too  much  Junk.     It  won't  all  fit  in  one 

jettison  "beig. 

CC  Ron,  Just  to  update  you  on  several  things  that 

happened  while  you  were  on  the  "back  side  this 
time,  the  surface  crew  is  at  the  LM  and  did 
their  -  they're  in  the  close-out  procedures 
there.    And  they  unveiled  the  plaque  and  read  a 
message  to  the  school  children  on  the  world.  And 
they  received  a  telephone  call  from  Dr.  Fletcher, 
who  said  he'd  been  in  close  contact  with  the  White 


Tape  lll£/2 


House  and  was  following  -  they  -  the  White  House 
was  following  the  journey  very  closely  and  ex- 
pressed the  good  wishes  of  all  people  down  here 
to  all  of  you  up  there. 

06  23  17  31    CMP  Hey,  that's  mighty  fine,  hy  gosh. 

06  23  33  Oh    CC  Ron,  soriy  to  interrupt  you  eating,  hut  could 

you  take  the       TANK  2  and  3  FMs  to  OK?  We're 
trying  to  get  the  pressures  up  prior  to  sleep. 

06  23  33  16    CMP  Okay.    2  and  3  are  ON. 

06  23  3h  39    CMP  You  know,  through  these  glasses,  Stoney  still 

looks  like  it's  a  light  -  light  tannish-orange . 
And  It  s  -  doesn't  come  all  the  way  down  to  the 
center  of  the  crater.     It's  kind  of  tangent  to 
the  north  edge  or  tangent  to  the  edge  -  it's 
perpendicular  to  the  scarp  line,  itself,  as  it 
goes  down  through  there. 

CC  Roger ;  copy . 


CMP 


CC 

CMP 
CMP 


Man,  it's  hard  to  see  that  - 


06  23  36  09    CMP  Everyti-  I  focus  on  F  Crater  (laughter)  I  Jiggle 

a  little  bit,  and  I  can't  focus. 


Roger.  Sounds  like  you  use  binculars  at  a  foot- 
hall  game,  huh? 

...  stablize  hinocs. 

Yes,  these  -  you  know  you  need  the  10  power,  hut 
you  sure  need  something  to  stabilize  it. 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  know,  I  looked  down  here,  -  Oh,  boy!  Just 

between  Tacquet  and  Menelaus  and  off  to  .he  wes- 
of  Menelaus,  there's  a  crater  that's  about  10  k^lo- 
neters  in  diameter.     And  Just  to  the  right  o^  z 
out  xn  the  brown  stuff,  there's  a  brand-new 
spanking- fresh  impact  crater  that  has  brc'.rn  e^ecoa 
on  it.    And  then  some  of  the  other  crate-s  -  - 
crater  happens  to  be  right  on  the  edge  of  the ^"  " 


Tape  lllB/3 


CMP 


cc 


CMP 


■brownish-type  material,  right  over  one  of  the 
rilles.    Hope  I  can  mark  that  on  a  picture  on  the 
map.    And  some  of  the  other  craters  about  that 
same  size,  around  the  area,  out  in  there,  they 
have  the  light-colored  ejecta  just  like  the  normal 
small  impact  craters  -  recent  impact  craters  out 
in  the  Mare  Serenitatis  itself. 


06  23  ho  56    CC  Roger,  Ron. 


CC  Ron,  we'd  like  to  get  ready  -  started  on  some  of 

these  state  vectors  earlier  -  this  state  vector, 
and  the  jet-on  monitor.    So  if  you'll  get  ACCEPT, 
we'd  appreciate  it. 


Okay,  you  can  have  it,  now.  It  that  -  Yes,  let's 
see.    Clear  the  computer  for  you. 

Ron,  just  for  my  information  -  - 


CMP  There  you  have  it. 

 I'ni  sure  we  -  the  back  room's  got  it.  Could 

you  pinpoint  that  new  crater  between  Tacquet  and 
Menelaus?     Is  it  what  -  like  halfway  between,  or 
something  like  that.    Is  it  on  a  check  line?  Or 
is  it  in  the  rilles  there  from  Tacquet,  say  east  ■ 
west  of  Tacquet,  but  in  the  rille  area. 

06  23  i+1  53    CMP  It's  -  Let  me  get  my  map. 

CC  Oh,  that's  all  right,  Ron.    It's  not  that  -  don't 

need  it  that  close.  Don't  want  to  interrupt  your 
eating. 

CMP  No,  that's  all  right. 


That  crater  is  closer  to  Menelaus  -  Melanoff , 
whatever  it  is . 


CC  Okay . 

06  23  h2  h9    CMP  And  it's  almost  directly  east  of  Menelaus, 


Tape  lllB/lt 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Roger.     I'll  put  a  mark  here  and  mark  it  on  ny 
map  so  you  can  look  at  it  preflight  -  postf light 


CMP  Okay, 


CMP 


CMP 


You  know,  I  was  looking  at  D-Caldera  and  you  got 
a  lobate  -  a  locate  flow  front  sticking  down  in 
the  crazy  thing.    I'll  be  darned. 

Must  be  amazing  up  there.    That  whole  scene  seems 
to  change  as  that  terminator  is  shifting  -  each 
rev  is  something  is  different  in  each  area,  be- 
cause of  that  -  Sun  angle,  I'm  sure.    But  -  - 


CMP  Yes . 

CC  -  -  But ,  boy  -  - 


You  know,  it's  almost  like  -  what  I  originally 
said,  you  know,  like  -  maybe  there's  a  high  spot 
or  a  dry  spot  and  you  try  to  wet  it,  you  know? 

Roger;  I  understand  exactly  what  you're  talking 
about . 


CMP  The  flow  has  come  up  to  it  -  Yes.    That's  what 

it  looks  like.    Just  like  that. 

CC  Kind  of  like  a  waxed  surface,  where  you  throw 

water  on  it  and  it  -  and  the  surface  tension 
gathers  it  together  in  various  limps  and  the  rest 
isn't  clear. 

CMP  Yes.     Yes,  that's  it. 

06  23  hh  kl    CMP  And  the  part  that  the  wajced  surface  -  so  zo  apeak  - 

in  analogy  there,  is  a  light  bluish-gray. 


Picture  number  1  on  the  Kikon  was  looking  south 
along  the  terminator  in  the  rilles  east  -  west  of 
Aristoteles . 

And  the  picture  number  2  is  looking  towara 
Timocharis . 


Tape  lllB/5 


Say  again.    Looking  towards  where? 
06  23  h8  12    CMP  Timocharis. 
CC  Okay. 

CMP  Timocharis  is  right  on  the  terminator  now,  the 

miadle  -  — 

CC  Roger.    Got  it. 


CMP 


CC 
CMP 

CC 


On  that  crater  that  has  the  definite  tan  ejecta 

!fJ^*J;  ^^^'^1  S°  -  directly  north  -  directly 
north  of  the  center  of  the  crater  Auwers 

t'^'tT'^Zl'^'  ^^^^  those 
rilles  there  in  the  Tacquet  area,  that's  ahout 
where  it  is . 

Roger.    Got  it. 

Well,  I  had  better  get  busy  and  start  eating,  I 
guess .  ^ ' 

Roger.     You  have  got  to  eat  here  and  then  -  Well 
don  t  get  too  busy  eating.    You've  supposed  to  ' 
^^r%J^^"/^^^i^-     I've  got  to  read  you  up  a 
iiiI-55  pad.  If  you  want  to  take  that  -  - 


CMP  Oh.  (Chuckle) 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


-  -  then  you've  got  to  do  your  presleep  checklist 
and  we'll  see  you   

Okay.     ***  seem  like  there's  enough  time  to  get 
everything  done  that  you  want  to  get  done. 

Roger,    Okay,  the  computer  is  yours  -  back  to  BLOCK. 

06  23  50  55    CMP  Okay,  going  to  BLOCK.     And  you  say  you  have  got  a 

itii  pad,  huh? 

CC  Roger.  TEI-55. 

CMP  Okay. 


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CC  Okay,  it's  SPS/G&N:    -  - 

CMP  Copy. 

06  23  51  15    CC  -  -  36076;  plus  0.56,  plus  0.80;  196:58:li6.51; 

NOUN  8l's:    plus  2785.7,  minus  0957.1,  minus  OI7U.6 
roll  of  179,  pitch  is  085,  yav.  3U3.    Rest  of  the 
pad  is  not  applicable.    Sirius  and  Rigel  are  the 
set  stars,  but  ve  got  a  little  difference  on  the 
hour  line.    Tonight's  hour  line  is  136:l6:00,3it; 
four  jet,  12  seconds.    I've  got  three  comments. 
First  comment.  

06  23  52  19    CMP  Okay.  Go. 

CC    longitude  of  the  T^^,  minus  156.91  degrees. 

This  pad  assumes  a  trim  hurn  and  a  LOPC-1  burn. 
And  this  pad  assumes  a  lift-off  REFSMMAT.  Over. 

Okay.    The  last  note  was  assumes  lift-off  REFSMMAT 
huh? 


CMP 


CC  That's  right. 

CMP  Okay,  TEI-55.     SPS/G&N;  36076;  plus  O.56, 

plus  O.8O;  196:58:1^6.51;  plus  2785.7,  minus  0957.1, 
minus  017^^.6;  roll,  179,  O85,  3ll3;  Sirius  and 
Rigel,  136,  160,  03hi  four  Jet;  12  seconds; 
longitude  at  T      equals  minus  I56.9I;  assumes  a 

trim  and  LOPC  hurn;  and  a  lift-off  REFSMMAT. 

06  23  3h  00    CC  That's  a  good  readback,  Ron.    Okay,  it's  all  yours 

on  the  Flight  Plan,  and  -  Ron,  we  might  point  out 
that,  if  you  get  going  into  the  presleep  checklist 
here,  in  the  VHF  comm  configuration.    Get  that 
done,  then  there's  a  break  -  you'll  lose  comm  and 
you'll  have  a  I5  -  20  minute  break,  you  can  jump 
into  your  eat  and  then  go  right  to  bed. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CC  Ron,  my  last  cal.1,  I  promise.     I  need  -  Here's 

your       tank  configuration.    We  want        TANK  1 

and  2,  FAKs  to  OFF.  TARX  3  PAN  to  AUTO.  And 

you  can  delete  cryo  stir  from  the  presleep 
checklist. 


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CMP 


CMP 
CC 


CMP 


Okay.     I've  got  TMK  1  and  2  FAJSs ,  OFF.    And  H 
FAN  number  3  to  AUTO.  ^ 


CC  And  delete  the  stir  from  the  checklist 


Okay,  we'll  do  that.    We'll  delete  the  stir. 

Okay,  and  we'll  be  standing  hy  for  your  onboard 
readout  . . .  -  - 


CMP  Okay,  here's  the  pan  -  Oh,  okay.     May  as  well  get 

those  there.    Let's  get  VHF  -  - 

CC  Roger.    We  concur  on  that. 

06  23  55  03    CMP  ***  on  panel  9-     Okay,  it's  RECEIVE.    And,  we  are 

in  DUPLEX  Alfa.    And  SQUELCH  B  is  -  Whooh!  About 
5,  that  cuts  out  the  noise.     I  don't  know  if  I'd 
ever  hear  them  or  not,  but,  anyhow,  it  cuts  out 
the  noise.    Okay,  let's  see  -  ***  C  is  about  36.?. 
Pyro  A:    barely  below  the  line,  but  we'll  say  37.0 
and  pyro  B  is  37-0.     Okay,  that  looks  like  that's 
in  good  shape . 


Okay,  quantity  in  RCS  Alfa,  about  79;  Bravo  is  76; 
Charlie,  78;  Delta  is  80. 


CC  Okay,  we  got  them.    I  don't  know  what  they're 

advertising  down  here,  but  on  one  of  the  big 
screens  here  for  the  science  group,  they've  got 
three,  four  signs  put  up  now.     It  says  the  "Marines 
are  looking  for  a  few  good  men,"    "United  States 
Air  Force  is  a  challenge  for  the  bold,"  and  "Fly 
Navy,"  and  "Stay  in  school." 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  The  first  thing  they  put  up  was   

CMP  Putting  all  the  good  things  up,  huh? 

CC  Roger;  well,  the  first  thing  they  put  up  was 

"Marines  are  looking  for  a  few  good  men"  and  Deke 
gave  me  a  dirty  look,  there. 


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CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  By  the  vay,  the  troops  are  getting  into  the  LM 

ri^t  now. 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  they're  all  ready  to  crawl  back  in,  huh^ 


06  23  59  02    CC  That's  affim,  Ron.    That  closes  it  all  out  and 

you  can  Just  precede  [sic]  through  your  checklist 
and  we'll  stand  by,  if  you  want  any  calls.  We 
will  see  you  tomorrow.    And,  the  Doctor's  Just   

CMP  Okay. 


  wanted  one  question  -  whether  or  not  the  cream 

had  done  any  good  on  those  spots  where  the  ZPK 
was?    Has  it  made  it  feel  better? 

Yes,  it  did,  as  a  matter  of  fact.    And,  I  forgot 
to  look  and  see  if  it  is  still  red. 

That • s  all  right .    As  long  as  it  made  it  feel 
better. 


CMP  There's  a  little  bitty  spot  that  must  have  been 

the  center  of  it.    It's  only  about  one-eighth  of 
an  inch  in  diameter.    It's  still  a  little  bit  red, 
but  the  rest  of  the  redness  is  all  gone.    And  it 
doesn't  itch  any  more. 

CC  Real  good. 

CMP  I  think  I  am  going  to  have  to  use  a  different  mag 

than  what's  listed  down  there  for  the  Hasselblad. 
I  got  November  November  and  it's  already  got 
160  frames  on  it . 

07  00  01  58    CC  Okay,  let  me  look  at  FAO  here.    He's  -  he'll  give 

me  the  word. 

CMP  Okay, 


CC 


Ron,  you  shoiad  use  Kilo  Kilo  in  place  of  November 
Koveniber, 


CMP 
CMP 

OT  00  oh  OT  CMP 


Okay.    It's  setting  there 
Okay,  Houston;  America. 
Go  ahead,  Ron. 


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Tape  112A/1 


APOTiO  17  AIR-TO-GEOUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


06  22  29  02    CDR-EVA    All  right. 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  then  I  guess  -  then  I'll  head  back  to 
the  LM. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  don't  go  to  the   

LMP-EVA    Unless  you  want  to  go  to  the  ALSEP. 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)     I  think  I'm  going  to. 

LMP-EVA    When  do  I  go  to  the  -  Oh,  you  go  to  SEP.  That's 
right . 

CDR-EVA    No,  you're  SEP  when  I  ...   

CC  We're  going  to  let  you  play  the  return  to  the 

ALSEP  game  there.  Jack.    We've  got  a  few  things 
for  you  to  do  out  there,  when  the  time  comes. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  ...  We're  almost  to  SEP.    We're  about   

CC  Roger.    We'll  be  just  short  of  SEP. 

CDR-EVA  50  meters  fi-om  SEP. 

CC  Is  it  short  of  the  antenna? 

LMP-EVA  Well   

CC    We'd  like  to  have  this   

LMP-EVA    You  see,  we  can  get  to  the  end  of  the 

antenna  -  - 

CC  No,  no.    Don't  -  let's  have  it  east  of  the 

antenna.  If  we  are  there,  let's  deploy  it  right 
where  you  are. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    We're  about  30  meters  east  of  the 
antenna.    How's  that? 


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.  CC  That  sounds  great. 

22  30  11    LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  we're  measuring  221  and  0.2;  221  and  0.2. 
CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    There's  a  rock.    I  stood  up  dovn  there,  and  I 
want  to  get  it  -  - 

CC  And  it's  EP  nwiber  2  that  we're  after.  Jack,  in 

case  you  didn't  follow  us. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    Hey,  our  gate's  open. 

CDR-EVA  It's  open? 

LMP-EVA  Yes.    But  it  looks  like  everything's  here. 

CDR-EVA  How  about  the  big  hag? 

LMP-EVA  Big  bag's  there. 

CC  Is  that  the  gate  or  the  pallet? 

LI>iP-EVA  They  wouldn't  dare  run  away. 

CC  The  gate  or  the  pallet? 

LMP-EVA  The  pallet.     I'm  sorry, 

CC  Well,  that's  worse. 

LMP-EVA  Seems  to  ride  all  right  that  way. 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  that  dust.     It's  getting  into  everything. 

(Humming)     Okay,  I'm  going  to  leave  the  gate 
like  it  is.    Seems  to  be  all  right. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  EP-2. 

LMP-EVA    Where  is  that?    There  it  is. 

CDR-EVA    Hey,  Jack.    You're  just  going  to  walk  back  from 
here,  aren't  you? 


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LMP-EVA 
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LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
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CC 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
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CDR-EVA 

CC 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


I  can,  yes. 

Well,  why  don't  you  just  go  turn  the  SEP  receiver 
off?    Oh,  we  did  that.    The  receiver's  all  done. 

...  the  transmitter  -  hut  you've  got  to  come  out 
here  anyway. 

Yes,  I've  got  to  come  out  here.    Forget  it. 
I  can  do  it. 

No,  I  was  just  reading  ahead,  hut  no  sense  - 
Forget  it. 

One  thing  I  want  you  -  Okay,     Pin  1,  Pulled 
and  safe.    Pin  2.    Pulled  and  safe.    Pin  3  is 
pxilled  and  safe. 

Copied  all  those. 

And  I'll  try  to  put  it  in  a  depression.  I'm 
going  to  put  it  in  a  depression,  if  you  want. 
Okay.    And  then  I've  got  to  take  a  pan,  huh? 
Will  a  locater  -  yes  -  How  about  a  locater  to 
the  LM? 

Be  fine. 

You  going  to  get  on.  Jack,  or  walk  "back?  Dealer's 
choice . 

I'll  get  on. 

Okay. 

Okay.     Locater  to  the  LM.     I'll  give  you  a  frame 
count,  if  I  can  read  it:    90  92. 

Copy;  92. 

You're  going  to  have  to  go  left  a  little,  right 
here . 

Go  left? 

To  avoid  the  antenna. 


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CDR-EVA 


Oh  -  - 

Yes,  we  don't  have  to  woriy  about  it. 

-  -  we  don't  have  to  worry  about  it,  but  -  but  I 
will  anyway. 

Go  ahead. 

Okay.    I'll  take  it  easy. 
Oh,  that's  all  right. 

I  want  to  point  out  a  rock  to  you  I  set  up  on 
end.  You  need  to  get  in  the  bag,  and  you  can 
let  me  off  there  and  I'll  carry  it. 

Okay. 

But  drive  close  enough  so  I  can  reach  down  ajid 
use  the  ...  for  support. 

Where  is  it? 

It's  out  over  here.    Between  the  -  - 
Oh  which  side  of  that  antenna? 
It's  -  - 

Oh,  there  it  is.    Right  there? 

No.  No,  it's  out  -  it's  on  the  -  it's  near  the  I,M . 
Oh,  okay. 

Here,  I  can  go  across  this  thing  I  already  did. 
That  bag  is  empty,  isn't  it? 

Yes,  that's  the  one  I  lost,  I  mean,  I  dropped. 
Look's  like  you  got  over. 
Yes .     Yes  . 


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LMP-EVA  I  think  it's  that  one  there  that's  sort  of  dark. 

CDR-EVA  Up  there,  straight  ahead? 

LMP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Bootprints  are  by  it.    That  must  be  it. 

LMP-EVA    That's  it,  yes.    Can  you  swing  over  so  I  can 
lean  on  the  Rover  when  I  put  the  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Oh .     { Laughter ) 

LMP-EVA    That's  good.    No,  that's  good.    That's  perfect. 
CDR-EVA    Okay.    Get  off. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  I  am  now  -  I'd  hate  to  get  run  over  this 
late  in  the  game.  Well  now,  what  did  I  do  that 
for? 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)    What  did  you  do?    Kick  it  under? 
LMP-EVA    Yes . 

LMP-EVA    Need  your  oil  changed? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.  While  you're  under  there,  would  you  check 
(laughter)  -  check  my  transmission,  please? 

LMP-EVA  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA    (Laughter)    And  -  any  bubbles  on  the  inside  of 
the  tires?  (laughter) 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Have  you  got  it? 

06  22  35  35    LMP-EVA    Yes,  I  got  it.    Hey,  Bob.     I  got  my  rock.  It's 

halfway  between  the  SEP  and  the  LM.  Wait,  wait. 
Let  me  put  it  in  the  big  bag  -  in  the  big  bag. 

CDR-EVA    Big  bag.     ...  -- 

CC  Is  this  that  -  is  this  that  brown  one  you  saw 

out  here  before,  Jack? 


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CC 
CC 


Okay,     Go  ahead. 
No,  it's  a  gray  one. 
Okay. 

Oops  -  Okay? 

Yes,  I  Just  lost  the  sample.  It's  in  my  pocket, 
I  guess.     Let  me  get  some  tongs. 

Okay. 

Then  you  can  go  ahead.     I'll  walk  back. 

Okay,  Bob.     I'm  hack  at  the  LM   

Roger.    We  have  you  hack  at  the  LM. 

151,  12.0,  and  001.    Well,  wait  a  minute. 

Can  you  get  it? 

I  got  to  get  your  bag  -  - 

I  got  it;  I  got  it. 

Let  me  get  your  hag  off. 

I 'm  reading  80  on  the  amps ,  78  on  the  amps  - 
Correction,  that's  amp-hours.     Voltages,  62  and 
65.    Battery  1  is  132,  ...  0.    Motor  temps  are 
200  and  210  on  the  rear,  200  and  250  on  the  fr  - 
forward . 

Okay.    We  copy  that. 

Okay.    And  let's  -  let  me  brief  you  here  on  the 
closeout  tonight,  17,    A  number  of  things  we  - 
we're  going  to  do  here  that  are  slightly  dif- 
ferent.   We've  got  some  stuff  for  you  over  at 
the  ALSEP,  Jack,  and  I'll  get  with  you  when  you 
go  over  there.    Nothing  we  have  to  worry  about 
in  the  meanwhile.    When  we  unload  the  Rover, 
we're  going  to  take  the  SESC  out,  and  we're  going 
to  use  that  to  collect  the  contaminated  sample 


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out  'behind,  the  footpad  there  as  per  plan,  and 
when  we  take  the  traverse  gravimeter  off ,  we ' re 
going  to  want  to  get  both  a  grav  and  a  bias  read- 
ing, becaiose  the  pallet  was  swinging  in  the  breeze 
there.    Otherwise,  let's  press  on  with  the  close- 
out,  and  we'll  get  with  you  as  times  change. 

06  22  ho  11    CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob.    The  core  tubes  are  going  in  SCB-T  - 

I  mean  -  Yes ,  7- 


CC  Okay.    I  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA    You  shoiad  have  TV,  Bob. 

CC  Roger.    We  have  TV.    Thank  you. 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  get       bag  already? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    We'll  have  one  more  to  put  in  here.    I'm  just 
going  to  lay  this  one  over  here.     Yes,  the  big 
one.    Man,  there's  some  big  ones  in  there,  too. 


LMP-EVA    We  can  get  some  of  that  subfloor. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  there's  one  in  my  footpan,  too.     You  see  it 
there? 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  we'll  have  to   

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  leave  that  there  for  a  minute?  Okay. 
What  did  you  say  about  the  TGE,  Bob? 


CC  Okay,    We'd  like  to  take  TGE,  of  course,  as  we 

planned.    Take  it  off,  and  we'll  try  and  get  both 
a  grav  and  a  bias  reading.    You  might  initiate 
one  of  them  now.    We'll  initiate  smother  one  later 
on.    We've  got  plenty  of  time  while  it's  sitting 
on  the  ground  there  to  -  to  do  our  thing  with  it . 


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CDR-EVA     ...  -  - 

CC  I  see  where  you've  got  ...  coming  up  pretty  soon. 

Gene . 

06  22  hi  53    CDR-EVA    BoId  ,  I  already  got  it  and  I'm  in  AUTO.  Just 

about  30  seconds  ago. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    How  are  we  fixed  for  samples?    Here's  5, 
and  it's  about  1/2  to  3/h  full. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  let's  dump  -  - 

CDR-EVA  We've  got  to  carry  the  SECS  up. 

LMP-EVA  -  -  let's  dump  these  -  - 

CDR-EVA  We  got  3. 

LMP-EVA    3  in  there,  the  Rover  samples. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    Okay.    We  probably  ought  to  put  the  SESC 
in  there,  huh?    If  there's  room  for  it. 

CC  Yes,  let's  put  the  SESC  someplace  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Where  do  you  want  the  SESC,  Bob? 

CC  Let's  put  the  SESC  someplace  where  it's  accessible 

to  get  that  contamination  sample.    We  probably 
want  to  get  it  before  you  go  off  to  the  ALSEP , 
but  there's  no  real  hurry  on  that.     We'll  see  what 
works  in  best .     I  'ra  not  sure  where  the  most  con- 
venient place  for  you  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Yes.    Why  don't  we  get  it  now,  and  then  we  can  - 
then  we  can  have  this  bag  -  - 

CC    to  put  it  right  offhand  is. 

CC  That's  probably  is  the   


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Let's  get  it  now.  We  can  get  the  bag  cleaned  up. 
We  can  put  it  in  bag  5- 

Roger.    There's  probably  not  very  many  convenient 
places  to  put  it.    That  sounds  like  a  good  idea 
to  me . 

Okay.     Let  -  let  me  my  scoop. 

Get  yoior  scoop.    Let's  get  it  over  with. 

Say  again,  Bob.     You  want  that  -  I  don't  have  a 
scoop,  I  don't  even  have  a  rake. 

They're  both  gone,  huh? 

Yes. 

Use  your  -  your  Rover  sampler. 

Yes.    They  both  fell  off  when  that  thing  opened. 
Yes. 

Here's  a  full  core  tube  we  can't  forget. 
Yes ,  oh ,  that  goes  in  the  -  - 
Is  there  room  for  it? 

Yes,  why  don't  you  get  that  scoop  off,  and  I'll 
put  it  over  here  in         I  mean  in  J. 

That  was  a  good  time  to  lose  it.    I'm  glad  we 
didn't  lose  it  (laughter)  any  earlier.    If  we 
were  going  to  lose  it,  that  couldn't  have  been 
more  ideal . 

Yes.    That  was  appropriate,  I  guess. 

We  got  two  -  we've  got  two  empty  core  tubes. 
Feel  like  we  took  a  lot  of  them,  though. 

We'll  get  it.    We'll  use  them,  maybe. 


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CDR-EVA 


Back  here. 

Okay.    We  confirm  that.    Please  go  forward  -  - 
Hey,  I'm  getting  this  ...   

-  -  and  don't  have  to  worry  about  bringing  back, 
huh? 

Here's  your  thing. 

We're  going  to  get  this  SESC  now,  and  get  it  out 
of  the  way.  Bob. 

Roger.    We  agree  with  that. 
Okay. 

MinuB-Z,  huh?  You  want  it  in  front  of  the  minus-Z 
footpad? 

Roger.     Sort  of  underneath  where  you  probably 
had  the  -  - 

Looks  like  a  good  place. 

-  -  solar  side  of  the  cosmic  ray  experiment  there. 
Between  the  SES  -  between  the  footpad  and  the 
ALSEP  doors  there. 

Pull? 

Oh,  I've  got  about  an  inch  to  go. 
Okay. 

...  me.    Let's  fill  it  up. 
Looks  good. 

Okay.     And  both  you  -  your  feedwaters  are  up,  1?, 
so  things  look  good. 

Thank  you. 


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CDR-EVA  Would  you  brush  the  -  that  white  thing  off  for  me? 

LMP-EVA  Yes .    Here ,  let  me  get  -  there ,  you  got  her . 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Take  a  couple  over  here. 

LMP-EVA  Let  me  go  past  the  radar.     Good  job. 

06  22  U6  hS    LMP-EVA    Bob,  radar's  built  better.     I'm  on  frame  96,  and 

the  short  can  sample  -  contaminated  sample  is 
documented  by  two  stereopairs  prior  to  that.  And 
the  before  is  the  cosmic  ray  pictures. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CC  Okay.    And  which  SES  -  which  SCB  is  that  going 

in.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA    Number  5- 

CC  Okay .    Copy  that . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    The  SCB's  in  -  the  SCB's  in  5-    That  what 
you  have? 

CDR-EVA  Yes ,  short  can  in  5 • 

LMP-EVA  The  ...  short  (laughter)  SCB.  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     And  while  you're  doing  that  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Yes .    He  can  . . .  your  -  let  me  get  this  -  - 

CC  -  -  remember,  I  want  inventories  of  the  stuff  as 

it  comes  off  the  Rover  and  where  you  put  it  ovei- 
there  by  the  footpad,  so  we  can  help  you  keep 
track  of  it . 


06  22  UT  kl    LMP-EVA    Okay.     I've  got  the  -  we've  got  the  big  bag, 

ba^  T,  bag  5,  bag  h  at  the  footpad. 

CC  Copy  that.    We've  also  got  SCB-3  with  the  Rover 

samples  in  it  on  the  Rover,  if  there  -  if  you  have 
any  -  yes,  you  have  some  of  those  today. 


LMP-EVA    No,  we  -  we  emp  -  we  emptied  those  into  5- 


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CC  Okay.    Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.  The  gravimeter's  on  the  surface.  And 
you  want  a  gravity  reading  and  a  bias  reading,  is 
that  correct? 

CC  Roger.    We'll  get  the  grav  first. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob. 

06  22  k8  3h    CDR-EVA  MARK  it.     Let's  see,  where  am  I? 

CC  Coiy  that. 

CDR-EVA  What  did  you  do  with  the   

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  -  -  gravimeter  -  You've  got  another  big  rock  over 
here  from  the  -  - 

LxMP-EVA    It's  in  my  footpan. 

CDR-EVA    That's  from  station  9,  right? 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    That's  what  I  told  them.     Station  9,  I  got  a 
football-size  rock,  and  I've  put  it  in  there. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  we  eventually  lost  one  clamp.     Let's  see 
what  we've  got  left  on  here. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Gene's  football-sized  rock  looks  like  it 
might  be  glass  coated.    And  it  might  even  have  a 
shatter  cone  or  two  on  it . 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'll  let  you  get  -  - 

LMP-EVA  I  don't  know  what  you're  focused  on   

CC  And  -  - 

LMP-EVA  -  -  but  here's  his  rock. 


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CC  -  -  and.  Jack,  we're  making  plans  here,  to  change 

the  camera  usage  at  the  end  of  EVA  here.  And 
we're  going  to  let  you  take  commander's  camera 
out  to  the  ALSEP  eind  take  a  few  photos  that  people 
think  we  need.    And  Gene's  going  to  take  your 
camera  out  and  document  the  geophone.    When  he 
deploys  it ,  we  will  not  deploy  it  for  the  long- 
term  experiment,  however.     And  we'll  bring  hoth 
back ,  and  carry  them  to  the  ETB  when  we  get  done . 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    We've  got  to  reverse  the  rolls  of  the 
camera  here. 

LMP-EVA    While  you're  getting  that,  we've  got  to  doff  our 
hsirnesses.     Let  me  -  before  you  take  this  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Are  you  going  to  start  loading  the  ETB  yet  or  not? 

LMP-EVA  Well,  I'm  just  about  there. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     I'll  be  rigjit  with  you. 

06  22  51  h6    CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.     I've  got  the  cosmic  ray  in  the  ETB. 

CC  Roger.     Cojy  that.    It's  been  in  there  all  along, 

hasn't  it? 

CDR-EVA    Yes . 

06  22  52  02    LMP-EVA    Mag  Foxtrot,  or  Franny,  I  guess,  we  changed  it  to. 

Mag  Donna,  the  DSEA.    Mag  Echo.    Mag  Linda. 
Mag  Mary. 

CDR-EVA    That's  the  only  fallacy.     They're  not  even 

watching  this.     Come  over  here  and  watch  me,  Ed. 
Oh,  me.     Let  me  have  it. 

LMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute.     Move  over  that  way.     He  -  he 
ce,n 't  -  Okay.     ...  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Did  you  see  me? 

LMP-EVA    see  if  it  comes  off. 


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CDR-EVA 


Nod  your  camera  if  you  can  see  me . 


CC 


Roger.    We  can  see  you. 


LMP-EVA    It's  talcing  too  long.    Just  take  it  off.     Is  it 
off?  ...   


That's  -  that's  -  that  is  almost  ...  at  the  Cape. 
Roger. 


CDR-EVA    Jack,  wait  -  wait  -  wait  a  minute  before  you  - 
Hey,  Bob,  are  we  going  to  need  those  other  core 
tubes? 


We'd  like  to  have  you  leave  the  two  core  tubes 
and  the  extension  handle  and  the  hammer  and  I 
suppose  the  core  cap  dispenser  here.     If  we  get 
back  in  time  from  doing  all  our  appointed  tasks 
at  the  VIP  site  and  at  the  ALSEP,  we'll  try  and 
drive  a  double  core  here  to  end  things  up  with  a 
bang. 


CDR-EVA    Don't  leave  it  -  don't  -  don't  leave  it  there. 
Do  it.    No,  don't  leave  it  there. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I'll  leave  it  here.     You  got  it. 

CDR-EVA    We'll  play  games  with  the  extension  handle,  but 
that's  all  right. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.     Let  me  set  them  over  here.     Where  am  I? 
Okay.    Big  bag,  all  those   


LMP-EVA    Don't  need  the  LRV  sampler  any  more. 


-  -  extension  handles  when  that  pallet  came  open? 


CDR-EVA    Yes,  but  we  can  -  I  can  still  drive  a  core  with 
the  hammer  if  we  need  to. 


CC 


17,  did  you  guys  leave  your  -  - 


CC 


Okay.     Copy  that. 


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I  thinlc. 

Yes.    One  went  with  the  rake,  and  one  went  with 
the  scoop.     Okay,  Boh.     As  I  read  down  that  page, 
it  looks  like  we  got  it.     The  ETB  check,  I  think 
we  had  four  mags  in  there,  and  the  DSEA,  and  the 
maps,  and  the  cosmic  ray. 

Roger.    You've  got  six  mags. 

Okay,  and  -  - 

I  guess  I'm  ready  to  go  to  the  -  - 

Wait  a  minute.     I  want  you  to  do  something. 

Okay.    One  -  - 

Six  mags ,  is  it? 

-  -  one  further  q_uestion. 

You  want  these  -  We  don't  have  -  - 

  Did  all  the  FSRs  get  off  the  Rover  into  the 

big  bag? 

That's  affirm. 

Yes,  ...  more  than  you  need  anyway.     That's  color. 
Why  don't  you  see  if  you  can  grab  a  couple?  Yes, 
ri^t  here . 

Are  you  through  with  the  500? 

Roger.    We're  through  with  the  500. 

Jack,  where  is  the  cosmic  ray?    Did  you  put  that 
in  the  ETB  already? 

Yes. 

Okay. 

I  don't  think  the  500 's  working  anymore,  anyway. 
It  was  working  ...  -  - 


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LMP-EVA 

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There  it  is. 
-  -  I  used  it. 

There  it  is.     Okay.     Film  cycle.    Three  times. 

...  wait  a  minute  ...  Okay.     Okay.     In  go  the 
scissors . 

Okay.     I'm  going  to  go  get  a  gravimeter  reading. 
Now,  let's  see,     ...    There  it  is. 
Okay.     Mag  Karen  is  in. 

Copy  that.    That  sounds  like  all  of  them  to  us. 
Okay.     And  there  are  two  on  the  cameras. 
Roger. 

Boh,  I'm  reading  6jQ,  010,  701;  67O,  010,  701. 
Okay.     Copy  that.    We're  ready  for  a  bias.  Gene. 
Okay. 

Bias,  and  it  is  flashing. 

Roger.     Mark  that . 

Okay.     Let  me  take  a  look  around. 

Jack? 

Yes. 

Was  that  hag  in  there? 

Yes.     It's  over  here  on  the  MESA. 

Okay. 

Yes.  Oh.  Let's  get  rid  of  these  tool  harnesses. 
We  don't  need  those  anymore. 


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CC  Yes.    That's  affirm. 

CDR-EVA    You're  -  You've  come  loose  on  the  -  you've  come 
loose  on  the  right. 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Take  a  picture  for  you. 

CC  Let  me  know  when  they  come  off,  guys.     Don't,  get 

them  tangled  up  in  the  hoses .     Stand  still  ...  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Let  me  pull  it  off  for  you. 

CC  -  -  stand  still  . . .  untangle  it . 

CDR-EVA  Yes.     Okay.    Turn  this  way. 

LMP-EVA  Now  get  the  other  side. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.    That's  off. 

CDR-EVA  Came  off,  huh? 

U^IP-EVA  Yes . 

CDR-EVA  You  don't  have  to  get  it  eiround  those  hoses  and 
everything?    See  if  you  can  do  it, 

CC  Works  a  lot  "better  than  the  simulations,  doesn't 
it? 

CDR-EVA  They  won't  find  the  other  one.     Stand  hy. 

LMP-EVA  Boy,  are  you  dirty. 

CDR-EVA  I  know  it. 

LMP-EVA  Let's  see.     I  don't  know  whether  I  can  get  to  you. 

CDR-EVA  Yes,  you  can. 

LMP-EVA  Ed,  you've  got  your  camera  in  the  way. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  just  take  them  strai^t  on.    That's  all  right. 


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LMP-EVA    That's  sort  of-  ...     Okay.     (Laughter)     Such  - 
such  a  pose.     Let  me  get  a  little  different  - 
focus.     That  looks  good. 

CDR-EVA  Hey. 

LMP-EVA    Try  one  more  over  here.     Have  your  pick. 
CDR-EVA    One  -  one  more. 
LMP-EVA    How's  like  this? 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     (Laughter)     You  got  that  camera.  That's 
the  color  camera, 

LMP-EVA    Yes . 

CDR-EVA    You  take  it. 

CC  Okay   

LMP-EVA    I've  got  to  go  get  a  new  neutron  flux  probe,  I 
guess . 

CC  That's  right. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  yes.    That's  going  to  he  easy  to  pull  out. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Let's  see  if  I've  got  everything  in  here. 

CC  Okay.  And   

LMP-EVA  You  ready  for  me  to  go  to  the  ALSEP? 

CDR-EVA  Jack? 

CC  Roger.    We're  ready  for  both  of  you  guys,  now. 

LMP-EVA  Bob? 

CC  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA  Hello,  Houston. 


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Hello,  17.    Stand  "by.    I  think  we're  having  a 
slight  handover  or  something. 

HoToston ,  do  you  read?    Gene ,  do  you  read  me? 

Yes ,  I  read  you. 

Okay,  IT.    We  had  a   

. . .  Well ,  I  don • t  know  . . . 

-  -  slight  hit  of  trouhle  there,  and  we've  got 
you  again. 

Are  you  ready  for  me  to  go  to  the  ALSEP? 

Roger.    We're  ready  for  both  of  you  guys,  now. 

What  do  you  mean?     I'm  headed  for  the  ALSEP. 

Gene,  are  you  ready  for  Jack  to  go  to  the 
ALSEP,  now? 

Oh,  let  me  see.    Yes,  he's  gone.    He's  doing  it. 
I'm  ready  to  get  out,  and  go  to  the  VIP  site. 
Wait  a  minute.  Jack.    Wait  a  minute,  here.  Wait 
a  minute.    Where  are  you? 

Yes.    We're  trying  to  -  - 

Right  over  here. 

Come  on  back  here  a  minute. 

-  -  we're  trying  to  be  subtle  there,  guys. 

Come  on  back  here  a  minute.  Come  on  back  here 
a  minute.  I  didn't  realize  you  were  going  out 
there  quite  so  soon. 

Well,  I  just  looked  to  see  where  it  is. 
There.  I'll   

What  did  you  -  what  did  you  do  with  that  - 


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LMP-EVA  How  about  one  of  -  how  atout  this  one? 

06  23  02  11    CDR-EVA  You  got  it? 

CDR-EVA  What  was  it  happened  to  that  one  in  my  footpan? 

LMP-EVA  I  put  in  the  (laughter)  big  bag. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Here  we  go.  Jack.     I  -  Here's  one  here. 
Here .     All  right? 

IJ^-EVA    Yes.     Let  me  -  let  me  get  it,  so  you  won't  get 
it  too  dirty. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     (Laugliter)     Very  good. 

IJff-EVA    You  hold  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     Got  it? 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    How  about  over  here? 

CDR-EVA    I'll  put  it  right  over  here  aginst  that  back  - 
background. 

)6  23  03  11    CDR-EVA    Houston,  before  we  close  out  our  EVA,  we  understand 

that  there  are  young  people  in  Houston  today,  who 
have  been  effectively  touring  our  country,  young 
people  from  countries  all  over  the  world,  respec- 
tively, touring  our  country.     They  had  the  oppor- 
tunity to  watch  the  launch  of  Apollo  IT,  hopefully 
had  an  opportunity  to  meet  some  of  our  young  people 
in  our  country.     And  we'd  like  to  say  first  of  all, 
welcome,  and  we  hope  you  enjoyed  your  stay.  Second 
of  all,  I  think  probably  one  of  the  most  significant 
things  we  can  think  about  when  we  think  about  Apollo 
is  that  it  has  opened  for  us  -  for  us  being  the 
world  -  a  challenge  of  the  future.    The  door  is 
now  cracked,  but  the  promise  of  the  future  lies 
in  the  young  people,  not  just  in  America,  but  the 
young  people  all  over  the  world  learning  to  live 
and  learning  to  work  together.     In  order  to  remind 
all  the  people  of  the  world  in  so  many  countries 
throu^out  the  world  that  this  is  what  we  all  are 
striving  for  in  the  future.  Jack  has  picked  up  a 
vei-y  significant  rock,  typical  of  what  we  have 
here  in  the  valley  of  Taurus -Li ttrow.     It's  a 
rock  composed  of  many  fragments,  of  many  sizes, 


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and  many  shapes,  probatly  from  all  parts  of  the 
Moon,  perhaps  billions  of  years  old.     But  a  rock 
of  all  fra  -  sizes  and  shapes,  fragments  of  all 
sizes  and  shapes ,  and  even  colors  that  have  grown 
together  to  "become  a  cohesive  rock,  outlasting 
the  nature  of  space,  sort  of  living  together  in  a 
very  coherent,  very  peaceful  manner.     When  we  re- 
turn this  rock  or  some  of  the  others  like  it  to 
Houston,  we'd  like  to  share  a  piece  of  this  rock 
with  so  many  of  the  countries  throughout  the  world. 
We  hope  that  this  will  he  a  symhol  of  what  our 
feelings  are ,  what  the  feelings  of  the  Apollo  Pro- 
gram are,  and  a  symbol  of  mankind  that  we  can  live 
in  peace  and  harmony  in  the  future . 

06  23  05  50    LMP-EVA    A  portion  of  a  -  of  a  rock  will  be  sent  to  a  -  a 

representative  agency  or  museum  in  each  of  the 
countries  represented  by  the  young  people  in 
Houston  today,  and  we  hope  that  they  will,  that 
rock  and  the  students  themselves ,  will  carry  with 
them  our  good  wishes,  not  only  for  the  new  year 
coming  up  but  also  for  themselves ,  their  countries  , 
and  all  mankind  in  the  future.     Put  that  in  the 
big  bag,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA    In  the  big  bag. 

CC  Roger   

CDR-EVA    We  salute  you,  promise  of  the  future. 

CC  -  -  Jack  and  Gene .    We  thank  you  for  your 

sentiments  and  your  interest. 

CDR-EVA    And  now,  let  me  bring  this  camera  around.     To  com- 
memorate not  just  Apollo  17 's  visit  to  the  Valley 
of  Taurus-Llttrow  but  as  an  everlasting  commemora- 
tion of  what  the  real  meaning  of  Apollo  is  to  the 
world,  we'd  like  to  uncover  a  plaque  that  has  been 
on  the  leg  of  our  spacecraft  that  we  have  climbed 
down  many  times  over  the  last  3  days.    And  I'll 
read  what  that  plaque  says  to  you.    First  of  all, 
it  has  a  picture  of  the  world.    Two  pictures,  one 
of  the  North  America  and  one  of  South  America. 
The  other  covers  the  other  haJLf  of  the  world  in- 
cluding Africa,  Asia,  Europe,  Australia,  covers 


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the  North  Pole  and  the  South  Pole.     In  between 
these  two  hemispheres,  we  have  a  pictorial  view 
of  the  Moon,  a  pictorial  view  of  where  all  the 
Apollo  landings  have  he en  made  so  that  when  this 
plaque  is  seen  again  by  others  who  come ,  they 
will  know  where  it  all  started.     The  words  are, 
"Here  man  completed  his  first  exploration  of  the 
Moon,  December  1972  A.D.     May  the  spirit  of  peace 
in  which  we  came  "be  reflected  in  the  lives  of  all 
mankind."     It's  signed,  "Ei,igene  A.   ^ernan,  Ronald 
E.  Evans,  Harrison  H.  Schmitt ,  and  most  prominently, 
Richard  M.  Nixon,  President  of  the  United  States 
of  America,"    This  is  our  commemoration  that  will 
be  here  until  someone  like  us,  until  some  of  you 
who  are  out  there,  who  are  the  promise  of  the 
future,  come  back  to  read  it  again  and  to  further 
the  exploration  and  the  meaning  of  Apollo. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    We  in  Houston  copy  that  and  echo 

your  sentiments,  and  Dr.  Fletcher  i;5  here  beside 
me.     He'd  like  to  say  a  word  to  the  two  of  you. 

MCC  Gene  and  Jack,  I've  been  in  close  touch  with  the 

White  House,  and  the  President  has  been  following 
very  closely  your  absolutely  fascinating  work  up 
there.    He'd  like  to  wish  you  Godspeed  as  you 
return  to  Earth,  and  I'd  like  to  personally  second 
that.     Congratulations.     We'll  see  you  in  a  few 
days.  Over. 

CDR-EVA    Thank  you.  Dr.  Fletcher.     We  appreciate  your  com- 
ments, and  we  certainly  appreciate  "hose  of  the 
President.     And  whether  it  be  civilian  or  military, 
I  thihk  Jack  and  I  would  both  like  ".o  give  our 
salute  to  America. 

06  23  10  00     LMP-EVA    And,  Dr.  Fletcher,  if  I  may,  I'd  like  to  remind 

everybody,  I'm  sure,  of  something  they're  aware, 
but  this  valley,  this  valley  of  history,  has  seen 
mankind  complete  its  first  evolutionary  steps 
into  the  universe,  leaving  the  planet  Earth  and 
going  forward  into  the  universe.     I  think  no  more 
significant  contribution  has  Apollo  made  to  his- 
tory.    It's  not  often  that  you  can  foretell  his- 
tory, but  I  think  we  can  in  this  case.     And  I 
think  everybody  ought  to  feel  very  proud  of  that 
fact.     Thank  you  very  much. 


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MCC  I'll  see  you  in  a  little  bit. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  babe.     Let's  go  to  the  AL  -  Okay,  Bob.  I 
owe  you  a  -  a  bias  reading. 

CC  Okay.     Or  you  can  get  it  later.     There's  no  hurry 

on  that.    And  we're  off  to  the  ALSEP. 

CDR-EVA    I 'm  going  to  give  it  to  you  right  now. 

CC  Okay.    Ready  to  copy.     I  presume  you've  a  UHT 

out  at  the  ALSEP,  Jack. 

LMP-EVA  That's  affirm. 

06  23  11  11    CDR-EVA  337,  ^+17,  101;  337,  ^+17,  101. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Are  you  through  with  this? 

CC  Roger.  (Laughter) 

CDR-EVA  Bob? 

CC  Roger.    We're  through  with  it. 

LMP-EVA  Be  kind.    Be  kind. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  I  love  it,  and  I'm  sure  it  did  a  good  Job  - 

CC  Well,  we're  not  through  with  you.  Gene,  so  don't 

throw  yourself  too  far. 

CDR-EVA    No,  sir.     I  just  don't  want  to  hit  old  Challenger 
there . 

LMP-EVA    That  was  unkind.    You  did  the  javelin.    That  was 
unkind. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.    And  we  -  - 

CDR-EVA    I  didn't  throw  it  as  far  as  I  could  have.  I 
just  


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'-'^   we  timed  the  parabola  for  that,  and  we  have 

one  excellent  measiorement  of  g  on  the  Moon  now. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  didn't  get  you  a  -  I  didn't  get  you  a 
penduliom,  but  I  don't  know  where  I  would,  Boh. 
Okay.     I'm  going  to  have  to  take  you  out  to  the 
VIP  site   

Okay.    We're  ready  for  that,  and  we'll   

-  -  if  you  concur? 
Okay. 

Well,  let  me  make  sure  I  got  everything.  Okay. 
Remember,  we  - 

Okay.     Bob,  I  guess  you're  reading  me  through 
the  m,  huh? 

Roger.     Read  you  through  the  LM.     You  guys  both 
read  me  through  the  LM? 

CDR-EVA    That's  affirm.     Okay.    The  first  thing  I  want  to 
do  -  Tell  John  I'm  going  to  do  it  exactly  like 
he  wants.    Okay.    The  caaera  is  under  the  seat, 
I  hope.     Let  me  look.    Yes,  camera's  there.  Jack, 
did  you  do  something  with  the  dustbrush? 

LMP-EVA    No . 

CDR-EVA    It  was  under  the  seat,  right? 
LMP-EVA    It  was,  yes. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  want  to  make  sure  it  is  because  I'll  need 
it  out  there . 

LMP-EVA    No,  wait  a  minute.     I  don't  know  that  it's  there 
now. 


CC 

CDR-EVA 

CC 


CDR-EVA 
06  23  13  11  CDR-EVA 


CDR-EVA    Well,  I  want  to  make  sure  that  I  can  get  -  get 
something  to  dust  with. 


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CC  Okay.     And,  Jack,  as  you  go  out  to  the  ALSEP,  let 

me  cue  in  on  your  next  3  houjrs  worth  of  work  out 
there,  repairing  the  ALSEP.     All  right?  Over. 

LMP-EA'A    Oh,  okay.     Go  ahead.     I'm  here. 

06  23  1^  19    CC  Okay.    Nuniber  one,  we  want  to  retrieve  the  UHT. 

And  I  q.uote,  "tap  sharply"  -  that's  "sharply"  on 
the  gimbal,  which  is  the  center  section  there,  the 
little  square  metal  piece  in  the  middle  -  tap 
sharply  on  the  gimbal  with  the  UHT,  and  then  re- 
verify  the  level  on  the  LSG.    We'll  check  response 
here  in  Mission  Control  after  you've  done  that. 

IiMP-EVA  You  mean  tap  on  the  thing  that  swings? 

CC  That's  what  they  say. 

CDR-EVA  You  always  wanted  to  do  that,  didn't  you? 

CC  Yes,  that's  right. 

LMP-EVA  Well,  let  me  see  if  I  can  grab  a  clean  UHT  to 
do  that . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Bob.     Everything  is  zeroed. 

CC  Okay.    And  I'll  be  talking  to  Jack  here,  Gene, 

for  a  while.  You  can  interrupt  with  your  com- 
ments over  -  talking  over  me,  and  I'll  try  and 
copy  them. 

06  23  15  22    CDR-EVA    One  comment.     I  got  a  flag  on  the  other  battery, 

139  degrees . 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Kow  much  -  how  much  is  sharply? 

CC  Sharply  is  sharply.     It's  probably  not  heavily, 

but  sharply.     Fairly  light,  but  sharply. 

LMP-E'/A    On  the  edge? 

CC  No.     You  can  see  that  little  square  metal  piece 

in  the  middle  there? 


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LMP-EVA    On  the  edge? 

CC  You  see  that  little  square  metal  piece  on  there? 

You  can  just  sort  of  rap  on  that  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  yes.     Okay.     Here  goes.     I  did  it. 

CC  Okay.     And  then  it  says   

LMP-EVA  You  want  me  to  do  it  again? 

CC  Stand  hy. 

LMP-EVA  That  was  sort  of  a  med  -  moderate  hard  tap. 

CC  Go  ahead,  and  hit  it  harder. 

LMP-EVA  It  is  level. 

CC  Hit  it  harder,  please. 

LMP-EVA  Okay.     Okay?    I  can  hit  it  harder  yet. 

CC  Okay.     We've  observed  something  there.     Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  might  be  getting  TV  the  way  the  antenna's 
oriented  right  now. 

CC  Okay.     Jack,  go  ahead.     We'll  do  some  more  stuff 

here.  In  the  meanwhile,  while  they're  thinking 
about  what's  wrong  with  it,  did  you  just  tap  it 
again? 

LlylP-EVA    No,  I  didn't  touch  it.     I'm  over  at  the  central 
station  now. 

CC  Okay.    They're  looking  at  it.    All  right.  Now, 

we  want  to  take  some  photographs  at  the  central 
station  and  a  few  selected  -  a  few  selected  photo- 
graphs of  the  ALSEP.    Number  one,  we  want  a  7-foot 
cross-Sun  to  the  south  of  the  ALSEP  central  station 
and  then  a  7-foot  down-Sun  of  the  central  station. 
Over. 


i.MP-JiiVA    A  7-foot  cross-Sun  to  the  south. 


Tape  112A/2T 


CC  That's  what  it  says. 

LMP-EVA    And  then  a  down-Sun. 
CC  Roger.    A  7-foot  down-Sun. 

LMP-EVA    You  might  tell  me  what  they're  trying  to  get  with 
it.     I  might  be  able  to  help  them. 


CC  Okay.     I  presume  that  what  this  means  is  looking 

to  the  south.     It  was  cross-Sun  originally.  I 
suspect  that's  what  happened  here,  the  way  it  was 
written  up.     So  it's  a  T-foot  looking  at  the  -  all 
the  switches  to  make  s\are  you  guys  turned  them  the 
right  way,  I  suppose.    And  then  a  7- foot  looking 
down-Sun,  so  that  would  be  facing  west,  that  side 
of  it. 


LMP-EVA    Okay.     I  got  it.    What  else? 

06  23  18  08    CC  Okay.    Now,  there's  a  problem  with  the  central 

station  -  which  they  think  the  south  end  is  buried 
more  deeply  in  the  dirt  than  they  had  intended. 
And  the  central  station  is  at  the  present  time 
getting  very  warm  on  the  back  side  on  the  south 
side  there,  which  is  -  they  believe  you  probably 
birried  in  the  groimd  when  you  were  trying  to  tilt 
it  to  the  proper  alignment.    They  axe  requesting 
that,  when  you're  at  the  ALSEP,  you  remove  any 
soil  buildup  or  debris  with  a  convenient  tool . 
They  don't  want  you  to  touch  it  because  it's 
fairly  warm.     But  if  you  have  a  UHT  or  something 
to  move  it  -  Do  you  have  a  UHT  with  you  or  some- 
thing with  you  that  you  can  brush  that  soil  aside 
with? 


LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay.     You  know  the  . . .  -  - 

LMP-EVA    It  is  piled  up  there.    That's  ...   

CC  Yes.     Okay.     They'd  like  that  brushed  away.  And 

you  can  give  me  a  call  -  - 


LMP-EVA 


Fortunately,  I  brought  my  handy-dandy  Bover 
sampler  out. 


Tape  112A/28 


CC  Okay.    You  can  "brush  that  aside,  and  give  me  a 

call  when  you  think  that's  cleared  up  the  way  it 
ought  to  be.    That's  prohahly  one  of  those  things 
ve  didn't  think  about  when  we  decided  to  tilt  the 
central  station. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  you  didn't  -  you  couldn't  anticipate  the 
soil,  Bob.     It's  very  soft. 

06  23  19  30    CDR-EVA    Bob,  we  are  at  VIP. 

CC  Okay.    And  Ed  Fendell  is  hard  on  iny  back  to  remind 

you  that  it's  better  to  be  too  far  Eiway  than  too 
close . 

CDR-EVA    All  right. 

LMP-EVA    I  thought  I  was ,  but  I  think  I  may  move  just  a 

little  bit.  There's  a  little  rise  here  I  can  give 
you.     I  think  I'll  give  it  to  you. 

CC  Okay . 

rilP-EVA    By  the  way.  Bob,  the  soil  gets  more  cohesive  with 
depth.    I  hadn't  really  noticed  that  before. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that.    What  do  you  notice? 

LMP-EVA    It's  -  it's  quite  a  bit  more  cohesive  at  -  about 
the  -  feels  about  the  same  down  to  3  centimeters 
out  here,  and  then  the  cohesiveness  goes  up,  so 
it's  difficult  to  scrape  with  the  Rcver  sampler. 

CC  Copy  that.  Jack. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  I  think  you  can  see  almost  everything 
from  here . 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     And,  Jack,  let  me  know  when  you  get 

done  scraping  that  soil  away. 

LMP-EVA    I  will. 


LMP-EVA 


And  now  comes  the  hardest  alignment  of  them  all, 
but  I'll  get  it. 


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LMP-E\^A    Somewhere  about  there.    See  if  I  can't  tweak  it 
up  for  you.    Bob,  the  east-west  level  "bubble  is 
not  quite  level.    The  north-south  is.     Do  you 
want  me  to  tweak,  that  up? 

CC  Yes,  you  might  tweaJc  that  up.    We  are  getting  a 

good,  signal,  but  go  ahead  and  tweak  it  up  just  a 
little  bit. 

CC  And,  Gene,  what  are  you  doing  these  days? 

CDR-EVA    I'm  getting  the  high  gain  set  up  for  you. 

CC  Okay.    Now  you  know  why  we  didn't  make  you  park 

it  in  that  orientation  all  the  time,  don't  you? 

CDR-EVA    Boy,  I'll  tell  you  ...  it  was  a  piece  of  cake 
up  until  now. 

CDR-EVA    There,  I  got  you. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  you  get  -  Bob,  you're  looking  right  down  the 
center  of  ny  eyepiece.     You  -  - 

CC  Okay,  I  don't  think   

CDR-EVA  -  -  you  should  have  TV. 

CC  Yes,  we're  getting  TV  there,  Geno. 

CDR-EVA  You  getting  it? 

CC  We've  got  TV. 

CDR-EVA  Well,  let  me  take  a  look,  and  clean  things  up. 

CC  Okay.     I  guess  you  can  dust  and  dust  and  dust  some 

more  for  a  while . 

CDR-EVA    Let  me  get  this  dusting  problem  out  of  the  way 
before  I  do  anything  else. 

CC  Rcger. 


Tape  112A/30 


You  can  look  at  your  vantage  point,  and  if  you 
don't  like  it,  let  me  know. 

Okay.     I'll  call  Captain  Video. 

Bot? 

CC  Go. 

LMP-EVA    How  close  can  soil  be  to  this  back  plate  of 
the  ALSEP? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  check. 

06  23  23  56    LMP-EVA    It's  about  30  centimeters  away,  most  of  the 

places  now. 

CC  Okay.    That  sounds  good.    We'd  like  you  to  return 

to  the  surface  gravimeter.  Jack.     What  you  did  had 
some  effect,  but  not  -  not  a  lasting  effect.  And 
we'd  like  you  to  rap  even  more  sharply,  more 
strongly  on  the  gimbal  another  three  times.  And 
we're  again  watching  it,  and  we'll  let  you  know 
what  to  do.    And  -  I  might  tell  you  that  this  has 
all  been  done  recently  this  afternoon  up  at 
Bendix  on  the  qual  unit,  and  it  survived  it  and 
so  we  aren't  in  any  real  danger  apparently  of 
destroying  it . 


CDR-EVA 
CC 

LMP-EVA 


LMP-EVA    Okay.    Three  times,  huh? 

CC  Roger.    Or  up  to  three  times. 

LMP-EVA    Bob,  don't  let  me  forget  to  bring  a  dustbrush 
back  when  I  come .     .  . .  _  - 

CC  Okay.     I'll  mark  that  down  and  remind  you.  And, 

Jack,  you'll  be  glad  to  know  that  the  temperature 
of  the  back  plate  there  has  already  dropped 
20  degrees  -  20  degrees . 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  beautiful. 


06  23  25  58    CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  don't  think  that  bubble  is  working. 


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CC  Oh. 

CDH-EVA    How's  your  signal  now? 

CC  Stand  by.     I'll  check.     But  why  don't  you  go  to 

the  -  to  the  surface  gravimeter? 

LMP-EVA    Boh,  how's  your  TV  lens?     I  don't  have  a  lens 

brush.     It  looks  good  from  here.     I  don't  want  to 
use  this  unless  you  think  so. 

CC  Stand  by. 

LMP-EVA    Knock  three  times.  (Singing) 

CC  Roger.     Get  out  of  the  way  please.  Jack,  and  we':i 

take  a  look  against  some  bright  soil. 

CDR-EVA  What? 

LMP-EVA    No,  that's  me  he's  talking  to. 

CC  Okay.     It  looks  pretty  good,  Geno.     Go  ahead. 

CDR-EVA    I  ...  with  the  lens  brush. 

CC  Yes ,  go  ahead.     It  looks  pretty  good  to  us . 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     Here  come  the  raps.     Knock  three 
times.  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.    That's  really  fighting  it  pretty 

hard.    We'd  like  you  to  put  the  UHT  in  the  socket, 
and  rock  it  very  firmly.     Don't  pick  it  up,  but 
rock  it  very  firmly  from  side  to  side  in  all  four 
directions  -  Move  the  UHT  about  6  inches  in  each 
direction  while  you're  doing  it. 

06  23  27  39    LMP-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  I  rocked  it.     It's  swinging. 

CC  Okay.     Is  it  reading? 


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LMP-EVA    And  the  level  Toubble  is  -  "better. 

CC  Okay.    We  understand  it's  in  good  configuration 

again  as  far  as  alignment  and  leveling  is  con- 
cerned. Jack.     Let's  go  on  and  take  some  more 
ALSEP  photos ,  and  let  them  think  ahout  it  for 
a  minute. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    What  do  you  want? 

CC  Okay.    Next,  what  we  want  is  some  heat  flow  - 

Okay.  We  just  got  late  word.  They'd  like  to  do 
it  one  more  time,  and  then  call  it  iiuits . 

LMP-EVA    The  rocking  bit,  huh? 


CC 


Roger.    The  walk  -  rocking  hit  one  more  time, 


CDR-EVA    Boh,  I  may  have  moved  the  high  gain.     Do  you  see 
any  change  in  signal? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CDR-EVA    If  you're  happy,  I  won't  touch  it. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     It's  rocked.     The  shadow  ...  -  the 

shade  is  aligned  to  the  Sun  now,  and  it's  level. 

06  23  29  ^49    CC  Okay,    We  copy  that,  and  let's  go  get  some  ALSEP 

photos.  Jack.    I  think  you  got  some  heat  flow 
photos  the  other  night,  besides  the  two  pans. 
If  you  did,  we  may  -  these  may  be  redundant. 
They're  -  they  want  the  cross-Sun  arid  down-Sun 
of  the  east  hole  and  cross-Sun  and  down-Sun  of 
the  west  hole.    And  I'm  not  sure  but  what  you 
got  those  earlier.     You  said  you  got  some  extra 
heat  flow,  but  tell  me  if  you  did.    They're  both 
all  four  of  these  are  T-foot  -  - 

LMP-EVA    I  - 

CC  Go  ahead. 


LMP-EVA    I'll  get  the  heat  flow  pictures.     T]r..ey  -  One  was 
11-foot,  I  think.    And  then  the  steropair. 


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CC  Yes.    I  think  all  they're  asking  for  is  the  two 

T-foot  stereopairs. 

06  23  30  51    LMP-EVA    Okay.    That's  one  of  them. 

CC  Okay.     What  they're  asking  for.  Jack,  is  a  T-foot 

down-Sun  and  a  T-foot  cross-Sun,  which  isn't  quite 
what  we've  been  taking  in  the  past. 

LMP-EVA  I'm  getting  the  standard  ones,  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that. 

IiMP-EVA  Okay.     You  got  the  standard  documentation. 

CC  Okay  

LMP-EVA  11-footers  and  T-foot  stereos. 

CC  Okay.     Go  ahead.     They  can't  complain  about 

that,  certainly. 

LtMP-EVA    Okay.    Now  what? 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  a  3-foot  shot  of  the  lunar  mass 

spectrometer,  including  the  orifice  where  the 
breccia  was.     And,  Geno,  we  are  observing  some 
degradation  and  would  like  to  have  the  high  gain  -  - 

LMP-EVA  Cross-Sun? 

CC  Yes,  yes.  Jack;  3-foot  cross-Sun.     And,  Gene;  this 

is  Houston.    We'd  like  to  get  the  high  gain  re- 
oriented a  little  bit.    We're  observing  some  de- 
gradation in  the  picture. 

CDR-EVA    I'll  tweak  it. 

06  23  32  15    LMP-EVA    Okay.     Got  it.     Now  what?     LMS  is  complete. 

CC  Okay.     Copy  that.    Now  we  want  to  go  over  the 

neutron  flux.  Jack. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 


LMP-EVA 


How's  the  gravimeter  doing? 


Tape  112A/3it 


CC 


We're  looking  at  it.  Jack.     I'm  not  sure. 


CDR-EVA    Hey,  Bob.    The  panel  you  want  covered.     Yes,  that 
the  panel.     Okay.     You  want  the  -  the  panel  with 
the  -  with  the  ON-OFF  switch  and  the  -  and  the 
signal  strength  switch  and  so  forth  covered,  don' 
you? 

CC  Roger.     And  be  sure  to  get  the  thing  to  EXTERNAL 

before  you  cover  it  there.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    That  was  going  to  be  a  question  of  mine. 

CC  Okay.     That  goes  to  EXTERNAL. 

06  23  33  58    CDR-EVA    Okay.     It's  EXTERNAL. 

LMP-EVA    What  -  what  do  you  want  me  to  do  with  the 
neutron  flux? 


CC  Okay.     We  want  a  photograph  facing  south,  for 

the  7-foot.  So  a  7-foot  cross-Sun,  essentially, 
of  the  neutron  flux  in  the  soil. 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Would  you  like  to  have  the  RTG  in  that 
picture? 

C'C  Oh,  I  suppose  if  you're  generous,  you  might  take 

a  partial  pan  around  to  the  RTG. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  it's  just  about  that  direction.  Okay. 
Now  what? 


Okay.     Now  let's  remove  -  remove  the  neutron 
pro  -  probe  experiment  from  the  ground,  and  turn 
it  off. 


LMP-EVA  Okay. 


LMP-EVA    No  more  on  the  gravimeter,  huh? 

liO,  the  gravimeter  is  looking  very  bad,  still. 
And,  Jack,  you  might  note  as  you  wi'shdraw  Just 
how  difficult  it  is  to  withdraw  it.     It  -  it  - 
whether  or  not  it's  been  seized  by  -;he  soil  col- 
lapsing around  it  or  not.     That's  soil  mechanic's 
goody . 


Tape  112A/35 


LMP-IT/A  Kot  at  all,  not  at  all. 

CDR-EVA  It  won't  be,  I'll  tell  you.     No  problem. 

CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    The  hl^  gain  is  -  the  high  gain  is  tweaked. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  consider  ourselves  tweaked. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'm  giving  the  LCRU  ajiother  zap  here.  Boy, 

I  tell  you,  I  ain't  going  to  do  much  more  dusting 
after  I  leave  here.     Ever . 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    Upper  probe  is  OFF  - 

06  23  36  06    LMP-EVA    MARK  it. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  Bob.     I'm  going  to  put  bus  B  and  D,  OPEN, 
and  AUX  circuit  breaker  BYPASS,  OK. 

CC  Okay .     Copy  that . 

LMP-EVA    And  let  me  see.     Bravo.     Okay.     And  Delta.  Okay. 
Bravo  and  Delta.     Upper  probe  is  OFF  - 

06  23  36  U3    LMP  MAEK  it. 

CC  Is  that  upper  or  lower.  Jack? 

LMP-EVA  Up  -  oh ,  lower.     I'm  sorry.  Bob. 

CC  Copy  that. 

06  23  36  52    LMP-EVA    AUX  POWER  circuit  breaker  is  ON.    BYPASS,  ON. 

And  the  lower  probe  is  capped. 

CC  Okay;  and.  Gene,  you  need  to  close  that  CAUTION 

AND  WARNING  FLAG.     It's  heat  sink  when  it's  open, 
I  guess . 

CDR-EVA    Okay;  it's  closed. 


Tape  112A/36 


CC  Copy  that. 

CDR-EVA  You  want  me  to  put  a  bag  in  front  cf  that  thing? 
CC  No,  I  don't  think   

CDR-EVA    Want  me  to  put  a  "bag  in  front  of  it  in  case  it 
pops  open  again?    I  guess  it  won't. 

'-Ci  ^°->    I  don't  think  so.     I  can't  imagine  why  it's 

really  a  problem  anyway,  because  we  got  the 
BYPASS,  ON  there,  and  that  heat's  not  going 
anywhere . 

LMP-EVA    Okay;  now  the  switch  is  off,  except  my  15  volts. 
Bob,  you  want  me  away  from  the  ALSEP  now? 

CC  Stand  by.  Jack.     I'll  get  one  more  word  before 

we  come  back  to  the  LM. 

LMP-EVA    Okay . 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  I  got  a  camera,  over  there.     I'm  going  to 

look  under  the  seats  one  more  time.  Nothing  but 
a  500  -  Okay.     Used  tape. 

CC  Okay.    Jack,  we're  ready  to  leave  the  ALSEP. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  hate  to  do  that.  Bob.     I'm  sorry  about 
this  graviraeter,  though. 

CC  Well,  you're  not  the  only  one.     The  word  is  down 

here  there's  a  whole  room  full  of  people  who  are 
sorry, 

CDR-EVA    Okay.     I  got  the  LMP's  camera.     Nothing  in  here 
but  couple  of  old  bags.    We  used  about  all  the 
bags  we  had.  Jack,    Not  many  here.     Bob,  I  have 
the  dust  brush  tethered. 

CC  Copy  the  dust  brush. 

06  23  39  57    CDR-EVA    Okay;  let  me  get  one  parting  shot  of  -  one  of 

the  finest  running  little  machines  I've  ever  had 
the  pleasure  to  drive. 


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CC  Okay.    And,  Geno,  some  people  down  here  are  con- 

cerned about  whether  you've  opened  the  battery 
covers  or  not. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir;  they're  open. 

CC  Roger.    Copy  that, 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  what  a  nice  little  machine.  Parked  on  a  little 
downs lope ,  but  at  the  heading  you  want,  and  I  guess 
Ed's  satisfied  with  the  TV  response,  huh? 

CC  Roger.     We're  satisfied  with  the  TV,  Gene.  We're 

ready  for  you  to  take  the  EP  number  3 • 

CDR-EVA    Good  old  Mother  Earth  is  right  smack  in  the  center . 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  while  we've  got  a  quite  moment  here,  as  I  go 
to  de  -  deploy  that  EP  charge ,  I'd  just  like  to 
say  that  any  part  of  Apollo  IT ,  or  any  part  of 
Apollo,  that  has  been  a  success  thus  far  is  prob- 
ably, for  the  most  part,  due  to  the  thousands  of 
people  in  the  aerospace  industry  who  have  given  a 
great  deal,  besides  dedication  and  besides  effort 
and  besides  professionalism,  to  make  it  all  a 
reality.    And  I  would  just  like  to  thank  them, 
because  what  we've  done  here  and  what  has  been 
done  in  the  past  -  As  a  matter  of  fact,  what  has 
been  done  for  200  years,  you've  got  to  contribute 
to  the  spirit  of  a  group  of  people  who  form  the 
aerospace  industry.     And  I  God  bless  you  and 
thank  you. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     And  we  thank  you  guys. 

CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  just  two  little  -  two  little  sets  of 
twinkletoes  here.    There's  a  lot  that  goes  to 
getting  this  Rover  running  out  here  that  we  don't 
have  much  to  do  with.     And  I  guess  there  might  be 
someone  else  that  has  something  to  do  with  it  too, 
and  I've  been  reading  his  signs,  maybe  not  from 
Him  directly,  but  His  in  spirit,  as  we  run  up  and 
down  that  ladder.    And  that's  Godspeed,  the  crew 
of  Apollo  IT.     And  if  He's  listening,  I'd  like  to 
thank  Him,  too.     Pin  1  is  p-alled. 


Tape  112A/38 


06  23  hh  29    CC  MARK  that. 

CDR-EVA    I  meant  the  end  of  the  west  SEP  an-:enna.     Do  you 
agree  with  that? 

CC  Roger.     Exactly  right. 

06  23  hk  kl    CDR-EVA    Okay.    Pin  2  is  pulled.    Still  safe.     Pin  3  is 

pulled,  and  it  still  safe. 

CC  Copy  that ,  and  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Don't  know  what  I  would  do  if  it  wasn't.  (Laughter) 

CC    and  now,  also,  do  you  have  the  SEP  transmitter 

turned  off  there,  Gene? 

CDR-EVA    No,  sir.     Thank  you.     Okay.  Bob,   

CC  Then  we're  ready  for  you  guys  to  get  back  to  the 

LM  and  dust  it . 

CDR-EVA    it's  getting  ready  -  it's  getting  right 

adjacent  to  the  ring  on  the  west  erd,  and  I'm 
going  to  go  back  and  turn  the  SEP  off. 

CC  Okay.    And  when  that's  done.  Gene,  we're  ready 

for  you  and  your  dust  brush  to  hasten  back  to 
the  LM  and  dust  each  other  and  clin-b  in. 


CDR-EVA  You  know  what ,  Bob? 
CC  What ,  Gene? 


CDR-EVA    Great  as  an  experience  as  it  has  been,  I'd  say 
we're  probably  both  ready. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  I  don't  know.     Hey,  Bob,  55  Yankee  is  an 

exotic-looking  rock  I  found  about  5  meters  south 
cf  the  neutron  flux  hole.     It's  another  gray  - 
possibly  gray  basalt.     It's  just  that  there  aren't 
many  of  them  around  here,  and  so  I  picked  it  up. 


CC 


Copy  that . 


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LMP-EVA  Cheating  a  little  again. 

CDR-EVA  Jack,  you'll  always  Toe  picking  rocks. 

LMP-EVA  Oh,  I  don't  know. 

06  23  h6  10    CDR-EVA  Okay,  the  transmitter  is  OFF. 

CC  MARK  that. 

CDR-EVA  I  don't  "blame  you.     There's  so  many  interesting 
things  around  here. 

LMP-EVA    Just  don't  lose  your  brush.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Boh,  according  to  my  inventory  I'm  going  to 
return  to  the  LM  and  the  camera  is  going  to  ETB . 

CC  That's  affirm.    We'll  have   

CDR-EVA     ...  we're  done  with  the  TGE. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  We  need  a  bias  reading  if  you  want  to  use  it 

again.  Gene. 

CDR-EVA    Jack,  come  to  think  of  it,  I  -  come  to  think  of 
it,  I  guess  you  are,  aren't  you.     Where  are  you, 
Jack? 

LMP-EVA    I'm  at  the  MESA. 
CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA    Trying  to  snap  a  snap. 

CDR-EVA    I  need  a  locater  here  to  the  LM. 

CC  Okay;  and,  IT,  we  need  you  guys  in  the  LM  in 

15  minutes,  15  minutes  because  of  oxygen  constraints 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob,  my  pictures  are  taken;  I'm  on  the  way. 
Oh,  Boy,  where  else  can  you  do  this? 


Tape  112A/1+0 


CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

GC 

CDR-EVA 

cc 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

06  23  kg  57  CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 


If  I  had  landed  30  meters  back.  Jack,  we'd  be 
pitched  down  5  degrees . 

You're  right. 

Okay,  what  they're  saying  is,  I  don't  need  my 
hammer  any  more. 

Roger. 

. . .  dust  and  get  in. 

We  want  you  to  dust  and  get  in.  We  got  ih  minutes 
remaining  before  we  need  the  hatch  closed. 

Okay,  Bob.     We'll  -  we're  doing  our  best.  Well, 
that  RTV  worked  on  the  hammer,  but  look  at  it. 
Jack.     It's  worn  completely  to  a  nub.     It's  off. 

I  guess  that's  all  right  -  Look  at  -  Here  -  my  - 
I  don't  know  where  I  am.     Oh,  boy,  how  about 
that?  Okay. 

Okay,  sir,  you  ready  to  go  on  up? 

Well,  I  don't  know.     Cot  to  take  my  camera  off. 
I  got  another  batch  of  pictures  -  tne  LM  and  the 
flag  Eind  -  - 

Well,  watch  this  real  quick. 
Stereo,  even. 
Jack  -  - 

Let  me  have  your  camera.  Go  ahead.  Oh,  there  ... 
there .     Let  me  throw  the  hammer . 

Okay . 

Let  me  throw  the  hammer,  please. 

It ' s  all  yours . 

You  got  the  gravimeter  — 


Tape  112A/U1 


CDR-EVA    you  deserve  it.    A  hammer  thrower  -  you're  a 
geologist.     You  ought  to  "be  ahle  to  throw  it. 

LMP-EVA  You  ready? 

CDR-EVA  Go  ahead. 

LMP-EVA  You  ready  for  this?    Ready  for  this? 

CDR-EVA  Yes.    Don't  hit  the  LM  or  the  ALSEP. 

LMP-EVA    Look  at  that!     Look  at  that!  Look  at  that! 
Beautiful. 

CDR-EVA    Looked  like  it  was  going  a  million  miles,  but  it 
really  didn't. 

LMP-EVA    Didn't  it? 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  here,  this  is  an  ETB. 

LMP-EVA    Let  me  -  let  me  make  sure  that  that's  all  cinched  up. 

CDR-EVA    Okay.    And  then  start  on  up.    We  got  to  get  going 
here . 

LMP-EVA    Yes.    Unfortunately,  their  little  plan  didn't 

count  for  the  fact  that  it's  hard  to  pack  the  ETB 
with  the  film  magazines  in  it. 

CDR-EVA    And  I'll  try  and  get  the  hig  hag,  here  cinched  up. 

LMP-EVA    That  is  a  major  task. 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  that's  going  to  be  -  oh,  is  it  heavy.     Is  it 
heavy.     Something  in  that  core  tube  you  put  in 
there? 

LMP-EVA    Yes,  sir.     Don't  tell  anybody,  though,  because 
they ' 11  get  mad  at  me . 

CDR-EVA    Oh,  man,  is  that  heavy.     Holy  smoley.  Oh! 


Tape  112A/U2 


LMP-EVA    ...  252.    That's  about  three-quarters  of  a  core  - 
hand  pushed  -  half  a  meter  inside  the  plus-Y 
footpad, 

CC  Okay ;  copy  that . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Jack,  how's  that  ETB  coming  !>o  you  can  get 
going? 

LMP-EVA    Fine . 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  I've  got  to   

LMP-EVA    I've  got  to  put  it  on  a  strap,  though. 

CDR-EVA    I  can  get  that.     You  can  -  This  is  all  cinched 
up.     I  think  it'll  hold.    Why  don't  you  start 
on  up?    Then  I'll  start  dusting  you. 

LMP-EVA  Okay . 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Very  good. 

L^^P-EVA  Anything  fall  out? 

CDR-EVA  No . 

LMP-EVA  Okay.  Oh   

CDR-EVA  Let  me  dust  you.     Set  that  down,  and  I'll  hand 
it  all  to  you. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  you'll  have  to  hand  stuff  in   

CC  Okay;  and,  17,  we  -  a  reminder,  we  need  you  inside 

in  10  minutes . 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  Boh. 

LMP-EVA  I'll  do  a  lot  of  Jumping  up  here  in  a  minute. 

CDR-EVA  Your  hack  is  clean. 

LMP-EVA  I'll  get  the  legs  as  hest  I  can. 


Tape  112A/1+3 


CDR-EVA    Okay.    Why  don't  you  get  me  here  before  you  do  that? 

LMP-EVA    Okay.    And  while  I'm  doing  that,  will  you  take 
this  -  I'll  get  it. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-EVA    Boy,  you  got  dirty  today.     I  think  we're  just  going 
to  have  to  live  with  it. 

CDR-EVA    Get  my  top.     I  can  kick  a  lot  of  that  stuff  off 
my  legs.    How  do  I  look  in  back? 

TjMP-EVA    Terrible.    Okay,  tiirn. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  man.    You're  going  to  have  to  -  Your  legs  are 
really  filthy.    Not  much  I  can  do  about  it. 

06  23  53  58    CDR-EVA  Okay,  I'll  get  them  off.     Why  don't  you  start 

back  -  - 

li'IP-EVA  Just  kick  them  against  each  other  .  .  .  -  - 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     Start  on  up. 

LMP-EVA  You  might  shake  the  bags. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

CC  And  don't  forget  your  PLSS  an  - 

LMP-EVA  No. 

CDR-EVA  Do  what? 

LMP-EVA  PLSS  antennas. 

CDR-EVA  Okay. 

LMP-EVA  Although  it  doesn't  make  much  difference  anymore. 
That's  to  get  them  out  of  the  way. 

CDR-EVA    The  big  bag  didn't  stay  closed  very  long. 

LMP-EVA    I  don't  know  how  we  can  get  that  in. 


Tape  112A/1+U 

06  23  5h  30    CDR-EVA    There,  I'll  stand  -  I  can  hand  it  -;o  you. 

LMP-EVA    It  never  had  a  very  good  closure  on  it  -  - 
CDR-EVA    That  velcro  won't  hold. 
IjMP-EVA    -  -  hut  it  can  he  closed. 

CDR-EVA    I  had  it  over  -  over  the  top.    The  latch  was 
closed,  but  - 

IMP-EVA    Oh,  it  won't  hold  with  all  that  weight  in  there. 
Okay,  I  got  your  antenna. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  get  a  high  -  Got  to  cJ.ose  this.  You 
don't  wajit  that  in  your  way. 

LI«'-EVA  I  can't  close  it. 

CDR-EVA  Oh,  okay. 

HIP-EVA  You  might  try. 

CDR-EVA  Get  all  your  flaps?    Okay,  hold  your  head  down. 

CDR-EVA  Yow. 

LMP-EVA  Won't  go,  huh? 

CDR-EVA  No.    Will  that  hother  you  getting  in? 

LMP-EVA  I  can  probahly  make  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  get  on  up. 

LMP-EVA  Oops,  try  that  again.     Okay,  why  don't  you  hand 
me  the  neutron  flux,  and  I'll  put  it  -  - 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  neutron  flux. 
LMP-EVA    -'-on  the  platform?  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Why  don't  you  start  in,  and  I'll  get  some  of 
these  bags  out  of  the  way. 

LMP-EVA    Well,  I  just  -  You  don't  want  to  hand  them  to 
me  up  here? 


Tape  112A/it5 


CDR-EVA    Okay . 

CC  And,  Jack,  for  your  thoughts,  we've  agreed  that 

you  caji  delete  the  tracking  light.     We'd  like  to 
get  you  guys  in  as  soon  as  possible  -  7  minutes 
now.     And  we'll  delete  the  tracking  light  test. 

LMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR-EVA    Okay,  Bob. 

LMP-EVA    Okay,  that's  all  I  can  handle  up  here.     One  more  - 
one  more  and  I  can  put  it  up  here . 

CDR-EVA  Watch  the  cover  on  this  one.     Got  it? 

LMP-EVA  Got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Stand  it  up  because  the  cover  won't  hack  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.     If  you  get  on  in,  I'll  come  up  to  the  porch. 

06  23  51  hQ    LlyiP-EVA  Where's  that  EVA  pallet  that's  always  in  my  way? 

CC  I  think  we  aren't  going  to  have  one  of  those 

tomorrow.  Jack,  so  we  did  away  with  that.  We  hope 
we're  not  going  to  have  one  of  those  tomorrow. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  we're  maximizing  our  efforts,  so  just  bear 

with  us.    Jack's  going  to  be  in  about  30  seconds, 
and  I'm  on  the  ladder  hauling  some  stuff  up  now. 

CC  Roger.     Don't  panic. 

06  23  58  23     CDR-EVA    Well,  we're  not.     I  just  don't  want  you  to. 

CC  I  never  panic  there ,  guys . 

LMP-EVA    Got  some  stuff  for  me? 

CDR-EVA    Yes,  sir.    This  is  not  the  time  to  rush.  It's 
the  time  to  do  it  nice  and  slow  and  right. 

LMP-EVA    Oh,  we're  all  right. 


Tape  112A/i+6 


CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 

CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 

LMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LMP-EVA 
CDR-EVA 
LI^P-EVA 
07  00  00  00  LMP-EVA 


Okay.  You're  not  going  to  like  this,  but  I' 
going  to  give  you  this  one  first  because  I'v 
got  it  in  my  hand. 

Either  one.  Oh,  hang  in  there  -  I've  got  it 
Yes,  that's  a  heavy  bag. 

That  is  heavy,  babe.  Let  lae  tell  you,  that' 
heavy . 

Okay ,  next . 

Can  you  reach  that  one?     If  not,  I'll  shove 
in  further. 

Okay. 

I  got  it. 

Okay, 

One  more  coming  at  you. 
Okay. 

Tilting  up  right  now. 
Go  ahead. 
Okay ,  next . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  112B/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  TRAHSCRIPTIOH 


OT  00  Gi+  10    CMP  Okay.     The  mike  is  cutting  out  on  my  lightweight 

headset.     But  I  -  but  the  earphone  works  real 
good  -  works  okay.     So  I'm  going  to  wear  the  ear- 
phone and  the  lightweight  headset,  and  I'll  keep 
the  other  -  the  other  one  hooked  up  -  you  know, 
this  carrier  hooked  up  on  different  system,  so  if 
I  need  to  talk,  I  can  pull  the  comm  carrier  over. 
But  I'll  he  sleeping,  and  so  I'll  have  to  pull 
the  comm  carrier  over  to  talk  to  you.    But  I  can 
hear  you  is  what  I'm  saying  -  ...  the  headset  -  - 

CC  Yes.    Ho  problems  -  no  problem,  Ron.     You're  not 

breaking  up  to  us.     You  know  better  than  we, 
though,  so  -  no  sweat. 

CMP  Yes.    No,  that's  on  the  lightweight  headset  that 

I'll  be  wearing  tonight. 

CC  Roger;  copy. 

07  00  Ok  53    CMP  I'm  wearing  the  comm  carrier  now.     But  it  itches 

if  you  si  -  if  you  leave  it  on  all  night,  you 
know? 

07  00  05  17    CMP  Okay;  get  the  onboard  readouts,  recycle  the  fans; 

we'll  save  the  potable  water  -  WASTE  MANAGEMENT 
OVERBOARD  DRAIN  -  okay,  that's  OFF;  WASTE  STOWAGE 
VENT  valves  are  closed.     BATTERY  VENT,  by  the  way, 
is  in  VENT.     How  about  a  battery  readout?     ...  Alfa 
is  1.     -  Okay,  OPTICS  are  ZERO     ...     OPTICS  is 
...     Optics  are  stowed.     CABIN  PRESSURE  REGs, 
two  -  - 

07  00  06  36    CC  Hey,  Ron,  we  didn't  -  we  didn't  copy  your  bafcery 

manifold  -  or  battery  manifold  readout. 


CMP 


Battery  manifold?  It  was  1.2,  about.  And  it  was 
that  last  night,  too. 


CC  Okay.     Thank  you,  sir.     You've  just  made  EECOM 

very  happy. 


Tape  112B/2 


CMP 


CMP 
CC 

CMP 


CMP 


Okay.  I  don't  know  when  it  was  0,6  up  there,  but 
I  looked  at  it  last  night,  and  it  was  1.2. 


CC  Roger. 

07  00  07  19    CMP  CABIN  REPRESS  valve  -  I  haven't  kicked  them  off. 

I  think  one  of  them  was  closed.     Okay.  TUNNEL 
VMT  valve  should  still  he  off.    Okay,  it's  OFF. 

CMP  (Humming) 

07  00  15  07    CC  Hey,  Ron.     We  hear  an  intervalometer  going  off 

every  20  seconds  -  - 

CMP  That  right? 

CC  -  -  It's  timed  out  exactly  right.     Do  you  have 

the  intervalometer  running  on  something? 

07  00  15  17    CMP  (Laughter)  No;  I  can't  figure  out  what  that  is. 

CC  We  can't  either.    Because  we  hear   

It  times  it  every  20  seconds,  huh? 


Roger.  Tommy  just  timed  it  out;  every  20  seconds 
exactly. 

I  got  hoth  valometer  -  intervalometers  stuck  to 
the  wall  over  here.  They're  not  hooked  to  any- 
thing. 


CC  Well,  I  hope   


That's  funny,  hecause  I  don't  hear  that. 


07  00  15  hi    CC  Roger.     I'm  sure.     Well,  we're  going  to  get  a 

recording  of  it.    I  mean,  we  -  I  am  going  to  . . . 
to  the  recording  when  I  get  a  chance  and  I'll 
show  it  to  you.    Because  it's  heen  the  last 
2  days,  every  20  seconds,  big  as  life. 

CMP  (Laughter)    I  would  be  curious  as  to  what  -  see 

what  that  is.     I  don't  even  have  this  tape  re- 
corder going  now. 


Tape  112B/3 


CC  Roger.    Understand.     We  went  around  the  room,  Ron. 

And  everyttLing  is  in  great  shape  and  you're  - 
you're  GO  for  sleep  or  whatever  you  want  to  do. 
We  won't  call  you. 

07  00  16  18    CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.    Thank  you  much.    We'll  see  you 

all  in  the  morning  then. 

07  00  16  2h    CC  Roger 

07  00  I43  XX  BEGIN  LUHAE  REV  ^3 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  113A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


CDR-EVA  Okay,  tilting  up  at  you. 

IMP-m  Got  it. 

CDR-EVA  Okay.    Okay,  next.    Okay,  Bob,  we've  got  it   

LMP-LM  Up  here  - 

CDR-EVA  -  -  "big  bag,  three  SRCs  and  a  neutron  flux. 

CC  Okay,  and  we  gather  an  ETB  coming  up  with  two 

cameras  in  it. 

CDR-EVA    ETB's  next. 

LMP-LM      You  have  an  ETB  in. 

CDR-EVA    ETB  has  two  cameras. 

07  00  00  U7    CC  Okay.     And  as  you  guys  say  farewell  to  the  Moon, 

we're  looking  up  to  the  Earth  down  here  where  you 
guys  are  returning  pretty  soon. 

CDR-EVA    Okay . 

LMP-LM      You're  going  to  have  to  push  that. 

CDR-EVA  Okay,  let  me  get  it.  That's  all  right  -  I'll 
wait  until  you're  ready.  Okay.  Can  you  make 
it? 

LMP-LM      Yes,  I've  got  it.     Okay,  let  me  get  that  other 
thing  in  here. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  this  is  Gene,  and  I'm  on  the  surface  and  as 
I  take  man's  last  steps  from  the  surface,  back 
home  J  for  some  time  to  come,  but  we  believe  not 
too  long  into  the  future.     I'd  like  to  just  list 
what  I  believe  history  will  record  that  America's 
challenge  of  today  has  forged  man's  destiny  of 
xomorrow.     And,  as  we  leave  the  Moon  at  Taurus- 
Littrow,  we  leave  as  we  came  and,  God  willing, 
as  we  shall  return,  with  peace  and  hope  for  all 
mankind.     Godspeed  the  crew  of  Apollo  17- 


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CC  Roger,  Geno.     Tharti;  you  very  much. 

CDR-EVA    Bob,  I  am  up  on  the  ladder  and  I'n  going  to  he 
going  through  the  hatch. 

LMP-LM      Gene,  I've  got  to  get  out  of  your  way. 

CDR-EVA  Yes. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

07  00  03  16    CDR-EVA    Okay,  let  me  -  Okay,  babe  -  here  :  come. 
LMP-LM      Come  on  in. 
CDR-EVA    Hatch  look  good  to  you? 

LMP-LM      Still  looks  dirty.     Okay,  keep  her  down  - 

buttoned.  Come  towards  me  a  little  -  there  you 
go.     Okay,  you've  got  it. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  I'm  inside  the  hatch. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Let  me  look  -  let  me  see  that  hatcti  once  more. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  That's  the  last  time  we  want  to  have  to  -  open 
that . 

LMP-LM  Caught  in  the  same  way  again. 

CDR-LM  Let  me  Just  -  I  can  see  down  there. 

LMP-LM  I  can  see  - 

CDR-LM  Does  it  look  good  to  you? 

LMP-LM  It's  clear  - 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  There  is  a  little  bit  of  dust  but  it's  all  in  zi, 
-  I  don ' t  think  . . . 


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CDR-LM  Roger. 

LMP-LM      There  you  go. 

CDR-LM      If  I  can  turn  around. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  I've  got  to  get  out  of  your  way. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  I'll  wait  for  you. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  now  I  can. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  I've  got  to  get  my  hand  over  here.  Okay, 
I'm  out  of  your  way. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     And  - 

LMP-LM      Close  the  hatch. 

07  00  Oi+  kG    CDR-LM      Hatch  is  closed.     Let's  see  if  I  can  lock  it. 

Then  we've  got  to  turn  our  H^O  off.     Oh,  we've 

got  to  turn  our  -  let's  turn  our  water  off  first, 
"before  you  lock  it. 

Well,  it's  locked  now.     Can  you  get  your  own 
water?     If  not,  I'll  get  it   


LMP-LM 


CDR-LM 


LMP-LM      Yes,  I  douht  it.     Haven't  been  ahle  to  before. 
CDR-LM      Okay,  I'll  get  it. 
LMP-LM     Have  you  got  yours? 
CDR-LM      Let  me  see. 

Mine's  off.     No,  wait  a  minute,   I  can't  get  it, 


LMP-LM 


CDR-LM      Okay.     I'll  get  it  for  you.     And  -  before  you 
move  any  more,  let  me  get  over  here  out  of  the 
way. 


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CC 


Okay.     And  pay  attention  here,  17,  when  you  come 
on,  we'd  like  you  to  leave  PRESS  FUG  A  which  is 
the  one  that's  been  OFF  -  we'd  like  to  leave 
that  closed. 


CDR-LM 


Turn  around . 


CC 


Just  use  PRESS  REG  B  going  to  CABIN. 


CDE-LM  Okay,  Bob. 

LMP-LM  Get  it.  Gene? 

CDR-LM  Turn  some  more,  I  can  almost  reach  it  -  another. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Okay.    Your  AUX  water  is  OFF. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Bob  - 

LMP-LM  No,  no.     The  -  the  PRIM  water. 

CDE-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  Your  PRIM  ... 

CDE-LM  Your  PRIM  water  is  OFF. 

LMP-LM  Is  your  PRIM  OFF? 

CDR-LM  Yes.     It's  OFF. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 


07  00  06  19    CDE-LM      Okay.     PLSS  PRIM  water  closed.     Pert  hatch 

CLOSED  and  LOCKED.  Okay,  I've  got  to  get  the 
upper  valve.  Jack.     Move  in. 


LMP-LM 


Okay.     How's  that? 


CDR-LM 


Oh,  that  ought  to  do  it. 


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CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

07  00  06  57  CDR-LM 

LMP-LiM 
CDR-LM 

07  00  07  11  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

07  00  08  20  CDR-LM 


AUTO  and  I've  got  the  lock  on  it.     Okay,  now. 
Bob,  say  again  which  REG  A  you  want  left. 

REG  A  left  closed,  we  got  it. 

That's  affirm.  Jack. 

Go  ahead. 

Okay,  DUMP  valves  are  both  AUTO  -  CABIN  REPRESS 
AUTO.  ^ 

CABIN  REPRESS,  AUTO. 

Okay,  and  I've  got  plenty  of  oxygen  so  we're 
in  good  shape  for  an  AUTO  REPRESS.  CABIN 
REPRESS  breaker  CLOSED  at  l6. 

Okay,  CABIN  REPRESS,  CLOSED. 

Come  on,  baby,  there  it  comes.     Half  a  psi. 
Okay,  it  is  increasing  -  you  can  go  to  CABIN 
on  the  regulator. 

REG  B. 

Yes,  just  the  one  regulator  B.  1.5. 
REG  B  is  in  CABIN. 

Okay,  she's  coming  up.     There's  2.0.     Your  next 
move  will  be  to  get  PLSS  0     OFF.     2.5.  Okay, 
get  your  PLSS  0^  OFF. 

Mine's  OFF. 

Get  it? 

. . .  shortly. 

Turn  around  -  I'll  get  it  for  you. 

I  think  that  I've  got  it.     There  I  got  it. 

Okay.     Verify  cabin  pressure  stable  at  i+.6  to 
5.0  Let's  watch  it  here. 


Tape  113A/6 

LMP-LM      I'm  vatching;  5. 
CDR-LM      Okay.  5.0. 
LMP-LM  5.0. 

CDR-LM      Boy,  it  got  hot  in  here,  didn't  it?    Okay,  purge 
valve  to  DEPRESS;  verify  yoTjr  circuit  breakers. 

LMP-LM      Say  again,  that  last  one. 

CDR-LM      You  don't  need  your  ...  DEPRESS  but  you  don't 
need  it. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  yes. 

CDR-LM      Verify  your  circuit  breakers  -  White  Dots  - 
. . .  EVA  decals. 

LMP-LM      The  White  Dots. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  I'm  squared  away  there.     Squared  away? 
LMP-LM      Am  I? 
CDR-LM  Okay, 
LMP-LM      Looks  good. 

CDR-LM      Stay  at  l6  now,  ECS  SUIT  FAN  2,  CLDSED? 
LMP-LM      SUIT  FAN  2,  CLOSED. 
CDR-LM      SUIT  FAU  DELTA-P,  CLOSED. 
LMP-LM      CLOSED . 

CDR-LM      Caution  lights  are  on,  that's  good.     Until  the 

SEP  -  wait,  ECS  caution  can  still  go  out  when  it 
winds  up. 

CDR-LM      Doff  gloves,  stow  on  comm  panel.     3h,  oh.  Sweet 
music  to  my  ears. 

LKP-LM      Have  to  put  them  on  again,  in  a  few  minutes. 

CDR-LM      I  know,  it's  still  sweet  music. 


Tape  113A/T 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

07  00  11  Ik  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Come  on,  now. 

I  have  never  seen  so  much  dirt  and  dust  in  ray 
whole  life.     Ever.     Ron's  not  going  to  be  able 
to  see  either  one  of  these  helmet  visors. 

(Laughter)     Yes  he  will. 

But  they  sure  do  get  scratched,  if  you're  not 
careful.     Okay.     Hey,  it's  harder  getting  them 
off  ...  than  it  is  getting  them  on.  Maximum 
effort. 

Ah,  I  did  it.     Patience.     Okay,  helmet  and 
gloves  are  off. 

My  gloves  are  off. 
Right  there. 

Okay,  verify  safety  on  the  dump  valve.  ... 

Okay,  I  verify  that  there.  Just  a  minute,  I 
want  to  take  a  double  look  at  something  down 
there . 

What's  that?  Locked? 
Um-hum. 


Yes.     Okay,  DESCENT  H^O  valve  OPEN. 
Okay,  DESCENT  H^O  valve  OPEN. 
That's  OPEN. 

Remove  purge  valves,   stow  in  purse. 
Okay. 

Okay,  disconnect  OPS  hose. 
Oh  boy. 

That  lock/lock  is  just  tight  on  there.  Jack. 


Tape  113A/8 

LMP-LM      It  is.     Got  it. 
CDR-LM      Is  it  off? 
LMP-LM  Yes. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Connect  LM  hoses,  red  to  red,  and  blue  to 
blue.     We've  got  to  do  that  this  time,  because 
we've  got  to  duinp  the  PI£Ss.  Oka^r? 

IMP-LM      Okay.     Let  me  turn  around  here.     Let  me  get  out 
of  your  way. 

CDR-LM      I'll  get  back  in  here.     Okay,  I'm  out  of  the 
way  now. 

07  00  13  03    LMP-LM      How  would  you  like  to  get  off  the  PLSS  water  and 

get  some  spacecraft  water,  too? 

CBH-IM  Oh,  that's  the  next  thing.  Suit  ilSOL  and  suit 
FLOW,  ON;  and  then  we'll  put  PLSS  piomp  and  fan 
OFF.  Then  we'll  disconnect  the  PLSS  water  and 
connect  spacecraft  water. 

LMP-LM      You  might  unhook  that  stuff  up  there  so  you  can 
get  to  your  hoses. 

CDR-LM      I  can't  reach  it  though. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  okay.     I  can  get  it  I  caii  get  it. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  I  guess. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  we  want  red  to  red  and  blue  to  blue. 
We  got  to  verify  these  two  because  - 

CDR-LM  Yes.     Bob,  you  still  with  us? 

CC  You  bet,  I  wouldn't  leave  for  the  world. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  I'm  hooked  up  and  locked. 

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  You  want  to  verify?     And  I'll  veri  -  I'll  do  it 
for  you,  if  you  waxit. 


Tape  113A/9 

CDR-LM      Okay  see  if  you  can't  find  this  one.  Okay? 

LMP-LM      Yes  ...  verify  the  red  one. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  in  and  locked? 

LMP-LM      Got  the  red  one,  locked.  Locked. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Let  me  take  a  look  at  yours. 

CDR-LM     Locked.  Locked. 

LMP-M  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  now  - 

LMP-LM      Ready  for  suit  FLOW. 

CDR-LM      Yes  sir  -  suit  FLOW  on  both  of  them. 
LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Oh  man,  it  feels  great. 
LMP-LM      Yes  sir. 

07  00  15  00     CDR-LM      PLSS  pump  OFF  and  PLSS  fan  OFF. 

LMP-LM      PLSS  fan  is  OFF;  pump's  OFF. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  disconnect  PLSS  water  from  PGA.  Connect 
LM  water.  Boy,  I  never  thought  air  could  feel 
so  cool. 

LMP-LM  Yes. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  the  PLSS  water  is  disconnected. 

MP-LM  I  think  that's  mine.     Yes,  that's  mine.  Space- 
craft  water. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     Mine's  connected. 

LMP-LM  How  about  pushing  on  :;hat? 


Tape  113A/10 


CDR-LM      Okay.     Got  to  see  it,  yes  -  Tout,  I  want  to  see 

it  first.  Watch  your  helmet.  Jack.  You're  going 
to  scratch  it.     Got  it  -  Yes,  got  it. 

LMP-LM      You  don't  have  your  visor  on  -  neither  do  I. 

CDR-LM      Okay,   connect  -  Okay,  PLSS  mode,  CN.     Boh,  we're 
both  going  off  the  air.     We'll  get  on  LM  comm. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  he  waiting  for  you.     We're  here. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  go  "O",  Jack. 

LMP-LM      How  ahout  some  cooling? 

CDR-LM      Okay,  zap  me  with  it,  and  go  "0",  and  then  put 

your  audio  breaker  OPEN  and  connect  the  LM  comm. 
Then  ON  audio  breaker  CLOSED.  Okay? 

CDR-LM      You  read  me.  Jack? 

CDR-LM      You  read  me? 

CDR-LM      Read  me? 

LMP-LM      You're  loud  and  clear. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Next  thing,  VHP  B  -  wait  a  mnute.  You 
get  the  audio  breaker  OPEN,  CLOSED  -  Okay  -  VHF 
sq_uelch  B  LMP.     Okay,  noise  threshold,  plus  1-1/2. 

LMP-LM  Yes. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     AUDIO,  both  panels.     VHF  A  .^CEIVE,   and  3 
OFF. 

LMP-LM      A  RECEIVE  and  B  is  OFF  here. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  mode  ICS/PTT. 

07  00  21  09    LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston.     We're  back  on  LM  comm. 

CC  Roger,  17.     We  copy  you  loud  and  clear  on  LM 

comm. 


Tape  113A/11 


CC  And  IT.     Jack  and  Gene,  we  have  a  couple  of  -  in 

fact,  we  have  three  records  here  to  read  out  to 
you  guys.     On  Apollo  IT,  two  of  them;  one,  the 
longest  single  EVA,  T  hours  3T  minutes  and 
22  seconds.     The  longest  total  lunar  surface  EVA 
time  22  hours  5  minutes  and  6  seconds.     And  the 
summary,  the  total  limar  surface  EVA  time  for 
the  Apollo  Program,  80  hours  kk  minutes  and 
8  seconds. 

CDR-LM      That's  quite  a  tribute  to  the  people  who  made 
it  possible.     ThanK  you,  Boh. 

CC  Roger,  Geno.     And  I  can't  speak  as  authoritatively 

as  some  people  have  tonight,  but  for  all  of  us 
around  me,  I'll  say  thank  you,  also. 

CDR-LM      Your  words  are  veil  taken.     You  know  how  I  feel. 

OT  00  22  56     CC  Hey,  Gene  and  Ron,  this  is  the  CSM  CAPCOM. 

Thought  you  might  be  interested.     Your  buddie  up 
on  -  above  you  there  is  chugging  on  and  about 
ready  to  bed  down  himself,  right  now.     And  he 
did  take  a  good  look  at  the  landing  site  through 
binoculars  tonight  and  took  a  good  look  at  Shorty 
crater  there,  and  noticed  quite  a  lot  of  varia- 
tions in  color.     That  may  be  the  same  color 
changes  you  saw  in  that  orange  soil  and  that,  but 
we're  trying  to  match  it  all  up.    And  Farouk  and 
Ron  are  working  it  out.     We're  trying  to  match 
it  all  up  and  see  if  we  can  get  a  comparison 
there . 

LMP-LM      Excellent.     Tell  him  we'll  see  him  tomorrow. 

CC  Yes,  he's  counting  on  it. 

CDR-LM      How's  America  looking  to  you.  Bob? 

CC  Well,  I'll  give  an  update.     It  -  it's  working 

perfect.     Wo  problems  at  all  and  we  got  good 
SIM  bay  data  on  everything.     The  UV,  the  IR,  the 
lunar  sounder,  and  everything  that  we  -  every 
data  poinx  we  can  see  is  just  great.     It's  -  it's 
just  hardly  any  anomalies  at  all.     Everything  is 
j  us  t  won  der  f-ol . 


Tape  liaA/12 


CDR-LM  OutstaxLding. 

CC-  Gene,  about  this  total  limit  of  any  problem 

there  is,  and  it's  not  a  problem,  is  we're  just 
having  to  stir  those        tanks  manually  because 

of  that  limiting  cycle  on  the  pressure  switch 
there.     We  could  go  back  to  auto  but  it's  easier 
to  go  manual. 

CDR-LM      I'll  be  back  up  there  tomorrow  and  I'll  stir  them 
for  you. 

CC  Roger.     And  Jack  and  Gene,  let  me  make  a  note 

here  for  you  guys.     There  will  be  a  series  of 
references  to  this  throughout  the  checklist  but 
there's  a  general  thing  and  you  might  even  put 
a  piece  of  tape  across  it  if  you  want  to  or  some- 
thing -  rather  than  go  through  an a  call  out  all 
the  locations.     We'll  leave  PRESS  REG  A  closed  for 
the  rest  of  the  time.    Might  Just  keep  that  in 
mind. 


LMP-LM      Okay,  Bob,  we'll  -  I  think  we'll  handle  that  one 
okay. 

07  00  25  26    CC  Gene,  there's  one  thing  you  may  b<;  interested  in 

as  -  as  the  Commander.     We're  going  to  have  to  do 
two  burns  tomorrow  on  America.     The  -  the  orbit  - 
the  mas cons  didn't  deteriorate  the  orbit  as  much 
as  everybody  thought  it  was  so  there's  going  to 
be  an  RCS  burn  about  an  hour  prio:r  to  the  -  to 
the  LOPC  burn, 

CDR-LM      That's  interesting.  Bob.     Are  you  going  to  do  a 
DDI  3,  h\ih? 

CC  Well,  yes,  I  guess  that's  what  it'll  be  -  it's 

going  to  be  an  RCS  bixrn  at  about  LI  foot  per 
second.     It'll  drop  the  -  it'll  ci.rculize  the 
orbit  and  then  we'll  do  the  plane  change  burn. 


CC 


Okay,  and  IT,  we'd  like  you  to  pre^ss  on  reasonably 
diligently  tonight.     You're  just  E.bout  on  sched'ole 
but  if  we  can  t'orn  off  this  Marine;,  we'd  like 
you  guys  to  press  on.     We're  looking  ax  a  nominal 


Tape  113A/13 


launch  time  and  we've  used  up,  of  course,  all 
the  MCC-H  conference  but  we  think  you're  within 
a  few  minutes  of  being  right  on.     If  you  can 
press  on  like  you  did  last  night  we'll  be  in  great 
shape . 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob.     I  never  stopped  doing  what  I  wanted 
to  do  anyway  even  though  a  Marine  was  talking, 

07  00  29  09    LMP-LM      Okay,  CDR's  OPS  6lOO;  LMP,  65OO.     Okay,  Houston 

this  is  the  LMP.     LMP's  OPS  is  regulating  at 
U.25. 


CC  Okay,  copy  that. 

LMP-LM      And  the  CDR's  is  3.9  -  3.9. 

CC  Okay  that. 

LMP-LM      That  might  be  -  I  started  -  let  me  bring  it  off 
and  let  me  see  where  it  regulates  at  next  time. 
I  didn't  have  my  hose  locked.  Bob,  and  it  came 
off  the  first  try.     Bob,  we'll  take  another  OPS 
check  later  on  when  we  stow  them.     We're  pressing 
on. 


CC  Jack,  they're  saying  we  better  do  that  before 

you  . . .  the  PLSSs  because  we  have  to  verify  a 
good  one  before  you  -  before  you  dump  the  PLSSs. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  we'll  do  that. 

07  00  35  16    LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston,  we  rechecked  the  LMP's  OPS  and 

it's  regulating  at  again. 

CC  Is  that  a  steady  k.23.  Jack? 

CMP-LM      Yes,  it's  done  that  twice  now. 

CC  Okay,  and  it's  steady  once  you  do  it.  Jack,  right? 

LMP-LM      Right,  it's  open  now.     We've  been  watching  it  for 
about  a  minute,  now. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  go  with  it  then.  Jack. 


LMP-LM 


Okay. 


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07  00  37  ^2    LMP-LM      Okay,  BoTd,  we're  going  to  start  the  weighing 

process  here  -  - 

CC  Okay  we're  ready  to  copy  -  - 

LMP-LM      -  -  It  might  take  a  couple  minutes  to  get  things 
squared  away. 

CC  Okay  give  us  a  call.    We're  ready  to  copy  the 

weights . 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Boh,  sample  15  Echo  has  a  hunch  of  dust  and  that 
gradually  accumulated  in  my  pocket. 

CC  No  fair.  Jack,  you  can't  go  collecting  samples 

after  the  EVA's  over. 

LMP-LM      Say  -  say  Bob,  right  now  I  can't  find  the 
sample  containment  hag  number  5»     l^umber  5 
collection  bag  will  be  in  bag  3. 

CC  Okay,  we  note  that.     Thank  you.     Very  good. 

07  00  kl  k9    LMP-LM      Okay,  and  we're  going  to  cross  out  3  on  the  bag, 

and  put  a  5  on  it. 

CC  Okay,  I  think  we  could  keep  track  of  it  other- 

wise ;  but  that ' s  fine . 

LMP-LM      That's  for  o\xr  reference  too. 

CC 

07  00  56  33    CDR-LM      Okay,  Bob,  you  ready? 

CC  Roger.     We're  ready. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  bag  7  is  32,  bag  k  is  31.5,  bag  5  is  21, 
the  big  bag  is  71,  the  ISA  is  22. 

CC  Okay,  we  have  those  five  weights  there,  Geno.  We 

have  32  for  number  7,  31.5  for  number  i-,  21  for 
number  5»  71  for  the  SR  -  the  big  bag,  and  22  for 
t.he  ISA. 


Tape  113A/15 


LMP-LM      That's  affirm,  and  we're  standing  by  for  your  GO 
for  jettison. 


CC 


Okay  17.     Challenger,  we  are  ready  for  jettison, 


CDR-LM      Roger.  Understand. 


CC 


Okay  and  I7,  we'd  like   


CDR-m      How  do  you  read.  Bob? 


CC 


  loud  and  clear,  I7.     And  Challenger,  we'd 

like  to  keep  out  the  original  BSLSS  bag,  the  one 
that  you  launched  with.     We  -  we  think  we're  going 
to  need  that  to  stow  samples  in. 


CDR-LM      Okay,  it's  out. 


CC 

SC-LM  Okay. 
07  00  59  30    CDR-LM      RECORDER,  ON. 

LMP-LM  Whichever  way 
CC 


Okay.     Or  -  or  it's  in,  we  hope. 


We  want  it  kept  in  the  cabin,  right. 
CDR-LM      RECORDER'S,  ON. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  don  EV  gloves.     Let  me   


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay,  the  recorder's  not  giving  us  any  recording 
though . 

See  if  I  can't  get  a  little   ...   out  of  some  of 
these  things.     Don  your  gloves.  Jack.     You're  - 


LMP-LM      Why  isn't  the  recording  recording? 
CDR-LM      Are  we  out  of  tape? 

LMP-IM      Be  8  hours  on  it.     I  don't  think  I  left  it  on. 

I  might  have  lefr.  it  on.     I  probably  did  if  it' 
on  now.     I  thought  I  read  it  in  the  checklist 
though.     Don  Arabian  will  never  forgive  ne . 

CC  Shall  we  save  ourselves  some  ascent  weight? 


Tape  113A/16 


SC-LM  (Laughter) 

CC  Unfortunately,  Owen  wasn't  listening. 

LMP-LM      Well  it  was  okay  up  imtil  -  it  was;  just  this 
EVA  if  it  vas  on.  Bob. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Because  it  vas  vorking  when  we  prepped,  I'm 
sure  of  that. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Did  you  don  your  EV  gloves?     And  we'll 
check  each  others  connectors  agair. . 

LMP-LM      I'll  take  my  cuff  checklist  off. 

CDR-LM      Needless  to  say,  you  don't  have  to  put  your  dust 
covers  on.  Jack.     If  that  makes  ycu  feel  "better. 

LMP-LM      Oh  boy. 

07  01  01  51    CDR-LM      Bob,  how  long  were  we  out  today,  T  what? 

CC  Stand  by,  we  got  it  here  someplace;  7  hours  and 

-  7  hours  15  minutes  and  31  seconds. 

CDR-LM      How  many  kilometers  did  we  put  on  the  Rover? 

CC  We  have  an  approximate  total  of  about  36. 1. 

LMP-LM      Boy  this  one  is  really  getting  stiff. 

CDR-LM      Probably  another  1/2  kilometer  on  that  when  the 
nav  wasn't  working. 

CC  I  don't  -  yes,  we  didn't  -  we  didn't  get  distance 

readouts  all  the  time.     We  sort  of  interpolated 
those  distances  there.  Gene. 

LMP-LM  Push  on  the  button. 

CDR-LM  Are  you  opening  or  closing? 

LMP-LM  Closing,  trying  to. 

CDR-LM  You  don't  have  to  push  on  the  button  to  close  it,. 


Tape  113A/1T 


LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

SC-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

CDR-LM 

SC-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

07  01  05  22  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDH-LM 
LMP-LM 


Well  yes  -  - 

It's  not  locked. 

Now  I  know  why  I  "brought  you. 

Jack,  did  you  put  those  gloves  on? 

I  don't  know.     I  was  listening  to  you  for  one 
thing.     Boy,  it  is  stiff  though.     Never  get  it  off. 
. . .  off. 

I  ... 

I   ...  this  thing  down  there  so  it  -  - 
Walt  a  minute.  Tangled. 
Okay,  it  just  don't  want  to  - 
All  we  need. 
Okay,   . . . 

Okay,  EV  gloves  are  donned.     Let's  check  our 
PGA  connectors.     Do  you  want  to  check  mine? 

That's  locked,  that's  not  ... 

Okay. 

Helmet  ...  changed.  Okay.  That's  locked,  locked, 
locked,  locked.     Over,  I  can't  see,  locked. 

Okay,  suit  circuits  shall  not  "be  maintained  ax 
elevated  pressure  greater  than  5  minutes. 

Okay,  we  want  to  do  an  integrity  check  here. 

Now,  we're  not  going  to  use  REG  A  at  all. 

Right . 

Okay,  SUIT  GAS  LTVERTER,  VULL  EGRESS,  verify. 
FULL  EGRESS. 


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CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

07  01  05  ho  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LIvI 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

MS-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 

LMP-LM 

CDR-Llvl 

LMP-LM 

07  01  07  36  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 


Now  you  can  verify  all  that  other  stuff.  CABIN 
GAS  RETURN  EGRESS,  verify. 

Verified. 

And  SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF  is  a  CLOSE.     CLOSE  it. 

Okay,  it's  going  CLOSED.  CLOSED. 

Okay,  PRESSURE  REG  A  -  let's  leave  A  OFF,  and 
PRESSURE  REG  B  to  DIRECT  0^  -  ...   h.O,   and  then 

go  to  EGRESS,  and  we'll  check  on  decay. 
Okay,  go  on  to  -  - 

Wait  a  minute  ...  I  should  have  . . . 

Yes.     Okay,  its  unlocked. 

Okay. 

For  3  you're  ready  for  0^ . 

How  high  do  they  want  the  suit? 

3,7  to  h.O  cuff  gage. 

Okay,  it's  wanning  up,  slowly. 

Yes,  it  could  he  some  warmer. 

Off  the  peg.     Down  off  the  peg. 

There,  you  come  up  on  3.5. 

Okay,  when  you  hit  3.7,  I'll  be  with  you.  So 
you  can  - 

Okay  3.7.  Okay. 

^^ARK  it.     One  minute. 

Okay. 

You  did  go  EGRESS,  right? 
Yes. 


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CDR-Ijyi 

sc-m 

07  01  08  01  LMP-LM 
CDR-m 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

07  01  08  i+6  CDR-LM 

LMP-Uvl 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


CC 

07  01  09  27  CDR-LM 
07  01  09  33  LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay. 

(Laughter) 

Well,  it's  suppose  to  be  possible  to  do  it. 
Hope  so,  ... 
There.     Get  it. 
Yes. 

Okay,  we've  got  another  15  seconds  to  go. 

Okay,  MARK  it.  In  one  minute  you  go  to  SUIT  CIRCUIT 
RELIEF,  AUTO. 

Okay,  suit  -  watch  your  ears. 

Okay. 

There. 

And  17,  we're  watching  you,  and  you  look  good  to 
us.    You're  GO. 

Okay,  I  had  about  2/10. 

And  I  had  2/10,     3.7  to  3.5.     Hey  let's  make  sure 
we  got  everything.     You  went  to  k.O,  then  you 
went  to  EGRESS  then  we  monitor  SUIT  CIRCUIT 
RELIEF,  AUTOi  pressure  is  decaying  at  U.8.  Okay, 
that's  good.     Okay.     We're  GO  for  caToin  repress. 

Roger.     Roger,  you're  GO  for  - 

Okay,  l6  ECS  CABIN  REPRESS,  OPEN. 

Okay,  REPRESS  coming  OPEN.     CIRCUIT  BREAKER,  OPEN. 
Okay.     ...  I  think  I'll  get  this  down  here. 
They  want  this  left  in  auto? 
Huh? 


Tape  113A/20 

LMP-LM  Leave  this  in  auto? 

CDR-LM  ...  just  all  you  want  is  -  - 

LMP-LM  -  -  circuit  breaker. 

CDR-LM  -  -  16  CABIN  REPRESS,  OPEK. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Overhead  or  forward  d\imp  vtilve  OPEN  and 
then  AUTO  at  3.5- 

CDR-LM  Get  that  one  down  there,  now. 

IMP-LM  Okay,  you  ready? 

CDR-LM  Okay,  go  ahead.     I'll  give  you  a  call  at  3.5- 

CDR-LM  Circuit  relief  was  AUTO,  right? 

LMP-LM  Yes.     Had  to  he. 

SC-LM  Okay . 

I2^P_LM  Okay,  going  OPEN, 

CDR-LM  It's  coming  down.     I  want  your  AUTO  at  3.5,  I  give 
you  a  call  my  suit  is  going  up. 

07  01  10  26    CDR-LM      MARK  it.     Okay,  you're  3.5-     Verify  cabin  3.5  and 

LM  suit  circuit  locked  up  at  h.3  end  decaying. 
Okay,  it's  about  k.6  and  decaying.     How's  it 
look  to  you,  Houston? 

CC  Looks  good  to  us,  17 . 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack.     Overhead  -  make  it  forward  dump, 
OPEN.    And  I'll  verify  we  lock  up  . . . 

LMP-LM      Is  decaying,  the  auto's  working. 

07  01  11  22    CDR-LM      Locking  up,  and  the  cabin's  at  1. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  hatch  opening.  Downward. 

CDR-LM      V/hen  I  get  the  hatch  partially  opened,  you  car. 
go  to  AUTO  on  that  valve. 


Tape  113A/21 


LMP-LM      Still  no  good  words  about  the  gravimeter,  huh. 
Boh? 

CC  No,  there's  an  out  -  outside  chance  that  it's 

been  a  little  cold.     And  they're  hoping  that  if 
it  warms  up,  that  it  may  take  care  of  itself  but, 
no,  everybody's  very  sad  about  that. 

LMP-LM  Well,  I  could  have  sprinkled  dirt  on  it,  maybe. 

CDR-UvI  Let  me   ...  to  the  hatch.  Jack.     Still  about  k.2. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  you  want  that  in  auto? 

CDR-LM  I  can  get  it  from  here. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     And  I'll  lock  while  it's  on. 

CDR-LM      Turn  around  over  here,  boy  I  wish  you  could  take 
some  of  that  dust  out.     Get  it. 

LMP-LM      Better  tijirn  -  wait  .  .  . 

0?  01  13  19    CDR-LM      The  hatch  is  open,  Houston. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP-LM      Okay.  Okay. 

CDR-LM      But,  Danny's  [?]  not  out  there,  to  hand  us  down 
the  light  weight  PLSS's. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     Here  goes  the  old  -  whose  PLSS  is  this 
now? 

CDR-LM      Well,  look  at  it,  if  you  want  a  memory, 

LMP-LK      That  must  be  yours  it's  red.     No,  that's  Kine, 

no  it's  yours.     Here  goes  the  old  Coranander ' s  PLSS. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  baby  thanks  for  doing  a  good  Job.  And 
that  was  a  backup  PLSS  too. 

LMP-LM      Well,  that  wasn't  very  good. 

CDR-LM      It  walked  down  the  ladder. 


Tape  113A/22 


LMP-IM      It  went  down  as  gracefully  as  you  did. 

CDR-LM      Look  at  that.     Okay,  what's  next? 

LMP-LM  Well,  I  can  give  you  some  of  these.  Here  hold  - 
okay.  Everything  that's  in  here.  Okay.  That's 
the  first  thing. 

LMP-LM      Okay.  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Let  me. 

sc-m 

LMP-LM      Beautiful  gloves. 

CDR-LM      Yes.     Houston,  I  think  we  ought  to  prohably  just 
mention,  anyway.     We  are  jettisoning  a  set  of  - 
2  sets  of  EVA  gloves.     I  think  that's  worth 
mentioning.    Because  they  did  their  joh. 


LMP-LM 


Just  like  everything  else  did  its  job.  I  jetti- 
soned mine. 


CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  Whoops,  we  didn't  get  them  cleared. 

07  01  15  17    CC  Okay,  we  copy  2  sets  of  EVA  gloves  to  the  surface 

for  the  last  time. 

CDR-LM  They're  very  reluctant.  (Laughter! 

LMP-LM  What  else  have  you  got  there? 

CDR-LM  Is  -  ISS. 

IMP-LM  ...  the  other  ISS. 

LMP-LM  Nope,  one  more. 

CDR-LM  That  it? 

LMP-LM  Got  one  more  thing. 

CDR-LM  'No  wait.     Oh,  is  there  something  ...  ? 


Tape  113A/23 


LMP-LM      Watch  it.     Take  this,  I'll  get  it. 
CDR-LM      Okay,  let's  get  this  out, 

LMP-LM      Okay,  the  old  LMP's  PLSS.     The  OPS  stays  where  it 
is . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Okay,  put  your  -  get  it  down  there  and  then 
put  your  foot  against  it  and  it'll  probably  go. 
The  only  geologist's  PLSS  on  the  Moon.     Good  hoy. 
Have  fun  PLSS. 

07  01  IT  05    LMP-LM      It'll  stay  there.     Okay,  we  got  everything  else. 

Okay .   

CDR-LM  Hatch  seal  clear. 

LMP-LM  Pretty  good, 

CDR-LM  Pretty  good  from  here. 

LMP-LM  Too  bad  we  don't  have  a  broom. 

CDR-LM      Is  that  everything  else?    Nothing  else  here  to 
go.    Nothing  behind  you.    Nothing  here.  Okay. 

07  01  IT  22     IMP-LM      Hatch  going  closed. 

LMP-LM 

CDR-LM      I  know  it. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  forward  hatch  closed.     Let  me  see  if  I 
can't  lock  it.     Okay,  it's  locked. 

OT  01  IT  5h    LMP-LM  Okay,  CABIN  REPRESS,  DUMP  valve,  both  AUTO, 

verified. 

CDR-LM  They're  -  all  are  auto  and  locked.  Okay. 

CDR-LM  CABIN  REPRESS,  AUTO.  Verify. 

LMP-LM  Verified, 

CDR-LM  At  16,   CABIN  REPRESS,  CLOSED. 

LMP-LM  REPRESS  going  CLOSED. 


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OT  01  18  10     CDR-LM      MASTER  ALARM  and  CABIN  WARUING  LIGET  ON.  There 

it  is.  CalDin's  coining  up.  Okay,  it's  increased 
and  you  go  to  ca  -  cabin  on  the  one  reg. 

LMP-LM      One  reg^  Bravo . 

CDR-LM      Cabin  -  . . . 

CDR-LM     Okay,  cabin's  coming  it's  about  5. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  lights  are  off.     Repress  stopped.  Cabin 
pressure  stable.     Okay,  Houston,  Challenger,  we're 
going  to  take  off  our  gloves . 


OT  01  19  51    CDR-LM      Hello,  Houston.     Hov  does  it  look? 


CC 
CC 


Roger.     You  look  stable,  and  stand  by. 

Okay,  you're  GO  to  unsuit  there^ guys . 

LMP-LM      Speaking  of  suits.    These  things  perform  super. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  and  we  can  get  oiir  helmets  off. 

LMP-LM      If  I  can  ever  get  unsuited.     Oh,  this  is  funny. 

(Laughter)  That's  my  hand.  Let  me  try  the  other 
one . 

CDR-LM      Oh,  let  me  get  it  for  you.     I  can  free  here  -  Yes, 
but  I'm  (Laughter). 


LMP-LM 


There.  The  right  one  went  easy  -  I  think  they're 
all  really  getting  - 


CDR-LM      Oh,  and  the  helmet  is  off  and  I'm  throwing  it  in 
the  BRA. 

LMP-LM      Well,  there's  no  changing  our  minds  now,  the  PLSE 
are  going  to  be  hard  to  retrieve.     But  you  could 
if  you  had  to,  though. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     From  the  old  backup  crew 

that  followed  you  every  step  of  the  way,  super 
j  ob  on  EVA  you  guys . 


LMP-LM 


Thank  you,  John.     Appreciate  the  words  Jose".  But 
we  also  appreciate  your  helping  us  get  it  this  far. 


Tape  113A/25 


CC  Roger;  Neil. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  you  know  in  -  in  all  those  things  you  tell 
people  -  Was  that  Cheirlie?     I  haven't  heard  your 
voice  since  -  you  know  all  those  good  things  you 
tell  us  about  dust  and  all  those  other  things,  you 
know,  you  "believe  them  all  just  like  everybody  else 
does  -  but  you've  Just  got  to  come  out  here  and 
experience  it  for  yourself  to  really  be  a  believer. 

CC  Yes,  well  I  take  it  back  about  it  all  looks  the 

same . 

LMP-LM      Hey,  it  -  it  really  doesn't  Charlie,  but  all  those 
physical  things  you  get  handicapped  with  -  there's 
a  lot  of  easy  things  as  far  as  1/6  g  -  but  all 
those  other  things  -  you  know  there'' s  nothing  like 
doing  it  to  be  a  believer. 

CC  Well,  you  guys  did  it  great. 

LMP-LM      Chajrlie  it  may  all  look  the  same  but  Taurus 
Littrow,  mark  my  words,  has  some  variety. 

CC  Yes,  we  could  tell  that.  Jack.     Great  job. 

LMP-LM     Thank  you,  Charlie  and  thank  you  for  all  the 
help. 

OT  01  23  2k    CDR-LM      Hey,  Charlie  I  remember  a  long  time  ago  when  I 

said  something  about  being  down  among  them,  I 
didn't  know  what  it  was  until  we  got  here. 

CC  Challenger  we  have  a  good  word  from  the  old  pro- 

grajn  managers  even  though  you  guys  were  pretty 
piggy  there  in  bringing  rocks  back,  we're  going  zo 
let  you  keep  them  all.     You  only  busted  the  red 
line  by  ^+0  pounds . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  he's  a  pretty  good  guy  any  way. 

CC  That  assumes  your  good  buddy  upstairs  gets  a 

good  plane  change  tomorrow. 


LMP-LM 


Oh,  he  will  and  I  tell  you  Gene  and  I  both  have 
lost  20  pounds  apiece  on  this  mission. 


Tape  113A/26 


CC  We  can  believe  that. 

CDR-LM      Verify  safetys . 

LMP-LM     Hey,  we're  on  VOX  anyway  -  let's  go  to  ICS/PTT. 
It's  safer  that  way. 

Yes,  specially  when  you  don't  know  you're  talking, 

LMP-LM      Okay,  we  came  to  the  end  of  the  EVA-3  prep  and 
post  card. 


CC 

CDR-LM 


CC 


CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 


CC 


Roger.  We're  following  you  to  the  surface  check- 
list. 

Hey  Jack  and  I  are  going  to  frame  this  -  Jack  and 
I  are  going  to  frame  this  page  2-3,  cut  it  down 
the  middle  and  each  take  half. 

I'm  going  to  take  the  front  half.  Gene  will  take 
the  back  half. 


LMP-LM      Okay,  Roberto,  we're  going  to  manage  the  old 
batteries  . 


Okay,  and  Challenger  we're  ready  to  manage  the 
old  batteries . 


LMP-LM      The  old  ED  batteries  are  37 • 2  -  A  aad  B .     I  was 
just  going  to  say  I  wish  we  had  a  broom. 

07  01  30  18    CC  Okay,  we're  happy  with  your  battery  management. 

We're  ready  for  you  guys  to  go  to  low. 

LMP-LM      You  got  -  you  got  low. 

CC  Thank  you. 


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07  01  31  20     CC  And,  Challenger,  it's  Bob.     I'm  going  to  turn 

you  over  to  Casper  about  now,  and  let  him  put 
you  guys  to  sleep. 

LMP-LI4      Bob,  I'm  not  sure  what  you  mean.     Who's  your 
friendly  ghost? 

CC  I  bet  you  can  guess. 

LMP-LM      He  doesn't  know  anything  about  the  LM.  He 
doesn't  know  anything  about  the  LM. 

MCC  It's  never  too  late  to  learn. 

LMP-IiM      For  you,  I'd  believe  that;  for  a  lot  of  people, 
I  wouldn ' t . 

CDR-LM  Welcome  aboard.  Ken. 

MCC  You  guys  make  a  pretty  interesting  show  to  watch. 

LMP-LM  I  hope  so. 

LMP-LI-5  All  I  can  do  is  hear  your  breathing.  Ken. 

MCC  Yes.     Just  noticed  that. 

07  01  39  22    LMP-LM      Hey,  Ken.     You  can  tell  your  friends  off  to  the 

left  there  that  I've  turned  the  biomed  off. 

MCC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

07  01  1+5  32     CDR-LM      Hello,  Houston;   Challenger.     CDR's  going  off  the 

air. 

MCC  Okay. 

07  01  56  32    MCC  Hey,  Jack;  Houston.     You  busy? 

LMP-LM      Say  again.  Ken. 

MCC  Are  you  busy?     I'm  sitting  here  looking  at  a 

couple  of  questions  that  they  wanted  to  ask.  S\r^d 
whenever  it's  convenient  for  you  -  I'm  not  sure 


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just  how  "busy  you  are  right  now  -  and  just  keep 
in  mind  I've  got  a  few  questions  to  ask  you  on 
the  traverses,  and  give  me  a  call  when  you're 
ready  to  talk  aliout  it . 

LMP-LM      Okay;  we're  suit  -  unsuiting.  Ken.     Let  us  get 
unsuited,  and  then  we'll  be  back  -  be  back  with 

you. 

MCC  Okay.     Just  whenever  it's  convenient  for  you. 

07  02  06  57    MCC  Challenger,  Houston.  ■ 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead. 

MCC  Hey,  how  about  if  we  hit  a  PRO  on  the  DSKY  and 

get  it  into  POO  and  back  into  STANDBY?  We're 
worrying  about  the  clock  registers  overflowing. 
And  we'd  like  to  get  that  done  before  172:50, 
or  somewhere  in  that  neighborhood. 

LMP-LM      Okay;  stand  by. 

LMP-IW      Is  that  what  you  wanted? 

MCC  Oh,  we  can't  watch  it.  Jack.     If  you  Just  tell 

us  that  you've  got  it  into  POO  and  back  into  PO6. 

LMP-LM  That's  what  happened, 

LMP-LM  I  thought  you  watched  it  the  other  night. 

MCC  No,  we  don't  have  any  high  bit  rate  now. 

LMP-LM  That  do  make  a  difference.     That's  right. 

MCC  I  understand  that  -  that  you've  completed  tiiat 

transition.     Is  that  correct? 

LMP-LM      Which  one? 

MCC  You  did  get  it  out  of  STA-XDiiY  into  POO,   una  Lh'.-n 

back.     Is  that  correct? 

LMP-LM      That's  affirm.     We  completed  T:r.at. 

MCC  Okay.     Thank  you. 


Tape  lliiA/3 


LMP-LM      Sorry  to  "be  so  urLclear. 

MCC  Hey,  we  -  we  also  are  still  on  yoior  stowage. 

So  when  you  get  on  page  7-6,  where  it  says, 
"Stow  Heaviest  Collection  Bag,"  down  in  the 
right-hand  column  towards  the  bottom,  why  don't 
you  skip  that  step  until  after  the  eat  period. 
And  we're  still  working  on  the  stowage  locations. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

07  02  22  33     CDR-LM      Hello,  Ken.     How  do  you  read  Challenger  CDR? 
MCC  Loud  and  clear. 

CDR-Ll-I  Okay. 

07  02  39  13     CDR-LM      Houston,  Challenger.     How  would  you  feel  ahout 

this  canister  being  changed  now? 

CC  Stand  by.     Okay;  change  her  out,  Geno. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

CC  For  your  information,  we're  trying  to  negotiate 

some  time  for  you  here.     We're  about  one  and  a 
half  down.     We  know  how  to  pick  up  1  hour  of  it, 
but  we  haven't  quite  figured  out  how  to  gain  the 
other  half. 

CDR-LM      Okeydoke.     Well,  we're  -  we're  all  unsuited  now, 
and  we're  about  ready  to  talk  and  eat  at  the  same 
time,   or  listen  and  eat  here  at  the  same  time. 
And  it  won't  be  long  and  we'll  be  ready  to  hit. 
the  sack. 

CC  Okay;  fine.     Ken's  trying  to  negotiate  z:ie  ques- 

tion sessions  for  you  here. 

07  02  h3  52     CDR-LM      Canister's  changed  out,  now. 

CC  Thank  you. 

07  02  k6  oh     CDR-LM      Okay,  Ken,  we're  on  and  ready  for  ^hat  debriefing 

And  you  should  be  getting  Jack's  bicmed  also. 


Tape  llkA/k 


MCC  Okay.     Okay.    Before  we  start  cn  tliose  q_uestions, 

are  you  prepared  to  copy  some  lift-off  times  in 
yoijr  data  book,  and  that  kind  cf  stuff? 

CDR-LM      In  about  10  seconds. 

MCC  All  right,  sir. 

LMP-LM      Go  ahead.  Ken. 

MCC  Okay,     This  is  rev  hh.     Lift-off:     17^  plus  13 

plus  1+9.     TPI:     177  plus  01  plus  00.     Okay;  I'll 
give  you  just  the  lift-off  times.     Excuse  me. 
For  rev  i+5:     176  plus  12  plus  19;  178  plus  10 
plus  1+9;  l80  plus  09  plus  20;  l82  plus  07  plus  50; 
181+  plus  06  plus  20.     Rev  50  is  l86:0l+:50.  Over. 

LMP-L!"!      Okay,  Ken.     Starting  with  kk:     17li;13:l+9;  176:12:19; 
178:10:1+9;   180:09:20;  182:07:50;   l8i+;06:02  [sic]; 
l86:0l+;50.     And  what's  the  present  rev,  please? 

MCC  Okay;  we're  coming  up  on  1+0  -  in  fact,  it  looks 

like  we're  in  1+1+  right  now.     Okay.     And,  Jack, 
how  about  let's  confirm  that  the  rev  1+9  was 
l8i+:06:20. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  I  did  have  that  wrong,   in  the  seconds  - 
two  zero  seconds. 

MCC  That's  affirmative.     Okay;  and  we've  got  your 

biomed  coming  through. 

LMP-LM      Well,  one  -  one  -  Am  I  alive? 

MCC  Just  barely. 

LMP-LM      Ken,  I'd  like  to  believe  that  you  read  that  one 
wrong,  because  I've  gone  througn  50  copies  on 
that  without  a  mistake. 

CC  Well,  I'll  -  I'll  settle  that  with  you  when  you 

get  back. 

I^lP-Ii^      50  rev. 


CC 


All  right,   sir.     And  - 


Tape  11Ua/5 


LMP-LM  Okay. 

MCC  -  -  looks  like  it's  about  time  for  an  eat  period, 

and  I've  got  these  questions  for  you.     But  let's 
keep  in  mind  that  that's  secondary,  and  if  it  ever 
gets  in  the  way  of  eating,  why  holler  up,  and 
we'll  Just  drop  it  right  there.     We're  about  an 
hour  and  a  half  hehind  the  time  line,  and  we're 
going  to  make  up  no  more  than  an  hour  of  that. 

CDR-M  Okay. 

LMP-LM     Well,  I  think   

CDR-LM      Okay,  Ken.     We're  cutting  into  the  chow  and  go 
ahead. 

MCC  Okay.     Would  you  like  for  me  to  just  read  you 

all  the  questions,  and  let  you  mull  those  over 
before  you  work  on  it,  or  you  want  to  do  one  at 
a  time? 

LMP-LM      One  at  a  time's  better.  Ken. 

MCC  All  right,   sir.     KiimlDer  1.     Wanted  to  know  if  the 

blue-gray  rocks  at  station  6  are  similar  to  those 
at  station  2? 

LMP-LM      Ken,   I  think  they  are.     But  I  think  you'll  find 

that  the  ones  in  station  6  are  much  more  metaraorphic 
rock,  or  recrystallized  rock,  than  the  ones  we 
had  at  station  2.     I  had  the  impression  that  the 
ones  we  were  sampling  at  station  6  were  -  were 
really  inclusions  in  the  -  anorthositic  gabbrc  - 
and  had  -  had  been  probably  considerably  meta- 
morphosed by  it  being  included  in  it;  whereas, 
the  ones  we  had  at  station  2  were  a  separate 
rock  type  apparently,  as  I  recall  it,  anyway. 

MCC  Okay;  that's  good. 

LMP-LM      Ken,  let  me  just  say  that  I  -  My  impression  is 

that  there  was  a  lot  more  action  in  the  rocks  at 
station  6  than  2.     I  saw  a  lot  more;  a  lot  nore 
was  evident,  the  inclusions  and,  some  of  the 
patterns,  some  of  the  other  things  we  saw. 


Tape  lli+A/6 


0?  02  52  08    MCC  All  right,  sir.     Let's  go  on  to  the  second  one, 

and  it  said:     Do  we  understand  that  there  were 
no  breccias  at  station  8? 

LMP-LM   ■  In  the  one  -  that  parent  orthop;jToxene  plagioclase 
rock  -  was  a  hreccia  in  the  sense  it  was  frac- 
tured and  was  injected  by  dark  glass.     But  it 
would  he  what  we  would  call  a  mosaic  breccia,  in 
that  respect,  I  think,  and  not  the  -  Didn't  see 
any  station  6-  or  station  2-type  breccias  there 
at  all.     Other  thsm  the  subfloor  gabbro,  that 
orthopyroxene  plagioclase  rock  was  the  only 
major  rock  type  I  think  we  saw,  unless  we  picked 
up  some  in  the  rake  sample. 

MCC  Okay.     Okay;  the  third  one  says:     What  are  your 

impressions  of  the  distribution  of  the  -  the 
familiar  subfloor  gabbros  throughout  the  EVA-3 
traverse? 

LMP-LM      Well,   I  don't  -  I  don't  -  I  think  we  discussed 

that  a  little  bit  on  the  traveri^e  -  quite  a  bit, 
as  a  matter  of  fact.     The  impreijsion  I  had  was 
that  most  of  the  traverse  on  the  plains,  with 
the  one  exception  of  -  of  Van  Serg  Crater,  were 

-  We  were  in  box  fields  or  fragrient  fields  that 
were  almost  -  well,  were  dominately  subfloor. 
And  visually  from  the  Rover,   I  had  no  impression 
of  any  other  significant  rock  tj^e,  with  the 
exception  of  occasional  blocks  of  the  gray  variety 
of  the  subfloor  gabbro.     And  I  don't  know  -  Gene 

-  I  don't  know  what  Gene's  impression  was.  He  was 
driving  a  lot,  but  -  pass  it  on. 


CDR-LM 


I  think  -  we  actually  even  commented  when  we  hi-., 
the  bresiking  slope  coming  back  out  of  station  6 
and  7,  and  then  back  off  ax  -  coming  bacK  dowri  at 
8  -  how  the  terrain  features  chsjiged.     I  think 
that  was  due  principally  to  the  -  to  the  -  what 
we've  been  calling  the  subfloor  material  evident. 
And  there  again,   it  was,  what  I  would  say.^  par- 
ticularly mantled,   filleted,  much  like  we  nave 
here  where  the  LM  is,  with  the  exception  of  Van 
Serg,  where  we  actually  saw  fra^^nental  bc-L^ders 
for  the  most  part,  a  lot  less  b-.,j-ied  six-cin^  on 
the  surface. 


Tape  IIUa/7 


MCC  All  right,  sir.     At  Van  Serg,  some  rocks  were' 

described,  as  gray  breccias,  and  some  contained 
white  fragments.     Was  there  a  variety  of  breccias 
present? 

LMP-IiM      I  think  -  I  think  not.  Ken.     My  impression  was 
that  there  was  a  variety  only  in  their  -  in  the 
degree  to  which  they  were  fractured.     We  found 
and  sampled,  I  think,  the  two  major  -  one  extreme 
-  extremely  fractured  rock  that  I  said  was  - 
was  friable.     Anyway,  it  broke  into  small  pieces 
very  easily  with  a  hammer  or  in  your  hand,  if  you 
worked  at  it.     And  the  other  was  a  breccia  that 
was  not  -  was  much  more  cohesive  than  that.  It 
was  not  fractured  or  friable  at  all,  but  they 
both  were  on  the  rim,  and  I  think  they  were  just 
varieties  of  —  probably  of  shock  fracturing. 

MCC  Okay.     Could  the  Van  Serg  breccias  correlate  with 

the  blue-gray  material  at  Cochise? 

07  02  56  ho     IMP-LM      That's  possible,  I  guess.     But  my  first  guess 

would  be  that  the  blue-gray  at  Cochise  was  blue- 
gray  subfloor.     And,  well,   I  don't  know.  That's 
a  good  question.     That's  a  good  question.     We  - 
Maybe  with  the  pictures  we  have,  we  can  work  out 
the  -  an  attitude  -  approximate  attitude  on  that 
contact  that  I  talked  about  in  Cochise,  and  see 
if  it  would  project  over  reasonably  to  Van  Serg. 
I  wouldn't  be  surprised  if  it  would.     That's  a 
good  -  that's  a  good  point.     To  me  they  looked 
very  similar. 

MCC  Okay.     And  you  guys  sure  you're  eating? 

IMP-LM      But  -  but  -  Ken,  Ken,  Ken   

MCC  Go  ahead. 

CDR-LM      Yes,  we're  eating.     We're  fixing  and  eating  at 
the  same  time. 

CC  You're  mighty  efficient.     Go  ahead.     You  were 

starting  to  say  something, 

LMF-LM      You  just  -  yes.  Ken.     I  think  from  a  distance 
we  saw  the  blue-gray  in  Cochise,  you  couldn't 


Tape  114A/8 


make  a  definite  correlation.     But  it's  a  good 
idea  and  ought  to  be  considered  as  one  of  the 
possibilities.     The  other  is  that  ve  Just  had  a 
vindow  in  the  sub  floor  that  coiiici  dentally  -  I 
mean  one  underneath  the  subfloor  might  be  that 
breccia.     Oh,  incidentally  -  the  Van  Serg  impact 
hit  that  window. 

MCC  Okay,     Can  you  tell  us  anything  about  the  cowpie 

at  Van  Serg.     Was  that  a  clast  in  the  breccia? 

LMP-LM      Negative.     It  was  a  -  excuse  me;    I  have  my  mouth 
full. 

MCC  It's  about  time. 

LMP-LM      It  was  an  ag  -  it  was  an  aggregeite  of  irregular  - 
looked  like  agglutinated  glass  in  fragments  Just 
sitting  on  the  rim  of  Van  Serg.     And  the  reason 
I  said  I  thought  it  was  in  place  or  had  -  had 
fallen  there  and  crystallized  tliere,  is  that 
there  were  four  or  five  similar  fragments  arranged 
in  a  small  coherent  area.     Not  making  that  very 
clear  I  don't  think,  but  it  looks  as  if  it  hit 
and  broke  apart  upon  hitting  a  ].ittle  bit  but 
didn't  -  didn't  really  splatter  or  -  or  break 
apart  in  any  significant  manner. 

MCC  All  right. 

LMP-LM      There  are  similar  things  -  I  tell  you  what  it  looks 
like.     If  anybody 'd  walked  up  tlr.e  rim  of  Kilauea 
Iki  in  the  ash  out  there,  and  or.  top  of  the  ash, 
there  are  bombs  that  were  fairlj-  clearly  molten 
when  they  hit,  and  they  had  Just  -  just  enough 
spring  to  break,  when  they  hit.     But  they  -  the 
individual  pieces  didn't  move  very  far  at  all. 
And  you  can  see  that  pattern  on  Kilauea  Iki. 
And  it  was  the  same  kind  of  thing,  except  that 
there  was  no  directional  aspect  of  it  here. 

MCC  Okay. 


LMP-LM 


And  that's  not  to  say  it's  volcsnic  gl^ase.  Tha-.  '  3 
;"ust  the  kind  of  pattern  it  was. 


Tape  114a/9 


MCC  Okay.     Can  you  tell  us  if  the  darker  material 

in  the  bottom  of  Van  Serg  was  similar  to  the 
collected  rim  material? 

07  03  00  52     LMP-LM      I  think  so,  except  as  Gene  pointed  out,  the 

clasts  were  coarser.     They  were  coarser  in  the 
"bottom  than  ahout  anything  we  saw  in  the  rim. 

MCC  Okay.     Are  there  any  distinctive  features,  other 

than  color,  to  separate  tan  from  blue-gray 
breccias,   such  as  joining,  or  massive  nature, 
continuity,  anything  of  that  nature? 

LMP_LI4      Yes,  we're  

CDR-LM      Where  did  we  find  those  tan  breccias? 

CC  Challenger,  this  is  Bob.     I  think  we  were  talking 

about  some  of  them,  I  think,  at  station  1  the 
first  night.     We  had  both  natures.     In  fact,  I 
think  we  had  -  Didn't  we  have  two  of  those  in 
the  same  rock  together? 

LMP-LM      They  were  both  gabbros. 

CC  Yes,  excuse  me  -  - 

07  03  01  57    LMP-LM      Bob,  they  were  tan  gabbros  and  blue-gray  gabbros. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  115A/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


07  03  02  52     CC  Roger.     Okay,  yesterday,  excuse  me,  I  wasn't 

reading  the  q^uestion.     Okay,  the  breccias  -  they 
were  tan  and  blue- gray  breccias  yesterday  at  sta- 
tion 2,  were  not  -  were  there  not?     You  have  the 
two  type  -  types  of  breccias  at  station  2. 

LMP-LM      Oh  well,  yes,  yes,  that's  right.     And  now  as  I 
think  back  I  guess  that's  the  main  difference 
between  the  tan  rocks  at  station  2  and  station  6, 
but  the  ones  at  6  appear  to  be  -  have  an  igneous 
texture  or  at  least  a  very  crystalline  texture 
and  inclusion-like  masses  of  other  rocks.  Where- 
as, the  ones  at  station  2  they  -  they  seem  to  be 
fragment  breccias,  as  I  recall.     That's  right, 
although  they  may  have  been  recrystallized  or 
metamorphosed,  they  were  clearly  breccias  at 
station  2.     I  just  forgot  about  that. 

07  03  03  00    CC  Okay,  copy  that.     Okay,  and  can  you  amplify  your 

description  going  out  to  station  6.     In  particular 
were  there  blue-gray  and  tan-gray  bands  on  the 
North  Massif? 

LMP-LM      Rather  than  bands,  there  were  lines  that  appeared 
to  be  the  upper  terminus  of  the  -  of  the  source 
of  the  boulders  that  were  strewn  below  that  line. 
And  those  lines  tended  to  be  either  -  show  a  blue- 
gray  source  or  a  tan-gray  source,   if  you  will. 

LMP-LM      Oh,  those   . . . 

CC  Challenger,   if  you  -  if  you  think  you're  talking 

to  us,  you're  breaking  up  badly. 

07  03  Oi+  lit    LMP-LM      I  Just  thought  you  might  be  interested,  we  just 

had  a  little  spurt  of  dust  come  up  by  the  window. 

CC  Was  there  a  sleigh  with  it? 

LMP-IjM      Wise  guy. 

CC  Okay.     Did  you  see  very  much  of  dusT; ,  or  was  it 

just  one  little  shot? 


Tape  115A/2 


LMP-LM      Can  I  -  one  little  shot,  it  was  actually  ^ust 
particles.     Something  we  threw  out  must  have 
popped. 

CC  Okay,  do  you  have  any  preliminary  stratigraphic 

sequence  for  the  plains? 

LMP-m      For  the  plains,  huh?     VJell ,  my  gaess  would  he  that 
the  Van  Serg  breccias  were  the  oldest  rocks.  The 
gahhro  -  subfloor  gabbro's  the  next  oldest,  and 
the  mantling  material's  the  youngest.     But  that's  - 
the  only  good  clear  relationship  was  mantle  on 
top  of  the  subfloor  gabbros .     I  -  we  really  don't 
have  a  good  relationship  of  the  breccias  and  T 
Just  -  I  guess  I  lean  towards  thinking  that  that 
Van  Serg  was  a  window  in  the  subfloor  rather  than 
being  a  bed  of  some  kind,  on  top  of  the  subfloor. 

07  03  06  11     CC  Okay,  and  do  you  have  an  opinion  on  what  underlies 

the  Sculptured  Hills? 

LMP-LM      Well,  I  think,  we  said  -  the  rake  sample  is  prob- 
ably going  to  tell  the  tale  there.     My  g^aess  is 
from  the  boulder  -  boulders  and  subfloor  around 
up  there  that  -  are  of  gabbro  and  maybe  the  Sculp- 
t\ired  Hills  are  a  version  of  the  subfloor  rock. 
I  don't  think  that  the  orthopyroxene  anorthosite 
rock  was  necessarily  indigenous  -zo  the  Sculptured 
Hills.     It  was  glass-coated  and  permeated  by  glass 
so  I  suspect  it  may  have  been  thrown  there  by  an 
impact  somewhere  else. 

CC  All  right  sir,  we've  got  one  las-;  thing  for  you  to 

clean  up.     Back  on  page  7-6  of  your  checklist,  it 
looks  like  we  may  have  skipped  some  steps  on  tl'.e 
GAS  RETURU  valve,  and  like  to  malce  sure  tiiat  you 
get  to  AUTO  and  the  GAS  DIVESTER  PUSHED  to  CABIh 
before  you  stow  the  oxygen  hoses  . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Ken,  we  got  CABIN  GAS  RETUI^N,  AUTO. 

CC  Okay,  understand  AUTO  and  you  got  the  select  to 

CABIN? 

07  03  08  10    LMP-LM      Yes,  GAS  DIVEP.T3R  pushed  to  CABIIC  and  we're  trying 

the  PGAs  now. 


Tape  115A/3 


CC  All  right,  sir. 

CDR-LM      And  I  guess  if  -  if  you  could  go  in  -  i^y  feeling 
is  if  you  go  to  the  bottom  of  every  one  of  those 
large  craters  like  Camelot ,  you  could  examine 
some  of  these  fragments  on  the  walls  and  down  into 
the  bottom,  I  just  get  a  feeling  you'd  find  this  - 
this  blue-gray  breccia  down  there. 

CC  All  right,  sir. 

CDR-LM      I  mean  in  all  the  big  craters  like  Camelot. 

LMP-LM      Well  we  -  I  think  maybe  that's  true,  however,  we 
did  not  see  isolated  fragments  of  it  very  often, 
if  at  all,  out  here  on  the,  the  plains  themselves, 
away  from  the  craters.     So  if  the  blue-gray  breccia 
does  -  the  Van  Serg  breccia  does  underlie  the  sub- 
floor,  the  craters  are  not  -  it's  far  enough  that 
the  craters  we  have  apparently  have  not  penetrated 
and  brought  up  much  of  that  kind  of  material. 
Well  that's  it. 

07  03  09  1+5    CC  Okay  guys,  it's  time  to  press  on  and  finish  up 

chow  time  and  I've  got  your  stowage  summaries 
whenever  you're  ready  for  that,  to  get  started  on. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Ken  let  us  finish  eating,  then  we'll  go 
back  to  work. 

CC  Okay,  give  me  a  call  when  you're  ready. 

OT  03  10  IT     LMP-LM      I'll  help  you  in  just  a  second. 

07  03  lU  10     LMP-LM      Okay.     Okay.     Ken  I'd  like  to  go  ahead  and  hear 

your  recommendations  on  stowage  and  I'll  write 
it  down . 

CC  Roger.     Page  2-2.     I've  got  fiome  numbers  filj 

in  at  the  bottom  under  the  collection  ba;-  L-towa,ve . 


LMP-LM 


Okay ,  I ' ve  got  it . 


Tape  115A/1+ 


CC 


LMP-LM 


CC 

07  03  15  2k  LMP-LM 
07  03  18  57  CC 


07  03  19  12  LMP-LM 
07  03  1+3  25  CDR-LM 

07  03  h8  03  IMP-LM 

07  03  kQ  15  CC 
07  03  51  36  CDR-LM 
07  03  51  hh  CC 
07  Oh  Ok  15  CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 


Okay,  niimter  1  with  the  aft  engine  cover  is  ba,-  S. 
And.  then  the  second  line,  it's  bag  7.     Tl:e  third 
line  it's  bag  6  left  hand  and  5  right  hand.  Ajid 
the  last  line  is  bag  2  and  k.     And  you  can  dis- 
regard the  max  weights. 

Okay,  just  so  we  got  it  straight  aft  engine  cover, 
bag  8.     Left  hand  side,  bag  7.     Left  hand  plus  the 
right  hand  side;  niiraber  6  left  mnd  and  5  right. 
And  the  ISA  bags  2  and  k. 

That's  affirmative. 

Okay. 

Hey,  Jack,  the  people  down  here  watching  things 
noticed  that  your  SUIT  ISOL  valve  is  still  in 
DISCOMECT  if  you're  trying  to  dry  the  suit  out 
you  might  check  that .     It '  s  your  opt  ion  what  yo\i 
want  to  do  with  it. 

I'm  glad  somebody  is  watching  things.     Thank  you. 

Ken  we're  in  the  process  of  getting  all  these 
bags  in  the  proper  places,  now. 

Ken,  this  is  Jack,  why  don't  you  make  a  note  that 
mag  Bravo  is  empty,  with  miscellaneous  photos 
since  the  last  report  on  it. 

Okay . 

And,  Ken,  we're  stowing  mag  Nancy  at  a  reading  153. 
Okay,  copy  153. 
Houston,  Challenger. 
Go  ahead,  Geno. 

Okay,  Ken  we're  -  all  we've  got  left  zo  szov  r.ow 
is  the  buddy  SLSS  bag  and  that's  in  work.     And  we 
got  all  the  ETB  stuff  taken  care  of.     All  t;he 
ether  bags  are  stowed  per  your  recoimendation . 
We'll  be  configuring  the  ECS  for  sleep  and  putting 


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up  the  hammocks  here  shortly  and  as  soon  as  we 
can  get  cleaned  up  personally  a  little  bit,  we'll 
he  in  the  sack. 

CC  Okay .     So\ands  great . 

CC  Hey,  Geno,  the  guys  are  looking  at  that  buddy 

SLSS  bag  and  suggested  you  all  make  sure  that 
you're  going  to  have  room  to  do  the  equipment 
jettison  and  get  the  hatch  open  and  all  that. 
They  had  planned  on  stowing  it  the  next  day. 

CDR-LM      That's  a  good  thought,  Ken.     Thank  you,  Ed.  The 
fact  is  that  probably  may  think  more  convenient  - 
we  were  going  to  be  smart  and  get  ahead  here  but , 
thank  you. 

CC  The  faster  I  run,  the  behinder  I  get . 

CDR-LM      Yes.     I  keep  forgetting  these  checklists  have  been 
exercised  a  hundred  thousand  times. 

07  Ok  06  50    CC  Yes,  we  keep  remembering  that. 

07  oh  11  06     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     If  you'll  just  give  us  a 

call  when  you're  ready  to  sack  out  we  won't  bother 
you  and  just  that  way  we  can  keep  track  of  what 
you're  doing  and  when  you're  about  ready  to  go 
to  bed  and  we'll  get  you  up  at  an  appropriate  time. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Ken,  this  is  Jack.     I  guess  I  have  the  duty 
biomed  tonight,  so  I'll  give  you  a  call  when  we're 
turning  out  the  lights. 

CC  Okay. 

IMP-LM      And  it  won't  be  too  long. 

07  ok  11  33     CC  All  right.     You  guys  are  doing  pretty  good.  You're 

almost  caught  up. 

LMP-3LM      Hey,  Ken,  working  through  this  thing,  we  haven 'x 
been  able  to  find  instructions  for  the  stowage  of 
the  E\''  gloves.     Do  your  friends  back  there  have  any 
recommendations? 


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CC  Okay,  stand  by  one  and  I'll  check  on  that. 

07  OU  Ih  13    CC  Okay,  Jack,  we  can  stick  those  i:hings  on  "Che  comrn 

panel  for  now ,  and  then  tomor  !rov  on  p3.^G  it's 
going  to  have  you  stow  them  in  i:he  LF/A  hags  hut 
for  the  time  being  if  you  just  stick  those  up  on 
the  panel,  set  them  aside  -  you'll  use  them 
tomorrow. 

IMP-IM      Okay,  Ken  got  you.     Yes,  they're  going  to  get  the 
inside  of  the  LEVA  pretty  dirty. 

07  OU  Ih  59    CC  Well,  from  what  we've  seen.  Jack.     I  think  every- 

thing's going  to  he  ahout  the  same  color  by  the 
time  you  get  through. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  it  didn't  bother  your  -  your  EVA,  did  it 
Ken,  to  have  a  little  dust  in  your  helmet? 

CC  No,  no  -  that's  kind  of  nice  to  have. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  an  experienced  fellow  like  you  might  have  a 
recommendation  on  how  to  get  my  visor  up. 

.  CC  Yes,  give  it  to  the  CMP. 

CC  We  were  just  debating  down  here  how  come  you  guys 

threw  away  those  nice  clean  gloves  and  kept  the 
dirty  ones . 

LMP-LM      I  wish  you  hadn't  ask  that  Pete.     (Laughter)  We 
were  just  debating  that  too. 

CC  How  long  are  your  arms,  Jack. 

LMP-LM      You  do  all  sorts  of  things. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  they're  out  on  the  porch  e.'.i  a  matter  of  fact. 
That's  not  too  far  fetched, 

07  oh  17  08    LMP-LM      I  guess  there's  some  old  friends  you  jus-;  hate  '„o 

get  rid  of,  Pete. 


CC 


Yes,  that  figures. 


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CC  Hey,  you  guys  have  had  some  real  winners  there. 

Don't  change  a  good  thing. 

07  Oh  17  ^1    LMP-LM      Well,  they  seemed  to  do  all  right  for  us.  I 

guess  that's  the  way.     We  were  half-way  thinking, 
but  not  thinking  very  well,  as  was  witnessed  in 
our  checklist  procedures  tonight, 

CC  Ah,  you're  doing  outstanding. 

07  oh  20  08    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     On  your  comm,  your  checklist 

will  call  for  going  to  down-voice  "backup.  And, 
tonight,  we'd  rather  just  leave  it  in  the  normal 
voice.     So  if  you  leave  the  configuration  you 
have,  rather  than  change  it;  -  that  would  he  a 
good  deal  for  us . 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Ken,  I  only  got  part  of  that,  I  was  scrub- 
bing my  face  here.     You  want  to  save  the  same 
comm  conf igiiration  we've  got  right  now.     Is  that 
correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

07  Oh  22  02     CDR-LM      Okay.     That's  easy. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


07  Oh  36  55     mP-m      Okay,  Ken.     Gene  just  stowed  the  EVA  antenna. 
CC  Okay. 

IMP-IM      And  I'll  be  off  here  just  for  a  few  minutes, 

hiomed,  so  I'll  be  back  with  you  when  I  turn  in. 

CC  Okay.     I  may  have  misled  you  earlier  when  I  said, 

we  weren't  going  to  lose  any  time.     We  can  -  we 
caj:i  get  you  8  hours  up  to  about  19  after  the 
hour.     After  that,  we're  going  to  have  to  start 
rearranging  things  to  get  8  hours. 

07  Oh  37  38    IMP-LM      Well,  Gene's  almost  in  his  haimnock  now.     And  I 

will  be  shortly,  so  I  think  we're  probably  in 
pretty  good  shape. 


CC 


Okay,  that's  fine.  I  just  -  I  didn't  want  to 
mislead  you. 


IMP-LM      That's  all  right,  you've  never  misled  me  before 
Well,  let  me  think  about  that. 


CC 


Was  going  to  say,  you  catch  on  awful  slow,  if 
that's  true. 


LMP-IW  Right. 

0-7  Oi+  39  18     IMP-LM      Ken,  I'm  going  to  take  off  my  headset  here  and 

jump  into  the  hammock.     What  -  what  time  we 
getting  up  CET  -  Central  Time? 

CC  Well,  it's  going  to  be  roughly  1+5  minutes  past 

the  time  listed  at  182:39-  So  -  are  you  asking 
for  it  in  local  time? 

CDR-LK      Yes,  I  -  My  watch  is  set  on  Houston  time.  What 
time  will  it  be? 

CC  Be  about  

LMP-LM      Eight  hours  from  when? 

CC  Be  about  12:15,  Geno. 


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CDR-LM 


CC 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  that  sounds  great,  Deke.     It  won't  - 
We're  Just  cleaning  up  a  few  minor  things  and 
we'll  actually  probably  be  asleep  in  the  ne^ct 
10  to  15  minutes . 

Okay,  sleep  good.     You  had  a  lovely  day.  Hope 
tomorrow's  as  good. 

Sorry  to  keep  -  Thank  you,  boss.  Sorry  to  keep 
you  up  so  late.     But  appreciate  it  very  much. 


CC  We're  enjoying  it, 


CC 


Hey,  Gene,  before  you  unplug  you  might  -- 


070^11025     CDR-m      Okay,  I'm  going  off  the  air, 


CC 


CDR-LM 


CC 


-  -  Check  your  -  check  the  Suit  Flov  valve.  Looks 
like  it's  not  flowing,  if  that's  the  conf iguartion 
you  want. 

Yes,  we've  got  them  -  we  got  them  t oth  flowing. 
And  we've  got  good  circulation  in  the  cockpit. 
If  it  looks  good  to  you  down  there,  we're  in 
good  shape  up  here . 

Looks  fine.     See  you  later. 


07  01+  ho  55     CDR-m      Okay,  we  thank  you  much. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO^GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

07  08  38  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  1^7 

07  09  05  02    CC  Good  morning,  America.     Rise  and  shine. 

07  09  06  13    CC  Hello,  America,  this  is  Houston.  Over. 

07  09  06  31    CMP  Hey,  Houston,  this  is  the  command  modiae  pilot 

on  the  United  States  spaceship,  America.  I'll 
he  ready  to  go  to  work  as  soon  as  I  can  get 
untangled. 

CC  Okay.     We  got  plenty  of  that  for  you. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     I  think  I  woke  up  Just  about 

the  time  -  Just  before  you  called,  for  some  reason. 

07  09  09  10     CMP  VHP  is  OFF. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAI^SCRIPTIOK 


07  09  11  OU     CMP  Well,  Houston,  at  least  it's  daylight  today. 

Yesterday  you  got  me  up  in  the  middle  of  the  night. 

CC  Oh,  this  is  a  gentleman's  day-. 

CMP  (Chuckle)  Right. 

CMP  Of  course,  I  guess  it's  really  a  2-hour  day  when 

you  go  around  the  Moon,  isn't  it? 

CC  You  don't  get  so  tired  that  way. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Right. 

07  09  12  36    CMP  Okay.     S-BAHD  MODE  is  to  VOICE,  SQUELCH  is  -  says 

"OFF";  I'm  want  to  leave  it  ENABLED.     Crew  report, 
I'll  get  in  a  minute  and  wind  your  watch. 

07  09  15  07    CMP  Houston,  America.     If  you  happen  to  have  a  summary 

report  of  EVA-3,  I'd  sure  like  to  hear  it. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  do  that.     Let  me  give  you  a  -  a  quick 

rundown  on  review  of  what  we're  going  to  do  this 
morning.     We've  got  the  extra  RCS  trim  "burn  that's 
going  to  he  coming  in,  and  I've  got  a  pad  for  that 
guy.    And  I  have  about  1,  2,  3,  U,  5,  6,  T,  8,  9 
one-liners  to  go  into  your  Flight  Plan,  to  hring 
it  up  to  date.     The  general  plan  is  to  do  a  minus-X 
RCS  on  the  trim  maneuver,  in  order  to  avoid 
impinging  on  the  SIM  hay.     That  burn  will  he 
about  30  seconds  worth.    And  that's  going  to  give 
you  about  9  foot  per  second  DELTA-V.     The  maneuvers 
have  all  been  checked  out,  and  it's  a  reasonable 
time  line.     And  so,  I  have  both  the  plane  change 
and  the  trim  pads  for  you.     And  that  may  cut  into 
your  eat  period  just  a  little  bit.     So,  you  migh^ 
keep  that  in  mind,  that  when  you  get  a  chance  to 
nibble;  that's  probably  a  good  -  good  thing  to  be 
doing.     And  then  once  we  finish  the  plane  change, 
we  -  we're  going  to  be  back  on  the  nominal  Flight 
Plan,  and  pressing  on  in  a  -  just  like  we  have 
been.     We'll  be  leaving  the  mapping  cariira  in  ana 
taking  pictures  wir/n  it  still  retracted,  ::.n  a 


attempt  to  avoid  increasing  the  nimter  of  cycles 
on  the  camera.    And  we'll  be  running  the  SP3  PU 
valve  in  the  decreased  position,  in  order  xo 
optimize  our  propellant  loadings. 

Ah  ha!     Okay.     That  sounds  like  it's  good. 

So,  when  you're  ready  to  copy  some  of  those  things, 
that's  -  Might  "be  a  good  thing  to  get  started  on. 
Go  ahead  and  finish  squaring  away  your  cockpit . 
And,  while  they're  putting  together  an  official 
summary,  I  can  tell  you  my  unofficial  summary  of 
EVA-3  is  that  that  sure  is  super.     You've  got  to 
wa-ch  those  tapes  when  you  get  down.  That's 
really  a  -  that's  really  a  spectacular  place,  as 
you  can  probably  see.    And  they  found  a  lot  of 
mighty  interesting  rocks  there.     Jack,  being  a 
true  geologist,  is  making  up  new  geological  terms 
as  he  goes  along. 

(Laughter)     I  can  -  yes,  I  bet. 

What  you  ought  to  do  is,  when  he  gets  aboard,  you 
ought  to  tell  him  that  you  saw  a  bunch  of  vertical 
dikelets  over  on  the  north  side  of  the  massif. 
Tell  him  they  were  very  dark ,  very  small . 

Vertical  dikelets? 

Yes,  I  think  that's  the  word  he  coined  on  the  way 
doTO  there. 

Dikelets?     Oh,  okay  (laughter). 

Hey,  I  got  a  Update  Book  here.     I  guess  it'^1  be 
good  for  a  trim  burn  -  trim  .  .  . 

Okay.     In  general,  let  me  tell  you  also  t'taz  your 
RCS  is  k.J  above  the  Flight  Plan.     And,  Just  as  a 
summary,  unless  you  want  to  plox  zhera,  I'll  just 
tell  you  that  the  oxygen  and  the  hydrogen  are 
doing  good  things.     And  you've  got  plenty  of  iz  . 
And  I'm  ready  to  give  you  a  -  The  first  pad  will 
be  a  trim  RCS  burn  and  the  second  one  will  ce  the 
plane  change  burn. 


Tape  118b/3 


CiyiP  Okay.     No,  that's  good  on  the  hydrogen  and  oxygen. 

And,  I'm  ready  to  copy  the  trim  P30  pad. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  give  you  the  trim.     RCS/G&N;  37^16;  GET 

181:3^:01.22;  plus  0009-2,  all  zips,  and  all  zips i 
roll  180,  179,  3l6;  OQ67.3,  plus  Q062.it;  0009.2, 
0:30,  0009.2;  13,  292.3,  29-9.     And  at  Sirius  and 
Rigel,  118,  159,  3U9.     This  will  he  four  jets, 
minus-X  on  the  RCS .     And,  I'd  like  to  just  add  a 
comment  here  about  the  attitude.     This  attitude 
is  one  that's  computed  after  you've  gone  to  the 
plane-change  REFSMRd-T .     And  when  you  call  pl+1, 
you'll  be  getting  a  different  set  of  attitudes 
computed  out  of  it  because  of  the  Vkl  computing 
a  plus-X  burn.     But,  when  you're  in  attitude  and 
Pl+l's  called,  and  you  get  to  the  DELTA-V  register, 
you  should  be  able  to  put  all  of  the  DELTA-V  in 
one  axis . 

07  09  20  52    CMP  Oh,  okay.     This  really  is  a  posigrade  burn  is 

what  you're  saying.     And  I  really  won't  be  able 
to  trim  it? 

CC  I'm  not  sure  I  understood  your  comment  there. 

CMP  Well,  in  other  words,  we're  not  -  we're  not 

changing  WOUl'J  81.     You  know,  like  we  do  on  the 
SEP  maneuver. 

CC  Oh.     That's  -  that's  correct.     You're  going  to  see 

the  numbers  go  to  zero  during  the  burn. 

CMP  Okay.     Real  good.     Ve  just  won't  -  ...  won't  be  the 

right  attitude.     We'll  use  the  VERB  29  maneuver 
and  use  that  attitude. 

CC  That's  correct.     And  when  you  ge^  -ohere ,  ^nax 

should  put  it  all  in  the  X-axis. 

CMP  Okay.     Mighty  fine. 

CC  Kow  I'm  ready  for  the  readback. 

CMP  Oh,  let  ne  read  it  tack.     Okay,  it'll  be  GiN/RCS 

for  the  Trim  burn.     Weight,  is  3T^l6 ;  T.  is 

ig 

18j  :  34  : 01 . 22  .  I'm  not  sure  on  the  seconds.  Is  "chat 
correct . 


Tape  118B/U 


CC  That's  correct. 

CMP  Okay.     NOUN  8l  plus  9.2,  and  that's  OC ,  roll,  l30 ; 

pitch,  1T9,  yaw,  3l6;        will  be  67-3,  PERIGEE 

62.it;  DELTA-V  total  is  9-2;  burn  time  is 

30  seconds;  DELTA-V^  is  9.2.     Sextant  star  Is  13, 

shaft  is  292.3,  trunnion  is  29.9-     That'll  be 
Sirius  and  Rigel,  II8,  missed  the  pitch  align  and 
the  yaw  align  is  3^9-     It'll  be  fc>ur  jets,  minus-X, 
and  it'll  be  at  the  plane  change  F:EFSMJ4AT . 

CC  Okay.     And  that  pitch  align  is  159. 

07  09  23  01    CMP  Okay.     Pitch  align,  159 . 

CC  Okay.     The  next  one  will  be  the  pQane  change,  and 

I'll  have  that  ready  in  just  a  second. 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  in  the  Flight  Plan  for  that  one. 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by  for  just  a  second, 

CC  Okay.     LOPC  SPS/G&H;  37^+16;  plus  O.38,  plus  0.9P; 

182:33:53.00;  minus  0017-9,  ninus  0365.5, 
minus  0006.9;  roll,  0;  pitch,  0;  yav ,  315;  0062.7, 
plus  0062.6;  0366.0,  0:20,  0353.8:   22,  IU8.9, 
19.5;  Sirius  and  Rigel  and  the  roll,  pitch,  and 
yaw  aligns  are  the  same:     II8,  159,  3'49  •  This 
will  be  four  jets  arid  12  seconds. 

07  09  25  30    CMP  Okay.     LOPC,  SPS/G&K,  37^16;  plus  0.38,  plus  0.92; 

T.     182:33:53.00;  NOUN  8I  is  minus  17-9, 

a  minus  365.5,  and  a  minus  6.9;  roll,  0;  pitch,  0; 
yaw,  315;  H^,  62.7,  perigee,  62.6  -  that's  pretty 

circular  -  D2LTA-V  total  is  366. C.  burn  tir.e  is 
20  seconds,  DELTA~V  ,  353.8;  sextejit  star  22, 

shaft  1^+8.9  and  19-5;  Sirius  and  l:igel,  II6 ,  1:?9, 
3'49;  four  jets,  12  seconds. 

CC  Okay.     It's  a  good  readback .     And.   I've  got  tx. 

couple  of  Flight  Plan  things  to  give  you  when 
you're  ready  for  that. 


Tape  II8B/5 


CMP  Okay.     I'm  with  you. 

CC  Okay.     The  first  one  is  at  I80  hours  and 

20  minutes. 

CMP  I've  got  it. 

CC  Okay.     Ve  owe  you  an  attitude  there  and  the 

attitude  will  he  179,  222,  359-     The  HIGH  GAIN: 
pitch,  minus  39;  yaw,  lk3 .     Why  don't  you  read 
them  hack,  individually  as  we  go  along? 


CMP 


Okay.  Roll,  179;  pitch,  222;  yaw,  359-  HIGH  GAIN 
will  he  minus  39  and  IU5. 


CC  Okay.     And  that's  the  -  that's  at  l80;20.  That's 

with  the  VERB  k9  there.     The  next  one  is  at 
181 : 35,  which  is  on  the  next  page,  and  it's  going 
to  be  at  VERB  h9 ,  maneuver  to  LOPC .     What  we're 
going  to  do  here  is  two  separate  maneuvers.  We're 
going  to  do  a  maneuver  which  is  a  roll,  so  that 
when  you  do  the  next  one,  you'll  avoid  the  gimhal 
lock  because  of  the  direction  that  the  CMC  would 
normally  maneuver  you.     So,  this  maneuver  is  going 
to  be  in  two  parts.     The  first  one  we're  calling 
a  VERB  h9  maneuver  to  the  gimbal  lock  avoidance 
attitude  at  l8l:35.     That  attitude  OBl ,  I81,  and 
317.     The  HIGH  GAIN:     PITCH,  minus  19;  YAW,  227, 
and  AUTO  and  NARROW  for  AOS. 

07  09  28  50     CMP  Okay,  at  l8l:35,  we'll  have  a  VERB  kg  to  gimbal 

lock  avoidance;  roll  O81,  18I ,  and  317.  HIGH 
GAIN  will  be  a  PITCH  of  minus  19,  and  YAW,  227; 
AUTO  and  NARROW  for  AOS. 

CC  Okay.     Now  at  l8l:l43,  you  can  just  skip  that 

high  gain  call  out.     At  iQl-.k^,  we  want  zo 
add  a  VERB  i+9  maneuver  to  the  LOPC  burn  at  aitude  . 

CMP  Okay.     At  l8l:ll5,  VERB  i+9  to  LOPC  burn  attitude. 

CC  Okay.     Now  on  the  next  page,  we  go  over  to  l82:15. 

And,  I  want  to  add  a  PU  VALVE  to  DECREASE. 


CMP 


182:15.     PU  VALVE  to  DECREASE. 


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CC 


All  right,  sir.     And  I  have  ^wo  more  to  give  ynu 
but  before  ve  do  that  -  Kow  about  let's  terminate 
the  jet  monitor  by  calling  P30  -  P2C,  and  a  VERB  21 
NOOT  26  to  all  zips,  and  then  we  can  up-linK  while 
■we're  finishing. 


07  09  30  J+7     CMP  Okay.     You  have  ACCEPT, 


Okay.     And  you  got  the  monitor  terminated? 


07  09  31  00    CMP  Ye£3.     It's  terminated. 


1  guess  it  went  to  P30  faster  than  it  showed  up 
down  there  or  went  into  P30  not  through  it. 

Okay,  why  don't  you  put  the  PAl'I  CA:4ERA.  to  S^^INDBY 
and  POWER,  ON,  while  we're  about  it  and  we  can 
let  them  look  at  that  stuff  while  we're  getting 
the  rest  of  our  Flight  Flan  updates? 


07  09  31  i+5     CMP  PAE-  CAMERA,  STAiiDBY;  POWER  is  ON. 

OC  Okay,  thank  you. 


All  right.  Let's  go  back  to  our  UDdates  ana  the 
next  one  should  come  at  iBZikk. 


CMP  Okay.  l82:kk 

CC 


Okay.     At  l82:i+i+,  I  want  to  delete  the  "VAPFING 
CAMERA,  EXTEND." 

Okay.  Delete  the  "I4APPING  CAIvffiRA ,  EXTE:C  "  Wait 
a  minute.  I  scratched  out  the  opening  the  cover. 
We  got  to  do  that. 

Yes,     You  won't  do  that  because  we're  goir.g  to 
the  pictures  anyhow. 


CMP  Yes.  Okay. 


Okay.     Then  the  next  thing  we  want  to  do  is  at 
ld2:h&  just  a  half  inch  down.     I  have  a  r_ew 
attitude  for  you.     Where  it  says  C97,  Qc£,  0:^9, 
it's  now  going  to  be  O96 ,  097,  and  352;  and  tne 
orb  rate  attitude  is  still  all  zeros. 


Tape  118B/7 


CMP  Okay.     The  at-ltude  after  the  P20  option  5  plus~X 

forward,  vill  be  O96,  097  and  252  and  orb  rate  is  0. 

CC  Okay,  that  last  angle  was  352.     I'm  not  s'are  we 

got  that  right. 

07  07  33  30     CMP  Okay.     352  for  Yaw.     That's  correct. 

CC  All  right,  sir.     And  while  we're  about  it,  why 

don't  you  take  the  PAN  CAMERA  PO'-ffiR  back  3PF? 

07  09  33  51     CI4P  Okay.     Pan  cam  -  pan  ca  -  PAN  CAMERA  PO^R  is 

OFF  (laughter). 

CC  Okay,  and  as  long  as  we're  talking  about  pan 

cameras,  let's  go  to  l83:^5. 

CMP  183:^5.  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  and  after  the  pan  camera  block,  want  to 

add  "V  OVER  H  OVERRIDE  to  HIGH  ALTITbTDE." 

CMP  Okay.     After  "PAH  CAMERA,  STANDBY,  STEREO,  and 

POWER,"  put  "V  OVER  H  to  HIGH  ALTITUDE." 

CC  That's  affirmative.     And  the  last  update  is  on 

the  next  page  -  l8i+:27.     And  it  says  "MAPPING 
CAMERA,  RETRACT"  and  since  we  didn't  extend  it  you 
don't  have  to  retract  it. 

CMP  Sounds  logical.     Okay,  mapping  camera,  delete  the 

"MAPPING  CAMERA,  RETRACT." 

CC  All  right,  sir.     And  let's  see  what  else  ve  have 

here  -  how  about  running  yo^ur  paw  over  most  of  you;- 
biomed  sensors?     Looks  like  you've  got  some  noise 
on  there.     And  avoid  changing  them.     'tvhy  don't  you 
just  kind  of  rub  on  each  one  and  see  if  we  can  get 
it  to  come  in  a  good  signal? 

CMP  Okay.     I'll  do  that. 

07  09  35  h6     CC  Okay.     You're  making  progress  there. 

CMP  Key,  it's  working,  huh? 


Tape  118B/8 


CMP  Hey,  there's  old  Hadley  Rille  out  there.  That's 

a  pretty  deep  little  troiigh.     Hey,  you  really 
didn't  get  a  perspective  of  that  tl-iing,  at  least 
I  didn't  from  some  of  the  pictures.     Not  until 
you  had  a  chance  to  get  up  here  anc.  take  a  look 
at  some  of  the  other  things. 

CC  Okay,  I'll  tell  you  when  we  get  thi-ough  -  - 

CMP  Okay,  that's  the  last  of  the  Flight  Plan  things, 

huh? 

CC  Yes,  sir;  that  was  the  last  of  the  Flight  Plans, 

and  I  still  need  a  morning  report  from  you  and 
things  like  that;  and  I'll  keep  an  eye  on  the 
clock  down  here  and  try  to  help  you.  stay  on  the 
time  line.     The  one  thing  that  I  see  that  may  have 
to  change  is  -  I  gave  you  a  DELTA-V     for  the  RCS 

"burn  that  wasn't  very  useful,  and        have  to  set 
it  up  to  count  in  the  other  direction.  There's 
a  couple  of  things  you  do  -  like  set  it  to  130. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Yes,  okay. 

CC  It's  just  a  tiackup  monitor  anyhow  snd  so  it's  - 

setting  it  to  100  is  probably  the  first  thing 
to  do . 

CIvIP  Yes  ,  I  know. 

Cf4P  Okay.     Let  me  see  if  I've  got  time  to  put  sor.e 

hot  water  in  my  eggs. 

CC  Okay, 

07  09  38  29     CC  Okay,  Ron,  the  computer  is  yours  when  -  whenevei- 

you  want  to  go  to  BLOCK. 

CMP  Sleep  last  night  was  probably  about  6  hours  - 

kind  of  intermittent  -  but  it  seemed  to  me  like 
when  I  was  sleeping  I  was  sleeping  pretxy  good. 
For  some  reason,  I  woke  up  a  couple  or  3  hours 
after  I  went  to  sleep  and  I  got  to  sleep  about  an 
houi'  late.     Oh,  and  I  was  just  itching  like  a 
son  of  a  gun. 


Tape  118B/9 


CC  Wns.t's  that  5  the  sensors? 

CMP  Tne  only  thing  I  can  thinli  of  is  that  -  no,  my 

arms  -  you  know  my  forea.rms. 

CC  Oh,  I  see. 

CMP  -?rom  the  vrist  hack  to  the  elbow. 

CC  Okay . 

CI-CP  'The  only  thing  I  can  think  of  is  maybe  the  old 

Beta  cloth  itch,  you  know.     Then  I  looked  around 
and  there  was  nothing  there.     You  know,  no  hives 
or  anything  like  that.     So  I  got  out  sorae  of  that 
carry  [?j  cream  and  put  that  on  and  that  stopped 
it  and  went  back  to  sleep. 

CC  Okay.     It's  coming  up  on  tine  to  start  our  -  our 

first  VERB  ho  maneuver  which  can  he  running  and 
I'll  watch  the  angles  while  you  put  a  little  hot 
water  in  your  food  there  if  you  want  to. 

07  09  ^0  07     CMP  Okay,  I've  got  a  target  load,  I  guess,  in  desired 

orientation.     Okay  ..  <  .   2,  VSRE.  U9  ENTER,  VERB  25. 
Plus  179.00  E:'jTSR„  plus  PITCH  22  -  222.00  EI^ITER , 
YAW  359=  plus  359.00  EhTER.     Okay,  vre're  still 
saying  0.2  of  a  degree  per  second;  PROCEED  to 
.  .  .   keys  ~  PROCEED. 

CC  Okay,  ana  the  HIGH  GAIK  to  AUTO,  please. 

07  09  hi  Ok     C>1P  HIGH  GAIir  is  in  AUTO  and  we'll  set   that  at  minus  39 

YAW  145,  just  in  case  it  breaks  lock. 

07  09  h2  32    GP4P  Hey,  Ken,  I'm  going  to  be  off  the  heaaset  here 

while  I  change  hack  to  my  comin  carrier. 

CC  All  right,  sir, 

07  09  h5  16    CiMP  Okay.     My  prd  is  150^.4. 

CC  Copy  that. 

CMP  I  got  hacon  hits,     Tnosa  are  e&,sv  to  fix. 


Tape  118B/10 

CMP  I  had  three  jugs  of  water. 

07  09  hj  20     CMP  Okay.     We're  going  ATT  1/RATE  2.     fes .     Oh.  Star 

number  11  -  Aldebaran. 

CC  You  lucked  out . 

CMP  Yes.     That's  a  good  one. 

CMP  It's  a  little  ways  off. 

CMP  Okay.     PROCEED,  it  was  Aldebaran.       ...  Dnoces . 

To  Dnoces.     6.     Dnoces  is  hard  to  recognize 
through  the  telescope.     Must  be  it.     Yes,  that 
was  it . 

.  CC  How  about  that? 

CMP  Okay.     ...  for  some  torquing  angles.     Plus  173.5. 

CC  Okay,  got  those. 

CMP  Okeiy,  we'll  torque  at  30  10. 

CC  All  right. 

CMP  52  -  52  ENTER.     We  want  to  do  an  option  1  tc  the 

LOPC  orientation.     Okay?     Let's  see,  622,  l80  - 
that's  a  pretty  neat  -  isn't  that  i^rhere  I'm 
supposed  -  and  8l793l6.     Outstanding!     Okay,  it's 
dark  out  there,  and  I  think  I  could  find  a  star 
if  I  had  to. 


CC  Okay,  I  copied  the  angles  for  you  if  you  need  their,. 

CMP  Okay.     It  scares  me  everytime  thax  light  cor.;es  on. 

Ah  ha!     It  went  away   ¥nat  the  coarse 

align  error  is.     ...     Just  barely  in  the  sextant 
field  of  view. 


CC  Okay. 

CMP  I  con't  know.     That  wasn't  a  very  good  r.ark.  Let's 

try  that  again.     Let's  try  Dnoces  again.  Pretty 
logical  since  we're  in  this  attitude.     But  we 
didn't  gauge  our  - 


Tape  118b/ 11 


CC  Okay.    And  the  angles  I  copied  last  time  were  217 

on  the  shaft  and  33  on  the  trunnion. 

Ci^IP  That's  close o     Just  in  the  sextant  again. 

CMP  Looks  like  217  and  33' s  going  to  be  it  once  you 

get  it  in  there.     I'll  settle  for  that.  There's 
the  old  coarse  align  error.     I'll  let  you  copy 
those  down  tnere  .3  I  don't  want  them  up  here. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  And  you  can  torque  any  time. 

CMP  And  let's  see  ~  Okayj  we'll  torque  at  3k30. 

CC  Okay;  that's  a  good  number. 

07  09  55  22     CMP  Ah  has     fCnows  exactly  where  it  is.  Okay. 

CC  Isn't  ths.t  amazing? 

CMP  Yes . 

CC  And  it  shows  \-re  even  know  how  to  calculate  the 
burn  attitude . 

Ci-iP  Yes,     Tha-i:'s  good. 

07  09  56  36     CI-IP  Okay.     We're  CMC,  RATS  2,  Here. 

CMP  Okay.     Count  - 

CC  And,  Ron,  I  just  noticed  that  in  all  o-ur  scrihhling, 

I  missed  the  line  that  said  "Configure  for  the  d-L^mp' 

on  the  previous  colixain  ah  out  23.     I  don't  Know  if 

you  saw        in  there  or  not. 

CMP  I  missed  it.     I'll  sure  get  it. 

CC  And  when  it's   convenient  for  you,   I've  gox  -  - 

C;yIP  Okay . 


jU  Ulit 


CC  -  -  couple  of  hydrogen  tarik  fanis  to  change  ar 

good  docs  would  like  zo  heax  how  you're  eating  anc 
pushing  pills  . 


Tape  118B/12 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 
CMP 


(Le,ughter)     Okay.     Took  a  Seconal  last  night,  ar.d 


i'm  by  the  fans. 


Okay.  And  that's  HYDROGEN  tank  3:  FMs ,  OFF;  ana 
HYDROGEN  tank  1:     FANs ,  OK. 

or  09  59  08    CMP  Okay,  numher  3  went  from  AUTO  to  OFF,  tank  1  is 

going  from  OFF  to  ON. 

CC  Very  good. 


CC 


Let's  see,  I  got  that  done  -  at  hc ..  next  thing  we 
got  coming  up,  huh?     Okay,  I'll  go  dovn  there  and 
get  some  of  this  stuff  configured.     Oh,  I  ate  just 
about  everything  yesterday,  and  then  some  other 
things  on  there,  and  a  bunch  of  extra  stuff  too, 
so  when  I  get  a  chance,  I'll  call  that  aown.  Okay-^ 


CC  Sounds  fine: 


Getting  ready  for  this  urine  duap, 


07  10  06  2?     CC  And,  Ron,  we're  coming  up  on  mmp  time  and  don't 

forget,  we  want  to  close  the  covers,  and  that  kind 
of  good  stiiff  before  we  start  the  dump. 

07  10  06  kO    CMP  OKay.     UV  cover  is  clo  -  Let's  see  -  m  is  OF^ 

IR  is  OFF. 

CMP  That's.     Yes,  I  start  on  old  fuel  call  purge  here 

Do  this  0^  fuel  cell  purge.  Okay.  JJow  let's  see, 
waste  - 

07  10  08  16    CMP  y^K  it.     The  old  was.e  water  duir.p  is  on. 

CC  Okay. 

07  10  08  28    CMP  DRAIN  VALVE  is  DMff;  BATTEl^Y  VENT  is 


LOSi 


Okay,  Ron,  the  EhjCOM  has  calculated  about  12  min- 
utes to  go  on  your  dump,  and  ±z  wouJ.dn't  ^^ur^  to 
set  yom^  kitchen  clock  or  whatever  you  do  zo  hel^ 
remind  yourself  because  that'll  be  after  LCS.  .\^d 
we've  taken  a  look  at  ail  of  the  sy; -;en;s  ana  evei-y- 
thing  looks  pretty  good  there  and  RZTRC  woulu  li^e 


TaiDe  :l18E/13 


to  remind  you  t'aat  the  weight  has  changed  on  you::' 
trim  pad  and  that  has  some  implications  to  the  wa^'- 
that  computes  'the  hurn  arcs  and  you  want  to  be 
superprecise.     And  looks  like  everytning  is  GO  I'cr 
s.  trim. 

CI"IP  Okay;  so-und&  good.     I'll  se^G  ray  little  ling-ding 

here  for  about  10  minutes . 

CO  \Tny  don't  you  zry  about  9?     Charlie  swears  iu '  s 

no  m.ore  than  that. 

Ci-IP  I  helieYe  Charlie, 

CMP  Want  me  to  configure  the  DSE.j  or  ai-e  you  going  to 

set  it  up  for  ne? 

CO  Why  don't  you  do  that  one? 

CRP  Okay  = 

07  10  Ik  32     CC  And,  Ron,  we've  got  about  a  minute  and  a  naif  to 

LOS  and  I  never  did  give  you  a  summary  of  ohe 
ET^/A  "  just  a  few  quick  pa.rticulars .     They  got 
7'  plus  ].5  out  of  EVa-3.     Got  almost  everyuning 
done,     Tasy  had  to  delete  station  10  in  order  to 
maj£e  up  time  5  but  u-ha/c '  3  made  up  for  by  the  fact 
that  they  fouiid  some  mci-e  interesting  things  at 
other  stops.     And  there  was  -  I  mentioned  the 
dikelets,,  and  there's  some  indication  that  they 
may  have  seen  a  dike  or  something  of  nhat  nature 
over  on  the  Sorth  Massif,     And  Jack  went  out  and 
applied  all  his  -  his  physical  skills  to  the  l-a:';Q.r 
suxface  gravimeter  and  that  included  jumping  ana 
kicking  and  pounding  and  it-  still  doesn't  work. 
Guess  we'll  get  zhexfL  up  about  l83:t5  and  the  only 
thing  we've  had  to  do  on  their  Surface  Checklist 
for  la'uncn  aay  is  just  to  scrub  the  P22  tnat  was 
in  there,   and  vie'' re  ^:ust  going  to  drop  that  one 
to  malie  up  some  time  <     And  it  looks  like  they  o^aght 
to  get  about  8  hours  sleep  out  of  it.-,  so  looks  like 
everybody  is  in  good  shape .     And  you've  got  .Just  a 
few  seconds  to  LOS.     Keep  your  eye  on  the  waste 

DU.. 


07  -0  15  51  Ci'-IP 


0-0 od 3  —  tnan^i  you,  Ken 


Tape  118B/11+ 

07  10  36  XX 

07  11  01  33  CMP 
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CMP 

CC 
CMP 

CC 
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CC 
CMP 

CC 
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CMP 


BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  i+8 


Ah  ha!     Looks  like  we're  getting  you  already. 
Hello  there.     How's  it  going? 

Okay.  Just  now  calling  the  VERB  22.  It's  G'f  .h  by 
62.8.  Okay.  Let  me  give  you  a  little  b-urn  report 
here  -  - 

All  right. 

...  reading  on  the  burns,  so  you  ceji  get  that 
off  the  recorder. 

Okay. 

Let's  see.     Okay.     With  30  seconds  of  burn  time, 
by  my  stopwatch  there,  I  ended  up  with  a  plus  - 
no,  let's  see  -  with  a  minus  -  minus  0.5  X.  I 
think  0  in  Y  and  a  plus  O.5  in  Z.     Okay,  so  I 
tweaked  out  the  plus  X  and  rolled  :right  90  degrees 
and  burned  a  0.6  in  a  plus-Y.     Okav .     With  final 
trim  of  -  on  the  NOUK  853  of  0  plui;  0.1  and  a 
minus  0.1.     DELTA-V^^  was  a  minus  110.!+  but  we  had 

that  -  not  a  minus,  a  plus  110.  i+.     But  there's  no 
bias  check  at  a  plus  0.9  -  on  the  bias. 

Okay. 

Okay,  the  WOUK  20  values  -  NOUN  20  values  -  after 
the  90  degree  roll  there  and  for  tl-.e  final  trim 
were  270 ,  179,  317. 

Okay.     Sounds  like  you're  way  aJieac.  of  z'ne  game. 
!fes.     Worked  real  fine. 

Have  you  had  a  chance  to  get  anything  to  eat  yet? 

Yes,  I  ate  some  scrambled  eggs  and  I'm  nibbling  on 
the  bacon  bars,  and  I  had  a  -  some  orange  Juice. 


Tape  118B/15 


CC  Okay,  I  wasn't  trying  to  fish  for  a  report,  I  was 

just  trying  to  find  out  it  you  were  still  eating 
or  how  things  were  going. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I'm  a  little  -  I'm  still  eating  a  little 

bit.     But  we're  in  good  shape. 

GC  Okay.     You  get  a  -  you  get  a  medal  for  not  over- 

dumping  the  waste  water  tank. 

CMP  Yes.     It's  amazing. 

CMP  The  old  9-minute  mark  was  right  on.     I  set  it  at 

8  minutes,  just  to  be  sure,  and  1  minute  later  it 
was  10  percent.     Tell  Charlie  he  figured  right. 

CC  Well,  we  won't  be  able  to  talk  to  Dumis  again. 

CMP  (Laughter)     That's  right. 

CC  Okay.     And  I  don't  remember  if  I  explained  -  - 

CMP  ...  star  check. 

07  11  05  29    CC  Yes.     Okay.    And  I  don't  know  if  you've  got  an 

explanation  on  why  your  angles  changed  for  the 
P20  business  after  the  burn,  but,  this  -  this 
plane  change  burn  is  going  to  have  a  little  orbit 
shaping  in  it  as  well  as  the  previous  one.  So 
that  it  -  it  is  going  to  have  some  components  that 
are  both  radial  and  tangential. 


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Tape  1193/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUiro  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIOK 


07  11  06  01  CMP 


Ah  ha.  Okay. 


GC  So  that  meant  that  your  REFSMMAT  wasn't  quite  the 

REFSMMAT  that  you  were  anticipating  earlier.  And 
That  explains  the  -  why  those  angles  had  to  change 
on  you  and  also  explains  some  of  those  odd-hall 
components . 

CMP  Okay.     Okay.     I  was  wondering  ahout  that  but  -  _^  '  1 . 

tell  you  -  those  guys  in  the  trench  down  there  knc, 
so  much  more  about  what's  going  on  when  they  cal- 
culate that  stuff  than  I  do  that  I'll  -  I'll 
believe  them. 


CC 

CW 
CC 

CMP 

07  11  07  oh  NASA 
CMP 
NASA 

CMP 

07  11  07  ^0  NASA 


Say,  Ron,  are  you  -  are  you  in  a  place  where  yoi.  t-^;: 
spare  a  minute  or  2?     Is  it  convenient? 

Sure . 

Okay.    Got  somebody  that  would  like  to  talk  to  yo-; 
for  just  a  minute. 

Oh ,  yes . 

Ron,  this  is  Jim  Fletcher.     How  are  you? 

Yes,  Dr.  Fletcher  -  mighty  fine,  sir. 

We  had  hoped  to  catch  you  last  night  hut  you  were 
behind  the  Moon  when  the  ceremony  was  going  on. 
Did  you  catch  any  of  it  at  all? 

Well,  I  -  I  got  the  briefing,  or  the  report  froiu 
it  from  the  CAPCOM,  but  it  sounds  like  it  was  u 
mighty  fine  ceremony  and  something  that  this  nation 
can  really  be  proud  of. 

Well,  Ron,  there's  one  thing  that  the  President 
wanted  to  make  sure  that  you  got .     And  I  had  hoped 
to  do  it  last  night.     We've  been  in  very  close  touch 
with  the  White  House  and  the  President  has  been 
following  closely  what  -  what's  going  on  up  there 
and,  of  course,  it's  absolutely  fascinating  to  us 
down  here .     But  he  wanted  to  be  sure  that  you 


Tape  119B/2 


imderstood  that  he'd  like  to  wish  you  Godspeed  as 
you  return  to  Earth.     And  I  must  say  I'd  like  to 
add  that  and  also  add  that,  from  everything  I've 
heard,  this  is  a  spectacular  succesj;. 

07  11  08  2k     CMP  Thank  you  very  much,  there,  Dr.  Fletcher,  and 

please  convey  my  thinks  to  Mr.  Presi.dent.  I 
appreciate  that  very  much,  and  I  -  ]:  also  appreciate 
the  opportunity  to  he  able  to  do  something  for  my 
country  and  I  -  hopefully,  this  is  the  one  thing 
that  I  will  be  able  to  do.     And  I  certainly 
appreciate  it.     Just  the  thoughts,  1;hemselves  , 
really. 

07  11  08  kg    NASA         Well,  very,  good.  Eon.     I'd  just  like  to  say  that 

I  -  I've  never  -  I've  never  had  any  idea  whatsoever 
that  things  would  go  so  well  in  the  scientific  T^art 
of  the  -  of  the  orbital  science.     11; ' s  -  it's 
almost  unbelievable  when  I  talk  to  the  guys  in 
the  backroom,  and  I  just  wanted  to  riake  sure  that 
you  knew  that  I  knew  it . 

CMP  Yes,  sir.     We  certainly  do  and  they  worked  real 

hard  to  get  the  -  these  experiments  and  the  equip- 
ment all  squared  away.  I  was  following  along  with 
them  pretty  well  and  1  had  lot  of  confidence. 

07  11  09  29    NASA  Well,  very  good.     Thanks  kindly. 

CMP  Yes,  sir.     Dr.  Fletcher;  appreciate  it. 

CO  And,  Ron,  how  about  the  high  gain? 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  reset  it  here,  I  guess,. 

07  11  10  16     CMP  Okay.     I'm  in  REACQ  and  NARROW  now. 

CO  And  how  about  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN  when  you  get 

a  chance? 

07  11  11  58    CMP  Okay,  I'm  right  there,  so  we've  got  her, 

CC  Okay,  and  let's  see  we've  got  a  few  minutes.     I  had  - 

I  had  two  more  magazine  changes  to  go  into  the 
Fliglit  Plan  if  it's  convenient  to  give  them  to  you 
now. 


Tape  119B/3 


CMP  Let  me  get  started  on  the  other  VERB  U9  here , 

okay? 

CC  Okay,  just  fine. 

CMP  315.     Plus  ENTER  -  plus  -  and  one  more  PROCEED. 

07  11  13  02     CMP  Okay,  ve're  on  our  way. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  Just  for  your  information,  about  291 

looks  like  the  maximum  yav  you  ought  to  see  on 
this.     And  we'll  keep  an  eye  on  it  for  you. 

CMP  Okay.     203.     Okay,  why  don't  we  take  some  of  those 

Flight  Plan  changes  here? 

CC  Okay.     And  these  are  real  simple  ones  on  page  283- 

CMP  283.     You're  really  looking  ahead.  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  at  l87i^5,  you've  got  a  magazine  Bravo  Brave 

called  out  and  we'd  like  to  make  that  Delta  Delta. 

CMP  Delta  Delta  it  is. 

CC  Okay,  and  a  couple  of  lines  "below  that  you  have 

a  magazine  November  November  which  we  want  to  change 
to  Kilo  Kilo. 

CMP  Kilo  it  is. 

CC  Okay,  that  was  kind  of  painless,  wasn't  it? 

CMP  Yes,  that  was. 

CC  And  that's  all  I've  got.    We  want  to  remember  to 

get  the  PU  VALVE  to  DECREASE. 

07  11  15  15    CMP  Yes,  I  could  do  that  now,  I  guess,  couldn't  I? 

CC  Okay. 

07  11  15  22     CMP  Okay,  we're  setting  on  the  minus  200-DECREASE . 

CMP  Got  a  time  here  and  let  me  bring  you  up  to  dat^e 

on  the  -  lookout . 


Tape  119B/i+ 


CMP  Okajr.     Ready  to  go  on  the  food? 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

Looks  like  we're  going  to  miss  it. 


:mp 


CMP  Okay.     Day  8:     sausage,  grits,  fruit  cocktail, 

orange  leverage,  coffee,  and  tea,  tmd  a  vitanin. 
Next  iDox:     ham  -  couldn't  find  my  cheese  until 
last  night  so  I  didn't  have  it,  one  rye  bread, 
can  of  peaches  or  sack  of  peaches,  cereal  bar' 
oraaige  drink,  coffee,  graham  cracker  cubes,  acri- 
cot  cubes,  jelly  candy,  sugar  cookies.     Supper  - 
had  hamburger  and  catsup,  vanilla  pudding,  grape 
drink;  I  guess  that  was  it. 

CC  All  right,  sir.     We've  got  about  3h  minutes  or 

so  until  the  burn.     I've  got  a  news  summary  I  can 

read  if  you'd  like  to  have  that  or  if  you'd  like  to 
put  it  off  until  later  I  can  do  that  too. 

CMP  No,  why  don't  you  go  ahead? 

CC  I'll  Just  read  it  and  if  I  start  to  bother  you, 

why  Just  holler  at  me  and  I'll  stop. 

CMP  Okay . 

07  11  20  Ih     CC  This  is  put  together  by  a  -  a  Mr.  Jim  Kokowsky  [?] 

and  it  looks  like  he's  done  a  pretty  nice  Job' of 
summarizing  the  news,  so  I'm  going  to  read  it 
cold.     And  he's  given  us  a  summary  of  the  late 
news.     And  the  weather  couldn't  be  worse  in 
Houston.     It  had  to  be  better  on  the  Moon  or  in 
orbit  around  it.     This  morning  more  cold  and 
drizzle  blanketed  the  Houston  metropolitan  area. 
Yesterday  morning  it  was  32  degrees  .     This  morning 
a  little  warmer  but  a  lot  wetter,  and  it's  getting 
colder  on  Friday.     On  the  national-i.nternaticnal 
scene:     Peace  talks  in  Paris  between  Dr.  Henry 
Kissinger  and  Le  Due  Tho  have  ended  -  at  least 
for  the  time  being.     Dr.  Kissinger  is  in  Waslrington 
today  to  brief  President  Nixon  on  the  talks.  The 
past  3-1/2  weeks,  the  pair  of  negotiators  have 
held  58  hours  of  talks.     Neither  side  is  givinj^;  out 


Tape  119B/5 


any  hints.    When  asked  alaout  the  cease-fire  "by 
Christmas,  Dr.  Kissinger  told  reporters  at  Andrews, 
"I  don't  want  to  make  any  predictions."    The  U.S. 
by  sizeable  vote  has  had  its  assessment  to  the 
fund  of  the  United  Nations  reduced  by  a  vote  of 
81  to  27.     The  U.S.  will  now  pay  only  25  percent 
of  the  cost  rather  than  the  present  31  percent . 
Transatlantic  fares  may  drop  beginning  in  Febru- 
ary.    The  International  Air  Transport  Association 
says  all  carriers  will  set  their  own  prices.  It 
appears  that  air  travelers  to  Europe  next  year  may 
get  some  real  bargains .     In  the  hotly  contested 
and  federally  supervised  United  Mine  Workers  e]  e  ■-- 
tion,  the  insurgent  candidate,  Arnold  Miller,  has 
gone  into  a  lead  over  incumbent  President  Tony 
Boyle.    Miller  has  led  a  grass  roots  movement  to 
oust  Boyle  who  took  over  the  union  control  from 
the  late  John  L,  Lewis.     We  mentioned  the  rather 
dismal  weather  in  the  Houston  area  this  morning, 
but  the  midwest  and  northeast  are  really  getti?-  - 
some  bad  weather.     Ice  storms  seriously  hampered 
the  northern  part  of  the  nation,  from  Idaho  to 
the  eastern  seaboard.     After  almost  a  year,  troope 
involved  in  the  India-Pakistani  War  are  beginning 
to  go  back  to  their  homelands.     Truce-line  naps 
have  been  exchanged  and  approved  by  both  govern- 
ments.    Civil  servants  of  the  European  Conanon 
Market,  they're  called  Eurocrats,  are  on  strike. 
The  8000  employees  walked  off  the  Job  due  to  a 
salary  dispute. 

On  the  regional  and  local  scene:     the  Houston 
City  council  has  vetoed  a  plan  to  build  a  new 
commuter  airstrip  in  southwest  Houston  for  the  STOL 
aircraft.     Residents  of  the  area  have  been  protest- 
ing.    The  community  of  Tomball,  north  of  Houston, 
is  looking  for  a  new  police  force.     The  police 
chief  and  seven  officers  walked  off  the  job  Tuesday, 
after  the  City  Council  refused  the  officers  a  pay 
raise.     In  Harris  County,  the  State  Highway  Patrol 
end  reserve  police  have  been  called  in  to  maintain 
police  protection.    That's  maintain  protection  in 
Tomball.     The  project  to  expend  the  -  expand  the 
Armand  Bayou  as  a  park  and  wildlife  refuge  has 
been  given  a  boost  with  a  $100,000  pledge.  So 
far  $350,000  has  been  pledged  and  $750,000  is 


Tape  119B/6 


needed  to  gain  Federal  matching  funds.  Galveston 
will  hold  a  school  "bond  election  on  February  3rd. 
The  bonds,  if  okayed,  will  be  used  to  air-condition 
all  schools  not  so  equipped  and  to  improve  lighting 
in  two  schools.     It's  a  light  day  ir.  sports;  the 
head  coaching  job  for  SMQ  is  open,  being  con- 
sidered are  North  Carolina  coach  Biai  Dooley,  and 
Washington  coach  Jim  Owens.     George  Blanda,  a 
living  testimony  for  the  over-UO  set  will  become 
the  oldest  man  ever  to  play  football  this  Sunday. 
Prior  to  Blanda,  I  guess,  we've  had  some  other 
folks,  but  this  ought  to  be  a  new  record.  In 
pro  basketball,  Houston  didn't  play  last  night. 
Currently,  Baltimore,  Boston,  Milwaukee,  and  Los 
Angeles  lead  the  divisions.     In  pro  hockey, 
Alberta  beat  the  Houston  Aeros ,  3  tc  2.     The  big 
news  in  Houston  sports  is  a  City  Council  approval 
of  the  Greenway  Plaza  as  a  site  for  the 
10-1/2-million-dollar  sports  arena.     And  finally 
in  -  Christmas  shopping  is  in  ftill  swing.  Christ- 
mas trees  are  in  tents ,  on  street  corners ,  and 
supei-market  sites  all  over  the  area.  Private 
homes  throughout  the  whole  area  are  lighting  up 
with  decorations  ranging  from  happy  Santa  Clauses 
in  sleighs  to  nativity  scenes.     It  will  be  a 
Christmas  world  waiting  for  you  when  you  come  hone. 
And  that  ends  our  summary  for  this  morning. 

CMP  That's  a  good  summary;  appreciate  it.     Little  bit 

of  everything  in  there. 


CC 


Yes,  it  looks  like  Mr.  Kokowsky  [?]  reads  a  lot 
of  newspapers  there. 


CMP  (Laughter)     He  sure  did. 

07  11  25  29     CC  Okay,  Ron.     We're  picking  up  some  thermal  problems 

on  the  pan  camera.     Would  you  manually  roll  left 
to  30  degrees  and  we'll  hold  it  until  we've 
passed  -  you  know  the  terminator  -  or  cross  the 
terminator. 


CMP 


Okay, 


Tape  119B/T 


CC  And,  Eon,  that  terminator  crossing  comes  fairly- 

close  to  the  burn,  so  you  might  think  about  - 
if  it  looks  agreeable  to  you,  just  go  ahead  and 
we'll  use  that  as  the  burn  attitude.     You'll  have 
to  get  a  new  PUO  trim  to  take  care  of  the  ginibal 
offsets.     So  you  may  see  a  slight  Pitch  and  Yaw 
attitude  change. 

CMP  Okay;  that's  no  problem.     I'll  just  roll  left  and 

then  use  a  PUl  trim. 

CMP  (Cough)     I  hit  ACCEL  COMMAND  to  make  that  90-dee:- 

roll  the  other  day,  or  just  a  while  ago.     And,  i :' 
you  hit  your  stick  a  little  too  hard,  you  really 
wrapped  it  up  to  a  little  better  than  a  degree  a 
second.     So,  you  can  really  get  a  sensation  of 
roll,  especially  when  you  can  see  the  Moon. 

07  11  28  01    CMP  How's  that?    Pretty  good  attitude? 

CC  Looks  like  we're  going  to  have  to  go  a  little  b: t 

further.    Why  don't  you  give  us  5  or  10  more? 

CMP  Okay,  I  didn't  let  go  of  the  stick  - 

GO  You're  learning  our  tricks,  aren't  you? 

CMP  (Laughter)     Used  a  teacup  of  gas  there. 

CC  Okay,  now  -  now,  you're  in  good  shape. 

07  11  28  33    CMP  Okay,  we'll  stop  it  right  there,  then.  About 

35  degrees  or  so. 

CMP  Anything  to  make  you  happy. 

07  11  30  22    CMP  Okay.     I  just  made  a  DELTA-V  check  while  ago  and 

it  was  minus  22.2.  Bias  check  was  a  mi  -  let's 
see,  went  from  100  to  100.9  in  a  minute  and  ko . 


CC  Okay . 

CMP  ...  RATE  2;  auto  RCS,  a  little  light.     And  let's 

see  -  Okay,  we'll  turn  off  six  ...  Let's  see,  the 
DELTA-V^.     353.8  for  the  DELTA-V^.     Okay;  SIM  bay 

I  checked  it  a  while  ago,  3MAGs  are  RATE  2,  AUTO 
RCS  SELECTS  are  okay.     Okay.     ...     7^l6 ,  that's 


pretty  good.  Okay,  plus  0.38  and  a  plus  0.92. 
That's  all  right.  Okay,  VERB  -  ho&d  my  own,  I 
guess,  it  looks  like,  dcJn't  I? 

Yes,  sir.    When  they  gave  you  the  up-link,  they 
had  to  put  in  the  -  the  trim  "burn. 

Yes,  that's  right.     Plus  l80-2  ENTER.     Plus  - 
182:33:53  ...  -  - 

Looks  good. 

-  -  all  right.     25,  ENTER.    Okay;  NOUN  8ls ,  15-9, 
minus  IT.     Okay;  Y  is  a  minus  365.5.     Z  -  9  - 
minus  9  ENTER.    Okay;  17-9,  365.5.  minus  6.9, 
PROCEED . 

Okay,  they  look  good  here. 
{ Cough )    Okay . 

The  computer  thinks  we're  going  tc  be  circular, 
63.0  by  63.0.     Of  course,  that's  impulsive,  I 
guess.     366.0  for  total,  that's  right.  Okay. 
19  -  on  the  DET.     Okay,  I  got  the  DET  going.  I 
think  my  sextant  star  check's  not  going  to  be  any 
good  here. 

Okay,  we  can  give  you  another  one  here  if  you'd 
like  that . 

They  been  scurrying  around  here,  and  got  you  some 
new  numbers . 

I  don't  see  any  reason  -  Oh  really,  I'll  do  it 
just  for  the  heck  of  it. 

Okay  

Got  time  here  -  let's  see,  19  minutes  -  - 
Okay  

...  I'll  just  let  you  read  them  to  me  as  I  get 


Tape  119B/9 


CC  All  right,  sir,  it's  a  shaft  of  237-2,  when  you 

get  there . 

CMP  Okay.     Plus  -  What  did  you  say  it  was?  - 

GC  237.20. 

CMP  Shaft?     237.20  ENTER.    Okay.  Trunnion? 

CC  Okay,    That's  27.U80. 

07  11  36  23    CMP  Okay.    We're  CMC.    Optics  are  -  . . .    No,  it's  the 

wrong  calculation  (laughter). 

CC  Okay,  well,  we're  off  in  roll   

CMP  What  star's  it  supposed  to  he   

CC  -  -  by  a  degree  from  where  he  calculated  it . 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  It's  supposed  to  he  good  old  star  number  22. 

CMP  Oh,  I  can't  see  squat  in  the  telescope.  Hey, 

there  it  is . 

CC  Okay,  you're  passing  through  the  right  roll  angle 

so  it  -  - 

CMP  Okay;  yes,  that's  it. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Outstanding! 

CMP  Okay,  VERB  37  EKTER,  GO  ENTER.     DIRECT  and  HIGH 

MANUAL.     ...  Optics  zeros.     Okay.     Put  those 
things  up  for  a  minute.     (Huraming)     Okay.  There. 
C Cough)     358  and  314,  that  didn't  change  very  much. 
Okay . 

07  11  38  1+3    CMP  Okay,  it  says  we're  there.     Set  IMU. 


CMP 


Wrong  pitch.     Acts  just  like  the  simulator,  you 
can't  tell,  I  thought  when  you  got  in  the  space- 
craft that  if  you're  I80  ...  it's  supposed  to 


Tape  119B/10 


flop  l)ack  and  forth,  but  it  doesn't  do  it.  Okay; 
326,  357.5,  and  atiout  315 .1+.     Let's  see,  align 
the  GDC. 

07  11  hi  06     CMP  (Cough)     Okay.     It's  easy  to  see  those  lines. 

STAB  CONTROL.     DIRECT  ULLAGE  breakers  are  going  IN. 
PITCH  1,  YAW  1.     Okay.     ...  and  SPS  breakers  are  IN 
MAMJAL  ATTITUDE  -  RATE  COMMAND.     Okay,  looks  like 
about  DEADBAND  MIN  RATE  to  LOW  -  ...  is  in  RATE 
COMMAND.     LM  only.     GIMBAL  DRIVE  is  in  AUTO.  We're 
down  to  the  6-minute  check.     Okay,  we  won't  have 
any  manual  starts  on  this  one.     Do  not  restart  it. 
If  it  quits,  we'll  shut  it  down  at  burn  time 
plus  1.  only.     Back  to  zero  and  the  n  trim  Y , 

I  guess.     All  axis  -  Y  and  Z  just  a  little  ... 
trim  X.     Okay,  we  scratched  out  the  part  -  we're 
going  to  turn  the  tape  recorder  on,  right? 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  At  12  seconds  for  ullage.     Burn  time  was  20  seconds. 

07  11  hk  13     CC  Okay,  and  you're  GO  from  this  end. 

CMP  Okay., 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


Hey,  refresh  my  memory  on  the  mission  rules  there, 
Ken,  could  you?     If  it  doesn't  start  on  bank  A, 
do  we  start  on  bank  B? 

Stand  by.     We're  -  we're  making  sure  we're  goini: 
to  tell  you  the  right  thing,  here. 


CMP  Okay.     I  was  a  little  confused  about  the  no 

MANUAL  STARTS.  That's  not  a  manual  start  to  me, 
though . 


Okay,  Ron.  The  rule  says,  "If  no  start  on  A, 
try  E." 


07  11  k6  hi    CMP  Okay.     That's  what  I  thought.     (H-ammLng)  Plenty 

of  battery  juice  here.     Let's  go  to  A,  ON  -  and  B, 
is  ON  and  coming  up  -  Okay,  fuel  cell  3,  -Dressure 
is  all  right  in  2-A;  and  2-3  is  okay.     And  iffiLIUM 


Tape  119 B/ 11 


VALVES  are  in  AUTO,  we're  in  DECREASE;  and  the 
OXIDIZER  FLOW  VALVE  PUG  MODE  is  PRIMARY.  PRIMARY, 
DECREASED,  and  NORMAL .     Okay.     That's  a  lot  of  work. 
I'd  like  to  get  strapped  in  a  little  bit  here. 

07  11  ^8  OU    CMP  Okay.     Bus  tie  -  I  forgot  the  crazy  tape  recorder. 

COMMAND  RESET  -  here  we  go.  Okay,  Helium  valves, 
I  did  that.  SERVO  POWER  1.  Okay  -  number  2,  back 
to  AC. 


07  11  U8  39    CMP  M-AEK    DIRECTs  are  OFF.     BMAGs  are  uncaged.     Oka>  , 

no  hardovers.     Okay.     Go  to  SCS.     HMD  CONTROLLEi' 
number  2  is  ARMED.     Okay.     PITCH  1,  got  it;  YAW  ' , 
we  got  it.     Okay.     Trim  is  about  set  there;  okay. 
Yaw  is  0.9;  PITCH  is  about  -  kazink,  kazink , 
kazink,  kazink.     Okay;  we  have  the  trim.  Okay. 
Give  it  back  to  the  computer.     Returns  to  zero. 
THC  clockwise;  no  MTVC.     Okay;  PITCH  2;  got  it; 
YAW  2,  got  it.     Ah  ha!     We  have  the  trim  plus  0.. 
and  -  plus,  plus,  minus.     Okay;  give  it  back  tc 
the  computer.     No  MTVC. 

07  11  h9  59    CMP  Okay;  3  minutes  to  go.     THC.     Okay.     On  the  AC. 

DIRECTS  are  ON.     Cage  the  old  BMAGs.     KEY  RELEA_.  . 
PROCEED  for  the  final  trim.     Got  a  6l8.     D-l8  says 
we're  there.     Okay;  we'll  ENTER  that.     20ii.  Do 
you  want  a  glmbal  test  option?     Yes.     Plus  2, 
minus  2,  0,  plus  2,  minus  2,0.     300k,  Okay; 
we  have  the  trim  with  3  minutes  to  go.     Okay;  LIMIT 
CYCLE'S  back  OFF.     ...  burn,  we'll  go  RATE  to  HIGH 
(cough).     DET  looks  good;  we've  got  a  20-second  burn. 
Shutdown  on  21  seconds. 


07  11  51  37    CMP  Okay.     DELTA  -V  in  STANDBY.     Have  CMC,  GDC,  RATE 

COMMAND;  LIMIT  CYCLE,  OFF;  DEADBAND,  MIN ;  RATE 
to  HIGH;  TRANS  CONTROL  POWER  is  OFF.  DIRECTs 
are  both  OFF;  CMC,  AUTO.     Okay.     There  we  go; 
missed  one.    ATTl/RATE  2  on  the  old  BMAGs.  RATE 
COMMAND;  all  four  GIMBAL  MOTORs  are  ON,     We're  CSM 
on  the  CG.     ...  LOGIC,   ...  ROLL,  ROLL;  Alpha;  S-IVB. 
PITCH  is  AUTO;  DET  is  working;  ARMED,  ARMED. 

07  11  52  17    CMP  Okay;  at  l6 ,  AUTO  RCS  SELECTS,  OK;  circuit  breakers 

are  still  good  (humming).     Okay.     I'm  waiting  for 
30  seconds  when  ...  the  NORMAL  TRANS  CONTROL  PO'^R 
and  the  DELTA-V  THRUST  A  switch. 


Taue  119B/12 


07  11  53  21    CMP  EMS  Gj  EMS  to  NORMAL;  TRMS  CONTROL  POWER  is  ON; 

and  DELTA-V  THRUST  A  is  ON,     Okay;  four  jets, 
12  seconds.  (Humming) 

QT  11  53  i+5    CMP  Okay;  ve  have  ullage.     Okay;  699,  PROCEED. 

07  11  53  56    CMP  3  -  oh  -  okay!    There  we  go!     We  got  ignition 

about  87.    Okay;  number  2  is  coming  ON;  we're  up 
to  90  on  the  DELTA-V  .    Wait  a  minute!     Okay;  913. 

Looking  good.     Okay;  ROLL  ERROR  is  OFF.    That's  all 
right;  we're  done.  3,1- 

07  11  5^  16     CMP  SHUTDOWN  -  automatic!     Okay;  minus  9 . 5  on  the  EMS. 

Okay;  366.8.     Let's  PROCEED  to  stop  the  rates  here. 
6.8.    Okay;  man,  look  at  those  85s!     I 'm  a  little 
bit  off,  but  that's  good.     Okay;  PITCH  2;  got  it; 
YAW  2;  got  it;  and,  number  1,  got  it;  number  1, 
got  it.     Okay;  SERVO  THRUST  is  OFF.     Well,  let's 
see.     I've  forgotten  what  it  feels  like.  Ha! 
That's  pretty  neat.     Okay;  that  was  okay.  Somehow 
we  got  a  0.3  in  there.     That's  in  X  anyhow.     Y  is 
zero;  that's  what  I  want.     Z  is  all  right,  so  we'll 
Just  leave  it  that  way.     I'll  PROCEED  with  the 
changes  again.     That  Just  changed.     Okay;  00  ENTER. 
Okay;  VERB  6  NOUN  20  ENTER.     Okay;  I  presume 
you're  reading  the  DSKY ,  haven't  you  been,  Houston? 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

Cl^P  Three.    The  time  as  near  as  1  could  tell  was  pretty 

good.     V      -  What  did  I  say  -  366.8,  I  think. 

CjA 

DELTA-V    is  a  minus  9-5;  tail  off  is  11  or  some- 

thing.     12.2.     Okay;  let's  get  seme  more  switches 
off.     TRASfS  CONTROL  POWER  -  okay  -  LOCKED,  LOCKED. 

07  11  56  36    CMP  TRANS  CONTROL  POWERs  are  OFF;  DIEECTs  are  OFF; 

DIRECT  ULLAGE  circuit  breakers  are  OPEN;  PITCH  1, 
YAW  1  are  OPEN.     Okay.     EMS  FUNCTION  is  OFF.  MODE 
is  STAND  -  RATE  2.     Okay.    We'll  come  and  p^et  the  bus 
ties.     (Humming)     Hey,  that  was  a,  neat  burn  ... 
( cough ) . 


CC 


Feels  more  like  an  airplane,  that  way,  doesn't  it? 


Tape  119B/13 


07  11  57  30    CMP  Yes .     Yes .     It  was  kind  of  like  an  ai"terb-urner 

that  time.     Okay.    A  BAT  BUS  AC  is  OFF;  BC  is  OFF. 
Not  too  bad.     Okay;  we're  MAIN  A.    Must  be  -  little 
oxidizer,  yes.     0.6.    Fuel  is  2B,h  ...  and  balance 
is  minus  -  Now,  let's  see  -  about  U60 ,  I  guess. 
Thing  going  in  the  right  direction? 

CC  We  don't  think  the  PUGs  really  ever  stabilized. 

CMP  I  don't  think  it  did,  either.     Okay;  AC  ROLL 

switches  are  OFF,  now. 

07  11  59  20     CC  And,  Ron,  we're  ready  to  give  you  some  nav  stuff  in 

the  computer  whenever  you're  -  pass  by  and  can 
give  us  ACCEPT. 

CMP  Okay.     You  have  ACCEPT.    While  you're  doing  that, 

I'll  do  the  post-SPS  SIM  prep  cue  card. 

CC  All  righty. 

CMP  I'd  really  forgotten  how  that  thing  kicks  you  in 

the  seat  of  the  pants.     I  guess  I  must  have  been 
floating  off  the  seat  a  little  bit  more  this 
time  than  I  was  on  the  -  the  rest  of  the  burns. 

07  12  00  26     CMP  Okay.     PAN  CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF;  and  the  old  LOGIC 

POWER  should  go  to  DEPLOY /RETRACT .     Okay,   ...  down 
is  A,  down  is  B.     DEPLOY /RETRACT .     Got  -  to  inhibit 
all  jets.     Okay,  we'll  inhibit  the  -  all  except  the 
ROLL,  right  now. 

07  12  01  30    CMP  On  -  okay.     I'll  just  inhibit  the  ROLL  1,  DELTA  1, 

and  then  I  can  start  the  -  Yes,  here's  the  DAP 
now.     You  through  with  the  computer? 

CC  Okay.    We're  through.    It's  your  computer. 

CMP  Okay .     And  -  . . .  two ,  OR  -  OFF  now .     CAMERA  LASER 

ALTIMETER,  OPEN.     Barber  pole  in  the  gray.     20  ENTER. 
22  ENTER,  5  ENTER,  plus-X  SIM  bay  att .     2.25-2  ENTER. 
We  are  going  to  use  a  2-1/2-degree  dead  band  this 
time.     Fifty  is  around  the  Moon.  Okay. 


Tape  119B/14 


07  12  05  18    CMP  276  plus  2.     ...   (laughter)     Different  attitudes. 

07  12  06  21+    CMP  I  think  I'll  make  a  cup  of  coffee. 

CC  Ron,  I've  got  your  pan  camera  photo  pads  vhen 

you're  ready. 

CMP  Okay.     I  just  happen  to  be  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay.     T-start,  l83:!+8:itl;  T-stop,  l81+:06:l+3. 

CMP  Okay . 

07  12  10  ik    CMP  Ken,  I'm  just  now  remembering  one  of  your  comments 

from  l6  that  we  didn't  get  done  on  this  extra  comm 
carrier  cloth  -  there's  cloth  here,  you  know, 

CC  Uh  huh. 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Don't  need  any  extra  electronics,,  but  we  sure 
could  use  another  cloth  hat  (lau^^ter). 

Oh,  you  can  wash  it  off.     You  probably  do  that 
inadvertently. 

(Laughter)     I  already  have.     I  didn't  wash  it 
with  the  right  thing  though. 

(Laughter)    I  was  wondering  if  yc.u  would  own  up 
to  that.     Hey,  the  good  Doctor  o\er  here  says 
that  your  traces  are  flat  lines .     Thought  you 
ought  to  be  aware  of  that. 

CMP  Oh,  they  are? 

CC  You  feel  okay? 

CMP  They're  kind  of  itching  it  -  They're  kind  of 

itch  -  Yes,  I'm  okay.  But  they're  kind  of  itching 
anyhow.     I  feel  like  I  ought  to  change  them  so  - 

CC  Okay.    That  would  really  make  hiir  happy. 

CMP  No  wonder  they're  flat  lines  -  It's  unplugged. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Said  something  sooner  (laughter). 


Tape  119B/15 


CC  All  righty.    We're  about  k  minutes  from  LOS, 

and  all  systems  have  been  looked  at,  and  they're 
all  looking  okay.     So,  guess  ve'll  see  you  on 
tother  [sic]  side. 

CMP  Okay.     How's  my  stuff,  nov  that  I  got  plugged  in. 

CC  We  don't  see  anything,  yet. 

CMP  Didn't,  huh? 

CMP  Well,  I  needed  to  change  them  anyhow  so  - 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  I'll  try  to  - 

CC  Looks  like  you  hit  something  there  when  you  did 
that . 

CMP  I  was  just  shaking  my  coffee. 

CC  I  tell  you,  it  sure  put  life  in  the  signal. 

CMP  It  did? 

CC  How  are  those  "binoculars  working  out? 

CMP  They're  working  real  good.     I  find  I  have  a  "bit 

of  a  pro"blem  holding  them  still,  though. 

CC  Yes,  they're  about  the  max  magnification,  I 

think ,  that  you  can  hand  hold . 

CMP  Yes. 

CC  Have  you  tried  looking  in  earthshlne  at  it?  See 

if  you  can  pick  up  anything  there? 

CMP  Yes.     And  they  just  don't  quite  look  as  -  let 

enough  light  through,  I  don't  think,  in  earthshlne. 
In  other .words ,  you  can  see  better  with  the  naked 
eye;  but  they  don't  -  they  don't  let  enough  light 


through  the  binocs  to  enhance  your  image  capability 
at  all . 


Tape  II9B/I6 


CC  Okay.     I  was  curious  because  I  ncticed  in  the  - 

in  the  dark  shadows  in  the  daylight  side,  that 
they  did  bring  out  things  that  ycu  couldn't  see 
with  the  naked  eye.     I  guess  that's  contrast 
that  does  that . 

CMP  Yes,  I  noticed  that  too.     Yes,  ycu  can  look  down 

in  the  shadow  of  a  -  of  a  crater,  where  you  got 
the  Sun  down  there,  but  if  you  have  more  backlight- 
ing or  something.     You  know,  but  you  can  -  you  can 
see  that  pretty  good  with  the  naked  eye,  anyhow. 
Earthshine,  now,  about  all  I  can  get  out  of  the 
earthshine ,  really,  are  differences  in  albedo. 
And  you  can  get  some  -  textural  -  Well,  not  so 
much  textural  differences,  but  terrain  bumps  and 
humps,  and  flow  fronts,  and  -  see  craters,  you 
know? 

CC  I  wish  I  was  there  with  you. 

07  12  15  30    .CMP  I  tell  you,  I  had  no  idea  how  interesting  and  how 

much  fun  it  would  be.    After  the  first  day,  and 
I  finally  got  over  the  -  I  guess  you  could  -  I 
don't  know.    You'd  call  it  the  effects  of  adapting 
to  zero  g  or  something.     But  you're  just  a  little 
bit  woozy.     You  really  don't  feel  like  doing  a  heck 
of  a  lot  that  first  day  up.    So,  it's  good  that  the 
first  day  is  kind  of  -  - 


07  12  35  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  KEV  1+9 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  120B/1 


APOLLO  17  AlR-TO-GROlMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


07  13  00  22    CMP  Is  that  -  jets  are  enabled,  that  C-1  and  C-2  for 

roll,  OFF.     Pitch  and  yaw  are  off.     And,  Houston, 
ready  for  PAW  CAMERA  to  STANDBY  and  STEREO  to 
POWER  and  all  those  good  things  whenever  you  are. 

CC  Roger,  America.     We're  standing  by. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You  can  go  PAW  CAMERA  to  STANDBY. 

CMP  CAMERA  is  -  Hey!     Good  morning,  Robert.     How's  it 

going? 

CC  Real  fine.     Real  fine.     Lousy  weather,  but  we're 

all  here. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     Let's  see  -  PAN  CAMERA  -  that's 

verify  STANDBY.     Okay,  it's  going  up  to  STEREO. 
Turn  the  old  POWER  switch  OK.     The  V/H  is  still  in 
HIGH  ALTITUDE. 

07  13  01  kh    CC  You  may  be  interested.     We  just  woke  up  the  Chal- 

lenger, or  maybe  they  woke  us  up,  I  guess.  They 
gave  us  a  song  here  from  -  from  there  first  and 
they're  all  fine  and  they.' re  in  their  Surface 
Checklist  -  getting  ready  for  ascent. 

CMP  Hey,  great!     Okay,  I  ought  to  get  my  prep  for 

transfer  ready  here.     You  know,  kind  of  last  night 
and  also  this  morning  as  I  was  flying  across  the 
oack  side  of  the  Moon  here  -  been  thinking  a  little 
bit,  and  I  wonder  -  It  seems  like  that  the 
Aristarcinian-age  craters,  you  know  the  ones  that 
are  fairly  -  fairly  fresh,  you  know  they're  not 
Copernican  -  They  don't  nave  rays  and  this  tyoe 
thing,  but  tney're  fairly  fresh  in  their  slurroirg 
characteristics  on  the  inside  and  this  ty^^e  thirg. 
iiut  they  all  seen  to  have  a  mare  floor;  you  know°- 
a  flat,  iza.re  floor  -  a  volcanic-type  floor  in  the- 
thing,  and  I  wonder  if  taere's  anybodv  that's 
tried  to  corie  up  with  tne  theory  at  all  tnat  mayoe 
\-cu  naa  a  ^icuia  nantle  during  the  -  the  i-a-istar- 
cinian  era  auring  the  formation  of  the  Moon,  you 


Tape  120B/2 


knov.    And  those  craters  at  that  point  in  time 
were  -  vera  penetrating  that  -  that  liquid  mantle. 

CC  It's  a  thought.     Roger,  Ron.     That's  a  good  thought. 

You  get  kind  of  the  feeling  like  you're  seeing  - 
like  out  Hawaii  where  craters  like-  stick  up  out  of 
the  ocean  and  you  see  the  walls  of  the  craters  in 
the  ocean  up  in  amongst  them.     Ths.t's  the  kind  of 
feeling  you  get? 

07  13  03  57    CMP  Must  not  be  because  I  don't  know  for  sure  what 

you  mean  { chuckle ) . 

CC  Roger. 


CMP 


CMP 


I  guess  the  feeling  I  was  getting  is  that  most 
the  Aristarcinian-age  craters  all  nave  some  sort 
of  a  mound  -  a  domical  structure  down  in  the  bottom 
of  the  crater.     You  knov,  even  the  smaller  ones 
some  -  some  of  the  -  the  30  -  50  kilometer  si  -' 
class,  you  know?    And  the  -  you  know,  the  flat 
floor  -  they  look  -  they  look  volcanic  or.  the 
floor.     Some  of  the  bigger  ones,  of  course,  thev're 
definitely  volcanic  -  lava  flows  on  the  floor  of 
these  big  craters.     The  slumping  of  the  walls  is 
not  as  fresh  as  a  Copernican-age  f:'a  -  crater, 
but,  you  know,  they  -  It's  not  all  beat  uid  ,  either. 
The  vails  -  the  crater  walls  had  a  sl-umping  coming 
down  through  there  and  it's  still  fairly  fresh  in 
the  slumping,  but  you  don't  have  any  rays  shoving 
up  on  the  outside  of  the  crater.     So  they're  Kind 
of  Aristarcinian  age. 


CC  Roger;  copy. 


And  -  and  all  -  all  of  the  craters  t'.at  a.re 
age  have  the  mare  fill  in  them,  yot.  Itr.ow? 


07  13  05  30    CC  Roger. 


CKP  Like  there's  -  there  must  have  bee.',  .icir.e  vol 

activity  during  that  period  of  time. 


sues 


r.!y  leeimgs  were,  Ron,  th^t  -  Vvh  — 
trying  to  say  is  -  - 


Tape  120B/3 


365,  3  -  Go  ahead. 

If  you  had  a  -  If  you'd  had  a  liquid  mantle  and 
the  crater  sticking  up  through  it,  you  might  have 
the  mare  not  only  on  the  floor  of  the  crater,  but 
the  mare  would  be  on  the  exterior  walls  of  the 
crater.     You'd  see  a  high-water  mark  along  the 
exterior,  wouldn't  you? 

Oh,  I  see  what  you're  saying.     Yes.     No,  you  -  you 
had  to  have  some  sort  of  a  solid  crust  and  then  the 
impacts  hit  the  solid  crust  and  broke  through  the 
crust  and  got  down  into  the  liq^uid  mantle. 

Okay.     Wow  I  got  you,  Ron. 

That's  the  type  of  operation  I  was  thinking  about. 
Roger.     I  got  you. 

Yes.     You  know,  but  it  would  have  to  be  a  rela- 
tively thin  crust. 

Roger.  Understand. 

Okay.     I've  got  the  temporary  stowage  bags  all 
set.     ***     (Humming)     From  the  decon  bags  on  A-2  - 
got  one  bag  of  ropes  in  there  -  put  those  -  Where 
can  I  put  those?    Right  hand  -  yes,  okay.  That's 
in  the  right-hand  temporary  stowage  bay. 

Okay,  Ron.     You're  coming  up  on  1  minute  to  psin 
camera  T-start .     I'll  call  you  in  30  seconds. 

Okay. 

Okay,  30  seconds  to  T-start  time. 

Okay,  I'll  say  we  started  at  -  excuse  me,  I've 
got  a  piece  of  candy  in  my  mouth  -  6:^1. 
Camera  will  go  to  OPERATE. 


^0. 


Tape  120B/1+ 


^oger;  gox  it. 

Bob,  if  you  want  to  keep  your  eye  on  the  clock  ror 
me,  I  11  -  ...  transfer  bags  -  - 

CC  Don't  sweat  the  camera,  Ron,  I'll  _  I'n  cue  you 

Just  forget  the  pan  camera  and  I'll  cue  vou  ahout 
a  minute  prior  to  pan  camera  stop. 

07  13  09  28    CMP  Okay.     This  Jett  bag  is  so  full  of  Junk,  I  aor'-c 

know  If  I  can  get  it  through  the  tunnel. 

07  13  10  00    CMP  Okay.     Stow  the  old  rope  in  the  ri,,ht-nana  tem- 

porary -  right  hand,  okay.     That's  mine.  Did 
that.     Decon  hag  straps  from  top  of  A-2  and  lang 
on  L-3.     Okay,  that's  the  way  it's  been  for  a 
long  time.     Remove  two  jett  bags,  vacuum  bag,  and 
the  vacuum  cable  from  A-2.     Okay,  the  cables  are 
already  in  the  bag.     Yes.     Empty  je;tt  bag,  the 
vacuum  bag,  and  the  cable  in  left-Land  temporary 
stowage  -  put  them  in  last  night.     Ah,  ves  that's 
m  .here.     Okay,  let's  see.     Stow  the  empty  je-t  - 
Oh,  I  did  that,  okay.     Replace  remaining  jetz  bag 
on  A-2,  and  load  with  following.     Ckay    A-9  is 
empty,  so  I  got  that.     Fecal  bags?     Oh]  thos^  are 
the  empty  ones.     Oh,  and  -  yes,  we've  got  some  extra 
ones  on  here.     Heat  flow  experiment  -  uid  a  .^ooa 
job  and  now  it's  going  down  the  tubes.     OKay°  it's 
m  the  bag.     Okay,  the  helmet  shield.     ***  WG's. 

07  13  11  55     CMP  Extra  ones.     Okay,  that's  all  four  of  them.  There 

forgot  to  take  that  one  off. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     Fnen  you  can  reach  up,  we'd  1- <e 

GAKI,  AUTO.  " 


07  13  Ih  h7 
07  15  19  3i 


hIGH  GAIN  to  -  where  is  it  -  AUTO. 

Oops.     Just  about  threw  away  my  PRD„  (Cn.ckle) 
that,  wo-Lildn't  we? 


Okay.     Get  all  of  that  old  food  dowr. 


:ere 


Tape  120B/5 


CMP  You  know,  that's  sure  good  tape  that  they  put  on 

those  food  hags.     It's  a  lot  better  than  that  roll 
of  tape  that  we  have. 

07  13  21  37     CC  Roger. 

CMP  (Whistling,  humming) 

CMP  Then  to  number  2,  small  jett  bags.     And  I  can't 

get  anything  else  into  1. 

07  13  22  29     CC  Roger. 

CMP  I  don't  need  that  circuit  breaker  handle  any  more, 

either,  but  I  guess  I'll  bring  it  -  The  277  circuit 
breaker . 

07  13  23  12    CC  Yes,  we  understand. 

07  13  25  11    CMP  (Cough) 

CMP  Okay.     Remove  CWGs  and  interconnects  from  A-8, 

stow  in  right-hand  temporary  stow  -  Okay,  well, 
I'll  put  a  -  ***  CWGs  in  each  guy's  temporary 
stowage  bag  -  - 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You're  1  minute  from  pan  camera 

T-stop  time. 

CI^P  _  _  A-8.     Okay.     -  **«  we  at. 

CC  I'll  give  you  another  cue  in  at  30  seconds. 

CMP  ...  get  that  one,  then.  Okay. 

C-'-lP  I  forgot  -co  write  down  T-sxop.     What  zime  is  it? 

CC  It's  lSi+: 06:43.     And  you  -  You're  abou-;;  30  sec- 

onds from  T-3top  time  now. 

C:vIP  06: 43.     Okay,  06:i+3  we'll  shut  it  off.     Go  to 

STAJJDBY. 

07  IS  26  42     CC  JiARK,  T-3t  -  T-stop. 


Tape  120B/6 


07  13  26  he     CMP  mSK  it.     Stop.     Okay?     Hey,  while  I'm  tninkir.g 

atout  it,  I  started  the  -  the  mapping  camera  and 
laser  altimeter  about  3  minutes  early  there  -  on 
the  hack  side. 

CC  Okay.     We  copy. 

CMP  Okay.     Got  a  - 

CMP  ***  the  old  vacuum  cleaner. 

CMP  ***  go,     ***  is. 

All  right.     Now,  if  I  can  find  the  cable  (h-umming) 


CMP 
CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


^1 


!MP 


Power  cable  in  the  vacuum  bag.     Ah,  there's  old 
vacuum  bag. 

Okay.     Vacuum  bag  here.     Butch,  from  the  sounds  of 
things,  those  guys  are  pretty  dirty  down  there. 
Probably  need  that  extra  bag. 


07  13  30  05    CC  Roger 
CMP 


(Euamiing)  Got  the  pins  on  it.  Gcing  to  unroll  . 
in  the  cable  (humming;  whistling). 

It  works.     Ah,     Good  little  vacuuii.  cleaner  we 
got  (chuckle).     Does  that  when  it  starts  up.  Let 
me  try  it  again.     Okay?     Watch  the  main  bus  B. 

Okay,  we'll  watch  main  bus  B. 


And,  let's  see  -  main  bus  B  -  3,  2, 


07  13  31  CMP  OK.     starting  ~  Yes,  what  got  me  -  It's  just  tne 

starting  torque  on  this  crazy  motor,  1  guess. 
Well,  it  works.     I'm  glad  I  tried  that  cut.  I'c 
hate  to  have  that  thing  while  we're  -  Oh,  I  l-cnov 
what  to  expect  now.     Nov,  if  tnis  thing  v.. 
down  here  between  F-2  and  the  MDC  .liKe'it ' 
supposed  - 


X  J.  O 


Tape  120B/7 


GC  Ron,  we're  going  to  think  about  that  a  while. 

Your  starting  current  was  a  little  higher  than  we 
expected  on  that.     We're  checking  through  the 
back  room, 

CMP  Okay.     I  wasn't  quite  expecting  it,  either 

( chuckle ) . 


CC 


CMP 


Gets  your  old  heart  rate  going  a  little  bit, 
Doesn't  it? 


07  13  33  09    CMP  Yes.     MaJtes  it  kind  of  go  pitty-pat. 


Okay.     Let's  see  now, 


CMP  Oh,  that's  Hadley  Rille.     Just  looked  out  the 

window.     Okay,  back  to  work  here.     Let's  see. 
Vacuum  brush  -  Did  that.     Power  cable  -  connect 
the  cable.     Stow  assembled  vacuum  between  F-2  and 
MDC,  okay.     Oh,  helmet  stowage  bags  -  I  can  put 
mine  down  there,  but  I  don't  have  theirs.  *** 
can  bring  them  across  (humming).     I  should  be 
able  to  get  that  right  there,  I  guess. 

CMP  Okay. 

07  15  35  02    CiVIP  ***  can't  get  those  darn  things  out. 

CMP  There  we  go. 

07  13  37  57    CMP  «»*  our  time  here?    Let's  see,  17.  Seventeen. 

We're  just  barely  -  barely  making  headway,  here 
***.    ^Okay  to  that.     Close  out  curtain  and  stow  in 
the  right-hand  temporary  stowage  bag.     Okay.  Good 
idea  and  Lhen  we  can  gez  in  there  and  put  them  old 
rockboxes  in  those  holes . 

Hey,  Ron.     Do  you  have  the  -  Did  you  -wrize  down 
tne  time  that  you  torqued  to  the  current  RE?SMM.A.T 
at  183  or  right  around  there? 

C.'^P  Yes,  I  sure  did.     I  meant  to  give  you  zhaz .     I '  .r, 

sorry.     Let  ne  give  it  -„o  you.     Okay,  I  did  a 
coarse  align,  and  I  torcued  at  133:01:^*5. 


Tape  120B/8 


CC  Thiaxik  you,  Ron,  and  while  we've  been 


CMP 


CMP 


CC 


CC 

CMP 

CC 


CMP 


Coarse-align  torquing  errors  were  -  K'oh? 


CC  Go  ahead. 


Okay,  coarse-aline  torquing  erros  were  minus  O.i+39, 
minus  T  -  0.798,  minus  0.092. 


CC  Okay . 

CMP   0.091. 


Got  that.  While  we've  interrupted  you,  we've  got 
two  little  things  down  here  -  - 


CMP  What's  that? 


  for  -  We  could  remind  you  on.     One  of  them  is 

that  the   -  - 


-  -  the  current  we  saw  on  the  -  ths  current  we 
saw  on  the  vacu\;mi  cleaner  was  just  about  nominal 
and  it  tripped  on  the  imdervolt  by  just  0.1  of  a 
volt,  so  we  -  it's  -  We  wouldn't  have  expected 
the  undervolt,  but  the  current  -  starting  torque 
current  was  just  about  nominal.     Aaid  the  other 
thing  is  -  is  that  we're  still  g€t-;ing  kind  of 
bad  data  on  the  EKG.     If  you  have  time,  you 
might  check  your  sensors.     There's  no  h-arry  on 
either  of  those. 

07  ^3  hO  59    CMP  Oh,  okay.     Let's  see.     Do  you  have  a  zodiacal 

light  photo  pad  yet? 

Soger.     I  got  it  right  here,  and  I've  -jo-;  -  off  a  - 
?24  landmark  "cracking  pads,  too,   i]^  you  '.vi.nx.  zo 
wait  until  30  or  take  them  now  -  cxiy  -  ycur  choice. 


Let  me  get  this  other  stuff  squared  away  first   

RofflBr . 


Tape  120B/9 


CMP  -  -  and  I'll  gex.     Got  about  two  more  things  to 

do,  looks  like,  then  I'll  be  all  done.     It's  a 
good  thing  I  did  half  of  it  last  night. 

CMP  (Humming) 

07  13  h2         C^^IP  (Humming)    Have  a  sugar-cookie  cube  for  a  little 

energy.     ***  R-12's  ... 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     PM  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF. 

CMP  CAMERA  POWER  - 

OT  13  k3  17     CMP  OFF. 

CMP  Bottom  of  PGA  bag,  insert  the  bottom  flap  in  the 

top  pocket.     Got  my  suit  in  there.    Won't  come 
out.    Take  my  suit  out,  I  guess. 

CMP  Okay.     Let's  see.     I  guess  we're  ready  to  take 

our  MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF,  huh?  -  What  you  said?  ... 
2h.     Yes.     Upper  -  it's  going  - 

07  13  h5  05    CMP  OFF. 

CMP  Okay.     I4APPING  CAMERA'S  going  to  STAHDBY. 

07  13  h6  05     CMP  OFF.     Barber  pole.     ***  ER's  going  OF?.  TRANS- 

PONDER is  going  to  HEATER.     Okay,  MAPPING  CAMERA/ 
LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER  -  CLOSED  -  Barber  pole. 
Gray.     Okay.     Those  all  three  are  closed.  In, 
TANK  3  ISOLATION  VALVES.     Okay,  we  can  go  to  POO 
and  turn  on  ***  2.     A-1  -  down  -  up  -  down.  Okay. 
A-2.     We  got  coupled  attitude. 

CMP  And,  Houston;  America.     I  am  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We're  ready  with  the  zodiacal,  light 

nad.     Zodiacal  light  at  1  -  T-start  time  - 
i81+:58:22. 

07  13        23    CMP  Okay,  T-start ,  l8i+:  58:22. 


Tape  120B/10 


CC  Okay,  and  over  at  l85:50,  we've  get  the  F-1  track- 

ing pad  and  17-1  tracking  pad  and  I  just  might  add 
that  we  will  not  give  you  the  tenths  of  a  secona 
on  the  T-2  time  because  these  are  high  altitude. 

Oh,  yes.    We  don't  need  those.  Okay. 

Okay.     F-1:     T-1  is  185:38:00;  T-2  is  42:50- 
TCA  is  l+ll:30;  T-3  is  45:18;  it's  north  9  -  09; 
north  09  nautical  miles. 

Okay,  F-1:     185:38:00;  42:50;  44:3D;  45:l8;  north 
9  miles.     That's  it,  I  guess. 


CMP 
CC 

CMP 


CC  Okay.     17-1.     You  ready? 

CMP  Yes. 


CC 


Okay.  185:57:25;  186:02:15;  03:55;  and  04:43. 
It's  south  03  nautical  miles. 


CMP  Okay,  17-1.    185:57:25;  186:02:15;  03:55;  04:43; 

south  3  miles . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     That's  the  pads.     I've  got  in  front 

of  me  right  now.     You're  up  to  date. 

CMP  Okay.     Thank  you. 

07  13  50  38    CMP  How  did  that  plane  change  -  the  tra.cking  work  out 

on  that  plane-change  burn?    Is  that,  okay? 

CC  As  far  as  I  know,  it  was  beautiful.     Let  me  check 

with  FDO  right  now.  It's  very  gooc.  Let  ir.e  -  let 
me  get  your  parameters  - 

cm  Okay. 

CC  They  don't  have  a  real  smooth  solution  yet,  on 

their  track,  but  it  is  real  good.     Ivo  proole.r.  at 
all . 

GI^P  :>ood,  okay.     Old  computer  comes  thro^^ai"-  &.i;ain. 


Tape  120B/11 


That's  affirmative.  I  guess  those  residuals  on  the 
SPS  burn  were  like  zero,  aren't  they? 

Yes .     That ' s  a  good  - 

...  P20.  Is  there  a  place  in  there  where  I  hook 
up  that  TV  camera?  I  think  I'm  going  to  do  that 
now.     ***  look  like  it. 

Okay,  let's  see  -  it's  30  something.     I  can  get  it 
out,  if  I  can  find  it.     Old  jett  bag  is  in  the 
way.     Don't  want  that  floating  all  over  the  place. 

And,  Bob,  will  you  give  me  a  clue  when  we're 
getting  ready  to  do  that  VERB  1+9? 

Yes.     You're  right  on  time  for  the  VERB  1+9;  it's 
37  in  the  Flight  Plan  and  it  is  37  right  now. 

Okay,  I  better  get  busy  on  it  I  guess. 

Two  -  Interesting.     024  I  guess  it  is. 

200  ENTER.     Okay  2l+  72  and  h.     ***  CMC  in  AUTC. 

Okay.     Nikon,  55-millimeter  ...   ***  2,  infinity. 
Mag  Yankee  Yankee  -  gives  frame  -  let's  see  -  ... 
lights  and  tape  the  old  floodlights.  Okay. 

Ron,  we'd  like  to  get  the        TAUK  2  FAN,  OFF, 
please?     I'll  say  again:     Hg  TANK  1  FAN  t:o  OFF. 

***  1  FAN  is  OFF.     1,  2  and  3  are  all  ON. 

Okay.     It's  time  to  run  the  radar  check.  It's 
been  in  HEATER  a  minute.     Okay.     ...  closed, 
okay.     Heater  for  21  minutes.     Power.     Okay,  A  - 
TRANSMITTER  A  and  she  is  reading  2.6.  Okay. 

...  TRANSPONDER  to  TEST  or  -  Okay,  you're  reading 
about  2.35-     Less  than  0.8.     Reads  0.3-  Saxr.e 
thing  as  it  did  before.     ***  that  one.  Ckay. 
Now  go  to  OPERATE  SYSTEMS  TEST.     O.K  right  hana 
to  sec  -  see  if  it  unlocks.     It  probably  wor-'t  do 
ai-.y-ching . 


Tape  120B/12 

07        09  25     CMP  Looks  like  RENDEZVOUS  RADAE  TRANSPONDER  SELF  TEST 

works.     Okay.     Systems  tests  goes  back  to  the  - 
Alfa  is  still  1.2. 

CMP  ***  to  HEATER.  Okay. 

CMP  Here  ve  go.     290  and  0.     Okay.     T-start  is  in 

there . 

CMP  ENTER,  plus  22  -  Okay,  NOUN  78 's,  VERB  2k,  NOUN 

ENTER . 


CMP 


Let's  see  -  0.5  ***  plus  one-half  degree  dead  band. 
Five  up  50  l8  2  and  k.     Looks  pretty  good.  Now, 
let's  see.     We  can  go  ahead  and  - 


CMP  Ah,  NOUN  - 

07  Ik  12  23     CC  Ron,  we're  couple  of  minutes  from  LOS  here  and 

you're  looking  good.     We'd  like  to  make  sure  you 
get  the  DATA  SYSTEM  OFF  and  just  a  comment  on 
the  rendezvous  transponder. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  121A/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


07  12  k9  59  CDR/ 

LMP-IjM      (singing:     Good  Morning  to  You) 

CC  (Music:     Thus  Spake  Zarathrustra  by  R.  Strauss) 

07  12  53  1^    CC  Good  morning.  Challenger  and  thank  you  for  the 

vocal  rendition  from  -  from  the  Moon,  there. 

CDR-LM      Well,  we  thank  you  for  your  kind  music.  We 

vanted  to  let  you  know  we  were  thinking  about 
you  this  morning,  Gordie. 

CC  You  just  beat  us  to  it,  but  -  - 

CDR-LM      That  was  a  great  song. 

CC  Decided  to  play  it  anyway,  because  it's  such  a 

-  such  a  pretty  selection. 

CDR-LM      I  think  it's  very  apropo  at  the  moment.     I  guess 
I  can  just  wait  for  "Hail  Purdue,"  huh? 

CC  Yes,  just  stand  by,  you'll  probably  hear  it 

before  you  get  back. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  we've  been  stirring  for  about  15  or 

20  minutes.     We're  in  the  midst  of  a  nice  ham- 
burger omelet  (laughter)  and  assorted  accessories. 
As  a  matter  of  fact,  it's  all  over  us.     And  if 
you'll  give  me  5  minutes,  I'll  be  ready  to  go 
on  the  PGNS,  unless  you  want  to  start  it  sooner. 

07  12  5U  37    CC  Okay,  we'll  -  No  hurry,  finish  up  and  get  cleaned 

up  there.     And  the  only  change,  we  have  some  change 
in  the  timing  as  far  as  the  checklist  so  we  can 
gain  back  the  time  we're  behind  now,  which  is 
actually  less  than  an  hour.     And  the  only  hard- 
ware change  other  than  deletions  is  to  -  that 
we'd  like  you  to  leave  Demand  REG  A,  CLOSED,  at 
all  times.     So  whenever  you  come  across  a  place 
t:hat  says  OPEN  at  CABIN  or  EGRESS,  we'd  like  you 
to  leave  it  CLOSED. 


Tape  121A/2 


LMP-LM 


Ckay,  Gordie.     We've  got  you  on  that. 


CDR-LM     And,  Gordie,  could  I  have  a  quiclt  status  report 
on  -  on  America  and  Challenger? 

CC  You  bet.     America  is  Just  as  good  as  gold,  just 

like  always .     Ron  got  off  the  trim  burn  on  the 
"back  side  followed  by  a  good  plane  change  on 
the  front  side.     In  fact  he  -  G8J^  cut-off  was  a 
tenth  and  -  or  less  in  all  axes.     Didn't  even 
need  to  trim  it.     So,  he's  in  abijut  a  62-1/2 
circular,  I  believe,  and  waiting  for  you  to  come 
up  and  Join  him. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  how's  his  consumables? 

CC  Stand  by. 

07  12  56  21     CC  Okay,  America's  consumables  are  great  and  so 

are  yours.     There  is  a  possibili-:y  we  may  have  to 
switch  to  ASCENT  WATER,  Just  prior  to  lift-off. 
Everything  really  is  in  good  shape. 

CDR-LM      Those  are  good  words,  Gordie.     T]iank  you. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  Gordie.     In  honor  of  one  of  your  comm 

handovers  last  night,  and  in  the  tradition  of 
Apollo  8,  I've  got  paraphrase  of  a  familiar 
poem  for  you. 

CC  Okay;  go  ahead. 

LMP-LM      Well,  it's  "The  week  before  Chriistmas  and  all 

t-hrough  the  IM,  not  a  commander  i/as  stirring,  not 
even  Cernan.     The  samples  were  stowed  in  their 
places  with  care,  in  hopes  that  with  you,  they 
soon  will  be  there.     And  Cernan  --  Gene  in  his 
hammock  and  I  in  my  cap,  had  jusl;  settled  our 
brains  for  a  long  -  short  lunar  nap.     But  out 
on  the  -  up  on  comm  loop  there  rcjse  such  a 
scatter,  I  sprang  from  my  hammock,  to  see  what 
was  the  matter.     The  Sun  on  the  breast  of  the 
surface  below  gave  the  luster  of  objects,  as  if  in 
snow.     And  what  to  my  wandering  eyes  should 
appear,  but  a  miniat'ore  Rover  ancL  eight  tiny 
reindeer.     And  a  little  old  driver  so  lively  and 


Tape  121A/3 


quick,  I  knew  in  a  moment,  it  must  be  St.  Nick. 
I  heard  him  exclaim  as  he  -  over  the  hills  he  did 
speed.     Merry  Christmas  to  all  and  to  all  -  to  you 
all  Godspeed. 

CC  Very  good. 

CDR-LM      Gordo,  that  was  the  first  time  I  heard  that  and 
I  got  to  say  -  I  got  to  say  that  is  beautiful. 

CC  I  agree.     Did  the  LI4P  get  any  sleep  or  did  he 

spend  all  night  composing  that? 

LMP-LM      People  always  said  we  ought  to  have  a  poet  in 
space . 

CDR-LM      I  don't  think  we've  made  it  yet. 

LMP-ffl      No,  for  some  reason  I  really  woke  up  with  one  of 

your  handovers  last  night,  and  that  was  how  I  went 
back  to  sleep. 

LI'IP-LM      Gordy ,  that '  s  for  the  kids  .  ... 

07  12  59  2h    CC  Roger,  Jack. 

OT  13  00  20     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     One  update  for  the  postsleep 

procedure.     I  understand  you  brought  in  the  LMP's 
camera,  and  we  want  to  be  sure  you  get  that  into 
the  jett  bag  before  the  final  jettison  here,  and 
by  the  way,  you're  STAY  for  the  final  jettison. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Gordy.  It's  already  in  the  jett  bag,  thank 
you. 

LMP-LM  And,  Gordy,  you  might  make  some  notes  that,  before 
I  put  it  in  there,  I  took  another  black-and-white 
or  black-and-white  window  pan  with  mag  Nancy. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.  Roger. 

CDR-LM      Gordo,  on  EEQ  A,  that  is  -  you  interpret  that  is 
just  a  small  leak  by  the  reg?     That  it  would  be 
usable,  if  you  had  to. 


That's  affirmative,  Geno.     It's  a  small  slow  leak 
and  it  is  usalDle  if  -  if  needed. 

Okay,  thank  you.  It's  coming  up  so  far,  I  think 
that's  all  -  all  the  system  anomalies  we've  got, 
isn't  it? 

That's  all  I  can  think  of  at  the  moment.     I  do  have 
revised  times  for  the  rest  of  the  Lunar  Surface 
Checklist  which,  at  a  convenient  time,  I  can  give 
to  you  -  so  that  you'll  have  a  how-goes -it  as  you 
go  on  down  the  line  here. 

Whiy  don't  you  give  them  to  us  now,  Gordy? 

Ckay,  turn  to  page  T-9 . 

Go  ahead. 

Okay,  7-9  LGC/IMU  POWER  UP,  change  that  time 
from  183 :  oil  to  l8i+:10.     The  eat  period  time  is 
now  l8ii:20.     Turn  the  page,  and  the  l83:59  above 
"Park  RENDEZVOUS  RADAR"  is  now  l35:05.  Next 
page,  don  suits  at  185:15.     Go  to  the  next  page. 
Prep  for  equipment  jettison  is  l35:50,  and  the 
same  page  -  helmet/glove  donning  is  l85:58.  Next 
page,  pressure  integrity  check,  l86:OU.  Cabin 
depress  is  l86:08,  and  hatch  opening  is  l86:12. 
Next  page,  lit,  cabin  repress  is  l86:15.  Cabin 
cleanup  for  launch  is  l86:20.     And  on  the  follow- 
ing page,  we're  going  to  delete  -;he  P22  but  we'd 
like  you  to  go  all  the  procedures  except  those 
from  "VERB  95  ENTER,"  through  "POO  ENTER," 
inclusive  -  the  center  section  of  procedures.  So 
you'll  still  be  closing  the  rendt^zvous  radar 
breakers,  going  to  LGG ,  and  parking  the  antenna 
and  copying  pad.  Over. 

Okay,  we're  going  to  delete  everj-thing  from  VERB  95 
through  POO  on  P22.     That's  the  center  of  the  page. 

That's  affirmative  and  then  the  next  page,  cabin 
prep  for  ascent  is  186:^5,  and  instead  of  39  min- 
utes we're  going  to  have  you  do  1:hat  in  3  minutes. 
And  you'll  actually  -  you  sho'lLd  have  a  little 
more  time  than  that,  since  you  got  up  early.  That 
puts  you  right  back  with  time  line,  at  lift-off 
minus  1  hour  15,  at  l86:U8.  Over. 


Tape  121A/5 


CDR-LM      Okay,  top  at  7-15  "where  we  pick  up  -  what  was 

going  to  be  the  'beginning  of  the  P22?     Have  you 
got  a  time  up  there? 

CC  I  guess  we'll  just  have  to  work  that  in  with  cabin 

cleanup  time.  We  had  deleted  that  whole  time  block 
but  you  do  have  to  catch  those  procedures. 

CDR~LM      Okay,  and  then  the  times  on  the  top  of  7-10,  for 
P22,  are  not  applicable,  and  I  guess  you  can  give 
us  an  update  for  our  P57  lift-off  time. 

07  13  05  55    CC  That's  affirmative.     We  might  -  that  might  be  - 

there ' s  a  couple  more  changes  coming  at  me  here 
but  let  me  make  sure  I  got  them  straight  and  I'll 
call  you  later.     Go  ahead  with  whatever  you  were 
doing. 


CDR-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      (Cough)    Gordy ,  if  I  -  if  I  get  ready  for  the 

LGC/IMU  power  up,  I'll  give  you  a  call  even  though 
it  comes  earlier  but  I'd  like  to  get  that  started, 
as  soon  as  we're  ready  to  start  it. 


CC  Okay.     We  concur  with  that. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  Gordy,  as  far  as  the  food,  medication,  and 
sleep  goes  -  no  medication.     Gene  had  5  hours  of 
good  sleep,  I  had  probably  around  my  usual  6,  in 
spite  of  my  poetic  inclinations.     And  the  food  - 
we  continued  to  do  well,  I  believe.     We've  eaten 
a  wet  pack  apiece  last  night.    We  got  one  this 
morning.     We've  eaten  our  scrambled  eggs  and 
sausage  yesterday,  and  as  we've  run  out  of  juices 
and  tea.     And  which  is  somewhat  of  an  inconvenience 
I  might  say.     And  if  you've  got  any  specific  q^ues- 
tions,  I  can  fill  you  in  on  it  but,  I  think,  food- 
wise  we've  done  pretty  well. 

CC  Can  you  give  us  a  feel  on  the  fluid  intake? 


LMP-LM 


Well,  that's  what  I  was  trying  to  do  when  I  said 
we'd  drunk  all  the  juices  and  tea.     Plus,  Gene, 
in  particular,  takes  water  from  the  hose. 


Tape  121A/6 

07  13  08  13    CC  Okay,  Jack,  fine.     Sounds  good. 

07  13  17  32    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  it's  PGNs  power  up  time. 

CC  Okay,  Geno,  1  -  and  I've  got  a  couple  more  items 

to  completely  clean  up  the  chectList  whenever  you 
can  get  to  that . 

CDR-LM      I'll  let  Jack  give  you  a  call.     I'm  going  to  start 
on  the  PGNs ,  if  we're  ready. 

CDR-LM      Gordy,  you  ready  for  a  PGN? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  finally  got  you  a  GO  to  start 

it  as  per  checklist. 

OT  13  l8  33     CDR-LM      Okay  there's  the  PRO,  I  did  get  the  RESTART.  I 

got  the  NO  ATT,  the  DAP,  GIMBAL  :L0CK  light,  and  a 
PROGRAM  ALARM  light's  on. 

CC  Roger. 

07  13  19  37     CDR-LM      MARK  it  the  gimbal  operate  breaker  is  CLOSED. 
CC  Roger. 

07  13  19  h8     LMP-LM      That's  the  IMU  OPERATE  breaker.     Yes.     Stand  by 

for  a  90  seconds . 

CC  And  we're  ready  for  a  POWER  AJ4P  l^RIMARY  and  HIGH 

BIT  RATE. 

07  13  20  10    CDR-LM      Okay.     You  got  it. 

07  13  27  35    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo,  self  test  is  complete  and  it's  GO, 

and  I'll  give  you  an  E-memory  dump. 

CC  Okay,  we're  ready,  standing  by  for  it.    And  while 

it's  coming,  I  could  give  you  the  update  for  the 
next  page . 

CDR-LM      Okay,  it's  coming  at  you  and  you  can  go  with  the 
updates  on  the  next  page . 

CC  Okay.     Page  7-10,  your  P57  lift-off  tine,  upper 

right  corner,  is  186:01:^+3.85-  Over. 


Tape  121A/T 


CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  P57  lift-off  time  188:01:43.85. 

CC  That's  affirmative.     And  now  we'd  like  you  to 

delete  all  the  steps  'below  that  lift-off  time, 
from  the  A/T-3  data  star  info  box  through  the 
VERB  32  after  the  last  -  after  for  the  remaining 
data  stars  and  after  last  star.     In  other  words, 
just  delete  all  between  the  box  and  up  to  circuit 
breaker  ACT  LAMP,  OPEH.     And,  of  course,  they'll 
be  no  P22  time,  over. 

CDR-LM  Okay.  Delete  all  the  data  star  information  be- 
tween the  start  of  that  box  and  after  last  star 
VERB  3h  ENTER,  00  ENTER. 

CC  That's  correct  and  then  turn  to  page  7-15.  We're 

changing  -  we  -  looking  here  a  little  closer  we 
find  that  radars  are  already  in  good  position,  so 
you  can  delete  all  procedures  on  page  7-15  j  ex- 
cept "Copy  Ascent  pads,  CSI  pad,  and  LM  DAP  weight." 

CDR-LM  Okay.  We  deleted  everything  but  the  last  three 
lines  on  that  page. 

CC  Okay.     On  page  7-12,  back  up  a  couple  pages.  In 

the  lower  right  corner  there ,  in  the  blajik  space , 
you  might  jot  down  l85:58,  VHF  check  with  command 
module.     And  that'll  be  according  to  the  proce- 
dures on  7-15  in  the  box.     You  might  just  pa- 
renthesis 7-15  to  remind  you  where  the  procedure 
is.     But  the  comm  check  will  come  during  that  time 
when  you're  preping  for  equipment  jettison,  or  right 
around  there. 


CDR-LM      Okay.     We  got  that. 

CC  Okay.     That's  all  we  got  for  you,  and  we  have  the 

E-MOD  dump  okay. 


CDR-LM  Okay. 


07  13  29  03     CDR-LM      Gordy,  we're  in  POO  and  data  and  we're  standing  by 

for  your  up-link,  and  how  long  does  that  AOT 
HEATER  breaker  have  to  be  open?     I  pushed  it  IN 
at  l8i+:08. 


Tape  121A/8 


CC 
CC 

CDR-LM 
07  13  31  10  CC 

CDR-LM 
07  13  3h  58  CC 

CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

07  13  37  h9  CC 
07  13  5h  35  CC 
07  13  5I+  39  CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 

07  13  55  ^7  CC 

07  13  59  58  LMP-LM 

CC 


Okay.     I'll  get  an  answer  for  that,  and  I  think 
we'll  he  coming  with  the  up-link  here  shortly. 

Gene,  no  time  constraint  on  that  AOT  breaker; 
except,  if  it's  foggy,  it  hasn't  been  in  long 
enough . 

(Laughter)     Thank  you,  Gordy. 
Challenger.     Here  comes  your  up-link. 
Okay . 

Challenger,  it's  -  your  computer.     You  have  a 
state  vector,  a  time  increment,  and  an  RLS. 

Thank  you,  Gordy. 

Yes,  it  likes  -  it  likes  the  command  module's 
orbit . 

That's  good. 
Okay,  we  see  that. 
Houston,  there's  a  NOUN  05 . 

Doesn't  look  like  the  Challenger  shifted  around 
much  in  the  last  3  days. 

Well,  at  least  it  always  settles  back  to  the  same 
spot . 

Okay.     You're  clear  to  torque  those. 

Say,  Gordy,  are  we  clear  to  jettison  the  buddy  SLSS 
bag ,  now? 

That's  affirmative.  Jack.     We've  determined  you 
won't  need  it  for  rock  stowage.     And  along  the 
same  line,  John  Young  suggested  that  you  ir.ight 
check  your  checklist  pockets  on  your  suits,  when 
you  get  to  that  point.     His  were  full  of  dirt. 
You  might  want  to  take  those  off  and  discard  them 
if  that's  the  case,  so  that  it  won't  fly  up  and  get 
you  at  Insertion. 


Tape  121A/9 


.  CDR-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-LM 
OT  Ih  00  59  CC 


Yes,  we  already  did  that,  Gordy.    They  were  a 
mess,  and  we  took  them  off.     They're  in  the 
jettison  bag  now. 

Okay. 

We're  going  to  take  time  out  for  about  15  or 
20  minutes  of  mandatory  housekeeping  here. 

Okay,  understand. 

That's  -  that's  prior  to  suit  donning. 
Roger. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  1213/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

07  Ih  12  33     CC  We're  going  to  leave  it  in  heater  straight  through 

until  ascent  "because  the  -  the  LM  got  up  late  and 
they  are  not  doing  their  P22  today. 

CMP  Oh,  okay,  okay.     Understand.     Okay;  the  old  DATA 

SYSTEM  is  going  OFF.     And  I  got  to  configure  the 
DSE  at  AOS,  it  looks  like. 

CC  And  we  have  configured  the  DSE  and  controlled,  Ron. 

You  can  scratch  that  line  of  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Okay.. 

CC  And  have  a  good  zodiacal  light. 

07  ll  13  2h    CMP  (Laughter)    Flip,  flip,  push-pull,  click-click, 

aroimd  the  comer,  3  seconds,  one-half,  one-fourth, 
skip  one,  skip  two,  skip  five.     Ought  to  be  fun. 

07        3h  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  50 

07  lit  59  10     Cr-IP  (Humming)  Thin  sponge,  hut  I  guess  it'll  work. 

(Humming)  Okay,  now  -  let's  see  what  we  need. 
Find  a  new  spot  that's  not  burned.     The  hair  is 
starting  to  grow  out  again.     Got  to  take  this 
sticky  stuff  off  before  it'll  stick.  (Humming) 
Take  them  along.     Okay,  where  did  the  other  little 
thing  go?     Okay;  20.  (Whistling) 

0-^  15  01  50     CC  MARK.     T-2  time. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Coming  up  -  i+2  -  No,  it's  ^^1:50,  I 

hope.     Because  I'm  not  there  yet. 

CC  T-2  is  at  i+2 : 50 ;  TCA  is  1+1|:30. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     It's  on  the  old  DAC  here.     Not  seeing 

much.     Maybe  -  7  degrees.     Okay,  she's  cor.in^-  down 
now  ...     Ah  ha!     I  see  it.     Yes,  and  it  is  pcinxing 
a  long  ways  I'rom  it.     It '  s  5  degrees  off.  Well, 
not  that  much ;  3  maybe . 


Tape  121B/2 


CC 


Do  you  have  the  DAC  on  now,  Ron? 


CMP  Yes,  DAC's  O.N.     Bring  her  down  and  -  Okay,  I  guess 

the  best  thing  to  do  is  take  the  center  of  that 
thing  -  about  right  there.     It's  supposed  to  be 
10  seconds  apart.     That  one  was  a  little  bit  off  - 
discount  that  one.     Beautiful.     Right  there. 
Switch  -  Ah  ha!     Both  in  zero  phase.     Got  it. 
About  to  lose  it.     Last  one  -  Okay,  the  last  one 
may  not  be  that  good.     Just  lost  it. 

07  15  05  22     CMP  Okay,  the  DAC  is  OFF.     Okay,  TCA  P20 ;  20  FNTFR 

Time,  VERB  25  NOUN  89  MTER.     Plus  20l6o.  (Huj^iming: 
I  have  time  to  load  F  Crater,  look  at  that  through 
the  sextant.     Right  time  to  do  that,     20  -  1  - 
Where  an  I?    15U05,  plus  15. 


CC 


Roger,  Ron.  We'd  like  to  make  sure  you  configure 
your  VHF  prior  to  this  landmark  lT-1  tracking. 


CMP  Okay.     ...     Plus  20l6  -  is  ^lus  '  5l;05  ENTER 

6  ENTER.  '  ' 

07  15  06  53    CMP  Okay,  configure  VHF  comm.     B  is  DUPLEX.  Okav; 

DUPLEX  Bravo.     MODE  to  VOX;  I'm  in.     VHF  AM  is  T/R; 
panel  9  -  Instead  of  RECEIVE,  okay?     Antenna  to 
right,  adjust  the  SQUELCH.     I  can  hear  myself 
cutting  in  and  out, 

CC  Okay,  you  sound  good  to  us.     Just  a  reminder  that 

RENDEZVOUS  TRANSPONDER  does  not  ^;o  to  POWER  there. 
We  Just  keep  it  in  HEATERS. 

CMP  Okay,  thank  you.     Okay.     Number  1,  that's  znake 

sure  we  be  sure  and  pick  it  up  right  -  transmitter 
9,  we're  DUPLEX.     Okay,  by  the  way,  the  old  zodia- 
cal light  went  like  a  charm.     Amazing.     They  cu- 
Gut  enough  of  those  things,  you  know,  so  that  it-'s 
reasonable  to  get  them  done. 

CC  Roger.     Good  show. 

Cyy  And  one  came  smacking  through  the  window  -  the  Sijin 

c&me  smacking  through  the  window  at  -  15:01,  some- 
thing like  that. 


Tape  121B/3 


CMP 


Okay,  Ron.     You've  got  to  load  your  UOUTJ  89s,  or 
maybe  I  missed  it  and  we  just  want  to  remind  you 
that  we'd  like  B/D  ROLL  configured  and  we  will  be 
using  B/D  ROLL  for  the  rest  of  the  mission. 

Oh,  okay.     You  want  to  change  the  old  DA?  here  - 
Did  I  miss  that  somewhere? 


CC  No,  sir.     That's  a  call  from  us. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Thank  you. 

CC  Wait  until  l86:ll  -  no  hurry  or  anything  like  that. 

Just  a  reminder. 

CMP  Okay,  let  me  wait  until  after  this  landmark  Track- 

ing here.     I'll  write  her  down  though.  (Hujiming) 
...  in  there.     5725  -  Okay,  give  me  a  call  shortly 
before  T~l  and  I  can  start  my  clock. 

CC  Roger,  Eon. 

CMP  And  in  the  meantime,  I  can  put  in  another  little  old 

sponge.     Got  to  keep  the  surgeons  happy.     Besides  - 
besides  it  feels  better  to  change  them  anyhow. 
There's  the  spot. 

O''  15  11  01    CI-IP  Okay,  you  ought  to  be  getting  good  data  now. 

CC  I'll  go  over  here  and  nudge  the  -  Roger.     He  says 

he  is  getting  good  data  now. 

CIvl?  Okay . 

CMP  1  wanted  to  be  all  clean  shaven  and  -  so  I  could  be 

all  nice  and  presentable  for  the  guys,  and  I  didn't 
have  time  to  shave  yet. 

CC  Roger.     You  still  itching? 

Ci^T  It's  not  too  bad,  really.     Right  now  it  is  kind  of  - 

^ust  to  a  point  right  underneath  the  chin,  you 
know,  where  -  your  coram  carrier  ties  on  with  that, 
little  pad  down  there. 

CC  Key,  Ron.     If  you  let  it  grow  a  little  bit,  you 

can  join  the  backup  crew. 


Tape  I2IB/I1 

07  15        19    CMP  Key,  that's  right.     Well,  there  goes  eld  Picard 

right  through  the  telescope.     At  this  kind  of  Sun 
angle,  he  still  has  the  dark  halo.     It  looks  like 
the^dark  halo  is  a  little  hit  smaller.     You  can't 
notice  the  distinction  quite  as  much.     It  only 
goes  out  to  ahout  half  a  crater  diameter  now.  You 
can  see  ahead  of  something  out  to  one  crater  diam- 
eter.    You  can  still  see  the  dark  material,  dark 
albedo-type  stuff  on  the  eastern  ;3ide  of  the  crater. 
And  the  demarcation  between  the  two  of  them.  It 
just  disappeared. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     You're  less  than  a  minute  to  T-1.  I'll 

give  you  a  call  at  30  seconds. 

CMP  Okay. 

07  15  16  5^     CC  Okay.     Okay,  Ron;  30  seconds  to  T-l. 

CMP  Okay.     Give  me  another  call  on  start. 

CC  And,  Ron,  you  might  be  getting  -  G^iey're  making  a 

VHP  check  right  while  you're  doing  the  landmark 
tracking. 

CMP  Okay. 

^'11  call  you  at  T-2,  if  you  want,  and  you  can  go 
ahead  and  call  -  make  your  voice  check. 


:mp 


cc 


ci^ 


CM 


Okay.     Man,  you  can't  find  anything  -  anything  with 
that  sextant.     Okay,  let's  see  -  T-l  was  -  went. 
25-1  minute.  Okay. 

Ron,  will  you  give  me  -  your  LM  guys  a  call  there, 
please.     They're  calling  you. 

Oh,  okay.     Hey,  Challenger.     This  is  Sea  Monster. 
How  do  you  read?    This  is  America,  really  (laughter] 


Hey,  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

07  15  19  Oh    CMP  Okay,  I'm  just  transmitting  D'CPLEX  Bravo. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  doing  great  now;  s-anding  by  for  you.  I 

am  going  to  take  a  -  do  a  little  landmark  tracking 
on  you  when  I  go  over, this  time. 


Tape  121B/5 


CMP  Negative  on  the  ranging. 


CMP 


CMP 


CIvIP 


CMP 


:mp 


Hey,  outstanding.     I'll  tell  you.     It's  a  "beauti- 
ful bird. 

Okay,  you're  kind  of  fading  out  a  little  "bit,  but  ~ 
Okay? 

Okay,  we'll  see  you  -  when  -  just  prior  to  lift-off 
then. 


CMP  I  guess  I  can  turn  my  VHF  off,  since  their 's  is 

off. 

CO  Yes ,  it  shows  going  off  at  the  end  of  your  landmark 

tracking. 

CMP  Okay.     And  fnere  comes  Maraldi. 

07  15  21  16    CC  Okay.     You're  coming  in  1  minute  to  T-2  time. 

CMP  Okay.     ...     ZERO's  OFF,  CMC  -   (Humming)  Okay, 

we're  passing  over  the  Scxilptured  Hills.  And 
coming  into  the  landing  site  now,     I  still  say  - 

I'll  start  the  old  DAC.     Oh,  boy,  that's  going  to 
be  bright. 

CO  Okay;  stand  by  for  a  mark  on  T-2. 

07  15  22  16     CC  MARK,  T-2. 


Long,  long  ways  off.     I  was  pointing  up  to  Family 
Mountain. 

Through  the  telescope,  anyhow,  the  whole  area  down 
there's  a  lot  lighter  than  it  used  to  be,  and  I 
am  sure  this  is  due  to  the  increase  of  the  Sun 
angle.     However,  the  landing  site  itself  and  the 
whole  valley  extending  on  out  to  the  Serenitatis 
annulus  is  still  darker  -  darker  than  xhe  surround- 
ing territory-,  but  it  -  the  higher  Sun  now,  it's 
a  lighter  tan  than  it  used  to  be.     Come  on,  catch 
up  wi-ch  us  there.     Okay,  I  got  three  good  narks 
right  in  a  row  there.     Just  because  I  missed  the 
TCA,  couldn't  catch  up  with  i-.  Las1 
gone.     Okay,  in  this  sunlig'nt ,  Family  Moi 
looks  like  iz  is  black  on  the  top.     aoz  black,  but 
real  dark  -  real  dark  gray  on  top  of  it. 


'.tair 


Tape  121B/6 


CC  We'd  like  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

07  15  25  OK     CMP  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

CC  Please. 

CMP  Back  to  POO  here,  huh? 


Chip 

CC 

CI^P 


c^^p 


Okay,  VERB  28  ENTER.     VEEB  2k  EUTKR,     1112  e:?TZ? 
0111  -  That  looks  good.     PROCEED,  PROCEED  Oka"' 
we  will  VERB  49  it. 

Ron,  you  will  need  to  select  your  jets  for  B/D 
ROLL. 

Thiajik  you.     Good  point.     I  was  diddling  around, 
looking  through  the  telescope,  going  across  Seren- 
itatis  there.     Let's  see  -  where  were  we?     l80  2hh 
and  12  -  Ko,  that's  not  the  ...     Ckay.     ...     Look  ' 
in  there. 

Ron,  just  some  information  for  you  while  you  ar(- 
working  here.    The  consumable  status,  you're  abcve 
the  line  on  everything  and,  in  particularly,  you 
might  he  concerned  about  SM  RCS  here.  You'-e 
1  percent  above  the  Flight  Plan  plan  at  this  tire 
even  after  that  burn.  ' 

Even  after  the  burn,    still  1  percent,  huh? 
CC  That's  affirmative. 

CT-'?  That's  good,  because  I  had  a  little  ACCEL  CCiMMAiVD 

in  there,  too.     Yes,  1  found  my  bright  mo-ond  crater. 
I  wish  I  could  do  P21+.     I  could  just  take  a  ke-k, 
somewhere  west.     I  could  -  I  can  do  that,  can'^ 
Let's  see  -  MTER,  3^  EI^TER;  orobably  get  a  409  or 
something.     Okay,  I'll  take  a  couple  cf  r.arks  or  it. 
Yes.     X  was  afraid  of  that.     This  :.s   fair  enouf^-.. 
Still  has  the  brown  -  the  tannish  ejecta  off  of  it, 
and  it's  hit  over  in  the  -  in  that  volcanic  rille 
area,     I  got  some  Beq.uence  camera  pictures  of  ii  , 
but  I  don't  know  how  good  that'll  he.  ' 

y°'^  set  your  mark  on  the  c:rater  you  wa:-_t? 


Tape  121B/7 


37  15  30  56     CMP  Yes,  I  think  I  got  a  -  yes,     I  got  a  kO'^  alarm  and 

I  don't  think  it  will  take  a  mark.  When  you  have 
that  U05  alarm.  But,  anyhow,  I  took  two  narks  on 
it. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Might  he  in  the  data  there;  I  don't  know. 


CC 


CMP 


Ron,  I've  got  that  P27  update  pad,  which  is  on  page 
3-277  of  the  Flight  Plan  at  ahout  I86  hours.  It 
is  a  long  one,  so  any  time  you  want  to  copy  it. 

Okay,  I  guess  I  had  better  get  going  on  that.  Let's 
see,  let's  -  Okay,  the  magazine  Bravo  Bravo  is 
down  to  -  50  percent . 


CC  Roger, 

CI'^P  I  lost  my  pen  somewhere.  Pencil. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     Now  that  you  are  in  POO,  we'd  like 

ACCEPT.     We  got  a  state  vector. 

07  15  32  Ih    CMP  Okay.     And  I  am  ready  to  start  copying. 

CC  Okay,  it's  a  long  one.     The  first  one  is  the  CSM 

state  vector.  71;  GET  is  l88:01:i+2.     Index  is  21. 
The  following  line  is  all  data.     I'll  break  about 
every  five,  if  you  want  to  stop  me.     Opposite  02  we 
go  -  data  as  follows:     OI5OI,  00002,  7'^563,  7?i+31, 
77517,  i+5633,  00013,  11736,  65021,  ii3762,  11131, 
312^U,  O762I4,  10720,  100^3,  17330,  end  of  the  CSM 
state  vector.     Read  back. 

CMP  Okay,     VERB  71:     l88:01:U2;  21;  OI5OI,  00002, 

77563,  77U31,  7751^%  I45633,  00013,  11736,  65021, 
i+3762,  11131,  31241^,  0762i+,  10720,  10043,  17330. 

OC  Good  show,  Ron.     Ar:d  you  want  to  breaiv  here  or  c-o 

you  want  to  -cake  the  LM  state  vector  VERB  71? 

C-'^P  If  you  are  through  with  the  conputer,  I  might,  start, 

the  maneuver  to  attitude  here. 

CC  Ifega-civs.     We  still  need  the  computer,  Ron. 


Tape  121B/8 


CMP 


Okay.     Let's  go  on  with  the  LM  then. 


CC  Okay.     I'll  give  you  the  same  thiag.     Just  inter- 

rupt me  about  every  five.     LM  state  vector    VERB  71- 
GET  188:19:00.     Index  21  data  follows:  01501 
77775,  77^72,  77201,  777*^1,  70l63,  00121,  1622-^ 
77273,  U1206,  17767,  36kOO ,  O5052,  15^+05,  10051, 
32120.     that's  it.     You  can  read  back,     l^e  computer 
is  yours. 

07  15  37  32     CMP  Okay,  I'll  go  to  BLOCK.     VERB  71 ;  188-19 -GO-  21- 

01501,  77775,  77it72,  77201,  777^^1,  70163,  00121,' 
1D227,  77273,  U1206,  17767,  36^00,  05052,  15i+05 
10051,  32120.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Good  readhack.     I've  got  a  DAP  weight 

for  one  man  for  the  CSM,  if  you  want  to  copy  it 
somewhere.     FAO  would  like  to  get  the  maneuver 
started,  Ron.     Go  ahead,  and  I'll  give  it  -  - 

CMP  Okay.     Okay.     All  righty;  2kh  and  3^+1  PROCEED; 

50  18;  CMC;  caged;  PROCEED.     Okay,   CSM  weight! 

CC  Okay,  CSM  DAP  weight  for  one  man:     36032.     Note  2: 

engine  trim  good  as  is.     And  a  note  from  FAO:  if 
mag  Bravo  Bravo  has  50  percent,  no  need  to  change; 
good  for  docking  with  50  percent.  Readback. 

CMP  0k<iy,  CSM  weight  is  36032.     And  that's  for  me  alone, 

I  guess.     Packed  [?]  off  and  yacked  [?]  off  are 
good  as  is.     And  there's  50  percent  on  mag  Bravo 
Bravo,  so  we  might  as  well  use  it,  huh? 


CMP 


CC 


That's  affirm. 

Don't  want  to  run  out.  Okay. 


07  15  in  h9     CMP  Houston,  America.     Did  you  all  reset  tre  surface 

flag? 


ITiat's  affirmative.  That's  affirmaxive.  We  re;^.et 
it. 


:MP  Okey. 


Tape  121B/9 


CC  The  only  thing  we  got  open  right  now^  Ron,  is  the 

OU  and  ascent  pad  or  pads. 

CIvIP  Okay.     If  you  have  them,  I  could  go  ahead  and  copy 

them.     If  you  don't  have  them  yet,  it's  all  right. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     I've  got  the  direct  ascent  and  the 

coelliptic  rendezvous  T.  times  of  page  18?  -  yes, 
that's  on  time  I87. 

CMP  Okay,  just  a  second  there.  Bob. 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  ready  to  copy  the  old  direct  ascent  pads, 
I  guess . 

Okay,  Ron,  the  direct  ascent,  GET  lift-off: 
188:01:35.93-,  GET  TPI:     188:55:57.00.  Over. 


07  15  hi  08    CMP  Okay,  lift-off  -  - 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIOK 

07  ih  18  18    LMP-LM      Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     I  just  went  off  biomed 

briefly. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

LMP-LM  And  Gene  will  be  on  biomed  shortly. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP-n^  Gordy,  I'm  back  up. 

CC  Okay. 

07  1^  37  16    LMP-LM  Okay,  Houston.     This  is  the  LMP  suited.     How  do 

you  read  biomed  and  voice? 

CC  Oh,  we're  copying  your  ticker  loud  and  clear. 

Also  your  voice. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Gordy,  Gene.     I'm  going  off  the  air. 

CC  Okay,  Geno. 

07  1^  51  33    CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo.     This  is  CDR.     You  ought  to  have  me 

all  backup  on  the  comm  and  biomed  now. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     Looking  good. 

CDR-LM  CDR's  PRD  is  170^^5. 

CC  Okay;  got  that. 

LMP-LM  LMP  is  2^+150. 

CC  Okay. 

07  15  02  16    CDR-LM  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  ready  to  don  the  helmets  and 

gloves . 

CC  Okay. 


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CDR-LM 
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CDR-LM 
07  15  06  02  CC 


CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
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CC 

LMP-LM 
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CDR-LM 

07  15  09  22  CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 
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07  15  10  10  CDR-LM 


Okay,  Gordo.     We're  going  to  press  on,  but  don't 
let  us  miss  l85:58  for  the  VHF  check,  will  you? 

Sure  won't.     We're  vatching  them. 

Okay. 

Challenger,  Houston,     We're  gettir.g  close  to  the 
bottom  on  descent  water.    We're  expecting  to  have 
to  switch  to  ascent  water  sometime-  in  the  next 
hour.    We'll  give  you  a  call. 

Okay ,  Gordy . 

Okay. 

I  cleaned  them  up  for  you.     What  n.ore  could  you  ask? 
Yes.     Hey,  Houston.     We're  VOX  noT* . 
Okay;  and  loud  and  clear  on  VOX. 
Is  the  recorder  on  yet? 

Yes.     The  recorder's  on,  but  I  dor. 't  think  it's 
going  to  work.     (Laughter)     See  if  I've  got  anymore 
juice  in  here.     I  owe  Don  Arabian  something. 

Wristlet  covers.    Don  wristlet  coii'ers. 

Okay;        right  -  right  glove  is  01.  and  locked. 
Verified. 

Oh,  I  just  came  to  the  end  of  my  grease.  Probably 
a  good  time,  because  if  everything,  goes  the  way 
it's  supposed  to,  I  shouldn't  put  on  these  ZV 
clothes  anymore. 

Don't  you  use  that  in  your  IV? 

No,  I  don't  need  it  with  my  IV. 

Mine  are  all  on  and  verified.     Locked.     Back  in 
SUIT  FLOW. 


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CDR-LM      Hey,  we  got  8  minutes  to  the  comm  check,  so  let's 
press  on.     Hate  to  get  in  the  middle  of  the  integ- 
rity check  -  Oh,  we  can  do  it.     This  won't  take 
long.     Need  any  help  with  your  glove? 

LMP-LM      I  will. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Let  me.     Buggish  today.     Turn  that  off. 

LMP-LM      Well,  I  did  once.  Gene,  and  I  -  didn't  help,  and 
I  started  to  run  out  of  air.  There. 

CDR-LM  Doublecheck.     You  sure  they're  locked? 

LMP-LM  Yes,  they're  locked. 

CDR-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Gloves  are  GO. 

07  15  11  28    CDR-LM      Okay;  stay  facing  that  way.     Pressure  integrity 

check.  Suit  shall  not  "be  maintained  at  elevated 
pressure  greater  than  5  minutes.  Okay;  SUIT  GAS 
DIVERTER,  PULL  to  EGRESS.  Verify. 

LMP-LM  Okay;  that's  verified. 

CDR-LM  CABIN  GAS  RETURN,  EGRESS.  Verify. 

LMP-LM  EGRESS  verified. 

CDR-LM  SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF,  CLOSE. 

LMP-LM  I'm  CLOSE. 

CDR-LM  Okay;  we  will  leave  PRESSURE  REG  A,  CLOSE. 

LMP-LM  Yes,  sir. 

CDR-LM  PRESSURE  REG  B,  DIRECT  0^ ,  and  we'll  go  up  to  3.7 

or  h.O  on  the  cuff  gauge,  and  then  you  want  to  go 
to  EGRESS  on  it. 

LIvIP-LM      Okay . 


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CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

07  15  13  09  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

07  15  Ih  2k  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Okay;  you  can  go  on  up.     I'm  in  DIl^ECT  O^. 

Okay;  suit  circuit's  coming  up. 

Okay;  suit  circuit's  about  7.2  now.     Should  be 
coming  off  the  peg  shortly.     I'm  o:rf  the  peg. 

And  I'm  off  the  peg. 

You  can  stop  it  on  yoixr  cuff  gage  -  - 

Yes,  I  will. 

-  -  at  3.7. 

That's  3.0,  3.5,  3.7- 

Okay;  go  to  EGRESS. 

I'm  in  EGRESS. 

Okay. 

MARK  it. 

Okay.     3.75  and  CDR  was  3.75- 

Got  about  k  minutes  for  VHF. 

Our  suits  are  going  to  be  good. 

That's  the  whole  circuit. 

Yes,  I  know. 

It's  about  the  same. 

Got  about  10  seconds  to  go. 

Okay . 

^^AR:•<:  it.     CDR  dropped  from  3.75  to  3.dO. 
Okay. 

Okay;  SUIT  CIRCUIT  RELIEF,  AUTO.     Hold  your  ears 


Tape  112A/5 


LMP-LM      AUTO . 

CDR-LIyl      Suit  circuit  pressure  decays  to  h.8.     Coming  down. 

CDR-LM  Okay.  Jack.  The  next  thing  is  depress,  but  be- 
fore we  do  that,  I  think  we  ought  to  get  the  VHF 
check.     It's  only  about  3  minutes  away. 


LMP-LM      Do  it.     I  got  a  scratch  on  my  helmet. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordo.     We're  going  to  configure  for  the 
VHF  here.     Standing  by  for  a  call  from  the  CMP. 

CO  Okay;  sounds  like  a  good  idea. 

CDR-LM      And  we'll  press  on  after  that.     Jack,  you  better 
make  sure  your  volume ' s  up . 

LMP-LM      You're  RECEIVE  B,  huh? 

CDR-LM      I'm  A,  OFF  -  we're  A,  OFF  and  RECEIVE,  B  on  the 
AUDIO. 

LMP-LM      Hey,  what  do  we  do  once  we  hear  him? 

CDR-LM      Okay;  when  you  hear  him,  probably  answer  him  is 
the  first  thing.    And  then  -  and  then  VHF.  No. 
They  need  -  You  want  A  TRANSMITTER,  VOICE/RAUGE, 
then  A  to  T/R,  and  A  TRANSMITTER,  OFF  after  con- 
versation. 


LMP-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM      As  soon  as  you  hear  him,  you  want  the  VHF  A  TRANS- 
MITTER to  VOICE/RANGE. 

LMP-LM      Yes,  I'll  do  it.     Is  he  going  -  He's  going  to  try 
to  lock  up  on  us  I  guess,  huh? 

CDR-LM      They've  got  us  VEF  RANGING,  so  we'll  have  to  be 
quiet  once  we  get  established. 

CDR-LM      ***  like  home  in  these  suits. 

LMP-LM      Yes . 


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CC  Challenger,  about  30  seconds  to  the  coimn  check. 

CDR-M  Okay.     Thank  you,  Houston. 

LMP-LM  There  he  is. 

CDR-LM  Yes.     Talking  in  VOX. 

LMP-LM  Okay;  I'm  going  to  go  VOICE/RAJTGIMG,  I  guess. 

CDR-LM  Wait  -  No,  wait  until  he  gives  us  the  call. 

LMP-LM  Hey,  Houston;  we're  reading  CMP  on  VOX. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM  Hey,  Captain  America,  this  is  Challenger.  You're 
loud  and  clear.     Go  to  T/R. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Ron.     You're  loud  and  clear.     How  do  you 

read  us?    Okay;  you  were  very  good  on  B.     On  T/R, 
you're  in  the  mud  a  little  bit.     On  the  A.  Oh, 
okay.     That's  better.     You  must  have  turned  away 
from  your  mike.     How  are  you  doing? 


CDR-LM      Okey.     Okay.     Are  you  in  VOICE/RANGE,  Jack? 
LMP-LM      Yes ,  I  am. 

CDR-LM      Ron,  are  you  going  to  do  any  ranging  at  all? 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Gee,  you're  loud  and  clear.     How's  -  how's 
America  looking  to  you?    Yes ,  we  got  a  beautiful 
bird  down  here.     We'll  -  we'll  see  you  up  there 
shortly. 

07  15  19  ^8    LMP-LM      Hang  in  there  and  keep  your  probe  extended.  Okay; 

we're  going  to  go  VH?,  OFF. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     Jack,  you  need  your  A  TRANSMITTER,  OrF. 

LMP-LM  A  is  OFF. 

CDR-LM  That's  all  you  need  to  do. 

LMP-LM  Outstanding. 


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CC  Okay,  Challenger.    You  have  a  GO  from  us  for 

depress . 

CDR-LM      Okay;  stand  by  1. 

LMP-LM      I  doubt  it. 

CDR-LM     You  might  "be  able  to.     It's  awful  glary  though. 
He'll  be  well  sunlit  up  there. 

LMP-LM      I  doubt  it. 

CDR-LM  Okay;  we  have  a  GO  for  depress.  Jack.  On  l6  ECS, 
CABIN  REPRESS,  OPEN. 

LMP-LM      CABIN  REPRESS  coming  OPEN.  OPEN. 

CDR-LM  Why  don't  you  watch  your  gage,  and  I'm  going  to  - 
Okay.  I'm  going  to  open  the  forward  dump  to  AUTO 
to  3.5. 

LMP-LM      Okay;  I'll  watch.     You  call. 

CDR-LM      Hey,  coming  down? 

LMP-LM      Okay;  it's  5»  ^+.5,  ^.     Stand  by. 

07  15  21  21    LMP-LM      MARK.  3-5. 

CDR-LM      Okay.    Verify  -  suit  circuit  lockup  at  U.3  and 
decaying.     Okay;  it's  i+.5.     Stand  by  for  the 
decay.     Oh,  man,  I  got  to  go  get  that  WATER  SEP 
SELECT. 

LMP-LM  Pull  the  2,  huh? 

CDR-LM  Oh,  boy. 

LMP-LM  Want  me  to  get  it? 

CDR-LM  No.     I  got  longer  arms,  I  guess. 

LMP-LM  I  can  reach  back  in  there. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     If  you  can  get  back  there. 


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IMP-ffl      I  think.     Now,  they  want  it? 
CDR-LM      Yes,  now.     Pull  the  2. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     Pull  the  2.     Okay.     Happy  with  the  suit 

circuit.     And  yes,  we  got  a  deca;{  in  the  suit  loop. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Okay;  verify  suit  circuit  lock's  up.  I'm 
dumping  all  the  way. 

LMP-LK  Ckay . 

LMP-LM  Circuit  is  h.2. 

LMP-LM  We're  at  0.7  in  the  cat in  and  U.I  in  the  suit. 

LMP-LM  At out  U.O,  and  the  cabin  is  0.3. 

CDR-LM  Okay;  let  me  see  if  I  can  jar  it. 

LMP-LM  Okay;  I  guess  we're  GO  for  EVA-h. 

CDR-LM      Five,  isn't  it?    Five  this  time?     Oh,  man,  I  got 
it  open.     If  I  could  bleed  that  pressure.  Oh, 
boy.     Hey,  hold  it  here  for  a  minute.     There's  a 
lot  of  psi  on  that  hatch. 

LMP-LM      Ckay;  that'll  hack  it.     Let  me  go  to  AUTO  here. 

K'eed  my  checklist.  Make  it  -  Oops,  that's  closed. 
That's  AUTO,  and  the  lock  ...  is  on?  Okay?  Hatch 
is  open  all  the  way.     Where  are  we? 

LMP-LM      Vi'hy  is  that  still  waving  in  the  breeze? 

CDR-LM      Man,  there's  a  solar  wind  in  here. 

LMP-LM      We're  on  7-  something  here.     Still  vending,  are  we? 

Eoiiston,  how's  our  cabin  configuration?  Mean  there's 
still  the  -  had  a  little  breeze  going  out  the  ha^ch. 

CC  All  the  numbers  look  good  here,  Jack. 

CDR-LM  Hey,  hold  that.  Jack. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Okay.  Ready? 

CDR-LM  Okay . 


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07  15  25  ho  LMP-Lf'I 

07  15  25  CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

IMP-m 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

07  15  26  55  CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


Partially  open;  that's  good.     ...    Jettison  the 
Jett  bag.     Here  goes  Santa  Claus  -  - 

Here  you  go,  Santa  Claus.  -  -  Santa  Claus'  bag. 
Another  bag  of  goodies. 

Give  it  the  old  -  - 

There  you  go. 

-  -  3-point  kick. 

Right.     Beautifully  done.     Just  where  we  wanted 
it.     All  clear  the  ascent  stage. 

Need  the  -  Okay;  clear.     Good  boy.     Now,  for  your 
next  act . 

No.     Don't  -  don't  even  think  about  it. 
Okay .     ( Laiaghter ) 
Okay?  (Laughter) 

Jettison  bag.     All  items  are  clear  of  ascent  stage. 
Ready  to  close  hatch? 

Looks  like  it. 

Short  EVA-5.     Are  we  STAY/NO  STAY  for  hatch  closure? 

You  have  a  GO  for  closing  the  hatch. 

Okay. 

Okay.     The  hatch  is  closed. 

Boy,  is  it  easy  to  get  around  in  here  without  a 
PLSS  on.     Okay;  your  DUMP  VALVE  verified  in  AUTO? 

Yes  5  sir,  and  locked. 

Okay. 

CABIN  REPRESS.  Okay. 


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LMP-KM  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Verify  it's  AUTO? 

LMP-LM  It's  AUTO, 

CDR-M  Okay;  on  l6,  CABIN  REPRESS,  CLOSED? 

LMP-M  Okay;  CABIN  REPRESS  going  CLOSED. 

CDR-LM      And  the  hatch  looked  clear  when  I  -  sealed  it. 
Clear  when  I  closed  the  hatch. 

LMP-LM      Okay.  Closed. 

CDR-LM      There's  the  MASTER  ALARM.     And  the  cabin  is  coming 
up.     AUX  0^. 

CDR-LM      Okay;   cahin  is  increasing,  and  you  can  go  to  CABIN 
on  PRESSURE  REG  B 

LMP-LM      It's  in  CABIN. 

CDR-LM      Every  warning  light  will  go  off  here  shortly.  And 
my  suit ' s  coming  down . 

LMP-LM      Mine,  also. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     We're  just  ahout  to  go  to  50  percent, 
DESCENT  Og.     We're  there. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Cabin's  almost  at  regulating  pressure, 

and  cabin  lights  are  still  on.     Next  thing  we'll 
do  when  it  stabilizes,  we'll  doff  our  gloves,  doff 
our  helmets;  locked  up. 

LMP-LM      Okay;  5-0. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     You  can  doff  your  gloves. 

LMP-LM      Let  me  watch  that  pressure  a  minute.     Well,  it 
looks  like  it's  stable  at  five.  Okay. 

CDR-LM      How's  the  cabin  look,  Houston?     Looks  good  here. 

CC  Okay;  it  looks  good  here. 


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CDR-LM      Okay.  ... 

LMP-LI>I      I  hope  so.     Physics  says  it  should  have  "been. 
CDR-U'I      There's  an  experiment. 

LMP-LM      Not  really,  since  we  do  that  with  our  PLSS  and 
everything  else. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     Take  your  helmet  off. 

LMP-LM  That  was  painless  enough. 

CDR-LM  Jack,  I'd  wrap  that  thing  around  it  like  that. 

LMP-LM  Say,  man,  don't  we  take  our  helmets? 

07  15  30  10    CDR-LM      Not  yet.     We  -  No,  obviously .     Go  behind  the 

engine  cover. 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

07  15  33  ^0    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     Just  a  reminder.     Before  you 

stow  the  right-hand  OPS  on  the  floor ,  you  need  to 
attach  the  floor  hole  cover. 

CDR-LM      Okay;  we're  -  Jack's  down  there  cleaning  up  the 
floor  now,  and  I'm  working  on  the  visors. 

CC  Okay. 

07  15  38  53    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We  have  a  copy  of  a  -  an 

update  on  the  rock  stowage  that  was  given  to  you 
last  night.     We're  not  sure  if  they  read  one  part 
of  it  to  you,  and  that  was  concerning  using  some 
contingency  webbing  to  reinforce  the  tiedown  of 
the  bag  that  goes  on  the  Z-27  bulkhead.     If  you 
did  get  that  update,  forget  it.     We  do  not  need 
any  extra  tiedown  other  than  the  normal  tiedown. 
Over. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     That's  for  the  buddy  PLSS  bag,  I 

guess,  and  we  did  not  get  it.  But  we  haven't  quite 
stowed  that  yet  anyway,  so  we  will  forget  it. 

CC  Okay. 


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CDR-LM      Are  the  Rover  batteries  still  ali\-e? 
07  15  39         CC  I'll  check  vith  the  ...     Stand  by. 

END  OF  TAPE 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-C-ROUKD  VOICE  TBANSCRIPTIOK 

07  15  47  01    CC  ...  Over. 

ClvT  Okay,  lift-off,  188:01:35.93;  TPI ,  188:55:57.00. 

CC              Okay,  Ron.     And  the  coelliptic  rendezvous  pad  belov 
that.     GET  lift-off   

CMP  Okay . 

CC  -  -  l88:01;lli,00;  mm  11,  CSI  time,  l39 :  01 :  53  .  6l ; 

NOUN  37,  TPI  tine,  190:55:00.00.  Over. 

CMP  Okay,  lift-off  is  l88 :  01 :  ill .  00 ;  CSI's  l39 :  01 :  53  .  8l ; 

TPI,  190:55:00.00. 

CC  One  thing's  wrong  in  there,  Ron.     The  GE  time  - 

the  lift-off  is  l88:0l+  on  the  coelliptic  rendezvous 
pad  -  l88:0J4:li|. 

CM?  Yes,  that  does  sound  a  little  better. 

CC  Did  you  get  that,  Ron?     l88 : OU : lU . 00  . 


CMP  Okay,  for  the  coelliptic,  lift-off  is  la^er  zh 

ascent,  so  it  is  l88 : OU : lU . 00 . 

CC  Roger.     Good  readback  and  up  in  that  block  if  you 

didn't  copy  it  there,  that  CSM  weight  uhat  I  gave 
you  before  is  36032. 

CMP  Yes,  36032.     That's  right, 

07  15  19  13    CMP  Okay,  I  guess  you  need  a  P52 . 

CMP  (Singing)    . . . 

07  15  52  36     CMP  Regulus    . . . 

CC  Cave  you  an  easy  one,  didn'i:  we? 


Yes .     JUt  -  wi^^.  the  Ear  ^h  :^n 


j' ou  c>=.r_  ~gj —  you  —  i^nere's  a  s  i^ar 
can'"  recognize  uhe  'oazzevri. 


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CC  Well,  we'll  know  when  we  look  at  t}-.e  star-an^^-le 

difference. 

CMP  (Laughter)    That's  right. 

CiMP  2h  is  Gienah.     Okay,  take  me  to  Gie^nah. 

07  15  5^  03     CMP  Has  to  be  Gienah,  I  hope.     Oh,  that's  r.ot  so  baa. 

CC  Yes     we  '  11  huy  that , 

CMP  Okay.     Plus  102,  plus  030,  and  a  minus  06.  A* 

186,  zap  out  35,  huh? 

CC  You  can  torque  them. 

CMP  Okay . 

OT  15  55  03    CMP  I  torque . 

07  15  56  Oh     CMP  Ah  ha!     I  tested  the  theory.     The  field  of  view  is 

1.8  degrees  precisely,  isn't  it?    And  the  Earth  -  - 

CO  Affirmative. 

C^^P   is  Just  a  little  bit  inside  of  it. 

CC  Affirmative. 

CMP  So,  this  is  indeed  2  degrees  in  diameter, 

CMP  ...  doing  here  now.     Calibration,  okay? 

CMP  (Humming)     And  it's  pretty  good  fishing.  Tha-'s 

what  they  had  in  the  dead  band. 

Cl^  Down  this  time  - 

CMP  That's  it  right  there. 

:j  (        00  49    CC  Okay,  I  copy  these  numbers  in  your  I)S?:Y  . 

CM?  CKay . 


^ape  1223/3 


OT  16  03  hi 
07  16  32  XX 


CC  Ron,  we're  12  minutes  from  -  from  LOS  here  and. 

you're  looking  good.     You  want  to  be  donning  your 
PGA  so  that  you're  not  -  you're  not  on  loop  at  LOS  - 
we  just  -  you're  looking  good  and  Just  be  advised 
that'  we'll  be  -  have  the  S-band  relay  from  the  LM 
to  you  -  will  be  active  when  you  come  around  and 
it'll  "be  a  single  CAPCOM  loop  setup  for  this  next 
rev. 


CMP  Okay,  I'll  go  to  PTT  then  for  that  type  of  operation. 

CC  Roger.    Real  good.     You  will  not  be  relaying  to 

the  LM;  the  JM  will  be  relaying  to  you,  but  it 
won't  go  the  other  way,  Ron.    Unless  we  need  it 
to  set  up  the  -  - 

CMP  Oh,  it  won't?     Oh,  okay;  I  see. 

CC  And  also  we  do  have  the  dual  -  - 

CMP  That's  a  good  deal. 

CC  -  -  desk  set  up  here  at  CAPCOM,  so  if  at  any  time 


we  want  to  break  down  any  relay  at  all  and  go  back 
to  split  loop,  we  can  do  it,  no  problem. 


CMP  Okay . 

CC  Ron,  Just  a  reminder.     Zero  the  optics  when  you  can, 

please . 

CMP  Okay,  thank  you. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TPAIJSCRIPTION 

07  16  00  58     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     I'm  standing  liy  with  a  pad 

any  time  you're  ready. 

LliP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     I'll  "be  ready  in  just  a  minute. 

07  16  05  03    LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  go  with  the  ascent  pad. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     This  is  the  direct  ascent  pad.  T. 

IS 

is  188:01:35-93;  NOUN  76  is  55^+0.8,  0032.0  minus 

000.5;  DEDA  0I+7  is  plus  37^+30;  minus  72507; 

plus  58669;  plus  56907;  plus  0032. Oj  plus  0535.9; 

and  TPI  time  is  188:55:57.00.     LM  weight  IO9OO ; 

and  H.  is  62.9;  H  >  62.2.     One  remark;  your  T. 

A  r  Ig 

for  one  rev  late  is  190:00:18.     Go  ahead. 

07  16  07  00    n-lP-LM      Okay,  Gordy,  here  is  your  readhack.     Direct  ren- 
dezvous -  direct  rendezvous  is  I88 : 01 : 35 .93 ;  55^0.8, 
0032.0,  minus  000.5,  plus  37^+30,  minus  72507, 
58669,  56907,  0032.0,  0535.9;  188:55:57.00;  IO90O, 
629,  622.     Remark:     one  rev  late  T.     is  190:00:18. 
Over . 

CC  Okay  5  that  was  a  good  readback.     Now  I  have  a  co- 

elliptic  ascent  pad.     T.     is  188: OU: lU.OO ;  5539-0, 

ig 

0038.0,  minus  000.5;  plus  37^30;  minus  72507;  58630; 
56907;  0038.0.     Rest  of  the  pad  down  to  LM  weight 
is  HA.     Your  LM  weight  is  IO9OO ,  and  the  and 
Hp  are  NA.  Over. 

Ll^p-LK      Okay,  coelliptic  readback:     188  :  OU  :  1h  .  00  ;   5'"  39.0, 
0038.0,  minus  000.5;  plus  37^30;  minus  72507; 
58630 ;  56907;  0038.0 ;  rest  of  pad  is  NA  except 
for  LM  weight,  IO9OO.  Over. 

CC  Okay,  that's  a  good  readback.     Turn  to  page  10; 

I  have  the  CSI  pad  coelliptic. 

CDR-LI^      And,  Gordy,  I'm  starting  to  pick  up  -che  breakers 
on  panel  11 . 

CC  Okay,  Geno . 


L>T-LI^ 


Okay,  Gordy,  CSI  on  page  10. 


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CC 


LMP-m 

CC 

LMP-LM 

07  16  Ik  36  CDR-LM 
CC 

07  16  15  55  LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 
CC 

07  16  18  32  CDR-M 
CC 

07  16  19  26  CDR-LM 


CDR-LM 

07  16  2h  12  CC 

07  16  2i+  20  CDR-LM 


Okay.     T      is  189 : 01 : 53 . 8I .     T.     at  TPI  is 

190:55:00.00.     NOOT  81  is  053-9;  and  DELTA-V^ 

is  a  plus  all  balls.     373,  05i+1.9,  0655.O;  plus 
053.9,  plus  all  balls,  and  plus  001.2. 

Oksiy.     CSI  pad:     I89 :  01 :  53  . 81 ,  190:55:  all  zeros; 
plus  053.9,  plus  all  zeros;  05^1.9,  O655.O; 
plus  053.9,  plus  all  zeros;  plus  0D1.2.  Over. 

Okay.     That's  a  good  readback.     That's  all  I  have 
for  you. 

Okay. 

Okciy,  Gordo,  we're  on  the  top  of  Q~h . 
Roger,  Geno. 

Okay,  Gordo.     The  rendezvous  radar  looks  a  little 
warm,  it  -  I'm  reading  about  90  deijrees . 

Okay  90. 

Okay,  Gordy,  are  you  ready  for  AGS  STATUS  tc 
OPERATE? 

Let  me  check.     We're  ready,  Jack;  go  ahead. 

Okay,  Gordo.     NOUN  72,  R2  is  not  var;/ing.  I've 
got.  both  shaft  and  trunnion,  and  crcsspointers 
varying. 

Okay,  Geno.     We  copy  that. 

Okay,  Gordy.     On  the  radar  test,  e\-erything  is 
GO.     Everything  is  within  limits.     The  only 
anomaly  is  the  one  I  just  reported. 

Okay,  Geno.  And  20  seconds  here  on  the  ho-ar  even, 
we'Jul  have  a  site  handover  to  Goldstone. 

Okay . 

Geno,  Houston.  You  can  go  ahead  ana  park  thi?  raaa; 
at  0  and  30 . 

Yes.     It's  going  there  rignt  now,  as  a  :r.a-.ter  of 
fact . 


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CC 


07  16  26  ih  LMP-LM 


CC 
CC 


CDR-m 

07  16  28  Oh  CDR-LM 
CC 

07  16  29  28  LMP-LM 
CC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

07  16  30  25  CDR-LM 
07  16  31  39  CDR-LM 

CC 

07  16  31  57  LMP-LM 
CC 

07  i6  33  05  CDR-LM 
CC 

07  16  33  i+7  CDR-LM 


Okay . 

Okay,  Houston.     The  AGS  gyro  calibration  is  com- 
plete and  looks  pretty  good.     I  guess  Z's  a  little 
little  -  No,  that  -  Yes,  Z's  a  little  more  than 
you'd  expect,  I  guess. 

Okay,  Jack. 

Challenger,  Houston.     Words  on  the  radar.  Vjlien 
you  parked  it  there,  we  saw  it  go  to  the  proper 
places.     From  all  our  indications,  the  interface 
"between  the  radar  and  the  PGNS  is  okay.     And  our 
best  guess  is  some  kind  of  self-test  problem. 

Okay,  Gordy.     Thank  you. 

Rate  gyros  are  good. 

Roger . 

Okay,  Gordy.     I'm  going  to  go  to  AUTO  on  the 
S-BAND,  if  you  want  it. 

Okay.     We're  GO.     And  go  ahead  with  the  check. 

Okay,  Gordy.  I'll  give  you  a  call  before  I  fire, 
but  we're  in  the  process  of  getting  ready  for  the 
RCS. 

Roger . 

Okay ,  Gordo .     Here  we  go . 

Gordy,  the  AGS  check  looked  good. 

Roger.     It  looked  good  here  also. 

Okay;  SYSTEM  A  QUAD  h  talkback  still  sticky. 

Roger,  Jack. 

Okay.     Here  we  go  on  the  PGSS ,  Gordy. 
Okay ,  Geno . 

Looked  good  here,  Gordy. 


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07  16  33  LMP-LM      And,  you've  got  DATA  and  POO. 

07  16  3h  00    CC  Okay.     Your  up-llnks  are  coming.     We'll  give  you 

a  vector  and  zero  the  pos/neg  cells.     Your  PiS  is 
okay . 

07  16  36  00    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  put  the 

ASCENT  BATTERIES  OK  according  to  the  procedures 
on  the  next  rage,  8-8,  just  a  little  early  because 
of  pre-conditioning  noticed  in  -  tefore  descent. 
And  we  checked  your  RGAs  during  the  hot  fire,  and 
your  hot  fire  itself,  and  they  both  looked  good. 

LMP-LM      Thank  you,  Gordo. 

07  16  36  28     CC  And,  Challenger,  it's  your  computer  nov. 

LMP-LM      ThEink  you. 

07  16  39  57     CDR-m      Gordo,  did  you  ever  get  any  vord  on  the  Rover 

batteries? 

No.     I  sure  haven't.     I  haven't  heard  on  that  one. 

CDR-U^      It's  not  important.     I  just  wondered  whether  those 
things  were  going  to  be  working  back  there. 

CC  Okay.     We've  got  no  reason  to  believe  they  won't. 

^^Tien  you  get  down  to  parking  the  r<;ndezvous  radar 
antenna  after  this  P57 ,  give  me  a  call.  We're 
going  to  change  the  parking  position. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

CDR-LM      Why  don't  you  just  give  me  the  numbers  now 


CC 


Oka^/.     Do  a  -  as  -  as  the  checklist  snovb ,  excet;t 
do  a  VERB  i+1  NOUN  72  to  0  and  30  de-grees .     Go  " 
to  SLEW,  and  then  delete  the  "manus.1  slew  for 
3  seconds."    They  want  to  leave  it  there  for 
temperature  purposes.     This  will  be  a  cooler  posi- 
tion for  it  during  ascent. 


CDR-LM  Okay.  Understand.  That's  0  and  0300 
CC  That's  affirmative. 


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CDR-LM      And  the  first  01  -  first  Oh  was  0.01. 

CC  Roger.     We  got  that. 

07  16  hk  28    CC  Challenger,  Houston.    We've  got  you  on  television 

nov.     We  have  a  good  picture. 

CDR-LM      Glad  to  see  old  Rover's  still  -working. 

07  16  U8  59    CC  Okay.    We  got  your  NOUN  05. 

07  16  Il9  21     CC  Go  ahead  and  torque  them. 

07  16  53  Ih    CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.    P12  looks  good,  and  the  PONS  is 

in  AUTO. 

07  16  53  20    CC  Okay,  Challenger.     There's  no  change  to  Oi+7  and 

053.     I  do  have  a  K-f actor  for  you. 

LMP-LM  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     It's  179:59:59-82.  Over. 

LMP-LM  Okay;  15  -  179:59:59.82. 

CC  That's  right.  Jack. 

07  16  55  25     CC  Challenger,  Houston.     I  have  a  couple  of  PIPA 

hias  updates  for  the  PGNS. 

07  16  55  39    LMP-LM      Okay.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  a  VERB  -  with  a  VERB  21  NOUN  01,  load 

address  1U52  with  O30U5,  and  load  address  lii5^  with 
O52I+6.  Over. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     That's  ll+52  with  030^5;  and  li+5^,  O52I+6. 

CC  Readhack ' s  good . 

07  16  57  02    LMP-LM      Okay.    They're  in,  Houston. 

CC  Okay.     Look  good  to  us. 

07  16  58  09     CMP-CM      Hey,  Houston;  America. 


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CC 


Roger,  ikaerica.  This  is  Houston.  You're  loud 
and  clear. 


07  16  58  21     CMP-CM      Okay,  Gordo.     Got  my  suit  on. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  gave  you  the  wrong  skinny  on  the 

Goimn  configuration  last  rev.  We're  actually,  now, 
in  a  full  MSFN  relay  mode.  We'd  like  you  to  stay' 
off  of  VOX.  Over. 

07  16  58  kk     CMP-CM      Can  do,     I'm  off  VOX. 

07  16  59  18    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     When  you  get  to  a  break 

point,  I  have  some  words  on  what  you  can  expect 
in  the  way  of  guidance  steering.  Over. 

■CDR-LM      Stand  by. 

07  17  00  08     CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     You  can  go  aliead  and  talk  while 

we're  putting  our  helmets  and  gloves  on. 

CC  Okay.     We  never  got  around  to  debriefing  you  on 

PDI,  but  the  out-of-plane  indications  you  saw  on 
the  AGS  during  descent  were  proper.     We  had 
changed  your  -  your  vector  slightly  just  prior 
to  PDI,  and  so  the  AGS  was  navigating  and  indi- 
cating properly.     We  just  ran  the  present  ascent 
targets  in  the  LMS  with  the  half-a-mile  crossrange 
as  shown  on  the  pad,  and  you're  going  to  be  steer- 
ing south.     That's  the  way  the  stesring  direction 
goes.     That's  to  your  left,  for  Geio's  benefit. 
And  the  crosspointer  indicated  a  majclmum  of  about 
13  feet-per-second  out-of-plane  velocity  at  about 
ignition  plus  3  minutes  and  50  seconds,  and  then 
came  on  back  to  zero.     Over.     That  -  that  velocity 
was  AGS  velocity. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  Gordo.     That's  good  informat;Lon  to  have. 

CDR-LM  Understand;  the  AGS  on  that  one.  Okay. 

07  17  02  1+3    CMP-CM  Okay,  Houston.    America  maneuvering  to  attituae. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

07  17  03  00     CMP-CM  Also  I'll  start  pumping  up  the  cab:.n,  DIRECT  0 


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CC 


Okay. 


07 

17 

03 

08 

LMP- 

■LM 

ASCENT  WATER  is  OPEK,  Houston. 

CC 

Roger . 

07 

17 

Oh 

2h 

CDR- 

-LM 

Okay,  Houston.     We're  at  lift-off  minus  17  minutes. 

and  VERB  U7  is  soine  over. 

CC 

Roger,  Challenger. 

07 

17 

05 

k5 

CC 

America,  we  see  your  catin  at  5-5- 

CMP- 

-CM 

Okay ,  thank  you . 

07 

17 

06 

Ok 

CMP- 

■Ch'i 

DIRECT  0^  is  CLOSED. 

07 

17 

06 

10 

CDR- 

■IM. 

Houston,  the  DESCENT  BATTS  are  coining  OFF. 

CC 

Roger. 

07 

17 

06 

21 

CC 

America,  it  looks  like,  to  us  here,  your  maneuver 

has  stopped.    Maybe  you  hit  the  stick. 

CMP- 

-CM 

You  roll  around  in  this  thing,  you  knock  the  thing 

nff  of  Infk 

07 

17 

06 

56 

CC 

Challenger,  we're  recommending  PONS  direct 

rendezvous . 

07 

17 

07 

02 

CDR- 

-LM 

Roger,  Gordo;  understand.     PGNS  direct  rendezvous 

for  Challenger . 

07 

17 

07 

58 

CC 

America;  OMNI  Delta,  please. 

07 

17 

08 

hh 

CC 

America,  this  is  Houston;  voice  check. 

07 

17 

08 

kG 

CDR- 

-LM 

Okay,  hold  - 

07 

17 

09 

02 

CDR- 

-LM 

Hello,  Houston;  Challenger.     Circuit  breakers  are 

configured.     We're  on  the  top  of  8-l6, 

CC 

Challenger  5  Houston.     Okay;  sounds  good. 

07 

17 

09 

17 

CDR- 

-LM 

And  we're  standing  by  for  lift-off  minus  10. 

CC 


Roger . 


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07  IT  09  35     CDR-LM      And,  Houston,  are  you  in  relay  now? 

07  17  09  ^0    CC  We  had  -  we  lost  high  gain  on  America,  so  we 

inhibited  the  down-link.     We're  not  in  relay,  no 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

CC  We're  actually  in  a  one-way  relay.     Ron  should 

be  ahle  to  hear  you,  but  not  vice  versa. 

07  17  11  01     CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston;  coming  up  on  10  minutes.     And  we' 

ready  to  pressurize  the  APS. 

07  17  11  06     CC  Okay;  you're  GO  to  pressurize  the  .\PS. 

07  17  11  1^     CDR-LM      Okay.     The  MASTER  ARM  is  coming  ON.     I've  got 

two  good  lights . 

07  17  11  22    CDR-LM      TANK  1  is  SELECTED.     Okay,  ASCENT  HELIUM  PRESS 

TANK  1,  FIRE.     Ready;  3,  2,  1  - 

07  17  11  33     CDR-LM      MARK  it.     We  got  a  squib  fired,  Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

07  17  11  52     CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  for  TANK  2. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  understand;  GO  for  TANK  2.     Ready?  Okay. 
3,  2,  1  - 

07  17  12  06     CDR-LM      MARK  it.     TANK  2.     We  got  the  squib. 

07  17  12  21    CC  Okay,  Challenger.     Both  tanks  look  good. 

CDR-LM      Wonder  why  they  didn't  balance  off? 

07  17  12  28    CDR-LM      Okay.    MASTER  ARM  is  coming  OFF,  and  the  lights 

are  out . 

07  17  12  3^^     CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack.     SYSTEM  A  ASCENT  FEED  2,  OPEN.  Okay 

monitor  your  -  okay. 

07  17  12  kQ     CDR-LM      SYSTEM  A  MAIN  SOV,  CLOSED.     How  does  it  look  to 

you? 

LMP-LM  Fine. 


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07  17  12  5i+  CDR-M 
07  17  13  02  CDR-LM 

CC 

CMP-CK 
CC 

07  17  13  35  CDR-LM 

07  17  13  kg  CC 

CDR-LM 
07  17  1^  11  CC 

07  17  1^  23  LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

07  17  15  27  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  29  LMP-LM 


Okay;  B  ASCEHT  FEED  2,  OPEN.     I  can  feel  them  In 
the  floor  when  they  go . 

Okay;  and  B  MAIN  SOV,  CLOSED.  Check  your  manifold 
pressiires.  Are  you  happy?  Okay,  Houston.  We  got 
ASCEKT  FEED. 

Roger.     And  America,  can  you  read  Houston?  Over. 

America.     Roger.     Loud  and  clear. 

Okay,  Ron.    You're  loud  and  clear. 

Okay.     We're  standing  by  for  5-  Houston, 
Challenger  is  GO  for  lift-off.    We're  at  7:5^  and 
counting . 

Roger,  Challenger.     You're  GO  for  lift-off. 

Roger.     Understand.     Challenger  is  GO  for  lift-off. 

ChaJ-lenger  5  Houston.    We  think  the  transducer  in 
tank  2  has  shifted.     We  want  you  to  monitor  tank  1 
for  APS  helium.  Over. 

Roger.     We  were  looking  at  that,  and  we'll 
monitor  1. 

What  of  this  do  you  want? 

I  need  the  -  the  big  one  there,  with  the  cards 
in  it . 

Here  you  go . 
Thank  you. 
That's  all  right. 
Okay. 

Okay.     Let's  go  over  the  APS  burn  card. 

Okay.     My  DISPLAY/EKGINE  OVERRIDE  LOGIC  breaker 
is  IN;  circuit  breakers  STAB/ CONTROL  all  CLOSED  on 
panel  11,  except  AEA  and  DECA  POWER. 


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07  17  15  39  CDR-LM 

07  17  15  h3  LMP-LM 
07  17  15  hk  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  U5  CDR-LM 

07  17  15  h9  LMP-LM 
07  17  15  52  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  53  LMP-LM 
07  17  15  5h  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  55  LMP-LM 
07  17  15  56  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  57  LMP-LM 
07  17  15  58  CDR-LM 
07  17  15  59  LMP-LM 
07  17  16  00  CDR-LM 
07  17  16  01  LMP-LM 
07  17  16  Oh  CDR-LM 
07  17  16  07  LMP-LM 
07  17  l6  10  CDR-LM 
07  17  16  13  LMP-LM 
07  17  16  Ik  CDR-LM 
07  17  16  15  LMP-LM 
07  17  16  l6  CDR-LM 
07  17  16  18  LMP-m 


Okay.     STAB/COKTROL  breakers  are  all  CLOSED 
except  AEA  and  DECA  POWER.  ' 

Okay.     LOGIC  breakers  IN. 

LOGIC  breakers  IN. 

And  all  of  mine  are  CLOSED  except  DESCENT  ENGINE 
OVERRIDE.     LOGIC'S  IN. 

Okay.     RATE  SCALE.  25  DEGREES  PER  !3EC0ND. 
25. 

ATTITUDE/TRANSLATION,  k  JETS. 
h-  JETS. 

BALANCE  COUPLE,  ON. 
ON. 

DEAD  BAUD,  MIN. 

DEAD  BAJ^D  in  MIN. 

ABORT/ABORT  STAGE,  RESET. 

ABORT/ABORT  STAGE  are  RESET. 

ATTITUDE  CONTROL,  three,  to  MODE  CONTROL. 

ATTITUDE  CONTROL,  three,  on  MODE  COmOL. 

Okay.     And  you're  going  to  be  in  AUTO  and  ATT  HOLD. 

PONS  is  AUTO,  and  AGS  is  ATT  HOLD. 

Stop  pushbuttons  are  reset,  and  -  - 

Reset  here, 

  And  you're  in  JETS. 

And  I'm  in  JETS. 
Okay. 


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07  17  16  22  CDR-LM 
07  17  l6  25  LMP-LiM 

07  17  16  3h  CDR-LM 
07  17  l6  37  IMP-m 
07  17  l6  38  cm-U4 
07  17  16  45  CDR-m 
LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 

LMP-LM 
CDR-LM 


LMP-LM 

07  17  18  02  LMP-LM 

07  17  l8  07  CC 

07  17  l8  12  LMP-LM 

07  17  18  l6  CC 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 

07  17  18  1+3  CDR-LM 


Okay,  let's  teike  a  swing  around  the  systems. 

I  Just  did.     Everything  looks    good.      The  pro- 
pellant  pressure  is  holding  up.     We're  tied  to  the 
ascent  tanks  on  the  RCS . 

Okay;  5  minutes  and  my  - 

That  EC   

REHDEZVOUS  RADAR  breaker  is  CLOSED. 

And  let's  go  to  the  timeline  hook. 

Got  it.    Make  sure  of  everything  in  here. 

Okay.     At  2  minutes ,  I'll  get  the  MASTER  ARM.  We 
already  are  VOX.     You'll  get  kOO  plus  1. 

Okay.     And  I'll  get  the  camera  and  -  - 

Okay.     At  10  seconds,  I'll  hit  the  ABORT  STAGE, 
followed  hy  the  ENGINE  ARM  to  ASCENT.     You  get  the 
PRO.     I'll  hackup  the  start.     If  we  don't  get  a 
start,  I'll  go  GUIDAJ^JCE  CONTROL  to  AGS.  I'll 
wipe  out  the  thrusters .     I'll  go  AGS  AUTO.  And 
if  we  don't  get  a  start,  we'll  back  off.  Okay? 

Okay. 

Houston,  we  have  an  awful  lot  of  noise  coming  up. 
Okay,  Challenger.     I  understand. 

I  think  we  can  read  you,  Gordy.     You  sound  pretty 
good  now, 

Roger. 

That's  VHF  noise,  Jack.     VHF  B. 

Okay.     I  can  cut  it  out  with  a  high  squelch  on 
Bravo , 

Okay,  Houston.     Challenger's  at  2  minutes  and 
50  seconds. 


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CC 

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07  17  19  22  CDR-LM 


Roger ,  Challenger  -  - 
We're  GO  for  PGNS   


Everything  looks  great  down  here. 
-  -  direct . 

I'm  not  going  to  "be  atile  to  squeloi  him  out 
more . 


Okay. 

Turn  the  volume  down  a  little  bit. 


Reading  you  loud  and  clear,  America.  This 
Challenger.  We're  coming  up  on  02:10  from 
lift-off. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRMSCRIPTION 


REST  PERIOD  -  NO  COMMUNICATIONS 
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APOLIXD  17  AIR-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

07  17  19  37     CDR-LI-1      We'll  be  with  you  shortly.     Okay,  Jack.  Douhle- 

check  your  LOGIC  POWER  breaker. 

LMP-m  Checked, 

CDR-LM  Okay,  MASTER  ARM  is  ON.     I've  got  two  good  lights 

LMP-LM  Okay.     1^  -  I've  got  UOO  plus  1  in. 

CDR-LM  Okay . 

LMP-LM  1^  watch  is  reset. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     You  got  367.     You  want  to  pick  up  the 
camera  just  before  I  hit  ABORT  STAGE. 

LMP-LM      One  minute  coming  up.  Gene. 

CDR-LM      Take  your  final  look  at  the  valley  of  Taurus- 
Littrow,  except  from  orbit.     Okay,  1  minute, 
Houston.    We're  50  seconds  now,  and  we're  GO. 

CC  Roger.     You're  looking  good  here. 

Cr-R-LM      I'll  get  that  at  30. 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

LMP-LM      Camera  -  camera's  not  going  to  run  without  me 
holding  it . 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Average  g,  20  seconds. 

LMF-LM      Oh,  shoot  I 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Now,  let's  get  off.     Forget  the  camera. 

LMP-LM      Ten  seconds. 

CDR-LM    10  seconds. 

MS-LM        ABORT  STAGE. 


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07  IT  21  30     CDR-LM    pushed.     ENGINE  AEM  is  ASCEKT. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     I'm  going  to  get  the  PRO;  99  PROCEEDED; 
3,  2,  1  - 

07  17  21  39     LMP-LM  IGNITION. 

CDR-UI  We're  on  our  way,  Houston. 

LIvip_LM  Rates  are  good.     AGS  solid. 

MS-LM  Pitchover! 

CC  Roger.     You  have  good  thrust. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  30  seconds;  308  is  your  number. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  coining  through  15OO  feet. 

LMP-LM  And  H-dot  looks  good. 

CC  Roger.     We've  lost  data  right  now,  but  ve  -  we'd 
like  AIT  OMNI,  APT  OMNI,  please. 

CDR-L14  Okay;  coming  up  on  hO  seconds.     And  we're  GO  - 
coming  right  over  the  top  of  Caraelot . 

CDR-LM  Awful  lot  of  static.  Jack.    We  "break  lock? 

LKP-LM  Yes . 

CDR-LM  Why  don't  you  get  it  on  an  OMNI,  or  isomething? 

K^-LM  Yes,  I  got  it.     It's  on  the  OMNI. 

CDR-LM  See  if  you  can  get  conrni  back. 

LMP-LM  Hello,  Houston.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Roger,  Challenger.     You're  loud  and  clear,  and 

both  systems  look  good.     You're  rlgh"  on  the  line, 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Should  be  about  1I+5  and  minus  1+7. 

CDR-LM  See  if  we  can  get  comm. 

LMP-LIvI  I  will. 


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CDR-LM      01:30,  Houston.     We're  in  the  tlind,  and  we're 
GO. 

CC  Roger.     We'd  like  the  AGS  to  AUTO. 

LMP-LM     Okay.    I  got  good  lock  -  Ho.    Trying  to  hold. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston;  conri.ng  up  on  2  minutes  -  - 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     You're  GO  at  2  minutes. 

We'd  like  AGS  to  MODE  CONTROL  AUTO.  Over. 

CDR-LM  -  -  Challenger  is  GO  and  coming  through  IUK. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     You  watch  the  table,  Geno. 

CDR-LM  I'm  watching  it.     Just  get  comm,  if  you  can. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     How  do  you  copy  Houston? 

07  17  2h  02    CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.     Challenger's  GO;  coming  up  on 

02:30.    We're  through  I9K. 

CC  Roger,  Challenger.    We  need  a  623  plus  10,000  in 

the  AGS.  Over. 

Ll'lP-LM      Well,  those  are  the  angles. 

CN5P-LM      How  about  an  -  an  omni  -  - 

LMP-LM      I've  got  -  I  tried  it.     I've  got  - 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     AFT  OMNI,  please.  Would 

you  relay,  America? 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston.     Three  minutes,  and  Challenger  is 
GO.     We're  through  25K. 

LMP-LM      I  tried  it  -  I  tried  it,  Ron,  and  it  doesn't 
hold.     It  doesn't  help. 

CDR-'LM      Try  AFT  OMNI  again,  Jack. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Tell  Challenger  -  - 


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LMP-LM      All  my  coram  breakers  are  in. 
CDR-LM      Try  AFT  OMNI  again. 

CC  -  -  that  they're  right  on  the  money  on  trajectory; 

both  systems  are  GO.  Over. 

CDR-LM      OKay,  Houston.     In  the  blind.  Challenger's  GO; 
coming  up  on  03:25  and  at  30K. 

CC  Okay   

LMP-LM      There's  APT.     How  do  you  read,  Houston? 

CC  America,  would  you  relay  to  Challen£;er  to  go 
AFT  OMMI? 

LMP-LM  We  are  AFT  OMNI.     How  do  you  read? 

CMP  Okay,  they  are  in  ATT  OMHI  right  now. 

CC  Okay,  America,  tell  Challenger   

Lfff-LM  And  we're  reading  Houston. 

CC  -  -  we're  reading  them  5  by. 

LMP-LM  Okay.     Vfe're  reading  you,  Houston. 

CC  Okay,  Jack  -  - 

CMP  Okay,  Challenger,  America. 

CDR-LM 

CMF  -  Yes,  you  got  them. 

  we  need  a  623  plus  10,000.     Jack,  give  us 

a  623  plus  10,000. 

07  IT  25  h3     CDR-LM      Okay,  h  minutes.     Challenger's  GO.  We're 

through  37K. 

CC  Roger,  Challenger.     You're  looking  good  here. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  that's  in. 


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CDR-LM      NOIM  3T  says  we  got  atout  a  0T:l6  burn.  Jack. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  at  0U:30,  I'll  be  about  282  coming  through 
hlK. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  0i+:30.     282  is  great;  UlK  is  great,  73  is 
good;  AGS  and  PGKS  are  right  together. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Ho-aston.     Challenger  is  GO.     We're  now 
through  Oi+:35- 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  terminate 

ASCENT  FEED  now. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  MAIN  SOV  is  going  ON. 

CC  And  the  reason  is  the  mixture  ratio  problem.  -  - 

LMP-LM  ASCENT  FEED,  CLOSED. 

CC  -  -  That's  just  to  te  conservative  and  safe.  Over. 

CDR-LM      Understand.     And  we're  going  5,  and  we're  now  out 
of  I48K. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  the  camera's  stopped. 

07  17  27  01    CDR-LM      Okay,  burn  time's  going  to  be  about  I8  or  19, 

07: 18  or  07:19,  Jack. 

LMP-LM  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    The  AGS  has  us  just  about  in  plane. 
CDR-LM      PONS  and  AGS  are  looking  good. 
LMP-LM      A  little  bit  north. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston,  05:^+0.     Challenger's  coming 

through  52K.     And  PONS  says  126  on  the  H-dot . 
We're  GO. 

LMP-LM      AGS  likes  the  plane. 


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CC 


Roger,  Challenger.  Your  trajectory  is  right  on 
the  money.    Both  systems  are  GO. 


CDR-LM      Get  a  good  shutoff  time  now. 
LMP-LM      Okay , 

Okay,  it'll  he  20  -  07:20  on  the  shutoff, 


CDR-LI/ 


LMP-LM      Okay,  we've  already  terminated  ASCENT  FEED.  You 
got  1300  to  go. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Let's  doublecheck  everything  now. 
LMP-LM      You  got  that ;  you  want  

CDR-LM      Next  move  is  at  200  feet.     ENGINE  ARM  OFF  with 

200  to  go.     AGS  and  PGITS  are  right  together.  We 
got  about  another  minute  to  go,  Hou£;ton.  And 
we're  coming  up  on  57K. 


CC 


Roger.     And  we  agree  with  the  -  - 


U'lP-LM      900  to  go 


CDR-LM 


...  out  nicely.  Okay,  H-dot  is  rour.ding  right 
out  to  the  target. 


LMP-LM      TOO  to  go. 
CDR-LM      Coming  up   

CC  Okay,  normal  shutdown  and  normal  trim  procedures 

LMP-LM      Thank  you. 

CDR-LM      Roger.     Normal  shutdown,  normal  trim.    Give  me 
a  hack  at  200 ,  Jack . 

LMP-LM      Okay,  it's  500  now  - 

07  IT  28  30    LMP-LM      MARK  it,  and  the  ascent  feeds  are  already 

terminated. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     Very  good. 

CDR-LM      Seven  minutes,  Houston.     And  we're  passing  59K. 


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LMP-LM  300;  stand  by.     200  to  go. 

LMP-LM  MARK  it. 

OT  IT  28  1+7    CDR-LM  Okay,  ENGINE  AEM  is  OFF. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  stand  by  for  shutdown;  80 ,  50  - 

07  17  28  57    LMP-LM  SHUTDOrai 

CDR-LM  Okay,  AUTO  shutdown   

LMP-LM  AUTO  shutdown. 

CDR-LM    Houston,  AUTO  shutdown. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  no  trim,  Houston;  no  trim. 

CC  Roger.     We're  reading  the  DSKY. 

CDR-LM  We're  showing  a  50  by  9.1. 

CC  Roger.     And  MSFN  confirms  that  orbit. 

LMP-LM      Okay.    AGS  got  a  little  bit  out  of  plane.  First 
one  was  0900.     Okay,  ENGINE  STOP  is  RESET. 

CDR-LM      Get  in  the  attitude  for  the  tweak.  Okay. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  AGS  says  it's  9.1. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     There  will  be  a  tweak. 

Stand  by  for  it . 

LMF-LM      1+8  by  9-1;  ^9  by  9.1. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  that's  our  attitude.     We're  in  attitude 
for  the  tweak. 

CC  Okay,  Challenger.     Here  is  your  tweak.  Ignition 

is  at  12  plus  12;        is  a  minus  l+.O;  Y,  minus  9-0; 

and  Z,  plus  1.0.     That's  at  12:12;  minus  1+ ; 
minus  9 ;  and  plus  1 . 

LI^P-LM      Roger.     That's  at  12:12;  minus  1+;  minus  9;  and 
pliis  1 . 


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LIC'-LM 
CDR-LM 
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CDR-LM 


That's  a  good  readback. 

Okay,  that's  out  of  -  Okay,  at  12:12,  Jack, 
we'll  do  the  X,  Z,  Y.     I'll  do  minus  h.     Then  I'll 
do  plus  1;  and  then  I'll  get  the  Y.     That's  going 
to  be  aft,  forward,  and  left.     At  12:12,  another 
minute . 

Okay . 

We're  in  the  attitude;  let  me  get   

Say  again.     You're  going  to  do  X  and  then   

-  -  X,  Z,  Y. 

X,  Z,  Y.     All  right.     AGS  is  ready. 

Okay,  we've  got  Fhj ,     Standing  by  .'or  12:12. 

Okay,  it's  10  -  20  seconds  away.  Okay. 

Okay,  I'm  going  to  do  X  first.     Okay,  let's  do 
it . 

Okay,  you  want  k.     Little  more.  Oi:ay? 

Okay,  and  1  forward. 

Here's  1  forward;  I'm  going  9  left. 

Okay.    Keep  her  coming,  keep  her  coming,  keep 
her  coming,  9  left.     That's  it. 

Okay,  Houston,  I  re  - 

Now  that's  it. 

Let  me  get  this  in. 

Good,  good. 

Okay,  Houston;  k.l,  9.0,  and  1.1.  -  - 
Okay,  that's  good. 

 minus  ,  minus  ,  plus  .     Okay ,  I+7  . 7  by  9.5. 


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CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      There's  those  mysterious  noises. 
LMP-m      Yes,  that's  right. 

CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     I'm  going  to  try  to 

get  the  VHF  ranging  reset. 

LMP-Li/i  Go  ahead.     We'll  keep  q.uiet . 

CMP  Okay,  reset  -  now. 

CMP  That  wouldn't  quite  do  it.     Let  me  try  it  again. 

CO  Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  FORWARD  OMNI. 

LliP-LM  ...     Okay;  you've  got  it,  Houston. 

CC  Okay,  you're  loud  and  clear. 

07  17  3^+  39    LJ'IP-LM      That  sounds  good  on  the  AGS,  Ron.     Gene's  getting 

lockon  yet . 

Cf-IP  Okay;  great. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  that  was  me.  Jack.     I  just  reset  the 
MASTER  ARM. 

LMP-LM  Okay . 

CDR-LM  No  functions  left  on  it,  anyway. 

LMP-LI/I  How  you  coming.  Gene? 

CDR-LM  Coming  good. 

L>IP-LM  P20  going,  huh?     26.6  breaking  

CDR-LM      That's  not  supposed  to  take  those  updates.  Until 
I  tell  it  to. 

LMP-LM      The  AGS  likes  the  tweak. 

CDR-LM      Shaft  and  trunnion  look  good. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston  -  - 


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CDR-LM 


:mp 


CMP 


CMP 
CC 


We've  gone  127  miles  in  -  1^3Q  feet  per  second. 

 that  616  should  "be  plus  four  "balls  5 .  Ove 

Okay,  Gordy.     I 'm  s  -  good  -  good  call. 


CC  Thank  you. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  America;  Challenger.     We've  got  you  at 
126  miles  locked  up  hard. 


Okay,  I  got  you  125.2  miles  now. 


LMP-LM      You  want  that  relay  still  on.  Gene?  We're 
getting  a  repeat  on  Ron. 


I  tell  you  what,  I'll  -  let's  turn  the  VHP  off. 


CDR-LM      Up  to  you,  Ron. 


Okay,  I'm  just  going  to  turn  the  VHP  off. 

Challenger,  Houston.     There  will  be  no  vector 
update,  no  PIPA  update.     The  NOUH  hSs  you're 
seeing  are  what  we  expect.     You  can  go  ahead  and 
accept  them. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Geno.     You  can  -  RAJJGE/RA^IGE  FATE,  shaft  and 
trunnion  are  all  GO  -  - 

CD^^-LM  Roger,  Gordo. 

LMP-LM  Okay,  you  like  everything? 

CDR-LM  You  can  start  taking  your  marks,  Jack. 

LMP-LM  Okay   

CDR-LM  The  DAP  is  changed. 

LMP-LM  -  122.     AGS  like  the  range. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     Also  you're  GO  for  APS  TPI . 


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CDR-LI^      Roger.     GO  for  APS  TPI .     We're  looking  good 
on  "board. 

CC  America,  Houston  -  - 

LMP-m      Okay . 

CC  -  -  the  riOUK  h9  you  have  there  looks  good  to  us. 

U^^p_L^J      Okay,  I  checked  the  inverter.     You  can  pull 
INVERTER  1  breaker. 

07  17  38  2T     CDR-LM      INVERTER  1  breaker  PULLED. 

CMP  I'm  going  to  . . ,     Okay,  you  want  me  to  -  you're 

not  going  to  ship  me  a  vector? 

OC  Negative.     No  up-link  for  you  either,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay . 

07  17  39  21    LMP-LM      Houston,  you  happy  with  the  omnis  from  the 

Challenger? 

CC  That's  af f irm.ative .     Keep  it  like  it  is. 

LMP-LM      Okay.     Terminator's  coming  up,  Geno .     We  got 
lights  and  everything  we  need? 

LMP-LM      AGS  looks  good. 

CMP  Challenger,  America.     I  don't  see  you  in  the 

sextant  yet.     But  it's  probably  because  of  Sun 
shafting  or  something. 

LMI^-LM      Okay,  anytime  you  want  them.     Okay,  ready?  I88? 

CDR-LM      Hello,  Houston.     Challenger  has  a  visual  on 
America  at  about  112  miles. 

CC  Okay,  and  America's  just  called.     I  don't  know  if 

you  heard  him.     He  hasn't  got  you  in  the  sextant 
yet.     You  might  check  your  light  on.     He  is 
getting  a  VHF  mark.  Over. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  light  is  OK. 

LI.IP-LM      Okay,  55  and  5700.     That's  good.     That's  right. 


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LMP-LM 

CC 

TJ^-LM 

CC 

LMP-LM 
LivIP-LM 
CDR-LM 

CC 

CBR-LM 
CMP 

CC 

LMP-LM 

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LMP-LM 

CMP 

CDR-LM 

CMP 


The  AGS  saw  that  out  of  plane,  Geno. 

Challenger,  this  is  Houston,     I  havs  a  MSFN  TPI 
for  you. 

Go  ahead. 

Okay.     DELTA-V^  is  a  plus  7^.0;  Y,   olus  3-9;  and 
Z,  plus  9.0.     DELTA-V  total  is  7I+.T.     And,  for 
once,  they  didn't  give  us  the  braking.  Jack. 

(Laughter)  Okay,  plus  jk.O,  plus  3.9,  plus  9.0, 
and  total      .0 . 

That  total  is  7^1.7. 

Sorry.     Okay,  7^.?. 

I'm  working  on  my  third  mark. 

And,  Houston;  Challenger.  I  still  have  a  visual 
on  America. 

Okay.     I'm  sure  Ron's  problem  is  he  is  looking 
into  the  Sun. 

That's  right  because  he's  sunlit  up  there. 
Oh,  you  are  correct,  Houston, 
Challenger,  we'd  like  AFT  OMNI  now. 
Okay,  going  AFT, 

America,  how  do  you  read  Challenger? 

He's  not  -  he's  turned  his  VHF  off.  You  want  it 
on? 

I'm  reading  you  relay  now.  Challenger.     This  is 
America. 

Okay,  that's  fine,  Ron. 

Let  me  know  when  you  want  a  voice  -  VK?  voice 
check,  there,  and  we'll  make  sure  we  go  to  VHF. 


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:.MP-LM      Okay.     And  we're  holding  you  at  93  miles  right 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


now. 


Roger.  That'd  be  about  92-7,  which  is  probably 
the  delay. 


CDR-LM      Okay,  and  you  just  vent  into  darkness  up  there. 
I  lost  you. 


Should  be  able  to  see  you  now,  then. 


CDR-LM      Yes,  we're  also  in  darkness. 


You  sure  you  got  your  tracker  light  on? 


CDR-LM      That's  affirm.     I  can  see  it  flashing.     We  do 
have  our  tracker  light  on. 

L?€P-LM      See  it  flashing? 

CDR-LM      Yes,  I  see  a  reflection  on  -  - 


Oh,  I  see  it.  Hey,  I  can't  see  you  in  the  tele- 
scope, but  I  got  you  right  in  the  sextant. 


CDR-LM  Good.     Outstanding,  Babe. 

LI-dP-LM  I  got  it .  ... 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     Wo  update  on  your  LM  weight 

CDP.-LM  Okay;  imderstand.     No  update  on  the  weight. 

And,  Houston,  I'm  going  to  accept  that  because 
he  was  about  1  degree  -  almost  to  the  edge  of  the 
sextant . 


07  17  ^7  25    LMP-LM      Houston,  can  you  tell  Challenger  what's  wrong  with 

our  high  gain? 


CC 


CMP 


Stand  by,  Challenger.  For  America,  go  ahead  and 
accept  that  one. 

Okay,  brought  him  right  in  -  This  is  America  - 

brought  him  right  into  the  center. 


CC  Challenger,  Houston.    Jack  -  - 


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LMP-LM      Okay,  Houston  -  - 


-,-  i^"  you  have  a  free  moment,  you  might  try  the 
steerable  again:     PITCH,  120;  YAW,  minus  70. 

LMP-LM      Okeydoke,  Gordy;  120  and  minus  TO. 

LMP-LM      And  -  Okay,  Houston,  that's  AUTO  or  the  HIGH  GAIN, 
How  do  you  read? 


CC 


Jack,  you're  loud  and  clear.     Looks  good. 


07  17  h9  57    LMP-LM      Gordy,  I  don't  know  what  broke  lock.     Did  you 

read  us  all  through  ascent?  We  had  some  up-link 
signal  strength. 


CC 


That's  affirmative.  We  read  you  loud  and  clear 
all  the  way.     We  haven't  figured  it  out  either. 


LMP-LM  Okay,  we  had  a  loud  up-link  squeal  - 
CC  Roger. 


LMP-LM 


  on  all  -  on  omnis  -  on  ommis  as  well  as  high 

gain. 


CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      That's  steerable 

LMP-LM      Excuse  me. 


CDR-LM 


Okay,  Gordy,  Challenger's  state  vec-;or  is  locked 
in  with  the  raw  data.    We've  got  12  marks  going 
for  us  now. 


CC  Roger, 

CDR-LM  And,  Houston,  could  we  have  an  LOS  time,  please? 

CC  Yes .     Stand  by. 

CC  Challenger,  LOS  should  be  188:51:15. 

CDR-Kd  Roger.  51:15. 

07  17  52  18    CDR-LM  America,  Challenger.    We  got  you  now  just  under 

72  miles,  and  we're  279  feet  per  second  closing. 


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CMP  Okay,  got  you  71  miles. 

CtIP  Hello,  Challenger;  America.     You  still  there?  I 

lost  all  my  noise. 

CDR-LI-l      Affirmed.     We're  still  here.     And,  Ron,  that   ...  is 
coming  right  up  the  pike. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.    For  your  information,  the 

out-of-plane  difference  that  we  -  that  you 
probalDly  saw  there  during  ascent  was  -  we  think  - 
in  the  PGWS.    The  AGS  is  okay.    There's  probably 
a  slight  ...   in  the  PGIS . 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Gordy.  Understand. 

CC  Challenger  and  America,  Houston.     If  that  noise, 

which  is  due  to  low  signal  strength  on  America, 
is  bothering  anyone,  we  could  break  down  the  relay 
and  let  you  talk  to  each  other  VHP.  Over. 

CDK-LM      Yes,  sir,  Houston.     This  is  ChaJ.lenger.  Let's 

break  down  the  relay.     And,  America,  let's  go  VIiP. 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  Okay,  America.     I'm  on  VHP. 

Ci^^P  Okay;  good. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Houston.     We  have  America  on  VHP. 

CC  Roger. 

CI^iF  I  still  got  your  echo  there.  Challenger.  This 
is  America. 

CDR-LM      Okay . 

LMP-LM      Gordy,  you  want  to  give  us  an  explanation  of  the 
ascent  engine  mixture  ratio  problem. 

CC  Let  me  get  that  story  myself.     We're  still  looking 

at  the  data.     I'll  try  to  have  one  for  you  before 
we  lose  you  —  at  lea.st  the  next  time  around,  we 
wi].l. 


Tape  I2I+/I6 


LMP-LM      Okay.     Yes.     Go  ahead.     Go  ahead.     How  many  marks 
you  got?     35.5.    Okay.     Go  ahead.     Go.  Go. 

07  17  56  30    IMP-LM      Well,  not  very  in  Z ;  15  feet  per  second  difference 

But  it  agrees  with  the  AGS,  if  that  makes  you  feel 
any  better. 

CDR-LM      Hello,  Hoioston.     You  were  looking  s.t  our  NOUK  8ls 
on  the  recycle.     That's  I7  marks. 

CC  Roger,  Challenger.     And  what  it  was  on  the  APS 

there,  we  saw  an  indication,  prohahly  due  to  a 
temperature  shift,  which  was  a  possible  indication 
of  unbalance  in  propellant  usage  there.     And  it 
was  sort  of  confirmed  by  an  increase  in  the  roll 
moment  offset,  so  we  just  played  the  conservative 
thing  and  terminated  ascent  feed. 

LMP-LM      Okay,  Gordy.     Thank  you.     I  was  just  curious 
exactly  what  it  was. 

CC  Okay,  and  it's  no  problem  for  our  TPI  on  the  APS. 

07  17  57  56     U-IP-LM  Understand. 

CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     I  got  tie  NCUTJ  81  for 

you  to  recycle . 

LMP-LM      Okay . 

CMP  I  agree  with  you  pretty  well. 

LMP-LM  Outstanding. 

CMP  Well,  I  say  TPI  is  about  k.9,  off  5  feet  per 

second. 

America,  Houston.     Let's  try  the  HI(}H  GAIfi : 
PITCH,  0;  YAW,  30;  MAIIUAL  and  WIDE  and  leave  it 
in  MABTUAL. 

Hey,  relay  to  me.     I  can't  hear  then,  Challenger. 
Can  you  do  that? 

Challenger,  Houston  -  - 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Tape  I2I+/17 


CMP 

LMP-LM 
CC 

LMP-LM 

CC 
CMP 

LMP-LM 
CMP 

CC 
CMP 

07  18  00  5^  LI^P-LM 
CC 

CMP 

CC 

CDH-LM 

CC 
CMP 


That's  all  right.     I'll  get  them. 

Go  ahead,  Houston.     This  is  Challenger. 

Okay,  would  you  relay  to  America  to  try  the  HIGH 
GAIN:     PITCH,  0;  YAW,  30;  MANUAL  and  WIDE. 

You  want  PITCH ,  0  ;  YAW  at  30 ;  MAIJUAL  and  WIDE . 
That's  pitch,  0,  yaw  30;  MJINUAL  and  WIDE. 

Yes,  that's  affirmative. 

Okay,  I  got  them. 

Okay.     He's  working  at  it. 

It  doesn't  work.     B  is  better  than  that.  There's 
OMNI  A;  how's  that? 

Challenger,  Houston.  Over. 

Houston,  America.     How  do  you  read  me? 

Go  ahead,  Houston.     This  is  Challenger, 

Okay.     Stand  hy,  America.     We  just  "barely  read 
you.     Go  ahead. 

Okay,  just  a  second.     I  can  read  you  loud  and 
clear  now. 

Okay,  you're  readable.     For  Challenger,  the  MSFK  Z 
was  kind  of  weak.     We're  expecting  more  like  a 
plus  20  for  the  DELTA-V     solution  for  TPI ,  and 

Zj 

that's  what  all  the  airborne  systems  seem  to  be 
converging  on.  Over. 

That  sounds  right.     VJe  prepared  that  way  up  here. 
Glad  to  hear  that.    Thank  you. 

Roger . 


And,  Houston,  Challenger.     We're  plotting  "Chem 
right  on  the  black  line.     Coming  right  up  the 
pike . 


Tape  12i+/l8 


CC  Okeydoke.     Soimds  great 

CMP 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  Challenger;  America.  I  got  you  1+9  miles  now. 
Okay? 

Okay.     I'll  check  it  again  pretty  quick,  but  I 
had  the  running  lights  and  the  rendezvous  light 
on . 

Challenger,  this  is  Houston.     If  yoj  lose  the 
steerables  ...  blockage,  go  to  APT  OMNI. 


LMP-LM  Roger. 


07  18  03  k3    CMP  Okay,  Challenger;  America.     They're  both  checked 

on.     I'm  going  to  check  the  circuit  breakers. 


CDR-LM 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


Yes.     They  are  both  IN,  and  I  -  I  Just  started 
picking  you  up  in  the  telescope. 

(Laughter)     You're  going  to  sleep  with  them. 
They're  too  big. 

(Laughter)     I  don't  care  what  you  Icrak  like;  come 
on  back.     I  was  going  to  shave  and  :.ook  nice  for 
you,  but  I  didn't  have  time  to  shave  either. 
So  -  (laughter) 

Yes ,  I  heard  you  lost  a  couple  fenders  or 
something. 


07  18  07  10     CMP  I'm  with  you.     I'm  already  in  final  comm. 
CDR-LM      Okay ,   . . . 

CMP  Your  what? 

CMP  Well,  let  me  doublecheck  it.  188:5^:57.00 

CMP  We're  lucky.  (Laughter) 

CMP  That's  right. 

CMP  Okay,  you  ready  to  copy  my  NOUU  8ls? 


Tape  I2U/I9 


CDR-LM 

CMP 
CC 
CMP 
CMP 

CC 

CC 

07  18  10  06  CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-LM 

CC 

CDR-LM 
07  18  10  h3  CC 

07  18  31  XX 


Go  ahead. 

Minus  75-9,  mimis  h.8  -  - 

Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  APT  OMNI  now. 
-  -  and  Z  is  a  minus  17.6. 

Okay,  copy  correctly.     I'll  maneuver  to  TPI 
attitude . 

America,  Houston.     vfe'd  like  NARROW  and  REACQ  on 
the  HIGH  GAIN. 

Challenger,  Houston.    We  see  you  heading  toward 
gimbal  lock.  Over. 

No,  you  don't.     I'm  just  rolling  -  yawing. 

Okay,  let  me  check  tack  on  that  call;  sorry. 

Yes,  this  is  Just  normal  procedure.  I'm 
rolling  180. 

Okay,  we're  about  2  minutes  to  LOS.     All  the  solu- 
tions look  good  to  us.     I  guess,  if  we  apply  the 
voting  logic,  we  go  with  the  PGNS .  Over. 

Okay,  we've  already  decided  that  we  are  going 

to  go  with  the  PGNS.     All  the  solutions  look  good 

on  our  onboard  comparison,  Gordo. 

Roger . 


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Tape  125/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TMBfSCRIPTION 


07  18  56  09     CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America  here. 

CC  Roger,  America.     You're  loud  and  clear. 

CMP  Okay.     Do  you  have  him  on  the  tube? 

CC  Not  yet,  Ron.     I'll  let  you  know. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Houston,  we're  reading  you  loud  and  clear. 

We're  at  1  mile  and  I  just  broke  into  30  feet  per 
second.     TPI  was  nominal. 


CC 


CC 


Okay,  Challenger.     That's  good  news. 


CDR-L1<      Okay.     And  the  midcourses  were  all  less  than 

1.6  feet  per  second,  and  we're  at  0.8  miles  now  - 
5000  feet. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  our  next  breaking  gate  is  at  3000  feet. 

CDR-LM      Ron,  I've  got  a  platform.     I  can  see  the  command 
and  service  module  now. 

CI^  Okay. 

CJ)R~m      We're  at  i+20C  feet  -  30  feet  per  second.  And 
inertial  line  of  sights  are  both  zero. 

America  and  Challenger,  this  is  Houston.  We've 
got  a  good  picture  of  the  Challenger  coming  up 
from  the  surface  of  the  Moon. 


CMP  (Laughter)     It's  coming  straight  up,  all  right, 

CDR-LiM      Okay,  Ron.     Coming  up  to  3000  feet.     I'm  going 
to  brake  off  to  20. 


CXl? 


Okay . 


Tape  125/2 


ULR-LM      Hold  on;  here  we  so. 


CDR-LM 


^jid  we're  2500  feet  and  20.7  feet  per  second. 
Fifteen  on  110, 


07  18  58  33    CBE-m      Got  you  centered  in  the  needles,  Ron. 


CMP 


Okay,     You're  looking  good. 


:dr-LM      Coming  up  right  at  -  you  at  -  under  11^+  - 

116  degrees.     1900  feet,  20  feet  per  second. 


CMP 


Okay.     Quarter  of  a  mile,  I  got  you. 


CDR-LM      I  can  see  your  thrusters  firing  now,  Ron.  We're 
at  1500  feet  braking. 

CMP  Okay. 

07  18  59  31    CDR-LM      Okay,  Ron.     We're  at  1200  feet  and  8.8  feet  per 

second. 


CMP 


Okay,  that's  about  right.  Concur. 


CDR-LM      Yes,  you  do  have  a  stub  of  an  antenna  out  there 
on  the  same  side  that  the  VHP  antenna's  on. 


CMP 

CDR-m 
CMP 


Yes,  how  far  is  it  sticking  out? 

I  can't  tell  yet,  but  about  -  from  wnere  I  am, 
about  a  third  of  the  way  -  a  third  of  the  length 
of  the  VHP  antenna. 


Oh,  that's  not  very  far. 
CDR-LM     No,     Okay,  we're  at  970  feet. 
CDR-LM      800  feet  and  we're  at  8.8  feet  ^er  second. 


CMP 


Looks  like  Challenger's  in  good  shape.  1  don't 
see  anything  hanging  down  or  anything. 


CDR-U^I      Sne's  in  excellent  shape.     Okay,  we're  at  650  Test 
and  5.8. 


CMP 


Okay. 


Tape  125/3 


CDR-LM 
CKP 

CDR-LM 

GDR-LK 
CMP 

GDR-LM 

CMP 

CDR-m 

CDR-LM 
CDR-LM 

CMP 

07  19  02  Ik  CDR-LM 
CDR-L.M 

CDR-LM 
CJ'IP 

CDR-LM 


God,  you  look  pretty.     Yes,  you  Just  got  a  snail 
stub,  Ron.     Probably  not  more  than  a  couple  of 
feet. 

( Laughter) 

600  feet,  braking  to  5.     Okay,  I've  got  5.0,  and 
I'm  at  520  feet. 

Ron,  I'm  closing  at  5  feet  per  second,  khO  feet. 
Okay. 

Good  to  see  you. 

Good  to  have  you  all  back  up  here. 

It's  been  a  good  trip.     Okay,  I'm  at  5  feet  per 
second  and  350  feet. 

Taking  off  a  couple.     I'm  at  3  feet  per  second,  280. 

Just  great.     Okay,  Ron,  2k0  feet  and  3  feet  per 
second. 

Okay,  keep  her  coming.     Nice  and  easy.  Getting 
a  lot  of  pictures. 

200  feet  and  3  feet  per  second.     I  got  2  feet  per 
second  and  I'm  at  170  feet. 

liiO  feet  and  2  feet  per  second.     About  3  feet  of 
that  antenna,  Ron,  and  we'll  get  a  better  look  at 
it  vhen  you  pitch  over. 

Okay. 

Everything  else  looks  clean. 

Man,  that  Challenger's  a  beautif\il  vehicle. 

You  bet  you. 

One  little  strap  flopping  on  the  top  of  it,  and 
that's  all. 


Tape  125/1+ 


CDR-LiM 
CI4P 


Ol^ay,   i've  got  2  feet  per  second;   I'm  at  100. 

Hey,  Houston,  you  can  see  that  strap  flopping  up 
there  now  on  the  TV,  hut  that's  the  only  thing. 


CC  Okay,  Ron.     "We  haven't  picked  it  cut,  but  we  do 

have  a  perfect  picture. 

07  19  03  35     CDR-m      Bon,  I'm  sneaking  in  at  about  -  a  little  over 

1  foot  per  second. 


CMP 


IMP 


Okay,  I'm  trj-ing  to  keep  you  on  the  -  the  tuoe 
here,  so  -  How  come  you  -  how  come  you  guys  do 
everything  upside  down? 


Okay,  let's  let  it  drift  in  like  this  slowly. 
CMP  Okay.     You  still  have  it. 

CDR-LM      I've  still  got  it. 

CDR-LIvl      Ron,  I'm  going  to  stop  it  here,  ani  you  can  do 
your  maneuver, 

CMP  Okay, 

CDR-LM  Okay,  I'm  stationkeeping  on  you. 

Cfn?  Okay;  I'll  do  my  VERB  kg. 

CDR-IM  Seem  okay.  Jack? 

LW?-m  Yes, 

CDR-LT-:  Okay. 

Oh,  I  got  to  get  a  picture  here,  tc^o. 


CDR-LJ.'      Okay,  will  do.     Stand  by. 

C:/p  Just  another  couple  of  pictures  here.     Got  tne: 

25  -  and  a  319,  23k,  and  0  ...  Okay,  you  reaa; 
u'ack? 

CDR-Iivi      I'll  ...  that;  Jack. 


Tape  125/^ 


CM  CMP  Okay,  here  we  go. 

07  19  05  07     CMP  I-'IAEK  it.     ...   a  minute. 

CDR-LK      Yes,  I'm  going  to  get  the  radar  out  of  the  way, 

hut  I'm  not  going  to.     I'll  lose  him  here  as  soon 
as  his  transponder  get  out.     I'm  going  to  jlust 
stationkeep.     Ron,  your  probe  looks  good.     I  can 
see  it  extended. 


CyS?  Okay;  great. 

CDR-LI'^      The  radar  holds  you  -  well,  we  don't  hold  you 
anyinore . 

CDR-LM      ...  Radar's  "being  stowed  now,  Ron. 
CMP  Okay . 

CC  America,  we'd  like  OIVINI  Delta,  please. 

CDR-LM      Houston,  America  and  -  - 
CMP  OMil  Delta? 

CDR-LM      Houston,  .America  and  Challenger  -  are  ...   a  good 
tight  Nai/y  formation. 

CC  Roger,  C-eno. 

CDR-Ii-i      Hey,  Ron.     I  may  have  to  take  hack  what  I  said. 

That  thing  I  thought  was  an  antenna  is  nothing 
more  than  your  EVA  light  out  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CDR-LM      From  where  I  was,  it  looked  like  -  looked  like 
it  was  coming  out  the  other  side  -  - 

CyiP  Yes. 

CDR-LM      -  -  but  I  think  you're  clean. 

CMP  Okay.     Kow  the  one  I'm  concerned  about  is  on  -  is 

on  the  otner  side  from  the  EVA  antenna  -  EVA  light. 


Tape  125/6 


CDR-LiM 
CMP 

07  19  07  18  CMP 

CDR-LM 
LMP-LM 
CDE-m 

07  19  08  05  CDR-LM 
CMP 

cm~m 
cm~uA 

CMP 

CDR-LM 

Cfff 

CDR-LM 

c;/p 

CDR-LM 

CfJ' 

CDR-:uM 
CDR-Lf'I 


No-uh  uh.  You  were  clean  over  thsTe. 
Oh,  okay. 


Tne  bottom  of  your  vehicle's  got  a  bunch  of  tinfoil 
on  it.     It's  a  little  bit  scorched;  but  it's  all 
intact,  as  far  as  -  as  much  as  I  can  tell. 

...   this  bird  is  good  enough  to  fly  again. 


Yes,  sir.     I'll  even  move  left.     How's  that?  We 
got  60  percent  left,     ...  i  like  to  fly. 

You  in  your  maneuver,  Ron? 

Yes.     It's  maneuvering  now. 

Okay,  I'm  going  to  go  out  and  take  a  peek  at  your 
SIM  bay  up  here.     Yes,  I  know. 

See  him  okay.  Jack?    See  him  okay? 

Okay,  we're  getting  pretty  close  now.  About 
another  5  degrees  of  roll  is  all.     Can  you  see  i-.? 

Yes  . 

Kow  does  the  mapping  camera  look?     Should  be  all 
covered  up. 

Stand  by. 

Okay. 

...   fly  over  there  and  take  a  look  at  it . 
Okay . 

Sun's  shining  right  in  it. 

Oicay,   -.on.     It  looks  intact  here.     There's  cr.e 
cover  -  - 


Challenger,  Houston.  Over. 


Tape  125/7 


...  cover  on  the  right-hand  side.     Go  ahead. 

We'd  like  you  take  a  special  look  at  the  pan  camera 
and  see  if  you  xhink  may"be  the  lens  is  not  com- 
pletely stowed.  Over. 

No,  I'm  looking  at  this  thing  upside  down.  There's 
the  Sun  -  give  me  the  location  again  of  the  pan 
camera,  Houston. 

It's  a  round,  harrel-type  object,  approximately 
right  in  the  center  of  the  SIM  "bay. 

It's  just  -  if  you  were  standing  in  the  shoes, 
the  pan  camera  would  be  right  in  front  of  you. 

It's  stowed;   it's  flush.     There's  one  door  open, 
Ron.     If  you  were  standing  in  the  shoes,   it's  at 
the  bottom  hand  -  bottom  left-hand  side  of  the 
SIM  bay. 

Bottom  left-hand  side,  if  you're  standing  in 
the  shoes. 

Yes.  It  looks  like  two  covers  open  there.  Doesn't 
it.  Jack? 

Yes.     Okay;  well,  that's  part  of  the  mapping 
camera  -  botton  of  that  door  that  pushes  open 
by  itself. 

Okay,     Well  that's  the  only  thing  that's  open. 
Everything  is  flush. 

Okay.     You  think  -  is  that  a  door  that  extends  - 
if  you're  standing  in  the  shoes  -  that  extends 
out  the  bottom  of  the  SIM  bay  or  one  that  exxencs 
out  -  if  you're  standing  on  the  shoes  -  it  wouIg 
be  one  uhe  -  extending  on  the  left  side  of  the 
SIM  bay? 

Yes.     It  extends  out  tne  left  side  towards  Lhe 
front  of  the  spacecraft  down  in  the  bottom  left- 
hand  comer,   if  you're  standing  in  the  snoes.  l;o 
you  don't  -  - 


Tape  125/8 


Yes,     Okay.     Yes,  that's  the  one  taat  the  cajTiera 
pushes  open  by  itself. 

Okay.     Well,  that's  good.     I  can't  see  anything 
that's  abnormal  down  there.     Everything's  covered; 
everything's  flushed. 


CC  Challenger,  Houston. 

Okay, 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.  Over. 

07  19  12  11     CMP  Kcuston,  were  you  csilling  America? 

CDR-LM      Go  ahead. 


CC 


Some  more  vords  on  identifying  whei:her  the  pan 
camera  is  stowed  or  not.     The  pan  (;aiiiera,   as  Ron 
said,,   is  right  in  front  of  the  shoes.     And,  if 
it's  stowed  -  well,  if  it's  not  stc^wed  properly, 
you  should  be  able  to  see  the  lens  or  probably 
part  of  it.     And  if  it's  fully  stewed, \here '1^ 
be  just  a  plan-faced  barrel  facing  outward  - 
silver  colored.  Over, 


CDR-LM      It's  stowed,  Houston. 
CC  Okay.     It  sounds  good. 

It's  got  to  be  -  there's  nothing  -It's  stowed. 


DE-m 


CDR-LM      The  only  thing  abnormal  is  the  ser-\'ice  inod'ole 

plates,  just  fo;-Tjard  -  plus-X  -  of  the  SIM  bay, 
are  all  blistered.     It's  forward  of  those  EVA 
handholds . 


Roger.     We  copy  that.     Our  concern  -  or  tne  reason 
we're  asking  about  the  pan  camera  is  -  we  have  a 
higher  than  normal  temperatures  in  the  pan  camera, 
and  we  were  concerned  whether  it  was  either  not 
completely  stowed  or  maybe  there's  a  heater  stuc.t 
on.     We'll  check  the  heater  out  later  on  here. 


Tape  125/9 


CDR-LM      I'm  going  aroimd  the  other  side  here  a  little 
hit,  hut  it's  -  Yes,  the  long  barrel,  through 
the  center  down  -  X~X  axis,  deep  into  the  SIM 
bay  -  then  you  have  a  little  barrel  -  oh,  about 
3  in_ches  -  2  or  3  inches  -  like  about  a 
500-millimeter  lens  on  a  Hasselblad  -  sticking 
straight  up,  perpendicular  to  SIM  bay,  and  it's 
well  flushed.     It's  inside  the  box  that  it's 
next  to. 

CC  Okay,  Geno. 

CDR-m      Yes,   it's  normal.     Tliere  '  s  nothing  that's  unstowed 
in  that  thing. 

CDR-LM 

CC  Challenger,  America.     That's  good  on  the  inspection 

from  questions  from  here  anyway.  Clear  to  continue 
and  proceed  with  docking. 

Cl-IP  Okay. 

CDR~LM      It  is  unbelievable.     This  is  the  greatest  flying 
in  the  world,,  Ron. 

CJ4P  (laughter) 

CDR-LM  Can  you  see  me? 

CMP  Yes,  I  can  see  you.     Right  in  there.  Yes. 

CDR-LM  Reach  out  and  tickle  your  probe. 

CI4P  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CDR-LM  Okay.     Let's  get  -  let's  get  this  business  going. 
Let's  get  in  a  docking  attitude. 

CMP  Okay;  we'll  ir.aneuver  to  the  docking  attitude  here. 

CDR-LM      Ron,  I  can  also  see  where  your  -  where  your  HF 

comes  out  on  this  side,  and  -  and  it's  flush  with 
the  box.     It's  completely  showed. 


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CMP  Okay.     Well,  that's  the  one  that  ve  think  is,  zhe 

one  on  that  side.     The  other  side  is  the  one  that 
we  are  a  little  concerned  with,     ^^e  don't  worry 
ahout  it . 

CDR-m      It's  stowed  too. 

CW  Oh  J  okay. 

CDR-LM      We  were  over  there. 


CMP 


Okay.  And  I'm  maneuvering  back  to  the  docking 
attitude. 


07  19  15  1+3    CDR-LM      Your  high  gain  is  not  pointing  at  the  Earth, 

though,  I  don't  helieve. 


CMP 


Oh,  we're  not  using  it  yet.  It's  pointing  where 
the  Earth  will  he  when  we  maneuver  hack  around. 


CDR-m  Okay. 

LKP-LM  Another  one  from  there? 

CDR-LM  I'd  try  11  and  8.     That's  what  I'm  doing. 

L!^rP-LM  Eight . 


:dr-lm 


...  Guess  i  ought  to  pull  lay  radar  "breakers,  now 
that  it's  stowed. 


:;MP  Okay,  Houston,   can  you  see  my  logic;  yet?     Or  you 

wajrit  to  wait  until  the  high  gain?     This  is  America. 


CC  We  can  see  it  now,  Ron.     We  can  do  it  now. 

:MP  Okay,  LOGIC  1. 

07  19  16  k3     CNF  MARK  it.     LOGIC  2. 

07  19  lb  hb    CNT  >1ARK  it. 

CC  Ron,  you're  GO  for  PYRO  ARM. 

OP  Ckay . 


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CDR-KM      Backing  off  here  a  little  "bit,  Ron.     Give  you  a 
chance  to  maneuver. 

CDR-UI      Hey,  Jack,  what  are  we  forgetting?     Let ' s  see  the 
high  gain  was  -  or  the  rendezvous  radar  is  stowed. 
Okay,  as  soon  as  he  gets  his  attitude,  I'll  get 
to  mine. 

CDR-LI''.      Looks  like  you've  been  flying  well  up  there, 
partner.     The  spacecraft  looks  good. 

Ct'iP  Oh,  you  "bet  you. 

CDR-W.  How  far  you  got  to  go  on  your  maneuvers? 

07  19  16  22    CMP  Ahout  another  60  degrees  of  roll  yet. 

CLR-Uvi  Okay. 

CMP  And  a"bout  10  degrees!  pitch. 

CC  America,  gii^e  us  OMJI  Alfa. 

CDR-KM  Hey,  Ron   

CMP  Omni  ...  Oh,  no,  there  we  go. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Ron,  I  can  confirm  your  other  HF  antenna 
is  stowed. 

CI'IP  Okay.  good.     Thank  you. 


OT  19  19  32     Clvff-  Okay,  Lhe  PYROs  are  ON.     Sorry,  "but  I  am  out  of 

film  in  the  DAC.     You  guys  will  just  have  to  -  - 


CDR-LM      Ko  probleir.. 

Civip   be  on  TV  (laughter). 

CDR-LM      So  problem.     Let's  Just  get  in  attitude  and  get 
those  capture  latches  in  that  drogue. 

C^I'  Okay. 


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CC 
CMP 

CDR-LM 

CC 


ClvIP 

CDR-LM 


Ron,  the  high  gain  angles  look  gocjd.     Go  HARROW 
and  REACQ,  and  we  should  have  you. 

Okay.     I'm  in  attitude.  Gene. 

Okay,  let  me  position  so  I  can  get  in  attitude. 

And,  America  and  Challenger,  we've  got  a  beautiful 
picture  once  again. 


LMP-LM  Very  good,  Gordy.     We're  happy  to  give  it  to  you. 

CDR-LM  This  worked  out  great,  Ron. 

CMP  Yes,   it  sure  did. 

CDR-M  Null  PGNS,   and  then  I'll  give  it  to  you  shortly. 

CDR-LM  Okay,  Ron,  you've  got  it. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDP.-Lr4  Okay,  you've  got  it.     I'm  going  into  ciy  maneuver. 

CMP  I've  got  it. 

CDR-Ii-d  Ard  that's  the  landing  site  down  t  aere .  We 
pitched  right  through  the  landing  site. 

CMP  You  did? 

CDR-LM  Yes . 


Key,  good  (laughter).  Your   

Hey,   don't  -  don't  hit  that  hand.     It's  ... 

Yes  (laughter).     Well,  the  drogue  :.s  still  ir.  -here. 


:DR-lM      Okay.     x've  got  you  right  out  the  overheaa,  Ron. 
Jj'ow  I'm  going  to  yaw. 

Okay,  yaw  her  aro-ond. 


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CDR-LM  Okay,  here  we  go.  What  a  super  flying  machine! 
^■^P  still  looks  kind  of  tinny  to  me. 


CDR-m      He's  not  going  to  have  to  do  anything  but  thrust 
right  into  the  -  I  might  even  get  your  roll  angle 
zero  for  you  by  -  by  this  maneuver.     Okay,  it's 
all  yours . 

Cr4P  (Laughter)     Okay,  I've  got  her. 

CDR-LM      Should  be  looking  -  I'm  looking  right  up  your 
vfindow. 

CMP  Well,  I  got  to  translate  through  the  -  sideways 

a  little  bit  here. 

CDR-L^I      The  trouble  is  I'm  looking  right  into  the  Sun. 

LMP-LT'i      Yes.     Change  these  focus  to  6  feet. 

CDR-LM      Okay,  Jack,  let's  go  over  that  thing  again.  We 
got  anything  else  to  do? 

LMP-LI^      V/ell,  you're  at  the  attitude.     We're  waiting  to 
confirm  capture,  and  then  you  flip  MODE  CONTROL, 
OFF. 

CBR-LM      Wish  the  Sun  would  get  out  of  the  way. 

07  19  2k  k6    CDR-LiM      Looking  good,  babe.     Keep  it  coming. 

CMP  Okay.     She's  looking  all  right. 

CDR-LM      Command  module  looks  just  as  good  as  the  day 
they  put  it  on  the  pad. 

CMP  And,  you  know,   so  does  Challenger,  by  gosh. 

Tou're  missing  some  of  the  pieces. 

CDR-I>'      Yes,  one  big  piece  we  left  behind. 

CMP  Yes:  right. 


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CDR-LM 
CMP 

CDR-LM 

CMP 


Ron,  I  guess  I'm  estimating  you  at.out  12  or 
15  feet. 

Yes,  that's  about  right. 

Got  my  reticle  coming  right  in  the  rendezvous 
window. 

Okay.     She  ought  to  be  coming  right  in  there. 


CDR-M      Looking  good.     You're  stable  as  a  rock. 

CDR-m      Bet  I'll  be  able  to  get  with  that.     Give  me  a 

little  warning  on  capture,  Ron,   so  I  can  go  FREE. 

CMP  Okay;  try  to. 


CDR-LM 


I  can  see  all  your  docking  latches  -  or  I  can  see 
half  of  them  now,  but  they're  all  looking  good. 


C?4P  Okay, 


CI^IP 


Coming  in  nice  and  slow;  no  probleins, 


CDR-LM  Okay,  you're  looking  good,  babe.  r  got  you  on  iny 
COAS  right  up  in  the  middle  of  the  window.  Look- 
ing good. 

07  19  28  33     CDR-LM      Looking  good. 
CMP  Okay. 

CDR-UVI      Must  be  a  couple  of  feet  away. 
CMP  About  2  or  3  feet  is  all. 

CDR-LM      Stand  by.  Jack. 

cyiP  stand  by.     Should  be  getting  about  the  same  size. 

GDR-Kvi      Looking  good  from  here,  Ron. 

CMP  Stand  by. 

ZZiE-A'C      ...  to  have  it  here. 


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CIJIP  Okay;   I  didn't  get  it.     Let  me  plus  X  it. 

CDR-LM      Okay.     You  didn't  get  it. 

CMP  Didn't  get  it.     Okay.     Might  have  been  a  little 

"bit  slow. 

CMP  Stand  by. 

07  19  31  25     CDR-LM      You  got  it!  CAPTURE! 

CMP  Barber  pole,  capture  go  FREE. 

CDR  Good.     Start  here;  we're  FREE.     All  you  needed 

was  -  - 

CMP  Okay,  we're  FREE  over  here.     Let  me  check  your 

rates.     Okay,  I'm  squared  away  with  the  rates  here. 

CDR  All  you  needed  was  a  little  more  DELTA-V. 

CMP  Yes,  a  little  more . 

CDR  That  looked  good  though,  Ron.     Very  good. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  a  good  one. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  we  have  capture. 

CMP  Okay,  you  ready   

CDR 

CMP  A  little  bit  -  Not  lined  up  here. 

CDR  What  did  you  say,  Ron? 

CKP  Well,  we're  not  quite  lined  up  here.     Kind  of 
drifted  off  a  little  bit. 

CDR  Okay;  we'll  stand  by  for  you.     Take  your  time. 

CMP  Okay.     Will  do.     Okay,  she ' s  coming  back  around. 

CDR  Take  your  time. 

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CDR  We're  still  free,  Ron. 

CKP  Yes,  I  know.  Okay. 

CMP  Yes,  when  you're  free,  you  know,  you  create  a 

little  bit  of  rates  on  the  thing,  too. 

CDR  I  know  it.     I  can  see  that.     Just  take  your  time. 

When  you're  satisfied,  go.     But  dcn't  go  until 
you're  satisfied. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  not. 

CMP  Okay,  she's  coming  back  around  now, 

CDR  Okay.     Give  me  a  call  when  you  start  to  retract. 

CMP  Okay;  will  do. 

07  19  3h  1+8    CMP  Crazy  thing. 

CDR  Say  again. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I  get  the  right  ...   and  then  it  goes 

around  the  other  way.     I  think  you're  bouncing 
around  up  there,  too,  you  know'.' 

CDR  I  know  it.     I'm  just  swinging  free. 

CMP  Yes. 

CDR 

CMP  I  think  you're  going  to  have  to  go  to  attitude  0. 

You're  bouncing  around  more  on  the  probe.     ilee , 
I '  rn  not  moving  at  all . 

CDR  Okay.  Stand  by,  Ron.  Okay? 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  Okay.  I '31  stable  now. 

CyT  Okay.  Kow  let  ne  cone  up  to  you. 


Tape  125/17 


CDR  Okay,  vhen  you're  happy,   I'll  go  free. 

CMP  Okay,   stand  by. 

CDR  Looking  good  now. 

CMP  Looking  good,  yes.     See  that's  what  we  needed. 

CMP  Okay,  she's  looking  good.     Why  don't  you  go  to 
FREE,  and  we'll  go  to  RETRACT  1. 

CDR  Okay  - 

07  19  36  53     CDR  IVIARK  it.     I'm  FREE, 

CMP  Okay,  RETRACT.     Here  you  come. 

07  19  37  03     CMP  Bang;   I  got  all  -  two  harber  poles. 

CDR  You  got  what? 

CMP  Okay.     (Laughter)     Two  grays,  I  mean. 

CDR  That's  better. 

CKP  (laughter) 

CDR  That's  better.     Okay,  sounded  good,   in  here. 

CW'  Yes,  sounded  good  in  here. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.     We're  hard  docked. 

CMP  Okay,  SECS  PYROS  -  LOGIC  is  coming  OFF. 

CC  Roger.     Understand  two  gray. 

CMP  Circuit  breaker  is  OPEN.     Two  gray;  that's  affirm. 

CC  Challenger,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  bring  up  the 
steerable  there.     PITCH  of  155;  YAW,  plus  kO . 

I^^-CP  Roger.     155  and  plus  kO. 

CC  Affirmative. 


Tape  125/18 


CDR  Say  again,  Gordy,  :i55? 

CC  A  PITCH  of  135;  and  YAW,  plus  hO . 

CMP  Okay,  Gene.     You  still  free? 

CDR  That's  affirm.     I'm  still  free. 

CMP  O^ay.     I'll  take  control  of  it. 

LMP  Oiiay,  Gordy,  there's  tne  high  gair, 

CC  America  .end  Challenger,   I'd  like  to  -  ~ 

OT  19  ho  07    Ll'IP  Hey,  Gordy,  we're  not  -  - 

^'^  -  -  I'd  like  to  take  a  minute  of  your  time  here 

to  read  the  following  stateiuent  by  the  President 
of  the  United  States  of  America.     "As  the 
Ghaa.lenger  leaves  the  surface  of  the  Moon,  we  are 
conscious  nox  of  what  we  leave  behind,  but  of 
what  lies  before  us.     The  dreams  that  draw  n-omanity 
forward  seem  always  to  be  redeemed,  if  we  believe 
in  them  strongly  enough  and  pursue  then  with  dili- 
gence and  courage.     Once  we  stood  p^-'stified  by 
the  stars;  today  we  reach  up  to  them.     We  do  this 
not  only  because  it  is  man's  destiny  to  dream  the 
impossible,  to  dare  the  impossible,   and  to  do  the  ■ 
impossible,  but  also  cecause,  in  space,  as  on 
Eai^thj  there  are  new  answers  and  new  opportiunities 
for  the  improvement  of  and  the  enlargement  of 
h^aman  existence.     This  may  be  the  last  tim.e  in  this 
centuiy  that  men  will  walk  on  the  Moon,  but  space 
exploration  will  continue,  the  benefits  of  space 
exploration  will  continue  and  there  will  be  new 
dreams  to  pursue,  based  on  what  we  have  learned. 
So  let  us  not  mistake  the  significance  or  miss 
the  majesty  of  what  we  have  witnessed.     Few  events 
have  ever  m,a.rked  so  clearly  the  passage  of  nistor;^ 
from  one  epocn  to  another.     If  we  jnaerstano  tnis"^ 
about  the  last  flight  of  Apollo,  t:ien  tr-o^y  we 
shall  have  touched  'a  many  splendored  thing. '  To 
Gene  Ceman,  Jack  Gchmitt,  and  Ron  xiivEJ-.s,  we  s.^y 
God  speed  you  safely  back  to  this  gooc.  Kartn.'' 

CDR  Gordon,  those  are  beautiful  words  by  a  great 

American  President,,     We're  very  honorea  to  receive 
themi;  we're  very  honored  to  be  able  to  serve  our 
co^'ontry  m  a  way  tnat  we  believe  ±n.     Ar.c.  we  thank 
you. 


Tape  125/19 


Thank  you  very  much,  Gordy  and  Mr.  President. 

Mr.  President,  this  is  America.     And  we  appre- 
ciate it  very  much.     Thank  you,  sir. 

Say,  Houston,  Challenger. 

Ron,  would  you  give  us  a  call,  when  the  txuinel's 
pressurized? 

Okay.     Stand  hy. 

And  also,  we'll  need  a  call  when  you  get  to 
attitude . 

Okay.     Will  do. 

■Okay,  your  DUMP  valve  is  in  AUTO? 
Yes,  sir.     I-c's  in  AUTO. 

Okay.     CABIN  FAI^S  are  ON  for  the  first  time  in 
the  flight. 

I  got  to  get  down  there  and  turn  the  tunnel  leak. 
Okay,  EMERGE]? CY  CABIN  REGS  are  OFF. 
Houston,  Challenger. 
Go  ahead.  Challenger. 

Roger.     Give  us  a  call  when  you  want  us  to  go 
through  the  coimn  configuration.     And  we're  going 
to  leave  the  cabin  fan  on  a  little  bit,  keep 
airing  out  -  filtering  the  cahln.     And  don't  let 
us  forget  it. 

Okay. 

Okay, ^Houston.  I'm  going  to  open  the  PRESSURE 
eQUAJLiZATION  VALVE  going  into  the  tunnel.  Can 
you  keep  an  eye  on  niy  cabin  pressure? 

Roger,  Ar.ierica.     Will  do. 

Okay . 


Tape  125/20 


CMP 


cc 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


CDR 


Okay,  there's  2.     DELTA-P  of  2 .     ...  closed; 
we'll  see  If  it  stays. 

America,  Houston.  Xou  need  a  PRO  to  get  the  TzIRB 
maneuver  to  Jett  attitude  started.  Over. 

Oh,  sorry.     ...  stick  again,  huh? 


Ron,  while  you're  down  there,  there's  a  couple 
switches  on  the  SIM  bay  to  check  cut  this  pan 
camera  heater.  Over. 

CMP  Sure;  go  ahead.     Just  waiting  for  the  DELTA-P  to 

stay  steady  . . . 

CC  Okay.     FM  CAI/ERA  MODS  switch  to  STANDBY.  And 

the  PAN  CAIffiRA  POWER  switch  to  POWER, 

07  19  he  26     CMP  Verify.     STAMDBY.     PAN  CAT-IERA  POWER  is  going  to 

POWER  now. 


Okay,  that's  good.     We'll  take  a  look  at  it 
awhile  and  let  you  Vjiow  when  we  want  power  off. 


CMP  Okay. 


Okay.     Looks  like  pressure  is  holding  good  there 


CC  Challenger,  Houston. 


Cabin  pressure  is  okay.  We'll  go  ahead  and  take 
her  on  down. 


CDR  Go  ahead. 


Okay,  when  you  get  ready  tc  transfer  an  OPS,  we 
want  you  to  transfer  the  ccimnander's  OPS.  Cver. 


:DR  Okay;  will  do. 


Hello,  Gordy.     Were  you  able  to  see^  the  1-anar 
surface  lift-off? 

Yes,   sir;  we  certainly  were.     It  ws.s  a  heautifu^ 
picture,  and  Captain  Video  stayed  I'ight  on  you. 
We  saw  you  up  to  about  2  minutes  into  the  burn. 
We  cou:;.d  see  the  -DluKie. 


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CDR  I'll  tell  you,   if  Challenger  hits  that  South 

Massif  and  you're  anywhere  pointing  in  the  right 
direction,  you  ought  to  have  a  spectacular  shot. 

CC  I'm  sure  of  that  because  that  camera  is  as  good 

as  any  I've  seen  in  a  -  in  a  television  studio. 

C:'4P  Okay,  I've  got  about  2  -  point  2  on  the  DELTA-P. 

And  the  eq_ualization  valve's  wide  open,  so  it 
must  be  about  right. 

07  19  50  10     CMP  Okay.     EMERGENCY  CABIN  PRESSURE  selector's  going 

to  BOTH. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  ready  to  open  the  hatch. 

CDR  Ron,  do  you  read? 

What?    Yes,  go  ahead. 
CDR  Okay. 
LMP 

CMP  Yes,  I  still  got  about  5  on  the  cabin,  I  think. 

LMP  ...  Is  the  tunnel  pressure  up? 

CMP  I  got  the  hatch  out.     Yes,   it's  pressurized. 

Lj\IP  Okay.     Just  pull  it  open  then. 

CMP  Okay 


CDR 


Okay,  Ron,  it'll  be  a  minute  or  two  before  we  open 
that  hatch.     We  got  a  little  work  to  do  in  here. 


...  egress.     LEVA  bags. 
07  19  52  50     CI-IP  (Laughter)  I  don't  know  what  it's  like. 

IMP 

CI-IP  (Laugh-er;   I  guess  it's  great.     Let  me  check  tne 

old  docking  latches. 


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LMP 
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CMP 

LMP 

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07  19  56  03  CC 

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CMP 
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LMP 


Okay. 

Okay,  I  hear  you.  And,  Houston,  every  latch  has  - 
worked,  perfectly. 

Roger. 

Okay.     Let's  get  the  probe  out  of  here. 

I  vas  just  bleeding  the  nitrogen  out  of  the  prohe . 

Roger,  Ron.     And  when  you  get  hack  in  the  cabin 
next,  we'll  take  PAN  CAMERA  POWER,  OFF. 

Okay.     The  probe's  loose  in  there. 

Sure  sounds  like  it. 

Is  there  any  hurry  on  that,  Gordo? 

What  did  you  say,  Ron? 


Houston,  this  is  America, 
on  that  pan  camera  thing? 
probe  out. 


Is  there  any  hurry 
If  not,  I'll  take  the 


Negative.  No  hurry i  we  have  plenty  of  time  here 
till  LOS  -  ik  minutes.  We  want  to  see  it  before 
then. 

Oh,  okay.     I'll  get  it  out  before  ^hen. 
Ouch. 

. . .  over  here . 

Don't  lose  those  (laughter). 
They  might  be  in  the  data  file. 


There  comes  the  old  probe. 


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CDR 

livIP 

07  19  58  in  CMP 
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CMP 
LMP 
CMP 
LMP 

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CC 


Gene . 

Okay.     The  probe  is  out. 
Roger,  Ron, 

Hay,  does  that  -  Do  you  want  the  probe  right 
away.  Jack? 

What? 

Do  you  want  the  probe  right  now? 


Okay. 


Okay,  Gordo.     PM  CAMERA  POWER  is  OFF, 


Okay,  Ron.     And  before  you  pass  the  transfer  list 
out  of  the  Flight  Plan  Supplement,  we  have  two 
small  changes  to  page  1-11. 

Okay.  Wait  1  and  I'll  get  it.  Okay,  I'm  on  1-11. 
Okay,  Ron  -  - 


No ,  that ' s  it . 


-  -  item  17.  Just  change  the  last  ^arz  of  the 
statement  "stow  on  A-1"  to  "stow  on  A-7";  and, 
on  item  19  there,  change  from  "stow  on  A-T"  to 
"stow  on  A:-l".     That's  it. 

That's  it?     Okay?    We  can  do  that,  I  think. 


Okay. 


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CC 


Hey,  hey!  Here  they  come,  by  gos:i.  hov  you 
doing?     (Laughter)  Beautiful. 


Good  show.     Boy,  is  it  cold  up  there.     It's  hot 
as  heck  down  here.     It's  stuffy. 

America,  advise  we're  reading  all  of  you  on  Ron's 
VOX. 


CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CDR  Let  me  just  douolecheck  all 


Jack,  if  your  handy  to  it,  we'll  take  the  S-band 
reconfiguration  now. 


LI^  Okay,  I'll  do  that. 

CDR 


Okay,  Houston,  how  do  you  read  on  the  aft  omni 
You ^ re  loud  and  clear.   Challenger,  on  the  aft 


1  ■? 


omni 


Here's  your  old  vacuum  cleaner  (laughter).  You 
...  lo,  it's  not  on.     Want  it  on?  (Laughter) 
Great . 

Hey,  let  me  Imow  when  you  turn  it  on;  it  cost  me 
a  .  .  .  MASTER  ALAm. 


C:>iP  Okay,  I'll  turn  it  on. 


rurn  it  on.     You  got  the  switch. 


CI*IP  Okay, 


America  and  Challenger,  both  vehicles  rr.ay  get  a 
program  alarm  on  the  computers  due  to  the  W-niatrix 
overflowing.     A  VERB  93  will  fix  i-;  in  both  cases. 


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07  20  03  h8    CMP  Oh,  okay.     Should  we  Just  do  a  VERB  93  now  for 

the  heck  of  it  anyhow? 

CC  That's  affiraative.     VERB  93  on  both  spacecraft. 

CMP  Okay,  I  got  rny  - 

LI4P  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  on  the  steerable,  and  I'll 

start  tweaking  to  the  best  signal  strength  I 
can  get. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

CC  Jack,  we  think  you've  got  the  steerable  up  as 

good  as  it's  going  to  get. 

LMP  I  think  you're  right. 

07  20  06  h2     LMP  Okay,  and  I  verify  I  am  in  SLEW  and  not  in  AUTO. 

CC  Okay;  thank  you. 

CMP  Yes,  are  you  going  to  leave  us?     Oh,  okay;  I  got 

it.  Okay?  Okay,  I'll  get  ...  take  care  of  this. 
Man,  you  guys  got  a  lot  of  dirt  up  there. 

LMP  It's  clean  now. 

CMP  Oh.  (Laughter) 

CMP  One  OPS,  stowed. 

CC  Challenger  and  America,  about  2  minutes  to  LOS 

now,  and  both  spacecraft  are  looking  good. 

LMP  Roger,  Gordy;  thank  you.     We'll  see  you  coming 

around. 

CiMP  Okay,  Houston,  this  is  America,  and  we'll  see 

you  around  there. 

CC  Okeydoke.  Adlos. 

CMP  Hey,  Jack,  you  want  a  Jettison  bag? 

L;^P  ilot  yet. 


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CMP  Okay.     Let  me  know  when  you  want  j.t. 

LMP  Not  yet. 

07  20  09  38    CMP  Okay. 

07  20  30  XX  BEGIN  LUHAR  REV  53 

END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  126/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

07  20  5^+  ^8    CDR  Ron? 

LMP  Yes. 

CDR  Got  a  good  ISA  bag  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  —  and  stow  on  top  of  A-2 

LMP  Darned  if  I  know  (laughter).     I've  been  sleeping 
floating  around  in  the  tunnel. 

07  20  55  06     CC  America,  Houston.     We  hear  you  talking. 

IMP  Hey,  okay,  Houston. 

07  20  55  l6    LMP  Hello,  Houston;  Challenger's  up  also. 

CC  Okay,  Challenger.     Keeping  busy  up  there? 

07  20  55  23    CDR  Yes  sir,  Gordo.     I  think  we're  moving  right 

along  with  the  -  with  the  transfer  and  stowage. 
And  we'll  give  you  a  hack  here.     We  got  the  ISA 
bag  over  for  A-2.     We  got  the  -  two  of  the  sample 
return  bags  stowed  and  a  DECON  bag,  and  they're 
over  and  a  lot  of  miscellaneous  stuff. 

CDR  Jack? 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  It's  my  page,  probably,  yes. 

CDR  Jack,  is  that  - 


CMP 


IMP 


...  did  it  come  loose,  there?  Yes,  iri.y  whole  bo.iK 
came  loose. 

You  got  something  on  your  -  - 


CMP  (Laughter) 


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IMP  -  -  ... 

CMP  Thank  you.     I'm  checking  some  of  this  s-uff  of". 

Yes. 

IMP  Okay . 

CMP  That  was  a  good  one. 

LMP  I  didn't  like  that  ... 

07  20  58  07    CMP  Okay..   Are  you  going  to  put  the  Buddy  SLSS  in 

the  DECON  bag  and  stow  it  on  A-1? 

LMP  Yes.    That's  in  there  now. 

CMP  Okay.  -  Okay,  the  ISA  has  got  the  -  (Sneeze) 

LMP  You  just  took  the  ISA  hag,  -  the  hig  ... 

CMP  Okay,  but  it  had  a  lens  brush,  l6-ir.illimeter  mag;-, 

three  of  them? 

CDR  No,  we  can't  have  ...  like  that. 

CMP  Okay,  so  I  got  those  in  -  - 

CDR  The  lens  brush  is  there  . . . 

CMP  Okay,  those  -  those  l6-millimeter  nags  are  in  E-I5. 

Yes.     Extra  sample  collection  bags?     You  got  two 
of  those  in  there?    In  the  I  -  in  the  ISA? 

IMF  I  need  another  - 

CDR  Yes,  there's  two  collec   

CMP  Okay. 

LMP  I  need  another  decontamination  baR. 

CMP  Got  one  for  the  -  that's  got  a  metal  plate  in  Lz 

somewhere. 

CDR  That's  it  right  there.     That's  got  a  me-ca^  plate. 

CKP  Yes,  that  goes  in  the  PGA  bag,  I  think. 


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CDR  Huh? 

CMP  That  goes  in  the  PGA  bag. 

CDR  Yes. 

CMP  (La\:ighter)     I  don't  know.     I  had  a  pretty  nice 

little  home  here  by  myself. 

CDR  You  got  any  more  bags  or  what? 

CMP  I'm  out  of  bags,  I  think. 

CDR  . . .  what  are  you  going  down  there?  . . . 

CMP  Yes. 

CDR  . . .  bags  . . . 

CMP  Yes. 

CDR  We've  got  to  tie  that  ... 

CMP  I'd  -  I  don't  even  know  what's  going  on  in  the 
Flight  Plan.     Let's  see. 

CDR  This. 

CMP  This,  I  think.     Isn't  it? 

07  21  00  11    CMP  Yes.     What  time  is  it?     Let's  see,  191:1^0.  Let 

me  check.     One  hour  from  now. 

LMP  . . .  What? 

CMP  One  houir  from  now. 

L^^P  Ko,  no.     We  have  two  revs. 

CMP  At  1  hour  from  now,  it's  supposed  to  be  -  Okay? 

Okay,  let  me  get  some  out. 

CDR  Let  me  work  with  this   ...  Jack. 

CMP  Guess  it  doesn't  make  any  difference  wnicn  one 

goes  where,  does  it? 

CDR  Hey,  Jack   


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IMP  Hey,  Gene. 

CDR  Yes . 

CMP  You're  tangled  up  in  the  vacuum  cleaner  cable. 

07  21  01  27     CC  America,  Houston.     Weheard  you  talking  about  the 

time  there.     As  near  as  ve  can  tell,  you're  right 
on  the  timeline. 

CMP  Right  on  the  timeline,  huh?    Aren't  we  supposed  zo 

be  closed  out  in  about  an  hour? 

CC  Well,  let's  see   

CMP  That  right?     Or  not? 

07  21  02  22    CC  Ron,  it's  about  an  hour  and  a  half  until  you're 

supposed  to  close  up  the  IM  hatch. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     An  hour  and  a  half  yet.     Yes,  we  should 

get  it  by  then,  I  hope. 

CMP  Hey,  Gene.     Do  those  SRCs  have  numbers  on  them,  or 

weights,. or  anything  like  that? 

CDR  Both  weigh  the  same  . . . 

CMP  Both  weigh  the  same? 

CDR  Yes.  Almost. 

CMP  Okay.     Won't  make  any  difference  where  I  put  ther. 

then. 

CDR  No. 

CMP  Yes.     Okay.  Switch. 

CMP  Oh,  that's  all  right.  Yes. 

CMP  Well,  it's  serial  number  IOO7.     It';;  in  tne  r,-G 

rockbox  area.  I  don't  know  how  you  tell  whici  one': 
the  number,  which  number's  what. 

CMP  Just  a  second,  I  can't  get  the  othei'  one  closec. 

No.     I  -  I  don't  mean  that  one.     I  near,  the  B-5 
rockbox. 


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CDR  Okay.     That's  good   

CDR  I  have  to  think  about  it.    They  are  in  the  ISA,  I 
should  say.     Did  you  wajit  the  ...? 

CMP  Oops,  I  got  the  B-6  back  again  (laughter). 

CDR  You  ready  for  a  . . . ? 

CMP  Yes,  I'll  take  it.     Okay  - 

CDR  ...  on  the  back  side  of  ... 

CMP  There's  a  neat  way  to  pass  things  back  and  forth. 
Okay.     That's  all  right,  we'll  keep  -  - 

MP  Don't  have  room  for  it  down  here  yet. 

CMP  Okay. 

LMP  How's  the  rockboxes  ...? 

CMP  Let  me  look. 

I>IP  I '  ve  got  one ,  but  .  .  . 

a»IP  No . 

07  21  06  hi    CMP  Have  you  guys  still  got  your  PGA  pockets  on? 

LMP  No,  we  threw  them  away. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

S  C  »  • » 

CMP  You  didn't  want  any  of  the  stuff  that's  in  them? 

SC  So ,  we  ... 

CI4P  Oh  (laughter). 

07  21  08  33    Cl^P  You  guys  you  got  any  -  sample  bags  you  can  put  in 

A-9? 

liT^P  Say  again. 

CMP  You  got  a  sample  bag  for  me  to  put  in  A-94 


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IMP 
CMP 
IMP 
CMP 
IMP 
CMP 
IMP 
CMP 
IMP 
CMP 

mF 

07  21  11  33  CMP 

LMP 
CMP 

SC 

CMF' 

IMP 

07  21  12  l6  CMP 
CMP 


No. 

You  don't. 

Oh,  wait  a  minute. 

Okay. 

Do  you  have  a  bag  for  it? 
No,  I  just  got  an  empty  box. 
Oh ,  okay . 

No,  it  just  goes  in  a  lithium  hydroxide  canister. 
Okay. 

You  want  the  canister?  It's  easier  to  Just  put  the 
bag  in  the  -  in  the  thing  over  here.     I  think. 

Okay.     I'll  send  it  over. 

What's  that?    That's  okay.     That's  all  right,  I'll, 
get  it   (laughter).     Doesn't  look  like  it's  going  to 
fit. 

It  may  not.  You  may  have  to  ...  put  one  in  the  . . . 
Yes,  it's  number  7,  huh?    Well,  maybe  it  will  fit. 


Oh,  it  fits! 


Sample  bag  number  J  is  in  A-9. 

You  know,  from  the  looks  of  this  dirt,  no  wonder 
it  looks  dark  down  there  at  that  landing  t;ito.     }io , 
we're  going  to  keep  them  all.     We'rs  takin,-;^  -.hen. 
back. 


IMP 
CKP 


Okay. 


What  do  you  mean?    Unused  ones? 


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LMP  I  don't  know  what  this  is  all  about.  I  - 

07  21  13  10    CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Have  you  found  the  -  waist  tethers  yet? 

LMP  Yes.     I  got  them  -  for  you. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Yes,  it's  right  here  in  the  tunnel. 

CC  Hey,  do  we  need  any  toothpaste  up  there? 

CMP  Yes,  this  one's  about  three-quarters  gone,  or  half 

gone.     Oh,  okay.  Here 

IMP  Hey,  Ron,   . . .  that? 

CMP  Ah. 

LMP  What? 

QIP  We  can  probably  always  use  that,  you  know. 

LMP  Okay,  I'll  send  it  over  to  ... 

CMP  Yes. 

07  21  15  1+8    CMP  Hey,  Houston.     How  was  the  quality  of  America's  TV 

camera?     That's  the  first  time  -  first  chance  we 
had  to  use  it  on  this  flight. 

07  21  15  56    CC  I  don't  think  it  could  have  been  any  better.  We 

had  a  real  nice  picture. 

07  21  16  03     CMP  Hey,  okay.  Good. 

SC  Wo.     It's  in  the  . . . 

CMP  Okay.     Forget  it. 

C^JIP  Never  did  find  that  one  set  that  you  were  talk  .in// 

about . 

SC 


Tape  126/8 


07  21  16  52    CMP  Send  the  tape  over  here.     You  want  it? 

SC 

CMP  Yes. 

SC  Here's  your  - 

CMP  Okay. 

07  21  20  00    CMP  Okay,  coming  up. 

CDR  I  found  a  med  kit.     Did  you  say  .. .? 

CMP  No,  we  -  we  only  have  about  six  more  sleeping 

pills  left,  or  seven,  or  something.     I  don't  know. 

LMP  How  many  more  nights  are  you  going  to  sleep? 

CMP  Well,  I  like  to  -  sleep  about  one  more,  probably. 

LMP  Empty  your  jettison  bag  if  you  could  get  ... 

CDR  That  would  get  me  out  of  the  way. 

CMP  Okay,  Just  a  second.  Okay. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

LMP  How  about  the  jettison  bag? 

CMP  You  want  it? 

LMP  Yes. 

CMP  One  jett  bag.     Oops  -  Oh,  the  big  one.     You  got  to 
have  a  bigger  hole  than  this  to  get  it  through. 

IMP  Okay.     Let's  wait  for  Gene,  then. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

07  21  22  01     LMP  Okay,  Houston,  this  is  Challenger.     I  think  we're 

getting  close  to  being  able  to  take  your  up-link. 

07  21  22  07     CC  Okay,  Challenger.     We're  ready  when  you  are. 


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07  21  22  15     IMP  Okay.     You've  got  POO  and  DATA. 

07  21  22  18    CC  Okay,  and  I've  also  got  the  pads  ... 

CMP  Is  that  the  took  that's  down  here  in  R-2? 

LMP  Yes . 

CMP  I  don't  think  I  will  ever  find  it  in  here. 

CDR  You'll  never  find  it  in  there,  Ron;  I  Just  stuck  .. 

CMP  What  does  it  look  -  Is  it  a  small  book  or  what? 

LMP  Some  P30  pads  and  stuff. 

07  21  23  00    LMP  Hey,  Gordy.     It  looks  like  we've  gotten  -  - 

CDR  Get  one  from  the  command  - 

Li^P  —  We've  got  our  Data  Card  Book  

CAF  What  do  you  need?    A  P30  pad? 

(MP  -  -  stowed  away.     Can  you  read  each  of  the  items, 
and  I'll  copy  down  the  pad  that  way? 

Hey,  wait  a  minute  and  I'll  tear  you  one  out  of 
here.  Jack. 

Sure  enough.  Jack.     No  problem.     It's  not  that 
complicated  anyway. 

That's  right,  this  is  an  easy  one.     Go  ahead. 

07  21  23  2k    CC  Okay.     It's  a  LM  deorbit  pad,  and  NOUK  33  or  T. 

is  195:38:13.00;  UOUK  8I :     X  is  a  minus  022)^.6^^ 
Y  is  a  plus  0056.9,  and  Z  is  a  plus  OI67.7;  the 
apogee  and  perigee  are  NA,  perigee  is  goinR  to  be 
minus;  and  DELTA  -  VR  is  0286.0;  burn  time  will  be 
1:58;  and  the  FDAI  attitude  -  for  what  it's  worth  - 
here  is  0^+8,  I3B,  and  075-     Go  ahead. 

LKP  Okay,  here's  the  deorbit  pad.     T      195-38-13  00- 

ig  ' 
DE^TA-VH's  are  X,  minus  022k. 6;  Y  is  plus  OO56.9, 
Z  is  plus  0167.7. 


CMP 


CC 


IMP 


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CDR  Ron. 
CMP  Yes. 

CDR 

LMP  Total  DELTA-V  is  0286.0;  burn  time  is  1:58;  and 

FDAI  angles  0U8 ,  I38,  075- 

CC  Okay,  that's  all  correct. 

IMP  Okay,  Gordy. 

CC  And  you'll  need  a  IM  weight  for  the  DAP;  if  you 

vant  to  write  that  one  down,  it's  |)l85. 

IMP  Okay,  5185  is  the  IM  weight. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  I  never  did  get  the  purse  hack  over  here  yet. 

CDR  It's  in  here.     You  don't  need  it. 

CMP  Okay.     Okay.     Yes,  will  do.  Yes. 

SC 

CMP  I  think  that's  all  the  stuff  -  think  that's  all 

the  junk. 

07  21  28  02    CMP  Well,  the  -  you  know,  we  have  more  than  enough  to 

eat  every  day  -  the  only  food  that's  left  is  the  - 
you  know,  the  food  that's  to  come  up. 

CDR  You  got  yellow  pills? 

CMP  Yes.     We  got  more  yellow  pills  than  we  know  what 

to  do  with. 

CDR  You  do?  Okay. 

CMP  But  that  food  that  we  didn't  eat,  it's  gone. 

CDR  What  did  you  do  with  it? 

CI4P  It's  in  that  hig  hag. 

CDR  Okay . 


Tape  126/11 

CMP  (Laughing)  Well   

CDR  They  must  consider  that  you  are  the  judge  of  that. 

OT  21  29  5^     CMP  Okay,  Jack,  you  still  got  your  helmet  over  there, 

right? 

LMP  Yes . 

CMP  Okay,  "because  I've  only  got  tvo  helmets  here. 

07  21  30  37    CMP  Okay.     You  guys  say  you  got  the  LCG  plugs  with 

you,  huh? 

mp/CDR  Yes. 

CMP  Okay.     I  want  to  make  sure  you  got  those.  Okay. 

07  21  31  Ok    CC  Challenger,  Houston.     It's  your  computer,  now. 

CMP  How  ahout  the  monocular? 

IMP  Yes.     I've  got  it  in  my  pocket. 

a^P  Okay.     It's  in  your  pocket. 

07  21  31  32    CDR  You  got  that? 

07  -21  33  36    CMP  You  need  that? 

CDR  What  is  it? 

CMP  Just  a  big  hag. 

CDR  No,  I  don't  need  it  . . . 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Tape?  Okay, 

07  21  33  22     CDR  Okay. 

07  21  36  07    CMP  Well,  if  you  br  -  if  that's  a  good  one;  you  just 

need  one. 

CDR  It's  a  good  one. 

CMP  Okay. 


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07  21  36  ho    CMP  Houston,  America. 

07  21  36  kh    CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Is  it  a  mag  Dog  Dog  for  JM  jett  on  the  l6-millimeter? 

07  21  36  56    CC  I'll  check  that.     One  other  thing.     We'd  like 

Tank  1  FAN,  ON  now  to  start  getting  it  set  iip  for 
the  sleep  period. 

CMP  Okay.     Just  a  second  here.     I'm  stuck,  can't  get 

this  -  (laughter).     Oh,  Mr.  Clean.     You  guys  are 
sc  dirty.     I'm  going  to  make  you  sleep  in  the 
tunnel.     Let's  see.  - 

CC  Tank  1,  FAN. 

CMP  Which  tank?    Tank  1? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Tank  1  FAU. 

CICP  Okay.     To  ON? 

CC  That's  right.  ON. 

07  21  37  i+7    CMP  Okay.  Tank  1  FAN  is  ON. 

CC  And  we've  got  a  vector  for  you,  if  you  want  to  give 

us  ACCEPT. 

07  21  37  58    CMP  Okay.     The  old  CMC  -  let  me  get  a  big  hatch  riglil, 

there  in  the  middle  of  things.     Let's  see.  There 
it  is.     Okay,  you've  got  ACCEPT. 

07  21  38  16    CC  Roger. 

07  21  39  39    CMP  Yes,  you  guys  keep  the  bag  up  there.     And  I  get 

the  -  I  get  the  rest  of  it. 

IMF  We  keep  the  bag? 

CMP  Yes. 

07  21  39  50    CC  Ron,  Houston.     The  answer  to  your  c^uestion  is  yes. 

Mag  Delta  Delta  is  the  one. 


CMP 


Delta  Delta.  Okay. 


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07  21  1+0  06  CC 
CMP 

07  21  1+0  27  CMP 

CDR 
CMP 

CDR 

07  21  1+1  11  CC 
07  21  1+1  23  CMP 
07  21  1+1  53  CC 

07  21  1+2  08  CMP 
CC 
CMP 

07  21  1+2  20  CC 
07  21  1+2  51+  CMP 

07  21  1+3  18-  CC 
CMP 
CMP 

07  21  1+9  01  LMP 


And,  it's  yoior  computer,  Ron. 

...  Thank  you.     Get  in  there  in  a  minute.  Let's 
see. 

Okay?  Apparently,  you're  stuck  on  something.  Okay. 
Got  it. 


Okay,  I  got  it.     You  want  the  tape?    The  tape. 
Gene  wants  the  tape. 

Yes.     I'll  need  it. 

Ron,  Houston.  If  Delta  Delta  is  more  than  50  percent 
finished,  then  use  Charlie  Charlie. 

Okay.     I  don't  think  I've  used  Delta  Delta,  have  I? 
I'll  have  to  look  at  it  and  see. 

Ron,  one  other  thing  to  bug  you;  we'd  like  you  to 
do  the  VERB  1+8  load  as  shown  in  the  Flight  Plan. 
It'll  collapse  the  dead  band  so  we  can  check  and 
meike  sure  the  LM  steerable  is  right  on  the  money. 

You  wetnt  to  do  that  now? 

That ' s  af f i  rmat  i ve . 

Okay,  why  don't  you  read  it  to  me,  Gordo?  And 
I'll     get  it,  in  the  LEB  DSKY  down  here. 

Okay,  it's  a  VERB  1+8,  R-1,  you  want  61IOI. 

Okay,  Houston;  this  is  America.     That  should  have 
collapsed  It  there. 

Okay,  Ron.     That  caught  what  we  wanted. 
Okay. 

Yes.     The  jettison  suited.     Okay,  Houston,  ma^ 
Delta  Delta  looks  like  it's  full.     I  was  just 
going  over  the  list  of  stuff  here  I've  got.  Anc 
I  think  you've  got  everything. 

Okay,  Houston,  I  guess  we're  GO  or  KO/GO  for  your 
LM  closeout. 


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CC  Okay,  stand  by  1  on  that. 

07  21  i+9  57    CMP  Yes,  we're  in  a  jettison  attitude  now. 

07  21  50  07     CC  Challenger,  you're  GO  for  closeout . 

CDR  Okay,  we're  proceeding  then. 

07  21  50  36     CMP  Ko,  I'm  NAERGW  DEADBAKD  now. 

CDR  .        MIU  DEADBAND  ATT  HOLD. 

07  21  50  1+0    CMP  That's  right.     MIN  DEADBAND  ATT  HOLD. 

CDR  GUIDANCE  CONTROL,  PONS. 

07  21  51  00    CDR  AGS  MODE  CONTROL,  ATT  HOLD. 

07  21  51  17    CDR  ...  OFF  and  RECEIVER,  ON. 

07  21  52  Id    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  Challenger. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Challenger. 

CDR  Gordo?     How  soon  is  AOS? 

CC  Okay,  LOS  is  16-1/2  minutes. 

CDR  That's  what  I  meant  -  LOS.     Thank  you. 

CC  America,  Houston.     I  have  a  couple  updates  to  go 
in  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Yes? 

CDR  Did  you  hear  it? 

CMP  VThat's  that? 

CDR  They  have  an  update  for  . . . 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CMP  Houston,  I'm  ready  for  the  Flight  Flan  update. 

CC  Okay,  what  iz  is,  is  the  CSM  and  Lf^  weights  for  the 
DAP  at  192:10. 


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CMP  Olcay;  go. 

CC  The  CSM  weight  with  three  men,  assuming  you're  going 

to  have  three  men  from  here  on  out,  is  365^5 
(laughter).     And  the  LM  weight  is  5l85.     And  ycu 
might  jot  down  a  couple  trims  for  three  men  aboard. 
Pitch  trim  will  "be  plus  O.60  and  yaw  plus  0.8l. 

CMP  Okay,  CSM  weight  is  365^*5,  LM  weight  is  5185, 

pitch  is  plus  0.60,  yaw  is  plus  O.8I, 

CC  Okay,  that's  a  good  readhack.     The  LM  Jettison 

numbers  are  nominal  as  shown  down  the  LM  jettison 

time  for  T.     and  attitudes, 
ig 

CMP  Okay,  wait  a  minute. 

CC  I  realize  there  is  no  . . . 

CMP  19^:03:30. 

CC  Okay.     That's  right  for  CSM  sep ,  and  the  LM  jettison 

time  is  on  a  page  before  there,  193:58:30. 

CMP  Okay. 

07  21  56  32    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     Challenger  is  going  off  the  air. 

CC  Okay,  Challenger.     It's  been  a  pleasure  talking 

to  you  the  last  few  days. 

07  21  56  52    CDR  It  seems  like  an  unfitting  finish  to  a  super  bird, 

but  it's  got     one  more  job  to  do. 

CC  Roger  that. 

LMP  Take  care,  Gordy ,  and  thank  you. 

CC  Sounds  like  you're  planning  to  stay  there. 

07  21  57  18    L^^P  (Laughter) 


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Tape  127/1 


APOLLO  IT  air-to-grouhd  voice  TRMSGRIPTION 

CT  21  57  17    CC  Steady  there. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I  speak  for  the  Challenger. 

Say, ^ one  final  thing.     And  sometime  in  the  next 
30  minu-ces,  Parker  will  be  coming  on  to  take  over 
here  and,  just  for  your  information,  today  is  his 
birthday, 

CMP  Ah-ha.     Okay,  thank  you  much. 

07  22  00  00    CMP  Yes,  I  can  just  barely  hear  you. 

SC  I  need  the  hose.     I  need  ... 

CMP  Want  a  hose,  yes.     What,  the  suit  hose? 

SC  Yes . 


CMP 


CJ'EP 


CMP 


Well,  I  vas  thinking  of  comm.     That's  Jack's. 


SC  ...  one  here . 


Okay.  There  you  go.  Let  me  put  the  -  ...  connect 
on .     Yes . 


07  22  01  09    CMP  Think  we  ought  to  put  this  thing  on  there. 

07  22  07  1      CC  Okay,  America.     You're  about  2  minutes  from  LOS 

and  everything's  looking  fine  right  now. 


Okay,  it  looks  like  the  majority  of  the  stuff  is 
completed,  so  ve  should  see  you,  ready  to  go,  on 
the  other  side. 


CC  Okeydoke . 

07  22  29  XX  BEGIH  LIMAR  REV  5I+ 

07  22  55  03     CN'P  Okay.     DIRECT  0^  is  OFF.     The  other  aay,  mine  wo„t 

up  -co  No,  it  just  goes  that  high;  doesn't 

make  any  difference  what  you  do. 


Tape  127/2 


CDR'  I  am,  too, 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 

CC 
CMP 


CMP 

LMP 

CMP 


So  am  I,  right  now.  No,  not  yet.  We  got  to  waiL 
until  the  0^  flow  stops.     Yes,  it'll  increase  or. 

up  to  -  should  he  h.l  to  Well,  she's  still 

going  up.     I'm  reading  li.2  on  the  cuff  gage. 


:dr  h.l. 


Well,  we'll  go  on  up  to  ahout  ...  Well,  there's 
the  total  suits . 


CDR            Yes,  it's  got  8  -  ...  9, 
CMP  8.9? 
CDR   0. 


Yes,  it  ought  to  stable  off  there.  It's  to  about 
k.3  -  h.h  on  mine  now.  Houston,  America.  How  go 
you  read? 


CC  Loud  and  clear,  America. 


Okay,  we're  in  the  old  suit  circui-;  integritv 
check  at  the  present  time. 

Roger,  we're  copying  you  live. 

Okay,  DIRECT  0^  is  coming  down  now  ,  I  mean  the  tV, . 
Okay,         flow's  coming  down. 

07  22  5h  28     CDR  And,  Houston,  the  tunnel's  closed  out.     We '  r.. 

at  TUNNEL  VEKT,  and  the  h,atch  integrity  i-. 


CC  Okay,  we  copy  that. 


And  0^  flow's  down  to  0.5,  now.     Yes,  that's  rignt , 

The  -  the  suit  integrity  check  will  pump  you  up 
that  high. 

It's  a  -  it  regulates  through  the  I-e^ta  over  cahin. 

Yes.  Yes,  maybe  she  might  make  it  down  ^o  O.l. 
Yes,  it's  going  down.  Well,  iz  mes,ns  you  g-ays ' 
suits  are  still  on  tight. 


Tape  127/3 


CDR  What  do  you  nean?     There's  so  much  dust  in  the 

joint,  they  couldn't  be  anything  else  but  tight. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

LMP  They're  tighter  than  they  were  when  we  started. 

CMP  Oh,  yes? 

LMP  But  that  lubing  is  just  so  it  collects  dust  to 

make  them  tight. 

CMP  Uh-huh. 

CMP  Well,  1  was  down  to  O.U,  now  it's  up  to  about  0-5, 

0.1+  and  a  half.     All  we  need  is  less  than  0.8. 
Well,  I  hadn't  been  timing  it.     I  guess  it's 
about  30  seconds,  though. 

LMP  Oh,  yes .  ... 

CMP  Yes,  I'm  happy;  let's  go  to  DEPRESS.     ...  Don't, 

go  to  OF?,  yet. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  There  we  go  -  DEPRESS . 

GC  And,  America,  Houston's  also  happy  with  what  we 

see  down  here. 

CMP  Yes,  it  looks  like  you've  been  staying  around  -  - 

CMP  Okay.     Speaking  of  happy  -  Happy  birthday. 

CC  Thank  you,  Ron.     Found  out  you  guys  plan  far  ahead. 

CMP-  ...  Parker  ...  (Laughter) 

LMP  i»/hat  was  that? 

CDR  Bob,  we'll  -  we'll  drop  Challenger  right  on  the 

South  Massif  for  you  -  for  your  birthday  present. 

CC  Thank  you.  Gene. 

07  22  56  hd     CMP  Okay.     LM  POWER'S  OFF. 


Tape  127/1+ 


LMP 
CMP 


:mp 


CMP 


CC 
CMP 


CC 


CDR 


n 


IMP 


Are  you  going  to  let  the  suit  down  or  what 
It's  going  down.     It's  going  down  slowly. 


LMP  Yes,  it  is. 


We'll  take  it  down  real  fast  if  you  want  tc ,  but 
that's  kind  of  hard  on  my  ears.     Okay,  SECS  PYPO 
ARM  circuit  breakers  -  I  wonder  if  I  can  reach 
those.     Yes.     There's  BAT  A  and  BAT  B  are  in. 

And,  Houston,  America.     I  guess  we're  ready  fov- 
LOGIC  ARM  if  you  are. 


Roger.     We're  ready  to  watch. 
SECS  LOGIC.     Okay.     Here  goes  LOGIC  1  - 
07  22  57  27     CMP  MARK  it.     And  LOGIC  2  - 

07  22  57  29    CMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Okay,  America.     You're  GO  for  PYRO  ARM. 

CMP  Okay.     We  -  we'll  wait  awhile  to  do  that.  We're 

actually  a  little  ahead  of  time. 

CC  Okay.     And,  America,  can  you  report  -  - 

CDR  Houston,  how  does  Challenger   

CC    LM/CM  DELTA-P? 

CDR  -  -  look  to  you? 


Okay,  Challenger  looks  good,  but  we'd  like  the 
LM/CM  DELTA-P. 

That's  affirm.     I  -  I 'm  seeing  DELTA-P  ir>  on' 
scale  high,  and  I'm  on  about  the  -j.ixtYi  minuL^-  uf 
rny  10-minute  tunnel  vent,  following  3-5  DEL'iA-i'. 


CC  Ckay,  copy  that, 


Yes,  it  does;  doesn't  it?  (Laughter) 


LMP  That's  right. 


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CMP  Yours  come  down  faster  than  mine? 

LMP  Oh,  you  opened  the  old  suit  circuit  relief.  We're 

tough,  though,  us  guys  that  go  to  the  lunar  surface. 

CMP  Yes,  yes.     You  guys  got  to  be  tough. 

LMP  Yes.  (Laughter) 

CMP  We  got  a  tough  position  here  too,  you  know,  if 

you  want  to  try  it.    Just  go  to  off. 

LMP  Bet  you  life  you  do. 

CMP  Okay , 

LMP  I  imagine  they  had  you  humping. 

CMP  Yes,  a  little  hit. 

LMP  Now  we're  hack  to  screw  up  your  routine. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right,  you  know. 

CDR  Don't  let  us  bother  you,  Ron.     You  Just  go  about 

and  do  whatever  you  want  to  do.     We'll  just  get 
clean  for  the  next  3  days. 

CMP  Okay . 

LriP  Oh,  we  -  we're  down  to  7  now. 

CMP  Lower  limit.    You  know,  I  can't  even  see  my  ELMS 

for  that  Sun  shining  in  here.     That'd  be  a  great 
LM  jett  attison  [sic]. 

CDR  Ron's  ears  apparently  are  bothering  him  is  the 

only  thing  I  can  decide. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Oh,  we're  about  down,  aren't  we? 

07  23  00  18     CDR  Couple  of  more  pounds  and  we'll  be  there. 

Ctff"  Couple  more  pounds?  Okay. 

07  23  00  20     CMP  Tmnel  light  are  off. 


Tape  127/6 


07  23  00         LMP  We  didn't  hurt  this  end  of  the  LM  much. 

CMP  Yes,  it  looks  real  good.     I  got  some  pictures  of 

the  bottom  of  it,  too,  I  think.    Vlien  you  mys 
were  going  around  there.     And  that   looks  real  nice 


LMP 


CMP 


CMP 


:mp 


Well,  you  alvays  were  a  bottom  mar 


CMP  Okay,  let's  see. 

07  23  01  59     CMP  Okay,  suit  circuit  integrity  check.     We've  alre.-xdy 

done  that.  Okay,  I'm  loading  the  EMS  to  plus  lOo' 
and  making  a  null  bias  check  right  now. 

07  23  02  51     CDR  Okay,  Houston.     I've  been  in  TUNNEL  VEMT  now  for 

about  11  minutes  after  3.5  on  the  DELTA-P,  and 
I'm  going  TUKIffil  VENT  valve  to  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that.  Gene. 

07  23  03  16     CMP  Houston,  the  null  bias  check,  I've  got  nlus  10 3. o, 

starting  out  at  100,  in  1  minute  and        seconds.'  ' 

OC  Okay,  we  copy. 


CMP 


(Laughter)     You  all  done?     You'll  have  to  stay 
inside.     Okay,  align  the  old  GDC;  I  just  die  that 
awhile  ago.     ...  done  again.  Good. 


CMP  In  the  LM?     ...  in  there. 


Okay,  we're  right  down  here  now,  and  I  can't  isee 
that  very  well.     Can  you  -  do  you  xrant  to  read  r.h: 
read  the  checklist? 

Okay,  uncage  the  BMAGs .     RATE  to  LOW;  DEA2'  5AIO, 
MIN.     Okay,  wait  a  minute.     We  won't  do  that  as' 
late  as  1+5.    Let's  see.     Okay,  might  as  well,  I 
guess.     Okay.     And  SCS.     Oh,  I  don't  use  t.hat 
anyhow,  really.     That's  just  -  well,  I  really 
CLon't  use  that  this  time,  anyhow.     TRAUS  CONTROL 
POWER  is  ON. 

Okay.     I  don't  either.     You're  looking  ri-ht  in-.o 
the  Sun.     We're  looking  right  into  the  Sun  so  we 
won't  be  able  to  see  it.     Okay.     Yes,  I  got  ^hi- 
one  going  over  here,  but  -  it  might  i^till  nave 
something. 


Tape  127 /T 


liMP  Twelve  frames  a  second. 

CMP  DIRECTS,  MAIN  A,  MAIN  B.     Well,  I'll  wait  awhile 

on  arming  those. 

CMP  Let's  see,  we  ought  to  go   ...  the  old  SUIT  TEST 

valve  to  OFF  now,  okay? 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  That's  both  of  them.     That's  both  the  ascent  stage 

and  the  -  Yes,  we'll  change  that,  too.     0  ,  okay. 
That's  good.  2 

CDR  B/D  roll. 

CMP  Yes;  okay. 

CMP  Everything's  going  to  be  P30  and,  boy,  we  get 

out  of  here ,    Turn  the  page  over  there  and  then 
you  can  see  what  the  -  See,  we'll  do  the  jettison 
bvirn  and  then  we'll  VERB  1+9  tc  a  new  attitude  so 
we  don't  zap  the  hot  exhaust  into  the  SIM  bay. 
And  then  we'll  do  a  Phi  for  separation,  see?  At 
that  new  attitude.     That's  all  over  there  in  this 
thing.     So,  we'll  do  all  that  as  soon  as  we 
separate,  then  we'll  go  into  the  preseparation  - 
or  as  soon  as  we  jettison,  we'll  go  right  to  the 
pre-SEP  checklist. 

07  23  08  1+1     CMP  About  10  minutes  to  SEP  -  I  mean  to  jett.  Ten 

minutes  to  jettison. 

CMP  Oh,  that's  all  right  -  It  won't  work  anyhow,  se(>-: 

So  - 

07  23  10  23     CMP  Okay,  plus  110.00,  ENTER.     Plus  7.000,  huh? 

Plus  3I+9.     Okay,  that's  the  NOUN  22s  for  the 
VERB  1+9. 

CMP  Yes.     Got  am  controllers  in,  that's  all.  We'll 

use  this  for  time,  jett  effect  [?]  55. 

CMP  Yes . 

IMP  Okay . 


Tape  127/8 


07  23  11  57    CMP  Those  two,  but  not  the  ones  next  to  th 


emj  here. 


07  23  li+  21     CMP  Okay,  PYROS  are  coming  ON.     There's  A  and  B.  .^r.d 

all  breakers  are  IN. 

CC  Okay,  America,  we  see  the  PYROS  AR^ffiD.     Looks  gcod. 

(MP  Okay . 

CMP  Get  the  -  1|7?  Okay. 

CMP  (Humming) 

CMP 

CMP  Yes,  must  he.     193  hours.     I  don't  know  what  day 

this  is,  really.     Okay,  I  can  go  into  Pi+7  now . 
Hey,  could  I  dump  him,  or  do  you  want  to  get.  to 
dump?     Yes,  that  was  your  Challenger.     Okay,  you 
can  dump  him.     I  "brought  him  up  here,  though.  He 
was  -  he  was  a  good  Challenger.  Okay. 

07  23  18  08     CMP  AGS  ON.     Is  it  running?     Yes,  it's  running.  Okay, 

55.    55,  56,  57,  58,  59  - 

07  23  18  33     CMP  MARK!     There  she  goes!     Yes.     Well,  yes,  it's 

holding  out.    Hey,  that's  firing. 

07  23  l8  1+2     CMP  Hey,  there  goes  all  the  docking  la-;ches! 

CMP  Yes,  everything  else's  right  there.  Beautiful. 

I  hope  this  thing's  working. 

CMP  You  know,  Houston,  this  is  America-     I  guess  in  the 

terms  of  some  of  the  Grumman  peopl<;  down  in  Florida, 
the  LM  is  a  "wop-off." 

CC  Okay.     We  copy  that. 


o 


DR  And,  Houston,  I  think  the  last  few  days  have  proved 

that  they  really  did  save  the  best  until  last. 


CMP 


xiiis  a  -  ±  need  you  to  get  the  maneuver  in  here. 
Gene . 


:m  Okay. 


Tape  127/9 


CMP  TJo,  that's  all  right;  I'll  get  it.     Okay,  go 

ahead.     Good.     Ready.     CMC;  RATE  2.     Okay.  (Hum- 
ming) PROCEED.     Boy,  it's  just  stable  as  a  rock 
out  there.     That's  a  STANDBY?     Let  me  get  some 
more  pictixres  of  it  here. 

LMP  I  think  you  might  take  -I'm  going  to  change  the 

setting  down  to  about  a  2.8,  get  to  the  bottom 
part  of  it  there  for  a  little  bit.     Right,  well, 
it's  not  quite  at  the  bottom.     He's  right  on  the 
side,  but  - 

07  23  20  39     CMP  Okay,  l6:     up,  MAIN  A,  MAIK  B. 

CDR  Yes,  we're  maneuvering. 

07  23  20  5^     CMP  Okay,  SAFE  the  PYROs .     LOGIC  2  is  OFF,  LOGIC  1  is 

OFF, 

07  23  21  02    CMP  PYRO  ARM,  BAT  A,  BAT  B,  BAT  A  are  OPEN. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  them  SAFE,  America. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston. 

CC  And  your  cabin  looks  good.     LM  also  looks  good. 

CMP  Hey,  great! 

07  23  21  31    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  the  preseparation  checklist  is  com- 

plete, except  for  completing  the  maneuver  and  going 
to  Pl+1. 

CC  Copy  that. 


CDR 
CMP 


And  the  LM  is  holding  attitude  very  well. 

Okay,  we're  going  to  get  there  at  19i|:03:30.  Okay, 
'^ig  ^^^1        -  well,  it's  03:ill  -  we  can  start  - 

we  can  -  got  so  excited  with  watching  the  LM  lh,-it. 
I  forgot  to  get  going. 

CC  Hope  you  guys  remembered  to  take  roll  call  before 

you  let  it  go. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Say  again,  sir? 


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CC 


LMP 


LMP 
CC 


CC 


CI4P 


LMP 


And,  America,  we'd  like  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO,  please 


-ljMP  .  .  .  got  it. 

07  23  23  00     CMP  ...     Yes.     We're  there.     Yes.     Okay,  there's 

average  g. 


Okay,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  on  the  Alfa? 


CC  We  read  you  on  the  OMNI  Alfa. 

07  23  23  31    CMP  Okay,  trans  CONTROLLER'S  ON.     Let's  see,  what's 

next?    Need  to  time,     . . . 


Hey,  you  called  Alfa,  did  you  not? 

No,  we  want  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO,  but  I'm  not  sure 
we  can  do  it  right  now.     Stand  by. 

That  doesn't  make  any  difference  on  the  S-band. 
07  23  23  kh     CDR  We're  burning  now. 

CMP  Ahhh,  well,  come  on.     (Laughter)    ...     Okay,  ^here 

ve  go.     -  0.1  to  plus  -  well,  keep  the  change. 
You  can  read  it.     Press  on. 


17,  ve're  not  reading  the  NOUN  85s.     Would  you 
read  them  to  ujs? 

Okay.  NOUN  85s  were  minus  0.1,  a  pi  us  0.1,  and 
plus  0.2. 


CC  Okay,  copy. 


Okay,  Bob.     You  want  me  to  get  the  high  gain  back' 


CC  Stand  by. 

07  23  25  Ih     CMP  Okay,  DIRECTs  are  OFF.     Locked  -  locked  it.  We 

go  into  -  we  go  into  SIM  bay  conf igaration? 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  OMNI  Alfa  is  Just  fine,  right  now. 

You've  gone  past  the  scan  limits,  anyway. 


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07  23  25  47     CMP  Okay.     Okay,  we  got  SIM  bay  jett  configurati 


on. 


CDR  Give  them  a  mark  though,  Jack,  from  the  -  when  we 

extend  the  antennas. 

LMP  Right. 

07  23  26  32     CC  Okay,  17.     We're  ready  for  you  to  start  that  P20 

maneuver ,  please . 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.     We're  getting  it  there.     Plus  90  52  .. 

CC  Okay,  17,  we'd  like  to  hold  the  extension  on  the 

HF  antennas  until  we  get  the  high  gain  reacquired. 
We'd  like  you  to  go  to  P20  at  the  time  we  see  that. 

CMP  Okay.     Will  do. 

CMP  ...  ENTER.     Yes,  that's  when  we  can  get  there. 

07  23  27  50     CMP  Yes,  it's  supposed  to  be  the  slow  rate.  Now, 

. .  fast  rate . 


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Tape  128/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


07  23  28  01    CC  And,  Jack.     Sometime  at  your  convenience,  I've 

got  an  update  for  the  Flight  Plan.     It's  pretty 
much  your  next  rev.    So  sometime  during  this  rev, 
give  me  a  call,  and  I'll  read  it  up  to  you.  It'll 
be  -  it'll  start  just  about  the  time  the  next  rev 
starts. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  give  you  a  call  on  that,  Houston. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

LMP  Houston,  America.     Magazine  Dog  Dog  is  kO  percent 

remaining. 

CC  I  copy  that . 

07  23  31  23    CC  Okay,  and,  America,  we've  got  a  pitch  of  minus  67 

and  a  yaw  of  300  for  the  high  gain. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     Let  me  have  the  old  Flight  Plan 

changes . 

CC  Okay.    At  page  195s  excuse  me  -  time  195:15  - 

that's  page  30^+. 

LMP  Go  ahead, 

CC  Okay.     It  says,  "Set  HIGH  GAIN  MANUAL,  WIDE"  and 

the  new  angles  will  be  pitch  of  minus  5  and  yaw 
of  315.  And  the  time  will  be  196:30  instead  of 
21:30. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     You  might  also  at  that  point  write  in 

"Verify  all  command  module  VHP  OFF."     I'm  sure 
Ron  will  'understand  what  that  means.     He's  been 
doing  it  all  along  anyway. 

LMP  Yes. 

CC  Okay,  and  then  over  at  195:31  - 


Tape  128/2 


LMP  That  just  means  you  vant  the  VHF  off,  doesn't  it? 

CC  Right.     All  of  these,  I  think  -  three  switches 

over  there  along  the  side.     And  BEACON,  RAM GIN G 
and  - 

LMP  I  think  I  understand  that. 

CC  Okay.     I  thought  even  an  IMP  would  understand  that, 

At  195:31,  we're  going  to  move  "LU.3AR  SOUITDER 
OPERATE  to  OPERATE."    The  new  start  time  there 
will  be  195:31:38.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.     "LUITAR  SOOTDER  OPERATE"  wilL  be  done  new 

time  will  be  195:31:38. 

CC  Okay.     And  then  next  page  at  196:20  which  was  the 

orxgmal  lunar  sounder  stop  time,  we  will  move 
all  that  block  which  starts  with  "LUNAR  SOITNDER 
OPERATE  STANDBY  and  T-stop"  -  that  will  all  move 
over  -  and  goes  down  to  "UV  ON."    '.That  block  will 
move  over  to  the  196:30  time  of  the  next  column 
and  the  T-stop  time  there  will  be  196: 30. 

LMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  move  the  "LUWAI!  SOUiroER 

OPERATE/UV  OK"  block  from  its  present  position  to 
196:30:00. 


CC  Okay,  Roger.    And  the  "VERB  22  mm  79"  that  was 

originally  starting  at  196:30  will  be  done  follow- 
ing that  block  of  "LUHAE  SOUNDER  SIM  bay"  stuff. 

07  23  36  32    CC  And,  Jack,  there  -  - 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     Is  there  anything  else? 

CC  Okay,  in  the  middle  of  that  section  that  we  moved 

it  says  "Acquire  STDN,"  says  "High  gain  angles,"  ' 
and  those  will  again  be  changed  to  minus  5  and  315 
which  is  the  same  change  we  made  on  the  earlier 
page. 

LMP  Okay. 


CC 


Okay.     And  that  is  the  extent  of  the  update. 


LMP  Okay,  thank  you. 


Tape  128/3 


CC  And,  America,  we're  GO  to  extend  the  HF  antennas 


LMP 


cm 

LMP 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


All  right,  stand  by  -  about  30  seconds 


LMP  Okay,  Houston,  HF  MTMWAS  -  going  to  EiCTEND, 

number  1  - 


07  23  38  55     LMP  MARK  it 

CC  Mark. 
CDR 
CC 


Houston,  did  you  -  was  that  mark  for  OFF? 


Negative,  that  was  a  mark  that  we  copied  you 
going  . . . 

Going  to  have  to  square  a  new  guy  away,  here. 

Okay,  I'm  sorry,  I'll  tell  -  I'm  going  to  turn  it 
OFF  -  going  to  EXTEND  again  - 


07  23  39  ho    LMP  MARK  it. 

CC  Okay.     Marked  it  again. 


Bob,  it  was  OFF  for  about  5  seconds,  while  I  asked 
you  that  question. 

Okay,  America.     We  copy  HF  1  extended.  You're 

GO  for  switch  OFF  there,  and  we're  ready  to  extend 

HF  2. 

Okay,  Bob,  and  that's  gray,  now.     And  HF 
ANTEMIIA  2  - 


07  23  hi  30    CDR  MARK  it, 


America,  Houston.     We're  observing  CMC  in  FREE 
instead  of  going  through  the  P20.    We  wonder  if 
you  accidentally  hit  a  switch. 


Okay,  Bob.     I  think  we've  got  it  now.     Thank  you. 
CC  Copy. 
07  23  h6  25     LMP  How's  that  antenna  looking   


Tape  12  8/ 1^' 


CC  Okay,  yes.    We're  Just  going  to  tell  you,  it's 

probably  not  quite  out  yet  according  to  indicators 
that  I  guess  you  see.    I  would  like  to  go  OFF, 
though,  to  keep  the  motor  from  heating  up.  We'll 
come  back  on  it  a  little  bit  later. 


LMP 


CC 


CC 


CDR 


Okay,  it's  OFF  and  the  talkback  went  gray,  with 
it  going  off. 


CC  Roger.     Let's  see,  it  was  barber  pcle  up  until 

then,  right,  though? 

LMP  That's  affirm.  Bob. 

CDR  Houston,  America. 

CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CDR  Okay,  Robert,  I  Just  want  to  tune  you  in  on  our 

mode  of  operation  here,  for  the  next  few  hours. 
We're  getting  Ron  out  of  his  suit,  so  that  he  can 
operate  more  effectively  and  efficiently  the 
SIM  bay.     And,  then  Jack  and  I  are  going  to  start 
getting  out  of  our  suits  and  trying  to  clean  up 
a  little  bit,  and  that's  going  to  probably  be  a 
long  and  tedious  operation  but  we'nB  Just  going 
to  have  to  take  that  time. 


Okay.     We  copy  that.     And,  Ron,  HF  2  is  the  one  - 


CDR  No,  we'll  be   


 that  we're  not  q.uite  sure  if  it's  out  and  you 

might  check  a  visual  on  that  -  I  thi.nk  you've 
looked  at  it  before  -  when  it's  fully  extended  and 
-  and  give  us  a  clue  whether  it's  99  percent  ex- 
tended or  not.     Go  ahead.  Gene;  I  think  I  cut  you 
off. 


CDR  Stand  by  1. 


Yes.  Wait  until  sunrise,  Bob,  and  he  can  look 
it. 


Tape  128/5 


07  23  h8  26    CDR  Bob,  you're  probably  going  to  have  to  wait  until 

sunrise  to  get  a  good  verification  of  that. 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


Roger.     Copy  that.     I  Just  looked  dovn  the 
Flight  Plan  and  saw  you  going  into  darkness. 


CMP  It's  easier  with  us 


And,  Bob,  during  this  LMP  and  CDR  suit  doffing 
and  CWEG  [?]  changeout  and  so  forth,  the  LMP  will 
be  off  biomed  until  he  gets  a  new  set  and  gets 
cleaned  up  and  gets  them  on.     So  I  just  want  you 
to  understand  all  that. 


CC  Okay,  yes.    We  understand. 

07  23  1+9  18    CDR  Okay. 

CDR  Bob,  what's  the  LM  impact  time? 


Okay,  standby  on  that.  Okay,  195:57:20.  So 
it's  57:20. 

Okay,  that's  about  an  hour  and  20,  then  right? 


CC  That's  right. 


CDR 


Okay.  Of  course,  we're  interested  in  the  where- 
abouts of  Challenger,  so  when  the  time  comes  up, 
give  us  a  holler,  will  you? 

CC  Oh,  Roger.    We  will  do. 

07  23  51  33    CDR       .    We're  still  very  much  interested  in  her  perform- 
ance. 

07  23  59  kg     CC  Okay,  America;  Ron,  we'd  like  you  to  go  on  HF  2 

there  which  we've  got,  apparently,  most  of  the 
way  out;  but  we're  apparently  stuck  a  little  bit. 
Vfe'd  like  to  get  the  HF  2  to  RETRACT  for  10  sec- 
onds and  then  go  to  EXTEND  for  20  seconds.  Over. 
And  we'll  be  watching  here  on  the  ground. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  HF  2.     And  we'll  go  to  RETRACT  and, 

let's  see  -  I  need  three  hands  here  -  VOX,  let 


Tape  128/6 


me  get  VOX.     Okay.     HF  2  going  to  RETRACT:  5  1+ 
3,  2,  1  - 

08  00  00  iiO    CMP  MARK  it.     Okay,  ve' 11  stay  that  vay  for  10  seconds , 

■we've  got  a  barber  pole  -  and  - 

08  00  00  51     CMP  MARK  it;  okay.     And  it's  OFF  now.     Now  you  want 

to  go  to  EXTEND  for  20  seconds,  huti? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CMP  Okay,  5,  h,  3,  2,  1,  - 

08  00  01  11    CMP  MARK  it.     Got  a  barber  pole. 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


Okay,  21  seconds  and  it  was  OFF.     Hey,  you  said  - 
somebody  Just  told  me  about  lookin,2  at  HF  2. 
That's  the  one  I  can't  see. 

Okay;  we  copy  that,  too,  Ron.    Thaiik  you. 


CMP  Yes. 


Okay,  Ron,  we'd  like  you  to  do  that  same  cycle 
one  more  time.     RETRACT  for  10  sectmds  then 
EXTEND  for  20  seconds  again. 

Okay.     And  HF  number  2.     3,  2,  1  - 


08  00  02  Ih     CMP  MARK  it,  RETRACT, 


Okay,  9,  10;  it's  OFF.     Okay,  3,  2„  1  - 


08  00  02  32     CMP  MARK  it;  it's  EXTEKD.     Yes,  it  was  stuck  right  in 

there.    Cop,  okay,  that's  2-23  seiconds  before 
it  went  to  OFF. 


CC  Copy  that,  Ron.     Okay,  we  think  it's  starting  to 

clear  up,  Ron.     If  you'll  put  it  ir.  EXTEND  and 
leave  it  there,  we'll  give  you  a  ceJ.1  -  or  else 
until  it  goes  gray. 

CMP  Okay.     3,  2,  1  - 

08  00  03  2h    CMP  MARK  it.     It's  going  to  EXTEKD. 


Tape  128/7 


CC  Okay;  OFF,  please.  Eon. 

CMP  Okay,  OFF.     And  it  was  OFF  at  a  minute  and 

8  seconds. 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


Okay,  and  I  gather  it  was  still  barber  pole,  right? 


CMP  It  was  still  "barber  pole,  yes. 


CC  Okay,  America,  you're  GO  for  LOS;  and  we'll  be 

picking  up  on  the  HF  path  as  per  the  checklist. 
Ron,  we'd  like  to  have  you  look  on  the  back  side  - 
see  which  or  any  antennas  you  can  see  out  there, 
just  to  give  us  a  status  when  you  come  around  the 
Lorn .     Over . 

08  00  06  01    CMP  Okay;  we'll  give  her  a  try. 

CC  Okay;  thank  you. 

CMP  I  can  see  the  one  out  window  1.     Window  1  is  the 

only  one  I  can  see. 

CC  Copy  that. 


And  that  happens  to  be  HF  number  1. 


08  00  07  Ik    CMP  Yes  -  Oh,  here's  a  little  -  The  electrical  covers? 

Oh,  they're  -  each  one  of  them  is  in  your  bag 
here.  Yes. 


08  00  28  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  55 


08  00  51         CMP  Okay.     There  we  are  at  OMNI  Cha:rlle. 


Roger,    America,  Houston.    We  read  you  loud  and 
clear. 

Okay.     Houston,  this  is  America.     Okay,  for  your 
planning  purposes  there,  -  I  got  a  little  tied 
up  and  started  the  RECEIVE  ONLY,  TAPE  RECORDER 
at  195  plus  2h. 


Okay;  I  copy  that,  Ron. 


Tape  128/8 


CMP  Okay,  Houston.     HP  number  1  is  sticking  out  where 

it  should  stick. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that  and  -  Stand  by.     Okay,  gc 

STMDBY  on  the  LUNAR  SOUNDER,  pleasse,  Ron.  Some- 
body is  worried  down  here.     STMDB"'  on  the 
LUNAR  SOUNDER. 

CMP  Okay,  what's  -  STANDBY.     Okay,  STAIfDBY. 

CC  Okay,  and,  Ron.     We're  going  to  do  this  one  in 

VHT.    Apparently  they're  still  too  worried  about 
your  HF  antennas.     So  If  you'll  tak.e  your  MODE 
switch  to  HF  when  we  get  ready  to        -  come  out 
of  STANDBY,  we'll  do  it  in  the  VHF  MODE. 

CMP  Okay.    We're  -  we'll  -  we'll  stand  by  on  your  call 

then.     Or  I'll  go  to  VHP  now,  if  ycu  want.  Or 
would  you  rather  have  HP  receive?     I'll  stand  by 
on  your  call  to  go  to  VHP. 

CC  That's  affirm,  Ron.     You  can  go  to  VHP  now,  and 

stand  by  on  our  call  to  come  from  STANDBY  to  ON. 


08  00  5h  56    CMP  Okay, 


CMP  Houston,  America.     What  -  Is  somebody  kind  of 

afraid  that  maybe  the  antenna  isn't  all  the  way 
out?    Is  that  what  the  problem  is? 

CC  That's  affirm.     They're  worried  about  HP  2  not 

being  all  the  way  out ,  and  they  think  that  they 
won't  get  Mich  -  if  it's  partially  extended.  So 
we  11  see  what  we  can  get  with  VHP  instead.  And 
rxgtit  now,  we're  going  to  STANDBY  to  warm  up  the' 
film  cassette.     It's  too  cold. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  I  don't  think  I  ever  told  you  down  there  that  mag 

Kilo  Kilo  was  on  frame  99  at  the  end  of  the  ren- 
dezvous -  and  the  picture-taking  sesislons  there. 


CC 


Okay;  copy  that. 


Tape  128/9 


CC  .  Okay;  and,  America,  ve '  d  like  to  "bring  up  the 

high  gains  since  we're  going  to  be  using  VHF. 
And  we'd  like  PITCH  of  plus  25,  YAW  of  200, 
NARROW  and  REACQ. 

CMP  PITCH  of  plus  25,  YAW,  200;  and  REACQ  and  NARROW. 

CMP  Pitch  of  plus  25.     Okay.  Okay. 

CMP  Okay,  ... 

CC  Okay;  and,  Ron,  we'd  like  H    tanks  2  and  3  FANs 

to  ON. 

08  00  58  Us    CMP  Okay  -  2  -       tank  2  is  ON;  tank  3  is  ON. 

END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  129/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

08  01  01  25     CMP  That  end  might  stick.     It  might  stick  there.  The 

back  won't  stick  to  anything.     It's  the  wrong  kind 
of  stuff.     If  that  won't,  this  will. 

CMP  That's  the  vacuum  transfer  to  the  ECS.     I  can  put 

those  away. 

08  01  06  2h    CMP  What?    We're  just  - 

08  01  08  l8    CMP  We're  coming  across  Crisium. 

CMP  With  three  guys  in  here,  it  fogs  the  windows  up 

all  the  time. 

08  01  12  21    CC  Okay,  America.     Stand  "by,  5  minutes  to  Challenger 

impact . 

08  01  12  26     CC  MARK. 

OIP  Roger;  5  minutes  to  Challenger  impact,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirm.     I  don't  know  if  you  guys  can  see  it 

out  the  one  window  or  not  - 

LMP  We'll  do  all  right. 

CM?  Let's  see  -  we  should  be  what?  -  "behind  it,  aren't 

we? 

CO  Say  again,  Ron. 

CMP  Shouldn't  we  be  behind  him? 

CC  I  should  think  he'd  be  a  little  bit  behind  you, 

right?    Ron,  I'll  take  that  back,  I  think  he  is  in 
front  of  you. 

CIvlP  That's  kind  of  the  way  I  tho\ight  it  would  be.  But, 

unfortunately,  we're  looking  behind  us. 

CC  That's  affirm.     And,  3  minutes  to  impact. 

CMP  Okay,  3  minutes  to  impact. 

08  01  l6  2h     CC  MARK,  1  minute  to  impact. 


Tape  129/2 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CC 
CMP 


CC 


Okay,  1  minute.     Yes,  we're  right  over  Vitruvius  A 


now, 

CC  10  seconds 


:C  Okay,  we  had  LOS  LM.     And  we  don't  believe  we  saw 

down  here ,  fellows . 


do  you  mean,  you  don't  believe  you  saw  it? 
That  means  that  we  didn't  see  it  -  on  the  TV. 


CMP  Oh,  on  the  TV,  I  see  -  I  see, 


Vte  are  picking  up  the  signal  on  the  seisraogranh, 
though,  the  geophones. 


08  01  20  08    CMP  Okay.     Hey,  Houston,  I  can  see  a  bright  spot  cn  -h( 

South. Massif  -  on  the  top  of  the  South  Massi^■. 


Okay,  go  ahead  again  there,  guys. 

Okay,  this  is  America.     I  can  see  s,  bright  spot 
on  the  top  of  the  South  Massif  and  -  let  me  see  - 
from  the  west  you  got  the  first  hill  or  the  first 
part  of  the  mountains,  then  there's  the  valley, 
and  then  -  there's  a  valley  that  kind  of  goes"  into 
a  Y  -  it ' s  a  Y-looking  valley.     I  guess,  if  you 
come  from  the  east,  it's  the  second  ridge  from  the 
east,  and  right  on  top  of  that  ridpe  is" a  bright 
spot.     I  don't  know  how  big  -  I  don't  know  how 
big  a  crater  it  should  make. 

Okay,  we  copy  that  and  we'll  take  a  look  at  t];e 
maps  and  see  what  we  can  find. 


08  01  21  25     ChfP  And,  I'll  put  a  spot  on  my  map,  if  I  can  do  iz 

here.     Just  a  second. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CC  And,  Ron,  this  is  Houston.  You  ready  to  cotjv  ar 

update  in  the  Flight  Plan,  please,   f-or  :r_e . 

08  01  22  17     CMP  Okay,  do  you  need  iz  right  now  or  snould  I  mark 

this  on  the  map  first? 


Tape  129/3 


No;  oh,  no.     Go  ahead  and  mark  the  map  first. 

Hey,  Houston;  America. 

Go  ahead,  America.     This  is  Houston. 

Okay,  Boh,  I  don't  have  a  map  with  South  Massif 
on  it.     You  know  with  the  meridian  interval  on 
the  thing  and  it  looks  like  the  only  thing  I  can 
use  is  in  the  visual  observations  book  here  - 
landing  site  20i+ .     And,  if  you  draw  a  line  -  Do 
you  have  that  one? 

Okay,  I've  landing  site  20h  in  front  of  me. 

Okay.     If  you  draw  a  line  from  Shorty  to  that 
Reseau  mark  that's  on  the  top  of  the  South  Massif 

Copy  that . 

And  then,  extend  abcut  a  little  better  than  one- 
eighth  of  an  inch  toward  Shorty  from  that  Reseau 
mark.  Have  you  -  Yes,  somewhere  right  in  there. 
I'll  look  at  it  again  the  next  time  I  come  over. 
But,  that's  a  bright  spot  on  the  top  of  the  Massif 
that  I  hadn't  noticed  before  in  any  of  the  obser- 
vations going  by  there. 

Okay,  I've  got  it  marked  down.     We'll  also  see  if 
we  can  find  it  on  some  bigger  map. 

Okay.     You  know  that  bright  spot  might  already 
be  there;  but  I  don't  think  so.     I  don't 
seeing  it. 

Okay,  copy  that.     Okay,  and,  Ron,  we'd  like  to 
press  on  with  our  Flight  Plan  update  here  for  you. 

Okay . 

Okay.     Number  1,  we'd  like  to  go  HF  2  to  EXTEND 
for  3  minutes . 

When?  5fcw? 


Roger;  new 


Tape  129/^+ 


08  01  32  Ik    CMP  Okay,   3,  k  -  okay,  countdown  -  3,  2,  1  - 

08  01  32  25    CMP  MARK  it!  EXTEND,  taroer  pole,  still. 

CC  Ron,  stop  the  antenna,  please.     My  mistake. 

CMP  What  ? 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  let  me  read  through  this  one  for  ycu. 

They  are  anxious  to  extend  that,  but  thev  want  the 
DATA  SYSTEM,  ON,  so  they  can  see  i':  first.  V.liy 
don't  you  go  to  196.20  in  the  Flight  Plan?  ^ou're 
probahly  sitting  there  looking  at  it,  anj-wav .  And 
run  through  that  block  that's  there.     It'  starts  at 
about  196:19.     We  told  Jack  to  move  it  but  since 
we're  aborting  this  lunar  sounder  pass,  let's  go 
to  196:20  and  carry  out  the  steps  in  there  vith  the 
folloving  exceptions:     Do  not  turn  RECORDER  or 
RADAR  to  OFF.     Okay.     And,  we  want  L'JNAP  SOU^IDER 
left  in  STAIffiBY. 

08  01  33  31    C}^  Okay.     Let  me  read  those  through. 


CC 


CMP 


CMP 


Okay,  and  don't  moA-e  the  HIGH  GAIN.  The  HIGI 
GAIN  has  been  taken  care  of  alreadj-. 


Ckay,  I'll  do  that.  LUNAR  SOUNDER  is  verified  in 
STANDBY.  DATA  SYSTEM  is  coming  on.  HIGH  GAIN  is 
already  working.  SM/AC  Dower .  Jack,  could  vou 
turn  ON  the  SERVICE  MODULE  AC?  I ':i  get  it.'  Yes 
Okay.  SERVICE  MODULE  AC  POWER  •  s  01,.  LUNAR  .-OMig 
to  STANDBY  -  - 


CC  Okay,  and,  Ron  - 


-  -  and  we'll  leave  the  RECORDER,  ON,  and  RADA--, 
ON . 


08  0^  34  27    CC  And,  Ron,  while  you're  putting  those  last  three  on, 

let's  start  the  KF  2  to  EXTEJID .     They'd  like  to 
get  it  before  it  gets  too  cold  again. 

08  01  3h  35     CMP  Okay,  HF  2  is  going  to  EXTEND  -  3,  2, 

08  01  3^  hi    CMP  MJVR.K  it. 

Okay,  we'll  time  it  for  3  minutes  for  you  wn ■  :  o 
you  get  the  IR  and  so  forth. 


Tape  129/5 


08  01  3^  50     CMP  Okay,  IR  is  going  ON.     SELF  TEST  is  going  to 

HEATERS.     UV  is  ON. 

CC  Okay,  copy  that.     Okay,  Ron.     We  see  the  talkback. 

You  can  go  to  OFF. 

08  01  35  31    CMP  Hey,  it  did.     Okay,  it's  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  I  guess  we'll  try  and  probably  work  that  in 

some  other  time,  now  that  we've  got  the  antennas 
out.     And,  we'd  like  to  go  HIGH  GAIN  ANTENNA  to 
AUTO  and  2-1/2-degree  deadband  now  that  we're  not 
doing  the  lunar  sounder. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  and  did  you  get  the  HIGH  GAIN  in  the 

2-1/2-degree  deadband? 

CMP  Affirmative.     Yes,  I  got  that. 

CC  Okay.     We  got  that  and  I  got  a  TEI-65  pad,  when 

you  get  ready  for  it . 

C^TP  Okay,  let  me  pull  out  the  old  book. 

CC  Okay,  and,  Ron  if  you'll  give  us  the  computer, 

we're  ready  to  up-link  some  loads  for  you.  You'll 
leave  the  jet-on  monitor  and  state  vector. 

08  01  37  53    CM?  You  can  have  the  computer, 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  ready  to  copy  the  TEI . 

CMP  Got  it  all  dirty.     Houston,  America,  I'm  ready  to 

copy  the  TEI  pad. 


CC 


Okay,  America;  Houston.     I'm  ready  to  read  the  TEI 
pad  if  you're  ready.     It's  an  SPS/G&K,  which  is  a 
surprise,  I'm  sure.     And,  it  says:     365I+I;  plus  O.oO, 
plus  O.8I;  2l6:U5:lt8.23;  plus  275^1.5,  minus  01^6.9 
minus  OOO9.O;  179,  103,  359.     The  rest  of  the  pad 
is  l^iA.     GDC  align  stars  are  Sirius  and  Rigel ,  I 
guess  they  picked  some  bright  ones  for  you  for  a 
change.     We  have  alignments  of  136  -  - 


Tape  129/6 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP  Hey,  they're  good  ones. 

CC  -  -  160,  and  03h.     Ullage  is  four  Jet,  12  seconds, 

and  we're  using  lift-off  REFSMt^AT .  Over. 

08  01  kl  06    CMP  Okay,  TEI  -  I've  forgotten  what  rev  it  was. 

CC  65. 

CMP  SPS/G&N,  365U1  -  55,  okay? 

CC  65,  65. 

CMP  Oh,   65  it  is.     Okay,  now  on  ^47,  the  weight  -  36541- 

plus  0.60,  plus  0.81,  2l6:l45:ij8.23;  i^lus  215k  5 
minus  Oli+6.9,  minus  000.0,  179,  103,' 359.  Sirius 
and  Rigel,  I36,  160,  03U.    Jet,  12  seconds  for 
ullage.     And  we  use  lift-off  REFSMl'IAT ,  which  is 
what  we  have  right  now. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  and  you  dropped  out  there  at  2  rac"ientarv 

seconds.  One,  the  DELTA-V„  was  minus  a  9.0.  Ulla-e 
was  four  jets,  ^  ' 

08  01  k2  17     CMP  Okay,  that's  right.     DELTA-V^   is  minus  Q.O  and 


four-Jet;  ullage,  12  seconds.     Lift.-off  REFS:-:mAT 

Okay,  you  had  a  momentary  dropout  when  you  read 
those  two  figures. 


CMP  Okay . 


And,  America;  Houston.    Do  you  fellows  think  vou 
have  any  chance,  or  would  have  any  chance  next 
time  to  take  a  picture  of  that  nossitle  impact 
point  -  with  the  handheld  Hasselblad  -  or  something? 

Ah,  sure  can.     You  bet  you.     I  think  *.he  oesz  way 
to  do  It  is  with  the  250  lens  on  the  Hasselhlad 

Okay.     It  might  be  something  worth  getting  lust 
in  case  we  don't  hit  it  with  the  pan  c air. era"  later 
on. 


CKP  Okay. 


Tape  129/7 


08  01  hk  33    CC  Okay,  Ronald.     The  computer  is  yours  and  you  can 

turn  the  LUJIAR  SOUMDER  RADAR  switch  OFF.  Leave 
the  RECORDER  switch  OK. 


CMP 


Okay.  The  RECORDER'S  staying  ON  and  we'll  tiurn 
the  -  RADAR,  OFF? 


CC  Roger;  RADAR,  OFF  -  RECORDER,  ON  and  the  computer 

is  yours. 

08  01  h3  03    CMP  Okay,  RADAR 's  going  OFF  and  the  RECORDER  is  still 

ON .     And  -  ve  have   . . . 

CMP  Yes,  shaved  there  one  time.     Haven't  shaved  today; 

I'm  going  to  do  it  later  on. 

CMP  How  about  getting  the  recorder  going  there? 

CDR  What? 

CMP  How  ahouo  turning  the  recorder  on?  -  Huh?  It's 

right  in  here. 

08  01  I47  53    CMP  Yes.     It's  time  to  eat. 

08  01  50  16    CMP  I  don't  care.     Okay,  WASTE  to  PURGE  LINE  HEATERS. 

They're  ON.     Then  VENT. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Ron?  Over. 

CMP  Roger;  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  one,  while  I'm  talking  to  you  how  about 

flipping  up  and  turning  H.  TANK  3  FAN,  OFF? 

08  01  53  03     CMP  Okay,  TANK  3  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  and  then,  how  about  you  three  guys  giving 

us  -  giving  some  consideration  the  next  2  or  3  min- 
utes to  the  following  proposal?     One,  we  totally 
aborted  that  lunar  sounder  pass  because:     One,  we 
couldn't  get  the  HF  antenna  out;  and,  two,  because 
the  temperature  in  the  film  cassette  was  too  low. 
Those  things  are  both  taken  care  of  now.  And 
they're  talking  down  here  about  essentially  start- 
ing over  at  197  hours,  which  will  be  the  top  of 
the  next  page,  and  pretending  thax  that's  195  honors 
and  running  through  that  195-hour  page,  beginning 


Tape  129/8 


at  19T  hours.     The  only  problem  with  that,  cf 
course,  is  that  it  runs  into  your  eat  period  and 
destroys  that,  which  essentially  means  that  you're 
going  to  get  to  bed  1  hour  later.     And  I  guess  what 
we're  saying  is,  if  you're  going  to  get  to  bed 
1  hour  later  anyway,  we  might  go  ahead  and  ask  you 
to  do  it,  if  you're  agreeable.     If  you're  cleanlup  - 
cleaning-up  companions  there  have  progressed  far 
enough  that  you  think  you're  going  to  get  to  bed 
on  time  and  don't  want  to  do  it,  then  that's  an- 
other story.     So,  how  about  chewing  it  over  there 
and  letting  us  know? 

08  01  5*+  16     CI^P  Okay,  let  me  talk  to  the  guys  here  for  1  minute, 

but  I  think  we'll  probably  do  it.     Stand  by. 

CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America.     Let's  press  on  and  pretend 

-ike  I'm  eating  between  when  I 'mi  turning  the  LUNAR 
SOUITOER,  OF,  and  OF?  -  Okay?     In  other  words,  let's 
get  the  lunar  sounder  pass. 

CC  Okay,  well,  you're  saying,  well  -  well,  we  don't 

want  you  to  have  to  do  that  in  the  middle  of  your 
eat  period  and  destroy  ...  that,  Ron.  That ' s"  an- 
other concern  we  had  here. 

ClAP  Don't  worry  about  that.     I  -  I  can  throw  those 

switches  on  and  I  think  the  other  guys  can  mix  the 
food  and  I  can  eat  it  at  the  same  -;ime .  No 
problem . 


CC 


Okay,  we've  get  that  recorded  on  tape  there,  Eon 
Okay,  what  we're  going  to  do  is  essentiallv  -  - 


CMP  Okay  (laughter! 


 start  at  the  195-hour  page  and  we'll  jusi, 

mechanically  add  2  hours  to  everything  on' that 
page  and  run  through  it  as  -  on  the  r-,age .  OAay' 
The  change  that  we  originally  had  in  the  ^li^ht 
taan,  which  I  read  -  I  don't  know  whether  it  wa: 
to^you  or  to  -  Jack,  which  moved  t:  e  groun  from 
196:20  over  to  196:30  -  will  still  move-  over  t.n 
19b: 30.     So,  that  will  stay  ay   is.     And,  agavn, 
that  will  be,  of  course,  at  198:30,  then.     ;)o  yc 
understand  what  I'm  saying  there?  Over. 


Tape  129/9 


CMP 


Yes,  I  think  what  you're  saying  is,  we'll  just  do 
the  Flight  Plan  like  you  -  like  we're  starting  at 
195. 


CC  Roger  -  - 

CMP  -  -  like  we'll  be  2  hours  later  on  the  mission 

timer . 

CC  Roger;  you  might  call  it  miniclock  update. 

CI^  Okay,     Sounds  good.     Lunar  sounder  operating  time 

will  he  197:31:38  then,  right? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

08  01  59  02    CC  Okay,  Ron,  and  two  comments  on  that.     Let  me  make 

a  couple  of  other  amendments  to  that.     One,  the 
lunar  sounder  operate  time,  instead  of  being  31:38 
will  be  32:51.     At  that  195  -  top  of  the  right-  ■ 
hand  column  on  195  there  ~  be  195:32:51.  Over. 

CtCP  And,  Houston.     These  waste  water  dump  and  fuel  cell 

purges  -  that  doesn't  foul  up  the  lunar  sounder, 
as  I  recall.     I  don't  think,  does  it? 

CC  Oh,  we  can  go  ahead  and  do  those  in  parallel,  right, 

CMP  Okay,  good.     That's  what  I  thought. 

CC  And,  Ron,  one  other  -  Did  you  catch  my  one  -  my 

32:51  update,  there  on  that  start  time? 

CMP  Did  you  say  cancel  it?     I'm  sorry. 

CC  No,  do  you  copy.     I  gave  you  195:32:51  as  the 

start  time,  instead  of  31:38.     Did  you  copy  that? 

CMP  Yes,  I  copied,  I'm  sorry.     Used  to  working  in  VOX 

all  the  time  and  I  forget  to  push  the  button. 

CC  Okay,  and  the  other  thing  we'd  like  to  keep  you 

aware  of,  if  you  hadn't  noticed  it,  and  that  is 
that  this  thing,  of  coirrse,  Ron,  is  originally  ... 
to  a  196:30  plus,  which  means  that  you're  going  to 
be  running  198:30  plus,  which  kind  of  looks  like 
you're  going  to  be  eating  at  least  a  half  an  hour 
into  your  sleep  period,  at  the  very  least.  Over. 


Tape  129/10 


CMP  Yes,  we  understand  that. 

08  02  02  38    CC  Okay,  Ron.     We'd  like  to  have  H    TANK  2  FAN,  OFF, 

now  please. 

08  02  02  h9    CMP  TANK  2  is  going  OFF. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  130/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 
08  02  27  XX  BEGIN  LUHAE  REV  56 

ca  02  51  h9     CC  Hello,  America.     This  is  Houston.     One  minute  to 

LUI'JAE  SOUNDER,  OPERATE  - 

08  02  51  53     CC  MARK. 

CDR  Okay,  1  minute  to  LUNAR  SOUNDER,  OPERATE. 

08  02  52  00     CDR  MARK.     This  is  your  friendly  conmander ,  clean  and 

happier,  liacic  up. 


CC 


CDR 


CMP 
CC 


Roger,  Geno.     We're  glad  to  hear  you're  clean 
again . 

Well,  I'm  not  really  clean  but  it's  a  major  step 
in  the  right  direction. 


06  02  52  25     CC  30  seconds. 

CDR  Okay,  30  seconds. 

CC  Okay,  and  - 

08  02  52  ^8    CC  MARK  on  LUNAR  SOUNDER,  OPERATE,  now. 

CDR  Okay ,    . . . 

CC  And,  America,  a  question  here.     Did  you  get  an 

ISS  alarm  on  the  back  side  just  a  few  minutes  ago? 

CDR  No,  sir. 

CC  Okay.     We  lucked  out.     We'd  -  Since  we'd  had  the 

pet  monitor  program  operating  and  it  hadn't  been 
killed,  which  had  originally  been  planned  to  come 
after  the  lunar  sounder,  there  was  a  possibility 
that  we'd  get  an  alaj:-m  but  looks  like  we  don't  have 
it .     Good  enough. 


Ahat  was  going  to  cause  that  to  come  on? 

Tne  possioility ,  Ron,  was  when  you  were  reloading 
NOU"N  79,  getting  a  smaller  dead  band  -  ±z  depends 


upon  where  the  vehicle  was  at  thai:  tine  within  the 
old  dead  band,  ^fP  523  might  have  suddenly  found 
you  outside  the  dead  taxid  and  been  unhappy. 

Okay,  I'm  with  you.     Thank  you. 

Okay,  looks  like  we  lucked  out  though. 

Say ,  Bob .  do  you  know  -  - 

Go. 

Do  you  know  any  more  about  the  demise  of  Challenger 

We  know  that  it  was  within  15  kilometers  of  where 
it  was  supposed  to  be,  Gene.     We  could  not  get  a 
visual  on  it.     It  was  quite  obvious  that  the  geo- 
phone  saw  it  and  all  that  -  there's  no  question 
about  that,  it's  just  that,  as  it  turned  out  at 
the  last  minute  it  was  pretty  hard  to  pick  out 
where  exactly  it  was  going  to  be  in  order  to  have 
the  TV  camera  there , 

But  everything  appea^red  to  functic>n  properly,  huh, 
the  ALSEP  and  you  -  you're  pretty  happy  with  it? 

Roger.     Everything  except  the  TV  snd,  of  course, 
that's  just  an  extra  goodie. 

And,  America,  if  you  guys  are  interested  in  tr^^ing 
to  take  a  couple  of  250-millimetei   shots  of  that 
tonight,  we've  got  a  little  camerg.  pad  here  for 
it  we  can  pass  up  -  if  you're  interested. 

Hey,  you  bet  I'll  take  it  -  I  want  to  try  it. 

Okay,  let  me  know  when  you  get  a  piece  of  paper 
there ,  Ron . 

Okay,  go  ahead. 

Okay,^it's  a  LM  impact  TCA  and  it's  time  is 
197^56:35  and  the  camera  data  is  CjX5  ,  EL,  250  ,  Cz.X, 
f/5.6,  1/125,  infinity.     Asia  magazine  Kappa  Kappa 
or  Kilo  Kilo,  and  you  can  use  up  Lo  10  frsjj:es  on 
it.  Over, 


Tape  130/3 


CMP  Okay.     I  think  i  put  Kappa  Kappa  hack,  I've  got 

Oscar  Oscar  on  there.  How  about  it  if  I  use  that, 
okay? 


CC 


CC 


Okay,  that's  fine,  Ron.  And,  we'd  like  to  get  H 
tanks  2  and  3  FAWs  back  ON. 


08  02  57  26    CMP  2  and  3  are  ON 

CC  Okay. 


:;DR  Hey,  Bob.     A  quick  summary  on  that  rendezvous  as 

far  as  LM  performance  vms  concerned.  Handling 
characteristics  were  outstanding  and  pretty  much 
the  same  as  they  have  always  been  on  LMs  in  the 
past.     The  APS  burn  -  burn  went  nominal;  the 
residuals  on  that  one  were  actually  quite  big, 
about  7^+^,  that's  feet  per  second  -  and  we  nulled 
those  out  and  after  that  the  midcourses  were  max 
of  1.3,  then  a  max  of  1.6  on  the  second  one.  But, 
after  the  TPI ,  we  were  coming  up  -  up  the  pike 
right  -  over  -  right  -  all  the  way  in  the  line- 
of-sight  rates  -  actually  both  out  of  plajie  as  well 
as  in  plane  were  -  were  zero  -  basically  zero  for 
out  of  plane  and,  as  predicted,  on  a  nominal  curve 
for  in  plane.     And  it  really  ended  up  to  be  pretty 
much  a  storybook  rendezvous . 


Okay.     You  went  to  give  me  that  TPI  again  or  did 
you  already  pass  that  down  to  ground?     I  didn't 
copy  the  residuals  there? 


:DR  No,  I  didn't  tell  them  that.     And  we  didn't  get  a 

chance  to  copy  them  down  because  I  wanted  to  get 
them  all  down  on  tape.     It  surprised  me  after  the 
APS  burn  because  they  were  relarively  large.  They 
were  7  feet-per-second  in  X ,  i|  in  Y ,  and  4  in  Z. 
And  that  was,  I  guess,  just  short  of  a  it-second 
burn  somewhere  around  k  seconds. 

;C  Okay,  copy  that. 

;DR  And  one  ether  little  thing,  we  put,  I  think,  two 

marks ,  three  marks  -  two  or  three  marks  in  the 
AGS  -  manual  LiaxKs ,  after  the  last  midcourse,  as 
we'd  been  doing  in  the  simulator  -  three  marks, 
and.  ijack  tells  me  that  zhe  range  rate  came  right 
up  uo  -  rignt  up  to  the  actual  radar-range  rate  - 
right  up  to  100  feet  or  so. 


Tape  130/1+ 


CC  Okay,  copy  that 


08  03  02  17     CDR  Bob,  weVe  all  ,ust  eating  a.ay  here,  ar^thiog 

interesting  m  the  world  nevs  that's  worth  coL 

K-enting  on? 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 

08  03  Ob  07  CC 
Ci^ 


Okay;  stand  by.  Let  me  find  out.  Did  you  guys 
get  any  news  this  morning? 

Wo,  sir;  we  vere  busy  otherwise. 


CMP  Yes,  I  did. 


Okay  well,  stand  by  and  let  me  get  hold  of  the 
people  and  see  if  we  can  get  some  news  for  you. 

Okay,  Gene,  we're  working  on  that,  it  may  take  us 
a  whi±e  to  get  it.     And  -  but  we  ought  to  have  it 
.or  you  before  the  end  of  the  pass.     From  mv  own 
experience  in  talking  around  here,  although- none 
of  us  nuns  around  much  to  read  that  stuff  today 
we  don't  think  anything  much  did  happen  in  the 
world  today.     There  is  a  report  that  something 
happened  m  outer  space,  and  the  moon  vehicle  we 
believe,  had  a  lift-off  this  afternoon,  a  rendez- 
vous   we  11  try  and  see  if  we  can  -:rack  down  any 
further  news  of  that.  Over. 

Okay,  we're  pretty  much  up  on  that  one.     Just  won- 
aering,  you  know,  Mr.  Truman's  been  pretty  sick 
and  so  forth,  wondered  about  some  of  those  things 
but  no  big  deal ,  we  can  -  we  can  wait .  ' 

Okay,  we'll  get  with  you  shortly. 

And,  America,  did  you  fellows  do  ycur  nydrosen 
purge  on  the  back  side? 

That's  affirm.     Hydrogen  purge,  an  0^  purge,  and, 

would  you  believe  we  forgot  to  turn  tne  K  ^^^^.e 
line  HEATER,  OFF?  2  -^^^^^ 


08  03  06  21     CMP  OFF,  now.     Tnank  you  (laughter). 


EZCCM  tnere. 


Tape  13-/5 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


Old  EECOM  was  watching  the  currents  there.  He 
had  you  pinned  d.o\m . 


CMP  (Laughter)  Good 

CC 


Okay  5  and,  America,  I  presume  you  guys  are  sitting 
there  looking  at  page  195-     Is  that  affirm?  So 
I  won't  bother  to  tell  you  all  -  you  all  these 
other  things  that  are  going  on  on  that  page, 
presuming  that  you're  not  looking  at  page  197 . 


Yes,  we're  on  page  195,  yes. 
CO  Okay,  good  enough. 

CMP  Really  it: ' s  the  hour  195  ,  you  know. 

08  03  09  10     CC  OMWl  Bravo,  please,  America. 

08  03  09  22    CMP  Okay,  you  have  it. 

08  03  18  hk    CMP  Houston,  this  is  America.     That  was  frame  1U5  to 

150  on  magazine  Oscar  Oscar. 

Okay.     Copy  1I+5  to  150  on  Oscar  Oscar.     Ana  if 
you  guys  are  starting  to  sort  out  film  mags  for 
the  next  day,  which  is  called  out  about  I96  hours 
it'll  be  magazine  Kilo  Kilo  instead  of  Hovember 
November  in  that.     So  it'll  be  Kilo,  Quebec,  and 
Romeo  for  tomorrow. 

Okay;  Kilo,  Quebec 3  and  Romeo. 


08  03  27  33    LMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


J-IP  A  little  historical  note.     Passing  over  the  Hadley 

Apennines  sites  from  Apollo  15  we  notice  that  at 
■chair  landing  point,  there's  the  same  slightly  or 
distinctly  brighter  albedo  area  as  there  is  at 
Taurus -Li -ctrow  site. 

CC  You  mean  down  on  the  plains  of  Taurus-Li" t row , 

like  where  the  LM  landed?     Or  do  you  nean  where 
you  think  xhe  IM  impact  was? 


Tape  130/6 


LMP 


CC 
LMP 
CC 
CC 

LMP 

CC 
LMP 


CC 


That's  affirm.     It  -  in  spite  of  the  -  no,  no,  no, 
where  the  LM  landed.     In  spite  of  the  -  As  we 
walked  along  the  surface,  and  this  was  true  at 
Hadley  also,  you  stirred  up  a  darker  zone,  albedo- 
vise.     When  you  look  at  it  from  o-bit ,  the  area 
around  where  the  M  landed  -  it's  a  distinct  bright 
spot  on  the  surface  of  a  -  of  a  fairly  ^uniform 
gray  albeao  plain.    And  both  sites  look  just  alike. 

Okay,  we  copy  that. 

In  that  regard,  anyway. 

We  copy  that . 

And,  America,  you  might  be  interested  to  know  that 

^M^^i""*^^*  ^^^■^"-^  ^till  lists  all  the 

LM  ECS  parameters  as  normal. 

Beautiful.     SPAfi-s  up  to  their  old  tricks  again 
I  see.  ' 

I  guess  it  depends  upon  how  you  define  normal. 
Somebody  must  have  spilled  coffee  on  their  console. 


°'  3°  ^i-^-'  ^o^^  the  way  -  the  way  it  -.as  performing, 

I  wouldn't  doubt  it. 

08  03  In  15     CC  America,  this  is  Houston.  Over. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 


Okay,  okay;  I'm  keeping  track  of  you  guys  he-e 
the  lunar  sounder  offtimes.     It'll  be  j-ist  s'^-.-'-tlv 
less  than  198:30,  and  I'll  give  you  some  hackron"^ 
that  as  we  get  down  ^o  it.     And  we're  reaay  -.c  -o 
to        TAJIKS  1  and  2  to  OFF,  and  TAi^K  3  zo  AUTO." 


08  C3  k2  03    LMP  Okay,  Bob,  tha-.'s  got  it.     1  and  2,  and  3 

AlCO  '  ' 


Okay,  and  ycu  can  delete  the  -  Alier]  you  get  to 
your  presleep  cnecklist,  you  can  tnen  delete  the 
cryo  Stirring. 


^MP  Okay 


Tape  130/7 


CDR  And  Bob,  what  time  is  AOS? 

CC  Stajid  by.    You  want  AOS  or  LOS?    LOS,  stand  by. 

CDR  Yes,  LOS. 


CC  We  have  LOS  at  198:^5:37.    About  a  little  over 

22  minutes  from  now. 

CDR  Thank  you.  Bob. 

08  03  k6  56    CC  Okay;  2  minutes  to  LUNAR  SOUKDER,  STANDBY. 

CDR  Roger.    Two  minutes  to  LUNAR  SOUNDER,  STANDBY. 

08  03  h^  h3    CC  Okay;  1  minute  mark  at  28:U3. 

CDR  Roger  28:k3. 

08  03  1+8  33    CC  10  seconds. 

08  03  he>  k3    CC  MARK;  STANDBY. 

08  03  hQ  50    CDR  It's  STANDBY. 

08  03  50  33    CMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.    All  those  things  in  the 

little  box  are  done. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy.    You're  down  as  far  UV,  ON.  Now 

we'd  like  to  have  IR  COVER,  OPEN;  and  UV  COVER, 
OPEN,  also. 

CMP  Okay.     Stand  by.    Did  you  want  2-1/2-degree  dead 

band  for  the  night? 

CC  Roger.    I  was  just  going  to  say  we  can  also  go  to 

VERB  22  for  the  2-1/2  degree  dead  band. 

08  03  52  20    CC  Okay,  and,  America,  another  thing  down  here 

196:1+7  there  are  the  two  comm  callouts,  the  DSEA 
motion  and  setting  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  MANUAL  before 
LOS,  and  we'll  want  to  catch  those  before  you  go 

around  the  back  side.    And           -  yes,  as  you 

around  at  LOS,  and  after  that  we're  then  ready 
for  you  gtiys  to  skip  to  I98  and  the  presleep  sys 
presleep  checklist. 


Tape  130/8 


CMP  Okay,  we  can  do  that. 


CC 


Okay;  ajid,  America,  if  you  have  time,  I  have  a 
few  news  items  to  read  up  to  you  here. 


CMP  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

08  03  53  30    CC  Okay.    Dateline  Washington,  the  United  States 

today  threw  its  support  behind  the  Christmas  Peace 
package  proposed  by  South  Vietnamese  President 
Nguyen  Vaji  Thieu,  who  accused  North  Vietnam  of 
using  high-pressure  tactics  in  an  attempt  to  impose 
an  incomplete  peace  settlement.    J\merican  repre- 
sentatives at  the  Paris  peace  talks,  told  the 
Communists  it  was  futile  for  them  to  continue 
clamoring  for  the  signature  of  the  cease-fire 
agreement  drafted  in  October  by  Kissinger  and 
Le  Due  Tho.     In  Kansas  City,  the  condition  of 
former  President  Harry  S.  Truman  weakened  to, 
^uote    very  serious"  Thursday.    His  doctor  says 
vital  signs  are  stable,  but  former  President 
Truman  was  unable  to  speak;  his  lungs  were  filling 
with  fluids  still,  and  his  kidneys  have  been  im- 
paired.    In  Mexico  City,  the  International  Federa- 
tion of  Airline  Pilots,  meeting  in  Mexico  City  this 
week,  has  promised  a  worldwide  stoppage  of  all 
transportation  industries  if  the  governments  do 
not  take  action  to  stop  hijackings.     In  New  York, 
the  United  States  won  an  apparent  victory  in  the 
United  Nations  when  the  General  Assembly  voted 
an  approval  of  a  cut  in  U.S.  contributions  to  the 
world  organization.    Vote  was  8l  to  27,  and  reduces 
the  U.S.  budget  assessment  from  31.5  percent  to 
25  percent,  starting  in  19lh.    Here  at  home  in 
Houston,  the  city  council  voted  to  locate  the  new 
proposed  sports  arena  in  the  Greenway  Plaza.  The 
vote,  however,  stipulates  that  the  Mayor  find  a 
way  to  finance  it  without  using  city  tax  funds. 
Council  indicated  that  if  the  Mayor  can't  do  this, 
the  city  will  abandon  plans  for  the  10-million- 
dollar,  iS-thousand-seat  facility.    On  the  lighter 
side    m  Jersey  City,  only  one  of  51  -  that  is  one 
of  51  women  who  took  physical  exams  for  the  police 
department,  passed.    Police  Director  Frederick 
Stevens  said  2h  of  the  women  were  too  short,  seven 
were  underweight,  and  four  did  not  have  eyesight 
that  could  be  corrected.     In  sports,  the  Alberta 
Oilers,  that's  Alberta  and  not  Houston  Oilers 


Tape  130/9 


these  are  the  hockey  ones,  skated  past  the  Houston 
Aeros  for  a  3-to-2  victory  here  in  Houston.  And 
the  Minnesota  Vikings,  in  the  city  of  Minneapolis, 
came  to  terms  on  a  lease  agreement  to  play  their 
games  in  a  proposed  stadium  up  there  in  the  north, 
or  I  guess  it's  building  a  stadium  to  keep  it  from 
being  too  cold,  instead  of  being  too  muggy  like  it 
is  dovn  here.    And  that's  the  news;  as  you  can  see, 
it's  a  slow  news  day  and  things  are  still  moving 
very  slowly  down  here. 

Thank  you.  Bob. 

Bob,  we  realize  it's  -  it's  tomorrow  down  there 
but  this  still  might  be  appropriate. 

(Singing:  Happy  birthday  to  you,  happy  birthday 
to  you,  happy  birthday,  dear  Bob,  happy  birthday 
to  you) 

Well,  all  I  can  say,  it  might  be  appropriate,  but 
it's  not  very  musical. 

(Laughter) 

Thank  you ,  guys . 

Epic,  Bob,  epic.     At  least  you  know  it's  from  the 
bottom  of  our  -  hearts. 

(Laughter). 

And  just  to  let  you  guys  know  that  I'm  not  easily 
swayed  and  made  soft  by  such  shows  of  sentiment, 
I  want  to  remind  the  CDR  and  the  LMP  that  they're 
going  to  start  collecting  their  urine  from  now  on, 
and  you  shouldn't  have  been  dumping  it  since 
197:00. 

Okay,  we're  in  the  process  of  changing  over. 

Okay,  and  COVERs  are  OPEN  on  the  UV  and  the  IR, 

so  we  won't  be  dumping  it  anyway  right  now,  tonight, 

right? 

That's  right. 


Tape  130/10 


CC 


LMP 


CC 


And,  Jack,  you're  going  to  be  on  the  "biomed  tonight? 

Whose  side  are  you  on?    Of  course,  I  am.    Bob,  I'm 
hooking  up  right  now.    I  sort  of  rested  ii^y  -  my 
own  personal  sensors  and  I'm  putting  the  mechanical 
ones  on  -  electrical  ones,  I  guess. 

Okay,  I  tell  you  what.     If  you  wait  6  minutes  until 
after  LOS  to  finish  that,  you'll  leave  the  Surgeon 
in  suspense  until  you  come  around  on  AOS.  That'll 


help  keep  him  awake 
IMP  Okay,  I'll  see  what  I  can  do  one  way  or  the  other 

IMP  Not  according  to  Flight  Plan. 

CDR  Hey,  Bob. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Would  you  say  what  you  said  a  little  while  ago  a 

about  the  waste  -  not  waste  dumps,  but  urine  diomps 

08  Oi+  00  k2    CC  Okay,  as  per  the  checklist,  it  says  at  19  - 

197  hours,  "CDR  and  IMP  collect  urine  in  UTSs 
until  208  hours,"  so  that's  vtntil  tomorrow  morning, 
And  I  was  Just  reminding  you  that  we  don't  want  to 
be  hosing  it  overboard  right  now  because  the  UV 
and  IR  COVERS  are  OPEN,  and  we  presumed  that, 
since  you'd  already  done  the  waste  water  and  the 
purge  on  the  back  side,  that  -  that  sufficient 

time  has  passed  to  open  them.    And  I  guess  that 
we  sort  of  presumed  that  you  weren't  in  the  mode 
of  dumping  urine  overboard. 


9 


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Tape  131/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUiro  VOICE  TMNSCRIPTIOW 

08  01+  01  17    CMP  Okay,  that's  fine.    I  -  I  was  thinking  of  the  bus 

collection  system  -  that's  fine. 

08  01+  02  19    CC  Okay,  and,  America,  once  you  fellows  finish  your 

presleep  checklist,  you're  GO  for  sleep.  You're 
GO  for  LOS  and  we  won't  be  saying  anything  to  you 
when  you  come  around  the  front  side  next  time 
around,  in  case  you've  nodded  off.    Call  us  if  you 
want  to. and  we'll  just  let  it  be  as  if  we're  fin- 
ished with  you  for  the  night. 

CDR  Okay,  thank  you,  Robert.    We're  hastening  to  finish 

the  checklist  and  get  to  sleep,  and  unless  we  have 
some  problems  or  questions,  we  won't. talk  to  you 
until  tomorrow, 

CO  Okay,  talk  to  you  tomorrow  night. 

LMP  Hey,  here.  Bob,  -  Bob,  on  the  biomed  LMP,  if  it 

doesn't  show  up  to  my  normal  standards,  it's  be- 
cause maybe  the  sensors  have  cone  off.     I'm  - 
I've  put  a  little  of  the  bacterial  salve  on  them 
and  they  probably  won't  stick  too  well.     But  I'll 
do  the  best  I  can. 

CC  Okay. 

08  Ol+  03  26    LMP  Preventive  medicine.  Bob,  not  curative. 

Okay,  that'll  make  the  Surgeon  happy. 


CC 
CDR 


And  before  we  fade  out  of  sight,  you  might  look  at 
the  biomed. 


LMP  Whoops ,  I  got  one  left . 

08  OU  05  01    CC  We're  in  LOW  BIT  RATE.     We  can't  see  you  right  now. 

08  01+  25  XX  BEGIN  LUHAR  REV  57 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

08  06  2k  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  58 

08  08  23  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  59 

08  10  22  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  60 


REST  PERIOD  -  NO  COMMUNICATIONS 


Tape  137/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 
08  12  20  XX  BEGIK  LUNAR  REV  61 


08  12  57  10    CC  (Music:     Tlie  First  Time  Ever  I  Saw  Your  Face  by 

Roberta  Flack) 

08  12  02  32    CC  Good  morning,  America,  from  the  Gold  Team  here. 

CC  Good  morning,  America.     The  friendly  Gold  Team  is 

standing  by. 

08  12  03  ho    LMP  You  guys  have  finally  learned  how  to  wake  somebody 

up. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  Good  morning.  Gold  Team,  this  is  the  command  module 

pilot  of  the  spaceship  America,  and  we're  ready  to 
go  to  work  again  this  morning. 

CC  Okay,  well,  you  don't  have  to  do  much  for  a  while 

but  eat  and  get  squared  away. 

CDR  Good  morning,  down  there.     This  is  the  commander  of 

the  spaceship  America,  and  I'm  glad  to  see  that  the 
CAPCOM  console  is  well  guarded  this  morning. 

CC  Roger;  yes  indeed.    We've  got  one  gate  here  and  I'm 

guarding  it . 

CDR  I'm  a  little  bit  disappointed,  though.     The  music 

was  good,  but  I  expected  the  Marine  Hymn  or  some- 
thing like  that . 

CC  Oh,  I  wouldn't  do  that  to  you  this  early  in  the 

morning . 

LMP  Better  now  and  get  it  over  with. 

CC  (Laughter) 

LMP  Has  your  -  has  your  flight  director  changed  or  is 

it  the  same  little  fellow  back  there? 


Tape  137/2 


CC 


Ko,  ve've  got  Neil  back  there  and  a  whole  new  team 
since  you  went  to  hed. 


08  13  05  01    rwp  Oh,  that's  right.    Very  good. 

LMP  Who  selected  that  song,  Joe  Allen? 

CC 


CC 


LMP 


LMP 
CMP 


CMP 
CC 
CMP 
CC 


No,  that's  -  that's  Neil's  special.     You've  got 
Neil  Hutchinson  to  blame  on  that  one. 

I  must  say  he  had  a  lot  of  accomplices  on  that, 
too,  so  - 

Yes,  Bob,  I  think  maybe  that's  one  of  the  best 
songs  that's  come  out  in  the  last  10  years,  if  vou 
ask  me. 


08  13  06  1+5    CC  Roger, 


But  then,  you  didn't  ask. 
Hey,  Houston;  America. 


CC  Go  ahead, 


I  think  mag  QQ  is  all  gone.     Shall  I  use  the  RR? 

Hey,  Ron,  at  208   

...  or  something  -  - 

-  -  05  there,  we're  going  to  delete  that  solar- 
corona  pass  anyway.     I've  got  a  Flight  Plan  update 
I  11  give  you  at  208  there,  and  we're  going  to  have 
to  delete  that  solar-corona  pass.     3o,  forget  it. 

CMP  Okay. 

08  Ij  09  15    CC  In  case  you  guys  are  wondering,  it  looks  like  we 

finally  might  see  the  Sun  down  here  in  Houston.  It 
IS  clearing  off,  except  it's  extremely  cold.  The 
temperature  must  be  hovering  right  in  the  low  iiO's, 
or  maybe  even  the  high  30 's,  or  even  lover. 

LMP  Well,  my  goodness.     I  should  have  been  watching  the 

weather  for  you,  Bob.     We'll  come  and  warm  things 
up  for  you  before  long. 


Tape  137/3 


08  13  09  CC 


Roger, 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  138/1 


APOLLO-  17  AIE-TO-GROIMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIOIT 


08  13  21  25    CC  America,  Houston.    We've  got  the  Flight  Plan  update 

and  a  pan  camera  photo  pad  for  the  Flight  Plan. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Stand  by  1,  here  I've  got  my  hands 

full  of  -  *«*  PRD  thing. 

CC  Okay,  the  only  thing  we  want  to  tell  you  is  don't 

do  the  solar  corona,  and  we've  already  told  you 
that .    We  '  11  get  "back  with  you  later  on  that .  If 
you  want ,  I ' 11  read  you  the  morning  news . 

08  13  22  l6    CMP  Hey,  okay.    Go  ahead. 


CC  Okay,  there's  "been  a  temporary  halt  to  the  peace 

talks  in  Paris,  and,  as  we  mentioned  before,  Henry 
Kissinger  is  in  Washington  and  has  conferred  with 
President  Nixon.    A  cease-fire  proposal  suggested 
by  South  Vietnamese  government  officials  has  been 
rejected  by  the  U.S.    White  House  News  Secretary 
Eon  Zeigler  has  declined  to  characterize  the  pres- 
ent Paris  peace  efforts,  but  say  -  did  say  there 
are  still  some  obstacles  to  overcome.    And  we  had 
another  hijack  attonpt .    A  youthful  Canadian,  who 
hijacked  an  airliner  in  northern  Canada  was  talked 
out  of  his  escapade  by  his  father.    The  youth  had 
held  62  persons  aboard  the  plane  for  a  short  while, 
then  retained  only  four  hostages  for  10  hours .  It 
appears  that  the  United  Mine  Workers  may  have  a 
new  president.    Maverick  candidate  Arnold  Miller 
retained  a  strong  lead  over  Tony  Boyle  in  the 
government-supervised  election.     The  transatlantic 
airfare  price  war  that  seems  imminent,  premises  to 
be  a  real  boon  to  the  vacationer.    It  is  now  esti- 
mated that  airfare  may  be  as  low  as  $136.00  for 
the  transatlantic  fare  in  some  special  categories. 
Juan  Peron  has  ended  his  month-long  visit  to  Argen- 
tina.   An  attempt  was  made  to  ncaninate  him  for  the 
presidential  election  while  he  was  there,  but  the 
move  was  declared  illegal  and  he  returned  to 
Paraguay.    A  few  other  news  highlights  -  the  vil- 
lage of  Rhonda,  Switzerland,  is  threatened  by  a 
half -million-ton  portion  of  a  glacier  moving  down 
a  mountain.     Willie  Brandt  has  been  sworn  in  as 
Chancellor  of  West  Germany  for  his  second  term. 


Former  President  Tr\jman  remains  seriously  ill. 
Chicago  Mayor  Daley  has  made  an  effort  to  halt 
further  conmiercial  development  along  Chicago's 
Lake  Michigan  waterfront.  Comedian  Boh  Hope  is 
set  again  for  his  annual  tour  of  U.S.  overseas 
military  hases.  His  first  Christmas  show  in  the 
Far  East  is  December  21. 

Now,  in  the  local  news,  here,  there's  a  good  chance 
that  Texans  may  soon  legally  put  a  bet  down  on  a 
horse  race.    A  state  senate's  studying  -  study  com- 
mittee has  heard  some  heavy  opposition  to  parimutuel 
betting  in  Austin,  but  the  proposal  appears  to  have 
a  good  chance  of  approval.    And  if  you  follow  the 
Tomball  police  force,  who  quit  in  masses  a  couple 
of  days  ago  -  Tomball  has  rehired  three  of  the 
officers  who  quit,  and  two  more  of  the  police  who 
walked  out  are  seeking  to  be  rehired.    And  Just  a 
note  here  -  there  was  a  little  beautif ication  of 
Houston.    Some  of  the  thousands  of  billboards  that 
line  main  highways  around  Houston  will  be  coming 
down  after  the  first  of  the  year.    All  signs  must 
be  licensed  by  the  state  and  a  fee  paid  after  that 
time.     Seme  of  the  sports  news:     Johnny  Bench,  the 
Cincinnati  Reds  catcher  who  had  a  benign  spot  re- 
moved from  a  lung  Monday,  is  recovering  nicely  at 
Christ  Hospital  in  Cincinnati .    The  star  baseball 
player  will  remain  hospitalized  for  about  5  more 
days.     Brad  Van  Pelt  of  the  Michigan  State  Uni- 
versity defensive  star  won  the  Maxwell  Club  trophy 
as  the  year's  top  college  football  player.  The 
Washington  Redskin's  Larry  Brown  took  top  honors 
as  the  top  professional  player  of  the  year.  South- 
ern Methodist  has  apparently  chosen  a  new  football 
coach  to  succeed  Hayden  Fry,  but  University  officials 
say  an  announcement  won't  come  until  next  week. 
Mark  Spitz  and  Shane  Gould,  both  top  Olympic  swim- 
mers, were  honored  as  top  athletes  in  the  world 
by  European  sports  writers  -  for  this  past  year, 
of  course.    There  was  no  action  last  night  in  col- 
lege basketball.    The  University  of  Houston  is 
getting  ready  to  play  California  tomorrow  night. 
Joe  Paterno,  Penn  State  coach,  has  won  the  Walter 
Camp  Football  Foundation  award  as  coach  of  the 
year.    And  it  appears  that  Mike  Tillamen  of  the 
Oilers  may  play  out  his  option  this  year  and  this  - 
Coach  Bill  Peterson  says  that  it  upsets  his  draft 


Tape  138/3 


plans  this  coming  year.    And  I've  already  updated 
the  weather  to  you,    I  just  might  add  a  little 
parenthetical  thought  that  it's  really  not  that 
much  in  the  news  and  all  the  news  around  here  any- 
way has  been  Apollo  IT  and  your  lift-off.    We  picked 
up  the  lift-off  last  night  from  the  Moon  and  car- 
ried it  live  TV  for  about  2-1/2  minutes  as  you 
went  out  of  sight  like  a  star,  and  then,  of  coxirse, 
live  TV  picked  up  your  docking  and  -  rendezvous  and 
docking.    A  very  spectacular  picture,  I  might  add, 
of  the  lunar  surface  as  the  Challenger  came  up  to 
meet  America.  Over. 

08  13  26  58    CDR  Very  good  news  summary.  Boh.    Thank  you.     I  didn't 

realize  Tcmball  had  five  policemen  (laughter). 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CC  America,  this  is  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Hey,  you  can  probably  tell  by  the  comm  that  this  is 

Jerry.    This  is  -  the  Gold  Team  has  been  handed 
over  to  the  able  hands  of  Neil.     Before  things  go 
too  far,  I'll  be  around  watching  for  the  rest  of 
the  flight,  of  course,  but  before  things  got  too 
far  I  wanted  to  pass  my  coimnents  on  to  you  guys 
that  -  boy,  this  has  really  been  super.     You  guys 
have  -  between  the  performance  of  you  guys  and  the 
performance  of  the  hardware,  it's  been  a  piece  of 
cake  down  here.    I  hope  it's  staying  that  same  way 
up  there,  and  we're  really  looking  forward  to  fin- 
ishing this  thing  up  and  getting  you  on  back  heme. 
And  my  hat's  off  to  you. 


CDR  Okay,  Jerry,  I  appreciate  those  words,  but  any  per- 

formance of  ours,  and  certainly  that  of  the  hard- 
ware, has  to  go  all  to  the  performance  of  you  guys 
down  there,  because,  you  know,  you  are  the  guys  that 
make  it  happen  and  we  do  appreciate  it.    And  I  guess 
this  is  sort  of  a  semiretiraaent  for  you  then,  is 
that  right? 

CC  Well,  I  don't  know  whether  to  call  it  soniretirement . 

It ' s  -  it ' s  a  relaxed  feeling ,  I'll  tell  you  that . 
But  I'm  anxious  to  do  it  again  and  hope  I  get  a 
chance  to  do  something  more  like  this. 


Tape  138/I1 


CDR  You  bet  you.    We're  all  going  to  keep  doing  it; 

and,  listen,  you  couldn't  have  left  it  in  a  more 
able  set  of  hands  than  Neil's  down  there.  We'll 
have  to  celebrate  your  3-day  or  h-da.y  rest  period 
when  we  get  back. 

CC  Roger.    Talk  to  you  later. 


CDR 


CDR 


CC 


LMP 


CC 


CDR 


I  didn't  -  I  didn't  realize  we  wore  you  out. 


08  13  29  lt9    CC  I  will  throw  one  thing  right  quick,  you  know  the 

activation  descent  day,  that  was  the  third  one  I 
had  handled,  and  including  all  the  simulations  and 
all  the  three  of  the  actual  flights,  I  think  it's 
the  first  time  we  can  say  that  we  really  did  it 
all  ri^t.    For  one  reason  or  another,  it  really 
turned  out  to  be  a  fairly  easy  day  and  I  was 
really  surprised. 


Jerry,  that  spacecraft  that  we  were  working  with 
was  undoubtedly  the  best  vehicle  along  with 
America  that  I've  ever  flown. 

Okay,  well  I'll  be  talking  to  you  later. 


CDR  Still  . . ,  babe . 


Jerry,  this  is  Jack.    Thanks  a  lot,  boy. 


CC  You  bet, 


08  13  33  3k    LMP  Okay,  Houston;  America.    Would  you  like  us  to  start 

charging  battery  Bravo? 


That's  affirmed  if  you  -  if  you're  there,  we'd  like 
it. 


LMP  I 'm  here 


Okay,  Houston,  we're  going  to  do  the  pan  camera: 
stand  by. 


LMP  Okay,  say  again,  Geno. 

08  13  31+  27    CDR  Mode  is  STANDBY  and  Houston  - 

08  13  3h  32    CDR  MARK.    POWER  - 


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CC  Roger. 


CDR 


CMP 


CC 


And  if  you're  curious  V/H  is  HIGH  ALTITUDE, 


CC  Roger;  copy  that. 


Okay,  Houston;  America  here.  I've  got  some  medical 
logs  and  food. 


CC  Okay.     Stand  by  1, 


Okay,  go  ahead.    We're  listening. 


08  13  35  27    CMP  Okay,  I'll  start  out  with  LMP  medical  log.     PHD  is 

packed  dovn  there  with  the  suit;  so,  we'll  have  to 
get  it  later.    He  had  6  hours  of  good  sleep.  Took 
a  Seconal.    Fluids  -  he  had  lots  of  fluids  -  hut 
they  weren't  logged.     Okay,  LMP's  -  okay  day  10,  I 
guess,  meal  Charlie.    Had  turkey  and  gravy,  and  I 
need  to  start  writing  -  No.    I  had  a  citrus  beverage, 
coffee,  fruit  cake,  meatballs ,  lemon  pudding  and 
lemonade.    Hey,  Houston,  instead  of  a  turkey  and 
gravy  that  was  really  a  beef  and  gravy. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  go  over  the  CMP.    Meal  A  had  bacon 

squared,  scrambled  eggs,  orange  juice,  and  coffee, 
vitamins;  Meal  B  -  need  some  light  (laughter) 
meal  B  is  chicken  and  rice  soup,  meatballs  with 
sauce,  butterscotch  pudding,  orange  drink,  carmel 
candy,  apricot  cereal  cubes,  brownies  -  I  guess 
that  was  it.    Meal  Charlie,  potato  soup,  beef  and 
gravy,  the  ambrosia  peaches  there  -  about  half  of 
it  -  four  brownies,  and  an  orange  drink.     Okay,  on 
the  medical  log:    PRD  is  1501*7  and  I  had  about 
6-1/2  hours  of  sleep  in,  oh,  catnaps  I  guess  - 
some  of  them  were  a  couple  hours  long.    And  had 
two  sniffs  of  nose  drops  on  each  side  prior  to 
going  to  sleep  and  five  cans  of  fluid.     Okay,  for 
the  Commander's  menu  -  how  did  we  get  to  day  10  - 
it  was  only  day  9  yesterday  wasn't  it? 

CC  Ron,  excuse  us.    Would  you  have  somebody  turn  the 

PAW  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF,  please? 

08  13  39  h2    CDR  MARK  it.    It's  off. 


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CC  Roger;  we'd  like  the  IR  COVER,  CLOSED,  and  the  UV 

COVER,  CLOSED,  at  this  time. 

CDR  Okay .    I'll  improve ,  Ron . 

CMP  Well,  it  takes  a  little  training. 

CDR  Takes  a  little  training  once  you  get  "back  from  the 

lunar  sxirface. 


CMP  Okay,  Houston,  UV  COVER  is  CLOSED  -  and  gray.  IR 

COVER  is  CLOSED  and  gray. 

CMP  Okay.    Ready  for  the  commander's  menu,  day  9>  meal 

Charlie? 


CMP  Hoxiston,  America.     Are  you  all  set  to  copy? 

CC  Yes .    We ' re  ready  to  copy ,  Ron . 

CMP  Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read  America? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear.    We're  ready  to  copy. 

CMP  Okay,  here  we  go.     For  the  commander's  day  9  meal 

Charlie,  meathalls,  hutterscotch  pudding,  heef 
and  gravy,  orsmge-pineapple  Juice,  citrus  juice, 
chicken  stew,  apricots,  and  gingerbread.  Okay, 
his  medical  log.    He  had  7  hours  of  very  good 
sleep,  no  medication,  euid  drank  lots  of  fluids 
hut  nothing  was  logged  on  that  part  of  it,  euid 
his  PRD  is  also  at  his  suit  -  down  at  the  bottom 
of  the  suit  bag  so  we  ought  to  get  it  out  here, 
shortly. 


CC  Roger;  copy. 

08  13  ^2  33    LMP  Bob,  in  lieu  of  the  solar  corona  photography,  I 

watched  -  Gene  and  I  both  watched  it  set  and  there 
are  two  bands  which  I  still  can  see  now  -  a  zodiacal 
li^t,  I  guess,  going  out  symmetrically  on  either 
side  of  the  plane  in  the  ecliptic  and  they  make  an 
angle  between  themselves  of  about,  let's  say, 
70  to  80  degrees.     I  can  still  -  knowing  they're 
there  -  I  can  still  pick  up  the  bands ,  streamers , 
I  guess  would  be  a  better  word.     And  last  night 
when  I  watched  one  set,  there  was  a  strong  linear 


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CC 

08  13  hk  12  LMP 
CC 

CDR 

CC 

LMP 

CDR 

LMP 

CDR 

CDR 

08  13  1^5  1^  CDR 

CC 
LMP 

CC 


streamer  going  out  -  oh,  maybe  3  or  i+  or  5  diameters  - 
I'll  have  to  get  my  directions  straight.    Well,  I'll 
figure  out  which  side  of  the  ecliptic  it  was.  That 
was  not  nearly  so  strong  when  I  looked  this  time  - 
now  partly  -  that  may  he  dark,  adaptation,  I  don't 
know,  hut  I'll  try  to  keep  track  of  that  one.  But 
these  two  streamers  today  are  ahout  an  equal 
strength  and  they're  still  visible  as  zodiacal 
li^t. 

Okay,  Jack,  we'd  -  quick  break,  we'd  like  the  HIGH 
GAIN  to  AUTO  and  we'd  like  to  get  on  with  this 
Flight  Plan  update,  please. 

Okay,  you've  got  AUTO. 

Okay,  and  this  is  a  real-time  Flight  Plan  change. 
This  real  time  rigjit  here,  and  right  now  if  you'll 
go  MAPPING  CAMERA  COVER,  OPEN,  and  MAPPING  CAMERA, 
E3{TEND,  and  give  us  a  mark,  we'll  time  the  extend 
time  on  it,  please. 

Okay,  Bob,  the  MAPPING  CAMERA  COVER  -  Ready? 
Jack,  will  you  go  back  to  REACQ  on  the  HIGH  GAIN? 
Okay,  we're  in  REACQ. 


No,  Gene,  wait  a  minute. 
Oh,  okay. 

No-no  -  okay.  Bob.    MAPPING  CAMERA  is  going  OPEN. 

MARK.    And  it's  gray.    And  you  want  to  extend  the 
mapping  camera,  huh? 

AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN,  first  of  all. 

Okay,  that's  what  they  said  -  they  wanted.  Okay, 
going  to  AUTO  again. 

Okay  


Tape  138/8 


CDR  Houston,  America.    You  say  you're  going  to  extend 

the  mapping  camera,  nov? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  ve're  extending  it  early  be- 

cause we  vant  to  time  it,  and  extend  it  now,  please, 
and  give  us  a  mark  when  you  start  it . 


CDR  Okay. 
08  13  h6  58    CDR  MARK  it. 


CC  Okay,  and  might  as  well  finish  up  the  Flight  Plan 

updates  if  you  don't  mind.    The  next  one  is  at 
209:01. 

LMP  Okay,  go  ahead;  209:01. 

CC  You're  going  to  delete  the  "MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER 

ALTIMETER  COVER,  OPEN,"  and  "MAPPING  CAMERA  EXTEND," 
at  that  position,  becavise  you've  just  done  it. 
Just  scratch  them  out. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.    I  got  that. 

CC  Okay,  and  at  209:03,  add  -  after  "PAN  CAMERA 

POWER"  -  add  "V/H  OVERRIDE,  HIGH  ALTITUDE." 

LMP  Okay,  I  got  that:    V/H  high  alt  at  209:03. 

CC  That's  affirmative,  and   

CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  let  me  interrupt  here  a  minute.  Bob.  Can 

we  go  ahead  and  dump  with  the  mapping  camera 
extended? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine.    Thank  you. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  just  show  a  full  extend  at  209 :Uq,  Jack, 

in  the  Flight  Plan  where  it  says,  "Lift-off  time 
update  is  not  req.uired."    At  209:^0,  we'll  not  do 
a  lif^-off  time  update. 


Tape  138/9 


LMP  209:i+0.    You're  not  going  to  do  a  lift-off  time 

update,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative.    And  I've  got  a  pan  camera 

pad  while  you're  on  that  page.    The  pan  camera 
pad  which  is  opposite  209:15  -  209:15- 

08  13  U8  21    LMP  209:15,  pan  camera  photo  pad.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  T-start,  209:1^:^+^;  T-stop,  209:27:36,  and 

that  covers  all  of  it.  We  can  settle  "back  to  the 
Flight  Plan,  now. 


LMP  Okay,  we  -  I  will  do  that. 

CC  Okay,  sir,  and  if  you'll  give  us  ACCEPT,  we've  got 

a  state  vector  at  this  time  for  you. 


08  13  k9  07    LMP  Okay,  you  have  it. 

CC  Okay,  and,  Ron,  you  may  be  interested,  we  had  a 

nominal  extend  on  the  mapper. 


CMP  (Laughter)    Hey,  great.    I  guess  once  -  once  the 

door  stays  out  of  the  way,  it'll  come  out  all 
right,  huh? 

08  13  kg  52    CC  Roger. 

CC  America,  Houston. 


CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    Just  for  -  first  of  all  -  the  computer 

is  yours,  you  can  go  hack  to  BLOCK.    Just  for  your 
information,  at  the  beginning  of  the  next  rev, 
we're  going  to  have  a  Flight  Plan  update.  Or 
actually,  we'll  have  a  pan  camera  pad  at  the 
beginning  of  the  rev  and  then  into  the  rev  after 
the  orbital  science  visuals,  we'll  have  a  Flight 
Plan  update.    What  we're  going  to  be  doing  is  - 
we're  going  to  be. doing  an  extra  ultraviolet-scan 
program  and  we're  going  to  do  some  antenna  calibra- 
tion on  the  HF  -  lunar  sounder  antenna  so  we  get 
quite  a  lengthy  Flight  Plan  update  and,  after  that, 
it'll  just  be  flying  the  Flight  Plan.    The  thing 
with  the  lunar  sounder  is  that  we're  getting  a  lot 


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of  noise  from  Earth  that  we  don't  see  on  the  back 
side  of  the  Moon  in  the  HF  and  we'd  like  to  cali- 
"brate  this  out . 

LMP  Okay,  you  weuit  to  give  us  those  updates  now  or  are 

you  going  to  -  - 

CC  Negative;  we'll  wait  until  next  rev,  they're  not 

that  extensive  -  we  Just  have  a  number  of  them 
though.    Just  wsmt  you  to  be  aware  that  they'll 
be  coining  up.    They  will  not  interrupt  your  orbital- 
science  visual  targets  there  at  Mare  Smythii  or  at 
the  landing-site  visual . 

08  13  52  23    LMP  Okay. 

08  13  57  ^2    CC  America,  Houston.    You're  about  2  minutes  from  LOS 

here.    We've  got  two  items  -  the  America  is  looking 
great  and  as  you  go  around  the  horn  there's  no 
problems  open  on  it.     If  you  do  -  We  wo\ild  like 
the  LMP  -  Jack,  if  you'd  push  on  your  EKG  sensors 
a  little  bit  -  we're  -  the  data  Isn't  too  good  - 
the  EKG  sensors.    And  on  your       tank  configuration, 

Ron,  we'd  like  you  to  take  H    TAJSK  3  FANS  to  OFF 
and       TANK  2  FANS  to  ON. 

CMP  Okay.    TANK  3  is  OFF.    Number  2  is  ON. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.    First  -  first  break  I  have  I'll  change  - 

have  to  change  those  sensors .     I  -  I  needed  to  put 
that  salve  on  and  I  guess  -  that's  probably  the 
same  problem  as  on  the  way  out. 

CC  Roger.    Don't  change  them.  Jack.    The  CMP  is  due 

to  come  on  before  too  long  so  Just  press  on  them 
and  see  if  we  can  improve  the  data  a  little  bit 
but  don't  change  them  out.    And  you're  looking 
great,  and  we'll  pick  you  up  again  at  209:23. 


LMP 


Maybe  that  ratty  data  is  me. 


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08  13  59  02    CC  No,  no,  it's  not  that  way. 

08  lit  19  XX  BEGIN  LUNAE  REV  62 

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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GEOUND  VOICE  TIIMSCRIPTION 

08  Ik  k6  1+9    CMP  Okay,  we've  got  you  OMHI  D.     Somehow  we  got  off 

attitude  here  - 

CO  Okay,  Ron,  understand  you're  on  OMSfl  D.  You're 

coming  up  on  30  seconds  away  from  PAN  CAMERA  T-stop 
time,  and  I  have  another  pan  camera  pad  I'd  like 
to  give  you  "before  we  get  into  the  orb  science 
vi  suals . 

CMP  Okay.    Geno  will  get  the  pad.     ...  27  36  -  2?  36, 

Jack. 

CDR  Go  ahead  on  the  pad. 

CC  Okay,  the  pan  camera  photo  pad  is  at  209:30  - 

209:^5  are  you  read  for  that  one? 

CDR  Standby  -  PAK  CAMERA  to  STANDBY.     Okay,  pan  camera 

is  STANDBY. 

CC  Roger,  we  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  the  PAN  CAMERA  photo  pad  T-start  time: 

209:U9:0i+,  T-stop  time:     209:51:01.  Over. 

CDR  Okay  I've  got  T-start  of  k9:0k  and  T-stop  51:01. 

CC  Roger,  and  we'll  hold  off  on  the  other  pads  until 

after  your  visuals,  here. 

CDR  I  don't  have  much  to  do  anyway,  Bob.     Why  don't 

you  go  ahead. 

CC  Rog,  if  you  want,  we're  standing  by  to  copy  the 

visuals. 

CDR  Okay.     That's  right  ...  Okay,  we're  coming  across 

Mare  Symthii.     One  of  the  -  first  things  I'm  con- 
centrating on  is  the  -  slope  of  the  -  we're  out  of 
comm,  it  looks  like.     Got  some  high  gain  angles? 

08  ll+  1+9  17    CC  Roger,  trying  to  get  one. 

CMP  Okay. 

:DR  Okay.  Okay. 


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CC 


CMP 
CC 


CMP 

CC 

CMP 


CC 
CMP 


Ron,  if  you'll  do  a  standard  REACQ  for  the  HIGH 
GAIN  pitch  minus  10,  yaw  25,  we'd  appreciate  it, 


CC  Sounds  great, 

CMP  How  do  you  read.  Bet. 

CC  Loud  and  clear. 

Okay,  Houston,  how  do  you  hear?  Okay. 


We'd  like  REACQ  on  the  HIGH  GAIN  until  we  call 
AUTO,  please. 

Reacq  in  there.  Okay. 

Ron,  we're  standing  by. 

Okay,  Houston  on  the  -  the  craters  is  to  the 
north  of  the  Wright  Brothers.    The  slope  of  the 
walls  is  steep  -  prohably  1*5  degrees  on  the 
inside  -  it's  a  gradual  slope  on  the  outside  slip- 
ping away  from  the  crater.    There  is  no  apparent 
albedo  differences  in  the  ejecta  or  patterned  an- 
nulus  around  the  crater  itself  and  we're  looking 
specifically  at  the  one  to  the  northwest  of  the 
Wright  Brothers,  now.     There  is  a  definite  mare 
flow  that  is  unindated  [ sic  ] ,  and  it ' s  a  different 
color  and,  you  know,  that  you  have  a  light  albedo 
to  it  now,  it's  kind  of  a  grayish  tan.     It's  a  light 
grayish  tan  material  that  has  flowed  -  and  I  can't 
tell  -  it  almost  looks  like  it's  flowed  down  to  the 
crater.    There  is  an  impact  crater  right  in  the 
breach  of  the  crater  -  which  has  nothing  to  do  with 
the  flow  Itself.     The  material  in  the  -  I'm  almost 
out  of  sight  of  it  already.     I  was  going  to  say  the 
material  in  the  inner  crater  in  these  boulder  ring 
structures  down  there  -  the  materiaJL  all  the  way  in 
the  center  of  it  is  comparable  to  the  hummocky, 
bumpy  looking  type  stuff  that  is  not  really  the 
mare  -  not  the  smooth  mare  of  Smyth! i  -  but  the 
other  part  of  the  mare  of  Smythii. 


Are  there  any  differences  in  the  craters,  R 


on  i 


Yes,  some  of  the  craters,  though,  you  can't  see  the 
Doulder-ring  structures  on  it.    And  some  of  them 
that  are  definitely  impact  craters,  you  know,  that 


Tape  139/3 


have  the  ejecta  rings  around  them.     I've  got  to 
study  them  a  little  bit  more.     This  is  really  the 
first  chance  I've  had  to  look  at  Smythii,  on  this 
pass,  but  I  want  to  take  a  look  at  him  a  little 
bit  more.     Some  of  the  boulder-ring  basins  there  - 
the  walls  are  not  delta  shaped  at  all.     The  one 
to  the  north  and  let's  see,  as  you  look  to  the 
Wright  Brothers  there's  one  directly  north,  and 
then  the  next  one,  and  then  the  next  one.  The 
one  directly  north  we'll  say  is  12  o'clock;  the 
other  one  is  1  o'clock;  and  then  a  2  o'clock  cra- 
ter.    The  l-o' clock  crater  looks  to  me  there  is  a 
high  lava  mark  around  the  outer  basin,  the  outer 
ring  of  the  crater,  itself.     The  one  at  12  o'clock 
is  the  one  I  was  talking  about,  has  the  breach  on 
it  with  the  later  impact  -  the  small  impact  crater 
on  it.    And  without  the  binocs  I  couldn't  tell 
flow  direction,  whether  they  were  flowing  into  the 
boulder-ring  basin  from  that  mare  patch  on  the 
outside  or  vice  versa,  so  I'm  going  to  try  to  check 
that  out  the  next  time  around. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  we're  standing  by  for  any  comments 

along  your  ground  track  here  and  we're  following 
you.    We  would  like  to  -  when  you  get  up  on  the 
landing  site,  we'd  like  you  to  concentrate  on 
Stoney  and  F  Cra  -  F  Crater  for  those  textural 
differences  we  noticed  the  other  day. 

08  Ik  5h  57    CMP  Okay.     Shorty.     I  think  -  right,  I  called  the 

Stoney  the  other  day  too  I  think  but  - 


CC 


CC 


Yes,  Shorty,  I'm  sorry. 


CMP  The  one  out  on  the  landslide. 

'^^   And  we  would  like  you  to  mark  -  Right.  Will 

you  mark  -  like  you  to  mark  the  breach  that  you 
see  on  the  photo,  please.  '  Or  on  the  map. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  -  that's  the  breach  on  the  -  in  Mare 

Smythii. 

CC  That's  affirm,  Ron. 


And  Ron,  if  you'll  ask  Gene  or  Jack  or  somebody 
to  get  your  PAM  CAMERA  to  MONO  now,  please. 


Tape  139/1* 


CMP  Okay,  FAS  CAMERA'S  going  to  MONO. 

CMP  Okay,  go  - 

SC 


CMP  Yes.     I  don't  need  any  support,  just  a  place  to 

stick  them.     I  got  the  binoc's. 

CC  And  Ron,  we're  still  standing  by  for  any  calls 

you  might  want  to  make  en  route  to  the  landing 
site,  there. 

08  li^  57  22    CMP  Okay. 


CMP  Well,  again  you  can  speak  of  test  -  or  color  dif- 

ferences on  the  thing.    And  the  Sun  angle  now  look- 
ing west  -  you  get  the  same  streaked  -  well,  the 
verticle  streaks  that  I  talked  about  before  that 
you  see  on  the  backside  at  the  high  Sun  angle  - 
higher  Sun  angles  again.    And  that  seems  to  show 
up  more  and  more,  I  think,  at  the  higher  Sun 
angles.    And  these  are  the  -  what  I  call  -  radial  - 
radial  streaks  down  in  the  fresh  craters  that 
essentially  start  at  the  top  of  the  crater  rim 
and  go  down  inside  of  them.     If  you  take  a  look 
at  these  streaks,  I  don't  -  I  don't  see  how  they 
could  be  due  strictly  to  the  Sun  angle  on  them, 
I  think,  because  they're  all  the  way  around  the 
crater. 

08  Ih  58  39    CC  Roger,  did  you  have  a  particular  crater  in  mind 

along  the  -  - 

CMP  Yes.    On  the  -  Well,  I'm  trying  to  find  the  name 

of  it  right  now.     It  doesn't  make  any  difference 
which  one  it  is.     It's  in  all  of  the  -  all  the 
craters,  all  of  the  valleys,  and  everything.  It 
looks  like  the  Sculptured  Hills  around  the  landing 
site. 


CC 
CC 


Roger.    Ve  understand  that,  Ron. 

Coming  up  on  Apollonius,  That  area  now  is  that 
correct? 


CMP  Yes. 


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CC  Is  there  any  significance  or  difference  between  the 

contact  of  Crisium  to  the  Highlands  or  at  Picard  in 
that  -  or  at  the  area  where  you're  flying  over  in 
the  Mare  Tran  -  Fertility  and,  the  Highlands  right 
there  in  between.     Is  there  any  difference  between 
these  two  contact  points? 

08  15  00  17    CMP  No,  the  Highlands  look  essentially  the  same  as 

you  -  as  you  pass  from  Crisium  on  across  to 
Fertility,  and,  again,  they  look  so  much  like  the 
Sculptured  Hills,  it's  ridiculous,  you  know.  It's 
all  the  high  Sun  -  high  Sun  angle  again.  You 
got  the  streaks  and  the  highs  and  there  -  there 
are  masses  of  Highlands,  thotigh,  on  the  border  of 
Crisium  here,  though  that  -  although  they  look 
like  the  Sculptured  Hills,  the  sculpturing  seems 
to  be  radially  upslope  and  then  downslope  from 
the  center  of  Crisium  and  just  in  small  local  areas 
of  the  Highlands. 

CC  Roger,  Roger.     Do  you  see  any  radial  Fra  Mauro  - 

like  lineaments? 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


In  that  way,  I  think  you  can  see  . . .  the  Sculptured 
Hills . 


CC  -  -  Fra  Mauro 


No,  Bob.     What  I'm  referring  to  is  on  the  Highlands 
bordering  Crisium,  but  in  about  all  of  them  you  do 
see  a  definite  radial  pattern  upslope  and  downslope. 
From  the  center  of  Crisium,  but  none  of  the  linea- 
ments like  you're  talking  about  like  at  Fra  Mauro. 


CC  Roger,  copy. 


What  kind  of  film  we  got?     Oh,  I  got  the  wrong  film 
in  the  mag.     Right  -  Let's  see,  there's  Yerkes , 
and  then  on  the  side  of  the  slope,  come  Yerkes 
and  then  there's  about  a  50-kilometer  crater,  then 
there's  a  subdued  crater,  and  right  on  the  western 
rim  of  Crisium  -  in  the  western  edge  of  that  subdued 
crater,  it's  almost  a  70-degree  slope  down  there, 
and  it's  a  square  straight  slope  on  the  thing. 
There  doesn't  seem  to  be  any  ejecta  piled  up  in  the 
bottom  of  it  at  all,  but  within  the  slope  -  and  it 
must  be  50  -  about  -  yes,  50  kilometers  long,  and 


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CC 

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CC 

CMP 

08  15  01+  54  CMP 


there's  a  bright  impact  crater  on  the  top  of  the 
hill,  top  of  the  rim,  right  "below  that  bright  cra- 
ter, you  have  the  tannish  brown  streak  that  goes 
through  the  whole  slide.    The  rest  of  the  slope 
itself  is  the  bright,  light  -  real  light,  light 
tan,  I  call  it.     I'll  find  the  name  of  that  crater 
on  the  map  in  a  minute,  but  -  - 

I  think  the  circumference  of  that  crater  right 
there  ceases  to  be  round  -  - 

Yes. 

  It  just  is  squared  off  with  a  linear  break 

about  ch  -  at  least  20  percent  of  the  circumference 
of  the  entire  crater. 

Now,  are  you  talking  about  a  crater  on  the  Mare  of 
Crisium  or  are  you  talking  about  up  near  Proculus  P 
in  that  area  . . .  Hills? 

Yes,  it's  right  -  no  it's  right  on  the  mare. 
Okay.    We  got  it.     I  think  we  got  ...  -  - 

A  subdued  crater  right  on  the  Mare  of  Crisium  just 
below  Yerkes.     Jack,  where 's  the  - 


Oh,  the  filjH?     . . . 

Window  3  is  going  to  -  The  landing  site  is  going 
to  be  out  of  window  3.  Let's  see,  about  f  -  f/8 
and  1/250. 

Very  shortly  you  should  be  coming  up  on  the  mare 
prior  to  the  landing  site  across  Tranquillitatis 
and  then  to  the  landing  site.     Is  that  affirm? 

Oh,  yes,  that's  affirm,  we  should,  I  got  Proculus 
at  the  windov  nvunber  3  now. 

Yes.     Yes,  the  landing  site  really  shows  up  -  even 
from  this  distance  right  now.     We're  right  over 
Proculus  and  looking  off  across  down  through  the 
hills  there,  you  have  that  definite  dark  -  and 
now  the  albedo  or  the  colored  texture  of  the  thing 
to  me  is  turning  more  of  a  gray  than  a  tan-gray. 


Tape  139/T 


In  the  early  parts  of  it ,  I  thought  it  was  a  dark 
grayish  tan,  I  guess,  or  something  like  that.  Now 
it  looks  to  me  like  it's  more  tan  -  I  mean  more 
gray,  I'm  sorry,  more  gray.     It  has  essentially 
the  same  -  - 

CC  I  think  if  you  use  the  'binoc-alars  on  the  landing 

site  -  - 


CMP  It  has  essentially  the  same  -  Ah,  not  yet. 

CDR  Yes,  this  is  Gene.     I've  got  it  on  and  the  streaked 

albedo  changed  differences  very  definitely.  One 
is  the  dark  mantle  on  the  floor.     One  is  the  South 
and  North  Massifs  and  the  other  is  the  Sculptured 
Hills.    And  the  Sculptiired  Hills  are  at  a  light 
gray  albedo  between  the  Massif  and  the  dark  mantle. 
This  line  is  very  evident  and  there's  a  definite 
break  in  slope  that  you  can  see  between  the  South 
Massif  the,  I  won't  call  it  the  slide,  but  the 
white  mantle  is  out  on  the  valley  floor.     And  from 
here.  Shorty  stands  out  like  a  sore  thumb. 

CC  Okay,  we're  interested  in  all  three  of  you  on  that 

color  texture  difference  up  at  Shorty  and  then  we'd 
like  to  have  a  comparison  of  Shorty  to  F-crater 
if  it  is  possible. 

CMP  Okay,  that  crater  is  harder  than  a  son  of  a  buck 

to  find.    F-crater  is  right  on  Family  Mountain, 
and  there's  one  to  the  north  of  Family  Mountain,  a 
little  ways  there ' s  a  darker  crater  and  then 
there's  also  one  to  the  south  of  it,     I  can't  find 
one  on  Family  Mountain  at  all.     I  couldn't  the 
other  day  so  I'm  going  to  see  if  I  can  find  it 
today. 

CDR  Bob,  to  me  the  Sculptured  Hills  incorporate  the 

albedo,  both  of  the  North  Massif,  or  the  massif 
and  the  mantle  area  and  combine  them  to  give  you 
a  generally  in-between  gray  albedo,  but  the  sculp- 
turing is  produced  by  the  darker  albedo  that  looks 
like  the  mantle,  and  the  lighter  albedo  that  looks 
like  the  massif. 

08  15  07  kg    CC  Roger.    And  for  Ron,  the  F  crater  is  just  to  the 

south  of  Family  Mountain.     It's  the  one  that  you 
mentioned  south  of  Family  Mountain. 


Tape  139/8 


SC 
CMP 

CC 
CDR 
CC 
CMP 


Ohhh,  okay.     That's  the  one  I  saw  the  other  day. 
It  looks  about  like  Shorty. 

I3  there  a  cone  associated  with  that  crater? 

From  here  Boh,  they're  both  very  dark  - 

Is  there  a  color  associated  with  that  crater? 

Have  to  check  that  just  a  second. 

CC  Okay,  and  we're  about  30  seconds  from  the  T-start 

time  on  the  pan  camera,  please. 

Can't  see  that  far.    Stand  by. 

There  is  a  definite  bright  spot  up  on  the  side  of 
the  hill  -  It's  almost  an  extension  of  that  slide 
area  from  Shorty. 


CMP 
CMP 

CC 


Okay,  you  guys,  we're  about  10   

CMP  See  it? 

08  15  08  52    CC  -  -  10  seconds  from  T-start  time  on  the  pan  camera. 


CMP 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  Jack's  getting  the  T-start.  Okay  I  still 
get  a  - 


08  15  09  03    CC  MARK.    T-start  time. 

CMP  It's  on. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 


Okay.     On  Shorty,  I  still  have  the  -  that  light 
orangish-tan-type  material  -  it's  essentially 
perpendicular,  to  the  line  of  the  slide  area  there 
m  the  northern  semicircle  of  the  thing.     I  see 
F-crater.     Boy,  I  can't  hold  these  crazy  glasses 
still  enough. 

Okay,  let  me  read  you  some  questions  about  F-crater 
if  you  will.     If  you'll  direct  your  attention  to 
F-crater.     We'd  like  to  know  the  shape  of  the  crater 
profile,  the  rim  crest,  and  probable  or  possible 


Tape  139/9 


breaching,  the  smoothness  and  distribution  of  rim 
deposits,  and  the  superposition-relationship  with 
Family  Mountain  or  Family  Hill. 

Okay.    Get  all  of  those.     It  is  a  -  by  golly, 
there  is  a  raised  rim  to  it.     It's  light  color 
down  inside  the  crater,  though.    And  I  can't  hold 
the  glasses  close  enough  to  see  if  it's  breached 
or  not. 

Bob,  I  can't  see  it  any  more  but  let  me  add  to  it 
what  I  can  remember  real  q^ulck.     The  inside  is 
whit  e . 

Yes. 

The  outside  is  riEnned  with  a  -  It's  as  if  the  rim 
itself,  was  Just  dark,  very  dark.     There's  some 
white  to  the  south  about  a  crater  diameter,  sort 
of  a  -  small  distribution  radially  to  the  south, 
and  then  there  is  a  -  sort  of  a,  what  I  would  call, 
a  free-patterned  dark-like  ray  about  2  crater 
diameters,  maybe  3  crater  diameters,  to  the  south 
just  slightly  to  the  west  of  this  light  area  I 
was  talking  about,  but  to  the  south,  another  defi- 
nite one  to  the  west  and  another  definite  one  to 
the  north,  but  none  to  the  east. 

You  just  past  pan  camera  T-stop  time,  guys.  Jack, 
PAN  CAMERA  to  STANDBY,  please.    Go  on  Gene,  sorry 
to  interrupt. 

He ' s  got  it . 

Go  ahead,  go  ahead  with  your  description.  We're 
listening. 

I'm  going  to  draw  a  picture,  here,  while  I'm 
thinking  of  it . 

Okay,  good  show.  Okay,  guys,  that  completed  the 
orbital  science  visual  pass.  Any  other  comments 
you'd  want  to  make  about  the  landing  site. 

Yes.     It's  an  interesting  place. 

No,  not  that.     From  a  geological  standpoint  from 
orbit . 


Tape  139/10 


CDR  Yes.    And  I've  got  -  well,  my  white  spot,  there, 

is  ...  the  same  spot.    There  are  two  white  spots 
I'm  talking  ahout,  now.     The  one  I'm  talking  about 
primarily  is  the  one  I  saw  right  after  landing,  on 
the  thing  was  a  lighter  -  lighter  grayish  area  that 
was  evidently  blown  up  from  the  LM  landing.  And 
that's  still  in  the  same  spot.     You  can  still  see 
that  all  right . 

08  15  12  59    CG  We'd  like  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF,  now. 

08  15  13  08    LMP  It's  OFF. 


CC  Okay,  Ron,  anytime  you're  ready  now,  I've  got  a  - 

that  whole  series  of  Flight  Plan  updates  and  I've 
got  a  few  words  of  explanation  with  each  one;  so, 
maybe  you  might  want  to  take  these. 

CMP  Okay.  ... 

CC  Okay,  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

08  15  13  ho    CMP  HIGH  gain's  in  AUTO. 


CC  I  got  one  more  question.     How  large  is  the  bright 

zone  you  were  talking  about,  Ron? 

CMP  Right  between  Sherlock  and  Camelot  there  are  two 

small  craters  there  and  I'll  have  to  get  my  map 
out  to  look  for  the  name  of  them  for  sure. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  They  should  have  been  behind  the  LM  -  right  behind 

the  LM.  And  the  bright  spot  is  about  the  same  size 
as  those. 


CC  Okay.  -  - 

CMP  And  it  makes  I  would  say  an  equilateral  triangle 

with  those  two  craters . 

CC  Okay,  fine,     I  would  recommend  one  of  you  go  on  to 

the  "configured  camera"  while  we  start  the  Flight 
Plan  update.     We'd  like  to  get  the  Flight  Plan 
update  all  read  prior  to  that  P52  that  you've  got 
to  do  there,  and  somebody  will  be  taking  those 
terminator  photos. 


Tape  139/11 


CMP 


CC 


Okay,  soon  as  Gene  -  Gene's  drawing  in  the  flight 
plan,  there.     That  crater  -  Okay,  ready  for  a  Flight 
Plan  update. 

Okay.     Who's  going  to  take  the  terminator  photos. 
You  want  me  to  give  you  call  ahout  2  minutes  before 
the  photo  time? 


CMP  Yes.     Jack  will. 

CC             Okay,  well,  here's  the  Flight  Plan  update,  then. 
At  210:30  -  210:30,  add  the  following   

CMP  Okay. 

00    MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF;  wait  30  seconds;  MAPPING 

CAMERA,  STANDBY;  IMAGE  MOTION,  OFF;  LASER 
ALTIMETEER,  OFF;  select  POO,  POO;  VERB  -- 

CMP  Okay. 

CC    k9  maneuver  to  UV  scan  attitude.     The  angles 

are  as  follows:     16? ,  125,  35^.  Over. 

CMP  Okay.    MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF  -  this  is  at  210:30, 

MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF.     Wait  30  seconds,  MAPPING 
CAMERA  to  STANDBY,  IMAGE  MOTION  to  OFF,  LASER 
ALTIMETER,  OFF.     POO.  to  UV  scan  attitude. 

Roll  16T,  pitch  125,  yaw  35U. 

CC  Good  call,  Ron.     The  next  one  is  at  210:35  and  this 

is  a  P20  maneuver  that's  going  to  set  up  a  rotation 
about  the  X-axis  for  a  UV  scan.     Ready  to  copy? 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  P20,  option  2,  UV  scan.     NOUN  78   

CMP  Okay. 

CC    NOUN  78  all  zeros;  0,0,  and  0.    NOUN  79: 

minus  O.i+000,  plus  000.50;  NOUN  3h:     00210,  00042, 
019-00.  Over. 


CMP 


Okay,  P2-  at  210:35  vill  be  PIO,  uh,  P20  for  UV 
scan  option  2.     NOUN  78' s  are  all  zeros,  NOUN  79  a 
minus  O.U  of  a  degree  per  second.     Is  that  right? 


That's  affirm. 


Minus  O.i+000. 
Okay . 

Okay,  then  dead  hand  is  at  0.5  a  half-degree. 
NOUN  3h  is  210,  1*2,  19.00. 

That's  affirmative,  Ron.     Okay,  at  210 :Ul. 
Okay,  210:1*1. 

Add  the  line,  the  standard  line,  verify  DSE  ta.x)e 
motion,  HIGH  BIT  RATE/RECORD /FORWARD/COMMAND  RESET. 

Okay,  at  1*1,  verify  tape  motion,  HIGH  BIT  RATE 
RECORD /FORWARD  and  COMMAND  RESET. 

Roger.     At  210:57,  we've  got  another  P20 ,  Ron. 
And  this  P20  will  set  up  the  orb  rate   

Okay. 

  minus  sight  on  the  horizon.     Okay,  here's  the 

P20,  option  5.     NOUN  78,  plus  162.01  -  let  me  read 
that  again,  plus  162.01  -  plus  01*0.76,  plus  l8i+.78; 
NOUN  79,  plus  000.50.    And  we're  going  to  orb  rate 
around  the  Moon,  so  NOUN  70  will  have  a  50  in  it 
for  the  Moon. 

Okay,  at  57,  it  will  be  P20,  option  5-     Orb  rate 
to  minus  sight  on  horizon;  NOUN  78s  are  plus  162.OI, 
plus  1*0. 76,  and  plus  IB^.TB;  NOUN  79s  are  half  a 
degree;  and  it'll  be  an  orb  rate  around  the  Moon 
50.  Okay? 

Roger,  Ron.     Okay.     Stand  by. 

Bob,  while  I'm  standing  by  there,  oh,  that's  all 
right.    Must  be  my  other  map. 

Okay,  Ron.     We're  ready  with  some  more  if  you  are. 
Okay,  go. 


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CG              Okay,  at  211:02.     Add  the  following  at  211:02: 
UV  cover  CLOSED,  and,  in    parentheses,  put 
211:02:09.     Configure  DSE   

CMP  Okay,  we're  going  to  close  -  Oh  -  That's  all  right, 

go  ahead. 

CC  Configure  DSE  STOP/COMMAND  RESET.     Select  POO. 

Manual  roll  left  to  a  roll  angle  039  'by  211:05- 
Over. 

CMP  Okay.    UV  cover  CLOSED  at  211:02:09.  Configure 

the  DSE  STOP /COMMAND  RESET.     Whip  her  into  POO  and 
manually  roll  left  to  039  l^y  211  plus  05. 

CC  Roger.    And  Just  the  prediction  from  the  simulator, 

you  might  want  to  use  ACCEL  command  for  a  rate  of 
about  1  degree  per  second  to  accomplish  that.  And 
that  -  The  pixrpose  of  that  is  to  get  the  Sun  out  of 
the  mapping  camera. 

CMP  Okay.     Can  do,  ACCEL  command  to  1  degree  per 

second. 

CC  Okay,  at  211 :08. 

CMP  Just  a  second,  ... 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Hey,  Jack  on  here  it  shows  the  little  circles  on 

the  map,  which  part  should  he  taken  for  each,  rev  2 
or  whatever  it  is. 

CC  We're  in  rev  62. 

CMP  Except  for  some  reason,  on  my  map  D  it  doesn't 

have  -  Yes  -  on  map  Delta.     I  must  have  got  the 
■backup  map  or  something,  I  didn't  have  any  of  the 
photo  -  the  camera  settings  on  it.  (Laughter) 
Terminator  photos  - 

CC  Ron,  we  can  break  from  this  now,  we're  pretty  well 

ahead,  and  we  can  come  back  to  it,  if  you  want  to 
do  the  photos. 


Hey,  yes.    Do  you  have  the  -  Do  you  have  the 
options,  there,  on  the  La  Hire  Rille?    And  Mount 
La  Hire  -  which  -  what  the  photo  settings  are. 

Roger,  I've  got  them,  and  I  can  read  them  -  I'll 
read  them  to  you  right  off  the  mop  [sic]  -  map. 

Okay. 

Okay,  if  you're  looking  right  at  the  map   

Okay,  I  see  them. 

-  -  draw  -  draw  a  circle  around  La  Hire  Bravo. 
And  that  is  f/32   

Oh,  I've  got  the  circle  on  it- 

-  -  1/500. 

Yes.     f/32,  1/500.     Okay,  start  with  that  one, 
Jack, 

Got  the  circle  around  Mount  La  Hire?    It's  f/ll. 

250-millimeter  lens  -  f/ll,  okay. 

At  the  next  circle  up,  which  crosses  -  which  en- 
compasses the  La  of  La  Hire  Rilles ,  you  want  f/8 
at  1/250. 

Okay. 

And  the  one  that  crosses  -  the  circle  that  covers 
across  the  terminator  there  at  Diophantus  is  f/5.6 
at  1/125,  1/125.     Get  the  wrong  -  - 

Okay,  we  got  them  all.  Bob.     Thank  you. 

Okay,  just  a  question  for  some  other  period. 
Will  we  have  to  update  your  map  for  P66  and  P7i+ 
revs? 

Yes.    I  don't  have  anything  on  this  map. 

Okay,  we'll  schedule  that  in  prior  to  those  revs, 
Ron. 


Tape  139/15 


CMP  Yes.  Okay. 

CMP  Okay,  ve're  coming  up  on  Timocharis ,  now.  Start 

at  Lambert  and  get  the  -  right  along  the  La  Hire 
Rille,  see  -  Yes.    Take  six  -  six  -  six  shots  you 
know,  kind  of  each  area  at  that ' -  You  know,  north 
and  south.     Yes,  you  know  point  them  every  which 
way,  or  whatever 's  interesting  on  the  thing.  Okay, 

CMP  Okay.    Mount  La  Hire,  you  can  get  in  there  at  f/11 

at  1/500. 

CC  Hey,  Ron.     Just  -  Just  a  point.  - 

SC  There's  Euler  coming  up  there.     Okay,  go  ahead. 

Bob. 


CC 


Do  you  have  two  copies  of  the  maps  on  board?  And 
if  so,  did  the  -  would  the  other  copy  of  "D"  have 
the  updates  on  it?    Or  have  the  settings? 


08  15  27         CMP  Have  2  copies?     I  didn't  know  we  had  two  copies. 

Okay,  and  then  next  to  Euler,  we've  got  f/8  at 
1/250  -  north  of  Euler,     There's  -  well  we're  Just 
-  Okay,  we're  just  about  at  the  -  on  the  terminator 
line.     Yes.     No,  f/8  at  -  at  1/250.     Okay.  Yes, 
north  sind  south  along  the  terminator.     You're  get- 
ting close  to  it.     Then,  change  to  -  right  on  the 
terminator  -  change  to  f/5.6  at  1/125.     I  was 
wondering  when  you  guys  were  going  to  say  that. 
( L aught  er )    Okay . 

CMP  (Laughter)     Yes,  that'll  be  a  good  one.     I'll  tell 

you,  it  goes  a  lot  easier  when  you're  by  yourself. 

CMP  Okay,  yes,  we're  on  mag  55.     I  meaji  frame  55  and 

mag  Romeo  Romeo. 

CMP  Yes,  we  didn't  get  some  of  the  ones  up  ajround 

La  Hire.     We'll  get  those  next  time  around. 

CC  How's  the  pictures  going,  Ron? 

CMP  Okay,  we  got  -  The  pictures  are  over.     And  that's 

Lunar  Orbit  Chart  Delta.     It  doesn't  have  anything 
on  it ,  you  know  -  - 

CC  Okay,  we'll   


Tape  139/16 


CMP    It's  the  circles  on  it,  but  it  doesn't  have 

any  of  the  -  - 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


We'll  -  We'll  schedule  it  up  -  all  the  fli  -  all 
the  updates  on  that.    After  you  go  LOS  we'll  figure 
out  some  convenient  time  to  read  them  up  to  you  on 
there,.  Ron.     I've  got  a  -  I've  got  the  Flight 
Plan  


Okay,  and  we're  ready  to  continue  the  Flight  Plan. 
CC  Okay.     211:08,  211:08. 

CMP  Okay.     We're  all  set. 

CC  Ron,  just  one  comment  before  we  start  the  Flight 

Plan.     You've  got  a  52  coming  up  and  we  want  to 
make  sure  that  gets  done  prior  to  the  VERB  U9 
maneuver  at  210:30.     And  there  is  no  slack  on  that 
VERB  h9  maneuver  at  210:30.     So  you'll  have  to  get 
on  to  the  52  at  about  20,  but  we  shoiild  have  enough 
time    to  get  the  rest  of  these  updates  up. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  at  211 :08  delete  the  lines:  Mapping 

camera  -  OFF,  wait  30  seconds,  mapping  camera  - 
STANDBY,  image  motion  -  OFF,  and  laser  altimeter  - 
OFF.    Delete  those  lines. 

CMP  Okay,  they're  deleted. 


Okay,  at  211:11,  change  the  RECEIVE  ONLY  ATTITUDE 
to  the  following:    roll,  039,  pitch  159,  yaw  300. 

Okay  at  211:11,  VERB  I+9  will  be  to  039,  159,  and 
300. 


08  15  31  52    CC  Okay.     At  211:26  we're  going  to  do  a  P20  maneuver. 

It's  going  to  be  a  rolling  P20  which  will  roll 
about  the  OMNI  Bravo  line-of-sight  to  the  Earth. 
We'll  need  high  bit  rate  during  that  time.  That^'s 
why  we  need  the  -  line  of  Bravo.     And  we're  doing 
the  Earth  study  of  -  with  the  -  with  the  lunar 
sounder  to  determine  the  polarization  of  the  noise 
from  the  Earth  so  we  can  subtract  it  out  of  our 
data.    And  during  these  maneuvers,  you're  going 


Tape  139/1? 


to  see  a  middle  gimbal  angle  of  plus  or  minus 
65  degrees.    ¥e  saw  that  on  the  -  on  the  simulator, 
but  a  word  of  caution  on  that.     You'll  see  a  middle 
gimbal  angle  of  plus  or  minus  65  degrees. 

CC  The  P2a  maneuver  is  as  follows:     at  211:26,  P20 

option  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CC    P20  option  2,  HF  scan,  NOUN  78,  plus  270.00, 

minus  039-30;  NOUN  79,  minus  0.3000,  plus  000. 50; 
NOUN  3^  is  all  zeros. 

CMP  Hold  it  there.  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  Roger. 

CMP  Let  me  get  -  I  got  your  NOUN,  -  I  got  fouled  up  in 

the  NOUN  78s.     Option,  I'm  going  to  need  two  of 
those,  so  it's  NOUN  78  is  plus  27O.OO  and  a  minus 
039.30.     Okay,  your  NOUN  79 's  now  are  -  are  say 
again. 

CC  Minus  0.3000.     And  now  for  other  NOUN  39   

CMP  Okay,  0.3  of  a  degree  per  second. 

CC  Rog,  and  0.5,  0.5  -  half  a  degree  dead  band. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And,  NOUN  3hs  are  all  zeros. 

CMP  Okay,  so  you're  going  to  PRO  at  211:26  then, 

right , 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  this  next  one  -  actually  we're  caliinK 

it  212:20,  but  the  simulator  cajne  out  at  212:l8:U0, 
just  for  information.     And  it's  the  following: 
Stop  scan  at  roll  039- 


CMP 


Okay.     Stop  scan  at  roll  039- 


Tape  139/18 


CC 


cc 


CC 


cc 


CMP 


CMP 


Rog,  VERB  U9  maneuver  to  lunar  sounder  RECEIVE 
ONLY  attitude.    Roll  lk2,  pitch  286,  yaw  zero. 


CMP  Okay.     VERB  kg,  limar  sounder  RECEIVE  ONLY, 

roll  lk2,  pitch  286,  yaw  zero. 


Okay,  and  then  the  last  one  is  213:03.  Configure 
the  DSE  high  "bit  rate  RECORD/FORWARD /COMMAND  RESET. 


CMP  Okay.     At  213  -  was  that  03? 

CC  03,  that's  affirm. 

CMP  Configure  DSE  high  bit  rate  RECORD /FORWARD /COMMAND. 

Okay. 

CC  Okay  - 

CMP  For  the  high  "bit  rate,  RECORD /FORWARD /COMMAND 

RESET. 


Ron,  we'll  be  -  No  more  Flight  Plan  updates  we 
promise  today  and  we'll  be  working  --  - 


CMP  (Laughter) 


  map  Delta  and  getting  that  updated  to  you, 

but  everybody  here  thinks  there's  two  maps  on 
board  and  I  think  you're  right.     I  think  there's 
only  one,  isn't  there. 


08  15  36  52    CMP  Oh  really.     Is  that  so? 

CC  FAO  thinks  there  are  two   


  Oh,  wait  a  minute.     Jack  said  they  put  an 

extra  one  -  Okay,  well,  there  were  two.  Jack  just 
said  he  had  one  put  on  for  him. 


CC  Okay. 


I  must  have  picked  his  up  or  something. 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  xMine  must  be  in  there  then,  somewhere.     We'll  look 

for  it. 


Tape  139/19 


CC 


Okay,  if  you'll  check  that  and  tell  us  if  we  need 
to  update  you.    We'll  still  plan  to  update,  hut  if 
you've  got  it,  fine. 


CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  it  looks  like  you  ought  to  he  getting  in  your 

P52  when  you  get  a  chance  here. 

CMP  Yes,  I'll  get  her  down  here.     (Humming)  Can't 

tell  about  these  geologists.     They  put  on  extra 
maps  in  your  spacecraft  and  things  like  that, 
you  know.     Yes,  I  get  -  I  gave- you  the  last  frame 
numher  on  that  Romeo  Romeo,  hut  I  think  I  forgot 
to  tell  you  the  one  after  the  -  the  other  one. 
Oh,  by  the  way,  on  the  other  one,  Agasslz  was  com- 
pletely in  the  darkness  and  there  was  no  crater 
rim  at  all  to  shine  down  on  Agassiz  so  we  didn't 
get  him  at  all. 

CC  We  copy  that. 

CMP  Oh,  are  we  in  P20?     Go  to  FREE.     We  use  to  be  in 

20  -  P20  -  We'll  get  hack  into  P20.     Hot  much, 
but  that's  all  right. 

CMP  They  go  right  along  here.     I  have  them  right  along 

here  and  shove  them  down  over  there  is  what  they 
used  to  do  with  them.  They  haven't  called.  Get 
into  AUTO  now,  CMC  AUTO. 

08  15  39  30    CMP  Okay,  are  we  at  -  that's  going  and  everjrbhing. 

Okay,  go  CMC  FREE  now.     Okay.     That's  my  fault. 
Gene,  I  should  have  gotten  it.     (Laughter)  That's 
right  -  number  12  Rigel.     Hey,  I  can  find  Rigel 
I  bet  you.     There  she  comes.     There's  Orion.  Man, 
oh  man,  I've  done  P52  only,  and  it's  within  the  - 
within  a  half  of  a  crosshair  width.     Come  on, 
Alphard.     Ah,  ha!     There's  Alphard  -  for  rev  62. 
Come  on  in  there,  baby.     Well,  up  to  my  usual 
tricks  (laughter).    Ah,  12  and  21  -  stars  12  and 
21.     Star  angle  difference,  5  balls. 

08  15  h2  21    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     There's  the  NOUN  93s. 

CC  Roger.     We  copied  them  down. 


Tape  139/20 


CMP  Okay,  and  we'll  torque  them  at  22:45. 

CC  We  copy. 

CMP  Okay. 

08  15  k2  56    CMP  Okay.     Give  us  the  AUTO  now. 

CMP  Okay. 


CMP 


CC 
CMP 


CMP 

CC 

CMP 

CC 


LMP 


CC 


Okay,  just  a  second.  Gene,  let  me  look  at  it.  See 
resolve  -  Power  is  OFF.     Do  the  old  optics?  Yes. 
I  think  -  (Laughter)    Outstanding  idea  -  having  a 
great  drink.     (Laughter)    Okay,  2k.    Done  that. 
Doesn't  matter.  Okay. 


CMP  Houston,  America. 


Say  -  say  again. 

Okay.     Hey,  Bob,  how  many  frames  of  mag  RR  do  we 
have  to  diddle  with?    Kind  of  our  own,  or  are  there 
any? 

CC  That's  in  work  right  now. 


Okay.    Aha,  here's  another  chart  D. 

I  do  owe  you  a  consumables  status  yet ,  and  -  - 

Who  knows  -  It's  got  all  stuff  in  it.     Hey,  do 
we  -  we  have  a  good  chart  Delta. 

Okay.    Good.    Great.     I  owe  you  a  consumables 
status,  and  when  you  woke  up,  you  were  right  on 
the  Flight  Plan  line,  and  you  had  53  percent  re- 
maining of  RCS.    And,  all  other  consumables  are 
on  the  line  or  above. 


CMP  Okay. 


Hey,  Bob.    Sorry  we  didn't  let  you  get  that  in. 
We're  not  moving  too  fast  for  you,  <ire  we? 
(Laughter) 

Ron,  you  have  zero  spares  on  RR.  Ko  -  no  film 
available  for  yourself  on  RR. 


Tape  139/21 


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LMP 

CMP 

CC 

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08  15  i+T  CDR 
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CC 

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Oh,  okay.  We'll   

Hey  -  hey,  Bot,  this  is    Jack.     If  you  could  pos- 
sibly swing  it,  I  -would  strongly  recommend  that  we 
let  Ron  redo  that  last  terminator  sequence  if  we 
can  work  it  in  the  Flight  Plan,  because  Gene  and 
I    may  or  may  not  have  done  what  you  wanted  there , 
and  I  know  we  missed  the  first  couple  of  them. 

I'll  -  I'll  use  the  35-millimeter.     I  still  got 
about  8  or  10  frames  on  the  35   

Okay,  we'll  take  that  word  under  advisement,  and 
we'll  evaluate  it. 

(Laughter ) 

Thank  you.    We  may  have  to  send  you  to  the  U.N. 
with  that  diplomacy. 

Thanks  a  lot  for  your  confidence,  Geno  [sic]. 
(Laughter) 

Glad  to  hear  your  voice  down  there,  boss  -  Admiral. 
Okay,  Houston.     Mapping  camera  is  OFF. 
Roger,  Ron. 

Okay,  we  sug  -  suggest  you  start  that  VERB  U9 
maneuver  at  210:30,  or  you'll  be  behind  the  eight- 
ball  there  on  time. 

Okay,  image  motion  is  coming  OFF.  Laser  altimeter 
is  coming  OFF. 

America,  Houston.     You're  looking  real  good  here 
coming  up  to  LOS,  and  we'll  see  you  at  211:22. 
You're  looking  good. 

Okay.     Will  do. 


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Tape  li+0/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GEOIHJD  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTIOK 

08  Id  1+2  51    CMP  (Music)  Hey,  Houston;  America  here. 

CC  Hey,  America;  Houston  here. 

CMP  Hi ,  Gordo .    Good  morning . 

CC  It's  afternoon  -  right,  afternoon. 

CMP  Well,  we  want  to  PRO  on  that  at  26.     -  20  roll 

about  OMHI  Bravo. 

SC  Oh,  that's  .  , . 

CMP  Yes,  that's  Earth  study  ...  limar  soumder  and  the 

middle  gimbal  -  - 

SC 

CMP  -  -  plus  or  minus  65. 

SC 

CMP  ■  No. 

SC 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CMP  Yes.     How's  the  weather  heen  there  today,  Gordo? 

(Music  in  backgrotind) 

CC  America,  Houston.     I  missed  your  last,  if  that  was 

for  me. 

CMP  Yes.    Just  checking  to  see  hov  the  weather  was 

doing  there  in  Houston  before  you  came  into  work. 

CC  Oh,  it's  kind  of  -  hunch  of  high  clouds  -  cirrus, 

I  guess,  -  "but  it's  down  around  35,  I'd  say,  and 


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CMP 

CC 

CMP 

CC 

CMP 

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CMP 

CDE 

CC 

CC 

08  16  1+7  12  CMP 


CDR 
CC 


and  pretty  windy.     So  it's  nippy  when  you're 
outside. 

And,  Ho-uston,  how's  my  hiomed  looking? 
About  10  seconds  to  your  PRO. 
Okay;  thank  you. 

America,  we'd  like  the  IR  COVER,  CLOSED   

Oh ,  and  away  we  go . 

-  -  and  I  think  there  might  be  a  chance  the  Sun 
will  get  in  it  there. 

Okay. 

Okay,  Gordy.     And  we're  rolling           -  - 

Barber  pole,  gray. 


Okay. 

Ron,  your  EKG  looks  good.     The  Surgeon  wondered 
how  the  irritation  that  you  had  mentioned,  because 
of  the  sensors,  is  -  is  it  getting  any  better? 

Well,  it's  -  yes,  it  gets  better  when  you  take 
them  off  and  leave  it  off  for  a  while  and  I  put 
the  cream  on  it.     And  looks  like  it  lasts  for  about 
a  day.     You  know  every  time  I  put  it  on.     I  put  it 
on  at  a  different  spot.     And  it  ta±es  about  a  day 
for  it  to  get  red  and  irritated. 

And,  Gordo,  for  information,  that's  not  unique; 
we're  all  having  that,  and  taking  them  off  is  the 
best  relief  for  it. 

Okay. 


Tape  lUo/3 


CC  America,  I've  got  some  words  about  what  you  might 

use  for  optional  cur  [?]  optional  photographs. 
Over. 

CMP  Okay,  yes,  let's  write  it  down  there  in  the  -  why 

don't  you  write  it  on  the  back  page,  or  something 
like  that,  so  we'll  know  where  it  is . 

CMP  Okay.     (Music  in  background)    Ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay.    Magazine  RR  has  no  spare  frames.     So  if  you 

want  to  take  any  photos,  we  are  suggesting  using 
the-DAC  and  the  75-mm  lens  and  using  JJ  which  is 
very  high-speed  black  and  white.  Ninety-eight 
percent  of  J J  is  xmscheduled.     Here  are  some  set- 
tings you  might  use  for  terminator  photographs  over 
mare.     Use  T2.8,  1/500,  and  infinity.     For  termin- 
ator over  highlands,  use  tU,  1/500,  and  infinity. 
And  for  Tsiolkovsky  on  rev  7^  that's  GET  of  232:58; 
that's  sometime  in  the  futiire  here  -  we're  sug- 
gesting using  T5.6,  1/500,  and  infinity.  Over. 

08  l6  50  23    LMP  Okay,  Gordo,  what  was  the  f-stop  for  the  highlands 

terminator? 

CC  Okay,  the  highlands  terminator  would  be  1'h .  1 

guess  that's  the  far-side  terminator,  and  the  near- 
side terminator  is  over  mare.  That's  the  mare  set- 
ting. 

LMP  Okay . 

08  l6  53  19     IMP  Hello,  Houston;  America.     Is  today  Friday  down 

there? 

CC  America,  Houston.     I'm  sorry.     Say  again,  please. 


IXP 


Just  wondering,  Gordo,  if  today  is  Friday, 


CC  That's  affirmative.     It's  Friday. 


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IMP  Okay,  thank  you. 

08  16  53  50     CC  Happens  to  be  pay  day.     It's  the  15th. 

CC  Jack,  Ho-uston.    We  see  no  need  for  you  to  wear 

any  of  your  hiomed  sensors;  if  you'd  rather  take 
them  off,  give  your  skin  a  rest,  feel  free. 

08  16  58  1+9    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     I've  done  that.     And  I'll  wait 

till  my  next  time  and  put  them  on  then. 

CC  Okay. 
08  IT  01  36    LMP  Gordy,  how  do  you  read  IMP? 

CC  You're  loud  and  clear.  Jack. 

IMP  While  we're  in  a  relatively  quiet  period,  we're 

going  to  make  a  few  comments  about  some  of  the 
things  that  cross  the  two  big  basins  that  we're 
getting  very  familiar  with  -  or,  actually,  three: 
Smythii,  Ori  -  Smythii,  Crisium,  and  Serenitatis  - 
and  the  degradation  of  the  balls  of  the  major  ring 
and  the  lack  of  any  obvioiJis  blanket  structures  , 
I  think,    in  contrast  to  Imbrium  and  Orientale  , 
which  we've  also  had  a  pretty  good  look  at  - 
Orientale  and  Earthshine,  on  the  earlier  revs  - 
is  quite  striking  -  that  contrast  is  quite  striking 

-  to  me,  at  any  rate.     Also,  within  Orientale,  the 

-  at  least  at  the  southeast  -  on  the  east-south- 
east portions  of  the  mare  floor,  the  wrinkle- 
ridge  system  is  not  nearly  as  well  developed; 
but  there  is  a  wrinkle-ridge  system  that  roughly 
forms  an  inner  floor  ring,  at  any  rate. 


CC  Roger. 

LMP  The  fronts  of  the  major  ring  in  Crisium  are  strik- 

ingly different  than  those  of  the  Apennines  just 
in  their  general  slopes;  sharpness  of  topographical 
feat;ires;  and  in  any  appearance  of  having  even  a 
hint  of  boulder  fields  on  their  slopes  like  we 
observed,  say,  on  the  South  Massif,  anything  like 
that.     At  least  Serenitatis  massifs  seem  to  locally 
show  fairly  major  boulder  fields  on  their  flanks. 
And  I  haven't  seen  any  around  CrisluK  yet.  Maybe 


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Ron's  already  talked  to  you  about  that,  but  I 
haven't  seen  any. 

CC  Okay. 

IMP  Yes.     The  craters  now.     I'm  speaking  of  the,  Ron, 

of  the  front  faces  themselves ,  the  rim  -  the  face 
of  the  ring  itself. 

CMP  Oh,  I  see.    The  face  of  the  ring  itself  -  okay; 

that's  what  you're  talking  about. 

MP  Yes,  yes.     No  it  -  a  crater  -  a  fresh  crater  in 

the  mare  or  a  fresh  crater  in  the  blahket  area  - 
rim  area  -  will  have  boulders,  Gordy ;  don't  mis- 
understand me.     But  the  front  faces  -  the  ring 
front  face  does  not  have  boulders  -  that  I  can 
see.     And  I  think  boulders  are  pretty  obvious 
when  they're  there.    We've  seen  them  well  defined 
on  the  central  peaks  of  Tsiolkovsky,  and  I  think 
any  time  you  have  a  major  boulder  popu  -  field, 
you  can  see  it  with  the  monocular  -  with  the 
10-power  monocular. 


CC  Roger. 

08  IT  05  28    IMP  Getting  into  areas  that  resemble,  in  their  surface 

texture,  the  Sculptured  Hills  of  the  Taurus- Li ttrow 
landing  area,  here  we're  just  passing  -  Now  where 
are  we?  -  that  would  be  (laughter)  I  got  disorien- 
ted all  of  the  sudden.     Proclus  is  there,  so  if's 
in  the  ray-excluded  zone  of  Proclus  where  there  is 
a  mare  surface  projecting  up  into  terrain  that 
looks  like  Sculptured  Hills.    And  that  mare  has 
a  distinct  bluish-gray  color,  in  contrast  to  the 
regolith  associated  with  the  Sculpt\ired  Hills  - 
between  the  aills  at  least  -  which  is  a  brown  - 
let's  call  it  a  tannish  gray.     Quite  a  sharp  color 
hue  contrast  to  my  eyes,  at  any  rate. 

CC  Roger. 

08  17  06  55    LMP  Okay.  _That  was  a  projection  of  Fecunditatis 

Mare,  1  guess,  up  into  there.  Sculptured  Hills 
xend  to  have  both  a  regional  distribution  and  a 


Tape  iUO/6 


structiorally  controlled  distribut:.on ,  the  struc- 
turally -  structwal  control  "being  apparently  re- 
lated to  the  rims  of  -  of  old  craters.     For  example, 
there  are  seme  Sculptured-Hills-appearing  topo- 
graphic materials  that  -  again,  in  the  ray-excluded 
zone,  but  out  in  Fecxmditatis  -  we;  find  the  rim  of 
a  fairly  large  flooded  crater  -  in  Fecunditatis . 
And  all  of  this  may  tie  in  with  the  possible  - 
possibility  that  we  saw  at  the  landing  site,  that 
Sculptiired  Hills  are  composed  of  sin  igneous  gab- 
broic  rock.     And  these  may  represent  local  intru- 
sions controlled  by  the  structure  of  an  old  impact 
crater  -  extrusions  controlled  by  the  structure 
of  the  old  impact  crater, 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  I've  noticed  -  now  I'm  getting  a  good  view  of 

where  in  Fecunditatis  there  is  a  tannish  -  or 
let's  call  it  more  of  a  brownish-gray  mare  in 
contrast  to  bluish-gray  mare  in  Fecunditatis  it- 
self. 


CC  Roger. 


IMP 


And  in  the  walls  of  some  -  of  a  large  crater  - 
I'll  try  to  figure  out  which  one  it  is  in  a  minute. 
It's  near  the  large  crater  that  the  Scialpt\ared 
Hills  define  you  can  see  in  the  east  wall  -  or 
maybe  northeast  wall  of  that  crater  -  an  area  of 
bluish-gray  -  material  that  is  streaking  the 
normal  tan-gray  of  that  crater  wall. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  This  is  a  kind  of  one-sided  discussion.     I  wish 

was  there  so  I  could  take  a  more  active  part. 

08  17  10  12     I^MP  lhat's  all  right.     I  just  thought  I'd  fill  in  a 

few  things.     This  isn't  a  good  viewing  attitude 
at  all,  and  we  get  a  few  isolated  views  that  may 
be  worth  commenting  on.     The  contrast,  in  my  eye 
anyway ,  between  the  three  color  units  around  the 
landing  site  is  a  -  let's  call  it  a  mediuai  bluish 
gray  to  gray  for  the  dark  mantle;  a  lighx  blue-gray 


Tape  ll+O/T 


for  the  annulus  around  Serenitatis;  and,  then,  a 
tan-gray  for  the  Serenitatis  Mare  proper.     And,  in 
Dawes,  you  can  see  -  I  think  you  can  see  that  the 
overturned  -  or  the  -  the  rim  materials  are  made 
up  of  the  brownish-gray  material,  and  the  walls 
underneath  those  rims  are  the  bluish-gray,  which 
is  the  age  relationship  suggested  by  topography. 
That'd  be  the  over  -  lower  unit  is  forming  the  rim 
with  inverted  stratigraphy. 

CC  Roger. 

liMP  The  light  blue-gray  anmolus  is  also  the  locus  of 

most  of  the  circumferential  grab ens ,  that  Seren- 
itatis is  noted  for,  is  in  that  area.     And  that's 
nothing  new.     But,  in  one  place,  there's  a  very 
subdued,  flooded  crater  which  seems  to  control  a  - 
a  -  arcuate  projection  -  or,  let's  say,  a  circular 
projection  -  of  the  light  blue-gray  out  over  the 
tan-gray  mare.    Most  of  the  major  wrinkle-ridge 
system  of  Serenitatis,  of  course,  is  outside  the 
annulus  of  blue-gray,  except  locally,  and  one  of 
those  places  was  in  the  -  to  the  west  of  the  Taurus- 
Littrow  site.     Although  that  wrinkle-ridge  system 
does  -  I  can  see  now,  as  we  look  south  of  Seren  - 
in  the  southern  portions  of  Serenitatis  that 
wrinkle-ridge  system  does  cross  the  contact  between 
the  blue-gray  and  the  tan-gray.     That's  the  light 
blue-gray  and  the  tan-gray. 

CC  Okay. 

08  IT  13  15    IM=  The  impression  I've  had  in  looking  at  all  the  mare 

where  the  wrinkle-ridge  systems  are  developed  is 
that  they're  a  late  feature.     They  -  at  least  at 
low  Sun,  and  sometimes  even  at  high  Sun  -  they 
have  a  very  -  very  sharply  defined  ridges  with 
steep  slopes  on  either  side  that  seem  -  that,  in 
general,  give  me  the  impression  that  they're  con- 
structional, possibly  associated  with  some  thrust- 
ing movement . 

LMP  In  the  vicinity  of  Sulpicius  GalluB ,  there  are 

several  small  craters  that  look  like  impact  craters 
that  5  believe  it  or  not ,  have  -  in  my  eye ,  aiiyway  - 
orange  ejecta  blankets . 


Tape  lkO/& 


CC  Roger. 


^MP  Yes      Ron  says  that  he  -  that  he  already  commented 

on  those,  and  they're  -  and  they  look  very  obvious 
to  me.     No,  I  -  I  don't  -  no.     I  don't  think  you 
can  with  those  windows.    We'll  get  a  good  view  of 
them  again  in  one  of  the  other  attitudes. 

LMP  It's  a  light  orange,  ohvi-ously,  not  a  -  that  it 

but  It  s  m  contrast  to  the  brown-gray  of  the  dark 
mantle  m  the  vicinity  of  Sulpicius  Gallus .  There's 
a  good  one  right  down  there.     Now,  that  one  looks 
like  a  constructional  cone  that's  orangish.  And 
that's  right  out  on  a  raised  projection  of  the  - 
of  the  brown-gray  dark  mantle  out  onto  the  -  out 
onto  the  light  blue-gray  aimulus  material. 

08  IT  16  06    LMP  This  southern  and  southwestern  portion  of  Seren- 

itatis  has  a  general  appearance  o:r  the  Sculptured 
Hills,  although  the  individual  hiLls  seem  to  be 
more  widely  spaced  than  around  Taurus- Litt row 
Once  again,  historically,  we're  passing  over  the 
landing  site  of  Apollo  -  or  near  the  landing  site 
of  Apollo  15.  6 

IM>  Tell  Dave  Scott  that  the  north  complex  looks  just 

as  interesting  as  it  ever  didj     It's  going  to  re- 
main with  Emory  crater  as  one  of  the  unknowns  of 
the  space  program  for  a  while,  I  guess. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Hey,  Gordo,  I've  been  looking  at  the  landing  site 

off  and  on  the  last  few  revs,  and  I'd  like  to  get  - 
now  that  we've  been  there  and  back  -  your  best 
guess  of  the  exact  position  of  what  you  think  we 
lanaed,  because  I  think  I've  got  it  pinpointed 
pretty  much  so  from  here. 


CC 
LMP 


Okay.     Stand  by  1. 

This  is  one  of  the  first  opportuni-;ies  that  I've 
nad  to  look  closely  at  Archimedes,  which  is  one  of 
those  craters  that,  in  the  early  days  of  the  lunar 


Tape  11+0/9 


mapping  program,  helped  establish  some  of  the  ftmda- 
mental  age  relationships  "between  the  various  -anits 
that  were  visible  in  the  Earth-based  photography. 
In  this  particiilar  case,  it  related  to  the  sequence 
of  events  that  created  Imbrium,  cratered  it,  and 
then  flooded  it  with  mare.     And  Archimedes  is  a 
Goiiipletely  circular  -  closed  circle  as  a  crater, 
and  it  is  filled  with  mare.     And  it,  in  itself, 
is  superimposed  on  the  -  one  of  the  main  benches 
of  the  Imbrium  crater.     Now,  to  have  mare  filling 
that  crater  and  actually  filling  all  the  depressions 
of  approximately  the  same  level  in  the  vicinity  of 
a  mare  -  of  a  large  mare  region,  it's  one  of  the 
things  that's  suggested  to  many  people  that  rather 
than  single  sources  for  mare  lavas,  you  have  a 
multitude  of  sources  in  a  very  fractured  lunar 
crust.    The  ultimate  source  in  depth,  though,  is 
still  certainly  a  subject  for  controversy. 

Some  of  the  ridge  and  valley  structure  of  the 
Archimedes  impact  blanket  is  not  covered  by  mare 
and  extends  to  the  southeast  out  onto  the  Imbrium 
bench.     That  was  also  one  of  the  pieces  of  evi- 
dence used  in  those  early  days  of  photogeologic 
mapping  of  the  Moon.     You'll  have  to  excuse  the 
reminiscing,  Gordy. 

Roger. 

And,  Houston;  America.     Frame  150  -  151  and  152 
were  taken  of  the  Sulpicius  Gallus  region  with  a 
250  lens.     15I1  was  taken  at  D-Caldera,  and  that's 
magazine  Oscar  Oscar. 

Okay,  Ron, 

Gordy,  I  guess  it  was  the  crater  Bessel  in  Seren- 
itatis  that  Ron  and  I  were  looking  at  last  night. 
And  I  think  he  had  commented  on  being  layers  in 
the  ledges  that  were  visible  in  the  walls ,  and  I 
certainly  concur  with  that.     Although  we  could  not 
trace  layers  -  individual  layers  from  ledge  to 
Isdge,  within  a  coherent  ledge  the  layers  were 
traceable;  and,  in  one  case,  I'm  sure  I  could 
count  six  or  seven  ledges  -  sub  -  well,  layers 
within  single  ledges.     Reason  it  reminded  ne  of 
it  is  looking  a.z  Timocharis,  and  I  cannot  do  that 


Tape  li+0/10 


with  Timocharis ,     It  looks  like  it's  -  those 
ledges  -  any  ledges  that  may  have  "been  present  as 
a  result  of  the  Imbrium  Mare  have  since  disappeared 
by  weathering.    That's  limar  weathering,  of  course. 
Of  course,  down  here  in  the  Imbri\;m  -  southern 
Imbrium  -  is  one  of  the  better  regions  of  the  Moon 
to  observe  the  wrinkle-ridge  systems  or  mare  ridges, 
sometimes  they're  called.    And  it's  purely  that. 
They're  fairly  sharply  defined  -  quite  sharply 
defined  ridges  that  are  wrinkled  in  their  pattern  - 
sinuous  would  be  another  term.     And  with  sharply 
defined  slopes  on  either  side  of  the  ridge.  Some- 
times they  are  flat-top  ridges;  sometimes  they  are 
more  like  spines.     And  occasionally  you  see  them 
that  almost  appear  to  have  vertical  slopes  on  one 
wall  or  the  other.    The  whole  impression  that  I 
have,  anyway,  is  that  they  -  there  may  be  a 
combination  of  structure  and  folding  of  the  sur- 
face of  the  mare  -  Construction  on  the  surface 
and  folding  of  that  surface.     They're  particularly 
interesting  that  they  tend  to  -  wherever  there 
has  apparently  been  an  old  sub  -  flooded  crater  - 
Yes,  did  you  want  to  get  that  stuff?    They  seem  to 
be  controlled  by  the  shape  of  flooded  old  craters 
within  the  Imbrium  basin.     And  I  think  that's  a 
safe  conclusion,  because  you  get  the  standard  out- 
lines shown  by  the  rille  -  the  ridges;  excuse  me. 
Some  of  them  are  polygonal,  and  some  of  them  are 
qmte  circular. 

08  17  26  25    LMP  Ron,  did  you  want  to  get  these  ridges,  these  rilles 

south  of  Euler  here? 

CMP  Yes . 

LMP  Okay.     They're  coming  up. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC             Okay.     I  guess  the  last  team  promiaed  you  no  changes 
to  the  Flight  Plan,  but  they  didn't  say  anything 
about  changes  to  the  changes;  and  I've  got  one. 
At  15  minutes  from  now,  212:20   


Tape  lUo/11 


CDR  Can  you  stand  by  a  minute? 

CC    in  the  Flight  Plan.    Might  get  that  out,  and 

I'll  give  you  a  change. 

CMP  Keep  talking,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay.     At  212:20,  you're  to  stop  the  roll  at 

39  degrees  and  then  do  a  VERB  hS  to  ll+2.     And  we 
want  to  change  the" PITCH  to  268  and  zero.  That 
would  be  142,  268,  and  zero. 

CDR  Okay.     I  got  that  change.     And  you  want  that  about 

18  -  212:18? 

CC  I  -  have  to  check  back  here.     Yes,  I  guess  that's 

when  it  is, 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Also,  as  long  as  you've  got  the  book  and  a  pencil, 

let  me  give  you  a  few  other  one  liners . 

CDR  Yes,  I'm  ready  to  copy  them. 

CC  Okay.     Let's  see.    The  first  one  is  at  2ll+:55. 

And  they  want  to  add  after  that  other  stuff  just 
above  there  "UV  COVER  OPEN"  and  "IR  COVER  OPEN." 

CDR  Okay.    At  2lU:55,  you  want  UV  and  IR  COVERs  OPEN. 

08  17  28  27    CC  Roger.    Turn  the  page.    At  215:37,"-  215:37,  change 

magazine  November  November  to  Kilo  Kilo, 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  And  the  reason  I'm  so  slow  with  an  answer  on  that 

landing  site  position  is,  all  I've  got  it  in  is 
latitude  and  longitude;  and  I  assume  that  you  want 
it  in  good  coordinates,  for  your  reference.  One 
suggestion  here  was,  you  tell  us,  and  then  we'll 
confirm  your  guess.     I  Just  ran  across  an  other 
couple  updates,  too.     Back  to  213:15  in  the  Flight 
Plan,  I  can  give  you  the  lunar  sounder  pads  -  the 
two  of  them  on  that  page. 

CDR  Okay.     I'll  get  them.     Go  ahead. 


Tape  li+0/12 


Okay.    T-start  on  the  left-hand  one  there,  is 
213:20:10,  and  T-stop  is  213:2^:20.     Then  the  next 
one  is  T-start  of  213:^+1:40,  and  a  T-stop  of 
213:59:5^.  Over. 

Okay,  Gordo,  got  them  all.     They're  all  at  213  hours. 
Start  is  20:10;  stop,  2ii:20.     Start  is  l+lri+O,  and 
stop  is  59:5^. 


CC  Okay.     Good  readback. 

08  17  30  19     cm  And,  Gordo,  I  guess  my  hest  guess  after  looking 

down  there  from  here  is  -  I've  got  a  -  the  north- 
east chart  of  the  lunar  surface  traverse  . . .  And 
about  &k  point  -  correction,  about  83.3  and  about 
and  Delta  ...  point  5.  We're  right  on  the  top  of 
the  "o"  in  Poppy.  Looks  to  be  about  where  we 
landed. 


CC  Okay.    We  got  that. 

CDE  And,  in  thinking  back  about  what  iny  intentions 

were,  that  looks  like  probably  a  very  reasonable  - 
reasonable  suggestion.    And  the  first  thought  I 
had  about  being  close  to  Trident,  I  didn't  think 
I  was  anywhere  near  that  close.    And,  of  course, 
when  you  look  out  there  and  see  a  big  hole,  you 
don't  know  how  big  is  big  when  you're  down  there. 
That  big  hole  out  there  might  verj'"  easily  could 
have  been  Poppy  out  at  9  o'clock. 

CC  Okay,  Geno,  from  science  we  finally  got  it  to 

where  it  converted  to  your  map  coordinates ;  and 
their  guess  was  close.     Their  best  guess,  with  all 
the  data  considered,  is  83.2  and  DN  0.1  -  Delta 
November  0.1. 

LiMP  That  would  definitely  make  sense,  Geno  ...  


CMP 


That's  pretty  close  to  where  the  old  CMP  said  it 
the  first  rev  after  landing,  isn't  it? 

  north  of  where  we  put  the  ...     Remember,  uhat 

was  a  little  ways  away.  You  were  at  the  edge  of 
the  depression,  and -it  would  -  move  it  a  little. 


Tape  11+0/13 


08  17  32  11    CDR  Yes,  I'll  bijy  that.     That's  in  my  scatter.  And 

then  that  crater,  as  I  looked  out  at  9  o'clock, 
we  landed  next  to  was  actually  Poppy.    Pretty  sure 
that's  that  large  crater. 

CC  Okay. 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


LMP 


And,  Houston;  America.     On  mag  Yankee  Yankee  used 
frames  31  through  35  at  that  last  near-side  termin- 
ator there. 


CC  Okay,  Ron.     Got  that, 

08  17  35  22    CDR  Gordo,  I'm  Just  going  to  stop  this  maneuver  this 

time  aro-und  at  39  degrees. 


Okay,  Gene.     Say,  we've  got  one  question  for  Ron. 
We've  got  large  teams  of  engineers  trying  to  locate 
the  missing  scissors,  and  we  haven't  asked  you  in 
a  while  whether  you  might  have  found  them.  That 
might  save  them  a  lot  of  effort  down  here. 

No,  I  haven't  found  them  yet.     And  there's  a  lot 
of  room  underneath  these  CO^  absorbers  I  found  out 

the  other  night  because  I  lost  my  flashlight.  But 
it  kind  of  floated  out,  and  I  saw  it  every  once  in 
a  while.    And  we  found  the  flashlight  and  got  it 
back,  but  I  still  haven't  the  slightest  idea  where 
the  scissors  are. 

Gordo,  you  might  have  someone  hide  them  in  the  CSM 
and  send  a  backup  crew  down  to  the  Cape  and  see 
how  long  it  takes  them  to  find  them. 

Okay.     I'll  get  an  airplane  scheduled  up  right 
away. 

I  just  missed  39  degrees.     I'll  wait  for  it  next 
time  aroimd. 

B:r  the  way,  Gordy,  you  working  on  next  week's  air- 
plane schedule? 


CC  Yes ,  what  do  you  need?     You  mean  the  one  from 

Hawaii  back  or  something  like  that? 


Tape  ikO/lk 


Yes,  you  might  have  some  38s  waiting  for  us  in  LA; 
we  can  pick  them  up  there. 

Okay;  but  we'll  have  to  work  a  three-way  swap  with 
some  Skylab  troops  that  will  be  out  there.  And 
then  Deke  will  meet  you  in  Albuquerque  halfway 
back;  and  I'll  let  you  know  how  it  all  works  out. 


08  IT  37  09  IMP 


That  sounds  great.  That  sounds  like  easier  than 
usual. 


08  IT  h3  29  CDR 


Every  commander  has  the  right  to  change  his  mind. 


CDR 


And,  Gordy,  I'll  watch  the  cranapple. 


08  IT  hk  13  CC 


Okay,  Geno. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIOK 

08  IT  U8  52    CC  America,  Houston.     We're  starting  to  get  to  the 

margin  on  signal  strength  to  get  the  data  back. 
We  want  you  to  improve  that  hy  turning ■  S-Band  MODE, 
-  S-Band  NORMAL  MODE  VOICE  switch  to  OFF,  center, 
for  about  5  minutes. 

LMP  Say  again. 

CG  Okay,  Jack.    We'd  like  you  to  turn  the  S-BAUD 

HORMAL  MODE  VOICE  switch  to  OFF,  center,  for  about 
5  minutes  to  improve  our  signal  margin  as  you  ap- 
proach the  termin  -  the  LOS  here. 

08  17  kg  32    LMP  Okay.     OFF,  center,  for  5  minutes. 

08  17  5^  09     CO  America,  Houston.     Don't  bother  to  answer,  but 

we'd  like        tank  2  FAWS-OFF.     That's  hydrogen 

tank  2  FAES,  OFF. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Bravo.  America, 

Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Bravo. 

CC  America,  Houston,  you  can  turn  the  voice  back  on 

now.     Have  about  a  minute  and  a  hguLf  to  LOS  for 
a  final  goodbye. 

CMP  Okay.    This  is  America  with  a  goodbye  for  this 

pass . 

CC  Okay.     I  guess  the  real  reason  for  having  you  turn 

the  voice  switch  off  there  is  so  the  secretaries 
that  are  transcribing  the  air-to-ground  here  can 
catch  up  with  Jack. 

03  IT  5t  26    LI'^P  (Laughter)     I  don't  believe  it.     Yes,  I  do,  Okt^y. 

That's  all  you  ever  hear  from  me  again. 

08  16  17  XX  BEGIN  Umm  RBV  6h 


GS  13  k2  Go    SC  Yes. 


Tape  lUl/2 


LMP  Hey,  Ron,  do  you  want  me? 

CiMP  That's  right.    There  are  a  lot  of  those  with  a 

flat  floor.    Got  to  be  a  lava- type  thing  down 
there . 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Roger,  America.     Hello  once  again.     You've  got 

about  1  minute  to  T-stop. 

CDR  Okay.    We're  right  with  you,  Gordy. 

CMP  Okay.     T-stop  isn't  it   

CDR  ...  2U:20,  Ron. 

CMP  2U:20? 

CDR  ...  operation  STAMDBY. 

CMP  Standby.  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.    We're  coming  up  on  2ii:2Q.    Ttie  visual  of 

Tsiolkovsky  is  hopefully  pretty  much  recorded  on 
the  recorder. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  18,  19. 

08  16  kk  23    CMP  MARK  it  -  STAIIDBY.     ...  in  standby.     I  guess  the 

somewhat  -  a  veiy  small  summary,  anyhow,  of  the 
visual  of  Tsiolkovsky  concentrating  primarily  cr. 
the  flow  up  in  the  northeast  corner.     To  me,  znaX 
particular  piece  that's  fallen  down  in  the  era-car 
there  -  and  it's  on  one  of  the  pictures  - 
Tsiolkovsky,  i|  or  5.    The  piece  that  is  down  in 
the  crater  is  on  the  right-hand  side  of  ^he  page. 
And  that  portion,  you  know,  is  somewhat  of  a  mol- 
ten state.     It  looks  like  it  is  a  lEindslide  tha- 
has  slid  down  the  wall  of  the  crate 
fror.  the  -  well,  the  molten  state  cf  uiaterial, 
rough  -  rough-looking  material  that ' s  on  the  rin 
of  the  crater  Tsiolkovsky. 


Tape  l4l/3 


CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  lliere  seems  to  be  high  lava  marks  around  the  vest- 

em  and  northern  sides  of  the  central  peak.  For 
some  reason,  it's  not  evident  or  visible  on  the 
south  side  of  the  central  peak. 

CC  Okay. 

08  18  U6  21    CMP  Also,  there  seems  to  he  the  high  lava  marks  on 

the  raised  portion  of  the  floor  in  the  contact  "be- 
tween the  dark  material  on  the  floor  and  the 
lighter,  -  oh,  rough-looking  —  -  on  the  northern 
side  of  the  crater.     In  the  first  observation,  of 
the  mass  of  material  that  goes  out  into  the  crater 
Fermi,  the  -  It  looks  like  there  is  a  vhole  buuich 
of  craters  in  there  that  have  -  or  are  essentially 
rimless  craters.     However,  on  close  examination 
with  the  binocs,  I  couldn't  see  any  that  didn't 
have  at  least  a  slight  indication  of  a  rim.  The 
rims  that  were  on  them  were  essentially  very  sub- 
dued.    They  extended  out  to  about  -  oh,  a  half  a 
crater  diameter;  and  these  are  on  the  craters  in 
the  500  -  to  1000-meter  size.     I  didn't  get  a 
chan.ce  to  look  at  them,  looking  straight  down  the 
craters ,  to  see  if  there  was  any  depressions  or 
any  domes  or  any  type  of  a  structure  in  the  bot-com 
of  craters.     But  I  get  the  impression  that  they're 
-  primarily  all  look  -  just  of  cones  with  no  flat 
bottoms  at  all.     And  I'll  look  again  at  those 
things  when  we  go  by  there  next  time.     The  flow 
that  goes  down  into  Waterman  -  if  we  look  at  the 
pictures,  Tsiolkovsky  5  of  5  -  the  shadow  is  just 
about  in  the  same  area  on  this  one  as  it  is  on 
that  one,  and  I  didn't  take  a  chance  to  look  in 
that  one  unuil  I  got  to  the  vesx,  of  it.     So  I'll 
have  to  lookj  when  I'm  passing  it  frcn  the  nor^h 
side  of  Tsiolkovsky  looking  south,  to  see  what's 
down  in  the  shadow  area  there.     But  when  you'ra  on, 
the  west;  looking  back  across  it,  you  can't  see 
into  the     shadow.     But  the  material  tha"c's  ir;  "che 
floor  of  the  crater  Waterman  is  the  same  -zyze  of 
naterial  that  the  little  flow  on  the  northeast 
corner  has  broken  off  and  slid  down  in^o  its  o-A'-a 
xittle  crater. 


Okay.     Roger  that. 


So  I  guess  what  I'm  saying  is  that  essentially 
whatever  molten  material  that's  up  8.round  on  the 
rim  of  the  crater  Tsiolkovsky  has  been  -  well,  I 
want  to  say  extruded  -  not  extruded  but  pushed 
out,  I  guess,  away  from  the  crater  end  has  been  in 
a  semiliquid  or  semimolten  state  in  its  period  of 
deposition.    I'll  reserve  Judgement  on  some  of  the 
flat- floored,  flat-mare  filled  depressions  that  are 
around  the  crater  until  I  get  a  chance  to  look  at 
those  the  next  time  aroimd. 

Okay. 

Say,  Gordy,  something  that  struck  me,  -  something 
maybe  everyone  else  has  thought  about,  but  I  hadn't 
before.    At  the  southeast  corner  of  SnQTthii,  there 
was  a  relatively  large  -  several  lar-ge  somewhat 
subdued  craters  but  with  relatively  steep  sides 
to  them.    And  next  to  this  one  vas  a  very  small, 
white,  bright-haloed  crater.     And  I  watched  the 
rays  of  this  crater;  and  the  southeastern  rays 
draped  over  the  slopes  of  this  much  larger  sub- 
dued crater  -  draped  over  the  walls ,  all  the  way 
down  onto  the  floor.     And  as  they  draped  over  the 
walls,  they  obviously  gave  me  a  very  good  albedo 
change  from  the  darker  wall  to  the  very  much  light- 
er colored.     But  as  they  hit  the  floor  of  the  cra- 
ter, they  form  patterns  that  are  not  only  not 
unlike,  but  actually  very,  very  similar,  to  the 
light-mantled  area  that  we  have  been  referring  to 
as  a  possible  slide  back  at  Taurus-Littrow.  The 
patterns  as  they  drape  down  the  inner  slopes  of 
the  crater  and  onto  the  floor,  I  would  ce  willing 
to  bet  if  we  went  down  there  we'd  prooably  find 
the  same  type  of  things  we  found  at  Taurus-Littrow, 

Okay. 

By  that  I  mean  albedo  cneinges  that  we  can  see  hurt 
versus  to  what  we  can  see  down  there . 

'Roger.     Very  interesting. 

I  looked  for  these  type  of  -  looked  for  "chase  t^^pe 
of  '-an  patterns ,  where  the  rays  just  vent  out  or. 


Tape  1^1/5 


a  more  horizontal  plane.     You.  can  -  you.  can  find 
tliem  if  you  look  hard,  but  as  they  drape  over  the 
slopes  and  onto  the  more  level  floor,  they're 
very  obviously  alike. 

CG  Roger. 

CMP  Hey,  Houston. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay.     That  crater,  if  you  look  at  Smythii  1  of  1, 

and  the  crater  that's  right  ahove  the  rev  62 
there,  you  can  see  a  bright  spot  on  the  northwest 
portion  there.    And  that's  the  breach  zone  of  that 
particular  crater.     The  thing  that's  intriguing 
about  that  to  me  is  that  if  you  look  at  the  inner 
ring,  it's  a  gradual  slope  from  the  center  -  the 
center  of  the  crater  is  lover  than  the  secondary  - 
the  secondary  ring  around  the  thing. 


CC  Ron,  let  me  interrupt  here.     Say  the  name  of  the 

crater  you're  looking  at  again  in  Smythii. 

CMP  Okay,  in  Smythii.     And  -  Mare  Sirythii ,  1  of  1, 

that  -  that  picture  -  - 

CC  Roger.     I  -  have  got  it. 

CMP  And  right  about  where  it  says  rev  62.  Okay? 

CC  Okay;  gotcha. 

08  l6  3k  21    CMP  Now,  there's  two  -  there's  two  rings  in  -hex  pic- 


ture.    Okay.     The  inner  ring,  the  central  portion 
of  that  thing,  is  lower  and  slopes  ouward,  - 
radially  outward  -  to  the  first  ring.     /jTid  T^hen 
it  drops  off;  in  other  words,  it's  a  gradual  slope, 
■maybe  -  oh,  somewhere  in  the  15  to  2C  degree  slope 
upward  to  the  first  ring.     And  then  i-;; '  s  a  sreep 
slope  on  the  outside  of  the  ring,  at  about,  -  o.i, 
45  degrees,  dropping  down  into  the  annulus . 

GC  Okay. 


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08  18  55  21    CMP  Yes,  color?    With  250  lens.    Yes,  all  along.  I 

Just  took  it  today,  two  of  them,  -  three  of  them. 
Yes.    Yes.    Yes.     I  took  three  of  -:hem  the  last 
rev. 

LMP  Oordy,  this  is  the  LMP.     While  we're  waiting  for 

the  site  to  come  up  again  here,  which  seems  to 
interest  us  every  time  we  go  over  It,  I  think  we 
sort  of  came  to  a  general  concensus  on  the  problem 
of  the  smaller  cone-shaped  craters  on  the  far  side 
that  have  the  little  pool-like  concentrations  of 
material  in  the  bottom.     If  you  look  at  the  fresh- 
est of  those  craters,  the  -  that  seems  to  be  con- 
tiguous with  the  streaks  of  very  dsirk  material 
that  cover  the  walls  and  the  rim  of  the  fresh 
cone-shaped  craters.    As  the  crater  gets  older, 
that  material  -  that  distinction  becomes  less 
obvious;  however,  the  pool  remains,  and  all  you 
lose  is  the  dark  streaks  on  the  rim  and  on  the 
walls  of  the  crater.    I  think  we  sort  of  feel  - 
suspect  that  that  pool  in  the  bottom  of  the  fresh 
craters  is  just  the  concentrated  impact  melt  that 
-  some  of  which  is  -  stayed  there  during  the  im- 
pact and  other  which  drained  back  -  that  drained 
back  after  the  impact  from  the  -  drained  from  the 
walls.    And  then,  with  time,  that  pool  may  be 
subdued  some.    The  structures  in  it,  the  swirls 
and  little  domes  in  that  pool  are  subdued  possibly 
not  only  by  the  impact  but  by  debris,  slides,  and 
avalanches  off  the  walls  of  the  crater. 


LMP 


Okay,  Jack. 

It's  getting  to  be  a  very  consistent  pattern  when 
you  start  piecing  several  of  them  together, 

CC  Roger. 

08  16  58  h9    LMP  That  black  streaking  on  the  walls  ajid  the  olizi^ets, 

-  Ron  ma;y^  have  already  told  you,  bu"  it  is  char- 
acteristic of  only  the  very  freshes-.:  cf  those  cone- 
shaped  craters,  -  and  -  or  pool  cra-:ers ,  whichever 
you  varit  to  call  them.     And  it  seemi;  to  be  ver^y 
-ogicai  that  it  just  represents  a  thi^n  vineer  or. 
the  rim  and  the  walls  of  the  impacr-generated 


Tape  iHl/T 


glass.    And  it's  darkest,  presumably,  where  it's 
quenched;  and  the  pool  itself  is  somevhat  lighter 
gray  than  the  hlaclt  streaks  and  mantles. 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  know.  Jack,  I  get  the  impression  that  these 

bright  ones,  -  see  the  hright  one  right  down  there 
in  front  of  us  there,  -  if  you  look  at  those  with 
the  "binocs  or  with  the  -  I  get  the  impression  of 
a  dark  greenish-black  or  blackish-green.     In  other 
words,  I  get  a  green  -  - 


LMP  Creen  cast  to  the  rocks? 

CMP  Yes,  green  cast  to  the  rocks.    To  the  big  blocks, 

you  know,  that  are  laying  around  there  -  around 
the  crater  and  also  the  ones  that  are  down  -  down 
in  the  bottom. 


SC  Greenish  cast. 

CMP  That  greenish  cast  to  them. 

CMP  Yes,  it  is;  isn't  it.     I  can  see  that  with  the 

naked  eye.     That's  a  bright  one.     What's  -  I'm 
saying,  where  is  the  crater,  though?    Oh,  that's 
the  -  that's  Yerkes  and  -  okay.    You're  in  VOX. 


08  19  00  54    LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  we  got  another  orange-rimmed  crater. 

And  we'll  spot  it.    I  think  everybody  agreed.  And 
this  one  very  clearly  looks  like  an  impact  crater 
that  has  it's  -  let's  see,  we  decided  you're 
looking  north? 


CMP  Yes . 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  It's  north,  east,  and  west  quadrants  -  - 

CMP  Let  me  describe  it.     It's  Yerkes  and  ... 

CC  Hey,  you  got;  the  T-start  time  coming  up  .-.ere 

shortly  on  the  sounder. 


Tape  li4l/8 


CMP  Okay    ( laughter ) . 

CC  About  10  seconds. 

Quit  interrupting.     Okay.     We'll  get  i- 

CMP  What  time  is  it? 

LMP  We'll  hack  it  up  here,  Gordy. 

CMP  VERB  Ul  ... 

LMP  Thanks,  Gordy. 

CC  ...  now. 

CMP  Okay. 

08  19  01  I4 3    LMP  Sounder  is  OPERATE. 

CC  That  was  close. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

That  was  a  very  good  call.     Thank  you. 


CDR 


CMP  Thank  you. 


LMP 


No  sweat.    At  any  rate,  in  the  north,  east  and 
west  quadrants  of  that  little  crater  -  and  we'll 
spot  it  for  you  on  the  map,  is  a  -  very  clearly" 
an  orange  pattern  -  an  orange  color  to  the  ejecta. 
The  other  quadrant  is  a  lighter  color  -  a  ligh^ 
gray. 

CC  Okay. 

-■I?  If  I  had  a  map  -  .     Let's  see,  what  did  I  do  v:.-h 

ry  nap?    Wait  a  minute;  I  got  a  picture  of  tha^, 
I  think. 

^'I?  Rigr^t  here. 


OJP 


Xvo,  go  ahead  I  can't  see  the  landing  si^e,  ^yhcv, 
^  G.on  t  tniiik. 


Tape  lhl/9 


08  19  03  ^3    LMP  Gordy,        inrpression  from  Shorty  the  other  day, 

and  also  from  seeing  these  craters  that  seem  to 
have  orange  -  that  are  -  around  them,  that  look 
very  much  like  impact  craters  from  orbit ,  at  any 
rate  -  it  may  he  that  the  -  if  that  is  an  alter- 
ation phenomenon,  -  that  it's  heing  localized 
around  the  structure  created  by  the  impact.  But 
in  this  latter  case,  it  looks  as  if  the  impact 
itself  penetrated  into  a  zone  of  that  color. 

CC  Okay,  Jack. 

CMP  (Laughter)  yes. 

08  19  05  35    CMP  Are  we  going  to  use  your  - 

CMP  Here,  take  it  -  take  a  look  at  it.  Okay. 

CMP  Doesn't  show  up  that  way  today. 

CMP  Here,     The  color  - 

CMP  I  know.    That's  the  spot. 

CMP  Yes. 

08  19  08  19    CMP  Can't  see  it  anymore. 

CMP  Yes.     That's  a  good  view... 

08  19  10  19    CMP  They're  between  Tacquet  and  Mel-Mel-Melanes  [sic], 

aren't  they?    Yes.     I  see  them  ...     Okay.  Yes, 
little  bitty  ones.     They're  about  -  oh,  a  little 
bit  bigger  than  Shorty.    Yes.     Those  are  -  those 
are  the  ones  that  I  called  the  other  day.     It  was 
a  very,  very  light  tan.     I  guess  you  can  put  an 
orange  tint  to  them. 

LMP  Gordy,  to  put  orange  into  perspective j  -ax.  least 

as  far  as  the  LMPs  eyes  are  concerned  -  froir. 
orbit,  I  would  say  that  it's  a  orange-gray.  It's 
still  a  gray,  with  an  orange  hue  to  i- .     And  whan 
I  use  any  blue  or  tan  or  anything,  it's  a  hue  or, 
gray;  and  I'll  usually  try  to  say  gray  in  -chere. 
But  to  say  something's  orar^ge,  I  thn.r.>,  would  ba 
misleading.     It's  really  an  orange-gra;.,'",  but  it's 
clearly  a  distinct  hue. 


Okay.     Kind  of  like  dirty  beach  sand  with  a  little 
orange  in  it ,  hiih? 

Well,  we  can't  use  that  term  anymore.  That's 
copyrighted. 

Roger . 

Yes.    That's  right.    There  is.    That's  the  one. 
That's  the  area  where  I  was  trjring  to  talk  about. 
That's  just  north  of,  -  oh,  that's  Sulpicius 
Gallus.    No,  there's  a  gouge.  Just  -  yes,  north- 
west of  Sulpicius  Gallus  Crater.     Yes,  bet  I 
didn't  doubt  -  I  didn't  talk  about  that  thing. 
That's  a  -  I  thought  -  I  was  talking  about  the 
little  orange  crater.     Now  you  can  see  all  the 
colors  down  -  down  in  the  gouge  itself. 

Hey,  Ron.     We'll  spot  this  one  on  the  map,  too  - 
or  Gordy.     But  there's  a  large  gouge  just  south 
of  the  Sulpicius  Gallus  ridge.     The  gouge,  - 
it's  a  rimless  depression  -  and  streaming  down 
from  the  upper  portion  of  that  depression  are  not 
only  our  old  friend  the  orange-grays,  but  some 
would  be  a  red-brown  gray.    Ve:ry,  very  clear 
coloration  in  this  light,  in,  -  I  thirik,  - 
goodness.    There's  another  crater  we'll  have  to 
look  at . 

Yes.     There's  a  whole  bunch  of  them  down  there. 

Yes,  but  that's  something  in  the  wall  of  it  in 
that  area.     Yes,  it's  starting  -  (chuckle)  Man, 
we're  seeing  an  orange  Moon  now.     This  -  this 
whole  dark  mantle  in  here  arouiad  Sulpicius  C-allus  , 
-  they  are  -  they  are  scattered  craters  with 
variety  of  orange  to  red-brown  hues.     And  they 
all,  except  for  that  large  rim^Less  depression, 
which  looked,  -  looked  as  if  was  exposing  some  lay- 
ers which  were  streaming  those  color,  -  what  color 
debris  down  its  walls  -    All  the  other  craters 
seem  to  be  small  impacts  that  apparently  are 
penetrating  just  far  enough  in";o  the  dar.-:  nan-le 
materiaJ-  to  tap  this  zone  of  orange  i;o  red-brow.^ 
material. 


Tape  ll+l/ll 


08  19  15  hh    CMF  And  just  north  of  that  elongate  depression,  there 

is  another  circular  crater.    And  it  saso  is  pene- 
trating down  though  this  mantle  stuff.     And  it 
had  the  reds  and  the  browns  and  oranges  dipping 
down  it,  too. 


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Tape  ll+2/l 


APOLLO  17  AIE-TO-GROUKD  TRMSCRIPTION 


08  19  16  06    CDR  Hey,  Gordy,  just  so  you're  fully  aware,  we're 

not  sort  of  just  leaning  and  getting  color  "blind 
up  here,  I  tell  you,  last  one  Jack  vas  talking 
about  was  not  even  subtle.     It's  entire  ray  pat- 
tern was  this  same  color  material,  and  definite 
contact  between  it  and  the  dark  material  around 
it,  and  it  had  that  orange-brown  hue  to  it,  with- 
out any  question  at  all. 

ZC  Okay.     Very  interesting. 

CDR  It  really  is.     You  know  I  saw  that  dirt  day  before 

yesterday  at  Littrow,  but,  and  I  really  haven't 
seen  too  much  from  orbit  that  I'd  call  really 
very  distinct  in  color,  until  this  one.     But,  boy, 
there's  no  question  about  this  one. 

CG  Roger. 

CDR  And  we  pick  up  the  lunar  sounder  at  59:5^- 

CC  Okay,  I'll  try  to  watch  it  a  little  and  give  you 

a  little  more  warning,  too. 

CMP  Yes,  I  want  to  get  -  I  think  it's  right  in 

that  . . . 

CMP  Let  me  see . 

CMP  No,  here's  the  Sulpicius  Gallus .     No,  you're  up 

too  far,  you're  up  too  far.     It's  closer  to 
Sulpicius  Gallus.     Right  in  that  ridge  basin, 
right  in  there  on  the  red  line. 

CMP  And,  we'll  get  a  picture  of  it. 

CMP  Yes . 

ClStP  Yes . 

CMP  Okay.     Sorry,  riouston,  we  turned  that  one  OFF  aL 

the  -  minute  early. 

GC  Okay. 


Tape  1I+2/2 


CMP  We'll  pick  up  an  extra  minute  on  the  next  one. 

CC  Roger. 

08  19  20  01    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    RECORDER'S  going  OFF. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  Hey,  Gordo.     I  "better  make  this  no'^e  now.  What 

Jack  and  Ron  vere  talking  about  apparently  was 
an  elongated  depression.     I  was  talLking  about  in 
the  same  area,  and  I'm  trying  to  mj=Lrk  it  approxi- 
mately on  the  chart.     But  it  was  a  classic,  small, 
bright-haloed  crater.     The  classic  with  a  classic 
ejecta  and  everything.    Except  it  was  this 
orange-hued  crater.     It  was  not  bright-white.  But 
it  was  very  classic.    And,  as  I  said  earlier,  not 
subtle  at  all. 

08  19  20  U7     CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CC  America,  Houston.     I  have  a  TEI  for  rev  72  pad. 

No  hurry,  maybe  you  wEint  to  wait  until  sunset. 

CMP  Yes,  we'll  wait  until  sunset.  Okay? 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Houston,  16O  and  162  of  the  mag  Oscar  Oscar  were 

taken  from  the  north,  viewing  the  central  peaks 
of  Copernicus. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

08  19  23  42    CMP  It's  a  long  ways  away.     I  don't  know  if  it'll 

show  up  or  not .     It  might . 

CDR  Houston,  this  is  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     I'm  looking  ahead  -  I'm  trying  to 

stay  ahead  and  see  what's  happening  today  and 
tomorrow  in  the  Flight  Plan.     And  &lz's^o-<j^'n  this 
has  come  up  in  the  past,  we  haven't  said  anychir^g 
about  it.     You  know,  Ron  put  his  biomed  harness 


Tape  lk2/3 


on  a  couple  of  hours  ago,  and  he's  going  to  end 
up  wearing  it  a  total  of  6  hours.     Then,  all  of 
a  sudden,  when  we  make  a  change-over  again,  and 
I  put  ix  on  and  -  for  a  12-hour  period,  and  then 
we  change  again.    And  one  of  the  problems  up  here 
is  putting  these  things  on,  and  you'd  like  not  to 
leave  them  on  too  long,  but  once  you  get  them  on, 
you  like  to  make  use  of  them.     And  it's  a  problem, 
it's  time  consuming.     I'd  like  you  to  consider 
down  there  letting  Ron  wear  those  until  tomorrow 
morning,  having  me  change  over  then.     And  when 
EVA  time  comes,  we'll  take  special  consideration 
to  whatever  requirements  there  are . 

CC  Hey,  you  just  got  a  thumbs-up  on  that  from  the 

Surgeon . 

08  19  28  27    CDR  Okay,  very  good  thank  you. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Just  took  whatever  the  three  were 

before  39  on  mag  Yankee  Yankee  of  Euler ,  Tobias 
Mayer,  terminator  stuff. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    And  for  Jack,  the  Surgeon  says  he's 

getting  occasional  erratic  trace  from  Jack's 
biomed.     He  would  be  happy  if  Jack  wants  to  take 
it  clear  off. 

LI-IP  Gordy,  I  don't  know  how  to  tell  you  this,  but  I 

haven't  had  my  biomed  on  for  about  6  hours. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  haven't  even  had  zhe 

sensors  on. 

CC  Well,  we  nusz  be  copying  the  heartbeat  of  the 

America  or  something,  then. 

lMP  Mow  does  it.  look.     Maybe  we  ought  to  use  it 

i.nstead  of  mine. 

CC  America's  ticker  is  doing  fine  -  along  wixh 

everything  else. 

Cj?.  Okay,  Houston.     Th:Ls  is  -ftmerica.     I've  ,-_:o":  a. 

;hange  for  you  ii  you're  reacy  ^^o  ccpy . 


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CDR 

CC 

CDR 

CC 

CDR 

CC 
CDR 
CC 
CMP 

CC 
CDR 

CC 

08  19  31  5^  CMP 

CC 
Livl? 


Okay,  ready  to  copy. 

Okay,  if  you'll  turn  to  page  3-26  at  217:52. 


Okay,  go  ahead. 

You  can  delete  -  you  can 

Okay .     I ' ve  got  that . 

Okay.  If  you'll  turn  to 
out  LMP  and  put  CDR. 

Okay.    We  got  that. 


delete  both  those  steps . 


230:^4-0  -  you  can  cross 


Okay,  if  you'll  turn  the  page  -  turn  to  230:29. 
Okay. 

You  can  change  the  first  line,  cross  out  LMP  and 
put  CDR.    And  on  the  second  line,  you  can  cross 
out  CDR  and  put  CMP. 

Okay,  I  must  "be  on  the  wrong  page  -  did  you 
say  230:29?    Must  he  231:29,  okay,  got  you. 

231:29.     Cross  out  LMP  and  put  CDR  on  the  first 
line.     Cross  out  CDR  and  put  CMP.'. 

All  right. 

Okay,  and  we'll  further  update  you  as  the  mission 
progresses.     I  know  you're  pretty  busy,  and  we'll 
hold  any  Flight  Plan  updates  down  to  you  to  a 
minimum  from  up  here. 

Okay. 

Okay,  Gordy.    You  waxit  to  give  me  "SI  pad? 
There's  nothing  I'd  rather  do.     Ready  to  copy? 
Go  ahead. 


Tape  11+2/5 


03  19  35  53    CC  Okay.    It's  TEI  for  72,  SPS/O&N;  361+TT ;  plus  O.ol, 

plus  0.83;  NOUK  33  is  230:142:59-17;  I^OUX  8l, 
plus  2887. 1+,  minus  0339-^,  minus  0050.3;  179,  095, 
356;  rest  of  the  pad  is  NA.     GDC  stars  Sirius  and. 
Rigel;  136;  I6O;  03h.     Ullage  is  1+  jets,  12  sec- 
onds.    Remarks:     Assumes  ascent  REFSMMAT .  Over. 


LMP  Okay.     TEI72,  SPS/G&N;  361+77;  plus  O.6I,  plus  0.83; 

230:1+2:59.17;  plus  2887. 1+,  minus  0339. 1+,  minus 
0050.3;  179,  095,  356;  Sirius  and  Rigel;  136; 
160 ;  03I+.    Ullage  is  h  jets,  for  12  seconds,  and 
it  assumes  an  ascent  REFSMMAT.  Over. 


CC  Okay.     That's  a  good  read-hack.     Say,  have  a  little 

summary  of  -  hoth  the  surface  and  the  orbital 
scientific  equipment's  working.     It's  prohahly 
about  5  mimutes  worth.     If  there's  some  handy  time, 
I'll  be  glad  to  read  it  to  you. 

LMP  Right  now,  Gordo.    We'd  love  to  hear  it. 


08  19  38  35    CC  Okay.     Let  me  start  with  the  America's  gear  there. 

The  -  on  the  UV  spectrometer,  well,  actually 
having  to  do  with  UV.     During  -  back  dur;.ng  rev  38, 
they  sent  an  Aerobee  sounding  rocket  fron  White 
Sands,  up,  and  it  carried  a  UV  spectrometer  above 
the  atmosphere  and  successfully  acquired  solar  UV 
calibration  data.     Farside  terminator  shows  there 
is  a  hydrogen  atmosphere,  but  it  is  much  less  than 
had  been  predicted.    The  PI  is  very  happy  with 
the  mode  1+  maneuver.     On  the  IR  scanning  radiom- 
eter, it's  still  performing  beautifully,  and  the 
PI  is  getting  lots  of  high-quality  data,  and  I 
understand  is  ecstatic  about  it.     On  rev  33,  the 
crater  Kepler  C  showed  up  as  a  132-degree  Kelvin 
anomaly  on  a  9I+  degree  Kelvin  background  after 
11.6  days  of  lunar  night,  the  crater  Reiner  was 
a  similar  anomaly  on  that  revolution.     In  low 
orbit  on  rev  9,  Kepler  A  showed  a  broad  hoospcc 
corresponding  to  its  ejecta  blanket  wi^h  a  sharp 
spike  corresponaing  to  the  crater  in   una  cenuer. 
One  coidspot  anomaly  seems  to  correspond  to  a 
cinder  cone-like  feature  in  Mare  Orientale  near 
the  crater  Hohmann.     On  the  l-iinar  sounder,  teler.- 
etry  nonitoring  of  the  sounder's  average  reflected 
power  indica"ces  t"nat  the  mare  and  'nighlanc.3  e>i-.ib:iT, 
markedly  different  reflectivity,  both  h?  b.na  Vn? . 


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The  data  is  consistent  with  distinct  layering 
in  the  mare,  as  would  "be  expected,  where  the  mare 
flooded  hy  successive  layers  of  lava,  although, 
they  say  other  explanations  are  possible.  They 
don't  see  that  layering  -  indication  in  the 
highlands.     Predicted  topographic  signatures  over 
features  such  as  craters  and  mare  ridges  have 
been  confirmed  in  principal.     Of  course,  as  you 
know,  \mtil  they  get  the  film  back  they  don't 
have  -  they  can't  really  reach  any  definite  con- 
clusions.    On  the  cameras  -  the  cameras,  both 
cameras  and  the  laser  altimeter  all  appear  to  be 
performing  very  well.     And  everybody's  especially 
happy  with  the  solid  laser  altimeter  performance. 
Okay,  that  kind  of  sums  up  SIM  bay.     Do  you  have 
any  questions,  that  I  could  chase  down,  or  should 
I  go  on  with  surface  stuff? 

CDR  No,  why  don't  you  press  on. 

CMP  That  sounds  good  Gordo,  press  on. 

08  19  i+1  k6    CC  Okay.     On  the  surface,  the  heat  flow.     These  are  - 

these  are  little  short  summaries,  each  written  by 
the  Pis  or  co-Is  (sic)  on  each  experiment.  Mark 
reports  that  the  entire  heat  flow  system  is  work- 
ing perfectly.     The  probes  have  cooled  down  to  a 
temperature  of  -l6  degrees  C  at  a  depth  of 
2.3  meters,  and  are  nearly  at  their  final  tempera- 
ture,    for  comparison,  at  Hadley  Rille,  we  found 
a  -20  degree  C  at  1.5  meters  depth,  we  had  -  to 
refresh  your  memory  was  minus  l6  at  2.3.  Both 
probes  show  an  increase  of  temperature  with  depth, 
and  it  is  clear  that  we  will  get  a  valid  heat 
flow  measurement.     The  LEAM  is  functioning  prop- 
erly, responding  to  calibration,  and  sensors  show 
a  low  noise  figure.     The  LEAM  will  be  off  -0^1.11 
lunar  afternoon,  and  on,  with  sensors  covered, 
until  after  stJiset.     Otto  Berg  ask  that  you  ^..ccept 
his  thanks  and  appreciation.     On  the  LSG,  the 
sensor  beam  cannot  be  nulled  at  thi:i  "^^JT,e,  ir. 
spite  of  Jack's  efforts.     We  are  still  3tudy_n^ 
the  problem  and  hope  to  find  a  workarcuna.  In 
any  case,  the  instrument  does  function  tc  soi.'.e 
extent,  as  a  vertical  seismometer,  and  may  t^: 
useful  in  a  search  for  a  gravitatioiial  ra.aia";io:: 
from  pulsars.     The  LSPE  is  fully  operational,  LX 


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ascent  clearly  recorded  on  all  four  geopiiones . 
And  apparent  seismic  velocity  measured  across  the 
geophone  array  was  100  meters-per-second.  Rego- 
lith  velocity  was  very  close  to  that  measure  at 
the  Apollo  16  site.     The  LM  impact  was  clearly 
recorded  on  the  geophones,  and  the  estimated  dis- 
tance was  10  kilometers  away,  in  the  South  Missif, 
actually  very  close  to  the  targeted  point.  Al- 
though, I  guess  you've  discussed  this,  ve  didn't 
see  it  on  the  video.    The  first  charge  vent  off 
while  you  were  on  the  backside,  last  re's  and  it's 
very  apparent  on  the  tracers  which  I'm  nonitorlng 
right  now.     I  think  the  next  one's  due  sometime 
within  the  next  2  hours.     Okay,  the  lunar  mass 
spectrometer  -  the  low  voltage  circuits  of  the 
LMS  have  been  operated  briefly-     All  monitors 
indicate  the  proper  performance  of  the  instuments , 
but  application  of  high  voltages  will  await  lunar 
sT-inset,  when  both  the  analyzer  and  the  site  has 
had  time  to  outgas .    Temperature  of  the  radiator 
plate  is  slightly  above  nominal,  but  not  so  high 
as  to  be  even  important.     That  was  from  Dick  Hodges. 
Okay,  here's  a  little  summary  from  Dave  Strangway 
on  the  SEP.     He  starts  out  by  saying,  "Water,  water 
everywhere  and  plenty  to  be  found,"  because  you 
didn't  get  behind  the  time  line.     The  SEP  trans- 
mitter was  confirmed  to  be  working  well  at  the 
correct  power  level,  using  the  lunar  sounder.  The 
receiver  heated  well  above  predictions  dioring  the 
whole  mission,  as  I'm  sure  you  are  aware,  but  the 
two  prime  data  legs  were  operated  within  the  tem- 
perature limits  of  the  recorder,  and  we  have  no 
reason  to  doubt  that  we  got  good  data.     There  is 
also  a  good  chance  that  the  legs  on  station  h  zo 
the  LM  was  within  the  temperature  limits.  Your 
procedures  were  performed  excellently  and  we  look 
forward  to  processing  the  DSSA  tape.     Okay,  now 
to  -  let's  see,  we  got  TGE,  which  is  consicered  a 
spectac-olar  success.     The  Earth-Moon  t^ravity 
transfer  indicates  the  valve  of  -  won't  read  the 
numbers,  in  milligals  -  at  the  -  at  the  Tarrus- 
littrow  base.    But  the  value  will  be  used  to  obtain 
a  revised  value  for  the  lunar  radius  at  this  la.'.d- 
ing  site. 


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08  19  ^5  58    CC  Gravity  measurement  nade  during  the  three  EVAs 

showed  a  large  negative  anomaly  of  a^bout 
minus  38  milligals  at  the  base  of  the  South  Massif. 
A  similar  negative  anomaly  of  about  minus  30  at 
the  base  of  the  North  Massif.     Preliminary  con- 
clusions of  the  traverse  gravimeter  meas  -  TGE 
measurements  indicate  that  the  material  under  the 
valley  floor  of  Tarrus-Littrow  is  niuch  denser  than 
that  of  the  North  and  South  Massif.    The  gravity 
values  will  support  the  hypothesis  that  the  valley 
subfloor  consist  of  dense  basaltic  rocks,  perhaps 
as  much  as  3  or  1+  kilometers  in  thinkness.  The 
extra  measiirement  between  stations  2  and  3  will 
be  of  great  help  in  determining  the  nature  of  the 
boundaries  of  this  basaltic  layer  and  the  varied 
extension  of  the  massif.     The  cosmic  ray  detector  - 
actually,  you  know  as  much  as  we  do  about  the  data 
return  from  it,  of  course,  but  the  -  we  did  -  re- 
cover it  earlier  in  EVA  3,  as  you  remember,  and 
that  was  due  to  a  minor  increase  in  low-energy 
solar  protons  and  heavier  particles  detected  here. 
And  a  reduced  exposure  will  not  offset  the  scien- 
tific results . 

08  19  1+7  21    CC  The  neutron  probe  was  exposed  to  the  surface  for 

1+9  hours.     PI  estimates  that  the  distance  from 
the  RTG  to  the  probe  is  1+0  meters,  which  will 
mean  that  the  background  count  will  be  low,  and 
he  thanks  you  kindly  for  those  few  extra  steps . 
And  the  last  one  was  -  to  be  summarized  -  was  the 
field  geology  and  they  asked  for  a  very  short 
summary,  so  Walt  Berger  cattle  through  with  three 
typewritten  pages.    So,  we're  just  going  to  skip 
the  whole  thing,  except  the  last  line,  which  was 
to  say  that  you  guys  did  an  outstanding  job.  Over. 

LXP  '2aa.nk  you  Gordy.     We're  jus-  pleas ea  ziiar:  so  -any 

things  are  working  well,  and  happy  -:hau  -he  ?Ie 
are  satisfied.     That  was  our  objective,  and  ve 
came  up  here  to  meet  it  -  and  those  things  ohax- 
are  done,  I  hope  we  met  it,  well  -  and  we've  gc- 
a  few  more  things  to  do  yet. 

Well,  I  can  assure  you  you're  not  the  only  g:.c^ 
that  are  pleased. 


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CDK  Gordy  -  Gordy,  and  you  know  it's  satisfying  to 

have  put  that  much  time  in  and  -  and  come  out  with 
some  meaningful  results.    That  makes  us  all  feel 
good.    Have  you  been  able,  or  did  you  see  that 
first  charge  on  the  video? 

CC  I  forgot  to  mention  that.    5fo,  we  sure  didn't  see 

a  thing.    We  had  the  camera  aimed  over  there,  but 
it  was  a1 most  a  kilometer  away.     That  was  1-pound 
charge,  and  we  played  it  back  several  times,  but 
nobody  saw  a  hint  of  anything. 

CDR  Okay.     If  you  got  -  if  you  got  a  few  more  going 

off  here  in  short  order  don't  you? 

CC  That's  afflmative.    I  don't  think  we're  up  to 

the  next  one  yet,  but  we'll  keep  -  keep  you  posted 
on  whether  we  see  anything,  or  how  they're  doing. 

CDR  I  might  also  say  that  we  appreciate  the  time  and 

effort  the  Pis  put  in  with  their  experiments  and 
with  us  also. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  make  sure  that  gets  to  the  backroom. 

LMP  Gordy,  this  is  Jack.    What  did  they  see  over  next 

to  the  Sculptured  Hills  on  the  gravimeter? 

CC  Well  let's  see,  Jack.    They  kind  of  -  let  me  turn 

back  here.     They  actually  included  -  when  they 
mentioned  the  negative  anomaly  of  minus  30  milli- 
gals  at  the  base  of  the  Horth  Massif.     They  said 
stations  6  and  8,  parenthetically  there.  So 
evidently  they're  including  the  whole  area  there 
as  the  negative  anomaly.     I'll  try  to  get  a  more 
amplified  answer  to  your  question. 

Ii<lP  Kow,  could  you  see  if  you  can  verify  with  them 

that  they  were  ■jnable  to  -  or  there  was  no  dis- 
tinction between  the  measurements  of  the 
Sculptured  Hills  and  the  North  Massif? 

CC  Yes.     I'll  -  I'll  work  on  that. 


Or  "better  yet,  what  was  the  distinction  between 
the  Sculptured  Hills  and  the  subfloor  area? 

Okay, 

You  may  have  to  wait  until  next  time  around  for 
your  answer. 

Oh,  there's  no  hurry.  You  can  wait  until  tomor- 
row or  even  a  (laughter)  week  if  you  want  to.  I 
was  Just  thinking  about  that  problem. 

Okay. 

By  the  way,  Gordy,  you  might  tell  Bob  Walker,  if 
he's  around,  that  the  cosmic  ray,  as  far  as  I 
know,  was  untouched  by  human  hands,  at  least  on 
the  Moon,     And  it  looked  very  very  clean  when  I 
put  it  in  the  -  put  it  back  together. 

Okay,  Jack,    We'll  pass  that  along. 

America,  Houston.     One  more  question  from  the 
Surgeon  on  this  n^sterious  trace  on  the  LMPs 
biomed.     Do  you  have  anything  plugged  in  to  the  - 
is  the  biomed  still  plugged  in  and  laying  over 
on  Jack's  umbilical,  or  is  there,  is  there  any- 
thing plugged  in  to  -  to  Jack's  that  could  explain 
the  funny  trace  here?    It's  kind  of  a  sporadic- 
looking  -  looks  like  somebody  with  a  heart  in  a 
pretty  bad  shape.     (Laughter)  Over, 

Gordy,  my  heart  has  always  been  in  bad  shape,  for 
other  reasons  than  the  one  the  Surgeon's  thinking 
about.     It  turns  out  that  I  am  still  plugged 
together.     I  Just  don't  have  the  sensors  on.  I 
will  remedy  that  situation,  so  he  doesn't  have  to 
worry  anymore . 

Okay,  that  solves  the  mistery.     Thank  you. 

Say,  America,  about  30  seconds  to  LOS.     See  you 
next  time. 


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08  19  54  kO    CDR  Okay,  Gordy,     Thank  you  very  much,  and  we'll  see 

you  coming  around. 


08  20  15  XX  BEGIN  LUITAR  REV  65 

08  20  hi  02    CMP  Houston,  America. 

::C  Hello,  America.     Do  you  read  Houston? 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Yes,  America,  loud  and  clear. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     America  here.     The  mapper  -  when 

we  took  the  image  motion  from  OFF  to  CM  and  then 
the  MAPPING  CAMERA  switch  from  OFF  to  ON  also,  I 
think  -  maybe  it  was  STANDBY  to  OK  -  "but  anyhow, 
as  soon  as  it  went  up  to  ON,  we  had  a  harberpole 
on  the  talkback.     Went  back  to  STANDBY,  and  just 
before  AOS,  or  Just  about  AOS  there,  at  -  to  215  - 
20,  about  215:20,  then  we  got  a  gray  on  the  talk- 
back  with  the  MAPPING  CAMERA  switch  to  STANDBY. 
Then  we  went  back  through  the  cycle,  and  it  worked 
okay.     So  it's  working  now  and  it's  ON.     What  I'm 
saying  is  I  didn't  start  working  imtil  about  20. 

CC  Okay ,  Ron .     We  got  that . 

CMP  Miost  have  been  too  cold,  huh? 

CC  We'll  look  at  it  now. 

CC  America,  wouid  you  select  WIDE  on  the  HIGH  GAIN 

and  then  NARROW? 

08  20  i+3  CMP  Doesn't  seem  to  make  any  difference.     I'll  try  a 

REACQ  position  again.     MANUAL  -  and  WIDE. 

CMP  AUTO  or  NARROW,  it  doesn't  seem  to  be  working 

very  good. 

CC  Let's  try  REACQ,  Ron.     You're  in  a  skin 

zone  there,  is  probably  the  problem. 


Tape  Iii2/12 


LMP  Gordy.    This  is  the  LMP.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Jack,  you're  loud  and  clear. 

08  20  UT  35    LMP  Okay.    Add  to  that  little  discussion  of  the  pool- 

bottomed,  cone-shaped  craters  that  I  had,  I  think, 
the  last  rev,  that  the  one  place  there  seems  to 
be  some  variety  in  the  freshest  of  those  kinds  of 
craters  as  in  Mare  Smythii  where  -  the  ejecta 
blanket  of  many  of  those  kind  of  craters  has  some 
small  dark  halo  craters  -  - 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  Ihl/l 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUiro  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


08  20  I46  32    GC  Roger. 

LMP  They're  superimposed  on  the  "bright  ray  or  ejecta 

blanket  and/or  ejecta  "blanket  system  of  the  -  of 
those  cone,  or  fresh  cone  craters. 

CC  Okay. 

08  20  k9  hi    CC  America,  Houston.    We've  got  some  words  for  you 

to  -  a  request  for  a  little  visual  observation  at 
the  landing  site  area,  having  to  do  "with  orange 
material.     If  you're  ready  for  about  a  5-minute 
"briefing,  I'd  like  to  give  it  to  you  now,  so  you 
can  get  set  up. 

CMP  Okay;  go  ahead  there,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay,  what  we  want  to  do  is  see  if  -  This  was 

triggered  off  by  your  observation  of  orange  mate- 
rial last  rev,  I  guess,  and  possibly  earlier.  But 
the  idea  here  is  to  look  for  some  craters  that 
we've  identified  on  photographs  that  are  in  similar 
geologic  setting  to  Shorty  Crater  and  see  if  we  can 
see  orange  material  around  them.     We're  trying  to 
determine  if  the  orange  material  at  Shorty  is  a 
one-time  special  occasion  or  whether  possibly  it's 
common  to  the  area  and  just  never  been  noticed 
before.     And  we  think  you'll  be  able  to  determine 
this  visually,  better  than  any  other  way.     So,  if 
you  can  get  out  the  orbit  -  the  orbit  charts ;  the 
orbit  photographs;  let's  see,  the  Lunar  Landmark 
Maps  for  the  CSM,  and  turn  to  the  landing  site 
number  2  or  ir  picture.     Let  me  know  when  you  get 
that,  and  I'll  show  you  where  we  think  a  likely 
point  is  to  see  craters  that  are  similar  in  setting 
to  Shorty,  to  look  for  orange  material. 

08  20  51  31     loMP  Okay,  Gordy,  we'll  do  that.     I've  made  a  couple 

passes  with  the  binoculars  over  the  dark  mantle 
aro-and  Littrow  already,  and  have  seen  nothing  com- 
parable wit'n  what's  around  Sulpicius;  but  let's 
have  T"ne  examples,  and  we'll  make  a  special  effort 
on  it. 


Okay.     Have  you  got  the  site  photo  number  2  or 


Here  it  is.     Stand  by  just  1. 
Tab  on  it. 

Which  one  is  that,  Gordo? 
20h. 

No.     Number  2  of  U  of  the  site  photos. 

Oh,  2  of  h.     Okay.     Okay,  ve  got  her. 

Okay.     You  can  see  the  landing  site  there  at  - 
down  about  h  o'clock,  and  the  7-kilometer  crater 
in  the  -  on  the  centerline  of  the  page,  about  a 
third  of  the  way  down  from  the  top,  the  large 
bright  crater  there  is  -  is  Littrow  B  is  the  name 
of  it. 

Got  it. 

And  on  the  southern  half  of  the  ejeeta  blanket  from 
that  crater,  they're  several  dark  halo  craters, 
which  we  think  are  in  similar  structure  as  Shorty. 
We  think  that  would  be  a  likely  spot  to  look  for 
orange  material.    There's  a  -  Farouk  has  circled 
about  four  or  five.     They  show  up,  say,  ax 
k  o'clock,  7  o'clock,  8  o'clock,  and  9  o'clock  out 
about  -  from  the  center  -  about  a  crater  diameter. 
In  other  words,  a  crater  radiiis  beyond  the  lip, 
roughly.    We  suggest  that  you  utilize  the  best 
window  in  your  attitude  which  you  should  be  maneu- 
vering to  now,  if  you  -  if  I  haven't  completely 
interrupted  the  Flight  Plan.    Is  -  at  that  attitude, 
window  -  let's  see  -  1  is  the  best,  and  4  should 
point  up  xhat  way  also.    We  suggest  you  get  some- 
'bociy  on  the  binoculars  at  1.     And  use  the  same 
ca:.'iera  setup,  with  the  exception  of  using  xhe 
250-inillimeter  lens,  if  you  can,  that  you're  going 
to  be  setting  up  for  as  per  the  Flight  Plan  for  the 
orbital  science  photos.     If  you  can  put  the  250  on 
there;  use  KK  as  shown;  and  f/8,  1/250,  and  infin- 
ity -  I ' 11  repeat  that  when  you  get  to  it  -  for 
the  pictures,  if  you  see  anything.     What  we're 
looking  for  is  orange  material. 


Tape  lli3/3 


08  20  55  03    IMP  Okay,  Gordy.     We're  working  on  that  now,  and  we'll 

get  KK  out. 

CC  Okay.    We  were  thinking  you  ms.ght  be  able  to  get 

the  g\:iy  on  the  camera  in  window  h  and  the  binoc- 
ulars in  window  1. 

08  20  55  35     LMP  We're  coining  up  on  the  edge  of  Crisium  now. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Okay.     I  think  maybe  you're  right  about  window  U 

possibly  being  the  photography  window.     If  I  can 
get  oriented  right.     I  thought  you  -  No,  There 
you  go.     Yes.     It's  all  set,  right  here.  And, 
Gordy,  I'm  going  to  try  to  also  shoot,  if  you'll 
let  me,  two  pictures  on  KK  of  that  depression  - 
colorful  depression  we  saw  near  Sulpicius  Gallus , 
if  I  can  see  it.     Is  that  okay? 

CC  Okay.    I'll  give  you  a  unilateral  GO  on  those  two 

frames ,  and  we  suggest  you  use  two  or  three  frames 
on  this  area  we've  been  talking  about,  also,  in 
addition  to  the  scheduled  28. 

LiVIP  Okay. 

CC  If  we  get  short  of  film  or  something,  Farouk  says 

the  last  part  of  this  orbital  science  photos,  after 
you  get  to  the  end  of  the  run  and  change  to  1/125 
of  a  second,  is  kind  of  marginal  for  photography 
anyway. 

CMl^  ( Laught  e  r )     Ri  ght , 

Li^Ii'  Okay,     Gordy,  you  want  the  pictures  whether  we 

think  ve  see  orange  or  not,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

1.1^  I'hat's  very  strange.     May  have  to  pass  you  the 

camera  in  a  hurry,  Geno.     I  looked. 


Tape  lh3/k 


08  20  58  00    LMP  You  know,  Gordy,  the  craters  we're  seeing  around 

Sulpicius  that  are  orange  or  -  orangish  are  very 
clearly  orange  -  orangish  gray  and  the  whole,  or 
at  least  most  of  the  crater  is  that  way.     We  looked 
at  Shorty  today,  and  Ron  said  that  even  the  little 
bit  of  orange  that  he  saw  the  other  day  is  not 
visihle,  and  I'd  have  to  agree  with  that.  The 
amount  of  orange  we  saw  on  the  surface  certainly 
would  not  be  comparable  to  what  we're  seeing  around 
Sulpicius  Gallus. 

CC  Roger. 


And  in  a  couple  of  quick  scans ,  on  previous  revs , 
of  the  area,  the  dark  mantle,  near  Littrow,  I  could 
not  -  I  did  not  notice  any  obvious  orange- gray 
craters . 

08  20  58  57    CC  Okay. 

CC  Just  to  make  -  to  be  sure  we're  clear  on  this:  We 

suggest  that  area  to  look  for  them  only  as  a  likely 
spot;  but  any  evidence  of  craters  with  orange  ma- 
terial, in  the  whole  dark-mantle  area  around  Littrow 
and  the  edge  of  Tranquillity  there,  is  worth  noting 
and  getting  a  picture  of,  if  you  see  it. 

08  20  59  hh    IMP  Okay.  Yes. 

08  21  05  58    CMP  I  don't  think  there's  anything  there. 

Why  don't  you  taXe  a  couple  of  pictures,  then. 
Wait  a  sec.     Yes,  I've  got  a  few. 

CDS  Can  you  take  a  picture? 

CM?  Yes . 

CD3.  Bid  he  take  a  picture  ...? 

CM?  Okay,     5.6  at  1/250,  huh? 

CX?  :^o,  I  don't  either,     I  don't  see  ajiything  compara- 

o±e  at  a.l±.     You  know,  the  ones  that  we've  been 
seeing  "the  ~  definite  orange  or  the  light-tan  s-uff 
around  are  pure  light  ejecta  blankets  around  -uheni, 
not  dark. 


LMP 
CMP 


Tape  1^+3/5 


IMP  Houston,  I  guess  none  of  us  see  anything  comparable 

to  what  is  down  by  Sulpicius. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  And  no  obvious  color  either. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Well,  they're  comparable  to  Shorty,  but  they're 

not  comparable  to  -  they're  not  comparable  to  the 
ones  that  we've  been  seeing  the  obvious  orange  -  - 

GDR  Yes.     The  craters  are  comparable  to  Shorty,  as 

Ron  points  out,  and  -  but  the  color  is  not  there. 

08  21  07  CC  Okay.    We'd  like  to  give  you  a  couple  of  space- 

craft chores  -  like  to  terminate  the  charge  on 
battery  B,  and  turn        tank  1  FANs ,  ON. 

IiMP  Hand  me  the  camera. 

08  21  08  Ol+    IMP  tank  1  FMs  going  ON,  and  I'll  get  that  charge 

in  just  a  second, 

CC  Okay,     And  Just  a  reminder  to  go  back  to  f/h  -  - 

CI-IP  Are  you  going  to  be  able  to  get  that? 

CC  -  -  at  1/250  when  you  get  ready  for  the  orbital 

science  photos.    Also,  the  80-millimeter  lens,  if 
you  happen  to  be  -  have  the  250  on  there, 

CDR  What's  the  setting  for  the  ...? 

KMF  Oh,  f/8. 

CMP  Well,  we're  getting  a  little  close  to  the  termi- 

nator.    Change  to  5.6,  Jack,  I  don't  know.  No, 
maybe  not. 

l-'-IP  We're  looking  down  zero  phase. 

CMP  'rhat's  right.     It's  almost  zero  phase,  okay.  See, 

It's  just  beyond  that,  I  changed  to  f/k. 


Tape  lii3/6 


LMP 


Yes,  tiut  you're  going  to  lae  looking  at  the  nadir, 
aren't  you? 


CMP  Yes,  that's  right.    Are  you  sure  we  want  the  - 

Yes,  that's  right;  8-second  intervalometer  for 
looking  at  the  nadir  with  the  80  millimeter. 

Right? 

LMP  Yes. 

CMP  Okay.     Let  me  take  a  look  down  at  the  -  that  mare 

floor  and  Dawes.     No.     That's  not  Dawes,  that's 
Bessel.     Doesn't  look  like  Dawes.     Dawes  has  got  a 
bunch  of  little  -  depressions  that  look  like  rim- 
less pits  in  the  hottora  of  it.    Bessel  doesn't 
have  any  of  those.     It  looks  -  like  a  bunch  of 
debris . 

08  21  10  22    CMP  There  you  go.  Gene. 

CMP  Yes.     Yes,  yes,  I  see  it. 

CMP  Yours  is  on  -  I  see  yours.  Gene.     It's  on  up  there 

a  little  farther.    Isn't  it?    But  all  of  these  are 
in  the  -  this  is  not  out  in. the  mare  floor  of  Seren- 
itatis.     It's  on  the  hills  there,  the  Haemus  Moun- 
tains.    It's  Just  to  the  west  of  the  Sulpiclus 
Gallus  Rille,  and  it's  an  elongate  feature  than  runs 
kind  of  north-northwest  by  south-southeast.  Yes. 

CDR  . . .  was  yours  . . . ? 

CMP  Ko,  it's  not  in  the  mare  floor  at  all.     It's  up 

there  in  the  edge  of  the  Haemus  Mountains.  But 
that  was  the  same  type  of  material;  it  has  the 
same  color  difference  as  the  -  the  material  around 
the  Tacquet  Rilles  back  there.    There  now,  see  all 
those  bright  orange  craters  right  in  the  -  in  the 
Sulpicius  Gallus  Rille,  up  at  the  north  end  of  it? 
Jack  calls  them  an  orangiah-gray ;  I  call  them  an 
orangish-t an. 

CDR  ...  out  in  the  mare  that's  got  this  -  all  that  - 


Tape  1U3/7 


CMP  Eo.    Kfo.    Jack,  did  you  get  the  pictures,  good 

pictures?  Because  I  can  take  it.  See  that  one  - 
oh,  yes  -  see  that  one  on  the  mare? 

LMP  Yes.    Good  one  on  the  mare. 

CMP  Yes . 

LMP  Did  you  get  that  one  -  - 

CMP  Oh,  lost  my   

CDR  Okay,  here's  my  orange  crater  -  - 

CMP  Here,  take  it. 

■  jMP  Let  me  take  a  look  at  it. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  it.     Yes,  I  can,  too. 

08  21  13  27    CMP  Yes,  Gene,  yours  is  out  on  the  -  I  got  a  picture 

of  it. 

CCiR  Are  you  sure? 

01-1?  Yes,  yes,  I  know.    It's  got  a  -  - 

CDR  Okay.     It's  just  inside,  just  in  the  foothills. 

CMP  Yes.     Just  in  the  -  Wait  a  minute.     Okay,  I've 

got  one  out  in  the  mare  itself.     It's  got  a  - 
strip  -  - 


CDR  ...  foothills,  axid  I  can't  take  any  ... 

CMP  Well,  vhen  we  get  to  -  when  I  see  one  out  there, 

I'll  get  it.     Yes,  I  better  have  because  they're 
getting  close  to  -  As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  need  iz 
jiust  about  right  now.  Okay? 

08  21  1^  15     CDR  Veil,  Gordo,  we're  going  -  we're  going  to  get  set 

up  for  Eon's  orbital  science,  but  that  little 
classic  crater,  I  could  see  it  again  with  the  -  - 


CIvIP  1/250. 


Tape  1U3/8 


CDR 

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CMP 

LMP 
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CMP 
CMP 
LMP 
CMP 

LMP 
CDR 
CC 


  with  the  naked  eye.     I  don't  think  it's  the 

same  one  that  Ron  and  Jack  were  talking  about,  hut 
this  is  so  classic.     It's  just  out  of  the  mare  into 
the  foothills  to  the  -  right  along  our  orbital 
track. 

And  we're  starting  with  mag  109  for  the  orbital 
science  on  Kilo  Kilo,  and  I  don't  know  what  the 
number  was  before  we  started  taking  all  of  our 
(laughter)  - 


Okay.  We  copy  that;  109  on  a  key  -  on  KK. 
Okay. 


(Laughter)     Fortunately.     Oh,  what?     Okay,  there's 
the  old  Apennines.    Where  are  we  heading  for  on 
this,  Gordy?    Can  you  give  me  a  clue  as  we  go 
along? 

South  Imbrium. 

Well,  yes;  south  Imbrium* s  a  big  thing.     Oh,  the 
stupid  thing  doesn't  work.     I  got  that  one. 

Huh? 

I  got  that  one.     I  took  it. 
Oh,  I  don't  think  you  did. 
Yes ,  I  did. 
Gordy. 

Just  a  little  bit  on  it.     This  one  is  - 
Go  ahead. 

This  is  Jack.     Ivy  impression  on  that  risless, 
V-shaped  depression  that  had  the  striking  tal'Lis 
on  it  -  that  it  -  it  also  -  there  was  a  spotted. 


Tape  li+3/9 


mottled  rim  area  that  has  the  orangish-tan ,  or 
orangish-gray  color  as  the  spot.     And  it  looked  as 
if  the  -  in  this  first  -  in  this  pass,  and  I'll 
try  to  verify  it  if  we  have  another  opportunity; 
it  looked  as  if  the  more  red-gray,  red-brown-gray, 
if  you  will,  material  was  lower  in  the  section 
within  the  walls  of  the  depression.     This  is  a  very 
steep-walled  depression,  "by  the  way.     It  has  talus 
streaming  down  the  sides  of  it,  and  the  coloration 
streams  in  this  same  direction.     It  looks  as  if 
there  may  he  layers  or  roughly  horizontal  zones 
that  are  -  have  the  coloration  that  we're  seeing, 
which  are  forming  the  taJ.us  slopes  down  below  them. 

08  21  17  17    CMP  Break,  break.    When  do  I  change  to  2.8? 

CDR  I'll  give  them  to  you. 

CC  Okay,  not  until  you  get  on  up  the  line,  Ron,  to 

Lambert. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Lambert?  Okay, 

08  21  12  29    CO  And  your  pictures  are  pretty  much  right  along  the 

nadir. 

CMP  Okay . 

08  21  20  06     CMP  Now  I  got  it.     Okay.     Yes,     It's  La  Hire  Rilles . 

CDR  Is  that  Timocharis  we're  coming  up  on? 

CMP  Yes,  Timochar  -  We're  over  Timocharis  now,  and  "hen 

La  Hire  Rilles  are  coming  up. 

LMP  Okay .     There ' s  Lambert  up  there  -  - 

CMP  Yes.     LajJibert's  right  up  there,  coming  up.  I'm 

not  sure  -  well,  I  don't  know  what  the  -  Just  to 
the  south  of  Lambert.     What  is  that?     JJo,  just  on 
the  map. 

LMP  Well,  Pytheas ,  but  it's  - 


Tape  lh3/10 


CMP  That  way.     Remember  it's  right  with  the  La  Hire 

Rilles.     There's  one  rille  that  goes  right  through 
it  almost,  and  then  another  one  -  see,  goes 
northeast-southwest.     Oh,  I  see,  okay. 

LMP  Gordy,  getting  a  good  oblique  view  of  Copernicus  on 

this  trip.     And  some  of  the  dark-halo  craters  that 
we  mapped  originally  on  the  north  portion  of  the 
ejecta  blanket,  which  were  similar  to  Copernicus  H, 
are  very  clearly  darker  halo  than  the  -  or  have 
darker  blankets  around  them  than  the  ejecta  blanket 
from  Copernicus. 

08  21  21  it5    CC  Roger.     And  Ron  should  be  due  to  change  to  2,8 

about  now. 

CMP  Okay . 

LMP  And  this  is  a  good  view  of  the  central  peaks, 

although  from  some  distance;  and,  as  Ron  and  I 
were  discussing  earlier,  it's  not  at  all  clear 
that  that  -  in  fact,  that  dike  does  not  come 
through  as  a  -  the  so-called  dike  —  as  a  -  as  a 
unit  that  is  clearly  defined. 

CMP  Yes.     I  was  looking  at  it  through  the  binocs  last 

time,  and  I  couldn't  really  see  anything  that  was 
really  defined  as  coming  on  through  there. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  There's  still  a  very  -  there's  a  very  clear  dis- 

tinction between  the  dark  floor  material  of  Coper- 
nicus and  the  hummocky  floor  material,  the  dr^rK 
smooth  being  in  the  northwest  quadrant. 

C>P  You  know,  if  Laiibert  is  an  impact  crater,  it's 

sure  awful  smooth  ejecta  around  that  tning.  It 
only  goes  out  about  a  half  a  crater  diameter, 
maybe  a  crater  diameter  in  some  spots,  at  the  most; 
but  it's  not  rough,  it's  blocky  looking.  You 
know,  it's  smooth  -  smooth,  undulating  - 

u6  2_  2:;  3_     CC  Ron,  your  next  camera  change  is  at  E^iiler,  which 

you  change  to  1/125  of  a  second. 

OKP  I  tnink  we  J-^t  croaked.     We  did. 


Tape  li+3/11 


LMP  You  out  of  film? 

CMP  Yes . 

LMP  You  want  that  other  mag? 

CMP  Let's  load  Oscar  Oscar  in  there  to  see  if  it  will 

work. 

CMP  Need  the  -  dark  slide.     Here.     Okay.  Where's 

Oscar  Oscar?    Whoops.     VHBW.     There's  a  - 

08  21  2k  2k     [MP  We've  got  a  good  oblique  view  of  the  Hortensius 

Domes,  and  with  their  nice  little  central  pit 
craters . 


CMP  Did  we  hit  the  stick,  or  something?    Huh?  Looks 

like  we're  changing  attitude.     Well,  I'll  he  darned, 
I  put  Oscar  Oscar  on  there  and  I  got  hut  one  pic- 
ture.    (Laughter)     And  it's  empty.     Well,  that's 
prohahly  right.     Those  won't  come  out  too  good 
there,  anyhow.     Too  close  to  the  terminator  for 
this  kind  of  film. 


08  21  25  28    CC  Yes,  we  agree  with  that,  Ron.     Faroiik  was  mention- 

ing that  was  kind  of  -  beyond  Euler  was  pretty 
marginal  anyway. 

CMP  Yes . 

08  21  26  03    CDH  Gordo,  that  classic  crater  that  I  talked  about 

last  rev,  I  picked  it  up  again  this  rev  with  the 
naked  eye,  and  then  I  also  looked  at  it  again  with 
the  hinocs.     If  Ron  was  talking  about  the  same 
crater,  and  I  have  my  doubts,  he  got  a  picture  of 
it,  he  said.     But  the  interior  -  I  won't  say  there's 
a  change  to  black;  it's  just  dark.     I'd  say  it's 
probably  about  the  size,  to  put  it  in  the  right 
X^erspective ,  of  Shorty,  or  j'ost  a  little  bit  bip;- 
ger.     The  inside  is  dark.     By  that,  I  don't  !:.ean 
it's  black  or  anything  inside;  1  just  c&ii't  really 
see  inside  of  it.     But  the  -  it's  a  rust-colcreu 
blanket  that  coi-nes  out  and  overlaps  on  the  riins 
and  then  has  the  classic  ejecta.     Ana  I'r-  gotr-r;  to 
tal:e  a  shot  at  trying  to  get  a  picture  O-z   it  r_ext 
rev  or  sonetirne  when  we're  in  an  attitude,  beca'^e 
it's  too  good  to  miss. 


Tape  li+3/12 

08  £_L  27  03    CC  Okay.     Ajid,  commander,  if  you  can  send  one  of  your 

subordinates  over  there  to  terminate  the  battery 
charge,  we'd  appreciate  it. 

CDR  (Laughter)     Okay,  that's  in  work. 

CMP  Seven  Bravo.     It's  1  point  -it's  coming  up  J\ist 

a  little  bit.     Well,  not  much,  1  point  -  well,  1.25, 

08  21  27  52    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Battery  charge  on  B  is  terminated, 

and  we  got  1.25  on  7  Bravo. 

GC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CMP  Here's  November  November;  it  may  have  three  or  four 

pictures  left.     It's  on  I60.     ...  me  set  one  up. 
Oh,  we've  got  Papa  Papa  for  opportunity,  huh? 
Yes.     I'll  get  it, 

LMP  Houston,  are  you  ready  for  LASER  ALTIMETER,  ON? 

CC  Stand  by. 

08  21  29  53    CC  America,  we're  seeing  some  higher  than  normal 

temperatures  on  fuel  cell  1.     We'd  like  you  to 
go  to  panel  226  and  check  the  FUEL  CELL  1  PUMPs 
circuit  breaker  and  also  the  switch  on  panel  5. 
Over. 

IMP  Well,  don't  ask  me  how  it  happened,  but  your 

switch  on  panel  5  is  OFF.     Going  to  ACl. 

CC  Okay.     I  guess  that's  the  best  news  that  we  could 

have  had  on  that.     And  we're  ready  for  the  laser 
altimeter  -  - 

liMP  Okay.     Hey,  Gordy  -  - 

CC  -  -  whenever  you  get  to  the  attitude. 

ZM>   Gordy?    Here's  one  you  can  explain  to  me.  w.ien 

I  turned  that;  on  -  well,  I  guess  thar  -  I  jq'^  a 
sudden  drop  in        flow;  and  ^hen  it  went  up,  ov^r- 

snot  a  little  bit,  and  now  it's  steaay.     I  3Ui-::ect 
that's  what  your  EECOM  frie:-.d  there  wi^l  iay  ohcu_d 


Tape  1U3/I3 


08  21  31  07    CC  Yes.     That's  right,  and  we  see  indications  that 

the  pump  started  up. 

LMP  Okay,  that  was  a  good  call,     I  caji't  -  How  long 

have  you  noticed  that,  Gordy?     Do  you  know? 

CC  Well,  It's  tieen  about  3  minutes.  Jack. 

IMP  Okay.     I  guess  I'm  to  blame  then;  I  don't  know 

how  it  happened. 

CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America.     Do  we  have  any  more  or- 

bital science  photos? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CMP  I  think  that  was  it,  but  I'm  not  sure. 

08  21  33  32     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     LASER  ALTIMETER  is  OK,  and  IMAGE 

MOTION  is  barber  pole  plus  h. 

CC  Okay.    Thank  you. 

08  21  38  00     CC  Say,  Ron,  this  is  Houston.     And  there's  no  more 

scheduled  orbital  science  photos.     We  can't  seem 
to  run  down  Faro'uk  to  see  if  he  has  anything  up 
his  sleeves.     There  are  a  couple  of  passes  with 
black  and  white  coming  up;  one  next  rev,  and  then 
a  couple  just  prior  to  TEI. 

CMP  Okay.     Looks  like  what  we've  got  left  here,  as  far 

as  I  can  tell  anyhow,  is  Just  -  we've  got  all  of 
magazine  Papa  Papa,  and  maybe  four  or  five  of  them 
on  JTovember  November. 

CC  Okay.     And  we'll  come  back  to  you  if  there's  any- 

thing we  got  in  mind  to  schedule  on  -  on  either  of 
those . 

CMP  Okay.     We'll  want  to  save  some  for  after  TEI  to  - 

shoot  back  at  the  Moon. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Eey,  Gordy,  that's  TEI-1,  not  TSI-2  he's  talkir.y 

ab  out . 


Okay,  I  see  what  he  said. 
Roger.     TEI,  period. 
That's  right. 

These  guys  can  call  it  what  they  like,  but  I  know 
vhat  it's  going  to  be  and  when. 

America,  a  little  human  interest  stuff  here.  We 
just  watched  the  second  charge  go  off;  not  Just 
watched,  it's  been  about  half  hour  ago  or  so. 
Second  charge  went  off,  and  we  caught  it  just  in 
the  lower  left  comer  of  the  TV  view.     It  looked 
like  a  -  to  me  it  looked  like  a  flashbulb  went 
off  -  flashbulb  laying  on  the  ground  went  off, 
just  a  kind  of  a  quick  flash.     No  big  shower  of 
dirt  or  anything  that  I  could  tell. 

How  far  away  do  you  expect  that  one  was,  Gordy? 

That  one  was  600  meters  away.     And  it  was  a  half- 
pound  charge . 

Yes,  you're  still  pretty  far  away  over  that  - 
yes,  you're  still  pretty  far  away  over  that  -  that 
terrain  that  those  things  are  sitting  in  over  there. 
You're  going  to  probably  see  something  when  you 
look  at  those  that  are  placed  by  the  end  of  the 
SEP  and  back  to  the  east  there. 

Roger. 

Houston,  America. 
Go  ahead. 

Bo  you  need  the  cryos  stirred  at  all  today? 

Let  me  see  here.     Stand  by.     }^o.     I  ^uess  you've 

been  bouncing  around  there  enough.  We  don't  need 
to  stir  them. 

It  won't  hurt  them,  will  it? 


Tape  li+3/15 

CC  No. 
LMP  Okay. 

CC  Showing  about  115  beats  per  minute  on  the  Cl^P. 

08  21  h6  38     CC  America,  we'll  take  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

LI-IP  Okay,  you've  got  AUTO. 

08  21  5^  20     CC  Okay,  America,  we're  about  to  LOS  in  hO  seconds. 

Everything  looks  good  as  it  always  has.     See  you 
next;  time  around. 


CDR 


See  you  Gordy,  and  thanks  for  keeping  an  eye  on  us, 


CC  One  last  frantic  reminder  to  configure  the  DSE 

per  the  Flight  Plan  after  LOS. 

08  21  5^  56     CDR  Okay,  we'll  get  it. 

08  22  lU  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  66 


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APOLLO  17  AIE-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRAJ5ISCRIPTI0H 

08  22  1*0  19     CMP  Houston,  America.     Looks  like  we're  vith  you  again. 

CC  Okay,  America. 

  We>ve  been  taking  its  picture  Just  as  we  came  up. 

Roger.     You're  loud  and  clear. 


CMP 
CC 


CMP  Okay. 

CC  America,  Houston.     I  have  three  one-liners  for  the 

Plight  Plan. 


LMP 


mp 


Is  this  the  same  Flight  Plan  we've  heen  working 
on  up  here? 


CC  I  think  it  is. 


Okay,  Gordy.     Go  ahead. 


CC  Okay,  at  218:09,  delete  MAPPING  CAMERA  -  RETRACT. 

At  218:30,  delete  MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER  ALTIMETER 
COVER  -  CLOSED.     And  at  219:59  -  next  page  -  in 
addition  to  lE  and  LTV  COVERs  -  OPEN,  put  in  LASER 
ALTIMETER  -  ON. 


LMP  Okay.     At  219:59,  LASER  ALTIMETER  -  ON;  and  at 

218:30,  delete  MAPPING  CAMERA/LASER  ALTIMETER  - 
OPEN;  and  at  2l8:09,  delete  MAPPING  CAMERA  -  RETRACT. 

Ol5^ay>  "that  second  one  was  deleting  a  COVER  CLOSED, 
but  I'm  sure  that's  the  one  you  got.  MAPPING 
CAMERA/LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER  -  CLOSED.     And  that 
laser  altimeter,  we'll  just  leave  her  run  thro-agh 
ohe  sleep  period. 


08  22  45  03    U^P  Okay. 


:mp 


see  it,  sorry. 


Ma.yha.ve.     Sinythii  may  have,  on  the  thing.  I 
stij.1  want  to  talk  a  little  bit  about  these  polygonal 
craters  and  Smythii.     Tne  one  right  above  rev  62 
picture  on  the  thing,  there's  definitely  kind  of  a. 


an  unmuatea  [s±c  j  old  depression  there  with 


a 


Tape 


mare,  very  smooth  mare  floor  on  the  thing.  With 
tvo,  -  two  old  craters.     And,  that  is  definitely 
a  younger  flow  than  whatever  made  the  polygonal 
craterlike  depression.     Right  above  the  rev  62 
number.     The  thing  that  bothers  me  about  that  is 
that  they,  they  almost  -  oh,  looks  like  if  you 
threw  a  rock  in  the  mud,  you  know  -  made  a  mud 
pie,  and  you  get  a  wave  or  a  ripple  going  out 
from  there.     In  other  words,  you've  got  a  high 
wavefront  going  out  from  a  circular  direction  with 
a  slightly  sloping  up  to  that  wavefront.  That's 
on  the  inner  ring  on  the  thing.     The  outer  ring, 
of  course,  is  a  typical-type  ring  that  you  get 
from  an  impact  type  of  an  operation.     It  looked 
like  the  rough-looking  floors  of  those  rings, 
ring  basins,  essentially  have  the  sarae  albedo, 
the  same  characteristic,  as  the  rougher  looking 
floor  in  the  Mare  Smythii  itself. 

08  22  kg  17     CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CC  We'll  take  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

08  22  1+9  30    CMP  Okay,  you  have  it. 

CMP  And,  I  took  a  picture  of  that  one  in  Smythii  - 

is  frame  i6D  on  mag  November  November,  and  the 
reason  I  took  the  picture  is  really  because  on  "ohe 
western  edge  of  the  big  basin  it  looks  like  there's 
a  small  impact  crater,  but  it's  only  been  dished 
out  in  the  more  recent  flat  dark-gray  mare  material, 
{Music  in  backgroimd)     And  looks  like  when  it  comes 
to  the  edge  of  the  original  basin  ring,  that  part 
is  not  ejected  out  at  all.     So,  essentially,  you 
have  a  cone-type  depression  with  an  impact  crater. 
The  material's  only  been  excavated  in  the  -  in  the 
newer  mare  material. 


CC 


Okay,  understand  that.     Say  again,  wnere  that  one 


IS 


CMP  Yes,  that's  t.he  one  above  rev  62  or  directly  north 

of  the  Wright  Brothers (?),  in  the  12; CO  position 
from  the  Wright  Brothers . 

CC  Oh,  okay. 


Tape  lUi|/3 


CMP  You  know,  Houston,  we're  just  passing  over  a  little 

polygonal  crater  that's  maybe  15  kiloraeters  in 
diameter  -15,  20  kilometers  in  diameter.     It  may 
he  10  to  15  -  and  down  in  the  basin  of  it  is  a  kind 
of  a  polygonal  fill.     It,  again,  has  that  dark 
greenish-black  rock  that  is  collected  down  at  the 
bottom  of  it,  and  you  also  see  it  streaking  down 
the  side  of  it.     But,  I  think  one  of  the  most 
significant  features  about  the  crater  itself  is 
that  it  has  a  swirl,  and  these  are  honest  to  good- 
ness -  they  look  like  swirls  rather  than  rays.  It 
has  a  swirl  pattern  around  there  -  it's  radial, 
from  that  most  recent  impact. 


08  22  53  hk    CO  Roger,  Ron. 


CC  America,  Houston,  we  haven't  got  data  right  at  the 

moment  because  we  are  in  a  skin  reflection  zone. 
We'd  like  you  to  hold  the  pan  camera  to  STANDBY 
until  we  call  you. 

IMP  Thank  you. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  It's  near  -  just  see  Yerkes.     Come  down  from 

Yerkes.     Yerkes  is  the  subdued  crater  up  there. 
Come  down  from  Yerkes,  and  then  there's  a  little 
one  about  10  kilometers  in  diameter;  and,  then  a 
big  one  that's  about  50;  and,  then  there's  a 
bright  one.     Okay,  and  then   

CMP  Yes,  and  then  right  -  let  me  see,  kind  of  north- 

west of  that  bright  one,  about  a  crater  and  a  half 
diameter  from  it  -  is  an  orange-ringed  crater,  again. 

CMP  See  it  -  rignt ,  right,  just  a  -  bright  one  just 

about  a  crater  and  a  half  aiamexer  from  the  bright 
one.     See  it?     See,  it's  an  orange  ring  on  it, 
isn't  it?    That's  the  one  we  were  talking  -  -  I'll 
get  it.  Yes. 

CMP  Yes,_-^know  it.     That's  right.     It's  not  a  classic, 

but  10 's  another  example  of  an  orangish-tannish  - 
Say  what?     See  that  bright  crater  down  there. 
Just  about  a  crater  ana  a  half  diameter  to  the 
north  of  it  -  f/8  at  250  -  that  ought  to  set  it. 
And  Houston,  that  was  frame  l62. 


Tape  Ikk/k 


CC             Okay,  Ron. 
CMP  Yeah,  we  

CDH  And,  the  frame  just  tefore  that  -  I  took  of  a 

ridge  just  on  the  southern  edge  of  Crisium,  -  the 
pattern  of  the  massifs  in  that  area  were  very 
impressive,  but  two  frames  just  before  that. 


08  22  58  38    CC  Okay. 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


Houston,  just  one  other  question.     I  was  looking 
around  here  at  my  film,  and  I  got  mag  Victor  Victor, 
which  is  VHBW  for  the  Nikon.     And  looking  through 
the  Flight  Plan,  it  doesn't  look  like  we're  going 
to  be  able  to  use  that  anytime.     I  just  wonder  if 
we  might  be  able  to  use  it  for  some  of  these 
terminator  photos? 

We'll  check  on  the  film.     We'd  like  you  to  go 
WIDE  for  10  seconds  and  then  back  to  NARROW. 


08  22  59  50    CMP  Okay.     There's  WIDE.     Looks  like  that  did  it. 


Okay,  Ron.     The  HIGH  GAIN  looks  good;  and,  on  the 
film  -  it's  your  option  on  that  magazine.  There's 
no  scheduled  usage. 


CMP  Oh,  okay,  thank  you. 

UMP  Okay,  you  want  PAN  CAMERA  POWER,  OK,  now? 

CC  That's  affirm.     We're  ready  now. 

08  23  00  1*5    IMP  Okay,  it's  ON. 

3C  .  .  . 

CMP  You  want  to  get  it,  or  I'll  get  it? 

CC  Okay,  America.     We'll  take  PAE  CAMERA  POWER  OFF, 

now.  ' 

08  23  03  17    IMP  O^ay,  it's  OFF. 

CIvIp  The  landing  site? 

CMP  :;o,  the  optics  are  up  in  the  air  all  the  Line  on 

ohis  SIM  bay  stuff. 


Tape  Ikk/^ 


IMP  Houston.     Areas  in  the  landing  site  where  we  now 

know  tnere  are  extensive  blocks  of  the  subfloor 
material,  particularly  in  the  walls  of  the  larger 
craters,  I  have  the  impression  that  those  block 
fields,  from  this  altitude,  give  a  light  bluish- 
gray  appearance. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

IMP  I  don't  know  how  far  we  could  extrapolate  that  in 

other  craters,  but  we  might  start  trying  a  little 
bit . 

CC  Roger. 


LMP 


CMP 


CMP 


Following  that  a  little  bit  farther,  looking  into 
Dawes,  the  lower  talus,  slopes  of  Dawes  have  about 
the  same  hue  and  are  overlaying  the  first  by  a 
zone  that's  producing  -  or  several  ledges  that 
seem  to  be  producing  white  talus  and  then  above  that 
IS  the  -  or  make  that  very  light-gray  talus  -  and 
above  that  is  a  tan-gray  talus  slope  that  carries 
right  up  to  the  rim  of  Dawes.     So,  there  are  three 
distinct  major  stratigraphic  units  showing  up  in 
the  talus  slope  in  Dawes  that  I  can  see. 

Jack,  can  you  see  any  holes  in  the  -  square  holes 
m  the  floor  of  Dawes,  there? 


LMP  Wait  a  minute.     Ko,  I  was,  I  guess  I  was  talking 

about  the  crater  northeast  of  Dawes  -  Let  me 
check  Dawes  with  the  same  sequence. 

CMP  No.     Dawes  is  the  little  one  down  there.  That 

other  one  is  -  - 

IMP  Okay,  take  iz  back  again.     That  was  Dawes  I  was 

taliiing  about. 

a^iP  Yes. 


Jack,  you  using  the  binocs? 


-iP  Yes,  ±  talked  abcux  Dawes  already  but  -  iTo  those 

aren'o  nodes  dcwi  there,  those  are  Jus-  greax  b::g 
greao  oig  Dlocks  thax  have  fallen  off  tee  side  of 
ohe  mo^ontain.     Side  of  zhe  -  Okay. 


Tape  Ikk/G 


IMP  Okay,  between  the  tan  gray  and  the  very  light  gray 

there  may  "be  another  thin  and  possibly  intermittent 
zone  of  a  -  just  a  plain,  apparently  gray  unit 
forming  in  the  talus  slope. 

08  23  08  16    LMP  And  the  crater  to  the  southeast  of  -  southwest  - 

excuse  me,  of  Dawes  -  large  crater,  I'll  get  the 
name  in  a  minute,  you  see  the  lower  bluish-gray 
unit  and  -  and  the  next  white  unit  or  light-gray 
unit  up,  but  the  brown-gray  unit  is  not  nearly  so 
evident  at  the  top.     In  fact,  I  didn't  really  say 
I  could  recognize  it  there  at  all.     I'll  have  to 
check  that  one,  though.     Put  a  query  by  it. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  That's  Bessel  you're  talking  about.     The  top  of 

Serenity? 

LMP  No,  no  the  one  back. 

CMP  Oh,  Plinius. 

IMP  Plinius? 

Plinius  is  that  rough-looking  one.  Yes. 
Yes.     That  was  Plinius  I  was  talking  about. 


CMP 
LMP 


CMP  Oh,  Yes.     ...  the  oranges.  Yes. 

LMP  And,  the  next  large  -  well,  it's  not  large  -  nox 

as  big  as  Dawes,  it's  a  reasonable-sized  crater 
that  to  the  west,  the  talus  is  largely  just  white 
debris  on  the  slope  of  it.     But,  it  doesn't  look 
like  it  penetrated  nearly  as  deep  as  the  other 
two  we're  talking  about. 

CMP  ,\h,  Menelaus  Tacciuet  is  the  one  that  is  out  - 

right  underneath  us  right  now.     And  rhen  Menelaus  is 
right  on  the  edge  of  the  Serenitatis  Basin  before 
you  get  to  the  Haemus  Mountains. 

LMP  Okay,  looking  at  Menelaus,  you  can  see  vr.ere  Lne 

dark  -  the  edge  of  SareniT;a::is  goes  -hrough  the 
crater.     And,  the  north  wall  is  auite  distinctly 
grayer  to  -  let's  say,  bluish-gray,  than  the 
30utn  wall,  which  is  light  -  very  light  gray 
in  the  talus.     My  guess  is  that  it ' s  a  very  nearly 
vertical  contact  at  that  toint. 


Tape  lUU/7 


CC  Roger. 

IMF  At  least  that's  the  way  the  talus  siiggests  it, 

but  talus  does  move  vertically.     Looking  at  the 
depression  with  all  the  color  streaking  in  the 
talus  on  the  walls  -  there  -  I'll  say  again,  that 
the  more  red-looking  unit,  or  talus,  is  coming 
from  "below  the  orangish-gray  material.     But  it  is 
not  a  continuous  horizon,  at  least  not  so  far  as 
the  talus  indicates.     It's  local  spots  that  are 
giving  the  reddish  color. 

CC  Okay. 


IMP 


CMP 
CMP 

LMP 


CMP 


;mp 


Gordy.  That  particular  depression  doesn't  look 
like  it's  an  impact-generated  depression  at  all. 


CC  Roger. 

08  23  13  02    CMP  You  know,  we  sure  got  to  look  and  see  if  those 

things  still  look  orange  tomorrow.  Because, 
yesterday,  Stoney  looked  kind  of  orange  there  - 
on  the  northeast  rim:    but,  it  sure  doesn't  today  - 
Shorty,  yes.     It  pays  to  learn  the  names  of  all 
those  craters  you  guys  named  down  there. 


Oh  yes.     I  know  quite  a  bunch  of  them. 

Hey,  we'd  better,  hadn't  we.  Black  and  -  D-Caldera 
is  what  I  called  it. 

Yes,  Ron's  D-Caldera  -  I'm  just  correlating  apparent 
colors  now,  or  hues.     And,  the  lighter-colored* 
material  there  is  comparable  in  hue  to  the  subfloor 
color  at  the  landing  site. 


The  first  one's  f/32  at  1/5 00.     Tobias  Mayer. 
CMP  ...  A  window. 

LMP  Window  5. 

CMP  Window  5?  Okay. 

il-AF  What's  the  frame  count  ...  surface? 


Count  is  >5  now  on  Romeo  Romeo,  Houston.     Xc ,  not 
-ontil  we  come  up  to  Tobias,  Just  before  Tobias  Mayer. 


Tape  IUI+/8 


CDR  Be  able  to  pick  that  up  there  about  -  - 

CMP  On  the  other  side  of  Copernicus. 

CMP  Right  after  2l8.  Okay. 

CC  Roger  that,  Ron. 

CMP  (Cough) 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


Ron,  this  is  Houston.     Do  you  want  any  help  from 
me  calling  the  f/stop  changes  on  this  P66  run? 
Or  do  you  want  to  do  it  on  board  there? 

Why  don't  you  give  me  a  little  help  there.  Just 
kind  of  reminders?    So  to  f/11  about  Tobias  Mayer,  I 
guess,  and,  then  - 

Okay.     Then  f/8  and  a  1/250  is  at  Brayley  D. 


CMP  Yes,  right 


Are  you  shooting  pretty  much  straight  down  or  out 
in  front,  on  this  one? 

Let's  see.     We're  pretty  much  straight  down  on  this 
one . 

Okay,  I've  got  a  real-time  plot  of  your  longi  -  yes, 
longitude  here.     So  I  can  call  right  on  longitude. 


08  23  17  59    CMP  Oh,  okay.     Yes,  I  started  before  Tobias  Mayer. 


There  goes  -  What's  there?     Eratosthenes,  okay. 


CMP  Yes,  about  right  in  here  it's  a  good  place. 

08  23  23  14    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  back  ^o  talking  aboux  colors  a  little 

Dit.     It  looked  as  if  lower  talus  is  more  -  - 


Hold  1,  Jack.     It's  about  time  for  f/i: 


LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  ...  Ron. 

avIP  Okay,  f/11  at  I/5OO, 


Tape  ll|i+/9 


CC  That's  affinnative. 

LMP  Euler  is  -  lower  is  blue-gray  and  the  upper  is  a 

very  light  gray,  from  the  talus  slope  up  to  the 
rim. 


CDR  Houston,  I  can  just  start  to  see  the  peaks  of 

Euler  now  -  exposed  in  the  central  peak  -  the 
tops  of  them  exposed  in  the  sunlight,  and  it  looks 
like  there's  massive  quantities  of  large  boulders 
on  the  -  on  the  peaks. 

Roger,  Gene.     Okay,  it  must  be  about  time  for  f/8 
and  1/250. 

f/8  at  1/250,  okay?  That's  my  little  sea  -  crater 
chain  down  there.  Looks  like  a  cinder  cone  chain. 
Right   (coiigh)  between  Tobias  Mayer  and  Euler. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Okay,  try  f/56  and  1/25. 

CMP  56  at  1/25.     Is  this  the  last  -  -? 


CC 


CMP 


CC 


CC 


Last  setting,  right,  and  you  should  finish  up 
there  at  Tobias  Mayer  W. 


CMP  Okay, 


Or  a  little  beyond. 


08  23  26  3^     CDR  Houston,  the  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  coming  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

CI^P  Okay,  Houston.     We  ended  up  on  frame  80 ,  magazine 

R  R. 

CC  Okay,  Ron. 

08  23  27  27    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  MAPPING  CAMERA  -  STAISDBY,  now. 

IMAGE  MOTIOIJ  is  OFF  and  LASER  ALTIMETER '-  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 


Tape  li+i+/10 


I^IP  Houston,  what  do  you  read  our  GLYCOL  EVAP  TMP  as? 

I  tapped  the  gage  up  here  and  got  a  little  "bit  of  . 
upward  jimp  in  temperature.     Just  curious  how 
much  a  hang  up  it  was. 


CC 

LMP 

CDR 

CC 
CDR 


CC 


CMP 


Stand  by.     Okay,  we  show  66  EVAP  out  TEMP. 

That's  exactly  what  it  jumped  to.  Okay. 

Gordo,  I'm  interested.     How  have  you  been  reading 
me  most  all  day  today?     I've  been  on  lightweight 
headset,  all  the  time. 

I'd  say  you're  fine,  since  I've  been  on.     Let  me 
check  you  the  rest  of  the  day. 

No,  it  would  be  the  same  all  day.     You're  -  you're 
as  good  a  data  point  as  any.     I  haven't  really 
tried  to  make  any  effort  to  talk  into  the  mike  or 
anything,  I  just  been  talking  aromd  it,  and  if 
you're  satisfied,  I'm  happy. 

Okay,  sound  gooded  [sic]  all  day.     No  cutout  or 
anything  -  no  problem. 


08  23  31  k3     CDR  Okay. 

08  23  37  25    CDR  Houston,  America.     The  canister's  changed. 

CC  Okay,  Gene. 


I  think  you  can  stand  by  for  some  small  torquing 
angles  on  this  one.     Right  within  the  center  of 
the  sextant. 


CC  Okay. 


CMP 

CC 

CMP 


Well,  I  did  get  5  balls  that  "cime;  but,  that's 
not  bad. 

We'll  buy  that.  Well,  the  Z-axis  here  looks  pretty 
good,  anyway.     You're  clear  to  torque. 

(Laughter)     Okay.     We'll  torque  at  21  -  I  Tiissea 


30  -  Let's  go  to  21:45 
08  23  hi  kO    CC  Okay 


Tape  lkk/11 


CC 

08  23  hS  25  CMP 
CC 

CMP 

08  23  h9  Oh  IMF 

08  23  U9  05  CC 

09  00  12  XX 


America,  Houston.  Request  the  H  tank  2  FAN,  ON. 
Over. 

Okay.  tank  2  FAN  is  ON. 

Okay,  and  the  waste  water  dump  that  you'll  start 
after  LOS  should  taJce  11  minutes,  if  you  want  to 
set  your  kitchen  clock.     Also  a  reminder,  this 
time  after  LOS  we  go  to  REACQ.  Over. 

(Laughter)  Okay.  Thank  you.  Will  do.  We'll  go 
to  REACQ. 

Houston,  the  IR/UV  COVERs  are  CLOSED. 
Okey-doke. 


BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  6j 


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Tape  li+5/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


09  00  37  i*T    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Hello,  America;  Houston.     Glad  to  have  you  back. 

CDR  Well,  ve  got  a  good  one  for  you,  Bob.     Not  too 

good,  but  -  In  the  midst  of  other  things,  we  let 
the  waste  water  go  to  zero  on  that  diomp.     As  a 
matter  of  fact ,  it  went  past  zero .     And  the  . . . 
is  starting  to  fill  up  again,  and  the  best  we 
can  tell  onboard,  that  -  it  shouldn't  disturb 
anything,  but  you  might  take  a  good  look  at  it. 


CC 


CC 


CC 
CMP 

CC 


Okay.  We've  got  our  moon  beside  me  taking  a  look 
at  it . 


CDR  Okay.    Kow  are  you  doing  tonight? 


Not  too  badly.     I'll  have  you  know,  it's  clear 
down  here.    We  saw  the  Moon  for  the  first  time 
since  launch  day.     It's  getting  bright.     It  looks 
like  you  must  be  somewhere  over  the  terminator  on 
Imbrium. 


CDR  Is  that  right? 


First  time  we've  seen  the  Moon  since  launch  day, 

Oh,  we  Just  -  Oh,  it's  beautiful.  Your  weather 
has  been  that  bad,  huh? 

That's  affirm.     Fog  and  drizzle  and  rain  and 
rain  and  rain. 

LKP  Kow  much  older  do  you  feel.  Bob? 

CC  About  1  day.     Okay.     And,  America,  we'd  like 

TANK  2  PANS,  OFF.  TANK  2,  OFF. 

06  00  39  15    I-VEP  They're  OFF. 


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CC  And,  America,  as  you  can  tell  from  the  Flight 

Plan,  we  aren't  expecting  too  much  fron:  you  guys 
this  rev.     And  ve  aren't  expecting  to  send  up 
too  much  to  you  guys  either.    A  reminder  that 
we  won't  "be  asking  Gene  and  Jack  for  their  PRDs 
tonight,  "but  we  certainly  would  like  them  in  the 
morning.     So  you  might  take  that  into  considera- 
tion.    And  we'll  he  sending  you  a  few  up-links 
there  for  the  Flight  Plan  at  220,  hoth  the  state 
vector  and  the  EMP  523.     We  also  have  a  clock 
update  for  you  -  that  we'll  send  up,  and  it ' s  a 
O.OU  seconds;  so  it's  another  biggie. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    "We'll  make  an  effort  to  get  those 

PRDs.     We  can  get  one  of  them,  probably,  without 
too  much  trouble.     But  it's  a  case  of  restowing 
both  those  suits  to  get  the  second  one,  we're  not 
going  to  get  it  until  EVA  day.     I'm  sorry,  but 
that ' s  it . 

CC  We  copy  that.     I  guess  they're  back  stored  in  the 

L-bag ,  huh? 

CDR  Yes,  sir. 

CC  Okay.     And  we'll  want  the  onboard  read  outs  there 

at  the  bottom  of  the  page,  just  before  you  go  LOS, 
And  I  might  pass  up  one  little  piece  of  news  -  very 
local  news  here  -  concerning  us  members  of  the 
Orange  Team.     We're  all  extremely  proud  that  you 
and  Jack  chose  to  call  the  soil  you  found  the 
other  night,  while  we  were  on  shift,  the  Orange 
soil  because  we  take  it  as  an  obvious  honor  for 
the  Orange  Team  to  have  been  on  shift  at  that 
point . 


CDR  Bob,  you  know  our  intent  was  certainly  well  neant . 

We  certainly  are  glad  you  appreciate  it. 

LMP  I  detect  a  certain  amount  of  skepticism  whether 

it's  really  orange,  though. 

CC  It  looked  orange  on  Ed's  TV. 

CDR  Did  it  really?    Could  you  see  zhe  color  and  all'.' 


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CC  Well  J  so  did  the  blue  ocean  on  the  Earth,  and  so 

did  the  white  suits  and  everything  else;  but  they 
looked  orange  on  Ed's  TV  anyway. 

liMP  Is  Ed  on  tonight? 

CC  We  don't  have  any  -  Ho,  we've  seen  the  two  -  only 

two  charges  for  the  day.    We  don't  have  another 
charge  for,  I  guess,  about  another  2k  hours  or  so. 

09  00  h2  22    cm  I  think  I  understand. 

CC  Roger.     Ed  is  on  the  Orange  Team,  however. 

CDR  Bob,  I  would  like  a  word  from  you,  though,  as  to 

whether  or  not  you  think  there  is  going  to  be  any 

problem  with  that  waste  water  dump  to  zero  as  I 
said.     We  don't,  after  looking  at  it . 

CC  No,  we  aren't  expecting  any  problem.  They're 

looking  at  it.     They're  kind  of  amused,  but  they're 
looking  at  it.    And  I'd  like  to  pass  up  to  you 
fellows  ,  it ' s  -  - 

IMP  ...  an  iteresting. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  All  right.    Nothing,  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  I  might  also  tell  you  fellows,  in  case  no- 

body told  you  yesterday,  that  we  tracked  the  LM 
on  ascjnt  for  30  seconds.     Beautiful  pitchover. 
And  we  saw  you  going  away  from  us  after  pitchover 
for  30  seconds.     It  came  out  quite  well. 

CDR  Yes,  sir.     We  heard  that.     Good.     I  guess  I  was 

able  to  find  102  at  0.1 

CC  In  fact,  Ed  calculates  that  you  were  48O  feet- 

kdO  feet  -  from  the  lens.     As  they  say,  too  far 
is  better  than  too  close. 

CDH  Well,  I  was  just  going  to  say  I  cheated  a  litxle 

bit.     I  made  rwo  stops  and  backed  up  a  little  bit 
out  there . 


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CC  You  "backed  up,  huh?    That's  another  first,  isn't 

it? 

CDR  No,  I  didn't  hack  up  that  time.     But  I  did  hack 

up. 

09  CO  hk  51+    CC  We  heard  that  one  at  station  7  -  yes,  7,  wasn't 

it? 


CDR 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


No,  that  vas  somewhere  during  EVA-2 ,  I  can't 
remember  where . 


CMP  Houston,  fram  numbers  kO  through  k3  are  timed 

sequences  of  the  waste  water  dump  as  we  were  in 
the  sunlight . 

CC  Okay.     I  copy  that  one. 


And,  Bob,  just  give  us  a  call  when  you  want  the 
computer. 

Okay.     It's  about  another  half  hour  or  so,  I  guess, 
when  we're  ready.     It  will  be  about  220.    And,  a 
reminder,  we  got  -  at  220  there  we're  going  to  go 
LASER  ALTIMETER,  ON  euid  the  IR  and  UV  COVERS,  OPEN 
as  per  your  Flight  Plan  there. 

Yes,  sir.     I  got  LASER,  ON  and  IR  and  UV,  OPEN. 
09  00  1+7  2k    CC  Right. 

09  00  55  27    CDR  Hey,  Bob,  while  it's  sort  of  quiet,  anything  of  a 

news  worthy  -  or  noteworthy  news  happen  today? 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by  on  that.     From  my  recollection 

this  evening,  there  really  wasn't  anything;  but 
-.'11  check.    Did  you  guys  get  a  news  briefing 
this  morning? 

CDR  Yes,  we  did. 

Okay.     We  got  some  news  coming  over,  and  we'll 
have  it  here  before  you  go  around  the  hern.  Might 
just,  while  things  are  quiet  also,  pass  up  to  you 
that,  if  you  run  out  of  the  command  nodule  filr. 


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there,  you  do  have  two  -  You've  got  some  LM  sur- 
face film  left,  as  I'm  sure  you're  aware.  And 
two  mags  in  particular,  which  look  fine  to  us,  are 
mag  Barabara  and  mag  Karen.    Barabara  has  500  frames 
of  CEX,  and  Karen,  100  frames  of  black  and  white. 
Excuse  me,  50  frames,  not  500,  of  CEX.     And  100  of 
black  and  white.     These  mags  have  never  been  fit 
checked  -  on  the  command  module  cameras;  but  we 
believe  that  they  will,  along  with  -  as  long  as  we 
take  precaution  because  the  locks  don't  work  the 
same ,   ...  on  the  command  module  on  the  LM  cameras , 
number  1.     And  number  2,  the  focus  won't  be  quite' 
as  good  as  on  the  -  with  the  LM  cameras.  However, 
it  will  be  satisfactory.     So  there's  150  frames 
there  you  might  want  to  take  advantage  of  in 
those  two  mags.     We  think  those  are  in  Romeo  2  - 
stowage  Romeo  2. 

Yes,  yes.     We've  already  inventoried  those.  And 
we've  got  our  hands  on  them.     However,  we  -  Bravo 
is  empty.     We  used  it  coming  up  in  the  rendezvous 
and  docking. 

And  Just  in  case  you  got  some  left  over,  I  want 
to  shoot  some  of  that  black  and  white  on  the  Moon. 
We  got  some  instructions  for  you,  which  we  can 
call  up  in  real  time,  if  you  want  to  do  it  - 
different  exposures.     The  CEX  will  be  the  same, 
of  course,  as  the  CEX  that's  in  the  command 
module . 


LMP  Okay.     Bob,  what  factor  on  the  black  and  white 

would  you  use? 

09  00  59  23    CC  Okay.     Jack,  if  you  use  them,  use  them,  use  the 

same  sort  you  have  onboard  for  the  CEX,  but  you 
cut  the  shutter  speed  by  a  factor  of  2.     So  it's 
for  instance,  you'd  use  a  1/500  instead  of  1/250 
and  so  forth.  Over. 

LMP  Okay . 


Say,  Bob,  I  don't  think  -  At  least  I  haven't 
heard  anything  concerning  the  home  front  for 
about  4  days.     You  haven't,  by  any  chance,  had 
any  contact ,  have  you? 


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09  01  01  h2    CC  As  a  matter  of  fact,  I  haven't.     And  Gordy  didn't 

talk  to  them  tonight.     And  -  in  fact,  Gordy  and  I 
talked  about  it  on  one  of  your  -  when  we  were 
doing  the  changeover ,  and  I  thought ,  well ,  it 
doesn't  look  like  an  opportune  time  to  call  up 
and  find  out  right  now.     If  you  like,  I  can.  I'm 
not  sure  whether  they're  still  up  or  not;  or  I 
can  leave  instructions  for  Overmeyer  in  the  morn- 
ing to  round  people  up  and  see  what's  going  on. 
Oh,  I'll  msike  sure  Overmeyer  does  it  in  the 
morning . 

CDR  No.     Don't  worry  about  it.  Bob.     I  was  Just  curious. 

I  -  No  news  is  as  good  as  good  news. 

CC  Yes ,  that ' s  my  presumption .     I  kind  of  thought  the 

daytime  people  would  have  taken  care  of  that.  It's 
not  the  best  time  in  the  morning  to  call  up  right 
now.     I'll  make  sure  Overmeyer  calls  in  the  morning 
and  checks  on  it. 

CDR  Gordy  gave  us  a  briefing  on  the  SIM  bay  and  on  the 

lunar  surface  experiments.     And  it  sounds  like  all 
that  good  liaison  work  you  did  paid  off.  Sounds 
like  most  everybody  is  pretty  satisfied. 

CC  As  far  as  I  can  tell,  that's  right.     We  -  we  try 

there,  fellow. 

CDR  We  thank  you. 

09  01  03  19    CC  What  can  I  say?    We  thank  you  guys,  too. 

09  01  19  21    CC  Okay,  America,;  Houston.     We're  ready  for  a  little 

action  there  in  the  SIM  bay. 

CMP  ...  is  on, 

CC  Copy  that.    You  Just  beat  us  by  a  minute.    And  if 

you  guys  will  give  us  -  - 

CDR  It's  already  on.  Bob. 

CC  Roger.    And  if  you  g'oys  will  give  us  the  computer, 

we'll  send  those  updates  to  you. 


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CMP  Okay,  you  have  the  computer. 

CC  Okay.     And  if  you  guys  want  to  sit  and  listen, 

I'll  broadcast  you  what's  possibly  the  world's 
shortest  newscast. 

CDR  Both  covers  are  open  and  gray.  Bob. 

09  01  20  56    CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP  Go  ahead.  Bob,  on  the  news.     We  were  waiting  for 

you. 

09  01  21  09    CC  Oh,  okay.     I  was  waiting  to  see  if  you  g\iys  were 

ready  to  listen  to  it.     The  first  item  -  which  has 
been  a  continuing  item  here  during  the  flight  - 
In  Kansas  City,  former  President  Harry  S.  Truman's 
condition  continues  to  deteriorate  as  doctors  are 
unable  to  restore  his  vital  kidney  functions. 
On  the  Paris  peace  talks  scene,  there  has  been 
essentially  no  apparent  further  developments 
today.     It  continues  about  the  same.     And  in  New 
York,  police  are  red-faced,  it  says,  when  it  was 
learned  that  more  than  50  pounds  of  heroin  origi- 
nally seized  way  back  in  I962  -  this  is  part  of 
the  French  Connection  business  -  has  been  stolen 
from  the  police  building  where  it  was  being  kept 
as  evidence.    And  a  last  local  news  item.  Three 
prominent  Houston  men  are  missing.     They  were  last 
seen  in  person  at  Cape  Kennedy  in  Florida  on 
December  6  but  were  apparently  lost  among  the 
500,000  people  who  watched  the  launch  of  Apollo  IT. 
The  following  appeal,  it  says,  is  issued  in  case 
they  are  listening:     "Gene,  Jack,  and  Ron,  -  come 
home.     And  if  you  pass  a  fellow  with  a  bushy  white 
beard  and  crimson  suit,  advise  him  you'll  be  home 
before  Christmas."    That's  the  extent  of  the  news. 

LMP  We  saw  him  the  other  morning  briefly.  Bob.  And 

all  four  of  us  will  be  around  at  the  right  time. 

09  01  22  37    CC  That's  good  news.     We'll  pass  it  on. 


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.APOLLO  17  AIE-TO-GROUi^D  VOICE  TRAZ^SCRIPTIOH 


09  01  25  38    CDR  Bob,  I've  gox  some  onboard  readouts  if  you  want 

them. 

CC  Okay.     We're  ready  to  copy. 

CDR  I'll  just  give  them  to  you  -  okay  -  I  was  going 

to  say  -  I  don't  know  if  you've  got  -  yes,  in  order 
36.1,  37,  37.     ECS  is  68,  61,  65,  and  66. 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that,  and  we'd  like  a  battery  mani- 

fold pressure  reading.     That's  7-A  on  the  selector 
down  there.     Seven  Alfa. 

CC  And,  America,  the  computer  is  yours  again. 

LMP  Bob,  7  Alfa  is  l.k. 

OC  Copy,  l.U.     And  did  you  copy  the  computer  is 

yours? 

CDR  Yes,   sir.     We  got  it. 

09  01  38  09     CC  Okay,  and,  America,  we'd  like  to  configure  our 

tanks  for  the  night,     TASK  1  to  OFF,  TANK  2 

is  already  OFF,  and  we'd  like  TMK  3  to  AUTO. 

O^tP  Okay,  Houston,  you've  got  -  TAUK  1  is  OFF,  TANK  2 

is  OFF,  and  3  is  AUTO. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

UvlP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Roger,  17 .     Go  ahead. 

Ll-IP  Roger.     As  you  -  we  approach  having  earthse^,  you 

night  be  interested  to  know,  being  an  astronomer. 
Bob,  that  we're  getting  a  very  bright  specular 
reflection  off  the  Earth  now  from  the  Sun  that 
produces  -  reproduces  the  S-un's  image  cuite  well. 


Very  good.     And  we're  about,  between  I  and  5  minute 
from  losing  track  of  you  guys  tonight,  and  you're 
GO  for  LOS  and  GO  for  sleep  and  we  won't  be  sa^^ing 
anything  more  to  you  coming  around  the  horn,  but 
we'll  be  up  listening  to  you  though.     But  we'll 
consider  you  guys  as  going  to  sleep  on  the  back 
side.  Over. 

Okay.     Well,  we're  moving  in  that  direction,  partly 
to  get  the  cabin  cooled  down.     And  we'll  probably 
talk  to  you  in  the  morning,  before  very  long. 

Okay,  well  then,  open  the  windows  to  get  it  cooled 
down  too  much,  there. 

By  the  way  -  Okay. 

And  while  you  guys  are  sleeping  tonight,  you 
might  be  glad  to  know  that  the  old  Orange  Team 
will  be  sitting  around  the  fireplace  here  and 
they'll  all  be  singing  Christmas  carols. 

That  I  believe. 

Is  Stan  serving  coffee  to  you? 

We're  holding  out  out  for  egg  nog  tonight. 

Well,  good  night,  Robert. 

Good  night,  Geno. 

Well,  that  would  be  appropriate,  I  don't  -  you 
know  -  I  think  it's  about  time  zhey  treated  the 
MOCR  to  something. 

Good  night,  Robert. 

Good  night,  Ron.     Say  good  night,  Dick. 

Good  night,  Dick.     And  we'll  see  you  in  the 
morning,  I  guess.  Bob,  if  you're  still  around. 
If  not,  we'll  see  you  tomorrow  about  this  time. 


Okay,  and  by  then  you'll  be  headed  hoine. 


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CUR  Yes,  sir.     And  if  my  homefront's  listening, 

I  just  want  to  say  good  night  and  sleep  tight. 

09  01  kG  k7     CMP  Bob,  that's  the  most  beautiful  crescent  Earth  I've 

ever  seen . 

09  01  U6  55    CC  It's  a  nice  place  to  come  home  to,  g'uys . 

09  02  11  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  68 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

09  OU  09  XX  BEGIN  LUTJAR  REV  69 

09  06  08  XX  BEGIN  LUKAR  REV  TO 

09  08  07  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  REV  71 


REST  PERIOD  -  NO  COMMLTSI  CATIONS 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

09  09  30  51  (Wakeup  music:     "Light  Fire") 

09  09  33  58    CC  Good  morning,  America. 

CC  Good  nioming,  America. 

CC  Good  morning,  America,  and  we'd  appreciate  HIGH 

GAIN  to  AUTO  so  we  could  talk  to  you  all  the  way 
through  LOS. 

09  09  35  h9    cm  Okay.     We've  got  to  get  the  guy  on  watch  up  here 

in  a  minute . 

CC  Time  to  put  your  feet  on  the  floor  and  a  smile 

on  your  face  and  face  another  day  in  lunar  orbit. 
The  last  one. 


CDR 

CC 

cm 
cc 

CDR 


They're  there,  hut  our  fellow  on  watch  is  still 
asleep. 

Roger.     Would  you  like  to  play  the  music  again 
to  wake  him  up? 

Apparently  it  has  no  affect.     Good  choice,  though. 

We're  going  to  light  your  fire  today,  babe. 

Okay,  let  me  try  to  get  AUTO  without  waking  him. 
Stand  "by. 


09  09  38  CDR  Hey,  you  better  play  the  punch  line  of  .hat  song 

again.     Nobody  believes  you  did  it. 

CC  Gene,  just  before  we  get  the  lunar  scond  -  Say 

again  -  before  we  get  the  recording  going  again, 
just  remember  you'll  have  to  go  MANUAL  then  WIDE 
in  a  normal  acquisition  at  AOS.     And  the  angles 
on  the  dial  are  correct. 

CDR  Okay . 

C^'t?  Key,  good  morning. 

CC  Sound  a  litble  groggy. 


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CC 
LMP 

CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


Good  morning,  Robert.  How  are  you  doing  this 
morning? 

Things  are  great.     Stand  hy. 

A  little  Navy  groggy,  I  think 's  what  you  mean. 
(Music:     "Light  My  Fire") 

That's  for  the  CMP.     Do  you  believe  it  now 


CMP  Yes,  I  heard  it  that  time. 


Beautiful,  Boh.  We're  going  to  get  your  picture 
as  you  set  this  time.     Right  out  number  - 


CC  Is  that  from  on  board? 

CDR  Say  again.  Bob. 


Did  you  have  that  tape  on  board  or  is  that  just 
a  back  -  But  we've  got  the  song  again  in  our 
background  here.     Or  do  you  all  have  that? 

No,  we  had  it;  and  I  think  it's  very  appropriate 
for  today.     And  that's  exactly  what  we're  going 
to  do. 


Cl^  No,  we  didn't  play  it  back  to  you. 


Okay,  it's  just  ...  comm  -  - 


09  09  hG  51    LMP  That  was  those  other  guys 


America,  Houston.     You've  got  about  3-1/2  minutes 
until  LOS,  and  you're  looking  good.     All  systems 
look  good  to  us.     And  have  a  good  breakfast,  ana 
we'll  see  you  on  the  other  side. 


09  09  i+5  12    SC  Okay,  Houston, 


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APOLLO  IT  air-to-grou¥:d  voice  transcription 


BEGIl  LUiv'AS  REV  72 


CC  America,  Houston.     Realize  you're  eating  and  don't 

vant  to  interriipt  you,  but  if  you  get  your  headsets 
on,  -we'll  give  you  some  nevs  . 

CMP  Sound  great,  Houston.    We'd  appreciate  that. 

GDR  Go  ahead,  Bod,  we're  listening  to  you. 

CC  Okay,  let's  give  you  the  really  important  news 

first.     Went  around  the  iiorn  here,  and  over  in 
Nassau  Bay,  evei-ybody's  doing  real  fine,  and  it 
looks  like  Tracy's  going  to  go  out  and  visit  one 
of  our  "bigger  amusement  centers  around  the  country 
and  going  to  have  a  great  day.     And  everybody  just 
looking  forward  to  the  EVA  and  the  deorbit  and  the 
splash.     Out  in  El  Lago  -  everybody's  fine  out 
there,  Ron.     And  John's  out  selling  Christmas  trees 
today  and  Jaime's  going  to  go  out  shopping  with 
her  aunt  sonie-ciine  today  and  -  a  little  Christmas 
shopping  -  it's  getting  near  that  time  of  year. 
And  one  of  your  friends  from  Phoenix  is  due  in 
today,  for  trie  rest  of  the  mission,  I  guess.  And 
out  in  Tucson,  it  was  a  little  early  this  morning. 
Jack,  but  everj;body's  up  and  about  and  I  talked 
to  your  mother,  and  everybody's  fine.     She's  getting 
anxious  to  go  back  to  Silver  City  and  see  all  the 
celebration.     I  guess  those  people  out  there  are 
really  enjoying  it  and  really  getting  wild  about 
it.     But  everybody's  fine  all  the  way  around,  all 
the  way  around. 


CDR  Thari  you 3  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  REACQ  and  NARROW. 


MP  We're  fine  up  nere  and  I'm  sure  you  told  their,  "chat . 

'C  Oh,  I  didn't  have  to  tell  them  tnat .  They're 

listening.     They  neard  everything  already  this 


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CDR  Well,  we  send  o-iir  good  morning  on  our  last  wakeup 

day  from  the  Moon. 

CC  Okay.    Here  is  a  suamary  of  the  late  news  as  com- 

piled in  the  MSC  Public  Affairs  Office.  If  you'd 
like  it,  we're  ready  to  go  with  it. 

LMP  Okay,  we'd  love  to  have  it.     Go  ahead. 


Okay,  everyone  -  everybody  is  talking  about  the 
success  of  the  Apollo  17  mission  here  in  Houston, 
and  the  weather.     It  was  cold  this  morning.  Some 
thermometers  in  the  Houston  metropolitan  area  were 
in  the  mid-20 's.    The  lowest  official  temperature 
for  the  city  of  Houston  was  31.     I  might  add 
Ellington  had  a  recorded  29 .     A  huge  high  pres- 
sure system  is  dominating  the  midsection  of  the 
nation.     Barometric  pressure  reached  a  high  of 
30.7  in  the  Houston  area  this  morning  at  about 
5:00  a.m.     With  strong  gusty  winds,  the  chill 
factor  was  a  5  above  in  Houston,  and  about  a 
minus  10  degrees  in  Galveston.     Man,  that's  cold. 
The  national  Christmas  tree  was  lighted  last  night 
in  Washington  by  Vice  President  Spiro  Agnew.  A 
small  crowd,  braving  cold  and  rainy  weather, 
watched  as  the  Vice  President  threw  the  switch  to 
light  up  the  70-foot  spruce  that  came  from  Medi- 
cine Bow,  Wyoming.     During  the  ceremony,  Mr.  Agnew 
said  we  must  remember  the  many  servicemen  who  are 
missing  in  action  or  prisoners  of  war  in  Indochina 
and  pray  for  them  this  holiday  season.  North 
Vietnamese  peace  talk  negotiator  Le  Due  Tho  has 
told  newsmen  he  is  very  optimistic  about  prospects 
for  an  early  cease  fire  in  Vietnam.     Before  leav- 
ing Paris,  Le  Due  Tho  said  he  will  remain  in  very 
close  contact  with  Dr.  Henry  Kissinger.     Dr.  Kis- 
singer is  in  Washington,     A  Paris  radio  station 
has  said  a  peace  pac";  signing  is  imniinent ,  tut;  the 
report  has  been  denied  in  Washington.  Former 
Treas-ory  Secretai^  John  Connally  says  he  expects 
to  get  a  call  from  President  Kixon  shortly  to  carry 
out  some  foreign  visits  this  coming  year.     One  as- 
signment E.ay  be  a  visit  to  Moscow.     John  Scali,  a 
former  newsuian  z"rom  a3C  and  a  special  consultant 
to  President  Iv'ixon,  ls  expectea  to  be  the  next 
C.S.  Ainbassaccr  to  the  United  l\ations .     A  formal 


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announcement  from  the  Fnite  House  is  expected  in  a 
few  days.     An  explosion  has  taken  the  lives  of 
21  men  in  West  Virginia.     The  "blast  occurred  at  a 
steel-making  complex  near  Weirton,  West  Virgina, 
on  the  Ohio  River.     President  STixon  has  given  the 
green  light  for  a  pay  raise  for  all  Federal  em- 
ployees.    The  across-the-board  increase  of  5 .ik  per- 
cent \T±11  benefit  both  civilian  and  arned  forces 
personnel.    A  747  j^ombo  jet,  while  taking  off  out 
of  Miami  International  yesterday,  went  through 
a  flock  of  bii'ds  and  reportedly  lost  -  had  an 
engine  go  out.     The  pilot  turned  the  aircraft 
around  and  went  out  over  the  Atlantic  and  burned 
down  some  fuel  and  landed  at  Miami,  but  skidded 
off  the  runway,  hit  a  concrete  culvert,  and  sheared 
the  nose  gear.     A  few  passengers  fainted,  but  only 
4  were  injured  when  they  went  down  the  slide. 

09  10  38  12    CC  The  unexpected  always  deserves  some  attention . 

The  samll  comm.unity  of  Westvood,  Kansas,  a  suburb 
of  Kansas  City,  will  send  back  a  check  it  has  re- 
ceived from  the  Federal  government  in  the  Federal- 
revenue-sharing  program.     Major  Joe  Dennis  said 
Westwood  just  didn't  need  the  money.     On  the  re- 
gional and  local  scene  -  I  just  might  add  -  I  see 
it's  not  here,  that  President  Truman's  condition 
seemed  to  deteriorate  some  last  night,  but  he  is 
still  not  listed  on  the  cri'cical  list,  he  is 
serious.     Miss  Ima  Hogg,  the  90-year-old  founder 
of  the  Houston  Symphony,  was  honored  at  a  gala 
birthday  party  last  night  and  cake-cutting  cere- 
mony at  z'he  symphony.     And  Inttle  Tomball,  Texas, 
has  had  police  trouble,  but  nearby  Pasadena  doesn't 
seem  to  have  any.    Thirteen  new  pretty  policewomen 
have  jus-u  joined  the  suburban  police  force  out  in 
Pasadena.     And  Jack,  here's  a  special  for  you.  If 
you  ever  get  r.lred  of  cra,cking  rocks  .  why  not  try 
politics?    A  geologist  5  J.  Leonard  Davidson,  is 
going  -zo  r-on  for  mayor  of  Houston  during  "che  19T3 
election.     And  we  also  received  word  this  morning 
that  an  elementary  school  in  Silver  Cixy,  !lew 
Mexico,  is  being  renamed  for  their  most  illustrious 
graduate .     It  will  now  be  t,he  Harrison  H.  Schnitt 
Slementary  Scnool  in  Silver  City,  Kew  Xexico.  A 
couple  of  ne-w  college  ccacnes  have  been  ntxied. 
Dave  Smith  has  been  named  the  new  coach  of  Southern 


Tape 


Methodist.     Up  in  West  Lafayette,  Indiana,  a  vet- 
eran coach  has  been  named  to  iiriprove  footoall 
fortunes  at  Purdue,     Alex  Agase,  former  head  coach 
a^  Northwestern,  will  take  over  the  Boilermakers. 
Kent  Nix  is  expected  to  get  the  nod  as  starting 
quarterback  for  the  Oilers  against  the  Cincinnati 
Bengals  in  the  final  game  of  the  year.  Pastorini 
is  still  out  with  a  pulled  hamstring  muscle.  The 
Houston  Rockets  dropped  their  basketball  game  with 
the  Baltimore  Bullets  last  night  by  a  score  of 
9*+  to  91,     Purdue  beat  Western  Kentucky  last  night 
91  to  75.     Friendswood  High  School  was  eliminated 
last  night  in  the  Class  II-A  semifinals  as  they 
bowed  to  Boling  at  Rice  Stadium  33  to  7.     And  a 
final  in  the  news  today,  Marian  Rice  Hart,  the 
81-year-old  American  aviatrix,  says  she  has  at 
least  two  more  years  left  for  flying.     Mrs.  Hart 
is  currently  flying  around  the  world  in  a  single- 
engine  Beechcraft  Bonanza.     She  is  presently  in 
Katmandu,  India.     Tliat's  all  from  Editor  Jir, 
Kukowski  here.     A  special  hello  from  the  Space- 
flight Tracking  and  Data  Network  crew  around  the 
world . 


CDR  Thank  you,  Bob,  and  our  hello  and  thank  you  to 

the  tracking  team.  ¥e  sure  have  been  able  to  work 
well  with  them,  and  communications  have  been  super, 

CC  That's  real  great.     I'm  sure  those  words  will  be 

appreciated  up  at  Goddard,  and  around  the  world, 
of  course . 

CDR  Well,  like  a  lot  of  other  people  -  you  know  - 

you  can't  do  it  without  them. 

09  10  hi  36    LKP  Bob,  this  is  Jack.     My  appreciation  ana  tnanks , 

for  an  unnecessary  honor,  to  Silver  City. 

09  10  1+1  k2     CC  Roger,  I'm  s-ore  they're  listening  out  there, 

and  just  glad  to  do  it. 

09  10  1+8  20     C^P  hey,  Houston;  Aiaerica.     How  do  you  reaa  now? 

OC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron. 


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CMP  Okay,  I've  got  xhe  commander's  menu  for  you. 

CC  We're  listening. 

CMP  Okay,  day  10,  spiced  oat  cereal,  mixed  fruit,  cin- 

namon toast  and  bread  cubes,  instant  breakfast, 
tea,  grape  juice,  and  bacon  squares,  vitamin.  For 
lunch,  frankfurters,  two  pieces  of  bread,  catsup, 
orange  drink,  and  a  package  of  pecans.     Okay,  for 
meal  C,  turkey  and  gra-v^y,  orange  juice,  and 
lemonade.     Okay,  foi'  the  medical  log  -  commander's 
17052,  5  hours  of  very  good  sleep,  no  medication, 
and  three  cans  of  water.     Okay,  for  the  old  LMP . 
Food,  cinnamon  toast  and  bread,  instant  breakfast, 
coffee,  fruit  cake,  grape  drink,  peach  ambrosia. 
Meal  B,  frarikfurters ,  one  piece  of  bread,  orange 
drink,  sugar  cookies,  grape  drink,  and  coffee. 
Meal  Charlie,  turkey  and  gravy,  caramel  candy, 
and  orange  juice.    Okay,  LMP  medical  log  -  the 
old  PRD  is  still  at  the  bottom  of  the  sack  down 
there.     Had  about  5  hours  of  sleep,  no  medication, 
and  two  cans  of  water.     Okay,  the  command  module 
pilot  had  to  eat:     spiced  oat  cereal,   mixed  fruit, 
instant  breakfast,  coffee,  grape  punch,  cinnamon 
toast  and  cubes,  brownies,  vitamin.     For  lunch, 
four  frankfurters,  two  pieces  of  bread,  catsup, 
chocolate  pudding,  grape  drirJc ,  coffee.     Meal  C, 
turkey  and  gravjr  ^  chocolate  bar,  orange  beverage, 
and  pork  and  potatoes.     Okay,  CMP  medical  log  - 
15050,  about  5  hours  of  sleep,  pretty  good  -  once 
I  got  to  sleep.     For  medication,  two  sniffs  of 
nosedrops ,  each  side,  prior  to  retiring,  and  four 
cans  of  water.  Over. 

09  10  52  U3    CC  Roger,  Ron;  vre  got  all  tnat . 

CivT  Okay . 

CC  P.on ,  could  I  jog  your  memory  a  minute  back  to  -he 

HF  anterina  extension  period  after  docking? 

CKP  Go  ahead.     We'll  rry. 


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CC  Roger,  Ron.    We've  Deen  chasing  a  data  dropout 

glitch  and  we  Just  wonder  -  trying  to  cover  all 
■bets.     When  you  were  extending  HF  MTEUNA  1,  could 
have  you  gone  to  operate  on  the  immediate  switch 
next  to  it,  which  is  the  LOTAR  SOUNDER  switch 
which  was  right  next  to  1?    Could  you  have  gone 
to  OPERATE  for  a  minute  or  2  without  realizing 
it  while  your  hold  -  holding  1  to  EXTEND? 

LMP  Stand,  by.  Bob.     Which  extension  anomaly  are  you 

talking  about,  the  one  prior  to  rendezvous? 

"the  one  after  rendezvous  and  docking  when  we 
were  putting  them  -  they're  out  now  and  when  we 
put  them  out  -  when  we  were  putting  them  out  and 
were  extending  EF  AUTENNA  1,  the  LUNAR  SOUTIDER 
OPERATE  swi^ch  is  immediately  next  to  it,  and  I 
realize  HF  AJITEMA  1  is  a  momentary  switch.  When 
you  were  holding  it  there,  could  you  have  gone  to 
OPERATE  on  that  LUTJAR  SOUTTOER  switch? 

LMP  Bob,  I  don't  think  so.     I  -  no.     No,  I  don't 

think  so. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  keep  track  of  that. 

LMP  I  would  have  had  to  -  I  would  have  had  to  been 

gone  -  I  would  have  had  to  been  gone  to  the  - 
OFF  position  too,  I  guess,  right  after  that,  and 
I  think  I'd  remember  that. 

CC  Yes,  that's  affirm.     You  would  have  had  to  go  to 

OFF,  there.     And  I  didn't  feel  it,  but  Joe  needs  - 
you  know  we  got  a  data  glitch  -it's  nothing 
serious  -  no  problem  -  but  they're  Just  back  there 
trying  to  track  down  all  little  glitches  ana  that  - 
that  seemed  to  be  the  only  thing  that  could  add 
up  right  now. 

ijMP  Sure,  I  -  I  understand.     I  understand.  Yes. 


CDR 


Key,  Bob,  have  you  had  any  more  charge  firin{.-o 
on  the  surface? 


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CC  I  don't  Delieve  so.     When  I  came  on  shift,  they 

mentioned  that  the  LCRU  wasn't  working  right,  now, 
and  they  were  trying  to  work  it. 

CC  Okay,  Just  for  an  update,  we  fired  6  and  7  last 

night  and  we'll  be  firing  1  at  about  1  o'clock 
this  afternoon. 


LMP  They  all  went  off  okay,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  and  H ,  1,  and  8  go  off  today.     And  we're 

seeing  good  results.  Jack,  on  all  the  data. 

LMP  Okay,  has  Boh  Kovach  gotten  any  depth  to  the  debris 

cover  or  to  anyuhing  below  it  yet? 

CC  Let  me  check  that  out  before  I  give  it  to  you, 

piecemeal  here.     We'll  check  it  out. 

09  10  56  32    LMP  I  realize  that's  pushing  a  little  bit,  but  I'm 

curious . 

LMP  Bob,  how  do  you  read  17? 

CC  Read  you  load  and  clear.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay.     I'm  looking  right  down  the  slope  of  the 

South  Massif,  above  the  slide  right  now  -  right 
down  at  the  -  just  about  the  angle  of  the  slope. 
And  there's  a  very  slight  indentation  in  the  slope, 
just  opposite  the  msLxiraum  -  the  point  of  Hiaximum 
extent  of  xhe  dark  -  light  mantle.     Opposite  other 
portions  of  it,  though,  it  -  there's  no  clear  in- 
dication of  any  change  in  the  direction  of  the 
Massif  -  front.     It's  very,  very  slight,  and  I'd 
say  you'd  have  a  hard  time  saying  that  it  is  a 
source  area  for  the  light  mantle  but  i^'s  -  there's 
a  slight  indentation. 

09  11  01  11     CC  Roger. 

LMP  Bob,  just  north  of  the  -  of  the  bright-rayed  craters 

in  the  Littrow  area,  there  are  five  craters  -  oh, 
probably  in  the  thousand-meter-diar.e-er  class 
range,  500  xo  1000,  and  all  five  of  those  have  the 
sequence  of  colors  in  the  walls,  from  rim  down,  of 
a  brown-gray  -  clue-gray  and  then  brown-gray.  They 
are  al^  iaentical  in  that  secuence  ana  ouite  clear. 


Tape  152/8 


CC  Roger. 


IMP 


And  that  blue-gray  is  comparatle  to  the  blue-gray 
that's  visible  in  the  craters  such  as  Sherlock  in 
the  landing  area.    And  along  the  graben,  in  the 
vicinity  of  those  five  craters,  there  is  a  series 
of  very  black  spots,  I'm  going  to  have  to  look  at 
again  on  the  next  pass,  if  we  can.     I  don't  have 
any  idea  what  those  spots  are,  but  I'm  looking 
very  obliquely  now  to  that  graben  and  it's 
extremely  -  black  spots  along  that  graben. 

CC  Roger. 

09  11  10  k2    CC  Ron,  NOUU  26  doesn't  require  a  sign. 

CMP  Thank  you,  Bob. 


CDR  I've  heard  more  about  this  P20  on  this  side  of 

the  tunnel  this  mission  than  I  ever  could  have. 

CC  Roger.     Looks  like  you  guys  are  ready  to  go  to 

work . 

CDR  Well  (laugh).     Yes,  we  are.     We're  ready  to  do 

anything  you  want  to  do . 

CC  Okay,  we  need  ACCEPT.     Got  you  a  CSM  state  vector. 

CDR  Okay,  sock  it  to  us. 


09  11  11  39    CO  Okay,  it's  on  its  way.     Going  down  the  Flight 

Plan,  we've  got  a  Flight  Plan  update  if  you're 
ready  to  copy.     It  isn't  too  awful  long,  although 
it's  not  the  easiest  one. 


CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     At  230:20,  230:20,  add  the  following: 

"LASER  ALTIMETER,  OFF;  LA,  OFF." 

L>IP  Just  keeping  pressing  on,  Bob.     I'll  get  then 

and  let  you  know  if  I  get  them  all. 


Tape  152/9 


CC  Okay.  230:20,  "LASER  ALTIMETER,  OFF."  At 

230:29,  add  "Verify  all  VliF,  OFF."     At  230:31, 
delete  "WAST2  WATER  DUMP."     At  230:^40,  scratch 
out  "LMP"  and  put  "CDR  don  biomed  harness."  Just 
put  "CDR"  in  place  of  "LMP." 

CDR  Hey,  that  was  a  Flight  Plan  update  we  passed  on 

yesterday.     I've  got  those. 

CC  Okay,  just  keep  going  down  the  line  here.  At 

231:29,  change  "Check  LMP  biomed"  to  "Check  Com- 
mander biomed."    And  change  "CDR  doff"  to  "C^^P 
doff."     Okay,     ivnd  the  computer's  yoiirs ,  by  the 
way.     You  can  go  back  to  BLOCK.     And  this  is  the 
one  important  one  here.     We  want  to  make  sure, 
and  I'll  explain  a  little  bit.     Over  at  232:27, 
232:27,  "If  Lui^AE  SOUUDER,  OPERATE,  talkback  flag 
goes  barber  pole,  switch  LUI-jAR  SOUNDER,  OPERATE, 
to  STANDBY."    The  situation  here  is  that  it  might 
run  out  of  film  during  this  lunar  sounder  HF 
target  on  Hertzsprung.     If  it  does,  we  need  to  go 
to  STANDBY  immediately,  and  we  -  It'll  probably 
require  somebody  monitoring  that  panel  during  that 
5-"to-6  minute  pass  there.     Our  best  guess  is  - 

CDR  Okay,  Bob. 

CC  Our  best  guess  is  we've  got  a  5-Kiinute  pad  on  that 

film,  but  this  is  just  a  precaution.     And  at 
233:13,  after  "PAK  CAMERA,  POWER,"  add  "V/H  OVER- 
RIDE, HIGH  ALTITUDE,"     Okay.     That  ends  the  Flight 
Plan  update.     I've  got  a  lunar  sounder  pad. 

CDR  Okay. 

09  11  15  28    CC  Okay,  lunar  sounder  pad  is  at  230:55,  230:55- 

T-start  -^ime,  231:00:00;.  T-suop  time  is  at  07:56. 

CDR  Is  that  everything,  or  you  got  a  couple  more 

so'under  pads? 

CC  That's  trie  only  sounder  pad  for  now. 

CDR  Okay,  if  -  Let  me  just  run  it  back  through  you  to 

make  si:.re  I  go^  them  right . 


Tape  152/10 


CC  Go  ahead, 

cm  Okay,     At  230:21,  you  want  the  LASER  ALTIMETER, 

OFF.     At  230:30,  you  want  to  verify  all  the  VYiF 
is  OFF.     And  ve  want  to  eliminate  the  waste  wai,er 
a.\m.-p  at  230:31.     The  sounder  pad  on  that  Dage  is 
231:00  and  231:07:58.     At  232,  following  LUNAR 
SOUNDER,  OPERATE,  for  that  pad,  if  the  OPERATE 
talkhacx  goes  harher  pole,  we  want  to  switch  the 
LUNAE  SOUTIDER,  OPSPJITE,  to  STMDBY,  and  we'll  he 
monitoring  the  panel  during  that  time.     And  at 
233:12,  following  PA:^  CAJ'.IERA  to  POWER,  you  want 
V/H  to  HIGH  ALT. 


CC 


That's  a  good  readhack ,  Gene.  I  have  a  TEI-75, 
preliminary  TSI-75  PAD  for  your  Update  Book. 


CDR  Stand  by  a  second. 

CDR  Go  ab^ead,  Boh. 

09  11  18  22    CO  Okay,  -chat's  preliminary  TEI-75,  SPS/G&K;  36372; 

plus  0.63,  plus  0.86;  236:U2:08.58;  NOUn'SI: 
plus  30i+0.3,  minus  0183.3,  plus  OO8O.I1;  I80 ,  000, 
000;  HA  is  not  applicable;  plus  0023.0;  30i+6.9, 
2:25,  3029.2;  sextant  star  is  06 ,  109-5,  30.0; 
horesight,  and  that  Is  not  applicable.     NOIM  6I: 
minus  17. 89,  minus  I66.OO;  IOU7.2,  36172;  GET  of 
05  G  is  30^1 : 18: 36.     Over  on  the  comments  line, 
Sirius  and  Rigel;  136;  O71 ;  035-     Four  jetts, 
12  seconds  on  the  ullage.     I've  got  two  assump- 
tions or  rather  two  other  comments.     This  pad 
assumes  TEI  RSFSMf^AT .     Comment  2:     With  the  lift- 
off REFSMMAT  which  you  have  in,  it'll  be  roll, 
179;  pitch,  088;  yaw,  359-  Over. 

09  11  21  18    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     TEI-75  ^sreliminarv :     SPS/G&K;  363''2; 

plus  0.63  plus  0.36;  236:1^2:06.56;  plus  3Ci.C  .  3  , ' 
min^^  0183.3,  plus  0080. 1+;  16O,  all  zeros,  all 
zeros;  liA  is  IL4;  plus  0023.0;  30li6.9,  2:25,  3029.2; 
06,  109.5,  30.0;  boresight  is  NA;  minus  17 . 89 , 
minus  166. OC;  10^7.2,  36172;  30-:l6:36.  Sirius 
ana  higel ;  136;  071;  035.     Lour  j  ei: ,  12-3eccna 
ullage.     Assume  TL±  EEFSMMAT.     If  lif^-oLf  RLFSMXAT. 
att-i^uce  is  L79 ,  088,  359. 


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CC  Real  good  readback.     Ko  proTolems .     Got  a  consumable 

update  here  for  you  on  RCS  update.     We're  right  on 
the  Flight  Plan:    we've  got  56  percent  remaining. 
And  the  0^  and  Hg  are  basically  right  on  the  Flight 

Plan  and  we've  got  plenty  remaining  -  no  problem 
on  that .    And  for  the  Jack  -  for  Jack ,  for  the 
LMP,  I've  got  a  special  Flight  Plan  update  on  your 
crew  option  photo  target  on  Tsiolkovsky.  Would 
you  like  to  copy  that? 

LMP  Stand  by  1. 

09  11  23  U8     CC  And  we'd  like  HIGH  GAIN  to  AUTO. 

09  11  2h  07    IMF  Okay,  Bob.    What's  this  update? 


MD  OF  TAPE 


Tape  153/1 


APOLLO  17  AlR-TO-GROuWD  VOICE  TRAUSCBIPTION 


09  11  2h  31    LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  they're  recoirnnending  CM-5  to  EL  80  or  250  - 

I  guess  your  option.     HBW  -  maybe  that  should  be 
VHBW.     I'll  check  that  out,  but  HBW  is  what  they've 
got  here.     Exposure  from  crew  option  photo  char* 
as  listed,  except  change  1/250  to  1/500  for  the 
SO-millimeter  lens.     Change  1/125  to  1/250  for  the 
250-millimeter  lens.     Recommend  use  lunar  surface 
mag  Kilo  Kilo.     That's  use  lunar  surface  mag  Kixo. 
Record  frame  number  for  start-stop. 

CC  Okay;   and  I've  been  corrected.     That  is  HBW. 

That's  one  of  those  surface  mags  that  I  guess  I 
don't  know  anything  about.     And  ve  wo^old  like 
cryo  tank  configuration,        TANK  3  FAKs  to  OFF; 

TANK  2  FMs  to  ON.  Over. 

09  11  26  17    LMP  Okay,  you've  got  that.     And  the  photo  pass  on 

mag  Kilo,  be  the  80~  or  250-millimeter  lens; 
HBW  exposures  as  per  chart  except  change  1/250 
to  1/500  for  the  80  and  1/125  to  1/250  for  the 
250-millimeter  lens,, 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  And  record  the  frames. 

CC  Good  show. 

09  ^1  29  38    LI'-ff  Bob,  just  had  a  good  view  of  the  sunset  and  the 

corona  and  there  are  two  strong,  bright  streame:-s 
Just  right  at  sui^set,  one  parallel  to  the  plane 
of  the  ecliptic  aj.id  the  other  -  oh,  maybe  10  degrees 
to  the  south  of  the  plane.     And  they  forrr.  two  of 
the  major,  longer,   du  -  duller  streamers  that  are 
streaming  out  from  the  Sun  now.     There  are  some 
other  linear  streamers  that  are  still  visible,  but 
those  were  the  major  ones.     Once  you  get  out  about 
to  the  position  of  Kars ,  they  all  have  about  the 
same  intensity  -  which  is  very  low. 


r.oger. 


Tape  153/2 


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CC 
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CC 


The  pattern  is  distinctly  different  from  zhe  one 
I  believe  I  mentioned  to  you  yesterday,  sometime, 


CC  Roger. 


It  was  right  at  sunset  at  any  rate. 

Still  have  a  very  strong  glow  visible  at  the  sun- 
set point. 


CC  Roger. 


And  that  glow  -  the  -  the  general  glow  visible 
to  me  now  -  and  of  course  I'm  not  very  well  light- 
adapted  -  dark-adapted  -  but  extends  about  to  a 
position  -  oh,  let's  see  -  about  the  same  distance 
from  the  Sun  as  the  apparent  distance  of  Venus  - 
between  Venus  and  Mars  right  now.     Well,  let  me  - 
let  me  start  over  on  that.     The  apparent  distance 
from  Venus  to  Mars  is  about  the  same  distance  as 
from  Mars  to  the  limit  of  the  strong  solar  glow. 


CC  See  the  NOUli  05 


Bob,  when  I'm  talking  about  streamers,   I'm  talk- 
ing about  lin  ~  Say  again. 

I  said,  "We  see  the  NOm  05."     Go  ahead.  Jack. 

Okay,  I  Just  -  when  I  talk  about  streamers,  I'm 
talking  about  each  time  -  very  linear  bright  lines 
ohat  extend  -  oh,  maybe  two  or  three  crate  - 
solar  diameters  out.     And  then  they  merge  quite 
sharply  into  these  very  long  much  duller  -  streajaers 
that  -  I  guess  presumably  are  zodiacal  light, 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     V;e  see  the  KOuW  93;  you  can  torque. 

09  11  33         CDR  Okay,  we're  torquing  at  1+5,  now.     Bob,  we'll  go 

ahead  and  torque  at  230: 


3;oger , 


09  11  k3  Oo     li^p  Okay,  Houston,  are  you  througn  with  the  high 

gain  nov7? 


Tape  153/3 


Stand  by  on  "chat.     We've  just  gone  arcuna  the 
horn  and  you're  looking  real  good.     Looks  like 
we'll  have  AOS  at  231  about  8  or  7  -  righx  in  there. 
And  we  are  now  through  with  the  high  gain  -  - 

...we  are  -  we're  reconfiguring  now.  Okay. 

America,  Houston.  Vfe  didn't  see  the  mapping  camera 
go  off.     Did  you  get  that  one  off? 

That's  affirDi.     We've  got  MAPPING  CAMERA  OFF,  Bob. 

Okay.     Thank  you.     And  your  AOS  time  is  updated  a 
little  bit  -  - 

We've  got  them  all  now.     We're  coming  up  -  - 

  it's  210:11  -  230:11.     Try  another  one,  231:11. 

What's  at  231:11,  Bob? 

That's  your  AGS  time.     It ' s  a  little  bit  later  than 
what  the  Flight  Plan  shows. 

Okay,   fine.     Tiiank  you. 


BEGIIv  LU&AR  REY  73 


Houston,  this  is  AmerJ.ca. 

Hello,  America.     You're  a  little  scratchy  down 
here.     We'll  pick  you  up  there  shortly. 

Okay.     We'll  stand  by  until  then. 

Oh,  that's  all  rignt.     Go  ahead.     We  can  hear  you. 

Okay.     Tliat  last  lunar  sounder  pass  got  an  extra 
40  seconds  on  the  film  -  hO  seconds  on  the  j_a3t 
end  of  it. 


Okay . 


Tape  153/^ 


CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob,     I  was  over  there  on  the  right  side 

and  I  hit  the  FUEL  CELL  1  REACTMTS  switch  for 
about  half  a  second  and  got  a  . , .     It  looks 
okay  here. 

09  12  3h  kk    CC  Roger.     We  copy  that. 

09  x2  3T  53     CC  America,  Houston.     If  you're  reading  us  loud 

and  clear,  I'd  like  to  give  you  a  lunar  sounder 
flight  -  sounder  pad  here  at  231:21. 

CDE  Okay,  Bob.     Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay;  it's  at  231:21,  the  lunar  sounder  T-start 

time,  231:26:18;  T-stop^  50:33. 

CDR  Okay,  I  got  that,     'Zliaiik  you.     You  happy  with  the 

biomed  on  the  C'DP? 


CC 


CMP 


We  won't  Imow  until  x^e  get  xhe  high  gain  here 
at  21. 


09  12  38  58    cm  Okay. 

09  12  1+1  03     CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron. 


Okay,  here._  I  was  just  looking  at  the  Wright 
Brothers  Crater  as  we  were  going  through  there 

again,     Ajid  the  outer  -  crater  rims  on  that  thing 
are  kind  of  like  the  one  ~  . . .   about  rev  62  in 
the  picture,  but  the  outer  rim  -  is  sloping  in  zhe 
opposite  direction  from  the  normal  crater,  or 
some-ching.     In  other  words,  the  steep  slope  is  on 
the  outside  of  the  rim,  and  you  have  a  gradual 
s_ope  up  ^o  the  -  you  know,  from  the  center  of 
the  crater,  you've  got  a  gradual  slope  up  to  tne 
rim,  and  -chen  it  drops  off  zo  the  steep  slope  on 
zhe  outside.     And  the  steep  slope  on  the  outside 
is  maybe  -  on,  35  to  i+5  degrees.     TT.e  slope  on 
^he  inside  is  probably  -  somewhere  aro-^.a  20  degrees 
_  wouxd  guess.     And  zhere  is  one  portion  of  the 
rim  -  kir_a  of  on  the  western  portion  of  tne  one 
tnat  1  was  looking  at,  anyhow  -it's  almost  a 
deita-sha'oeci  ring. 


Tape  153/5 


CC  Soger,  Ron.     We're  ready  for  the  high  gain.  If 

somebody  can  bring  it  up,  we  can  read  you  better. 

09  12  k2  39     CC  How  do  you  read,  America?     You're  sounding  great 

now. 


CiMP  Okay;  looks  like  we've  got  you. 

CC  Real  good.     Go  ahead,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay.     I  was  just  kind  of  reminiscing  a  little 

bit  about  the  ~  my  mud  puddle  craters  i.here  in 
Smythii.     I  guess  that's  what  I  can  term  them 
or  call  them  -  that's  what  they  always  kind  of 
looked  like  to  me.     But  -  they  slope  up.  But 
the  rims  of  those  craters  and  even  the  interior 
rims  on  ones  that  are  multi-ringed,  they  slope 
upward  from  the  center  of  the  crater  toward  the 
rim,  and  a  gradual  slope,  and  then  they  drop  off 
on  the  outside  of  the  crater  rim,  sloping  down 
from  the  outside  crater  up  to  U5  degrees.  And 
then  at  some  points  on  there,  it  almost  looks 
like  it's  a  real  classic  delta-shaped  rim  on  them, 
where  you  have  the  same  slope  on  the  inside  as 
well  as  the  outside  of  "che  crater. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CDR  Houston,  you  ready  for  mode  VHF? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

09  12  hi  19     CDR  VET, 

09  12  1^5  27    CKP  Okay;   50  seconds  to  LUITAR  SOLIIBER  OPiRATS,  okay? 

REC0RJ3ER  is  OSj  RADAR 's  ON;  we're  in  VET,  okay"'. 
Be  a  TiiF  pass.     And  what  time?     26:l8.     Okay;  13, 
Ik,  15,  l6,  IT  ~ 

09  12  ho  39     C:'1P  MRK  it;.     SODNDE'R  to  OPERAIZ . 


09  12  1+T  21 


.■America,  ce  advised.  Gene,  your  biomed  look 
good. 


lhank  you-  Dob. 


Tape  153/6 


09  ^2  h9  16    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  fra^ae  l63  and  l61+  azid  163  were 

taken  of  the  mud  craters  and  Sray^hii.  And  166, 
I  guess,  was  taken  of  the  great  slopings  -  side 
of  the  crater  in  Crisium.     That's  Just  south  of 


CMP 


CMP 
CC 


Yerkeg , 


That's  mag  November  November.     Oh,  wait  a  minute. 
That's  Gene's  crater,  isn't  it? 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  All  right,  go  ahead, 

CC  Ron,  we  did  not  get  the  HIGH  GAIN  to  NARROW.  We 

have  sequence  for  you  which  is  important  to  go 
through  so  that  we  do  not  break  lock  and  lose  ^his 
lunar  sounder  VHF  data.     We  would  like  you  to  dial 
m  PITCH,  minus  1+5;  YAW  5.     Go  to  MANUAL  and  WIDE. 
And  when  you  get  the  signal  strength,  go  to  REACQ 
and  then  step  to  the  BEAM,  NARROW,  MEDIUM,  and 
WIDE,  or,  say  again,  WIDE,  NARROW,  MEDIUM. 

09  12  51  12     CMP  Okay,  I'm  with  you.     Okay,  I  got  minus  U5  on  the 

PITCH,  plus  about  5  on  the  YAW   

CC  That  should  be  minus  45  on  the  PITCH. 


Isn't  that  what  I  said?    That's  what  I  got. 
Minus  i+5.     Ajid  plus  5  on  the  YAW,  right? 

Affirmative.  And  we're  ready  for  you  to  do  it, 
Go  ahead. 


09  12  51  37    GxMP  And  we're  going  to  MANUAL  and  WIDE. 

CMP  How's  that? 

CC  That's  great;  we  didn't  drop  any.     That's  great, 

CI^P  Okay. 

CDR  Hello,  Bob. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


Tape  153/7 


CDR  Okay,  this  is  Gene.     I've  got  a  -  a  very  inter- 

esting crater  out  in  Tranquillity  I'd  like  to  T^ass 
some  info  on  for  you  ~-  to  you  on.     It's  about  in 
the  central  part  of  Tranquillity.     It's  got  a  very 
sharply  raised  lip,  and  it's  got  some  very  dark  - 
rough  rimmed  deposits.     It ' s  got  a  -  a  very,  very 
ohvious  ...   furrow,  looks  like  it's  elongated, 
basically  to  the  ~  generally  to  the  east  and  to 
the  west,     1  can't  tell,  but  because  of  the  share 
of  it,  and  because  of  those  a  .  .  .  darker  riir. 
deposits  I'm  sure  there  must  be  a  vent  there  some- 
where ^  but  it's  too  dark  do™  in  there.     I  can't 
really  see  for  sure  whether  there  is  one  or  not. 
But,  if  there  is,  I  imagine  it's  pretty  big.  And 
1  can't  tell.  It's  only  sort  of  intuitive,  but  i 
imagine  the  elongation  was  produced  during  the 
thrust  of  the  initial  d^/namics,  the  formation  of 
the  impact . 

CC  Roger,  Gene,     Do  you  have  a  scale  on  the  size  of 

the  crater? 

CDR  Stand  by  1  and  let  me  look. 

CDR  Bob,  yes.     T  may  have  said  Trancuillity .     I  meant 

Fecunditatis.     I  did  not  mean  Tranquillity. 

CC  Copy, 

CDR  Bob,  I'll  have  to  give  you  an  estimate  on  the  - 

on  the  relative  size  of  it,  but  the  length-to- 
vidLh  ratio  is  probably  about  2  to  1,  and  it  -  it's 
certainly  bigger  than  the  Camelot  size  range. 


CC 


Roger.  That's  good.  Just  wanted  to  nin  it  down 
for  you. 


might  oe  abo^e  to  pic.^  it  out.  Okay. 


And  whoever 'E  got  the  Flight  Plan  in  tneir  nand, 
I've  got  a  lur.ar  so-ander  pan  vnicn  is  at  232:20 
and  a  pan  ca:'.iera  pad  which  is  at  233:20. 


CDr;  O'^&y,  aob.     I'm  keeper  of  the  left-hand  side  ^^lu- 

tne  manager  of  the  Flight  Plan  here,  so  pass  it  up. 


Tape  153/8 


09  12.  55  23    CC  Okay.     Liinar  sounder  pad.     T-start  time, 

232:26:11;  T-stop  time,  3i+:l8. 


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Tape  15ii/l 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROjSD  VOICE  TRAP'S CRIPT ION 


09  12  55  50    CDR  Okay.     26:11,  3J+:l6. 

CC  Okay,  pan  caxiera  photo  pad,  which  Is  over  at 

233:20:     T-start  time,  233:2i|:0T;  T-stop,  38:i+2. 

CDR  233:24:07,  33:42. 

CC  Roger.     Good  copy. 

09  13  01  00     CC  17,  just  for  your  information,  it's  Mami  3, 

Baltimore  0  ~  they're  a"bout  -  Baltimore  0  -  they're 
ahout  midway  through  the  first  quarter,  and  Miami's 
making  an  effort  to  go  undefeated  today. 

LMP  It's  the  last  game  of  their  season,  isn't  it? 

CC  That's  right.     This  will  he  the'  undefeated  season 

if  they  hack  It. 

CMP  Houston,  America.     I  think  I  mentioned  -  a  couple 

or  3  days  ago  that  -  however,  when  we  first  got 
up  here  ~  that  I  had  a  heck  of  a  time  seeing  that 
Tycho  ray  that  goes  out  across  Bessel.     And  I  for- 
got to  tell  you  that  yesterday  -  kind  of  for  the 
first  time  -  it  really  started  showing  up  when 
we  were  getting  up  in  the  higher  Sun.     And  today, 
it  really  shows  up  quite  vividly.     It's  just  a  " 
ray  that  takes  off  from  the  edge  of  Crisium  and 
goes  right  across  Bessel  and  goes  out  to  about  the 
middle  of  Crisi-om  -  I  don't  mean  Crisium,  I  mean 
Serenitatis ,  I  was  talking  about  Serenitatis  all 
the  time. 

CC  Right. 

J^P  Say,  Boh.     Those  craters  on  the  south-wesxern  side 

of ^ Serenitatis  still  have  got  that  orange  hue  at 
tnis  Sun  angle,  and  that's  with  the  naked  eye. 

CC  Roger.     These  are  the  ones  right  in  the  Sulpicius 

Gallus  region? 


LMP 


Yes. 


Tape  I5U/2 


09  13  0^  1+3     CMP  And,  Houston;  166  and  16?  were  taken  oi^  a  crater 

that  looks  like  it's  got  a  reddish  dike  in  it  and 
it's  on  -  in  the  -  again  in  the  Haemus  Mountains 
to  the  west  of  Sulpicius  Callus. 

LMP  Houston,  a  little  more  on  that.     It's  an  inpact 

crater  with  a  line  essentially  across  the  diameter 
in  a  east-west  direction,  maybe  a  little  bit  north 
cf  west  direction  and  the  ejecta  to  the  north  of 
that  -  Just  went  under  us  -  the  ejecta  to  the  north 
of  the  line  is  the  orange  -  actually  more  red-brown 
than  orange,  although  there  are  both  hues  in  it   

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Can  you  give  us  some  scale  on  that 

crater? 

LMP    looks  similar  to  -  Yes,  it's  about  a  600-neter 

crater.     And  it  looks  very  much  like  -  in  it's 
geologic  pattern  to  the  -  that  crater  out  in  the 
Nevada  test  site  on  Buckboard  Mesa  that  had  an 
explosion  along  a  contact  between  two  very  sharply 
contrasting  rock  types.     In  this  case,  however,  the 
line  does  not  go  completely  across  the  crater,  and 
that's  why  we  feel  it  may  be  a  dike  or  a  vein  which 
fortuitously  has  been  hit  by  that  impact. 

CC  Okay;  can  you  give  me  a  little  relationship  with 

respect  to  Sulpicius  Gallus ,  the  crater? 

LMP  Yes,  I'll  try  to  spot  it  in  a  minute. 


CC 


Okay,  why  don't  you  just  mark  it  on  your  map  so 
for  pre  -  postflight  we'll  have  it. 


09  13  07  UO    LMP  On  the  -  somewhere  around  -  I'll  try  to  spot  it 

more  exactly  -  on  the  20  nor-Lh  latitude  line  and 
about  7  east  on  a  ridge.     It's  righr  on  xop  of 
ridge.     I  think  it's  that  ridge.     I'll  try  zo  spot 
it  more  exactly  later . 

CC  Okay. 

^o^-!  you're  less  than  a  minute  to  LUKAR  SOUI^DSR 
STANLEY  T-stop  time. 


Tape  15h/3 


CC  And,  America,  just  a  reminder.     When  you're  power- 

ing the  SIM  "oay,  up  here  again,  the  mapping  camera 
laser  altimeter  cover  is  already  open  and  the  map- 
ping camera  is  already  extended. 

CDR  Okay.     Thank  you. 

CDR  Okay,  Boh.     We'll  just  eliminate  those  last  two 

steps,  is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Okay.     You  still  want  MAPPING  CAMERAS,  STAUDBY , 

up  there  in  the  fourth  step? 

CC  That's  affinri. 

09  13  12  oh    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    The  SIM  hay  is  powered  up.  We 

eliminated  the  last  two  steps. 

CC  Roger.     Thank  you,  Gene. 


CDR  Okay,  Houston.     I  guess  you  saw  those  -  we  got 

through  those  procedures  and  you  probahly  saw  most 
of  the  switching.     Sorry;  I  should  have  heen  in  VOX. 

CC  No  prohlem. 

09  13  15  38    LMP  Houston,  this  is  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  One  of  the  questions  we  asked  ourselves  years  ago, 

when  we  mapped  the  Copernicus  area,  was  were  we 
really  seeing  dark  mantling  deposits  on  some  of 
the  massifs  of  the  Carpathians,  and  looking  ax  it 
ohliquely  here,  it  -  some  of  those  areas  that  we've 
mapped  as  dai'k  mantling  are  distinctly  brownish 
gray  versus  the  normal  tan  gray  of  the  -  of  most  of 
the  Carpathians.     It  looks  ^Ike  -  and  i^'s  ahout 
the  same  color  as  -  extrapolating  -  as  the  dark 
mantle  around  Sulpicius  and  Taurus-Lix-row. 

CC  Roger. 


Also,   uhe  ncr-ch  boundary  of  the  Carparhis^n  M 
has  a  very  sharply  defined  high  lava  ni>irkG  -  and 


Tape  15^/^ 


that's  actually  what  ve're  seeing.     And  in  -  I'll 
mark  the  place  on  the  map,  hut  it  looks  like  it 
extends  about  a  sixth  to  an  eighth  of  the  way  up 
the  highest  peak.     It's  ciuite  a  striking  and  ob- 
vious mark.    There's  a  major  textural  change  - 
below  the  mark  of  a  little  scarp  that  defines  it, 
the  texture  is  very  smooth.    Above  that  it  has  the 
lineated  and  typical  mountain  front  texture  for  the 
Apennine  -  for  the  Imbrium  range. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Bob,  I  might  siommarize  my  impression  of  the  rilles 

in  the  vicinity  of  Euler  and  their  relationship  to 
the  mare  ridges.     I've  been  able  to,  over  the  last 
d.ay  -  just  generally  searching  it  out,  I've  been 
able  to  find  rilles  that  clearly  cross  and  separate 
portions  of  ridges.    And  ridges  that  clearly  cross 
and  partially  bury  rilles.     And  in  another  third 
case,  a  rille  that  appears  to  be  levied  -  that  is, 
have  banks  of  -  flat  banks  on  either  side,  but 
near  the  end  of  it,  it  transitions  into  a  mare 
ridge,  very  clearly.     It  looks  as  if,  to  me,  that 
the  rille  and  ridge  problem  in  here  is  just  one 
of  repetitive  compression  and  extension  within  the 
surficial  flows  of  the  Imbrium  Basin.     And  that 
possibly  during  the  compressive  stages,  there  were 
extrusions  locally  along  the  ridge  system,  but  in 
the  main  part,  the  ridge  systems  represent,  I 
think,  a  doming  it  looks  like  just  a  doming  of  the 
mare  surface  except  for  these  local  ridgelike 
extrusions . 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  I  might  also  add  that  the  rilles,  to  r.e ,  seem  to 

be  made  up  of  zigzag  straight  line  segr.ents  rather 
than  being  truly  sinuous.    ?hey  appear  sinuous 
because  of  the  rounding  of  the  corners  ,  but  in  - 
my  impression  is  that  they're  really  made  up  of 
straight  line  segments . 

09  13  22  1+3     CMP  And,  Houston,  on  mag  Victor  Victor  -  Ch  -  well, 

I'm  on  number  23  now,  and  the  last  ones  before  23 

there  were  taken  of  the  spacecraft  sunset 
terminator . 


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Roger,  Ron.     Jack,  we  just  had  a  feed-in  to  your 
answer  to  your  question  from  ALSEP.    The  PI  has  not 
seen  enough  data  at  this  time  to  draw  any  conclu- 
sions regarding  the  depth  of  the  mantle  in  the 
landing  area.    And  we've  got  another  "bomh  charge 
due  to  go  off  here  in  about  -  a  short  time;  let 
me  check  it. 


LMP  Okay,  I'll  wait  until  we  get  hack.     Thank  you. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  That  next  charge  goes  off  in  I5  minutes.  Jack.  I 

don't  have  an  exact  GET  yet. 

cm  Bob,  is  the  LCRU  still  working? 

CC  Say  again,  please. 

CDE  Bob,  this  is  Geno.     I  was  just  wondering  if  the 

LCRU  and  the  TCU  were  still  working? 

CC  They  think  the  LCRU  failed  last- night. 

CC  Gene,  they  are  going  to  try  it  again  today,  but 

they  could  not  get  a  -  raise  it  last  night  and 
they  think  it  failed. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  We'd  like  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN,  please. 

09  13  3h  5^    LMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  Has  Mark  come  up  with  a  preliminary  heat  flow  num- 

ber yet  or  is  he  still  equilibrating? 

CC  We'll  check  that.  Jack. 

CC  Jack,  nothing  on  that  -  -;:he  heat  flow  yet.  It's 

still  stabilizing.  It'll  be  awhile  before  they  get 
any  data.     But  we're  watching  the  data  play  out 


here  on  the  TV  screen.     They  just  had  another  one 
of  those  charges  go  off  and  it  really  does  rap  the 
old  heaters. 


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LMP  Excellent. 

09  13  38  50    CDR  Kouston,  MAPPING  CAMERA  is  OFF;  and  the  IR's  OFF; 

PM  CAMERA  SELF  TEST,  OFF;  UV  is  OFF;  and  the  DATA 
SYSTEM'S  OFF;  and  SM/AC  POWER  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  we  -  I  think  we  copy  that  configuration  change 

there.     We're  about  6  minutes  to  LOS.     Just  -  on 
the  next  pass,  just  be  advised,  we're  going  to 
change  the  HF  antenna  retract  times  to  let  them 
warm  up  a  little  bit  more.     We'll  call  you  on  that 
before  we  want  the  HF  antennas  retracted.     And  Just 
an  update,  it's  Miami  10  to  nothing  over  Baltimore 
at  the  half. 


CDR 

CDR 

CC 
CDR 

CMP 


Okay,  we'll  stand  by  on  a  call  on  the  retraction 
and  got  the  score  10  to  nothing. 

Hello,  Houston;  America.     When  do  want  us  to  con- 
figure the  DSE?    Do  you  want  us  to  wait  a  couple 
minutes? 

Roger.     We'd  like  you  to  wait  a  couple  minutes. 

Okay,  we'll  stand  by  for  your  call  on  DSE  and  the 
HIGH  GAIN. 

Houston,  America;  are  you  giving  any  odds  on  the 
time  we  might  get  the  barber  pole  on  the  lunar 
sounder? 

We  don't  think  you'll  get  it  this  group  but  that 
pad  is  now  about  a  i|-mlnute  pad.     But  it's  getting 
so  close  I'd  like  to  watch  it. 


CMP  Okay. 

CC  America,  if  we  should  lose  you  before  our  published 

LOS  here,  check  the  DSE  and  when  you  get  -che  barber 
pole,  you  can  reconfigure.     We're  rewinding  that 
tape  now. 

IMP  Yes,  sir. 

CC  Ckay^  it's  all  rewound.     You  can  go  anead  ana 

configure  the  DSE. 


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CMP  Eey,  Bob,  vhat  about  us  configuring  high  gain. 

We're  getting  close  to  T-start. 

09  13  ^5  25    GC  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

09        03  XX  BEGIN  LUKAE  REV 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  155/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAJMSCRIPTION 


09  1^  30  31     CC  Hello,  America,     Houston  is  standing  by. 

CMP  Hey,  America  -  Houston,  this  is  America.  We've 

got  you  loud  and  clear.     A  little  late  on  picking 
you  up  that  time,  but  worked  okay.     Okay,  on 
mag  Q,  Quebec  -  it's  finished  right  now,  and 
whatever  frame  number  it  was  on  when  they  left  the 
lunar  surface  to  1^3.     Q?     Oh,  K,     Mag  Kilo,  okay. 
'i"Jhatever  frame  they  were  on  on  the  lunar  surface 
to  li+3  were  selected  shots  by  the  LMP.     ?ranie  1^+3 
to  172  were  near-side  terminator  photos  of 
Ts  i  olkovsky . 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  copy  that  right  from  the  Flight 

Plan  change . 

09  Ih  31  39     CMP  Okay.     And  PAM  CAMERA  to  STEREO  -  Jack,   ...  help 

me  get  it.     Verify  STANDBY  on  STEREO.     Okay,  PAN 
CAMERA  POWER  coming  ON.     Oops,  stand  by  here. 
Okay.     V  over  H,  HIGH  ALTITUDE. 

09  1^  31  59     CMP  Okay,  PAN  CA:4ERA  to  POWER.     Okay,  got  the  power. 

Okay,  we've  got  a  T-start  coming  up  here  at  2it:07, 
12  minutes.     ...  suppose  that's  what  it  should  be 
...  yes,   ...     Let's  see,  Houston,  America.     I  only 
have  one  pan  camera  pad  here.     Is  that  correct? 

CC  Let  me  see.     We've  got  one  sitting  right  in  front 

of  us  for  233 :U0.     Do  you  want  that  one? 

CJiP  I  don't  have  that  one. 

CC  Yes. 

CM?  I've  got  the  one  that  starts  at  2k -.07  ana  enas 

at  38:^+2. 

CC  That's  correct,  and  you  don't  have  trie  oLher  0110 

because  we  never  said  it.     We've  got  it  here 
ready  to  go . 


Oh ,  okay 


Tape  155/2 


CC  Okay,  T-start  time,  233:^+8:15;  T-stop  is  23i+:00:30, 

CMP  Okay,  photo  pad  is  -  T-start  is  233:46:15,  T--;top 

is  23i+:00:30. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     And  let  me  give  you  some  words  here 

that  you  might  be  interested  in.     Right  now  we're 
looking  at  probably  pulling  in  those  antenna  at 
233:1+5  or  U6 ,  right  in  that  time  frame.     If  those 
maneuvers  -  that  should  not  work,  we  shall  have 
to  jettison  the  antennas  at  around  23^:3  -  235:39. 
We  have,  and  we  won't  give  it  to  you  ^Lintil  ve 
need  it.     We  have  a  VERB  k9  maneuver  to  a  jet- 
attitude  for  23^+: 25,  and  that'll  keep  in  that 
attitude  and  then  we'll  jettison  the  antennas 
at  235:^3,  and,  of  course,  we'll  have  to  bring  up 
the  logic  power  on  those.     We  have  this  all 
available  standing  by  and  there's  no  sense  passing 
it  until  we  find  out  how  the  antennas  do  on 
RETRACT . 

CMP  Okay,  that  sounds  reasonable.     Do  you  have  the,  or 

you  want  to  use,  the  page  in  the  Experiments 
Checklist  there? 


CC 


CMP 


Roger.  Except  for  the  NOUN  78s.  We'll  change 
those . 


CMP  Oh,  okay.     Soxmds  good. 


It's  in  the  Volkswagen  pocket.  Okay, 


u9        JO  05     CI-T  I  don't  think  we  ever  changed  it  though.  Okay, 

the  arrow's  there,  which  indicates  that  ve  didn't 
do  it.     Okay,  Li OH  canister  change,  19  into  A, 
take  17  and  put  it  into  A  -  A-k,     That's  correct. 

09  1^  3'!  IT    CMP  At  2k,  we  want  the  pan  camera. 

LMP  Bob,  while  we're  waiting  for  the  pan  c:jr,ora  zlr:.,- , 

a  quickie  here.     One  of  the  vaya  thai,  -^en.i^   l.,  bo 
useful  for  aetermining  the  relative  a.,;e  r,!'  he 
larger  basins,  to  nie  anyway,  is  tnt-  ubi^ncianoe  u:' 
block  fields  on  the  slopes  of  the  walls  or  tue 


Tape  155/3 


slopes  of  the  central  peaks .     Tnat  abundance 
decreasing  with  increasing  age,  and  one  of  the 
comparisons  that  I  just  made  that  it  looks  as  if 
Tsiolkovsky  and  Sklodowska  have  about  the  same 
abundance  of  -  of  block  fields  on  both  those 
features  of  the  crater. 

CMP  Okay  ... 

LMP  They  presumably  then  would  be  about  the  same  age. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     I  noted  that. 

CMP  Jack,  to  me,  Sklodowska  is  lot  more  subdued, 

though,  than  Tsiolkovsky  on  the   ...  Oh,  okay. 
It's   ...  criteria?  Yes. 

09  1^  30  J+8    CMP  And,  Houston,  the  northern  portions  -  I  hate  to 

use  mud  impact,  but  that's  what  I'll  call  it, 
multiring  basin  structure  there  and  it  also  has 
a  delta-shaped  rim  to  it.     There  is  kind  of  a 
moat  between  the  inner  ring  and  the  outer  ring 
and  then  it  slopes ,  again  a  gradual  slope  from 
the  center  of  the  crater  up  to  the  first  basin 
ring  and  with  a  steeper  slope  on  the  outside  of 
the  first  ring  going  down  into  the  moat .     And  then 
the  outer  ring  has  the  delta  -  the  delta-shaped 
rim  to  it . 

CC  Roger.     Ron,  we  copy  that. 

CMP  Okay,  k  minutes  to  -  and.  Bob,  you'll  keep  us 

honest  on  this  paxi  camera  T-start,  won't  you? 

CC  I  sure  will. 

CMP  Okay;  thank  you. 

09  1^  ^1  30     CMP  And,  Houston,  Surgeons  may  be  interesT^ea  tc.'  know 

CI"IPs  blue  bag  number  5  was  comparable  to  ground 
'cest  number  3. 

CC  Roger ,  Son . 

OIF  I  "chirik  I  should  probably  add  a  no  problems  r^oze . 


Tape  155/4 


CC  Understand,  no  problem. 

CMP  That's  affirmative  (laughter).     The  U-T  would  like 

to  make  a  comment,  but  I  won't  let  him. 

CC  Things  pretty  miserable  up  there? 

CMP  For  a  while  it  was . 


CC 


Ground  test  bag  number  3  wasn't  the  one  you  had 
to  drive  in  with,  was  it? 


CMP  Yes . 

09  1^  43  27    CC  You're  30  seconds  to  T-start  time  on  that  pan 

camera. 

CMP  Okay,  PM  CAMERA  to  OPERATE  at  07,     Jack,  I'll 

give  you  a  mark  on  that. 

CMP  Okay,  1,  2,  3,  start  at  7 ,  U ,  5 ,  6  - 

09  14  '^h  12    CMP  MARK  it.     Okay,  stop  will  be  38:i+2.     And,  Houston, 

how  would  you  like  to  have  a  VERB  7U? 

CC  Roger;  we're  standing  by  for  it. 

09  li,  hh  30    CMP  Okay,  VERB  7I+  ENTER. 

C^/[P  How  take  a  good  -  Yes  ,  I  got  a  picture  cf  one  of 

those  with  -  that  star  is  kind  of  a  classic,  I 
think.     Can  you  get  it?     I  can  get  it  right  here, 
a  lot  easier.  Jack.     Yes,  that's  all  right,  I  can 
do  it.     Lay  down  beside  it.     There  we  go.  That's 
8  at  1/250 ;  that'll  be  good.     Okay,  is  that  what 
we  call  Star?     Okay,  that's  right,  I  didn't  think 
this  was  Star.     That's  the  one  I  was  tallying  about 
having  the  polygonal  base  on  it  and  it's  west  of 
Mare  Smythii  for  sure.     I  don't  know  where  we  - 
directly  south  of  -  eastern  edge  of  Fecunaitatis . 
And  that's  frame  number  1^ ,  I  guess,  of  mag  Papa 
Paija. 


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09  14  i+7  10     GC  Ron,  if  you'll  give  us  ACCEPT,  we'll  give  you 

your  TEI  REFSf*IAT. 

09  lit  UT  17    CMP  Outstanding.     You  have  ACCEPT. 

L:4F  And,  while  we  are  getting  a  TEI  REFSMI^iAT ,  there's 

a  fairly  striking  grahen  on  the  very  north  edge 
of  Fecunditatis  5  south  of  Crisiuin  -  just  south  of 
Crisium.     And  it  starts  in  the  west  within  the 
Fecunditatis  Mare  and  then  curves  gradually  up 
through  the  Sculptured  Hills  structure  to  the 
north.     And,  there's  a  crater,  looks  like  a 
suhdued  impact  crater,  right  on  that  structure, 
and  you  can  see  the  trace  of  the  graben  down  the 
walls  -  the  west  wall  of  the  crater  and  up  the 
east  wall.    And  it  does  -  from  directly  overhead, 
it  appears  to  taper  downward.     The  walls  of  the 
graben,  that  is,  get  closer  together  as  it 
approaches  the  bottom  of  the  crater.     And  on  the 
south  wall  of  the  graben,  as  exposed  in  the  west 
wall  of  the  crater,  there's  a  fairly  sharp  - 
sharply  defined  white  area  in  the  talus . 

09  1^  ^3  5^     CC  America,  the  computer's  yours ^  you  can  go  to  BLOCK. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  in  BLOCK. 

ijMP  With  the  old  pan  camera  running,  we  probably  can 

find  that  graben  structure  in  there  pretty  well. 

CMF  Yes,  we  ought  to  get  some  good  pictures.  It 

isn't  quite  as  good  that  way,  but  you -do  get 
some  pictures  anyhow. 

CMP  That's  what  I  was  trying  to  figure  out.,  Houston, 

what's  that  big  crater  we're  going  over  right  now 

in  Feciinditatis?     It's  probably  on  your  map  -  Yes, 
Taruntius ,  that's  it.  Yes. 

LxM;-"  Speaking  of  grabens  again  -  how's  our  iion  ciimerji 

doing? 

CMr'  36,  and  we  still  got  l6. 


speaking  of  grabens  again,  on  the  southeasLern 
blanket  of  Taruntius,  about  a  crater  radius 
outward,  there's  a  crater  looks  like  an  impact  also 
on  a  trace  of  a  graben ,  and  in  this  case  the  ejecta 
blanket  that  extends  out  along  the  graben  both  to 
the  west  and  to  the  east  is  noticeably  blue  gray 
against  the  tan  gray  of  the  Fecunditatis  or  at 
least  the  Taruntius  ejecta  blanket.  Basically, 
it  looks  like  blue-gray  wings  on  the  crater  along 
the  direction  of  the  graben, 

Roger ,  Jack . 

Looking  at  the  crater  stratigraphy  in  the  north- 
eastern and  northern  portions  of  Tranquility,  it 
looks  as  if  you  could  say  that  there  are  blue-gray 
mare  materials  overlying  very  light  gray  material 
of  some  kind.     And  without  any  strong  exceptions 
that  I've  seen  and  it  resembles  the  same  stratig- 
raphy that  I  think  I  talked  about  yesterday  on 
the  annulus  of  Serenitatis  and  that  goes  along 
with  what  1  think  Ron  told  you,  that  the  visual 
appearance  of  the  annulus  and  the  northern 
Tranquility  Mare,  on  the  surface  is  indistin- 
guishable . 

Yes,  that's  right. 

It  also  suggests  that  the  mare  in  here's  relatively 
thin  if  you're  getting  down  to  whatever  the 
basement  rock  is  and  that's  being  represented  by 
the  light  gray.     The  legends   [?]  of  the  blue-gray 
material  are  high  up  in  the  crater  ana  really 
appear  to  form  only  about  -  oh,  a  fifth  to  a  sixth 
of  the  wall  height.    And  I'll  give  you  a  crater  - 
There's  a  crater  right  between  the  two  Cauchy 
rilles  that  shows  this  fairly  well.     Anci  Ross 
Crater  also  shows  it  a  little  farther  along,  T 
remember  from  l^ast  time . 

Cauchy  Crater,  isn't  it? 

Yes,  Cauchy  Crater  is  the  one  1  was  talking  about 
that's  between  the  two  rilles.     Actuallv ,  it's 
not  as  well  defined  in  Cauchy  as  it  is  in  seme 
of  the  other  craters . 


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09  1^+  5^  LMP  The  western  end  of  the  Cauchy  rilles  ,  both  north 

and  south  ones,  seem  to  have  a  right  lateral  or 
echelon  structure,  hut  along  the  trace  still  to 
the  west  of  the  crater  Cauchy  that  locally  changes 
to  left  lateral. 

CW  And,  Houston,  even  at  the  high  Sun  angle  here,  the 

ejecta  of  the  -  oh,  four  or  five  recent  craters 
around  Karaldl ,  still  kind  of  a  bluish-gray, 
light-bluish-gray.     The  floor  of  the  crater 
Maraldi  is  essentially  a  dark  -  more  of  a  dark  gray 
today,  I  guess,  than  anything.     And  the  ejecta 
patterns  on  that  are  the  same  albedo  and  color 
distinctions  as  the  ones  in  the  landing  site . 
And,  the  landing  site  itself,  from  this  angle, 
I  think  is  going  to  -  No,  once  we  get  up  at  the 
same  viewing  angle  as  we  had  on  Maraldi  ,  the 
mantling  m.aterial  in  the  landing  site  is  the  sarr;e 
color,  same  albedo  as  Maraldi. 

GC  Roger. 

CMP  ...  in  the  crater  Maraldi . 

09  1^  56  51    CMP  Yes,  I  get  just  a  tint  of  -  yes,  I  was  going  to 

say,  well  no,  I  still  get  a  feeling  that  there's 
just  a  twinge  of  the  orange  or  tannish  orange 
around  Shorty  looking  at  it  with  the  binocs. 
What's  that  black  btimp  on  the  sides  -  on  the  - 
Let's  see,  south  of  the  southern  side  of  the 
South  Massif.     Can  you  see  that  one.  Jack? 

Ci^P  Okay,  we  ought  to  be  getting  ready  for  ?38.  About 

another  minute.  Jack.     TAN  CAMEM  to  dTASDBY. 
At  38:1+2. 

CM?  Okay,  35  now  and  we  want  to  stop  it  at  K'^l.  Okay. 

09  1^  58  hh     CM?  >IARK  it.  OKay. 

GC  America,  we'd  like  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIK . 

09         55  56     eye  AUTO  it  is. 


Tape  155/8 


CC  Ron,  the  mambers  on  magazine  RR  show  that  you 

have  nine  spare  frames  and  you  will  need  nine 
frames  there  for  calibration,  so  looks  like  you'll 
have  nine  frames  on  mag  RE  for  whatever  you  want 
to  use  them  on. 

CMP  Okay,  let's  see  now.    We  have  jiost  this  next  pass 

coming  up  here? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

CMP  ...  on  85  now.     Okay,  and  Tsiolkovsky,  we  got 

those  the  last  time  with,  on  the  LM  mag  is  that 
correct? 

09  15  00  28    CMP  Hey,  Jack,  we  want  to  get  D-Caldera  to  high  Sun 

here  too.     And  then,  yes,  and  then  the  crater  with 
the  dike  in  it,  because  I  think  we  probably  should 
get  those  -  Yes,  Papa  Papa,  yes.     And  then  as 
soon  as  you  finished  with  those,  we'll  switch  niags 
and  I'll  whip  over  there  and  take  some  terminator 
photos.     Okay,  let's  see.     Hey,  Houston,  you  sure 
you  want  to  start  retracting  the  antennas? 

CC  Oh,  stand  by,  Ron.     Just  to  answer  your  question 

on  mag  Romeo  Romeo,  you  can  take  it  to  an  absolute 
number  of  106  on  the  frame  count,  and  the  remainder 
must  be  used  for  calibration. 

CiMP  Okay,  then  IO6  is  far  as  we  can  go  on  that  one. 

Okay.     Thank  you. 

CM?  Fine.  Okay. 


CC  America,  Houston.     After  we  start  the  t 

at  233:'48:15,  we  would  like  then  to  go 
to  retract  HF  antenna  number  2.     Number  2  first, 
please . 

CMP  Okay.     As  soon  as  I  get  the  pan  camera  started, 

we'll  go  to  retract  on  that. 


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CW  Jack,  are  you  talking  alDout  the  one  that's  got  the 

red  ejecta  out  to  the  east?    Y6s.     Right  now.  Just 
now  looking  down  there.     Is  that  the  one  you  were 
talking  ahout?     Okay.     It's  just  now  coining  up. 
...  See.     Okay,  can  you  see  D-Caldera?  Okay. 

CMP  Okay,  I'll  get  it.  Yes. 

CMP  Let's  see,  we're  almost  at  suhsolar.     Wait  a 

minute,  I  don't  know  where  we  are.     Right.  We'i'e 
way  past  suhsolar.     Yes,  I  think. 

09  15  04  58    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  on  Papa  Papa  frames  -  let's  see  - 

13  and  ik  were  of  the  crater  with  the  red,  "brown 
to  orange  vein  across  it  and  15  and  Id  were  of 
D-Caldera,  stereo  pairs. 

CMP  See  your  dark  slide,  Jack. 

LMP  And,  Houston,  I  saw  at  least  two  other  examples  of 

impact  craters  in  the  highlands  south  of  Seren- 
itatis  and  south  of  the  Sulpicius  area  that  had 
veinlike  distribution  of  red,  brown,  or  orange 
material  in  them, 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  for  terminator,  but  you  want  to  handle  the  re  - 

retract  of  the  antenna?     No,  not  yet.     Soon  as 
the  -  at  U8:15,  go  to  pan  camera  to  operate. 
Yes,  and  then  we  start  retracting  HF  number  2. 
Oh  heck,  I  cut  my  finger  on  the  dark  slide.  Boy, 
that  son  of  a  buck.     Yes.     That's  right.  Yes, 
we'll  time  it  through  to  start  with  HF  number  2. 
3e  8:15,  47:15,        twice.     And,  let's  see,  where 
does  this  thing  start?     52,  I  guess.     I\o ,  57- 

09  15  05  11    CMP  Okay,  1+8:15,  stand  by.     11,  12,  13,  lU  - 

09  15  06  15     CMP  ;-IARK  it.'     Okay.     And,  Houston,  HF  antenna  number  2 

is  going  to  RETRii.CT.     3,  1  - 

09  15  05  50     CAP  MARK  it.     Barber  pole. 


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CMP  They  can  do  it  down  there.     But  in  caae   ...  Let's 

see.     I  think  they've  been  taking  ahouu  2  n-.inutes  , 
last  time  -  I  forgot  for  sure.     Houston  knows. 
How  ahout  long  is  it  supposed  to  take  to  retract 
nxjmber  2  this  time?     (Laughter)     Any  guesses? 

130  seconds  would  be  nominal  retraction. 

130,  hiih?    Would  be  nominal?     Number  2,  yes. 
No,  that's  number  1  on  your  side. 

09  15  10  10     CMP  That's  the  one  -  we  had  trouble  getting  it  out:, 

the  second  time,  and  finally  did.     Just  took  a 
long  time  to  get  out  there.     Yes,  we  were  taking 
it  out  and  in. 


CC 
CMP 


Gene,  yes,  we're  doing  this  now,  and  we  need  a 
T-stop  here,  at  this  time  -  on  the  pan  camera. 


CC  How  does  the  barber  pole  look  up  there,  boys? 

CMP  . . . ,  Gene . 

09  15  11  20    LMP  It  looks  gray.     Okay,  ... 

CC  Okay,  that's  a  full  retract. 

CMP  Good.  Beautiful. 

LI>1P  Now  you  want  to  do  number  1? 

CC  That's  affirmative  and  the  time  of  the  other 
was  1:55- 

LMP  Shall  I  start  on  number  1  now? 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Going  to  RETRACT  on  number  1. 

09  15  11  iti4    LMP  lAAHK  it.     Barber  pole. 

09  -5  11  ^7     CDR  Okay,  Houston.     I  got  it  visually  going  in. 

CMP  Yes,  it  doesn't  come  in  very  fast,  does  it? 


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CMP  (Laughter) 

CMP  Oh,  yes,  yes,  yes,  yes. 

CMP  Oh,  okay, 

CMP  Boy,  okay. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Go  to  OFF  on  the  switch  where 

it's  stall  current.  Do  you  have  a  "barher  pole  or 
is  it  gray? 


CI'4P  It  was  still  a  harher  pole.    And  do  you  want 

number  2  OFF ,  also? 

CC  Stand  hy ,  Ron. 

CyiP  Just  asking. 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron,  number  2  to  OFF. 

09  15  15  04    CMP  Okay,  numher  2  Is  going  to  OFF,  now? 

CC  Okay,  and  the  preliminary  quick  look  shows  a 

nominal  retract  on  both  of  them,  Ron. 

CMP  Mighty  fine.     That's  good.     Although  I  was  - 

had  -  getting  the  camera  ready  to  take  some 
pictures . 

09  15  l6  29     CMP  Well,  look  at  the  one  down  here  by  -  You  can  pick 

linear  segments  if  you  want  to  on  some  of  them. 
One  long  one  that  goes  all  the  way  across  there 
now,  it's  got  a  bunch  of  -  Well,  this  is  a  ... 
synthius   [sic]  one  down  right  down  here.     Lock  at 
this  one.     Right  -  right  down  there.     See,  Just 
this  side  of  that  little  -  the  short  one. 


OIP  Okay,  give  me  a  holler  on  that  pan  camera  when  it 

comes  up  because  I'm  going  zo  be  taking  pictures 
here;  f/8  at  1/250.     Boy,  iu  really  shows  up  a  flow 
from  the  Tobias  Mayer  area  coming  on  out  to  -  I 
don't  know  whether  -  is  thsx  xhe  Bess  el  Rille  or 
something  like  that?     I  don't  know  what  xhat 
Rille  is.     I  agree  with  you.  Jack,  ir.  that  whatever 


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T-hat  rille  is,  that's  r-anning  east  arid  west 
there  -  made  up  of  linear  segments ,  except  for 
the  curves  around  the  corner  (laughter) . 

CMP  Yes,  I  think  that's  Prinz  on  up  there  just  -  Yes, 

see  there.     Can  you  get  them  hack  there? 

CDR  Yes . 

CMP  Here,  take  it.     Should  -  should  he  -  Oh,  the 

lowest  one? 

CDR  Yes,  on  your  right-hand  side. 

CMP  Oh,  well,  let  me  get  these  first  then.     Or  -  can 

you  get  those  now? 

CDR  Yes . 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Here.     I'll  get  the  pan  camera.     That's  the 

lowest  one.     Yes,  that's  the  terminator,  right 
on  the  terminator.    I  got  something  on  it. 
Okay.     Here.     Need  a  hack  here.  Gene. 

09  15  20  33    CMP  Okay?     Okay,  PAN  CAMERA  to  STAJJDBY . 

CDR  You  got  it? 

CMP  Yes .     What ' s  my  frame  number  here?     Oh ,  wait 

a  minute.     It's  105.     We'll  take  one  more  picture 

CC  Ron,  did  you  get  the  pan  camera  to  T-atopV 

LMP  Yes,  sir.     ...  good,  got  it. 

CM?  Frame  106,     That's  the  last  one  we  coula  use  on 

this  one . 

CM?  Where  -  where 's  our  stars?    Let  me  take  a  look, 

can  I?     Oh,  yes.     Okay.     Down  in  R-1. 


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ClyCP  Okay,  let's  see. 

lii'^P  -  -  I  didn't  take  this  one.     Houston,  in  earth- 

light,  ve  have  a  dim  but  good  view  of  the  Cobra's 
Head  and  Schroter's  Valley  and  the  Aristarchus 
Plateau.     It's  not  as  "bright  as  It  was  the  first 
night  we  were  here,  but  still  light  enough  to 
distinguish  their  outlines. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay.     That's  all  the  hoses   ...  her.  And, 

Houston,  we're  ready  to  go  to  RETRACK  on  the 
MAPPING  CAMERA.  Okay   

CC  Okay,  we're  watching  it. 

CW  -  -  3,  2,  1  - 

09  15  22  50     CMP  MARK  it.     Barber  pole.     Okay,  we'll  stand  by  on 

our  cue  for  ...  camera.  Okay. 

CMP  Well ,   ...  know  how  to  do  that . 

CG  PAN  CAMERA  POWER  to  OFF,  America. 

09  15  23  53    LMP  power's  off. 

09  15  2^4  02     LMP  Okay,  LASER  ALTIMETER'S  OFF. 

CMP  Okay,  stand  by  for  P52. 

L^IP  Okay,  the  MAPPING  CAJffiRA  COVER  is  going  CLOSE. 

09  15  2l  33     LvIP  MARK  it. 

CC  Negative,  negative  on  that,  please. 

IMP  And,  it's  gray. 

CMP  Hey,  negative.     Don't  -  Well,  he  got  away  with  it. 


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CDR 


-hat's  my  fault.  Boh.     I  thought  that  car.era 
was  already  in,  when  you  gave  us  the  C-0  on  that. 

And  I  put  it  hack  to  OPEN,  and  it  went  harber  pole, 
then  gray  again,  and  it  acted  properly. 


CG  Roger. 

09  15  25  23    CMP  The  MAPPING  CAMERA'S  CLOSED  now.     It's  RETRACTED, 

I  mean.     Yes,  we're  okay. 


Houston,  we'll  stand  hy  for  your  GO  on  closing 
the  cover. 


CO  Roger.     Stand  hy. 

CC  Ron,  we'd  like  one  test  here.     We'd  like  to  take 

the  MAPPING  CAMERA  TRACK  switch  to  RETRACT  and 
verify  the  barher  pole  stays  gray. 

09  15  26  37    CMP  Houston,  it's  in  RETRACT  right  now  or  still  is 

and  has  been  all  the  time,  and  barber  pole  is 
still  -  I  mean  is  still  gray. 

CC  Okay,  you're  clear  to  CLOSE  the  MAPPING  CAMERA/ 

LASER  ALTIMETER  COVER. 

CMP  Okay. 

09  15  27  00     CDR  Okay,  it's  CLOSED,  barber  pole,  then  gray. 

09  15  30  12    CMP  Ah  ha,  I  recognize  Sirius . 

CC  Gave  you  another  easy  one,  h^oh? 

CMP  Yes,  another  easy  one. 

CM?  That's  Regulus,  I  think.     Isn't  it?     22.     Yes,  is 

that  one  -  yes  -  Okay.     The  dot  on  the  question 
mark. 


CMP 


It's  a  little  hard  to  see,  but  I  think  that's  i 


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Cl'^P  Yes,  maybe  I  ought  to  do  that  one  again.  Yes. 

CMP  Rigel,  this  time,  okay? 

09  15  33  00    CMP  (Humming)     21,  Alphard.     Okay,  that's  down  Delow 

Sirius . 

GiMP  Okay,  there's  0.01. 

CC  We'll  "buy  that. 

CMP  Plus  0.065;  minus  O.O5O;  minus  0.039.     Okay,  we'll 

torque  at  1^:50. 

CC  Roger,  Ron,     We  copied  those. 

CMP  No,  it  won't  make  any  difference.  Okay. 

09  15  3^  29     CMP  Okay;  1  ENTER.     Okay,  let's  torque  her  -  let's  go 

to  the  TEI  REFSMMAT.     551^^.    A^out  90  degrees 
from  pl~ch,  isn't  it?    Difference?     Yes,  okay. 
That's  good.     Ground  knows  what  they're  doing. 
Okay,  we're  in  CMC,  FREE,  let's  coarse  align  it. 
Okay,  PROCEED.    Ho  ATT. 

09  15  35  22     CMP  Okay,  let's  picapar.     Okay,  it  still  likes  Rigel, 

(Humming)  not  if  there's  a  hig  one, 

09  15  36  22     CMP  Twenty-one,   should  be  Alphard,  I  think.     Two  stars, 

huh? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  a  long  ways  away  off.     It's  outside 

of  the  field  of  view  of  the  sextant.     Both  of 
them  were . 

CP'tP  Okay,  21.     Yes.     Yes,  let's  coarse  -  let's  xorcue 

this  ana  then  I'll  do  another  one. 

CMP  (Humming).     Yes.     Yes.  Yes. 

09  15  38  36    CMP  Yes,  that  "brought  it  in  there  nice  and  close. 

We'll  just  tweak  her  up  just  for  the  neck  of  it. 
Yes. 


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09  15  39  30     CMP  Well,  ptttth!     How's  our  time  doing? 

CMP  Well,  that  was  close  enough,  really,  but  -  That's 

within  the  limits,  but  I'd  like  to  get  her  down 
to  at  least  0.01. 

09  15  ^0  28    CDR  Hello,  Houston.     You  want  those  0    tank  HEATERS 

pulled  OK?  ^ 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Geno. 

CDR  Okay,  then  we'll  pull  the  Og  TANK  50  WATT  HEATERS  - 

three  of  them  -  yes ,  the  50-WATT  HEATERS . 

09  15  J+0  1+1    CDR  Three  of  them  OPEU  and  the  0     1  and  2  100-WATT 

HEATERS,  CLOSED. 

CC  America,  Houston. 


!DR 


CDr 


Okay,  those  heaters  are  taken  care  of,  Houst.on 


We  see  you  going  around  the  corner  here  and  you're 
looking  good  as  you  go  by  us . 

CDE  Okay,  thank  you. 

CMP  Well,  the  heck  with  it  (laughter).  Okay 
(laughter) . 

CC  You  got  lots  of  CMPs  watching  today,  Ron. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CDR  CDR  has  taken  over,  now. 

CC  Do  you  take  credit  for  that  last  zero,  two? 

LMF'  And  after  that,  -&he  LMP  tries  one. 

CvIP  (Laughter) 


So,  sir.  1  just  got  tired  of  looking  at  it; 
that's  why  I'm  going  to  do  the  next  one. 


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CC  Ron,  Stu  said  that  all  CMPs  ought  to  accept  a 

two.     It  just  malces  you  more  humble. 

CMP  Yes,  I  know.     I've  really  accepted  it,  hut  I  just 

thought  I  could  do  hetter. 

LT^P  And  one  thing  that  you  can't  do  is  make  Ron  more 

humble . 

09  15  ^3  hh    CC  Just  a  reminder  with  1  minute  to  go,  Ron.  We 

want  to  remind  you  to  go  back  to  auto  -  to  the 
autopilot  when  you're  done  with  your  52s  and  the 
final  score  in  the  game  was  16  to  nothing. 
Miami  over  Baltimore. 

CMP  Okay,  mighty  fine.     Commander's  down  there  trying 

his  luck,  now. 

CC  We're  all  watching.     VJe  just  hope  we  see  it 

before  you  go  LOS. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

09  15        21    CDR  If  you  don't  hear  about  it,  if  you  miss  it,  don't 

worry  -  - 


09  16  02  XX  BEGIN  LUNAR  Rm  75 


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Ar-OLLO  1?  AIR-TO-GROmiD  VOICE  TRAKSCRIPTION 


09  16  3^  Ou     CC  Hello,  America;  Houston.  Over. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston.     How  do  you  read  America?  Over. 

CC  Merica,  this  is  Houston.     You're  loud  and  clear 

on  your  last  time  around.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     You're  loud  and  clear.     We  thought 

we'd  lost  you  xhere  for  a  little  bit. 

CDR  And  we're  just  finishing  up  an  eat  period,  and 

looked  around,  and  the  spacecraft  still  looks  good 
on  board. 

CC  Okay .     Sounds  good . 

CBR  Got  some  gyre  torq^uing  angles,  if  you'd  like  them, 

please . 


C  Okay;  go  ahead. 


:dr 


.iVP 


Okay;  the  last  P52  produced  gyro  torque  of  minus  Oil, 
minus ^007,  and  minus  002;  GET  torque  time  was 
23it:26:0T.     And  let's  just  let  it  suffice  to  say 
we  torqued  on  the  commander's  P52. 


09  16  35  52    CC  Okay. 

09  16  38  55    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


N';p  Yes,  Gordy.     Gene  was  trying  to  call  you  guys  r'or 

ahout  L  or  5  minutes,  aft^er  we  had  fairly  good 
up-iink  signal  strength,  and  you  didn'^  answer, 
until  you  said  that  was  i:he  first  time  you'd  called. 
Is  thax  something  that  you  can  explain  down  there? 

c  1  rhmk        is,  but  let  me  make  sure  I  get  the 

rignt  answer  here. 


we  aia  not  change  any  configuration  in  ^he  space- 
craft during  that  5  minutes  . 


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GC  Roger, 


.9  ^6  40  55     CC  ili-nerica,  Houston.     I  guess  we  don't  have  an 

explanation.     We  checked  with  the  site,  they  were 
locked  on  and  I  can't  see  any  reason  why,  if  you 
were  coming  down,  that  we  didn't  hear  you. 

CC  America,  Houston.     You  read  now? 


LMP 


CC 


LMP 


U'JiP 
CER 
CC 


Oh,  that's  affirm,  Gordy.     Sorry,  I  -  we  were 
discussing  whether  or  not  we  had  really  transni^'tted 
apparently  we  had.  "  ' 

Okay.     We'll  keep  checking  here,  "out  first  glance 
doesn't  turn  up  the  -  any  answers. 

Okay.     Well,  after  the  next  run,  we  would  like  to 
have  comm  as  soon  as  possible,  and  that's  what  1 
was  checking  on. 


CC  Roger. 

09  16  k3  10    CC  America,  Houston.     We're  ready  with  all  the  updates, 

both  verbal  and  electronic,  whenever  you  are. 

Okay.     Stand  by  a  few,  please. 
Houston,  you  want  the  computer? 

That's  affirmative.     We're  ready  with  the  up-link. 

09  16  1^3  112     CDR  Okay.     You've  got  ACCEPT  now,  and  stand  bv  on  the 

updates . 

CC  Okay. 

09  16  1+6  U6    CC  America,  Houston.     The  up-link 's  in  there,  you 

can  go  back  to  BLOCK. 

C.vp  Okay . 

Ckay,  Houston.     We're  ready  to  take  final  TEI  nad 
from  you. 

^^^y»  £a,ck,  here's  the  numbers  you've  been  vaiting 
for.     TZ.,  rev  75,  SPS/GiK;  363^2;  nlu.  C.63- 
p±us  0.86;  r:aU^  33  1e  235:42:05.35;  ~lus  303-  5 
ninus  CI65.O,  plus  0C66.1;  attitude  is  18G ,  OOc' 


Tape  156/3 


and  000;  UOUI^  hh  H.    is  NA,         is  a  nlus  0022.3- 

A  P  ^  "* 

DELTA-V  total  is  30it6.1,   2:25,  3028.5;  sextant 
star  is  06,  109.5,  30,0;  boresight  star  is  M. 
mm  61  is  a  minus  IT. 8?,  minus  I66.OO;  10I-T.4; 
36172;  GET  for  0.05G  is  30^:18:32.     GDC  sTars 
are  Sirius  and  Rigel;  I36;  OTl,  035.     Ullage  is 
four  Jets,  12  seconds.    And  three  remarks:  num- 
ber 1  is  single-bank  burn  time  is  02:29.     Number  2, 
post-TEI  RCS  DELTA-V  is  equal  to  1T3  feet  per 
second.    And  number  3  remark  is  the  SPS  PU  Ox 
FLOW  VALVE,  DECREASE,  and  then  control  as  required. 
Over . 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.    Here  is  your  readback.  TEI-'*'5, 

SPS/G&N;  36372;  plus  0.63,  plus  0.86;  236 : U2 : 08  .  35  ; 
plus  3039.8,  minus  OI85.O,  plus  OO66.I;  I80,  all 
zeros,  and  all  zeros;         is  NA,  plus  0022,8; 

30U6.I,  2:25,  3028.5;  06,  109.5;   30.0;  boresight 
star  is  NA,  minus  17.87,  minus  166.OO;  10147. U; 
36172;  30it:l8:32.     Sirius  and  Rigel;  136;  O71, 
035.     The  ullage  is  four  jets  for  12  seconds. 
Remarks:     1,  single-bank  burn  time  2  plus  29; 
2,  post-TEI  RCS  DELTA-V  is  173  feet  Der  second; 
and  3,  the  SPS  PU  Ox  FLOW  VALVE  will  start  in 
DECREASE  and  then  control  as  required. 

CC  Okay.     That's  a  good  readback  and  I  have  another 

one  of  those  for  rev  76. 

LMP  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     Iz's  TEI-76,  SPS/G&N;  weight   is  36372; 

plus  0,63,  plus  0.86;   238:12:07.62;  nlus  30';'O.o^ 
minus  0283-7,  plus  OOOit.8;   180,   359,' 558;  all  the 
rest  of  the  pad  is  NA.     GDC  stars  are  Sirius  and 
Rigel;  13o,  071,  035.    Four  jets,  for  12 
The  remark  is  burn  attitude  based  on  TEI  RSFSM^IAT . 
Go  ahead. 

09  16  56  h3    L.MP  Okay.     TEI-76.     SPS/G&N;  36372;  plus  G.65, 

plus  0.66;   238:42:07.62;  plus  3079-9,  r.inus  0263.7, 
plus  OQOh.d;   l&O,  359,  358;  resT:  of  pad  is  KA. 
Sirius  and  -xigel;  I36 ,  071,  035.     Ullage  is  four 
jets  ^oi"_12  seconds,  and  the  ramark  is  b-orn  based 
on  TE^  REFSI'AL^vT . 


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CG  Okay.    And  one  more  is  a  map  update.     It  goes  or. 

Flight  Plan  opposite  236  hours  and  50  minutes  on 
the  right  side  of  the  page. 

LMP  Okay.     236:50,  right? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 


CC 

LMP 
CC 

LMP 


LiMP 

CC 
CDR 

CC 


Okay.     The  AOS  without  burn,  237:07:18;  and  the 
nominal  good  TEI  AOS  will  he  236:55:00.  Over. 

Okay.    AOS  without,  237:07:18;  AOS  with,  236:55:00 

Okay,  Jack.     We're  getting  pretty  good  with  these 
pads.     Another  3  days,  we  ought  to  have  it  down 
pat . 

I  think  so,  Gordy.  Is  that  an  offer  or  do  we  have 
a  choice? 


CC  Okay.  Yes. 


I  presume  you  meant  3  days  around  the  Moon,  didn't 
you? 

Ho,  no,  3  days  to  splashdown. 

(Laughter)     It's  all  right,  Gordy.     I  know  what 
you  meant . 

We  got  a  lot  of  parties  ulanned  we  don't  wnat  to  - 
put  off. 

Ckay.     We'd  like  the  HIGH  GAIN  on  AUTO.     And  also, 
nECOM  would  like  the        fans  reconfigures  X^jm- 
ber  2,  OFF;  number  1,  OK.  Over. 

09  16  59  59    I^XP  Okay.     As  per  EECOiM's  request,  E_  fan  2  is  OFF  and 

rum  her   1    n  =:   fiN  ^ 


number  1  is  ON. 

CC  Okay.     And  we've  taken  another  check  o: 

wi-h  AOS  this  rev.     We  have  several  s:- 
that  they  had  a  solid  down-link  sigr.al 
and  that  none  01  them  heard  you.  Wt'r. 
if  you  had  found  anything  in  auuio  r.r.r.. 
tion,  possibly,  that  would  explain  iz . 


zr.e  "•robleir. 

1  ccnfij^ura- 
Over  . 


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Gordy,  no.     But  it's  conceivable  I  could  have  been 
keying  the  intercom.     I  don't  think  so,  but  it's 
certainly  conceivable.     I  -  I  checked  everything 
else  around  here. 

Okay,  Gene.     You're  loud  and  clear  now,  so  guess 
we'll  let  it  go  at  that. 


09  IT  00  53    CMP  Houston,  this  is  command  module  pilot,  do  you  read 

me  now? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Loud  and  clear, 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  on  the  audio  panel  that  Gene  was  on  when 

he  first  transmitted. 

CC  Sounds  good. 

CMP  Okay . 

LMP  And,  Houston;  DELTA -V  test  was  minus  22.2. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo;  this  is  America.     Are  you  ready  for 

the  mapping  camera? 

CC  Roger,  Geno.     Stand  by.     Okay;  we're  ready. 

CDR  Okay . 

09  17  06  05     CDR  Okay,     MAPPING  CAMERA  is  OFF. 

09  IT  07  Ol    CDR  Okay.     MAPPISG  C.^VMERA  is  STAi\IDBY  and  IVAGS  MOT  I  OX 

is  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Houston,   I'm  going  to  -  I'm  waiting  your  cue  to 

check  out  the  number  2  pressure  Indicator. 

CC  Okay.     Stand  by.  Jack. 

LJ-iP  I'm  on  SPS,   of  course. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     VJe're  ready. 


Tape  156/6 

09  17  10  29    cm  C^ay,  Gordo.     We're  going  to  go  ahead  and  r.aneuver , 

P30  looks  good.     The   ...   flag  is  reset  for  VSR3  ^9 . 

GC  Roger . 

09  IT  10  k6     LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Then  I'm  going  hack  to  numcer  1  or. 

the  pressure  indication. 

CC  Okay.     We  watched  it. 


CMP 

CC 
CMP 


cm 


CC 


And,  Houston^  America.     The  EMS  DELTA-V  test  went 
from  plus  100  to  plus  100.5,  and  vent  from 
minus  100  to  minus  99,5. 

Copy,  Jack  -  Ron. 

Okay;  what's  our  DELTA-V  7     3028.5.     Oh,  come  on 
here.  ^ 


09  IT  12  3h    CMP  Okay;  DELTA  V    is  set.     3028.5.     We're  DELTA-V  and 


C 

STANDBY. 


09  17  12  CJ4P  Okay;  we're  caged,  RATE  2.     Okay;  we'll  put  all 

16  of  them  on.     Down,  up,  up,  down,  up,  down, 
down,  up.     We're  CMC  in  AUTO  and  DET  is  set. 

CMP  Okay. 


Houston,  America.  We'll  pick  up  the  star  sextant 
check  and  set  the  DAP  when  we're  in  attitude. 


CC  Roger. 

CC  America,  Houston  with  some  words  about  the  pan 

camera  operation  after  T3I . 

IMP  Okay,  go  ahead. 


Okay.     We  haven't  told  you  about  this,  out  we 
noticed  a  failure  during  the  last  operation  of 
the  pan  camera,  of  zhe  stereo.     It's  completely 
failed  and,  so  -  when  you  go  to  OPEP.ATZ,  which"  is 
ahout  7  minu-es  after  AOS,  after  TEI ,  you  can 
expect  to  geu  -  a  harher  pole  after  three  frames 
ha'/e  cycled  through.     Want  you  to  just  ignore 
that  and  let  her  run.     We  figure  you  have  2  min- 
utes of  fiLm  lef-,  hut  we  won'-  he  able  t:o  monitci 


Tape  156/T 


end  of  film,  because  you'll  be  on  TV  on  the  FM. 
So  we're  going  to  limit  the  pan  camera  operation 
to  5  minutes  total,  and  we'll  be  able  zo  give  you 
the  mark  when  to  turn  it  off  after  the  5  minutes. 
Over . 


CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     At  237  in  the  Flight  Plan,  where 

it's  "PAN  C.A:viERA,  OPERATE,"    we'll  ignore  the 
barber  pole.     V/e'll  run  for  5  minutes  and  we'll 
shut  it  doira  on  your  cue . 

CC  That  sounds  good. 

09  IT  16  28    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     The  PAM  GAI^CERA  is  going  to  BOOST. 

And  also,  we're  presently  configured  with  the  IR , 
ON  and  the  COVER,  OPEN.     Apparently  Flight  Plan 
neglected  to  have  us  turn  it  off,  or  are  we  supposed 
to  burn  with  it  open? 

CC  Let  me  cheek  that, 

CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  the  IR  cover  closed 

to  keep  the  Sun  out  of  it . 

CMP  Okay,  and  you  want  the  Instrument  off? 

CC  IJegative,     Leave  the  IR  on  and  I  -  I'll  get  back 

to  you  in  a  minute  on  all  these  covers. 

09  IT  18  01    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     Cover's  closed  and  we'll  wait  your 

further  word . 

CC  Ajtierica,  Houston.     On  the  covers,  we  want  all  three 

covers  closed,  according  to  the  pre-SPS  biirn  cue 
card.     The  instruments,  the  IR  and  UV,  keep 
running,  until  afzer  TEI ,  when  you  open  the  covers 
and  back  up  per  "che  Flight  Plan .     Over  . 

09  IT  19  39     LIv[P  Okay,  we'll  do  that  and  going  OMNI  Del-ca. 

LMP  Houston,  our  last  viejw  tnis  time  around  is  the 

Sun  rising  over  the  Aristarchus  Plateau  and  wit'ii 
the  Prinz  rilles  and  generally  a  continuation  of 
the  striking  views  we've  hs.d  up  to  now. 

CC  Roger . 


Tape  156/8 


LMP 


We'll  leave  this  country  -  this  part  of  this  planet 
for  the  next  group  to  explore,  I  guess. 

09  IT  27  52    CC  America,  Houston.     I  think  this  is  vhat  you  wanted 

to  hear,  you're  GO  for  TEI . 

CI^P  Outstanding. 


CDR 


Okay,  Gordo.     Understand  .iimerica  is  GO  for  TSI  and 
I'll  give  you  a  confirm  on  the  star  here,  in  just 
a  second. 


CC  Okeydoke 
CDR 


Say,  Gordo,  I'm  -  I  got  the  Moon  now  in  the  tele- 
scope, he  just  a  little  hit  before  I  can  give  you 
a  confirm  on  that,   but  the  DAP  is  set. 


Okay;  we'll  go  ahead  and  go  into  pl+O . 
LMP  Houston,  I7 . 

CC  Go  ahead. 

UvrP  Gordy,  could  you  give  me  a  summary  of  what  your 

expectations  are  on  the  operation  of  the  PUC-S? 

CC  Okay,  just  a  minute. 

CC  Jack,  Houston.     We  expect  you'll  need  decrease 

throughout  the  whole  burn.     However,  we'd  like 
you  to  control  it  as  required,  to  keep  it  in  the 
green  hand. 

Okay.     And  why  do  you  expect  that,  Gordy?  I 
missed  one  of  the  hums. 

'^^^^  "  j^st  the  way  it's  worked  from  past  history, 
that's  wnat  we  expect  this  time. 


09  17  31  36    IMP  Okay. 


i?\T^  OF  TAPE 


Tape  157/1 


AFOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-G-ROUMD  VOICE  TRAKSGRIPTIO:i 


09  IT  3^  ^3    CDR  Okay,  Houston  we're  down  to  6  minutes  in  the  check- 

list ,  except  for  a  star  sextant  check. 

G  C  Okay,  Gene. 

CC  Jack,  Houston,  with  a  further  word  on  the  PUGS.  We 

have  noticed  after  ignition,  on  previous  burns,  some 
oscillation.     We  suggest  you  stay  in  DECRiiASE  for 
the  first  25  seconds  or  so,  until  it  stabilizes 
before  you  start  controlling  it. 

LMP  Roger,  Gordy. 

CDR  Houston,  the  star  sextant  check  is  GO. 

CC  Soger. 

CG  America,  Houston.     About  2  minutes  until  LOS.  One 

reminder  about  the  DSE:     we'd  like  you  to  go  to 
LOW  BIT  RATE  just  prior  to  LOS  as  per  the  Flight 
Plan.     And  then  go  back  to  HIGH  BIT  RATE  at  6  3iin- 
utes  prior  to  ignition  per  your  burn  cue  card  and 
you  can  just  leave  it  in  HIGH  BIT  RATE  from  there 
on  through  AOS.     We  just  went  around  the  rooir.  once 
more;  everything  looks  good.       Have  a  good  burn, 
and  we'll  see  you  and  the  TV  picture  as  you  come 
out  the  other  side.  Over. 

09  IT  ^1  51     COR  Okay,  Gordy,  thank  you.     We're  looking  forwara  to 

a  good  burn.     And,  we'll  see  you  coming  out  the 
other  side. 

09  l5  IT  13     CC  America,  this  is  Houston.     We'd  like  the  nigh  gain, 

please • 

COR  Houston,  do  you  read  Arrierica? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ajnerica.     And  we  have  a  r^icture. 

Over . 

COR  Roger,  Houston.     America  has  found  so~ie  fair  vinas 

and  following  seas,  and  we're  on  our  wav  nome . 


Tape  157/2 


CC  Oliay,  that's  great  news. 

CDR  It  sure  is,  Gordo. 


CC 


You  laetcha,  by  golly.     It's  outstandingly  good. 
That  was  a  good  "burn,  too.     We'll  give  you  the  burn 
report  in  a  bit. 


CC  Okay . 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  I'll  try  to  give  you  Tsiolkovsky 

from  about  the  nadir. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  ***  focus.     Yes,  this  -  there  you  go. 

CDR  This  is  a  grand  place  to  be  right  now. 


I'll  bet  it  is,  and  we've  got  a  great  picture  of 
Tsiolkovsky.     Got  it  right  in  the  center,  and 
good  focus.     Great  picture. 


CDK  I  know  there's  not  as  many  smiling  faces  down  there 

as  there  are  up  here,  but  we're  making  up  for  the 
difference  in  numbers. 

CC  Roger. 

09  18  20  29    L:^P  Gordo,  I'll  give  you  a  quick  burn  report.  The 

burn  was  on  time.     Burn  time  was  2  minutes  and 
23  seconds.     DELTA-V^    was  30^47.0.     Attitude  at 

the  end  of  the  bxirn  was  l8i+ ,  OO5 ,  359.  That's 
l8i+,  005,  and  359.     There  was  no  trim.     'Phe  r^^sld- 
uals  are  minus  2,  plus  0.7  -  Correction,  minu:;  0.2, 
plus  0.7,  and  plus  0.2.     DELTA-V^  was  minus  l:-..l, 

CC  Soger.     We  got  those. 

09  18  21  1h    L^JIP  And,  Gordy ,   uhe  unbalance  is  about  3C  "oounds ,  and 

oxidizer  is  2.6  and  fuel  2.9,  and  I  blew  RJLL 
DECREASE  the  whole  burn. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

C2/E?  now '3  the  picture  look,  Gordy? 


Real  x'ine. 


Tape  157/ 3 


CDR  I'd  tell  ycu  exactly  what  we're  looking  at,  out  I 

can't  quite  see  it. 

LMP  Gordy,  the  country  Gene's  pointing  out,  is  soula  of 

the  orbii:  that  we've  been  following  for  several 
days,  and  Ron,  even  more  than  Gene  and  1.     And  it's 
some  of  the  striking  country  of  the  far  side  of 
the  Moon  that  human  beings  don't  very  often  have 
a  chance  to  see,  but  a  trend's  been  started  in  the 
last  few  years,  and  I  suspect  it  will  continue. 

CO  Roger,  Jack. 

GI^P  Gordy,  America  performed  superbly. 

CG  America,  Houston.      We  need  PAIS  CAT^ERA  CPERAIE, 

now . 

IMP  Thank  you.     PAN  CAI/IERA  going  to  OPERATE. 

CC  And  can  you  verify  that  you  got  the  other  GIM  bay 

items  that  precede  that? 

LMP  We're  verifying  that  right  now. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     The  SIM  bay  should  be  squared  away. 

CG  Okay.     Thank  you, 

LMP  Pardon  our  slowness  there, 

CDR  Gordy,  I'll  try  and  take  you  across  the  termins.Lor, 

if  I  can. 

CC  All  right. 

L^tP  Of  course,  we're  seeing  country  south  of  Tsiolivovsky 

that  we've  never  seen  before. 

CC  Roger. 

09  liJ  2i*  52    LMP  And  when  we  get  a  picture  cf  '''ciolkovsky  back ,  1 

think  maybe  even  you  can  see  one  of  tr.e  t-hin^s  that 
both  Son  and  I  have  noticed  about  it  is,  nu.'nbe;'  1, 
it's  a  basin  that  is  comparaole  in  itt  fresnness 
ana  apparent  age  to  the  -  probably  the  Inbriur. 
Basin  on  -che  near  side  of  the  Moon;  and,  seconv^ly, 

northeast  quaarant 


Tape  157/1+ 


that  -  frori  which  the  blanket  is  excluded.  Inere 
IS  an  apparent  slide.     We're  noL  sure  wha:;  iz  is, 
but  the  normal  indications  of  an  ejec-ca  blanr^et 
are  just  not  there, 

CC  Roger  that.  Jack;  and  we  can  see  those  features 

you  just  described.     The  camera  -  - 

LMP  Okay.     And  for  -  for  your  -  - 

^'^  -  -  if  you  can  figixre  out  a  way  to  hold  iz  a  little 

steadier,  that  would  help,  but  we're  getting  good 
resolution. 


IDE. 


CMP 


CDR 
LMP 


i»lP 


Okay,  Gordo,  I'm  working  on  it.  You'd  think  a  guy 
that's  been  there  for  however  many  days  we've  been 
there  could  find  it,  don't  you? 

When  you  see  Tsiolkovsky  south,  the  central  peaks 
form  an  arrow  that  points  south,  C-ordy. 


CC  America,  Houston.     Your  altitude  right  now  is  320  - 

835  miles.  Over. 


Okay,  835  miles.     And  climbing  out  like  a  dingbat, 

Frames  5  through  20  were  taken  on  mag  Papa  Papa, 
at  that  altitude. 


CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CMP 


There's  Smythii  down  there.     I  finally  figured  out 
where  we  are.     Right  down  underneath  the  window. 
I  can  see  it  now. 

Gordy,  as  far  as  we  can,  we'll  try  to  run  you  a 
little  bit  along  the  orbital  track.     I'll  be 
panning  the  camera  more  or  less  westward.  Tsiol- 
vosky    starting  and  Tsiolkovsky  is  irself  in  the 
crater  Fermi,  and  moving  on  to  the  east,,  the  next 
big  pair  of  craters  that  we  spent  some  time  study- 
ing is  Hilbert ,  which  is  just  south,   is  right  there, 
and  just  a  little  bit  northwest  of  there  is  Pasteur. 


Oh,  Roger,  ^jack. 


Taps  157/:? 


IMP  Both  Plilbert  and  Pasteur  appear  to  be  very  da 

oasins  ,  r.uch  older  than  Tsioikovsliy  ar.a  they  have, 
as  you  can  see,  a  fill  in  them,  apparent  Tili  - 
very  flat  looking  at  this  distance,  and  very  liti-l 
colored.     It's  an  event  on  the  I-ioon  of  whic:'.  ve 
have  relatively  little  understanding  e^t,  this  ti:r.e^ 
but  possibly  the  Apollo  l6  results,  when  they're 
fully  known,  through  the  analysis  of  tne  saiiiples 
and  other  data,  may  shed  some  light  on  tha.t  everit . 

CC  Roger.     Sorry  to  -  - 

CDR  Hey,  look  here  -  ...   

CC   interrupt,  but  we'd  like  PAN  CAliERA,  OFF,  now. 

?AU  CAMERA.  STAimSY,  rather. 

CDR  -  -  That's  a  full  circle. 

09  18  30  08    CDR  Okay,  ST/iIJDBY,     Tiow  we're  going  to  be  able  to  pan 

a  little  bit  aore  east  now  of  Pasteui"  and  start  to 
show  the  crater  Smythii,   the  basin  Strrn-hii  really. 
It's  one  of  the  older  large  basins  on  the  ?4oon. 
It  has  none  of  the  obvious  features  of  big  basins 
such  as  Imbri'um  or  Serenitatis.     But  it's  neverthe- 
less roughly  circ^ular,  has  a  mare  fill,  aiiu  a  very 
I'm  point  right  now  to  the  hint  of  a  second  ring 
outside,  but  the  main  ring  is  the  one  Ron's  talked 
to  you  a  lot  about  this  and  has  his  double-ring 
craters  in  it.     A.nd  we're  pointing  at  some  of  thos? 
right  now, 

CMP  Uh-huh. 

IMP  Okay,  Houston,  we  can  now  see  Tycho.     We're  seeing 

probably  about  75  to  80  percent,  of  the  entire 
Moon  -  face,  ar^y^^^ay  lit  up.     The  rays  of  '2ycnc 
are  very  obvious  from  here.     'want  the  ca™.era  o\'er 
there.  Gene? 

CDR  Let  me  show  it  to  them. 

CC  We  had  a  good  tour  there  of  Sxayzhi  i ,     '■■■'e  reo-;v,~izov 

the  Smith  Brothers ,  the  Wright  Brothers  and  -jturtev 
to  see  Seper  before  you  left  it. 


CMP 


AO. 


Tape  157/6 


CDR  No? 
ClJiP  No . 

LMP  IJo,  you  won't  see  Tycho  for  a  little  bit. 

09  J-8  32  35     LMP  You  can  -  Langrenus  is  now  visible  at  the  edge  of 

Fecunditatis  there,  if  you  want  to  show  that  one. 

CDR  Just  this  side  of  Fecunditatis? 

LMP  And  Humboldt  is  a  crater  that  ought  to  show  up 

very  well  on  the  television.     That's  the  craciced 
floor  crater  there  with  a  little  dark  mare. 

CDR  Okay. 

LMP  There's  all  the  swirls  in  Marginis.     You  can  really 

see  them  now. 

LMP  Oh,  yes.     Why  don't  you  get  - 


CMP 


Yes.     Can  you  get  some  of  the  swirls  - 


LMP  Okay.     Early  in  our  orbit,  and  particularly  Ron, 

he  had  the  chance  to  work  on  the  question  of  these 
light-colored  swirls  and  Marginis  has  outstanding 
examples  of  them  and  I'll  try  to  get  the  camera 
pointed  on  those  in  the  northern  part  of  Marginis. 
Let  me  orient  you,  as  soon  as  we're  focused  here. 
Okay  -  Smythii  -  I'll  point  right  at  the  center  of 
Mare  Smythii,  and  then  move  up  towards  Neper  and 
then  into  the  swirl  area  a  little  bit  more  nor^h. 
And  Gene  will  zoom  you  in  and  let  you  see  what 
some  of  that  looks  like.     1  don't  think  we  have  a 
full  answer  at  what  the  swirls  are,  but  some  of 
the  things  that  we  saw  in  Ta-orus-Littrow  and  later 
from  orbit  around  Sulpicius  Callus  may  suggest  to 
people,  from  now  on,  that  the  possibility  of  alter- 
ation from  fluids  in  the  interior  of  the  Moon  is 
more  than  just  a  possibility. 

09  Id  3^  35    CG  Roger.     That's  a  nice  shot  there  of  Marginis. 

^MP  Can  you  see  the  swirls ,  Gordy?    Are  the  very  dif- 

fused, light-coii-ored  areas  thai,  cross  various 
topographic  features? 


Tape  157/7 


CC  That's  affirmative,  Jack.     They're  visible  from 

here. 

CDR  Okay.     I'm  going  to  give  you  an  end-on  view,  if 

I  can,  of  Mare  -  of  the  Crisium  Basin.     You  should 
be  seeing  that  now. 

CMP  How  is  that,  Gene? 

CC  That's  a  good  picture  of  Crisiuci  as  it  is  very 

evident  on  the  right  side  of  our  picture. 

LMP  Yes,  that's  right.     And  before  long,  we'll  be 

able  to  show  the  landing  site  and  Taurus-Littrow 
and  I  think  you  probably  see  Proclus ,  which  is  the 
bright  crater  just  off  the  horizon  now.     That's  the 
one  with  the  excluded  ray  zone  on  its  western  or 
southwestern  side. 

CMP  It's  not  in  view  yet. 

LMP  We  may  not  see  it,  I  think  we're  going  the  other 

way. 

CDR  Right  in  the  horizon.     The  la.nding  area,  Taurus- 

Littrow,  and  the  edge  of  the  Serenitatis  Basin  is 
probably  ^ust  on  the  horizon  now  and  I'm  not  sure 
it  exactly  -  - 

CMP  You  can  see  the  dark  part  of  Serenitatis  is  stick- 

ing out  of  the  Sea  of  Proclus  the  ray-excluded  zone . 
No,  that's  Fecunditatis  sticking  up  there,  isn't  it' 
Because  the  ray  perpendicular  to  ou-r  track  now 
points  right  to  the  landing  site  right  off  of 
Proclus. 

LMP  The  area  where  one  of  tne  Russian  vehicles  set  dowi 

and  returned  saiiiples  from  is  just  about  in  the  cen- 
ter of  your  field  of  view  now.     Just  on  the  north 
side  of  Fecunditatis. 

CC  Roger.     And  you're  about  1300  miles  up  right  now. 

CDR  V/owI     That's  not  a  bad  climb  is  it,  Gcrdy? 

CC  Pretty  gooa  rate. 


Tape  157/8 


CDR  A  friend  of  mine  says  "Wow  woozle!" 

CMP  Looking  out  window  -  window  3  now,  and  the  Moon  is 

just  the  size  of  the  window,  and  I've  got  my  face 
right  up  against  the  window. 


CDR 


CDR 


LIvIP 

CMP 
L.MP 


Or  maybe  his  head's  Just  the  size  of  the  Moon. 
We're  not  sure  whish. 


CMP  (Laughter)    That's  right. 


-^  don't  know  what's  happening  down  there  now,  Gordy, 
but  this  is  where  r.he  action  was  one  time. 


09  18  37  25    CDR  Okay,  we're  starting  to,  I  think,  in  a  little  bit, 

be  able  to  show  you  the  edge  of  the  Serenitatis 
Basin.     It's  moving  a  little  slowly  right  now.  It 
looks  like  it's  creeping  over  the  horizon. 


It's  going  to  creep  over  the  horizon,  maybe,  but 
I  think  ~  - 

But  I'll  tell  you  wnat's  on  the  horizon  now.  I'm 
not  sure  l  can  get  it.     Let  me  try  the  rendezvous 
window.     I  think  I  can  show  them  Apollo  11 ' s  land- 
ing  site. 

You  can  probably  get  it  at  the  south  portion  of 
Tranquillity  there,  if  you  -  out  the  center  window 
would  be  better. 

Yes,  the  center  window,  you  could  get  it. 

See  the  southern  parx  of  Fecunditatis ,  and  tnen 
the  Tranquillitatis  takes  off  to  the  west  there, 
Gene,  right  along  that  southern  edge  of  Fecunditatis 
is  where  Apollo  11  set  down. 

Yes,  and  a  little  bit  north  of  tne  line  that  -  of 
the  ray  of  those  two  craters. 


09  ^3  3o  47    LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  in  the  center  of  your  picture  is  - 

about  right  in  there,  ~  is  the  southern  edge  of 
Tranauillity  and  the  Apollo  11  area  and  that  was 
the  ground  track,  of  course,  for  Apol_o  o  and 
A-oollo  10. 


Tape  157/9 


CC  Roger. 

Li'IP  Yes,  we'll  put  you  "back  on  Langrenus  ,  which  is 

one  of  the  Copernican-age  craters,  in  this  part  of 
the  Moon,  and  I  believe  it  was  Apollo  12  had  .an 
excellent  opportunity  for  some  several  orbits  to 
study  Langrenus. 

CC  Roger.     ¥e  see  that.     It  stands  out  like  a  beacon 

there,  on  the  right  side  of  the  picture,  and  we  also 
saw  Messier  with  its  rays. 

LMP  Okay,  our  landing  site's  in  view  now.  Gene, 

CMP  You're  a  little  bit  off  the  field  -  let  me  move  - 

you're  almost  out  of  the  field  here.     Let's  see  - 
Proclus  - 

LMP  Our  landing  area  is  just  about  in  the  center  of 

your  field  of  view  right  at  the  horizon  now. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  That's  the  best  focus  we've  got.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay,  full  zoom,  and  right  in  that  region  in  tne 

center  should  be  the  landing  site  of  Apollo  IT- 
Known,  hereafter,  I  guess,  as  the  Taurus-Littrow 
area. 

CC  You're  now  1500  miles  above  the  surface,  and  your 

climb  rate  was  just  computed  at  295  000  feet  per 
minut.e . 

CMP  . • .     (Chuckle )     That  Is  really  moving  out . 

Li^P  3-are  glad  tney  cleared  the  traffic  oux  of  the  -.vay. 

Let  me  -  Gene,  let  me  switch  over  briefly  and  show 
them  the  North  and  South  Poles,  vrhich  nobody  really 
has  done  much  with  yet,  except  for  Lunar  Grbiter  , 
and  some  of  the  Russian  vehicles.     There's  a  spec- 
tacular valley  off  -  on  the  Sou^h  Pole.     I  don'x 
know  the  name.     It  looks  like  one  of  tnese  long 
chain  of  -  -  chain  of  craters. 

CDR  Does  thau  snow  up?     Let  me  try  it  wixh  -  le"c  r.e 

T;ry  some  of  uhese  others.     Well,  oh,  here's  where 
it  goes . 


Okay,  Houston,  we're  in  -  - 
Huh?     Good  picture? 

That's  in  the  south  polar  regions.     There's  a  - 
I  think  you  can  protoahly  see  a  long  chain  of  cra- 
ters, which  so  far  unvisited  by  man.     In  fact,  the 
whole  region  has,  and  that  goes  for  the  north  pole. 

Roger,  Jack.     That's  very  interesting.     Can  you 
zoom  in  on  that  whole  valley? 

I  think  that's  the  best  we  got,  Gordy,  That's 
full  zoom. 

Roger. 

It's  one  of  the  biggest  crater  -  chain  crater 
valleys  that  I've  seen  on  the  Moon.     It  -  we 
saw  some  crossing  Mendeleev,  in  the  first  few  days, 
I  think  we  talked  about,  similar  in  shape  but  not 
nearly  as  big. 

Roger. 

Let  me  move  over  briefly  to  give  you  anotner  view 
of  Humboldt,  which  should  show  up  very  well  now. 
We're  just  about  directly  overhead.     It's  unusual 
-  one  of  the  few  craters  on  the  Moon  that,  have 
a  fairly  flooded  floor,  and  appears  to  have  been 
domed,  and  you  probably  can  see  some  of  the  cracks 
in  that  floor. 

Okay,  it's  in  the  center  of  the  field  now;  nowever , 
something  is  blocking  the  right  side  of  the  view. 

How' s  that? 

That's  real  good  now. 

Around  the  edge  of  the  dome  floor,  you  can  see  3ome 
of  the  dark  luare  which  is  prevalent  elsevnerrr  in 
the  region  but  not  so  abundant  witnin  n-urribolcL^ . 

Roger. 

Ana  ycu  -  you  -  you  can  see  -  if  you  can  see  - 
Check  it  . .  , 


Tape  157/11 


LiMP  Langrenus  ,  you  mean? 

CDR  Tsiolkovsky  is   ...  tiie  terminis. 

LMP  Oh,  okay. 

CMP  Out  the  window. 

09  18  kk         IMF  Oh,  all  right.     Hey,  there's  another  viev,  if  you 

mil  bear  with  us,  of  our  old  friend  Tsiolkovsky, 
Okay? 

CDR  Okay,  I  got  it. 

CO  Roger.     It's  hard  to  mistake  that  one. 

LMP  Yes,  it's  one  of  the  more  pic  -  picturesque  "basins. 

I  guess  partly  -    although  it's  hig,  it's  not  30 
"big  you  can't  look  at  it  all  at  once.     Sj^nthii  and 
Crisi'din  and  Serenitatis  and  Imbrium,  in  particular, 
are  hard  to  look  at  all  at  once.     You're  always 
down  inside  of  them  in  the  60-nautical~mile  orhit. 

CC  Roger.    Just  night  mention  the  diameter  for  those 

who  are  watching  at  home.     That's  about  180  miles 
across ,  I  think. 

LMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     That's  pretty  good.     I  was  going 

to  say  a"bout  200  kilometers,  I  think,  is  what  it 
is,  but  -  - 

CMP  That's  righto 

CMP  And,  Gordy,  of  course,  it's  on  a  part  of  the  Moon 

that  you  -  you  don't  see  from  w"nere  you  are. 

CC  Roger. 

09  18  U6  04    LMP  Not  yet,  anyway. 

L>IP  Okay,  lex, 's  see  if  we  can  move  on  along  cur  orbital 

track  that  we've  been  following  and  see  vihat '  g  new 
that's  come  into  view.     Once  again,  I'll  pick  you 
up  at  Smythii  and  move  you  into  Mare  Marginis,  z'ae 
Margin  Sea.     And,  all  the  mare,  you  may  recall  now, 
we  have  pretxy  good  evidence  as  a  result  of  u'ne 
Apollo  -  - 


Tape  157/12 


CMP  Change  this  . . .  around, 

LMP  -  -  Program  -  - 

CMP  Good. 

LMP  -  -  that  our  theories  of  basalt  flows  that  some 

3  to  it  billion  years  ago,  in  round  numbers,  vere 
erupted  on  the  Moon  and  filled  many  of  the  lov 
areas  that  ejtisted  at  that  time.     Not  an  mrfal  lot 
has  happened  zo  the  Moon  since  -  except  for  the 
impact  craters,  some  of  the  younger  ones,  since 
3  billion  years  ago,  which  is  one  of  tne  reasons 
it  becomes  so  interesting  to  ma,n.     It's  -  the 
Moon's  frozen  in  a  period  of  history  3  billion 
years  and  older ^  which  is  a  period  of  history  that 
we  cannot  recognize  very  readily  on  Earth  because 
of  the  dynamic  processes  of  mountain  building  and 
oceans  and  weathering  that  are  taking  place  even 
at  the  present  time.     Understanding  that  early 
history  of  the  Moon  may  mean  an  understanding  of 
the  early  history  of  the  Earth.     And,  I  chink  we're 
well  on  our  way  to  a  first-order  understanding  of 
that    history  as  a  result  of  the  Program.  Okay, 
going  to  take  you  a  little  bit  farther  along. 
Again,  to  Proclus j  which  is  the  obvious  partially 
rayed  crater  with  a  big  excluded  zone  to  the  south- 
west.    There's  Mare  Fecuhditatis  and  its  contact 
area  with  the  Sea  of  Serenity,  Mare  SerenitatiSi 
and  the  landing  site  now  has  to  be  just  about  on 
the  horizon.     I  think  we  were  a  little  premature 
before . 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Yes,  we  were.     That's  Macrobius  A  and  3  just  oeyond 

Proclus,  there.     Yes.  that's  really  Macrcbiuo  -  - 

UJ[P  Sow,  you're  starting  to  -  just  to  see  the  Mare  of 

Serenitatis  come  over  the  horizon  ~  - 


Cl-iP  Yes . 

j^'^P  -  -  and,  if  you  take  a  line  froit  Proclus  be-; 

the  two  brignt  craters  --  - 

CMP  You're  not  ^oin^i  to  get  Jiore  of  the  j.oor.  ..n: 

have  suace  "^o  here. 


Tape  157/13 


LMP  Yes,  yes.     How's  that? 

CMP  That's  better. 

IMP  Take  that  line ,  and  that  will  take  you  just  ahout 

to  the  landing  area,  right  at  the  edge  of  the  next 
big  mare  that  you  see. 

09  18  ^9  08    CG  Okay,  Jack,  we  can  follow  that  just  as  you  told 

us  there.     Those  three  craters  are  very  obvious. 

Li^  The  site,  Gordo,  is  now  just  to  the  left  -  left  and 

a  little  "below  center  of  your  picture. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  You  can  see  that  ridge  of  mountains  that  sticks  out 

and  the  landing  site  is  -  well,  from  here,  anyway, 
right  in  that  area. 

LMP  Right,  I  guess  my  line  was  a  little  hit  north  of 

where  we  actually  should  have  pointed  you.  There's 
some  dark  area  just  showing  up  around  the  edge  of 
Serenitatis  on  the  horizon.     I  think  that  will  show 
in  your  picture  as  I  remember  some  of  these  from 
Apollo  10  before.     And  it's  jusx  this  side  of  the 
dark  area  that  the  Taurus-Littrow  area  sits  ,  in 
the  mountains,  there. 

CC  We  think  we  have  Maraldi  in  sight  now. 

LiMP  Yes,  and  you  also  -  - 

CDR  Yes.     They  should. 

cm  Yes.     You  should. 

Li-IP  -  -  Vitruvius  should  be  visible  to  you  just  'co  ohe 

south  of  the  landing  area. 

CDR  Vitruvius  is  in  the  monitor,  so  they  should  have  itc 

09  18  51  03    CDR  Jack,  I  think  you  got  a  good  view.     You  can  see 

Censorinus  now.     You  can  probably  get  a  real  good 
shot  at  the  11  site  at  ... 


LMP 


Yes,  you're  rignt. 


Tape  157/1*4 

CDR  There's  old  Censorinus .     It's  avful  big. 

CC  How  big  is  it-,  Geno? 

CDR  Okay,  towards  the  southern  border  of  -  { _augr.T.er ) . 

Okay.     Old  Censorinus  is  right  in  the  Cxiadle  of 
the  screen. 


CC  We  see  it. 

CDR  You've  been  there  before. 

CC  Right. 

00  17,  Houston.     You've  just  passed  20O0  miles. 

LMP  2000  miles.     We've  got  about  a  95~percent  fui:.  Xoon 

in  front  of  us.     Not  toe  far  -  matter  of  fact,  I 


think  the  Apollo  16  landing  area  would  be  just 
about  on  the  horizon,  to  the  south  cf  'franquilli- 
tatis.     And  back  up  to  something  tnat ' s  aear  anu 
near  to  our  hearts.     You  nor ob ably  now  can  pijk 
out  the  mountains,  the  North  and  South  J-Cassif ,  if 
you  really  look  closely.     What  do  you  think,  Gene, 
from  the  monitor?     Can  they  see  that? 

CDR  I  can't  even  see  the  Massifs  with  zhe  naked  eye. 

Ko. 

LMP  See  the  dark  area  there  next  to  ...  -  - 

CDR  I  know  where  -  Yes.     I  know  where  to  look.  Bu'c 

it's  awful  hard  to  pick  them  out.     But  you're 
looking  right  at  it.     You've  got  it  righ';  -  jus-  to 
the  left  cen-cer.     It's  Just  about  perf  eci, ,  tne 
landing  site.     There's  a  little  dark  area  in  "cna'c 
peninsula  of  mountains  -chat  sxic^cs  out  ana  the  size 
is  Just  about  right  in  that  area. 

CC  Roger,  Gene,  as  you  say  -  ~ 


LyiP  _  wish  we  could  show  you  -  - 

-  -  "^e  know  where  to  Iook,  but  i;:'3  :.ard  zc  con- 
firm exactly  the  structuxe  uhere. 

L2<^P  Come  on,  you  guys,  I  car.  even  see  che  lig.-tr  rian-le . 


Tape  157/15 


Extrapolation  is  the  nature  of  our  art. 
I  just  saw  a  flash.  Jack. 

I  wish  we  could  -  Okay.     I  didn't  hear  them=  3ay 
again. 

I  just  saw  a  flash. 

(Laughter)     I  wish  we  could  show  you  some  of  the 
color  we  see  on  the  Moon  this  trip,  but  I  think 
we're  a  little  too  far  away  from  it.     We'll  see  if 
we  can  ...  back  in  ...  from  here. 

We  -  we've  been  looking  for  that  crater  -  - 

Well,  I  can  show  you  a  picture  of  the  corrjnander. 
He's  fairly  colorful. 

That's  about  what  we're  seeing,  Gordy.     I  can't 
give  you  the  bottom  half  because  I  can't  quite 
move  around  the  post  here . 

Geno,  we're  getting  a  great  picture  ...  SO  percent 
of  it. 

You  getting  the  whole  movie?     I'll  ger  it.  Okay, 
I  think  you  can  orient  yourself  with  the  big 
basins  Jack's  been  talking  about.     There's  Crisium 
You  can  see  the  landing  site  up  in  the  -  what  is 
to  me  the  upper  left-hand  corner  of  the  picture, 
but  you  can  pick  it  out  by  now,  I  know.     Get  a 
better  relationship.     You're  looking  at  the 
Langrenus,  down  there,  that  bright  eraser.  You 
ought  to  be  able  to  see  Humboldt.     Maybe  Jack  can 
give  you  the  whole  thing. 

. .  .   this  in. 

Need  to  get  the  whole  thing. 
Yes.     He  said  minimum  zoom. 

Yes.     It's  put  on  the  ...  Okay,  ~hax. '  3  pretty  good 
it's  centered  just  about  right  in  the  center.  It 
ought  to  fit  your  screen  as  we  climb  cut.  Just 
about  tangential  now. 

That's  perfect  right  where  you  got  it. 


Tape  157/16 

09  18  56  22    CDR  Okay,  we'll  hold  tha-  for  a  miiiu^e  =     .'ne  -.er.a..;.:.^_T 

is  coming  across,  01"  course,  at  the  oppo5:--:.e  3  l^e 
of  the  Moon  from  the  big  basin  you're  loc-.ir:^  a ^ . 

CC  Roger. 

MCC  Geno,  what  color  does  that  mare  look  like  to  you? 

CDR  What  color  does  the  nare  look  like  to        fro;.;  aere? 

MCC  Right. 

CDR  Now,  I'm  a  commander;  do  I  have  the  right  to  change 

my  mind?  (Laughter) 

MCC  I  guess  soo 

CDR  Ton,  you  know  I  always  thought  you  could  alrr.ost 

make  it  look  whatex'-er  color  you  wanted  to,  io*s 
so  subtle.     But  the  n.are  -  the  mare.,  to  me,  nas 
go-;  a  grayish  -  a  daj-k  grayish  mixed  witn  a  very 
subtle  tan,  and  that's  what  iz  looks  li^e  to  me, 
from  here. 

MCC  Roger. 

CMP  This  is  the  CMP.     i  agree  with  that. 

CDR  The  tan  is  sort  of  like  a  dusted  tan  in  spots  in 

and  around  and  on  the  mare.     I'd  say  rhat  the 
basic  -  if  I  could  pick  out  a  chunk  of  that  ^ray 

mare  from  here,  I  vrould  pick  oux  a  very  steel  gray  - 

a  dull  steel-gray  color,  but  if  I  Just  took  a  mass 

of  mare  out,  I'd  have  to  mix  it  with  a  subtle  - 
very,  very  subtle  pastel  tan. 

CDR  That's  perfect.     You  can  see  Tsiolkovsky  now  .n  t_ie 

terminator,  down  there.     1  thinK  Jack '3  ..-.st  about 
got  the  Moon  centered  perfect.     You  got.  Is io:.l-cG\-3.^y 
on  one  end;  the  big  basin's  on  the  otner  ena.  how 
high  are  we,  3ordy? 


...   gray.     Okay,  you're  2 


mi^es 


CDR  You  know,  i  tnink  it's  worth  noting. 


_  —  _ 


Wc  '  ft: 


and  you're  seeing  it  there,  that  America 


Tape  157/17 


proud  of  "^he  Apollo  aeritage  it's  leit  here.  I 
know  we  in  the  program  ''oelieve  that  it '  s  really 
and  truly  "been  a  heritage  that  will  prove  itself" 
to  be  one  of  the  ten  -  most  beneficial  things  that 
have  happened  to  mankind  in  quite  some  time,  al- 
though none  of  us  can  really  predict  the  future. 
But  I  think  everyone  that  has  been  part  of  this 
program  has  been  proud  of  its  accompiislmen'os .  I 
know  we  have.     We're  looking  back  at  someplace,  I 
think,  we  will  use  as  a  stepping  stone  to  go  oeyond 
some  day.     And  those  aren't  words.     It's  a  faith 
I  truly  and  dearly  have.     And  1  think  we  will  all 
see  It  in  our  lifetime,  not  just  as  a  nation,  but 
as  a  world.     I  think  the  Apollo  Program  not  only 
has  given  us  the  first  steps  to  that  sort  of  im- 
possible dream,  bu\:  has  given  us  an  opporxunity 
to  make  the  first  steps  in  bringing  a  world 
together  as  one  unit ,  so  that  we  can  make  uhat  step 
together.     It's  been  a  privilege  sharing  zhe  pro- 
gram -  that  part  of  it  that  we've  been  in  with  as 
many  people  as  we  have  and  as  many  people  as  we 
can,  because  I've  often  thought  and  I've  often  said 
before  that  anything  that's  worthwhile  doing  and 
doing  well,  is  certainly  worthwhile  sharing  with 
others.     This  is  history  being  made  in  our  time,, 
while  you  and  I  are  alive,  not  100  years  ago  or 
1000  years  ago.,  and  it's  sort  of  the  real  thing 
happening  right  now.     You're  living  it,  not  just 
us.     We  hope  that  you're  getting  as  much  out  cf 
it,  not  just  feeling  of  pleasure  and  excitement, 
but  that  of  accompli shm^ent ,  as  we  are. 

09  19  00  26    CC  Thank  you,  Gene.     Speaking  for  the  ground,  as  part 

of  the  Apollo  Team,  we  second  those  thoughts,  which 
you  put  very  well. 

CDR  Well,  Gordy,  it's  not  cur  accomplishment.     It's  the 

accomplishments  of  a  nation.     And  I  ^nink  the  next 
set  of  accomplishmient s  are  the  accompli sr_[:.ents  of 
mankind. 

L1'"IP  Gordy,  in  -  in  that  vein,,   I  think  a  couple  v<oras , 

I'd  like  to  more  or  less  reiterate  wnat  I  tried  to 
say  as  we  finished  our  third  ZVA,  and  that  was 
that  the  valley  of  Taur .^s-littrow  ana  the  orbit  of 
the  spaceship  America  saw  tr.e  completion  of  man- 
kind's first  steps  -  first  evolutionary  3tets  from 


Tape  157/18 


the  plane"  Earth  into  the  universe.     I  Lhir.:-.  it's 
important  that  in  doing  so 5  he  est^ablished  u  zr.x- 
dition  of  peace  and  freedom  vitnin  the  soifi:.-  system. 
From  that  larger  home,  noWj  we  move  to  greet  tne 
future. 


CMP  Well,  you  know,  Houston,  and  America  and  the  wcrld, 

this  is  the  comraand  module  pilot  of  the  spaceshir- 
America,  and  I  just  feel  quite  nonored  and  prcud 
to  have  heen  a  part  of  this  Apollo  i^rogram.  The 
Moon,  itself,  is  a  magnificent,  it '  3  a  dynajz  - 
wll,  I  hate  to  use  the  word  dynamic,  decause  it's 
really  not  dynamic ,  hut  it ■ s  a  marvelous  planet . 
It  has  all  the  -wonderful  opportunity  for  explora- 
tion.    Man  must  explore.     We  will  continue  to 
explore,  and  I  hope  that  some  day  we  may  all  nave 
the  opportunity  to  see  mankind  enjoy  cne  benefits 
of  the  exploration  of  the  Apollo  Program. 

CC  Thank  you  very  much  for  the  great  TV  show  and  the  - 

and  your  final  words.     We  enjoyed  every  oit  of  it. 

09  19  03  ih    CDR  And,  Gordy,  with  that,  we're  about  behind  out 

timeline,  as  we  fully  expected  we  might  be  at  this 
point  in  time,  but  believe  me,  it  has  been  a.  oe- 
ginning,  it  is  a  beginning,  I  don't  think  there 
ever  will  be  an  end,  not  as  long  as  man  is  alive 
and  willing. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  158/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION. 


09  19  oh  32    CC  America,  Houston.     We  didn't  have  data,  of  course, 

while  you  had  the  TV  on.    We're  wondering  if  you 
configured  the  SIM  bay  on  our  voice  call  or  had 
you  done  it  earlier?  Over. 

CDR  Ho,  Gordo.    We  were  late.    When  you  called  -  I 

guess  "pan  CAMERA,  ON,"  we  vent  back  and  configured 
a  SIM  bay  and  followed  those  steps  in  the  Flight 
Plan  that  follow  "TV,  ON."    We  had  not  done  that. 

CC  Okay.     No  problem.     We're  just  -  Just  wondered  what 

we  had  there. 


CDR  Okay.     Are  we  up  to  date  on  the  SIM  bay  now,  or 

you  satisfied? 

CC  No,  we're  just  now  getting  some  data,  and  taking 

a  look.     We'll  let  you  know.     Okay.     We'll  take 
PAN  CAMERA,  OFF,  now. 

09  19  05  U2    LMP  Okay.    The  PAIT  CAMERA  power  is  OFF. 

09  19  06  00    LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     S-BAND  AUX  TV  is  going  to  SCIENCE. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Gordy,  it's  going  to  be  hard  to  leave  this  attitude, 

but  we're  going  to  maneuver  now. 


CC  Roger . 

09  19  06  59    CM?  And,  Houston;  America.     Mag  Delta  Delta  is  empty 

now.     The  last  50  percent  was  used  for  taking 
pictures  of  the  TEI. 


CC  Okay,  Ron. 

CDR  Gordo,  going  back  at  that  burn.     It  was  ah  out- 

standing burn.    We  were  looking  about  a  half  a  g 
throughout  the  burn.     She  lit  off  on  tine.  She 
was  a  very  steady  burn.     I  think  she  reversed  roil 
a  -  a  couple  of  times  in  the  dead  band.  The 
computer  and  the  EMS  were  with  each  other  all  the 
way. 


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CMP  Chamber  pressure  on  bank  A  started  out  at  about  3T . 

Bank  B  brought  it  up  to  about  92,  93.     And  when  I 
first  sat  down,  it  was  reading  0,  now  it's  reading  5. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We  got  6  down  here. 

CDR  Okay,  so  in  all  other  respects,  the  burn  was 

nominal,  Gordy.     You  got  the  burn  report  and  the 
residuals,  and  we'll  leave  the  tracking  to  you. 


C  Roger. 


CDR  I  might  add,  I  don't  think  they  built  spacecraft 

any  better  than  they  built  these  two. 

CC  I  don't  see  how  they  could  have. 

CMP  I'll  sure  second  that. 

CDR  I  finally  found  what  I  was  looking  for.     I  got 

the  man  in  the  Moon, 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  For  all  you  nonbelievers ,  I  verify  he  really  is 

there , 

CC  Okay, 

CDR  Gordy,  these  next  series  of  maneuvers  ~  bring  us  - 

bring  our  middle  gimbal  angle  pretty  close  to  the 
apple  [?].     We're  watching  it,  but  appreciate  - 
you  not  hesitating  giving  us  a  call,  toe. 

CC  Okeydoke . 

CDR  Gordo.     In  answer  to  PP's  [?]  question  about  the 

color  of  the  maria  down  there,  when  you  look  at 
Serenitatis,  of  course  we  saw  this  earlier,  when 
we  were  much  closer,  but  when  you  look  at  it  from 
up  here,  it's  -  it's  got  on  the  northeast  side,  a 
very  -  quite  thick,  laterally  across  the  surface, 
dark  -  typically  dark  with  the  tannish  colors  I 
was  talking  about  -  mare  -  which  sort  of  borders 
it.     But  just  north  of  the  -  the  overlati,  between 
Tranquility  and  Serenitatis,  that  contract  ci\r..r.,v;cr, 
sharply  to  a  -  the  grays  are  gone  -  it's  a  vor-y 
sharp  contrast  and  I  think  those  who  have  see:;  it 


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before  will  remem'ber  it,  but  Serenitatis  from 
where  we  stand  is  -  much  more  tan  dominated,  than 
gray  dominated. 

Roger . 

Gordo,  we'll  get  those  numbers  out  of  the  first 
state  vector  out  of  the  computer  here  shortly. 
No  hurry  to  do  it  though. 

Okay. 

Do  you  have  our  altitude  now?    About  kOOO  miles 
maybe? 

I  lost  that  display.     Let  me  check  here. 

No,  I'm  just  trying  to  relate  it  to  when  we  were 
coming  in.    I'd  say  it's  more  like  5. 

3100. 

How  many? 

3100. 


3100.  Okay. 

America,  Houston.     Sorry  to  say  that  the  LCRU  has 
pretty  well  cr-umped,  evidently.     We  were  talking 
over  the  biomed  schedule  and  suggest  that  with 
your  choice,  either  Gene  stay  on  it  or  Jack  go  on 
it,  and  then  we'll  get  back  to  the  Flight  Plan 
rotation  after  the  EVA.  Over. 

Okay,  I'll  stay  on  it  through  the  EVA.  How's 
that? 

Okay,  fine. 

And  we'll  pick  -  we'll  pick  Jack  and  Ron  in  the 
morning . 

All  right . 


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Li'iP  Gordy-j  this  is  Jack.     I  fail  to  see  the  correlation 

between  the  LCRU  criomping  and  me  going  on  biomed. 
Don't  tell  me  you  were  monitoring  it  on  the 
Surgeon's  console,  there. 

CC  Well,  we  don't  see  any  correlation  either,  but 

we're  trying  to  look  for  some. 

LMP  Okay;  let  me  know  when  you  have  an  answer. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  Houston,  America.     When  you  get  a  hack  on  -  on 

our  track,  I'd  like  to  get  a  first-cut  estimate 
at  it . 


CC  Okay;  will  do. 

CC  Geno,  it'll  take  about  an  hour  to  get  a  good  hack, 

to  get  that  much  tracking.  However,  earlier,  the 
Retro  was  betting  everybody  there  wouldn't  be  any 
midcourses . 


CDR  That's  a  -  that's  a  good  way  to  feel.     Okay,  we'll  - 

we'll  talk  to  you  in  an  hour  about  it, 

IMP  Whose  the  wild  man  Retro?     I  don't  want  to  play 

poker  with  him. 

CC  It's  old  ...     He's  a  former  B-IT  pilot.    They're  - 

they're  always  right  on. 

LMP  Wow  you're  starting  to  scare  me. 

CDR  You  can  pass  the  word  to  Captain  Green,  hack  there 

on  the  Ti_  to  clear  the  flight  decks. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  do  it. 

LMP  The  last  time  I  had  anything  to  do  with  a  bomber 

pilot,  Gordy,  he  was  scheduling  my  airplane. 

09  19  21  28    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  We  got  PTC  orientation  in  the  computer? 


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CC  Negative,     But  we  got  it  ready  to  come  to  you, 

if  you  give  ua  ACCEPT. 

09  19  21  55    IMP  Okay.     It's  all  yours. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Gordy,  I'm  afraid  the  weather  reports  on  the  way 

back  of  the  only  planet  that  really  has  much 
weather  visible,  will  be  a  little  repetitive. 

CC  Jack,  we're  heartbroken. 

LMP  For  your  for  -  first  report ,  you  can  Just  play 

the  recording  back;  it's  sunny  and  clear. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  You're  right  on  that  one  -  - 

LMP  The  only  sign  of  any  weather  -  - 

CC  -  -  except  that  you  left  out  the  fact  that  it's  - 

cold  also,  here. 

09  19  23  31    LMP  Gordy,  you  didn't  listen.     I  can't  see  the  Earth. 

I 'm  talking  about  that  other  planet . 

CC  Okay.    Depending  on  what  part  you're  looking  at, 

it's  cold  there,  too.    We  got  you,  though.  You 
got  yo\ir  REFSMMAT,  you  can  go  back  -  - 

LiMP  There  might  be  traces  of  an  atmosphere  -  - 

09  19  23  56    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    We're  in  BLOCK,  and  I  might  give  ray 

CMP  one  more  chance  at  a  P52. 

CC  Okay . 

LMP  Then,  the  LMP  gets  to  start  trying. 

09  19  28  2h    CDR  Gordy,  I  can  look  back  and  -  with  the  glasses  - 

the  binoculars,  and  I  can  see  the  white  mantle  and 
see  all  the  massifs  in  the  landing  area. 

CC  Kow  about  that? 


Tape  158/6 


CC  Back  when  you  had  the  tuoe  on  it ,  I  -  I  really 

think  -  I  knew  we  were  looking  in  the  right  spot , 
but  you  know  it  was  just  blurry  enough  that  -  you 
couldn't  "be  sure  of  exactly  what  you  were  looking 
at . 

09  19  28  55    LMP  Gordy,  let  me  -  since  I  don't  have  anything  else 

to  do  right  now,  apparently,  I'll  see  -  tell  you 
a  couple  of  things  I  see  right  here.     The  annulus  - 
the  dark  annulus  around  Serenitatis,  does  not  look 
complete  in  -  in  the  due-north  area.     Oh,  there 're 
little  partial  pieces  of  dark  material  up  there, 
but  the  main  part  of  the  annulus  seems  to  cross 
into  the  mare  region  that's  north  of  Serenitatis, 
and  I  can't  remember  the  name  of  that  right  now. 
But  it  very  clearly  crosses  right  over  there  as  a 
band  and  then  dies  out  in  that  north  region. 

CC  Roger. 

09  19  29  38    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     There's  the  torquing  angle, 

CC  Okay.     We  copy. 

CMP  Okay.     And  I'll  torque  at  -  it  looks  like  - 

at  238:10.     I  guess  you  really  don't  care,  though, 
do  you? 

LMP  And,  once  again,  albedowise  and  hue  -  color-hue- 

wise,  the  -  that  annulus  is  the  same  as  at  Tran- 
quility, and  essentially  the  same  as  most  of 
Fecunditatis .    The  areas  -  although  Tranquility 
and  Fecunditatis  are  mottled  ...  with  tan  colors, 
the  -  that  mottling  seems  to  be  local  and,  probably 
in  large  part,  related  to  rays  that  cross  those  - 
those  seas. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  At  this  viewing  angle,  the  dark  Tnantle  arounci 

Taurus-Littrow  area  is  just  a  darker  shade  of 
blue-gray  to  me  of  the  annulus,   it's  a  -  mere  just 
a  medium  gray,  I  guess.     Whereas  the  Sulpicius 
Gallus  dark  mantle  is  a  brown-gray,  quite  aistinct 
in  its  color  hue  -  to  me,  at  any  rate. 

CC  Roger. 


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CMP  Houston,  I  can't  see  any  stars  out  there,  so  I'm 

going  to  false  torque  it  instead  of  coarse  align. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Hopefully,  the  reason  I  can  is  because  -  cannot  - 

is  because  the  Earth  is  right  in  the  field  of  view, 
and  it's  still  pretty  bright. 

CC  Roger . 

09  19  32  30    CC  America,  we've  got  a  little  musical  selection  for 

you  here.     Stand  by. 

(Music:     Going  Back  to  Houston,  by  Dean  Martin) 

CDR  That's  very  appropriate.     I  remember  that  being 

played  one  other  time  after  a  TEI  burn. 

CC  Roger.    I  think  it  came  the  other  direction  that 

time,  didn't  it? 

CDR  If  you  stand  by,  we'll  express  to  you  our  senti- 

ments here,  with  a  short  little  tune  I  think  you 
will  enjoy. 

CC  Okay;  standying  by. 

09  19  37  26  (Music:     God  Bless  America,  by  Tennessee  Ernie  Ford) 

CC  Hey,  thank  you  very  much.    Very  enjoyable  and  also 

very  appropriate. 

CDR  It  certainly  has  a  twofold  meaning  for  us. 

09  19  k2  16    CMP  That's  about  par  for  the  CMP,  now. 

CC  Ho  hum,  another  all  balls. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CDR  You  hit  it  right  on  the  money. 

CC  Okay;  we've  got  those. 

CMP  Okay;  and  we'll  torque  at  238:23. 


Tape  158/8 


.CC  Roger, 

09  19  52  59    CDR  Gordo,  I'll  maneuver  In  about  10  minutes. 

CC  Okay;  fine. 

09  19        56    CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  Ron, 

CMP  You  reckon  you'd  have  one  of  the  photo  guys  dovn 

there  to  figure  out  when  we  could  get  a  full  Moon 
with  an  80-millimeter  lens. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  put  them  to  work  on  it. 


CDR 


LMP 


Okay;  appreciate  it. 


09  19  57  19    MP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 


On  the  pan  camera,  you  said  to  expect  to  see 
barter  pole  when  we  ran  it.     I  did  not  see  that 
just  for  your  information.     It  went  harber  pole 
and  then  gray. 


CC  Okay;  thank  you. 

LMP  And,  Gordy,  several  times  I  have  reminded  myself 

to  tell  you  guys  something  and  I  keep  forgetting. 
I  think  it  -  was  yesterday  when  we  did  an  oxygen 
purge  on  fuel  cell  3  after  about  -  oh,  I  think  it 
it  was  a  minute,  possibly  a  minute  and  a  half. 
The  high  0^  flow  warning  was  triggered.  :\'ormally 

that  is  not  triggered  when  we  do  the  purge.  That 
the  one  and  only  time  it's  happened.     This  last 
one,  prior  to  TEI,  there  was      it  was  within  the 
green  band  and  there  was  no  fuel  cell  caution  and 
warning.     Just  thought  you  might  be  interested  in 
that  one. 

CC  Okay,  Jack;  thank  you. 


Tape  158/9 


CMP  Houston,  Ron  here.     I  think  I  got  -  that  -  on  fuel 

cell  3  too  in  one  of  my  fuel  cell  purges,  when  I 
was  up  here  by  myself.  Prohahly  shows  up  on  the 
data  anyhow. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  And  you  can  tell  Farouk  that  -  that  crater  out  on 

Fecunditatis  that  I've  got  a  picture  of,  that  we 
worked  on  "back  at  the  Cape  and  studied  quite  a  "bit , 
has  got  all  the  attributes  of  everything  he  told 
me  about  it , 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Yes ,  and  that ' s  the  one  -  that ' s  the  one  I  was 

describing  on  this  morning. 

CC  Okay . 

09  20  00  56    CMP  Also,  be  advised  the  inner  ring  of  the  -  the  basin 

Arabia  is  quite  visible.     It  looks  like  there  is 
a  -  shallow  depression  outside  the  inner  ring  and 
when  you  get  up  at  this  altitude  right  around 
Saenger,  it  is  indeed,  it  looks  like  a  raised-up 
plateau  crossing  Saenger.    And,  also,  in  the 
vicinity  is  King  -  King  is  almost  going  into  the 
terminator  now,  well,  it's  10  or  15  degrees  from 
the  terminator.     But  you  can  see  a  little  bit  of 
a  raised-up  plateau,  that  takes  in  the  crater  King 
and  goes  about  a  crater  -  a  King  Crater  -  a  diameter 
and  a  half  or  maybe  2  diameters  to  the  south,  and 
a  crater  and  a  half  to  the  north  of  King. 

CC  Roger. 

09  20  03  28    CMP  You  know,  Houston,  it's  also  interesting  to  note, 

that  the  -  the  range  of  color,  from  this  altitude 
and  from  60  miles,  doesn't  seem  to  change  at  all, 
really.     In  other  words,  the  same  impressions  that 
I  had  of  color  in  the  6G-mile  orbit  are  the  s:airie 
impressions  that  I  have  now,  of  the  same  areas. 

CC  Okay,  that's  interesting. 

5000  miles  out,  at  the  moment, 

C^T'  Roger . 


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CDR  Gordy,  you  don't  have  that  number  on  this  millimeter 

camera,  do  you?    We're  going  to  maneuver  and  I'd 
like  to  get  a  last  shot  at  it . 

CC  Okay.    Well,  you're  far  beyond  the  point  where 

you  can  cover  the  whole  Moon  with  an  8o.     We  were 
just  trying  to  come  up  with  an  altitude  for  filling 
up  the  250,  but  you'll  get  the  Moon  and  then  some 
with  the  80,  right  now. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  good.     Then  we'll  take  it  with  the  80. 

CC  Roger. 

09  20  10  39    CC  America,  Houston.    At  21*0:30,  you'll  be  about 

10,000  miles  out,  at  which  altitude  the  Moon  will 
just  about  fill  up  the  250  lens  field  of  view. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     2U0:30,  it  looks  like  for  the  250  lens. 

CC  Right. 

09  20  16  ho    IMP  Gordy,  are  you  ready  for  an  omni  or  you  want  to 

wait  a  little  bit? 

CC  17,  Houston.     Gordon's  off  the  console  for  the 

moment.     We'll  wait  a  couple  of  minutes  on  the  onmi . 

LMP  Okay . 

CC  America,  Houston.     We  need  OMNI  Delta. 

09  20  18  38    IJyiP  Okay.     You've  got  OMNI  Delta. 

09  20  18  U3    CC  Okay. 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAITS CRIPTIOH 


09  20  38  37    LMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

LMP  Looking  at  our  sketches  here  and  trying  to  figure 

out  exactly  what  we're  looking  at  in  the  dark  part 
of  the  Earth.     I  guess  it's  you  and,  if  it's  a  clear 
night,  you  ought  to  have  a  pretty  full  Moon  looking 
back  at  you. 

CC  That's  right  we  do.     In  fact,  it's  nice  and  clear 

all  day  and  I  could  see  it  as  I  came  in  this 
afternoon.     Your  subspacecraft  point  right  now  is 
over  the  Yucatan  Peninsula. 

LMP  Yes,  it's  just  about  the  chart  I'm  looking  at, 

Gordo.     Looks' like  about  right  smack  in  the  center. 

CDR  Gordy,  do  you  have  a  general  trend  on  the  pre- 

diction in  the  recovery  area? 

09  20  ho  23    CC  I  haven't  -  haven't  heard  one,  but  I'll  see  if 

we  can  get  one . 

09  20  hi  58    CC  America,  Houston.     The  Sun  is  Just  about  to  enter 

the  lens  of  the  mapping  camera,  and  we'd  like  you 
to  retract  it  and  then  close  the  cover.    We're  not 
copying  SIM  bay  data  now,  so  we'd  like  you  to  get 
a  MARK  on  both  the  start  of  retraction  -  give  a 
MARK  on  the  start  of  retraction  and  one  when 
barber  pole  goes  to  gray . 

CMP  Okay.     We're  going  to  retract  the  mapping  camera. 

5,  h,  3,  2,  1  - 

09  20  i+2  32    CMP  MARK  it.     There  -  - 

CC  Okay. 

09  20  42  36    CMP  -  -  barber  pole.     And  that  was  at  20  -  22:30. 


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CC  Okay,  and  we  want  to  keep  it  running  to  run  the 

film  out  of  it. 

09  20  k2  k8    CMP  Okay,  understand. 

09  20  ^5  53    CC  America,  Houston.     How's  the  mapping  camera  talk- 

back  look? 

CMP  Barber  pole. 

CC  Okay.    We  thought  it  should  have  been  gray  by  now. 

CMP  (Chuckle)     Okay,  let's  see.     I've  got  -  we're 

coming  up  on  h  minutes . 

CC  That's  what  I've  got. 

09  20  h6  51    CMP  Hey,  there  we  go.  Gray. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CMP  Took  a  while  -  took  a  while,  but  it  made  it. 

CMP  Okay,  the  COVER  has  gone  CLOSE;  barber  pole,  gray. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you. 

CC  America,  Houston.    Got  a  couple  of  answers  for 


you  here.    On  this  -  the  0^  caution/warning  in- 
dication on  the  purge,  at  the  time  you  were 
pulling  3T.8  amps  out  of  fuel  cell  3  because  the 
SIM  bay  was  fired  up  and  that'll  result  in  about 
a  flow  of  1.37  pounds  per  hour  which  -  and  the 
trip  limit  is  1.2,  so  that's  why  you  got  the  - 
the  flag  on  it  and  you  can  expect  to  get  the 
caution/warning  anytime  you've  got  33  amps  or 
more  being  pulled  out  of  the  fuel  cells  at  the 
time  you  purge.  Over. 

CMP  Ah  ha,  okay.     That  sounds  good,  then. 

CC  .Also,  we've  tracked  you  a  while  now  and  midcourse  5 

looks  like  a  whopping  0.3  of  a  foot  per  second 
at  the  present  time. 


Tape  159/3 


CDR  Beautiful,  Gordy,  beautiful. 

CMP  That  is  outstanding. 


09  20  51  32    CC  America,  Houston.     In  answer  to  your  question 

about  the  weather  at  splashdown ,  the  area  right 
now  is  2000  scattered  and  10,  winds  variable  at  10. 
And  forecasting  the  same  -  2000  scattered  and  10, 
with  3-foot  waves ,  variable  at  10  knots  on  the 
wind,  and  some  rain  showers,  but  less  than 
10-percent  coverage  on  the  rain  showers  in  the 
area.  Over. 

09  20  52  05     CDR  Oh,  you're  full  of  good  news  tonight.     Thank  you. 

09  21  08  58    CMP  Houston,  America  is  about  to  maneuver. 

CC  Okay . 

09  21  11  1+2    LMP  Houston,  17- 

CC  Go  ahead  and  give  us  OMITI  Charlie,  please,  while 

you're  talking. 

CC  Also,  Jack,  we'd  like  you  -  - 

LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  this  is  Jack  -  since  I  can't  give 

you  -  - 

CC   we'd  like  H^  TAUK  1  FAIJ,  OFF. 

09  21  12  18    LMP  Go  ahead.  TAHK  1  FAN  is  OFF. 

CC  Thank  you  and  go  ahead. 


LMP  Okay,  we  got  all  three  of  them  off  now.  Right, 

Gordy? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  Hello,  Gordy. 

CC  Hello;  go  ahead.  Jack. 


Tape 


LMP  Okay,  since  I  can't  help  you  out  on  the  weather 

right  now  in  the  Pacific,  can  you  give  me  a  run- 
down of  what  things  look  like  out  there? 

CDR  I  already  got  it. 

LMP  Oh,  I'm  sorry.     I  wasn't  on  the  loop.  Apparently 

you  already  briefed  somebody  on  that. 

CC  I  covered  the  recovery  area.    Not  the  rest  of  the 

Pacific.     Did  you  want  an  overall  briefing? 

LMP  Ho.     I  was  just  curious  what  the  recovery  area 

looked  like,  and  I'm  sure  that  my  compatriots 
will  clue  me  in  on  it,  if  I'm  nice  to  them. 

CC  Yes.     I'll  save  them  the  trouble.     It's  going  to 

be  2000  scattered,  10  miles,  3-foot  waves,  variable 
at  10  knots,  and  less  than  10  percent  chance  of 
rain  showers.    And  that's  just  about  what  the 
weather  is  now,  and  also  forecast. 

LMP  Okay.    Thank  you  very  much. 

CC  Jack,  you've  got  a  lot  of  SIM  bay  data  stored  up 

there  that  we'd  like  to  get  dumped.     Can  you  give 
us  the  HIGH  GAIN;  PITCH,  30;  YAW,  320? 

LMP  Okay,  PITCH,  30;  YAW,  320. 

09  21  15  19    LMP  Okay,  it's  the  old  HIGH  GAIN  for  you. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

LMP  Gordy,  what  altitude  are  we  at  now? 

CC  Stand  by,  I'll  check.     85OO  miles. 

LMP  You  clipped.    Say  again. 

CC  8500  miles. 

LMP  Okay. 


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09  21  23  06    CDR  Gordy,  as  we're  maneuvering,  I  guess  we  got  one 

of  the  most  spectacular  views  of  the  Moon  I've 
ever  seen,  from  a  position  like  this.     It's  like  - 
just  short  of  being  100  percent  full..   We  can  still 
see  from  Tsiolkovsky  all  the  way  across  the  Moon 
and  it's  just  absolutely  magnificent  and  I'm  afraid 
we're  talking  here  -  that  the  pictures  just  won't 
capture  the  real  three-dimensional  picture  we're 
looking  at.     But,  uniquely  with  the  binocs  I  can 
still  see  the  light  mantle  in  the  landing  area. 

09  21  23  1+8    CC  Roger,  Gene. 

09  21  25  07    LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  I  don't  know  whether  your  camera 

people  have  anything  to  do  this  evening,  but  I've 
got  a  little  problem  for  them  if  they'd  like  to 
work  on  it. 

CC  Okay,  go  ahead. 

LMP  Well,  it  seems  to  me  we're  not  only  moving  away 

from  the  Moon,  but  we're  moving  across  the  face, 
and  I  took  a  picture  about  5  minutes  ago  of  the. 
Moon,  and  it  seems  to  me  we  could  take  another 
one  at  some  X-number  of  minutes  and  have  pretty 
good  stereo  if  we  matched  the  printing  of  the 
two  pictures  in  terms  of  scale.     And,  I'm  wonder- 
ing what's  a  good  time  elapse  here  for  a  good 
stereo  of  the  whole  globe? 

CC  Okay,  we  understand  the  problem,  but  I'm  not  - 

Well,  we'll  try. 

LMP  Well,  I  guess,  if  you  could  figure  out  what  it 

would  -  how  far  we  have  to  move  across  the  face 
of  the  Moon  and  how  long  that  would  take  to  get 
about  a  -  oh,  shoot,  a  30  to  1  base-heighth 
ratio 'd  probably  be  enough  -  20  to  1  would  prob- 
ably be  better,  obviously,  but  30  to  1,  you  could 
still  see  the  stereo.     And  you  ought  to  be  able 
to  figure  that  problem  out.     How  fast  do  -  do  the 
guys  know  how  fast  we're  moving  across  the  face 
of  the  Moon? 


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09  21  26  1+1-   CC  No,  I'll  put  that  one  to  FDO.     Just  looking  at 

the  big  chart  up  here,  I'm  sure  that  zhe  rate  is 
slowing  down  rapidly,  and  -  because  you're  -  the 
farther  you  get  away,  of  course,  the  straighter 
away  from  it  you're  going.     Stand  by,  I'll  see 
what  we  can  do. 

09  21  kk  55    CC  Jack,  this  is  Houston  with  kind  of  a  crude  answer 

to  your  question. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  it  turns  out  right  now  that  you're  not 

moving  across  the  lunar  surface  very  fast,  and 
you  -  it's  getting  less  and  less  -  right  now,  I 
guess  it's  about  a  mile  per  minute.     It  would 
take  a  lot  of  minutes  to  get  much  of  a  stereo  base 
since  you're  10,000  miles  out.     But,  remembering 
back  to  Ron's  final  picture  there  before  you  went 
to  the  UV  attitude,  after  he  asked  the  question 
about  how  high  he  had  to  be  to  fill  up  the 
80-millimeter  lens,  I  think  he  took  one  at  that 
time.     We're  thinking  of  combining  a  picture  now 
with  that  picture,  and  then  enlarging  the  one  to 
get  it  to  the  equivalent  diameter.    And,  some 
rough  calculations  of  your  longitude  at  that  time 
and  then  -  now,  show  that  you've  changed  about 
21  degrees  across  the  surface  of  the  Moon  between 
that  picture  and  the  present  time,  which  comes 
out,  if  you  take  the  average  altitude  between 
that  time  and  now  to  -  to  about  a  25-to-l  stereo 
base,  as  best  I  can  figure. 

LMP  Sounds  good  enough,  Gordy.     We've  got  It  -  I  got 

that  one  at  5  minutes .  I  mean  at  2k0  on  the  hour , 
so  those  are  probably  pretty  close. 


CC 


I  would  guess,  you  know,  that  the  angle  of  locking 
at  it  -  other  factors  have  changed  sc  nuch  tha^  it 
would  be  pretty  hard  to  pull  them  together  once 
you  -  even  though  you  get  the  images  reduced  to 
the  same  size,  but  it  might  be  interesting  to  try. 


09  21  k-J  03    LMP  I  agree. 


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09  21  i+T  kG    CC  America,  Houston.     There's  some  items  coming  here 

nov  in  the  Flight  Plan.     A  couple  of  them,  MAPPING 
CAMERA,  RETRACT,  and  COVER,  CLOSED,  you've  already 
done.     However,  right  now  we  still  see  the  mapping 
camera  film  rolling,  so  we  want  to  leave  it  running 
until  we  give  you  a  cue  to  turn  it  off  -  get  all 
the  film  run  out.     And,  the  up-link  for  a  state 
vector  that's  shown  there  will  not  be  necessary. 
Over. 

LMP  We  were  looking  forward  to  get  to  do  something. 

Now,  we'll  wait  a  little  bit  longer. 

CDR  Couldn't  you  just  flash  a  couple  of  lights  on 

the  DSKY  just  to  keep  us  occupied? 

CC  Send  a  crew  alert  or  something? 

09  21  it8  ho    LMP  Yes ,  throw  it  in  once  in  a  while  just  to  keep  us 

on  our  toes,  Gordy. 

09  21  i;9  33    CC  The  Surgeon  had  a  suggestion.     He  said  if  you 

really  get  bored,  you  could  all  put  on  your  biomed 
harnesses . 

CDR  Only  listen  to  about  half  of  what  goes  down,  will 

you? 

09  21  1+9  59    CC  Okay. 

09  22  02  22    CDR  Gordy,  you  got  any  words  on  the  SIM  bay  prior  to 

going  into  PTC? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CC  Nothing  additional,  Geno,  go  ahead  as  per  Flight 

Plan  with  the  one  exception.     We'll  give  you  a  cue 
when  to  stop  the  mapping  camera  as  soon  as  the 
film  runs  out. 

CDR  Okay,  we'll  hold  up  on  the  mapping  camera  and  its 

cover,  and  we'll  get  the  IR,  OFF. 

CC  Roger. 


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LMP  Okay.     Okay,  Gor  -  Gordy,  the  IR  is  coming  OFF 

now. 

09  22  03  37    LMP  MARK. 

CC  Roger. 
09  22  03  57    LMP  And  the  COVER  is  CLOSED. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Hey,  Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     Is  there  any  updated 

briefing  on  the  status  of  the  lunar  surface  equip- 
ment and  SIM  bay  findings  over  and  above  what  we 
got?    I  guess  -  I  can't  remember  when  it  was  - 
yesterday  or  some  time. 

CC  I  can't  think  of  anything  really  outstanding. 

We're  just  right  now  coming  up  on  another  charge 
detonation;  however,  I  think  I  mentioned  that  the 
LCRU  is  "kaput."     So,  we  won't  be  able  to  watch 
It.     We're  looking  at  the  seismometer  traces  here. 
Other  -  I'll  come  back  with  any  other  words  to 
update  you  on  yesterday's  report  in  a  little  bit 
here . 

LMP  Okay,  I  -  just  updated  stuff.     If  something  new 

comes  in  or  -  is  all  we're  interested  in. 

09  22  05  13    CC  Okay. 

09  22  06  kl    CMP  Okay,  Gordy,  we're  going  to  maneuver  now  to  P50 

attitude . 

09  22  06  1+6    CC  All  righty. 


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09  22  12  11    CC  America,  Houston.     You've  Just  run  out  of  mapping 

camera  film.     You  can  go  ahead  and  clean  up  the 
items  at  2it0:3O  to  power  dovn  the  mapping  camera. 

LMP  Roger. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  we're  going  RETRACT. 

CC  Okay,  I  think  it  shoiild  already  be  in,  with  the 

cover  down. 

LMP  Yes,  you're  right. 

CC  And  just  now,  the  charge  exploded  at  Taurus- 

Littrow,  and  we're  seeing  the  results  on  the 
tracers  here. 

LMP  Which  one  was  it,  Gordy?     Do  you  know? 

CC  Okay,  that  one  was  number  8.     A  q^uarter-pound 

charge,  and  I  guess  it  was  fourth  -  I'm  not  sure 
which  location  that  was.     It  was  0.^4  of  a  mile 
from  the  LCRU,  if  that  helps  you  decide. 

LMP  Okay . 

09  22  16  37    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  H^  TANK  1  FAN,  ON, 

please.     That'll  get  it  up  for  -  prior  to  the 
sleep  period. 

09  22  16  5k    LMP  Okay,  TANK  1  is  ON. 

CC  Thank  you. 

09  22  20  kQ    CDR  And,  Gordo,  the  canister  is  changed. 

CC  Roger. 

0!-lP  They  -  Houston  -  or  Gordo,  Ron  here. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


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CDR 


Okay,  Gordo.    As  a  result  of  number  5  [?]  today 
and  a  little  bit  of  a  feeling  of  a  little  bit  of 
gas  right  now,  with  -  well,  the  possibility  of  a  - 
of  the  desire,  I  feel  like  it  may  be  worthwhile 
for  me  to  take  a  Lomotil,  and  I'd  like  to  get  your 
conciarrence  on  that. 

Okay,  stand  by. 

Houston,  America.    How  are  our  rates  looking? 

Stand  by.     They're  not  down  there  yet.     We  want 
to  wait  a  little  bit.  Gene. 

Okeydoke . 

America,  Houston  with  a  response  to  Ron's 
question.  Over. 

Okay,  go  ahead. 

Okay,  for  gas,  we're  recommending  on  -  only  - 
we're  definitely  not  recommending  the  Lomotil; 
we're  recommending  the  gas  pills;  however   


-  -  we  also  don't  recommend  the  Lomotils  for  a 
situation  that  really  hasn't  developed  yet.  If 
you  want  to  discuss  it  in  more  detail,  we  can  set 
up  a  private  loop  or  -  or  go  ahead  as  you  wish. 
Over . 

Stand  by  a  minute. 
Hey,  Gordo. 
Go  ahead. 

Yes,  we'd  like  to  talk  to  you  further,  please. 
Okay.  Fine. 

America,  Houston.     It  looks  good  right  now  to 
start  the  roll  for  PTC. 

Okay. 


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GDR  She's  GO,  Gordo. 

09  23  20  39    GC  Okay. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Sleep  configuration  on  the 

hydrogen  fans,  and  you  can  do  it  nov,  is        TANK  1 

FM,  OFF,  and  3,  AUTO.     That's  1,  OFF;  3,  AUTO. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy,  we  got  1,  OFF;  3,  AUTO. 

09  23  21  50    CC  Thank  you. 

09  23  2k  56    GC  America,  Houston.  Over. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  On  that  PTC  startup,  there  was  only  one  Jet  that 

fired,  and  so  we  only  got  half  the  rate  we  need, 
and  so  the  -  I  guess  the  only  way  to  recover  is 
to  stop  the  roll  and  start  damping  the  rates  again 
and  wait  for  our  call  to  start  it  again  -  over 
again.  Over. 

CMP  Roger  again. 

CC  And  we'd  like  the  procedure  on  g8-2  using  B-2  and 

D-2  for  the  spin  up.     Two  jf,ts. 

CMP  Yes.     That's  interesting.     B-2  and  D-2  are  both  on. 

CC  Okay,  we  understand  that,  Ron.     Let  us  look  into 

that  a  little  further  here,  then. 

CMP  I'm  sorry.     It's  D-1  and  -  Dog  1  and  Bravo  2  are  on. 

CC  Okay,  that's  what  did  it. 

CDR  Delta  1  and  Bravo  2  is  what  it  calls  for,  and 

that ' s  what  was  on . 

CMP  Yes,  those  are  the  wrong  ones  though;  that's  the 

problem. 


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CC 


Well,  we're  reading  it  both  in  the  checklist  and 
Flight  Plani  Bravo  2  and  Delta  2  are  the  ones  to 
use  for  spinup. 

Yes,  you're  right.  Okay.  We  got  -  we're  reading 
the  wrong  ones,  I  guess. 

Okay,  Gordy,  is  this  a  good  attitude  or  should  we 
go  back  to  the  UV/PTC  sleep  attitude? 


CC  Stand  by.     G&C  is  on  the  other  loop  here.  Just 

a  second. 

CC  America,  Houston.     You  need  to  go  back  to  the 

pitch  and  yaw  in  the  Flight  Plan,  and  the  present 
roll  will  be  okay. 


09  23  28  hk    CMP  Okay. 


Also  for  this  damping,  we  want  you  to  go  to  the 
Jets  called  out  at  2lt0:50  in  the  Flight  Plan. 
That's  a  -  Well,  you  got  it  there. 


CI^  Yes,  we  got  it  here. 

CMP  Okay,  give  us  a  call  when  we  get  all  damped  out 

there.     We  got  Alfa  and  Bravo  for  damping  Jets. 


09  23  30  36    CC  Roger. 

CMP  Eey,  wait  a  minute;  we  got  the  wrong  ones  here. 

Forget  it.    We'll  get  back  to  that.    What's  in 
the  Flight  Plan  will  do  it? 

CC  Roger.     I  would  think  -  You're  firing  into  the 

SIM  bay  -  bay  with  the  present  configuration. 

CMP  You're  right. 

09  23  3i+  11    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Gordo,  how's  it  looking  for  a  midcourse  5?  Any 

further  word? 


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CC  Our  last  information  was  still  a  half  a  foot.  Or 

essentially  no  midcourse .     I'm  not  sure  if  we've 
been  affected  by  the  PTC  here  or  not,  the  single- 
Jet  spinup,  but  we'll  let  you  know. 

CDR  Okay,  fine.     Don't  worry  about  it.     You  won't  have 

a  final  word  on  it  until  tomorrow  anyway. 


CC 


That's  affirmative.     I  doubt  if  we'll  have  any  - 
enough  tracking  before  bedtime  here  to  give  you 
any  update  tonight. 


CDR  Okay,  no  problem. 

09  23  35  15    CC  And  we'd  like  you  to  configure  the  HIGH  GAIN  for 

us.     We'd  like  PITCH,  minus  UO;  and  YAW,  90,  on 
the  dials  and  then  go  directly  from  AUTO  to  REACQ. 

CDR  Okay,  say  again  the  numbers,  Gordo.     I'm  sorry;  I 
missed  them. 

CC  Okay,  PITCH  is  minus  hO  and  YAW,  plus  90. 

CDR  Okay,  minus  1+0  and  a  plus  9-90. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  And  REACQ. 

CC  That's  affirm. 

CMP  We  have  REACQ  and  NARROW. 

09  23  36  06     CDR  REACQ  and  NARROW  now. 


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09  23  Hi  01    CC  America,  Houston.  Over, 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay,  this  SIM  bay  jett  configuration  Just  isn't 

hacking  the  job  of  damping  the  rates.  We're 
going  to  go  to  adjacent  quads  to  try  to  get  it 
dampened  quicker.    We'd  like  you  to  enable  Charlie 
and  Delta.     To  do  that.  Just  disable  all  Alfa  and 
Bravo  Jets,  enable  all  Delta  Jets  and  aJ-so 
Charlie  3.  Over. 

09  23  kl  1+2    CDR  Okay,  Gordo.     Let  me  disable  all  Alfa  and  Bravo 

first. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     And  then  enable  all  Delta  plus 

Charlie  3 . 

09  23  h2  17    CDR  Okay.     You  don't  want  Charlie  k  enabled?    Or  you 

do?  ...   

CC  That's  affirmative.     But  it  is  already. 

09  23  h2  25     CDR  Okay,  you're  -  Yes,  here's  what  I  got .     I  got  - 

I  got  Delta  1  and  Delta  2  on  B/D  ROLL.     I've  got 
Charlie  3  and  Charlie  h  for  PITCH,  and  I've  got 
Delta  3  and  Delta  ^4  for  YAW.     Okay.     That  sounds 
exactly  rigjit. 

09  23  h9  1+7    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  America  here. 

CC  Okay.     The  rates  look  good  now.     I'd  like  you  to 

use  Bravo  2  and  Delta  2,  and  go  ahead  and  spin  up. 

CDR  Oka/s  Gordy.     We'll  do  it  -  get  it  this  time. 

CC  Okay, 

09  23  51  31    CC  America,  Houston   


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09  23  51  32    CDR  Okay,  Gordy;  they're  all  off.     They're  all  off 

except  Bravo  2  and  Delta  2. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Yes,  we  got  the  right  amount  that  time.  Let's 

hope  it  stays  good. 

CC  Okay.    For  Ron  only,  no  Seconal  tonight.  Over. 

CMP  Okay. 

10  00  02  15    CC  America,  Houston.     G&C,  with  his  years  of  expe- 

rience, thinks  that  this  PTC  is  going  to  hold. 
It's  looking  good  so  far,  and  so  I  think  it's  safe 
to  go  ahead  and  configure  to  go  to  sleep  there, 
if  you  wish. 

CDR  Okay,  we're  in  the  process  now,  Gordy.    Thank  you. 

10  00  27  25    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Hello,  America;  Houston.  Over. 

CDR  Bob? 

CC  That  is  affirm. 

10  00  27  h2    CDR  Okay.    We're  Ji:ist  about  ready  to  turn  out  the 

lights.    By  my  watch,  about  7:20  in  the  morning 
is  wakeup  time,  and  I  got  the  other  guys  on  their 
couches  and  I'm  going  to  stand  the  duty  tonight 
and  I'm  going  to  leave  my  lightweight  headset  in 
W  ear.    But  if  the  hlgji  gain  bothers  me  during 
this  PTC,  I  want  to  go  ahead  and  take  it  out.  And 
I've  got  the  tone  booster  connected  up  and  it  does 
work.     So,  in  any  event,  give  me  a  crew  alert  in 
the  morning,  will  you? 

CC  Okay.    You  want  a  -  eire  you  telling  me  you  want 

to  get  woke  up  after  8  hours  or  at  7:20  as  planned? 

CDR  Mo,  as  -  as  by  the  Flight  Plan.    We've  got  to  get 

up  as  by  the  Flight  Plan. 


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CC  Okay.     Taltc  to  you  in  the  morning.    And  we'd  like 

OPTICS  POWER,  OFF, 

CDR  -  -  ...     Okay,  I  Just  didn't  want  you  to  . . .  yes, 

sir;  we'll  get  the  OPTICS  POWEE,  OFF,  and  we'll 
get  the  VOICE,  OFF,  too. 

CC  Okay;  that  suits  -  makes  everyloody  happy  

10  00  28  h3    CDR  Okay,  we'll  see  you  in  the  morning  then. 

10  00  28  kk    CC  See  you  in  the  morning. 

10  00  28  Ut    so  Okay,  hahe. 


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10  07  50  01  (Music:     Home  For  The  Holidays  by  Jerry  Vale) 

10  07  56  5U    CDR  Good  morning,  Robert.     Good  morning. 

CC  Good  morning,  Geno. 

CDR  Hey,  your  choice  of  music  is  getting  bet-er  down 

there.     We're  going  to  have  to  keep  you  there 
eveiy  morning. 

CC  Well,  if  I'm  here  waking  you  up  on  Wednesday 

morning,  fellow,  you're  in  trouble. 

CDR  Yes,  we're  not  going  to  count  Wednesday.     We'll  - 

we'll  work  out  something  else  for  Wednesday.     I  - 
I  know  we're  not  much,  but  we're  all  you  got  for 
Christmas . 

CC  Okay,  America,  this  is  Houston.     One  little  update 

for  you  on  today's  plans.     At  the  present  time, 
midco\xrse  5  is  looking  like  a  quarter  of  a  foot 
per  second,  which  means  at  the  present  time,  we're 
not  planning  on  burning  it.     But  we  reserve  the 
right  to  change  our  minds  sometime  in  the  next 
hour  and  a  half,  if  necessary.     But  that'll  give 
you  some  thought  to  what  to  do  today. 


CDR 


Very  good.  Bob.  Outstanding.  We'll  go  along  with 
whatever  you  want. 


CC  You  guys  are  getting  easy. 

13  07  55  ho     CDR  Oh,  we  get  more  likable  as  days  go  on. 

CMP  Good  morning,  Houston.     This  is  the  command  module 

-oilot  of  the  spaceship  America.     And  we're  up  and 
ready  to  particpita  -  participate  in  anoT,her  day's 
activities . 

ZC  I  got  you  there,  Ron.     And  we're  ready  to  part  - 

participate  with  you,  also. 


Tape  166/2 


CMP  (Laiighter)     Okay,  Rotert. 

CDR  Got  cold  up  here  last  night. 

CC  Well,  I'll  tell  you,  it  was  27  at  Ellington  at 

6  o'clock  down  here,  too. 

10  07  59  09    CDR  Well,  it's  not  quite  that  cold  in  here,  but  there 

sure  is  a  difference. 

CDR  And,  Boh,  how's  America  looking  to  you  down  there? 

CC             We're  looking  pretty  good.     We  found  nothing  over- 
night to  give  us  any  concern,  and  we  see  nothing 
at  the  present  time.     Looks  great.     We're  showing 
you  at  66  degrees  in  the  cabin. 

CDR  Yes,  sir.     We're  going  to  get  it  warmed  up  here, 

though,  slot  -  shortly.  Okay;  America  still  looks 
good  to  us . 

CC  And,  America,  you're  now  in  the  Earth  control.  We 

passed  about  2  minutes  ago. 

CDR  What  was  our  -  what  was  our  velocity  going  through 

the  changeover  in  influence? 

CC  Stand  by. 

CC  And,  Geno,  you  had  385I  feet  per  second  going 

through  the  crossover. 

10  06  02  07    CDR  Okay.     We're  looking  back  at  a  -  a  very  full  and 

very  bright,  very  beautiful  Moon,  right  now.  .^nd 
the  Man  in  the  Moon  is  smiling  as  he's  waving  us 
on  home. 

10  C8  02  29    CC  Copy  that.    We  had  a  good  picture  of  him  last 

night  here  down  in  Houston,  also. 

10  08  12  26    CC  America,  Houston.  Over. 

LblP  Go  ahead. 


Tape  166/3 


Okay.     We  lost  you  there  with  an  antenna  change 
that  we  didn't  catch.     So  we're  back  with  you 
again. 

Yes,  we  noticed  that. 

Hey,  Bob.     What  time  does  the  old  back  room  get 
up  this  morning? 

Which  back  room? 

The  geology  back  room,  of  course. 

Well,  beats  me.     I  don't  know  if  there's  anyone 
down  there  or  not.     Let  me  see  if  I  can  find  out. 

No,  that's  all  right.  Bob.     I  just  want  you  to 
pass  on  a  thought.     I  had  a  little  trouble  getting 
to  sleep  last  night.     And  they've  probably  already 
thought  of  it.     But  it  has  to  do  with  Van  Serg. 

Go  ahead.     I'll  copy  it  down. 

No,  Just  ask  them  if  they've  thought  about  the 
possibility  that  the  -  those  Van  Serg  breccias 
might  be  -  might  be  the  old  indurated  regolith 
over  the  sub floor. 

Okay;  I  got  that. 

That's  an  alternative  that  in  the  -  the  heat  of 
battle  did  not  occur  to  me  at  the  time.     It  should 
have,  and  it  may  have  occurred  to  some  of  them. 

Okay.    Thats  as  opposed  to  being  a  window  through  - 
to  the  -  below  the  subfloor,  which  is  whar  you 
suggested  the  other  night. 

Yes,  sir.     I  think  I  -  I  think  I  like  the  regolith 
better.     It  -  I  think  it  makes  sense  from  a  lot 
of  points  of  view:      the  size  of  the  crater,  the 
fact  that  we  should  have  expected  to  see  sotriethinf.'; 
but  hadn't  up  to  that  time. 


Okay.     I  got  that. 


Tape  'j.G^/'h 


LMP  And  the  "breccias  were,  thinking  back  on  it, 

could  very  easily  have  heen  soil  breccias  and 
just  getting  coarser  as  you  got  closer  to  the  base 
of  the  sub  -  to  the  top  of  the  subfloor,  which  is 
what  we  were  looking  at  down  in  the  bottom  of  the 
crater. 


10  08  15  07    CC  Okay.     Got  that. 

10  06  20  01    LMP  Bob,  is  your  EECOM  friend  going  to  let  us  practice 

the  waste  water  dump  again  today? 


CC  I  kind  of  expect  so.     Stand  by  and  let  me  find  out 

for  sure.     Roger,  Jack.     There's  one  coming  up 
at  252:50,  about  2  hours  from  now. 

LMP  Okay.     We'll  start  reviewing  that  one.     We'll  be 

ready  for  him  this  time. 


CC  We  won't  let  you  sneak  behind  the  Moon  on  this  one. 

10  08  23  U8    LMP  Very  good. 

10  08  35  LMP  Houston,  1?. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Go  ahead. 

LMP  Who's  the  EECOM  this  morning? 

CC  Charlie  Dumis. 

LI^P  Hey,  ask  Charlie  if  it's  all  right  if  I  turn  on 
the  commander's  heaters? 


CC  We  don't  -  Would  you  clarify  that  req_uest? 

CC  I'll  tell  you  -  you  can  -  you  can  use  reel  2. 

About  the  only  thing  I  can  think  of,  Jack,  would 
be  reel  2. 

CC  Jack,  you  might  use  reel  2  if  you  want  to.  It's 

about  the  only  thing  we  can  think  of. 

LMP  Yes,  you  get  the  idea. 

LMP  Anyway,  it's  cold. 


Tape  166/3 


CG  Soger. 

UAP  It's  net  really  that  bad.  Bob,  but  we're  hearing 

a  lot  about  it. 

CC  Okay.     Well,  we'll  work  it  out  here,  if  we  can  i:ry. 

LIvip  Well,  you  might  discuss  it  with  3PM. 

CC  We  are,  believe  me. 

10  08  38  03     CDR  I'd  like  not  to  -  like  not  to  waste  reel  2.     It. ' s 

got  some  other  good  uses. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  I6T/I 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10  09  03  21  CC 

LKP 

CC 


America,  17 
is  Houston. 


Let's  say  it  again  -  America,  this 


LMP 

CC 

CMP 

CDR 

CC 

CDR 

CC 


Are  you  sure?     Would  you  like  to  try  again? 

Well,  that's  all  right.  Jack.     We'll  live  with  it 
for  a  while.     We're  looking  at  ~  no  need  to 
acknowledge  this  -  we're  looking  at  your  temperature 
problem.     And  there's  a  couple  of  obvious  things 
I'm  sure  you've  undertaken,  but  if  you  haven't  - 
all  the  window  shades  off.     Get  some  sunlight  in 
there.    And  might  crank  on  all  the  lights  to  get 
some  more  heat  load  in  there.    Also  the  -  of  course, 
the  cabin  fan  and  the  temperature  -  CABIN  TEMP 
control  thumbwheel  -  it's  your  option  on  that.  The 
other  things ,  like  mixing  valve  adjustment  and 
powering  up  other  items,  we're  looking  at  very 
seriously,  but  we  would  like  to  not  do  those 
items  until  after  the  EVA  this  morning.     We'd  like 
to  remain  the  status  quo  on  the  ECS  system  with 
the  exception  of  -  you  do  have  the  cabin  fans  on 
your  option  there.     But  we  would  like  to  re  -  retain 
the  rest  of  it  status  quo  until  after  the  EVA. 

Well,  thank  you  for  all  your  research  in  there, 
Bob.     I'll  let  the  commander  make  the  decisions. 
It  -  it's  his  thermostat. 

Roger . 

The  CMP  feels  pretty  good  so  - 

I'll  see  if  they  can  get  me  mad  this  morning. 
That'll  warm  -hings  up.     Temperature's  on  xhe  way 
up . 

Roger.  Trying  to  get  reel  2  up  to  you,  if  you  warn:. 
Pardon . 

Said,  I'll  bring  reel  2  up  to  you,  if  I  can  get 
there . 


i 

i 


Tape  167/2 


10  09  05  32    CDR  Well,  reel  2  vould  sure  be  a  . . ,  start  vhen  yo: 

consider  all  i 've  got  is  Ron  and  JacK. 

10  09  IT  kg    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Yes,  sir. 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


:dr 


Okay,  Bob,  before  we  exit  PTC  az  20  past  zhe  next 
hour,  we'll  have  to  get  your  final  words  on  the 
midcourse , 

Well,  we're  wording  up  the  midcouj^se  rig:-r&  now,  out 
let's  give  you  some  preliminary  words,  tnat  vou 
won't  exit  PTC  at  that  time  because  midcourse  5 
IS  not  required  -  it's  less  than  0.3  foot  loer 
second.     Right  now  your  gamma  -  flight  path  angle, 
et  cetera,  at  entry  interface  is  all  nominal,  ana 
absolutely  no  midcourse  5  required  at  this  time. 
And  we'll  be  updating  that  as  we  refine  the  data. 

Okay,  well,  that's  -  okay,  well,  we  stil^  exit  PTC, 
Boo.     We  go  to  a  different  attitude.     We  -  Yes,  you 
have  a  different  roll  angle.     I'm  looking  at  the 
right-hand  column  of  the  -  of  the  Flight  Plan. 
Yes,  we  still  exit,  so  we're  going  to  need  some 
words  on  it  by  them. 

Stand  by  on  that.     I've  Just  got  -  back  at  252:20. 
I  was  just  given  the  word  that  we  will  not  - 


it's  just  a  case  of  using  coupled  or  uncoupled 
jets.  Bob. 


LMP  Bob,  you  want  the  IR  on? 

CC  Roger.     We're  ready  for  it 


10  09  20  27    12^  MARK  it.  It 


OK. 


10  Oy  ^2  00    C^  America,  Houston.     We'll  ass'ucie  right  now  - 

anead  and  fly  tne  Flight  Plan  using  the  note, 
tne  right-hand  column  there  as  -  as  f ilea ,  c: 
planned . 


You  say  we  will  use  the  notes  on  the  r; 
side,  right? 


Tape  16t/3 


CC  That's  affirmative.     And  we  have  one  update.  We 

would  like  to  move  up  to  252:10.     We'd  like  to 
move  up  the  IR  COVER,  OPEN  -  - 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  that  is  -  we'd  like  to  move  up  the  IR  COVER, 

OPEN,  which  is  at  252:22,  -  move  that  up  to 
252:10  -  just  put  an  arrow  up  there,  please. 

10  09  22  52    CDR  Okay,  we  got  it. 

10  09  2h  51    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Yes,  sir.     Go  ahead. 

CDR  Quick  update  on  the  crew  status  report.     The  well- 

being  of  the  crew  is  very  satisfactory,  capable 
of  c;urrylng  out  everything  that  is  required  today. 
And,  specifically,  the  health  of  the  crew  is 
excellent . 

CC  That ' s  real  good  news . 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  Just  for  your  information,  Ron  gets  the  same 

treatment  today  that  the  two  -  you  two  surface 
walkers  got.     During  the  mission,  channel  8  in 
Houston  is  going  to  carry  the  full  spacewalk  in 
its  entirety  on  live  television. 

10  09  26  01    CMP  Hey,  Boh,  I  think  that's  outstanding.     Thank  you. 

10  09  28  11    CC  America,  Houston.     I've  got  a  Flight  Flan  updat^e 

for  you. 

IMP  Go  ahead,  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  firs't  of  all  -  at  252:20,  where  it  says, 

"Exit  G&K  PTC  at  roll  angle  071,"  change  the  high 
gain  angles  there  to  minus,  a  pitch  of  minus  6^, 
yaw,  32  -  329. 

L>iP  Okay,  we  got  those. 


Tape  167/U 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CMP 


CDR 

CC 


Okay,  at  252:30,  close  UV  cover.    And  that's  -.0  be 
done  regardless  of  the  fact  that  ve're  scrucbing 
midcourse  5.     Just  close  UV  cover  at  252:30. 


CDR  Okay . 

CC 


CC 


CC 


And  if  you'll  jump  over  to  262:10  -  262:10,  we've 
got  a  change  on  that  attitude  -  as  we're  juso 
tweaking  it  up  a  little  bit  -  039,  230,  ?9T ;  KIGH 
GAIK  angle:     PITCH,  minus  9;  YAW,  339. 

039,  230,  297,  minus  9,  and  339. 


CC  That's  affirm.     We're  just  shooting  a  slightly 

different  point  with  the  UV  at  that  time. 

CDR  Okay. 

10  09  30  38    CDR  We're  ready  to  -  No,  stand  by. 


And  we've  copied  the  93s.  You  can  go  ahead  and 
torque. 


Okay.     We'll  torque  at  11. 
10  09  32  09     IMP  Okay,  the  IR  COVER  is  OPEN. 

CC  Roger.     Good  show. 

10  09  ho  01    CC  America,  Houston. 

Houston,  America.     Did  you  call? 


Roger.     I  called,  but  we're  about  readv  zo  lose 
the  high  gain,     I'll  call  you  back  as  soon  as  ve 
get  back  in. 


10  09  hk         CMP  Houston,  America, 


Go  ahead,  Houston.  Say  it  again  -  Go  aheaa, 
America. 


IMP  (Laughter)     Okay,  we've  got  the  ccmmander's  ir.enu 

for  yesterday. 


Roger.     We're  all  iisxening. 


Tape  167/5 


CMP  Okay.     Scramtled  eggs,  tacon  squares,  pineapple 

drink,  orange  drink,  plain  old  coffee,  and 
10  pecans  -  that's  10  nuts,  not  packages.     And  a 
vitamin.     For  lunch:     bread,  a  chocolate  har ,  an 
orange  drink,  and  a  can  of  tunafish.     For  dinner: 
a  beefa  steaka,  butterscotch  pudding,  peaches, 
orange  drink,  and  catsup.    Medical:     17055,  about 
5  hours  of  fair,  no  medication,  h~±/2  cans  of  water, 
For  the  old  l^jnar  module  pilot:     scrambled  eggs, 
an  orange  PA  drink,  coffee,  sugar  cookie,  and  two 
pecans  -  that's  two  nuts,  not  tvo  packages,  and  a 
vitamin.     For  lunch:     peanut  butter,  jelly,  bread, 
orange  GF  drink,  pork  and  potatoes,  coffee,  and  a 
fruitcake.     For  dinner:     beefa  steaka,  butterscotch 
pudding,  one  peach,  orange  drink,  and  a  coffee. 
The  LMP  medical  log  -  he  had  about  6  hours  of  good 
sleep,  no  medication,  and  two  cans  of  water. 

CC  Wait,  Ron,  we're  going  to  have  an  antenna  switch 

coming  up.     We'll  call  you  back  when  we  get  good 
comm. 

10  09  ^7  51    CMP  Okay. 

10  09  ^9  08    CC  Okay,  America.    We're  back  with  you. 

CMP  Okay.     Just  a  second. 

CC  Just  a  reminder  on  the  food  report,  if  you  want  to 

shorten  them.  It's  normally  used  negative  report- 
ing -  only  those  things  you  don't  eat  on  the  menu. 

CMP  Oh,  well.     I  like  to  talk. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  for  the  command  module  pilot.     For  break- 

fast, he  ate  everything.     Okay,  for  lunch  -  let's 
see,  he  ate  everything  down  to  the  bread,  then  ne 
had  three  slices  of  bread,  didn't  eat  the  cherry 
bar,  add  a  tea,  a  chocolate  bar,  and  a  pack  -  Wait 
a  minute,  I've  got  the  wrong  day,  sorry.  ?^egate 
everything  I've  said  on  the  CMP.     Okay,  we're  on 
the  Ci^'IP  again.     This  time,   it's  day  11.  Okay, 
make  it  six  bacon  squares  instead  of  eight,  aidn't 
eat  the  peaches,  add  a  coffee,  package  of  brownies, 
ana  10  pecans.     And  the  vitamin,  ate  the  vixainin. 


Tape  167/6 


Okay,  for  lunch,   scratch  the  cherry  bar  ana  -de.  i 
coffee.     For  supper,  add  a  catsup.     Okav,  CMPs 
medical  log:     1505*+,  atout  6  hours  of  gooa,  two 
Lomotil,  two  sniffs  of  nosedrops,  four  cans  of 
wat  er . 

10  09  55  06    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We've  stopped  PTC,  and  we've  got  SIM 

bay  jets  on. 

CC  Roger. 


CC 


Okay,  America.  We'd  like  to  cov  -  close  the  UV 
cover,  please. 


10  09  55  57    LMP  Okay,  the  COVER ' s  now  CLOSED. 

10  09  57  17    CC  America,  Houston.     If  you're  all  on  the  headset, 

if  you'd  like,  we've  got  the  news  for  the  morning, 

CDR  Okay;  we're  all  on, 

CC  Okay.     We  start  today's  newscast  out  with  this 

historical  fact.     Today  marks  the  69th  anniversary 
of  man's  first  flight  in  a  heavier-than-air  T^owered 
machine.     Back  on  December  17,  1903,  Wilbur  and 
Orville  Wright,  of  Da;srton,  Ohio,  took  three  historic 
flights  on  the  sand  beaches  of  Kitty  Hawk,  North 
Carolina.     The  brothers  will  be  honored  today  at 
a  ceremony  at  a  visitor's  center  near  the  flying 
site.     How,  a  look  at  the  news.     There's  apparently 
been  a  serious  hitch  in  the  peace  talks  between  the 
U.S.  and  Horth  Vietnam.     Dr. "Henry  Kissinger,  in 
a  curt  news  conference  at  the  White  House,  has  said 
that  the  North  Vietnamese  have  reneged  on  earlier 
agreements  and  have  brought  out  -  brought  the  oeace 
taljcs  to  a  halt.     Dr.  Kissinger  said  the  unreaolveci 
proolems,  which  center  around  the  number  of  peace 
supervisors  and  their  placement,  is  not  accettb.cle 
to  the  President,  and  Kissinger  feels,  ana  we  quote. 

We  have  not  yet  reached  an  agreement  tnat  th^-  ' 
President  considers  just  and  fair."     Final  unoffi- 
cial returns  from  the  Federally  supervisee  election 
name  Arnold  Miller  the  new  president  of  tne  Lnitea 
Mine  Workers.     His  victory  over  Tony  Eoyle  attcars 
to  be  only  his  first  step  in  his  pror.tse  to  cloan 
up  the  union.     ?orrr.er  President  l'ru.7;an  re.r.ains  in 
serious  condition  at  a  Kansas  City  ncs- 


I  -J  A.  . 


Tape  167 /T 


Doctors  say  that  the  88-year  old  Truman  is  not 
responding  to  treatment.     In  the  congressional 
spotlight  in  Washington,  it  appears  that  the  con- 
test for  the  position  of  House  Majority  Leader  will 
"be  "between  Representative  Thomas  O'Ueal  of  Massa- 
chusetts and  Congressman  Sam  Gihhons  of  Florida. 
The  two  will  vie  for  the  post  left  vacant  by  the 
absent  and  presumed  death  of  Congressman  Hale 
Boggs .     Boggs  disappeared  in  the  crash  of  a  light 
plane  in  Alaska,  in  October.     Northeastern  Ohio 
has  been  blasted  by  a  blizzard.    As  much  as 
28  inches  of  snow  has  fallen,  blocking  highways  and 
closing  airports.     An  additional  foot  is  expected  - 
was  expected  before  it  was  to  move  east .  Cleveland 
has  been  very  hard  hit  with  the  white  stuff,  and 
the  snow  is  now  moving  into  the  northeast.  They'll 
have  a  white  Christmas  up  that  way.     Here  in  Clear 
Lake,  it's  a  clear,  crispy  day,  but  a  chilly  Sun- 
day morning.     Ellington  had  a  27  this  morning. 
Might  take  a  look  at  sports  here.     Miami  defeated 
Baltimore  yesterday  I6  to  0,  to  go  undefeated  in 
the  American  Football  Conference  of  the  NFL. 

CC  America,  Houston.    The  UV  COVER  appears  on  our 

telemetry  to  still  be  OPEN.     Could  you  cycle  it 
and  see  if  we  can  get  it  CLOSED,  or  just  give  us 
what  your  onboard  talkback  looks  like . 

10  10  00  36    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     I  got  it  -  I  only  got  it  to  the  inter- 

mediate position. 

CC  Roger;  thank  you. 

CC  Okay.     In  a  real  hair  raiser  at  Candlestick  Park, 

San  Francisco,  John  Brodie  came  off  the  bench  late 
in  the  game,  in  fact,  in  the  last  2  minutes  of  the 
third  quarter,  and  led  the  U9ers  to  a  20  to  IT  win 
over  the  Minnesota  "Vikings  .     The  win  gives  the 
Western  Division  crown  to  t'he  k^ers  in  the  National 
Conference.     Kis  -  the  last  touchdown  t"nrown  was 
with  5  seconds  remaining  in  t"ne  game.     T'nat  puts 
the  Washington  Redskins,  Green  Bay,  San  Francisco, 
and  Dallas  Cowboys  in  the  NFC  playoffs  and  closes 
out  the  NFC  contest.     In  the  American  Conference, 
There's  one  key  game  today  to  decide  the  winner  of 
";he  Central  Division.     Pitt3burg"n  plays  San  Diego 
and  Cleveland  plays  the  Sew  York  Jets  .  Hoz'n 


Tape  167/8 


Cleveland  and  Pittsburgh  will  get  into  the  playoffs, 
l)ut  their  position  in  the  standings  is  not  yet 
known.     One  will  be  the  wild-card  team,  one  will 
be  the  conference  -  division  winner.     lYiami  and 
Oakland  are  the  other  teams  in  the  American  Con- 
ference playoffs.     Cincinnati  plays  here  at  Houston. 
And  we'll  keep  you  posted  on  that  one.     In  local 
high  school  football,  Eaytown  Sterling  scored  a 
major  upset  by  defeating  San  Antonio  Lee  in  the 
hA  semifinals.     The  score  was  21  to  20  and  the 
game  in  the  Astrodome  before  26,000  fans.  The 
loss  was  the  first  in  28  games  for  the  San  Antonio 
school.     In  basketball,  the  Houston  Cougars  downed 
California  last  night,  79  to  75.     Some  other  major 
college  scores:     Kansas,  60,  over  San  Francisco,  58; 
Penn  State,  65,  over  Boston,  63;  New  Mexico  State, 
69,  Texas  El  Paso,  k9;  Indiana,  89,  Ohio,  68; 
Minnesota,  87,  Loyola,  8I;  Florida  State,  85, 
Baylor,  67.     And  in  pro  basketball,  Houston  defeated 
the  Detroit  Pistons,  123  to  112. 

10  10  02  37    CO  And  Just  a  final  note  from  all  your  friends  down 

at  Cape  Kennedy,  they'd  just  like  you  to  know  that 
the  Merritt  Island  High  School  won  the  Florida 
State  Championship,  defeating  Tallahassee  Leon 
High  School,  i+0  to  21.     And,  that's  pretty  much 
the  update  for  the  morning. 

10  10  02  56    CDR  Thank  you,  Robert,  for  that  Sunday  morning  news 

break . 

10  10  Ok  09    CDR  Houston,  America.     Are  we  GO  for  the  fuel  cell  and 

waste  water  dump  and  the  other  dumps  to  go? 

CC  Roger.     You're  GO  for  that,  and  we're  watching 

them  down  here. 

10  10  Oh  26    CDR  Okay,  we'll  start  the  waste  water  dump. 

10  ^0  07  39    CC  17,  Houston.     We'd  like  AUTO  on  the  KIC-h  GAIa  . 


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10  10  08  19    CC  America,  Houston.     I  don't  think  I  ever  updated 

your  consumables,  and  just  a  real  quick  update. 
You're  above  the  line  on  all  your  oxygen  tanks. 
You're  above  the  Flight  Plan  line  on  all  yom- 
hydrogen  tanks  or  right  on  the  line.     And  you're 
3  percent  above  the  line  on  the  RCS .  That's 
Flight  Plan  usage  at  this  time,  so  you're  above 
the  line  on  everything • 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Thanks  much. 

10  10  09  U8     CC  America,  Houston.     The  M  C&W  on  the  FUEL  CELL  an 

FLOW  HIGH  is  normal. 

LMP  Yes.     I  guess  I  finally  learned  that.  Bob,  and  it 

didn't  bother  me  a  bit. 

10  10  12  25    CC  America,  Houston.     While  you're  working  on  the  fuel 

cell  area  there,  we'd  like  to  reconfigure  our  H^ 

tank  fans.     We'd  like  H    tank  2  FANs  to  ON,  H 
tank  3  FAUs  to  OFF. 


10  10  12  h3    LMP  Okay,  you  got  it, 


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Tape  168/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10  10  26  09     CDR  For  a  while,  until  things  stabilize. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  We  haven't  heard  any  report  from  you  on  -  and 

we're  Just  kind  of  curious.     Have  you  had  a  lot 
of  condensation  moisture  around  the  cockpit? 

CDR  Negative.     No,  it's  "been  very  dry. 

CC  Okay;  real  good.     Well,  just  a  reminder;  may  not 

"be  applicable  if  you've  got  a  good  dry  cockpit 
there.     On  16  we  had  some  -  rather  strange  read- 
ings on  the  EVAP  OUT  temperature  and  a  few  other 
ones.     And  the  potential  is  there  for  you  to  get 
those  same  readings  -  especially  if  you  had  had 
moisture  -  the  potential  is  to  get  those  readings 
at  -  after  depress,  and  we'll  be  watching  it 
closely.     I  guess  -  I  don't  want  to  say  just 
ignore  them,  but  we'll  be  watching  them  and  take 
any  readings  for  after  depress  there  with  a  grain 
of  salt.     And  while  you're  at  it,  you  might  go 
down  and  zero  the  optics  if  you've  got  somebody 
in  the  lilB. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,   stand  by.     We'll  get  that.     Listen,  the 

tunnel  is  dry  up  to  the  hatch.     However,  when  you 
put  your  hand  up  in  the  tunnel  around  the  -  the 
edge  of  the  hatch  and  on  the  -  on  the  outer  periph- 
ery of  the  hatch  itself,  there  is  quite  a  bit  of 
moisture  up  there.     We  looked  up  there  yesterday 
and  couldn't  find  any,  but  there  is  some  up  there 
today.     And  the  face  of  the  hatch  is  slightly 
moist,  but  it's  not  -  nothing  like  bubbles. 

CC  Okay.     Well,  we  just  want  you  to  be  aware  that 

you  may  see  some  extraneous  ECS  readings.  It's 
no  problem  at  all,  but,  you  know,  just  wanted  you 
to  be  aware  of  it. 


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CC  Gene,  the  specific  thing  on  l6  that  occurred 

was  -  as  we  thought  it  out  was  that  the  ECU  con- 
trol unit  back  of  that  panel  there  had  the  freez- 
ing -  we  think  -  freezing  of  the  water  on  it, 
causing  the  "bad  readings. 

CDR  Okay.     When  we  changed  the  canister  this  morning, 

Ron  tells  me,  there  was  water  back  there,  too. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  just  -  we  can  just  expect  some  pos- 

sible erroneous  readings. 


10  10  30  03     CDR  OPTICS  to  ZERO.     G/N  POWER  is  OFF. 

CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go,  America. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We're  eliminating  everything  in  the 

Flight  Plan  between  253:10,  where  you  terminate 
the  waste  water  dump,  which  has  been  done,  and 
we're  picking  it  up  on  EVA  Checklist  at  253:50. 


CC  Okay;  that  sounds  great,  Geno.  Press. 

CDP,  Okay. 

CC  fisid,   17,   if  we  could  have  ACCEPT,  we'll  give  you 
state  vector. 

CDR  Okay,  Mr.   R.     You've  got  ACCEPT. 

CC  Okay. 

10  10  3i  ".--L     CC  Say  again?     Oh,   the  computer's  yours,  America. 

CDR  Okay;  thank  you.     The  computer  is  ours. 

CC  Roger. 

10  10  k2  21     UT  Houston,  1?. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 


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LMP  Yes,  ^ake  a  look  at  the  LMPs  tiiomed  and  see  how 

it  looks  to  you  this  morning. 

CC  LE^Ps  "iDiomed  looks  pretty  good,  America. 

10  10  U2  52     LI-IP  Okay. 

10  11  03  2  5    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    The  command  module  pilot  hiomed 

should  1)6  on  the  line. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     We'll  give  you  a  word  here. 

Q(2  Ron,  your  hiomed  looks  great. 

10  11  oh  G9    CMP  Okay;  mighty  fine. 

10  11  11  52     CMP  Hello,  Houston.     We  just  turned  the  CABIN  FAN,  OFF. 

CC  Roger.     We  are  copying  it  -  cabin  temp  around  70. 

Is  it  a  little  more  comfortable? 

Cr4P  Well,  we  got  two  extremes. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Okay;   let's  see  now,  the  EVA  umbilical  bag  is  on 

the  rock  boxes  -  on  the  -  LiOH  cans  now.  What's 
next,  Jack? 

Lt-lP  Yes. 

10  11  ih  29    CC  America,  we're  showing   

CI/lP  ...     Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  we're  showing  a  slightly  high  0^  flow.  We're 

Just  wondering  if  all  the  waste  compartment  vents 
and  all  your  dump  vents  are  closed  as  per  the 
Flight  Plan. 

Well,  as  a  matter  of  face,  no.     OVERBOARD  DRAIN 
was  OPEN  -  Let's  see,  BATTERY  VENT  was  CLOSED 
during  the  water  dump,  but  now  it's  to  VENT. 
WASTE  STOWAGE  VENT  is  now  CLOSED.     We're  thinking 
about  opening  that  WASTE  STOWAGE  VENT,   anyhow,  to 
keep  any  possible  breakage  in  there  from  coming 


C1>^P 


Tape  l68/i+ 


CC 

CMP 
CDR 

CG 

CDR 

mp 
cm 

10  11  18  01  LMP 
CDR 

10  11  19  10  G!>!P 
CMP 

CC 


tack  into  the  cabin.     And  that  way  it  might  go 
outside  during  the  depress  instead  of  inside. 
What  do  you  all  think  oi"  that? 


Let  us  dehate  that  one. 
but  let  us  debate  it. 

Okay. 


It  so^unds  pretty  good, 


Tom,  the  principle  concern  is  those  BUSS  samples. 

Roger.     I  understand  your  concern.     I  -  we'll  work 
on  it  here.     I  don't  think  there's  any  problem 
to  it . 

Okay.  But  all  I'm  saying  is  that  the  BUSS  samples 
have  never  flown  before. 

Yes,  the  EVA  umbilical  bag  is  snapped  on  there. 
Okay.  They're  hooked  up  there,  but  let  me  make 
sure  it's  hooked  down  at  the  bottom  this  time. 

I  don't  think  -  I  don't  -chink  it  has  been  yet. 
It  would,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

Okay;  the  A-2  rock  bag  is  tied  up.  Yes. 

Okay;  that  A-7  bag's  all  squared  away.  Okay; 
and  let's  see  what  we  got  there,  so  we  can  reach 
those  at  the  bottom.     Temporary  storage  bag  is 
clear  in  the  top.     Yes,  we  want  to  leave  them 
there  so  I  can  open  the  bottom.     Are  they  tied 
up?     Okay;  here  we  are.  Okay. 

Yes,  I'll  have  to.     Oh,  it  will  hold  up  there  as 
long  as  I  snap  it.     Yes,  the  EVA  bags  are  okay. 

Okay.     We  got  everything  we  want  in  the  Jett 
bag  now? 

Hey,  Houston,  this  is  America.     Obviously  I'm 
on  VOX  here,  so  I'll  try  and  keep  you  informed 
on  how  things  are  going. 

Ajuerica,  Houston. 


Tape  168/5 


CMP  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Some  words  concerning  the  waste  management  vent. 

We  really  don't  care  what  you  do  with  it  now  until  - 
until  2C  minutes  prior  to  your  suit  integrity  check. 
We  would  like  to  have  it  closed  for  a  good  stabi- 
lized reading  during  suit  integrity  check,  and  it 
requires  to  he  closed  20  minutes  prior  to  that  time 
for  a  stabilized  flow.     After  the  suit  integrity 
check,  if  you  desire  to  open  it  during  the  cabin 
depress,  that's  okay  with  us. 

Cr-IP  Okay.     We'll  leave  it  closed  now,   and  during  cabin 

depress,  we'll  probably  open  it  then, 

CC  Okay.     Vfould  you  like  us  to  remind  you  on  it  or 

just  press  on  like  you  are  doing? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm.     We  can  use  all  the  help  we 

can  get. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay . 

10  11  22  02     CDR  Okay,  Jack.     The  jett  bag  is  taped.     Okay.  Tempo- 

rarily stowed. 

LMP  We're  down  to  mag  already. 

CDR  On  the  camera,  yes.     Okay;  8.     Okay.     Yes,  this 

is  a  biggy.     Okay;  let  me  verify.     I  think  I've 
already  got  that.    Ah  ha,  there  it  is.     Yes.     Ah  ha, 
there  it  is. 

Cf'IP  Okay;  we've  got  that  one.     Check  it.     Yes;  we're 

okay.  Yes.  I  don't  have  mine  on  yet,  but  here 
it  is.  Yes,  it's  there.  It's  installed.  Jack 
screws  are  fully  open.  Yes,  I  -  I  got  it  open, 
but  I  didn't  take  anything  out.  Everything  was 
already  out. 


10  11  2k  kO  CDR 


Okay;  TV  pole.  Right  hand.  Yes,  I  knew,  rock  box. 
No,  not  for  me.     Look  good. 


Tape  168/6 


CMP  Gene,  do  you  know  how  to  run  an  extension  on  the 

OPS  (laughter)?  Okay. 

CI>IP  Okay.     What  did  you  say?    You  want  A-2  now? 

CDR  Okay;  we're  A-2. 

cm  Okay,  Houston;  America.     The  OPS  checks  out  at 

5900  psi  and  is  regulating  to  3.9. 

CO  Roger,  Gene. 

LMP  Okay.     The  old  PGA  bag  is  installed. 

CMP  Okay.     And  the  EV  gloves  are  on.  Okay? 

10  11  28  11     CDR  For  some  reason,  they're  called  entry  boots 

up  here. 

10  11  23  Okay.     Tiedown  rope.     Where  does  it  go?  Okay. 

And  the  -  Okay;  everything  goes   . . . 

UT  Okay.     Vac  hag  is  in  there,  headrest  pads,  tiedown 

ropes,  and  heel  clips. 

LMP  Okay;  lunar  sounder  cassette  bag  is  in  the  EVA  bag. 

CDR  Yes. 

LMP  What'd  we  do  with  that  tissue  dispenser,  Gene? 

CDR  We  use  it  up? 

U-T  No,  we  .  .  . 

li^l?  Yes,   just  like  that.     An  ha,  there's  the  old 
pressure  gauge.     And  it  reads  0. 

CDR  Okay.     It's  in  the  wrist  tether  pouch? 

L:-IP  You're  clumsy,  too. 

CDR  Okay.     Ah  ha,  this  one? 

LMP  Yes . 


Tape  168/T 


TDR  (Laughter)  I  was  just  acting  surprised;  I  really 

know  where  they  go.     That's  a  little  -  We  listen 
thax  way. 

XJ^p  They're  not  on  yet. 

CMP  Can't  hold  everything  still  to  get  the  thing  in 

there . 

Uvip  Bag  go  in  there?    Got  it  all  stowed? 

CMP  Oh,  yes. 

I2-1P  Hand  controllers  are  stowed. 

IMP  Okay;  counterbalance  is  all  squared  away. 

CDR  Yes. 
LMP  Okay? 
10  11  33  35    CDR  What  kind  of  -  what  kind  of  lens? 

LMP  Keep  it  in  F-1  all  the  time, 

LMP  Let's  use  that  other  DAC.     It  goes  on  the  pole 

with  the  hut  you  can  hook  it  up.     Well,  let' 

put  it  on  the  pole  first,  I  guess. 

IJ-IP  A-1,  decon  bag. 

CDR  Oh,  okay.     I  didn't  know  what  you  meant.  I've 

got  to  get  in  A-1  is  what  you  are  saying. 

LMP  Don't  forget        jett  bag  is  down  there.     Okay;  ti: 

old  Jett  bag's  on  the  other  side  now. 

CDR  In  the   . . .  pocket. 

LMP  Hey,  Gene,  can  you  attach  this  to  something  up 

there?  Okay. 

LMP  ...  out  of  here  again. 

CDR  No,  it's  dirt  out  here  again. 


Tape  168/8 


10  11  37  09    LMP  Okay;  you  get  that  . . .  finished? 


CDR 


CDR 


LMP 

CDR 
LMP 


Here  we  go.  Here  comes  the  cable.  Here  comes  the 
monitor.     Well,  go  that  way,  I  guess.     Oh,  okay. 

Here  it  is.     There's  the  tape.     Okay.     What  else 
do  we  need  out  of  the  -  out  of  the  A-1?     Yes.  Yes. 
Yes.     Package  of  towels.     Oh,  okay.     That's  right. 
We  need  a  package  of  towels,  don't  we?    That's  to 
clean  off  the  -  all  the  stuff  when  we  bring  it 
back  in,  huh?    Who  -  whose  towel  do  we  use?  Do 
we  use  the  commaiider '  s?    Well,  I'll  use  one  of 
mine  (laughter).     Okay;  here's  the  package  of 
towels . 

Okay;  you  got  a  bunch  of  them.     We're  only  going 
to  need  three  or  four. 

Yes.     Well,  yes.     You  guys  aren't,  but  I  still  am. 

Yes,  okay.     Well,  I'm  not  ready  to  depressurize 
yet  either. 


CDR  Okay;  that's  A-1. 

LMP  Okay . 

CDR  The  cable;   the  TV. 

LMP  Put  the  cable  on  first. 

10  11        i+3    UJP  They  should  be  okay,  but  .  .  . 

IMP  It  just  hooks  like  that. 

CMP  Go-,  one? 

10  II  1+6  56     LI^IP  Got  one. 

10  11  50  Ik     CMP  Houston,  in  case  you're  wondering,  we're  still 

routing  cables. 


Roger.     We've  got  you  down  in  the  checklist,  the 
step  just  prior  to  "S-BAI^D  AUX  TV  to  SCI."  Do 
you  concur  on  that? 


Tape  168/9 


Yes.  We're  still  keeping  TV  and  DAC  calsles  and 
vhat  have  you  up  to  the  pole. 


CC  Roger.     We  get  you  Ron. 

10  11  52  LMP  ...  before  we  run  out  of  those. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Yes,  go  ahead. 

CC  Is  Gene  in  the  coramander ' s  seat  at  this  time? 

CMP  That's  affirm. 


Okay;  I'll  delay  then  -  a  minute  here.  We're 
going  to  have  a  VERB  h9  maneuver  coming  up  to  you. 
We're  getting  the  SIM  bay  a  little  bit  cold,  and 
ve  want  to  warm  up  those  handrails,  so  we'll  be 
maneuvering  here  at  about  1+  -  At  25U:U5,  I'll 
have  a  maneuver  for  you. 


CMP  Okay;  we're  ready  from  now  on  any  time. 

CC  Just  stand  by.     We  want  to  check  out  the  numbers. 

I  Just  wanted  to  give  you  the  word  that  we  were 
going  to  make  this  maneuver. 

CMP  Any  time.  Bob. 

10  11  55  57    IMP  Well,  you're  going  to  have  to  put  on  your  helmet 

It's  really  over  that  way  a  little  bit  more,  be- 
cause I  got  to  get  into  the  hatch  to  get  it  out. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  169/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAlfSCRIPTION 


10  11  58  19     CMP  Well,  anyhow,  it's  all  taped  up.     What's  next? 

Okay.     There's  the  old  crewman's  IV  tether. 

CMP  Ah.     Found  something  we  didn't  practice. 

CC  America,  Houston,     I've  got  the  VERB  U9  maneuver. 

CDR  Oh.     Okay.     Go  ahead  with  the  nijmhers. 

CC  Okay.     It's  ROLL,  150;  PITCH,  2l6;  YAW,  330.  And 

that's  -  we'd  like  that  maneuver  to  start  at  25^:^5- 
Just  prior  to  starting  that  maneuver,  we'd  like 
the  IR  COVER  CLOSED  and  the  IR  OFF. 

CDR  Okay.     At  2^:1+5  you  want  150,  2l6,  and  330.  Prior 

to  maneuver,  you  want  IR  CLOSED  and  OFF.  And 
what  about  the  jets  on  that.  Boh? 

CC  The  same  jets  you  have  configured.     Did  you  read 

ROLL,  150 ;  PITCH,  2l6;  and  YAW,  330:     Is  that  what 
you  read? 

CDR  That's  what  I  read,  and  I'll  stay  in  SIM  hay  jets. 

CC  Okay,  and  you'll  need  these  new  high-gain  antenna 

angles:     PITCH,  minus  32;  YAW,  52. 

CDR  Okay.     PITCH  is  minus  32,  and  YAW  is  52.     Got  it. 

CMP  Okay,  and  then  what?    Okay.     Okay.     I'll  get  off  of 

the  headset  now  then. 

LMP  Okay.     Panel  POWER  OFF,  SUIT  POWER  OFF  and  AUDIO 

CONTROL  NORMAL.     Got  it?     COTWROL  NORMAL.  Okay. 
Panel  60*+,  Geno,  is  SUIT  PRESSURE  ALARM  OFF, 
verify . 

10  12  01  I43    CDR  OFF. 

LMP  All  caps  from  603. 

■CDR  Removed. 


Tape  169/2 


LMP 

CC 

LMP 

CDR 

CC 

10  12  02  18  CDR 
LMP 
CDR 
Lf-lP 

10  12  02  22  LMP 
CC 
LMP 

CDR 
CC 


10  12  03  h6  CDR 
CDR 
LMP 


Unsnap  CMP  comm  carrier  -  cable  from  0^  umbilical, 
and  we'll  beep  for  you  on  it  when  you're  -  - 

America,  Houston. 

-  -  ready . 

Okay.     We're  going  to  go  ahead  and  close  the  IR 
and  turn  it  off  at  this  time. 

America,  Houston.    Would  you  Just  close  the  IR , 
and  we'll  cue  you  on  the  OFF  call?    We'd  like  to 
see  it  here,  and  we'd  like  to  do  that  as  a  cue. 

Okay.     It's  OFF. 

Okay . 

CLOSED,  rather. 

COVER'S  CLOSED. 

MARK  it.     And  it  went  gray. 

Roger.     We  copy  that. 

Okay.     Route  outboard  of  the  strut  and  wires  and 
connect  CCU  head  to  603. 


Geno,  I'd  like  to  give  you  just  one  bit  of  inform- 
ation we  just  got  from  the  simulator.     V/hen  you  go 
from  this  new  attitude  I  gave  you  -  this  VERB  ^9 
a.ttitude  right  now  -  to  the  EVA  attitude,  you  will 
see  a  middle  gimbal  angle  of  66  degrees.  That's 
right  off  the  simulator. 

Okay,  Bob.     Thank  you  very  much. 

We're  maneuvering.  Bob. 

Okay,  you  got  it  connected?     Secure  cable  to  TV 
bracket  and  top  of  strut  using  two  straps. 


CMP 


Tape  169/3 


LMP  Okay.     You  understand  that?     Secure  cable  -  and 

that's  the  same  one,  the  comm  cahles  -  to  TV 
hracket  -  top  of  strut  using  tvo  straps.     You  got 
that? 

10  12  06  52    LMP  Okay.     Position  the  TV  monitor.     You  got  that? 

And  -  disconnect  PGA  bag  from  couch  at  four  places, 
Ron. 


LMP  Going  to  have  to  move  the  old  jett  bag,  though. 

Back  over  to  your  side,  I  guess,  Ron.     Yes,  let's 
get  this  jett  bag  over  on  the  other  side.  You 
want  to  unhook  the  PGA  bag.     I've  got  the  front 
tvo.     Okay.     Uow  you  can  take  the  center  couch  out. 

CMP  Yes. 

LMP  Think  you  can  handle  this  GOG  [?],  Ron? 

LMP  It  certainly  comes  out  easier,  doesn't  it?    I  mean 

like  you're  going  to  have  to  -  ...  that  way  -  that's 
right,  because  this  place  is  fuller  than  the  mock- 
up  ever  was . 

LMP  Yes,  it's  the  old  full  spacecraft  story.  Well, 

look  what  turned  up  here;  the  clock.     Maps.  Well, 
they  should  be  in  R-5-     Wait  a  minute.     Yes.  Okay. 


10  12  10  07    LMP  Secured?     Yes.     Okay.     Close  and  lock  your  old 

marmon  clamps . 

LMP  Closed  and  locked?     Okay.     Open  the  old  -  the 

EVA  umbilical  bag. 

CMP  Open. 


LMP  Unsnap  the  top  strap  and  remove  spacecraft  end  of 

EVA  umb  all  the  way  to  the  second  tiedown  strap. 
And  you're  going  to  attach  that  to  603,  but  verify 
that  the  EVA  STATION  0^  is  OFF.     Attach  the  EVA 

ijunbilical  to  603.  Route  over  couch  beam  and  under 
wires . 

CC  Jack,  whenever  it's  convenient,  you  might  turn  off 

the  IR  now.     It's  looking  great. 


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LMP  Okay.     The  IR  ALARM  switch  is  going  to  OFF. 

10  12  13  OU    LMP  MARK. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

LMP  Okay.     You  got  the  0^  locked? 

CMP  Yes. 

•  LMP  ELECTRICAL  locked? 

CMP  Yes . 

LMP  Umhilical  tether  to  couch  ring  and  lock  and  install 
pin. 

CMP  Okay. 

LMP  Got  that?     SCU  OPEN,  bleed  system,  SCU  CLOSED. 

LiAP  Okay.     And  you  can  close  it  if  your  system  has 

bled  down.    Unstow  press  gage  from  EVA  bag  and 
connect  the  gage  to  603.    And  tape  the  flashlight 
to  panel  603  guard.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay . 

10  12  Ih  37    LMP  And  then  we  can   

CDR  . . .  gage? 

LMP  Yes,  install  the  gage,  tape  the  flashlight,  and 

then  we  get  rid  of  the  tape,  yes.     Got  one? 

LMP  Leave  the  tape  on  that  so  the  light  won't  get  out, 

Ron.     (Laughter)     Jerry  Griffin  told  me  that  one. 

LMP  Once  you're  taped  it  you  can  stow  the  tape.  Un- 

stow from  the  left-hand  temporary  stowage  bag, 
top  pocket:     PURGE  VALVE,  stow  in  EVA  bag,  PURGE 


VALVE  patch  -  pouch.  And  then  the  waist  tethers, 
also.     (Humming)    Waist  tethers  are  in  that  bag. 


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10  12  16  21    LMP  Houston,  do  you  have  recoinmendation  on  whether  we 

use  208  or  211  PURGE  VALVE?  You  -  you  were  very 
interested  In  that  on  the  lunar  surface.  Here's 
yours ,  I  guess . 

CC  Stand  "by.     We're  getting  it. 

CDR  Boh  -  Boh,  we're  using  my  OPS,  so  I  assume  it 

would  be  208. 

CC  That  sounds  good,  Gene. 

LMP  Okay.    Here's  some  more  tape,  Geno.     Stow  in  the 

EVA  bag  in  the  proper  pouch,  and  then  get  the 
waist  -  both  waist  tethers  out.     And  we  can  attach 
them  up  here  to  the  guards . 

LMP  Yes  ,  I ' 11  get  it .    And  we  want  one  over  on  the 

other  side,  wherever  the  other  one  is. 

LMP  Okay.     PURGE  VALVE  waist  -  and  there's  another 

waist  tether  in  the  EVA  bag. 

LMP  Yes,  hook  that  up  there.     ...  put  that  up  . . .  Oh, 

that's  yours.  I'm  sorry  (laughter).  I  was  looking 
for  this  one.    All  right. 

LMP  Yes,  that's  the  one.     I  verified  that.  Numbers? 

Okay . 

10  12  19  56    CDR  Okay,  Bob   

LMP  Okay . 

.  CDR  -  -  we're  at  the  attitude,  and  the  high  gain  is 

set.     And  I  never  did  see  that  middle  gimbal  angle 
get  to  60. 

LMP  Unstow  the  CDRs  LEVA,  and  leave  the  EVA  bags  in  the 

LEVA  bag  -  EVA  gloves  in  the  LEVA  bag. 

CC  Okay,  Geno.     It  will  be  the  next  maneuver  that 

you'll  see  that  middle  gimbal  angle  out  around 
60  -  66  degrees . 

CDR  Okay . 


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LMP  Should  have  vacuumed  those  things  (laughter).  And 

particularly  since  you're  going  to  be  looking  into 
the  Sun  (laughter). 

CMP  Hey  ... 

LMP  That's  right. 

LMP  Okay,  where?  ... 

LMP  Put  the  -  put  them  in  the  tan  TSB.     No,  not  yet. 

That's  the  -  Yes,  unstov  the  LMP  LEVA  and  EV  gloves. 
Put  the  gloves  in  the  top  pocket. 

10  12  2k  11    LMP  Oh,  they're  in  the  left-hand  top  pocket.    We  wiped 

those  off  quite  a  bit.    They're  not  half  bad  now. 
I  don't  have  any  instructions. 

10  12  27  13    LMP  Okay.     I  think  we  can  stick  these  under  the  couch. 

LMP  Yes.     Put  your  LEVA  on  the  helmet.     Okay,  LEVA  bags 

go  up  in  the  tunnel.  Then  we  need  to  get  the  CDR's 
helmet  out,  too. 

CDR  Houston,  this  is  America.     By  my  count,  we're  still 

about  30  or  kO  minutes  ahead  here. 

CC  Roger,  Gene.     You're  looking  good. 

LMP  Oh,  not  too  far.     I'll  have  to  -  can't  tell  from 

the  list.     ...  the  next  page?    Huh?    Yes.     Oh  ... 
I  wouldn't  know  if  my  helmet  was  fogged  up  or  not. 

LMP  Supposed  to  have  put  them  in  the  left-hand  - 

10  12  30  ih     LMP  Got  a  place  for  that  ...? 

LMP  Somewhere  I  ceased  to  be  careful  with  my  helmet,  I 

can  see  that  because  ...  (Huimning) 

LMP  Okay.     Have  you  got  the  CDR's  helmet  unstoved?  The 

IV  gloves? 


LI^P 


Put  your  helmet  stowage  bag  over  there.  Yes. 
Place  accessory  bag  in  the  stowage  bag.     IV  gloves 
in  the  temporary  stowage  bag. 


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10  12  3h  19    LMP  Okay.     You  got  your  helmet  on?    Verified  your 

visors?    Verify  the  LEVA  visors?    Okay,  and  we 
antifogged.     Okay.    And  the  helmets  and  LEVAs  are 
under  the  CDR  couch.     Stow  loose  items.  Verify 
all  your  loose  items ,  gents . 

LMP  We've  used  it  all. 

LMP  Okay.     Let  me  verify  that  we've  got  all  the  covers 

closed.     One,  two  -  Covers  are  closed.     Panel  230, 
MAPPING  CAMERA,  OFF.     SOUNDER  RECORDER  is  OFF,  IR 
Is  OFF,  SELF  TEST,  HEATERS  to  -  Just  ahout.  You 
can  get  -  you  can  work  in  that  direction  now. 
You're  happy  with  loose  items  and  everything? 

CDR  .  . .  first  ? 

LMP  CMP  first.     Yes.     They've  gotten  it.     Yes.  Then 

me  and  then  you.     I'm  just  reading  you  the  proce- 
dures is  all. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     For  a  little  while  things  may  sound 

a  little  hit  confused.     We're  going  to  do  the  old 
thing  about  getting  into  suits. 

GC  Roger.    We're  copying  that. 

LMP  And  if  you  don't  hear  from  us  -  if  you  don't  hear 

from  us,  off  and  on;  well,  that's  because  we're  not 
talking  to  you. 

CDR  And,  Bob,  the  CDR's  going  off  the  loop  right  now. 

I'll  be  back  in  plenty  of  time  for  that  maneuver. 

CO  Okay. 

10  12  37  22    LMP  And  -  let's  see,  continuing  right  here.     SELF  TEST 

is  OFF,  and  the  UV  is  OFF.     And  the  DATA  SYS  -  the 
ON,  switch  is  to  OFF,  strange  as  that  may  sound. 
And  -  I  can.     Yes,  I  will.     I'll  stay  on  for  a 
while,  until  Gene  gets  suited. 

LMP  And  the  panel  5  lUSTRUMENTATIOK  SCIENCE  EQUIPMENT 

SEE  circuit  breakers  are  coming  OPEN.     Two  are 
open.     Ron,  you  may  want  to  watch  that.  Yes. 


10  12  38.  36  LMP 


I  already  stowed  mine  in  my  temporary  stowage  bag. 
That ' s  it  ... 


Tape  169/8 


CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Yes,  go  ahead. 

CC  Did  Ron  unplug  from  the  biomed  for  a  while? 

LMP  Yes,  he  is  off  the  biomed  for  a  while. 

CC  Okay.     Thank  you. 

LMP  But  you  can  look  at  me  for  a  while. 

10  12  hi  03    CC  Yes,  you're  there. 

10  12  51  30    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Gene's  got  his  suit  on  now,  and 

he'll  help  Jack  get  into  his. 


CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CMP  And  in  case  you're  won  -  in  case  you're  wondering, 

we  changed  the  procedure  there  a  little  bit.  It 
was  more  convenient  for  them  to  get  those  guys 
suited  first  and  then  me. 


CC  Okay.    We'll  buy  that.    You  still  are  off  of  biomed. 

Do  you  concur  on  that? 

CMP  Yes,  if  you  want  to  take  a  look  at  it,  I  can  plug 

it  in  here.     I'm  on  Jack's  headset  now,  but  I  can 
plug  it  in  if  you  want  me  to. 

CC  No,  no  problem  -  no  problem.     We  just  wanted  to  - 

you  know,  it's  easier  to  remind  you  now  than  it  is 
to  have  you  unzip  the  suit  or  something,  that's  all. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Yes,  I  understand.     Let  me  check  and  see 

if  it's  still  working.     I'll  go  off  first  and  then 
back  on. 


CMP  Okay.     It's  hooked  up  now. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     You  look  good.     You're  breathing. 

10  12  52  h6    cm  I'm  breathing,  huh?  .Okay. 

10  13  01  25    CDR  Okay,  Bob,  CDR's  suited  and  back  on  the  comm  and 

biomed. 


Tape  169/9 


CC  Okay.    We  copy  that. 

LMP  Houston,  how  do  you  read  the  LMP? 

CC  LMP,  we  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

LMP  Okay.    I'm  in  w  suit  and  on  suit  comm  now. 

CC  And  136  advised  the  CDR  and  LMP  both  look  good  on 

biomed. 

LMP  Okay.     And  we're  going  to  get  the  old  CMP  in  the 

suit  here. 


CC  Okay. 

LMP  That  or  we'll  let  him  do  it  "by  himself  since  he's 

so  proficient  at  it  now. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We're  copying  you  as  being  some- 

what ahead  on  your  time  line,  so  don't  rush  on  the 
on  the  suit  donning. 

LMP  Roger.     We're  not  rushing,  just  going  at  it  system- 

atically.    We  apparently  learned  how  to  do  it, 
thou^,  somewhere  along  the  line. 

CC  Okay.    Well,  just  want  you  to  he  advised  we  don't 

particularly  want  to  start  early;  and,  therefore, 
you're  ahead  of  the  time  line  right  now.  You  can 
take  a  break  afterwards  maybe. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  ...  on  that  one. 

10  13  05  3h    LMP  Understand,  Bob.  Understand. 

10  13  ik  01    LMP  Houston,  this  is  the  LMP.     I've  got  something  for 

you  you've  been  looking  forward  to.  It ' s  a  number. 
It's  2U1T3. 


Roger,  Jack. 

Jack,  I  wasn't  sure  what  you  were  talking  about 
there  for  a  minute,  but  it  lit  up  the  face  on  the 
panel  next  to  me  there.     So  everybody's  happy  now. 


Tape  169/10 


LMP  Good.     I'm  sorry  about  that,  BoTd.     Tell  them  that 

it  was  not  intentional  to  leave  it  in  the  suit. 
As  a  matter  of  fact ,  it  might  "be  worth  a  reminder 
when  you  think  we're  unsuiting  -  suiting  to  take 
it  out . 

CC  Well,  if  you  wouldn't  mind  a  reminder,  we  wouldn't 

mind  giving  it  to  you. 

LMP  Fine  with  me. 

10  13  15  27    CC  We're  writing  it  into  the  EVA  Checklist  right  now. 

10  13  22  13     LMP  Houston.     We're  on  the  top  of  3-8. 

CC  Roger.  Understand. 

LMP  With  the  exception  of  the  VERB  U9  maneuver,  the 

other  pages  are  complete. 

CC  Roger.     Yes,  you  read  my  mind  on  that  one. 

LT^P  Say  again? 

CC  You  read  my  mind.    That  was  the  next  thing  I  was 

going  to  ask  you.  I  hadn't  seen  a  VERB  h9 ,  and 
that's  on  that  page  that  isn't  required  at  this 
time . 

LMP  Yes,  right.    We're  ...  by  for  your  Flight  Plan 

time. 

CDR  We'll  -  we'll  maneuver  in  the  Flight  Plan  -  VERB  1+9 . 

CC  Roger.     We  understand. 

LMP  Okay.     Verify  your  SCU,  CLOSED.     You  ready  to  go? 

LMP  Panel  2,  CRYO  PRESS  INDICATOR  -  INDICATOR  is   ...  3. 

Panel  603,  EVA  STATION  0^,  ON.    Verify  EVA  STATION 

0^  gage  reads  approximately  same  as  surge  tank. 

And  surge  tank  reads  85O.     I  guess  that's  approxi- 
mately.    (Laughter. ) 


Tape  169/11 


LMP  Okay.     SCU  OPEN.     Verify  flow  and  purge  umbilical. 

And  then  the  panel  603,  EVA  STATION  0    OFF  -  0 
OFF. 

LMP  Okay.     You  verified  all  that  (laughter).    Waist  - 

remove  valst  helt  stowage  strap  from  lunbilical  and 
stow  in  EVA  hag.  Okay.  That's  done.  Connect  EVA 
umbilical  electrical  and  0^  to  CMP  PGA,  right-hand 

blue  and  lock.     You're  going  to  connect  the  EVA 
umbilical  to  yourself. 

10  13  25  36    LMP  (Cough).     Okay.    Your  electrical  and  0^  are  con- 

nected, right-hand  blue  and  locked. 

LMP  Okay? 

LMP  1  transferred  the  LEB.     I  don't  see  that  in  here 

anymore . 

LMP  There  it  is.     Okay.     Your  next  big  step  here  is  to 

connect  the  waist  belt  and  lock;  buckle  on  the 
left-hand  side. 

10  13  27  22    LMP  ...  down  there  now,  Ron.     Can  I  help  you  with  the 

connections?    You  don't  have  me  going  down  there, 
you  know,  until  - 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  170/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

10  13  29  53    LMP  No. 

CDR  Okay.     Yes,  that's  good.     But  you'd  like  it  pointed 

down,  right?    Yes,  that  makes  sense.    Nov,  is  your 
belt  under  the  scissor  pocket?    Okay.    We  got  our 
coram  carriers  on,  so  that's  no  problem.    You  ought 
to  put  your  comm  carrier  on  now.     And  then  we  do  a 
comm  check. 

10  13  32  32    CMP  Hey,  Houston.     This  is  the  old  command  module  pilot 

back  on  the  loop.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron,  and  biomed's  clear. 

CMP  Hey,  okay. 

10  13  32  i+6    CDR  Okay.    Some  power  at  panel  10,  Ron.     POWER,  AUDIO; 

SUIT  power's  ON;  MODE,  VOX. 

10  13  32  51    CMP  Okay,  we're  in  VOX. 

CDR  VOX  sensitivity  as  required,  approximately  7- 

10  13  32  55     CMP  Well,  it  works  good  at  9 .     I'll  try  it  down  here. 

I  don't  know  whether  -  Well,  I'll  leave  it  all  the 
way  up.     I  '11  leave  it  on  9-     It  works  that  way. 

CDR  PAD  COMM,  OFF. 

10  13  33  08    CMP  PAD  COMM  is  OFF. 

CDR  S-BAND,  T/R. 

10  13  33  10    CMP  S-BAND  is  T/R. 

CDR  AUDIO  CONTROL,  NORMAL. 

10  13  33  13    CMP  AUDIO  CONTROL'S  in  NORMAL. 

CDR  INTERCOM,  T/R. 

10  13  33  IT    CMP  INTERCOM,  T/R. 

CDR  And  VHF  AM,  OFF. 


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10  13  33  20     CMP  VHF  is  OFF. 

CDR  Okay .  ... 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Panel  3,  S-BMD  AUX  ...  verify. 

10  13  33  1+1    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    AUX  TV  is  going  to  TV  now. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    We  see  it. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Not  much  of  a  picture.     It  was  looking 
right  at  the  floor. 

CC  We  don't  see  the  picture,  but  we  saw  the  S-BAUD 

CMP  Not  at  the  camera. 

CC    ...  S-BAND  AUX  TV. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CDR  Yes . 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay.     Yes,  I  read  you  loud  and  clear. 

Jack.     Yes.     Yes,  we're  going  to  have  to  move  this 
TV  a  little  bit,  because  I  can't  get  the  hatch  open. 

LMP  Houston,  I  think  you've  heard  from  the  CMP  and  the 

LMP.  Why  don't  you  try  the  CDR  and  see  if  he  hears 
you? 

CC  Roger.     I  thought  I  already  had  a  contact  with 

Gene.     CDR,  how  do  you  read  Houston? 

10  13  35  38    CDR  Still  reading  you  loud  and  clear,  Houston. 

CC  Roger,  CDR. 

10  13  35  52    CDR  Houston,  America.     That  VERB  k9  maneuver,  you  want 

me  to  be  there  at  56:30;  you  want  me  to  maneuver 
at  56:30? 

CC  Your  choice  on  that,  CDR.     You're  ahead  of  the 

time  line  right  now. 


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CDR  Yes,  we're  -  we're  going  to  press  on  slowly 

through  the  system  prep  -  preps  for  depress ,  and 
just  to  make  sure  we  don't  run  into  any  problems 
there,  and  we'll  probably  -  probably  call  a 
pseudo  hold  before  I  taJce  any  checks  there,  we'll 
take  a  look  at  it . 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    Yes,  let's  press  on. 

CDR  ...  panel  60h,  SUIT  PRESSURE. 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  hear  a  thing.     (Laughter)     I  -  I 

think  I  ought  to  hear  that  one . 

CDR  Sure  . . . 

CMP  I  guess  I  can  pretend  like  I  hear  it . 

CMP  Make  sure  I'm  in  AUDIO /TONE  back  here,  but  I 

don't  think  it  makes  any  difference. 

10  13  37  56    CMP  No.    Don't  hear  a  thing.    Houston,  any  suggestions 

on  the  SUIT  PRESSURE  ALARM,  ON,  and  no  tone? 

CMP  I  didn't  hear  a  Houston.  (Laughter) 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CMP  I  hear  you  guys  ,  though . 

10  13  38  kl    CC  America,  Houston.    Just  for  your  information,  we've 

got  the  TV,  and  we  see  the  floor. 

CMP  Okay,  Robert.     I  Just  turned  on  the  SUIT  PRESSURE 

ALARM,  and  no  tone.    Seems  like  I  should  get  a 
tone  there .    That  right ,  Jack? 

LMP  That's  what  it  says.     Verify  ... 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America.    Did  you  get  that  last? 

CC  Roger.     That's  affirmative.    And  you  should  have 

gotten  the  tone,  and  we'd  like  you  to  try  it  again. 
And  we're  thinking  it  through  right  now. 

CMP  Nothing.  (Laughter) 


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CMP  Well,  let's  see  now. 

CMP  Houston,  you  got  a  circuit  breaker  or  two  we  could 

check  on  that  one? 

CC  Affirmative,  and  we'll  be  right  with  you  with  it. 

CMP  Okay . 

10  13  ^1  58    CC  Ron,  you  might  go  over  on  panel  5  and  check  the 

INSTEUMENT,  SCI  EQUIPMENT,  HATCH  circuit  breaker. 
That  has  to  be  IN  for  the  tone  to  work. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     It's  -  the  HATCH  circuit  breaker 

is  IN,  and  -  Couldn't  be  my  headset  at  all,  could 
it? 

CC  I  wouldn't  think  so.     Not  your  headset  per  se, 

since  you're  reading  us  and  all. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  what  I'm  thinking,  too. 

CDR  Say  -  say.  Bob? 

CMP  Yes . 

CDR  How  would  it  be  if  I  Just  plugged  into  the  coram 

cable  on  that  umbilical  Just  to  check  out  the 
entire  suit  headset  system  here  on  that  tone? 

CMP  You  just  cut  out.    One  here. 

10  13  h3  39    CDR  Okay.    This  is  the  CDR.     I'm  going  off  the  line  for 

a  minute . 

CC  Ron,  you  might  verify  that  the  NONESSENTIAL  BUS 

switch  on  panel  5  is  on  MAIN  A. 

10  13  hh  01    CMP  It's  in  intermittent  in  my  headset.  Okay, 

LMP  That's  verified.    And  Ron  thinks  he  has  an  inter- 

mittent in  his  headset  for  some  reason. 

CC  Ron,  your  transmissions  are  okay,  and  you're  not 

breaking  up  to  us.     It  may  be  in  your  headset. 


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10  13  it5  10    LMP  Okay,  Houston.     Gene's  able  to  hear  the  tone,  and 

Ron's  getting  it  intermittently. 

CC  Roger.    We  copy. 

CMP  How  about  switching  headsets  with  one  of  you  guys , 

huh? 

CC  If  you  decide  to  swap  headsets,  we  prefer  that 

you  swap  with  the  CDR. 

CDR  Any  special  reason? 

CMP  Yes , 

CDR  ...  I  think. 

CMP  Oh,  this? 

CDR  Yes . 

CMP  Oh,  I  see.     I'll  trade  with  Jack,  here. 

CDR  Boh,  this  is  CDR.    You  got  any  answer  to  that  last 

question? 

CC  Roger,  CDR.     It's  almost  a  tossup,  hut  we  would 

like  to  have  the  other  man  out  on  -  with  an 
absolutely  good  headset,  although  we  don't  think 
it's  a  real  problem  one  way  or  another. 

CDR  We'll  get  him  out  with  a  good  headset,  okay? 

CC  It's  a  tossup,  CDR.    Take  your  pick,  I  guess, 

really. 

CDR  Okay.     Standby.    We'll  check  one  out  here. 

10  13  UT  17    CDR  Okay.    We  Just  made  a  swap.    Okay.    Ron  is  wearing 

Jack's  headset,  and  he's  got  a  good  tone  continually 
when  the  switch  is  on,  and  he  loses  the  tone  when 
the  switch  goes  off. 

CC  Gkay.    We've  got  that. 

CDR  So  CMP  and  IMP  made  the  swtich. 


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CC  Roger. 

CMP  You  know,  that  -  No  -  yes,  I  didn't  -  I  didn't  even 

realize  you  could  cut  it  off.    If  I'd  known  that, 
I'd  have  cut  it  off  "before.    Yes.     If  I'd  cut  it 
off  like  that ,  I'd  have  my  curly  locks  shaved  off 
in  front. 

10  13  ^8  28    LMP  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  the  LMP.     Give  me  a  call, 

please. 

CC  LMP,  Houston,     Reading  you  loud  and  clear.    How  me? 

LMP  Okay.    You're  loud  and  clear; 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

10  13  hQ  h6    CMP  We're  going  to  try  the  spacecraft  -  see  if  Jack 

hears  the  spacecraft  tone  or  not.    Just  txirn  the 
power  on  and  off  -  the  caution  and  warning  power. 
I  got  a  tone . 

10  13  1+9  2l+    CMP  Hey,  that's  good  and  loud.    Okay.    ALARM  is  OFF. 

10  13  1+9  31    LMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  going  to  turn  the  TV  off  for 

a  while. 

CC  Roger. 

10  13  1+9  1+7    LMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  start  my  maneuver  now. 

CMP  (Humming) 

CMP  Oh,  351.    The  CABIN  REPRESS  valve.     Okay,  I'll  get 

it. 

10  13  50  5I+    CMP  Okay.     CABIN  REPRESS  valve  is  OFF  on  351.    And  it's 

verified  closed. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right.     ...  checklist. 

10  13  53  19    CDR  Okay,  0^  HEATERS,  three  of  them,  are  in  AUTO. 

CMP  Yes ,  that ' s  a  good  number . 

10  13  53  1+6    CMP  Okay.    Got  it?    Yes,  it's  ON. 


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CMP  Okay.    You  ON  or   

10  13  5U  01    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Delta,  OMNI  Delta. 

10  13  5^+  07    CDR  You  got  it. 

CMP  Yes,  got  it  in  there.     Okay.     PCV  is  verified  on. 

Okay .    Yes . 

CMP  If  ve  decide  to  put  this  on  later ,  then  you  can  put 

it  on  for  me,  "because  it  flops  all  over  the  place 
down  here.    Okay.     Disconnect  red  ECS  0^  hose. 
Okay. 

10  13  51+  58    CMP  ...  the  old  purge  valve,  valve  20 8.     It  came  from 

the  Taurus-Littrow  landing  area  of  the  Moon.  Okay. 
Got  the  purge  valve.    Boy.    Okay,  just  looking  at 
some  ...     (Laughter)     Okay.     It's  low,  is  it? 

CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Charlie. 

CMP  Yes,  you  can't  see  it. 

10  13  56  15    LMP  You're  OMKI  Charlie,  now. 

CC  Thank  you.  Jack. 

CMP  It's  low. 

CMP  What's  the  matter  with  -I'm  going  to  try  the  other 
one.    That  thing,  I  can't  even  move. 

CMP  Oh!     Sticks  or  something.     Let's  see.     Okay.  Let 

me  try  the  other  one. 

10  13  57  17    CMP  Yes,  this  one's  stuck  here,  stuck  in  something. 

Coiildn't  move  that  if  I  had  to.    Okay,  we'll  use 
211  instead. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    He's  going  to  wear  purge  valve  211. 

It's  not  perfectly  matched,  but  I  see  no  problems 
with  it.    It's  a  lot  freer. 

CC  Roger,  America.    And  we  anticipate  no  problems  with 

using  211. 

CDR  Okay.    Fine,  Bob. 


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CMP  Okay.    We  want  it  in  low,  you  say.  Jack  -  Jack? 

10  13  58  06    CMP  ...  that's  low.  Okay. 

10  13  58  16    CMP  Okay.     302,  SUIT  FLOW  is  OFF. 

CMP  Might  just  as  well.    I  -  I  turned  mine  off,  see. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Stay  up  there  in  the  tionnel,  that  way. 

CMP  Yes.     This  other  way  -  you  are  in  the  way  there. 

Let's  go  the  other  way. 

CMP  See,  like  so. 

10  13  59  36    CMP  Okay.    CMPs  hoses  are  routed  up  across  the  tunnel, 

out  of  the  way  -  we  hope.    Ah-ha!    Finally  getting 
some  flow.    Man,  I  feel  a  lot  better.    Okay,  cahin 
pressiire's  coming  up,  and  -  Okay.     Jack,  I  guess 
you  could  really  go  the  LEB  ...  to  help  me  now. 
Yes  -  yes ,  because  I  can  - 

10  ih  00  50    CMP  Okay.     I've  got  -  yes,  I've  got  the  flow  coming 

in  here,  so  ...  up  around  5.7. 

CMP  Okay,  just  a  second, 

10  ih  01  29     CMP  Yes,  I  -  I  just  -  Okay,  I  see.     Yes,  it's  below  2.5. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Man,  you  guys  got  that  thing  dirty. 

CMP  Here ,  let  me  get  the  hose  out  of  here  first . 

CMP  Oop! 

CMP  (Laughter)    Well,  put  it  on  there,  I  guess.  Yes. 

Close  up  a  hole  there  next  to  the  ...    Okay,  let's 
see,  I  guess  we  can  button  that  back  up. 

10  ih  02  56    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    We're  at  attitude.     I'm  going  to 

configure  the  DAP. 

CC  Roger,  America.    We  copy  attitude. 


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CMP  Let's  see.    Am  I  getting  all  tangled  up  in  the  hose, 

I  don't  think  so.     Am  I? 

CC  Okay,  America.     We're  ready  for  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

PITCH,  1+3;  YAW  of  262. 

10  lit  03  39    CMP  Okay.    Just  a  minute.    MANUAL  and  WIDE.  PITCH 

of  1+3;  YAW,  262.    HIGH  GAIN.     Okay.    They  want 
AUTO  now? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  Ron. 

CMP  It  still  doesn't  go  full  scale,  but  - 

CMP  That  good  enough? 

CC  Ron,  we  need  it  full  scale. 

CMP  Let  me  try  it  again.     Okay?     I'll  go  to  MANUAL 

and  WIDE. 

CC  RE  -  REACQ  and  WIDE,  and  then  step  it  down. 

CMP  Okay . 

10  ik  Ok  1+8    CMP  Ah-ha!    That  works.    Okay.    You're  REACQ  and 

NARROW  now. 

CMP  Okay.    There,  you  want  to  -  - 

CC  America,  we  see  your  cabin  at  5'k,  and  we'll  keep 

an  eye  on  it . 

CMP  Okay.     Give  us  a  little  call  there  ahead  of  time, 

and  I'll  crack  the  ...     Right  now  -  - 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  Jack.     You're  sq^uared  away. 

10  1I+  05  H9    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I've  got  the  proper  jets  configured, 

and  A/C  ROLL,  PITCH,  and  YAW,  MAIN  B,  are  OPEN. 

CMP  What? 


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CC  Roger.    And  we  would  like  to  go  back  to  AUTO  on 

the  HIGH  GAIN  to  see  if  it  holds  your  signal  strength 
for  us . 

10  ik  06  06     CMP  Okay.     You  got  AUTO. 

10  ih  06  25    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     I'll  verify  that  all  the  SCS  switches 

are  set  as  per  3-9 • 

CC  Roger,  America.     Thank  you. 

10  ih  07  12    CC  And,  America.     Your  cabin  press  is  at  5.6,  and 

you  can  crack  the  side  hatch  valve,  if  you  like. 

CMP  Okay.     Get  the  old  cabin  pressure  down  here  a 

little  ways.     That's  about  5)  isn't  it? 

CMP  Okay.     . . .  there. 

CC  Ron,  we're  seeing  h .9  on  your  pressure.     You  can 

stop  venting  there . 

10  ik  08  39    CMP  Okay,  we're  stopped. 

CDR  Okay,  it's  closed. 

CMP  Okay . 

CMP  Here,  Jack.    Why  don't  you  stick  that  up  there  in 

that?  Yes. 

CMP  Up  left. 

CMP  Okay.     Yes,  that's  right  side  up.     Not,  yet,  I 

haven't  got  them  all  on  there. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  Houston;  this  is  America. 

CC  Gene,  you  probably  realize  that  the  audio  tone  is 

a  separate  wire  all  the  way  to  the  earpliig ,  and 
that ' s  -  and  that ' s  why  there ' s  no  problem  - 
the  LMP  should  have  no  problem. 

CDR  That's  affirm.    We  understand. 


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CMP  Yes,  we  understand  that.     Okay,  Gene.     The  "bottom 

ones  look  like  letters  up,  right?  Yes,  okay  - 
That  works,  okay.  Wow  -  we  have  -  Oh,  there's 
the  other  one.  (Laughter)  Thought  I  only  had 
three  straps.  Okay. 

10  ih  11  06    CMP  Okay.     I  guess  we're  ready  to  strap  this  thing  on, 

huh?    No,  I've  get  to  have  that  first. 

CMP  Okay.    There's  the  old  -  0  -  OPS  adapter  bracket. 

It's  hooked  on.     Yes,  it  floats  around  there  a  lot 
better  than  it  did  in  the  simulator.    Okay,  Jack. 
Can  you  kind  of  steady  it  there,  and  we'll  -  Some 
more?    Wait  a  minute.     Give  me  the  lower  one  first. 
No,  up  on  top,  the  other  way.    And  then  slip  -  Okay 
And  an  upper  one.    Okay,  need  a  left  upper.  There' 
a  left  upper. 

CMP  Okay,  the  next  one's  coming  around  this  way. 

CMP  And  then,  the  left  arm's  back  over  here.  Ah-ha! 

There's  the  old  OPS  hose.      Okay,  that's  installed 
and  it's  locked. 

10  ih  12  i+T    CMP  Verify  locked.  Okay. 

CDR  Okay,  what  do  you  need.  Jack?  Okay. 

CMP  Uh-oh.     (Laughter)     Should  have  done  that  earlier. 

It's  under  your  ...  now.     Here  it  is.  Okay. 
Oh,  okay.  (Humming) 

10  ih  ih  36    LMP  Okay,  Houston i  America.     The  LMP  is  donning  his 

LEVA  now. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

CMP  Yes,  it  was  -  that  -  The  back  is  the  part  I  can't 

reach  right  now.     Yes,  okay. 

CC  America,  the  cabin  is  at  5-6,  if  you  want  to  vent 

a  little  bit. 

LMP  Okay,  I'll  get  it. 

10  ih  15  23    CMP  Okay,  locked.     I'll  get  the  back  of  it.     Can  you 

lock  -  verify  your  own  alignment? 


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CDR  Yes ,  I  can  see  it . 

CMP  Which  one  is  locked?    Let  me  twist  it  just  a  little 

bit. 

CDR  Okay,  there  we  go. 

CMP  Engage  -  locked.    Okay,  it's  on  that  way.  Yes. 

Yes.    Ho,  I  ...  -  You're  going  to  have  to  twist  or 
something.    Okay,  that's  the  back. 

CMP  One  is  in  there,  and  then  the  other  one  was  stuck 

in  that  bungee  there. 

CDR  There's  one,  up  in  the  tunnel. 

CDR  Houston,  how  does  the  cabin  look  to  you? 

10  ih  IT  32    CMP  Take  a  look.     It's  about  5-1/2  now.  Gene. 

CDR  Okay . 

10  ih  IT  38    CC  Roger,  Gene.    It's  at  5-3.    We're  monitoring  very 

closely  if  you  -  if  it  helps  you  any. 

CDR  Okay,  very  fine.    I'm  coming  down  very,  very  slowly 

on  it. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Gene,  can  you  look  on  your  left  side,  over  there? 

That's  it.    Just  a  second.  Gene;  hold  it  there. 


CMP  Pull  valve. 

CDR  Okay,  it  moving. 

CMP  Ok^,  let's  see.    You're  right.     Okay.     It's  off. 

Just  tell  me  when.    You  want  it  on  yet? 


CMP  Okay,  that's  that  one?    Lock.    There's  your  lock  on 

that  blue  one.     Locked?     Okay.     You  closed?  Okay, 
that's  locked.    That's  locked.    Locked.  Okay. 
Having  trouble  getting  them  on  there.  Jack,  with 
the  -  shouldn't  be  too  much  pressure  there.  Let 
me  -  let  me  push  it  on  you. 


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CMP  Twist?     Doesn't  look  like  it's  on.     Okay.     Is  she 

locked?    Let  me  see.    Okay,  let's  see  your  - 
they're  hooked  on  the  right. 

10  li+  20  ho    CMP  Okay.    That's  0^  -  that's  a  lock  lock.     Okay,  blue 

one  is  a  lock  lock.     Okay,  that  chin  is  now  locked 
in.    That  ...  is  locked  in.    Okay,  and  your  helmet, 
I  checked  that  once.    Let's  try  it  again;  let's  see. 
Moves  that  way,  doesn't  it?    Okay,  it's  locked. 
Here,  let  me  -  wrong  way  (laughter).  Okay. 

10  ih  21  IT    CDR  Okay,  Houston;  this  is  America.    The  LMP  and  the 

CDR  both  got  their  helmets  and  gloves  on ,  and  all 
connections  have  been  checked. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

CMP  It's  open. 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  It's  locked. 

10  ih  21  kh    CC  America,  we  are  copying  the  cabin  at  k.B.    You  can 

stop  the  venting  at  this  time. 

10  l!+  21  53    CMP  Okay,  it's  -  Gene's  closing  the  valve  now. 

CDR  Okay,  it's  closed.     And  how  are  you  reading  CDR 

on  VOX? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear  on  VOX. 

CDR  Okay,  fine. 

CMP  Okay,  now  she's  low. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP            (Laughter)     Yes.     Got  to  get  the  dust  cover  on 
the  ,  okay? 

CDR  Okay,  we're  going  to  do  an  integrity  check.  Jack. 

10  li;  22  25    CDR  And,  Houston,  the  CMPs  connections  are  all  verified 

locked. 


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CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  going  to  integrity  check. 

CMP  Let  me  know  when  you  get  up  there  because  I've  got 

to  turn  my  0^  off.  Well,  I  guess  I  can  see  it  from 
here , 

10  ih  22  h5    CDR  Okay.    SUIT  CIRCUIT  RETURN  VALVE  is  CLOSED. 

10  ik  22  55    CDR  Okay,  it's  CLOSED.    DIRECT  0^  is  CLOSED.  What's 

suit  pressure  indicating  over  there,  Ron,  about 
U.T  to  5-3? 

10  ik  23  08    CMP  Yes,  it's  about  5-0. 

CDR  And  0^  FLOW  is  low,  isn't  it?  Okay. 

10  lU  23  13    CMP  FLOW  is  down,  yes. 

CDR  I'll  just  take  it  off  of  here,  huh? 

CMP  Yes,  just  right  off  there. 

10  lit  23  22    CDR  Okay,  SUIT  CIRCUIT  RETURN  VALVE  is  CLOSED.  SUIT 

FLOW  valve  -  You  have  flow.  Jack?     Suit  pressure 
is  okay,  and  0^  flow  is  less  than  O.U.    Suit  test. 

Okay;  I'm  taking  us  up. 
CMP  Okay. 

10  lU  23  lt3    CDR  Okay.     We're  in  PRESSURE,  and  DIRECT  0^  is  OPENED. 

Let  me  cycle  the  suit  circuit  return  valve. 

10  lit  23  56     CDR  Okay,  it's  OPEN,  and  It's  CLOSED. 

CMP  Okay.    That's  0^  flow. 

CDR  Okay.    At  It  psi  differential,  I'll  close  the 

direct  O^. 

CMP  Okay,  I'll  turn  my  flow  off  here  a  little  bit  to 

keep  the  cabin  from  going  up  so  far. 

LMP  Okay . 


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CMP  If  it  starts  to  get  hot,  I'll  turn  it  "back  on  again. 

LMP  Okay . 

10  1^+  2U  25     CDR  Okay.     DIRECT  0^  is  CLOSED. 

CMP  Should  take  you  up  to  about  k.^,  I  think. 

CDR  Okay,  check  suit  pressure.     What  are  you  reading 
over  there,  Ron?    Ron,  what  are  you  reading  up  on 
the  -  the  suit  -  circuit? 

10  ik  2k  kl    CMP  Oh,  I  don't  know.     About  -  I  don't  know,  8.5  or  9- 

CDR  Okay.    That's  GO. 

CC  Okay.    We're  reading  9-0  on  the  suit  pressure. 

10  ik  2k  k9    CDR  Okay.     ...  at  U.25,  increasing  slowly. 

CDR  Okay,  very  good.     0^  flow,  Ron? 

10  ik  2k  57    CMP  Well,  it's  still  off.    Let's  give  it  a  chance  to  -  - 

CDR  Less  than  0.8?     Let's  wait  for  it  here. 

CMP  Yes.     See,  you've  got  to  go  up  -  you're  sitting  -  - 

10  ik  25  02    CDR  Yes.     We're  going  through  about  h.35,  now. 

CMP  Yes.     Goes  up  to  about  k .h  or  k.^. 

CDR  Let  me  know  when  it  comes  down  up  there ,  will  you? 

10  lU  25  2h     CMP  Okay.     It's  starting  to  come  down  now. 

CDR  Let  me  know  when  it  gets  stable. 

10  li;  25  1+2    CMP  Okay.     It's  0.6  right  now,  but  - 

CDR  Still  coming  down? 

CMP  Still  coming  down  a  little  bit. 

CDR  Okay . 

10  ik  25  52    CMP  0.55. 


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10  Ik  25  57    CMP  It's  0.5. 

10  Ik  26  08    CMP  Well,  it  looks  like  it's  going  to  stabilize  right 

there  at  just  a  little  less  than  0.5- 

10  Ik  26  12    CDR  Okay.    Let's  see  if  it  stays  stable  for  about 

30  seconds. 

CMP  Okay. 

LMP  Hey,  Geno. 

CDR  Yes? 

LMP 

CDR  Not  to  me.     Oh,  to  you.     Okay.  Here. 

10  ih  26  36    CDR  Still  stable,  Ron? 

10  ih  25  37    CMP  It's  coming  down. 

LMP  You  guys  got  pretty  good  suits . 

CDR  Yes.     They  are  good,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Put  dust  in  them,  and  it  makes  them 

good.     Now  it's  down  around  0.3. 


10 

Ih 

26 

51 

CDR 

Houston,  how  does  the  suit  circuit  look  to  you? 

10 

ih 

26 

55 

CC 

It's  looking  real  good.  Gene. 

10 

Ik 

27 

00 

CDR 

If  you'rehappy,  I'll  go  to  DEPRESS. 

10 

Ik 

27 

Ok 

CC 

Roger.     We're  happy  with  it. 

CDR  Okay.     Coming  down  slow,  Jack. 

LMP 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  Okay.     We're  coming  down. 

CMP  Is  that  okay?     Or  that  okay?     Okay.     But  you  can't 

do  that.     It's  going  to  have  to  be  (laughter)  - 
and  - 


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CDR  Okay.    Let's  see. 

CMP  Okay.    You.  guys  are  coming  down;  I  want  to  give 

myself  a  little  air  here. 

CMP  Wish  I  had  some  of  that  cold  you  were  talking 

ahout  this  morning.  Gene. 

CDR  Yes.     It's  plenty  cool  in  here. 

CDR  Okay.     We'll  pick  it  up  over  here. 

10  ik  28  27    CDR  Okay,  Boh,  I'll  pick  it  up  on  page  3-13  as  soon  as 

we  come  down  here  a  little  hit  more.     I'm  in  SUIT 
TEST  valve  DEPRESS. 

10  ik  28  39    CC  Roger. 

CMP  What's  ray  next  thing  here?     Suit  and  helmet  donning, 

isn't  it? 

CDR  Yes.    We'll  get  your  helmet  and  gloves  on,  Ron. 

10  ih  29  11    CMP  Okay.     I  can  go  ahead  and  start  doing  that  now. 

CDR  Yes,  you  sure  can. 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  know  if  Jack  will  be  ahle  to  get  my 

helmet.     I'm  going  to  need  my  gloves.     Well,  no 
hurry  yet.     I  need  to  get  the  helmet  on  first. 

10  ik  29  29    CC  America,  Houston.    You  asked  for  a  reminder  -  - 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  you  might  want  to  get  the  waste  management 

compartment  vent  prior  to  glove  donning.    That  is 
your  decision  -  your  choice  on  that. 

CMP  Oh,  okay. 

CDR  Ron,  can  you  see  our  suit-circuit  pressure  up  there? 

10  lit  30  03    CMP  Yes.    It's  about  7- 

CDR  Okay. 


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10  Ih  30  06    CMP  Cabin's  about  5  - 

CDR  Okay.    We're  6  or  so? 

CMP  Oh.    My  clean  gloves  all  dirty? 

CMP  Look  at  all  the  water's  coming  out  of  that  thing. 

10  lit  30  38    CDR  Okay,  Jack.    You  vant  to  take  us  down  the  rest  of 

the  way? 

10  ih  30  k6    cm  Okay,  Houston,  the  SUIT  PRESS  valve  -  SUIT  TEST 

valve  is  OFF,  and  I  can  verify  we  are  in  BOTH  on 
DEMAND  REGs. 

CMP  I  don't  know  which  is  the  best  way  to  do  this  here. 

10  ih  30  58    CC  Roger,  America. 

CDR  Yes ,  that ' s  that  valve  you  just  opened . 

CMP  Yes.     I  just  opened  the  waste  stowage  vent  valve 

here . 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.    You've  got  the  0    ON  yet,  I  guess. 

Huh? 

CMP  Yes.     It's  still  ON. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Well,  let's  see   

CDR  I'll  let  Jack  help  you  with  that. 

CMP  -  -  ...  OPS  is  in  the  way  in  the  back  here.  See 

if  I  can  squish  down  here. 

CDR  Okay.     I'll  hold  your  OPS  out  of  the  way. 

CMP  Okay,  wait  a  minute.     I  can't  see  where  the  -  - 

CDR  Okay,  you're  in  the  back. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute.    Wait  a  minute.     I  think  something's 

stuck  in  the  -  oh,  I  don't  have  a  hose.  Okay. 
( Laughter) 


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CMP  There's  a  cable  here.    The  cahle  to  the  coinin 

carrier. 

10  ik  31  58    CC  America,  you're  at  5-7   

CMP  Comm  carrier  coming  up. 

CC  -  -  on  your-  cabin.    You  want  to  go  ahead  and  vent 

a  little  bit? 

CDR  Okay.    That's  good.    Half  a  second  here. 

CMP  Okay? 

CDR  Well,  you're  -  There  you  go. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute.    Something's  still  in  there.  What 

in  the  world's  in  there?    Everytime  I  look  down, 
your  comm  carrier  comes  in  - 

CDR  You're  just  not  getting  it  aligned  too  well. 

CMP  Let's  see  if  on  the  sides  over  there  or  something. 

CDR  No.    You're  clear. 

CMP  Yes,  that  buckle.     I  hadn't  thought  of  it.  That's 

the  buckle  on  the  OPS.    How.    That's  something  that 
happened  -  doesn't  happen  in  there  -  Wait  a  minute. 
That's  the  engagement  right  there.     Okay.  Yes. 
Yes.     I  think  that's  it,  isn't  it? 

CDR  Did  it  lock?     Doublecheck  it  locked,  and  double- 

check  it  in  the  engage  mark. 

CMP  Okay,  that's  the  lock  mark,  isn't  it?    Yes.  Okay. 

Yes.     So  if  I  can  -  Think  you  know  how  to  get  it, 
huh? 

CDR  I  got  to  pull  the  flap  up  on  this  side.  Jack. 

You'll  have  to  get  it  on  the  other. 

CMP  Yes,  something's  not  right  the  way  I  -  There. 

Okay,  that  did  it. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.     You  got  -  why  don't  you  do  a  couple  of 

other  things  before  you  go  any  further  now. 


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CMP  Okay. 

10  ih  33  ^9    CDR  Okay,  give  me  another  -  piill  the  pin  on  the  purge 

valve  and  give  it  to  me.    And  activate  it  in  LOW, 

CDR  Okay,  going  activated? 

CMP  Okay.     It's  activated  into  LOW. 

CDR  Okay.  DIVERTER  valves  -  verify  they're  vertical. 

CMP  Okay.    Wait  a  minute.     That  one  is  vertical.  Okay, 

that  one  is  vertical  -  - 

CDR  Okay.    Next  step  is  not  applicable  -  - 

CMP  Wait  a  minute.    Hold  it. 

CDR  Kow,  you  can  adjust  your  PGA  tiedown.    And  set  your 

vrist  rings  to  the  ENGAGE  position. 

CMP  Okay,  that  one's  engaged.    That  one's  engaged. 

How's  the  noise  down  there,  Houston? 

CC  Not  too  bad,  Ron. 

CC  And  the  cabin  is  at  U.85.    Terminate  your  vent. 

CDR  Thank  you.  Bob. 

CDR  And  Houston,  this  is  CDR.     I'm  on  the  cue  card  now. 

CDR  Jack,  could  you  get  his  -  his  flap  on  the  other 

side? 

LMP  Yes ,  I  got  -  Okay . 

CDR  Sorry,  I  didn't  leave  you  - 

CMP  Oh,  let's  see. 

CDR  I  got  it  on  this  side. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Well,  it'll  do  that,  too,  that's  -  let's  push  it 

down  behind  his  OPS  here  axid  that'll  -  that's 
about  the  best  you  can  do  on  that. 


Tape  170/21 


CMP  That  cover  on  that   

CDR  Yes.    If  it's  too  loose,  we  can  pull  the  snap  and 
tighten  her  up. 

CDR  That ' s  all  right .    Looks  good .     ...     Okay ,  Ron , 
you  can  - 

CMP  What? 

10  ih  36  30    CDR  A  rock.    Houston,  ve  just  found  a  small  sample  of 

the  Moon  floating  around  in  the  cahin. 

CMP  Hold  it  there,  -will  you?    We  can't  go  on  to  it  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Go  ahead  ...  systems. 

CDR  Let  me  look  at  that  "before  you  cover  it . 

CMP  Okay.     Okay,  that's  locked. 

CDR  That's  locked. 

CMP  Okay.  Let's   

CDR  Your  right  glove  is  locked. 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  let  you  help  me  with  the  - 

CDR  Let  go  -  put  your  other  hand  -  - 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Put  the  strap  on  and   

CDR  -  -  the  ring  out. 

CMP  Put  it  all  -  up  here,  yes.     On  the  other  side  of 
the  valve. 

CDR  Okay. 

CDR  Take  the  top  and  pull  it  down. 

10  Ih  37  ^1    CDR  Tight  son  of  a  gun. 

CMP  That's  over.     Okay.     I  don't  want  that. 


Tape  170/22 


CDE  You  just  ...  keep  pulling  there. 

CMP  Yes,  but  it  won't  go  over  that  -  it  won't  go  over 
that  other  valve.  Gene.    There's  no  - 

CDR  Stick  it  lander  the  gauntlet . 

CDR  There  you  go. 

CMP  There  we  go. 

CDR  It's  over  the  valve. 

CMP  Over  the  valve,  okay? 

CDR  Okay,  your  right  glove  is  lock  lock.     Let's  get 
your  left  one  on. 

10  ih  38  2h    CMP  Okay,  she's  engaged. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Wait  a  minute.     I've  got  to  turn  the  pressure  off, 
"babe . 

CDR  Okay . 

CDR  (Laughter)     Okay,  on  603,  EVA  0^,  OFF. 

CMP  Okay.    Wait  a  minute.     I  can't  even  reach  it. 

CMP  Okay,  EVA  0^  is  OFF. 

CDR  Okay.     Okay,  get  your  other  glove.    Turn  it  some 
more.    Turn  it  the  other  way.    Okay  now. 

CMP  She's  locked?    Let's  push  her  on  up.  Okay? 

CDR  Okay,  you  are  locked. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute,  I'll  get  it.     ...  get  some  air. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Okay,  fully  - 


Tape  170/23 


CDR  On  as  required  to  pressurize. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  coming  up. 

CDR  Now,  let's  get  that  gauntlet. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  the  CMP  is  coming  up. 

CMP  Okay,  looks  like  about  3 A  -  3.5- 

CDR  You  pressurized  already? 

CMP  There  we  go. 

CDR  Okay,  if  you  can  reach  the  tone,  turn  the  tone  on, 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  And  verify  and  turn  it  off. 

CMP  Aaaaah,  don't  know  how  I  can  reach  the  tone. 

10  lU  ho  U6    CDR  Want  me  to  help  you?    Wait  a  minute ,  see  . . .   

CMP  (Laughter)     No  wonder  I  can't  move.     Okay,  wait  a 

minute .     Hook  it  in  my  thing . 

CDR  Okay.     You  want  it  locked  in  there? 

CMP  No,  that's  all  right. 

CDR  Okay.     You  got  to  get  that.     Yes,  that's  - 

CMP  Hmram,  I  don't  have  a  tone. 

CDR  Did  you  turn  it  on? 

CMP  Wow  it's  off.     Stupid  thing. 

CDR  You  got  it?    You  said  you  did  not  have  a  tone,  is 

that  correct? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right. 

CDR  Houston,  do  you  hear  that? 


Tape  llO/Zh 


CC  Understand.    The  CMP  does  not  have  the  tone,  again? 

CMP  Oh,  son  of  a  huck. 

CDR  Pretty  good  , . . 

10  1^  111  55    CMP  Okay,  I'm  reading  3-9,  should  have  low  suit  flow 

because  I  got  the  purge  valve. 


CDR 


CMP 
CDR 
CMP 

CDR 

CMP 
CDR 
CDR 
CMP 
CDR 


CC 


CMP 


Okay,  You  got  your  EVA  -  on  603,  EVA  0^  is  ON, 
Is  it  -  is  it  still  on,  or  have  you  got  it  off? 


CDR  602  0^? 


Yes,  it's  ON;  0^  flow  is  ON. 

Okay,  and  you're  reading  3.T  to  h.O. 

Yes.    Mayhe  it's  Just  not  -  msyhe  I'm  still  getting 
too  much  flow.     That  purge  valve  is  open,  isn't  it 
in  LOW? 

PURGE  valve  is  open  to  LOW.     Did  you  open  it?  Let 
me  see . 

I  think  I  did.     Yes,  it  was  open. 
Yes.     You're  open. 
Okay,  turn  the  tone  off. 

Okay,  I  turned  the  tone  off.     Okay,  it's  off. 

Okay,  how's  your  master  volume?  You  happy  with  it? 
Or  should  I  jack  it  up  some  more? 

CMP  Houston,  say  something. 


Roger,  Ron.  We  copy  you.  You  might  try  and  ad- 
just your  VOX,  thumbwheel  down  a  little  bit.  It 
might  help  us  a  bit,  knock  out  some  of  the  back- 
ground noise. 

(Laughter)  Okay.  Jack,  you  want  to  try  to  knock 
the  VOX  down  a  little  bit?  Okay,  1,  2,  3,  1+  5  _ 
5,  ^,  3,  2,  1. 


Tape  lTO/25 


CC  Hey,  you  don't  sound  bad  at  all,  Ron. 

CMP  Houston,  are  you  reading  me? 

CC  We're  reading  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron.     No  problem. 

CMP  Does  that  -  Okay.     Did  that  knock  some  of  the  noise 

down? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Is  that  -  is  that  okay?    Okay?    You're  going  to 

get  a  little  bit  of  noise,  I  think. 

CC  Oh,  that's  affirmative.    We  realize  that. 

10  ih  hk  00     CDR  Okay,  Houston   

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    Unless  we  hear  otherwise,  without 

the  tone  at  that  point,  we  are  pressing  on. 

CDR  Okay,  Jack.     On  351,  get  the  Er4ERGENCY  CABIN  PRES- 

SURE EEGs  OFF. 

CC  America,  that's  affirmative.     And  we'd  like  to  vent 

the  cabin.    You're  at  5-7  again. 

CDR  Okay. 

CDR  Okay.     It  seemed  like  you  -  it's  on  351. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  I'm  351,  E^.'[ERGENCY  CABIN  PRESSURE'S 

OFF. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.     It  says  -  let  me  read  this  to  you. 

"CMP  monitor  cuff  gage"  -  It's  "PURGE  VALVE,  HIGH, 
verify  tone  on  at  3.1  to  3.^,  then  PURGE  VALVE, 
CLOSED  and  verify  tone  off."     Go  ahead  and  turn 
the  switch  on. 

CMP  All  right. 


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CDR  You  probably  didn't  get  a  tone  there  because  you 

were  already  on  up  to  pressure  by  the  time  you  got 
that  switch  on.  I  think  that's  why  you  didn't  get 
a  tone . 

CMP  Yes . 

CDR  So  you  should  get  one  here .     So  turn  the  tone  - 

you  got  the  tone  power  on? 

CMP  No,  not  yet.     I  can't  get  down  there.    Not  until  I 

get  Jack  out  of  the  way. 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  Okay,  get  down  there  and  turn  the  tone  power  on, 

and  I  think  you'll  get  a  tone  this  time  around. 

CMP  Okay.  There. 

CDR  Okay,  tone  power's  on.     What  I  want  you  to  do  is 

go  PUR  -  go  HIGH  on  the  PURGE  VALVE,  and  I'll  get 
that   . .  .  -  - 

CMP  I'm  going  to  let  you  -I'm  going  to  let  you  do 

that ,  okay? 

CDR  Okay.     Now,  it's  HIGH   

CMP  Okay,  coming  on. 

CDR  -  -  3.1  to  3.^.     You  ought  to  get  a  tone. 

CMP  Now,  I  got  the  tone  at  3.2. 

CDR  Okay,  turn  it  back  on. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute, 

CDR  PURGE  VALVE  is  CLOSED. 

CMP  Okay.     Back  up  to  h. 

CDR  Tone  off? 

CMP  Tone's  off. 


Tape  170/27 


CDR  Okay,  PURGE  VALVE  is  locked,  and  it's  HIGH. 

CMP  Locked  and  HIGH,  okay. 

CDR  Okay.    That's  where  you  want  it,  huh? 

CMP  Right . 

CDR  Why  don't  you  come  up  here,  and  I'll  install  a  pin 

for  you. 

CMP  Yes,  I'll  come  up  there.     (Laughter)     I'm  stuck. 

Oh,  I  can  -  I  can  get  it.     Can  you  do  it? 

CDR  Yes,  I  can  get  it.     Okay.  Okay. 

CMP  Okay? 

CDR  Now,  it's  locked,  the  pin  is  in,  and  you  are  in 

HIGH.     Okay,  that's  verified. 

ll+  k6  56    CMP  Okay? 

CDR  Okay.    Verify  flow  and  cuff  gage  reads  3-7  to  k.O. 

Ron? 

CMP  Okay.     I  got  3-9  on  the  cuff  gage. 

CDR  Okay,  we're  going  to  do  an  integrity  check  on  you. 

On  603,  EVA  and  STATION  0^ ,  OFF. 

CMP  Okay.     Can  you  reach  that  gage,  or  do  you  want  me 

to  do  it?    Oh,  I  can  get  it. 

CDR           I  can  get  it  if  I  turn  around  here.     I'll  get  it. 
CMP  If  I  can   

CDR  Let  me  undo  this  before  I  pressurize.     I'll  strap 

them  in  again, 

CMP  How  you  guys  -  Always  got  it  before,  but  I  must  be 

laying  in  a  different  way  here. 

CDR  Did  I  get  it  off? 

CMP  Okay,  I've  got  the  tone. 


Tape  170/28 


CDR  Okay,  now.     Okay,  monitor  cuff  ga^e;  verify  PCV 

closes.    Monitor  pressiire  decay  for  1  minute; 
verify  less  thaji  0.8. 

CMP  Okay,  closed,  and  we're  at  3.6l. 

CDR  Okay,  when  did  you  start  your  time? 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  Can  you  guys  hear  that  tone? 

CDR  Yes,  I  can  hear  it  occasionally. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Oh,  you  can  hear  it  on  the  grovmd,  huh? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP  Very  good. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.    How  is  -  how  is  your  suit  pressure? 

CMP  ...  pressure  is  stuck  at  3.6. 

CDR  That's  a  good  place  for  it  to  be.    You  have  about 
30  more  seconds,  don't  you? 

CMP  About  15  more. 

CDR  Okay.     Okay,  and  you  did  get  the  tone  on  for  low 

flow? 

CMP  Yes. 

CDR  Let  me  know  when  you're  satisfied  with  the  time. 

CMP  Okay,  turn  it  back  on. 

CDR  Okay.     0^  ***  is  ON. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  It's  in. 

CMP  Let  me  get  it.    Make  sure  it's  all  the  way  up. 
it  all  the  way  up? 


Tape  170/29 


CDR  Yes,  I  think  it  is. 

CMP  Yes,  I  can  see  it  increasing. 

CDR  Here ,  let  me  get  in  there  and  push  it .    Put  your 

guard  dovn. 

CMP  See  it  in  there? 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  Okay? 

CDR  Okay,  you  happy? 

CMP  Yes,  3.7  to  U.O.  Stable? 

10  ih  kg  k2    CDR  Stable,  3-9. 

CDR  No  tone? 

CMP  No  tone. 

CDR  EVA  pressure  gage,  100  to  500  psi. 

10  ih  U9  U8    CMP  Yes.    For  some  reason,  the  battery  is  burned  out 

in  the  flashlight,  but  -  Let  me  see,  it's  about  - 
I  woxild  say  UOO ,  I  think.    Yes,  let's  see,  its 
division  marks  on  that  gage  are  3 ,  6 ,  and  900 . 
And  it's  above  the  3. 

10  ih  50  11    CDR  Okay,  it's  good.     I  can  see  that. 

CMP  Yes,  it's  good.     It's  about  350. 

CDR  Okay,  verify  surge  tank  pressure.    Houston,  can 

you  give  us  a  hack  on  the  surge  tank  as  a  GO? 

CC  Stand  by  on  that. 

CC  Roger.     Looking  good. 

CDR  Okay,  very  good.     We're  ready  to  press  on  with  the 

cabin  depress,  Ron.     GN^  valve  handle,  pulled. 

CMP  Okay . 


Tape  170/30 


CDR  Okay.    We'll  pick  that  up  when  he  starts  to  move. 

Okay,  gage,  min  and  leave  in  the  vent  position. 
Pull  the  handle. 

10  ih  50  57    CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Leave  in  vent .    Leave  in  vent . 

10  ih  51  00    CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Okay.    Verify  helmet  and  gloves  locked. 

10  ih  51  07    CMP  Okay.     ...  smooth.    Here,  I  need  the  -  get  that 

down . 

CDR  Okay. 

10  ih  51  10    CMP  ...  there.    Okay,  lock  locked. 

CDR  Hey,  babe;  you  looked  good  when  you  went  by  me. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CDR  Just  stay  that  way. 

CMP  We'll  stay  that  way. 

CDR  Okay.     Houston,  we're  standing  by  for  yoiir  GO. 

10  lit  51  29    CC  You  are  GO. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.    Hear  the  note. 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  EVA  warning  tone  may  come  on  momentarily  during 
the  . . .  depress . 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  Jack,  are  you  ready? 

CDR  Okay,  babe.    When  you  get  out  there,  just  take  it 

nice  and  slow  and  easy.     You  got  all  day  long. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  right.     It's  not  like  the  zero-g 

airplane , 


Tape  170/31 


CDR  Feel  yourself  aroimd,  and  it's  nice  and  easy  to 

get  around.    Just  don't  let  your  body  start  moving 
too  fast  down  there.     Okay.     Side  hatch  is  coming 
open  slowly. 

CMP  There ' s  a  valve  . . . 

CDR  Valve?     I  can't  see  the  gage,  but  I  know  we're 

coming  down . 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Houston,  can  you  give  me  a  hack  at  approaching  3.25? 

CC  That's  affirmative.    We  will. 

CDR  Okay. 

10  Ih  52  52    CDR  Okay.     That's  0^  FLOW  HIGH,  as  expected. 

CMP  Okay.     And  that's  -  oh,  about  3-95. 

CDR  Okay . 

10  ih  53  1^+    CDR  Coming  down  a  little  faster,  Houston. 

CC  Roger.     We're  watching. 

CDR  Okay . 

CDR  And,  Ron   

10  Ih  53  h6    CC  Okay.    You're  3.^+  right  now  -  3.U,  Gene. 

CDR  -  -  when  you  get  to  the  SIM  bay ,  go  around  - 

CDR  Okay.  Okay  

10  ih  53  53    CC  3.3,  closing. 

CDR  -  -  ...  get  your  feet  in  the  -  Oh,  okay.     Yes,  will 

do.     Get  your  feet  in  the  golden  shoes,  and  then 
you  can  do  anything.     But  get  them  there  first. 
Okay,  3.25.     0^  FLOW  indicator  is  off  scale  low. 

Okay,  can  you  verify  our  suit  pressure  down  there? 
10  ih  5U  16    CC  Roger.    We're  -  you're  locked  up.     Suit  press,  3.8. 


Tape  170/32 

CDR  Okay,  very  good.     We're  coming  on  the  way  open. 

Going  to  zero.     You  guys  ready?    Here  we  go. 

CMP  Okay.     I  don't  change.     I'm  already  there. 

( Laughter) 

10  ik  5^  32    CDR  Yes,  but  Jack  and  I  are  coming  up. 

CMP  Yes ,  I  know. 

10  li+  5)+  U'J     CDR  Okay,  we're  coming  up. 

CDR  Okay. 

LMP  Nice  day  for  an  EVA,  Ron.     Go  out  and  have  a  good 

time  . 

CMP  Yes,  it  ought  to  be  pretty  good  out  there.     I  ...  -  - 

CDR  Okay,  we're  coming  off  the  ... 

CMP  I  just  need  that  one  visor  down,  don't  I? 

CDR  No,  you  need  your  Sun  visor  down,  too.     Bring  it  - 

one  Is  protective,  and  the  other  is  the  Sun. 

CMP  It  is?    Well,  it  looks  dark  out  there.     Can't  even 

see . 

CDR  Well,  use  your  own  judgment.     If  -  if  you're  in  the 

shade,  you  won't  need  it.  But  if  you're  in  the  Sim, 
you  ought  to  have  it  down. 

CMP  Okay . 

10  ih  55  hk    CDR  Okay,  Jack.     I'm  at  2.8  and  coming  up, 

LMP  Okay . 

CDR  Well,  let's  open  her  up  a  little  more. 

10  li+  56  31    CDR  Okay,  the  valve's  all  the  way  open.    And  I'm  3-5. 

10  1I+  56  37    LMP  Okay,  I'm  still  reading  about  3.82,  now. 

10  li+  56  1+5     CDR  0^  FLOW  HIGH  light  is  off.     Okay.     Wait  until  we're 

stable,  Ron,  and  we'll  be  with  you. 


Tape  170/33 


CMP  Okay . 

10  lU  57  00    CDR  Jack,  It  looks  like  I'm  peaking  out  at  -  peaking 

out  about  3-75.    How  you  looking?    Okay,  Ron. 
You're  3.7  to  U.O? 

10  li+  57  08    CMP  Yes,  I'm  reading  3.8. 

CDR  Okay.     EVA  station  pressure  gage  still  up? 

CMP  EVA  station  pressure  gage  -  it's  ...     I  can't  see 

it.     Okay.     Still  -  yes,  about  one-third  -  - 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  -  -  third  ...  there. 

CDR  You  do  not  have  a  tone,  right? 

10  ih  57  25    CMP  Wo  tone. 

CDR  Okay,  can  you  get  panel  3,  S-BAITD  AUX  TV  to  TV? 

10  Ik  57  32    CMP  (Laxighter)  Okay. 

CDR  If  you  can  do  it . 

CMP  ...  the  old  jett  hag  in  the  way  here.     Okay,  TV  is 
going  up  to  TV. 

CDR  You  got  it? 

10  lU  57  ^5    CMP  Yes. 

CDR  Okay.     I've  got  lines  on  the  monitor,  and  he's 

doing  -  the  CDR's  going  ...  PTT. 

CC  Roger,  CDR. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.     We're  ready  for  the  hatch  opening. 

The  lock  pin  release  knob,  unlock. 

10  1^4  58  05    CMP  Okay.     Lock  pin  release  knob,  the  one  on  the  side. 

Push  it  down  to  yellow,  right? 

CDR  Unlock  indicator  release,  white  goes  to  yellow. 

CMP  White  goes  to  yellow.  Okay. 


Tape  170 /3it 

CDR  Gear  box  selector,  unlatch. 

10  lit  58  ik    CMP  Gear  box  selector  to  unlatch. 

CDR  Actuator  handle,  unJatch. 

10  ik  58  19    CMP  Actuator  handle  to  unlatch. 

CDR  Unstow  actuator  handle. 

10  1I+  58  23    CMP  Okay.     We'll  uiistow  the  old  actuator  handle. 

CDR  And  the  hatch  is  yours ,     Unlock  it . 

CMP  Okay,  here  we  go.     1,2,3,-  Oop!     I  got  ahold 

of  it .    And  a  bunch  of  ...  going  out  there . 
(Laughter)     Lost  the  -  Oh,  there  goes  the  pen. 
Yes,   ...     (Laughter)     Okay.     It  was  a  felt-tip  pen. 
No  scissors.  (Laughter) 

CDR  Say,  Ron.     You  want  to  -  actuator  handle  select 

lock  to  L. 

10  ih  59  21    CMP  Okay,  wait  a  minute.     Actuator  handle  to  latch. 

Okay,  she's  stowed.     Yes,  it's  stowed  in  there. 
There  it  is,  okay.     There  we  go. 

CDR  Okay,  now  it's  stowed. 

CMP  Now  it's  stowed, 

CDR  Okay.     Gear  box  selector  to  latch. 

10  lU  59  U6    CMP  Gear  box  selector  is  latched. 

CDR  Okay,  and  you  and  Jack  can  both  lo  -  lower  your 

inner  visors. 

10  ih  59  53    CMP  Okay,  inner  visor's  lowered. 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP  That's  the  ...   

CDR  Okay.     Open  hatch  slowly,  and  verify  that  our  hex 

clears . 


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CMP  Verify  the  what?    Oh,  the  hex.    Yes.    It's  a  good 

thing  I  hung  on  to  it,  or  it  -would  have  been  open 
hy  itself.     ...    Now  you're  going  in  -  here,  let 
me  ...  a  little  hit.    Now  it's  got  it. 

10  15  00  39    CDR  Okay,  Houston.    The  hatch  is  open. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

CMP  Almost . 

CMP  Hey,  there's  the  Earth,  right  up  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.     You've  got  a  -  - 

CMP  The  crescent  Earth. 

CDR  You've  got  a  GO  for  egress. 

CMP  Beautiful. 

CDR  And  just  take  it  slow. 

CMP  Okay.    First  of  all,  I  got  to  get  back  in,  and  get 

the  old  TV  camera.     Oop.     Yes.    That's  right.  I 
don't  even  know  where  the  Sun  is.    Which  way  is 
the  Sun?     Okay,  yes.     Sun's  on  the  right.  Okay. 

10  15  01  h2    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     Ron's  putting  the  camera  out  there 

on  the  pole  now  -  pole  out  there ,  rather . 

CC  Roger.    We  see  the  EVA  light  out  there. 

CMP  ...  stay  lower? 

CDR  Okay . 

CMP  Man,  that  Sun  is  bright.  Whoooo! 

CDR  Pull  down  that  visor,  Ron.     You're  going  to  need  it. 

CMP  Yes . 

CDR  Not  the  metal  one,  unless  you  really  need  it. 

CMP  No,  I  don't  want  the  metal  one. 


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CDR  No,  just  get  the  gold  one.    That's  all  you  need. 

CMP  I'm  trj-ing  to  -  - 

10  15  02  20    CDR  Okay,  you're  clear  back  here. 

EUD  OF  TAPE 


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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10  15  02  26    CMP  Oh,  man.     We're  about  to  get  the  old  TV  pole  in 

and  lined  up.     Locked  in  there.     Oh,  oh,  forgot 
to  turn  the  camera  on.     You  have  it  back?     The  - 
sequence,  yes.     Yes,  let  me  just  get  on  up  in 
the  -  - 

CDR  You're  a  long  way  from  home.     We  don't  want  to 

lose  you. 

CMP  Okay.     ...     Hey,  I  think  I  hear  it  buzzing.  How's 

the  TV  picture,  Houston? 

CC  Really  great,  Ron.     Looks  great, 

CMP  Okay.     Hey,  I  see  what  you  were  talking  about. 

Gene,  on  this  blister.     Something  has  really 
blistered  on  it.     Like  Quad  Alfa.     There's  a  good 
one?  Okay. 

10  15  03  il7    CMP  Guess  we're  cleared  to  go  down  and  get  the  old  - 

the  old  lunar  sounder  cassette,  huh? 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  Okay.     Man,  I  got  my  foot  hooked  to  something. 

Which  way  do  I  need  to  go?    There  we  go.  Okay. 
Okay.     How's  that?    Okay.     Forward?    Go  now? 
Am  I  clear? 

CDR  You're  clear,  babe.  Go. 

10  15  oh  k8    CMP-EVA  Okay.     Hot-diggety-dog ! 

10  15  Oh  51    CDR  Okay.     Did  you  see  him?     He's  out. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP-EVA  Am  I  on  the  tube? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 


■CMP-EVA  Okay. 


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CC  Outstanding  quality  picture,  Ron. 

CMP-EVA    Did  you  see  me  wave? 
CC  That's  affirmative. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     Okay.     Beautiful!     Hey,  the  paint  on 
here  is  just  a  -  it's  a  silver  paint  -  and  it's 
just  little  blisters  on  it,  is  all.    You  just  kind 
of  peel  it  off  with  your  fingers.     Yes,  it  rolled 
off  the  other  way.    Yes,  1  can  see  the  Moon  back 
behind  me!    Beautiful!     The  Moon  is  down  there  to 
the  right  -  full  Moon  -  and  off  to  the  left,  just 
outside  the  hatch  down  here,  is  a  crescent  Earth. 
Maybe  I  can  get  a  picture  of  that  -  the  Earth  as 
I'm  coming  back  in  there.    But  the  crescent  Earth 
is  not  like  a  crescent  Moon.     It's  got  kind  of  like 
horns,  and  the  horns  go  all  the  way  around,  and 
it  makes  almost  three-quarters  of  a  circle.  Hey, 
that  last  mapping  camera  retract  must  have  worked 
because  the  door  is  closed  -  everything  is  closed 
on  it. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron,  you  did  get  the  camera?    Right?  The 

DAC  ON? 

CMP-EVA    Yes.     Okay,  DAC's  working. 

10  15  06  37    CDE  Okay,  you're  GO  to  transfer  to  SIM  bay  and  get 

in  the  foot  restraints. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     Here's  a  piece  of  the  thermal  blanket  from 

the  -  from  the  SIM  door  jett.  Hey,  Houston,  they're 
Just  kind  of  laying  there  underneath  the  EVA  handle. 

CC  Roger.     We  see  it.  Confirm. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     But  it's  a  pretty  clean  cut  from  the  SIM  bay 
itself.     That's  just  a  piece  of  that  thermal  blanket 
that's  sticking  around  there.     Man,  it's  black  off 
this  other  way!     The  pan  camera  lens  is  all  stowed. 


CMP-EVA 


(Humming)     Okay.  (Humming) 


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10  15  08  05    CMP-EVA    Hey,  almost  had  my  foot  in  there,  then  the  cable 

was  hetween  my  foot  -  Can  you?    Okay,  I 'm  having 
a  little  trouble,  right  now,  just  torquing  down  to 
get  my  foot  in  the  foot  restraint,  for  some  reason. 
Yes.     No,  not  yet.     Okay.     Okay,  the  right  one's 
in.     And  the  left  one's  in.     Hey,  pretty  stable 
right  here.     Let  go  of  both  hands?  See? 


CO  Roger.     We  see  you  waving. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)    Hey,  this  is  great!     Talk  -  talk  about 
being  a  spaceman,  this  is  it!     Okay,  back  to  work! 
My  feet  are  a  little  stiffer,  I  think,  or  something 
than  -  than  normal.     Okay,  let's  try  the  old  - 
Ah-ha,  the  ...  is  still  there!     Okay,  here's  the 
pan  cassette  cover  and  -  Oops,  there  it  goes.  Okay, 
before  we  do  anything  else  here,  I  guess  I  better  - 
better  hook  the  old  tether  on  the  thing.  Okay, 
tether  is  on.     And  she's  locked.     Okay.     It  is 
behind  my  back?    Oh,  okay.     It's  nice  and  white 
down  here.     The  UV  cover's  closed  real  well. 
Doesn't  seem  to  be  any  ...  at  all  on  the  white 
face,  on  the  UV  or  the  IR.     Everything  is  in  good 
shape.     Looks  like  part  of  that  -  Oh,  the  cork 
insulation  -  chipped  off  again  down  here  in  the 
corner  -  in  the  corner  that  I'm  looking  at.  Okay, 
let's  try  the  old  cassette.     We'll  push  down  on  it 
until  it  goes  past  center,     Ah-ha!     I  think  that 
was  more  than  2  pounds  of  force  to  come  out,  but 
it  came  out.     And  got  the  film. 

10  15  11  ^0     CMP-EVA    Okay,  she's  locked  in  there.     These  EVA  handholds 

are  -  Hey,  the  foot  just  came  out  -  okay  -  the  EVA 
handholds  are  -  okay,  got  them  free  -  are  rougher 
than  -  What  was  that?  I  just  ...  Oh,  that  was  my 
pocket,  okay.  And  it  creates  a  torque  when  I  cut  - 
when  I  let  go  of  that  pocket,  there,  I  let  go  with 
a  little  bit  of  a  force,  and  the  force  has  a  tend- 
ency to  throw  your  feet  way  up  in  the  air.  (Humming) 


CDR  Keep  talking,  Ron.     I'm  walking  that  one  with  you. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     Coming  right  back.     Oh,  my  feets  are  bounc- 
ing up  in  the  air  again.     Shouldn't  be  any  -  Yes, 
can  you  do  it?    No.     Ooooh.     Hope  I  don't  hit  the 
end  and  bounce  up  again.     Yes.     See,  you  twist 


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yourself  down  there,  and  then  you  got  to  twist  to 
stop,  or  -  or  it  -  you  hit  -  you  hit  the  end  and 
you  bounce  back  up  in  the  air  again.     Okay,  there 
comes  some  of  the  paint.     Oh,  we'll  get  attached 
to  the  thing  on  there,  before  I  take  mine  off. 
Okay,  here  comes  the  old  cassette.     That  -  yes  - 
that  close  enough.  Jack,  or  you  want  a  little 
closer?    Okay.     Yes.     ...     Yes,  hook  them  ...  any- 
way.    Okay,  and  you  got  the  old  lunar  sounder 
cassette. 

10  15  lit  19    CDR  Okay,  Ron,  you're  GO  to  get  the  pan  camera. 

CMP-EVA    Pan  camera's  next,  huh? 

CDR  We  got  a  couple  of  hard  and  soft  covers,  don't 

forget . 

CMP-EVA    Yes,  yes,  there's  a  couple  of  covers  on  there. 

You  know,  the  old  EVA  pole,  I  thought  when  I  was 
looking  at  that  the  other  day  -  it  depended  on 
what  kind  of  light  you're  in  -  it  looked  like  it 
was  burned  a  little  bit.     And,  sure  enough,  it  is. 
Okay,  let's  see,  now,  which  way  did  I  turn  on  on 
this  thing.     I'm  still  backwards  down  here.  What 
the  heck?  (Humming) 

CMP-EVA     Okay,  well,  we  need  to  get  that  "big  old  pan 
camera.     (Humming)  Oops. 

Okay,  I'm  locked  in  there,  and  you  can  relax  a 
little  bit.  Let's  see,  old  suit  pressure  is  - 
must  be  breathing  a  little  bit,  it's  up  to  *+0. 

(Humming) 

Houston,  this  is  America.     Everything  is  looking 
good  from  here. 

Houston,  this  is  -  Let's  see,  when  you're  EVA,  they 
use  -  they  use  your  name,  don't  they? 

Okay,  Ron.     Yes,  sir,  we'll  use  it,  Ron. 

Houston,  this  is  Ron.     Okay?    You  hear  me  okay, 
I  guess,  huh? 


10  15  15  h8    014? -EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 

CC 

CMP-EVA 


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CC  Roger,  Ron.     Read  you  loud  and  clear. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     (Laughter)     Oh,  this  is  great,  I'll  tell  you! 

CC  Yes,  we  thought  it  was  Mr.  America. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     Well,  it  is.     Something  like  that.  Oh, 
hoy!     Beautiful  Moon!     Full  Moon  down  there.  Runs 
hack  of  -  What?     You  know,  you  can't  see  anything. 
The  only  thing  I  can  see  is  the  SIM  bay.     I  can 
see  the  -  the  engine  hell  sitting  back  here.  That's 
a  pretty  good  sized  thing,  too.     And,  of  course,  the 
UV  -  the  ¥HF  antenna  -  is  still  sticking  out  there. 
All  of  the  -  all  of  the  poles  are  on  it.     So  it '  s 
working  all  right.     Oh,  that's  a  little  bit  of  a 
rest.     Let's  pull  the  old  metal  thing  off  here. 
Oh,  okay,  well  -  see  it?     Can  you  see  that?  The 
thing  I'm  holding  up.     Yes,  it's  the  -  it's  the 
cover  that's  on  the  outside  of  the  pan  camera. 
It's  a  thermal  cover,  see,  that  covers  up  the 
cassette. 

10  15  18  07    CMP-EVA    Yes,  well,   I'm  in  the  shadows.     There  we  go.  Yes. 

See,  that's  right.     That's  the  thermal  cover  that's 
on  there,  and  then  that's  the  -  - 

CC  Roger.     Yes,  we  see  it,  Ron. 

CMP-EVA    -  -  Whooooee     (Laughter)     Okay.     Well,  let's  see. 

Ah-ha!     There's  the  pan  cEonera  cassette  down  there. 

CC  We  just  saw  that  cover. 

CMP-EVA    Okay . 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     Let's  see,  that's  hooked  down.     And  lock  it. 

Yes.     ...  hook  laying  there.     Okay,   it's  locked  so 
it  won't  come  apart.     Okay,  where 's  the  old  pin. 
There  it  is.  (Humming) 

10  15  20  02     CMP-EVA    Okay,  pin  is  pulled.     Frees  the  handle.     And  out 

she  comes.     Nice  and  easy.     This  a  heavy  son  of  a 
gun.     Not  heavy  up  here,  it  just  has  a  lot  of  -  a 
lot  of  moraentim  to  it.     Once  she  starts  pulling 
in  one  direction,  it  just  takes  a  lot  of  force  to 
stop  it.     And  we'll  just  try  and  -  Oops,  there's 


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a  -  ...  right  there.     Wouldn't  want  to  do  that. 
Let  me  get  this  thing  first  and  then  get  this 
foot  out.     Okay.     I  think  I'll  Just  kind  of  let 
that  thing  go  and  hang  on  with  hoth  hands.  Get 
it  started  right  in  front  of  me.    Have  to  look 
the  hest  way  to  see  that  one.     Okay.     It's  just 
kind  of  floating  around  up  there.    Both  feet  are 
free.  Okay. 

in  IS  21  2H     CW'-Y.YA    Hey,   it's  just  kind  of  coming  along  with  me.  I'll 

just  let  her  do  that.     Hey,  she's  just  floating 
there . 

CMP-EVA  Okay.  Coming.  She's  still  coming.  Must  be  back 
behind  me.  That's  good.  Nice  and  slow.  Because 
you  don't  want  that  thing  banging  around  too  much 
up  there,  I  don't  think. 

CMP-EVA    Ahhh,  there  it  is!     Delivered  it  right  to  you. 

(Laughter)    That's  the  way  it  ought  to  be  done, 
isn't  it?     Okay,  got  it  locked?    Yes.     Okay.  Ah, 
you  got  it  hooked  on  my  French  gauntlet  -  my  truss 
guard.     (Laughter)     Okay.     That's  a  good  idea. 
Oh,  that  Sun's  bright  when  you  look  into  it.  That 
is  a  biggy.     (Humming)     You  know,  I  just  kind  of 
hook  it  along  underneath  me  and  just  go  backwards 
down  there.     (Humming)     That's  an  unorthodox  way 
to  enter  the  SIM  bay,  but  it  works.     Okay.  We'll 
ease  on  up.     Oh,  okay.     I'm  going  to  rest  when  I 
get  my  feet  in  that  thing.     Wish  you  could  kind 
of  rest  here.     You  could  take  it  nice  and  easy. 
Yes,  once  you  get  your  feet  in  there,  except  that  - 
it  kind  of  -  you  almost  feel  like  maybe  they  might 
come  out,  you  know.     (Laughter)    So  I'm  not  sure  you 
really  trust  them.     The  right  foot's  in  good  and 
tight.     Hello,  Mom! 

CC  We  see  you,  Ron.     Looking  great. 

CMP-EVA    Hello,  Jan.     Hi,  Jon.     How  are  you  doing?  Hi, 

Jaime.     Let's  see,  I'm  supposed  to  rest,  though, 
aren't  I?     What  would  you  like  to  know  about  the 
SIM  bay?     Looks  great.     Nothing  is  scorched.  I 
was  kind  of  surprised  when  I  saw  it  on  this  mapping 
camera  -  There  was  -  the  two  -  well,  one's  just 
kind  of  a  steel  plate  there,  and  right  on  top  of 


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the  door,  there's  something  with  a  piece  of  tape 
on  it.     And  I  thought  that  piece  of  tape  came  off 
before  launch. 

CC  Ron,  Just  a  couple  q^uestions  while  you're  standing 

there  resting.     Is  there  any  damage  to  the  cable 
that  the  mapping  camera  -  the  cable  between  the 
mapping  camera  and  the  shelf? 

10  15  25  26     CMP-EVA    Let  me  check  on  that  one. 

CC  Roger.     Don't  move  and  look  at  it.     It  was  not 

that  important.     If  you  can  see  it,   fine;  other- 
wise,  forget  it. 

CMP-EVA    Yes.     Okay.     I  want  to  kind  of  take  a  look  at  it 
when  I  go  by.     There's  Jack  (laughter)     Hey,  how 
are  you  doing?    You're  looking  right  into  the  Sun, 
though,  and  I'm  looking  right  at  you.     I  should 
have  a  camera,  and  I  could  take  your  picture.  And 
there  -  see  the  Moon  back  over  there?    That's  a  - 
Well,  that's  the  way  it  goes.     Hey,  it's  clearer 
down  here  when  you  take  that  visor  up.     I  hope  I 
took  the  outside  one.     I  mean  the  gold  one.  No, 
that's  both  of  them,  I  think.     Better  leave  it 
down.     There  we  go.     Yes,  you  take  the  outside 
one  up  a  little  ways  and  then  you  can  really  see 
down  in  the  SIM  bay.     You  know,  that  tape  down 
in  here  is  not  scorched  one  bit.     The  whole  side 
of  the  spacecraft  is  scorched  like  a  son  of  a  gun 
but  the  -  you  know,  the  panels,   and  everything. 
Man,  there's  bubbles,  you  know,  on  all  that  silver 
paint  that's  on  here  -  is,  you  know,  it  used  to 
be  kind  of  a  bright-looking  silver  paint.  It 
looks  like  -  it's  in  a  shadow  right  now  -  but  it 
looks  like  it's  just  been  heated  up  one  way  or 
another.     Yes,  that's  it  up  here  between  the  SIM 
bay  and  the  top  of  the  service  module.     It  actu- 
ally looks  like  it's  been  burned,  you  know.  Not 
just  a  little  bit  warm,   it's  just  kind  of  burned 
because  it's  bubbled.     Yes.     That's  what  you  were 
seeing  from  the  LM,  I'm  sure.     And  -  but  -  as  far 
as  I  can  -  it's  kind  of  dark  down  the  other  side 
of  the  spacecraft  -  the  other  side  of  the  SIM  bay 
but  it  looks  like  the  thrusters  don't  make  any  - 


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hardly  any  marks  on  there.     Now,  I  look  -  I  look 
at  quad  A  -  the  side  of  quad  A  thruster,  though, 
and  it's  all  scorched.     So  I'm  not  sure  but  what 
that  might  have  been  -  what  in  the  world  could  do 
that?    Tower  jett,  do  you  suppose?    I  don't  know. 
Might  have.    Well,  let's  take  one  of  these  covers 
off.     Oh,  this  is  -  like  it  did  in  practice. 
(Laughter)     Sticking  underneath  the  door.  Looks 
like  I  can  jerk  on  it  a  little  harder  up  here.  In 
practice,  I  didn't  want  to  break  it.     There's  -  a 
part  of  the  -  could  you  see  that  one? 

CC  Roger.     We  see  it.     Looks  like  the  outer-space 

Olympics  going  on  up  there. 

10  15  28  26    CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     Hey,  this  is  great,  I'll  tell  you! 

And  let  me  see  which  way  to  throw  it  so  you  all 
can  see  it  down  there.     There  it  goes.  (Chuckle) 
Okay  

CC  Rof^er.     We  see  it  reflecting  off  in  the  distance. 

CMP-i'VA    Did  you  see  it?  Okay. 

CC  Never  did  that  in  the  water  tank. 

CMP-vVA     (Laughter)     Yes.     That's  the  little  -  the  Mylar. 

That's  that  tinfoil  they  make  the  LM  out  of,  you 
know. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP-EVA     (Laughter)     No,  not  really.     You  know,  it's  kind 
of  an  insulation-type  stuff.     And  see  all  that 
yellow? 

CDR  If  that's  what  they  made  the  LM  out  of,  you'd 

never  be  able  to  pull  it  apart,  I'll  tell  you. 

CMP-EVA     (Laughter)     That's  right.     I  -  I'm  Joking  about 
that,  you  know.     I'm  really  joking.     Fellows,  it 
was  a  good  vehicle. 

CC  We'll  send  your  apologies  to  Bethpage. 


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CMP-EVA    And  (laughter)  -  No,  I  guess  Bethpage  knows  I'm 
joking,  you  know.     Let  me  see.     Hey,  I  got  to 
make  sure  I  get  this  on  the  right  handle  here, 
don't  I? 

CMP-EVA    Gee,  that's  why  I  wore  my  watch,  and  I  forgot  to 

start  it.     (Laughter)     Okay.     About  hO  minutes,  huh? 

CC  We've  got  you  35  minutes  -  36  minutes,  Ron. 

CMP-EVA    Oh,  okay.     Oh.     Okay.     Yes,  the  EVA  lights  are 

kind  of  "blistered,  also.     No,  they're  back  behind, 
toward  the  Sun.     Put  some  hooks  on  there  now.  I'm 
hooked  onto  the  (chuckle)  cassette.    No,  maybe  that 
tape's  supposed  to  be  on  that  pan  camera,  I'm  sure. 
Put  the  old  doors  back  in  there  real  well.     I  don't 
know  what  -  what  would  cause  that  thing  to  -  ... 
those  k  minutes,  anyhow.    Ah-ha!    There's  the  old 
mapper  cassette.     Well,  I'm  going  to  -  am.  I  sup- 
posed to  pick  it  up  or  what?    I  want  to  take  a 
look  down  in  there.     Can't  get  out  that  way. 
(Laughter)     Got  my  left  foot  stuck  in  there,  and 
you  can't  go  out  in  the  left  direction  with  -  with 
my  foot  in  there.     You  have  to  lean  over  to  the 
right  a  little  bit  to  take  your  foot  out.  (Humming) 
Yes,  nice  and  clean  -  down  in  there.     Yes,  that 
cable's  in  the  clear.     I  can  see  down  in  there. 
There  doesn't  seem  to  be  anything  hanging  up  on 
it  at  all. 

CC  Okay,  Ronj  good  show. 

10  15  32  i+Q    CMP-EVA    Okay.     Put  the  old  Sun  visor  down  now.  Whoops, 

come  back  here,  little  cassette.     (Humming)  Yes, 
I  was  going  to  try  to  lift  that  door  up,  but  should 
have  done  that  while  I  was  punched  down  in  there. 

CC  There's  no  requirement  on  that,  Ron;  no  requirement. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     Okay.     I  want  to  check  one  thing  while 
I'm  out  here  before  I  leave,  and  to  see  the  bottom 
of  this  quad  A.     Forgot  to  look  at  it.     Yes,  well, 
it  looks  just  like  the  side  almost.     More  blistered 
on  the  side  than  it  is  on  the  bottom,  but  I  think 
maybe  it's  just  the  paint.     Okay,  I'm  coming  back 
in .     Oh ,  Okay . 


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CMP-EVA    Man,  the  RTV  is  good  out  here.    Looks  brand  nev. 

Whatever  they  put  on  the  hinge.     Looks  like  that 
RTV  stuff,  you  know.     That's  why  they  sealed  around 
all  their  doors  on  here.     And  it's  spanking  clean 
as  ever.     (Humming)     Okay,  no  hurry.     ...  Once 
(Chuckle)  -  Outstanding  -  once  you  get  stable  in  a 
position,  see,  I  can  pretty  much  hang  on  with  one 
hand,  and  I  can  twist  -  Oops.     Yes,  once  you  start 
going,  it's  a  son  of  a  gun  to  try  -  it's  all  wrist 
action.     Working  -  Yes,  but  once  you  get  stable  on 
the  thing,  you  can  kind  of  relax  there,  and  - 
Yes  . . .  drift,  you  know,  and  if  I  ever  bang  my 
foot  against  -  against  something,  just  -  just 
barely  touch  it,  and  it  bangs  right  back.     And  - 
Hey,  America  looks  really  great  there.     Still  got 
that  silver  tape  on  him  -  or  is  it  blue?  Looks 
silver  with  this  helmet.     Let's  see,  I've  got  to 
get  over  this  way  farther  this  time,  don't  I?  Okay. 
There  we  go.     Hey,  I  got  a  picture  of  the  waste 
water  dump  from  the  LM  the  other  day,  but  it  looks 
the  same  way  now.     There's  all  kinds  of  little  ice 
particles  all  aroiind  the  -  the  periphery  of  the 
dump  nozzle  itself.     It  covers  up  the  -  well,  that 
kind  of  gold  part  that's  -  that's  on  the  -  on  the 
end  of  the  dump  nozzle.     And  then,  there  are  little 
particles  of  frozen  water,  I  guess  -  must  be  - 
that  are  -  that  are  all  over  -  up  the  side  of  the 
spacecraft  there,  but  only  in  the  vicinity  of  the  - 
the  nozzle.     It  goes  up  just  about  to  window  num- 
ber 1  -  it  goes  up  to  window  number  1  -  well,  maybe 
on  up  to  -  no,  there's  particles  all  the  way  up 
the  side  of  the  spacecraft,  clear  up  to  the  top 
of  the  tunnel.     But  they're  real  fine.     I  want  to 
see  if  they're  stuck  on  there.     Hey,  you  can  just 
touch  them,  and  they  blow  away.     They're  just  little 
ice  particles. 

10  15  37  ^2    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     We  got  all  three  cassettes  this  side. 

CC  Roger,     Good  show, 

10  15  37  h6    CKP-EVA    Hey,  here's  something.     You  know,  the  one  thing  that 

really  shows  up  -  and  it  makes  you  kind  of  proud  - 
it  says  United  States,  and  it's  got  a  United  States 
of  America  flag  right  below  it.     That  didn't  get 
scorched  or  a  darn  thing.     That's  great.     And  - 


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let's  see  now  -  I  see  what  Charlie  Eruke  meant. 
Man,  it's  dark  out  here.     It  is  really  dark.  The 
scimitar  antenna,  right  there  -  in  no  shape  -  no 
problem.     Wish  there  were  some  more  handholds,  I'd 
go  around  the  other  side  of  the  spacecraft.  Take 
a  look  at  the  high  gain.     There  aren't  any  more 
handholds . 


CC  Okay,  Ron,  we  don't  need  any  more  spacecraft  com- 

mentary.    We'd  like  you  to  go  ahead  and  terminate 
the  EVA.     You're  looking  great.     You're  looking 
great.     Everybody's  really  pleased,  and  we'd  just 
like  to  go  ahead  and  terminate. 

10  15  39  h9    CMP-EVA    Okay.     Sounds  good. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we'll  get  back  in. 

CMP-EVA    Torque?     I  can't.     How's  that? 

CMP-EVA    Okay,  I  guess  we'll  -  start  getting  back  in  then. 
I'm  up  below  the  camera  right  now. 


CC  Ron,  you'd  be  happy  to  know,  on  the  TV,  we  got  a 

great  view  of  your  OPS  [?]  with  the  United  States 
flag  on  it. 

CMP-EVA    Hey,  beautiful!     Perfect!     Let's  see,  which  way 
do  I  want  to  get  the  umbilical  down  there?  Oh, 
yes,  but  you're  pulling  me  sidewise,  okay.  That's 
all  right.     Wait  a  minute.     Okay.     No,  that's  all 
right.     Okay.     You  are  in  good  shape  now.  Go 
ahead  and  start  pulling  in,  now. 


CDR  Wait  a  minute,  Ron,  until  we  get  Jack  in  the 

right  place. 

CMP-EVA  Okay . 

CMP-EVA  Is  it  clear? 

CDR  Yes,  the  umbilical 's  in.     Come  on  in. 

CMP-EVA  Okay. 


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CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CC 

CMP-EVA 
CC 

CMP-EVA 

CMP-EVA 

CC 

CMP-EVA 

CDR 

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CC 

CMP-EVA 


You  coming  in  head  down  or  up? 

Up.     This  way  right  now. 

You  can't  close  the  hatch  that  way. 

I  know  it. 

Okay. 

Mot  yet.     What  does  that  look  like  on  the  monitor? 

Well,  you  should  have  -  test  me,  and  I  wouldn't 
want  to  guess.     It's  probably  the  full  Moon, 
isn't  it? 

It  is . 

You  taught  me  well,  Ron;  taught  me  well. 

Okay,  you  got  -  got  you  real  well  there.  Okay, 
then  I'm  going  to  arc  it  around  and  ...     See  if 
I  can  turn  around  here  and  -  Yes,  I  am.  Trying 
to,  anyhow.     Yes,  wait  a  minute,  I  can't  -  No, 
I 'm  not. 

Yes,  afraid  I  can't  get  to  it.     Can't  point  it. 
Okay,  well,  I'll  just  have  to  get  back  in. 

Okay,  Ron,  we  know  what  you're  trying  to  do,  and 
we  appreciate  the  TV  show.     We're  looking  -  we're 
sorry  to  see  you  go,  but  we'd  like  to  terminate. 

( Laughter) 

We ' re  terminating  -  - 
Okay,  we're  terminating. 

And  you  might  be  advised  you're  right  on  the 
Flight  Plan,  you're  right  on  the  Flight  Plan, 

Oh,  okay.     Good.     I  didn't  want  to  get  -  cut  my 
time  short,  or  anything,  you  know. 


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CDR  Unless  you  can  set  it  way  back  there.     Okay,  then 

I'll  keep  it  right  here. 

CMP-EVA    Sure  it's  there,  Geno?    We  can  shove  it  underneath 
your  couch. 

CDR  That's  the  "best  place  to  shove  it. 

CMP-EVA    Can  you  do  that?    I'll  get  up  out  of  your  way,  here. 

CDR  Let  me  get  it.     Let  me  get  out  from  under  the 

cord.  Okay. 

CMP-EVA    And,  if  you  can  get  the  TV  switch  there.  Jack,  that 
kind  of  saves  -  all  that  stuff,  I  guess. 

LMP  Okay . 

CMP-EVA    If  you  can't,  I'll  get  it  when  I  come  in. 

CDR  Okay,  and  I  got  it  OFF  up  here,  too.     Okay,  you're 

in  STANDBY.     That's  all. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     I'm  going  to  have  to  come  in  there  kind 
of  -  a  little  bit  blinded,  because,  in  order  to 
get  in,  I  got  to  look  at  the  Sun.     So  you  just 
got  to  point  me  in  the  right  direction  there. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     Hey,  one  of  our  -  Wait  a  minute  -  one 
of  our  -  Kleenexes  we're  using  to  wipe  the  windows 
with  is  stuck  in  the  -  the  gear  thing.  (Laughter) 
There  it  goes. 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP-EVA  Okay. 

CDR  Okay,  and  back  on  down. 

CMP-EVA    Well,  let  me  see  here  -  backing  down  -  let  me  see, 
which  way  do  I  - 

CDR  Straight  down. 


CMP-EVA 


Okay. 


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CDR  I  got  your  leg. 

CMP-EVA    Got  my  leg? 

CDR  Okay,  on  the  left,  make  sure  that  the  -  - 

CMP-EVA    Wait  a  minute,  let  me  -  What?     Swing  on  the  leg, 
or  what? 

CDR  Just  kick  it  down,  you'll  be  free.     Kick  your  - 

kick  your  right  leg  down. 

CMP-EVA    There  we  go.  Okay. 

CC  Hey,  Ron.     We  assume  the  scissors  went  out  the 

hatch.    Is  that  affirm? 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     I  didn't  see  a  thing. 

CDR  Can  you  pull  it  -  let  me  get  your  umbilical. 

CMP-EVA    (Laughter)     The  only  thing  I  saw  go  out  was  the  - 

CDR  Okay,  Jack   

CMP-EVA  ... 

CDR  Ron,  Ron,  how's  the  hatch?    Get  down  on  the  hatch. 

Yoiir  OPS  isn't  fitting  through  the  top.     Pull  your 
self  down.     Straight  forward.     Face  down.  Nose 
do™.     Now  back. 

CMP-EVA    Okay.     How's  that? 

CDR  Now  back.     Keep  coming.     Keep  coming.     Now,  can 

you  reach  the  hatch? 

CMP-EVA    Yes,  makes  it  sort  of  . . .     Let  me  get  back  in  a 
little  bit. 

CDR  Okay . 


CMP-EVA 


Let  me  get  this  visor  up.  One  of  them,  anyhow. 
That's  a  pretty  Earth  up  there. 


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CDR 

CMP-EVA 

CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

CMP-EVA 
CDR 

10  15  UT  23  CMP 
CDR 
CMP 


Okay.    Keep  -  keep  your  -  - 

Keep  your  hand  on  the  -  the  hatch  here.  ... 
crescent  Earth. 

Wow,  does  the  seal  look  good  to  you,  while  you 
got  your  nose  there? 

Yes.    Wait  a  minute  -  - 

Check  that  stuff  on  the  .  . . 

Got  a  cassette  going  out  the  window,  there.  Okay, 
it's  clear. 

Okay. 

You'll  have  to  look. 
Kick  that  hack. 

Okay,  now  I  think  everything's  clear  out  of 
the  hatch. 

Okay. 

You  see,  the  reason  we  put  that  -  - 
Okay. 

Can  we  get  rid  of  the  -  instead  of  pulling  the 
pip  pin,  we  put  this  little  hex  nut,  see,  because 
I  can  reach  down  there  and  grab  hold  of  the  -  - 

Okay.     Start  pulling. 

-  -  the  hook  and  pull  -  and  here  she  comes. 
Okay,  she's  coming.     Here  she  comes. 
Okay,  and  I'm  already  back  inside  here. 
Okay. 

Man ,  it ' s  dark  in  here ! 


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CDR  Okay.    You  got  to  -  when  you  made  your  first  turn, 

you  got  a  pull  light,  there. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute. 

CDR  Okay,  get  a  couple  turns  on  it. 

CMP  Okay.     There's  one  turn  on  it.     I  mean  -  I  -  I 

can  release  it? 

CDR  Okay,  now  get  it  hack. 

CMP  That's  a  little  harder  to  pull  shut  than  I  -  - 

CDR  The  hatch  is  coming. 

CMP  Yes,  I  thought  it  was. 

CDR  Keep  going. 

CMP  That's  as  far  as  it  will  go. 

10  15  1+7  58    CMP  Let's  see,  does  that  line  up  with  these  little 

marks  on  there? 

CDR  Okay;  and  the  hex  is  clear.     That  one's  in  good 

shape.     Close  the  hatch  and  -  Okay.     Verify  lock 
pin  dropped  in,  white  to  white. 

10  15  i+8  08    CMP  Yes.     Okay,  we're  white  to  white. 

LMP  Okay,  stow  actuator  handle,  ACTUATOR  HANDLE  in 

NEUTRAL. 

10  15  1+8  1I+    CMP  ACTUATOR  HANDLE  is  NEUTRAL,  and  it's  stowed. 

LMP  Okay,  you  still  got  white  to  white? 

CMP  I  still  got  white  to  white. 

LMP  And  the  dogs  over  here  look  good  to  me. 

CMP  The  dogs  look  good,  let  me  see  if  my  pencil  mark 

is  on  there. 


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CMP  Yes,  they're  lined  up. 

LMP  Okay,     GEAE  BOX  SELECTOR  -  LATCH.  Verify. 

10  15  hQ  31    CMP  GEAR  BOX  SELECTOR  is  verified  LATCH. 

LMP  Okay.     Cabin  repress. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute,  I  got  to  close  the  -  Oh,  okay, 

now  I  -  - 

CDR  Let's  get  this,  then  we  can  start  on  cahin 

repress,  okay? 

CMP  Okay.     Side  hatch  dump  valve,  close. 

LMP  Okay.     Side  hatch  dump  valve,  close. 

10  15  ^8  h6    CMP  Okay,  we're  closing  it. 

CMP  You  know,  it's  funny.     We  didn't  see  anything 

come  up  around  that  crazy  ...  we  put  in  there, 
but  as  soon  as  I  opened  the  hatch,  the  whole 
world  came  out, 

LMP  Okay, 

10  15  h9  11    CMP  Okay.    Okay,  it's  closed. 

LMP  Okay,  on  326,  REPRESS  PACKAGE,  OFF. 

CMP  Stand  by.     Well,  we  got  all  the  stuff  in  there. 

LMP  Got  it  all. 

10  15  ^9  2k    CDR  Okay.     REPRESS  PACKAGE  is  OFF.     Ron,  on  601,  0^  - 

REPRESS  0^  OPEN  and  ...  CLOSED.     Cabin  pressure, 
1  psi. 

CMP  I  can't  see  what  the  -  - 

LMP  Geno,  then  you'll  have  to  give  us  a  hack  on  1  psi 

if  you  can. 


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CMP  Wait  a  minute. 

CC  Gene,  we're  watching.     We'll  give  you  a  hack  at 

1  psi.    No  problem. 

10  15  k9  h6    cm  Okay,  we're  -  REPRESS  is  OPEN. 

CMP  And  I  can't  get  it  off  there.    Wait  a  minute  -  - 

LMP  It's  going  to  come  pretty  fast,  Ron. 

CMP  I  can't  even  -  Wait  a  minute  -  I  can't  tiorn 

around  far  enough  to  see  it. 

10  15  50  03     CC  And,  America,  we  see  your  cabin  coming  up.  You're 

at  0,3- 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP  0.3?  (Laughter) 

CC  You're  at  0.7,  0.7- 

10  15  50  19    CC  Okay;  turn  it  off,  you're  at  0.1  -  I'll  say  again, 

1  psi. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CDR  Okay;  give  us  a  GO  when  it  looks  good,  Houston. 

CMP  Oh,  yes.     See  the  hatch   

CC  America,  you're  looking  good.     No  ... 

CMP  Okay,  we're  going  to  go  REPRESS  -  - 

10  15  51  l6    CDR  Okay,  REPRESS  -  OPEN,  and  let  it  go  to  zero,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  We'll  end  up  with  about  2  psi.     Can  you  see  the 

gage? 

CMP  Well,  wait  a  minute.     Let  me  turn  ...  I  think  I'm 

still  hooked  ...     There  we  go.     Okay,  I  can  see  - 
No,  that's  temperature.     Okay,  here  It  is. 


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CDR  No,  no.     I  mean  the  REPRESS  0^. 

CMP  Oh,  the  REPRESS  0^? 

CDR  Right  in  front  of  you. 

10  15  51  hk    CMP  Yes,  it's  almost  zero.     Oh  (laughter)  I  was  look- 

ing at  CABIK  PRESSURE. 

IMP  No,  REPRESS  O^. 

CMP  It's  atout  zero. 

CDR  Well,  when  you  think  it's  zero,  you  can  -  - 

CC  Okay,  Gene,  we  got  -  we're  indicating  2  psi  down 

here  at  this  time. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron.    If  it's  zero,  you  can  close  REPRESS 

0^  valve. 

10  15  52  03'    CMP  Okay,  we'll  close  the  REPRESS  0^ .    What  the  - 

Okay,  ...  place  for  a  valve. 

LMP  Okay,  we're  going  to  let  your  flow  bring  ...  rate. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  And  your  next  move,  after  we  get  a  hack  at  3,  will 

be  to  disconnect  your  OPS  hose  and  hold  it  directly 
into  the  cabin  volume  -  - 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  -  -  and  we ' 11  get  your  OPS  . . . 

CMP  Would  you  -  would  you  believe  I'll  let  you  do  that? 

CDR  Yes,  I  would. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay,  because  you'll  be  going  through 
this  thing. 

CDR  Yes.     Yes,  I'm  almost  down  there,  now. 


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CMP  Say,  Houston,  I  was  surprised  when  I  closed  the 

hatch  here.  It  came  closed  real  well,  up  until 
ahout  an  inch  from  the  -  Can  you  see  the  CABIN? 

CDR  No. 

10  15  52  59    CC  Ron,  we're  watching  the  CABIN.     It's  2.2.  I'll 

give  you  a  call  at  3- 

CMP  Oh,  okay;  mighty  fine.  Bob.     I  was  going  to  say 

the  -  when  you're  closing  the  hatch,  I  expected 
it  to  come  aJ-1  the  way  closed,  you  know?    And  it 
came  to  within  about  an  inch  of  the  -  of  being 
closed  on  the  outer  -  not  the  inside,  but  the 
other  side,  and  wouldn't  come  any  more,  unless 
you  really  pulled  on  it. 

CDR  Yes. 

CMP  So  and  then  your  -  Of  course,  it  was  pretty  easy 

to  piill  because  you're  kind  of  flattened  down  in 
there  anyhow.     You  just  pull  it  closed,  and  then 
once  you  get  the  lever  over  the  -  over  the  center, 
it  comes  right  closed. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron,  what  I'll  do  when  we  get  up  to  3,  I'll 

disconnect  your  OPS  hose.  Jack,  and  I'll  let  you 
pull  it  around  behind  his  back.     And,  then,  you 
can  hold  it  in  the  open  cabin  and  I'll  actuate 
his  OPS. 

U^IP  Well,  we  got  a  lot  of  use  out  of  that  OPS. 

CMP  Yes.     Let  me  actuate  it,  okay? 

CDR  Okay.     I'm  glad  I  didn't  have  to  earlier  in  the 

week. 

CMP  Well,  me,  too,  you  know.     I'm  glad  I  didn't  have 

to  today  either. 

CDR  Yes,  I  am,  too. 


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10  15  5^  13    CMP  YoTi  know,  my  gloves  are  dirty,  but  I  think  they're 

dirty  from  getting  ahold  of  that  -  those  dirty 
suits  of  you  guys,  you  know.    Jack,  did  you  get  . . . 

LMP  Okay. 

CMP  Well,  you  know,  you  want  to  see  if  there's  any 

residuals  from  the  thrusters  out  there,  you  know. 
Well,  I  couldn't  see  anything  anywhere  except 
the  -  on  the  EVA  handrails  themselves.     And  that 
really  didn't  look  like  it  was  a  residual  to  me. 
It's  Just  a  discoloration,  and  it's  kind  of  a 
changing  of  the  condition  of  the  -  whatever  is  on 
those  things,  you  know.     Hope  they're  not  painted. 
I  guess  what  I'm  saying  is  that  they  were  shiny 
burnished  aluminum,  I  guess,  or  whatever,  prior 
to  lift-off,  but  now  they're  kind  of  a  dirty- 
looking  burnished  stuff. 

CDR  Okay,  Ron,  when  they  give  us  that  3,  I'll  get 

your  hose.     Jack  can  hold  it  in  the  cabin,  you 
can  activate  your  OPS. 

CMP  Okay. 

CDR  Then  we'll  watch  the  cabin  come  up  to  5,  and  then 

the  OPS  will  come  off,  then  we'll  get  a  HIGH  0^. 

CDR  How  we  doing  down  there,  Houston?    This  is  America. 

10  15  57  06    CC  America,  you're  looking  great.     You're  up  at  2.6. 

It's  going  up  slowly,  just  like  we  expected. 

CDR  Okay. 

CDR  Not  a  bad  performance  by  my  CMP,  was  it? 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  Was  beautiful.    We  had  a  beautiful  television 

show.     Really  beautiful. 


CMP 


( Laughter) 


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10  15  57  50    CDR  Well,  we  got  three  packs  here  all  snuggled  away. 

CC  Yes,  indeed,  you  made  a  lot  of  people  in  the 

hack  room  very  happy.    They're  looking  forward 
to  getting  that  film. 

CMP  Well,  the  best  part  about  it  is,  from  all  indica- 

tions, it  ought  to  be  real  good  film,  too. 

10  15  58  16    CC  Yes,  sir.     Looks  like  everything  worked  out  great. 

You're  at  2.7  and  climbing  very  slowly. 

CMP  ( Laughter ) 

CMP  Hey,  Houston.     Tell  Chuck  Stahl  [?]  that  attitude 

for  the  EVA  was  outstanding. 

CC  Thank  you,  Ron,  he's  listening  right  here,  and 

he's  been  on  the  console  during  the  whole  period. 
Got  a  big  grin  on  his  face  right  now. 

10  16  00  36    CC  And,  America,  the  cabin  is  at  3  psi. 

CDR  Okay,  Robert,  we're  pressing  on.     Okay,  Ron,  I'll 

get  your  -  - 

CMP  Can  you  get  them  off? 

CDR  Yes.     Okay,  Jack,  if  you  can  get  the  -  hose  from 

behind  him. 

CDR  Okay,  go  ahead  and  activate  it,  young  man. 

CMP  You  got  ahold  of  it.  Jack?  Okay. 

CDR  Yes,  hold  on  to  it  tight. 

10  16  01  13    CMP  You  feel  anything?    Yes,  it's  really  blowing  in 

there . 

CDR  Okay,  we'd  like  a  hack  on  the  cabin  when  we  get 

to  5. 

CC  Roger,  America.     We'll  give  you  a  hack. 


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10  16  02  03    cm  ProlDa"bly  can  ...  that  out.     0^  HIGH  FLOW,  Jack, 

that's  a  MASTER  ALARM  ...     There  it  is.     Yes  ... 

LMP  That's  the  main  regs  coming  in,  I'll  het  you. 

CMP  Must  be  the  main  regs  cutting  in.  (Laughter) 

That's  right,  you  can't  see  MASTER  ALARMS,  can 
you? 

10  16  03  5h    CC  Okay,  America;  you  got  5.1  cahin  press. 

10  16  OI+  00    CMP  Okay.     I'm  coming  off. 

CDR  Okay,  and  I'm  going  ... 

CMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  pop  the  CABIN  out  there  if  I 

don't  turn  mine  off  pretty  quick.     Okay.     Oh,  no, 
it  didn't  come  up  that  fast.     There's  not  that 
big  a  hurry.    We're  waiting  a  long  time  to  get  - 
to  get  from  2  to  3.     Yes,  you  get  a  HIGH  0^  FLOW. 

CMP  Yes,  my  -  Oh,  your  accessory  bag  is  in  there,  I 

guess.     The  -  the  gloves. 

CMP  Just  let  me  get  the  tone  down  here.     Ding,  ding, 

ding,  ding.     Okay,  I  got  it.     I  think  we  did, 
didn't  we? 

10  16  06  02    CMP  Yes,  if  we  can't  find  that  one,  let's  find  another 

one.     Got  to  have  something  to  stick  -  stick  my 
gloves  in,  you  know.     Yes,  the  thing  you  put  your 
gloves  in,  you  know?    There  it  is,  right  there. 
Yes,  you  got  to  use  yours,     (Laughter)  Okay. 

10  16  06  k5     CC  America,  Houston.     Your  cabin  pressure's  up  to 

5.5,  5.5. 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  turn  this  off  now. 

CDR  Okay,  we're  right  now  at  the  point  where  we're 

going  EVA  STATION  0^  OFF. 

CMP  . . .  off  my  clothes?    For  favor. 

CDR 


Yes. 


We're  supposed  to  stick  them  in  the  bag,  aren't  we 

. . .  bag. 

Okay. 

Smells  kind  of  funny  in  there.     What'd  you  guys 
do?  (Laughter) 

Surge  tank.     Ohhhh,  yes,  it's  TOO  now,  725.  Is 
that  what  that  -  Yes,  that's  why  - 

Better  turn  the  . . . 

There  we  are.     Okay,  I'll  turn  the  TV  switch  on. 
Well,  we're  really  not  transmitting  down. 

Okay?    Yes,  we  can  go  to  FILL.     We  got  600,  TOO, 
let's  see  -  - 

Okay.     ...  FILL  on  the  REPRESS  at  this  time. 

How  low  do  we  take  this  down  to?    UOO?  Probably 
stop  before  that,  anyhow. 

Okay, 

America,  Houston, 

Yes,  go  ahead.     Go  ahead,  Houston. 

Roger,     Ron,  just  two  reminders  here  while  you  go 
through  your  unsuiting  and  cleanup  procedures. 
We're  trying  to  get  established  on  a  new  biomed 
cycle,  so  we'd  like  to  have  the  IMP  on  biomed. 
We'll  be  coming  up  with  a  complete  scheduling  here 
shortly,  and  just  a  reminder  for  the  LMP  and  the 
commander,  we  want  to  make  sure  we  retrieve  their 
PRDs, 


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CMP  (Laughter)     Okay,  that's  a  good  point. 

LMP  Okay,  I  gave  you  a  PRD  about  2  hours  ago,  and 

Just  to  bring  you  up  to  date  to  where  it  was, 
and  we'll  keep  them  out. 

CDR  And  commander  retrieved  his  yesterday. 

CC  Yes.     No  problem.     We  just  want  to  make  -  reminder 

We  just  want  you  to  be  reminded  that  we  need  them. 

CMP  Take  mine  out  now.    Wonder  if  I  got  any  zaps  when 

I  was  out  there? 

LMP  Thank  you.  Bob.     I  even  forgot  that  I  reminded 

you  to  remind  me . 

10  16  11  02    CMP  (Laughter)    And  15055.     I  didn't  get  very  many 

rads  while  I  was  out  there,  I  guess.     Like  it 
was  51  this  morning.     Okay?     Here,  I'll  hold 
this  thing. 

CMP  How  about  giving  me  a  squirt?  (Laughter) 

CMP  That  right  there.     Yes,  three  of  them.     I  threw 

away  all  the  dirty  ones,  I  think.  (Laughter) 
The  whole  time.     Boy,  it  -  Yes,  it  sure  whipped 
out  through  there  when  I  opened  the  hatch. 

CC  Sure  wish  you'd  seen  the  scissors  go. 

CMP  (Laughter)     I'll  bet  -  hey,  I'll  almost  make  a 

bet  with  somebody  that  it's  down  behind  the  optics 

CMP  Okay  (chuckle).     They  don't  look  dirty  to  me,  do 

they?    Wash  them  off,  anyhow,  though. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute,  let  me  push  them  back  . . , 

CMP  Should  have  used  hot  water.     Or  is  that  thing 

cold,  you  mean?     Is  that  cold?    Boy,  that  is  cold, 
isn't  it?    No,  it  doesn't  fold  there,  just  stick 
the  whole  thing  in  there  like  that.  No. 


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CMP  Yes,  now  let's  use  some  of  that  good  food  tape 

that's  stuck  over  there.     And  there's  some  on 
the  side  of  the  -  the  light.     You  can  use  those 
to  tape  those  holes  ...     Yes,  just  the  mapping 
camera.     Yes,  that's  all.     No,  just  the  map.  Oh, 
it  has?    There's  a  chunk. 


CMP  There's  yoiir  hole  through  there.     Oh,  yes,  we  got 

a  lot  of  tape,  I'm  sure.     We  want  to  tape  this 
whole  thing  here. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we're  in  the  process  of  cleaning  up 

the  cassettes  -  - 


CMP  The  breather  holes  -  see  the  holes  in  this  panel. 

CC  Say  again,  CDR,  you  were  cut  out  on  VOX  there. 

10  16  15  30    CDR  Okay.     I  forgot  Ron  was  still  on  VOX  during  this. 

I  Just  wanted  to  keep  you  up  to  date.  We're  - 
we're  taping  up  the  cassettes  now  and  cleaning 
them  up  and  getting  them  stowed. 


CC  Roger.     Good  show. 

CMP  I'm  sorry.     I  led  myself  astray.     Yes,  overlap 

it,  because  it  won't  stick  to  that  thing  very 
good.     No,  it  just  won't  stick  ...     We'll  just 
take  tape  and  wrap  all  the  way  around  the  thing. 
Otherwise,  it's  not  going  to  stick,  period.  Yes. 
It's  up?    That's  right.  (Chuckle) 

10  16  17  Ok    CMP  Oh,  we've  been  doing  this  for  two  or  three  flights, 

you  know.     Why  change  it  for  the  last  one?  Yes, 
probably  one  all  the  way  around.     Get  your  corner, 
there.     Yes,  we  got  another  roll  of  that  tape  you 
guys  brought.     Just  about  that  size,  I  guess.  You 
got  it?    Yes,  they're  down  here.     We  missed  them. 
(Laughter)  Yes. 


CMP 


Keeps  the  light  and  the  water  out  of  it,  I  guess. 
Not  the  water  because  you  got  a  breather  hole,  but 
keeps  the  light  out  that  film  slot. 


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10  16  18  hh    CMP  Two  of  them  are  around  this  way. 

CMP  Does  take  a  lot  of  tape,  doesn't  it? 

CMP  Yes  J  sure  doesn't  stick  to  a  cassette.  Sometime. 

I  couldn't  find  mine.  They  must  have  been  in  the 
other  set  of  gloves.  I  forgot  about  them.  Well, 
that's  ...     No,  there's  nothing  taped. 

10  16  23  15    CDR  Okay,  Bob,  we're  on  3-20,  and  we're  all  going  to 

get  out  of  our  suits  and  stow  them  before  we  get 
the  center  couch  back  in. 

CO  Roger,  Gene.     Sounds  good. 

CDR  And  I  guess  I  can  get  some  DAP  changes  for  you, 

if  you'd  like. 

CC  Stand  by  on  that. 

CC  Okay,  Gene;  you're  -  you  can  go  ahead  and  do  the 

DAP  change. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Just  one  update.     We  won't 

give  it  to  you  as  an  update  at  this  time,  but 
wherever  you  see  IR  work  just  ignore  it.     Do  not 
turn  the  IR  on  and  no  need  to  open  the  IR  cover. 
We're  through  with  it  until  just  prior  to  entry 
interface. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob;  understand  that. 

10  16  29  1^     LMP  UV  is  ON. 

10  16  29  29    LMP  And  the  UV  cover's,  coming  OPEN. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  go  down  through  the  Flignt 

Plan  down  through  about  259:1+5,  get  this  maneuver 
started.     And  then  we  can  press  on. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go,  America;  Houston. 


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CDR  Okay.     I'm  pressing  on  through  the  Flight  Plan 

to  about  259:^5,  and  getting  everything  up  to 
and  including  the  maneuver,  and  then  we  will 
continue  with  ouir  post-EVA. 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  for  you  to  hold  on  that  maneuver. 

Gene.     Don't  start  the  maneuver. 

CDE  I've  already  started  my  roll.     Do  you  want  me 
to  stop  if. 

LMP  And  did  you  copy  the  IE  was  ON  and  the  COVER  OPEN? 

CC  Okay,  we  copy  that.     IR  ON  and  the  COVER  OPEN. 

LMP  I'm  sorry.     I  was  UV  -  ON.  UV  COVER,  OPEN. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  are  you  reading  America? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  America.     Houston  here. 

CDR  Okay.     Did  you  get  the  word  that  it  was  the  UV  - 

ON  and  the  UV  COVER,  OPEN? 

CC  Roger.     We  got  that  word. 

CDR  Okay.     And  I'll  stop  my  roll  at  270  degrees  and 

will  not  maneuver  until  I  hear  from  you. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  You're  not  getting  a  good  key  down  there,  by 

the  way. 

CC  Say  again.  Gene. 

LMP  Houston,  your  keying  is  cutting  you  out,  I  think. 

CC  Okay;  are  you  reading  me  now? 

LMP  Yes,  that  was  good.     Did  you  \jnderstand  Gene's 

transmission  on  his  stopping  the  roll? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 


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10  16  33  15    LMP  Houston.     CABIM  FAN  is  coming  ON. 

10  16  33  20    CC  Roger. 


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Tape  172/1 


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10  16  35  05    CC  America,  Houston.    You're  cleared  to  go  to  the 

VERB  1+9  maneuver  as  published  in  the  Flight  Plan. 

LMP  Okay,  Bob. 

LMP  Houston,  would  you  like  OMNI  Alfa  now? 

CC  Negative.    We'd  like  you  to  go  to  OMNI  Charlie 

for  now. 

LMP  Oh,  I'm  sorry.    Okay,  OMNI  Charlie,  right. 

CC  No  need  to  apologize.    The  Flight  Plan  says  Alfa; 

we're  just  going  to  Charlie,  which  is  the  best 
antenna. 

LMP  Well,  that's  all  right.     I  misunderstood  what 

Gene  just  told  me  about  his  maneuver. 

10  16  U6  kO    CC  America,  we'd  like  OMNI  Alfa. 

CDR  Say  again.     You're  cutting  out  badly. 

CC  We  would  like  OMNI  Alfa.     OMNI  Alfa. 

CDR  Okay.    You  said  OMNI  Alfa.    We'll  go  there. 

CDR  Houston,  you  read? 

CC  America,  Houston.    Yoiir  coram  is  going  to  be  a 

little  ratty  until  you  get  into  configuration 
here  -  or  rather  get  into  attitude. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob,  I'm  reading  you  now.    Say  again  please. 

CC  I  just  said  it ' s  going  to  be  a  little  bad  comm 

until  you  get  into  attitude,  se  we  shoxald  hold 
this  for  a  while. 

CDR  Okay.     Then  when  we  get  there  you  want  OMNI  Alfa. 

Right? 


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CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Okay.    We'll  give  it  to  you  when  we  get  there. 

10  16  i+9  51    CC  America,  Houston.     If  you.  have  somebody  handy  to 

the  panel,  we'd  like  to  take  the        FANs  to  OFF. 

10  16  "50  03    CDR  Roger.  tank  2  FANs,  OFF. 

CC  Thank  you.  Gene. 

CDR  We're  OMNI  Delta.    We're  reading  you  loud  and 

clear.    Do  you  want  us  to  stay  here? 

CC  That's  affirm.  Gene.    That's  a  good  show.  It's 

right  -  you  know,  it's  right  on  the  line  there. 
It  -  Delta  shows  better  on  the  signal  strength 
and  Alfa  shows  better  for  location.    So  let's 
stick  with  Delta. 

CDR  Okay. 

10  IT  07  12    CC  America,  Houston.    Please  advise  us  of  how  you 

axe  going  to  handle  the  waste  stowage  vent.  Is 
that  open  or  you  going  to  close  it  now? 

CMP  It's  open  right  now.    3ut  we're  going  to  close  it 

here  shortly.    Do  you  think  we  need  it  closed  now? 

CC  Negative.    It's  your  option.    We  Just  want  to 

know  what  -  in  case  we  get  an  0^  FLOW  HIGH,  we 

might  understand  what  it's  from. 

CMP  Oh,  I  see.    Okay,  we'll  close  it  after  a  bit  here. 

10  17  13  22    CC  America,  you  might  be  interested  in  -  while  you're 

doing  aj.1  this  hard  work  up  there  you  might  be 
interested  in  how  some  of  the  Texas  footbsill  teams 
have  fared.    Houston  had  a  toughy  today.  Cincin- 
nati took  them  61  to  17. 

CMP  . . .  Wait  a  minute . 

IMP  Houston  -  took  who?    61  to  17? 


Tape  172/3 


CC  That's  what  they  tell  me.    And  the  other  one  is 

those  -  the  biggy  up  at  Dallas  right  now.  The 
Giants  leading  the  Dallas  Cowhoys  in  the  third 
period  21  to  3.    20  to  3;  I'll  correct  that, 
20  to  3. 

CMP  Okay.    20  to  3.    Hew  York  over  Dallas,  huh? 

CC  That's  what  it  looks  like.     That's  in  the  third 

quarter. 

CMP  Okay. 

10  17  16  19    CC  And,  Ron,  we're  going  to  do  a  site  handover  here 

in  about  U  minutes,  and  we  may  lose  some  lock  here. 

CMP  Okay.    That ' s  all  right . 

CC  And  how's  the  post-EVA  checklist  coming?  You 

chugging  along. 

CMP  Oh,  chugging  along.     We've  got  two  guys  that  have 

their  suits  off  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Well,  they  say  it  always  takes  longer  up  there 

than  in  the  -  Got  all  evening  to  do  it.  There's 
no  hurry  on  it. 

CMP  (Laughter)    That's  right.    Hey.    Hope  North 

American  doesn't  think  I  was  badmouthing  their 
spacecraft  down  there,  because  you  know  -  a  little 
bit  of  blistered  paint  on  it,  that  doesn't  hurt 
anything.    It's  still  a  dam  good  spacecraft. 

CC  No,  I  don't  think  North  American  even  -  I  think 

they  think  it  was  Just  great,  but  I  don't  know 
if  I'd  ever  go  to  Bethpage  if  I  were  you. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

CC  Ron,  that  was  such  a  great  show,  I  don't  think 

anybody  would  care.    That  was  Just  tremendous. 


Tape  172 /it 


.  CMP  (Laughter)    Okay,  Bob. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    This  the  CDR  backup, 

10  17  18  20    CC  Roger. 

10  17  25  16    CDR  Houston,  America;  the  WASTE  STOWAGE  VENT  valve 

is  CLOSED. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

10  17  38  37    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  America.     Looks  like  the 

repress  package  is  up,  and  surge  tank  is  back  up. 
Would  you  like  us  to  turn  the  cell  off  and  turn 
the  Og  heaters  off. 

CC  Geno,  EECOM  says  affirmative  to  all  that. 

IMP  Okay,  Gordo.    How  you  doing? 

CC  Pretty  good.    I  saw  Ron's  stroll  arotind  the  service 

modTile.    Looks  like  he  had  a  ball, 

LMP  Yes,  he  did. 

10  17  52  15    CC  America,  Houston;  over. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  We  have  ...  up  the  DSE,  so  we'd  like  you  to  go 

ahead  now  and  do  the  maneuver  listed  at  26l.  Give 
us  the  high  gain  so  we  can  dump  it.  Over. 

10  17  52  kk    CDR  Okay.    Maneuver's  coming  at  you. 

CC  Okay.    And  for  your  information,  charge  nxmber  5 

just  went  off.    It  was  a  3-pounder,  and  it's 
Jiggling  the  instruments  on  the  surface  there 
properly. 

LMP  Very  good.    Any  new  word  on  the  gravimeter,  Gordy? 

CC  I  haven't  got  it  yet.  Jack.     Let  me  check.  Have 

you  heard  anything  since  you  asked  me  the  question 
last  night? 


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LMP  Well,  whatever  it  was  -  No,  I  haven't  heard 

anything. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  try  to  get  an  update. 

LMP  I  was  thinking  of  the  lunar  surface  gravimeter, 

not  the  traverse.  They  apparently  don't  want  to 
talk  to  me  ahout  the  traverse  gravimeter. 


CC 


Ok£^,    We'll  try  for  info  on  both  of  them. 


LMP  Okay.    Any  other  new  stuff  you  might  have  heard 

or  get  a  hold  of,  I  might  "be  interested  in. 

10  IT  58  28    CC  Okay.    America,  Houston;  we  need  OMNI  Charlie,' 

please. 

CDR  Houston. 

CC  America,  Houston.    OMNI  Charlie,  please. 

IKP  Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read? 

CC  Okay;  loud  and  clear.     Go  aiiead. 

10  IT  59  36    LMP  Okay.    We  apparently  -  in  our  struRKles  up  here 

'  inadvertently  hit  the  WASTE  WATER  to  DUMP  and  it's 

back  in  RELIEF  now.    That  dump  is  terminated;  we 
have  30  percent  waste  water. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  I'm  not  sure  what  we  had  when  it  started.    I  Just 

noticed  the  streamng,    I  don't  think  it  was  on 
very  long. 

CC  Roger. 

10  18  06  00    CC  America,  Houston.    We  need  -  we  could  use  the  HIGH 

GAIN  now,  NARROW  and  REACQ. 


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Tape  1T3/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRMISCRIPTION 


10  18  08  05    CC  America,  Houston.     HIGH  GAIN's  not  going  to  work 

in  NARROW,  now.    Wait  a  while;  it's  in  a  skin  re- 
flection area. 

LMP  Yes,  I'm  having  the  same  problem  there  -  I  noticed 

the  same  prololem.    How's  this,  leave  it  in  WIDE? 

CC  That  will  he  fine. 

10  l8  09  5U    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  you  to  go  to  REACQ 

now,  wait  30  seconds,  and  then  go  to  HARROW. 

10  18  10  h3    CDR  Hello,  Houston.    We're  turning  the  CABIN  FAN,  OFF, 

for  a  while. 

CC  Roger. 

10  18  13  20     CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  NARROW  beam  width. 

LMP  Thanks  for  timing  30  seconds  for  me,  Gordy.  I 

think  that  was  beyond  me. 

CC  You're  welcome. 

10  18  1I+  33    LMP  Doesn't  look  like  it's  going  to  make  it,  does  it? 

CC  No,  it  sure  doesn't.    Stand  by  1,  and  we'll  give 

you  an  alternate  plan  here. 

10  18  15  20    LMP  I'm  back  in  WIDE. 

CC  Roger. 

10  18  IT  2T    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  going  ^o  have  to  have 

the  high  gain  for  the  dump  and  also  for  a  little 
additional  work  with  the  HF  antennas  and  the 
sounder  that  we're  going  to  read  you  here  in  a 
minute.    So,  in  order  to  get  it,  we'd  like  you  to 
pitch  up  20  degrees  in  your  present  attitudes ;  and 
when  you  get  there ,  then  we  ought  to  be  able  to 
reacq_uire  and  go  NARROW. 

Ltvlp  Okay . 


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CC  Once  you  get  the  antenna  locked  on  in  NARROW  it  will 

track  back  to  this  attitude,  and  that's  what  we'd 
like  you  do  is  come  back  down  to  this  attitude, 
once  you  get  the  antenna  locked  on. 

LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  we  got  a  good  lock  now. 

CC  Okay.    Fine.    Well,  then  go  right  on  back  to  the 

program  pitch  attitude  there,  and  it  should  hold. 

LMP  In  work  -  in  work, 

10  18  20  ill    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  have  somebody  go 

to  panel  230.    I'll  give  you  switches  real  time, 
save  you  writing  them  all  down  to  get  a  couple  of 
things  cranked  up  here.  Over. 

CDR  Okay.    What  do  you  want  at  230? 

CC  Okay.    Basically  what  we're  going  to  do  is  turn 

the  IR  ON  with  the  COVER,  CLOSED,  to  keep  it  warm 
so  you  can  do  that  IR,  ON,  now.     And  then  we're 
going  to  put  out  the  HF  antennas  and  listen  to  HF 
getting  some  data  or  background  noise  from  the 
Earth.     If  you'll  put  HF  ANTEimA  2  to  EXTEND, 
we'll  give  you  a  cue  when  to  go  OFF  when  it's  all 
the  way  out.  Over. 

CDR  Okay.     HF  ANTENNA  2  to  EXTEND  on  my  MARK. 

10  18  21  18    CDR  MARK  it. 

CC  Roger. 

10  16  2k  01    CC  Okay.    We'd  like  HF  ANTENNA  2  to  OFF ,  please. 

10  18  2h  17    CDR  Okay.    HF  ANTENNA  2  is  OFF,     It  maintained  barber 

pole  all  the  time  there.     Iz  never  went  gray  until 
we  turned  it  off. 


Okay.     It  probably  isn't  out  yet.     The  reason  we 
had  you  stop  was  because  the  recorder  that's 
watching  that  broke  down,  down  here.    We  got  to 
get  that  back  on  line. 


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CDR  Okay. 

CC  While  you're  waiting  there,  I  can  go  over  the  foot- 

hall  scores  for  the  weekend,  if  you  wish. 

IMP  Just  a  minute.    Let's  see  if  we  can  get  Ron  on  a 

headset . 


CC  Okay. 

LMP  He's  walking  -  he's  walking  around  here  thinking 

he  doesn't  have  to  do  anything  any  more  after 
that  EVA,  but  we'll  get  him  hack  to  work. 


CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  ready  for  those  scores  now. 

CC  Okay.    Just  1  second,  Ron.     I  think  we've  got 

another  switch  for  you  here. 


CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    We'd  like  to  take  the  somder  HF  ANTENNA 

number  1  switch  to  EXTEND.    We'll  let  the  motor 
on  2  cool  off.    We  do  have  the  recorder  fixed,  so 
we  can  watch  1  now. 


CMP  Okay.    Number  1  is  going  to  EXTEND.    3,  2,  1  - 

10  l8  2T  l8    CMP  MARK  it;  barber  pole. 

CC  Okay.    I've  got  the  whole  list  of  scores  here; 

some  of  these  were  yesterday  you  probably  heard  of, 
but  I'll  just  go  through  them  all.    San  Francisco 
beat  Minnesota,  20  to  IT.    Miami  made  it,  I  guess 
lU  straight,  l6  to  0  over  Baltimore.    And  Buffalo 
beat  Washington,  2it  to  7,  how  about  that?  Cleve- 
land beat  the  Jets,  26  to  10.    Kansas  City  beat 
Atlanta,  17  to  ih.    Green  Bay  won  over  New  Orleans, 
30  to  20.     St.  Louis  beat  Philadelphia  in  a  close 
one,  2k  to  23.    Denver  beat  New  England,        to  21. 
Detroit  beat  the  Rams,  3^+  to  IT;  and  Oakland  beat 
the  Bears,  28  to  21.    And  here's  some  sad  news. 
The  Giants  beat  Dallas,  23  to  3.    And  one  final 
score  -  Cincinnati,  6l,  Houston,  IT- 


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CC  Over, 

LMP  Over.  Gordy, 


CDR 


CMP 
CC 


CC 


Gordo,  we  -  don't  have  any  contact  -  comment.  All 
three  of  my  teams  lost  today. 


CC  Roger. 

10  18  29  36    CMP  Hey,  nuBxber  1  Just  went  gray  on  the  lunar  sounder. 

CC  Okay . 

And  I'll  turn  the  switch  to  OFF,  if  you  want. 


That's  affirmative.    OFF  on  1  and  then  on  2,  we'd 
like  you  to  go  to  RETRACT-  for  10  seconds ,  then  put 
her  in  EXTEND,  and  we'll  watch  it. 


10  18  30  11    CMP  Okay.    RETRACT,  1,  2,  3,  U,  5,  6,  T,  8,  9,  and 

about  10,  I  guess.    Okay,  then  I'm  going  to  - 

10  18  30  29    CMP  EXTEND,  now. 

CC  Okay. 

10  18  31  55    CC  Okay.    We'll  take  numher  2  to  OFF,  please.  And 

we're  going  to  let  the  motor  cool  down  for 
15  minutes  so  you  got  at  least  that  long  until 
the  next  time  we  htig  you. 

10  18  32  07    CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     It's  OFF  now. 

10  18  1+9  07    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  try  antenna  num- 

ber 2  again. 

CMP  Okay. 


What  we  want  is  you  to  go  to  RETRACT  for  10  seconds 
and  then,  EXTEND. 


CMP  Okay.    Wait  1. 

10  18  k9  33    CMP  Okay.     RETRACT.     There's  10  seconds.     Back  to 

EXTEND . 


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It's  going  to  EXTEUD,  now. 

Okay,  and  we're  Just  wondering  where  you  stood  on 
the  post-EVA  checklist  procedures. 

Well,  probably  about  75  percent  through.  What 
we ' re  doing  is  stowing  all  this  stuff  out  here , 
and  then  we're  going  to  go  back  through  and  check 
things  off. 

Okay .     Fine . 

Gordy,  did  our  little  waste-water  burn  there  hurt 
us  or  help  us? 

I  guess  we  haven't  been  able  to  determine  yet. 

Okay.    HF  2  AHTENNA,  OFF. 

Okay.    It  was  OFF,  when  you  called. 

I  guess  the  motor  is  -  - 

And ,  Gordy  -  -  . . . 

-  -  Just  about  stalled  out.    Doesn't  seem  to  be 
much  -  making  much  -  much  progress  there,  so  - 
Go  ahead, 

I  was  Just  going  to  say  we  took  time  out  here  to 
grab  something  to  eat,  cause  it's  been  a  long  time 
between  breakfast  and  lunch  so  a  -  I  will  try  and 
do  a  little  inventory  here  and  give  you  a  page 
and  let  you  know  about  where  it  is . 

Okay.    We're  not  intimating  there's  any  hurry.  We 
Just  were  curious. 

Okay,  a  little  more  amplification  on  that  antenna. 
The  motor  gets  hot  and  it  starts  -  slows  down  and 
stops  making  progress .     But  each  time  we  make  a 
little  more  progress  to  getting  it  out,  and  we're 
aLunost  all  the  way.    We're  going  to  give  it  another 
cool-down  period.    We'll  give  you  a  call  when  we 
want  to  try  it  again. 


Tape  173/6 


CMP  Okay.    Sounds  good. 

CC  I  do  have  a  bunch  of  short  Flight  Plan  updates , 

none  of  which  is  very  close  in  the  future.  So 
any  time  someone  has  nothing  to  do,  I'll  "be  glad 
to  read  them  up. 


CDR  Okay.    Let's  eat  for  a  little  while,  Gordy. 

CC  Fine . 

CDR  Is  it  still  sunny  and  cold  back  there? 

CC  That's  affirmative;  it  was  clear  and  -  were  you 

talking  about  the  Houston  weather?    Or  the  SIM-bay 
weather?    The  SIM  bay's  getting  cold,  also.  It's 
cool,  but  it  was  sunny  here  today.    It'll  probably 
be  a  cold  night  since  it's  clear. 


10  18  53  09    CDR  Okay.    Thank  you. 

10  18  58  ^5    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  ready  to  give  another 

stab  on  the  HF  ANTENNA. 


CDR  Okay . 

CMP  You  want  to  go  RETRACT  first ,  then  for  10  again? 

CC  That's  affirm.    Ten  seconds  RETRACT,  then  EXTEND. 

10  18  59  09    CMP  Okay.    Going  to  RETRACT  and  OFF. 

10  18  59  22    CMP  Okay;  going  to  E3CrEND,  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  it's  getting  out  there  inch  by  inch, 

but  we  got  to  back  off  and  hit  it  again.     Go  to 
RETRACT  for  10  seconds,  and  then  back  to  EXTEND. 


CMP  Oh,  okay.     I  went  to  OFF  there  for  a  second,  and 

I'll  go  to  RETRACT  now,  and  then  to  EXTEND. 


CC  Okay. 
10  19  00  5^    CMP  Okay.     I'm  going  to  EXTEND. 


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CC  Roger . 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  go  to  OFF,  and  it'll  be  another  10-minute 

wait. 

10  19  01  U7    CMP  Okay.    We're  OFF. 

10  19  l8  31    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America.    Are  you  ready  to  maneu- 

ver here  to  the  UV  stellar  target  attitude? 

CC  Stand  hy;  I'll  check. 

CC  Okay.    I  guess  everybody  is  in  agreement.    Go  ahead 

and  high  gain  should  stay  on  during  this  maneuver. 

10  19  19  09    CDR  Okay;  we're  maneuvering.    I  hope  the  Sun  comes  in 

the  window  on  this  next  maneuver. 

CC  Is  it  getting  cool  up  there? 

CDR  Well,  I'm  freezing  something  off. 

CC  Hey,  we  got  a  little  procedure  to  warm  things  up 

in  the  cockpit,  if  you'd  like  it. 

CDR  We  -  we  heard  that  earlier,  and  we're  passing  on 

that  right  now. 

CC  Was  it  the  one  about  turning  INVERTER  3? 

CDR  No,  we  didn't  hear  that  one.    Why  don't  you  tell 

us  what  that  one  is . 

CC  Okay,  Cernan,  put  INVERTER  3  on  MAIN  A.  That 

will  put  some  heat  load  into  the  system,  and  then 
GO  to  MANUAL  on  the  TEMP  IN  valve.    Go  down  and 
adjTist  the  EVAP  OUT  temperature  to  59  degrees  - 
make  it  55  degrees,  55  degrees.    And  that  shoiold 
help  warm  things  up. 

LMP  Okay.    We'll  let  you  know  if  we  give  that  a  try 

and,  Gordy,  I  guess  we're  ready  to  copy  some  of 
those  Flight  Plan  updates . 


Tape  173/8 


CC  Okay.    Fine.    We'll  keep  an  eye  on  the  TEMP  OUT 

so  that  -  let  you  know  if  the  -  it's  getting  away. 
Let's  see  -  let's  start  on  -  Stand  by  1.  Start 
on  page  3T5  at  263  hours. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    Down  at  263:^0  where  it  lists  the  jets  to 

use  for  spinup  or  for  damping,  rather,  we're 
going  to  change  the  Jets  to  he  used  for  damping, 
since  those  ones  listed  didn't  work  so  hot  last 
night.    Want  to  use  all  of  quad  Delta.    Delta  1, 
2,  3,  and  h  and  Charlie  3  and  k,  those  six  Jets 
in  place  of  the  ones  listed. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  and  Just  to  the  left  of  that  box  delete 

"IR  COVER,  CLOSE"  and  "IR,  OFF." 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  I  guess  -  delete  the  deletion.     I  Just  got  a  call 

since  turn  the  IR  ON.    We  want  to  turn  it  OFF  at 
this  time,  so  leave  the  IR,  OFF,  call  as  is. 

CDR  You  want  -  you  want  to  delete  COVER  CLOSED,  but  - 

but  leave  IR,  OFF,  in,  huh? 

CC  Yes,  the  cover  is  closed,  and  we  want  to  turn 

the  IR  OFF,  at  that  time. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay.    Turn  over  two  pages  to  265:20,  and  make 

the  same  Jet  changes  for  that  PTC  rate  damping, 
all  of  quad  Delta  and  Charlie  3  and  h. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  then  turn  over  1,  2,  3,  k,  several  pages  - 

let  me  find  the  next  one  here.     It's  or.  275:10. 

CDR  Okay . 


CC 


At  275:10,  add  "Charge  BAT  A." 


Tape  1T3/9 


Yes,  sir. 

Turn  the  page  on  276:25,  delete  "IR,  ON."  Then 
down  a  few  lines  at  276 :U5  delete  "IR  COVER,  OPEN, 
before  dxunp,"  and  a  few  more  lines  at  276:57, 
delete  "Charge  BATTERY  A." 

We  got  them. 

Okay,  turn  over  two  pages  to  279:05,  and  change 
"LMP  don  biomed  harness"  to  "CDR  don  biomed  harness." 
279:30  -  change  -  check  CDR  to  -  check  LMP.  Change 
that  to  "Check  CDR"  and  then  make  it  "LMP  doff 
biomed  harness." 

Okay.    I  -  I  got  those,  but  that's  sort  of  slight- 
ing the  CMP. 

Okay,  we'll  consider  that.     Go  on  to  -  - 
That's  harness  -  that's  harnessing  the  commander. 
(Laughter)    Roger.    Okay;  let's  go  to  285:10. 
Okay. 

Okay.     Right  after  the  VERB  U8  add  three  steps, 
number  1  is  "RADAR,  OFF."    Nianber  2  is  "HF  ANTENNA 
to  RETRACT  (OFF,  ON  STDW  cue)."    And  the  next  step 
is  the  same  for  ANTENNA  1.     "HF  ANTENNA  1,  RETRACT, 
(OFF,  ON  STDN  cue) ." 

Okay.     RADAR  OFF,  HP  ANTEMA  number  2  RETRACT  OFF, 
on  STDN  cue  and  the  same  for  number  1. 

Righto,  and  then  same  page,  285:30,  "IR  COVER, 
CLOSE."    Delete  it. 

Okay. 

Next  page,  286:25,  "IR  COVER,  OPEN,"  delete  that. 
And  on  the  next  page,  287:13,  "IR  COVER,  CLOSED"  and 
"IR,  OFF,"  delete  both  of  those.    And  a  little 
further  down  the  page  it  says  "LMP  doff  biomed 
harness."    Change  that  to  "CDR  doff  biomed  harness." 


Tape  173/10 


CDR  Okay.    I  got  those. 

CC  Okay;  next  page  is  anotlier  PTC  spinup,  same  change, 

"Delta  1,  2,  3,  and  U  and  Charlie  3  and  k"  instead 
of  the  listed  jets. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  Okay,  and  then  backtracking  for  one  last  one  that 

was  just  handed  to  me;  go  back  to  263:53- 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  And  the  high  gain  antenna  angles ;  change  them  from 

a  "-1^0  and  90"  to  "20  and  180." 

CDR  Understand;  plus  20  and  l80. 

CC  That's  affirmative  and  that  completes  the  list. 

CDR  What  about  285:30  on  the  Jets? 

CC  I  asked  the  same  question,  I  think.    Let  me  turn 

to  it  here .    Yes ,  that  one  is  a  -  Just  a  short  - 
a  short  r\in  on  it  and  they  Jiost  as  soon  as  it 
wobbles  a  little  so  they  can  leave  those  jets  the 
same.    That's  for  a  UV  scan. 

10  19  29  21    CDR  Okay. 

10  19  33  21    CC  Okay,  guys,  it's  time  for  another  try  on  the  HF 

antenna . 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    HF  AUTEMA  to  RETRACT  for  5  seconds,  and 

then  EXTEND,  please. 

CDR  Okay;  for  5  seconds.    Going  to  EXTEND  - 

10  19  33  hQ    CDR  MARK. 

CC  Hey,  good  work.     It  finally  made  it  out.    Put  it 

OFF,  please. 

10  19  3h  i+7    CDR  It's  OFF. 


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CC  Okay.     And  then  got  some  more  steps  here,  as  soon 

as  I  find  them.    Okay.     LUHAR  SOUNDER  OPERATE 
switch  to  STANDBY.    That's  a  verify.     Then  RECORDER, 
OH. 

10  19  35  07    CDR  Okay.    OPERATE  is  verified  in  STAIJDBY,  and  RECORDER 

is  ON. 

10  19  35  12    CDR  MARK. 

CC  Okay,  and  RADAR  switch,  ON. 

10  19  35  27    CDR  RADAR's  ON. 

CC  Okay.    RECORDER,  OFF,  and  MODE,  HF. 

10  19  35  38    CDR  RECORDER'S  OFF,  and  the  MODE's  verified  in  HF . 

CC  Okay.    That  does  it.    We'll  let  her  tick  away  now 

for  a  while.    Thank  you. 

CDR  I  don't  believe  it,     (Music)  (Laughter)     Got  a 

tissue?  (Laughter) 

10  19  36  25    CMP  Exactly  what  I  was  trying  not  to  do.  (Laughter) 

(Music) . 


END  OF  TAPE 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10  19  53  h3    CMP  Houston,  IT- 

F  IT,  Houston.    This  is  FLIGHT.     Gordo's  in  the  back 

with  his  family.    Go  ahead. 

10  19  53  56    CMP  Okay.    I  just  wanted  to  pass  on  an  OPS  pressure 

we  owe  you.    That's  2000  psi. 

F  Okay;  copy. 

10  20  23  13    CC  Hello,  America;  this  is  Houston.    We're  ready  for 

that  VERB  h9  maneuver  as' shown  in  the  Flight  Plaxt. 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  get  to  it  here.    Just  a  second. 

10  20  28  33    LMP  Say,  Gordy;  this  is  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

10  20  28  ho    LMP  It  may  he  in  iny  imagination,  but  I  thought  I  had 

a  major  blink  in  the  light  from  the  spacecraft, 
not  just  the  floodlights  but  just  generally.  Did 
you  have  any  glitch  or  anything  on  the  traces? 

CC  We'll  take  a  look.    Stand  by.    Give  us  your  best 

guess  on  how  long  ago  it  was . 

10  20  29  OT    LMP  About  -  now  about  20  seconds,  maybe  30. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  America,  Houston.     Request  the  VERB  US  shown  in  the 

Flight  Plan  now. 

10  20  31  16    CMP  Coming  up  at  you. 

CC  And  we're  -  we're  rechecking  on  the  EPS  data.  A 

first  glance  shows  it  solid,  but  we're  not  sure  if 
it  might  have  been  static  during  that  time.  We're 
taking  another  look  here. 

LMP  Gordy,  don't  make  a  big  deal  out  of  it.     It  may  have 

been  just  my  imagination  or  somebody  hitting  the 
floodlight  switch,  but  it  -  we  tried  -  I  -  Gene 


Tape  I7U/2 


tried  that  again,  and  it  didn't  seem  like  what  I 
saw.    It  was  just  a  very  quick  "blink  in  the  lights. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  -  we'll  still  chase  it  down. 

LMP  Okay. 

10  20  If 3  1^    CC  America,  Houston.    The  state  vector  up-link  scheduled 

for  now  won't  "be  necessary. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordy.    How's  the  old  trajectory  looking  these 

days? 

10  20  h3  37    CC  They're  still  cariying  about  one-half  foot  per 

second.    However,  they're  not  in  a  period  right  now 
of  real  solid  .track,  I  guess,  and  -  so  it  -  it'll 
take  them  some  more  hours  to  get  a  really  good 
handle  on  it. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  Nohody  predicts  any  more  maneuvers  until  mid- 

co\irse  7  at  the  earliest. 

CMP  Wiat  would  it  be  at  the  latest? 

10  20  1*9  12    IMP  Hey,  Gordy;  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  I  fail  to  understand  why  eill  my  friends  who  used 

to  operate  the  "backroom,  even  though  it's  Sunday, 
why  they  haven't  given  you  a  sort  of  an  interim 
report  on  what  they  -  what  they  think  happened  at 
Taurus-Llttrow.    They  usually  have  those  things 
available . 

CC  Well,  I  did  -  you  mesm,  the  whole  geological 

summary? 

LMP  Well,  just  the  general  thing  that  they  pass  around 

after  a  -  a  day  or  so,  I  think,  is  the  time  frame 
xhey  work  in. 

CC  Yes,  there  has  "been  such  a  thing  that  I  think  you're 

referring  to.    I  guess  there's  a  more  formal  ver- 
sion coming  that's  supposed  to  "be  due  out  tomorrow 


Tape  17^^/3 


morning,  "but  there  was  a  summary,  fairly  lengthy, 
on  entire  science,  including  the  field  geology, 
which  I'll  try  to  dig  up  and  mayhe  read  to  you  if 
you  wish.  Over. 

LMP  Well,  I  don't  need  a  lot.     I  guess  it  might  be  use- 

ful to  have  a  general  summary  maybe  tomorrow  morning 
some  time,  if  we  have  some  time  in  the  Flight  Plan, 
of  what  people  have  seen  up  to  date  on  things  that 
we  wouldn't  normally  be  familiar  with  for  -  in 
preparation  for  that  press  conference  tomorrow. 

CC  Okay.    Somds  like  a  good  idea.    On  the  -  your 

gravimeter  questions,  the  TGE  nimbers  for  the  com- 
parison I  believe  you  wanted,  between  the  north 
and  the  North  Massif  and  the  Sculptured  Hills,  just 
aren't  available.    The  whole  TGE  team  took  their 
data  and  -  and  left  town,  evidently.    And  -  we  - 
we  have  been  unable  to  come  up  with  any  good 
numbers  on  that  question.    The  lunar  surface 
gravimeter  -  Okay,  break  -  break  here.    We  need 
a  VERB  U8  load  as  shown,  and  then   

10  20  51  1+1    LMP  It's  already  in,  Gordy. 

CC  Oh,  okeor.    So  you  can  go  ahead  and  do  the  maneuver 

then.     On  the  LSG,  still  no  positive  success. 
They've  sent  just  about  all  the  commands  it  can 
take  with  no  luck  at  leveling  the  beam,  and  so 
they've  decided  to  fall  back  and  the  whole  team 
is  regrouping  to  consider  further  course  of  action. 
They've  turned  off  the  command  system  to  it  until 
some  time  tomorrow  when  they'll  try  again,  evidently, 
with  whatever  they  come  up  with  in  their  conference. 
Over . 

LMP  Okay.    We're  certainly  pulling  for  them,  of  course. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Gordy,  do  I  have  it  straight,  that  it,  apparently, 

it's  a  problem  just  in  the  leveling  commands,  or  is 
it  -  it  is  receiving  other  commands ,  is  that  correct? 

CC  That's  the  impression  I  have.     I  hate  to  -  to  say 

yes  certainly.    My  impression  is  that  it  just 
won't  -  won't  level.     It  -  it  will  accept  commands, 
but  the  beam  will  just  not  level  for  a  -  a  reason 
that  they  just  don't  fully  understand. 


Okay.    Does  that  mean  that  you  might  -  Maybe  you 
could  ask  Bob  when  you  see  him  or  something  -  does 
that  mean  the  beam  is  not  free,  or  is  it  not  level? 

As  I  understand  it  -  Steind  by  1. 

Jack,  I  got  a  quick  agricultural  explanation  of 
the  problem,     (ijaughter)    Evidently,  it's  the  two 
plates  between  -trtiich  the  beam  itself  is  suspended 
are  adjustable,  so  that  -  "by  groiind  command,  so 
that  by  driving  these  plates  back  and  forth,  they 
try  to  center  the  beam  between  them.    And  then  the  - 
the  data  is  initiated.    When  the  beam  vibrates  be- 
tween the  plates ,  it  changes  capacitance ,  or  at 
leaist  that's  the  general  principle.    And  the  problem 
is  that  by  drive,  they  can  command  the  plates  back 
and  forth  and  stop  the  stop ,  but  they  cannot  get 
the  beam  to  leave  -  leave  one  of  the  plates .  It 
just  is  hung  up  against  one  plate,  and  this  would  - 
could  be  caused  by  one  of  the  wires  that's  sus- 
pended -  sort  of  hang  the  beam,  pendultmi-f ashion , 
being  broken  so  that  it  has  cockeyed  off  to  one 
side.    I  guess  that's  the  best  guess  as  to  the 
malfunction  at  the  moment.     It's  presently  in  use 
as  a  seismometer  returning  data  in  that  mode,  but 
useless  in  its  primary  intended  data-taking  mode. 
Over . 

Right.    Did  they  see  the  beam  leave  the  plates  at 
all  as  I  shook  it  there  near  the  last  of  our  third 
EVA? 

I  guess  the  answer  to  that  is  "no."    They  saw  you 
jostling  it  around  and  could  tell  where  you  were 
from  the  data  but  have  no  evidence  that  the  beain 
ever  moved  from  the  one  plate. 

Isn't  there  any  possibility  that  the  telemetry  is 
giving  them  a  false  indication  of  not  leveling  -  or 
not  centering,  I  guess ,  would  be  a  better  word? 

Stand  by. 

No,  Jack.    Evidently,  they've  eliminated  that  pos- 
sibility.   They're  certain  it's  a  problem  -  a 
mechanical  problem. 


Okay. 


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10  20  59  ih    CC  Jack,  reference  your  -  the  blink  you  noticed  or 

possibly  noticed  -  we,  looking  at  the  data,  see 
about  30  seconds  prior  to  the  time  we  think  you 
mentioned  that  it  happened  but  that's  close  to  the 
time  frame,  I  guess,  a  1  or  2  amp  oscillation  in 
the  main  B  voltage  or  current.    And  it  only  lasted 
for  one  or  two  data  cycles,  or  like  0.1  or  0.2  of 
a  second  is  all.    We  would  like  to  know,  though, 
approximately  what  setting  all  the  floodlights  are 
at  right. now, 

10  21  00  02    CDR  LEB  are  full  BRIGHT,  and  the  left  hand  are  about 

three-quarters,  right  hand's  about  three-quarters. 
Jack's  the  only  one  who  saw  that.    We  didn't  - 
Ron  and  I  didn't  see  anything  on  that  one,  so  if 
it  -  if  it  happened,  it  was  awful  quick. 

CC  Okay. 

10  21  01  hi    CC  America,  we'd  like       tanks  -       tank  1  FANS  ON, 

please . 

10  21  01  5h    CDR  They're  ON,  Gordy. 

CC  Okay. 

CDR  And  we're  on  a  damping  mode  with  Delta  1,  2,  and 

...  3  and  h. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

10  21  03  33    CC  Okay,  America.    We've  got  another  change  to  the 

changes.     (Laughter)    We'd  like  you  to  leave  the 
IR  on  mtil  our  cue  here. 

10  21  03  k8    CDR  Okay.    I'll  change  my  change  to  my  change. 


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Tape  175 /I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAUSCRIPTION 


10  21  12  27     CC  America,  Houston.     The  rates  look  good.  We're 

ready  to  spin  it  up. 

10  21  12  39    MP  Okay. 

10  21  38  50    LMP  Houston,  17. 

CC  Okay;  go  ahead. 

LMP  Hey,  I  was  just  wondering  how  the  high  gain's 

working  out  for  you? 

CC  Looking  good.  Jack. 

LMP  Okay. 

CC  Jack,  Houston.  Over, 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  The  high  gain  is  holding  on  there,  but  we  think 

we  can  improve  our  -  the  time  we  can  hold  on  to 
narrow  "beam  width  a  little  hit  if  you'd  tweak  it 
to  PITCH,  plus  15,  and  YAW,  plus  l85,  please. 

LMP  Gordy,  you  said  plus  15? 

CC  Affirmative.     Plus  15  and  a  plus  I85. 

10  21  1+2  05     IMP  Okay. 

CDR  Gordy,  the  canister's  changed. 

10  21  kk  08    CC  Thank  you. 

CDR  I  guess  you're  looking  at  the  orange  light, 

too,  huh? 

10  21  1+8  13    CC  That's  affirmative. 

10  22  11  28    CMP  (Music)     Hey,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Captain. 


Okay,  Gordo,     I  took  my  conmi  carrier  apsirt  -  or, 
you  know,  cut  this  little  cloth  covering  that  goes 
from  the  plug  on  up  to  the  headset,  what  have  you. 
And  sure  enough,  there's  two  little  broken  wires 
in  there;  and  the  next  one  is  a  little  hit  -  the 
next  one  to  it  is  a  little  bit  loose,  also.  But 
I  foiand  a  little  piece  of  metal,  and  I  bent  it  to 
the  -  conform  to  the  shape  of  the  wire  and  I've 
got  it  taped  up  real  tight  right  now.     And  I'm 
going  to  see  if  it  works  for  a  while  -  make  sure 
it  doesn't  cut  in  or  out,  you  know,  or  something 
like  that. 

Okay;  good  luck, 

(Laughter)     Okay,     Of  course,  I  still  have  the 
lightweight  headset,     I'd  Just  as  soon  wear  the 
coram  carrier  for  the  reentry,  if  possible. 

Roger.     Say,  we've  investigated  a  little  more  on 
that  possible  spike  that  was  alleged  by  Jack  - 
thought  he  might  have  seen.    And  we  mentioned,  I 
think,  in  response  to  that,  about  a  1  or  2  amp  Jump. 
Well,  looking  further,  we  see  those  all  along;  and 
we  think  they're  probably  due  to  minimum- impulse 
jet  firings.     We're  trying  to  correlate  that  data. 
But  the  conclusion,  right  now,  is  that  we  really 
don't  see  anything  on  the  data  to  support  what 
Jack  might  have  seen. 

Okay,  mighty  fine.     We  -  just  wanted  to  -  you  know, 
in  case  there  was  something  there  -  wanted  to  make 
sure  you  all  took  a  look  at  it. 

You  bet. 

Yes.     Knobby.     Okay,  Knobby,  where  are  you?  Hey, 
I  can  see  a  few  stars  out  there  on  this  side  of 
the  window. 

Can't  see  anything  there.     That's  right  behind 
the  -  By  gosh,  there  it  is,  though. 

Houston,  17. 


Go  ahead. 


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LMP  Gordy,  this  is  Jack.     Is  anybody  watching  my  heart 

rate  -  heart  rate  over  the  last  15  minutes  or  so? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     We  have. 

LMP  What  -  what  did  I  peak  out  at? 

CC  You  peaked  at  105,  Jack. 

10  22  li;  59     LMP  Hummm,  okay. 

CMP  Well,  what  do  you  know.     You  got  to  he  c^uick. 

Just  disappeared  behind  the  ...  limits. 


CMP  No,  not  at  all.  Jack.     Go  ahead.     Jack's  going  to 

stir  the  cryos  again  -  not  stir  them  but  -  de- 
stratify  them.     36  Vega.     Ahh,  that  Vega  is  nothing 
but  a  bear,  (Laughter) 


10  22  17  35    CMP  That  really  shakes  the  spacecraft,  Jack.     You  can 

see  it  when  you  sit  there  marking  on  a  star  and 
it  just  shakes  it  back  and  forth.  (Laughter) 
That's  all  right;  no  problem.    No,  no.  That's 
what  I  say,  no  problem.     No  angle  difference  from 
0.1;  that  wasn't  too  bad.     Number  1  and  36.  You 
got  them  down?    Okay,  Houston,  and  we'll  torque 
at  -  if  you're  all  set,  anyhow. 


CC  Yes,  we're  all  set. 

CMP  Okay,  about  58:it5. 

CC  Okay.    And  then,  when  you  do  that,  we  want  you  to 

stop  the  PTC  right  now.     But  we  want  you  to  use 
the  jet  configuration  -  configuration  we  used  to 
start  at  -  That's  -  all  of  c^uad  Delta  and  Charlie 
and  U,  rather  than  the  jets  listed  in  the  Flight 
Plan.  Over. 


CMP  Okay . 

CC  And  while  we  are  mentioning  jet  configurations, 

that  jet  configuration  is  -  this  is  another  change 
to  a  chajige  to  a  change,  and  we're  sorry  about 
this.     But  we  want  you  to  use  those  jets,  all  of 
Delta  and  Charlie  3  and  h,  for  every  stop  and 


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start  of  PTC  from  here  on  out,  all  the  way  through 
the  final  PTC  exit,  just  prior  to  midcourse  7, 
which  is  shown  in  the  Flight  Plan  -  and  -  and  the 
way  we  waxit  it,  using  coupled  jets  for  that  final 
one.    But  use  Delta  1  through       and  Charlie  3 
and  h  from  here  on  out  for  going  in  and  out  of  PTC. 
And  I  can  read  you  all  the  time  so  that  applies 
to  -  if  you  can  just  remember  it,  that  will  save 
some  writing.     Your  choice.  Over. 

10  22  20  17    CMP  I'll  write  it  down  here  in  the  spacecraft  somewhere. 

CMP  ...  on  the  back  here.  Yes. 

CDR  Gordy,  you  want  Delta  1,  2,  3,  and  k,  and  Charlie  3 

and  h  for  damping.  And  you  want  Bravo  2  and 
Delta  2  for  spinup,  as  the  Flight  Plan  says? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     And  the  damping  is  for  both 

entry  and  exit  of  PTC  from  here  on  out,  except 
that  final  one,  which  is  coupled  just  prior  to 
midcourse. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  And  you  don't  need  to  wait  mtil  roll  of  lit.  You 

can  go  ahead  and  stop  it  right  now.     We'd  prefer 
it  that  way,  as  a  matter  of  fact.  Over. 

CDR  Okay. 

10  22  2h  51    CDR  Is  that  a  CDU  glitch  there,  Gordy?    We  -  Huh?  We 

sure  did.     Hello,  Houston,  you  read  America? 

CC  Yes.     I  was  just  trying  to  get  an  answer  for  you. 

Yes,  it  looks,  at  first  glance,  like  maybe  we  saw 
one.     Stand  by.     I'll  get  a  better  update. 

LMP  Gordy,  why  don't  you  give  me  the  best  OMNI? 

CC  OMNI  Delta  is  the  best  right  at  the  moment. 

U-'iP  Well,  we'll  hang  on  to  you  here  as  we  go.  You 

were  just  on  the  verge  of  dropping  out,  but  we'll 
stay  with  you  on  the  high  gain. 


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CDR  Yes,  Gordy,  our  ball  -  our  ball  -  let's  see  - 

reads  about  256  ROLL,  and  YAW  -  and  PITCH  is  2  - 
about  227,  and  YAW  is  about  U2  degrees. 

CC  You  know  -  evidently  you  definitely  had  a  CDU 

glitch.    We're  trying  to  come  up  with  an  attitude 
that  you  can  fly  to  on  the  ball  as  it  stands  right 
now  in  SCS.     Stand  by. 

CMP  Houston,  both  the  SCS  and  the  IMU  ball  are  okay, 

I  think.     They're  both  the  same.    Well,  they're 
almost  -  yes,  except  for  the  GDC  -  except  for  the 
GDC  drift,  they're  both  the  same.     So  the  error 
is  in  the  HOUW  20s  in  the  computer. 

CC  Stand  by. 

CC  Ron,  does  the  -  does  the  GDC  and  the  IMU  attitude 

agree  right  now? 

10  22  28  19    CMP  Yes,  they  do.     They  agree,  you  know,  except  for 

the  2  or  3  degrees  of  GDC  drift  is  all. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  And  there's  our  NOUN  20s  on  the  computer  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  America,  Houston.    What  we'd  like  you  to  do  is  - 

Were  those  ball  angles  you  read  256,  Oh  -  well, 
let's  see  -  get  the  right  order  -  256,  227, 
and  0I+2  -  Are  those  still  about  where  you  are? 

CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm. 

CC  Okay.     We're  going  to  try  to  compute  a  -  an 

attitude  that  can  get  us  -  to  high  gain  so  we 
have  a  little  more  visibility  into  the  system. 
That's  our  problem  right  now. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Okay. 

10  22  32         CC  America,  Houston.    What  we'd  like  you  to  do  is 

roll  180  degrees  to  about  O76  roll  attitude. 


Tape  1T5/6 


CMP  Okay,  we'll  roll  her  back  to  O76. 

CC  Okay.     Then  once  you  get  there,  the  HIGH  GAIN  angle 

shoiild  he  a  PITCH  of  minus  50;  and  YAW,  205.  Over. 

CMP  Minus  50  and  205.  Okay. 

CDR  We're  on  the  vay,  Gordy. 

CC  Okeydoke. 

CDR  You  might  check,     I  was  loading  NOUN  22.     And  you 

might  just  doublecheck  and  see  what  you  saw  down 
there  and  make  sure  I  wasn't  loading  NOUN  20, 

CC  Okay,  good  call;  we'll  do  that. 

CC  Can  you  give  us  best  OMNI  as  you  roll  around? 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  try 

CDR  Okay,   it's  OMNI  Delta  now. 

CC  Roger.     Loud  and  clear. 

10  22  35  57    LMP  Houston,  I  doubt  if  it's  a  problem,  but  the  UV 

cover's  still  open. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

CC  Okay,  we'd  like  you  to  zero  the  CDUs  now. 

LMP  Looks  about  right. 

CDR  Looks  good,  Gordy.     It  matches  the  ball. 

CC  Roger.     We  see  that.     We're  getting  high  bit 

rate  now,  by  the  way,  also. 

CDR  I  don't  know.     You  can  track  it  down,  but  I  called 

up  NOUN  20  to  check  the  roll  angles,  and  it  was 
not  what  we  were  using  in  the  book  here,  of  ik  de- 
grees.    And  I  very  easily  could  have  -  could  have 
loaded  20  instead  of  22. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  sure  track  that  one  down. 


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10  22  37  28    CDR  ...  if  that  were  the  case. 

CC  America,  we're  ready  nov  for  you  to  proceed  on 

per  Flight  Plan  with  the  VERB  1+9  to  the  sleep 
PTC  attitude.     We  have  not  had  a  chance  to  go 
back  over  the  data,  but  we'll  give  you  a  call  as 
soon  as  we  get  a  chance  to  check  it.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     One  other  interesting  thing  while  we 

went  back  and  looked  at  NOUN  22  after  the  glitch. 
We  still  had  the  NOUN  22  angles  I  had  loaded  for 
the  previous  VERB  kg  at  263:1+0,  which  either  - 
even  makes  me  feel  more  like  I  did  not  load  22  on 
this  next  time  around. 

CC  Yes,  it  sounds  -  it  sounds  like  we  might  have  the 

problem  nailed  down,  hut  we'll  doublecheck  that. 

CDR  This  is  a  gross  admission,  if  that's  the  case; 

but  I'd  rather  have  it  that  way. 

10  22  kl  35    CC  We  won't  hold  it  against  you. 


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Tape  1T6/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


10  22  h2  11    CC  America,  Houston.    Why  don't  you  hold  the  PRO  on  - 

on  this  VERB  k9  until  we  have  a  chance  to  check 
and  see  if  we're  going  to  have  a  girnbal  lock 
problem. 


CDR  Okay . 

CDR  Gordy,  can  I  use  the  roll  we  got,  ikZI  I'll 

stand  hy  until  you  check  that  gimbal  lock  out, 


CC  Stand  hy.    We're  checking  that.     Your  answer  is 

negative.  Gene.    The  present  roll  -  the  maneuver 
should  -  shows  on  our  computer,  you'll  go  to 
gimbal  lock.     So  suggest  you  go  to  l^i  and  then 
start  to  maneuver.     ...  Over. 


CDR  Okay. 

10  22  h9  05    CC  America,  Houston.    Can  you  give  us  AUTO  and 

NARROW  on  the  HIGH  GAIN?     Present  angles  are 
okay. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.    The  computer  knows  where  the  stars 

are  anyhow. 

CC  Okay.     We'd  like  AUTO  and  NARROW,  and  make  sure 

you've  selected  HIGH  GAIN  also. 

CDR  Wise  ...  wise  guy.    Works  every  time,  doesn't  it? 


10  22  50  31    CC  Roger. 

10  22  53  5i+    CC  Well,  America,  the  final  evidence  is  in,  and  we're 

all  putting  our  EMP  books  back  on  the  shelf.  We 
played  it  back  and  we  see  a  VERB  21  NOUN  20,  which 
is  what  did  it  -  and  a  22  and  23- 


CDR  Okay,  I've  been  sitting  here  thinking  about  it. 

Yes,  I  had  -  and  also  the  glitch  occurred  when  I 
did  the  final  ENTER,  so  -  plus  we  had  the 
two-axes  glitch  and  a  number  of  things.     I 'm  - 
I'm  glad  you  confirmed  that.    Makies  me  feel  better. 


Tape  176/2 


LMP  We  were  discussing  whether  or  not  you  needed  an 

EMP  or  not. 

CC  Well,  there  must  "be  one  for  the  situation. 

CDR  Getting  a  little  quiet  up  here  anyway,  Gordy. 

That  one  sure  snapped  us  out,  though. 

CC  Us  also. 

CDR  Hey,  how  far  are  we  from  home? 

CC  Well,  I  can  give  it  to  you  in  hours  from  entry 

interface  right  away  -  38  hours  h2  minutes  and 
h  seconds.    And  in  miles,  you're  1^+3  500. 

CDR  Okay,  thank  you. 

10  22  56  33    CC  Picking  up  speed  all  the  way. 

10  22  59  29     CC  America,  Houston.  Over. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  Gordo. 

CC  I've  been  talking  to  Don  Beaty  and  Dick  Kruse  and 


looking  over  a  transcript  of  -  of  a  science  press 
conference  we  edited  up.     It  was  kind  of  ragged 
but  possibly  interesting  summary  of  the  science 
as  it  stands  now.     In  response  to  your  question 
of  -  of  items  that  might  help  you  prepare  for 
tomorrow's  press  conference,  I  can  come  with  you 
with  those  words  any  time  you  wish. 

CDR  . . .  you  can  come  up  with  them  now. 

CC  Okay.     Let's  start  with  the  -  the  LSPE.  All 

eight  charges  have  now  been  exploded,  and  they 
were  all  on  schedule  and  produced  excellent  sig- 
nals .     These  data  were  used  in  conjunction  with 
the  ascent  stage  lift-off  and  also  its  impact 
data,  which  should  give  us  an  excellent  picture 
of  the  geologic  structure  of  the  outer  3  kilo- 
meters of  the  Moon.    This  little  summary  I'm 
reading  right  now  is  -  was  written  by  Joel  Watkins . 
The  geophone  array  is  functioning  beautifully  and 


Tape  176/3 


and  we're  already  talking  about  its  potential  in  a 
listening  mode  for  study  of  meteorite  impact  fre- 
quency J    We  still  don't  have  precise  EP  locations 
from  Ray  Batson,  so  the  following  interpretation 
will  aJjttost  certainly  he  changed  when  we  get  better 
data  and  field  tapes,  which  we  will  use  to  refine 
our  arrival  times.    Bearing  the  above  in  mind, 
my  preliminary  interpretation  is  as  follows.  The 
low-velocity  layer  seems  to  be  thicker  and  higher 
in  velocity  than  at  either  Apollo  ih  or  l6  sites. 
I  think  this  may  mean  that  the  low-velocity  layer 
here  includes  dark  mantle  material  as  well  as  the 
regolith.    Details  of  the  higher  velocity  substrata 
are  fuzzy,  but  velocities  increase  with  depth  in 
a  way  which  would  be  consistent  with  a  thick  ac- 
cumulation of  lava  flows.    This  probably  repre- 
sents the  subfloor  material.     And  he  concludes  by 
saying,  "You  guys  did  a  great  job,  see  you  after 
splash."     On  the  same  subject,  Dr.  Kovach  went 
a  little  further,  and  he  just  recently  admits  to 
seeing  evidence  of  two  high-velocity  layers, 
especially  after  the  6-pound  charge  was  fired, 
that  -  that  evidence  showed  up.     He  a.]  so  mentions 
in  -  mentioned  in  his  press  conference  yesterday 
that  the  -  the  data  point  allowed  by  the  -  the 
ascent-stage  impact  was  -  was  very  important  - 
the  fact  that  they  -  they  got  it  in  about  9  kilo- 
meters away  and  the  -  that  data  is  right  in  a 
critical  range  where  -  where  they  see  a  big  change 
in  the  -  the  percentage  of  -  velocity  change.  I'm 
getting  kind  of  balled  up  here  in  the  words,  but 
that  data  is  very  important  because  it's  in  - 
where  the  steep  gradient  of  velocity  change  occurs. 
On  looking  through  here,  I  guess,  in  -  in  summary, 
I'll  read  a  couple  of  sentences  again  out  of  the 
press  conference.     We  do  find  evidence  of  lunar 
crust  as  we  did  in  the  past ,  but  we  may  have  to 
thin  it  considerably.     We  may  have,  in  fact,  have 
to  thin  it  as  much  as  to  25  kilometers  instead  of 
60  -  that  they  believed  it  was  up  until  now.  And 
they're  thinking  they  may  have  to  lower  the  veloc- 
ity of  seismic  ways  -  waves  in  the  mantle,  which, 
I  guess,  at  last  guess  was  around  9  kilometers  per 
second.    Now  it's  looking  more  like  7-5 »  and  the 
crustal  velocity  is  probably  as  low  as  6.3  kilo- 
meters per  second.     Okay,  yes.    That  was  -  that 
last  data  was  really  from  Dr.  Latham,  and  he  was 


Tape  176/ it 


interpreting  that  data  mainly  from  the  S-IVB 
impact  and  readings  from  some  of  the  other  seismic 
sites.    Any  questions  on  that?    I  realize  that  this 
is  pretty  ragged.  Over. 

LMP  Oh,  that's  -  that's  great,  Gordy.     Did  Kovach  in- 

dicate his  tentative  depth  for  the  second  high- 
velocity  layer? 

CC  No.     As  far  as  the  information  ve  have  here,  he's 

just  -  I  -  I  don't  see  any  -  the  only  thing  I  can 
see  is  he  mentions  we're  getting  a  depth  sample 
down  to  3  to  U  kilometers ,  hut  that  was  hef ore  all 
the  charges  had  gone  off.     So  I  think,  as  I  say, 
he  just  doesn't  really  state  that  yet. 

LMP  Yes,  it's  a  little  early.     Okay,  good.  Sounds 

like  what  we  saw  in  the  field  to  a  certain  extent . 

10  23  06  09    CC  Okay.     On  the  heat  flow,  it's  continuing  to  work 

perfectly.     It's  stabilizing  out  and,  at  the 
present  time,  they  show  about  a  degree  centigrade 
per  meter  gradient.    Apollo  15  is  stabilized  at 
about  1.8,  and  it  looks  like  the  IT  site's  headed 
for  about  the  same,  which  gives  consistent  data 
for  the  two  sites.     It  looks  like  that's  what  is 
going  to  result  ■vrfien  it  reaches  final  equilibrium. 
And  so  that  -  if  you  call  that  -  those  two  sites 
typical  of  the  Moon,  then  that  leads  one  to  the 
following  conclusions;  that  that  data  requires 
that  there  be  a  total  greater  abundance  of  radio- 
active isotopes  on  the  Moon  as  compared  to  the 
Earth,  so  there  would  be  an  implication  here  for 
a  fundamental  difference  in  the  composition  be- 
tween the  two.    And  the  higher  number  of  isotopes 
would  in  turn  require  that  they  be  located  very 
near  the  surface,  implying  substantial  differentia- 
tion of  the  material,  at  least  compositionally  or 
stratisfactionally  [sic].     It's  not  necessary  that 
it  had  have  to  be  stratified.     It  was  only  re- 
quired that  it  be  stratified  in  most  of  -  in  that 
most  of  the  isotopes  be  concentrated  in  the  upper 
layers  of  the  Moon.     I  guess  that's  about  what 
we've  got  on  the  heat  flow  at  the  present  time. 
Over. 


Tape  1T6/5 


LMP  Gordy,  does  he  indicate  where  his  minimum  tem- 

perature lay  -  zone  is  now  at  the  site? 

CC  Stand  ty.    Let  me  look  through  here. 

LMP  I  think  you  mentioned  something  the  other  night  - 

about  -  I  thought  you  said  2-1/2  meters,  hut  I'm 
not  sure . 

CC  Let  me  just  read  it  straight  off  here.    There  is 

some  words  to  that  effect,  hut  it  doesn't  sound 
like  2-1/2  meters.    At  a  large  scale  -  let's  see, 
he's  describing  a  viewgraph  here  -  the  surface 
temperature  at  the  time  of  this  sample  was  36O  de- 
grees Kelvin.     At  a  depth  of  about  15  centimeters, 
it  had  dropped  to  280.    At  about  65  centimeters, 
the  temperature  drops  to  23k,  and  that's  the  lowest 
temperature  we  see .    Below  that  depth ,  the  temper- 
atiire  begins  to  increase  again,  and  it's  257  at 
the  bottom  of  the  probes.  Over. 

LMP  Where  was  the  25^  again? 

CC  At  65  centimeters  below  the  surface. 

LMP  Okay.     That's  about  the  same,  I  think,  as  15- 

Very  good.    Some  of  our  double  cores  will  get  that 
deep. 

10  23  09  57    CC  Roger.    Okay,  the  TGE  has  produced  some  -  fair 

amount  of  excitement  around  here  -  and  interest . 
The  instrument  really  worked  beautifully.     It  had 
some  baro  switches  that  turned  it  on  for  temper- 
ature control  -  right  aft  -  during  lift-off  -  and 
so  it  had  3  days  to  stabilize  before  you  got  to 
Taurus-Littrow.     And  on  landing,  the  bias  measure- 
ment showed  that  the  bias  shift  was  extremely  small, 
so  they  feel  that  they  had  a  very  accurate  reading 
on  all  the  readings.     And  I  mentioned  the  other 
night  that  the  number  they  got  for  the  gravity 
field  at  the  landing  site  should  allow  them  to 
actually  revise  the  value  for  the  radius  of  the 
Moon  at  the  landing  site.    But  then  you  asked  me 
about  some  of  the  variations  in  reading  around  the 
valley  there.    Well,  it  turns  out  that  -  if  you 
call  the  landing  site  zero  on  the  scale  of  milli- 
gals  and  then  take  the  differences  from  the  landing 


site,  over  to  the  South  Massif,  you  have  a 
minus  36 ;  in  other  words ,  a  lesser  amount  of 
gravity.    And  all  these  ninnhers ,  lay  the  way,  are 
corrected  only  for  elevation,  and  there  are  some 
more  sophisticated  corrections  to  -  to  be  put  on 
them.     But  the  -  with  -  correcting  for  elevation, 
you  have  a  36-milligal  negative  anomaly  at  the 
South  Massif.     And  the  number  at  the  North  Massif 
was  a  minus  26.    And  there  is  very  little  dif- 
ference, within  a  milligal  or  so,  between  the 
North  Massif  and  the  Sculptured  Hills  site.  But 
you  can  see  that  there's  a  significant  difference 
between  the  landing  site  and  the  foothills  on 
both  sides.     The  Shorty  Crater  showed  a  slight 
positive  anomaly  compared  to  the  landing  site, 
but  it's  less  than  a  milligal,  which  is  sort  of  - 
you  start  to  think  "Well,  that  means  a  localized 
volcanic  center,"  but  it's  -  nobody's  really 
going  out  that  far  on  a  limb.    The  -  they  were 
especially  appreciative  of  the  2A  stop,  which 
was  -  let's  see  -  well,  it  verified  the  extremely 
sharp  gradient  of  the  anomalous  condition  from 
the  foothills  as  you  go  back  into  the  valley. 
The  2A  stop  -  I'm  trying  to  find  the  niimber  here  - 
Okay,  one's  a  minus  36  at  station  2  to  a  minus  29 
at  2A,  so  it's  -  it  really  changes  quickly  as  you 
get  away  from  the  -  the  mountains.    Okay,  he 
summar  -  summarized  his  feelings  by  saying  that  - 
the  negative  gravity  anomalies  which  were  measured 
right  at  the  South  Massif  and  the  North  Massif 
clearly  indicate  that  the  valley  is  filled  with  a 
higher  density  of  material  than  the  material  which 
makes  up  the  massif  so  that  if  the  material  under- 
lying the  floor  at  Taurus-Littrow  -  say,  is  basalt 
in  composition  and  has  a  density  of  about  3,  the 
material  which  makes  up  the  massif  has  a  substan- 
tially lower  density.    He  goes  on  to  say  that 
we're  not  sure  exactly  what  the  density  difference 
is,  but  if  it's  as  large  as  20  percent  difference, 
then  the  material  in  the  floor  of  the  valley  and 
the  -  well,  the  thickness  of  the  high-density 
material  in  the  valley  has  to  be  on  the  order  of 
about  1-1/2  kilometers  thick.    So  that's  a  -  I 
guess  that's  a  minimum  thickness,  assuming  the 
greatest  difference  in  densities. 


Tape  176/7 


10  23  1*+  38    LMP  That's  very  interesting,  Gordy, 

CC  Yes.    They're  really  -  everything  is  really  tied 

in  the  original  theories  on  the  structure  and 
makeup  of  the  valley.     Everything  seems  to  be  fall- 
ing right  in  there,  and  that's  what  has  -  has  the 
whole  crowd  of  scientists  around  here  really 
smiling.     Let's  see  -  let  me  find  out  what's  next 
here.    Okay.     It  was  Strangway's  turn  next,  and 
he  didn't  have  any  results  to  present,  of  course, 
because  he's  got  to  get  the  tape  back  first,  really. 
However,  the  orbital  sounder  -  the  command  module 
sounder  -  when  they  made  the  pass  across  the  site 
with  the  transmitter  on  -  Uo,  I  got  it  backwards. 
When  it  was  in  a  listening  mode,  listening  to  the 
ground  transmitter's  signals,  they  found  that  the 
signal  was  in  exactly  the  frequency  range  that  it 
was  supposed  to  be,  and  they  -  they  picked  up  the  - 
exactly  the  right  sequence  rate,  once  every  0.8  sec- 
ond.   And  when  they  calculated  the  power  levels, 
that  we  were  putting  out  just  exactly  the  1  watt 
that  we  were  expected  to  put  out.     So  that  -  that 
everything  looks  good  as  far  as  the  operation  of 
the  transmitter,  and  without  going  into  all  the 
details  which  you  know  as  well  as  I  do  about  the 
thermal  problems  on  the  receiver,  they're  still  - 
well,  he  sums  it  up,  we  have  no  reason  yet  to  be 
sweating  it  too  badly.     They're  very  hopeful  that 
when  the  tape  gets  back,  we'll  have  good  data  on 
at  least  some  of  the  legs,  and  they're  -  they're 
waiting  for  you  to  bring  it  to  them.    Dick  Kruse 
is  here,  and  he  mentioned  that  all  your  pains, 
Geno,  in  brushing  dust  off  of  it  probably  saved 
the  day.     If  it's  there,  it  was  just  due  to  that, 
that  it  did  work,  because  it  was  really  on  the 
ragged  edge  here . 

10  23  17  32    CC  About  what's  left,  I  think  -  is  the  field  geology 

interpretation.    And  what  I've  got  and  can  get 
tonight  because  there's  no  one  really  around  here 
from  the  geology  team  at  this  time  -  it's  about 
11  o'clock  at  night  -  is  so  rambling  that  I'm  not 
going  to  bother  to  read  it  to  you.     But  I  will 
leave  a  request  so  that  when  Parker  get  you  up  in 
the  morning,  maybe  he  can  summarize  that  or  answer 
any  questions  in  that  area  that  you  might  have. 
Over. 


Tape  176/ 8 


LMP  Okay,  Gordy.     Thank  you  very  inuch. 

CC  No  trouble  at  all. 

CMP  Hey,  Gordy.    Everything  under  control  at  the 

home front? 

CC  Yes,  Ron.    As  a  matter  of  fact,  talked  to  Jan  and, 

well,  her  words  to  summarize  the  -  the  whole  show 
that  you  put  on  this  afternoon  was  "out  of  this 
world,"  which  is,  I  guess,  a  pretty  good  way  to 
put  it.    Jon  and  Jaime  were  speechless  when  you 
waved  and  called  hello  to  them.    And  Jan  closed  hy 
saying  that  you  -  you're  going  to  have  to  hurry 
home  and  help  rebuild  the  wall  that  was  broken 
out  hy  a  huge  mob  of  people  that  were  in  your 
house  this  afternoon  during  the  EVA.  Over. 

CMP  Well,  that's  okay.    We  like  a  lot  of  friends,  and 

I'm  glad  everybody  enjoyed  it  and  pass  my  love 
on  -  to  everyone . 

CC  Okay,  will  do. 

CDR  Wha-t  about  the  other  side  of  the  tracks ,  Gordy? 

Got  any  words  from  over  there? 

CC  Hey  -  I  haven't  really  talked  to  anyone  in  the 

other  two  families  today.     So  I'm  sure  that  every- 
thing is  fine  or  we  would  have  heard  it,  but  I'll 
try  to  get  a  last-minute  update  on  that  before 
you  hit  the  sack, 

CDR  Okay,  thank  you. 

10  23  20  28    LMP  Gordy,  this  is  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Jack. 

LMP  Did  you  have  a  table  there  of  the  various  gravity 

readings,  and  if  so,  what  did  we  get  at  Van  Serg? 
In  your  -  relative  to  -  to  the  landing  site  - 
landing  point? 


Tape  176/9 


CC  No,  Jack.     I  don't  have  that.     I'll  ask,  but  I 

think  the  ones  I  gave  you,  the  four  places.  Shorty, 
Korth,  South,  and  Sculptured  Hills,  are  all  we 
got.    But  I'll  check. 

10  23  2k  03    LMP  Okay. 

10  23  2k  10    CC  America,  Houston.    The  rates  look  good  nov.  You're 

clear  to  spin  it  up. 

CMP  Okay , 

CDR  Gordy,  I'm  sorry.    I'm  going  to  move. 

CDR  Gordy,  this  isn't  my  day.     I'll  give  you  the  damp- 

ing again. 

CC  Okay,  fine. 

10  23  31  10    CC  17,  Houston.    We're  ready  for  spinup. 

CC  17 J  Houston.    We're  ready  for  spinup. 

CDR  Gordy  couldn't  hack  it  any  longer,  huh? 

CC  He's  getting  some  more  news  for  you. 

CDR  Okay,  we'll  try  and  get  it  right  this  time. 

10  23  33  08    CDR  I  think  I  got  it  for  you  this  time. 

CMP  Houston,  America.    Are  you  ready  for  REACQ  and 

NARROW  on  the  HIGH  GAIN? 

CC  That's  affirm. 

10  23  35  59     CMP  Okay,  you  have  it.     REACQ  and  NARROW. 

10  23  52  22    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  verify  the  present 

setting  of  the  high  gain  knobs.     We  want  minus  ^0 
and  a  plus  90. 

LMP  Gordy,  that's  verified. 

CC  Okay,  thank  you.     I  -  I  have  a  number  of  sort  of 

cleanup  items  before  going  to  bed  that  I  can  give 
you  any  time . 


Why  don't  you  go  ahead? 


Okay.    We'll  be  calling  you  for  the  IR,  OFF,  before 
you  go  to  sleep.    Want  to  leave  it  ON  right  up  to 
the  last  minute,  I  guess.    Let  me  see  if  we  can 
do  this  next  one.    Okay.    Why  don't  you  just  go 
ahead  and  do  this  one?         FMs  for  sleep  -  num- 
ber 1,  OFF,  and  3  in  AUTO. 

Okay,  we  got  that. 

And  there'll  be  no  cryo  stir  necessary.    You  can 
leave  the  OPTICs  power  switch  ON,  which  will  in- 
crease the  heat  input  and  keep  it  a  little  bit 
warmer  in  there.    You  won't  have  to  turn  that  off 
per  the  presleep  checklist,  if  you  don't  wish  to. 
We  are  going  to  change  the  biomed  -  - 

Okay. 

-  -  tomorrow,  in  deference  to  the  CDRs  intimated 
request  anyway,  and  let  the  CMP  take  the  next 
shift  where  in  the  Flight  Plan  it  now  calls  for 
the  CDR.     It  was  really  our  mistake  on  the  original 
change.     I  guess  there's  no  need  to  call  all  those 
detailed  Flight  Plan  changes  now  unless  you  want 
to  copy  them.    A  reminder  also,  prior  to  going 
to  sleep,  to  bump  the  cabin  up  to  5-7  with  the 
OPS  to  start  getting  the  gas  out  of  the  OPS .  And 
I  checked  with  the  remaining  two  homefronts.  Jack. 
Your  -  I  talked  to  your  mother  and  sister.  Every- 
body's fine  there,  and  they  watched  the  top  of 
your  head  a  little  bit  this  afternoon  on  the  EVA. 
They're  looking  forward  to  seeing  you  tomorrow  on 
the  press  conference  and  back  on  Earth  shortly 
thereafter.     I  got  one  from  Nassau  Bay,  too,  if 
the  commander's  listening. 

He's  listening. 

Okay,  Gene.     Your  mother  and  family  have  arrived. 
They  -  in  fact ,  they  just  walked  in  from  a  party 
with  Barbara.     They  all  wish  you  to  hiorry  home 
and  send  their  love.  Over. 


Tape  176/11 


10  23  59  22    LMP  Houston,  how  do  you  read  17? 

CC  Okay,  17.    Loud  and  clear  now.    Hov  me? 

LMP  You're  loud  and  clear. 

CC  Okay.    Did  you  -  did  you  get  the  homefront  update 

for  the  commander? 

CDR  Yes,  I  got  it,  Gordy,  and  that's  great  news  and 

news  I  wanted  to  hear,  and  you  can  return  iny  love 
to  them  for  me  if  you  would. 

CC  Sure  will.    That  completes  our  list  of  goodies 

with  the  exception  of  the  normal  presleep  stuff, 
and  we ' 11  be  standing  by  for  that  from  you . 

LMP  Okay.    And  you  can  tell  the  Arizona  people,  next 

time  you  talk  to  them,  I  tried  to  get  more  of 
myself  out  in  that  television  picture  but  the 
CMP  saw  to  it  that  my  umbilical  was  limited  in 
its  length. 

11  00  00  21    CC  Okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  177 /I 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUWD  VOICE  TRAITS CRIPTI ON 


11  GO  l8  13    CC  America,  Houston.     I'll  turn  you  over  to  the  crew 

astrologer  here.    Pleasant  dreams. 

LMP  Thank  you,  Gordy.     And  we  enjoyed  the  day  with  you. 

See  you  tomorrow. 

LMP  Well,  so  much  for  that  handover. 

CC  You  guys  call  while  we  were  unplugging? 

LMP  Haven't  you  learned  better  than  to  unplug  with  an 

interval  between? 

11  00  36  20.  LMP  Houston,  we're  going  to  turn  the  CABIN  FAN,  OFF, 

for  a  while.     Sorry;  it's  already  OFF. 

CC  Okay;  we  copy.     CABIK  FAM  is  already  OFF. 

LMP  That's  right.     It  turns  out  the  request  was  to  turn 

it  on,  so  we  will. 

CC  Okay,  understajid  you're  going  to  turn  the  CABIN 

fan,  ON.     I  think  that's  to  keep  it  a  little  bit 
warmer  in  there  for  you  guys , 

11  00  36  5U    LMP  MARK  it.     MARK  it. 

11  00  38  27    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  talk  to  Captain 

America,  please. 

CDR  Give  him  about  -  5  or  10  minutes  and  he'll  be  with 

you. 

CC  Okay;  have  him  give  us  a  call  when  he  gets  ready. 

11  00  38  1+1    CDR  Okay. 

11  01  18  50    CC  Apollo  17,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  talk  to  you  guys 

before  you  go  to  bed,  please. 

CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 


Tape  177/2 


CC  Okay,  we  panicked  there,  I  guess,  or  we  got  our  - 

change,  we  -  "because  we  saw  you  go  VOICE,  OFF, 
and  we  wanted  to  talk  to  you  gvys  about  two  or 
three  things  before  you  went  to  bed.     For  one 
thing,  we  don't  see  the  cabin  pumped  up  yet  with 
the  OPS  as  per  Plan  and  we  don't  have  the  onboard 
read-outs  yet,  and  we'd  like  to  find  out  who's 
going  to  be  on  the  comm  and  talk  to  Eon  about  his 
headset.     I  guess  the  general  concensus  of  opinion 
down  here,  unless  we  know  more  about  the  fix,  is 
there  are  some  possible  serious  consequences,  like 
blowing  up  the  audio  panel,  if  those  wires  did 
get  together  and  short  out,  depending  on  which 
wires  they  are.    So  there's  some  concern  about  that. 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 
CC 


Okay,  let's  get  you  the  read-out  first,  and  we're 
going  to  bounce  up  the  cabin  here  very  shortly 
with  the  OPS. 

Okay,  we'd  also  like  to  get  the  INFRARED  to  OFF, 
please  -  the  JR. 

Okay,  it's  coming  off  here  shortly.  Okay,  Bob,  the 
RC  -  RCS  reads  65.  57,  61,  and  60. 


11  01  21  1*6    CC  Okay,  copy  those. 

11  01  23  27    CDR  Houston,  are  you  reading  America? 


I'm  reading  you  now.    The  last  thing  we  got  from 
you  was  the  RCS  quantities.    We  didn't  get  the 
bat  quantities. 


CDR  You  haven't  heard  Ron  at  all? 

CC  No,  haven't  heard  Ron  a  bit. 

CC  Sounds  like  the  headset  -  - 

Well,  I'll  tell  him  to  try  again. 


No,  America,  we're  not  reading  Ron  at  all,  right 
now. 


Tape  177/3 


CDR  Okay,  he's  been  on  the  lightweight  headset  talking 

to  you  all  this  time.    Wait  a  minute,  he's  going 
to  check  a  couple  switches. 

CC  Okay.     Which  headset  is  broken?    The  Snoopy? 

CDR  Yes,  Ron's  -  Ron's  Snoopy  helmet. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Hey,  are  you  reading  me  now,  Houston? 

CC  I  read  you  loud  and  clear  now,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  I'm  wearing  the  lightweight  headset,  now. 


On  the  coiran  carrier,  there's  a  whole  bunch  of 
wires,  about  eight  of  them  -  looks  like  they're 
twisted  pairs,  you,  know,  twisted  in  fours  really. 
■  They  come  up  through  the  thing.     And  two  of  those 

eight  wires  are  cut  -  are  broken  in  two.    The  hot 
end,  or  the  end  that  comes  up  from  the  plug  going 
toward  the  headset  -  those  two  wires  both  come  out 
individually  and  individually  taped,  each  one  of 
them.    And  then  the  whole  group  -  you  know,  I 
bent  them  out  of  the  way  so  they  wouldn't  be  touch- 
ing anything.     So  they  wouldn't  touch  insulation 
or  tape.    I  bent  them  out  of  the  way  and  taped 
the  whole  side  of  it  just  to  keep  the  rest  of  them 
from  breaking  in  two,  and  it  looks  like  a  pretty 
good  fix  on  the  thing,  really.     However,  if  you 
have  any  concern  about  blowing  the  audio  panel  - 
I'll  just  go  ahead  and  wear  the  lightweight  headset. 

11  01  25  22    CC  Okay,  Ron.    Yes,  the  concern  here  is  not  only  which 

wires  they  are  -  the  potential  does  exist  if  one 
of  those  shorts  to  ground  to  blow  the  audio  panel 
or  at  least  a  circuit  breaker,  depending  upon 
which  wire  it  is.     I  gather  that  what  you've 
done  -  is  that  you  haven't  wired  the  broken  wires 
back  together,  but  it's  just  sort  of  covered  the 
bare  leads  and  wired  them  out  of  the  way.  Is 
that  right? 


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CMP  Yes,  that's  correct.    It  was  too  close  to  the  - 

there  is  a  stiff  piece  of  plastic  that  comes  out 
of  the  headset  itself,  out  of  the  bottom  of  the 
left  earset,  and  it's  broken  off  too  close  to  the 
bottom  of  it  there  to  -  to  strip  the  wires  down 
and  wire  them  together  at  all. 

CC  Okay.    Roger  on  that.    I  guess  -  let  us  think  about 

it  here  overnight.    Offhand,  our  opinion  is,  as 
long  as  you've  got  a  spare  headset,  let's  wear 
the  spare  headset  -  that  spare  meaning  a  light- 
weight.    If  you're  going  to  be  on  comm  tonight, 
I  guess  we  offhand  suggest  wearing  the  lightweight 
tonight.    Over.    How  does  that  strike  you? 

CMP  Okay.    Yes,  no  problem.    I  won't  be  on  comm  tonight, 

but  I'll  be  wearing  the  lightweight  headset  anyhow. 
The  only  time  I  was  thinking  about  it  -  wearing 
the  other  one  at  all  -  would  be  for  entry,  and 
there's  no  problem  there.    I'll  just  stick  to  the 
lightweight  headset  around  my  neck  and  put  that 
one  around  my  ears  just  to  use  as  a  bump  pad, 
is  all. 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


CC 


CDR 


Okay;  let  us  think  about  it  overnight,  and  we'll 
talk  to  some  people  about  it.     Let's  see,  is 
Jack  going  to  be  on  the  headset  tonight  and  the 
biomed,  both? 

Yes,  Jack  will  be  on  tonight  with  the  biomed  and 
the  headset. 

Okay.    We'd  like  to  get  one  more  valve  check  there, 
America.     Like  to  check  our  WASTE  WATER  TANK  INLET 
valve  to  AUTO.    EECOM  says  he  is  in  a  flat  portion 
and  he  can't  verify  that  right  now  by  buildup. 

Okay,  stand  by  1. 


11  01  27  57    CDR  WASTE  TANK  INLET  is  in  AUTO,  Bob. 


Okay,  thank  you  on  that.  Gene.    And  we  did  not  get 
the  BAT  read-out  for  the  onboard  read-out  for  the 
night,  BAT  C  and  pyro  BATs  A  and  B. 

Okay,  guess  you  weren't  reading.    We're  at  36.5, 
36.9,  36.9,  in  that  order. 


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CC  Okay,  we  copy  that.    And  let  me  ask  you  a  question 

here,  Gene.     Right  now  you're  an  hour  behind  get- 
ting to  sleep-    Do  you  want  to  sleep  the  8  hours 
or  get  up  hy  the  Flight  Plan? 

CDR  No,  let's  get  up  per  the  Flight  Plan.    We're  very 

much  aware  of  -  of  that;  we've  just  been  doing 
some  restowage  and  a  few  other  things  around  here. 
But  let's  get  up  per  the  Flight  Plan  and  fine. 

CC  Okay.    We'll  talk  to  you  in  the  morning.    As  soon 

as  the  cabin  is  pumped  up,  you're  GO  for  sleep  and 
you  can  turn  VOICE  back  OFF,  at  your  convenience. 

CDR  Okay,  you'll  see  the  cabin  p\amped  up,  we'll  go  to 

5.T  and  turn  the  OPS  back  OFF. 

CC  Roger.    We'll  be  watching. 

CDR  Okay,  babe.     Take  care. 

11  01  28  5T    CC  See  you  in  the  morning. 

11  01  3k  33    CDR  We're  looking  at  5.T  in  the  cabin. 

CC  So  are  we. 

CDR  Bob,  are  you  going  to  want  to  do  that  again 

tomorrow? 

CC  Yes,  Gene.     I  will  do  it  again  prior  to  finish 

emptying  the  OPS. 

11  01  35  12    CDR  Okay. 


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Tape  182/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUMD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

11  08  20  01  (Music:    We've  Only  Just  Begun  by  The  Carpenters) 

11  08  23  09    CC  Good  morning,  America.     This  is  Houston. 

LMP  Good  heavens.     It  sounded  like  Bob  Parker. 

CC  Roger.    And  in  case  you  didn't  recognize  it,  that 

was  "It's  Only  Just  the  Beginning." 

LMP  Or  words  to  that  effect. 

CC  And,  Jack,  if  you  give  us  a  call  when  all  three  of 

you  get  in  the  headsets,  we've  got  something  else 
to  play  for  you  this  morning. 

LMP  You  have  a  call. 

CC  Say  again. 

SC  ...  Houston,  good  morning, 

LMP  I  just  gave  you  a  call. 

CC  Okay.     We'll  cue  up  something  else  for  you  guys. 

And,  Ron,  this  was  something  that  was  recorded 
over  at  your  house  yesterday  morning.  I  think 
you'll  recognize  it. 

CMP  (Laughter)  I'll  have  to  wait  and  see. 

(Music:     Christmas  carol  recorded  by  Ron  Evans' 
neighbors ) 

Jon  Hi ,  Dad. 

Evans 

11  08  27  10    CC         .    And,  America,  if  we  could  do  some  business  this 

morning.     At  275:10  -  we'll  give  you  a  hack  on  it  - 
We  need  UV  COVER  to  go  to  CLOSE,  and  we'll  give 
you  a  call  on  that  one.     It's  about  3  minutes. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  Okay.     One  minute  to  COVER  CLOSE  -  UV,  that  is. 


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CMP  Hey,  Houston;  America.     Sounds  like  people  are 

getting  in  the  Christinas  spirit  around  the  Houston 
area  there. 

CC  That's  affirm.     It's  a  little  bit  warmer  this  morn- 

ing, Lut  it  still  feels  and  looks  a  lot  like  Christ- 
mas down  here. 

CDR  Well,  Boh,  it  feels  and  looks  a  lot  like  Christmas 

up  here,  too. 

IMP  Matter  of  fact,  the  LEB  reported  a  temperature  of 

about  a  minus  2  last  night  (laiighter). 

CC  Okay;  and  15  seconds  to  UV  COVER  CLOSE.  Five 

seconds. 

11  08  29  59     CC  MARK,  UV  COVER,  CLOSE. 

LMP  It's  closed. 

CC  Copy  that. 

LMP  Yes,  the  LEB  was  cloudy,  cold,  and  snowy  last 

night. 

CC  Snowing  too,  hey?    We're  showing  you  6l  degrees 

in  the  cabin  this  morning,  with  a  suit  temperature 
of  U8  degrees. 

LMP  Glad  I'm  not  in  those  suits. 

CC  You  could  have  crawled  inside  the  L-shaped  bag, 

I  guess. 

CC  Okay.     And  America,  we'd  also  like  to  get  BAT  A 

to  CHAEGE. 

LMP  That's  in  work  right  now.  Bob,     Thanks  for  the 

call, 

CC  You're  welcome  for  the  answer. 

LMP  Well,  we're  tiying  to  keep  your  spirits  up  today. 

LMP  Hey,  Bob,  what's  h  degrees  equal  in  distance  from 

the  Earth? 


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CC  This  is  the  new  CAPCOM  one.     Say  again  the  ques- 

tion.   Four  degrees  equals  distance  from  the  Earth? 

IMP  Yes,  sir.    What  does  k  degrees  equal  in  miles  from 

the  Earth? 

CC  Eetro  says  that  U  degrees  essential  angle  equals 

9kK.     You  guys  are  out  at  about  125K  right  now. 

LMP  Okay,  Boh,  I  was  looking  at  the  Flight  Plan,  and 

it  said  field  of  view  is  k  degrees. 

CC  And  we're  going  to  have  a  network  handover.  We 

may  "be  a  momentarily  -  momentary  dropout. 

11  08  3^+  33    LMP  Okay. 

11  08  51  26    LMP  Houston,  IT- 

CC  IT,  did  you  call? 

LMP  That's  affirm.     I've  got  some  reports  for  you,  if 

you're  ready  to  copy. 

CC  Okay.    We've  all  set. 

11  08  51  U6    LMP  Okay.     CDR  menu  -  I'll  try  negative  reporting. 

He  did  not  eat  three  apricot  cereal  cubes,  pears. 
And  at  l\mch  he  did  not  eat  the  half  a  cereal  bar. 
And  at  dinner  he  did  not  eat  tomato  soup,  half  a 
hamburger,  and  the  date  fruitcake.     On  lunch  he 
had  also  -  positive  now  -  lemonade,  two  pecans, 
and  one- fourth  of  a  chocolate  bar.     Okay.    And  - 
last  night,  he  had  about  5  hours  of  fair  sleep, 
no  medication,  and  2-1/2  cans  of  water.     And  his 
PRD  is  1T06Q?    That's  right,  6o.     Okay.     For  the 
LMP,  day  12:     He  did  not  eat  for  breakfast,  pears. 
For  lunch,  looks  like  he  ate  it  all.     For  dinner, 
he  did  not  eat  the  tomato  soup,  half  a  hamburger, 
mustard,  pudding,  and  that's  it.     And  add  to 
breakfast  another  cup  of  coffee  -  bag  of  coffee; 
excuse  me.     And  the  lunch,  an  orange  drink,  an 
orange-pineapple,  another  coffee,  graham  cracker 
cubes  -  four  of  them,  two  pecans ,  and  one-fourth 
of  a  chocolate  bar.     And  -  his  PRD  is  2^188,  and 
6  hours  intermittent  sleep,  1-1/2  cans  of  water, 
and  took  one  Lomotil  last  night,  just  as  we  were 
turning  in,  as  a  result  of  the  Evans  affair  catch- 
ing up  with  the  LMP.    The  CMP  -  negative  reporting 


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again  -  did  not  eat  sausage,  fruit  cocktail, 
orange  beverage.    And  for  liinch,  he  did  not  eat 
the  peaches.     And  for  dinner,  he  did  not  eat 
tomato  soup  and  the  caramel  candy.    Add  to  break- 
fast, coffee,  four  sugar  cookies  and  four  jelly 
candies.     That's  for  breakfast.     To  lunch,  add 
lemonade,  coffee,  two  pecans,  and  one- fourth  of  a 
chocolate  bar  -  one-half  of  a  chocolate  bar;  excuse 
me.    Okay.    His  PRD  is  I5058.    He  had  about  5  hours 
of  fair  sleep  and  two  sniffs  of  nose  drops  and  two 
Lomotils  yesterday.    And  he  had  five  cans  of  water. 
And  that  should  do  it ,  Bob . 

11  08  56  26    CC  Roger,  Jack. 

LMP  Thank  you  for  your  indulgence. 

CC  Thank  you  for  your  report.    We  appreciate  it. 

LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Go  ahead. 

LMP  We  thought  we'd  warm  up  the  cabin.    And  if  I  recall 

correctly,  the  -  you  approve  of  us  putting 
INVERTER  3  onto  MAIN  A  and  going  to  MANUAL  on  the 
TEMP  IN  and  taking  the  -  EVAP  TEMP  up  to  about 
59  degrees . 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

LMP  Okay,  Houston.     INVERTER  3  is  going  onto  MAIN  A. 

CC  Roger.     We're  watching  it. 

LMP  Okay. 
11  08  58  12    LMP  MRK  it. 

LMP  And  -  Stand  by. 

11  08  58  52    LMP  TEMP  IN  is  MANUAL. 

11  09  Ok  16    LMP  Okay,  Houston,  I  think  we're  pretty  close.  We're 

showing  about  62.     We'll  watch  it  a  little  bit; 
and  if  it  doesn't  come  down,  we'll  tweak  it  again. 


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CC  Roger,  Jack.    And  the  ground  is  showing  about 

60  degrees. 

LMP  Okay. 

LMP  Bob,  EECOM's  procedure's  almost  like  having  a  fire 

in  the  fireplace. 

11  09  07  31    CC  Roger.     Glad  you're  comfortable. 

11  09  17  53    CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead,  Bob. 

CC  How  would  you  like  a  quick  look  at  sports  here 

and  then  into  the  news  summary  while  you're  having 
your  breakfast? 

LMP  We'd  like  the  whole  thing. 

11  09  18  11    CC  Well,  I  guess  that  we  all  assume  maybe  you're  like 

the  rest  of  us  and  turn  to  your  sport  page  first 
sometimes.     So  we  thought  we'd  recap  the  pro  foot- 
ball action  yesterday,  in  a  rather  strange  day, 
since  there  were  only  -  only  two  games  that  really 
made  any  difference.    And  I  think  the  scores  kind 
of  showed  the  day.     In  the  American  Conference 
playoff  games  coming  up  next  weekend,  Oakland  will 
play  at  Pittsburgh.    Pittsburgh  getting  into  the 
playoffs  for  the  first  time  in  kO  years .  The 
Cleveland  Browns  will  take  on  the  undefeated  Miami 
Dolphins,  who  have  won  ik  straight.     In  the  National. 
Conference,  Dallas  will  be  at  San  Francisco  Satur- 
day, and  Green  Bay  plays  at  Washington  on  Sunday. 
Quickly  recapping  some  of  the  scores  from  yesterday. 
On  that  sad,  sad  one  here  in  Houston,  Cincinnati 
rolled  over  the  Oilers,  6I  to  17.    There  were  three 
touchdowns  scored  in  the  foiirth  quarter  within  less 
than  5  minutes  of  play,  all  on  interceptions  -  on 
-   the  part  of  Cincinnati.     New  York  Giants,  it  says, 
upset  Dallas  23  to  3.     I  question  the  upset  since 
Dallas  was  already  in  the  playoffs ;  and,  in  what 
I  watched,  it  looked  like  they  were  aware  that  they 
were  already  in  the  playoffs.    Buffalo  upset  Wash- 
ington 2k  to  17.     And  again  it's  a  questionable 
upset  because  0.  J.  Simpson  had  a  great  day,  and 
Larry  Brown  from  Washington  was  kept  on  the  bench 


for  the  whole  game,     Oakland,  28,  over  Chicago,  21; 
Detroit,  3^,  over  Los  Angeles,  17.    Los  Angeles' 
hopes  for  any  playoff  berth  had  been  knocked  out 
by  San  Francisco's  win  on  Saturday,  and  it  looked 
like  they  played  that  way  on  Sunday.  Cleveland, 
in  a  real  tough  one  up  in  New  York  with  30-knbt 
winds  and  a  -  gale  -  gale-force  winds  and  lots  of 
snow  and  cold,  defeated  New  York  Jets,  26  to  10. 
Green  Bay,  30,  over  New  Orleans,  20,  in  a  tough 
one,  which  saw  two  -  two  touchdowns  being  scored 
off  of  blocked  punts.    Kansas  City,  17,  over  Atlanta 
lit.     And,  again,  Atlanta's  chances  for  a  playoff 
berth  had  been  wiped  out  on  Saturday;  and,  appar- 
ently, they  played  that  way  on  Sunday.    Denver,  U5, 
over  New  England,  21;  St.  Louis,  2k ^  over  Philadel- 
phia, 23. 


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Tape  183/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRAHSCEIPTION 


11  09  20  31    CC  Pittslaurgh  defeated  San  Diego,  2k  to  2.     On  Satur- 

day, Miami  had  taken  Baltimore,  16  to  0,  and,  as  I 
previously  mentioned,  San  Francisco  defeated  Min- 
nesota on  Saturday,  20  to  17 •     Just  one  little 
note.  Jack,  you  might  te  interested  in  this  morn- 
ing's paper,  concerning  the  New  Orleans  Saints. 
Dave  Parks  from  the  New  Orleans  Saints  has  announced 
his  retirement,  and  he  kind  of  took  a  rap  at  the 
Saints  in  claiming  that  they  were  a  team  that  did 
not  want  to  win,  and  that  he  was  retiring  unless 
they  woiild  trade  him  to  a  winner.     It  sound  like 
our  friend  over  there  might  have  some  problems 
this  winter  come  contract  time.     In  pro  "basketball 
last  night,  the  Houston  Rockets  beat  the  Cleveland 
Cavaliers,  110  to  IO9.     Jack  Marin  had  35  points, 
Mike  Newlin  had  3^*.     In  college  basketball,  UCLA 
remains  number  1  in  the  latest  ratings.  Second- 
ranked  Florida  State  was  beaten  this  weekend  by 
Princeton,  61  to  59'     Third-ranked  Maryland  won, 
as  did  fo\irth-ranked  Martjuette,  fifth-ranked  Min- 
nesota, and  number  6,  North  Carolina  State.  Indiana 
is  rated  15th,  Houston  is  l6th.     We  can't  find 
Purdue,  Kansas,  or  Cal  Tech  in  the  ratings  right 
now.     There's  one  bowl  game  tonight.     Iowa  State, 
who  has  taken  a  five-game  losing  streak  into  the 
Liberty  Bowl,  will  meet  Georgia  Tech  at  Memphis, 
Tennessee.     In  local  hockey,  the  Aeros  and  the 
Los  Angeles  Sharks  of  the  World  Hockey  Association 
battled  to  a  ^  to  ^  tie. 

11  09  21  59    CC  Now,  for  page  1  news.     The  outlook  for  a  quick 

peace  settlement  in  Vietnam  has  taken  an  apparent 
turn  for  the  worse.     The  Hanoi  government  radio 
announced  last  night  that  U.S.  planes  have  dropped 
more  mines  in  Haiphong  harbor  and  has  also  carried 
out  bombing  and  rocket  attacks  on  the  city  of 
Haiphong.     There  was  no  immediate  comment  from 
Washington  on  the  charges .     The  snag  in  the  Paris 
peace  talks  apparently  hinges  on  a  few  key  points, 
according  to  press  association  reports.  Among 
them,  the  North  Vietnamese  will  not  accept  the  idea 
of  two  separate  Vietnamese  states  and  the  method 
of  policing  a  truce,  the  two- Vietnam  policy  being 
the  major  stumbling  block.     The  weather  here  is 


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making  news.     Yesterday's  reading  at  Intercontinental 
Airport  vas  a  frigid  22  degrees.     Downtown  Houston 
was  32.     The  airport  reading  was  the  lowest  since 
1932.    Up  north  in  the  upper  Midwest  and  northeast, 
it ' s  going  to  be  a  white  Christmas ,  and  more  snow 
is  moving  into  the  area.     Chicago  had  a  low  of 
5  above  S\inday;  Kansas  City,  19;  and  Albuquerque, 
18.    Anne  Armstrong,  long  a  power  in  Texas  Republi- 
can politics,  is  reportedly  about  to  be  named  to  a 
high  post  in  the  Nixon  administration.     Harry  Truman 
still  clings  to  life.     The  88-year-old  Presi  - 
88-year-old  former  President  is  holding  his  own, 
according  to  his  doctors.     Debris  found  floating 
in  the  Gtolf  of  Mexico  off  the  west  coast  of  Florida 
has  been  identified  as  that  of  a  Coast  Guard  Heli- 
copter that  crashed.    Earlier  the  chopper  had  res- 
cued four  fishermen  from  a  sinking  shrimp  trawler. 
The  helicopter  was  headed  back  to  Saint  -  Saint 
Petersburg  when  it  went  down  with  the  four  fisher- 
men and  the  crew  of  four.     It's  a  lot  safer  up 
there  where  you  are  than  on  the  Texas  highways . 
The  State  Highway  Patrol  reported  a  high  number  of 
serious  accidents  on  Texas  roads  this  weekend.  A 
Houston  newspaper  reports  that  industrial  demand 
for  Trinity  River  system  water  will  not  produce 
enough  money  to  finance  the  project  and  that  the 
City  of  Houston's  water  and  industrial  district 
funds  will  have  to  make  up  the  difference.  Mean- 
while, the  Clear  Lake  City  Water  Authority  is 
tossing  aroimd  a  proposal  that  would  require  de- 
velopers to  pay  50  percent  of  the  cost  of  all  lat- 
eral water  and  sewer  lines.     Up  around  Conroe,  in 
Montgomery  County,  a  transformer  blew  up  Sunday 
morning  and  electrical  power  went  out  for  several- 
hours.     Several  thousand  homes  were  affected.  Bay- 
town  was  the  scene  of  four  armed  robberies  Sunday. 
Four  business  establishments  were  hit  in  a  lU-minute 
period.     The  masked  guimien  got  about  $500  cash. 
No  one  was  injured.     And  a  final  note,  today  in 
history,  actress  Betty  Grable  is  56  years  old. 
That's  from  your  news  editor,  Jim  Kukowski, 


CDR 


Thaxik  you  for  the  news ,  Bob . 


LMP 


And  notice  the  disclaimer. 


CC 


( Laught  er ) 


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CDR  And  you're  right,  the  traffic's  not  too  thick  up 

here,  as  a  matter  of  fact. 

CC  Yes ,  I  was  wishing  that  -  - 

CDR  We've  "been  looking  for  the  big  man  with  the  white 

gray  beard. 

CC  -  -  I  was  kind  of  wishing  it  would  get  a  little 

thicker  up  there  one  of  these  days. 

CDR  It  will. 

CC  I'm  counting  on  it. 

CDR  Hang  in  there,  babe. 

11  09  25  35    CC  It  looks  like  we're  going  to  have  some  good  foot- 

ball to  watch  next  week,  and  I  think  they're  going 
to  have  a  pretty  light  schediie  for  you  all  -  so  - 
until  after  the  holidays  -  and  we  ought  to  be  able 
to  sit  back  and  relax  a  bit. 

CC  And  one  additional  weather  report,  I'm  sure  you're 

interested  in.    The  weather  in  your  primary  landing 
area  is  looking  great,  and  we  anticipate  no  weather 
avoidance  maneuvers  whatsoever.     Things  are  great 
out  there.     And  I'm  thinking  of  going  out  and  en- 
listing the  Apollo  IT  chaplain,  so  we  can  maybe 
get  some  warmer  weather  for  your  arrival  back  here 
on  Thursday. 


CDR 


CC 


Well,  I  guess  if  -  if  anyone  can  do  it,  he  can  do 
it,  if  you  can  find  him. 

He's  -  he's  been  around.     We've  seen  his  picture 
a  number  of  times  in  the  paper  over  at  -  visiting 
your  house,  there,  and  rooting  us  home. 


CDR  I  thought  I  told  him  to  stay  away  from  there.  Only 

kidding,  he's  always  a  welcome  addition. 

CC  Roger. 


■CDR  And  I  might  add,  he  usually  is. 


Tape  lQ3/k 


11  09  28  05    CC  I've  got  a  telegram  here  that  was  sent  out  to  the 

U.S.S.  Ticon  -  Ticonderogas  I  thought  you  might  be 
interested  in.     Coming  up  on  antenna  switch,  I'll 
read  it  to  you  in  a  minute. 

CC  Are  you  ready  for  this  telegram  that  was  sent  out 

today? 

CC  Okay,  would  you  like  to  hear  the  contents  of  this 

telegram  that  went  out  of  here  today  to  the  U.S.S. 

Ticonderoga? 

CDR  Yes,  sir. 

CC  It's  to  the  U.S.S.  Ticonderoga,  passed  to  the  NASA 

Team  Leader.     It  says,  "Stullken,  we  know  exactly 
where  the  spacecraft  is,  and  we  know  exactly  where 
it's  going  to  land.     Now,  if  you  can  figure  out  ap- 
proximately where  you  are,  we  will  he  in  good 
shape.     Pull  yourself  together,  and  move  50  feet 
from  the  target  point.     Let's  end  this  program 
right."     Signed,  The  Guys  in  the  Trench,  MCC,  Houston. 

CDR  Beautiful,  Boh,  beautiful. 

CC  Thought  you'd  like  that  one. 

11  09  1+0  30    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  you  to  stop  the  roll 

that  you're  in  right  now,  and  stop  it  at  roll  of 
60  degrees.     Be  convenient  if  you'd  do  it  right 
now.     Help  us  keep  us  on  Flight  Plan  here. 

CDR  Six  degrees,  okay.     Won't  go  to  ih  - 

CC  No,  60,  6o,  six  zero,  six  zero,  you're  right  about 

there. 

CDR  That's  affirm.     Six  zero,  I'll  stop  it  now. 

11  09  ho  56    CC  Okay,  and  there's  some  HIGH  GAIN  angles  that  go 

with  that:     PITCH,  minus  5i+ ;  YAW,  225.     You're  on 
HIGH  GAIN  now,  so  unless  you  lose  lock  you  shouldn't 
have  any  problem. 

11  09  hj  59     CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  have  the  UV  COVER, 

OPEN,  now,  if  somebody's  over  there. 


Tape  183/5 


LMP  All  right ,  Bob .     We  may  not  be  by  that  part  of 

spacecraft  for  a  couple  of  more  hours.    Can  you 
hold  off? 

CC  Well,  we  don't  mind.    Although  if  somebody's  over  - 

it's  convenient,  we'd  sure  like  it. 

LMP  Okay,  I'll  make  a  special  trip. 

11  09  1+8  37    IMP  UV  COVER  is  OPEN. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

11  09  h9  20     CMP  Okay,  Houston.     There  are  the  torquing  angles. 

And  if  you're  satisfied,  I'll  go  ahead  and  torq.ue. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.    We've  got  them,  and  you're  clear  to 

torque . 

11  09  k9  35    CMP  Okay,  torqued  at  29=30. 

11  09  50  27    CC  America,  Houston.     Now  that  you're  not  eating  and 

working,  we've  got  a  couple  of  configuration  on 
the  Kg  tanks  and  the  0^  tank  heaters,  we'd  like  to 

have  accomplished. 
LMP  Okay,  Bob.     I  was  just  over  there. 

CC  Roger. 
LMP  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  tank  3  FANS  to  OFF;        tank  2  VMS  to  ON. 

11  09  51  07    LMP  Okay,  3  is  OFF,  and  2  is  ON. 

CC  Roger.     And  0^  tank  2  and  tank  1  HEATERS  to  AUTO, 

if  they're  not  there. 

11  09  51  23    LMP  Okay,  you  want  1  and  2  to  AUTO.     They're  going. 

CC  Okay,  and  anytime  this  morning,  we  would  like  to 

get  an  OPS  read-out  -  whenever  it's  convenient  on 
that . 

LMP  Okay,  Bob.     It  was  1000  after  we  stopped  bleeding 

last  night  and  I'll  check  it  again  in  a  little  while. 


Tape  183/6 


CC  Okay.     That  somds  good  enough  now.    ¥e  just  needed 

the  reading,  so  we  coiild  figure  out  what  to  do 
with  it.     You  might  he  interested  in  your  consuma- 
ties.     Right  now  on  the  RCS,  you're  right  on  the 
Flight  Plan  at  51  percent  remaining.     Your  oxygen 
tanks  are  all  either  on  the  Flight  Plan,  or  Just 
slightly  above  it,  or  within  the  noise  level  - 
maybe  a  tad  below  it  -  you're  just  right  on  for 
all  intents  and  purposes.    You're  in  good  shape, 
and  your  hydrogen  is  in  good  shape.    You're  in 
good  shape  on  all  your  consumables. 

CDR  Bob,  we  got  a  GO  to  start  our  dumps? 

CC  Say  again. 

11  09  53  39    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America.     Have  we  got  a  GO  to  com- 

mence our  diunps? 

CC  That's  affirmative,  and  on  your  waste  water  dump  - 

we  only  want  it  dumped  down  to  ^5  percent  on  your 
gage  -  1+5  percent  on  your  gage. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     I  guess  we're  reading  about  52  percent 

now,  so  we'll  dump  a  little  bit. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

11  09  55  01    CC  And  for  whoever  is  the  keeper  of  the  Flight  Plan 

this  morning,  we've  got  a  couple  of  changes  to 
your  Flight  Plan,  in  addition  to  those  we  called 
as  you  were  eating  there,  so  we've  got  a  couple 
additions  to  it  -  or  changes. 

CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  Okay.     The  first  one  is  at  281:02  -  281:02.  Change 

the  call  "Manually  roll  left"  to  "Manually  roll  left 
60  degrees  to  a  roll  angle  of  O7I."    We  want  60  de- 
grees in  a  roll  angle  of  07I. 

CDR  Okay;  we  got  it. 

CC  Okay.     At  28l:10,  change  register  2  of  NOUN  78 

there  to  minus  019.7^. 

CDR  Okay;  got  it. 


Tape  183/T 


CC  That's  it  for  the  Flight  Plan  updates  this 

morning,  so  far. 

11  09  56  27    CDR  Okay,  thank  you.    And  the  waste  water  is  dumped 

to  li5. 

CC  Roger.     We  see  it. 

11  10  13  52    CDR  Houston,  America.     We're  about  to  maneuver. 

CC  Okay,  we're  standing  by. 

11  10  15         CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Jack,  we're  trying  -  This  is  for  Jack  -  we're 

trying  to  consolidate  and  think  through  what  your 
request  was  for  some  sort  of  a  geology  surface 
update.    We  -  we're  just  wondering  if  maybe  you 
don't  have  the  better  material  at  your  hands  there 
than  we've  got  down  here  as  far  any  conclusions  or 
preliminary  estimates  might  be. 

LMP  Okay,  I  just  thought  that  you  guys  may  have  had 

some  new  ideas .     We  had  a  good  briefing  last  night 
from  Gordy  on  the  surface  experiments.     I  guess 
we  might  want  to  be  updated  on  the  orbital  experi- 
ments, if  there's  anything  new.    And  field  geology, 
I  guess  we  got  a  pretty  good  feeling  for  it,  but 
I  thought  they  might  have  had  some  new  ideas,  or 
something  along  that  line. 

CC  Well,  I'm  sure  they  do,  and  I  don't  mean  to  short- 

change our  geology  -  geology  back  room.  Jack,  but 
on  the  other  hand,  I  think  -  I  think  really  we're 
just  waiting  to  get  the  answers  from  you  or  tie 
up  maybe  their  thoughts  with  you.    And  I,  you 
know,  from  a  bystander's  standpoint,  if  I  read 
you  anything  that  they've  -  maybe  conclusions  that 
they  may  have  made,  we  just  may  be  fudging  the  data 
because  there ' s  -  - 

LMP  I'm  not  looking  for  conclusions,  I'm  looking  for 

ideas . 


Tape  183/8 


Mcc  Hey,  Jack. 

IMP  Tell  them  don't  -  don't  worry  about  it.     You  know, 

I  just  thought  they  might  have  something  to  say. 

MCC  Yes,  they  got  plenty  to  say.  Jack.     But  they're 

down  here  and  they  can  say  it,  and  I  think  what 
you  ought  to  say  up  there  is  what  you're  familiar 
with  and  Just  confine  it  to  that. 

LMP  Oh,  you  can  count  on  that,  Deke,  I  just  like  to 

think  about  things. 

MCC  Roger,  you're  going  to  have  lots  of  time  to  do  that. 

CC  We'd  like  AUTO  and  high  gain. 

11  10  IT  56    LMP  Okay,  you  got  AUTO, 

CC  Thank  you. 

11  10  23  09    CC  America,  Houston,     We  may  have  not  "been  looking 

at  the  right  displays  at  the  right  time,  but  we 
didn't  see  an  0^  purge.     Did  you  do  0^  fuel  cell 
purge  ? 

LMP  Sorry  about  that.  Bob,     I  misiinder stood.  I 

thought  -  I  see  it  now  -        and  0^.     I'll  go  into 
that  now, 

CC  Okay,     We'd  appreciate  it.     We're  just  keeping 

you  honest. 

LMP  That's  what  you  need  to  do, 

CDR  By  the  way.  Bob,  that  -  59  degrees  on  the  manual 

temp  control  setting  made  it  very  comfortable  in 
here . 

CC  Real  fine  -  real  fine. 

11  10  2k  57    CC  We'd  like  OMNI  Delta  -  OMNI  Delta. 

11  10  30  10    LMP  Okay,  Bob.     I'm  up  to  date  on  the  0^  purges  now. 


Tape  183/9 


CC  Roger,  Jack. 

11  10  50  53    CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  About  15  minutes  or  so  ago,  we  noticed  -  or 

detected  a  transfer  on  your  ECS  FLOW  CONTROL 
proportioning  valve  from  number  1  to  number  2 
and  we  were  wondering  if  the  switch,  ECS  RADIATOR 
FLOW  CONTROL  AUTO  switch,  is  still  in  the  AUTO 
position.    And  if  it  is  in  the  AUTO  po  -  - 

LMP  It  is  in  the  AUTO  position.     And  we  see  the  "2" 

here  also. 

CC  Okay,  we're  -  we'd  like  to  just  leave  everything 

like  it  is,  and  we'd  like  to  go  off  and  study  this 
awhile.     And  we  don't  -  - 

LMP  Okay. 

11  10  51  35    CC  -  -  anticipate  any  problem  here  and  it's  - 

number  2  which  should  work  as  good  as  number  1. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  18U/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

11  11  2k  5U    CMP  Houston,  America,  here.    We'll  probably  VERB  k9 

to  the  thermal  attitude. 

CC  Roger.     We're  standing  by  waiting  for  it. 

CMP  Okay . 

11  11  31  06    LMP  Houston,  17-     The  OPS  is  now  reading  1100  1100. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     We've  got  that  data. 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Ron,  if  -  if  you're  stowing  the  OPS,  ve  might  want 

to  hold  here  a  second.     We're  going  to  want  to 
dump  that  OPS  down  to  as  low  as  possible  pressure, 
and  we'll  be  wanting  to  give  you  a  GO  on  that.  Let 
me  get  on  -  get  hooked  up  here  around  the  room. 

CMP  Okay.     You  know,  we've  still  got  it  out.     We  thought 

we'd,  you  know,  stow  it  later  this  afternoon  some- 
time . 

CC  Okay;  fine. 

CMP  You  know,  after  we  can  dump  it  again. 

11  11  33  k3     CC  America,  Houston.     Your  cabin  is  down  to  1+.8  now, 

so  you're  cleared  to  dump  the  OPS  at  any  time. 
And  we  expect  with  1100  pounds  it  would  pump  it  up 
to  about  5.7,  so  we'll  probably  have  to  stop  you 
prior  to  reaching  zero. 

CMP  Oh,  okay.     Hey,  mighty  fine.     We'll  do  it. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     That  OPS  is  dumping  now. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     We'll  watch  it. 


11  11  39  ^8  CC 


America,  Houston. 


Tape  I8U/2 


LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  We've  identified  a  hunber  of  cracks  and  crevices 

up  in  the  -  in  the  area  -  any  area  above  the  couch 
plane  along  the  X-axis  or  just  atove  the  couch 
plane  that  could  possibly  be  places  where  the 
scissors  disappeared  to.    And  we  would  like  those 
areas  searched  if  they  haven't  been  searched 
already.     As  an  example,  the  crack  between  the  top 
of  the  main  display  panel  number  2  and  the  -  the 
hatch  opening  area,  that  kind  of  crack  and  crevice 
area  there.     We  would  like  that  looked  into.  I 
kind  of  assume  you've  already  done  that.    We  don't 
want  you  to  remove  any  panels  or  anything  like  that 
to  look  in.     But  have  you  looked  in  those  areas,  or 
do  you  plan  to  look  in  those  areas  here  shortly? 

CMP  Hey,  Bob,  I've  looked  in  some  of  those  things. 

But  just  to  make  sure  I've  covered  everything  and 
the  fact  that  we  checked  it  again,  why  don't  we  go 
over  it  again. 

CC  Okay. 

CMP  Wait  a  minute  and  I'll  get  my  flashlight,  and  then 

we  can  start  doing  it  again  systematically. 

CC  Okay. 

LMP  It's  scissors,  my  dear  Watson,  scissors. 

CC  Seriously,  it  would  have  saved  a  lot  of  problem  if 

you'd  seen  them  floating  out.  Jack.     We  would  have 
just  not  had  to  have  done  any  of  this. 

CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Roger.     Go  ahead. 

CDR  Bob,  it  looks  like  we're  going  to  make  it  on  this 

OPS  depress.     She's  reading  0,  and  she's  just 
barely  bleeding  out.     We're  somewhere  around  5.5, 
so  I'm  just  going  to  let  it  bleed  out  now.  And 
then  we'll  stow  it. 

CC  Real  fine;  real  fine. 


Tape  lQk/3 


11  11  k'J  11    CMP           Okay,  Houston.     Checked  it  out  above  MDC  number  2. 
CC             Okay;  and  -  - 
CMP  Also,  looked   

CC  -  -  there  was  the  area  aroiind  -  - 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  -  -  each  of  the  plus  XX  -  the  XX  struts  and  the 

PLV  vent  there ,  and  the  other  XX  strut .     You  might 
check  -  pay  particular  attention  to  that  area. 

CMP  Yes,  we  checked  that.     And  also  checked  it  again 

now. 

CC  Okay.    From  our  pictures,  and  this  may  not  really 

be  the  case,  on  the  -  above  main  display  panel  3, 
where  it  says  -  where  the  handhold,  the  structure 
part  of  handhold,  looks  like  there's  some  cracks 
and  crevices  right  above  -  right  around  that  hand- 
hold area  that  could,  between  the  handhold  and 
panel  6,  that  a  pair  of  scissors  could  slip  up  into. 

CMP  Okay.     We're  looking  around  there,  and  it  doesn't 

look  like  they  could  -  Well,  they  could  possibly 
fit  in  there  maybe.  But,  anyhow,  we  checked  it, 
and  they're  not  there. 

CC  Okay.     And  then  on  the  other  side  of  the  cockpit 

in  the  same  area  around  handhold,  back  behind  the  - 
that  crevice  area  back  behind  the  COAS  power  panel, 
panel  15,  and  the  handhold.     And  then  also  that 
little  area  in  front  of  the  handhold,  where  -  the 
cutout  for  main  display  panel  2,  you  might  look  - 
take  your  light  and  look  in  there. 

11  11  i+9  06     CMP  Okay.     I'm  over  there  now. 

11  11  50  51    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     No  joy  on  that  part  either. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     The  next  couple  are  really  down  in  the 

lower  equipment  bay  area,  and  then  I've  got  one 
area  up  in  the  tunnel  -  two  areas  up  in  the  tunnel 
that  are  suspect  areas,  and  then  that  does  it. 
Which  would  you  like  first? 


I'm  up  in  the  tunnel,  now. 


Okay;  the  tunnel  area.     The  only  thing  ve  show  up 
there  is  the  -  the  four  handholds  around  the  - 
around  the  tunnel.     I  don't  think  scissors  could 
get  up  there ,  but  there  -  they  -  mayhe  they  could 
slip  in  something  like  that.     Anyway,  those  four 
handhold  slots  up  there,  you  might  check  in  those 
two  areas. 

Those  scissors  couldn't  fit  in  those  handholds, 
but  it's  good  to  check  them.     Something  else  might 
be  in  there. 

Okay.     The  -  Oh,  in  the  other  one  up  in  that  area, 
Ron,  and  I  assume  you  -  you've  put  that  outlet  bag 
over  the  cabin  fans  -  and  we  wouldn't  want  you  to 
fool  with  that  at  all,  because  it's  probably  all 
full  of  dirt  and  everything  -  but  if  you  didn't, 
then  the  outlet  to  the  cabin  fan  area  might  be 
a  potential  place. 

Let's  see.     We  installed  that  the  first  day  out, 
I  think.     And  it's  been  on  there  ever  since. 

Yes,  we  assumed  you  did.     I  just  was  trying  to 
cover  all  bases  here.     Okay;  the  last  three  items  - 
I  think  you've  actually  called  one  of  them  -  are 
down  in  the  lower  equipment  bay.     One  of  them  is 
the  -  the  crack  just  below  panel  101,  down  in  the 
lower  equipment  bay.     I  think  you  called  that  one 
the  first  night,  didn't  you? 

Not  below  101;  no. 

Okay.     Our  pictures  show  a  crevice  below  101,  and 
also  while  you're  right  there,  I  -  I  don't  think 
it's  even  -  there's  a  crevice  above  the  door  for 
the  optics  stowage  area  that  you  might  check  up  in 
there.     It  might  have  lodged.     And,  also,  while 
you're  right  there,  Ron,  our  pictiire,  of  course, 
shows  your  hoses  stowed,  and  they  kind  of  come  out 
right  there  to  the  right  of  panel  120,  the  optics 
stowage  area.     And  so  you've  got  some  area  behind 
those  panels  -  behind  those  hoses  and  that  -  where 
it  might  have  lodged,  but  I  believe  you  had  to  move 
those  in  order  to  do  your  EVA  yesterday,  anyway. 


Tape  18U/5 


CMP  Yes,  the  hoses  in  the  tunnel  have  all  been  moved 

around  in  here,  as  far  as  the  hoses  are  concerned. 
I  still  think  the  biggest  probability  is  -  is  right 
above  the  optics  stowage,  and  that's  what  I  was 
talking  about  before.     Because  it's  about  -  oh,  an 
inch.     You  know,  the  crack  is  at  least  an  inch  deep 
in  there  and  as  long  as  the  optics  stowage  thing 
itself. 


CC  Okay;  and  let  me  -  We'll  have  one  more  recommen- 

dation for  you. 

CMP  Okay. 

CC  And  then  over  panel  250  there's  a  little  bitty 

opening  -  It  shows  in  the  pictures  -  over  panel  250. 

11  11  5h  50    CMP  Okay;  we'll  check  that  in  a  second  here. 

CC  Our  only  thoughts,  Ron,  on  the  -  any  other  position 

that  you  might  see  -  You  know,  if  it's  above  the 
couch  plane  and  you  really  think  it  might  be  a 
suspect  area,  you  might  consider  taping  the  crack, 
if  you  desire.     The  tape  probably  isn't  going  to 
hold  it  in  if  it  wants  to  come  tumbling  out,  but 
it  -  it's  something  you  could  do  if  you  wanted  to. 

CMP  Okay.    Yes,  I  understand  that.  Bob.    That's  a  good 

point . 


CC 


And,  Ron,  while  we're  talking  to  you,  we'd  like  to 
tag  up  with  you  on  one  more  item  unrelated  to  the 
scissors  search,  and  that  is  your  headset  situation. 
And  we  just  want  to  leave  the  -  make  sure  you're 
going  to  do  as  was  said  last  night  and  will  not 
plug  that  -  the  headset  with  the  broken  wire,  you 
will  not  plug  in  again,  and  we'll  arrange  your 
entry  configuration  in  some  configuration  that 
does  not  require  that  headset  to  be  plugged  in. 
Is  that  affirm? 


CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm.  Bob.     I  think  what  I'll  do, 

I'll  wear  it  as  a  bump  hat,  you  know,  and  then  - 
and  then  use  the  lightweight  headset  with  the  - 
you  know,  with  the  earplugs  underneath  that.  I'll 
put  the  lightweight  headset  around  my  neck,  and 


Tape  lQk/6 


then  have  the  mike  sticking  up  in  front  of  me, 
and  with  the  earplugs  on.     I  -  I  tested  that 
configuration;  it's  ccmfortable.    No  problem. 
It'll  work.    And  I  will  not  pliog  in  the  coram 
carrier  at  all. 

CC  Roger.     We  just  wanted  to  tag  up  with  you  on  that. 

That's  what  we'll  be  expecting,  and  we'll  -  we'll 
put  this  to  bed  forever . 

11  11  58  06    CMP  Okay;  mighty  fine. 

11  12  02  33    CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     We  got  the  major  compartments  inven- 

toried and  stowed,  frankly,  with  the  exception  of 
the  things  we  need,  of  course,  between  now  and 
then  in  the  sleeping  areas  and  what  have  you. 
We'll  finish  that  off,  of  course,  as  we  finish  up 
with  gear  and  as  we  get  up  in  the  morning .  But 
there's  very  little  left  to  do,  and  any  contingency 
weight  changes,  which  there  may  be  Just  a  couple 
at  the  most,  we'll  inventory  those  and  give  them 
to  you  in  the  morning. 

11  12  03  23    CC  Roger. 


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Tape  185/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


11  12  28  29    CC  America,  17-     Say  again.     17,  Houston. 

CMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  I've  got  an  interesting  little  press  release 

here.     Jack  Schmitt  -  and  I'm  sure  all  of  you 
will  be  interested  in,  but  based  upon  your  vork 
up  in  the  Shorty  area  on  the  surface,  the  people 
out  at  Flagstaff  went  back  and  looked  at  the 
Apollo  ih  250-niillimeter  camera  frames  from  - 
and  showed  that  it  had  colored  frames  that  showed 
brownish  and  orangish  colorations  on  a  bulbous 
dome  in  the  Crater  Langrenus  and  on  a  U-kilometer 
dark  halo  crater  on  the  electa  blanket  of  The- 
ophilus.    And  they've  made  that  news  release  today. 

IMP  Very  good.     We  may  have  triggered  something. 

CC  Yes,  sir. 

11  12  29  k3    CMP  Bob,  I'm  on  my  maneuver. 

CC  America,  we'd  like  OMNI  Delta. 

11  12  31  lU    DVIP  You  have  OMNI  Delta  now.  Bob. 

CC  17,  Houston.     OMNI  Alfa. 

11  12  38  08    IMF  You  got  it. 

11  12  k6  37     CMP  Houston,  America.     Would  you  like  the  HIGH  GAIN? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

dC  America,  you  can  go  to  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

11  12        1+2    CMP  You  got  it. 

CC  Thank  you. 

CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 


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11  13  02  00    CDR  Okay.     We  might  be  5  or  10  minutes  late  on 

starting  ALFMED.  We're  still  putting  some  sensors 
on. 

CC  Roger, 

CDR  Hello,  Bot. 

CC  Yes . 

CDR  Can  you  get  a  reading?     Is  it  the  same  two  sub- 

jects on  ALFMED  as  we  had  going  out,  or  is  this 
a  case  where  you  want  all  three  of  us?     It's  not 
exactly  clear. 

11  13  03  57    CC  Jack,  we  agree  with  you  that  it's  not  clear,  and 

FAO  tells  us  we  want  the  two  -  same  two  subjects 
wearing  the  blindfolds  as  on  the  trajisesirth  coast 
as  was  on  the  translunar  coast . 

CDR  Okay.     Well,  this  has  been  Gene,  and  that's  the 

way  we'll  do  it. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

IMP  Houston,  this  is  Jack. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

11  13  06  17    IMP  Yes.    We've  got  pretty  good  attitude  here,  and 

the  -  ask  FAQ  if  they  want  them  on  VOX  and  if 
they  also  want  the  notes  recorded  up  here. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  check  on  that. 

11  13  07  12    CC  The  easiest  way  to  do  it  would  be  to  just  go 

ahead  and  do  it  on  VOX,  and  we'll  get  everything 
recorded  down  here. 

LMP  I  agree,  because  taking  notes  is  good  when  you're 

having  dropouts,  but  it's  hardly  the  same  as 
tapes . 

CC  That's  affirmative.     And  since  you  do  have  -  you're 

locked  up  on  comm  and  HIGH  GAIN  and  that,  well, 
let's  just  go  ahead  and  we'll  just  record  it  all 
down  here  for  you. 


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IMP  Okay. 

CC  Jack,  Houston. 

IMP  Go  ahead. 

11  13  09  33    CC  This  is  your  option.  Jack.    But  if  you  want  to, 

you  can  put  the  other  set  of  hllndfolds  out  and 
see  what  you  see,  too,  in  VOX  and  give  us  the 
data. 

IMP  Roger.    Mayhe  I  will.     One  problem  is,  though, 

that  I  notice  that  once  things  get  going  with 
two,  that  they  were  starting  to  interfere,  and 
three  might  do  the  same  thing. 

CC  Okay.    Your  option.     Uo  -  - 

IMP  I  may  put  them  on  anyway. 

CC  It's  your  option.     No  problem. 

IMP  I  may  put  them  on  just  to  watch. 

CC  Roger . 

IMP  It's  the  only  movie  we  have  this  afternoon. 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

11  13  11  hi     CMP  Roger.     Would  you  ask  the  Surgeon  to  check  and 

see  if  the  command  module  pilot  is  alive  and  well. 

11  13  12  00    CC  Okay.     They're  seeing  data.     It  looks  sort  of 

squirrelly  and  -  but  it  looks  -  they  want  it  to 
settle  down  for  a  little  while. 

11  13  12  33    CMP  Better  go  VOX. 
SC 

CDR  Got  to  unplug  that  there. 

CMP  Yes,  I'm  ready. 


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11  13  Ik  k3    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     CDR  and  CMP  have  got  their  blindfolds 

on. 

CC  Roger . 

CMP  I  got  it. 

11  13  15  12    CDR  Okay.     We're  starting. 

11  13  l6  h2    CMP  Houston,  this  is  Ron.    While  we're  getting  dark 

adapted  here,  probably  won't  see  any  for  a  while. 
Let  me  just  record  on  the  tape  my  impression  of 
these  light  flashes  as  they  occurred  around  the 
Moon  and  at  other  times.     In  general,  they've  all 
been  essentially  -  just  a  -  as  -  as  it  says  -  a 
flash,  with  a  -  with  a  little  bit  of  a  glow,  and 
usually  in  one  eye  or  the  other  eye.    And  for 
some  reason,  most  generally,  they've  been  kind  of  • 
if  you  -  you  don't  want  to  say  it's  in  -  it's  in 
the  periphery  of  your  vision,  because  you  get 
the  feeling  that  maybe  there  was  a  flash  over  to 
the  left  or  down  to  the  right  or  something  like 
that.     But  you  don't  get  a  distinct  impression  as 
to  where  the  flash  came  from.    Well,  you  can  - 
you  can  see  where  it  came  from,  but  not  -  you 
can't  see  the  flash  itself.     Like  it  was  just 
beyond  your  vision.    Most  of  them  have  been  like 
that.     At  one  time  and  one  time  only  throughout 
the  flight,  I  can  remember  kind  of  a  triple  flash, 
so  to  speak.    And  in  that  case,  there  was  a  bright 
flash  in  the  left  eye  on  -  on  -  about  10  o'clock 
in  the  left  eye.     And  then  it  repeated  itself 
again  about  2  o'clock  in  the  left  eye.     And  then 
about,  oh,  10  o'clock,  a  quarter  of  the  way  out, 
in  the  right  eye.     I  just  got  a  bing,  bing,  bing, 
just  like  that.     Three  -  three  of  them  right  in  a 
row.     And  the  rest  of  the  time,  thoi;igh,  they've 
all  essentially  been  single  flashes  to  me. 

11  13  18  kl    CDR  This  is  Gene  here.     I'll  just  remark  that  both 

Jack  and  I  did  see  them  on  the  lunar  surface.  I 
guess  the  best  summation  I  can  make  of  that  is  I 
think  I  saw  both  lines  and  -  and  the  spots  or  the 
flashes  a  little  bit  more  sharply,  but  that  might 
be  because  of  the  adaptation  -  dark  adaptation 


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in  the  IM  prior  to  going  to  sleep  was  probably 
a  little  bit  better.    And  I'd  guess  -  It's 
awful  hard  to  tell  time  when  you're  under  -  when 
it's  dark,  ...  but  I  guess  1  want  to  say  they 
were  quite  frequent,  and  I'd  say  that  means  two 
to  three  a  minute  now.     That  could  be  way  out, 
but  that ' s  what  I ' d  guess . 

SC  (Cough) 

11  13  3*^  03    CMP  (Cough)   ...  in  my  ...  or  something.     I  don't 

see  anything. 

SC  (Cough) 

CC  America,  Houston.     We  haven't  heard  anything. 

Have  you  seen  any  flashes  at  all? 

11  13  hk  3h    CMP  Haven't  heard  a  -  I  haven't  seen  a  thing.  Bob. 

Can't  understajid  it. 

ODE  Same  here  from  the  CDR.     I  haven't  seen  anything. 

CC  Roger.     I  understand.     Your  heart  rates  are  down 

pretty  low,  like  maybe  you  fell  asleep  or  some- 
thing. 

11  13  kk  50    CMP  Oh,  no.    Well,  the  LMP  dozed  a  couple  of  times 

but  -  I  thought  I  saw  one.  Bob,  but  I'm  not  sure. 
I  squinted  hard  about  that  time.  I  may  have  just 
triggered  something. 

CC  Roger.     Okay.     We're  just  standing  by, 

LMP  The  last  time  we  were  in  PTC,  were  we  not? 

CC  Yes,  you  were,  and  that's  one  reason  you  had  to 

copy  it  down,  because  we  kept  losing  comm  on 
you. 

LMP  Yes,  as  I  recall,  they  seemed  to  come  in  batches 

when  -  when  I  was  taking  notes.     Is  that  what 
you  people  observe  -  or  recorded,  rather? 


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CC  That's  affirmative.  Jack.    And  the  tho\;ight  that 

occurs ,  of  course ,  is  that  you  may  be  blocking 
with  the  shielding  on  the  spacecraft  somehow. 

CMP  Houston,  has  my  biomed  settled  down? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

11  13  1*9  19    CMP  Okay. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  186/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


11  ll;  06  33    LMP  No,  I  still  fail  to  see  any  flashes.     I  rotated 

180  degrees  along  the  rotation  axis  along  Z  and 
saw  no  change.  IMP. 

11  ik  10  11    CC  America,  Houston.     The  light  flash  observation 

time  is  up,  and  we'd  -  we'd  like  to  move  on  into 
the  Flight  Plan.    And  this  call  -  It  is  for  Ron  -  - 

IMP  Hey,  Robert. 

CC  The  EMS  entry  check  is  on  -  at  28l  as  shown.  We'd 

like  you  to  do  that  now  prior  to  the  maneuver, 
which  is  at  28l,  or  delay  it  until  about  28l:50 
when  you're  not  maneuvering.    We'd  like  to  do 
that  check  when  you  are  not  in  -  not  maneuvering. 

CMP  I'll  go  ahead  and  do  it  now.     What's  going  up 

this  minute  -  coming  up  here? 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  Let's  see  what's  coming  up  first. 

CC  Okay.     You  can  do  it  now.     You've  got  about 

5  minutes  prior  to  the  VERB  1*9  maneuver. 

CDR  What  would  that  be?    SMS  check?     Okay.    Why  -  why 

don't  you  go  over  it  now? 

IMP  Your  eyes  all  right? 

CDR  Give  yourself  a  chance  to  open  your  eyes. 

IMP  Yes. 

CMP  That  must  prove  something,  the  fact  that  we  didn't 

even  see  them,  huh"! 

CC  It  would  probably  tell  you  that  there's  a  point 

source,  and  the  spacecraft  is  blocking  it  somehow. 

CDR  Or  the  Earth.    Or  the  Sun. 

IMP  I  believe  it. 


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CC  Oh,  yes.    Yes.    Yes.     If  I  wanted  to  get  technical, 

something's  'blocking  them.     That's  right. 

CDR  (Laughter)    Much  as  we  have  been  seeing  them,  I 

can't  helieve  that.    Okay,  Ron.    Why  don't  you  go 
ahead  and  do  that,  huh?    I  just  put  mine  up. 

11  Ik  12  58    (MP  Okay.     I'm  on  page  1-3,  and  the  IMS  FUNCTIOK  is 

OFF.     Circuit  breakers  are  CLOSE.     MS  MODE  to 
STANDBY.     And  FUUCTION  to  TEST  5  -  or  TEST  1. 
EMS  to  NORMAL. 

11  ih  13  11    CMP  Okay.     The  hairline  is  over  the  notch  in  the 

self -test  pattern  and  in  test  pattern  number  h. 
Okay;  0.05G  light  came  on  in  TEST  2.    Go  to 
TEST  3. 

11  Ik  15  02    CMP  Okay;  it's  10  seconds,  and  the  down  light  came 

on. 

11  ik  15  31    CMP  Okay;  it's  58. 0  in  the  range  coimter.  Okay; 

TEST  k.     She's  counting  down,  and  trace  went  down. 
Going  straight  along. 

11  ik  15  56     CMP  MARK  it.     10  seconds.     0.0.     How  about  that?  And 

it  stops  at  the  lower  right-hand  corner  of  the 
trace. 

11  Ik  16  36     CMP  Okay;  with  TEST  5,  trace  went  up,  and  10  seconds 

later  the  upper  light  came  ON. 

11  ik  IT  02    CMP  Okay.     We'll  go  to  RANGE  SET  here.     ...  cool  down 

a  little  bit.     And  the  trace  moves  on  up  to  zero. 
It  looks  like  it  worked  good,  Houston. 

CC  Roger.     Sotmds  great. 

11  ik  17  22    CMP  Okay;  we'll  go  to  STANDBY  and  OFF. 

11  Ik  23  39    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 


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CC  Just  some  words  for  Ron.     When  he  gets  into  the 

P20  option  2,  the  maneuver  there  was  tried,  on 
the  simulator,  and  it  got  out  to  Tl  degrees  on 
the  middle  gimbal  angle.     And  they  got  a  gimbal 
warning  light,  although  71  degrees  is  the  maxi- 
mum yaw  angle  they  got. 

CDH  Okay;  we'll  try  it. 

IMP  Boh,  for  yovir  recorded  information  there,  mag 

Tango  -  Tango  on  the  35-iiiillimeter  camera  - 
frames  -  let's  see  -  8  through  13  have  the 
ALFMED  prime  observer  position  data  on  them. 

CC  Roger.    We've  got  it  recorded. 

11  ih  30  2h    CC  Just  another  piece  of  data,  guys.     On  this 

maneuver  you're  in  right  now,  it  should  go  out 
to  a  6T-degree  middle  gimbal  angle  right  in  this 
maneuver . 

CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  close  UV  cover 

until  we're  in  attitude  now. 

CMP  Okay;  we'll  close  the  cover. 

11  li;  32  hi    CMP  Okay;  COVER  is  CLOSED. 

11  ih  36  12    CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Houston,  this  is  America.    Go  ahead. 

CC  Roger.     We've  got  a  procedure  we'd  like  to  go 

through  to  eventually  put  the  ECS  RADIATORS 
FLOW  CONTROL  over  to  AUTO,  and  we  have  a  bunch  - 
several  steps  we'd  like  to  go  through  before  you 
do  that  move. 

CMP  Okay.    Wait  a  minute;  I'll  write  them  down  here 

so  we  can  . . . 

CC  Roger.     Are  you  ready  to  read  it  -  or  copy  it? 

CMP  Okay.     Go  ahead. 


Tape  l86/!+ 


11  Ih  36  h8    CC  Okay.     On  panel  5,  the  ECS  BADIATORS  CONTROLLER 

circuit  breaker  ACl,  verify  CLOSED.     Panel  2  ECS 
RADIATOR  FLOW  CONTROLLER  to  position  1.  ECS 
RADIATORS  FLOW  CONTROL  POWER  to  OFF,  center 
then  POWER.     Wait  20  seconds.     ECS  RADIATOI^ 
FLOW  CONTROL  to  AUTO.  Over. 


CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Do  you  suspect  it  was  a  -  a  power  glitch,  or  do 

you  think  the  controller  actually  failed  and 
you're  just  now  verifying  it? 

CC  Negative  on  either  of  those  cases.    We've  just 

had  lots  of  spurious  changes  in  the  past  history 
on  flights.    John's  sitting  here  saying  you  had 
a  numter  of  times  on  10,  and  so  -  since  we're 
not  -  We  just  think  the  power  controller  probably 
saw  a  temperature  glitch  or  something,  and  we 
think  it  will  just  come  right  back.     No  problem. 

CDR  I  -  Come  to  think  of  it,  I  guess  we  did,  now 

that  he  recalls  it. 


CC  We'd  like  OMNI  Charlie. 

CMP  Okay;  you  have  OMNI  Charlie. 

CC  And  while  you're  there,  we'd  like  the  UV  COVER 

to  OPEN  now. 

11  Ik  39  20    CMP  Okay;  we'll  open  the  UV  cover. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.     I'm  ready  to  proceed  on  this 

pitch  maneuver. 


CC  Roger . 

11  ik  kO  3k    CMP  And,  Houston,  the  readback  on  the  flow  controller 

there.    We'll  check  panel  5.     ECS  RADIATOR 
CONTROL  circuit  breaker  ACl,  verify  it's  CLOSED, 
Then  we'll  put  the  ECS  FLOW  CONTROLLER  to  position 
number  1.    And  we'll  turn  the  ECS  FLOW  CONTROLLER 
POWER,  OFF,  then  center. 


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CC  It's  OFF,  center,  Ron,  and  then  up  to  the  POWER. 

CMP  Okay.    I  couldn't  figure  out  my  writing.  Okay; 

that's  right.     The  power  is  OFF,  center,  and  then  - 
hack  to  POWER.    Then  wait  20  seconds,  and  put  the 
ECS  FLOW  CONTROLLER  in  AUTO. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

11  lU  hi  05    CMP  Houston,  America.    You  want  to  start  that  now? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Any  time.     And  in  case 

you're  wondering  -  case  you're  wondering  about 
that  middle  step,  that's  a  reset  to  logic  step 
by  going  off  on  the  POWER  and  then  back  to  POWER. 

CMP  Okay. 

11  lU  U2  3h    CMP  Okay.     ECS  FLOW  CONTROLLER  is  going  to  position  1. 

Okay;  ECS  POWER  is  OFF,  and  it's  back  to  POWER. 
And  we're  waiting  20  seconds. 

CMP  Okay;  FLOW  CONTROLLER  is  going  to  AUTO  now  -  and 

stays  gray,  it  looks  like. 

CC  That's  what  we  expected.    And  needless  to  say, 

Ron,  we'll  be  watching  your  ECS  system  very 
carefully  for  you,  just  in  case  it  flips  back. 
We  don't  expect  any  problem. 

CMP  Okay;  mighty  fine. 

11  Ih  1+6  1+9    CC  And,  America,  Houston.     I've  got  a  midcourse  7 

and  a  MIDPAC  entry  pad. 

CMP  Okay.    Just  wait  1,  please. 

CC  Roger. 

11  lit  1+9  32    CC  And,  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  bring  up  the 

high  gain,  so  we  can  get  the  dump  going  and  get 
the  data  down.     It's  a  YAW,  plus  15;  PITCH,  20l+. 
Say  again.     PITCH,  plus  15;  YAW,  20l+. 


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11  lU  kg  50    CMP  Okay.     PITCH,  15;  YAW,  20U. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead.    Go  ahead,  America. 

CMP  Okay;  I  assume  this  line  in  here,  "Stop  pitch 

rate  at  lh6  degrees,"  means  stop  at  lU6  degrees 
in  pitch.     Is  that  correct? 

CC  Roger.     Stop  at  lU6  degrees  pitch. 

CMP  Okay.    Thank  you. 

11  ih  51  52    CDR  You've  got  the  high  gain,  ...  told  us.  Bob. 

CC  And,  America,  Houston.     I've  also  -  besides  these 

pads,  I've  also  got  a  Flight  Plan  update.  For 
the  first  one,  item  is  at  282:10.     Either  one 
you  want  to  take  first? 

CDR  Okay;  why  don't  you  go  ahead  with  the  Flight  Plan 

update  first. 

CC  Okay,  Gene.    At  282:10,  manually  -  manual  roll 

left  1*0  degrees  prior  to  the  VERB  h9  maneuver. 
Insert  "Manual  roll  left  1+0  degrees."    And  that'll 
give  you  a  roll  angle  of  3^2  prior  to  starting 
that  maneuver. 

CDR  Okay;  I've  got  it. 

CC  Okay.    The  next  one's  quite  a  ways  over.  It's 

at  28U:55. 

CDR  Okay;  I've  got  it. 

CC  Okay.    First  thing  at  281+ : 55,  we'd  like  a 

VERB  1*8;  first  register,  11102;  second  register, 
01111 . 


CDR 


Okay. 


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CC  A  VERB  U9  maneuver  to  lunar  sounder  thermal 

attitude  at  285:00.     The  attitude  is  PITCH,  122  - 
say  again,  ROLL,  122;  PITCH,  O65 ;  YAW,  OU?. 
That's  122,  065,  and  Oi+7.     HIGH  GAIW  angles  with 
that  will  be  PITCH,  minus  2h;  YAW,  I60. 

CDR  Okay.     At  285:00,  a  VERB  1*9  to  ROLL  of  122; 

PITCH,  065;  YAW,  Ol+T;  HIGH  GAIW  is  minus  2k 
and  160. 

CG  Roger,  Gene.     And  then  at  285:10,  where  we  had 

you  write  in  the  "Antenna  retract,"  we  want  you  to 
delete  that.    The  purpose  of  the  maneuver  above 
that  is  to  heat  up  those  antennas,  and  we  will 
retract  them  on  a  cue  from  us  when  we  feel  the 
temperatTires  are  wEirm  enough. 

CDR  Okay.    What  ahout  the  "RADAR,  OFF"  at  that  point? 

CC  Delete  "RADAR,  OFF"  also. 

11  ih  55  35    CDR  Okay.     I've  deleted  the  whole  update  at  285:10 

I  had. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

CDR  Bob,  Jack's  ready  to  take  the  pad. 

CC  Okay.     They  just  pointed  out  there's  also  VERB  U8 

at  285:10,  which  is  not  applicable  either.  And, 
Jack,  I've  got  the  MIDPAC  area  -  say  again.  Let's 
do  the  midcourse  7  pad  first.     MCC-7 . 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

11  ih  56  17    CC  RCS/G&N;  26735.     NOUN  U8s  are  not  applicable. 

301:17:57.78;  plus  0001.9,  plus  0000.0,  minus 
0000.1.    Roll  is  082;  pitch,  oUl;  yaw,  331. 
HA,  not  applicable.     Plus  0022.9;  plus  0001.9, 
0:0l+,  0001.9.     Sextant  star  is  31,  328.9, 
3U.U.     Rest  of  the  pad  is  not  applicable.  And 
in  case  I  cut  out  and  came  off  ray  key  too  fast, 
back  up  there  in  NOUU  8I,  that's  a  plus  all 
zeros  for  Delta-V^.     Set  stars  are  Sirius  and 

Rigel;  256,  152,  069.     It's  a  four  jet;  plus-X. 
Assumes  a  PTC  REFSMMAT.  Over. 


Tape  186/8 


IMP  Okay,  Bob.    I  assume  that  DELTA-V^  was  plus  all 

zeros  also. 

CC  No,  I'm  sorry.    DELTA-V    was  minus  all  zeros 

.1  -  .1  on  DELTA-V^.  ^ 

11  ih  58  hk    LMP  Okay;  midcoiarse  T  readback.     RCS/G&H;  26735- 

NOUN  hQ  is  NA.    301:17:57.78;  plus  0001.9,  pliis 
all  zeros,  plus  0000.1;  082,  Ohl,  331.    HA  is  NA. 
Plus  0022.9;  0001.9,  0:0l+,  0001.9;  31,  328.9, 
3h.h.    Rest  of  the  pad  is  NA.     Sirius  and  Rigel; 
256,  152,  069.    Four  jet;  plus-X.    Assumes  PCT- 
TC  REFSMMAT. 

CC  Roger.     One  change.     On  DELTA-V    on  yoiir  NOUN  8l» 

that  should  be  a  minus  four  balls  1  -  minus 
four  balls  1. 
LMP  Roger.     Thank  you.    Minus  four  balls  1. 

CC  Okay,  Jack.     That  got  us  warmed  up  for  the 

MIDPAC  area  entry  pad. 

IMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  MIDPAC  area;  000,  153,  000;  30U:01:37,  268. 

NOUN  61 :  minus  17.89,  minus  166.13;  06.4; 

36090,  6.U9;  10^1,2,  36172.     RRT  time:  30U:l8:37; 

00:28.     NOUN  69s  are  nonappli cable .     D^  i+.OO, 

02:08;  00:17,  03:37,  07:39-     Sextant  Stars  13, 
117.3,  15.5.     Boresight  Star  is  not  applicable. 
Lift  vector  is  UP.  Over. 

11  15  01  57    IMP  Okay.    MIDPAC  area;  000,  153,  000;  30l+:01:37, 

268;  minus  17.89,  minus  l66.13;  06.I+;  3609O, 
6.U9;  IOI17.2,  36172;  30U:l8:37;  00:27-     NOUN  69 
is  NA.     U.OO,  02:08;  00:17,  03:37,  07:39; 
13,  117.3,  15-5-     Boresight  is  NA,     Lift  vector, 
UP .     Over . 

CC  Roger.     The  RET  of  0.05G  is  00:28  -  00:28. 

IMP  Okay.     I'll  change  that  to  28  for  RET  0.05G. 


Tape  186/9 


CC 


That's  right,  and  I've  got  one  -  we've  got  seven 
assumptions  here  on  -  or  comments. 


LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Comment  1:     Use  nonexit  MS  pattern.     Comment  2: 

RET  90K  -  - 

LMP  Go  ahead.  Boh. 

11  15  03  39    CC  Roger.     Comment  2:    RET  90K,  06:01.     RET  mains, 

08:26.     RET  landing,  13:l8.     Break  break. 
UV  COVER,  CLOSED,  please, 

11  15  Oit  10    IMP  Okay;  it's  CLOSED.     And,  Boh,  you're  cutting  out 

every  once  in  a  while.     I  missed  your  comment  1. 

CC  Okay,  Jack,  let's  try  comment  1  over  again.  Use 

nonexit  EMS  pattern.     Comment  2:     90K  time, 
06:01;  mains,  08:26;  landing,  13:l8.     Comment  3: 
Constant  g  is  roll  right.     Comment  h:     GET  of 
moonset,  30^:l6;13.     Comment  5:    Assumes  midcourse 
7,  MCC-T.     Comment  6:     Assumes  entry  REFSMMAT. 
Comment  7:     GDC  align  for  entry  REFSMMAT.  Stars 
are  Sirius  and  Rigel.    ROLL,  273;  PITCH,  256; 
YAW,  347.  Over. 

LMP  Okay,  Boh.     Somehow  I  got  more  than  seven,  hut 

I'll  give  you  the  ones  I  got.     One:  nonexit 
IMS  pattern;  2:     RET  at  9OK  is  06:01;  3:  mains 
are  08:06;  h:     landing  is  13:l8;  5:     Constant  g 
is  a  roll  right;  6:     30ii:l6:13  is  moonset;  7:  as- 
sumes MCC-7;  8:     assianes  entry  REFSMMAT,  And 
9:     GDC  align  is  Sirius  and  Rigel;  273,  256,  and 
3U7. 

CC  Roger.    You've  got  a  good  readhack  there.  Jack. 

The  reason  why  is  those  times  are  all  lumped  into 
comment  2.    However  you  want  to  do  it  there,  fine. 

IMP  Okay. 

11  15  06  i+6    CC  One  correction  here.    RET  main  times  -  I  thought 

you  read  to  me  08:26.     It  is  08:26  is  the  time 
on  RET  mains. 


Tape  186/10 

IMP  Okay.     I  read  08:06. 

CG  Okay,  08:26.     26  is  the  time. 

IMP  Okay.     I  got  mains  at  08:26. 

CC  Roger,  Jack. 

11  15  08  hi    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  AUTO  on  the 

HIGH  GAIN,  and  we'd  like  you  to  do  that  manual 
roll  and  VERB  1+9  maneuver,  which  is  listed  at 
282:10.    We'd  like  you  to  start  it  now. 

CDR  Okay,  Boh. 

CDR           Hey,  Boh.  I  don't  think  your  3^2  is  going  to 

work  out.  I've  just  -  Correction,  if  you  will. 

Roll  left.  Left  hO  degrees  coming  up. 

Okay.     I'm  just  sitting  here,  staring  at  FAO,  and 
asking  why  it  doesn't  work  out.     Let  me  handle 
that.     That's  fine. 

No,  it  -  Hey,  Bob,  it  will.     I  was  thinking  of 
roll  right.     I'm  on  my  way  left  now,  and  we  will 
get  3h2. 


CC 


CDR 


CC  Okay. 
CDR 


Close  to  it.    We'll  get  about  -  about  -  let's  see 
now,  20  -  whatever  -  whatever  360  minus  20  is. 
That's  about  3^+2. 

CC  Okay. 

11  15  Ih  09    CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We're  there. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  Bob,  I  press  right  on  to  the  VERB  U9? 

CC  That's  affirmative.     Press  right  on  with  the 

VERB  1+9. 


CC 


We're  just  using  this  as  a  little  addition  here 
to  get  more  time  -  more  thermal  heat  on  those  - 
antennas . 


Tape  186/11 


11  15  20  ho    CC  Anerica,  Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Delta. 

IMP  Okay,  Bob.     I  gave  it  to  you  a  few  minutes  ago. 

CC  You  got  one  on  INCO  that  time. 

IMP  The  first  one. 

11  15  25  3^+    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  UV  COVER,  OPEN, 

please. 

11  15  26  01    CMP  Okay;  it's  OPEN. 

11  15  26  08    CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  ACCEPT.    We've  got 

a  state  vector  that  goes  with  those  pads  we've 
called  up. 

11  15  26  16     CDR  Okay,  Bob.     You've  got  ACCEPT. 

CC  And  you  can  get  into  the  Flight  Plan.'  We  gave 

you  ahout  a  15-minute  bonus  on  your  eat  period 
there.  You  can  jump  right  into  the  eat  period 
if  you  want . 

CDR  Okay.    Thank  you,  Houston. 

11  15  29  21    CC  America,  Houston.     The  computer  is  yours. 

11  15  29  28    CDR  Thank  you,  Houston.     . . . 


Eiro  OF  TAPE 


Tape  18T/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTIOH 

11  15  h5  27    CC  America,  Houston.     This  is  for  Ron.     It  looks  like 

one  of  your  sensors  may  have  come  loose,  so  we're 
getting  bad  data.    And  don't  interrupt  your  eating, 
but  when  you  get  a  chance  you  might  try  and  push 
them  on  or  service  them  or  whatever  needs  to  be 
done. 

LMP  Okay,  he'll  get  it.     Is  it  by  any  chance  printing 

upside  down? 

CC  No,  it's  correct  according  to  the  -  - 

CMP  I'm  upside  down  in  the  tunnel. 

CC  -  -  doctor.     Okay.     (Laughter)    Do  you  like  eating 

that  way?    Is  that  the  new  trick? 

LMP  I  don't  see  how  his  family  is  going  to  live  with 

him. 

CMP  We're  not  going  to  be  able  to  do  that  for  very 

much  longer,  you  know. 

11  15  h6  l6    CC  About  21  hours  and  52  minutes. 

11  l6  l6  29    CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay,  Bob.     I've  kind  of  fiddled  around  with  the 

sensors,  now.    Are  they  working  okay  now? 

CC  Stand  by,  Ron.    Ron,  your  sensors  look  good,  right 

at  the  moment . 

CMP  Okay.    Good  enough. 

11  l6  23  00    LMP  Hey,  Houston;  IT- 

CC  Go  ahead,  IT- 

LMP  Yes,  we'd  like  to  run  a  check  here  on  this  TV 

setup.    Are  we  going  to  disturb  you  if  we  go  to 
TV  on  the  S-BAUD  AUX  switch? 


Tape  187/2 


CC 
LMP 


CC 


LMP 


CC 


CC 

CDR 

CC 

CDR 


Stand  by  on  that.    Let  me  check  with  OSO. 

And,  Bob,  if  it  is  an  inconvenience,  could  you 
look  ahead  and  find  the  time  we  can  have  10  or 
15  minutes,  if  possible,  to  work  this  out. 


11  16  23  111    CC  Roger . 

11  16  27  h6    CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 


You  can  have  the  TV  switch  to  TV  for  about  35  min- 
utes starting  right  now,  if  you'd  like.    And,  while 
while  -  if  you're  working  around  there,  we  would 
like  to  take  BATTERY  A  off  the  CHAEGE  and  put  BAT- 
TERY B  on  CHARGE. 

Okay,  it's  in  work.     And,  we  probably  won't  need 
it  for  that  long.    And,  we'll  get  back  with  you  as 
soon  as  we  can. 


CC  Roger. 
11  16  28  2h    IMP  Okay;  we're  in  TV  now. 

11  16  30  05    LMP  Okay,  Bob,  BATTERY  B  is  on  CHAEGE  and  7-Alfa  reads 

1.3. 


Roger.     We  got  that. 


11  16  38  h2    cm  Okay,  Bob,  I'm  going  to  pick  up  the  manual  roll 

right  for  the  VERB  J+9. 


now. 

CC  Okay. 


Okay,  Geno.     You've  got  a  new  capcom  now.  Good 
evening. 

Good  evening,  Gordo.     How  are  you  doing? 
Real  fine.    How  about  you? 

Very  fine.     I'm  going  right  for  my  VERB  U9  maneuver, 


11  16  kO  kl    CC  America,  Houston.     We  need  OMNI  Charlie,  please? 


Tape  187/3 


11  16  1+7  20    CC  America,  Houston.    Siiggest  you  try  to  get  the  HIGH 

GAIN  up  at  a  PITCH  of  10;  YAW,  210. 

CMP  PITCH,  10;  and  lAW,  210;  okay. 

CC  Roger. 

11  17  00  11    CC  America,  Houston.    We've  sealed  up  the  DSE  with 

science  data.     And,  so  if  you're  through  with  the 
TV  rehearsal,  we'd  like  the  AUX  hand  -  the  S-BAHD 
AUX  switch  back  to  SCIENCE,  so  we  can  get  the  rest 
of  the  data  real  time. 

LMP  Okay.    We  just  finished  and  going  to  SCIEBCE. 

11  17  00  31    CC  Roger.     Thank  you. 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  188/1 


APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

11  17  lU  31    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Gordy,  how  far  out  are  we? 

CC  How  far  out?    100  000  miles,  approximately. 

CDR  Okay.    Thank  you. 

11  17  18  25    CC  America,  Houston.    A  little  more  precise  answer. 

You're  97,500  miles,  and  you  passed  the  halfway 
point  about  2  hours  ago.    And  we're  going  to 
have  a  site  handover  here  on  the  hour. 

11  17  18  hi    IMP  Got  all  that,  Gordy.    Thank  you. 

11  17  2h  30    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CDR  We'll  stand  hy  for  your  call  to  power  up  the  TV. 

CC  Roger . 

11  17  25  l8    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  ready  for  TV. 

LMF  Roger,  Gordy. 

11  17  26  hi    CDR  Okay.    We're  going  to  TRANSMIT  on  the  TV  now. 

CC  Roger . 

CDR  And  let  us  know  when  you've  got  a  picture. 

CC  Will  do. 

11  17  27  19    CC  American,  Houston.     We've  got  a  picture.  Looks 

good,  looks  in  focus,  and  we  see  the  flag  in  the 
pat  ch . 

CDR  Okay . 

LMP  Houston,  here's  the  crew  of  Apollo  -  Apollo  17, 

Spaceship  America. 


Tape  188/2 

CC  Roger,  Apollo  17.    If  you're  ready  for  the 

questioning,  I'll  begin. 

LMP  Go  ahead,  Gordo. 

CC  Okay.     As  usual  in  these  inflight  news 

conferences ,  the  questions  that  will  he  asked 
of  you  were  prepared  by  correspondents  covering 
the  Apollo  IT  mission  at  the  Manned  Spacecraft 
Center  in  Houston.     They  will  be  read  exactly  as 
written  and  in  the  order  determined  by  the 
newsmen.     The  first  question  is  for  Jack  Schmitt. 
If  you,  as  a  geologist,  were  coming  home  from  a 
field  trip  on  Earth,  you'd  be  drafting  a 
preliminsiry  report  and  discussing  it  with  fellow 
geologists.     In  terms  understandable  to  laymen, 
can  you  summarize  what  you  would  be  saying  in 
your  preliminary  report  about  yoiir  field  trip 
to  Taurus -Litt row? 

LMP  Well,  I'll  -  I'll  give  that  a  try,  Gordy.  I 

think  the  thing  we  had  hoped  to  accomplish  at 
Taurus-Littrow  was  to  look  at  a  -  as  broad  a 
spectrum  of  the  history  of  the  Moon  as  possible 
in  one  small  area,  as  the  concluding  flight  to 
the  Apollo  Program.     And  I  think  we  did  that .  I 
think  we  had  look  -  did  look  at  some  of  the 
oldest  rocks  that  it  is  possible  to  see  with  our 
capability  in  the  breccias  of  the  South  and  North 
Massifs.    I  think  we  saw  some  intermediate-age 
rocks  of  fairly  unexpected  character,  I  believe, 
in  the  subfloor  crystalline  or  igneous  rocks ,  the 
gabbro,  as  we  called  them  there.     And  we  also 
understood,  I  think,  that  those  rocks,  in  fact, 
had  intruded  into  the  breccias  of  the  North 
Massif.     We  found,  I  believe,  in  the  -  at  the 
Crater  Van  Serg,  on  the  third  EVA,  that  the 
regolith,  or  the  garden  zone,  on  the  top  of  that 
subfloor  gabbro,  or  the  igneous  rocks,  was  quite 
thick,  or  appears  to  be  very  thick,  which  is  an 
expected  result,  and  will  -  hopefully,  those 
rocks  will  have  much  information  about  a  fairly 
extended  period  of  lunar  erosion.     And,  we  found 
that  there  was  indeed  a  dark  mantle  over  the  area 


Tape  188/3 


of  -  varialjle  thickness;  "but,  apparently,  of 
relatively  recent  age,  and  that  in  turn  had  a 
light  mantle  of  material  of  which  we  do  not  yet 
understand,  and  I  think  that  the  samples  are 
going  to  have  to  tell  that  story.     It  may  well  be 
a  land  slide  that  has  come  off  the  South  Massif. 
And,  then,  possihly  as  important  as  any  finding, 
we  found  that  even  later  than  that  relatively 
yoiing  light  mantle  deposit  are  avalanche  -  possible 
avalainche  -  we  have  alteration  reminiscent  of  the 
alteration  by  hot  waters  or  hot  gases  on  Earth, 
and  that  was  the  orange  -  appears  to  be  the  orange 
soil  that  we  found  aroimd  the  Crater  Shorty.  And, 
subsequently,  in  orbit  we  started  to  pick  up,  and 
particularly  through  Ron  Evans'  efforts,  pick  up 
more  of  the  apparent  evidence  of  such  alteration 
taking  place  in  fairly  recent  time  on  the  Moon. 
All  of  those  items,  I  think,  are  extremely 
significant  and  go  through  the  full  range  of  our 
present  knowledge  of  lunar  history.    And,  a  report 
I  would  write  would  initially  summarize  that 
particular  sequence  of  events. 

CC  Question  number  2  is  for  Jack,  again.  What 

other  probable  explanations  besides  volcanic 
origin  do  you  have  for  the  orange  rock  and 
colored  soil  that  you  found  at  Shorty  Crater? 

11  IT  33  02    LMP  Well,  they  don't  necessarily  have  to  be  volcanic, 

Gordy.    I  refer  to  them  as  alteration,  and  much 
of  the  hydrothermal ,  or  hot  water,  alteration  we 
see  on  Earth  is  related  to  recent  volcanism,  or 
ancient  volcanism;  but,  also,  we  know  of  that 
kind  of  alteration  of  preexisting  materials  to 
take  place  as  a  result  of  -  of  just  fluids  working 
their  way  up  through  the  Earth's  crust,  and  I 
presume  that  such  a  process  is  also  possible  on 
the  Moon.     The  ones  we  saw  seem  to  be  associated 
with  areas  of  dark  mantle  of  various  types ,  and 
most  of  the  photographic  evidence  we  have  is  that 
those  dark  mantle  deposits  are  associated  with 
volcanism,  but  it  is  not  necessarily  proved  yet, 
I  believe,  that  the  -  the  orange  soils  or  the 
alterations  we've  seen  are  volcanic.     However,  the 


Tape  188/U 


process  woiild  be  a  related  process,  that  is,  one 
of  internal  origin. 

The  third  (question  is  for  Cernan  or  Schmitt , 
Your  voices  are  so  much  alike  that  it  is  unclear 
to  some  of  us  which  one  of  you  found  the  orange 
rock  and  who  first  spotted  the  layer  of  orange 
soil  on  the  crater  rim. 

Jack  found  it.     He  uncovered  it  as  he  was  walking 
on  the  rim,  and  we  worked  with  that,  and  then,  as 
I  went  around  the  crater  to  take  the  stereo  base 
pan  from  within  the  crater,  I  could  see  alterations 
radially  down  from  the  rim  farther  beyond  where 
we  were  working  down  to  the  center. 

I  don't  think  that  that  question  of  who  found  it 
is  as  specifically  as  important  as  that  that  we 
were  there  with  the  equipment  and  the  training 
jointly  to  not  only  recognize  that  but  to  take 
advantage  of  having  recognized  it ,  and  I  hope 
that  we  did. 

• 

Okay.     The  next  one's  for  Ron  Evans.     Why  do  you 
think  you  were  able  to  see  so  much  orange 
material  from  lunar  orbit,  after  your  partners 
had  found  some  on  the  ground,  where  none  of  the 
previous  Apollo  crews  reported  seeing  anything 
but  grays,  tans,  and  browns? 

11  17  35  22    CMP  Well,  I  think,  for  one  thing,  that  we  were  in, 

essentially,  a  different  orbit  than  some  of  the 
other  crews  that  had  been  up  there  before.  And 
even  though  each  of  us  has  a  color  tone  in  our 
own  eyes,  what  we  come  up  with,  I  think,  is  a 
function  pretty  much  of  what  you'd  like  to 
believe  and  what  you'd  like  to  see  out  of  things. 
If  you  feel  it  has  a  tint  of  orange  with  it,  and 
this  is  in  a  new  area  that  we  really  haven't 
flown  over  that  much,  and  this  is  primarily  - 
where  we  were  seeing  this  type  of  thing  was  on 
the  western  rim  of  Serenitatis,  and  some  of  the  - 
well ,  at  least  it  looks  like  known  volcanic 
deposits  along  the  rim  of  Serenitatis. 


CC 


11  17  3h  22  CDR 


IMP 


CC 


Tape  188/5 


Gordy,  let  me  add  quickly  that  there's  no  such 
thing  as  a  truly  objective  observer;  and,  I  be- 
lieve, that  once  you  start  looking  for  something, 
and  when  Ron  heard  about  what  we  were  doing,  I'm 
sure  he  started  looking,  himself,  to  see  what  we 
had  seen.     That  leads  you  to  see  things.     Now  that's 
not  seeing  things  that  are  not  there.     It  makes  you 
look  for  things  that  are  there,  and  that's  extremely 
inportant;  and  that's  where  the  kind  of  training  all 
three  of  us  have  had  and  I  think  has  made  it  pos- 
sible for  us  to  find  a  lot  of  things  that  might  not 
otherwise  have  been  found. 

CC  Here's  one  addressed  to  all  three  crewmen.  What 

will  you  remember  most  about  this  mission? 

CDR  Boy,  that's  a  loaded  question,  Gordy.     There's  so 

many  things,  but  I  think  probably  the  thing  that  - 
when  I  think  about  it  -  that  will  stick  with  me 
most  is  the  same  thing  that  stuck  with  me  -  for 
last  two  missions  -  not  so  much  being  there, 
but  it's  getting  the  chance  to  get  home  and  share 
what  you've  seen  and  what  you've  done  with  other 
people . 

CMP  I  think  in  ray  case,  the  lift-off  itself  was  some- 

thing brand  new  for  me.     It's  something  beyond  - 
The  booster  ride  itself  was  something  beyond  what 
I  could  really  comprehend.     So,  I  think  that's  - 
oh,  it's  a  very  important  part  of  it.    I  will  always 
remember  that  part  of  it.    But  I'm  kind  of  like 
with  Gene;  I  feel  that  even  though  the  three  of  us 
have  been  up  here  and  had  the  opportunity  to  observe 
the  Moon,  look  at  what  we  could  find  and  that  type 
of  thing,  I  think  that  we  have  an  obligation  to 
share  our  experiences  with  the  rest  of  the  people. 

Well,  Gordy,  that  is  a  difficult  question.     It  has 
been  a  fascinating  experience  from  so  many  detail 
aspects,     I  guess,  generally  speaking,  the  thing 
I  carry  back  with  me,  I  hope,  is  an  increased  per- 
spective not  only  for  the  history  of  the  solar 
system,  but  I  hope  for  the  future  of  mankind  with- 
in that  solar  system. 


LMP 


11  IT  38  08  LMP 


Gordy,  this  doesn't  mean  that  that  last  50,000  feet 
won't  stick  in  ray  mind  for  a  long  time. 

Roger,  Gene.     Again  for  all  three  crewmen.  Now 
that  you  are  returning  home  from  what  may  be  the 
last  lunar  exploration  of  this  century,  what  short- 
range  and  long-range  plans  do  each  of  you  have  for 
the  future? 

Well,  my  short-range  plans  are  certainly  to  enjoy 
Christmas  with  my  family,  think  ahout  the  flight, 
get  its  data  down  on  paper,    t^y  long-range  plans 
are  to  turn  around  and  look  at  the  next  flight 
whenever  that  may  he  and  put  my  efforts  and  ex- 
perience toward  that  flight  and  get  to  work  on  it. 

I  think  ray  short-range  plans  -  of  course,  first  of 
all  tomorrow  I  want  to  make  a  real  good  reentry, 
and  that's  kind  of  the  real  short-range  part  of  it. 
From  that  point  on,  as  I  mentioned  before,  I  think 
we  have  a  responsibility,  at  least,  I  feel  we  have 
responsibilities  to  share  our  experiences  with  the 
rest  of  the  people  not  only  in  the  United  States, 
but  with  the  people  of  the  rest  of  the  world.  Be- 
yond that,  I  also  have  a  strong  desire  to  continue 
participating  in  manned  space  flight  in  whatever 
capacity  that  I  might  be  able  to. 

Well,  I  can  do  nothing  but  echo  Gene  and  Ron's 
words  and  maybe  add,  Gordy,  that  I  hope  that  through 
the  next  few  years  I'll  be  able  to  make  some  contri- 
butions that  guarantee  that  this  Apolly  17  flight 
is  not  the  last  exploration  program  in  this  century 
in  space. 

Again,  for  all  the  crew.     Throughout  the  mission 
there  were  periodic  reports  from  each  of  you  about 
gastric  distress  in  one  form  or  another.     Does  this 
trouble  make  you  think  that  the  three  Skylab  mis- 
sions of  28,  56,  and  56  days  scheduled  for  next 
year  are  too  ambitious? 

No,  not  at  all.     I  don't  think  they  are  too  ambitious, 
Gordy.     I  think  that's  the  reason  we're  flying  each 
and  every  one  of  these  flights  one  at  a  time.  To 
find  out  if  there  really  are  potential  problems  in 


Tape  188/T 


diet  or  what  have  you,  and  I  think  we  solved  a  lot 
of  them  from  Apollo  15  and  l6,  and  those  few  that 
we  had  I'm  sure  we  can  solve,  accordingly,  prior 
to  Skylab  flying. 

CMP  I  don't  think  I  can  add  anything  to  that. 

LMP  I  think  we've  made  a  big  improvement  over  the  prob- 

lems that  occurred  on  Apollo  l6,  and  I  think  as  a 
resiilt  of  our  observations  in  conjunction  with  the 
medical  people,  primarily  at  NASA,  that  solution  - 
a  very  clear  solution  will  be  found  for  Skylab  and 
any  other  mission  we  want  to  fly. 

CC  Okay.     For  Ron  Evans.     You  seemed  almost  euphoric 

during  your  space  walk  yesterday,  and  other  space 
walkers  before  you  seemed  to  have  had  this  same 
reaction  to  the  experience.     Can  you  describe  what 
it  was  like  and  how  it  made  you  feel? 

CMP  Well,  I  think  for  those  of  you  who  had  the  oppor- 

tunity to  watch  yesterday,  it  is  pretty  obvious  how 
I  felt  out  there.     I'm  not  sure  euphoric  is  the 
word.     I  -  it's  an  opportunity  -  Well,  to  me  I  guess 
it  was  an  opportunity  to  be  what  I  call  a  "real 
space  man."    And  -  you're  out  there  in  the  deepness 
of  space,  with  nothing  there  but  your  spacesuit  on, 
and  you're  doing  the  job  that  has  to  be  done.  And 
we're  riding  around  in  space  out  here,  and  this  is 
in  a  capsule  and  we  look  out  the  window,  you  know, 
but  it's  nice  firm  feeling.     It's  a  solidly  built 
vehicle,  and  you  get  the  zero  g  effect  on  the  thing, 
but  you  don't  get  the  feeling  of  -  really  getting 
out  and  walking  in  space.     And  once  I  became  ac- 
customed to  what  it  was  like  in  the  EVA  environ- 
ment, then  you  relax  and  you  take  it  easy,  you  try 
to  accomplish  what  you  can  and  observe  what  you 
can  and  really  enjoy  it.     And  I  think  I  really 
enjoyed  it. 

LMP  I  had  a  hold  of  his  umbilical  most  of  that  time 

and  I  didn't  notice  that  he  was  ready  to  Jump  out 
into  space  if  that's  the  kind  of  euphoria  you're 
talking  about. 


Tape  188/8 


CC  Okay.     For  Eugene  Cernan  and  any  other  later  com- 

ments.    You  talked  a  lot  about  this  mission  being 
the  end  of  the  beginning,  but  a  lot  of  people  don't 
agree.    Recognizing  the  United  States  Is  stopping 
lunar  exporation  for  the  forseeable  future,  how 
do  you  feel? 

11  IT  h3  hQ    CDR  When  we  look  back  at  the  Apollo  Program  I  don't 

think  anyone  can  privately  to  themselves  and  pub- 
licly say  that  this  isn't  truly  indeed  really  a 
beginning  -  a  beginning  of  man's  really  first  ven- 
ture out  into  deep  space.    And  once  there's  a  be- 
ginning, there's  a  continuation.     The  probing  into 
(ieep  space  by  man,  the  next  landing  on  the  Moon,  a 
trip  to  Mars  may  not  be  for  10  years,  a  decade;  it 
may  not  be  until  the  end  of  this  century.     But  I 
personally  have  faith  that  it  will  happen.     I  think 
it's  a  restraint,  an  abnormal  restraint  of  man's 
intellect  at  this  point  in  time  to  restrict  or  tend 
to  think  that  he  will  restrict  his  own  feeling  of 
exploration,  his  own  quest  for  knowledge.     He's  had 
an  opportunity.     He's  proved  that  he  could  take 
advantage  of  this  opportunity,  and  I  think  that  the 
nature  of  mankind  is  going  to  just  press  on.  That's 
why  I  believe  not  -  we  of  Apollo  IT  -  yes,  it's  a 
beginning;  but  the  whole  Apollo  PrograJn  is  really 
the  true  beginning  of  what's  to  come  in  the  future. 
And  I  firmly  believe  that.     We  can  look  back  in  a 
100  years  or  200  years  and  the  5-year  or  10-year 
period  of  time,  we  may  be  slowed  down  here.  I 
think  we'll  be  -  we'll  be  lost  in  the  merit  of  what 
is  really  accomplished  during  the  next  several 
decades . 

CC  The  next  question  is  for  all  the  crew.     The  American 

people  seem  to  be  getting  fairly  blase  about  space 
flight  and  television  coverage  of  Apollo  IT  has  been 
at  a  minimum.     But  this  is  not  the  case  abroad.  For 
example,  in  the  Republic  of  Zaire,  the  former 
Belgian  Congo,  an  estimated  20  million  people  are 
watching  extensive  coverage  on  TV  sets  set  up  in 
the  villages.     What  do  you  have  to  say  to  the  people 
of  underdeveloped  nations? 


Tape  188/9 


LMP  Well,  Gordy,  first  of  all,  I'm  not  sure  that  the 

amount  of  television  coverage  is  necessarily  a 
measure  of  the  interest  of  the  American  people.  I 
don't  have  those  figures  at  hand.     I'm  sorry  to 
hear  that  the  adventures  we  had  and  the  insight 
that  maybe  we  gained  into  not  only  ourselves,  hut 
to  the  history  of  the  solar  system  was  not  shared 
extensively  with  the  American  people,  if  that's 
true.    As  far  as  the  rest  of  the  world  is  concerned, 
and  also  the  people  of  the  United  States  who  may 
not  participate  as  much  in  the  affluence  that  we 
all  would  like  to  share,  I  think  that's  what  space 
flight  in  general  and  the  Apollo  Program  in  particu- 
lar has  offered,  is  many  new  avenues  from  which  we 
can  provide  for  those  people  abroad  and  for  our  own 
people,  the  kind  of  quality  of  life  and  the  mate- 
rial -  including  the  material  quality  of  life  that 
everybody  aspires  to.     I  think  we've  just  begun  the 
adventure  of  understanding  how  -  what  we've  learned 
and  how  we've  learned  to  do  it  in  space  can  be  ap- 
plied to  these  particular  kinds  of  problems.  That 
is  one  of  the  great  challenges  that  I  think  NASA 
and  other  agencies  within  the  United  States  Govern- 
ment and  other  governments  abroad  have,  is  to  use 
this  base  of  technological  information  now  for 
their  own  people . 

11  17  ^7  26     CDR  I'd  like  to  just  add  to  that  very  briefly,  Gordy, 

that  America  has  led  the  way  into  space  in  the  past. 
I  believe  we  will  in  the  future.     But,  a  point  I 
tried  to  get  across  several  days  earlier  in  this 
flight  is  that  the  real  promise  of  the  future  for 
all  the  peoples  of  the  Earth  is  to  weld  themselves 
into  a  coherent  group  of  people  who  can  live  and 
work  together  and  then  enjoy  all  the  benefits  and 
all  the  knowledge  that  is  to  come  from  future  space 
explorations.     I  think  we  are  doing  this  not  just 
as  Americans  but  as  human  beings  and  everyone 
throughout  these  countries  throughout  the  world 
who  are  watching  us  right  now  are  also  human  beings 
no  different  than  we  are.     It's  their  accomplishment 
as  well  as  it  is  ours . 

CC  Question  11  is  for  Jack.     Do  you  think  the  United 

States  waited  too  long  to  send  a  geologist  to  the 
Moon? 


Tape  188/10 


LMP  We're  grinning  because  I  think  we  predicted  that 

question.    Gordy,  I  think  the  United  States  waited 
too  long  to  go  into  space  in  the  first  place,  and 
I  think  they're  prohahly  going  to  wait  too  long  to 
go  hack.     I  will  always  feel  that  way  no  matter  who 
goes  or  what  qualifications  he  may  have  or  may  think 
he  has.     I  think  that  the  most  important  thing  that 
mayhe  I  have  done  is  to  -  to  he  able  to  show  that 
we  can  build  a  transportation  system  that  allows 
you  to  fly  people  of  a  wide  variety  of  disciplines. 
And  I  think  that  we  have  shown  that,  and  I  think 
that  it's  occurred  at  about  as  soon  as  possible 
within  the  Apollo  Program. 

CC  The  last  couple  of  questions  are  in  a  lighter  vein 

for  Ron  Evans.    There  has  been  a  lot  of  discussion 
about  missing  a  pair  of  scissors  in  the  command 
module.    Who  really  lost  the  scissors? 

CMP  Well,  I  think  it  must  have  been  one  of  those  other 

guys  because  I  was  asleep  and  I  got  up  the  next 
morning  and  it  was  gone . 

LMP  Didn't  happen  on  m.y  watch. 

CC  And  also,  Ron,  did  you  squeaking  of  those  mice  on 

board  keep  you  awake? 

CMP  No,  the  mice  really  didn't  -  there  are  plenty  of 

other  things  going  on  inside  the  spacecraft  here 
that  we  can  hardly  even  hear  the  mice.     As  a  matter 
of  fact  I  really  haven't  heard  them  yex . 

CC  Okay.    This  completes  the  list  of  questions  sub- 

mitted by  the  newsmen  here  in  Houston.    There  are 
a  little'  less  than  7  minutes  left  on  our  scheduled 
time  for  any  other  further  remarks  you  might  like 
to  make . 


CDR  Yes,  Gordy,  I  think  we'd  like  to  take  this  oppor- 

tunity to  each  say  a  word  or  tvro. 

LMP  Well,  just  briefly,  Gordy,  I  feel  that  I  have  done 

something  that's  vei-y  significant  here  in  my  life. 
I  hope  that  -  and  will  do  everything  I  can  to  see 
that  it  is  not  the  most  significant  thing  I  ever 
do.    But,  I  feel  that  the  fact  that  I  had  the 


Tape  188/11 


opportunity  to  do  in  a  large  part  to  the  tangible 
and  intangible  effects  that  my  mother  and  father 
had  on  my  life  and  to  them  I  send  my  thanks  and  I 
hope  that  I  continue  to  live  up  to  their  expectations. 

CMP  You  know  on  Apollo  17,  here,  we've  had  two  outstand- 

ing vehicles  and  that's  the  -  don't  let  me  get  you 
vrong,  I'm  not  discounting  the  booster  either.  But, 
I 've  watched  a  lot  of  people  work  on  a  lot  of  space- 
craft, and  I'm  very  proud  to  be  able  to  say  that 
all  the  vehicles  that  have  been  associated  with 
Apollo  IT  have  been  outstanding.     And,  the  reason 
they  are  outstanding  is  because  of  the  people  that 
have  been  working  on  them.     And,  I'd  like  to  give 
our  thanks  and  the  well-done  to  people  who  worked 
on  our  spacecraft . 

CDR  Gordy,  prior  to  leaving  and  I  guess  I  can  certainly 

assume  during  the  flight  we've  carried  many,  many 
well  wishes  and  carried  many  prayers  aboard  from 
people  throughout  the  world.    I  personally  believe 
that  those  prayers  played  no  small  part  in  any  suc- 
cess that  we  were  able  to  achieve  on  this  flight. 
I  ask  those  people,  however,  to  continue  their 
prayers  in  particular  for  some  of  our  friends  and 
some  of  our  comrades  who  are  still  in  southeast 
Asia  -  POWs,  MIAs  who  may  not  -  although  God  willing 
I  hope  they  will  -  but  who  may  not  have  the  oppor- 
tunities to  get  home  and  enjoy  the  Christmas  that 
we're  looking  forward  to.     And  with  that  from 
Apollo  IT  spacecraft  America  on  December  I8,  19T2, 
we  all  wish  you  a  very,  very  Merry  Christmas  and  a 
happy  holiday  season.    Godspeed  and  God  bless  you 
all. 

11  IT  53  12    CC  Thank  you,  guys.    That  was  a  good  show.  We 

enjoyed  every  minute. 

IMP  Okay,  Gordy.     I  presume  you  want  to  go  back  to 

SCIENCE  in  the  comm  configuration,  and  we're  getting 
squared  away  here  for  a  big  VERB  k&. 

CC  Okay.     That's  affirmative.     Back  to  SCIENCE,  please. 

11  IT  58  1^8    CDR  Gordy,  if  you  like,  I'll  go  ahead  and  maneuver  now. 

Ilci.    We  want  to  hold  the  manuver  until  55. 


Tape  188/12 


CDR  Okay . 

11  18  05  06    CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    We're  ready  to  go  with  that  VERB  HQ  and 

then  the  VERB  kg  as  listed  a  little  bit  early 
here.     That'll  put  us  in  the  hot-soak  attitude. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo.    Be  with  you  in  about  30  seconds. 

CC  Okay . 

11  18  07  21    CDR  Houston,  America  is  on  her  way. 

CC  Okeydoke . 

11  18  12  llT    LMP  Houston,  17 's  getting  the  high  gain  up,  if  you 

want  it. 

CC  Yes.    We  think  we're  already  on  it,  Jack. 

LMP  Well,  I  meant  to  have  the  other  angles. 

CC  I  think  you  can  just  leave  it  alone .     It  is  holding 

some  -  during  the  maneuver  and  should  hold  until 
the  end  of  it. 

.  LMP  Okay.    The  maneuver's  over,  Gordy. 

CC  Roger. 

LMP  Now  we ' re  even . 

CDR  Hello,  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy.    With  these  relatively  fixed  attitudes 

most  of  the  afternoon,  we  got  the  -  the  tunnel 
totally  dry,  but  the  forward  hatch  is  awful  wet. 
I  just  thought  I'd  throw  that  cut. 

CC  Okay . 


Tape  188/13 


11  18  36  53  CDR 
CC 

CDR 

11  18  37  33  CC 


Houston,  America.     If  you're  ready,  we'll  maneuver. 

Stand  by;  we're  checking.    Not  yet.  Temperatures 
aren't  up  as  high  as  they  would  like.     We'd  like 
to  hold  5  minutes  at  least. 

Okay;  we'll  just  stand  by  for  your  call  on  the 
meneuver. 


Okay . 


END  OF  TAPE 


Tape  189/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  TAPE  TRAUSCRIPTION 


11  18        3k    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead,  Houston. 

CC  You  gijiys  aren't  going  to  believe  this,  but  Santa 

Glaus  just  walked  in  the  MOCR  with  a  long  white 
beard,  red  suit,  black  boots  and  all,  and  he's 
passing  out  presents  to  everybody. 

LMP  How  did  he  get  there  before  we  did?    We  just  saw 

him  up  here  about  5  -  5  days  ago . 

CC  Well,  he  beat  you  back. 

11  18  U6  2k    CDR  Gordy,  I'd  -  I'd  believe  anything.     Has  he  got 

anything  with  our  name  on  it? 

CC  I'll  ask  him.     I  don't  see  anything  yet. 

CC  America,  Houston.     You  can  go  ahead  and  start  the 

VERB  k9  maneuver.    Have  a  change  in  the  high  gain 
angles,  tho\igh,  as  printed  there.    Make  it  a 
plus  30  and  190,  instead  of  minus  kO  and  90. 
That's  a  plus  30  and  190  on  the  high  gain. 

CDR  Okay,  I  got  them,  Gordy. 

LMP  Gordy ,  when  you  get  a  minute ,  would  you  ask  one 

of  the  Surgeons  there  what  my  heart  rate  peaked 
out  at  in  the  last  15  minutes  or  so? 

CC  Okay,  I'll  do  that.     I'm  just  looking  at  some  of 

the  presents  here.    Mine  was  a  little  Skylab  food 
can  -  flip-top  can.     It  says,  "CAPCOM's  Postf light 
Dinner."    And  I'm  pretty  sure  there's  absolutely 
nothing  in  it,  but  I'm  afraid  to  pull  the  lid  off. 
The  Surgeon's  got  a  little  plastic  telephone  that 
says  "For  Private  Conversations  Only." 

LMP  (Laughter) 

CC  And  your  heart  rate  went  to  -  - 


Tape  189/2 


IMP  I'd  "be  more  worried  about  what  might  he  -  - 

CC  Your  heart  -  - 

LMP  Ought  to  be  more  worried  about  what  might  be  in 

that  can,  Gordy. 

CC  (Chuckle)  Yes,  I  am.     Geno's  heart  rate  peaked  at 

115  to  120. 

11  18  i+8  52    LMP  Okay,  what  did  the  LMP's  peak  at?    He  wasn't  do- 

ing anything. 

CDR  I'm  not  even  on  biomed,  as  a  matter  of  fact, 

Gordy . 

CC  Oh,  I'm  sorry.    My  mistake.     (Chuckle)    Not  the 

Surgeon ' s .     That  was  the  LMP ' s . 

CC  Stovall,  on  the  front  row  there,  got  a  little 

shovellike  gadget  with  a  sign  on  it  that  says 
"Trenching  Tool." 

LMP  Beautiful.  (Laiighter) 

CDR  I  thought  they  might  give  him  a  coin.    A  flipable 

coin. 

CC  He's  got  a  coin  like  that.     It  says  "CSM  Active" 

on  both  sides . 

11  18  50  02    CDR  Yes,  that's  what  I  figured. 

11  18  55  2k    CC  America,  Houston.    We're  ready  for  a  spinup  now. 

LMP  Okay . 

CDR  We're  spinning,  Gordy. 

11  18  57  16    CC  Okay.     It's  looking  good. 

11  19  ih  53    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  to  throw  a  few 

switches  on  panel  230  and  try  to  get  the  HF 
antennas  retracted.  Over. 

LMP  Okay.    Go  ahead. 


Tape  189/3 


CC  Okay.     First  of  all,  RADAE  -  OFF. 

11  19  15  1^    LMP  Okay,  Gordy,  the  RADAR  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay;  then  HF  AliTEOTA  nianher  2,  RETRACT.  And 

give  us  a  mark,  please.     It  should  take  about  - 
a  little  over  2  minutes. 

LMP  Okay,  going  to  RETRACT  - 

11  19  15  30    LMP  MARK  it.    Oh,  HF-2?    Gordy,  I  started  1.  I'm 

sorry. 

CC  That's  all  right.     Keep  it.     It  doesn't  matter; 

just  keep  working  on  1  there.    Keep  it  in  RETRACT. 

LMP  Okay,  it's  in  RETRACT  -  and  stayed  there. 

CC  America,  Houston.    As  you  come  up  on  roll  of  30, 

■we'd  like  you  to  -  Okay,  "break,  break  -  ve  vould 
like  the  AHTENNA  1  switched  to  OFF  now. 

11  19  IT  5^    LMP  It  is  OFF. 

CC  And  we  got  a  good  retract.     Okay,  for  the  guy  on 

the  -  - 

LMP  Gordy? 

CC  Go  ahead. 

LMP  It  was  still  barber  pole  when  I  went  to  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  that's  the  one  we  had  trouble  with  before. 

That's  what  we  expected.     Okay,  you  can  go 
number  2  to  RETRACT  now. 

LMP  Okay,  ntjmber  2  -  RETRACT  - 

11  19  18  30    LMP  MARK. 

CC  Okay,  and  for  whoever  is  driving  the  spaceship 

there,  we'd  like  to  stop  the  roll  -  stop  the  PTC 
at  a  roll  angle  of  30  instead  of  what's  in  the 


Tape  189/^ 


Flight  Plan.    That's  30  degrees.    And  you're 
passing  through  73  right  now.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     I  got  it.     I'm  looking  at  NOUN  20. 

We'll  stop  it  at  30. 

CC  Okay,  and  I  have  different  high  gains  to  go  with 

that  attitude.    They'll  he  minus  2h  and  206. 


CDR  Okay.     We  got  them. 

CO  Jack,  Houston.    You  should  he  retracted  now  and 

have  a  gray.    And  you  can  go  OFF  if  you  do. 

LMP  That's  affirm  and  congratulations. 


11  19  21  05    LMP  And  the  switch  is  OFF. 

CC  Okay,  and  those  high  gain  angles  I  passed  you  are 

prohahly  misleading.     It  looks  like  the  high  gain 
ought  to  just  hang  on  when  you  stop  this  maneuver. 

LMP  Okay . 

CO  America,  Houston.     It'll  be  about  5  or  6  minutes 

until  we  finish  the  dump  before  we  can  go  ahead 
with  that  VERB  U9 ,  in  case  you  got  something  to  do. 

11  19  22  37    CDR  Okay,  Gordy.     Thank  you. 

11  19  29  51    CC  Okay,  America.    We're  ready  for  the  maneuver  now. 

CDR  Okay ,  Houston .    Here  she  comes . 

CDR  America  is  on  her  way  again. 

CC  Okay . 

CDR  Gordo,  I  see  two  DAP  changes  here.     You  want  to 

change  this  one  during  the  maneuver  or  -  after 
the  maneuver  -  and  then  the  next  one  before  the 
next  maneuver? 


CC 


We  want  the  DAP  load  after  you  get  to  attitude 
and  then  the  other  DAP  load  before  you  start  the 
next  maneuver. 


Tape  189/5 


CDR  Sounds  -  that  sounds  good  here.  Okay. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We  need  the  UV  cover  closed. 

The  Sun ' s  getting  in  there , 

11  19  32  17    LMP  CLOSED,  Gordy. 

CC  Thank  you. 

CC  We  should  be  safe  now.     Open  the  UV  cover,  please, 

11  19  35  05    LMP  Gordy,  it's  OPEN. 

CC  Thank  you. 

LMP  Doesn't  it  "bother  you  to  wield  such  power,  Gordy? 

CC  I'm  getting  accustomed  to  it. 

11  19  38  2h    LMP  Gordy,  for  the  first  time  in  seemingly  several 

days ,  we  s  ee  the  Earth . 

CC  Roger.    Standing  hy  for  a  weather  report. 

LMP  (Laughter)    Afraid  I  don't  know  whether  or  not 

there's  any  weather  down  there. 

*  CC  Guess  you  can't  see  too  much  of  it,  hvhl 

LMP  No,  sir.    You're  down  to  a  fingernail,  if  you'll 

pardon  the  expression.     It  -  Oh,  let's  see  -  it's 
about  a  -  what  do  you  think.  Gene?  -  about  a 
one-eighth  Earth  -  one-sixth  to  one-eighth  Earth? 

11  19  39  2h    IMP  Got  picture,  Ron.     (Chuckle)    You  can  see  it 

later.  (Laughter) 

11  19  h6  3T    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo,  286:52  on  the  Flight  Plan  and 

287 :U0  -  Is  there  an  update  on  that?  CMP  put  his 
biomed  harness  on  -  oh,  I  guess  U  to  6  hours  ago. 


Tape  189/6 


CC  Yes,  let  me  check  on  that.    I  -  There  was  some- 

thing on  this  when  I  left  last  night,  but  I'll 
have  to  get  the  latest  here. 

11  19  hT  Ik    CDR  Okay. 

11  19  5U  26    CC  America,  we're  ready  now  for  the  steps  at 

1  -  286:1+3  -  CMC  MODE  -  FREE  and  AUTO.     VERB  it8, 
VERB  1+9,  and  so  forth.    On  the  biomed,  we're 
going  to  leave  it  up  to  you.    Whoever  -  draw 
straws  or  whatever  -  whoever  you  decide  to  wear 
the  biomed  tonight,  it's  your  choice. 

CDR  That's  easy.    Jack  and  I  will  put  it  on  in  the 

morning.    How's  that? 

CC  Okay . 

CMP  You  get  to  watch  Captain  America  tonight  then. 

CC  Okay,  Captain. 

11  19  57  35    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  OMNI  Alfa. 

11  19  59  h3    CC  America,  Houston.    We  can  take  the  high  gain  now 

that  you're  there.    The  angles  in  the  book, 
minus  37  and  1*8  and  AUTO. 

11  20  OI+  1+3    CC  America,  Houston.     We're  ready  for  VERB  7I+. 

CDR  Coming  at  you,  Gordo. 

11  20  OI+  52    CDR  MARK  it. 

CC  Okay,  we  got  a  good  dximp.     Thank  you. 

11  20  07  52    CMP  Okeydoke. 


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Tape  190/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUUD  VOICE  TRMSCEIPTION 


11  20  IT  30    CC  America,  Houston.  Over. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.    We've  been  thinking  about  the  -  the  busted 

Snoopy  hat  and  have  a  suggestion  on  a  -  on  a  con- 
figuration that  we'd  like  to  present  to  you  as  an 
alternative  to  the  plan  you  mentioned  earlier.  See 
what  you  think  about  it. 

CDR  Hey,  Gordo. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Can  -  can  you  hold  off  with  that  update?    Ron's  off 

the  headset  right  now,  and  it'll  be  a  few  minutes. 
And  I'd  like  to  hear  him  -  have  him  hear  that. 

CC  Okay.    And  just  as  a  brief  introduction  before  he 

gets  on,  we're  really  thinking  about  letting  Jack 
have  the  broken  one.    Nothing  personal,  Jack,  but 
think  that  it's  probably  more  important  that  you 
and  Ron  have  the  -  the  all-up  ones.  Over. 

CDR  Yes,  we've  already  discussed  that,  but  let  -  let 

Ron  talk  over  with  what  his  plaji  is,  and  let's  hear 
yours . 

CC  Okay,  give  me  a  call  when  you're  ready. 

CDR  Okay.     And  for  food  for  thought,  you  might  think 

about  that.     We  looked  at  a  way  of  Just  taping  the 
electronic  part  of  the  lightweight  headset  right 
to  -  to  his  helmet.     It  looked  pretty  good.  So 
chew  on  that  one  for  a  while,  and  we'll  be  back 
with  you  and  you  can  come  up  with  your  plan. 

CC  Yes,  that  sounds  like  that's  -  that's  our  plan, 

essentially,  but  I'll  go  through  it  in  case  there's 
anything  that  either  you  or  us  haven't  thought  of 
about  it. 

CDR  Okay. 

CC  America,  Houston. 


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LMP  Go  ahead. 

11  20  22  08    CC  We'd  like  to  give  you  what  EECOM  has  said  should  be 

the  final       fan  configuration  for  this  mission. 

FAN  2,  OFF,  and  3,  AUTO. 

11  20  22  26    LMP  Okay,        FM  2  is  going  OFF  and  3  to  AUTO. 

And  this  is  truly  a  historic  event. 

CC  It's  been  a  pleasure  to  share  it  with  you,  Jack. 

CDR  Isn't  that  the  way  we  started?    Isn't  that  the  way 

we  started? 

CC  I  think  it  is.  Affirm. 

LMP  Very  appropriate.     Ify  congratulations  and  ny  hat 

off  to  the  EECOM. 

CC  Thank  you,  sir. 

11  20  23  55    CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  you  to  spin  it  up  on 

B-2  and  D-2,  and  we  have  one  change  in  the  HIGH  GAIN 
REACQ  and  NARROW  angles.     Instead  of  a  YAW  of  90, 
we  want  a  YAW  of  h^. 

11  20  2h  19    CDR  Okay,  I'll  set  them  at  a  YAW  of  U5. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  You  probably  weren't  aware  of  it,  but  your  IR  is 

chilly.    Would  you  turn  it  on  up  until  bedtime  to 
warm  it  up  a  little,  please? 

11  20  25  21    CDR  Okay,  that's  only  -  that's  only  appropriate.  IR 

is  ON. 

CC  Roger. 

11  20  25  i+5    CMP  Okay,  Gordy.     I  just  spun  up  America  for  you. 

CC  Thank  you. 

11  21  ok  03    CMP  Houston,  America.     The  -  the  CMP  is  in  biomed. 

CC  Okajs  CMP. 


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CMP  Very  good. 

CC  This  probably  isn't  too  good  a  time  to  have  an 

emergency. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CC  The  reason  I  say  that  is  we  got  a  big  Chinese  feast 

going  on  here  in  the  MOCR. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Oh,  you  do? 

CC  Had  some  food  brought  in,  and  everybody's  probably 

more  interested  in  eating  than  the  America  right 
now,  I  must  admit. 

CMP  (Laughter)  Uh-oh. 

CMP  Houston,  America.     How's  the  delivery  girl  situa- 

tion?    Is  it  as  good  as  it  used  to  be? 

CC  Oh,  yes.     Better,  if  anything. 

CMP  Outstanding. 

11  21  06  21    CC  Ron,  I  have  some  words  on  our  suggestion,  probably 

the  same  as  what  you've  done  already  on  rigging  up 
the  headsets  for  -  for  entry  tomorrow  any  time  you 
have  a  free  moment  to  listen. 

CMP  Oh,  sure.     Go  ahead.     I'm  just  sitting  here  right 

now. 

CC  Okay.     Geno  mentioned  that  you'd  already  essentially 

taped  the  electronic  part  to  your  Snoopy  hat.  I 
guess,  first  of  all,  we're  suggesting  that  you  rig  - 
rig  this  up  for  Jack,  and  let  you  have  the  good  one 
just  to  be  sure.    And  I'll  -  I'll  q^uickly  run 
through  the  steps  we  have.     I  think  maybe  this  will 
be  the  easiest  way.     And  you  can  then  listen  and 
if  you've  done  it  already  or  if  you  -  if  this  men- 
tions something  that  you  haven't  thought  of,  it'll 
at  least  accomplish  the  job.     They  have  about 
15  steps  here,  but  I  don't  think  it'll  take  long  to 
summarize  it.     They  suggest  taking  the  headband  off 
the  lightweight  headset;  in  other  words,  taking  the 
electronic  part  off  the  headband,  straighten  the 
mike  boom,  and  straighten  the  -  the  comm  carrier 


Tape  190/lt 


boom,  the  appropriate  one  for  whichever  ear  Jack 
wears  his  molded  earpiece  in,  then  rotate  the 
lightweight  headset  mike  boom  90  degrees .  They 
found  that  was  necessary  to  get  it  to  face  your 
mouth  when  -  when  you  end  up  with  this  all  taped 
on  there.     You  have  to  sort  of  twist  it,  force  it 
90  degrees.     Then  lay  the  lightweight  headset  boom 
along  the  coram  carrier  boom  with  the  electronic 
part  on  the  outside  of  your  -  your  earpiece  on  the 
Snoopy  hat.    And  the  -  the  hose  that  goes  to  the 
molded  earpiece  facing  downward  coming  out  down  and 
with  the  -  the  mike  boom  1  inch  beyond  the  comm 
carrier  mike  boom  tip.    And  then  tape  the  two  booms 
together  for  the  entire  length  of  the  comm  carrier 
boom.    And  then  rebend  the  whole  works  back  so  that 
the  tip  is  back  in  front  of  your  mouth.    And  then 
tape  the  electronics  box  onto  the  side  of  the  ear- 
piece, and  you  can  run  tape  all  the  way  around  the 
lower  part  of  the  earpiece,  and  you  can  lift  up  on 
the  leather-covered  doughnuts  on  the  inside  there, 
pull  that  loose  and  then  rim  tape  underneath.  Just 
pull  the  lower  part  of  it  loose,  run  tape  all  the 
way  aroimd  to  really  securely  anchor  the  electronics 
box  to  the  outside  of  the  -  the  earpiece  so  there's 
no  chance  that  that  will  slip  off  or  shift.  Then 
you  can  kind  of  push  the  leather  earseal  back  down 
on  top  of  the  tape  inside.     Let's  see.    Then  -  - 

CMP  Yes.     So  far  -  so  far,  we're  right  with  you. 

11  21  09  U5    CC  Okay.    Then  take  the  comm  carrier  electrical  lead, 

and  double  it  back  on  itself,  and  -  and  tape  it 
together  so  that  it  doesn't  flop  aroiind.     And  now 
you've  got  it  essentially  set  up.     I  -  I've  lost 
my  place  here  in  the  sequence.    Just  a  second. 
Okay.    Place  the  molded  earpiece  -  Well,  actually, 
one  further  modification  was  then  to  run  the  -  the 
hose,  which  is  now  external,  up  underneath  the 
leather  doughnut  and  out  through  the  ear  opening, 
and  -  and  pull  it  on  through.    Now  you  -  to  put 
this  all  on,  you'll  have  to  stick  the  molded  ear- 
piece in  your  ear  and  then  as  you  pull  the  Snoopy 
on,  sort  of  pull  the  slack  out  of  the  -  the  audio 
hose  there  so  you  don't  end  up  with  a  lot  of  hose 
coiled  up  in  the  earcup.    And  the  -  the  remaining 
hose  then  just  sort  of  dangles  down  beside  your 
neck.     Fasten  the  chinstrap,  and  make  sure  that  the 
hose  isn't  pinched  or  -  anywhere.     Readjust  the 


Tape  190/5 


mike  boom  to  a  half  inch  from  your  -  in  front  of 
your  lips,  and  make  sure  one  of  the  foam  parts  of 
the  mike  boom  is  facing  your  mouth.    Okay.  Then 
you  just  route  the  -  the  electrical  lead  and  the  - 
the  plug  on  down  through  the  slot  and  the  ICG,  and 
put  -  put  all  the  excess  length  of  the  connectors 
and  the  -  the  excess  stuff  down  inside  the  ECG  [sic] 
so  it  doesn't  flop  around,  and  of  course  mate  the 
pins,  the  connectors,  and  snap  the  ICG  closed  at 
the  front  to  be  sure  that  it ' 11  capture .     One  thing 
they  did  tiy  in  this  configuration  is  -  was  -  was 
to  see  if  you  could  get  the  helmet  on  over  all  that, 
in  case  a  suited  reentry  became  necessary  at  short 
notice,  and  it  does  go  on.    Randy  Hester  tried  it. 
And  with  just  a  little  cocking  of  the  head,  you  can 
get  the  helmet  on  over.     How's  that  sound  to  you? 

11  21  12  2k    CMP  Hey,  Gordy.     That  sounds  essentially  what  we  were 

thinking  about.    We  hadn't  got  to  the  extent  of 
trying  to  hook  them  up  yet,  you  know,  put  them 
together  yet,  but  we're  thinking  along  the  same 
lines  anyhow.    And  you  brought  up  a  couple  of  points 
that  are  good. 

CC  Okay.     If  you  got  any  questions  or  anything,  I've 

got  a  demo  model  sitting  right  in  front  of  me  here, 
so  that  we  can  just  discuss  it  real  time  as  you  get 
it  set  up.     I  assume  you're  going  to  try  to  work 
that  up  tonight.     Is  that  right? 

CMP  Yes,  we  can,  I  guess.     Okay,  and  the  -  the  reason 

you'd  rather  have  Jack  do  it  than  me  is  simply  - 
simply  because  of  the  redun  -  rediand  -  I  can't  say 
the  word.     (Laughter)  Redundancy. 

CC  That's  affirmative.     It  gives  you  and  Gene  the  - 

the  prime  -  best  equipment ,  and  we  see  no  -  no 
reason  why  this  won't  work,  but  like  you  say,  it's 
only  one  mike  in  place  of  two  on  the  other  ones . 

LMP  I'm  surprised  you  didn't  have  us  tape  two  headsets 

to  the  Snoopy  helmet . 

CC  Well,  Jack,  we'll  just  take  that  chance. 

LMP  Well,  it  took  ik  days,  but  I  finally  know  where  I 

stand. 


Tape  190/6 


CC  I  do  have  a  question.    Well,  first  of  all  I  give 

you  a  little  weather  for  the  South  Pacific  tomorrow, 
if  you're  interested. 

LMP  Stand  by  and  let's  get  the  commander  on  the  headset 

here  in  a  minute.    Then  you  can  pass  it  up. 

CC  Okay. 

CC  Not  had. 

CMP  Well,  I'll  let  her  go  this  time. 

CC  Okay,  we  got  them. 

11  21  19  39    CMP  Okay,  we'll  torque  at  59:^5- 

CC  All  righty. 

11  21  20  11    CC  America,  we  would  like  to  stop  the  roll  this  time 

around  as  you  come  up  on  1^+6  roll. 

11  21  20  28    CMP  Okay,  we'll  stop  it  on  lk6  roll. 

11  21  25  k9    CC  America,  Houston.    When  you  get  her  stopped  there, 

we'd  like  you  to  hold  the  attitude  lontil  we  get  the 
DSE  dUDip  before  doing  the  VERB  kg. 

11  21  26  00     CVSP  Okay,  Gordo.     We're  there  now. 

11  21  28  20    CDR  Hey,  Houston;  America.    We  can  take  those  words  on 

the  weather  in  the  recovery  area,  if  you  like. 

CC  Okay.     It  can  "be  summed  up  hy  one  word,  "Excellent." 

2000,  scattered,  and  high-scattered  are  forecast. 
I'm  looking  at  a  satellite  picture  -  high-resolution 
satellite  picture  that  shows  you  in  the  middle  of  a 
big  high,  and  she's  just  -  very  faint  hint  of  clouds 
in  the  area.    And  the  trend  of  the  weather  movement 
is  such  that  you're  going  into  a  -  an  even  clearer 
area  by  tomorrow.    The  wind  will  be  090  at  10; 
visibility,  10;  299^  on  the  altimeter.     It's  of  no 
consequence  to  the  Navy  guys,  but  the  landlubber 
will  be  glad  to  learn  that  there  is  3-foot  wave 
heights,  and  the  teu^ierature  is  77  degrees.  Over. 

CDR  Sounds  like  a  fighter  pilot's  day  to  come  aboard. 

I  think  they'll  be  able  to  take  those  seas. 


Tape  190 /T 


11  21  29  37    CC  (Laughter)    Roger.     Okay,  you  can  start  the  VERB  kg 

if  you  wish. 

11  21  30  U2    CC  America,  Houston.     One  other  request  you  might  be 

thinking  ahout  that  you'd  -  and  that  is  any  delta 
to  the  nominal  entry  stowage  that  we  might  not  know 
ahout  we'd  like  to  know  about  before  you  go  to  sleep 
tonight  so  we  can  think  about  the  e.g. 

CMP  Okay,  Gordo.    We'll  be  able  to  give  you  those. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We're  ready  to  spin  it  up. 

10  21  ho  3k    CMP  Okay. 

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APOLLO  17  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


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Tape  192/1 


APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUND  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 


11  22  38  36    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Gorao,  we're  just  finishing  chow  and  doing  a  little 

cleaning  up,  and  I'm  doubleche eking  the  stowage  and 
so  forth.    But  we  do  have  a  minute.    Is  there  by 
any  chance  any  late  news?    Anything  going  on  today 
that  might  he  of  interest? 

CC  Okay.     I  haven't  heard  of  anything.     You  did  get  a 

news  report  this  morning?    Is  that  correct? 

CDR  Yes.    We  sure  did. 

CC  Okay.     I'll  see  if  there's  any  deltas  to  that. 

It'll  take  me  a  couple  of  minutes. 

LMP  Okay.    How's  the  Houston  weather  today? 

CC  It  was  overcast  hut  warmer.    Kind  of  standard 

winter  weather  for  around  here .    Not  nearly  so 
frigid  as  it  has  heen  the  last  couple  days . 

11  22  39  26    LMP  Okeydoke. 
11  22  5k  07    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  America. 

CC  Go  ahead.  Gene . 

CDR  Okay,  Gordo;  the  entry  stowage  will  he  as  -  as  in 

the  Flight  Plan  Supplement,  with  the  exception 
that  there  is  a  -  a  small  LM  Jettison  bag,  max 
weight  of  about  25  pounds,  which  will  be  -  which 
is  already,  as  a  matter  of  fact,  packed  in  A-T- 

CC  Okay .    We  got  that . 

CDR  And  the  presently  used  jettison  bag  weight  really 

isn't  very  much  at  all,  that's  just  for  house- 
keeping trash  and  so  forth.     We  will  tie  between 
A-2  and  A-3,  and  there's  probably  not,  at  the 
most ,  more  than  5  pounds  there . 

CC  Okay. 


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CDR  And  right  now  we  haven't  seen  any  specific  spot 

to  tie  down  the  LEV  As .  If  you've  got  a  recomnien- 
dation,  we'll  take  it.  If  not,  we'll  just  pick  a 
spot  down  in  the  LEB  area  to  tie  them  down. 

11  22  55  29    CC  Okay.     I'll  see  if  we  have  a  plan  for  that. 

11  23  16  02    CC  America,  Houston.    I've  got  an  update  to  the  news. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    America's  listening. 

CC  Okay.     It's  some  more  like  human  interest  stuff 

rather  than  pure  news .     One  thing  the  -  in  the 
Liberty  Bowl  football  game  Georgia  Tech  beat 
Iowa  State,    V/ell,  I  guess  it's  not  quite  over 
yet  -  this  is  a  fourth  quarter  score,  Georgia 
Tech  31,  Iowa  State  2k.    And,  there  is  a  story 
about  the  Moonship  that's  streaking  smoothly 
homeward.    There's  nothing  in  it  that  you  don't 
know  about,  though ,  except  maybe  one  little  part 
of  the  article  describing  a  quote  from  William  E. 
Fastie  of  Johns  Hopkins  University,  member  of  the 
Orbital  Science  Team,  who  said  that  a  rather 
startling  discovery  is  the  Moon  is  simply  not 
degassing.     It  has  nothing  left  in  terms  of  any- 
thing that  you  think  -  that  can  create  an  atmos- 
phere.   Much  to  his  surprise,  even  the  amount  of 
hydrogen,  an  element  that  should  have  been  the 
most  abundant  outgassing  candidate,  turned  out  to 
be  about  1  percent  of  its  predicted  value.  He 
speculated  that  the  absenco  f  a  planetary  magnetic 
field  on  the  Moon  works  to  the  purge  surface  of 
any  atmospheric  accumulation.    The  atoms  of  gases 
that  have  vented  to  the  surface,  he  theorized, 
pick  up  an  electrical  charge  then  -  and  are  then 
swept  away  by  the  solar  wind,  which  is  a  stream 
of  electrified  atoms  pushing  far  out  into  the  solar 
system  of  the  Sun.     Former  President  Triiman  is 
stabilized  is  the  word  they  are  using  now.  His 
heart  condition  is  unchanged.    His  kidneys  are 
failing  him,  and  he's  termed  to  be  still  in  a  very 
serious  condition  but  resting  comfortably.  A 
declining  birth  rate  and  a  desire  for  ftswer  children 
in  the  years  ahead  have  caused  the  census  bureau 
to  reduce  sharply  its  estimates  of  future  popula- 
tion growth  in  the  United  States .     By  the  year 
2000,  for  example,  the  estimate  is  now  20  million 
fewer  people  than  had  been  forecast  on  the  basis 


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of  previous  statistics .     Reduction  could  have 
major  implications  for  American  society  in  many 
areas.    And  it  reflects  changes  in  birth  and  child 
planning,  which  now  suggest  that  the  U.S.  may 
eventually  reach  zero  popiilation  growth.     The  last 
one  is  pretty  interesting,  sind  more  so  if  you  can 
see  the  picture  that  goes  with  the  story,  about 
James  L.  G.  Fitzpatrick  who  for  kO  years  has  been 
interested  in  copying  natural  flight.     And  he  has 
now  designed  a  hatlike  flying  machine  that  may  be 
ready  for  a  test  run  next  summer.  Fitzpatrick 
said  that  the  first  -  that  first,  every  small  part 
of  the  ungainly  structure  must  be  tested  carefully 
Otherwise  you  end  up  either  in  a  disaster  or  a 
grave,  and  we  try  to  avoid  that  sort  of  thing. 
After  three  decades  of  trying,  Fitzpatrick,  who's 
66,  believes  his  latest  device  comes  closest  to 
the  real  thing,  although  it  still  needs  a  small 
motor  to  flap  the  wings .     Asked  whether  his  device 
as  yet  unnamed,  works  on  the  flight  principle  of 
a  bird,  he  said,  "I  don't  know  anyone  who  knows 
what  principle  a  bird  works  on,  but  I  guess  this 
is  more  like  a  bat  of  a  pterodactyl."  Fitzpatrick 
ornithopter  or  flapping  wing  airplane  is  equipped 
with  cockpit  controls  that  include  a  throttle  that 
regulates  the  1-horsepower  engine  and  up-and-down 
flight .     Other  equipment  includes  rudder  pedals 
to  regulate  a  power  steering  system,  a  parking 
brake,  a  pseudopaddagieum,  I  don't  know  what  that 
one  -  that  word  is,  it's  a  new  one  on  me,  to  trans 
fer  power  from  the  engine  to  the  wings,  and  a 
two-way  radio.     It  has  a  maximum  UO-foot  wingspan 
and  weighs  320  pounds .     It  is  6  feet  long  and  it 
looks  like  a  cage  of  scaffolding  covered  in  parts 
by  canvas.     He  said  he's  far  enough  along  on  build 
ing  his  device  that  he  will  be  able  to  test  the 
way  the  wings  move  in  the  Staten  Island  Community 
College  gym  by  the  first  of  the  year.  However, 
there  will  be  no  free  flying.     The  gymnasium  test 
will  involve  tying  weights  to  the  wing  tips  and 
flapping  the  wings  .     He  said  that  his  bird  is 
rather  slow  in  maturing;  and  it's  been  a  long 
gestation  period  which  involved  9000  hours  of 
experimentation,  $U0,000  in  his  money,  and  the 
dissection  of  300  birds  of  various  species.  "I've 
been  interested  in  flight  since  1930,"  he  said. 
"Basically,  I  was  curious  as  to  why  various  things 
flew,  and  I've  been  painfully  finding  out  ever 


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since."    And  he  winds  up  with  a  real  quote  here. 
He  saidj  "Never  has  so  much  laeen  done  with  so 
little  success."    That's  the  news.    No,  wait  - 
wait  a  minute.    One  final  closing  story.  In 
Atlanta,  Georgia,  a  5-year-old  boy  crawled  up  on 
Santa's  lap  in  a  department  store  and  asked  him 
what  Santa  would  need  if  he  had  two  hoots  and 
one  sock.    Dick  Wright,  a  Georgia  State  University 
graduate  student  in  the  off  season,  said  he  thought 
quickly  and  replied,  "Another  sock,"  and  the  child 
punched  him  in  the  stomach. 

LMP  Huh!     Merry  Christinas. 

CDR  Thank  you  for  the  news  ,  Gordo . 

11  22  22  30    CDR  That's  a  very  enjoyable  evening  to  go  to  bed  with 

on  our  final  night  of  the  flight . 

CO  Before  you  turn  in,  we  got  a  little  shopping  list 

to  run  down  with  you  if  you're  -  nothing  to 
write  down,  but  if  you're  ready  to  listen. 

CDR  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  Okay.     The  Surgeons  are,  first  of  all,  request 

that  Ron  press  on  his  sensors.    They're  looking 
like  they're  getting  loose  according  to  the  data 
here.     They  also  reco  -  recommend  for  Ron  that 
if  he's  still  using  the  nose  drops  -  I  guess  he 
has  been  -  they  recommend  that  he  take  one  decon- 
gestant pill  before  going  to  sleep  and  one  after 
breakfast  in  the  morning.     It's  a  suggestion. 
It's  his  option.    The  thought  being  it  might  help 
in  clearing  your  ears  during  that  final  descent. 
You  may  leave  the  optics  power  on  for  more  heat 
in  the  cabin  if  you  wish.    We'd  like  you  to  stop 
charge  in  battery  B.  Over. 

11  23  23  5^    CDR  Okay.    He's  taking  that  off  the  line  now;  off  the 

charge . 

CG  Okay.     And  we'd  like  the  IR ,  OFF. 


11  23  2h  05  CDR 


Okay.     It's  OFF,  Gordy. 


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CC  Okay.     Let's  see,  we  owe  you  an  answer  on  what  to 

do  with  the  LEVAs .     I  guess  they  were  supposed  to 
he  on  the  helmets  in  the  PGA  bag.     Is  that  going 
to  be  a  real  pain  to  get  at,  and  put  them  there? 

CDR  No,  it's  not  going  to  be  a  pain  at  all,  Gordo; 

it's  Just  impossible. 

CC  Okay,  well  - 

CDR  There's  just  no  room  in  there  at  all  -  not  -  none 

at  all . 

CC  Okay.     I'll  -  probably  not  have  an  answer  for  you 

tonight,  but  first  thing  in  the  morning  -  some- 
place to  put  them. 

CDR  Okay,     It  won't  be  any  problem  strapping  them  some- 

where, but  we  thought  maybe  you  had  a  better  idea 
than  we  did;  if  not,  when  we  get  our  reck  bags 
tied  down  and  all  in  place,  we'll  take  a  look  at 
a  good  spot  for  the  LEVAs  and  let  you  know. 

CC  Okay.     G&C  -  I  don't  know  where  you  are  on  the 

checklist  -  the  -  just  a  reminder  to  zero  the 
optics  before  you  turn  in.     And  I'd  like  to  - 
say  for  the  whole  White  Team,  who  are  just  -  here 
in  another  hour,  will  finish  up  their  -  their  work 
with  the  Apollo  Program,  and  myself  included,  that 
this  sure  has  been  a  pleasure  working  with  not 
only  the  two  best  spacecraft  the  program  has  seen 
but  we  think  the  best  and  most  cooperative  and  - 
crew  also.     And  it's  been  a  privilege  in  my  esti- 
matio  and  a  real  pleasure,  too,  and  looking 
forward  to  seeing  you  on  Thursday. 

CDR  Well,  Gordo,  those  are  awful  kind  words,  and  we 

do  appreciate  it  very  much,  but  I  think  you  know 
how  we  feel  about  the  help  you  guys  give  us  down 
there.    And  -  well,  it  really  makes  our  job  easy 
up  here.     From  the  Cape  back  to  the  Pacific  is  - 
it's  the  guys  from  the  trench  all  the  way  up  to 
the  top  back  there,  and  that's  what  it's  really 
all  about.    We  thank  you,  those  are  good  words, 
but  just  consider  them  reciprocal  also. 


CC 


Thank  you. 


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CMP  We  appreciate  it  there.  White  Team. 

CC  Thank  you,  Ron. 

CDR  Gordo,  we'll  hang  on  the  air  here  and  we're  going 

to  finish  up  our  presleep  checklist  and  we'll 
Just  give  you  one  final  buzz  before  we  go  off 
on  the  voice  switch. 


CC  Okay;  very  good. 

CDR  By  the  way,  the  Earth  is  sure  starting  to  get  big. 

CC  Okay.     You're  about  80,000  miles  out. 

CDR  Okay,  outstanding.     I  guess,  based  upon  your 

midcourse  T>  that  that's  a  good  sign,  isn't  it? 
That  it's  getting  big? 

CC  That's  what  it's  supposed  to  do. 

11  23  27  ^5     CDR  It's  a  -  although  there's  not  much  of  it  to  see. 


it's  really  sort  of  spectacular  because  the 
crescent  is  getting  smaller  and  smaller  although 
the  Moon  is  getting  -  is  getting  larger,  and  of 
course  the  crescent  we're  looking  at  now  is  the 
Pacific.     But  even  if  there  were  landmasses  in 
there,  I  don't  think  we  could  see  much  besides 
the  reflection  off  the  clouds  -  and  a  -  well,  in 
this  case,  the  ocean.     But  -  it's  really  a  pretty 
spectacular  sight  because  out  the  other  window, 
now  that  we're  on  an  Intervertical  [?]  PTC, 
we've  got  a  full  Moon  looking  back  at  us.  And 
it's  sort  of  a  poetic  place  to  be  the  night  before 
entry . 


CC  Yes,  I'll  bet  it  is. 

CDR  Hang  in  there,  babe,  and  we'll  see  you  for  sure 

Thursday. 


CC  Okay;  it's  a  deal. 

11  23  k5  53    CMP  Houston,  how's  the  C.nIPs  biomed  now? 


CC 


Okay,  Ron,  looks  real  good. 


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CMP  Okay;  mighty  fine. 

CC  I  got  a  final  on  the  Liberty  Bowl.    Must  have  been 

exciting.    John  Young  should  be  happy.  Georgia 
Tech  squeaked  through,  31  to  30. 

CDR  Looks  like  there's  some  pretty  good  football  games 

coining  up  this  weekend,  too. 

CC  That's  right,  in  the  pros. 

11  23  hd  20    CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CDR  Gordy,  we'd  like  to  go  back  to  AUTO  on  the  GLYCOL 

EVAP  TEMP  IN,  you  concur? 

CC  That's  fine  with  the  EECOM.    Your  choice. 

11  23  h8  39    CDR  Okay.    We're  just  going  to  go  back  to  AUTO  on  the 

switch . 

CC  Okay . 

CDR  And  we  also  would  like  to  take  that  inverter  off. 

It's  getting  a  little  warm  in  here  now  and  this 
PTC  ought  to  be  pretty  comfortable  tonight. 

CC  Okay . 

11  23  1+8  56    CDR  Okay,  we'll  take  INVERTER  number  3  OFF.     And  I 

think  the  POWER'S  OFF,  also. 

CC  Okay . 

12  CO  00  15    CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  All  right.     Go  ahead,  America;  Houston. 

CDR  We  bid  you  hello.  Bob,  and  at  the  same  time, 

good  night. 

CC  What  can  I  say?     I'm  crying. 

CDR  Well,  we  thought  we'd  give  you  about  8  hours  to 

think  about  it. 


Tape  192/8 


CC  That's  about  all  I've  got  to  do. 

CDR  See  you  in  the  morning,  babe. 

12  00  00  53    CC  Roger. 

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12  07  20  02    CC  (Music:    Anchors  Aweigh  and  the  National  Anthem) 

12  07  28  53    CC  (Music:    Anchors  Aweigh  and  the  National  Anthem) 

12  07  31  31    CMP  Hey,  Houston.     This  is  America.     That's  mighty  fine. 

CC  Roger,  America.     It's  Houston.     We're  ready  to 

have  you  come  home  today. 

CMP  Hey,  mighty  fine.     We're  all  set,  too. 

CC  Okay,  might  read  you  a  page  -  - 

CMP 

CC  Go  ahead. 

CMP  Okay,  we've  "been  waiting  a  long  time  for  Anchors 

Aweigh.     And  we've  missed  it.  (Laughter) 

CC  I  imagine  -  - 

CMP  You  going  to  play  it  again? 

CC  -  -  imagine  you'll  hear  it  a  couple  of  more  times 

today ,  too . 

CMP  Oh,  okay.    But  if  we  could  hear  it  again,  that'd 


"be  great. 


CC  It'll  take  them  awhile  to  cue  it  up,  and  may"be 

we'll  work  on  that.     Let  me  give  you  guys  a  few 
items  here  while  you're  thinking.     Number  1,  the 
old  weather  report:     2000  scattered  -  high  scat- 
tered -  10  miles  visibility,  3-foot  seas,  winds  are 
out  of  the  east  at  10  knots.     Just  about  exactly 
what  you  had  yesterday,  and  probably  what  we've 
been  telling  you  for  2  or  3  days .     Looks  like 
we're  going  to  have  a  midcourse  7  this  morning, 
about  2  feet  per  second.     Pretty  much  just  to  really 
center  us  in  the  corridor.    We're  already  within 
the  corridor  now,  with  no  problems.    We're  going 
to  exit  PTC  at  a  different  roll  angle.     We'll  read 


Tape  19T/2 


that  up  to  you  later  when  you  get  the  Flight  Plan 
out;  but  just  so  you  don't  go  ahead  and  exit  early, 
we  will  he  sending  you  something  up  on  that  exit 
PTC  to  new  roll  angle.    And  as  far  as  the  LEVAs  are 
concerned,  you  guys  were  looking  for  a  place  to 
stow  those  last  night,  and  what  we're  suggesting 
is  putting  them  in  the  sleep  restraint  on  top  of 
A-8  where  you've  got  one  suit  stowed,  apparently. 
And  we're  suggesting  you  put  one  of  those  on  the 
helmet  on  that  PGA.    And  the  other  one,  as  it  were, 
loose  and  in  the  hag.  Over. 

12  07  33  i+7    CMP  Houston,  America.     We've  got  the  PGAs  in  the  hag. 

(Laughter)    Hope  that's  right, 

CC  You  got  all  three  of  them  in  the  L-shaped  bags ,  or 

have  you  got  -  The  understanding  down  here,  appar- 
ently, in  talking  last  night  was  that  one  was  in 
a  sleep  restraint  on  top  of  A-8  -  in  the  sleep 
restraint  bag. 

CMP  Well,  we've  got  CMP  and  LMP  suits  in  the  bottom  - 

I  mean,  the  commander  and  LMP  suits  at  the  bottom 
part  of  it.  CMP  suit's  in  the  top  of  it  -  of  the 
L-shaped  bag. 

CC  Okay,  we'll  work  on  that.     And  we've  got  something 

else  for  you  here  -  just  a  minute. 

CC  (Music:    Anchors  Aweigh) 

CDR  Thank  you,  Robert.     Most  appreciative. 

CC  Okay,  we  aim  to  please.     That's  aJ.so,  I  might  tell 

you  guys,  the  third  time  we've  played  that  this 
morning,  although  you's  only  heard  it  twice.  We 
played  it  once  before  we  sent  the  crew  alert. 

12  07  37  11    CMP  CMP  has  no  comment. 

CC  Okay,  America,  we'd  like  to  request  MEDIUM  on  the 

HIGH  GAIN  antenna,  please. 


CMP 


Okay,  you  have  REACQ  and  MEDIUM. 


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CC  Okay.     And  I  guess  now  on  the  LSVAs ,  what  we're 

suggesting  is  you  put  them  -  put  the  two  of  them 
in  by  themselves  in  a  sleep  restraint  and  tie  it 
down  on  top  of  A-8,  And  I've  got  a  lot  of  fancy 
words  about  how  to  tie  it  down  on  top  of  A-8,  if 
you  guys  can't  figure  out  how  to  do  it.  I  can 
read  it  off  to  you,  or  we  can  leave  it  to  your 
intuitive  good  sense. 

CMP  Well,  so  far,  we've  kept  pretty  much  with  most 

of  your  recommendations  around  here.  I  think  we 
could  probably  hack  that  one,  too. 


12  07  ho  27    CC  Roger. 


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12  18  06  5I+    CDR  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CDR  We're  looking  at  your  big  smiling  crescent.  How 

far  out  are  we? 

CC  Stand  by.     You're  just  about  to  cross  the 

UO, 000-mile  line  here  in  the  MOCR. 

12  08  07  08    CDR  U0,000  miles.  Okay. 

12  08  3T  5^    CMP  Houston,  America. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

CMP  Okay.     Good  morning,  Robert.     I've  got  the  INJECTOR 

VALVE  temps  for  you. 

CC  Roger.     We're  ready  to  copy.     Five  Charlie,  3.95; 

5  Delta,  h.k;  6  Alfa,  14.15;  6  Bravo,  U.05; 

6  Charlie,  1+.3;  6  Delta,  k.2. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     Those  sounded  good. 

12  08  39  10     CMP  Okay. 

12  08  h6  57    CMP  Got  that  now. 

12  08  hQ  08    CMP  Houston,  America,  with  the  food  and  medical  report. 

CC  Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.     We've  got  an  antenna 

switch  coming  up.     As  soon  as  we  get  you  back  on 
comm,  we'll  go  ahead  with  it. 

CMP  Okay. 

12  08  U8  3J    CC  Okay,  Ron.     The  switch  has  been  made.  You're 

ready  -  we're  ready  for  the  copy. 

CMP  Map . 

CC  Oh. 


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CMP  Okay,  Houston.    Do  you  want  to  copy?    Okay,  Houston. 

On  the  commander's  menu,  we  use  negative  reporting. 
Okay,  did  not  eat  potato  soup,  chicken  stew,  and 
peach  ambrosia.     I'm  sorry,  I  started  with  meal 
C  instead  of  A.    And  then  to  add  on  meal  Charlie, 
three-fourths  jelly  candy.     Okay,  we'll  start  with 
A  again,  on  the  commander.    Did  not  eat  peaches 
and  cocoa.    Meal  Bravo,  did  not  eat  chicken  and 
rice  soup  and  fruitcake.    Add  one-fourth  jelly 
candy.     Okay,  for  breakfast  on  day  ik.     Did  not 
eat  mixed  fruit .    Did  not  eat  cinnamon  toast  and 
bread.    Did  not  eat  coffee.     And  add  one  can  of 
peaches.     Okay,  commander's  medical  log: 
PRD,  17065;  5  hours,  fair;  none;  and  five  cans  of 
water.     Okay,  for  the  LMP,  start  with  meal  A, 
day  13.    Did  not  eat  bacon  squares,  apricots, 
cocoa.    Meal  Bravo,  did  not  eat  chicken  and  rice 
soup.    And  add  -  add  on  graham  cracker  cubes  and 
a  plain  coffee.    Meal  13,  did  not  eat  chicken 
stew,  peach  ambrosia,  grapefruit  drink,  and  add 
on  a  plain  coffee  and  sugar  cookies.    Day  - 
day  ih,  meal  A,  did  not  eat  a  half  a  sausage  and 
a  mixed  fruit  and  scratch  the  potassium  in  the 
coffee  -  A  plain  coffee.     Okay,  LMPs  PRD,  21+227; 
6  hours  of  good;  none;  and  three  cans  of  water. 
Okay,  CMP,  meal  A,  Day  13:     did  not  eat  four  bacon 
squares,  apricots,  and  add  on  a  car  -  a  carmel 
candy.     Meal  Bravo,  did  not  eat  one-fourth  of  the 
fruitcake.     Add  on  two  tea,  three-fourths  jelly 
candy  and  graham  cracker  cubes.     Meal  Charlie, 
did  not  eat  chicken  stew.    Add  on  one-fourth  jelly 
candy.     For  breakfast,  did  not  eat  mixed  fruit. 
Scratch  the  with  K  in  the  coffee.    Drank  the 
coffee,  but  it  was  black.    Add  on  peaches.  Okay, 
CMPs  medical:     PRD,  15062;  7  hours  of  good.  The 
rest  of  the  guys  said  it  was  noisy,  but  I  thought 
it  was  good.     Let's  see  -  medication:     one  decon- 
gestant, one  Seconal;  and  three  cans  of  water. 
And  that  completes  the  medical/food  readback. 

CC  Roger,  Ron.     Just  a  word  on  your  consumable  status 

this  morning.     You're  in  good  shape  on  RCS,  oxygen, 
and  hydrogen.     You're  in  real  good  shape. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston,  America.     When  you  get  that  roll 

angle,  let  us  know,  will  you? 


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CC  Yes,  the  roll  angle  is  306,  exit  G&N  PTC  at  roll 

angle  306.  And  we'll  call  you  when  we  get  there  - 
when  you  get  there. 

CMP  Okay,  we're  watching  it.  Bob,  306. 

CC  And,  America,  Houston.    The  high  gain  angles  to 

go  with  that  roll  angle  of  306.     HIGH  GAIN  angles 
are  PITCH,  3h;  YAW,  26?.  Over. 

CMP  Roger.     3h  and  26T- 

12  08  57  29    CC  And,  America,  Houston.     I've  got  a  couple  of  other 

items  on  this  Flight  Plan  updates,  if  you're 
ready  to  copy  now. 

CDR  Go  ahead.  Bob. 

CC  Okay,  at  301:50,  301:50,  add  "UV  COVER,  CLOSED." 

CDR  Okay,  got  it. 

CC  Okay,  and  then  on  the  other  page  there.  At 

302:06,  delete  the  line,  "UV  COVER,  CLOSE." 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  The  next  change  here  is  to  the  Entry  Checklist 

and  to  the  entry  cue  card. 

CDR  Okay,  go  ahead. 

CC  On  the  Entry  Checklist,  page  1-3  between  steps  23 

and  2U,  it's  actually  part  of  step  23.  S-BAKD 
OMNI  antenna  Charlie,  change  that  to  Delta  -  on 
the  S-BAND  OMNI  antenna,  Delta. 

CDR  Okay,  we've  got  Delta  at  horizon  check  attitude. 

CC  Roger.     And  if  you'll  go  over  to  2-U,  Entry 

Checklist,  where  it  says,  "Yaw  back  to  zero 
degrees"  after  SEP,  we  would  like  you  to  insert, 
"Select  OMNI  Charlie"  -  OMNI  Charlie,  at  that 
time.    And  that  will  be  also  required  on  your 
entry  cue  card  at  I45  minutes  where  it  says  ,  "Yaw 
to  zero,"  you'll  have  to  be  OMNI  Charlie,  select 
OMNI  Charlie. 


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CDR  Okay,  we've  got  it  covered  everywhere. 

CC  Okay,  and  the  reason  for  that  is  for  tetter 

coverage  going  through  Hawaii  and  that  and  then 
OMNI  Charlie  is  coming  back  up  on  the  ARIA. 

12  09  00  01    CDR  Okay,  Bob. 

CC  And,  America,  Houston.    Just  one  word  to  the  CMP, 

if  you  have  a  chance.    One  of  your  EKG  sensors 
seems  to  be  loose,  if  you  can  tighten  it  up  a 
little  bit. 

12  09  00  28    CMP  Okay,  I'll  start  pressing  on  it. 

12  09  06  36    CC  America,  Houston.     You're  getting  pretty  close  to 

your  306  roll. 

CDR  I'm  watching  here.  Bob.     NOUH  20. 

CC  Okay.     Real  fine. 

CC  We'd  like  AUTO  on  the  HIGH  GAIN. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We'd  like  ACCEPT;  we've  got 

your  entry  REFSMMAT. 

CDR  Okay.     You  have  ACCEPT. 

12  09  07  52    IMP  Okay,  Houston.     IR  is  coming  ON.     Houston,  do  you 

copy?     The  IR ' s  ON  and  the  COVER'S  coming  OPEN. 

CC  Affirmative. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.     Spacecraft  is  configured  in  SCS  as 

per  the  Flight  Plan  up  through  the  P52. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  America,  Houston.     The  computer  is  yours. 

12  09  09  18    CMP  Roger.     We're  with  the  BLOCK. 


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APOLLO  IT  AIR-TO-GROUKD  VOICE  TRANSCRIPTION 

12  09  15  11    CMP  And,  Hoaiston;  America.    Have  you  copied  the  DSKI? 

12  09  15  15    CC  Roger,  Ron.    We've  got  you  NOUN  05- 

CMP  Okay. 
12  09  15  33    CC  And  we've  got  your  NOUN  93s. 

12  09  15  h2    CMP  Okay,  we'll  torque  at  55:^5- 

12  09  17  l8    CC  Ron,  while  you're  doing  your  maneuvering,  no  need 

to  answer,  hut  just  a  reminder.    Due  to  the  -  stop- 
ping your  roll  angle  differently,  you're  ujider  the 
EI  REFSMMAT  attitude,  your  roll  will  be  about  0U6, 
and  you'll  see  a  max  yaw  of  about  61+  degrees  during 
this  gyro  torquing. 

CMP  (Laughter)    Okay,  thanks  for  calling. 

CMP  It  sounded  like  yesterday  you  might  have  had  a  cold, 

and  it  sounds  like  it  might  be  a  little  worse  today. 

CC  No,  no.     Feeling  great. 

CMP  Okay,  mighty  fine. 

CC  That's  my  "get  serious  and  get  you  home"  voice,  see? 
CMP  (Laughter)    Okay,  perfect. 

12  09  28  38    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    This  is  the  coarse  align  torciuing 

angles,  and  we'll  torque  at  08:^5. 


CC 


Stand  -  Okay,  go  ahead.    That's  fine. 
CMP  You  want  me  to  read  them  down  to  you? 

CC  No,  that's  all  right.    We  didn't  need  them. 

CMP  Okay,  I  didn't  think  so. 

CC  And  just  for  your  information,  I  might  pass  along 

the  drift  checks  on  the  platform  have  been  extremely 
good,  and  the  platform  is  in  real  good  condition. 
I'm  sure  you're  -  - 


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CMP  Hey,  mighty  fine.    What  kind  of  values  -  average 

values  have  you  been  coming  up  with?    I  remember 
some  in  lunar  orbit,  but  I  don't  know  if  -  they 
haven't  come  back  since  then. 

CC  You're  down  like  0.005  degrees  per  hour,  down  in 

the  thousandths  of  degrees  per  hour. 

CMP  (Laughter)     That's  -  that's  not  bad  at  all,  is  it? 

CC  No,  that's  -  you  could  take  it  right  back  to  the 

Moon  if  you  wanted  to,  by  golly. 

CMP  Yes,  sure  could. 

12  09  30  57    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     GDC  is  aligned,  and  we  are  in  CMC. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  America,  Houston.     If  you'll  give  us  ACCEPT,  we'll 

give  you  an  MCC-7  target  load,  a  target  vector,  and 
an  entry  vector. 

12  09  31  31    CDR  Okay,  you  have  ACCEPT. 

CC  And,  America,  we've  got  the  MCC-7  and  the  entry 

pads  for  you  whenever  you're  ready  to  copy. 

CDR  Okay.    Stand  by  1.    And  you  might  be  interested  to 

know,  we  have  had  no  problems  whatsoever  locking 
the  YY  strut  on  this  flight. 

CC  Good  show.    We  copy  that. 

LMF  Okay,  Bob.     Ready  for  midcourse  7. 

12  09  33  l6    CC  Roger.     Midcourse  7,  RCS/G&N;  26686;  NOUN  hQs  are 

not  applicable;  301:18:00.31+;  plus  0002.1,  plus  all 
zeros,  minus  0000.1;  000,  130,  000;        is  not  appli- 
cable, plus  0022.9;  0002.1,  0:09,  0002.1;  sextant 
star  is  31,  329-9,  3h.8.     Rest  of  the  pad  is  not 
applicable.     Set  stars,  Sirius  and  Rigel;  273,  256, 
3^7.     One  note,  we  would  like  two- jet  plus-X  RCS 
using  (luads  Bravo  and  Delta.     I'll  say  again,  two- 
jet  plus-X  RCS  quads  Bravo  and  Delta.     Another  note, 
HIGH  GAIN  angles:     PITCH,  minus  83;  YAW,  2kk.  Over. 


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cc 


And,  America,  the  computer's  yours. 


12  09  35  37    IMP  Okay,  going  BLOCK.     Okay,  Bob.     "^re ' s  your  read- 

^  ^  tadk.     It's  a  midcourse  T,  RCS/G&N;  26686;  KOUM  U8 

is  NA;  301:18:00. 3it;  plus  0002.1,  plus  all  zeros, 
minus  0000.1;  000,  130,  000;        is  M,  plus  0022.9; 

0002.1,  0:09,  0002.1;  31,  329-9,  3^.8.    Rest  of  pad 
is  NA.    Sirius  and  Rigel;  2T3,  256,  3^7-    Ullage  is 
two  jets  plus-X  RCS  quads  B  and  D.    That's  Bravo 
and  Delta.    HIGH  GAIH:     PITCH,  minus  83;  and  YAW  is 
2hh.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Good  -  good  readback  except  it's  not 

ullage.     It's  just  your  two- jet  bum. 

LMP  Well,  okay.    Two- jet  burn,  then. 

CC  And,  Jack,  we  have  the  entry  pad.     Standing  by  for 

your  call. 

IMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  ready  to  copy. 

12  09  37  20    CC  Okay,  it's  into  the  MIDPAC  area;  000,  153,  000; 

30U-01:37,  268;  NOUH  6ls  minus  17-88,  minus  166.13; 
06. U;  36090,  6.1+9;  IOUU.9,  36172;  30U:l8:37;  00:29; 
NOUK  69  is  not  applicable;        U.OO,  02:09;  00:17, 

03:37,  07:39;  sextant  star  is  13,  117-3,  15-5; 
boresight  star  is  not  applicable;  lift  vector  is  up. 
I've  got  six  comments.    You  can  take  those  now,  or 
we  can  get  the  readback  and  then  go  through  the 
comments . 

LMP  Go  ahead  on  the  comments,  and  take  them  a  little 

slower  than  usual.  Bob. 

12  09  39  10    CC  Okay.     Comment  number  1:     Use  nonexit  EMS  pattern. 

Comment  number  2:     RET  90K,  06:01.     RET  mains, 
08:26.     RET  landing,  13:17-     Constant  g  is  roll 
right.     And  the  last  conment :     GET  moonset, 
30U:l6:lU.  Over. 

12  09  ii0  35    LMP  Okay,  Roberto.    That's  mid-PAC;  000,  153,  000; 

30U:01:37,  268;  minus  17-88,  minus  166.13;  06.4; 
36090.  6.I19;  IOUU.9,  36172;  30U:l8:37;  00:29, 
NOUN  69  is  NA;  U.OO,  02:09;  00:17,  03:37,  07:39; 
13,  117.3,  15.5;  boresight  star  is  NA;  lift  vector 
is'up.     Conmients,  1:    use  nonexit  EMS  pattern; 
2:     RET  9OK  is  06:01;  RET  main,  08:26;  RET  landing. 


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13:17;  comment  3:  constant  g,  roll  right;  1+  is  GETT 
moons et,  30U:l6:lU.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.     Good  readback.     That  should  be  the 

last  of  the  pads. 

LMP  Okay,  sir.     Give  my  hand  a  rest. 

12  09  h9  00    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     Changing  the  DAP  for  PD  [?]  on  the 

two- jet  plus-X. 

CC  Okay,  we're  watching. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  America. 

CC  Go  ahead. 

12  09  51  ^1    CDR  Okay,  Bob.     Looks  like  CDR  has  -  there's  no  biomed 

electrolyte  sponges  in  the  spacecraft,  either  in 
the  LM  kit  we  brought  back  or  in  the  command  module 
kit.     So  it  looks  like  I'll  be  going  in  without 
biomed. 

CC  Roger,  Gene. 

CC  Hope  you  can  make  it,  Geno,  without  that. 

CDR  (Laughter) 

CDR  Okay. 

CMP  Let  me  know  when  you  want  the  numb  ers  "there ,  Gene . 

12  09  55  30    CMP  ...  86.8,  going  normal.     (Laughter)     There's  the 

commander's  ALABM.     That's  good. 

12  09  55  51    CI4P  Okay,  plus  329-90.     Plus  3^.800.     And  we  -  star  31. 

12  09  56  IT    CMP  And,  Houston,  we've  got  a  minus  29-2  on  the  DELTA-V 

test  function  of  the  EMS. 


C  Roger.     V/e  copy  that,  Ron. 

12  09  56  37     CMP  And  star  -  star  sextant  check  is  good  there, 

Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

12  09  56  51     CMP  Okay.     You  guys  can  go  ahead  and  dump  now. 


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CMP  (Laughter)    Must  "be  accelerating  ...  xay  EMS  pump. 

CMP  Well,  I'll  be  darned. 

12  09  59  01  ■  CMP  And,  Houston,  you  go  to  ENTRY  and  NORMAL  on  the 

null  bias  check,     EMS  is  counting  like  a  son  of  a 
gun.     (Laughter)    Almost  as  fast  as  the  DELTA-V 
test  but  not  quite. 

CC  Roger.     You're  really  smoking  along,  aren't  you? 

CMP  (Laughter)    Well,  I  wouldn't  think  it  vould  sense 

that ,  but  -  - 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Anyhow,  we'll  use  bum  time  and  -  NOUN  85  for  the  - 

the  burn. 

CC  Roger. 

CC  Ron,  you're  happy  with  your  EMS  and  null  bias  check, 

aren't  you? 

12  10  00  1+1    CMP  Negative.    Not  on  the  null  bias  check,  no,  I'll 

give  you  a  count  in  a  minute.    I'm  going  to  redo 
the  EyB  DELTA-V  test,  and  then  go  back  and  try 
another  null  bias  check.     But  it  looked  like  it  was 
counting  from  about  100  to  -  to  75  in  30  seconds, 
but  let  me  check  that  out. 

12  10  01  21    CMP  Okay.     Did  the  DELTA-V  test,  and  that  time  we  got 

a  minus  20.3. 

12  10  02  13    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     They  started  at  minus  100  on  the 

null  bias  check;  30  seconds  at  118.8. 

12  10  02  3k    CMP  One  minute,  137 • 8- 

CC  Ron,  would  you  verify  those  are  negative  numbers? 

CMP  That's  affirmative.     They're  negative. 

12  10  03  35    CMP  Okay,  a  minute  and  hO  seconds,  minus  162.T  or  so. 

12  10  oh  31    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    We've  got  a  little  bit  of  time  here. 

And  looks  like  I've  still  got  three  EMS  tests  left. 
I'd  like  to  go  ahead  and  do  another  EMS  test  on 
that,  and  we'll  see  if  that  integrator  is  all  foioled 
up  completely  -  on  the  range  integrator. 


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CC  Okay,  Ron.    ¥e  agree. 

CMP  Okay. 
12  10  05  hg    CMP  Okay,  TEST  1  looks  all  right. 

12  10  06  08    CMP  And  TEST  2  is  okay;  .05  G  light  is  ON.     Okay,  going 

to  TEST  3;  10  seconds  - 

12  10  06  28    CMP  MARK  it.    Upper  light  came  on. 

CMP  Okay,  a  58.0  in  the  range  counter  - 

12  10  07  03    CMP  MARK  it.    Okay,  it's  slowing  down  going  across  - 

12  10  07  13    CMP  MARK  it.    Ah-ha.    Okay.    G  line  comes  across  at 

9  z  -  g's  (laughter),  and  range  indicator  indicates 
0.0.  Outstanding. 

12  10  08  l8    CMP  And  test  5  works  all  right. 

12  10  12  Us    CMP  Okay. 

12  10  13  13    CMP  Well,  looks  like  a  PUl  here.    What 've  you  got  now? 

CDR  ...  9,  130,  and  359-     Oh,  about  25  minutes  from  the 

"burn,  25. 

CMP  Think  you  can  get  those  things  done  by  that  time? 

CMP  Okay,  just  so  I  won't  forget  it,  let's  go  ahead 

and  trim  it. 

12  10  13  52    CMP  Okay,  we  are  trimmed.     About  1  minute.     ...  2k  min- 

utes to  the  bum. 

CMP  Both  . . . 

12  10  16  22    CMP  Houston,  America.     Does  it  look  like  we're  going 

to  hack  it  on  the  waste  water  tank  there  -  ...  out 
there? 

CC  Ron,  yes.     We're  not  going  to  dump  the  waste  water 

tank  at  this  time,  and  we  won't  dump  it  after 
midcourse  7  of  course. 

CMP  (Laughter)     Okay.     Just  wanted  to  make  sure. 

12  10  17  Ih    CMP  Yes.    BAT  C,  up  around  36.5.     Pyros ,  36.9,  36.9. 


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12  10  IT  33    CMP  ...    Okay.     Fuel  cells  are  looking  good,  too. 

12  10  IT  hh    CMP  A/C  is  looking  good. 

12  10  19  25  ■  CMP  About  l8  ndnutes  yet, 

CC  America,  Houston. 

CMP  Roger.     Go  aiiead. 

1?  m  1Q  3T    CC  Oh,  Ron,  we've  been  kicking  around  this  EMS  test 

^  ^°  and  the  null  bias  test  and  that,  and  we  concur  on 

this  bum  using  HOUU  85s  and  your  burn  time  as  your 
cues  and  not  using  EMS.    We  would  like,  however, 
for  you  to  bias  the  EMS.     Set  in  a  plus  118. «  at  - 
and  it  will  go  to  NORMAL  at  T.^  minus  30  seconds 
and  we'd  just  be  interested  in  what  the  EMS  does 
under  a  very  small  g  field  like  this. 

IP  in  ?0  11    CMP  Okay.    We'll  set  in  at  plus  II8.8  and  turn  it  to 

12  10  20  11    CMP  ^  ^^^^        seconds.     And  I'll  try  to 

ig 

look  at  it  at  the  end  of  burn  time  or  go  to  STAKDBY 
at  that  point  in  time  so  we  can  make  a  good  hack 
on  it. 

CC  Roger.     That'd  be  great,  Ron,  and  we  see  no  problem 

for  entry  with  EMS. 

CMP  Roger.    Mighty  fine. 

CMP  We've  really  got  the  Christmas  spirit  out  the  window 

here.     Looks  like  it's  really  snowing. 

(Laughter)  Roger.  Glad  it's  not  snowing  on  us  with 
that  stuff. 


CC 


CMP  (Laughter)     Oh,  it's  frozen. 

12  10  22  59    CMP  Okay,  Gene.     L^t  me  read  through  the  PUl  here_ just 

12  10        59    OMf  ^^^^  everything.     Okay,  we're  in  SIM 

basic  configuration,  I  guess.     Yes,  the  IR  s  OH, 
and  it  won't  hurt  anything.    UV's  ON,  but  at  this 
point  in  time,  it  won't  make  any  difference,  I 
guess.     CMC  is  ON,  ISS  is  ON,  SCS  is  operating.  We 
tested  the  caution  and  warning,  the  DELTA-V  test 
works,  null  bias   ...     And  DELTA-V^.  we'll  set  that 
up. 


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12  10  23  58    CMP  Okay.     We  got  118.8  and  DELTA-V  in  STANDBY.  BMAGs 

are  caged  and  RATE  2. 

12  10  2h  13     Ctff  OKay.     AUTO  RCS  SELECTS.     We'll  put  those  on  for 

trim.     We're  just  going  to  trim  the  X-axis  only? 
Okay,  I'll  leave  the  A/C  OFF.     Okay.     I  got  the 
DAP.     VERB  01+  NOUN  h6  ENTER.     CSM.     Don't  use  A/C. 

Use  B/D  for  plus-X.  ....  DEAD  BAND,  one-half  degree 
per  second.     Use  B/D  for  ROLL.  Okay. 

12  10  2k  55    CMP  Okay,  ROT  CONTROLLER  AGs  are  OK,  DIRECTS  are  ON. 

...  13  minutes.     Okay,  I  got  the  DET  set.  Looks 
like  it  agrees.     And  we're  in  CMC  and  AUTO.  We're 
in  the  burn  attitude.     Done  the  boreslght  and  sex- 
tant star  check.    We're  in  pl+1,  have  maneuvered  to 
the  right  attitude. 

12  10  25  27    CMP  And  we're  still  in  RATE  2,     CMC,  AUTO.     Okay,  let 

me  realign  the  old  GDC. 

12  10  27  02    CMP  Okay,  the  old  GDC  is  aligned.     Let's  see.  MANUAL 

ATTs  are  in  RATE  COMMAIJD. 

12  10  27  10     CMP  The  DEAD  BAND  RATE  to  LOW.     LIMIT  CYCLE  is  OFF. 

ATT  1,  RATE  2. 

12  10  27  25    CMP  Okay,  stand  "by  for  5  minutes.    And  we're  10  minutes 

from  the  bum.  Gene. 

12  10  27  h3    CMP  And,  Jack,  burn  time  is  9  seconds  -  9  seconds.  And 

we'll  trim  X  only  to  0.2  foot  per  second. 


CMP 


cr4P 


CO 


Houston,  America.  Does  this  kind  of  change  our 
entry  angle,  what,  about  0.2  -  0.2  degree? 


12  10  28'  36    CC  0.2  of  a  degree,  Ron. 

Cf4P  Oh,  okay. 


Which  way?    Does  it  steepen  it  or  shallow  it  up? 


CC  It'll  make  you  a  little  more  shallow.     Very  little 

shallow  -  - 

CMP  Oh,  okay.  Okay. 


Ron,  it's  going  to  run  you  from  6.7  entry  angle  tc 
a  6.i*9. 


CMP 


CMP 


CMP 


CC 

CMP 

CMP 

CDR 


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Oh,  okay.    Yes,  that's  what  I  thought,  okay. 


12  10  29  50    CDR  Eight  inimites  to  go. 

■  CMP  Next  time  we  do  this,  we'll  have  to  allow  a  little 

more  time  for  the  -  the  BUSS/duinping,  I  think, 
prior  to  the  hums. 

12  10  31  10    CC  America,  Houston.    You're  GO  for  MCC-T- 

CMP  Roger.    We're  GO  for  mldcourse  nuiriber  T« 

CDR  Is  one  of  those  going  the  other  way? 

CMP  I  guess  they  go  in  all  directions.     It  just  looks 

like  they're  -  they're  looping  hy  window  1  here. 

CC  Go  ahead. 


That's  only  2.2  foot  per  second. 


12  10  35  OU    CMP  TRAMS  CONTROL  POWER  is  ON.     Okay.    We're  ON  and 

armed. 


Okay,  we  have  trim.    There  ...  down  there. 


12  10  36  00    CDR  Okay,  Houston;  America.    We're  coming  up  on  2  min- 

utes, and  we're  ready  for  MCC-7. 


Roger,  America.    You're  looking  good. 

Yes,  hum  time  is  9-6.     Clock's  right  on. 

Yes,  that's  right.  It'll  go  out  automatically 
within  30  seconds.  Okay. 


(Laughter)  I  wonder  what  we've  got  now.  ... 
12  10  37  09    CMP  ...  30  seconds,  we'll  go  EMS  to  NORMAL. 

12  10  3T  2li    CMP  DEAD  BAND,  TRANS  CONTROL,  AC  DIRECTS,  CMC.  AUTO. 

12  10  37  28    CMP  Okay.     There  we  go,  30  seconds.     EMS  to  NORMAL. 

CMP  Okay. 

CMP  ...     Ten  seconds  to  go.  Jack.     2,  1  - 


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12  10  38  02    CMP  MARK  it. 

CDR  We're  burning,  Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay,  got  her?    And  I  stopped  it  right  at  9  seconds. 

There's  your  KOUN  85^ 

CC  We ' re  looking  at  them. 

12  10  38  27    CMP  Okay,  EMS  is  100.1.     Okay,  TRMS  COMTROL  POWER  is 

OFF.    DIRECTS  are  OFF.    Hand  controllers  are  safed. 

CDR  Houston,  looks  like  the  bum  was  right  on  the  money. 

You  saw  the  residuals,  and  the  bum  was  a  9-second 
bum,  on  time. 

CC  Roger,  America.    It  looked  good. 

12  10  39  02    CDR  And  the  VERB  66  is  in. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Ah-ha,  I  get  to  get  out  of  my  g  suit. 

CMP  You  know,  while  I  think  about  it,  Houston,  I've 

noticed  it  throughout  the  -  the  flight  here.  In 
the  simulator,  CMC  control  will  allow  your  rates  - 
you  know  -  to  bounce  back  and  forth  maybe  up  to, 
oh,  sometimes  0,1,  more  than  likely  0.05  degree 
per  second  as  it  trims  within  the  dead  band.  In 
four-jet  translations,  as  well  as  in  two-jet  trans- 
lations, your  rates  get  up  to  about  almost  O.h  degree 
per  second  as  it's  damping  within  its  own  dead  band 
there. 

CC  Roger,  Ron. 

12  10  1+0  37    CC  America,  Houston.    Just  to  make  doubly  certain  that 

we  don't  get  any  venting  from  the  waste  tank,  we 
would  like  on  panel  352  the  WASTE  WATER  RELIEF 
valve  to  OFF,  please. 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  get  that.     BATTERY  net  presumably  will 

stay  OPEH,  though,  is  that  correct? 


CC 


Stand  by  on  that,  Ron.     That's  affirmative,  Ron. 


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CMP 


Okay,  we'll  leave  the  BATTERIES  in  OPEN. 


12  10  Ul  U5    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    The  dump  PRESSURE  RELIEF  valve  is 

in  OFF. 

CC  Roger . 

12  10  112  50    CC  And,  America;  Houston.    We '  d  like  WIDE  on  the  HIGH 

GAIN. 

12  10  U2  58    CMP  (Laughter)     Okay,  the  old  HIGH  GAIN  is  on  WIDE  and 

AUTO. 

12  10  U3  Ok    CC  Roger. 

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12  11  00  58    CC  America,  Houston. 

LMP  Go  ahead. 

CC  Jack,  we're  just  more  or  less  trying  to  fill  up 

our  data  book  dovn  here  and  if  you  haven't  already 
done  one,  we'd  -  like  any  free  time,  if  Ron  would 
run  another  null  bias  check  just  to  see  if  the 
drift  changed  when  we  did  that  little  bitty  burn. 

12  11  01  19    LMP  Okay.     I'll  mention  that  to  him. 

12  11  02  U5    LMP  Houston,  IT. 

CC  Go  ahead,  America. 

12  11  03  00    LMP  Yes,  Bob;  this  is  Jack.     You  have  any  problem 

reading  me  with  this  comm  configuration  I  got  on 
now? 

CC  No,  we're  reading  you  loud  and  clear.     If  I  was  a 

little  late  on  that,  it's  because  I've  got  some 
problems  down  here  on  my  console,  that's  all.  The 
whole  room  yelled  at  me  that  you'd  called. 

12  11  03  IT    LMP  No,  that's  no  problem.     I  just  hadn't  made  a  check 

with  you  and  I  wanted  to  make  sure  I  was  readable. 

12  11  07  07    CMP  Okay,  Houston.     This  is  America  command  module 

pilot  on  the  LMP's  comm  carrier.     How  do  you  read? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  good.     I  understand  you  want  a  null  bias 

check  again? 

CC  Yes,  we're  just  wondering  if  maybe  the  -  maybe 

it  was  an  air  bubble  or  something  in  there  -  in 
the  -  small  g-field  of  that  midcourse  7  burn  might 
have  changed  something.     Just  like  to  take  a  look 
at  it . 

CMP  Okay.    We'll  take  a  look  at  her. 


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12  11  08  3T  CMP 


Okay,  in  30  seconds,  9'+.0;  starting  at  plus  100 
that  time,  for  some  reason. 


12  11  09  OT    CMP  One  minute,  87.8. 

12  11  09  56    CMP  Okay.     It  vas  79-0  at  a  minute  and  Uo  seconds. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.    We  got  that. 

CMP  Do  you  vant  to  try  the  minus  100  part  of  it? 

Really  think  it's  worth  it? 

CC  Well,  Ron,  we'd  like  it  if  you  could  dat  -  data 

gathering  point ,  that ' s  all  -  - 


CMP  Okay.     Let's  do   

CC  You  know  what ' s  due  on  entry . 

CMP  The  other  guys  are  crawling  around  down  under  the 

couches.     They're  trying  to  get  that  stuff  locked 
in  there  anyhow.     I  think  I  must  have  shrank,  my 
shoes  went  on  easier  now  than  they  did  on  the 
fitting.-    I  must  have  shrunk,  I  guess,  is  the 
correct  terminology.     Shrank?  Shrink? 


CC  Whatever  you  like. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

12  11  12  06    CMP  Okay,  minus  105-8  at  30  seconds. 

12  11  12  37    CMP  Minus  115-7  -  I  mean  111  -  111.7  at  1  minute. 

12  11  13  16    CMP  And  it's  minus  119-1  or  2  -  about  2  -  about  119.2 

about  a  minute  and  ^0. 


CC  Okay,  Ron.    That's  very  consistent  data  both  ways 

on  that  -  after  the  burn.  It  doesn't  tie  up  with 
the  data  prior  to  the  burn  too  well. 


CMP  Uh  huh. 

12  11  Ik  13    CMP  Houston,  UV  COVER  is  CLOSED  and  talk  back's  gray. 


CC 


Roger . 


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12  11  19  29    CC  Ron,  we're  going  to  break  lock  here  a  minute. 

ye've  got  a  site  handover. 

12  11  19  33    CMP  Okay.     I  understand. 

12  11  26  05    CDR  Hello,  Houston.    How  do  you  read  CDR? 

CC  Read  you  loud  and  clear,  Ron  -  Gene. 

12  11  26  12    CDR  Okay,  Boh.     I'm  hack  up  now  and  I'll  stay  with  you. 

1?  11  28  10    CMP  Okay,  and  IR  can  come  OFF.    And  the  UV,  OFF;  IR 

cover,  CLOSED.     S-BAND  AUX  TV,  OFF.     OFF,  yes. 
And  DATA  SYSTEM,  OFF.     Through  with  the  old  Flight 
Plan.    Let's  check  and  see  if  we've  got  those 
other  two  items  first.     I  think  we  do.    Yes,  that 


CC 


CC 


CC 


was  one. 


Okay,  Ron,  we'd  like  to  make  sure  that  the  LOGIC 
POWER  on  l8l  is  OFF,  center. 

Okay,  stand  by  1.  Yes.  Yes,  they're  in  DEPLOYMENT 
RETRACT.     Let's  put  them  to  OFF. 

12  11  29  1+1    CMP  Okay,  DEPLOY  MAM  A,  MAIN  B  are  both  OFF,  center. 

CC  Okay,  Ron.     Thank  you. 

And  it's  sad  to  shut  off  the  SIM  bay,  it's  operated 
so  tremendously  in  this  mission. 


12  11  30  11    CMP  SIM  bay  has  been  outstanding. 

12  11  38  20    CMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  coming  up  on  2  hours  here. 

How  about  the  logic  sequence  check? 

CC  We're  standing  by. 

IP  11   ?8  31    CMP  Okay,  SECS  LOGIC,  two  of  them  are  CLOSED;  SECS  ARM, 

^'^  ^    ^  two  are  CLOSED;  ELS  CSM  SEP,  BAT  A,  BAT  B  are 

CLOSED.     Okay,  ELS  LOGIC  is  ON;  ELS  AUTO  is  OH. 

Okay,  Houston,  you  all  set  for  the  SECS  LOGIC? 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

12  11  39  12    CMP  Okay,  number  1  is  ON.     SECS  LOGIC  number  2  is  ON. 


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CC  America,  we're  GO  for  PYRO  AEI'I. 

12  11  39  33    CMP  Okay,  that  sounds  good.     We're  go  for  PYRO  ARM. 

Okay,  SECS  LOGIC  number  2  is  coming  OFF;  SECS  LOGIC 
number  1  is  OFF.     AEM  BAT  B  is  OPEN;  ARM  BAT  A  is 
OPEN;  ELS  LOGIC  is  OFF;  ELS  is  to  MANUAL.  Okay, 
the  old  SEP  breakers  are  OPEN, 

CC  Roger.     God  show,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  we've  got  her. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston;  this  is  America.    We  are  stowed 

for  reentry. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  And,  Bob,  as  a  note  of  interest,  the  spacecraft 

is  dry.     Both  the  forward  hatch,  the  tunnel,  and 
the  tunnel  hatch. 

12  11  k3  2h    CC  Roger.     We  got  that. 

12  11  55  35    CMP  Okay,  Houston,  this  is  America.     We'll  whip  into 

a  P52  here. 

CC  Roger.     We're  watching  it. 

12  11  56  50    CMP  There  goes  the  Earth.     Man,  it  was  just  a  sliver. 

CMP  Houston,  you'd  be  happy  to  know  that  the  Moon, 

now,  has  finally  gotten  back  to  its  normal  size 
for  us . 

CC  Roger. 

12  12  01  07    CMP  Well,  that's  not  5  balls,  but  that's  not  a  bad 

way  to  end,  I  guess.    You  know,  I  never  noticed 
it  before,  but  I'm  looking  next  to  the  -  to  the 
Earth,  right  now.     And,  of  co\irse,  that  makes  it 
a  kind  of  bluish  reflection  Inside  the  -  the 
sextant,  and  you  can't  see  the  reticle  brightness 
at  all.     It  just  -  you  know,  it  just  comes  through 
as  a  black  -  black  line  in  there.    And  there  are 
two  lines.     You  know,  I've  got  two  -  One  of  them 
must  be  -  there  are  two  -  two  reticles  -  no,  there 
are  two  reticles.     One's  in  focus,  but  the  other 
one  isn't. 


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CC  Roger,  Ron.     We  can  accept  the  NOUK  05. 

12  12  01  52    CMP  (Laiighter)     Okay.     There  we  go.     There's  HOUN  93. 

CC  Then  you  can  torque  those,  Ron. 

CMP  Okay,  we'll  torque  at  i+5  -  i+2:15. 

CMP  Okay,  Houston.    We're  going  to  maneuver  to  the 
horizon  check  attitude  now. 

12  12  03  06    CC  Roger,  Ron. 

CDR  Houston,  America.     I'll  go  OMNI  Delta  now. 

CC  Roger.     We  concur. 

CMP  Got  the  commander's  ALARI-l. 

CC  Roger.  Copy. 

12  12  09  36    CDR  Houston,  America.     The  horizon  star  check  is  GO. 

12  12  09  hi    CC  Roger.     Good  word. 


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12  12  22  h8    CMP  Okay,  EMS  FUNCTION  is  OFF.  and  two  of  them  are 

CLOSED  -  EMS  circuit  breakers  are  CLOSED.  EMS 
is  in  STANDBY.    TEST  1.     Okay;  and  wait  5  seconds. 

12  12  23  11    CMP  Okay,  it's  10  seconds.    Looks  good  -  indicator 

light.    This  one.    That  always  comes  on  on  TEST  1, 
I  don't  know  -  .05  0  light  always  comes  on  TEST  1. 
Okay?    And  still  got  two  of  them  left.     Let's  try 
number  2,  I  guess.    Never  pass  up  a  gas  station, 
if  you  really  need  it.     Okay,  TEST  2. 

12  12  2k  08    CMP  Okay,  it's  out. 

CMP  Okay?    There  we  go  - 

12  12  2h  30    CMP  MARK  it. 

12  12  2h  ho     CMP  MARK  it.     Okay,  lO-second  timer  works.  Always 

comes  out. 

CMP  Okay,  we  got  58,  is  that  in  there?    Okay;  wait 

a  minute.     Okay,  here  we  go.     There  goes  zip. 
TESTS  are  going  down.    Stops  at  9gs  going  across, 
counting  down. 

12  12  25  1+3    CMP  MARK  it.     Okay,  it  stopped  at  0.0.     Stopped  right 

at  the  old  black  line  there.     That's  good.  Okay, 
.05  G  light  on.     Okay,  10  seconds  later  or  so, 
here  we  go . 

12  12  26  10     CMP  Yes,  it's  going  out.     It  stopped  at  0-2.  It 

advanced  10  seconds  and  the  light  came  on.  Okay; 
let's  see,  we  can  go  to  3TK.     Hey,  Houston,  let 
me  doublecheck  on  this.    The  .05  G  light  was  on, 
in  EMS  TEST  1,  when  I  went  to  NORMAL.     And  it 
seems  to  me  like  that's  normal  but  it  may  not  be. 
Could  we  check  on  that  for  sure. 

CC  Okay,  we're  checking  on  that. 

CMP  Can  -  press  on  with  the  activation  here. 


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12  12  27  25    CDR  Houston,  we're  pressing  on  with  the  primary  water 

evap  activation  at  this  time. 

CC  Stand  "by  1.     It's  affirmative  -  to  Ron  -  that  he 

can  press  on  with  EMS  jun  -  TEST. 

CMP  Okay;  thahk  you  much. 

CC  And  to  Gene,  on  those  water  boilers,  that's 

affirmative. 

CDR  Okay;  fine. 

12  12  27  kg    CMP  Okay,  nonexit  pattern,  that's  what  we  want.  See 

the  line  on  37K.  Okay;  we  go  to  RMGE  SET  -  Flick! 
There  it  goes,  up  to  the  top.  Okay,  we're  in  RMGE 
SET,  and  we'll  stand  by  now. 

12  12  28  25    CDR  Houston,  we're  going  to  activate  the  secondary. 

CC  You  are  GO  on  the  secondary. 

CDR  Okay . 

CC  Okay,  Ron,  as  you're  going  through  the  test,  just 

a  word  on  that  EMS  TEST  1.     It  is  not  normal  for 
the  zero  -  .05  G  light  to  be  on  in  ENTRY  TEST 
mode  1.     It  is  probably  a  result  of  that  drifting 
accelerometer .     It's  -  we'll  have  to  just  wait 
and  see  what  the  rest  of  the  test  looks  like. 

CMP  Okay;  the  rest  of  the  test  was  GO. 

CC  Okay.     Again,  it's  probably  the  result  of  that 

drifting  accelerometer,  and  possibly  under  the 
high-g  load  of  entry,  it  will  be  no  problem  at 
all.     It's  all  probably  in  the  -  drifting  in  the  - 
in  the  mud. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine. 

CC  And,  America,  if  you  can  give  us  ACCEPT,  we've 

got  a  vector  for  you. 


12  12  29  hh  CMP 


Okay;  you  have  ACCEPT. 


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12  12  30  l8    CDR  Okay,  Houston;  both  evaporators  are  up. 

CMP  Well,  I  just  - 

12  12  31  22    CDR  Hello,  Houston;  on  the  preheat,  we've  got  5  Charlie, 

at  38. 

CO  We  copy  that.    And  we're  running  the  cal  curve. 

CDR  And  we've  got  6  -  Okay,  and  we've  got  6  Bravo, 

at  385- 

CC  America,  the  computer  is  yours . 

12  12  32  02    CMP  Okay,  we're  going  to  BLOCK. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We  looked  through  the  cal  curve, 

and  we  recommend  no  preheat  on  the  RCS . 

CMP  Roger,  Houston.     I  understand.     No  RCS  preheat  - 

command  module  RCS  preheat. 

CC  That's  affirmative. 

12  12  35  13    CC  America,  Houston.    Somebody  standing  "by  on  the  VHF? 

We'd  like  to  get  the  VHF  voice  check  out  of  the 
way,  if  that's  possible. 

CDR  Okay;  go  ahead. 

CC  Standby.    We'll  reconfigure  here. 

12  12  36  U5     CC  America,  Houston.     We'd  like  to  verify  that  the 

left  antenna  is  selected,  and  that  we  are  in  VHF 
SIMPLEX  Alfa. 

CC  America,  Houston.    America,  Houston. 

CMP 


CC 


I'll  get  them  on  S-band.  Houston,  this  is  America. 
Go'  ahead  on  S-band. 

Roger.     Did  you  get  my  last  call?    We'd  like  to 
verify,  in  left  antenna,  and  in  SIMPLEX  Alfa?  And 
we'll  give  you  VHF  check  here  shortly. 


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CMP  Affirmative.    Maybe  that  was  fe edth rough ,  hut  we 

were  on  -  Jack  was  on  -  VHF,  called  you  hack  on 
VHF.    Must  have  been  S-band  feedthrough,  though. 
But  verified;  we're  antenna  left  and  VHF  SIMPLEX 
Alfa. 

CC  Roger,  Ron,  and  we  are  going  to  simul.     I  under- 

stand Jack  is  reading  us  on  the  VHF. 

CMP  Yes,  that's  affirm.    And  he  was  retransmitting  on 

VHF;  evidently,  you  weren't  reading  our  VHF. 

CC  Roger,     It's  normal  to  have  VHF  up-link  prior  to 

receiving  VHF  down-link.    We're  satisfied  here. 

CMP  Okay.    Mighty  fine. 

12  12  39  20    CC  And,  Ron,  just  for  clarification,  we  will  make 

another  VHF  check  when  you  get  a  little  c].oser,  so 
we  can  get  a  down-link  signal  on  you. 

CMP  Oh,  okay,  real  well. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston.    We  have  a  GO  on  the  pyro  bats, 

they're  both  37,  we're  picking  the  checklist  up 
on  the  top  of  1-6 . 

CC  Roger.     We  understand. 

12  12  1+0  50    CMP  Okay.     On  Panel  8.     Okay,  DIRECT  ULLAGE  are  OPEN. 

COMMAND  MODULE  HEATERS  are  OPEN.     Okay,  DOCKING 
PROBES  are  OPEK  -  Whoops,  stand  by,  stand  by  -  let's 
CLOSE  the  RCS  LOGIC,  then.     RCS  LOGIC  -  MAIN  A, 
MAIN  B  are  going  CLOSED.     Okay,  DOCKING  PROBES  are 
OPEN;  SPS  PITCH  -  and  YAW  -  we'll  open  two  more  - 
that  leaves  four  of  them  OPEK;  three  FLOAT  BAGS  are 
OPEN;  and  SECS,  ARM  are  OPEN;  EDS  DATs  are  OPEK; 
ELS  CSM  SEPs  are  OPEN;  POSTLANDING  VENT  is  OPEN, 
Okay,  they're  all  -  all  the  others  are  CLOSED. 

CMP  GDC  seems  pretty  good,  let's  recheck  it  here.  Okay, 

GDC  is  realigned. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  if  you're  ready,  we're  going  to  pick 

up  the  command  module  RCS  activation. 


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CC  Roger.    We're  standing  "by. 

12  12  U2  57    CMP  Okay,  SECS  ARM  circuit  breaJcers,  two  of  them,  are 

going  CLOSED.     Okay,  Houston,  ready  for  the 
LOGIC  ARM. 

CC  You're  GO  for  LOGIC. 

12  12  U3  08    CMP  Okay.    LOGIC  1,  LOGIC  2. 

CC  America,  you're  GO  for  PYRO  ARM. 

12  12  U3  25    CMP  Okay,  GO  for  PYRO  ARM.    PYRO  ARM  A,  PYRO  ARM  B. 

CMP  Okay, 

CDR  Okay,  Houston,  coming  up  on  the  coimnand  module 
RCS  pressure.    3,  2,  1  - 

12  12  U3  1+U    CDR  MARK  it.     And  we  got  it. 

CMP  Boy,  you  sure  can  hear  it  flow  in  somewhere. 

CC  America,  Houston.    We've  got  two  good  rings. 

CDR  Very  good,  Houston;  they're  looking  good  on  board. 

12  12  kk  23    CMP  Okay;  SAFE  the  PYROs . 

CC  Okay,  America;  Houston.     I've  got  a  short  update 

on  your  Entry  Checklist. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

rr  Over  on  page  2-h  of  the  Entry  Checklist,  middle  of 

?re  page!  we  would  like  to  delete,  "IMS  MODE  to 
HOmL"  at  that  point.     "EMS  MODE  to  NORMAL,"  de- 
lete     We'd  like  to  move  it  over  on  the  2-5  at 
0.05*0  time.    Put  "EMS  MODE  -  NORMAL." 

Okay;  we'll  get  the  EMS  NORMAL  at  0.05  G. 

Roeer.    We  have  no  update  on  the  entry  pad.  You 
are  nominal  at  this  time.     I  do  have  your  weather 
information  and  your  ship  recovery  call  signs. 
Over. 


CDR 
CC 


Tape  201/6 


CDR  Okay,  Bob.    Why  don't  you  go  ahead? 

CC  Okay;  generally,  the  weather  is  good.  It's 

3000  foot,  scattered,  10-miles  visibility.  Wind 
is  130  at  10;  vave  heights,  2  to  3  feet.  Altim- 
eter, 299^4.     The  altimeter  299^  will  give  you  a 
minus  IT-f oot  DELTA-H  which  means ,  Gene ,  that  when 
the  altimeter  says  zero,  you'll  still  be  17  feet 
in  the  air.     The  closest  recovery  forces,  the  prime 
recovery  ship  is  the  Tico,  call  sign  "Tico." 
Closest  recovery  will  be  -  aircraft  will  be  a  heli- 
copter, call  sign  "Recovery,"  and  a  backup  will  be 
call  sign  "Swim,"  and  they'll  be  on  scene  at  splash. 
In  case  of  a  constant-g  entry  for  any  reason,  the 
aircraft  call  sign  is  Samoa.     Rescue  1  will  be 
downrange  and  in  the  vicinity  of  the  constant-g 
point.  Over. 

CDR  Okay,  we  got  Tico.     And  the  prime  recovery  ship  - 

prime  chopper  -  is  Recovery.     The  backup  is  Swim, 
and  we've  got  Rescue  1  Samoa,  downrange. 

CC  I  guess  that's  uprange ,  depending  on  how  you  look 

at  it ,  Gene . 

CDR  (Laughter)  Okay. 

MCC  Geno,  with  weather  like  that,  even  a  Navy  captain 

like  you  should  make  a  good  landing. 

CDR  We'll  hang  in  there,  T.  P.     You  know  nobody  likes 

a  pitching  deck,  not  even  a  Navy  captain. 

CC  Roger. 

12  12  k8  09    CDR  Houston,  we'll  be  back  with  you  and  pick  it 

up  at  1*5 . 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  America,  Houston.     We'll  do  our  best  to  put  it  all 

together  and  come  right  down  the  stack,  like  you 
got  me . 


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CC  America,  Houston.    We  would  like  Jack  to  give  us 

a  call  on  VHF  Alfa.    We  are  reading  good  signal 
strength  down-link  at  this  time,  and  we'd  like  _ 
to  get  a  signal  strength  up-link  with  him  at  this 
time,  also.     Check,  please. 

LMP  Okay,  this  is  the  MP  on  VHF.    How  do  you  read? 

1,  2,  3,  1+,  3,  2,  1.  Over. 

CC  Roger,  LMP.     You're  coming  through  a  little  hit 

scratchy  hut  sounds  -  we  can  read  you.  You're 
sounding  good.    How  me  on  VHF? 

LMP  You're  loud  and  clear.  Boh.     Loud  and  clear. 

CC  Okay;  good  VHF  check. 

12  12  52  31    CC  America,  Houston. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

CC  Just  a  note  of  amplification  on  our  change  on  2-5 

moving  the  EMS  MODE  NORMAL  at   .05  G  time.     If  the 
.05  G  light  does  not  come  on  at  .05  G  time  when  you 
go  to  NORMAL  there,  plus  3  seconds,  go  to  the 
normal  backup  procedures  to  start  the  EMS. 

CMP  Okay;  I  understand  that.  Bob.     Thank  you. 

CC  Okay,  Ron;  Just  a  little  reminder. 

CMP  Mighty  fine. 

12  12  53  23    LMP  TAPE  RECORDER  is  REWIND. 

12  12  5U  51    CMP  Okay,  we're  in  RAIIGE  SET.    Okay,  crank  in  lOUU.p- 

CMP  Okay,  I0UU.9.     Okay,  inertial  velocity,  set. 

Slew  to  36,172. 

1?  T2  S6  13    CMP  Okay,  we  got  36,172.    Set.     Okay,  velocity  at 

12  12  5b  13    LMt  y,^  _  ^B^^^  ^^^^^  _  ^^^^^  STANDBY.  Okay? 

FDAI  SOURCE  to  ATT  SET.     ATT  SET  to  GDC.     EMS  ROLL 
is  ON.    Okay,  turning  the  old  YAW.    And  it's 
1+5  degrees  to  the  right.    And  1+5  degrees  to  the 
left.     Okay;  RSI  is  zero.    EMS  ROLL  is  OFF.  Okay, 
let's  align  the  old  GDC  again. 


Tape  201/8 


CDR 

CC 

12  12  58  05  CMP 

12  12  58  1+5  CDR 
12  12  58  1+9  CMP 


CDR 

CC 

CMP 

CDR 

CC 
CMP 

12  13  01  1+3  CMP 


Houston,  America.  The  EMS  is  initialized;  the  RSI 
is  aligned;  and  we're  ready  to  pick  up  the  command 
module  RCS  checks . 

Roger.    We're  standing  by.  Gene. 

Okay;  GDC  is  aligned  to  the  IMU.     Okay?  Verify 
A/C  ROLL  is  OFF.     RCS  LOGIC,  two  circuit  breakers 
are  CLOSED.     Okay,  SCS.     MINIMUM  IMPULSE. 

Okay,  Houston,  we're  going  to  transfer  the  command 
module , 

Okay.    Just  a  little  bitty  blunk.    Okay,  the  ring  1 
is  going  OFF.    Okay;  we're  operating  on  ring  2. 
Ring  2  is  all  MAIN  B.  .You  can  hear  it  go  click, 
click.     Click,  click,  okay.     (Laughter)     Happy  with 
ring  2.    Okay,  1  is  going  up  to  ON;  2  is  coming  OFF. 
Okay,  ring  1  is  all  MAIN  A.    Okay.    Yes,  you  can 
see  it,  too,  can't  you?    Okay,  it  works.  Okay, 
ring  2  is  going  back  to  MAIN  B.     1  is  MAIN  A; 
ring  2  is  MAIN  B.     Okay?     Okay.     Okay,  we  still 
got  control  of  the  service  module. 

Okay,  Houston,  the  RCS  check  looks  good  on  board. 

Roger,  America;  and  it  looked  great  down  here. 

CMC  in  AUTO.     Yes,  clock's  running  to  RRT .  Yes, 
it  is . 

Okay,  Houston;  America.    We're  on  top  of  2-2. 
We're  going  to  stand  by  for  30  minutes. 

Roger.     We're  following  you  right  on  the  line. 


Twenty  minutes  to  horizon  check  time.     Okay,  I'll 
get  back  into  -  what  Is  it  -  268?    That's  good. 
Yes. 


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12  13  02  52    CMP  Okay,  29  seconds  until  .05  G,  V^^^^  is  02:09- 

Drogue,  07:39-    Okay.    And  no  .05  0  light,  p6U  is 
running.    We'll  go  to  BACKUP,  VHF  RAUGING  at  .05  G 
plus  3  seconds.    Yes.    We'll  get  the  NORMAL  first, 
that's  the  main  thing;  these  things  can  come  later. 
And  then  we'll  get  EMS  ROLL  on  .05  G-    Yes,  let  s 
see,  the  third  one  is  really  not  going  to  - 

12  13  OU  07    CMP  Yes,  these  are  plus  3  seconds  -  -05  G  time  is 

12  ^^^^  ^'  29  3^^o„^3  pi^3  3  _  plus  5  -  and  29  plus  5-  The 

way  I  understand  it,  anyhow,  from  what  the  ground 
said,  is  that  the  .05  G  light  will  probably  come 
on  as  soon  as  you  go  to  NORMAL,  anyhow.    Yes.  Yes. 

Slide  sideways  -  you  can  just  slide  your  foot  in 
and  out  of  the  thing. 

I  wonder  what  6-1/2  g's  is  going  to  feel  like?  _ 
That  half  a  g  on  TEI  (laughter)  felt  like  I  was  m 
the  back  of  the  couch. 

12  13  05  57    CMP  Thirty-three  minutes.    Yes,  it  will.    Yes,  it's 

12  1^        ^'  ^^^^  is  _  -begin  blackout?    And  -  Okay. 

Blackout  17  seconds.    Okay.     That 's  coram  blackout , 

by  the  way.  (Laughter) 

CMP  Okay,  getting  ready  for  the  BUS  TIEs. 

12  13  06  56    CDR  Okay,  Houston,  BUS  TIEs  are  coming  ON. 

CC  Roger,  America. 

A/C  is  ON  and  verified,  and  B/C  is  ON  and  verified. 

America,  Houston.    The  batteries  are  on  line,  and 
they  look  good  to  us . 


CMP 
CMP 


CDR 
CC 


12  13  07  31    LMP  Okay,  and  TAPE  RECORDER'S  ON  here. 

CMP  Okay . 

12  13  08  U3    CMP  Okay.    Let's  start  sep  -  sep  checklist  here. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    We're  pressing  ahead  here,  about 

5  minutes  early. 


CC 


Roger. 


Tape  201/10 

12  13  08  51    CMP  Okay.    ELS  CSM  SEP,  BAT  A.     BAT  B  -  CLOSED.  Yes. 

Okay.     I'll  BYPASS  the  old  primary  RADIATORS.  Okay, 
REPRESS  PACKAGE  valves  going  ON  -  0-N.    Okay.  We'll 
cut  off  the  service  module's  supply  of  oxygen. 
Okay.     SURGE  TAUK  is  verified  ON.    Okay.  PRESSURE 
RELIEF  valves  are  verified  NORMAL.     Okay.  We're 
verified  in  RCS  COMMAND.    Okay,  SECONDARY  FUEL  is 
As,  Bs,  Cs,  and  Ds .     All  OPEN.     VHF  is  off.  HIGH 
GAIN. 

LMP  Houston,  loads  appear  to  "be  balanced  on  main  A, 

main  B,  fuel  cell. 

CC  Roger,  Jack.    We  copy  that. 

CMP  Okay.    Don't  see  anything  yet. 

12  13  11  33    CDR  Houston,  step  5  on  2-2  is  complete. 

CO  Roger,  America. 

CDR  Or  parentheses  5;  I  guess  it  is. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  America,  Houston.    You  may  be  interested.  We've 

just  taken  another  look  at  your  last  batch  of  data, 
and  it  confirms  your  pad.     You  are  absolutely 
nominal  -  right  on  the  pad. 

CDR  That's  good  news,  Robert.    Thank  you. 

CMP  Outstanding. 

CC  We  aim  to  please. 

CDR  Okay,  and  we're  going  to  keep  it  nominal. 

12  13  18  22    CMP  That's  okay.    We'll  go  in  a  little  bit  early, 

12  13  19  19    CMP  Yes,  they  look  pretty  good.    Hey,  you  can  go  ahead 

and  go  on  through  there  and  then  I'll  -  RATE  COM- 
MAND.    DEADBAND,  MIN;  V  RATE  to  LOW  -  Okay,  I  have 
you  -  RATE  to  HIGH  -  Yes,  that's  better  -  DEADBAND 
MINi  RATE  to  HIGH.     SCS.     Qh,  1  minute.     Okay.  I 
doubt  if  we'll  see  it  -  we  might,  though. 


Tape  201/11 


CMP 


CMP 


Think  you  will?  Yes,  I  don't  know  (laughter).  I've 
got  the  Sun  shining  right  in  my  left  window  here. 


so  - 


I  don't  see  anything.  Do  you  see  anything.  Jack? 
(Laughter)     I  don't  either.     Did  it? 


CMP  Yes,  see  I  got  too  much  shining  in  -  light  -  sun 

shining  in  on  there  -  glaring  on  the  window.  That's 
good,  as  long  as  it's  there,  somewhere.     Oh,  I  see 
it!    It's  off  to  the  left!    Oh,  it's  out  the  left 
window  (laughter).    Okay,  Yes.    That's  a  dark 
horizon,  though. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.    We've  got  the  horizon,  now.  We're 

going  out  of  plane,  now. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Yes  -  see  -  see  -  You  can  see  it  hetter  when  you're 

out  of  plane.    We  must  he  Just  seeing  the  horn. 
Yes,  it's  the  airglow,  hut  see  that's  the  horn 
that's  been  -  we've  been  seeing  all  the  time  that's 
off  to  our  left . 

12  13  22  52    CMP  Yes,  verify  BYPASS. 

CMP  Okay,  and  stand  by.    Hey,  Jack,  when  I  yaw  down 

here,  can  you  get  a  picture? 

12  1?  21  l6'   CMP  Okay,  BMAGs ,  ATT  l/RATE  2;  RATE  COMt^AND;  SOS. 

DEADBAUD  MIN;  RATE  to  HIGH.     COMMAND  MODULE  RCS 
LOGIC  is  ON.     SECS  LOGIC  verified  OH.     Okay.  Here 
come  the  pyros  -  PYRO  A,  PYRO  B. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston.     On  my  mark  -  I'm  going  to  hit  the 

CM/SM  SEP. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  3,  2,  1  - 

12  13  23  50    CDR  MARK. 

CDR  We  got  it. 


Tape  201/12 


CMP  Oh,  ho!    Did  we  get  it!     That  thing  really  hangs, 

doesn't  it? 

CDR  Looks  like  we  got  a  good  separation,  Houston. 

CC  Roger. 

CMP  Okay;  MINIMUM  IMPULSE.     RATE  2. 

CC  We're  going  to  be  handing  over  sites  in  1  minute. 

There'll  he  a  slight  break  of  comm  here. 

CMP  Okay . 

CC  We'd  like  you  to  go  to  OMNI  Charlie. 

12  13  2h  21    CMP  OMNI  Charlie. 

CMP  Okay.    We're  yawing  back  to  zero. 

CMP  (Laughter)     We've  got  junk  all  over  the  place 

(laughter).     Okay,  yes,  wait  a  minute.     I'm  going 
to  take  a  look  at  the  horizon  here  first.  ENTRY; 
STANDBY;  36  ITO  IQi+i*.     Okay.     We're  MINIMUM  II-IPULSE , 
RATE  2,  SCS,  DIRECTS  are  ON;  AC,  DC. 

CMP  Yes,  you  can  go  ahead.     I'm  SCS,  anyhow.  It 

will  be. 

.  CMP  You  know  the  sound  of  the  jet  firing  is  a  lot 

louder  than  what  we  usually  have  the  simulator 
set  for. 

CMP  Okay.    We're  back  to  the  dark  horizon  again,  but 

we'll  pitch  her  on  down.    On?     Okay.     There  you  go. 
Got  everything  up. 

12  13  27  5^    CMP  Okay.     Okay,  1+153  miles  to  go.    Velocity  is 

31,253  feet  per  second,  increasing. 

12  13  28  23    CDR  Okay,  Houston.     We're  at  63,  and  we're  just  stand- 

ing by  for  .05  G. 

CC  Roger,  America.     You're  looking  great.    We've  got 

a  TV  picture  of  the  weather  in  the  recovery  area, 
and  the  ship  Ticonderoga,  and  it's  looking  great. 


Tape  201/13 


CMP  Probably  warraup  afterwhile  a  bit.    Well,  this 

thing  kind  of  wants  to  -  wants  to  yaw  left  all  the 
time . 

CC  America,  at  9  minutes  prior  to  entry  interface 

here,  you're  looking  great  down  here. 

CDR  Okay,  Bob.    We're  looking  good  on  board  and  stand- 

ing by  for  .05  G. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

CMP  (Laughter) 

12  13  30  1+5    LMP  Houston,  be  advised  that  hydrogen  tanks  1  and  2 

still  seem  to  be  with  us.    At  least  I  get  gage 
readings  -  plus  200  psi . 

CC  Roger.    We'll  run  that  one  through  EECOM. 

CMP  (Laughter) 

12  13  31  11    CMP  Well,  that'll  save  you  -  save  the  5/5  for  a  minute. 

DIRECTS  are  MAIN  A  and  MAIN  B?    Both  controllers 
are  on?    Think  they  got  ACl.    Should  be  153,  I 
think,  isn't  it?    Here  it  is,  right  here.  Yes, 
no  more  eating  upside  down.     I  was  Just  getting 
used  to  that.     It's  a  lot  of  fun.    Getting  use 
to  it?    I  was  use  to  it  after  the  second  day  - 
first  day.    You  know  the  -  the  -  it  wants  to  trim 
itself i  pitch  up  too.    I  got  to  keep  blapping  the 
right  yaw  -  and  I  got  to  keep  pitching  down,  to 
make  it  go  down.    See  the  -  the  rate  just  decreases, 

12  13  32  23    CMP  Two  minutes  until  moonset.     I  don't  even  see  a 

Moon.    There  it  is  up  there.     Can  you  see  it. 
Jack?     It's  out  of  window  3.     It  should  be  off 
to  your  right.     You  might  be  able  to  see  it. 
That's  the  way  the  Moon  looked  about  13  -  1^  days 
ago,  isn't  it?    Small  one  like  that. 

CMP  Try  the  pressures  on  both  rings?    They  still  okay? 

Okay. 


12  13  33  U2  CMP 


Five  minutes  to  RET. 


Tape  201/lU 


CMP  30kil6  on  n^y  card.    What  -  Yes,  it's  got  a  little 

bit  of  a  cross  -  coupling  on  it.    We  might  "be 
picking  up  C-55  -  might  be  picking  up  a  few  rates, 
anyhow.    Probably  not  yet.    Usually  about  59- 

12  13  35  00    R-1  ...    Loud  and  clear,  now.    nothing  coining  through 

on  that  transmitter. 

30  •  «  • 

SC  ...  disappear. 

CMP  Couldn't  see  a  star  out  there  if  you  had  to. 

There's  all  kinds  of  little  white  particles  float- 
ing around  out  there  from  the  jets . 

CMP  I've  lost  the  ...  out  the  window. 

R-1  Four  ...  you're  coming  through  now  on  the  18, 

loud  and  clear. 

R-2  Roger.     Stand  by. 

CMP  Houston,  America.     Do  you  still  read? 

CC  Check,  Houston.     Read  you  loud  and  clear.  We're 

going  out  through  ARIA. 

CMP  Okay . 

CDR  And,  Houston,  mode  set  was  on  time. 

CC  Roger. 

CDR  And  we're  coming  up  on  2  minutes  from  RRT ,  and 

we're  going  for  it. 

CC  Roger,  America.    You're  looking  great. 

CMP  There's  the  horizon.     Got  the  horizon,  now. 

12  13  37  IT    CMP  ...    We're  GO  to  CM. 

12  13  37  26    CMP  Pressure's  looking  good.    We  got  RATE  COMMAND  to 

go  yet.     And  I'll  get  that?     RATE  2  on  the  Br4AGs . 

CMP  Okay.    You  got  a  minute,     i+00,000  feet. 


Tape  201/15 


LMP  ...  really  moving,  isn't  it. 

CMP  Look  at  that  ...  go  Tay . 

LMP  Okay.     Needle's  off  the  peg  now.     It's  looking 

good. 

CMP  Jack,  can  you  take  a  picture  of  that,  too?    Get  a 

picture  of  that  horizon  -  - 

CDR  Is  that  pointing  at  the  horizon? 

CMP  Okay.    Ho.    That's  all  right;  I'll  get  it.  That's 

all  right;  I'm  sorry. 

12  13  38  32    CDR  Houston,  we're  5  seconds  from  RRT . 

CC  Roger,  America. 

12  13  38  kO    cm  RRT. 

CMP  Okay.     You  want  to  go  to  RATE  COMMAHD? 

CMP  Okay.     .05  G  is  29- 

CDR  We  have  a  . . . 

12  13  1+2  52    CMP  Roll  right  50  -  still  at  3  g's. 

.  CDR  Okay. 

CMP  ...    Okay.     3  gs .    Got  a  potential  of  130  -  got  a 
130  range . 

CMP  Looking  good  -  3  g's.     Right  on. 

CDR  Okay.    Roll  right  hO , 

12  13  k3  13    CMP  Okay,  right  UO . 

CDR  Okay,  right  - 

CMP  Right  U5. 

CDR  Okay  -  - 


Tape  201/16 


CMP  Okay,  the  g  is  good  -  move  left  about  2.8. 

CDR  Okay  -  - 

CMP  There's  reverse.    Okay.     Over  the  top. 

12  13  ^3  30    CMP  Okay.     It's  still  about  2.9  g's.    Took  some  more 

pieces  off  the  outside  of  the  spacecraft.  Hey, 
it  didn't  stay  on  there  very  long.  Okay. 

CMP  Up  . . .    About  2.8  g's  here.    Got  a  potential  of 

65,  65.     8,000  feet  a  second. 

CMP  That's  about  hO  -  that's  right.    Yes,  that's  right 

Thirty  feet. 

CDR  Okay,  roll. 

CMP  Okay.     ...  3.1  g's.     Okay.    There  she  goes  over 

the  -  that  ought  to  relax  the  g's  a  little  bit. 
Hey,  that's  good  -  beautiful  computer. 

12  13  hk  21    CMP  Okay,  about  3.1  g's.    We're  about  I+5OO  feet  a 

second.     ...  roll,  22  miles  -  HOOO  feet  a  second, 
zero  plus  88  degrees.    Okay.    That's  good.  Okay, 
looking  good.     Okay.    We  ought  to  be  in  there. 
Roll  left,  okay  -  about  -  about  2.2  g's.  Okay. 
It  feels  like  there's  a  mag  around  here.  Okay. 
Okay.    Roll  that  baby  -  still  good.     Okay.     2  g's. 
Steam  pressure's  pegged  -  Okay.    Is  that  on  time? 
Pressure's  up  39  -  okay.    Okay,  first  ...  67.  ... 
at  67.     Put  1.8,  it  says,  okay.     Call  it  out. 

CDR  Hello,  Houston.    This  is  America.    We're  shoving  . 

1 . 8  short . 

12  13  1+5  h2    CMP  ARM  the  PYROs .     CABIN  PRESSURE  to  BOOST. 

CDR  This  is  America.    We're  showing  1.8  miles  short  - 

17.86  by  minus  167.5- 

12  13  U5  51    CMP  They're  ARMed.     We're  stable.     Looking  good.  Com- 

ing down  like  a  son-of-a-buck .    Man,  oh,  man! 
Okay,  there's  35K.     Stand  by  for  ELS  LOGIC,  right? 
Okay?    There  goes  all  the  paper  off  the  spacecraft 
Okay,  that's  30K.    ELS  to  AUTO  -  LOGIC  -  and  then 
AUTO.     Okay,  stand  by  for  the  apex.     And  it  bimips . 
Okay,  there  we  go! 


Tape  201/17 


12  13  k6  22    CMP  There  goes  the  drogues.    Okay,  back  them  up.  Hey, 

come  here,  Jack.  What?  Okay  ...  to  go.  Man,  oh, 
man!     -  Hey,  it  really  vibrates!  Okay. 

CDR  Okay,  Houston;  America  in  the  blind  -  ve  got  the 

mains  -  we  got  the  drogues ,  we  got  the  drogues . 
Okay,  there's  12,  13K.     12K  -  12K. 

12  13  l+T  l6    CDR  Mains  at  IIK.    Mains  ...  - 

LMP  There's  the  mains.     Okay.    They're  reefing. 

CDR  Bearing  350. 

CDR  Through  8000  feet. 

CDR  . . .  about  1  mile  short . 

CDR  Okay,  Recovery,  Houston;  America.    We've  got  three 
good  mains;  we're  at  65OO  feet. 

R-1  Zero,  zero  at  3-5.    Apollo  IT,  this  is  Recovery. 

Good  morning. 

CDR  Hello,  Recovery;  it's  a  beautiful  day!    We're  out 

of  610 ;  we've  got  three  good  mains. 

R-1  This  is  Recovery.    Have  a  visual  on  you,  and 

they're  blooming  nicely. 

CDR  Outstanding!    And  all  is  well  on  board,  all  is 

well  on  board. 

R-1  Wonderful. 

CDR  You  sound  good  down  there. 

R-1  Waiting  for  you. 

R-1  One  hundred,  zero,  zero.    Our  positive,  28O  at  11. 

R-1  Visual,  bearing  2^3. 

12  13  1+9  35    CDR  Hello,  Recovery,    This  Is  America.    We're  out  of 

1+000  feet  now,  and  all  is  well. 


Tape  201/18 


R-1  . . .  Tico. 

CDR  Go  ahead. 

R-1  Any  report  on  computer  read-outs ,  Over? 

CDR  Hot  yet. 

R-1  ...  standing  "by  ...  feet  up. 

CDR  ...  Houston,  DSKY  shows  minus  1.3.     Lat  is 

minus  17.88;  long  is  minus  l66.ll. 

12  13  50  h6    CDR  Hello,  Recovery;  America,  is  through  2000  feet. 

R-1  Recovery,  Roger. 

P-1  This  is  Photo.     ...  the  command  module  as  it  de- 

scends .    Their  three  main  parachutes  are  fully 
deployed, 

CDR  America's  out  of  1500  feet. 

P-1  The  parachutes  are  fully  deployed.     The  command 

module  is  descending,  and  Photo  is  circling  as 
it  descends . 

CDR  And  America  is  now  out  of  800  feet. 

■  P-1  Command  module  is  descending,  stand  by  for 

splashdown. 

CDR  America's  at  300  feet. 

12  13  52  00    P-1  SPLASH. 

12  13  52  01    CDR  MARK. 


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